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| 00:36.55 | MACscr | how do i reset the root password? when i go into single user mode, it still asks for me for a password. Seems my pxe install didnt set the correct password or something |
| 00:37.12 | MACscr | im using wheezy |
| 00:38.09 | MACscr | ah, nvm |
| 00:38.16 | MACscr | first google result. lol |
| 00:38.33 | MACscr | seems single would have been an easier way to do it |
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| 01:36.38 | sugarpuff1 | i have essentially the same question as this guy over on superuser (asked march 1st, 2013, no answer): https://superuser.com/questions/559455/configuring-exim4-to-use-smart-host-but-retain-local-delivery |
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| 01:37.08 | vasuvi | Is there any way to see which packages were installed from a certain repository? In my case, I want to see how many were installed from Experimental. |
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| 01:37.33 | sugarpuff | i have exim4 setup in smarthost mode, but i want local mail to be sent to the user's mailbox, not to an external email [user]@[host][domain] |
| 01:37.58 | sugarpuff | how to achieve this simple task? |
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| 01:39.07 | sugarpuff | perhaps i should have used the "mail sent by smarthost; no local mail" option in exim4-config? |
| 01:39.35 | sugarpuff | (or does that just make local mail completely not work?) |
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| 01:42.23 | djanos | hum … https://wiki.debian.org/Postfix?action=diff&rev1=38&rev2=39 |
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| 01:46.56 | awfabian | sugarpuff: Have you set up a local delivery method? I have dc_localdelivery='maildir_home' in my /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf file. |
| 01:47.23 | awfabian | This seems to work for me as long as exim thinks it's the final destination. I don't recall doing anything very special. |
| 01:47.37 | sugarpuff | awfabian: yes, i have that there |
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| 01:47.53 | awfabian | sugarpuff: What happens if you try to email user@localhost? |
| 01:47.53 | sugarpuff | btw, i have exim4 setup to have its configuration split across a bunch of files |
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| 01:48.57 | sugarpuff | awfabian: well, this returns with no error, but www didn't get any mail: # echo "foo" | mail www@localhost |
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| 01:50.02 | sugarpuff | awfabian: looking at the log it was sent out via smarthost |
| 01:50.11 | awfabian | hmm. |
| 01:50.11 | sugarpuff | and that's the problem |
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| 01:52.36 | awfabian | I have "mail sent by smarthost; received via SMTP or fetchmail"... maybe that did some more configuration for being able to receive local mail. |
| 01:53.10 | sugarpuff | awfabian: pretty sure that's what i have too. are you receiving email on that machine too? |
| 01:53.36 | awfabian | if I specify @localhost, yes. I looked at the headers, it didn't go through my smarthost. |
| 01:54.11 | awfabian | did you specify destinations for which mail is accepted? I have my domain in there. localhost worked, but I didn't specify it. |
| 01:54.11 | sugarpuff | awfabian: you sure? what does tail -f /var/log/exim4/mainlog say when you do it? |
| 01:54.19 | sugarpuff | does it show it being sent to the smarthost? |
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| 01:55.51 | awfabian | 2014-02-24 19:55:22 1WI7Ew-0001ns-No <= root@awfabian.com U=root P=local S=313 |
| 01:55.51 | awfabian | root@mail:/etc/exim4# 2014-02-24 19:55:22 1WI7Ew-0001ns-No => awfabian <awfabian@localhost> R=local_user T=maildir_home |
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| 01:56.21 | sugarpuff | hmm :-\ |
| 01:56.27 | sugarpuff | k, well, at least it's possible |
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| 01:57.46 | sugarpuff | yeah i def. chose the same config as you |
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| 01:58.33 | awfabian | hm. maybe your machine's FQDN doesn't match the domains you specify that you receive mail for? |
| 01:59.11 | awfabian | heh. mine .. doesn't seem to. hmm. |
| 01:59.37 | sugarpuff | wait.... |
| 01:59.44 | sugarpuff | mailing another user worked |
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| 01:59.50 | awfabian | ./update-exim4.conf.conf:hostname=mail.awfabian.com |
| 02:00.10 | awfabian | Do you have that? your hostname set, AND exim set to accept local delivery for whatever the domain on the hostname is? |
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| 02:00.48 | sugarpuff | awfabian: wait… how do i check that |
| 02:00.56 | sugarpuff | which variable is that? |
| 02:00.58 | sugarpuff | dc_ ? |
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| 02:02.23 | awfabian | that's the whole thing |
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| 02:02.41 | awfabian | hostname= . No dc. I have some dc_ ones set around it. Line in update-exim4.conf.conf looks just like that. |
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| 02:03.20 | sugarpuff | awfabian: ok, i don't have hostname= in there at all |
| 02:03.46 | awfabian | I think I had to put that one in, not prompted for in dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 02:04.28 | sugarpuff | awfabian: so, here's my setup (kind wonky atm cause i'm moving hosts): site.com is hosted on this server with the exim4 business |
| 02:04.41 | sugarpuff | the smarthost is mail.site.com, and that's a different server |
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| 02:05.13 | sugarpuff | eventually this machine will also handle receiving and sending email (guess that would make it an "internet site" |
| 02:05.17 | awfabian | hm. |
| 02:05.17 | sugarpuff | ) |
| 02:05.47 | sugarpuff | part of the mystery i've solved: www is aliased in /etc/email-aliases to a real email address |
| 02:06.39 | sugarpuff | so sending mail to www@localhost gets email send out of the server, but … i have no idea what happens to that after (cause i didn't get an email at that real address either) |
| 02:06.58 | sugarpuff | sending email to anotheruser@localhost gets it routed just like you did, via T=maildir_home |
| 02:07.07 | sugarpuff | (cause that user isn't aliased, i think) |
| 02:07.18 | sugarpuff | but when I ran the "mail" command, it says "no mail" |
| 02:07.23 | sugarpuff | (from that user's account) |
| 02:07.23 | awfabian | heh. |
| 02:07.30 | sugarpuff | so that email basically disappeared |
| 02:07.40 | sugarpuff | both actually.. |
| 02:07.52 | awfabian | mail is probably looking in /var/mail/anotheruser |
| 02:08.10 | sugarpuff | i tried mutt too, but it also didn't show mail |
| 02:08.21 | awfabian | won't find mail delivered to maildir if you have dc_localdelivery='maildir_home' |
| 02:09.02 | sugarpuff | awfabian: you're right |
| 02:09.16 | awfabian | mutt won't do it either, unless you configure it for maildir |
| 02:09.16 | awfabian | https://gist.github.com/adam5637/9201330 |
| 02:09.18 | sugarpuff | there it is in ~/Maildir/new/124234432e.... |
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| 02:10.13 | sugarpuff | thanks. how do i get the mail command to check for mail? i really like how it used to tell me i have mail when i logged in |
| 02:10.31 | sugarpuff | i figure that's what bash is using |
| 02:11.09 | awfabian | I don't know. You could deliver it in mbox format to the standard location. "mail" is from the mailx package.. bsd-mailx, I think... it's old. |
| 02:11.26 | sugarpuff | awfabian: oh, well maybe it's something else that's doing that |
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| 02:12.18 | sugarpuff | on your system, don't you like it when it tells you if you have mail or not upon logging in? |
| 02:12.50 | awfabian | I don't usually log in. I actually had to check if local delivery works. I have it send even cronjob emails out. ;) |
| 02:13.17 | sugarpuff | that's what mine has been doing, and it was driving me nuts! |
| 02:13.21 | awfabian | You could probably script it in your .bash_profile pretty easily. Check i there are files in ~/Maildir/new |
| 02:13.26 | sugarpuff | (sending cron jobs out) |
| 02:14.05 | awfabian | sugarpuff: Heh. You'll probably need MAILTO=user@localhost in your crontab. I think it'll go out via smarthost without the @localhost. |
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| 02:15.03 | jarlopez | Hi peeps. I managed to somehow cause my xorg to keep restarting itself after accidentally pasting in the source code of a webpage into terminal (as me, not root) |
| 02:15.05 | sugarpuff | awfabian: thanks, i'll give that a try |
| 02:15.46 | ab64cm | jarlopez, html? |
| 02:16.00 | jarlopez | ab64cm: Yeah. It tried parsing it line-by-line |
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| 02:16.24 | ab64cm | jarlopez, like at the shell prompt or in a text editor? |
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| 02:16.50 | jarlopez | Shell prompt. When I startx the windows keep flashing, presumably because xorg is continously restarting itself |
| 02:17.22 | jarlopez | ~/.xsession-errors is full of "error 3 (BadWindow)" requests :-\ |
| 02:17.22 | apt | ...but /.xsession-errors is already something else... |
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| 02:17.31 | ab64cm | jarlopez, why did you paste html into your shell prompt? |
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| 02:17.51 | awfabian | sugarpuff: Looks like the "You've got new mail" thing is a shell (bash) function, looks at the MAILCHECK environment variable. I think most old-school utilities use the simple-minded logic of checking whether /var/spool/username has non-zero size.... really, if you put a check for >0 files in ~/Maildir/new in your bash profile and echo a message, it seems like exactly the same effect, unless I'm missing something. |
| 02:18.01 | jarlopez | ab64cm: I said accidentally :-p |
| 02:18.38 | jarlopez | If anyone could help me solve this, I'd be eternally grateful |
| 02:18.51 | ab64cm | jarlopez, that's a strange problem because the shell should have just returned command not found. what did it do when you entered that in? |
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| 02:19.45 | jarlopez | It becan parsing is line-by-line. Once I ctrl+c'd and tried to run 'top,' top complained that there were too many processes |
| 02:20.47 | jarlopez | Then I started getting 'too many pipes' errors in the console |
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| 02:22.56 | fandi | hi |
| 02:23.22 | fandi | why when i try to login debian user.. path will be to /root |
| 02:23.29 | ab64cm | jarlopez, you rebooted, right? |
| 02:23.40 | fandi | user@(none):/root |
| 02:23.59 | jarlopez | ab64cm: Yeah |
| 02:24.07 | fandi | user@(none):/root$ |
| 02:24.36 | fandi | my /etc/passwd value is /home/user |
| 02:26.41 | BugBite | :/home/user:/bin/bash |
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| 02:30.41 | jarlopez | ab64cm: A little update: ~/.xsession-errors is growing tremendously due to the BadWindow errors. Currently it's 2.1GB |
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| 02:33.15 | jarlopez | ab64cm: Huh. The problem disappeared when I deleted it :s I'm not really sure what caused it to be spammed in the first place |
| 02:34.05 | ab64cm | jarlopez, just check that it isn't created again |
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| 02:35.28 | jarlopez | ab64cm: Well, it was re-created. Though now it's not being spammed with BadWindow requests. Now it contains more tame warnings, and is ~900 bytes long |
| 02:35.56 | jarlopez | I think I need to throw in a startup script that deletes the file... |
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| 02:36.34 | ab64cm | jarlopez, well there's nothing wrong with having that file for errors to be reported to, but if there's some process going on you need to find and kill it |
| 02:39.01 | jarlopez | ab64cm: I hear ya. Thanks for the help |
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| 02:39.32 | ab64cm | jarlopez, you're welcome |
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| 02:48.47 | nakedfrog | when I do apt-get install [package], apt shows "unpacking [package] (from ../path/package.deb)". it's a 200+MB file. was it downloaded before and saved, if yes how can I remove it? |
| 02:48.57 | mdel | Smallest option to install gnome is gnome-core in tasksel correct? |
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| 02:50.46 | BugBite | /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 02:52.44 | BugBite | nakedfrog: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/yourpackage.deb |
| 02:53.21 | nakedfrog | BugBite: thanks |
| 02:53.37 | BugBite | \o/ Welcome |
| 02:54.15 | nakedfrog | \o/ |
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| 03:00.10 | BugBite | nakedfrog: try - $whereis mypackage.deb or $ whereis myfile ;) |
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| 03:05.06 | BugBite | bit wrong with whereis --help |
| 03:06.48 | mdel | Installing gnome-core with tasksel does nothing it seema |
| 03:06.51 | mdel | Seems |
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| 03:07.31 | BugBite | I think gnome is the smallest. |
| 03:07.41 | BugBite | just 'gnome' |
| 03:08.02 | centrx | Where does tasksel have an option for "gnome-core" ? |
| 03:08.18 | dvs | I don't think it does. |
| 03:08.34 | mdel | yeah its a package actually, my bad |
| 03:09.41 | mdel | I'm going off here: https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 03:10.03 | viscera | didn't gnome-core go away? |
| 03:10.31 | mdel | its here :) |
| 03:10.40 | rjsalts | viscera: http://packages.debian.org/gnome-core says no |
| 03:10.52 | mdel | half the size of gnome package |
| 03:11.02 | viscera | hmm, brainfart :) |
| 03:11.11 | mdel | oddly enough it includes apache2-bin as a dep #derp |
| 03:11.27 | viscera | maybe it's a recommends |
| 03:11.29 | jrock20041 | tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install |
| 03:11.29 | viscera | ? |
| 03:11.56 | mdel | suggested viscera |
| 03:12.10 | viscera | that's fine, then |
| 03:12.13 | mdel | jrock20041: I don't want all the apps, I'll pick what I want later |
| 03:12.26 | viscera | suggested doesn't even get pulled-in by default |
| 03:12.33 | mdel | viscera: just apache2-bin though... strange |
| 03:12.33 | rjsalts | mdel: gnome-core has apache2-bin as a dep? where do you get that from? |
| 03:12.44 | jrock20041 | ah then taskel is not what you need |
| 03:12.54 | mdel | rjsalts: my shell :) |
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| 03:14.25 | rjsalts | mdel: apt-cache show gnome-core | grep -i apache2 shows nothing for me |
| 03:14.44 | mdel | I'm on testing |
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| 03:15.43 | mdel | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.52 | rjsalts | mdel: I'm on unstable ;) |
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| 03:16.01 | mdel | but then again, so is 'gnome' |
| 03:16.37 | mdel | gnome u so cray <3 |
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| 03:17.57 | mdel | maybe it's for help docs or something |
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| 03:20.50 | linux-fox | hi,guys |
| 03:20.55 | ske14 | hi |
| 03:23.30 | pav5088 | Hi... if I want to create a repo from a CD set how would I do this? |
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| 03:26.16 | M4dH4TT3r | wow just caught a giant wolf spider |
| 03:27.16 | M4dH4TT3r | hello, My problem seems simple but I dont know the command to solve it I was using LXDE and then installed GNOME I removed all the GNOME packages I do not want and set it to use lightdm and removed the other dm then rebooted and had gnome running beautifully I then did some other unrelated tasks for a raid array and rebooted only to have lxdm and all its garbage back. How do i get rid of lxdm and go back to the gnome environment i was in? |
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| 03:28.59 | pav5088 | M4dH4TT3r, obligatory (when talking about wolf spiders) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRV4d9LCawU |
| 03:30.19 | pav5088 | You need to change your default WM... I've done this, but I I cannot for the life of me remember how |
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| 03:30.55 | pav5088 | /etc/X11/default-display-manager perhaps |
| 03:31.41 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah thats about how bog this spider is caught him in a similar container |
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| 03:34.28 | JordanJ2 | Could someone tell me what a normal souces.list looks like for Debian 7? |
| 03:34.50 | JordanJ2 | Seems apt-get cannot find anything |
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| 03:35.30 | dvs | !tell JordanJ2 about wheezy sources.list |
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| 03:35.46 | JordanJ2 | Hm? |
| 03:36.05 | JordanJ2 | debhelper, sources.list |
| 03:36.07 | dvs | ...and dpkg said...? |
| 03:36.15 | JordanJ2 | Ohh |
| 03:36.18 | JordanJ2 | Thank you |
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| 03:36.54 | M4dH4TT3r | pav5088 thing is I had gnome using the lightdm disp man |
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| 03:43.51 | awfabian | !tell awfabian about wheezy sources.list |
| 03:44.13 | dvs | !tell awfabian about self tell |
| 03:44.31 | awfabian | heh. thanks. |
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| 04:05.35 | JordanJ2 | Would Debian be more suitable then Ubuntu on a 126MB VPS? |
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| 04:05.56 | sugarpuff | JordanJ2: yes |
| 04:06.09 | JordanJ2 | Could you tell me why? |
| 04:06.27 | sugarpuff | JordanJ2: less ram |
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| 04:06.39 | JordanJ2 | Oh okay. |
| 04:06.46 | sugarpuff | make sure not to install any graphical stuff |
| 04:06.56 | sugarpuff | like, avoid installing X if you don't need it |
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| 04:11.10 | centrx | Ubuntu would choke with only 126MB of RAM |
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| 04:29.54 | JordanJ2 | If anyone can help me, not a major issue but vim is not highlighting any html files |
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| 04:31.18 | centrx | JordanJ2, syntax on |
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| 04:34.02 | AlsoDirkson | Hey all. lsmod returns this line: "snd_hda_codec_hdmi 35722 1 ". This confuses me. It has 1 module depending on it... But that module is not named. What gives? |
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| 04:36.09 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: it may also mean that something has open a file which that module provides, iirc. |
| 04:36.39 | JordanJ2 | centrx, How do I set that? |
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| 04:37.04 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: basically, unless that number is 0, you can't unload the module, IIRC. |
| 04:37.13 | AlsoDirkson | dondelelcaro: Interesting! I can use fuser to find out what has that file open, aye? But how can I figure out which file it's providing? |
| 04:38.05 | centrx | JordanJ2, You can set it in your .vimrc |
| 04:38.11 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: I would expect that it's something in /dev/snd |
| 04:38.18 | centrx | JordanJ2, You can also set it for the current session in command mode |
| 04:38.23 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: most likely pulseaudio or something else |
| 04:38.29 | NoirX | try lsof |
| 04:38.38 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: but I have to admit that I'm sort of guessing; that's really the only thing that makes sense to me |
| 04:38.51 | dondelelcaro | rarely bothers to unload modules |
| 04:39.22 | AlsoDirkson | dondelelcaro: *considers* You know, despite the fact that I've blacklisted pulseaudio, uninstalled it and its demonic spawn numerous times, and basically just been hyper vigillant against it coming on your system... Despite all that, I sort of suspect it's pulseaudio anyway. It just seems like the sort of problem pulseaudio would create. |
| 04:39.54 | AlsoDirkson | dondelelcaro: Fuser insists that nothing in /dev/snd/* is being used by any process. |
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| 04:42.04 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: what's the actual problem that you're having? |
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| 04:42.08 | thick_mcrunfast | How come I have a bunch of dependencies that are still installed, despite nobody depending on them? I'm using aptitude |
| 04:42.15 | no0p | is there a goto doc for beginner's at packaging? |
| 04:42.24 | no0p | I just read the into |
| 04:42.27 | thick_mcrunfast | Example, kate-data |
| 04:42.28 | no0p | intro, and looking for next steps |
| 04:42.31 | isosceles | Hey channel, quick newb question -- would be most helpful. I just installed fdisk, now I want to run it. Where is it in my file system? I simnply want to run it |
| 04:42.40 | AlsoDirkson | dondelelcaro: Sometimes the hdmi audio just stops. Rebooting fixes it, but I'm getting pretty tired of rebooting every couple of days. |
| 04:42.44 | dondelelcaro | no0p: the nm guide is the first thing to look |
| 04:42.45 | thick_mcrunfast | no0p: There's the new maintainers guide |
