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| 00:09.46 | AlexLikeRock | wen i burn a DVD - DATA |
| 00:09.55 | AlexLikeRock | the file are 5.7 GB |
| 00:10.06 | AlexLikeRock | and k3b say: |
| 00:10.08 | AlexLikeRock | Found files bigger than 2 GB. these files will only be fullyaccessible if mounted with UDF |
| 00:10.25 | AlexLikeRock | and not wirte into the DVD |
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| 00:10.28 | AlexLikeRock | :-( |
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| 00:11.45 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: The first is only a warning. How does it fail to burn? |
| 00:12.07 | AlexLikeRock | yes , falied 3 times |
| 00:12.30 | AlexLikeRock | they goin "burning " and finish satisfactory , |
| 00:12.40 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:13.32 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: What do you mean with them being white? They're unreadable? |
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| 00:15.27 | zykotick9 | notes 5.7GB is a lot bigger then the 4.4GB DVDs he is use to... |
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| 00:15.49 | petn-randall | nods. |
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| 00:16.04 | AlexLikeRock | petn-randall, working ..... http://picpaste.com/k3b-QFBYh0is.png |
| 00:16.46 | AlexLikeRock | petn-randall, write finish http://picpaste.com/k3b-finish-VBokwuAn.png |
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| 00:17.28 | petn-randall | so ... ? |
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| 00:20.00 | AlexLikeRock | petn-randall, http://picpaste.com/k3b-poswrite-dvd-empy-rDdgPhhP.png |
| 00:20.10 | AlexLikeRock | DVD are empy |
| 00:20.43 | AlexLikeRock | no write really |
| 00:20.53 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: Can you burn them again? |
| 00:21.05 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 00:21.09 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: Also, check the logs in /var/log/, especially kern.log for any errors. |
| 00:21.20 | AlexLikeRock | this time will be a 5th time :) |
| 00:21.42 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: Can you picpaste the actual screen before burning? |
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| 00:27.51 | AlexLikeRock | need paste |
| 00:28.23 | AlexLikeRock | paste.debian.net |
| 00:28.23 | AlexLikeRock | Could not add your entry to the paste database: |
| 00:28.23 | AlexLikeRock | Length of code is not allowed to exceed 150kB |
| 00:28.33 | AlexLikeRock | need other paste bin |
| 00:28.38 | ParkerR | pastebin, hastebin, pastee |
| 00:28.40 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.44 | AlexLikeRock | tnaks |
| 00:28.47 | ExeciN | When I insert a flash drive on my computer it gets automatically mounted but I cannot browse it's filesystem unless I unmount it as root. Then I can mount it using thunar and browse it's filesystem like it should. |
| 00:28.48 | Mousey | pastie |
| 00:29.09 | Mousey | sounds like competing automounters |
| 00:29.17 | ExeciN | How can I prevent inserted volumes to be automatically mounted |
| 00:29.28 | AlexLikeRock | pastie.org Your paste cannot be larger than 64 kb. Sorry. |
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| 00:30.54 | AlexLikeRock | paste.lisp.org Paste too large. |
| 00:31.20 | mdel | hmm, any tips on getting a good kernel log before and after sleep? |
| 00:31.27 | centrx | Didn't you just use picpaste.com ... |
| 00:31.29 | mdel | aside from remembering line numbers |
| 00:31.45 | AlexLikeRock | petn-randall, http://paste2.org/J3f8MFDf |
| 00:33.29 | AlexLikeRock | my burner are SAMSUNG |
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| 00:38.59 | AlexLikeRock | any one to help me ? |
| 00:39.31 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: Can you even burn 5.7 on those disks? How large is their capacity? |
| 00:40.03 | AlexLikeRock | sorry . 4.9 GB |
| 00:40.43 | AlexLikeRock | and the DVD are double layer of 8 GB |
| 00:41.09 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: You're getting read errors on those disks, either the burner or the disks are faulty. |
| 00:41.53 | AlexLikeRock | nop |
| 00:42.03 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: Gotta catch some sleep, but I'm sure someone else can help you here. See you! |
| 00:42.26 | AlexLikeRock | whit this DVD , not say noting |
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| 00:44.51 | AlexLikeRock | report a bug ? |
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| 00:46.36 | KryptoNite | hello everyone |
| 00:47.12 | KryptoNite | I need some help with getting a touchpad working on a toshiba ultrabook |
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| 00:47.56 | KryptoNite | The touchpad is an elan, I have installed synaptics drivers using apt-get install synaptics |
| 00:48.32 | KryptoNite | Xorg log does not show it being detected, oddly enough the touchscreen is working in a limited set |
| 00:48.48 | KryptoNite | Can anyone help me? |
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| 00:53.46 | KryptoNite | external mouse works |
| 00:54.22 | AlexLikeRock | any one to help me ? |
| 00:54.42 | KryptoNite | Seems like they are all asleep Alex |
| 00:54.55 | KryptoNite | just posted same question several minutes ago |
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| 00:57.12 | AlexLikeRock | tanks KryptoNite |
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| 01:30.18 | melt7777 | I am trying to install the firmware-linux-nonfree package. All four lines in /etc/apt/sources.list show main contrib non-free, and I've run apt-get update. I still cannot find how to do this. I am guessing because that package is in wheezy, but my installation (latest 7.4 amd64) is wheezy-testing. I don't believe I should add wheezy repos to my sources.list without asking if there is a better way, short of downloading manually? I |
| 01:30.18 | melt7777 | 've read all the wikis as well before asking. |
| 01:31.17 | abrotman | melt7777: can you patsebin your sources.list ? |
| 01:31.34 | abrotman | melt7777: you did run 'aptitude update' after changing the file ? |
| 01:31.47 | AlexLikeRock | what of this hoice ? |
| 01:31.49 | AlexLikeRock | http://picpaste.com/BUG-choice-qdWJzjUp.png |
| 01:32.22 | melt7777 | i ran apt-get update.... isn't that the rawest form? |
| 01:32.34 | AlexLikeRock | the last time i sumit by : " sumit the bug report via email" |
| 01:32.34 | abrotman | rawest? |
| 01:32.41 | AlexLikeRock | an not send my bug :-( |
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| 01:32.54 | melt7777 | yes, as in, aptitude is the higher level of apt-get |
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| 01:33.08 | abrotman | melt7777: either one is fine .. yes |
| 01:33.15 | abrotman | melt7777: pastebin your sources.list please |
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| 01:34.19 | AlexLikeRock | what of this hoice ? |
| 01:34.19 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.20 | AlexLikeRock | the last time i sumit by : " sumit the bug report via email" |
| 01:34.28 | AlexLikeRock | and not send my bug :-( |
| 01:35.12 | themill | you probably need to run "reportbug --configure" |
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| 01:35.28 | melt7777 | working on it |
| 01:35.44 | vimel | abrotman: if i need to find ethernet firmware, AND wlan usb firmware for Internet connectivity, lspci is for ethernet and lsusb is for wlan usb, can you tell me the actual commands to find both? i have seen it before in here but did not write it down. |
| 01:35.59 | melt7777 | http://pastebin.com/sJ8jsnzd |
| 01:36.14 | AlexLikeRock | themill, Will reportbug often have direct Internet access? (You should answer yes to this question unless you know what you are doing and plan to check whether duplicate reports have been filed via some other channel.) |
| 01:36.17 | AlexLikeRock | yes or no ? |
| 01:36.59 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 01:37.24 | AlexLikeRock | Do you have a "mail transport agent" (MTA) like Exim, Postfix or SSMTP configured on this computer to send mail to the Internet? |
| 01:37.28 | AlexLikeRock | yes or no ? |
| 01:37.33 | AlexLikeRock | themill, |
| 01:37.53 | AlexLikeRock | that mean SERVER MAIIL ? |
| 01:37.55 | melt7777 | alexlikerock these questions should be answered by you |
| 01:38.12 | AlexLikeRock | netkat, is confuced for me |
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| 01:38.17 | melt7777 | alexlikerock it is asking you if you have your outbound mail configured |
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| 01:38.35 | AlexLikeRock | nop |
| 01:38.49 | melt7777 | alexlikerock those are outbound mail servers. if you don't, then answer no |
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| 01:39.12 | AlexLikeRock | tanks melt7777 |
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| 01:39.19 | melt7777 | alex np |
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| 01:39.36 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
| 01:39.37 | melt7777 | its trying to figure out how to send out the bug report i am guessing |
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| 01:39.50 | AlexLikeRock | how many time i need wait ? |
| 01:40.01 | AlexLikeRock | to recibe a number of bug ? |
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| 01:43.14 | vimel | does anyone know? i need to find the driver for ethernet and wlan usb. |
| 01:43.16 | slitt_ | I have weezy: I got Iceweasel to play Youtube videos, but can't get vlc, smplayer, mplayer, or totem to play Youtube videos. Anyone know how? |
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| 01:45.31 | melt7777 | alex, my observation, is that you do not have the required experience level to report bugs - most likely your 'bugs' are due to inexperience |
| 01:45.34 | abrotman | vimel: confused ? |
| 01:45.50 | abrotman | dpkg: tell melt7777 about wheezy sources.list |
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| 01:46.33 | melt7777 | okay so i need wheezy as well as wheezy/updates |
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| 01:46.43 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:46.48 | abrotman | melt7777: and please don't use ftp.debian.org |
| 01:46.55 | melt7777 | interesting that it is not the default |
| 01:47.15 | abrotman | it is if you have internet when you install |
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| 01:47.31 | melt7777 | Yes, I believe part of this problem was that i was not connected. I am going to reinstall with internet. |
| 01:47.53 | abrotman | why? |
| 01:47.54 | melt7777 | that will give me the correct lines and also a better mirror i am guessing. |
| 01:48.03 | abrotman | just setup the sources that the bot gave you and everything will be okay |
| 01:48.28 | melt7777 | I'm concerned that i may have missed something else by having no internet during installation. |
| 01:48.30 | binary1985 | hey team, i just got my debian system setup using sw raid0, got my cataylst control center installed along with opencl sdk. have my 3 screens working good in xinerama. however it seems that only one of my graphics cards are being used, for example when using oclhashcat. could someone take a peek at my xorg and see if i have it setup right? |
| 01:48.38 | abrotman | melt7777: not likely, not worth a reinstall |
| 01:49.08 | melt7777 | okay, thank you abrotman, i knew it was something simple that i was missing. work with all of the downstream distros and thought i would step up to Daddy Debian :) |
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| 01:51.58 | carrera | what does aptitude update failed to fetch main SourceIndex mean? |
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| 01:54.55 | changegu1 | hey, can anyone help me? |
| 01:55.04 | SirLagz | changegu1: no |
| 01:55.10 | changegu1 | I need to set up a finger server on a coke vending machine |
| 01:55.44 | SirLagz | changegu1: and is something going wrong ? have you tried something and it didn't respond the way it should have ? |
| 01:56.52 | changegu1 | well im trying to get it to sync up with my toaster so that when it pops, it sends a file through scp that will display the current breakfast I'm having on the machine |
| 01:57.13 | changegu1 | i heard linux is good for that stuff |
| 01:59.02 | AlexLikeRock | my bug are not sended !!!!! :-@ |
| 01:59.20 | changegu1 | ok sorry |
| 01:59.41 | yogurt2ungue | como estas? |
| 01:59.42 | changegu1 | lol. actual question: can you mount a hardrive over a network and use it like it was a local filesystem |
| 01:59.57 | SirLagz | changegu1: "yes" |
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| 02:00.13 | changegu1 | SirLagz: can it even be over the internet? |
| 02:00.17 | SirLagz | "yes" |
| 02:00.39 | changegu1 | SirLagz: can you name me a search time for me to investigate further? |
| 02:01.03 | SirLagz | NFS over Internet |
| 02:01.43 | changegu1 | thank you |
| 02:01.57 | vimel | abrotman: not really. i just thought i saw a command in here for finding my ethernet and wlan cards faster. rather than wading through the basic commands of lsusb and lspci. sorry for the late reply was washing dishes :D |
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| 02:06.10 | abrotman | vimel: might help us if you tell us what they are |
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| 02:13.16 | vimel | abrotman: say i can not connect to the web. from a fresh install of wheezy. im trying to find the commands to type to find my drivers. |
| 02:13.24 | vimel | for both ethernet and wlan |
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| 02:14.05 | vimel | once i know these i can go download the appropriate driver from a web enabled device and finally install them on my debian machine. |
| 02:14.31 | AlexLikeRock | how to active UDF in my kernel ? |
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| 02:18.55 | abrotman | vimel: lspci -nn | grep -i net |
| 02:19.05 | abrotman | dpkg: tell vimel about firmware images |
| 02:20.12 | vimel | abrotman: very cool thats one of the commands i was looking for. for some reason when i type "lspci -nn|grep -i network" i just get a return prompt. |
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| 02:20.18 | vimel | abrotman: the command you gave me works tho. |
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| 02:21.02 | vimel | i also wanted to know the usb wlan if possible. |
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| 02:22.35 | K1rk_ | vimel: I suggest you approach it and introduce yourself. |
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| 02:23.04 | vimel | mm. ill just stick w the simple lsusb and wade through it. |
| 02:23.14 | K1rk_ | lol |
| 02:23.17 | abrotman | vimel: if you look at what the bot told you, they're installer images that have the firmware already |
| 02:23.18 | K1rk_ | try lsusb | grep Network |
| 02:23.20 | vimel | abrotman: i have that debian installation guide. i will need to read it. |
| 02:23.22 | K1rk_ | or lshw -C network |
| 02:23.33 | K1rk_ | Assuming you have lshw installed |
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| 02:24.03 | vimel | lsusb | grep Network just gives me a return prompt. no output. |
| 02:24.24 | K1rk_ | erm I know that works for lspci but the output of lsusb may be different come to think of it. |
| 02:24.24 | vimel | abrotman: i have read some of it. well most of it actually. |
| 02:24.39 | K1rk_ | Yeah probably should just run lsusb and look at it |
| 02:24.44 | K1rk_ | How many USB devices could you possibly have... 8? |
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| 02:25.22 | vimel | ya it gives me what i need. just though i could run a command similar to finding your ethernet which actually points to the chipset. but ya lsusb works fine. ty |
| 02:25.27 | rabbitea1_sdf | http://tllts.org |
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| 02:26.41 | vimel | abrotman: i also found this on the debian wiki which does pretty much what i am looking for also: lsusb -v | grep -E '\<(Bus|iProduct|bDeviceClass|bDeviceProtocol)' 2>/dev/null |
| 02:26.49 | abrotman | rabbitea1_sdf: wrong channel? |
| 02:27.01 | abrotman | okay then |
| 02:27.27 | vimel | i was just hoping for less fluff :D |
| 02:27.36 | vimel | abrotman: thanks. |
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| 02:41.25 | nomasteryoda | ls |
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| 02:53.54 | AlexLikeRock | growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao -use-the-force-luke=break:1913760 -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/sr1='/media/usuario/movie.mov' |
| 02:54.13 | AlexLikeRock | ..... |
| 02:54.15 | AlexLikeRock | 1344634880/5276228766 (25.5%) @0.0x, remaining 14:28 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% |
| 02:54.15 | AlexLikeRock | :-[ WRITE@LBA=a04b0h failed with SK=3h/WRITE ERROR]: Input/output error |
| 02:54.15 | AlexLikeRock | :-( write failed: Input/output error |
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| 02:55.45 | changegu1 | another question: I have a squeeze box, and the image was set up in a way that dosen't allow a user account to access the network. can I fix this |
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| 02:58.33 | changegu1 | root can access it fine |
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| 03:00.20 | abrotman | that doesn't even make sense |
| 03:00.33 | changegu1 | the normal users cant ping or anything |
| 03:01.10 | Ritzton | Hello |
| 03:01.17 | abrotman | changegu1: i'd like to see proof of that |
| 03:01.33 | abrotman | eh, maybe not .. it might be too ltae :) |
| 03:01.59 | Ritzton | I have installed dovecot and postfix and I am wondering how I can transfer all the mails from a mailbox to another mailbox in another server ? |
| 03:03.35 | abrotman | Ritzton: there are tons of docs about this |
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| 03:03.54 | changegu1 | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/84272/ |
| 03:05.05 | changegu1 | abrotman: proof enough? |
| 03:06.06 | Ritzton | abrotman> so what would you use ? imapsync ? |
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| 03:09.03 | abrotman | changegu1: that's not what that means at all |
| 03:09.09 | abrotman | Ritzton: that's one option |
| 03:09.12 | abrotman | changegu1: ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 03:09.48 | Ritzton | abrotman> I know it is one option... |
| 03:09.51 | carrera | Hi abrotman |
| 03:10.11 | abrotman | hi? |
| 03:10.18 | carrera | abrotman, aptitude can't update. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache |
| 03:10.33 | abrotman | carrera: pastebin the full output |
| 03:10.43 | carrera | ok |
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| 03:12.27 | wood_quinn | I have a fresh installation of Debian 7.3 Wheezy here, and I didn' add a user during installation. |
| 03:12.44 | wood_quinn | After installation I added a user using "adduser mediacenter" |
| 03:13.01 | carrera | abrotman, please see http://pastebin.com/sQs6iwxe |
| 03:13.21 | abrotman | changegu1: and? |
| 03:13.21 | wood_quinn | I can't play audio using VLC, even though alsamixer and the mixer applet both show the device is not muted or turned all the way down. |
| 03:13.39 | wood_quinn | I tried adding the user to the audio group and relogging, but that had no effect. |
| 03:13.45 | abrotman | carrera: the important part is all the hash .. try a different mirror |
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| 03:14.26 | abrotman | carrera: plenty of mnirrors in Canada, pick on enear you |
