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| 00:01.12 | themill | eshlox: you can probably directly grab the package from unstable, but I have to say I'm surprised to see #737511 not tagged security so you might not want to do so anyway |
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| 00:03.04 | Yoshi1 | bah a reboot didnt fix it neither did a complete removal and reinstall of gdebi |
| 00:03.21 | themill | perhaps you could show output? |
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| 00:03.43 | themill | (also, why are you installing packages with gdebi in the first place?) |
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| 00:10.44 | Yoshi1 | themill: because it is simpler and usually works |
| 00:11.03 | Yoshi1 | you know gui being simpler then console |
| 00:11.38 | Yoshi1 | why over complicate a thing |
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| 00:12.10 | Devastator | I always thought the opposite, console being simpler |
| 00:12.14 | centrx | console is simpler than GUI... |
| 00:12.24 | Waxhead | I agree console is way simpler |
| 00:13.30 | themill | Yoshi1: no, installing packages with apt is simpler, and text-based programs give output you can share with us... if you don't supply information, you won't get answers |
| 00:14.17 | Yoshi1 | themill: when you download a deb from a site like dosbox gdebi is simpler to use |
| 00:14.32 | Yoshi1 | no console = simpler and easier |
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| 00:14.48 | themill | no output == no help |
| 00:15.10 | koell | browsing the web is way simpler with a gui than a console, just saying :) |
| 00:15.19 | centrx | Yoshi1, dosbox is in the Debian repository, you don't need to download it from a website... |
| 00:15.22 | Yoshi1 | themill: well console wont help anyway dpkg doesnt give the error gdebi does |
| 00:15.42 | themill | Yoshi1: that's nice. |
| 00:15.51 | Yoshi1 | it's annoying |
| 00:16.15 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: what exactly is your problem anyway? (I just logged on irc) |
| 00:16.24 | themill | so any chance of some output? Or do are you expecting someone to come over to your place to help you personally? |
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| 00:17.15 | Yoshi1 | themill: gdebi doesnt give meany more output then that and i dont know how to diagnose it |
| 00:17.45 | centrx | Yoshi1, What happens when you try installing the package with dpkg? |
| 00:18.08 | Devastator | or aptitude, or apt-get |
| 00:18.10 | Yoshi1 | Waxhead: when i use gdebi to insall a .deb it tells me it s trying to install a non existent package |
| 00:18.17 | Yoshi1 | centrx: it installs |
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| 00:18.42 | centrx | Problem solved! |
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| 00:21.08 | Yoshi1 | centrx: no because being forced to the less convenient option is a serious annoyance |
| 00:21.55 | themill | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.08 | centrx | Yoshi1, Have you tried Synaptic? |
| 00:22.32 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: I don't know gdebi but it sounds like you are not getting sufficient information from gdebi, Have you tried another program (as many suggest) like dpkg -i packagename.deb or have you used a (gui) text editor to open logs and see if that explains anything? |
| 00:23.14 | Yoshi1 | centrx: synaptic works Waxhead yes dpkg works where would gdebi's log be? |
| 00:23.55 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: how would I know, I don't know gdebi. |
| 00:24.28 | Yoshi1 | i have no idea where things put the log files either |
| 00:24.44 | centrx | /var/log |
| 00:25.07 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: and what package are you trying to install (and from where?) |
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| 00:27.21 | Yoshi1 | Waxhead: well this time dosbox from the site i thought maybe it would be more up to date. but it also happened earlier when installing freeoririon |
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| 00:28.24 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: you would be much better off installing dosbox from aptitude (this is a compromise, a console "gui" program) and it is easy to use and very convenient. Is there features you need in a newer dosbox?! |
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| 00:32.38 | \shawn_ | http://hastebin.com/nunojovoco.coffee Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw for module r8169 |
| 00:33.11 | themill | dpkg: tell \shawn_ about apt-file |
| 00:34.05 | Yoshi1 | Waxhead: it was crashingi figured i'd start my atempts to fix it by seeing if there was a more up to date version |
| 00:34.38 | Yoshi1 | Waxhead: and the latest version of freeorion isnt in synatic |
| 00:34.47 | Yoshi1 | synaptic* |
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| 00:35.45 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: Anyway I strongly suggest you deal with package management in the console and use GUI for everything else. From my experience GUI based package management programs is not very good. Why? because the majority are using apt-get or aptitude anyway. |
| 00:36.05 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: If you choose to use aptitude that is very convenient and simpler in the long run. |
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| 00:36.27 | AciD|2 | Waxhead > you would prefer aptitude over apt-get ? |
| 00:36.36 | enkidu | hello. do you know any load balancer present in Debian, that will use http 302 method rather than proxy ? I have two streaming frontends and I would like to distribute load across them |
| 00:36.43 | \shawn_ | ok thanks themill! it worked |
| 00:36.45 | Waxhead | AciD|2: I personally prefer that yes. |
| 00:36.50 | themill | \shawn_: no worries |
| 00:37.36 | Waxhead | enkidu: Not perhaps answering your question but pfsense can do what you want. Not in debian tough ;) |
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| 00:38.36 | \shawn_ | themill, btw thx too for making me switch from crunchbang, i am actually liking gnome-shell even though i originally thought i wouldn't. not that debian cant have openbox on it, i just wanted to try the default DE first and alas it works perfectly! |
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| 00:39.05 | Yoshi1 | Waxhead: except i find going to the console adds several extra steps and is therefore more complicated as long as the gui based programme is functioning |
| 00:39.09 | \shawn_ | well maybe not perfectly but its still way better than expected with a little bit of tweaking |
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| 00:40.02 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: So far it seems that you choice of GUI programs have added extra steps and complexity to your process. |
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| 00:42.46 | Yoshi1 | Waxhead: yeah but i've already had years of functionality where it worked and reduced complexity |
| 00:44.09 | Waxhead | Yoshi1: Then pick the best tool for the (current) job. I gotta get some sleep so goodbye and good luck! |
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| 00:52.38 | Guest64138 | Ok, so. the only thing I have against systemd is a big one. Does SystemD monopolize the kernel's cgroup functionality? |
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| 00:53.09 | abrotman | Spyro: this is not a topic for this channel. |
| 00:53.15 | themill | Spyro: you might want to as #systemd about that; not yet is my understanding. |
| 00:53.17 | Spyro | where should it be discussed? |
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| 00:53.58 | themill | (and when it does, it's because it's a change that is being forced by the kernel developers) |
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| 00:55.22 | Some_Person | What can I do about this? http://i.imgur.com/SdsRi5C.png |
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| 00:55.36 | freq | Some_Person: this: http://bit.ly/1d7A3WV |
| 00:55.48 | themill | Some_Person: are you in the fuse group? |
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| 00:56.42 | themill | freq: please make an effort at being helpful and do try to have a signal:noise > 0. |
| 00:56.56 | Some_Person | themill: Apparently not |
| 00:57.02 | freq | I get it themill |
| 00:57.07 | freq | you want me to help you |
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| 00:58.40 | themill | Some_Person: "adduser yourusername fuse" and log back in (at least it look like that is what the error message is telling you there...) |
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| 01:00.26 | Some_Person | themill: Nope, adding myself to the fuse group didn't fix it |
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| 01:06.40 | thoonai | how Do I install gnome on debian without setting it up for automatic upstart? |
| 01:07.14 | thoonai | even gnome-core contains gdm3 .. |
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| 01:07.41 | thoonai | or do I dont see something important |
| 01:07.46 | thoonai | ? |
| 01:07.55 | centrx | thoonai, gnome-core is a metapackage, so you could install gnome-core (to get all its dependencies) and then uninstall gdm3 and gnome-core (the metapackage) afterwards |
| 01:08.25 | centrx | thoonai, Also, there is probably a configuration option somewhere for gdm to run at boot, if you want to keep gnome-core/gdm3 installed |
| 01:08.42 | thoonai | ok thanks |
| 01:09.28 | Some_Person | Nevermind, I got it. Just had to remove some stuff from fstab |
| 01:10.34 | thoonai | oh and: is there a possibility to tell the debian installer, that I want to mount the rootfs from a vpn nfs server? |
| 01:10.45 | mallxs | after update to wheezy the sticky bit on group doesn't work any more on a nfs mounted ext3; the file gets the users groupname and not that as set on the direcotry; i can't find any info on this .. ? |
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| 01:11.30 | mallxs | as a local user on the file server it does work ! |
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| 01:25.41 | leemar | Can Debian's sysvinit take advantage of cgroups? |
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| 01:26.58 | themill | leemar: sysvinit somewhat pre-dates cgroups. |
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| 01:28.29 | leemar | I see the cgroup-bin Debian package. Anyone use this? |
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| 01:29.30 | themill | ,popcon cgroup-bin |
| 01:29.31 | judd | Popcon data for cgroup-bin: inst: 422, vote: 123, old: 264, recent: 25, nofiles: 10 |
| 01:29.37 | themill | presumably. |
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| 01:33.38 | thoonai | is there a possibility to open a tap device before mounting the / from a nfs sever? |
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| 01:36.00 | seirl | thoonai: well you can, your initramfs is just going to be very complex |
| 01:36.09 | seirl | and heavy |
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| 01:36.46 | thoonai | seirl: for which tags Ive to google? |
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| 01:38.01 | seirl | dunno, search how your initramfs mounts / and try to do the same for you tap device, i guess |
| 01:38.25 | seirl | mounting from nfs shouldn't be that different |
| 01:39.59 | thoonai | can I use the normal netinst for such a thing or do I have assemble it like gentoo ;)? |
| 01:40.16 | seirl | no idea, sorry :P |
| 01:40.21 | thoonai | seirl: :P |
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| 01:41.12 | seirl | thoonai: maybe this is your answer: https://github.com/simonschiele/initramfs-hooks/blob/master/openvpn.sh |
| 01:41.33 | seirl | (or did i miss the point ?) |
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| 01:42.28 | thoonai | seirl: great |
| 01:43.01 | thoonai | looks exactly likw what I want to do, though I want to use peervpn |
| 01:44.40 | thoonai | but I think it has to wait till tomorrow since I want to wake up in 5/6 hours |
| 01:44.46 | thoonai | thanks |
| 01:44.47 | thoonai | :) |
| 01:44.57 | seirl | you're welcome! |
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| 01:46.28 | thoonai | :) |
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| 01:56.19 | nell | "You have selected the root file system to be stored on an encrypted partition. This feature requires a separate /boot partition on which the kernel and initrd can be stored. You should go back and setup a /boot partition." |
| 01:56.30 | nell | But where? I already have 3 partitions on this disk |
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| 01:56.46 | centrx | nell, You can have as many as you need? |
| 01:56.54 | centrx | nell, /boot does not need to be very large |
| 01:56.56 | chimche | Having an issue upgrading openssl. Currently have the debian openssl package 1.0.1e. Need to upgrade to 1.0.1f. I've downloaded it and compiled it to /usr/local/openssl. I've recompiled apache from source using —with-ssl=/usr/local/openssl. The issue is that when restarting apache it's still using the old openssl module. ldd /usr/local/apace2/httpd revels it's pointing at the system one /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and not to /usr/local/op |
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| 01:57.12 | centrx | nell, Usually it used to be recommended that it be at the beginning of the disk, but I doubt that is necessary anymore |
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| 01:57.40 | nell | but what do I do, I already maximized the size |
| 01:57.45 | nell | do i resize a partition |
| 01:57.48 | nell | to make room for a /boot? |
| 01:58.13 | Arrowmaster | im not versed in ctte policy but does there have to be an official announcement after a vote or is seeing the votes just enough? im seeing a lot of claims that systemd has won and will be the init system in jessie but im not seeing anything on the mailing list making it clear |
| 01:58.14 | changeguy | how do I set up backports for squeeze? when I add this to my sources.list: deb http://YOURMIRROR.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports(-sloppy) main, I get an error |
| 01:58.18 | themill | chimche: is the apache you're starting really in /usr/local? |
| 01:58.26 | abrotman | changeguy: are you using squeeze, seriously? |
| 01:58.50 | themill | changeguy: didn't we spend hours helping you upgrade to wheezy yesterday? |
| 01:58.52 | chimche | themill: it's int /usr/local/apache2 yes |
| 01:59.00 | centrx | hehe |
| 01:59.00 | changeguy | abrotman: after I upgraded, X applications cause a bind error and my X restrts |
| 01:59.10 | themill | chimche: are you sure that's the one you're running? |
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| 01:59.33 | chimche | themill: indeed. that's where my /etc/init.d/apache points to. |
| 01:59.34 | changeguy | abrotman: terminal programs run fine, but anything like libreoffice or iceweasle: when I load them, the splash screen displays, then a window gets drawn but right after that my X enviroment crashes |
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| 01:59.54 | themill | changeguy: btw is this desire for a newer openssl due to some braindead PCI auditor? |
| 01:59.59 | changeguy | abrotman: Upgrading my chroot debian must have changed a graphics libary |
| 02:00.14 | chimche | themill: i've compiled it myself so i'm definitely starting the right one and not the system version |
| 02:00.23 | changeguy | themill: no, I want libreoffice on squeeze because wheezy breaks X programs |
| 02:00.49 | changeguy | unless you can help me figure out what package is breaking my X programs and maybe I can "hold" them back from dist-upgrading? |
| 02:00.59 | themill | changeguy: given that you have 3 months of support for squeeze left, perhaps fixing that problem would be better |
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| 02:01.25 | abrotman | changeguy: uh no .. that's not how a chroot works |
| 02:01.54 | changeguy | themill: oh man only 3 months |
| 02:02.01 | Lirion | as a rule of thumb, if you do a -t squeeze-backports dist-upgrade you can forget about a clean upgrade to wheezy, and well - porting your individual configuration files and /usr and /var data/files to a clean new install shouldn't be that much of a problem |
| 02:02.10 | chimche | themill: basically, no matter what i do when i recompile, it seems to use older openssl version and not 1.0.1f. |
| 02:02.22 | changeguy | abrotman: i know how a chroot works. this isnt a chroot problem per se, but a problem that broke X programs when I dist-upgraded |
| 02:03.07 | changeguy | i get a bind error in syslog |
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| 02:03.22 | changeguy | its android specific |
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| 02:04.13 | changeguy | i mean is it possible for me to figure out why I get the crashes on wheezy and not squeeze? |
| 02:04.45 | centrx | changeguy, Have you actually upgraded all your packages to wheezy, or are you in some frankenstein middle state? |
| 02:05.03 | centrx | changeguy, Another idea is it is your video drivers/X configuration |
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| 02:06.37 | changeguy | centrx: yea, I have an image where i fully updated to wheezy completly. everthing was clean |
| 02:07.08 | changeguy | terminal programs ran fine. the problem is that when an X program draws a screen, my X enviroment restarts |
| 02:07.13 | changeguy | the splash screens show fine |
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| 02:10.08 | changeguy | centrx: could it be that the upgrade changed my X configuration from what it was before perhaps? |
| 02:10.54 | centrx | changeguy, Seems unlikely it would do so in a way that would cause a problem. More likely that your old configuration does not work as expected with the new X. |
| 02:11.43 | changeguy | centrx: well I dont think the new X supports my setup: its a tegra 2 - an android phone atrix 4g |
| 02:11.47 | centrx | changeguy, Do you have an xorg.conf file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? That is no longer necessary in most cases. I am not sure if that changeover happend with squeeze->wheezy |
| 02:12.01 | changeguy | centrx: its a weptop - ubuntu jaunty - and im running chroot debian arm |
| 02:12.32 | changeguy | centrx: the debain image im using (squeeze) was custom made for this pactuliar setup |
| 02:12.53 | centrx | Yes, you might need some fancy custom set up to install Debian on a phone |
| 02:13.18 | centrx | changeguy, Have you looked at Emdebian http://www.emdebian.org/ ? |
| 02:13.21 | thims | Why is this returning an error about giving it to many arguments on 29? http://pastebin.com/5LH00JXg |
| 02:13.22 | changeguy | although i dont think he added anything to the debian image per se |
| 02:13.29 | changeguy | no ill see |
| 02:13.32 | thims | Err, sorry. Wrong channel. |
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| 02:16.53 | changeguy | centrx: so you think that the problem may be the upgrade, and that if I started with a fresh debian wheezy it may work? i can load the system fine under VNC as well |
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| 02:17.24 | changeguy | at any rate, can you guys help me get backports going |
| 02:17.37 | centrx | changeguy, I don't know, it sounds like you have to do something special to install on your device. |
| 02:17.43 | changeguy | ill ask about the android bind error on a more apporate channel |
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| 02:18.21 | centrx | changeguy, http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 02:18.38 | changeguy | i know, and i get an error when i do that |
| 02:19.01 | Lirion | what error? |
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| 02:19.37 | changeguy | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/squeeze-backports(-sloppy)/main/binary-armel/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80] |
| 02:20.03 | centrx | Okay that (-sloppy) is not supposed to be part of it |
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| 02:20.09 | changeguy | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports(-sloppy) main is my sources.list |
| 02:20.11 | dvs | changeguy: remove the (-sloppy) part |
| 02:20.12 | Lirion | round brackets shouldn't |
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| 02:20.33 | Okee | Any idea how to fix this? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/80849cc3/ |
| 02:20.57 | changeguy | i still get W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/squeeze-backports/main/binary-armel/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80] |
| 02:22.41 | dvs | changeguy: ftp.us.debian.org works |
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| 02:23.59 | Devastator | dvs I don't see a squeeze-backports folder there, I think squeeze-backports was dropped |
| 02:24.01 | changeguy | dvs: thanks man |
| 02:24.09 | dvs | np |
| 02:24.14 | changeguy | Devastator: the ftp.us works. |
| 02:25.12 | Devastator | odd |
| 02:26.18 | themill | there's no guarantee that each of the ftp.us.d.o mirrors carries the same things |
