| 00:00.09 | echo083 | someone know if there is a debian test box I could connect freely for test purpose ? |
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| 00:00.32 | nyk2005 | Dimtree: I tried, and it doesn't work. But I don't see why! It should work, damn. |
| 00:00.33 | themill | nyk2005: you will probably need to load binaries manually with the loader: http://paste.debian.net/85534/ |
| 00:00.47 | themill | nyk2005: (adjust those paths for your i386 system) |
| 00:01.30 | nyk2005 | themill: can I somehow paste the busybox binary though the terminal? I would have to write an uudecode in bash |
| 00:01.33 | Dimtree | echo083: https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/faq/ (Not quite Debian, I know) |
| 00:01.37 | m09 | I'm trying to automate a roundcube install with ansible but have a problem: it proposes a choice in a ncurse program during install. Is there any way to pre-decide this choice in apt/aptitude? |
| 00:01.41 | themill | actually, the LD_PRELOAD in that command isn't necessary |
| 00:01.42 | nyk2005 | maybe that exists already |
| 00:02.02 | nyk2005 | I have a look at the loader, thanks! |
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| 00:02.16 | themill | nyk2005: so yeah, what I just had in the pastebin should be enough to get an "ls" to work. If you can "ls", then you can mv (or rm or busybox) |
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| 00:02.20 | echo083 | Dimtree, i needed a debian wheezy :( i just need to test a single command do you have a wheezy box ? |
| 00:02.25 | nyk2005 | oh, like this, I see |
| 00:02.32 | Dimtree | I do, what command? |
| 00:02.42 | echo083 | Dimtree, curl https://www.google.com |
| 00:02.55 | themill | nyk2005: and you might like to install busybox-static when you've got a chance :) |
| 00:02.58 | echo083 | Dimtree, just tell me if it works correctly you should see a html answer |
| 00:03.14 | themill | nyk2005: btw is /var/cache on / ? an apt-get clean might help you with space issues. |
| 00:03.19 | nyk2005 | themill: yes... thanks for that command, wow, I hope it works! :) |
| 00:03.55 | nyk2005 | themill: no /var is an other partition, but also full... clean didn't work because of the broken state of the system |
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| 00:04.37 | Dimtree | echo083: http://pastebin.com/faAqhKFC |
| 00:04.42 | nyk2005 | themill: ...but it's not THAT broken, if I can just unpack that initrd, it could possible work to reboot |
| 00:04.57 | themill | sure, you're not going to be able to just run apt-get clean until you've moved /lib back |
| 00:04.58 | echo083 | Dimtree, thx a lot ! |
| 00:05.08 | themill | nyk2005: don't reboot until you've got /lib moved back though. |
| 00:05.27 | nyk2005 | themill: yes, sure. I try now... |
| 00:05.28 | Dimtree | Good luck even calling /bin/reboot |
| 00:05.30 | themill | nyk2005: if you lose that root shell at this stage, you're stuffed. |
| 00:05.32 | echo083 | Dimtree, i have a squeeze and didn't want to spend time installing a wheezy box just to test if it is working fine on wheezy |
| 00:05.50 | nyk2005 | yes, I know. Hope my ISP stays online |
| 00:06.33 | themill | nyk2005: do you have old kernels installed that you don't need any more? |
| 00:07.18 | nyk2005 | themill: probably yes |
| 00:07.23 | Dimtree | So, this is a theoretical question that I already repaired, but is there a way to fix "chmod -R ago-x /"? |
| 00:07.30 | Brigo | and soft links? |
| 00:07.46 | nyk2005 | themill: but I felt a bit unsure which one to remove.. |
| 00:07.49 | themill | nyk2005: so you could clean up something in (/usr/root)/lib/modules/$(uname -r) for the kernels you don't actually use |
| 00:08.00 | Brigo | Dimtree, a good backup |
| 00:08.02 | m09 | I'm trying to automate a roundcube install with ansible but have a problem: it proposes a choice in a ncurse program during install. Is there any way to pre-decide this choice in apt/aptitude? (sorry for the repost, anyone has a clue?) |
| 00:09.08 | Dimtree | Brigo: Is a tarbundle of the rootfs created nightly a "good" backup for a home server? |
| 00:09.19 | Dimtree | And yes, it is offsite |
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| 00:09.51 | Brigo | Dimtree, should be enought |
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| 00:10.10 | Brigo | themill, can't he make a hard link? |
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| 00:11.31 | cast | Dimtree: is it a tar of a point in time or over a period in time [probably however tar took to finish] |
| 00:11.53 | Dimtree | Uhhh |
| 00:11.55 | themill | Brigo: not across filesystems |
| 00:12.17 | Brigo | and soft O:-) |
| 00:12.20 | Brigo | ? |
| 00:13.07 | themill | Brigo: that would save nyĸ2005 needing to do the LD_* dance right now, but the system would be unbootable |
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| 00:13.50 | themill | nyk2005: what directories do you have in that /usr/root/lib/modules ? |
| 00:14.00 | Brigo | ah, so the problem now it bootabilitie. ok |
| 00:14.51 | nyk2005 | themill: wow, thanks a lot, now mv worked! |
| 00:14.52 | themill | well I do have a preference for keeping the machine in a bootable state. Old fashioned, I know. |
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| 00:15.07 | themill | nyk2005: cool... so you've got enough disk space in / to work with at the moment? |
| 00:15.12 | nyk2005 | themill: but I should have used cp -r, damn. |
| 00:15.43 | Brigo | themill, :-) |
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| 00:16.53 | nyk2005 | themill: no, the mv failed |
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| 00:18.05 | themill | nyk2005: ran out of space? |
| 00:20.11 | nyk2005 | themill: I am not sure, trying to find out... |
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| 00:21.04 | nyk2005 | themill: nothing was moved back... |
| 00:21.07 | chalcedony | im on squeeze and someone mentioned this vulnerability: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/ |
| 00:21.18 | chalcedony | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.gpg.gnutls.devel/7341 |
| 00:21.20 | themill | nyk2005: in what way did it fail? |
| 00:21.22 | redcheckers | Hi, I recently rebooted my system using debian, and well, it gives me an error message about something cpio and being unable to mount a root filesystem. is there an easy way to make a new kernel, or do i need to reinstall? |
| 00:21.29 | pi___ | nyk2005: hello |
| 00:21.59 | chalcedony | i'm not sure, do i need to do something? |
| 00:22.02 | nyk2005 | themill: sorry, I think I have a mistake in the command, I have to check all the files |
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| 00:23.50 | pi___ | is somewhere recommendition, how much space is good for / ? |
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| 00:24.13 | nyk2005 | themill: COOL, the cp worked, now I have /lib/ back in place, and ls works!!! great! thanks! |
| 00:24.15 | themill | pi___: as nyk2005 how much he has and add something to it |
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| 00:24.43 | nyk2005 | themill: and I can ssh back in... so now back to the problem of the full / partition |
| 00:24.55 | themill | nyk2005: excellent. Now a little cleaning sounds like it's in order -- have a look at kernels you don't need |
| 00:25.13 | themill | nyk2005: I assume /var/log is on a separate partition to / ? |
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| 00:25.53 | nyk2005 | themill: yes, on /var I have some 100 megs free, which should be enough |
| 00:26.27 | themill | yeah, just wondering where else you might find things to clean up -- killing off some old log files in /var/log can be an easy way of doing that |
| 00:26.37 | nyk2005 | Yes, I can delete initrd.img-2.6.18-6-686, because I run 2.6.26. And why does it have a .bak? |
| 00:27.16 | nyk2005 | themill: I don't have to change a config file to reflect that I removed it? |
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| 00:28.12 | Brigo | nyk2005, yes, you have to run update-grub2 |
| 00:28.24 | Brigo | if you have update-grub2 installed |
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| 00:28.38 | themill | nyk2005: well.. you could "dpkg -r linux-image-2.6.18-6-686" to get rid of that package. I don't know if dpkg is going to able to complete the operation though from what you've been saying. |
| 00:28.43 | nyk2005 | Brigo: I don't have that installed |
| 00:29.02 | Brigo | nyk2005, lilo? :-) |
| 00:29.06 | nyk2005 | themill: I first try to finish my dist-upgrade and hope for the best |
| 00:29.08 | pi___ | i have syslog 1.1M |
| 00:29.11 | themill | nyk2005: wait |
| 00:29.21 | nyk2005 | themill: ok |
| 00:29.42 | themill | nyk2005: aren't you going to just end up in exactly the same problem if you just do that? |
| 00:30.12 | nyk2005 | themill: / still only has 69 megs left. Somehow df doesn't reflect the change. :( Damn broken system |
| 00:30.44 | themill | nyk2005: the files in / are normally symlinks into /boot and that's probably a separate filesystem |
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| 00:31.16 | nyk2005 | I have never seen a worse partitioning: http://paste.debian.net/85543/ (what a stupid thing to do) |
| 00:31.33 | themill | egads |
| 00:31.49 | nyk2005 | themull: (which was before I cleaned up 500megs in /var) |
| 00:32.29 | themill | that's really really tiny for /. |
| 00:32.42 | nyk2005 | themill: no, boot seems to be on / ... The admin who installed it probably did it by hand as a excercise... |
| 00:33.01 | themill | yeah, that's the size I'd normally give to /boot. |
| 00:33.45 | nyk2005 | themill: / http://paste.debian.net/85544/ |
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| 00:34.14 | themill | nyk2005: so what do you have in /lib/modules ? |
| 00:34.20 | nyk2005 | themill: so, now, I should NOT resume apt-get -f dist-upgrade? Then what? |
| 00:35.25 | nyk2005 | themill: 4642 files in /lib/modules. In the 2.6.18-6-686 and 2.6.26-2-686 subdirs |
| 00:36.01 | themill | and 2.6.18 is your currently running kernel and 2.6.26 is the one you're trying to install, I assume. |
| 00:36.57 | nyk2005 | themill: no, I am currently running 2.6.26-2-686 ! The one am trying to install is not yet installed, will be >3 |
| 00:37.46 | themill | OK. I assume that /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686 will have little in it then -- you can just delete that directory to give yourself some more space |
| 00:37.49 | nyk2005 | themill: that why I would dist-upgrade, because the system is currently *unbootable* |
| 00:38.11 | nyk2005 | themill: ok, good idea! |
| 00:38.28 | themill | I would imagine that 2.6.26-2-686 would still work in this state though. |
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| 00:38.51 | nyk2005 | themill: wow, 111M free, this should be enough I guess |
| 00:39.10 | themill | your new kernel is going to be about 80M in size |
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| 00:39.51 | Brigo | it looks good :-) |
| 00:39.52 | themill | ,i linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 00:39.53 | judd | Package linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae (kernel, optional) in wheezy/i386: Linux 3.2 for modern PCs. Version: 3.2.54-2; Size: 22385.2k; Installed: 80218k |
| 00:39.58 | themill | yay me. |
| 00:40.02 | nyk2005 | themill: so it's still quite thight. or is the 80megs "all included"? |
| 00:40.36 | nyk2005 | themill: so let's run apt-get! |
| 00:40.37 | themill | well... your dist-upgrade may well pop other things into / too. A new initramfs at least. |
| 00:40.52 | nyk2005 | themill: is this big stuff? |
| 00:41.37 | themill | another 12ish MB. I don't know if there are any new libraries you'll also get in / or even just new libraries that are bigger on disk. |
| 00:41.49 | themill | It's certainly going to be tight, yes. |
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| 00:42.15 | nyk2005 | themill: this sounds good, I'll try... I could maybe get 5MB from cleaning up /etc... |
| 00:42.22 | Brigo | 11-14M my ones. |
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| 00:42.37 | nyk2005 | thanks, so it's ok I hope |
| 00:42.39 | themill | nyk2005: I think you're going to want to schedule some time for rearranging your partitions there ;) |
| 00:43.19 | nyk2005 | themill: yeah, but maybe for always just one kernel it works like this |
| 00:44.22 | BenNZ | hi i tried installing memtest86 now im trying to remove it and i get http://paste.debian.net/85547/ and if i try to reinstall memtest86 http://paste.debian.net/85548/ , how can i fix this ? |
| 00:45.09 | BenNZ | im trying to remove it because it didnt install properly and is left unconfigured |
| 00:45.49 | themill | nyk2005: yeah... /lib+/bin+/boot on most of my systems is around 220MB (400MB on the systems where I keep a spare kernel around so I can make a mess) |
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| 00:46.18 | nyk2005 | themill: it's still upgrading.... |
| 00:46.29 | themill | nyk2005: BTW that partitioning scheme would be much better if you used that small one for /boot (not /) and then just went for combined /+/usr |
| 00:47.33 | nyk2005 | themill: I would just put everything in one / partition |
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| 00:49.02 | themill | well yes, over-partitioning is easy to do. (/var/(log)) and /tmp on separate partitions can make sense) |
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| 00:51.06 | potatoceleron | is redirecting their network traffic to /dev/dsp |
| 00:52.46 | nyk2005 | thmill: now I get strange errors when upgrading: http://pastebin.com/XxvAQpDt |
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| 00:53.50 | nyk2005 | themill: somehow this philosophical problem prevents it from working: insserv: Starting stop-bootlogd depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! |
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| 00:54.36 | themill | nyk2005: this sytsem really is an old one |
| 00:55.14 | unclezipper | So, I have an issue... Someone I know had a simultaneous motherboard, hard drive and RAID controller failure. 2 of the disks from his RAID5 array still work(of 3). The only other machine we have to work with only has 2 SATA ports. Is there any way to recover his data? |
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| 00:55.34 | themill | nyk2005: what version of insserv is currently on the system? (dpkg -l insserv) |
| 00:56.04 | nyk2005 | themill: 1.14.0-5 |
| 00:56.07 | greermurray | hello, someone has realized that the iso testing freeze the installation, anyone know about that? |
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| 00:59.36 | themill | nyk2005: ok. So at the top of that paste, there were a pile of scripts that it complains about having no LSB headers. Most of those are old crap that you can get rid of. Have a look at the output of "aptitude search ~c" and "dpkg --purge" any of the packages for which you no longer want the config files kept around. (the old config files include some of those init scripts) |
| 01:00.10 | nyk2005 | themill: so I just delete those? |
| 01:00.15 | themill | nyk2005: some of the other init scripts there might not have been upgraded from older versions because of local modifications. That's a bit harder to deal with, |
| 01:00.29 | themill | nyk2005: dpkg --purge will delete the init script as part of purging the package |
| 01:00.52 | themill | S11libdevmapper1.02 is left over from sarge, for instance |
| 01:01.22 | nyk2005 | themill: ok |
| 01:03.16 | nyk2005 | themill: but that will keep the package installed? without config files? |
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| 01:03.56 | nyk2005 | themill: how can I get rid of for example S11initrd-tools.sh? |
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| 01:05.11 | nyk2005 | themill: oh, I see! dpkg --purge apache-ssl fails! |
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| 01:07.43 | nyk2005 | themill: the same problem: http://paste.debian.net/85552/ |
| 01:08.48 | themill | nyk2005: Yeah, just rm some of those scripts if you know you don't need them. |
| 01:08.54 | Brigo | nyk2005, purge will remove all the package, but then may be you can install the new one. |
| 01:09.18 | nyk2005 | themill: just the ones in /etc/init.d/ ? |
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| 01:10.15 | nyk2005 | themill: in all the rc.d's ? |
| 01:10.16 | themill | nyk2005: cleaning up the links to them in /etc/rc?.d/ would be good too |
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| 01:10.35 | nyk2005 | themill: they're just there |
| 01:10.46 | themill | can you pastebin your /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd ? (and what version of bootlogd do you have installed?) |
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| 01:11.28 | nyk2005 | themill: will my system boot without those? |
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| 01:12.08 | themill | which? bootlogd? |
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| 01:12.39 | Pegasus_RPG1 | Hello. What's the recommended package caching software these days? I've used apt-cacher for years and am building a new caching server. |
| 01:13.01 | themill | Pegasus_RPG1: I quite like apt-cacher-ng |
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| 01:14.34 | BenNZ | hi i tried installing memtest86 becuase it did dint install properly now im trying to remove it and i get http://paste.debian.net/85547/ and if i try to reinstall memtest86 http://paste.debian.net/85548/ , how can i fix this ? |
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| 01:15.45 | nyk2005 | themill: removed them all, still not working: http://paste.debian.net/85553/ |
| 01:16.12 | nyk2005 | themill: the same problem: Starting stop-bootlogd depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true... |
| 01:16.51 | themill | nyk2005: can you pastebin your /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd ? (and what version of bootlogd do you have installed?) |
| 01:16.58 | Pegasus_RPG1 | themill: anything to recommend it over apt-cacher? |
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| 01:17.53 | themill | Pegasus_RPG1: I'm not sure I ever looked carefully at that one. acng works purely as an http_proxy so you can use it without modifying the sources.list and enable/disable from the command line which I find quite handy. |
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| 01:20.53 | Pegasus_RPG1 | oh that's cool, a transparent proxy. Handy for when the proxy is down :) |
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| 01:22.15 | themill | I've never used it as a transparent proxy (the http client should know it's talking to a proxy so it can act accordingly) |
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| 01:23.21 | Pegasus_RPG1 | ah ok |
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| 01:27.09 | nyk2005 | themill: now it seemed to work, I removed a lot of stuff using sysv-rc-conf!! |
| 01:28.19 | themill | nyk2005: excellent. (my guess is you had a crufty old bootlogd there that you were no longer using either) |
| 01:28.37 | nyk2005 | themill: How can I test if it's ready to be rebooted? |
| 01:28.48 | nyk2005 | themill: or should I just not reboot, ever? :) |
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| 01:29.16 | themill | nyk2005: does "apt-get -f install" want to do anything? |
| 01:29.24 | nyk2005 | no |
| 01:29.40 | themill | and dist-upgrade? |
| 01:30.00 | nyk2005 | grub-install maybe? |
| 01:30.14 | nyk2005 | no |
| 01:31.51 | themill | so ideally that would all have been done by the maintainer scripts for you. You could always "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae" and you should see that it has generated the initramfs for you (hope you have space!) and prodded the bootloader. |
| 01:33.28 | nyk2005 | that worked, thanks. Now I should reboot, yes? |
| 01:33.37 | nyk2005 | thanks for your help! |
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| 01:34.30 | themill | yes, cross fingers, touch wood, sacrifice a goat at the base of the keyboard etc |
| 01:34.42 | nyk2005 | ok! |
| 01:34.52 | nyk2005 | gone |
| 01:34.55 | nyk2005 | for now |
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| 01:35.00 | themill | runs and hides |
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| 01:35.58 | nyk2005 | ah, great, it's back! in 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 01:36.06 | themill | dpkg, congratulate nyk2005 |
| 01:36.06 | dpkg | Good show nyk2005, you did it! |
| 01:36.09 | nyk2005 | inbelivable!! |
| 01:36.24 | nyk2005 | yes, thanks for your help!! |
| 01:36.28 | themill | no worries |
| 01:36.32 | nyk2005 | it was completely broken |
| 01:36.32 | dvs | what did it again? |
| 01:36.44 | Nameless2132 | thinking of setting up openbox, an suggestuins? |
| 01:36.50 | themill | dvs: the breaking or the fixing? |
| 01:36.55 | nyk2005 | sysv-rc-conf |
| 01:36.59 | dvs | the fixing |
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| 01:37.17 | themill | dvs: running the loader directly with an LD_LIBRARY_PATH to start running binaries |
| 01:37.23 | nyk2005 | found a forum thread for that error message, which suggested using that to disable everything |
| 01:37.26 | dvs | ah |
| 01:37.44 | nyk2005 | themill: oh, yes, that! |
| 01:37.52 | themill | nyk2005: you might like to run "aptitude search ~c" and see what is left over crap that wants purging. Also, "aptitude search ~o" |
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| 01:38.02 | nyk2005 | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/root/lib:/usr/root/lib/i386-linux-gnu LD_PRELOAD=/usr/root/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc-2.13.so /usr/root/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ld-2.13.so /bin/cp -r /usr/root/lib/* /lib/ |
| 01:38.22 | Nameless2132 | I think I'm gonna triple boot arch and debian and windows |
| 01:38.52 | dvs | WTH did /usr/root come from? |
| 01:39.03 | themill | dvs: mv /lib /usr/root |
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| 01:39.10 | themill | nyk2005: it wouldn't hurt to run debsums to double check the installed packages. I' |
| 01:39.21 | dvs | oh man! That was totally pooched! |
| 01:39.27 | themill | dpkg: imagine their all happy because they were almost all isntalled just now in the dist-ugprade |
| 01:39.27 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, themill |
| 01:39.38 | themill | dpkg, shush |
| 01:39.38 | dpkg | Fine, I'll shut up. |
| 01:39.48 | nyk2005 | ok, thanks for the hint! |
| 01:40.13 | nyk2005 | some failed, I hope it fixed them |
| 01:40.37 | themill | nyk2005: apt and dpkg are very resilient in their error handling. |
| 01:40.40 | gnugnu8 | Why do I see in some examples on the web shell command being used ending with a semicolon (;) at the end? |
| 01:40.55 | nyk2005 | themill: yes, that's true |
| 01:41.14 | mentor | gnugnu8, semicolons separate commands |
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| 01:44.10 | gnugnu8 | mentor: but when I enter them one after one, they would be invoked separately, too? |
| 01:45.25 | mentor | gnugnu8: If you press return, you can omit the semicolon, and only the command you entered will be executed. |
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| 01:47.03 | gnugnu8 | mentor: ah, so this is for specifying a row of commands / in scripting |
| 01:47.35 | mentor | gnugnu8: Separating commands on one line, yes. |
| 01:48.18 | gnugnu8 | mentor: thanks |
| 01:48.42 | gnugnu8 | I also see people using && between commands to let them run in order, but it often fails for me. |
| 01:49.00 | mentor | gnugnu8: (You can also pipe the output of one command into the input of another, and conditionally execute commands based on the return value of the previous one) |
| 01:49.03 | mentor | Yes :) |
| 01:49.47 | mentor | Well, if the command before the "&&" failed, it would be correct not to execute the second one. |
| 01:49.56 | gnugnu8 | ah, this makes sense |
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| 01:51.05 | mentor | You can use "||" to execute the latter command only if the former failed too |
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| 01:52.03 | BenNZ | hi i tried installing memtest86 becuase it did dint install properly now im trying to remove it and i get http://paste.debian.net/85547/ and if i try to reinstall memtest86 http://paste.debian.net/85548/ , how can i fix this ? |
| 01:52.18 | BenNZ | *didnt |
| 01:53.25 | grnmtn | some users on my server aren't getting the /etc/profile.d/ files sourced when they login - any idea what could cause that? |
| 01:55.11 | grnmtn | actually, upon further investigation, it just appears to be that way when I switch to them with "sudo su user" |
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| 01:55.54 | themill | grnmtn: you're looking for sudo -i |
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| 01:56.01 | grnmtn | themill: thanks! |
| 01:56.23 | themill | We need an equivalent of UUOC for "sudo su" :S |
| 01:57.22 | BenNZ | does anyone know how i can either install or remove a package that is left half configured? |
