| 00:02.06 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 00:02.12 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) |
| 00:02.14 | *** join/#debian felco (felco@177.33.19.88) |
| 00:02.14 | *** join/#debian felco (felco@unaffiliated/felco) |
| 00:02.34 | *** join/#debian AngelDeath (~angeldeat@201.210.1.210) |
| 00:04.53 | dutchfish | Ritzton, take a pake inside the code, as far as it goes, its a fix (not tested it myself) https://github.com/hingstarne/puppet-nginx/commit/0a71caec517d66550d8b43113d3051d8b0c56124 |
| 00:05.05 | *** join/#debian chattr (~regnad_kc@unaffiliated/chattr) |
| 00:05.39 | *** join/#debian winterss (~wint@c-98-229-151-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 00:06.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1348] by debhelper |
| 00:06.47 | *** join/#debian Juzzika (~Qman@149.154.218.10) |
| 00:07.04 | dutchfish | Ritzton, its based on this master https://github.com/hingstarne/puppet-nginx/commit/8cdb67786b61a72b7985369d76c59a788211e032 |
| 00:08.39 | *** join/#debian gnoid (~gnoid@185.3.35.53) |
| 00:08.53 | *** join/#debian kunwon1 (~kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) |
| 00:08.58 | *** join/#debian nihilista (~nihilista@141-136-208-113.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 00:09.43 | Ritzton | dutchfish> well I am not using puppet-nginx, I am just trying to install nginx on debian wheezy :-/ |
| 00:10.39 | *** join/#debian YamakasY (~yamakasy@g9179.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 00:10.43 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 00:10.50 | dutchfish | Ritzton, oh, that fix is not for current wheezy, installing nginx from the repos is rather trivial |
| 00:11.42 | Ritzton | dutchfish> well yes it is supposed to be... |
| 00:11.45 | *** join/#debian lazers (~lasers@unaffiliated/lasers) |
| 00:11.55 | *** join/#debian namyzarc (~namyzarc@2601:1:1700:641:7184:7651:9b27:eca2) |
| 00:12.25 | Ritzton | I uninstalled nginx 1.2 |
| 00:12.35 | Ritzton | then I added that : deb http://nginx.org/packages/debian/ wheezy nginx |
| 00:12.35 | Ritzton | deb-src http://nginx.org/packages/debian/ wheezy nginx |
| 00:13.20 | Ritzton | then I tried to install the 1.4 version and now : dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nginx_1.4.6-1~wheezy_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/init.d/nginx', which is also in package nginx-common 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2 |
| 00:13.37 | *** join/#debian alanjf (~ajf@unaffiliated/alanjf) |
| 00:13.47 | dutchfish | Ritzton, you cant install 1.4 as it is in wheezy (dependecies) |
| 00:14.04 | *** join/#debian rhizome (~rhizome@50-0-193-208.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 00:14.14 | rhizome | nautilus seems to hang on opening directories |
| 00:14.51 | Ritzton | dutchfish> really so I cannot do websocket proxy on debian wheezy ?! I need nginx >= 1.3.13 for it |
| 00:14.57 | dutchfish | Ritzton, also https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2013/08/msg00001.html |
| 00:14.59 | Ritzton | debian is driving me crazy |
| 00:15.34 | *** join/#debian Dry_Lips (cuneiform@2a00:d880:3:1::2cb4:eba8) |
| 00:15.34 | *** join/#debian Dry_Lips (cuneiform@unaffiliated/dry-lips/x-3531376) |
| 00:15.35 | *** join/#debian __FBi (B@dont.uwantmy.info) |
| 00:15.35 | *** join/#debian syn_ (syn@lost.insidethefire.org) |
| 00:15.37 | *** join/#debian d3lxa (~d3lxa@vneko.ch) |
| 00:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1340] by debhelper |
| 00:16.01 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 00:16.10 | Ritzton | dutchfish> this message was last august ? |
| 00:16.12 | alanjf | Can someone please clarify if it's ok to run a 64-bit/X86_64 (AMD64) Linux distro (such as Wheezy) on a 32-bit CPU (such as this Dual Core Duo I have) ? Is it true that it will install and run, but just that the 64-bit optimizations will be useless? |
| 00:16.28 | *** join/#debian FaV1r3s (FaV1r3s@2a00:d880:3:1::a56:be49) |
| 00:18.20 | *** join/#debian RaphaelT (~RaphaelT@mx.raphaelt.fr) |
| 00:18.33 | *** join/#debian sbach (~sbach@sbach.fr) |
| 00:19.33 | dutchfish | Ritzton, there you go: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/nginx |
| 00:19.46 | dutchfish | Ritzton, it seams to be done |
| 00:20.02 | dutchfish | .tell Ritzton about bpo |
| 00:20.14 | dutchfish | !tell Ritzton about bpo |
| 00:20.24 | *** join/#debian number34 (~blackone@f054054029.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 00:21.27 | Ritzton | which repo do I have to add to source.list ? |
| 00:22.20 | dutchfish | Ritzton, add the backports repo (bpo) to /etc/apt/sources.list as explained by the bot |
| 00:23.25 | dutchfish | Ritzton, http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 00:24.17 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@198.151.130.211) |
| 00:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1334] by debhelper |
| 00:27.01 | earthian | right... so after 5 days of fighting windmills..that is trying to clone my ldap directory from an old squeeze server to a new wheezy server, I gave up and started recreating the directory manually by hand from scratch remembering what all those schemas there do and what they dont... so far this was the only successful way to do the "migration". I think somebody should document this with a sentence "Do not try to move stuff from one place to anot |
| 00:27.01 | earthian | her. Better rewrite everything by hand because that is the only way"... :( oh well. |
| 00:27.14 | *** join/#debian NeuhNeuh (~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69) |
| 00:27.30 | *** join/#debian dtcrshr (~datacrush@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 00:28.32 | earthian | now need to get mail and web services working and I am good to swap the machines in my garage ;) |
| 00:28.57 | *** join/#debian ariscop (~Phase4@icookc.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 00:28.59 | *** join/#debian linux4life798 (~Icedove@75-149-23-73-Pennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 00:31.53 | *** join/#debian LonelyDanbo (~Danbo@ts1-205.wnpg.interhop.net) |
| 00:32.17 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 00:32.47 | *** join/#debian cjsarette (~cjsarette@cjsarette.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 00:32.47 | *** join/#debian prophetic (~prophetic@46.148.30.111) |
| 00:33.14 | *** join/#debian gnugnu8 (~gnugnu8@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 00:33.31 | *** join/#debian alusion (~Alu@pool-173-79-17-44.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:34.18 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 00:34.26 | dutchfish | alanjf, in short, don't. The long answer: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
| 00:34.31 | *** join/#debian nihilista (~nihilista@141-136-208-113.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 00:34.38 | *** join/#debian flipsidecreation (~flipsidec@d149-67-68-245.col.wideopenwest.com) |
| 00:34.45 | LonelyDanbo | How long does it take to learn how to install Debian? |
| 00:34.54 | dutchfish | alanjf, running 32bit on a 64bit is done at many occasions |
| 00:35.05 | Ritzton | dutchfish> thank you ! it has solved my problem using this repo ! |
| 00:35.16 | *** join/#debian oculus (~oculus@gateway/tor-sasl/oculus) |
| 00:35.23 | dutchfish | Ritzton, yw :) |
| 00:36.10 | dutchfish | LonelyDanbo, long, but for the ones that persist in learning the steep curve, not that long |
| 00:36.31 | LonelyDanbo | how many hours? |
| 00:36.52 | *** join/#debian zenojis (~quassel@2604:3400:dc1:45:216:3eff:fe76:3263) |
| 00:37.35 | dutchfish | LonelyDanbo, more like months, not actually a base install, but to get around, read the wiki as a starter and do some LIP exam stuff as a warm up. https://wiki.debian.org |
| 00:37.50 | dutchfish | s/LIP/LPI |
| 00:37.59 | LonelyDanbo | ... holy crap. |
| 00:38.21 | dutchfish | LonelyDanbo, it depends on what you actually want |
| 00:38.35 | *** join/#debian gensgad (~gensgad__@unaffiliated/gensgad) |
| 00:38.35 | halothe23 | Anyone got any suggestion on how to handle server with cpu0 being overloaded by SOFTIRQ? |
| 00:38.52 | dutchfish | LonelyDanbo, a server install is another cup of tea then a base setup |
| 00:39.34 | LonelyDanbo | I want to browser internet with video streaming... and eventually get a 3D modelling app running... and games in WINE. |
| 00:39.36 | *** join/#debian basiclaser (Elite7488@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-axcpdivmelhmlten) |
| 00:39.44 | dutchfish | halothe23, that is more a kernel configuration issue, delve into shedular and governer |
| 00:39.52 | *** join/#debian Lars_G_ (~Lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) |
| 00:39.55 | Lars_G_ | Hello. |
| 00:40.04 | *** join/#debian gnugnu9 (~gnugnu9@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 00:40.31 | LonelyDanbo | huh. I guess I bought my PC too soon. I've been working at it for two days now and it's frustrating. |
| 00:40.38 | halothe23 | Hm.. kernel... that thing I learned not to touch because of the systems never ever booting again afterwards.. dutchfish |
| 00:41.15 | Lars_G_ | I'm warily going to follow this guide http://ein-eike.de/2013/12/02/installing-steam-on-debian-wheezy-64-bit-the-easy-way/ to try and get steam to work.. it says though that to protect me against going jesee for much stuff, I should add the option "APT::Default-Release "stable";" for apt.... my worry is, I list my install repos for apt as "wheezy" not "stable". should I use "wheezy" on that option? or should I use "stable"? |
| 00:41.25 | dutchfish | halothe23, as a warm up http://zeniv.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/people/willy/willy/lca/paper.pdf |
| 00:42.00 | *** join/#debian JordanJ2 (xClone84@unaffiliated/jordanj2) |
| 00:42.07 | dutchfish | halothe23, if you have logs, or more specific questions after reading that, feel free to ask |
| 00:42.11 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 00:42.13 | themill | Lars_G_: mixing wheezy and jessie isn't a great plan |
| 00:42.33 | *** join/#debian laigualdad (~laliberta@unaffiliated/lalibertad) |
| 00:42.51 | *** part/#debian laigualdad (~laliberta@unaffiliated/lalibertad) |
| 00:42.59 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@187.107.2.128) |
| 00:43.02 | Lars_G_ | themill: In this case I only need to pull libc6:i386 from jesee, considering the system is 64 bit, the 32bit libc's impact shouldn't be TOO horrible |
| 00:43.07 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 00:43.14 | halothe23 | A solution I found was to mess with smp_affinity - seems to have done the job, however don't know how legit that is, in case of how well that solves the issue. - dutchfish |
| 00:43.20 | *** join/#debian ur725 (~ur725@nat.mtp.cmsinter.net) |
| 00:43.29 | themill | Lars_G_: you can't have different versions of the library installed for different archs |
| 00:43.34 | *** join/#debian maroloccio (~marolocci@28.Red-79-156-235.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:43.57 | Lars_G_ | themill: why not? |
| 00:44.00 | *** join/#debian martianlobster (~csims@50-73-78-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 00:44.06 | dutchfish | halothe23, yes, smp and threading affinity can sometimes affect the outcome, read that paper |
| 00:44.25 | themill | Lars_G_: because dpkg won't let you -- that's one of the things that is guaranteed by the multiarch specification |
| 00:44.45 | dutchfish | halothe23, cfs sheduling latest does handle it pretty well tho |
| 00:45.06 | halothe23 | Yep, I have no clue what you are talking about. dutchfish |
| 00:45.14 | Lars_G_ | ok |
| 00:45.25 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@71.62.245.28) |
| 00:45.31 | alanjf | Looking in http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-dvd/, do I need the two "update" ISOs or is that already included in the set-of-3 ? |
| 00:45.49 | dutchfish | halothe23, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduling_(computing) |
| 00:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1342] by debhelper |
| 00:46.37 | halothe23 | Ok, dutchfish - However will sleep now. Am a zombie at the moment. |
| 00:46.39 | *** join/#debian sidmo_ (~sidmo@p5489E62E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:47.19 | dutchfish | halothe23, have fun |
| 00:47.41 | dutchfish | themill, (as in msg people) |
| 00:48.17 | *** join/#debian lusers (~lasers@unaffiliated/lasers) |
| 00:48.22 | alanjf | Or are the "update" ISOs just for updating from 7.3 ? |
| 00:49.02 | centrx | alanjf, Presumably that is what they are for, yes. |
| 00:49.10 | centrx | alanjf, You do not need them for a new install |
| 00:49.35 | alanjf | centrx: Thanks |
| 00:49.39 | centrx | alanjf, Also if you have Internet access for the install, it may be faster to do a net install, or get only the first DVD, and install the rest from the Internet |
| 00:50.27 | *** join/#debian cyberspace- (20253@ninthfloor.org) |
| 00:50.47 | alanjf | centrx: Thanks, but what difference does it make if the installer downloads it vs if I wget all three? Or does it only download what's needed/chosen ? |
| 00:51.14 | centrx | alanjf, Right |
| 00:51.17 | alanjf | Does it just pull deb packages from the repo? |
| 00:51.25 | centrx | alanjf, The ISOs contain a lot of software you will never use |
| 00:51.28 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 00:51.48 | centrx | alanjf, Yes |
| 00:51.56 | *** join/#debian Slythen (~Slythen@216-67-117-125-rb3.fai.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net) |
| 00:51.59 | centrx | alanjf, That is what you will likely want to switch over to after install anyway. |
| 00:52.09 | alanjf | Ah, so that could mean many things will be more up to date from the get go? |
| 00:52.33 | *** part/#debian Lars_G_ (~Lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) |
| 00:52.33 | *** join/#debian jetho (~jens@186.193.201.24) |
| 00:52.56 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@220.233.45.142) |
| 00:53.00 | centrx | alanjf, There aren't many updates to the stable release since 7.4, so that is not so significant |
| 00:53.34 | *** join/#debian treaki__ (065291e2ff@p4FF4A912.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:53.35 | alanjf | I mean of deb packages |
| 00:54.40 | centrx | alanjf, 7.4 was released on Feb 8. There have not many updates to packages since then. |
| 00:54.50 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@host86-156-59-69.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 00:55.00 | centrx | alanjf, But in general, yes, I think that is correct |
| 00:55.43 | alanjf | Oh, I knew it was recent but not /that/ recent :) |
| 00:55.46 | *** join/#debian emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 00:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1335] by debhelper |
| 00:56.29 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 00:57.20 | *** join/#debian mambaw (~mambaw@2601:d:5d80:558:c87f:281a:94a9:662e) |
| 00:59.00 | *** join/#debian Cyber54170 (~machine@190.84.155.150) |
| 00:59.09 | alanjf | centrx: Thank you. |
| 01:00.12 | *** join/#debian Dimtree (~nobody@2600:1004:b008:24c1:1fa1:b40:ab29:b1a4) |
| 01:02.18 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@2620:f3:8000:5003::e81f) |
| 01:02.52 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 01:05.00 | *** join/#debian koell (~galactica@77.119.130.40.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 01:06.02 | *** part/#debian Dimtree (~nobody@2600:1004:b008:24c1:1fa1:b40:ab29:b1a4) |
| 01:06.24 | *** join/#debian Korak (~Korak@nc-67-238-206-153.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 01:06.40 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 01:07.43 | LonelyDanbo | Is Ubuntu and CrunchBang the only Linux that are easy to install and have a desktop environment that's easy to install (or comes by default)? |
| 01:08.07 | centrx | I find Debian very easy to install. |
| 01:08.23 | LonelyDanbo | Someone told me it would take me months to learn how to install it. |
| 01:08.47 | *** join/#debian ^Dimtree (~nobody@2600:1004:b008:24c1:1fa1:b40:ab29:b1a4) |
| 01:08.48 | centrx | I don't think so... |
| 01:09.00 | vimel | as long as you can read, and follow directions the Debian gui install is as easy as it gets. |
| 01:09.01 | LonelyDanbo | I'm having trouble getting the USB installation to work though. two days and no luck yet. |
| 01:09.10 | centrx | LonelyDanbo, The only snag would be if your hardware is not supported. |
| 01:09.11 | kdog | LonelyDanbo: considering what you said earlier about your uses, pop that Ubuntu live CD in and give it a whirl |
| 01:09.17 | LonelyDanbo | It can't locate the CD. but there is no CD. |
| 01:09.24 | centrx | LonelyDanbo, Have you tried installing from CD? |
| 01:09.33 | LonelyDanbo | I don't have a CD drive that works on my new PC. |
| 01:09.34 | themill | LonelyDanbo: how did you make this usb image? |
| 01:09.47 | *** join/#debian fresh_oy1ter (~andreas@p5B2F8F5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:09.53 | dvs | waits for the "u" word |
| 01:09.57 | LonelyDanbo | I tried once making the image with dd, and once with... something else. sec. |
| 01:10.29 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. they said there was an issue with unetbootin, but I had the exact same problem using dd. |
| 01:10.34 | dvs | there it is |
| 01:10.40 | LonelyDanbo | DD |
| 01:10.43 | LonelyDanbo | I USED DD |
| 01:11.04 | dvs | what did you type on the command line? |
| 01:11.05 | centrx | *~!*~!*~ You used the word of the day! ~*!~*!~*! |
| 01:11.40 | LonelyDanbo | dd if=<file> of=<device> bs=4M; sync |
| 01:11.54 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: What did you use for <device>? |
| 01:12.02 | LonelyDanbo | specifically, debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso and /dev/sdb |
| 01:12.28 | dvs | Actually? Why did you use a bs parameter? |
| 01:12.50 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@nat-alex-runet-out-9.rutgers.edu) |
| 01:12.52 | LonelyDanbo | ... shit. "netinst". I'm supposed to install it from the network instead of the USB stick, aren't I... damnit. |
| 01:13.09 | kdog | I found out that wheezy's php5 is vulnerable to CVE-2011-4718 and the security-tracker page sais a fix is "too intrusive to backport". Anyone mitigated this? |
| 01:13.11 | LonelyDanbo | because it says to here: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb |
| 01:13.18 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: No that will work from a USB stick. |
| 01:13.58 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-74-76-247-210.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 01:14.05 | dvs | well, that faq is wrong. You don't need a bs parameter or a sync command. |
| 01:14.12 | LonelyDanbo | well it runs, but then it looks for a CD and can't find it. so I'm guessing since "netinst" is in the filename, I'm supposed to be telling it to look over the internet. |
| 01:14.35 | themill | dvs: but neither hurt |
| 01:14.44 | dvs | true |
| 01:15.45 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: I think you can press "skip" when it asks for a CD. |
| 01:15.54 | vimel | seems ppl have issues w netinstall from what i read in here. i wonder why they dont try cd 1 install? |
| 01:16.20 | dvs | vimel: because netinst is the recommended way. But if it doesn't work, then CD 1 is the best alternate. |
| 01:16.47 | vimel | i see. good to know. |
| 01:16.51 | themill | vimel: because that error wouldn't be fixed by putting more packages on the install medium |
| 01:17.00 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 01:17.04 | vimel | yeah, it makes sense. |
| 01:17.38 | vimel | i only thought that more generic drivers on cd 1 such as network drivers. |
| 01:19.07 | dvs | vimel: no, all the drivers are in the kernel. |
| 01:19.55 | *** join/#debian DonVitoCorleone (DonVitoCor@unaffiliated/donvitocorleone) |
| 01:20.33 | vimel | gotcha. |
| 01:21.28 | LonelyDanbo | nope. there's no option to change the source. it wants a CD for some reason. |
| 01:21.36 | *** join/#debian siso (~siso@12.230.154.6) |
| 01:21.59 | LonelyDanbo | I'm about ready to cry. or destroy my new computer. |
| 01:22.19 | dvs | try the expert install so you can choose the steps to take. |
| 01:22.36 | LonelyDanbo | expert install. I wasn't sure how expert it was. |
| 01:22.53 | LonelyDanbo | It did mention something about USB for too brief a moment for me to read, before telling me there was no CD. |
| 01:23.06 | LonelyDanbo | k, brb. gotta change monitor settings every time I switch PCs |
| 01:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1328] by debhelper |
| 01:28.43 | *** join/#debian ariscop (~Phase4@icookc.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 01:28.44 | LonelyDanbo | ok, I found no installation options. |
| 01:29.10 | LonelyDanbo | It said I could skip it, but I didn't see any other menu options. |
| 01:29.16 | LonelyDanbo | I mean, for installing. |
| 01:29.16 | dvs | not even when pressing "F2"? |
| 01:29.28 | LonelyDanbo | ... |
| 01:29.30 | dvs | at the debian prompt? |
| 01:29.38 | LonelyDanbo | what does that do? |
| 01:29.56 | LonelyDanbo | you mean running the shell? |
| 01:30.03 | *** join/#debian george2 (~42@c-67-177-211-65.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:30.04 | dvs | shows the options, just like it says on the first screen? |
| 01:31.53 | *** join/#debian DonVitoCorleone (DonVitoCor@unaffiliated/donvitocorleone) |
| 01:32.46 | *** join/#debian nathwill (~nathwill@2601:7:1900:c19::ded2:9084) |
| 01:34.26 | LonelyDanbo | no, F2 does nothing. |
| 01:34.37 | LonelyDanbo | I'm just on the Debian Installer menu. |
| 01:34.41 | *** join/#debian Juankof (~juankof@server.unincca.edu.co) |
| 01:34.50 | dvs | Ctrl+F2? |
| 01:35.12 | LonelyDanbo | *"Debian Installer Main Menu" |
| 01:35.26 | dvs | Is it a graphical screen? |
| 01:35.48 | *** join/#debian kyle__ (~kyle@173-165-60-19-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 01:35.49 | LonelyDanbo | it's text. |
| 01:37.47 | dvs | It should tell you right on the main screen. |
| 01:38.22 | LonelyDanbo | "load installer components from CD" is the only thing even close, but... of course... no CD. and no alternative options. |
| 01:38.45 | LonelyDanbo | and I'm not sure if it wants me to manually find the location of the USB drive... but I don't know how to do that. |
| 01:40.14 | LonelyDanbo | if I didn't setup the USB stick properly would it boot from it but for some reason not find what it needs to install? |
| 01:40.30 | LonelyDanbo | I mean the ISO is fine. the MD5check works with no problems. |
| 01:41.12 | *** join/#debian potatoceleron (4a41ac9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.65.172.158) |
| 01:42.11 | *** join/#debian ad (~ad@162.213.250.73) |
| 01:43.09 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: unetbootin usually creates that problem. |
| 01:43.09 | *** join/#debian smonchi (~smonchi@gw.vpn.autistici.org) |
| 01:43.18 | LonelyDanbo | but it's not unetbootin |
| 01:43.34 | LonelyDanbo | it's dd |
| 01:44.12 | *** join/#debian emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 01:45.36 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: The only other suggestion I have is to use a CD1 image. |
| 01:46.48 | potatoceleron | if NOT using unetbootin didn't work, i'd try using unetbootin |
| 01:46.52 | LonelyDanbo | the installation instructions are talking about locating the .iso image... and stuff about it not looking in subfolders. but it doesn't say where to look, and I don't see it... |
| 01:47.06 | LonelyDanbo | I used unetbootin and then dd. neither worked. |
| 01:47.10 | potatoceleron | oh |
| 01:47.27 | potatoceleron | syslinux? |
| 01:47.42 | *** join/#debian lankos (1842e12f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.66.225.47) |
| 01:47.51 | LonelyDanbo | is there an .iso file in the .iso file? |
| 01:47.57 | lankos | when a place says five appliances which appliances usually are implied? |
| 01:48.01 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: no |
| 01:48.29 | potatoceleron | modem, router, firewall, ups, printer? |
| 01:48.30 | LonelyDanbo | god fucking damnit. how is it booting from the ISO I made but it can't find the data for the installation?? |
| 01:50.34 | LonelyDanbo | ... am I supposed to put the .iso file on the USB drive along with the files the .ISO file has created (through dd) ?? I don't understand what it wants. |
| 01:51.31 | *** join/#debian |DM| (~Wewt|Mang@unaffiliated/cocomango) |
| 01:51.38 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: No, dd'ing the .iso directly to the USB drive should do it. I've never had that problem when I've done it. |
| 01:51.57 | dvs | I guess trying the cat method couldn't hurt. |
| 01:52.03 | potatoceleron | dvs: even for all the distros youve tried other than debian? |
| 01:52.15 | LonelyDanbo | It did the same thing with OpenSUSE |
| 01:52.25 | dvs | potatoceleron: I've not tried other distros. |
| 01:52.44 | LonelyDanbo | it wanted a CD that wasn't there. |
| 01:53.18 | potatoceleron | dvs: you're lucky. i tried about 40 of them, mostly debian-based, before realizing i was wasting my time |
| 01:53.49 | potatoceleron | still thinks tinycore and slitaz are pretty neat |
| 01:54.15 | LonelyDanbo | actually I think OpenSUSE had options for network. |
| 01:54.28 | LonelyDanbo | but not Debian here. |
| 01:55.07 | LonelyDanbo | I wish I weren't such an idiot. my frustration makes it more difficult to solve. |
| 01:55.50 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: Then try creating it with "cat debian.iso > /dev/sdb; sync" |
| 01:56.09 | potatoceleron | you get over that with experience. not only does it make you smarter, it also teaches you to waste time less |
| 01:56.29 | potatoceleron | i.e. when to give up on something and try the easy way |
| 01:57.29 | LonelyDanbo | well it hasn't come with age. My isolation must be sheltering me from experience. |
| 01:57.57 | LonelyDanbo | dvs, thanks, will give it a try. |
| 01:58.32 | LonelyDanbo | BTW, is there any way to prepare the USB stick in advance like with partitions and uh... |
| 01:58.54 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: No, it's suppose to wipe out all partitions. |
| 01:59.04 | LonelyDanbo | well like dd didn't. |
| 01:59.16 | dvs | then you did it wrong. |
| 01:59.29 | LonelyDanbo | like when I tried to use dd after unetbootin, it said I didn't have enough space. |
| 02:00.30 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: Then the of was set to the wrong target. |
| 02:01.03 | dvs | It shouldn't have mattered what was already on the USB stick. |
| 02:03.28 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 02:03.30 | *** join/#debian useall (~lb@2001:0:53aa:64c:472:17f1:d1b6:1a55) |
| 02:03.54 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (~MrSmurf@unaffiliated/mrsmurf) |
| 02:05.12 | *** join/#debian jimcooncat (~jim@74.124.138.84) |
| 02:05.42 | *** join/#debian antimatterone (~antimatte@cpc18-aztw24-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 02:06.45 | LonelyDanbo | getting the same thing. I don't think it's the installer that's the problem. unless somehow I have the wrong ISO. |
| 02:07.03 | dvs | Or the iso is corrupt. |
| 02:07.24 | dvs | What do you mean "getting the same thing"? |
| 02:07.38 | LonelyDanbo | Debian installer main menu: detect & mount CD-ROM, Load installer components from CD, ... check the CD-ROM(s) integrity, ... Execute a shell, Abort installation. |
| 02:08.35 | LonelyDanbo | I mean it wants a CD-ROM and nothing else. |
| 02:08.52 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: Try a CD1 image. |
| 02:09.17 | LonelyDanbo | what where? |
| 02:10.10 | *** join/#debian mambaw (~mambaw@2601:d:5d80:558:c87f:281a:94a9:662e) |
| 02:10.13 | LonelyDanbo | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent ? |
| 02:10.16 | dvs | debian-7.4.0-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 02:10.48 | dvs | torrent? If you want to download it that way. |
| 02:10.58 | LonelyDanbo | I don't see a direct dowdnload link |
| 02:11.09 | LonelyDanbo | poh wait |
| 02:11.23 | *** join/#debian YamakasY (~yamakasy@g9179.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 02:11.44 | dvs | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 02:12.06 | LonelyDanbo | "Please do not download CD or DVD images with your web browser the way you download other files! The reason is that if your download aborts, most browsers do not allow you to resume from the point where it failed." |
| 02:12.41 | dvs | shrugs |
| 02:12.51 | zinx | doesn't understand why the big browsers don't do that yet.. it's not like they're trying to be bloat-free |
| 02:14.06 | LonelyDanbo | well, this is going to take a couple hours. |
| 02:14.12 | dvs | hours? |
| 02:14.19 | dvs | by modem? |
| 02:14.34 | zinx | LonelyDanbo: you could always download the netinstall like everyone else :P |
| 02:14.37 | LonelyDanbo | at least an hour. it keeps fluctuating between 50 minutes and 1:30 hours. |
| 02:14.46 | dvs | zinx: He's having problems with that image. |
| 02:14.51 | zinx | i see |
| 02:15.05 | dvs | O_O |
| 02:15.17 | dvs | damn Canada! |
| 02:15.21 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.24 | LonelyDanbo | I hope it will take the CD image on USB. |
| 02:15.43 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: Yes, they are hybrid images (CD and USB) |
| 02:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1316] by debhelper |
| 02:16.01 | peterrooney | Canada shall never be in the presence of a deity. |
| 02:16.03 | LonelyDanbo | Yeah it might be Canada. That's where I am. Maybe the Canadian NSA (I forget their name because they're so good at staying invisible) messed it up for me. |
| 02:16.36 | peterrooney | LonelyDanbo: CSEC |
| 02:16.39 | LonelyDanbo | they don't want me to use something that's not Windows. |
| 02:18.03 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 02:18.08 | dvs | ftp://debian.mirror.iweb.ca/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 02:18.25 | *** join/#debian everjeje (uid25240@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rglftlrhbtndkwux) |
| 02:19.22 | LonelyDanbo | anyway, I used that MD5check on the MD5check file on the USB stick and it was fine. It wouldn't have been messed up if that were the case, would it? |
| 02:19.33 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudiservo@78.29.155.245) |
| 02:19.54 | jimcooncat | LonelyDanbo: I didn't read your whole thread, but DownloadThemAll is a firefox addon that has resume and can run checksums |
| 02:19.56 | *** join/#debian _Lucretia_ (~munkee@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia) |
| 02:20.43 | dvs | LonelyDanbo: I'd check the md5sum of the .iso file against the MD5SUM file found in the same download directory. |
| 02:20.49 | LonelyDanbo | been having trouble with "firefox" addons on this previous version of CrunchBang. (It's IceWeasel, not FireFox) |
| 02:21.09 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 02:22.09 | jimcooncat | you could always run such stuff from a livecd if you can afford to reboot |
| 02:22.11 | LonelyDanbo | bleh... it works that way? I wonder if that's worth checking out. it's probably not going to tell me anything new. |
| 02:22.41 | potatoceleron | the canadian nsa are called the royal canadian voyeur brigade, or rcvb |
| 02:23.02 | LonelyDanbo | hahah |
| 02:23.08 | potatoceleron | but in french of course |
| 02:23.19 | LonelyDanbo | ah, so the words are reversed... |
| 02:23.39 | dvs | adjectives and nouns, yes |
| 02:25.32 | potatoceleron | echo $(echo -e "r\nc\nv\nb" | shuf) | sed "s/\ //g" ## convert rcvb from english to french |
| 02:26.40 | jimcooncat | can debian run on an android tablet, be able to control the wifi, and graphic control of the display? |
| 02:27.10 | jimcooncat | I may not even need keyboard, as long as I can set up sshd ahead of time |
| 02:28.42 | potatoceleron | you can run debian from chroot on an android device. are you trying to run it without android? |
| 02:28.49 | *** join/#debian n0wje (~anthony@75-173-66-235.albq.qwest.net) |
| 02:30.20 | jimcooncat | potatoceleron: but would the chroot let you run a server? |
| 02:30.44 | potatoceleron | not sure, i wasn't able to get it running. |
| 02:31.28 | potatoceleron | has a pengpod, it runs a debian image without android (there is an android image too) |
| 02:31.56 | potatoceleron | and the debian image should run a server, but i haven't networked with it much (other than to browse web) |
| 02:33.59 | *** join/#debian katrmega (4d1d3530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.29.53.48) |
| 02:34.04 | *** join/#debian Bryanstein (~Bryanstei@shellium/admin/bryanstein) |
| 02:34.43 | *** part/#debian katrmega (4d1d3530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.29.53.48) |
| 02:35.57 | *** join/#debian aschro_ (~aschro@dslb-088-069-061-092.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 02:36.27 | *** join/#debian lazers (~lasers@unaffiliated/lasers) |
| 02:37.19 | *** join/#debian d3lxa (~d3lxa@vneko.ch) |
| 02:37.30 | *** join/#debian Nach0z (~nach0z@unaffiliated/nach0z) |
| 02:37.37 | *** join/#debian Bonzo (~coffee@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 02:38.15 | *** join/#debian Geo (vanosg@pool-173-79-40-94.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:38.35 | Geo | Hello, via commandline, how can I change the default kernel to boot into? (wheezy) |
| 02:39.29 | potatoceleron | geo: # nano /etc/default/grub |
| 02:40.15 | potatoceleron | then run update-grub afterwards |
| 02:40.38 | Geo | ok, thank you |
| 02:40.48 | Geo | I'm installing a 64bit kernel right now |
| 02:41.06 | potatoceleron | GRUB_DEFAULT=0 is probably the line you want to change |
| 02:41.18 | Geo | Is there a way to see which # I want to put there? |
| 02:41.24 | Geo | I'm not sure where the new kernel falls in the list |
| 02:41.31 | potatoceleron | but you might want to test it once or twice from the grub menu before you go to the trouble of editing |
| 02:41.57 | potatoceleron | easiest way is to look at the list when you reboot |
| 02:42.13 | potatoceleron | (i think that will probably work) |
| 02:42.14 | Geo | I dont have physical access right now, unfortunately |
| 02:42.31 | potatoceleron | oh, in that case |
| 02:42.59 | potatoceleron | the messy way is to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 02:43.15 | potatoceleron | but every time update-grub runs (like when you install a new kernel) that edit will be lost. |
| 02:43.54 | potatoceleron | still /boot/grub/grub.cfg ought to give you a better idea of what's in what order |
| 02:43.58 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@66.55.144.185) |
| 02:43.59 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 02:44.24 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 02:44.30 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 02:45.06 | *** join/#debian oculus (~oculus@gateway/tor-sasl/oculus) |
| 02:45.10 | Geo | got it! thanks |
| 02:45.10 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 02:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1310] by debhelper |
| 02:47.17 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-129-163.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 02:47.26 | *** part/#debian fangfufu (~fangfufu@2001:41d0:a:2233::1) |
| 02:52.08 | *** join/#debian fdr (~chatzilla@189.100.129.238) |
| 02:55.55 | *** join/#debian fangfufu (~fangfufu@2001:41d0:a:2233::1) |
| 02:56.00 | *** join/#debian loonypark (~spargelba@p50888479.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:56.09 | *** join/#debian tapio__ (tapio@shell.ccnp.no) |
| 02:57.31 | *** join/#debian wols (~klingens@p5B21C554.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:57.38 | tapio__ | I've put debian-7.4.0-netinstall.iso on an usb stick, booted it into the installer but it fails on the step where it tries to mount my cdrom(!?) - how can I get passed this? |
| 02:57.45 | *** join/#debian tinydev (~tinydev@180.173.158.68) |
| 02:58.41 | tinydev | hello everyone, quick question about manpage. I want to know how to show my current position when i reading a manpage ( percent ) and total number of lines of this man page |
| 02:59.34 | tinydev | my manpage used have such states |
| 02:59.40 | LonelyDanbo | tapio__, I had the same problem. I'm trying a larger CD ISO download. |
| 03:00.12 | *** part/#debian Geo (vanosg@pool-173-79-40-94.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:00.22 | *** join/#debian mdorenka (~mdorenka@x2f671e3.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 03:02.46 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 03:03.57 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-129-163.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 03:04.21 | *** join/#debian rotad (~user@unaffiliated/rotad) |
| 03:08.25 | *** join/#debian kyle__ (~kyle@173-165-60-19-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 03:08.32 | *** join/#debian vampi-the-frog (~getf@89.35.181.113) |
| 03:08.41 | tapio__ | LonelyDanbo: Yeah quite an annoying problem, really. I dont have a large enought usb stick for the larger images I think |
| 03:09.08 | LonelyDanbo | the one I just downloaded is the size of a CD, so 600-some MB |
| 03:09.15 | LonelyDanbo | 623MB |
