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| 00:17.10 | ^v | it seems the ATI uninstaller deleted my nvidia LibGL.so |
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| 00:17.51 | dgeary2_ | giving up on trying to set default session in gdm3 for now. will try again later. |
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| 00:20.16 | ^v | http://hastebin.com/dirupacute |
| 00:20.22 | ^v | cant uninstall it |
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| 00:23.58 | nkuttler | ^v: firx the postrm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 00:27.51 | ^v | nkuttler, now wot http://puu.sh/7o7gt.png |
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| 00:28.48 | atari314 | By any chance does anyone know if is it possible to compile iceweasel/firefox without xulrunner? |
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| 00:30.17 | d1z | debian. one of the best operating systems in da world! |
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| 00:34.50 | intx | is there anything for debian that I can install that provides a webgui interface for iptables? like a firewall distro? |
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| 00:36.57 | nkuttler | ^v: insert a second line with set -x, re-run the command |
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| 00:39.51 | ^v | nkuttler, well i commented out that and postrm and uninstalled it ._. |
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| 00:40.31 | nkuttler | ^v: sure. usually you want to fix the problem though, not avoid it |
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| 00:54.58 | athene_noctua | Sans a simple google search, anyone recommend some nice stable CD audio ripping software from wheezy repos? |
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| 00:55.25 | A_CACTUS | sound juicer is pretty good |
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| 00:56.23 | athene_noctua | A_CACTUS: thx :D |
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| 01:07.10 | JaneSmith | do you have systemd? |
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| 01:09.11 | centrx | JaneSmith, Me? |
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| 01:09.29 | hasan5 | is this where i get help for gentoo? |
| 01:09.46 | JaneSmith | what help do you need? |
| 01:10.17 | JaneSmith | centrx i was talking about jessie |
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| 01:10.36 | themill | JaneSmith: there is a systemd package, yes |
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| 01:11.18 | JaneSmith | thought not the default yet |
| 01:11.27 | JaneSmith | though* |
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| 01:12.09 | JaneSmith | thx |
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| 03:01.57 | Urist_McPSteve_ | Does anybody know where I can go for help with configuring my fglrx setting in debian? |
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| 03:16.24 | vimel | Urist_McPSteve: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
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| 03:21.45 | johnfg_ | hi guys |
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| 03:22.46 | johnfg_ | Anyone know of a fix for the documentation bug in vim-latexsuite? I followed the README.debian, but help still isn't working. |
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| 03:27.26 | someHuman | Hello! |
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| 03:27.45 | someHuman | How do I burn a usb bootable to CD? |
| 03:28.09 | someHuman | I haven't backed up my debian .iso lol. |
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| 03:41.02 | Megaf__ | Hi all, I just did a apt-get install phpmyadmin as usual, but this time it returns 403 when I try to open it, never hapened before, any idea of what could be wrong? |
| 03:41.13 | Megaf__ | Its lighttpd |
| 03:41.24 | Megaf__ | Debian Squeeze |
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| 03:53.27 | potatoceleron | hi danbo, hope youre having better luck today |
| 03:54.02 | LonelyDanbo | eh. I stayed up late and then slept in, so I got up a while ago. Just starting back on it. |
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| 03:54.37 | potatoceleron | have you tried the debian install on the 1ghz machine yet? (yes i read what you just said) |
| 03:55.29 | LonelyDanbo | No, I d idn't try that. |
| 03:56.01 | potatoceleron | does the 1ghz machine even boot from usb? because as much as i love that feature, usually it's on nicer machines (although it's common on netbooks too) |
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| 03:56.14 | LonelyDanbo | not even sure. |
| 03:56.58 | potatoceleron | well you know, i won't pester you about it any further :) but good luck, let us know if we can help in any way |
| 03:57.23 | LonelyDanbo | From the installation instructions, the only thing they point to as doing it this way is debootstrap, it looks like. not sure if I need this "setting up a chroot" thing though. |
| 03:57.53 | potatoceleron | what's the point of setting up the chroot |
| 03:58.23 | LonelyDanbo | "chroot on Unix-like operating systems is an operation that changes the apparent root directory for the current running process and its children." |
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| 03:58.42 | LonelyDanbo | not sure. |
| 03:58.47 | potatoceleron | oh i USE chroot, just not in the context of installation. hence the question |
| 03:59.11 | LonelyDanbo | I don't know. it was mentioned on the debootstrap page as an option. |
| 03:59.17 | potatoceleron | basically if you have a working installation, and don't have any other way of resetting a user password, chroot is helpful. |
| 03:59.32 | potatoceleron | page link? i'd love to read about this method. |
| 03:59.44 | LonelyDanbo | https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 04:00.10 | LonelyDanbo | doesn't really say much about chroot on there, just links to the page about chroot |
| 04:00.30 | potatoceleron | you can boot from a cd/dvd, mount the drive partition, chroot to that from the livecd session and run passwd from there. |
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| 04:00.54 | LonelyDanbo | ah, I see. |
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| 04:01.40 | potatoceleron | oh, okay. this is a cool page. i used to be terrified of stuff like this. it makes SOME sense (haven't tried it yet of course, no need yet) |
| 04:01.59 | LonelyDanbo | but it says "debootstrap is a tool which will install a Debian base system into a subdirectory of another, already installed system." |
| 04:02.14 | LonelyDanbo | I don't want it in a subdirectory though. I want it on another HDD. |
| 04:02.37 | potatoceleron | yeah but when you mount the hdd, the mountpoint IS a subdirectory |
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| 04:02.45 | LonelyDanbo | oh ok. |
| 04:02.51 | potatoceleron | so it's another way of saying "on a hdd" |
| 04:03.03 | dequeued | a directory is just a folder |
| 04:03.24 | potatoceleron | dequeued: yeah and a mountpoint is just a subdirectory |
| 04:03.40 | dequeued | it may be on a hdd |
| 04:03.43 | dequeued | but it doesn't have to be |
| 04:03.54 | potatoceleron | right but that's where he wants it |
| 04:04.19 | dequeued | the whole point of it is that the software can't tell and doesn't need to understand anything about the underlying storage |
| 04:04.33 | dequeued | if you didn't mount the hdd, then the data would just be written to / |
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| 04:04.47 | LonelyDanbo | oh man. I'm guessing what I'm wanting to do is "create a rootfs for a machine of a different architecture" which means I need this "equivalent version written in C". Man, I hope I don't have to deal with compilers. |
| 04:05.05 | potatoceleron | i doubt compiling enters into it |
| 04:05.31 | potatoceleron | debian doesn't arbitrarily add steps, unless you're building your own distro (you're not, just installing from repos.) |
| 04:06.45 | potatoceleron | when i've compiled something that wasn't a "package" from outside the repos, a script has generally taken care of it automatically for me. as a trigger run by the apt packaging system. |
| 04:06.52 | LonelyDanbo | also came back to an unpleasant situation. for some reason my new PC turned itself off. when I turned it back on no peripherals worked and I had to hit reset. :( |
| 04:07.12 | potatoceleron | your new pc, seems haunted |
| 04:08.01 | dvs | first no USB boot, now this! |
| 04:08.07 | LonelyDanbo | maybe it's just a mixed up power saving feature. I hope it didn't overheat while I was AFK for some reason. |
| 04:08.30 | potatoceleron | it boots from the usb, the installer does not complete (it doesn't abort, it hits a wall) |
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| 04:08.59 | LonelyDanbo | are there hardware testing apps in Debian? |
| 04:09.42 | potatoceleron | debian has probably the most complete repos there are... that i know of. i don't know how crunchbang compares, but i bet it's competitive |
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| 04:09.52 | potatoceleron | so... yes? |
| 04:10.23 | potatoceleron | in any case, if you have tools for testing hw in crunchbang, no vice in using those |
| 04:10.49 | LonelyDanbo | well it's Debian derivative. |
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| 04:11.14 | potatoceleron | yeah so there you go (i wasn't sure, why did i think of slackware) |
| 04:11.33 | potatoceleron | but i would love to know a tool that could diagnose these issues. |
| 04:11.58 | potatoceleron | all i can think of are basic hwinfo type tools, i don't know if that would help |
| 04:12.35 | potatoceleron | apt-cache search hw ; apt-cache search diag |
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| 04:13.02 | potatoceleron | has to learn how to do regex search in apt-cache |
| 04:14.03 | potatoceleron | oh, same as egrep. |
| 04:14.49 | potatoceleron | apt-cache search "hw|diag" |
| 04:15.43 | LonelyDanbo | bleh. lots of unrelated results |
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| 04:16.05 | potatoceleron | yeah it's not a great query. i was hoping you'd already know some. |
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| 04:16.16 | potatoceleron | when i know what i'm looking for i narrow it down with grep |
| 04:16.25 | LonelyDanbo | ?? libboost-system-dev - Operating system (e.g. diagnostics support) library (default version) |
| 04:16.49 | LonelyDanbo | no... libraries are for coding. |
| 04:17.00 | potatoceleron | you'd need an application that uses libboost, of course |
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| 04:20.12 | LonelyDanbo | #! says put the PC to sleep when inactive for 1 hour, but I've never had it activate on the old PC. That must have been what it did, but i couldn't wake it up. keyboard was unresponsive. Power LED was out, not flashing or anything. I hit power and it came back but still left the peripherals dead. |
| 04:20.35 | LonelyDanbo | maybe I should just concentrate on installing Debian on the new HD. |
| 04:21.00 | potatoceleron | unless the debian installation takes more than an hour while you're afk, yes. |
| 04:21.18 | potatoceleron | or rather while you're afpc |
| 04:23.00 | LonelyDanbo | BTW, is using this 32bit #! to create a 64bit Debian install considered "create a rootfs for a machine of a different architecture"? |
| 04:23.02 | potatoceleron | it sounds like your usb hub (mobo) went to sleep. ironically they have usb ports now that work even when the machine is in sleep mode |
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| 04:23.32 | LonelyDanbo | yeah, when I turned my PC off previously my mouse led stayed on. annoying. |
| 04:24.01 | potatoceleron | danbo: creating a rootfs for the machine of the different architecture should do what you want. |
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| 04:24.20 | potatoceleron | but i thought you were going to install 32bit debian, and install 64bit from there, not from #! |
| 04:24.37 | potatoceleron | it's all good though (i mean #! is debian-based after all) |
| 04:25.11 | LonelyDanbo | eh... not unless it's easier that way, but that sounds like twice as many steps. then again, "different architecture" seems to be more complicated as well... |