| 01:57.42 | grnmtn | themill: I'm quite guilty of abusing cats too |
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| 01:58.32 | mentor | BenNZ: What happens when you try to install the pacakge properly? |
| 01:58.47 | mentor | Belay that |
| 01:59.27 | mentor | BenNZ: Try dpkg --reconfigure --all |
| 02:00.24 | BenNZ | mentor: dpkg: error: unknown option --reconfigure |
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| 02:00.53 | mentor | BenNZ: dpkg --configure --all |
| 02:01.39 | BenNZ | mentor: no package named `all' is installed, cannot configure |
| 02:01.56 | potatoceleron | it also says i'm using x11 on a mac... which i've done, and it's hilariously tedious |
| 02:02.04 | ctmjr | try apt-get -f install |
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| 02:02.21 | mentor | OK, doing this from Windows sucks |
| 02:02.30 | mentor | BenNZ: dpkg --configure -a |
| 02:02.43 | BenNZ | mentor: it just goes to the next line , no output |
| 02:03.16 | sleenk | can anyone recommend a very light weight window manager that has ALT+TAB (something small, like blackbox) |
| 02:03.23 | BenNZ | ctmjr: tried that too but i get http://paste.debian.net/85557/ |
| 02:03.32 | centrx | sleenk, openbox |
| 02:03.43 | sleenk | centrx: ty |
| 02:03.44 | mentor | BenNZ: dpkg -l memtest86 |
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| 02:04.30 | BenNZ | mentor: http://paste.debian.net/85558/ |
| 02:06.07 | dvs | BenNZ: apt-cache policy memtest86 |
| 02:06.13 | jeeves_moss | mentor, are you any good at FSTAB mounting issues on Windows shares? |
| 02:06.18 | mentor | Heh, "uppercase=bad" |
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| 02:06.50 | mentor | BenNZ: The package needs reinstalling |
| 02:07.03 | BenNZ | dvs: http://paste.debian.net/85559/ |
| 02:07.32 | dvs | yup, mixing releases |
| 02:07.58 | mentor | jeeves_moss: I'm not sure |
| 02:09.25 | mentor | jeeves_moss: Feel free to ask anyway |
| 02:09.36 | BenNZ | mentor: i get this when trying to reinstall http://paste.debian.net/85561/ |
| 02:10.05 | BenNZ | dvs: that was in an attempt to fix this , then i saw that they are the same package version |
| 02:10.15 | BenNZ | dvs: also tried getting it from stable |
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| 02:11.39 | mentor | I wish dpkg had a maintainer script debug thing |
| 02:12.23 | mentor | BenNZ: Look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/memtest86.postrm |
| 02:13.15 | BenNZ | mentor: http://paste.debian.net/85562/ |
| 02:13.54 | mentor | BenNZ: You can probably guess which thing is going wrong there |
| 02:14.35 | BenNZ | mentor: not really sorry |
| 02:15.05 | mentor | Well, it's trying to run update-grub2 |
| 02:15.28 | BenNZ | mentor: you mean as opposed to update-grub? |
| 02:15.51 | mentor | I mean, update-grub2 is probably failing |
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| 02:16.29 | mentor | BenNZ: Only one way to find out... |
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| 02:16.51 | BenNZ | mentor: sudo update-grub2 works |
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| 02:18.09 | BenNZ | mentor: other then this package either not install/reisntalling or removing everything working , id almost leave it but its annoying that everytime i install/remove something i get that error |
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| 02:20.24 | mentor | BenNZ: Well, at this point I would either turn on debugging by adding a -x to the sh #! line, or empty out the file so it would succeed unconditionally |
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| 02:23.09 | BenNZ | mentor: that didnt work either |
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| 02:23.23 | FuuqUmiist | is this true?? "Hundreds of open source packages, including the Red Hat, Ubuntu, and Debian distributions of Linux, are susceptible to attacks that circumvent the most widely used technology to prevent eavesdropping on the Internet, thanks to an extremely critical vulnerability in a widely used cryptographic code library." http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/ |
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| 02:24.09 | dvs | FuuqUmiist: Could be but I'll get fixed fast. |
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| 02:24.23 | mentor | FuuqUmiist: If you check for a Debian Security Advisory on the matter.. |
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| 02:24.57 | BenNZ | mentor: any other suggestions? |
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| 02:25.18 | dvs | BenNZ: What did you try? |
| 02:25.47 | mentor | (And I suppose while you're worrying you should make sure all you applications are using TLS v1.2 only, secure renegotiation only, using high security ciphers not including RC4) |
| 02:25.50 | BenNZ | dvs: editing /var/lib/dpkg/info/memtest86.postrm , i commented everything |
| 02:25.53 | mentor | FuuqUmiist |
| 02:26.35 | BenNZ | *commented out |
| 02:27.40 | BenNZ | dvs: is there a way to force the removal of the memtest86 package ? |
| 02:27.59 | mentor | BenNZ: And... what happened? |
| 02:29.07 | BenNZ | mentor: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1 errors were encounted whilst processing memtest86 |
| 02:31.54 | mentor | BenNZ: You commented everything out correctly? |
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| 02:33.42 | nyk2005 | thanks again, it finally all works!!!! |
| 02:33.54 | BenNZ | mentor: http://paste.debian.net/85564/ |
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| 02:36.29 | mentor | BenNZ: Colour me confused |
| 02:36.50 | BenNZ | mentor: ill try remove grub , then memtest |
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| 02:41.45 | BenNZ | mentor: i think thats done the trick , altho i now cant install grub-pc now |
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| 02:48.15 | BenNZ | mentor: thanks for your time in helping me with at least removing the half configured packaged , now i just wish grub-pc would install |
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| 02:49.03 | mentor | BenNZ: What happens when you try to install it? |
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| 02:50.30 | BenNZ | mentor: http://paste.debian.net/85568/ |
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| 02:52.00 | BenNZ | mentor: surely this has to be the way its packaged? |
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| 02:52.56 | mentor | BenNZ: It could be, but unless its a relatively new grub-pc package it would have been spotted already |
| 02:53.20 | mentor | BenNZ: I would look in the postinst for grub-pc |
| 02:53.26 | BenNZ | mentor: i am using testing , but i thought it would at least be installable |
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| 02:54.15 | BenNZ | mentor: i honestly dont know what im looking for in there |
| 02:54.42 | mentor | BenNZ: That's what I'm saying; it's unlikely that a package in testing would have migrated whilst being unninstallable |
| 02:55.07 | BenNZ | mentor: but i cant install it , i dont know whats wrong |
| 02:55.34 | mentor | Yes, so its probably not the package's fault. |
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| 02:56.17 | BenNZ | mentor: any ideas on what it is ? |
| 02:56.39 | mentor | I would look in the post inst script |
| 02:57.03 | BenNZ | mentor: what am i looking for? i have it open , but have no clue what im doing ther |
| 02:57.06 | BenNZ | *there |
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| 02:57.18 | mentor | BenNZ: Things that might fail |
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| 02:57.42 | mentor | Maybe try putting shell dbeugging on |
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| 02:58.22 | BenNZ | mentor: how do i do that? |
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| 02:58.47 | mentor | BenNZ: Add -x to the sh invocation in the script |
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| 03:00.01 | BenNZ | mentor: like http://paste.debian.net/85571/ |
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| 03:03.22 | mentor | BenNZ: That's the postrm, and dpkg calls it with arguments |
| 03:03.48 | BenNZ | mentor: sorry i didnt understand what you wanted me to do |
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| 03:05.37 | BenNZ | mentor: do you mean use set -ex , then reinstall grub-pc ? |
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| 03:07.57 | BenNZ | mentor: if i do that i get internal error, no filename for grub-pc:i386 |
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| 03:10.16 | mentor | BenNZ: So the first line of the script is: #!/bin/sh -x |
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| 03:10.36 | BenNZ | mentor: oh sorry i gotta now |
| 03:11.08 | csn_debian | alt+1 |
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| 03:11.31 | BenNZ | mentor: ok i still get internal error, no filename for grub-pc:i386 |
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| 03:12.04 | mentor | BenNZ: Can I see context for that? |
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| 03:14.40 | BenNZ | mentor: postrm file http://paste.debian.net/85572/, and reinstall error http://paste.debian.net/85574/ |
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| 03:19.44 | BenNZ | mentor: i can see bug reports but thats about 2.00-7 when it was in experimental |
| 03:20.14 | BenNZ | mentor: looks like i will just have use grub from stable until this bug is actually fixed |
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| 03:21.23 | mentor | I''m still confused by this dpkg error |
| 03:21.32 | debian_user | whois cjsarette |
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| 03:22.51 | BenNZ | mentor: i googled that error and it let me to a bug report about the exact problem im having , except for different grub version and im using 32bit |
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| 03:23.40 | mentor | I'm still inclined to believe it's a dpkg problem |
| 03:24.20 | BenNZ | mentor: if that was the case i couldnt install grub from stable , so ill try that |
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| 03:26.28 | BenNZ | mentor: yeah the stable version of grub-pc installed ok , a problem with video.lst but i think i know what that is |
| 03:26.45 | mentor | OK |
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| 03:27.51 | BenNZ | mentor: yes all fixed now , but i would like to use testing only , but it looks like i cant , but thank you for your time |
| 03:28.07 | mentor | :) |
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| 03:43.49 | utug23 | how to find if im using pae cpu? |
| 03:44.05 | utug23 | in terminal |
| 03:44.19 | dvs | utug23: If you have anything newer than a Pentium II? |
| 03:44.27 | utug23 | yes |
| 03:44.31 | utug23 | core i3 |
| 03:44.44 | dvs | then you have one. |
| 03:44.56 | utug23 | ok thanks |
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| 03:45.16 | utug23 | but what is the command to find that? |
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| 03:46.05 | grnmtn | utug23: uname -a |
| 03:46.12 | utug23 | then |
| 03:46.30 | grnmtn | utug23: the resulting kernel version with have PAE in the name |
| 03:46.48 | dvs | grnmtn: That's for the kernel, not necessarily the CPU. |
| 03:47.24 | grnmtn | dvs: I guess I ought've read up a bit first |
| 03:47.34 | grnmtn | dvs: up the page that is |
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| 03:47.41 | utug23 | because im using linux mint debian edition 2014 but it cannot acess my 6 gigs of ram in 32bit iso |
| 03:48.30 | grnmtn | utug23: correct answer, I think: cat /proc/cpuinfo, look for pae in flags for your CPU |
| 03:49.15 | dvs | utug23: Not being able to access more than 4GB is a kernel thing. |
| 03:49.56 | utug23 | it think i need to use 686 pae kernel right in linux mint debian right? |
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| 03:50.22 | centrx | utug23, Why don't you get a 64 bit ISO |
| 03:50.22 | dvs | or an amd64 kernel. |
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| 03:51.09 | kanliot | how do you know it doesnt have 6gb of ram? |
| 03:51.15 | kanliot | pae should be workin |
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| 03:51.35 | jKlaus | hey guys, anyone here have a lenovo T430? |
| 03:51.49 | dvs | jKlaus: ask your real question. |
| 03:51.50 | smrtz|nix | Hey, I just installed Debian, and I'm connected over ethernet, can someone help me figure out how to set up wireless please? |
| 03:51.55 | utug23 | i check on top command |
| 03:52.08 | smrtz|nix | jKlaus: I'm on a lenovo x130e. |
| 03:52.14 | kanliot | smrtz is this a desktop or server? |
| 03:52.27 | jKlaus | I have a strange issue of after so many days of running/being put in and out of hibernation audio over my speakers stops |
| 03:52.31 | smrtz|nix | kanliot: It's a laptop |
| 03:52.39 | jKlaus | I can't tell if its software or hardware related |
| 03:53.13 | jKlaus | It did the same thing in Ubuntu in the past, I don't think I'd had the issue in a long time though |
| 03:53.35 | kanliot | utug23, what does top say about your ram |
| 03:53.48 | jKlaus | last night my audio was working fine, put the computer into hibernation, pulled it out tonight and audio only comes over the headphones |
| 03:54.00 | kanliot | smrtz check network manager applet |
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| 03:54.35 | grnmtn | utug23: how much memory does "cat /proc/meminfo" report? |
| 03:54.41 | smrtz|nix | kanliot: do you know the package name for it? |
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| 03:54.45 | kanliot | jklause plug and unplug headphones |
| 03:54.59 | kanliot | smrtz it should be installed. REALLY |
| 03:55.05 | kanliot | on your taskbar |
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| 03:55.30 | utug23 | ok bye i need to work next time i will talk to you bye!!!!!! |
| 03:55.43 | smrtz|nix | kanliot: I chose to manually install my own WM, and I went with bspwm, so I don't think so... |
| 03:55.48 | utug23 | thanks debian community!!! |
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| 03:56.44 | smrtz|nix | Nevermind, I got the package name. |
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| 03:57.19 | smrtz|nix | Hmm, but when I try to install it, it wants to install from CD... kanliot |
| 03:58.12 | kanliot | thats normal problem |
| 03:58.48 | smrtz|nix | I've got the dameon installed though, so, there's that... |
| 04:00.40 | smrtz|nix | Hmm, I'm going to give wicd a try... |
| 04:01.21 | kanliot | thats probably a bad idea |
| 04:01.26 | smrtz|nix | it is? |
| 04:01.34 | centrx | wicd works well for me |
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| 04:01.58 | centrx | smrtz|nix, wicd and NetworkManager are the main ones |
| 04:02.15 | smrtz|nix | Also, my wireless interface isn't showing up with ip link, does that mean anything? |
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| 04:05.15 | Dimtree | Anyone have stats on how much space it would take to create a Debian mirror? |
| 04:05.39 | dvs | Dimtree: About 80GB |
| 04:05.55 | dvs | for one arch |
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| 04:06.02 | Dimtree | dvs: Is that everything, or just main? |
| 04:06.16 | dvs | everything |
| 04:06.35 | jKlaus | kanliot, I've tried that many times |
| 04:06.37 | jKlaus | does not help |
| 04:06.53 | Dimtree | dvs: Cool, thanks |
| 04:07.02 | dvs | no prob |
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| 04:08.14 | jampola | 80gb? That's actually almost worth considering. |
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| 04:08.46 | smrtz|nix | centrx: I should be able to see my wireless interface in ip link, before setting up wicd right? Do I need to install a driver for it like we did my gpu? |
| 04:09.22 | centrx | smrtz|nix, Quite possibly, use lspci to find the model for your network card |
| 04:09.50 | centrx | smrtz|nix, Then search for that with the word Debian. You probably need a certain firmware package |
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| 04:10.36 | smrtz|nix | It's apparently a RTL8188CE |
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| 04:11.20 | centrx | smrtz|nix, Do you see the name of the firmware package for the RTL8188CE ? |
| 04:11.21 | dvs | smrtz|nix: https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 04:11.53 | smrtz|nix | centrx: yeah, I just installed firmware-realtek |
| 04:12.44 | Dimtree | smrtz|nix: enable the non-free repo and "apt-get install firmware-linux" |
| 04:12.56 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: just did, thanks! |
| 04:13.11 | smrtz|nix | centrx: do I need to reboot now? Or just log out and back in? |
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| 04:13.21 | centrx | smrtz|nix, Probably not even that |
| 04:13.23 | davido45 | theres any body know how fix slow and disconnecting problem of ALFA AWU036H wireless adapter its using rtl8187 driver? |
| 04:13.24 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 04:13.33 | someHuman | Can someone help me set up my wifi? |
| 04:13.38 | Dimtree | Greetings Human |
| 04:13.42 | someHuman | I can't connect via wireless. |
| 04:13.51 | someHuman | I come in peace! |
| 04:14.02 | Dimtree | Kinda vague, what kind of adapter is it? |
| 04:14.04 | smrtz|nix | someHuman: I'm doing the same thing. Use lspci to find the name of your wireless chipset. |
| 04:14.22 | someHuman | Ok |
| 04:14.29 | smrtz|nix | (mines "RTS5209) |
| 04:14.39 | Dimtree | someHuman: Know your way around a command prompt? |
| 04:14.55 | someHuman | Yeah |
| 04:14.57 | smrtz|nix | "RTL8188CE"** |
| 04:15.00 | someHuman | Here's the result, http://paste.debian.net/85576/ |
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| 04:15.29 | Dimtree | someHuman: Add the non-free repo to apt-get, update, and install "firmware-linux" |
| 04:15.43 | someHuman | Where do I add it? |
| 04:15.57 | someHuman | How do I add it? |
| 04:15.58 | Dimtree | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:16.07 | smrtz|nix | someHuman https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 04:16.29 | rotad | davido45: I would check the USB cable to your Alfa card - switch it out with a newish cable to see if it helps first. |
| 04:16.47 | someHuman | Where here do I add it? Which line/s? |
| 04:17.30 | Dimtree | copy-paste the entire thing into paste.debian.net |
| 04:17.33 | someHuman | Here's my sources.list |
| 04:17.37 | someHuman | Yeah I just did ;) |
| 04:17.41 | Dimtree | :P |
| 04:17.57 | davido45 | its working in windows xp and windows 7 but in debian it not working theres no problem in cable im using |
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| 04:18.23 | Dimtree | Hello again smrtz|nix |
| 04:18.47 | Dimtree | someHuman: still with me? |
| 04:18.50 | someHuman | Yeah |
| 04:18.51 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: just relogged in, and it's still not working. Do I need to do a whole system reboot? |
| 04:19.02 | someHuman | Dimtree: Am here ;) |
| 04:19.02 | smrtz|nix | after installing the firmware? |
| 04:19.10 | davido45 | or ubuntu based distribution it not working properly what i should do? |
| 04:19.20 | Dimtree | smrtz|nix: that should have worked |
| 04:19.34 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: hmm.... |
| 04:19.37 | Dimtree | someHuman: Can you link me to a paste of te=he sources.list |
| 04:19.45 | Dimtree | *the |
| 04:19.45 | someHuman | Dimtree: http://paste.debian.net/85577/ |
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| 04:20.32 | someHuman | Dimtree: Am in a hurry though, am gonna bring my laptop with me because we're gonna go to a lot of places. |
| 04:20.41 | someHuman | Gotta leave in like 3 mins. |
| 04:20.47 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: any idea why it didn't? |
| 04:20.48 | someHuman | Dimtree: Sorry. |
| 04:20.53 | Dimtree | http://paste.debian.net/85578/ |
| 04:21.16 | Dimtree | Put that into your sources.list, replacing what's already there |
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| 04:21.58 | someHuman | Thanks! Then |
| 04:22.02 | someHuman | Then?* |
| 04:22.12 | Dimtree | then run "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware -y" |
| 04:22.25 | Dimtree | no |
| 04:22.32 | someHuman | Lol |
| 04:22.37 | someHuman | Just did the first command. |
| 04:22.45 | Dimtree | second command is "sudo apt-get install firmware-linux" |
| 04:22.49 | Dimtree | first one is fine |
| 04:22.59 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: I'll just follow along with what you're doing with someHuman, maybe that'll help... |
| 04:23.12 | someHuman | Didn't find linux-firmware |
| 04:23.15 | Dimtree | smrtz|nix: probably |
| 04:23.20 | Dimtree | firmware-linux |
| 04:23.23 | Dimtree | my bad |
| 04:23.24 | someHuman | Unable to locate package |
| 04:23.48 | someHuman | Then? |
| 04:23.54 | Dimtree | I mix em up alot |
| 04:24.11 | someHuman | Then? |
| 04:24.13 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: now we relogg, right? |
| 04:24.15 | Dimtree | Reboot, and you're WiFi should work |
| 04:24.23 | smrtz|nix | Ahh, brb. |
| 04:24.27 | someHuman | Cool! Thanks dude! <3 ;) |
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| 04:24.33 | Dimtree | No problemo |
| 04:24.43 | Dimtree | Which one was I helping again? |
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| 04:27.03 | Dimtree | davido45: You still here? |
| 04:27.06 | davido45 | how to fix alfa AWUS036H wireless adapter slow connection and frequently disconnecting its using the rtl8187 driver? |
| 04:27.16 | davido45 | yes i am here |
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| 04:28.13 | Dimtree | In my experience with that family, they don't work well with Debian |
| 04:28.25 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: ok, it worked that time. I'm installing wicd now. |
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| 04:28.43 | Dimtree | Paste the contents of lspci into pastebin? |
| 04:28.48 | Dimtree | smrtz|nix: Awesome |
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| 04:29.25 | jKlaus | So.. interesting finding |
| 04:29.36 | Dimtree | Do tell? |
| 04:29.57 | jKlaus | When my internal speakers stop working a restart doesn't solve it.. I have to completely shut down and restart |
| 04:30.23 | jKlaus | I am leaning toward the issue being hardware related |
| 04:30.28 | Dimtree | Yeah, soundcards are a b***h. |
| 04:30.29 | smrtz|nix | I'll brb, Dimtree |
| 04:30.30 | sheap | cant just restart alsa or whatever? |
| 04:30.48 | jKlaus | nope |
| 04:31.00 | Dimtree | sheap: A cold boot fixing it implies a hardware issue. |
| 04:31.08 | jKlaus | I tried restarting, stopping, starting aslsa |
| 04:31.09 | sheap | yea I true |
| 04:31.11 | sheap | *true |
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| 04:31.17 | davido45 | Dimtree, can i use ndiswrapper without any problems of updating the kernel? |
| 04:31.18 | Dimtree | jKlaus: A laptop, I presume? |
| 04:31.21 | jKlaus | yes |
| 04:31.24 | jKlaus | Lenovo T430 |
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| 04:32.15 | jKlaus | Audio comes out over the headphone jack still, seems like it just doesn't redirect to speakers |
| 04:32.54 | Dimtree | davido45: It uses DKMS, so no worries about the kernel. |
| 04:32.57 | jKlaus | maybe there's a capacitor in there somewhere that isn't discharging on a reboot? |
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| 04:33.58 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: so I've now got my card in ip link, but when I run wicd-client -n, it can't find any networks... |
| 04:34.27 | smrtz|nix | what package is iwscan in so I can test that my card can even find anything? |
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| 04:34.42 | davido45 | Dimitry; so can i update my kernel ? |
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| 04:35.41 | davido45 | Dimtree yes or no? |
| 04:35.46 | Dimtree | davido45: Yes, DKMS will handle compatibility I believe |
| 04:36.03 | davido45 | thanks Dimtree |
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| 04:37.08 | Dimtree | smrtz|nix: Looking... |
| 04:37.36 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: it looks like it's in wireless-tools, but I have that, and I can't use any of the iw** commands... |
| 04:38.16 | Dimtree | smrtz|nix: package is "iw" |
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| 04:38.49 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: it says I already have that too, I just tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and that didn't fix it. |
| 04:38.56 | Dimtree | hrmmm |
| 04:39.32 | smrtz|nix | but I DO have the man page for iw, somehow. |
| 04:39.38 | Dimtree | I think iwscan is a wrapper around "iw dev wlan0 scan" |
| 04:39.43 | Dimtree | So try that |
| 04:39.53 | smrtz|nix | I'm just getting command not found when I try running iw |
| 04:39.59 | Dimtree | and, are you running iw as root? |
| 04:40.09 | smrtz|nix | Oh god damn it.... |
| 04:40.18 | Dimtree | Happens to the best of us |
| 04:40.30 | smrtz|nix | fuck me right? I haven't been doing any of this as root... |