| 03:14.27 | wood_quinn | VLC complains that it can't connect to the PulseAudio server, but that boggles me since I have tried both the default settings and telling it to use the ALSA playback module. PulseAudio didn't even get installed by default and I don't particularly want to add it. |
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| 03:15.23 | wood_quinn | What can I do to fix this, save reinstalling and adding a (more privileged) user during installation or installing PulseAudio and vlc-plugins-pulse and crossing my fingers |
| 03:16.22 | carrera | abrotman, can I detect a new mirror using a gui tool in xfce? |
| 03:16.24 | wood_quinn | I have libpulse0 and vlc-plugin-pulse installed after all. |
| 03:16.37 | wood_quinn | However the remainder of my question still stands. |
| 03:16.56 | abrotman | carrera: not that I know of |
| 03:17.09 | abrotman | carrera: oh, maybe with synaptic |
| 03:17.34 | carrera | abrotman, so I should just pick a mirror form the site and modify the file |
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| 03:18.58 | abrotman | easy enough to do, right ? |
| 03:19.03 | abrotman | dpkg: tell carrera about wheezy sources.list |
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| 03:21.47 | towski_ | i accidentally marked some packages for upgrade and want to unmark them |
| 03:22.15 | towski_ | I specified an updated version, so it says: "the following packages will be upgraded" |
| 03:22.19 | towski_ | but I don't want it to do that |
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| 03:25.50 | towski_ | hm synaptic unmark isn't working |
| 03:25.55 | wood_quinn | Oh cool. |
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| 03:26.13 | wood_quinn | So my other machine's VLC can't play audio either. |
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| 03:28.31 | wood_quinn | So any help, or do I have to ask an apt-get question. |
| 03:28.56 | wood_quinn | Because I've got two machines that can't play audio OOTB, and that's kinda flippin unacceptable. |
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| 03:32.17 | wood_quinn | Fuck you people. So sick and tired of bothering with this channel. |
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| 03:32.25 | abrotman | wood_quinn: |
| 03:32.27 | abrotman | or not ... |
| 03:32.36 | abrotman | was about to ask questions .. oh well |
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| 03:35.16 | jbds | anyone running debian or any linux smoothly on a tablet/smart phone? |
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| 03:37.08 | centrx | jbds, Yeah, it's called Android :) |
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| 03:37.31 | jbds | centrx: never heard of it :) |
| 03:38.03 | jbds | looking for a phone/tablet on amazon, any suggestions? looking for compatibility w/linux |
| 03:38.22 | jbds | such as ubuntu touch, or a small vers or debian |
| 03:39.10 | centrx | jbds, The relevant Debian project is called Emdebian, and there is a channel for Debian mobile: #debian-mobile on OFTC |
| 03:39.18 | centrx | jbds, There is some info on the wiki about it |
| 03:39.30 | abrotman | wiki.debian.org/Mobile IIRC |
| 03:40.48 | jbds | thanks |
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| 03:45.37 | changegu1 | abrotman: when i ping 8.8.8.8 i get |
| 03:45.42 | changegu1 | socket: Permission denied |
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| 03:51.24 | changegu1 | abrotman: so you see, it actually dosen't give premission to access the network for lusers |
| 03:51.56 | abrotman | changegu1: that's pretty interesting |
| 03:52.09 | changegu1 | lol....interestings not good |
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| 03:52.59 | abrotman | changegu1: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 03:53.08 | changegu1 | no |
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| 03:53.28 | changegu1 | it was an image i d/led for my phone. i chroot into it |
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| 03:53.34 | abrotman | oh ... |
| 03:54.11 | abrotman | As root: groupadd -g 3003 aid_inet usermod -G aid_inet your_login_name |
| 03:54.15 | abrotman | bah .. |
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| 03:54.21 | abrotman | that's two commands .. the internet helps |
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| 03:55.25 | changegu1 | ok |
| 03:55.27 | changegu1 | brb |
| 03:55.51 | carrera | abrotman, changed my mirror to no avail! :( |
| 03:55.55 | abrotman | carrera: to what? |
| 03:56.03 | abrotman | carrera: oh, just use ftp.ca.debian.org :) |
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| 03:56.24 | carrera | abrotman, I get the same error. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache |
| 03:56.28 | dvs | we don't want him! |
| 03:56.48 | carrera | abrotman, I used ftp.ca.debian.org actually |
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| 03:58.30 | abrotman | carrera: I was using it earlier .. worked fine |
| 03:58.35 | abrotman | dvs: you already have him ? |
| 03:58.43 | dvs | darn it! ;-) |
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| 04:06.43 | changegu1 | abrotman: im back |
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| 04:08.10 | changegu1 | abrotman: # groupadd -g 3003 aid_inet usermod -G aid_inet adas |
| 04:08.12 | changegu1 | groupadd: invalid option -- 'G' |
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| 04:09.11 | carrera | abrotman, please see http://pastebin.com/dXh6DaX0 |
| 04:09.38 | stew | carrera: usermod was meant to be the start of a second command |
| 04:09.41 | stew | changegu1: ^^^ |
| 04:09.48 | stew | carrera: sorry, tabfail |
| 04:10.11 | carrera | stew, no problem :) |
| 04:10.11 | changegu1 | stew: ok thanks just put in the command |
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| 04:10.34 | changegu1 | stew: abrotman: thanks bros. it works |
| 04:11.02 | changegu1 | will i have to do this for every user? |
| 04:11.32 | stew | ftp.ca is more than one server, one might be having problems, you might try a different server completely |
| 04:11.41 | carrera | stew, can you take a look at this and let me know why aptitude fails to update on my systemhttp://pastebin.com/dXh6DaX0 |
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| 04:12.05 | stew | like ftp.us instead of ftp.ca or cdn.debian.net or pick one from /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 04:12.10 | changegu1 | can I get apt-add-resopitory? the command isnt on this system. i need to add a PPA respiorty |
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| 04:12.42 | stew | changegu1: i've never heard of a PPA for debian, only ubuntu |
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| 04:13.07 | changegu1 | ooh. |
| 04:13.09 | stew | changegu1: i'd be surprised to find out that apt-add-repository existed for debian |
| 04:13.33 | changegu1 | so is it possible to manually add it |
| 04:13.34 | stew | though someday... i don't think that has got out of the planning stage, but i'm way more out of touch than I should be |
| 04:13.43 | stew | changegu1: add a ubuntu repository to debian? |
| 04:14.01 | stew | changegu1: yes, but it's a bad idea |
| 04:14.27 | stew | changegu1: what is it you want to add? |
| 04:15.27 | changegu1 | stew: dogecoin |
| 04:15.31 | changegu1 | wallet |
| 04:16.03 | themill | apt-add-repository does actually exist, but using it doesn't make sense |
| 04:16.19 | carrera | stew, thanks, ftp.us worked! :) |
| 04:16.22 | changegu1 | the website says it should work in debian |
| 04:16.45 | carrera | stew, can I just use debian.org instead? |
| 04:16.57 | stew | carrera: not just debian.org, no |
| 04:17.08 | stew | what is the geodns? http.debian.net? |
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| 04:17.21 | stew | there must be official geodns by now |
| 04:17.24 | stew | i'm so totally out of touch |
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| 04:17.54 | carrera | stew, it's asking me to insert the CD now. Why is that? |
| 04:18.05 | carrera | stew, on aptitude upgrade |
| 04:18.15 | stew | carrera: because you have cdrom sources in you /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:18.27 | changegu1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:19.21 | stew | yeah, that looks good. why oh why is he recommending to use "stable". he should know better |
| 04:19.24 | carrera | stew, but it never asked me before! |
| 04:19.31 | carrera | stew, should I just comment them? |
| 04:19.41 | stew | carrera: do you ever want to install from cdrom? |
| 04:20.08 | stew | carrera: I mean "stable" instead of a codename like "wheezy", i don't deprecate running stable of course, just using "stable" as a suite in sources.list |
| 04:20.37 | carrera | stew, sorry I don't understand that |
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| 04:21.20 | stew | carrera: when you are installing new packages, do you ever want it to prefer to install them from the cd instead of just downloding them from the internet? |
| 04:21.38 | stew | carrera: if you answer "no", then just remove the cdrom lines, they are not useful to you |
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| 04:22.43 | carrera | stew, no, I don't, so I will remove them. thanks! |
| 04:23.00 | carrera | stew, I think Synaptic put them there |
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| 04:23.39 | carrera | stew, I changed my sources back to mirror.peer1.net and it works now |
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| 04:25.31 | stew | carrera: if you are hosted at something like peer1, it makes sense to use their mirrors, but not for security.debian.org, you should go to the source for that one |
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| 04:31.46 | rotad | hi all! |
| 04:32.58 | centrx | Ahoy |
| 04:33.14 | us`0gb | Hello rotad! |
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| 04:34.35 | carrera | stew, I just ran aptitude full-upgrade |
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| 04:35.01 | rotad | Hi guys. Just saying 'hello' after my new Wheezy install. Life is good : ) |
| 04:35.43 | us`0gb | Indeed. Debian 7 is awesome. |
| 04:35.45 | carrera | stew, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/2yyN4v0g |
| 04:36.12 | carrera | Hi rotad |
| 04:36.44 | rotad | Yes! I'm coming over from FreeBSD and really like how natural Debian suits me. |
| 04:37.02 | rotad | Hello carrera. |
| 04:37.03 | us`0gb | I'm actually new to Debian myself, but I've used several distros downstream of it, so I'm familiar with Aptitude and such. |
| 04:37.14 | carrera | rotad, are you running Gnome or XFCE? |
| 04:37.22 | rotad | Gnome. |
| 04:37.45 | rotad | playing around with aptitude as well, but really like apt-get |
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| 04:38.33 | stew | carrera: /msg dpkg bat |
| 04:38.33 | rotad | I'm running Debian 7 on my Asus UL30A from 2009. Everything works great. |
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| 04:39.19 | wilmaaaa1 | morning. how do i list the potential updates with aptitude? |
| 04:39.55 | rotad | You mean without actually updating anything? |
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| 04:40.04 | carrera | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.30 | wilmaaaa1 | yes, i have three packages that weren't updated |
| 04:40.47 | wilmaaaa1 | i'd like to see which ones they are |
| 04:40.56 | us`0gb | I use Xfce myself. I was happy to see there was an ISO that installs Xfce instead of GNOME. I've worked with distros that don't come with Xfce, and Xfce tends to not run as smoothly on them. |
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| 04:41.41 | us`0gb | wilmaaaa1: aptitude -s upgrade |
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| 04:41.48 | JyZyXEL | why doesn't debians default apache conf define a ServerName? |
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| 04:42.16 | rotad | did you try apt-cache pkgnames ? |
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| 04:44.37 | wilmaaaa1 | us`0gb: 'aptitde -s' is actually upgrading now 3 of the five packages but it doesn't show me the names of the two others |
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| 04:45.09 | us`0gb | Hmm. Try running "aptitude". No arguments. |
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| 04:45.30 | us`0gb | Then check the "upgradable packages" category. |
| 04:46.00 | wilmaaaa1 | yes, it works that way |
| 04:46.19 | wilmaaaa1 | thanks for the workaround |
| 04:46.26 | TJ- | Is there a kernel-team git repo for the linux kernel? Having difficulty finding any clear reference to one via the web or on anonscm |
| 04:46.29 | rotad | Cool. Thanks for that tip. Just learned something about aptitude. |
| 04:46.32 | us`0gb | Any time. |
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| 04:47.44 | rotad | Will spend the rest of the night going through the Debian Admin Handbook. |
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| 04:51.31 | us`0gb | There's a package I need that is present in many GNOME-based systems, but I don't know what it's called. It contains drip.ogg, glass.ogg, bark.ogg, and radar.ogg. Does anyone know what package this would be on Debian? |
| 04:51.55 | stew | TJ-: they might still be using svn: https://alioth.debian.org/scm/?group_id=30428 |
| 04:52.57 | stew | TJ-: there was a commit there today: https://alioth.debian.org/scm/viewvc.php?view=rev&root=kernel&revision=21114 |
| 04:53.10 | stew | us`0gb: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 04:53.19 | stew | rotad: /msg dpkg reference |
| 04:53.41 | us`0gb | stew: That only works if you know where the file is, right? I know the names, but not the paths. |
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| 04:54.00 | stew | us`0gb: it should work in your case |
| 04:54.10 | rotad | thanks stew diubg so now |
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| 04:57.17 | TJ- | stew: O.O SVN? crazy! |
| 04:58.08 | stew | kickin it oldschool |
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| 05:00.04 | stew | !find drip.ogg |
| 05:00.23 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'drip.ogg' (2): (/usr/share/gcompris/boards/voices/fr/words/drip.ogg) in education/gcompris-sound-fr ;; (/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/drip.ogg) in gnome/gnome-control-center-data. |
| 05:00.35 | us`0gb | apt-file wants me to insert the Debian CD ... Too bad I used a USB stick to install. |
| 05:00.42 | TJ- | stew: I was planning on a simple 'git remote add' into my Linux kernel repo so I can do some work on it easily, but SVN introduces complications. I'll have to see how the SVN repo maintains the original commit IDs - if it does maybe git-svn can pull it correctly |
| 05:02.33 | TJ- | And that leads to a second question: The X509 certs for the HTTPS connections have a CA not in the trusted set, I go look at the CA (SPI-INC) and on their own web-site they present invalid certs! Where does the original trust come from in that chain if the CA can't get its act together? |
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| 05:04.26 | us`0gb | Okay, it looks like that second result the bot pulled up is the one I need. Thanks stew! |
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| 05:07.51 | us`0gb | Oh wow .... Installing that package pulls in way too many dependencies ... It's not worth it for one sound file. |
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| 05:09.49 | master_j | just grab the file from the pkg |
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| 05:10.47 | us`0gb | Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do now. Though it won't be as clean as an installation. alarm-clock-applet uses those sounds. |
| 05:11.01 | TJ- | us`0gb: How about "apt-get source <package-name>" and then manually move the file to where-ever you want it? Saves on pulling any binaries |
| 05:11.29 | TJ- | us`0gb: As it is only the sound files you want, they'll be as-is in the source package |
| 05:11.51 | us`0gb | I'll do that is "aptitude download" doesn't work out, as the later is already running. |
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| 05:13.20 | master_j | clean is for duckies |
| 05:14.04 | Okee | Has anyone else had a problem with their audio card disappearing? I keep having to reset the Pulse Audio Volume Control, and it is frustrating. I am running Debian Linux stable. |
| 05:14.18 | us`0gb | I'm not sure I would consider water foul to be clean. |
| 05:15.03 | us`0gb | My audio card keeps disappearing, but only because my brother keeps stealing it. |
| 05:16.42 | TJ- | Program it to scream when he does :) |
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| 06:12.01 | z8z | JyZyXEL: maybe you'd better ask in #httpd |
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| 06:41.51 | jaccob | jordanm, thx |
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| 07:31.23 | stf | hey guyz i trying to writing a script to find out which distribution the script is running on, i know "uname -a" but this shows me only the kernel, but i want also know if it is an ubuntu or a debian the script is running on? Can anyone of you give me an advise |
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| 07:32.40 | Chetic | I messed up. I put things in .bashrc that hangs the only user's login. I currently only have SSH access, and remote root is not allowed. How can I disable/edit my .bashrc file remotely? |
| 07:33.08 | buu | Chetic: ssh host 'echo > ~/.bashrc' |
| 07:33.09 | buu | ? |
| 07:33.20 | buu | or scp |
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| 07:34.00 | stf | chetic: did you also try "su -l" ? |
| 07:34.15 | stf | for root access? |
| 07:34.22 | ksuhku | stf, lsb_release -i |
| 07:34.26 | Chetic | stf: Where would I do that? |
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| 07:35.07 | stf | ksuhku: thx |
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| 07:35.38 | buu | prods Chetic |
| 07:35.41 | stf | Chetic, you are login over ssh with a user right? |
| 07:36.07 | stf | chetic do you have the root-password? |
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| 07:36.25 | Chetic | buu: Don't wanna lose what's in .bashrc so I'm trying mv .bashrc blalba instead |
| 07:36.42 | buu | scp host:.bashrc . |
| 07:36.46 | buu | etc |
| 07:36.46 | Chetic | stf: I can't login. It hangs because it tries to do things when I log in |
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| 07:37.00 | stf | are okay |
| 07:37.05 | buu | mv will work also |
| 07:37.07 | stf | then you have to use scp |
| 07:37.12 | Chetic | omg buu, it worked, thank you! |
| 07:37.19 | stf | do like buu says |
| 07:37.25 | Chetic | now I learned .bashrc isn't run when you do single commands through ssh :) |
| 07:37.47 | buu | =] |
| 07:37.51 | Chetic | thanks for the tip! |
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| 07:49.18 | thomaschaaf | Hello I am trying to write a screenrc and have multiple screens starting automatically. I would like to focus on the first screen rather than the last one automatically but can't seem to find a configuration for that. |
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| 07:52.15 | thomaschaaf | found it :) |
| 07:52.24 | thomaschaaf | select 0 |
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| 08:32.51 | shellox | hi |
| 08:33.08 | shellox | does that look like a sane solution to you? |
| 08:33.09 | shellox | http://xuniltech.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/install-php-5-2-on-wheezy-debian-7/ |
| 08:33.20 | shellox | we have some php 5.2 code and it's really terrible |
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| 08:38.08 | shellox | abrotman: are you there? |