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| 04:42.51 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: ah, got it |
| 04:43.07 | stew | thick_mcrunfast: what does "aptitude why kate-data" say? |
| 04:43.14 | mdel | hm, having some weird graphics issues with latest intel drivers on jessie :/ |
| 04:43.21 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: you could probably rmmod -f it |
| 04:43.21 | no0p | thanks! |
| 04:43.35 | smith_ | hi ia musing debian 7 .I want to do manual partition by my own.I even use Manual but it move me on Guided partition |
| 04:43.37 | thick_mcrunfast | stew: A big list of uninstalled packages, the next installed package is wicd |
| 04:43.38 | AlsoDirkson | dondelelcaro: Restarting init.d/alsa-utils doesn't help, neither does restarting X, or fuddling about with the nvidia-settings panel. I can't make the hdmi module load/unload, because it's "in use", even with the -f option. |
| 04:43.58 | dondelelcaro | isosceles: /usr/sbin/fdisk; dpkg -L fdisk; will tell you what a package installed for future reference |
| 04:44.13 | thick_mcrunfast | stew: I've got hundreds of installed packages, but they are all markauto |
| 04:44.25 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: bummer; sorry I don't have anything more useful to say |
| 04:44.26 | isosceles | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 04:44.30 | stew | thick_mcrunfast: can you show us at paste.debian.net or similar? |
| 04:44.32 | smith_ | please help me that how can i make my own swap partition.Debian give me template to use that partition scheme |
| 04:45.19 | AlsoDirkson | dondelelcaro: Oh, no problem at all. At the very least, you thought of the same fixes I did, so I'm not crazy : ) |
| 04:45.27 | thick_mcrunfast | stew: This happens fairly frequently, so yes; I just realized that kate-data was 'id', so it is being removed via a simple `aptitude install' |
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| 04:46.47 | stew | thick_mcrunfast: ok, then if not kate-data, what is one that should be removed that isn't being removed? |
| 04:46.54 | AlsoDirkson | dondelelcaro: Apologies if I come off a little short today - Having a really bad day, and I'm not sure I'm succeeding in not taking it out on everyone around me. I do appreciate the help. |
| 04:47.16 | thick_mcrunfast | stew: It's still running, give me half a sec |
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| 04:47.54 | dondelelcaro | AlsoDirkson: nah, you're fine |
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| 04:52.04 | smith_ | How can can search samba files in Debian. In centos i use command # rpm -qa | grep samba but what should be teh command in Debian ? |
| 04:52.50 | Waster | dpkg -l | grep <package> in installed packages |
| 04:52.51 | dpkg | ii | grep <package> in installed packages 2.2-1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 04:53.02 | Waster | apt-cache search in available packages |
| 04:55.31 | thick_mcrunfast | stew: It seems like it might be pebkac, but I've had real issues with this in the past. Can't replicate it here, I didn't notice it was already marked deinstall. |
| 04:55.39 | mdel | several weird issues it seems... another one: if I disconnect ethernet, and reconnect, it stops working |
| 04:55.52 | thick_mcrunfast | stew: Thanks :) |
| 04:55.58 | stew | thick_mcrunfast: :) |
| 04:56.28 | stew | Waster: note that dpkg -l will list packages which were once installed but are no longer installed |
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| 05:02.31 | Waster | stew, agree, dpkg -l | grep <package> | grep ^ii 8) |
| 05:03.24 | stew | that misses installed files on hold :) |
| 05:03.32 | stew | s/files/packages/ |
| 05:03.41 | stew | or installed files marked for removal |
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| 05:07.07 | smith_ | Thanks "Waster" i use teh command dpkg -l | grep samba and it show me |
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| 05:07.14 | smith_ | samba |
| 05:07.18 | smith_ | samba-common |
| 05:07.35 | JordanJ2 | centrx, Where is that located? |
| 05:08.03 | centrx | JordanJ2, You can create .vimrc in your home directory |
| 05:08.30 | JordanJ2 | What would I put into it? |
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| 05:11.20 | smith_ | samba-common |
| 05:11.29 | smith_ | samba-common-bin |
| 05:11.32 | smith_ | samba-doc |
| 05:11.49 | smith_ | i can not see samba-client |
| 05:12.09 | smith_ | it means samba package is not fully installed ? |
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| 05:13.57 | smith_ | Thanks "Waster" i use teh command dpkg -l | grep samba and it show me |
| 05:13.59 | centrx | JordanJ2, The line "syntax on" |
| 05:14.05 | smith_ | samba-common |
| 05:14.24 | smith_ | sorry |
| 05:14.27 | smith_ | it shows me |
| 05:14.30 | smith_ | samba |
| 05:14.32 | Waster | smith_, np..8) |
| 05:14.32 | smith_ | samba-common |
| 05:14.42 | smith_ | ok ok sorry |
| 05:14.50 | smith_ | please take your time |
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| 05:21.48 | no0p | what keywords should I search for regarding printing out info when installing a .deb you package? |
| 05:22.32 | blarghlarghl | Hey all. I have bash set as root's and my user's shell, but when I run sudo -s, I get /bin/sh (because SUDO_COMMAND is /bin/sh). Where am I meant to set SUDO_COMMAND to /bin/bash? |
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| 05:24.24 | drewery | nginx vs apache I am still debating |
| 05:24.40 | buu | drewery: use apache; done |
| 05:25.09 | drewery | I am actually used to apache |
| 05:25.20 | drewery | I am wondering how nginx excels vs apache |
| 05:25.26 | mdel | nginx++++ |
| 05:25.30 | dondelelcaro | drewery: in general, it's slightly faster |
| 05:25.45 | dondelelcaro | drewery: but nowadays, you pretty much want something like varnish or similar in front of apache or ngix anyway |
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| 05:25.47 | mdel | faster at serving static files, much better as a proxy |
| 05:25.49 | buu | drewery: Unless you're running a cdn serving gbps of traffic it hardly matters |
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| 05:26.25 | buu | Apache is very, very fast, old, reliable, well understood, super configurable, etc. |
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| 05:27.24 | mdel | i personally find nginx config to be more reasonable to work with |
| 05:27.46 | drewery | from my understanding nginx actually excels at right implementations like VPS environment etc.. |
| 05:28.11 | abrotman | vs left? |
| 05:28.20 | drewery | :) |
| 05:28.50 | mdel | of course, it depends what you are doing with it |
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| 05:30.37 | drewery | nothing complicated, I just got this fresh debian installation done |
| 05:31.04 | drewery | so I am just browsing the internet and trying to see if I should go with classic apache installation or try nginx |
| 05:31.12 | drewery | is very picky sometimes |
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| 05:53.21 | babinlonston | Is it possible to change my /usr files to /sda5 or to any other partition to get work ? |
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| 05:56.21 | abrotman | to get work / |
| 05:56.23 | abrotman | ? |
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| 05:58.21 | babinlonston | yes /usr |
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| 06:00.00 | wols | yes you can put any directory onto any partition you want |
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| 06:01.03 | babinlonston | Will other Programs and executions will get work if i change the location |
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| 06:09.00 | wols | babinlonston: it will not matter where it is. linux is flexible that way. but why would you want a separate /usr partition? |
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| 06:11.14 | babinlonston | wols: need to move it to sda5 and i want to use it for some datas |
| 06:11.33 | wols | that didn't answer the question. WHY? |
| 06:11.51 | wols | and /usr has no data. only /home/ and /var/ does |
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| 06:14.37 | HSaka | Are there any linux programs that are able to monitor my local network to internett? |
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| 06:15.13 | SirLagz | HSaka: ping ? |
| 06:15.18 | HSaka | hmm nope |
| 06:15.27 | wols | monitor how? |
| 06:16.13 | HSaka | sec, I'm trying to find a picture |
| 06:17.30 | HSaka | Something like this? http://www.hecticgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/live-traffic-diagram.png |
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| 06:19.07 | HSaka | or something like this: http://www.genlogic.com/vector_map2_full.jpg ? I'm wanna learn and see how the connection goes. Like from my all the sites i'm visiting and playing games to dns server etc... |
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| 06:20.13 | wols | iptraf will do it. not graphical however |
| 06:20.53 | HSaka | wols, thank you. But I'm looking for more graphical |
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| 06:26.23 | neo1691 | If I start my urxvt terminal like this, urxvt -name Terminal -fn "xft:Monospace:pixelsize=11" -fade 20 +sb -depth 32 -fg white -bg rgba:2000/2000/2000/dddd I get a transparent terminal. But when I put it in .Xresources, it wont work? |
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| 06:39.22 | zykotick9 | neo1691: i use .Xdefaults-$HOSTNAME to config my urxvt |
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| 06:46.24 | jeredepp | hello everyone, i got a home partition mounted on a iscsi drive, now the last time i rebooted that server, i noticed that it wouldn't come up because the iscsi wasn't connected, and to make things worse i ultimately locked myself out of the server |
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| 06:50.22 | bullgard4 | jeredepp: Try to see if you can access the remote server using another communication program, for example nmap. |
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| 06:50.54 | phix | nmap <3 |
| 06:51.17 | phix | Matrix marathon last weekend, Trinity uses nmap so it must be good :) |
| 06:51.56 | wols | bullgard4: how do you access a server with nmap? a port scanner is not an "access program" |
| 06:52.07 | phix | wols: It accesses ports :) |
| 06:52.09 | phix | it opens them |
| 06:52.16 | phix | if you need something more complex perhaps netcat? |
| 06:52.21 | wols | and does nothing to connect, except maybe finger print |
| 06:52.32 | phix | it makes a connection if you tell it to |
| 06:52.54 | wols | a useless one. one needs a shell. and unless you find an exploit this means ssh or (yuck) telnet |
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| 06:55.24 | jeredepp | bullgard4: yeah i found a backup account i located on the physical /home partition, after a night of coffee and drugs, but my question is more, is that just a bad practice or is there a way to make this actually work? |
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| 06:57.07 | jeredepp | because the problem is that the server hangs on startup if the iscsi drive isn't connected, because it can't mount it |
| 06:57.42 | smith_ | Waster u r there ? |
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| 07:03.38 | bullgard4 | jeredepp: "[07:57]jeredeppbecause the problem is that the server hangs on startup if the iscsi drive isn't connected, because it can't mount it" <- I would try to ssh to that server machine and analyze why it does not mount the drive. |
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| 07:47.28 | aborrero | hi there |
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| 07:54.29 | eristisk | When I insert an SDXC card in my reader, I get no notification from KDE about it at first. |
| 07:54.59 | eristisk | I have to run ´fdisk -l /dev/sdc´ when sdc is the SDXC card and it then pops up the GUI option to mount, etc. |
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| 08:48.12 | netsrot | Hi, debian testing seems to be blocking gamepad access for steam. Will this be changed? I was reading the post from iago in http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/864959809809029907/ |
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| 08:50.37 | pasuteisu | my environment dont happen like it issue... |
| 08:51.02 | pasuteisu | (i using sid) |
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| 09:07.17 | neo1691 | tput setaf won't output anything on my prompt, and there is no color! |
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| 09:11.48 | sleenk | what is it suppose to do? |
| 09:12.11 | sleenk | nevermind |
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| 09:15.54 | sleenk | neo1691: what is TERM set to? |
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| 09:17.27 | neo1691 | rxvt-unicode-256color sleenk |
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| 09:17.34 | romol | hi all |
| 09:17.54 | neo1691 | also ~/.bashrc.rc checks for xterm |
| 09:17.55 | sleenk | what are you using for a terminal? |
| 09:18.05 | neo1691 | sleenk: urxvt |
| 09:18.18 | romol | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:19.11 | sleenk | romol: are you trying to find out what is inside of the machine? like what video card you have, so you can find drivers for it in windows? |
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| 09:19.33 | M4dH4TT3r | lmao think i uninstalled a package i shouldnt have lmao |
| 09:20.16 | M4dH4TT3r | prob a font, looking at a black terminal atm but know its taking commands... |
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| 09:21.10 | sleenk | you could try typing: reset |
| 09:21.13 | sleenk | to reset the terminal |
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| 09:21.35 | romol | sleenk: im wondering how i know whether everything that my laptop offers has been detected to its full potential |
| 09:21.54 | M4dH4TT3r | just rebooted a min ago and terminal was the same |
| 09:22.13 | sleenk | romol: oh. i don't have an answer for that, other than to try to boot off a live cd and use each device in the computer |
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| 09:22.57 | M4dH4TT3r | just did sudo-apt-get install gnome-core |
| 09:23.07 | sleenk | what package did you remove anyways? |
| 09:23.15 | M4dH4TT3r | a buttload |
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| 09:23.31 | sleenk | trying to save space? heh |
| 09:23.33 | M4dH4TT3r | mostly crap software thats included with images |
| 09:24.11 | M4dH4TT3r | ie games, manpages, audio/video/ced burning crap |
| 09:24.18 | sleenk | you might be able to reinstall the dependencies of your terminal program |
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| 09:25.04 | M4dH4TT3r | think gnome-core will fix it? |
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| 09:25.18 | sleenk | are you reinstalling gnome-core, or installing it for the first time? |
| 09:25.31 | M4dH4TT3r | reinstalling it |
| 09:25.38 | sleenk | it might. but i'm no expert |
| 09:26.06 | M4dH4TT3r | its running a minimal versin of gnome atm |
| 09:26.18 | M4dH4TT3r | so i figure it will |
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| 09:26.48 | makubi^ | Hi. Is there any possibility to execute scripts - that I am packaging in my debian-package - during postinst? Normally, I would just call it in postinst, but in this case, I don't know where it resides |
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| 09:27.29 | makubi^ | I would just like to split my postinst script into some files so it does not get that big |
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| 09:27.43 | harj0 | M4dH4TT3r, what did you remove before your terminal started acting up? |
| 09:27.59 | M4dH4TT3r | everything i didnt want |
| 09:28.07 | qbking77 | Does X server by default accept network connections? |
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| 09:28.21 | M4dH4TT3r | prob like 100+ pkgs |
| 09:28.31 | sleenk | neo1691: what version of debian are you running? i was trying to recreate the error, but most of my computers are headless |
| 09:29.03 | themill | makubi^: what do you not know during postinst? |
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| 09:29.42 | makubi^ | themill: how to call scripts that are packaged in my deb-package, because I do not have any absolute path to call |
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| 09:30.26 | themill | makubi^: why not? They're in your package. |
| 09:30.35 | makubi^ | themill: I could create another package like "myScripts" and depend on it, but that's not quite nice, because I just need them during installation |
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| 09:31.01 | makubi^ | themill: yeah, so, how would you call a script named ./foo from debian/postinst ? |
| 09:31.04 | themill | (also, dependencies are not necessarily configured when postinst is run. See policy §6.5) |
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| 09:31.15 | Kitt3n_ | Is there a guide for cross-compiling for win32 / win64 from Debian somewhere? |
| 09:31.31 | sAITEks | hi |
| 09:31.35 | makubi^ | themill: ok, so maybe pre-depending, but this is not an option here |
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| 09:32.05 | sleenk | qbking77: i think that X allows local connections by default as long as you are in the access list |
| 09:32.23 | harj0 | M4dH4TT3r, ok, so you didnt use apt-get to remove those "100+ pkgs" |
| 09:32.43 | harj0 | cuz i would say to check your history |
| 09:32.49 | M4dH4TT3r | no synaptic |
| 09:32.56 | sleenk | doesn't debian keep a apt log in /var/log? |
| 09:33.07 | harj0 | ^that too |
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| 09:33.14 | sleenk | /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 09:33.29 | makubi^ | themill: I don't want to install this scripts, because I do only need them during installation, not afterwards. I could install them and remove afterwards, but that does not seem quite good |
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| 09:33.55 | M4dH4TT3r | I woulld be happy to go look at that log but terminal is a bit querky atm |
| 09:34.11 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: do you know how to get to the console? |
| 09:34.18 | sleenk | the gui-less console |
| 09:34.23 | M4dH4TT3r | not a console with a font |
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| 09:34.36 | M4dH4TT3r | ohh not off hand usually exit |
| 09:34.38 | sleenk | you can do: CTRL+ALT+F1, to switch to a console |
| 09:34.45 | sleenk | and usually ALT+F7 or one of those F keys to get back to X |
| 09:35.08 | M4dH4TT3r | I dont think thats going to work over tightvnc |
| 09:35.12 | sleenk | no that won't |
| 09:35.22 | sleenk | what about SSH access? |
| 09:35.32 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah i enabled it |
| 09:36.01 | sleenk | man. my hard drive sounds bad |
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| 09:37.45 | M4dH4TT3r | no no ssh didnt create pass for it yet |
| 09:38.11 | sleenk | you don't have physical access to the machine? |
| 09:38.35 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah but i would rather not go that route |
| 09:38.39 | sAITEk | hi |
| 09:38.48 | sleenk | i'm afraid of suggesting stuff at the risk of you breaking something worse |
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| 09:39.22 | M4dH4TT3r | lmao no worries sleenk |
| 09:39.27 | sleenk | if you have a terminal open on your tightvnc connection, and are root, you can do: passwd <user account> , type your password, hit enter, type it again, hit enter |
| 09:39.29 | sleenk | and it should change it |
| 09:39.36 | M4dH4TT3r | worst comes to worst ill just start over |
| 09:39.37 | qbking77 | sleenk : I want to export DISPLAY from one box to a debian box |
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| 09:40.08 | sleenk | qbking77: you can check to see if port TCP 6000 is open |
| 09:40.18 | M4dH4TT3r | considering doing that now |
| 09:40.24 | sleenk | on the machine running the X server, you might have to do: xhost +inet:<connecting machine's ip> |
| 09:40.35 | M4dH4TT3r | but will wait until term is finished |
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| 09:41.37 | sleenk | your terminal, or your college term? |
| 09:41.55 | qbking77 | 6000 is not open |
| 09:42.05 | qbking77 | but I am running GNOME |
| 09:42.18 | sleenk | you might have to go edit the Xorg configuration on the server to allow tcp |
| 09:42.21 | qbking77 | I believe x is running locally |
| 09:42.22 | sleenk | it use to be default |
| 09:42.36 | qbking77 | ok, how do I do that? |
| 09:42.48 | sleenk | it's a bit out of my depth, but |
| 09:43.03 | sleenk | i would go into /etc/X11, and try to find something that says '-nolisten' (and make backups of the config file before doing so) |
| 09:43.21 | sleenk | /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 09:43.29 | sleenk | and remove -nolisten |
| 09:43.37 | sleenk | then restart your X server |
| 09:43.50 | M4dH4TT3r | if i reboot is it going to wait for term to finish processing apt-get install? |
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| 09:44.00 | sleenk | it depends on how you reboot |
| 09:44.04 | sleenk | but no, i don't think it'll wait |
| 09:44.26 | M4dH4TT3r | r-click desktop restart (seems like its waiting) |
| 09:45.10 | sleenk | i wouldn't do it at risk of breaking things worse |
| 09:45.24 | M4dH4TT3r | to late lmao |
| 09:45.38 | qbking77 | ok changed, do you know command to restart x |
