| 00:00.05 | smw | jhutchins, in other words. "it supports n, but not 5ghz" |
| 00:00.12 | smw | didn't know this was even possible |
| 00:00.37 | Mongo44 | Yes for some reason I did not have to modify my sources. |
| 00:00.41 | petn-randall | smw: 5 GHz is optional in the 802.11n spec. |
| 00:00.42 | jhutchins | smw: That doesn't sound quite right. |
| 00:00.56 | smw | jhutchins, but, an intel rep says so... |
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| 00:01.18 | smw | jhutchins, it doesn't sound right to me either. I am pissed |
| 00:01.28 | smw | jhutchins, thanks for the help though :-) |
| 00:02.15 | petn-randall | Quoting WP: "This setup assumes that all the 802.11n clients are 5 GHz capable, which isn't a requirement of the standard." |
| 00:02.31 | themill | Mongo44: that's only half the command btw |
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| 00:02.54 | smw | petn-randall, oh, I can certainly imagine it not being a requirement of the standard |
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| 00:03.04 | smw | petn-randall, I still didn't know anyone made them like that |
| 00:04.05 | petn-randall | smw: It was fairly common for 802.11n-draft devices to only do 2.4 GHz. |
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| 00:04.29 | Mongo44 | For some reason I can only pastebin 40 lines. |
| 00:04.29 | yofun | question does apt-get autoremove think about the stuff we built manually? |
| 00:05.11 | smw | petn-randall, I expect more from a new laptop |
| 00:05.30 | smw | curses hp and wonders why he bought it |
| 00:05.45 | yofun | Like I installed java manually. Is there a chance apt-get autoremove will remove the dependentices for java |
| 00:05.48 | Mongo44 | Oh it seem it gave this repository: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages |
| 00:06.00 | petn-randall | yofun: manually built packages? Yes, but if you installed the with 'dpkg -i <package>', they get marked as manually installed. |
| 00:06.19 | jhutchins | smw: You can often replace the wifi module. |
| 00:06.22 | petn-randall | s/the /them / |
| 00:06.30 | Mongo44 | That mean I should vi /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 00:06.33 | yofun | So apt-get autoremove wont touch those? |
| 00:06.38 | smw | jhutchins, yeah, figuring that out now |
| 00:07.04 | petn-randall | yofun: If you got them marked as 'manually installed' they won't. |
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| 00:07.10 | smw | jhutchins, my whole office is happy we switched to 5GHz, and they don't want to switch back if they can help it :-) |
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| 00:08.08 | jhutchins | yofun: If you build them as deb packages, apt will manage them. |
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| 00:08.40 | Mongo44 | Also my previous question how do I know if I still have missing firmware? |
| 00:08.44 | Guest25798 | is there a way to tell where aptitude is installing to? |
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| 00:09.18 | Guest25798 | I aptitude install build-essential but it's just gone.... |
| 00:09.43 | petn-randall | Mongo44: It says so in /var/log/kern.log. Something among the lines of "Possible missing firmware <name>". |
| 00:10.03 | jhutchins | Guest25798: dpkg -L <package> |
| 00:10.33 | Guest25798 | jhutchins: thank you :) |
| 00:10.58 | Mongo44 | I reckon I'll cat that. |
| 00:11.14 | jhutchins | Mongo44: Use less - you can search. |
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| 00:11.59 | yofun | here's the method we used http://roger.steneteg.org/535/how-to-install-oracle-java-on-ubuntudebian/ |
| 00:12.16 | yofun | So will autoremove affect that? |
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| 00:13.15 | mdim | how to disable beeps made by programs that use GNU Readline when an end of file is reached? |
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| 00:14.07 | petn-randall | yofun: Just run the command. It will prompt you with a list of packages it will want to remove. |
| 00:14.39 | tengri | mdim: pc speaker beep? |
| 00:14.54 | petn-randall | mdim: There's a slider in your sound mixer for that. |
| 00:15.09 | yofun | I don't want to break jre |
| 00:15.15 | yofun | That's why I'm asking |
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| 00:15.44 | Mongo44 | That is a rediculous amount of information. |
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| 00:15.59 | petn-randall | yofun: Well, we can speculate all day, but in the end the only way to find out is to run this command and just select no. |
| 00:16.22 | themill | yofun: you're installing java completely outside the knowledge of the package manager. |
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| 00:17.06 | yofun | So it wont touch them at all |
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| 00:17.38 | Mongo44 | Isn't Icedtea better than Java? |
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| 00:17.57 | yofun | Icedtea is a java plugin |
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| 00:18.13 | yofun | browser plugin |
| 00:18.24 | Mongo44 | Oh it seem it gave this repository: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages *posted earlier. |
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| 00:18.59 | Mongo44 | Is that where the VBox package is? |
| 00:19.10 | themill | Mongo44: you never showed us the output... |
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| 00:20.12 | Mongo44 | There was only maybe ten more lines. I don't understand why it didn't pastebin them all. |
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| 00:21.07 | themill | it's the first lines you missed out |
| 00:21.19 | themill | "apt-cache policy virtualbox" |
| 00:21.40 | jhutchins | contrib |
| 00:21.47 | themill | jhutchins: no |
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| 00:22.01 | Mongo44 | virtualbox: |
| 00:22.01 | Mongo44 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.02 | Mongo44 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.02 | Mongo44 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:22.07 | Devastator | my god |
| 00:22.09 | jhutchins | I thought it was in contrib because the bootfiles were non-free. |
| 00:22.17 | themill | jhutchins: not in wheezy |
| 00:22.22 | jhutchins | Ah. |
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| 00:35.34 | amaurymedeiros | Good evening. I work in a lab where I do not have internet access during the installation of debian (we also need authentication in the browser). So I want to put everything needed in a 16GB USB memory stick to install debian completely offline. What is the best way for me to proceed? I tried some solutions already, but none of them seems to work. |
| 00:35.58 | napcae | what did you alrdy try? |
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| 00:37.35 | civillian | amaurymedeiros: take the PC and put it online for the installation |
| 00:38.09 | civillian | then take it back and install the PC with the OS already tehre |
| 00:38.11 | civillian | there* |
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| 00:42.48 | FuuqUmist | does Debian work well with Steam? |
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| 00:43.09 | napcae | I#d say depends on your hardware |
| 00:43.20 | FuuqUmist | oh ok |
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| 00:44.35 | Nik05 | well Steam is bloated on both windows and linux |
| 00:44.59 | Nik05 | its really sad, in the past it was fast |
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| 00:54.41 | amaurymedeiros | civillian, thanks. but i'm afraid i can not take the PC away from the lab =/ |
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| 00:55.11 | amaurymedeiros | napcae, I tried to use netbootin's hdinstall and place de CD1 ISO inside the memory stick |
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| 00:55.22 | mcurran | I installed the repo nvidia drivers and they didn't work, so now i want to go back to nouveau, but it's not working now, I disabled the blacklist created in /etc/modprobe/nvidia*.conf, but there must be something else I'm missing because gdm is saying that there's no 3D acceleration when starting up and I get the "Oops" message |
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| 00:55.44 | napcae | amaurymedeiros: why not just dd the dvd? |
| 00:55.55 | amaurymedeiros | napcae, because there are 3 dvds |
| 00:56.04 | napcae | what? |
| 00:56.18 | amaurymedeiros | http://debian.las.ic.unicamp.br/debian-cd/7.3.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 00:56.30 | amaurymedeiros | debian-7.3.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso, debian-7.3.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso and debian-7.3.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso |
| 00:56.40 | amaurymedeiros | don't i need all of them to install completely offline? |
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| 00:57.44 | napcae | http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/MANIFEST |
| 00:58.02 | napcae | wait |
| 00:58.10 | amaurymedeiros | ok |
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| 01:01.13 | napcae | amaurymedeiros: i'm reading this http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/installation.html#sect.installation-methods |
| 01:01.20 | napcae | section 4.1 |
| 01:01.36 | napcae | i cant believe that you really need 3 dvd's for the base system. |
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| 01:01.46 | napcae | there must be many packages that you dont need |
| 01:02.11 | mdim | petn-randall: no, this is not about the slider. It happens even when the sound is off. I've also added pcspkr and snd_pcsp to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but that didn't help either |
| 01:03.10 | amaurymedeiros | napcae, I took a look at that link earlier, but I noticed it considers the netinst image |
| 01:03.20 | mcurran | why do you have to install offline? |
| 01:03.22 | mdim | petn-randall: and turning the sound off is not really effective approach |
| 01:03.37 | napcae | mcurran: the pc has no internet access I think |
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| 01:03.54 | napcae | moving it physically is no option |
| 01:03.57 | mcurran | use a live cd and use the neighbors wifi |
| 01:04.02 | mcurran | backtrack |
| 01:04.02 | napcae | its a lab |
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| 01:04.15 | amaurymedeiros | mcurran, because my lab has this security burocracy and we can connect to external network only after a browser authentication |
| 01:04.25 | napcae | may be take the hdd |
| 01:04.43 | mcurran | that sucks, yeah, you might have to use the dvd's |
| 01:05.05 | napcae | or you can install it on an external hDD and copy that after wards |
| 01:05.07 | mcurran | I was thinking the same thing for my last install the other day, but luckily i was able to connect |
| 01:05.12 | amaurymedeiros | napcae, I think I only need the first one |
| 01:05.14 | amaurymedeiros | http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
| 01:05.23 | amaurymedeiros | "The first CD/DVD disk contains all the files necessary to install a standard Debian system." |
| 01:05.28 | mcurran | i was wondering if i could combine the iso's on a usb |
| 01:05.40 | petn-randall | napcae: If you don't have internet access, you'll need all DVDs, yes. But then again it's 2014, just grab the netinstaller and use the internet." |
| 01:05.41 | napcae | amaurymedeiros: yeah, that could work then |
| 01:05.41 | mcurran | i never found an answer though, sorry i'm not much help |
| 01:05.54 | napcae | petn-randall: did you read the conversation |
| 01:06.48 | mcurran | so you not on the pc now obviously. if you're thinking of using gnome then I wouldn't bother at the moment as I've been fighting with X for about a month now with the latest nvidia drivers and gnome |
| 01:06.51 | amaurymedeiros | mcurran, I thought about that, but I think it wouldn't work. It would be easier if we're taliking about parts of an installer or something |
| 01:07.12 | mcurran | and using the nouveau driver is just pointless because it uses 100% process power and RAM |
| 01:07.27 | amaurymedeiros | mcurran, napcae, thank you guys for the help |
| 01:07.37 | amaurymedeiros | mcurran, no, I'm on my own pc right now |
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| 01:07.53 | petn-randall | napcae: Yes, but how are you supposed to install things easily otherwise? You can configure a proxy if you need that. |
| 01:08.01 | napcae | amaurymedeiros: I installed debian yesterday with the net install on a vm. it just takes 2,5 GB. so I cant imagine you really need all 3 dvd's |
| 01:08.20 | napcae | petn-randall: !? |
| 01:08.23 | mcurran | I got a brand new msi Z87 MPOWER MAX mobo the other day, and it's so sad to look at it not in use. i don't have the money to buy the processor, ram or power supply. sucks |
| 01:09.03 | mcurran | that's what I was curious about two, why would the install need four DVD's when the extracted information is less than 1 DVD |
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| 01:09.40 | mcurran | I'm probably going to have to reinstall, and I really don't want to. |
| 01:09.51 | amaurymedeiros | napcae, yea, I remember the installation on the computer I'm using right now. It was small, but I could select the packages I wanted to install |
| 01:10.00 | schue | does anyone know if there is a resource that documents the list of messages that caused people to be banned off of Debian mailing lists? |
| 01:10.04 | mcurran | I'll be back peeps, I'm gonna try getting the nvidia driver working on kernel 3.12 or 3.13 |
| 01:10.27 | napcae | amaurymedeiros: well, good luck then :) |
| 01:10.28 | petn-randall | schue: Google didn't find it for you? |
| 01:10.38 | schue | petn-randall: was trying to find it. no luck so far. |
| 01:10.59 | amaurymedeiros | napcae, thanks |
| 01:11.25 | schue | hm. maybe they are not published on purpose. |
| 01:11.31 | petn-randall | schue: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ |
| 01:11.40 | petn-randall | schue: Oh hey, here they are. |
| 01:11.46 | schue | petn-randall: is that a list of the messages that got people banned? |
| 01:12.25 | schue | this is closer https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/11/msg00011.html |
| 01:13.19 | amaurymedeiros | napcae, one more thing (just to confirm) |
| 01:13.32 | petn-randall | schue: So what was the last thing you wrote before getting banned? |
| 01:13.46 | schue | petn-randall: I am not banned. |
| 01:13.55 | amaurymedeiros | "cat my_iso.iso > /dev/sdd1" and then "sync && sync" should do it? |
| 01:14.22 | schue | petn-randall: I'm working on a piece of software. |
| 01:14.49 | napcae | amaurymedeiros: I'm not sure, i refer you to this site http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 01:14.58 | petn-randall | amaurymedeiros: 'cp my_iso.iso /dev/sdd', notice the missing digit. |
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| 01:15.21 | petn-randall | amaurymedeiros: Make sure /dev/sdd really is your USB stick. |
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| 01:17.39 | amaurymedeiros | napcae, petn-randall, thanks |
| 01:17.46 | petn-randall | schue: You can ask the mailing list admins if it's ok to use bots, but I guess they'll need to see the benefit to allow it. |
| 01:18.24 | napcae | amaurymedeiros: yw |
| 01:18.54 | amaurymedeiros | petn-randall, but fdisk -l output give me /dev/sdd1 |
| 01:19.18 | amaurymedeiros | do i still should use just sdd? |
| 01:20.14 | petn-randall | amaurymedeiros: Yes, and you'll be wiping all the contents from that USB stick, so make sure you don't need anything on it. |
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| 01:45.40 | AndroUser | Hello all. Using debian whezy, i was trying to install compiz but after rebooting computer now goes to tty1 and if i try to startX, all i get is a black screen with a mouse pointer. Please help me fix this. TIA! |
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| 01:50.14 | Tramp | !compiz |
| 01:50.15 | dpkg | Compiz was a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. Compiz hasn't been developed for some time and is no longer part of Debian (see bugs #719870 and #677864). Plenty of other window managers have the same features as compiz. For a list of available window managers, run «apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager». See also http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz http://www.compiz.org/ or #compiz on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:50.32 | Tramp | not in Debian |
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| 01:52.12 | AndroUser | Hello all. Using wheezy, I was trying to install compiiz and upon reboot all I get now is the terminal, no GUI whatsoever. Please help me fix this. TIA! |
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| 01:53.20 | Jobbe | AndroUser: tried startx ? |
| 01:53.45 | binary1985 | AndroUser: Read above |
| 01:54.05 | abrotman | AndroUser: Compiz is dead |
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| 01:55.28 | roboman2444 | AndroUser, what graphics drivers? |
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| 01:57.16 | x_ | Hello everyone, just curious if anyone knows why I cannot use a 16384 bit gnupg key on Wheezy. I can't seem to find a solution to it so far. I have pulled the source through apt and modified for compiling 16384, but ran into an issue of not having enough secure memory allocated. That in itself is odd as I have 32GB of ram. Nonetheless, I still cannot decrypt with my 16384bit key. |
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| 01:57.21 | AndroUser999 | Roboman2444, nvidiz |
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| 01:57.35 | roboman2444 | nouveau or the binary? |
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| 01:58.31 | AndroUser999 | ?? |
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| 01:59.00 | x_ | AndroUser999: What graphics card are you using and what drivers are you using for it? |
| 01:59.11 | abrotman | compiz is still dead |
| 01:59.12 | ixio2 | hi, Im trying to install libmysqld-dev via apt-get but encounter libmysqld-dev: Depends: libmysqlclient-dev (>= 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1) ; if I try install libmysqlclient-dev that depends on libmysqlclient16 which in turn depends on mysql-common which is already installed |
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| 01:59.41 | ixio2 | libmysqlclient16: Depends: mysql-common (>= 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1) but 5.0.51a-24+lenny5 is to be installed |
| 01:59.48 | centrx | lenny... |
| 01:59.52 | ixio2 | yeah its old |
| 02:01.04 | AndroUser999 | X_, nvidis w/non propietary drivers |
| 02:01.13 | centrx | ixio2, You need to install lenny packages on lenny |
| 02:01.18 | centrx | ixio2, Or upgrade your system... |
| 02:01.34 | ixio2 | has someone added non-lenny sources to it then ? |
| 02:01.41 | ixio2 | are there any lenny sources left? |
| 02:01.47 | centrx | Check /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 02:03.54 | AndroUser999 | X_, im having issues w/my connectin: I have an nvidia with oss drivers |
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| 02:05.01 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ixio2 about ado |
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| 02:06.23 | x_ | AndroUser999: The card you are using: what model is it? I am using a GTX670M, and I'm using the bumblebee drivers because I need otpimus support |
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| 02:06.34 | x_ | optimus* |
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| 02:09.35 | AndroUser999 | X_, are we talking about the same issues? My problem is w/compiz ... to be honest I dont even remember which GC I use :/ |
| 02:09.53 | abrotman | Thank goodness |
| 02:10.00 | vimel | ^ |
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| 02:10.57 | x_ | We are talking about the same issue. I'm talking about the differences in graphics card drivers, inquiring which you are using. |
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| 02:11.33 | x_ | AndroUser999: Were you running KDE or gnome before you installed compiz? |
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| 02:12.25 | AndroUser999 | X_, I see, but I honedtly dnt recall ... somthing like gx9000 ... I was using gnome |
| 02:12.42 | x_ | okay |
| 02:12.52 | wood_quinn_ | How do I get stunnel to start? It "cannot" create a pidfile- and astonishingly refuses to start because of it. |
| 02:13.08 | wood_quinn_ | (Because you know, nobody knows how to use ps or pidof.) |
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| 02:15.27 | x_ | AndroUser999: nano ~/.gnomerc |
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| 02:16.10 | x_ | AndroUser999: then enter: export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/compiz |
| 02:16.27 | abrotman | ... |
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| 02:17.04 | x_ | AndroUser999: this is supposed to have your default window manager to be compiz. I don't use compiz, but I'm looking at things on google for you. |
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| 02:19.47 | AndroUser999 | X_, I dnt even know how to save the file with nano ... im mostly useless w/oa gui... |
| 02:20.02 | wood_quinn_ | ... |
| 02:20.13 | wood_quinn_ | There's a massive help section at the bottom of the interface. |
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| 02:20.24 | wood_quinn_ | Unless you specifically turned it off in the config file. |
| 02:20.25 | AndroUser999 | X_, should I reboot after saving? |
| 02:20.27 | vimel | ctrl+x, type Y (for yes), hit enter. |
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| 02:24.48 | nath | heya, I want to install ardour, lilypond and some apps from "testing" into "stable" what is the best way doing it? (maybe despite from compiling it myself)) |
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| 02:27.20 | abrotman | dpkg: tell nath about ssb |
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| 02:28.45 | AndroUser999 | X_, im still getting same behavior ... any ideas? |
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| 02:37.31 | nath | people allways say, you got to enable backports for those apps, would that mean do an special entry for those fellows in the sources.list? |
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| 02:40.31 | nath | dpkg: thx |
| 02:40.31 | dpkg | THX (R), the next generation surround sound, developed by a George Lucas company. (mplayer is not certified), or just say "Thanks" |
| 02:40.52 | nath | :-P |
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| 03:35.25 | mcurran | I've been trying to revive my Xserver for days now... |
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| 03:38.40 | nimbiotics | hello all, I was trying to install compiz on my wheezy machine and something went wrong: After rebooting I had no more GUI. I tried purging it and apt-get reported compiz was not installed; I then tried installing kde, gnome and cinnamon to no avail. Can someone please help fix my linux?? TIA! |
| 03:38.58 | socomm | compiz |
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| 03:39.32 | nimbiotics | yes ... now I'm awaare it wasnt such a good idea... |
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| 03:41.26 | socomm | nimbiotics: 'apt-get install gnome' |
| 03:41.32 | socomm | nimbiotics: what does that give you, m8 |
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| 03:48.21 | nimbiotics | socomm it tells me im missing some dependencies ... how ca I include them, just add the in the apt-get install?? |
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| 03:50.38 | nimbiotics | socomm: it was originally telling mer about 3 dependices; when I added them to the apt-get install comand, more were show, too many to list |
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| 03:51.19 | nimbiotics | socomm: i'm getting error message ending in "Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' |
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| 03:52.56 | socomm | nimbiotics: generally apt-get will include any dependencies to the install when you install a program |
| 03:54.38 | nimbiotics | socomm: any way to force apt-get to include all dependencies?? |
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| 03:56.55 | FungiFox | nimbiotics: you mean instead of ignoring ones you already got? |
| 03:58.29 | mcurran | just install the package and then "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt-get install -f" |
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| 03:59.51 | nimbiotics | FungiFox: I'm not sure, I'm willing to try anything; I just NEED to have ANY GUI to my linux |
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| 04:23.51 | nimbiotics | Need help installing a GUI on my wheezy machine: I was using gnome and tried installing compiz. After that my debian started booting directly to tty. I then tried kde, cinnamon and gnome, but I keep booting to tyy and if I try to startx all I get i s ablack screen with a mouse pointer ... Please help. TIA! |
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| 04:24.21 | abrotman | Cinnamon and compiz aren't in wheezy |
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| 04:25.31 | nimbiotics | well, I tried cause I hit a web page giving instructions on how to install them ... In any case gnome IS in wheezy and that didnt work either ... any ideas? |
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| 04:31.13 | anshin | I'm trying to compile weechat, and I get the following error even though libgcrypt11 and libgcrypt11-dev are installed: http://pastebin.com/8CwpCW08 |
| 04:31.49 | anshin | I don't know how to get these files |
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| 04:37.24 | anshin | never mind, I found what I was doing wrong |
| 04:37.49 | anshin | I created the build directory inside ./src instead of in the project root |
| 04:38.00 | anshin | thanks to any of you who were trying to find a solution |
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| 04:40.44 | centrx | sorbolene, You could look at the Makefile, or audit the filesystem while make install is running. |
| 04:40.53 | centrx | sorbolene, But in general, not really, that is why we use package management systems :) |
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| 04:41.55 | centrx | anshin And...it's gone |
| 04:42.31 | centrx | nimbiotics, Usually best to stick with the native packages |
| 04:42.40 | centrx | nimbiotics, You could use wheezy-backports...or testing |
| 04:43.08 | sorbolene | centrx, do you recommend something like checkinstall? |
| 04:44.01 | centrx | sorbolene, I am not familiar with it, but it looks like a good idea |
| 04:44.46 | sorbolene | centrx, this is a package I got off git if it makes a difference |
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| 04:45.29 | iateadonut | there's an ncurses program, something like sysconfig, i think, it lets you choose the services to start at different runlevels - what is it? |
| 04:45.31 | centrx | sorbolene, I usually do not use make install, I just run it from the directory I compiled it in so my system does not get cluttered |
| 04:46.24 | sorbolene | centrx, sounds like a good idea. i need to declutter this package so if you could point me in the right direction to doing an audit on the filesystem while using make install, then i can backtrack |
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| 04:50.08 | themill | iateadonut: rcconf? |
| 04:51.02 | Devastatr | there goes my nickname |
| 04:51.41 | centrx | sorbolene, There is also stow, http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/ |
| 04:52.04 | centrx | sorbolene, checkinstall would work, you would just need to open up the resulting Debian package it creates and see what it does |
| 04:52.16 | Devastator | the only part I hate about reporting bugs is what and how to write the report, even a wishlist |
| 04:52.35 | sorbolene | centrx, but first I must cleanup. i couldn't find any clues in the makefile though.. |
| 04:52.41 | centrx | oh |
| 04:52.55 | centrx | sorbolene, You could use find to find which files were changed in a given date range |
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| 04:54.22 | sorbolene | centrx, what would be the syntax? |
| 04:54.25 | sorbolene | sounds like a good idea |
| 04:56.12 | centrx | find -newer or -ctime I believer |
| 05:00.58 | sorbolene | find / -name "*.*" -mtime -1 -print |
| 05:01.01 | sorbolene | did the trick centrx |
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| 05:01.53 | centrx | Excellent |
