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| 00:01.20 | abrotman | !sid faq |
| 00:01.20 | dpkg | http://deb.li/sidfaq ; it doesn't hurt to read the FAQ, even if you are using <testing>. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/08/msg00041.html and <sid upgrade test>. |
| 00:01.26 | abrotman | most of that applies to testing as well |
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| 00:03.38 | k03ll | can someone help me with file permissions? |
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| 00:04.20 | k03ll | i've set 664 -R to /var/www but i cannot access the directory with my username. only possible with 777 which i dont understand |
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| 00:04.58 | Geo | If i wanted to view my gnome desktop via ssh on debian, what client do I need to use? |
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| 00:05.15 | kdog | k03ll: you need execute privileges to go into a directory |
| 00:05.21 | Geo | sorry, to rephrase- view my gnome debian desktop on a windows machine |
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| 00:05.48 | k03ll | kdog: why? im not "execute" the directory, just read its contents |
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| 00:05.57 | abrotman | Geo: probably a vnc server of some sort .. if you're using gnome3, I think it's already installed |
| 00:06.07 | abrotman | Geo: vino is the name I believe |
| 00:06.45 | Geo | yeah, I phrased the original question poorly- need the client to be for windows |
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| 00:10.14 | Geo | It looks like xming might do the trick, as a windows X server |
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| 00:11.04 | abrotman | Geo: there are plenty of vnc clients for windows |
| 00:11.36 | Geo | right, but I'm looking for ssh tunneling of gnome, not a vnc per se |
| 00:11.40 | Geo | X11 |
| 00:12.05 | abrotman | oh, gotcha |
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| 00:15.17 | kdog | abrotman: I've been coming here sporadically for _years_ any you are always here, actively helping. Thank you for that! |
| 00:15.41 | koell | kdog: what are the reading permissions for on a directory? |
| 00:15.55 | koell | yep abrotman always active :) |
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| 00:17.48 | meiguoren | Geo: Another option is MobaXterm, but it's not free or open-source (AFAIK you can use it without paying if you use it for non-commercial purposes). |
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| 00:21.16 | ArchDuke | Taking my first steps into C. Tried compiling a basic hello world with 'gcc -o hello hello.c', terminal seems to freeze up and then close. Any suggestions? |
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| 00:22.10 | centrx | ArchDuke, What is your code? What version of gcc? |
| 00:23.00 | abrotman | kdog: Hi! |
| 00:23.14 | abrotman | ArchDuke: might want to pastebin your hello.c |
| 00:23.15 | ArchDuke | Not quite sure how to best check, under aptitude it shows I have 4.6 and 4.7 |
| 00:23.25 | abrotman | version of GCC shuldn't matter |
| 00:23.42 | ArchDuke | I also tried compiling a basic factorial program given by my professor, same result |
| 00:25.20 | ArchDuke | Ah, seems to work fine when I specify gcc-4.7 |
| 00:25.20 | kdog | koell: ?? They allow you to see the files inside the directory |
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| 00:47.00 | bl4ckdu5t | Is there any package that displays maps in the shell? |
| 00:47.42 | bl4ckdu5t | Like google maps kinda on the terminal |
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| 00:50.39 | centrx | bl4ckdu5t, Probably not. You might be able send the output of a GUI map program to aalib for ASCII output |
| 00:52.14 | bl4ckdu5t | centrx: I know I may not get full details on it like a GUI map. I want something like the ones used in movies like War games 1983 |
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| 00:53.23 | bl4ckdu5t | I believe with some arrangements, CLI maps should be available too |
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| 00:55.13 | flami | well, get cracking, |
| 00:55.53 | flami | I wanna see an ncurses openstreetmaps next week |
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| 00:56.05 | ivotkl | Hello everyone. |
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| 00:56.53 | bl4ckdu5t | flami: lol. You mean designed by me? |
| 00:57.37 | bl4ckdu5t | I could come up with something for real |
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| 00:58.30 | flami | I think that's the only way you will ever get cli maps. I have my doubts that ther eis much demand for it. |
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| 01:01.04 | bl4ckdu5t | yea ok |
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| 01:05.37 | Dayne_Minor | You know you want one. Hi, this is Dayne Minor, General Manager of Freeman Toyota. And the 2014 Toyota Tundra Texas Edition, is here. It has everything you would want in a truck, and more. In Texas we use our trucks, and sometimes abuse them. And the Toyota Tundra has all the equipment and features you need in a truck. Check us out at www.freemantoyota.com or visit us in Hurst, Texas on Loop 820, just south of the Northeast Mall. |
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| 01:06.44 | ProfessorBacon | hah what |
| 01:06.54 | flami | maybe the most out of place ad ever. |
| 01:06.59 | SirLagz | haha |
| 01:07.05 | ProfessorBacon | kind of endearing |
| 01:07.18 | SirLagz | do i get free shipping to Australia ? :D |
| 01:07.22 | flami | so who here actually does not need to fly thousands of km to get to texas? |
| 01:07.50 | SirLagz | and then free RHD conversion ? and free compliance ? :D |
| 01:08.16 | kdog | Dayne_Minor: Wow! I'll take two! |
| 01:08.28 | SirLagz | lol...i wonder if it's a bot or a real person. It's/He's PMing me now |
| 01:08.37 | Dayne_Minor | no free shipping, sorry |
| 01:08.59 | SirLagz | no free shipping ? well that's no use to me then |
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| 01:09.36 | SirLagz | themill: thanks |
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| 01:12.23 | ProfessorBacon | dammit, i need a quote on a Sienna |
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| 01:28.24 | peterrooney | ProfessorBacon: "Siennas are as much proof that you have too much money as a coke habit." |
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| 01:37.32 | steven7731 | Is it possible to have 4 and more driver in Linux software-RAID5? Usually all the examples for RAID5 are with three disks. |
| 01:37.42 | steven7731 | ..which should be the minimum for RAID5. |
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| 01:38.04 | ItBecameMoreFun | hello |
| 01:38.21 | ItBecameMoreFun | I'm stuck in installing Python2.7 |
| 01:38.30 | abrotman | steven7731: what? driver? |
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| 01:38.43 | themill | ItBecameMoreFun: which release of debian? stuck how? |
| 01:38.58 | steven7731 | abrotman, sorry, drives |
| 01:39.16 | abrotman | I don't see why not .. |
| 01:39.30 | abrotman | steven7731: are you having a specific problem? |
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| 01:40.02 | ItBecameMoreFun | Linux 2.6.37.6.RNx86_64.2.4 |
| 01:40.14 | themill | ItBecameMoreFun: that's not a debian kernel so doesn't tell us much |
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| 01:40.40 | steven7731 | abrotman, no, it was a theoretical question. I don't see a problem either. XOR calculation will work with whatever number of drives as long as only one of those is faulty at the time. |
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| 01:40.58 | abrotman | That's the plan, yes |
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| 01:53.36 | steven7731 | abrotman, thanks! |
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| 01:55.45 | three_legs | o/ |
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| 01:56.26 | three_legs | Is there any way to specify a library to use when using dpkg-buildpackage ? |
| 01:57.27 | three_legs | for example debian uses libjpeg8 however i want to use libjpeg-turbo to build a package |
| 01:57.32 | three_legs | a .deb... |
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| 01:58.14 | bishopj | has anyone else noticed that systemd-cron conflicts with mailutils? |
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| 02:01.28 | bishopj | sorry my irc client went funny but has anyone else noticed that systemd-cron conflicts with mailutils? |
| 02:01.37 | jelly-home | three_legs: change the control file to use the right build-dependency, and the build process to only accept libjpeg-turbo |
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| 02:03.05 | three_legs | jelly-home: you mean the config file ? |
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| 02:03.29 | jelly-home | no |
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| 02:03.43 | three_legs | jelly-home: the control file for dpkg ? |
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| 02:03.57 | three_legs | sorry i'm a little bit of a noob |
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| 02:06.03 | ksx4system | I'm trying to compile something using Debian 7 to run it on a box with 2.6.24 kernel. How do I force make to allow binaries to run on older kernel than 2.6.24? |
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| 02:07.09 | jelly-home | three_legs: it's at debian/control in the unpacked debian source tree |
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| 02:07.14 | ksx4system | I'm trying to compile something using Debian 7 to run it on a box with 2.6.24 kernel. How do I force make to allow binaries to run on older kernel than 2.6.24? |
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| 02:11.34 | ksx4system | I'm trying to compile something using Debian 7 to run it on a box with 2.6.24 kernel. How do I force make to allow binaries to run on older kernel than 2.6.24? |
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| 02:12.15 | three_legs | jelly-home: oh wow thanks much easier than what i was trying to do ! |
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| 02:17.13 | ksx4system | I'm trying to compile something using Debian 7 to run it on a box with 2.6.24 kernel. How do I force make to allow binaries to run on older kernel than 2.6.24? |
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| 02:17.30 | dvs | !telll ksx4system about repeat |
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| 02:19.40 | centrx | Oh come on, he said that a long time ago and there is no traffic in the channel |
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| 02:20.42 | centrx | ,kernels |
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| 02:20.44 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.13-trunk-686-pae (3.13-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.5-1); jessie: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.9-1); wheezy-backports: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.12.9-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.51-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
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| 02:21.36 | MouseTheLuckyDog | If I give you a list of files. Just a random list. How can i tell which ones have been modified in the last daY? |
| 02:22.07 | ksx4system | judd: it's not what I need, I'm trying to convince make to throw out a static binary which will run on a box with old kernel |
| 02:22.34 | ksx4system | or maybe... centrx ^ |
| 02:23.10 | centrx | MouseTheLuckyDog, There is a find option for that, man find |
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| 02:23.51 | centrx | MouseTheLuckyDog, Or just ls -lt |head |
| 02:24.00 | ksx4system | "file compiled-code" says that binary only can run on 2.6.26+ kernels, I'd love to have a binary which can run 2.6.20+ or even .18+ |
| 02:24.13 | centrx | ksx4system, Yeah I don't know, you need the headers for the version of the kernel you want, and for libc6 and other dependencies presumably to fit the target version |
| 02:24.21 | centrx | ksx4system, Try in channel #c |
| 02:24.34 | centrx | Assuming the program is in C |
| 02:24.50 | ksx4system | yup, it's pure c |
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| 02:27.27 | MouseTheLuckyDog | centrx, I'm sure both work, but since I'm looking at a list of individual files they both seem a bit "vulgar". |
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| 02:28.48 | dvs | oh, someone's gone to sleep |
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| 02:33.39 | three_legs | dpkg, tell me about rules |
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| 02:33.46 | three_legs | :/ |
| 02:33.47 | three_legs | lol |
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| 02:40.10 | home | I have a question |
| 02:40.13 | home | may I ask it here? |
| 02:40.30 | home | Many people say that Putin is strong, in much the same way that bear is strong. |
| 02:40.34 | home | Is this so? |
| 02:40.46 | mongaj | >>>#defocus |
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| 02:41.41 | three_legs | jelly-home: it's still compiling with libjpeg8 even though i specified libjpeg-turbo in the control file :/ |
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| 02:45.41 | jelly-home | three_legs: how did you install libjpegturbo's development package? |
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| 02:46.53 | three_legs | jelly-home: i built a .deb package from source and then i dpkg -i the .deb |
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| 02:48.59 | jelly-home | three_legs: if you can't force the build process to only work with libjpeg-turbo, I'd suggest using a separate chroot to build stuff, one where libjpeg8 would not be present |
| 02:50.14 | D-Boy | Hi, We start having a lot of boxes & VMs of debian, Can I 'clone' the official debian repository and create a local one ? if so how to do that, and how to maintain that local repo up2date ? sometimes, internet connection got very slow and updating all the boxes can be time consuming |
| 02:50.20 | jelly-home | three_legs: there are tools like sbuilder to facilitate such a workflow; I haven't used it myself yet |
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| 02:50.51 | three_legs | jelly-home: alright i guess ill just do a bootstrap or something and remove libjpeg8 |
| 02:51.16 | centrx | D-Boy, You could, but you probably just want apt-cacher (a proxy) |
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| 02:51.39 | dvs | D-Boy: or apt-mirror |
| 02:52.00 | jelly-home | three_legs: debootstrap? sure |
| 02:52.44 | D-Boy | centrx, dvs : okey, i'll look into those ones |
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| 04:18.11 | three_legs | jelly-home: so uninstalling libjpeg8 breaks everything lol |
| 04:18.24 | three_legs | i learned this in a chroot |
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| 04:43.52 | nandran | can someone link a current tutorial on setting up a email server using postfix and mysql? |
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| 04:47.28 | centrx | dpkg: tell nandran about postfix |
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| 04:47.55 | centrx | nandran, Also look at the README file for a package in /usr/share/doc/<package name> |
| 04:50.50 | nandran | will the debian sys admin book help with something like that? i dont want to study material thats out of date or might not be the best solution. |
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| 04:54.31 | tellanis | i lived in an aot where the landlord increased the rent from 1400 to 1700. |
| 04:54.38 | tellanis | why would that be allowed? |
| 04:54.50 | tellanis | where i am now the law states 2% is the max allowable increase. |
| 04:57.49 | centrx | nandran, postfix: Postfix is a <MTA> originally created as an alternative to <sendmail>. It aims to be fast, secure, easy to administer and (relatively) sendmail compatible. Receiving "no mechanism available" with SASL when used as a SMTP client? Install the suggested libsasl2-modules package. Kyle Dent's Postfix FAQ: http://www.seaglass.com/postfix/faq.html . http://wiki.debian.org/Postfix http://www.postfix.org/ #postfix |
| 04:57.50 | centrx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:59.54 | wols | nandran: https://workaround.org/ispmail/wheezy |
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| 05:01.29 | nandran | yes im following that one, maybe im just confused as to whats possible. Im trying to build a joomla website for a company and need an elegant solution for there email. |
| 05:01.50 | wols | nandran: then you are not qualified to do it. email is hard |
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| 05:03.51 | nandran | is it possible to have more than one mx domain on one email server ie exsample.org and exsample2.org? |
| 05:04.32 | hammad__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.37 | hammad__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.33 | hammad__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.46 | wols | !tell hammad__ about selftell |
| 05:06.09 | wols | hammad__: no dpkg around |
| 05:06.13 | hammad__ | how to operate it , its really nice ! where i can see the code for this bot ? |
| 05:06.34 | wols | nandran: yes |
| 05:06.55 | nandran | thanks |
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| 05:12.06 | hammad__ | where i can see the code for dpkg bot ? |
| 05:12.09 | hammad__ | can anyone help |
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| 05:13.15 | centrx | hammad__, Infobot is an IRC bot that is geared towards remembering "factoids", and repeating them back to people on request. It supports many additional features, such as google lookups, dictionary, spell checker, debian package checks, and more. See http://infobot.sf.net/ for more. |
