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| 00:02.26 | lo_o| | the power pins look messed to me a bit |
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| 00:02.35 | lo_o| | on the psu to ssh |
| 00:02.39 | lo_o| | ssd |
| 00:03.24 | lo_o| | maybe that was the whole issue |
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| 00:03.54 | lo_o| | coz now its bak to normal |
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| 00:39.58 | petn-randall | !enter |
| 00:39.58 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 00:40.24 | petn-randall | Oh well, they both left ... :/ |
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| 00:45.02 | eb0t | when i run ...........sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sdb where are the results |
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| 00:45.14 | eb0t | all i got was test will complete in 54 minutes |
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| 00:47.35 | earthian | hello. which package contains apache2 mod_ssl? |
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| 00:48.38 | earthian | i accidentally removed the /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.* and now I am unable to restore it by reinstalling half of the packages... i am on a brink to do a --purge reinstall on everything now and waste another hour reconfiguring :( |
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| 00:49.36 | centrx | earthian, dpkg -S /etc/apache2/mods-available |
| 00:49.48 | earthian | oh thanks! |
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| 00:51.30 | earthian | ok.. so it's purge then. :'( |
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| 00:53.07 | toosexy | umm |
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| 00:53.20 | toosexy | is there a live cd for debian |
| 00:53.41 | centrx | toosexy, What did Google say? |
| 00:53.42 | toosexy | i tried wat suposed to be live |
| 00:53.52 | toosexy | on debian org but its not live |
| 00:54.00 | toosexy | it just boots into the instaler |
| 00:54.32 | centrx | Where did you download it from? |
| 00:54.34 | earthian | no there is no live installer afaik |
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| 00:54.53 | earthian | not official anyway |
| 00:55.10 | toosexy | wats the smallest live thing i can install |
| 00:55.14 | toosexy | and where |
| 00:55.48 | toosexy | usually i use http://live.debian.net/ |
| 00:55.54 | toosexy | this works good |
| 00:56.19 | toosexy | but whats the smallest one i can dl |
| 00:56.28 | toosexy | to do grub stuff |
| 00:56.37 | brackbrat | I'm trying to figure out how to access my samsung galaxy s3 under wheezy, can anyone help me out? I have mtp-tools and mtpfs installed, but mtp-detech says "No raw devices found", lsusb doesn't seem to detech the phone, and nothing under dmesg either. Any ideas? |
| 00:56.45 | tharkun | !tell toosexy about enter |
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| 00:57.27 | earthian | brackbrat, the phone is not talking to the PC. check the settings on the phone - enable USB or smth.. |
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| 00:58.03 | earthian | What is the best way to migrate server from one hardware to another and from squeeze to jessie? |
| 00:58.28 | tharkun | !tell earthian aptitude clone |
| 00:58.37 | earthian | thanks! |
| 00:58.48 | tharkun | !tell earthian about aptitude clone |
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| 00:59.38 | tharkun | earthian: If you are upgrading things get trickier since you need to know which packages have changed names like dovecot, postgresql and some others. |
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| 01:03.07 | earthian | tharkun, i have noticed that already.. thats why I was asking. I am lost with half baked system now which neither works, or does not work... |
| 01:03.21 | earthian | and I am not sure where the start or the end of this job now.. |
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| 01:06.07 | tharkun | earthian: sorry to hear about that. You need to manually check what tasks you had on your squeeze machine to be able to install them on your jessie machine. It won't be pretty but you will get to the point where you have a working machine. |
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| 01:06.38 | earthian | yes.. I think I want to reinstall wheezy now. jessie is no good. |
| 01:07.05 | earthian | I am starting to see "sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory" messages on the screen a lot now... |
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| 01:07.14 | LoneStar99 | howdy! |
| 01:07.14 | earthian | so things are broken :D |
| 01:07.20 | tharkun | earthian: testing is not for the noobs, you need to know your way around pretty damn well to fix some isues that rise |
| 01:07.36 | earthian | I am not a noob.. just too lazy :D |
| 01:07.42 | LoneStar99 | how would I add extra space to my "/disk2" partition? --> http://pastebin.com/uDNVjSH5 |
| 01:07.51 | r0mika | hi, if a have a network adapter (eth0) and replace it with another, udev assigns the new one to eth1. i managed to reset this so when i install a new adapter it gives eth0 again. the problem that i have is with a pci video adapter same thing, only that i don't know how to make udev assign it to card0 instead of card1 like it does now. anybody has an ideea pls how to manage this pls? |
| 01:07.55 | tharkun | earthian: Guessed that part ;P |
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| 01:13.40 | r0mika | nobody? :( |
| 01:14.45 | dvs | r0mika: gotta make some udev rules for it probably. |
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| 01:16.21 | hfp | I keep getting this error http://i.imgur.com/u1bOARI.png using a preseed to install Debian. I use this preseed: http://www.pro.instalinux.com/download/preseed16428.txt. I just want Debian to install unattended and start sshd so I can access the laptop. It has a broken screen and won't display the installer on an external monitor. |
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| 01:23.43 | hfp | Anyone knows how to fix it or what's wrong with my preseed? |
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| 01:24.38 | phy1729 | What's the difference between libpam-ldap and libpam-ldapd ? |
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| 01:31.12 | Carlitos__ | hi all |
| 01:32.56 | tharkun | earthian: part of the problem might be systemd beeing something mandatory on jessie. |
| 01:33.03 | tharkun | Carlitos__: Hi |
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| 01:34.49 | Carlitos__ | tharkun: hi :d |
| 01:35.33 | Carlitos__ | please please any help with a partition ? http://paste.debian.net/84688/ |
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| 01:36.00 | Carlitos__ | Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table ? do I have to get a partition right? |
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| 01:36.37 | tharkun | Carlitos__: What is your problem? You can't boot? |
| 01:36.54 | Carlitos__ | tharkun: it can boot ok |
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| 01:37.43 | tharkun | So? if fdisk can find what type of partition you are using then live with it. |
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| 01:39.23 | tharkun | Carlitos__: If nothing is broken and you are scared of the output of fdisk then don't run it. |
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| 01:39.58 | Carlitos__ | :d |
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| 01:41.05 | Carlitos__ | what do you think about this? http://paste.debian.net/84689/ ? |
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| 01:42.05 | tharkun | Carlitos__: As expected, you've got yourself a nice raid array. ;P |
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| 01:43.29 | tharkun | Carlitos__: Since you allready have raid, you could have also installed lvm. |
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| 01:44.05 | tharkun | Resizing partitions makes it extremely easy. |
| 01:45.19 | monkwitdafunk | hi debian channel. lets say i can clear data reminence using dban.bzi, if i do a clean install with the hopes of having a lot of free, unallocated space, how can i do that using the channels installation steps? |
| 01:46.05 | monkwitdafunk | is installing a recycled pci gigabit NIC |
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| 01:52.24 | RobertLabrie | I had to skip the source selection during install because my VM network wasn't ready. Now I need to configure it. Yes, I can just copy the contents of a working sources.list, but is there a way to re-run the curses source list tool and autoconfigure my sources.list? |
| 01:52.39 | RobertLabrie | Googling this fairly straightfoward item has not yielded results :( |
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| 01:55.26 | monkwitdafunk | are you using KVM RobertLabrie ? |
| 01:56.23 | RobertLabrie | monkwitdafunk, nah, I installed in Hyper-V and didn't do the legacy NIC thing so I just skipped networking and finished the install of the base system off the small ISO |
| 01:56.35 | monkwitdafunk | lxc is not mentioned in the book i have. the book mentions KVM, hyper-v, qemu, uml, virtualbox, vmware and xen |
| 01:57.03 | RobertLabrie | monkwitdafunk, the installer has a nice curses menu for selecting sources, but is that the one and only time you can run it? seems a bit crazy |
| 01:57.54 | monkwitdafunk | a bit crazy if you use dban.bzi over and over after each mistake. that can be a perfectionists learning track |
| 01:58.23 | monkwitdafunk | is hyper-v part of the debian repositories? |
| 01:58.48 | RobertLabrie | monkwitdafunk, huh? no .... |
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| 02:01.19 | RobertLabrie | nm, the installer left the net sources commented in the list so I just uncommented them |
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| 02:05.07 | ddb | hello, noob here! considering a shift from ubuntu to debian, and i am missing things i got used to (like .bashrc, automount CD's, etc.) Do i have to setup all those things manually (i.e. configure the whole system)? Or is there a suggested/supported starting point? |
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| 02:05.43 | centrx | ddb, You should have .bashrc ... |
| 02:05.51 | tharkun | !tell Carlitos__ about es |
| 02:05.54 | monkwitdafunk | hyper-v would be great for my 2012 HP laptop. it can use more performance or i can use knoppix-dvd the live debian distro |
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| 02:06.22 | RobertLabrie | monkwitdafunk, you're running server 2k12 on your laptop? |
| 02:06.45 | monkwitdafunk | no. 2012 as in the very last of the BIOS systems |
| 02:06.57 | dvs | monkwitdafunk: debian has a live version |
| 02:07.12 | centrx | ddb, For automounting, install autofs |
| 02:07.21 | monkwitdafunk | yeah. i know. you need maybe 5-8 gb ram for 64bit knoppix |
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| 02:07.49 | RobertLabrie | monkwitdafunk, I run server 2k12 R2 on my ghetto laptop (some old assed dell). Installing Wheezy now. Here is an ok guide: https://wiki.debian.org/WindowsServerHyperV |
| 02:08.04 | monkwitdafunk | ok. cool. |
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| 02:10.38 | monkwitdafunk | RobertLabrie, so you have an old school microsoft server eh |
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| 02:11.21 | monkwitdafunk | i took one step into using virtualbox and it did not work well for me because i abandoned my efforts |
| 02:11.43 | monkwitdafunk | i spent one day on it |
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| 02:12.27 | undeaddragon | I have a really old computer and I need a good distro or desktop environment |
| 02:12.42 | undeaddragon | Any recommendations? |
| 02:12.56 | writing_novel | Anyone here able to answer some questions about Jessie? |
| 02:13.05 | dvs | undeaddragon: hmmm.... I wonder what people will say here..... |
| 02:13.06 | RobertLabrie | monkwitdafunk, 2k12 R2 was RTM in Oct 2013, it's literally the latest version of MS Windows ... not what I would call old school |
| 02:13.13 | RobertLabrie | VBox is fine too |
| 02:13.20 | monkwitdafunk | i have 8.1 pro |
| 02:14.12 | vimel | undeaddragon: i would recommend debian with xfce |
| 02:14.26 | writing_novel | I installed Debian Jessie with the standard sources.list |
| 02:14.29 | undeaddragon | vimel: Okay |
| 02:14.41 | writing_novel | I however need to add the repos that will give most of what I can get with Wheezy |
| 02:14.42 | vimel | i have debian with xfce running on a single core p4 2.2ghz with 2gb of ram and it runs fine. |
| 02:14.48 | writing_novel | any recommendations on what repos to add? |
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| 02:15.03 | monkwitdafunk | i do not know what 2k12 is |
| 02:15.06 | vimel | undeaddragon: fine as in not slow but not fast. fast enough to load apps and view youtube vids in fullscreen. |
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| 02:16.05 | vimel | undeaddragon: you could run your your tmpfs in ram at boot by adding it to /etc/fstab which boost some performance. |
| 02:16.16 | monkwitdafunk | for sandboxing and virtual machines. i hope linux can mature to be as famous as bsd jails and iOS userspace |
| 02:16.31 | undeaddragon | Okay |
| 02:16.58 | writing_novel | any recommendations on what repos to add? |
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| 02:18.17 | undeaddragon | What packages are included in the debian standard install? |
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| 02:18.50 | RobertLabrie | undeaddragon, during the install there are some profiles you can select from. one of them is desktop. it does everything |
| 02:19.03 | undeaddragon | Okay |
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| 02:19.23 | undeaddragon | Does that mean I could use TWM as my desktop environment? |
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| 02:19.57 | centrx | undeaddragon, Yes, but if you are going to use twm, don't select the Desktop option in the installer, that will install Gnome and a bunch of stuff |
| 02:20.15 | centrx | undeaddragon, apt-get install twm and xserver-xorg-core after the install finishes. |
| 02:20.20 | roothorick | on a machine that was upgraded from squeezy to wheezy a while ago, is there an easy way to find packages that aren't provided anymore or otherwise are still around from squeeze? |
| 02:20.31 | roothorick | lol "squeezy to wheezy" |
| 02:20.52 | centrx | roothorick, dselect and probably aptitude will categorize those as "Obsolete/local" packages. |
| 02:20.56 | undeaddragon | Does it have a setup step that lets me connect to a wireless network? |
| 02:21.02 | brackbrat | Anyone have experience accessing a samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.3 from debian wheezy? I've turned out USB debugging on the phone, but when I plug in the phone nothing shows up under dmesg or lsusb, and mtp-detect says "No raw devices found." |
| 02:21.04 | undeaddragon | I don't have ethernet |
| 02:21.05 | centrx | roothorick, Assuming squeeze sources have been removed from your sources.list |
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| 02:21.55 | centrx | undeaddragon, Yes, you should check ahead of time if your wireless card has free drivers or if you need to use firmware-linux-nonfree. I am not sure who it works in the installer. |
| 02:22.13 | centrx | brackbrat, I use gmtp. It works well |
| 02:22.18 | undeaddragon | Okay |
| 02:22.42 | centrx | brackbrat, You also may need to be "logged in" to the phone at the time, with the screen on and your pattern/password having been entered |
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| 02:24.39 | brackbrat | centrx: gmtp as well tells me "No raw devices found." All I've done is install it using apt-get, run gmtp, then click connect, though. The man page for gmtp is rather sparse. |
| 02:25.19 | centrx | brackbrat, Also it's not USB debugging you need to turn on, it's "Media Device (MTP)" |
| 02:25.24 | brackbrat | I really feel like I should see something under dmesg when I connect the phone via usb... :\ |
| 02:25.45 | brackbrat | centrx: do you have the same phone (galaxy s3) & android version (4.3)? I haven't been able to locate that option |
| 02:26.28 | centrx | brackbrat, No, you might have different Settings |
| 02:26.48 | centrx | brackbrat, Or rather, you may have to find the same setting a different way |
| 02:26.51 | centrx | brackbrat, It's not USB debugging |
| 02:28.02 | centrx | "USB computer connection" |
| 02:28.11 | centrx | Search online |
| 02:28.49 | undeaddragon | I can't find a debian standard iso on mirror.internode.on.net/pub |
| 02:30.06 | dvs | why must it be on internode.on.net? |
| 02:30.20 | undeaddragon | Because I have limited bandwidth |
| 02:30.24 | FallenSky | . |
| 02:30.32 | undeaddragon | I does not come as metered if it is from internode |
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| 02:32.03 | dvs | undeaddragon: http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 02:32.38 | undeaddragon | This pc is i386 |
| 02:32.46 | undeaddragon | Which is sad |
| 02:33.19 | undeaddragon | There is nothing in /pub/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd |
| 02:34.12 | centrx | Use net install if you have limited bandwidth |
| 02:34.17 | dvs | you're SOL then |
| 02:35.00 | undeaddragon | Before my current distrobution, I was running FreeBSD |
| 02:35.21 | vimel | undeaddragon: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso |
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| 02:37.19 | undeaddragon | Okay |
| 02:37.29 | dvs | I wouldn't get that one. |
| 02:37.38 | FallenSky | im fairly new to debian (and linux in general). i just completed a net install. how do i get my sound to work? could someone point me in the right direction? |
| 02:37.41 | naper_c | hello |
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| 02:38.32 | dvs | !tell FallenSky about alsa checklist |
| 02:39.13 | vimel | FallenSky: install pulseaudio with apt-get install pulseaudio, then install pavucontrol with apt-get install pavucontrol, once you get to your desktop press ALT+ F2 and type pavucontrol. ensure your audio is not muted. |
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| 02:39.37 | FallenSky | thank you very much!!! |
| 02:39.43 | undeaddragon | Would this work? - http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 02:40.11 | dvs | undeaddragon: debian-7.4.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 02:40.20 | vimel | FallenSky: you can also check alsamixer by running alsamixer command in terminal. |
| 02:40.23 | vimel | FallenSky: np |
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| 02:42.36 | LoneStar99 | when I execute -> # ls blk -> xvdb 202:16 0 100G 0 disk /disk2 |
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| 02:43.21 | LoneStar99 | but when I do -> # df -l -> /dev/xvdb 30963708 181100 29209744 1% /disk2 |
| 02:43.27 | centrx | lsblk |
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| 02:44.19 | LoneStar99 | centrx: why is there a size difference? |
| 02:44.41 | LoneStar99 | lsblk 100GB and df -l 30GB ... |
| 02:45.12 | centrx | Probably something to do with xvdb being some kind of special device |
| 02:46.09 | LoneStar99 | centrx: so if df -l states 30GB will it continue writing to fill 100GB capacity? |
| 02:46.57 | centrx | Presumably |
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| 02:47.23 | centrx | A virtual disk has a virtual size and a real size |
| 02:47.34 | centrx | That might be the source of the difference |
| 02:47.52 | LoneStar99 | centrx: it is an attached EBS -> aws ec2 |
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| 03:08.39 | ceboya | Hi all, does anyone know a pdf editor for linux that allows annotations? |
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| 03:12.20 | tp43_ | I am using VIM, and everytime I load my file, it gives me a swp file error message |
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| 03:13.13 | ceboya | i am using cinnamon btw kde options are not useful |
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| 03:14.48 | centrx | ceboya, Since when is cinnamon in Debian? |
| 03:17.26 | ceboya | centrx: linux mint LMDE is what mixed both |
| 03:19.19 | ceboya | it says everywhere that evince does so, but no i have found no options that allows me so far |
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| 03:20.30 | themill | you'd want to talk to the mint people about that then. Try #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. |
| 03:21.14 | tp43_ | basically with gvim, do not use the X in the window bar |
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| 03:22.29 | ceboya | ok thanks very much themill |
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| 03:22.48 | ab64cm | centrx, it's in experimental, also |
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| 03:23.49 | LoneStar99 | centrx: fixed it ran the following -> # resize2fs /dev/xvdb |
| 03:24.25 | LoneStar99 | that was all =) |
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| 03:34.00 | Woet | This is creating pretty annoying, why does the server randomly not assign the IPv6 address I have in /etc/network/interfaces? http://pastie.org/private/um39gtdh8od3uprckmjdw |
| 03:34.52 | Woet | and if I just reboot a few times it comes back. |
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| 03:58.44 | Dagger | Woet: fucking OVH |
| 03:58.50 | Woet | Dagger: agreed. |
| 03:59.02 | Dagger | also OVH's bizarro setup would normally have xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:43FF:FF:FF:FF:FF as the router for that IP, rather than 41 |
| 03:59.20 | Woet | Dagger: really? that might explain why IPv6 dies after 10 minutes |
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| 03:59.38 | Woet | wish they would have a sane network setup |
| 03:59.52 | Dagger | (you could also, assuming 43 is right, just set "netmask 56" and then use "gateway xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:43ff:ff:ff:ff:ff" rather than the up/down lines) |
| 04:00.18 | Woet | they specifically told me to use those liens |
| 04:00.23 | Woet | so i stuck with those so i could blame them when it broke |
| 04:00.53 | Dagger | they're actually telling people to use them :( |
| 04:02.06 | Dagger | you'd think, at the point where they're telling customers to do that, that someone there would realize they fucked their network up... but no |
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| 04:31.56 | Skaag | what's the modern way of doing vpn in debian? (freeswan style) |
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| 04:43.25 | anonnumberanon | Lol Debian wouldn't boot after I changed the bios time. |
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| 04:46.38 | fas3r | hello |
| 04:47.05 | fas3r | currently I reduce my array /dev/md5 from 700G to 100G, but now, I would like to reduce the partition, is it possible ? can I resize the partition (sda/sdb) inside my RAID1 Array? |
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| 04:48.34 | AlexLikeRock | hi |
| 04:48.38 | AlexLikeRock | i need help |