| 02:26.53 | Devastator | that explains |
| 02:26.58 | changeguy | themill: so thats why I should have used http.debian.org? |
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| 02:27.44 | rjsalts | changeguy: no, http.debian.org suffers the same problem |
| 02:28.03 | themill | http.debian.NET and yes, it will handle that |
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| 02:32.57 | thaicares | I'm using the kwin widow manager with xfce.... I'm not sure if that is effecting it BUT when I was palying with different window managers I lost my other three workspaces in my workspace switcher! I can not change it back to 4 neither! It is stuck at 1 workspace |
| 02:33.00 | thaicares | any help? |
| 02:33.06 | nell | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.10 | nell | i get Missing operating system |
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| 02:39.07 | worstadmin | If I have an lvm and no raid - should "rescue-deb mpt-statusd: detected non-optimal RAID status" worry me? |
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| 02:40.58 | jhutchins | nell: Did you consider reading the install guide? |
| 02:41.02 | jhutchins | !ig |
| 02:41.03 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian 7 "Wheezy" can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual . See also <errata>, <release notes>. |
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| 02:51.50 | Okee | I am still getting an error when running aptitude remove cups: http://paste.debian.net/81090/ |
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| 02:52.55 | centrx | Okee, What is smfpd? |
| 02:53.09 | Okee | centrx> I have no idea. |
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| 02:53.33 | privvy1 | centrx: http://rtg.in.ua/blog/what-is-smfpd/ |
| 02:54.24 | centrx | Okee, Can you remove it? |
| 02:54.57 | themill | might be worth checking the init script of minissdpd |
| 02:55.05 | Okee | centrx> Can you tell me how/ |
| 02:55.07 | Okee | ? |
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| 02:55.47 | centrx | Okee, "I uninstalled the Samsung driver (sudo /opt/Samsung/mfp/uninstall/uninstall.sh). That solved the debian update issues (apt-get upgrade)." - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=69930 |
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| 02:57.13 | Okee | centrx> ok, thanks for letting me know. I am going to see if I can delete smfpd the right way without the force option. It is in the utilities directory. |
| 02:57.39 | abrotman | themill: what is stuff? |
| 02:57.53 | abrotman | hrm .. |
| 02:58.23 | themill | !coffee abrotman |
| 02:58.23 | dpkg | decants a fine mug of organic, fair trade Peruvian for abrotman, courtesy of themill |
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| 02:59.42 | abrotman | I was bot checking! |
| 03:00.05 | themill | Okee: it would be good if you could report a bug against the minissdpd package for depending on $all in the init script (include your pastebin). Nothing is supposed to depend on $all like that |
| 03:01.20 | Okee | themill> I am not so sure it is a bug. My friend who installed the printer driver started going against the standard routine without my permission, after the samsung driver wouldn't install correctly. So now we probably have a bunch of unwanted dependencies, and a windows printer driver that don't belong here. |
| 03:02.03 | DANtheBEASTman | can I run apache in my debian partition in a chroot in another distro? |
| 03:02.19 | themill | Okee: I very much doubt minissdpd's init script should not depend on $all like that |
| 03:03.38 | Okee | themill> He did some weird things with the samsung universal printer driver, so I am not so sure. Someone needs to get the attention of Samsung and tell them to take that thing off of their website. i am running an ML-2510 |
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| 03:08.45 | Niriven | Hi, debian stable do |
| 03:08.57 | dvs | do what? |
| 03:09.37 | Niriven | Hi, debian stable install prompts for wireless firmware which I can install from USB, but debian testing ISO does not, am I missing something? |
| 03:09.56 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Niriven about firmware images |
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| 03:11.13 | Niriven | Coo thanks |
| 03:11.43 | Niriven | I can do that, though I'm wondering if anyone knows why stable will prompt, testing does not |
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| 03:22.08 | thaicares | sorry I keep loosing service! Which I'm thinking must be a hardware problem and NOT Debian although i'm still not sure :/ |
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| 03:23.07 | jordanm | thaicares: dmesg should show you if your physical connection is dropping |
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| 03:24.22 | thaicares | jordanm couldn't it still be a soft issue? I do need to check that though! I thought it was from over heating... but the heat hasn't been bad lately at all!!! |
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| 03:47.47 | Okee | centrx> I took a look at the code for smfpd, and it looks like it might be a binding. I viewed it with cat |
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| 03:50.19 | sexyboy | can you point me to a modern tutorioal about installing debian on a dm-crypt encrypted partition? preferably without the installer, just debootstrap |
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| 03:53.51 | privvy1 | How do I make a self-signed .pem and .key for something like ircd-hybrid? |
| 03:54.15 | cafuego | install tinyca; use that |
| 03:55.41 | privvy1 | cafuego: Do I need anything other than this program? |
| 03:56.00 | cafuego | privvy1: I expect it would come with all the required dependencies. |
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| 03:56.14 | cafuego | ie: openssl :-) |
| 03:56.28 | privvy1 | I'll try it out and report back |
| 03:56.40 | Okee | the mill>Any idea what to do with this: http://paste.debian.net/81096/ |
| 03:57.36 | themill | Okee: it seems confused as to whether you're running as root or not |
| 03:58.11 | Okee | themill> I know it is confused, but I too am confused, and would like to know what to do about it??? |
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| 03:59.10 | themill | Okee: run aptitude as root instead? |
| 03:59.16 | Okee | This computer became so messed up from the Samsung printer driver that I can't even run dpkg -C |
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| 04:04.37 | Okee | themill> Any idea why the audit isn't working: http://paste.debian.net/81097/ ????? |
| 04:04.59 | centrx | Okee, Maybe you need to be root |
| 04:05.24 | Okee | centrx> If you look at the code, it appears to indicate that a valiant attempt at root was made, but to no avail. |
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| 04:07.00 | themill | Okee: your permissions there are really really screwed up |
| 04:08.10 | Okee | themill> No kidding. What is disturbing is that after giving read, write, and execute, the triggers file still won't allow an audit: http://paste.debian.net/81097/ |
| 04:08.32 | themill | what are the modes on the directories above? |
| 04:08.53 | Okee | themill> Are you referring to the triggers file? |
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| 04:10.41 | centrx | Okee, Run dpkg as root |
| 04:10.54 | onitaL | hi |
| 04:11.11 | privvy1 | TinyCa isn't what I wanted |
| 04:11.28 | privvy1 | Trying to make .pem and .key files for a self-signed ircd-hybrid server |
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| 04:12.54 | Okee | centrx> No change, and this is what I get -- a big mess: http://paste.debian.net/81098/ |
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| 04:13.17 | centrx | Okee, Get rid of smfpd... |
| 04:13.50 | Okee | centrx> That is easier said that done. I have been trying for the last hour and feel like I am going in circles. smfpd appears to be a binding. |
| 04:14.04 | themill | or change the init script to not create the loop |
| 04:14.05 | centrx | Okee, What does that mean? |
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| 04:14.23 | Okee | centrx> I ran cat on the file and it says something about bindings........ |
| 04:14.56 | centrx | Okee, What does dpkg -S /etc/init.d/smfpd say |
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| 04:16.11 | Okee | centrx> That is not the right path for smfpd |
| 04:16.32 | Okee | centrx> smfpd is here: dpkg -S /etc/init.d/smfpd |
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| 04:16.52 | Okee | meant to say: /usr/sbin/smfpd |
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| 04:17.38 | centrx | Okee, Okay, try that too. |
| 04:18.00 | centrx | Okee, The script that insserv is running should be in /etc/init.d/smfpd |
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| 04:19.03 | Okee | whereis indicates it is /usr/sbin/smfd but dpkg doesn't find it: http://paste.debian.net/81099/ |
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| 04:19.57 | Okee | This is a better paste: http://paste.debian.net/81100/ |
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| 04:20.57 | centrx | Okee, Was there anything in /opt/Samsung ? |
| 04:21.28 | Okee | centrx> No, nothing like that on this computer: http://paste.debian.net/81101/ |
| 04:21.37 | Okee | centrx> Hold on and I will check /opt |
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| 04:23.59 | Okee | centrx> There is quite a lot in /opt/Samsung, and my question is what to do with it: http://paste.debian.net/81102/ |
| 04:24.35 | centrx | Okee, Probably run /opt/Samsung/mfp/uninstall/uninstall.sh |
| 04:24.51 | centrx | as root |
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| 04:25.19 | Okee | centrx> With dpkg or aptitude? |
| 04:25.33 | centrx | Okee, It is a bash script |
| 04:26.01 | centrx | Okee, The Samsung driver installed /usr/sbin/smfpd and /etc/init.d/smfpd etc. outside of the Debian package management system |
| 04:26.28 | centrx | Okee, That is evidently causing the cups install to fail |
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| 04:27.30 | Okee | centrx> I couldn't agree more. |
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| 04:30.37 | Okee | centrx> That did it, and things appears to be moving in the right direction. |
| 04:30.44 | centrx | Marvellous! |
| 04:31.29 | Okee | I have uninstalled and reinstalled cups, and everything looks ok. Now the question is how to get the printer to work. |
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| 04:32.53 | Okee | Samsung's Linux drivers appear to be a little rough. seems like there are fewer issues with HP. However, the Samsung hardware is excellent. |
| 04:33.27 | genewitch | sorry for rejoins |
| 04:34.15 | centrx | Okee, Since it looks like the printer is several years old, there must be a native/open-source Linux driver for it now |
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| 04:35.26 | Okee | centrx> all I can say is good luck. The native one on Samsung's site is a big mess. It indicates it is Linux, but the documentation says it is windows, and it runs in emulation mode only. That is the 2009 driver. I haven't tried the earlier ones prior to 2009, but that is next on my list of things to do. |
| 04:36.08 | Okee | centrx> Supposedly this is both a scanner and a printer drivers; hence the name Unified. |
| 04:36.29 | centrx | Okee, Have you seen http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=printer-driver-splix |
| 04:36.33 | Okee | centrx> Where you thinking of OpenPrinting GL? |
| 04:36.41 | centrx | Okee, http://splix.ap2c.org/ |
| 04:37.19 | centrx | Okee, Or the printer may understand Postscript or PCL.. |
| 04:37.48 | Okee | centrx> The printer is definitely on the website you provided me. Give me a couple of minutes to check things out. |
| 04:37.53 | centrx | :) |
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| 04:41.05 | Okee | centrx> Looks like it is already in the repos: http://paste.debian.net/81103/ I went ahead and installed it. |
| 04:41.13 | Okee | Thanks for your help. This solved a big problem. |
| 04:41.28 | centrx | Excellent! |
| 04:41.33 | centrx | You are welcome |
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| 04:42.26 | Okee | centrx> I have a question about chntpw. My friend told me I can use this to recover windows passwords from a linux disk. How do I make a disk for this? Do I install it first? Or just download it and burn it to disk: http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/chntpw/download |
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| 04:43.42 | centrx | Okee, I am not sure |
| 04:44.03 | centrx | Okee, If it is on the same computer, I don't think you need to make a CD to boot from |
| 04:44.18 | centrx | Okee, You can probably just run it while Linux is running, in which case it is just a normal Debian package you can install |
| 04:44.48 | Okee | centrx> I would like to make a live cd that includes this tool, so that I can use it remotely. |
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| 04:50.16 | centrx | Okee, Maybe just use the image from http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/ |
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| 04:53.16 | Okee | centrx> The style of that website looks awfully familiar, and I am wondering if this is the same guy from Europe who wrote "Hack NT"? This was an amazingly simple tool that usually involved booting from a floppy, and hitting return 2-3 times. |
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| 05:46.49 | themill | bdf: yes, because it's a redirector not a round-robin |
| 05:46.58 | bdf | ah |
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| 06:00.38 | JohnnyL | What is the API call to control CPU usage? say i want 4 of my cores to use a max of 40% at a time. |
| 06:01.21 | Deesl | are we talking hypervisor? |
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| 06:01.30 | JohnnyL | i don't know are we? |
| 06:01.44 | JohnnyL | i was looking at getrlimit and hrumping to myself. |
| 06:01.59 | JohnnyL | 64 bit, > 2.6 |
| 06:01.59 | sarlalian | you are probably looking for cgroups |
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| 06:03.51 | enkidu | yes, you can |
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| 06:04.18 | enkidu | I am using cgroups to separate processes on my really old streaming server |
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| 06:08.34 | JohnnyL | wow |
| 06:08.40 | JohnnyL | this is great. thank you guys. |
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| 06:10.08 | sarlalian | JohnnyL: you can limit cpu, memory, disk / network io, etc |
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| 06:12.56 | G|ass | so cgroups is like the power options on windows 7 ? |
| 06:12.59 | JohnnyL | that come standard with ubuntu/debian? |
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| 06:33.20 | chimche | would anyone know reason why i'd received the following warning/error when starting apache after upgrading openssl: /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd) |
| 06:33.46 | nightfly | because you removed the version of libssl your apache was using |
| 06:33.58 | nightfly | ie, you should get a new apache |
| 06:35.05 | chimche | nightfly: right, but I recompiled apache from source |
| 06:35.09 | buu | chimche: Did you upgrade it using apt? |
| 06:35.11 | buu | ... |
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| 06:35.30 | chimche | buu: no, compiled new version of openssl with new version of apache |
| 06:36.17 | chimche | buu: the good news is that it's seeing the openssl module (1.0.1f), it's just throwing those warnings on restart of apache |
| 06:38.03 | chimche | nightfly: also, i overwrote the version that apache was originally using intentionally so there aren't multiple copies. i recompiled apache right after. ldd /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd shows it's all pointing to the right place |
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| 06:38.34 | nightfly | did you reconfigure before you rebuillt? |
| 06:38.34 | chimche | restarting apache shows the new version so it definitely works, but the warnings are still thrown for some reaosn. |
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| 06:38.49 | chimche | i did yes. and did make clean make distclean too |
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| 07:30.22 | newvegas | have machine with an x1950 pro but gnome3 will go to fallback mode. would someone recommend a decent video card that will do light gaming, video acceleration for cheap? I don't care if it's used |
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| 08:37.46 | changeguy | ok so i have up to date android browsers, and ubuntu jaunty with fire fox 8 as browser choices. firefox has update channels listed in jaunty and flash works. should i use mobile browsers for more security or stick to firefox 8? |
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| 08:40.59 | petern_ | Is that related to Debian? |
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| 08:41.06 | changeguy | no |
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| 08:57.53 | dachi | hi. Error while loading shared libraries: libffi.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Possible to install it? |
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| 09:13.47 | hastrolog | hi |
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| 09:15.20 | hastrolog | i wonder: why are there dvd-1 dvd-2 dvd-3 @http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 09:15.41 | khorben_dallas | loopholette is flooding |
| 09:15.50 | khorben_dallas | why? |
| 09:16.21 | hastrolog | which one is best choice |
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| 09:16.33 | goncalo1 | hi! |
| 09:16.46 | Iridos | dpkg, tell dachi about apt-file |
| 09:17.17 | Iridos | has.... |
| 09:17.41 | Iridos | well, guess hastrolog still has to learn the art of patience |
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| 09:18.26 | goncalo1 | I am trying to install debian 7.3 on a pentium 3. The problem is the installation aborts imediately, I put the CD on the tray, the install gui flashes for a fraction of a second and then a command line comes up saying "aborted" and a promp saying"boot:" what can I do? |
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| 09:18.59 | Iridos | dachi, is this testing that you're running? |
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| 09:19.22 | dachi | I have a haskell application for linux 64 and I can't run it |
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| 09:19.34 | dachi | so i backed up my drive and I am compiling it |
| 09:19.43 | dachi | then I'll copy an executable and restore a backup |
| 09:19.45 | Iridos | testing==jessie |
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| 09:24.20 | Iridos | goncalo1, but that means you are past the initial choice asking you for graphical/non-graphical install... perhaps try the non-graphical one? |
| 09:24.56 | goncalo1 | Iridos: I have tried all choices, even expert and the same result comes |
| 09:25.10 | Iridos | but the kernel finishes booting? |
| 09:25.39 | goncalo1 | Iridos: how can I check that?i don't know |
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| 09:27.01 | Iridos | perhaps try switching to a terminal with ctrl-F2 or so... |
| 09:27.10 | Iridos | right now I cannot imagine what's going wrong there at all |
| 09:27.29 | Iridos | maybe partly because it's not clear to me where things fail |
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| 09:27.48 | goncalo1 | Iridos: nothin happens.. I have a prompt like this "boot:" |
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| 09:28.21 | Iridos | pentium 3 is quite old... perhaps try if squeeze installs... then can upgrade that to wheezy? |
| 09:28.24 | Iridos | dpkg, squeeze |
| 09:28.24 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian 6.0, released on 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a . Squeeze is the three-eyed space alien. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze and ask me about <install squeeze> <squeeze release notes> <lenny->squeeze>. Currently <6.0.8>. The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
| 09:28.39 | Iridos | dpkg install squeeze |
| 09:28.39 | dpkg | Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" installation images are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/6.0.8/ . Note that this release has been superseded by Debian 7 "Wheezy", ask me about <install debian>. |
| 09:29.12 | goncalo1 | Iridos: ok, thank you! |
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| 09:29.33 | Iridos | goncalo1, it may also be worthwhile to ask again in some hours, when it's a bit more busy here... perhaps others have a better idea |
| 09:30.15 | FungiFox | whats the problem? |
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| 09:31.04 | FungiFox | oh, aborting installation? and he is gone anyway so fkit. |
| 09:31.12 | FungiFox | my job here is done. |
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| 09:38.59 | no_gravity | Good Morning from Germany! |