| 04:40.37 | smrtz|nix | Thanks for the help. |
| 04:40.47 | Dimtree | Install the package "command-not-found" to keep it from happening again |
| 04:41.00 | Dimtree | It'll remind you to run as root |
| 04:41.21 | smrtz|nix | lol, thanks |
| 04:41.21 | Dimtree | I'm glad to be of assistance |
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| 04:44.47 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: iw dev wlan0 scan works, but sudo wicd-client -n still can't find any wireless networks? |
| 04:45.03 | Dimtree | Hrmmm |
| 04:45.45 | smrtz|nix | Wait, I just had to set the default wireless interface. |
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| 04:47.37 | centrx | !radom |
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| 04:47.44 | JustFunds | i need a bulk seller for cPanel pls |
| 04:47.57 | centrx | "bulk seller"? |
| 04:48.14 | JustFunds | yes i need to buy cPanel |
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| 04:50.10 | centrx | JustFunds, What does that have to do with Debian? |
| 04:50.21 | centrx | !cpanel |
| 04:50.21 | dpkg | cPanel is a proprietary web hosting control panel. Ask me about <free whcp> for alternatives. |
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| 04:51.17 | sheap | dpkg bot never ceases to amaze me |
| 04:51.17 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, sheap |
| 04:51.21 | sheap | :P |
| 04:51.49 | centrx | dpkg: do tricks |
| 04:51.50 | dpkg | refuses to do tricks |
| 04:52.00 | sheap | the AI's are revolting! |
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| 04:52.56 | potatoceleron | can dpkg be downloaded somewhere? (yes, it's a very ironic question) |
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| 04:53.17 | chalcedony` | ./dns host.here works fine to resolve the host, in hexchat on windows7 here at my new location. however it does not work in xchat on debian, here. it used to work fine at my other house. how do i get it to work? |
| 04:53.19 | centrx | !infobot |
| 04:53.20 | dpkg | Infobot is an IRC bot that is geared towards remembering "factoids", and repeating them back to people on request. It supports many additional features, such as google lookups, dictionary, spell checker, debian package checks, and more. See http://infobot.sf.net/ for more. |
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| 04:53.55 | potatoceleron | sweet ty |
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| 04:55.45 | centrx | chalcedony`, Do you have the bind9-host package installed? |
| 04:55.50 | sheap | i messaged d pkg and he said for me to rtfm :( |
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| 04:57.01 | smrtz|nix | Dimtree: It worked, I'm finally sitting comfertably. |
| 04:57.35 | chalcedony` | centrx it seems to be running> S+ 23:57 0:00 grep bind9 |
| 04:57.40 | Dimtree | smrtz|nix: Cool beans. |
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| 04:57.57 | centrx | chalcedony`, That process is for the grep command you used to find it :) |
| 04:58.07 | chalcedony` | oh duh |
| 04:58.16 | centrx | chalcedony`, bind9-host is separated out from the rest of bind. It is just the "host" command, not a daemon. |
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| 04:58.39 | centrx | chalcedony`, And from running /dns on my IRC client (hexchat), it looks like it is using "host" |
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| 04:59.15 | chalcedony` | it's working on hexchat for me, too.. but not debian / xchat |
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| 05:07.53 | solrize | i want to set up a personal wheezy mirror. i don't see any place on debian.org to get all the packages--do i have to download them one at a time by crawling http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages ? |
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| 05:08.37 | wols | solrize: why do you need a full mirror? |
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| 05:09.00 | solrize | so i can get work done with no internet connection |
| 05:09.15 | solrize | i'm sick of having to stop what i'm doing and install some missing package several times a day |
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| 05:09.34 | wols | solrize: download the DVDs then. pointless but your choice |
| 05:09.42 | solrize | the dvd's don't have enough stuff |
| 05:09.51 | wols | they have all of debian. |
| 05:10.05 | solrize | there's a dvd distro with 4gb or so on it, is that what you mean? |
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| 05:10.47 | wols | no. there are 3 DVD ISOs ~13GB |
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| 05:10.56 | solrize | now that you mention it i do remember seeing something about blueray images with 50gb or so |
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| 05:11.56 | solrize | does the 13gb include everything? |
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| 05:17.55 | solrize | hmm looks like there's 8 source dvd's... maybe i was including that in the 50gb |
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| 05:29.49 | acu | can I install backport kernel for wheezy during install ? or I need to install first normally then add backport repos and install the kernel ? |
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| 05:32.07 | centrx | acu, I have heard that it has been done |
| 05:32.24 | centrx | acu, Certainly the simplest thing to do is the normal install |
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| 05:41.51 | pi___ | helou, where is kernel on hdd? |
| 05:43.27 | centrx | pi /boot/vmlinuz-<something> |
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| 05:44.02 | pi___ | i find it, /lib/modules/ |
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| 05:49.26 | Pryan | hello, how can i configure debian 7.4 for run virtio drivers & devices, essentially the network |
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| 05:54.35 | Pryan | any arround ? |
| 05:55.03 | centrx | Pryan, apt-cache search virtio ? |
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| 05:59.50 | Pryan | any ? |
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| 06:04.53 | sgo11 | hi, I plan to upgrade my laptop's RAM. it's only 2GB now. when I run "sudo dmidecode --type memory", it gives "Maximum Capacity: 16 GB". In my laptop specs, it says "maximum capacity is 4GB". By googling, some people insert 8GB successfully in this model (hopefully they are telling the truth). I am very confused. Who should I trust? 16GB, 4GB, or 8GB? thanks. |
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| 06:12.48 | pi___ | sgo11: try to find laptops specification |
| 06:13.19 | pi___ | debian support minimally 16GB |
| 06:13.39 | sgo11 | pi___, as I mentioned in my last post, my laptop spec says the maximum RAm is 4GB. I mentioned that in the last message. |
| 06:14.02 | pi___ | sgo11: so, i mean, only 4GB |
| 06:14.29 | sgo11 | should I trust the spec? people said they use 8GB in this model online. |
| 06:15.04 | shingouz | sgo11: some systems seem to support even more under linux. you could try more than the officially supported amount, but YMMV |
| 06:15.27 | pi___ | sgo11: what is this model? |
| 06:15.45 | sgo11 | pi___, asus u36j. |
| 06:15.55 | sgo11 | u36jc. |
| 06:16.23 | sgo11 | shingouz, Can I trust the output from "sudo dmidecode --type memory" ? it says "Maximum Capacity: 16 GB". thanks. |
| 06:16.58 | shingouz | sgo11: as i said: your mileage may vary. if you go over the official support, you're on your own. |
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| 06:17.58 | shingouz | ...on the other hand, you also may get lucky and be able to install a lot more than officially supported... |
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| 06:18.37 | sgo11 | shingouz, thanks. do you know the logic behind the command "dmidecode"? why does it say "16GM max capacity" in the output? |
| 06:18.55 | shingouz | no. sorry |
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| 06:19.21 | pi___ | sgo11: they say, DDR3, i mean, it can be 16GB |
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| 06:21.34 | sgo11 | pi___, if it can support 16GB, I will buy a 8GB ram. I just don't know how much RAM should I buy. :) |
| 06:23.09 | shingouz | sgo11: get more as starters, if it doesn't work, go back to the store and do a crying routine, exchange it for less? ;) |
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| 06:25.13 | pi___ | sgo11: buy, what is cheaper :-) |
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| 06:26.22 | sgo11 | shingouz, no need to cry. i just buy it online. if it does't work, they will exchange for me. I think I will try 8GB first. thanks. |
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| 06:27.24 | shingouz | sgo11: brick-and-mortar stores are a lot faster for that kind of service, especially the local store that you frequent for al your computing needs. try it sometimes |
| 06:27.51 | sgo11 | shingouz, ok. cheers. |
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| 06:28.49 | shingouz | of course, if you are nice, you tell the store straight up that you are not sure and ask if this mode of operation ould be ok. if you frequent the store, it usually is. |
| 06:29.09 | Pryan | hello, how can i configure debian 7.4 for run virtio drivers & devices, essentially the network |
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| 06:30.29 | shingouz | Pryan: apt-cache search virtio |
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| 06:30.56 | Pryan | i havent the virtual device |
| 06:31.10 | Pryan | and the modules are loaded |
| 06:31.22 | Pryan | ifconfig -a shows eth0 |
| 06:31.28 | sgo11 | shingouz, ok, got it. I will just buy it from the largest online store like ebay in my country. it has 7 days rejecting goods without any reasons service. something like that. |
| 06:32.26 | shingouz | Pryan: did you actually do a google on it? i seem to find a pretty good how-to from the first hit |
| 06:32.42 | Pryan | im googling from 30min |
| 06:33.21 | Pryan | pass the link |
| 06:33.23 | Pryan | lets see |
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| 06:34.19 | shingouz | Pryan: this will be very surprising. google for virtio. also, do apt-cache search virtio as two peoplel have already told you |
| 06:34.53 | shingouz | bad keyb here... and install the needed components on your system to actually run what you want |
| 06:35.03 | themill | Pryan: maybe you could explain more fully what you have tried and what isn't working (and what it is you're actually trying to do) |
| 06:35.40 | Pryan | ok |
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| 06:36.28 | Pryan | i tried reloading the kernel modules, doing search virtio, installing cloudbase-init cloud-init and no results on showing the virtual interface on debian 7 |
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| 06:37.57 | shingouz | Pryan: so what are you trying to do? |
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| 06:38.15 | Pryan | install the network on debian 7 |
| 06:38.24 | Pryan | it shows eth0 |
| 06:38.31 | Pryan | but i want vtnet* |
| 06:38.51 | shingouz | Pryan: you do not need virtio to install a netork on a pure debian system |
| 06:39.34 | Pryan | yeah i know but i want to use 10G-Base-T Nework interface of my cloud |
| 06:39.53 | Hydroxide | Pryan: what environment are you running in? |
| 06:40.04 | Pryan | QEMU |
| 06:40.25 | Pryan | i sell servers |
| 06:40.26 | Hydroxide | shingouz: some clouds do need virtio for pure debian - that said, debian ships virtio, so it's not an issue. |
| 06:40.56 | Hydroxide | Pryan: debian 7 does ship with virtio-scsi and virtio-net already available. |
| 06:41.18 | shingouz | feels a bit unstable amongst all the clouds |
| 06:41.30 | Hydroxide | Pryan: and the older virtio-block too |
| 06:42.43 | Pryan | and eth0 is still virtio ? |
| 06:43.06 | Pryan | i installed debian with virtio scsi |
| 06:43.07 | Hydroxide | Pryan: a VM with a single virtio-net device shows it as eth0 yes |
| 06:43.16 | Pryan | but the speed isnt 10Gb |
| 06:43.35 | Pryan | ok ok |
| 06:43.39 | Pryan | thanks |
| 06:43.51 | Pryan | look for amonium |
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| 06:47.55 | Hydroxide | Pryan: not sure what you mean by amonium. I don't know which versions of virtio-net support 10GigE, nor which versions made it into wheezy. you'd also need your qemu to support it, of course. I'd suggest trying the kernel from backports as a test |
| 06:48.24 | Hydroxide | Pryan: it's also possible you have to set the driver to 10GigE some how - I've never tried faster than regular GigE virtio. |
| 06:48.39 | Pryan | ok |
| 06:49.34 | Hydroxide | Pryan: I'm not trying to say wheezy doesn't support it, just expressing uncertainty. the only reason wheezy supports virtio-scsi at all is it was backported from kernels released after wheezy was. and the version of qemu in wheezy doesn't even support virtio-scsi that much (jessie and sid do) |
| 06:50.48 | dgriffi | does anyone know why a mountpoint might get deleted after something is dismounted from it? |
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| 06:51.21 | dgriffi | a couple days ago I was mounting an SD card on my Thinkpad T420, and when I dismounted the card, /sd would be deleted |
| 06:51.46 | dgriffi | I was using this fstab entry: /dev/mmcblk0p1 /sd auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 06:52.38 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 06:53.26 | someHuman | Can't use wireless |
| 06:53.34 | someHuman | What to do? |
| 06:55.31 | dgriffi | someHuman: that's a bit vague |
| 06:55.44 | someHuman | Haha |
| 06:55.58 | someHuman | I don't have wireless connection option |
| 06:56.05 | someHuman | And cable |
| 06:56.23 | someHuman | Can't connect to internet |
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| 06:57.25 | pi___ | dgriffi: i have sd card, and never there was delete |
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| 06:58.17 | pi___ | dgriffi: but it can be, if there is no good mount and umount |
| 06:59.01 | someHuman | Hello? |
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| 07:00.35 | dgriffi | someHuman: can you connect with wired ethernet for now? |
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| 07:01.07 | someHuman | Is there another way without using the cable? |
| 07:01.24 | someHuman | Like use some cached packages? |
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| 07:01.50 | shingouz | someHuman: you are still a bit on the vague side. do you have an AP running there? do you actually have the wireless hardware on your computer? |
| 07:01.50 | dgriffi | okay... try "sudo ifconfig -a" and tell me what you see on the very left side |
| 07:02.52 | someHuman | eth0 and lo |
| 07:03.41 | dgriffi | is this a laptop? |
| 07:03.47 | someHuman | yes |
| 07:03.58 | shingouz | someHuman: do you have wireless hardware on the computer in the first place? |
| 07:04.02 | someHuman | Yes |
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| 07:04.39 | someHuman | This is actually my first time unable to use wifi right after a fresh install lol. |
| 07:04.50 | grnmtn | someHuman: did wifi ever work on this laptop? |
| 07:04.54 | someHuman | Nope |
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| 07:05.05 | grnmtn | someHuman: run lspci|grep -i net |
| 07:05.06 | someHuman | I just used cable ever since. |
| 07:05.25 | grnmtn | someHuman: what devices does that report? |
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| 07:06.15 | AndChat|428976 | Then? |
| 07:06.46 | someHuman | Then? |
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| 07:07.15 | shingouz | someHuman: lspci | grep -i net. what does that report? |
| 07:07.16 | grnmtn | someHuman: what did you get back? use pastebin or similar |
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| 07:07.52 | grnmtn | on that topic, what's the preferred paste tool around here? |
| 07:08.07 | shingouz | !pastebinit |
| 07:08.07 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 07:08.18 | grnmtn | ah, thanks |
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| 07:09.00 | someHuman | Hello? |
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| 07:09.23 | grnmtn | someHuman: hi - what did you get from "lspci|grep -i net"? send us a pastebin link |
| 07:09.32 | someHuman | Can't |
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| 07:09.40 | someHuman | Can't connect |
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| 07:10.04 | shingouz | well, can you tell us what the output was? |
| 07:10.05 | someHuman | Neither cable or wireless is available. |
| 07:10.08 | someHuman | Ok |
| 07:10.24 | someHuman | What do you expect to see? |
| 07:10.38 | shingouz | someHuman: the hardware you have |
| 07:10.40 | grnmtn | someHuman: it will tell us what hardware your laptop has |
| 07:11.03 | someHuman | I've got network controller: Ralink corp. Device 3290 |
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| 07:11.47 | grnmtn | someHuman: directions are here, I'm looking them over now: https://wiki.debian.org/rt3290 |
| 07:12.05 | someHuman | Cool ty! |
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| 07:13.27 | grnmtn | someHuman: they look reasonable to me, try following them and see how it goes |
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| 07:13.40 | someHuman | Yeah, thanks! |
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| 07:28.32 | Ritzton | Hello |
| 07:28.57 | Ritzton | I would like to know how can I know why my server has shutdown ? Mar 6 02:02:47 vpsXXXX shutdown[9929]: shutting down for system halt |
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| 07:29.42 | pi___ | Ritzton: try to look at logs |
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| 07:30.56 | Ritzton | that's what I am doing I am looking at syslog but I can't find why ! |
| 07:31.40 | pi___ | Ritzton: in /var/log/ there are more logs |
| 07:32.41 | ChrisH | Ritzton: paste the messages on paste.debian.net include min 20 lines before and after that shutdown. But it looks like someone issues a shutdown, either as command or as APCI request or as it seems to be a VPS the host was halted |
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| 07:37.21 | Ritzton | ChrisH> http://pastebin.com/V6inx1fU |
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| 07:37.44 | Ritzton | why the lines after would be useful ? |
| 07:37.51 | pi___ | http://pastebin.com/V6inx1fU |
| 07:38.05 | pi___ | sorry |
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| 07:38.51 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 07:39.11 | grnmtn | someHuman: is that a Hello from your wifi? :) |
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| 07:39.23 | someHuman | Haha, nope. |
| 07:39.26 | someHuman | Still from cable. |
| 07:39.29 | grnmtn | someHuman: awww, too bad |
| 07:39.31 | someHuman | Haha! |
| 07:39.40 | grnmtn | someHuman: how far did you get? |
| 07:39.42 | someHuman | Am having trouble with the link. |
| 07:40.21 | grnmtn | someHuman: were you able to follow the instructions on the wiki ok? |
| 07:40.52 | Ritzton | ChrisH> No idea why my system has shut down ? what sould I do ? |
| 07:41.08 | ChrisH | Ritzton: is that a provider hosted box? |
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| 07:41.16 | someHuman | Yes |
| 07:41.32 | someHuman | Am stuck at get the linux-image though. |
| 07:41.34 | grnmtn | someHuman: Good - what devices does "ifconfig -a" list now? |
| 07:41.38 | grnmtn | someHuman: ok |
| 07:41.45 | someHuman | Haven't done them all yet. |
| 07:41.53 | Ritzton | ChrisH> Yes I am renting the virtual server, it is not hosted in my place |
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| 07:41.57 | grnmtn | someHuman: what's the problem with the linux-image? |
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| 07:42.07 | someHuman | Can you send me the link again? |
| 07:42.13 | someHuman | Am connected to cable now. |
| 07:42.16 | grnmtn | someHuman: https://wiki.debian.org/rt3290 |
| 07:42.17 | someHuman | Do you have an easier way? |
| 07:42.29 | someHuman | To setup both cable and wifi? |
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| 07:42.43 | pi___ | Ritzton: for first time, or more? |
| 07:43.00 | someHuman | This is what it told me, E: The value 'wheezy-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 07:43.06 | grnmtn | someHuman: unfortunately, it can be difficult to run debian on new hardware, since debian releases are built for stability, rather supporting new systems |
| 07:43.18 | someHuman | Excluding the smiley haha lol that. |
| 07:43.26 | someHuman | Crap! :( |
| 07:43.32 | someHuman | That's dissapointing? |
| 07:43.47 | someHuman | Well so far this is definitely one of the best OS I used. |
| 07:43.52 | someHuman | And now am sad :( |
| 07:43.56 | grnmtn | someHuman: I think you can get it to work, just saying that I don't think there's an easier way. Anyway - |
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| 07:44.03 | someHuman | Ok ok |
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| 07:44.35 | grnmtn | someHuman: can you make sure the line "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free" is in your /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
| 07:45.22 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 07:46.02 | someHuman | It is. |
| 07:46.17 | someHuman | I'll show you my sources.list file. |
| 07:46.29 | ShapeShifter499 | I did a scp copy on my iptables-persistent rules and iptables-persistent doesn't want to load them, any ideas? |
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| 07:46.43 | grnmtn | someHuman: that would be helpful |
| 07:46.46 | Ritzton | pi___> it is the first time in 1 month I started renting it that the server is shutting down with no reason |
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| 07:46.52 | someHuman | grnmtn: http://paste.debian.net/85587/ |
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| 07:47.59 | grnmtn | someHuman: looks like you have a type: debian is mispelled |
| 07:48.00 | ChrisH | Ritzton: then ask your provider what happened. Maybe they did some updates on the host. |
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| 07:48.08 | pi___ | Ritzton: what about space on disk? |
| 07:48.23 | ShapeShifter499 | manually loading the same exact file using "iptables-restore < /etc/iptables/rules.v4" works |
| 07:48.27 | someHuman | Ah lol |
| 07:49.07 | Ritzton | pi___> I do have more than 40gb available |
| 07:49.15 | pi___ | http://pastebin.com/V6inx1fU |
| 07:49.54 | Ritzton | ChrisH> asking my provider ? well yes but it would be good in my log if I could be sure it is provider's fault |
| 07:50.15 | pi___ | Ritzton: yes, it ok |
| 07:50.16 | someHuman | E: The value 'wheezy-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 07:50.20 | someHuman | grnmtn: E: The value 'wheezy-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 07:50.28 | someHuman | Excluding the smiley/ |
| 07:50.31 | someHuman | .* |
| 07:50.50 | pi___ | Ritzton: can you know, when was halt? |
| 07:50.51 | grnmtn | someHuman: did you run "aptitude update" again after fixing the typo? |
| 07:51.04 | grnmtn | someHuman: make sure you run it as root, or with sudo |
| 07:51.24 | someHuman | Ok ok |
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| 07:51.53 | Ritzton | pi___> yes I know it http://pastebin.com/V6inx1fU : about 2 am |
| 07:52.00 | someHuman | grnmtn: E: The value 'wheezy-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 07:52.10 | someHuman | Still the same. |
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| 07:52.49 | grnmtn | someHuman: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy"? |
| 07:53.05 | pi___ | Ritzton: yes, so, ask your provider, whats was going on |
| 07:53.36 | someHuman | grnmtn: http://paste.debian.net/85588/ |
| 07:54.29 | grnmtn | someHuman: that suggest that it's not seeing the new repo. how about pastebin the output of "sudo aptitude update"? |
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| 07:55.49 | someHuman | grnmtn: http://paste.debian.net/85590/ |
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| 07:57.11 | grnmtn | someHuman: got it - one more thing to fix: the address should be http://http.debian.net/debian/ |
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| 07:57.23 | grnmtn | someHuman: note that second http |
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| 07:59.17 | someHuman | ok |
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| 08:01.45 | grnmtn | someHuman: be back in a 10 min or so |
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| 08:02.42 | someHuman | grnmtn: Ok ok |
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| 08:05.54 | Lope | I'm setting up servers from a net install CD. each server is the same. I want to avoid needing to respond to all of the prompts and wait inbetween each prompt. |
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| 08:06.50 | Lope | So if possible, I'd like to just clone any one of the server's I've already setup onto new hard drives so I can just plug them in and boot. the only difference is the HDD sizes vary. |
