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| 00:07.16 | esulu | hello all i have one problem with mysql , can you help me please, my problem is it :http://paste.debian.net/84092/ |
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| 00:07.51 | centrx | esulu, It it running? |
| 00:07.55 | themill | sounds like mysql isn't running |
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| 00:09.33 | esulu | centrx: /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 00:09.35 | esulu | is ok |
| 00:10.22 | esulu | http://paste.debian.net/84093/ |
| 00:11.31 | abrotman | bets you could google that error |
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| 00:16.04 | esulu | centrx: any solution |
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| 00:16.27 | cafuego | use the correct socket file, IF mysql is in fact running. |
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| 00:17.06 | cafuego | no, you do not just pm me. |
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| 00:17.24 | esulu | cafuego: |
| 00:17.27 | esulu | ok |
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| 00:17.33 | esulu | can you repete me please |
| 00:17.47 | cafuego | 1) Check that mysql is running using the 'ps' command. |
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| 00:18.11 | cafuego | 2) If it is running, check that there is a socket file in /var/run/mysqld |
| 00:18.12 | abrotman | pete and repete |
| 00:18.34 | cafuego | 3) If not, look at the logs(/var/log/syslog) and see why it failed to start. |
| 00:18.53 | poolson | hey folks looking for a bit of help to config exim ... when trying to forward mail i ge these errors saying network is unreachable. from reading around its suggested to turn off ipv6 in exim config ... i tried to make some changes to update-exim4.conf.conf but those changes dont seem to get into the autogenerated config that exim uses |
| 00:18.57 | poolson | pulling my hair out |
| 00:19.00 | poolson | any help ? :) |
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| 00:19.21 | esulu | cafuego: http://paste.debian.net/84094/ |
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| 00:20.16 | abrotman | poolson: does your system have an IPv6 address? |
| 00:20.44 | poolson | it does indeed |
| 00:20.58 | poolson | maybe i can just disable ipv6 on the interface ? |
| 00:21.11 | cafuego | notes postfix |
| 00:21.51 | abrotman | poolson: does your hosting company support IPv6 fully? |
| 00:21.53 | Dagger | does it have any v6 addresses that aren't fe80:: or ::1? |
| 00:22.10 | poolson | nope |
| 00:22.16 | poolson | just a single fe80 |
| 00:22.45 | Dagger | then exim should be getting A records first and AAAA records second |
| 00:22.54 | abrotman | did you drop the 2? |
| 00:22.55 | Dagger | so it should only try the AAAA records if it can't connect to the v4 IPs first |
| 00:23.04 | poolson | ah seems thats a local one |
| 00:23.04 | poolson | heh |
| 00:23.08 | abrotman | poolson: can you put the exim error in a pastebin? |
| 00:23.16 | poolson | yah |
| 00:27.47 | poolson | http://pastebin.com/dJBXmf4E |
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| 00:29.14 | abrotman | but the mail gets delivered eventually? |
| 00:29.55 | esulu | cafuego: http://paste.debian.net/84097/ |
| 00:30.32 | poolson | actually i just tested with another email address |
| 00:30.36 | poolson | got delivered |
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| 00:30.46 | poolson | so prolly something to do with how mx is setup on other domain etc |
| 00:30.48 | poolson | oops :) |
| 00:31.00 | poolson | thought it seemed a bit odd ! |
| 00:31.09 | cafuego | esulu: Netrw directory listing? |
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| 00:39.16 | miseria | "tiempo: dime el dia de mi transformacion, quiero tener mi libertad, viajar felizmente, sin ser esclavo de la muerte" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival* |
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| 00:51.44 | x0carry0n | Good, colleagues, friends, I need your help debian wheezy on a laptop sony vaio sve141d11u which your camera does not work 3.2.0-4-amd64 # 1 SMP x86_64 3.2.51-1 Debian GNU / Linux |
| 00:51.50 | x0carry0n | Additional data http://goo.gl/LRXyE2 please help and have time with this problem ... |
| 00:51.57 | tharkun | !tell miseria es |
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| 00:53.25 | abrotman | tharkun: seriously? it was a spammer |
| 00:53.48 | tharkun | abrotman: well I'm kind of slow today ;P |
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| 00:54.46 | tharkun | anyway I'm having some isues with google. It is displaying everything in french yet I want it to work in English. I was given a link here once. that performed just that. Anyone? |
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| 00:55.41 | poppy | installing debian 7.1 DVD ISO, need wifi. I have an "external disk" with the driver, but it's not automounting, and busybox mount insists "No such device" despite entries in /dev/disk/by-*. How do I get wifi (realtek) working for install? |
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| 00:58.16 | poppy | tharkun: add ?hl=en (or &hl=en if there are already params) to the end of the URL |
| 00:59.19 | Tramp | https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en |
| 01:00.49 | smrtz|nix | Hey, I'm following bspwm for dummies, and when it says add this line to path, "export PANEL_FIFO="/tmp/panel-fifo"" do I just append that line to the end of my /etc/profile? |
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| 01:14.01 | poppy | Simpler: How do i get wifi working during a debian install? |
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| 01:16.56 | poppy | Or: How do I mount a FAT32 USB disk during install if ``mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt`` fails? |
| 01:18.00 | tharkun | poppy: Thanks That did the trick I REALLY APRECIATE IT. It was driving me mad! |
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| 01:18.15 | poppy | tharkun: you're welcome |
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| 01:26.25 | N34lO | can someone explain why if i add two IPs to one interface i can ping the first one but not the second? |
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| 01:41.07 | tharkun | N34lO: What does ip addr list say? |
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| 01:42.45 | N34lO | "inet [...].7/27 [...] global eth0" "inet [...].8/27 [...] global secondary eth0:1" |
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| 01:43.29 | N34lO | tharkun: |
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| 01:45.07 | tharkun | N34lO: Sorry I can't work with obfuscated information. Specially when it is crucial to solving an isue. And second but most important is that I need to leave at this moment. |
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| 01:46.18 | esulu | i have this problem with installation of mysql in debian |
| 01:46.44 | wcmckee | hello |
| 01:46.45 | esulu | update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header |
| 01:46.45 | esulu | dpkg: errore nell'elaborare mysql-server-5.5 (--configure): |
| 01:46.45 | esulu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.45 | dpkg | esulu: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 01:46.48 | esulu | dpkg: problemi con le dipendenze impediscono la configurazione di mysql-server: |
| 01:46.48 | dpkg | esulu: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 01:46.51 | esulu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.53 | esulu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.56 | esulu | dpkg: errore nell'elaborare mysql-server (--configure): |
| 01:46.56 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, esulu |
| 01:46.58 | esulu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.01 | esulu | Si sono verificati degli errori nell'elaborazione: |
| 01:47.03 | esulu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.06 | esulu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.06 | N34lO | tharkun: well i don't like posting public ips here ok ... could have left the scope in and the "brd [...].31" |
| 01:47.08 | esulu | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 01:47.11 | esulu | sorry |
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| 01:47.39 | esulu | http://paste.debian.net/84105/ |
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| 02:00.53 | linuxuz3r | hi |
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| 02:01.04 | linuxuz3r | how do i make a debian usb bootable |
| 02:01.14 | abrotman | like every other distro |
| 02:01.36 | mdel | google! http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 02:02.59 | poppy | linuxuz3r: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 02:04.26 | linuxuz3r | well i need an installable bootable debian iso usb |
| 02:04.31 | linuxuz3r | not just that |
| 02:04.59 | themill | dpkg: tell linuxuz3r about netinst |
| 02:05.13 | themill | linuxuz3r: all the installer images are bootable |
| 02:05.18 | poppy | linuxuz3r: those instructions are to create installation media of any kind to USB. What do you need beyond that? |
| 02:05.49 | linuxuz3r | poppy, is there an automatic way of doing it |
| 02:06.24 | Scar3cr0w | I'm confused as well |
| 02:06.27 | themill | what, one that doesn't actually involve doing anything? |
| 02:06.57 | poppy | linuxuz3r: cp is pretty direct, it's one command. Also I've discovered that unetbootin doesn't appear to work anymore, for me anyway |
| 02:07.29 | abrotman | it rarely ever did |
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| 02:07.51 | linuxuz3r | yeah i tried unetbootin in ubuntu |
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| 02:07.57 | poppy | linuxuz3r: if you are using another OS, any general guide to creating a boot USB from an ISO should work with the debian ISO |
| 02:07.58 | abrotman | This is #debian, not related |
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| 02:08.10 | linuxuz3r | poppy ok |
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| 02:08.16 | Scar3cr0w | http://rufus.akeo.ie/ |
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| 02:08.48 | mdel | i always use the dd method, its foolproof (well unless you pick the wrong device!) |
| 02:08.50 | poppy | abrotman: cool tolerance you got there |
| 02:09.16 | abrotman | cool attitdue you got there ... |
| 02:09.19 | mdel | dd if=/path/to/debian.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8192 |
| 02:09.36 | mdel | you are both cool, it's ok :| |
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| 02:09.49 | Scar3cr0w | Damn I'm COOL! |
| 02:10.08 | mdel | you are! we are all special and cool! |
| 02:10.16 | Scar3cr0w | hugs the room |
| 02:10.21 | centrx | ahhh get off me |
| 02:10.26 | Scar3cr0w | :) |
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| 02:11.17 | themill | Scar3cr0w: btw from the description of rufus it makes the same mistakes as unetbootin: it tries to turn an ISO image into a bootable image when all it needs to do is copy the image to the device (it's already a bootable image) |
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| 02:11.46 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Scar3cr0w about win32diskimager |
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| 02:12.16 | poppy | abrotman: i'm sorry for not being direct. Giving a bad attitude to people asking for help (no matter how informed the questioner is or is not) harms discussion. Telling someone they are off-topic at the first mention of ubuntu is not constructive. |
| 02:12.20 | Scar3cr0w | good catch themill @abrotman I know about that as well, big rpi fan |
| 02:12.24 | mdel | themill: true, but that's only because recently hybrid ISOs are all the rage |
| 02:12.33 | themill | mdel: this isn't recent |
| 02:12.47 | mdel | i mean, relatively speaking. it is |
| 02:13.15 | abrotman | poppy: Good for you. Ubuntu is offtopic here, end of discussion. Have a nice day. |
| 02:13.33 | abrotman | Scar3cr0w: just that we've had better luck with win32diskimager |
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| 02:13.50 | mdel | abrotman: easy bruh, it was about unetbootin, not ubuntu |
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| 02:14.10 | abrotman | I can read .. |
| 02:14.13 | themill | mdel: much older than these tools that don't do this correctly though. |
| 02:15.00 | mdel | themill: that is indeed true, but again not every ISO is hybrid... people just think they need tools like unetbootin |
| 02:15.14 | mdel | it's existence is still valid, just not useful in most cases |
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| 02:15.24 | smrtz|nix | Anyone here running bspwm? |
| 02:15.25 | abrotman | mdel: And that's the fault of that website to pretend it is actually functional |
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| 02:20.56 | kdeder | can I get some advice? |
| 02:21.20 | mdel | probably |
| 02:21.47 | mdel | assuming it's not about your love life or like which car you should buy |
| 02:21.56 | centrx | kdeder, Those are some nice shoes |
| 02:21.59 | kdeder | I have an old nvidia card and I seemed to upgrade the driver past the supported version... I booted the OS to a shell since xserver gave the error screen |
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| 02:22.29 | kdeder | fatal screen error, no screens found - so I removed the xorg.conf file.... now I can boot |
| 02:23.00 | kdeder | but, I'm not sure what to do to clean the system... it looks like I have packages of both driver versions? |
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| 02:23.14 | kdeder | mdel: nope ;) |
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| 02:23.34 | mdel | kdeder: use apt to purge the incorrect packages, and either reinstall or reconfigure the correct one? |
| 02:23.42 | kdeder | I've installed nvidia drivers before and also messed around with config files |
| 02:23.52 | kdeder | but, my stupid card is only supported up to a certain version number |
| 02:23.56 | abrotman | How old is the card? Should you be using the nvidia binary drivers at all? |
| 02:24.11 | kdeder | abrotman: old - 7950gt |
| 02:24.20 | kdeder | I want a new card but can't get one yet ;) |
| 02:24.35 | kdeder | I think I can the binary 304.xx - but that's it? |
| 02:24.41 | linuxuz3r | kdeder, what card are you planning to get |
| 02:24.43 | kdeder | *use* |
| 02:24.58 | kdeder | linuxuz3r: dunno... any advice? |
| 02:25.21 | kdeder | maybe 650ti if nvidia but amd cards foss driver is probably less trouble? :) |
| 02:25.48 | poppy | kdeder: that's a tough call, i think the 6000 series is last supported with 304, and newer should be in current, but I might be remembering the cutoff incorrectly |
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| 02:26.09 | kdeder | mdel: I'll read up about purging... I'm not familiar with doing that really :) |
| 02:26.28 | mdel | apt-get purge <package> |
| 02:26.42 | kdeder | oh, I think the kernel ver might be a factor too? or am I wrong? |
| 02:26.44 | abrotman | it sounds like he used the debian package and the .run ? |
| 02:26.44 | poppy | kdeder: instead of "apt-get remove" you use "apt-get purge", it's identical otherwise |
| 02:26.54 | mdel | *should* remove all traces of the incorrect package, including config and other crap |
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| 02:27.00 | mdel | "remove" wont do tha |
| 02:27.01 | kdeder | okay, thanks |
| 02:27.01 | mdel | t |
| 02:27.08 | kdeder | yeah, that looks familiar |
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| 02:27.40 | kdeder | I think the nouveau driver was conflicting, too... not sure |
| 02:27.43 | linuxuz3r | kdeder, ok |
| 02:28.11 | kdeder | I accidentally installed ver. 331 packages, though.... doh! |
| 02:29.46 | kdeder | 304.1190 is the latest I can use - I think |
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| 02:30.51 | k-man | would preseed formats change from version to version of debian, requiring you to update the preseed? the reason i ask is my preseed i made a year or so ago, seems to fail when i try and use it with 7.3 |
| 02:32.10 | abrotman | k-man: using which version previously? the qusetion may hvae changed |
| 02:32.36 | kdeder | thanks for your replies, guys :) |
| 02:32.53 | k-man | abrotman, it says at the top of the preseed file that its for wheezy |
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| 03:29.25 | centrx | Is there a lightweight SVG viewer? |
| 03:30.37 | abrotman | vi? |
| 03:30.56 | abrotman | Other than the browser you already have installed? |
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| 03:32.34 | centrx | web browser! of course! |
| 03:32.36 | centrx | Thank you |
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| 03:34.37 | abrotman | is that sarcasm? |
| 03:34.45 | abrotman | the smellovision is broken |
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| 03:36.47 | centrx | I am serious. I hadn't thought of that |
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| 03:38.49 | abrotman | Not all browsers are created equal relating to SVG |
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| 03:42.59 | mdel | is there some way to make gtk2 apps not look crappy in gnome 3? |
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| 03:45.30 | abrotman | close your eyes and pretend? |
| 03:45.34 | abrotman | mdel: which apps are you using? |
| 03:45.51 | mdel | chrome and sublime text, in particular |
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| 03:46.03 | abrotman | Did you try mucking with the gtk2 theme? |
| 03:46.06 | mdel | it seems like they are both written for gtk2 |