| 05:13.32 | wat | is there a commandline to show resource consumption |
| 05:13.59 | hammad__ | centrx: |
| 05:13.59 | Rusty1 | wat: try: top , or htop |
| 05:14.00 | hammad__ | thanks |
| 05:14.36 | wat | is there another one Rusty1 |
| 05:15.19 | centrx | wat, Why don't you tell us what you are really looking for? |
| 05:15.39 | wat | resource monitor output in plaintext |
| 05:15.48 | wat | cores/mem at that specific point in time |
| 05:16.44 | centrx | What kind of resources? |
| 05:16.50 | centrx | What is "cores per mem" ? |
| 05:17.09 | wat | lol |
| 05:17.16 | wat | cores & mem |
| 05:17.18 | wat | ** |
| 05:17.29 | Rusty1 | slabtop is also out there |
| 05:18.03 | centrx | free shows memory usage |
| 05:18.19 | centrx | uptime shows CPU load average |
| 05:19.01 | wat | hmm |
| 05:19.05 | wat | uptime only show 2/4 cores |
| 05:19.07 | wat | 3/4* |
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| 05:24.11 | regreddit | wat, do cat /proc/stat |
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| 05:26.29 | regreddit | the proc filesystem has all that in 'plaintext' |
| 05:26.47 | regreddit | the man page on proc will describe it in great detail |
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| 05:27.35 | regreddit | /proc/meminfo also |
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| 05:36.02 | unclezipper | Hey, I'm having some issues with recovering data from a RAID5 array. This is a bit of an odd case. Anybody think they might be able to help? |
| 05:36.45 | centrx | !ask |
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| 05:37.03 | centrx | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 05:39.25 | unclezipper | Ok, here goes... I got tasked with data recovery after the most miraculous hardware failure I've ever seen. A motherboard, hard drive, and raid controller card all went out at the same time. The only system I have to perform the recovery with only has 3 SATA ports. I have the two good drives from the array as well as dd'd copies of them on a third drive. What can I do |
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| 05:41.24 | centrx | Would the RAID controller handle it if you got a new one? RAID5 is supposed to be okay if you lose one disk |
| 05:42.38 | unclezipper | centrx: It was software RAID from an *ancient* Redhat system. The RAID card was just acting as a few more SATA ports, I believe |
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| 05:43.35 | unclezipper | This is time constrained, though... I can't really get another one, anyway |
| 05:44.57 | centrx | unclezipper, I don't know. This isn't the most active time on IRC. Try also #hardware ? |
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| 05:46.03 | unclezipper | centrx: Alrighty. I'll see what they say, thanks |
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| 07:38.17 | James0r2 | i'm about to give debian a shot, coming from linux mint xfce and gonna use the Debian xfce live cd. My exp is only with ubuntu based distros. any words of advice? |
| 07:38.31 | centrx | Have fun! |
| 07:38.53 | James0r2 | fair enough |
| 07:38.53 | centrx | Ubuntu is Debian-based |
| 07:39.22 | regreddit | xfce is a decent desktop |
| 07:39.23 | James0r2 | yeah i know. but i like the rolling release idea. |
| 07:39.58 | regreddit | i switched from gnome after it started segfaulting on a 3.13 kernel |
| 07:40.07 | regreddit | and am not planning on going back |
| 07:40.10 | James0r2 | regreddit: yeah i've played around with pretty much all the major desktops and came back to xfce. simple and full featured enough for me. i use Kwin for effects on my nicer machine |
| 07:40.45 | James0r2 | i tried gnome shell. it's pretty polished looking but the shell experience just isn't for me |
| 07:40.53 | regreddit | i add skippy-xd to the win key, and it works great |
| 07:41.29 | James0r2 | regreddit: i tried skippy but couldn't find a way to display window previews for minimized windows which rendered it pointless in my opinion |
| 07:41.43 | James0r2 | is there a way to do it? |
| 07:42.11 | regreddit | i get a preview of minimized wondows |
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| 07:42.23 | regreddit | let me try something like gedit, hang on |
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| 07:42.43 | James0r2 | regreddit: really? hrmm. maybe that is a distro problem for me then. most forums i read about it just said it "can't be done" |
| 07:43.11 | regreddit | you mean a preview vs a blue box in place of that apps' window? |
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| 07:43.24 | regreddit | becaues thats what i see, but i at least know what it it |
| 07:43.27 | regreddit | is |
| 07:43.32 | James0r2 | yeah i mean full window preview with content. not just the icon |
| 07:43.46 | regreddit | right, no, thats what i see too |
| 07:43.52 | James0r2 | regreddit: my thing with that is that i often have multiple instances of something |
| 07:44.23 | regreddit | i stack my windows, almost never minimizing, so i guess that doesnt affect me much |
| 07:44.38 | James0r2 | mutter/muffin do it just fine but for some reason i end up with tearing issues on video playback |
| 07:44.49 | regreddit | so my desktop has right now 8 windows all slightly smaller than full screen |
| 07:45.08 | James0r2 | ended up using Kwin and choosing "fullscreen re paint" option for vsync and took care of all my tearing problems |
| 07:45.14 | regreddit | i also have dual screens |
| 07:45.51 | regreddit | the only think missing in xfce which i have almost replicated |
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| 07:46.19 | regreddit | is the multi-search box that you also get with the window zoomer thing in gnome |
| 07:46.21 | James0r2 | regreddit: i would love to see a window picker like skippy that was able to show all window previews. |
| 07:46.44 | regreddit | i replicate that with a ctrl+win shortcut to xfce Application Finder |
| 07:46.52 | regreddit | yeah, me too |
| 07:46.59 | regreddit | does gnome's? |
| 07:47.25 | James0r2 | regreddit: yeah |
| 07:47.36 | James0r2 | same with Cinnamon |
| 07:47.56 | James0r2 | but the windows managers aren't very configurable like kde's is |
| 07:48.12 | James0r2 | or perhaps they are but not easily at least |
| 07:48.27 | Overlordz | are there active efforts to port debian to phones and/or tablets? |
| 07:48.36 | regreddit | i havent used kde in so long, i cant compare |
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| 07:50.32 | James0r2 | i found a lot of praise for Kwin and i have to agree. i found a page while i was trying to fix my issue of Xfce users who were using Kwin. might not serve as snappy enough for many low end system users though. |
| 07:50.50 | James0r2 | it's way too heavy for my netbook |
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| 07:52.44 | bsah | but if i restart, i have no option to choose kde |
| 07:52.58 | bsah | what have i to setup to got kde |
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| 07:55.21 | bsah | sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm say, gdm not installed |
| 07:55.28 | bsah | thats strange |
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| 07:59.01 | James0r2 | isn't there an mdm? lightdm. |
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| 08:00.22 | James0r2 | bsah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager_%28program_type%29 |
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| 08:01.51 | musca | !dm |
| 08:01.52 | dpkg | DM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session. <xdm>, <gdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, login.app, <slim> and <lightdm> are all examples of display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM. Or Debian Maintainer: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer . For the deb-multimedia repository, ask me about <dmm>. |
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| 08:03.51 | bsah | James0r2: k, /etc/issues give me Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid \n \l - how can i find out, which x manager i use at the moment |
| 08:04.21 | bsah | <dmm> |
| 08:04.28 | bsah | !dmm |
| 08:04.29 | dpkg | deb-multimedia.org (formerly debian-multimedia.org) is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for legal reasons or because the packages are too poor in quality. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm wheezy>, <dmm squeeze>. Remember to include a "non-free" component in your sources.list lines. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>. |
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| 08:06.39 | bsah | I've try install kdm, and see, that is not installed, even if i installed kde like described in the wiki |
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| 08:06.47 | bsah | should i install kdm? |
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| 08:26.18 | MrFrood | bsah: bit of a stupid question but have you installed xorg? |
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| 08:36.07 | MrFrood | James0r2: if it is an issue with the live image you may be better asking in #debian-live on irc.debian.org (oftc) |
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| 08:39.36 | zer0s | I'm getting issues with a maxwell(750ti) card i just installed...its causing issues during boots |
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| 08:40.14 | zer0s | for instance it keeps counting and shows E[ PCM] in a loop basically |
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| 08:40.27 | zer0s | and i never get to any type of prompt |
| 08:41.38 | ivotkl | Hello. Good morning everyone. I'd like to know if there's a workaround on installation. Formatting HDD seems to take forever. Currently using from a barely new pendrive that works perfectly when installing other systems. Same thing happened when using CD / DVD and other isos. |
| 08:41.44 | James0r2 | MrFrood: my issue is with setting up grub during installation from the live medium. still ask in #debian-live? |
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| 08:42.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell zer0s about nvidia |
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| 08:42.15 | ivotkl | *Hello. Good morning everyone. I'd like to know if there's a workaround on installation. Formatting HDD seems to take forever. Currently using Debian Wheezy 7.4 Live from a barely new pendrive that works perfectly when installing other systems. Same thing happened when using CD / DVD and other isos. |
| 08:42.22 | zer0s | o.o |
| 08:42.36 | MrFrood | James0r2: yeah, they are more familar with the way the live image should work |
| 08:42.39 | babilen | zer0s: You might want to try installing the proprietary nvidia drivers. Make sure to get the right version, which probably means that you'll install it from wheezy-backports. |
| 08:42.48 | James0r2 | MrFrood: k. thx |
| 08:42.51 | ivotkl | I mean, it takes 4 minutes to progress 1%. That is not normal IMHO. |
| 08:43.00 | babilen | zer0s: I don't quite understand what you mean by "o.o" ;) |
| 08:43.11 | ivotkl | It is an emoticon babilen. |
| 08:43.15 | zer0s | lol |
| 08:43.17 | ivotkl | Meaning surprise. |
| 08:43.34 | ivotkl | Like when you open your eyes widely and stay speechless. |
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| 08:43.40 | babilen | ivotkl: Yes, I am well aware of that. It is simply not evident why zer0s would be surprised by being offered information. Hence my question. |
| 08:43.49 | zer0s | i installed the proper headers and also "nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
| 08:43.57 | ivotkl | babilen: Oh, I see... |
| 08:44.01 | zer0s | but it wouldn't let me boot normally |
| 08:44.19 | babilen | zer0s: Ah, okay. You didn't mention that. Which version did you install and what does "lspci -nn|grep -i vga" give you? |
| 08:44.22 | zer0s | i thought the nvidia problems were over |
| 08:44.23 | ivotkl | Did you know about this "problem" and if there is any workaround? |
| 08:45.03 | ivotkl | I mean, I luckily have enough time for work in order to let those 2 hours go through and have my system installed. =P |
| 08:45.28 | ivotkl | I think I'll read something in the meantime, do some ironing, etc. lol |
| 08:45.30 | zer0s | err i mean issues with nvidia not releasing source code |
| 08:45.38 | zer0s | for drivers |
| 08:45.46 | ivotkl | That's too bad... |
| 08:46.30 | babilen | zer0s: Which version did you install and what is the output of the command I mentioned? (if you have problem pasting that the PCIID (alphanumerical identifier at the end) would be sufficient) |
| 08:46.41 | zer0s | 331.49-1 |
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| 08:46.59 | zer0s | sorry about the delay |
| 08:46.59 | zer0s | @_@ |
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| 08:47.19 | babilen | zer0s: That version is neither in wheezy nor wheezy-backports. How did you install it? |
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| 08:47.45 | zer0s | let me check my source file |
| 08:48.12 | babilen | zer0s: yes, please show me your /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-dkms" :) |
| 08:48.51 | zer0s | http://pastebin.com/MPVZjBDa |
| 08:50.04 | zer0s | http://pastebin.com/3wuwV3my |
| 08:50.07 | babilen | zer0s: You appear to be running a Crunchbang/testing mix which is not supported in here. Please ask in a crunchbang channel for help or consider running Debian. Also note that testing/unstable are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net rather than in the respective #debian channels |
| 08:50.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell zer0s -about crunchbang |
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| 08:50.59 | zer0s | ok |
| 08:51.00 | zer0s | thanks |
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| 08:51.28 | babilen | zer0s: All the best! (there is ##linux too) |
| 08:51.43 | zer0s | cheers! |
| 08:51.44 | zer0s | :) |
| 08:51.52 | ivotkl | I'll go for Linux Mint instead and try it out. |
| 08:52.09 | babilen | ivotkl: Given that this is #debian you might want to support that in here ;) |
| 08:52.30 | babilen | Either way, lets move on … |
| 08:52.45 | ivotkl | Hope there is no taking forever during HDD formatting. I' m thinking it might be hw issue. I've never had a problem at home with Debian disk formatting time when installation. |
| 08:52.51 | ivotkl | babilen, I know. =P |
| 08:52.51 | ivotkl | But, anyway, any ideas why is it taking forever? |
| 08:52.51 | ivotkl | I mean, 1% every 4 minutes is not normal at all. =S |
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| 08:53.52 | ivotkl | Oh, and machine is an i5 with 4GiB RAM. So I have more in my favor. =P |
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| 08:59.26 | James0r2 | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=72004 "There is a known bug in the installer for Wheezy. GRUB installation always fails" that right? |
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| 09:01.42 | kanliot | james ask your q? |
| 09:02.07 | babilen | James0r2: I've installed just fine on a SSD -- Which image did you use and what medium are you installing from? How did you create that and where do you install grub? |
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| 09:03.28 | James0r2 | babilen: debian wheezy 7.4 xfce written to USB on Linux Mint. Installing grub from the installer on the live usb |
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| 09:05.30 | babilen | James0r2: How did you write it to the USB? |
| 09:05.34 | kanliot | what disk are you installing grub 2 , how is that drive partitioned? |
| 09:05.35 | James0r2 | read that someone said running the boot-repair app from a live ubuntu session will fix it |
| 09:05.50 | babilen | James0r2: Err, live USB? You mean you used the live image not the normal installer ones? |
| 09:06.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell James0r2 -about fixmbr |
| 09:06.20 | babilen | That is a general "fix grub" procedure, but I'd like to understand what happened :) |
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| 09:07.01 | James0r2 | maybe i'm mashing up the terms...i mean to say that i am booting from the USB live image. There is a link on the desktop to install Debian Wheezy. I installed that route, and arrived at the step to install grub which failed. |
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| 09:07.25 | kanliot | what disk are you installing grub 2 , how is that drive partitioned? |
| 09:07.37 | James0r2 | i used the guided partitioning...one big partition for everything and another for swap |
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| 09:08.38 | kanliot | do you have 1 hard disk, and was that the target for grub2 install? |
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| 09:08.59 | James0r2 | kanliot: only 1 harddisk...the SSD |
| 09:09.00 | babilen | James0r2: Yes, that is not the most heavily tested installer, but should still work. How did you write that live USB image to your USB? |
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| 09:09.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell James0r2 -about firmware image |
| 09:09.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell James0r2 -about install xfce |
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| 09:09.38 | James0r2 | babilen: An app in Linux Mint (i think LM made, not sure) called "USB Image Writer" |
| 09:09.42 | babilen | James0r2: I always use the proper installer rather than the live usb (even though the live images should work) |
| 09:10.12 | babilen | James0r2: Okay, that might or might not have done the right thing. The official instructions for installing Debian are found in our release notes. |