| 09:39.05 | no_gravity | How would you guys rename every file that is like "Something-else" to "else-Something"? |
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| 09:39.53 | petn-randall | no_gravity: check out 'rename', you can batch rename files with regexes. |
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| 09:41.16 | bl_ | hey guys what are the chances of installing a wifi printer? brother DCP-J140W |
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| 09:41.55 | JeffJohnson | 79% |
| 09:42.09 | vimel | bl_: try system-config-printer and see if theres a driver. |
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| 09:43.46 | bl_ | vimel: nah just pdf |
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| 09:57.02 | ws2k3 | Hello, i' having an issue with mrtg, cfgmaker seems unable to generate a working config for a device running snmp |
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| 09:58.24 | ws2k3 | but snmpwalk -v 2c -c public localhost seems to do just fine |
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| 10:04.22 | Lady_Aleena | Is there anyone here who uses Wheezy and KDE's KMail? If yes, what version of KMail do you have? |
| 10:05.18 | petern_ | ,version kmail |
| 10:05.19 | judd | Package: kmail on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.7-3; wheezy: 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1; jessie: 4:4.11.5-1; sid: 4:4.11.5-1 |
| 10:05.26 | lex|work | ,version i3 |
| 10:05.27 | judd | Package: i3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.e-bf1-2; squeeze-backports: 4.2-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 4.2-2; wheezy-backports: 4.7.2-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 4.7.2-1; sid: 4.7.2-1 |
| 10:05.52 | Lady_Aleena | So why do I only have 1.13.7? |
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| 10:10.33 | Lady_Aleena | My KMail is buggy and the earliest version KDE's bug reporter accepts is 4.10.5. |
| 10:11.17 | jelly | Lady_Aleena: which package does your kmail binary belong to? |
| 10:11.30 | Lady_Aleena | jelly, how do I find that? |
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| 10:12.33 | jelly | Lady_Aleena: "which kmail" will tell you the path to the binary. "dpkg -S /path/to/said/kmail" will show which package brought it |
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| 10:14.11 | Lady_Aleena | jelly, kmail: /usr/bin/kmail |
| 10:15.29 | jelly | Lady_Aleena: you can check the package version now that you know the package name |
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| 10:16.39 | Lady_Aleena | jelly, -v or -V on dpkg? |
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| 10:17.33 | jelly | Lady_Aleena: dunno what those do, I usually check the package status with dpkg -s kmail |
| 10:18.31 | Lady_Aleena | jelly, I was just guessing -v or -V might be version. |
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| 10:19.05 | jelly | Lady_Aleena: one of those might indeed show the version of dpkg itself! |
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| 10:21.05 | Lady_Aleena | dpkg -s kmail says I have "Version: 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1" however Help -> About KMail says I have "Version 1.13.7 Using KDE Development Platform 4.8.4 (4.8.4)". There's a mismatch somewhere. |
| 10:21.05 | dpkg | There is no record of a kmail says I have "Version: 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1" however Help -> About KMail says I have "Version 1.13.7 Using KDE Development Platform 4.8.4 (4.8.4)". There's a mismatch somewhere. package |
| 10:21.20 | Lady_Aleena | face palms. |
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| 10:25.33 | jelly | Lady_Aleena: ignoring the epoch number before the colon, it seems you have something like 4.4.11.1 |
| 10:26.08 | Lady_Aleena | jelly, yet when I do get the program open it says I have only 1.13.7. |
| 10:26.28 | jelly | amusing, innit |
| 10:27.15 | Lady_Aleena | jelly, not when KMail is buggy and I can't fix it. |
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| 10:29.49 | petn-randall | Lady_Aleena: It's best practice to report the bug to Debian's BTS, since the maintainer may have diverged from upstream, and only he knows best if the bug applies to his patches or upstream. |
| 10:30.15 | jelly | Lady_Aleena: my guess would be the application itself was versioned 1.13.7 and it came as part of KDE PIM suite 4.4.11.1 |
| 10:30.30 | jelly | and KDE 4.8.whatever's in wheezy |
| 10:30.49 | Lady_Aleena | KMail is buggy, KPatience crashes, and KDE's interface is so inflexible I can't make it pretty. |
| 10:31.40 | jelly | my experience with kmail 2-3 years back was similar; thunderbird, er, icedove, might be a saner choice |
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| 10:32.21 | Lady_Aleena | jelly, if there were only a sane way to migrate my email over to something else. So far, the only thing I've found is a nightmare. |
| 10:33.09 | Iridos | Lady_Aleena, doesn't kmail use maildir format? |
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| 10:33.40 | Lady_Aleena | Iridos, I don't know. I was doing some major guessing when I was setting it up. |
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| 10:35.10 | Lady_Aleena | I came from Outlook 2003 which stored everything in one file. |
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| 10:36.32 | mikunos | hi guys just a question: I have a dell server with 8GB of RAM but the OS version is at 32bit and not 64bit. I have installed the kernel module to help the system to recognize the 8GB of RAM but seems that the OS doesn't read all the ram available. What have I to do? |
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| 10:37.30 | bazhang | pae? |
| 10:37.43 | mikunos | yes bazhang |
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| 10:37.57 | bazhang | pae should do it then |
| 10:40.08 | mikunos | bazhang: 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 10:41.13 | mikunos | http://min.us/i/bmYCKxy5tzk5a |
| 10:41.32 | mikunos | so why it consume only 4GB? ^^ |
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| 10:43.12 | abrotman | mikunos: verify bios can see it |
| 10:43.16 | g105b | Real newbie question here: I'm trying to upgrade php5 to version 5.5 - I have added the repo in sources.list, done apt-get update, then apt-get install php5, but the version hasn't increased... |
| 10:43.28 | abrotman | added the repo? |
| 10:43.32 | mikunos | abrotman ok |
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| 10:43.55 | abrotman | judd: versions php5 |
| 10:43.56 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze18; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u7; jessie: 5.5.8+dfsg-3; sid: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; experimental: 5.6.0~alpha1+dfsg-1 |
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| 10:44.04 | Rovanion | Can I remount / as read only to make an image of just the root partition, excluding home, while the system is running? Or should I start up a live CD for that? |
| 10:44.39 | g105b | abrotman: How do I upgrade the version? No need for sources.list ? |
| 10:44.55 | abrotman | what repo did you add? |
| 10:45.01 | g105b | abrotman: dotdeb |
| 10:45.06 | abrotman | ugh |
| 10:45.11 | jelly | Rovanion: you can, but your apps or services may misbehave |
| 10:45.12 | abrotman | runs away |
| 10:45.17 | g105b | abrotman: http://packages.dotdeb.org wheezy all |
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| 10:45.43 | g105b | abrotman: please direct me to what I should di |
| 10:45.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell g105b about dotdeb |
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| 10:47.32 | Rovanion | jelly: It's just my laptop, as long as I can dd one partition and save it to another I'm good. |
| 10:48.16 | petn-randall | Rovanion: Is it for backups? |
| 10:48.52 | shambat | so is the systemd/upstart thing settled? |
| 10:48.53 | Rovanion | petn-randall: Going to do an upgrade, so a one time backup I guess so that if I fuck up I can just re-image the partition. |
| 10:49.54 | g105b | abrotman: how should I upgrade to php5.5 ? |
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| 10:50.13 | petn-randall | Rovanion: It's quicker if you just make a copy of the files, since with dd you'll also be copying empty sectors. You can do such a thing without a remount with LVM, which can do snapshots. It won't help you now but it's something to consider on your next installation. :) |
| 10:50.19 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell Rovanion about lvm |
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| 10:50.45 | level7 | hi all... |
| 10:50.54 | petn-randall | g105b: Why do you want to upgrade to PHP 5.5? |
| 10:50.56 | Rovanion | petn-randall: I'd rather go wild and go btrfs :P |
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| 10:51.42 | g105b | petn-randall: what an odd question... because my code requires it. |
| 10:51.44 | level7 | I have a simple question: how do I tell toapt-get to fetch from the Internet and not from the CDROM? When I installed Debian it had no Internet connectivirt and I guess there is some setting saying "fetch from the CDROM"... how do I change it? |
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| 10:52.26 | Iridos | Lady_Aleena, well... how can you say migrating is a major pain if you don't even know what format it uses and what format what you want to migrate to uses? that seems to be the first thing to find out... |
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| 10:53.04 | Iridos | Lady_Aleena, if both use maildir format (which wouldn't surprise me), migration could be as easy as pointing something else to that directory... |
| 10:53.57 | petn-randall | g105b: Considering that it 5.5 is not that old, and hardly in any distro releases, it is a valid question. You can always backport it yourself, or do a local install. |
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| 10:55.23 | petn-randall | g105b: In both cases you'll have to take care of security updates yourself, though. |
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| 10:55.40 | abrotman | code requires? |
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| 10:56.08 | abrotman | would talk to developers about target releases :) |
| 10:56.59 | petn-randall | Well, if they've just started a project and the release target is in two years, it makes sense to base it on 5.5 ... |
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| 10:57.29 | abrotman | they'd also not be testing on wheezy, right? |
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| 10:59.42 | g105b | Thanks for the speculations, but I'd just like some help in upgrading php to version 5.5 within wheezy. If you need to know why, it's because we are using Ubuntu dev machines (with 5.5 installed), and the dev server on site that we're going to use for the demo of our prototype is wheezy and I think it would be easier to upgrade the package than the OS. I'm not familiar with debian outside of the usual `apt-get install` business |
| 10:59.43 | g105b | ... |
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| 10:59.58 | FashionGi | Hi!!! |
| 11:00.10 | FashionGi | hi |
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| 11:03.15 | g105b | Maybe I'll just install Windows to do this. |
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| 11:04.28 | g105b | trolls |
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| 11:05.44 | petn-randall | g105b: Good luck! |
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| 11:11.12 | petn-randall | Rovanion: btrfs is a really interesting project, but I won't entrust my data to it until has reached a certain point of stability. |
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| 11:15.22 | abrotman | hehe |
| 11:15.45 | abrotman | petn-randall: have you been following goerzen's posts? |
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| 11:17.21 | Iridos | Lady_Aleena, what program are you trying to migrate to, anyway? |
| 11:17.52 | petn-randall | abrotman: I haven't. Which one's do you mean? |
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| 11:20.12 | BotaniCar | [ab]uses IMAP to migrate anything-to-anything_else , mailwise |
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| 11:29.09 | abrotman | petn-randall: he's done a few about btrfs, some vs zfs .. ask me when i get to a real terminal, see if i can dig them up |
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| 11:36.01 | tuxcrafter | http://paste.debian.net/81152/ < im having warning: hostname localhost does not resolve to address ::1: No address associated with hostname |
| 11:36.08 | tuxcrafter | after a debian update last week |
| 11:36.26 | tuxcrafter | did multi on go to off in eglib or something? |
| 11:36.30 | tuxcrafter | and how to fix it |
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| 11:56.22 | Natio | Hi guys, is it true that SUDO got added to Debian Wheezy, as standard? |
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| 11:57.43 | jelly | Natio: it's not in the base installation of wheezy |
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| 11:59.00 | Natio | Hm weird. I'm writing an auto install script, could you tell me what im doing wrong on this line jelly? |
| 11:59.01 | Natio | su apt-get install -y sudo |
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| 12:00.05 | themill | Natio: that's not the right syntax for su |
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| 12:00.20 | Natio | >.< |
| 12:00.53 | adc | I think you need to do `su -c apt-get install -y sudo` |
| 12:01.09 | jelly | sprinkle with quotes liberally |
| 12:01.11 | thomaschaaf | Hello I have my application running as a job (init.d) and it depends on different things such as redis and postgresql. Is there a way to depend on those applications so that my application stops prior to redis if that is stopped because of an update for example? |
| 12:01.44 | adc | jelly: ah yes, `su -c 'apt-get install -y sudo'` |
| 12:01.49 | jelly | Natio: how are you solving the fact su asks for root password? |
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| 12:02.04 | Natio | I allow the user to input both username and password |
| 12:02.19 | Natio | Store them in variables |
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| 12:02.24 | jelly | and use expect? |
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| 12:02.41 | Natio | No i dont use expect, idk that command |
| 12:03.13 | jelly | su's password prompt will flush the buffers, how are you passing the password to su? |
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| 12:03.33 | Natio | Ah geez ur right, im not lol |
| 12:03.41 | Natio | How would u do? |
| 12:03.49 | Natio | $password | su ? |
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| 12:04.04 | jelly | as I said, that won't work |
| 12:04.25 | themill | Natio: what's this autoinstall script for? Who will run it? |
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| 12:04.41 | Natio | Users who wants to set up basic features on a dedicated server |
| 12:04.56 | themill | Perhaps they should run the script as root |
| 12:04.58 | jelly | (I mean, the correct-ish echo "$password" | su won't work either) |
| 12:04.58 | bhuddah | you could use suid. |
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| 12:05.37 | Natio | So i start the script with su root And allow them to log in before continueing? |
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| 12:06.00 | bhuddah | having root passwords in the user context is awful anyway. |
| 12:06.25 | themill | Natio: the instructions for using the script can just be "run this as root". |
| 12:06.46 | Natio | Hmm yeah, good call |
| 12:06.47 | Natio | Thanks |
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| 12:08.47 | Natio | `su -c apt-get install -y sudo` <-- What does the su "-c" switch do? |
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| 12:09.02 | bhuddah | Natio: look in the manpage. |
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| 12:10.13 | Natio | Right |
| 12:10.42 | Natio | I might be over-complicating some stuff, but this is my first bash script ever, so please bear with me. |
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| 12:10.54 | Natio | Is the backticks nesscesary? |
| 12:11.07 | bhuddah | no prob. so the do know the root password? |
| 12:11.23 | bhuddah | you could use "$(" and ")" instead of backticks. |
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| 12:12.00 | jelly | Natio: in this context, the backticks were just used here on irc to show where command line starts and ends |
| 12:12.02 | Natio | Ah ok, ty :) |
| 12:12.03 | themill | You don't want backticks or $() there at all |
| 12:12.09 | jelly | bhuddah: ^^ |
| 12:12.18 | Natio | Aye, ty :> |
| 12:13.01 | bhuddah | usually backticks are for executing a command and putting the stdout into a variable, Natio |
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| 12:13.17 | Natio | Ive seen "stdout" a few times now |
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| 12:13.28 | Natio | Is that just another way of saying output? |
| 12:13.40 | bhuddah | stdout is what you are looking at the whole time. |
| 12:14.01 | bhuddah | it's one of the various outputs you have at hands. |
| 12:14.41 | Natio | aaah sneaky :> Ty :) |
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| 12:15.51 | themill | Natio: btw you might like to take on something a little better bounded for your first bash script |
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| 12:16.19 | Natio | What u mean "bounded" m8? Idk that word |
| 12:17.01 | themill | simple |
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| 12:17.14 | bhuddah | non-root |
| 12:17.30 | Natio | :< |
| 12:17.43 | Natio | I wrote about 250 lines that im gonna debug |
| 12:17.48 | Iridos | Natio, a lot of your questions might be answered in http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide or maybe also in http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ |
| 12:18.31 | Iridos | like the one about input and output (stdout and stderr ) |
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| 12:19.25 | Natio | Ty Iridos, I'm bookmarking that right away |
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| 12:22.37 | shibly | Hi |
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| 12:23.40 | user__ | hi ! |
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| 12:24.56 | user__ | I installed windows instead of my crappy debain, that froze all the time, and on windows everything work grage :D |
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| 12:25.00 | user__ | grate |
| 12:25.20 | themill | user__: wrong channel then |
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| 12:25.49 | Natio | Hmm.. I think i fucked up lol |
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| 12:26.07 | Natio | Fuck. |
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| 12:26.12 | knodun | hello |
| 12:26.58 | user__ | themill: I had a typo |
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| 12:27.02 | user__ | what I meant to say |
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| 12:27.04 | knodun | it's been almost 15 years since I've used IRC, I'm actually surprised and somewhat happy it's still alive and kicking |
| 12:27.30 | bhuddah | then welcome back, knodun |
| 12:27.48 | knodun | cheers big ears |
| 12:27.58 | Natio | Yea wb Knodun :P |
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| 12:28.11 | user__ | I installed windows instead of my crappy debain, that froze all the time, and everything that hanged the computer on debian work great on windows :D |
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| 12:29.10 | knodun | pretty unknown fact, I remember when ./ was just created and CmdrTaco used to be in here asking people for advice and opinions on his new site |
| 12:29.24 | rgr | Mornin. Can someone help we figure out how best to install the slim login manager in testing. It's in squeeze but not in jessie. I cant think why not or maybe I'm doing something wrong here. |
| 12:29.29 | themill | user__: if you have useful bug reports please make them via bugs.debian.org |
| 12:29.41 | knodun | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.53 | bhuddah | knodun: there's #debian-social for non-support chatter btw ;) |
| 12:30.04 | bhuddah | or offtopic? *damn* |
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| 12:30.23 | knodun | oh roger, thanks :O |
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| 12:31.44 | Natio | Ok i fucked up. I wanted to remove sudo, so i could try and install it again. It removed gdebi, gksu and sudo. Now when trying to install sudo(apt-get install sudo) it prompts me for the Debian GNU/Linux 7.3.0_Wheezy_ - Official i386 CD binary |
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| 12:31.54 | Natio | Geeeez what have i done >.< |
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| 12:32.35 | themill | rgr: slim has RC bugs and was removed from testing |