| 09:45.58 | sleenk | qbking77: gnome? maybe: service gdm restart |
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| 09:46.09 | sleenk | but i don't know if that just restarts the login manager only, or if it restarts X too |
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| 09:49.47 | M4dH4TT3r | what is the shutdown command? |
| 09:49.54 | lexibq | shutdown -h now |
| 09:50.15 | lexibq | as root or with sudo, ofc |
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| 09:51.08 | M4dH4TT3r | ohh yeah i guessed the sudo part ;) |
| 09:51.23 | M4dH4TT3r | im just going to remake the image from scratch |
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| 09:51.56 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: what made you decide to try debian? |
| 09:52.09 | M4dH4TT3r | when? |
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| 09:52.38 | sleenk | i mean, why debian? |
| 09:52.47 | M4dH4TT3r | I've been using deb for about 6yrs... |
| 09:52.55 | M4dH4TT3r | give or take |
| 09:52.58 | lexibq | really? |
| 09:53.01 | M4dH4TT3r | yes |
| 09:53.08 | lexibq | how have yo-u been shutting down? |
| 09:53.08 | sleenk | i've always preferred debian over the other distros because of the package manager |
| 09:53.21 | sleenk | through the gui =P |
| 09:53.43 | lexibq | oh. Is gnome3 still the default environment with the install ? |
| 09:54.42 | sleenk | i'm not sure. i don't usually install a GUI |
| 09:54.43 | M4dH4TT3r | dunno I started with backtrack then ubuntu then of course being a windows server engineer i figured try a great linux server distro that would support the command set i already knew |
| 09:54.53 | lexibq | me neither. |
| 09:54.57 | lexibq | I dislike DE's |
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| 09:55.49 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah i dont usually go gui but just didnt feel like connecting over ssh every time |
| 09:55.57 | M4dH4TT3r | or telnet |
| 09:56.03 | sleenk | telnet is a nono |
| 09:56.07 | M4dH4TT3r | ik |
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| 09:56.38 | sleenk | i wish VNC behaved more like windows rdp |
| 09:56.56 | M4dH4TT3r | lol |
| 09:57.06 | M4dH4TT3r | im using tightvnc |
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| 09:57.12 | M4dH4TT3r | its not to shabby |
| 09:57.54 | sleenk | what do you use debian for? |
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| 09:58.34 | M4dH4TT3r | server |
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| 09:58.47 | OpenTokix | ssh -X -C |
| 09:58.48 | OpenTokix | ftw. |
| 09:59.04 | OpenTokix | If you need gui |
| 09:59.04 | OpenTokix | vnc... |
| 09:59.23 | OpenTokix | High performance webservers |
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| 09:59.50 | M4dH4TT3r | bind, postfix, sasl, mdadm, tighvnc, winbind, apache, postgresql |
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| 10:00.03 | qbking77 | sleenk, done and rebooted, not working |
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| 10:00.39 | M4dH4TT3r | also all my routers are nix |
| 10:00.51 | sleenk | qbking77: X isn't working, or the TCP port is not working? |
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| 10:01.08 | qbking77 | current xserverrc looks like this "exec /usr/bin/X tcp "$@"" |
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| 10:01.15 | qbking77 | only tcp not working |
| 10:01.15 | M4dH4TT3r | would like to get a port of zeroshell for one of my routers |
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| 10:01.43 | sleenk | qbking77: i'm sorry, change that to: /usr/bin/X "$@" |
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| 10:01.47 | sleenk | but holdon before you reboot |
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| 10:02.09 | M4dH4TT3r | :( I wish i had my esx back |
| 10:02.15 | sleenk | qbking77: yes that should do it, sorry about that |
| 10:02.21 | sleenk | vmware esx? |
| 10:02.37 | M4dH4TT3r | gotta build another, then could have just used vm image to restore to before issues |
| 10:02.46 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah |
| 10:02.51 | M4dH4TT3r | loves esx |
| 10:03.09 | sleenk | i've used vmware workstation before |
| 10:03.19 | sleenk | been having bad luck w/ it lately |
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| 10:03.44 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: zeroshell, is that like dd-wrt? |
| 10:03.46 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah its ok but i prefer esx+the client connect soft |
| 10:03.58 | M4dH4TT3r | no not ddwrt |
| 10:04.05 | sleenk | one of my friends had an esx server setup in his house, although i think his drives were bad or something |
| 10:04.14 | sleenk | like ddwrt, but not dd-wrt |
| 10:04.39 | M4dH4TT3r | used to have zeroshell running on my esx in a vm its a great router |
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| 10:05.00 | M4dH4TT3r | no dd-wrt is a flash port for routers |
| 10:05.06 | sleenk | i'm trying to wrap my head around this. you run a router inside of your VM, and tell your local machines to connect through it to get somewhere? |
| 10:05.07 | M4dH4TT3r | like open-wrt |
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| 10:05.28 | M4dH4TT3r | but zeroshell has no ports that i know of |
| 10:05.51 | M4dH4TT3r | zeroshell.org |
| 10:05.51 | sleenk | i only meant dd-wrt in the way that it was made for embedded systems |
| 10:06.02 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah so did i |
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| 10:06.09 | M4dH4TT3r | and zeroshell isnnt |
| 10:06.11 | sleenk | i use some old linksys' routers w/ dd-wrt for my switches |
| 10:06.20 | sleenk | but not for my gateway |
| 10:06.33 | qbking77 | sleenk: still not listening to 6000 and not able to connect |
| 10:06.49 | sleenk | qbking77: is X working at least? |
| 10:06.51 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah i use some linksys routers with dd-wrt and open-wrt w/luci for my routers |
| 10:06.58 | qbking77 | yes |
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| 10:07.05 | sleenk | qbking77: are you logged into an account? |
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| 10:07.24 | M4dH4TT3r | why not for your gateway? |
| 10:07.33 | qbking77 | sleenk: yes |
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| 10:07.35 | sleenk | i have an x86 computer for that |
| 10:07.50 | M4dH4TT3r | ohh firewall ehh |
| 10:07.56 | sleenk | qbking77: do you know if your X server is on :0? |
| 10:08.00 | sleenk | among other things |
| 10:08.02 | qbking77 | yes |
| 10:08.23 | M4dH4TT3r | hehe have a cisco pix isa ssd somewhere around here |
| 10:08.43 | qbking77 | when I run "Xorg" command, I get message "Server is already active for display 0" |
| 10:09.03 | M4dH4TT3r | so switch displays? |
| 10:09.05 | sleenk | i found a post with someone saying that doing that in the xserverrc file doesn't make it work |
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| 10:10.12 | sleenk | qbking77: are you rebooting the computer each time you change it, or are you doing the 'service gdm restart'? |
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| 10:11.55 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: right now i'm setting up pxe to let me boot into a live debian cd over the network |
| 10:11.56 | worried | hi i am using Sid, i ran a update and now i can't login into GNOME, something to do with an error related to icons |
| 10:12.06 | worried | is there any way to undo an update> |
| 10:12.09 | worried | ? |
| 10:12.53 | sleenk | worried: do you have an exact error message? |
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| 10:14.15 | worried | sleenk: hi thanks for responding, i am on a borrowed machine at the moment, can ssh into my own machine |
| 10:14.33 | worried | would the error show in apt logs? if so which file should i be looking in? |
| 10:14.48 | qbking77 | I am doing "service gdm3 restart" |
| 10:14.49 | sleenk | you said: "with an error related to icons" |
| 10:15.00 | qbking77 | OK. I got X listening to tcp |
| 10:15.02 | qbking77 | Xorg 4175 root 1w IPv6 11905 0t0 TCP *:x11 (LISTEN) Xorg 4175 root 3u IPv4 11906 0t0 TCP *:x11 (LISTEN) |
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| 10:15.12 | sleenk | qbking77: awesome. what did you do to get it to work? |
| 10:15.27 | qbking77 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:15.35 | qbking77 | DisallowTCP = false |
| 10:15.43 | sleenk | worried: logs are in /var/log, although i don't think a gnome error log is in there |
| 10:16.33 | worried | sleenk: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9206326 |
| 10:16.40 | wols | ~/.xsession-errors are where gnome sends its |
| 10:16.40 | apt | ...but /.xsession-errors is already something else... |
| 10:16.55 | wols | and /var/log/ only has Xorg server console output |
| 10:17.30 | sleenk | worried: did you try typing that command it suggests? |
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| 10:17.40 | worried | yes |
| 10:17.45 | sleenk | what happens? |
| 10:17.50 | qbking77 | sleenk: but Still I am not able to export DISPLAY from other server |
| 10:17.55 | sleenk | wols: ty |
| 10:18.00 | worried | command not found |
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| 10:18.21 | sleenk | qbking77: on the user on your server, you need to do: xhost +inet:<ip_of_client> |
| 10:18.36 | sleenk | then on the other server (the client): export DISPLAY=serverip:0 |
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| 10:19.02 | wols | !xhost |
| 10:19.02 | dpkg | xhost is EVIL! There are so many other ways of getting remote X apps to work that xhost should never be needed. For a more sensible approach, use SSH X11 forwarding, ask me about <sshx>. Also see <mit-magic-cookie>, http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html <nolisten> and "apt-cache show x11-xserver-utils | grep xhost". To run applications on your local machine as another user, see <root x>. See also <xhost +localhost>. |
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| 10:19.31 | sleenk | you're making me feel old |
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| 10:19.59 | M4dH4TT3r | sleenk you want to feel old? |
| 10:19.59 | sleenk | dpkg what about sshx? |
| 10:20.01 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, sleenk |
| 10:20.07 | sleenk | !sshx |
| 10:20.08 | dpkg | You can run X11 apps securely over an ssh connection without <xhost> nor X TCP support. Enable X11Forwarding _on the remote server_ (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. See also <root x>, <cygwin sshx>, <3hosts sshx>. |
| 10:20.42 | M4dH4TT3r | regedit and msconfig |
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| 10:21.17 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: edlin and c:\windows\system32\config\SYSTEM |
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| 10:21.58 | M4dH4TT3r | fdisk |
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| 10:22.56 | sleenk | =( |
| 10:23.17 | M4dH4TT3r | misses his sword box |
| 10:23.39 | M4dH4TT3r | damn phreakers anyways |
| 10:23.44 | worried | sleenk: after the updates finished installing i found the icons on iceweasel were gone, after rebooting the machine (which i shouldn't have done i guess) i can login into GNOME |
| 10:24.02 | M4dH4TT3r | ohhh lmao phrack magazine |
| 10:24.26 | sleenk | worried: you can't login to gnome, you mean? |
| 10:24.47 | sleenk | is sword box some lingo like orange boxing? |
| 10:24.54 | M4dH4TT3r | no |
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| 10:25.16 | worried | yes sir, i can't it says theres been a serious error, and that i should logout and then try loggin in...which is not possible as clicking log out take me to the same error screen |
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| 10:25.40 | sleenk | worried: i'm not really sure what to try. i was trying to find out why you don't have that gdk command |
| 10:25.42 | M4dH4TT3r | ohh yeah like orange box |
| 10:26.01 | sleenk | worried: you could try reinstalling the gnome package if you're desperate enough, but for all i know that might break things worse |
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| 10:26.10 | worried | :( |
| 10:26.30 | M4dH4TT3r | The sword box is just essentially a bud/beige/day-glo box with enhancements and modifications. The structural differences in the sword box make it better however, and thus safer for you to use. |
| 10:26.32 | worried | is there any way to undo an update? |
| 10:26.42 | worried | sorry if it sounds dumb |
| 10:26.56 | sleenk | i don't think you can |
| 10:27.02 | sleenk | you would have to ask someone more experienced |
| 10:27.10 | sleenk | worried: can you try this: |
| 10:27.22 | M4dH4TT3r | sleenk did you IRC back then? |
| 10:27.25 | sleenk | as root: dpkg -S gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders |
| 10:27.30 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: i've been ircing since 1995 |
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| 10:27.49 | M4dH4TT3r | 90 here |
| 10:27.55 | sleenk | i started out with that comic chat program microsoft made |
| 10:28.01 | sleenk | hangs head in shame |
| 10:28.14 | M4dH4TT3r | thats y my nick is so old |
| 10:28.21 | M4dH4TT3r | lol |
| 10:28.24 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: what networks did you frequent? |
| 10:28.30 | babilen_ | dpkg: ot |
| 10:28.31 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 10:28.47 | babilen | (just saying, it is much nicer over there) |
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| 10:28.55 | M4dH4TT3r | fuck if i remember |
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| 10:29.16 | M4dH4TT3r | that was 25 yrs ago... |
| 10:29.23 | worried | sleenk: output is - libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders |
| 10:30.21 | sleenk | worried: at your own risk: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache |
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| 10:30.27 | sleenk | actually |
| 10:30.36 | sleenk | type /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loader |
| 10:30.39 | sleenk | just to see what it does first |
| 10:30.48 | M4dH4TT3r | had to learn to phr34k out of necessity parents were killing me for phone bill... lmao |
| 10:31.07 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: for some reason, my dhcp server just gave me an address that was reserved =/ |
| 10:31.36 | sleenk | i had that problem too, long distance and all |
| 10:31.37 | M4dH4TT3r | hmm have to check out the address range |
| 10:31.48 | sleenk | i removed them from the cache file, hopefully that fixes it |
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| 10:33.37 | worried | sleenk: apt-get install --reinstall libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 fixed it |
| 10:33.38 | M4dH4TT3r | I was in fbks alaska back then, holy the parts you can get at the dump in ak... |
| 10:33.45 | worried | sleenk: thanks :) |
| 10:33.50 | sleenk | worried: awesome |
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| 10:34.12 | M4dH4TT3r | ok dd done |
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| 10:34.18 | worried | maybe someone could make a note somewhere, others using Sid/Jessi could face the same issue |
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| 10:34.34 | sleenk | this is my first time here |
| 10:34.59 | worried | good day all! |
| 10:35.04 | sleenk | gday |
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| 10:36.26 | spyder | how can i build a custom kernel image? |
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| 10:36.42 | wols | !kernel handbook |
| 10:36.42 | dpkg | The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook (http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/) - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source. |
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| 10:37.44 | spyder | dpkg: thank you |
| 10:37.44 | dpkg | spyder: no worries |
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| 10:38.01 | spyder | wols: thank you |
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| 10:40.36 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: it appears that reserving ips within the pool doesn't "reserve" it, but just makes it a preference |
| 10:40.45 | M4dH4TT3r | omg I have3 forgotten where interfaces is... |
| 10:40.54 | sleenk | /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 10:41.03 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah thats why i said check your range |
| 10:41.18 | sleenk | pfsense has a page: Why can't I have static mappings inside my DHCP range |
| 10:41.32 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah for some reason i was looking in /etc/init.d/ |
| 10:41.34 | sleenk | i'm going to have to move my pool or something |
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| 10:43.26 | M4dH4TT3r | if you can do multiple pools you could work around it |
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| 10:43.52 | M4dH4TT3r | or just move the reservation outside of the pool and make changes elsewhere |
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| 10:44.15 | sleenk | most of the reserved ips are outside of the pool, except for phone (voip phone) |
| 10:44.21 | sleenk | so i should be able to just move it |
| 10:44.35 | noselasd | on squeeze amd64, how do I install the 32 bit libpcap0.8 package ? (I have intsalled ia32-libs) |
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| 10:45.26 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: alternatively i suppose i can make leases never expire =P |
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| 10:46.38 | qbking77 | sleenk: Thanks, it worked, Sorry that I forgot to tell you! |
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| 10:47.50 | sleenk | qbking77: you're welcome. if you weren't looking, there is a better way to do it without enabling all that |
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| 10:48.28 | abcd593 | which command is used to send emails using smtp server? |
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| 10:48.58 | OpenTokix | abcd593: and you dont want to reconfigure your mta to use a smarthost? |
| 10:49.07 | qbking77 | sleenk: Please let me know, All I want is to run a Graphical app on a server on my Debian desktop |
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| 10:50.15 | abcd593 | OpenTokix: don't know what is smarthost... I prefer a command like "mail" or something... |
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| 10:50.55 | OpenTokix | abcd593: yes, but mail will use your configured MTA (Mail Transport Agent) and you can configure the default MTA (exim4) to use a smarthost ie. a smtp-server. - with dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
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| 10:52.11 | abcd593 | OpenTokix: I prefer to provide the smtp details from the command line, leaving the configuration as it is... |
| 10:52.37 | sleenk | qbking77: type !sshx if you want to read the other way to do it |
| 10:52.45 | OpenTokix | abcd593: ok, I have never done that - so cant help |
| 10:53.04 | spyder | which package provides mtp support? |
| 10:53.05 | wols | abcd593: telnet then |
| 10:53.27 | abcd593 | telnet? |
| 10:53.38 | abcd593 | I did this before, but forgot which command it was... |
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| 10:57.07 | CyberaX | 100% free shell access on linux debian 300Mbps, 30pid, 100Mo disk, 256Mo Ram on #freeshell, register 100% Auto: /msg [skynet] !register login mail (LIMITED on: CA,RE,FR,US,BE,NL,PM,GF,UK, now RO) |
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| 10:58.13 | sleenk | M4dH4TT3r: you care if i pm you? |
| 10:58.22 | CyberaX | 100% free shell access on linux debian 300Mbps, 30pid, 100Mo disk, 256Mo Ram on #freeshell (psybnc, eggdrop, ircd, ... accepted!), register 100% Auto: /msg [skynet] !register login mail (LIMITED on: CA,RE,FR,US,BE,NL,PM,GF,UK, now RO) |
| 10:59.17 | CyberaX | 100% free shell access on linux debian 300Mbps, 30pid, 100Mo disk, 256Mo Ram on #freeshell (psybnc, eggdrop, ircd, ... accepted!), register 100% Auto: /msg [skynet] !register login mail (LIMITED on: CA,RE,FR,US,BE,NL,PM,GF,UK, now RO) |
| 10:59.26 | spyder | which package provides mtp support? |
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| 11:01.07 | wols | spyder: none very well |
| 11:01.09 | wols | !mtp |
| 11:01.26 | wols | either use the mtp fs from FUSE or go-mtp. neither is in wheezy |
| 11:01.49 | spyder | wols: ok |
| 11:01.57 | dpkg | Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) is a Microsoft protocol for transferring images, music (etc.) between a computer and a portable device. Standardized as a USB device class in 2008. The libmtp shared library provides MTP interoperability for applications including <Amarok>, <Audacious>, <Banshee> and <Rhythmbox>; the MTPfs <FUSE> filesystem provides read/write access (not part of the Debian 7 "Wheezy" release, bug #696552). See also <PTP>. |
| 11:03.12 | ChrisH | spyder: with testing its OK for me. |
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| 11:04.10 | spyder | ChrisH: ok |
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| 11:06.23 | qbking77 | sleenk: ssh -X ? |
| 11:06.32 | qbking77 | sleenk: how does that work? |
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| 11:06.53 | sleenk | qbking77: i don't know. it is what the bot recommends to do instead of xhost because the xhost method is deprecated. |