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| 05:18.11 | Devastator | themill do you have 1 minute to review my wishlist report? I would feel more comfortable if someone read it before I send |
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| 05:33.42 | iateadonut | themill, thanks |
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| 06:19.29 | drijen_ | evening all, fast question: I created a job with an at command, but now i need to remove it |
| 06:19.32 | drijen_ | how do i do so? |
| 06:19.36 | drijen_ | also, hi yang |
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| 06:21.09 | drijen | nvm, suddenly remembered atq instead of jobs |
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| 06:23.03 | neo1691 | I would like to measure the read write speed of my hardisk, what should my command be? |
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| 06:25.36 | BackEndCoder | neo1691, check out sysbench |
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| 06:26.23 | neo1691 | BackEndCoder, On my way |
| 06:27.13 | neo1691 | Not on my box, there was a standard tool, I can't remember, it showed the r/w speeds |
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| 06:27.28 | neo1691 | sysbench isn't available on standard debian wheezy |
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| 06:33.52 | rryoumaa | hdparm, bonnie++ |
| 06:34.09 | rryoumaa | neo1691: |
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| 06:35.00 | neo1691 | rryoumaa, yup hdparm seems exactly what I wanted!:) |
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| 07:02.42 | JaneSmith | is debian (default) using ifconfig? |
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| 07:11.40 | rryoumaa | are you asking if it is in the repo? |
| 07:12.01 | rryoumaa | JaneSmith: it is in the nettools package |
| 07:12.07 | rryoumaa | JaneSmith: it is in the net-tools package |
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| 07:14.36 | spawn` | anyone here of open mind and able to talk for a min to me |
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| 07:14.59 | spawn` | guess not |
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| 07:15.11 | spawn` | so i have to pick one of you |
| 07:15.24 | spawn` | bal |
| 07:15.27 | spawn` | it is you |
| 07:16.16 | rryoumaa | yer makin' it seem like yer gonna convert bal to yer religion |
| 07:16.28 | spawn` | nope |
| 07:16.37 | spawn` | imn trying to stop a madman |
| 07:16.44 | apm1 | this is strictly a support channel |
| 07:16.51 | spawn` | so support me |
| 07:16.59 | apm1 | please take all discussions to #debian-offtopic |
| 07:17.08 | spawn` | so sad |
| 07:17.13 | spawn` | youd make it that official |
| 07:17.35 | spawn` | forget it:) |
| 07:17.59 | spawn` | wiki tomorrow |
| 07:18.20 | spawn` | im eating fillet mignon with some fava's |
| 07:18.31 | spawn` | not brain no...... |
| 07:18.57 | spawn` | people have no heart at all |
| 07:19.05 | spawn` | they follow the rules so tight |
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| 07:19.22 | spawn` | no wonder ive been klined from ALL servers multiple times |
| 07:19.31 | spawn` | for reasons like this |
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| 07:19.36 | JaneSmith | rryoumaa thx |
| 07:19.39 | spawn` | but look what happened last time |
| 07:19.53 | spawn` | bunch of kids got shot |
| 07:20.21 | spawn` | but this case right here on freenode |
| 07:20.35 | spawn` | 275 cultists |
| 07:20.45 | spawn` | listen to 1 idiot |
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| 07:21.01 | spawn` | will you do something about it? |
| 07:21.09 | spawn` | or watch it on the news |
| 07:21.19 | spawn` | ive tried for 3 hours to stop it |
| 07:21.26 | spawn` | im done. |
| 07:21.39 | spawn` | a hacker can do all he can |
| 07:21.54 | spawn` | even trying to play with his fellows |
| 07:22.05 | spawn` | its in your hands |
| 07:22.08 | spawn` | your server |
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| 07:22.27 | spawn` | oh |
| 07:22.36 | JaneSmith | write a blog and send us a link :) |
| 07:22.38 | spawn` | and its channel #defocus |
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| 07:22.45 | spawn` | enjoy |
| 07:22.52 | spawn` | jane |
| 07:23.02 | spawn` | go back to the mid 90's and die |
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| 07:23.27 | spawn` | i obviously care about the people in my world |
| 07:23.30 | spawn` | and my country |
| 07:23.32 | spawn` | you dont |
| 07:23.45 | spawn` | wtf is wrong with you |
| 07:23.58 | spawn` | they not gonna buy stock from you tomorrow? |
| 07:24.18 | spawn` | symm |
| 07:24.23 | spawn` | forgive me |
| 07:24.30 | spawn` | i shouldnt be here |
| 07:24.38 | spawn` | these people dont care about humans |
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| 07:24.54 | spawn` | rryou |
| 07:25.00 | spawn` | just /quit |
| 07:25.04 | spawn` | you dont give a FUCK |
| 07:25.12 | spawn` | god damn dude |
| 07:25.14 | BenNZ | spawn`: you do know this #debian not #imanarseholewhousestheenterkeyaspunctuation |
| 07:25.27 | spawn` | lets see |
| 07:25.46 | spawn` | this does derive into the worlds national market |
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| 07:26.02 | spawn` | and i bet half the fucks in the cult are your idiot countryman |
| 07:26.20 | spawn` | crosseyed fucking aboriginies |
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| 07:26.37 | spawn` | use your fucking head |
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| 07:26.44 | BenNZ | spawn`: im not in australia |
| 07:27.05 | spawn` | just because its doesnt say "su xxxxxx" doesnt mean it means nothing |
| 07:27.17 | spawn` | you fucking pigs |
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| 07:27.38 | JaneSmith | it must be really lonely being you |
| 07:27.44 | spawn` | im trying to protect people here and you criticize me |
| 07:27.55 | spawn` | how does that feel |
| 07:28.02 | spawn` | christians? |
| 07:28.05 | spawn` | catholic? |
| 07:28.16 | spawn` | or just idiot |
| 07:28.39 | spawn` | it took me 20 years to love people and im trying real hard |
| 07:28.45 | BenNZ | spawn`: i think youre all of the above |
| 07:28.58 | spawn` | and people like you fuck that up |
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| 07:29.03 | JaneSmith | you just spam incoherent thoughts in the wrong 'window' :) |
| 07:29.08 | spawn` | ya |
| 07:29.14 | spawn` | wrong window right |
| 07:29.26 | spawn` | so if i was raping your sister |
| 07:29.33 | spawn` | id tell you in this window |
| 07:29.44 | spawn` | youd say "wrong window" |
| 07:29.48 | spawn` | right? |
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| 07:29.55 | spawn` | come on |
| 07:29.56 | spawn` | speak |
| 07:30.00 | spawn` | speak NOW |
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| 07:30.01 | spawn` | idiot |
| 07:30.06 | spawn` | of course |
| 07:30.14 | spawn` | you are a piece of shit human |
| 07:30.17 | spawn` | just meat |
| 07:30.21 | spawn` | dog food |
| 07:30.28 | spawn` | hate you |
| 07:30.48 | spawn` | tooeasy too pass others problems off |
| 07:31.01 | spawn` | you dont give a fuck |
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| 07:31.06 | spawn` | go die |
| 07:31.19 | spawn` | no wonder our species is a dying race |
| 07:31.31 | spawn` | red 2 |
| 07:31.37 | spawn` | gave me a theory |
| 07:31.46 | spawn` | time for us to die as a race |
| 07:31.58 | spawn` | oh |
| 07:32.09 | spawn` | for those of you you who actually care |
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| 07:32.17 | spawn` | im waiting |
| 07:32.36 | spawn` | i might have made something nice |
| 07:32.42 | spawn` | maybe not |
| 07:32.54 | spawn` | but i am a poison expert |
| 07:33.10 | spawn` | thats what the special forces taught me |
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| 07:35.20 | spawn` | wheres big brother? |
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| 07:35.32 | spawn` | oh....wait........i am big brother arent i |
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| 07:36.02 | spawn` | well not fully yet |
| 07:36.06 | spawn` | but soon |
| 07:36.41 | spawn` | stop the leaving and shit |
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| 07:37.06 | spawn` | is the one i wanted to talk to the entire time |
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| 07:38.41 | spawn` | ahhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 07:40.51 | babilen | BenNZ, JaneSmith, apm1: Please just call "dpkg: ops $REASON" in cases like this. There really is no need to have this going on longer than needed. |
| 07:41.01 | babilen | Thank you :) |
| 07:41.29 | BenNZ | babilen: sorry wasnt sure how to call the ops |
| 07:41.49 | babilen | BenNZ: No problem really (one reason why I pointed it out) |
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| 07:42.43 | apm1 | .quit |
| 07:42.52 | BenNZ | babilen: just to make sure, id use /dpkg ops spawn ? |
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| 07:43.30 | babilen | BenNZ: No, you address the bot normally. Just write "dpkg: ops AND SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY" (don't try it though) |
| 07:43.36 | babilen | dpkg: botsnack |
| 07:43.37 | dpkg | babilen: :) |
| 07:43.59 | BenNZ | babilen: ok i see , will do in future |
| 07:43.59 | babilen | Like that, just with ops :) |
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| 08:39.38 | JeffJohnson | howdy |
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| 08:40.30 | JeffJohnson | I'm using debian/testing and since yesterday the mark-test, paste it with a middleclick functionality doesn't work anymore. I first thought it's urxvt related, but it also happens in firefox. Anybody has an idea what could cause it? Is it maybe a new xorg configuration option? |
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| 08:43.56 | shomon | hi, I'm trying to backup some old mbox files.. but I don't want to lose the mail that might be useful on them |
| 08:43.57 | babilen | JeffJohnson: testing/unstable are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net -- We also have to know what happened yesterday (did you upgrade something, if so: what exactly?) |
| 08:44.06 | shomon | how do I view and check through these files on a terminal? |
| 08:44.19 | shomon | and then what is the best way to back them up having removed spam and large files? |
| 08:44.20 | babilen | shomon: "less /path/to/mbox" would work. |
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| 08:44.40 | shomon | babilen, yes but that doesn't easily let me remove all amazon emails for example |
| 08:44.44 | babilen | shomon: "cp /path/to/mbox /path/to/mbox_backup" would be a way to copy them :) |
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| 08:45.30 | shomon | so all the stuff that isn't from a real person etc... maybe download mutt.. or is there an easier package for that? |
| 08:45.46 | JeffJohnson | babilen: im running aptitude full-upgrade every few days, without memorizing all packages that are upgraded |
| 08:45.53 | shomon | so I have to be able to open an mbox file and remove the crud before copying it as you said |
| 08:45.59 | babilen | shomon: Then load the mbox into a mail client and delete it there, or use http://docs.python.org/2/library/mailbox.html and a suitable Python script or ... |
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| 08:46.42 | babilen | JeffJohnson: Well, I'd recommend to install apt-listchanges (and apt-listbugs if you aren't running it already) -- Luckily there are logs at /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 08:46.58 | shomon | thanks! |
| 08:48.41 | babilen | shomon: In the end they are just plain text files in a specific format and you could edit them manually. I guess that the easiest way is to use a mail client. You could, for example, use mutt on the command line like: "mutt -f /path/to/mbox" |
| 08:49.06 | JeffJohnson | babilen: thanks, I'm already using it but didn't know about the history file :) |
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| 08:52.20 | shomon | okay babilen I guess I'll try mutt to edit with. |
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| 08:57.22 | shomon | is there a program that will read all the mbox files and tell me where all the largest attachments are? |
| 08:57.34 | shomon | or a simple way to do this? |
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| 08:58.07 | joj | shomon: mboxstats |
| 08:58.26 | shomon | thanks! |
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| 08:59.56 | mikejudge | hi guys, will i have trouble getting this to work with just the v7 dvd (no other net connection) zd1211rw |
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| 09:03.33 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, what do I have to do to turn Debian 7 to the latest version so my software won't be 3 versions out of date? My Kmail is 1.13.7, the newest version is 4.12.1. |
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| 09:05.33 | not_ice | how do i port a open source program to linux? |
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| 09:05.47 | not_ice | http://sourceforge.net/projects/milkdrop2/ |
| 09:05.52 | mikejudge | i see i probably need firmware-7.3.0-i386-netinst.iso , i didnt think the text installer supported wifi |
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| 09:10.48 | Lady_Aleena | Do I just go into the sources file and change wheezy to jesse or whatever the newest version of Debian is? |
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| 09:11.28 | forcer | not_ice: You try to compile it, fix any errors you get, and repeat until it compiles. Then you try to run it, fix any errors you get, until it runs. Then you ported it. |
| 09:11.39 | forcer | <.< |
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| 09:12.35 | Lady_Aleena | Sorry sid. |
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| 09:16.55 | Lady_Aleena | For example: Do I change "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free" to "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free"? |
| 09:17.58 | joj | not_ice: forcer: porting that software will be an unpleasant task, as a) the build system must be ported from visual basic to a Linux toolchain (gcc, there is x86 assembler code for gcc available) b) I took a look at the code, and at least part of the code is intermingled with windows API calls / no posix, which of course won't work. So everything needs to be ported or rewritten for a libc available on Linux. |
| 09:18.01 | joj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:19.02 | not_ice | ok forget about it |
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| 09:19.23 | themill | Lady_Aleena: You might want to avoid doing that until you know more about debian. It won't be fun... |
| 09:20.35 | Lady_Aleena | themill, I just want a version of KMail which can export KMail data, and the current Debian wheezy version can't do that. |
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| 09:22.02 | Lady_Aleena | When I told the people in #kde my version, they looked at me like I had a third eyeball on my forehead. |
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| 09:22.54 | themill | Lady_Aleena: you don't want kmail from jessie or sid. |
| 09:23.25 | Lady_Aleena | themill, how do I get KMail version 4.12.1? |
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| 09:23.35 | themill | Lady_Aleena: kmail uses either mbox or maildir for local folders. There's nothing to export. |
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| 09:24.06 | themill | Lady_Aleena: and worst case for any of these things is you run your own local imap server (dovecot for example) and copy all the folders into that |
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| 09:26.50 | MoonTiger | hi guys - i'm having a weird issue that is confusing me regarding hard drives - specifically i just added a hard drive to the bay slot on my thinkpad t61 and it is showing as /sda not /sdb |
| 09:27.05 | MoonTiger | now my boot drive is showing as /sdb |
| 09:27.09 | MoonTiger | is this a problem? |
| 09:27.16 | Lady_Aleena | just broke down into tears. Needs to go afk. |
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| 09:31.34 | petern_ | MoonTiger, no |
| 09:31.52 | petern_ | /etc/fstab uses UUIDs for precisely this reason |
| 09:32.21 | MoonTiger | petern_: i've set the uuid's in fstab |
| 09:32.40 | MoonTiger | are you saying uuid's make /sda and /sdb etc irrelevant? |
| 09:32.50 | petern_ | Precisely. The UUIDs don't change. |
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| 09:33.06 | MoonTiger | petern_: thanks - just wanted to make sure :) |
| 09:33.07 | shomon | hi, I'm here still with mail.. It's going quite well with mutt and mboxstats.. but I'd like to then upload them to a roundcube based mail server |
| 09:33.27 | shomon | what is the best way? Should I connect via thunderbird and import my files on there? |
| 09:34.21 | shomon | or is there a good place to ask that? |
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| 09:35.44 | alexises | Hi |
| 09:36.12 | alexises | I would like to disable pulseodio (for using mpd) |
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| 09:36.35 | alexises | Unfortunently I'm in the situation when I do an aplay -l it's say me no sound card detected |
| 09:36.44 | alexises | howto solve this fucking issue |
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| 09:42.21 | johnfreez | my/this debian instance is fucked |
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| 09:42.38 | johnfreez | i recall the word; it's genderization |
| 09:43.36 | johnfreez | i choose a different choice. my/this debian instance is. . .desirous |
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| 09:44.00 | johnfreez | desirous of tlc, for want of love |
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| 09:45.56 | shomon | sorry I connected to the mozilla server and it inadvertently logged me out of freenode :) |
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| 09:46.05 | lionrouge | hi |
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| 09:46.11 | alexises | no idea ? |
| 09:46.24 | lionrouge | i have deleted wine but it's applications are still associated with some of file types |
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| 09:46.36 | lionrouge | how can i fix it? |
| 09:46.46 | cnodell | Does Synaptic run apt-get and apt-cache commands in the background? |
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| 09:47.46 | themill | cnodell: no, it uses libapt |
| 09:47.52 | petn-randall | cnodell: No, but it accesses the libapt library |
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| 09:49.03 | dFence | good GMT-morning guys! |
| 09:49.05 | cnodell | Thought so. |
| 09:49.46 | cnodell | Well, I did not think that exactily but I was pretty sure it was not running apt-get commands behind the scenes. I did not know what library it was using though. |
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| 09:50.02 | pacmac | hello all |
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| 09:51.32 | dFence | I'm setting up a L2TPNS-VPN server on my root-server following https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/iPhoneVPNServer; I only have eth0 with my global ip-address - what ip_range should I specify? Create a new "internal" network on eth0:1? |
| 09:51.57 | petn-randall | cnodell: In the end it should have the same effect, since apt-get also uses the same library. Are you asking out of curiosity, or are you debugging a problem? |
| 09:52.04 | cnodell | If I install an app like ice weasel from synaptic, will it mark the installed packages as manual or automatic like apt-get does so I can later use apt-get autoremove? Or does Synaptic have a way of doint autoremove itself? |
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| 09:53.19 | cnodell | A friend of mine would like to try linux. I would prefer to go with debian. While I have always used apt-get/apt-cache at the command line, he will need/want a gui front end. |
| 09:53.43 | petn-randall | cnodell: I'm sure that synaptic does the manual/automatic markings, too. I can't remember how it handles autoremoves, though. |
| 09:53.45 | cnodell | I am not all that knowledgeable about the various gui's though. |
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| 09:54.50 | petn-randall | cnodell: I've installed a few people in my circle of friends Ubuntu (without unity and those weird lenses), and if they got more interested, I offered them to install Debian. |
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| 09:55.53 | cnodell | I am also unaware of how well various package managers interact. I have heard that apt-get might or might not play well together and that one is preferred over the other. I have heard the same about synaptic versus apt-get/aptitude. |
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| 09:57.35 | cnodell | I have considered Ubuntu too but find myself worrying about upgrades. I trust Debian to handle upgrades from one version to another (or just rolling along with testing). I am not so sure about Ubuntu. I have had problems in the past when upgrading from one version to another after making changes to the software selection. |
| 09:58.42 | petn-randall | cnodell: The package managers all work on the same package installation information, so you can use them freely and interchangebly. Depending on the job, I either use apt-get or aptitude. Never had problems with interactions. |
| 09:58.43 | cnodell | I want the new guy to feel confident in updating his system as needed without doing fresh installs of calling for help. He also tends to prefer having fairly recent applications. |
| 09:59.51 | cnodell | Awesome. I have always found apt-get simple and easy to use but have always wondered about apptitude. Might try it knowing I will not make more work for myself later! |
| 10:00.04 | petn-randall | cnodell: He could always try Debian testing, but if he hasn't had any experience with Linux yet, it will be a rather steep learning curve. |
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| 10:01.38 | petn-randall | cnodell: Either you install him Debian, and give him a little advice on the side until he feels confident. If that's the case he can consider upgrading to testing. The other option would be to install Ubuntu, where the release cycles are a lot higher (every 6 months). |
| 10:02.47 | shomon | how do I export all messages from before a set date from an mbox file? |
| 10:03.02 | cnodell | You think so? I have always felt the main challenge of a Debian install was the install itself. Once past that I do not really feel one to be much more easy than the other... Maybe I have been using Linux too long to notice so much. Desensitized or some such. What do you think makes running Debian more challenging for a new comer? |
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| 10:06.16 | petn-randall | cnodell: The install is pretty straight forward IMO. I wouldn't personally install Ubuntu on my systems anymore (I have other tastes), but it does have newer software and you have the feeling that someone spent more time gearing the desktop towards "user experience" (for the better or the worse). |
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| 10:06.48 | petn-randall | cnodell: A few years ago I'd fully recommend Ubuntu for a novice, now I'm somewhere in the middle. |
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| 10:07.23 | cnodell | BTW, thanks for all the help! I have been running in circles on this. Right now I am leaning towards Linux Mint Debian Edition, Xubuntu or Debian. Having a hell of a time making a firm decision. I kind of miss the days when Ubuntu was the simple answer... |
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| 10:07.53 | cnodell | petn-randall: Same here. |
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| 10:11.37 | petn-randall | cnodell: I wouldn't recommend Mint since their support channel appears to be empty and you won't get support here (different distro). |
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| 10:14.28 | grn | I get a few hash sum mismatches when doing apt-get update. The failures were for files from ftp.pl.debian.org and cdn.debian.net. I've been experiencing them for a few days. Does anyone else experience similar problems? |
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| 10:16.46 | cnodell | Thanks again for the advice! |
| 10:16.50 | Kirito | I'm guessing packages marked "c" mean "corrupted", right? |
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| 10:17.28 | Kirito | Should I be concerned over their existence? I removed a repo before uninstalling packages by accident, and after removing them they were left behind even with the repository no longer being used |
| 10:17.48 | petn-randall | Kirito: 'c' mean 'config left', not corrupted. |
| 10:17.51 | Kirito | Oh. |
| 10:17.52 | petn-randall | s/mean/means/ |
| 10:18.02 | Kirito | Bad assumption on my part then :l |
| 10:18.17 | Kirito | Thanks |
| 10:18.23 | petn-randall | Kirito: apt handles that well if you remove a repo :) |
| 10:18.34 | joj | grn: happens to me when the mirror can't be read completely. if you use the CDN and are in Poland, I think you 're likely to get the same mirror you've been trying to avoid (pl.debian.org). Try setting a different mirror altogether, like de.debian.org? |
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| 10:19.56 | themill | dpkg: tell grn about http.debian.net |
| 10:20.12 | petn-randall | grn: That can happen if the mirror fails to update properly. If it persists for longer you should bring it up on the debian-mirrors mailing list. |
| 10:21.07 | grn | joj, de mirrors work corretly; what can I do about cdn.debian.net? I get iceweasel from there. |
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| 10:22.16 | joj | grn: the contents of the mirrors are the same; the cdn just resolves to a specific mirror in your proximity. you'll be completely fine if you set the de mirror for all of your repositories, it as all the packages. |
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| 10:28.34 | elios | i changed the vga cable with a dvi, and now i got a mix of 2 ttys with a hint of matrix when i switch from my wm to the tty. |
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| 10:30.41 | dskfl | hi, i'm using ssh -D 8080 "my_host" to setup socks5 forwarding for my browser through "my_host" and i can check it with netstat -tulpn and it shows that it's listening 127.0.0.1:8080 and ::1:8080. Now the thing works fine, my question is, if i'm inside a LAN can other pc in the same LAN use this? like if they access my ip and port 8080 can it do something? |
| 10:31.20 | dskfl | or is it listening just for the loopback and it's not visible for my ip |
| 10:32.31 | petn-randall | dskfl: that loopback is only accessible from the same device, not from the LAN. |
| 10:33.12 | dskfl | ok, so my socks5 forwarding is accessible only from my machine, right? |
| 10:33.29 | petn-randall | dskfl: yes |
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| 10:34.04 | dskfl | so i can't set up another browser in the same LAN with my ip and port 8080 so it can also forward through my ssh connection |
| 10:34.14 | dskfl | sorry for asking twice |
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| 10:35.42 | petn-randall | dskfl: If you want to do that, you'll have to bind ssh onto your LAN interface, or the wildcard 0.0.0.0. |
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| 10:36.27 | dskfl | like ssh -D 192.168.1.10:8080 host ? |
| 10:36.33 | dskfl | say 192.168.1.10 is my LAN ip |
| 10:37.19 | petn-randall | dskfl: For example. But then you couldn't access it with 127.0.0.1:8080 anymore. To do that, you can use 0.0.0.0, which is equivalent to binding it to all interfaces. |
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| 10:38.26 | dskfl | cool. So to wrap this up, if i don't specify an ip range or an ip when binding with -D option that means only loopback |
| 10:38.28 | ChrisH | dskfl: man ssh there is an extra flag to gateway ports; I assume thats what you are looking for |
| 10:39.32 | ChrisH | dskfl: from man ssh -D 8080 might also work |
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| 10:40.05 | dskfl | nope .. as i tried it -D 8080 only works for loopback |
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| 10:41.02 | dskfl | so this thing is pretty secure right? if someone tcpdump's my traffic it would be all ssh traffic for my browser (when it's configured with socks5) right? |
| 10:41.32 | dskfl | *too many "right?"* |