| 03:09.24 | LonelyDanbo | just finished downloading. :| |
| 03:11.22 | *** join/#debian MarcoZink2 (~marcozink@189.146.112.239) |
| 03:11.40 | LonelyDanbo | ... for some reason the previous netinstall ISO I wrote to the USB stick has two copies. the 2nd one has a "_" at the end. Uhg. I hope I don't end up with a USB stick with 3 installers on it. |
| 03:11.55 | *** join/#debian FungiFox (~FungiFox@99-56-40-92.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:12.21 | tapio__ | Actually 600 mb i can fit, let me know if it works, would appreciate it :) |
| 03:12.26 | LonelyDanbo | ...... maybe that's why using "cat" to write the ISO to USB failed to make any difference, because it just added a 2nd one on, and booted from the 1st one like before. T_T |
| 03:13.15 | ectospasm | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX... |
| 03:13.20 | ectospasm | wipe it and start over |
| 03:13.28 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: you trying to make a bootable USB drive from the CD/DVD ISO? |
| 03:13.30 | LonelyDanbo | I gotta wait for cat to finish. T_T |
| 03:13.37 | LonelyDanbo | Cyis, yes. |
| 03:13.50 | LonelyDanbo | ... does that not work? |
| 03:13.51 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: I just did that this morning to install my Latitude E7240... |
| 03:15.09 | Cyis | all I did was 'cp debian-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdd' ... obviously /dev/sdd was what device my 4GB USB drive was on |
| 03:15.10 | tapio__ | Cyis: the isos name is just debian-7.4.0-netinstall.iso or osmething, nothing about cd |
| 03:15.31 | Cyis | tapio__: I used the full DVD ISO |
| 03:15.46 | tapio__ | is there a "USB" iso ? |
| 03:16.07 | Cyis | tapio__: any ISO should be able to be copied to a USB drive and booted |
| 03:16.30 | Cyis | make sure you have a good download though... my first attempt was a bad image |
| 03:16.37 | Cyis | had to retry |
| 03:16.57 | *** join/#debian QwertyDragon (~chatzilla@pool-173-76-7-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:18.05 | *** join/#debian hammad__ (uid14825@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvftflihbdegxlwc) |
| 03:18.58 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 03:20.44 | Cyis | now if I could just figure out if I'm going to be able to use GNOME3 without running in failback mode I'll be happy |
| 03:20.50 | tapio__ | Seems there are special images for CD only and netinstall only. Im struggling abit to find the correct one. |
| 03:21.31 | Cyis | tapio__: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ it's not hard to find |
| 03:22.27 | *** join/#debian ghost75_ (~quassel@dslb-088-064-223-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:22.28 | Cyis | I don't bother with the netinstall version myself |
| 03:22.39 | ectospasm | why? |
| 03:23.01 | ectospasm | Do you normally install without an Internet connection? |
| 03:23.03 | ectospasm | Cyis: ^ |
| 03:23.42 | Cyis | ectospasm: because 1) I've had instances where my laptop couldn't get online until after I had a base image installed or 2) even if I could get it online I don't put it online until I've done some preliminary configuration and hardening |
| 03:23.54 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc65310-basf8-2-0-cust204.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 03:25.00 | ectospasm | paranoid? |
| 03:25.35 | Cyis | ectospasm: security conscious... I've yet to have one of my machines compromised but I've cleaned up many a client's after they were |
| 03:25.50 | potatoceleron | debian machines? |
| 03:25.51 | ectospasm | Cyis: and they were Debian machines? |
| 03:25.58 | potatoceleron | heh |
| 03:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1301] by debhelper |
| 03:26.36 | Cyis | clients usually were running CentOS, RHEL or Ubuntu... |
| 03:26.45 | ectospasm | QED |
| 03:27.00 | potatoceleron | how do they generally get compromised? (flash and javascript) |
| 03:27.02 | Cyis | Does the fact my SSH key is actually read from an OpenPGP v2 smartcard shed any light |
| 03:27.39 | Cyis | potatoceleron: one client it was because he left SSH v1 connection option available and that was the only port allowed through his firewall |
| 03:28.03 | potatoceleron | and he hadnt disabled login as root? |
| 03:28.33 | Cyis | potatoceleron: nope... not at that point |
| 03:29.31 | Cyis | most of my machines you can't even SSH into without coming through one of the VPN endpoints |
| 03:30.03 | *** join/#debian smrtz|nix (~smrtz@unaffiliated/smrtznix/x-9775867) |
| 03:30.15 | smrtz|nix | Can you guys recommend a pdf reader like llpp please? |
| 03:30.25 | Cyis | so you have to have an authorized X509 cert to connect to the VPN and then have the proper routes pushed to you, then have a pre-authorized SSH identity key that's pushed out to the machine via Puppet |
| 03:30.28 | smrtz|nix | Or a way to install llpp? |
| 03:30.44 | potatoceleron | what's special about llpp (features?) |
| 03:31.20 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: I like how small it is, it's stupid fast on my netbook, compared to others, and I like the vim keybindings by default. |
| 03:31.38 | potatoceleron | i take it evince is not to your liking then |
| 03:31.46 | *** join/#debian vampi-the-frog (~getf@89.35.181.113) |
| 03:31.52 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: no, it's much to big. |
| 03:32.06 | potatoceleron | xpdf is too crappy? (no, i wouldn't blame you) |
| 03:32.15 | smrtz|nix | haha |
| 03:32.33 | Cyis | anyone gotten the Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller working with all the bells and whistles? |
| 03:32.46 | potatoceleron | in that case, what kind of problem are you having installing llpp? |
| 03:32.47 | smrtz|nix | Like, I want a borderless window with my pfd in it, and vim keybindings. I wouldn't know what any other features are... |
| 03:33.20 | LonelyDanbo | ok, I installed the larger 600MB CD1 ISO and put it on USB. What a surprise, I get the same problem. |
| 03:33.35 | LonelyDanbo | It wants a CD. It won't give me any options for anything else. |
| 03:33.55 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: it's not in the default repos, and I was to lazy to try finding the source. I'm from Arch linux, so I'm used to 'Oh, that didn't work? Check the Wiki.' but I've yet to find anything helpfull on the debian wiki... |
| 03:34.26 | LonelyDanbo | tapio__, don't bother with the larger CD image. Same problem. |
| 03:34.34 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: what do you mean it wants a CD and won't give you any other option? |
| 03:35.04 | LonelyDanbo | I mean it says "sorry, we couldn't find the CD. Where is it?" and asks me where it is. and I don't know what to tell it. |
| 03:35.33 | LonelyDanbo | and I leave that and... I'm left with the original menu options, none of which include "just install it" |
| 03:36.18 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: http://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s03.html |
| 03:36.41 | LonelyDanbo | I get this as my menu: Debian installer main menu: detect & mount CD-ROM, Load installer components from CD, ... check the CD-ROM(s) integrity, ... Execute a shell, Abort installation. |
| 03:36.53 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: that link is exactly how I managed to do it this morning |
| 03:36.54 | LonelyDanbo | I'm installing on AMD 64bit CPU |
| 03:36.55 | *** join/#debian iceisfun (~iceisfun@services.iceisfun.com) |
| 03:37.22 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: Linux lucille 3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.9-1~bpo70+1 (2014-02-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 03:37.32 | LonelyDanbo | what? |
| 03:37.52 | *** join/#debian NightKhaos (~NK@37.187.74.221) |
| 03:37.58 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: this is Wheezy 7.4 amd64 installed this morning while I was at work |
| 03:38.00 | LonelyDanbo | I don't think I've used cp yet. I used dd, cat, and the one that apparently has problems, unetwhatever |
| 03:38.33 | Cyis | Although I had to include wheezy-backports for this laptop so I could get the newer kernel for some of the drivers |
| 03:38.41 | Cyis | otherwise this is a stock Wheezy install |
| 03:38.47 | *** part/#debian beardtree (~dan@gateway/tor-sasl/beardtree) |
| 03:39.51 | LonelyDanbo | I'm getting so sick of this crap. I don't know if writing the ISO is really the problem or if it's something mundane like "oh, you have to type in the this command to find the location of the data it wants and then type that into the location of the "CD" |
| 03:40.50 | LonelyDanbo | ... how do I write a file to a USB stick if it's unmounted? |
| 03:41.15 | LonelyDanbo | and why would copying an ISO file to a USB stick make it bootable? |
| 03:41.23 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: have you been writing it to a mounted stick? that would be the problem |
| 03:41.32 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: I literally just did the cp of the ISO and was off to the races... I did format the drive without a partition table just to wipe anything on the drive |
| 03:41.34 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@198.151.130.211) |
| 03:41.52 | LonelyDanbo | potatoceleron, ... :| |
| 03:41.59 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: because it literally copies it as an ISO9660 image to the USB drive and the image is bootable |
| 03:42.06 | potatoceleron | copying the iso to a mounted one won't work (that'd be cool though) you have to dd it to an unmounted druve |
| 03:42.25 | LonelyDanbo | how do I prepare the USB stick now that it's got this strange 2-partition setup from the ISO? |
| 03:42.55 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: Any ideas on an alternative, or should I just download the source... |
| 03:43.03 | LonelyDanbo | I mean cp will just copy a file to it, so I gather it won't setup the partition. |
| 03:43.10 | potatoceleron | the truth is running dd properly will probably sort it out. if you want to make sure, use cfdisk as root to remove its partitions |
| 03:43.12 | Cyis | LonelyDanbo: do you have another Debian machine? I used Disk Utility and just did a format with no partition table |
| 03:43.47 | *** join/#debian massmc (~massmc@107.170.51.188) |
| 03:43.49 | LonelyDanbo | I'm currently on a previous version of CrunchBang, and my new PC I'm trying to install Debian onto has nothing on it. new HDD |
| 03:43.52 | potatoceleron | cfdisk /dev/whatever-your-usb-drive-is |
| 03:44.02 | tapio__ | Why does live linux usb installers like LiLi need "install parameters" for the different distros, while dd works great without ? |
| 03:45.00 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: I can't even find the source now... |
| 03:45.02 | potatoceleron | dd just makes an iso boot. install parameters are for things like kernel and ramdisk that are already definied in the iso that dd writes. |
| 03:45.16 | LonelyDanbo | ... why is right-clicking on one of the two USB stick's partitions and saying "unmount" not giving me a message that it's unmounted? T_T |
| 03:45.20 | Cyis | I've got so many USB sticks that I've used for different bootable images that I always reformat to wipe them before reusing them. I think my smallest one is 2GB |
| 03:45.23 | LonelyDanbo | Why does nothing I do work properly? |
| 03:45.25 | potatoceleron | the iso contains the parameters, so dd doesnt need them |
| 03:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1295] by debhelper |
| 03:46.55 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: http://freecode.com/projects/llpp |
| 03:47.22 | LonelyDanbo | ok... I believe the USB drive is unmounted. (df -h showed them before and then didn't after I unmounted each one) so I'm trying the cp command. |
| 03:47.54 | vimel | LonelyDanbo: maybe taking a look at this guide will help you. https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/install.pdf.en |
| 03:47.55 | *** join/#debian spinningcompass (~spinningc@99-120-205-106.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:47.55 | smrtz|nix | Thanks. |
| 03:47.59 | potatoceleron | why would cp work? |
| 03:48.02 | LonelyDanbo | I wish I'd known it needed to be unmounted. would have saved me many hours. |
| 03:48.19 | LonelyDanbo | .... wat |
| 03:48.21 | potatoceleron | everyone makes mistakes like that sometimes |
| 03:48.32 | potatoceleron | don't use cp. use dd while it's umounted |
| 03:48.37 | tapio__ | potatoceleron: Ok that sounds fair enough. How come LiLi, etc. cant read them like dd ? If i understand correctly dd only copies the data block by block from the iso to the usb |
| 03:48.43 | potatoceleron | and before you waste more time, paste the command you're going to run here |
| 03:48.53 | tapio__ | something to do with windows not allowing that or something ? |
| 03:48.54 | *** join/#debian IonelPopescu (~ionel@p5.eregie.pub.ro) |
| 03:49.04 | *** join/#debian zigong (~zigong@24.157.214.77) |
| 03:49.18 | LonelyDanbo | ... o-okay... b-back to dd... @_@; |
| 03:49.26 | potatoceleron | tapio: windows has image writers too. there is a comparable tool to dd for this |
| 03:49.38 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: that links source is down. |
| 03:49.40 | potatoceleron | you need uac privs |
| 03:49.43 | smrtz|nix | l |
| 03:49.53 | potatoceleron | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.48 | potatoceleron | it should be something like # dd if=debianboot174.iso of=/dev/your-usb-drive |
| 03:50.57 | *** join/#debian spinningcompass_ (~spinningc@173.192.170.67) |
| 03:51.09 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. I got it. It's going. |
| 03:51.23 | potatoceleron | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.33 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. just sdb |
| 03:51.41 | potatoceleron | that should do it |
| 03:52.02 | *** join/#debian AtomicSpark (~quassel@unaffiliated/atomicspark) |
| 03:52.50 | LonelyDanbo | There's just so much information, and the format is unfamiliar and the information is unfamiliar. |
| 03:53.09 | LonelyDanbo | ok, it's done. I'm off to see if it works. |
| 03:54.22 | potatoceleron | good luck |
| 03:54.35 | potatoceleron | it will be more familiar at some point |
| 03:56.31 | *** part/#debian maferv (~maferv@181.26.154.165) |
| 03:56.35 | *** join/#debian TheNumbers_ (uid21212@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lanqkubnkthzakmp) |
| 03:56.44 | Cyis | well I'm calling it a night... been a long day |
| 03:56.53 | *** join/#debian maferv (~maferv@181.26.154.165) |
| 03:57.45 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: I'm trying to install okular, another pdf reader, and it needs me to insert the install disk. Is there a way to remove the install disk from the reposotories? |
| 03:57.54 | *** join/#debian engla (~engla@unaffiliated/engla) |
| 03:58.15 | LonelyDanbo | I'm back. It's still doing the same thing. |
| 03:58.56 | LonelyDanbo | "No common CD-ROM drive was detected... Load CD-=ROM drivers from blah blah blah?" No. "Manually select a CD-ROM module & device?" |
| 03:59.01 | *** join/#debian mdim (~user@c-98-202-215-47.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 03:59.27 | mdim | how to find out if package x is included on CD #1 of Debian Wheezy? |
| 03:59.39 | LtL | smrtz|nix: uncomment the cd line from /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:59.41 | smrtz|nix | Anyone know if I can comment out the 'deb cdrom' line in my sources.list, so I stop getting the "insert install disk into drive and press enter" error when trying to install packages? |
| 03:59.48 | smrtz|nix | LtL: awesome, thanks! |
| 03:59.54 | LtL | smrtz|nix: np |
| 04:00.07 | smrtz|nix | LtL: you mean comment, not uncomment, right? |
| 04:00.13 | LonelyDanbo | What am I supposed to be seeing in my installation menu? |
| 04:00.47 | LtL | smrtz|nix: yes, comment sorry. |
| 04:01.10 | smrtz|nix | LtL: cool thanks. Any idea why I have two, one commented, and one uncommented? |
| 04:01.32 | mdim | or, where can I find a list of packages that are included on debian-7.4.0-amd64-CD-1.iso? |
| 04:01.37 | LonelyDanbo | hm. do I not use cfdisk on an unmounted USB drive? |
| 04:01.44 | LtL | smrtz|nix: many installations have two, not sure why |
| 04:01.46 | LonelyDanbo | it gave me an error "Warning!! Unsupported GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected. Use GNU Parted." |
| 04:02.27 | smrtz|nix | awesome, thanks. |
| 04:02.28 | *** join/#debian schlarpc (~schlarpc@cpe-098-026-019-153.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 04:02.36 | *** join/#debian nihilista (~nihilista@141-136-208-113.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 04:05.41 | LonelyDanbo | I don't understand what I'm doing. I mean I have a vague idea. I used DOS ages ago. but this thing about mounting is new to me. |
| 04:05.46 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: use cfdisk on it umounted-- only |
| 04:05.52 | potatoceleron | unmounted ^ |
| 04:05.58 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 04:06.04 | LonelyDanbo | but it's giving that error. |
| 04:06.13 | potatoceleron | like dos, there are not many steps. like dos, you need to do it right the first time |
| 04:06.45 | potatoceleron | if cfdisk wont work, fdisk will. use it to make a new partition table. it's got dos like menus |
| 04:06.54 | *** part/#debian pederindi (~music@112.56.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 04:07.10 | potatoceleron | cfdisk is more friendly but might choke on partition issues as you can see (when the partition table is fine, so is cfdisk) |
| 04:07.38 | potatoceleron | don't be discouraged. this is pretty familiar stuff when you've done it a few times |
| 04:07.41 | smrtz|nix | I've made a terrible mistake... I'm still installing dependancys... So many dependancies. |
| 04:07.54 | LonelyDanbo | wow. same thing. "Warning!! Unsupported GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected. Use GNU Parted." |
| 04:08.12 | potatoceleron | how big is the usb? |
| 04:08.14 | LonelyDanbo | fdisk didn't even run. cfdisk ran even with the complaint though. |
| 04:08.19 | LonelyDanbo | It's 8GB. |
| 04:08.30 | LonelyDanbo | but it didn't complain when I tried it before. |
| 04:08.48 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: i got repo.or.cz/w/llpp.git working, but it stalled for like 15 minutes before it loaded |
| 04:08.52 | steven7731 | What uses gap between the MBR and first partition? I know that GRUB holds its 1.5 stage code there and Linux software-RAID superblocks are in this area, but what else? |
| 04:09.19 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: Oh, weird? I'll have to keep trying... |
| 04:09.49 | potatoceleron | wget -O- repo.cz/w/llpp.git should take a while to respond |
| 04:09.58 | LonelyDanbo | uhg... I can't even remember why I was going to format it... what I thought I was going to try differently this time... |
| 04:10.22 | potatoceleron | did dd work this time> |
| 04:10.29 | *** join/#debian mixomathoze (~mixomatho@144.54-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 04:10.30 | LonelyDanbo | no |
| 04:10.34 | potatoceleron | ok |
| 04:10.38 | LonelyDanbo | same problem. |
| 04:10.58 | potatoceleron | if its only 8gb you can zero it out (but by now i'd try another usb to be sure) |
| 04:11.22 | *** join/#debian cjsarette (~cjsarette@cjsarette.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 04:11.28 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: wget can't resolve the address... You said you got it? |
| 04:11.34 | potatoceleron | dd if=/dev/zero of=your-usb-drive will overwrite the entire drive. then you should be able to run cfdisk OR fdisk |
| 04:12.15 | *** join/#debian Hxxx (182a06f4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.42.6.244) |
| 04:12.28 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: it resolves to 195.113.20.142:80 |
| 04:12.33 | *** part/#debian Hxxx (182a06f4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.42.6.244) |
| 04:12.39 | LonelyDanbo | something must be horribly wrong.. maybe it's my new PC. |
| 04:12.48 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: weird... |
| 04:13.11 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: sometimes trying it in a different setting helps you figure out what went wrong |
| 04:13.19 | potatoceleron | like different pc or difffent usb |
| 04:13.22 | smrtz|nix | Weird... |
| 04:13.26 | smrtz|nix | Now it's connected... |
| 04:13.38 | smrtz|nix | I guess I'll just let that sit for a bit. |
| 04:13.39 | smrtz|nix | thanks. |
| 04:14.15 | wols | LonelyDanbo: under what OS are you creating this USB stick? |
| 04:14.36 | LonelyDanbo | I don't think I tried it using cp. I think the one time I tried cp, I was told not to use it so I immediately used dd unmounted. |
| 04:14.57 | LonelyDanbo | CrunchBang (previous version. I forget the name. Statler?) |
| 04:14.59 | wols | LonelyDanbo: and what is your hardware (mainboard and dvd drive) |
| 04:15.13 | *** join/#debian babinlonston (~babinlons@61.3.154.60) |
| 04:15.24 | LonelyDanbo | There is no optical drive on either this old PC I'm writing it from, or the new PC I'm trying to install it on. |
| 04:16.20 | LonelyDanbo | hardware for the new PC I'm trying to put Debian on or the one I'm setting up the USB stick from? |
| 04:16.26 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD620FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:17.24 | LonelyDanbo | new one: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-core processor. Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P motherboard. |
| 04:17.26 | wols | the one to install debian on |
| 04:18.55 | LonelyDanbo | spending too many hours failing with no progress is really soul-crushing. and two days of this is unbearable. |
| 04:19.45 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 04:20.31 | *** join/#debian martianlobster1 (~csims@c-76-122-85-44.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 04:21.54 | LonelyDanbo | cp didn't do any better. |
| 04:22.19 | LonelyDanbo | I hate my life. I hate myself. |
| 04:22.57 | *** join/#debian spudwebb (~spuddweb@24.147.245.241) |
| 04:25.19 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: it's not you and it's not debian |
| 04:25.39 | potatoceleron | it might be a bad usb. a bad command. a bad iso |
| 04:26.01 | potatoceleron | it might be but probably isnt bad instructions |
| 04:26.27 | potatoceleron | but don't try too hard, or give up too easy |
| 04:26.54 | potatoceleron | and don't beat your head against the wall. it's probably something simple. something fixable. |
| 04:27.16 | potatoceleron | this is basic stuff, it will ultimately feel like basic stuff |
| 04:27.46 | potatoceleron | i used to have a weird cdrom. it took 45 minutes to boot a 50mb iso. i will never know why |
| 04:28.01 | potatoceleron | but i tried too hard. i insisted. eventually i got it working |
| 04:28.35 | potatoceleron | so i thought it would always be that awful. it's not. i didn't have to prove anything, i just had to try again, another time. |
| 04:29.10 | potatoceleron | but i thought i had to prove it would or wouldnt work. you know what? it's really not as bad as it looks. |
| 04:29.56 | potatoceleron | once you know what youre doing, its a lot easier-- how do you get there? practice with working setups. |
| 04:30.36 | *** join/#debian jetblack (~jetblack@108-252-129-150.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:30.39 | *** join/#debian syssi (~syssi@unaffiliated/syssi) |
| 04:31.01 | potatoceleron | i also thought it was the distro i chose that made the difference. it rarely is, but sometimes it is (regarding hardware support) |
| 04:31.48 | *** join/#debian wyz (~wyz@221.212.116.53) |
| 04:31.57 | potatoceleron | this is also why we need more people that can help in person. lugs are good for that |
| 04:32.25 | potatoceleron | but you can do it. you're trying too hard, you'll get there. |
| 04:33.10 | potatoceleron | it's always trying too hard when it starts to crush your soul. i've busted install cd's over it. maybe a keyboard or two. that's trying too hard. |
| 04:33.22 | potatoceleron | but it's usually not that bad, i promise. |
| 04:34.06 | *** join/#debian James0r3 (~james@113.189.12.121) |
| 04:35.15 | James0r3 | does adding the testing repos mean my system is "no longer stable"? |
| 04:35.28 | potatoceleron | only if you install from them |
| 04:36.21 | potatoceleron | doesnt care who thinks debian is/isn't worth the trouble, but hates to see anyone truly unhappy over it |
| 04:36.47 | James0r3 | ahh. so just curious...i installed the xfce flavor and noticed it was still on version 4.8. to get 4.10 i needed to add the testing repo. so even though 4.10 has been out for a long time it's still being technically tested? |
| 04:37.29 | potatoceleron | testing refers to the packages as they are created for debian, not to the projects themselves |
| 04:37.34 | James0r3 | potatoceleron, i'm brand new to it and really happy with it so far. i loev the idea i don't have to re-up when i lose support for a version |
| 04:38.07 | potatoceleron | xfce 4.10 may be stable, but the package (of that version) for debian may not be in debian packaging terms |
| 04:38.20 | James0r3 | interesting. |
| 04:38.45 | potatoceleron | debian is among other things, a collection of packages. those packages go through testing, and make their way to stable |
| 04:38.48 | James0r3 | is this why debian is touted as being so stable? goes through a rigorous "testing" process? |
| 04:39.07 | potatoceleron | sometimes a 2 year long process. it's running on the international space station. |
| 04:39.19 | potatoceleron | and they still use debian 6- wheezy is 7 of course |
| 04:39.26 | potatoceleron | and 7 is stable. |
| 04:39.47 | potatoceleron | wheezy=7 jessie=testing sid=unstable |
| 04:39.49 | LonelyDanbo | bleh, I dunno. I usually find... learning material is confusing. There's no steps. there's like this alien language that looks vaguely like English but doesn't follow the same rules. and you're like "is that a "do X and Y" or "do X OR Y"??" |
| 04:39.53 | James0r3 | is it common for people to avoid the testing repos altogether? |
| 04:40.26 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: respectfully, you're scattered. you need to slow down and do each step right. yes it's possible one step isn't working |
| 04:40.37 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@nat-broad-resnet-out-1.rutgers.edu) |
| 04:40.47 | potatoceleron | but you've got irc, you've got your documentation, you've got your term/window and that's a lot to keep track of |
| 04:40.55 | LonelyDanbo | and then it's like "do A, B, C, D, E, and F" and every single step requires you to go search what they are and how to do them, and you stubbornly think "I shouldn't have to do this for such a simple result." |
| 04:41.13 | potatoceleron | it takes discipline or experience to get through hurdles. i don't have discipline, so i had to wait for experience :) |
| 04:41.36 | potatoceleron | James0r3: stable is stable, but testing has newest stuff. |
| 04:41.36 | LonelyDanbo | and then you get lost with each one, wondering things like how to format a USB stick or something. |
| 04:41.53 | LonelyDanbo | AND THEN... when you finally finish... you never use it again for over a decade. |
| 04:41.55 | James0r3 | LonelyDanbo, i know how you feel but "shouldn't have to" is pretty relative. if you're committed to the task you just "do have to" |
| 04:42.08 | LonelyDanbo | and you forget it all. |
| 04:42.11 | potatoceleron | so people that don't mind the hassle use testing, and people that want to be sure use stable |
| 04:42.25 | wols | James0r3: you cannot mix debian stable and testing. if you do, you get a mess where you soon have to reinstall |
| 04:42.28 | potatoceleron | for me, grub works fine, but it has an annoying and unsightly error |
| 04:42.38 | potatoceleron | wols: i will get back to you on that |
| 04:43.13 | potatoceleron | on some machines, i use testing. i upgraded from stable. |
| 04:43.23 | *** join/#debian littlebear (~littlebea@209-195-75-100.cpe.distributel.net) |
| 04:43.31 | James0r3 | wols, the image i installed with is debian-live-7.4-i386-xfce-desktop.iso |
| 04:43.42 | James0r3 | is that testing? |
| 04:43.43 | wols | potatoceleron: you can switch to full testing, you just cannot mix stable and testing packages |
| 04:43.57 | wols | James0r3: no. it's debian stable |
| 04:44.04 | potatoceleron | wols: i'm not confident which of those i'm doing, so hopefully i'm using testing |
| 04:44.28 | potatoceleron | wols: but uh, it's not like i've upgraded everything. when i upgraded x11 it borked, so i dialed it back and it works. |
| 04:44.30 | James0r3 | wols, but for example my nonfree wifi firmware needed testing. so that means i can't run stable with wifi support? |
| 04:44.43 | wols | potatoceleron: did you do a dist-upgrade? |
| 04:44.43 | *** join/#debian Blueer (Blueer@p5B359D3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:44.44 | potatoceleron | it was FUN to install old x11 on top of new one. oh boy |
| 04:44.50 | potatoceleron | wols: yep by the book. |
| 04:45.01 | wols | James0r3: which firmware would that be? |
| 04:45.06 | potatoceleron | wols: at least by the book i think. upgrading to testing is really new stuff for me |
| 04:45.23 | James0r3 | wols, firmware-brcm80211 |
| 04:45.26 | smrtz|nix | What package do I need to install to run the svn command? |
| 04:45.33 | James0r3 | broadcom wifi adapter |
| 04:45.53 | wols | James0r3: you also needed a later kernel? the firmware should be in backports like the kernel |
| 04:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1286] by debhelper |
| 04:46.05 | wols | smrtz|nix: apt-file, packages.debian.org, etc. |
| 04:46.16 | James0r3 | i don't think i upgraded my kernel unless inadvertendly |
| 04:46.23 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: i can probably get you through your difficulty, but what makes it difficult is i'll tell you how and i will have no way to know what you actually did |
| 04:46.26 | smrtz|nix | wols: what? |
| 04:46.47 | potatoceleron | and if you're already unhappy, you're more likely to do something other than the instructions |
| 04:46.47 | *** join/#debian anudasanudasis (~anudasanu@54-18.207.85.static.bluetone.cz) |
| 04:47.32 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-76-236.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:48.23 | James0r3 | wols, these are my sources http://paste.ubuntu.com/7053955/ .I'm not necessarily set out to have the freshest newest software versions. just hardware support and common applications |
| 04:48.35 | wols | smrtz|nix: ways you can help yourself |
| 04:48.54 | *** join/#debian mambaw (~mambaw@2601:d:5d80:558:51f8:ef0f:22bf:5d65) |
| 04:49.04 | wols | smrtz|nix: or simply, "apt-cache search subversion" |
| 04:49.37 | wols | James0r3: normally, new firmware also needs new kernel versions. so are you sure you had to use the testing non-free repos to get your firmware? |
| 04:49.43 | *** join/#debian kanzure (~kanzure@131.252.130.248) |
| 04:49.45 | LonelyDanbo | I was just getting food. |
| 04:50.08 | *** join/#debian useall (~lb@2001:0:53aa:64c:472:17f1:d1b6:1a55) |
| 04:50.10 | LonelyDanbo | being angry makes a person slightly irrational, you mean. |
| 04:50.13 | James0r3 | wols, not positive. i had no working sources out-of-the-box. maybe because i didn't have network during install? not sure |
| 04:50.20 | potatoceleron | food is good. low blood sugar can turn a challenge into hell |
| 04:50.31 | smrtz|nix | wols: subversion, that's what I want. I tried apt-cache, and then thought it might be git-svn, and tried a few other packages... |
| 04:50.33 | potatoceleron | irrational? not necessarily. /distracted/ |
| 04:50.37 | wols | James0r3: that's normal for something that needs non-free firmware, yes |
| 04:51.19 | James0r3 | wols, is it pretty unstable or dangerous to mixing those sources that i'm using? |
| 04:51.23 | LonelyDanbo | well, the brain seems to fire off differently then. obvious things are overlooked. assumptions are made. |
| 04:51.31 | potatoceleron | true |
| 04:51.38 | *** join/#debian mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) |
| 04:51.58 | centrx | James0r3, If you are going to use testing packages, just upgrade to testing. |
| 04:52.09 | centrx | James0r3, Otherwise, use wheezy-backports or source backports |
| 04:52.15 | LonelyDanbo | I should get my old CRT in here so I don't have to switch back and forth... eh... maybe not. there's not much space. |
| 04:52.16 | potatoceleron | anyway, i've been there lots of times. getting worked up is a signal that you have to change something-- the time, the setting, or the approach. maybe even the goal, but that's probably not necessary |
| 04:52.37 | James0r3 | centrx, wish i knew what that meant |
| 04:52.46 | LonelyDanbo | oh right. I was backing up data on another USB stick to try it. |
| 04:52.55 | centrx | James0r3, Why do you want to use testing? |
| 04:53.17 | James0r3 | centrx, basically i want a system that's fairly stable. should i avoid testing? maybe i made a mistake by adding it in the first place. |
| 04:53.32 | James0r3 | centrx, was just desparate to get my wifi working so i could set up my system |
| 04:53.36 | LonelyDanbo | I gotta find out what partition type it is before I mess with it though, so I can get it working on Linux and Windows machines like before. |
| 04:53.44 | potatoceleron | testing is /fairly/ stable |
| 04:54.04 | potatoceleron | fdisk -l /dev/your-usb-drive will list partition types |
| 04:54.21 | centrx | James0r3, It depends on what you did after you added that source. You might have already upgraded yourself halfway to testing |
| 04:54.24 | potatoceleron | actually just fdisk -l by itself will |
| 04:54.27 | James0r3 | potatoceleron, centrx if testing is fairly stable i'll use it. how do i completely upgrade to testing then? |
| 04:54.42 | potatoceleron | checks the wiki |
| 04:54.56 | wols | James0r3: what does dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 say? |
| 04:55.00 | James0r3 | centrx, ahh maybe i did. when i went to install leafpad it grabbed another 37megs of libraries |
| 04:55.09 | centrx | dpkg: tell James0r3 about wheezy->testing |
| 04:55.24 | centrx | dpkg: tell James0r3 about wheezy->jessie |
| 04:55.29 | potatoceleron | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting |
| 04:55.34 | James0r3 | ii libc6:i386 2.18-4 i386 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 04:55.43 | centrx | yup, you are already on testing |
| 04:55.57 | centrx | in the main |
| 04:56.08 | centrx | You probably have a bunch of packages remaining in stable, which is a recipe for instability |
| 04:56.11 | James0r3 | centrx, ahh okay. well it's not gonna blow my system up is it? |
| 04:56.22 | potatoceleron | it always could |
| 04:56.27 | centrx | James0r3, You kind of have to upgrade all the way to testing now |
| 04:56.31 | James0r3 | how do i fully convert then? |
| 04:56.38 | centrx | James0r3, Read the instructions dpkg messaged yo uwith |
| 04:57.07 | James0r3 | centrx, k i'll check it out. thx |
| 04:57.15 | *** join/#debian ksinny (~quassel@kde/developer/sinnykumari) |
| 04:57.25 | *** join/#debian ur725 (~ur725@nat.mtp.cmsinter.net) |
| 04:59.07 | James0r3 | centrx, maybe i'm already fully converted...i have no mentions of stable in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:59.12 | *** join/#debian jbroome (jbroome@freenode/staff/lopsa.member.jbroome) |
| 04:59.52 | *** join/#debian marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) |
| 04:59.56 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 04:59.57 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 05:00.02 | centrx | James0r3, sources.list is the source of future package installation |
| 05:00.04 | wols | James0r3: that is irrelevant. you need to dist-upgrade |
| 05:00.26 | *** join/#debian Peer69 (~Peer69@162.248.167.24) |
| 05:00.27 | James0r3 | wols, i'm just following the documentation they linked me too. |
| 05:00.33 | LonelyDanbo | maybe I'll try a different USB port on the new PC if this doesn't work... I was using a USB 2.0 plug on the front. I've got USB 3.0 but... no USB 3.0 devices. *shrug* could at least try the back. |
| 05:00.37 | James0r3 | i've done the dist-upgrade already |
| 05:00.56 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: you have your computer setup to boot from the usb right? |
| 05:01.17 | LonelyDanbo | yes. I mean, it loads the installer. I don't know how else it would manage that. |
| 05:01.18 | *** join/#debian HazardX2 (~HazardX3@pool-71-184-139-63.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:01.33 | potatoceleron | right good |
| 05:01.36 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 05:01.45 | LonelyDanbo | I'm a little confused on the boot options in it's BIOS. It only has two options, one of which is SATA something, the other which is unfamiliar to me. |
| 05:01.58 | wols | LonelyDanbo: your PC probably woN't boot from USB3 since your mainboarc chipset doesn't support USB3, you have an extra chip for that |
| 05:02.13 | LonelyDanbo | (no mention of USB in the title though) |
| 05:02.16 | potatoceleron | sata is the new ide, it's your hard drive |