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| 04:48.55 | bullgard4 | !ask |
| 04:48.55 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 04:49.00 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:49.16 | AlexLikeRock | then i can not view noting :( |
| 04:49.20 | fas3r | bullgard4: I asked, but no answer :P |
| 04:50.15 | AlexLikeRock | how to change by terminal ? |
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| 04:57.36 | AlexLikeRock | help |
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| 05:05.40 | FuuuqUmiist | so does Debian support Firefox's Extended Support Release? |
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| 05:08.11 | babilen | dpkg: tell FuuuqUmiist -about iceweasel |
| 05:08.24 | babilen | FuuuqUmiist: Also take a look at http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 05:08.30 | babilen | judd: v iceweasel |
| 05:08.31 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 17.0.10esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 24.3.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 24.3.0esr-1; sid: 24.3.0esr-1; experimental: 27.0.1-1 |
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| 05:08.47 | babilen | FuuuqUmiist: As you can see ^^^ many esr releases |
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| 05:16.49 | Yukiteru | nouvuea + nvidia 6150se + wheezy = tearing T__T help me!! |
| 05:17.27 | Yukiteru | nouveau + nvidia 6150se + testing jessie = freeze all system :/ |
| 05:17.53 | Yukiteru | i have very very bad lucky :( |
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| 05:24.30 | Yukiteru | T__T |
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| 05:25.27 | babilen | Yukiteru: You might want to try the nvidia driver rather than whine in here (cf. https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ) -- Or take it to #nouveau for specific questions |
| 05:25.59 | babilen | Yukiteru: Either way, extensive log files would be needed in case of problems |
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| 05:28.17 | mdel | im surprsed there's a channel for #nouveau |
| 05:28.42 | haridas | Hi, I'm trying to make the synaptic touch pad work correctly ( No double finger scroll).. On the Xorg.0.log, I can't find the driver "synaptics_drv.so" getting loaded ? instead "evdev_drv.so" is loading.. How can I load the "synaptic_drv.so" also ? |
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| 05:30.53 | haridas | Or please direct me to, where can i get help... |
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| 05:34.25 | babilen | mdel: There is, it is called "#nouveau" |
| 05:35.10 | babilen | Ah, you are surprised that they have a channel -- no idea why, but I assumed you said "no channel for .." |
| 05:36.00 | mdel | babilen: maybe I'm naive, I just didn't think anyone used it :) |
| 05:36.23 | mdel | unless it exists for support on how to remove it and switch to the proprietary drivers |
| 05:37.31 | babilen | haridas: See https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad and create a suitable /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/25-synaptics.conf and read the synaptics manpage for options |
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| 05:38.39 | babilen | mdel: It doesn't, there is nothing wrong with free drivers and nouveau came a *long* way already. I prefer radeon over fglrx, but would agree that the proprietary nvidia drivers seem to still be needed in some cases. |
| 05:40.15 | mdel | no arguments there, it's definitely come a long way |
| 05:40.25 | haridas | babilen: I tried those things... I created 10-synaptics.conf, and second time tried 50-synaptics.conf.. and put the settings I got from internet... still it looks like, it's not respecting what settings I'm adding on these files instead picking default system configurations... |
| 05:40.42 | Yukiteru | mdel: this channel is for debian and this problem is a debian bug |
| 05:40.45 | babilen | haridas: It is a bit surprising that the driver isn't loading though, but I won't be the one to look at your log in detail as it is way too early for that :) |
| 05:41.10 | babilen | Yukiteru: How so? |
| 05:41.16 | Yukiteru | this bug in archlinux and sabayon isn't present |
| 05:41.34 | babilen | Yukiteru: Are you using the same kernel and Xorg stack on all three? |
| 05:41.57 | mdel | same kernel, same xorg, same dependencies for all of that... |
| 05:42.04 | Yukiteru | babilen: i'm using nouveau and kernel stable but i have tearing |
| 05:42.41 | Yukiteru | the options GLXVblank and EXAVsync is active but not working |
| 05:43.02 | haridas | babilen: No problem... Is there any problem with the kernel support ? mine is debian sid "Linux debian 3.10-3-amd64" |
| 05:43.08 | babilen | Yukiteru: Is it the same kernel? Have you tried the backported kernel? What about a newer version of xserver-xorg-video-nouveau? Did you ask the nouveau people which version you need for your card and how does that version compare to the one in Debian wheezy? |
| 05:44.16 | Yukiteru | babilen: yes i do, 3.12 from testing but nouevau freeze the system |
| 05:44.16 | babilen | haridas: That is a severely outdated kernel on debian sid and testing/unstable setups are also explicitly supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net -- I would recommend to upgrade your system much more frequently than you are obviously doing |
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| 05:44.39 | Yukiteru | not video, no response the X, nothing |
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| 05:45.14 | babilen | Yukiteru: You installed the backported kernel or you mixed in packages from testing? What happens if you upgrade the complete system to testing? Which *nouveau* version do you use on the respective systems? |
| 05:45.42 | haridas | babilen: Sure... I will try that.. |
| 05:45.56 | babilen | haridas: You might have forgotten to install a suitable kernel metapackage such as linux-image-amd64 btw |
| 05:45.57 | Yukiteru | babilen: i have installed wheezy and jessie in two machines with nvidia 6150se gpu IGP |
| 05:46.13 | Yukiteru | in wheezy tearing |
| 05:46.18 | babilen | Yukiteru: So, what are the respective versions that you tested? |
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| 05:46.25 | Yukiteru | in jessie freeze the system |
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| 05:47.22 | Yukiteru | in wheezy, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau version 1.0.1-5 |
| 05:47.39 | Yukiteru | in jessie, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau version 1.0.10 |
| 05:47.54 | babilen | Yukiteru: Does the system freeze or just Xorg? (e.g. can you still ssh into the box?) Have you tried some of the procedures outlined in https://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/XserverDebugging ? |
| 05:48.05 | Yukiteru | babilen: all system |
| 05:48.34 | babilen | Yukiteru: What about the systems that you know that work? What did you the guys in #nouveau say about those versions and your card? Could you paste you jessie Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 05:48.39 | Yukiteru | not MagicKeys, no TTY, not logs |
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| 05:50.15 | Yukiteru | babilen: the bugs is reported for jessie but i cant send a new report because xorg.log not show nothing |
| 05:50.39 | anonnumberanon | The clock is not right. It's like the OS is fundamentally flawed. |
| 05:50.58 | Yukiteru | the first report show traces for MMIO |
| 05:51.05 | babilen | Yukiteru: Why didn't you mention the bug number already? What do you want me to do now? |
| 05:51.33 | Yukiteru | ok one moment |
| 05:51.58 | haridas | babilen: I have that meta package... I need to upgrade the kernel to 3.13.1-amd64 to see if that would help. |
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| 05:52.19 | babilen | Yukiteru: I mean you are not sharing important information that would make it much easier to actually help you ... |
| 05:52.59 | babilen | haridas: No, upgrade your whole system. Everything. Apart from RC buggy packages (as warned by apt-listbugs, which you should pin with "p" when asked) -- don't selectively upgrade. |
| 05:53.28 | babilen | haridas: Oh, and take it to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net as testing/unstable are supported there |
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| 05:55.19 | haridas | babilen: Ok.. Cool.. |
| 05:55.26 | Yukiteru | babilen: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=726722 |
| 05:55.28 | Yukiteru | one |
| 05:56.20 | Yukiteru | babilen: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671172 two, in this case no trace and logs |
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| 05:57.05 | Yukiteru | and othes bugs reported for firefox but with driver nouveau and nvidia 6150se gpu igp |
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| 05:57.49 | haridas | babilen: Thanks man :) |
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| 05:58.46 | Yukiteru | with firefox in arch but now it's fixed http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-nouveau-on-fresh-current-install-freezes-system-4175455844/ |
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| 06:00.04 | babilen | Yukiteru: And you thought starting all this with "nouvuea + nvidia 6150se + wheezy = tearing T__T help me!!" was a good idea ? :D |
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| 06:02.22 | Yukiteru | babilen: not i know, i need ideas for fix this problem |
| 06:03.05 | Yukiteru | i think compile the nouveau git but driver in jessie is up-to-date |
| 06:03.59 | Yukiteru | and the kernel 3.13 from experimental the bug is present too |
| 06:04.20 | babilen | Yukiteru: Seriously, I could have spent the last 30 minutes looking at those bug reports rather than trying to get information out of you if only you'd asked "I am running into #726722 and I am using a GPU graphic card ..." |
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| 06:05.55 | babilen | Yukiteru: I'd take it up with #nouveau still as they should be in the best position to debug this. Otherwise get a stackdump by following the instructions on the debian wiki for xserver debugging I mentioned earlier. And for you too: testing/unstable are support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net -- I'll have breakfast now, until later! |
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| 06:07.54 | Yukiteru | babilen: my unique intention is obtaing ideas for fix these bugs nothing more |
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| 06:09.27 | Yukiteru | one pic of the machine running jessie http://imagebin.org/296441 |
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| 06:10.53 | Yukiteru | babilen: i follow your recommendation i going to #nouveau but tomorrow, now in my country it's time to sleep 2 am |
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| 06:11.59 | lautriv | i tried all old and new versions of autostarting mdraid and failed with recent kernels, is there any bug known ? |
| 06:12.42 | Guest86007 | Hi new to Debian and linux and was trying to run debian stable. I was attempting to use filezilla 3.7.3-1 by using a backports but from my inexperience I'm unsure if it's not there or I just can't find it. Can some confirm? |
| 06:12.45 | Yukiteru | babilen: thanks you for all and i'm not a novice only that my english is very bad |
| 06:14.16 | Yukiteru | Guest86007: filezilla in wheezy is 3.5.3-2 version i have the backports active |
| 06:14.16 | centrx | Guest86007, It's not in backports, but it is in stable. |
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| 06:14.46 | Guest86007 | Thanks centrx when I looked in stable the newest I found was 3.5? |
| 06:15.05 | centrx | Yes |
| 06:15.14 | Yukiteru | Guest86007: exactly |
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| 06:15.57 | Yukiteru | but filezilla in stable works excellent :D |
| 06:16.03 | Guest86007 | the problem is 3.5 seems to have an upload bug that is fixed in 3.7 that's why I"m trying to get 3.7. Does this mean I would have to work on backporting the app? |
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| 06:16.39 | Guest86007 | This is what I'm referring to https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25821&sid=9673d269000e0e7a6aa7389fab9fbb64&start=15 |
| 06:17.06 | Guest86007 | I can download from FTPS sites just fine but when I attempt to upload I get constant disconnects and reconnects |
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| 06:21.07 | Yukiteru | Guest86007: install filezilla from jessie |
| 06:21.52 | centrx | dpkg: tell Guest86007 about ssb |
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| 06:22.12 | Yukiteru | Guest86007: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/filezilla-common |
| 06:22.29 | Yukiteru | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/filezilla |
| 06:22.50 | Yukiteru | download manually this packages and install using dpkg -i |
| 06:23.10 | centrx | Yukiteru, That's really a bad idea |
| 06:23.24 | Guest86007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.44 | Guest86007 | I thought backports was the recommended way |
| 06:23.50 | Yukiteru | centrx: mmm not really i can see the packages dependencies for wheezy and jessie |
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| 06:24.26 | centrx | Yukiteru, Look harder. dep: libc6 (>= 2.15) |
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| 06:25.18 | centrx | Guest86007, Try the build in the message sent my dpkg |
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| 06:25.25 | nkn__ | Hello guys, I have a question about debian packaging. Is this the right place for that kind of questions? |
| 06:25.44 | centrx | nkn__, Sure, give it a shot |
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| 06:26.03 | nkn__ | centrx, cool. thanks |
| 06:26.41 | Guest86007 | Thanks reading centrx |
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| 06:27.09 | Yukiteru | centrx: yes i can see this problem sorry |
| 06:27.50 | Yukiteru | i'm exhausted compiling firefox os master and 1.3 |
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| 06:28.07 | centrx | That should be about 4GB |
| 06:28.20 | Yukiteru | more |
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| 06:28.29 | Yukiteru | 20 gb in total |
| 06:28.43 | Yukiteru | more 4 gb for ccache |
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| 06:29.15 | nkn__ | I am trying to package a IBus engine which is used for Indian language input. Now the engine needs some word corpus to be trained before start using it. There will be different corpus for each language. So in debian, IBus engine will be one package, and each language corpus will be different packages, right? The main IBus engine package will have optional dependency on the word corpus packages. Is this the right design? |
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| 06:30.44 | centrx | nkn__, That is probably a good idea, yes. You'll notice that language packages like aspell have different packages for different language. Iceweasel, etc. |
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| 06:39.57 | vimel | i am looking for a google translate alternative offline for debian or maybe just a text to speech app? i have tried espeak, festiva, orca and they are not up to par. i also tried speakit but am not too keen on sharing all my data w the extension in chrome. any recommendations? |
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| 06:47.52 | superlinux-hp | hi. well.. I know and I understand that I am using firefox nightly. however, I don't know why i have to reboot to get http protocol working on my laptop with the outside world. all http stops to work. |
| 06:48.10 | superlinux-hp | it stops all of a sudden. |
| 06:48.31 | superlinux-hp | every all web browsers stop. |
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| 06:49.28 | joj | vimel: no text to speech, but dictd is a featureful dictionary server which has very good English language dictionaries available. There are GUI and CLI clients aplenty. I use the CLI "dict" command: dict -d $database $word | colorit | less -R for searchable, colorized output |
| 06:50.13 | joj | vimel: it also supports various lookup methods from keyword to regex |
| 06:50.25 | vimel | excellent ty |
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| 06:51.08 | vimel | google translate offline is available on android. i imagine it will be available on debian eventually. |
| 06:51.32 | joj | vimel: maybe, considering that Google Japanese Input is already available as mozc_server |
| 06:52.09 | superlinux-hp | would someone help me? pleaaaase.. |
| 06:54.19 | joj | superlinux-hp: maybe if you could rephrase your problem statement to a question? Because according to what you've written so far, your network is working quite fine after you rebooted... |
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| 06:57.38 | babilen | superlinux-hp: Please ask in #mozilla or another channel that supports Firefox. You could, naturally, install iceweasel if you want support here. See http://mozilla.debian.net for other versions. |
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| 06:58.02 | superlinux-hp | babilen, ok thanks |
| 06:58.17 | nkn__ | centrx, thank you so much |
| 06:58.21 | babilen | superlinux-hp: fwiw, iceweasel *is* firefox |
| 06:58.37 | superlinux-hp | i know that. I am already running debian. |
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| 07:00.15 | superlinux-hp | babilen, but my issue is that i have no running firewalls, and suddenly the http with the outside world stops working. locally , i can login to my router's configurations. |
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| 07:01.37 | babilen | superlinux-hp: What does that have to do with FF? And seriously: I strongly recommend the packages from http://mozilla.debian.net as they are well integrated and quite up-to-date |
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| 07:01.50 | babilen | superlinux-hp: Can you resolve hostnames? |
| 07:02.30 | superlinux-hp | yes I can. |
| 07:03.08 | superlinux-hp | babilen, I am using 64bit version of FF. that's why. |
| 07:03.27 | wols | mdn gives you 64bit versions too. as does debian in its repos |
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| 07:04.14 | babilen | superlinux-hp: Can you ping remote hosts? Does, say, "ping www.debian.org" show package loss? |
| 07:04.59 | superlinux-hp | babilen, yes. |
| 07:05.30 | superlinux-hp | some times package lost |
| 07:05.39 | superlinux-hp | that's normal. |
| 07:06.17 | wols | shouldn't be. then try "wget google.com" |
| 07:06.26 | babilen | superlinux-hp: But, generally speaking, it works? |
| 07:06.46 | superlinux-hp | "ping" does work. |
| 07:06.58 | superlinux-hp | it's just http stops everywhere. |
| 07:07.07 | babilen | superlinux-hp: What does "curl -v http://www.debian.org" give you? Does it succeed in retrieving the website? |
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| 07:08.31 | superlinux-hp | babilen, i want to tell you that i now had to reboot to get the http working. I am now in the after reboot state. |
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| 07:09.04 | babilen | superlinux-hp: So there is nothing we could debug now? |
| 07:09.35 | superlinux-hp | nope |
| 07:10.01 | babilen | Well, there you go. Have a nice day and come back once we can actually work on this. |
| 07:10.30 | babilen | Unless you are aware of a method to reproduce the issue in which you should share both that method and the results of the commands so far. |
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| 07:13.25 | superlinux-hp | babilen, I cannot reproduce it because it happens suddenly. |
| 07:13.42 | superlinux-hp | i cannot tell when will happen |
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| 07:14.04 | babilen | superlinux-hp: Okay, then come back and provide information about the result of the commands above once it manifests itself again. |
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| 07:14.54 | superlinux-hp | ok sure babilen thanks brother. |
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| 08:11.57 | Nik05 | ? |
| 08:12.09 | Nik05 | sorry wrong one |
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| 08:14.42 | indieross | id like nemo to replace all the functionality of nautilus, more specifically i want to change the "select destination folder" prompt to use nemo instead of nautilus |
| 08:14.57 | indieross | is there like an xdg-mim setting i can change to do this? |
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| 08:23.32 | no_gravity | Good Morning! When I open a textfile with less and see umlauts like <E4> <FC> and stuff, what can I do to see it right? |
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| 08:32.28 | bullgard4 | no_gravity: Check '~$ locale' first. |
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| 08:34.25 | shingouz | no_gravity: many times -r helps as a quick fix |
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| 08:38.30 | no_gravity | i converted it with iconv now |
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| 08:42.02 | e^0 | what does this means Makefile style concurrent booting at run level S" 16 concurrent threads ? |
| 08:43.12 | superlinux-hp | e^0, look! |
| 08:43.22 | e^0 | superlinux-hp: yes |
| 08:43.24 | superlinux-hp | how many cores is your CPU? |
| 08:43.32 | e^0 | 4 cores |
| 08:44.12 | superlinux-hp | ok.. and with hyperthreding you can run 16 things at the very same time. |
| 08:44.19 | superlinux-hp | this is the 16 threads,, |
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| 08:45.02 | e^0 | superlinux-hp: ok so how can i enable it or have concurrent booting at run level S ? |
| 08:45.21 | superlinux-hp | if you build an app from source and written in C++ programming language, we use a file named Makefile to configure the compiler |
| 08:46.04 | superlinux-hp | you will see the compiler running like 16 times in a hit because of the command "make -j 16" |
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| 08:46.52 | e^0 | superlinux-hp: yeah right |
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| 08:47.15 | superlinux-hp | e^0, that's something already done in the latest debians like from squeeze |
| 08:47.43 | e^0 | superlinux-hp: ok :) |
| 08:48.29 | e^0 | so that speeds up booting right ? |
| 08:49.01 | superlinux-hp | e^0, of course yes! |
| 08:49.14 | e^0 | superlinux-hp: great :) |
| 08:49.20 | superlinux-hp | e^0, |
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| 08:49.35 | e^0 | so as it is default i don't have to do anything right ? |
| 08:49.49 | superlinux-hp | this is how you exactly make benefit of your 4 cores |
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| 08:50.28 | superlinux-hp | whenever there are threads.. whenever you open so many firefox tabs |
| 08:51.02 | superlinux-hp | also whenever you compile your new kernel version. |
| 08:51.26 | superlinux-hp | instead of taking hours to finish, it'll take less than an hour |
| 08:51.55 | superlinux-hp | e^0, check on the topic if there is more you can do |
| 08:52.11 | e^0 | superlinux-hp: this was useful info :) |