| 03:46.16 | abrotman | judd: depends chromium-browser |
| 03:46.17 | judd | Package chromium-browser in wheezy/i386 -- depends: chromium (>= 10). |
| 03:46.21 | abrotman | judd: depends chromium |
| 03:46.22 | judd | Package chromium in wheezy/i386 -- depends: gconf-service, libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.11), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), libcups2 (>= 1.4.0), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.14), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.9), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgconf-2-4 (>= 2.31.1), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.26.0), libgnome-keyring0 (>= |
| 03:46.23 | judd | 2.22.2), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libjpeg8 (>= 8c), libnspr4 (>= 2:4.9-2~), libnss3 (>= 2:3.14.3), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.22.0), libspeechd2, libspeex1 (>= 1.2~beta3-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), libudev0 (>= 146), libx11-6 (>= 2:1.4.99.1), libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxi6 (>= 2:1.2.99.4), libxml2 (>= 2.7.4), libxrender1, libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.25), libxss1, libxtst6, xdg-utils, (1 more message) |
| 03:46.24 | abrotman | PITA |
| 03:46.53 | dvs | only? |
| 03:47.03 | mdel | nah I didn't change anything with gtk2, just added a new gnome shell and gtk3 theme, noticed how much worse the gtk2 apps look |
| 03:47.11 | mdel | they also don't use the "dark" mode |
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| 03:54.14 | LoneStar99 | anyone using quotas on debian? |
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| 03:58.37 | abrotman | no one at all |
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| 03:59.00 | centrx | I was told that was illegal |
| 03:59.20 | dvs | heh |
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| 04:21.26 | aphoriser | Hey guys how can I disable power-deamon on Wheezy with gnome? - I've tried disabling "cpufrequtils" but I'm still on "ondemand" |
| 04:21.58 | aphoriser | Would like fixed / permanent performance |
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| 04:23.10 | melt7777 | hey guys quick network diag question, if i get "eth0: link up" in varlogmsgs, but never "link becomes ready" and the eth0 iface never works, whats your first place to look? |
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| 04:23.58 | melt7777 | screen: http://i.imgur.com/DWujUs5.jpg |
| 04:24.20 | centrx | aphoriser, Use cpufreq-set to change the governor ? |
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| 04:24.44 | rjsalts | melt7777: firmware loaded? bad ethernet cable? faulty switchport? |
| 04:24.59 | melt7777 | cable and port tested known good |
| 04:25.33 | melt7777 | firmware needed for RTL8168b/8111b on-mobo nic? |
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| 04:27.10 | rjsalts | melt7777: in the OS kernel |
| 04:27.50 | rjsalts | melt7777: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-realtek |
| 04:28.01 | melt7777 | so was gonna suggest he install that package but he has no netowrk :) |
| 04:28.20 | rjsalts | put it on a usb stick |
| 04:28.33 | rjsalts | use sneaker net to get it to him |
| 04:29.27 | melt7777 | yup i see that, i didnt realize u needed firmware for wired ethernet as well |
| 04:29.57 | melt7777 | Great thank you for your help |
| 04:29.58 | rjsalts | not for all of them |
| 04:30.19 | melt7777 | see if he can manage this one |
| 04:31.14 | melt7777 | ah, i see. i was on the right track. good money |
| 04:32.12 | melt7777 | i will now idle here 24/7 to absorb more information |
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| 04:40.54 | smrtz | I'm trying to install weechat, but the one in the repos is way out of date, where how can I install the up-to-date one? |
| 04:41.38 | themill | dpkg: tell smrtz about wheezy-backports |
| 04:41.40 | Nnel | Quick question, if I install something with a load of dependencies I don't need for anything else.. will they be uninstalled too if I uninstall the package after trying it out? |
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| 04:43.17 | awfabian | Nnel: If you use the "aptitude" command, yes. If you use "apt-get", no. Not sure about synaptic or other package managers. |
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| 04:44.36 | awfabian | s/apt-get/aptitude/g ... the change never really seemed to take in the community at large and the documentation, with the entrenched use of apt-get, but I think apt-get was supposed to be deprecated in favor of aptitude some years ago. |
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| 04:45.56 | Nnel | awfabian: okay, I'll give it a whirl, thanks :) |
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| 05:05.07 | taulus | Do I need to install Debian 7 wheezy with the default gnome 3 desktop before I can use the LXDE desktop or is there an LXDE specific version I should download? |
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| 05:07.05 | dechapman | taulus: Do you need gnome for something? Just apt-get / aptitude install lxde.. |
| 05:07.52 | taulus | Nope no need to have the gnome desktop, trying to save resources on a net book. |
| 05:08.02 | dechapman | Gnome and lxde are separate things. :) |
| 05:10.06 | taulus | I have already installed wheezy but with the gnome 3 desktop, so apt get install lxde is all I need to do? |
| 05:10.49 | dechapman | Yes, and then you can get rid of gnome if you want to free up space. |
| 05:10.58 | taulus | :) |
| 05:11.13 | taulus | Thanks I will follow the instructins on the website. |
| 05:11.20 | centrx | taulus, And uninstall Gnome to save disk space and simplify things |
| 05:11.33 | taulus | :) |
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| 05:37.16 | smrtz | Can someone help me figure out how to install a more resent version of weechat then what's in the repo please? I think I need to backport it? |
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| 05:37.29 | smrtz | Someone linked it to me earlier, but I lost the session... |
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| 05:37.45 | themill | dpkg: tell smrtz about wheezy-backports |
| 05:37.54 | themill | you don't need to backport it, you need to install it from backport |
| 05:37.55 | themill | s |
| 05:38.22 | smrtz | themill: so I need to add wheezy-backports to my souces.list right? |
| 05:38.42 | themill | yes. what dpkg just said |
| 05:41.34 | smrtz | themill: I just added the line to my sources.list, and ran an apt-get update and I'm getting a Failed to fetch error. |
| 05:41.58 | themill | the whole thing in a pastebin along with your sources.list, plase |
| 05:42.24 | smrtz | themill: sec. |
| 05:43.51 | smrtz | themill: http://pastebin.com/Qhf7ECAe |
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| 05:44.23 | themill | smrtz: that's not what dpkg told you to use in your sources.list though |
| 05:44.47 | smrtz | it isn't? |
| 05:44.55 | themill | no |
| 05:45.22 | smrtz | themill: was it saying to replace the line right after "# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'"? |
| 05:45.32 | themill | no |
| 05:45.58 | themill | You need to add the line dpkg gave you into your sources.list |
| 05:46.05 | smrtz | I am... |
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| 05:46.33 | smrtz | I copy and pasted it... |
| 05:46.41 | crap | whazzup nerds |
| 05:46.55 | themill | smrtz: well «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main» and «deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates wheezy-backports main» don't look the same to me |
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| 05:47.37 | smrtz | themill: wtf? whatever, thanks for catching that.. |
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| 05:49.45 | smrtz | themill: Ok, now that I've updated, how can I specify that I want to install the backport of a specific package? |
| 05:50.19 | themill | smrtz: aptitude -t wheezy-backports install weechat |
| 05:50.26 | smrtz | thanks! |
| 05:51.02 | smrtz | themill: yep, that's it. thanks. |
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| 05:53.33 | hanasaki | running xbmc debian in a kvm virtual machine... any thougths as to why the mouse in xbmc doesn't work at all? works fine in the vm before starting xbmc |
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| 06:07.38 | Abd_Allatif | Hi, I am going to buy a new laptop from HP, it is HP pavilion 15-n009se. does it support Linux without problems? http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03944336&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en |
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| 06:10.36 | peterrooney | !cross post |
| 06:10.36 | dpkg | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
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| 06:14.09 | Abd_Allatif | is sorry about that |
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| 06:19.42 | fer755 | anybody know some over the command whatis ?? i run a little script and ever write 'nothing apropiate', even filtering with grep that phrase. |
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| 06:20.42 | fer755 | like ls | xargs whatis | grep -v 'nothing appropiate' |
| 06:21.03 | themill | 'nothing appropriate' is on stderr not stdout |
| 06:22.54 | centrx | Does popularity-contest still require an MTA to send statistics? |
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| 06:23.28 | fer755 | themill, ok whatis dont print anything and the scripts tell error correctly over stderr |
| 06:23.52 | themill | centrx: no |
| 06:24.10 | centrx | hmm |
| 06:24.12 | centrx | Let's fire it up then |
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| 07:21.42 | rabbitear_sdf | berceanu: switched from Arch to Wheezy today |
| 07:21.49 | rabbitear_sdf | berceanu: sure it will be fine |
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| 07:51.42 | yeyeman | I'm trying to ssh to a qemu machine on my computer, but I get permission denied, any ideas? |
| 07:52.07 | yeyeman | it works the other way, the virtual machine can ssh to the real os |
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| 08:15.33 | towski_ | how do I get debian/gnome to stop trying to access my ipod |
| 08:15.43 | towski_ | also stop popping up a dialogue when I plug in my android |
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| 08:16.55 | mintgreen | the windows opens aligned to the left in gnome.how to get it aligned to the centre of screen? |
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| 08:18.07 | aborrero | r |
| 08:18.36 | towski_ | whoa gnome extensions |
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| 08:25.21 | x3_iVaN | pfote: less /var/log/apt/history (or something like this) |
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| 08:39.14 | blast_hardcheese | Having some issues with mdadm + lvm2 and grub. I used debootstrap from ubuntu, booted directly off grub I had on a thumbdrive... |
| 08:39.59 | blast_hardcheese | now I'm fully booted into my new debian partition on this machine, but when I install grub2 I get "path /boot/grub' is not readable by grub on boot. installation is impossible. aborting." |
| 08:40.19 | blast_hardcheese | /boot/grub is RAID1, and is mounted during setup. |
| 08:41.05 | blast_hardcheese | It's possible that the issue is I'm using the filesystem ID in /etc/fstab instead of specifying the path, but I'm really out of my depth here |
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| 08:48.02 | maxyz | blast_hardcheese: /boot or just /boot/grub ? |
| 08:48.34 | blast_hardcheese | maxyz: I just figured out what the first part of the problem was, when I attempted to install mdadm that failed |
| 08:48.52 | blast_hardcheese | Now I'm getting grub-probe warning: "Couldn't find physical volume (null)' |
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| 08:50.02 | blast_hardcheese | What creates the device map in grub2 |
| 08:50.03 | blast_hardcheese | ? |
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| 08:51.24 | blast_hardcheese | Googling around suggests that error isn't fatal, further googling suggested grub-mkdevicemap (not sure why it wasn't getting run during install) |
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| 08:51.32 | blast_hardcheese | now update-grub doesn't give any errors. |
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| 08:51.42 | blast_hardcheese | Hopefully this means I can restart without having to do this dance anymore |
| 08:52.38 | blast_hardcheese | I still do get the warning: "Couldn't find physical volume (null). Some modules may be missing from core image.." |
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| 08:58.06 | blast_hardcheese | Fortunately the system boots though! Thanks maxyz! |
| 08:58.28 | blast_hardcheese | It feels good to finally get ubuntu off this machine, it was driving me nuts. |
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| 09:04.39 | babilen | blast_hardcheese: Wait, you had to run "grub-mkdevicemap" manually before update-grub2 and grub-install worked ? |
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| 09:05.12 | danialr | how can i check a package is installed or not i use dpkg-query -l lftp it return result but when i enter lftp it said The program 'lftp' is currently not installed. |
| 09:05.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell danialr about installed test |
| 09:06.11 | blast_hardcheese | babilen: Yes, I did |
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| 09:07.06 | blast_hardcheese | I had purged grub2 and grub-pc, then reinstalled grub2. During the purge, I said "remove /boot/grub" (but there was always stuff left behind, so I rm -r /boot/grub myself) |
| 09:07.30 | babilen | blast_hardcheese: It should be run by grub-install, so if you tried "update-grub2" with a broken/missing devicemap before performing that I am not too surprised. |
| 09:07.51 | blast_hardcheese | when I reinstalled grub2 it prompted me to install on my drives, I would get a bunch of warnings before it succeeded. |
| 09:08.06 | blast_hardcheese | manually running grub-install /dev/sda would give me the same warnings |
| 09:08.14 | blast_hardcheese | update-grub2 would give me the same warnings as well |
| 09:08.30 | blast_hardcheese | The warnings only stopped when I grub-mkdevicemap'd |
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| 09:09.36 | babilen | blast_hardcheese: udpate-grub2 gave you these warnings *after* running grub-install ? |
| 09:09.54 | blast_hardcheese | Everything gave me warnings |
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| 09:12.19 | babilen | Oh, I was mistaken. grub-mkdevicemap is not being run by grub-install; I wonder how it is initially generated. |
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| 09:12.32 | babilen | blast_hardcheese: Thanks for elaborating |
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| 09:15.04 | blast_hardcheese | According to dpkg database, grub-pc's postinst makes the devicemap |
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| 09:15.57 | blast_hardcheese | @ babilen |
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| 09:18.36 | redsn0w_ | Hello guys I am trying to install debian by jessie virtualbox and when arrives at the apt setting of it hangs, I noticed that my internet connection is ok, it is set at the beginning of the installation everything right and still he gets caught, someone has any solution |
| 09:18.50 | blast_hardcheese | redsn0w_: How long do you wait? |
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| 09:19.02 | tx0h | hello |
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| 09:19.17 | babilen | redsn0w_: Which image do you use for the installation? |
| 09:19.18 | redsn0w_ | 20 mins blast_hardcheese |
| 09:19.24 | blast_hardcheese | I've noticed pretty solid disk activity in virtualbox on my mac |
| 09:19.29 | blast_hardcheese | redsn0w_: oh, not that long, disregard. |
| 09:19.43 | tx0h | is there already a decision made about the future of ffmpeg vs libav? |
| 09:19.54 | babilen | redsn0w_: Anything interesting on tty4 (ALT-F4) |
| 09:20.09 | babilen | tx0h: I don't think so, but I haven't followed too closely |
| 09:20.46 | redsn0w_ | I'm using the official image downloaded from debian.org own site |
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| 09:20.59 | babilen | redsn0w_: Sure, but which one? |
| 09:20.59 | tx0h | babilen: i just hope to get things compiled which go with ffmpeg |
| 09:21.09 | tx0h | sighs |
| 09:21.23 | JIV | Hi, i have 2 debian 6 servers but time is different, ntp service is running but its not updating.. |
| 09:21.41 | blast_hardcheese | tx0h: You are trying to package things against ffmpeg? |
| 09:21.51 | redsn0w_ | babilen, debian-testing-amd64-i386-netinst.iso |
| 09:22.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell redsn0w_ about testing installer |
| 09:22.20 | blast_hardcheese | JIV: How far are they off? Could it be a different timezone? |
| 09:22.28 | tx0h | blast_hardcheese: nope, i just to get them on my own boxes (like slowmovideo and stuff) |
| 09:22.41 | JIV | blast_hardcheese: they are 43 sec apart, but time also doesnt match timezone |
| 09:22.52 | babilen | redsn0w_: Nobody really expects that installer to work at this point in the release cycle (but then: check tty4) |
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| 09:22.58 | blast_hardcheese | tx0h: I've been compiling my own libav for around two years now |
| 09:23.05 | blast_hardcheese | works for me (tm) :) |
| 09:23.17 | JIV | Wed Feb 26 16:21:54 CET 2014 while TZ is set to Europe/Prague |
| 09:23.25 | towski_ | how do I force downgrade a package from sid to jessie? |