| 09:10.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell James0r2 -about usb install |
| 09:10.27 | James0r2 | babilen: okay. well i'll give this boot repair thangamadoo a shot and if that fails maybe i'll reinstall with the proper installer |
| 09:10.51 | James0r2 | is the tried and tested installer GUI or CLI? |
| 09:10.56 | babilen | James0r2: It essentially boils down to "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" (with /dev/sdX being something like /dev/sdb and your USB) |
| 09:11.24 | babilen | James0r2: The installer supports both text-mode (standard and expert) and GUI |
| 09:12.13 | James0r2 | babilen: right. dd will do the same thing right? i just like the snazzy GUI |
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| 09:13.26 | kanliot | james you really need to provide the error message. maybe theres some logs or something |
| 09:13.45 | babilen | James0r2: dd will be more awkward to use and be slower in its standard configuration but yes, it should work. |
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| 09:15.15 | James0r2 | kanliot: it's short so ill paste here --> You will need to boot manually with the /vmlinuz kernel on partition /dev/sda1 and root=/dev/sda1 passed as the kernel argument. |
| 09:15.36 | jboogie | I'm in trouble... I acidentally moved libc.so.6 to /tmp and now I can't move it back (nor do almosta anything) because when I run ls,cp,mv or ln I get "error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
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| 09:16.01 | jboogie | this is on a remote server BTW |
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| 09:17.41 | kanliot | James0r2, could you look at /var/log/syslog immediatly after the grub install fails? |
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| 09:20.44 | kanliot | jboogie does scp still work? |
| 09:21.24 | James0r2 | kanliot: sorry i'm re-writing different images to my usb now. i will check that out once i'm back up |
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| 09:25.01 | jboogie | kanliot: no unfortunately, neither ssh (though the one I'm still logged in is working): I get "Connection: closed by remote host" |
| 09:25.45 | jboogie | BTW this is a OpenVZ VPS, so I could still get a root terminal from my hoster website's |
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| 09:26.28 | babilen | jboogie: Does "LD_PRELOAD=/where/you/moved/libc.so.6 ls" work? |
| 09:26.30 | kanliot | jboogie http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2595047/move-copy-files-folder-in-linux-solaris-using-only-bash-built-ins lemem know if it works |
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| 09:28.27 | jboogie | babilen: YES! thank you |
| 09:28.39 | jboogie | had a moment of terror there :) |
| 09:28.59 | babilen | jboogie: Never panic :) |
| 09:29.01 | kanliot | nice |
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| 09:41.42 | jboogie | since we're at it, the original problem was that I couldn't do apt-get operations because there was some conflict with the files of this libraries... some outputs I get: http://pastebin.com/h0fwHeU8 |
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| 09:42.12 | jboogie | (I moved the library to /tmp to try and see if it solved it) |
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| 09:51.53 | killermoehre | hi. what would be the easiest way to send an email at root-login to a specific mail-account? prefered with some pam |
| 09:52.31 | ksk | killermoehre: maybe logcheck (a debian package) can do that |
| 09:52.49 | ksk | i would guess there are pam modules for something like that, too. |
| 09:53.47 | killermoehre | ksk: problem with another daemon would be that if the daemon is not running, you don't get a mail. OTOH pam will work every time |
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| 10:01.43 | ksk | not if mta (a deamon - tada!) is not running |
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| 10:09.05 | killermoehre | ksk: depends on the mail config |
| 10:09.09 | mala | hi, I bought one wireless usb dongle tp-link TL-WN722N and it isnt workig. I'm using debian wheezy, it is up to date. here is the log: http://pastebin.com/KFc5vGA8 |
| 10:09.17 | mala | Could someone help me please? |
| 10:09.19 | killermoehre | ksk: you can send mails without a locla mail daemon |
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| 10:11.27 | musca | hi mala |
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| 10:11.51 | JaneSmith | what debian comes with systemd by default? |
| 10:12.03 | musca | mala: please install the package firmware-atheros from debian non-free repo. |
| 10:12.26 | mala | musca: already did that |
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| 10:13.34 | musca | mala: did you reload the kernel module or reboot the whole system? |
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| 10:13.37 | mala | musca: log that I installed firmware = http://pastebin.com/JFumtPc9 |
| 10:13.47 | mala | musca: reboot |
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| 10:14.51 | musca | mala: does "iwlist scan" show any wireless lans? |
| 10:15.21 | mala | musca: only my laptop wifi that is sux |
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| 10:17.00 | musca | mala: i don't understand. please paste the output on http://paste.debian.net |
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| 10:17.56 | HisaoNakai | Hi. I tried to run qmlscene, and it said 'qmlscene: could not exec '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmlscene': No such file or directory' ... |
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| 10:18.05 | HisaoNakai | Debian Testing, KDE 4.11.3. |
| 10:18.20 | mala | musca: my laptop has an wifi, but I want to use the wifi dongle |
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| 10:18.27 | ksk | JaneSmith: systemd is not the defaukt yet, but will be. you can however install and use it - google and stuff |
| 10:18.31 | ksk | !tell JaneSmith about systemd |
| 10:18.42 | musca | JaneSmith: you can ask in #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 10:19.00 | ksk | JaneSmith: it will be default on jessie - says the bot :) |
| 10:19.35 | HisaoNakai | dpkg: systemd |
| 10:19.35 | dpkg | systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd is shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and will be be the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". http://wiki.debian.org/systemd http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 10:19.52 | mala | musca: http://paste.debian.net/85930/ |
| 10:20.03 | musca | thx |
| 10:20.04 | mala | musca: wlan0 = laptop wifi |
| 10:20.05 | JaneSmith | well congrats for picking systemd not upstart :) |
| 10:20.18 | viscera | JaneSmith, it's not quite over yet |
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| 10:20.49 | JaneSmith | so 'you' still debate over having the canonical thingy? :) |
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| 10:21.40 | ksk | nah |
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| 10:22.26 | musca | JaneSmith: canonical did abandon upstart already. |
| 10:23.18 | JaneSmith | that was the right move since debian will use systemd :) |
| 10:24.23 | JaneSmith | thx for the info guys |
| 10:25.27 | killermoehre | ksk: pam_exec and a script is my friend for emailing :D |
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| 10:29.51 | musca | mala: please reinsert your usb wifi dongle and past the output of "dmesg | tail -n 25" on http://paste.debian.net |
| 10:29.54 | mala | musca: my raspberrian pi made the wifi works |
| 10:30.17 | musca | mala: that's fine. |
| 10:30.34 | mala | musca: i will put it again at my laptop |
| 10:30.46 | steven7731 | What are the characteristics of programs which do not work (well) with tiling window managers? Are there many of such programs and is it a frequent problem when using tiling window manager on a daily basis? |
| 10:32.54 | mala | musca: http://paste.debian.net/85935/ |
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| 10:34.22 | anonnumberanon | What's wrong with accessing any drives in Debian at random occurences and a lot right after you restart or start? |
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| 10:36.03 | colo-work | hi there |
| 10:36.08 | musca | anonnumberanon: that's usuall system work like mounting partitions or usb keys. |
| 10:36.14 | colo-work | we have a 32bit Debian installation on a host that's now running a 64bit kernel |
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| 10:36.37 | colo-work | with Wheezy' multiarch, is it possible to install a 64bit perl from Debian's Wheezy packages on such a host? |
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| 10:36.56 | anonnumberanon | musca no it's not like mounting a usb, that takes less than a second, my problem is for it taking 10 seconds or 15 seconds |
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| 10:37.56 | musca | anonnumberanon: "it"? |
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| 10:39.43 | tremon | colo-work: theoretically, yes. However it would require all dependencies of perl to have correct multi-arch tags, and you'll also have to migrate any programs that link to perl libraries (if any) |
| 10:40.15 | colo-work | hmm I see. |
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| 10:40.21 | Lope | does virtualization technology slow a computer down? If I'm just running host software and no VMs would I see a performance boost by disabling it? |
| 10:40.30 | colo-work | can you think of any other way to allow the perl interpreter to allocate more than 4GB of memory? |
| 10:40.39 | colo-work | Lope, nope |
| 10:40.48 | musca | Lope: no. |
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| 10:42.46 | tremon | colo-work: I don't think so. There's PAE for i386, but I don't think it allows one program to access >3GB. It just allows the kernel to allocate different 3GB slices to different programs |
| 10:43.11 | musca | mala: perhaps you need a newer kernel with a newer ath9k_htc kernel module. |
| 10:43.37 | musca | mala: you can try the kernel from debian backports |
| 10:43.42 | musca | !bdo kernel |
| 10:43.43 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
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| 10:46.39 | mala | aptitude update |
| 10:46.43 | mala | sorry |
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| 10:52.08 | jelly | colo-work: just use an amd64 chroot |
| 10:52.25 | mala | musca: something like linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 10:52.27 | mala | > |
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| 10:58.05 | colo-work | jelly, interesting idea, I'll give it some thought |
| 10:58.33 | colo-work | (problem is, it's a system with a nextensive history and much accumulated technical debt; I doubt I'll get everything to work as it should in a chroot) |
| 10:59.16 | waqstar | How would one rescan for a new scsi disk, without rebooting? |
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| 10:59.55 | behruz | I have a question how can i install master collection 5 in debian 7 it means wine and flash cs5 |
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| 11:01.54 | mala | musca: thank you for your help |
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| 11:02.09 | mala | musca: I'm already downloading the new backport kernel |
| 11:02.31 | jelly | colo-work: alias perl='sudo chroot /bin/su user -c /srv/wheezy64/usr/bin/perl' |
| 11:02.33 | jelly | hides |
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| 11:03.01 | colo-work | hehe |
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| 11:03.11 | behruz | Is it possible! |
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| 11:26.36 | tricolor | :) |
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| 11:33.20 | HisaoNakai | Hi. I tried to run qmlscene, and it said 'qmlscene: could not exec '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmlscene': No such file or directory' ...Debian Testing, KDE 4.11.3... |
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| 11:35.39 | wadada | guys urgently need oto access a mac drive which live usb distro should I download . . .slim and fast |
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| 11:41.25 | Ritzton | I am doing : su -l user -c "screen -dmS app_name node /home/user/app/app.js", the problem is my node.js program is executing commands that need env variables, so I have set it inside the .profile of the user, but I don't know each time I am trying to execute another command with the node.js program the screen session is shutting down, would you know what I am missing ? |
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| 11:56.50 | cromag | is it possible to log outgoing connections to ie. and ftp server, and place it in syslog ? |
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| 11:57.05 | yalex | Hello, how can I set apt to remove deb files once installed? |
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| 12:00.17 | ksk | yalex: you can do "apt-get remove $package" see man apt-get |
| 12:00.22 | ksk | !tell yalex about apt-get |
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| 12:00.43 | boudiccas | yalex; 'sudo apt-get clean' also read 'man apt-get' |
| 12:01.01 | yalex | yes but is there a setting to change the default behaviour of preserving downloaded deb files? |
| 12:01.43 | boudiccas | yalex; do as i do and run 'apt-get clean' from a cron job weekly |
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| 12:02.25 | yalex | that would work boudiccas |
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| 12:02.45 | yalex | Using a raspberry pi and space on an SDcard is a premium |
| 12:02.46 | newbie|1 | Good morning everyone. |
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| 12:03.02 | Grubenstein | Stupid nick. |
| 12:03.08 | boudiccas | yalex; it does, i've been using it like that for over a year now :) |
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| 12:05.26 | Grubenstein | I have a bit of a fun problem for everyone, and I think you will crucify me for it. I was mucking about installing Debian to a Flash Drive, and everything went okay. I decided to experiment with the encryption settings, and encrypted the USB disk that debian was installed to. Only I think the installer also encrypted the /boot on the USB. Wheezy of course. |
| 12:05.43 | Grubenstein | did some research in Google for getting GRUB to play with LUKS, and it would seem that it's still in development with a few hacky workarounds. |
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| 12:05.53 | Grubenstein | Just wanting to do a sanity check with some people <3 |
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| 12:06.44 | Grubenstein | The most perplexing issue I did encounter was why the install, once the device was encrypted, took 24 hours when it was an install from USB to USB. I didn't find any results for that one, though, and have no idea how to investigate it as a bug. |
| 12:06.56 | yalex | WHile I'm here, thoughts on a new laptop nvidia or amd? |
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| 12:07.33 | Grubenstein | yalex: AMD. I highly recommend the upcoming APU line. |
| 12:07.58 | yalex | even though the last two times I had amd irritated me with proprietary drivers? Grubenstein |
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| 12:08.33 | Grubenstein | yalex: Unfortunately that is a problem that will continue to persist until APU adoption is more widespread on *nix systems, I believe. |
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| 12:09.28 | Tlin | How can I chroot Apache/PHP/CGI/SSH/FTP in Debian? |
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| 12:10.20 | brightkill | chroot Apache? |
| 12:11.04 | Tlin | Yes, chroot/jail it. |
| 12:11.10 | ksk | Tlin: put it in a container, use LXC or openvz |
| 12:11.25 | Grubenstein | 8 |
| 12:11.41 | Grubenstein | Derp. Apparently I keep seeing xhost mentioned for graphically using chroot. |
| 12:11.46 | Grubenstein | That might help? |
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| 12:12.20 | anonnumberanon | musca, you click on the file browser or on any drive on the desktop and it takes 15 seonds about to open |
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| 12:13.54 | rjsalts | Grubenstein, you can also copy the Xauthority file from whatever your home directory is to inside the chroot |
| 12:14.08 | Tlin | ksk: So I create a vm for apache? Wouldn't it slow everyting down? |
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| 12:14.19 | Grubenstein | rjsalts: Admittedly, I have not utilized chroot yet. I am still in the "Oh my God everything does awesome things" phase of exploring *Nix systems. |
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| 12:14.33 | Grubenstein | Hence my muckup with apparently accidentally allowing LUKS to encrypt the /boot on a USB. |
| 12:15.01 | Grubenstein | ...Either that or I need some proprietary driver, but I am uncertain how to install that to the USB once I decrypt it on a different Linux system. Bah. I'll figure it out. |
| 12:15.03 | rjsalts | Grubenstein, if you're doing xhost it will let anyone on the host do anything. If you're using the MIT magic cookie then only things with the cookie can access |
| 12:15.09 | Grubenstein | I'm having fun breaking things on my USB linux systems :D |
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| 12:16.01 | Grubenstein | rjsalts: I thought the key to using chroot properly is very carefully defining access privileges to ensure elevation cannot occur? The cookie is a secondary authentication method, isn't it? |
| 12:16.03 | rjsalts | Grubenstein, might not be an issue if nobody else has local account on the system |