| 08:52.17 | yashi | 1: Hi |
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| 08:52.46 | superlinux-hp | e^0, you know when you compress video using "ffmpeg -threads 16" ? |
| 08:53.02 | e^0 | superlinux-hp: hmm |
| 08:53.09 | superlinux-hp | test your CPU using ffmpeg like this: |
| 08:53.44 | superlinux-hp | time ffmpeg -threads 16 -i input.wav output.mp3 |
| 08:53.51 | superlinux-hp | and like this |
| 08:53.56 | superlinux-hp | time ffmpeg -i input.wav output.mp3 |
| 08:54.07 | superlinux-hp | and see the time difference |
| 08:54.12 | e^0 | superlinux-hp: getting your point now :) |
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| 08:55.16 | superlinux-hp | e^0, don't push the threads too hard.. |
| 08:55.20 | superlinux-hp | i mean.. |
| 08:55.55 | superlinux-hp | like in the relieved case you can set it to 8 threads. |
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| 08:56.33 | superlinux-hp | but if you really want to push it to 90ْC you can use the limit= 16 |
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| 09:04.04 | babilen | superlinux-hp: I'd like to introduce you to nproc, please read "man 1 nproc" and try "ffmpeg -threads ${nproc} -i input.wav output.mp3" |
| 09:04.23 | superlinux-hp | babilen, ok |
| 09:04.49 | babilen | superlinux-hp: Err, make that: ffmpeg -threads $(nproc) -i input.wav output.mp3 |
| 09:05.05 | babilen | .oO( too much jinja in the last few days ) |
| 09:05.09 | superlinux-hp | babilen, I don't care! I just push it to the limit! |
| 09:05.11 | superlinux-hp | ☺ |
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| 09:05.46 | babilen | superlinux-hp: The output of nproc *is* the limit. There really is no point in having more concurrent threads than you can execute concurrently |
| 09:05.58 | superlinux-hp | i know. |
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| 09:06.41 | babilen | superlinux-hp: In fact it would probably have a detrimental effect as the communication and synchronisation overhead is taking over. |
| 09:06.42 | superlinux-hp | i have intel i7.. and i can do 16 threads. |
| 09:07.15 | babilen | superlinux-hp: What does nproc give you? |
| 09:07.27 | superlinux-hp | 8 |
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| 09:07.36 | superlinux-hp | nproc=8 |
| 09:07.48 | Sbroker | hi from Spain julandrones anglo hablantes |
| 09:07.51 | superlinux-hp | i know i have 8 |
| 09:08.22 | superlinux-hp | i have to shopping. see ye thanks |
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| 09:29.25 | vadimkolchev | Hi all. Probably a stupid question, but I have to ask it anyway b4 I spoil something)) I currently have two partitions on my win8 installation. I want to resize the second one and to dual boot debian with win8. What is the correct way for doing it?? Thanks in advance |
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| 09:31.24 | babilen | vadimkolchev: You can resize partitions within the Debian partitioning tool or use something like gparted (they also have a live CD) for that. Haven't used Windows in a while and am not sure if you have to "defrag" current NTFS filesystems before you can attempt that, but ##windows should be able to tell you that. |
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| 09:33.00 | vadimkolchev | babilen, I don't have windows on partition I want to resize, that's why don't think there will be any single problem. However not sure about dual-booting, cause I have UEFI mobo and didn't try to dual boot with win 8 yet. I wonder if the win 8 loader will work ok with debian |
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| 09:35.39 | babilen | vadimkolchev: No, the windows loader has never heard of any other operating system and windows typically just overwrites everything else on the system. The standard bootloader that will be installed with debian, grub, does, however, support booting into Windows and EFI just fine (not secure boot iirc) |
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| 09:36.10 | vadimkolchev | babilen, well, i will try this right now then |
| 09:36.14 | vadimkolchev | babilen, thanks |
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| 09:38.03 | babilen | vadimkolchev: If Win8 isn't found make sure that you have the "os-prober" package installed and run "update-grub" -- you should also boot the installer in EFI mode. Not sure if you have to create additional partitions to make Debian work with EFI (efi system partition and bios boot partition) as I always ever used the "guided partitioning" that will use the entire disk (and would therefore replace windows) |
| 09:38.28 | babilen | You might have those already though :-/ |
| 09:38.44 | babilen | Sorry, haven't played with Win8 hardware yet and haven't touched Windows in 13 years |
| 09:40.47 | vadimkolchev | babilen, you are lucky then) I have to deal with windows sometimes) and now got this machine with win8 that is necessary to leave intact |
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| 09:59.30 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 10:01.10 | Agiofws | can anyone tell me any relevant channels for about technology for wifi cams small boards that have an ethernet port or anything that has to do with DIY survailence systems ? |
| 10:03.33 | wols | ##electronics ##hardware maybe |
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| 10:25.11 | jmd | When I do "mkdir /foo && mount /dev/sdb1 /foo" I get the error: mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /foo busy |
| 10:25.17 | jmd | which is clearly a lie. |
| 10:25.43 | jmd | # umount /dev/sdb1 |
| 10:25.43 | jmd | umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted |
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| 10:30.53 | indieross | jmd are you running as root? |
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| 10:31.11 | jmd | indieross, yes. |
| 10:31.21 | jmd | Is that wrong? |
| 10:31.23 | indieross | no |
| 10:31.25 | indieross | .. |
| 10:31.37 | indieross | are you mounting to /mnt or /media? |
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| 10:31.50 | wols | jmd: is the mkdir not done fast enough for the next command? use a "sleep" in between to test? |
| 10:32.02 | jmd | Well, I thought it was clear that I was mounting to /foo |
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| 10:32.25 | indieross | ahh i just thought you were using that as an example |
| 10:32.30 | jmd | wols, the mount command will not start until the mkdir command is completed. |
| 10:33.02 | jmd | wols, Successfully completed. That is why I used && |
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| 10:33.28 | wols | jmd: I know. but say no sync() has been done yet or whatever... |
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| 10:34.12 | jmd | wols, It should not matter. But I will put a sync command there to make sure. |
| 10:34.13 | indieross | just for kicks, try and mkdir /media/foo/ && mount /dev/sdb1 /media/foo/ |
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| 10:34.55 | future28 | Hi there, I got a problem where my filesystem remounted itself as read only. Running fsck gave a few orphaned inodes etc which I fixed, but then I found this: |
| 10:34.56 | future28 | Error reading block 67114445 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan. Ignore error<y>? |
| 10:35.04 | future28 | Shall I ignore the error? |
| 10:35.10 | jmd | # mkdir /media/foo && sync && mount /dev/sdb1 /media/foo |
| 10:35.10 | jmd | mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/foo busy |
| 10:35.36 | jmd | # umount /dev/sdb1 |
| 10:35.37 | jmd | umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted |
| 10:35.49 | indieross | ext4? |
| 10:35.57 | future28 | indieross: Me? |
| 10:36.03 | indieross | no jmd |
| 10:36.13 | jmd | Er yes / is ext4 |
| 10:36.22 | jmd | I think. |
| 10:36.25 | indieross | no what is sdb1 |
| 10:36.41 | jmd | W95 FAT32 |
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| 10:37.09 | wols | I wrote sleep for a specific reason. and sync was just a possible example. but suit yourself |
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| 10:37.19 | indieross | try mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /foo |
| 10:37.53 | jmd | mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/foo/ |
| 10:37.53 | jmd | mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/foo/ busy |
| 10:38.08 | indieross | or mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/sdb1 /foo |
| 10:38.50 | jmd | # mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/sdb1 /foo |
| 10:38.50 | jmd | mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /foo busy |
| 10:38.53 | shingouz | jmd: lsof | grep sdb and you can see what sits and hangs |
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| 10:39.48 | jmd | shingouz, Hmm. I get a lot of stuff. I don't know what is relevant. |
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| 10:40.20 | indieross | does it show up as already mounted in nautilus or any file manager? |
| 10:40.50 | jmd | So far as I am aware, I'm not running anything like that. |
| 10:41.50 | indieross | so is this a server without a desktop environment? |
| 10:42.33 | jmd | Well it's not really a server. It does have a desktop environment, viz: xterm |
| 10:42.47 | jmd | shingouz, http://paste.lisp.org/display/141429 |
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| 10:43.28 | jmd | tries rebooting |
| 10:43.45 | indieross | then run a df |
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| 10:46.04 | lysdexic | anyone here a guru on dd? |
| 10:46.33 | lysdexic | can I safely quit a dd operation and not destroy the HD? |
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| 10:47.22 | shingouz | jmd: i am guessing your gvfsd does the automount thingie on it. man gvfs-mount and see ho to unmount the thingie. your output looks like there is really nothing important open, just that gvfsd has automounted |
| 10:47.28 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: where are you dd:ing from and to? |
| 10:47.35 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: define destroy? |
| 10:47.42 | lysdexic | from /dev/zero to /dev/sdc |
| 10:47.44 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: physically make the drive broken, you mean? |
| 10:47.56 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: yeah, no problem - the filesystem is gone to (any filesystem on it) |
| 10:48.12 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: but the drive is just fine - I use dd dev/zero to remove raid configs from drives all the time |
| 10:48.26 | lysdexic | so I will be able to recreate partitions and mbr with no issues? |
| 10:48.30 | indieross | i head /dev/random is better for that kind of thing |
| 10:48.34 | indieross | heard* |
| 10:48.46 | indieross | lysdexic, definately |
| 10:48.59 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: yes, for that thing you can jsut do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/device bs=1G count=1 |
| 10:49.02 | lysdexic | ok, I just didn't know if it would corrupt a sector or anything like that |
| 10:49.06 | shingouz | lysdexic: what you are doing right now is that you fill up the drive with zeroes. if you kill dd no, you just repartition the drive just like a fesh drive |
| 10:49.11 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: and you will just do the first G of the drive, more then enough |
| 10:49.36 | OpenTokix | indieross: takes like a week for a resonable sized drive |
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| 10:49.42 | OpenTokix | indieross: or if the machine is idle, years =) |
| 10:49.58 | shingouz | fsck the keyboard on this thing... w and r seems to be a bit... sticky :) |
| 10:50.10 | lysdexic | well the thing is this.. I started running dd 24 hours ago with if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc (no other parameters) - silly me |
| 10:50.22 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: =) |
| 10:50.24 | indieross | jmd, also try running df or mount |
| 10:50.28 | shingouz | lysdexic: just kill the dd |
| 10:50.42 | jmd | indieross, How would they help? |
| 10:50.42 | indieross | that might give you some helpful info |
| 10:50.43 | OpenTokix | writing zeros is from a security standpoint also sufficient against all but the most sophisticated attacks |
| 10:51.08 | lysdexic | so now that it has killed the mbr and partition table (which was the initial intent) and is currently at 403GB |
| 10:51.30 | lysdexic | I just wanted to ensure that if I kill it now, I would not have a corrupt sector |
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| 10:51.37 | wols | then the first 403GB of your data is gone. the rest is still there on the disk |
| 10:52.02 | lysdexic | on a 1TB drive |
| 10:52.16 | indieross | jmd, is this a removable drive? would adding an fstab entry for it be prudent? |
| 10:52.19 | lysdexic | so best way to kill it? |
| 10:52.23 | lysdexic | control+c? |
| 10:52.30 | OpenTokix | lysdexic: dont worry |
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| 10:52.34 | indieross | lysdexic, yeah |
| 10:52.45 | lysdexic | ok ty for your help :) |
| 10:53.02 | jmd | indieross, Well it might be a good idea. But if it is refusing to mount, then it's not going to help much. |
| 10:53.06 | OpenTokix | you can also do kill -USR1 pid-of-dd for info on speed and how far you have come =) |
| 10:53.26 | indieross | <shingouz> jmd: i am guessing your gvfsd does the automount thingie on it. man gvfs-mount and see ho to unmount the thingie. your output looks like there is really nothing important open, just that gvfsd has automounted |
| 10:53.55 | indieross | ^ when you rebooted |
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| 10:55.09 | shingouz | jmd: you could conceivably also stop the gvfsd manually for a while. taht might mean that you lose some other filesystems, though |
| 10:55.26 | jmd | I'm not running gvfsd |
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| 10:56.19 | shingouz | jmd: from the paste you showed, it looks like you are. or something open on your gui is. check for things like nautilus and other gui filemanagers |
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| 10:56.59 | jmd | after rebooting I am no longer running anything like that. |
| 10:57.50 | shingouz | jmd: in that case, do another paste, this time include the actual command |
| 10:58.06 | indieross | ps -aux | grep gvfsd |
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| 10:58.49 | shingouz | grep gvfs, actually. catches a bit better in this case |
| 10:59.07 | indieross | ah yes |
| 10:59.30 | jmd | http://paste.lisp.org/display/141430 |
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| 11:01.45 | shingouz | looks like you run multipath there. am i correct, jmd? |
| 11:02.20 | jmd | I imagine that must be part of the debian default install. I have no idea what it is. |
| 11:02.52 | shingouz | jmd: ditto. it is listed as "extra", though |
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| 11:03.44 | shingouz | jmd: check apt-cache show multipath-tools |
| 11:03.47 | indieross | service multipathd stop |
| 11:04.03 | indieross | multipath -F |
| 11:04.33 | indieross | then see check lsof | grep sdb again |
| 11:04.40 | indieross | then check* |
| 11:04.44 | shingouz | would personally remove multipath if it is not needed for anything |
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| 11:04.50 | indieross | i would too |
| 11:04.58 | jmd | sounds like a good idea. |
| 11:05.20 | jmd | ok. multipathd stopped. |
| 11:05.24 | shingouz | ...preferrably the debian way, not with a hammer... |
| 11:05.34 | jmd | Unfortunately I still cannot mount the thing. |
| 11:06.14 | shingouz | jmd: now check for the lsof jsut to be on the safe side. after that umount the partition |
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| 11:07.09 | jmd | lsof | grep sdb is now empty |
| 11:07.27 | shingouz | jmd: now you should be able to umount it |
| 11:07.36 | vadimkolchev | Babilen, decided to get rid of Windows 8, installing Debian now |
| 11:07.39 | jmd | umount /foo says "not mounted" |
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| 11:08.12 | shingouz | jmd: and if you need it mounted, mount it manually. you may have to do this as root |
| 11:08.33 | jmd | shingouz, That is what I have been attempting to do for the last 20 minutes. |
| 11:08.49 | indieross | he means as root |
| 11:08.50 | shingouz | jmd: now you should be able to do that :) |
| 11:08.58 | indieross | he "should" |
| 11:09.10 | jmd | I thought I explained. mount claims "already mounted" umount claims "not mounted" |
| 11:09.27 | shingouz | jmd: it *still* claims it to be mounted? |
| 11:09.37 | jmd | yes. |
| 11:09.46 | shingouz | wtf? |
| 11:10.15 | jmd | Yes. That was my reaction. That's why I came here for help. |
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| 11:10.32 | shingouz | jmd: umount -f /foo? |
| 11:10.36 | indieross | and a df still does not mention anything about /dev/sdb? |
| 11:10.55 | jmd | indieross, no. |
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| 11:11.33 | jmd | shingouz, umount2: Invalid argument |
| 11:11.35 | indieross | dude id try a fstab entry real quick |
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| 11:12.11 | jmd | indieross, That would just add more confusion. If it cannot mount manually how is an fstab entry going to help. |
| 11:12.32 | shingouz | jmd: umount should have that option. man umount and look for the option force |
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| 11:12.47 | indieross | add the entry and reboot, it's a shot in the dark but it might work |
| 11:13.07 | shingouz | and if you do not need the multipath, remove it |
| 11:13.11 | jmd | indieross, ok. I'll try it. |
| 11:13.12 | indieross | it sohould try and mount your device before anything you have installed might be interferring with it |
| 11:13.34 | jmd | shingouz, According to the man page the -f option is relevant only for NFS mounts |
| 11:13.42 | mythril | why do so many website packages depend explicitly on databases and so few applications do? |
| 11:14.04 | indieross | /dev/sdb1 /foo vfat rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 |
| 11:14.10 | indieross | ^ add to ur fstab |
| 11:14.35 | jmd | How about: |
| 11:14.36 | shingouz | jmd: -l should let you do the umount in that case |
| 11:14.40 | nkuttler | mythril: applications mostly run on a single box and don't need to care about scalability |
| 11:14.42 | jmd | /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 11:14.48 | wols | mythril: cause a application can easily write to the filesystem for its data, a website package can not. |
| 11:14.55 | thingamabob | hi, my /var dir. is full, can i delete /var/lib/apt/list/partial ? |
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| 11:15.28 | indieross | jmd, was that entry already in your fstab! |
| 11:15.29 | indieross | ? |
| 11:15.30 | nkuttler | thingamabob: start with apt-get clean/autoclean |
| 11:15.36 | jmd | indieross, no |
| 11:15.39 | indieross | that would totally be causing the problem |
| 11:15.42 | indieross | oh |
| 11:15.43 | indieross | nm |
| 11:15.54 | jmd | Why would it cause a problem? |
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| 11:16.20 | indieross | because it wouldve meant that it was already mounted to /media/usb0 |
| 11:16.32 | shingouz | jmd: if you have an usb automounter running there somewhere, it would make some problems for you |
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| 11:16.51 | jmd | But then umount /dev/sdb1 would have unmounted it. |
| 11:16.55 | indieross | i know when i installed debian from a usb drive that entry showed up |
| 11:16.55 | thingamabob | nkuttler, thank you |
| 11:17.24 | jmd | I don'T have any automounters so far as I'm aware. |
| 11:17.28 | ElDiabolo | Hi. If I have added the architecture, "sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring:i386" should just work and install all dependencies automatically, right? |
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| 11:17.45 | indieross | ElDiabolo, yeah |
| 11:17.46 | Waster_ | hello, my debian wheezy 64 bit on hp dl360 g4 randomly hangs with no messages in logs, how can I troubleshoot it? |
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| 11:18.09 | xand | sounds like a hardware problem Waster_ |
| 11:18.21 | Waster_ | memtest first? |
| 11:18.24 | xand | yes |
| 11:18.24 | Waster_ | I think too |
| 11:18.39 | indieross | ElDiabolo, run as root dpkg --add-architecture i386 first |
| 11:18.45 | indieross | then an apt-get update |
| 11:18.54 | Waster_ | cant systester-cli help to test too? |
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| 11:19.16 | Waster_ | and how can I check and test hardware raid? |
| 11:19.25 | Waster_ | smartctl looks good |
| 11:19.26 | indieross | jdm so yeah add that entry i posted to the fstab and reboot |
| 11:19.43 | indieross | /dev/sdb1 /foo vfat rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 |
| 11:19.45 | indieross | ^that one |
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| 11:19.57 | indieross | its worth a shot |
| 11:20.13 | Waster_ | it very strange because debian squeeze before upgrade on the same hardware works pretty stable |
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| 11:20.41 | jmd | reboots |
| 11:20.59 | ElDiabolo | indieross, I did (with sudo). Instal complains: "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." Normally I would apt-get install -f then, this does nothave any complaints and does not help here. |
| 11:21.49 | indieross | open synaptic and see what the broken pkgs are |
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| 11:22.33 | ElDiabolo | indieross, Is there a command line way to do this? |
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| 11:23.36 | indieross | not sure |
| 11:23.39 | indieross | no gui? |
| 11:24.07 | indieross | try a sudo aptitude -f |
| 11:24.30 | ElDiabolo | indieross, Just used to the command line, I almost never use synaptic. |
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| 11:25.12 | indieross | same here but sometime it can be very handy |
| 11:25.16 | ruukasu | is it possible to "assemble" a debian system from scratch using various packages, similarly to how arch is installed? |
| 11:25.59 | indieross | ruukasu, i suppose. theres the debian core and from there you can install and desktop env you want |
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| 11:26.26 | ruukasu | indieross, what's the core package called? |
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| 11:27.03 | indieross | just download the netinstall version of debian and when you're going through the installer just detick the debian desktop |
| 11:27.14 | indieross | debian-core will be ticked |
| 11:27.36 | indieross | after install youll just come to a command prompt |
| 11:27.50 | indieross | then you could issue the command sudo apt-get gnome-desktop |
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| 11:27.56 | indieross | or any other de that youd like |
| 11:28.25 | indieross | sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop * |
| 11:28.33 | babilen | vadimkolchev: Okay, not sure if it is too late for that, but I'd start with "Guided partitioning, use entire disk" in that case *and* make sure to adjust the sizes chosen for the partitions. Putting everything in / is also an options (i.e. don't split it) -- the sizes chosen by the debian installer are unfortunately not very up-to-date. Using LVM would make resizing things a bit easier later on. |
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| 11:28.59 | ruukasu | indieross, but in theory, could you install it similarly to arch, with one package for kernel, one for coreutils, one for dpkg, one for apt, etc? |
| 11:29.17 | ruukasu | I'm not planning to, I'm just wondering if it can work modularly like that |
| 11:29.35 | ruukasu | or are there parts of the system that aren't in any package |
| 11:30.05 | indieross | ?? any distro is like that |
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| 11:30.21 | indieross | everything is installed via a package |
| 11:30.41 | ruukasu | including, say, the convents of /var and /etc? |
| 11:30.48 | indieross | from grub to systemd to the kernel to the de |
| 11:31.22 | ruukasu | huh, cool |
| 11:31.40 | vadimkolchev | Babilen, well, I suppose it's too late already chose the default partitioning with everything in separate partitions |
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| 11:32.08 | indieross | convewnts or contents? |
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| 11:33.08 | vadimkolchev | If it's not up to date, I think later I will need to resize partitions |
| 11:33.19 | tapout | hey fellas, why does aptitude install php5-json just say "no packages will be updated or installed".. yet i see the package listed? |
| 11:33.26 | tapout | v php5-json |
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| 11:35.32 | ElDiabolo | indieross, Just found that multiarch won't help me here, gnome-keyring is a demon. I do need the client library for some wine stuff. which is unfortunately not packaged separately. |
| 11:36.05 | indieross | ElDiabolo, are you just trying to install wine? |
| 11:36.57 | ElDiabolo | indieross, No, I am trying to get a piece of software to run. |
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| 11:37.09 | ElDiabolo | (under wine). |
| 11:38.10 | indieross | just out of curiosity are you using wine from the liquorix repo? |
| 11:38.45 | indieross | if not you should try it |
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| 11:39.08 | ElDiabolo | indieross, Wine tells me p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so, dpkg -S tells me its in gnome-keyring. But it seems I have to just copy the file. |
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| 11:40.47 | Waster_ | memtest 1 pass finished no errors |
| 11:42.06 | thingamabob | i have just 50mb left on /var. can i clear /var/lib/apt/lists or /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ? |
| 11:43.09 | indieross | ElDiabolo, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring_3.8.2-2+b1_i386.deb |
| 11:43.22 | indieross | just download the package and extract the file you need |
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| 11:43.51 | indieross | thats the version for jessie |
| 11:43.56 | Brigo | thingamabob, no, but you can make apt-get clean, it should help |
| 11:44.23 | thingamabob | Brigo, i do it already |
| 11:44.49 | Brigo | thingamabob, ups :) |
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| 11:45.38 | Brigo | thingamabob, you can try to move logs ... |
| 11:45.43 | streulma | hello, does someone now the release cycle for Debian ? |
| 11:45.59 | thingamabob | Brigo, ok thank you |
| 11:46.08 | forcer | thingamabob: You can likely delete those directories, but they'll be refilled when you do apt-get update. Do check /var/log, I have had some programs with lots of log data there. (And do look at logrotate if that's a recurring problem.) |
| 11:46.33 | wols | !tell streulma about WIR |
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| 11:46.54 | wols | streulma: or what do you mean with release cycle exactly? |
| 11:47.14 | ElDiabolo | indieross, thx |
| 11:47.18 | wols | streulma: debian releases a new debian stable when they are finished. this can take a longer or shorter time. typically at least 18months |
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| 11:47.34 | wols | well major releases. bugfix releases come a lot more often |
| 11:47.59 | streulma | wols: Is there some release cycle, for example Ubuntu releases every 6 months, I would know from Debian 5 to 6 to 7, and when will 8 comes out ? |
| 11:48.14 | wols | no there is no such release cycle at all. |
| 11:48.23 | wols | debian has no fixed dates in any way |
| 11:48.31 | ElDiabolo | Is there a command line to unpack a deb file (to a directory) |
| 11:48.44 | wols | ElDiabolo: yes. man dpkg. look for "x" |
| 11:48.57 | streulma | wols: is Debian more stable for servers then Ubuntu Server ? |
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| 11:49.19 | wols | streulma: think hard to what thing the word "stable" means |
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| 11:49.39 | streulma | wols: I tried Debian and I know, upgrading is simple to do with sed and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:49.51 | ElDiabolo | wols, Thx, stupid me didn't find it because --unpack confused me. |
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| 11:54.56 | indieross | ElDiabolo, did that do the trick? |
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| 11:57.26 | thingamabob | forcer, thank you |
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| 11:58.52 | ElDiabolo | indieross, Yeah, the error message changed. I wish more people would do what the teamviewer guis do. They are simply packaging their windows app with a wine dependency. Just works, no hassle. |
| 11:59.05 | ElDiabolo | s/guis/guys/ |
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| 11:59.52 | indieross | why use teamviewer? chrom has a fantastic remote desktop solution |
| 12:00.08 | indieross | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-remote-desktop/gbchcmhmhahfdphkhkmpfmihenigjmpp?hl=en |
| 12:00.17 | indieross | its cross platform |
| 12:00.21 | ElDiabolo | indieross, The other end uses it. |
| 12:00.30 | indieross | get em to convert |
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| 12:02.09 | ElDiabolo | indieross, Won#t work, the other end is part of a company and they had a hard time to convinece the firewall people with temviewer. They won't do that again anytime soon. |
| 12:03.09 | indieross | chrome remote desktop should bypass the firewall |
| 12:03.15 | ElDiabolo | indieross, Anyway, just mentioned it because of their packaging. We're getting OT. |
| 12:03.43 | ElDiabolo | indieross, Uh, thats interesting :) |
| 12:04.05 | indieross | it works a lot like join.me |
| 12:04.27 | indieross | no firewall tweaks necessary |
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| 12:09.33 | babilen | vadimkolchev: Ah, okay. Please double/triple check that they are okay as changing that later is a real pain. The installer frequently chooses /var and /usr way too small and you will have headaches later on |
| 12:10.51 | tdn | I have a few small programs/tools that I use on various Debian or Debian based systems. Right now, I check out my repository on each host and copy/symlink files manually into /usr/local/bin. This is rather tedious work, so I am wondering, will it be better to create a .deb package called tdn-tools or something like that and set up an apt source for this? How much work would it be to set up something like that? Also, how do I approach such a task? Where to start? |
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| 12:33.50 | babilen | vadimkolchev: Regarding your graphic card question on OFTC: If you are using a radeon card you are probably missing libgl1-mesa-dri and firmware-linux-nonfree. See "/msg dpkg radeon" for details. I'd also recommend to install the intel-microcode or amd64-microcode packages if you have an Intel or AMD processor respectively. (bug fixes for your processor) |
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| 12:34.50 | vadimkolchev | Babilen, thanks, already figured out, just installed proprietary Nvidia drivers |
| 12:35.14 | babilen | vadimkolchev: For firmware-linux-nonfree and the microcode packages you will have to enable non-free software in your sources.list. For that edit /etc/apt/sources.list (e.g. with "nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list") and make it look like: http://paste.debian.net/84727/ - Then run "apt-get update" and you should be able to install those packages with "apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri" |
| 12:35.27 | babilen | vadimkolchev: Ah, you are using nvidia -- How did you install them? |
| 12:35.50 | babilen | vadimkolchev: fwiw, the seminal instructions are on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 12:36.30 | vadimkolchev | Installed dkms and headers, then configured in xorg, everything is working now |
| 12:36.39 | babilen | +1 |
| 12:36.54 | babilen | vadimkolchev: Very good -- and your partitions are large enough to not bite you later? |
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| 12:37.06 | vadimkolchev_ | babilen, anyway, thanks a lot for help) |
| 12:37.10 | babilen | vadimkolchev: I'd still recommend to grab the microcode packages (fwiw) |
| 12:37.44 | babilen | vadimkolchev: You are welcome, enjoy! :D |
| 12:37.45 | vadimkolchev_ | babilen, I installed firmware-linux-nonfree, if that is what you mean |
| 12:38.25 | babilen | No, I am referring to either amd64-microcode or intel-microcode for AMD or Intel processors respectively |
| 12:38.30 | babilen | dpkg: tell vadimkolchev_ -about microcode |
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| 12:39.04 | vadimkolchev_ | babilen, ah, ok, thanks |
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| 12:50.04 | asterismo | hi people, i need help with something |
| 12:50.17 | asterismo | 'm using debian wheezy XFCE |
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| 12:50.53 | asterismo | and after some hours or days, it's like i cannot execute any application by the panel menu |
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| 12:51.00 | asterismo | or keyboard shortcuts |
| 12:51.03 | asterismo | any ideas? |
| 12:51.19 | jaami | hi, i need help to use my mobile on debian |
| 12:51.24 | asterismo | a xfce4-session restart (login/logout) fixes the problem |
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| 12:53.29 | jaami | lsusb shows my mobile but adb deamon does not see it. i remember i used rules to identify my mobile on fedora i think i need same rules on debian too |
| 12:54.02 | jaami | but i forgot how to define rules and also fedora and debian work differently |
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| 12:54.29 | jaami | can someone help me to add my device in debian repository |
| 12:55.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | asterismo, did you look through https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xfwm4 ... I guess it would be the WM that would be responsible for keyboard shortcuts? if not... find out what component is |
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| 12:57.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | asterismo, also... look for errors on the console it's started from... you can probably replace the running one with a new one with the --replace option... the same errors would possibly turn up on the xconsole |
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| 13:00.33 | jaami | how do i ad rules and where to add them for my mobile attached to system. |
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| 13:02.07 | asterismo | CutMeOwnThroat, i cannot execute any shell, but if i have a shell already executed it works fine, but i cannot execute apps from the XFCE panel menu or Alt+F2 or shortcuts, it's odd |
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| 13:04.50 | mcgreg | hi |
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| 13:05.31 | mcgreg | can I somehow tell dpkg/apt-get no to upgrade packages if I do a apt-get upgrade? like if I never want to upgrade package X? |
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| 13:05.52 | wols | !tell mcgreg about hold |
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| 13:06.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | asterismo, I suggested you run/replace the whole xfce session from a shell |
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| 13:07.21 | asterismo | CutMeOwnThroat, but i lose everything |
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| 13:13.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | asterismo, usually, you don't |
| 13:13.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | asterismo, I haven't used xfce, but gnome and its window manager and openbox... |
| 13:13.57 | jaami | how to get android mobile recognized by adb server on debian? |
| 13:13.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | asterismo, and you can run "openbox --replace" from a shell |
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| 13:16.50 | nunnsby | Hi all any help on samba not restarting on reboot? |
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| 13:17.14 | petn-randall | nunnsby: Have you checked the logs? |
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| 13:18.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | petn-randall, perhaws we should have a factoid named "l" (to minimize typing) that asks that :) |
| 13:18.23 | nunnsby | @petn-randall, nothing showing |
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| 13:18.56 | petn-randall | claims he's not a Perl array. |
| 13:18.59 | asterismo | CutMeOwnThroat, how do i set openbox window manager by default in XFCE desktop? |
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| 13:19.52 | petn-randall | nunnsby: Is in /etc/rc2.d/ a symlink to /etc/init.d/samba? |
| 13:20.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | asterismo, I meant you can usually, if it's not completely stuck, replace the wm from an xterm while keeping all windows... that might be a) a workaround b) would give you the console output from your xfce-wm when the error occurs, which gives you something to google for |
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| 13:24.32 | petn-randall | nunnsby: You can also paste the output of 'ls -l /etc/rc2.d/' to http://paste.debian.net instead. |
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| 13:24.45 | asterismo | CutMeOwnThroat, i'll try that, but i think it's most a problem of xfce4-session because everything goes back to normality when loging in again.... cannot find anything on google that matches my problem |
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| 13:27.49 | jaami | when i copy my apk from debian to mobile it does not work on mobile when i do the same on win then there is no problem |
| 13:28.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | asterismo, you will be much better able to google for the problem with an actual error message... even now, I'd think it would turn up in xconsole (the program) .. I *know* the window manager write errors on the terminal they're started from, though |
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| 13:40.56 | nunnsby | petn-randall, appears that it is a boot order issue |
| 13:41.10 | nunnsby | seems it is booting up too early, so not initialising properly |
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| 13:57.10 | astol | hi all. configuring my servers, ran into strange problem. I am unable to retrieve repo key from keys.gnupg.net |
| 13:57.16 | astol | I am using the following command: apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --logger-fd 1 --recv-keys 1C4CBDCDCD2EFD2A |
| 13:57.24 | astol | it times out |
| 13:57.43 | astol | curl keys.gnupg.net times out as well - getaddrinfo(3) failed for keys.gnupg.net:80 |
| 13:58.02 | astol | but I am able to curl example.com and other sites |
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| 13:58.43 | astol | what could it be? what to check? at first I thought I blocked port 80 out, but no, it works |
| 13:58.48 | astol | for other sites |
| 13:59.00 | abrotman | isn't it gpg.net ? |
| 13:59.11 | abrotman | oh,nope |
| 13:59.37 | iLogic | hey guys, I just installed debian wheezy with gnome but it seems that only the Desktop folder is created on my home folder, no Downloads, Pictures, Movies, Music, etc.. is this right? |
| 13:59.42 | astol | the command isn't generated by me, it is generated by salt stack and it was working a while ago |
| 13:59.54 | astol | but I guess I've misconfigured something, but what? |
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| 14:01.10 | astol | http://pastebin.com/9kCie4n3 nc,nslookup and curl output |
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| 14:08.47 | jaami | if mobile as storage is recognized and shown with lsusb but not found with adb shell then what i should do if i want adb to find mobile? |
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| 14:12.44 | astol | turns out TCP 53 was closed on dns. opened it and it began to work. still not sure, why this was a problem. |
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| 14:13.13 | petn-randall | nunnsby: Which release are you running? |
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| 14:14.54 | jaami | hello excuse me, i do need help |
| 14:15.00 | petn-randall | jaami: You'll have to enable developer mode on your Android to be able to get an adb shell on there. |
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| 14:15.24 | jaami | i did that petn-randall |
| 14:16.23 | jaami | petn-randall: lsusb shows mobile and also when mobile is used as storage |
| 14:16.34 | petn-randall | jaami: Any output you get and error messages would be great for starters. → http://paste.debian.net |
| 14:16.35 | jaami | problem is for adb shell |
| 14:17.14 | jaami | there is no error , the command is adb devices ... and then nothing shows up |
| 14:17.45 | jaami | petn-randall: i used same mobile on fedora after defining rules for it |
| 14:18.18 | jaami | petn-randall: the lsusb shows the serial number that goes to some rules.d file somewhere i forgot |
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| 14:18.48 | jaami | petn-randall: to me this issue is more like permission or |
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| 14:19.15 | jaami | please tell me how to add rules in debian for a new device |
| 14:19.39 | petn-randall | jaami: Can you provide any info you did on the Fedora machine to make it work? |
| 14:20.28 | jaami | hmm, i lost the saved doc that had all steps. all i rememebr was that the lsub info is picked and added in rules.d file |
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| 14:21.32 | jaami | for example the ID info "Bus 001 Device 012: ID 1782:5d00" |
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| 14:22.13 | jaami | the ID 1782:3d00 is unique for my mobile and that goes to rules.d or whatever the name was for the file |
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| 14:22.55 | jaami | one of the set of 4 digits is manufacturer and other id the serial # |
| 14:23.40 | jaami | that info above i picked from lsub command |
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| 14:24.11 | jaami | does this help to find any clue of the rules.d ? |
| 14:26.15 | val_erie | I am using debian wheezy 7.4 with 3.12-0 kernel and I am having problems with browsers: iceweasel' s full screen function is not working and chromium's video image is full of glitter. I have flashplugin-nonfree installed. Do I need to install other plugins ? |
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| 14:27.34 | jaami | i never installed flash on my innocent debian |
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| 14:29.25 | jaami | val_erie: perhaps supported video format need to be checked |
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| 14:31.04 | val_erie | I am wondering if installing linux kernel through debian backports could be causing the problem? |
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| 14:32.25 | jaami | petn-randall: i found the clue for rules.d actually i thought it was hard to find so did not try a search. https://wiki.debian.org/udev |
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| 14:34.25 | anton4 | hello, sorry for my bad english. I have just installed debian on my laptop but I cant start xserver. can you help me ? I installed bumblebee-nvidia ,primus and xorg |
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| 14:37.30 | tengri | anton4: did you install a window manager or a desktop environment? |
| 14:37.55 | anton4 | tengri : yes I did, I installed mate and lightdm |
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| 14:39.49 | tengri | anton4: can you put "exec mate-session" without the quotes in ~/.xinitrc and try to startx in the console? |
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| 14:40.38 | anton4 | tengri: root or user? |
| 14:40.54 | tengri | anton4: user. /home/user/.xinitrc for example |
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| 14:41.50 | richard_w | i have a really strange problem: every tcp-connection made to my freshly installed debian machine is refused |
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| 14:42.38 | petemc | richard_w: do you have services running on the ports you're testing? |
| 14:42.50 | richard_w | petemc: yes, openssh |
| 14:43.01 | richard_w | and nmap says that the port is closed |
| 14:43.12 | anton4 | tengri : fatal error : (EE) no screens found (EE) |
| 14:43.24 | petemc | richard_w: check with netstat |
| 14:43.33 | richard_w | i did, it is there |
| 14:43.40 | richard_w | and it listens |
| 14:43.49 | petemc | what does netstat say, exactly? |
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| 14:44.38 | richard_w | petemc, local address: 0.0.0.0:22 |
| 14:44.48 | richard_w | foreign address: 0.0.0.0:* |
| 14:44.58 | richard_w | state: LISTEN |
| 14:45.23 | petemc | and if you telnet host 22 , what does it say? |
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| 14:45.46 | richard_w | petemc, netcat exits with exit status 1 |
| 14:45.47 | tengri | anton4: can you install the package xserver-xorg-video-vesa ? |
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| 14:46.04 | richard_w | telnet hangs |
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| 14:46.17 | petemc | richard_w: is there a firewall between you and the host? |
| 14:47.00 | richard_w | petemc, there is a firewall, between the lan and the WAN (all ipv4 addresses are publicly routable) |
| 14:47.07 | anton4 | tengri : yes, same error |
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| 14:47.14 | richard_w | but it should not affect the connectio |
| 14:47.26 | petemc | are you connecting from wan to lan or.. ? |
| 14:47.27 | richard_w | so no, no firewall between the hosts |
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| 14:47.46 | richard_w | from lan and wan... issue is the same |
| 14:48.03 | anton4 | tengri : I dont have xorg.conf |