| 05:02.39 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. |
| 05:02.45 | potatoceleron | the other thing it mentions might be booting from the network, which has a funny name |
| 05:02.51 | potatoceleron | ipx or something like that |
| 05:03.29 | LonelyDanbo | brb. going to try it. |
| 05:07.45 | *** join/#debian us`0gb (~0gb.us@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 05:08.41 | LonelyDanbo | it's still doing the same thing. |
| 05:08.53 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-129-163.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 05:09.01 | *** join/#debian Lucky_Red (~Lucky_Red@ppp-2-85-248-223.home.otenet.gr) |
| 05:09.04 | potatoceleron | but what tho? |
| 05:09.22 | LonelyDanbo | at least with the graphical advanced menu, it selects "USB-storage" as the module to load for the source, but then it goes back to failing to find anything and asking for the CD. |
| 05:09.23 | potatoceleron | what does the installer do |
| 05:10.03 | potatoceleron | when i have used the text installer, it chokes on grub installation. that's just me. |
| 05:10.04 | LonelyDanbo | what were the options... uhm... Install, advanced settings... and two others. |
| 05:10.17 | potatoceleron | errrrr, i mean when i have used the graphical one. |
| 05:10.59 | LonelyDanbo | I think I've tried all the other installation types before. |
| 05:11.15 | LonelyDanbo | the only difference being that some of them give the USB-device option while others don't. |
| 05:11.18 | potatoceleron | the text installer is not bad. the worst part is if you need to manually partition (you dont) |
| 05:11.32 | LonelyDanbo | don't I need to if I want encryption? |
| 05:11.46 | potatoceleron | hmm. i dont know |
| 05:12.07 | LonelyDanbo | I hear it wipes your drive anyway. |
| 05:12.11 | *** join/#debian f001 (~f001@5.56.169.85) |
| 05:12.18 | potatoceleron | depends. |
| 05:12.21 | LonelyDanbo | so wouldn't be much point in installing it and then applying encryption. |
| 05:12.33 | potatoceleron | and not really. if you want to "wipe" your drive, use a drive wiper |
| 05:12.43 | potatoceleron | and those have limitations |
| 05:12.53 | potatoceleron | if you reeeeeallly want to wipe your drive, melt it in a fire |
| 05:13.38 | LonelyDanbo | no, I mean installing Debian and then it getting wiped by setting up encryption. |
| 05:13.53 | LonelyDanbo | unless it were somehow easier to do that way. |
| 05:14.35 | *** join/#debian zoey (~matada@unaffiliated/matada) |
| 05:14.40 | potatoceleron | wols: is it easy enough to set up encryption (for the whole partition) AFTER installation? |
| 05:14.52 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 05:14.59 | zoey | Weird. I created 3 partitions with the debian installer, however they are half the size they should be. |
| 05:15.09 | *** join/#debian diytto (~diytto@159.118.82.76) |
| 05:15.23 | potatoceleron | zoey: 3 halves and you're up on the deal |
| 05:15.31 | zoey | swap is 3820mb instead of 8096, / is 32gb instead of 50, and my file folder is 420gb instead of 900 |
| 05:15.32 | *** join/#debian ur725 (~ur725@nat.mtp.cmsinter.net) |
| 05:15.56 | *** join/#debian gh02us (~gh02us@209.208.27.107) |
| 05:16.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1292] by debhelper |
| 05:16.32 | potatoceleron | tries to banish superstition about ext4 |
| 05:16.34 | *** join/#debian diytto (~diytto@159.118.82.76) |
| 05:16.46 | *** join/#debian skoota (~skoota@183.17.139.101) |
| 05:17.03 | *** join/#debian kyle__ (~kyle@173-165-60-19-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 05:17.16 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.184.11.175) |
| 05:17.17 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 05:19.31 | *** join/#debian sdkie_ (~chatzilla@59.90.209.115) |
| 05:19.58 | wols | potatoceleron: on a new disk yes. on your current debian installation: no |
| 05:20.13 | potatoceleron | wols: it's for a friend (new setup) |
| 05:20.22 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 05:20.39 | potatoceleron | maybe LonelyDanbo's setup would go easier if they weren't trying to setup encryption during install |
| 05:20.44 | wols | it can be done in the installer. /msg dpkg ig |
| 05:20.53 | potatoceleron | no no no |
| 05:20.56 | potatoceleron | it can't this time |
| 05:21.04 | wols | it can |
| 05:21.09 | potatoceleron | please believe me |
| 05:21.26 | potatoceleron | i dont know what else could be the problem. |
| 05:21.29 | wols | the installer allows you to automatically set up an encrypted debian installation |
| 05:21.44 | potatoceleron | the installer isn't even installing... adding features seems too ambitious. |
| 05:21.46 | *** join/#debian dotDeb (~dotDeb@unaffiliated/dotdeb) |
| 05:21.57 | themill | I can't explain why the installer can't find the usb stick, but wanting to encrypt the hard disk has nothing to do with it |
| 05:22.23 | potatoceleron | themill: so, i'm trying to help someone install, but i cannot help with that step. |
| 05:22.59 | potatoceleron | themill: i've had the installer choke on GRUB so this seems just as plausible (i fixed it by using text instead of graphical and it worked) |
| 05:23.11 | *** join/#debian casheew (~casheew@109.75.178.128) |
| 05:24.09 | potatoceleron | if people weren't such great believers in the installer it might be easier to work around the bugs that really do exist |
| 05:24.21 | potatoceleron | especially when it fails to install for someone |
| 05:25.17 | potatoceleron | edge cases aren't all pebkac errors (but those are worth working around too) |
| 05:25.23 | themill | I don't doubt there are bugs here, but if you look at the architecture of the installer, you see that some things have to be independent of each other |
| 05:26.00 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 05:26.06 | themill | (and text vs graphical would make no difference, for instance, as the exact same installer code is running, just different rendering code to make the pictures on the screen) |
| 05:26.21 | LonelyDanbo | hey, does info from "mount" help any? |
| 05:26.39 | potatoceleron | themill: do you know how many times on how many machines it said grub NOT FOUND but when i ran text installer it found it? |
| 05:26.50 | *** join/#debian stfsux (~stfsux@225.172.198.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 05:27.16 | themill | potatoceleron: no I don't. Which bug report will give me more information about this again? |
| 05:27.17 | potatoceleron | "grub installed failed" / ok, do it from text installer / "grub installed successfully" <- OVER and OVER (wheezy 7.0) |
| 05:27.25 | *** join/#debian sdkie_ (~chatzilla@59.90.209.115) |
| 05:27.33 | potatoceleron | themill: i didn't file one. after all, no one ever believes bug reports anyway :| |
| 05:27.40 | themill | ... |
| 05:27.46 | LonelyDanbo | rootfs on / type rootfs, none on /run type tmpfs, none on /proc type proc, none on /sys type sysfs, tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs, /dev/pts... |
| 05:27.55 | potatoceleron | holy crap i've run into that on like 7 different machines. |
| 05:28.03 | LonelyDanbo | crap I shortened some of that. let me double-check. |
| 05:28.22 | potatoceleron | but every time my workaround worked. so like, don't tell me it's the same. MAYBE it was low ram. don't know- don't even care. |
| 05:28.31 | stew | potatoceleron: so you are going with the strategy of hoping this will get fixed without reporting the bug? |
| 05:28.42 | *** join/#debian towski_ (~towski_@76.14.75.67) |
| 05:28.50 | *** join/#debian evilman_home (~evilman_h@89-179-77-66.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 05:28.52 | *** join/#debian unix-markow (~ejm@176.122.215.241) |
| 05:28.56 | potatoceleron | stew: it's probably fine in 7.1 or 7.4 - doesn't matter, i'm happy with the text installer now. |
| 05:29.21 | stew | ic |
| 05:29.37 | potatoceleron | the text installer is more reliable- for me, if only for little misguided me. |
| 05:29.50 | potatoceleron | i do machines with low ram, so maybe grub ran out. who knows? |
| 05:30.04 | potatoceleron | no one will ever know. i dont even know. |
| 05:30.24 | *** part/#debian unix-markow (~ejm@176.122.215.241) |
| 05:30.30 | potatoceleron | i got it working, that's all i care about. if i were cleverer, i'd figure it out. |
| 05:30.53 | LonelyDanbo | none on /run type tmpfs (rw, nosuid, relatime, size=409108k, mode=755) I wonder if that's the USB drive. |
| 05:31.01 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@dslb-092-073-158-048.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:31.01 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 05:31.03 | *** join/#debian arjun_ (~arjun@122.165.225.85) |
| 05:31.14 | potatoceleron | methinks your usb is not mounted |
| 05:31.19 | potatoceleron | dmesg | tail |
| 05:31.26 | potatoceleron | or just run dmesg |
| 05:31.41 | potatoceleron | it will hint at your usb stick |
| 05:32.02 | LonelyDanbo | k, brb. |
| 05:32.31 | stew | LonelyDanbo: its not a usb drive, it is literallly "none" |
| 05:32.56 | stew | that is "lets take some memory and pretend it is a really fast hard drive" |
| 05:33.14 | stew | themill: ahoy mate |
| 05:33.26 | themill | aloha |
| 05:33.28 | LonelyDanbo | USB mass storage support registered. after a lot of stuff I can't scroll up to see. but no difference to the results from mount. (I'm typing this blind.) |
| 05:33.31 | stew | mahalo |
| 05:33.47 | *** join/#debian asterismo (~asterismo@r186-52-241-159.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 05:34.00 | *** join/#debian tomatosalad (~tomatosal@pool-98-112-111-108.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 05:34.04 | potatoceleron | dmesg is a log, so the stuff at the top probably doesnt matter |
| 05:34.38 | potatoceleron | when you plug a usb drive in, running dmesg should mention it-- like sdb sdb1 sdb2 (depending how many partitions it has) |
| 05:34.53 | potatoceleron | that's BEFORE you mount it. after you mount it, you can use the mount command or df -h |
| 05:35.04 | LonelyDanbo | that was in the prompt from ALT-F2. I quit that and went back to ALT-F1 but it had no effect on detecting the CD image. |
| 05:35.36 | potatoceleron | ok, here's what i think |
| 05:35.37 | LonelyDanbo | mention it? at the bottom where I can see it? |
| 05:35.37 | *** join/#debian viscera (~viscera@unaffiliated/viscera) |
| 05:35.43 | potatoceleron | at the bottom, yes |
| 05:35.51 | LonelyDanbo | I don't think df -h works. |
| 05:36.00 | potatoceleron | i cant imagine it would |
| 05:36.09 | *** join/#debian boscage (~boscage@unaffiliated/boscage) |
| 05:36.37 | potatoceleron | i think you have a usb port the installer cant see properly. i'm a novice, not an expert (and not a noob, though i may sound like one) |
| 05:36.42 | potatoceleron | this is a new, new pc? |
| 05:36.48 | LonelyDanbo | yes. |
| 05:37.05 | potatoceleron | it sounds like you wrote the usb just fine. the installer, as you suspect, isn't working. |
| 05:37.11 | *** join/#debian DarkEnergy (~DarkEnerg@unaffiliated/darkenergy) |
| 05:37.13 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~Shiva@unaffiliated/lordshiva) |
| 05:37.17 | potatoceleron | unless i'm wrong. which would be just fine. |
| 05:37.59 | potatoceleron | did you see what mount command output listed as mounted on / |
| 05:38.13 | LonelyDanbo | ehhh... |
| 05:38.26 | potatoceleron | just run mount and look for / |
| 05:38.31 | LonelyDanbo | rootfs on / type rootfs ? |
| 05:38.42 | potatoceleron | yeah but no drive info there? |
| 05:38.43 | *** join/#debian arunasank (uid12887@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejdeljefvfxjeczc) |
| 05:39.01 | LonelyDanbo | uh there was something brief I think. like (rw)? |
| 05:39.09 | LonelyDanbo | let me check |
| 05:39.28 | LonelyDanbo | yes. just "(rw)" |
| 05:39.28 | potatoceleron | rw means it's mounted as readable and writable, instead of read-only |
| 05:39.34 | *** join/#debian guest617 (~username@200.146.58.179.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) |
| 05:39.34 | potatoceleron | too bad |
| 05:40.12 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: apparantly you can setup encryption after you install. |
| 05:40.22 | potatoceleron | you think you could get any farther with the text installer? |
| 05:40.40 | potatoceleron | i'm told it's exactly the same, but i'm skeptical. |
| 05:40.46 | LonelyDanbo | dmesg | tail spit out... usb 9-4: device descriptor read/64, error -32 (twice) |
| 05:40.47 | *** join/#debian chomwitt_ (~chomwitt@ppp-94-64-20-5.home.otenet.gr) |
| 05:41.05 | LonelyDanbo | usb 9-4: new fulls-speed USB device number 4 using ohci-hcd |
| 05:41.17 | LonelyDanbo | usb 9-4: device not accepting address 4, error -32 |
| 05:41.18 | dotDeb | is debian really much stabler than ubuntu? |
| 05:41.38 | potatoceleron | debian is stable, ubuntu is based on debian testing |
| 05:41.46 | potatoceleron | so yeah most likely |
| 05:42.07 | LonelyDanbo | I'm using the text installer. no difference. |
| 05:42.11 | potatoceleron | MUCH stabler? i've watched ubuntu get less predictable over the years. |
| 05:42.20 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: i'm really sorry |
| 05:42.28 | dotDeb | potatoceleron ah okay cool |
| 05:42.31 | potatoceleron | i've watched debian get easier to use |
| 05:42.36 | dotDeb | potatoceleron I'm seriously considering switching |
| 05:42.46 | dotDeb | potatoceleron and I'm using GNOME 3 anyways, with ubuntu |
| 05:42.59 | LonelyDanbo | I wonder if there's something wrong with my USB ports. reading that dmesg | tail output makes me think that, despite not knowing what it means. |
| 05:43.02 | potatoceleron | dotDeb: every year debian gets easier to use, so the motivation for using something BASED on debian gets less significant |
| 05:43.30 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: it's possible |
| 05:43.31 | dotDeb | potatoceleron and what's the benefit of the freeBSD kernel? |
| 05:43.47 | *** join/#debian powis (~ircap@90.174.1.180) |
| 05:44.03 | LonelyDanbo | but I tried a port on the back with the same result. It's not like it would just be the front USB connector being plugged in wrong. |
| 05:44.03 | potatoceleron | dotdeb: i wouldn't know. if you use the freebsd kernel and want to install debian, i guess you can |
| 05:44.18 | *** join/#debian frenetik (~frenetik@77-56-105-45.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 05:44.25 | dotDeb | potatoceleron i'm just curious why it's offered |
| 05:44.28 | *** join/#debian Ratboy (~ratboy@essn-4d09f674.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 05:44.31 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: if you had another computer that booted from usb, it would be great if you could test the installer on that. |
| 05:44.52 | potatoceleron | dotDeb: debian tries to be "universal" and offers more than one kernel |
| 05:44.55 | dotDeb | potatoceleron i also like that the debian kernel is fully free by default |
| 05:45.02 | dotDeb | potatoceleron ahh cool |
| 05:45.11 | potatoceleron | dotDeb: oh me too. i was using trisquel before |
| 05:45.17 | LonelyDanbo | I have this one, but it's ancient. it's a 1GHz single core CPU. I don't know if that would effect things... other than... having to download a different installer ISO |
| 05:45.28 | dotDeb | potatoceleron cool cool, ru a FSF type? |
| 05:45.41 | potatoceleron | it's one thing to USE non-free firmware. but for people to TRUST it... in this day/age |
| 05:45.58 | LonelyDanbo | "USB has an over-current protection, which gets triggered when power consumption from the port is too high. (Triggering this error)" WAAAAAAT |
| 05:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1298] by debhelper |
| 05:46.03 | potatoceleron | dotDeb: i'm an fsf type but debian culture fits me better. not because i like the non-free repos, i dont |
| 05:46.46 | dotDeb | potatoceleron what do you mean about the culture |
| 05:46.49 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: i'm running debian testing, upgraded from stable 7.0 install. let me get you my specs... |
| 05:47.26 | potatoceleron | dotDeb: i'm a free culture advocate, but ALSO free culture. fsf really doesnt get free culture. but i am always interested in what they have to say about software. |
| 05:47.54 | potatoceleron | i said free culture twice. i meant free software/free culture |
| 05:48.16 | dotDeb | potatoceleron ah i see |
| 05:48.26 | LonelyDanbo | hmm... I thought perhaps it was my Dell monitor's USB hub plugged in, but unplugging that had no effect on dmesg | tail results. ... :| |
| 05:48.52 | *** join/#debian Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@pool-173-74-75-83.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:49.27 | LonelyDanbo | BTW, I was wrong about the BIOS boot option. It was explicitly USB. ("EUFI: Generic USB...") |
| 05:49.38 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: 1.4 ghz 512 mb of ram |
| 05:49.52 | LonelyDanbo | I hope my motherboard isn't DOA with fried USB ports and stuff... |
| 05:50.00 | LonelyDanbo | Nice. |
| 05:50.06 | LonelyDanbo | I got 512MB of RAM too. |
| 05:50.11 | potatoceleron | try the ancient one. i've installed on specs lower than yours. |
| 05:50.16 | LonelyDanbo | I can't believe I can play YouTube videos on this clunker. |
| 05:50.28 | LonelyDanbo | not very well though. |
| 05:50.45 | LonelyDanbo | it plays YouTube videos smoother than it plays Flash games. :P |
| 05:50.53 | potatoceleron | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.08 | potatoceleron | that loads the low-res one that's good for old clunkers |
| 05:51.11 | LonelyDanbo | I somehow manage to play Kingdom Rush on it. slowly. :| |
| 05:51.29 | *** join/#debian trent (~trent@unaffiliated/trent) |
| 05:51.33 | smrtz|nix | Can someone help me figure out hou to set up audo pleas? I've installed alsa-utils, and added myself to the audio group, but the right outputs arn't showing up in alsamixer... |
| 05:51.35 | LonelyDanbo | hm? what do you put that in? |
| 05:51.44 | potatoceleron | the terminal |
| 05:52.11 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: did you run alsactl init |
| 05:52.30 | smrtz|nix | nope... potatoceleron |
| 05:52.53 | potatoceleron | it might help (might not) |
| 05:53.16 | smrtz|nix | should I relogg after running that, or will it be instant? |
| 05:53.26 | *** join/#debian guest617 (~username@200.146.58.179.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) |
| 05:53.29 | potatoceleron | should be instant |
| 05:53.37 | smrtz|nix | then no, it didn't help. |
| 05:53.41 | potatoceleron | it might change your volume settings |
| 05:53.49 | *** part/#debian guest617 (~username@200.146.58.179.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) |
| 05:54.06 | potatoceleron | sometimes when i'm having sound trouble, i service pulseaudio stop |
| 05:54.09 | smrtz|nix | powis: Are you active? You just PMd me spam. Stop... |
| 05:54.11 | potatoceleron | as root. |
| 05:54.25 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: me too. i'd say something rude about him, but it's probably a bot |
| 05:54.41 | potatoceleron | wishes bots could feel pain |
| 05:55.01 | smrtz|nix | yeah, probably, should I go to #freenode and get them to remove him? |
| 05:55.10 | potatoceleron | you'd be my personal hero |
| 05:55.31 | smrtz|nix | Ok, I will. |
| 05:55.41 | smrtz|nix | pulseaudio is an unrecognized service... |
| 05:55.50 | potatoceleron | pulse-audio ? |
| 05:56.16 | potatoceleron | nevermind, it's not hyphenated |
| 05:56.47 | LonelyDanbo | "USB has an over-current protection, which gets triggered when power consumption from the port is too high. Unplug all USB devices from PC, turn power off, and wait a minute or two. Plug everything back and boot into Linux." |
| 05:57.01 | LonelyDanbo | That is not going to work for me if it's just from the USB stick... |
| 05:57.11 | LonelyDanbo | but if it's my monitor's USB hub... |
| 05:57.18 | LonelyDanbo | that's worth a try. |
| 05:57.23 | potatoceleron | sure why not |
| 05:57.25 | LonelyDanbo | brb. |
| 05:57.38 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: should I install any more pacages? or is alsa-utils all I need? |
| 05:57.56 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: you could try sudo apt-get install pulseaudio |
| 05:58.05 | smrtz|nix | I'm installing pulseaudio now. |
| 05:58.12 | potatoceleron | when you dont have it, sometimes running it helps. when you do have it, rarely, NOT running it helps |
| 05:58.31 | potatoceleron | i look forward to a day when it's not a factor. it's probably going to be a long time though |
| 05:58.34 | smrtz|nix | Is there a wiki page on setting up these basic things that I'm just not seeing? |
| 05:58.49 | *** join/#debian dreamon__ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 05:59.35 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: probably, but we're just trying things by trial and error. don't take any of it as written gospel |
| 05:59.53 | smrtz|nix | is there a command I can run to test my output? |
| 06:00.07 | smrtz|nix | I was just playing with sdr# before, I've never needed it before... |
| 06:00.17 | *** join/#debian koell (~galactica@77.119.130.40.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 06:00.35 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 06:01.42 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav |
| 06:01.48 | LonelyDanbo | I will be very very upset if my power supply is too weak for my computer. It's like 145W over what pcpartpicker said my system needed. |
| 06:02.33 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav |
| 06:02.51 | potatoceleron | installs windows 8 on powis |
| 06:02.56 | potatoceleron | suffer. |
| 06:02.57 | LonelyDanbo | ... damned 4-dimensional USB plugs! http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2388 |
| 06:03.58 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: thanks. And nope, it's still not working. |
| 06:04.17 | potatoceleron | try becoming root |
| 06:05.04 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 06:05.24 | smrtz|nix | It errors out if I add sudo... |
| 06:05.56 | *** part/#debian nkuttler (~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler) |
| 06:05.57 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler) |
| 06:06.00 | smrtz|nix | Do you want me to pastebin them? |
| 06:06.11 | potatoceleron | you can run alsamixer though, yes? |
| 06:06.21 | smrtz|nix | yeah. |
| 06:06.29 | potatoceleron | you can pastebin but i offer no guarantee it will help |
| 06:06.32 | smrtz|nix | without sudo, since I'm in the audio group. |
| 06:06.37 | smrtz|nix | eh, ok. |
| 06:07.21 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar) |
| 06:07.57 | smrtz|nix | pastebin.com/DyF7tS17 |
| 06:08.13 | smrtz|nix | The next thing I do will be to set up copy and pasting into and out of tmux. |
| 06:09.18 | *** join/#debian sdkie (~chatzilla@59.90.209.115) |
| 06:09.37 | LonelyDanbo | well... it's not doing the same thing it was last time... but it's worse now. Now selecting expert install just goes to a blank screen. Now I'm worried my hardware is fried and that somehow it'll be my fault and I'll be out $250 for motherboard and CPU. |
| 06:10.18 | *** join/#debian sdkie_ (~chatzilla@123.201.144.195) |
| 06:11.10 | kanliot | wtf is expert install? |
| 06:11.49 | *** join/#debian jampola (~james@110.164.104.127) |
| 06:11.51 | LonelyDanbo | I dunno. previously it would at least tell me about the USB-device module it was loading before failing to find the CD image. |
| 06:12.00 | *** join/#debian stooj (~StooJ@220-244-219-21.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 06:12.35 | LonelyDanbo | maybe I should check the CPU's thermal compound. It's alright to take it off and put it back, right? :| |
| 06:12.43 | *** join/#debian maddogie (~jim@37-5-243-104-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 06:13.07 | smrtz|nix | LonelyDanbo: I'm sorry, I haven't been following your issues. What's the problem? |
| 06:13.08 | kanliot | no |
| 06:13.21 | smrtz|nix | Also, if you do that, replace it with new compound. |
| 06:13.24 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: try another distro and/or boot from cd. test your usb ports. |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian anoNxeRo (~anonimity@89.165.6.98) |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian anoNxeRo (~anonimity@unaffiliated/nu253r/x-0655220) |
| 06:13.44 | smrtz|nix | USB ports not working? |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian ex-parrot (~ex-parrot@2401:f000:8000:0:76d4:35ff:fe1c:6027) |
| 06:14.06 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo thinks usb ports maybe fried |
| 06:14.07 | smrtz|nix | plug a liveUSB into the offending port, and boot up into bios boot options, see if it's there. |
| 06:14.22 | potatoceleron | it's there. it loads the installer. installer fails midway |
| 06:14.29 | smrtz|nix | Oh... |
| 06:14.42 | kanliot | is it the gui installer? |
| 06:14.46 | LonelyDanbo | smrtz|nix, can't install. It fails to find the CD (I'm installing from USB. there's no CD drive.) I had found an error in dmesg | tail that led me to believe there was an issue with the USB port shutting down due to drawing too much power. Unplugging my Dell monitor's USB hub seems to have made things worse. |
| 06:14.46 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~bocaneri_@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 06:14.47 | stooj | I've got / sitting on an lvm and want to expand it. I thought that you needed to resize the filesystem (ext4) offline, but I am seeing on the internet that it can be done on a live partition. Is this correct? |
| 06:14.52 | potatoceleron | he's getting a message about usb over current protection |
| 06:14.56 | smrtz|nix | doesn't sound like usb, because it has to load it all into ram before it bothers to start, right? |
| 06:15.04 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: i had him try with the text installer. it didn't help |
| 06:15.06 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: oh, weird.. |
| 06:15.12 | LonelyDanbo | bleh. you're more concise than me. |
| 06:15.15 | potatoceleron | no it doesn't have to load everything into ram. |
| 06:16.03 | smrtz|nix | Oh, sorry. On arch, it did that with the initramfs system. I'm still trying to figure out not arch I guess. |
| 06:16.13 | LonelyDanbo | Somehow it loads the installer from USB... but then fails to find the rest of itself through USB or give me any alternative. The netinstall ISO did the same thing, wanting a CD. |
| 06:16.29 | smrtz|nix | LonelyDanbo: do you have another computer lying around? |
| 06:16.40 | potatoceleron | yes |
| 06:16.46 | LonelyDanbo | just this old one I'm on. |
| 06:16.54 | LonelyDanbo | hm. should I try it out on this one? |
| 06:17.00 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 06:17.03 | kanliot | that makes very little sense danbo |
| 06:17.06 | LonelyDanbo | I guess it's not like it'll wipe my CrunchBang. |
| 06:17.28 | smrtz|nix | Can you throw the hard drive you're using into that, do the install and then put it back in the offending computer? potatoceleron what do you think? |
| 06:17.29 | potatoceleron | will it boot from usb |
| 06:17.40 | LonelyDanbo | kanliot, it doesn't make sense to me. |
| 06:17.52 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: i dont know if it's a good idea, but i would try it if i were doing it myself. |
| 06:18.05 | smrtz|nix | heh. |
| 06:18.06 | *** join/#debian disarone (~disa@xdsl-84-44-129-142.netcologne.de) |
| 06:18.40 | potatoceleron | if you can't trust the hardware, no installer can do anything about it |
| 06:18.51 | smrtz|nix | LonelyDanbo: try it with ubuntu, since I know you can move the HDD around without fucking up the install. On debian it might freak out since it's not the same hardware. |
| 06:18.51 | LonelyDanbo | ... ehhh... will CrunchBang work on completely different CPU architecture? |
| 06:19.00 | smrtz|nix | LonelyDanbo: no. |
| 06:19.02 | smrtz|nix | wait,. |
| 06:19.06 | potatoceleron | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.06 | smrtz|nix | from what to what? |
| 06:19.09 | potatoceleron | good point |
| 06:19.23 | potatoceleron | 64bit new machine, 1 ghz old machine |
| 06:19.25 | LonelyDanbo | From a single core 1GHz CPU to an 8 core 64bit AMD CPU. |
| 06:19.27 | smrtz|nix | intel 32 to intel 64? yes. |
| 06:19.37 | smrtz|nix | intel to AMD? or both AMD? |
| 06:19.39 | potatoceleron | no no |
| 06:19.46 | LonelyDanbo | I think this one's AMD too. |
| 06:19.53 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: no? |
| 06:19.53 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. AMD Athlon. |
| 06:20.00 | potatoceleron | the old machine is 32 bit, the installation is 64 |
| 06:20.07 | potatoceleron | it will never install on the old one. |
| 06:20.28 | smrtz|nix | right, but he could throw a 32 bit test install on that, and it would still boot up in the 64bit enviroment.. |
| 06:20.53 | LonelyDanbo | no but can I put the 32bit installation in the 64bit machine and... install the 64bit version onto the new HD in the new machine... from the 32bit installation... |
| 06:20.56 | potatoceleron | you dont know how many times he made the boot usb already |
| 06:21.06 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 06:21.14 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: stranger things have been done |
| 06:21.24 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: I guess not, haha. |
| 06:21.42 | LonelyDanbo | ("like that haunted teapot") |
| 06:22.16 | smrtz|nix | LonelyDanbo: I don't think I followed that, but give it a shot! Just don't install over top of you Crunchbang by mistake, and know that you can't install 64bit onto the HDD in the 32bit mashine. |
| 06:22.46 | *** join/#debian Darryl (~Darryl@183.87.220.153) |
| 06:22.52 | LonelyDanbo | can I install 64bit from a 32bit installation in a 64bit machine? |
| 06:23.07 | smrtz|nix | from a 32bit installation? |
| 06:23.10 | LonelyDanbo | yes. |
| 06:23.11 | potatoceleron | debian is multiarch, so i think so. |
| 06:23.23 | LonelyDanbo | hm. |
| 06:23.27 | potatoceleron | don't ask me how to do the upgrade though |
| 06:23.30 | smrtz|nix | if the image on the USB supports it, than yes. |
| 06:23.38 | LonelyDanbo | (assuming my new PC isn't fried. oh god I hope not. T_T ) |
| 06:23.48 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: I don't think you can, don't you just add the multilib repo? |
| 06:23.53 | potatoceleron | oh it wont need to be on the installer, the upgrade should be possible from apt system |
| 06:24.40 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: you'd be a better person to help with the upgrade to 64bits. but debian 7 is multiarchitecture. |
| 06:24.42 | LonelyDanbo | bleh... I'll have to go offline to stick this HDD in the new machine and see if it boots up. |
| 06:24.53 | potatoceleron | good luck danbo |
| 06:24.54 | *** join/#debian jthomas (~jthomas@nat.sierrabravo.net) |
| 06:25.16 | LonelyDanbo | k. hopefully bbiab (if I don't fry everything) |
| 06:25.17 | *** join/#debian ariscop (~Phase4@icookc.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 06:25.28 | smrtz|nix | good luck, you can always connect from a smartohone at webchat.freenode.net |
| 06:25.33 | *** join/#debian snuffeluffegus (~snuffeluf@ps95204.dreamhost.com) |
| 06:25.41 | LonelyDanbo | I have no smartphone. I am old tech. |
| 06:25.51 | smrtz|nix | then you're fucked. |
| 06:26.14 | smrtz|nix | haha, if you have any issues, just boot up into a live enviroment, you don't need the HDD to do that, and then ask us for help. |
| 06:26.32 | LonelyDanbo | there is the Win7 machine in the other room... :| that I can use if it's important. |
| 06:26.49 | smrtz|nix | yep |
| 06:26.52 | LonelyDanbo | I should write down some of the info I have before I close everything down. |
| 06:27.11 | *** join/#debian shinnya (~shinnya@253.118.111.219.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 06:27.11 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: care to help with my audio issues while we wait? |
| 06:27.38 | potatoceleron | i looked up your error. it said UNinstalling pulseaudio helped (note, i did say...) |
| 06:27.55 | potatoceleron | i'm a bit stuck, as you are. but i'm surprised that wav file wasnt on your system |
| 06:27.55 | smrtz|nix | haha, ok. I'll give it a shot. |
| 06:29.11 | smrtz|nix | I removed it, and stoped the service, same error. |
| 06:29.48 | potatoceleron | hates audio |
| 06:29.59 | smrtz|nix | me too. |
| 06:30.03 | potatoceleron | it works all the time, until this happens. and this always happens. |
| 06:30.12 | potatoceleron | new install? |
| 06:30.39 | smrtz|nix | yeah, less than a few weeks old... |
| 06:30.52 | potatoceleron | that's too bad, that's when it works the best |
| 06:30.57 | smrtz|nix | haha. |
| 06:32.09 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: any ideas? Or should I wait until this channel is more active? |
| 06:32.54 | potatoceleron | all i'm going to do is look it up on duckduckgo |
| 06:33.11 | potatoceleron | but the thing is, this is something i usually fix by trying things we've tried |
| 06:33.29 | potatoceleron | your sound card is probably working, as alsamixer runs |
| 06:33.38 | smrtz|nix | exactly. |
| 06:33.59 | potatoceleron | maybe you need to install more alsa stuff... the wav files arent there (you dont need those, but why arent they there) |
| 06:34.09 | *** join/#debian dbb0 (~dbb@c-67-163-168-213.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 06:34.16 | smrtz|nix | haha, good idea... |
| 06:34.24 | potatoceleron | you could try installing libasound |
| 06:34.30 | potatoceleron | if it's not installed |
| 06:34.47 | smrtz|nix | are you sure that's the package name? |
| 06:35.20 | *** join/#debian miss0r1 (~cnc@188-183-233-18-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 06:36.49 | *** join/#debian zcoldplayer (~pritvi@197.226.47.33) |
| 06:37.02 | potatoceleron | ops are worthless |
| 06:37.12 | potatoceleron | die in a fire powis |
| 06:37.51 | smrtz|nix | haha, yeah, I'm supprized, normally the people on #freenode are super helpfull. |
| 06:37.55 | potatoceleron | smrtz|nix: this isn't meant as a snarky q: ever heard of apt-cache search |
| 06:38.54 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: yeah, I ran it on libasound, but it didn't return any output. |
| 06:39.01 | potatoceleron | really |
| 06:39.05 | potatoceleron | hmm brb |
| 06:39.11 | smrtz|nix | yeah. |
| 06:39.32 | potatoceleron | sudo apt-get install libasound2 |
| 06:39.47 | smrtz|nix | ahh, needed a 2. |
| 06:39.50 | smrtz|nix | thanks |
| 06:39.58 | smrtz|nix | Also, I've already got. |
| 06:40.02 | potatoceleron | yeah |
| 06:40.26 | potatoceleron | this is why i hate audio |
| 06:41.26 | potatoceleron | i wish webchat either supported /ignore or DIDNT support pm |
| 06:41.37 | potatoceleron | wrong features for sure |
| 06:41.51 | smrtz|nix | well, it needs support for PM. |
| 06:42.00 | smrtz|nix | you could always install a full client? |
| 06:42.04 | potatoceleron | or! or they didn't ditch mibbit. cause i'm pretty sure mibbit can ignore. |
| 06:42.07 | smrtz|nix | Checkout hexchat, it's loved by many. |
| 06:42.20 | *** join/#debian Bichito (~Venom@62.83.194.117.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 06:42.20 | *** join/#debian Bichito (~Venom@unaffiliated/bichito) |
| 06:42.36 | potatoceleron | yeah i'm going to install software on my computer because ops ditch a working webchat client for a crap one. |
| 06:43.02 | potatoceleron | and whatever security problems exist on that client, i'll just deal with them |
| 06:43.14 | LonelyDanbo | hm. I came across this. "The previous steps were completely contained in the boot image included on the CD, a file of limited size and loaded into memory by the BIOS when booting from the CD." |
| 06:43.16 | smrtz|nix | heh, good point, but you get many benifits from installing a real client. |
| 06:43.38 | smrtz|nix | LonelyDanbo: where did you see that? when trying to boot? or trying to install? |
| 06:43.50 | LonelyDanbo | from this: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.installation-steps.html |
| 06:43.56 | potatoceleron | yeah you get convenience and peace of mind, unless there's a zero-day |
| 06:44.04 | LonelyDanbo | 4.2.5. Detecting Hardware (where I get stuck) |
| 06:44.09 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@24-148-90-126.c3-0.arm-ubr1.chi-arm.il.cable.rcn.com) |
| 06:44.41 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: I guess, I feel like a webapp is probobly more vulnerable though. |
| 06:44.43 | potatoceleron | when the pm spam gets bad enough because the ops are worthless, i just won't use freenode |
| 06:44.53 | themill | potatoceleron: did you think about actually telling us? |
| 06:45.03 | potatoceleron | themill i didn't mean YOU |
| 06:45.06 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 06:45.08 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@90.174.1.180] by themill |
| 06:45.10 | *** kick/#debian [powis!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (You should know better) |
| 06:45.11 | potatoceleron | i meant the freenode ones. this is pm spam. |
| 06:45.11 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 06:45.28 | potatoceleron | thank you though. i didn't know you had jurisdiction over that. |