| 04:25.37 | LonelyDanbo | "This is "cross-debootstrapping". There is also a largely equivalent version written in C: cdebootstrap" |
| 04:25.41 | potatoceleron | you should, i believe, be able to do what you're attempting. |
| 04:26.24 | potatoceleron | although this is above-average in terms of difficulty. (generally installing is easy) |
| 04:26.49 | LonelyDanbo | also I didn't see my 2nd HDD in fdisk. |
| 04:27.07 | potatoceleron | is that the one you want to install to? |
| 04:27.25 | LonelyDanbo | Yes. The new HDD I bought for the new PC. |
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| 04:27.34 | LonelyDanbo | I mean... I dunno... |
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| 04:27.59 | potatoceleron | yeah if you're going to use debootstrap, i'm pretty sure you need to be able to SEE the drive, and also mount it first |
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| 04:28.27 | potatoceleron | so this is one way to save a few steps (because you don't have to worry about debootstrap until you can mount it) |
| 04:28.36 | LonelyDanbo | The 500GB isn't technically mine. I had someone else buy it so I could make them a system which they then didn't like using. but their PC's probably dying and it might need this HDD. I don't know if it would be good for me to use a separate HDD for my system installation. that's more power consumption and heat. |
| 04:29.06 | potatoceleron | i didn't know that power supplies were this tight anymore |
| 04:29.34 | potatoceleron | i mean i just load devices onto 1ghz machines and don't think twice (unless it reboots unexpectedly, or complains in dmesg) |
| 04:29.56 | potatoceleron | and by "devices" i mean simple things like hdd and dvd, etc |
| 04:30.03 | LonelyDanbo | well I was 145W over my requirement with 1 HDD, but I'm just thinking like electricity costs. and heat. this thing seems to be inefficient at cooling. |
| 04:30.17 | potatoceleron | i don't run 16 port network switches off usb or anything |
| 04:30.21 | LonelyDanbo | hm. |
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| 04:30.56 | LonelyDanbo | It's faster to have system files on a separate HDD? |
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| 04:31.10 | LonelyDanbo | I wonder how often they're needed simultaneously... |
| 04:31.17 | potatoceleron | i've ripped out old cooling systems and just run a big box fan next to the pc-- even for a laptop |
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| 04:31.48 | potatoceleron | faster? i dont know. obviously don't use more drives than you need to (but don't hurt yourself trying to use only 1 either) |
| 04:32.09 | LonelyDanbo | I'm thinking it was a waste to buy a case. I need to make a thick wooden box to insulate sound, and then get some air vents to get cold air from the basement. :P |
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| 04:32.33 | potatoceleron | cute, although i dont trust wood for pc's. bit of a hazard, |
| 04:32.35 | LonelyDanbo | I blather too much. my head's a mess. |
| 04:32.45 | potatoceleron | otherwise i'd build my own cases for EVERYTHING |
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| 04:33.04 | LonelyDanbo | I see my 2nd HDD showed up after all. just didn't notice it. (wall of text in terminal windows) |
| 04:33.04 | potatoceleron | i'd keep blathering unless someone else here complains. they're mostly coming and going. |
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| 04:35.02 | potatoceleron | whoa. LonelyDanbo you still here? looks like a network problem or something |
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| 04:35.06 | LonelyDanbo | yes |
| 04:35.20 | potatoceleron | Walex2: what just happened? netsplit? |
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| 04:36.41 | potatoceleron | thinks the british are pretty cheeky for naming one of their major networks "sky" |
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| 04:38.46 | LonelyDanbo | eh... how do I check MD5 checksums again? GnuPG? No such command. |
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| 04:39.30 | LonelyDanbo | I put my new PC on the other side of the window on the cold back porch. insulates the noise nicely. :| |
| 04:39.40 | potatoceleron | md5sum filename |
| 04:39.54 | LonelyDanbo | thanks. |
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| 04:40.12 | potatoceleron | np at all |
| 04:40.58 | LonelyDanbo | weren't you saying something about making sure the MD5 was the same on the download as on the original? is that done manually or with another command? |
| 04:41.00 | potatoceleron | i really have to try #! sometime, just to see what it's like |
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| 04:41.34 | potatoceleron | i doubt i'll fall in love, but i assumed it was harder to use than debian (by preference of its users or devs) |
| 04:41.45 | LonelyDanbo | I find it practically the same as Unbutu except at the time I got this old version it was much more broken. (wouldn't auto-mount USB sticks, wouldn't play YouTube videos, etc.) |
| 04:42.11 | potatoceleron | i hate automount, so i'd be wary of anything that did by default |
| 04:42.31 | potatoceleron | at best a thing should pop up and offer to mount it |
| 04:42.36 | LonelyDanbo | true. |
| 04:43.06 | potatoceleron | "unbuntu" is certainly what ubuntu is becoming |
| 04:43.17 | LonelyDanbo | too many cooks? |
| 04:43.22 | potatoceleron | checking md5sums is wise if you have install trouble |
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| 04:43.52 | potatoceleron | you know how google says "don't be evil?" ubuntu means "humanity to others." both have failed imo |
| 04:44.03 | LonelyDanbo | :( |
| 04:44.17 | LonelyDanbo | You wonder if the google motto was ironic. |
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| 04:44.22 | potatoceleron | thinks debian motto should be "poke some unsuspecting person in the eye" that way if it fails to meet it, no problem |
| 04:44.39 | potatoceleron | google's real motto is "don't get caught" |
| 04:44.55 | LonelyDanbo | no. |
| 04:45.02 | LonelyDanbo | at a certain point getting caught is not a problem. |
| 04:45.14 | potatoceleron | i hate to agree, but yeah |
| 04:45.33 | potatoceleron | anyway checking md5sums is good, but i dont know if that was me |
| 04:46.18 | potatoceleron | it's as simple as this: you run md5sum on the iso, then compare it to the md5sums file from the download mirror. |
| 04:46.49 | potatoceleron | i think the md5sum command has a way to automate part of this. it's not saving you a ton of trouble unless you do it many times a day. |
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| 04:47.18 | potatoceleron | like most command line tools, it accepts more than one filename (globbing etc) |
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| 04:47.44 | LonelyDanbo | oh |
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| 04:48.15 | potatoceleron | sha1sum is better, in terms of knowing you have the right thing. but if it's just a corrupt download, md5sum should catch that |
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| 04:53.53 | potatoceleron | "you can use debootstrap to install Debian onto an unused partition from a running Gentoo system" this is really cool. |
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| 04:54.30 | potatoceleron | as far as the part about c, they weren't suggesting you compile it, they were saying it's a more streamlined (guessing less featured) version of the same tool |
| 04:54.38 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. |
| 04:54.54 | LonelyDanbo | I downloaded the tiny thing. now I'm looking for crypto info since I gotta partition the HDD first. |
| 04:55.02 | LonelyDanbo | prism-break mentioned "dm-crypt with LUKS" |
| 04:55.13 | potatoceleron | nostumh: stop spamming in pm |
| 04:55.49 | potatoceleron | that stupid webcam spambot is back |
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| 04:56.11 | potatoceleron | thanks mill |
| 04:56.25 | LonelyDanbo | they do know better. but it's worth it to try. :) |
| 04:56.35 | dvs | !wb |
| 04:56.35 | dpkg | thanks, dvs. It's good to be back. |
| 04:56.38 | potatoceleron | . o O (thanks A mill, in fact) |
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| 04:58.07 | LonelyDanbo | last night I was tempted to update #! to see if I could just do the stuff I wanted to do with Debian in it, but I figured it was a risk of screwing up the only installation that I have working right now, so I figured I'd just focus on the Debian install on the new HDD. |
| 04:58.20 | potatoceleron | wise |
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| 05:01.58 | LonelyDanbo | hm. is the partitioning of a new HDD handled with the debootstrap installer? maybe I'm overthinking this trying to find out how to partition the HDD for encryption. |
| 05:02.40 | potatoceleron | if i may guess, think of debootstrap as a fancypants tar or zip program, i can't imagine it would do your partitioning. |
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| 05:03.20 | potatoceleron | in fact to be honest, i have no idea why tar wouldn't suffice (except maybe it downloads what packages you need, handles deps, something like that) |
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| 05:04.38 | potatoceleron | if i didn't think i had better things to do at install time (but i dont...) i'd be trying debootstrap |
| 05:04.55 | LonelyDanbo | k, I'll continue encryption research. promising lead. |
| 05:05.40 | LonelyDanbo | ah crap this article's from 2007. |
| 05:06.11 | LonelyDanbo | a 2012 article linked to it as a simpler way to do it than his. :| |
| 05:06.22 | potatoceleron | maybe it still holds |
| 05:06.28 | LonelyDanbo | true |
| 05:07.08 | potatoceleron | i mean, i've read *really* old "linux" docs, but those were from 20 years ago |
| 05:07.27 | potatoceleron | and i wouldn't trust those |
| 05:07.44 | potatoceleron | but at least some of it still holds |
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| 05:12.36 | potatoceleron | oh no... |
| 05:12.38 | LonelyDanbo | does it matter if I use lvm or fdisk or other or is it all the same? this guy says "LVM makes it easier to avoid mistakes while configuring the device mapper. " |
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| 05:13.09 | potatoceleron | if lvm does what you want, it should be fine |
| 05:13.29 | potatoceleron | it wouldn't occur to me to use lvm but if it partitions, that makes some sense |
| 05:13.53 | potatoceleron | i have bad news about debootstrap... there's a lot of stuff it won't take care of that an installer would. |
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| 05:14.14 | LonelyDanbo | oh boy. |
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| 05:14.40 | potatoceleron | according to the article i'm reading, it won't setup your kernel, it won't setup fstab, it won't setup your bootloader (although the last one you probably don't want it to) |
| 05:15.24 | potatoceleron | but the kernel and the fstab, while doable by themselves, would be tedious to take care of -- much worse to assist an unfamiliar user with |
| 05:15.47 | LonelyDanbo | hm... |
| 05:15.57 | potatoceleron | the measure of userfriendly isn't what you can nearly kill yourself doing-- if it's userfriendly, you can help someone else with it fairly easily |
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| 05:16.25 | potatoceleron | davida? |
| 05:17.35 | LonelyDanbo | what? |
| 05:17.56 | potatoceleron | very vague song reference. |
| 05:18.08 | LonelyDanbo | hm. nevermind. I can't even get lvd2 running. |
| 05:18.38 | potatoceleron | whatever problems you're having with the installer, i don't think you're going to enjoy using debootstrap |
| 05:18.57 | potatoceleron | it's more complicated than i thought it was |
| 05:18.58 | LonelyDanbo | ...... |
| 05:19.26 | LonelyDanbo | is there a way I can use the installer, but tell it to get it's data from my old HDD instead of the USB stick? Maybe that'll work... |
| 05:19.56 | LonelyDanbo | assuming it's not complicated to do that without wiping the HDD. |
| 05:20.04 | potatoceleron | the solution i have in mind is-- take drive out. put in working 64bit machine. install. move drive into questionable 64bit machine |
| 05:20.30 | LonelyDanbo | both drives are in 64bit machine now. |