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| 10:44.00 | ChrisH | dskfl: dunno. I do only use ssh forwarding for port forwarding and use OpenVPN to tunnel my traffic |
| 10:44.13 | atari314 | Guys, have you ever seen something like this: sudo apt-get build-dep filezilla && apt-get source filezilla && cd filezilla-3.5.3/ && dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b, which compiles fine and create the .deb files, but there's no filezilla bin inside them. |
| 10:44.48 | dskfl | this is quicker.. and i guess it's as much as secure as ssh is |
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| 10:46.38 | grn | themill, thanks for explanations |
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| 10:49.59 | dskfl | but man .. ssh is eating a lot of my dialup |
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| 10:55.09 | colo-work | package "nagios-plugins-standard" from wheezy says in its description that it includes the "check_linux_raid" plugin; that's apparently not the case |
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| 10:56.51 | bal | colo-work: you can fiind that on the internet, which RAID do you have to check, hardware or software ? |
| 10:57.16 | colo-work | bal, apparently, nagios-plugins-contrib contains a suitable plugin |
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| 10:57.36 | bal | colo-work: oh, ok than |
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| 11:02.14 | Okitain | Hi guys. Anyone has a guide to hybrid AMD graphics? |
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| 11:11.00 | maasha | My server was banned from the Uni network because it was harvesting all DHCP leases. Now I have factory reset iDRAC and purged the dhcp-client and the server is back online. How can I monitor that it behaves? |
| 11:11.58 | maasha | Funny thing is that it has been running with static IP for quite some time now with no problems, and that DHCP was not configured anywhere. |
| 11:12.04 | petn-randall | maasha: If there's no dhclient, there's nothing to monitor. |
| 11:12.13 | ChrisH | maasha: Was it the iDRAC or the OS requesting DHCP leases? |
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| 11:12.44 | maasha | petn-randall: Right. Could it be some firewall issue? I am using some basic iptables firewall created with firewall builder. |
| 11:13.28 | maasha | ChrisH: I would like to know, however, I am not allowed to experiment. Server is closed to being blacklisted as is. |
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| 11:14.28 | cdunklau | I have Intel Haswell integrated graphics, and gnome-shell is failing to start, it's falling back to classic gnome (i think). what packages should i use from backports? I've already obtained linux 3.12, but i was hoping for some idea of what other packages I should get |
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| 11:17.34 | saivert | cdunklau: newer xf86-video-intel package? |
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| 11:20.04 | ChrisH | maasha: yes, but... as long as you do not know if its the OS or the LOM, how do you want to monitor? And from my understanding should a DHCP Server assign the same IP to the same MAC every thime the client requests an IP. Harvesting an IP sounds like modifying the MAC |
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| 11:21.13 | maasha | ChrisH: I am pretty much blank here. All suggestions welcome. |
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| 11:23.01 | ChrisH | maasha: My suggestion, get in close touch with the network admin and show them you are willing to make it not happen again. Ask them which MAC did request all the IPs. Addionally Check the OS logs for dhcp lines. |
| 11:23.18 | cdunklau | saivert: i'm not seeing that package |
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| 11:24.11 | cdunklau | saivert: i see libxxf86 stuff, but that appears to be direct graphics access extension library, and i'm not really sure what that means |
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| 11:24.39 | cdunklau | perhaps xserver-xorg-video-intel? |
| 11:24.46 | petn-randall | maasha: I'm with ChrisH on this. If you want to investigate the cause, ask the NOC how this happened, and let them provide debug info. |
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| 11:27.46 | maasha | ChrisH: petn-randall from syslog: http://pastebin.com/QjDXfuEn - suspicious ... |
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| 11:30.09 | petn-randall | maasha: Can you paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces? Use http://paste.debian.net, this doesn't need javascript to display, amongst other things. |
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| 11:31.05 | maasha | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/80257/ |
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| 11:31.27 | maasha | by the book :o) - that is the debian network wiki |
| 11:32.34 | maasha | petn-randall: of cause that setup has been fiddled with. I have also at some point configured eth1 to a static IP in a similar way. |
| 11:33.57 | maasha | petn-randall: and DCHP - which could explain the syslog. But that was for debugging purposes - there have been a major network upgrade here friday where "they" zapped by static IPs. |
| 11:34.07 | maasha | s/by/my |
| 11:34.31 | petn-randall | maasha: If you have network-manager, that will try to configure eth1 via dhcp since that isn't configured in 'interfaces'. Do you have network-manager installed? |
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| 11:35.01 | maasha | petn-randall: I had. I purged it. |
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| 11:35.26 | maasha | petn-randall: right. so NM could be the culprit. |
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| 11:36.03 | petn-randall | maasha: Could be, though I'm still wondering how it could allocate all IPs. It must've ignored any replies, and cycled through different MAC addresses all the time. |
| 11:36.30 | maasha | petn-randall: but still - harvesting all DHCP leases ... argh, you beat me. |
| 11:36.33 | ChrisH | maasha: question: you spoke on server and now wit NM in place? |
| 11:37.00 | maasha | petn-randall: NM in combo with iptables? Is there some client/server dhcp handshake that could be blocked? |
| 11:37.52 | maasha | ChrisH: NM is purged since Feb 3, so the old log messages may be from NM ruling the DHCP. |
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| 11:38.11 | petn-randall | maasha: If you blocked incoming DHCP, yes. |
| 11:38.39 | maasha | petn-randall: if I blocked incoming DHCP I would never get a IP, but I did. |
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| 11:40.04 | petn-randall | maasha: The log shows endless lines of requests, so no idea how that worked. Maybe a faulty network cable? |
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| 11:40.43 | maasha | petn-randall: could that be the explanation of all this? |
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| 11:41.43 | maasha | One cable looks pretty abused |
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| 11:44.58 | ChrisH | maasha: have the cable replaced or replace it yourself... depending on who is allowed to do it. |
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| 11:45.14 | maasha | ChrisH: I will get a couple of new cables. |
| 11:45.41 | maasha | petn-randall: ChrisH this is from the syslog Feb 3: http://paste.debian.net/80259/ |
| 11:46.14 | maasha | what is iptables doing? |
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| 11:46.31 | petn-randall | maasha: Well, if the DHCP request went out fine, but the DHCP offer came back garbled, it would ask again. |
| 11:46.39 | g105b | How do I get a script to run when the OS boots? |
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| 11:47.02 | petn-randall | g105b: You can put it in /etc/rc.local. By default it will be run as root though. |
| 11:47.17 | g105b | that's fine, I live on the edge. |
| 11:47.22 | Rubas | petn-randall: how to run it as a user? |
| 11:47.30 | Rubas | petn-randall: is it possible I mean |
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| 11:49.21 | ChrisH | maasha: thats multicast and should not be related to DHCP |
| 11:49.43 | dFence | aalrighty... project "hide my ass" continues. I'd like to be able to set up a secure proxy to encrypt my outgoing browser traffic and route it through my server (pretty similar to the tor-proxys) - can anyone give me a pointer where to start? |
| 11:50.37 | bhuddah | dFence: i just use a ssh-tunnel and a local squid proxy on my server. then i redirect the browser to that squid. |
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| 11:51.13 | dFence | bhuddah: tunneling is not possible (client is a windows-machine and I have no admin-privs) |
| 11:51.35 | bhuddah | dFence: you don't need admin for a tunnel in putty |
| 11:51.36 | dFence | neither is torbrowser, b/c some sites go nuts if the country of origin changes too often |
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| 11:54.13 | dFence | bhuddah: MUAAAAAHAHAHAAAA |
| 11:54.29 | dFence | thanks a lot :) didn't think it would be that easy |
| 11:54.32 | bhuddah | o0 |
| 11:54.35 | bhuddah | ^^ |
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| 11:55.19 | bhuddah | dFence: for enhanced quality it is best to move your ssh server to port 443 if you haven't already done that. |
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| 11:57.49 | nkuttler | bhuddah: that will secure your httpd, yeah |
| 11:58.37 | bhuddah | nkuttler: and it will make it possible to connect to your ssh through proxies that allow connect() |
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| 11:59.13 | dFence | bhuddah: Won't the squid get freaky with the apache? |
| 11:59.15 | petn-randall | Rubas: Check the man page to 'su', you will find your answer there. |
| 11:59.37 | bhuddah | dFence: how do you mean that? |
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| 12:00.14 | dFence | bhuddah: I have an apache sitting on https on the same machine |
| 12:00.58 | bhuddah | dFence: oh. then you'll need multiple IPs... |
| 12:01.15 | dFence | bhuddah: nope, not possible |
| 12:01.26 | dFence | bhuddah: or.. well... costs extra. and I'm cheap :) |
| 12:01.30 | bhuddah | or you can try 444. or 8080 as alternatives. most proxies let some of them though. or 8443 |
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| 12:02.14 | dFence | bhuddah: it's just a crutch so I can get stuff securely out of work, so it doesn't need to be _that_ flexible :) |
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| 12:02.48 | bhuddah | dFence: hehe. i use that crutch too, as you might have suspected. and i sometimes need to adapt it quickly ^^ |
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| 12:03.30 | nkuttler | dFence: er, if your employer makes it hard to get data out.. maybe they don't want you to? |
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| 12:04.22 | bhuddah | never trust your employer. |
| 12:04.45 | dFence | nkuttler: "data out" in the most general sense. There have been cases where they reset the domain-passwords, gained access to someone's account and merrily read through their personal emails etc (saved passwords >_<) |
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| 12:05.42 | dFence | I don't think they're that tech-savy to monitor outgoing traffic, but still - better shave than sorry |
| 12:05.46 | nkuttler | personal emails in your work environment? |
| 12:05.49 | nkuttler | anyway.. |
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| 12:06.08 | dFence | nkuttler: I do have a life. |
| 12:06.43 | nkuttler | and still a job. good luck |
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| 12:08.20 | dFence | hehe well, my contract allows me to do personal stuff - it's just that it's none of their busines WHAT that stuff is :) |
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| 12:14.07 | ChrisH | dFence: which contry are you living in? Reading someones personal email is not allowed if your employer allows private use of company email system... at least in th EU |
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| 12:16.06 | dFence | ChrisH: UK |
| 12:16.27 | nkuttler | ChrisH: how do you know it's personal without reading it though? |
| 12:16.29 | dFence | ChrisH: of course it's not allowed, and if I were my colleague I'd sue their cheap asses... |
| 12:17.11 | ChrisH | nkuttler: IF the private use is allowed THEN its private Mail and not allowed to be read by someone else. |
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| 12:18.02 | ChrisH | nkuttler: IF private use is forbidden, THEN it's company mail and _may_ be checked,read, answered by company staff. |
| 12:18.03 | nkuttler | so if your employer allows you to send/receive private mails on the company account they can't read any of the work emails? |
| 12:18.31 | ChrisH | nkuttler: yes. Thats the way I understood it. |
| 12:18.34 | nkuttler | meh, employess.. what a pita |
| 12:18.44 | GreyMist | hello, i have got two graphics cards (intel and nVidia) how can i install drivers for both of them? I really don't like MESA ;/ Or when can i ask for that if not here? :) |
| 12:18.52 | nkuttler | ChrisH: well, it makes sense in some twisted way i guess :) |
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| 12:22.46 | ChrisH | nkuttler: For team matters you will use team aliases or ticket systems. So no need to read someones mail. |
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| 12:28.59 | dFence | why would you want to read anyone else's mail in the first place!? |
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| 12:29.53 | Edward` | hi |
| 12:29.57 | ChrisH | because a customer did send a order to a sales person and that persin is on holiday or ill. But we are getting more offtopic here |
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| 12:30.22 | Edward` | What happens if I install the debian netinst image, but don't have internet? |
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| 12:30.46 | petn-randall | Edward`: You'll end up with a minimal system. |
| 12:31.05 | Edward` | petn-randall: what does it consist of? does it have gnome at least? |
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| 12:31.09 | dFence | Edward`: you'll end up with something pretty much resembling a toaster - minimum functionality |
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| 12:31.40 | petn-randall | Edward`: No, if you want that, you'll need to download the CDs/DVDs. Minimal means you'll end with a terminal prompt. |
| 12:31.44 | g00se | How is it possible to determine the 'manufacturers' version of package X in stable? e.g. flashplugin-nonfree |
| 12:32.21 | Edward` | I see, thanks alot. |
| 12:32.21 | petn-randall | g00se: It's usually the version number up to the first '-'. |
| 12:32.31 | cdunklau | woooh fantastic. dist-upgraded to jessie and everything works now :/ |
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| 12:32.51 | Rubas | petn-randall: thanks for the man info |
| 12:33.04 | petn-randall | Rubas: You're welcome! |
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| 12:33.39 | g00se | petn-randall: "Installed: 1:3.2" I don't see a hyphen |
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| 12:34.31 | g00se | Flash 12.0.0.44 has a Linux vuln |
| 12:34.47 | themill | g00se: flashplugin-nonfree is a download script. "Version" has a difficult meaning there. |
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| 12:35.02 | g00se | Ah OK |
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| 12:35.29 | Rubas | Can I have multiple connections to a IRC Bouncer, on the same account? So I can chat from 2 different devices, from the same user? |
| 12:35.34 | themill | g00se: you are presumably looking for «update-flashplugin-nonfree --install» |
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| 12:37.55 | g00se | themill: I'm just trying to correlate version numbers |
| 12:38.02 | Edward` | http://puu.sh/6KMp7.png any idea what's wrong? trying to boot jessie in a VM |
| 12:39.39 | petn-randall | ,v flashplugin-nonfree |
| 12:39.40 | judd | Package: flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2+squeeze1; wheezy/contrib: 1:3.2; jessie/contrib: 1:3.4; sid/contrib: 1:3.4 |
| 12:40.57 | petn-randall | g00se: flashplugin-nonfree is an exception since it doesn't contain the plugin for copyright reasons, but it just a download helper. You'll have to look into the changelog to see what version it will download. |
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| 12:42.07 | g00se | themill: If i actually *did* that and it 'worked' i might even end up with the very version with the vuln, though i'd be a little surprised if a later version than i've got has the vuln and mine doesn't |
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| 12:43.29 | g00se | petn-randall: Actually in this case, a simple workaround is to run it and check the version thereby. In my case it's 11.2.202.332 |
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| 12:47.55 | audio88 | So it finally happened, after >5 years uptime my raid 1 failed. But I'm still hoping it might be a software error, because the raid with the boot partition did not fail, only the one where i keep the data. however, they both reside on the same disks |
| 12:49.03 | audio88 | this is the mdadm output: http://paste2.org/HJKCMNOw What should I do next? Right now, the system is not really usable. Even commands like ls simply segfault |
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| 12:53.32 | audio88 | as i said, md0 and md1 reside on the same disks, but only md1 is faulty. so i was hoping this might be a software error and md1 could be repared. |
| 12:53.34 | frostschutz | audio88, both raid are running, if you see errors, what's in dmesg? |
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| 12:53.54 | colo-work | audio88, #linux-raid |
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| 12:54.42 | audio88 | frostschutz, thanks, i'll look and then take my question where colo-work suggested :) |
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| 12:56.14 | audio88 | frostschutz: fwiw, i can't even read /var/log/messages and dmesg dies with input/output error |
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| 13:01.09 | lancelot_of | hi there |
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| 13:01.56 | lancelot_of | is there any way to install only one package from testing without upgrading all the available packages? |
| 13:02.08 | lancelot_of | i'd like to upgrade only i3 |
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| 13:02.41 | lancelot_of | but i don't want to upgrade all 147 proposed upgradeble packages |
| 13:03.01 | themill | ,v i3 --release wheezy-backports |
| 13:03.02 | judd | Package: i3 on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 4.7.2-1~bpo70+1 |
| 13:03.05 | themill | dpkg: tell lancelot_of about wheezy-backprots |
| 13:03.08 | themill | dpkg: tell lancelot_of about wheezy-backports |
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| 13:03.59 | maxorator | I have a debian 7.3 box, when I compile something on it, it references only glibc 2.2.5, yet I have 2.13.1 installed |
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| 13:04.14 | maxorator | this is actually good behaviour, but I'm wondering how this is achieved |
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| 13:04.35 | themill | maxorator: versioned symbols |
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| 13:05.13 | maxorator | yes, but on other distros when I have the same package version installed, it references different versions for the same functions |
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| 13:05.46 | maxorator | if I compile the same code on ubuntu, I get references to 2.3.4 and 2.7 too |
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| 13:06.14 | themill | you can get architecture- and compiler-specific behaviour too |
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| 13:06.37 | maxorator | both are x86-64 gcc |
| 13:06.50 | maxorator | although gcc versions probably differ |
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| 13:07.42 | themill | and different default compile flags on gcc too |
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| 13:08.29 | maxorator | so there is a gcc flag to forbid it from linking to newer versions? |
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| 13:09.22 | afsal | why system takes more time to login |
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| 13:11.22 | ChrisH | afsal: how do you login? via ssh or into a DE or ... |
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| 13:12.07 | afsal | no in my lap , after entering the password and it takes some seconds to show desktop |
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| 13:12.30 | lancelot_of | themill, but there's not i3 in backports |
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| 13:12.38 | themill | lancelot_of: but there is |
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| 13:12.55 | themill | (as judd just showed) |
| 13:13.31 | themill | maxorator: not that I know of, but these are all variations that lead to different behaviour (like memcpy/memmove changes a year or so ago) |
| 13:13.56 | noname | someone knows about PAM? |
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| 13:15.35 | lancelot_of | themill, in testing i3 version is 4.7.2-1, in backports 4.2.2 |
| 13:15.39 | gregc2 | does anyone know any good isc dhcp web page managment software? I tried phpDHCPAdmin but its so horribly broken.... any help would be appreciated. |
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| 13:16.16 | themill | lancelot_of: what release of debian are you running? |
| 13:16.22 | lancelot_of | themill, wheezy |
| 13:16.44 | noname | when use, keep all the PHPAdmin stuff in your eye, lot of bruteforce are shoot against |
| 13:17.03 | themill | lancelot_of: perhaps you could pastebin your sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy i3; apt-cache policy" for us then. 4.7.2 is definitely in backports... |
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| 13:17.45 | lancelot_of | themill, http://paste.debian.net/80267/ |
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| 13:20.02 | noname | someone knows about PAM Exploit, when many maxlogin attemps reached? |
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| 13:22.08 | lancelot_of | themill, http://paste.debian.net/80268/ |
| 13:22.40 | themill | lancelot_of: so check lines 5/6 of your paste |
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| 13:23.35 | lancelot_of | themill, i see, but i cannot install that version through apt-get install, it still installs 4.2-2 |
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| 13:24.06 | themill | lancelot_of: did you follow the instructions on backports.debian.org? |
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| 13:25.16 | maxorator | themill, anyway I'm wondering how debian 7.3 manage to link only against 2.2.5, because I'd like to reproduce whatever config that causes it on some other machines |
| 13:25.59 | lancelot_of | ok themill thanks a lot! |
| 13:26.00 | maxorator | all the solutions I could google for linking against older glibc versions are ugly hacks and on debian, it just works the way I want it to |
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| 13:37.28 | RickyB98 | i'm using a bot on a shell that executes the command "mail -s etc." it was fast at the beginning, but it's getting slower now, after i updated debian, it takes years to send an email. how comes? any way i can make it faster? |
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| 13:39.03 | gregc2 | Check the mail log to see whats going on with the message. maybe a queue is stuck |
| 13:39.12 | gregc2 | or its being relayed wrong or something |
| 13:39.26 | RickyB98 | gregc2, how can i do that? |
| 13:39.45 | RickyB98 | since i'm a bit noob, if you could spoonfeed me :P |
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| 13:39.48 | gregc2 | tail -f /var/log/mail.log and run your mail command from the bot... it will output the email |
| 13:39.52 | gregc2 | info |
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| 13:40.58 | RickyB98 | tail: cannot open `/var/log/mail.log' for reading: Permission denied |
| 13:40.59 | RickyB98 | use sudo? |
| 13:41.13 | gregc2 | yes |
| 13:42.15 | RickyB98 | so i don't have to wait for any output? |
| 13:42.17 | RickyB98 | js send my email? |
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| 13:42.43 | gregc2 | when you tail your mail log, re run your bot command that mails |
| 13:42.55 | gregc2 | you will then see the info for that message in the tail |
| 13:43.02 | gregc2 | a normal email processing looks like |
| 13:43.18 | gregc2 | Feb 5 08:35:03 NRFVWEB1 sm-mta[32569]: s15DZ3cg032567: to=<briano@domain.com>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=120874, relay=rosie.domain. |
| 13:43.18 | gregc2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.41 | gregc2 | if it gets deferred or anything else other than an OK... then somethings up with your MTA |
| 13:43.48 | gregc2 | and you will have to figure out why |
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| 13:45.08 | RickyB98 | okay |
| 13:45.13 | RickyB98 | it took 1 minute to send the email |
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| 13:45.18 | RickyB98 | but the problem is |
| 13:45.22 | gregc2 | yes? |
| 13:45.23 | RickyB98 | that i can't see anything in tail |
| 13:45.49 | gregc2 | what mta are you using |
| 13:46.09 | RickyB98 | mta? |
| 13:46.24 | gregc2 | mail transfer agent... IE exim, sendmail, nullmailer. postfix |
| 13:46.25 | gregc2 | etc |
| 13:46.29 | RickyB98 | sendmail |
| 13:46.31 | RickyB98 | i do |
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| 13:46.32 | gregc2 | yeah |
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| 13:46.36 | gregc2 | then you arent emailing out |
| 13:46.40 | RickyB98 | mail -s "subject" < file |
| 13:46.43 | gregc2 | if you dont see anything in mail log |
| 13:46.48 | RickyB98 | but the mail arrived |
| 13:46.55 | gregc2 | hmm |
| 13:47.05 | gregc2 | this is semi new debian system? |
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| 13:47.13 | gregc2 | wheezy or? |
| 13:47.14 | RickyB98 | semi new? |
| 13:47.17 | RickyB98 | nono, pure debian |
| 13:47.21 | RickyB98 | with manually installed packages |
| 13:47.22 | gregc2 | yeah what issue of debian |
| 13:47.30 | RickyB98 | idk this.. |
| 13:47.30 | gregc2 | wheezy? |
| 13:47.34 | gregc2 | cat /etc/issue |
| 13:47.36 | gregc2 | will tell you |
| 13:47.36 | RickyB98 | how can i check? |
| 13:47.39 | RickyB98 | ah |
| 13:47.53 | RickyB98 | Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 \n \l |
| 13:48.14 | gregc2 | yeah thats semi new.... latest version is 7.3 if its not in your mail.log in /var/log then something is funky with your send mail conf... |
| 13:48.31 | gregc2 | 7.0 should dump out to /var/log/mail.log |
| 13:48.32 | RickyB98 | my main problem is the time |
| 13:48.37 | RickyB98 | idk why it takes so much |
| 13:48.47 | gregc2 | 1 minute isnt a long time to send an email...... |
| 13:48.56 | RickyB98 | it was 5 secs at the beginning |
| 13:48.58 | RickyB98 | e.e |
| 13:49.07 | gregc2 | type mailq |
| 13:49.12 | gregc2 | pastebin the results |
| 13:49.33 | RickyB98 | ok |
| 13:49.36 | gregc2 | depending on where your end email address is you have to wait |
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| 13:49.39 | gregc2 | on the other mail server |
| 13:49.47 | gregc2 | if its another internal mail server..... |
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| 13:49.55 | gregc2 | then it should be very quick |
| 13:50.08 | RickyB98 | it's still at MSP Queue status |
| 13:50.12 | gregc2 | all depends... google processes mail when they damn well please... ive had an email take 10-20 mins |
| 13:50.20 | gregc2 | yeah just hung there? |
| 13:50.31 | RickyB98 | i'm keeping on waiting ^^ |
| 13:50.35 | gregc2 | sounds like you got a big queue you need to clean then that might be your issue |
| 13:51.35 | RickyB98 | MSP Queue status... |
| 13:51.36 | RickyB98 | /var/spool/mqueue-client is empty |
| 13:51.36 | RickyB98 | Total requests: 0 |
| 13:51.36 | RickyB98 | MTA Queue status... |
| 13:51.36 | RickyB98 | /var/spool/mqueue is empty |
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| 13:51.38 | RickyB98 | Total requests: 0 |
| 13:51.42 | RickyB98 | oups |
| 13:51.46 | gregc2 | paste bin... |
| 13:51.48 | RickyB98 | could you see all of it? |
| 13:51.51 | RickyB98 | i know, sorry |
| 13:52.07 | gregc2 | there appears to be an empty queue |