| 09:23.39 | blast_hardcheese | JIV: That's frustrating. What does `service ntp status` show? |
| 09:23.58 | tx0h | blast_hardcheese: i will do the same now, but it's a mischmasch i really try to avoid. else i could go archlinux or gentoo |
| 09:24.01 | JIV | blast_hardcheese: NTP server is running. on both |
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| 09:24.47 | rjsalts | towski_: you'll have to select to install the package manually with apt-get install $package=$version or pin the priority of jessie sources above 1000 |
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| 09:24.50 | blast_hardcheese | tx0h: Or just package whatever you need so you are running the same stuff everywhere. |
| 09:25.12 | blast_hardcheese | tx0h: I'm starting to use docker to package things, it is working really well so far. |
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| 09:25.59 | tx0h | blast_hardcheese: in the end it's better for debian to listen to the community and go with the ffmpeg superset |
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| 09:26.43 | tx0h | libav is a fail, i read all the arguments in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729203 |
| 09:27.09 | rabbitear_sdf | cgminer is best left unsaid |
| 09:27.53 | towski_ | rjsalts: thanks |
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| 09:30.11 | blast_hardcheese | JIV: Not sure, I'm sorry :( |
| 09:30.36 | blast_hardcheese | I would say restart the ntp service just to see, (also make sure the machines are connected to the internet and have working DNS) |
| 09:30.42 | blast_hardcheese | but beyond that, I don't know |
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| 09:31.34 | JIV | 26 Feb 16:29:41 ntpdate[17329]: no server suitable for synchronization found |
| 09:31.44 | JIV | while executing: ntpdate -u 0.cz.pool.ntp.org |
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| 09:31.53 | JIV | i can ping that server fine.. |
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| 09:35.59 | jelly | JIV: ntpdate won't be able to work if there's a ntpd running |
| 09:36.56 | jelly | you don't really need ntpdate if you add -g option to ntpd startup (/etc/default/ntp) |
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| 09:37.13 | JIV | Stopping NTP server: ntpd. and then is print same error |
| 09:37.50 | JIV | that file contains: NTPD_OPTS='-g' |
| 09:38.39 | rabbitear_sdf | just testing |
| 09:38.42 | jelly | JIV: Works For Meâ„¢, http://paste.debian.net/84129/ |
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| 09:40.28 | iceisfun | whats the best stuff to use when setting up a linux iscsi target? |
| 09:40.37 | iceisfun | i see there are a number of packages out there |
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| 09:41.01 | jelly | JIV: check your firewall(s) to see if they pass udp/123 both inbound and outbound |
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| 09:44.29 | FeriKe | Hi, Is Cinnamon compatible with Debian 7.4 without any risk? |
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| 09:45.15 | nkuttler | FeriKe: define compatible |
| 09:45.28 | FeriKe | Not going to screw up my system |
| 09:45.42 | jelly | FeriKe: is it in Debian? |
| 09:45.52 | nkuttler | !cinnamon |
| 09:45.52 | dpkg | Cinnamon is a fork of <GNOME Shell> initially developed by the Linux Mint distribution. Packaged in <unstable>. http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ |
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| 09:46.01 | bezaban | it is only in sid, so no it is not guranteed to work with debian 7.4 |
| 09:46.04 | nkuttler | FeriKe: not, it will screw up your system |
| 09:46.06 | yeyeman | how do I create a new tab in the terminal? |
| 09:46.15 | FeriKe | I have to get a linuxmint reposo that's why i ask |
| 09:46.20 | nkuttler | yeyeman: depends on the terminal. normally you use screen or tmux |
| 09:46.27 | musca | and it's completly unusable in sid. |
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| 09:46.30 | jelly | FeriKe: there's no way to tell the bare minimum of package quality is present |
| 09:46.41 | FeriKe | okay |
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| 09:46.53 | petern_ | ctrl-shift-t, if it's gnome's terminal |
| 09:47.18 | FeriKe | I'm not gonna try then |
| 09:47.31 | yeyeman | I mean just the command line one gets without a desktop environment |
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| 09:48.07 | yeyeman | sorry I'm a noob, not very familiar with the terminology |
| 09:48.08 | nkuttler | yeyeman: depends on the terminal. normally you use screen or tmux |
| 09:48.46 | JIV | jelly: that will be probably issue, fw blocking it on gateway. |
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| 09:48.55 | BlackPanx | is there a way to force debian not to execute sysctl.conf BEFORE actually setting up networking... i have terrible issue that my sysctl rules are not being run at boot time, becouse it's still setting up bonding and vlans/bridges... it executes sysctl before waiting for networking to come up and therefore fail miserably when trying to set bond0 preferences... saying there is no such device etc |
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| 09:49.11 | petern_ | in a plain terminal without screen or tmux, you can switch terminal using alt-f1 to f6 |
| 09:49.24 | FeriKe | Is it possible to watch silverlight videos on debian without screw it up? |
| 09:49.25 | lexibq | Just installed a samsung 840 EVO to my x201 thinkpad. It won't detect.. any ideas guys? |
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| 09:49.32 | ntz | hello |
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| 09:49.34 | yeyeman | nkuttler, I don't understand what you mean |
| 09:49.39 | ntz | the module name in kernel is determined by filename, right ? i need to rebuild one kernel module (alx) and place it somewhere to /lib/modules/`uname -r` .. if I will name the filename my_alx.ko and run depmod -a, will that module be recognized in kernel as my_alx along with bundled alx already in kernel ? |
| 09:49.45 | bezaban | FeriKe: sadly no. |
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| 09:50.13 | FeriKe | hm |
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| 09:51.26 | frediz | Hi there, is there a source (git?) repo where one can find the content of all .debian.tar.gz ? |
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| 09:52.13 | bezaban | FeriKe: there is the monolight project, for which you might have luck with some older silverlight stuff, but for a lot of stuff microsofts silverlight will not work. This is a big issue for many sites that rely on silverlight. Many are hoping HTML5 will replace the need for it. |
| 09:53.05 | nkuttler | yeyeman: there are two packages/programs called screen and tmux that can provide tabs-like features inside a terminal |
| 09:53.05 | makubi^ | themill: hey, can I source files that are included in my package during postinst ? I would like to split the postinst file into several files and re-use functions in preinst / postinst / ... |
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| 10:00.40 | FeriKe | bezaban, Monolight didn't work for me. I compiled yesterday |
| 10:01.20 | bezaban | FeriKe: then you're out of luck with regards to silverlight |
| 10:01.46 | FeriKe | ye |
| 10:01.48 | FeriKe | s |
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| 10:17.05 | bezaban | ,v vagrant |
| 10:17.07 | judd | Package: vagrant on i386 -- wheezy: 1.0.3-1; jessie: 1.4.3-1; sid: 1.4.3-1 |
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| 10:20.38 | RoyK | hi all. Testing vmxnet3 as an e1000 alternative on a debian vm, I find the interrupt *always* sticks to cpu0 even if I set smp_affinity = 3. any idaes? See http://paste.debian.net/84132/ for details |
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| 10:31.07 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 10:31.29 | ShapeShifter499 | how do I get arrows on the scroll bars? |
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| 10:33.48 | lexibq | So, I got the ssd to detect. Installed stable fine, but on boot it gets stuck in a reboot loop after selecting in grub, at Loading....(reboot) |
| 10:33.52 | lexibq | any ideas? :/ |
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| 10:52.05 | cooldharma06 | hi all |
| 10:52.09 | lexibq | It won't even boot from an ubuntu lts usb (just tried for testing purposes) I have not a clue what could be going wrong here.. |
| 10:53.09 | cooldharma06 | i want to enable the dhcp in my system. i tried but it showing "Wrote 0 leases to leases file.Not configured to listen on any interfaces! " |
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| 11:01.22 | Kingsy | should I be using chromuim with debian if I want to use google chrome as my browser? I heard somewhere that chromuim was being phased out? |
| 11:01.36 | Kingsy | I am also having problems getting some extensions to work |
| 11:01.47 | Kingsy | which I assume is because of chromium |
| 11:01.57 | lexibq | chromium is just opensource chrome |
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| 11:02.47 | maxyz | or, better stated, without non-free parts, and google call homes. |
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| 11:05.07 | ectospasm | maxyz: saying "without ... google call homes" makes it seem as if Chrome Sync doesn't work in chromium |
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| 11:05.35 | ectospasm | which is definitely not the case. It works fine in chromium |
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| 11:06.33 | maxyz | ,v chromium |
| 11:06.35 | judd | Package: chromium on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; wheezy: 31.0.1650.63-1~deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 32.0.1700.123-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 32.0.1700.123-1~deb7u1; jessie: 32.0.1700.123-1; sid: 32.0.1700.123-1 |
| 11:07.40 | maxyz | lexibq: So, chromium 32 is in wheezy, impressive. |
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| 11:08.24 | maxyz | ,v pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 11:08.26 | judd | Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 1.3; sid/contrib: 1.3 |
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| 11:09.08 | maxyz | lexibq: You can use the non-free flash version of chrome installing pepperflashplugin-nonfree from wheezy-backports |
| 11:09.39 | lexibq | Kingsy: ^ |
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| 11:20.01 | cooldharma06 | dhcp server i need some help ? anybody?? |
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| 11:21.53 | ChrisH | cooldharma06: looks like you have an incomplete config. did you specify any subnets? |
| 11:22.18 | cooldharma06 | i tried but its not getting |
| 11:22.45 | cooldharma06 | 1 min i ll paste my dhcpd.conf in pastebin |
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| 11:24.10 | ChrisH | !pastebin |
| 11:24.11 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 11:24.41 | icaunus | sdd |
| 11:24.43 | cooldharma06 | yes i min |
| 11:24.45 | cooldharma06 | 1 min |
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| 11:26.55 | cooldharma06 | http://pastebin.com/RRFat7hg |
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| 11:27.03 | cooldharma06 | i installed isc-dhcp-server |
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| 11:27.36 | cooldharma06 | my ifconfig ---> http://pastebin.com/8KdrJtRM |
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| 11:36.34 | biketron | Hi ive got an Problem with my gdm ... This morning i (stupidly) installed systemd and systems-sysv.... The Problem now is, that gdm3 isnt starting anymore. And the only Way for accessing is the recovery Mode. I already figured out, that the errormessage of gdm is "Failed to give slave programs acccess to the display" . I also found the Bugreports which are in main equal that an actual Version of gdm and gnome will fix this... |
| 11:37.12 | maxyz | cooldharma06: are you using a dynamic ip and you to serve a dhcp-server there? |
| 11:37.23 | cooldharma06 | yes |
| 11:37.43 | maxyz | cooldharma06: That's not a good idea. |
| 11:37.45 | biketron | Iam quite shure to have the latest Packages installed.. can't run an full upgrade right now (texlive upgrade 1,5GB would be included over umts :/ ) |
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| 11:38.45 | cooldharma06 | why but i am specifying the ranges in that.. then also it will ah.?? |
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| 11:40.01 | BobBall | Howdy - Trying to install jesse through pxe - but the daily image PXE targets don't seem to cope with DHCP. Is there a milestone or know-good installer I can use for jesse? |
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| 11:41.39 | biketron | anybody had this problem in recent time? |
| 11:41.45 | maxyz | cooldharma06: If you have a dhcp server in your network, let it take care of the addresses assignment |
| 11:42.39 | cooldharma06 | i am creating vm im my machine for that i have to configure my dhcp to give ip.. for that i am trying |
| 11:43.28 | maxyz | Else, instead of a bridged network interface for your xen, you'll to create a second network. |
| 11:43.31 | petn-randall | biketron: Is this on wheezy? |
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| 11:43.47 | BobBall | or is there a way to use the wheezy installer but install from the testing repositories or something funky? |
| 11:44.00 | ChrisH | cooldharma06: setup your VM host to bridge the network and have the "external" DHCP assign the IP |
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| 11:44.13 | simonb_ | Hi ail, possibly silly question but three monitors, two graphics cards, one nvidea the other intel. xrandr doesnt see the third monitor and x --configure returns a too many screen error. help? |
| 11:44.15 | ChrisH | cooldharma06: or use NAT without dhcp |
| 11:44.18 | maxyz | cooldharma06: Most probably, your dhcp server will see the virtual machine and assign an ip to it. |
| 11:44.22 | simonb_ | Running jessie |
| 11:44.49 | biketron | peth-randall: no iam running on jessie |
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| 11:45.16 | cooldharma06 | ChrisH https://www.eucalyptus.com/docs/eucalyptus/3.4/install-guide-3.4.1.pdf |
| 11:45.46 | cooldharma06 | please see the page number 22 they mentioned only dhcp so only i am trying with this |
| 11:46.09 | ChrisH | cooldharma06: what VM Software are you running? |
| 11:46.21 | cooldharma06 | maxyz i have to configure my dhcp to allocate ip for vm from the guide |
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| 11:46.40 | ChrisH | cooldharma06: and I will not download and read any PDF |
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| 11:46.44 | cooldharma06 | eucalyptus |
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| 11:49.17 | maxyz | cooldharma06: Use the dhcp server you have on the network for that, a second dhcp server in the same network is a bad idea. |
| 11:50.04 | ChrisH | dunno eucalyptus, but set it to bridged network and let the primary DHCP assign an IP. Anything else will bring you into trouble |
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| 12:03.32 | icaunus | blist |
| 12:03.58 | icaunus | wrong window :) sorry |
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| 12:04.44 | cooldharma06 | Sorry i maked it as statis ip my machine |
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| 12:28.25 | bewees | Hi, what do I have to write into sources.list when I want the Debian DVD's 1-3 as repository source? Right now there is deb cdrom:[Debian.... Binary-1 ...]/ wheezy main. Should I change this to deb dvd:[Debia....]... ? |
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| 12:33.01 | babilen | bewees: Use "apt-cdrom add" to add additional CDs/DVDs |
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| 12:36.46 | bewees | babilen Thanks |
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| 12:38.55 | RichGoldstein | test |
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| 12:39.29 | dmilith | hi |
| 12:39.29 | dmilith | any idea what might be wrong with ubuntu and postgresql? http://s.verknowsys.com/2807d2bcb68a922de4af6ec7cefd78e9e1c99c5d.png |
| 12:39.36 | dmilith | ubuntu/debian, same story |
| 12:40.00 | dmilith | from normal vm it works, for docker environment it doesn't |
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| 12:42.26 | babilen | dmilith: Please seek Ubuntu support in #ubuntu as we only support Debian in here for social and technical reasons |
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| 12:56.42 | ogolovanov | Hello! I have 2 linux servers and i want second server to go to some internet IP's through first server. How to do that correctly ? Any good tutorials ? |
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| 12:57.19 | Rovanion | Is there an equivelant of getent to set things like my shell? |
| 12:58.25 | nkuttler | ogolovanov: you want to configure one box as a router, do NAT |
| 12:58.43 | Rovanion | sudo getent passwd rovanion outputs my shell, how do I set it? |
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| 12:59.15 | themill | Rovanion: chsh |
| 12:59.15 | panos_ | my wifi cards are not working with debian . i saw in kern.log that the firmware was missing. then i copied the file htc_9271.fw. to /lib/firmware but still not working.. |
| 12:59.32 | nkuttler | panos_: did you unload and reload the kernel module? |
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| 13:00.24 | panos_ | i pulled out the usb stick and then in again |
| 13:00.35 | nkuttler | panos_: that won't do |
| 13:00.51 | nkuttler | panos_: btw, that file seems to be packaged in firmware-atheros |