| 05:20.47 | potatoceleron | yes but that's the problem, your 64bit machine is weeeeeeiiiird |
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| 05:21.06 | LonelyDanbo | the other one is a 32bit machine. |
| 05:21.07 | potatoceleron | hence "WORKING 64 bit machine" |
| 05:21.18 | potatoceleron | i know. there's a 64bit machine you don't have that i'm recommending. |
| 05:21.30 | LonelyDanbo | ah |
| 05:21.35 | tidux | how do I force fontconfig to black-hole the Helvetica bitmap 100dpi and 75dpi fonts? |
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| 05:21.49 | tidux | I do want the ability to use other bitmap fonts of my choosing like Dina.pcf |
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| 05:22.00 | centrx | I use a pod of gasoline as my case |
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| 05:22.33 | potatoceleron | centrx: fine as long as its unleaded. but don't use diesel! |
| 05:23.00 | potatoceleron | thought he typed ' but it's an old keyboard |
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| 05:31.44 | potatoceleron | doesn't understand how so many users can quit for excess flood, even after reading an faq about irc quit messages |
| 05:32.44 | LonelyDanbo | I wonder if I could install this through the Win7 machine... put the HDD in there... that's assuming it's a problem with my new motherboard's USB... |
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| 05:32.51 | LonelyDanbo | I THINK it's 64bit... |
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| 05:33.16 | potatoceleron | hold on let me check if 32 bit win7 exists |
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| 05:33.55 | LonelyDanbo | looks like |
| 05:34.14 | potatoceleron | yeah microsoft.com says "To find out if your computer is running a 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows in Windows 7 or Windows Vista, do the following: Right-click My Computer, and then click Properties" |
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| 05:34.37 | LonelyDanbo | I bet there's a sticker on it saying if it's 64bit. it's that lame. |
| 05:34.39 | potatoceleron | so finally there's a reason to leave those idiotic stickers on |
| 05:34.51 | potatoceleron | get out of my head |
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| 05:36.12 | drewery | what is the difference between php and php-fpm? |
| 05:37.02 | spal | drewery, PHP is a language. PHP-FPM is a daemon that you can combine with Apache to serve PHP pages. |
| 05:37.22 | potatoceleron | "What is PHP-FPM? PHP-FPM (FastCGI Process Manager) is an alternative PHP FastCGI implementation with some additional features useful for sites of any size, especially busier sites." |
| 05:37.25 | potatoceleron | http://php-fpm.org/ |
| 05:37.49 | drewery | correct but I was wondering if php-fpm would be the default deamon I always used with apache? |
| 05:37.59 | drewery | or is this a deamon specific to nginx ? |
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| 05:38.18 | potatoceleron | drewery: that's probably fastcgi you're used to. this is an alternative to (based on?) fastcgi. |
| 05:39.08 | LonelyDanbo | no sticker. I'll have to test it. I wonder if it's worth it... *sigh* |
| 05:39.08 | spal | drewery, PHP-FPM is independent of Apache or nginx. It can work with any web server that uses the FastCGI protocol to talk. nginx and apache are such servers. |
| 05:39.27 | LonelyDanbo | I'll have lunch and then try it. |
| 05:39.42 | spal | On Apache, you would add a line like the following in your virtual host: ProxyPassMatch ^/(.*\.php(/.*)?)$ fcgi://127.0.0.1:9000/var/www/vhost/$1 |
| 05:40.04 | potatoceleron | danbo: not even on a microsoft cert sticker? (or does win7 not have those) |
| 05:40.17 | potatoceleron | win8 doesn't have certs, the key is on the bios. |
| 05:40.17 | spal | drewery, so that apache can forward the requests for PHP to PHP-FPM via FastCGI |
| 05:41.08 | spal | drewery, on nginx you'll have something like this in the virtual host configuration: fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+\.php)(/.+)$; fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; |
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| 05:41.19 | potatoceleron | if win7 has one of those goofy little "certificate" stickers it probably says which edition |
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| 05:42.46 | drewery | spal: thanks, I just got this book on nginx and wanted to learn about it... however to setup the environment I was following a tut on digitalocean and I saw this install php-fpm (setting up on debian 7) |
| 05:42.48 | molavy | hi |
| 05:43.09 | molavy | i have problem on use php mimetype detection |
| 05:43.26 | molavy | i think that is related to debian config files |
| 05:43.30 | drewery | then the questions in my mind raised as what is this, is this real php or alternative or am I doing the best method available etc... |
| 05:43.48 | spal | drewery, you're welcome! |
| 05:43.49 | molavy | command : file --mime doc.html return : doc.html: text/x-c++; charset=utf-8 |
| 05:44.53 | drewery | and thanks potatoceleron as wekk |
| 05:44.58 | drewery | **well |
| 05:44.59 | molavy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.26 | potatoceleron | :) |
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| 05:46.09 | potatoceleron | doesn't know anything about php-fpm but has seen fastcgi in lighttpd setups |
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| 05:46.25 | potatoceleron | i wrote some php a loooong time ago. can't even use php5 |
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| 05:48.31 | drewery | I do some php due to work but I am setting up this server mainly to start a new blog to keep my development notes together |
| 05:48.51 | potatoceleron | cool |
| 05:48.59 | drewery | and also going to experiment nginx for the first time |
| 05:49.23 | drewery | I mean I had couple servers that ran nginx but I didn't do the config on those so looking forward to dig into capabilities |
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| 05:50.40 | molavy | any idea? |
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| 05:51.44 | molavy | there is really no idea? |
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| 05:52.14 | potatoceleron | is squinting at the mime line, but has never had this issue |
| 05:52.38 | potatoceleron | i don't know which ones are supposed to be colons and semicolons. |
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| 06:07.27 | molavy | can someone help me |
| 06:07.28 | molavy | ? |
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| 06:08.19 | Mikaela | !tell molavy about ask |
| 06:08.56 | molavy | Mikaela: i asked before |
| 06:09.19 | centrx | :) |
| 06:09.26 | molavy | i have problem about mimetype command : file --mime doc.html return : doc.html: text/x-c++; charset=utf-8 |
| 06:09.29 | Mikaela | Oh, I can only see "any idea?" "there is really no idea?" and "can someone help me" and "?". |
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| 06:10.13 | molavy | doc.html file: http://dpaste.com/1705409/ |
| 06:11.07 | potatoceleron | he did ask originally. i just think he wasn't expecting the room to be dead (which it basically is) |
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| 06:12.45 | molavy | i also tried this <?php echo mime_content_type('doc.html') ;?> that return: text/x-c++ |
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| 06:15.38 | centrx | molavy, You might try asking in #php |
| 06:15.55 | centrx | (Obligatory note: PHP is an abomination and a scourge on the face of the earth.) |
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| 06:28.37 | molavy | centrx: i can't join #php |
| 06:28.44 | molavy | i don't know way |
| 06:28.47 | molavy | why |
| 06:28.50 | molavy | ?:( |
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| 06:29.09 | centrx | molavy, Are you identified to your nick? |
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| 06:30.29 | molavy | centrx: no , thanks |
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| 07:41.18 | LonelyDanbo | ... I should have searched more for this error... It sounds very common, as far back as at least 2010. I'm not sure why it's still around. |
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| 07:41.31 | LonelyDanbo | "This is, of course, caused by the fact that Debian-Installer looks for CD-ROM drives and tries to mount them using the iso9660 filesystem (the ISO files format). Since we are running from a USB stick, our partitions are formated as ext2 or FAT16, so they will be ignored by Debian-Installer." |
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| 07:51.14 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 07:53.13 | LonelyDanbo | there's hardly anyone talking in here. not in the past 2.5 hours. |
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| 07:54.09 | LonelyDanbo | and I know very little. |
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| 07:54.37 | centrx | America/Europe weekday daytime is the most active time |
| 07:54.50 | someHuman | How do I wipe out my USB? |
| 07:54.55 | ffog | i'm trying to track down why my rv350 radeon x1600 pci doesn't use hardware acceleration. 3.2 kernel debian 7.4 |
| 07:54.57 | someHuman | I have Debian bootable in it. |
| 07:54.58 | ffog | any tips? |
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| 07:56.06 | wols_ | ffog: what device (e.g. /dev/sdc) is your usb stick? |
| 07:56.17 | wols_ | ffog: which video driver? |
| 07:56.38 | wols_ | LonelyDanbo: typically this happens with unetbootin |
| 07:56.55 | LonelyDanbo | wols_ no, it's happening with everything. cp, cat, dd. |
| 07:56.57 | wols_ | someHuman: what device (e.g. /dev/sdc) is your usb stick? |
| 07:57.16 | LonelyDanbo | I even learned it had to be done unmounted, but that changed nothing. |
| 07:57.18 | wols_ | LonelyDanbo: what hardware do you have? what mainboard? |
| 07:57.21 | someHuman | I already formatted it haha! |
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| 07:57.25 | someHuman | Ty anyways! |
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| 07:57.56 | ffog | VMware driver, it seems |
| 07:57.57 | LonelyDanbo | AMD AM3+ socket FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor, on a Gigabyte ... crap. uh... it's a brand new system. |
| 07:58.00 | ffog | weird |
| 07:58.18 | LonelyDanbo | Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard |
| 07:58.28 | wols_ | ffog: are you running debian inside a VM? |
| 07:58.37 | ffog | no |
| 07:59.00 | ffog | OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. |
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| 07:59.32 | wols_ | ffog: dmidecode |grep VM |
| 08:00.06 | ffog | VME (Virtual mode extension) |
| 08:00.18 | LonelyDanbo | I'm not familiar enough with Linux to be able to easily tinker around and know what the problem is, so I've been searching the web a lot. |
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| 08:00.44 | wols_ | and you probably need non-free AMD firmware if you want to use the radeon driver. the package name is firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 08:00.55 | LonelyDanbo | There's something about despite the instructions saying you can use the ISO on a USB stick, that the installer tries to look for a CD drive (but that doesn't explain why other people would have no problems) |
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| 08:01.00 | wols_ | LonelyDanbo: try a debian live cd and its installer or use debootstrap from that live cd |
| 08:01.05 | yalex | vHello what is the best way to mount samba shares on a multi user computer? |
| 08:01.26 | LonelyDanbo | wols_, I don't have a CD drive. I heard debootstrap was rather advanced for someone new like me. |
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| 08:01.58 | LonelyDanbo | I have a CD drive but it's not SATA, and my motherboard is so new it doesn't bother with non-SATA. |
| 08:02.00 | wols_ | no need for a CD drive, the live cd can be put on a usb stick as well |
| 08:02.19 | LonelyDanbo | Yes. I put the CD1 on a USB stick. Same problem. It looks for a CD and can't find it. |
| 08:02.39 | wols_ | CD1 is not a live cd |
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| 08:02.52 | ffog | wols_: is there anything i need to do after installing firmware-linux-nonfree? |