| 13:52.08 | RickyB98 | http://pastebin.com/ZgePGjbp |
| 13:52.22 | gregc2 | that is interesting then.... |
| 13:52.29 | RickyB98 | yeah, it is.. |
| 13:53.32 | gregc2 | id check out send mail a little more... sounds like something is totally screwed up... esp if you arent logging |
| 13:53.42 | RickyB98 | yeah |
| 13:53.45 | gregc2 | try out a different mta |
| 13:53.47 | macsim | hi, i got a wierd problem with icmp http://pastebin.com/VpJ1catW 1st time I see that |
| 13:53.49 | gregc2 | like postfix |
| 13:53.52 | gregc2 | or exim |
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| 13:53.54 | gregc2 | or nullmailer |
| 13:53.59 | RickyB98 | consider i manually installed it through #apt-get install sendmail |
| 13:54.02 | gregc2 | do you relay? |
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| 13:54.09 | RickyB98 | relay? what's that? |
| 13:54.20 | themill | (why would you pick sendmail?) |
| 13:54.36 | gregc2 | we are all sendmail at our work.... i tried to get them to change |
| 13:54.36 | RickyB98 | themill, always used that, since it was default on installation |
| 13:54.53 | gregc2 | mail servers can relay the message to other mail servers |
| 13:55.01 | themill | RickyB98: sendmail is not the default in debian |
| 13:55.04 | gregc2 | without more logging youre stuck.... you need to get logging working |
| 13:55.07 | gregc2 | exim is |
| 13:55.11 | gregc2 | iirc |
| 13:55.12 | RickyB98 | themill, when i installed it via the cd, it was.. |
| 13:55.21 | RickyB98 | gregc2, yeah.. |
| 13:55.30 | gregc2 | those are your next steps |
| 13:55.35 | themill | RickyB98: no, exim has been the default since 1997. |
| 13:55.35 | RickyB98 | what it could also be.. |
| 13:55.38 | gregc2 | mailq shouldnt take a long time either... |
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| 13:55.46 | RickyB98 | is that |
| 13:55.51 | RickyB98 | the bot sends the mail fastly |
| 13:55.55 | gregc2 | its going to be your mta.... |
| 13:56.00 | RickyB98 | but then has to execute other heavy procs.. |
| 13:56.11 | RickyB98 | but that's still strange... |
| 13:56.36 | gregc2 | thats fine..... and all but once you send a message the mta picks it up... assuming your box was loaded up to 4.0 in top it should still send quickly |
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| 13:56.53 | gregc2 | is the message large? |
| 13:56.55 | RickyB98 | idk what to think.. |
| 13:57.03 | RickyB98 | noooo that's just a few lines of text |
| 13:57.06 | gregc2 | yeah |
| 13:57.11 | gregc2 | then you need to investigate your mta |
| 13:57.21 | RickyB98 | omg i don't know anything about that |
| 13:57.31 | zaggynl | Heya, I'm installing debian 7.3.0 on an e7440 laptop, doesn't detect the network card |
| 13:57.46 | gregc2 | RickyB98, there is always time to learn :-) |
| 13:57.47 | zaggynl | should I just install and activate backports or something? |
| 13:57.51 | RickyB98 | right.. xD |
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| 13:58.03 | gregc2 | what card zaggynl |
| 13:58.13 | zaggynl | lspci output: (typing) |
| 13:58.13 | gregc2 | whats dmesg say |
| 13:58.16 | gregc2 | rgr |
| 13:58.16 | RickyB98 | themill, what's the command to execute exim? |
| 13:58.27 | zaggynl | intel corporation device 155a (rev 04) |
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| 13:59.19 | gregc2 | got a chipset ? |
| 13:59.40 | gregc2 | model? |
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| 14:00.05 | gregc2 | RickyB98, the same mail commands will execute... the same mail.. you just change the MTA that handles it |
| 14:00.14 | zaggynl | Dell Latitude E7440, looking through dmesg and lspci |
| 14:00.16 | gregc2 | apt-get install exim4 will install exim4 |
| 14:00.19 | RickyB98 | how could i do that? plz enlight me xD |
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| 14:00.30 | RickyB98 | ok, gonna try it |
| 14:00.33 | gregc2 | you may have to do a manual apt-get remove sendmail-bin |
| 14:00.38 | gregc2 | sometimes debian throws me that |
| 14:00.45 | gregc2 | then retry your apt-get install exim4 |
| 14:00.49 | RickyB98 | ok |
| 14:00.51 | RickyB98 | let's see |
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| 14:01.20 | RickyB98 | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 14:01.20 | RickyB98 | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 14:01.20 | RickyB98 | locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory << is this ok? |
| 14:01.33 | gregc2 | that is not ok... |
| 14:02.01 | RickyB98 | Package 'sendmail-bin' is not installed, so not removed |
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| 14:02.18 | gregc2 | apt-get remove sendmail |
| 14:02.23 | gregc2 | whats that do for you |
| 14:02.30 | RickyB98 | Package 'sendmail-bin' is not installed, so not removed |
| 14:02.35 | RickyB98 | this is what it does |
| 14:02.37 | RickyB98 | ah |
| 14:02.38 | gregc2 | ................................ |
| 14:02.39 | RickyB98 | without bin |
| 14:02.42 | RickyB98 | sry |
| 14:02.45 | abrotman | !enter |
| 14:02.45 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 14:02.59 | abrotman | installing exim would remove sendmail |
| 14:03.24 | RickyB98 | abrotman, what about the error message? |
| 14:03.33 | gregc2 | you have a locale issue on your box |
| 14:03.40 | gregc2 | that most likely is something else causing it |
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| 14:04.32 | d00N | I need help with the following situation: http://pastebin.com/STZypDBm I'm trying to install nginx, but it complains about libssl not being newer than 0.9.8, but as you can see in the paste, libssl is already installed and newer than that, yet the system still refuses to proceed |
| 14:04.35 | RickyB98 | :(... i don't know what to do... |
| 14:04.45 | gregc2 | RickyB98, i just handed you a solution |
| 14:04.47 | petn-randall | RickyB98: Read the /topic! Don't paste into the channel, or the bot will kick you for that. |
| 14:04.49 | gregc2 | ...... |
| 14:05.25 | RickyB98 | petn-randall, sorry, but i wouldn't use a pastebin for 2/3 lines |
| 14:05.32 | RickyB98 | gregc2, what's that? |
| 14:05.38 | gregc2 | go read what i told you |
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| 14:06.09 | gregc2 | goes and plays with his raspberry pi |
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| 14:06.35 | RickyB98 | gregc2, apt-get remove sendmail didn't work, apt-get install exim4 didn't work |
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| 14:06.39 | petn-randall | d00N: libssl0.9.8 isn't in wheezy anymore, just use the Debian packages instead of 3rd party ones. |
| 14:06.41 | RickyB98 | this is all you told me to do :P |
| 14:06.47 | gregc2 | what happened when you installed exim |
| 14:06.51 | gregc2 | you never pasted that |
| 14:07.23 | gregc2 | that locale issue? |
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| 14:07.47 | RickyB98 | http://pastebin.com/4agQBjum |
| 14:08.32 | petn-randall | RickyB98: Ehm it *did* work? You successfully installed exim4. |
| 14:08.41 | gregc2 | yeah |
| 14:08.46 | gregc2 | you installed exim4 |
| 14:08.52 | petn-randall | RickyB98: You can fix your locale problems with 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales'. |
| 14:08.55 | gregc2 | ... your perl locale is screwed |
| 14:08.57 | RickyB98 | oh great! :P |
| 14:08.59 | gregc2 | yep |
| 14:09.24 | gregc2 | ps aux www | grep exim to verify its running if you dont feel sure |
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| 14:10.11 | RickyB98 | gregc2, should i also write "ps" ? |
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| 14:10.30 | RickyB98 | ok, yes, it's running |
| 14:10.43 | d00N | petn-randall, that comes from the official nginx repo, the nginx version from stable debian repos is too ancient (1.2.1.2) |
| 14:10.49 | d00N | nginx is up to 1.4.x.x |
| 14:10.51 | gregc2 | assuming its confed correctly |
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| 14:11.09 | gregc2 | you should be all set..... and should have mail.log in /var/log/ outputting |
| 14:11.11 | gregc2 | so repeat your steps |
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| 14:11.33 | themill | dpkg: tell d00N about wheezy-backports |
| 14:11.47 | petn-randall | d00N: Well, the nginx is too ancient, it doesn't compile against the proper libssl and thus doesn't work with wheezy. What should I say? Nothing Debian can do about it if you don't want to install the Debian nginx. |
| 14:11.57 | gregc2 | tail the log.... resend the mail |
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| 14:12.58 | petn-randall | RickyB98: It's a good practice to actually know what the command do that people hand you. If you blindly run them, you might some day end up with one killing your system. A good starting point is 'man <command>', like 'man ps'. |
| 14:12.59 | gregc2 | yay my new logitec 6500s came today. finally a real mouse |
| 14:13.13 | zaggynl | meh, ill try testing |
| 14:13.21 | zaggynl | stable doesn't see cabled or wireless nic |
| 14:13.28 | RickyB98 | petn-randall, i trust gregc2 xD |
| 14:13.38 | RickyB98 | so gregc2, now i should re run the email stuff tailing it? |
| 14:13.48 | gregc2 | you shouldn't I am a bad man... |
| 14:13.48 | gregc2 | :-P |
| 14:13.51 | petn-randall | RickyB98: How well do you know him? |
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| 14:13.57 | gregc2 | yea tail the mail log |
| 14:14.04 | iateadonut | what kind of damage could i do by doubling the soft stack size limit (currently 8M)? |
| 14:14.07 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell zaggynl -about jessie |
| 14:14.11 | gregc2 | in his defense. I am awesome.... |
| 14:14.12 | gregc2 | so |
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| 14:14.39 | bea_ | i'm having terrible performance issues with and SSD. while copying a large file, the system becomes pretty much unusable - new applications (that are not in ram) stay blank for like 10 seconds, autocomplete of commands in terminal doesn't work, etc. is there some global fix that i have to do or is it a driver/firmware problem? |
| 14:15.07 | RickyB98 | ooooh waaay faster! |
| 14:15.18 | RickyB98 | still no logs.. but who cares at this point.. |
| 14:15.20 | gregc2 | yeah something is up with sendmail |
| 14:15.23 | gregc2 | then |
| 14:15.35 | gregc2 | that still doesnt sound right about logging tho |
| 14:15.39 | d00N | themill, thank you, I added the backport repo, apt-get update'd, but I'm still getting the same error message for trying to install nginx |
| 14:15.41 | petn-randall | bea_: Check /var/log/kern.log for any errors. You can also use 'atop' to check if your disk is hitting it's I/O limit. |
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| 14:15.57 | petn-randall | d00N: You have to remove the broken version from nginx. |
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| 14:16.37 | RickyB98 | gregc2, could it be that the tail command is not right? :P |
| 14:16.42 | gregc2 | yeah |
| 14:16.54 | gregc2 | tail -f /var/log/mail.log should work tho |
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| 14:17.00 | gregc2 | if you copy and paste that |
| 14:17.15 | RickyB98 | well, the file /var/log/mail.log does exist, but with no lines |
| 14:17.19 | RickyB98 | i checked with pico |
| 14:17.24 | gregc2 | weird |
| 14:17.31 | gregc2 | i dont like that at all |
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| 14:18.03 | lattera | I just installed 13.10 server x86 in a vbox VM... I did `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` |
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| 14:18.27 | lattera | it looks like it's stuck on "Unpacking linux-headers-2.11.0-15-generic" |
| 14:18.45 | RickyB98 | how do i read an email from mail? |
| 14:18.46 | gregc2 | youre in the wrong channel lattera |
| 14:18.55 | lattera | gah, sorry |
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| 14:19.11 | lattera | haven't had my caffeine this morning |
| 14:19.18 | gregc2 | RickyB98, you mean on the local system |
| 14:19.21 | RickyB98 | yes |
| 14:19.23 | gregc2 | tell me about it lattera |
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| 14:19.35 | petn-randall | hands lattera a large latte. |
| 14:19.36 | MrFrood | RickyB98: by mail do you mean bsd-mailx? |
| 14:19.37 | RickyB98 | ok, "n" |
| 14:19.54 | RickyB98 | running "mail" |
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| 14:20.13 | gregc2 | yes sorry mail |
| 14:20.29 | gregc2 | playin with my brand new mouse. frigging thing even has weights i can put in it |
| 14:20.32 | gregc2 | ;-) |
| 14:20.34 | MrFrood | yeah that's either bsd-mailx (default) or heirloom-mailx (alternative) |
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| 14:21.07 | RickyB98 | gregc2, see notices |
| 14:21.16 | RickyB98 | there's a delivery failure.. |
| 14:21.23 | abrotman | !enter |
| 14:21.24 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 14:21.26 | d00N | petn-randall, I just purged it and tried to install again and I get the same error |
| 14:21.34 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 14:21.34 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 14:21.48 | gregc2 | you will want to reconf |
| 14:21.51 | gregc2 | exim |
| 14:21.54 | petn-randall | d00N: Paste the actual error, and any other info, see dpkg above ^^^^ |
| 14:21.55 | gregc2 | correctly |
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| 14:22.01 | abrotman | gregc2: stop with the fucking enter key .. |
| 14:22.10 | gregc2 | abrotman, shut the fuck up |
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| 14:22.37 | abrotman | gregc2: It makes it nearly impossible for people to follow what you're saying. You're all over the place. |
| 14:22.43 | abrotman | take a timeout please |
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| 14:22.58 | MrFrood | RickyB98: print "number" e.g. print 1 |
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| 14:23.29 | MrFrood | iirc you can abrevate print to just p |
| 14:23.43 | RickyB98 | gonna talk to gregc2 in private... |
| 14:24.12 | abrotman | We'd prefer you keep it in the channel. |
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| 14:25.18 | *** kick/#debian [gregc2!~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by abrotman (you should know better) |
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| 14:25.22 | MrFrood | RickyB98: and - ive just fired up mailx |
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| 14:25.24 | zaggynl | welp, testing throws gtk errors on gui installation, ill try the old installation then |
| 14:25.44 | RickyB98 | abrotman, impossible, you kickbanned him. |
| 14:25.55 | bea_ | petn-randall: no errors in kern.log, iotop says the copying process disk read alternates between 0 and 29 M/s, disk write is constant at 11 M/s, IO 99% |
| 14:26.16 | abrotman | RickyB98: Others here can help, and help you better |
| 14:26.32 | petn-randall | bea_: constant writes? Can you see which process does all those writes? |
| 14:26.37 | RickyB98 | mò, avita murì u.u (italians will understand me.) |
| 14:26.54 | MrFrood | RickyB98: in heirloom mailx just typing the message number works for me |
| 14:26.55 | bea_ | i am currently looking at https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization, which recommends smartctl to 'check for firmware issues', but it only says the device does not support smart |
| 14:27.06 | RickyB98 | abrotman, i won't trust anyone who kickbans someone because they're helping. |
| 14:27.20 | zaggynl | he wasn't kickbanned, he was muted I think |
| 14:27.32 | RickyB98 | * abrotman ha espulso (kick) gregc2 da #debian (you should know better) |
| 14:27.35 | d00N | petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/80285/ |
| 14:27.35 | bea_ | petn-randall: kio_file |
| 14:27.38 | MrFrood | z+ and z- to scroll through your messages if you have more than a screenfull |
| 14:27.52 | abrotman | RickyB98: He wasn't kickbanned because he was helping. |
| 14:28.09 | RickyB98 | abrotman, because he was using the enter key? -.- |
| 14:28.27 | zaggynl | oh right, missed that |
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| 14:28.48 | d00N | petn-randall, keep in mind that the output of the last two commands was done with all the stable repos commented in sources.list |
| 14:29.05 | romm | RickyB98: Yes, he's not the only preson in the channel. Spamming new lines makes it impossible for everyone else to talk here. |
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| 14:29.20 | bea_ | petn-randall: never mind kio, exactly the same with cp |
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| 14:29.38 | RickyB98 | romm, not true. but anyway, he was helping though, wasn't doing anything bad |
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| 14:30.07 | RickyB98 | your chan, do whatever you want |
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| 14:31.48 | petn-randall | d00N: You have to comment out the repository from nginx.org and run apt-get update, after that 'apt-get install nginx/wheezy-backports' should give you the backports nginx. |
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| 14:44.58 | bea_ | having odd SSD performance issues, update: switching to the deadline scheduler as recommended in https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization did not fix it, but the pattern makes no sense: while copying a large file, some actions (loading bash in konsole, autocomplete in bash, typing in run dialog) stall for about 10 seconds, while others (loading konsole, loading kate, was not in ram) happen instantly |
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| 14:46.29 | bea_ | how can kate load instantly, while bash stalls for 10 seconds? |
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| 14:47.17 | frostschutz | bea_, what if you have an open terminal, and run bash? does that take 10 seconds too? might be something weird in your bash profile |
| 14:47.36 | frostschutz | bea_, I use noop scheduler and disabled NCQ, that seems to give me the best performance, ymmv |
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| 14:47.53 | colo-work | bea_, what kernel version? how muc hram does your system habe? have you tweaked dirty_writeback in the mm subsystem? |
| 14:48.09 | colo-work | disabling NCQ is quite likely a mistake for recent-ish SSD hardware |
| 14:48.45 | frostschutz | is a 64gb crucial m4 recent-ish? |
| 14:48.48 | colo-work | you'll likely want the device's queue to be able to issue multiple I/Os in parallel |
| 14:49.00 | colo-work | frostschutz, it's a very decent SSD for sure. |
| 14:49.07 | colo-work | I'd say it is |
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| 14:50.16 | echo083 | hello |
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| 14:54.14 | iateadonut | i've got this error: libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found, and i'm running 2.13 |
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| 14:54.16 | iateadonut | on wheezy |
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| 14:54.44 | iateadonut | i hear if you try to upgrade, you may cause problems? |
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| 14:55.37 | joj | iateadonut: it might. |
| 14:55.46 | joj | dpkg: tell iateadonut about testing |
| 14:55.53 | joj | dpkg: tell iateadonut about unstable |
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| 14:57.18 | iateadonut | well, can i install a version of it and keep it quarantined only to be used for that single program? |
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| 14:59.01 | swulf-- | is there any way to configure debian jessie to boot with airplane mode ON? |
| 14:59.17 | joj | iateadonut: you can use debootstrap for this: https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
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| 14:59.53 | joj | iateadonut: and pull a libc and dependencies from another Debian branch without tainting your base system. |
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| 15:01.53 | iateadonut | joj, you are gentleman and a scholar |
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| 15:02.42 | Alpha-17 | hello, is there an easy way to install powernap on debian ? |
| 15:02.53 | joj | iateadonut: you give me too much credit (and are, of course, welcome ;-)) |
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| 15:14.06 | lex|work | does anyone know why on a fresh install, after upgrading to jessie, when I go to upgrade to sid, dpkg gives me error 1 on linux-image-3.12 every time? Any solution I have found online has not worked |
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| 15:16.58 | abrotman | lex|work: Can you pastebin the error? |
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| 15:18.18 | abrotman | lex|work: please use paste.debian.net |
| 15:20.07 | lex|work | I don't have any X on the machine, but the error is just as follows; Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.12-1-686-pae_3.12.9-1_i386.deb ; E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) < abrotman |
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| 15:25.25 | lex|work | happens on 2 machines, too |
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| 15:26.17 | phunyguy | my GLX seems to be broken. I uninstalled the Nvidia packages (installed from repo!), because I removed a problematic card, and opted to use the still-decent Intel HD4000 onboard. glxinfo | grep render shows "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0"." |
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| 15:27.18 | mati75 | phunyguy: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 15:27.23 | mati75 | phunyguy: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 15:27.44 | phunyguy | then reboot. |
| 15:27.46 | phunyguy | ok hang on |
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| 15:28.39 | phunyguy | I do not have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Just an empty xorg.conf.d directory which had some nvidia specific stuff |
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| 15:29.09 | phunyguy | and that package is already installed |
| 15:29.24 | phunyguy | mati75: ^^ |
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| 15:29.38 | mati75 | phunyguy: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx --reinstall |
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| 15:30.07 | phunyguy | k |
| 15:30.16 | phunyguy | brb reboot |
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| 15:30.45 | bea_ | frostschutz: it's not bash, it only stalls when i copy something, and then other things stall too. will try the other scheduler |
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| 15:30.55 | abrotman | lex|work: we need more details, that's not enough |
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| 15:32.22 | bea_ | colo-work: kernel is 3.2.0-4-amd64 , ram is 16G, i have tweaked nothing (except now the scheduler), this is a vanilla system |
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| 15:33.03 | wfq | hi guys |
| 15:33.03 | colo-work | bea_, you're probably accumulating too much data in dirty buffers and hit blocking writeback some time for some processes... |
| 15:33.05 | wfq | quick question |
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| 15:33.21 | wfq | where would you please place the java binaries in your path? |
| 15:33.29 | hhhhhhhh | hi, `apt-get install` is exploding on a new system: http://ix.io/akH |
| 15:33.37 | colo-work | bea_, check /proc/sys/vm/dirty_* and set values that make sense for your machine |
| 15:34.03 | colo-work | bea_, try echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio |
| 15:34.04 | echo083 | wfq, export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/<your version of java> |
| 15:34.04 | echo083 | export PATH=${PATH}:${JAVA_HOME}/bin |
| 15:34.06 | colo-work | for a start |
| 15:34.25 | colo-work | that will limit dirty bytes to ~160M before they get written out to disk |
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| 15:34.41 | lex|work | abrotman: what do you need? |
| 15:34.55 | wfq | echo083 thanks |
| 15:35.34 | echo083 | wfq, np |
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| 15:36.07 | bea_ | colo-work: tried that, no change. also, i must emphasize that the symptoms are weird: the shell was just unresponsive for about 10 seconds, and during that 10 seconds i fired up icedove (which i was sure was not yet in ram) without problems. |
| 15:36.17 | bea_ | but the problem is not limited to the shell either |
| 15:36.35 | colo-work | bea_, try installing the bpo kernel, and see if it fixes the problem |
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| 15:36.52 | colo-work | if your problem is I/O-related, the issue should get less of a problem with 3.12 and later |
| 15:37.37 | abrotman | lex|work: there should be lines above it that are broken |
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| 15:38.03 | lex|work | abrotman: I am attempting a fresh install now, so will get back to you? |
| 15:38.08 | bea_ | colo-work: will try. sure is weird though, i know from my private laptop what a stalling disk feels like, but this is somehow different |
| 15:38.56 | abrotman | okay |
| 15:39.04 | frostschutz | bea_, if you can reproduce the problem reliably, maybe strace would show what's it doing or waiting for |
| 15:39.10 | lex|work | I am not sure if I am doing the whole process correctly, I am doing as follows; Install stable7.3 from usb(firmware iso), change my sources to jessie, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade, then change sources from jessie to sid, and repeat that apt-get process. Is that corect method? |
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| 15:39.45 | frostschutz | bea_, also if you use discard mount option, try without |
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| 15:40.57 | RickyB98 | how about cleaning the quiet list a bit? e.e |
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| 15:43.41 | g0bl1n | hi, I need to have a Cron job with a date argument, but this doesn't seem to work: 01 23 * * * /tmp/script.sh $(date '+%C%y%m%d' -d "-2 days") |
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| 15:44.30 | g0bl1n | need it to run /tmp/script.sh 20140204 |
| 15:44.35 | g0bl1n | any hint ? |
| 15:45.13 | g0bl1n | tried /tmp/script.sh `date "+%C%y%m%d" -d "-2 days"` also |
| 15:45.27 | g0bl1n | but wont run on the cron job |
| 15:45.50 | abrotman | why not just have your script generate that at the top ? |
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| 15:46.13 | bea_ | frostschutz: YES thank you for strace! dolphin stalled at 'statfs("/mnt/raid"', which is the external volume from which i was copying the large file for testing purposes. a dir on that volume is part of the PATH, which explains why bash and krunner stalled. i couldn't figure out what dolphin, bash, and krunner had in common |
| 15:46.36 | g0bl1n | abrotman, the script is used for other calls, we can't change it |
| 15:46.38 | bea_ | that seemed so random i thought everything was affected |
| 15:47.49 | ChrisH | g0bl1n: 1. replace date with absolute path 2. do the same for all commands in /tmp/script.sh 3. a scrtipt in /tmp is no longer there, after a reboot |
| 15:48.32 | g0bl1n | ChrisH, yes, I was testing it in /tmp. I used algo /bin/date and didn't work |
| 15:48.58 | RickyB98 | how do i input ^C carachter in pico? the one you get when doing ctrl+c |
| 15:49.20 | ChrisH | g0bl1n: then start with a simple * * * * * touch /tmp/tester cron entry |
| 15:49.29 | bea_ | frostschutz, colo-work: thanks again both of you. so it turns out the other volume was the problem, plus the fact that PATH included something there affected a lot of applications |
| 15:49.32 | ChrisH | RickyB98: CTRL-V CTRL-C |
| 15:49.34 | abrotman | g0bl1n: this will be luanched from someone's crontab ? |
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| 15:49.49 | g0bl1n | abrotman, yes |
| 15:49.58 | RickyB98 | doesn't work ChrisH |
| 15:50.22 | abrotman | g0bl1n: can you put a foo=$(date stuff) at the top and pass that in ? |
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| 15:50.38 | ChrisH | RickyB98: Why do you need to enter CTRL-C? Is pico an editor? |
| 15:50.48 | RickyB98 | yes it is |
| 15:50.52 | RickyB98 | i need it for colors |
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| 15:51.07 | g0bl1n | ChrisH, this works: $(date -d "-2 days") |
| 15:51.18 | RickyB98 | some program reads that as a color, so like ^C05blah turns blah red when red by a program |
| 15:51.20 | g0bl1n | but this doesnt: $(date "+%C%y%m%d" -d "-2 days") |
| 15:51.47 | ChrisH | RickyB98: tried vi instead? |
| 15:51.52 | RickyB98 | noup |
| 15:51.54 | RickyB98 | let's c |
| 15:52.07 | RickyB98 | duh, vi is not installed |