| 14:48.05 | richard_w | when i assign the ip to another host ssh works fine from lan and wan |
| 14:48.22 | richard_w | so i do not think this is a firewall issue |
| 14:48.41 | richard_w | i should mention that there is a managed switch i do not have any control over |
| 14:48.54 | petemc | i would suspect firewall before switch, usually |
| 14:49.06 | petemc | you could use tcpdump |
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| 14:50.38 | richard_w | k i'll try that |
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| 14:52.35 | richard_w | nothing... the packets do not arrive at all... |
| 14:52.52 | richard_w | -> i'll go annoy the network admins... |
| 14:53.17 | Tiberio | hi all, I installed AMD64+i386 multiarch wheezy. My notebook lacks in RAM, swap is always in use... Does multiarch drain RAM? |
| 14:53.42 | Tiberio | if I remove i386 architecture I save only hd space or RAM one too? |
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| 14:54.29 | wols | negligible amounts of RAM saved. if you have a low amount of RAM you should install i386 only |
| 14:54.33 | wols | how much RAM do you have? |
| 14:54.49 | frostschutz | Tiberio, depends on what processes are running. I'd say it'd save HDD space only |
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| 14:55.12 | Tiberio | I have AMD athlon 64 |
| 14:55.23 | wols | that is irrelevant. I asked how much RAM you have |
| 14:55.34 | Tiberio | how to check for PCU info by linux commands? |
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| 14:55.55 | wols | what info do you need? you don't need to know anything about the CPU to tell me how much RAM you have |
| 14:56.03 | Tiberio | my notebook is 10y old... RAM: 1GB about |
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| 14:56.28 | wols | Tiberio: then you need to install i386 and use a low ressource usage X desktop. like LXDE |
| 14:56.31 | val_erie | jaami, you mentioned that you do not install flash, how do you make youtube videos work? |
| 14:56.46 | frostschutz | you should check which processes are using your ram and then thin them out some |
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| 14:56.58 | frostschutz | that usually has more effect than the arch ;) |
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| 14:57.07 | Tiberio | wols, I'm using openbox... it's very light |
| 14:57.08 | wols | Tiberio: this one http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso |
| 14:57.25 | wols | Tiberio: openbox is fine too of course. but you should still use the i386 debian |
| 14:57.59 | Tiberio | I didn't know i386 use less RAM than AMD64... |
| 14:58.11 | richard_w | petemc, thanks for your help |
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| 14:58.14 | Tiberio | I used AMD64 in squeeze too... |
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| 14:58.35 | Tiberio | and it was quite ok |
| 14:58.38 | wols | Tiberio: check what uses up your RAM with top then |
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| 14:58.53 | namespace | If I need *free* firmware for my devices, where do I get it? |
| 14:59.01 | wols | operands are bigger in 64bit assembly language, so the code is bigger and needs more RAM |
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| 14:59.05 | namespace | The debian manual seems to only discuss non-free drivers. |
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| 14:59.30 | wols | namespace: what firmware do you need exactly. if the firmware is free, it is already contained in debian by default |
| 14:59.36 | Alpha38m | Hello |
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| 15:00.19 | wols | namespace: rather, for which device do you need firmware? |
| 15:00.22 | Tiberio | iceweasel: 26%, clamd 24% icedove 11% |
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| 15:00.34 | namespace | wols: Hold on, lemme lsusb. |
| 15:00.36 | wols | Tiberio: why do you run clamd? |
| 15:00.37 | Tiberio | xorg: 5% |
| 15:01.06 | Tiberio | wols, to check incoming mail I installed icedove plugin named *clamav* |
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| 15:01.36 | wols | there won't be any malware for linux in your email :) no need for it |
| 15:02.12 | Tiberio | wols, so you suggest to deactivate clamd? |
| 15:02.16 | wols | imho yes |
| 15:02.28 | Tiberio | that's could be a real RAM saving action! |
| 15:02.42 | Tiberio | Ok, I'm going to deactivate that deamon |
| 15:02.53 | Tiberio | one more question: |
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| 15:03.25 | Tiberio | I want to make icedove imap timeout bigger |
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| 15:04.24 | FuuuqUmiist | hi |
| 15:04.24 | Tiberio | but if I change it... when I access IMAP... it come back to your old number (default setting) |
| 15:04.34 | Tiberio | any solutions? |
| 15:04.50 | wols | what did you change? |
| 15:05.13 | wols | there is a setting mailnews.tcptimeout for example which you could change. about:config or in prefs.js |
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| 15:05.34 | service2 | hello |
| 15:06.08 | service2 | is there a way to install debian on a laptop that have only uefi |
| 15:06.14 | namespace | wols: Ah, found it. Requires non-free firmware. |
| 15:06.22 | petn-randall | service2: Yes. |
| 15:06.33 | namespace | wols: Thanks for the help. |
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| 15:07.34 | service2 | petn-randall: have you got a tutorial |
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| 15:08.04 | service2 | the installation cd can not boot |
| 15:08.39 | service2 | and the is no option on bios to change uefi mode to legacy bios |
| 15:08.51 | petn-randall | service2: It works out of the box. Only thing you need to do is deactivate "secure boot". And if there's no other OS on the laptop, also any legacy or CSM options. |
| 15:08.58 | Tiberio | wols, I changed single IMAP timeout setting. |
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| 15:09.16 | petn-randall | service2: What image did you download? How did you prepare it? |
| 15:09.41 | Tiberio | wols, mail.server.server10.timeout |
| 15:09.43 | eskatrem | hey, I have a problem, I can't create a directory in /git, even though I ran as root: chmod -R /git 775 |
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| 15:10.08 | service2 | i download the latest net-install |
| 15:10.13 | service2 | stable |
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| 15:10.34 | FuuuqUmiist | what do you type in the terminal to figure out what a key a called like XF86AudioMute |
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| 15:10.55 | wols | FuuuqUmiist: since when does Xorg do audio? |
| 15:11.03 | petn-randall | service2: So wheezy? Which architecture? |
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| 15:11.14 | service2 | amd64 |
| 15:11.27 | wols | ah. it's a xmodmap thing. FuuuqUmiist if you had used google, you knew it's .xmodmap |
| 15:11.30 | petn-randall | service2: And then you burnt the image onto a CD? |
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| 15:11.42 | service2 | yes |
| 15:11.45 | FuuuqUmiist | wols i'm just looking for what the key is called |
| 15:11.58 | petn-randall | service2: What error message do you get then? |
| 15:12.26 | service2 | no error |
| 15:12.27 | wols | FuuuqUmiist: they key is called XF86AudioMute, what else? |
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| 15:12.36 | service2 | just can not boot |
| 15:12.43 | service2 | like there is no cd |
| 15:12.52 | service2 | the laptop is this |
| 15:12.56 | service2 | toshiba Satellite C55-A-1RG |
| 15:13.00 | FuuuqUmiist | wols that is an example key because i don't know what it is called |
| 15:13.02 | petn-randall | service2: So you pick "boot from CD" from your UEFI, and it just sits there? Or it boots the other OS? |
| 15:13.25 | wols | FuuuqUmiist: what is the actual thing you want to do? |
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| 15:13.42 | FuuuqUmiist | wols i'm trying to make keyboard shortcuts |
| 15:13.55 | service2 | the hard disc is clean |
| 15:13.59 | service2 | with no os |
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| 15:14.11 | val_erie | My iceweasel plugins show shockwave flash as outdated plugin. Command update-flashplugin-nonfree --status gives me: link currently points to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so and Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so' How am I to update it ? |
| 15:14.15 | service2 | it says no bootable device found |
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| 15:14.30 | service2 | the laptop hae this Intel Mobile Celeron N2815 |
| 15:14.33 | service2 | cpu |
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| 15:15.03 | service2 | that does not support uefi/csm boot mode but only uefi |
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| 15:15.45 | petn-randall | service2: Unless you explicitely pick to boot from CD, it won't do that. Check if there is any key to press to call the boot menu when the UEFI splash screen is shown. |
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| 15:16.46 | service2 | yes i press f12 |
| 15:16.52 | service2 | and press to boot from cd |
| 15:17.05 | service2 | are debian uefi capble os? |
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| 15:17.37 | service2 | the answer from toshiba is that " You can install only UEFI capable system like Win 8 or Win 8.1" |
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| 15:18.44 | petn-randall | service2: Yes, wheezy is still UEFI capable. |
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| 15:19.14 | FuuuqUmiist | so does anyone know? |
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| 15:20.11 | petn-randall | service2: It could always be a misburn. Can you test if the CD boots on any other machine? |
| 15:20.12 | pakaran | Hi, anyone else having issues with Google Chrome 34.0.1847.14 beta hanging on Facebook? |
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| 15:20.23 | pakaran | I'm on amd64 testing |
| 15:20.35 | pakaran | (why do they call it amd64 when I have a core 2, lol) |
| 15:20.37 | service2 | i will burn it again |
| 15:20.45 | service2 | thx very much petn-randall |
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| 15:21.23 | petn-randall | service2: You're very welcome. So it's unreadable on another machine? |
| 15:21.41 | petn-randall | pakaran: jessie/sid are supported on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:22.05 | pakaran | ok thanks. |
| 15:22.26 | pakaran | I'm aware it's not an official debian release, but coming from Gentoo, it feels extremely stable 90% of the time :) |
| 15:22.43 | petn-randall | pakaran: But then again, you not using the chromium packaged by Debian, so they probably won't be interested in any bug report. |
| 15:22.59 | pakaran | petn-randall, is there likely to be an issue with having both installed? |
| 15:23.12 | petn-randall | pakaran: Yes, testing is more stable than most other distros :) |
| 15:23.14 | pakaran | I am asking in #chromium-support as well, just stopped by here to see if anyone was encountering the same issue |
| 15:23.25 | pakaran | and to be clear, that's a positive. |
| 15:23.29 | pakaran | :) |
| 15:24.07 | nunnsby | @petn-randall, running raspbian, so think it is a slow boot problem |
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| 15:25.30 | pakaran | in any case, i'm there now, but installing Chromium is a good idea, thanks, petn-randall. |
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| 15:26.00 | pakaran | I know RMS is going to kick my butt sooner or later, but I like having some stuff synched with my phone. |
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| 15:26.09 | FuuuqUmiist | wols btw its called xev |
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| 15:26.21 | FuuuqUmiist | smeone helped me on another network |
| 15:26.25 | petn-randall | !raspbian |
| 15:26.26 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 15:26.34 | wols | FuuuqUmiist: so you want scancodes/keycodes? |
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| 15:33.48 | babilen | pakaran: Oh, and please don't cross-post |
| 15:34.05 | babilen | nvm, /me should have checked the timestamps :) |
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| 15:40.02 | pakaran | sorry |
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| 15:47.34 | spyder | how to install directly from .deb package? |
| 15:48.30 | wols | spyder: dpkg -i <file.deb> |
| 15:48.46 | spyder | wols: ok |
| 15:48.49 | spyder | thanks |
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| 16:10.28 | doebi | clear |
| 16:10.33 | doebi | dammit |
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| 16:18.51 | wols | petn-randall: time to write it then! |
| 16:20.04 | bullgard4 | On a remote machine: '/usr/local/apache/htdocs # ls -al; drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 1024 Feb 3 2012 adv,' - What does the comma following »adv« mean? |
| 16:22.03 | mjt | what does "a" in "adv" mean? :) |
| 16:22.38 | gnugnu8 | install: target `/usr/share/lxc/templates/lxc-debian-multistrap.d/file/etc/' is not a directory: No such file or directory |
| 16:22.42 | gnugnu8 | install --mode=755 lxc-debian-multistrap.d/file/etc/fstab $(DESTDIR)$(templatedir-d)/file/etc/ |
| 16:22.45 | gnugnu8 | Why doesn't create it the directories? |
| 16:22.46 | gnugnu8 | Do I need two separate calls? One for the directories and one for the file in the last directory? |
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| 16:24.34 | jwanglof | Do I really need a CD-ROM installed in a computer to install Debian? I |
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| 16:25.00 | nkuttler | jwanglof: no |
| 16:25.03 | jwanglof | I use Arch Linux daily but I'm gonna install Debian on my server but it says it doesn't find a CD-ROM |
| 16:25.03 | nkuttler | !tell jwanglof about ig |
| 16:26.59 | wols | jwanglof: you can use a usb stick too if your hardware can boot from it (usually it can). you can even install from another OS with debootstrap |
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| 16:27.43 | jwanglof | It boots and all but fails on step 3 (or something) because it doesn't find a cd-rom. But I'm gonna look in the guide if I find anything |
| 16:27.48 | nkuttler | jwanglof: or you can boot the installer from the network |
| 16:27.56 | nkuttler | jwanglof: how do you boot? |
| 16:27.59 | jwanglof | USB |
| 16:28.03 | mtn | jwanglof: if you are using a usb, you didn't make the usb correctly |
| 16:28.07 | nkuttler | jwanglof: sounds like you forgot to put an iso on it |
| 16:28.10 | mtn | jwanglof: don't use unetbootin |
| 16:28.13 | jwanglof | I |
| 16:28.19 | jwanglof | I'm not, used DD |
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| 16:28.33 | jwanglof | And the stick works, it boots and I can access the installation process |
| 16:29.14 | jwanglof | Well, I guess it works anyways |
| 16:29.16 | nkuttler | jwanglof: huh? which step 3 are you talking about? during the install? |
| 16:29.20 | jwanglof | Yup |
| 16:29.32 | nkuttler | jwanglof: sounds like there is a cdrom line in your sources.list.. odd though |
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| 16:29.53 | nkuttler | jwanglof: fwiw, you can switch to a console and edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the cd entry, if that's it |
| 16:30.03 | nkuttler | jwanglof: which installer are you using? |
| 16:30.27 | jwanglof | Ok, gonna try that. Downloaded "A small installation image" since I want to install what I need from the net |
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| 16:30.57 | bullgard4 | mjt: I appreciate you being a joker. |
| 16:31.36 | gnugnu8 | I found it out: add flag -D |
| 16:31.52 | mjt | bullgard4: sorry? That's a nice introduction... |
| 16:32.38 | jwanglof | I get stuck on "Detect and mount CD-ROM". /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't exist in the filesystem on the media |
| 16:34.46 | nkuttler | jwanglof: um, which install step is that? |
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| 16:37.08 | jwanglof | nkuttler, number 3 |
| 16:37.16 | nkuttler | jwanglof: what is it called? |
| 16:37.24 | jwanglof | "Detect and mount CD-ROM" |
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| 16:37.58 | nkuttler | iirc during usb install the installer should find the iso on the usb stick |
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| 16:38.15 | jwanglof | That's what I thought =P |
| 16:38.25 | nkuttler | jwanglof: anyway, ask in #debian-boot on the oftc irc network. that's the official installer channel |
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| 16:38.57 | jwanglof | Ok, gonna do some more googling first |
| 16:38.58 | veek | any way to turn off eth0? ping works even after ifconfig eth0 down |
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| 16:39.07 | nkuttler | jwanglof: or just try to ignore that step... and do the next ones.. |
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| 16:39.37 | jwanglof | nkuttler, can't since it looks for the packages to install from on the cd-rom |
| 16:39.50 | nkuttler | jwanglof: oh, check /target |
| 16:39.52 | jwanglof | I tried to mount the usb-drive in /cdrom but that didn't work |
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| 16:40.37 | nkuttler | jwanglof: are you sure you have a wheezy installer image? this is quite unusual |
| 16:40.51 | Waster_ | how can I have console, messages like "task XXX blocked for more than 120 seconds"? |
| 16:41.02 | Waster_ | Ш ьуфт сщтыщду ьуыыфпуы шт дщпы |
| 16:41.07 | Waster_ | I mean console messages in logs |
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| 16:41.10 | jwanglof | nkuttler, got this one: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 16:41.25 | nkuttler | jwanglof: :\ still, try to modify the sources.list in /target |
| 16:41.26 | Waster_ | not only on console |
| 16:41.36 | jwanglof | nkuttler, /target does not exist |
| 16:41.49 | nkuttler | jwanglof: ok, ask the installer channel then |
| 16:41.53 | jwanglof | Will do =) |
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| 16:43.13 | veek | guys on wheezy my eth0 is pingable even after i down it |
| 16:43.21 | Waster_ | I have server freezes with that messages each day with no any messages in logs, and stuck with troubleshooting trying to find a reason |
| 16:43.49 | nkuttler | veek: can you ping it when you pull the cable? |
| 16:44.11 | babilen | hahaha |
| 16:44.24 | nkuttler | just checkin' |
| 16:44.33 | veek | no cable this is on my machine |
| 16:44.39 | nkuttler | ... |
| 16:44.40 | veek | an d there's no hosts entry etc |
| 16:44.58 | nkuttler | veek: which command exactly are you using? |
| 16:45.14 | veek | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 16:45.24 | nkuttler | the ping |
| 16:45.30 | veek | and ping 192.168.1.30 |
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| 16:45.41 | nkuttler | veek: paste.debian.net, the output of ifconfig -a |
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| 16:46.55 | babilen | And include that of "ip route" too |
| 16:47.20 | nkuttler | veek: and the output from ping |
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| 16:47.55 | veek | http://pastebin.com/2QHiyh0s |
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| 16:48.41 | veek | and those are my ports |
| 16:49.00 | veek | Ooo my first really cool bug :) |
| 16:49.04 | veek | purrss |
| 16:49.22 | babilen | veek: Please use http://paste.debian.net, paste the output of "ifconfig -a" and also include "ip route" please. |
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| 16:51.43 | veek | http://paste.debian.net/84758/ |
| 16:52.34 | veek | http://paste.debian.net/84759/ |
| 16:53.00 | veek | lsmod? |
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| 16:53.23 | crafty1 | jwanglof: I had that problem before. I have no idea how I fixed it but I remember switching from IDE to AHCI and it working afterwards |
| 16:53.37 | crafty1 | jwanglof: the cd error. havent seen it in a while |
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| 16:54.36 | veek | well... ? |
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| 16:57.07 | veek | btw, how does one go about configuring a hotspot wifi on linux? iwconfig wlan0 essid "hotspottown" and dhclient -i wlan0 -v -d? Anything else? |
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| 16:57.46 | nkuttler | veek: um, you need nat, dhcp, dns, yadda |
| 16:57.58 | nkuttler | veek: check the dnsmasq package |
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| 16:58.15 | veek | dns done (pdnsd) nat - why? |
| 16:58.30 | veek | i just want to browse from the laptop |
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| 16:59.30 | wols | veek: by using hostapd. not iwconfig |
| 16:59.47 | wols | veek: and if you want to hand out dhcp, you use dnsmasq |
| 17:00.00 | wols | veek: not pdns |
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| 17:00.34 | jwanglof | crafty1, okey =) Will try that too. Ty! |
| 17:00.41 | veek | wols i don't want to run a hotspot.. i want to access a free hotspot.. i know how to access wep+key and ccmp but.. free hotspots? |
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| 17:02.45 | wols | veek: then either use network-manager or edit your /etc/network/interfaces accrodingly |
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| 17:03.35 | jhutchins | !wifi |
| 17:03.35 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 17:04.19 | veek | wols given that i can use iwconfig to access a wifi-wep AP, i'd like to maintain consistency and use a cmd-line tool to access the free-hotspot |
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| 17:05.32 | zett_zelett | My webcam doesn’t work and I cannot figure out why by myself. Where can I go for help? |
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| 17:06.25 | veek | hey what do i do about the weird ethernet device?? |
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| 17:16.26 | zett_zelett | Did someone say anything to me? |
| 17:16.38 | zett_zelett | I got disconnected. |
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| 17:23.11 | hfp | Hi, I can't get my intel 4965 wifi to connect to the WPA network. This is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastie.org/private/zltrnlzzn28lbono2gwnmg, this is what happens when I `ifup wlan0`: http://pastie.org/private/fdceruqrns5gvo9t0bnsjq and this is my lspci: http://pastie.org/private/ehdbhdvqhj7hs4dwi19g. What am I missing? |
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| 17:23.46 | hfp | (any other devices on the wlan or lan have no problem getting DHCP leases) |
| 17:24.09 | mtn | zett_zelett: did you try using cheese? |
| 17:24.22 | zett_zelett | Yeah, I have no /dev/video*. |
| 17:24.30 | zett_zelett | So it says "device not found". |
| 17:24.35 | mtn | zett_zelett: is your webcam builtin? |
| 17:24.38 | zett_zelett | Yes. |
| 17:25.07 | zett_zelett | I want to know how I can check that the whole device is even registered by my machine. |
| 17:25.10 | mtn | zett_zelett: you can run "lspci -nn" and see if it is recongnized. |
| 17:25.29 | Hans-Martin | zett_zelett: do you know how it is connected? maybe internal USB connection? then lsusb should report it. |