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| 11:07.10 | sleenk | qbking77: if your xhost setup is already working, i wouldn't break it to try another method right now |
| 11:07.19 | sleenk | !sshx |
| 11:07.19 | dpkg | You can run X11 apps securely over an ssh connection without <xhost> nor X TCP support. Enable X11Forwarding _on the remote server_ (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. See also <root x>, <cygwin sshx>, <3hosts sshx>. |
| 11:07.30 | sleenk | qbking77: sorry i misunderstood what you meant by that |
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| 11:07.58 | M4dH4TT3r | hey sleenk can I pm u? |
| 11:08.12 | sleenk | go for it |
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| 11:09.44 | qbking77 | dpkg: Is xauth readily available on RHEL6 by default? |
| 11:09.45 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, qbking77 |
| 11:10.08 | qbking77 | sleenk: I will try to find how sshx works |
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| 11:10.42 | qbking77 | X11Forwarding has to be enabled on the Client SSH config? |
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| 11:11.01 | bezaban | qbking77: remote server ^ |
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| 11:11.42 | qbking77 | Thanks sleek dpkg and bezaban Will try that |
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| 11:13.51 | ChrisH | spyder: simply plug the device via USB and use any filemanager to move files onto the device... using CLI is no real fun |
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| 11:14.24 | spyder | ChrisH: it is not detecting my device |
| 11:14.30 | lexibq | ChrisH: not for you, maybe |
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| 11:15.29 | ChrisH | lexibq: I prefer and use CLI whereever it is possible, but file transfer via mtptools is PITA |
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| 11:18.06 | lexibq | ah, mtptools |
| 11:18.19 | wols | ChrisH: how would that work with MTP? |
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| 11:22.14 | Lartza | Can there be something inplace on my server that would lock me out for excessive SFTP requests? |
| 11:22.32 | Lartza | Or is it my goddamn VPS provider |
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| 11:23.05 | ChrisH | wols: eg mtp-sendfile |
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| 11:29.47 | spyder | i get this error on connecting my external hdd http://bpaste.net/show/bKQCb40Cugxl2DWXJdGb/ can anyone help me with it? |
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| 11:45.15 | BugBIte | spyder $usermod -a -G fuse username |
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| 11:45.46 | BugBite | or usermod --help |
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| 11:48.19 | BugBite | spyder and you need to be a memeber of group fuse. |
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| 11:49.35 | spyder | BugBite: corrected it was a error due to an entry in fstab during installation |
| 11:50.25 | halt | HI all, I managed to uninstall all kernel acidantly from my but, it's still running but can't install a new kernel due to space issue, i have 115M free space on root... how can i resolve this without losing the box ? |
| 11:50.49 | OpenTokix | halt: apt-get clean |
| 11:50.59 | OpenTokix | halt: will maybe give you space to install a kernel |
| 11:51.20 | halt | OpenTokix: let me try that quickly |
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| 11:51.45 | aborrero | what is the mentors channel? |
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| 11:52.30 | spyder | i am not getting any sound from my laptop. How do i correct it? |
| 11:52.35 | aborrero | what is the name, i mean |
| 11:52.41 | lexibq | spyder: unmute master channel ;) |
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| 11:54.25 | cantoma | hey guys, for some reason in the following pdf the string "fi" is not show in any of my pdf viewers (that is, evince, xpdf, okular) http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~shuchi/papers/clusteringfull.pdf |
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| 11:54.42 | cantoma | i have just tried in windows with acrobat reader and it all seems ok |
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| 11:55.12 | cantoma | do you guys know what it could be the problem? |
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| 11:57.13 | spyder | lexibq: it is umuted then also i am not getting sound |
| 11:58.07 | lexibq | spyder: can you play any sounds with aplay? or is it just an application that has lost sound. |
| 11:58.38 | lexibq | spyder: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav |
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| 12:00.26 | spyder | lexibq: no, no sound with aplay also |
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| 12:01.56 | BugBite | spyder right mouse on sound icon and choose properties, do you see any soundcard ? |
| 12:02.08 | Cyclohexane | Is there any reason why my /tmp would be filled with du_chunk_nnnnnn (n = random number) taking up like 3 GB of space? not sure when they turned up there |
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| 12:03.18 | petemc | Cyclohexane: try googling for "du_chunk_" |
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| 12:04.11 | Cyclohexane | petemc: I did just that and returned nothing of any use |
| 12:04.17 | spyder | BugBite: there is built-in audio analog sterio |
| 12:04.18 | Iridos | Cyclohexane, I'm sure there is a reason :) |
| 12:04.50 | petemc | Cyclohexane: did you use quotes? it clearly shows it as being due to dropbox uploader when i search |
| 12:05.05 | halt | OpenTokix: I need more space ... any suggestion what i could remove ? http://paste.debian.net/plain/83973 |
| 12:05.15 | Iridos | Cyclohexane, you could try to see with fuser what process has one of them open (supposing they are kept open for long enough to see) |
| 12:05.15 | petn-randall | aborrero: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 12:05.32 | aborrero | petn-randall, thanks |
| 12:05.33 | Cyclohexane | petemc: no, found it now lol thanks |
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| 12:06.01 | halt | or maybe extend the the root partion to the mem drive anything what's save the box |
| 12:06.05 | BugBite | spyder in tab hardware you can test the speakers...... |
| 12:06.42 | BugBite | and check all parameters on the tabs. |
| 12:06.49 | BugBite | re-check. |
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| 12:07.19 | Brigo | halt, you can delte one of the two kernels if you dont need, but i think is good to have two kernels intalled. |
| 12:07.49 | spyder | BugBite: ok thanks |
| 12:08.10 | spyder | now sound is working |
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| 12:08.21 | BugBite | spyder \o/ |
| 12:08.24 | halt | Brigo: well it's good to have two but i have none right now |
| 12:08.41 | Brigo | halt, then delete one. |
| 12:09.18 | halt | Brigo: I do not have any installed, none zero, null |
| 12:09.18 | OpenTokix | halt: yeah, the handbook no problem. - you can probably apt-get remove build-essentials to |
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| 12:10.09 | Brigo | build-essentials is a virtual package, will not free space |
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| 12:10.59 | OpenTokix | ahh, yeah - brainfart - sorry |
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| 12:11.42 | halt | OpenTokix: yeah i removed it but that was not on the root |
| 12:11.57 | halt | so that's not saved any space for me |
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| 12:13.26 | osfd | when in a terminal I can launh a software called asco, but I can't remember from where it is launched. how can I trace it ? |
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| 12:13.55 | ksuhku | osfd, "which asco" |
| 12:14.03 | BugBite | osfd &whereis asco |
| 12:14.15 | osfd | :) |
| 12:14.19 | osfd | thank you guys |
| 12:14.37 | ksuhku | !next |
| 12:14.37 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have them stuffed! |
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| 12:35.47 | ChrisH | ,v emacs24 |
| 12:35.48 | judd | Package: emacs24 on i386 -- jessie: 24.3+1-2+b1; sid: 24.3+1-2+b1 |
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| 13:15.52 | aton` | hi |
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| 13:16.02 | aton` | say i want to install php 4.4.9, is that possible without compiling? |
| 13:16.06 | SirLagz | yes |
| 13:16.10 | aton` | how |
| 13:16.13 | SirLagz | use very old repos |
| 13:16.30 | aton` | do you by any chance know some legacy repos? |
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| 13:16.45 | SirLagz | top of my head - I'd check oldstable |
| 13:16.57 | SirLagz | other than that, google. |
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| 13:23.14 | aton` | hm in archive there is 4.4.3 |
| 13:23.21 | aton` | that means perhaps 4.4.9 is in oldstable |
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| 13:24.20 | DelphiWorld | hi guys |
| 13:24.22 | DelphiWorld | quick question |
| 13:24.30 | DelphiWorld | i need some remote assistance from a friend |
| 13:24.39 | DelphiWorld | i want to have vnc for my debian |
| 13:24.50 | DelphiWorld | i use XFCE as a desk, should i install vnc4server or tightvnc? |
| 13:25.45 | KaffeeJunky123 | doesn't XFCE come with a vnc solution installed? |
| 13:26.17 | DelphiWorld | KaffeeJunky123: not sure |
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| 13:26.53 | ksuhku | DelphiWorld, check the dependencies, those might offer some insight |
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| 13:34.17 | themill | DelphiWorld: you probably want x11vnc if you want to share an existing session rather than creating a new virtual desktop |
| 13:34.33 | DelphiWorld | themill: i did xrdp, though? |
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| 13:35.52 | themill | yeah, that can work too |
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| 13:37.53 | overwhelm | hi there, what would be a good package to install to be able to use DHCP on debian? I would like to be a dhcp server (im using debian) and tell my second network card to assign a private ip to any computers connecting to this interface. anyone know how? |
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| 13:41.08 | aitiba | hi |
| 13:41.30 | aitiba | I would like to my bind server responds to two domains |
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| 13:41.48 | overwhelm | sorry I hit the wrong button |
| 13:41.53 | overwhelm | did you say something about my problem? |
| 13:42.00 | ksuhku | no |
| 13:42.09 | ksuhku | @overw |
| 13:42.18 | overwhelm | ok :P |
| 13:42.31 | DelphiWorld | thank to all the helpers |
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| 13:44.10 | zh1 | http://youtu.be/a5TkGplG7yQ oh yea |
| 13:44.13 | aitiba | I was looking for info on the net and I have more or less clear how to do it but one thing is cofusing me: the step of make the master nameserver. As I read I need to add a news ns A zone with my ip and restart bind.ñ ¿is this right? |
| 13:44.27 | KaffeeJunky123 | can someone in here mark https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681374 as fixed in testing/unstable? |
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| 13:45.00 | babilen | zh1: You almost certainly want(ed) a different channel. Please try to refrain from off-topic and/or spam in this channel in the future. |
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| 13:47.48 | KaffeeJunky123 | The bug was fixed ages ago in upstream and needs to be marked as fixed in testing/unstable so that it can possibly be pulled into stable, atleast that's what I've been told in the bug tracker. |
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| 13:49.05 | bezaban | aitiba: if you want a public accessible domain you need to prepare your zonefile with a header, A record and NS records. Then you need to set a glue record via your registrar if you want to be the public authorative nameserver for said domain. #bind can probably provide more details |
| 13:49.28 | nkuttler | KaffeeJunky123: you should probably add to the bug report |
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| 13:50.32 | aitiba | bezaban: the headre is the @ one right? |
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| 13:51.30 | bezaban | aitiba: @, SOA etc |
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| 13:52.28 | bezaban | @ is just a subsitute for the local domain name |
| 13:53.48 | KaffeeJunky123 | nkuttler: I did |
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| 13:54.17 | KaffeeJunky123 | nkuttler: see my last message in the bugtracker https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681374#46 |
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| 13:55.01 | makubi^ | does dpkg-reconfigure call postinst ? |
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| 13:55.59 | makubi^ | the debian policy says that "postinst is call in the following ways: 'postinst configure most-recently-configured-version'" but it does not get called if I dpkg-reconfigure my package or am I missing something? |
| 13:56.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | nkuttler: it's been a while since I tried to get the upstream fix into stable, just came across it now because I cleaned up my development folders |
| 13:56.53 | KaffeeJunky123 | nkuttler: and I thought, why not just ask the debian IRC about it. |
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| 14:07.54 | detha | what is the current status with systemd? packaging guidelines still seem to have a requirement for sysvinit scripts - is that likely to stay there? |
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| 14:11.30 | mavrix | hi |
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| 14:11.57 | mavrix | is there any way to export audio from VPS to a Windows PC? |
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| 14:15.38 | mister_zombie | Hi, I'm trying to get dspam to collaborate with postfix and dovecot using lmtp |
| 14:15.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: yes, but the how depends on what you actually want to acomplish. Do you want to listen to audio files that are located on the VPS? Or do you want a remote desktop session with sound? |
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| 14:15.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: or do you mean something completly different |
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| 14:16.47 | mavrix | I just want the audio without X |
| 14:17.22 | nkuttler | mavrix: what do you mean, export audio? |
| 14:17.36 | mavrix | I'm experimenting with playing video on my putty text terminal |
| 14:17.58 | nkuttler | mavrix: what exactly do you want to do? |
| 14:17.59 | mavrix | I get the video, but no audio of course |
| 14:18.31 | mavrix | so i need to play the video and export audio to my local pc speakers |
| 14:18.35 | nkuttler | mavrix: you ssh into a debian host from windows and want to watch movies.. with something like libaa? |
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| 14:19.00 | mavrix | yes |
| 14:19.07 | mavrix | its libcaca afaik |
| 14:19.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | that's just one strange usecase |
| 14:19.21 | nkuttler | mavrix: no idea. i guess no pulseaudio on windows.. |
| 14:19.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | it would make much more sense to simply make the video file available for streaming |
| 14:19.44 | nkuttler | mavrix: or just make a network drive |
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| 14:20.14 | mavrix | pulseaudio binaries for windows are available |
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| 14:20.35 | mavrix | but i wonder if someone know the steps to make it work |
| 14:20.43 | mister_zombie | basically my setup is postfix -[lmtp socket]-> dspam -[lmtp socket]-> dovecot |
| 14:20.43 | mister_zombie | I'm getting dspam's hostname to show up in my Received: from field in the email's headers, but I get no X-DSPAM headers in the email at all. |
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| 14:23.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: but why would you want audio through ssh? |
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| 14:23.38 | mavrix | KaffeeJunky123: because I don't have enough ram to run x |
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| 14:24.06 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: that doesn't make any sense at all |
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| 14:24.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: are you talking about the vps or your client machine when you say you do not have enough ram for x? |
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| 14:24.46 | mavrix | KaffeeJunky123: its the vps |
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| 14:25.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: if you want to use the vps as a media server you could take a look into rygel, that's definitly better then trying to somehow get sound "through" ssh |
| 14:25.52 | mavrix | so actually i need to stream the audio from virtual soundcard on Windows |
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| 14:27.24 | mavrix | KaffeeJunky123: thank you. i'll search about that |
| 14:28.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: but if you want to do the actual playback locally anways a network share is much simpler |
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| 14:32.37 | mavrix | KaffeeJunky123: what do you mean? is that for streaming? |
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| 14:33.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: it's for UPnP/DLNA |
| 14:34.04 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: all mediaplayer devices that support these standards can access your rygels media |
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| 14:34.46 | KaffeeJunky123 | And the windows media player should support those |
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| 14:35.36 | KaffeeJunky123 | But I cannot tell you if your VPS is capable of doing the transcoding, if it is a very limited machine you should just use a network share and playback the files from there |
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| 14:35.45 | KaffeeJunky123 | that way your VPS only has to transmit the data |
| 14:36.00 | mavrix | KaffeeJunky123: will check. the only problem is a 64mb ram VPS because many things won't work on it |
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| 14:36.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | mavrix: well, then rygel is not a possibility |
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| 14:36.39 | mavrix | hmm |
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| 14:36.58 | theTroy | could someone please explain how to boot into different OS using petitboot please? |
| 14:36.59 | mavrix | that's why I was looking for a way to get audio over SSH |
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| 14:37.25 | hhhhhhhh | is there a way to skip upgrading a package altogether |
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| 14:37.40 | hhhhhhhh | my apt is trying to upgrade initscripts and imploding before letting me do anything else |
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| 14:50.32 | brontosaurusrex | ssh will take some cpu hit on the server, so perhaps thats not the best idea |
| 14:50.59 | brontosaurusrex | now, if you don't want to deal with samfa or nfs, then a simple webserver should do as well |
| 14:51.24 | brontosaurusrex | mplayer http://myserver/myfile.mp4 would run on windows |
| 14:51.39 | brontosaurusrex | mavrix, ^ |
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| 14:52.38 | brontosaurusrex | also there is minidlna server |
| 14:52.41 | mavrix | wow |
| 14:52.50 | brontosaurusrex | which can't do any transcoding at all |
| 14:52.53 | lexibq | python -m SimpleHTTPServer ? |
| 14:52.59 | lexibq | woops |
| 14:53.17 | mavrix | is mplayer available for windows cli? |
| 14:53.29 | brontosaurusrex | mavrix, sure, actually you want mpv |
| 14:54.02 | brontosaurusrex | http://mpv.io/ |
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| 14:55.24 | mavrix | is mpv related with mplayer? |
| 14:55.47 | mavrix | ok i just see..cool |
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| 14:56.02 | stojic | I'm setting up Wheezy on a workstation that I don't have physical control over, so I want to use home dir encryption to stop casual snooping (such as someone booting from live CD). eCryptfs seems perfect for this task, are there better options? |
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| 14:58.02 | zykotick9 | full disk encryption with LUKS would be my "what's better" suggestion... |
| 14:58.46 | stojic | zykotick9: Thanks, I think it might a bit of an overkill for my needs though. |
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| 14:59.30 | zykotick9 | stojic: perhaps, but it's easy to setup encrypted-lvm during install... best of luck (i don't hear great things about /home encryption BTW, YMMV) |
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| 15:00.55 | stojic | zykotick9: I see, I have no experience with home or disk encryption so advice/tips along these lines is what I was looking for. I'll consider the options a bit more. |
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| 15:03.59 | mavrix | cool . that mpv really work |