| 08:06.55 | Lope | what do you advise? |
| 08:07.20 | OpenTokix | Lope: preseed! |
| 08:07.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | someHuman, what command gave you that error? |
| 08:07.35 | OpenTokix | Lope: hold on, I will pastebin mine for you and explain in pm what setup it gives. |
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| 08:09.11 | Shanx | hello |
| 08:09.35 | Shanx | i've just installed debian testing with xfce |
| 08:09.46 | Shanx | but i can't open a term |
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| 08:10.08 | Shanx | the term closes itself instantly. |
| 08:10.24 | Shanx | (the xfce term, but also other like rxvt) |
| 08:10.46 | Shanx | and i can't log in tty (i think it is the same issue) |
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| 08:13.33 | grnmtn | someHuman: I'm back - any luck? |
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| 08:18.28 | r4n4 | hello. Anyone can tell me please? is "sudo su -" the same as "sudo -i" ? |
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| 08:19.22 | grnmtn | r4n4: I don't think they are the same |
| 08:19.40 | lisbeth | r4n4 I don't know off the top of my head, but that is something that should be standard across almost all linux setups. So if you don't find out here, you can someplace else. |
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| 08:20.24 | grnmtn | r4n4: if you look at your environment variables with each (with the printenv command), you'll see that there are differences. I think one take sthe environment the user you elevate from, one doe snot |
| 08:20.28 | Lope | preseed looks good but for my needs I would prefer to just clone a completed server install |
| 08:20.46 | Lope | how can I clone an existing debian installation onto a new hard drive (of possibly different size) |
| 08:21.00 | Lope | and then will it be okay to just boot it, even though the hardware may be slightly different? |
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| 08:22.23 | grnmtn | Lope: you could copy an entire drive with something like dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb, and it should boot |
| 08:22.43 | grnmtn | Lope: that assumes you're copying to a drive that is equal in size or larger though |
| 08:23.06 | grnmtn | Lope: there will be some things to fix, like udev rules for the network devices |
| 08:23.24 | behruz | New user from iran... |
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| 08:23.36 | grnmtn | Lope: be very careful with the dd command though, since you could easily accidentally wipe the wrong drive if the syntax is wrong |
| 08:23.58 | grnmtn | Lope: I'd also suggest looking at using clonezilla |
| 08:24.01 | Lope | for sure, familiar with that danger. |
| 08:24.12 | Lope | yeah, using a tool seems like a very good idea |
| 08:24.23 | Lope | what do you mean about the udev stuff? |
| 08:24.35 | Lope | also what about each hard drive having its own UUID with grub etc? |
| 08:24.47 | Lope | wouldn't that uniqueness get messed up by doing a DD? |
| 08:25.08 | grnmtn | Lope: your network interface names (e.g. eth0, wlan0, eth1) are tied to the MAC addresses of your network cards |
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| 08:25.53 | r4n4 | grnmtn: hmm... I opened two ssh windows next-to-next and on one I used "sudo -i" and on the other "sudo su -" and the I executed "printenv". The output looks the same. |
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| 08:26.09 | grnmtn | Lope: since your network cards on the cloned computer would have different mac addresses, it will assign them new names . . . and your network settings from /etc/network/interfaces won't match the new names |
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| 08:26.59 | grnmtn | Lope: this explanation would be relevant, even though this is talking about cloning virtual machines: http://www.codeblog.ch/2012/06/no-network-in-debian-after-cloning-with-virtualbox/ |
| 08:27.02 | lisbeth | r4n4 it can be very difficult to determine if two different commands will always have the same output. It might help if you explain what you are using them for. |
| 08:27.06 | jsonlee | when using vi, suddenly pressing hjkl or :wq, etc. functions does not work. I remember long time ago I found a weblink saying that is because the user press some combination key, but right now I don't know how to escape from that mode. |
| 08:27.12 | jsonlee | any hint? |
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| 08:27.31 | jsonlee | only array keys work. |
| 08:27.49 | grnmtn | r4n4: that could very well be, if you haven't done any customizations that would change them. I'm a little unsure though, I had to ask a similar question in here earlier today :) |
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| 08:33.51 | behruz | Cab i ask a question ? |
| 08:33.57 | lisbeth | yes |
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| 08:36.11 | behruz | I have a debian 7 with windows 7..... |
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| 08:36.52 | jsonlee | is there any combination key that could possibly cause vim hjkl stop working? |
| 08:36.53 | behruz | is it ok with 3 partitions? |
| 08:37.34 | kanliot | number of partitions is never the problem |
| 08:38.11 | lisbeth | behruz As long as the partitions are big enough to support their respective OS's then it should be fine |
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| 08:38.30 | lisbeth | behruz, windows needs probably about 20 gigs just for the base system. You'll need alot more than that for your files |
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| 08:39.01 | behruz | Ok |
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| 08:39.45 | lisbeth | behruz, also make sure to install linux second so you have grub |
| 08:39.58 | lisbeth | it's harder the other way around |
| 08:40.21 | behruz | I did that |
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| 08:41.02 | lisbeth | behruz, Although it's not about Debian, the arch linux wiki has a great guide about partitioning |
| 08:41.16 | behruz | Sudebiar.webs.com |
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| 08:41.25 | lisbeth | which should stay true to debian on most things besides btrfs |
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| 08:42.10 | behruz | Zzzz |
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| 08:45.30 | behruz | For graphics purpose wich destro? |
| 08:45.43 | lisbeth | behruz, I don't understand your question? |
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| 08:46.53 | behruz | can i install new destro nearby them? |
| 08:47.26 | lisbeth | Behruz, as long as you keep adding new partitions you can keep adding as many distros as you want |
| 08:47.35 | lisbeth | behruz, but I don't understand your first question |
| 08:48.02 | behruz | i use wine with flash 8 professional |
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| 08:50.17 | behruz | I have problems for swf makers like flash |
| 08:50.52 | lisbeth | behruz, you may consider looking for alternatives to it made for linux |
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| 08:51.08 | behruz | Linux has it ? |
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| 08:51.39 | lisbeth | behruz, I wouldn't know I don't make things out of flash. |
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| 08:52.48 | behruz | Ok great |
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| 09:32.12 | waqstar | Tlin, Makejail |
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| 09:34.27 | tMH | hello everyone! |
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| 09:34.51 | tMH | ppl, I am a bit new to the system, previously I'm as an advanced user installed ubuntu several times. |
| 09:35.08 | tMH | yesterday I wanted to install debian 7.4.0 stable. did it and got network problem. |
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| 09:35.21 | tMH | (vmware workstation has been used for the install) |
| 09:35.30 | yalex | Hello trying to set up active directory integration with raspbian and our server. When I try to login with an AD user/password it says You have been logged on using cached credentials. and then shows the password prompt again |
| 09:35.52 | waqstar | tMH, What problem exactly? |
| 09:36.06 | tMH | I put network settings to /etc/network/interfaces, did set-up Bridged settin in vmware |
| 09:36.13 | tMH | and I don't see my network is working |
| 09:36.22 | yalex | Any hints as to how to get it working? |
| 09:36.28 | tMH | when I trying to restart networking via service - all comes as ok |
| 09:36.45 | tMH | but then eth0 disappears. when I do 'ifup eth0' - network comes alive. |
| 09:36.49 | tMH | waqstar - can you tell me - what it can be? |
| 09:36.54 | tMH | thanks in advance:) |
| 09:36.55 | waqstar | Thms, lets see your network config |
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| 09:37.14 | tMH | cannot do it right now, but - usual network config, believe me. |
| 09:37.20 | tMH | system's one. |
| 09:37.33 | tMH | # The primary network interface |
| 09:37.33 | tMH | allow-hotplug eth0 |
| 09:37.33 | tMH | iface eth0 inet static |
| 09:37.33 | tMH | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:37.33 | tMH | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:37.39 | waqstar | lol |
| 09:37.43 | brightkill | :D |
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| 09:37.47 | tMH | sorry!!! |
| 09:37.53 | tMH | pasted more than wanted to... |
| 09:38.00 | tMH | anyway, you see it. |
| 09:38.00 | waqstar | paste and send the link here |
| 09:38.03 | tMH | ok |
| 09:38.16 | tMH | I'll paste similar system I installed on yesterday morning. |
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| 09:38.27 | tMH | the only difference is ip and gateway on both systems. |
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| 09:39.47 | tMH | waqstar - http://fpaste.org/82877/13940987/ |
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| 09:40.15 | tMH | something like that. Cannot access the host itself right now, but I am completely sure that interfaces file in there is on 99% the same as I pasted. |
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| 09:40.28 | tMH | dns-search is used, too, just removed it. |
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| 09:41.49 | tMH | the main question is - service networking stop && service networking start -- passed ok, all green. |
| 09:41.56 | tMH | no network and _no_ eth0. |
| 09:42.15 | tMH | right after that I do 'ifup eth0' - network's getting live .. |
| 09:42.16 | brightkill | tMH, maybe you need a driver? |
| 09:42.30 | _|x|_ | trying to diagnose a traceback from x, could it be my fault, or am i stuck with the black box of this driver?: http://bpaste.net/show/X1yknhxmWMRBdVKWGIus/ |
| 09:42.33 | tMH | brightkill - for vmware? don't thing so.. |
| 09:42.36 | tMH | g=j |
| 09:42.38 | _|x|_ | whenever someone free :P |
| 09:42.40 | rical | is it possible to print only foo with egrep here: echo "0foo0" | egrep -o "0(*)0" ? |
| 09:42.42 | tMH | g=k, it was. |
| 09:42.50 | rical | it will print 0foo0 |
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| 09:43.33 | tMH | I tried to 'play' in vmware workstation network types as Bridge and as NAT. no difference.. |
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| 09:43.50 | tMH | btw, debian itself did founf vmxnet w/ no problems. |
| 09:43.53 | tMH | found. |
| 09:44.16 | tMH | anyway, ppl, I'll come here when I'll reach home, and I'll show what where. |
| 09:44.29 | tMH | thanks for answers, be back at the evening. bb, good day! |
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| 09:45.19 | rozie | rical: everyting is possible, but too few data |
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| 09:45.39 | rozie | you want first occurence of foo? all? |
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| 09:46.18 | rical | in the string i sent $ echo "0foo0" where foo isn't known |
| 09:46.42 | rical | so it's basically egrep sub-string/pattern print |
| 09:46.52 | rozie | I'd go Perl. echo "0foo0" | perl -ne 'print "$1\n" if /(foo)/' |
| 09:47.39 | rical | foo isn't known |
| 09:47.56 | rical | the string wrapping foo is known |
| 09:48.22 | CissWit | rical: echo "0foo0" | grep -Po "0\K(.*)(?=0)" |
| 09:48.35 | rical | so echo "0foo0" | egrep -o "0.*0" is very close but it prints the zeroes |
| 09:49.13 | rical | CissWit: cheers, that works. Seams very magical :) |
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| 09:49.27 | rical | oh, perl regexp matching |
| 09:49.29 | rical | intersting |
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| 09:50.24 | mouz\lex | can anyone suggest the best supported usb wifi adapter? Since my laptop has 8188CE....... |
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| 09:54.45 | _|x|_ | alternatively, if i have a backtrace from x, and multiple things are causing it to crash, what package do i report as the issue? |
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| 09:57.08 | yalex | anyone famliar with active directory integratio? |
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| 09:59.24 | rozie | rical: echo "0foo0" | perl -ne 'print "$1\n" if /0(.*)0/' |
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| 09:59.49 | rozie | I assume leading and ending 0 are known |
| 10:00.15 | rozie | and only one 0 is "delimiter" |
| 10:00.19 | rozie | beause echo "00foo00" | perl -ne 'print "$1\n" if /0(.*)0/' |
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| 10:00.59 | rozie | if not, you can go echo "00foo00" | perl -ne 'print "$1\n" if /0+(.*?)0+/' |
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| 10:03.54 | _|x|_ | sorry i was uninstalling the beta driver(if anyone bothered responding) |
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| 10:16.17 | changeguy | can anyone explain to me why my ssh client disconnects after a period of inactivity |
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| 10:17.37 | Syntaxerror | because security. Also, your client should re-establish the connection transparently |
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| 10:20.19 | waqstar | changeguy, what is the error? |
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| 10:24.13 | sybariten | hello! |
| 10:24.29 | viscera | sybariten, yo |
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| 10:25.08 | sybariten | i was gonna say "i'll get back right soon with a question" but i just realized the machine in questin might be runnign ubuntu , not debian, hahaha |
| 10:25.20 | sybariten | smooth |
| 10:26.08 | Syntaxerror | sybariten: close enough :) |
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| 10:34.03 | yalex | Hello can't seem to get AD integration working on debian, it seems to accept the username and password but then shows the password prompt again |
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| 10:37.45 | DotHack | yalex: what are you doing to accomplish the authentication |
| 10:38.12 | DotHack | yalex: are you using windind? |
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| 10:39.04 | yalex | use I am DotHack |
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| 10:39.30 | finga | i get this http://pastebin.com/3iVgDQGY error with postfix, using this aliases http://pastebin.com/pg3et4um and this postfix config http://pastebin.com/04KYZB2X |
| 10:40.07 | yalex | DotHack: followed http://www.finnie.org/text/debian-domain-auth.html |
| 10:40.45 | DotHack | yalex: does wbinfo -u list all users? |
| 10:41.09 | yalex | yes it does DotHack and wbinfo -g lists the groups |
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| 10:41.19 | DotHack | yalex: ok and getent passwd |
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| 10:41.26 | DotHack | yalex: does that list all users |
| 10:42.07 | yalex | no getent passwd only shows local users DotHack |
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| 10:44.29 | monkwitdafunk | Any examples of wbinfo with pipes and redirection? |
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| 10:48.27 | asteriskATmarmuD | nstalled xymon-client via apt-get on debian 7.2 any idea why my server only shows info on the connection of the added host? |
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| 10:50.03 | DotHack | yalex: then your /etc/nsswitch.conf is not ok, can you paste it? |
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| 10:51.12 | yalex | sure will use pastebin |
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| 10:51.55 | yalex | DotHack: http://pastebin.com/uymWqpJN |
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| 10:52.43 | DotHack | yalex: is this i good paste? you are missing the p at asswd and the g in roup |
| 10:53.41 | yalex | DotHack: the lack of p was a mistake in pasting - the g in group wasn't there |
| 10:54.40 | DotHack | now try again the getent passwd |
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| 10:55.08 | yalex | still only local gorups DotHack |
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| 10:56.13 | DotHack | yalex: can you paste smb.conf |
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| 11:00.48 | yalex | http://paste.debian.net/85608/ |
| 11:00.52 | yalex | DotHack: http://paste.debian.net/85608/ |
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| 11:02.13 | DotHack | yalex: can you uncomment line 241 and 242 and restart winbind |
| 11:02.15 | Roland- | hello how can I check tcp conectivity on a port? |
| 11:02.18 | Roland- | beside telnet ? |
| 11:02.20 | DotHack | then try getent passwd again |
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| 11:03.28 | yalex | and its in! thanks DotHack |
| 11:04.02 | DotHack | yalex: ok but this doest mean your authentication is working... |
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| 11:04.36 | yalex | how can we check authentication? DotHack |
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| 11:04.54 | DotHack | yalex login with a user and check auth.log |
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| 11:09.39 | rical | rozie: thanks |
| 11:09.48 | rical | (a bit late) |
| 11:09.56 | yalex | DotHack: synekaboardroom pam_mklocaluser[4807]: pam_unix(login:session): session opened for user alex by pi(uid=0) |
| 11:10.30 | DotHack | yalex: ? |
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| 11:10.54 | yalex | Yes DotHack is says session opened |
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| 11:11.27 | DotHack | yalex: but you cant login? |
| 11:11.57 | yalex | DotHack it logged in |
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| 11:12.30 | DotHack | yalex: nice! |
| 11:12.49 | DotHack | it was probaly to lacking g in groups |
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| 11:13.11 | yalex | Thanks DotHack |
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| 11:13.39 | DotHack | yalex: np! |
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| 11:19.05 | changeguy | is there a setting in ssh that changes the timeout length |
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| 11:20.52 | ChrisH | changeguy: man sshd_config and search for timeout |
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| 12:21.23 | Ritzton | I mean if I am doing su "anotherUser" -c ./myCommand, I will not have the env variables that is inside the .bashrc of the user ? |
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| 12:23.56 | makubi^ | Hi there. I want to install a conffile under /etc/foo/bar.conf when installing my deb-package. how can I handle this? do I just have to create foo/bar.conf in my package root and enter it in in debian/conffiles ? |
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| 12:29.56 | themill | makubi^: Are you using debhelper to build the package (you probably should be) |
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| 12:32.37 | cooldharma06 | hi all |
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| 12:33.05 | Ritzton | I don't understand how I can start my node.js from my init.d script, I am doing "su user -c "screen -dmS node_app"" but then I don't know what to do to launch the app |
| 12:33.24 | makubi^ | themill: yep, using debuild |
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| 12:33.47 | cooldharma06 | how we can convert the iso image to .img file..:) any suggestions.. |
| 12:33.52 | themill | makubi^: any files your package ships in /etc are automatically conffiles then |
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| 12:34.17 | makubi^ | themill: currently i use pck_name.install to copy the config files over and then debian/config + debian/postinst to use debconf to read missing values |
| 12:34.19 | themill | cooldharma06: .img is pretty meaningless. What are you really trying to achieve? |
| 12:34.30 | Syntaxerror | Roland-: console-access on the host? |
| 12:34.36 | themill | makubi^: you shouldn't be editing conffiles from postinst |
| 12:34.39 | makubi^ | themill: even in etc/foo/bar/.../ ? meaning subdirectories |
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| 12:34.55 | makubi^ | themill: well I thought of setting conffile-values there via sed |
| 12:35.07 | cooldharma06 | themill. i am creating vm form my hypervisor for that i am in need of .img file. |
| 12:35.08 | themill | makubi^: postinst shouldn't change conffiles. |
| 12:35.46 | themill | cooldharma06: .img isn't a file format. |
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| 12:36.54 | makubi^ | themill: well, http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=debconf-devel&sektion=7 told me to do so |
| 12:37.01 | cooldharma06 | themill. mistakenly typed not file.. i have os.iso file. now i want to convert into os.img |
| 12:37.07 | makubi^ | themill: the debconf-devel manpages states that |
| 12:37.24 | makubi^ | themill: "And the postinst will look something like this:" |
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| 12:37.53 | makubi^ | themill: they substitude values via sed at the end of the file |
| 12:38.11 | themill | makubi^: I assume they are not conffiles in that example |
| 12:38.32 | makubi^ | themill: "CONFIGFILE=/etc/foo.conf" |
| 12:39.00 | themill | makubi^: there's an important difference between a conffile and a configuration file. conffile has a particular meaning in packaging and is specially handled by dpkg |
| 12:39.23 | themill | cooldharma06: that doesn't tell me anything more. ".img" means nothing. |
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| 12:39.56 | makubi^ | themill: ok, so this is a conffile and a configuration file |
| 12:40.09 | makubi^ | themill: because it is under /etc |
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| 12:40.52 | cooldharma06 | thanks for your response themill..:) |
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| 12:41.06 | themill | cooldharma06: what are you *really* trying to do? |
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| 12:41.22 | makubi^ | themill: nevertheless, more important: what's the right way to handle the case of using a configuration file as template and reading two values via debconf? so the right handling of configuration files |
| 12:41.30 | utug12 | hello im need help in partitioning, i need extended partition if im seperating home and root into two partition |
| 12:42.30 | cooldharma06 | it will irritate only i think.. but you only asked. i am using xen hypervisor to create virtual machines. for that i need os.img now i have os.iso. i dont |
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| 12:43.19 | themill | cooldharma06: you still haven't explained what "os.img" is. Is it supposed to be a virtual disk for the guest system? |
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| 12:43.59 | themill | makubi^: so the sort of code in that example is ok, but the file being changed is *not* a conffile. |
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| 12:44.05 | cooldharma06 | windows.iso file |
| 12:44.41 | themill | the installer? |
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| 12:45.09 | cooldharma06 | xen in debian flavor (boss) |
| 12:45.33 | themill | you don't need to do anything to an installer image |
| 12:45.42 | themill | (other than run it, of course...) |
| 12:45.52 | makubi^ | themill: ok, I thought every file that will go to etc/ is a conffile. but howevery, how can I treat it like a configuration file (like asking user to enter data) plus also handle it as a conffile so the user will be asked if it changed? |
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| 12:46.31 | themill | makubi^: you might like to look at ucf |
| 12:47.30 | cooldharma06 | thanks themill i ll try it and then i will tell you..:) |
| 12:47.46 | makubi^ | themill: I thought that what ucf does would debian/conffiles do too ? |
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| 12:48.03 | themill | makubi^: ucf doesn't deal with conffiles. |
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| 12:50.04 | makubi^ | themill: no, but what do I need ucf for if I have the conffile-functionality? I did read that files that are in debian/conffiles will be handled like what I did read about ucf now |