| 12:16.18 | Grubenstein | rjsalts: Well, Tlin is the person who was asking. XD |
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| 12:16.57 | rjsalts | Grubenstein, if you're talking about X security via xhost then basically lets anyone from a specific ip connect to the X server and they can sniff keys, display anything they want, etc. |
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| 12:17.15 | Grubenstein | rjsalts: ._. Oh. Oh my. |
| 12:17.59 | rjsalts | Grubenstein, which would mean if you did xhost +localhost or something and any other person had access to your computer they could do evil stuff, like steal your password, etc. |
| 12:18.21 | Grubenstein | I think if they legitimately get access to your computer at that point, you have a lot more to worry about. |
| 12:18.29 | ksk | Tlin: in theory yes. you probably will not recognize it |
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| 12:19.32 | rjsalts | Grubenstein, but it's uneccesary. There is a file in your home directory called .Xauthority which will tells all you X clients how to connect to the X server slightly more securely than by ip address alone |
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| 12:19.45 | Tlin | ksk: Thanks, I will try this |
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| 12:40.09 | dokma | can RAID1 array be used while resyncing? |
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| 12:40.32 | dokma | I want to go on to create LVM volume on it |
| 12:40.48 | dokma | has about half an hour left |
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| 12:47.22 | deadlyninja | im having a bit of an emergency here, how can i change the max number of files a user may open? i updated /etc/security/limits.conf and relogged the user but the user max open files is 1024 still |
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| 12:48.41 | jelly | deadlyninja: how do you log them in and how do you start the process that needs to have increased nofile limit? |
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| 12:50.11 | jelly | deadlyninja: show your "grep -v ^# /etc/security/limits.conf" and output of "ulimit -a" when you log in as the right user |
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| 12:51.22 | jelly | dokma: in general, yes |
| 12:51.46 | deadlyninja | jelly, i sudo su - user |
| 12:52.04 | deadlyninja | i run the process with a script that restarts it if it fails |
| 12:52.09 | lapache | Hello, can't see U+26F5 (sailboat) and some others unicode chars on my computer, do i missed a font package or what ? |
| 12:52.38 | jelly | deadlyninja: do you have pam_limits.so enabled in /etc/pam.d/su ? |
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| 12:53.27 | deadlyninja | pam_limits.so is commented out |
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| 12:54.05 | deadlyninja | <username> soft nofiles 10000 |
| 12:54.13 | deadlyninja | <username> hard nofiles 20000 |
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| 12:54.15 | jelly | deadlyninja: /etc/security/limits.conf is config file for that pam module. If the pam module isn't active at all, you won't get the settings applied |
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| 12:54.37 | deadlyninja | jelly, is there another way without pam? |
| 12:55.02 | jelly | deadlyninja: only if you're root |
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| 12:55.34 | deadlyninja | jelly how can i get pam to reload |
| 12:56.02 | pat^ | hi, does anybody know why the dante-client package has been dropped from jessie? |
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| 12:56.33 | jelly | deadlyninja: no need to. Next time su is used it will read and apply the new config |
| 12:56.49 | deadlyninja | ok its the wrong number, but its higher |
| 12:56.58 | deadlyninja | 4096 instead of 10k, but thats ok for now |
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| 12:57.49 | deadlyninja | crap didnt fix it, we are in trouble |
| 12:57.49 | jelly | deadlyninja: what do ulimit -n and ulimit -nH actually say? |
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| 13:00.54 | deadlyninja | jelly, 1024 and 4096 |
| 13:00.57 | apostle | how do I check which current release of Debian Wheezy I am running? |
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| 13:01.39 | rjsalts | apostle, lsb_release -r |
| 13:01.42 | jelly | deadlyninja: which debian release is this? |
| 13:01.53 | deadlyninja | testing |
| 13:01.54 | babilen | apostle: Well, check which packages would be upgraded, but you might be looking for "cat /etc/debian_version" |
| 13:02.51 | deadlyninja | jelly, 'jessie' |
| 13:03.07 | jelly | deadlyninja: do I want to know why you're using jessie in production? |
| 13:03.11 | jelly | (I don't) |
| 13:03.38 | deadlyninja | its mostly to do with packages being from this decade |
| 13:04.09 | abrotman | deadlyninja: that's a really poor reason given the security support in jessie |
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| 13:04.32 | abrotman | and the general stability |
| 13:04.33 | jelly | deadlyninja: pastebin the actual output of sudo su - whatever user, ulimit -a, ulimit -aH, and the way you start your service |
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| 13:05.13 | jelly | deadlyninja: and the current contents of limits.conf and /etc/pam.d/su |
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| 13:07.19 | apostle | rjsalts, |
| 13:07.24 | apostle | rjsalts, thats it thanks |
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| 13:08.20 | jelly | deadlyninja: also, "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy dpkg libc6 login libpam0g" just to see how sanely apt is configured |
| 13:10.24 | deadlyninja | jelly, http://pastebin.com/mQZwCWtE |
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| 13:10.45 | deadlyninja | its a very new installation |
| 13:10.57 | deadlyninja | nothing has been changed in those things |
| 13:12.35 | deadlyninja | jelly, http://pastebin.com/jK4P7ktj |
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| 13:15.30 | superlinux-hp | hi. how can I stop Rhythmbox from running automatically on mobile phone plugin? |
| 13:15.41 | superlinux-hp | I am on GNOME |
| 13:15.45 | ChrisH | I am trying to install Debian (tried stable, testing) onto a new Toshiba Satelitte. All boot and allow setting to KDE/Export Install/NON-GUI. But when the installer boots/starts the screen gets blank and nothing happens. ALT-Fx do not work. googleing for the specific model did not show up much hits related to Linux or Debian. Where should I continue? |
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| 13:20.29 | jelly | deadlyninja: I guess you could upgrade libpam0g but I doubt that will make any difference |
| 13:20.48 | themill | (jessie-backports also makes no sense) |
| 13:21.09 | jelly | deadlyninja: also, when I asked for actual output, I meant actual output and not munging the username with <user> |
| 13:21.24 | deadlyninja | its a simple s// |
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| 13:22.48 | jelly | sorry, we're dealing with all kinds of users and an additional layer of munging just makes it harder to find the cause and help |
| 13:23.59 | jelly | deadlyninja: limits.conf ought to say "nofile" instead of "nofiles" |
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| 13:25.54 | deadlyninja | jelly that worked |
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| 13:26.34 | deadlyninja | jelly, thanks a ton |
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| 13:27.12 | superlinux-hp | hi. how can I stop Rhythmbox from running automatically on mobile phone plugin? |
| 13:28.18 | jelly | deadlyninja: cheers. Remember to donate to SPI! https://www.debian.org/donations |
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| 13:29.39 | Assada | superlinux-hp: Daemon? |
| 13:29.44 | jelly | deadlyninja: also, I have no idea what the "nopen" parameter for pam_limits.so in your /etc/pam.d/su does |
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| 13:30.09 | jelly | oh, misread that. Ignore. |
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| 13:31.35 | deadlyninja | jelly, nopen is in there by default |
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| 13:32.15 | wonko | ugh, this vgchange thing is killing me, everything I search on points to lvm2 not being installed into the initramfs correctly. That is not my case, it's there, it just isn't doing what it should. |
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| 13:33.10 | deadlyninja | jelly, are you part of the debian team or are you just someone helping out |
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| 13:33.55 | jelly | deadlyninja: I am just someone |
| 13:34.05 | themill | lies! |
| 13:34.12 | jelly | debian is 100% volunteers anyway |
| 13:34.22 | jelly | at least in theory |
| 13:34.28 | themill | deadlyninja: everyone in debian is "just helping out" to some degree |
| 13:34.56 | jelly | bets there's at least five people getting paid for their work in Debian... and keeping quiet about it |
| 13:35.26 | themill | not paid by debian |
| 13:35.56 | wonko | so what would cause a machine (two VMs in my case) to not being able to find its disks and require a 'lvm vgchange -ay' at the (initramfs) prompt to get it booted? |
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| 13:37.03 | deadlyninja | im trying to figure out if i should buy you a beer or give it to spi |
| 13:37.06 | wonko | and that was quite possibly the worst sentence i've ever written |
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| 13:38.39 | deadlyninja | i guess you linked spi |
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| 13:39.34 | superlinux-hp | hi. how can I stop Rhythmbox from running automatically on mobile phone plugin? |
| 13:39.56 | jelly | wonko: initramfs not having correct modules to find and read the disks? |
| 13:40.35 | wonko | jelly: that can't possibly be the case or the vgchange would also fail, wouldn't it? |
| 13:40.58 | jelly | wonko: are you saying doing a manual vgchange -ay succeeds? |
| 13:41.01 | wonko | yes |
| 13:41.11 | jelly | hmm |
| 13:41.19 | jelly | wonko: which debian release? |
| 13:41.27 | wonko | and the super odd thing is out of the 600 squeeze vms we have only these two are doing it |
| 13:41.30 | wonko | squeeze |
| 13:41.58 | jelly | wonko: in debian 5 or 6, I had to boot with root=/dev/mapper/vgname-lvname (not root=UUID, not root=/dev/vgname/lvname) |
| 13:42.14 | wonko | hmmm |
| 13:42.19 | wonko | i can try that |
| 13:42.25 | wonko | but why these two? that's the part that gets me |
| 13:42.31 | wonko | and i'm sure they worked properly at some point |
| 13:43.03 | jelly | the specific "/dev/mapper/*-*" match triggers a fallback code path that tries to run vgchange -ay anyway |
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| 13:43.41 | jelly | didn't find out the reason why it really failed, and it seems to be fixed in wheezy anyway |
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| 13:44.27 | wonko | it's very odd that they should start doing this (and only these two) |
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| 13:44.36 | wonko | i'll try the root= thing and see if that fixes it |
| 13:44.49 | wonko | the plan is to eventually get everything up to wheezy, but that's a hell of a plan. :) |
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| 13:45.51 | tremon | wonko: read /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/lvm2 -- lvm isn't setup unless your root= argument starts with /dev/mapper |
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| 13:46.37 | wonko | tremon: so why do all the others work just fine? |
| 13:47.08 | wonko | hmm, maybe i'll check, maybe that's what it is |
| 13:47.19 | wonko | all the others are pointed to /dev/mapper and these two somehow got altered |
| 13:47.20 | tremon | can't tell you why. I'm just a human parsing shell code :) |
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| 13:50.16 | wonko | tremon: that appears to be it exactly! |
| 13:50.28 | wonko | looking at working VMs they all have root=/dev/mapper/kjhskdhskd |
| 13:50.39 | wonko | these two have root=/dev/disk/by-id/kjhksdfhj |
| 13:50.42 | wonko | wow |
| 13:50.49 | wonko | i wonder how that happened |
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| 13:50.51 | wonko | and thanks! |
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| 13:51.53 | wonko | actually, to be more accurate, the broken ones have root=UUID=kjljsaljdgjfdg |
| 13:52.41 | superlinux-hp | hi. how can I stop any media player from running automatically on mobile phone plugin? سبØان الله this is the 3rd shout. |
| 13:54.01 | jelly | wonko: yeah, that's the default (sometimes), disable UUID in /etc/default/grub, perhaps force root=... GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= and rerun /usr/sbin/update-grub |
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| 13:54.48 | ChrisH | I am trying to install Debian (tried stable, testing) onto a new Toshiba Satelitte. All boot and allow setting to KDE/Export Install/NON-GUI. But when the installer boots/starts the screen gets blank and nothing happens. ALT-Fx do not work. googleing for the specific model did not show up much hits related to Linux or Debian. Where can I continue? |
| 13:55.07 | tremon | superlinux-hp: try asking #gnome if no one here can answer your question |
| 13:55.15 | superlinux-hp | ok. thanks |
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| 13:57.18 | Cyis | anyone happen to have a Dell Latitude E7240 running Wheezy? or know which NIC driver should be loaded for a device which 'lspci -nn' reports as "Intel Corporation Device [8086:155a] (rev 04)" ... Google-fu has only turned up a Debian user forum post where someone asked about it on Crunchbang and was told since it wasn't Debian to look elsewhere |
| 13:57.19 | wols | ChrisH: try to disable framebuffer/kms |
| 13:57.52 | wols | ,pciid 8086:155a |
| 13:57.53 | judd | [8086:155a] is 'Ethernet Connection I218-LM' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:155a |
| 13:58.13 | ChrisH | wols: do you have the kernel option to do that at hand? |
| 13:58.15 | wols | so it's an intel i218. I suggest try a backports kernel |
| 13:58.20 | wols | ChrisH: no, sorry |
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| 13:58.25 | wols | !nokms |
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| 13:58.42 | wols | ChrisH: kms is via "nomodeset" |
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| 13:58.49 | tremon | ChrisH: if it's an amd-based laptop, you may need an installer with included firmware, or even a newer kernel |
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| 13:59.55 | ChrisH | tremon: its AMD powered and I will try fb=false |
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| 14:00.25 | r420r | i did rm -rf /etc/dovecot |
| 14:00.32 | r420r | how i can install it agian ? |
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| 14:02.24 | themill | dpkg: tell r420r about ucf confmiss |
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| 14:02.56 | tremon | iirc all recent amd graphics driver require firmware even for basic 2d usage. disabling framebuffer may help, or you may need to blacklist the radeon module completely (modprobe.blacklist=radeon, but I'm not sure that works for the installer) |
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| 14:03.44 | tremon | ChrisH: ^^ |
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| 14:05.19 | tremon | ChrisH: appears to be radeon.blacklist=yes, according to https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.html.en |
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| 14:07.05 | jelly | r420r: run dpkg -S /etc/dovecot, see which package(s) brought the files, then read the stuff in /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 14:07.07 | wonko | jelly: I wonder why these two got switched to UUID though? weird. |
| 14:07.35 | jelly | wonko: a fresh installation or a lenny->squeeze upgrade might have done that |
| 14:08.03 | r420r | jeekl , it working with dovecot-core |
| 14:08.21 | r420r | i think it works |
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| 14:08.47 | jelly | r420r: could be /msg dpkg ucf confmiss |
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| 14:09.21 | r420r | yeah i see , i am trying it now |
| 14:09.36 | r420r | UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=true it is good flag |
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| 14:10.51 | jelly | it's possible there's a typo in dpkg's factoid and there just one F in CONFMISS! |
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| 14:12.05 | themill | not according to the man page |
| 14:12.16 | wonko | jelly: unfortunately it's hard to say, these two pre-date me. :) |
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| 14:13.35 | themill | http://sources.debian.net/src/ucf/3.0027%2Bnmu1/ucf#L460 |
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| 14:14.37 | ChrisH | tremon: fb=true did not change anything. Where do I find eg. an unstable install image with firmware? I allways search for those links |
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| 14:19.11 | wols | ChrisH: you should know by now that you don't use unstable install images (if they even existed). you install debian stable |
| 14:19.28 | wonko | jelly: uncommenting that did the trick, thanks! |
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| 14:20.28 | ChrisH | wols: well I tried with stable firmware enabled Netinstaller without success. I do want to test Ubunut here :( |
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| 14:21.22 | wonko | jelly: now fix my multipath problem. :) |