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| 15:06.00 | ChrisH | stojic: I use LUKS stuff for all my/our Laptops |
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| 15:09.55 | olivier_bK | do you know how i can load automatically my ssh key each time when i opened a shell prompt |
| 15:09.56 | olivier_bK | ? |
| 15:10.29 | DelphiWorld | guys |
| 15:10.38 | DelphiWorld | how do i know if my HDMI support audio output? |
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| 15:11.03 | DelphiWorld | olivier_bK: how do you load it manualy? |
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| 15:11.51 | stojic | ChrisH: I see, I imagine LUKS is also better supported, being in wider use. |
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| 15:13.28 | olivier_bK | DelphiWorld, like that ssh-agent $SHELL |
| 15:13.30 | olivier_bK | ssh-add |
| 15:13.33 | olivier_bK | and my password |
| 15:14.04 | DelphiWorld | olivier_bK: then i dont recomand that, cause it'lle be available on your bash profile and maybe someone will read it |
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| 15:14.19 | DelphiWorld | olivier_bK: maybe you can do it using a script and you compile it, but i'm not that expert on security |
| 15:15.48 | zykotick9 | alternatively, being prompted for a password everytime i opened a terminal, would drive me crazy... very quickly. |
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| 15:22.37 | babilen | olivier_bK: I just run ssh-add when I need specific keys (typically with a timeout, e.g. "-t 28800" for 8h) |
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| 15:28.09 | terrasapien | syslogd is dumping trivial messages into every open terminal instead of logging to /var/log/messages |
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| 15:28.31 | ixela | terrasapien: did you change your config? |
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| 15:28.39 | ixela | terrasapien: have you tried looking for a misconfiguration? |
| 15:28.42 | terrasapien | nope, standard install |
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| 15:28.53 | terrasapien | ixela, that's next |
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| 15:29.41 | ixela | sounds like a bad config really |
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| 15:40.42 | Sbroker | hi from Spain julandrones anglo hablantes |
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| 15:52.58 | babilen | prateek992: #debian-soc |
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| 15:53.57 | babilen | prateek992: The channel (#debian-soc) is on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) not here on Freenode |
| 15:55.03 | usrnix1 | Hi, I'm getting apt errors when installing exim4-daemon-heavy; it's complaining of no update-exim4.conf and failing, how can I tell it to remove it and install normally? I tried -f install, purge, remove, they all tried to configure the broken half-installed version first |
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| 15:55.41 | babilen | dpkg: tell usrnix1 -about bat |
| 15:55.48 | babilen | dpkg: tell usrnix1 about confmiss |
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| 15:56.51 | funyun_ | hi. can anyone help me fix this error. it says "Could not open /dev/vmmon: No such file or directory. Please make sure the kernel module 'vmmon' is loaded" |
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| 15:59.06 | spyder | what is the pakage name of cadsoft eagle? |
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| 15:59.57 | mtn | funyun: what happened after you loaded the module? |
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| 16:00.47 | N34l0 | hi, can someone tell my why sshd on IPv6 doesn't come up after reboot - but after service ssh restart without problems? |
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| 16:02.03 | funyun | mtn: i don't know how to load the module? |
| 16:02.13 | mtn | funyun: man modprobe |
| 16:02.17 | lexibq | funyun: man modprobe |
| 16:02.24 | lexibq | -_- damn inet |
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| 16:03.33 | usrnix1 | babilen: Thanks, that didn't work (dpkg options to reinstall with the noconfig issue), my output is http://paste.debian.net/plainh/9727a971 |
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| 16:04.46 | funyun | mtn: so modprobe -r -v -n -i vmmon? |
| 16:05.32 | mtn | funyun: normally I just go: modprobe vmmon |
| 16:06.32 | funyun | mtn: ERROR: could not insert 'vmmon': Exec format error |
| 16:06.45 | usrnix1 | babilen: Just noticed I left out the long cmd (aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall exim4) but it looked like the same output |
| 16:06.56 | mtn | funyun: you doing this as root? |
| 16:07.05 | funyun | mtn: sudo |
| 16:07.24 | funyun | i'll try root |
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| 16:07.27 | mtn | funyun: not sure what that module needs, so try the other one you came up with |
| 16:08.08 | funyun | mtn: the one i came up with gives no result after i enter it |
| 16:08.16 | spyder | is 64-bit debian no-multilib? |
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| 16:08.25 | mtn | funyun: then it probably worked. |
| 16:08.41 | funyun | mtn: i still get the same error when i try to run vmware |
| 16:08.46 | usrnix1 | spyder: It has multilib, you have to enable other archs |
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| 16:09.03 | mtn | funyun: no idea. sounds like you should go to a vmware channel. they would know more |
| 16:09.09 | spyder | usrnix1: ok how do i enable x86? |
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| 16:09.42 | usrnix1 | spyder: don't remember, simple config line, search it |
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| 16:09.57 | spyder | usrnix1: ok |
| 16:11.35 | funyun | mtn: do i have to reboot for changes to take affect? |
| 16:11.46 | mtn | funyun: no |
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| 16:12.22 | usrnix1 | Can someone help me repair a config-less package that is semi-installed and can't be removed, purged, reconfigured or reinstalled (even with --force-confmiss) |
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| 16:12.27 | funyun | this seems to be a debian/ubuntu problem. vmware doesn't know how to solve it |
| 16:12.47 | funyun | lexibq: do you have any idea? |
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| 16:13.27 | lexibq | what is problem? |
| 16:13.37 | mtn | funyun: have you looked at this?: https://wiki.debian.org/VMware |
| 16:13.47 | lexibq | you modprobe'd as root or with sudo, yes? |
| 16:13.55 | funyun | lexibq: yes |
| 16:14.08 | lexibq | lsmod shows it? |
| 16:14.39 | funyun | lexibq: no |
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| 16:15.39 | lexibq | funyun: what version |
| 16:15.44 | olivier_bK | some one use mydnsconfig ? |
| 16:15.51 | lexibq | have you looked at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=135672&p=2 funyun |
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| 16:21.01 | funyun | lexibq: following that, i try sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/vmware /etc/rc.d/, and get "ln: target `/etc/rc.d/' is not a directory: No such file or directory" |
| 16:21.42 | mtn | funyun: you would be better off following the debian wiki I linked you ;) |
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| 16:22.17 | mtn | oddly enough arch and debian are different :P |
| 16:22.25 | funyun | mtn: tried that also, i can't do ./vmware-config.pl because that doesn't exist |
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| 16:22.47 | mtn | funyun: how about checking in with a vmware channel? |
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| 16:23.13 | funyun | mtn: that was the first thing i tried. they're absolutely no help |
| 16:23.18 | lexibq | yeah check the paths, arch and debian may not be the same. |
| 16:23.30 | mtn | funyun: how about vbox then, much easier it seems like |
| 16:23.58 | funyun | okay. i will give it a shot |
| 16:24.07 | Meliorate | hi all, i've just upgraded from squeeze to wheezy. how do i update everything to use libssl 1.0.0? ...libssl 0.9.8 is still symlinked in the lib paths :s |
| 16:24.33 | abrotman | Meliorate: did you do the full dist-upgrade .. it's likely that's correct .. what's the problem? |
| 16:24.51 | Meliorate | i'm pretty sure i did, but i'll run it again now |
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| 16:25.45 | Meliorate | ok, maybe not, it's doing stuff :o |
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| 16:27.00 | tkd | is there a way to fetch additional kernel modules under the netinst image? in particular i need 9p, which is not in the iso. |
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| 16:43.57 | Meliorate | after doing a dist-upgrade, i still only have libssl 0.9.8 in /usr/lib :s |
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| 16:45.21 | Meliorate | i can see libssl1.0.0 is installed, how should i make it default/active? |
| 16:45.44 | petn-randall | Meliorate: What is the output of "dpkg -l 'libssl*'"? |
| 16:46.06 | petn-randall | → http://paste.debian.net |
| 16:46.41 | Meliorate | http://pastebin.com/P6cxP14S |
| 16:47.45 | petn-randall | !pastebin |
| 16:47.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 16:48.06 | jelly | Meliorate: other libraries moved to a /usr/*/lib/ directory, that includes libssl1.0.0 |
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| 16:48.32 | petn-randall | Oh, wrong trigger. pastebin.com uses javascript, which makes it unusable to see if you're using a CLI browser. |
| 16:48.46 | jelly | Meliorate: there's nothing to update unless you compiled your own binaries against 0.9.8 |
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| 16:48.58 | Meliorate | i don't see it under /usr/lib* |
| 16:49.08 | petn-randall | Meliorate: If you don't need libssl 0.9.8 anymore, you can remove it. 1.0.1e is installed. |
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| 16:49.10 | zykotick9 | petn-randall: while i hate pastebin.com, it does work for me in elinks... |
| 16:49.14 | jelly | Meliorate: what does dpkg --print-architecture say? |
| 16:49.19 | Meliorate | i've always used aptitude/apt-get |
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| 16:50.12 | Meliorate | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/84021/ |
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| 16:50.29 | Meliorate | jelly: amd64 |
| 16:50.47 | jelly | Meliorate: look at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ then |
| 16:51.22 | Meliorate | ah yea |
| 16:52.11 | Meliorate | so i wonder what will happen if i make something which links to libssl |
| 16:52.17 | jelly | Meliorate: and at output of eg. ldd /path/to/command/using/ssl |
| 16:52.46 | jelly | Meliorate: your libssl-dev is current |
| 16:53.09 | Meliorate | going to test build something... |
| 16:53.11 | jelly | amd that's what a build process is going to use |
| 16:53.16 | jelly | and* |
| 16:53.32 | Meliorate | ah, now it's linked to 1.0.0 |
| 16:53.35 | Meliorate | eureka \o/ |
| 16:53.40 | maferv | anybody knows how is the freedesktop menu updated? for instance if I place a '.desktop' file in ~/.local/share/applications it gets found immediately and the menu is updated instantly |
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| 16:58.05 | ksuhku | maferv, you might be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inotify |
| 16:58.15 | ksuhku | dunno if that's used there though |
| 16:59.07 | Meliorate | thanks abrotman & jelly, all my stuff is linking correctly now :) |
| 16:59.17 | Meliorate | & petn-randall |
| 16:59.18 | abrotman | didn't do anything? |
| 16:59.26 | abrotman | does a happy dance anyway |
| 16:59.28 | jelly | !praise abrotman |
| 16:59.28 | dpkg | kneels before abrotman. "abrotman is da bomb!" |
| 16:59.28 | Meliorate | you reminded me to dist-upgrade |
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| 16:59.36 | abrotman | shouldn't need a reminder :) |
| 16:59.41 | Meliorate | true |
| 16:59.48 | abrotman | boards |
| 17:00.07 | jelly | BOMB ON THE BOARD |
| 17:00.20 | jelly | s/THE // |
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| 17:05.02 | mauricio_ | Hello |
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| 17:05.13 | mauricio_ | I'm having a problem with configuring my printer |
| 17:05.47 | mauricio_ | I'm using A4 papersize |
| 17:06.05 | mauricio_ | but the printing is not centered |
| 17:06.32 | mauricio_ | the printer is a RICOH MP2000 and I'm using cups |
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| 17:07.51 | berndj | is there a way i can verify the signatures on the live cd ISOs? they're signed by a key that has no non-self signatures :( |
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| 17:13.46 | spyder | what is the pakage name of cadsoft eagle? |
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| 17:16.48 | BadOgre | spyder: aptitude search eagle |
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| 17:17.32 | ChrisH | might be i386 only |
| 17:17.47 | spyder | BadOgre: it does not list the cadsoft eagle just some lib |
| 17:17.53 | maferv | it is interesting ksuhku, didn't know about this, but there's no reference from freedesktop of any use of inotify |
| 17:18.06 | spyder | ChrisH: it is i386 only, how do i install it on amd64? |
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| 17:19.13 | BadOgre | spyder: i'm in wheezy i686 |
| 17:19.24 | paul_grozav | Hello, what is the best way to install packages on an internet-less debian operating system ? I have another internet connected pc and I can use a stick to move packages from one PC to ther other one |
| 17:19.26 | petn-randall | maferv: Your DE might use libinotify to check for updates, though. |
| 17:19.35 | spyder | BadOgre: ok |
| 17:19.36 | BadOgre | spyder:aptitude search shows eagle and eagle-data |
| 17:20.04 | spyder | BadOgre: here it does not |
| 17:20.31 | petn-randall | paul_grozav: If they're close and it's feasible, hook the Debian machine up to the 'net. Other options are apt-offline or downloading the complete image set. |
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| 17:20.45 | BadOgre | spyder: non-free repo |
| 17:21.07 | spyder | BadOgre: how to add this repo? |
| 17:21.26 | maferv | so then probably that's it petn-randall, xfce4-session is probably using libinotify to check for any changes in the directories of $XDG_DATA_DIRS |
| 17:21.33 | BadOgre | spyder: edit your sources.list |
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| 17:22.58 | paul_grozav | petn-randall: the internet connected pc is 60 Kilometers away from the debian machine :) I saw a page describing apt-offline but It was kind of complicated, Is this a good option? My internet connected machine is running windows xp, can I still use apt-offline? |
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| 17:24.25 | jhutchins | !apt-zip |
| 17:24.25 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip |
| 17:25.11 | jhutchins | paul_grozav: Why would you run Windows on an internet-connected machine? That's a known security vulnerability. |
| 17:25.12 | petn-randall | paul_grozav: apt-offline only works on other debian(-like) machines. As jhutchins said, apt-zip might be an option, but if bandwidth is not an issue, the complete images are a safe bet. |
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| 17:25.47 | petn-randall | paul_grozav: You've got 2 months left to migrate your Windows XP machine to a supported OS ;) |
| 17:26.04 | jhutchins | paul_grozav: You might be able to kludge one of those to run on cygwin, but why not just throw a dual-boot Debian on the network box? |
| 17:26.18 | paul_grozav | petn-randall: is there a wiki page about how to make a complete image? |
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| 17:30.50 | wilmaaaah | hi. when trying to set up a vlan in my /etc/network/interfaces and i try to bring the interface up i keep getting this error: ERROR: trying to add VLAN #2 to IF -:eth0:- error: File exists even though i have removed it with vconfig |
| 17:31.17 | wilmaaaah | where do i find all active vlans? |
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| 17:32.22 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell spyder about multiarch |
| 17:34.20 | spyder | ChrisH: got it working |
| 17:34.43 | wilmaaaah | just to make sure: eth0.2 would be vlan2 on my switch? |
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| 17:36.13 | BadOgre | bye |
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| 17:36.44 | paul_grozav | Thanks, I'll give it a try tomorow maybe :) |
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| 17:38.26 | mikedebian | Hello |
| 17:39.16 | nexu | Hi, I am trying to record sound in audacity, but it records blank. In terminal, rec test.wav records flawlessly. What can be the problem? |
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| 17:40.11 | mikedebian | My wife's computer, her webcam crashes any DE if FGLRX is in use. I made a thread about it in the Debian section of reddit. Knowing that many of you perhaps do not visit that site, I thought I'd ask in here as well. Me and my wife have practically the same computers, except that she has a Radeon 7850 HD and I have the Nvidia 770. Now, after much mucking about, loading the webcam on my wife's computer under any program throws her r |
| 17:40.48 | mikedebian | Tried several things. After removing fglrx, the webcam works as it should (we're both running Jessie), but she needs FGLRX. Any tips? The webcam is UVC compliant. |
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| 17:48.53 | tester_ | hi, i am trying to send an email reminder from my debian box but it doesnt work, can anyone help? |
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| 17:50.01 | Nik05 | tester_ give more information |
| 17:50.04 | Nik05 | !xy |
| 17:50.05 | dpkg | People often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
| 17:50.22 | Nik05 | oh maybe thats not the one i mean :P |
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| 17:51.01 | tester_ | Nik05: I want a email reminder to be sent weekly from my debian server to my email. |
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| 17:51.48 | Nik05 | tester_ still.... give more information |
| 17:52.05 | Nik05 | what is going wrong, what do you want to send, etc? |
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| 17:54.00 | tester_ | i dont know what is going wrong. I created a script in <cron.weekly>, the script is simple <echo "reminder" | mail -s "subject" "emailaddress"> and made it executable, when i run <./script>, nothing happens |
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| 18:02.07 | jetscreamer | did shutdown -Fr now and fsck died when it was done, exit code 1... common in testing? said the fs was clean though |
| 18:02.40 | jetscreamer | brb |
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| 18:03.44 | jetscreamer | bak |
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| 18:11.25 | wilmaaaah | what's the replacement for the deprecated /etc/init.d/networking restart command? |
| 18:11.51 | tremon | use ifup/ifdown on the specific interface you need to restart |
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| 18:12.05 | tremon | in reverse order, obviously |
| 18:12.09 | wilmaaaah | thanks. this often does not work as expected |
| 18:12.09 | centrx | Why was /etc/init.d/networking deprecated? |
| 18:12.24 | dorito125 | I've been wondering that too. Do people just do a sudo ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0? |
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| 18:12.52 | tremon | well don't take my response as gospel, it's just what I use |
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| 18:13.43 | wilmaaaah | yeah, i tend to use ifconfig up/down. there seems to be a difference i don't know. but ifconfig works |
| 18:14.29 | tremon | it doesn't, actually. ifconfig down does e.g. not stop a running dhcp client |
| 18:14.32 | wilmaaaah | does any NIC support VLANs? |
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| 18:14.46 | wilmaaaah | true that |
| 18:14.58 | wilmaaaah | i mean every NIC |
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| 18:15.33 | tremon | fafaik, yes |
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| 18:16.07 | wilmaaaah | then i'm not smart enough. i have lost my new managed switch in a vlan |
| 18:16.24 | teraflops | ip link set .... |
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| 18:16.47 | wilmaaaah | oh |
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| 18:29.04 | dpkg | nabblet <~ben@89.204.135.122> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1d 17h 17m 22s ago, saying: 'owen1: the arch wiki has good article about it'. |
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| 18:53.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hi. Is there a formal specification for Debian packages? |
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| 18:53.59 | centrx | Eduard_Munteanu, https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ |
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| 18:54.08 | Eduard_Munteanu | Not really formal, but I have a bit of trouble seeing the entire picture. |
| 18:55.01 | centrx | Eduard_Munteanu, What would you like to know? |
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| 18:55.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | Thanks. |
| 18:56.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | centrx: I'm interested in writing tools that manipulate debs, and it seems libapt is largely undocumented for external usage |