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| 08:03.23 | ffog | reboot perhaps |
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| 08:04.15 | wols_ | if you still have a vmware driver used, then paste the Xorg.0.log please |
| 08:04.47 | LonelyDanbo | will I be able to setup encryption from a live CD? I'm unfamiliar with the process, though I get the impression I need to generate a random key and then encrypt that with an easy-to-remember password... but is all that managed or do I have to know how to do that before I start? |
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| 08:07.15 | ffog | wols_: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=d4UCVT86 |
| 08:08.48 | wols_ | ffog: it's using radeon as it should. "glxinfo" should show you |
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| 08:09.56 | LonelyDanbo | are all the different Debian desktop environments similarly easy to customize? |
| 08:10.06 | wols_ | yes |
| 08:10.08 | ffog | glxinfo | grep -i vendor, still gives me VMware |
| 08:10.34 | wols_ | ffog: can you pastebin the full output of glxinfo? |
| 08:11.24 | ffog | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Mkw8t9We |
| 08:12.18 | wols_ | you have rebooted so the kernel can load the firmware? |
| 08:12.32 | ffog | will do |
| 08:12.36 | ffog | thnx btw :) |
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| 08:13.04 | ffog | i'm creating a vm tho so i'll wait a minute |
| 08:13.56 | LonelyDanbo | why is the live CD image only 32KB? |
| 08:14.21 | wols_ | which image are you downloading? |
| 08:14.23 | wols_ | url? |
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| 08:14.34 | LonelyDanbo | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso.packages |
| 08:15.11 | LonelyDanbo | oh there's more above... that are larger. |
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| 08:16.35 | pabs3 | anyone have a preseed file for partitioning for a UEFI system? I have a RAID1+LVM preseed but it is for BIOS based systems |
| 08:17.59 | LonelyDanbo | uhg... 930MB. I'm guessing that'll take 2-3 hours to download. and then it'll fail to work. |
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| 08:18.52 | LonelyDanbo | lxde is 860MB. not much better. |
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| 08:19.48 | LonelyDanbo | sighs. well... it's not like I have to do anything while it's downloading or writing to the USB stick... |
| 08:20.19 | ffog | firmware is loaded, 3D Acceleration app says, Configuration file "/etc/drirc" contains errors: mandatory application attribute missing |
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| 08:21.57 | ffog | anyways it appears to work :) thanks |
| 08:22.11 | ffog | 1080p video playing 1:1 just fine |
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| 10:09.06 | fireblood | Hi, i am a new debian and beginner linux user. I read two articles, the first one saying that in the release of debian 5.0 they permitted the use of binary blobs in the debian kernel. The other one saying that in debian release 6.0 you could choose to install debian with binary blobs. Do debian from 7.0 and forward contain binary blobs? or do you have the option to exclude those binary blobs? |
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| 10:10.12 | molavy | i have problem on use php mimetype detection |
| 10:10.15 | molavy | think that is related to debian config files |
| 10:10.18 | molavy | command : file --mime doc.html return : doc.html: text/x-c++; charset=utf-8 |
| 10:10.20 | molavy | doc.html file: http://dpaste.com/1705409/ |
| 10:10.25 | molavy | i also tried this <?php echo mime_content_type('doc.html') ;?> that return: text/x-c++ |
| 10:10.39 | fireblood | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:11.12 | molavy | i asked from php some one told me ask from debian because it related to magic file and is system config issue |
| 10:11.19 | molavy | any idea? |
| 10:11.43 | nkuttler | molavy: what's the content of your script? |
| 10:12.37 | molavy | <?php echo mime_content_type('doc.html') ;?> |
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| 10:12.48 | molavy | i check this file http://dpaste.com/1705409/ |
| 10:13.23 | nkuttler | molavy: returns PHP script, ASCII text for me |
| 10:13.38 | nkuttler | test.php: text/x-php; charset=us-ascii |
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| 10:14.39 | molavy | copy content of this file and paste in local file http://dpaste.com/1705409/ return |
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| 10:15.03 | molavy | use file --mime file.html |
| 10:15.19 | molavy | paste result , it should return text/html |
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| 10:15.36 | molavy | but for me that return text/x-c++ |
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| 10:16.39 | mallxs | hi all, i did a try some programming with libmysql++-dev, but run directly in "Commands out of sync" error and could not resolve it, any hints on a other lib or dbs / lib combo ? |
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| 10:22.48 | yashi | What's the "kosher" way to install Apache 2.4.7 on wheezy? |
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| 10:25.20 | molavy | nkuttler: save as html file please |
| 10:25.31 | nkuttler | molavy: what does that mean? |
| 10:26.11 | nkuttler | fwiw, can you link to the raw version? |
| 10:26.28 | nkuttler | ,v apache2 |
| 10:26.29 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u1; jessie: 2.4.7-1; sid: 2.4.7-1 |
| 10:26.41 | yashi | So I have to move to jessie? |
| 10:26.54 | nkuttler | yashi: why do you think you need 2.4.7? |
| 10:27.04 | yashi | I want php 5.5 |
| 10:27.18 | nkuttler | sighs |
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| 10:27.23 | yashi | What? |
| 10:27.29 | nkuttler | ,v libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 10:27.30 | judd | Package: libapache2-mod-php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; jessie: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; experimental: 5.6.0~alpha2+dfsg-1 |
| 10:27.43 | nkuttler | !php paradox |
| 10:28.05 | yashi | So it's 5.3 |
| 10:28.35 | yashi | Actually I only need 5.4.4 |
| 10:28.44 | yashi | for this: http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Moodle_2.7_release_notes |
| 10:28.47 | nkuttler | there you go |
| 10:28.53 | nkuttler | 5.4.4 is in wheezy |
| 10:29.24 | yashi | Oh great |
| 10:29.27 | yashi | thanks for the clarification |
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| 10:34.21 | th3m1773n | hi debian =) |
| 10:34.28 | th3m1773n | I think this is a good place to ask: is there a way to efficiently keep track of software that's compiled from source? |
| 10:34.28 | th3m1773n | So far I just write the "make install" stdout to log files, but I'm not sure I'm catching everything that way... |
| 10:36.12 | wols_ | !checkinstall |
| 10:36.13 | dpkg | CheckInstall is a program that tracks all files installed by "make install" (or equivalent), creates a Debian (or other) package with those files, and adds it to the installed packages database, allowing for easy package removal or distribution. http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ See also <stow>. |
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| 10:37.14 | LonelyDanbo | I was looking to wipe the USB drive (currently with the CD1 on it) to put the live CD on it, and I'm wondering if dos compatibility mode would mess with the installation, or the error: "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdc'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted." |
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| 10:40.31 | fireblood | Hi, i am a new debian and beginner linux user. I read two articles, the first one saying that in the release of debian 5.0 they permitted the use of binary blobs in the debian kernel. The other one saying that in debian release 6.0 you could choose to install debian without binary blobs. Do debian from 7.0 and forward contain binary blobs? or do you have the option to exclude binary blobs? |
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| 10:41.55 | nkuttler | !tell fireblood about firmware |
| 10:42.07 | ompaul | fireblood: 7.0 doesn't force you to, BUT you may find you need to add one package of blobbyness for modern cpus |
| 10:42.22 | nkuttler | or wifi |
| 10:42.37 | nkuttler | cpus need firmware nowadays? meh.. |
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| 10:43.21 | ompaul | nkuttler: some of them need it to allow the acpi and friends work |
| 10:43.23 | fireblood | ok so if i install debian 7.0 it does not install binary blobbs without me wanting so? |
| 10:43.31 | fireblood | thanks for answering! |
| 10:43.32 | ompaul | fireblood: that is correct |
| 10:43.40 | nkuttler | ompaul: ah, ok |
| 10:43.49 | fireblood | ok thx |
| 10:43.57 | ompaul | nkuttler: (not really but ... yuk) |
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| 10:47.23 | LonelyDanbo | I'm starting to wonder if this isn't why my installation USB stick isn't working. either of them. but fixing it it making my head dizzy. |
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| 10:48.49 | LonelyDanbo | "using an MBR-only partitioning tool can leave the disk with both valid MBR data and mostly-intact GPT data." |
| 10:49.00 | th3m1773n | wols_: sry just saw your answer! thx =) |
| 10:49.15 | th3m1773n | it seems that checkinstall isn't always available though. Is that user error? |
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| 10:51.52 | wols_ | nkuttler: CPUs have needed firmware since 1995. It's usually called "microcode" and is loaded via BIOS |
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| 10:52.11 | wols_ | LonelyDanbo: it's not |
| 10:53.09 | LonelyDanbo | oh. |
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| 10:56.59 | LonelyDanbo | I shoulda tried to manually find the CD image. |
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| 11:17.24 | LonelyDanbo | well, the live CD failed to boot too. |
| 11:17.30 | LonelyDanbo | big surprise there |
| 11:18.26 | LonelyDanbo | no boot.log file found, though it said it made one. |
| 11:20.04 | LonelyDanbo | first when I selected advanced options and then hardware detect, it got stuck. parse_partition_table: error 0 ... MENU: Kernel menu done (0 items), MENU: Summary menu done (10 items)... |
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| 11:22.02 | LonelyDanbo | So I rebooted and tried the live option. modprobe: module swap not found in modules.dep (over and over and over again, this message, then finally...) BOOT FAILED! (a bunch of stuff) "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" "can't access tty;" and it said it would open a shell but it froze instead. |
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| 11:25.22 | LonelyDanbo | cries |
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| 11:33.10 | ompaul | LonelyDanbo: how did you write it to whatever medium you used? |
| 11:33.20 | LonelyDanbo | with dd |
| 11:33.27 | LonelyDanbo | unmounted |
| 11:33.38 | ompaul | md5sum the iso on the hard drive |
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| 11:34.21 | LonelyDanbo | ehhh... gotta figure that out. |
| 11:35.04 | ompaul | you go to the image you have that you wrote to the stick and in the terminal you type md5sum filename.iso |
| 11:35.14 | ompaul | you compare with the release |
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| 11:36.35 | LonelyDanbo | gotta find the release. |
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| 11:37.33 | LonelyDanbo | ah. found it. |
| 11:37.39 | ompaul | as root updatedb followed by locate .iso |
| 11:38.39 | LonelyDanbo | no updatedb |
| 11:38.45 | magnetophon | Which config file defines the default .svg program? I tried update-alternatives --all, but it's not in there.... |
| 11:39.36 | LonelyDanbo | I manually compared the md5sum and it's the same. |
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| 11:40.56 | ompaul | then I respectfully suggest you do this instead of any dd line cat filename.iso > /dev/sdN where N is the disk letter no numbers involved |
| 11:41.18 | ompaul | LonelyDanbo: you are using the release not testing |