| 15:52.09 | RickyB98 | .-. |
| 15:52.28 | g0bl1n | abrotman, can variables be used in cron ? |
| 15:52.33 | RickyB98 | pico reads that character, if i delete it, with one backspace, it deletes both ^ and C |
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| 15:53.23 | ChrisH | RickyB98: dunnot what you are exactly trying, but from my understanding its an ESC sequence to get color |
| 15:53.35 | RickyB98 | hmm yeah maybe... |
| 15:54.16 | RickyB98 | i was thinking about using ^C05text instead of \0035text |
| 15:54.56 | RickyB98 | the color is this |
| 15:54.59 | petn-randall | RickyB98, try to write your whole reply onto one line, otherwise it will be difficult to follow you, especially when this channel is more busy. |
| 15:55.20 | RickyB98 | petn-randall, it's just that sentences come in my mind after i already hit enter xD |
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| 15:56.10 | petn-randall | RickyB98: I know, it's just a matter of training. 1-2 lines is ok, but if you response is spread over 5+ lines, it's easy to miss important information. :) |
| 15:56.33 | RickyB98 | never spread to 5 lines though.. |
| 15:57.05 | petn-randall | RickyB98: Just saying, never implied you did. |
| 15:58.00 | RickyB98 | so you tell things to people just to advice them even if they use all 128 caracthers of an irc line? weird haha |
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| 16:02.21 | g0bl1n | can one see cron log errors ? |
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| 16:06.17 | Alpha-17 | does anyone know how to make a *.deb from powernap source (https://github.com/dustinkirkland/powernap) |
| 16:07.04 | Alpha-17 | it seems to be possible : there is a debian directory inside the project |
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| 16:09.39 | wols | Alpha-17: dpkg-buildpackage if it's properly made. worth a try |
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| 16:10.07 | sssilver | Hey guys, hope everyone's doing fabulous |
| 16:10.21 | sssilver | I'm thinking about purchasing a MacBook Pro. But I need to have zero problems with Debian on it |
| 16:10.22 | wfq | hi guys |
| 16:10.25 | sssilver | anyone has any experience? |
| 16:10.40 | wfq | gvfs-backend actually contains gvfs-smb doesn't it? |
| 16:11.02 | sssilver | zero problems = everything on the laptop works with its intended performance, and is stable. |
| 16:11.48 | colo-work | I'd like to set up a highly available postgresql cluster, using streaming replication and IP address failover, on Debian. is there anything other than pacemaker that would qualify to set up a system like that? |
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| 16:11.52 | wols | sssilver: heavily depends on the macbooks. they are all different. all of their wlan sucks and usually the newest ones are not linux compatible, thanks to broadcom. |
| 16:12.23 | sssilver | wols: uh oh |
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| 16:13.26 | phunyguy | mati75: that didn't work for me, sorry it took so long to get back. I do remember seeing something in the init text on startup about intel microcode and drm. |
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| 16:14.22 | phunyguy | mati75: [ 6.233492] [drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed |
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| 16:19.11 | Alpha-17 | wols: seems it is not properly made :/ |
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| 16:19.34 | phunyguy | if anyone else would like to help, I had an nvidia card that I removed, then removed the drivers I had installed from the repos. It hasn't been working since then. |
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| 16:20.52 | wols | what hasnt? and what videocard do you use now? |
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| 16:22.52 | mick_laptop | hi everyone. I just moved one hdd from one box to another, how can I figure out what module to modprobe to get the new NIC cards to work? |
| 16:23.00 | phunyguy | wols, intel HD 4000 onboard now, and GLX isn't working |
| 16:23.40 | vimel | mick_laptop: lspci -knn | grep -EiA2 net |
| 16:23.51 | mick_laptop | thanks! |
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| 16:23.56 | vimel | np. |
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| 16:24.52 | wols | phunyguy: check if the intel kms module is loaded and if mesa is the right one. also check via dpkg -l |grep nvidia if all packages are removed |
| 16:24.54 | lex|work | should one be using apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade , or simply apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 16:25.23 | wols | mick_laptop: probably nothing to modprobe. use /sbin/ifconfig -a to see what the new devicename(s) are |
| 16:25.31 | mick_laptop | hmm, it says that it is using e1000 and they are intel NICs |
| 16:25.44 | phunyguy | wols: with that list of packages from dpkg -l | grep nvidia, which ones are installed, how can I tell? |
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| 16:25.48 | phunyguy | ii? |
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| 16:26.33 | wols | phunyguy: lines starting with i are installed. with "r" are removed |
| 16:26.44 | phunyguy | what about rc? |
| 16:26.49 | mick_laptop | meh, started to work |
| 16:26.51 | phunyguy | or is that part of removed |
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| 16:26.58 | phunyguy | man there is still a lot of stuff installed |
| 16:27.09 | mick_laptop | `dhclient eth1` seemed to do it. |
| 16:27.11 | mick_laptop | thanks guys |
| 16:27.15 | wols | rc starts with "r" |
| 16:27.54 | wols | mick_laptop: if you want to make it use eth0 again, there is a file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ which controls this. probably starts with 70 |
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| 16:30.27 | g0bl1n | ok, on my notes had that the %'s need to be escaped with a slash. Now works fine. |
| 16:31.08 | g0bl1n | 01 23 * * * /tmp/script.sh $(/bin/date '+\%C\%y\%m\%d' -d "-2 days") |
| 16:31.22 | ghostlines | howdy, during my install I set / to be mounted on /dev/sdb and didn't specify any boot stuff at all. But for some reason the installer prefered /dev/sda to install the grub bootloader. So now bootloader is on /dev/sda and / is on sdb. Any tips on how I can safely correct this? |
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| 16:33.48 | phunyguy | wols: I owe you a tasty beverage of some sort. |
| 16:33.52 | phunyguy | \o/ |
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| 16:35.06 | Okee | Would someone mind walking me through debian stable's panic attack? It won't boot up, and I am getting lots of red flags. A day or two earlier nothing would connect out to the net. Except for dual booting with Windows XP, I don't have an explanation. I am running AMD64, the latest. |
| 16:36.18 | mtn | ghostlines: so what is your actual problem? having grub on sda shouldn't be a problem, even if / is on sdb |
| 16:36.33 | jhutchins | Okee: Does it still boot to XP? |
| 16:36.56 | Okee | jhutchins> Yes, XP is working fine. |
| 16:37.24 | dondelelcaro | Okee: what error messages are you seeing? |
| 16:37.33 | jhutchins | Okee: So the bootloader is ok. You need to tell us what happens when you try to boot to Debian. |
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| 16:38.17 | ghostlines | mtn I have a mismatched FTP and MBR partition warning because of it I 'think' |
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| 16:38.52 | mtn | ghostlines: please paste the error message to http://paste.debian.net and give me the link |
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| 16:40.42 | jhutchins | ghostlines: The bootloader needs to be on the MBR of the primary boot disk. That will usually be sda. Sometimes the disks are ordered differently by the installer than they are by the bootloader. |
| 16:40.44 | Okee | I am currently in the Debian Stable boot up screen, and it wasn't able to complete the boot. The following error messages are on my screen: 1) Debian_Stable_12: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e., without -a or -p options) fsck died with exit status 4; 2) An automatic files system check (fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A manual fsck must be performed, then the system restarted. The fsck should be performed in maintena |
| 16:40.45 | Okee | mode with the root filesystem [FAILed in read-only mode . . . . failed!; 3 [....] The root filesystem is currently mounted in read-only mode. A maintenance shell will now be started. After performing system maintenance, press CONTROL-D to terminate the maintenance shell and rester th [wartem. ... (warning). |
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| 16:41.41 | jhutchins | Okee: Does it say which partition? |
| 16:41.52 | abrotman | it does say root filesystem |
| 16:42.44 | jhutchins | Okee: Which is the root partition? |
| 16:43.02 | Okee | jhutchins> Yes, before the 1st error typed above, the following message appears: Debian_Stable_12 contains a file system with errors, check forced. Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. |
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| 16:44.44 | jhutchins | Okee: You need to run fsck -y /dev/sda1 (or whatever) unless you know how to repair that kind of error manually. |
| 16:45.00 | Okee | jhutchins> Do you mean root for Linux? I think Windows XP and Linux are both sharing the same drive, but in different partitions. Also, have two backup drives: one is for storage of programs and data backup, 2) the other drive is for Centos. |
| 16:45.21 | jhutchins | Okee: Once you clear the error and reboot, you will want to install smartmontools and watch your logs for errors on the disk. |
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| 16:45.43 | Okee | jhutchins> OK, thanks for your help. It is greatly appreciated. I will run the fsck now. |
| 16:45.46 | ghostlines | mtn here ya go http://paste.debian.net/80297/ |
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| 16:46.03 | jhutchins | Okee: The error message looks like the problem is with the partition that mounts as / |
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| 16:46.42 | mtn | ghostlines: what did you do to get this error message? what command or program? |
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| 16:47.58 | Okee | jhutchins> Hm. Now I am getting an error "no sch file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1" |
| 16:48.19 | lex|work | abrotman: what would you like me to pastebin? the complete output of when I run apt-get upgrade? |
| 16:48.43 | nimbiotics | Last night I tried installing compiz on my wheezy machine. It went wrong , and upon rebooting I had no GUI. After lots of attempts I was finally able to install gnome again, but it just doesn't look the same. The background keeps getting "dirty". I cannot use Alt-Tab to switch among running apps, some fonts have changed or just dont exist anymore ... even the Files app has a different look... |
| 16:48.45 | nimbiotics | ...and feel. Is there a way I can have gnome go back the its OOB state? TIA! |
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| 16:49.17 | ghostlines | mtn gdisk |
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| 16:49.40 | mtn | ghostlines: does debian boot up ok and run ok? |
| 16:49.50 | ghostlines | yep |
| 16:50.17 | ghostlines | but I'm scared I might lose data later |
| 16:50.29 | mtn | ghostlines: as far as I know this will not be a problem, but I am not really an expert with this problem. maybe someone else will help further. |
| 16:50.36 | ghostlines | ok thanks |
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| 16:59.00 | Cpuroast | guess testing's apt indexes are having issues |
| 16:59.30 | Cpuroast | Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 16:59.39 | Cpuroast | W: Failed to fetch http://debian.mirror.iweb.ca/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-enIndex Hash Sum mismatch |
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| 17:06.29 | vimel | flash again: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/05/adobe_goes_out_of_band_to_fix_flash_flaw/ |
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| 17:07.03 | Okee | jhutchins> I am still getting the following error message: fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1 Possibly non-existent device? I Also tried sda2, sda3, sda4, sda5, sda6. And still got the same result. |
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| 17:08.09 | Okee | Is there a way to figure out what drive is the root? |
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| 17:09.12 | lex|work | df -h ? |
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| 17:11.29 | killy9999 | I have question about using backports |
| 17:11.35 | killy9999 | I already have some packages installed |
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| 17:11.51 | killy9999 | but would like to upgrade them to newer version from backports if it is available |
| 17:11.54 | killy9999 | how can I do that? |
| 17:12.25 | Okee | killy9999> Type "sudo apt-get update", and that should do it. |
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| 17:12.37 | killy9999 | hm... |
| 17:12.49 | killy9999 | what if it doesn't? |
| 17:13.03 | Okee | killy9999> Are you getting an error message? |
| 17:13.22 | Okee | killy9999> Or are you just not seeing the version you want? |
| 17:13.40 | killy9999 | OK, perhaps I wasn't clear |
| 17:13.53 | killy9999 | sure, that works - it downloads info from backports server |
| 17:14.22 | Cpuroast | now that kernel 3.13 is out, will that hit jessie? |
| 17:14.25 | killy9999 | but what I would like to have now is update packages from main repo to backports |
| 17:14.33 | centrx | Cpuroast, Presumably |
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| 17:15.09 | Cpuroast | 1 hour ago - Canonical has updated the Linux kernel for the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS |
| 17:15.10 | Cpuroast | lol |
| 17:15.41 | Okee | killy9999> Depending on how your sources.list is setup, you can have your computer check the main repo as well as back ports. It depends on what you put in your sources. Feel free to upload your sources to a pastebin so that other people can take a look. |
| 17:15.47 | jhutchins | killy9999: The way backports works is that you specify a package to install from backports. |
| 17:15.53 | mtn | killy9999: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 17:16.15 | jhutchins | killy9999: It's not designed to update everything that is avaiablable. |
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| 17:16.43 | killy9999 | mtn: I RTFMd already a bit ;) |
| 17:16.49 | killy9999 | I see |
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| 17:16.53 | jhutchins | killy9999: If you did that, you'd be essentially running a mixed stable-testing system with much better chances of conflicts and problems. |
| 17:16.53 | mtn | killy9999: the answer is there |
| 17:17.20 | killy9999 | can I at least see list of packages that I could potentially upgrade to newer version from backports? |
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| 17:17.44 | jhutchins | killy9999: What package do you need to update? |
| 17:17.49 | mtn | killy9999: http://packages.debian.org |
| 17:17.56 | killy9999 | mtn: I see it says that backports are deactivated by default but this doesn't tell me how to achieve what I want |
| 17:18.11 | mtn | killy9999: it tells how to install from backports |
| 17:18.18 | killy9999 | jhutchins: sorry, wasn't clear again |
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| 17:18.34 | killy9999 | I know how to update a package to version from backports |
| 17:18.40 | killy9999 | \what I do not know is: |
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| 17:19.26 | killy9999 | how to learn which of the installed packages have their updated versions in backports |
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| 17:19.33 | nell | my sound doesn't work |
| 17:19.35 | nell | after a restart |
| 17:19.53 | nell | no sound from aplay/browser/mplayer and I checked lspci and restarted alsa etc |
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| 17:20.16 | tbx1024 | nell: check your cables? :) |
| 17:20.18 | jhutchins | killy9999: I'd like to discourage you from the idea of updating for the sake of updating. |
| 17:20.21 | nell | cable is checked |
| 17:20.24 | nell | duh |
| 17:20.26 | tbx1024 | :/ |
| 17:20.28 | nell | won't work with speakers or headphones |
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| 17:20.44 | jhutchins | killy9999: If there is an update that fixes a bug or a security problem, it is almost always imported into the main stable repositories. |
| 17:20.44 | nell | this is after a restart |
| 17:21.11 | tbx1024 | nell: alsamixer ? |
| 17:21.13 | jhutchins | killy9999: backpors makes updates that are new features or options available, even if they're not bugfixes. |
| 17:21.15 | killy9999 | jhutchins: well.. I've shot myself in the foot many many time |
| 17:21.16 | Okee | killy9999> Not all updates are better. Some will actually crash your computer. If your computer is new enough, consider learning KVM virtualization. |
| 17:21.17 | mtn | nell: which release of debian? |
| 17:21.20 | nell | wheezy |
| 17:21.24 | nell | alsamixer has both in 100% |
| 17:21.27 | jhutchins | killy9999: You don't need a backported package just because it's newer. |
| 17:21.43 | killy9999 | oh, I was taken for a complete noob :-) |
| 17:22.01 | tbx1024 | is it possible to load nvidia binary driver from Sid on jessie? |
| 17:22.03 | jhutchins | killy9999: It's a differnt concept from what most distributions use. |
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| 17:22.34 | mtn | nell: either you changed something or you have a hardware problem |
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| 17:23.11 | Juslintek | hey is there a software which outputs all system logs to website format? Like multitail just in web format? :-) |
| 17:23.22 | jhutchins | killy9999: You might want to follow the backports mailing list. It will usually have discussions for new packages to be backported and what features they add. |
| 17:23.26 | nell | No mtn |
| 17:23.31 | mtn | nell: yes |
| 17:23.33 | nell | it was working 10 minutes ago |
| 17:23.34 | killy9999 | ok, OK |
| 17:23.38 | Okee | jhutchins> I have two questions: 1) Shouldn't the fsck return fsck.ext4 ; 2) can I access and repair / by rebooting and intervening with the Grub command? I don't know which partition is the Debian one. I thought it was the I drive. |
| 17:23.41 | nell | I just restarted my PC |
| 17:23.42 | mtn | shrugs |
| 17:23.42 | killy9999 | /s/ok/oh/ |
| 17:23.45 | Juslintek | So for example i connect to it via my webaddress and see all logs i wanted to see. |
| 17:24.00 | Juslintek | ls |
| 17:24.00 | killy9999 | BTW. what was the motivation for multiarch? |
| 17:24.24 | killy9999 | I just had my first contact with Wheezy today after upgrading from squeeze |
| 17:24.27 | jhutchins | Okee: Sorry, dealing with some plumbing issues irl. |
| 17:24.37 | killy9999 | and my initial impressions of multiarch are mixed |
| 17:25.03 | Okee | jhutchins> Plumbing? For real? As in pipes? |
| 17:25.09 | jhutchins | Okee: fdisk -l might be a good idea, see what devices you actually have. cat /etc/fstab might show you what is supposed to be mounted at /. |
| 17:25.25 | jhutchins | Okee: As in frozen pipes. |
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| 17:25.54 | Okee | jhutchins> Oohh. That don't sound fun. It has been pretty cold on the west coast as well, but it sounds like you are in the midwest.... |
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| 17:27.13 | Okee | jhutchins> Is that a capital I? As in ABCDEFGHI? |
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| 17:28.10 | mtn | Okee: l as in el |
| 17:28.29 | Okee | mtn: Oh. Thanks for letting me know. |
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| 17:31.10 | Su7 | Hi #debian |
| 17:31.33 | Su7 | Is there a way I can create a shortcut in Linux like if I were in Windows ? |
| 17:31.48 | Su7 | I mean ln -s creates a new path for my file |
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| 17:32.13 | mtn | Su7: do you use a desktop environment? |
| 17:32.17 | Su7 | mtn: no |
| 17:32.24 | Su7 | in the command-line |
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| 17:32.26 | mtn | Su7: man ln |
| 17:32.27 | Su7 | (with bash) |
| 17:33.05 | mtn | Su7: I don't know how windows does it, so.. |
| 17:33.43 | Su7 | mtn: when I cd to the shortcut, I land to the directory where the shortut leads to |
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| 17:34.13 | Su7 | I don't know if that's really clear :-( |
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| 17:36.05 | mtn | Su7: I googled it for you :P http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/10/linux-ln-command-examples/ |
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| 17:37.43 | jhutchins | Okee: fdisk -l for list |
| 17:38.13 | Su7 | mtn: let's say I am in dir1. In this directory, I have a symlink link_todir2 that points to /some/where/else/dir2. If I do cd link_todir2 and then cd .., I am back in dir1. I'd like to be in /some/where/else instead |
| 17:38.23 | Okee | jhutchins> Standby. I am going to place my results in a pastebin |
| 17:38.38 | Su7 | and your link seems to state that I have to be su to achieve this ?! |
| 17:38.50 | jhutchins | Su7: Doesn't work that way in *nix. |
| 17:39.03 | Su7 | that's what I was afraid of :-( |
| 17:39.22 | jhutchins | Su7: You can create a shell alias that works a bit like that in that it places you in the actuall location instead of a local path to it. |
| 17:39.47 | Su7 | jhutchins: that's what I was doing actually |
| 17:39.56 | Su7 | but I was hoping there was a nicer way |
| 17:40.42 | jhutchins | Su7: I have /var/www/html/drupal. In my home dir, I have a symlink to that folder called drupal6. I can work with it from my home directory as if it were in my home directory, but if I cd .. I'm back in $HOME instead of /var/www |
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| 17:41.09 | vasuvi | In most other distributions, opening a new tab in a terminal results in the new tab inheriting the current working directory of the old one, which can be rather convenient. Opening a new in GNOME Terminal in Jessie results in being put into my home directory regardless; is there any way I can change that behavior to make new tabs inherit the working directory as in other distros? |
| 17:41.13 | Su7 | jhutchins: and that's the behaviour I wanted to avoid :-( |
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| 17:42.31 | Su7 | It's a pity since it's pretty convenient :-( |
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| 17:42.51 | jhutchins | Su7: At some point you have to stop thinking "how woud I do it in Windows" and start working with the system instead of trying to imitate something else. |
| 17:43.07 | mtn | sooner the better ;) |
| 17:43.49 | jhutchins | I recommend total immesion. Wipe your windows partition and microwave the CDs. |
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| 17:44.23 | mtn | that's what I did and I felt much better |
| 17:44.31 | Su7 | Well folks I've been a Linux-only dude for 5 years now so... |
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| 17:45.19 | Su7 | I just had this issue this morning and wondered if I could get this behaviour that is actually pretty nice ;-) |
| 17:45.46 | Su7 | But yes, don't worry, I'll survive ! |
| 17:46.18 | vasuvi | Su7: One other option: cd `readlink ${linkfile}` |
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| 17:46.53 | vasuvi | A little more cumbersome to type out (though a shell function could be written for it), but I think that's what you want it to do, right? |
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| 17:49.14 | Su7 | vasuvi: I need to write a shell function for this but yes, that's it, thanks a lot ! |
| 17:49.28 | Su7 | Didn't know about this readlink thing |
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| 17:50.01 | vasuvi | Su7: Glad to help! I could see the function being something like ccd() { cd "$(readlink -f $@)" } or something |
| 17:50.28 | vasuvi | (the -f canonicalizes it to make it an absolute path; probably don't need it, but I figure that's the safest way) |
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| 17:52.15 | Su7 | vasuvi: I'll put this in my bashrc. Thanks ! |
| 17:52.21 | vasuvi | You're welcome! |
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| 18:02.42 | nabblet | hi |
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| 18:05.09 | swulf-- | is there something that has changed in recent kernels when trying to boot a live-cd? http://pastebin.com/kEr5cGPd does boot=live not work? |
| 18:05.36 | swulf-- | trying to follow this method: http://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/09/21/how-to-build-a-debian-livecd/ |
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| 18:08.28 | stmiller | Anyone have any info on an EOL date for squeeze? |
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| 18:10.10 | centrx | stmiller, Most likely May 2014 |
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| 18:10.54 | TheSin | quick question about triggers, in the triggered script how do I know the name of the package triggering it? $2? |
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| 18:14.26 | GabiP | hi guys , where its there a direct link to latest iso release ? thanks |
| 18:15.07 | nabblet | GabiP: lates iso release of... stable? testing? sid (experimental)? |
| 18:15.21 | centrx | GabiP, http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
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| 18:25.01 | Okee | ok. Here is the results of cat /etc/fstab: http://pastebin.com/aEbpuv1M |
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| 18:27.24 | moldy | hi |
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| 18:27.48 | centrx | Ahoy |
| 18:28.02 | sandGorgon | so the init system vote is happening and it seems that upstart is winning |
| 18:28.39 | petn-randall | sandGorgon: WTF? Where is the ballot? |
| 18:29.11 | sandGorgon | the bug page is too heavy to load so I'm tracking it here http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Processed-block-726763-with-727708-td3168132i40.html |
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| 18:31.19 | CheckDavid | does debian hav some sort of p2p file sharing tool? |
| 18:31.29 | CheckDavid | If not which one would you recommend to download popular stuff? |
| 18:32.23 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: There are several clients for every popular p2p network in the repository, pick one you like. |
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| 18:33.36 | CheckDavid | I would like a recommendation of one that works well with debian |
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| 18:33.51 | gregc2 | abrotman is a faggot |
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| 18:34.03 | CheckDavid | lol |
| 18:34.23 | AsumFace | every in the repo should work poperly with debian |
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| 18:34.40 | centrx | CheckDavid, For BitTorrent, transmission is a popular choice |
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| 18:35.38 | CheckDavid | centrx, trnsmission is the name? |
| 18:35.56 | centrx | CheckDavid, Yes, transmission-gtk |
| 18:36.00 | stmiller | transmission is great |
| 18:36.13 | CheckDavid | thanks for the tip |
| 18:36.17 | AsumFace | also thinks so |
| 18:36.25 | CheckDavid | oh |
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| 18:36.27 | CheckDavid | I already have it |
| 18:36.45 | CheckDavid | yeah |
| 18:36.48 | CheckDavid | it comes pre-installed |
| 18:36.58 | abrotman | petn-randall: still uncalled for? |
| 18:37.09 | CheckDavid | oh, but... |
| 18:37.14 | CheckDavid | I click it and it does nothing |
| 18:38.35 | CheckDavid | help pliz :p |
| 18:38.53 | CheckDavid | i will reinstall |
| 18:39.02 | nabblet | CheckDavid: what do you want to achive? |
| 18:39.31 | CheckDavid | nabblet, download illegal stuff |
| 18:39.35 | CheckDavid | for free |
| 18:39.58 | CheckDavid | free wares without paying! |
| 18:40.00 | CheckDavid | Kidding, not really |
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| 18:40.13 | CheckDavid | I just want to try p2p to download some stuff nabblet |
| 18:40.28 | nabblet | CheckDavid: are you using debian stable? |
| 18:41.18 | CheckDavid | I think so yes nabblet now I managed to open it |
| 18:41.25 | CheckDavid | Ah, so one needs to gt a torrent right? |