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| 12:32.43 | rgr | ah ok. cheers. |
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| 12:33.44 | rgr | where could I have found that out for myself? the slim page for jessie it just a "not found". |
| 12:34.11 | knodun | well, reminiscing over... nice chat, bye all |
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| 12:35.22 | themill | rgr: packages.qa.debian.org |
| 12:35.34 | themill | rgr: or /msg dpkg why is foo not in testing |
| 12:36.00 | rgr | ta |
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| 12:44.38 | rgr | what script or conf file might be launching at-spi-bus-launcher? Im paring down my system and have grepped through all the init rc scripts but with no joy. I'm not running gnome-session but cant find where this is being launched. |
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| 12:45.47 | rgr | oh hang on. might be xfconf. |
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| 13:01.04 | thoonai | hello |
| 13:02.21 | thoonai | I want to set up a debian installation, which boots from nfs, I have about 128MB of storage on my cf card, so it should be enough for the bootloader and the kernel |
| 13:03.12 | thoonai | How do I set up the local part with bootloader, kernel and initramfs? |
| 13:03.25 | thoonai | is there a good tutorial? |
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| 13:06.25 | ChrisH | thoonai: why not do a full network boot/PXE ? The search term would be NFS root not NFS boot |
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| 13:09.31 | thoonai | ChrisH: PXE is too easy to manipulate. I can't be sure, that anybody is just plugging in the switch and start to mess around with the network so I want fix addresses and authentification between client and server (if this is possible with nfs) and in the second iteration I want to modify initramfs, that it boots over vpn |
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| 13:10.44 | ChrisH | thoonai: wow... sounds resonable :) |
| 13:11.10 | thoonai | ChrisH: sorry, gtg, I'm back in 20minutes :) |
| 13:11.21 | thoonai | ChrisH: I hope this isnt irony ;) |
| 13:11.24 | thoonai | cu |
| 13:11.42 | ChrisH | thoonai: no ironie in |
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| 13:16.52 | guuest | Hey! Can you help please? Someone broke permissions in the system and su gives root without password now! |
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| 13:17.53 | ChrisH | guuest: "Someone broke permissions" does that mean, someone from outside logged onto your system? Given that the only resonable answer is: reinstall! |
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| 13:18.39 | guuest | No, someone is me(((( |
| 13:18.44 | ChrisH | If "Someone broke permissions" means, a known admin executed a faulty command, passwd as root to set a new root pw should fix it. |
| 13:19.04 | guuest | passwd as root? ok |
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| 13:19.42 | petn-randall | guuest: If that doesn't fix it, the easiest would be to recap what you did, and then revert those changes. |
| 13:20.24 | guuest | I changed root password, but it didn't help. Sudo asks password normally |
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| 13:20.45 | guuest | but from other user su asks password too |
| 13:21.21 | guuest | from my user su gives root without ask |
| 13:21.45 | petn-randall | guuest: What did you do to make that happen? |
| 13:22.12 | guuest | At first su didn't work |
| 13:22.32 | guuest | Then i tried to chown and chmod /etc and /usr |
| 13:23.00 | cyzz | check your sudoers files |
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| 13:23.02 | guuest | chown -R root /etc |
| 13:23.18 | guuest | chmod -R 755 /etc |
| 13:23.57 | guuest | then i set uid byte to /usr/bin/su and /usr/bin/sudo. Thats all |
| 13:24.24 | guuest | sudo works normally, but su gives root |
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| 13:25.19 | petn-randall | guuest: Can you paste the output of 'ls -l /bin/su /usr/bin/sudo' to http://paste.debian.net? |
| 13:25.26 | guuest | ok |
| 13:25.34 | bezaban | guuest: chmod -R 755 /etc is likely a bad idea as there are probably files in there that should not be world readable |
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| 13:26.12 | petn-randall | guuest: I agree with bezaban, that wasn't a good idea. /etc/shadow shouldn't be world-readable, and that's not the only file. |
| 13:26.26 | cyzz | after a chmod 755 /etc you can reinstall |
| 13:26.27 | bezaban | ssh host keys and other stuff |
| 13:26.33 | guuest | -rwsr-sr-x permissions, root:root is owner |
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| 13:27.00 | cyzz | you have to... |
| 13:27.22 | petn-randall | guuest: Did you make backups of /etc? |
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| 13:27.40 | guuest | no, i installed the system today |
| 13:28.08 | cyzz | su without pass is defined in /etc/sudoers |
| 13:28.18 | petn-randall | guuest: Easiest way would be to reinstall, and be more careful next time. |
| 13:28.37 | guuest | cyzz really? |
| 13:28.40 | petn-randall | guuest: Remember, with root comes power and responsibility! :) |
| 13:28.43 | cyzz | sure |
| 13:28.50 | themill | cyzz: where precisely? |
| 13:29.07 | ChrisH | guuest: Given the system is 1 day old; reinstall is the fastest and safest way to get out of that. |
| 13:29.26 | cyzz | something like ALL(none) NOPASSWD |
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| 13:29.47 | petn-randall | cyzz: That is *sudo*, not *su*. |
| 13:29.58 | ChrisH | cyzz: thats sudo not su |
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| 13:30.58 | guuest | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909115/plain/ my sudoers |
| 13:31.01 | cyzz | but there is no way to setup su without passwd except sudoers |
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| 13:31.32 | petn-randall | cyzz: There is, he set the sgid bit, as you can see in one of his earlier messages. |
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| 13:31.41 | cyzz | Oo |
| 13:31.43 | cyzz | uhhh |
| 13:31.45 | cyzz | ok |
| 13:31.56 | guuest | suid, no sgid |
| 13:31.58 | cyzz | guuest: pls reinstall the hole system |
| 13:32.15 | guuest | oh, no |
| 13:32.21 | cyzz | dont touch rights you dont understand |
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| 13:33.04 | ChrisH | http://paste.ubuntu.com/ <-- does ask to login... can we have that URL added to the not-wanted pastebins? |
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| 13:37.39 | rgr | no it doesnt |
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| 13:39.40 | rgr | any suggestions for alternatives to xfce-applauncher? SOmething lightweight and non gnome that doesnt drag in a plethora of settings daemons. |
| 13:40.00 | rgr | (xfce-applauncher is pretty good but I'm just interested in evaluating others) |
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| 13:57.51 | rgr | oh thats good. finally down to only 940Megs in use after a log in and the desktop up and running with mysql and apache2. nice bit of paring down there. a lot learnt too. |
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| 13:58.27 | Guest687 | hi |
| 13:58.37 | Guest687 | i've a problem with KVM |
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| 14:01.09 | atari314 | Guys, is it possible to manually setup an UTF8 system, I mean, without the locales package? |
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| 14:02.09 | petn-randall | atari314: Probably, but it would a lot of work. |
| 14:02.29 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell Guest687 -about ask |
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| 14:02.50 | Guest687 | thank you petn-randall |
| 14:03.13 | atari314 | petn-randall: ty, I'll try to figure it out :) |
| 14:03.28 | Guest687 | I setup a Virtio-9p passthrough |
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| 14:03.59 | Guest687 | anyway my VM won't start giving me this error: Virtio-9p Failed to initialize fs-driver with id:fsdev-fs0 and export path:/home/DATA/kvm/passthrough/HTTP |
| 14:04.41 | petn-randall | atari314: Out of curiosity, why do you want to do that? |
| 14:04.43 | Guest687 | I temporary changed permissions of that folder to 777 but no success |
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| 14:05.45 | petn-randall | Guest687: Never put chmod 777 on anything. It will only break security, and probably a lot of other things. So the host is Debian? Or the guest? I'm missing a lot of context here. |
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| 14:06.26 | thoonai | ChrisH: hi |
| 14:06.30 | thoonai | I'm back |
| 14:06.30 | Guest687 | yes, i know, it was just a test to be sure. both host and guest are debian wheezy |
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| 14:06.42 | joj | atari314: locales are intrinsically intertwined with GNU libc. There are definition files to compile, evironments to set up etc pp. It'll be difficult and cost time, and you also have to make sure that locale-related configurations won't be altered when updating libc et al. Just don't break your libc, or you've to really rescue the system |
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| 14:07.14 | atari314 | petn-randall: doing an experiment removing almost everything from debian till reaching bare-metal. I believe I was able to get pretty low, 288mb with stock kernel... 180mb with custom kernel... |
| 14:07.26 | Guest687 | the vm works fine but adding any virtio-p9 configuration it won't start anymore |
| 14:07.56 | atari314 | joj: got it, please, correct me if I'm wrong, but C (no localization) is itself a "empty" locale, couldn't I just replace it content with UTF8's? |
| 14:08.00 | petn-randall | atari314: I don't see any point in stripping locales and doing it by hand, unless you want to install *to* floppy disks or something ... :) |
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| 14:08.44 | atari314 | petn-randall: it's not for production or anything, I just want to see how low can I go :) |
| 14:09.27 | thoonai | atari314: do you want to documentate it? |
| 14:09.36 | thoonai | atari314: would be really great |
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| 14:10.03 | atari314 | thoonai: I'm doing it on paper, I'll prolly post on the forum the results :) |
| 14:10.13 | thoonai | ok |
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| 14:10.29 | rgr | atari314:you mean ram in use or disk usage? |
| 14:11.24 | atari314 | rgr: disk usage |
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| 14:12.36 | atari314 | rgr, thoonai, petn-randall, I'm also recompiling some packages to trim the fat off (gimp, inkscape, filezilla, gtk2, mplayer), took me quite sometime to figure it all out, but I was able to reduce like, _a lot_, 'em :) |
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| 14:14.13 | petn-randall | atari314: Given that a 1 GB of disk storage costs less than 4 cents nowadays, it's of little use. But you'll surely get to know a lot about how Debian is built up! ;) |
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| 14:15.04 | atari314 | petn-randall: that's true, but it's not really about that, I don't like to carry what I don't need, so just experimenting, for fun :) |
| 14:15.42 | petn-randall | atari314: Check out the package 'localepurge' then, but use with care ;) |
| 14:16.20 | rgr | great way to learn the system. kudos. I recently stripped out gnome etc and its made a huge impace to this old machine. |
| 14:16.54 | atari314 | petn-randall: I was using it, but too much stuff was still being left, so I removed locales completely (as long manuals/docs)... |
| 14:16.57 | atari314 | rgr, yeah, totally xD |
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| 14:18.10 | rgr | suddenly init and run levels etc dont seem so daunting. "Meh, just another script".... |
| 14:19.36 | atari314 | it's a shame debian depends so much on perl, I'd love to rip it off >< |
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| 14:20.18 | Guest687 | google won't help, i just found a thread about ubuntu and apparmor but i think that is not my case |
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| 14:23.05 | napcae | if google won't help you are asking the wrong questions |
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| 14:23.56 | petn-randall | Guest687: Can you paste the whole error? How far does the system boot? |
| 14:24.06 | Guest687 | it doesn't boot at all |
| 14:24.56 | joj | atari314: was AFK. AFAIK you cannot have a custom "C" because it is defined in ISO C. I found a reference https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Standard-Locales.html#Standard-Locales |
| 14:24.57 | Guest687 | virt-manger show me this error: "Error starting domain: Unable to read from monitor: Connection reset by peer" |
| 14:25.26 | Guest687 | and vm's log say: "Virtio-9p Failed to initialize fs-driver with id:fsdev-fs0 and export path:/home/DATA/kvm/passthrough/HTTP" |
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| 14:25.49 | Guest687 | removing virtio-9p stuff it boots fine |
| 14:26.05 | petn-randall | Guest687: I don't know enough about it. Maybe you can ask on #kvm. |
| 14:26.07 | rgr | Guest687: are you the same person who borked all his permissions earlier? |
| 14:26.24 | Guest687 | not all permissions, just the shared folder! |
| 14:26.31 | atari314 | joj: tyvm sir, that doc will help me a lot |
| 14:26.31 | rgr | you said /etc |
| 14:26.32 | Guest687 | anyway it's me |
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| 14:26.46 | rgr | I thought I recognised the voice ;) |
| 14:27.09 | Guest687 | no, not /etc |
| 14:27.51 | petn-randall | rgr: Those are two different people with different problems. |
| 14:28.23 | Guest687 | ok, I'm going to ask in #kvm channel |
| 14:28.27 | Guest687 | thank you! |
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| 14:38.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps is there something going on with freenode?? |
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| 14:38.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | i keep getting disconnected or i horrendous laggy |
| 14:39.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | i had no problems on my network besides irc since i setup. whats the help channel for freenode pees?. |
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| 14:40.29 | petn-randall | Eryn_1983_FL: Surprisingly, #freenode :) |
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| 14:51.08 | Guest687 | I've an additional information: copying the command line from log and launching that command with root user the vm starts |
| 14:51.56 | Guest687 | using virt-manager (as root) and starting that vm I get the usual error |
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| 15:10.44 | gele | i'm using btrfs for the / partition on my laptop (/boot is ext3), and i think i have broken it somehow. i was going to test 'btrfs filesystem defrag /', but it took so long that i gave up and killed it, and ever since then the whole system has become incredibly slow. i tried to reboot, and the boot went fine up until it mounted /, at which point everything slowed down to a crawl and it started complaining about 'no space left on device'. the |
| 15:10.44 | gele | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.09 | gele | i have backups so i could just do a new install and restore my data, but if there's a quicker way to fix it i'd prefer that. |
| 15:11.12 | gele | any ideas? |
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| 15:11.59 | petn-randall | gele: Which release are you running? |
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| 15:12.51 | gele | petn-randall: right, sorry - wheezy on i386 with recent updates and kernel 3.12 from wheezy-backports. |
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| 15:15.19 | gele | i'm booting it again now, it's been 10 minutes since it mounted / and it still hasn't started the display manager... the [ ok ] messages are ticking by at a rate of roughly one per minute. |
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| 15:15.46 | petn-randall | gele: I'd boot a live system and try to fix it from there. Looks like the btrfs is seriously hosed. |
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| 15:16.35 | gele | petn-randall: are there any tools in the installed initrd that could fix it? |
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| 15:17.25 | duffduff | does anyone know of an alternative way to obtain git repo for ltrace? I'm getting an error: http://pastebin.com/LQydYcEu |
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| 15:19.44 | Imbue | petn-randall: figured out the urandom 'issue' |
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| 15:20.08 | Imbue | petn-randall: it appears that it only utilizes 1 core |
| 15:20.31 | Imbue | for the prng or whatever it is doing |
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| 15:20.40 | petn-randall | gele: wheezy is fairly old as far as btrfs goes, I'm not sure if all the tools are packaged for it. |
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| 15:21.03 | petn-randall | Imbue: Oh, you mean on install when you create a LUKS device? |
| 15:21.05 | Imbue | it seems to me that secure erase could be performed much faster if this were done multicore |
| 15:21.38 | Imbue | petn-randall: well, i'm just testing with dd, and I get roughly the same performance |
| 15:22.00 | Imbue | dd to a USB drive that is fairly slow gets 14mb/s, dd to an ssd that is an order of magnitude faster gets ~20mb/s |
| 15:22.21 | petn-randall | Imbue: Python has a multicore pseudorandom library, you can use that if you care about performance. |
| 15:22.28 | Imbue | in the usb drive scenario htop reports dd at 100% on one core |
| 15:22.41 | gele | Imbue: it's much faster to do 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/crypto-foo' on the encrypted device than writing random data to the raw device. |
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| 15:23.03 | petn-randall | Imbue: Intels core i have hardware acceleration for stuff like that, likely that it's faster on an i7. |
| 15:23.08 | gele | and should be as secure as the encryption itself (though you will be giving any attacker a lot of known plaintext). |
| 15:23.56 | rgr | recommendations for an alternative to nm-applet? I really dont want all the chuff that comes with network-manager-gnome for nm-applet. (I'm using tryer as a systray). |
| 15:23.57 | petn-randall | gele: Well, and what filesystem you're using, and a great deal of how large many files on your filesystem are. Not that it's relevant in most cases. |
| 15:24.01 | Imbue | in this case I'm probably limited by usb write speed anyway |
| 15:24.17 | petn-randall | rgr: You can use nmcli if you don't like the systray. |
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| 15:24.32 | Imbue | i just thought it may be interesting to note that the debian installer appears to use a suboptimal secure erase method |
| 15:25.11 | gele | petn-randall: why does the filesystem matter if you're writing to the encrypted device directly? |
| 15:25.12 | Imbue | especially in the case of a 1TB hdd or whatever, it would take ludicrous amounts of time for no real reason |
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| 15:25.32 | petn-randall | Imbue: It's a valid point. Check the BTS if there is a bugreport, otherwise file on with an explanation and maybe some ideas on how to improve the situation. |
| 15:25.49 | rgr | Im using trayer as the systray. Im looking for an applet like program for it to display network signal etc. nm-applet is gnome and drags in too much. (xmonad window system) |
| 15:26.19 | petn-randall | rgr: Did you read my last message directed to you? |
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| 15:28.08 | rgr | yes. |
| 15:28.19 | petn-randall | gele: There are known plaintext attacks on LUKS devices. Btw, leaving large parts of the partition under the LUKS as zeros isn't a known plaintext. |
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| 15:28.53 | vppy | hi all, i recently migrated a vm from xen to kvm. I boot up the vm, it starts but hangs at welcome to grub. I can get to grub command line. But it does not load debian. What can i look at to fix? |
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| 15:29.06 | gele | petn-randall: /dev/mapper/crypto-foo is the actual luksOpened device in this case. |
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| 15:30.11 | petn-randall | gele: Oh, you mean overwriting the opened crypto partition with zeroes. That's probably without consequences, though I'm not sure about it. |
| 15:30.23 | gkze | Hi all, I have a question. How exactly is snapshot.debian.org implemented? specifically the ability to address a snapshot of either all or each of the repositories via multiple timestamp formats? |
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| 15:30.33 | gkze | I am trying to implement something of my own like that locally |
| 15:30.57 | gele | either way, it's faster than copying from /dev/urandom to the raw device on all machines i've tried it on, by a factor of 5 - 20. |