| 11:41.36 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. I've tried cat and cp with the netinst and CD1 ISOs, and they've all failed. |
| 11:41.52 | LonelyDanbo | debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop |
| 11:41.59 | ompaul | is the usb key bust |
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| 11:42.19 | LonelyDanbo | debian-7.4.0-amd64-CD-1 , debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst , openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64 |
| 11:42.25 | LonelyDanbo | I've tried two different USB sticks. |
| 11:42.28 | Pucilowski | What do the *-updates repos hold? |
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| 11:42.42 | LonelyDanbo | It boots the installer, it just won't read the data. |
| 11:42.54 | ompaul | LonelyDanbo: because this method works for thousands of users |
| 11:43.10 | ompaul | so maybe you should use a different usb port / machine to burn it |
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| 11:43.20 | LonelyDanbo | I tried different USB ports. |
| 11:43.35 | ompaul | LonelyDanbo: the only common factor then is the box |
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| 11:43.45 | ompaul | this method works for me time and again |
| 11:43.50 | LonelyDanbo | I might try a different machine... ah shit. nope. too late. mom's awake so she's going on the PC. |
| 11:43.54 | LonelyDanbo | It's a brand new PC. |
| 11:43.56 | ompaul | LonelyDanbo: one last tip |
| 11:44.08 | LonelyDanbo | maybe it's too new. I dunno. |
| 11:44.24 | ompaul | if it already has linux installed on it |
| 11:44.27 | LonelyDanbo | I didn't get top of the line. |
| 11:44.28 | ompaul | not a problem |
| 11:44.42 | ompaul | hang on is this you can't install to this other box |
| 11:45.35 | ompaul | new boxes that are x86 based will be locked with the microsoft hater of other software you need to turn off uefi |
| 11:45.44 | ompaul | you need to tell them two things |
| 11:45.53 | LonelyDanbo | It has nothing on it, but I put the HDD with my CrunchBang installation on it from my AMD Athlon single core 1GHz CPU in it and I've been doing that but apparently installing Debian onto the new HD from the same machine is very complicated for a newbie. |
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| 11:46.07 | ompaul | not true |
| 11:46.10 | LonelyDanbo | It's AMD 64bit |
| 11:46.11 | ompaul | if it is not booting |
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| 11:46.25 | ompaul | you lifted a drive into the box |
| 11:46.33 | LonelyDanbo | AMD AM3+ FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor , Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard |
| 11:47.01 | LonelyDanbo | Yeah. CrunchBang seems to run fine on it, although I lost sound. |
| 11:47.10 | LonelyDanbo | and it's 32bit while the machine is 64bit. |
| 11:47.11 | ompaul | have you gone into the uefi and turned off |
| 11:47.20 | ompaul | boot off windows 8 |
| 11:47.27 | ompaul | and allowed legacy bios? |
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| 11:47.34 | LonelyDanbo | ... |
| 11:48.04 | LonelyDanbo | I thought I remembered seeing Win8 but it was off I think. no idea about legacy BIOS. |
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| 11:48.25 | ompaul | that might be your problem, if it is |
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| 11:48.45 | ompaul | I'm going to laugh a fair amount that it allowed you to boot without doing anything |
| 11:49.32 | LonelyDanbo | I won't. it's been 3 full days of me working at this and I'm beyond fed up. |
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| 11:51.02 | LonelyDanbo | alright I'll go check it. |
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| 12:01.10 | LonelyDanbo | oh what a surprise. it still doesn't work. |
| 12:01.32 | LonelyDanbo | I don't know what legacy support is, but it couldn't find my HDDs or the USB sticks without it. |
| 12:01.57 | LonelyDanbo | 500GB and 1TB HDDs, and a 4GB USB stick. |
| 12:02.14 | LonelyDanbo | drowns himself in pity food |
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| 12:04.45 | LonelyDanbo | I changed an option that was something about storage devices. it was like... legacy only, and I changed it to prioritize EUFI first. I dunno. |
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| 12:23.18 | RickyB98 | what's needed to send emails from debian with "mail" command? |
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| 12:32.52 | jubo2 | RickyB98: I'd guess you need an SMTP server, recipient, sender, subject and body text |
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| 12:41.55 | chrisirc | How do I manage setuid/setgid permissions in Debian? |
| 12:42.05 | chrisirc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:44.36 | RickyB98 | jubo2, i meant the software |
| 12:45.00 | themill | chrisirc: as in you want to add extra modes to a binary that doesn't normally have them? |
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| 12:46.31 | chrisirc | themill, or remove them. Different question: what permissions does /usr/bin/lppasswd on your system have? |
| 12:46.40 | themill | dpkg-statoverride |
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| 12:46.55 | chrisirc | Did you ever change them? |
| 12:47.14 | themill | root:lpadmin 4755 |
| 12:47.15 | chrisirc | Because, I don't think I ever changed mine, but they don't follow the defaults that the man page claims. |
| 12:47.31 | chrisirc | Exactly. The man page says that by default it is *not* setuid. |
| 12:47.49 | chrisirc | Also, what good is the lpadmin group if o+x? |
| 12:48.00 | chrisirc | That being cups, my guess is on: fail. |
| 12:48.45 | LonelyDanbo | I'm so fed up with trying to get Debian installed, I think I'll risk screwing up my only working computer by updating CrunchBang. |
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| 12:50.06 | magnetophon | LonelyDanbo: I'd suggest making an image of your current installation first. |
| 12:50.30 | themill | chrisirc: actually, it looks like postinst would clobber permissions set with dpkg-statoverride in any case. |
| 12:50.31 | LonelyDanbo | don't I need a backup drive for that? |
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| 12:50.52 | magnetophon | LonelyDanbo: yup |
| 12:51.03 | LonelyDanbo | I don't have one. |
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| 12:51.33 | magnetophon | LonelyDanbo: a dvd maybe? |
| 12:52.05 | LonelyDanbo | I think my blank DVDs are like a decade old, if I can even find them. |
| 12:52.12 | LonelyDanbo | can't I backup onto the same HDD? |
| 12:52.42 | LonelyDanbo | It's not like it's an image of my whole HDD that's the size of the full capacity of my HDD, right? that would be inefficient. |
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| 12:54.43 | chrisirc | themill, thanks for the hint. Looks like a triple-bug or so here. Why am I even still using cups? |
| 12:54.57 | LonelyDanbo | why am I such a useless piece of shit? everything is difficult for me. what the fuck is wrong with me? |
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| 12:55.46 | LonelyDanbo | "oh, just out of curiousity, let's see how to do this image of my installation" and there's more shit to make sense of that just doesn't make any sense now. |
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| 12:56.39 | LonelyDanbo | and there's no straight-forward way to make sense of it. I just... SMASH my idiot animal brain against the problem and hope it figures it out. smash that info in! try re-smashing this part of the info in! |
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| 12:58.37 | nkuttler | ,v irssi |
| 12:58.38 | judd | Package: irssi on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.15-2; squeeze-backports: 0.8.15-5~bpo60+1+b1; wheezy: 0.8.15-5; jessie: 0.8.15-5+b1; sid: 0.8.15-5+b1; experimental: 0.8.16~rc1-1 |
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| 13:00.32 | veek | why isn't dnscrypt a part of wheezy? |
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| 13:00.52 | veek | apt-cache search showed nothing - is it safe to use? |
| 13:01.32 | chrisirc | LonelyDanbo, desktop operating systems have a history which makes them difficult to understand when starting out. Perhaps you want to use a pre-installed system, or rather a tablet or chrome book instead? |
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| 13:02.55 | Brigo | veek, why not dig? |
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| 13:03.47 | LonelyDanbo | I'm middle-aged now. when am I going to stop being an idiot? |
| 13:04.04 | LonelyDanbo | I don't want to be doomed to this forever. |
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| 13:04.15 | veek | LonelyDanbo, death do us part |
| 13:04.29 | LonelyDanbo | I built my own system. I can't be... that stupid. |
| 13:04.31 | phantomer | hello,my firefox can't listen to online music,this is the problem of flash? |
| 13:04.32 | veek | dig's a grave for Brigo |
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| 13:05.06 | Brigo | veek, and dnscrypt? |
| 13:05.07 | chrisirc | Building your own system isn't difficult compared to understanding an operating system, really. |
| 13:05.09 | veek | phantomer, check out mplayer for streaming music |
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| 13:05.33 | johndoe | why are some packages held back when doing an upgrade? |
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| 13:06.11 | chrisirc | LonelyDanbo, also, it take time investment; also, try to find people in person with which to exchange experiences? |
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| 13:06.38 | phantomer | veek but in chromium is normal |
| 13:06.57 | LonelyDanbo | How does sharing experiences factor into.... things? |
| 13:07.00 | Brigo | veek, i said nothing. |
| 13:07.00 | chrisirc | LonelyDanbo, perhaps you'll find a Linux user group nearby? (Those have been more active in the past but still exist.) |
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| 13:07.55 | veek | phantomer, for flash you need to install flash player from adobe (which is what i did i think) |
| 13:08.12 | LonelyDanbo | I mean, I much prefer someone giving me as much guidance as I need but... that's rarely something I can get. There's IRC, but the truth is I can't expect strangers to be expert teachers and give me everything I need. (even when they are nice enough to offer to help) |
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| 13:08.39 | phantomer | thanks,i try again. |
| 13:08.47 | phantomer | veek thanks,i try again. |
| 13:09.03 | Mikaela | phantomer: If you have enabled non-free in sources.list you can "aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" |
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| 13:09.28 | LonelyDanbo | I don't know what the problem is. I thought it would be relatively easy. I mean, possible for me to do. I didn't think I'd need to be intimately familiar with everything in order to get it working. |
| 13:09.56 | chrisirc | LonelyDanbo, it's a fact that Desktop OS installations are complex enough that they need computer specialists to maintain properly. Which is one of the main reasons why tablets&co are so successful now. |
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| 13:10.19 | veek | LonelyDanbo, stackoverflow |
| 13:10.22 | chrisirc | No reason to be ashamed if you're not into this. |
| 13:10.35 | LonelyDanbo | veek, are you saying I'm typing too much? |
| 13:10.46 | Aayush | how to run this command line in background : "php5 bot.php bot.conf" ? |
| 13:10.46 | phantomer | Mikaela thanks |
| 13:10.59 | Mikaela | You're welcome |
| 13:10.59 | veek | LonelyDanbo, nope |
| 13:11.04 | chrisirc | LonelyDanbo, http://stackoverflow.com/ |
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| 13:12.09 | LonelyDanbo | it says that's for programmers. (while I have tried coding in the past and want to try it again, isn't OS installation and maintenance outside of that subject?) |
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| 13:13.09 | Aayush | anyone can help please? |
| 13:13.11 | Aayush | how to run this command line in background : "php5 bot.php bot.conf" ? |
| 13:13.26 | veek | Aayush, & |
| 13:13.31 | veek | ls& |