| 18:41.32 | CheckDavid | Where should I search for thme? Just google? |
| 18:41.51 | nabblet | CheckDavid: for starters you could torrent a debian sintallation ISO |
| 18:42.09 | redpill | imo, transmission is the best one we got so far, soon u will have a seedbox and everything, welcome to the club! |
| 18:42.15 | zinx | or sysreccd or something |
| 18:42.39 | CheckDavid | =) |
| 18:42.53 | CheckDavid | nabblet, Oh I see, I download the torrent from debian first right? |
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| 18:43.47 | nabblet | CheckDavid: well. torrent files are just small text files that will tell transmission where/how to get the content (=isntallation ISO in our case) of the torrent+ |
| 18:43.50 | nabblet | CheckDavid: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 18:44.07 | CheckDavid | I see, thanks |
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| 18:44.19 | nabblet | CheckDavid: here are the actual torrent files |
| 18:44.19 | aristoteles | hey debian ppl. i just updated from wheezy to jessie and now i find that lxde is acting a little funny. is this a known issue? |
| 18:44.21 | nabblet | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
| 18:44.23 | nabblet | CheckDavid: ^ |
| 18:44.28 | aristoteles | lxde seems to start ok, but no lxpanel is started. |
| 18:44.38 | aristoteles | i can start it myself in the terminal with "lxpanel &". but it's a little funny that it doesn't just get started automatically, right? it used to do so before the upgrade. does anyone know about changes to lxde config when upgrading to jessie? |
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| 18:45.05 | nabblet | CheckDavid: if you click one of the links to a torrent file it should offer you to open it with transmission |
| 18:45.17 | CheckDavid | thanks |
| 18:45.19 | CheckDavid | I think I am clear now |
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| 18:46.13 | nabblet | CheckDavid: you are welcome. Also don't forget that you can speed-limit Transmission in case it using too much bandwith and distrurbs other activieties (voice chat, etc.) |
| 18:46.54 | aristoteles | any users of lxde in here? |
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| 18:47.30 | aristoteles | or is there an lxde room? idk where to ask. i've found some messages that look like errors in .cache/lxsession/LXDE/run.log |
| 18:47.40 | petn-randall | !jessie |
| 18:47.41 | dpkg | The release following Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" is codenamed "Jessie" (the cowgirl in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 8.0. It is the current <testing> distribution. Use the #debian-next channel on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net) for support. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00004.html . See also <jessie freeze>. |
| 18:47.43 | aristoteles | i'd like to discuss them with someone knowledgable |
| 18:47.51 | petn-randall | aristoteles: The channel for jessie is there ^^^ |
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| 18:48.38 | aristoteles | petn-randall. ok, i can go to the quiet channel you suggest, but i was hoping someone with lxde knowledge could comment with me because i don't know that the problem is related to Jessie, it's just my guess. |
| 18:48.55 | aristoteles | so i need to change servers as well? i |
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| 18:50.10 | aristoteles | oh this seems to be the same issue but on ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2084966.html |
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| 18:50.29 | petn-randall | aristoteles: Yes, but don't worry, all the other jessie/sid users hang out there (including me), so you'll have a better chance finding people who can reproduce the problem. |
| 18:50.33 | aristoteles | i have those same messages in my .xsession/LXDE/run.log |
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| 18:50.54 | nabblet | aristoteles: well, since it worked with wheezy and does not with jessy it's surely a thing the #debian-next folks might be interested in. So either go there or find the lxde channel and ask them how to get the right error messages Anyway, here your cards for getting an answer are not that good |
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| 18:51.14 | aristoteles | ok petn-randall, i will go look for the room you suggest. thank you. |
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| 18:52.08 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 18:56.10 | petn-randall | owen1: I think you can configure the screen timeout with console-tools. |
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| 18:56.49 | wols | !screensaver |
| 18:56.50 | dpkg | To configure the screen-blanker for virtual (text) consoles, use the setterm(1) utility or edit /etc/kbd/config for permanent changes. To configure the X screen-blanker and screen power management settings, use the xset(1) utility or set the appropriate options in xorg.conf; see "man xorg.conf | less +/^SERVERFLAGS". |
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| 18:58.21 | owen1 | wols: thanks |
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| 19:02.40 | franziska | hi im trying to get rsnapshot running on my system ... rsnapshot hourly from commandline works well but rsnapshot daily /weekly from commandline does not create any directory where it should |
| 19:02.40 | franziska | can u pls help me guys ? |
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| 19:04.30 | krizoek | someone here know what the release "Debian Jessi" is about. is specially made for ebook displays? |
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| 19:05.17 | centrx | krizoek, Jessie is the codename for the next version of Debian |
| 19:05.30 | centrx | krizoek, It is for general use |
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| 19:06.11 | krizoek | ok, ty |
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| 19:06.15 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell krizoek about jessie |
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| 19:07.09 | vimel | im happy w jessie. |
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| 19:20.11 | killy9999 | how can I get splashscreen in grub under wheezy? |
| 19:20.21 | killy9999 | splashscreen = graphical mode, not text |
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| 19:21.48 | nkuttler | killy9999: you can get background images for grub |
| 19:22.06 | killy9999 | yes, that's what I meant |
| 19:22.15 | killy9999 | I see there is grub2-splashimages package |
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| 19:22.29 | killy9999 | but I assume there's some extra setup I need to perform |
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| 19:22.47 | killy9999 | is there any tutorial on the wiki? |
| 19:22.54 | nkuttler | killy9999: iirc it's automatic, but it's been a while i've used that |
| 19:22.55 | ajeremias | hello!! how can I easily test a TCP connection? i just want to send a string... thank u |
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| 19:24.48 | nkuttler | killy9999: https://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 |
| 19:24.54 | DammitJim | I am ssh'ing into another machine |
| 19:25.07 | killy9999 | nkuttler: thanks |
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| 19:25.24 | DammitJim | and for some reason, when I Shift + Page Up, it doesn't scroll what has been going on in the session, but rather the terminal itself |
| 19:25.26 | DammitJim | what am I doing wrong? |
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| 19:26.16 | DammitJim | hhmmmm.... maybe it is an ssh session thing? |
| 19:26.29 | DammitJim | it doesn't happen with my other sessions |
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| 19:27.21 | petn-randall | DammitJim: You can configure your terminal not to scroll down on keystrokes/output. |
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| 19:28.06 | DammitJim | like I said... it doesn't happen with other sessions of ssh to other machines |
| 19:28.09 | DammitJim | it's this one debian server |
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| 19:28.13 | killy9999 | surprisinly, none of the images in grub2-images contains debian logo :-/ |
| 19:28.25 | killy9999 | I was hoping to have something with deb logo |
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| 19:28.26 | abrotman | killy9999: Do they have the bottle version ? |
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| 19:29.33 | abrotman | killy9999: oh, wait. I think it's in the desktop-base package or something related |
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| 19:30.06 | CLJ87 | Debian supports ARM processors? |
| 19:30.10 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:30.24 | CLJ87 | So you could run it on a phone or tablet instead of android |
| 19:30.31 | killy9999 | tries desktop-base |
| 19:30.34 | CLJ87 | at least those with ARM |
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| 19:30.59 | CLJ87 | how is touch screen support huh? Does it exist within the OS? Drivers seem like they might be a problem |
| 19:31.01 | zinx | CLJ87: assuming you have a kernel and drivers for the device, yes |
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| 19:31.16 | CLJ87 | hm |
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| 19:31.26 | zinx | CLJ87: kernel and drivers are both typically large problems for Android devices |
| 19:31.33 | CLJ87 | I have stayed away from mobile devices all my life, because I don't like mobile operating systems |
| 19:31.41 | CLJ87 | I hate the application driven nature of android and ios |
| 19:31.41 | abrotman | CLJ87: you might want to ask #debian-arm ... I'm not sure how much it supports tablets |
| 19:31.47 | abrotman | on irc.oftc.net |
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| 19:32.16 | CLJ87 | hm |
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| 19:32.37 | CLJ87 | I'm not very familiar with debian, I'm a linux virgin, I have fooled about on ubuntu |
| 19:32.48 | CLJ87 | aside from the difference in GUI, is there much difference? |
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| 19:33.51 | CLJ87 | Really what I'm after, if I did buy a tablet and load a linux flavor on it would be an unobstructed browser |
| 19:33.59 | CLJ87 | I tried chrome on android once and it left a lot to be desired |
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| 19:34.14 | abrotman | CLJ87: why not just use Android on your tablet? |
| 19:34.22 | CLJ87 | its horrifying |
| 19:34.27 | abrotman | also, I believe there many methods for isntalling Debian alongside Android |
| 19:34.30 | CLJ87 | too app driven, not browser driven enough |
| 19:34.43 | abrotman | https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile |
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| 19:34.56 | CLJ87 | thanks for the chat, ttyl |
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| 19:35.35 | abrotman | thought Chrome was all about the browser? |
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| 19:36.08 | CLJ87 | chrome IS all about the browser |
| 19:36.16 | atari314 | https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00091.html << If debian change the init system to upstart or systemd, would it be viable to rollback to sysvinit on jessie? |
| 19:36.19 | CLJ87 | but it acts horrible on android |
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| 19:36.45 | CLJ87 | I want a desktop install of chrome on a tablet with a removable keyboard and insane battery life |
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| 19:37.07 | CLJ87 | pretty much I want a severely tiny chrome book with a great battery that last 12 hours |
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| 19:39.36 | petn-randall | atari314: Nothing has been decided yet, so nobody can answer that yet. |
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| 19:40.52 | atari314 | petn-randall, but hypothetically, would it be almost inviable to revert that by hand? |
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| 19:42.17 | petn-randall | atari314: How should I know? As I said, it hasn't been decided what init system will be in jessie, and if alternatives will be supported. So nobody can answer that at this point. |
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| 19:42.46 | atari314 | petn-randall, ok, tks |
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| 19:43.22 | gms | Hi all. cousera.org doesn't load on iceweasel 17.0.10 |
| 19:43.33 | zcd | that's cause it's coursera |
| 19:43.45 | mfox | maybe not |
| 19:43.49 | gms | it works fine on IE. I've just checked |
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| 19:44.12 | mfox | have you installed java and stuff... flash plugin |
| 19:44.17 | mfox | ? |
| 19:44.32 | gms | I guess so. |
| 19:44.46 | gms | I can check again |
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| 19:44.47 | mfox | are you sure? |
| 19:45.03 | gms | no, I'm not. |
| 19:45.22 | mfox | the iceweasel is a lil complicated though |
| 19:45.23 | trewas | atari314: sysvinit will be supported anyway in jessie, so that upgrades work without too much magic required |
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| 19:46.01 | atari314 | trewas, that's a relief, tyvm good sir :) |
| 19:46.15 | gms | well I'm a beginner |
| 19:46.32 | mfox | you can install the flash plugin via terminal, but first, you've got to enable non-free repository on your repository list |
| 19:46.42 | petn-randall | gms: What do you mean with doesn't load? Do you get an error message? |
| 19:46.51 | gms | well it's a script actually |
| 19:46.55 | mfox | everyone here it's a bigginer in something |
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| 19:47.27 | gms | A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete. Script: https://d2wvvaown1ul17.cloudfront.net/site-static/4733f40a7ca62ec16fcf3269feda1c9f611fb4be/pages/home/routes.js:6 |
| 19:47.45 | gms | mfox |
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| 19:47.51 | mfox | at the end you may see js |
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| 19:48.01 | mfox | it's java |
| 19:48.09 | atari314 | *javascript... |
| 19:48.11 | gms | I see, |
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| 19:48.25 | petn-randall | mfox: javascript. It's a big difference. |
| 19:48.53 | gms | so should I check java updates _ |
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| 19:48.59 | mfox | no |
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| 19:49.13 | mfox | you have to install the non-free java... oracle java |
| 19:49.17 | mfox | just a sec |
| 19:49.30 | petn-randall | gms: No, it has nothing to do with java. Apparently their sites is buggy with a supported browser. You could write them an e-mail about it. |
| 19:49.35 | atari314 | gms, no man, that's absolutely not correct |
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| 19:50.02 | gms | alright ! |
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| 19:50.08 | petn-randall | mfox: WTF? This has nothing to do with java. |
| 19:50.23 | mfox | you have some basic knowledge in command line? |
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| 19:50.40 | gms | I do |
| 19:50.44 | mfox | if so, have you checked your source.list? |
| 19:50.58 | mfox | nano /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 19:51.11 | mfox | where nano is the text editor |
| 19:51.12 | abrotman | sources.list |
| 19:51.23 | petn-randall | mfox: This also has nothing to do with flash, please don't give bad advice. |
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| 19:51.32 | atari314 | gms, cousera.org has a lot of traffic, to save bandwidth (between other things) they enable some cache on the cloudfront server, so when you access cousera it actually gives you the files from cloudfront, for some reason, some javascript that the site uses is not being properly served to you |
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| 19:51.54 | mfox | i'm not saying about flash, but about java |
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| 19:52.13 | abrotman | gets the popcorn |
| 19:52.18 | gms | atari314, I see. So this has got nothing to do with my browser |
| 19:52.19 | petn-randall | mfox: It's also NOT about java. Did you read the error message he got yet? |
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| 19:52.54 | atari314 | gms, if I have to guess is prolly a DNS problem. See this: https://d2wvvaown1ul17.cloudfront.net the d2wvvaown1ul17 is prolly not being served to you |
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| 19:53.07 | gms | I've cleared the cache btw |
| 19:53.08 | mfox | then what is your great idea about what is the problem mister petn-randall |
| 19:53.10 | gms | didn't work ou |
| 19:53.10 | gms | t |
| 19:53.34 | mfox | so, try to add this on yout source.list |
| 19:53.36 | mfox | deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all |
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| 19:54.44 | mfox | http://www.duinsoft.nl to more details |
| 19:55.03 | petn-randall | mfox: WTF? Please don't give crap advice. *READ* THE ERROR MESSAGE. |
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| 19:55.17 | mfox | check out the update-sun-jre |
| 19:55.18 | gms | thanks for the help folks |
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| 19:55.57 | petn-randall | mfox: And don't encourage people to install 3rd party repos if it has nothing to do with their problem description. It will only get them to loose support here when things break. |
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| 19:56.51 | mfox | you are and asshole petn-randall =) but i admire people that live in freedom |
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| 19:57.03 | petn-randall | !ops mfox |
| 19:57.03 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: petn-randall complains about: mfox |
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| 19:57.12 | ixio2 | does dpkg cache sources or something? I have updated my sources.list but getting dependancy errors relating to packages that are going to be installed that are not in the repos in the sources.list? libmysqlclient16: Depends: mysql-common (>= 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1) but 5.0.51a-24+lenny5 is to be installed |
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| 19:57.18 | centrx | "This site needs JavaScript" - "Better install Java from a third-party repository!" |
| 19:57.22 | atari314 | mfox, you're insane........ |
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| 19:58.06 | abrotman | mfox: Please take a few minutes timeout, please do not give bad advice to others. |
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| 19:58.46 | abrotman | puts the popcorn away .. |
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| 19:59.17 | petn-randall | gms: If you still have a problem with this site by tomorrow, you can consider updating to a newer version of iceweasel. Check out http://mozilla.debian.net/, where there are instructions for that. |
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| 19:59.35 | centrx | ixio2, Someone has installed a newer incompatible version of mysql-common |
| 19:59.41 | centrx | ixio2, Apparently |
| 19:59.54 | centrx | ixio2, So it is not from sources.list, but it is already installed, which dpkg knows about |
| 20:00.00 | ixio2 | oh ok, so someone has installed mysql-common from a non-lenny repo ? |
| 20:00.34 | ixio2 | how would one fix this |
| 20:00.39 | centrx | ixio2, Maybe libmysqlclient16 |
| 20:00.46 | petn-randall | ixio2: lenny? That release hasn't been supported in a long while. Can you paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources/list to http://paste.debian.org? |
| 20:00.58 | ixio2 | http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=1709 <-- as per that |
| 20:01.13 | gms | petn-randall: I checked it out, should I choose "release" ? |
| 20:01.22 | DammitJim | I still have lenny... oh sweet lenny |
| 20:01.26 | centrx | ixio2, Uninstall everything related to mysql first, then do your other installation |
| 20:01.29 | petn-randall | gms: Yes. |
| 20:01.32 | centrx | ixio2, And yes, do upgrade to wheezy |
| 20:01.44 | gms | petn-randall: alright, I'll give it a try. Thanks |
| 20:01.54 | petn-randall | gms: you're welcome. |
| 20:01.54 | ixio2 | right ok this box is pretty critical, I think ill move on to the next box |
| 20:02.03 | centrx | ixio2, Okay. |
| 20:02.11 | centrx | ixio2, (If it is critical you should use a release newer than 2009 :) |
| 20:02.37 | atari314 | gms, I still believe it's a simple dns issue... that's so common with cloudfront and ppl not using a good DNS server :/ |
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| 20:02.42 | ixio2 | centrx: just so I can feed back.. in order to fix this we need to remove MySQL and re-install it using proper lenny sources? then we can install the dependancies that I am struggling with ? |
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| 20:03.09 | petn-randall | ixio2: lenny lost security support two years ago, time to upgrade :) |
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| 20:03.13 | erore | Intel Parallel studio requires the following libstdc++ (including libstdc++6), glibc, libgcc, what packages are they? |
| 20:03.31 | centrx | ixio2, That is the most reliable way to do it. You may not need to uninstall all of MySQL, just the out-of-band packages (e.g. libmysqlclient16 is not the MySQL server) |
| 20:03.31 | petn-randall | ixio2: Depends on what your sources.list says, can you show it? |
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| 20:03.48 | ixio2 | petn-randall: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=1709 |
| 20:04.02 | centrx | ixio2, If you do need to uninstall the MySQL server, you run into problem with the database version not matching the software version |
| 20:04.13 | centrx | ixio2, Someone upgraded MySQL for some reason presumably. |
| 20:04.23 | ixio2 | yeh I would think so |
| 20:04.53 | petn-randall | ixio2: That's your sources.list? |
| 20:05.17 | ixio2 | petn-randall: yeah I commented everything in sources.list and replaced with those in that post |
| 20:05.34 | ixio2 | *appended |
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| 20:06.13 | wuffi600 | hi. |
| 20:06.13 | ixio2 | dlx36150:~/download# dpkg --list | grep mysql-common |
| 20:06.13 | ixio2 | ii mysql-common 5.0.51a-24+lenny5 MySQL database common files |
| 20:06.13 | ixio2 | dlx36150:~/download# |
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| 20:06.26 | ted20 | Hello all! |
| 20:06.36 | petn-randall | ixio2: Careful, use paste.debian.org for posting, or the bot may kick you for flooding. |
| 20:06.53 | ixio2 | I was careful :P |
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| 20:07.07 | ixio2 | didnt mean to have that third line there tho lol |
| 20:07.59 | ixio2 | so, on this box.. mysql-server is 5.0.51a-24+lenny5 ; mysql-common is 5.0.51a-24+lenny5 ; libmysqlclient15off is 5.0.51a-24+lenny5 --- all seems lennyish to me ? |
| 20:08.10 | petn-randall | ixio2: What does 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get upgrade' give you? |
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| 20:09.10 | wuffi600 | i'm running a few very solid squeeze systems (Kernel 2.6.32). I would like to use zram-Kernel Modul that was introduced with 2.6.37. Is there a elegant way to add zram to the squeeze systems |
| 20:09.13 | wuffi600 | ? |
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| 20:09.40 | abrotman | dpkg: tell wuffi600 about squeeze-backports |
| 20:09.42 | ompaul | wuffi600: upgrade to wheezy which is the current stable and get off oldstable |
| 20:10.02 | abrotman | wuffi600: there is a 3.2.x in backports, or upgrade completely to wheezy (a more sensible approach in most cases) |
| 20:10.05 | ixio2 | updates, updates, except for errors from Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/debian/dists/5.0/contrib/binary-i386/Packages Unable to fetch file, server said ‘Failed to open file. ’ .. .apt-get upgrade gives me.. well bunch of packages, none MySQL related |
| 20:10.17 | wuffi600 | abrotman: backports offer Kernel 3.0.2 that supports zram but its dependencies are horrible. |
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| 20:10.35 | petn-randall | ixio2: Paste the whole output to http://paste.debian.org please, so we can see it. |
| 20:10.37 | abrotman | wuffi600: dependencies? |
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| 20:11.03 | wuffi600 | abrotman: linux-base, udevm, ... |
| 20:11.15 | abrotman | wuffi600: Eh, no .. I think you're doing something wrong |
| 20:11.20 | ixio2 | http://paste.debian.net/80333/ |
| 20:11.24 | petn-randall | wuffi600: squeeze is only supported for 3 more months, you'll have to upgrade in that time frame anyway (at least it's sensible to do). |
| 20:11.28 | ixio2 | (its .net btw :P ) |
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| 20:11.47 | petn-randall | ixio2: Oh right, .net :) |
| 20:11.52 | wuffi600 | abrotman: i've already treid to upgrade... let me post a pastbin... just a second |
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| 20:12.23 | ompaul | ixio2: eh ... so there you go that is what the complaint is ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/debian/dists/5.0/contrib/binary-i386/Packages ... guess that is what it doesn't like and who knows what that is / was but it ain;t there now |
| 20:12.27 | petn-randall | ixio2: ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/debian is still in your sources.list, which is why I asked for it in the first place ... :) |
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| 20:12.41 | ted20 | Where is binary VirutalBox? |
| 20:12.53 | ted20 | virtualbox ose |
| 20:12.58 | ixio2 | http://paste.debian.net/80334/ |
| 20:13.09 | gms | petn-randall: upgrading to iceweasel 26 has solved the problem, thanks |
| 20:13.19 | petn-randall | gms: You're welcome, glad I could help. |
| 20:13.48 | petn-randall | ted20: You can use 'apt-cache search virtualbox' to find the package. |
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| 20:14.26 | wuffi600 | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/80335/ |
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| 20:14.37 | waqstar | What is a good media server for linux? Would anyone recommend a particular one? |
| 20:14.44 | ixio2 | plex? |
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| 20:15.21 | waqstar | ixio2, Kewl, any other favourites? |
| 20:15.25 | ixio2 | waqstar: you mean like to stream stuff around your house? DLNA etc? |
| 20:15.27 | ted20 | petn-randall: No... I install virutalbox binary, I'm searching path binaries... |
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| 20:15.47 | abrotman | wuffi600: Yes, you're doing it wrong .. you should read the instructions .. I believe it's something like `aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
| 20:15.49 | ixio2 | or to play stuff? |
| 20:15.58 | ixio2 | petn-randall: you got this right? http://paste.debian.net/80334/ |
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| 20:16.36 | petn-randall | ixio2: Check if there's something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, there's probably an extra file. |
| 20:16.43 | abrotman | wuffi600: I have to step away for a few minutes, but others should be able to help you here |
| 20:16.44 | waqstar | ixio2, yep, wana set up one of my VM's as a media server and to stream. PS3 is DLNA right? The servers are remote and not in the house |
| 20:17.02 | wuffi600 | abrotman: thank you very much |
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| 20:17.28 | ixio2 | waqstar: if your server has decent processing power and you can forward ports etc Id go plex if you have video content |
| 20:17.31 | petn-randall | ted20: I believe it's just called 'virtualbox'? You can check it with 'dpkg -L virtualbox | grep bin' |
| 20:17.42 | ixio2 | plex will transcode, has apps for android, iphone, samsung TV's etc |
| 20:18.00 | ted20 | petn-randall: yes... virualbox not found... |
| 20:18.34 | waqstar | ixio2, Do you know if plex compresses as well? My servers all have 100Mbit connections but home is close to 8Meg |
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| 20:19.05 | ixio2 | you can customise the quality according to bandwidth yes |
| 20:19.20 | waqstar | kew. Plex it is :) |
| 20:19.21 | ixio2 | and it will transcode into a format depending on the player, so for IOS mp4 etc |
| 20:19.28 | waqstar | time to create a new vm |
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| 20:19.49 | ixio2 | as for a player.. xmbc all day long |