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| 08:42.35 | pfote | it might be easier to run it on a lenny instead |
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| 08:47.49 | babilen | shellox: I second pfote's advice to simply run it on lenny until that legacy code has been updated to work with a supported PHP version. I mean even PHP upstream dropped support for that a long time ago :-/ |
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| 08:48.37 | babilen | shellox: And better make sure that nobody can access it from the internet as that would pose a severe security risk |
| 08:48.57 | pfote | thats what i was about to say .. i seriously hope this machine is not exposed to the internets |
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| 08:49.30 | shellox | babilen: it's a sad story i agree and I'm quite concerned |
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| 08:49.50 | shellox | a client is currently running this machine on the internet |
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| 08:50.04 | shellox | with fedora 8, which is for 4 years or so out of updates |
| 08:50.18 | shellox | so now they try to migrate it to debian wheezy |
| 08:50.33 | viscera | just 4 short years! |
| 08:50.42 | shellox | viscera: :( |
| 08:51.08 | shellox | that's the problem when windows users setup a server.. |
| 08:51.42 | viscera | or anyone who doesn't understand sysad |
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| 08:52.27 | pfote | shellox: then at least run mod_security in the apache, with the OWASP core rule set .. and better have some intrusion detection running on that machine |
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| 08:52.47 | shellox | pfote: yeah, they currently work on the rewrite though |
| 08:52.51 | shellox | and i help them |
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| 08:52.59 | shellox | but still it needs to run a while in production |
| 08:53.10 | shellox | it can't get worse than it is though |
| 08:53.16 | shellox | nothing can beat fedora 8 |
| 08:53.16 | shellox | .. |
| 08:53.34 | shellox | but here in asia they don't take that very seriously :P |
| 08:53.40 | pfote | running it on lenny is probably much easier .. in wheezy you'll probably end up in a package mess |
| 08:53.57 | shellox | pfote: hmm, there's no ec2 image for lenny |
| 08:54.02 | shellox | ec2 is the requirement |
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| 08:55.11 | pfote | um .. well then you have to go with wheezy |
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| 08:57.51 | shellox | pfote: ah, aws still has squeeze |
| 08:59.05 | pfote | is probably as messy as wheezy if you install lenny php, apache etc |
| 08:59.47 | pfote | considered building php5.2 from source? |
| 09:00.01 | pfote | using the lenny packages and fixing dependencies? |
| 09:00.27 | shellox | pfote: how about that |
| 09:00.32 | shellox | install apache |
| 09:00.37 | shellox | and then compile php |
| 09:00.45 | shellox | that won't fuck up package management right |
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| 09:01.21 | jelly | shellox: debootstrap a lenny chroot |
| 09:01.44 | shellox | jelly: that all sounds like pain in the ass :( |
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| 09:01.58 | pfote | shellox: thats also possible, sure |
| 09:02.00 | babilen | pfote: That would still mean that the *entire* PHP stack in wheezy is in conflict. I am not entirely sure what that means, but any installation of PHP modules apart from those created from the original 5.2 package will fail. It might be feasible though (I mean same holds true for shoehorning it into wheezy) |
| 09:02.03 | jelly | shellox: as opposed to building from source? ymmv |
| 09:02.31 | shellox | babilen: if i compile php and install with pear it can work? |
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| 09:03.50 | pfote | babilen: thought the modules come out of the same source package so there would be a central place for the dependencies .. but i might be wrong, its been years since i built me php |
| 09:04.34 | shellox | http://pear.php.net/ |
| 09:04.48 | shellox | i think that's something like pip for python right? |
| 09:04.52 | shellox | i never used it though |
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| 09:05.23 | pfote | no .. pear is more like a software library |
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| 09:05.53 | babilen | pfote: Not all of them, but mostly yeah. xcache would be one example. |
| 09:05.53 | shellox | ah |
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| 09:06.30 | mouz\lex | .exu |
| 09:06.43 | pfote | babilen: i see. so it depends on what he actually needs |
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| 09:07.15 | shellox | pfote: i think i need to figure out the installed modules first |
| 09:07.19 | shellox | before i decide right |
| 09:07.31 | shellox | i think it's pretty much stock php |
| 09:07.35 | shellox | but i check again |
| 09:08.35 | Shadur | I'm using rbldnsd to handle a set of rsynced blacklist files from spamhaus. Rsyncing works fine, rbldnsd starts up fine, it shows up as running and listening on 127.0.0.6 port 53 in netstat... But any queries sent to that address just time out with 'no servers could be reached'. |
| 09:09.55 | Shadur | I have no idea what I might be doing wrong and nothing in the manpages gives me a suggestion where I could start looking. |
| 09:10.41 | Shadur | Also, log messages indicate that it is reloading its zones correctly after each rsync, and running it with -d does give me a correct dump of the zones, so it has the information, it just isn't giving any out. |
| 09:10.55 | shellox | pfote: that's the list from the system |
| 09:10.56 | shellox | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/db20d8abd93db3756c03/raw/b73c9f0239213389688c586a7786932e12125b7e/gistfile1.txt |
| 09:12.01 | pfote | the eaccelerator is not in php core i guess |
| 09:12.42 | pfote | but it should work without, just a bit slower |
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| 09:13.15 | shellox | pfote: i don't think it will need it |
| 09:13.24 | shellox | the source is that bad, so it shouldn't matter anyway |
| 09:13.31 | pfote | its just a outdated opcode cache |
| 09:13.36 | shellox | it runs in an IDC on a Mac Pro in Vmware |
| 09:13.37 | shellox | lol |
| 09:13.43 | pfote | oh dear |
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| 09:13.53 | shellox | pfote: ey, i didn't set it up :( |
| 09:14.09 | shellox | i just came here and someone said "ah, we also have that.." lol |
| 09:14.19 | babilen | heh *sob* |
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| 09:14.52 | shellox | pfote: to be fair, the code will be rewritten from scratch and it should run on ec2 on a current debian version |
| 09:14.58 | shellox | so it just can get better |
| 09:15.08 | pfote | sounds like a plan |
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| 09:18.44 | shellox | pfote: yeah, still bothers me to deal with this shit :( |
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| 09:21.56 | pfote | shellox: thats life .. everyone loves to work on new, shiny, well structured and documented projects, but in reality you quite often end up fixing some outdated legacy shit created by a complete moron. |
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| 09:22.53 | Shadur | Because the moron moved on and is now working on a new shiny project. |
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| 09:24.30 | pfote | maybe .. maybe not. but that legacy code you hate with a passion still made enough money so that the company is still there and gives you a job |
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| 09:25.45 | biglama | hi guys |
| 09:26.00 | biglama | is it possible to use java 32 bits with iceweasel 64 bits ? |
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| 09:26.24 | biglama | couldn't make it work yesterday, only the 64bits java was recognized |
| 09:26.51 | wols | no. the plugin has to be the same arch as the browser. it runs in the same process |
| 09:27.48 | biglama | damn, and I can't install iceweasel:i386 either |
| 09:27.51 | biglama | thanks |
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| 09:45.53 | shellox | pfote: or i go with ubuntu in this case, cause they have 5.2.17 in ppa http://oleksiy.pro/2013/03/29/installing-php-5-2-17-on-ubuntu-aws/ |
| 09:46.04 | shellox | not sure if that would be easier |
| 09:46.22 | xand | you do not want to be running php 5.2 |
| 09:46.55 | shellox | xand: see discussion above.. |
| 09:47.12 | shellox | xand: tl;dr migrating legacy shit |
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| 09:48.09 | pfote | shellox: no idea about ubuntu |
| 09:48.30 | shellox | pfote: me neither, it just looked easier in this example |
| 09:48.45 | shellox | but i don't like ubuntu too much in recent days |
| 09:48.47 | pfote | giving it a try cant hurt .. |
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| 09:55.10 | wols | for legacy, run an old debian inside a VM? |
| 09:55.37 | shellox | wols: this shit currently runs in production because the company runs a fedora 8 server ;) |
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| 10:13.36 | k_sze[work] | How do I know where my locale settings are coming from? I mean the ones that I see by entering the `locale` command in the shell. |
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| 10:14.12 | k_sze[work] | Some how I have most of them set to en_HK.UTF-8, I just don't remember where they come from. |
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| 10:14.28 | marsupapu | While installing debian, I left root password blank by accident, and now I have to use sudo every time I need root priviledges. How do I enable root user so that I can use su to log in as root? |
| 10:14.43 | Shadur | marsupapu: sudo passwd root |
| 10:15.16 | Shadur | Although sudo is generally considered the preferred method over 'su' in most cases. |
| 10:15.19 | halt | Hi All, how can i setup a general bashrc which will be applied for all user ? ( I what to include the time to the history ) |
| 10:15.25 | gentwo | mounting issue, i have mounted a shared drive, it does mount and i can see also the mount results also shows.. but i can't see any files in it.. |
| 10:15.31 | gentwo | mount -t cifs //10.15.19.23/sharedfolder /home/operator/shared/ -o username=user,password=pa$$word,rw,gid=1000,uid=1000 |
| 10:15.49 | wols | halt: ls /etc/bash* |
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| 10:16.32 | marsupapu | Thank you Shadur. Sudo is allright, but when I have to execute multiple commands as root, it's much easier when logged in with su. |
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| 10:16.50 | wols | marsupapu: sudo bash then |
| 10:18.55 | halt | wols: great thanks ! |
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| 10:20.03 | linedash | and you can change he root password by using sudo + passwd |
| 10:20.18 | linedash | sudo passwd root |
| 10:20.20 | linedash | should work |
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| 10:21.44 | Mikaela | wols: Don't you mean "sudo -i"? Or "sudo su -" ? |
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| 10:28.50 | mouz\lex | how would I go about editing my hosts file so that when I enter 'n' in my browser addr bar, I am taken to a specific url ? |
| 10:29.44 | Mikaela | You can't, you can only set IP-address which n matches. |
| 10:30.31 | mouz\lex | that wil do |
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| 10:30.56 | Mikaela | 127.0.0.1 n |
| 10:31.44 | Mikaela | Where 127.0.0.1 is replaced with actual IP-address unless you want localhost and those four spaces are tab which might make four spaces anyway. |
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| 10:36.31 | jelly | that handles where requests go; any web server on 127.0.0.1 still has to be willing to answer to then http://n/ name |
| 10:36.40 | jelly | s/then/the/ |
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| 10:37.14 | Mikaela | Oh, true. |
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| 10:44.11 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 10:48.45 | rabbitea1_sdf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfeVI29oHp4 |
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| 11:04.44 | vali | hi, I have an issue with a package (froxlor) |
| 11:05.13 | vali | It has the following dependency -> Depends: apache2 | lighttpd | nginx etc |
| 11:05.20 | vali | so I installed nginx |
| 11:05.35 | vali | but when I try to install froxlor it still tries to install apache |
| 11:05.36 | vali | why ? |
| 11:05.49 | vali | shouldn't that be an OR ? |
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| 11:06.34 | jelly | ,depends froxlor |
| 11:06.35 | judd | No package named 'froxlor' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 11:07.06 | jelly | vali: which debian release are you using, and where is this package coming from? |
| 11:07.08 | vali | that repo is not official |
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| 11:07.28 | jelly | !bat |
| 11:07.29 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 11:07.38 | vali | http://debian.froxlor.org squeeze main |
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| 11:07.46 | stim | hey there, is there a way to add quota support to a running machine? |
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| 11:08.08 | jelly | vali: in addition to all the information listed above, please also add the output "apt-cache show froxlor" |
| 11:08.14 | rabbitea1_sdf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTaWayUE5XA |
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| 11:08.54 | jelly | rabbitea1_sdf: you might want to ease up on the random youtube links here, #debian-offtopic might be a more appropriate place |
| 11:09.51 | stim | jelly: is there a way to get quota support without rebooting the machine? |
| 11:09.52 | vali | jelly -> http://paste.debian.net/84325 |
| 11:09.56 | vali | this is the output |
| 11:10.51 | vali | the issue is that I installed nginx and the package should NOT install apache if the nginx dependency is already satisfied |
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| 11:11.03 | jelly | vali: where's the "complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run", and "apt-cache policy nginx" |
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| 11:11.13 | jelly | vali: and just "apt-cache policy" |
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| 11:11.42 | jelly | vali: I don't see any output of an installation attempt there, sorry |
| 11:11.51 | rabbitea1_sdf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsoIfkNQYEg |
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| 11:12.26 | jelly | stim: yes, but unmounting or remounting-ro the relevant filesystems might be needed |
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| 11:12.37 | jelly | stim: I'll let someone else answer that |
| 11:13.04 | FriendsNone | hi guys |
| 11:13.08 | vali | jelly -> http://paste.debian.net/84326 |
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| 11:15.33 | user258467 | How do I restart my mysql server safely it is a prod server? |
| 11:15.39 | jelly | vali: that apt-get also wants to replace exim4-daemon-light with exim4-daemon-heavy for some reason |
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| 11:15.51 | user258467 | it is running 100% CPU |
| 11:15.52 | BobBall | Is it possible to install Jesse when using a Wheezy installer? I've been having trouble with the PXE nightlies (unable to get DHCP addresses) while the Wheezy installer works great |
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| 11:16.35 | jelly | vali: what happens if you use aptitude instead of apt-get for the installation attempt? |
| 11:16.43 | vali | let me see |
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| 11:17.16 | vali | jelly, same install tree |
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| 11:18.17 | jelly | vali: hmm. perhaps apt thinks there's some unfinished business from before. What about aptitude -R install ... ? |
| 11:18.21 | xreal | Where will I place the text to load "preseed.cfg", if I don't put it to initrd ? |
| 11:18.54 | vali | jelly, the same |
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| 11:26.49 | vali | jelly, any ideas ? |
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| 11:27.43 | gentwo | is this enough to get update to latest packages. or am i missing something.. here is my /etc/apt/source.list ..http://pastebin.com/PdRzUZsE |
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| 11:29.54 | xreal | Man... the Debian Docs and tutorials are outdated as hell. |
| 11:30.08 | nkuttler | gentwo: looks about right, you might want to add contrib non-free |
| 11:30.14 | xreal | crap => https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetworkConsole |
| 11:30.21 | nkuttler | xreal: it's a wiki, fix it |
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| 11:30.56 | nkuttler | !tell xreal about ig |
| 11:31.03 | nkuttler | netboot should be in the ig as well |
| 11:31.11 | gentwo | nkuttler: please let me know the full address of that contrib non free |
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| 11:31.15 | xreal | nkuttler: okay, my first step: *remove this entry* :) |
| 11:31.35 | nkuttler | gentwo: just add contrib non-free after main |
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| 11:32.00 | nkuttler | gentwo: on the same line, like the non-free entry you already have |
| 11:32.59 | gentwo | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free its already there right? |
| 11:33.15 | gentwo | nkuttler: why do i need to added again? |
| 11:33.31 | nkuttler | gentwo: see man 5 sources.list for details |
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| 11:36.01 | gentwo | nkuttler: sorry i am confused now. u said att eh contrib none-free in the list.. but this is alerady there right? |
| 11:36.33 | gentwo | nkuttler: *att eh / add |
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| 11:40.00 | boudiccas | i'm calling a bash script which then starts emacs which works well, but, this remains in the terminal '** (emacs24:1964): WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.' how do i resolve it please? |
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| 11:43.05 | wcmckee | ls |
| 11:43.19 | wcmckee | oops! |
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| 11:47.08 | killermoehre | hi. aptitude changelog is really nice, but is there a way to just show the changelog between to version numbers? |
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| 11:48.16 | moctar | hi |
| 11:48.46 | moctar | do "apt-get update" & "apt-get upgrade" update Debian 6 to Debian 7? |
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| 11:49.02 | boudiccas | moctar; no |
| 11:49.24 | Mikaela | moctar: /topic, /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 11:49.41 | moctar | I don't want to switch D6 to D7 ^^ |
| 11:49.45 | boudiccas | moctar; you need to change your sources.list from squeeze to wheezy, update, and then dist-upgrade |
| 11:49.46 | gentwo | boudiccas: i am confused with source list.. can someone help me to correct this.. is this enough to get the latest packages http://pastebin.com/PdRzUZsE |
| 11:50.28 | boudiccas | gentwo; what version of debian are you running? |
| 11:50.47 | boudiccas | moctar; then why ask? stop wasting our time! |
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| 11:51.09 | moctar | I just want to update my packets |
| 11:51.17 | moctar | and don't update D6 to D7 |
| 11:51.18 | moctar | ^^ |