| 13:13.38 | LonelyDanbo | I guess I should just stick with the easy-mode Linux distros. I dunno. Maybe I just got lucky having no problems installing CrunchBang and Debian isn't any more difficult than CrunchBang. (I don't know.) |
| 13:13.48 | chrisirc | LonelyDanbo, probably the majority of us learned to use Linux/Unix/etc. before there was stackoverflow, thus we won't know. |
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| 13:14.37 | Aayush | but after closing the terminal console the script is closed |
| 13:14.48 | veek | Aayush, nohup |
| 13:15.02 | veek | nohup xclock& |
| 13:15.11 | Aayush | can u tell the syntax of nohup for php5 bot.php bot.conf ? |
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| 13:15.22 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, superuser.com. |
| 13:15.28 | Aayush | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:16.32 | LonelyDanbo | k, thanks. will look into it. |
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| 13:16.47 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, and server fault |
| 13:16.53 | Brigo | serverfault.com |
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| 13:19.02 | LonelyDanbo | huh. I didn't even see the sister site links. Ubuntu, Unix/Linux, game development... |
| 13:19.27 | Aayush | this " nohup xclock& php5 bot.php bot.conf " doesnt work |
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| 13:21.16 | dokma | tried to rsync a live system over to my new kimsufi box but couldn't get it to boot no matter what |
| 13:21.47 | veek | dokma, mbr ptable? |
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| 13:21.51 | dokma | so I installed debian from kimsufi interface on a radi array and degraded it to try to copy my old system to sda |
| 13:21.53 | dokma | gpt |
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| 13:22.23 | dokma | so I degraded my md1 to try to use sda to copy the old system and boot it using virtualbox |
| 13:22.37 | dokma | now I'm stuck at grub2 not seeing my partitions |
| 13:22.50 | dokma | which are lvms on a degraded raid array |
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| 13:23.09 | dokma | when I try to boot from sda with virtualbox I get into rescue prompt |
| 13:23.26 | dokma | and ls prints just (hd0) |
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| 13:23.35 | dokma | insmod lvm does not work |
| 13:23.40 | dokma | so I'm kind of stuck |
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| 13:24.08 | dokma | so this is my setup: host booted from degraded raid array on sdb |
| 13:24.25 | dokma | old system copied to a degraded raid array with lvms on sda |
| 13:24.39 | dokma | virtualbox running from host trying to boot from sda |
| 13:25.15 | dokma | in virtualbox grub just prints error: no such disk |
| 13:25.21 | dokma | and drops to a rescue prompt |
| 13:25.34 | dokma | I can't get anywhere googling |
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| 13:26.43 | dokma | when trying to run update-grub2 from chroot it naturally sees the sdb disk |
| 13:26.49 | dokma | so that might be the problem |
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| 13:27.15 | dokma | but I don't know how to trick grub to generate grub.cfg for sda istead of sdb from which I'm booted atm |
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| 13:27.22 | iz2rpn | hi all |
| 13:27.43 | wols_ | then you shouldn't use hd0 |
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| 13:28.05 | phantomer | hi iz2rpn |
| 13:28.16 | veek | virtualbox requires .. processor support to load OS from disk |
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| 13:28.27 | iz2rpn | anyone knows tell me how to configure a pxe server? |
| 13:28.29 | veek | and not image |
| 13:29.01 | veek | afaik |
| 13:29.32 | dokma | veek, I already boot from partitions using vb |
| 13:29.38 | dokma | that's not a problem |
| 13:29.47 | dokma | the problem is that my setup is not correct |
| 13:29.57 | dokma | and grub can't tell what it's supposed to boot |
| 13:30.09 | dokma | and I don't know how to trick it into setting itself up correctly |
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| 13:31.24 | veek | can you mount the fs using a rescue disk.. is the fs okay - i didn't quite follow what you were doing |
| 13:31.52 | veek | and not an expert at this so.. |
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| 13:32.24 | dokma | yes, the fs mounts no problem |
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| 13:32.59 | iz2rpn | help me! how to configure a pxe server?I suggested a simple tutorial? |
| 13:33.19 | veek | okey and you copied the gpt? |
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| 13:33.32 | veek | the first few sectors |
| 13:33.53 | veek | rsync won't do that for you |
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| 13:34.59 | veek | grub i think has 3 stages so when it fails i think you can isolate where it;s failing |
| 13:35.17 | dokma | veek, I didn't copy gpt |
| 13:35.31 | dokma | I built the entire partitioning scheme on the new machine |
| 13:35.43 | dokma | from the partition table to the raid to lvm and filsystems |
| 13:35.47 | dokma | then I did a rsync |
| 13:35.56 | veek | ah.. dear me |
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| 13:36.22 | dokma | veek, thanks for helping, I appreciate |
| 13:36.23 | veek | now hold on.. raid is immaterial atm |
| 13:36.34 | dokma | well that's a bit tricky to understand |
| 13:36.35 | veek | ah kay |
| 13:36.41 | dokma | since I could not boot the copied system |
| 13:36.45 | dokma | this is what I did |
| 13:37.09 | dokma | I installed via kimsufi interface a debian system onto a raid array and booted into it |
| 13:37.14 | veek | nm prolly waste your time |
| 13:37.17 | dokma | then I degraded the array to free sda |
| 13:37.32 | dokma | ahhh... ok |
| 13:37.36 | dokma | thank you anyway |
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| 13:46.23 | Aayush | any idea how to run it in background ? |
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| 13:47.49 | anddam | hi, I'm looking for a program to keep a process running, should it crash |
| 13:48.40 | anddam | I'm doing a simple while [ 1 ]; process; end but I guess there are options with more feature in Debian repositories. Can anyone suggest some names? |
| 13:51.10 | anddam | I'm looking for spawn/respawn in packages description, with no good results |
| 13:51.15 | anddam | what term should I be looking |
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| 13:52.02 | Aayush | nvm probem solved |
| 13:52.41 | Mikaela | I think I have heard about such application, but I can't remember what it was. |
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| 14:00.57 | turtlehat | anddam, you want some sort of watchdog |
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| 14:03.00 | anddam | ok |
| 14:03.03 | anddam | any name' |
| 14:03.05 | anddam | ? |
| 14:03.29 | turtlehat | no sorry,i just know the concept is called a watchdog |
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| 14:04.34 | anddam | thank's I'll check it |
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| 14:06.13 | turtlehat | perhaps start the process as a daemon |
| 14:06.20 | anddam | or I'll just create an init script that does the aforementioned while thing |
| 14:06.59 | anddam | is there a template for init.d service in the system? |
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| 14:09.18 | turtlehat | anddam, start-stop-daemon |
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| 14:12.05 | mms_ | netinst iso image < 256mb available for i386 so it can easily fit on my usb 256MB ? |
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| 14:12.30 | mms_ | I see one on web site is some 277 mb |
| 14:13.09 | wols_ | mms_: maybe the one for squeeze is smaller |
| 14:13.22 | mms_ | wols_: let me check |
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| 14:14.03 | wols_ | yes it is. 191MB |
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| 14:14.42 | blackest | hi is this the right place to find out how to get php working with apache2 on debian? |
| 14:15.52 | wols_ | sure |
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| 14:17.25 | mms_ | wols_: thanks...I see...will make usb bootable using it....my existing debain shows 686pae and then 486.....I want to remove 686 menu item ...how to do it ? |
| 14:17.32 | blackest | i'm setting up a server and its mostly going well I can serve html ok but with php i get "couldn't perform authentication. AuthType not set!: /phpinfo.php" in the apache2 log |
| 14:18.03 | wols_ | mms_: uninstall the 686 kernel |
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| 14:18.18 | mms_ | wols_: using dpkg ? |
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| 14:18.28 | wols_ | mms_: the same way you uninstall anything else |
| 14:18.36 | mms_ | let me see |
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| 14:19.48 | wols_ | blackest: which apache version and which debian? by default there is no AuthType to set |
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| 14:20.19 | blackest | wols:7.4 and apache2.2 |
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| 14:21.54 | wols_ | blackest: what is the output of: grep -r -i AuthType /etc/* |
| 14:23.12 | blackest | wols: apart from cups stuff its /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf: AuthType Basic |
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| 14:23.31 | wols_ | suit yourself if you don't want to show the output. good luck |
| 14:23.36 | issphp | Question: if i had a sudden reboot just now, and i had a unsaved GEDIT document open.. is it saved somewhere in the system ??? |
| 14:23.37 | turtlehat | anddam, or , not standard but, http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/supervise.html |
| 14:23.47 | anddam | turtlehat: thanks, what about start-stop-daemon? |
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| 14:23.52 | blackest | wols: i didnt want to flood the channel |
| 14:24.15 | anddam | turtlehat: you mean the command? I'm asking for a skeleton init.d to edit |
| 14:24.53 | turtlehat | cat /etc/init.d/skeleton |
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| 14:25.23 | blackest | grep -r -i AuthType /etc/* |
| 14:25.25 | blackest | /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default:DefaultAuthType Basic |
| 14:25.26 | blackest | /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default: AuthType Default |
| 14:25.26 | blackest | /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default: AuthType Default |
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| 14:25.28 | no_gravity | Good Afternoon! |
| 14:25.33 | no_gravity | interesting, cat /dev/urandom | pv -a > test gives me only 6mb/s. is urandom so slow? |
| 14:25.45 | dvs | yes |
| 14:25.46 | no_gravity | /dev/zero gives me several times that much. |
| 14:26.01 | no_gravity | what would be a good command to check the write speed of a hd? |
| 14:26.08 | wols_ | hdparm |
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| 14:26.33 | no_gravity | wols_: really? what would be the command? |
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| 14:26.51 | wols_ | and bonnie |
| 14:27.42 | blackest | new that would happen ... |
| 14:28.09 | no_gravity | wols_: i do not see how hdparm can help. |
| 14:28.40 | blackest | wols: http://paste.debian.net/86474/ |
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| 14:28.53 | issphp | Question: if i had a sudden reboot just now, and i had a unsaved GEDIT document open.. is it saved somewhere in the system ??? |
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| 14:29.08 | anddam | what in order to start a command only once at boot? |
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| 14:29.31 | anddam | I mean not at level changes |
| 14:29.35 | anddam | maybe rc.S or so? |
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| 14:29.41 | kanliot | issphp yes] |
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| 14:30.13 | issphp | kanliot, the swap file doesnt contain the latest update.. |
| 14:30.14 | Resilience | I'm having trouble with bridging two computers (computer 2 through computer1 with this configuration http://pastebin.com/kx9Lpg89) I am using debian, an old version which cannot be updated to use bridgetools, and I would lik to know how to do it with only route add, anyone can help me please? |