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| 12:50.33 | makubi^ | themill: like being installed on first install and copared on upgrades |
| 12:51.02 | themill | makubi^: you want to modify the configuration from postinst based on debconf, correct? |
| 12:51.41 | makubi^ | themill: to be honest, that's what I thought I SHOULD do but I am more than happy if you tell me what's the right way to do so |
| 12:52.06 | themill | makubi^: that's fine to do, but you cannot do so with a conffile. |
| 12:52.38 | themill | (the easiest way of doing this is to have the debconf-managed config in a separate configuration file, using a conf.d style directory layout) |
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| 12:53.26 | makubi^ | themill: okay, currently I do have my configuration files under /etc/foo/bar.conf, so not in root /etc |
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| 12:54.08 | themill | makubi^: the location of the file isn't really important |
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| 12:54.55 | makubi^ | themill: now I am confused. I thought it will be treated as a conffile automatically if it is in /etc/ |
| 12:55.26 | themill | You don't ship files in /etc if you use ucf |
| 12:56.16 | makubi^ | themill: but in /usr/share/pkg/conf.d ? |
| 12:57.01 | themill | no, /usr/share/pkg |
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| 12:58.47 | makubi^ | themill: aren't there other packages that do install their files to /etc/, then debconf them and also have that diff-functionality (like asking the user if he wants to keep his configuration or take the maintainer ones) on upgrades? |
| 12:58.47 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 12:59.05 | someHuman | grnmtn: Hey dude! |
| 12:59.06 | themill | makubi^: no |
| 12:59.16 | someHuman | I still have the same problem. |
| 13:00.40 | themill | makubi^: well, as I said earlier, they have some conffiles that they do NOT edit from postinst and some non-conffiles that they do. But you wanted 3-way-diff and prompting on the debconf-edited files which means using ucf. |
| 13:01.06 | someHuman | grnmtn: Hey dude are you there? |
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| 13:03.42 | makubi^ | themill: isn't that what I always want? why would I install a configuration file the user can edit and then override it on upgrades (when it is no conffile) |
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| 13:04.17 | makubi^ | themill: if I do not want the user to edit it, I do not provide it as a configuration file |
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| 13:04.39 | themill | makubi^: correct. |
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| 13:05.45 | makubi^ | themill: so why would I use debconf + postinst to ask the user to enter data but not do a 3-way-diff on upgrades? |
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| 13:07.02 | themill | you wouldn't, unless the configuration file the debconf information was going into *only* has the debconf provided information in it so you don't need to upgrade that file ever |
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| 13:13.55 | makubi^^ | themill: sorry, got disconnected. did you write something after [14:08] <makubi^> ? |
| 13:15.19 | themill | [00:07] <themill> you wouldn't, unless the configuration file the debconf information was going into *only* has the debconf provided information in it so you don't need to upgrade that file ever |
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| 13:17.49 | makubi^^ | themill: ok, thank you very much. so ucf can take care of input read via debconf and 3-way-diff ? |
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| 13:18.51 | themill | makubi^^: yes. But don't over-engineer these things. The best maintainer scripts are the shortest (i.e. non-existent) ones. |
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| 13:19.51 | ksk | ,versions wordpress |
| 13:19.52 | judd | Package: wordpress on i386 -- squeeze: 3.6.1+dfsg-1~deb6u1; squeeze-security: 3.6.1+dfsg-1~deb6u1; wheezy: 3.6.1+dfsg-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 3.6.1+dfsg-1~deb7u1; jessie: 3.8.1+dfsg1-2; sid: 3.8.1+dfsg1-2 |
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| 13:21.01 | dokma | when searching with less it always positions on the beginning of the line instead of on the match itself |
| 13:21.07 | dokma | this is rather annoying on large lines |
| 13:21.12 | dokma | any remedy for this? |
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| 13:33.23 | gregc2 | thanks man ;-) |
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| 13:36.17 | someHuman | You there? |
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| 13:40.35 | shovel_boss | hello |
| 13:40.40 | someHuman | Hello! ;) |
| 13:40.42 | shovel_boss | can someone tell me how do i get this header |
| 13:40.43 | shovel_boss | fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers. /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system. |
| 13:41.16 | babilen | shovel_boss: You want to follow https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
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| 13:41.55 | makubi^^ | themill: ok, but the problem is, we really need both of it. when somebody installs the package, there are given values and some values that have to be entered by the use. on upgrades I have to ensure that I do not override any values... |
| 13:42.52 | babilen | shovel_boss: Do *not* install the driver using the installer from amd.com as we neither support nor recommend it. If you want to do that however you should seek support in #ati rather than #debian. Using the DKMS packages has the distinct advantage that you don't have to recompile the module manually (or even remember that you have to) in case of kernel upgrades and whatnot. |
| 13:43.06 | themill | makubi^^: correct. |
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| 13:43.50 | someHuman | babilen: Hey dude! ;) |
| 13:44.03 | someHuman | babilen: Still can't find my Windows lol. |
| 13:44.09 | someHuman | But Windows is still in my PC lol. |
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| 13:44.31 | someHuman | babilen: Will Debian be running into any trouble anytime soon? |
| 13:44.37 | someHuman | Like supporting new stuff like hardware. |
| 13:44.42 | shovel_boss | babilen, i cant use the deb fglrx driver |
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| 13:44.47 | shovel_boss | it doesnt allow me to mine |
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| 13:46.49 | _|x|_ | how do i set radeon to the first autoconfigured driver ([ 328.754] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1), and how do i get xrandr to give me something other than "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default |
| 13:47.23 | _|x|_ | because the suggestion for the latter is to generate a xorg.conf |
| 13:47.45 | _|x|_ | but xorg -configure has a problem with matching the number of screens to number of devices |
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| 13:48.08 | someHuman | babilen: Hey dude, you got my question? |
| 13:48.47 | babilen | shovel_boss: mine? |
| 13:48.57 | shovel_boss | doge |
| 13:48.59 | shovel_boss | im going to mine doge |
| 13:49.09 | babilen | shovel_boss: How is that related to fglrx? |
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| 13:49.16 | shovel_boss | im using my gpu to mine doge |
| 13:49.21 | shovel_boss | i need a driver for it to work :) |
| 13:49.40 | babilen | shovel_boss: Yes, so install it. What's the problem with the DKMS packages? |
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| 13:49.49 | babilen | someHuman: I'd recommend to actually ask the channel |
| 13:49.56 | shovel_boss | babilen, http://pastebin.com/Ws17ythc |
| 13:50.01 | shovel_boss | i got make and gcc |
| 13:50.06 | shovel_boss | but the headers cant find them |
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| 13:50.39 | babilen | shovel_boss: What command is that the output off? |
| 13:50.49 | shovel_boss | i run the installer |
| 13:50.54 | shovel_boss | hit the continue button |
| 13:51.06 | babilen | Of *what* ? |
| 13:51.07 | shovel_boss | and it tells me to go into the log file in usr shares ati |
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| 13:51.14 | shovel_boss | catalyst driver |
| 13:51.23 | shovel_boss | latest full version |
| 13:51.26 | shovel_boss | 13.12 i think |
| 13:51.32 | babilen | shovel_boss: We do not support that. Use the Debian DKMS packages or take it to #ati |
| 13:51.42 | babilen | judd: v fglrx-driver |
| 13:51.44 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:13.12-4~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.2~beta1.3-1; sid/non-free: 1:14.2~beta1.3-1 |
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| 13:52.11 | shovel_boss | babilen, your packages suck for mining cryptocoins |
| 13:52.13 | babilen | shovel_boss: Grab the one from backports if you require that version. But *do not* use the catalyst installer as we neither recommend nor support it. |
| 13:52.14 | shovel_boss | i hope you fix them |
| 13:52.15 | shovel_boss | kthx |
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| 13:53.29 | babilen | shovel_boss: Please keep it civil in here and try to be constructive in your criticism. Statements such as "your packages suck for mining cryptocoins" neither allow us to address the technical issue you seem to face nor are they appreciative of the hard work somebody has done for you to ensure that you can install software easily. |
| 13:54.20 | babilen | shovel_boss: Please take the next five minutes to read the website I linked earlier and to try installing the fglrx-driver packages from Debian. Choose the version from backports if you want. |
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| 13:56.36 | doebi | any recommendations for a xml editor (maybe similar to altovas xmlspy) |
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| 13:57.28 | babilen | someHuman: Honestly, I know little about Windows and am simply not sure what happened there. I'd recommend to gather input from additional people in here and in ##linux |
| 13:57.41 | DaZ | i did most of my xml in vim |
| 13:57.43 | DaZ | ,_, |
| 13:58.06 | makubi^^ | themill: so I'll go looking for the usage of debconf + ucf. currently, I use debconf in debian/config to read / store values and debconf + sed in postinst to set them in my configuration file. where would I use ucf now? |
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| 13:58.49 | doebi | DaZ: hmm thught of that, but all of the windows guys in my course are using fancy bling bling xmlspy, so i thought there is sth similar for debian |
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| 14:00.30 | makubi^^ | themill: would I 1. read values via debconf, 2. generate new configfile with values from debconf and 3. do the 3-way-diff ? |
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| 14:01.26 | babilen | someHuman: I've given you a command to find .efi files in /boot as I assume that you should have something Windows specific there, but that is simply "gut feeling" |
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| 14:05.28 | shovel_boss | i hope you take the meaning of that statement as feedback |
| 14:05.34 | shovel_boss | i did not wish to offend you |
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| 14:06.07 | someHuman | babilen: We had that gut feeling yesterday already lol. |
| 14:06.16 | someHuman | We didn't find anything. |
| 14:06.19 | someHuman | Haha! :P |
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| 14:07.21 | shovel_boss | how do i uninstall this fglrx, 12-6+point, 3.2.0-4-amd64, x86_64 |
| 14:07.22 | Lope | I've written a script that is starting up as a service... it's stuck trying to a PC that's offline. how can I abort the script? ctrl C does not work |
| 14:07.40 | someHuman | Lope: System manager? |
| 14:08.01 | someHuman | Also try using that in terminal. |
| 14:08.08 | someHuman | If it fails, well fuck! :)) |
| 14:08.49 | shovel_boss | plz help |
| 14:09.26 | someHuman | shovel_boss: What's your problem? |
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| 14:09.36 | shovel_boss | i cant uninstall the following driver |
| 14:09.37 | shovel_boss | fglrx, 12-6+point, 3.2.0-4-amd64, x86_64 |
| 14:09.55 | Lope | what is system manager? |
| 14:10.03 | shovel_boss | http://pastebin.com/tvKmAXLW the full log |
| 14:10.25 | shingouz | Lope: do you know the name of the scrit? |
| 14:10.29 | someHuman | Lope: It's the same like task manager |
| 14:10.32 | babilen | dpkg: tell shovel_boss -about remove ati |
| 14:10.42 | shingouz | script... bad keyboard here |
| 14:10.49 | babilen | shovel_boss: But ask #ati -- We really have nothing to do with that installer. |
| 14:10.57 | someHuman | Lope: Ah dude |
| 14:11.04 | someHuman | It seems like your installation was a FAIL! |
| 14:11.04 | someHuman | Haha! |
| 14:11.06 | shovel_boss | i got that package from the debian repositories |
| 14:11.14 | shovel_boss | and i want to get rid of it |
| 14:11.15 | someHuman | It did warned you already about reinstalling/overwriting it lol. |
| 14:11.29 | someHuman | Which mirror are you using? |
| 14:11.29 | Lope | i do know the name of the script, its a custim script I wrote |
| 14:11.30 | shovel_boss | i do not have any amd driver currently installed |
| 14:12.01 | someHuman | What is your graphic card? |
| 14:12.04 | babilen | shovel_boss: "apt-get --purge autoremove fglrx-driver" is probably what you are looking for. Why do you want to remove it all of a sudden? |
| 14:12.08 | shovel_boss | amd r9 290 non x |
| 14:12.14 | shingouz | Lope: in that case, find the PID with ps ax | grep name-of-script and kill it |
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| 14:12.30 | Lope | shingouz: how do I get to the terminal? |
| 14:12.37 | shovel_boss | babilen, the debian driver hardly makes mining profitabile if not at all |
| 14:12.44 | shovel_boss | especially with the new r9 cards |
| 14:12.47 | Lope | because it starts as a service at boot time. If I press ctrl alt f2 etc I get nothing |
| 14:12.56 | Lope | just a blinking cursor |
| 14:13.02 | babilen | shovel_boss: fglrx-driver *is* the catalyst driver. I have no idea why you insist on not using that. |
| 14:13.04 | shingouz | Lope: alt+ctrl+f3 should give you at least one if you do not know here your xterm sits |
| 14:13.37 | shovel_boss | babilen, it needs to be removed for me to get the new catalyst driver |
| 14:13.43 | shingouz | Lope: hmm.. see if you have an xterm on your x somewhere. you should have one |
| 14:13.56 | shovel_boss | that package came with "aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,')" |
| 14:14.00 | babilen | judd: v fglrx-driver |
| 14:14.01 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:13.12-4~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.2~beta1.3-1; sid/non-free: 1:14.2~beta1.3-1 |
| 14:14.15 | wols | babilen: the driver in debian non-free is unlikely to suppot r9 290. the r9 290 came out september 2013 |
| 14:14.17 | babilen | shovel_boss: 13.12 is packaged in wheezy-backports |
| 14:14.34 | babilen | Do you require 14.* ? |
| 14:14.37 | someHuman | Lope: Press your windows key/super key then type terminal. |
| 14:14.46 | shovel_boss | i need 13.12 |
| 14:14.46 | lapache | Hello, on my ssh session, unicode characters appearss like a square whith the 4 numbers inside. I am with UTF-8 charmap on client and host ... how can i see these characters |
| 14:14.47 | someHuman | If you've used Fedora Linux, it's similar to that. |
| 14:14.56 | shovel_boss | it comes with the system? |
| 14:14.58 | someHuman | I mean, if you've used GNOME Fedora Linux. |
| 14:14.59 | someHuman | Lol. |
| 14:15.01 | babilen | wols: Well, this is the first time in this discussion that we actually hear some technical reasons and not just "the Debian packages suck" |
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| 14:15.50 | wols | babilen: I didn't disagree that shovel_boss is a moron... (and yes, I write this as intended) |
| 14:16.07 | shovel_boss | welp |
| 14:16.17 | shovel_boss | i already purged the fglrx driver |
| 14:16.39 | someHuman | shovel_boss: What language did you use to write the script? |
| 14:16.44 | wols | shovel_boss: mining with GPUs is always a loss by now. and the cost of a 290 makes it a bad choice for mining as well. so you already made several grave errors |
| 14:16.50 | Lope | pressing windows key and typing terminal does nothing will try the f3 |
| 14:16.59 | shovel_boss | and it gives the same output in the log files |
| 14:17.08 | shovel_boss | someHuman, i didnt write any script |
| 14:17.08 | someHuman | Lope: WTF? |
| 14:17.09 | babilen | shovel_boss: 13.12 is available from wheezy-backports. If you have a sources.list such as http://paste.debian.net/85629 you can install it with "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install fglrx-driver" |
| 14:17.10 | someHuman | How come? |
| 14:17.22 | someHuman | shovel_boss: Oh maybe it was from the other dude. Haha! |
| 14:17.24 | Lope | ctrl alt F2 and f3 are the same, just a blinking cursor |
| 14:17.26 | someHuman | What DE are you using Lope ? |
| 14:17.32 | someHuman | Lope: Ah |
| 14:17.33 | jmusits | anyone ever seen an issue where gdm fails to load if a monitor is not plugged in at boot? |
| 14:17.34 | Lope | No de installed |
| 14:17.38 | Lope | it's a netinstall |
| 14:17.49 | someHuman | Haha, that's your kernel Lope |
| 14:17.52 | Lope | I;ve got a script running in init.d as boot |
| 14:17.55 | jmusits | running the proprietary nvidia kernel module |
| 14:18.02 | Lope | if I plug in the network cable it starts :p |
| 14:18.14 | someHuman | Lope: What I mean about that is what flavor of Debian is that? |
| 14:18.15 | Lope | but I'd like a way of cancelling the script incase the server is down etc |
| 14:18.26 | Lope | wheezy |
| 14:18.26 | someHuman | Lope: Wait, what is your problem again? Haha! |
| 14:18.28 | shovel_boss | do i need a reboot for fglrx to be removed? |
| 14:18.30 | someHuman | Sorry am in school |
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| 14:18.42 | someHuman | shovel_boss: I was about to say that haha! |
| 14:18.43 | someHuman | Yeah! |
| 14:18.49 | shovel_boss | ok |
| 14:18.49 | jmusits | I get a Fatal - No Screen Found error |
| 14:18.55 | shovel_boss | ^ |
| 14:18.58 | Lope | I've written a custom script that waits to connect to the server before it will run further and complete. |
| 14:18.59 | shovel_boss | i fear this will happen |
| 14:19.03 | shovel_boss | will gnome boot?? |
| 14:19.06 | someHuman | If it doesn't work, do the good 'ol troubleshooting, The hacker mindset. |
| 14:19.06 | someHuman | ;) |
| 14:19.16 | Lope | so if the server is down, it does not complete :) |
| 14:19.21 | someHuman | Did you overwrite you default driver? |
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| 14:19.26 | someHuman | What is your driver? |
| 14:19.31 | Lope | I suppose I could run the script as a background job |
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| 14:19.48 | someHuman | Lol good luck shovel_boss! |
| 14:19.53 | babilen | dpkg: enter |
| 14:19.53 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 14:20.02 | someHuman | Lope: What was you script suppose to do again? |
| 14:20.22 | someHuman | Lol |
| 14:20.24 | babilen | It also helps to actually address people. I have a pretty hard time to follow you people and will therefore work on something else. All the best! |
| 14:20.25 | jmusits | babilen: my apologies |
| 14:20.28 | shingouz | Lope: we have no idea where you can find the terminal, we do not know what you use as a desktop. install xterm (or equivalent) and use that one |
| 14:20.49 | someHuman | Who thought enter key would be a sub. for punctuation? |
| 14:20.57 | someHuman | babilen: Dude! |
| 14:21.05 | someHuman | I've got a problem. |
| 14:21.06 | Lope | this is on a debian server |
| 14:21.10 | Lope | there is no desktop |
| 14:21.18 | someHuman | Lope: Ah |
| 14:21.19 | shingouz | Lope: can you ssh into it? |
| 14:21.26 | someHuman | Lope: So you've got the Debian Server haha! |
| 14:21.44 | Lope | I get this whats funny about that? |
| 14:22.04 | Lope | it's not a biggie, I'll just background start the script so that the system can finish booting. |
| 14:22.15 | shingouz | Lope: just ignore someHuman. can you ssh into the box? |
| 14:22.46 | someHuman | Dudes! |
| 14:22.46 | Guest69421 | Hi guys how can i reach adobe flash without wine with this i need an alternative in debian can you tell me which software |
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| 14:23.23 | mtn | Guest69421: isn't flash in the debian repos? |
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| 14:23.36 | Lope | I can just plug in the network cable, then it boots cos that makes my script happy, I'll just change the script to start in the background. I'm sure that will sort it out |
| 14:23.56 | Guest69421 | Nup |
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| 14:24.20 | mtn | Guest69421: really: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=flashplugin-nonfree |
| 14:24.21 | shingouz | Lope: if you do not need the script at all, do not let it start in the first place or make it manual start |
| 14:24.48 | Lope | I;ve got another issue. When the system boots it says starting MTA: and waits quite a while. I've googled the issue, some people said it was exim4. but I've removed the exim4 package and the same bootup delay persists |
| 14:24.49 | someHuman | Lope: What is the script suppose to do again lol. |
| 14:25.21 | Lope | I need the script, but the script does not need to hold up the boot process |
| 14:25.38 | Guest69421 | I need a animating program in linux |
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| 14:25.41 | Lope | it starts services and mounts stuff and so on |
| 14:25.52 | shingouz | Lope: insert a timeout into the script? |
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| 14:26.21 | mtn | Guest69421: maybe look in the same place I just showed you? |
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| 14:27.19 | Guest69421 | This package is for playing swf files no? |
| 14:27.27 | Lope | shingouz: I'd rather not. if the script aborts the server might as well shut down, because it'll be dead weight. |
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| 14:28.34 | Lope | I;ve got another issue. When the system boots it says starting MTA: and waits quite a while. I've googled the issue, some people said it was exim4. but I've removed the exim4 package and the same bootup delay persists |
| 14:28.40 | shingouz | Lope: you need the script running, there can be no timeout, it slows down the boot but you do not want to remove or modify the script... i am not sure what to do in that case |
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| 14:29.34 | Lope | shingouz: I have two completely separate issues |
| 14:29.52 | shingouz | Lope: i have seen the same thing ages ago, i seem to remember it had something to do with a slightly misconfigured exim4; something with the dns iirc |
| 14:29.54 | Lope | one issue is my startup script prevents the system from booting, I will try sort that issue out myself |
| 14:30.02 | Lope | the other issue is this starting MTA delay. |
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| 14:30.30 | Lope | yes, now I've done apt-get remove --purge exim4... but the starting MTA delay persists |
| 14:30.50 | jargon | is there a way to use wildcards with aptitude? say for example `aptitude purge gwibber-*` ? |
| 14:31.01 | shingouz | Lope: are you sure you do not have another MTA sitting somewhere there |
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| 14:32.17 | shingouz | jargon: apt-get can handle them but you want to be real careful what you use as a wildcard. do a dry run as a test and see what the system wants to do |
| 14:32.17 | Lope | I;m guessing that stands for Mail something something>?? |
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| 14:32.23 | Lope | I've not installed anything mail related |
| 14:33.09 | jargon | shingouz: got it. thanks! |
| 14:33.19 | shingouz | Lope: Mail Transfer Agent |
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| 14:33.57 | shingouz | jargon: do a dry run before pulling the trigger for real. you might hose your system |
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| 14:34.40 | Guest69421 | I need a rfcomm conection i need a gui for ease of use |
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| 14:34.56 | Lope | how can I check if I have any other MTA's installed besides exim4? |
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| 14:36.13 | Guest69421 | gui pachage for connecting is it possible in debian package |
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| 14:37.25 | mtn | Guest69421: did you search the debian package site? |
| 14:38.09 | Guest69421 | Yes and here in linux everything is command |
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| 14:40.19 | Guest69421 | Can i have flash action script 3 in linux i use flash pro 8 with wine |