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| 11:51.37 | viscera | moctar, to answer your question, no |
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| 11:51.48 | viscera | which boudiccas already answered |
| 11:51.52 | moctar | ok thanks you all ;) |
| 11:52.13 | boudiccas | moctar; you cannot just 'update' to debian7/wheezy. by updating with debian 6/squeeze, you will stay with squeeze |
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| 11:52.25 | viscera | that's what he wants |
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| 11:53.00 | musca | !tell gentwo about sources |
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| 11:56.16 | BobBall | Anyone know if/why DHCP is broken in nightly netboot images? I can netboot wheezy fine, but can't netboot three different nightlies I've tried. I need to install jesse through PXE |
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| 11:57.22 | gentwo | musca: what about the non-contrib free |
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| 12:01.44 | musca | gentwo: well, if you add those components of the wheezy repo, you should also add those at wheezy-updates and security-updates. |
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| 12:03.41 | gentwo | musca: so this file is enough right?? http://pastebin.com/PdRzUZsE |
| 12:03.51 | abcd593 | Hi, I want to make a localized debian based distro - how do I replace the string "Debian" with my own name on all places? |
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| 12:04.45 | nkuttler | abcd593: what about "debian"? |
| 12:05.09 | viscera | abcd593, https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Guidelines#De-.2FRe-branding |
| 12:05.19 | abcd593 | thank you |
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| 12:05.26 | viscera | np |
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| 12:05.47 | killermoehre | abcd593: find / -type f -exec sed "s|[Dd]ebian|your name|g" {} \; |
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| 12:06.16 | abcd593 | killermoehre: thank you! |
| 12:06.29 | viscera | i wouldn't blindly do that |
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| 12:06.57 | abcd593 | why? |
| 12:07.04 | nkuttler | abcd593: that's certainly wrong |
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| 12:07.31 | viscera | because things depend on and interact with other things |
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| 12:07.42 | nkuttler | abcd593: for one you want to modify source packages, and not to change copyright notices |
| 12:07.49 | nkuttler | not to mention build scripts and what not |
| 12:07.51 | viscera | that, too |
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| 12:10.02 | abcd593 | ok. thank you! |
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| 12:10.30 | wnkz | Does someone knows how to make preseed create a LVM Physical Volume on a whole device instead of creating a partition on it ? (pvcreate /dev/sdb vs. pvcreate /dev/sdb1) |
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| 12:12.55 | nwe | hello I have just installed a dell xps which had wireless driver iwlwifi but the wlan0 interface doesnt showing up.. any idea? |
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| 12:13.52 | rgr | nwe: do an "lspci" at the command line and work from there having identified the HW and from there google the correct driver. |
| 12:14.40 | rgr | (also be aware of update-pciids) |
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| 12:16.49 | nwe | rgr: strange it doesnt find it in lspci.. |
| 12:17.04 | rgr | it is a pci card? |
| 12:17.23 | nwe | it?s a builtin |
| 12:17.29 | rgr | dell xps are pretty widely used - it shouldnt be hard to determine. |
| 12:17.56 | rgr | also be sure its not turned off with a HW switch on the XPS : it has been knonw. |
| 12:18.02 | rgr | known |
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| 12:18.25 | rgr | pci <> external btw |
| 12:18.30 | abcd593 | nkuttler: it says there were Debian is mentioned, but it doesn't say how to change it... https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Guidelines#De-.2FRe-branding |
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| 12:19.07 | nwe | rgr: do you know if its difficult to get <fn> button to work? I mean to trun on/off wireless and stuff like that |
| 12:19.10 | nkuttler | abcd593: well if you can't figure it out from there.. maybe you shouldn't package a distro :| |
| 12:19.25 | rgr | an editor in most cases. if you cant figure it out I suspect you neednt bother building a "distro". really. |
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| 12:20.03 | rgr | nwe: depends on hw and kernel. I know there are utilities to enable them but I dont use them myself so cant comment. |
| 12:20.27 | abcd593 | GDM / KDM / LightDM (etc) branding ? |
| 12:20.37 | nkuttler | nwe: do you mean a fn key? that should just work.. try with xev if it modfies keys |
| 12:20.55 | nkuttler | nwe: or do you mean stuff like multimedia keys? |
| 12:21.01 | abcd593 | I think it's more than editor... |
| 12:21.15 | nwe | nkuttler: yeah I mean fn key, I know it worked in gnome, but in pekwm it doesnt work.. |
| 12:21.41 | abcd593 | is there a way to modify an image? or how do I pack the changes back into an installable image? |
| 12:21.48 | nkuttler | abcd593: an image editor |
| 12:22.05 | nkuttler | abcd593: installer images? you want to build those |
| 12:22.14 | nkuttler | abcd593: but really, don't build a distro, please |
| 12:22.57 | abcd593 | don't worry |
| 12:23.02 | abcd593 | :) |
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| 12:23.34 | abcd593 | do you have another link on how to build installer images, after rebranding is done? |
| 12:23.53 | maxyz | nkuttler: Don't panic, there a number of uses cases where you want a custom installable image |
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| 12:24.18 | nkuttler | maxyz: you haven't been following |
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| 12:25.23 | abcd593 | nkuttler: is there a way to mount an image, make changes and save it... or do you have to install, rebrand and then build installer images of it? |
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| 12:28.20 | maxyz | Oh, I see, then abcd593: the derivatives frontdesk can be found in #debian-derivatives |
| 12:28.47 | bezaban | abcd593: you can mount an iso and make changes, although I'm not entirely sure how tweakable the debian installer is |
| 12:29.09 | bezaban | depending on what you want to do, although most aspects should be possible to change |
| 12:29.34 | abcd593 | bezaban: is there a howto on it? |
| 12:29.42 | bezaban | abcd593: not afaik |
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| 12:30.06 | abcd593 | for now I just want to change the name and add one package |
| 12:30.27 | abcd593 | (to be installed by default) |
| 12:30.39 | abcd593 | + locals |
| 12:30.46 | stf | i'm to blind to see, if i running ssh root@machineip "echo $(more /proc/version), where is the reason for the error message: "bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('" ? |
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| 12:31.29 | bezaban | abcd593: you might want to look into preseeding the debian installer |
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| 12:31.41 | bezaban | for automated/custom installs |
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| 12:32.01 | abcd593 | thank you |
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| 12:33.57 | Quibus | hi, I used to get my usb stick mounted in /media/<username> but that doesn't happen anymore. What could be wrong? |
| 12:34.19 | maxyz | stf: The more is processed by your local bash, and the output is then processed in the remote machineip |
| 12:35.37 | stf | maxyz: hm and how do i get it right? |
| 12:36.20 | maxyz | stf: ssh root@machineip cat /proc/version ? |
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| 12:37.43 | stf | maxyz: -_- cat, of course |
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| 12:38.20 | stf | sth. I am realy blinded |
| 12:38.31 | stf | thx works |
| 12:39.06 | maxyz | yw |
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| 12:56.49 | Quibus | This used to work without installing usbmount. |
| 12:57.03 | Quibus | But it seems that nautilus isn't mounting it anymore for some reason (it is enabled) |
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| 13:10.17 | Esya | Hi guys. Quick question that is killing me right now. ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted, but iptables is empty |
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| 13:10.26 | Esya | Can't find the reason why it would do this |
| 13:11.31 | Esya | I cant even ping the gateway |
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| 13:12.30 | Esya | and worse, I can't even ping locally |
| 13:12.38 | Esya | ping 127.0.0.1 : ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted |
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| 13:13.12 | hid3 | Hello. I have accidently deleted a few files in a directory. Ext3 file system. Is there any way to undelete them? |
| 13:13.37 | bezaban | Esya: is the ping binary suid root? |
| 13:14.01 | Esya | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 36K Apr 12 2011 /bin/ping |
| 13:14.25 | bezaban | hm. is that the one you are running? 'which ping' |
| 13:14.26 | grand_grunt | hid3: extundelete can do the job. Avoid all writing on the partition where you deleted the files. |
| 13:14.34 | Esya | Yep it is |
| 13:14.35 | Esya | I did a which |
| 13:14.42 | Esya | > /bin/ping |
| 13:15.03 | Esya | bezaban: iptables -L or -t nat -L shows everything set to ACCEPT |
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| 13:16.37 | bezaban | Esya: shouldn't be iptables I think. Routes and other network config correct? Can you use any other services? |
| 13:16.56 | maxyz | Esya: Is the network up? (netstat -ie / ifconfig or ip a) |
| 13:17.08 | Esya | Lol, weirdly enough its on my dedicated server |
| 13:17.12 | Esya | and I'm sshing into it |
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| 13:17.36 | Esya | So I do get an ip for eth0 |
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| 13:18.15 | Esya | route -n shows two routes |
| 13:18.17 | Esya | but they seem fine |
| 13:18.29 | Esya | should I have loopback rules in route -n ? |
| 13:18.34 | maxyz | No |
| 13:18.49 | Esya | Then the rest seems fine and I don't really understand |
| 13:18.54 | maxyz | But you need the lo interface |
| 13:19.04 | maxyz | Are you using a custom kernel? |
| 13:19.18 | maxyz | Or a misterious sysctl? |
| 13:19.26 | Esya | Just using xtables |
| 13:19.28 | themill | Esya: is this actually on debian? |
| 13:19.29 | Esya | Only thing that touched the kernel |
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| 13:19.41 | themill | (not android) |
| 13:19.47 | Esya | cat /etc/debian_version 7.4 |
| 13:20.11 | Esya | I just apt-get removed iptables just to be sure |
| 13:20.18 | Esya | Does not change a thing |
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| 13:20.50 | maxyz | Isn't xtables a set of kernel modules? |
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| 13:21.28 | Esya | They are extensions for iptables, like the port knocking one |
| 13:21.31 | Esya | But I just removed it all |
| 13:22.00 | abrotman | Esya: what is 'uname -r' ? |
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| 13:22.11 | Esya | 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 13:22.27 | Esya | oh oh. I get the impression that I really should not log out. |
| 13:22.38 | Esya | nmapping port 22 I get filtered now |
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| 13:24.08 | Esya | sysctl -a | grep forwarding shows everything at 0 |
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| 13:24.52 | Esya | Which is normal I suppose |
| 13:25.01 | Esya | I dont see anything weird in sysctl.. I'm completely stucked. |
| 13:25.12 | maxyz | Esya: Mmh can you put the output of lsmod in a pastebin? |
| 13:25.17 | Esya | Sure |
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| 13:26.31 | alami | hello, i have a new debian installation with a rundeck tool, when i try to start this tool with browser ip:port |
| 13:26.44 | alami | i get forwarded to localhost:port |
| 13:27.00 | alami | i have stop apache2 and i want to install httpd |
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| 13:27.08 | alami | is that a good way to start? |
| 13:27.50 | Esya | maxyz : http://pastebin.com/w2UaQHWe |
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| 13:27.58 | Quibus | OK, so I made a bug report for it, see bug #740246 |
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| 13:28.21 | Esya | I'll remove ntop also, just in case |
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| 13:29.18 | Esya | maxyz should I rmmod --all --stacks ip_tables ? |
| 13:29.29 | codingeek | hello there... does anyone have experiences with a xen virtualization? |
| 13:29.38 | maxyz | Esya: No |
| 13:29.44 | wols | !tell codingeek about anyone |
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| 13:31.50 | Esya | Still get ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted, damn. |
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| 13:32.02 | maxyz | Esya: Something like that: rmmod $(lsmod | awk '$1 ~ /^xt_/ {print $1}') |
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| 13:32.20 | maxyz | Didn't test it |
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| 13:32.41 | Esya | nah works fine |
| 13:32.47 | Esya | I mena it does rmmod xt_* |
| 13:33.01 | Esya | But still get the sendmsg error |
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| 13:33.30 | maxyz | Did it really removed the module? |
| 13:33.35 | maxyz | (s) |
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| 13:34.10 | Esya | Yes it did |
| 13:34.11 | Esya | x_tables 19118 9 ip_tables,iptable_filter,xt_tcpudp,xt_state,xt_conntrack,xt_comment,xt_pknock,iptable_nat,iptable_mangle |
| 13:34.15 | Esya | Shouldnt I remove this one as well though? |
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| 13:35.29 | jelly | Esya: btw is your lo device up and running? |
| 13:35.54 | Left_Turn | what is the timeline like for debian OS updates? |
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| 13:36.34 | themill | Left_Turn: depends what you mean by "os updates" |
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| 13:36.57 | Left_Turn | like ubuntu 12.04 - 12.10 - ... etc |
| 13:37.00 | Esya | jelly: It looks okay |
| 13:37.05 | abrotman | Left_Turn: no one knows, there is no timeline |
| 13:37.05 | rgr | Left_Turn: released when ready. Thank god. |
| 13:37.22 | themill | Left_Turn: debian puts out a stable release approximately every two years. |
| 13:37.25 | Left_Turn | does it happen fast or does 1 version last awhile |
| 13:37.29 | Left_Turn | oh |
| 13:37.35 | tiny | debian, jessie: "man gcc: No manual entry for gcc" How do I get man pages for gcc, g++ ? |
| 13:37.38 | Left_Turn | thanks themill |
| 13:37.41 | jelly | too fast for some people, too slow for others |
| 13:37.43 | themill | dpkg: tell tiny about gcc-doc |
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| 13:37.47 | bezaban | squeeze was stable for about 2 years? |
| 13:37.50 | rgr | Left_Turn: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 13:37.56 | Left_Turn | thanks rgr |
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| 13:38.40 | rgr | if you want more leading edge them use testing. I do. It's generally very good. I shouldnt comment about Ubuntu but I will : its release policy sucks. Releasing on a "date" regardless of stability plain sucks. |
| 13:38.54 | jaami | how i can keep my wifi connection alive because isp disconnect it when its not in use for sometime? |
| 13:39.04 | tiny | themill: ah politics |
| 13:39.08 | tiny | lame |
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| 13:39.21 | Esya | Alright, I'm offering a 0.1bitcoin bounty to anyone that solves my problem haha. |
| 13:39.30 | tiny | heh |
| 13:39.31 | Left_Turn | yeah rgr now i have a new pc i want to try something other than ubuntu |
| 13:40.22 | themill | tiny: non-free is non-free. |
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| 13:42.13 | tiny | themill: it's crazy, it's insane. And it's user non friendly. |
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| 13:42.18 | FeriKe | Where can i request for a Debian package? |
| 13:42.25 | abrotman | tiny: complain to GNU? |
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| 13:42.32 | abrotman | dpkg: tell FeriKe about rfp |
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| 13:42.39 | Esya | ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted, no iptables, no missing suid |
| 13:42.57 | themill | tiny: please tell the FSF that. You'd complain if ls insisted on spewing the GNU manifesto at you prior to showing you a directory listing; this is the same. |
| 13:42.58 | Esya | my eth0 is up otherwise I wouldnt be on it (sshing on dedicated server) |
| 13:43.06 | FeriKe | abrotman, Thanks |
| 13:43.16 | themill | Esya: what's the output of "mount"? |
| 13:43.19 | Esya | And if I logout i probably cant login anymore, that's the quick summary. Anyone got an idea on this? Just crazy |
| 13:43.28 | Esya | One sec, gonna pastebin it |
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| 13:43.38 | abrotman | FeriKe: which package? |
| 13:43.42 | tiny | I'll manage. But end users really don't care. They just walk away. |
| 13:43.46 | Esya | http://pastebin.com/LBHTH8h0 |
| 13:43.53 | themill | tiny: tell that to the FSF. |
| 13:43.55 | Esya | themill Nothing unusual to me but I might be wrong |
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| 13:44.17 | abrotman | tiny: they're welcome to use another distro that doesn't care about things like that .. |
| 13:44.27 | tiny | ok thanks for the explanation |
| 13:44.37 | themill | Esya: I was hoping to see an accidental "nosuid" somewhere :( |
| 13:44.43 | Esya | :D |
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| 13:44.48 | Esya | i wish |
| 13:45.06 | FeriKe | abrotman, Pipelight |
| 13:45.12 | Esya | I'll get that bounty up to 0.25btc |
| 13:45.12 | makara | hi. When chrooting, why do we always mount /dev and /dev/pts separately? |
| 13:45.16 | Esya | For the person that solves it. |
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| 13:45.24 | Esya | So that's 150$ roughly |
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| 13:45.38 | abrotman | FeriKe: that sounds horrible! |
| 13:45.56 | lapache | Hello, does someone uses pbuilder for create dsc ... ? |
| 13:46.06 | FeriKe | When dpkg says ask me about "something" how can i ask? |
| 13:46.10 | abrotman | FeriKe: that's subjective :) |
| 13:46.13 | abrotman | FeriKe: /msg dpkg foo |
| 13:46.46 | abrotman | FeriKe: without the < >, just whatever is inside those |
| 13:46.47 | FeriKe | It says wnpp and nmg |
| 13:46.58 | abrotman | FeriKe: so "/msg dpkg wnpp" in your IRC client |
| 13:47.12 | maxyz | Esya: Isnt there any useful info in the kern.log? |
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| 13:47.31 | Esya | Feb 27 14:47:13 aphrodite kernel: [554747.044153] nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. |
| 13:47.35 | Esya | Yay |
| 13:48.03 | FeriKe | abrotman, Thank you. Why did you say pipelight sounds horrible? |
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| 13:48.56 | Esya | Can i safely increase net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max ? |
| 13:49.07 | abrotman | FeriKe: Just sounds like a poor idea to me, but I'm sure you have a good use for it |