| 14:21.33 | tremon | ChrisH: it's here: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ but there are known issues with it. I recommend you to ask #debian-boot on oftc. And yes, you can't install stable with it |
| 14:22.00 | tremon | ChrisH: did you try radeon.blacklist=yes? |
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| 14:23.17 | ChrisH | tremon: added vga=normal fb=true radeon.blacklist=yes and still only a black screen after pressing F10 |
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| 14:34.04 | aton` | i need libgmp for programming. what can i expect to be in the package libgmp10 in comparison to libgmp-dev ? |
| 14:34.36 | petern_ | nothing useful for development will be in libgmp10 |
| 14:34.44 | colo-work | you need the -dev package to be able to link against the library in your code |
| 14:35.02 | colo-work | well, it helps being able to run the binaries you compile, don't you think? :) |
| 14:35.17 | rsd | is there any issue with 7.4 regarding UEFI install on a 4TB ? BIOS UEFI boot = on. Install goes fine, but wont boot. Intel MB. |
| 14:35.26 | aton` | so if i cannot link vs the stuff in libgmp10, what is in there? |
| 14:35.31 | aton` | what can it be used for? |
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| 14:35.40 | petern_ | libgmp10 is the library |
| 14:35.46 | petern_ | libgmp-dev is the development stuff for it |
| 14:35.49 | petern_ | quite simple i though |
| 14:36.01 | aton` | so header files etc all in -dev package? |
| 14:36.15 | petern_ | yes |
| 14:36.23 | aton` | okay |
| 14:36.27 | aton` | thanks for the help |
| 14:37.07 | Cyis | hmm.. this E7240 is being tricksy... it sees the Atheros wifi but only offers WEP & WPA2 PSK neither of which will connect for me and I've been unable to get it to see the integrated NIC at all even though it's enabled in BIOS and shows link to the switch |
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| 14:38.24 | wols | Cyis: what kernel version? |
| 14:38.35 | superlinux-hp | tremon i found the solution. set the following debconf editor path to ON : /org/gnome/desktop/media-handling/autorun-never/ |
| 14:38.40 | Cyis | I know this laptop will work... Ubuntu 12.04 is certified on it... If I wanted to use that filth |
| 14:38.51 | ChrisH | hmmm. now bootetd grml.org and there (with disabled FB or disabled kernel mode setting) all show "booting kernel" "starting initrd" and then ist finished. |
| 14:38.58 | Cyis | wols: I'm trying to install with a 7.4 DVD image copied to USB stick |
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| 14:39.13 | wols | Cyis: and why do you need the network then? |
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| 14:41.20 | Cyis | I guess my attempt to skip networking that failed with hostname screen must have been because I didn't give FQDN and it tried to resolve domain |
| 14:42.38 | Cyis | and graphical install won't give me the option to skip networking |
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| 14:46.39 | Cyis | wols: reason I need networking is the entire install process shits on itself and keeps forcing me back to network config... skipped configuring networking and went on to username/password and it's pushed me back to network config |
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| 14:47.06 | ChrisH | Ubuntu does also not boot... |
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| 14:50.50 | fergal32 | waves hello |
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| 14:51.18 | wols | Cyis: you are wrong. no debian installer needs network access at any time. better with, but it's not actually needed |
| 14:51.24 | fergal32 | just installed debian wheezy after that i upgraded to jessie |
| 14:51.58 | wols | Cyis: especially not if you install with full dvd1 |
| 14:52.02 | fergal32 | but now when i try to start e.g. gparted it doesn´t ask for a root password. am i missing something? |
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| 14:52.59 | wols | fergal32: just starting gparted doesn't necessarily need root access. just doing stuff like moving a partition does |
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| 14:54.27 | fergal32 | wols: i know but i need root access to it and i´m to lazy to start it with gksu gparted from console but i want to start it graphically |
| 14:54.27 | ecthiender | I want to check if my hdd has bad sectors, whats the best way to do it? Boot in recovery mode and run e2fsck with fs not mounted? |
| 14:54.28 | fergal32 | :D |
| 14:55.13 | ecthiender | I tried badblocks, it was running for 4 hours before I aborted it (in read-only mode).. |
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| 14:55.42 | ecthiender | when I ran fsck on boot, fsck did not report me any errors.. |
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| 14:56.25 | ecthiender | but strangely, when I aborted the badblocks, it reported me about 8 blocks.. |
| 14:56.31 | ecthiender | which are probably bad.. |
| 14:56.41 | Cyis | wols: I'd agree with that if it wasn't for the fact that trying to go through the installer I kept being thrown back to configure network after I selected "no network config at this time" |
| 14:56.49 | ecthiender | sorry, should have typed the whole thing in one sentence.. |
| 14:57.26 | Cyis | I'm making a new image to see if it was perhaps corrupted |
| 14:58.06 | Cyis | I'm also downloading the weekly testing image to try if this fails again |
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| 15:04.44 | steven7731 | While most of the Linux software-RAID related tutorials suggest to have the mdadm.conf file up to date, then is it actually needed or used any more? I mean all the data needed by kernel for creating the RAID arrays should be stored in the superblocks, shouldn't it? |
| 15:04.46 | steven7731 | Or in which situation the mdadm.conf is needed? |
| 15:05.52 | jelly | wonko: sure. $100/hr, 4 hours in advance |
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| 15:06.37 | frostschutz | steven7731, if you want mail when your md fails, you need MAILADDR in mdadm.conf :-P |
| 15:07.57 | frostschutz | steven7731, it's also used to give your md static names. the auto assemble might not respect that and give you random /dev/md12x. |
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| 15:09.19 | lavoro92 | hi |
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| 15:09.38 | wonko | jelly: done. :) |
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| 15:10.54 | wonko | jelly: where would you like your Monopoly money sent? :) |
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| 15:11.30 | lavoro92 | i'm new in this community and i have a big bug. |
| 15:11.35 | lavoro92 | (imo) |
| 15:11.51 | jelly | wonko: I accept paypal and BTC! :-) |
| 15:13.07 | Cyis | looks like I had a bad copy |
| 15:13.16 | Cyis | installer working now |
| 15:13.27 | aton` | i just installed gcc 4.7.2-1 |
| 15:13.30 | aton` | in 3 seconds |
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| 15:13.45 | lavoro92 | the bug is that : i have 20gb free in one ntfs partition( at least said df -h) but when i try to copy /create file it says that i have no space |
| 15:13.50 | lavoro92 | how is it possible? |
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| 15:14.54 | gnugnu8 | lavoro92: just a guess: but this often happens when an error occurs in underlying components and is interpreted as 'disk storage full' |
| 15:15.02 | steven7731 | frostschutz, ok, I overlooked the e-mail address :) However, isn't the name also in superblock? There are "set_uuid" and "set_name" fields in superblocks: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_superblock_formats |
| 15:15.05 | aton` | lavoro92: fs ro? |
| 15:15.20 | James0r | to whoever was recommending i use the proper installer instead of the live session installer, that ended up being the trick. grub installs fine now |
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| 15:15.47 | frostschutz | steven7731, yes, but it's ignored most of the time since it also likes to check hostname which is usually not yet set properly in initramfs and such like |
| 15:16.01 | jelly | lavoro92: could be a number of reasons, eg. any compressed files will count as total, uncompressed size when creating a new file is attempted |
| 15:16.15 | jelly | kind of goes against the whole idea of using compression |
| 15:16.18 | lavoro92 | i had try to repair with gparted but nothing |
| 15:16.40 | jelly | lavoro92: you'll have to use native windows tools to repair ntfs properly |
| 15:17.01 | jelly | (if it's broken; it could be working as designed) |
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| 15:18.16 | lavoro92 | :S |
| 15:18.26 | lavoro92 | is it possible to convert in ext4 without format? |
| 15:18.42 | jelly | no |
| 15:19.16 | steven7731 | frostschutz, ok, I see. Thanks! |
| 15:19.19 | ecthiender | umm so I installed smartmontools, and ran smartctl so in that report: the section Reallocated Sector Count shows a warning, and says the worst value is 58 and I have 880 bad sectors.. |
| 15:19.34 | ecthiender | what does that mean in terms of hdd health? |
| 15:19.42 | frostschutz | ecthiender, it's dead, jim |
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| 15:20.20 | jelly | ecthiender: probably "Time to backup any data not already backed up" |
| 15:20.42 | ecthiender | frostschutz, jelly aha.. |
| 15:21.23 | ecthiender | so how can I be sure this is not a logical failure, which can get corrected by a format etc. but a mechanical failure? |
| 15:21.45 | frostschutz | ecthiender, there is no logical failure |
| 15:22.00 | wonko | jelly: Monopoly BTC! I see a new version of Monopoly being released. :) |
| 15:22.35 | ecthiender | Because apparently, smartctl says SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED |
| 15:22.37 | jelly | wonko: my magic wand says your monopoly multipath works already. |
| 15:22.43 | wonko | heh |
| 15:23.15 | frostschutz | ecthiender, yes, it says that too for completely broken disks... |
| 15:23.17 | wonko | it needs to come with those magic BTC "sticks" they use on Almost Human. :) |
| 15:23.24 | ecthiender | but I am worried because recently my system freezes and becomes unresposive from time to time and then resues..and it happens whatever application/OS/dDE I use..and happens in tty also.. |
| 15:23.27 | wonko | anyway, this has gotten quite off topoc |
| 15:23.32 | wonko | topic* |
| 15:23.32 | ecthiender | frostschutz, oh I didn't know that :P |
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| 15:23.56 | ecthiender | frostschutz, right. thanks! then I need throw this jim out.. |
| 15:24.03 | jelly | ecthiender: that amount of bad sectors is indicative of a physical failure on at least one part of the platter(s), but I guess you could do a SECURE ERASE, then do a write/read test over the whole disk and see if it's reliable |
| 15:24.13 | WilliamDotSI | mhm Debian does support 2 AMD GPUs and multi screens? |
| 15:24.16 | WilliamDotSI | i run 6 screens |
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| 15:24.51 | ecthiender | jelly, its a TOSHIBA disk, are they good manufacturers? |
| 15:25.15 | ecthiender | should I really go through that lengthy(read painful) process? |
| 15:25.27 | jelly | ecthiender: there's no way to answer that. All the vendors that existed had flukes and good series. |
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| 15:25.38 | jhutchins | I think I have seen systems on DHCP that would assume their previously assigned address if no DHCP response was received on boot. Is there a way to control that behavior? |
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| 15:25.46 | ecthiender | jelly, hmm..thanks for an honest answer.. |
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| 15:41.28 | gnugnu8 | Just saw that ubuntu can run without modifications in lxc container, when will this be introduced to debian, too? |
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| 15:43.46 | musca | !lxc |
| 15:43.46 | dpkg | Linux Containers (LXC) is an open source virtualization system using kernel-level isolation. http://wiki.debian.org/LXC http://lxc.sf.net/ See also <virtualization>. |
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| 15:53.42 | musca | ,v lxc-stuff |
| 15:53.43 | judd | Package: lxc-stuff on i386 -- experimental: 1.0.0~alpha3-1; experimental: 1.0.0-4 |
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| 15:55.09 | musca | gnugnu8: ok, there is progress for very early adopters. |
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| 15:59.10 | aton` | I: Retrieving zlib1g 1%3a1.2.7.dfsg-13 <- takes about 5 minutes now, how can i check whats wrong? that package is a few kb |
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| 16:01.41 | WilliamDotSI | in a none clone configuration |
| 16:01.45 | WilliamDotSI | eh wrong chan |
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| 16:02.28 | aton` | in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial there is -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14K Mar 7 16:45 zlib1g_1%3a1.2.7.dfsg-13_amd64.deb |
| 16:02.51 | xx-michel-xx | holaaakk |
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| 16:04.21 | xx-michel-xx | :-D |
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| 16:04.44 | aton` | now it just continued |
| 16:04.50 | xx-michel-xx | hello |
| 16:04.55 | aton` | wow such wtf |
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| 16:06.56 | James0r3 | brand new to debian. my sources list seemed a little empty after fresh install so i added the examples off the DebianSoftware wiki page and that hooked me up with all the software i need. but now my sources is pretty mucked up. all kinds of duplicates. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7050689/ |
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| 16:07.03 | James0r3 | can someone tell me how to clean this file up? |
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| 16:07.24 | James0r3 | i just want the main repos with non-free and contrib |
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| 16:07.30 | ChrisH | ,pciid 1002:9830 |
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| 16:07.31 | judd | [1002:9830] is 'Kabini [Radeon HD 8400]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:9830 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 16:07.34 | musca | !sources |
| 16:07.35 | rsarson | hi! i hope i'm in the right channel (if not, please redirect me). i'm setting up a few demonstration computers with debian and would like some suggestions for hostnames & usernames & passwords (i will not be adding myself as root/admin). |
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| 16:09.25 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
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| 16:10.25 | musca | James0r3: ^ do you see what dpkg said? |
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| 16:11.27 | James0r3 | musca, cool thanks. |
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| 16:11.50 | musca | James0r3: feel free to add "contrib non-free" to the lines. |
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| 16:12.13 | lvh | Hi! |
| 16:12.30 | lvh | do I need to use a particular kernel image on wheezy in order to function as a Xen domU? |
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| 16:12.53 | Sbroker | Hi from Spain julandrones anglo hablantes |
| 16:12.57 | ChrisH | What information can I get from this line from http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/DRM_RADEON.html "lkddb pci 1002 9830 .... .... ...... : CONFIG_DRM_RADEON : drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_drv.c # in 3.11–3.13, 3.14-rc+HEAD" ? Is that graphic card supported in Kernel 3.11 and newer? |
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| 16:16.22 | James0r3 | is iceweasel identical to firefox? |
| 16:16.32 | James0r3 | add-on compatibility and everything else? |
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| 16:17.43 | rudi_s | James0r3: Yes. |
| 16:17.47 | brontosaurusrex | James0r, yes |
| 16:19.13 | rudi_s | !tell James0r3 about why iceweasel |
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| 16:22.12 | cdb2 | hello, i have successfully installed a bridged openvpn connection. a question we are 100 people with Gbit Access on LAN and have 100Mbit/10Mbit Down/UP. can a broadcast from my 100 pcs at lan cause upstream congestion? |
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| 16:22.43 | cdb2 | 1 access lan with openvpn client the rest is at lan (100 clients with 1gibt/s) |
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| 16:23.03 | cdb2 | how much broadcast traffic would go through the vpn connection? |
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| 16:23.32 | vizzy | hi, im using testing and like to know what group i need to belong to for using usb serial plugs, like from my rc battery loader or usbasp programmer plug :) |
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| 16:23.57 | vizzy | i dmesg i could see ttyS0: LSR safety check engaged! ... |
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| 16:24.13 | James0r6 | sorry this is probably a dumb question but how do i install this https://packages.debian.org/km/sid/x11/compton ? |
| 16:24.28 | James0r6 | is there a .deb file link somewhere on this page? |
| 16:24.29 | vizzy | my user is already a member of the group plugdev, but that seems not to work |
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| 16:26.07 | vizzy | i also wonder why its says ttyS0, when i plug in the dongles, i usually have ttyUSB0 etc |
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| 16:27.40 | musca | James0r3: compton is not available in wheezy. Your link points to debian unstable. |
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| 16:30.50 | musca | James0r3: let your new knowledge settle down a few days, then you might try a "simple sid backport" |