| 13:00.58 | panos_ | a reboot will do? |
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| 13:01.13 | nkuttler | panos_: should do, yes. if i were you i'd also install the firmware package |
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| 13:01.55 | Rovanion | themill: The problem is that I don't exist in /etc/passwd but in some remote domain thingy |
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| 13:02.11 | Rovanion | so chsh tells me that I don't exist in /etc/passwd |
| 13:03.28 | panos_ | i have also another problem with a ZTE usb GSM modem. it is recognized but not working |
| 13:04.37 | themill | Rovanion: ahh. That's probably dependent on the specific setup then. The answer is quite probably "no" without using the appropriate ldap tool or equivalent |
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| 13:05.00 | Rovanion | themill: Guess I'll have to send an email then |
| 13:05.27 | themill | not enough tcsh for you? |
| 13:05.35 | themill | hides behind babilen |
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| 13:06.00 | Rovanion | themill: Too much tcshell rather. Why would anyone pick that as the default shell for all users? |
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| 13:06.39 | themill | any amount of tcsh is too much but there are enough old scientists out there who still love it |
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| 13:08.14 | themill | I have vague (repressed?) memories of «exec -a -bash /bin/bash» in a .cshrc if that makes you feel better. |
| 13:08.40 | babilen | heh |
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| 13:18.18 | abailarri | Hello. I have a server with one web (with they vhost and bind zone file). If I put the domain on the browser works fine. Now, I have another domain that I want to pont inside the other website |
| 13:18.23 | Gary22 | Hi, how do I remove "Linux server 2.6.32-042stab084.12 #1 SMP Tue Nov 26 20:18:08 MSK 2013 x86_64" to NOT be displayed upon logging in? |
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| 13:18.46 | abailarri | somthing like this: /var/www/miweb <---- the fisrts domain that works fine |
| 13:19.03 | abailarri | /var/www/miweb/anotherweb/ <----- the second domine |
| 13:19.10 | abailarri | is posible to do this? |
| 13:19.16 | Gary22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.18 | Gary22 | apache abailarri? |
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| 13:19.51 | abailarri | Gary22, yes |
| 13:20.05 | Gary22 | mmm, I dunno about Apache but it's easily done on nginx |
| 13:20.11 | Gary22 | to have different domains on the same server |
| 13:20.21 | z0lty | abailarri: try apachectl -S |
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| 13:20.32 | z0lty | it will show you virtual hosts and correspondig config files |
| 13:20.37 | z0lty | from sites-enabled |
| 13:20.45 | abailarri | yes I see |
| 13:20.50 | Gary22 | Hi, how do I remove "Linux server 2.6.32-042stab084.12 #1 SMP Tue Nov 26 20:18:08 MSK 2013 x86_64" to NOT be displayed upon logging in? |
| 13:22.26 | nkuttler | Gary22: man 5 motd |
| 13:23.01 | abailarri | z0lty, but what |
| 13:23.17 | Gary22 | thanks nkuttler |
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| 13:25.09 | z0lty | abailarri: if domains and config files looks good check configs if there is set proper DocumentRoot |
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| 13:26.17 | abailarri | z0lty, do you undertsantd my question? I want to point a domain inside a dirctory that is inseide another directory |
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| 13:28.12 | bezaban | abailarri: doesn't it work? |
| 13:28.25 | z0lty | abailarri: imho it doesnt matter |
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| 13:30.09 | abailarri | bezaban, I'm asnwering about what steps I need to do for this |
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| 13:30.40 | bezaban | abailarri: define a new virtualhost the apache config and point the documentroot to the folder of your choice |
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| 13:32.21 | bezaban | abailarri: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/vhosts/examples.html |
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| 13:50.28 | woshty | oh. alsaequal already has a debian package .. |
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| 13:52.15 | berceanu | i still dont get the point release thing - how do i check which *exact* version of debian i have installed? |
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| 13:54.13 | nkuttler | berceanu: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 13:54.52 | babilen | dpkg: tell berceanu about point release |
| 13:55.16 | berceanu | nkuttler: ok so it seems like nothing special is needed to update to the latest point release |
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| 13:55.28 | rodrigobaron | someone uses Debian kfreebsd ? |
| 13:55.31 | berceanu | debian_version says 7.4 |
| 13:55.32 | nkuttler | berceanu: i guess not.. depends on what you need |
| 13:55.33 | berceanu | ;) |
| 13:55.38 | nkuttler | !tell rodrigobaron about kfreebsd |
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| 13:56.44 | bezaban | berceanu: you should only have repositories from one release in your sources.list and that will be the release you are on. If you mix it will not be possible to say what exact version you are on as you won't be exactly on one version |
| 13:57.04 | wnkz | How do you create multiple Volume Group and assign different Logical Volumes to them in a partman (Preseed) recipe ? I found this "documentation" http://ftp.dc.volia.com/pub/debian/preseed/partman-auto-recipe.txt but I still get errors when provisioning |
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| 13:58.49 | rodrigobaron | nkuttler: kfreebsd is more stable than Debian? |
| 13:59.06 | nkuttler | rodrigobaron: kfreebsd is debian.. |
| 13:59.44 | rodrigobaron | nkuttler: lol |
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| 14:06.24 | spyder | how to remove a repository? |
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| 14:08.18 | mtn | spyder: edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use synaptic |
| 14:08.52 | spyder | ok |
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| 14:10.58 | Gan|a | howdy |
| 14:11.20 | spyder | can ubuntu ppa repos be added? |
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| 14:12.13 | nkuttler | spyder: bad idea |
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| 14:12.59 | spyder | nkuttler: ok |
| 14:13.01 | petn-randall | spyder: If you add Ubuntu repos to your Debian, you'll create a unsupportable Frankendebian. |
| 14:13.15 | spyder | petn-randall: ok |
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| 14:13.41 | Gan|a | if im using AV linux can i get support here? |
| 14:14.02 | spyder | i wanted to install f.lux it is either from a ppa repo or directly from source code |
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| 14:16.22 | abrotman | f.lux? |
| 14:17.47 | spyder | abrotman: http://justgetflux.com/ |
| 14:17.49 | wols_ | spyder: ppas are not supported in debian. and will often not work |
| 14:17.57 | spyder | wols_: ok |
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| 14:19.12 | Gan|a | if im using AV linux can i get support here? |
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| 14:19.28 | octocpp | What is the root pass for the debian live cd? |
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| 14:19.34 | mtn | Gan|a: this channel is for debian support |
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| 14:20.04 | Gan|a | Av linux is debain 6.0.3 |
| 14:20.18 | nkuttler | !av linux |
| 14:20.18 | dpkg | AV Linux (formerly A/V Linux) is a 32-bit Live DVD distribution based on Debian <squeeze> (as of version 6). It specializes in multimedia content creation using realtime-patched kernels. AV Linux is not supported in #debian. Support forum: http://remastersys.com/forums/?board=20 . http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html See also <based on debian>. |
| 14:20.36 | n13z | octocpp: By default, there is not any root password on live CD. |
| 14:21.01 | octocpp | oh, sudo will give me equiv access? |
| 14:21.10 | n13z | octocpp: You right. |
| 14:21.14 | Gan|a | is there a default FS for debian? |
| 14:21.36 | n13z | Gan|a: afail is ext4 |
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| 14:21.41 | n13z | *afaik |
| 14:21.53 | abrotman | spyder: https://github.com/Kilian/f.lux-indicator-applet he has the debian/ folder there, you can probably create your own packages (though I already see he depends on ia32-libs, which is wrong) |
| 14:21.54 | digdilem | my recollection is the installer picks ext4 by default |
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| 14:22.21 | octocpp | n13z: does the live cd come with smartctl installed? |
| 14:22.38 | petern_ | there's a free version of f.lux around somewhere. |
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| 14:22.54 | octocpp | n13z: I cant seem to tab autofill onit, so i assumed i need to be root so it is in my path? |
| 14:22.56 | petern_ | ah, redshift it is called |
| 14:22.58 | n13z | octocpp: dunno |
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| 14:23.07 | spyder | abrotman: ok |
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| 14:24.33 | n13z | octocpp: I'm pretty sure you can install the software you need on a live CD with internet access. |
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| 14:26.42 | octocpp | n13z: I just created the root pass, and did su, but still no smart |
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| 14:28.06 | n13z | octocpp: Use apt-get to install samrt mon tools |
| 14:28.12 | n13z | *smart |
| 14:28.56 | wols_ | octocpp: ls -l /usr/sbin/smartctl |
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| 14:41.46 | iateadonut | i've got a VPS, and i seemed to have been locked out, maybe by fail2ban. I rebooted the VPS and then was able to login again. is that the behavior expected if fail2ban modified your iptables? |
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| 14:43.21 | d3sync | iateadonut: basicly fail2ban reads the fail attempts through the logs and applies some rules on the firewall |
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| 14:43.56 | d3sync | so if u failed to login a couple of times yes that should be the proper behavior |
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| 14:45.06 | iateadonut | i mean, rebooting the VPS would eliminate fail2ban's previous alterations to iptables? |
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| 14:46.38 | petern_ | Yes, rules are not persistent. |
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| 14:47.38 | n13z | petern_: Unless you configure fail2ban to do that. |
| 14:48.01 | petern_ | Would be a nice way to shoot yourself in the foot. |
| 14:48.28 | n13z | petern_: Unless you have an alternative way to get in ;) |
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| 14:50.23 | busch | Yesterday someshing strange happens with my Luks-encrypted mdadm raid5 array (5 disks). I accessed a folder but there was no data in it anymore. I rebooted the machine but the array does not assembled itself. "mdadm --detail --scan" says "mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does not appear to be active.". Heres the output from "mdadm --examine": http://paste.debian.net/84171/ |
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| 14:56.45 | mjt | busch: you have 2 faulty/removed drives. mdadm --assemble --force /dev/md0 should hopefully be able to help |
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| 14:58.07 | jhutchins | my startup menu appears to have disappeared from my taskbar in xfce - how do I get it back? |
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| 15:01.16 | petern_ | raid5 + 2 faulty disks doesn't sound very useful... |
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| 15:01.43 | Kubaaaaa | hey |
| 15:01.45 | usrnix | Hi, I'm having issues removing/installing/reinstalling/purging exim4-daemon-heavy since the config files are missing and it apparently has a meltdown over that... http://paste.debian.net/plainh/9727a971 |
| 15:02.02 | petern_ | busch, raid5 only tolerates 1 drive failure, so good luck. |
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| 15:03.15 | Kubaaaaa | I'm really sorry to ask it here, but #*pgp* and #*gpg* are silent and I didn't find an answer in the Internet... Do you have any particular advice on how many identities to store on a single GPG key? and is it "permitted" to add new ID later and ask people to sing it? |
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| 15:03.24 | busch | mjt: petern_: Why do some drives showing faulty devices while others not? |
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| 15:04.06 | usrnix | Kubaaaaa: #Gnupg? |
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| 15:04.31 | Kubaaaaa | usrnix: I thought I tried all combinations... thx! |
| 15:04.32 | jhutchins | busch: Sounds like hardware failure. |
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| 15:04.42 | usrnix | Kubaaaaa: Well that's the best one :) |
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| 15:04.50 | frostschutz | busch, because the metadata is no longer updated for disks that already got kicked out of the array |
| 15:05.45 | Brigo | usrnix, amd64 package?? |
| 15:05.49 | petern_ | 5 disks in raid5 is a bit excessive, as there is always only room for one drive failure. Adding more disks just reduces reliability. |
| 15:05.56 | busch | frostschutz: So sdb und sdc are dying because they are showing "sync active" for 5 disks? |
| 15:06.05 | usrnix | Brigo: I guess? (Yea the OS is 64bit) |
| 15:06.26 | frostschutz | busch, I don't know, if you pasted your mdadm --examine already, I've missed it since I just rejoined |
| 15:06.29 | Brigo | usrnix, i will paste my sources.lst |
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| 15:06.43 | busch | frostschutz: http://paste.debian.net/84171/ |
| 15:06.51 | Kubaaaaa | usrnix: btw, do you know why Debian advises to use 4096bits, while gnupg strictly says there is not much of a point? (http://www.gnupg.org/faq/gnupg-faq.html#no_default_of_rsa4096) |
| 15:07.30 | usrnix | Kubaaaaa: Cryptographic politics, I'd used 4096, read up if you wana find out why exactly I guess |
| 15:07.31 | Brigo | usrnix, http://paste.debian.net/84176/ |
| 15:07.31 | frostschutz | busch, full output please |
| 15:08.13 | busch | frostschutz: http://paste.debian.net/84177/ |
| 15:08.20 | Kubaaaaa | usrnix: all right; enough of off-topic :) thanks |
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| 15:08.45 | Brigo | usrnix, no amd64 .... |
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| 15:09.28 | usrnix | Brigo: I'm not sure what you're trying to say here... |
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| 15:10.03 | usrnix | Brigo: Also stop using non-free and contrib kaythx |
| 15:10.33 | Brigo | usrnix, yes, i am wrong, sorry. |
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| 15:10.55 | Brigo | usrnix, that line: Error, no /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf |
| 15:11.02 | Brigo | did you delete this file? |
| 15:11.37 | usrnix | Brigo: Yes there isn't a /etc/exim4 dir right now, so I'm trying to force an abort of the attempted install and start over |
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| 15:12.01 | frostschutz | busch, see the Events: count, two of your drives are missing 12 events, so they're the kicked/outdated ones. do you have any logs what happened there? smartctl? |
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| 15:12.11 | Brigo | then try dkpkg --foce-all or something (use the manpages) |
| 15:12.18 | Brigo | dpkg* |
| 15:13.19 | frostschutz | busch, you'll probably have to recreate the array to get it going again; --assemble --force probably won't work with drives already marked as failed |
| 15:13.56 | frostschutz | busch, the create will overwrite your data if you use the wrong settings though |
| 15:15.21 | busch | frostschutz: kern.log: http://paste.debian.net/84178/ |
| 15:15.29 | usrnix | Brigo: I've tried a bunch of things so far, nothing's worked |
| 15:15.58 | busch | frostschutz: ata5 and ata6 are IDE disks afaik |
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| 15:17.28 | Brigo | did you try dpkg remove --force-all ? |
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| 15:17.52 | busch | frostschutz: Yes, --assemble --force doesnt work. |
| 15:18.23 | busch | frostschutz: I dont believe two drives are failing at the same time |
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| 15:19.29 | Brigo | usrnix, or you can try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/266450/how-to-fix-e-internal-error-no-file-name-for-libc6 |
| 15:19.35 | frostschutz | busch, it's unlikely for that to happen, however if you're not monitoring your disks (like, regular smart self tests), you simply won't notice the failure until two disks fail, so... |
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| 15:20.05 | busch | frostschutz: The disk labels are strange. Now its disk sd[bcdef]. Can it be, that they changed? |
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| 15:20.58 | busch | frostschutz: Im running smartctl. No warnings/errors. I paste you the output when im at home |