| 17:26.04 | zett_zelett | lsusb doesn’t report it as far as I can tell. |
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| 17:26.53 | zett_zelett | What words should I look for in the output of "lspci -nn"? |
| 17:27.02 | zett_zelett | It doesn’t look like it has it, but I’m not sure. |
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| 17:27.07 | Hans-Martin | zett_zelett: maybe knowing the computer/laptop model would help... |
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| 17:27.40 | zett_zelett | I have a thinkpad x200. |
| 17:27.45 | zett_zelett | And. |
| 17:28.20 | mtn | zett_zelett: paste the results to http://paste.debian.net and give us the link |
| 17:28.21 | zett_zelett | I dunno which model exactly and I don’t know where to look except maybe on the bottom of the machine which I can’t reach right now, because it’s plugged into an ultrabay. |
| 17:28.25 | zett_zelett | http://pastebin.com/3iZkspuw |
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| 17:29.22 | Hans-Martin | ok, have you already found this? http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=151889 |
| 17:29.24 | mtn | zett_zelett: it does not appear to be recognized |
| 17:29.29 | Hans-Martin | I'll have a look at your paste |
| 17:29.48 | zett_zelett | Hm. |
| 17:29.56 | zett_zelett | It has been in the past. |
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| 17:30.07 | zett_zelett | What could have changed? |
| 17:30.23 | mtn | zett_zelett: paste the lsusb results, too |
| 17:30.25 | zett_zelett | Does this mean it’s some hardware failure or something? |
| 17:30.41 | zett_zelett | http://paste.debian.net/84767/ |
| 17:30.42 | mtn | zett_zelett: it worked with debian before? |
| 17:31.02 | zett_zelett | Yes. |
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| 17:31.33 | zett_zelett | I updated the kernel in the meantime, though. |
| 17:31.40 | zett_zelett | Not sure if I used it since then. |
| 17:31.44 | mtn | zett_zelett: not showing up with lsusb, either |
| 17:31.52 | mtn | zett_zelett: maybe restart using older kernel? |
| 17:32.08 | zett_zelett | I wonder if it is still installed. |
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| 17:32.38 | eptalon | heyas |
| 17:33.10 | earthian | the new apache2 and postfixadmin packages in jessie are incompatible - postfixadmin package places the link to the apache2 configuration in /etc/apache2/conf.d while the new apache expects ../conf-available and ../conf-enabled instead... :/ |
| 17:33.22 | zett_zelett | Okay, I’ll try restarting. |
| 17:33.34 | zett_zelett | Thank you for all so far! |
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| 17:33.55 | lorenzo | hi! |
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| 17:34.11 | lorenzo | I need to connect to a router via parallel port |
| 17:34.16 | wols | earthian: and have you already reported the bug? |
| 17:34.18 | lorenzo | but I can't see any in /dev/lp* |
| 17:34.24 | wols | earthian: and you do know that jessie likes to break things? |
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| 17:34.56 | eptalon | I waned to install a hp printer in cups, but can't seem to find it |
| 17:35.05 | earthian | wols i did not report the bug.. sorry. and yes I know the breaking stuff part too... :( |
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| 17:35.40 | mtn | eptalon: did you install hplip? |
| 17:35.57 | Guest73297 | I just installed my video card driver (non-free ATI radeon 7970) and now there is a large black border surrouning my screne. how can i fix this? |
| 17:36.01 | eptalon | mtn: yes, but it does not list the printer model |
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| 17:36.19 | wols | Guest73297: connected via hdmi? |
| 17:36.22 | zett_zelett | Doesn't work with the old kernel either. |
| 17:36.25 | mtn | eptalon: you may have to choose one that is close to the model number you have |
| 17:36.32 | Guest73297 | yes, connected via hdmi |
| 17:36.38 | zett_zelett | With which it definitely has worked before. |
| 17:37.00 | wols | Guest73297: google for amd overscan linux then. don't have the problem myself but that's what it is |
| 17:37.02 | mtn | zett_zelett: loose connection, faulty hardware perhaps |
| 17:37.09 | Guest73297 | thank you!! |
| 17:38.02 | zett_zelett | I also noticed that before I was rebooting the first time today, I had /dev/video listed. |
| 17:38.11 | zett_zelett | But since then, it didn't appear. |
| 17:38.24 | eptalon | mtn: Laserjet color pro 475dw |
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| 17:38.58 | zett_zelett | Assuming this is not about faulty hardware, does this give me any information? |
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| 17:39.18 | cyr | hello all |
| 17:39.20 | cyr | http://slashdot.org/submission/3377001/four-people-decided-the-fate-of-debian-with-systemd-bad-faith-likely |
| 17:40.20 | mtn | zett_zelett: you can also check support for it on the hplip website |
| 17:40.29 | mtn | zett_zelett: sorry, not for you |
| 17:40.43 | mtn | eptalon: you can also check support for it on the hplip website |
| 17:41.25 | zett_zelett | Maybe there is a bios option or something I accidentily have changed (I disabled fingerprint with rebooting). |
| 17:41.39 | zett_zelett | I’ll have a look at this. |
| 17:41.42 | eptalon | mtn: its downloading a plugin |
| 17:42.09 | ZitZ | exit |
| 17:42.14 | ZitZ | sorry |
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| 17:42.59 | petn-randall | !ops cyr on #debian-next please |
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| 17:43.36 | babilen | petn-randall: Huh? |
| 17:44.22 | Okee | Is there anyone on here who is working on Open Printing? There is an urgent need for a printer driver that will work with Samsung ML2510. Supposedly the Splix driver works, but I couldn't get things working. And the Samsung driver won't install, and is a big mess. |
| 17:44.48 | Okee | Seems like some of my messages are getting cut off during a post. |
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| 17:45.13 | petn-randall | babilen: #debian-offtopic, sorry |
| 17:45.17 | Okee | I am wondering if there is anyone on here who is working on Open Printing Drivers? I can't get the Samsung ML2510 to work. |
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| 17:47.40 | ompaul | Okee: what version of debian |
| 17:47.55 | zett_zelett | Yeah,, wasn’t a bios option either. So probably this is hardware failure or a loose connection. |
| 17:47.56 | Okee | ompaul> Debian stable |
| 17:48.01 | eptalon | mtn: worked, hp-setup <ip-of-printer> |
| 17:48.04 | zett_zelett | So be it, I hardly used it anyway. |
| 17:48.08 | mtn | eptalon: nice |
| 17:48.12 | zett_zelett | Thanks to you all! |
| 17:48.36 | eptalon | mtn: Checking if a printer is supported pays off |
| 17:48.38 | ompaul | Okee: the result of cat /etc/debian_version (stable is a name that changes over time) |
| 17:48.51 | mtn | eptalon: :) |
| 17:48.59 | zett_zelett | Well, mtn and Hans-Martin actually, I believe. |
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| 17:49.22 | zett_zelett | Anyway, thanks. Cya. |
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| 17:50.09 | ompaul | Okee: ? |
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| 17:50.44 | Okee | ompaul> On my computer, it says jessie/sid, but sid was never intended to be on my computer. A couple of sid programs were accidentally installed from sid, and it has created problems. Any Idea how to get rid of sid? Without doing a fresh install? |
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| 17:51.46 | Okee | ompaul> It should say wheazy. |
| 17:51.46 | ompaul | Okee: two things I made that printer work with wheezy (same way for jessie would work) you can't downgrade from sid you could do something to make it turn into testing over time |
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| 17:52.02 | ompaul | Okee: sorry, it says wheezy sid? |
| 17:52.41 | Okee | ompaul> No it says jessie/sid. And I would like to downgrade to testing, so that it is closer to wheazy. Wheazy is really what I want. |
| 17:52.52 | ompaul | Okee: wheezy is a reinstall |
| 17:53.09 | Okee | ompaul> So what could I do to downgrade to testing? |
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| 17:53.44 | ompaul | Okee: testing if you want to live with it (it is called testing for a reason ... ) edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change sid to wheezy |
| 17:54.14 | ompaul | Okee: if you want to you can paste into http://paste.debian.net the contents of that file and I'll have a look at it for you |
| 17:54.23 | Okee | ompaul> What had happened was that one of my sources was for sid, and it created some issues. That has since been removed, and I only have wheezy sources in the sources.list |
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| 17:55.00 | ompaul | Okee: so your path is this, (A) you make it a testing box or choice (B) you make it testing - pick one |
| 17:55.29 | val_erie | I installed flashplugin-nonfree in wheezy, but the plugins tab in iceweasel continues to show flash plugin as outdated. The Flash Player version installed : 11.2.202.261 |
| 17:55.32 | ompaul | Okee: your other choice is you reinstall wheezy and don't mess with it :) |
| 17:55.50 | Okee | ompaul> This is what I have in the sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/84773/ |
| 17:56.19 | ompaul | val_erie: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (assuming all else is ok you should be up to date if you have contrib non-free in your sources) |
| 17:56.20 | vimel | val_erie: did you install flash to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins? |
| 17:56.49 | ompaul | Okee: that is what one might call a mess, that is not supportable |
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| 17:57.03 | ompaul | !dotdeb |
| 17:57.04 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
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| 17:57.44 | ompaul | Okee: if you want to make it work you can on debian, it's not that hard but these "preconfigure it all tools" tend to be a crime against good administration |
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| 17:58.10 | Okee | ompaul> Yes, it did create some problems, but I have fixed many of them. I figured the worst that could happen is that I need to remove unsupported dependencies. |
| 17:58.11 | ompaul | Okee: with that in mind, I guess you need to do a fresh install, however about the printer allow me to tell you how to fix that |
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| 17:58.29 | ompaul | Okee: not open to discussion, I'll tell you about the printer |
| 17:59.00 | ompaul | Okee: there is a file on the disk that comes with the printer, it has in it the tool to use for debian - frankly it is a messy tool and I couldn't get it to work BUT |
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| 17:59.01 | alternative5 | hello, do you know how can I make a bootable usb with debian testing from windows? |
| 17:59.07 | Okee | ompaul> So how to I get the printer work? I currently have the splix driver installed, but the only driver that shows up is open printing. |
| 17:59.23 | wols | alternative5: win32diskimager. all the data on the usb stick will be lost |
| 17:59.30 | vimel | alternative5: format your USB drive to fat32 and use unetbootin. |
| 17:59.34 | wols | alternative5: you should not install from debian testing isos. ever |
| 17:59.42 | wols | alternative5: ignore vimel |
| 17:59.45 | wols | !unetbootin |
| 17:59.46 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 17:59.46 | ompaul | Okee: install cups and get the disk - inside the files for linux you will find two things somewhere (it was kind of obvious as I recall) |
| 17:59.59 | vimel | it works fine for me. |
| 18:00.14 | alternative5 | I tried unetbootin and imagewriter, both did not wok |
| 18:00.19 | wols | vimel: in half the cases it doesn't. which is why it's a bad idea |
| 18:00.24 | Okee | ompaul> Not sure what you mean by disk. Are you referring to a disk that came with the printer? |
| 18:00.26 | ompaul | Okee: one is a filter for cups and the other is a ppd file - put the filter in place (a quick web search) |
| 18:00.37 | ompaul | Okee: yes - but it is also in the download from samsung |
| 18:00.45 | alternative5 | It ask me for the cd |
| 18:01.04 | wols | yes that's a typical unetbootin problem. use win32diskimager |
| 18:01.06 | ompaul | Okee: I had to install it for the chairman of our company - yes he is over 70s and uses wheezy ;-) |
| 18:01.07 | alternative5 | *cd modules |
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| 18:01.39 | vimel | wols: good to know. i hear that a lot but i really think it has to do with formatting to fat32 initially. |
| 18:01.43 | ompaul | Okee: so the ppd file is part of the install a new printer script anyway with both of those in place it worked |
| 18:01.45 | Okee | ompaul> I think cups is already installed, but the printer does not work: http://paste.debian.net/84775/ |
| 18:01.48 | alternative5 | wols I have just test netinstall with imagewriter |
| 18:02.04 | vimel | alternative5: this tool seems to work for windows im not sure about linux. however an ISO is an ISO. you may want to try it. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/html/pbPage.Help_Win7_usbdvd_dwnTool |
| 18:02.08 | wols | alternative5: what is the download link for this "imagewriter"? |
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| 18:02.18 | ompaul | Okee: the filter file is also needed perhaps you should look at what I said - two files PPD and FILTER file - have a poke around |
| 18:02.23 | wols | vimel: more bad advice. just stop |
| 18:02.38 | wols | vimel: an IOS is not an ISO. debian uses a hybrid ISO which is a different thing |
| 18:02.42 | ompaul | Okee: and stay away from splix other than to give you the bits you want |
| 18:02.47 | val_erie | ompaul, I did that and plugin is still showing in browser as outdated |
| 18:03.28 | alternative5 | vimel : win7 or 8 only ; wols http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ |
| 18:03.50 | wols | alternative5: and on what hardware did you try it? |
| 18:04.10 | wols | alternative5: and as I told you: never ever use the testing installer. |
| 18:04.24 | Okee | ompaul> It looks like the ppd file is already installed: http://paste.debian.net/84778/ |
| 18:04.45 | alternative5 | wols: Do you think that image writer + wheezy will boot? |
| 18:05.02 | Okee | ompaul> I thought the splix driver was installed, but I don't find it with the whereis command |
| 18:05.19 | ompaul | Okee: given your box is a mess don't try to fix that printer now |
| 18:05.50 | Okee | ompaul> What did you mean by downgrading from sid, to testing? How do You do it? |
| 18:05.57 | Okee | I want to get sid off of here. |
| 18:05.58 | ompaul | Okee: splix might work straight from the start but you want to just go into the file that you get and pull those things out - why, that is all the splix tool does |
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| 18:06.10 | ompaul | Okee: you can't downgrade that mess |
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| 18:06.33 | wols | alternative5: it does boot. the installer wants the cd later. different thing. you can also try a Debian Live CD and write it to usb with YUMI. it includes a debian netinst |
| 18:06.37 | ompaul | Okee: it's got broken and crimes against the file system written all over it |
| 18:07.17 | ompaul | Okee: fresh install and carry with you this advice ask before you do, when you break a computer you get to keep all the pieces |
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| 18:07.43 | alternative5 | wols : but I want testing, debian live cd I think is only wheezy |
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| 18:07.59 | Okee | ompaul> I don't know what you mean by pull that file out. What file are you referring to? I don't find splix on this computer, with the whereis command. |
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| 18:08.06 | val_erie | vimel, I did not install flash from adobe. I installed debian flashplugin-nonfree and it is installed in /usr/lib/. There is a link in mozilla/plugins flash-mozilla.so -> /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so and the there is a link in /etc/alternatives flash-mozilla.so -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
| 18:08.18 | wols | alternative5: yes. but you do never install testing directly. you switch to it after installing. if you don't know how to do that, then testing is not really for you |
| 18:08.24 | ompaul | Okee: you get the driver file, you open it up, you take out PPD and filter files |
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| 18:08.46 | ompaul | Okee: you then figure out where in your cups files filters go |
| 18:08.52 | ompaul | Okee: and you can work from there |
| 18:09.05 | alternative5 | wols : sources,list change to testing and dist-upgrade |
| 18:09.12 | ompaul | Okee: no point in doing anything until you reinstall anyhow |
| 18:10.01 | Okee | ompaul> I don't see why a reinstall is necessary. Except for an issue with nginx and apache, everything else appears to be working. |
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| 18:11.09 | ompaul | Okee: we don't support dotdeb |
| 18:11.24 | ompaul | Okee: or any possible ramifications up to and broken boxes |
| 18:11.52 | ompaul | Okee: and you have some other random repo in there - so game over get a fresh cd reinstall and get on with your life |
| 18:12.13 | ompaul | Okee: and ask here about the "debian way" of doing whatever it is you want to achieve |
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| 18:12.23 | Okee | ompaul> What do you mean by take out PPD and filter files? Do they need to be deleted? |
| 18:12.46 | ompaul | Okee: what is the problem with the previous comments I made about them. |
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| 18:13.12 | ompaul | Okee: Take from driver. Use on your computer. |
| 18:13.28 | ompaul | really doesn't see where the problem is |
| 18:14.48 | Okee | ompaul> One last question: can splix and cups be installed on the same computer? Do they show up as menu options? |
| 18:15.05 | Okee | Although I don't find splix with the whereis, apt-get does show them. |
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| 18:15.25 | ompaul | Okee: I think you need to read this: http://debian-handbook.info/ |
| 18:15.42 | ompaul | Okee: it's not windows - its to put the stuff into cups |
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| 18:16.01 | Okee | ompaul> Ok, thanks |
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| 18:39.38 | Sbroker | Hi from Spain julandrones anglo hablantes |
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| 18:40.12 | bullgard4 | !es |
| 18:40.12 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 18:48.28 | UserError | How do I start a script or program after the lightdm login? |
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| 18:48.31 | UserError | for all users |
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| 18:50.45 | Sbroker | bullgard4, dont you undestand "Hi from SPain"? |
| 18:50.59 | Sbroker | or are you sptupid ? |
| 18:51.10 | wols | !es |
| 18:51.10 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 18:51.34 | Sbroker | lol how many trolls are here ? |
| 18:52.10 | pchr8 | Hello, I'm trying to remap my right alt key to backspace, but I can't get the keycode from xev, which reports just focusout events and keymapnotify which I can't read. Showkey from tty gives me keycode 100, but I still can't use it via that code, all I get is that the window loses focus. Any ideas? |
| 18:52.49 | wols | Sbroker: do you have a debian related support problem? |
| 18:53.08 | UserError | i do |
| 18:53.11 | wols | Sbroker: best read the wallmsg you got when you entered the channel |
| 18:53.19 | pchr8 | (here's what xev gives me when I press right alt: http://pastebin.com/Gk0NeM2U) |
| 18:53.28 | Sbroker | are you bored ? |
| 18:53.29 | wols | UserError: unfortunately I don't know everything. But I'm working on it :P |
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| 18:53.36 | UserError | :P |
| 18:53.55 | Sbroker | Go to the cinema |
| 18:54.00 | jhutchins | pchr8: Keys like Alt are frequently modifier as opposed to signalers. They cause other keys to send a different keycode when held down. |
| 18:54.08 | Sbroker | ando dont touch my "moral" |
| 18:54.08 | socomm | bullgard4: its on the man page, I think in the 2nd paragraph |
| 18:54.12 | jhutchins | pchr8: They don't send a signal on their own. |
| 18:54.15 | Sbroker | and dont touch my "moral" |
| 18:54.25 | wols | UserError: maybe use a custom .xinitrc in /etc/skel and add it to your existing users manually. make it run whatever you need and the start the WM/DE basically. very hackish however |
| 18:54.57 | martianlobster | I want to remove all the files in fglrx-lib from my hard drive. apt-get remove --purge didnt do that. What should I do? |
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| 18:55.17 | UserError | i know but i have to do it for all users |
| 18:55.18 | wols | martianlobster: how did you install fglrx-lib? |
| 18:55.42 | wols | martianlobster: it's not a debian package for certain. what distro do you run? |
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| 18:55.56 | martianlobster | wols apt-get install |
| 18:55.57 | wols | UserError: you are the admin. you can access their ~, just do it :) |
| 18:56.08 | wols | martianlobster: not from debian, you didn't. there is no such package afaik |
| 18:56.12 | wols | ,v fglrx-lib |
| 18:56.13 | judd | No package named 'fglrx-lib' was found in i386. |
| 18:56.18 | martianlobster | wols 7.3 debian |
| 18:56.36 | wols | martianlobster: no you did not. there is no such package. you installed unsupported 3rd party stuff from god knows where |
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| 18:57.04 | wols | ah, you either run ubuntu or used their packages |
| 18:57.34 | pchr8 | jhutchins: but I am able to change like that keys like ctrl, shift, tab and left alt |
| 18:57.55 | martianlobster | ohhhh maybe I added an ubuntu server to my sources.list file |
| 18:58.14 | wols | martianlobster: what makes you think it didn't remove everything? |
| 18:58.16 | pchr8 | only modifier key that doesn`t send a signal by its own is fn. And xev reacts to l_alt by itself |
| 18:58.38 | bullgard4 | socomm: I think you are referring to this sentence: " When the local system reboots, the sm-notify command notifies the NSM service on monitored peers of the reboot." - Thank you. |
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| 18:58.59 | martianlobster | wols: I still see the files on my hard drive |
| 18:59.35 | tapout | I've got 100,000 files.. in each file, there are 1m rows lets say. Is there a way to keep 10 parallel invocations of an app with one filename as a param in parallel? like... keepbusy -j 10 -exec ./script.pl {} .. kinda thing? |
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| 18:59.47 | wols | martianlobster: pastebin the content of /var/lib/dpkg/info/fglrx-lib*.list |