| 18:56.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | So I'm looking if I can do some of that myself. |
| 18:57.42 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: Manipulate in what way? The building process is pretty well documented. |
| 18:59.30 | Eduard_Munteanu | petn-randall: ultimately I want to install debs on non-Debian systems, like debootstrap does, but doing certain things differently. |
| 19:00.04 | Eduard_Munteanu | Er, unpack is probably a better word. |
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| 19:00.46 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: debs are essentially a gzip with the data in it, the package format itself doesn't have that much to document. |
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| 19:01.09 | Eduard_Munteanu | petn-randall: yeah, though I likely need some dependencies resolution and stuff like that |
| 19:02.08 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: debootstrap also has hooks to work with, but I'm still a little in the dark what your project is about. |
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| 19:03.30 | MyWay | hello, when installing debian on a sun x4200 I'm getting grub-probe error: cannot stat 'aufs', any idea? |
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| 19:04.58 | Eduard_Munteanu | petn-randall: I'm hoping to make an installer more suited to workflows that don't involving booting an actual installer on a machine (virtual or not), and get better control over the process without mucking with policy-rc.d and such to please apt. |
| 19:05.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | Also I have a bit of trouble trusting these tools to do proper crypto validation, especially debootstrap. |
| 19:06.08 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: It's better to validate the current implementation than to write your own crypto validation ;) |
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| 19:06.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | petn-randall: I really don't want to validate bash code :) |
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| 19:08.28 | Eduard_Munteanu | It might be easier to just write it myself rather than audit a foreign codebase written with different purposes in mind. |
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| 19:21.26 | iateadonut | how secure is a VPS? as secure as the system that is running on it? or can it also be compromised by the system that it is running on? |
| 19:21.48 | mjt | what's a VPS? |
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| 19:22.06 | dondelelcaro | iateadonut: systems can always be compromised if the system they are running on is compromised |
| 19:22.20 | dondelelcaro | iateadonut: it's the same thing as compromising a system when you have the hardware |
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| 19:24.44 | tolecnal | iateadonut: that's quite the arbitrary question, but the VPS has in general two attack vectors. The VPS itself and the OS that runs (and the programs it runs), and how that attack vector is tightened. Then it's the actual hypervisor that runs the VPS, which can also be compromised due to its inherent weaknesses/exploits. And then you of course have the very uncommon "someone gained phsyical access to the server running the VPS, and copied all the ... |
| 19:24.50 | tolecnal | ... VM's". |
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| 19:25.50 | esing | Hi, I have a computer without internet access and I don't want to install every package by hand, so I'd like to download a complete repo. Should I just use ftpsync or a tool from this article https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository ? |
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| 19:26.38 | esing | Also I noticed that this official repo has squeeze and wheezy packages together: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apache2/ Is there also a mirror which has just wheezy packages so that I have less to download? |
| 19:27.53 | petn-randall | esing: The normal way to do this is just to download the ISO images, as you can provide them as a source to apt. The http/ftp repos are designed to harbour both releases, so fiddling that apart would involve a lot of hand work. |
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| 19:28.57 | esing | petn-randall, Do you mean with ISO images the 7 Debian CD's ? |
| 19:29.32 | petn-randall | esing: yes. |
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| 19:29.49 | esing | petn-randall, If yes, are you sure the Debian images have all packages which are also in the debian repo? (Because I searched with aptitude search apache2) and I didn't find the apache2-common package |
| 19:30.03 | petn-randall | esing: Other, more lightweight options are apt-offline or apt-zip. |
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| 19:30.42 | petn-randall | esing: Yes, they contain all the package from the respective point release. |
| 19:31.27 | jhutchins | It's always been hard to get information on what's on the rest of the ISOs. |
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| 19:32.16 | jhutchins | Last I checked you have to go into the content listing of each image to see what's on it. |
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| 19:32.37 | esing | petn-randall, Thanks for your advice. I think I go with apt-offline/apt-zip and likewise because then I can easily update the local repo |
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| 19:33.29 | esing | Why is apt-offline / apt-zip not listed here: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository And is apt-offline is doing the same like the ftpsync script? |
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| 19:34.14 | val_erie | I have wheezy and would like to switch from ext4 file system to btrfs. Can someone direct me to functional howto on how to accomplish it? |
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| 19:35.10 | petn-randall | val_erie: btrfs is not production ready. There is a howto on the btrfs wiki page. |
| 19:35.10 | esing | Oh I see, your mentioned tools apt-offline / apt-zip are the recommended tools when having already a local repo and installing stuff on the system |
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| 19:48.53 | smrtz | I jus installed debian, and I'm in openbox, but there's something wrong with my graphics driver, I'm on an AMD E450, can someone help me out please? |
| 19:49.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: if you ask about your problem |
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| 19:49.33 | petn-randall | smrtz: What's wrong with your graphics driver? |
| 19:49.45 | centrx | AMD E450 is not a graphics card? |
| 19:49.59 | smrtz | petn-randall: How can I find out? |
| 19:50.11 | smrtz | centrx: no, but I'm using it's intagrated gpu |
| 19:50.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: you said there's something wrong, how did you arrive at that conclusion? |
| 19:50.27 | petn-randall | smrtz: Well, you said there's something wrong with it. How do you know? |
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| 19:51.12 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: Everything just looks, weird. The screen worked when I was in console, but once I started openbox, it started freaking out like this. |
| 19:51.17 | esing | Should I run rsync on the first Stage already with these options--recursive --times --links --hard-links --delete? It's not clear to me. I got it from 'rsync setup' paragraph: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
| 19:51.38 | smrtz | Like, the boarders of all my windows are surrounded by flickering white dots. |
| 19:51.48 | smrtz | sec, maybe it'll show up in a scrot |
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| 19:52.07 | petn-randall | esing: How many GB do you have free? Usually it's not necessary to mirror the whole archive unless you've got 100+ local machines to serve. |
| 19:52.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: what sort of output (VGA, HDMI, ...) and display do you use? |
| 19:52.38 | smrtz | I'm on a laptop, using the built in display. |
| 19:52.49 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: a thinpad x130e |
| 19:53.00 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ah. |
| 19:53.15 | smrtz | http://imgur.com/CJN5PQG |
| 19:53.16 | petn-randall | smrtz: Take a picture and picpaste it if you like. |
| 19:53.19 | smrtz | If you guys can see it. |
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| 19:53.22 | esing | petn-randall, I've got a one TB hdd here. I estimated the size of the official repo to be about 120 GB big |
| 19:53.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: nope, looks normal |
| 19:53.56 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: Ahh, well trust me, things are, weird... |
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| 19:54.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: what driver are you using? Did you change things? |
| 19:54.58 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: petn-randall: what's weird is I installed yesterday, and this worked, but trying to install bspwm didn't, and I reinstalled today, and that works, but this driver doesn't... |
| 19:55.01 | petn-randall | smrtz: Check /var/log/kern.log for any errors since you started X. |
| 19:55.06 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: can you please tell me how to check? |
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| 19:55.15 | smrtz | petn-randall: thanks |
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| 19:55.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: glxinfo or /var/log/Xorg.*.log |
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| 19:56.57 | petn-randall | esing: It's closer to 900 GB ... http://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
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| 19:57.47 | centrx | hurd-i386 is only 17GB. Does it have some magical tiny binaries, or does it lack packages? |
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| 19:59.00 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: I think I'm using XFree86-DRI? |
| 19:59.08 | esing | petn-randall, Ah right, because it got all the architectures mixed and I guess I can't filter the architectures out |
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| 19:59.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: mmm, that's not it |
| 19:59.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: pastebin the xorg log |
| 19:59.54 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: ati)drv.so? |
| 19:59.56 | cat_pants | Is it possible to split a late_command into multiple late_commands for readability? I currently have a giant single line separated by semicolons, it's ugly as hell |
| 19:59.57 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: ok. |
| 20:00.02 | esing | petn-randall, How can I only get packages for i386? |
| 20:01.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | esing: you might want to use an APT cacher instead |
| 20:01.34 | Eduard_Munteanu | esing: what are you planning to use the mirror for? |
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| 20:03.22 | esing | Eduard_Munteanu, To install i386 packages on a debian system without internet connection |
| 20:03.42 | esing | (wheezy) |
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| 20:04.21 | elichai2 | in debian netinstall it have an encryption option? |
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| 20:04.52 | abrotman | yes |
| 20:04.55 | abrotman | read the insatllation manual |
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| 20:05.34 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: since there's no wgetpaste, I'm installing gedit, and I'll copy and paste the output ot of there, that's why it's taking so long. |
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| 20:06.03 | abrotman | !pastebinit |
| 20:06.03 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 20:06.15 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: http://pastebin.com/czX5D4si |
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| 20:09.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: hm, yes, there is something wrong |
| 20:10.11 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: how so? |
| 20:10.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | [ 1073.179] (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed |
| 20:10.41 | smrtz | Ahh, ok. |
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| 20:12.06 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: hold on, I'm still looking at it |
| 20:12.20 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: sure. |
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| 20:13.41 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: can you pastebin dmesg as well? |
| 20:13.45 | smrtz | sure. |
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| 20:14.25 | esing | Eduard_Munteanu, Could I run the apt-cacher on a ubuntu system but use the debian mirror and if I wanted to get debian packages they would only be on the ubuntu system's storage and not necessarily installed on ubuntu? . I can't use apt-cacher though because I can't connect the system with another internet connected linux system. |
| 20:14.46 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: http://pastebin.com/ZRic5HB7 |
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| 20:17.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: it seems you're missing the firmware |
| 20:17.51 | Eduard_Munteanu | [ 5.207106] [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree. |
| 20:17.54 | smrtz | Ahh, ok. That sounds like a possibility |
| 20:18.04 | esing | Eduard_Munteanu, Actually I could connect a Ubuntu system (running the apt-cacher) with the debian system, by using a usb<->usb bridged cable |
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| 20:18.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | esing: you could ask apt-get to download packages without installing them |
| 20:19.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | esing: although that might not be easy to use, I was thinking of a VM. |
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| 20:20.28 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: firmware-linux-nonfree isn't in the default repos? |
| 20:20.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: not sure, haven't tried it lately |
| 20:20.50 | ksuhku | no, because of non-freeness |
| 20:21.13 | smrtz | ksuhku: ahh, I should have figured that... |
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| 20:23.08 | smrtz | ksuhku: it looks like it is?: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 20:23.11 | esing | Eduard_Munteanu, Also I am not sure if I could mess up debian with ubuntu packages if I add debians repo to Ubuntu sources |
| 20:23.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | esing: don't do that, no |
| 20:23.48 | esing | So the apt-cacher server should have the same linux distru like the apt-cacher client |
| 20:23.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | esing: you can debootstrap a Debian chroot and use that instead |
| 20:24.11 | esing | Oh that's good to know |
| 20:24.17 | ksuhku | smrtz, wow, confusing! |
| 20:24.56 | smrtz | ksuhku: yeah, and everything I see on google says to just install it with apt. Can you search for it please, and tell me if apt finds it for you? |
| 20:25.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | Well, it's free-er than the alternative, which is fglrx. :) |
| 20:25.18 | smrtz | I think it's like, apt-cash search firmware-linux-nonfree or something like that. |
| 20:25.46 | ksuhku | smrtz, I'm not at my debian box now |
| 20:25.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: apt-cache |
| 20:25.53 | smrtz | ksuhku: ahh, ok. |
| 20:25.59 | smrtz | I'll keep trying random things then. |
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| 20:27.26 | smrtz | Looks like I need to enable a repo for it. |
| 20:27.29 | mtn | smrtz: you need to add non-free to your sources.list |
| 20:27.41 | smrtz | mtn: yeah, thanks for the confermation. |
| 20:27.41 | mtn | smrtz: might as well add contrib, too |
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| 20:29.02 | smrtz | mtn: hmm, I don't see any lines for either non-free, or contrib in my sources.list. Can you pastebin yours for me, so I can pull the relevent lines out of there pleaes? |
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| 20:29.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 20:30.20 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: ahh, ok. |
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| 20:30.44 | Roland- | hello can i mtr otr traceroute an AS directly ? I want to know if I have peering |
| 20:30.59 | esing | Eduard_Munteanu, Is the use of Debootstrap what you meant by VM, or do I also need an actualy VM for that setup? I guess if I have the Debootstrap chrooted Debian and the apt-cacher server that should all |
| 20:31.01 | Arr0way | question - will a i686 debian install be smaller than a amd64 install ? |
| 20:31.11 | Eduard_Munteanu | Roland-: use an online BGP looking glass tool |
| 20:31.13 | esing | +be |
| 20:31.23 | Arr0way | my thought is there will be both 32 and 64 bit libs on the 64 install ? |
| 20:31.24 | ksuhku | Arr0way, on disk probably not, in memory yeah |
| 20:31.24 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: that page doesn't exist. |
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| 20:31.44 | stew | smrtz: yes it does |
| 20:31.47 | Arr0way | ksuhku: it will use more ram ? |
| 20:31.52 | ksuhku | yes |
| 20:31.53 | ompaul | Arr0way: there won't be enough to care about |
| 20:32.14 | Arr0way | ompaul: id like to keep my install down to < 1gb if possible |
| 20:32.15 | ompaul | Arr0way: or to put it another way, if it matters that much do your own use metrics |
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| 20:32.37 | ompaul | Arr0way: ehn use the net install and don't do a desktop |
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| 20:32.58 | Arr0way | ompaul: i will, I'm debootstraping |
| 20:33.07 | smrtz | stew: I'm getting a "this page does not exist yet" error... |
| 20:33.29 | stew | smrtz: dunno, it works fine for me |
| 20:33.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | Arr0way: Wheezy is multiarch, you get the 32bit stuff if you install 32bit stuff explicitly, AFAIK |
| 20:33.55 | Arr0way | Eduard_Munteanu: ok thanks |
| 20:33.58 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: try using http instead of https |
| 20:34.00 | smrtz | stew: wtf, when I find the page on goole, it works fine for me too. The URLs are exactly the same... |
| 20:34.12 | stew | smrtz: you can also 'man sources.list' |
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| 20:34.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | Beats me why https would be broken for you, though. |
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| 20:35.26 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: I've got it working now, thanks though. |
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| 20:36.15 | Persopolis | Hi I'm trying to locate a package to manually install - could you help me locate a source for it please - libboost1.37 and libboost1.37-dev for amd64 |
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| 20:38.41 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: got it. |
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| 20:38.49 | smrtz | Eduard_Munteanu: How can I kill x from within? Just sudo pkill xserver? |
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| 20:40.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | smrtz: switch to a console VT with Ctrl+Alt+F* and stop it there |
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| 20:40.32 | stew | Persopolis: check snapshot.debian.org |
| 20:40.44 | esing | Couldn't I filter out other architecture packages that I don't need (amd64 ia64 armel mips mipsel powerpc s390 armhf ) when rsyncen the official repo to my local drive? Possibly that would save me ~700GB |
| 20:40.45 | esing | (rsync --exclude=PATTERN) |
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| 20:42.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | esing: if you rsync manually it should be straightforward, see the --exclude option |
| 20:42.10 | smrtz|nix | Eduard_Munteanu: yep, it's fixed now. Thanks! |
| 20:42.22 | elichai2 | in debian netinstall it have an encryption option? |
| 20:42.29 | abailarri | Hello. I'm trying to host a web in a server on debian wheezy. I configured the vhost and the bind zone, but when I put the url, it goes to the /var/www web, not to the /var/www/miweb.com |
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| 20:42.34 | abailarri | any help please? |
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| 20:42.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | elichai2: IIRC yes, but it should be the same as the normal installer |
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| 20:43.20 | elichai2 | Eduard_Munteanu: so both Net and normal installers have encryption option? |
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| 20:43.34 | Eduard_Munteanu | elichai2: it's the same installer really, AFAIK |
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| 20:44.37 | elichai2 | Eduard_Munteanu: so it has an encryption right? |