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| 15:24.58 | frostschutz | busch, this might work for recreating, according to what you pasted. backup the first and last 100M of each partition first, then test in readonly mode if it can be mounted with intact large files... mdadm --create /dev/md42 --assume-clean --metadata=0.90 --level=5 --raid-devices=5 --chunk=64 /dev/sdd1 missing /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdf1 ; mdadm --readonly /dev/md42 |
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| 15:28.02 | busch | frostschutz: Can i query? |
| 15:28.31 | frostschutz | sure |
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| 15:34.55 | tobb | does anyone have any idea how the swap is setup during encrypted installation? (in one big lvm partition) I accidentally ran luksFormat on my swap and now it's not found during boot resuming from a suspend |
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| 15:37.07 | frostschutz | tobb, maybe it's in /etc/crypttab? |
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| 15:37.39 | tobb | frostschutz: no only the encrypted root is there |
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| 15:39.09 | Sbroker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:43.13 | x3_iVaN | Sbroker: xDD |
| 15:43.22 | x3_iVaN | Hablemos en spanish |
| 15:43.29 | Sbroker | pues la verdad |
| 15:43.36 | nkuttler | !es |
| 15:43.37 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 15:43.37 | x3_iVaN | o en català ! |
| 15:43.43 | x3_iVaN | lol |
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| 15:43.52 | x3_iVaN | !ca |
| 15:43.52 | dpkg | ca is, like, Certificate Authority. It's required when browsers check your SSL certs with the CA's digital signature. Also ask me about <ssl> and <rootca>. It has been observed that "Commercial certificate authorities protect you from anyone from whom they are unwilling to take money." (http://www.crypto.com/blog/spycerts/) |
| 15:43.57 | x3_iVaN | :-( |
| 15:44.05 | Sbroker | no habla ni dios... |
| 15:44.17 | x3_iVaN | There's no support in catalan! |
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| 15:44.39 | Sbroker | why dont use "arameo languaje" for support ? |
| 15:44.59 | x3_iVaN | #debian-cat FTW |
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| 15:45.32 | Sbroker | dpkg -I CATALUFO-LANG.DEB |
| 15:45.33 | dpkg | removes a lung from sbroker and replaces it with CATALUFO-LANG.DEB |
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| 15:45.55 | x3_iVaN | lol |
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| 15:46.04 | x3_iVaN | s/-I/-i |
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| 15:46.38 | babilen | x3_iVaN: Do you have a Debian related question we can help you with? (in English) |
| 15:47.01 | x3_iVaN | babilen: ehm, lol |
| 15:47.03 | x3_iVaN | no |
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| 15:48.07 | babilen | x3_iVaN: Okay, it would be appreciated if you could join a different channel for chatting in that case. #debian-offtopic or #defocus come to mind, but I am sure that there are some Spanish/Catalan ones around somewhere. |
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| 15:48.57 | x3_iVaN | babilen: not want to chat, sorry |
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| 15:50.06 | x3_iVaN | I'm here 24h, I'll not left because Sbroker not know english |
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| 15:50.43 | nvteighen | x3_iVaN: there's #debian-es, the Spanish version of this room |
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| 15:51.25 | babilen | x3_iVaN: This is a technical support channel and it would be appreciated if you could remain silent unless you are helping someone or have a question yourself. Join #debian-es for a support channel in Spanish. All the best! :) |
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| 15:51.46 | Sbroker | nkuttler, !en |
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| 15:51.53 | melt7777 | lol catalan, there are like 10 people worldwide who speak that |
| 15:52.10 | babilen | Could we move on now? |
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| 15:52.39 | x3_iVaN | melt7777: do you have any questions Debian-related? If not, please shut up or move to another channel, like Debian-Offtopic. Thanks. |
| 15:52.44 | melt7777 | yes back to silence |
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| 15:52.53 | Sbroker | bueno pues aqui hablamos español |
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| 15:53.15 | nvteighen | Sbroker: no, we don't; here we speak English (being a Spanish native speaker as I am) |
| 15:53.29 | aborrero | -_- |
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| 15:53.44 | Sbroker | babilen, do you have any problem speaking spanish ? |
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| 15:55.01 | babilen | Sbroker: This is an English speaking channel. But lets move on. |
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| 15:56.18 | wols_ | !es |
| 15:56.18 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 15:57.44 | mjt | frostschutz: you're forgetting the famous --data-offset |
| 15:58.04 | mjt | frostschutz: re mdadm stuff |
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| 15:59.37 | mjt | busch: if mdadm --force doesn't work, you're at a very risky stage, and should be _very_ careful. Most likely the data is okay, but it is now very easy to damage it beyong recovery |
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| 16:01.11 | mjt | busch: (but i'n not able to guide a data recovery session now, i'm busy) |
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| 16:08.49 | JyZyXEL | is it possible to give a user access to file transfers with scp, but no shell access? |
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| 16:11.44 | jhutchins | JyZyXEL: Yes. Old method was to use "scponly" for the shell, but that's deprecated. Use sshd_conf to restrict that user to the sftp program. |
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| 16:12.05 | JyZyXEL | jhutchins: there is also something called the rssh |
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| 16:12.21 | JyZyXEL | jhutchins: wouldn't you wanna use scp and sftp? |
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| 16:13.18 | jhutchins | JyZyXEL: http://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze |
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| 16:14.56 | jhutchins | JyZyXEL: Using rssh: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/rhel-centos-linux-install-configure-rssh-shell.html |
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| 16:16.55 | jhutchins | JyZyXEL: Thanks for asking that question, I needed to look up some references and bookmark them for a future project. |
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| 16:17.27 | danlamanna^ | how do i set a network interface down? |
| 16:17.50 | jhutchins | danlamanna^: ifconfig iface down |
| 16:18.08 | zophy | which irc server has a monodevelop channel ? |
| 16:18.22 | danlamanna^ | jhutchins: ifconfig isn't installed by default is it? sorry i'm on a debian-variant (crunchbang) |
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| 16:19.05 | petern_ | zophy, irc.gnome.org |
| 16:19.14 | zophy | ah, yes, thganks |
| 16:19.45 | jhutchins | zophy: oftc has some too: http://mono-project.com/IRC |
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| 16:23.50 | FeriKe | Hi, Does compiz screw up debian or it's working with it without any risk? |
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| 16:24.14 | petern_ | Compiz is pretty dead, no? |
| 16:24.29 | JyZyXEL | /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server must be listed in /etc/shells as a valid login shell, so if it isn't already listed, please add it to /etc/shells as follows: |
| 16:24.32 | FeriKe | How do you mean? |
| 16:24.37 | JyZyXEL | why isn't that done by default |
| 16:25.06 | JyZyXEL | shouldn't the openssh-server installer do that? |
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| 16:27.01 | freeminds | is there a way to see how a package has been compiled? I mean the ./configure command? |
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| 16:27.37 | JyZyXEL | i bet that is not even needed |
| 16:27.48 | jhutchins | JyZyXEL: Let us know please. |
| 16:28.17 | petern_ | FeriKe, abandoned. It doesn't exist in Wheezy, e.g. |
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| 16:29.05 | FeriKe | I see |
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| 16:30.56 | JyZyXEL | jhutchins: well it doesn't seem to work either way |
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| 16:33.41 | wols_ | JyZyXEL: sftp is not in my /etc/shells but sftp works fine |
| 16:34.16 | JyZyXEL | i get Connection closed by remote host and Couldn't read packet |
| 16:35.29 | JyZyXEL | ah, fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component |
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| 16:36.04 | JyZyXEL | i didn't realize the preceding directories also had to be chowned root.root |
| 16:36.05 | jhutchins | JyZyXEL: Chroot can be a real pain, you need to set up a whole tree for binary commands and libs. |
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| 16:36.34 | JyZyXEL | jhutchins: shouldn't be a pain if you only run sftp-server and use it for file transfers |
| 16:36.59 | jhutchins | freeminds: There is a switch for the C compiler that causes the options to be stored in the resulting binary, but nothing says it has to be used. |
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| 16:37.19 | jhutchins | freeminds: If it's a debian package, you should be able to find the options in the source package. |
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| 16:37.54 | JyZyXEL | jhutchins: and its not like giving them a real account is ever an alternative unless you really really trust them with everything on the machine |
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| 16:38.35 | frostschutz | mjt, data offset with 0.90 metadata? |
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| 16:40.11 | jhutchins | Is there a more active xfce channel than the one on freenode? |
| 16:40.31 | jhutchins | My start menu has disappeared from my taskbar. |
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| 16:41.58 | Gary22 | Hi, I want to give someone on my server permission to use a certian program, like nmap. How do I achieve this? |
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| 16:43.04 | l3on | Hi all.. how can I propose a new version for debian/watch in a package ?... filing a bug ? |
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| 16:46.21 | jordanm | l3on: wishlist bug |
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| 16:46.43 | l3on | jordanm, what about this → http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/sepwatch/trunk/watchfiles/ ? |
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| 16:47.54 | Gary22 | Hi, I want to give someone on my server permission to use a certian program, like nmap. How do I achieve this? |
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| 16:48.29 | jordanm | l3on: looks like the commits to that repo are automated |
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| 16:48.40 | jordanm | l3on: probably come from the packages themselves |
| 16:48.49 | l3on | jordanm, ah ok!.. thansk |
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| 16:54.51 | acu | I have a laptop with Debian 7.4 (wheezy) amd64 with a solid state drive and / xfs - I cannot boot anymore - it gives me a bunch of errors /root faile structure needs cleaning mounting /dev on /root/dev failed no such file or directory, target filesystem doesnot have requested /sbin/init ( XFS (sda3) failed to recover EFIs XFS: internal error XFS_WANT_CORRUPTED_GOTO line 1530.... |
| 16:55.21 | ixela | you need to repair your xfs partition, from what that sounds like |
| 16:55.31 | ixela | does your /boot live on a separate partition? |
| 16:55.42 | petn-randall | acu: Can you paste a screenshot? Also any hints what led to this problem would be good. |
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| 16:57.20 | acu | petn-randal - cannot screenshot it - I was doing a dd from one drive to other (other than the laptop one) they were connected trhough Usb - I did this many times - suddenly I lost screen and I forced shut it down from power button |
| 16:57.57 | petn-randall | acu: Maybe you did a typo while using dd and killed the root filesystem? |
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| 16:58.31 | jhutchins | acu: Hardware fail. |
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| 17:06.20 | Posterdati | hi |
| 17:06.38 | esing | Hello, why are the Debian i386 DVD images together 13,2 GB big, and the Debian i386 mirror repository 82GB big, though the DVD image contains also all main/contrib/non-free packages? |
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| 17:07.37 | Posterdati | please I need help: I've got a wifi usb keyboard from logitech (K520), it goes in powersave mode and then won't wakeup, how can I configure that device to not powersuspend itself? |
| 17:07.56 | jhutchins | esing: Only the image maintainers know what's on each image and why. |
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| 17:08.44 | jhutchins | Posterdati: That would be a question for Logitech. Mine doesn't have any options, but it doesn't appear to do that. |
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| 17:09.34 | jhutchins | Posterdati: This appears to be a model Y-R0015 |
| 17:09.37 | Posterdati | I forgot the console command I gave, resetted the pc and cannot configure the keyboard back :) |
| 17:10.01 | jhutchins | Posterdati: Actually, probably not bluetooth, it has it's own USB nub. |
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| 17:10.14 | Posterdati | ye |
| 17:10.14 | Posterdati | s |
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| 17:19.31 | lexibq | does anyone know why the left/right squarebrackets output the numbers 8/9 and shift+' gives the letter q ? |
| 17:19.41 | mdel | lexibq: sounds like your numlock is on |
| 17:19.58 | lexibq | mdel: I don't have a numpad/numlock |
| 17:20.09 | lexibq | setxkbmap gb sort of works, but at symbol comes out as Ω |
| 17:20.32 | mdel | maybe wrong keyboard mapping, otherwise no clue |
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| 17:28.06 | funyun | hi. how do i upgrade from wheezy to the current stable? |
| 17:28.55 | littlebear | funyun: if I remember correct, sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 17:29.11 | funyun | littlebear: thanks :) |
| 17:29.12 | noobydelznufus | funyun: did u try sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 17:29.28 | funyun | noobydelznufus: i haven't tried anything yet. |
| 17:29.43 | BlakeRG | Hey all, this is kind of off topic but i need to give a presentation today. Is there anything simple/free that can do network topology stuff as well? |
| 17:30.03 | noobydelznufus | BlakeRG: Zenmap |
| 17:30.14 | funyun | noobydelznufus: should i change wheezy to squeeze in my sources list firght? |
| 17:30.16 | funyun | first* |
| 17:30.23 | mtn | funyun: wheezy is the current stable |
| 17:30.36 | jhutchins | funyun: squeeze is oldstable. |
| 17:30.38 | noobydelznufus | funyun: i dont think so, not sure. |
| 17:30.41 | funyun | oh it is? |
| 17:30.57 | littlebear | BlakeRG: http://www.slideshare.net/siddiqueibrahim37/network-topologyppt |
| 17:30.59 | funyun | so i'm up to date? |
| 17:31.16 | jhutchins | funyun: You might want to update the packages as shown above. |
| 17:31.43 | littlebear | BlakeRG: oh wait, you need software? I recommend inkscape or dia |
| 17:31.43 | funyun | jhutchins: i always do apt-get update/upgrade if that's what you mean? |
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| 17:32.10 | mdel | ha littlebear, I think you meant to post that in #node.js |
| 17:32.18 | BlakeRG | ok, checking those out littlebear |
| 17:32.37 | mdel | oh nvm littlebear ... BlakeRG sent that in both rooms ;) |
| 17:32.49 | BlakeRG | ;) |
| 17:32.53 | BlakeRG | thanks mdel |
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| 17:35.03 | littlebear | mdel: I'm not in nodejs channel |
| 17:35.19 | littlebear | mdel: didn't know nodejs is in this server |
| 17:35.49 | mdel | littlebear: yeah I just saw your reply in here to the same question |
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| 17:39.40 | BlakeRG | thanks for the suggestions everyone! |
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| 17:41.40 | tharkun | Is there a way to tell debian to mail only when a cronjob fails? |
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| 17:43.28 | littlebear | tharkun: do a script to check if the command is true, then else if email |
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| 17:44.02 | tharkun | littlebear: then the result of the check script would allways be mailed. |
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| 17:46.28 | littlebear | tharkun: check against /var/log/syslog i think http://askubuntu.com/questions/149504/how-can-i-tell-if-my-hourly-cron-job-has-run |
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| 17:50.00 | tharkun | littlebear: Thanks for the link but that does not relate to the problem at hand. The cronjob is running under a specific user at an specific time interval. vixie cron by default mails the command executed and the output associated with it. The isue is that I don't want it to mail successfull events but only the ones that have a problem. |
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| 17:52.11 | pepex | hello |
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| 17:52.44 | pepex | can somebody help me with rootkit hunter and chkrootkit installation? |
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| 17:53.07 | pepex | am trying to install them but i cant |