| 13:49.52 | jaami | i am back, lost connection again, look like isp is fixing wifi antenna |
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| 13:50.03 | FeriKe | Thats the only way I can watch my programme on a TV channel. |
| 13:50.17 | jelly | Esya: yes (with some loss of RAM) |
| 13:50.23 | jaami | my question was about how my connection can stay alive even if i dont use it? |
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| 13:51.37 | Esya | jelly: Is that okay if I need to go at like.. 200k ? |
| 13:51.49 | jelly | Esya: what's it set to now, 64k? |
| 13:51.56 | Esya | yup |
| 13:52.05 | Esya | But this server gets a lot of incoming connections |
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| 13:52.35 | jelly | Esya: if you do a netstat -tupan, what's the state for most connections? |
| 13:52.58 | Esya | argh |
| 13:53.08 | Esya | Had to ctrl/c too many lines |
| 13:53.15 | Esya | established |
| 13:53.20 | Esya | and some in time_wait |
| 13:53.30 | Esya | but the established ones dont last long |
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| 13:55.24 | cff | How can I fix this? The following packages have unmet dependencies: skype : Depends: skype-bin |
| 13:55.41 | Esya | jelly: So basically we were DOSing ourselves |
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| 13:56.17 | cff | I have the exact problem as http://askubuntu.com/questions/407921/how-to-install-skype-on-64bit-ubuntu-13-10-broken-dependencies |
| 13:56.21 | jaami | DOSing? |
| 13:56.27 | abrotman | cff: using which version of Linux? |
| 13:56.29 | Esya | denial of service i mean |
| 13:56.34 | jaami | ok |
| 13:56.37 | jelly | Esya: you have >50k ESTABLISHED at the same time? |
| 13:56.45 | Esya | jelly: yep |
| 13:57.06 | cff | abrotman: Kubuntu |
| 13:57.09 | Esya | Well not now |
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| 13:57.18 | Esya | All in FIN_WAIT now |
| 13:57.18 | abrotman | cff: I think you want to use #kubuntu, not #debian, thank you |
| 13:57.25 | Esya | I killed something |
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| 13:57.50 | jaami | how to check if >50k connected? |
| 13:58.08 | jaami | ESTABLISHED*** |
| 13:58.11 | Esya | jaami: netstat |
| 13:58.53 | jelly | jaami: count them. |
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| 13:59.10 | jaami | netstat -tupan that does not show me, oh okay, on calculator i guess |
| 13:59.36 | Esya | Lol |
| 13:59.44 | Esya | netstat -tupan | grep ESTAB | wc -l |
| 13:59.53 | Esya | I did not count 50k lines |
| 13:59.57 | jaami | ok ok, thanks |
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| 14:00.20 | Esya | I only have 300 lines now in netstat -tupan |
| 14:00.25 | Esya | I calmed it down a bit |
| 14:00.55 | Esya | Altho I still have net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_max = 200000 and net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_count = 200000 |
| 14:00.55 | jaami | wow, just 2 was shown that must be 2k rather |
| 14:01.03 | asterismo | hi people, someone knows what happens with the xfce keyboard layout applet? it's completely broken right? |
| 14:01.36 | Esya | jelly: Any way for me to flush the conntrack table? |
| 14:01.52 | Esya | Or maybe I\m actually getting syn flooded? |
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| 14:02.05 | jelly | jaami: use awk or perl or any language that can read lines and use associative arrays, eg. ss -tupan|awk -F'[ \t]+' '{a[$2]++} END {for (state in a) {print state " " a[state]}}'|sort -k2,2n |
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| 14:02.15 | jelly | (ss is newer netstat) |
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| 14:02.47 | jaami | wow, nice explaination |
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| 14:03.43 | jelly | Esya: I _guess_ if you were synflooded you'd likely see lots of SYN-RECV states |
| 14:03.52 | jaami | jelly: Esya if you can tell me how to keep my connection alive and how to speed it up. |
| 14:04.05 | Esya | in /proc/net/ip_conntrack I see mostly SYN_SENT |
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| 14:04.30 | Esya | with "[UNREPLIED]" |
| 14:04.31 | jelly | Esya: those are connections started from local machine and going out |
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| 14:04.38 | Esya | Weird |
| 14:04.41 | Esya | They're not supposed to be. |
| 14:04.43 | Esya | Its a server |
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| 14:05.20 | jaami | i hope this isnt issue ESTABLISHED 2679/mix |
| 14:05.36 | jaami | security issue *** |
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| 14:06.03 | jelly | Esya: might want to investigate the process(es) those belong to |
| 14:06.07 | Esya | jaami: what? |
| 14:06.37 | jaami | neystat |
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| 14:07.17 | jaami | netstat shows foreign connection @ 141.76.45.33:443 ESTABLISHED 2679/mix |
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| 14:08.14 | Esya | So what? Nothing wrong with this jaami |
| 14:08.17 | Esya | :p |
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| 14:08.30 | Esya | jelly: Do you think I can rmmod ip_conntrack and then load it back |
| 14:08.35 | Esya | to flush the table? |
| 14:08.44 | petern_ | conntrack -F |
| 14:09.07 | Esya | conntrack: command not found |
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| 14:09.19 | jelly | Esya: I'd say find a likely cause before doing something that might cut you off |
| 14:09.21 | Esya | I'm talking about nf_conntrack |
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| 14:09.47 | Esya | jelly I think I found it |
| 14:09.56 | jelly | judd: i conntrack |
| 14:09.56 | Esya | But the table is full and I need to clear it |
| 14:09.58 | judd | Package conntrack (net, optional) in wheezy/i386: Program to modify the conntrack tables. Version: 1:1.2.1-1; Size: 26.1k; Installed: 105k; Homepage: http://conntrack-tools.netfilter.org/ |
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| 14:10.03 | Esya | Oh, thanks |
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| 14:10.51 | Esya | goes up to 120k in like 5s |
| 14:10.55 | Esya | 130k now |
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| 14:11.39 | jelly | Esya: so... you found it, but you didn't fix it, or? |
| 14:11.46 | Esya | i did. |
| 14:11.57 | Esya | One of my nodejs process was running, but had a low ulimit -n |
| 14:12.05 | Esya | It would keep connecitons open and fail to write somewhere |
| 14:12.09 | Esya | And not close them since it failed |
| 14:12.21 | Esya | I just killed the process for now so technically the port is closed now |
| 14:12.28 | jelly | did it die? |
| 14:12.39 | Esya | yep definitely not running |
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| 14:12.45 | Esya | it's not in ss -l |
| 14:12.57 | jelly | I think you need -p to see processes |
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| 14:14.11 | Esya | jelly: I meant the port is not opened anymore |
| 14:14.24 | Esya | but with -lp I can confirm its not there either |
| 14:14.49 | jaami | Esya: jelly , can you fix my net speed to maximum ? |
| 14:15.07 | Esya | jaami: ? That's not an actual question |
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| 14:15.15 | Esya | What problem are you having? |
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| 14:15.36 | jaami | net disconnect if i dont use it for sometime and it is quite slow |
| 14:15.52 | jelly | jaami: I haven't looked at your issue, sorry |
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| 14:16.15 | jaami | oh, no problem, i know you was busy |
| 14:16.16 | gentwo | how can i get the latest version of thunar??? what installed 1.23 !!!? and the latest version is 1.6.3 |
| 14:16.17 | Esya | jaami: Are you sure that it is debian related and not just to your ISP ? |
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| 14:17.06 | jaami | no, i think it is isp related, debian is fine but i was thinking there may be way to tell debian to find a secret way |
| 14:17.11 | jaami | or something *** |
| 14:17.43 | jaami | if i keep xchat open then connectin stay alive |
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| 14:19.15 | jaami | actually, i use hotspot to use same net on tablet, and tablet has to saty connected but i think if i dont run xchat on debian then mobile broadband stop on debian |
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| 14:20.25 | jaami | not sure if i am making it easy for you to understand what i want |
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| 14:20.31 | jaami | :) |
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| 14:21.02 | Esya | jaami: Not sure I understand indeed, your hotspot disconnects you after inactivity? |
| 14:21.52 | jaami | i use mobile broadband that when stop hotspot cant do nothing and my tablet get disconnected from net |
| 14:22.19 | jaami | and mobile broadband stop when i dont use it for sometime |
| 14:22.46 | jelly | Esya: if you really have that many connections, you might have to tune various timeouts so conntrack doesn't remember half-closed or half-open connections for too long |
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| 14:22.52 | jaami | so thought may be a ping command that run as background process may keep connection alive |
| 14:22.53 | Esya | jelly: Hmm. Yup |
| 14:22.57 | Esya | I need to do this indeed. |
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| 14:23.08 | Esya | Thanks for the advice |
| 14:23.31 | jelly | jaami: it shouldn't be a problem to run a ping to somewhere in a separate xterm or screen or tmux, should it? |
| 14:24.31 | jaami | yes, how i do it, what command i should run in terminal |
| 14:24.49 | jelly | Esya: I have net.nf_conntrack_max=262144 on my dns caches, and some udp timeouts lowered; you seem to be running a tcp service tho |
| 14:24.59 | Esya | It is a tcp service indeed |
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| 14:25.36 | Esya | jelly: It stabilized at 350k |
| 14:25.54 | jelly | how many are outbound? |
| 14:26.09 | Esya | None should b |
| 14:26.11 | Esya | Be* |
| 14:26.22 | Esya | A quick oneliner to figure out? |
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| 14:26.56 | Esya | vnstat shows 8mb in and 2mb out, seems alright |
| 14:27.09 | Esya | per sec i mean |
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| 14:28.46 | XArnasX | Fresh install port scan here http://paste.debian.net/84363/ Many unknown services, how to identify them and turn them off ? |
| 14:29.32 | SirLagz | XArnasX: netstat or lsof on the box to see what's listening on those ports |
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| 14:30.18 | Esya | ss -lp |
| 14:30.20 | Esya | will do just fine |
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| 14:30.27 | Esya | XArnasX : ss -lp |
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| 14:30.32 | Esya | Will give you port + process |
| 14:31.01 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Esya about enter |
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| 14:31.46 | Jarmer | hey everyone, how do I change the password on the "default" keyring? I've changed my username password for my account, and for instance when I open the package manager it asks for that, but whenever I connect to a vpn or anything with my network manager utility, it asks for the password for the "default keyring" which I cannot for the life of me figure out how to change... Any ideas? |
| 14:31.56 | Esya | dpkg: tell abrotman about I-am-sorry-and-there-are-not-many-people-speaking-right-now-anyways |
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| 14:32.36 | jelly | XArnasX: you'll want to portscan from outside, those services bound to localhost usually don't represent a huge attack surface |
| 14:33.15 | abrotman | Esya: that's not the point .. I've made it a point not to help you because you cannot control your enter key. I can't be the only one that finds it irritating and likely a sign of a PEBKAC they don't want to deal with. Have a nice day. |
| 14:33.48 | Esya | abrotman, nothing to do with PEBKAC.. |
| 14:33.52 | abrotman | Right ... |
| 14:34.16 | Esya | But, hey, if for you, the fact that I had a low conntrack_count threshold is a PEBKAC, that's big news. |
| 14:34.44 | abrotman | Good luck! |
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| 14:35.02 | Esya | Righttt.... You're the type of person that is kind of wrong with the unix community. Just saying. |
| 14:35.27 | Esya | And you'll notice that I know have multiple sentences. In one go. Where I would have put spaces. Because I can use irony as well. "Good luck!" |
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| 14:35.43 | jelly | Esya: don't annoy the op dude |
| 14:35.53 | abrotman | Esya: Do you need help with Debian? Please control your enter key and good luck. |
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| 14:36.12 | Esya | Yes I do, Yes I'm controlling my enter key. |
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| 14:37.09 | XArnasX | Ok i do try to look with netstat and do portscan from outside |
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| 14:38.34 | val_erie | I want to install debian wheezy and my only choice is USB flashdrive . I downloaded debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso and used command cat debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso > /dev/sdc1; sync. I enabled in BIOS 'boot usb devices first', but computer still boots from hard drive. The usb flash is W95 FAT32 system. What else can I do to boot from usb? |
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| 14:39.10 | abrotman | val_erie: you probably wanted /dev/sdc .. not sdc1 |
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| 14:40.27 | jampola | val_erie: sudo dd if=debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sd(x) bs=1M |
| 14:40.47 | jampola | x being whatever your usb stick is |
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| 14:41.30 | petern_ | or "cp debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdx" on something modernish |
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| 14:42.31 | petern_ | but you're writing to the flash directly, so the filesystem it had is irrelevant |
| 14:42.37 | petern_ | (hope you didn't have anything important on it) |
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| 14:46.14 | stew | petern_: that doesn't require anything modern fwiw |
| 14:46.20 | tezl | hi, I'm having a problem with pre-seeding the root password for slapd with debconf-set-selections -- my question is the same as https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux.debian.user/izpts73lg_s -- does anyone know how to solve it? |
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| 14:47.36 | val_erie | abrotman, thanks that was the mistake |
| 14:47.54 | val_erie | its working now |
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| 14:53.32 | jaami | can someone tell me how to edit this file Preferences (Linux).sublime-settings |
| 14:53.50 | jaami | nano does not open it because of ( |
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| 14:54.39 | jordanm | jaami: editor '(Linux).sublime-settings' |
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| 14:56.22 | jaami | jordanm: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' same issue |
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| 14:56.57 | jaami | oh i think i did not follow command exactly |
| 14:57.11 | jordanm | jaami: the quotes are important |
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| 14:57.33 | jaami | but that opened new file |
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| 14:57.53 | jaami | jordanm: the file already exist i want to change it |
| 14:58.03 | jordanm | jaami: it opened a file named (Linux).sublime-settings |
| 14:58.18 | jordanm | if the file doesn't exist, a new one is created |
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| 14:59.05 | jaami | jordanm: the full file name is this Preferences (Linux).sublime-settings |
| 14:59.18 | jaami | "Preferences (Linux).sublime-settings" |
| 14:59.20 | ws2k3__ | Hello, is it possible to install mysql server 5.1 from the repository instead of 5.5? |
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| 15:01.35 | jaami | jordanm: YES , my mistake i did not use quotes at right place. i can edit that file now. thanks |
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| 15:02.34 | esing | Hi, what APT Archive Generation Tool do you recommend for setting up a local debian repository? |
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| 15:18.06 | jelly | ws2k3__: no, set up a squeeze chroot (but be aware squeeze only has 3-4 months of life support left) |
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| 15:25.56 | Esya | I have a "dumb" question about conntrack and the way the table works. If I have 100 incoming connections for a service. that makes 100 entries in the table, right? If I then use HAProxy and balance the connections across 2 processes, is conntrack gonna have 200 entries? |
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| 15:26.01 | n0c | has anyone noticed and have a resolution for pam_winbind.so not successfully logging in Active Directory accounts in loonix when the password expiration reminder comes up (usually within 14 days of password expiry)? |
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| 15:26.57 | jelly | Esya: on the haproxy machine? that sounds reasonable |
| 15:27.22 | jelly | Esya: depends on how you connect to those processes tho |
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| 15:27.37 | Esya | jelly: That's just me wondering about the way conntrack works. I have a TCP service that is an opensource solution and is not multithreaded. |
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| 15:27.52 | Esya | jelly: I will prolly put haproxy in front of it and run that service on multiple ports |
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| 15:28.32 | jelly | obviously if you connect to local process over a unix domain socket, that won't be seen in ip_conntrack |
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| 15:30.41 | arthurfiggis | hello :) for anyone who is using wheezy-backports...i use nmap to scan my own system every now and then to see what ports are open, whether apache started properly etc. ;) i've noticed that scanning localhost in the backports version of nmap doesn't reveal that port 8118 (privoxy's default) is open, though, although it did in previous versions...is that something that should be reported as a... |
| 15:30.43 | arthurfiggis | ...(possible) bug? |
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| 15:39.08 | Persopolis | could anyone assist with this plz: http://pastebin.com/uesFmBiq |
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| 15:41.39 | frediz | Persopolis: you need to install pkg-config package I think |
| 15:42.22 | Persopolis | don;t think so - it's issue with boost lib no working with pkg-config |
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| 15:43.15 | frediz | Persopolis: you need to check you config.log then |
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| 15:45.32 | Persopolis | frediz - last thing in log is #define HAVE_WORKING_BOOST_SLEEP 1 configure: exit 1 |
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| 15:45.55 | Sbroker | hi from Spain julandrones anglo hablantes |
| 15:46.21 | frediz | Persopolis: paste the whole file online, it's often far above the end which is a sort of summaru |
| 15:46.23 | frediz | y |
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| 15:50.34 | sithfm | what's the preferred way to set pam options on debian systems? I need to tweak the operation of pam_winbind.so |