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| 14:41.50 | Guest69421 | And cs5 not works with wine in xebi |
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| 14:42.16 | Guest69421 | in debian 7 |
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| 15:01.08 | martinfletcher | hey all, i need to recover some files from a dead ssd drive |
| 15:01.15 | martinfletcher | any ideas how i can do this? |
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| 15:02.03 | chosi | how dead is it? |
| 15:02.19 | martinfletcher | i know there are quite a few linux tools for this, most are in kali linux, but can not seem to find any tuts on the internet of how to recover files |
| 15:02.28 | martinfletcher | it is a windows install, bootmgr missing |
| 15:03.31 | DotHack | martinfletcher: try to dd the complete drive to an image file |
| 15:03.47 | martinfletcher | how could i get the files off that? |
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| 15:04.24 | DotHack | martinfletcher: mount with -oloop |
| 15:05.01 | DotHack | martinfletcher: but how dead is it? |
| 15:05.37 | martinfletcher | wont boot at all |
| 15:05.47 | martinfletcher | passes post, then displays bootmgr is missing |
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| 15:07.39 | wols | martinfletcher: are you running kali or debian? |
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| 15:11.17 | DotHack | martinfletcher: does kali find the disk? |
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| 15:13.39 | midacts | is it dangerous to do an in place upgrade from debian 6.0 to debian 7.4 |
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| 15:16.22 | martinfletcher | not running anything yet |
| 15:16.33 | jhutchins | midacts: Best to completely update 6 first. |
| 15:16.42 | martinfletcher | kali is debian based and i use debian for most things, so thought i would ask here |
| 15:17.01 | martinfletcher | just need to know how to do it |
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| 15:17.38 | midacts | jhutchins: do you know of any websites to walk through that process? |
| 15:17.45 | midacts | im just paranoid of breaking everything |
| 15:17.53 | totte | I need to split my root partition (sda3) into two, but I don't have physical access to the machine and can't do it by booting with a live media. What can I do? https://gist.github.com/totte/9391894 |
| 15:18.57 | mtn | martinfletcher: have you tried looking at the disk while running live media? |
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| 15:19.27 | jhutchins | midacts: aptitude update && aptitude upgrade |
| 15:20.06 | petn-randall | midacts: Actually it's the recommended of upgrading. It's fully supported. Just make sure you have backups, that's a general rule. |
| 15:20.32 | blue_sky | just upgraded from squeeze to wheezy, every time I ask dovecot for new mail (pop3) I get old mail too. Any idea what broke between squeeze and wheezy? |
| 15:20.48 | midacts | jhutchins: gotcha, so thats about it? should i update my source.list to wheezy repos before the apt-get update |
| 15:21.01 | midacts | so i wont need to use anything like apt-get dis-upgrade |
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| 15:21.27 | darsie | Can a FIFO store data on disk? |
| 15:21.46 | zykotick9 | !tell midacts about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 15:23.04 | jhutchins | !squeeze->wheezy |
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| 15:23.18 | midacts | zykotick9: that was cool how you did that. i think chapter 4 is this : https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 15:23.36 | jhutchins | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 15:23.36 | dpkg | Read chapter 4 ("Upgrades from Debian 6.0") of the <release notes>. In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "squeeze" to "wheezy" (noting that <wheezy-backports> have changed on the mirrors). apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. See also <squeeze->wheezy failures>. |
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| 15:25.23 | martinfletcher | not yet, wanted to know what i was doing before i start |
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| 15:26.04 | mtn | martinfletcher: you might just be able to copy and paste to a backup device |
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| 15:26.37 | martinfletcher | mt: DotHack: if that is not an option? |
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| 15:27.06 | mtn | martinfletcher: I have never heard of it |
| 15:27.22 | mtn | martinfletcher: why not try the easy way first? |
| 15:27.41 | lapache | I'm using schroot but i have /dev/pts not mounted problem. Is this normal ? |
| 15:28.35 | DotHack | martinfletcher: you have to examine if the disk is fully dead or if just some part of it is dead... boot a live cd of debian or so and see if it detects the disk |
| 15:28.37 | martinfletcher | if i cant copy the files, what then? i will not have access to a pc when i start the recovery |
| 15:29.05 | martinfletcher | mt: DotHack: what if it dont detect the drive? |
| 15:29.16 | DotHack | martinfletcher: then its dead |
| 15:30.45 | martinfletcher | mt: Dothack: if it detects the disk but wont mount? |
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| 15:32.01 | DotHack | martinfletcher: if you suspect the disk is dying you really should use dd to create an image of it... |
| 15:32.21 | DotHack | martinfletcher: before mounting it |
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| 15:34.01 | xreal | What was the name of the backport bot in here? |
| 15:34.27 | xreal | judd?! |
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| 15:36.22 | babilen | xreal: http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ |
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| 15:37.10 | xreal | babilen: thx |
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| 15:38.08 | totte | I need to split my root partition (sda3) into two, but I don't have physical access to the machine and can't do it by booting with a live media. What can I do that only requires a reboot at most? https://gist.github.com/totte/9391894 |
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| 15:40.00 | xreal | I killed judd by "checkbackport libpython3-stdlib --fromrelease sid --torelease squeeze --arch amd64" :) |
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| 15:41.26 | petn-randall | totte: There's no such way, since you can't shrink the mounted root filesystem. |
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| 15:48.24 | martinfletcher | DotHack: mt: Yeah will do a dd on drive, what tools would you suggest after that? |
| 15:50.35 | DotHack | martinfletcher: first fdisk to check if the partition table is there |
| 15:51.23 | babilen | xreal: Nobody is insane enough to attempt that anyway |
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| 15:52.48 | wfq | hi guys |
| 15:53.27 | wfq | I am bit confused on how to install and set java on debian. I have downloaded oracle java both jre and j2se into /usr/lib/jvm |
| 15:54.01 | wfq | I thought that all that I had to do now was to run update-alternatives --config java and debian would give me the possibility of choosing one of the new java packages |
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| 15:55.15 | martinfletcher | DotHack: ok, what then? |
| 15:55.36 | jhutchins | !java |
| 15:55.36 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 15:55.52 | jhutchins | wfq: It'll probably work a lot better if you use the Debian packages. |
| 15:56.00 | DotHack | martinfletcher: if its there youre in luck if not try finding some tool to reconsturct the partiotn table.. |
| 15:56.17 | zykotick9 | wfq: [highly probablity i'm mistaken!] but i'd assume update-alternatives to only offer items installed with DEBs... |
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| 15:56.31 | yossarianuk | hi - can anyone suggest anything like spacewalk (i.e a gui to update multiple servers / see statsus / send remote commands) that works with debian |
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| 15:56.41 | wfq | trying something new |
| 15:56.42 | yossarianuk | spacewalk on debian is barely/semi supported. |
| 15:57.05 | nullbyte_ | i got The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 15:57.11 | nullbyte_ | when i try to install kvirc |
| 15:57.11 | babilen | wfq: You are aware that OpenJDK is the reference implementation for Java 7 aren't you? |
| 15:57.16 | ksk | yossarianuk: you can build your own GUI with some framework like saltstack |
| 15:57.28 | babilen | dpkg: tell wfq about java package |
| 15:58.03 | babilen | wfq: I would, however, recommend to use OpenJDK for 7+ |
| 16:00.20 | wfq | babilen, thanks. But irrespective of that I'd like to know what's usually the way forward in Debian to install an alternative Java. At the end of the day I can have several version coexisting together and choose teh one I want at any time |
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| 16:01.58 | babilen | wfq: Yes, sure. Read the message from our bot for hints on how to use java-package. You can, naturally, do this all manually by using a similar mechanism as the package created by java-package |
| 16:02.12 | xreal | babilen: why? |
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| 16:03.17 | babilen | xreal: Because sid and squeeze are completely different beasts these days, but then this does indeed depend on the specific package that is being backports and blanket statements such as mine are wrong, even if uttered in jest. |
| 16:03.35 | wfq | babilen thanks |
| 16:03.59 | wfq | this https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage makes a lot of sense to me |
| 16:05.12 | applepi | I've got an arm debian system and I'm trying to set the root password, but for some reason when I 'sudo passwd' or 'sudo passwd root' it doesn't stick, it just prompts me to 'Enter a new UNIX password:' and retype it, but it does not become the new password... |
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| 16:06.14 | wfq | sorry what do I need to install to get make-jpkg please? |
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| 16:06.38 | wfq | I am using Debian Jessie |
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| 16:07.14 | towo` | wfq, java-package |
| 16:07.16 | babilen | wfq: .oO( how about java-package ? ) |
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| 16:07.58 | wfq | opps sorry. It was i the tutorial. I missed it |
| 16:08.00 | babilen | wfq: "2. Update the list of available packages and install the java-package package" (from the wiki) |
| 16:08.02 | wfq | really sorry |
| 16:08.09 | babilen | np ;) |
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| 16:11.02 | nullbyte_ | when i try to install kvirc i got unmet dependecies? |
| 16:11.29 | arun_ | hi Debian people, we have created a channel in irc.spotchat.org called #debian-talk , please help use withstand that channel !1! |
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| 16:12.42 | babilen | nullbyte_: No, you didn't. |
| 16:13.15 | babilen | arun_: That's not an official channel and will not be endorsed by us. |
| 16:13.16 | nullbyte_ | what |
| 16:14.06 | babilen | nullbyte_: There is very little we can do if you don't provide more information about the problem you experience. Please read "/msg dpkg bat" and provide the requested output on http://paste.debian.net -- merci |
| 16:14.32 | arun_ | babilen: yes, its not official but also, we would like if you guys support the channel unofficial too |
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| 16:16.40 | xreal | babilen: What's so bad here? |
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| 16:16.52 | dokma | just got myself a kimsufi machine |
| 16:17.05 | dokma | wanted to just rsync my current server to the kimsufi and try to boot it |
| 16:17.22 | dokma | so I partitioned made an ext4 on /dev/md2 |
| 16:17.38 | dokma | rsync -avxHAX root@remote / |
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| 16:18.01 | dokma | chroot into the copy after binding dev sys proc and run |
| 16:18.02 | yossarianuk | ksk: thanks |
| 16:18.05 | dokma | update-grub |
| 16:18.11 | dokma | and can't get it to boot |
| 16:18.15 | dokma | did I miss anything? |
| 16:18.16 | wfq | beautiful, thanks guys |
| 16:18.39 | dokma | nothing ended up in the logs on the kimsufi machine on reboot |
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| 16:18.54 | dokma | so something is messed up probably on the partition level or something |
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| 16:29.47 | petn-randall | !es |
| 16:29.48 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 16:30.56 | petn-randall | Welcome Sbroker! If you want support in spanish, you can go to the other channel. This channel is english-only. |
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| 16:32.21 | arun_ | hi Debian people, we have created a channel in irc.spotchat.org called #debian-talk , please help use withstand that channel !1! |
| 16:32.23 | Sbroker | I m bored to read allways the same.... |
| 16:32.28 | Sbroker | looserrrrrrrrrrrrsssss |
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| 16:34.43 | r420r | hi guys, i installed postfix , it working cat /var/mail/<user> in my mails |
| 16:35.07 | r420r | after i installed courier-pop courier-imap |
| 16:35.09 | petn-randall | Sbroker: Insulting the channel won't get you very far in here. |
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| 16:35.44 | Sbroker | petn-randall, suck.... |
| 16:35.46 | r420r | i did user and pass with nc localhost 110 |
| 16:35.50 | r420r | -ERR chdir Maildir failed |
| 16:35.53 | r420r | i get that error |
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| 16:36.27 | r420r | -ERR chdir Maildir failed , how i can fix it ? |
| 16:37.00 | r420r | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.00 | r420r | uid=112(postfix) gid=116(postfix) groups=116(postfix) |
| 16:37.22 | r420r | my mails in /var/mail/<user> |
| 16:37.48 | johnfg | After installing a new font into texlive (not one available through apt) is it best just to manually run mktexlsr, or does debian have another tool? |
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| 16:39.54 | g105b | How can I install a wheezy package in squeeze? |
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| 16:41.13 | babilen | g105b: You should consider upgrading to wheezy given that squeeze will only be supported until May. Please follow the release notes (/msg dpkg release notes) -- Which package exactly? |
| 16:41.38 | g105b | babilen: php5 |
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| 16:44.13 | babilen | g105b: Upgrade to wheezy |
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| 16:44.56 | g105b | righto |
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| 16:46.23 | r4n4 | hi. I would like to use the 'mv' command but only for *.mp4 or *.abc extensions. I tried "mv /mydir/*.{mp4|abc} but it doesn't work. I don't remember the correct syntax, anyone help please. |
| 16:46.35 | zinx | , |
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| 16:46.46 | babilen | g105b: Consider yourself lucky that you do need the PHP version in the current stable release. It is much more common for people to scream "But I need this 7 year old PHP version as I will lose all my money and I have no time to upgrade my software!!!" :D |
| 16:46.59 | r4n4 | "mv /source/*.{mp4|abc} /destination" |
| 16:47.07 | r4n4 | does not work. Any clues? |
| 16:47.09 | zinx | "," |
| 16:47.11 | brightkill | r4n4: {mp4,abc} |
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| 16:47.38 | babilen | zinx: It sometimes help to write just one more word ;) |
| 16:47.41 | r4n4 | and when is the pipe used? I don't know, but I remember the pipe |
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| 16:48.02 | brightkill | r4n4: bash has its own regexps |
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| 16:48.18 | r4n4 | brightkill: how would it be in zsh for example? |
| 16:48.31 | brightkill | r4n4: dont know, i dont use zsh |
| 16:48.42 | g105b | aha good point babilen |
| 16:48.43 | r4n4 | brightkill: ok,thank you |
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| 17:01.14 | lc | hi |
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| 17:02.11 | g105b | lc: hi mate |
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| 17:02.39 | lc | it's secure to have jessie/testing on laptop for normal work ? |
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| 17:03.33 | pippo75 | Hi all |
| 17:03.36 | lc | g105b, mate ? :-) |
| 17:03.39 | g105b | depends what "normal work" is. Do you work for a government anti-terrorist agency? |
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| 17:04.00 | g105b | Hi pippo75 |
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| 17:04.41 | pippo75 | :-) |
| 17:05.10 | lc | g105b, mh no :-) normal work = networking, email, programming, read books etc .. |
| 17:05.12 | pippo75 | Anyone ITA? |
| 17:05.19 | CissWit | lc: testing is usually the release that receives security updates the later. So, strictly speaking about security, it's not that good. |
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| 17:05.41 | CissWit | latest* |
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| 17:06.11 | lc | CissWit, ok |
| 17:06.33 | LordDeath | do you guys know a noob-proof guide to set up Dovocot + Postfix in Debian? |
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| 17:07.28 | lc | CissWit, not that good = totally not secure for "normal" use, you mean that ? |
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| 17:08.39 | CissWit | lc: no it should be ok |
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| 17:27.42 | Hanumaan | debian nfs client mounts as nobody and nogroup but ubuntu mounts with the correct username and group what could be the problem ? |
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| 17:38.45 | pawell | Hi, does the debian use a full potential of CPU by default ? |
| 17:40.26 | MrFrood | pawell: your question is a bit vauge, perhaps you could explain what you mean |
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| 17:42.03 | MrFrood | !tell pawell about microcode |
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| 17:42.29 | [DS]Matej | how to add sub users to an user account? |
| 17:43.17 | Brigo | [DS]Matej, i think there are no such thing in linux "sub users" |
| 17:43.28 | [DS]Matej | ah ok |
| 17:43.29 | [DS]Matej | xd |
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| 17:44.24 | MrFrood | [DS]Matej: you may want to look at group permissions |
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| 17:45.34 | pawell | MrFood: I mean that when I use cpufreq-get I get information about every core with "Powersave Low" and so on. My question is: does it mean that even in situtation when it's needed my CPU isn't used in 100% of its capabality ? |
| 17:45.36 | hammad_ | Can someone brief me up about how the bug tracking and fixing system works in Debian ? |
| 17:46.24 | hammad_ | accurately* |
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| 17:46.50 | pawell | MrFood: I have problem with android-studio which works unbevelibly slow and it's impossible to use it. |
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| 17:48.44 | MrFrood | pawell: try running some stress testing & benchmarking software to find out but I suspect that the cpu usage will scale up to 100% as expected |
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| 17:49.07 | symptom__ | how do i update a dyndns entry if i got only ipv6? |
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| 17:50.15 | MrFrood | !tell hammad_ about reportbug |
| 17:50.50 | MrFrood | !tell hammad_ about report bug |
| 17:51.02 | hammad_ | thanks |
| 17:52.27 | pawell | MrFrood: When I check /proc/cpuinfo there is "cpu MHz: 800.000" for each core, is it ok ? |
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| 17:56.35 | MrFrood | pawell: I've never had an isssue with cpu performance with debian, installing the revelent microcode package might help you squeeze a bit more performance out og your system. The linux and specifically the Debian build of the linux kernel are used every day by *lots* of users if there was an issue I'd of expected it to of been reported by now |
| 17:56.53 | hammad_ | ! tell akif500 acerca reportbug |
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| 17:57.07 | pawell | MrFood: ok, thank you for your help |
| 17:57.35 | whitePawn | sup |
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| 17:58.06 | MrFrood | hammad_: you can "/msg dpkg" with questions etc |
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| 17:58.21 | hammad_ | will do ! sorry ! |
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| 17:59.11 | Lee- | I'm not really sure if this is appropriate for this channel. I'm trying to boot debian via PXE and mount the root FS via NFS. I have the kernel correctly being served up via TFTP, but it fails mounting the root file system. I understnad that NFS client support needs to be compiled in to the kernel and not left as a module. I have done this and can confirm that when the kernel boots I see a line referencing NFS fly by near the beginning, so I'm pretty sure th |
| 17:59.12 | Lee- | at I do in fact have NFS client support built in properly (I had selected "y" in the .config file for all NFS client options before compiling). Still, I get an error "No filesystem could mount root, tried: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)" Is there some other module that needs to be compiled? I even compiled in all modules related to NICs to ensure my NIC driver is available. Any ideas where I should look? Thanks! |
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| 18:05.43 | debiboy | hello |
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| 18:06.14 | hammad_ | msg dpkg |
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| 18:06.47 | debiboy | i am using debootstrap --verbose --variant=buildd --no-check-gpg --foreign sid Debian/ http://ftp.debian.org/debian |
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| 18:07.10 | debiboy | then chroot on Debian.. but no apt-get exist |
| 18:07.44 | debiboy | any idea ? |
| 18:07.54 | rhizome | is there a "what's currently accessing my hard drive 100% of the time" utility? |
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| 18:08.47 | kanliot | iotop |
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| 18:08.53 | debiboy | rhizome: lsof iotop |
| 18:08.53 | rhizome | thanks |
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| 18:10.05 | debiboy | anyidea about the debootstrap ? |
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| 18:11.00 | rhizome | nope, never used it. sorry |
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| 18:13.52 | local | hi there. I would like to write a small script, which will do a specific task only after a certain process has ended. I thought to use a while true loop and something like "ps2monitor=$(ps axo comm | grep -w psname )" and check that every second. When ps2monitor will get empty, I would like the loop to end and then execute my desired command. Is that a good/bad idea or how could I do that? |
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| 18:15.44 | ___hap | hey |
| 18:16.10 | ___hap | trying to install mysql-server-5.5 but I always get unmet dependencies "libc6-dev : Breaks: gcc-4.4 (< 4.4.6-4) but 4.4.5-8 is to be installed", is it safe to force? |
| 18:16.34 | local | what am I doing wrong here? ==> http://paste.debian.net/85677/ |
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| 18:17.48 | kanliot | local you might use the wait builtin in bash |
| 18:17.51 | kanliot | "wait" |
| 18:18.37 | local | kanliot: I am not so good in programming, maybe you can assist on how to integrate that into my existing script? |
| 18:19.17 | tolkor | local: if certain_process is to exit with a 0 status, you can also certain_process && desired_command |
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| 18:19.38 | debiboy | rhizome: also you should enable I/O accounting in your kernel |
| 18:19.42 | debiboy | bb |
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| 18:20.11 | Brigo | local, you can delete the 3 and 9 lines |
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| 18:24.10 | local | Brigo: but if I delete 3 + 9 line, then ps-check will occur ONE TIME (!) at the beginning of the script. But I think I have to check every 5 seconds, if the process is alive or not. |
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| 18:24.44 | vote_vis_systemd | Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html |
| 18:24.47 | vote_vis_systemd | Vote for init system choice. |
| 18:25.05 | Brigo | so put ps in the until's bucle |
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| 18:26.04 | SweetMuffin | vote_vis_systemd: it would be nice if you argumented the vote proposal. Not that anyone cares what's default, as long as it's implemented good. |
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| 18:27.00 | jelly-home | SweetMuffin: also, do not feed the trolls |