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| 20:45.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | elichai2: I think so, I'm not sure... you could try it (perhaps in a VM if you don't want to disrupt something). |
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| 20:47.33 | stew | yes, it has options for installed to an encrypted volume |
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| 20:54.10 | petn-randall | Hi abailarri, which web server are you using? |
| 20:54.17 | abailarri | apache |
| 20:54.48 | petn-randall | abailarri: What does 'apache2ctl -S' give you? |
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| 20:55.26 | mdim | how does it work in Debian when a package has a "broken" version of a program? Does the Debian team put an effort to backport as much as possible from a newer version to fix it? In partcular, I'd like to know about Evolution (GNOME 3.4 in Wheezy) |
| 20:55.48 | abailarri | petn-randall, http://pastebin.com/cCDvhTAZ |
| 20:56.06 | abailarri | the ernaigaz.... is my new web |
| 20:56.14 | abailarri | the inurri... is the /var/www |
| 20:56.43 | petn-randall | abailarri: What are the contents of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ernaigazte.cc.conf? |
| 20:56.53 | tgd | hi. I'm having troubles integrating a patch to a package (first time trying). My process so far is: apt-get source, integrating my changes to debian/patches with quilt (the patch is properly created and applied to the sources). From there I have tried to make a binary package with "quilt pop -a" then "debuild -us -uc", but the result seems to be unpatched. I also tried without "quilt pop -a" with the same result. What am I missing ? |
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| 20:56.56 | centrx | mdim, How is it broken? |
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| 20:57.45 | abailarri | petn-randall, http://pastebin.com/fHqeFUTy |
| 20:57.52 | petn-randall | tgd: We have #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net, which is the better suited channel for packaging support. They won't bite and will help you there ;) |
| 20:58.00 | mdim | centrx: one example: I add a WebDAV calendar that I have write permissions for. For some time, I can happily add, edit, and remove events, but after some time the calendar simply becomes "read-only" |
| 20:58.06 | tgd | petn-randall: thanks! |
| 20:58.18 | mdim | in other words, I can't add an event or make any modifications to the calendar |
| 20:58.30 | petn-randall | abailarri: And you access it over http://ernaigazte.cc? |
| 20:58.45 | centrx | mdim, Did you find any reference to this bug online? |
| 20:58.46 | mdim | so, what I have to do is to delete the calendar and add it again to be able to normally use it |
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| 20:59.03 | abailarri | petn-randall, when I acces to ernaigazte.cc it goes to inurritegia.cc |
| 20:59.04 | mdim | centrx: I haven't given it a try. There are multiple other issues |
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| 20:59.35 | stew | mdim: that doesn't sound like a bug that would get fixed in stable |
| 20:59.57 | centrx | mdim, Are you mixing in non-Debian packages or packages from other releases? |
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| 21:00.11 | centrx | mdim, Those bugs sound like they would have been fixed in upstream before it was even included in the release in the first place. |
| 21:00.19 | mdim | stew: so, a GNOME team within Debian would act if there was a bug report for this and port a fix to Debian stable? |
| 21:00.21 | petn-randall | abailarri: I can't reproduce the problem. I'm getting two different pages from here. |
| 21:00.30 | centrx | mdim, Software does not simply "acquire" bugs over time without other changes being made to the system |
| 21:00.31 | mdim | centrx: nope, pure Debian stable (Wheezy 7.4) |
| 21:00.33 | petn-randall | abailarri: Maybe your browser is still caching the page? |
| 21:00.35 | stew | mdim: no, i'm saying they would not do this |
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| 21:01.11 | stew | mdim: if they did port a fix for it, they would have a hard time getting the release managers to allow such a fix to go in |
| 21:01.23 | stew | mdim: since it doesn't sound like a release critical bug |
| 21:01.36 | abailarri | petn-randall, I cleaned the cache |
| 21:01.45 | mdim | stew: so, if I want to stay with Debian stable, I just have to wait for a new Debian release and hope it will include a version of GNOME where this is fixed? |
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| 21:02.55 | stew | mdim: right. and the next release is certain to have a much different version of gnome |
| 21:03.14 | petn-randall | abailarri: http://inurritegia.cc redirects me to https, and then to a login page, http://ernaigazte.cc/ looks like a blog of some kind. I get different pages from here. |
| 21:03.23 | stew | mdim: the next release of debian might be 18 months away? (no way of knowing) |
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| 21:04.00 | abailarri | o petn-randall it is because the dns are not propagued 100% |
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| 21:04.08 | abailarri | pulse f5 some times |
| 21:04.22 | nicko_94 | does anybody know how to permanently set the sampling_down_factor of the ondemand governor? |
| 21:04.24 | mdim | stew: I see. So, I'd say if one wants to have a desktop integration with a groupware suite, one shouldn't rely on getting that from Debian Wheezy |
| 21:04.27 | HumTDev | Does anyone have a guide on how to install AMD catalyst drivers? I installed it but X won't start and I am stuck on black screen with blinking cursor in top left corner. ideas? |
| 21:04.36 | tremon | mdim: in practice, not many feature bugfixes are backported into stable but it depends (somewhat) on maintainer preference. |
| 21:05.16 | petn-randall | abailarri: Firefox saves a redirect if it's a "301 redirect permanent", that's at least one of the annoying "features" I found with Firefox. |
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| 21:05.25 | nicko_94 | HumTDev: you have to erase the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and then run as root "aticonfig --initial" |
| 21:05.26 | tremon | mdim: also, gnome upstream isn't big on maintenance releases, most of the time the specific gnome release in debian is EOL before stable is even released |
| 21:05.33 | mdim | so, a more general question is: how was GNOME 3.4 picked to be included in Wheezy (and not some more recent version)? |
| 21:05.35 | stew | its not like a maintainer can decide he prefers to fix minor bugs in stable and just go and do it, its up to an SRM who is bound to be very conservative |
| 21:05.50 | HumTDev | nicko_94, yeah I did that. No good. :/ Blacklist fglrx maybe? |
| 21:06.04 | mdim | stew: SRM is...? |
| 21:06.10 | stew | mdim: it was the most recent release at the time when wheezy was frozen |
| 21:06.14 | stew | mdim: stable release manager |
| 21:06.36 | nicko_94 | HumTDev: that's the opposite step. You have to be sure that radeon module is blacklisted |
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| 21:06.59 | stew | mdim: gnome 3.6 didn't exist at the time when wheezy was frozen |
| 21:07.00 | HumTDev | radeon will try to load? ok i will try black listing that module |
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| 21:07.05 | HumTDev | brb |
| 21:07.07 | mdim | stew: so, even when a GNOME version has some nasty usability issues, it still gets to be included in Debian stable? |
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| 21:07.41 | stew | mdim: yes. the alternative is to remove gnome from debian completely? |
| 21:07.42 | tremon | have there been gnome releases without them? |
| 21:07.43 | centrx | mdim, If you weren't able to find anyone else who encountered these bugs, how nasty could they be? |
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| 21:07.49 | abailarri | petn-randall, what? |
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| 21:08.09 | nicko_94 | HumTDev: if you used the official installer, there should be a file already created at /etc/modprobe.d/ to do that |
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| 21:08.24 | mdim | centrx: as I said, I haven't tried to find someone else that ran into the same issues (even though I did stumble upon such users) |
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| 21:08.42 | stew | mdim: is this bug filed in the bts? |
| 21:08.57 | mdim | stew: I don't know |
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| 21:09.16 | mdim | stew: and from what you guys just said, probably it's not worth even trying to file such issues |
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| 21:09.29 | centrx | It would be if you wanted to find out what was causing it |
| 21:09.30 | stew | mdim: why? |
| 21:09.40 | centrx | It could be a configuration setting even |
| 21:09.51 | mdim | stew: because they're not going to be backported to Debian stable |
| 21:10.04 | stew | mdim: does this bug exist in debian testing? |
| 21:10.31 | mdim | another big issue: a keyboard and mouse simply "die" in GNOME sometimes, and all one can do is to reboot the whole OS |
| 21:10.35 | stew | mdim: if bugs aren't being reported to debian, please don't hold debian at fault for releasing with bugs it doesn't know about |
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| 21:11.17 | d3lxa | any idea how can I change the font color in GTK3 apps (like liferea)? it's pure white, it burns my eyes, I prefer grey-white, thx |
| 21:11.17 | stew | mdim: if you don't report a bug, we cannot track whether or not the next release of debian fixes the bug |
| 21:11.21 | mdim | stew: I'm just trying to figure out how the whole thing works, including a policy for what package versions get in, etc. |
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| 21:11.36 | stew | mdim: sure, i can answer all those questions |
| 21:11.40 | Zzeiss | mdim: yeah, seen that. It's pretty rare and I don't know how to cause it. |
| 21:11.47 | stew | mdim: what specifically do you want to know? |
| 21:12.07 | mdim | stew: I already got answers to that |
| 21:13.39 | mdim | generally speaking, where do I report bugs for packages in Debian stable? I guess not upstream because, as you just said, Debian usually has much older package versions than upstream |
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| 21:13.49 | stew | mdim: here's the section of the developers reference which talks about updates to stable: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-stable |
| 21:13.52 | stew | mdim: /msg dpkg bts |
| 21:14.03 | jhutchins | mdim: You haven't actually defined a bug, you've defined a problem you had with the system. |
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| 21:15.01 | mdim | jhutchins: how do I make a transition from a problem to a bug? |
| 21:15.23 | jhutchins | mdim: You need to narrow it down to the portion of the system that's causing the problem at least. |
| 21:15.46 | jhutchins | mdim: Ideally point out the code segment that is incorrect and why, but that's farther than most users can go. |
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| 21:16.14 | jhutchins | mdim: At the very least, it needs to be reproducible on a clean install. |
| 21:16.17 | mdim | jhutchins: well, if my keyboard and mouse freeze, and I can't do anything after that, it can be hard to narrow down the problem to a specific system |
| 21:16.39 | jhutchins | mdim: Correct, unless you know exactly what step preceeds the freeze. |
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| 21:17.50 | mdim | jhutchins: and as you might guess, I'm just a random user who doesn't keep a log of every action one does, so it can be hard to reproduce. This issue in particular, a freeze with a mouse and keyboard, I have no clue what precedes it |
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| 21:18.38 | jhutchins | mdim: You should also be able to see that while this happens on your system, it doesn't happen consistently across other systems. |
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| 21:18.57 | mdim | jhutchins: of course. Yet, that doesn't mean that's not a bug |
| 21:18.58 | lofl | hi guys. I got a strange problem, and a unusual one I think. I got a clean install af debian jessie. But no idea how to get wireless card to work. Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 |
| 21:19.17 | jhutchins | mdim: I see your complaint about the calendar problem, but not the keyboard/mouse freeze. What kind? Wireless? USB? |
| 21:19.43 | mdim | jhutchins: wireless and laptop-in-built |
| 21:20.01 | jhutchins | mdim: Failure to handle certain hardware correctly could be a bug, yes, but only if it were consistent and reproducible. |
| 21:20.03 | lofl | broadcom-sta-dkms blargh is this what I need? |
| 21:20.15 | tremon | !tell lofl -about b43 |
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| 21:20.48 | jhutchins | mdim: Do you have lm_sensors installed? |
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| 21:21.23 | tremon | lofl: for broadcom, it really depends on the specific chipset how many hoops you need to take. See the PM from dpkg |
| 21:21.32 | mdim | jhutchins: I don't know what that is. Should I search a package with that name? |
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| 21:22.09 | jhutchins | mdim: I guess it depends on how much work you're interested in doing to solve this. |
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| 21:22.48 | jhutchins | mdim: I did not see if the system is still operable via ssh after the keyboard/mouse freeze. |
| 21:22.52 | lofl | thanks tremon |
| 21:22.59 | mdim | jhutchins: what would it take? Of course, I'd like to be able to normally use my computer, so I might put some effort into figuring out the issue |
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| 21:23.27 | tremon | lofl: looks like you need this one: https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211#supported |
| 21:23.28 | mdim | jhutchins: I didn't have an extra computer at hand to check ssh |
| 21:23.49 | tiny | Was there ever consideration to join apt-* family of commands into one? Just apt(8) for example? |
| 21:24.08 | mdim | jhutchins: but I guess the OS running, because I could hear music keep on playing |
| 21:24.17 | mdim | *the OS kept running |
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| 21:26.37 | jhutchins | mdim: Ok, less likely to be a thermal problem then. |
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| 21:27.39 | jhutchins | mdim: lm_sensors is a package, yes, it has a script which installs drivers which can read the hardware temperature, voltage, and fan speed sensors, and it will log some of that, and there are packages like gkrellm which will display the system's condition and might tell you about the problem. |
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| 21:27.59 | mdim | jhutchins: I had a different OS a month ago (Trisquel 6.0), and I haven't had the keyboard-mouse issue there |
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| 21:28.17 | jhutchins | mdim: You should be aware that there are a lot of people who use gnome on debian every day for their regular work and don't have problems with it, so your case may be unique. |
| 21:28.37 | jhutchins | mdim: Good information. WHat kernel did it use? |
| 21:28.46 | mdim | jhutchins: it's not unique. I've found a user (I guess here in #debian) that has the same issue |
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| 21:29.09 | jhutchins | mdim: Promising then. |
| 21:29.10 | mdim | jhutchins: 3.2 as well, though occasionally I would use a newer kernel |
| 21:29.24 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 21:29.25 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.13-trunk-686-pae (3.13-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.4-1); jessie: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.9-1); wheezy-backports: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.12.9-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.51-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
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| 21:29.58 | jhutchins | mdim: Have you tried the debian backport? |
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| 21:30.09 | mdim | jhutchins: I don't remember the details, but it was 3.2.0-something |
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| 21:30.15 | mdim | jhutchins: of what? |
| 21:30.31 | jhutchins | mdim: Kernel, see above. 3.12. |
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| 21:30.57 | HumTDev | man this sucks |
| 21:31.30 | jhutchins | HumTDev: Working with bumblebee? |
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| 21:31.37 | HumTDev | jessie |
| 21:31.41 | mdim | jhutchins: well, I gave 3.12 a try, but not sure if it was due to the kernel, I had no sound when booted with 3.12 |
| 21:31.49 | jhutchins | HumTDev: Well, testing. |
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| 21:31.57 | mdim | jhutchins: so I reverted back |
| 21:32.01 | HumTDev | I can't get the desktop to start when I install 13.11 drivers |
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| 21:32.02 | jhutchins | HumTDev: bumblebee is the software to deal with catalyst (I think). |
| 21:32.05 | apipkin | I have a debian wheezy server. I'm wanting to create a user so I'm not doing everything as "root". How would I go about doing this? I'm guessing `useradd`? But I wasn't sure |
| 21:32.23 | HumTDev | If I remove the drivers it comes up but with terrible lags |
| 21:32.24 | dondelelcaro | apipkin: just adduser username; |
| 21:32.34 | HumTDev | radeon is blacklisted by default |
| 21:32.36 | dondelelcaro | apipkin: in general, at install time a user should have been created |
| 21:33.00 | dondelelcaro | HumTDev: is there a reason you've blacklisted radeon? |
| 21:33.19 | HumTDev | i didn't black list it. the amd drivers did? |
| 21:33.31 | jhutchins | mdim: It would be interesting to see if the k/m problem was present in 3.12. |
| 21:33.36 | dondelelcaro | HumTDev: oh; you're using AMD's drivers instead of the free drivers? |
| 21:33.40 | jhutchins | mdim: You could do troubleshooting on the sound. |
| 21:34.26 | jhutchins | mdim: One of the things you should probably be doing is reading through the output of dmesg|less, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log and looking for clues and errors. |
| 21:34.27 | HumTDev | i have to use the ati drivers |
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| 21:34.34 | mdim | jhutchins: well, as far as remember, the other user that ran into the k/m issue said the issue was due to GNOME 3.4, so I'm not sure if it has anything to do with a kernel used |
| 21:34.47 | dondelelcaro | HumTDev: why? the free drivers should work in almost all cases |
| 21:34.59 | HumTDev | not for opencl they dont |
| 21:35.15 | jhutchins | mdim: There's another possibility then, try another DE and see if it happens there. |
| 21:35.18 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* |
| 21:35.20 | HumTDev | i'm trying to stop support for winbuntu |
| 21:35.34 | dondelelcaro | HumTDev: then install them and the kernel modules |
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| 21:36.54 | apipkin | dondelelcaro: Im not seeing any other users. Will `adduser` also create the user directories in `/home/`? |
| 21:37.04 | dondelelcaro | apipkin: yes |
| 21:37.12 | apipkin | wooohoo! |
| 21:37.15 | apipkin | Thanks |
| 21:37.39 | dondelelcaro | apipkin: in general, you want to use adduser instead of useradd (the latter is a lower-level utility) |
| 21:37.48 | jhutchins | apipkin: It will also populate them with the files from /etc/skel |
| 21:38.37 | jhutchins | !sag |
| 21:38.38 | dpkg | sag is probably The Linux System Administrator's Guide see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/, or say, in german. |
| 21:39.00 | jhutchins | apipkin: That's a bit old, but still useful. |
| 21:39.08 | apipkin | that's why i was asking :) useradd was showing up in most of my searches but it didn't seem to be correct. Thanks so much for the link! |
| 21:39.26 | apipkin | is new to server admin'ing |
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| 21:39.42 | jhutchins | apipkin: As were we all at some time. |
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| 21:41.12 | apipkin | Is "room number" just some extra data |
| 21:41.45 | tylerjd | Yeo\ |
| 21:41.54 | tylerjd | Wow, that was supposed to be yep |
| 21:41.57 | apipkin | jhutchins: That's the best way to look at it |
| 21:41.58 | zykotick9 | apipkin: probably a question left over from finger-era |
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| 21:42.21 | jhutchins | apipkin: The gekos fields were set up mostly for the old "finger" command in accademic environments. |
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| 21:42.51 | tylerjd | Basically, you could more or less finger servers to find out info on them |
| 21:43.31 | jhutchins | tylerjd: Well, you'd finger users to find out where to go to tell them that they were on the fifth box of paper and did they really mean to print all of that. |
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| 21:43.38 | apipkin | Oh cool |
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| 21:44.02 | apipkin | haha @ "print all of that" |
| 21:44.03 | tylerjd | jhutchins: Hahah, yes. that is the one and only reason to finger users. |
| 21:44.46 | jhutchins | tylerjd: It was actually pretty useful in some environments, sortof like /whois on irc or whois for domains. |