| 15:51.20 | sithfm | the documentation for it says ot edit /etc/security/pam_winbind.conf, which is secondary in effect to setting the options directly in the 'pam configuration file' |
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| 16:04.23 | gez | Hi, since the last update of gdk-pixbuf in Jessie my desktop doesn't show the background image, and gnome-control-center crashes when I go to the background image section. Has anyone experienced this problem? |
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| 16:05.13 | tremon | sithfm: the "pam configuration file" is /etc/pam.conf. But I'd still put winbind-specific stuff in pam_winbind.conf |
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| 16:06.04 | tremon | (plus pam.conf is generally empty, and you'd need to look at the collection of files in pam.d instead) |
| 16:07.14 | gez | Here's the backtrace: http://www.ohweb.com.ar/paste/?paste=3 (gnome-control-center) |
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| 16:07.42 | Persopolis | frediz: http://pastebin.com/T9AiVYmy |
| 16:09.22 | sithfm | tremon: ok, since pam_winbind.conf doesn't currently exist on my system I thought I'd just keep it simple |
| 16:09.33 | sithfm | thanks for your input |
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| 16:12.09 | Persopolis | frediz: think it's @ lines 1923->1925 |
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| 16:12.35 | jaami | how i can remove ESTABLISHED connections displayed in netstat |
| 16:12.38 | tremon | gez: you should install libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0-dbg (and probably also the libgio debug package) and re-run the backtrace, then submit a bug |
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| 16:13.05 | jaami | what app is best to close ESTABLISHED connections |
| 16:13.23 | gez | tremon: ouch, yes :) Thanks |
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| 16:15.32 | frediz | Persopolis: the test snippet just above fails to compile because choke is unknown. But "choke me" that not seem to be regular C :) . So that means you shouldn't fail the test just before "BOOST_VERSION >= 105000 && (!defined(BOOST_HAS_NANOSLEEP) || BOOST_VERSION >= 105200)" |
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| 16:19.08 | Persopolis | i'm pretty sure this wrong version boost lib - can't find boost lib 1.37 packaged anywhere for debian (which is the version I think this app was tested against) |
| 16:20.07 | gez | tremon: I installed libgdk-pixbuf dbg package but I couldn't find one for libgio. Is this new bt any useful for a bug report? http://www.ohweb.com.ar/paste/?paste=4 |
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| 16:20.27 | gez | And btw, should I file a bug under gnome-control-center or libgdk-pixbuf? |
| 16:20.31 | Persopolis | ls |
| 16:20.35 | Persopolis | oops |
| 16:20.36 | gentwo | what version of thunar is stable? |
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| 16:21.06 | petn-randall | ,v thunar |
| 16:21.08 | judd | Package: thunar on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0.2-1+b2; wheezy: 1.2.3-4+b1; jessie: 1.6.3-1; sid: 1.6.3-1 |
| 16:21.14 | petn-randall | ^^^ gentwo |
| 16:21.24 | gentwo | i have 1.2.3 i am looking for the latest 1.6.3 !! is there a change to get the latest ? |
| 16:21.38 | gentwo | petn-randall: didn't understand |
| 16:23.45 | jelly | gentwo: you're stuck with 1.2.3 in the current debian release. the testing branch has newer xfce (and thus thunar) but is, well, testing |
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| 16:24.26 | jelly | things break there and it may eat your potted plants |
| 16:24.33 | tremon | gez: the debug files appear to be in libglib2.0-0-dbg and glib-networking-dbg. If the backtrace doesn't improve with that, you can still submit it and maybe ask the maintainer for pointers on how to produce a better backtrace |
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| 16:26.03 | frediz | Persopolis: I checked the log, and that seems pretty weird. It fails finding many .h files and at line 143 : "gcc: error: unrecognized command line option '-V'" as if your compiler had a problem. What's your machine, what gcc -V gives ? |
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| 16:26.39 | tremon | gez: I see there's 3 threads active, maybe you want to include "thread apply all bt" instead of only "bt" |
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| 16:27.12 | jaami | can gufw stop already established connections if i define new rule to deny ? |
| 16:27.33 | frediz | Persopolis: I have to go. Obviously the build process doesn't have only problems with libboost but with all your build env. |
| 16:27.53 | Persopolis | frediz: version 4.7.2 of gcc though I had to do --version |
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| 16:31.11 | frediz | Persopolis: oh that seems ok actually but all the errors on .h or "gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1obj': execvp: No such file or directory" are weird |
| 16:31.36 | gez | tremon: Yes, with that command and the dbg packages you suggested the new bt is more complete http://ohweb.com.ar/paste/?paste=6 |
| 16:31.36 | gez | Thank you |
| 16:31.42 | gentwo | jelly: how can i install the test version? 1.2.3 doesn't show the network mounted files in the directory.. |
| 16:31.53 | gez | So, what's the appropriate package to report this issue? gnome-control-center? |
| 16:32.08 | frediz | Persopolis: did you install build-essential ? |
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| 16:32.45 | tremon | I'd say yes, since that's what you've produced a backtrace of. If the bug is in a library, the maintainer will reassign it |
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| 16:34.02 | jelly | gentwo: realize testing branch _will_ break and misbehave and we won't help you with that. That said, see /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie |
| 16:34.02 | gez | tremon: thank you very much. I'll file the report. |
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| 16:36.12 | Persopolis | frediz - yes build-essential was one the first things i put on |
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| 16:40.38 | axper | I have minimal Debian install, how do I shut it down? shutdown/halt/poweroff commands don't exist. |
| 16:41.22 | rotad | sudo shutdown -h now |
| 16:41.50 | f-five | try /sbin/shutdown -h now |
| 16:42.07 | Fragger | if it doesn't have sudo you will have to su first |
| 16:42.08 | f-five | ...in case /sbin is not in your $PATH |
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| 16:42.44 | axper | thanks, f-five! |
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| 16:47.38 | jaami | do i have to run psad manually or it loads and run automatically? |
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| 16:48.39 | gentwo | jelly: please help me with the source list.. i am having bit trouble,... |
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| 16:49.28 | petn-randall | !sns |
| 16:49.29 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 16:49.40 | jaami | msg dpkg psad |
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| 16:49.47 | jelly | gentwo: sorry, no, the last sentence says "If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while." |
| 16:49.47 | gentwo | jelly: http://pastebin.com/4TKrhXWq |
| 16:50.09 | petn-randall | gentwo: Stick with stable, unless you can debug problem with a testing release, and you're willing to contribute to bug reports. |
| 16:50.16 | petn-randall | s/problem/problems/ |
| 16:50.42 | petn-randall | gentwo: btw, network filesystems "work" fine with my installation and thunar. |
| 16:50.54 | gentwo | jelly: is that enough the source list? do i need any other items there? |
| 16:51.14 | gentwo | also i guess this line is wrong!!!deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 16:51.27 | gentwo | correct me if i am wrong...please |
| 16:51.29 | arthurfiggis | petn-randall: that's pretty much what i would recommend as well...and i used to use ubuntu and fedora, so i spent a lot of time with "bleeding edge" software too :P eventually i think everyone who uses computers, especially systems programmers, eventually just want everything to work properly...debian stable + backports for drivers/hardware support is great for that |
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| 16:51.46 | jelly | gentwo: that's a sane configuration for wheezy (the current release) |
| 16:51.56 | gentwo | petn-randall: i only need thunar latest version.. nothing else... |
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| 16:52.22 | petn-randall | gentwo: You can't mix stable and testing, it will break your system. |
| 16:52.35 | gentwo | jelly: is this line is wrong in sourcelist. "http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" |
| 16:52.59 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell gentwo about sources.list |
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| 16:59.55 | gentwo | whats the difference in this??? confused "<wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates>" |
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| 17:01.00 | DexterF | hi |
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| 17:02.21 | DexterF | when I dd_rescue an ext4 partition with the sparse option -a , will it only copy the used blocks, thus be faster at writing the backup but I can still loopmount that file? |
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| 17:06.05 | gentwo | can someone suggest another filemanger for xfce? |
| 17:06.20 | DexterF | gentwo: requirement? |
| 17:07.10 | vimel | gentwo: theres nautilus, dolphin, spacefm |
| 17:07.13 | littlebear | gentwo: ncommander was pretty good i think |
| 17:07.25 | DexterF | xfe is very light |
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| 17:08.07 | gentwo | DexterF: simply i can't see any files in the directery(network mounted) i think this is a bug in 1.23 thunar |
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| 17:10.04 | gentwo | vimel: not planning for kde & gnome items.... |
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| 17:10.22 | vimel | try spacefm |
| 17:10.39 | vimel | its independent of either |
| 17:10.58 | vimel | xfe looks nice tho. i think ill play w it. |
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| 17:12.58 | gentwo | vimel: spacefm? |
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| 17:13.16 | gentwo | DexterF: xfe going to bring the audaciouse with it!!!? |
| 17:13.46 | vimel | http://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/screenshots.html |
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| 17:14.01 | vimel | http://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/ |
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| 17:20.32 | gentwo | DexterF: that does the job.. thanks for xfe... as a gift it installed also audacious |
| 17:20.34 | DexterF | gentwo: the what? |
| 17:20.41 | arthurfiggis | that looks interesting...although i'm used to using kde, so gnome 3 feels lightweight to me when i use it :) plus it has a great screen reader...it's a bit bizarre at first but once it's set up properly it's nice |
| 17:20.49 | gentwo | DexterF: the audio player... |
| 17:20.49 | DexterF | in debiam, xfe pulled *audacious* as a dependency? |
| 17:20.52 | gentwo | :() |
| 17:21.00 | gentwo | DexterF: yes it does |
| 17:21.10 | DexterF | beats me. |
| 17:21.18 | gentwo | DexterF: i am shocked |
| 17:21.53 | gentwo | DexterF: may be because i am using the synaptic package manager? |
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| 17:22.02 | tremon | it's a recommends, but I'd say that's still too strong a dependency |
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| 17:23.03 | DexterF | it might be that xfe does stuff with it by default. anyway, it's bogus and I'd uninstall it again |
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| 17:26.10 | petn-randall | gentwo: How is the remote filesystem mounted? Can you see the directory contents on the command line? |
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| 17:57.17 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 17:57.17 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 17:57.53 | riverloop | !msg |
| 17:57.53 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
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| 18:18.53 | busch | !topic |
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| 18:21.44 | LtL | busch: /topic |
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| 18:24.34 | padski | hmm ... apt-cache show python-software-properties | grep Depends: |
| 18:25.01 | abrotman | apt-cache depends foo |
| 18:25.30 | padski | Version: 0.82.7.1debian1 .... Depends: ... python-apt (>= 0.6.20ubuntu16) |
| 18:25.46 | abrotman | judd: depends python-software-properties |
| 18:25.47 | judd | Package python-software-properties in wheezy/i386 -- depends: python2.7 | python2.6, python (>= 2.6.6-7~), python (<< 2.8), python-apt (>= 0.6.20ubuntu16), lsb-release, python-gnupginterface, unattended-upgrades, iso-codes, python-pycurl. |
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| 18:28.43 | nathan___ | Hello |
| 18:28.49 | SebastianJose_XD | hola |
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| 18:29.54 | nathan___ | I would like some help in the use of Debian LIve |
| 18:30.07 | nathan___ | (sorry for my poor english...i'm french) |
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| 18:43.36 | jaami | can somebody find download link for iceweasel for debian wheezy 64bit |
| 18:44.21 | petn-randall | jaami: It's in the repositories, use your package manager to install it. |
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| 18:44.40 | Mousey | apt-get install iceweasel |
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| 18:45.13 | jaami | i get warning on libmozjs24d , so thought may be direct download will work |
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| 18:45.42 | padski | so, python-software-properties in wheezy/i386 -- depends: python-apt (>= 0.6.20ubuntu16). Bug or feature? |
| 18:45.47 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell jaami -about bat |
| 18:45.58 | jaami | warning is about the package is not authenticated |
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| 18:46.01 | petn-randall | jaami: Can you provide the info dpkg asked you about? |
| 18:46.16 | jaami | or should i ignore that warning? |
| 18:46.57 | petn-randall | jaami: No, you shouldn't ignore the warning. |
| 18:47.03 | petn-randall | padski: How is that a bug? |
| 18:47.28 | jaami | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 18:47.28 | jaami | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:49.36 | EmoneyRu | Is it? |
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| 18:49.50 | padski | if it were a version of a debian package then it would make sense. I'm not even sure how to compare 0.6.20debian16 to 0.6.20ubuntu16. Is it alphabetical ? is 0.6.20ubuntuN always greater than 0.6.20debianN ? |
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| 18:51.37 | petn-randall | padski: Yes to both questions. It was only relevant for any transition at the time wheezy was still in testing, since python-apt is much larger (0.8.8.2) in wheezy. |
| 18:51.59 | padski | So, its a feature :-) |
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| 18:52.18 | tremon | it's a relic |
| 18:52.48 | jaami | petn-randall: dpkg asking me to count all stars before sleeping :) i dont know what to provide, need to know some easy way to install a better browser if iceweasel isnt installing without the warning |
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| 18:53.05 | petn-randall | padski: It's the maintainer being nice so you can upgrade your antique testing version of wheezy to the current stable wheezy without troubles. |
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| 18:53.40 | petn-randall | jaami: dpkg is asking you to provide the output of 3 commands, which we need to debug the problem. |
| 18:53.58 | tremon | padski: also, debian never uses X.Y.ZdebianN release numbering -- we're the upstream :) |
| 18:54.06 | kyle__ | Is the user backup (uid 34, gid 34) part of the base system, or installed as part of another package? |
| 18:54.15 | padski | tremon, good point! |
| 18:54.20 | jaami | petn-randall: hmm, ok i re-try |
| 18:54.50 | padski | tremon, but wrong. Version: 0.82.7.1debian1 |
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| 18:55.09 | tremon | heh. should've included almost in that statement |
| 18:55.22 | padski | ooh, apologies, thats x.y.z.NdebianN |
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| 18:55.55 | tremon | which package is that? |
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| 18:56.30 | padski | but, it could have been X.Y.ZdebianN. its python-software-properties in wheezy. |
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| 18:57.04 | nathan___ | Hello |
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| 18:57.20 | nathan___ | Can somebody help me in the use of Debian Live ? |
| 18:57.34 | nathan___ | I try to use it behind a company proxy |
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| 18:57.51 | rozie | nathan___: and the problem is? |
| 18:58.03 | padski | trem0r, I think the upstream is ubuntu. |
| 18:58.23 | nathan___ | but the command 'lb bootstrap_debootstrap' does not use the proxy settings |
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| 18:59.28 | kyle__ | nathan___: There are a few common environmental variables for proxies. http_proxy https_proxy HTTP_PROXY HTTPS_PROXY. There are probably more. you need to set whichever one it uses. |
| 18:59.50 | nathan___ | it is supposed to be solved in the git repository : https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2013/06/msg00070.html |
| 19:00.00 | rozie | nathan___: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-set-proxy-environment-variable/ |
| 19:00.17 | nathan___ | But I didn't succeed neither with this version |
| 19:00.20 | cybrNaut | is freenode up? anyone see me? |
| 19:00.22 | rozie | also, take a look on manual of lb command |
| 19:00.36 | rozie | cybrNaut: no, you are invisible |
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| 19:00.47 | rozie | ;) |
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| 19:01.03 | nathan___ | I think that the proxy settings are correct...the first steps are doing just fine |
| 19:01.16 | nathan___ | all the packages are downloaded |
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| 19:01.32 | nathan___ | (sorry for the english i'm french) |
| 19:01.33 | cybrNaut | cool.. just as long as I'm not mute |
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| 19:03.00 | kyle__ | nathan___: What part is failing? What exact error is it giving? |
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| 19:04.24 | nathan___ | It fails after downloading the packages |
| 19:04.34 | wols | !errors |
| 19:04.34 | dpkg | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. Please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead; ask me about <pastebin>. |
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| 19:04.45 | nathan___ | It executes this command : lb bootstrap_archive-keys |
| 19:04.49 | wols | nathan___: pastebin your command and its full output |
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| 19:05.16 | nathan___ | Ok |
| 19:05.20 | nathan___ | Just a minute |