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| 17:54.11 | pepex | hello? |
| 17:54.17 | weenus | can't you elaborate on can't? |
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| 17:55.00 | pepex | i can't install them it says it is not found |
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| 17:55.23 | pepex | but when i go to google and look for it |
| 17:55.38 | pepex | it is included in the debian packages |
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| 17:56.14 | weenus | It must not be in your particular repos, OR you need to update them, then attempt to install again. |
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| 17:57.10 | weenus | You can also google for "debian rkhunter .deb" and download the .deb from Debian's site. |
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| 17:57.54 | weenus | Then you'd open a terminal in the download location folder and run ... 'sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb' |
| 17:58.19 | mcurran | does anybody know the best log to check when getting the "Oh no. Something has gone wrong!" message when attempting to startx |
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| 17:58.48 | mcurran | I'm running jessie and recently upgraded and I'm now getting that message. I updated to a new kernel even and I'm still getting the error. |
| 17:58.50 | weenus | Have a look at the syslog at a minimum |
| 17:58.59 | pepex | ok i will do that |
| 17:58.59 | pepex | weenus: thank you! |
| 17:59.09 | d1z | what is the default mailer in debian? I installed opensmtpd and I want mutt to send email through opensmtpd |
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| 17:59.38 | weenus | Usually a new kernel can sometimes not be compatible with a certain video card driver...this can crimp X's style. |
| 18:00.10 | weenus | Just fall back to your previous kernel next boot and see if the errors disappear. |
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| 18:00.37 | mcurran | well I had it working fine, I use the patched nvidia (proprietary) drivers from nvidia.com. During my upgrade I did not change my kernel. and furthermore it was working just a boot prior. |
| 18:01.14 | weenus | The kernel still needs to know about the new driver so it can compile and load a module for it. |
| 18:01.16 | mcurran | I also tried disabling all the gnome-shell extensions, and that didn't help either. So then I backed up ~/.config and tried a new one and that didn't work |
| 18:01.48 | weenus | It is loading a module for your previous driver, not the new patched one. |
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| 18:02.06 | mcurran | I'm thinking maybe the upgrade reinstalled the nouveau driver or something related to gdm, but not sure why that would ruin a working x |
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| 18:02.30 | mcurran | that's why i'm trying to find a log that could help me identify the issue. Xorg.log and dmesg show nothing |
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| 18:03.01 | dbf | i am doing a little poll for my blog, would you mind voting for your favorite RDBMS? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1au2FKsXLQl7xb59K7jvqyzXoxRru5MFerTgnr13r-9M/viewform |
| 18:03.09 | mcurran | I guess I'll go forward with installing the latest nvidia driver with my updated kernel. |
| 18:04.09 | BadOgre | pepex: aptitude show rkhunter |
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| 18:06.16 | Wh4tTheFvk | Picture of my hot whore ex-girlfriend naked for your enjoyment: http://imagetwist.com/znaykwuicizb/IMG_4631.jpg |
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| 18:12.40 | tharkun | d1z: The weapon of choice for debian is Exim. But if you only need to send mail there are more economic options. |
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| 18:17.25 | eipieqng1 | Hey folks -- I am about to shoot myself. I have looked all over google but I am guessing I do not understand the problem well enough becuase I cannot find anything remotley close. I have a debian box that for some reason will no longer load the desktop enviroment when users type in their username and pass at the GUI screen. I can still SSH into it or hit CTL+ALT+F1. I have tried reinstalling the defualt desktop enviroment bu |
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| 18:21.07 | centrx | eipieqng1, Don't do it! |
| 18:21.12 | fixdtilbr0k | how do you stop additional user accounts from being added |
| 18:21.57 | eipieqng1 | centrx, don't do which part? |
| 18:21.58 | centrx | fixdtilbr0k, Don't add them because you are the superuser? |
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| 18:22.10 | centrx | eipieqng1, You have so much to live for! |
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| 18:23.41 | eipieqng1 | centrx, you are right, I will have much to live for unless I cannot get this damn thing working |
| 18:23.53 | eipieqng1 | err unles I get this thing working |
| 18:24.09 | eipieqng1 | I know, I use teh commandline best I can but I actually need this functional |
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| 18:25.35 | fixdtilbr0k | yeah i roll root, i know i know, but when i loaded hexchat up it added a user to my login, totally freaked my uber-root style all up |
| 18:25.45 | centrx | eipieqng1, If you run startx from the console, without the |
| 18:25.47 | centrx | fixdtilbr0k, That is stupid |
| 18:25.56 | fixdtilbr0k | yup, yer right, i know, i know |
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| 18:26.23 | centrx | eipieqng1, Is it the DM or the DE or the X that is not working? |
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| 18:27.36 | tharkun | eipieqng1: Get your act together, what version of Debian are you using, how are your users connecting. How many users do you have? What does syslog have to say about this? |
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| 18:28.56 | tharkun | eipieqng1: In a nutshell get facts that can help someone which doesn't know crap about your setup understand it so a solution can be found the speediest way. |
| 18:29.23 | eipieqng1 | tharkum, thanks yea I am a newb. I am alos at the office and I just got a call |
| 18:29.27 | eipieqng1 | but its wheezy |
| 18:29.30 | eipieqng1 | I am the user |
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| 18:29.52 | fixdtilbr0k | i'm so mcluvn that "i am the user" ;) |
| 18:29.58 | eipieqng1 | and the enviroment is the one that comes in the bais cinstaller |
| 18:30.00 | eipieqng1 | not KDE |
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| 18:30.09 | fixdtilbr0k | the box rubs the lotion on itself |
| 18:30.35 | eipieqng1 | thanks fixdtilbr0k , that made me chuckle in a way not approrpiate for work. |
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| 18:30.58 | fixdtilbr0k | just the way ya typed it, cool one man |
| 18:32.13 | eipieqng1 | I am just speaking in the affermative |
| 18:32.21 | eipieqng1 | hey tharkun, what else should I have said to satisfy you? |
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| 18:32.42 | fixdtilbr0k | you got any clue how to prevent other user accounts from being added eipieqng1? |
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| 18:33.21 | centrx | fixdtilbr0k, Log in as an unprivileged user |
| 18:33.34 | fixdtilbr0k | not gonna happen centrx |
| 18:33.39 | eipieqng1 | i like centrx's answer |
| 18:33.41 | eipieqng1 | but ia m a newb |
| 18:33.57 | fixdtilbr0k | ain't nothing on this drive worth anything, all my stuff is off this box |
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| 18:34.13 | fixdtilbr0k | this is a pentest style box setting up to hammer M$ non root users in my lab |
| 18:34.30 | fixdtilbr0k | didn't know another user could be added till just now, so if ya can help cool if not thanx |
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| 18:35.21 | fixdtilbr0k | things that annoy me are like tool tips telling me what workspace i'm on, and if someone gains access to your box whether root or not, yer toast |
| 18:35.37 | fixdtilbr0k | so doesn't really matter a whole lot for me, not sitting on a 500 seat network |
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| 18:36.54 | fixdtilbr0k | sides, most people plow their info on social media, like root hurts the NSA vibe |
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| 18:38.12 | eipieqng1 | so what do you say tharkun? Did you not like my answers, do you need more? |
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| 18:38.45 | fixdtilbr0k | crap man, more i think about, it ain't stupid, it's my box like the other guy said, why i'm not on M$ so if ya don't know i'll head elsewhere, just ran openvas on it set the firewall trollen vpn style and gonna finisht the ids/ips later on today, locked the wifi down no wps, don't hit any accounts from this box except xchat, anything else i'm doing that is stupid? |
| 18:39.20 | fixdtilbr0k | fuck it later |
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| 18:40.31 | nkuttler | ruukasu: ping |
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| 18:40.37 | nkuttler | ,v bitcoin-qt |
| 18:40.38 | judd | Package: bitcoin-qt on i386 -- sid: 0.8.6-1 |
| 18:41.01 | nkuttler | !tell ruukasu about ssbp |
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| 18:41.54 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport bitcoin-qt |
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| 18:42.16 | judd | Backporting package bitcoin-qt in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: qt4-default. |
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| 18:43.25 | ruukasu | "check for a backport on <debian-backports>" |
| 18:43.34 | ruukasu | where is this <debian-backports>? |
| 18:43.36 | nkuttler | ruukasu: there is none |
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| 18:43.40 | ruukasu | ah |
| 18:43.44 | nkuttler | ruukasu: just /msg dpkg keyword |
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| 18:44.00 | ruukasu | ? |
| 18:44.07 | nkuttler | e.g. /msg dpkg debian-backports |
| 18:44.11 | ruukasu | ah |
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| 18:44.41 | ruukasu | <dpkg> I wish you would RTFM., ruukasu |
| 18:44.42 | ruukasu | how nice |
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| 18:44.57 | nkuttler | ruukasu: probably a typo |
| 18:45.00 | ruukasu | yeah |
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| 18:46.36 | ruukasu | nkuttler, can't I just install the squeeze package over ftp and dpkg -i? |
| 18:46.50 | nkuttler | ruukasu: there is no squeeze package |
| 18:47.03 | ruukasu | wut? |
| 18:47.06 | ruukasu | https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/libdb4.8-dev/download |
| 18:47.19 | jhutchins | !bdo |
| 18:47.19 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 18:47.25 | nkuttler | ruukasu: oh libdb... no idea, sounds like a very bad idea if you're on testing |
| 18:47.49 | nkuttler | ruukasu: actually, if you're on testing anyway, try to dpkg -i the sid package.. |
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| 18:47.58 | ruukasu | which sid package? |
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| 18:48.11 | nkuttler | ruukasu: the one you find on pdo |
| 18:48.17 | ruukasu | but if the package has a different name than the newer one, what harm can installing both do? |
| 18:48.29 | nkuttler | ruukasu: the bitcoin-qt package |
| 18:48.41 | nkuttler | ruukasu: if the deps are satisfied in testing, no need to build anything |
| 18:48.51 | ruukasu | nkuttler, but paranoia |
| 18:49.02 | nkuttler | well, i can't help with that |
| 18:49.05 | ruukasu | plus altcoins that I need to compile anyway |
| 18:49.10 | ruukasu | same deps |
| 18:50.04 | eipieqng1 | one more time. |
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| 18:51.27 | ruukasu | is the bitcoin-qt sid package compiled by debian maintainers? |
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| 18:51.40 | nkuttler | ruukasu: of course, all packages are |
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| 18:52.44 | ruukasu | if I install it without adding the sid repos, does it have any way to upgrade without manually reinstalling the deb? |
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| 18:58.23 | centrx | ruukasu, What version of Debian are you running? |
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| 18:59.33 | ruukasu | centrx, jessie |
| 18:59.43 | mjt | that's #debian-next |
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| 19:00.06 | ruukasu | ;_; |
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| 19:00.58 | mjt | but at any rate, you can add repositories and upgrade at any point |
| 19:01.01 | centrx | ruukasu, When bitcoin-qt migrates to testing, or a newer version of it, it will upgrade like other packages, like a slipstream |
| 19:01.13 | mjt | and that too |
| 19:01.27 | centrx | ruukasu, Until then, it will show up as an "Obsolete" package, because it is not found in your testing repository |
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| 19:03.10 | centrx | ruukasu, However, read this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718272 |
| 19:03.18 | centrx | ruukasu, That is bug report that is blocking migration to testing |
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| 19:11.44 | jhutchins | http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2014/02/schadenfreude-1.html |
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| 19:14.05 | MartijnH | hi folks, I messed up my install after attempting a wheezy -> jessie upgrade and unpowering the virtualbox it ran in after it went non-responsive. It dropped to console on the next restart where I dist-upgrade'd -f. I'm now greeted with an "oh no! something went wrong!" screen. I can still drop to console. Are there any quick-fixes I could try? |
| 19:14.19 | Gary22 | Hi |
| 19:14.21 | Mousey | hi hi |
| 19:14.26 | Gary22 | Mousey |
| 19:14.31 | Gary22 | I have a motd dynamic script |
| 19:14.34 | Gary22 | who=`whoami` |
| 19:14.38 | Gary22 | printf "Local Users:\t%s\tLogged in as:\t%s\n" $users $who |
| 19:14.44 | Gary22 | this prints out the user |
| 19:14.49 | Gary22 | but it always prints out root |
| 19:14.52 | Gary22 | and not the actual user |
| 19:14.54 | Gary22 | do you have any idea why? |
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| 19:15.10 | Mousey | is it in your /etc/somethingoranother? or is it in your ~/.somethingoranother? |
| 19:15.14 | nkuttler | MartijnH: this oh no comes from your de? |
| 19:15.24 | Gary22 | Mousey: /etc/update-motd.d/10-sysinfo |
| 19:15.54 | jhutchins | MartijnH: aptitude -f install? |
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| 19:15.59 | Mousey | Gary22: iinm, that's prolly executed by root, so the results of your `stuff` comes from the root user |
| 19:16.16 | MartijnH | nkuttler, I'm not sure where it is coming from (I'm quite the noob), but it seems it might be a display manager (gdm3?) |
| 19:16.17 | Gary22 | ah |
| 19:16.22 | Gary22 | Mousey: would it work if I gave access |
| 19:16.23 | Gary22 | to the files |
| 19:16.27 | Gary22 | on the account? |
| 19:16.39 | Gary22 | chown them? |
| 19:16.43 | MartijnH | I can drop to console and the system itself is usable, but the desktop seems to be fscked |
| 19:17.04 | Mousey | Gary22: you must follow the flow of execution, root has access to ALL the files. so it's not a matter of access, so much as a matter of WHEN it is executed |
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| 19:17.36 | Mousey | Gary22: it could also be that you are logging in only as root? |
| 19:17.59 | MartijnH | I don't mind apt-get purge'ing whatever is hurting me, and re-installing it, but I'm such a noob I'm not quite sure where to start finding out what is hurting me :/ |
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| 19:19.28 | Mousey | MartijnH: might try "dpkg --configure -a" instead of "apt-get -f install", to see if what's partly-installed already can be fully-installed |
| 19:19.39 | Gary22 | Mousey: what do you mean? |
| 19:19.51 | nkuttler | MartijnH: after that you could do a dpkg-reconfigure kdm|gdm|whatever you use and switch to a different one |
| 19:19.55 | MartijnH | thanks, I'll give that a swing Mousey. I tried that first, but that stopped with too many errors. Let's see what it does now |
| 19:20.01 | nkuttler | MartijnH: or run startx from the console and see what happens |
| 19:20.32 | Mousey | MartijnH: and check your logs /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if they have bad news around the times you've tried |
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| 19:20.46 | MartijnH | nkuttler, that actually runs and starts some desktop environment - looking quite different from gnome fallback what I was using earlier, but I'll take a look at the stuff you've provided. |
| 19:20.49 | nkuttler | MartijnH: and ~/.xsession-errors |
| 19:20.56 | MartijnH | I guess that's plenty for the next 20 minutes or so |
| 19:20.59 | nkuttler | MartijnH: ok, then your DE is broken |
| 19:21.00 | MartijnH | thanks for all the advice :) |
| 19:21.40 | nkuttler | MartijnH: in such cases i simply rm -rf ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf* ~/.config/gnome* and whatever else you can find, but i have backups of course, so you might want to move the files |
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| 19:22.20 | Mousey | Gary22: so, uh.. since root itself is executing the motd adventure files, it's probably a bad idea to put user-specific things in them. further down in the flow (like maybe .bashrc) may be a better place for the user-specific stuff since that'll be executed by the target user and have the environment stuff all populated like you want by then |