| 06:45.42 | potatoceleron | in fact, the first time he pestered me he wasn't in here. |
| 06:45.51 | LonelyDanbo | ... that's strange. this page also shows "64bit" in the installer menu, which I don't remember seeing. |
| 06:46.16 | *** join/#debian hammad_ (uid14825@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gpsbbqholnvyzwnp) |
| 06:46.34 | potatoceleron | went to #freenode was brushed off. kind of knew that would happen |
| 06:46.35 | LonelyDanbo | oh. maybe because that has "Install" and "64 bit install", whereas mine's just a 64bit installation, so there's no need to distinguish. |
| 06:46.36 | smrtz|nix | themill: you're an OPer? If I had known, I would have gone strait to you... |
| 06:46.59 | *** join/#debian sdkie (~chatzilla@123.201.144.195) |
| 06:47.02 | themill | no |
| 06:47.13 | potatoceleron | themill can he pm us now that he's kicked? |
| 06:47.27 | potatoceleron | my familiarity with irc protocol is totally bitrot |
| 06:47.34 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: he's still in the server, just not the channel. |
| 06:47.41 | smrtz|nix | so he can talk to anyone in the server. |
| 06:47.43 | potatoceleron | yeah :/ that's the thing. |
| 06:47.51 | smrtz|nix | he just can't get our nics from the channel nick list.. |
| 06:47.58 | potatoceleron | maybe he wont because he's using the list to find us though |
| 06:47.58 | themill | no, it can't |
| 06:48.19 | miss0r1 | You can always pm |
| 06:48.21 | themill | most dumb bots make use of who is active in the channel |
| 06:48.34 | miss0r1 | In order to remove that, you'd need a personal ignore filter |
| 06:48.40 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs178075132196.pp.htv.fi) |
| 06:48.46 | potatoceleron | well thank you, themill. if i'd known i would have asked |
| 06:48.56 | themill | you could also set umode +R |
| 06:49.16 | potatoceleron | miss0r1: my attitude towards that is when webchat is too vulnerable to use, i'll just quit trying |
| 06:49.56 | miss0r1 | potatoceleron, I'm sorry - I was not in on this conversation from the start. What is the vulnerability? |
| 06:50.15 | smrtz|nix | I don't know how I feel about +R, I might need to see one of those messages... |
| 06:50.26 | potatoceleron | miss0r1: no /ignore in webchat... which is pretty annoying (i used freenode from mibbit long ago when it was supported) |
| 06:50.57 | smrtz|nix | My battery is about to die, so that's where I'll be if I randomly leave... |
| 06:51.13 | potatoceleron | looks like i succeeded: == Usermode change: +R |
| 06:51.15 | smrtz|nix | themill: would you be willing to help me with my audio issue pleaes? |
| 06:51.16 | miss0r1 | potatoceleron, Can't you just install an irc client? or perhaps ssh to a terminal where it is installed? |
| 06:51.35 | potatoceleron | i don't know what that means, presumably that i won't get pm |
| 06:51.55 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: only PMs from users registerd with nickserv |
| 06:52.12 | potatoceleron | miss0r1: i was pretty happy with the webclient that freenode ditched. but if /umode +R means no more pm's, that's good enough |
| 06:52.16 | miss0r1 | smrtz|nix, Clever fix |
| 06:52.40 | miss0r1 | potatoceleron, indeed - if the ones that pm you are registered with nickserv that will help |
| 06:52.41 | potatoceleron | isn't nickserv dead? |
| 06:52.43 | *** join/#debian towski_ (~towski_@76.14.75.67) |
| 06:52.45 | miss0r1 | no |
| 06:52.47 | smrtz|nix | miss0r1, what did I do? |
| 06:52.51 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: lol no. |
| 06:53.01 | smrtz|nix | I use it on every nick I own. |
| 06:53.07 | smrtz|nix | it's the only way to admin channels... |
| 06:53.18 | miss0r1 | smrtz|nix, oh, sorry. I have you credit for themill's fix |
| 06:53.32 | smrtz|nix | miss0r1 no worries? |
| 06:53.36 | smrtz|nix | .* |
| 06:53.41 | miss0r1 | not at all |
| 06:54.40 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~mezgani@196.201.78.139) |
| 06:54.58 | *** join/#debian fordcars_pi (~pi@modemcable101.170-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 06:55.01 | potatoceleron | miss0r1: out of curiousity, can you -o when you need to? |
| 06:55.05 | fordcars_pi | Hi |
| 06:55.34 | *** join/#debian NotJimCarrey (~notjimcar@c-24-16-196-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 06:55.50 | miss0r1 | potatoceleron, If one were an Operator of the given channel - which I am not. |
| 06:55.59 | miss0r1 | then yes |
| 06:56.03 | potatoceleron | right ok |
| 06:56.20 | miss0r1 | I am just the regular joe like you |
| 06:56.49 | fordcars_pi | I just got Debian for my laptop, dual-boot with windows, and everything works great! Well, I haven't tried it yet but the installer went great :) Anyway, I am stuck: I installed GRUB in a partition, but how can I set the bios to start in that partition? Is it possible? |
| 06:57.00 | potatoceleron | defocus covers human anatomy almost every time i peek in there |
| 06:57.12 | potatoceleron | or should i say uncovers |
| 06:57.43 | potatoceleron | you generally want to put grub where the bios is normally looking for it |
| 06:57.51 | *** join/#debian snuffeluffegus (~snuffeluf@2a00:1a28:1251:46:246:93:201:1) |
| 06:57.53 | fordcars_pi | Yeah, too late, sorry :X |
| 06:57.54 | potatoceleron | which for me, is the mbr |
| 06:58.04 | fordcars_pi | Rookie mistake that I made |
| 06:58.13 | potatoceleron | fordcars_pi: not necessarily, you might be able to install it to the mbr too |
| 06:58.24 | fordcars_pi | Mbr? |
| 06:58.31 | smrtz|nix | Master boot record |
| 06:58.31 | potatoceleron | master boot record |
| 06:58.38 | fordcars_pi | Ah ok :) |
| 06:58.42 | smrtz|nix | it's how your bios knows to load the OS. |
| 06:58.56 | fordcars_pi | And how do I do that? |
| 06:59.10 | miss0r1 | fordcars_pi, Not all bioses can mend this - theres one fix thou. Does the computer still boot windows? |
| 06:59.16 | fordcars_pi | Yep |
| 06:59.22 | smrtz|nix | unless you're using U/EFI, then it's just fucking magical, and there's like a god damned gypsy living in there that fucking points to the bits the OS needs to load. |
| 06:59.26 | smrtz|nix | or something like that... |
| 06:59.26 | potatoceleron | the "easiest" way is to reinstall... but there are others if you have valuable data on there. |
| 07:00.03 | *** join/#debian sourcodec1 (~52a01f764@162.243.242.85) |
| 07:00.18 | miss0r1 | alright, if you don't want to risk breaking your win installation, I would recommend installing a blop or blob(can't remember) boot manager on a USB stick, and use that to start linux/windows |
| 07:00.33 | potatoceleron | plop? |
| 07:00.44 | fordcars_pi | Alright, I'll check that out |
| 07:00.48 | miss0r1 | http://www.plop.at/ |
| 07:01.01 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 07:01.15 | smrtz|nix | miss0r1: you any good with audio? |
| 07:01.17 | miss0r1 | potatoceleron, A realy nice little boot manager to use with old hardware that does not allow usb boot for example. |
| 07:01.28 | miss0r1 | smrtz|nix, not really. I do servers |
| 07:01.43 | smrtz|nix | miss0r1: damn, ok. thanks anywayt |
| 07:02.04 | wols | miss0r1: the bootmanager is called "plop" btw |
| 07:02.05 | *** join/#debian ayaz (~Ayaz@linuxpakistan/ayaz) |
| 07:02.24 | miss0r1 | wols: indeed |
| 07:02.47 | *** join/#debian ayaz (~Ayaz@linuxpakistan/ayaz) |
| 07:04.15 | miss0r1 | smrtz|nix, Might I recommend asking the question instead of asking specific persons if they are any good with 'subject' ? |
| 07:04.35 | potatoceleron | he just can't get alsa working |
| 07:04.37 | smrtz|nix | Ok, I've just been working on this for a while. Sorry. |
| 07:04.55 | potatoceleron | alsamixer runs and that's about the only sign that anything is right |
| 07:05.12 | potatoceleron | we've tried installing pulse and then uninstalling it |
| 07:05.33 | smrtz|nix | I've got alsamixer running, I'm in the audio group, everything looks fine, but I don't have the correct output on in the menu in alsamixer... |
| 07:05.57 | miss0r1 | you sure it found the hardware? |
| 07:06.00 | *** join/#debian Mike__ (~mike@85.186.5.107) |
| 07:06.12 | *** join/#debian Corerris (~Corerris@c-46-246-121-136.anonymous.at.anonine.com) |
| 07:06.16 | smrtz|nix | miss0r1: nope, how can I check? |
| 07:06.41 | potatoceleron | it's worth checking, but without the hardware being found alsamixer probably wouldnt run |
| 07:07.08 | miss0r1 | smrtz|nix, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Alsa-sound-6.html |
| 07:08.19 | smrtz|nix | damn, I've got to manually type that in, lol.. |
| 07:08.23 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 07:09.40 | miss0r1 | smrtz|nix, Welcome to the wondrous world of linux |
| 07:09.46 | *** join/#debian karab44 (~kvirc@host-91-192-90-101.elomza.pl) |
| 07:10.03 | smrtz|nix | I just need to set up copy and paste in/out of tmux. |
| 07:10.12 | smrtz|nix | and link handeling in weechat |
| 07:10.23 | smrtz|nix | and probobly a bunch of other shit... |
| 07:10.52 | potatoceleron | does tmux like gpm? |
| 07:11.01 | miss0r1 | 'stuff' he said stuff :) |
| 07:11.02 | potatoceleron | i've used both, but not together |
| 07:11.21 | smrtz|nix | can we cnot cuss here? |
| 07:11.29 | smrtz|nix | not* |
| 07:11.35 | potatoceleron | it depends on how much pain you're in |
| 07:11.45 | smrtz|nix | idk what gpm is, so yes, it's exactly like that... |
| 07:11.47 | smrtz|nix | lol. |
| 07:12.14 | potatoceleron | if you use debian in text mode you'd enjoy it, it gives you a mouse cursor |
| 07:12.31 | smrtz|nix | miss0r1: sorry, I thought I was aloud to talk like the man I am. I'll sensor myself.. |
| 07:12.33 | potatoceleron | which makes it MUCH easier to copy and paste |
| 07:12.42 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: tmux, Terminal multiplexer |
| 07:12.52 | potatoceleron | exactly |
| 07:13.03 | smrtz|nix | what window manager are you using? check out bspwm, it's what I'm using, and the best. |
| 07:13.14 | miss0r1 | smrtz|nix, I really don't mind - but I know some OPs don't like that language. And It is nice to have people talking in here for once |
| 07:13.25 | potatoceleron | i'll look it up. i'm using icewm and pretty thrilled to be using it |
| 07:13.52 | smrtz|nix | miss0r1: thanks for the heads up. |
| 07:14.13 | potatoceleron | likes ice, lxde, evilwm, xfce and awesome |
| 07:14.21 | smrtz|nix | potatoceleron: I looked at that, don't know why I didn't like it, but I remember not liking it. |
| 07:14.35 | smrtz|nix | I used to use awesome, but configuring it was horrible.. |
| 07:14.36 | potatoceleron | under protest i will use jwm and fluxbox |
| 07:14.42 | miss0r1 | I used to use fluxbox. That was really nice |
| 07:14.54 | smrtz|nix | yeah, was fun. |
| 07:15.07 | potatoceleron | thinks fluxbox is not terrible, but the most overrated wm there is |
| 07:15.18 | smrtz|nix | I went from Gnome to flux so the menu was really nice as a transition. |
| 07:15.23 | miss0r1 | Now I use GNOME with the graphics turned down to a minimum. |
| 07:15.31 | smrtz|nix | then to awesome, then to a few others, and now I'm on bspwm. |
| 07:16.31 | smrtz|nix | wait, I think I have to reboot to test my sound now, brb... |
| 07:16.46 | miss0r1 | To me, and a lot of other linux users, it really doesn't matter much what you use on that part. Most of your work will be done from a console/terminal anyway |
| 07:16.51 | miss0r1 | k |
| 07:16.54 | *** join/#debian serverhorror (~serverhor@HSI-KBW-046-005-002-229.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 07:17.07 | potatoceleron | yeah but hen you have a few terms open, it matters where they go |
| 07:17.37 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 07:17.45 | miss0r1 | Sure I guess. I haven't thought alot about that - I just Alt+Tab |
| 07:18.02 | rryoumaa | it matters to me to have an autohide taskbar and an autohide gkrellm and to be able to maximize everything without decorations and cycle among them with scrollwheel on the taskbar. i suspect most cannot do all of those things. |
| 07:18.25 | potatoceleron | you'd be surprised |
| 07:18.49 | potatoceleron | alt+tab is one of the greatest combos ever |
| 07:18.51 | rryoumaa | if you know of which ones can do /all/ of those things i'd like to know :) |
| 07:19.06 | *** join/#debian NotJimCarrey (~notjimcar@c-24-16-196-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:19.43 | miss0r1 | Yay! I have now tweaked my G-code to a point where I can get this cheap chinese 3-axis CNC mill to do 96mm/min :D |
| 07:19.51 | potatoceleron | wow |
| 07:19.54 | potatoceleron | cool |
| 07:20.23 | potatoceleron | g-code... is that cnc instructions? |
| 07:20.51 | miss0r1 | if you want to use LinuxCNC(EMC2) it is |
| 07:20.59 | miss0r1 | other platforms use other code ect. |
| 07:20.59 | potatoceleron | aha |
| 07:21.07 | *** join/#debian fordcars_pi (~pi@modemcable101.170-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 07:21.13 | *** join/#debian FuuqUmiist (~FuuqUmiis@199-7-157-31.eng.wind.ca) |
| 07:21.13 | potatoceleron | wb |
| 07:21.34 | miss0r1 | he just left ;) |
| 07:21.41 | FuuqUmiist | is there a list of what USB headsets will work on Debian? |
| 07:21.50 | potatoceleron | was talking to ford but it's all good |
| 07:21.59 | miss0r1 | alright :) |
| 07:22.04 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 07:23.12 | potatoceleron | if wikipedia's "page not found" template starts offering to look up things on duckduckgo, i will give them money. |
| 07:23.12 | *** join/#debian babinlonston (~babinlons@117.213.36.255) |
| 07:23.20 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~andchat@24.114.41.60) |
| 07:23.33 | potatoceleron | because i like to look things up on wp first. least they can do is point me somewhere useful when it's not there |
| 07:23.45 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 07:23.59 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 07:24.45 | *** join/#debian pfdotn (~spooky@unaffiliated/pfdotn) |
| 07:24.50 | *** join/#debian LonelyDanbo (~Danbo@ts1-205.wnpg.interhop.net) |
| 07:25.13 | LonelyDanbo | ok, apparently CrunchBang is now running in the new 64bit machine. wow. the CPU fan is running really quiet compared to before. |
| 07:25.57 | LonelyDanbo | shit. it's 2:30am. maybe I should quit for today. I been at this for 7.5 hours. |
| 07:26.15 | FuuqUmiist | that sucks |
| 07:26.23 | *** join/#debian NotJimCarrey (~notjimcar@216.166.76.193) |
| 07:26.48 | potatoceleron | good luck LonelyDanbo -- hopefully the ice will break soon |
| 07:27.20 | *** join/#debian Perdu (~Perdu@213-245-89-190.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 07:27.21 | *** join/#debian sourcodec1 (~52a01f764@162.243.242.85) |
| 07:27.42 | LonelyDanbo | well, I bet YouTube videos run a lot better... assuming I don't need to install new video drivers which I probably do. |
| 07:28.07 | potatoceleron | maybe. x comes with a supply. |
| 07:28.22 | potatoceleron | dunno if you have hw accelleration |
| 07:28.41 | LonelyDanbo | I do, but I was running it on god knows what kind of ancient video card. |
| 07:29.15 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang (~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang) |
| 07:29.22 | potatoceleron | tseng orchid :) |
| 07:30.17 | potatoceleron | state of the art ISA bus svga |
| 07:30.30 | potatoceleron | in 1987 |
| 07:30.32 | LonelyDanbo | oh, is that your brand? |
| 07:30.38 | potatoceleron | no :) |
| 07:30.52 | *** join/#debian zepp^ (~zepp@53559781.cm-6-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 07:35.06 | *** join/#debian dave (~dave@222.127.85.202) |
| 07:35.19 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-129-163.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 07:35.33 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 07:35.49 | miss0r1 | I am curious as to if fordcars_pi has gotten his sound to work |
| 07:36.21 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@177.134.159.187) |
| 07:36.22 | *** join/#debian jarkko (~quassel@85-76-43-155-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 07:36.40 | *** join/#debian GuilhermeCunha (~guilherme@unaffiliated/guilhermecunha) |
| 07:37.28 | *** join/#debian massmc (~massmc@107.170.51.188) |
| 07:40.27 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 07:42.18 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 07:42.30 | FuuqUmiist | debian lxde should run find on a pentium 3 right? |
| 07:42.44 | *** join/#debian massmc (~massmc@107.170.51.188) |
| 07:42.46 | miss0r1 | lxde? |
| 07:42.58 | potatoceleron | miss0r1: was it ford? i thought it was smrt |
| 07:43.02 | miss0r1 | regular debian would have no problem running on a p3 |
| 07:43.09 | miss0r1 | hmm.. Can't remember now :) |
| 07:43.14 | FuuqUmiist | yeah the lxde desktop environment |
| 07:43.25 | potatoceleron | debian lxde WILL run on a pentium 3 (ram?) but icewm will run much better |
| 07:43.29 | *** join/#debian ayaz (~Ayaz@linuxpakistan/ayaz) |
| 07:43.51 | FuuqUmiist | potatoceleron why is that? i don't think there is a debian iso for that |
| 07:44.09 | potatoceleron | no, but lxde is a good place to start. you can install icewm from repo |
| 07:44.27 | *** join/#debian gnoid (~gnoid@85.26.183.3) |
| 07:44.38 | potatoceleron | x11 + icewm = about 30mb of ram... lxde should be more than that |
| 07:45.12 | LonelyDanbo | hahah. my sounds doesn't work on the new system. |
| 07:45.21 | LonelyDanbo | I went to the trouble of hooking up my speakers for nothing. |
| 07:45.22 | FuuqUmiist | i want it to be super fast but also practical in terms of usage |
| 07:45.29 | potatoceleron | LonelyDanbo: in crunch? |
| 07:45.32 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@adsl-dyn223.78-98-84.t-com.sk) |
| 07:45.32 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-129-163.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 07:45.33 | LonelyDanbo | yeah |
| 07:45.36 | potatoceleron | FuuqUmiist: so do i |
| 07:45.45 | LonelyDanbo | uh oh. I'm in enemy territory. ;) |
| 07:46.01 | *** join/#debian chrisirc (~chrisirc@static.206.51.47.78.clients.your-server.de) |
| 07:46.34 | chrisirc | Wondering: is there a way to start chromium (or iceweasel) in a way that tells it to use a separate process for every window? :~P |
| 07:46.43 | chrisirc | What I mean is: *really* be completely independent. |
| 07:47.03 | kanliot | you can do that in chromium and firefox |
| 07:47.06 | potatoceleron | chris: there is a nightly of firefox that does that, but it's so buggy you won't want to |
| 07:47.08 | *** join/#debian whirli (~whirli@91-145-75-232.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 07:47.25 | potatoceleron | unless it's gotten way better in like 3 months |
| 07:47.29 | chrisirc | Because in spite of whatever propaganda they make, the process model of Chromium does not help against needing to kill the whole instance every week or so. |
| 07:47.35 | *** join/#debian ariscop (~Phase4@2001:44b8:4196:e800:76e5:43ff:fe41:bfc9) |
| 07:47.43 | potatoceleron | every week? not bad |
| 07:47.54 | chrisirc | heh. |
| 07:48.09 | potatoceleron | you wont get that with firefox |
| 07:48.12 | chrisirc | Yeah and spending 1.5 GB RAM towards the end of every week. |
| 07:48.27 | potatoceleron | prefers firefox to chromium, but is realistic |
| 07:48.36 | chrisirc | I don't want them to share *anything* really. |
| 07:48.50 | chrisirc | I don't see why this is anything else than simply a startup option. |
| 07:49.01 | chrisirc | "don't connect to running instance, start a new one". |
| 07:49.08 | FuuqUmiist | yeah that's a good idea |
| 07:49.58 | potatoceleron | browser-like operating systems don't have time for sensible features |
| 07:50.02 | *** join/#debian moza (~moza@dynamic.1.16.34dbfd721d80.0236994134c.afb.bredband2.com) |
| 07:50.33 | potatoceleron | sensible features are boring. let's make it store bookmarks on a "moon-server" by "laser" |
| 07:50.36 | *** join/#debian intosh (~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl) |
| 07:51.34 | chrisirc | Yeah bookmark, history and cookie storage, and cache, could still be shared. The former are probably sqlite though, so no problem, the later well, no big deal? |
| 07:51.45 | *** join/#debian dreamon__ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 07:51.57 | potatoceleron | loves mozilla's (purported) mission but is soooooooo sick of them |
| 07:52.57 | potatoceleron | every day mozilla finds new exciting ways to suck more and more when they've just nailed down a way to suck less, but don't want to. |
| 07:53.13 | potatoceleron | before, they couldn't. now they just won't. |
| 07:54.03 | potatoceleron | to hell with them, and gecko. i get more done with xombrero and qupzilla and i swear less because of it |
| 07:55.17 | chrisirc | hm. |
| 07:55.24 | FuuqUmiist | i like firefox because of the add-ons and that it works on all webpages properly, if they didn't have that i would probably use midori |
| 07:55.40 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 07:55.50 | potatoceleron | the add-ons are the best part. no, they're the only good part. |
| 07:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1308] by debhelper |
| 07:56.03 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) |
| 07:56.15 | potatoceleron | greasemonkey is badass too |
| 07:56.30 | *** join/#debian yeticry (~yeticry@60.168.85.53) |
| 07:56.35 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@24-148-90-126.c3-0.arm-ubr1.chi-arm.il.cable.rcn.com) |
| 07:56.47 | FuuqUmiist | midori should just develop to make it compatible with firefox addons instead of coding every single thing, but they say they way to keep midori lightweight, fast and secure |
| 07:56.47 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) |
| 07:57.12 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 07:57.18 | potatoceleron | how will it be secure when the only people that use it are the people who don't care |
| 07:59.03 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 08:00.25 | *** join/#debian Arsenik (~Cyanure@81-65-97-92.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 08:00.34 | *** join/#debian sdkie (~chatzilla@175.100.138.19) |
| 08:01.08 | *** join/#debian kotrcka (~peter@ip-78-45-144-237.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 08:01.10 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-88-132-114-184.prtelecom.hu) |
| 08:01.12 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@a91-153-152-135.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 08:01.31 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 08:01.35 | *** join/#debian k4tZz (~nell@pool-173-79-17-44.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 08:01.44 | *** join/#debian Neptunia (~Sora-kun@unaffiliated/neptunia) |
| 08:01.55 | k4tZz | im trying to install qt4 |
| 08:02.06 | k4tZz | debian squeeze |
| 08:02.43 | k4tZz | how do I verify installation? The config script of a program that requires qt4 is complaining that Qt4 is not found |
| 08:03.01 | *** join/#debian makara (~makara@105-208-249-61.access.mtnbusiness.co.za) |
| 08:03.04 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 08:03.09 | wols | you need to install the -dev package for qt4 |
| 08:03.23 | wols | also, the configure script writes a log, which shows you what went wrong |
| 08:04.05 | k4tZz | qt4-dev-tools? |
| 08:04.08 | ShapeShifter499 | is there a such thing as a "auto dget"? where it will grab the latest sid or testing package via dget (or whatever) and build for me whenever there is a new package? |
| 08:04.09 | wols | k4tZz: apt-cache search qt4 | grep dev |
| 08:04.20 | wols | no. the one ending in -dev, not tools for the -dev package |
| 08:04.38 | wols | k4tZz: what debian version do you run? |
| 08:04.43 | *** part/#debian potatoceleron (4a41ac9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.65.172.158) |
| 08:04.50 | *** join/#debian calbasi (~joan@156.190.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 08:05.15 | ShapeShifter499 | I only want a few packages that are only in sid or testing and I rather not do any full or partial upgrade |
| 08:05.38 | k4tZz | wols debian squeeze |
| 08:05.42 | ChrisH | ShapeShifter499: check backports... /msg dpgk backports |
| 08:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1318] by debhelper |
| 08:06.02 | *** join/#debian [A3G1S] (~A3G1S]@182.69.109.74) |
| 08:06.20 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: some packages are not in backports (yet?) such as steam the last I checked |
| 08:09.38 | *** join/#debian deathleff (~duke@ip-84-119-106-217.unity-media.net) |
| 08:10.09 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@87-93-85-221.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 08:12.00 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.184.11.175) |
| 08:12.00 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 08:18.00 | us`0gb | Also Minetest. I tried getting the backport of that, but it wasn't available. Minetest is easy to compile though, so maybe it isn't needed in backports. |
| 08:18.55 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.184.11.175) |
| 08:18.55 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 08:20.15 | *** join/#debian dotDeb (~dotDeb@unaffiliated/dotdeb) |
| 08:20.25 | dotDeb | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:21.47 | us`0gb | Linux-libre tries to not recommend proprietary kernel modules, while Debian's kernel doesn't mind recommending these modules as long as tey are not included in main. |
| 08:22.37 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 08:22.49 | *** join/#debian LindyThing__ (~LindyThin@c-107-2-186-123.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 08:22.49 | dotDeb | but those kernel modules are not contained in the kernel itself, right? they're downloaded? |
| 08:22.57 | dotDeb | us`0gb |
| 08:23.40 | us`0gb | Yes, from what I understand, these proprietary modules are entirely separate and are in the non-free repo, not main. |
| 08:23.53 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-088-075-153-248.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 08:25.02 | trewas | dotDeb: linux-libre rips off anything that could be considered non-free with a lively imagination, debian is mostly aligned with the kernel upstream and takes an approach which leads to an usable kernel |
| 08:25.41 | us`0gb | With a lively imagination, huh? In what way? |
| 08:26.04 | us`0gb | has no idea all what Linux-libre removes |
| 08:26.13 | ChrisH | ShapeShifter499: you did read what the bot told you? "If unavailable"... |
| 08:26.16 | trewas | https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/03/msg00047.html |
| 08:26.42 | ShapeShifter499 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.52 | *** join/#debian AciD`` (~gni@jau72-5-78-223-56-21.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:26.57 | ShapeShifter499 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.01 | ShapeShifter499 | oops |
| 08:27.06 | ShapeShifter499 | damn space |
| 08:27.13 | ChrisH | ShapeShifter499: no blank at the ... exact :) |
| 08:27.42 | us`0gb | I'm not sure that URI really explained anything. |
| 08:28.06 | *** join/#debian maveas (~maveas@x1-6-10-0d-7f-a0-24-aa.cpe.webspeed.dk) |
| 08:28.07 | *** join/#debian maveas (~maveas@unaffiliated/maveas) |
| 08:28.39 | trewas | us`0gb: at least what the debian kernel team thinks of linux-libre |
| 08:28.56 | us`0gb | Ah, got it. |
| 08:29.04 | *** join/#debian Wug (Wug.b9a967@unaffiliated/wug) |
| 08:30.44 | *** join/#debian rmdashrf (~rmdashrf@rh-ip-1329-res.resnet.ucsd.edu) |
| 08:30.44 | *** join/#debian rmdashrf (~rmdashrf@unaffiliated/rmdashrf) |
| 08:31.41 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: the "simple sid backport"? |
| 08:31.51 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: that's not really automatic is it? |
| 08:32.09 | *** join/#debian pLk (~sherwood@xdslec248.osnanet.de) |
| 08:32.17 | ShapeShifter499 | I could go weeks without knowing there is a update in that case |
| 08:32.18 | ChrisH | ShapeShifter499: thats what I would try. the existing backports first and then backport myself |
| 08:32.47 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: I have already confirmed the packages I want are not in wheezy-backports |
| 08:34.43 | *** join/#debian koell (~galactica@77.119.130.40.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 08:36.48 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: is it possible to have apt-get tell me the location of a package's dsc file? |
| 08:37.31 | ShapeShifter499 | I could create a script that checks for a updated package from sid and attempt to build it using dget and the dsc file |
| 08:38.53 | *** join/#debian smrtz|nix (~smrtz@unaffiliated/smrtznix/x-9775867) |
| 08:39.09 | *** join/#debian harobed_ (~stephane-@equ57-1-78-235-121-109.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:39.25 | *** join/#debian arvind_k (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 08:39.31 | *** join/#debian traph (~traph@unaffiliated/traph) |
| 08:39.45 | smrtz|nix | miss0r1, I'm back. Sorry about that, my battery died. |
| 08:39.54 | *** join/#debian harobed_ (~stephane-@equ57-1-78-235-121-109.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:40.21 | ChrisH | ShapeShifter499: I have no idea. I approach would be, to check this page with a script/Nagios for changes: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/steam There you get the dsc file |
| 08:40.27 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host168-142-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:40.44 | smrtz|nix | Ok, after this reboot, it's saying I'm not in the sudoers file. I think I broke things by adding myself to the audio group... |
| 08:40.47 | ChrisH | ShapeShifter499: or http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/s/steam/ |
| 08:42.34 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: ah |
| 08:42.39 | smrtz|nix | how can I find out information about a user/ |
| 08:43.25 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: what kind of info? |
| 08:43.47 | smrtz|nix | the supplementary groups it's in. |
| 08:44.01 | nkuttler | supplementary? just use groups? |
| 08:44.21 | smrtz|nix | ahh thanks |
| 08:44.39 | *** join/#debian DoverMo (~FatherCat@adsl-107-204-89-213.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:45.00 | smrtz|nix | exit |
| 08:45.26 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: alright I'm going to do that |
| 08:45.30 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 08:45.34 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 08:46.38 | *** join/#debian djD3f (forsaken@ip70-185-165-219.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 08:46.42 | *** join/#debian smrtz|nix (~smrtz@unaffiliated/smrtznix/x-9775867) |
| 08:46.56 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: sorry though but what is nagios? |
| 08:47.54 | smrtz|nix | Can someone help me set up audio please? I've got alsa installed, and alsamixer works, but when I try to play a test sound, I get this output: http://pastebin.com/4htK8Kz6 |
| 08:48.04 | ChrisH | ShapeShifter499: a monitoring SW. easy to use way is http://omdistro.org/ |
| 08:48.22 | *** join/#debian Rubin_ (~Rubin@192.198.81.195) |
| 08:49.23 | *** join/#debian burn_ (~quassel@cl-1079.bru-01.be.sixxs.net) |
| 08:49.30 | *** join/#debian pexapor (~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu) |
| 08:49.32 | *** join/#debian suy_ (~quassel@roger.badopi.com) |
| 08:49.37 | *** join/#debian phunyguy_ (~vortex@unaffiliated/phunyguy) |
| 08:49.39 | *** join/#debian harrison_ (~quassel@li89-226.members.linode.com) |
| 08:49.39 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 08:49.42 | *** join/#debian virako_ (~quassel@ks27172.kimsufi.com) |
| 08:49.49 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com) |
| 08:49.49 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 08:50.09 | DoverMo | smrtz|nix, did u tri et wizout sudo? |
| 08:50.17 | *** join/#debian fantomix (phantom@unicorn.chsh.org) |
| 08:50.23 | smrtz|nix | DoverMo: yea. |
| 08:50.37 | smrtz|nix | same error. |
| 08:51.08 | ShapeShifter499 | ChrisH: thanks for the help |
| 08:51.10 | *** join/#debian [BNC]pagioss (pagioss@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-wsgorzzpxdmahjbw) |
| 08:51.19 | *** join/#debian hnsz2002_ (~hnsz2002@hercules.unreachable.hu) |
| 08:51.20 | *** join/#debian __alex_ (~alex@wisdom.tricnet.de) |
| 08:51.25 | *** join/#debian gusnan_ (~gusnan@81-230-126-193-no160.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 08:51.33 | *** join/#debian TBCOOL_ (~tb@c-2a91e555.09-273-73746f44.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 08:51.33 | *** join/#debian pawell_ (~pawelpek@student.agh.edu.pl) |
| 08:51.34 | *** join/#debian frikinz_ (~tee_bee@quinput.org) |
| 08:52.03 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: output of aplay -l ? |
| 08:52.05 | *** join/#debian acidchil1 (yesplz@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe96:1b54) |
| 08:52.05 | *** join/#debian d1b_ (~db@d1b.org) |
| 08:52.05 | *** join/#debian indieross (~indieross@ip72-208-197-85.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 08:52.32 | smrtz|nix | http://pastebin.com/tHM95rUf nkuttler |
| 08:53.53 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: i think alsa is trying to access the wrong device, try creating an /etc/asound.conf with http://paste.debian.net/86170/ |
| 08:54.09 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: thanks, give me a second please? |
| 08:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1333] by debhelper |
| 08:56.11 | *** join/#debian jaybe (~~@unaffiliated/jaybe) |
| 08:56.11 | *** join/#debian Dagger2 (~dagger@sawako.haruhi.eu) |
| 08:56.11 | *** join/#debian cRaNnK (~cRaNnK@2a01:4f8:a1:50::5555) |
| 08:56.11 | *** join/#debian Wig (Wug.b9a967@wuggl.es) |
| 08:56.15 | *** join/#debian frediz (~Fred@jor31-1-78-225-230-73.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:56.21 | *** join/#debian Wiktor (~Wiktor@2001:470:9a06::1) |
| 08:56.24 | *** join/#debian sdollins- (~sdollins@2001:4800:7812:514:4031:44de:ff05:3035) |
| 08:56.25 | *** join/#debian _jareth_ (~jareth_@2001:980:e1c0:1:219:66ff:fea0:a502) |
| 08:56.28 | *** join/#debian kRush (~kRush@unaffiliated/krush) |
| 08:56.29 | *** join/#debian TheRevery (fox@revthefox.co.uk) |
| 08:56.37 | *** join/#debian heinrich5991 (znc1@unaffiliated/heinrich5991) |
| 08:56.52 | *** join/#debian mavhk (~mavhc@cpc65310-basf8-2-0-cust204.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:56.55 | *** join/#debian neo1691 (~chatzilla@117.228.17.82) |
| 08:56.56 | *** join/#debian milligan (~milligan@voyage.vhost.usr.no) |
| 08:57.03 | *** join/#debian Guest90233 (RyanKnack@unaffiliated/ryanknack) |
| 08:57.12 | *** join/#debian blackjack_ (~BJ@5.175.139.37) |
| 08:57.13 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: now It's "playing" but there's no actual audio output. I'm hoping to get sound out of the intigrated spekers. |
| 08:57.16 | *** join/#debian jaami (~jaami@182.189.54.118) |
| 08:57.35 | *** join/#debian jepoy (~jepoy@208.75.10.50) |
| 08:57.45 | *** join/#debian shroud (gunnar@icinga/team/shroud) |
| 08:57.45 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: i'd guess something is muted.. try with alsamixer, F6, M channels, etc |
| 08:58.03 | nkuttler | if you have pulseaudio running, that bitch also tends to re-mute channels |
| 08:58.14 | neo1691 | Wow! Very lucky to join this channel, had reached its set capacity, had to wait almost ten minutes! |
| 08:58.19 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: that was my first guess. everythings unmuted, and max folume. |
| 08:58.45 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: I don't even have it installed. |
| 08:58.48 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: check both sound cards though, max out all channels + unmute. but yeah, could be speakers/cables |
| 08:59.02 | DoverMo | neo1691, the server is clogged with penguin stuff |
| 08:59.17 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: I did, and it's a laptop. |
| 08:59.29 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: use alsamixer |
| 08:59.43 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: I am. |
| 08:59.51 | smrtz|nix | everythings unmuted, and max volume. |
| 08:59.53 | neo1691 | penguin stuff, heard it for the first time! :) |
| 09:00.18 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: no idea then, but good luck :) |
| 09:00.42 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: lol, thanks. I'm looking at https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/X120e/Sid now, since I have the same audio driver. |
| 09:02.03 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 09:02.05 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-129-163.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 09:02.36 | *** join/#debian phikz (~phikz@user253.77-105-213.netatonce.net) |
| 09:02.36 | neo1691 | I installed xterm, and there are many odd things that I am facing with it. First cannot seem to copy paste anything in it using ctrl+shift+c/v! Also if I use weechat, pressing alt+1/2/3 is not switching the channels, instead, it is typing the ascii symbols! |
| 09:02.38 | *** join/#debian blSnoopy (~snoopy@miram.persei.mw.lg.virgo.supercluster.net) |
| 09:03.09 | *** join/#debian resixian (~akira@unaffiliated/resixian) |