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| 19:07.51 | sorenson | I'm trying to get QEMU working over a bridge, but when the VM reboots, the bridge crashes. Running /etc/init.d/networking restart gives me the error: failed to start bro / ioctl (TUNSTIFF) device or resource busy. Here's a pastebin of my /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.ca/2647667 What am I doing incorrectly? |
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| 19:11.21 | sorenson | Heh, come on! :) I did my research, asked a direct question, provided supporting information and clear error messages, and nothing? :-D |
| 19:11.39 | petern_ | You waited 4 minutes. Come on... |
| 19:11.52 | sorenson | petern_: Fair enough. |
| 19:12.23 | sorenson | I really was joking, I know this may not be completely straigtforward. |
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| 19:14.16 | nathan___ | <wols><kyle> Here is a gist : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9257010 |
| 19:15.29 | petern_ | dunno what the tap0 stuff is about |
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| 19:16.45 | petern_ | my bridged qemu/kvm setup doesn't use tap0 |
| 19:17.09 | sorenson | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUN/TAP |
| 19:17.23 | sorenson | Hrm.. didn't know if it was necessary, but the Debian docs say to include it. |
| 19:17.43 | petern_ | i know what tap is, but it's not needed for bridging or qemu. maybe you had it for something else. |
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| 19:17.55 | sorenson | I have a different config that doesn't use the TAP, but it still doesn't work. |
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| 19:19.43 | petern_ | http://paste.debian.net/84441/ |
| 19:19.45 | petern_ | that's all i have |
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| 19:20.21 | sorenson | petern_: Here is my much more pared down version, that still doesn't work: http://pastebin.ca/2647677 |
| 19:20.27 | sorenson | petern_: Looking at yours now. |
| 19:21.14 | Mousey | The internet is a utility, just like water and electricity. |
| 19:21.26 | sorenson | petern_: What do you have for your eth0 config? |
| 19:21.42 | eean | Mousey: it ain't no dump truck, I know that much |
| 19:21.43 | sorenson | i.e. is it set to manual, or static? |
| 19:21.47 | petern_ | manual |
| 19:21.59 | esing | Hi, what APT Archive Generation Tool do you recommend for setting up a local debian repository? |
| 19:22.12 | sorenson | K, let me try yours, see what happens. |
| 19:22.20 | eean | esing: I use reprepro |
| 19:22.26 | petern_ | how are you running qemu? |
| 19:22.28 | eean | it's easy |
| 19:22.30 | sorenson | petern_: BTW, thanks for your help. |
| 19:22.46 | sorenson | petern_: from command line. Would you like the string? |
| 19:23.06 | esing | eean, Ye that was the only tool mentioned for local repositories in debians APT archive generation tool list. Thanks for assuring |
| 19:23.29 | Mousey | there's other |
| 19:23.32 | Mousey | like apt-proxy |
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| 19:23.35 | Mousey | apt-cacher-ng |
| 19:23.44 | Mousey | those make excelent local repositories |
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| 19:23.50 | Mousey | with benefits |
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| 19:24.04 | eean | well yea, if you don't have your own packages |
| 19:24.16 | eean | could just use a squid proxy or something :) |
| 19:24.41 | petern_ | i set mine up via libvirtd |
| 19:24.49 | esing | eean, I already downloaded the debian repository with ftpsync (only i386 packages, I excluded the other architectures). With reprepro I can easily map the downloaded repofiles to reprepro or would you use anyways ftpsync to rsync a repository or does reprepro also can rsync that? |
| 19:24.55 | petern_ | so not all that familiar with qemu command lines |
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| 19:25.20 | eean | esing: ah, so you are mirroring, you might look into the stuff Mousey mentioned instead |
| 19:25.28 | Mousey | --^ |
| 19:25.36 | Mousey | apt-proxy and apt-cacher-ng |
| 19:25.38 | Mousey | and approx |
| 19:25.50 | Mousey | actually approx is what i use, but i'll probably migrate to apt-cacher-ng one day |
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| 19:26.31 | sorenson | petern_: So far so good. interface came up nicely. Now to try the VM. brb. |
| 19:26.54 | esing | Good to know, thanks. I heard about apt-cacher. So I would just tell apt-catcher the path to the repository and then any client can get it from the apt-catcher server I guess |
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| 19:28.59 | Mousey | alll my internal nodes point to an internal box (regardless of debian or ubuntu). if the inernal repo box doesn't have it, it transparently proxies it from the great beyond. |
| 19:29.17 | Mousey | but that way, i avoid saturating my pipe when i do apt-get upgrade across the fleet at once |
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| 19:29.40 | eean | we just use a normal squid proxy for apt caching :) |
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| 19:29.50 | Mousey | eean: some people like to do things the hard way =) |
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| 19:31.22 | esing | eean, I don't quiet understand what reprepro is doing. Is it not also using a mirrored repository and distributes the packages in LAN? |
| 19:31.44 | eean | it's not for mirroring really. I use it to publish a apt repo with my custom package. |
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| 19:32.23 | Mousey | oh, yea. i use puppet to distribute sources.lists that point to the internal repo. |
| 19:32.24 | Mousey | same diff |
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| 19:32.46 | Mousey | even custom repos are captured by approx instance |
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| 19:33.31 | esing | I see. And once I setup apt-cacher I regulary ftpsync the packages on my external hdd where I put the packages to keep them uptodate? |
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| 19:34.12 | Mousey | it should keep itself up to date. as packages disappear from upstream repos they should be culled from your cache |
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| 19:34.27 | Mousey | oh, wait |
| 19:34.55 | Mousey | no no, that's right |
| 19:35.14 | Mousey | you can tell apt-cacher where you want the files to reside. i don't understand why you'd necessarily need to ftpsync anything |
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| 19:36.37 | sorenson | petern_: Closer. br0 is there, no problem. But when I boot the VM, it still has a 10.x IP. I think it has to do with the command I'm sending. I'll research how to tell qemu to use the bridged connection, unless you happen to know off of the top of your head. |
| 19:36.39 | lapache | Plz, someone is ok with the gnujump exercise of packaging-tutorial plz ? |
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| 19:38.21 | esing | Mousey, The packages that I already downloaded with ftpsync can reside on my external hdd by telling apt-catcher to look in /mnt/externalhdd/ and then I'd use just apt-get to update the packages in /mnt/externalhdd? |
| 19:38.53 | Mousey | oh yea. i guess you can retro it in like that. having downloaded the debian repo is a fools errand anyway since it's stale as soon as you've done it. |
| 19:39.36 | Mousey | there might be metadata it can't account for, or some other challange, as i've never tried that, and there will be some RTFMing on your part. I generally let my internal repos grow organically |
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| 19:43.03 | esing | Mousey, If the computer where the repository is located has no internet connection too, then the approach with rsync would be the only way I guess |
| 19:43.03 | petern_ | sorenson, "-netdev tap,fd=20,id=hostnet0 -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet0,id=net0,mac=52:54:00:xx:xx:xx,bus=pci.0,addr=0x3" is what's in my commandline |
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| 19:43.26 | petern_ | same for all except the mac |
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| 19:43.55 | Mousey | well, the proxy part would fail |
| 19:43.56 | esing | (So you would regulary put the external hdd on a system with internet and update the repository and put it then back to the system with apt-cacher running and reload everything in) |
| 19:44.05 | Mousey | but general pacakge availability would be there |
| 19:44.24 | Mousey | yes, though. i think you're talking about a workable, approachable soulution |
| 19:45.30 | esing | Thanks for the advice, I look into apt-cacher documentation and see how it works |
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| 19:47.54 | Mousey | esing: may the source be with you, always. |
| 19:50.34 | esing | Mousey, Thank you, may the source be with us all. |
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| 20:01.46 | OmegaPhil | UK repo HTTP d/l speeds have gotten much better recently - getting 3-5MB/Sec, kudos to whoever runs it |
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| 20:04.45 | tremon | elik: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt |
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| 20:06.01 | tremon | summary: sets the NIS domainname. (virtually) obsolete |
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| 20:06.43 | abailarri | Hello. I have a server with some webs with domains. And strangly, now, one domain not works. Where can I see if there is some error? I use bind and apache |
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| 20:08.24 | sorenson | Well, that's frustrating. brctl shows br0, but no vnets. |
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| 20:08.48 | sorenson | Any idea why brctl would show the bridge but not any vnets? |
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| 20:10.03 | elik | tremon: hum, ok, but is it normal that, having set my kernel.domainname variable to something, cat /proc/sys/kernel/domainname returns (none)? |
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| 20:10.20 | elik | tremon: it makes me feel like my sysctl.conf is ignored, hence the no fowarding |
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| 20:12.56 | tremon | what happens if you run service procps start ? |
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| 20:13.04 | tremon | (as root) |
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| 20:14.04 | elik | Setting kernel variables... done |
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| 20:14.22 | tremon | ok, is it set now? |
| 20:14.23 | elik | still no proc sys kernel domainname |
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| 20:15.35 | elik | I mean, it's there, but set to (none) |
| 20:16.21 | tremon | ok, can you run sh -x /etc/init.d/procps start and paste the output to a pastebin? |
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| 20:17.19 | tremon | you can also edit /etc/init.d/procps start and comment the QUIET_SYSCTL="-q" line |
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| 20:19.05 | FeriKe | If i created a xorg.conf, what do I need to modify to force a resolution which I can use with xrandr? |
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| 20:19.34 | elik | tremon: http://pastebin.com/qXUfpHD1 |
| 20:19.42 | elik | tremon: I didn't remove quiet though |
| 20:19.50 | elik | that's the output for the first command |
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| 20:21.13 | tremon | ok, it's not finding any configuration files. What's the output of find /etc/sysctl* ? |
| 20:21.14 | elik | removing quiet does not provide further output |
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| 20:23.12 | tremon | FeriKe: let's back up a step. Why do you need to force a resolution, and why do you think you need xorg.conf to use xrandr? |
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| 20:24.21 | elik | tremon: /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 20:24.21 | elik | /etc/sysctl.conf.dpkg-dist |
| 20:24.21 | elik | /etc/sysctl.d |
| 20:24.21 | elik | /etc/sysctl.d/README.sysctl |
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| 20:24.41 | FeriKe | tremon, Because that resolution fits best to my needs and i don't want to use a script which starts with the system. |
| 20:24.43 | elik | sry about the spam, I thought I had joined the lines |
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| 20:26.52 | elik | tremon: http://pastebin.com/X0A3PgAi |
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| 20:28.10 | tremon | elik: that's odd. can you paste /etc/init.d/procps as well, it looks like it's not following wheezy's script, and can you also try running sysctl --load=/etc/sysctl.conf manually? |
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| 20:29.14 | jaami | hi, is there a way to recover debian if its not booting at all? |
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| 20:29.31 | elik | tremon: I'm on testing |
| 20:29.48 | centrx | jaami, How far does the boot get? |
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| 20:30.10 | elik | tremon: manual load does work |
| 20:30.33 | jaami | centtr disk read light stop just before login screen |
| 20:30.36 | tremon | FeriKe: ok, fair enough, but then why did you mention xrandr (the cmdline tool)? As for your question, you need a Monitor and Screen section in xorg.conf. |
| 20:31.05 | jaami | i did something like apt-get auto-remove |
| 20:31.16 | jaami | that removed main debian packages |
| 20:31.31 | nkuttler | jaami: that's not something autoremove does |
| 20:31.43 | jaami | it happened |
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| 20:31.56 | jaami | now debian not booting |
| 20:32.00 | nkuttler | jaami: you get to the grub menu, right? |
| 20:32.11 | tremon | elik: ah, that helps. At least the script now makes sense. But it looks like sysctl --system is not doing what sysctl --load=/etc/sysctl.conf was doing before. |
| 20:32.24 | elik | tremon: indeed |
| 20:32.31 | elik | tremon: straceing a bit |
| 20:32.43 | jaami | i have gparted usb that helps to start booting debian but it never reach login |
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| 20:32.54 | nkuttler | jaami: that doesn't mean anything |
| 20:33.10 | jaami | i get to grub menu |
| 20:33.13 | nkuttler | jaami: do you know anybody who is familiar with debian, or any linux? |
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| 20:33.29 | FeriKe | tremon, I wrote that resolution works with xrandr to prove that my system supports that resolution |
| 20:33.30 | jaami | ahh, i guess nobody |
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| 20:33.44 | tremon | elik: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732920 |
| 20:33.52 | nkuttler | jaami: so your machine boots normally, but your desktop manager doesn't start, right? |
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| 20:34.00 | tremon | fixed in version 1.3.3.9-3, released about a week ago |
| 20:34.03 | jaami | that is right |
| 20:34.14 | elik | tremon: yeah, i was looking into the bugs :) |
| 20:34.27 | nkuttler | jaami: which debian release are you on? |
| 20:34.47 | jaami | 7.1 or something not sure now |
| 20:34.57 | nkuttler | jaami: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:35.02 | FeriKe | tremon, So in the screen a nd monitor section there will be my video card and monitor data? |
| 20:35.03 | jaami | should i check that , i will have to reboot |
| 20:35.13 | jaami | oh actually im on win |
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| 20:35.33 | jaami | i had dual boot system with win7 |
| 20:35.49 | elik | tremon: and apt-listbugs didn't pick it up because it's already fixed in unstable |
| 20:35.53 | nkuttler | jaami: 7 would mean wheezy. it's very unusual that x woul stop working on stable |
| 20:36.12 | jaami | yes wheezy |
| 20:36.31 | nkuttler | jaami: i would boot into the... recovery mode or whatever it's called and debug with startx what's going on... |
| 20:36.56 | tremon | FeriKe: you need a screen section to explicitly specify a monitor (Monitor "$monitor_section"), and a monitor section with a Modes subsection |
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| 20:37.47 | Ultip | jaami, I've had the same problem as you a few times and never really found why. Have you removed packages that are part of gnome? |
| 20:37.49 | tremon | FeriKe: although, since you say that you can simply select the correct mode with xrandr, it might be sufficient to only set PreferredMode "WxH" in the monitor section |
| 20:38.10 | elik | tremon: odd that 3.3.9 made it through to testing given the outstanding bugs, but 3.3.9-3 is being held |
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| 20:38.29 | elik | tremon: oh well, thank you very much for helping me track this down |
| 20:38.35 | jaami | nkuttler, yes, i did the same mistake before but that time before rebooting i installed missing packages but this time i rebooted |
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| 20:39.11 | jaami | yes Ultip |
| 20:39.55 | Ultip | jaami, I used to do that and I think it might cause the system to become unstable after about a month... |
| 20:39.56 | tremon | elik: well, it's not building on i386. That's quite a serious problem. As for the testing migration, not all known bugs automatically block migration to testing. Obviously, neither do unknown bugs |
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| 20:40.50 | Ultip | jaami, one time, replacing my desktop manager by KDM fixed the problem, but it might have been temporary, I'm not sure. |
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| 20:41.53 | riceandbeans | I broke dpkg and can't seem to fix it this time |
| 20:41.57 | jaami | Ultip, in this situation i have what i should do |
| 20:42.00 | riceandbeans | or well, puppet did |
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| 20:42.32 | riceandbeans | it tried to install a nagios part and it's left me at a recommending apt-get -f install |
| 20:42.37 | riceandbeans | but that doesn't work and fails every time |
| 20:42.47 | riceandbeans | not sure what to do when apt-get -f install fails |
| 20:43.19 | jaami | Ultip, is that possible if recovery mode can install missing packgaes ? |
| 20:43.26 | tremon | riceandbeans: oh, that's not quite so serious breakage. The simplest solution is to simply uninstall (dpkg -P) the offending package (probably the nagios thingy) |
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| 20:43.55 | riceandbeans | tremon: it won't let me though |
| 20:44.13 | riceandbeans | # apt-get purge nagios-plugins |
| 20:44.13 | riceandbeans | Reading package lists... Done |
| 20:44.13 | riceandbeans | Building dependency tree |
| 20:44.13 | riceandbeans | Reading state information... Done |
| 20:44.13 | riceandbeans | You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: |
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| 20:44.23 | Ultip | jaami, in my case the problem was that when I would boot debian, I would be left at the tty1 screen, so I could install kdm from there. I just realized that it might not be what's happening to you. |
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| 20:44.52 | tremon | !tell riceandbeans -about paste |
| 20:45.22 | WilliamDotSI | http://paste.debian.net/84463/ - What? smbd died and nearly killed my debian as well, mhm |
| 20:45.42 | jaami | Ultip, is it possible to re use same partition and all that still exist on debian partition and install debian again |
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| 20:45.54 | tremon | riceandbeans: note that I said dpkg -P, not apt-get remove. Can you please paste the complete output of apt-get install -f, apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy nagios-plugins? |