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| 14:32.55 | mns | issphp: what filesystem type are you using, ext3, ext4, etc ? |
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| 14:36.12 | LonelyDanbo | will dump make a backup that's only the size of the files, or the size of the whole logical partition that's backed up? |
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| 14:38.20 | LonelyDanbo | should I just backup the root folder before attempting to update? |
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| 14:41.07 | LonelyDanbo | it looks like I only have... / and /home (and some stuff that's not /dev/sda, like /lib/init/rw, /dev, and /dev/shm.) |
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| 14:43.05 | n-st | i've configured my raspberry pi to use dhcp to configure eth0. it automatically selects the ipv6 link-local address (fe80::a96:d7ff:fe25:bd64) of my router as its dns server and writes it to /etc/resolv.conf -- but since a link-local address doesn't work without specifying an interface (e.g. fe80::a96:d7ff:fe25:bd64%eth0), this completely breaks dns resolution. |
| 14:43.24 | n-st | what can i do to circumvent that (other than setting the dns server manually)? |
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| 14:50.29 | mms_ | I have bad usb drive which in windows shows up format dialog and then fails to format. so thinking to see if virtualbox guest debian will able to mount or identify it so I can fix it ? |
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| 14:51.47 | mms_ | dmesg is not showing any activity when I put in the usb |
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| 14:52.56 | n-st | have you enabled the usb drive in virtualbox? |
| 14:53.13 | n-st | by default, the drive will only be connected to your host system, not the virtualbox guest |
| 14:53.16 | blackest | mms_: what does lsusb say can it see it ? |
| 14:53.26 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, are you tring to backup a debian box? |
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| 14:53.41 | LonelyDanbo | It's CrunchBang, but it's Debian-based. |
| 14:54.09 | mms_ | n-st: I just added one to list now in virtual box |
| 14:55.04 | n-st | mms_: you should be able to just click the usb icon in the bottom right corner of the virtualbox guest window and select the drive to connect it |
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| 14:55.23 | mms_ | blackest: lsusb does not show the usb drive |
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| 14:55.50 | mms_ | n-st: after enabled also it seems dmesg is not showing...may be since host os itself is failing ? |
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| 14:56.58 | blackest | mms_: try it with a good usb drive if that works then its likely your duff usb drive is broken |
| 14:57.14 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, so with your home dir, /etc and a list of installed package should be enough to restore you system. |
| 14:57.15 | mms_ | ok let me try |
| 14:57.25 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, but a complete backup will be better :-) |
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| 14:58.02 | mms_ | do I need to restart the VirtualBox vm ? |
| 14:58.03 | LonelyDanbo | "with my home dir"? Can I avoid backing that up? That's not really at risk when I'm updating the system, is it? I want to put the backup file IN /home |
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| 14:58.48 | n-st | mms_: nope, just plug in and activate the other drive |
| 14:58.59 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, some times, /home get deleted by user's mistakes. That's why we make backups. |
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| 14:59.27 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, but if you feel brave, you can go on :-) |
| 14:59.30 | issphp | mns, ext4 |
| 14:59.53 | mms_ | well host has opened the drive fine but debian guest is not showing it |
| 14:59.59 | LonelyDanbo | I dunno what I'm doing. I'm so tired. I just want it to be over. |
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| 15:01.22 | Brigo | Resilience, computer2 is connecting to router and computer1? |
| 15:01.49 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, so go on, but remember do not format disk! :-) |
| 15:01.53 | Resilience | brigo have you seen the pastebin? |
| 15:02.18 | Brigo | Resilience, yes, there are 2 computer2, at least. |
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| 15:02.59 | LonelyDanbo | I wasn't planning to. hm. I just gotta make sure that the default folder it's putting the backup in is in... crap... in /home instead of root. I guess? maybe root isn't at risk. It's just... system files that could get messed up? |
| 15:03.11 | Resilience | brigo oh my, I'm sorry, I ddi not erase the wrong computer2, just ne minute |
| 15:03.39 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, no in root neither in home. |
| 15:03.49 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: so your backups are only supposed to protect against config screw-ups, not hardware failures? |
| 15:04.05 | mms_ | sounds like vbox is just not showing usb |
| 15:04.22 | Brigo | Resilience, dont worry, do you want to bridging the eth0 ant eth1 of computer1, dont you? |
| 15:04.38 | Resilience | Brigo, that's right |
| 15:04.49 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: you could just create /backup for that, then |
| 15:04.50 | Brigo | and the problem is? |
| 15:04.50 | LonelyDanbo | I just need to protect against mistakes when I'm updating, which I want to do now. |
| 15:05.14 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: or use etckeeper for your config: https://github.com/joeyh/etckeeper |
| 15:05.19 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, configs are in /etc |
| 15:05.19 | mms_ | now it says virutual box usb driver installed successfully |
| 15:05.21 | LonelyDanbo | n-st, how's that work? I just got done trying to find out how to use dump. |
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| 15:05.22 | mms_ | let me check now |
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| 15:05.46 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: um, which of the two? |
| 15:05.58 | LonelyDanbo | I just want to not fuck everything up when I update. |
| 15:06.03 | LonelyDanbo | why is everything complicated |
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| 15:06.19 | Resilience | Brigo, the problem is that with the conf fils that I have put in the pastebin there is no bridging for computer2... computer2 is non-accesible |
| 15:06.25 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, you are doing the complicated way. |
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| 15:06.31 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: it isn't exactly complicated, it just depends heavily on your use case what you'll want to do |
| 15:06.48 | LonelyDanbo | Brigo, well how am I supposed to know? |
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| 15:07.20 | mms_ | lsusb now shows the bad drive with someid |
| 15:07.26 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, do you want to install debian? |
| 15:07.34 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: protection against hardware failures: rsnapshots to external device. protection against config screw-ups: etckeeper. protection against accidentally deleting stuff: rsnapshots to somewhere on your normal hard drive. |
| 15:07.36 | mms_ | how to now go about trying to fix it or format it ? |
| 15:08.01 | mms_ | lsusb shows the bad usb with some id |
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| 15:08.27 | LonelyDanbo | installing Debian is too much of a challenge right now. I just want to update CrunchBang. I'm so tired. I've been trying to install Debian for 3 days. 3 days, all day. I don't have a job. I've just been at this. 3 days. I hate my life. I hate myself. I want to die. |
| 15:08.30 | lgp171188 | I have a HP G4 1201tx laptop running debian wheezy amd64. It has a dual gpu setup (intel-amd). The display switches off during the boot if I don't turn off ACPI. Once I boot with ACPI off, GNOME desktop complains that it is running in the fallback mode. How can I fix these? |
| 15:08.37 | Brigo | computer2 is connected to computer1 through hub? |
| 15:08.39 | n-st | mms_: alright, look if it shows up as a drive: ls sd* |
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| 15:09.31 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: linux will generally help you aim, even if your about to shoot yourself in the ... foot. :) |
| 15:09.33 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, about update crunchbang, i sorry, but i never used it so i cant help very much. |
| 15:09.47 | Resilience | Brigo, right becuase there is a wifi router connected to that hub, for nothing else |
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| 15:10.02 | paddy | pats LonelyDanbo on the back - you can do it |
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| 15:10.11 | mms_ | n-st: I think its /dev/sdb |
| 15:10.15 | LonelyDanbo | CrunchBang is Debian derivative. I'll try to figure out update on my own, but backup should be similar. |
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| 15:10.30 | n-st | mms_: do you only have /dev/sdb or also /dev/sdb1 and so on? |
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| 15:10.40 | Brigo | Resilience, can you ping computer2 from computer1 without bridging? |
| 15:10.52 | mms_ | n-st: sdb |
| 15:10.57 | n-st | mms_: if you don't your partition table is done for. |
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| 15:11.15 | LonelyDanbo | It wouldn't be so bad if I had a life. a stable mind that could handle little setbacks like not being able to install an OS on the new PC that you spent 3 months researching and shopping for before buying. |
| 15:11.17 | mms_ | n-st: so now what to do ? |
| 15:11.22 | LonelyDanbo | I gotta shut up. |
| 15:11.30 | mms_ | how to partition it then ? |
| 15:11.35 | Brigo | LonelyDanbo, so read the squeeze-wheezy upgrade, and good lock :-) |
| 15:11.54 | n-st | mms_: do you want to try and rescue any data from it? |
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| 15:12.05 | Brigo | luck* |
| 15:12.06 | mms_ | n-st: no...I can wipe it |
| 15:12.28 | n-st | mms_: good, that makes things easier. |
| 15:12.35 | mms_ | just want to make it functional |
| 15:12.43 | Resilience | Brigo, without bridging? what do you mean? with that configuration? no, it asys it is unreachable |
| 15:12.50 | mms_ | cfdisk ? |
| 15:13.23 | Brigo | Resilience, so the problem is not the bridge. |
| 15:13.50 | mms_ | mkdosfs -F 32 -I /dev/(USB Device) |
| 15:14.05 | Resilience | Brigo, maybe the problem is the routing, but as far as I understand, I think the routes are all right, aren't they? |
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| 15:14.59 | mms_ | trying mkdosfs on it |
| 15:15.06 | LonelyDanbo | n-st, etckeeper... |
| 15:15.22 | n-st | mms_: i haven't used cfdisk before... most of the time i was lucky enough to have access to gparted :) |
| 15:15.26 | Resilience | Brigo, ping 192.168.1.20 PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.10 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 15:15.32 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: what about it? |
| 15:15.41 | WormFood | why in the hell won't my sata3 hard drives and controllers run at sata3 speeds? I've checked and double checked everything, but it's still running at sata2 speeds. |
| 15:15.49 | LonelyDanbo | I don't know. |
| 15:15.49 | mms_ | n-st: I read about mkdosfs and trying it |
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| 15:16.11 | n-st | mms_: good luck :) |
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| 15:16.41 | c3p0_ | hey guys |
| 15:16.53 | c3p0_ | I'm trying to install debian with the 7.2 netinstall iso |
| 15:17.03 | c3p0_ | it freezes at the "scanning mirror" process |
| 15:17.12 | c3p0_ | is it a known bug? |
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| 15:17.21 | n-st | c3p0_: beep! bee-beep beep. beep beep. |
| 15:17.27 | WormFood | how long did you let it wait, before determining that it was frozen? |