| 09:03.13 | *** join/#debian brong_ (~brong@220-245-36-226.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:03.16 | *** join/#debian EugeneBndt (~mtrd@unaffiliated/waxon) |
| 09:03.38 | smrtz|nix | Nope, that only made it worse... |
| 09:03.40 | *** join/#debian oxful (~oxful@ppp046177163097.access.hol.gr) |
| 09:03.44 | *** join/#debian delluminatus (luke@2604:180::39bc:e05b) |
| 09:03.50 | *** join/#debian zymurgy (~zymurgy@li607-220.members.linode.com) |
| 09:04.10 | DoverMo | neo1691, i don't believe xtrem has ctlshift v support |
| 09:04.24 | *** join/#debian Terp_ (~Terp_@sygko.net) |
| 09:04.38 | *** join/#debian melter (~Melter@2001:4930:116:0:21c:c0ff:feef:eaf5) |
| 09:04.41 | *** join/#debian VidaLoca (~vidaloca_@89.45.100.238) |
| 09:05.01 | *** join/#debian the|herbivore (~pop059@pokey.atnf.csiro.au) |
| 09:05.19 | shingouz | neo1691: highlight with the mouse, point at the new position, middle click. done. |
| 09:05.21 | *** join/#debian bennabiy (~Thunderbi@24-181-55-79.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) |
| 09:05.57 | *** join/#debian ectospasm (~ectospasm@unaffiliated/ectospasm) |
| 09:06.01 | DoverMo | smrtz|nix, did you try it without the alsa-base.conf? |
| 09:06.16 | neo1691 | DoverMo: Okay, also the $TERM variable is set to xterm and tput colors reports 8. How can I set the colors to 256? Any help ? |
| 09:06.29 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: i have an x121e myself. if your app plays something is probably muted |
| 09:06.56 | neo1691 | shingouz: And if I happen to have a laptop with no middle mouse button? |
| 09:07.24 | nkuttler | neo1691: usually both buttons together act like middle click |
| 09:07.35 | *** join/#debian anudasanudasis (~anudasanu@54-18.207.85.static.bluetone.cz) |
| 09:07.39 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: I'm on an x130e, and I prommis you, it's not muted. |
| 09:08.02 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@ppp121-45-240-35.lns20.per2.internode.on.net) |
| 09:08.07 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 09:08.15 | *** join/#debian Umschwung (~Umschwung@unaffiliated/umschwung) |
| 09:08.26 | neo1691 | nkuttler: Thanks! any idea about the 256 color support? |
| 09:08.27 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: did you try with and without headphones? |
| 09:08.37 | smrtz|nix | I didn't try with... |
| 09:08.39 | smrtz|nix | sec. |
| 09:08.52 | DoverMo | neo1691, 3 bits sounds very scalable |
| 09:08.59 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: maybe if the driver is iffy for your specific card.. |
| 09:09.36 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: nothing with headphones. |
| 09:09.43 | smrtz|nix | I'm pretty sure it's just set up wrong... |
| 09:09.50 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~mezgani@41.249.100.4) |
| 09:10.26 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: do you have pulseaudio running? |
| 09:10.31 | neo1691 | DoverMo: Didn't get you sorry! |
| 09:12.17 | *** join/#debian rabeeh (~rabeeh@85-250-103-9.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 09:12.28 | smrtz|nix | I think it's trying to play to the wrong device, nkuttler. Here's my lspci -v, can you make sure that I'm outputting to my spekers, and not an hdmi port please?http://pastebin.com/FJNeqPrB |
| 09:12.35 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@92.109.90.61) |
| 09:12.39 | smrtz|nix | also no, pulseaudio isn't running. nkuttler |
| 09:12.55 | *** join/#debian Rob____ (~Robert_L@c-76-110-201-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 09:13.15 | *** join/#debian tengri (~alp@95.65.236.131) |
| 09:14.02 | *** join/#debian SweetMuffin (~BotaniCar@93-142-192-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 09:14.14 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@adsl-dyn223.78-98-84.t-com.sk) |
| 09:14.32 | *** join/#debian Left_Turn (~Left_Turn@unaffiliated/turn-left/x-3739067) |
| 09:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1301] by debhelper |
| 09:16.18 | *** join/#debian bal (~Thunderbi@2a02:6e00:1:3:a847:878a:6291:bf74) |
| 09:16.37 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: do you want my aplay -l or -L output too |
| 09:16.39 | smrtz|nix | ? |
| 09:18.29 | *** join/#debian killian99 (~killian99@jol13-4-78-235-25-248.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:20.12 | *** part/#debian babinlonston (~babinlons@117.213.36.255) |
| 09:20.22 | nkuttler | smrtz|nix: nah, no clue |
| 09:20.33 | *** join/#debian cornair (~chris@03337-1.kunden.mk-netzdienste.de) |
| 09:20.37 | *** join/#debian Togusa (~Alessandr@pdpc/supporter/student/togusa) |
| 09:20.44 | smrtz|nix | damn. |
| 09:21.22 | *** join/#debian vurma (~kimchi@nl109-141-178.student.uu.se) |
| 09:22.06 | *** join/#debian kayamm (~km@unaffiliated/kayamm) |
| 09:22.09 | DoverMo | neo1691, i'm guessing debian doesn't have those colors enabled by default |
| 09:22.22 | *** join/#debian berarma (~berarma@181.130.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 09:22.48 | neo1691 | DoverMo: Yes, the arch wiki helped me, I was supposed to use the Xresources for that :) |
| 09:22.58 | DoverMo | neo1691, oh |
| 09:23.11 | DoverMo | neo1691, apparently you can write your own file if you want |
| 09:23.28 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 09:26.00 | *** join/#debian eniac_petrov_ (~quassel@91.196.224.231) |
| 09:26.41 | shingouz | neo1691: as long as you can get TERM=xterm-256color set somehow, you're good to go |
| 09:28.00 | *** join/#debian Scall (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) |
| 09:28.15 | *** join/#debian joserizal (~joserizal@bas2-toronto35-2925508226.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 09:29.41 | *** join/#debian cantoma (~jduro@cpc4-bath5-2-0-cust199.aztw.cable.virginm.net) |
| 09:30.56 | *** join/#debian dcarped (~dcarped@109.128.197.62) |
| 09:33.17 | *** join/#debian sdkie (~chatzilla@175.100.138.19) |
| 09:33.19 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~Esqueje@62.83.47.190.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 09:33.19 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~Esqueje@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 09:34.20 | *** join/#debian Holo-phil (~quassel@thefizz-195.wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) |
| 09:34.31 | *** join/#debian Kiryx (~Kiryx@109.231.18.110) |
| 09:35.21 | smrtz|nix | Anyone want to help me with alsa? I think it's playing to the wrong device... |
| 09:35.48 | *** join/#debian cypherdial (~cypherdia@64.229.242.14) |
| 09:36.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1309] by debhelper |
| 09:39.47 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@200-149-218-105.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 09:39.48 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 09:40.08 | *** part/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 09:41.35 | *** join/#debian max (~max@82.Red-88-9-0.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:43.41 | smrtz|nix | nkuttler: can you use lspci -v and tell me what kernel driver you're using for your soundcard please? |
| 09:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1303] by debhelper |
| 09:46.36 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 09:46.47 | *** join/#debian koell (~galactica@77.119.130.40.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 09:48.33 | *** join/#debian kkvlk_ (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 09:49.19 | *** join/#debian buff_ (~buff@198.206.15.207) |
| 09:50.17 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@177.18.198.165) |
| 09:50.35 | *** join/#debian sbine (~sbine@tra78-6-88-186-13-233.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:51.56 | *** join/#debian MrDoge (~MrDoge@183.87.220.153) |
| 09:52.40 | *** join/#debian Streusel (~Anonymous@unaffiliated/streusel) |
| 09:53.36 | *** join/#debian Dartus (~DART@a242201.upc-a.chello.nl) |
| 09:54.21 | *** join/#debian ||oop (oop@c-68-80-152-235.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 09:54.33 | *** join/#debian ikparadox (~ikparadox@31.176.184.13) |
| 09:54.54 | *** join/#debian Yeowang (~weechat@unaffiliated/jellicent) |
| 09:55.01 | *** join/#debian ikparadox (~ikparadox@unaffiliated/ikparadox) |
| 09:56.14 | *** join/#debian neo1691 (~chatzilla@117.228.68.84) |
| 09:57.36 | *** join/#debian arjun_ (~arjun@122.165.225.85) |
| 09:59.36 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 10:01.16 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 10:01.51 | *** join/#debian hammad_ (uid14825@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pxiizxpftvpqvvmc) |
| 10:02.22 | *** join/#debian GJ_ (~Thunderbi@88.159.173.192) |
| 10:03.28 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 10:03.37 | *** join/#debian assurbanipal (~nikolas@2a02:810a:8b40:d0c:6ef0:49ff:fe08:57f7) |
| 10:03.49 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 10:04.48 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 10:05.24 | *** join/#debian spinningcompass (~spinningc@99-120-205-106.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1315] by debhelper |
| 10:07.11 | *** join/#debian arjun_ (~arjun@122.165.225.85) |
| 10:08.33 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@89-156-115-191.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 10:11.23 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 10:11.33 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@put92-h04-212-194-144-131.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 10:11.33 | *** join/#debian relix (~relix@91.46.46.176.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 10:12.43 | *** join/#debian useragent (~useragent@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 10:13.04 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@put92-h04-212-194-144-131.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 10:13.04 | *** join/#debian iKb (~iKb@151.54.71.180) |
| 10:15.05 | *** join/#debian neo1691 (~chatzilla@117.228.8.142) |
| 10:15.15 | neo1691 | Can I use compiz and i3 together, or I can use only one of the two? (silly question) |
| 10:16.23 | trewas | neo1691: you can only use one window manager at the time, so no |
| 10:17.06 | *** join/#debian zcoldplayer (~pritvi@197.226.54.49) |
| 10:18.54 | *** join/#debian brightki1l (~brightkil@185.3.32.167) |
| 10:19.18 | neo1691 | trewas: That's what I was thinking! :) |
| 10:19.23 | *** join/#debian clentz (~clentz@cpe-76-185-190-12.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 10:20.04 | clentz | can anyone help me with an apt / dpkg problem? I've had debian installed for like an hour, and somehow i've already gotten myself into a pickle. |
| 10:20.21 | ChrisH | !ask |
| 10:20.21 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 10:20.35 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@static.77.46.9.176.clients.your-server.de) |
| 10:20.51 | *** join/#debian brightki1l (~brightkil@185.3.32.167) |
| 10:20.59 | DoverMo | clentz, le |
| 10:21.01 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-181-164-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 10:21.04 | DoverMo | clentz, wee |
| 10:21.58 | clentz | If I run the command: apt-get purge libapache2-mod-parser3 libapache2-mod-rivet libapache2-mod-rpaf |
| 10:22.03 | clentz | I get this output: |
| 10:22.11 | clentz | http://pastebin.com/dRmSdqb3 |
| 10:22.31 | clentz | If I run apt-get install -f, the output is pretty much the same. |
| 10:22.32 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~andchat@24.114.41.60) |
| 10:22.40 | clentz | If I run apt-get anything, the output is pretty much the same. |
| 10:22.44 | clentz | And same with dpkg. |
| 10:22.45 | *** join/#debian GeekMan1222_Desk (~Matt@75-143-252-99.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) |
| 10:22.55 | clentz | I've been googling this for over an hour, and my mind is just boggled |
| 10:23.15 | clentz | I can't install these packages. I can't remove them. I can't autoremove them. I can't purge them. I can't reinstall them. |
| 10:23.22 | clentz | I just don't know what is going on. |
| 10:23.54 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 10:24.03 | clentz | Anybody have any clue? |
| 10:24.25 | DoverMo | clentz, did you look in /etc/init.d ? |
| 10:24.41 | clentz | I remember running some command to remove apache from init.d or something |
| 10:24.44 | clentz | one moment |
| 10:25.00 | *** join/#debian lord4163 (~lord4163@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 10:25.03 | clentz | well shoot, maybe not |
| 10:25.06 | ChrisH | clentz: 1. the command is missing 2. please use paste.debian.org |
| 10:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1325] by debhelper |
| 10:26.24 | clentz | rm /etc/init.d/apache2 |
| 10:26.28 | clentz | did not fix the problem. |
| 10:27.41 | *** join/#debian DarkEnergy (~DarkEnerg@unaffiliated/darkenergy) |
| 10:27.41 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~Shiva@unaffiliated/lordshiva) |
| 10:27.52 | *** join/#debian tcpman (~tcpman@85-220-51-118.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 10:27.55 | DoverMo | this is what we get for using sysv.. |
| 10:28.13 | *** join/#debian skoota (~skoota@183.17.139.101) |
| 10:28.28 | clentz | ChrisH: wait, what was that about a missing command? |
| 10:29.09 | *** join/#debian fikst (~fikst@2a02:1810:3813:2b00:b9dd:f497:fd0c:89fb) |
| 10:29.26 | ChrisH | clentz: in your paste the full command is missing and I will not check again pastebin as this page plays unasked audio stuff |
| 10:29.36 | *** join/#debian DarkEnergy (~DarkEnerg@unaffiliated/darkenergy) |
| 10:29.36 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~Shiva@unaffiliated/lordshiva) |
| 10:30.05 | *** join/#debian nagarkot (~nagarkot_@74.46.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 10:30.16 | DoverMo | clentz, try logging in and out |
| 10:30.26 | clentz | http://paste.debian.net/86178/ |
| 10:30.41 | clentz | DoverMo: I've already done a full system reboot. |
| 10:30.42 | *** join/#debian beboj (~beboj@c83-251-127-25.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 10:30.45 | clentz | It didn't solve anything |
| 10:31.21 | *** join/#debian DarkEnergy (~DarkEnerg@unaffiliated/darkenergy) |
| 10:31.21 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~Shiva@unaffiliated/lordshiva) |
| 10:31.29 | *** join/#debian statu (~statu@164.176.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 10:32.35 | DoverMo | clentz, you tried it with just 'remove' ? |
| 10:32.37 | ChrisH | clentz: still the command missing you executed. apt complains about startup script missing, you at least need to create a dummy one like: touch /etc/init.d/apache2 ; chmod +x /etc/init.d/apache2 ; |
| 10:32.53 | DoverMo | ^^^ |
| 10:32.55 | clentz | DoverMo: I've tried remove. autoremove. Install. Reinstall. Purge. |
| 10:32.57 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@ppp121-45-246-170.lns20.per2.internode.on.net) |
| 10:32.59 | clentz | and a few other things |
| 10:33.08 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 10:33.16 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DD8DAC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:33.25 | ChrisH | the few other things like random rm did not improve the situation |
| 10:33.57 | *** join/#debian wilmaaaah (~wilmaaaah@brln-4d0c45b0.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:34.48 | clentz | http://paste.debian.net/86179/ |
| 10:34.53 | clentz | after running the touch and chmod |
| 10:35.27 | dotDeb | huh. xubuntu is smaller than debian+xfce |
| 10:35.32 | dotDeb | anyone know why? |
| 10:35.46 | *** join/#debian Aristide (~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69) |
| 10:35.47 | clentz | Oh, i'm sorry, I guess that last one is a success, not an error. |
| 10:37.10 | *** join/#debian kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) |
| 10:37.34 | DoverMo | dotDeb, depends on the builds |
| 10:37.40 | dotDeb | ah ok |
| 10:37.57 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@144.Red-95-123-56.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:37.57 | DoverMo | dotDeb, ubuntu, isn't based on debian-xfce |
| 10:38.51 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 10:38.57 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 10:39.02 | dotDeb | ah |
| 10:39.14 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@178.21.91.108) |
| 10:39.38 | LordShiva | Guys does anyone of you have problem that skype is killing its Xsession. So whenever I get a call on skype and I answer the xserver crashes, actually restarts xsession. My skype version is 4.2.0.11 the latest is 4.2.0.13 does upgrading fix the issue or something else is problem. |
| 10:39.42 | ChrisH | clentz: what is so difficult to understand that the command you execute MUST be included? I asked each time |
| 10:41.29 | clentz | ..... |
| 10:41.35 | clentz | I ran the command you told me to run |
| 10:41.40 | clentz | and then confirmed it by saying |
| 10:41.45 | LordShiva | My xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/fsPTd7NU |
| 10:41.46 | clentz | this is the output of the touch and chmod command |
| 10:41.53 | clentz | I'm sorry if that isn't clear enough |
| 10:42.02 | *** join/#debian skyflash (~skyflash@catv-176-63-90-137.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 10:42.07 | *** join/#debian yeticry (~yeticry@60.168.85.53) |
| 10:42.38 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) |
| 10:42.38 | *** join/#debian bigterd (~bigterd@107.27.82.230) |
| 10:44.02 | bigterd | currently running i686/32bit, scored an amd64bit, question is it worth the hassle to move reinstall debian as 64bit just for mdadm/nfs/samba? 1.8 to 2.4ghz is a jump, but is 2.4/64 a whole lot faster then 2.4/32? |
| 10:44.16 | dotDeb | did i hear correctly that debian might switch to xfce as default in the next release? |
| 10:44.28 | bigterd | guess i'd rather ask instead of taking a chance of killing the array, no backups and i don't have extra empty HDD's laying around |
| 10:44.46 | ChrisH | clentz: No. that was the output from apt* command. And we all want to see the command AND the output. and please add the output and command from lsb_release -a |
| 10:45.52 | bigterd | i guess the better question is will mdadm benefit greatly from 64bit, or is it even 64bit written? |
| 10:46.21 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~Shiva@unaffiliated/lordshiva) |
| 10:46.23 | *** join/#debian DarkEnergy (~DarkEnerg@unaffiliated/darkenergy) |
| 10:46.32 | *** join/#debian neo1691 (~chatzilla@117.237.162.238) |
| 10:46.32 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@broadband-109-173-63-26.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 10:47.45 | jelly-home | bigterd: mdadm works in kernel space. To gain any hypothetical benefits there, you'd merely have to boot a 64bit kernel with 32bit compatibility, the rest of the system needn't change |
| 10:47.54 | *** join/#debian useall (~lb@2001:0:53aa:64c:3890:17f1:d1b6:503c) |
| 10:48.11 | *** join/#debian bluesm (uid13438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmundawafzxulpcf) |
| 10:48.20 | jelly-home | bigterd: good thing debian packages such a kernel already, just install linux-image-amd64 |
| 10:49.15 | jelly-home | bigterd: I don't think you'd see any noticeable difference though. |
| 10:49.33 | bigterd | jelly-home: raid6 on 6x3tb |
| 10:49.44 | bigterd | i was looking towards parity checks. |
| 10:50.35 | bigterd | i'll switch motherboards, but oddly i'm too lazy to download/install/etc to the pen drive. |
| 10:50.42 | jelly-home | right, as said, you don't have to reinstall to check whether the algos in a 64bit kernel would save a bit of cpu |
| 10:51.26 | bigterd | jelly-home: just wasn't sure if a 32bit userland would hinder a 64bit kernel |
| 10:51.54 | *** join/#debian Umschwung (~Umschwung@unaffiliated/umschwung) |
| 10:52.12 | jelly-home | it basically Just Works |
| 10:52.53 | jelly-home | (with a few tiny exceptions; 32bit virtualbox commands still don't work with a 64bit kernel I think) |
| 10:54.00 | bigterd | i figured they were near identical with a few exceptions. i'm headless, ssh/raid/samba/nfs, and was curious if mdadm has special 64bit sourcecode. i couldn't find anything with 30 seconds of googling. |
| 10:54.08 | bigterd | maybe a full minute i would of found something. |
| 10:54.32 | bigterd | regarless, thanks. |
| 10:54.36 | *** join/#debian litenn (~neige@unaffiliated/litenn) |
| 10:54.52 | *** join/#debian glibberfisch (~glibberfi@aftr-37-24-144-34.unity-media.net) |
| 10:54.55 | bigterd | busts open beer @ 6am and opens new fedex box |
| 10:55.47 | bigterd | see how growing works on 9 sata drives |
| 10:55.59 | *** part/#debian litenn (~neige@unaffiliated/litenn) |
| 10:56.02 | *** join/#debian magnetophon (~bart@83.163.205.75) |
| 10:56.05 | *** join/#debian grobda24-ghost (~grobda24-@host86-129-207-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:56.23 | *** join/#debian dave (~dave@112.198.178.209) |
| 10:56.42 | *** join/#debian charl_ (~charl@2001:610:1908:2000:f0e5:36de:d26e:f5d9) |
| 10:57.12 | *** part/#debian glibberfisch (~glibberfi@aftr-37-24-144-34.unity-media.net) |
| 10:57.16 | *** join/#debian litenn (~litenn@unaffiliated/litenn) |
| 10:57.34 | *** join/#debian horsik_ (~username@178-37-110-109.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 10:57.35 | Guest90506 | "/msg dpkg guidelines". |
| 10:58.03 | *** join/#debian gandaliter (~toby@zone2.jesus.cam.ac.uk) |
| 10:59.24 | *** join/#debian pfdotn (~spooky@unaffiliated/pfdotn) |
| 11:00.03 | *** join/#debian utug12 (~dave@112.198.178.209) |
| 11:00.43 | bigterd | question , i'm assuming this https://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit doesn't apply to me? i just grub the other kernel? |
| 11:01.05 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD620FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:02.02 | jelly-home | bigterd: yes. |
| 11:02.15 | bigterd | gracious |
| 11:02.30 | jelly-home | that page describes a hackish approach and is outdated |
| 11:02.31 | *** join/#debian [A3G1S] (~A3G1S]@182.68.149.113) |
| 11:02.47 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 11:02.54 | bigterd | jelly-home: 10-4 |
| 11:03.56 | bigterd | and good thing i asked here, the link at the top that says click here as this is outdated, won't allow anonymous viewing, ha. |
| 11:04.37 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 11:05.29 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 11:07.21 | *** join/#debian xgoo (~xgoo@114.79.16.38) |
| 11:07.25 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@94.191.189.116.bredband.3.dk) |
| 11:07.58 | *** join/#debian MaddinXx_ (~racksteri@2a01:2a8:8803:a201:79a4:226f:eb30:d15a) |
| 11:08.25 | *** join/#debian xgoo (~xgoo@114.79.19.38) |
| 11:09.01 | *** join/#debian Streusel_ (~Anonymous@S01061859334846a2.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 11:09.03 | *** join/#debian AivarasK (~aivaras@cpc6-leic16-2-0-cust425.8-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 11:09.58 | *** join/#debian nihilista (~nihilista@234-51.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 11:10.44 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@94.191.189.116.bredband.3.dk) |
| 11:10.49 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@188-67-235-225.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 11:10.51 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 11:11.30 | *** join/#debian bullone (~user@host-73.20-14-119.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw) |
| 11:11.44 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 11:14.53 | *** join/#debian lebb (~bnsmith@2001:4958:87e:759b:226:18ff:fe2c:4742) |
| 11:16.51 | *** join/#debian neo1691 (~chatzilla@117.231.139.247) |
| 11:16.52 | *** join/#debian bullone (~user@host-73.20-14-119.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw) |
| 11:17.01 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 11:21.06 | *** join/#debian rojem (~rojem@pool-173-48-164-175.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 11:21.10 | Togusa | did any of you guys ever used a USB vga? and what was your experience with it? |
| 11:25.49 | dutchfish | Togusa, i did once, my outcome did vary, if you ar eplanning to build a killer gaming machine, forget it, but for an avarage multiseat computer it is atractive to do so |
| 11:26.14 | dutchfish | (3th world projects) |
| 11:26.31 | Togusa | well i don't game on linux, i just wanted to add another monitor |
| 11:26.39 | dutchfish | sorry for the offtopic |
| 11:26.48 | Togusa | is it a pain to setup? did it work out of the box? |
| 11:27.32 | dutchfish | Togusa, back then it was hard to harness it, maybe software came up to steam now, i didnt take a look at it for quiet a while |
| 11:28.30 | *** join/#debian halothe23 (~halothe23@unaffiliated/halothe23) |
| 11:28.32 | *** join/#debian earth (~earth@178-221-72-212.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 11:29.01 | dutchfish | Togusa, since i did find better ways for a multiseat computer |
| 11:29.53 | Togusa | dutchfish: are you talking about windows or linux? |
| 11:29.59 | dutchfish | linux |
| 11:30.27 | Togusa | dutchfish: did you have troubles setting it up? do you remember the model you were using? |
| 11:31.35 | dutchfish | Togusa, this is getting to much offtopic, joun #debian-offtopic for further if you want |
| 11:32.12 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 11:32.15 | shovel_boss | plz help |
| 11:32.19 | shovel_boss | how do i remove http://pastebin.com/tvKmAXLW |
| 11:32.24 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@ppp-94-69-84-250.home.otenet.gr) |
| 11:32.52 | Togusa | why is it offtopic? i'm asking for advice about usb VGAs |
| 11:32.56 | Togusa | on debian |
| 11:33.03 | Togusa | :P |
| 11:33.29 | Togusa | you are going offtopic, i just asked if you had troubles and what kind of model you were using |
| 11:34.24 | dutchfish | Togusa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2OCKRh-3ko |
| 11:34.35 | dutchfish | Togusa, http://plugable.com/products/uga-2k-a |
| 11:34.56 | dutchfish | not specially debian related |
| 11:34.57 | shovel_boss | plz help |
| 11:35.15 | shovel_boss | how do i remove fglrx 12.6 |
| 11:35.49 | dutchfish | shovel_boss, http://linuxg.net/how-to-properly-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers-on-debian-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/ |
| 11:36.46 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@host-244.8-234-182.cable.dynamic.kbtelecom.net) |
| 11:36.51 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@90-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) |
| 11:36.57 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 11:37.02 | dutchfish | Togusa, i am not going anywhere, but please respect the channel topic |
| 11:38.06 | *** join/#debian BackEndCoder (BackEndCod@2a01:348:329:0:f578:9032:9493:5c3e) |
| 11:38.07 | Togusa | dutchfish: whatever. i just asked if you had any weird trouble when you set your device up on debian. still got no answer. and you linked me a bunch of videos. let's stop here :) |
| 11:38.35 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-44c537b4.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 11:38.49 | dutchfish | Togusa, fine, i just wanted to point out that there is no canned solution that i am aware off for doing this in debian |
| 11:39.15 | dutchfish | Togusa, but it can be done |
| 11:40.39 | *** join/#debian Wolfie293 (~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) |
| 11:41.18 | *** join/#debian hick (529bd77f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.155.215.127) |
| 11:41.21 | *** join/#debian HelloShitty (~HelloShit@se-217-129-91-61.netvisao.pt) |
| 11:42.13 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 11:42.23 | shovel_boss | dutchfish, thanks m8 it worked |
| 11:42.48 | *** join/#debian tryagain (~tryagain@178.216.76.15) |
| 11:43.15 | *** join/#debian serjsj (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 11:43.17 | *** join/#debian c4pr1 (~c4pr1@2a01:e35:8adc:92c0:985d:a1a1:afcd:8e1) |
| 11:44.38 | *** join/#debian relix (~relix@91.46.46.176.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 11:46.07 | *** join/#debian mamtina (~ms@unaffiliated/ms/x-1374511) |
| 11:46.15 | mamtina | hi ! |
| 11:46.21 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 11:46.46 | *** part/#debian buff_ (~buff@198.206.15.207) |
| 11:47.07 | *** join/#debian Engys (~engys@p5DDB06FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:47.49 | mamtina | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport www -j DROP |
| 11:48.10 | mamtina | and I can still connect to the net, |
| 11:48.11 | mamtina | I just start with iptables, and the language too :/ |
| 11:50.06 | *** join/#debian killbillkill (~bill@46.246.212.169.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 11:50.20 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 11:50.29 | woshty | Is there a way to go from x86 to amd64 without a reinstall? |
| 11:51.11 | wols | woshty: no |
| 11:51.49 | dutchfish | woshty, not if you have not planned for multiarch |
| 11:52.10 | *** join/#debian assurbanipal (~nikolas@2a02:810a:8b40:d0c:6ef0:49ff:fe08:57f7) |
| 11:52.15 | woshty | wols: hoped that multiarched would have been designed with that in mind :) |
| 11:52.19 | woshty | dutchfish: meaning? |
| 11:52.38 | dutchfish | woshty, you likely mess it up removing the old arch |
| 11:52.45 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@90-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) |
| 11:52.49 | dutchfish | woshty, after going multiarch |
| 11:53.08 | woshty | dutchfish: hmm |
| 11:53.12 | woshty | ok, thanks |
| 11:53.45 | *** join/#debian DaKnOb (~daknob@dsl-aauwco.dyn.edudsl.gr) |
| 11:54.02 | dutchfish | woshty, its just simpeler to reinstall after making a backup of your current install base |
| 11:54.12 | DaKnOb | Hi guise! I need your help here.. Must make a decision real quick |
| 11:54.28 | DaKnOb | Can you tell me the advantages of debian versus arch for a server? |
| 11:54.39 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@178.21.91.53) |
| 11:55.40 | dutchfish | !tell DaKnOb whydebian |
| 11:55.41 | *** join/#debian Darryl (~Darryl@183.87.220.153) |
| 11:56.43 | DaKnOb | I've looked over the Interwebs but I need to make a report and I want to see if I forget something |
| 11:57.31 | *** join/#debian arun (~arun@49.244.218.151) |
| 11:58.55 | *** join/#debian zxq9 (~ceverett@FL9-125-199-207-150.okn.mesh.ad.jp) |
| 11:59.06 | *** join/#debian TuxFighter (TuxFighter@pD9E12C9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:00.01 | *** join/#debian NotJimCarrey (~notjimcar@216.166.76.193) |
| 12:00.12 | WormFood | I'm drawing a mental blank. What was the aptitude command to make the removal of one package not uninstall all the other packages automatically installed, that are not dependent upon the package I want to uninstall? (I installed gnome-core, and I want to remove gdm3 and gnome-core, but not all the packages that depend on gnome-core, except gdm3) |
| 12:00.38 | *** join/#debian Yeowang (~weechat@unaffiliated/jellicent) |
| 12:01.03 | *** join/#debian rayq (~zukeprime@pdpc/supporter/active/zukeprime) |
| 12:01.10 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 12:01.44 | dutchfish | WormFood, sudo dpkg -r --force-depends "package" ? |
| 12:01.49 | *** part/#debian DaKnOb (~daknob@dsl-aauwco.dyn.edudsl.gr) |
| 12:02.10 | dutchfish | WormFood, i dont believe aptitude can do this |
| 12:02.20 | WormFood | thanks dutchfish. I'll give it a shot |
| 12:02.34 | dutchfish | yw |
| 12:02.35 | WormFood | I was wondering about that. I thought I had done it in the past with aptitude, but maybe it was dpkg |
| 12:02.45 | *** join/#debian frikinz (~tee_bee@quinput.org) |
| 12:03.00 | dutchfish | could be, but i dont now either doing it with aptiude |
| 12:03.11 | dutchfish | s/aptiude/aptitude |
| 12:03.37 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 12:04.00 | WormFood | yeah, that worked perfectly. |
| 12:04.03 | dutchfish | ;) |
| 12:04.33 | *** join/#debian EDFOU10 (~EDFOU10@213.140.59.8) |
| 12:04.41 | *** part/#debian yashi (~yashi@yashi.org) |
| 12:04.53 | WormFood | I had recently had to work with some of those options to get debian installed...real pain in the ass....the powerpc network installer is busted....after fighting with it for a few hours, I was able to manually install enough packages, to get debootstrap to finish the 2nd stage |
| 12:04.59 | *** part/#debian EDFOU10 (~EDFOU10@213.140.59.8) |
| 12:05.11 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@183.17.189.183) |
| 12:05.19 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host168-142-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:05.25 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:06.58 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@5ec34299.skybroadband.com) |
| 12:07.11 | *** join/#debian shinnya (~shinnya@253.118.111.219.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 12:09.16 | *** join/#debian martin-_-_ (~martin___@chello080109116052.4.15.vie.surfer.at) |
| 12:10.54 | *** join/#debian ex-parrot (~ex-parrot@116-90-136-82.static.dsl.unleash.net.nz) |
| 12:11.11 | *** join/#debian rabeeh (~rabeeh@93-173-134-228.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 12:11.36 | dutchfish | WormFood, i probably have to do the same drill soon, good to know |
| 12:12.03 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 12:13.41 | jelly-home | dutchfish: where do you even find those ppc machines |
| 12:13.57 | dutchfish | jelly-home, i have still 188 high end ppc running on squeeze |
| 12:14.08 | jelly-home | macs? |
| 12:14.13 | dutchfish | jelly-home, yes |
| 12:15.35 | dutchfish | jeekl, ppc powermac's to be precise |
| 12:15.49 | dutchfish | oops, that was for jelly-home sorry |
| 12:15.58 | *** join/#debian TvL2386 (~tom@2001:1af8:fe5e:0:fcbd:1171:276:6567) |
| 12:16.36 | dutchfish | at least as long as old-stable gets support |
| 12:17.28 | *** join/#debian bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@80.30.237.111) |
| 12:17.59 | WormFood | dutchfish, it looks like I spoke too soon. Now when I want to use aptitude, it wants to uninstall all the packages that were automatically installed, now that their parent dependency is gone. How do I prevent this? |
| 12:18.14 | *** join/#debian Namaskar (~Namaskr@host86-164-132-108.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:19.03 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFF102.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:19.23 | *** join/#debian whirli (~whirli@91-145-75-232.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 12:20.02 | dutchfish | WormFood, either you reinstall the package, or make an equiv |
| 12:21.36 | dutchfish | WormFood, http://eric.lubow.org/2010/system-administration/creating-dummy-packages-on-debian/ |
| 12:21.37 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@p5B0F41A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:22.52 | dutchfish | WormFood, you milage may vary depending on what you want next |
| 12:23.00 | *** join/#debian Scall (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) |
| 12:23.09 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:24.04 | *** join/#debian proxy1 (25e71653@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.231.22.83) |
| 12:25.00 | *** part/#debian proxy1 (25e71653@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.231.22.83) |
| 12:25.03 | *** join/#debian proxy1 (25e71653@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.231.22.83) |
| 12:25.07 | *** join/#debian kayamm (~km@unaffiliated/kayamm) |
| 12:25.42 | WormFood | I remember seeing a different solution. I thought it was a config file change for aptitude, but it's been so long I don't remember |
| 12:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1333] by debhelper |
| 12:26.43 | proxy1 | Hello, I was using aptitude through SSH session which got disconnected by mistake, I started a new session and aptitude is still running. How can I bring aptitude from the disconnected session to my current SSH session? |
| 12:27.21 | *** join/#debian disarone (~disa@xdsl-84-44-129-142.netcologne.de) |
| 12:27.29 | *** join/#debian magnetophon (~bart@a83-163-205-75.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 12:28.43 | dutchfish | WormFood, yes, i sometimes miss the base-config for that |
| 12:28.52 | proxy1 | http://i.imgur.com/6b1wVcL.jpg |
| 12:28.52 | ChrisH | proxy1: unless you did use screen before, there is no way known to me |
| 12:29.39 | proxy1 | I see. So I have to pidof aptitude | xargs kill it, and restart working... |
| 12:29.43 | WormFood | the only way it should be running, is if he did use screen, or nohup (or something else that acts the same) |
| 12:29.46 | proxy1 | Thanks. |
| 12:30.06 | WormFood | learn how to use screen, and you won't have these types of problems |
| 12:30.08 | dutchfish | WormFood, have you checked tasksel ? |
| 12:30.15 | WormFood | no dutchfish |
| 12:31.24 | *** join/#debian fcp13 (~fcp13@a95-93-80-161.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 12:31.40 | *** join/#debian eb0t (~ebot@2.122.114.165) |