| 16:30.54 | musca | !ssb |
| 16:30.55 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 16:35.33 | editheraven | #flood Hi. Sometimes when I leave the computer when I return the PC won't come out from monitor power saving or when I boot the OS before kdm login screen the same thing is happening : the screen is all black. The video card is sending signal to the monitor but the PC is frozen (no mouse/kb etc). I suspect some fglrx module fault or xserver fault. But the logs are looking good. Where should I start to investigate this? Thanks. |
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| 16:36.42 | petn-randall | -q dpkg |
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| 16:36.58 | petn-randall | woops, ignore that. keyboard layout mistake. |
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| 16:40.34 | petn-randall | cdb2: It strongly depends on how you set up openvpn. It depends on if you tunnel ethernet frames ("TAP") or IP packets ("tun"). Even if you had tap, why would your 100 PCs do a subnet broadcast at the same time? |
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| 16:41.03 | cdb2 | tunnel if: tap and openvpn server eth0 is bridged to br0 |
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| 16:41.43 | cdb2 | and of course the remote pc would be in the same subnet as my local lan clients |
| 16:43.00 | cdb2 | i mean its a lanparty what if they are browsing pcs netbios etc |
| 16:43.32 | cdb2 | i just dont want that my upstream gets congested with broadcast traffic |
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| 16:45.10 | peetaur | I installed apache2-mpm-prefork and libapache2-mod-php5, and when restarting apache, I get the error "[crit] Apache is running a threaded MPM, but your PHP Module is not compiled to be threadsafe. You need to recompile PHP." Which makes no sense, since I'm already using mpm-prefork... what's wrong? |
| 16:45.18 | petn-randall | cdb2: You can always capture broadcast traffic to measure it. But with 10/100 MBit up/down, I hardly believe that will ever get congested. Broadcast traffic makes < 1% of the traffic on a busy network, probably even < 0.1%. |
| 16:45.51 | cdb2 | well 10gbit network? |
| 16:46.06 | cdb2 | 10 000 Mbit and 1%? :D |
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| 16:46.44 | Sbroker | re |
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| 16:48.27 | Cyis | ack... went into BIOS setup on the laptop to delete the previous Windows UEFI boot option and accidently deleted the Debian one I just created doing the install |
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| 16:51.51 | cdb2 | petn-randall if its really 1% then it would be 10Mbit oO |
| 16:52.08 | cdb2 | i think its nogo then a bridged openvpn setup |
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| 16:54.56 | evechatermarste | !tell hammad__ about selftell |
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| 16:56.43 | maxyz | peetaur: Is that part of the output of the configtest ? |
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| 16:57.59 | peetaur | maxyz: I guess... I ran /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 16:58.19 | peetaur | Action 'configtest' failed. |
| 16:58.27 | petn-randall | cdb2: You said earlier your LAN is 1Gbit/s, not 10Gbit/s. |
| 16:58.54 | cdb2 | well the backbone is 10gbit |
| 16:59.00 | cdb2 | where the openvpn server is connected |
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| 17:00.44 | maxyz | petn-randall: Ok, then your apache2 is still running your previuos mpm |
| 17:00.52 | maxyz | Ups |
| 17:00.54 | petn-randall | cdb2: Well, there's no way to know it without measuring it. If you don't have anything specifically set up, like anycast, or multicast NTP at crazy intervals, you can probably count the broadcast packages per second with one hand. |
| 17:00.57 | maxyz | petn-randall: Sorry, |
| 17:01.00 | maxyz | peetaur: ^ |
| 17:01.24 | peetaur | maxyz: I stopped apache, and even removed and reinstalled it. |
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| 17:02.59 | jdabinett | ;_; |
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| 17:07.38 | maxyz | peetaur: That's in wheezy or jessie? |
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| 17:07.44 | peetaur | maxyz: wheezy |
| 17:08.16 | jhutchins | !paste |
| 17:08.16 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 17:08.30 | jhutchins | peetaur: Could you paste dpkg -l "apache2*"? |
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| 17:09.02 | maxyz | Mmh, did apache2 actualy stop ? |
| 17:09.02 | dimitry7 | Hi Guys, I have two high speed internet links and I would like to use both of them in my debian 7 server |
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| 17:09.03 | JordiGH | What chess program can I use to play with my brother who is on Windows? |
| 17:09.20 | dimitry7 | is it possible to have two gateways setting a priority for each one of them? |
| 17:09.27 | peetaur | jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CZSiye1m |
| 17:10.11 | jhutchins | peetaur: I triggered the past factoit bacause pastebin is blocked here. |
| 17:10.19 | jhutchins | s/past/paste |
| 17:10.22 | ChrisH | tremon: Suse 13.1 with Kernel 3.11 is able to boot the System. Now I need to find a debian install media with Kerbnel 3.11 |
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| 17:12.10 | peetaur | jhutchins: http://paste.debian.net/86042/ |
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| 17:19.30 | jelly | ChrisH: eh, boot suse, debootstrap debian and steal^Wcopy the kernel bits for the time being |
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| 17:21.42 | arthurfiggis | hello :) for anyone who might be using vlc 2.1.2 from wheezy-backports...i used to use vlc to convert different formats of videos into h264/aac formatted mp4's (they play the best on the PS3 :) ), but in this version if i try to convert a video to that format, i get a video track but no audio track...and no error messages :( is there a package i might be missing, or is there a way i could... |
| 17:21.43 | arthurfiggis | ...report it as a bug maybe? |
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| 17:22.12 | peetaur | arthurfiggis: right click somewhere and see if another 'language' has the audio |
| 17:22.45 | peetaur | or 'track' or some kinda label like that |
| 17:23.38 | arthurfiggis | peetaur: hmm...good idea thanks, i'm just converting a (very small) test video now to check it out :) |
| 17:24.56 | arthurfiggis | nope, no luck...in fact the audio track option is greyed out entirely, and looking under codec information, the video doesn't even have an audio track :( |
| 17:25.23 | peetaur | okay, so probably no audio track or no decoder |
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| 17:26.51 | arthurfiggis | peetaur: that's the way it looks...although oddly enough i can actually -play- files that are encoded in that format, but if i try to convert/save my own they come out with a video track only :) very strange |
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| 17:27.26 | eugenmayer | hello. I would try to package unixODBC myself. Is there a short wallkthrough doing that? |
| 17:28.12 | peetaur | jhutchins: no good news for me? :( |
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| 17:28.30 | wootikins | I am trying to connect to an headless box with xrdp. I get the xrdp logon just fine, it connects OK but when it's time to connect to X it just crashes without any sign. How to set stuff correctly? What to check? |
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| 17:30.02 | wols | wootikins: how are you running X when it's headless? |
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| 17:30.35 | wootikins | wols, what do you mean? |
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| 17:30.57 | wols | wootikins: X has to start. how can it if you have no videocard? no monitor? |
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| 17:31.13 | wootikins | wols, as in: if you turn your monitor off, X does not stop running |
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| 17:31.28 | wols | so it's not really headless? |
| 17:32.00 | wootikins | wols, headless refers to ' no monitor' . At least, it does in my case. It does have a ' videocard' |
| 17:32.04 | wols | what you describe above looks like a xrdp server that runs fine until it needs to start or connect to X. then it crashes. so it seems to me your X has a problem |
| 17:32.36 | wootikins | wols, is there a log I could check? I see that KDM is running, sesman-xrdp is running. |
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| 17:34.34 | Sbroker | do you like my desktop loosers ? |
| 17:34.47 | Sbroker | http://i57.tinypic.com/2v9ru5t.jpg |
| 17:34.50 | jdabinett | nope |
| 17:35.03 | Sbroker | http://i61.tinypic.com/346nl8x.png |
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| 17:35.22 | Sbroker | http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2nsnv28&s=8#.Uxn_LnX5NGh |
| 17:35.34 | Sbroker | ferrari power on acer -ferrari core i3 |
| 17:35.35 | wootikins | Thats a tad reddish.. |
| 17:35.44 | wols | we only like people who can spell "losers". people who spell it with two o, are well, losers |
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| 17:36.05 | wols | not to mention it's OT here |
| 17:36.13 | Sbroker | with windows and debian and kde |
| 17:36.21 | wols | wootikins: .xsession-error* maybe |
| 17:36.36 | wootikins | wols, that' s a good tip |
| 17:36.44 | Sbroker | why OT |
| 17:37.05 | Sbroker | a kde debian ferrari theme is ot? |
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| 17:37.21 | wols | this is achannel for debian technical support. yes, showing off themes is OT |
| 17:37.48 | Sbroker | another bored... |
| 17:37.51 | Sbroker | wols, .... |
| 17:38.12 | JordiGH | I can't figure out how to play chess with my brother... xboard and eboard don't have an interface I expect. |
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| 17:38.27 | mdel | JordiGH: use chess.com |
| 17:38.43 | JordiGH | mdel: I can't figure out how to use that either. It has ads, and I can't find my brother on it, and then I got server errors. |
| 17:38.59 | wootikins | wols, shamingly I must admit there's a log for xrdp :) |
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| 17:39.03 | arthurfiggis | JordiGH: knights or glchess maybe? they both have pretty simple interfaces :) |
| 17:39.58 | wootikins | wols, it states : error starting X server - user Blah - pid 9590 |
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| 17:42.47 | petn-randall | Sbroker: Please stop randomly insulting the channel. It's already the second time you've did that. |
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| 17:43.28 | Sbroker | petn-randall, why is ot 3 pics of a kde debian desktop? |
| 17:43.38 | Sbroker | ?? |
| 17:44.17 | arthurfiggis | Sbroker: as other people mentioned the channel is for technical support, that isn't technical support...not sure where the confusion comes in |
| 17:44.28 | jelly | Sbroker: this is primarily a tech support channel; you can share desktop backgrounds in #debian-offtopic if you want |
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| 17:46.48 | petn-randall | Sbroker: "do you like my desktop loosers ?" <== this is clearly unnecessary insulting, and you've done it before. |
| 17:47.37 | Sbroker | it was a jocke... |
| 17:47.42 | Sbroker | joke |
| 17:47.47 | Sbroker | ¬¬ |
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| 17:48.00 | jdabinett | Sbroker: then where is his horse |
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| 17:48.36 | Sbroker | jdabinett, up to your desktop.... |
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| 17:49.08 | jdabinett | I'm sorry what? |
| 17:49.17 | jdabinett | his horse, is 'up to my desktop' |
| 17:49.31 | Sbroker | yes |
| 17:49.36 | jdabinett | I don't think it can make decisions like that on its own, mate. |
| 17:49.37 | dimitry7 | Hi Guys, I have two high speed internet links and I would like to use both of them in my debian 7 server |
| 17:49.37 | dimitry7 | is it possible to have two gateways setting a priority for each one of them? |
| 17:50.05 | dimitry7 | so that in case one fails.. the other one comes up instantly |
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| 17:50.33 | jelly | dimitry7: do you want just failover or load-balancing? |
| 17:51.12 | dimitry7 | jelly, well.... mostly: failover. But load-balancing would be great as well :) |
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| 17:51.27 | jelly | dimitry7: the canonical way to do the latter is on lartc, http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 17:51.38 | dimitry7 | perfect!!!! :D |
| 17:51.46 | dimitry7 | and the first one? |
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| 17:52.21 | jelly | can be trivially achieved with a script polling for access; I'm not going to bother |
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| 17:53.21 | dimitry7 | jelly, a script poling for access? like sending pings? |
| 17:53.34 | dimitry7 | and then changing default route when the default one is irresponsive? |
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| 17:53.40 | jelly | yes, and setting the default route accordingly |
| 17:53.59 | dimitry7 | jelly, excellent!! Thank you so much for your help! :) |
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| 17:56.21 | XXXHACKERXXX | how to hack Gmail password and username |
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| 17:56.41 | jdabinett | lmfao |
| 17:57.30 | JordiGH | Ooh, script kitties! |
| 17:57.40 | JordiGH | I hadn't seen one in *years* |
| 17:57.55 | arthurfiggis | must have the day off school :) watch out for winnukes folks |
| 17:58.15 | Sbroker | ohh with fear by the hackerrrr |
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| 17:58.22 | Sbroker | :S |
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| 18:00.00 | Brigo | dimitry7, you can try this too: http://linux-on-a-server.com/ethernet-nic-bonding/ |
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| 18:03.52 | wootikins | ok. It seems I kinda removed kde from my system (how to check?) and now I'd like to install it again. Is there a metapackage that pulls most stuff in? |
| 18:05.05 | arthurfiggis | wootikins: well if you really want everything, kde-full would do the trick :) |
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| 18:05.53 | wootikins | I think I had that. Until I decided to install one extra kde package and all the others came on the remove list ;) |
| 18:06.33 | petn-randall | JordiGH: Are they the cuter version of script kiddies? |
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| 18:06.35 | wootikins | arthurfiggis, then again, I might not want the fancy kde stuff as I will be using KDE over RDP |
| 18:06.41 | arthurfiggis | wootikins: yeah, that does tend to happen to the best of us from time to time ;) that's why i like aptitude, when you're dealing with dependency issues it gives you a lot of good tips on how to get around them without breaking anything |
| 18:07.04 | petn-randall | dimitry7: shorewall can take away some of the work in automating the load balancing for you. They have fairly good docs for that. |
| 18:07.17 | wootikins | arthurfiggis, sounds like it's time for to start using aptitude too then |
| 18:07.44 | arthurfiggis | wootikins: aha...well in that case you'd probably want kde-plasma-desktop, it's a meta-package that pulls in the minimal amount of stuff you need to run a kde desktop :) at least that's what aptitude show says |
| 18:08.27 | wootikins | arthurfiggis, let's give it a try. Just as long as it will install enough stuff to connect to over RDP, I am content. |
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| 18:09.16 | JordiGH | petn-randall: They're an alternate spelling of script kiddies. They feature prominently in OpenBSD songs! http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#33 |
| 18:09.17 | arthurfiggis | wootikins: oh, i'd say it'd be fine for that...the most the minimal install comes with is a few basic system utilities, and since that includes the terminal you can get everything installed you need remotely :) |
| 18:09.18 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, okay Petn, I'll take a look at shore wall, thank you for the advice :) |
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| 18:13.14 | Sagar | Hello, how can i disallow other users on my debian vps not to list files and directories outside there /home/user/ dir and also they cannot read any file till the time they have sudo or i allow them some folders using chown |
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| 18:13.55 | ompaul | Sagar: if that was the way the world worked you wouldn't be able to run any commands at all |
| 18:14.19 | ompaul | Sagar: if you want to lock them down an amount you could use a chroot environment |
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| 18:14.54 | Sagar | ompaul: i am new to debian, so guide me to some docs or something? |
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| 18:15.29 | ompaul | Sagar: explain what you are doing letting users onto your vps |
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| 18:16.01 | Sagar | i am giving them ssh access as well as sftp access to run there websites and softwares. |
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| 18:16.25 | ompaul | Sagar: so then they need to run those software programs, in doing so they need access to them |
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| 18:16.46 | Sagar | All i want that they should be limited to their /home/user dirs. Also i have allowed them to just add a symlink "ln -s" from /var/www/userfolder/ so that they can make changes to their websites. |