| 18:59.50 | tapout | I typically use Parallel::ForkManager, but i suspect there is something in linux that does this already |
| 18:59.55 | wols | martianlobster: and the output of "dpkg -l|grep fglrx" |
| 19:00.09 | frostschutz | tapout, xargs |
| 19:00.35 | martianlobster | wols I will need a bit to get organized |
| 19:00.43 | tapout | ahh right |
| 19:00.50 | wols | !tell martianlobster about nopaste |
| 19:00.55 | tapout | i'll have to read up on the xargs syntax, thx buddy |
| 19:00.56 | wols | you can do it in 20 seconds flat |
| 19:01.02 | martianlobster | you might be right, maybe it did remove those files |
| 19:01.21 | martianlobster | wols I knw, pasebin |
| 19:01.48 | Sbroker | is a good perfomance with a owner driver ??? |
| 19:01.50 | Sbroker | ade@AMDX64PII955BE:~$ fgl_glxgears |
| 19:01.51 | Sbroker | Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer |
| 19:02.06 | Sbroker | 4288 frames in 5.0 seconds = 857.600 FPS |
| 19:02.06 | Sbroker | 4371 frames in 5.0 seconds = 874.200 FPS |
| 19:02.06 | Sbroker | 4323 frames in 5.0 seconds = 864.600 FPS |
| 19:02.19 | wols | do not paste into the channel Sbroker |
| 19:02.20 | jhutchins | pchr8: Just a possibility. I don't know why yours works the way it does. |
| 19:02.20 | Sbroker | 5670 hd |
| 19:03.09 | Sbroker | wols, pfff four lines.... |
| 19:03.15 | Sbroker | not a page.. |
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| 19:05.18 | Sbroker | wols, are you the police or the moderator ? |
| 19:05.26 | wols | !tell Sbroker about paste |
| 19:05.50 | wols | no I'm not the moderator. but I know a troll when I see one. please go to #debian-offtopic for your social interaction needs. thank you |
| 19:06.00 | Sbroker | pffff |
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| 19:07.31 | pchr8 | jhutchins: Fluxbox was eating that keypress since it was part of a keystroke I'd forgotten about, now fixed. :) |
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| 19:08.37 | Sbroker | ./ignore dpkg |
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| 19:08.59 | Sbroker | and now use de quotte with the boot wols |
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| 19:11.41 | earthian | do you think I could debootstrap wheezy inside the root of a running jessie and get away with it (eg. not break it)? |
| 19:12.24 | earthian | otherwise I think I would need to flash USB stick, find a hdmi monitor and try a fresh install...which is not possible today :S |
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| 19:12.44 | wols | earthian: no. you cannot downgrade, especially not automatically |
| 19:12.57 | earthian | not downgrade. but replace..overwrite |
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| 19:13.21 | wols | this will be a downgrade. it will not overwrite: the installer uses apt itself. |
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| 19:13.29 | wols | well dpkg |
| 19:14.04 | earthian | I am thinking of dd the root partition, then remove everything there, then debootstrap wheezy there and then dd the partition back to root and reboot :D |
| 19:14.45 | wols | you cannot start any program after you dd the rootpartition. not debootstrap either |
| 19:15.16 | wols | well, after you "remove everything" rather |
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| 19:16.06 | earthian | err.. I meant dd if=/dev/root of=/someplace/root.img then mount root.img, do stuff and then dd if=root.img of=/dev/root |
| 19:19.52 | Brigo | earthian, i think you first need to create a new image. |
| 19:20.15 | Brigo | earthian, but i am not sure, you cant try and tell us :-) |
| 19:20.23 | Brigo | can* |
| 19:20.26 | earthian | hmm.. ok |
| 19:20.39 | earthian | i thought somebody would have tried this already and burned :D |
| 19:21.43 | Brigo | earthian, there is a "debian way": http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-initramfs.html |
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| 19:29.00 | earthian | hmm.. my dd of the root partition made an image (18gb).. the filesystem had some ugly errors :( |
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| 19:45.57 | boudiccas | i'm running a rsync programme from a cronjob, which is logged, but how can i get it to tell me how much it has transferred please? |
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| 19:47.36 | martianlobster | cdrm is there na how to somewhere on upgrading to unstable? |
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| 19:54.05 | martianlobster | wols are you here? http://pastie.org/8815453 |
| 19:54.43 | martianlobster | nopaste is a nice app |
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| 19:58.30 | martianlobster | what is the default kernel version for wheezy7.3? |
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| 20:00.29 | centrx | martines, Probably 3.2 |
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| 20:01.19 | martianlobster | thanks |
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| 20:02.50 | martianlobster | does anyone know the kernel version for unstable? |
| 20:03.06 | centrx | 3.13 |
| 20:03.11 | martianlobster | thanks |
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| 20:03.46 | martianlobster | could someone point me to a tutorial on how to upgrade to unstable, google has my head spinning |
| 20:04.23 | Nik05 | if you dont know how to even remotely do it, stay with stable :P |
| 20:04.31 | centrx | If you can't figure it out, you shouldn't do it |
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| 20:06.18 | martianlobster | well this is what I have used in the past. This is how I got to 7.3 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-uptodate.en.html |
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| 20:07.08 | martianlobster | do I just change wheezy to unstable in my sources.list file, and do the same thing? |
| 20:07.16 | centrx | Why do you want to use unstable? |
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| 20:07.46 | martianlobster | to get the 7.13 kernel, and the latest fglrx drivers |
| 20:07.52 | martianlobster | I have new hardware |
| 20:08.04 | martianlobster | had to manually compile 3.10 to get my nick working |
| 20:08.16 | martianlobster | but the fglrx in stable, expects the 3.2 header files, and won't compile |
| 20:08.30 | martianlobster | hoping 3.13 with the unstable fglrx, will solve every thing |
| 20:08.37 | petn-randall | martianlobster: Have you tried backports? |
| 20:08.57 | martianlobster | no |
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| 20:11.10 | earthian | I have done deboostrapping debian wheezy but installing kernel and grub is not very nice: http://paste.debian.net/84811/ should I be worried? should I retry? |
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| 20:12.01 | centrx | earthian, Do you need LVM? |
| 20:12.12 | earthian | centrx, no |
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| 20:13.32 | earthian | the problem is with grub-pc (lines 121-122) I think and in lines 105-108 |
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| 20:14.06 | earthian | am I supposed to install grub in a chroot? |
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| 20:14.55 | agustin_ | hello. sorry for my bad english. debian autorreme want to delete essentials pakages from my system, what can I do? |
| 20:15.39 | earthian | agustin_, which package exactly? |
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| 20:16.42 | agustin_ | earthian : http://pastebin.com/7F811w50 |
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| 20:17.51 | earthian | agustin_, what are you trying to do? |
| 20:18.14 | agustin_ | earthian : I installed debian with xfce, then I installed mate and removed xfce |
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| 20:18.22 | Nik05 | agustin_: those are not essential |
| 20:18.51 | earthian | yes. those are not essential then if you are removing xfce. |
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| 20:19.12 | agustin_ | but It wants to delete xorg |
| 20:19.38 | Nik05 | apt-mark manual xorg ;) |
| 20:20.02 | agustin_ | Nik05 : thanks you very much |
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| 20:20.25 | earthian | or apt-get install xorg and it should mark it as manually installed... nevertheless it should not remove it if you have another desktop environment.. |
| 20:20.34 | earthian | maybe mate has it's own xorg server? |
| 20:20.48 | earthian | p.s. i do not know what mate is :/ |
| 20:20.58 | Nik05 | gnome2 fork or something |
| 20:21.04 | earthian | ic |
| 20:21.14 | agustin_ | yes, a gnome 2 fork |
| 20:21.32 | Nik05 | agustin_: what package is mate in? |
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| 20:22.59 | agustin_ | mate is being ported to debian, not all pakages are ready. while is being ported I need to use a externar repository |
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| 20:23.28 | Nik05 | well now you know why xorg is being autoremoved |
| 20:24.08 | earthian | http://paste.debian.net/84815/ is blocking installation of final system inside a chroot after debootstrap of wheezy under jessie.. any ideas what's happening? |
| 20:24.09 | boudiccas | agustin_; since when? i installed MATE on this jessie box at least 6 weeks ago! |
| 20:24.53 | mauww | hello can sb help me to install on wheezy the latest nvidia-glx, im running on 304 but theres already 331 out.. im tried it thru -t wheezy-backports but it says that the packages are to the newest versions -.- |
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| 20:25.51 | agustin_ | boudiccas : http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2013-11-08-debian-mate-packaging-team/ |
| 20:26.11 | earthian | also this http://paste.debian.net/84816/ |
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| 20:27.06 | musca | ,v nvidia-driver --release wheezy-backports |
| 20:27.07 | judd | Package: nvidia-driver on i386 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.82-1~bpo70+1 |
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| 20:27.26 | voyo | hi. Im doing dist-upgrade, from squezzy to stable. Im very tight on space, so it makes me very upset and forced to step here to irc to complain... http://pastebin.com/kYe0q33X |
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| 20:27.48 | musca | mauww: ^^ would you like this 319? |
| 20:27.52 | voyo | I dont have any X11 related things installed... wtf :/ |
| 20:27.55 | agustin_ | earthian : I don't know if this is related about that, when I installed debian (xfce live) the installer don't let me install grub. I uses super grub disk to boot debian and then install it from aptitude |
| 20:28.09 | agustin_ | *used |
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| 20:28.18 | centrx | voyo, Try running apt-get autoclean to clear up some space |
| 20:28.47 | voyo | centrx: you mean autoremove , I did already. |
| 20:28.51 | mauww | musca: yea, at least ... |
| 20:28.57 | centrx | voyo, I mean autoclean |
| 20:29.14 | Nik05 | and maybe clean too |
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| 20:29.33 | dgeary2 | where to find documentation on configuring gdm3 session chooser? i want to change the default session for new users to 'gnome classic'. |
| 20:29.45 | voyo | ok. did clean, did autoremove, now did also autoclean (nothing more happend). |
| 20:30.11 | Nik05 | but why would all those new packages be installed if you just do an upgrade? |
| 20:30.18 | voyo | question is why this stupid system is going to install so many UNESCESARRY packages ?? |
| 20:30.28 | mauww | musca: but it doesnt install 319 |
| 20:30.32 | monkwitdafunk | hi debian channel. does anybody know the diffrence between the kernel.org version and the bittorrent version of knoppix the debian derivative? it seems the kernel.org version needs root access to mount partitions maybe |
| 20:31.02 | musca | mauww: did you add a "deb-line to your sources list for backports? |
| 20:31.39 | voyo | any1 any idea ? |
| 20:31.55 | centrx | voyo, Try configuring apt with: Install-Recommends "false"; |
| 20:32.02 | earthian | hmm... i just did exit twice and it worked... how did I manage to get into a chroot twice? :/ |
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| 20:32.26 | mauww | musca: yea, deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main |
| 20:32.47 | musca | nvidia is non-free :) |
| 20:33.03 | mauww | lol omg M( |
| 20:33.06 | mauww | thx |
| 20:33.28 | centrx | voyo, And figure out what is depending on those X packages, with apt-cache rdepends |
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| 20:34.30 | voyo | centrx : ok, good point, I will. but why this stupid system is proposing me to install so many new packages ! I will loose my trust in debian this way :/ |
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| 20:35.27 | centrx | voyo, They may be "Recommends" packages that are not truly necessary. Over-depending with Recommends is a problem with many packages. Install-Recommends "false"; |
| 20:36.12 | voyo | APT::Install-Recommends "false"; APT::Install-Suggests "false"; - dist-upgrade now wants only 24Mb. no new packages.. |
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| 20:36.40 | voyo | Im disappointed on new debian :/ |
| 20:36.54 | musca | there are also packages that clearly don't work without their recommends. |
| 20:37.05 | earthian | voyo if you have plenty of ram, you can temporarily mount the apt package cashe into ramfs |
| 20:37.06 | musca | feel free to report bugs. |
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| 20:37.28 | centrx | I have used Install-Recommends "false" for many years. Never a problem |
| 20:37.49 | voyo | earthian : I had already mount //var/cache/apt/archives to nfs storage to perform this upgrade.. |
| 20:38.00 | earthian | :/ |
| 20:38.16 | earthian | where are you installing this debian? pocket calculator? :o) |
| 20:38.32 | voyo | centrx : this is first time I have to alter apt config for this :/ |
| 20:38.47 | centrx | voyo, Just do it on all your installations and you will be happy |
| 20:39.09 | voyo | earthian : no. just router. with some extras. 1Gb CF card. since few years it was always enough... |
| 20:39.22 | earthian | i see |
| 20:39.34 | centrx | voyo, Also use deborphan to find packages you may be able to delete |
| 20:39.50 | voyo | centrx : yeah, did that already. |
| 20:39.52 | centrx | voyo, Use cruft to find unclaimed files |
| 20:40.08 | voyo | cruft ? new for me, will check out |
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| 20:41.52 | voyo | any debian dev here ? please keep it simple... thats they way debian was following all the time so far. dont step to the wrong path... |
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| 20:42.27 | Jobbe | aint there a newerr version of live-magic |
| 20:43.03 | centrx | voyo, File bugs and cite https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps |
| 20:43.06 | musca | ,v live-magic |
| 20:43.08 | judd | Package: live-magic on i386 -- squeeze: 1.13 |
| 20:43.23 | musca | Jobbe: nope :-/ |
| 20:43.26 | Jobbe | musca: just downloaded it off debian site |
| 20:43.27 | Jobbe | damn |
| 20:43.34 | Jobbe | would have been awesome to make a live iso |
| 20:43.39 | Jobbe | just boot off it |
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| 20:43.48 | Jobbe | then when changes was needed, create new and boot |
| 20:43.52 | Jobbe | noone could change my system |
| 20:44.44 | musca | !live |
| 20:44.44 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 20:44.58 | dgeary2 | answering my own question, 'man gnome-session'. |
| 20:45.17 | Jobbe | musca: want a custom live :P |
| 20:45.29 | musca | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. |
| 20:45.40 | musca | and allows creation of your own. |
| 20:45.42 | musca | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.02 | Jobbe | ah |
| 20:46.03 | Jobbe | nice |
| 20:47.25 | voyo | centrx : yeah, I think I should try that too.. however I have bad experience interacting with opensource devs. usually their represent very autocrative approach :P |
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| 20:49.46 | marino3 | hello, can you help me how can I set cron a task every 15 mins? |
| 20:50.02 | Jobbe | open the crontab editor: crontab -e |
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| 20:51.08 | Jobbe | */15 * * * * /path/to/script |
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| 20:51.11 | Jobbe | add that line |
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| 20:51.56 | voyo | marino3 : add line - */15 * * * * path-to-run |
| 20:52.10 | voyo | btw - man 5 crontab |
| 20:52.22 | voyo | you have examples there too |
| 20:52.23 | marino3 | add line - */15 * * * * sh '/home/javier/Scripts/trim.sh' this is right? |
| 20:52.57 | marino3 | sorry, */15 * * * * sh '/home/javier/Scripts/trim.sh' ? |
| 20:53.05 | Jobbe | yes |
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| 20:53.17 | marino3 | thanks |
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| 20:55.00 | earthian | grub-probe is stupid... or I am blind and ls is a liar :( |
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| 20:56.49 | voyo | brrr. now Im affraid to reboot my router after this dist-upgrade... :/ |
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| 21:03.21 | chrisirc_ | Hello. Once upon a time, there was a "bfr" command in Debian. |
| 21:03.45 | chrisirc_ | Which was used in pipe lines as a buffer of configurable size. |
| 21:04.00 | chrisirc_ | Like "producer | bfr | consumer". |
| 21:04.14 | chrisirc_ | How comes that's not there anymore and which replacements are there? |
| 21:04.41 | OpenTokix | chrisirc_: what is the thing you want it to do? |
| 21:04.54 | OpenTokix | chrisirc_: to limit speed of pipes? |
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| 21:05.19 | earthian | pv shows progress bar of pipes... |
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| 21:05.35 | chrisirc_ | OpenTokix, to make "mencoder -o - | mplayer -" work. |
| 21:05.55 | OpenTokix | chrisirc_: ok? And it dont work because of ?? |
| 21:06.23 | chrisirc_ | Because mencoder seems to be unable to write when it wants to, because mplayer blocks at that time, I guess. |
| 21:06.28 | chrisirc_ | That makes it choppy. |
| 21:06.30 | OpenTokix | chrisirc_: cpipe can be used to limit pipe |
| 21:06.33 | OpenTokix | chrisirc_: maybe cpipe? |
| 21:06.47 | OpenTokix | you can specify a buffer and and such |
| 21:06.59 | rryoumaa | chrisirc_: buffer |
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| 21:07.19 | chrisirc_ | Aha, missed 'buffer', thanks! |
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| 21:09.34 | chrisirc_ | OpenTokix, btw, correct english is "And it doesn't work because of?" |
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| 21:10.31 | OpenTokix | chrisirc_: *taking some notes of this valubale information* |
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| 21:17.57 | chrisirc_ | It's valuable to try to write properly, if only because other people may be trying to learn. |
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| 21:18.47 | chrisirc_ | Also, no sacrasm warranted, I didn't seed any, OpenTokix. |
| 21:18.53 | chrisirc_ | sarcasm even |
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| 21:29.20 | Bublik2002 | i just installed plexmediaserver but when i navigate to http://localhost:32400/manage/index.html it says page not found.. can someone help please |
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| 21:29.52 | lorenzo | chrisirc_, apt-get install buffer |
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| 21:30.04 | lorenzo | producer | buffer | consumer |
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| 21:36.34 | chrisirc_ | lorenzo, yes, rryoumaa has mentioned it already. Thanks anyway! |
| 21:37.04 | lorenzo | ah, there have been so many join/parts that I hadn't read the logs |
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| 21:48.34 | neo1691 | I cannot setup mpd or ncmcpp. I have created all the state, pid, db files in .mpd. Set it up accordingly in /etc/mpd.conf. I have also set the user option as my user. and commented out the group option. Yet when I restart the mpd service, it fails! |
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| 21:49.01 | neo1691 | Saying that the Address is already in use |
| 21:49.16 | neo1691 | And when I start ncmpcpp it is just blank! |
| 21:50.05 | xBytez | hi there, i am trying to install debian off of a CD and durin the installation it seems to just start flashing at me? i dont have any idea what its doing any help please? |
| 21:50.15 | petn-randall | neo1691: "address already in use" is an indication that the interface/port combo is already taken by some other application. Check with 'netstat -npl' if there is something on said port. |
| 21:50.42 | petn-randall | xBytez: What do you mean with flashing? |
| 21:50.59 | xBytez | my screen, just flashes black and white kinda... |
| 21:51.28 | xBytez | i dont know how to explain it ... it just flashes. |
| 21:51.37 | neo1691 | petn-randall: The port number is there but there is no process/pid. It's marked with - |
| 21:52.05 | neo1691 | xBytez: Maybe you can post a pic somewhere! And share the link here? |
| 21:52.09 | petn-randall | neo1691: As root it'll tell you more. |
| 21:52.17 | xBytez | ah I'll take a picture |
| 21:52.37 | petn-randall | xBytez: It could be a problem with your graphics card. What model/make is the computer? |
| 21:52.42 | neo1691 | petn-randall: mpd! mpd is already running |
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| 21:53.20 | xBytez | petn-randall: HP Compaq DC7600 |
| 21:54.04 | neo1691 | I guess it was running when the mpd.conf has the option user to "user", and I changed that to my username! |
| 21:54.18 | neo1691 | maybe that's what is causing the problem |
| 21:54.27 | zykotick9 | neo1691: ".. created all the state, pid, db files .." so, you're not using the debian package i take it? |
| 21:54.33 | bullgard4 | Debian wheezy installs an operating system user »statd« if you install NFS3. Why is that necessary? |
| 21:55.06 | petn-randall | bullgard4: NFS server or client? |
| 21:55.29 | neo1691 | zykotick9: I am using the debian package. I create those files under my home folder in .mpd directory |
| 21:55.40 | bullgard4 | petn-randall: At least on client. Let me check for server. |
| 21:56.22 | zykotick9 | neo1691: that shouldn't be required. BUT, if you're trying to run mpd as a different user (not sure why...) then maybe you do. well, best of luck. |
| 21:57.27 | zykotick9 | neo1691: fyi, i "aptitude install mpd ncmpcpp" adjust path in mpd.conf, restart service, and it works here |
| 21:58.01 | neo1691 | zykotick9: I tried running as defaults. I created a symlink of my Music folder to /var/lib/mpd/music. I will try that again! |
| 21:58.23 | neo1691 | Anyway I can know that all my music has been update in the mpd's database? |
| 21:59.17 | zykotick9 | neo1691: in ncmpcpp use "u" to start the update, then in sorta-realtime you can watch the update in teh other views |
| 21:59.21 | bullgard4 | petn-randall: On server ist is not installed. But the server is a remote machine and no genuine Debian but an ARM Linux. |
| 22:00.17 | neo1691 | zykotick9: Thanks a lot! |