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| 20:46.11 | Ultip | jaami, yes. Just reinstall on top of it. |
| 20:46.15 | riceandbeans | tremon: actually using dpkg alone seems to have fixed it, thanks |
| 20:46.17 | tremon | WilliamDotSI: out of memory? |
| 20:46.30 | tremon | riceandbeans: see? not quite so serious :p |
| 20:47.02 | riceandbeans | tremon: well it looked really bad |
| 20:47.10 | riceandbeans | dpkg doesn't usually break like that |
| 20:47.10 | dpkg | riceandbeans: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 20:47.19 | jaami | Ultip, that i think i should try and for that i need to get my USB ready with bootable cd image on it. could you please spare tme to find exact iso image i can use. |
| 20:47.20 | riceandbeans | at least not unless you're in sid |
| 20:47.24 | WilliamDotSI | tremon: 32GB + 100G SWAP |
| 20:47.32 | riceandbeans | when it breaks in sid those are tough times |
| 20:47.32 | WilliamDotSI | at this point 8GB free and swap nearly unused |
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| 20:48.34 | Ultip | jaami, I never understood how to boot from USB, I always burn linux on a disk. :P |
| 20:49.15 | jaami | Ultip, i can use unetbootin but i need the wheezy image for usb |
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| 20:49.56 | jarjr | Ultip: use isohybrid on the iso, then dd it to usb |
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| 20:50.19 | tremon | WilliamDotSI: ok, I think we can safely rule out that possibility then. I'd take the backtrace to lkml, big iron problems are usually taken very seriously |
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| 20:50.40 | jaami | jarjr, linux is not booting im on win7 and i need the wheezy |
| 20:51.13 | jaami | jarjr, the dd must be used in any case? |
| 20:51.29 | Ultip | then http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst the one for your processor should be all fine... |
| 20:51.29 | Ultip | Thanks jarjr I will take note |
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| 20:52.27 | jaami | Ultip, that is just 280MB |
| 20:53.15 | jaami | oh ok , sorry did not read title, its via internet |
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| 20:54.18 | Ultip | :) |
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| 20:55.30 | Ultip | I had forgotten that there's a bigger version of the CD. Anyway it's easy to find on the website |
| 20:55.39 | jarjr | jaami: isohybrid linux.iso && dd if=/dev/"yourusb" of=linux.iso |
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| 20:56.46 | jaami | jarjr, thatk you, looking for isohybrid on internet |
| 20:57.10 | jaami | thank you *** |
| 20:57.13 | zykotick9 | jaami: fyi, the debian ISOs are already hybrid images... |
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| 20:58.41 | jaami | zykotick9, what that mean? what i need to do? |
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| 20:59.14 | rnd_ | question: Which drivers are for Intel Graphics |
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| 20:59.40 | zykotick9 | jaami: if you are using a debian ISO, then to create a USB just cp/cat/dd it to the drive sdb for example (not sdb1 which is a partition) - WARNING it'll overwrite everything on the USB |
| 21:01.25 | jaami | zykotick9, should i use win to make usb bootable or have to use some live cd of any linux distro |
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| 21:01.52 | zykotick9 | jaami: sorry, if you're using windows to create the image - i have no idea. best of luck. |
| 21:02.40 | jaami | zykotick9, oh ok, thank you for the instructions you gave. |
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| 21:06.22 | vimel | jaami: if you are using windows and want to create a debian bootable usb. make sure you have the correct ISO downloaded, format your USB to fat32, use unetbootin to create your bootable debian usb. |
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| 21:08.34 | jaami | vimel, that is sure important info , i rememebr i had hard time when installed wheezy, i kept notes online and luckily i have those right now with the link i used before |
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| 21:10.06 | vimel | jaami: cool. there are also vids on youtube on how to create a bootable USB with unetbootin. the key is to format the usb drive to fat32 to avoid hiccups. |
| 21:10.19 | jaami | vimel, i used dd before and i rememebr unetbootin was not working for me. but this time i have no otheroption except to use it |
| 21:10.54 | warcques | my flashdrive is swap space now :) |
| 21:10.55 | jaami | vimel, yes, that i have copy and saved in notes |
| 21:12.08 | jaami | vimel, is it somehow possible , i install wheezy again and recover all those apps previously installed on wheezy |
| 21:13.26 | kyle__ | Is the user backup (uid 34, gid 34) part of the base system, or installed as part of another package? |
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| 21:14.39 | vimel | once you install wheezy, your previous apps get overwritten. if you want to keep your files for a future install. there are programs like remastersys that allow you to take your current operating system + files and create a bootable USB. other than that you are out of luck and will have to either clone the hard disk drive that hosts your apps + operating system or reinstall apps once you reinstall OS. |
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| 21:16.09 | gen200 | did anyone else notice installing "xfe" bring the audacious along with it? |
| 21:16.24 | zykotick9 | kyle__: it's part of base install |
| 21:16.36 | warcques | Any of you guys ever try APTonCD ? I tried to use it to get stuff after a fresh install and seemed like it had lots of runtime dependencies that weren't taken care of by the primary pack mananger. |
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| 21:17.13 | warcques | gen200: you mean XFCE ? |
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| 21:17.32 | gen200 | warcques: the filemanager xfe |
| 21:18.59 | jaami | vimel, i think i should not worry about apps nomore and focus on how not to delete or format the partion. atleast data can be saved. |
| 21:19.45 | warcques | gen200: http://pastebin.com/AdqqjKP1 it does seem to want to install a lot of stuff |
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| 21:19.49 | vimel | jaami: yep just use a live linux usb, mount your partition and back up your data to an external drive. |
| 21:20.19 | kyle__ | zykotick9: Ah ok. Do you know where the documentation is for what it's used for, and if it's considered safe to use it for home-grown or third-party backup systems? |
| 21:20.53 | zykotick9 | kyle__: sorry, i don't have any further info for ya. best of luck! |
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| 21:21.16 | kyle__ | zykotick9: That's ok. Thank you. You got me on the right track. |
| 21:21.25 | jaami | vimel, i think after getting live usb ready i will get rid of windows partion instead |
| 21:22.04 | jaami | actually i have limited space on external drive |
| 21:22.07 | vimel | jaami: that works :D |
| 21:22.17 | jaami | so nice of you |
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| 21:22.25 | jaami | vimel, |
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| 21:24.43 | gen200 | warcques: yes.. it comes with lot of thing..i just tried install on my gentoo box and it took only few files.. no audacious specially |
| 21:24.50 | backnforth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.57 | backnforth | I have the latest version of catalyst |
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| 21:33.09 | jaami | vimel, KDE has advantage over gnome? |
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| 21:33.34 | kyle__ | jaami: Depends on the use cases, but yes. |
| 21:33.56 | abrotman | jaami: it's completely subjective, use what you like |
| 21:33.57 | melt7777 | I installed debian 7.4 amd64 and also the live adm64, both xfce, to a usb, did the persistence setup for the live. both run fine, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade great, but when i dist-upgrade, and reboot, it hands after the pcie enumeration process. any ideas? |
| 21:34.06 | melt7777 | hangs not hands |
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| 21:34.36 | jaami | okay , Thanks |
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| 21:42.30 | nickgaw | Hi, In debian stable can I mount and read and write hfs plus drives? |
| 21:43.06 | centrx | nickgaw, Yes, available from the hfsplus package. |
| 21:43.38 | kyle__ | nickgaw: You need fuse drivers I think, like centrx said, hfsplus package. I seem to recall needing to turn off the journal, but that was probably in a very old release.. |
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| 21:44.47 | nickgaw | drives that were made for a mac osx system. |
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| 21:46.03 | kyle__ | nickgaw: Yup. My boss uses OSX, and used to bring in big external drives with data from time to time. |
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| 21:47.40 | DANtheBEASTman | why do I get 'permission denied' in dirs that I own? |
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| 21:48.01 | xxlately | How can i run a script automatically at boot? |
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| 21:48.55 | FactoryGirl | hi there, newbie question ahead: how can i know if i am using debian testing or stable? |
| 21:49.06 | kyle__ | xxlately: That's what /etc/rc.local is for. |
| 21:49.07 | centrx | FactoryGirl, Generally cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 21:49.40 | centrx | FactoryGirl, That won't tell you if the system has random testing packages installed (Frankendebian) |
| 21:51.01 | xxlately | kyle: can I just add a line in there like ~/Desktop/Folder/Script .. and it will run at boot? |
| 21:51.04 | FactoryGirl | centrx: Oh I see, I guess it's better to check the distro's website then? |
| 21:51.20 | kyle__ | xxlately: It will, but know that it runs it as root. |
| 21:51.43 | xxlately | I think that's ok. Let me give it a try really quick |
| 21:51.44 | centrx | FactoryGirl, How would that tell you what is on your machine? |
| 21:51.52 | FactoryGirl | bcause it's written testing but my packages are sooo old |
| 21:52.10 | kyle__ | xxlately: And it may not have all of your environment, so use explicit paths in the script. |
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| 21:52.36 | centrx | FactoryGirl, Depending on how old they are, make sure that sources.list has the right sources, then upgrade to the latest packages. |
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| 21:52.50 | centrx | FactoryGirl, If they are older than the previous stable release, upgrade to the stable release first. |
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| 21:53.14 | centrx | FactoryGirl, So yes, you could use http://packages.debian.org/<package name> to see out where a few of your packages are at |
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| 21:53.54 | FactoryGirl | centrx: ok ok, i will try that! thanks a lot centrx ;) |
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| 21:57.58 | DANtheBEASTman | plz respond. I'm so sick of having to sudo ls. i also have this issue on a machine I don't have sudo to, which makes it doubly annoying because I can't access the files |
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| 21:58.28 | xxlately | kyle: that didn't seem to work. |
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| 21:59.32 | eean | DANtheBEASTman: doesn't sound like you have x on the directory |
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| 22:00.50 | eean | it's not enough to own a directory |
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| 22:01.56 | vimel | jaami: ya sorry i was afk. i have been all over the place with DEs and have found a liking to xfce. but like said previously, its all a matter of preference. |
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| 22:03.24 | jaami | vimel, i decided to use gnome again. downloading it |
| 22:03.35 | jaami | vimel, thab |
| 22:03.43 | jaami | vimel, thanks |
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| 22:04.23 | vimel | jaami: np. |
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| 22:06.54 | ruukasu | what exactly is deb-src? |
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| 22:08.18 | aberrant | hi all |
| 22:08.29 | eean | ruukasu: has the deb source packages, useful for installing build dependencies |
| 22:08.53 | aberrant | are there any good basic guides on how to create (private) deb packages that consist of C code / header files? |
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| 22:09.23 | ruukasu | eean, as in packages built from source on the computer it's to be installed on? |
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| 22:10.13 | eean | ruukasu: yea you can do that |
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| 22:10.48 | centrx | dpkg: tell aberrant about nmg |
| 22:10.49 | tremon | ruukasu: it's the other way around, deb-src provides the sources for the packages in your debian installation |
| 22:10.55 | eean | source packages provide the exact source for the corresponding binary package. so its mostly about GPL compliance. then its useful for this and that :) |
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| 22:11.34 | aberrant | very nice. Thanks, centrx |
| 22:11.46 | ruukasu | so deb-src only exists for legal reasons? |
| 22:11.58 | tremon | no |
| 22:12.00 | eean | no |
| 22:12.12 | eean | apt-get build-dep is why I use it |
| 22:12.26 | centrx | ruukasu, It contains the source code, which is useful for developers. |
| 22:12.43 | ruukasu | centrx, like portage? |
| 22:12.53 | ruukasu | or is it not meant to be compiled? |
| 22:13.00 | centrx | ruukasu, That is a fair analogy |
| 22:13.24 | eean | yea you can see debian source packages as an ebuild + the source tarball :) |
| 22:13.24 | centrx | ruukasu, The packages in deb-src are ready to be compiled and can be compiled automatically |
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| 22:20.05 | aberrant | man |
| 22:20.10 | aberrant | creating packages is really complex. |
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| 22:22.43 | centrx | aberrant, You can use checkinstall |
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| 22:23.42 | aberrant | centrx: I really need to learn how to make them myself, I think |
| 22:23.57 | aberrant | I'm here: https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging |
| 22:24.08 | eean | I use cpack :) |
| 22:25.44 | centrx | aberrant, Does not look that complicated :) |
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| 22:26.00 | aberrant | centrx: well, it is :) lots of steps. |
| 22:26.12 | eean | try making an RPM |
| 22:26.19 | eean | ...and you'll find that yes, .deb is really complex |
| 22:26.22 | eean | ;) |
| 22:26.46 | TJ- | aberrant: Start with a simple test application (single C and H files), create the package (debian/control debian/changelog, debian/rules, debian/install, ...) and then build up from there. It's much easier to learn it if you build on the basics step-by-step than try to suddenly figure it all out for an already complex 'upstream' source |
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| 22:27.28 | aberrant | TJ-: good advice. I have a semi-urgent need to package up a specific app now, though. :( |
| 22:28.02 | TJ- | aberrant: From my experience, you'll still save time (and stress!) by doing a step-by-step |
| 22:28.22 | aberrant | TJ-: yeah. I'll do a hello.c to start, then jump in. |
| 22:29.31 | TJ- | aberrant: Also have a simple configure and Makefile, because the debian-helpers (dh) that you can call upon from debian/rules automate the build entirely |
| 22:30.12 | aberrant | the makefile isn't simple, but it "works" |
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| 22:38.50 | aberrant | TJ-: silly question, but why does the package require the upstream tarball AND the extracted tarball? |
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| 22:43.55 | TJ- | All changes (version bumps) are recorded as a diff tarball, which applies on top of the upstream package's tarball, so that the upstream package as received remains pristine |
| 22:44.08 | MrMonkey31 | should I have a weird feeling about the fact that man fsck does not contain any reference to "sector" or "block"? is there a diff. command I should be using to scan my clunker disks? |
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| 22:44.58 | tremon | MrMonkey31: have you tried man fsck.$fstype ? |
| 22:45.11 | TJ- | Most packages now use quilt for managing patches of the upstream, so the diff tarball will contain the debian packaging (which contains the patches) that are applied when using dpkg-source -x , for example |
| 22:45.28 | tremon | MrMonkey31: fsck is only a frontend that detects the filesystem type and then spawns the "real" fs checker |
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| 22:46.48 | MrMonkey31 | tremon: oh thanks. my brain wouldn't make the connect. maybe I should scan this next! |
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| 22:47.34 | tremon | remember, bad blocks have a tendency to replicate fast once they start occurring |
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| 23:07.37 | Kdworak84 | Hey guys, I have network configuration problems after a night of playing with VBox VMs |
| 23:07.53 | Kdworak84 | I might have deleted something in the /etc/udev/rules.d/ dir |
| 23:08.03 | Kdworak84 | because its empty except for one file now |
| 23:08.33 | Kdworak84 | Upon bootup I get a message on the gui saying waiting for network configuration then it boots fine but doesnt see wifi |
| 23:08.40 | Kdworak84 | anyone? |
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| 23:12.21 | tremon | Kdworak84: if you deleted /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, your network device may have been renamed. But a new file should have been generated automatically, edit it and make sure that the NAME= parameter still agrees with the interface name in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:12.58 | tremon | disclaimer: I don't know how much of the above applies to wireless devices |
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| 23:14.13 | Kdworak84 | tremon: yup im wireless |
| 23:14.22 | Kdworak84 | but i will try and return with results |
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| 23:20.10 | Kdworak84 | tremon: the files matchup |
| 23:20.47 | Kdworak84 | i connected to a wired connection and the lights on the card are flickering green but ubuntu doesnt see it |
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| 23:25.08 | de-e--- | I didn't check off printing service on install... any clue what packages i need? |
| 23:25.43 | Mousey | cups |
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| 23:25.54 | mtn | de-e---: you can run tasksel in terminal |
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| 23:26.19 | de-e--- | thanks! |
| 23:26.19 | de-e--- | =] |
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| 23:29.11 | JamesMoriarty | :-) |
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| 23:34.23 | nitefall | I have a physical disk, with an LVM partition on it. I don't know what filesystem is on the partition. How do I find out? |
| 23:35.13 | frostschutz | file -s -L /dev/mapper/vg-lv? |
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| 23:36.26 | nitefall | excellent... thanks you frostschutz |
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