| 12:31.47 | fcp13 | hia, how can i restore my full display of plasma-widget-networkmanagement |
| 12:31.49 | fcp13 | ? |
| 12:31.53 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 12:31.59 | eb0t | hey i can use blkid |
| 12:32.12 | eb0t | i have downloaded util-linux |
| 12:32.18 | eb0t | any ideas |
| 12:32.36 | WormFood | dutchfish, it's "aptitude keep-all", for future reference |
| 12:32.44 | themill | fcp13: what do you mean by "full display"? |
| 12:32.46 | eb0t | sorry........missed sudo |
| 12:32.50 | WormFood | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=229212 tells about it |
| 12:32.51 | dutchfish | WormFood, ah ok, thanks |
| 12:33.54 | fcp13 | hi themill |
| 12:33.58 | fcp13 | like that http://tinyurl.com/puuu4qb |
| 12:34.11 | fcp13 | my widget appears minimized |
| 12:34.28 | WormFood | are there any known issues with making a debian package with the ati video installer from amd's web site? (I'm talking about using their software to make the debian package for me, if I wasn't clear enough) |
| 12:34.56 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@71.89.137.28) |
| 12:35.01 | dutchfish | WormFood, on PPC? |
| 12:35.13 | *** join/#debian zamba (marius@flage.org) |
| 12:35.14 | eb0t | i have to manually mount my usb stick in debian wheezy.........is this normal ? |
| 12:35.34 | *** join/#debian tengri_ (~alp@188.3.218.227) |
| 12:35.46 | themill | fcp13: perhaps you could paste a screenshot (picpaste.com) |
| 12:36.52 | *** join/#debian horsik (~username@178-37-110-109.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 12:38.03 | WormFood | dutchfish, hahaha....no |
| 12:38.53 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 12:39.57 | dutchfish | k |
| 12:42.17 | fcp13 | themill sorry delay |
| 12:42.18 | fcp13 | http://snag.gy/VOlim.jpg |
| 12:42.44 | *** join/#debian mamtina (~ms@static-115-49.blueline.mg) |
| 12:43.07 | themill | fcp13: which release of debian is this? |
| 12:43.33 | fcp13 | jessie |
| 12:43.42 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 12:43.58 | *** join/#debian CookieM (~tomek@dkc72.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 12:44.10 | *** join/#debian mfabel (~mfabel@cs-wormulon.cs.uidaho.edu) |
| 12:44.15 | themill | fcp13: hmm... you might do better in #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net for that |
| 12:44.38 | *** join/#debian kyle__ (~kyle@173-165-60-19-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 12:44.47 | *** join/#debian k42b3 (~k42b3@p57997A2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:44.47 | fcp13 | ok thanks |
| 12:45.36 | *** part/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@71.89.137.28) |
| 12:45.42 | *** join/#debian skoota (~skoota@183.17.139.101) |
| 12:46.17 | *** join/#debian grandie (~Grandad@p4FD4EDF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:47.12 | *** join/#debian tombatone (~tombatone@2a02:2028:c3:6cb0:1e6f:65ff:fe35:f7e4) |
| 12:47.48 | eb0t | hey guys do you manually mount your usb sticks |
| 12:47.52 | eb0t | in debian wheezy |
| 12:48.09 | eb0t | or do you use usbmount |
| 12:48.50 | *** join/#debian Kiryx (~Kiryx@109.231.18.110) |
| 12:49.53 | *** join/#debian KBme (~r00t@2a01:e35:39c8:a7d0:5604:a6ff:fe34:8ba4) |
| 12:49.59 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.249.88.26) |
| 12:50.07 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~debian@pa49-187-53-206.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 12:50.10 | *** join/#debian litenn (~litenn@unaffiliated/litenn) |
| 12:50.45 | *** join/#debian casheew (~casheew@109.75.178.128) |
| 12:51.27 | *** join/#debian ifdm_ (~imanol@unaffiliated/ifdm/x-0713806) |
| 12:51.57 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 12:52.03 | *** join/#debian use_zfs_yo (uid22802@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-etfttvymwypwimij) |
| 12:52.28 | *** join/#debian horsik (~username@178-37-110-109.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 12:54.19 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@dsl092-078-219.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 12:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1339] by debhelper |
| 12:56.54 | *** join/#debian engla (~engla@unaffiliated/engla) |
| 12:58.33 | *** join/#debian traph (~traph@unaffiliated/traph) |
| 12:59.46 | *** join/#debian paddy (~patrick@unaffiliated/paddy) |
| 12:59.49 | *** join/#debian grok (~grok@unaffiliated/grok) |
| 12:59.50 | paddy | hello |
| 13:00.38 | paddy | where is the path= variable defined for local users when ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc do not contain anything path related? |
| 13:01.36 | *** join/#debian f001 (~f001@5.56.169.85) |
| 13:01.47 | *** join/#debian IonelPopescu (~ionel@p5.eregie.pub.ro) |
| 13:02.01 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 13:02.01 | *** join/#debian fcp13 (~fcp13@a95-93-80-161.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 13:03.47 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.73.169) |
| 13:04.03 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 13:04.48 | *** join/#debian Mikaela (mkaysi@unaffiliated/mikaela) |
| 13:05.00 | *** part/#debian mfabel (~mfabel@cs-wormulon.cs.uidaho.edu) |
| 13:05.54 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~debian@pa49-187-53-206.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 13:06.08 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 13:06.28 | *** join/#debian raSter^ (raster@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-mneafrrnaaeaiilq) |
| 13:07.02 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 13:07.24 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 13:08.01 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@ppp-46-244-162-194.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 13:08.08 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 13:08.21 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 13:10.07 | *** join/#debian Ritzton (~toto@172.165.27.109.rev.sfr.net) |
| 13:10.07 | *** join/#debian vurma (~kimchi@nl109-141-178.student.uu.se) |
| 13:10.37 | *** join/#debian SopaXorzTaker (~quassel@87.228.63.84) |
| 13:10.48 | *** join/#debian killian99 (~killian99@jol13-4-78-235-25-248.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:13.33 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@d594e6a3.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 13:13.56 | *** join/#debian fcp13 (~fcp13@a95-93-80-161.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 13:14.12 | *** join/#debian hyppias (hyppias@53558706.cm-6-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 13:15.54 | *** join/#debian DLange (~DLange@about/linux/staff/dlange) |
| 13:17.16 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host168-142-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:20.24 | *** join/#debian Scall (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) |
| 13:21.38 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@81-230-126-193-no160.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 13:22.48 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-157-238.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 13:22.57 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 13:25.06 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 13:25.25 | *** join/#debian Guest47850 (~Max@S0106c8d719e3bfc2.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 13:25.55 | Guest47850 | hey hows it going today? anyone know with tails if i can save my claws profile to a usb then reload it next i luanch tails |
| 13:26.19 | *** join/#debian dtcrshr (~datacrush@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 13:26.25 | dutchfish | paddy, at the top of my head, path= takes the system wide defined path on logon into the user defined path, on top of that the user may or may not define his own path extensions, as some programs will need an use that. |
| 13:27.16 | paddy | yeah, seems to fetch the path from either /etc/profile or from /etc/login.defs |
| 13:27.37 | dutchfish | paddy, you can think of it as a copy on logon |
| 13:27.45 | *** join/#debian Namaskar (~Namaskr@host86-164-132-108.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:27.48 | Anarch | My ISP is experimenting with Debian but is unfamiliar with it. He wants to be able to ask "what package provides command $foo", even when $foo is not installed. For example, ruptime is provided by rwho; `apt-cache search ruptime` finds it, but apt-cache search often gives verbose irrelevant output. Is there a more specific query? |
| 13:28.14 | themill | Anarch: apt-file is your friend |
| 13:28.31 | Anarch | themill: thanks |
| 13:30.46 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 13:31.22 | dutchfish | Anarch, rem that apt-file needs regular updates as in apt-file update |
| 13:31.32 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@178.21.91.53) |
| 13:32.03 | Anarch | dutchfish: I'm pretty sure my ISP will be doing that. |
| 13:32.04 | *** join/#debian scoofy (~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 13:32.56 | scoofy | hello. after changing the hostname in /etc/hostname, i get the following warning from the terminal when i do something: |
| 13:33.01 | scoofy | http://pastebin.com/vCXbf1c2 |
| 13:33.06 | scoofy | anyone know how to fix it? |
| 13:33.15 | scoofy | 'acerka' was the old hostname |
| 13:33.22 | dutchfish | Anarch, contrary i found out, since apt-file stores its db seperately per user, iow root has a different db for apt-file then a user |
| 13:33.32 | Anarch | Meh, on my ISP's Wheezy, I can't read /etc/apt/sources.list.d/x2go.list because it's root:root 700, so I can't use apt-file. |
| 13:34.09 | dutchfish | Anarch, you can |
| 13:34.17 | Anarch | dutchfish: Right, I'm getting that. So I still don't see an alternative to apt-cache. |
| 13:34.20 | *** join/#debian antimatterone (~antimatte@cpc18-aztw24-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 13:34.38 | themill | Anarch: or look at the -s option for apt-file |
| 13:34.45 | *** join/#debian ghostrat (~null@201.47.25.135.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 13:34.45 | *** join/#debian Mikaela (mkaysi@unaffiliated/mikaela) |
| 13:35.15 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@put92-h04-212-194-144-131.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 13:35.30 | *** join/#debian mourest (~mourest@adsl-ull-248-250.45-151.net24.it) |
| 13:35.38 | Anarch | themill: So I'd need to create my own readable sources.list, and then *hope* the ISP's admin's result is the same as mine. |
| 13:35.53 | dutchfish | bingo |
| 13:36.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1347] by debhelper |
| 13:36.17 | themill | Anarch: or get them to fix the sources.list file. |
| 13:36.17 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 13:36.21 | *** join/#debian Blakney (~Blakney@gateway/tor-sasl/blakney) |
| 13:36.42 | Anarch | Hmm, Ubuntu hacks bash's command-not-found to report the packages of not-found commands, but I don't remember where that hack goes; if I knew, I could read the hack. Anybody know how that's done? |
| 13:37.12 | themill | Anarch: command-not-found just uses apt-file |
| 13:37.44 | xand | yeah, it's the command-not-found package |
| 13:37.57 | scoofy | what's the proper way of changing hostname? |
| 13:38.08 | themill | dpkg: tell scoofy about hostname |
| 13:38.22 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF5D72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:38.52 | scoofy | thanks |
| 13:39.01 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@188.134.49.56) |
| 13:39.39 | *** join/#debian Growly (~Growly@121.211.109.89) |
| 13:39.58 | scoofy | themill, I get the same warning after i change hostname... _IceTransSocketUNIXConnect: Cannot connect to non-local host [old hostname] |
| 13:40.35 | *** join/#debian calbasi (~joan@156.190.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 13:40.47 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 13:40.51 | themill | scoofy: what's generating that error? |
| 13:41.17 | scoofy | for example, gnome-open whatever.pdf |
| 13:41.21 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@92.109.90.61) |
| 13:41.26 | Blakney | hmmm... it's strange... installing debian failed "dpkg --force-depends --install" but using the crunchbang-iso - which is debian based - installed like a charm... |
| 13:41.42 | scoofy | so i'm not sure where that error comes from |
| 13:42.04 | themill | scoofy: it's entire possible gnome doesn't like the hostname being changed underneath it. No idea. |
| 13:42.06 | scoofy | themill, 'gnome-terminal' gives the same erorr |
| 13:42.16 | scoofy | so probably yea... gnome not liking it a lot... |
| 13:42.17 | *** join/#debian hammad_ (uid14825@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xvshqszxpikbjqkf) |
| 13:42.35 | scoofy | maybe reboot would fix that |
| 13:42.54 | themill | Blakney: which installer image did you use? |
| 13:42.58 | xand | some software does not cope with changing hostnames |
| 13:43.15 | themill | (that's not the whole error message btw) |
| 13:43.32 | dutchfish | scoofy, i relogon might be neccesary, in some cases the threads in the OS are not yet aware of the change and even a reboot might be neccesary |
| 13:43.35 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@ril69-3-88-169-251-156.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:43.48 | dutchfish | scoofy, depending on your install base |
| 13:44.08 | scoofy | hm, i'll try logout/relogin |
| 13:44.14 | scoofy | maybe that fixes it |
| 13:44.59 | *** join/#debian IonelPopescu (~ionel@p5.eregie.pub.ro) |
| 13:45.22 | themill | scoofy: also, please don't cross-post questions and just ask your question in the right channel. |
| 13:46.07 | scoofy | even if when there's no answer on the 'right' channel? |
| 13:46.17 | themill | then pick a distro with better support? |
| 13:46.28 | scoofy | anyways thanks, relogin seems to fix this. so thanks again |
| 13:50.14 | Blakney | themill debian amd64 offline iso |
| 13:50.33 | *** join/#debian gandaliter (~toby@zone2.jesus.cam.ac.uk) |
| 13:51.19 | *** join/#debian Yeowang (~weechat@unaffiliated/jellicent) |
| 13:51.25 | themill | Blakney: a specific filename would be good |
| 13:53.00 | *** join/#debian Yeowang (~weechat@g229102115.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 13:53.07 | *** join/#debian Yeowang (~weechat@unaffiliated/jellicent) |
| 13:54.02 | *** join/#debian relix (~relix@91.46.46.176.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 13:56.10 | Blakney | themill debian-7.3.0-amd64-DVD |
| 13:56.42 | *** join/#debian Adzgibbo (~knifebunn@110-174-217-251.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 13:56.48 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 13:57.47 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 13:58.00 | *** join/#debian pacop (~foo@fenix.cloud.tilaa.com) |
| 13:58.03 | *** join/#debian AsumFace (~asumface@31-18-232-62-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 13:59.15 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@ppp-94-69-84-250.home.otenet.gr) |
| 13:59.42 | *** part/#debian scoofy (~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 13:59.44 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-74-76-247-210.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 13:59.47 | paddy | Blakney: what do you try to achieve exactly? |
| 14:00.54 | Blakney | paddy I tried to install debian with win dual boot but it did not work. it's not an issue anymore though, I was just wondering that it did not install. |
| 14:02.45 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 14:03.30 | *** join/#debian mmikeym (~mikeym@184.70.65.118) |
| 14:04.11 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com) |
| 14:04.11 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 14:04.27 | *** join/#debian [A3G1S] (~A3G1S]@182.68.149.113) |
| 14:04.27 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.73.169) |
| 14:04.38 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 14:05.03 | *** join/#debian hmstrmn (~hmstrmn@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 14:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1358] by debhelper |
| 14:06.49 | *** join/#debian wildc4rd (~nick@109.176.166.166) |
| 14:06.55 | *** part/#debian litenn (~litenn@unaffiliated/litenn) |
| 14:07.48 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 14:07.53 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 14:09.33 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 14:11.19 | *** join/#debian serjsj (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 14:12.05 | *** join/#debian gnugnu9 (~gnugnu9@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 14:12.13 | *** join/#debian bikeshedder (~bikeshedd@dslb-178-004-066-150.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:12.39 | *** join/#debian thingamabob (~user@unaffiliated/thingamabob) |
| 14:13.13 | *** join/#debian alextreme (~alex@15-16-191-195.ftth.glasoperator.nl) |
| 14:13.29 | *** join/#debian serverhorror (~serverhor@HSI-KBW-046-005-002-229.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 14:14.58 | *** join/#debian pinage404 (~pinage404@mau78-1-88-184-110-51.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:17.26 | *** join/#debian oculus (~oculus@gateway/tor-sasl/oculus) |
| 14:17.39 | *** join/#debian Routh (~routh@amateurwriting.net) |
| 14:18.53 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@78.186.152.96) |
| 14:20.12 | *** join/#debian harrison (~quassel@li89-226.members.linode.com) |
| 14:20.14 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD620FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:20.23 | *** join/#debian dgeary2_ (~debian@pa49-187-52-7.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 14:21.54 | *** join/#debian HazardX (~HazardX3@pool-71-184-139-63.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:22.41 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 14:24.24 | *** join/#debian mypapit (~mypapit@253.83.49.60.trm01-home.tm.net.my) |
| 14:27.37 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@188.134.49.56) |
| 14:28.26 | *** join/#debian HicksD (~HicksD@176.253.20.36) |
| 14:28.28 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a79-168-159-95.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 14:31.13 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 14:31.52 | *** join/#debian h3ron (~h3ron@pool-108-13-227-76.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:32.23 | *** join/#debian anddam (~weechat@199.19.224.42) |
| 14:34.55 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 14:34.56 | *** join/#debian nullbyte_ (~nullbyte@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 14:35.47 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 14:35.59 | *** join/#debian mdel (uid25573@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gtgkxedwlyezcqzo) |
| 14:36.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1365] by debhelper |
| 14:37.54 | *** join/#debian statu (~statu@164.176.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 14:39.28 | *** join/#debian magnetophon (~bart@a83-163-205-75.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 14:40.00 | *** join/#debian buu (~buu@75.108.224.3) |
| 14:41.59 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 14:42.21 | *** join/#debian vital (~o@93.190.3.226) |
| 14:42.44 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@194.112.156.214) |
| 14:44.28 | *** join/#debian pinage404 (~pinage404@mau78-1-88-184-110-51.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:45.20 | *** join/#debian MrDoge (~MrDoge@183.87.220.153) |
| 14:45.46 | *** join/#debian siso (~siso@12.230.154.6) |
| 14:46.35 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@put92-h04-212-194-144-131.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 14:47.54 | halothe23 | I've read ze article you linked me to yesterday, however I have found no real success in finding a fix for laggy network interupts that are slowing the server down. dutchfish |
| 14:48.20 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 14:49.30 | eb0t | can i run fsck on my /root or /home partition whilst they are mounted without causing any damage |
| 14:51.02 | *** join/#debian jetho (~jens@186.193.201.24) |
| 14:51.07 | wols | eb0t: only if they are mounted read-only |
| 14:52.07 | *** join/#debian jetblack (~jetblack@108-252-129-150.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:52.15 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 14:52.33 | eb0t | i dont suppose the /home or /root directory will be read only |
| 14:52.35 | *** join/#debian stealthii (sid17385@unaffiliated/stealthii) |
| 14:52.35 | *** join/#debian stealthii (sid17385@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-orpcbkgsjnaehqjy) |
| 14:52.41 | eb0t | thanks for the warning |
| 14:52.51 | eb0t | you have probably saved me a full reinstall wols |
| 14:52.58 | xand | you really mean /root? |
| 14:53.13 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~Jeff_Ward@cpe-24-58-234-187.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 14:53.14 | eb0t | no i mean '/' |
| 14:53.16 | eb0t | root |
| 14:53.19 | wols | maybe some people boot /roon/ on their own partition :) |
| 14:53.24 | eb0t | proper root |
| 14:53.28 | eb0t | of the whole system |
| 14:53.29 | wols | s/boot/put/ |
| 14:55.11 | *** join/#debian SM0TVI (kvirc@unaffiliated/sm0tvi) |
| 14:55.42 | *** join/#debian GeekMan1222|Desk (~Matt@75-143-252-99.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) |
| 14:56.13 | *** part/#debian anddam (~weechat@199.19.224.42) |
| 14:58.11 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@mar92-19-78-248-89-109.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:58.32 | *** join/#debian Brody (4e95b6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.149.182.208) |
| 14:59.11 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@sd440645e.adsl.online.nl) |
| 15:00.35 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 15:00.46 | shovel_boss | i start my rig |
| 15:00.54 | shovel_boss | it loads up and opens the login screen |
| 15:01.04 | shovel_boss | i type my password and hit login |
| 15:01.07 | shovel_boss | wait a few second |
| 15:01.09 | shovel_boss | screen flashes |
| 15:01.16 | shovel_boss | and gets me back to the login screen |
| 15:01.17 | shovel_boss | wat do |
| 15:01.18 | shovel_boss | plz help |
| 15:01.31 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 15:01.41 | *** join/#debian halothe23 (~halothe23@freenode/sponsor/halothe23) |
| 15:01.59 | towo` | shovel_boss, paste the output of df -h |
| 15:02.09 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744160077.direcpc.com) |
| 15:02.14 | shovel_boss | one moment |
| 15:02.40 | Mikaela | I would say permission issue. I get those sometimes while reinstalling or using multiple distributions with same /home. |
| 15:05.18 | *** join/#debian cunrad44 (~cunrad44@cpc14-haye16-2-0-cust169.haye.cable.virginm.net) |
| 15:05.19 | *** join/#debian Bichito (~Venom@62.83.194.117.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 15:05.19 | *** join/#debian Bichito (~Venom@unaffiliated/bichito) |
| 15:05.27 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 15:06.54 | *** join/#debian turtlehat (~offmode@home.b3nny.eu) |
| 15:07.04 | shovel_boss | towo`, it shows the filesystem where its mounted |
| 15:07.11 | shovel_boss | after that it shows USB mouse |
| 15:07.22 | shovel_boss | when i move the mouse it outputs |
| 15:07.34 | SweetMuffin | shovel_boss: that means you can log in ? |
| 15:08.20 | shovel_boss | i login and it brings me back to the login screen |
| 15:08.25 | shovel_boss | i mean i cant login into gnome |
| 15:08.30 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 15:08.32 | SweetMuffin | how did you execute df than ? |
| 15:08.35 | SweetMuffin | hh |
| 15:08.40 | shovel_boss | recovery mode m8 |
| 15:08.47 | *** join/#debian Dirkos (~Dirkos@82-171-139-166.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 15:09.21 | SweetMuffin | are you in recovery mode, or in terminal session after normal boot ( CTRL+ALT+F2 for example) ? |
| 15:09.23 | *** join/#debian Guest29174 (RickyB98@mediawiki/rickyb98) |
| 15:09.51 | shovel_boss | recovery mode |
| 15:09.56 | shovel_boss | i typed df -h |
| 15:10.12 | *** join/#debian BotaniCar_ (~BotaniCar@93-136-135-75.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 15:10.36 | SweetMuffin | you're unable to login in terminal mode after normal boot neither ? Trying to figure if it's gnome or user issue |
| 15:10.49 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@static.77.46.9.176.clients.your-server.de) |
| 15:11.02 | *** join/#debian Elrond (~elrond@irc.man-da.de) |
| 15:11.40 | shovel_boss | ill try the ctrl alt f2 |
| 15:11.50 | Elrond | I have a private mini-dinstall-repos and it's not showing in apt-cache policy. Any recommendations how to further debug that? (yes, I can install packages from the repos on aptitude) |
| 15:12.31 | *** join/#debian mye (~lo@p5DE58D14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:13.15 | *** join/#debian serverhorror (~serverhor@HSI-KBW-046-005-002-229.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 15:13.32 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~CrazyEddy@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 15:13.44 | WilliamDotSI | mhm weird |
| 15:13.55 | WilliamDotSI | Debian 6, my ssh breaks after some time |
| 15:14.13 | WilliamDotSI | just connection reset by peer, its not a network issue as i can reach others KVMs on this host |
| 15:14.21 | WilliamDotSI | dmesg shows nothing interesting, load is normal |
| 15:14.35 | shovel_boss | ctrl alt f2 on the loginscreen |
| 15:14.36 | Elrond | WilliamDotSI - You know about -v to ssh? |
| 15:14.45 | shovel_boss | gives a black screen |
| 15:14.56 | shovel_boss | with a underscore flashing on the top right corner |
| 15:14.58 | WilliamDotSI | yes Elrond but in this case its not useful |
| 15:14.59 | shovel_boss | i cant type in it |
| 15:15.02 | WilliamDotSI | as the IP connection itself resets |
| 15:15.19 | WilliamDotSI | like, any, whole eth dies for some seconds |
| 15:15.39 | WilliamDotSI | i have many other Debian 6/7/Ub 12 KVMs that dont have this issue, host runs Deb 7 also |
| 15:15.39 | spal | WilliamDotSI, did you try confirming that other kinds of connections die too? netcat would be a nice way to test. |
| 15:15.49 | shovel_boss | plz help |
| 15:15.50 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@p5B0F41A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:15.55 | SweetMuffin | shovel_boss: is the boot sequence over ( no HDD light flashing) ? Try same with F3. Also, try to put as much text as you can in one line here, easyer to follow. |
| 15:16.02 | WilliamDotSI | spal: yes, i do monitoring by icinga |
| 15:16.12 | WilliamDotSI | 100% packetloss and connection refused on other checks |
| 15:16.24 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 15:16.30 | WilliamDotSI | via vnc outbound (ping) also dies at this time |
| 15:16.51 | shovel_boss | f3 doesnt do anything |
| 15:16.58 | shovel_boss | typing in it doesnt do anything |
| 15:17.06 | shovel_boss | pressing enter doesnt print anything |
| 15:17.12 | shovel_boss | its like frozen |
| 15:17.18 | shovel_boss | but the underscore is flashing |
| 15:17.34 | shovel_boss | there is no home@root/ thing either only the underscore |
| 15:19.18 | *** join/#debian hmstrmn (~hmstrmn@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 15:19.55 | ectospasm | yeah, sounds like your kernel isn't loading |
| 15:21.41 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@92.109.90.61) |
| 15:22.05 | Elrond | WilliamDotSI - Hmm, very strange. |
| 15:22.11 | *** join/#debian bluenemo_ (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 15:22.11 | *** join/#debian xragnar (~ragnar@drms-4d000eaf.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 15:22.26 | Elrond | WilliamDotSI - not to mention, that a shutdown interface should not break connections, they should just wait. |
| 15:22.28 | WilliamDotSI | iptraf shows nothing interesting either |
| 15:22.32 | WilliamDotSI | so its not getting ddos |
| 15:22.54 | WilliamDotSI | load is at 0.61 and the host is bored |
| 15:23.35 | Elrond | Very strange. But then on the other hand, I have not much experience with kvm. |
| 15:24.02 | *** join/#debian juser (~juser@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 15:24.23 | WilliamDotSI | i doubt KVM is the issue |
| 15:24.41 | mns | I am ssh'd into my system. someone else is on the console, logged in via lightdm. how do I send a message via xmessage to them ? |
| 15:25.26 | *** join/#debian geothom (~kvirc@athedsl-225776.home.otenet.gr) |
| 15:25.26 | *** part/#debian serverhorror (~serverhor@HSI-KBW-046-005-002-229.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 15:26.02 | *** join/#debian prinsen (~prinsen@l83-177-167-93.cust.tele2.se) |
| 15:26.06 | Elrond | mns - You need the xauth tokens, likely. |
| 15:27.08 | prinsen | im using https://github.com/g2p/blocks to convert my lvm to a bcache, sould /dev/... be the PV or LV? |
| 15:28.25 | *** join/#debian amaldo (~amaldo@pdpc/supporter/student/amaldo) |
| 15:28.32 | mns | Elrond: how do I get the xuath token and from where ? |
| 15:30.33 | mns | Elrond: nvm ... users home directory :) |
| 15:30.46 | *** join/#debian tomme (~tomme@41.200.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 15:30.53 | brightkill | $HOME/.Xauthority? |
| 15:31.13 | *** join/#debian spudwebb (~spuddweb@24.147.245.241) |
| 15:31.14 | *** join/#debian moza (~moza@dynamic.1.16.34dbfd721d80.0236994134c.afb.bredband2.com) |
| 15:31.18 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.73.169) |
| 15:31.35 | mns | brightkill: yeah. but do I use mine or the other persons ? |
| 15:31.59 | *** join/#debian fnwinter (uid17417@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dkbioznijrxbvqwf) |
| 15:32.15 | Brody | Hi guys im installing debian and Im having a bit of trouble getting it to connect to the internet. Im now checking each little bit as carefully as possible to isolate my problem. One part is; its asking me if I use a HTTP proxy. I cant work out if I do or not for certain. On this machine my internet protocol tcp/ip properties are set to NOT auto obtain an ip address. Therefore I think im using a proxy. However, im not sure how to iden |
| 15:32.45 | *** join/#debian hmstrmn (~hmstrmn@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 15:32.49 | Brody | "http://[[user][:pass]@]host[:port]/" |
| 15:33.40 | *** join/#debian CEnnis91 (uid3543@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-geqslexpvrfuajbd) |
| 15:34.15 | brightkill | Brody: this is not a proxy |
| 15:34.45 | shovel_boss | ectospasm, how do i load the kernel |
| 15:34.50 | shovel_boss | do i need to reinstall debian |
| 15:34.51 | brightkill | autoobtaining ip address is the DHCP job, not a proxy |
| 15:34.51 | shovel_boss | ? |
| 15:34.55 | shovel_boss | i think its a gpu issue |
| 15:34.59 | Elrond | I have a private mini-dinstall-repos and it's not showing in apt-cache policy. Any recommendations how to further debug that? (yes, I can install packages from the repos on aptitude) |
| 15:35.03 | shovel_boss | i only been messing with non free amd drivers |
| 15:35.04 | *** join/#debian pfdotn (~spooky@unaffiliated/pfdotn) |
| 15:35.09 | shovel_boss | the new 14.2 mantle driver |
| 15:35.16 | *** join/#debian tomme_ (~tomme@41.200.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 15:35.32 | *** join/#debian mldr09 (c2b0b087@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.176.176.135) |
| 15:35.34 | mtn | Brody: you won't be using a proxy unless you set one up yourself. |
| 15:35.36 | ectospasm | shovel_boss: try booting a rescue image (one should have been installed in GRUB by default) |
| 15:35.39 | brightkill | shovel_boss: your kernel is loaded by bootloader |
| 15:36.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1371] by debhelper |
| 15:36.11 | ectospasm | ...then blacklist your GPU driver (nvidia, nouveau, <whatever the ATI/AMD driver is called>, etc. |
| 15:36.27 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@177.134.159.187) |
| 15:36.42 | *** join/#debian ghost75 (~quassel@dslb-088-064-223-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:36.50 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell shovel_boss -about blacklist |
| 15:36.59 | shovel_boss | plz no |
| 15:37.32 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 15:37.45 | ectospasm | well, you'll have basic video, so you can poke around and figure out what's wrong |
| 15:37.54 | shovel_boss | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.00 | shovel_boss | it will have nothing to load from |
| 15:38.08 | ectospasm | 12.6? Are you using Ubuntu? |
| 15:38.12 | Brody | brightkill mtn, thanks, i will continue to leave it blank then. the error i get after this step is: 'Bad Archive Mirror; An error has been detected while trying to use the specified Debian archive mirror.' Ive tried several and all give the same message |
| 15:38.15 | shovel_boss | debian |
| 15:38.24 | shovel_boss | it comes with 12.6 fglrx |
| 15:38.26 | shovel_boss | i deleted it |
| 15:38.35 | shovel_boss | and put 14.2 catalyst |
| 15:38.40 | ectospasm | I know nothing about fglrx |
| 15:38.47 | brightkill | Brody: you make a mistake while configure your internet connection, i think |
| 15:38.53 | shovel_boss | its the default opensource driver for ati cards |
| 15:39.00 | mtn | Brody: are you sure you have an internet connection? |
| 15:39.24 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell shovel_boss -about fglrx |
| 15:39.36 | brightkill | shovel_boss: fglrx is a default opensource driver? |
| 15:39.37 | ectospasm | shovel_boss: that's all the help I can provide. |
| 15:40.08 | brightkill | dpkg is a bot? |
| 15:40.10 | dpkg | brightkill: wish i knew |
| 15:40.11 | shovel_boss | i dont have old cards |
| 15:40.19 | shovel_boss | i got the new r9 290 |
| 15:40.44 | shovel_boss | brightkill, i assume its opensource since it comes with debian |
| 15:40.47 | shovel_boss | preinstalled |
| 15:41.17 | towo` | fglrx comes never preinstalled in debian |
| 15:41.21 | *** join/#debian iKb (~iKb@151.54.71.180) |
| 15:41.23 | towo` | fglrx is non-free |
| 15:41.30 | Brody | mtn brightkill im pretty sure i have made the error in the configuration part. I have 2 network cards plugged in. I am choosing to use the wireless one in the first step |
| 15:41.50 | shovel_boss | ok wat do |
| 15:41.59 | shovel_boss | it was running fine untill i got the new driver |
| 15:42.04 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~oijvlj@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 15:42.04 | mtn | Brody: go back to the network step and make sure you get a connection |
| 15:42.07 | shovel_boss | any hope of fixing it? |
| 15:42.09 | Brody | this step seems to work fine. it then detects my 'talk-talk wireless network. |
| 15:42.46 | Brody | then it asks if i am wep or wpa. i choose wpa, is there a way to check what i am for certain? |
| 15:42.46 | towo` | shovel_boss, if you see the login-screen, you have no problem with fglrx |
| 15:43.02 | shovel_boss | the login screen shows |
| 15:43.08 | mtn | Brody: sure, look to see how your router is set up. |
| 15:43.10 | shovel_boss | i can move my mouse and do everything |
| 15:43.19 | shovel_boss | but when i enter my password and login |
| 15:43.28 | shovel_boss | the screen goes off for 5 seconds |
| 15:43.33 | shovel_boss | and puts me back to the login screen |
| 15:43.44 | towo` | shovel_boss, that's why i wantet to see df -h |
| 15:43.51 | shovel_boss | ctrl alt f12 doesnt work |
| 15:43.56 | shovel_boss | it opens a broken terminal |
| 15:44.09 | shovel_boss | i cant type anything in it its not responsive |
| 15:44.10 | towo` | f12 is not a walif terminal |
| 15:44.18 | towo` | valid |
| 15:44.30 | shovel_boss | how do i open it then |
| 15:44.39 | towo` | ctrl+alt+f1? |
| 15:44.55 | shovel_boss | ok i try that |
| 15:46.01 | *** join/#debian up365 (~up365@c-24-0-135-202.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 15:46.02 | *** join/#debian up365 (~up365@unaffiliated/up365) |
| 15:46.21 | *** join/#debian _Lucretia_ (~munkee@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia) |
| 15:46.23 | WilliamDotSI | haha it gets even more weird Elrond |
| 15:46.34 | WilliamDotSI | when i run a ping towards 8.8.8.8 permanently in the VNC session |
| 15:46.38 | WilliamDotSI | it continues to work |
| 15:46.49 | Brody | mtn from my googling wep is an older protocol whereas wpa is the newer one and is the preferred choice. i also am under the impression that my router is using wpa but i cant remember how i came to that conclusion, it was over 48 hours ago since i last tackled this |
| 15:47.42 | mtn | Brody: sorry, but no one can figure it out but you, since you are at the router and computer. |
| 15:47.43 | shovel_boss | towo`, that works |
| 15:47.48 | shovel_boss | i logged into my user |
| 15:47.58 | Brody | mtn where does one 'look' to see how my router is set up? there is no sticker on the device itself so im looking in software options |
| 15:48.05 | shovel_boss | how do i fix gnome |
| 15:48.11 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 15:48.38 | mtn | Brody: you use a web browser and access the router that way and check out the settings. |