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| 15:31.33 | petn-randall | gele: Agreed. Who'll write the bug report? I'm at work right now ... >_> |
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| 15:32.21 | Imbue | i can't be sure that urandom is actually used to secure erase during the installer |
| 15:32.32 | Imbue | it is an assumption based on the amount of time it takes |
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| 15:33.27 | petn-randall | /dev/random is a *lot* slower, and I'm guessing they didn't cook up their own implementation. But it's all just speculation right now. |
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| 15:40.40 | Kitt3n | Is there an easy way to install the current 7.4 kernal source code? |
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| 15:42.18 | gele | Kitt3n: the full source, or just the headers? |
| 15:42.30 | gele | (you typically only need the headers to build extra modules) |
| 15:42.41 | petn-randall | Kitt3n: 'apt-get install linux-source' |
| 15:42.49 | Kitt3n | Trying to build Startech Linux driver, so probably just the headers |
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| 15:43.19 | Kitt3n | petn-randall, thanks |
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| 15:44.32 | gele | the headers are in the linux-headers-686 or linux-headers-amd64 package or some other package depending on your architecture. |
| 15:44.44 | Kitt3n | hm, okay. |
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| 15:47.12 | Kitt3n | gele, well, when I try to install the headers, it asks for my installation usb to be put in /media/cdrom what |
| 15:47.16 | Imbue | how do the cd/dvd images work? can I use say, DVD1 only and then network for anything additional? |
| 15:47.24 | Imbue | basically, are they like netinst but with more packages included |
| 15:47.54 | Kitt3n | Imbue, I would just download one of the desktop environment ISOs |
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| 15:49.19 | gele | if you don't want to use packages from the installation media you need to remove it from your sources list. |
| 15:49.33 | Kitt3n | gele, I see, I see. |
| 15:49.48 | gele | Imbue: yes, you can always use the network to get more packages. |
| 15:50.04 | gele | Imbue: and the first dvd image is intended to work on its own. |
| 15:50.42 | Imbue | okay. so, what is included in the 3 dvd set? is it just a selected number of frequently used packages? |
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| 15:51.24 | petn-randall | Imbue: All images of one set contain *all* packages of the debian repo. |
| 15:51.32 | Imbue | oh wow. |
| 15:51.47 | petn-randall | Imbue: They're useful if you have to install somewhere where you don't have any internet access at all. |
| 15:52.25 | petn-randall | installed Debian on a machine in a nuclear power plant once. |
| 15:52.33 | Kitt3n | Seriously? |
| 15:52.38 | petn-randall | They didn't have internet there for security reasons, I think :) |
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| 15:52.45 | gele | eeeeexcellent. |
| 15:52.51 | Imbue | ^ lol |
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| 15:53.01 | petn-randall | Yes, not kidding. One of my few out-of-office jobs in my current company :D |
| 15:53.27 | abrotman | petn-randall: Similar thing, prison, many years ago |
| 15:53.37 | Imbue | okay. but, if I just want to minimize the amount I have to download on install, DVD1 is far more than enough, correct? |
| 15:53.44 | daemonkeeper | Doesn't help, as Stuxnet shows. |
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| 15:54.00 | Imbue | i mean, I can get up and running from dvd1, fiddle, then get online and update as required |
| 15:54.09 | gele | Imbue: if you want to really minimise the downloads, use the netinst image. |
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| 15:54.19 | iceroot | hi |
| 15:54.22 | Imbue | gele: I mean, minimize the downloads _during install_ |
| 15:54.41 | gele | oh. yeah. |
| 15:54.53 | Imbue | downloading a massive file pre-installation is fine, I can find a friend with ridiculous net access or whatever :p |
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| 15:54.58 | Imbue | thanks |
| 15:55.07 | gele | the first dvd image will just look for upgrades, and even that is not necessary to get a working system. |
| 15:55.11 | iceroot | there was a DSA mail 20 minutes ago telling me that a new iceweasel update is there (and that it will update to iceweasel 24) http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/iceweasel this is showing still iceweasel 17. am i using the wrong package/repo or does it just take some time until the update is in the repos? |
| 15:55.43 | hitest | Imbue, I always just download the netinstall iso and install a minimal system. then install only what I want |
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| 15:57.07 | hitest | you don't need to download DVD1 |
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| 15:58.21 | iceroot | or how can i find out what the source package is used for this? http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_24.2.0esr-1_amd64.deb |
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| 15:58.24 | petn-randall | iceroot: To the end of wheezy's support time, it will only have 17 in there. There will be point releases that just fix the security problem, no feature updates. |
| 15:59.01 | iceroot | petn-randall: the mail says this This update updates Iceweasel to the ESR24 series of Firefox. |
| 15:59.04 | iceroot | For the stable distribution (wheezy), these problems have been fixed in |
| 15:59.06 | iceroot | version 24.3.0esr-1~deb7u1. |
| 15:59.07 | petn-randall | iceroot: if you want the source, you can simply do 'apt-get source iceweasel' on your machine, if the right deb-src line is in /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 15:59.23 | iceroot | petn-randall: for my understanding the sourcepackage iceweasel will now point to 24 in stable |
| 15:59.30 | iceroot | sourcepackage = metapackage |
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| 16:00.35 | petn-randall | iceroot: What's the number of the DSA? |
| 16:00.38 | iceroot | petn-randall: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909826/ |
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| 16:00.55 | iceroot | [SECURITY] [DSA 2858-1] iceweasel security update |
| 16:01.17 | iceroot | 20 minutes ago |
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| 16:03.04 | iceroot | petn-randall: fixed, the repo was to slow, now iceweasel 24 is in the main repo as "iceweasel" so everything fine |
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| 16:03.28 | iceroot | Holen: 4 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main iceweasel amd64 24.3.0esr-1~deb7u1 [2.864 kB] |
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| 16:13.52 | dj-death | looks like ld can't find the 32bits version of libgcc/libstdc++ |
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| 16:21.02 | dj-death | ah |
| 16:21.14 | dj-death | possibliy missed the g++-multilib package |
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| 16:26.20 | tuxcrafter | did the debian 7.3 to 7.4 update change dns resolve from multi on to off and how can if fix this |
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| 16:26.54 | petn-randall | tuxcrafter: You have to elaborate your problem, I don't understand. |
| 16:26.55 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 16:26.56 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 16:32.18 | tuxcrafter | petn-randall: postfix cant resolve my ::1 to localhost i got two lines in my hosts file the multi on in hosts.conf should allow for multiline lookup, this does not seem to work anymore after 7.3 to 7.4 maybe the libc changed? |
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| 16:33.09 | tuxcrafter | petn-randall: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2014-02/0136.html |
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| 16:34.32 | knyon | I'm learning how to build non-native debian packages. Would anyone suggest a high-quality package I could use as an example to learn from? |
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| 16:35.41 | knyon | I've pulled the source of things I use (nginx, vim, tmux, etc) and they seem fine, but maybe there's something simpler to learn from? |
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| 16:36.18 | abrotman | non-native? |
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| 16:37.17 | knyon | I might be mistaken on terminology; non-native = an existing codebase not structured for debian packaging |
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| 16:37.57 | jelly | as opposed to whois_5.1.1_i386.deb |
| 16:38.23 | jelly | where debian=upstream |
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| 16:41.18 | neagix | hello! |
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| 16:41.27 | neagix | I have deleted libc.so of this running box |
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| 16:42.00 | neagix | I tried to transfer it via an echo -e -n, but at 20 bytes/s it would have taken about 20 centuries |
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| 16:42.30 | neagix | any tip? aside from reinstalling. because I am afraid as soon as I reboot it, it will be gone |
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| 16:42.56 | gele | neagix: you just need to restore that one file? |
| 16:43.10 | neagix | gele: yes |
| 16:43.20 | neagix | or discover that I have a copy somewhere |
| 16:43.23 | gele | why would you use echo? |
| 16:43.27 | neagix | (I don't think so) |
| 16:43.30 | petn-randall | knyon: Yeah, that's the definition of non-native package. Head over to #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net, it's a channel dedicated to packaging in Debian. They can give you lots of hints and tips. |
| 16:43.43 | neagix | gele: to echo it to a new libc.so |
| 16:43.55 | knyon | petn-randall: Will do. Thanks for the redirection! |
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| 16:45.26 | neagix | nothing works without libc, except basic shell features |
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| 16:45.44 | neagix | not even clear! |
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| 16:46.35 | Kitt3n | Why does it have to be so hard to compile kernel modules? When I try to compile the ax88179 usb module, I get this :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910048/ |
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| 16:49.32 | jelly | Kitt3n: are build-essential and linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 packages installed? |
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| 16:50.15 | Kitt3n | jelly, yes |
| 16:51.17 | gele | ah, i found a tails usb stick that i could boot from, installed btrfsck, ran it, and now the btrfs seems to mount and work fine. |
| 16:51.33 | gele | let's just see if it works when booting from disk as well... |
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| 16:55.38 | neagix | is the loaded libc.so accessible via /proc ? |
| 16:56.01 | gele | ...and no. still very, very slow. i wonder if that means that i've found a bug in the 3.12 kernel that isn't present in whatever kernel tails is running. |
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| 16:57.47 | gele | booting from 3.10 seems to work, so i guess so... |
| 16:58.20 | rgr | Kitt3n: there was a configure stage? |
| 16:59.19 | Kitt3n | rgr, nope, the readme just says "make" |
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| 17:01.55 | jelly | Kitt3n: what does the Makefile look like? |
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| 17:03.11 | jelly | Kitt3n: also, ls -ld /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/build |
| 17:03.14 | Kitt3n | jelly, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910125/ |
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| 17:03.40 | Okee | i keep loosing my sound card. Does anyone have an idea on how to kickstart it? |
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| 17:04.43 | Kitt3n | jelly, ls -ld returned drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 10 17:40 /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/build |
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| 17:05.08 | jelly | Kitt3n: it's an actual directory? That's not good, it's supposed to be a symlink |
| 17:05.24 | Kitt3n | jelly, to where? |
| 17:05.52 | jelly | Kitt3n: something like build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 17:07.56 | atari314 | rgr, thoonai, petn-randall, joj, managed to setup the locale manually without the locales package *_*, required a bit of "cheating", but it's working perfectly :D |
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| 17:09.27 | Kitt3n | jelly, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910166 This happens now |
| 17:09.51 | jelly | Kitt3n: so, same thing |
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| 17:10.51 | Kitt3n | Yah |
| 17:11.07 | jelly | I assume you've fixed the symlink? |
| 17:11.24 | vppy | I have two partitions. How do I tell which is swap and which is my / partition? |
| 17:11.39 | vppy | I have sda and sda1 |
| 17:11.46 | jelly | Kitt3n: /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/source is also supposed to be a symlink with the same destination |
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| 17:11.56 | ksuhku | vppy, mount |
| 17:12.04 | jelly | Kitt3n: sorry, no, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Sep 27 2012 source -> /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-common |
| 17:12.06 | keel | vppy: sda is your disk, sda1 is a partition on your disk |
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| 17:13.47 | Kitt3n | jelly, still throws the error |
| 17:13.56 | vppy | ksuhku: Problem is. Im using a rescue cd as my debian install wont boot. I am trying to mount sda but it comes with an error: block count exceeds size of device |
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| 17:14.47 | ksuhku | vppy, what happened to your install? |
| 17:14.48 | jelly | Kitt3n: dunno then. show your current ls -l /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/* /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64/* |
| 17:15.04 | jelly | Kitt3n: sorry, make that ls -ld /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/* /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64/* |
| 17:15.09 | vppy | keel: Ok, kewl. I want to edit the grub config on my system, so i got a system rescue cd and trying to mount so I can exit it. it wont let me mount :( |
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| 17:16.06 | vppy | ksuhku: I moved my vm from xen to kvm. It boots fine but when it gets to the kernel bit, I select one and it hangs at welcome to grub. I have waiting 15 mins. but it does not progress further |
| 17:17.54 | Kitt3n | jelly, paste.ubuntu.com/6910189 |
| 17:18.02 | ksuhku | vppy, can you do the grub editing from inside grub? |
| 17:18.25 | vppy | hmm. I did not know I could do that |
| 17:18.30 | vppy | I will try |
| 17:18.36 | jelly | Kitt3n: you made a typo |
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| 17:19.04 | jelly | Kitt3n: and the build link is incorrect |
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| 17:19.30 | jelly | Kitt3n: ln -fs /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/build |
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| 17:21.02 | vppy | Just so im not confusing myself. Rescue cd will run completely from ram right? The sda device I am seeing is the one which is on the machine? |
| 17:21.17 | Kitt3n | vppy, yup |
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| 17:21.47 | Kitt3n | jelly, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910201 |
| 17:22.44 | jelly | Kitt3n: you need to work on your tyipng skills! |
| 17:22.47 | jelly | :-) |
| 17:22.53 | koell | I just downloaded a python application from github. I started it from downloads but where to store this application now? |
| 17:23.06 | Kitt3n | jelly, what did I do wrong? |
| 17:23.12 | jelly | Kitt3n: ls instead of ln |
| 17:23.13 | koell | /usr/bin ? |
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| 17:23.19 | Kitt3n | koell, /opt? |
| 17:23.39 | ksuhku | /dev/null? |
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| 17:23.49 | keel | vppy: did you create a new image for kvm (and copied the contents from the old xen image into the new kvm image) ? |
| 17:24.03 | jelly | koell: a single executable? /usr/local/bin |
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| 17:24.59 | Kitt3n | jelly, Now you confused me |
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| 17:25.53 | jelly | Kitt3n: run that ln command to fix the symlink |
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| 17:26.07 | Kitt3n | jelly, I understood now. Done! |
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| 17:26.44 | Kitt3n | jelly, it still throws the error |
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| 17:27.18 | jelly | Kitt3n: show "ls -ld /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/* /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64/*" again, please |
| 17:27.32 | koell | jelly: it is a folder with some files in |
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| 17:27.58 | koell | Kitt3n: is /opt in the default path? |
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| 17:28.14 | jelly | koell: hmph, that's ugly |
| 17:28.18 | Kitt3n | koell, well, I thought so? |
| 17:28.40 | jelly | I don't know about custom python source mgt best practice |
| 17:28.54 | lex|work | oh |
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| 17:31.11 | Kitt3n | jelly, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910252/ |
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| 17:31.50 | jelly | Kitt3n: you have not fixed the build symlink yet |
| 17:32.14 | jelly | Kitt3n: run "ln -fs /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/build" |
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| 17:33.29 | Kitt3n | jelly, done |
| 17:33.58 | jelly | ... and try building again |
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| 17:35.00 | Kitt3n | jelly, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910265 |
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| 17:35.30 | jelly | Kitt3n: show the ls -ld again please |
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| 17:36.30 | Kitt3n | jelly, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910267 |
| 17:36.48 | jelly | Kitt3n: the symlink is still wrong. |
| 17:37.08 | jelly | Kitt3n: you have not run this exact same command. |
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| 17:37.36 | Kitt3n | "ln -fs /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/build"? |
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| 17:37.51 | jelly | correct |
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| 17:38.25 | jelly | Kitt3n: rm /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/build and the run it again |
| 17:38.50 | jelly | my bad, I should have told you that earlier |
| 17:39.07 | Kitt3n | Seriously? Okay :D |
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| 17:39.33 | jelly | ln acts differently if the path to create a symlink looks like a directory |
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| 17:40.34 | Kitt3n | jelly, okay, ran it again. 100% sure that it's correct. |
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| 17:40.58 | jelly | and where does the link point to now? |
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| 17:42.13 | Kitt3n | jelly, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910292 |
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| 17:43.01 | jelly | did it work now? You tell me |
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| 17:43.31 | Kitt3n | Awesome \o/! Now it works :D |
| 17:43.35 | Kitt3n | Thanks! |
| 17:43.58 | Kitt3n | Hopefully the silly adapter actually works now. |
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| 17:44.13 | jelly | Kitt3n: also rm "sources" and that "linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64" thing from /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/ |
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| 17:45.00 | Natio | I need an alternative to $rootkode | su root - To log in as root, add a sudo user, and then log out again. Any hints? |
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| 17:46.30 | Kitt3n | jelly, done |
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| 17:47.57 | jelly | Kitt3n: the situation in /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/ is clean, then |
| 17:48.08 | Kitt3n | yay |
| 17:48.16 | atari314 | Natio: su -c 'useradd' && su -c "usermod -a -G sudo yourusername" ? |
| 17:48.51 | shreezbot | My machine has three drives in it that are 3TB, 4TB, and 4TB. I'd like to convert these to one single RAID volume, but I don't currently have anything to do with the data while I do the conversion. Is there any way to do the conversion in place without having to move the data? |