| 18:27.31 | sheap | when's all this voting going to happen any who |
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| 18:27.39 | SweetMuffin | my apologizes jelly-home , i am genuinely interested in arguments. |
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| 18:28.14 | sheap | SweetMuffin, the link they provided seems to have more information on their stance |
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| 18:29.20 | dashs | Do you think it should be easy and non-punitive to opt out of PulseAudio in Debian? |
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| 18:29.27 | lordcirth | SweetMuffin, the linked proposal basically says that packages should avoid specific init dependencies if possible. Don't see why that is controversial. |
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| 18:30.09 | Brigo | local, about wait: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/advanced_bash_scripting_guide/x6632.html |
| 18:30.11 | lordcirth | vote_vis_systemd is also spamming #bitcoin with the same paste |
| 18:30.18 | jelly-home | SweetMuffin: a tech support channel like this one is pretty much exactly the wrong place to hunt for those |
| 18:30.26 | engla | dashs: it seems to be easy already? |
| 18:30.58 | SweetMuffin | jelly-home: agreed, i don't mind it moving to #debian-offtopic , my apologizes for handing out apples to trols |
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| 18:31.47 | dashs | engla: really? remove gnome to drop pa? |
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| 18:32.28 | engla | I don't use gnome so I don't know that |
| 18:33.22 | dashs | engla: mostly I don't, but I might want a pkg from it. Draconian. |
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| 18:34.44 | cat_pants | Hi folks. I remember there used to be an applet called "gnome-sound-applet" or similar, but that seems to have been renamed. Does anyone know the new name of this applet? Thanks! |
| 18:35.46 | local | Brigo: thanks for the link, but: I am not sure if I understood. The process I wanna check is not executed within my script. It is either active or not active on the system. That's why I want to check it |
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| 18:36.13 | local | Brigo: will 'wait' work here? If so, how can I use "wait" to check a certain process name (not PID!) ? |
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| 18:36.20 | Brigo | local, man bash, you can wait for a PID. |
| 18:36.39 | Brigo | local, you need the pid |
| 18:36.53 | Brigo | if you has a name you can get the pid |
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| 18:37.40 | Brigo | local, pidof, for example |
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| 18:39.52 | Birdmanravo | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6 Is there another way given that I don't have GRUB? |
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| 18:42.37 | local | Brigo: hmm.. I have tried this here --> http://paste.debian.net/85684/ and it seems it works. What you think ? |
| 18:43.34 | Zzeiss1 | When doing an apt-get update, I get a lot of "Hash Sum mismatch" warnings, and then an error: "Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead." And then- no packages show ready to update. None. |
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| 18:44.57 | local | Brigo: If I would use the command 'wait $(pidof myprocess2check)' I get the error, that myprocess2check was not started by this shell. How could I avoid that issue? |
| 18:45.47 | Brigo | local, try this: http://paste.debian.net/85688/ |
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| 18:47.09 | Zzeiss1 | Is anyone else seeing this problem? Any idea how to fix it? |
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| 18:47.50 | local | Brigo: ok, quite the same as mine, but you did it the correct way :) but maybe you can teach me how to use "wait" correctly ? |
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| 18:48.37 | Brigo | local, i found this i think is interesting: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2354019/monitor-a-process |
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| 18:49.30 | Brigo | Zzeiss1, stasble? |
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| 18:50.43 | jelly-home | Zzeiss1: typically indication the mirror you're using is not updated correctly; sometimes an indication of network traffic tampering |
| 18:51.02 | pi_____ | helou friends |
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| 18:51.33 | pi_____ | my understandig of this prog is |
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| 18:52.07 | jelly-home | Zzeiss1: care to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and the full output of an aptitude update? |
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| 18:52.53 | kdub | if my package is capable of a 'native cross compile' (eg, no qemu emulated compiles via sbuild/pbuilder) is there an easy way to make use of that feature to make a deb? |
| 18:52.57 | pi_____ | goal of ps2mon is equal to goal of pgrep proc2check, then do echo ffobar |
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| 18:54.16 | pi_____ | else do nothink |
| 18:54.33 | pi_____ | after each 5 sec |
| 18:54.57 | Zzeiss1 | jelly-home: Will do. |
| 18:55.28 | local | Brigo: by the way. You're code (http://paste.debian.net/85688/) won't work, because you would also to have a non-empty variable for ps2monitor at the beginning. Just FYI |
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| 18:57.41 | Brigo | local, good point :-) |
| 18:57.47 | pi_____ | local: by the way, its not each 1 sec, but each 3 sec |
| 18:57.50 | pi_____ | 5 sec |
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| 18:58.46 | Zzeiss1 | urk... trying to >>output the errors,... what's the secret incantation to have both stdout and stderr go to the same file? |
| 18:59.14 | Brigo | 2>&1 may be? |
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| 19:01.49 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. Is there any way to add speed-limiting to apt-cacher-ng? |
| 19:02.23 | Pegasus_RPG | I don't see anything in the manual about such a feature |
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| 19:06.32 | Brigo | Pegasus_RPG, you can try with something like Trickle |
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| 19:07.30 | Some_Person | How do you delete keys (not sure if that's the right term) in dconf? |
| 19:07.48 | nkuttler | hrm, does somebody know how to run a script when i unpause a libvirt/kvm image? |
| 19:07.53 | nyk2005 | Hi! Is there a program that removes init scripts of packages that are no longer installed? Would be good for sysv-rc-conf, which is otherwise littered with dead init scripts. |
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| 19:10.34 | Brigo | nyk2005, apt-get or dpkg |
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| 19:10.59 | engla | use `apt-get purge` for the affected packages |
| 19:11.11 | nyk2005 | Brigo: but the dpkg --purge doesn't work, because the packages is not installed anymore |
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| 19:12.01 | nyk2005 | Brigo: for example, apache2 is not installed, but the init script is still here |
| 19:12.28 | Brigo | nyk2005, did you remove it without apt-get or dpkg? |
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| 19:12.50 | nyk2005 | Brigo: with aptitude |
| 19:12.51 | steven7731 | /sbin/mkfs.ext2, /sbin/mkfs.ext3 and /sbin/mkfs.ext4 are all symlinks pointing to mke2fs: http://paste.debian.net/85695/ How does the mke2fs know, that it should create ext3 file-system and not ext2 or ext4 if I execute /sbin/mkfs.ext3? |
| 19:12.52 | Brigo | you can remove a package and then purge it. |
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| 19:13.26 | Brigo | nyk2005, if you make dpkg -L you can find the package in the dpkg database. |
| 19:13.28 | nyk2005 | Brigo: I already purged, but the init script remains |
| 19:13.32 | Zzeiss | Here's the pastebin of the apt-get that won't update: http://pastebin.com/znDXa4Qt |
| 19:14.08 | cat_pants | Hi folks. I remember there used to be an applet called "gnome-sound-applet" or similar, but that seems to have been renamed. Does anyone know the new name of this applet? Thanks! |
| 19:14.35 | Brigo | nyk2005, i remember you nick. Did you have a upgrade problem yesterday? |
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| 19:14.57 | nyk2005 | Brigo: yes, exactly! It worked out very nicely! |
| 19:15.12 | nyk2005 | Brigo: still up and running and as good as new, the server |
| 19:15.27 | Brigo | but with undesired init scripts .... |
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| 19:16.55 | Brigo | but how can we know what are the old scripts? |
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| 19:17.13 | nyk2005 | Brigo: yes, and I can also delete the init scripts by hand, if there's no tool.. it's not such a big thing... |
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| 19:18.01 | Pegasus_RPG | Brigo: crap. that's a +1 for the old apt-cacher :S |
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| 19:20.21 | Brigo | sorry i must go |
| 19:21.23 | nyk2005 | Brigo: bye! and thank for the help! |
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| 19:22.30 | nyk2005 | I was wrong and you were right: purge really removes the init script. I did find in /etc and saw it. But why does sysv-rc-conf still show apache? It's NOT installed and now there... |
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| 19:22.30 | nyk2005 | not |
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| 19:28.31 | Zzeiss | Any ideas on that update problem? |
| 19:29.24 | Pegasus_RPG | Zzeiss: sounds like you need to do apt-get clean |
| 19:29.46 | Pegasus_RPG | that blows away the local cache and it will download the indexes again |
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| 19:33.51 | jhutchins | nyk2005: Cached. |
| 19:33.52 | iz2rpn | hi |
| 19:34.22 | jhutchins | nyk2005: Probably builds the list at boot. |
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| 19:35.23 | Lope | how can I do an ipscan on my whole subnet? |
| 19:35.28 | qu | Why is my system insisting on installing the i386 version of fglrx driver, instead of x86_64? |
| 19:35.43 | nyk2005 | jhutchins: Yes, I just found out in the man page: the -P option does it!! |
| 19:36.02 | nyk2005 | nyk2005: (purge the cache in /var somewhere) |
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| 19:40.10 | Led_Zeppelin | i notice my shmall as 2097152 but when I count all of my column 4 from /proc/sysvipc/shm they add up more than shmall. how is that possible? |
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| 19:42.03 | local | How could I check all the time for existence of *.abc files inside directory /foo and exit the loop if no /foo/*.abc files are left? |
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| 19:44.47 | pi_____ | local: another one? |
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| 19:45.36 | lilibox_ | hi |
| 19:45.52 | lilibox_ | anybody willing to help noobie here? |
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| 19:46.27 | jhutchins | lilibox_: Everybody's new to something. Ask. |
| 19:46.49 | lilibox_ | i tried install some shittie faceboot/skype text chat client to finch, it needed some dependencies and i decided to not continue in installing |
| 19:47.30 | local | pi_____: yes. I need another loop to check if there are any *.abc files inside /foo. If no *.abc files are found, the loop exits and the script continues. |
| 19:47.32 | pi_____ | i must smile |
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| 19:47.37 | pi_____ | good night |
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| 19:47.40 | lilibox_ | after i performed apt-get update / upgrade result of commands told me something about unmet dependencies and told me it maybe corrected byt apt-get autoremove |
| 19:48.12 | lilibox_ | and perform apt-get -f install |
| 19:48.39 | lilibox_ | when i typed the last command installer offered me 160MB of dependencies |
| 19:49.15 | lilibox_ | i am running debian in text mode i don't want tons installed files i don't need |
| 19:49.22 | wols | lilibox_: what was the name of the package you installed, that skype textchat thing? |
| 19:49.36 | lilibox_ | yes, wait |
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| 19:50.24 | wols | do you want to actually use this skype textchat thing or do you simply want to get rid of it? |
| 19:51.21 | steven7731 | /sbin/mkfs.ext2, /sbin/mkfs.ext3 and /sbin/mkfs.ext4 are all symlinks pointing to mke2fs: http://paste.debian.net/85695/ How does the mke2fs know, that it should create ext3 file-system and not ext2 or ext4 if I execute /sbin/mkfs.ext3? |
| 19:51.24 | lilibox_ | http://pastebin.com/qR5nUWFf |
| 19:51.41 | lilibox_ | wols get it out of box |
| 19:51.54 | rudi_s | steven7731: argv[0] |
| 19:52.24 | wols | steven7731: cause it knows as what it was called. argv[0]. busybox does this too. dozens of different programs/tasks depending how it was invoked |
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| 19:52.59 | wols | lilibox_: dpkg -r this facebookchar and skype4pidgin then |
| 19:53.08 | local | I have done "touch test.abc" but "if [[ -f *.abc ]]; then echo foobar; fi;" return no output. What am I doing wrong, what is the correct code? |
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| 19:54.48 | Brigo | alaive, again! |
| 19:54.58 | Brigo | i said, only again, sorry. |
| 19:55.02 | lilibox_ | thank you much, i guessed if installing procedure didn't finish correct, apt-get clear everything trash around |
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| 19:55.41 | lilibox_ | btw, any recommendation how to run skype/facebook chat inside of finch? |
| 19:55.47 | Brigo | local, may be "if [[ *.abc ]]; then echo foobar; fi;" |
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| 19:57.23 | local | Brigo: ?? that is what i wrote before. It doesn't work: "if [[ *.abc ]]; then echo foobar; fi;" |
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| 19:58.12 | steven7731 | rudi_s, wols: ok, I see. So the mke2fs will check the argument number 0 which is the "mkfs.ext3" and thus it knows, that it needs to create ext3 file-system and not ext2 or ext4? |
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| 19:58.46 | rudi_s | steven7731: Yes. You can see easily test it. |
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| 19:58.53 | lilibox_ | and the 3rd and the last question, during installation apt-get said it needs finch but not installed which is not quite true, i build finch from source, how to correct this information that my puter contains finch binary already |
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| 19:58.58 | steven7731 | rudi_s, ok, thanks! |
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| 20:00.19 | rudi_s | steven7731: Just create a file named test.c with the following content: |
| 20:00.28 | rudi_s | #include <stdio.h> |
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| 20:00.33 | rudi_s | int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { printf("my name is: %s\n", argv[0]); } |
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| 20:01.08 | rudi_s | Compile it with gcc test.c and then run it ./a.out - it will tell you its name. Then try symlinking it, e.g. ln -s a.out foobar and run it again (./foobar). |
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| 20:02.36 | rudi_s | mke2fs does the same. It's useful if multiple programs have similar behavior and reduces the necessary space. This isn't a big issue nowadays (busybox excluded), but in the past it was more relevant. |
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| 20:12.45 | local | Brigo: I have found out a way to do it: while : ; do [ "$(find /var/www/media -maxdepth 1 -name '*.abc' -print -quit)" ] && break; done |
| 20:12.50 | local | works like a charm |
| 20:14.02 | steven7731 | rudi_s, I tried this out. Thanks! |
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| 20:14.10 | rudi_s | np |
| 20:14.20 | faca | please help !!!!, i need chroot now!, I root (systemrescuecd), mount md, mount crypt, chroot /tmp/lalala chroot failed to ryn command /bin/zsh no such file or directory..... ok i run chroot /tmp/lalala /bin/bash chroot : exec format error GRRRRRR |
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| 20:15.11 | fritsch | faca: booted a 32 bit rescue? |
| 20:15.16 | fritsch | faca: and chrooting in a 64 bit os? |
| 20:15.43 | faca | fritsch, ammm...... maybe |
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| 20:15.54 | faca | fritsch, yes, uname -a say i586 |
| 20:15.56 | faca | fuck! |
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| 20:17.03 | faca | fritsch, the original BIG problem is cryptsetup: lvm is not available cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available |
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| 20:17.35 | fritsch | faca: no apt-get in the livesystem? |
| 20:17.51 | faca | fritsch, i don?t now for what reason...... and now i tried update-initramfs -u update-grub |
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| 20:18.10 | fritsch | won't help if you are not chrooted |
| 20:18.35 | faca | fritsch, now rebooting in 64b live cd.... is systemrescuecd.... i think don?t have a apt-get ... |
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| 20:22.37 | jhutchins | faca: For apt-get to work you'd have to chroot to the Debian install. |
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| 20:23.04 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 20:23.05 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
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| 20:29.37 | Pegasus_RPG | Is anyone here on the Bacula package maintainers team? |
| 20:29.52 | Pegasus_RPG | I would like to respectfully request an update to the current 5.2.13 |
| 20:29.57 | Pegasus_RPG | 5.2.6 is quite old |
| 20:29.58 | faca | jhutchins, ok, but i used mdadm and crypt luckopen.... chroot is ready, proc, deb and sys mapped ok.... and now, what run ? update-initramfs -u and update-grub ??? |
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| 20:31.21 | jhutchins | Strange. If I restart apache, I get "Restarting web server: htcacheclean apache2httpd (pid 16544) already running". If I check ps ax, only htcacheclean is there. If I run it again, it starts apache. |
| 20:31.26 | jhutchins | this is using service apache2 restart or /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 20:33.55 | faca | please help :( chroot ok, now ... cd /boot/grub; update-initramfs -e say this: device-mapper: table ioctl on md0_crypt failed: no such device or address command failed. |
| 20:34.25 | faca | rare, systemrescucd mound raid un /dev/md127 not /dev/md0 |
| 20:34.42 | faca | #define systemrescucd systemrescueCD |
| 20:35.12 | faca | the big problem is name the stupid deb ? vor X rason now md0 is md127 ??? pfff , howto fix this ? |
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| 20:35.52 | jelly-home | umount, stop the md array and assemble it as md0 manually if you think that causes your issue |
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| 20:38.53 | smrtz|nix | Anyone here use SDR#, or an alternative? |
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| 20:39.41 | faca | pelaseeeee help |
| 20:40.01 | faca | i need run this shhhhi.... email down , all down!!! it is a debian bug i don?t now :((((( |
| 20:40.19 | fritsch | use UUID instead of the device id and fine |
| 20:40.21 | fritsch | blkid |
| 20:40.22 | fritsch | will tell |
| 20:40.31 | smrtz|nix | fritsch: what's the problem? |
| 20:40.55 | fritsch | smrtz|nix: i don't have one |
| 20:41.12 | fritsch | there is another guy that needs a lot of characters ^^ faca |
| 20:41.18 | smrtz|nix | fritsch: oh, ok then. |
| 20:42.03 | faca | fritsch, I do not understand. |
| 20:42.14 | faca | fritsch, i write in spanish normaly... sorry |
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| 20:42.38 | fritsch | smrtz|nix: wanted to help you faca |
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| 20:43.34 | linuxuz3r | how do i install java 6 sdk in debian |
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| 20:45.41 | jhutchins | !java |
| 20:45.42 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:46.04 | jhutchins | ,v openjdk |
| 20:46.05 | judd | No package named 'openjdk' was found in i386. |
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| 20:46.15 | fritsch | !openjdk |
| 20:46.15 | dpkg | OpenJDK is the open source release of <Java> from Oracle America (formerly Sun Microsystems). All required functionality (according to the J2SE spec) is present, but some optional stuff is missing and some stuff uses different implementations from Oracle's binary JDK. Install the default-jre package for the runtime environment or default-jdk for the development kit. http://openjdk.java.net/ #openjdk on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:46.17 | smrtz|nix | apt-cache search java 6 sdk |
| 20:46.24 | fritsch | default-jre <- |
| 20:46.38 | fritsch | or default-jdk |
| 20:46.39 | fritsch | and fine |
| 20:46.47 | jhutchins | ,v default-jre |
| 20:46.48 | judd | Package: default-jre on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.6-40; wheezy: 1:1.6-47; jessie: 1:1.7-49; sid: 2:1.7-51 |
| 20:47.17 | jhutchins | linuxuz3r: So it looks like aptitude install default-j?? |
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| 20:48.18 | linuxuz3r | jhutchins, how do i install it |
| 20:49.18 | fritsch | linuxuz3r: ever used a terminal? |
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| 20:52.20 | faca | smrtz|nix, help ? please.... add 1 disk to raid 1, expand to 3 disk. reboot and cryptsetup: lvm is not available cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available .... ok restart with Livecd (systemrescuecd), map proc, dev, sys, after chroot.... and now cd /boot/grub ; update-initramfs -u say ?device-mapper: table ioctl on md0_crypt failed: no such device or address command failed?. ok, write now mdadmo mount raid in /dev/md127 no md0?. |
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| 20:55.46 | faca | please help!!!!! |
| 20:55.51 | faca | it is a disaster!!! |
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| 21:10.43 | xzbr273 | can anyone recommend a good/easy web scraper that works with debian? |
| 21:11.04 | smrtz|nix | I'm trying to follow a guide to get sdr# installed, and I need to install mono-complete and monodevelop, but when I try todo so, apt says I need to insert the install DVD into the drive, any way around this? |
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| 21:11.58 | Beluki | xzbr273: what do you need the web scraper to do? |
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| 21:12.47 | xzbr273 | Beluki: get catalogue information from a website with many products, such as price, catalogue number, name of product, etc |
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| 21:13.37 | Beluki | xzbr273: python + scrappy (http://scrapy.org/) can be a good choice for that. |
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| 21:15.36 | gnugnu8 | faca: try update-initramfs -u -k all instead |
| 21:15.37 | gnugnu8 | faca: update-initramfs -u -k all |
| 21:15.49 | xzbr273 | Beluki: what a coincidence, i just installed it. but there's a problem i see where one website for example asks you to select your country before it displays price, and if i run scrapy it will scrape all data but no price because country was not selected and the websites URL doesn't include a country portion |
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| 21:16.23 | faca | gnugnu8, fail! say device-mapper: table ioctl on md0_crypt failed: no such device or address command failed |
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| 21:17.00 | faca | gnugnu8, the problem is md0 not exist any more!!! ??? and now system view ARRAY in /dev/md127 !!!!! howto say to initram this ????? |
| 21:17.08 | gnugnu8 | faca: you are in rescue mode? |
| 21:17.25 | k03ll | hello i just tried to set the documentroot of a virtualhost to /var/www/foo but when im calling now http://foo.local/ i get to /var/www and not the subfolder. how to solve that? |
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| 21:17.40 | Lee- | Aside from passing the NFS data as kernel arguments, compiling NFS client support in to the kernel, and NIC driver in to the kernel, what else is needed to mount a NFS share as the root file system with a Debian kernel? I am sure NFS is in the kernel as I see a reference to it on the screen as it is booting. Still, I get an error "No filesystem could mount root, tried: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)" Any sugge |
| 21:17.41 | Lee- | stions on how I track down more specifically where the error is? Thanks! |
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| 21:17.56 | faca | gnugnu8, no, rescuemode don?t boot.... i in systemrescuecd !!! (livecd) |