| 15:49.03 | shovel_boss | plz help |
| 15:49.07 | shovel_boss | terminal works but gnome doesnt |
| 15:49.08 | shovel_boss | wat do |
| 15:49.29 | vimel | apt-get purge gnome gdm, followed by apt-get install gnome gdm |
| 15:51.33 | *** join/#debian Modeuse (kvirc@141.30.212.174) |
| 15:52.03 | towo` | shovel_boss, show the output of df -h |
| 15:52.38 | *** join/#debian Achylles (~vagner@187.33.180.233) |
| 15:53.44 | shovel_boss | it outputs the filesystem |
| 15:53.50 | shovel_boss | mountfs rootfs etc |
| 15:53.51 | towo` | paste it |
| 15:54.03 | towo` | is this so hard to understand? |
| 15:54.31 | shovel_boss | i cant do that m8 |
| 15:54.33 | shovel_boss | there is no gnome |
| 15:54.38 | shovel_boss | how do i open pastebin |
| 15:54.42 | *** join/#debian bolt (~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 15:54.48 | towo` | you don't need gnome for pasting things |
| 15:55.07 | towo` | apt-get install pastebinit && df -h | pastebinit |
| 15:55.15 | shovel_boss | ok |
| 15:57.08 | Brody | mtn ah i think i understand you. thanks |
| 15:57.40 | *** join/#debian rvchangue_ (~rvchangue@cpe-024-074-007-207.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 15:58.31 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@O015105.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 15:58.40 | shovel_boss | 86234 |
| 15:58.54 | towo` | give the complete link |
| 15:58.56 | shovel_boss | https://www.paste.debian.net/86234 |
| 15:59.00 | shovel_boss | i think |
| 15:59.00 | *** join/#debian rvchangue (~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue) |
| 15:59.02 | shovel_boss | one moment |
| 15:59.32 | shovel_boss | yes thats it |
| 15:59.47 | towo` | shovel_boss, ls -ld /tmp | pastebinit |
| 15:59.52 | *** join/#debian Achylles (~vagner@187.33.180.233) |
| 16:01.14 | shovel_boss | it doesnt give the link |
| 16:01.15 | *** join/#debian whirli (~whirli@91-145-75-232.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 16:01.16 | shovel_boss | only |
| 16:01.24 | shovel_boss | https://www.paste.debian.net/ |
| 16:01.29 | shovel_boss | no numbers |
| 16:02.17 | shovel_boss | i think paste.debian.net is down |
| 16:03.18 | vimel | paste.debian.net/86234 works |
| 16:03.23 | towo` | shovel_boss, ls -ld /tmp | pastebinit -b pastebin.com |
| 16:03.26 | vimel | use without https |
| 16:04.20 | shovel_boss | drwxrwxrwt it writes |
| 16:04.29 | shovel_boss | when i do ls -ld |
| 16:04.33 | shovel_boss | ill try pastebin |
| 16:04.44 | towo` | shovel_boss, make a new user, try to login with the new user |
| 16:05.12 | towo` | shovel_boss, i would sys, your user-profile is damaged |
| 16:05.17 | towo` | *say |
| 16:05.40 | Brody | mtn brightkill its strange, the configure network seems to be working just fine. it says autoconfiguration successful and goes on to the next step. |
| 16:05.49 | *** join/#debian Sh1G3rU (~nix@unaffiliated/sh1g3ru) |
| 16:06.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1363] by debhelper |
| 16:06.07 | shovel_boss | pastebin doesnt work also |
| 16:06.19 | shovel_boss | how do i make a new user |
| 16:06.21 | *** join/#debian Ultip (~alium@unaffiliated/ultip) |
| 16:06.35 | towo` | shovel_boss, adduser |
| 16:06.44 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@187.113.170.31) |
| 16:06.48 | *** join/#debian mourest (~mourest@adsl-ull-248-250.45-151.net24.it) |
| 16:06.55 | *** join/#debian Left_Turn (~Left_Turn@unaffiliated/turn-left/x-3739067) |
| 16:07.01 | *** join/#debian bas70 (~bas@82-171-192-62.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 16:09.11 | *** join/#debian useall (~lb@2001:0:53aa:64c:3890:17f1:d1b6:503c) |
| 16:09.16 | shovel_boss | nope |
| 16:09.19 | shovel_boss | the new user doesnt work |
| 16:09.24 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 16:09.31 | shovel_boss | same problem |
| 16:09.50 | shovel_boss | it must have to do something with the graphics driver |
| 16:10.06 | *** join/#debian number33 (~blackone@f054054029.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 16:10.13 | shovel_boss | thats the only thing i changed since i installed the os |
| 16:10.21 | *** join/#debian netcrash (~net@189-106-109-96.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 16:11.37 | *** join/#debian bolt (~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 16:12.52 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-088-075-136-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:13.01 | *** join/#debian SubjectOne (~section1@78-20-192-197.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:14.00 | *** join/#debian bas70 (~bas@82-171-192-62.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 16:14.03 | *** join/#debian spinningcompass (~spinningc@99-120-205-106.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:14.28 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@24-148-90-126.c3-0.arm-ubr1.chi-arm.il.cable.rcn.com) |
| 16:14.29 | *** join/#debian ccscanf (~ccscanf@162.243.134.169) |
| 16:15.27 | *** join/#debian ytrezq (~ytrezq@2a02-8422-1191-6e00-56e6-fcff-fedb-2bba.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1374] by debhelper |
| 16:16.14 | Brody | Ive plugged in the router directly with a cable to my other network card. This has successfully started to download files now. So I wonder, maybe this means the wireless connection was simply not fast enough, as this was one of the possible issues suggested by the installer error message. |
| 16:16.16 | *** join/#debian zorrolero (~zorrolero@irssi.legalize.de) |
| 16:17.23 | mtn | Brody: no, it suggests your wireless was connected correctly and you did not have an internet connection with wireless. |
| 16:17.32 | *** join/#debian Need58 (~Need58@93-43-128-220.ip92.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:17.37 | *** part/#debian Need58 (~Need58@93-43-128-220.ip92.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:17.38 | mtn | was not connected |
| 16:17.39 | ytrezq | Hello, How I may check if a program have ssse3 instruction inside (the fact taht it require sse3)? The problem is my own machine have sse4.2and avx so I can't simply run the binary for cheking it get an SIGILL. |
| 16:17.40 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 16:17.47 | *** join/#debian blue_sky (~justin@163.178.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 16:18.03 | *** part/#debian blue_sky (~justin@163.178.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 16:18.29 | Brody | I am now at exactly the same point in the installation as I have reached once before. Last time, it crashed and went back to just 'verifying dmi pool data' so hopefuly I will get a little further this time! |
| 16:19.32 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 16:20.04 | Brody | mtn ah ok then. Its odd though because the installer said auto configure successful, and it say my talk talk router. But I am not very knowledgable about these things so I have to take your word for it. |
| 16:20.12 | wols | ytrezq: only via disassembling |
| 16:21.34 | Brody | YES it has got to the next step! hooray. i am very happy now. |
| 16:21.45 | brightkill | :D |
| 16:23.16 | *** join/#debian eiki (~eiki@c-67-175-170-125.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:24.11 | *** join/#debian AL_Kernell (wernerml@189.27.144.166.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 16:25.35 | towo` | shovel_boss, can you login in classic mode? |
| 16:25.47 | *** join/#debian beastd (~Akero7@p5B06F647.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:26.18 | *** join/#debian jchen_ (jchen@lolzr.us) |
| 16:26.21 | *** part/#debian jchen_ (jchen@lolzr.us) |
| 16:26.23 | *** join/#debian eiki (~eiki@c-67-175-170-125.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:28.47 | ytrezq | wols: Which tools in linux would allow me that? |
| 16:28.50 | *** join/#debian maveas (~maveas@unaffiliated/maveas) |
| 16:31.31 | wols | ytrezq: IDA pro (there is a free to use version out there) |
| 16:31.34 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host168-142-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:32.04 | ytrezq | wols: I forgot to ask: linux ones |
| 16:34.36 | *** join/#debian Holo-phil (~quassel@thefizz-195.wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) |
| 16:35.08 | *** join/#debian styler (~styler@c-69-180-30-115.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 16:35.26 | *** join/#debian Okee (~Okee@50-0-108-248.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 16:35.29 | Okee | join #web |
| 16:38.21 | *** join/#debian littlebe1r (~littlebea@209-195-75-100.cpe.distributel.net) |
| 16:38.22 | *** join/#debian thaicares (47370d01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.55.13.1) |
| 16:38.57 | thaicares | I've had wifi issues for a long time now and was told to come back when I had access to wpa instead of wep |
| 16:38.59 | thaicares | so here I am |
| 16:39.21 | thaicares | the biggest issue I see in dmesg is a LOT of these "[46727.953533] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Request scan called when driver not ready." |
| 16:39.40 | thaicares | and I checked rfkill so I didn't accidently hit the switch or nothing :D |
| 16:40.43 | *** join/#debian Max (~Max@S0106c8d719e3bfc2.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 16:41.28 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 16:42.02 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 16:42.06 | *** join/#debian nosklo (nosklo@python/site-packages/pdpc.student.nosklo) |
| 16:42.09 | *** join/#debian petos (~petos@187.185.183.235) |
| 16:42.15 | *** join/#debian earthian (~ea@87-194-79-220.bethere.co.uk) |
| 16:42.24 | earthian | Hello why kolab server is not in wheezy? |
| 16:44.48 | *** join/#debian gr33n7007h (~gr33n7007@unaffiliated/gr33n7007h) |
| 16:46.34 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 16:46.50 | *** join/#debian ThomasJ|d (~ThomasJ@skynet.tihlde.org) |
| 16:49.01 | Brody | actually i was wrong, the first time through the installer i got to 'install grub' when it failed so i havent got further than before quite yet hehe. I just went through the select and install software step. I had selected a few extra ones on top of the default 3. It got to file 1401 out of 1416 and then failed unfortunately. This time i have only selected the default 3. Lets see if it works :) |
| 16:49.49 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-154-191.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 16:53.23 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@212.200.65.134) |
| 16:53.50 | *** join/#debian up365 (~up365@unaffiliated/up365) |
| 16:53.54 | *** join/#debian kriger (~norge@71-90-14-51.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) |
| 16:54.08 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~Ardit@109.69.5.27) |
| 16:54.08 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~Ardit@unaffiliated/ard1t) |
| 16:54.41 | thaicares | anyone able to help with intel wifi chips? I'm using the Debian testing driver... |
| 16:54.44 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@cpc20-nail3-2-0-cust985.18-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 16:54.44 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 16:55.11 | thaicares | Does linux run hotter than windows? |
| 16:55.55 | wols | thaicares: not if you configure it right. and you will need non-free firmware for your intel wlan chip |
| 16:55.58 | wols | !iwlwifi |
| 16:55.59 | dpkg | The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports several Intel 802.11n (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N, Ultimate-N) and 802.11ac adapters. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. Supported devices are listed at http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi . See also <iwlegacy>, <iwl7000>. |
| 16:56.02 | thaicares | can it... because I'm thinking that could be an issue with my wifi but it didn't have the issue on windows is all |
| 16:56.26 | wols | your wifi will not heat up your laptop. it just can't |
| 16:56.33 | Brody | ah darn it. The select and install software step faield again. The error message doesnt give out any clues. Hmm what do you guys recommend? |
| 16:56.42 | *** join/#debian uizex1 (~uiz@81.168.49.1) |
| 16:56.51 | thaicares | wols no my laptop overheating is what I think leads to the wifi not working.... |
| 16:56.59 | wols | Brody: os this UEFI/GPT? |
| 16:57.06 | *** part/#debian ytrezq (~ytrezq@2a02-8422-1191-6e00-56e6-fcff-fedb-2bba.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:57.10 | *** join/#debian arthurfiggis (~arthurfig@unaffiliated/arthurfiggis) |
| 16:57.23 | thaicares | and I'm pretty sure I have the right iwlwifi driver someone told me where to go (in this chat room) |
| 16:57.25 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@190.188.178.239) |
| 16:57.31 | Brody | wols i havent seen this acronym before so let me just google that |
| 16:57.32 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@ppp-94-69-84-250.home.otenet.gr) |
| 16:57.43 | wols | Brody: what mainboard do you have? |
| 16:57.59 | thaicares | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-iwlwifi |
| 16:58.12 | Brody | wols my motherboard is gigabyte ga-7va |
| 16:58.37 | *** join/#debian Umschwung (~Umschwung@unaffiliated/umschwung) |
| 16:58.40 | thaicares | I even had it working for a little which is another reason I think it might be heat because usually when I turn it on it works but then it will stop working a little after! |
| 16:58.49 | wols | Brody: then you don't. go to another terminal and try "grub-install <proper device>" |
| 16:59.32 | thaicares | wols any further thoughts? |
| 16:59.49 | *** join/#debian thorsten_t_ge (~thorsten@p57A785E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:59.56 | wols | thaicares: yes. what is your temperature when you think it's overheating? |
| 17:00.29 | Brody | wols im sorry im not sure i understand your comment |
| 17:00.39 | thaicares | I don't observe that! One because I'm skeptical and the other because I'm not smart enough to think to do that lol |
| 17:04.04 | wols | Brody: you have no UEFI and don't use GPT. are you in the debian installer or are you in a live CD? |
| 17:04.54 | *** join/#debian NikTh (~nikos@ubuntu/member/nikth) |
| 17:05.24 | *** join/#debian bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) |
| 17:06.40 | thaicares | wols right now, running a little hotter than normal (that is how it feels), my sensor says it is at 114.8 degrees fahrenheit |
| 17:07.11 | Brody | wols im in the dbian installer |
| 17:07.35 | *** join/#debian rofltaxi (~Max@S0106c8d719e3bfc2.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 17:08.17 | thaicares | wols now it is about 120 so decently hot :/ |
| 17:08.36 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host168-142-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:08.46 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@79.126.202.227) |
| 17:08.46 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 17:09.52 | *** join/#debian Aristide (~quassel@81.253.0.224) |
| 17:09.55 | *** part/#debian NikTh (~nikos@ubuntu/member/nikth) |
| 17:10.03 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 17:12.25 | *** join/#debian max_ (~max@82.Red-88-9-0.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:13.41 | *** join/#debian Quicken2K (~Q2K@184.175.7.27) |
| 17:13.51 | thaicares | could 104F - 120F temps be affecting my wifi? |
| 17:14.11 | Brody | Im now trying to install just the gui and the system utilities without the print server selected. If this doesnt work my next option is to skip this step and try installing grub next. |
| 17:14.50 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@a91-153-152-135.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 17:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1365] by debhelper |
| 17:18.11 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 17:18.40 | *** join/#debian paddy (~patrick@unaffiliated/paddy) |
| 17:19.28 | *** part/#debian turtlehat (~offmode@home.b3nny.eu) |
| 17:19.33 | *** join/#debian asterismo (~asterismo@r186-52-246-236.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 17:20.16 | *** join/#debian Yeti^ (~yer@206.225.133.1) |
| 17:20.26 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@178-55-42-167.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 17:22.06 | thaicares | I'm looking for some handholding! I have wifi issues and would LOVE to get them resolved ASAP :D |
| 17:22.19 | *** join/#debian smonchi (~smonchi@um-1700.cyberwurx.com) |
| 17:23.07 | *** join/#debian Ritzton (~toto@172.165.27.109.rev.sfr.net) |
| 17:23.46 | *** join/#debian Packardnode (Pack@charlie.yourbnc.co.uk) |
| 17:23.50 | Brody | The installation step failed again. There were 1291 files to retrieve and it successfully got them all but as soon as the counter hit 1291, the installer displays the error message; installation step failed |
| 17:24.09 | Brody | Do you guys recommend i skip this step and try to install grub? |
| 17:25.11 | earthian | d-i? |
| 17:25.53 | wols | Brody: why step was this? |
| 17:26.17 | earthian | i would go with grub now, reboot into working system and see if the tasksel can be resumed.. |
| 17:26.31 | *** join/#debian Xiti (~Xiti-@c-50-134-127-54.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 17:26.42 | earthian | or just install what you need by meta packages and not tasksel |
| 17:26.50 | Brody | wols this step is 'select and install software' |
| 17:27.42 | thaicares | my temp is at 129F could that be an issue with my wifi? |
| 17:27.59 | *** join/#debian jc1 (~jc@AMontpellier-654-1-65-150.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:28.00 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@ppp-46-244-162-194.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 17:28.11 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 17:28.13 | *** join/#debian valerius (~user@85.26.180.173) |
| 17:28.21 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@h147.143.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 17:28.58 | *** join/#debian |DM| (~Wewt|Mang@unaffiliated/cocomango) |
| 17:29.01 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 17:29.09 | *** join/#debian Mbond65 (~Mbond65@host86-174-253-247.range86-174.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:29.16 | thaicares | HOLY wow it just keeps going up and up but it doesn't feel much hotter!!! The sensor has it at 138F already! |
| 17:29.53 | *** join/#debian Neptunia (~Sora-kun@unaffiliated/neptunia) |
| 17:30.04 | *** join/#debian Cyber54170 (~machine@190.84.155.150) |
| 17:30.16 | wols | Brody: then skip it and install grub. you can install software at a later date. |
| 17:30.48 | Brody | wols ok thanks for the tips |
| 17:31.32 | *** part/#debian Packardnode (Pack@charlie.yourbnc.co.uk) |
| 17:33.19 | thaicares | Why does toggling my wifi switch change the rfkill soft blocked? isn't it a 'hard'ware block? |
| 17:33.55 | *** join/#debian Neptunia (~Sora-kun@unaffiliated/neptunia) |
| 17:34.28 | thaicares | I put an ice pack near the hot area and gotten the temp down to 109F |
| 17:35.53 | thaicares | 107F |
| 17:37.27 | *** join/#debian AL_Kernell (wernerml@189.27.144.166.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 17:37.28 | *** join/#debian alleyoopster (~quassel@197.87.145.204) |
| 17:38.46 | thaicares | [50338.733525] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Unable to initialize device <--- got it cool so turned wifi switch for a little and turned it back on, I guess I still need to reinitialize the device |
| 17:39.13 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 17:40.44 | *** join/#debian ksinny (~quassel@kde/developer/sinnykumari) |
| 17:40.52 | earthian | do you know why kolab server is not part of the wheezy repos? |
| 17:41.04 | thaicares | Ok because I think it could be a heat issue I'm gonna try to turn off, clean the computer, and restart... |
| 17:41.12 | earthian | Maybe there is a good reason apart from nobody packaging it? |
| 17:41.16 | *** join/#debian serjsj (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 17:41.32 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 17:41.34 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~oijvlj@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 17:45.21 | Brody | Last time I got to this stage, grub failed to install so lets see how it turns out this time. |
| 17:46.51 | *** join/#debian tommy_e (~tommy_e@static-5-103-129-67.seas-nve.net) |
| 17:46.54 | *** join/#debian watamacha (6028f61b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.40.246.27) |
| 17:47.14 | watamacha | hey guys what do I set kernel source path to for installation of nvidia gpu drivers |
| 17:47.48 | *** join/#debian mhmm (62c31c9e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.98.195.28.158) |
| 17:48.14 | Brody | Well, grub has succeeded and i have successfully got to the login: _ (yay i have linux finally, only took me 2 and a half weeks heh!!) |
| 17:48.37 | Brody | this is a before and after moment for me. |
| 17:49.02 | *** join/#debian ctp (~ctp@cm-84.208.145.89.getinternet.no) |
| 17:49.04 | Brody | thankyou to everyone who has helped me in this channel. |
| 17:49.29 | *** join/#debian metaphysician (~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder) |
| 17:50.27 | Mbond65 | two and a half weeks, longest install ever |
| 17:51.45 | *** join/#debian pederindi (~music@112.56.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 17:52.16 | metaphysician | I need gcc 4.1.1 on Debian wheezy. Should I enable squeeze repo and install gcc-4.1 from there? |
| 17:52.21 | *** join/#debian mossman_ (~mossman@cpe-98-148-219-75.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 17:52.27 | *** join/#debian Guest33952 (~localhost@unaffiliated/mauww) |
| 17:53.23 | *** join/#debian mossman_ (~mossman@unaffiliated/mossman) |
| 17:53.43 | drwahl | metaphysician: i don't think wheezy had any kernels compiled against gcc 4.1.1. if you enable the squeeze repo, you'll effectively be upgrading to squeeze |
| 17:53.59 | drwahl | upgrading gcc isn't something that should be done lightly |
| 17:54.36 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 17:55.19 | jelly-home | drwahl: upgrading won't happen because squeeze is older |
| 17:55.20 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 17:55.31 | drwahl | derp. good call |
| 17:55.34 | jelly-home | ,v gcc-4.1 |
| 17:55.46 | jelly-home | hmm. |
| 17:56.19 | System32 | Herp |
| 17:56.27 | *** join/#debian horsik (~username@178-37-110-109.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 17:57.05 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 17:57.41 | *** join/#debian smrtz|nix (~smrtz@unaffiliated/smrtznix/x-9775867) |
| 17:58.06 | smrtz|nix | I have a thing in my home directory, ls -a returns this: -rw-r--r-- 1 smrtz smrtz 0 Mar 8 08:55 │ |
| 17:58.11 | *** join/#debian Guest33952 (~localhost@80.255.3.126) |
| 17:58.13 | smrtz|nix | How do I remove it? |
| 17:58.27 | Brody | Well, i cant actually log in now but I have run out of time for now unfortunately. Bloody aunt and uncle are about to arrive, but all i wanna do i work on debian. ha, oh well. Its weird, the login lets me type my username but the password does let me enter any characters. |
| 17:58.50 | Brody | doesnt* |
| 17:59.13 | smrtz|nix | Brody, that's how it's supposed to work |
| 17:59.23 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@f054172206.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:59.24 | smrtz|nix | just type it any way and hit enter |
| 17:59.33 | Brody | yea that doesnt work |
| 17:59.52 | smrtz|nix | can you log in as root? |
| 18:00.01 | smrtz|nix | ehh whatever. |
| 18:00.12 | smrtz|nix | good luck doing family things. |
| 18:00.49 | *** join/#debian ToApolytoXaos (~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128) |
| 18:01.03 | Brody | smrtz|nix heh, cheerio |
| 18:01.08 | *** part/#debian Brody (4e95b6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.149.182.208) |
| 18:02.18 | *** join/#debian Kiryx (~Kiryx@109.231.18.110) |
| 18:02.20 | jelly-home | smrtz|nix: quote the character, either '' or "" |
| 18:02.24 | *** join/#debian Neptunia (~Sora-kun@unaffiliated/neptunia) |
| 18:03.23 | metaphysician | so what is the best way to install gcc 4.1 on wheezy? |
| 18:03.31 | *** join/#debian neo1691 (~neo1691@117.230.186.58) |
| 18:04.30 | neo1691 | I am using xterm and shortcuts like alt+1 alt+2 to switch the channels in weechat are not working |
| 18:05.40 | *** join/#debian tombatone (~tombatone@2a02:2028:c3:6cb0:1e6f:65ff:fe35:f7e4) |
| 18:05.43 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@90-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) |
| 18:07.41 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@85.30.104.182) |
| 18:07.42 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 18:09.40 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 18:10.46 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:11.33 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 18:12.11 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 18:12.15 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@200.149.218.105) |
| 18:12.15 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 18:13.05 | *** join/#debian VoidWhisperer (~VoidWhisp@108.61.119.67) |
| 18:13.45 | *** join/#debian Quicken2K (~Q2K@184.175.7.27) |
| 18:14.44 | Quicken2K | Hi, I'm trying to install debian 7.3 from a small image and during the install it says cannot find rt2860 firmware? |
| 18:15.43 | *** join/#debian epora75 (~dasboot13@2602:306:b825:8450:f534:d094:577d:bec0) |
| 18:15.48 | *** join/#debian rotad (~user@unaffiliated/rotad) |
| 18:16.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1371] by debhelper |
| 18:16.37 | Mbond65 | load teh firmware into teh image |
| 18:16.58 | *** join/#debian judd (~judd@unaffiliated/themill/bot/judd) |
| 18:17.09 | Quicken2K | need to get it first |
| 18:17.10 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@92.109.90.61) |
| 18:17.18 | jelly-home | ,v gcc-4.1 |
| 18:17.19 | judd | Package: gcc-4.1 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.1.2-29 |
| 18:17.58 | jelly-home | metaphysician: that could be a way _if_ it worked (I haven't tried it) |
| 18:19.21 | Quicken2K | ahhhh all hail the wiki figured it out |
| 18:21.15 | *** join/#debian phant0mas (~quassel@147.95.121.139) |
| 18:21.16 | *** join/#debian AivarasK (~aivaras@cpc6-leic16-2-0-cust425.8-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:21.45 | *** join/#debian purak (~purak@78.166.34.53) |
| 18:22.21 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 18:22.24 | *** join/#debian Scall (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) |
| 18:23.05 | kdog | clear |
| 18:23.25 | kdog | LOL. tmux strikes again! |
| 18:23.39 | jelly-home | why is my irc log suddenly empty! |
| 18:24.33 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@92.109.90.61) |
| 18:24.42 | kdog | jelly-home: better than hearing that with someone standing over you with paddles |
| 18:25.02 | *** join/#debian phantomas (~quassel@147.95.121.139) |
| 18:25.21 | *** join/#debian rojem (~rojem@pool-173-48-164-175.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:26.02 | *** join/#debian ph4n70m4s (~quassel@147.95.121.139) |
| 18:27.13 | *** join/#debian calbasi (~joan@156.190.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 18:28.54 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~jdbye@ti0010a400-5280.bb.online.no) |
| 18:29.25 | *** join/#debian jaami (~jaami@182.189.11.93) |
| 18:29.44 | *** join/#debian fritz09 (~fritz09@46.115.55.120) |
| 18:30.35 | *** part/#debian fritz09 (~fritz09@46.115.55.120) |
| 18:31.27 | *** join/#debian Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@unaffiliated/yukiteru) |
| 18:32.31 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 18:32.35 | *** join/#debian amitabha (~quassel@95.170.82.196) |
| 18:32.39 | *** join/#debian phant0mas (~quassel@147.95.121.139) |
| 18:33.44 | *** join/#debian maveas (~maveas@unaffiliated/maveas) |
| 18:35.45 | Yukiteru | hi everybody :) |
| 18:35.51 | *** join/#debian goTAN (~goTAN@HSI-KBW-095-208-250-211.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:35.52 | *** join/#debian okdas (~okdas@work.kdas.ru) |
| 18:35.59 | grindhold | i want to deliver a postgres database in a debian-package. is there any best practice to do so? |
| 18:36.46 | *** join/#debian mamtina (~ms@static-115-49.blueline.mg) |
| 18:36.53 | *** join/#debian Matrix__ (~Matrix@cpc20-nail3-2-0-cust985.18-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:37.22 | *** join/#debian bluesm (uid13438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ufhrsopklouzyyxs) |
| 18:38.03 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 18:38.30 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 18:38.37 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@90-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) |
| 18:39.32 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 18:39.43 | shovel_boss | how do i get the kernel headers specified here |
| 18:39.43 | shovel_boss | http://pastebin.com/pwsA0mwJ |
| 18:39.46 | shovel_boss | plz help |
| 18:41.05 | towo` | shovel_boss, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 18:42.02 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@71.62.245.28) |
| 18:44.09 | shovel_boss | towo`, thanks |
| 18:44.12 | shovel_boss | that works for me |
| 18:44.33 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 18:44.52 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~oijvlj@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 18:45.37 | *** join/#debian fommil (~fommil@host31-49-88-69.range31-49.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:45.45 | *** join/#debian detha (~detha@unaffiliated/detha) |
| 18:45.46 | *** join/#debian amitabha (~quassel@95.170.82.196) |
| 18:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1378] by debhelper |
| 18:47.14 | fommil | hi all. I am using i3lock to lock my screen, which is *so* much cleaner than xscreensaver. I am using xautolock to autolock my screen after 5 mins. I was thinking about using a similar approach for suspending the computer... but pm-suspend needs sudo access! Also, the screen wakes up without the lock screen after doing this. Has anyone got this set up? perms and locking |
| 18:47.18 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 18:48.25 | *** join/#debian mye (~lo@p5DE58D14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:48.31 | *** join/#debian neo1691 (~neo1691@117.230.186.58) |
| 18:50.20 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 18:50.33 | *** join/#debian HSaka (~HSaka@91.108.183.34) |
| 18:51.15 | shovel_boss | how do i take a screenshot |
| 18:51.22 | *** join/#debian neo1691 (~neo1691@117.230.186.58) |
| 18:51.24 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 18:51.37 | adc | shovel_boss: scrot |
| 18:52.03 | *** join/#debian Sagar (~FreakServ@unaffiliated/sagar) |
| 18:52.15 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 18:52.26 | Sagar | Hello, when i am trying to sync my time i am getting this error, 8 Mar 14:10:01 ntpdate[13031]: step-systime: Operation not permitted |
| 18:52.27 | Sagar | . What can i do? |
| 18:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1371] by debhelper |
| 18:56.41 | *** join/#debian iKb (~iKb@151.54.71.180) |
| 18:57.24 | *** join/#debian goTAN (~goTAN@HSI-KBW-095-208-250-211.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:58.19 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-67-38.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 18:58.45 | *** join/#debian IonelPopescu (~ionel@141.85.0.105) |
| 18:58.53 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@p5B0F5731.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:00.53 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~unsalable@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 19:02.47 | *** join/#debian jughead9 (~chatzilla@ool-44c06812.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:04.01 | *** join/#debian padma1 (~Thunderbi@59.92.167.121) |
| 19:04.12 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 19:04.16 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 19:04.33 | *** join/#debian hammad_ (uid14825@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-taipefvvrnjgsbec) |
| 19:04.55 | *** join/#debian skyflash (~skyflash@catv-176-63-90-137.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 19:06.50 | *** join/#debian brightki1l (~brightkil@185.3.33.82) |
| 19:07.23 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@92.109.90.61) |
| 19:07.38 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@c-71-62-245-28.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 19:08.00 | *** part/#debian bas70 (~bas@82-171-192-62.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 19:08.26 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@97.101.244.162) |
| 19:08.32 | *** join/#debian neantpastel (~neantpast@dsl-10-129-38.b2b2c.ca) |
| 19:10.27 | *** join/#debian gnugnu9_ (~gnugnu9@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 19:11.56 | *** join/#debian v4nelle (~van@176.92.207.184) |
| 19:12.02 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:12.35 | *** join/#debian okdas_ (~okdas@89.223.99.170) |
| 19:13.30 | *** join/#debian Noskcaj (~noskcaj@ubuntu/member/noskcaj) |
| 19:13.51 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 19:13.54 | *** join/#debian nandran (~nandran@c-68-54-236-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 19:14.41 | *** join/#debian sdkie (~chatzilla@123.201.144.6) |
| 19:15.14 | *** join/#debian Bichito (~Venom@62.83.194.117.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 19:15.14 | *** join/#debian Bichito (~Venom@unaffiliated/bichito) |
| 19:16.41 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:16.54 | *** join/#debian dyce (~quassel@2602:ffea:c::4d3f:e37e) |
| 19:17.01 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 19:17.07 | dyce | does anyone know how to change ipv6 addresses? i have a around 10 in my virtual private server. would i just rearrange in /etc/network/interfaces? or is there a command that can do this so i can automate with a script? |
| 19:17.22 | *** join/#debian jughead9 (~chatzilla@ool-44c06812.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:19.14 | *** join/#debian CEnnis91 (uid3543@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxpirpridlxnlsqk) |
| 19:20.06 | *** join/#debian sentinal8473 (~sentinal8@cpc10-sgyl30-2-0-cust348.sgyl.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:20.10 | *** join/#debian Aeiri (~brad@gxzd.x.rootbsd.net) |
| 19:20.34 | Okee | Is there a way to install Google Canary on Deb Linux? |
| 19:21.23 | *** join/#debian eb0t (~ebot@2.122.114.165) |
| 19:21.37 | *** join/#debian amitabha (~quassel@95.170.82.196) |
| 19:22.09 | abrotman | Okee: what's wrong with the regular linux instructions? |
| 19:22.48 | Okee | abrotman> I am probably not aware of the regular linux instructions because I haven't finished reading them. |
| 19:23.07 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@46.108.180.9) |
| 19:23.07 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 19:23.46 | *** join/#debian emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 19:23.53 | *** join/#debian tomatosalad (~tomatosal@pool-98-112-111-108.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 19:24.09 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 19:24.10 | abrotman | okay then .. so they might work . |
| 19:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1381] by debhelper |
| 19:26.24 | lazers | what's the factoid for shiny new shit? |
| 19:26.33 | *** join/#debian teran_ (~teran@109.188.127.218) |
| 19:26.45 | abrotman | dpkg: tell lazers about sns |
| 19:27.05 | lazers | abrotman: yes, that's it. thank you very much. i tried latest and new. :) |
| 19:28.49 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD620FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:28.58 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@188-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 19:29.09 | *** join/#debian ur725 (~ur725@nat.mtp.cmsinter.net) |
| 19:29.27 | *** join/#debian amitabha (~quassel@95.170.82.196) |
| 19:30.58 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@adsl-dyn223.78-98-84.t-com.sk) |
| 19:32.19 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@178.21.91.53) |
| 19:34.34 | *** join/#debian paddy (~patrick@unaffiliated/paddy) |
| 19:34.49 | *** join/#debian centrx (~centrx@pool-72-74-93-238.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:35.10 | *** join/#debian kayamm (~km@unaffiliated/kayamm) |
| 19:35.59 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 19:37.05 | fommil | does anyone know how to allow users to hibernate/suspend in Jessie? Seems to need sudo, which is frustrating. |
| 19:37.33 | *** join/#debian sdasdass (052ebe8e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.46.190.142) |
| 19:39.00 | *** join/#debian amitabha (~quassel@95.170.82.196) |
| 19:39.21 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 19:39.26 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@ppp-94-69-84-250.home.otenet.gr) |
| 19:39.54 | *** join/#debian Betal (~Beta@unaffiliated/betal) |