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| 21:45.13 | jhutchins | apipkin: Of course, the answer was usually "What!? No!!!" |
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| 21:45.44 | apipkin | "I tried pressing `escape` but that didn't do any thing!" |
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| 21:50.35 | lofl | On a thinkpad E320, got driver module loaded, and shows up when ifconfig -a, but when trying to bring it up I get the error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill Wireless is probably turned off with Fn+F9 right? (and not sure how to turn it on, Fn+F9 does nothing, even sais it should on keyboard |
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| 21:51.33 | apipkin | Okay, so for the user that I created for myself (`apipkin`) how do I make it so it can sudo? |
| 21:51.49 | zwick | lofl: as root, run `rfkill list` |
| 21:52.01 | lofl | zwick: awesome! |
| 21:52.04 | lofl | Soft blocked: yes |
| 21:52.10 | zwick | lofl: You should see a list of interfaces |
| 21:52.44 | zwick | lofl: So then as root do `rfkill unblock n` where n is the identifier number of that interface |
| 21:52.51 | zwick | lofl: hope that helps. |
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| 21:53.31 | lofl | rfkill unblock 1 :D wow, didnt know about this. Thanks a lot zwick |
| 21:53.45 | tylerjd | apipkin: You'll probably want to add it to the sudo group |
| 21:54.14 | jhutchins | apipkin: A lot of people just use "su -" to become root (requires root password), but you can add apipkin to the sudoers group (log out, log back in). |
| 21:54.59 | jhutchins | apipkin: sudo group, not sudoers. |
| 21:55.01 | tylerjd | apipkin: I believe the syntax is usermod -aG sudo username |
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| 21:59.24 | esing | It confuses me that this source https://www.debian.org/mirror/size mentions Debian's archive to be 894GB big, but if I do rsync ftp.de.debian.org:: the repository FTP index shows the debian/ repository to be 310GB big. |
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| 22:01.30 | centrx | esing, Some mirrors exclude things |
| 22:01.55 | esing | centrx, Hm, also official mirrors? |
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| 22:02.28 | esing | Or maybe the mirror's ftp index page is static and got deprecated numbers? |
| 22:03.49 | centrx | That is possible as well |
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| 22:04.09 | petn-randall | esing: I still don't quite understand why you want to mirror the whole archive. Doesn't apt-zip/apt-offline fix you needs? |
| 22:04.16 | apipkin | Looks like it's working! |
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| 22:04.30 | centrx | esing, ftp.de.debian.org seems to only exclude hurd-i386 |
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| 22:07.22 | esing | petn-randall, I don't understand what apt-zip/apt-offline is doing exactly. Do I use apt-zip on the internet system and download a package with all its dependencies into a compressed file and then I'd copy that file (via usb) to the host system (without internet) and use apt-offline to install the package? |
| 22:07.44 | esing | centrx, Hm, good to know, thanks |
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| 22:08.05 | centrx | esing, Why do you want to mirror the whole archve? |
| 22:08.19 | apipkin | And dotfiles are installed! Woot! Thanks so much for the help :) |
| 22:08.47 | esing | centrx, I want to install different i386 packages on a computer without internet. |
| 22:09.11 | petn-randall | esing: Check the description of the packages. The essentially download any package you want (and it's dependencies) for later installation on an offline machine. |
| 22:09.15 | esing | (So I put an archive on a usb drive to install from) |
| 22:09.28 | centrx | esing, Why not just download the DVD ISOs? |
| 22:09.34 | centrx | esing, The archive contains every architecture, not just i386... |
| 22:09.45 | esing | petn-randall, I see, I'll give that a try too |
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| 22:10.37 | esing | centrx, Well, I tried 'aptitude search apache2' and the debian system only found apache2.2-bin but not apache2.2-common. For apache2.2-bin debian requested CD1 |
| 22:10.52 | petn-randall | esing: Then it'll be a lot easier to apt-zip/apt-offline, or just download the full ISOs of the point release. Mirroring the archive is only meant to be done when you a) want to provide a mirror yourself, or b) want to serve 100+ clients in your LAN. |
| 22:11.33 | petn-randall | esing: That's probably because you still have the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list. Just insert the CD then ... :) |
| 22:12.11 | zykotick9 | esing: downloading DVDs 1-3 will probably give you most of what you need... |
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| 22:12.41 | esing | petn-randall, Yes, I inserted CD1 and I could install apache2.2-bin, but apache2.2-common is necessary to run apache2, but aptitude didn't find it :S |
| 22:13.13 | daemonkeeper | Because that's not in CD1. |
| 22:13.28 | esing | Ah, so my sources.list got only CD1 and not the others |
| 22:13.47 | daemonkeeper | Yes. |
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| 22:14.02 | esing | Good to know, thanks |
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| 22:14.30 | daemonkeeper | You either want to add a network mirror, or more CDs. |
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| 22:16.24 | daemonkeeper | And I told you already, apache2.2-bin is all being needed by Gnome and hence being on CD1. Everything else is therefore on other CDs (CD2) |
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| 22:17.13 | esing | Ye I remember that, just didn't make the connection to the missing source.list entries for the other CDs |
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| 22:24.19 | berceanu_ | i changed my apt sources list to use wheezy-backports iceweasel-beta instead of aurora, did apt-get update and now apt-get install -t wheezy-backports iceweasel tells me iceweasel is already the newest version. |
| 22:24.38 | berceanu_ | i have aurora installed and would like to downgrade to beta |
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| 22:25.17 | centrx | berceanu_, How did you install aurora? |
| 22:25.49 | centrx | berceanu_, It sounds like you did some things outside the Debian package management system |
| 22:25.54 | berceanu_ | centrx: in the same way, i added the repository to my sources and installed |
| 22:26.01 | centrx | berceanu_, In that case, you have to uninstall it using the same way you installed it |
| 22:26.05 | centrx | berceanu_, Did you use some special sources? |
| 22:26.12 | berceanu_ | centrx: |
| 22:26.15 | berceanu_ | centrx: no |
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| 22:26.30 | berceanu_ | centrx: i didnt uninstall it before removing the rep, should i have? |
| 22:26.38 | centrx | berceanu_, The official Debian repositories do not have "aurora", right? |
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| 22:26.49 | berceanu_ | centrx: ahh. sure |
| 22:26.58 | berceanu_ | centrx: i looked on the debian mozilla page |
| 22:27.04 | centrx | berceanu_, You can uninstall it without the repository in sources.list |
| 22:27.27 | centrx | berceanu_, But yes, you may need to uninstall it before you can install the other version, with dpkg --purge or apt-get remove --purge |
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| 22:27.58 | Eryn_1983_Fl | hi peeps |
| 22:28.02 | berceanu_ | centrx: haha, apt wants to remove gnome! |
| 22:28.06 | centrx | berceanu_, The package manager may have the beta version numbered as a newer version, so it does not replace it with the older version |
| 22:28.11 | centrx | berceanu_, Use dpkg --purge then |
| 22:28.20 | Eryn_1983_Fl | I just bought a Zotac ZBOX and I am having issues with booting linux fro a usb drive.. |
| 22:28.22 | Eryn_1983_Fl | from |
| 22:28.38 | Eryn_1983_Fl | All i get is a blinking - |
| 22:28.51 | berceanu_ | centrx: dpkg complains that gnome-core depends on iceweasel |
| 22:28.58 | Eryn_1983_Fl | in the corner. i have tried the i3a6 and the ia64 |
| 22:29.08 | centrx | berceanu_, You can uninstall gnome-core, it is just a metapackage |
| 22:29.22 | centrx | berceanu_, Or if you know you are going to install iceweasel right afterwards, you can use --force with dpkg |
| 22:29.23 | berceanu_ | centrx: i just followed the instructions here http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 22:29.34 | centrx | berceanu_, Okay, that's fine |
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| 22:29.57 | berceanu_ | centrx: sudo dpkg --purge --force iceweasel? |
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| 22:30.40 | centrx | berceanu_, maybe --force-depends |
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| 22:31.02 | berceanu_ | centrx: maybe? :) |
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| 22:31.32 | centrx | berceanu_, --force-depends is good to be less forceful. If it is not forceful enough, you can use --force-all |
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| 22:31.49 | centrx | berceanu_, or --force-depends-version with --force-depends |
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| 22:32.41 | berceanu_ | centrx: ok, --force-depends did the trick |
| 22:32.52 | centrx | great! |
| 22:33.01 | berceanu_ | centrx: now, when installing the beta, apt complains iceweasel : Depends: xulrunner-28 (= 28.0~b3-1~bpo70+1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 22:33.20 | centrx | berceanu_, Oh, I thought you were _un_installing the beta and going back to backports? |
| 22:33.37 | berceanu_ | centrx: the beta *is* in the backports |
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| 22:33.49 | centrx | oh okay I guess beta is different from aurora |
| 22:33.49 | berceanu_ | centrx: and so is the aurora |
| 22:33.57 | centrx | yeah I don't know about the Firefox dev system |
| 22:33.58 | jhutchins | Eryn_1983_Fl: ia64 is for Xeons, you probably want amd64. |
| 22:33.59 | berceanu_ | centrx: im going from aurora to beta |
| 22:34.10 | berceanu_ | yes, aurora = alpha |
| 22:34.11 | jhutchins | Eryn_1983_Fl: Did you check the md5sum of the iso? |
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| 22:34.24 | centrx | berceanu_, Are you using this command: apt-get install -t wheezy-backports iceweasel |
| 22:34.33 | berceanu_ | centrx: yup |
| 22:34.35 | centrx | berceanu_, The -t specifies the release should be used for all dependencies |
| 22:34.38 | centrx | hmm |
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| 22:35.07 | Eryn_1983_Fl | ok i think my usb drives are not dd right |
| 22:35.07 | centrx | berceanu_, Maybe the aurora version of xulrunner is still installed? |
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| 22:35.24 | berceanu_ | centrx: how do i check? |
| 22:35.30 | centrx | berceanu_, dpkg -l |grep xulrunner |
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| 22:36.08 | jhutchins | Eryn_1983_Fl: dd if=iso of=/dev/sr0 |
| 22:36.09 | berceanu_ | centrx: i have 3 versions of that installed! |
| 22:36.22 | berceanu_ | centrx: 17.0, 24.0 and 29 |
| 22:36.49 | centrx | berceanu_, Okay, uninstall all of them :) |
| 22:36.54 | berceanu_ | centrx: so since the one it wants to install is 28, maybe thats why it complains? |
| 22:36.57 | zykotick9 | notes, dpkg -l output shows removed packages as well... |
| 22:37.03 | centrx | berceanu_, Sounds right |
| 22:37.19 | centrx | berceanu_, zykotick9 makes a good point, it is only installed if it has "ii" next to it in dpkg -l |
| 22:37.25 | berceanu_ | zykotick9: yes but if their status is ii |
| 22:37.32 | berceanu_ | zykotick9: that means installed right? |
| 22:37.38 | zykotick9 | berceanu_: yes |
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| 22:37.54 | jhutchins | Eryn_1983_Fl: Not sure why, but cat used to be the recommended method. |
| 22:38.01 | berceanu_ | centrx: ok, so is there a command to uninstall all 3 of them at once? |
| 22:38.18 | centrx | berceanu_, You can put them all on the same line with dpkg --purge |
| 22:39.03 | val_erie | I have a newly installed wheezy. The problem is that df -h is showing the rootfs is used 100%. Also my right-click properties on /proc directory shows 140.7 TB . So I haave no free space for some reason . What can be done ? |
| 22:39.06 | themill | just asking aptitude to figure it out with aptitude install iceweasel=versionyouwant has a reasonable chance of working |
| 22:40.01 | centrx | val_erie, rootfs is a special filesystem for booting I believe? And /proc is also a special filesystem, so your "right-click properties" may not be correct |
| 22:40.45 | centrx | Maybe not, rootfs is for LLVM> |
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| 22:40.57 | centrx | err encrypted LVM rather |
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| 22:43.07 | zykotick9 | centrx: i use encrypted lvm, but "mount | grep rootfs" returns nothin' here? |
| 22:43.22 | val_erie | centrx, what can be taking all 1.7 TB of hard disk in a newly installed wheezy. I am kind of puzzled |
| 22:44.45 | jhutchins | val_erie: You can check the filesystem - might be a glitch. |
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| 22:44.58 | jhutchins | val_erie: That is not a normal outcome. |
| 22:45.11 | jhutchins | val_erie: What filesystem? ext4? |
| 22:45.15 | themill | val_erie: perhaps you could pastebin the output of "df -h" |
| 22:45.18 | themill | jhutchins: /proc ... |
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| 22:45.40 | skraito-0x71 | wanna be Our AstaraOS developer |
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| 22:46.28 | berceanu_ | centrx: still no luck. i gave up on the beta by now, and just want the latest stable release |
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| 22:46.44 | berceanu_ | centrx: so i put iceweasel-release in my sources.list |
| 22:46.50 | berceanu_ | centrx: still get iceweasel : Depends: xulrunner-27 (= 27.0.1-1~bpo70+1) but it is not going to be installed |
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| 22:47.25 | berceanu_ | centrx: even if dpkg -l |grep xulrunner doesnt return anything now |
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| 22:49.26 | Eryn_1983_Fl | jhutchins: its a celeron what do i use? i386? |
| 22:49.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eryn_1983_Fl: "a Celeron" isn't very specific |
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| 22:50.09 | Eryn_1983_Fl | looking... |
| 22:50.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | There are both 32bit and 64bit Celerons. |
| 22:50.15 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or were. |
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| 22:50.52 | Eryn_1983_Fl | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007L5XWN4/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
| 22:50.55 | Eryn_1983_Fl | this is what i bought |
| 22:51.16 | centrx | berceanu_, Sorry, I'm back |
| 22:51.24 | Eryn_1983_Fl | dd if=/media/downloads/debian-7.4.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc oflag=direct |
| 22:51.25 | Eryn_1983_Fl | my cli |
| 22:51.33 | berceanu_ | centrx: np |
| 22:51.37 | berceanu_ | centrx: :) |
| 22:51.39 | centrx | berceanu_, You just want to find all the iceweasel-related packages that are installed and uninstall them basically |
| 22:52.21 | centrx | berceanu_, Did you see themill's suggestion about using aptitude with an exact version? |
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| 22:53.03 | themill | berceanu_: the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy iceweasel xulrunner\*" might be good to see |
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| 22:53.12 | berceanu_ | centrx: pff. by hand?! |
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| 22:53.33 | centrx | berceanu_, There aren't very many |
| 22:53.38 | airstrike | i know this is 50% off-topic, but i can't seem to import locales in python, although locale -a shows I have en_US and pt_BR installed. am I missing something on the debian side of things? |
| 22:53.41 | jhutchins | Eryn_1983_Fl: Never used oflag, but that should work correctly. md5sum? |
| 22:53.59 | centrx | berceanu_, with dpkg --purge you can just put them all on the smae line |
| 22:54.43 | jhutchins | Eryn_1983_Fl: http://ark.intel.com/products/59572/Intel-Celeron-Processor-857-2M-Cache-1_20-GHz <- says it's 64 bit. |
| 22:54.56 | jhutchins | Eryn_1983_Fl: So amd64 or i386. |
| 22:55.06 | centrx | berceanu_, If you add the xulrunner-27 to the apt-get install line does it work? |
| 22:55.46 | centrx | berceanu_, I am sure there is a fancier way to do this, but I don't know it. You can add any more packages to apt-get install you need and remove any with dpkg --purge |
| 22:55.56 | val_erie | jhutchins, themill , http://paste.debian.net/84083/ |
| 22:55.56 | BugBite | airstrike try; export LC_ALL="your locale" and then try python again. |
| 22:56.05 | centrx | berceanu_, You might also have some setting in apt-cache policy that is telling apt not to install these versions of the package/from this repository |
| 22:56.22 | berceanu_ | themill: https://infotomb.com/hd4u7/97517a1fa5a96f5b7f4bf199251874b6337083947cb2c3872f82b8e31b7b4f20 |
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| 22:58.57 | berceanu_ | themill: and the output of the apt-cache policy: https://infotomb.com/we8gs/e84f3cca6c4029c21e732085acf6a99dd4f92150a324d7209e3881bbba6092f3 |
| 23:00.04 | themill | berceanu_: yeah, aptitude should be able to sort that out |
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| 23:00.38 | berceanu_ | themill: sort it out how exactly? |
| 23:00.58 | berceanu_ | themill: i think i missed the part about aptitude |
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| 23:02.55 | themill | berceanu_: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install iceweasel=27.0.1-1~bpo70+1» |
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| 23:04.46 | berceanu_ | themill: it *almost* worked :) now it complains about zotero -> https://infotomb.com/z24ev/3ebe6287651d3ea0ebe697ffeaa915a27fbd103111085e9efaa8f8e77bd98233 |
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| 23:05.06 | eean | amd64 wheezy system, setting it up to build i386 stuff. |
| 23:05.14 | eean | ld can't find stuff that's in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ by default |
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| 23:05.43 | eean | how do I add stuff to the default .so find path for building? |
| 23:05.47 | eean | it's on the runtime |
| 23:05.50 | Eryn_1983_Fl | ok |
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| 23:06.03 | Eryn_1983_Fl | but its a celeron and thats Intel??!?!?! |
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| 23:08.01 | themill | berceanu_: just add xulrunner-24.0 to that install line then |
| 23:08.39 | berceanu_ | themill: so i will end up with 2 separate versions of xulrunner :( |
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| 23:09.13 | Eryn_1983_Fl | ok i answered by question amd64 FML |
| 23:09.37 | centrx | berceanu_, If you have packages that depend on some specific thing in iceweasel |
| 23:09.51 | centrx | berceanu_, Usually the mozilla.debian.net packages work fine because nothing really depends on iceweasel |
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| 23:10.15 | themill | berceanu_: yes |
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| 23:10.33 | berceanu_ | centrx: yeah, zotero apparently depends on specific iceweasel libs |
| 23:10.42 | berceanu_ | themill: so this will not be a problem? |
| 23:12.22 | themill | berceanu_: not unless you can't afford a little disk space |
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| 23:15.17 | airstrike | BugBite: still not working |
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| 23:20.47 | BugBite | airstrike i do not know any ather solution |
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| 23:30.37 | val_erie | jhutchins, root has xfs filesystem and /boot has ext4. I did send paste 30 min ago with df -h, lsblk, and blkd output Here it is again: http://paste.debian.net/84083/ |
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| 23:33.36 | eean | ugh, how do I install the development .so files for both i386 and amd64 for a given package? |
| 23:33.40 | eean | it is impossible? |
| 23:33.56 | eean | on wheezy, all the -dev packages from i386 and amd64 seem to conflict with each other |
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| 23:35.29 | Nik05 | probably because they dont support multiarch? |
| 23:35.36 | eean | so... |
| 23:35.46 | Nik05 | well thats the problem :P |
| 23:35.49 | eean | :/ |
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| 23:36.04 | eean | debian 6 didn't have this problem, even if it was a total hack. it worked :) |
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| 23:36.47 | Nik05 | maybe you can hack this too |
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| 23:37.14 | Nik05 | or someone knows what to do :) |
| 23:37.22 | eean | well yea I can make symbolic links |
| 23:37.33 | eean | but like libicu has 8 libraries |
| 23:37.37 | eean | boooring |
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| 23:42.21 | thowe | Is there a java plugin for iceweasel? |
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| 23:44.06 | centrx | thowe, Maybe icedtea-7-plugin ? |
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