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| 19:22.38 | MartijnH | nkuttler, I don't particularly care for custom desktop settings, it was all pretty stock anyway. If I have to recycle the machine it's not a big deal, it's a virtual box. I can still rescue the files I care about from the console |
| 19:22.43 | MartijnH | thanks for the help |
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| 19:23.12 | Mousey | MartijnH: a Buick is a very big fly swatter. try smaller fly swatters first. =) |
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| 19:31.21 | mcurran | Does anybody know a recent update that might be responsible for breaking gnome-shell desktop? |
| 19:31.40 | mcurran | Is there another IRC channel for debian "testing" [jessie/sid]? |
| 19:31.43 | MartijnH | ok, starting in lightdm now works. Let's see if I can get gnome up again too :) |
| 19:31.59 | centrx | mcurran, #debian-next on OFTC |
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| 19:35.02 | MartijnH | and gnome works again too. Thank you all for all the hints, very much appreciate |
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| 19:37.11 | mdel | my baseline memory usage on Ubuntu + Gnome 3: 2.5Gb. Debian: < 500Mb |
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| 19:40.49 | mdel | I did install gnome-core instead of the full package in Debian, but I don't think that would matter much in terms of services and running processes |
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| 19:55.35 | Gusteru | hi, how can I change the date/time with terminal ? |
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| 19:55.52 | centrx | Gusteru, Use the "date" command ? |
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| 19:56.31 | zykotick9 | Gusteru: "aptitude install ntp" ;) |
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| 19:56.40 | Gusteru | zykotick9 my time now is 19:56 and I want to adjust |
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| 19:57.10 | zykotick9 | Gusteru: i was just joking (sorta), ntp automatically sets your time with internet time servers |
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| 20:00.04 | ompaul | Gusteru: apt-get install ntpd and then run ntpdate -u pool.debian.net it will bring your machine to the local time zone as the machine understands it |
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| 20:01.12 | Gusteru | ompaul I want to adjus time with my preferences |
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| 20:01.44 | ompaul | Gusteru: date -s |
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| 20:09.10 | jhutchins | centrx: Just FYI ntpdate is deprecated and will likely be dropped by the ntp project in the near future. Someone else could always pick it up. |
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| 20:09.19 | Brody_ | hi, i had a working machine with windows on it. I then installed Debian on it, overwriting windows completely. During the install grub failed. I finished the install without a bootloader and planned to try installing grub after. Unfortunately the computer hangs at the verifying DMI pool data line. This suggests a hardware problem yet i know the machine works because it had windows working on it. Next I tried a few things like unplugg |
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| 20:09.36 | centrx | Uh oh |
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| 20:10.14 | centrx | jhutchins, Where do you hear that? |
| 20:10.19 | Brody_ | Im pretty much stumped at this point. If anyone can give me a tip that would be great |
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| 20:10.32 | jhutchins | Brody_: Minor correction: You know the machine DID work. |
| 20:10.55 | centrx | jhutchins, If I change the Wikipedia article, will it no longer be deprecated? |
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| 20:11.06 | jhutchins | centrx: ntp project. They feel they have all of the functions covered by ntp and there's no need for ntpdate. |
| 20:11.07 | Brody_ | jhutchins, what i meant was i know the hardware works. |
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| 20:11.31 | jhutchins | Brody_: You know the hardware worked before you did the install. |
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| 20:11.55 | Brody_ | jhutchins can software break hardware? i didnt know that. |
| 20:11.58 | centrx | jhutchins, NTP hasn't had a release in over two years either... |
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| 20:12.01 | jhutchins | Brody_: I'm just pointing out that it could possibly have failed during or just after the install. |
| 20:12.05 | centrx | jhutchins, Don't they realize simple and small is better? |
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| 20:12.23 | bezaban | Brody_: software can break hardware :) |
| 20:12.26 | jhutchins | Brody_: You CAN break hardware with software, but it's more likely just a coincidence - IF it's hardware. |
| 20:12.26 | ompaul | centrx: please feel free to parse and fix it :) |
| 20:12.42 | jhutchins | Brody_: Can you not boot to the installer now? |
| 20:12.43 | centrx | ompaul, What's wrong with it? |
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| 20:12.50 | Brody_ | jhutchins, ah yes you are right, it could have failed coincidentally i suppose. |
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| 20:13.13 | ompaul | centrx: not being part of the future - get in early |
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| 20:13.29 | Brody_ | jhutchins i cannot boot to the installer nope. i have a DVD and I have tested this DVD on 2 other machines and it works. |
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| 20:13.38 | doebi | where does gnome save the wlan passwords? i wnat to recover a saved password |
| 20:13.40 | mtn | Brody_: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000474.htm |
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| 20:14.36 | jhutchins | Brody_: Checking the DMI data pool suggests RAM. I think you said you were re-seating things. You might have an extended memory test in the BIOS. |
| 20:14.40 | mtn | Brody_: could just be a bad dvd drive, try using usb if you can |
| 20:15.58 | Brody_ | jhutchins are you saying i might need to execute memtest86 or something? |
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| 20:16.18 | Brody_ | mtn i think i will buy a new dvd drive and test that tomorrow yea |
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| 20:17.07 | jhutchins | Brody_: No, there's usually a "Fast Boot" option in the BIOS that does only a cursory memory check - disable that/enable POST memcheck. |
| 20:17.25 | jhutchins | Brody_: It doesn't sound like you're getting far enough to memtest. |
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| 20:18.06 | jhutchins | Brody_: Before you buy anything, re-seat the memory modules and all drive cables. |
| 20:18.26 | jhutchins | Brody_: Any cards as well - a badly seated card can stop a boot. |
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| 20:19.55 | Brody_ | mtn its just strange because i used the dvd drive to do the install and so i presumed it was working. however i suppose it could have failed during the install and that could infact be why grub failed to install |
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| 20:20.25 | mtn | Brody_: is possible. do you see the same error when booting without a disk in the drive? |
| 20:20.30 | biglama_ | hi guys, I'm on debian 64 bits and just installed iceweasel for i386 (work-related) |
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| 20:20.48 | biglama_ | but it removed the 64bits iceweasel and a whole bunch of stuff |
| 20:20.52 | biglama_ | can I have both versions ? |
| 20:20.54 | Brody_ | jhutchins ok i will unplug those things and fiddle about more, thanks for these ideas |
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| 20:21.23 | Brody_ | mtn yes i get the same mesage without the dvd in the drive |
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| 20:21.27 | centrx | biglama_, You should be able to with multiarch. How did you install it? |
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| 20:21.38 | mtn | Brody_: ok. not much fun, for sure |
| 20:21.45 | biglama_ | centrx: with apt-get |
| 20:22.01 | centrx | biglama_, What were the package names? Which version of Debian are you using? |
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| 20:23.02 | biglama_ | centrx: everything went crazy when I installed iceweasel:i386 |
| 20:23.12 | biglama_ | i may have enabled the multiarch at some point though |
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| 20:23.42 | biglama_ | uname -a gives Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 |
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| 20:24.05 | Brody_ | jhutchins i cant see this 'fast boot' option in the bios but when turning on the pc it does say press del to enter setup and press esc to skip memory test. ive tried esc but it gets stuck at same line. |
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| 20:24.50 | centrx | biglama_, What does "cat /etc/debian_version" have? |
| 20:25.10 | biglama_ | centrx: 7.4 |
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| 20:25.21 | biglama_ | dpkg --print-architecture only returns amd64 |
| 20:25.22 | dpkg | biglama_: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 20:26.44 | biglama_ | so I just add i386 with dpkg --add-architectures ? |
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| 20:30.26 | stew | biglama_: its probably already there if you run "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" |
| 20:31.06 | biglama_ | stew: right. So what do I do to have both versions ? |
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| 20:31.19 | stew | biglama_: sounds like you do |
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| 20:32.04 | jhutchins | biglama_: Why do you need the 64b version of a web browser? |
| 20:32.42 | stew | biglama_: oh wait, you want both i386 and amd64 versions installed of the same package? |
| 20:33.07 | biglama_ | stew: yes if that's possible |
| 20:33.13 | mjt | you can have, say, 64bit chrome and 32bit firefo^Wiceweasel |
| 20:33.19 | mjt | no that's not possible |
| 20:34.02 | biglama_ | I see, I wanted to avoid possible conflicts in the future |
| 20:34.06 | mjt | which package provides /usr/bin/iceweasel? |
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| 20:34.34 | mjt | it can be only one package |
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| 20:34.55 | biglama_ | right now, iceweasel:i386 |
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| 20:35.20 | biglama_ | it's fine with me but it seems a whole bunch of packages was removed, especially xfce-related |
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| 20:35.26 | biglama_ | can I get them back ? |
| 20:35.39 | mjt | removed by what? |
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| 20:36.50 | biglama_ | iceaweasel needed a dependancy (something like xulrunner I think) and installing it removed lots of other packages |
| 20:37.15 | mjt | nah, it doesn't work like that |
| 20:37.47 | mjt | _removing_ something may remove stuff which depends on it |
| 20:38.00 | biglama_ | it was the i386 version which conflicted with the 64 bits |
| 20:38.07 | mjt | (there's also Conflicts, but.. |
| 20:38.08 | mjt | oh |
| 20:38.31 | mjt | is it jessie? |
| 20:38.48 | biglama_ | wheezy |
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| 20:39.23 | mjt | in wheezy, multiarch - while works, has lots of limitations, that is, many packages aren't marked as multi-arch properlu |
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| 20:39.48 | mjt | this is an example of multiarch in action, when you can use packages from different architecture |
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| 20:40.25 | mjt | so many things conflict with each other and stuff like that, while actually it isn't necessary |
| 20:40.31 | biglama_ | this is confusing for me as you said you cannot have both i386 and amd64 for the same package |
| 20:40.49 | mjt | some packages can be |
| 20:40.50 | dondelelcaro | biglama_: there are only some packages which can have the same package co-installed |
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| 20:41.15 | biglama_ | okay |
| 20:41.23 | mjt | regular binary packages - those who install stuff into /usr/bin/ - can't co-exist |
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| 20:41.29 | mjt | library packages usually can |
| 20:41.32 | biglama_ | so the packages which conflicted have been replaced by the i386 version then ? |
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| 20:42.52 | mjt | xulrunner is not multi-archable |
| 20:42.56 | mjt | in wheezy |
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| 20:43.34 | mjt | and it is like a library, and it is used by a bunch of packages |
| 20:43.51 | biglama_ | it was xulrunner or libstartup-notification0, i don't remember which |
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| 20:44.28 | mjt | both |
| 20:44.43 | biglama_ | okay |
| 20:44.51 | mjt | both are not multi-archable in wheezy |
| 20:44.53 | mjt | on well |
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| 20:45.06 | biglama_ | so nothing was lost during the install ? it just changed the architecture ? |
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| 20:45.32 | mjt | it removed a bunch of packages of your native archi which depends on those 2 pkgs |
| 20:45.53 | slitt_ | What repository(s) do I use for installing flash, minitube, youtube-dl and the like on Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l? |
| 20:46.48 | centrx | slitt_, Adobe Flash and Pepper Flash are in non-free |
| 20:46.53 | mjt | flash is flashplugin-nonfree |
| 20:46.58 | biglama_ | yeah, but now I have lots of "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: |
| 20:46.59 | centrx | slitt_, minitube and youtube-dl are apparently not in wheezy |
| 20:47.40 | slitt_ | centrx, I know. That's why I'm asking about other (unofficial) repositories. |
| 20:48.03 | mjt | biglama_: it looks your best bet is to figure out which package(s) have been removed and re-install them, which will eithr install native xulrunner and startup-notification, or remove the browser... |
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| 20:48.41 | mjt | slitt_: youtube-dl is in testing/jessie and has no dependencies, you can install it from there just fine |
| 20:49.17 | centrx | slitt_, You can backport it yourself fairly easily, if you are on wheezy |
| 20:49.19 | mjt | i mean no deps outside of wheezy |
| 20:49.22 | centrx | dpkg: tell slitt_ about ssb |
| 20:49.40 | mjt | it doesn't even need backporting |
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| 20:50.34 | jubo2 | how do I detatch from a tmux session ? |
| 20:50.36 | mjt | biglama_: there might be one or a few "main" packages which were removed, like, say, gnome-desktop - which is a meta-package which just depends on a bunch of other pkgs. you may want to (re)install just those. |
| 20:52.05 | centrx | mjt, Every package has dependencies... |
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| 20:54.16 | mjt | centrx: no, many don't |
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| 20:55.26 | biglama_ | mjt: yeah, I reinstalled xfce4 so it must have fixed the "essential" but there are still packages "no longer required" |
| 20:55.34 | centrx | mjt, An example? |
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| 20:55.48 | mjt | centrx: a few which i maintain - seabios vgabios |
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| 20:56.38 | jhutchins | Then there are the packages that want to pull in all of gnome including themes. |
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| 20:57.13 | val_erie | I need to set a virtual machine in debian jessie. I installed qemu-kvm and virt-manager. Then I wanted to add user libvirt, but got : " adduser: The group `libvirt' already exists." When I try to start virtual machine manager, I get : Unable to connect to libvirt. Verify that the 'libvirtd' daemon is running. The command /etc/init.d/libvirtd start gives me ash: /etc/init.d/libvirtd: No such file or directory |
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| 20:57.26 | Brody_ | jhutchins you mentioned the ram might be the issue. i have 1 stick of ram and 3 slots. currently the ram is in the slot it has always ben in for its windows life. is it worth trying to boot with the ram in all 3 different slots? |
| 20:57.52 | Brody_ | im at the stage where all i have left to try it unplug it and plug it back in again lol. TT |
| 20:58.01 | centrx | mjt, Do they implicitly depend on Essential packages? |
| 20:58.43 | mjt | centrx: there's no dependency on essentials, those are just always installed. dpkg can't work without these |
| 20:58.52 | Brody_ | computing has never been so glamourous |
| 20:59.11 | mjt | centrx: but i already corrected my omission anyway :) |
| 20:59.15 | jhutchins | Brody_: Exactly, that's what "re-seat" means. |
| 20:59.41 | jhutchins | Brody_: I had one instance where I cleaned the contacts on a DIMM with a pencil eraser and the RAM recovered perfectly. |
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| 21:00.25 | jhutchins | Brody_: Do that with the DIMM, all cables, and any cards. |
| 21:00.40 | mjt | it is very unlikely to help ;) |
| 21:00.43 | Brody_ | jhutchins ah right, i cant reseat the graphics card because there is only 1 slot, but the monitor is working so do i presume the graphics card isnt the issue |