| 19:40.43 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 19:41.15 | nkuttler | fommil: why is that frustrating? |
| 19:42.17 | *** join/#debian jughead9 (~chatzilla@ool-44c06812.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:43.11 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 19:43.20 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-106-72.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 19:44.09 | *** join/#debian thingamabob (~user@unaffiliated/thingamabob) |
| 19:44.31 | *** join/#debian YamakasY (~yamakasy@g9179.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 19:44.44 | *** join/#debian wiwalde (~wee@37-44-135-47-dynamic-customer.stayon.no) |
| 19:45.39 | *** part/#debian h3ron (~h3ron@pool-108-13-227-76.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:45.54 | wiwalde | hi, my gnome volume control starts up as mute then disappear on startup! any suggestion how to access it ? |
| 19:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1388] by debhelper |
| 19:46.41 | *** join/#debian amitabha (~quassel@95.170.82.196) |
| 19:48.58 | *** join/#debian halothe23 (~halothe23@freenode/sponsor/halothe23) |
| 19:49.32 | *** join/#debian teran_ (~teran@109.188.127.218) |
| 19:50.00 | *** join/#debian RougeR (~RougeR@5.42.131.15) |
| 19:50.01 | *** join/#debian RougeR (~RougeR@unaffiliated/rouger) |
| 19:52.18 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@ppp-71-136-36-235.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 19:52.42 | *** join/#debian Yeti^ (~yer@206.225.133.1) |
| 19:52.44 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-157-238.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 19:54.14 | *** join/#debian whirli (~whirli@5.199.169.36) |
| 19:55.04 | *** part/#debian pederindi (~music@112.56.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 19:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1382] by debhelper |
| 19:56.27 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 19:57.02 | *** join/#debian eipieqng1 (~eipieqng1@184-23-156-114.dedicated.static.sonic.net) |
| 19:57.55 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@188.134.49.56) |
| 19:58.16 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@d58-106-53-121.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 19:58.35 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@188.134.49.56) |
| 19:59.19 | *** join/#debian YamakasY_ (~yamakasy@62.58.32.94) |
| 19:59.31 | *** join/#debian TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@yes.tenlab.net) |
| 20:00.10 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-74-76-247-210.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 20:02.43 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 20:05.02 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 20:05.21 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 20:05.35 | *** join/#debian cbt998 (~cyberboot@92.63.161.14) |
| 20:05.53 | cbt998 | Hi, i'm trying to setup a master-slave config, so far all is OK and everything is working just fine except that the master also is acting als webserver and i want to connect from some scripts to the slave as well to speed up some reads, now for some reason i just cannot connect... it says user@hostnameofthemaster access denied but i am connecting with the right user that resides on the slave because if i connect from another host, i can connect no problems |
| 20:06.14 | *** join/#debian grok (~grok@unaffiliated/grok) |
| 20:06.56 | cbt998 | looks like a default hostname that is added to the user automatically... |
| 20:08.22 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@109.188.127.246) |
| 20:09.20 | *** join/#debian eni (~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:09.42 | *** join/#debian seksifemale (~LR-partne@78-115-12.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 20:09.59 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-157-238.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 20:10.06 | *** join/#debian lambdak0re (~none@c-67-167-4-224.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 20:10.09 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@sd440645e.adsl.online.nl) |
| 20:10.32 | lambdak0re | how I disable ipv6 on Wheezy? Tried pretty much everything that I found on google but nothing worked so far. |
| 20:10.47 | *** join/#debian cpc26 (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 20:11.02 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang_ (~chris@cm-84.212.149.175.getinternet.no) |
| 20:11.14 | abrotman | you probably don't need to, what issue are you really trying to solve? |
| 20:12.09 | lambdak0re | I need to disable anything that is listening on ipv6 localhost etc |
| 20:12.14 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 20:12.33 | abrotman | .. And why? |
| 20:12.44 | lambdak0re | cose it's annoying |
| 20:12.45 | *** join/#debian Yeowang (~weechat@unaffiliated/jellicent) |
| 20:12.54 | lambdak0re | I'm not using ipv6 addresses |
| 20:13.01 | abrotman | Okay then .. |
| 20:13.29 | *** join/#debian Quashie (~boingredd@cpe-68-174-70-219.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 20:14.29 | *** join/#debian killbillkill (~bill@77.49.23.27.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 20:15.50 | *** join/#debian DrPc (~mehrdad@5.237.127.75) |
| 20:15.59 | *** join/#debian jmusits (~jmusits@cpe-69-205-28-169.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 20:16.03 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 20:16.15 | *** join/#debian l3lu3 (~l3lu3@unaffiliated/l3lu3) |
| 20:20.52 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@177.158.157.150) |
| 20:20.59 | *** join/#debian eir (~eir@freenode/utility-bot/eir) |
| 20:21.19 | nandran | anyone get a blank screen when they xrandr -o left? |
| 20:23.51 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~sifeic@c-76-25-249-231.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 20:24.10 | *** join/#debian `MArceLL` (MArceLL@178-164-240-20.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 20:24.10 | *** join/#debian lilibox (~franta_bi@93.99.40.10) |
| 20:24.40 | smrtz|nix | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.46 | *** part/#debian codex1 (~codex1@5.231.29.56) |
| 20:27.34 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@put92-h04-212-194-144-131.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 20:28.00 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 20:28.41 | Azrael_- | is there a way to determine wether a program is already compiled or not? (with git pull all files are marked as executable, so this is no indicator) |
| 20:29.20 | paddy | what means LM_AC_CPU_GOVERNOR and NOLM_AC_CPU_GOVERNOR in laptop-mode.conf, please? |
| 20:29.31 | centrx | Azrael_-, Is this from a public repository? |
| 20:29.58 | *** join/#debian halothe23 (~halothe23@freenode/sponsor/halothe23) |
| 20:30.01 | Azrael_- | centrx: yes |
| 20:30.06 | paddy | Azrael_-: check the file header with "file" |
| 20:30.14 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 20:30.51 | Azrael_- | paddy: thanks |
| 20:31.14 | *** join/#debian bars0_ (~Name@d132-201.icpnet.pl) |
| 20:31.46 | *** join/#debian YamakasY (~yamakasy@g9179.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 20:31.57 | *** join/#debian valerius (~user@85.26.180.143) |
| 20:32.14 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-157-238.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 20:34.24 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@184-202-217-137.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 20:35.44 | paddy | ah, i think i got it. LM means laptop-mode obviously and NOLM means not active |
| 20:35.50 | *** join/#debian sdel (~sdel@ip68-108-135-227.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 20:36.10 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@184-202-217-137.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 20:36.16 | paddy | would help if the laptop-mode.conf had defaults |
| 20:38.22 | *** join/#debian emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 20:39.08 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-203-220.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 20:40.05 | *** join/#debian hmstrmn (~hmstrmn@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 20:40.21 | *** join/#debian DarkEnergy (~DarkEnerg@unaffiliated/darkenergy) |
| 20:40.48 | *** join/#debian Streusel (~Anonymous@unaffiliated/streusel) |
| 20:41.19 | *** join/#debian amaldo (~amaldo@pdpc/supporter/student/amaldo) |
| 20:41.51 | *** join/#debian Doogy (~doogy@106-74-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) |
| 20:42.24 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 20:43.09 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@Force.thundernetworks.net eir] by eir |
| 20:43.27 | *** join/#debian Doogy_ (~doogy@89.234.151.10) |
| 20:44.03 | *** join/#debian YamakasY_ (~yamakasy@62.58.32.94) |
| 20:46.10 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@mar92-19-78-248-89-109.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:49.00 | paddy | weird, changes are not taking effect. i have to brute force echo "performance" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 20:49.39 | *** join/#debian FreezingCold (~FreezingC@135.0.41.14) |
| 20:50.30 | *** join/#debian netcrash (~net@189-106-114-165.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 20:50.35 | *** join/#debian APexil (~you@unaffiliated/apexil) |
| 20:54.48 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudiservo@78.29.155.245) |
| 20:54.52 | *** join/#debian seksifemale (~LR-partne@78-115-12.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 20:55.39 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~LordShiva@unaffiliated/lordshiva) |
| 20:55.57 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@184-202-217-137.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 20:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1372] by debhelper |
| 20:57.44 | *** join/#debian Lunchb0x (~Tyranids@CPE-75-86-153-198.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 20:58.28 | *** join/#debian diytto (~diytto@159.118.82.76) |
| 20:58.50 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@184-202-25-77.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 20:59.20 | *** join/#debian xBytez (~xBytez@unaffiliated/xbytez) |
| 20:59.20 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@177.41.8.181) |
| 21:00.13 | treaki__ | hi |
| 21:00.20 | *** join/#debian lapache (~jon@unaffiliated/lapache) |
| 21:00.25 | treaki__ | is there a way to get skype working with pulseaudio |
| 21:00.35 | *** join/#debian ju_les_ (~ju_les_@24-212-243-202.cable.teksavvy.com) |
| 21:01.59 | vimel | theres a pidgin skype plugin that automates skype setup. you may want to try to install it and run skype once you have it installed. |
| 21:02.01 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-157-238.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 21:02.22 | *** join/#debian YamakasY (~yamakasy@g9179.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 21:02.59 | *** join/#debian pozican (~pozican@cpe-76-171-171-208.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:03.17 | *** join/#debian carif_ (~mcarifio@184-198-230-4.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 21:03.27 | *** join/#debian YamakasY_ (~yamakasy@62.58.32.94) |
| 21:06.43 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 21:06.44 | *** join/#debian Juzzika (~Qman@149.154.218.10) |
| 21:07.02 | *** join/#debian Juzzika (~Qman@149.154.218.10) |
| 21:08.18 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@178.21.91.53) |
| 21:09.05 | *** join/#debian AtomicSpark (~quassel@unaffiliated/atomicspark) |
| 21:09.13 | halothe23 | How to limit cpu usage of a process to a certain percentage? |
| 21:09.34 | halothe23 | (Forced by system, possibly) |
| 21:11.53 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~user@p57A7FD3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:11.58 | no_gravity | Good Evening! |
| 21:13.04 | *** join/#debian Fusl (~Fusl@i.am.going.to.sigqu.it) |
| 21:13.15 | *** join/#debian blackest_mamba (~blackest_@2601:d:5d80:558:d0c5:a65b:35fd:2299) |
| 21:13.23 | *** join/#debian koell (~galactica@77.119.130.40.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 21:16.08 | *** join/#debian juboxi (~juboxi@87-93-86-37.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 21:16.26 | *** join/#debian jekko^_^ (973dc53e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.61.197.62) |
| 21:17.01 | jekko^_^ | What i wanna do is access through Samba (Swat) to my raspberry pi from internet |
| 21:17.11 | jekko^_^ | but i don't know where to start |
| 21:17.21 | *** join/#debian blackest_mamba (~blackest_@2601:d:5d80:558:a4a2:ecdc:475c:d5c4) |
| 21:17.24 | zinx | are you using Debian or raspian, because they are different... |
| 21:17.35 | jekko^_^ | raspian |
| 21:17.49 | jekko^_^ | wheezy |
| 21:17.50 | zinx | we can tell you how to do it in debian, but it might break your system. |
| 21:18.04 | abrotman | jekko^_^: then please use #raspbian |
| 21:18.36 | jekko^_^ | ok i will try raspbian if i will find someone who helps me |
| 21:19.08 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@ppp-71-136-36-235.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 21:20.07 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 21:21.37 | *** join/#debian Guest34173 (~Fusl@unaffiliated/fusl) |
| 21:22.45 | jekko^_^ | no reply...perhaps should I ask to ask instead of just ask? :)) |
| 21:23.03 | *** join/#debian sdkie (~chatzilla@123.201.144.121) |
| 21:23.16 | abrotman | jekko^_^: yes, just ask #raspbian, not here |
| 21:23.33 | jekko^_^ | already tried...no reply :( |
| 21:23.39 | UserError | raspbian is totally different.... they did alot of performance modifications i WISH debian would use ;) |
| 21:23.44 | UserError | then wait |
| 21:23.55 | UserError | also you can ask in #raspberrypi |
| 21:24.03 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 21:24.49 | jekko^_^ | #raspberrypi Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services |
| 21:25.00 | UserError | so identify |
| 21:25.06 | jekko^_^ | how could i? |
| 21:25.18 | *** join/#debian Routh (~routh@amateurwriting.net) |
| 21:25.29 | UserError | Do I have to google that for you? Google Freenode identify |
| 21:25.36 | UserError | literally, first page |
| 21:25.42 | *** join/#debian IonelPopescu (~ionel@p5.eregie.pub.ro) |
| 21:25.48 | *** join/#debian Packardnode (Pack@charlie.yourbnc.co.uk) |
| 21:25.52 | UserError | or look at topic on #freenode |
| 21:26.47 | *** join/#debian carif__ (~mcarifio@184-202-217-137.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 21:27.14 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@f054172206.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:27.17 | jekko^_^ | seems like i need to be a registered user to "identify" |
| 21:27.57 | *** join/#debian Holo-phil (~quassel@thefizz-195.wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) |
| 21:29.17 | *** join/#debian Routh (~routh@amateurwriting.net) |
| 21:31.24 | *** part/#debian no_gravity (~user@p57A7FD3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:31.33 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 21:32.00 | *** join/#debian Blue1 (~nwayno@c-98-225-103-14.hsd1.az.comcast.net) |
| 21:33.13 | *** join/#debian sentinal8473 (~sentinal8@cpc10-sgyl30-2-0-cust348.sgyl.cable.virginm.net) |
| 21:33.36 | UserError | It is so hard to get an email address in 2014 |
| 21:33.45 | UserError | said no-one ever |
| 21:34.27 | *** join/#debian verblendet (~volker@p57B27A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:35.34 | *** part/#debian smrtz|nix (~smrtz@unaffiliated/smrtznix/x-9775867) |
| 21:37.02 | *** join/#debian zerick (~zerick@190.118.36.79) |
| 21:37.57 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 21:40.10 | *** join/#debian deepblue (~deepblue@unaffiliated/rampageripper) |
| 21:40.11 | *** join/#debian BaFRaLI (~Dost@5.46.190.142) |
| 21:40.38 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 21:40.48 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 21:40.54 | *** join/#debian scince (~scince@193.106.31.78) |
| 21:41.15 | majuscule | I've been using d-push for a long time now with no problems/changes since first configuring. I'm suddenly getting an error on my android device, where the account is requiring admin priviledges (for remote wipe etc). I never configured that functionality, and I don't want it. What might have triggered this change/error? |
| 21:41.47 | majuscule | the phone says it can no longer connect to the server without enabling those features |
| 21:41.54 | deepblue | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.56 | majuscule | i have not updated anything server or client side |
| 21:42.04 | *** join/#debian jetblack (~jetblack@108-252-129-150.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:42.56 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@p549FD3A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:43.08 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 21:43.41 | *** join/#debian takis (5af41e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.244.30.34) |
| 21:44.03 | *** join/#debian rojem (~rojem@pool-173-48-164-175.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:45.15 | takis | hi everyone, I am seeking help and support from the Debian community with a Realtek issue which appears to affect Debian as well |
| 21:45.37 | takis | the RTL8192E/RTL8192SE card with the realtek-firmware package installed is able to detect networks, but times-out after a few minutes. |
| 21:46.18 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 21:46.27 | takis | it seems that this fix is not appropriate for my situation |
| 21:46.27 | takis | https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 |
| 21:46.33 | *** join/#debian carif__ (~mcarifio@173-127-180-193.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 21:47.10 | takis | BTW, I am as newbie as it gets! |
| 21:47.15 | takis | when it comes to linux |
| 21:47.24 | *** join/#debian Blue1 (~nwayno@c-98-225-103-14.hsd1.az.comcast.net) |
| 21:47.58 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF5D72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:48.44 | wols | takis: what is the pci id of the device? |
| 21:49.08 | takis | how do I get this? lspci -v |
| 21:49.53 | LtL | takis: lspci -nn |
| 21:51.04 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@188.134.49.56) |
| 21:51.13 | *** join/#debian Na_Klar (~x@pD9FCCA85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:51.20 | takis | wols: is this what you are after? |
| 21:51.21 | takis | 05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E/RTL8192SE Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) |
| 21:51.23 | *** join/#debian tommy_e (~tommy_e@static-5-103-129-67.seas-nve.net) |
| 21:51.39 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@188.134.49.56) |
| 21:51.51 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@78.186.152.96) |
| 21:52.16 | LtL | , pciid 10ec:8192 |
| 21:52.17 | judd | [10ec:8192] is 'RTL8192E/RTL8192SE Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel modules 'rtl8192se', 'r8192e_pci' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8192 http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 21:53.44 | LtL | takis: you need one of those two modules, which i'm not sure. maybe both but doubt it |
| 21:54.03 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@79.126.205.76) |
| 21:54.03 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 21:54.08 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF5D72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:54.18 | dvs | takis: I'd use a backported kernel |
| 21:54.20 | *** join/#debian crn (crn@adsl-108-254-73-229.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:55.06 | takis | the http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x link didnt help to resolve |
| 21:56.38 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD620FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:57.02 | takis | dvs: newbie here - is there a page on how to use a backported kernel |
| 21:57.27 | LtL | !tell takis about bpo |
| 21:57.34 | centrx | dpkg: tell takis about wheezy backports |
| 21:57.49 | LtL | takis: read the dpkg message, any questions, just ask |
| 21:59.07 | UserError | does apt-src use the dpkg perl utilities |
| 21:59.36 | UserError | libdpkg-perl |
| 21:59.39 | LtL | takis: you should backport firmware-realtek also if the kernel alone doesnt work. |
| 22:00.18 | *** join/#debian gigetoo (~gigetoo@c83-250-61-4.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:00.39 | takis | cheers guys - input appreciated |
| 22:00.47 | *** join/#debian yamba (~yamba@162.217.248.131) |
| 22:00.58 | *** part/#debian comradekingu (~comradeki@109.108.219.28) |
| 22:01.11 | *** join/#debian jbonjean (~jbonjean@unaffiliated/jbonjean) |
| 22:01.56 | takis | I have to admit that it looks like a mountain to climb but I ll give it a try |
| 22:02.08 | *** join/#debian serjsj (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 22:02.10 | *** join/#debian ParkerR (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) |
| 22:02.27 | LtL | takis: its really easy |
| 22:02.31 | takis | you see this is my first week on a linux OS so it's all new |
| 22:02.35 | *** join/#debian azizLIGHTS (~azizLIGHT@c-50-154-34-44.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:03.34 | *** join/#debian comradekingu (~comradeki@109.108.219.28) |
| 22:05.50 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 22:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1364] by debhelper |
| 22:06.33 | vimel | takis: take the time to read these. http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/intro-linux.pdf |
| 22:06.33 | vimel | http://debian-handbook.info/download/stable/debian-handbook.pdf |
| 22:06.33 | vimel | https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/install.pdf.en |
| 22:06.53 | *** join/#debian maveas (~maveas@unaffiliated/maveas) |
| 22:07.31 | takis | chers vimel |
| 22:07.34 | takis | cheers |
| 22:08.08 | vimel | np. whatever you dont know after reading those. ask here and we'll fill in the blank. |
| 22:08.10 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@178.21.91.53) |
| 22:08.34 | takis | it's just that I promised my wife a smooth transition from windows to linux... it's been a week with no wifi... |
| 22:08.59 | takis | :) |
| 22:09.42 | *** join/#debian earth (~earth@178-221-72-212.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 22:11.27 | *** join/#debian harobed (~stephane-@equ57-1-78-235-121-109.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:11.48 | *** join/#debian hmstrmn (~hmstrmn@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 22:13.34 | *** join/#debian dvheumen (~dvheumen@77-175-185-165.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 22:14.12 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 22:14.27 | shovel_boss | what was the command for the kernel headers/modules |
| 22:14.55 | shovel_boss | something like apt-get install kernel(*headers*!)! |
| 22:14.59 | shovel_boss | cant remember plz help |
| 22:15.45 | centrx | shovel_boss, Depends on your version, use apt-cache search linux-headers to find the package name |
| 22:16.14 | LtL | shovel_boss: should be, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 22:16.14 | shovel_boss | there are many headers |
| 22:16.16 | *** join/#debian joako (~joako@opensuse/member/joak0) |
| 22:16.17 | shovel_boss | i need all of them |
| 22:16.22 | shovel_boss | LtL, thats what i need thanks |
| 22:16.25 | lc | apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 22:17.14 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 22:17.48 | *** join/#debian pfdotn (~spooky@unaffiliated/pfdotn) |
| 22:17.49 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 22:17.59 | *** join/#debian horsik (~username@178-37-110-109.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 22:18.51 | takis | will give a try and let you guys - thnx - bye now |
| 22:19.35 | crn | takis, have you tried https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi? Do you have all the wireless-tools package installed? |
| 22:20.13 | *** join/#debian gensgad (~gensgad__@unaffiliated/gensgad) |
| 22:21.02 | *** join/#debian viscera (~viscera@unaffiliated/viscera) |
| 22:21.21 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@79.126.205.76) |
| 22:21.21 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 22:22.21 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@h147.143.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 22:24.28 | earthian | omfg! it works. at last it works! I managed to migrate my turbojet-sounding 50kg dell poweredge 6850 server to the new Intel NUC N2820 with Wheezy (bpo 3.12 kernel) D |
| 22:24.29 | halothe23 | Is it possible to have a script kill processes using more then 200% of CPU ? |
| 22:24.30 | *** join/#debian Blue1 (~nwayno@c-98-225-103-14.hsd1.az.comcast.net) |
| 22:24.35 | earthian | :D |
| 22:24.36 | *** join/#debian inclusa (~alfons@79.108.159.84.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 22:24.45 | halothe23 | if so can someone direct me to an appropriate script to do so? |
| 22:26.54 | *** join/#debian whirli (~whirli@91-145-75-232.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 22:28.04 | *** join/#debian maveas (~maveas@spitfire.cloudminds.dk) |
| 22:28.07 | *** join/#debian maveas (~maveas@unaffiliated/maveas) |
| 22:29.05 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-67-188-24-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:29.10 | *** join/#debian us`0gb (~0gb.us@173-8-223-194-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 22:35.03 | *** join/#debian no0p (~robert@c-67-168-202-234.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 22:36.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1358] by debhelper |
| 22:37.35 | *** join/#debian baudtack (~baudtack@unaffiliated/baudtack) |
| 22:37.49 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 22:39.02 | baudtack | anyone having problems with sometimes stuttering sound in sid? |
| 22:39.22 | *** join/#debian siso (~siso@12.230.154.6) |
| 22:42.06 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 22:42.20 | shovel_boss | is it possible to get the preinstalled xorg.conf back |
| 22:42.28 | shovel_boss | i did aticonfig --init 2 times |
| 22:42.34 | shovel_boss | and lost my original |
| 22:42.45 | shovel_boss | now the display is douublled |
| 22:43.20 | baudtack | not sure how to even debug it. I can get it most regularly happening when i try to do screencasts with ffmpeg, though it does happen sometimes seemingly randomly |
| 22:45.45 | *** part/#debian epora75 (~dasboot13@2602:306:b825:8450:f534:d094:577d:bec0) |
| 22:45.49 | *** join/#debian netcrash (~net@189-106-114-165.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 22:46.16 | *** join/#debian GJdan (~dan@154.5.205.24) |
| 22:46.22 | *** join/#debian smonchi (~smonchi@93.114.45.13) |
| 22:47.16 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~unknown@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 22:49.25 | *** join/#debian whirli (~whirli@5.199.169.124) |
| 22:49.57 | *** join/#debian linuxator (~deepblue@unaffiliated/rampageripper) |
| 22:50.40 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 22:55.23 | *** join/#debian Streusel (~Anonymous@unaffiliated/streusel) |
| 22:55.37 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~big-byte@213.37.172.228.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 22:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1351] by debhelper |
| 22:56.32 | *** join/#debian soy (42bc4b0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.188.75.10) |
| 22:57.06 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@host-244.8-234-182.cable.dynamic.kbtelecom.net) |
| 23:00.21 | soy | Backed up using tar -cvpf because the drive was 97% full. then cfdisk partitioned an 80gb, 75gb ext2 bootable, 5gb swap, then mkfs.ext4. copied the tar file to the root, extracted -xvpf, put drive in place but won't boot |
| 23:00.24 | *** join/#debian kelsoo (~kelsoo@86.53.50.178) |
| 23:01.33 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 23:01.49 | *** join/#debian MroiZo (~oizo@178.21.91.53) |
| 23:03.08 | *** join/#debian paddy (~patrick@unaffiliated/paddy) |
| 23:03.12 | soy | Backed up using tar -cvpf because the drive was 97% full. then cfdisk partitioned an 80gb, 75gb ext2 bootable, 5gb swap, then mkfs.ext4. copied the tar file to the root, extracted -xvpf, put drive in place but won't boot |
| 23:03.32 | soy | anybody have a suggestion how I can get it to boot? wheezy |
| 23:03.50 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@188.134.49.56) |
| 23:03.59 | *** join/#debian Aristide (~quassel@tok69-5-82-235-150-75.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:04.31 | kdog | soy: the bootloader needs to be installed on the new drive......nevermind. a bit impatient. |
| 23:05.23 | *** join/#debian halothe23 (~halothe23@freenode/sponsor/halothe23) |
| 23:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1345] by debhelper |
| 23:06.33 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744160023.direcpc.com) |
| 23:06.39 | *** join/#debian iDrac (~iDrac@2001:ad0:901:1:9120:a38c:f220:9b85) |
| 23:07.00 | *** join/#debian Umschwung (~Umschwung@unaffiliated/umschwung) |
| 23:07.08 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF5D72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:07.40 | *** join/#debian Umschwung (~Umschwung@unaffiliated/umschwung) |
| 23:08.40 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~big-byte@213.37.172.228.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 23:08.50 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy2020 (~mark@cpe-65-25-54-189.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 23:09.26 | *** join/#debian amitabha (~quassel@95.170.82.196) |
| 23:09.32 | *** join/#debian bertrik_ (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) |
| 23:09.38 | *** join/#debian jughead9 (~chatzilla@ool-44c06812.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 23:10.02 | *** join/#debian d1z (~djz@li673-120.members.linode.com) |
| 23:10.04 | LinuxGuy2020 | I miss the ability to search for files with nautilus including all sub directories for a certain file type and being able to copy and paste to a new folder. Is this feature long gone in gnome 3? |
| 23:10.06 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.174.93) |
| 23:11.26 | *** join/#debian dvheumen_ (~dvheumen@77-175-185-165.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 23:11.33 | *** join/#debian TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@yes.tenlab.net) |
| 23:11.45 | *** join/#debian Umschwung (~Umschwung@unaffiliated/umschwung) |
| 23:11.46 | d1z | Hello, I just installed roundcube webmail via apt-get, which is convenient since it does the configuration automatically (including the database), however, after finishing succesfully, when I try to connect to mydomain.com/mail, roundcube outputs this error |
| 23:11.47 | d1z | DATABASE ERROR: CONNECTION FAILED! |
| 23:11.47 | d1z | Unable to connect to the database! |
| 23:11.47 | d1z | Please contact your server-administrator. |
| 23:11.48 | *** kick/#debian [d1z!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.) |
| 23:11.53 | *** join/#debian d1z (~djz@li673-120.members.linode.com) |
| 23:12.32 | d1z | Sorry. But continuing, I'm afraid I'm not a database savvy person so, what suggestions can be made in order to debug this further? |
| 23:12.43 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a79-168-159-95.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 23:12.56 | xand | d1z: check your sql server (mysql?) settings |
| 23:12.56 | *** join/#debian ksinny_ (~quassel@49.248.69.102) |
| 23:13.01 | d1z | the database backend is mysql |
| 23:13.06 | d1z | xand, where? |
| 23:13.33 | *** join/#debian ash1 (~Thunderbi@82.211.220.196) |
| 23:14.10 | *** part/#debian Elrond (~elrond@irc.man-da.de) |
| 23:14.43 | *** part/#debian LinuxGuy2020 (~mark@cpe-65-25-54-189.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 23:15.15 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@181.47.158.9) |
| 23:15.29 | *** join/#debian paddy (~patrick@unaffiliated/paddy) |
| 23:16.46 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 23:17.34 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 23:19.50 | *** join/#debian crn (crn@adsl-108-254-73-229.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:19.55 | *** join/#debian mmikeym (~mikeym@184.70.65.118) |
| 23:20.08 | *** join/#debian Somefellow (~Somefello@103.4.18.127) |
| 23:21.55 | *** join/#debian camerus (1842e12f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.66.225.47) |
| 23:21.58 | camerus | hello. |
| 23:22.23 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host168-142-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:23.00 | *** join/#debian stonerfish (~stonerfis@cpe-66-74-177-67.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:23.32 | *** join/#debian |2yan (slim416@CPE602ad07a1663-CM602ad07a1660.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:23.53 | dgeary2_ | how to set system default session to 'gnome classic'? |
| 23:23.58 | *** join/#debian mezgani (~mezgani@adsl196-54-18-217-196.adsl196-9.iam.net.ma) |
| 23:24.42 | *** join/#debian ghostrat (~null@189.58.22.179.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 23:25.14 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 23:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1357] by debhelper |
| 23:26.39 | *** join/#debian sleonard (~sleonard@adsl-184-36-87-95.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:26.45 | mtn | dgeary2_: do you just want to login with gnome classic on boot? is that what you mean by default? |
| 23:27.28 | dgeary2_ | mtn, default for new user |
| 23:28.03 | mtn | dgeary2_: oh, I see. possibly in the config for the dm? |
| 23:28.38 | dgeary2_ | haven't been able to find where though... |
| 23:29.26 | *** join/#debian mikeym (~mikeym@184.70.64.138) |
| 23:29.36 | mtn | dgeary2_: /etc/gdm? |
| 23:30.02 | dgeary2_ | /usr/share/xsessions/gnome-fallback.desktop contains 'Exec=gnome-sesion-fallback' and also 'TryExec=gnome-session' |
| 23:30.04 | *** join/#debian Eurbus (~Eurbus@wsip-98-174-196-238.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:30.50 | *** join/#debian horsik (~username@178-37-110-109.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 23:31.48 | *** join/#debian YamakasY (~yamakasy@g9179.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 23:32.19 | *** join/#debian paddy (~patrick@unaffiliated/paddy) |
| 23:33.34 | dgeary2_ | mtn, have looked in /etc/gdm, didn't find anything relevant there |
| 23:33.46 | *** join/#debian bluenemo_ (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 23:35.00 | mtn | dgeary2_: I don't know for sure, but I would imagine that the custom.conf file might be something to look into. |
| 23:36.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1351] by debhelper |
| 23:36.14 | *** join/#debian jetblack (~jetblack@108-252-129-150.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:36.20 | *** join/#debian jetho (~jens@186.193.201.24) |
| 23:36.22 | *** join/#debian hitsujiTMO (~hitsujitm@unaffiliated/hitsujitmo) |
| 23:36.37 | dgeary2_ | mtn, had forgot about custom.conf .. will look into it |
| 23:38.58 | *** join/#debian centrx (~centrx@pool-72-74-93-238.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:39.01 | *** part/#debian dvheumen_ (~dvheumen@77-175-185-165.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 23:41.15 | *** join/#debian jetblack_ (~jetblack@108-252-129-150.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:41.18 | dgeary2_ | 'system default' session appears to be defined in /usr/share/gdm/BuiltInSessions/default.desktop |
| 23:41.49 | *** join/#debian paddy (~patrick@unaffiliated/paddy) |
| 23:42.23 | mtn | dgeary2_: they make it hard to find, don't they? |
| 23:42.47 | *** join/#debian paulbanks (~paulbanks@176.92.216.130) |
| 23:43.06 | dgeary2_ | mtn, i'm sure there's a reason for it |
| 23:43.16 | dgeary2_ | https://help.gnome.org/admin/gdm/unstable/configuration.html.en |
| 23:44.18 | *** join/#debian halothe23 (~halothe23@freenode/sponsor/halothe23) |
| 23:44.50 | *** join/#debian JTF195 (~JTF195@static-173-75-39-6.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:45.13 | *** join/#debian pfdotn (~spooky@unaffiliated/pfdotn) |
| 23:46.15 | *** join/#debian bitfire (~bitfire@d54C08AC3.access.telenet.be) |
| 23:47.20 | *** join/#debian YamakasY_ (~yamakasy@62.58.32.94) |
| 23:50.33 | *** join/#debian jetblack (~jetblack@108-252-129-150.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:53.22 | *** join/#debian oufo (~ET@46.246.217.230.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 23:53.48 | *** join/#debian vizzy (~volker@p57B267F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1342] by debhelper |
| 23:58.50 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@host86-156-59-69.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:59.48 | *** join/#debian dvheumen_ (~dvheumen@77-175-185-165.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