| 17:48.57 | Natio | Could work, but wont it ask for password, atari314 ? |
| 17:49.10 | Natio | the root password is stored in $rootkode |
| 17:49.26 | atari314 | Natio: yeah, it will :) |
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| 17:49.46 | atari314 | Natio: do you want to allow users do create other users? |
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| 17:50.13 | Natio | Thats what i want to work around atari314 - Im writing a autoinstall script, to allow people who dont know linux, to setup a set of basic apps. |
| 17:50.18 | jelly | Natio: can you use preseeding when installing debian to set up stuff? |
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| 17:50.39 | Natio | At the start i ask for $rootpassword, $normaluser, $normaluserpw |
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| 17:51.11 | Natio | jelly - its gonna be available to everyone, so i need to log briefly in as root, install sudo and add user to sudo, then log out of "su root" |
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| 17:51.49 | atari314 | Natio: you could preinstall sudo and allow sudo commands to be executed without requiring password |
| 17:52.02 | jelly | Natio: why not just make instructions for the use to do that first su - and add themselves to sudo group manually? |
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| 17:53.06 | Natio | Because this script has to be so neat, so they can run it with no problems |
| 17:53.13 | Firefly42_ | what the heck is wrong when i disabled screensaver and the screen goes blank? |
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| 17:54.16 | Firefly42_ | that thing teases me real bad |
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| 17:54.21 | jordanm | Natio: the usual method is something like [ "$(id -u)" != 0 ] && { printf 'You must be root to run this script\n'; exit 1; } |
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| 17:54.51 | atari314 | Natio: maybe you could ask on #bash if they know how to input that pass :) |
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| 17:55.12 | jordanm | Natio: but IMO, any 3rd party install script should handle installing it for a single user instead of globally |
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| 17:55.43 | Natio | Ty atari, ill join those :) |
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| 17:56.06 | atari314 | Natio: np ^^ |
| 17:56.32 | jelly | Natio: if you're inexperienced with scripting or programming a custom setuid binary, look into expect. |
| 17:57.08 | Natio | Wouldnt i need to login as root, to install expect as well? |
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| 17:57.27 | jelly | Natio: of course, but you can do that at installation time |
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| 18:00.50 | Firefly42_ | nobody me ze halp??? |
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| 18:02.47 | Firefly42_ | i would have guessed that after more than 10 years the screensaver technology is sorted |
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| 18:03.10 | atari314 | Firefly42_: screensavers have no real use today, imho |
| 18:03.32 | Firefly42_ | thats why i wanted to disable it but the thing still blanks my screen |
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| 18:03.57 | centrx | Disable "it" but "the thing" still blanks my screen |
| 18:04.13 | Imbue | is it possible to install one package from testing (plus dependencies)? |
| 18:04.33 | Imbue | this is not going to be on my main system - i notice there is no testing livecd, so it seems like the easiest way to achieve my goal |
| 18:04.36 | ksuhku | Firefly42_, if you look at xset, is the screensaver AND dpms disabled? |
| 18:04.45 | centrx | Imbue, It is not recommended unless you know what you are doing. It may pull in many other dependencies that affect your core system. |
| 18:04.51 | centrx | Imbue, Have you tried wheezy-backports? |
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| 18:05.19 | Imbue | centrx: my plan is to boot from a livecd, install the package, do what I need to do, doesn't matter what happens to the system because it's not persistent anyway |
| 18:05.44 | centrx | Sounds like a complicated plant |
| 18:05.45 | centrx | plan |
| 18:06.03 | Imbue | hmm, well, I can't think of an easier way to do it |
| 18:06.14 | Firefly42_ | ksuhku: oh, thanks for that hint |
| 18:06.14 | Imbue | unless I can find a reasonably up to date testing liveCD |
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| 18:06.33 | Brigo | wheezy-backports? like centrx said you? |
| 18:07.04 | Imbue | let's see |
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| 18:08.11 | Imbue | nah, it's not in backports |
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| 18:08.54 | Imbue | what's the potential issue? that I need to grab hundreds of megs of dependencies or something? |
| 18:10.19 | Firefly42_ | another question is how i can figure out on which DVD a certain tool is? |
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| 18:10.50 | Natio | With a bash script: How would you install sudo and add a user to the sudo file? |
| 18:10.58 | AimHere | If you set up your repositories correctly, apt-get <toolname> will prompt you for the right DVD |
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| 18:11.39 | Firefly42_ | AimHere: yes and i would like to know beforehand which DVDs i need to get |
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| 18:17.41 | thaicares | On Debian my starup initiates the warning "no running instance of xfce-panel was found" where I click execute, it then responds with "you are in kiosk mode you can not make any changes to xfce-panel" |
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| 18:18.29 | thaicares | how do I resolve this problem? it is more than annoying now, because I can't change my workspace switcher to more than one workspace :/ |
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| 18:22.53 | atari314 | thaicares: maybe you have accidentally enabled the kiosk mode, maybe this can help you disable it: https://wiki.xfce.org/howto/kiosk_mode |
| 18:23.12 | gele | how do i stop all logging to disk temporarily? i need to rescue a broken filesystem, but it is difficult when 'logsave' keeps trying to write to it. |
| 18:23.48 | thaicares | atari314 thank you but I think it has more to do with me trying out other window managers because that is when it started happening!!! |
| 18:23.51 | Firefly42_ | gele: is booting a livecd an option? |
| 18:24.20 | gele | Firefly42_: not right now, i don't have one handy. |
| 18:24.29 | shreezbot | So when I issue the "sudo shutdown now" command and my machine doesn't shut down, how can I figure out why it isn't shutting down? |
| 18:24.47 | petn-randall | gele: go into single user mode and mount the filesystem read-only? |
| 18:24.54 | atari314 | thaicares: then try checking your login manager (if you're using one) to see if it's forcing kiosk mode when you start xfce |
| 18:25.12 | atari314 | shreezbot: shutdown -h now or halt :) |
| 18:25.23 | petn-randall | shreezbot: Check the man page, you have the wrong parameters. |
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| 18:25.35 | gele | petn-randall: i can't mount it read-only, i need to be able to change it. |
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| 18:26.20 | thaicares | atari314 I do use a login manager 'slim' however when I first installed it I could login without issue! It wasn't until I tried blackbox, fluxbox, compiz, etc... that I broke it! |
| 18:26.51 | petn-randall | gele: How so? fsck doesn't require it to be mounted rewriteable, in fact it forces you to be mounted r/o. |
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| 18:27.30 | gele | petn-randall: it's btrfs and it thinks (wrongly) that it has no free space, i need to be able to remove files and rebalance it. btrfsck didn't help. |
| 18:27.36 | atari314 | thaicares: I understand, but things change, installing other WMs or DEs may, accidentally, change some config on your login manager |
| 18:27.45 | saivert | fsck doesn't require it to be mounted at all. |
| 18:27.46 | shreezbot | Even with the "sudo shutdown -h now" it isn't shutting down... It isn't hung, but it is refusing to come down.... |
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| 18:28.05 | petn-randall | gele: I don't think you'll get around a live system then. |
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| 18:28.14 | atari314 | shreezbot: well, that's weird :S |
| 18:28.28 | abrotman | gele: remount it read-only .. your logger will freakout, but no more logging! |
| 18:28.41 | shreezbot | atari314, Agreed! I can't figure out why it isn't coming down. |
| 18:28.53 | atari314 | shreezbot: does reboot works fine? |
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| 18:29.03 | thaicares | atari314 well thank you! I hope I can figure something out! |
| 18:29.06 | shreezbot | atari314, Nope, even reboot isn't doing it... :( |
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| 18:29.13 | petn-randall | saivert: Sorry, wrong wording, it should have been "... in fact it forces you to remount it r/o." It will of course work not mounted at all (and is the preferred way). |
| 18:29.28 | atari314 | shreezbot: I'm puzzled now O.o |
| 18:29.30 | petn-randall | abrotman: He needs to delete files first, see above. |
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| 18:29.57 | petn-randall | shreezbot: Paste the full output you get then. |
| 18:30.06 | shreezbot | atari314, Actually, I just found a process running that won't even die with a kill -9 |
| 18:30.17 | atari314 | lol |
| 18:30.19 | abrotman | petn-randall: excuses excuses |
| 18:30.47 | petn-randall | shreezbot: It can happen if it's waiting for the I/O layer. |
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| 18:32.05 | shreezbot | petn-randall, Actually, it died, I was doing the kill from inside htop and I hadn't run htop with sudo... |
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| 18:34.06 | Firefly42_ | when you have all 3 debian 7.2 DVDs and plan to setup a more secure system would you dump those and download 7.4? |
| 18:34.32 | abrotman | no, just get the update CDs |
| 18:34.48 | abrotman | or start using jigdo |
| 18:34.51 | abrotman | looks at his hat .. |
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| 18:35.43 | gele | Firefly42_: how much 'more secure'? why not use tails? |
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| 18:36.19 | Firefly42_ | gele: tails? |
| 18:36.45 | atari314 | Firefly42_: https://tails.boum.org/ |
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| 18:36.55 | gele | Firefly42_: a debian-based live system that uses tor for all networking and never touches the disk unless told to. |
| 18:37.41 | Firefly42_ | looks promising |
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| 18:51.06 | Firefly42_ | jigdo's |
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| 18:54.40 | crunchbang__ | I have a 1Tb external harddrive and it will not mount under linux Error mounting: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat' |
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| 18:55.34 | ompaul | dirtyluna: would that be by any chance on a crunchbang box? |
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| 18:55.55 | dirtyluna | yes it would |
| 18:56.06 | ompaul | dirtyluna: can you ask them in #crunchbang please |
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| 18:56.15 | gele | dirtyluna: there is an exfat-fuse package that might work. |
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| 18:57.11 | dirtyluna | i am banned from that channel for an unknown reason |
| 18:57.20 | Kitt3n | Cool. |
| 18:57.28 | ompaul | dirtyluna: /msg nickserv register |
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| 18:57.55 | Kitt3n | ompaul, I am not registered and I could enter. |
| 18:58.11 | Kitt3n | As far as I know. |
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| 18:58.44 | axisys_ | preseed/early_command downloads the shell script and feeds it to /var/lib/dpkg/info/download-installer.postinst .. I verified on virtual console 2 ... but it never run.. what gives? |
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| 18:58.54 | axisys_ | d-i preseed/early_command string cd /tmp; wget ftp://192.168.1.242/download/early_command_lvm_raid -O early_command; chmod 755 early_command; echo /tmp/early_command installer >> /var/lib/dpkg/info/download-installer.postinst |
| 18:59.00 | Gunni | so, weird predicament i have here, i have a partially working debian cd, i have no replacements, but i have a bootable/working debian usb stick, but the machine does not support usb booting. I managed to boot using the cd, but it fails the detect and mount cd-rom, can i somehow make it detect and mount the usb stick instead of the cd? |
| 18:59.04 | ompaul | Kitt3n: /msg nickserv identify with-your-password |
| 18:59.25 | Kitt3n | ompaul, I don't care :P |
| 18:59.30 | ompaul | dirtyluna: we don't support other distros here, the main reason being we don't know what the deltas are |
| 18:59.54 | dirtyluna | ok NP thanks anyway |
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| 19:00.11 | Gunni | I am able to mount the usb stick using the mount command on the command shell, but where should i mount it so the installer uses it? |
| 19:00.21 | ompaul | dirtyluna: suggest you ask in #freenode for network help with joining |
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| 19:00.37 | Kitt3n | ompaul, he's already there. |
| 19:00.38 | dirtyluna | i got it thanks , ompaul |
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| 19:04.16 | Kitt3n | dirtyluna, well, I'll give you a shot, do you have exfat-fuse installed? If so, try mount.exfat-fuse /dev/exfat-partition /mnt/sdX |
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| 19:06.30 | Imbue | turns out booting from livecd and installing the 5/6 packages I needed from testing worked fine :p |
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| 19:06.57 | Firefly42_ | nice |
| 19:07.21 | Firefly42_ | but keep in mind that they wont get updated this way |
| 19:07.43 | Imbue | no no |
| 19:07.55 | Imbue | the package was installed on the liveCD system, in RAM |
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| 19:08.00 | Firefly42_ | oh |
| 19:08.04 | Imbue | it did its' job - now I don't need it any more |
| 19:08.04 | Imbue | :p |
| 19:08.12 | Firefly42_ | :D |
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| 19:09.20 | Some_Person | I'm still having trouble with bluetooth. At this point, it only works if I boot to Windows and then reboot into Linux. |
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| 19:09.41 | Some_Person | though I'm not really in a good position to troubleshoot right now since I don't have USB keyboard/mouse on hand |
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| 19:12.11 | Some_Person | What do y'all think is going on? I have an Atheros AR3011 |
| 19:12.42 | gele | Some_Person: missing firmware? |
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| 19:13.39 | koell | can i set the $BROWSER env var for a custom application only? |
| 19:14.01 | Some_Person | gele: I have firmware-atheros installed, which should include what I need |
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| 19:15.58 | gele | koell: yes, if you run it from a terminal. 'BROWSER=my_special_browser some_program' |
| 19:16.09 | gele | or from a shell script. |
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| 19:16.28 | Kitt3n | Some_Person, kernel version? |
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| 19:16.39 | koell | gele: but then it will set the env variable to it? |
| 19:17.09 | gele | koell: for that particular execution of that program. |
| 19:17.20 | koell | gele: great thanks. |
| 19:18.46 | Kitt3n | Some_Person, if you have 3.2 or less, you should upgrade to 3.3 or higher and see if that fixes your bluetooth problem |
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| 19:20.25 | dizzylizzy | I'm having issues operating a debian system in a very low memory environment, namely a VPS with 128 MB of ram |
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| 19:21.18 | Some_Person | Kitt3n: I'm on 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 19:21.35 | Some_Person | So you think updating to 3.3 will help me? |
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| 19:22.15 | Some_Person | By the way, to get it working at all, I had to install a package called "ar3011-dkms" from somewhere and blacklist the ath3k module |
| 19:22.41 | Kitt3n | Some_Person, well, if you do upgrade, I would try the latest longterm kernel release but keep the 3.2 one just in case. |
| 19:23.02 | gele | Some_Person: from 'somewhere'? are you sure that driver loads the right firmware? |
| 19:23.10 | centrx | 3.12 is in backports |
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| 19:23.14 | Some_Person | gele: Well, my card is an Atheros AR3011 |
| 19:23.30 | gele | because the fact that it only works if you have booted windows earlier sounds a lot like a firmware loading problem. |
| 19:23.49 | Some_Person | gele: Agreed |
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| 19:24.05 | Some_Person | that would make sense |
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| 19:24.39 | Some_Person | However, at this point, if I break it, Linux becomes unusable since the only other input device I have is a touchscreen and I can't currently log in with that |
| 19:25.06 | Some_Person | (unless there's some way to add an on-screen keyboard to lightdm?) |
| 19:25.30 | gele | you could set it to auto-login while you're trying to fix the problem. |
| 19:25.44 | Some_Person | gele: Huh, you're right, that would work |
| 19:26.05 | Some_Person | I already have an on-screen keyboard set up in my desktop environment |
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| 19:27.59 | Imbue | is it possible to hide devices from nautilus? |
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| 19:28.39 | Imbue | after a luks install, the LVM partition is shown by nautilus as 'xxx GB Unrecognised' which is a bit frustrating, I can't see a reason why you would ever need to mount it there |
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| 19:30.09 | Some_Person | Okay, I've got autologin working, so what should I do first to try to get this working properly? |
| 19:31.05 | gele | Imbue: don't think so, there's an open bug for that: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=593175 |
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| 19:31.56 | gele | Imbue: and it's not unique to nautilus, i've seen the same thing in thunar... |
| 19:32.17 | Imbue | oh dear |
| 19:32.25 | Imbue | it wouldn't be as annoying if it weren't at the top of the list! |
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| 19:32.29 | Imbue | :p |
| 19:32.36 | gele | i expect the solution would be some sort of udev rule. |
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| 19:37.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, atheros firmware |
| 19:37.04 | dpkg | Firmware from userspace is required by the <ar9170usb>, <ath9k_htc> and <ath3k> USB device drivers. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-atheros package to provide; this package is not required for the <ath5k> or <ath9k> drivers, and not required for any Atheros Ethernet device. Firmware for the <carl9170> driver is provided by the firmware-linux-free package. |
| 19:37.10 | i5um41ru | Hi, anyone.. I can't open gedit using konsole.. it say.. can't open display how to solve this?? |
| 19:37.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, ^^^^ |
| 19:37.46 | centrx | i5um41ru, Are you trying to run it as root? |
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| 19:38.21 | i5um41ru | yeah.. |
| 19:38.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | then don't do that :) |
| 19:38.44 | gnubie | I am doing a net install, I am where I choose the Software to install. How do I get to a KDE only desktop from here? |
| 19:39.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | or use "su -" instead of su (or use vi or nano to edit files) |
| 19:40.35 | i5um41ru | centrx: how to solve this.. or how to run an app such sudo in ubuntu.. |
| 19:40.49 | centrx | i5um41ru, You can install sudo in Debian |
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| 19:41.08 | centrx | i5um41ru, Or CutMeOwnThroat recommended something with su - |
| 19:41.11 | Some_Person | CutMeOwnThroat: I already have firmware-atheros installed |
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| 19:42.34 | Some_Person | CutMeOwnThroat: When I installed that, I ended up with "Can't change to loading configuration err" |
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| 19:42.55 | Some_Person | and I don't have libmtp-runtime installed |
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| 19:43.09 | i5um41ru | centrx: but still get the same result.. no protocol specified cannot open display.. |