| 18:17.17 | Sagar | if they try to visit /home/anotheruser or something or /var/www/otheruser or anything. they would get a permission denied error or something |
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| 18:19.26 | buu | Sagar: Thats just basic user permission |
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| 18:19.40 | buu | Sagar: Set every file you don't want them to read to something like 600 |
| 18:19.45 | buu | Or 660 rather |
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| 18:20.03 | ompaul | 700 for the home directories would be okay |
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| 18:21.25 | cybrNaut | preseed question-- does "mkisofs" create the kind of ISO that can be simply dd'd to a USB stick? (the manual says burn the CD as a final step, so it's unclear whether that's a limitation) |
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| 18:22.04 | sephioh | hi, how can i find out who is responsible for a debian mirror? |
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| 18:22.50 | realmen | hi |
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| 18:24.35 | sephioh | realmen, hi |
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| 18:24.41 | wootikins | How do I check whether X can startup properly without a monitor? Reason: i am trying to start an XRDP session but it states in the log that "another Xserver is already active on display 10" |
| 18:25.24 | ompaul | cybrNaut: it is not a limitation you can cat that iso to a usb stick if you have done it right - and it is bootable fun ahead |
| 18:25.25 | wootikins | I've googled about this, and apparently there is something wrong with the x server, but probably not that another server is running. |
| 18:25.45 | cybrNaut | ompaul: thanks! |
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| 18:26.45 | ompaul | sephioh: https://www.debian.org/mirror/ |
| 18:26.46 | sephioh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:27.03 | sephioh | ompaul, sorry repeat message |
| 18:27.16 | ompaul | sephioh: why it is three lines back |
| 18:27.48 | ompaul | wootikins: it can be run without a monitor - xdmcp is one example |
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| 18:28.14 | ompaul | wootikins: if it is not running you really should ps auwx | less and look for it |
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| 18:28.45 | ompaul | wootikins: btw you don't X running for the server to serve it |
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| 18:28.55 | wootikins | ompaul, there is a /usr/bin/X running |
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| 18:29.14 | ompaul | wootikins: so you got some other problem ut I don't know XRDP so I'm no use to you |
| 18:29.38 | wootikins | I am going to reinstall xserver-xorg |
| 18:29.54 | ompaul | wootikins: most likely won't serve you well |
| 18:29.55 | wootikins | There's something fishy going on there :) |
| 18:30.20 | wootikins | ompaul, well, I've been dabbling with installing and removing packages.. it might just.. |
| 18:30.23 | ompaul | netstat -a woujld be better |
| 18:30.42 | ompaul | wootikins: do taskself and install the meta package it will drag everything needed |
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| 18:32.21 | erry | . |
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| 18:33.18 | basiclaser | is there a tutorial specific to installing android SDK and Eclipse IDE for purpose of android development specifically on linux? |
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| 18:36.16 | jhutchins | basiclaser: I don't think we have on from Debian. |
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| 18:37.36 | jhutchins | basiclaser: http://www.android.com/ #android on irc.freenode.net http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.htm |
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| 18:52.45 | arthurfiggis | this is just a general question but as i'm running it under debian i'm hoping that it'll be debian related :) i'm considering running a web server, but i'd like to keep it separate from my own, personal files as possible...would it be more advisable to use something like e.g. virtualbox, or can you use debootstrap to create a secure environment? |
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| 18:56.55 | OpenTokix | arthurfiggis: do a VM |
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| 18:58.21 | bogdomania | hi guys.. quick one.. usb stick mounted as read-only.. i know it sounds noobish.. but i tried severals fixes i found on forums(debianmint/ubuntu) and none of them worked.. as normal user or root.. any pointers,please? bottom line, i need to erase a usb stick (containing the files of a linux distro) in order to make a bootable windows usb drive. |
| 18:58.53 | ompaul | bogdomania: a windows box would format it for you no bother |
| 18:59.18 | bogdomania | uhm.. i dont have a windows machine... i have only one pc, running debian atm. |
| 18:59.19 | ompaul | cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdWHATEVER not sdb1 but the actual b or whatever |
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| 18:59.41 | ompaul | bogdomania: then format it have fun with that |
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| 19:10.15 | wols | ompaul: one needs to partition it first, then create filesystem(s) |
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| 19:11.12 | ompaul | wols: true, but I think this was more about how to destroy the exist partition |
| 19:11.28 | ompaul | with whatever boot mangler was in place |
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| 19:15.51 | OpenTokix | dd is a better tool |
| 19:15.53 | jhutchins | Some drives set a read-only parameter in what is essentially the controller portion of the hardware. Sometimes that can be fixed with hdparm, sometimes it can't. |
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| 19:16.14 | jhutchins | If he was after an installer, simply writing the image to the drive would be suficient. |
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| 19:16.52 | ompaul | OpenTokix: and the difference between dd and cat for the resulting usb key? ;-) |
| 19:16.54 | jhutchins | OpenTokix: When we first started doing this cat was the preferred command for some reason. |
| 19:17.13 | ompaul | it is essentially the same result :) |
| 19:17.17 | jhutchins | OpenTokix: It could just be because people are tempted to mess with the many options available for dd. |
| 19:17.24 | OpenTokix | options <3 |
| 19:17.44 | ompaul | OpenTokix: if you know dd exists you shouldn't be asking |
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| 19:18.13 | OpenTokix | What did I ask? |
| 19:18.20 | jhutchins | It may have been noobish naievete, but when I started out I thought you always had to specify all the parameters for a dd command. I don't know if it did sensible defaults back then or not. |
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| 19:18.50 | ompaul | OpenTokix: nothing, you made a statement I got totally terrified and defended my choice (chuckle please - it's not too serious) |
| 19:19.23 | jhutchins | It's Friday! |
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| 19:19.54 | OpenTokix | I just like dd, and I mess around with the options - and to be honest, I didnt know you could use cat for that thing =) |
| 19:20.07 | ompaul | OpenTokix: let's all go to the pub ;-) |
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| 19:21.19 | OpenTokix | Yeah, would be awesome - but you would get all upset with me there to. - since I dont drink alcohol ;) |
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| 19:21.34 | ompaul | OpenTokix: na, you can be the driver :) |
| 19:22.05 | OpenTokix | I usually is =) |
| 19:22.08 | OpenTokix | *am |
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| 19:30.00 | jhutchins | Can it be The White Hart in Penton Mewsey? |
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| 19:48.59 | earthian | Hello, I am trying to configure NSS/PAM LDAP user authentication on the system, however the users are not being found.. so for example command getent passwd does not return the users from ldap directory. ldapsearch -x returns all users and if I do ldapsearch -x uid=username the result is empty - no username is returned... what could be the problem? ideas? directions? |
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| 19:49.31 | earthian | Also this same problem, I think, is blocking me from using Postfix with LDAP... users are not found |
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| 19:52.00 | ompaul | earthian: so you think the problem is ldap |
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| 19:52.18 | earthian | definitely yes |
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| 19:52.39 | ompaul | have you defined the uid stuff correctly |
| 19:52.46 | ompaul | look at your ldiff file |
| 19:53.37 | earthian | I have copied the ldap directory from the previous server so I think something is messed up. |
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| 19:53.41 | earthian | which ldiff? |
| 19:54.03 | earthian | the one I used to import the database or config ldiff? |
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| 19:54.17 | ompaul | the current one that is the one you are searching against is it not |
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| 19:59.30 | earthian | ompaul, a part of it looks like this when returned by ldapsearch -x: http://pastebin.com/LgRq589x |
| 19:59.43 | earthian | only the password is not shown due to ACL.. |
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| 20:01.34 | ompaul | earthian: does this give you anything worth while export-ldif |
| 20:02.33 | earthian | I am sorry, what do you mean? |
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| 20:03.37 | earthian | I suspect that the problem might lie with indexes.. |
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| 20:04.17 | ompaul | earthian: have a look at this maybe it will guide you https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=%2Frzahy%2Frzahyexp-pi.htm |
| 20:04.27 | earthian | Thank you!! |
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| 20:12.25 | earthian | No... that source does not give much info on how to debug my directory... |
| 20:12.39 | earthian | how to find what is the problem.. |
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| 20:23.13 | UserError | How the hell is gnome on 3.8 in unstable |
| 20:23.47 | JordiGH | Is that too new or too old? |
| 20:23.49 | ompaul | cos it's unstable |
| 20:24.09 | UserError | old |
| 20:24.43 | JordiGH | You want a newer version with fewer features? |
| 20:24.47 | UserError | https://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2013-May/msg00004.html |
| 20:24.55 | UserError | That is how old |
| 20:25.02 | JordiGH | That's not too bad. |
| 20:25.11 | JordiGH | That's almost a year of extra features. |
| 20:25.14 | ompaul | UserError: and you have compiled 3.10 and prepared all the transitions? |
| 20:25.17 | UserError | ... they are on 3.12 now |
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| 20:25.29 | UserError | yes, works great, compiled what i needed |
| 20:25.31 | JordiGH | Wasn't Hocevar packaging Gnome? |
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| 20:26.30 | stmiller | A comment on reddit said they are considering skipping gnome 3.10 and going straight to 3.12 http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=4311.0 |
| 20:26.44 | ompaul | that is them not debian |
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| 20:27.13 | UserError | weird.... because ubuntu already has 3.10 and 3.12 |
| 20:27.19 | UserError | shocker |
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| 20:27.23 | ompaul | awww |
| 20:27.36 | JordiGH | UserError: Ubuntu is not Debian, and they are also not using systemd until recently. |
| 20:27.44 | JordiGH | Well, I don't know if Ubuntu is going to be using systemd. |
| 20:27.58 | ompaul | JordiGH: according to their mark they will |
| 20:28.05 | JordiGH | UserError: But really, the older the Gnome, the better. Gnome is the only software that grows by removing features instead of adding them. |
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| 20:28.18 | centrx | The less Gnome the better |
| 20:28.18 | JordiGH | ompaul: Yeah, I just don't know how soon they're gonna move to systemd. |
| 20:28.32 | UserError | ironically, 3.10 shrinks |
| 20:28.34 | UserError | from 3.8 |
| 20:28.34 | ompaul | goes back to his kde settings :) |
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| 20:28.51 | JordiGH | UserError: Nothing ironic about that, as time advances, Gnome becomes less useful. |
| 20:28.59 | JordiGH | It's been like this for a long time. |
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| 20:29.06 | UserError | No.... they removed a ton of testing tools that no-one used for mutter |
| 20:29.07 | ompaul | basically you have the tools visit #debian-mentors and help get it in there if you are interesting |
| 20:29.28 | ompaul | s/interesting/interested |
| 20:29.33 | JordiGH | UserError: So that's the kind of feature that they removed? Good to know. What other things have they removed for 3.12 ? |
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| 20:30.07 | ompaul | this is not the place for a drive by bug reporting cos we don't backend onto bugs.d.o |
| 20:30.10 | UserError | 3.12 no idea. Mutter had alot of extra stuff that no-one needed or wanted and wasn't even up to date. |
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| 20:30.37 | UserError | https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/?h=gnome-3-10&id=8c1c77482db263a7dcc04051a9694f30a852b702 |
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| 20:31.02 | ompaul | and #debian-mentors might be on irc.oftc if you really care about it and want to do something but don't you dare come here with a sense of entitlement without willingness to work on it |
| 20:31.04 | ompaul | ;-) |
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| 20:32.06 | JordiGH | UserError: They always justify removing functionality by saying that no one needed it. True, probably nobody will need Gnome anymore as we all find better things to use that actually have some functionality remaining. |
| 20:32.14 | jhutchins | One of these days I'll have to look at KDE again, but man! Three different database processes trying to index my address book, and not information on how to fix it if one of them crashes! |
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| 20:32.55 | jhutchins | (Which, given that there were ~3,000 corrupt entries, it did.) |
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| 20:33.02 | Bsims | I'm pretty much liking xfce with some occasional kde apps |
| 20:33.03 | ompaul | jhutchins: you should have looked at it yesterday ;-) |
| 20:33.11 | jhutchins | Bsims: Yeah, back to basics. |
| 20:33.31 | Bsims | heck it can even be made to look slick with a little work |
| 20:33.50 | ompaul | Bsims: shh all the kool kids will want it |
| 20:33.53 | jhutchins | I don't care much how it looks these days, I care that it works. |
| 20:33.53 | JordiGH | I'm really sad that compiz has died. :-( |
| 20:34.07 | JordiGH | I really enjoyed managed my windows with it. |
| 20:34.07 | jhutchins | JIGGLY WINDOWS!!! |
| 20:34.07 | UserError | JordiGH, in this case, they are right |
| 20:34.16 | UserError | Those aren't features they removed this time |
| 20:34.38 | UserError | they are testing apps build for older platforms that don't even work and are useless ever since Mutter got the ability to draw a desktop |
| 20:34.54 | JordiGH | UserError: They're only right that nobody is using it because they're driving all of their users away. |
| 20:34.59 | UserError | They added a feature to mutter and removed an example app because it wasn't needed anymore |
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| 20:35.13 | UserError | I don't think you understand.... Wayland is the reason they removed it |
| 20:35.24 | UserError | because it now has that feature... |
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| 20:35.42 | UserError | Credit where it is due. |
| 20:35.58 | Bsims | heh I came up with a bit of snark about ubuntu that applies to gnome in my opinion "It's a pre-alpha developer version. "So ubuntu is removing the working version and making this the default?" |
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| 20:36.25 | UserError | The demo apps weren't used Bsims, they were extra for platform dev and testing , packaged in the base meta |
| 20:36.28 | jhutchins | UserError: I think you've missed the fact that someone might dislike Gnome's philosophy and policy so much they really don't care about the details of how it's going to hell in a handbasket. |
| 20:36.40 | UserError | That's fine, but in this case they did one small thing right |
| 20:37.19 | UserError | Actually, against their own philosophy |
| 20:37.22 | jhutchins | UserError: The ultimate gnome will have one icon in the middle of the screen, and when you click on it it will say "NO!". |
| 20:37.44 | ompaul | checks the sunday factoid in public |
| 20:37.45 | ompaul | !sunday |
| 20:37.46 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 20:37.54 | ompaul | pretends it is not Friday |
| 20:38.05 | UserError | I'm not trolling :( |
| 20:38.47 | JordiGH | jhutchins: hahaahah |
| 20:38.51 | ompaul | did anyone say you were? |
| 20:39.00 | ompaul | steps back in faux horror |
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| 20:41.46 | yareckon | hi folks, I'm having a terrible time telling debian to let me "start over" on a server with badly damaged mysql-server |
| 20:42.14 | yareckon | at this point I want to just remove everything, but I can't seem to get debian to install thinks like a proper /etc/mysql folder |