| 20:20.05 | ixio2 | but plex has its own players if you go that route |
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| 20:20.32 | waqstar | xmbc? |
| 20:20.40 | ixio2 | xbmc |
| 20:20.40 | maroloccio | hi. smartctl --all /dev/mydevice shows a lot of info which i could not find in lshw hwinfo lsusb fdisk lsblk findmnt etc. where does it get it from? |
| 20:20.42 | waqstar | Works with plex? |
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| 20:20.55 | ixio2 | there is a plugin plexbmc I think its called |
| 20:21.04 | ixio2 | bmc** |
| 20:21.10 | ixio2 | wtf is wrong with my fingers |
| 20:21.27 | ixio2 | what will be the "player" waqstar ? |
| 20:21.32 | petn-randall | maroloccio: through the ATA smart command. You can read up on it with 'man smartctl'. |
| 20:22.07 | waqstar | excellent. thanks man. I like someone who knows about media and streaming. I've downloaded 20GB worth of movies in the past hour haha |
| 20:22.27 | waqstar | Player will be PS3 if i can get it to work, or stream it from my pc to the tv |
| 20:22.30 | ixio2 | waqstar: #xbmc #sickbeard #couchpotato #plex |
| 20:22.35 | maroloccio | petn-randall: can i get that info from somewhere else, more lightweight? e.g. proc/sysfs/something |
| 20:22.39 | waqstar | kew |
| 20:22.44 | waqstar | kewl* |
| 20:23.08 | ixio2 | the days of manually downloading stuff are over... read up about sickbeard/couchpotato |
| 20:23.44 | ixio2 | petn-randall: I have removed those sources from sources.list.d .. ftp errors gone now, although I do have a GPG error: W: GPG error: http://archive.debian.org lenny/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1356982504 |
| 20:24.13 | waqstar | ixio2, That sounds awesome! |
| 20:24.28 | petn-randall | ixio2: I think the upgrade command should still work though. |
| 20:24.35 | petn-randall | ixio2: Can you paste the full output? |
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| 20:25.18 | ixio2 | http://paste.debian.net/80340/ |
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| 20:25.52 | petn-randall | ixio2: 'apt-get upgrade'? Does that work? |
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| 20:26.18 | ixio2 | im not trying to upgrade anything really.. I need to install ruby-dev libmysqld-dev but I cant satisfy the dependencies |
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| 20:26.29 | ixio2 | libmysqld-dev: Depends: libmysqlclient-dev (>= 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1 |
| 20:27.02 | petn-randall | ixio2: paste the full output, especially: |
| 20:27.05 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 20:27.05 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 20:27.36 | petn-randall | ixio2: ^^^ the two apt-cache commands are important. |
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| 20:27.50 | waqstar | ixio2, Thanks for couchpotato |
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| 20:27.56 | antarus | w/c |
| 20:27.58 | antarus | bah |
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| 20:29.10 | ixio2 | where it says apt-cache policy PKG1 .. do I replace PKG1 with the package I am trying to install or of the dependency ? |
| 20:29.35 | ixio2 | http://paste.debian.net/80342/ |
| 20:29.43 | petn-randall | ixio2: ideally all packages involved. |
| 20:30.33 | ixio2 | http://paste.debian.net/80343/ |
| 20:32.00 | petn-randall | ixio2: Can you try 'apt-get install -t lenny-backports libmysqld-dev'? |
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| 20:32.14 | Underbyte | Afternoon all, Quick question: when do the rules (conf files) for the cgrules and cgred daemon take effect? Do i need to restart my box? or will restarting the daemons suffice? |
| 20:32.43 | ixio2 | The following packages will be upgraded: mysql-common || this isnt going to break anything is it? this is a production server? |
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| 20:34.27 | petn-randall | ixio2: I need the full output. I can't grasp what's going on with partial snippets. |
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| 20:35.08 | ixio2 | http://paste.debian.net/80345/ |
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| 20:36.05 | petn-randall | ixio2: Should be safe, it will remove libmysqlclient15-dev. |
| 20:37.02 | ixio2 | http://paste.debian.net/80346/ |
| 20:37.23 | ixio2 | presuming "N" |
| 20:37.26 | petn-randall | ixio2: Try the same '-t lenny-backports' trick on the others, and pay attention to what it will remove and upgrade. |
| 20:37.45 | petn-randall | ixio2: Yes, select 'N' unless you want to overwrite your config. |
| 20:38.16 | ixio2 | ooh thanks you seem to have fixed it :) |
| 20:38.22 | ixio2 | what on earth did we just do |
| 20:38.38 | ixio2 | -t lenny-backports ? |
| 20:39.08 | petn-randall | ixio2: check 'man apt-get', -t will be describes there. We explicitely selected the packages from backports, since you already had some packages from backports installed. |
| 20:39.23 | ixio2 | oh ok |
| 20:39.25 | ixio2 | thanks again |
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| 20:39.55 | petn-randall | ixio2: You're welcome. I'm glad I could help :) |
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| 20:41.25 | abrotman | petn-randall: it was flash eh? |
| 20:41.28 | abrotman | ducks |
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| 20:42.08 | petn-randall | o.O abrotman |
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| 20:47.34 | maroloccio | how can i pull up a "disk partitioning/encryption wizard" like the one from the wheezy OS installation and use it to format an external USB drive? |
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| 20:50.04 | ixio2 | is there anything in "tasksel" ? |
| 20:50.14 | ixio2 | been a while since ive been in there |
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| 20:51.15 | maroloccio | i don't see it (tasksel --list-tasks) |
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| 20:53.25 | maroloccio | nor in https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/PartmanCrypto |
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| 20:55.52 | Mongo44 | I don't know how to view the xorg.conf file. |
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| 20:57.59 | comradekingu | Is there a way to install deb files to sd cards if you run out of nand space? Basically want to be able to remove an sd card with self contained binaries without dpkg failing |
| 20:58.37 | jhutchins | Mongo44: Is there one? |
| 20:59.41 | jhutchins | comradekingu: abstractly, yes, but not as a part of the normal system. |
| 20:59.45 | Mongo44 | I read a guide about creating one for Lubuntu not sure about Wheezy. |
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| 21:00.09 | comradekingu | jhutchins: would you be able to point me in a direction? |
| 21:00.28 | jhutchins | Mongo44: Same general rules apply, but generally you run without one. |
| 21:00.58 | jhutchins | comradekingu: I don't think it will do what you think you are trying to do. |
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| 21:01.28 | jhutchins | comradekingu: dpkg won't care if files it has installed go awyay, at least until it tries to upgrade or remove those files. |
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| 21:01.59 | jhutchins | comradekingu: Installing packages to a different destination means they won't be available to the system as normal packages. |
| 21:02.26 | comradekingu | jhutchins: its primarily just for games |
| 21:02.26 | Mongo44 | I haven't been able to set the correct resolution for my Lubuntu VM, so I want to view the xorg.conf file to input information to the VM. |
| 21:02.38 | jhutchins | comradekingu: More likely you need to think about restructuring your system to get space where you need it. |
| 21:03.37 | jhutchins | Mongo44: There probably isn't one. These days X auto-configures on startup - that's what all the "noise" in /var/log/Xorg.0.log is. |
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| 21:04.13 | comradekingu | jhutchins: what is the best approach, unionfs? |
| 21:04.21 | jhutchins | Mongo44: For setting resolution, find out what lubuntu uses for xrandr - and that's an #ubuntu or #lubuntu question. |
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| 21:04.35 | jhutchins | Mongo44: Future *buntu releases might not even use X. |
| 21:04.50 | tengri | doesnt lubuntu have lxrandr or something like that since its lxde? |
| 21:05.09 | Parabola | afternoon folks, whats a good method for cloning a running linux install from HDD to a thumb drive and making it bootable? |
| 21:05.23 | Parabola | i googled around, didnt find what i was looking for |
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| 21:05.42 | maroloccio | Parabola: depends. `man dd'? |
| 21:05.48 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 21:06.10 | grep0r | Parabola, have to do with debian specific or general linux question? |
| 21:06.12 | jhutchins | comradekingu: In my opinion, it's best to put a portion of the filesystem like /var or /home or /usr on another device. I don't like spanning physical devices except via striped RAID. |
| 21:06.46 | gnude1 | hello, i have a problem with debian 6 and my asus notebook with radeon graphic. i cannoot change the brightness. the function key dont change it. and if i start amdcccle he says an memory error |
| 21:06.54 | jhutchins | comradekingu: I don't know what your existing storage structure is, or where you have data, or will accumulate it in the future. |
| 21:07.06 | Parabola | grep0r: its a copy of debian running on the box |
| 21:07.11 | gnude1 | echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness |
| 21:07.11 | gnude1 | shows no effect |
| 21:07.17 | Parabola | but to this point i dont think it maters |
| 21:07.21 | Parabola | debian, redhat, windows |
| 21:07.24 | comradekingu | jhutchins: / on nand /home on SD |
| 21:07.25 | jhutchins | !aptitude clone |
| 21:07.26 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
| 21:07.35 | Azrael_- | i've just installed xen 4 on squeeze and wanted to tune it by limiting the memory of dom0. i've set in grub "dom0_mem=512M" and in xend-config "(dom0-min-mem 512)" "(enable-dom0-ballooning no)" but dom0 still uses all available ram. any idea why? |
| 21:07.49 | Parabola | okay does this copy over things not installed via package managemnet? |
| 21:07.55 | Parabola | otherwise its useless |
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| 21:08.10 | Parabola | thats why i asked about cloning the drive to a thumb stick and making it bootable |
| 21:08.21 | jhutchins | Parabola: far from useless, but no. |
| 21:08.32 | Parabola | let me rephrase, useless for my neds |
| 21:08.33 | Parabola | needs* |
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| 21:08.44 | jhutchins | Parabola: For a running system there isn't a good method. |
| 21:08.52 | Parabola | i dont' mind powering it off |
| 21:09.02 | Parabola | but i dont think thats going to help me |
| 21:09.12 | jhutchins | Parabola: Need to boot from some other media. |
| 21:09.13 | Parabola | i attempted to dd the mofo that ended up not being bootable :) |
| 21:09.17 | Parabola | i also tried rsync |
| 21:09.41 | Parabola | jhutchins: do you have any ideas? i attempted acronis |
| 21:09.51 | jhutchins | Parabola: partition, format, rsync, chroot, grub-install. |
| 21:09.51 | Parabola | it doesnt seem to see flash drives |
| 21:10.09 | jhutchins | Parabola: clonezilla's probably a good bet. |
| 21:10.21 | ompaul | Parabola: what is the age of the board, and it's model number? |
| 21:10.48 | Parabola | ompaul: thats a very odd question, and to answer it age i've had it less than a month |
| 21:10.52 | Parabola | model, not sure |
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| 21:11.22 | Parabola | im not in a position to go look at it |
| 21:12.16 | ompaul | Parabola: to figure out how and if it worth talking about making your systems bios (or whatever) work on booting off a stick |
| 21:12.28 | Parabola | oh, that works fine |
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| 21:12.34 | Parabola | i installed the OS via a thumb drive |
| 21:12.42 | ompaul | Parabola: the source machine is running what version of what? |
| 21:12.55 | Parabola | whatever th current release is |
| 21:13.06 | Parabola | but again that doesnt really matter, this process is going to be abstracted back one layer |
| 21:13.24 | Parabola | the OS doesnt in the end matter i dont believe, i came here because i know there are smart people in here |
| 21:13.28 | Parabola | i could have asked in #windows :P |
| 21:13.34 | Parabola | lot of good taht would have done me |
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| 21:14.32 | ompaul | ahhhs ok so and wanders off because I've no good ideas about this then :) |
| 21:14.46 | Parabola | :) |
| 21:14.51 | Parabola | who can take a sunriiiise |
| 21:14.55 | Parabola | sprinkle it with dewwww |
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| 21:15.26 | Parabola | the candy man can! |
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| 21:15.52 | Parabola | the candyman can cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste goooood |
| 21:16.04 | grep0r | ? |
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| 21:17.29 | Parabola | hold your breath grep0r |
| 21:17.35 | Parabola | make a wish, count to three |
| 21:17.49 | Parabola | come with me....and you'll be... in a world of pure imagination |
| 21:17.51 | androidbruce | afternoon |
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| 21:17.58 | grep0r | Parabola, are you testing something? |
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| 21:18.14 | Parabola | take a look, and you'll see into your imagination |
| 21:18.20 | Parabola | yeah , its my singbot |
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| 21:18.33 | Parabola | i wrote it for you |
| 21:18.54 | Parabola | we'll begin.. with a spin...traveling in the world of my creation |
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| 21:19.19 | thys | So I am trying to find or enable some relevant logging in Debian as I am just flailing about in the dark. |
| 21:19.19 | thys | I'm on Wheezy, lighttpd and using it for web hosting. |
| 21:19.19 | thys | For some reason the contact forms on all the website are broken. The form behaves fine saying that the message is sent but nothing is received. IPtables are wide open while I troubleshoot so that should not be the issue. Any ideas? |
| 21:19.21 | dontknow | when will be iceweasel 27 released? |
| 21:19.23 | Parabola | what we'll see, will defy explination |
| 21:19.37 | Parabola | if you want to view paradise.. simply look around and view it |
| 21:19.40 | helo | Parabola: the power of open source is unlimited!!!! |
| 21:19.45 | Thaxll | I have a question regarding root account, does root uses permissions for linux file, if I set 000 to a folder I'm still able to walk in |
| 21:20.04 | Parabola | anything you want to do, do it |
| 21:20.12 | helo | Parabola: yeah! |
| 21:20.16 | Parabola | want to change the world? theres nothing to it |
| 21:20.38 | Parabola | there is no, life i know.. to compare with pure imagination |
| 21:20.47 | grep0r | Thaxll, root can do anything as it is root tbh. |
| 21:21.04 | Parabola | living there, you'll be free, if you truly wish to be |
| 21:21.04 | dontknow | when will iceweasel 27 be released? |
| 21:21.19 | Thaxll | grep0r: Well I know but I thought everthough you're able to change permissions, the x for folder would apply to root |
| 21:21.24 | Parabola | if you want to view, paradise.. simply look around and view it |
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| 21:21.45 | Parabola | anything you want to do, do it. want to change the world? theres nothing to it |
| 21:21.47 | tg2 | ahoy |
| 21:22.16 | tg2 | is there a way to tell debian kernel to forget previous device associations? I have a device which while moving it from pci-e slot to pci-e slot keeps making copies of itself in the driver tree |
| 21:22.29 | tg2 | ie: lsmod shows 40+ "in use" of this driver, even though there is only 1 device |
| 21:22.31 | tg2 | and it is causing issues |
| 21:22.36 | dontknow | when will iceweasel 27 be released? |
| 21:22.36 | dontknow | when will iceweasel 27 be released? |
| 21:22.43 | tg2 | tried rmmod and modprobe it back |
| 21:22.44 | tg2 | same issue |
| 21:22.47 | Parabola | shut the fuck up dontknow |
| 21:22.48 | tg2 | tried removing the drivers and re-adding |
| 21:22.51 | tg2 | nothing |
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| 21:22.54 | tg2 | same thing |
| 21:23.05 | dontknow | release iceweasel 2 |
| 21:23.07 | dontknow | 27 |
| 21:23.08 | tg2 | is there a way to tell the kernel forget device associations and re-assign them? |
| 21:23.18 | tg2 | dontknow - solidly fuck off m8 |
| 21:23.34 | dontknow | 27 |
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| 21:23.45 | dontknow | i want iceweasel 27 |
| 21:24.07 | tg2 | you want a ban? |
| 21:24.12 | tg2 | i'm sure somebody can help you with that |
| 21:24.16 | Parabola | and i want you to get sodomized by a pack or rabid dogs |
| 21:24.20 | Parabola | but we dont get what we want |
| 21:24.31 | tg2 | install chrome |
| 21:24.33 | tg2 | :D |
| 21:24.49 | dontknow | dont install chrome spyware |
| 21:25.00 | tg2 | install rootkit backdoor |
| 21:25.02 | tg2 | post ip here |
| 21:25.07 | dontknow | i use iceweasel-libre |
| 21:25.08 | tg2 | i'm sure somebody will help you with it |
| 21:25.25 | tg2 | sooooo nobody knows how to re-initialize devices in the kernel? |
| 21:25.36 | tg2 | or where it saves previous devices associations? |
| 21:25.46 | dontknow | Parabola, you use iceweasel-libre? |
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| 21:27.11 | tg2 | this chan is great |
| 21:27.14 | tg2 | manye xperts sounding off |
| 21:27.23 | tg2 | no retarded spammers at all |
| 21:27.30 | dontknow | iceweasel team is very slow |
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| 21:28.17 | atari314 | why don't they just add firefox to non-free? |
| 21:28.24 | DammitJim | what do I need to do to my debian machine to tell the local DNS server to add an entry for my new IP? |
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| 21:29.01 | tg2 | DammitJim - is your dns server configured to allow clients to update it? |
| 21:29.21 | GNU\colossus | tg2, what exactly do you mean, what kind of devices are you talking about? |
| 21:29.30 | DammitJim | honestly, I don't know... I guess the windows machines do it when they authenticate with AD? |
| 21:29.32 | tg2 | GNU\colossus, ATI devices, |
| 21:29.40 | tg2 | every time I change the pci-e slot for my card, it adds a new record |
| 21:29.47 | tg2 | lsmod showing 40+ "in use" for fglrx |
| 21:29.51 | tg2 | when there is only 1 card |
| 21:29.55 | tg2 | fresh install shows properly 1 device using it |
| 21:30.03 | tg2 | (well, 2 because of the hdmi port) |
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| 21:30.20 | GNU\colossus | tg2, hmm, that may be related to some weird fglrx-specific userspace config store I think I have read about in the past |
| 21:30.28 | tg2 | ahhh |
| 21:30.29 | tg2 | good call |
| 21:30.31 | tg2 | if I remove fglrx |
| 21:30.31 | GNU\colossus | why do you change PEG slots so often, if I may ask? |
| 21:30.33 | tg2 | and put mesa |
| 21:30.37 | tg2 | fucking aroudn with mining machine |
| 21:30.41 | tg2 | changing pci-e ports and adding new cards |
| 21:30.51 | tg2 | it eventually ends up with 40+ "in use" on the driver |
| 21:30.56 | tg2 | and OCL no longer works |
| 21:31.04 | babilen | dpkg: enter |
| 21:31.04 | tg2 | removing fglrx and purging it |
| 21:31.05 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 21:31.06 | tg2 | doesn't help :'9 |
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| 21:32.37 | dontknow | dpkg, shut up |
| 21:32.37 | dpkg | No, I won't, and you can't make me. :P |
| 21:32.43 | babilen | atari314: firefox is packaged in Debian as "iceweasel" there really is no need to package it twice |
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| 21:33.25 | dontknow | babilen, why does it take too long? |
| 21:33.52 | dontknow | aren't they just rebranding? |
| 21:34.21 | atari314 | babilen, which version is currently iceweasel? |
| 21:34.33 | dontknow | 26 on unstable |
| 21:34.51 | d00N | petn-randall, thank you for your assistance earlier. I didn't have the time to show the appreciation |
| 21:34.57 | babilen | atari314: 26 |
| 21:35.17 | babilen | atari314: Take a look at http://mozilla.debian.net if you run wheezy and want a newer version |
| 21:35.23 | petn-randall | d00N: You're welcome. I'm glad I could help. Come back if you need any more support :) |
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| 21:35.42 | atari314 | but if I get it from unstable will that update the deps too to the unstable ones? |
| 21:35.48 | atari314 | babilen, |
| 21:36.09 | babilen | atari314: Take a look at http://mozilla.debian.net, nobody suggested to grab it from unstable and doing so would indeed be a bad idea |
| 21:36.45 | atari314 | babilen, ok, tks |
| 21:36.50 | babilen | yq |
| 21:37.01 | babilen | s/q/w ;) |
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| 21:38.00 | petn-randall | tg2: Try to keep it family-friendly and constructive in here. Telling people to fuck off is not how we roll. |
| 21:38.40 | tg2 | its how i roll |
| 21:38.49 | tg2 | to flooders |
| 21:38.58 | abrotman | petn-randall: feel free to !ops tg2 is being abusive |
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| 21:39.11 | babilen | tg2: You would be well adviced to heed that advice. |
| 21:39.12 | tg2 | sorry for asking fo rhelp and getting mad at flooders |
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| 21:39.31 | gregc2 | abrotman is a faggot |
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| 21:39.35 | abrotman | tg2: you're hitting enter every fourth word .. does that make you a flooder? |
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| 21:41.05 | abrotman | maybe? |
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| 21:41.50 | thys | So I am trying to find or enable some relevant logging in Debian as I am just flailing about in the dark. |
| 21:41.50 | thys | I'm on Wheezy, lighttpd and using it for web hosting. |
| 21:41.51 | thys | For some reason the contact forms on all the website are broken. The form behaves fine saying that the message is sent but nothing is received. IPtables are wide open while I troubleshoot so that should not be the issue. Any ideas? |
| 21:42.03 | tg2 | ok guys thanks for your time |
| 21:42.07 | tg2 | you've been really helpful |
| 21:42.19 | petn-randall | tg2: If someone floods, point it out to them. If they don't listen, you can call !ops. |
| 21:42.30 | atari314 | hey babilen tks for the tip, that will make my life a lot easier here ^^ |
| 21:42.39 | abrotman | petn-randall: he left |
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| 21:42.48 | petn-randall | woops, bad timing. |
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| 21:46.09 | zx2c4 | http://lite2.framapad.org/p/poVMweVVsM !!! the votes are coming in!!! |
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| 21:52.17 | zx2c4 | init system |
| 21:53.15 | iceroot | can you recommend a gui for xrandr or something else (working) for xfce4 to switch different monitor settings for dual view? |
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| 21:58.16 | wuffi600 | abrotman: backports' kernelupgrade to 3.2.0 worked perfectly. Thank you very much. |
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| 21:58.30 | petn-randall | iceroot: check out settings → display |
| 21:58.33 | abrotman | wuffi600: glad to hear |
| 21:58.37 | jhutchins | iceroot: Which DE? |
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| 21:58.51 | petn-randall | jhutchins: xfce4 he said |
| 21:58.51 | iceroot | jhutchins: xfce4 |
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| 21:59.29 | iceroot | petn-randall: that one is not working very good and as it seems xfce4 itself have a gap of nice features for dual monitor in the current version |
| 21:59.30 | jhutchins | D'Oh, so he did. |
| 21:59.57 | petn-randall | iceroot: I see. What are you missing? |
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| 22:00.45 | iceroot | petn-randall: a possibility to work correctly with HDMI1, HDMI2, VGA1, VGA2 to say mirror the monitors or extend the display on the right/left/top |
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| 22:00.55 | iceroot | petn-randall: at the moment i am using something like this xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto --output HDMI2 --auto --left-of LVDS1 |
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| 22:01.22 | iceroot | petn-randall: i am using a docking station and the xfce4 tool is not able to detect all output devices and stuff like that, only xrandr is able to do so |
| 22:01.52 | jhutchins | iceroot: What about desktop icons that run the commands you want? |
| 22:01.55 | iceroot | extend to the right for example is only working with the xfce4 tool when i am using VGA1/2, with HDMI its not working |
| 22:01.56 | petn-randall | iceroot: I see, I guess it's buggy then, since it uses xrandr in the background to change settings. |
| 22:02.05 | iceroot | jhutchins: that is hwat i have at the moment |
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| 22:02.36 | iceroot | jhutchins: but a general tool would be nice and specially when pressing fn + display-function-key |
| 22:03.20 | naxa | a noob question.. man says "ufw allow 53" would "allow tcp and udp port 53 to any address on this host". does this mean that anyone on the whole word can connect on port 53 to my machine? |
| 22:03.27 | iceroot | also removing the notebook from the dockingstation WITHOUT first switiching back to single screen... always the cli is needed to fix that. xfce4 really has some issues with dual view in debian stable. the sid version is running fine with it |
| 22:03.42 | petn-randall | naxa: Yes. |
| 22:03.52 | iceroot | naxa: if your local machine is connected directly to the internet, yes |
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| 22:04.35 | iceroot | naxa: and port53 is allowed by default like all other ports. ufw (ubuntu??) is not rejecting anything by default |
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| 22:05.21 | naxa | petn-randall, iceroot: okay, thank you very much! |
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| 22:06.43 | petn-randall | iceroot: ufw is also a Debian package. |
| 22:07.05 | iceroot | petn-randall: is it still called ubuntu firewall in debian? :) |
| 22:07.39 | iceroot | Uncomplicated FireWall (ufw) |
| 22:07.50 | iceroot | ah ok, i am sure on ubuntu it was called "ubuntu firewall" |
| 22:09.09 | iceroot | my fault, same name on ubuntu |
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| 22:09.39 | ted20 | How to set 12 hour time format in thunderbird/icedove? |
| 22:10.30 | Rodya | this might not be the right place, but i'm trying to use p2dsc and debuild to package some pip packages for my job... everything works fine except that it appears to be adding, incorrectly, Depends: python (>= 2.7), python (<< 2.8), and i'm unsure how to prevent this (without running all the tools it those two call by hand)? |
| 22:10.50 | grep0r | ted20, i'm not running the above might can be done otherwise too, but with a bash script it can done or a cronjob ;) |
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| 22:12.33 | ted20 | grep0r: ok, i'm reading this manual http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format |
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| 22:14.15 | atari314 | Rodya, maybe some of your deps have python or libpython or libpythongtk as dep? |
| 22:14.26 | grep0r | ted20, intresting I think a solution is there somewhere |
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| 22:16.17 | Rodya | atari314 the package itself has no depdencies other than python (the setup.py indicates it supports python 2.5-3.3, so that would be the only one i expect) |
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| 22:18.16 | ted20 | grep0r: yes, and... My distro display clock only in 24 hour format. Thunderbird/icedove's has got a clock from distro... |
| 22:18.42 | ted20 | geimas: This is a debian ;) |
| 22:18.59 | atari314 | Rodya, well, you can always correct that by hand: dpkg-deb -x your.deb temp/ && dpkg-deb --control your.deb. temp/DEBIAN then edit the temp/DEBIAN/control and fix the versions or remove the entries on the DEPENDS: , save and after that dpkg-deb -b temp/ yourfixed.deb |
| 22:19.19 | ted20 | grep0r: this is an debian |