| 19:43.10 | Some_Person | (there's a bug report saying that removing that fixes it, but I don't even have it installed) |
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| 19:44.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | gnubie, I guess https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo "Select a Desktop Environment" answers that |
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| 19:44.38 | _val_ | i5um41ru: does it work as normal user? |
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| 19:45.21 | gnubie | CutMeOwnThroat> thanks |
| 19:45.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, then I guess there will be something in the bts about it... yes, it is: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=641749 |
| 19:45.48 | Some_Person | CutMeOwnThroat: I've seen that. I don't even have libmtp-runtime installed on my system |
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| 19:46.06 | Some_Person | so it can't be the same issue |
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| 19:46.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | it looks extremely similar, though |
| 19:46.45 | i5um41ru | _val: it's work with normal user.. but I want to open a file that's own by root |
| 19:47.20 | Some_Person | CutMeOwnThroat: But the solution given there doesn't apply |
| 19:47.25 | _val_ | i5um41ru: you can't open a file as normal user which is owned by root. |
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| 19:47.32 | _val_ | You first need to become root. |
| 19:47.52 | danners | is it possible to upgrade from stable to unstable without going through testing? |
| 19:47.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, the exolanation about what the error means probably does, though |
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| 19:48.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, also, the fix is a fix to the firmware? how do you know that doesn't apply? |
| 19:48.40 | i5um41ru | _val: that's right,, I can open gedit using normal user.. but when using as root .. an error occured,, where i can't open gedit and all GUI app... |
| 19:48.56 | Some_Person | CutMeOwnThroat: Huh? Where is there a fix to the firmware? |
| 19:49.24 | _val_ | i5um41ru: so as normal user what does echo "$DISPLAY" tell you? |
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| 19:49.50 | gele | danners: yes, though i'm not sure i'd call that an 'upgrade'. things will break if you run unstable. |
| 19:49.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, James Leddy writes[1]: This turned out to be a problem with the firmware. [...] |
| 19:50.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | maybe you should have read the whole bug |
| 19:50.20 | sir_mud | i5um41ru, you could try gksu instead of su |
| 19:50.21 | Some_Person | CutMeOwnThroat: All right, I'll read through it more closely. Thanks for letting me know |
| 19:50.33 | i5um41ru | _val: when typing echo $DISPLAY,, i get the following resutl ":0" |
| 19:51.19 | _val_ | i5um41ru: maybe you need to become root and run it as export DISPLAY=:0 && gedit |
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| 19:51.36 | _val_ | and yes sir_mud has a good point there. I don't know much about gksu. |
| 19:51.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, could still be something else... but could be the same bug being triggered by something different than there... |
| 19:51.51 | sir_mud | this is exactly what gksu/gksudo are designed for |
| 19:52.16 | i5um41ru | sir_mud: thanks,,that help me :) .. & _val: thanks too :) |
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| 19:54.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, guess it would be safe to get the firmware package from sid and install that... firmware doesn't usually come with a lot of [version-specific] dependencies – yes... there's only Suggests: initramfs-tools, linux-image |
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| 19:55.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | (also haven't gotten to the end of the bug, though... so... did they fix that one?) |
| 19:55.30 | sir_mud | anyone familiar with mutliarch issues, specifically installing gtk2-dev:i386 on amd64 |
| 19:57.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm, and this was still while squeeze was current |
| 19:57.39 | sir_mud | i didn't see any open bugs regarding any multiarch problems, i'm on wheezy btw |
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| 19:58.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, independent if that provides a solution for you or not... they spend a lot of time in that thread debugging the problem... so using the tools they use there, you should be able to write a pretty good bug report supplying all the info they dug up there for your system |
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| 20:00.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions firmware-atheros |
| 20:00.26 | judd | Package: firmware-atheros on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.40~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.40; sid/non-free: 0.40 |
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| 20:00.46 | DGnome | Hi! when installing roundcube, how can I satisfy it's httpd dependency with lighttpd? |
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| 20:01.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | Some_Person, I'd first try installing 0.40~bpo70+1 from wheezy-backports, though... that's done in 5 minutes including a cold reboot |
| 20:01.35 | Kitt3n | DGnome, it asks for httpd when installing? |
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| 20:02.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | boing |
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| 20:02.10 | DGnome | Kitt3n: apt selects apache2 with force |
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| 20:02.19 | centrx | MAN THE PERISCOPE |
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| 20:02.24 | Kitt3n | DGnome, nothing to do then. |
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| 20:02.45 | neo1691 | Hello. I am using debian wheezy for quite some time now. Very happy with it. The only problem is that I want to install latest version of softwares like iceweasel and xfce etc. I plan to reinstall everything tomorrow. Any suggestions, whether I can safely move to testing or unstable for daily use single laptop? |
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| 20:03.07 | Kitt3n | neo1691, why reinstall if you want Iceweasel 24? |
| 20:03.12 | sir_mud | neo1691, there is a mozilla backports that provides the latest iceweasal |
| 20:03.12 | DGnome | Kitt3n: roundcube-core dep:apache2 or lighttpd according to packages.debian.org |
| 20:03.13 | Kitt3n | I got 24 today |
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| 20:03.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | DGnome, it does not... just install lighttpd ... the dependency actually says (with | meaning 'or') apache2 | lighttpd | httpd |
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| 20:03.57 | ompaul | neo1691: you can safely move if you can afford downtime - it is not the stable release - should be ok but hey such is life :) |
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| 20:03.59 | DGnome | CutMeOwnThroat: lighttpd is already installed but still apt wants apache2 |
| 20:04.02 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell neo1691 -about wheezy-backports |
| 20:04.08 | aleza84 | Hey anyone here, with knowledge on how to install debian on a Cobal Cube 2700? |
| 20:04.09 | neo1691 | Kitt3n, sir_mud Already tried had. Both have a few bugs. And I am reinstalling everything again for other reasons, not just for softwares |
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| 20:04.27 | Kitt3n | neo1691, I see, I see. A reinstall is always nice! :p |
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| 20:04.54 | neo1691 | ompaul, Still, unstable or testing, what do you guys use? |
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| 20:04.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | DGnome, what version of debian is that and on which architecture? |
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| 20:05.07 | sir_mud | neo1691, i'm still on wheezy |
| 20:05.15 | DGnome | CutMeOwnThroat: wheezy amd64 |
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| 20:05.20 | gele | neo1691: only stable releases have security updates. |
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| 20:05.30 | neo1691 | ectospasm, Yes I have backports! Do you all use stable for daily use on laptops? |
| 20:05.39 | gele | yes. |
| 20:05.42 | Kitt3n | yes |
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| 20:05.47 | Kitt3n | Stable = best. |
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| 20:06.07 | sir_mud | yes |
| 20:06.09 | ectospasm | I do not, but I accept the eccentricity of Sid |
| 20:06.38 | neo1691 | I thought you all cool guys must be using unstable, and was wondering guys using stable are still cowards!! :P |
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| 20:06.51 | ompaul | neo1691: I'm happy on something that isn't stable, I don't suggest anyone else run it |
| 20:06.53 | ectospasm | heh, if I could get away with putting Debian on this MacBook Pro, I'd do it in a heartbeat. This is a digression |
| 20:07.02 | Kitt3n | Cowards? Nah, I just prefer not using an Ubuntu-ish distro :D |
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| 20:07.09 | Some_Person | Just noticed this in dmesg: [ 3.706619] usb 2-1.3: firmware: agent aborted loading ath3k-3.fw (not found?) |
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| 20:07.19 | gele | wheezy is just a year old, it's hardly ancient in terms of features. |
| 20:07.32 | Kitt3n | ectospasm, just install Debian on your mac? :p |
| 20:07.35 | nabblet | neo1691: well, i don't have much time to fiddle with my OS, hence stable. |
| 20:07.35 | neo1691 | Kitt3n, I got you! Even I migrated from ubuntu |
| 20:07.39 | Some_Person | (this is with the ar3011-dkms thingy, not the ath3k module) |
| 20:07.53 | Kitt3n | neo1691, Debian is to me, Ubuntu without the crashes and shit |
| 20:07.57 | nabblet | neo1691: that said, i even have to fiddle with stable :P |
| 20:08.06 | sir_mud | i've got a laptop still running etch :D (it's very old) |
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| 20:08.13 | ompaul | !etch |
| 20:08.14 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 20:08.26 | neo1691 | Ah! You guys helped me made an important decision! |
| 20:08.47 | ompaul | neo1691: if it breaks and you can't fix it, you get to keep the pieces ;-) |
| 20:09.01 | Kitt3n | Hah! XD |
| 20:09.05 | ompaul | neo1691: backups are your friend if you do crazy stuff |
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| 20:09.25 | aristoteles | hey debian people, i'm not sure whether to ask this in #python or in #cgi or here. My issue is this: when I run "/usr/bin/env python3" in bash, I see the python3.3 interpreter start up. but when i use that as a shebang line in a cgi program, I see that python2.7 starts. so, obviously the envrionments must be very different for me as a user and the cgi |
| 20:09.31 | Some_Person | Well, sure enough, that got it working. I copied "ath3k-1.fw" to a new file "ath3k-3.fw" and it works |
| 20:09.44 | aristoteles | how can i make python3 available to cgi? and/or what else might i be missing? |
| 20:10.14 | sir_mud | yea, the shebang wouldn't be used when using it as cgi |
| 20:10.34 | sir_mud | should be a config option |
| 20:10.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | DGnome, I guess if you just install the package with dpkg -i roundcube-core.whatever.deb, afterwards "aptitude why apache2" would tell you... just looking at dependencies for roundcube-core, I don't see any reason (except maybe that you're getting something else than the wheezy package) |
| 20:10.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | DGnome, you could get the one from backports, that only has webservers as a suggests: |
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| 20:10.56 | nabblet | Feb 9 10:32:57 box pulseaudio[6926]: [alsa-sink] alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_avail() returned a value that is exceptionally large: 378416 bytes (2145 ms). |
| 20:11.00 | nabblet | Feb 9 10:32:57 box pulseaudio[6926]: [alsa-sink] alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hda_intel'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. |
| 20:11.02 | nabblet | Feb 9 10:32:57 box pulseaudio[6926]: [alsa-sink] alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump(): |
| 20:11.26 | nabblet | Hi i think I read something about snd_pcm_dump() in some release info for 7.4 - but I can't find it anymore :/ Am I wrong? |
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| 20:11.33 | aristoteles | sir_mud, really? how else would the system have any idea what interpreter to use without looking at the shebang line. |
| 20:11.53 | aristoteles | the script is a .cgi file so looking at the shebang would be the only way to invoke it, right? |
| 20:12.08 | sir_mud | aristoteles, check the mod_python config file |
| 20:12.26 | aristoteles | sir_mud i will look for this. |
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| 20:12.48 | aristoteles | sir_mud: is this possibly somewhere in /etc/apache2/ |
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| 20:13.02 | sir_mud | aristoteles, should be under /etc/apache2/mods-enabled |
| 20:13.05 | DGnome | CutMeOwnThroat: ok, thanks. Weird issue, I dunno :) |
| 20:13.35 | sir_mud | aristoteles, i don't currently have mod_python installed but that's where php's config is |
| 20:13.37 | DGnome | CutMeOwnThroat: beats the dust out of me |
| 20:14.36 | sir_mud | aristoteles, also check under the conf.d dir and the apache2.conf file |
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| 20:15.32 | aristoteles | sir_mud, i don't have any mod_python enabled. your hypothesis is interesting, but i don't know what the mod_python does for me. i already have python installed system-wide and it's obvious that in general i have CGI configured so that python can be the interepret (evidenced by the fact that python2.7 is running my CGI script) |
| 20:15.54 | aristoteles | sir_mud: i will check the conf.d dir and apache2.conf as you suggest. |
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| 20:17.49 | moritz31 | hey can somebody help me maybe with some debian boot problems ? |
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| 20:18.14 | neo1691 | I got disconnected, anyone replied on my gnome, xfce or tiling window manager question? |
| 20:18.35 | nabblet | moritz31: don't ask to ask. describe you problem and actions as precise as possible and see if someone replies |
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| 20:19.29 | sir_mud | neo1691, i didn't catch that question |
| 20:20.04 | nabblet | my internet is so slow. takes 22 minutes for apt-get update :( |
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| 20:21.11 | neo1691 | I wanted to ask do you all linux ninjas use tiling window managers like i3 or awesome or the more conventional DM like gnome or xfce? sir_mud |
| 20:21.14 | Smrtz|Lab | Hey, I'm trying to set my wireless card up on my raspberry pi, can someone link me to an article on it please? |
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| 20:22.15 | moritz31 | okay :) what i done was to try with rtcwake to boot my system @ specific times .... first time it works (i used s3 state) then when the system booted up again i tried a second time and got an error (/dev/rtc0 resource in use) thought a restart could maybe help, but my system never booted up again, it boots to grub then init ramdisk then shows for ~ 10sec loading pls wait and there is for ~20sec only the _ and then the pc shutdown : |
| 20:23.18 | aristoteles | my oh my, a small test file with only the shebang and "import sys; print(sys.version)" reveals that my system *does* invoke python3.3 in this context. there must be something about the larger program which is causing it to fall back to python2.7. my issue is more complicated than i thought. |
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| 20:23.29 | Firefly42_ | does anybody know what the warning of rkhunter is about regarding /usr/bin/unhide.rb? |
| 20:23.42 | aristoteles | i will have to investigate more. thank you for your help, sir_mud |
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| 20:24.32 | JohnnyL | Lets say I wanted to distribute a linux app but my app is dependent on cgroups, how would I help my users set everything up? |
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| 20:25.53 | nabblet | neo1691: that's more of a question for #debian-offtopic. Also, people use the gui that suits their needs best |
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| 20:26.17 | neo1691 | nabblet, Yes I got that! :) |
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| 20:27.25 | nabblet | neo1691: no problem :) My advice: try them all, pick the one you like (that's what i did). Repeat every 2 years. I use fluxbox (window manager) with kupfer (very very smart application kicker) |
| 20:27.27 | JohnnyL | ? |
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| 20:28.47 | Imbue | is there a setting I can change to make my machine hibernate if the power button is pressed? |
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| 20:29.04 | Imbue | gnome-tweak-tool has that option for 'close screen' |
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| 20:29.37 | neo1691 | I am going to stick with xfce unless I become a linux ninja, I am shocked at the level of customization in tiling window managers when I go to reddit.com/r/unixporn |
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| 20:31.27 | nabblet | neo1691: and when do you consider yourself a "linux ninja"? |
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| 20:32.15 | neo1691 | When I am able to use the command line at a stretch for a week without touching the gui nabblet |
| 20:33.29 | i5um41ru | Hi, could you help me with this one http://pastie.org/8719945 ?? I'm really stuck.. |
| 20:34.02 | neo1691 | and be comfortable with the configuration files and editing them without any help from google! |
| 20:34.22 | centrx | i5um41ru, Table already exists |
| 20:34.42 | thoonai | heyho |
| 20:34.46 | i5um41ru | centrx: but actually not.. :( |
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| 20:35.19 | abrotman | i5um41ru: then ask #mysql |
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| 20:36.34 | i5um41ru | abrotman: I've already asked :) but there is no answer that solved my problem .. :( |
| 20:37.50 | mallxs | when i mount from squeeze to wheezy; i see owner info as nobody and nogroupl but if i edit a file in a rws dir it does set my uid but does not obey the sticky bit and sets a other gui |
| 20:38.55 | abrotman | i5um41ru: According to that, the table exists, show us the output for dropping the table? |
| 20:40.13 | i5um41ru | abortman: so, I have to try to drop a table..? |
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| 20:40.41 | thoonai | does there is good tutorial how to do this? |
| 20:40.51 | nabblet | !fhs |
| 20:40.51 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard, or "man hier". |
| 20:41.30 | thoonai | I don't want to use pxe (security issues) |
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| 20:44.50 | i5um41ru | abrotman: actually, at skeffo database,,, there is no tables yet..so i import database from an sql file.. get that error... |
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| 20:54.43 | atari314 | *know |
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| 20:56.28 | Xuisce_ | hi |
| 20:56.33 | ScottE | atari314: try "dpkg-query --search /sbin/getty" |
| 20:57.09 | atari314 | ScottE: tyvm sir! |
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| 20:57.26 | ScottE | Sure atari314 |
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| 21:04.07 | thoonai | anyone experience with debootstrap? |
| 21:04.19 | jhutchins | thoonai: Lots of people. |
| 21:04.39 | jhutchins | thoonai: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 21:05.03 | thoonai | willing to help me and give me advices how to get it running best |
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| 21:05.52 | thoonai | jhutchins: I want to install debian on a 128MB cf card (for a thin client) and boot the / from nfs |
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| 21:06.09 | thoonai | jhutchins: I don't want to use PXE ;) |
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| 21:13.41 | thoonai | I seem to scare everyone away |
| 21:13.43 | thoonai | ... |
| 21:14.20 | thoonai | jhutchins: I didnt found a good documentation/tutorial. though one in german which not seems totally right |
| 21:14.31 | bugoff | what do you want to know? i used it once or twice |
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| 21:15.47 | thoonai | bugoff: how I get it working, that the bootloader and the kernel is at the cf card and the rest on the nfs |