| 21:18.05 | Beluki | xzbr273: see here for additional tools that can help with that: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16785540/python-data-scraping-with-scrapy |
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| 21:18.20 | faca | gnugnu8, mount raid , md127, mount crypt and chroot... |
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| 21:19.54 | xzbr273 | Beluki: thank you i will read about it |
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| 21:20.19 | Beluki | xzbr273: you're welcome, good luck. :) |
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| 21:21.55 | gnugnu8 | faca: ok, on live issue command: sudo apt-get install mdadm |
| 21:22.00 | gnugnu8 | faca: does this succeed? |
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| 21:23.15 | gnugnu8 | faca: ah, try without sudo if you are already root (live) |
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| 21:33.50 | local | 'mv /somedir/*.{foo,bar} /destination' doesn't work. How is it done correctly ? |
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| 21:36.00 | axisys | tftp 192.168.0.100 -c get file |
| 21:36.02 | axisys | Transfer timed out. |
| 21:36.05 | axisys | what gives |
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| 21:38.15 | linuxlite1983 | anyone help me with a wireless card? |
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| 21:40.43 | mtn | linuxlite1983: have you followed the wiki instructions? |
| 21:41.09 | linuxlite1983 | what instructions? is there a link? |
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| 21:41.33 | kdog | local: works for me. Are you shur there is a destination folder in /? |
| 21:41.52 | mtn | linuxlite1983: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 21:42.27 | linuxlite1983 | ok. I'll check it out. thank you |
| 21:42.35 | mtn | linuxlite1983: you're welcome |
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| 21:44.04 | cat_pants | Hi folks. I remember there used to be an applet called "gnome-sound-applet" or similar, but that seems to have been renamed. Does anyone know the new name of this applet? Thanks! |
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| 21:45.14 | steven7731 | Am I correct that chunk size in context of RAID is essentially the same thing as cluster in file-system context? In other words, chunk size is the smallest unit of data which can be written to a member of RAID array? For example if I have a chunk size of 64KiB and I need to write a 4KiB file and cluster size of the file-system is also 4KiB, then is it true that I will use one 64KiB chunk and basically waste 60KiB? |
| 21:45.16 | bennabiy | How do I stop the system from asking for a password at boot for a non-root encrypted partition. Changing crypttab does not seem to help |
| 21:45.34 | mtn | cat_pants: which version of debian and which desktop environment? |
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| 21:45.54 | MutantTurkey | so... I'm getting an error from valgrind saying i can't use memcheck, it says install libc6-dbg, i have it installed |
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| 21:46.09 | MutantTurkey | then the bug tracker says its an issue, because of valgrind devs |
| 21:46.17 | MutantTurkey | valgrind devs say the it's debain and other distro's fault |
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| 21:46.28 | MutantTurkey | and i'm suck here without a way to check for memleaks on my work desktop! |
| 21:46.29 | MutantTurkey | any ideas? |
| 21:46.34 | cat_pants | I'm using jessie+fluxbox |
| 21:46.39 | bennabiy | I have a HP DL380 with raid5 array, everything works fine, but it gets stuck at boot until I can put a password in |
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| 21:47.04 | axisys | If I connect to the same tftp server from a centos .. it works fine |
| 21:47.05 | mtn | cat_pants: I don't think the newer versions of gnome have applets available |
| 21:47.16 | axisys | both are tftp-hpa client |
| 21:47.33 | cat_pants | I'm just out of luck then? |
| 21:47.35 | dondelelcaro | bennabiy: what is the message where it gets stuck? |
| 21:47.46 | mtn | cat_pants: for a gnome applet, yes |
| 21:47.50 | axisys | on debian it is 5.2 and on centos 0.49 |
| 21:47.59 | dondelelcaro | bennabiy: just guessing, you probably have a filesystem which cannot be fscked or something similar |
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| 21:48.10 | cat_pants | Do you know if there is another option for a volume control applet? |
| 21:48.19 | bennabiy | dondelelcaro: It is at boot, before init fires (it is not "stuck" it just wants a password for encrypted partition) |
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| 21:48.38 | mtn | cat_pants: I am sure there are many of them. a simple google search or synaptic search should find many. |
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| 21:48.55 | dondelelcaro | bennabiy: ah; now that I read backlog I see that. Sorry. |
| 21:49.06 | bennabiy | I set up an encrypted partition manually in the installer, and it houses non-boot related LVM |
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| 21:49.28 | dondelelcaro | bennabiy: is that partition mentioned in the fstab? |
| 21:49.52 | bennabiy | I tried to change the name in /etc/crypttab and set to noauto, but it still references the old device mapper name and still auto tries to mount it |
| 21:49.58 | bennabiy | no entries in fstab for that device |
| 21:50.33 | cat_pants | I've been googling and I haven't found anything yet |
| 21:50.35 | dondelelcaro | bennabiy: ok. and I assume you rebuilt the initramfs after making that change? |
| 21:50.38 | calisto | Hi, exist any problem to remove all files in /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 21:50.41 | bennabiy | yes, |
| 21:51.21 | cat_pants | Oo |
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| 21:51.32 | cat_pants | I think I've been looking for gnome applets |
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| 21:51.49 | cat_pants | Thanks! |
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| 21:52.17 | mtn | cat_pants: yw |
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| 21:52.21 | tyler_wylie | Greetings #debian, I'm wondering if someone can point me in the right direction - I have an internal server and I want aptitude / apt-get to not upgrade the kernel whenever I do an apt-get upgrade |
| 21:52.44 | GarnenyaAndro | Hello i'm performing androirc test:) |
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| 21:53.14 | bennabiy | dondelelcaro: any idea where it keeps the reference for Unlocking the disk /dev/disk/by-uuid/ef6e0b95-1683-4e9d-ba48-d7468a7d4284 (c0d0p3_crypt) <~~~ if not in /etc/crypttab? |
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| 21:53.49 | dondelelcaro | bennabiy: it should be in crypttab and the initramfs; you migh try unpacking the initramfs to see what is actually there |
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| 21:54.12 | bennabiy | hmm, will look into it. Thanks |
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| 21:55.02 | mtn | cat_pants: you might find the arch wiki entry on fluxbox useful, too |
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| 21:56.42 | dondelelcaro | bennabiy: zcat /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r)|cpio -i; in a suitable temporary directory followed by grep -R will probably be good enough to start with |
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| 21:59.05 | acidchild | Hello during 'apt-get upgrade' done non-interactive. how do i tell apt-get not to overwrite config files? |
| 21:59.11 | acidchild | or is this the default behavior ? |
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| 21:59.20 | dondelelcaro | acidchild: that's the default |
| 21:59.31 | acidchild | thank you sir. |
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| 21:59.51 | acidchild | even with -y dondelelcaro? |
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| 22:01.24 | acidchild | god i hope this is true or this will make the day suck |
| 22:01.38 | acidchild | maybe should have done a mock run first lol |
| 22:02.38 | acidchild | Installing new version of config file /etc/nginx/proxy_params ... |
| 22:02.40 | acidchild | Ugh! |
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| 22:03.41 | kdog | acidchild: It should have renamed your original conf file. Just move it back into place and get the service to reload. |
| 22:03.53 | mjt | nope |
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| 22:04.05 | mjt | that was a conffile which hasn't been modifid locally |
| 22:04.13 | mjt | so during update it has been updated too |
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| 22:04.29 | mjt | only files modified locally will be kept |
| 22:04.38 | acidchild | mjt: you are correct. |
| 22:04.46 | mjt | heh |
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| 22:04.56 | jhutchins | acidchild: Debian handles the files pretty reasonably. |
| 22:05.04 | kdog | mjt: you are right. |
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| 22:05.35 | acidchild | jhutchins: indeed :) |
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| 22:06.04 | acidchild | I struggled to find an answer with google. |
| 22:06.07 | kdog | acidchild: see if the previous version of the .deb is in /var/cache/apt/archives and manually extract the old conf file |
| 22:06.27 | acidchild | i will just re-run puppet if the upgrade overwrites configs. |
| 22:07.14 | jhutchins | acidchild: It won't overwrite configs you've changed. |
| 22:07.28 | acidchild | jhutchins: acknowledged. thank you for the clarification. |
| 22:07.31 | acidchild | :) |
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| 22:08.18 | jhutchins | The packagers do a pretty good job of making sure that if the old file was unchanged, the new file will not break anything when it replaces it. Behavior should not change. |
| 22:08.34 | jhutchins | acidchild: This is part of what testing is for, to make sure updates don't break things. |
| 22:08.51 | acidchild | and this is why i love debian :3 |
| 22:09.29 | jhutchins | I think gentoo was the worst I've dealt with. RedHat is good about config files too. |
| 22:09.35 | Jekko^_^ | I have Wheezy on a raspberry pi. I have many mp3 on the raspi and i want to play them through internet from a remote windows computer. Raspi has samba on it. How can i do? |
| 22:10.03 | acidchild | jhutchins: I have not spent a great deal of time with gentoo within recent years. |
| 22:10.21 | jhutchins | Jekko^_^: 1)Read the samba documentation. 2) Configure a CIFS share on the Pi. 3) Mounte the share on the Windows box. |
| 22:11.08 | jhutchins | !samba |
| 22:11.09 | dpkg | Samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ http://samba.org/samba/docs/ http://wiki.samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net. See also <swat>, <dfs>. |
| 22:11.10 | Jekko^_^ | thank you, can you link me some tutorial for this? |
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| 22:14.06 | acidchild | jhutchins: I am very jealous of your internet connection :3 |
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| 22:14.22 | steven7731 | Am I correct that in case of RAID5, there is always single parity disk? All the other disks(two or more) actually hold the data? |
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| 22:16.01 | frostschutz | steven7731, no, it's a mix |
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| 22:16.14 | frostschutz | steven7731, single parity disk is more like RAID4 |
| 22:16.24 | batfastad | steven7731: The parity is distributed across all drives |
| 22:16.35 | batfastad | oops, clash :) |
| 22:16.35 | gnugnu8 | frostschutz: were you user faca just some minutes ago in this channel? |
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| 22:16.49 | batfastad | that was you can lose any one of the 3 or more drives and be ok |
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| 22:18.35 | ixela | batfastad: just don't lose another, or its game over generally |
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| 22:19.14 | batfastad | ixela: Oh yes! I always go RAID 6 for that. I've seen drives go before under the stress of the rebuild i/o |
| 22:20.12 | jhutchins | RAID controllers fail too, and that's sometimes unrecoverable. RAID != backup. |
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| 22:20.52 | ixela | batfastad: yup |
| 22:20.59 | ixela | and yes raid = reliability |
| 22:21.01 | ixela | not backup |
| 22:21.16 | frostschutz | read errors can go undetected for a long time. if you never test your HDD, the rebuild will be the first test, and it will just reveal old failures. |
| 22:21.30 | batfastad | Over the last 5 years or so I've been using software RAID almost exclusively. The thought of proprietary RAID metadata always seems like a bad thing |
| 22:21.31 | ixela | its like a bullet proof vest. It won't stop everything, but you'll survive being shot with a .38 |
| 22:21.41 | biledemon | Are there no md5 files for debian wheezy? |
| 22:21.57 | ixela | biledemon: for the isos? |
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| 22:22.07 | biledemon | ixela: yeah |
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| 22:22.54 | Lee- | read errors can go undetected with raid5. If you want something with (quite a bit) more data integrity, ditch raid5 and go with raidz (ZFS) |
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| 22:23.28 | ixela | biledemon: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 22:23.34 | ixela | for amd64 |
| 22:23.39 | ixela | change it to the arch you want |
| 22:23.43 | batfastad | I tried to install testing the other day but apt got stuck at 11%, a known issue with a bug report already in. (I'm usually a CentOS guy) So I tried stable and then upgrading to testing |
| 22:23.44 | ixela | md5 and sha hashes are in there |
| 22:23.54 | batfastad | Problem was the onboard Intel NICs on my Supermicro X10SLM board weren't detected by stable but the dual GbE card was picked up. Once upgraded to testing the onboard NICs now work but are numbered eth2 and eth3, with the PCI card being eth0 and eth1 |
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| 22:24.56 | batfastad | Also the onboard NICs don't appear in udev rules.d but the PCI NICs do. Shall I just delete (backup) the 70-persistent-net file and reboot to let it regenerate to see what happens? |
| 22:24.58 | biledemon | ixela: ah, thanks. |
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| 22:25.17 | batfastad | Or are the NIC names stored somewhere else in debian |
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| 22:25.30 | ixela | batfastad: I'd think it would be a udev rule |
| 22:25.33 | ixela | biledemon: no problem |
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| 22:25.52 | GNU\colossus | batfastad, that's the only place (for the "standard" system, I can't speak for all the thousands of packages in the archive) |
| 22:25.54 | ixela | batfastad: let me poke around my debian install for a sec |
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| 22:26.17 | GNU\colossus | batfastad, why do you insist on testing? is Wheezy + backports not enough? |
| 22:26.23 | GNU\colossus | (comes with Linux 3.12, for instance) |
| 22:26.36 | batfastad | ixela: and udev is re-generated on boot right? so clearing the file and rebooting should see both onboard and PCIe NICs in udev |
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| 22:26.54 | GNU\colossus | yes |
| 22:27.32 | jhutchins | Sounds like he's doing what it says, testing. |
| 22:27.39 | batfastad | GNU\colossus: This is in my lab, not production. I've been testing KVM out for the past few months but the CentOS/RHEL packages are quite out of date. |
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| 22:28.35 | ixela | batfastad: yeah |
| 22:28.40 | GNU\colossus | batfastad, the EL6 release has quite capable KVM support, actually |
| 22:28.46 | meiguoren | GNU\colossus: Testing is a semi-rolling distro that has a great package manager and repos, so why not use Testing? I've never run into issues with Testing. |
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| 22:29.04 | ixela | meiguoren: ++ |
| 22:29.05 | GNU\colossus | batfastad, also, Wheezy backports has qemu-kvm 1.7.0 |
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| 22:29.20 | ixela | I run stable for production stuff that I don't want to mess with |
| 22:29.23 | ixela | but testing everywhere else |
| 22:29.43 | batfastad | Oh I'm aware that KVM works well with CnetOS/RHEL 6. I actually use it on some other solo dedicated boxes |
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| 22:29.53 | GNU\colossus | meiguoren, because it'll get somewhat dull when jessie is frozen, and you'll be "surprised" then the jessie release is done and the first batch of upgrades washes in |
| 22:30.09 | ixela | GNU\colossus: I didn't have an issue last time that happened |
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| 22:31.44 | GNU\colossus | ymmv I guess :) |
| 22:31.47 | fommil | hi all, I seem to have all the correct drivers loaded for my audio card but no sound is coming out :-( it's a Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 |
| 22:31.48 | fommil | I've been following the debian FAQs on audio and so on, but I think I'm in a bit of a dead end |
| 22:32.15 | batfastad | I liked the idea of rolling upgrades for a while. Never really used raw Debian much. Though interestingly I think qemu-kvm 1.7 is the ver in testing anyway |
| 22:32.15 | batfastad | Will try rebooting quickly to see if udev populates with the onboard NICs as well as the existing PCIe card. Strange as they work perfectly |
| 22:32.16 | meiguoren | GNU\colossus: yeah, but you could easily change your apt sources to state "testing" and not "jessie" -- you'll hit a bump where there is little in the way of new packages for a while, but then they'll start coming again once 9.0 is under heavy development. |
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| 22:32.30 | fommil1 | argh, sorry, disconnected |
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| 22:33.01 | GNU\colossus | batfastad, backports are from testing to stable, usually. I'm not aware of exceptions. |
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| 22:39.12 | fommil | hmm, it would appear that my soundcards are not working http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=67fa70a4b9baa736387ecd1d9d50de3ff7a96691 |
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| 22:43.34 | fommil | now they are recognised, but still silence http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a764cd4d9f0521692f173ab5c4624a01dfa4a2cd |
| 22:44.57 | centrx | dpkg, tell fommil about alsa checklist |
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| 22:48.38 | batfastad | Hmm ok. Moved the udev net rules file out of the way, rebooted and it's not regenerated |
| 22:48.38 | fommil | centrx: AAAAAAGAHHHH!!!! |
| 22:48.47 | fommil | centrx: thanks :-D bit deaf now |
| 22:49.02 | fommil | centrx: alsamixergui muting and unmuting a few times seemed to do the trick |
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| 22:49.10 | batfastad | lspci shows both the onboard NICs and the dual NIC PCIe card |
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| 22:50.12 | batfastad | Do I need to get the module for my onboard NICs loaded earlier on in the boot process or something? |
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| 22:56.04 | GNU\colossus | batfastad, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is the file to look at |
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| 22:56.59 | batfastad | Yep. i backed it up and moved it, hoping it would be regenerated with all my NICs on reboot. But nothing, it's not regenerated |
| 22:57.53 | GNU\colossus | batfastad, looking at /lib/udev/write_net_rules should help you figure out what's wrong |
| 22:58.17 | GNU\colossus | I'm absurdly tired; will go to bed now. good night all :) |
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| 22:58.39 | abrotman | batfastad: that file is regenerated |
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| 23:01.59 | GJdan | any zsh users here get prezto and its sorin prompt working with zsh from debian wheezy? |
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| 23:18.48 | batfastad | Nope, another reboot and 70-persistent-net-rules not regenerated. Should point out this is testing |
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| 23:19.42 | abrotman | shouldn't matter |
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| 23:20.07 | faca | hi, i have a BIG problem.... i have raid 1, (suck mdadm) and lucksopen over the raid... grub crach, initramfs faild, etc etc etc, i boot in other livecd... chroot, purge grub... howto install grub ???? dpkg-reconfigure grub-legacy NO OPTIONS !!! |
| 23:20.21 | faca | please help, it is a production server, 6hs off for this bug |
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| 23:21.14 | batfastad | abrotman: The NICs are all detected and interfaces up. Actually renamed now so eth0 eth1 are the onboard NICs, eth2 and eth3 the PCIe card. So udev not being there doesn't matter |
| 23:22.01 | batfastad | Just wondering why the udev net rules file isn't regenerated? I was under the impression that it would. I'm only just starting using debian |
| 23:22.35 | faca | howto the name packague in debian for configure boot loader with raid and crypt ???? |
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| 23:25.41 | faca | helppp!!!! |
| 23:25.42 | faca | device-mapper: table ioctl on md0_crypt failed: no such device or address command |
| 23:25.48 | faca | ???? |
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| 23:25.57 | faca | i need run update-initramfs |
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| 23:31.27 | faca | any support ???? this is a oficial support for debian ? please hellllppppp |
| 23:31.34 | centrx | What's up |
| 23:31.53 | centrx | faca, What have you tried so far? |
| 23:32.00 | centrx | faca, Have you searched the Web for that error message? |
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| 23:34.35 | Lee- | Anyone willing to help me do NFS root? I've been working on it a few hours each day for the last week. I think I'm missing some kernel parameter or something that needs to be compiled in to the kernel, but I haven't figured it out. I've followed so many guides, but none has worked. I have NFS client suport compiled statically as well as my NIC driver, but I still get "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)". Any help w |
| 23:34.35 | Lee- | ould be greatly appreciated. |
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| 23:36.48 | takis_ | hi all, directed here from Crunchbang channel to resolve my wifi issue |
| 23:37.08 | takis_ | in short, the RTL8192E/RTL8192SE card with the realtek-firmware package installed is able to detect networks, but times-out after a few minutes. |
| 23:37.32 | takis_ | in effect, if I ping google latencies grow with time |
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| 23:38.11 | takis_ | ** note that I am as newbie as it gets in linux ** converted a week ago from win7 |
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| 23:39.49 | abrotman | takis_: #crunchbang is hte correct channel |
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| 23:40.44 | takis_ | yes this is where I was before joining this one |
| 23:40.56 | abrotman | takis_: we do not support Crunchbang here. |
| 23:41.10 | takis_ | it appers to be a debian issue |
| 23:41.26 | takis_ | so that is why I was sent here |
| 23:41.50 | takis_ | I am newbie so just following directions really |
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| 23:43.26 | takis_ | was told to report this to the debian people |
| 23:43.34 | takis_ | as this might be a common issue |
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| 23:44.07 | abrotman | takis_: we'll suggest you install Debian, and then we'll help you troubleshoot it |
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| 23:44.16 | vimel | ^ |
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| 23:49.11 | Guest33952 | hey folks, would u recommend to go 'testing'? |
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| 23:49.36 | Guest33952 | i mean testing isnt 'bleeding edge' is it? |
| 23:49.41 | centrx | Guest33952, Not if you don't know what you're doing |
| 23:49.51 | centrx | Guest33952, Also change your nick in IRC with /nick <new nick> |
| 23:50.27 | Guest33952 | i like my nick |
| 23:51.12 | Guest33952 | y not go testing |
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| 23:52.55 | kdog | Guest33952: Updating every day; Things possibly breaking; Waiting for security patches to come down through sid |
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| 23:56.11 | Guest33952 | kdog: ah ok |
| 23:57.03 | Guest33952 | kdog: come sec patches earlier to testing than to stable? |
| 23:58.50 | kdog | Guest33952: I can't answer that. I can tell you that testing doesn't have a security team, like stable, to make those things happen fast. |
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