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| 22:19.51 | Rodya | atari314 i'll see if i can make that work... i'm trying to script this as much as possible so i can just tell other engineers to go run a script intsead of doing it myself, thanks :) |
| 22:20.10 | atari314 | Rodya, ^^ |
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| 22:20.54 | atari314 | Rodya, is python 2.5 still supported on debian? |
| 22:21.14 | Kiril | nope |
| 22:21.32 | Rodya | atari314 we have some out of date boxes that we have to support until we can upgrade them :( |
| 22:21.37 | ted20 | How to change 12 hour time format in debian (no in X/WM)...? |
| 22:21.46 | ted20 | *at |
| 22:21.49 | Rodya | but all we really need is support for >= 2.6 |
| 22:22.13 | atari314 | Rodya, maybe it's adding the python2.7 - 2.8 by default cause it's the one currently supported |
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| 22:23.06 | Rodya | atari314 possibly? the python-all-dev package appears to install 2.6 as well, though, so i'd expect it to do both if possible |
| 22:23.07 | Kiril | root@vs1146:~# python -V |
| 22:23.07 | Kiril | Python 2.7.3 |
| 22:23.11 | Kiril | it's good enough |
| 22:23.45 | atari314 | Rodya, maybe there's a way to specify the versions of the deps when you create the deb, not sure tho |
| 22:24.51 | Rodya | atari314 been digging through man pages of all the relevant tools for a couple days and haven't come up with anything other than X-Python-Version in the control file, but that didn't appear to do anything (i may have also done it wrong) |
| 22:26.06 | petn-randall | iceroot: :) |
| 22:27.01 | atari314 | Rodya, I really don't know, sorry :( |
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| 22:27.26 | grep0r | ted20, if you have gui you can do it from there but if you dont you can do it via date command, man date on terminal |
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| 22:28.03 | snardbafulador | feces |
| 22:28.04 | snardbafulador | caca |
| 22:28.05 | snardbafulador | shit |
| 22:28.06 | snardbafulador | poop |
| 22:28.08 | snardbafulador | la cagalera |
| 22:28.11 | snardbafulador | la cagada |
| 22:28.12 | snardbafulador | cagations |
| 22:28.18 | snardbafulador | poo poo |
| 22:28.19 | snardbafulador | diarrhea |
| 22:28.21 | snardbafulador | diarea |
| 22:28.23 | snardbafulador | heces |
| 22:28.47 | nkuttler | !ops obvious trolling |
| 22:28.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: nkuttler complains about: obvious trolling |
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| 22:29.31 | ted20 | grep0r: I read man... :/ |
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| 22:30.05 | ted20 | snardbafulador: what are you doing? |
| 22:30.13 | grep0r | ted20, some examples if you are bored to check whole man http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2013/05/date-command-examples/ ;) |
| 22:30.19 | Bert_2 | Hi, I'm trying to get pure-ftpd working with ldap using anonymous binding (so the user binds, not password checking using a privileged user), but it just refuses to auth without any weird errors, anyone have any experience with this? |
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| 22:32.05 | aquarius | can I run "dpkg -S file1 file2 file3" and have it show just the values it finds? If file2 was not from a Debian package, the whole command aborts; I'd like it to show the successes and ignore the failures |
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| 22:33.01 | ted20 | grep0r: date +%I Displays hour (01..12) format ok, so, i can't set this option for all (display ok, not for global) |
| 22:33.32 | nkuttler | aquarius: works fine for me |
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| 22:35.00 | aquarius | ah. It prints the output *and* returns an error code. duh. I clearly need more tea. thank you :) |
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| 22:43.29 | socomm | Drinking tea over coffee. Drinking tea ever ...... |
| 22:43.34 | socomm | Clearly I need coffee. |
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| 22:44.29 | axel_foley | would anyone rre |
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| 22:46.12 | axel_foley | would anyone recommend to migrate to PC-BSD? I tested it in the virtual box and i am impressed! its amazing. |
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| 22:48.55 | hhhhhhhh | i am running testing but i would like to install opensmtpd which is only available in unstable |
| 22:49.00 | ix | axel_foley: they might be able to answer any questions regarding PC-BSD in #pcbsd. |
| 22:49.10 | Nik05 | ok hhhhhhhh |
| 22:49.18 | hhhhhhhh | googling indicates that i should put unstable in my sources.list and then `apt-get -t unstable install opensmtpd` but obviously this dies or i wouldn't be here |
| 22:49.24 | hhhhhhhh | "E: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources" |
| 22:49.38 | centrx | hhhhhhhh, You need to run apt-get update first |
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| 22:50.37 | centrx | hhhhhhhh, And then make sure to remove/comment out unstable from sources.list and run apt-get update again, to make sure you do not accidentally install more unstable packages instead of testing |
| 22:50.42 | hhhhhhhh | centrx thanks |
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| 22:51.31 | petn-randall | hhhhhhhh: If you need more help, jessie/sid are supported on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 22:52.17 | babilen | hhhhhhhh: Setting the default release to unstable really doesn't make sense btw, but yeah, lets discuss this further in #debian-next |
| 22:52.35 | hhhhhhhh | babilen: i haven't i only wanted 1 package :p |
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| 22:53.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell hhhhhhhh -about tum |
| 22:53.33 | babilen | But then → # |
| 22:53.37 | babilen | #debian-next |
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| 22:56.23 | hhhhhhhh | wow |
| 22:56.32 | hhhhhhhh | usually bots are passive aggressive/injoke machines |
| 22:56.38 | hhhhhhhh | but that was genuinely helpful. :p |
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| 22:57.39 | babilen | hhhhhhhh: You have clearly been hanging out in the wrong channels :) |
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| 22:58.37 | hhhhhhhh | babilen: #archlinux.... |
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| 22:58.51 | themill | hhhhhhhh: dpkg tends towards sarcasm rather than in jokes. |
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| 22:59.18 | jhutchins | Meanwhile judd is fairly humorless. |
| 23:00.52 | babilen | But so knowledgeable - http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ |
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| 23:01.41 | judd | cries in the corner |
| 23:03.46 | dutchfish | !comfort judd |
| 23:03.46 | dpkg | There, there, judd. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 23:04.05 | plastictrousers | !kill plastictrousers |
| 23:04.05 | dpkg | rips plastictrousers open with a free AOL CD |
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| 23:05.49 | Jason | /38/38 |
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| 23:06.21 | thaicares | I am crazy happy with Debian despite the fact that recently it has been pissing me off! |
| 23:06.37 | phogg | I'd say rather that dpkg is a product of his most prolific friends. |
| 23:06.49 | petn-randall | thaicares: Glad to ... uhm. <_< |
| 23:06.54 | Wonkywifi | Guys: help compiling an altcoin miner: ./configure asking for required libcurl >= 7.15.2 I'm on debian-testing and my repos have only libcurl3 7.34.0 Any guidance for a linux dumbo plz? |
| 23:07.06 | thaicares | I've probably had Debian on this device since right before the new year... but recently the wifi stops working and won't start working until I restart! |
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| 23:07.35 | phogg | Wonkywifi: 7.34 sounds like >= 7.15.2 to me |
| 23:07.57 | phogg | thaicares: remove and re-probe the module. That's usually sufficient |
| 23:07.58 | thaicares | I've tried toggling wifi on and off with the hardware button and on the soft side inside terminal it doesn't help! I have to restart the computer! |
| 23:08.08 | petn-randall | Wonkywifi: Do you have libcurl-dev installed? |
| 23:08.11 | Wonkywifi | well installed libcurl3 but config ignores it |
| 23:08.20 | Kirito | Since upgrading glibc to 2.18, Dovecot seems to be broken. Anything I can do? |
| 23:08.22 | Wonkywifi | petn-randall no sir |
| 23:08.29 | babilen | Wonkywifi: You typically have to install the -dev package |
| 23:08.40 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: you're *building* stuff, you need the developer packages |
| 23:08.40 | Wonkywifi | ok, thanks |
| 23:08.43 | Kirito | It starts and appears to run fine, but I can't receive mail. |
| 23:08.52 | Wonkywifi | ahhh! :P |
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| 23:09.39 | thaicares | phogg I'm a little ignorant about a lot of this stuff could you be more specific? |
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| 23:10.41 | thaicares | I was afraid I actually got a virus :/ because it is almost like clock work... if the computer is on for a little while the internet decides it will stop working!!! |
| 23:10.57 | phogg | thaicares: yes. ifdown wlan0 ; modprobe -r iwlagn ; sleep 3 ; modprobe ilwagn ; ifup wlan0 ; sleep 5 ; # try that, presuming intel wireless |
| 23:11.21 | phogg | thaicares: you have to ask yourself "What does rebooting do that fixes it?" |
| 23:11.42 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: (I assume you have no programming background) A library is just a binary, like an executable, so you can't read what's in there. But when you're compiling, you need to know at least how the stuff inside the library is to be called ("executed"). To do that without recompiling the library every time you compile something that needs that, you use what's called a "header", which is a file that only describes the interface provided by the library. The |
| 23:12.06 | phogg | thaicares: in my case this works around bugginess in the intel driver by forcing it to re-load, and loading is what you're doing on boot anyway |
| 23:12.10 | thaicares | ifconfig wlan0 up : returns an error if the wifi has crapped out... |
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| 23:12.40 | Kirito | Is there any way I can downgrade glibc back to the stable release without destroying the entire system or no? |
| 23:12.42 | phogg | thaicares: even after forcibly removing and re-probing the module? |
| 23:12.48 | phogg | thaicares: what does rfkill say? |
| 23:12.50 | thaicares | phogg does that mean I have to do that everytime I want the internet to work again? |
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| 23:13.20 | petn-randall | Kirito: downgrading is not supported. You can try, but make backups since it can easily hose your system. |
| 23:13.22 | thaicares | phogg I haven't tried it yet I was just letting you know that ifconfig wlan0 up returns an error |
| 23:13.39 | phogg | thaicares: potentially, yes. On my problem system I eventually wrote a little shell script to detect a hung network, tear down and re-connect and then had it run every 5 seconds. Little hiccups still hurt but at least it all comes back. |
| 23:13.42 | FungiFox | everyone stand up, push your chairs in and go outside. its nice today. |
| 23:13.45 | Kirito | petn-randall, So is Dovecot going to remain indefinitely broken if I don't? |
| 23:13.59 | Kirito | I don't see any other option here. |
| 23:14.24 | phogg | thaicares: That's why I didn't include that. First we take the interface down, then reprobe the module, then back up. Totally different from just trying to up it. But seriously, what does 'rfkill list' say? |
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| 23:15.27 | thaicares | phogg 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no |
| 23:15.37 | phogg | thaicares: good, then that's not a problem |
| 23:15.52 | thaicares | BUT I am on the computer right now and it has wifi right now :D |
| 23:15.53 | Wonkywifi | nvteighen: Thanks for that; I was determined to get away from ubuntu, but it's all new to me ... libcurlpp-dev has not fixed it, and there's no libcurl3-dev listed in synaptic |
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| 23:16.05 | thaicares | so phogg it could be the problem! |
| 23:16.15 | thaicares | correct? |
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| 23:16.37 | Kirito | sighs |
| 23:16.39 | phogg | thaicares: yes. Try it next time it goes down. If it says hard blocked: yes then that's a problem |
| 23:16.44 | Kirito | Okay then, I'll just risk hosing my system, thanks |
| 23:16.54 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: what are you trying to compile? |
| 23:16.55 | thaicares | so |
| 23:17.17 | Wonkywifi | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.30 | nvteighen | source? |
| 23:17.35 | Kirito | How can I force a package to downgrade then? |
| 23:17.42 | thaicares | so.... reprobing and stuff is only going to help if, hard bocked = yes? |
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| 23:18.05 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: sorry, where's the source for it? |
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| 23:18.32 | Wonkywifi | please wait, trying to find it |
| 23:18.34 | thaicares | phogg: so.... reprobing and stuff is only going to help if, hard bocked = yes? |
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| 23:18.53 | phogg | thaicares: No. You might need to unblock in addition to the rest. |
| 23:19.03 | Wonkywifi | http://www.maxcoin.co.uk/downloads/maxcoin-cpuminer.zip |
| 23:19.24 | phogg | thaicares: You might be able to *just* unblock and re-ifup, but not likely from your description. |
| 23:19.28 | thaicares | phogg: you mean ifconfig wlan0 up ?? |
| 23:19.57 | phogg | thaicares: I never use ifconfig directly, ifup is more convenient. |
| 23:20.00 | Kirito | How can I force Debian to install the stable release of glibc without uninstalling half my system, please? |
| 23:20.30 | thaicares | phogg how would I unblock? |
| 23:21.04 | phogg | thaicares: man rfkill. Briefly: rfkill unblock 0 |
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| 23:23.21 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: how were you installing libcurl-dev? (btw, on which Debian branch are you?) |
| 23:23.35 | Kirito | E: Version 'glibc-2.13-1' for 'libc6' was not found // Really don't understand what I'm doing wrong here. |
| 23:23.41 | Wonkywifi | I'm on SolydX |
| 23:24.04 | petn-randall | !solydx |
| 23:24.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, solydx is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on debian> with the XFCE desktop environment. It is not supported in #debian. http://solydxk.com/products/solydx/ |
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| 23:24.29 | nvteighen | petn-randall: thanks |
| 23:24.38 | Wonkywifi | nvteighen: and my synaptic has no libcurl-dev.... unless I go for libcurl4 |
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| 23:24.59 | Neobenedict | what's the default pass for 7.3 |
| 23:25.20 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: Do you mean the live CD? |
| 23:25.21 | Neobenedict | debian-7.3.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 23:25.21 | themill | Neobenedict: the one you typed into the installer |
| 23:25.23 | phogg | Wonkywifi: I'd stop there if I were you. Not supported is not supported, period. |
| 23:25.26 | Neobenedict | i didn't type one in |
| 23:25.28 | Neobenedict | i missed it out |
| 23:25.36 | Neobenedict | forgot about it |
| 23:25.42 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: At least on my Debian testing box, to get libcurl dev headers, you must choose between the OpenSSL, the NSS or the GnuTLS implementations... I chose the first one and configure exited succesfully |
| 23:25.51 | Wonkywifi | phogg: oh no! |
| 23:25.52 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: There is no default, only the one you provided. |
| 23:26.05 | Neobenedict | so i must reinstall then? |
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| 23:26.37 | Wonkywifi | nvteighen: thanks very much, i'll try openssl |
| 23:26.45 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: Easiest and safest way would be to reinstall, since we don't know what else failed during installation. |
| 23:26.52 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: it compiled too |
| 23:27.00 | Kirito | Reinstallation of libc6 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 23:27.02 | Wonkywifi | nvteighen: :) |
| 23:27.05 | Kirito | I'm growing tired of this. |
| 23:27.08 | Neobenedict | ok. |
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| 23:27.46 | petn-randall | Kirito: You got a frankendebian, that's close to impossible to fix. |
| 23:27.55 | petn-randall | !frankendebian |
| 23:27.55 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 23:28.18 | Kirito | petn-randall, So because I upgraded one single package, my entire system is fucked? |
| 23:28.26 | petn-randall | Kirito: Only way out is either to upgrade to a defined release, or reinstall. |
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| 23:28.39 | petn-randall | Kirito: Do you have backups? |
| 23:29.04 | Kirito | Did I back up my entire system before upgrading glibc? No. I didn't expect one upgrade to destroy everything |
| 23:29.34 | petn-randall | !downgrade |
| 23:29.34 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 23:30.05 | petn-randall | Kirito: ^^^^ you can try this, but there is a chance to hose your system with it, which is why you should have backups. |
| 23:30.34 | Kirito | Unable to find a version "2.13-1" for the package "libc6" |
| 23:30.38 | Kirito | That's the latest version. |
| 23:30.42 | Kirito | In stable, no? |
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| 23:31.03 | petn-randall | Kirito: Read what dpkg said, it tells you how to find the version number. |
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| 23:34.14 | Wonkywifi | nvteighen: It compiled, thanks so much for your help, I've learned a lot tonight. cheers! |
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| 23:34.40 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: :) |
| 23:36.16 | babilen | Kirito: libc6 is one of if not thee most important library on your system .. you don't just simple change to a new major version for that one |
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| 23:36.29 | alanaya | dicks |
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| 23:36.57 | Kirito | babilen, yes, I understand that now. I'll be sure to never do that again if I ever get this fixed. |
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| 23:37.30 | GIVEBACKROTMG_ | give us our game back |
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| 23:37.36 | justreload | sup |
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| 23:37.40 | justreload | so um |
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| 23:37.47 | Frozi | gnaa |
| 23:37.49 | Frozi | yo |
| 23:37.49 | EzraL | GNAA |
| 23:37.49 | OneDay | GNAA |
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| 23:37.50 | Moosomeguy | Hello? |
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| 23:37.50 | Rhin | yeah |
| 23:37.51 | justreload | so guys |
| 23:37.51 | srtanker | GNAA |
| 23:37.52 | niko | babilen: +q $~a r a bit |
| 23:37.54 | Moosomeguy | Gnaa |
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| 23:37.54 | Rhin | gnaa |
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| 23:37.55 | Frozi | Whats up guys? |
| 23:37.55 | OneDay | Hello? |
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| 23:37.57 | justreload | WHATS GOING ON NIGGA |
| 23:37.57 | Moosomeguy | GNAA |
| 23:37.58 | OneDay | Anyone here? |
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| 23:37.59 | Lulzor | swat y |
| 23:38.00 | Frozi | Yea |
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| 23:38.02 | Moosomeguy | howdy |
| 23:38.03 | Frozi | Whats going on guys? |
| 23:38.04 | Rhin | swatsec pls |
| 23:38.05 | babilen | niko: yeah |
| 23:38.05 | GIVEBACKROTMG_ | GIVE US BACK OUR GAME |
| 23:38.06 | Wonkywifi | phogg: sorry if i broke your rules, but a man could die of old age waiting for help in #solydxk |
| 23:38.08 | Lulzor | PM Me for info before you +0 the channel |
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| 23:38.10 | boomzap | whats going on plz>? |
| 23:38.12 | OneDay | SWAT Y U DO THIS TO US :'( |
| 23:38.13 | Lulzor | PM Me for info before you +o the channel |
| 23:38.13 | GIVEBACKROTMG_ | give us back our game please!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:38.14 | Guest28199 | What the fuck happened with rotmg? |
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| 23:38.20 | GIVEBACKROTMG_ | pleASE HELP! |
| 23:38.21 | The_ | dafuq |
| 23:38.24 | quackeres | nice chat guys |
| 23:38.25 | justreload | NIGGA |
| 23:38.26 | Rhin | I hope Kabam got fucked this time, haha. |
| 23:38.26 | GIVEBACKROTMG_ | PLEASE SWAT WHY SWAT WHY! |
| 23:38.27 | justreload | NIGAA |
| 23:38.29 | Frozi | Dunno, some old fast ass gay guy wanned to suddently hack it... |
| 23:38.29 | justreload | NIGGA |
| 23:38.31 | justreload | NIGGA |
| 23:38.36 | The_ | huh. |
| 23:38.37 | centrx | !ops |
| 23:38.37 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
| 23:38.37 | Frozi | he must be over 40 |
| 23:38.38 | quackeres | so much raggge |
| 23:38.38 | justreload | GIVE ME BACK ROTMG |
| 23:38.43 | centrx | !ops trolls |
| 23:38.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: centrx complains about: trolls |
| 23:38.45 | The_ | Well I had to admit swats pretty cool |
| 23:38.48 | Frozi | ANd whats the point of this chatt? |
| 23:38.51 | The_ | FROZI |
| 23:38.53 | The_ | FROZ |
| 23:38.54 | The_ | ITS ME |
| 23:38.55 | Frozi | Well.. Hess not |
| 23:38.56 | justreload | GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG |
| 23:38.56 | Guest28199 | Why the fuck would they want to hack this game? |
| 23:38.56 | The_ | TRIADSLAVE |
| 23:38.57 | Moosomeguy | so then |
| 23:38.57 | justreload | GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK RO |
| 23:38.58 | justreload | GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG GIVE ME BACK ROTMG |
| 23:38.58 | GIVEBACKROTMG_ | U FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER ASSHOLE BITCH SHITHEAD JACKASS |
| 23:38.59 | Frozi | What? |
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| 23:39.00 | Frozi | Iam frozi |
| 23:39.01 | The_ | TRIADSLAVE ITS ME!!!!!!!! |
| 23:39.01 | Guest28199 | As if it was something so damn special |
| 23:39.04 | Rhin | Kabam: MoneyWhores |
| 23:39.04 | quackeres | the chat is so swat can watch peeps rage |
| 23:39.05 | Frozi | Oooh |
| 23:39.05 | The_ | FROZ |
| 23:39.06 | Rhin | lel |
| 23:39.07 | Frozi | Hi triad |
| 23:39.10 | The_ | :D |
| 23:39.13 | evelynn | ;D |
| 23:39.13 | GIVEBACKROTMG_ | give us back rotgm |
| 23:39.15 | Frozi | This swat |
| 23:39.17 | evelynn | hi guys |
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| 23:39.22 | Frozi | must be a fat old man |
| 23:39.22 | evelynn | damn i hate this swatsec dude |
| 23:39.23 | GIVEBACKROTMG_ | GIVE IT BACK |
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| 23:39.24 | The_ | I have to admit swats pretty cool |
| 23:39.26 | Rhin | Hey, givebackrotmg, can you not? thx |
| 23:39.27 | nullfaith | I have not seen that on freenode in quite some time. |
| 23:39.29 | tengri | why the fuck is this happening on every fucking channel |
| 23:39.29 | The_ | but you dont have to hack realm |
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| 23:39.30 | Moosomeguy | Is swat even in here? |
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| 23:41.37 | nullfaith | ... |
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| 23:42.06 | abrotman | much better |
| 23:42.09 | Nik05 | just wanted to say that... ban webchat |
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| 23:43.16 | centrx | So, how about that local sports team |
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| 23:44.49 | Kirito | Okay well even after downgrading glibc Dovecot and Postfix don't work |
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| 23:44.54 | Kirito | so I guess I'm fucked, eh? |
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| 23:46.09 | nkuttler | Kirito: how did you downgrade, from which to which version, and how do they not work? |
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| 23:46.32 | Kirito | nkuttler, aptitude install libc-bin=2.13-38 libc6=2.13-38 locales=2.13-38 libc6-dev=2.13-38 libc6-i386=2.13.38 libc-dev-bin=2.13-38 |
| 23:46.56 | Kirito | "virtual_alias_maps map lookup problem" is spammed in mail.log |
| 23:47.13 | petn-randall | Wonkywifi: That's why you should install any "esoteric" Linux distros, they have virtually no tech support :) |
| 23:47.31 | petn-randall | Kirito: Maybe it's enough to restart them. |
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| 23:47.46 | Kirito | petn-randall, I restarted the entire system |
| 23:47.58 | abrotman | looks at eir ... |
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| 23:48.19 | abrotman | bleh, /me extended the wrong ban |
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| 23:49.16 | Wonkywifi | petn-randall: That may well be true, but I tried Debians XFCE spin *first* and guess what it wouldn't even run in live mode on my netbook |
| 23:49.42 | Wonkywifi | so I found a nice distro that worked out of the box |
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| 23:50.28 | petn-randall | Wonkywifi: "didn't run". You mean wifi? |
| 23:50.38 | babilen | Wonkywifi: You probably just need firmware, see "/msg dpkg firmware image". But then we really don't support any other distribution beside Debian in here, so ... |
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| 23:50.55 | babilen | Wonkywifi: But please be more specific about what exactly didn't run or work :) |
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| 23:51.29 | Wonkywifi | I mean, it didn't even boot in live mode, so wasn't much to be done |
| 23:51.38 | Wonkywifi | just saying, not here to argue..... |
| 23:52.21 | petn-randall | Wonkywifi: the live images get a lot less testing than the installer does, so I can't really vouch for it. |
| 23:53.35 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: UEFI? |
| 23:53.37 | Wonkywifi | Alright, well, a kind user here helped me out tonight, even if I'm not "pure" debian, and for that i'm grateful. I bid you goodnight from Portugal |
| 23:54.01 | nvteighen | Wonkywifi: goodnight from your neighboring Spain :) |
| 23:54.09 | Wonkywifi | UEFI? |
| 23:54.11 | nmschulte | Does anyone know if the Dell Data Protection | Encryption (DDPE) Hardware Crypto Accelerator has any Linux support? |
| 23:54.27 | babilen | Wonkywifi: Please accept that we do not support anything but Debian for social and technical reasons. Please don't abuse the channel. Thank you and good night! |
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| 23:54.46 | Wonkywifi | ffs you sad fucker |
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| 23:55.17 | petn-randall | err ... |
| 23:55.44 | nvteighen | uh, that was unexpected |
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| 23:55.51 | abrotman | was it? |
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| 23:56.03 | storge | greeting folks. upon a failed attempt to install console-tools, i discovered this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671342 ...my symptom is this: http://paste.debian.net/80368/ ...and i don't know how to fix it. |
| 23:56.56 | petn-randall | !jessie |
| 23:56.56 | dpkg | The release following Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" is codenamed "Jessie" (the cowgirl in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 8.0. It is the current <testing> distribution. Use the #debian-next channel on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net) for support. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00004.html . See also <jessie freeze>. |
| 23:57.05 | petn-randall | storge: Check out the other channel ^^^ |
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| 23:57.29 | storge | petn-randall: huh? oh debian-next, ok thank you. |
| 23:57.53 | storge | petn-randall: it says i must be invited to join there |
| 23:57.55 | petn-randall | storge: yes, but on irc.oftc.net. |
| 23:58.02 | abrotman | it does say that .. |
| 23:58.07 | storge | oh crap |
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| 23:58.42 | centrx | storge, It is on OFTC, a different IRC network |
| 23:59.44 | storge | i can't seem to join it. curious why it's not on freenode |