| 20:42.26 | jelly-home | !bat |
| 20:42.27 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 20:42.51 | jelly-home | yareckon: did you manually wipe files from /etc/mysql by any chance? |
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| 20:43.24 | yareckon | yup, I did and /var/lib/mysql and various other places revealed by dpkg -L |
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| 20:43.40 | totte | Python 3.2 is currently available in Wheezy, and 3.3 is in Jessie... How do releases work? Do packages in the current testing move to the current stable at some point, or does the current testing simply become the new stable? |
| 20:43.41 | yareckon | but only after apt-get remove --purge didn't seem to |
| 20:44.11 | UserError | 3.2 makes sense to be in stable |
| 20:44.15 | yareckon | install and remove both go through fine now, but things are missing |
| 20:44.25 | UserError | after all, most python related things are just getting 3.2 support (PyPy) |
| 20:44.44 | yareckon | for instance in the new /etc/mysql/ folder, there is just a debian.cnf created |
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| 20:44.59 | yareckon | not the whole skeleton... and the server setup never runs after install |
| 20:45.18 | yareckon | eventhough dpkg doesn't complain or exit with non-zero |
| 20:45.24 | totte | I'm sure there are valid reasons for 3.2 to be in stable rather than 3.3, but I'm wondering if 3.3 will be available as an update at some point for Wheezy or if it will require installing Jessie? |
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| 20:45.51 | totte | I'm reading the FAQ but all the codenames got me a bit confused. |
| 20:46.11 | centrx | totte, Stable packages are updated only for security updates and critical data integrity bugs. |
| 20:46.28 | centrx | In general |
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| 20:46.59 | yareckon | !localized errors |
| 20:46.59 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 20:47.31 | LonelyDanbo | I'm having trouble trying to install Debian from USB. The installer boots, but then can't find the "CD drive". |
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| 20:47.44 | LonelyDanbo | Same problem when I tried to install OpenSUSE |
| 20:48.26 | mtn | LonelyDanbo: how did you make the usb installer? |
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| 20:48.50 | LonelyDanbo | with unetbootin-linux-585 and debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst |
| 20:49.01 | ompaul | !unetbootin |
| 20:49.02 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 20:49.09 | mtn | LonelyDanbo: yep, that causes problems. use dd or cp, like the instructions tell you |
| 20:49.53 | sheap | dd if=/path/to/debian.iso of=/path/to/usb (I use it with the format /dev/sd[x]) |
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| 20:50.33 | LonelyDanbo | alright, I'll see if I can do that. |
| 20:50.37 | LonelyDanbo | thanks. |
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| 20:53.48 | deviantp | very general linux question about permissions. 666 should allow any user read and write access to a directory correct? or am I missing something pretty basic here |
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| 20:54.00 | Ritzton | do you know why when I am doing "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 2000" I got the message : iptables: No chain/target/match by that name. |
| 20:54.01 | Redz | is there a test program for opencl in the repo? |
| 20:54.22 | LonelyDanbo | I used dd to put the OpenSUSE ISO on the USB stick and it had the same problems in finding a non-existent CD drive. |
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| 20:54.57 | mtn | LonelyDanbo: you are on the debian channel, so try debian ;) |
| 20:55.05 | LonelyDanbo | true. |
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| 20:56.58 | centrx | deviantp, Directory requires executable bit, x |
| 20:57.01 | jhutchins | LonelyDanbo: Several distributions have a USB boot image that's derived from the old boot floppy and is for systems that can't boot to the CD. unetbootin may have a tendency to grab that. |
| 20:57.05 | centrx | deviantp, rwx is 7 not 6 |
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| 20:57.15 | yareckon | jelly-home, apparently giving up and starting to cry helps, cause the next apt-get purge apt-get install cycle worked and the post install stuff ran |
| 20:57.22 | yareckon | :) |
| 20:57.30 | jhutchins | LonelyDanbo: General rule is to make sure you verify the md5sum of the iso when you download it, and verify whatever you write it to as well. |
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| 20:57.54 | LonelyDanbo | BTW, can I set up encryption with the Debian installer or do I have to install it and then reinstall it from the installation? |
| 20:58.11 | jhutchins | !tell LonelyDanbo about ig |
| 20:58.12 | yareckon | LonelyDanbo, I believe you can setup right in the installer |
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| 20:58.30 | jhutchins | LonelyDanbo: See message from dpkg - all install questions answered! |
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| 21:01.02 | LonelyDanbo | do you know where I might go to ask for why my new system is running so hot on the bios menu and sitting on the install menu for Debian? |
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| 21:05.08 | peetaur | LonelyDanbo: #hardware |
| 21:05.29 | peetaur | LonelyDanbo: probably the CPU heat sink needs reseating |
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| 21:07.04 | LonelyDanbo | great. default thermal compound is crap. |
| 21:07.52 | peetaur | the difference in compound might not be huge, but if it got old and developed bubbles, then it has air in there ... an insulator |
| 21:08.24 | peetaur | with extreme overclocking, the compound might make 5 or more degrees C difference... but I doubt it would with an idle CPU |
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| 21:09.30 | LonelyDanbo | it's brand new. |
| 21:09.40 | LonelyDanbo | no overclocking. |
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| 21:18.27 | LonelyDanbo | it says to verify MD5SSUMS to use GnuPG, which apparently I already have installed but how do I run it? no such command. |
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| 21:20.00 | jifix | have anyone test debina gnu/hurd |
| 21:20.10 | jifix | debian gnu/hurd |
| 21:21.01 | jifix | ? |
| 21:21.34 | mtn | jifix: you can if you want to |
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| 21:25.17 | Ritzton | do you know why when I am doing "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 2000" I got the message : iptables: No chain/target/match by that name ? |
| 21:25.21 | LonelyDanbo | I wonder how many hours it will take me to install Debian. |
| 21:25.39 | LonelyDanbo | I wonder how many hours it will take me to figure out how to verify this md5 thingie |
| 21:25.58 | centrx | LonelyDanbo, Are you using Windows or something? |
| 21:26.10 | LonelyDanbo | no. I'm currently on CrunchBang Linux. |
| 21:26.28 | LonelyDanbo | It's a really old PC, so I put this on it. and now it's the only PC I have to use. |
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| 21:26.57 | LonelyDanbo | I mean... there's a Windows 7 PC in the house too. |
| 21:27.21 | centrx | LonelyDanbo, If you have coreutils installed, it should have an executable called md5sum (on my Debian system) |
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| 21:27.59 | fck_systemd | Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html |
| 21:28.02 | fck_systemd | FUCK SYSTEMD |
| 21:28.07 | fck_systemd | fuck lennart poettering |
| 21:28.12 | fck_systemd | he is a FAGGOT |
| 21:28.21 | mongaj | fck_systemd go back to /g/ |
| 21:28.25 | mongaj | they have something called desktop threads |
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| 21:28.30 | fck_systemd | http://i.imgur.com/9QHMtIf.png |
| 21:28.36 | fck_systemd | look at this BULLSHIT |
| 21:28.36 | centrx | !ops troll |
| 21:28.38 | fck_systemd | just look at that |
| 21:28.42 | fck_systemd | Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html |
| 21:28.45 | fck_systemd | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.46 | LonelyDanbo | thanks for the lead. that seems to be a command I have. |
| 21:28.46 | stmiller | !ops |
| 21:28.47 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 21:28.54 | fck_systemd | !ops anyone not pro systemd is a troll and should be banned |
| 21:28.54 | centrx | dpkg: ops troll |
| 21:28.55 | dpkg | fck_systemd: okay |
| 21:28.56 | fck_systemd | !ops anyone not pro systemd is a troll and should be banned! |
| 21:28.57 | fck_systemd | !ops anyone not pro systemd is a troll and should be banned!!!! |
| 21:28.58 | dpkg | ...but ops anyone not pro systemd is already something else... |
| 21:28.59 | centrx | dpkg: Why you ignore me |
| 21:29.01 | fck_systemd | !ops anyone not pro systemd is a troll and should be banned!!!!!!! |
| 21:29.01 | dpkg | ...but ops anyone not pro systemd is already something else... |
| 21:29.06 | fck_systemd | Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html |
| 21:29.15 | fck_systemd | FUCK SYSTEM FAGGOT POETTERING D |
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| 21:29.21 | fck_systemd | Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html |
| 21:29.31 | centrx | dpkg: ops troll |
| 21:29.31 | dpkg | centrx: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 21:29.37 | centrx | wtf dpkg |
| 21:29.40 | fck_systemd | fuck systemD |
| 21:29.42 | fck_systemd | Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html |
| 21:29.44 | centrx | dpkg: bot |
| 21:29.45 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 21:29.52 | ompaul | !ops please see fck_systemd thanks |
| 21:29.56 | fck_systemd | debian-women is the future of debian |
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| 21:30.02 | fck_systemd | FUCK SYSTEMD |
| 21:30.06 | ompaul | clever like a foo |
| 21:30.10 | fck_systemd | Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html |
| 21:30.16 | fck_systemd | Vote for init system choice. |
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| 21:30.33 | fck_systemd | Lennart Poettering and his software, a simple explaination (cartoon): |
| 21:30.34 | fck_systemd | archive.rebeccablacktech.com/boards/g/img/0406/33/1393881561558.png |
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| 21:30.35 | mongaj | times-a changin' |
| 21:30.41 | fck_systemd | lennart is a faggot |
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| 21:31.06 | fck_systemd | many debian devs are debian-woman supplicating faggots too |
| 21:31.20 | fck_systemd | fucking worthless feminist cunts |
| 21:31.27 | fck_systemd | Vote agaist systemd, Please Second this proposal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00000.html |
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| 21:32.59 | LonelyDanbo | installation using dd still produced the same results. It can't find the (non-existent) CD. (It's installing from USB) |
| 21:33.12 | LonelyDanbo | What do I do? |
| 21:33.28 | centrx | dpkg: bad bot |
| 21:33.28 | dpkg | :( |
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| 21:38.02 | LonelyDanbo | cancel that question. I gotta go out. I'll ask later. |
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| 21:42.16 | pederindi | Hi, I have to migrate my personal computer (from debian to debian). I'm rsyncing /home and /etc and I will store: dpkg --get-selections something more interesting? |
| 21:44.08 | centrx | pederindi, Sounds risky/unnecessary copying the same configuration from /etc/ on a new computer |
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| 21:45.37 | pederindi | centrx: that's true. What I know that I need is the wifi passwords stored. But the change in xorg.conf can give me problems for example... |
| 21:45.53 | centrx | pederindi, xorg.conf is generally not used anymore? |
| 21:46.11 | centrx | pederindi, Are you changing versions of Debian too? |
| 21:46.31 | pederindi | from 7.4 to 7.4 |
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| 22:03.15 | Ritzton | modprobe ipt_REDIRECT : libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-042stab084.14/modules.dep.bin' |
| 22:03.20 | Ritzton | why ??? |
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| 22:07.33 | horsik_ | hi guys |
| 22:07.39 | DrDamnit | I am working on setting up tinc-vpn, and have the VPN part working fine (connections accepted) but I can't route traffic becuase ifconfig doesn't have a vpn virtual device. How would I add one? (/dev/net/tun exists, btw). |
| 22:08.14 | horsik_ | i just realized i had a typo in apt.conf and probably installed a lot of recommended packages |
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| 22:08.26 | horsik_ | i don't want those, how could i list them? |
| 22:08.55 | centrx | horsik_, deborphan might help |
| 22:09.25 | centrx | horsik_, apt-get autoremove possibly, not sure if that checks the configuration for Install-Recommends |
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| 22:12.53 | DrDamnit | created eth0:0 with ifconfig. How do I delete it? |
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| 22:20.44 | earthian | Hi, Is there a way in Debian to convert a schema file under /etc/ldap/schemas/ into ldif so that it would be possible to import with slapadd? |
| 22:21.21 | earthian | or do I need to do the dirty way in /tmp with slaptest -f? |
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| 22:24.18 | horsik_ | centrx: deborphan is foolish |
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| 22:25.03 | centrx | horsik_, Why? |
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| 22:25.26 | horsik_ | i've installed it once and removed after it told me grub2 is needless |
| 22:25.45 | centrx | Doesn't do that on mine |
| 22:26.16 | centrx | horsik_, It does require you to use your judgement |
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| 22:27.19 | centrx | horsik_, It is not telling you what packages are needless, it is telling you what packages are not depended upon by other packages. |
| 22:27.26 | horsik_ | also according to it all faked packages generated by equivs are needless too |
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| 22:32.20 | linuxator | how to get debconf? |
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| 22:35.25 | Brigo | linuxator, installing debian? |
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| 22:36.20 | linuxator | Brigo, Debuan is already installed |
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| 22:38.52 | centrx | dpkg: tell linuxator about smart questions |
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| 22:39.34 | Brigo | linuxator, so apt-get install debconf |
| 22:40.12 | jonatan | Hey, I noticed cppcheck is leaving (or has already left) testing: http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/cppcheck.html -- Is there anything I can do to fix this? I would like to see it in Testing :) |
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| 22:41.37 | linuxator | Brigo, ok,thanx a lot |
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| 22:42.22 | Brigo | linuxator, np |
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| 23:03.29 | lapache | Hello, i don't have all unicode character set, is there a package that i missed ? |
| 23:05.39 | horsik_ | lapache: what you mean you don't have unicode characters in the terminal |
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| 23:07.09 | lapache | yes the u+26f5 for example is displayed as a square with the code inside (i use monospace font) |
| 23:07.48 | dondelelcaro | lapache: that's mainly a matter of font coverage |
| 23:07.56 | horsik_ | tty or emulator? |
| 23:08.29 | dondelelcaro | lapache: presumably unifont in a terminal emulator will help you if the terminal falls back to unifont |
| 23:08.48 | dondelelcaro | (and you pretty much want unifont anyway) |
| 23:09.04 | lapache | horsik_: through gnome-term |
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| 23:09.48 | lapache | i installed unifont and set gnome font to unifont but same issue |
| 23:09.58 | horsik_ | have you set correct locale |
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| 23:10.50 | lapache | yes utf8, whats package should i reinstall ? ttf-unifont ? |
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| 23:12.05 | horsik_ | lapache: please verify it typing locale into the terminal |
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| 23:12.39 | lapache | horsik_: LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.UTF-8" |
| 23:14.01 | folial | hello!! what if qjackctl complains about "Connection timed out", "Driver is not running", "Cannot create new client"??? |
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| 23:17.22 | horsik_ | lapache: try with fonts-dejavu-core ok |
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| 23:20.26 | pablognu | Hi all |
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| 23:20.32 | pablognu | i have a problem with a script |
| 23:20.42 | pablognu | if execute it has launcher start |
| 23:20.50 | pablognu | the script works well |
| 23:20.59 | pablognu | if i execute has restart |
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| 23:21.15 | pablognu | the function start leave in the middle |
| 23:22.09 | lapache | horsik_: ok after ttf-unifont install, fonts-dejavu-core doesn't worked for me |
| 23:23.03 | horsik_ | lapache: gnome-terminal have some options for fonts, try changing the font there |
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| 23:24.36 | horsik_ | eventually just launch uxterm and check if you can see utf characters |
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