| 21:00.52 | jhutchins | Brody_: Also, you might look at the voltages reported in the BIOS. |
| 21:01.19 | jhutchins | Brody_: re-seat assumes putting it back the way it was. |
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| 21:01.37 | jhutchins | Brody_: This is a variation on "wiggle it". |
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| 21:01.55 | jhutchins | Brody_: Very scientific. |
| 21:02.03 | Brody_ | jhutchnis fantastic, maybe i can get a job in IT soon haha |
| 21:02.41 | jhutchins | Brody_: Well, if you've managed to destroy one computer that's a start! |
| 21:02.53 | Brody_ | jhutchins :) brilliant |
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| 21:05.32 | biglama_ | apparently, you can't have xfce4 and iceweasel:i386 :( |
| 21:07.04 | zophy | hi |
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| 21:07.25 | zophy | is debian robust and fault tolerant ? |
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| 21:08.03 | ompaul | zophy: fault tolerant of what? |
| 21:08.17 | jhutchins | zophy: Yes, reasonably. As tolerant as any PC OS. |
| 21:08.31 | ompaul | zophy: people mucking around with it's guts in random ways ... might be a bad idea |
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| 21:08.51 | jhutchins | zophy: What kind of faults did you want it to tolerate? |
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| 21:09.47 | ompaul | jhutchins: nuclear strikes! |
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| 21:09.49 | ompaul | nn |
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| 21:10.15 | jhutchins | 14,000 volts across the CPU is probably not going to be tolerated very well. (True story.) |
| 21:10.18 | zophy | well, could a user destroy the filesystem of a debian system ? |
| 21:10.51 | jhutchins | zophy: Depends on the user. |
| 21:11.04 | jhutchins | zophy: Depends on how secure you've made the system. |
| 21:11.12 | jhutchins | zophy: If they have physical access, always. |
| 21:11.17 | zophy | jhutchins, honda generators are wicked on ethernet ports |
| 21:11.38 | zophy | brummm brummm |
| 21:11.59 | arthurfiggis | jhutchins: maybe it might have taken a little while with those 80's era laptops made of solid magnesium outer shells :P |
| 21:12.04 | GNU\colossus | does anyone in here self-host a webrtc enabled server on Wheezy? |
| 21:12.32 | slitt_ | centrx , I'm not positive I'm on Wheezy and don't know how to tell. My /etc/issue is "Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l" |
| 21:12.49 | centrx | slitt_, That generally means wheezy |
| 21:13.01 | Brody_ | yay i put the ram into a different slot and finally, i got a different error code. i was getting rather bored of the other one. |
| 21:13.33 | zophy | Wheezy is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 7.0, released on 2013-05-04: http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504 |
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| 21:14.17 | jhutchins | Brody_: There ya go! Science! |
| 21:14.44 | Brody_ | jhutchins note to self, more wiggling in future |
| 21:15.06 | slitt_ | Thanks centrx . Do you have an online documentation recommendation for a Ubuntu guy to learn the ins and outs of Debian? |
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| 21:15.45 | centrx | slitt_, For this particular subject, http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 21:16.02 | centrx | slitt_, Ubuntu is similar to Debian in many things. |
| 21:16.11 | jhutchins | Brody_: It's probably telling you something like "invalid configuration" now, most modern boards require you to fill the slots in order. |
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| 21:16.34 | arthurfiggis | slitt_: for specific things i always start at https://wiki.debian.org/ :) but it has an easy way of browsing around general topics as well |
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| 21:17.14 | Brody_ | jhutchins the new message is 'cmos checksum error - defaults loaded' . im searching now ofcourse, preliminary scans say change the cmos mobo battery |
| 21:17.45 | slitt_ | Thanks arthurfiggis and centrx . I'll look these over. One would think Ubuntu would be similar to Debian, but I have that "you're not in Kansas anymore" feeling in Debian. |
| 21:17.48 | Brody_ | jhutchins but yea i think its just as you say, in the wrong order |
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| 21:19.14 | jhutchins | Brody_: The checksum error shouldn't actually stop it from booting, just reset any options you saved. |
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| 21:23.19 | arthurfiggis | slitt_: oh yes, well there are certainly differences in a lot of areas, but as someone who moved from ubuntu (and before that many, many other distro's), i can say that it doesn't take too long to get used to things :) i've also found that i tend to get better answers and help with things here when a problem has come up, so there's that too! |
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| 21:29.22 | Brody_ | jhutchins ah darn. yea the boot order had reset, so i changed the boot order back to dvd first and saved. the machine hangs on 'verifying dmi pool data' again. the first time it had added a message 'update success'. i reset and it now goes straight to the original error message of just 'verifying dmi pool data'. |
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| 21:30.01 | Brody_ | so it seems i can boot with the ram in the other slots though. |
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| 21:32.57 | jhutchins | Brody_: What about creating a bootable USB and tryin gthat? |
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| 21:45.05 | Brody_ | jhutchins i have an idea and i cant find info saying either way. my hard drive is on primary master, the dvd is on secondary slave. the two middle slots are empty currently. previously they were set to floppy and cd. does this matter? would it be wise to set up the dvd drive to be primary slave or perhaps secondary master? in order to do so i will have to get the screwdriver and move the drives around because the cables are too short |
| 21:45.10 | Brody_ | first incase its pointless. |
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| 21:50.55 | frostschutz | Brody_, it should not matter, as long as the drives work in general |
| 21:51.07 | frostschutz | Brody_, if you put hdd and cdrom on the same cable, the cdrom will slow down the hdd a lot |
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| 21:52.36 | Brody_ | jhutchins good idea with the usb, i have a 2gb stick so its an option. back to jigdo i suppose. the thing is im not really convinced the dvd drive is the problem. hmm, imagine a machine without grub installed. what point should it reach. should it get past the verifying dmi pool data line? |
| 21:52.45 | Brody_ | frostschutz thanks |
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| 21:53.03 | Imbue | hello |
| 21:53.21 | Imbue | does anyone know what will happen if /boot is not mounted at the time that I perform some apt-get update that requires it? |
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| 21:53.46 | Imbue | i guess it depends on the individual script, but do they generally fail safely and/or prompt? or will i silently end up with a kernel lacking whatever i just installed? |
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| 22:06.46 | edgardoweb_ | hi |
| 22:06.58 | edgardoweb_ | how are uoy people? |
| 22:08.20 | jhutchins | Imbue: Most likely outcome is that the files that would have been installed would be installed at the mount point in / |
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| 22:08.48 | Imbue | jhutchins: ok, so I will end up with some files in /boot on my root partition |
| 22:08.48 | jhutchins | Imbue: This is one of the reasons a separate boot partition is a bad idea. |
| 22:08.50 | Imbue | i see |
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| 22:09.53 | jhutchins | Imbue: The two things to worry about are updates to the kernel or to grub. |
| 22:10.06 | Imbue | i don't really know enough about kernel updates to understand how the modification is done |
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| 22:10.18 | jhutchins | Imbue: There used to be some security sugggestions that kept /boot un-mounted, but they're really pretty obsolete. |
| 22:10.24 | Imbue | wouldn't you have to read back /boot/initrd.. or /boot/image... in order to modify them? |
| 22:10.29 | Imbue | jhutchins: I have /boot on USB |
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| 22:10.48 | Imbue | maybe if i get a small one that is not possible to knock out I can just leave it in |
| 22:11.05 | jhutchins | Imbue: Yes, the initrd if any modules got updated. |
| 22:11.26 | jhutchins | Imbue: The question is wy do it at all? |
| 22:13.17 | Imbue | jhutchins: hmm, the other option is to put the whole fs on usb which seems a bit OTT |
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| 22:16.17 | jhutchins | Imbue: That'll be pretty slow unless you use a tuned setup like http://pendrivelinux.com |
| 22:16.24 | Imbue | indeed |
| 22:16.30 | jhutchins | Imbue: Why not just put /boot on whatever has /? |
| 22:16.46 | Imbue | it means that boot is unencrypted |
| 22:16.57 | Imbue | so you have a drive with unencrypted /boot and encrypted / |
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| 22:17.11 | Imbue | i guess it is not much of a step up to modify the usb |
| 22:17.30 | Imbue | but if I can find some solution to the upgrade problem it is worth it to me |
| 22:17.36 | jhutchins | Imbue: Well, just check to be sure it's mounted before you install updates. |
| 22:17.39 | Imbue | maybe I could chmod 000 /boot on the rootfs? |
| 22:17.46 | Imbue | that way things will very visibly fail on update |
| 22:17.51 | jhutchins | Imbue: Bad idea. |
| 22:18.01 | Imbue | :D |
| 22:18.15 | jhutchins | Imbue: I don't mess with encryption myself, but I believe an encrypted /boot is possible. I know no details. |
| 22:18.26 | Imbue | hmm |
| 22:18.35 | Imbue | if i symlink /boot to say /boot2 |
| 22:18.48 | Imbue | boot2 can contain the contents of the usb |
| 22:19.24 | Imbue | actually no this is silly, there is no need |
| 22:19.27 | bezaban | I don't think encrypted /boot works - one approach used is having /boot on removable media. This also prevents evil maid attacks if you also have the boot sector there |
| 22:19.46 | Imbue | bezaban this is what we are discussing, /boot on removable media, the issue is that it needs to be mounted during upgrades |
| 22:20.06 | Imbue | bezaban but apt-get doesn't really warn and it is not always obvious when the kernel is being upgraded |
| 22:20.23 | bezaban | Imbue: oh right, sorry - hopped in without reading enough backlog |
| 22:20.29 | Imbue | i am thinking that if i leave /boot (on the encrypted rootfs) containing everything it needs to |
| 22:20.39 | Imbue | then copy it back to the USB whenever it's been updated, that might work |
| 22:20.50 | bezaban | to be fair it does *say* when the kernel is going to be upgraded |
| 22:20.54 | Imbue | the only issue is that grub installs might break the config |
| 22:21.19 | bezaban | or that yeah, if the device is not mounted it will just stick the stuff on the fs where the mount point is :) |
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| 22:21.30 | Brody_ | ive wiggled and jiggled everything thoroughly now. still hanging on verifying dmi pool data. if anyone has a tip that would be great, cheers. |
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| 22:22.00 | bezaban | usually you should be able to boot an old kernel/bootloader anyway |
| 22:22.13 | Imbue | right, that was my thought |
| 22:22.29 | Imbue | i just need to keep an eye on apt-get and i should be ok |
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| 22:23.13 | bezaban | Imbue: it's entirely doable :) |
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| 22:24.12 | Imbue | to be honest if my system breaks as long as I have /home it doesn't matter too much |
| 22:24.18 | dave_den | would anyone be willing to try rebuilding https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/python-sss real quick? I have all the deps installed on my wheezy box, and the compile finishes but the dh-installer pukes on missing files |
| 22:24.18 | Brody_ | hmm im just thinking aloud here and i am a noob so i could be completely wrong but my problem all started when grub failed to install. therefore im thinking that maybe the grub installation step was trying to do something that the other installation steps didnt. |
| 22:24.29 | Imbue | i am usually in a state of having base debian + a few metapackages anyway :P |
| 22:25.32 | jhutchins | Brody_: I don't think you're getting as far as reading the disks. |
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| 22:27.39 | jhutchins | Brody_: Actually, checking some references, it seems that it's likely that it's just a bad grub install, and if you could boot to something else you could fix it. |
| 22:27.58 | jhutchins | Brody_: I don't know why it won't boot to the DVD. Maybe it got scratched? |
| 22:28.22 | Brody_ | jhutchins nah the DVD works in 2 other pcs |
| 22:28.26 | jhutchins | Brody_: It stops in the same place whether or not the DVD is in? Does the DVD LED light up like it's trying to read? |
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| 22:31.35 | Brody_ | jhutchins yes the dvd drive flashes, it spins the dvd too you can feel it, and it ejects too. and yes the machine hangs on verifying dmi pool data with out the dvd in the drive |
| 22:33.05 | jhutchins | Brody_: WHat about booting from a USB key? |
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| 22:34.46 | Brody_ | jhutchins ok, i think i will a usb pen tomorrow and i will try changing the dvd drive for a different one too. thanks for all the help tonight. i really appreciate it |
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| 22:36.21 | jhutchins | Brody_: Good luck. |
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| 22:42.55 | brontosaurusrex | is there something small i can use from cli that could make a short sound, like beep |
| 22:43.26 | petn-randall | brontosaurusrex: Why not use beep? |
| 22:43.30 | Mousey | beep |
| 22:43.42 | brontosaurusrex | there's beep? :) |
| 22:44.07 | brontosaurusrex | beep - advanced pc-speaker beeper < ? |
| 22:44.18 | petn-randall | brontosaurusrex: You mean the binary or the package? Yes to both :) |
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| 22:45.25 | Mousey | apt-get install beep |
| 22:45.38 | brontosaurusrex | nice |
| 22:45.47 | Mousey | we're here for ya |
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| 22:47.02 | petn-randall | Glad we solved that ;) |
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| 22:47.48 | brontosaurusrex | sleep 2 && beep && beep && beep < that must be the best command line ever entered |
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| 23:03.02 | linuxator | how to get windows aligned to the center of screen in gnome? |
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| 23:08.50 | slitt_ | I just installed Wheezy, and my sound doesn't work, and I can find no way to get it to work. Here's the output of lshw concerning the audio: http://paste.debian.net/84252/ |
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| 23:14.15 | BugBite | slitt_ the only thing i can suggest is rightmouse on the volume ican and re-check the properties on all tabs |
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| 23:19.10 | slitt_ | BugBite, I'm not using Gnome (I'm using Xfce) and have no volume icon. What program would I run? pavucontrol config shows no sound card. |
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| 23:21.32 | BugBite | tou have loaded driver=snd_hda_intel on an AMD soundcard. |
| 23:21.49 | BugBite | i think the driver aint good. |
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| 23:22.12 | p8952 | Where can I find the sources which are used to build linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64_3.2.46-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb ? |
| 23:22.18 | BugBite | I can't help any further. |
| 23:22.35 | BugBite | deb src |
| 23:23.15 | centrx | p8952, All sources are available from deb-src sources in apt-get, or from the Debian website |
| 23:23.15 | Mousey | apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r` |
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| 23:24.12 | p8952 | awesome, thanks very much all three of you :) |
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| 23:29.16 | dioz | people LOOOVE to argue |
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| 23:30.01 | kumadoge | no they don't! |
| 23:30.22 | BugBite | thinks they should shutup and DO more. |
| 23:32.59 | Mousey | needs to follow that advice himself |
| 23:33.34 | Mousey | slitt_: consider veromix |
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| 23:37.08 | slitt_ | Thanks Mousey , I installed veromix, and it listed the one and only device as "Dummy Output". |
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| 23:45.27 | Mousey | that explains why you have no mixer icon |
| 23:45.38 | Mousey | says to the netsplitted slitt_ |
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| 23:50.51 | DungeonCrit | Hi, i want to ask a question: my cellphone is blackberry Q10,os 10.2, when i link my cellphone with debian, it shows that "Failed to mount "16 GB Filesystem"Not Authorized " how to solve this problem,Thanks very much! |
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| 23:52.41 | slitt_ | Mousey, BugBite , thanks! It turns out once I rebooted, the sound worked. LOL. |
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