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| 21:16.28 | thoonai | I'll try to mount the cf at /export/node_0/boot and then trow debootstrap on it |
| 21:17.05 | bugoff | mount everything on the right place? |
| 21:17.13 | bugoff | and then run debootstrap |
| 21:17.21 | thoonai | bugoff: cf at boot? |
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| 21:17.35 | thoonai | the rest should be able to be on the nfs, or? |
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| 21:19.22 | bugoff | hmm, so you have a cf card and you want to install debian on it. And when you boot it you want to nfs mount / ? |
| 21:19.34 | thoonai | bugoff: yep |
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| 21:20.48 | bugoff | hmm |
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| 21:20.58 | bugoff | and what does debootstrap have to do with it? :p |
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| 21:21.13 | Linudert | I'd like to use the source distro (Debian) but it never worked for me properly. Last time there wasn't effects on KDE and was fbradeon blacklisted or something like that (Radeon 9600GPU). But all the distros based on Debian works. This why not? |
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| 21:22.24 | bugoff | thoonai: also keep in mind that if your machine looses it's network connection, the machine will be unresponsive. I would suggest you only mount some partitions over nfs. So you can still ssh into the machine when the nfs would go down |
| 21:22.30 | bugoff | or when you have network problems |
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| 21:23.56 | sir_mud | thoonai, are you using ltsp? |
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| 21:34.16 | jhutchins | bugoff: If you're familiar with ltsp it's a thin-client system that mostly runs on a remote server. |
| 21:34.17 | aguitel | how to know what vga driver are in use |
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| 21:35.06 | jhutchins | thoonai: I've never worked with a split system like that, but debootstrap does build a fairly minimal install. iirc it doesn't install grub or the kernel. |
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| 21:35.38 | jhutchins | thoonai: I've built more than one successful systems with debootstrap. |
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| 21:36.57 | thoonai | I just need X xdmx and xdmx tools on the server, so this will be ok ;) |
| 21:37.13 | thoonai | E: Failed getting release file http://http.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/Release |
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| 21:37.48 | thoonai | somehow debootstrap fails with this command: debootstrap wheezy . http://http.debian.org/debian |
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| 21:39.00 | vppy_ | hi all, how would I change the screen resolution in a terminal. I dont have a gui, just command line |
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| 21:39.15 | thoonai | vppy_: try xrandr |
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| 21:39.42 | vppy_ | xrandr cant open display! I have tried that already |
| 21:39.52 | thoonai | vppy_: sorry |
| 21:40.38 | sir_mud | vppy_, only thing i can think of is the vga parameter on the kernel's commandline |
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| 21:41.27 | jhutchins | thoonai: http.debian.org not a valid server. |
| 21:41.37 | vppy_ | sir_mud: Thanks, I ill look into that |
| 21:41.46 | vppy_ | thoonai: Its no worries bro :D |
| 21:41.50 | sir_mud | there's also fbset apparently |
| 21:42.14 | thoonai | jhutchins: darn, thanks |
| 21:42.22 | sir_mud | vppy_: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO/x1228.html |
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| 21:43.09 | sir_mud | it's also available in the repo as fbset |
| 21:43.25 | jhutchins | thoonai: ftp.debian.org will work. |
| 21:43.32 | thoonai | it does |
| 21:43.39 | jhutchins | xlnt |
| 21:43.55 | thoonai | I'm not totally sure, what I'm doing, but something works |
| 21:43.57 | thoonai | ;) |
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| 21:46.36 | PhantomPhreak53 | I am trying to configure a proxy on a Dell r610. The server has 4 nic card. eth2 is a dsl connection, eth3 is a satelitte connection. I would like to share my internet connection out through eth0. There is a crossover cable from eth0 to a switch that is networks in the other computers. How do I pass my network connection out through eth0? Does it matter which interface is active for the other 2 |
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| 21:48.22 | thoonai | jhutchins: vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 21:48.49 | thoonai | jhutchins: how that happened? I didn't give AMD64 as parameter o.O |
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| 21:51.34 | sir_mud | PhantomPhreak53, this article may be a little arch specific, but should be just what you need: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_Sharing |
| 21:51.50 | babilen | thoonai: I would, however, recommend a closer mirror (e.g. ftp.CC.debian.org with CC being a country code such as uk, de, hk, tw, jp, us, ...) |
| 21:52.11 | Firefly42_ | could somebody explain to me please why tripwire depends on postfix? |
| 21:52.20 | mo1991 | 32.00000000000 |
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| 21:53.05 | saivert | lol got bitten by the suspend terminal bug. put stty -ixon in .bashrc. PHEW! |
| 21:53.21 | saivert | accidentally pressed ctrl-s without realizing |
| 21:54.07 | mo1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.28 | Firefly42_ | mo1991: tame your cat :P |
| 21:54.28 | thoonai | babilen: /usr/sbin/debootstrap: 382: cd: can't cd to http://ftp.de.debian.org |
| 21:54.32 | thoonai | babilen: :/ |
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| 21:55.13 | Firefly42_ | stabs tripwire |
| 21:55.19 | sir_mud | Firefly42_, looks like it just needs some kind of mta,also looks like any will do |
| 21:55.24 | thoonai | Firefly42_: O.O |
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| 21:55.39 | Firefly42_ | yes, but why does it need an MTA i dont understand |
| 21:55.47 | thoonai | babilen: sorry, my bad: E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-i368/Packages |
| 21:55.57 | babilen | thoonai: Sorry, it really doesn't help without the entire and exact command and entire output |
| 21:55.59 | Firefly42_ | its meant for adding security and the MTA requirement adds another attack vector |
| 21:56.14 | thoonai | babilen: debootstrap --arch i368 wheezy . http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian |
| 21:56.15 | babilen | thoonai: ftp2.de ? |
| 21:56.30 | thoonai | same |
| 21:56.30 | babilen | Derpman: 386 not 368 |
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| 21:56.47 | babilen | thoonai: ^^^ |
| 21:56.56 | sir_mud | Firefly42_, i'm sure its just to send emails about issues and such, but you should check the tripwire docs |
| 21:56.57 | babilen | Derpman: Sorry :) |
| 21:57.10 | mo1991 | Firefly42_ - indeed - |
| 21:57.15 | thoonai | babilen: m( stupidity hurts |
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| 21:58.43 | ioudas_ | abrotman is such a fucking faggot. |
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| 22:00.05 | SalsaVerde | I did an update last night and now gnome doesn't work. I have to log into recovery mode. |
| 22:00.16 | SalsaVerde | Anyone else hit with this? |
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| 22:00.44 | sir_mud | my gnome is working fine SalsaVerde, are you on wheezy? |
| 22:00.53 | babilen | thoonai: heh, that was a simple typo that looked correct enough to not be easily found. no worries |
| 22:01.03 | SalsaVerde | sir_mud: Yeah, wheezy has been nothing but problems for me. |
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| 22:01.07 | thoonai | babilen: second time this evening |
| 22:01.13 | babilen | oh no! |
| 22:01.18 | sir_mud | SalsaVerde, i also don't remember an update to gnome recently |
| 22:01.25 | babilen | laughs |
| 22:01.40 | sir_mud | does gdm even come up? |
| 22:01.52 | SalsaVerde | sir_mud: I don't recall that either, but something is causing gnome to fail to start |
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| 22:02.32 | SalsaVerde | sir_mud: not anymore. I used to have an issue with one user that happend after an update. I've been unable to resolve and the last update killed gnome for all users. |
| 22:02.45 | sir_mud | check /var/log/gdm3 |
| 22:02.52 | SalsaVerde | It freezes if I boot to gdm |
| 22:03.06 | SalsaVerde | ok. will do |
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| 22:04.56 | jhutchins | SalsaVerde: There is /var/log/aptitude |
| 22:05.02 | sir_mud | SalsaVerde, should be /var/log/gdm3/:0-greeter.log |
| 22:06.02 | sir_mud | :0.log and :0-slave.log |
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| 22:08.24 | Lars_G_ | What's the "right" method/place to set an iptables (-t nat) rule for startup application on wheezy? |
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| 22:10.26 | thoonai | debootstrap ignoered /boot o.O |
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| 22:12.33 | thoonai | it doesnt copied anything to the cf card mounted at boot |
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| 22:12.44 | sir_mud | is there a way for me to install libgtk2.0-dev:i386 on amd64 that won't uninstall most of gnome3 like aptitude wants to? |
| 22:12.59 | nightfly | no |
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| 22:13.28 | babilen | sir_mud: I wouldn't necessarily recommend aptitude for multiarch operations anyway, but it really depends. Not all libraries are co-installable (yet?). |
| 22:13.53 | jhutchins | Lars_G_: More than one right way, I build a "firewall" script and call it from rc.local. |
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| 22:14.16 | jhutchins | Lars_G_: There is a preconfigured utility that saves and restores iptables. |
| 22:14.41 | thoonai | does debootstrap also copies a kernel to ./boot? |
| 22:15.02 | thoonai | if . is the directory, where debootstrap should work? |
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| 22:16.04 | jhutchins | Lars_G_: Looks like the current version is iptables-persistent. |
| 22:16.40 | jhutchins | thoonai: I'm not sure what --second-stage does, but just plain iptables doesn't set up the kernel or grub. |
| 22:16.50 | jhutchins | thoonai: YOu have to chroot for that. |
| 22:17.27 | thoonai | o.O |
| 22:17.29 | Lars_G_ | I'll check the system, thanks jhutchins |
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| 22:18.13 | thoonai | jhutchins: for debootstrap? |
| 22:18.33 | sir_mud | babilen, just tried plain apt-get it does a little worse than aptitude in this instance, more to remove |
| 22:19.12 | babilen | sir_mud: Did you cycle through various solutions in aptitude? |
| 22:19.13 | thoonai | help. im totally confused |
| 22:19.14 | Firefly42_ | oh for heavens sake. on what DVD is gcc-4.7-plugin-dev? its not on the first 3 :(# |
| 22:19.25 | jhutchins | thoonai: right, I've done chroot in the past, not sure what --second-stage actually does. |
| 22:19.27 | sir_mud | babilen, yea they don't get any better |
| 22:19.38 | babilen | sir_mud: Seriously, I haven't tried this and simply try to get more information. Mind showing me on http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 22:19.49 | vppy_ | Is there a way I can fix partition table for debian. I have a device /dev/sda1. But when I fdisk it it says does not contain a recognized partition table |
| 22:19.55 | jhutchins | thoonai: Your experience is consistent with that I've seen, /boot on the target is empty. |
| 22:20.14 | frostschutz | vppy_, you don't usually partition partitions |
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| 22:21.00 | thoonai | feels confused and irritated |
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| 22:21.16 | sir_mud | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/81259 |
| 22:21.20 | vppy_ | frostschutz: I tried fisk -l but it says unable to seek on /dev/sda invalid argument |
| 22:21.29 | aguitel | how install graphic drivers for this :Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV370 secondary [Sapphire X550 Silent] in wheezy ? |
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| 22:23.11 | sir_mud | aguitel, check https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 22:23.24 | thoonai | jhutchins: but I got a kernel copied to boot without the arch 386 flag |
| 22:23.27 | jhutchins | !ati |
| 22:23.30 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the AMD Catalyst installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 22:25.42 | babilen | sir_mud: Looks as if they are not that easily co-installable (multiarch is still very much WIP) -- I'd take it step but step... what do you need it for? |
| 22:25.42 | aguitel | sir_mud, no way with catalyst 12.6 or 13.1 |
| 22:26.36 | sir_mud | i have a bunch of code that still uses gtk2 |
| 22:26.52 | sir_mud | and is only 32bit |
| 22:27.34 | sir_mud | aguitel, if it's no longer supported by the proprietary driver you're stuck with the open source driver |
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| 22:28.10 | aguitel | sir_mud, only vesa works ,strange radeon freezy my desktop |
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| 22:28.43 | axel_foley | how to install gfortran from testing? |
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| 22:32.35 | thoonai | now boot is still empty :/ |
| 22:32.47 | thoonai | how do I get the kernel and stuff in it? |
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| 22:33.10 | tcope | while running depmod i receive message 'WARNING: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/modules.builtin: No such file or directory' but the file is there |
| 22:33.36 | tcope | also receive one for same path modules.order |
| 22:35.52 | jhutchins | thoonai: Ok, --second-stage is only for foreign installs so not related. |
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| 22:36.16 | thoonai | jhutchins: I'm somehow stuck |
| 22:36.25 | tcope | can these message be ignored or is there some thing need be addressed ? |
| 22:36.44 | jhutchins | thoonai: Set the target up with /sys and /dev and chroot to it, just like fixing grub. |
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| 22:37.16 | jhutchins | thoonai: Then run aptitude install linux-image-386 (or whatever). |
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| 22:37.48 | axel_foley | how to install only one package from jessie? I am using 7.04. I found a bug in gfortran 4.7, which is corrected in 4.8 |
| 22:38.39 | thoonai | jhutchins: I just started it again |
| 22:39.13 | jhutchins | thoonai: Have you considered reading the install guide? |
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| 22:42.01 | thoonai | jhutchins: which one |
| 22:42.03 | thoonai | ? |
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| 22:44.28 | thoonai | linux-image-3.2.0-4-486 should be the one |
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| 22:55.13 | thoonai | I give up for today |
| 22:55.18 | thoonai | goodbye |
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| 23:12.48 | johndoe | is there a way to make apt ignore dependency issues? |
| 23:13.09 | johndoe | for a certain program (skype) |
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| 23:13.44 | mns | I believe there is a -f option, or something which does a force. |
| 23:13.52 | themill | no, -f is for fix |
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| 23:14.06 | themill | johndoe: perhaps you could put the relevant apt output in a pastebin |
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| 23:14.35 | neglesaks | use the force |
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| 23:15.41 | johndoe | themill: http://pastebin.com/ka2x20q8 |
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| 23:16.28 | themill | johndoe: and what does "apt-cache policy libasound2-plugins:i386; apt-cache policy" say? |
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| 23:18.07 | johndoe | themill: http://pastebin.com/EaXPecHq |
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| 23:19.49 | themill | johndoe: so what does "apt-get install libasound2-plugins:i386" want to do? |
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| 23:20.48 | johndoe | themill: http://pastebin.com/mgBZRiFU |
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| 23:21.07 | johndoe | themill: might as well give you ssh access :D |
| 23:22.20 | themill | johndoe: you have a hideous mess of a system there. |
| 23:22.31 | Brigo | you could try aptitude install ... |
| 23:22.54 | Su7 | Hi Debian ! |
| 23:23.01 | Su7 | so about systemd... |
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| 23:23.08 | Su7 | no, just kidding ! |
| 23:23.43 | Su7 | I was wondering if Debian (or Python) was actually shuting down a process when it's taking too much resources |
| 23:23.44 | johndoe | themill: i try my best |
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| 23:24.20 | themill | johndoe: you have a mixture of lenny, wheezy and jessie and only seem to have the i386 architecture enabled for jessie and not wheezy. |
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| 23:26.51 | johndoe | themill: amarok = lenny? |
| 23:26.51 | themill | johndoe: If you want to run jessie, then remove all the wheezy lines from your sources.list, remove skype, dist-upgrade and then try installing skype. If you want to run wheezy, then you're probably going to reinstall. |
| 23:27.00 | themill | yes. or perhaps earlier. |
| 23:27.24 | johndoe | thanks |
| 23:27.32 | johndoe | will i be able to keep amarok then? |
| 23:28.13 | themill | at some stage that's going to become impossible; I don't know when that will be |
| 23:28.34 | johndoe | indeed :/ |
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| 23:43.09 | johndoe | themill: what do you think of adding unstable/experimental repos to my jessie install as per http://mozilla.debian.net/ (release version of iceweasel) |
| 23:43.15 | johndoe | bad practice? |
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| 23:43.58 | themill | you need to be very careful with that; it's quite feasible to do |
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| 23:45.33 | solrize | so i'm in a situation where an apt-get upgrade told me to rename /lib/libc-2.13.so and i did so with sudo, but now i can't run anything or login to the box because EVERYTHING tries to dynamically load that module. this is on an openvz vps running the openvz wheezy template. i think 1) some combination of the debian repos and openvz templates are messed up; 2) it would be nice to have a statically linked version of busybox included in the distro, |
| 23:45.34 | solrize | as the home shell for a "rescueroot" account, to deal with situations like this. |
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| 23:46.25 | Nik05 | there is a static busybox |
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| 23:47.24 | Nik05 | and an apt-get upgrade told you to rename libc? :S |
| 23:47.24 | solrize | unfortunately 1) it's not installed; 2) i have no way to run it as root since i'm only logged in as a non-root user, and su and sudo seem to ignore the LD_PRELOAD variable |
| 23:47.43 | Myk267 | I'm using the XMonad WM. I want to find what's setting the default desktop image (swirly Debian logo) so that I may change it. Any hints? |
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| 23:47.48 | solrize | yes it says: |
| 23:47.50 | solrize | A copy of the C library was found in an unexpected directory: |
| 23:47.50 | solrize | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.50 | solrize | It is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation; |
| 23:47.50 | solrize | please remove that copy of the C library or get it out of |
| 23:47.50 | solrize | '/lib/i386-linux-gnu' and try again. |
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| 23:49.12 | abrotman | apt-get told you to rename libc? |
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| 23:50.48 | solrize | abrotman, yeah i just pasted what it said, and got kicked |
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| 23:51.09 | jeffrey3234 | on debian wheezy, if i run "useradd jeffrey" |
| 23:51.23 | solrize | i pasted again to #flood |
| 23:51.24 | jeffrey3234 | then su jeffrey, it gives me a $ sh prompt |
| 23:51.37 | jeffrey3234 | not jeffrey@host:~# |
| 23:51.38 | themill | Myk267: the file itself is probably in desktop-base; the default is defined by the desktop-background alternative |
| 23:52.04 | centrx | jeffrey3234, Use adduser |
| 23:52.09 | themill | jeffrey3234: you probably wanted adduser not useradd; you'll need to copy in the contents of /etc/skel and chown them appropriately |
| 23:52.31 | abrotman | solrize: no, you were cutoff .. you probably wanted to use paste.debian.net |
| 23:52.54 | jeffrey3234 | gah |
| 23:52.57 | jeffrey3234 | thanks |
| 23:53.03 | solrize | abrotman, ok, pasted to http://paste.debian.net/81286/ |
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| 23:59.54 | Nik05 | solrize dont you got more info from apt? |