| 22:01.22 | xBytez | Anyone know the issue? |
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| 22:01.59 | bullgard4 | s/ist/it/ |
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| 22:05.43 | xBytez | petn-randall: http://xbytez.eu/img/(I5-2500K)-(01-03-2014)-(23-05-31).png |
| 22:05.48 | xBytez | It just flashes |
| 22:05.53 | petn-randall | bullgard4: It's a limited user to do the RPC calls, so less code is running as root. |
| 22:06.33 | xBytez | after doing this: http://xbytez.eu/img/(I5-2500K)-(01-03-2014)-(23-06-26).png |
| 22:06.35 | xBytez | it just keeps on flashing |
| 22:06.54 | xBytez | when it finished doing that |
| 22:07.58 | petn-randall | xBytez: Does the BIOS, etc. show fine? |
| 22:08.25 | xBytez | yes |
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| 22:10.25 | bullgard4 | petn-randall: I see. - Thank you for your help. |
| 22:10.27 | debihun | hello, I have installed bumblebee from the repos but is not working, can you help me? |
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| 22:11.48 | spinningcompass | Stings, doesn't it? |
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| 22:12.01 | spinningcompass | debihun: What error message does it generate? |
| 22:12.14 | bullgard4 | debihun: "Not working" is a rather wide statement. Please give a more detailed description using command line. |
| 22:12.44 | petn-randall | xBytez: How did you prepare the boot image? |
| 22:12.52 | hassoon | doh..the system was like entirely not responding,until I pushed ctrl alt F1 the resumed the Graphical system with ctrl alt f7 |
| 22:12.53 | xBytez | petn-randall: CD image |
| 22:13.02 | spinningcompass | debihun: Did you follow https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee#Installation ? |
| 22:13.03 | hassoon | i hate those strange freezes :( |
| 22:13.03 | xBytez | PowerISO |
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| 22:15.59 | debihun | spinningcompass : yes. error : [ 53.711468] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver |
| 22:16.32 | spinningcompass | debihun: $ sudo nano /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf .... Replace the line 'Driver=' by 'Driver=nvidia' perhaps |
| 22:16.46 | spinningcompass | Also, try replacing 'KernelDriver=nvidia-current' by 'KernelDriver=nvidia' |
| 22:17.07 | spinningcompass | What is the output of 'optirun glxgears' ? |
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| 22:19.06 | zykotick9 | neo1691: a screencap of this irc chat and my ncmpcpp - TBO the visualization is always off, no matter what update i set :( http://imagebin.org/296553 |
| 22:19.27 | petn-randall | xBytez: I'd expect it to work fine then. Do you at least get to the boot screen of the CD? |
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| 22:20.01 | WilliamDotSI | anyone knows why my logitech kb/mouse combo is not working on wheezy? |
| 22:20.10 | WilliamDotSI | [594769.169167] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: Logitech |
| 22:20.10 | WilliamDotSI | [594769.178803] hid_logitech_dj: Unknown symbol hid_validate_values (err 0) |
| 22:20.12 | xBytez | petn-randall: Yeah. After this ( http://xbytez.eu/img/(I5-2500K)-(01-03-2014)-(23-06-26).png ) hits 100% it starts flashing |
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| 22:21.15 | petn-randall | xBytez: Oh! So you do get fairly far in the installer. I thought it failed to boot. You can start expert mode and just select the modules you need, maybe you'll get further that way. |
| 22:21.39 | petn-randall | xBytez: You can load extra modules one by one in expert mode, so then you'll find out if any of those is the culprit. |
| 22:22.13 | xBytez | Okay! I'll try |
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| 22:22.58 | petn-randall | xBytez: My other thought is that it might be a faulty burn. You can also boot those images from USB stick if you BIOS support it. |
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| 22:25.03 | WilliamDotSI | yep the logitech driver is broken |
| 22:25.08 | WilliamDotSI | does not even register hid device |
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| 22:26.03 | WilliamDotSI | http://paste.debian.net/84823/ |
| 22:26.24 | ruukasu | now that I have a mirror of the debian repo, will running apt-mirror update outdated packages? |
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| 22:29.21 | WilliamDotSI | what do i specify as package in a bug reort |
| 22:29.24 | WilliamDotSI | when its the kernel? |
| 22:30.29 | ruukasu | WilliamDotSI, probably linux-image-version-architecture |
| 22:30.56 | ruukasu | ie linux-image-3.12-1-amd64 |
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| 22:32.20 | WilliamDotSI | ruukasu |
| 22:32.22 | WilliamDotSI | aka: |
| 22:32.23 | WilliamDotSI | Package: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 22:32.23 | WilliamDotSI | Version: 3.2.54-2 |
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| 22:32.30 | ruukasu | yes |
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| 22:36.21 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
| 22:36.27 | neilthereildeil | i installed and then uninstallex xen |
| 22:36.42 | neilthereildeil | but i still have the 'xl' binary in my path |
| 22:36.50 | neilthereildeil | does that mean xen wasnt properly uninstalled? |
| 22:37.17 | neilthereildeil | /usr/local/sbin/xl |
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| 22:38.34 | erlehmann | oh hello there |
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| 22:38.37 | erlehmann | i have a bug reported |
| 22:38.45 | erlehmann | and also a patch for it |
| 22:38.45 | erlehmann | but no one acts on it |
| 22:38.52 | erlehmann | how to proceed? |
| 22:39.06 | erlehmann | it is about this bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739476&archived=False&mbox=no#msg16 |
| 22:39.13 | erlehmann | the patch is really simple |
| 22:39.34 | xBytez | ok, this is going to be a stupid question, what is the remote install SSH user? |
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| 22:39.54 | neilthereildeil | dpkg --search libxenlight doesnt fiind anything |
| 22:39.54 | dpkg | neilthereildeil: no idea |
| 22:40.11 | centrx | erlehmann, Try asking in #debian-python on OFTC |
| 22:40.24 | erlehmann | centrx thx! |
| 22:40.25 | neilthereildeil | dpkg: i would use that to find which package owns that file, right? |
| 22:40.26 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, neilthereildeil |
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| 22:40.33 | neo1691 | zykotick9: Still not working. I purged mpd, reinstalled. mpd service can be easily restarted, but still ncmpcpp blank as ever! |
| 22:40.38 | neilthereildeil | dpkg: lol b0tzz |
| 22:40.38 | dpkg | neilthereildeil: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 22:40.48 | erlehmann | gnome recently took a patch from me only after i reminded them on irc that the patch is there. |
| 22:40.52 | erlehmann | so i'll try here as well |
| 22:40.54 | neo1691 | Can't seem to make mpd and ncmcpp work |
| 22:41.13 | neilthereildeil | any ideas how to completely remove xen, guys? |
| 22:41.26 | neilthereildeil | ldd /usr/local/sbin/xl |
| 22:41.26 | neilthereildeil | linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fff579ff000) |
| 22:41.27 | neilthereildeil | libxlutil.so.4.3 => not found |
| 22:41.27 | neilthereildeil | libxenlight.so.4.3 => /usr/local/lib/libxenlight.so.4.3 (0x00007f8053941000) |
| 22:41.27 | neilthereildeil | libxenctrl.so.4.3 => not found |
| 22:41.27 | neilthereildeil | libyajl.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libyajl.so.2 (0x00007f8053736000) |
| 22:41.27 | neilthereildeil | libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f805351a000) |
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| 22:41.41 | neilthereildeil | sorry |
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| 22:42.14 | neilthereildeil | this is the output of "ldd xl" |
| 22:42.15 | neilthereildeil | http://paste.debian.net/84825/ |
| 22:42.20 | neo1691 | somebody help me setup mpd and ncmcpp please! Can't seem to make it work! |
| 22:42.22 | neilthereildeil | it shows a bunch of xen binaries still installed |
| 22:42.34 | neilthereildeil | although i tried to remove everything related to xen... |
| 22:42.43 | zykotick9 | neo1691: are you still trying to symlink to your music? i know there are a bunch of symlink options in the mpd.conf, i've never had to use any of them... when you press u in ncmpcpp does it say "finished" almost right away, or ever? |
| 22:42.44 | neilthereildeil | how can i remove all these files? |
| 22:42.50 | centrx | neilthereildeil, Use dpkg -S to find what packages they belong to |
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| 22:43.03 | neilthereildeil | yea i did |
| 22:43.08 | neilthereildeil | thats the same as --search |
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| 22:43.22 | neilthereildeil | root@home:/boot/grub# dpkg -S libxenlight |
| 22:43.23 | neilthereildeil | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *libxenlight* |
| 22:43.43 | neilthereildeil | and you can clearly see "libxenlight.so.4.3 => /usr/local/lib/libxenlight.so.4.3 (0x00007f8053941000)" on pastebin |
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| 22:43.47 | neo1691 | zykotick9: No. This time I have given the path to my home Music folder in mpd.conf. And yes. ncmcpp right away finishes updating! In a flash |
| 22:44.18 | zykotick9 | neo1691: so it's NOT updating at all then. probably. |
| 22:44.28 | erlehmann | centrx no one replies there. how can i get commit rights for that package? |
| 22:44.32 | neo1691 | Yes! |
| 22:44.39 | erlehmann | i mean, there is no maintainer |
| 22:44.45 | xBytez | petn-randall: ok, this is going to be a stupid question, what is the remote install SSH user? |
| 22:45.21 | centrx | erlehmann, "Maintainers for python-elixir are Debian Python Modules Team <python-modules-team@lists.alioth.debian.org>" |
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| 22:45.39 | neo1691 | zykotick9: You want to see my mpd.conf? And do I need to make a .ncmpcpp/config in home? |
| 22:45.44 | zykotick9 | neo1691: for the mpd.conf option: music_directory "/srv/flac" < - do you have anything "odd" about that directory? permission, filesystem, wise? |
| 22:45.51 | erlehmann | centrx so just send a mail? |
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| 22:46.46 | centrx | erlehmann, That is another possibility. Waiting only one minute on a Saturday night for an answer in #debian-python is not going to get you anywhere |
| 22:47.01 | centrx | erlehmann, Also, it looks like upstream for elixir is three years dead, so I would recommend moving to something else. |
| 22:47.03 | erlehmann | cantoma ah :D |
| 22:47.04 | neo1691 | zykotick9: Mine is : music_directory"/home/neo1691/Music" |
| 22:47.17 | erlehmann | centrx elixir is done. it works. sometimes software is finished.j |
| 22:47.29 | zykotick9 | neo1691: yes .ncmpcpp setting probably need to be manually done - BUT so long as your mpd server is working/default settings, then ncmpcpp will autoconnect (or should). so, for the time being, don't worry about ncmpcpp settings - get your mpd working first. |
| 22:47.32 | erlehmann | centrx the bug only comes from sqlalchemy renaming a subcomponent. |
| 22:47.32 | erlehmann | that is all |
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| 22:48.03 | neo1691 | anyway to know that mpd is actually scanning the directory? |
| 22:48.05 | zykotick9 | neo1691: is your home directory encrypted in anyway? does the mpd server have permission to access those files? |
| 22:48.08 | erlehmann | centrx i don't think software stops to be useful because it is finished. do you? |
| 22:48.10 | centrx | erlehmann, Then why is there a bug? |
| 22:48.21 | centrx | erlehmann, The software depends on SQLAlchemy. SQLAlchemy has had a lot of changes. |
| 22:48.33 | centrx | erlehmann, So it is not like tex, for example, which is freestanding |
| 22:48.42 | neo1691 | zykotick9: In mpd.conf, there is one option user and it is set to "mpd" |
| 22:48.50 | erlehmann | centrx i'll be happy to fix that and all other bugs. |
| 22:48.59 | centrx | erlehmann, Take over upstream :) |
| 22:49.05 | erlehmann | except the one with database encryption |
| 22:49.08 | erlehmann | that is stupid |
| 22:49.22 | zykotick9 | neo1691: right, so can "mpd" as a user, get access to the files in /home/YOURUSER/Music type thing? |
| 22:49.23 | erlehmann | centrx to fix the upstream, i must *become* the upstream? |
| 22:49.24 | erlehmann | :DDD |
| 22:49.45 | neo1691 | zykotick9: drwxr-xr-x 61 neo1691 neo1691 4096 Feb 28 01:18 Music These are thr permissions |
| 22:49.56 | centrx | erlehmann, Debian with patch its version, or the other bug reporter mentioned removing it from the archive. |
| 22:50.12 | neo1691 | where Music is the folder that I have specified |
| 22:50.17 | zykotick9 | neo1691: so for that example, group and other do have read/execute (which is good!) |
| 22:50.33 | centrx | erlehmann, Ten days is not an especially long time to wait for the Python maintainers to act on a bug in unstable. |
| 22:50.38 | neo1691 | Yes, so no permission problems! |
| 22:50.47 | erlehmann | centrx oh okay. i had faster response times in the past. |
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| 22:50.56 | zykotick9 | neo1691: lol, well, for that 1 diretory ;) |
| 22:51.00 | centrx | erlehmann, All depends on the maintainer and the stage of the Debian release cycle. |
| 22:51.02 | miseria | "El Tiempo no agrada a todo el mundo, libre albedrio, quien seria yo si pudiera hacer lo que el tiempo no puede?" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival* |
| 22:51.24 | neo1691 | zykotick9: Inside there are many directories as well as some music files. |
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| 22:51.43 | erlehmann | centrx #debian-python was helpful, thanks |
| 22:51.47 | neo1691 | How can I check whether mpd as an user can access my music folder? |
| 22:51.50 | centrx | erlehmann, The #debian-python channel is probably more active during different days/times. |
| 22:51.51 | zykotick9 | neo1691: have you restarted the mpd service, between making config changes? |
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| 22:51.58 | neo1691 | zykotick9: Yes |
| 22:52.05 | centrx | erlehmann, It sounds like they were there. |
| 22:52.46 | zykotick9 | neo1691: re mpd permissions, that's more an issue if you've prevented access to your home dir, in anyway. "hopefully" it's not an issue, why i was asking... |
| 22:53.17 | neo1691 | No I have set up normal LVM volumes which are not encrypted |
| 22:53.40 | erlehmann | is there any chance i can have debian plan9? |
| 22:53.49 | erlehmann | like how would i start with such a thing? |
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| 22:54.15 | ixio | an installation log shows up the following error: cp: cannot stat `/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ld-linux.so*': No such file or directory - anyone know which package relates to this ? |
| 22:54.18 | neo1691 | I don't know whats wrong! |
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| 22:56.29 | neo1691 | I even tried copying some mp3 files to /var/lib/mpd/music and changed path to this directory in mpd.conf. Nothing happened even after restarting the service |
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| 22:57.32 | berceanu | how can i install this package on wheezy: https://packages.debian.org/sid/libtorrent-rasterbar7 |
| 22:57.51 | centrx | dpkg: tell berceanu about ssb |
| 22:59.50 | ixio | bit more info.. the error relates to "cp: cannot stat `/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ld-linux.so" (ther are more errors to do with cannot stat) now these files do exist in /lib/ and also in /lib/i686/cmov... should I just create a symlink ? |
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| 23:00.43 | neo1691 | zykotick9: Its permission issue! All the songs in that folder don't have read access! |
| 23:01.30 | neo1691 | can somebody tell me how can I allow read access to other and group and retain all permissions for the current user? |
| 23:01.53 | centrx | ixio, libc6 |
| 23:01.58 | neo1691 | I think it should be chmod -R 755 Path/To/DIr? Please correct me |
| 23:02.55 | zykotick9 | neo1691: TBO, i'd cd into the directory, then "chmod go+r ..." myself |
| 23:03.02 | ixio | sometimes its easier to use chmod g+rw syntax |
| 23:03.32 | neo1691 | Okay! Time to read about permissions! |
| 23:04.04 | ixio | if you want groups to have read then the middle number needs to be 5 |
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| 23:04.38 | neo1691 | ixio: chmod -R 755 Music/* should do right? |
| 23:04.45 | ixio | that will make it readable by anyone |
| 23:05.08 | neo1691 | what should I replace last 5 with? 2? |
| 23:05.09 | berceanu | centrx: and if instead of sid i want jessie, i do the same, with the exception of the repository name right? |
| 23:05.18 | centrx | berceanu, Yes |
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| 23:05.21 | ixio | 750 if you only want group members and the user to have access |
| 23:05.25 | berceanu | centrx: ty! |
| 23:05.30 | ixio | the last number is like everyone else |
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| 23:06.14 | ixio | I think its a horrible system, the way linux does permissions.. if you want to be granular and have more than one group then you have to use ACL's instead |
| 23:06.40 | zykotick9 | neo1691: fyi you DON'T want to remove EXECUTE from directories! your -R could be bad! |
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| 23:07.21 | neo1691 | zykotick9: I just ran it on one music file at the moment! |
| 23:07.37 | neo1691 | After that I will try to use chmod -R only with *mp3 and not with * |
| 23:07.38 | zykotick9 | *.mp3 might be faster ;) |
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| 23:08.16 | zykotick9 | neo1691: if you remove execute for directories, then you can't ENTER them... |
| 23:08.42 | neo1691 | zykotick9: Yes I remember I had been in that situation once when I was super noob and used to use ubuntu |
| 23:09.23 | ixio | do you guys get a result for: apt-cache search ia32-libs |
| 23:09.27 | neo1691 | and What the difference it makes if I use *.mp3 or *mp3? Never it seems to be slow, on a 8 GB memory machine! |
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| 23:10.08 | zykotick9 | ixio: "apt-cache search ^ia32" there is some transitional package in wheezy |
| 23:10.22 | neo1691 | Not working! |
| 23:10.27 | neo1691 | Tired! I should sleep |
| 23:10.29 | neo1691 | Damn! |
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| 23:10.44 | ixio | I need to install ia32-libs on a lenny system and theres nothing in the apt-cache.. any suggestions ? |
| 23:10.49 | neo1691 | Thanks zykotick9! I will make it work! |
| 23:11.48 | Bublik2002 | im trying to copy files from my debian box to my windows computer.. i logged into the workgroup with a password but when i tried to copy it says i dont have premission to write.. someone please help |
| 23:14.07 | sveva65 | ixio: Are you on 64 bit? If so, try "dpkg --add-architecture i386, apt-get/aptitude update and search ia32-libs again. |
| 23:14.28 | ixio | dpkg: unknown option --add-architecture |
| 23:14.28 | dpkg | ixio: i haven't a clue |
| 23:14.33 | ixio | lol |
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| 23:15.55 | themill | ixio: you're a few years late in your lenny->squeeze (and squeeze->wheezy) upgrades. |
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| 23:16.18 | ixio | yeh I know, not my box they are trying to get rid of it but its got so much critical stuff on it |
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| 23:17.23 | themill | and you're trying to put more stuff on it now? |
| 23:17.36 | ixio | its a backup agent |
| 23:17.40 | ixio | requires these libs |
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| 23:26.08 | ixio | cant I just download this ia32-lib package and install it from somewhere |
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| 23:27.31 | ixio | the source is 300MB :s |
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| 23:32.16 | ixio | whats the file extension of a dpkg package ? |
| 23:32.28 | addaitech | .deb |
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| 23:33.46 | jhutchins | ixio: Linux file extensions are for humans only, they don't affect how the file is handled. |
| 23:34.30 | Tramp | gunzip disagrees |
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| 23:35.30 | jhutchins | Tramp: Then gunzip isn't posix compliant. |
| 23:35.45 | Tramp | I never claimed it was. |
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| 23:36.01 | jhutchins | Isn't it a port from Windows? |
| 23:36.21 | Tramp | also e.g. bash-completion relies heavily on extensions when completing filenames |
| 23:36.47 | Tramp | gunzip? I doubt it |
| 23:36.52 | addaitech | try installing an rpm without alien installed if file extensions do not matter |
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| 23:37.56 | ixio | weird thing is this system is a i386 system.. I guess thats why I cant find the package.. but why would I need ia32-libs on a i386 system |
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| 23:39.22 | xand | gunzip is just a shell wrapper to gzip |
| 23:39.31 | xand | it's not a program really |
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| 23:46.22 | teraflops | addaitech: rename a rpm package to whatever extension and file the file |
| 23:46.37 | UserError | is there any way to install a single libdrm-* package without using force on dpkg? |
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| 23:47.12 | mayamax3d_ | ciao |
| 23:47.52 | mayamax3d_ | hi, I'm here for study my english and perform my IT knoledge |
| 23:48.09 | centrx | mayamax3d_, For English, try ##English |
| 23:48.20 | mayamax3d_ | ok |
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| 23:48.30 | mayamax3d_ | and for IT |
| 23:48.31 | mayamax3d_ | ? |
| 23:49.08 | centrx | mayamax3d_, I don't know. Most channels are centered around the software used. |
| 23:49.38 | centrx | mayamax3d_, There are general channels for #programming and #hardware and #linux and so forth |
| 23:50.07 | mayamax3d_ | I use osx like o.s. but i love works with maya and aftereffect |
| 23:50.11 | mayamax3d_ | you know? |
| 23:51.14 | teraflops | lol |
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| 23:51.40 | centrx | mayamax3d_, I do not know the name of the Macintosh/OS X channel(s). Closed-source software like Maya and AfterEffect is much less common on Freenode. |
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| 23:57.09 | naout | <MrElendig> and for kde, use networkmanager for wifi |
| 23:57.09 | naout | <naout> should it already be installed? |
| 23:57.09 | naout | <MrElendig> probably not installed by default on netinstall |
| 23:57.19 | naout | networkmanager installed by default? true or false? |
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| 23:59.52 | pawell | Hi, I install library libadu3, what option should I add to g++ in order to use it ? |
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