| 15:17.28 | mms_ | well its stuck...this bad usb is 128gb fake which is just 1gb in reality...got fooled on ebay |
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| 15:17.43 | WormFood | what did the log console virtual console say? |
| 15:17.49 | c3p0_ | WormFood: it's been frozen for about 10 mins now |
| 15:17.55 | pabs3 | c3p0_: check the logs on console 4 |
| 15:17.56 | LonelyDanbo | why do I need to download something to backup my /etc folder? Can't I just copy it? Is that the only thing at risk from updating the OS? |
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| 15:18.04 | c3p0_ | pabs3: thx, will do |
| 15:18.08 | mms_ | ok mkdosfs completed without any error |
| 15:18.10 | WormFood | mms_, you know, you can frequently find the usb memory controller software, and reformat the memory stick so it shows the correct size |
| 15:18.12 | mms_ | now how to check |
| 15:18.13 | n-st | c3p0_: hmm, that would've been funnier if the nick change to R2D2 had actually worked... |
| 15:18.40 | c3p0_ | :> |
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| 15:18.46 | mms_ | WormFood: can you provide link or debian program |
| 15:18.51 | pabs3 | c3p0_: or you can get a busybox shell on console 2 and use nano to look at /var/log/syslog if you want searchability |
| 15:18.52 | WormFood | no |
| 15:19.06 | WormFood | nothing for debian. Everything I've seen runs on XPee :( |
| 15:19.18 | WormFood | won't even work right on Winblows 7...even in compatibility mode |
| 15:19.19 | mms_ | ok I hope it formatted now how to test it ? |
| 15:19.26 | Resilience | Brigo, ? |
| 15:19.27 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: etckeeper puts your /etc under version control (by default git), so you can diff and switch between versions of your config |
| 15:19.30 | mms_ | cp a.txt /dev/sdb ? |
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| 15:19.38 | WormFood | I use badblocks with a random pattern |
| 15:19.51 | Brigo | Resilience, the firewall rules are a problem try to clean them and put the default policy to ALLOW. Then try again. |
| 15:19.51 | pabs3 | mms_: trusting that sounds like a bad idea |
| 15:19.57 | WormFood | it's a pseudorandom pattern, so it can see if it wraps around |
| 15:20.01 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: way more convenient (and automated) than just copying everything and then trying to figure out which update broke what |
| 15:20.17 | mms_ | pabs3: well want to check whether it formatted fine and is usable ? |
| 15:20.26 | c3p0_ | pabs3: nothing useful on either tty |
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| 15:20.57 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: well, updates will also overwrite binaries in /usr/bin and so on, but generally, the config will be the hardest to restore when something goes wrong |
| 15:21.10 | c3p0_ | pabs3: on tty4 it just says wget blahblah grep -E (suite|Codename)... |
| 15:21.40 | c3p0_ | seems like the choose-mirror just froze there |
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| 15:22.10 | n-st | pabs3: a little late, but: why nano instead of less? |
| 15:22.14 | LonelyDanbo | ... can I just use etckeeper init ? |
| 15:22.28 | pabs3 | n-st: not installed in d-i but nano is |
| 15:22.44 | n-st | pabs3: what kind of messed up system is that? |
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| 15:22.59 | pabs3 | n-st: the Debian installer |
| 15:23.03 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: you've downloaded the debian release, i guess? then yes |
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| 15:23.31 | pabs3 | c3p0_: try the command on your other computer, what do you get? |
| 15:23.37 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: (haven't looked at the other releases so i'm not sure if you'd need to edit etckeeper.conf) |
| 15:24.09 | LonelyDanbo | I don't think that did anything. |
| 15:24.41 | n-st | have you done make install before that? |
| 15:24.59 | LonelyDanbo | .... no. |
| 15:25.07 | LonelyDanbo | what? |
| 15:25.10 | n-st | ah, you should :) |
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| 15:25.35 | LonelyDanbo | I'm tired. I haven't even looked at how to update the OS. |
| 15:25.51 | b_52globe | guys i'm working on debian wheezy to try to rise the ulimit |
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| 15:26.00 | b_52globe | but it always display 1024 |
| 15:26.01 | pabs3 | anyone have a debian-installer preseed file for partitioning for a UEFI system? I have a RAID1+LVM preseed but it is for BIOS based systems |
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| 15:26.14 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: alright, step by step: download and unpack https://github.com/joeyh/etckeeper/archive/debian/1.11.tar.gz. change into the extracted directory, "sudo make install", "etckeeper init" and you're all set for now |
| 15:26.17 | b_52globe | i i modified /etc/security/limits.conf: |
| 15:26.20 | b_52globe | but no change |
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| 15:26.40 | MrPopinjay | Hello all. I've installed the Ruby2.0 package on a Debian testing install. Does anyone know how I would set this as my default Ruby version? the "ruby" command runs 1.9.3 |
| 15:27.09 | c3p0_ | pabs3: no can do, only winblows on this computer :/ |
| 15:27.13 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: "sudo etckeeper install", sorry. |
| 15:27.27 | LonelyDanbo | looks like I don't need to download that. "make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop." |
| 15:28.08 | n-st | that shouldn't happen... are you in the right directory (and running it as root)? |
| 15:28.09 | pabs3 | c3p0_: try loading the URL in your browser and searching for Suite or Codename |
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| 15:28.39 | LonelyDanbo | I did a aptitude install etckeeper to get etckeeper. |
| 15:28.58 | pabs3 | c3p0_: or use grep/wget from gnuwin32 http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:29.01 | MrPopinjay | Aha, found it in good old update-alternatives |
| 15:29.03 | MrPopinjay | thanks guys |
| 15:29.06 | MrPopinjay | seeya |
| 15:29.07 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: the post-install script will have done everything for you, then. |
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| 15:29.21 | n-st | you shouldn't even need etckeeper init anymore |
| 15:29.35 | n-st | s/shouldn't/won't/ |
| 15:30.08 | LonelyDanbo | ... |
| 15:30.37 | c3p0_ | pabs3: sure. Suite and Codename is stable and wheezy |
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| 15:31.27 | pabs3 | c3p0_: do you have network in the installer? does this command print a default route? ip are |
| 15:31.46 | c3p0_ | yup |
| 15:32.05 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: i installed mine from source because the ubuntu package is completely outdated... |
| 15:32.10 | LonelyDanbo | so... what? if I did... aptitude install etckeeper , and then etckeeper init, I'm done? I don't think that did anything. |
| 15:32.18 | n-st | not sure about the debian/crunchbang ones, though |
| 15:32.38 | mms_ | will try gparted now since mkdosfs probably did not fix any thing |
| 15:32.40 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. this old version of #! is outdated too but... |
| 15:32.50 | c3p0_ | pabs3: it pings fine towards google's dns too |
| 15:33.08 | n-st | aptitude install etckeeper will have checked your /etc into (probably) a git repo |
| 15:33.18 | n-st | you can try ls /etc/.git* |
| 15:33.18 | mms_ | and will try create just 1GB partition on it |
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| 15:33.43 | pabs3 | c3p0_: I'm out of ideas then, unless your network is really really slow |
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| 15:34.10 | LonelyDanbo | n-st, I don't know what the results mean though. |
| 15:34.18 | abdel | Hi, does anyone knows how to configure an http proxy system wide without logout and login . The only way i know is by using "export htt_proxy=.." but if i need it to bee system wide i would have to add it to .bashrc then logout and login, but i need to do so withoout leaving my current sesssion . Any suggestion? |
| 15:34.24 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: whenever you install, update or uninstall packages, etckeeper will now automatically commit all config changes to the repo |
| 15:34.25 | c3p0_ | pabs3: yeah, me too. I've never encountered this before. I get a 22ms respond with ping so there shouldn't be any connection problems |
| 15:34.46 | pabs3 | c3p0_: DNS issue maybe? |
| 15:34.48 | n-st | when something breaks, you can use the version control system to see what's changed and fix it |
| 15:35.07 | LonelyDanbo | ok. thanks. sorry I'm so helpless. |
| 15:35.14 | c3p0_ | pabs3: don't think so |
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| 15:35.45 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: ls /etc/git* was just to check if /etc is in the repo already. unless it said something about a file not found, you're all set. |
| 15:36.10 | Brigo | abdel, you can export "export htt_proxy=" from the console without logout and login |
| 15:36.52 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: and nevermind being helpless, that happens to the best of us -- and that's when we seek help from the people round here :) |
| 15:36.53 | abdel | Brigo, there is another way to change proxy settings without logging out and login in ?? |
| 15:37.09 | Brigo | abdel, if you want to make it system wide you have to put it in a script what executes allways, like /etc /profile |
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| 15:38.02 | n-st | Brigo: or put it in /etc/environment |
| 15:38.11 | abdel | Brigo, in fact i would not mind if only applies to the current user |
| 15:38.39 | abdel | but what i really need is that it takes effect "on the fly" |
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| 15:38.46 | Brigo | abdel, i cant see the problem. |
| 15:39.17 | Brigo | abdel, it take effect on the fly, yes. |
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| 15:40.07 | Brigo | if you run a program after export http_proxy that program will use this var, (if they are configure to) |
| 15:40.12 | n-st | Brigo, abdel: are you sure about htt_proxy? shouldn't that be HTTP_PROXY? |
| 15:40.37 | abdel | n-st, your correct |
| 15:40.52 | n-st | the capitalisation matters, too |
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| 15:41.30 | LonelyDanbo | I think to upgrade the OS I just type: apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 15:42.11 | abdel | Brigo, but only in the current shell session for example if i run that in a xterm and then i run from the system menu the browser it wouldnt work |
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| 15:42.51 | Brigo | abdel, if you put the http_proxy en /etc/environment or /etc/prifile, then yes. |
| 15:43.40 | abdel | Brigo, ok i will try , thanks |
| 15:43.50 | Brigo | np :-) |
| 15:44.08 | LonelyDanbo | looks like I just do update, then dist-upgrade. gonna close down for that. *fingers crossed that it's this simple after all this* |
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| 15:44.39 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: that updates everything including kernel packages, but usually not the actual distribution versions. ubuntu has do-release-upgrade for that, e.g. |
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| 15:47.56 | n-st | btw, don't get me wrong: apt-get dist-upgrade differs from apt-get upgrade in that it also installs new packages when they're required to upgrade existing ones. usually, that just applies to the kernel meta-packages, so i gave them as an example. |
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| 15:48.16 | LonelyDanbo | I can't tell if it upgraded. |
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| 15:48.50 | LonelyDanbo | nope. Statler still popping up to make comments. :P |
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| 15:50.34 | n-st | LonelyDanbo: for the crunchbang-specific upgrade stuff, you could ask on #crunchbang |
| 15:50.42 | LonelyDanbo | yeah. true. |
| 15:50.47 | LonelyDanbo | thanks. |
| 15:51.03 | n-st | you're welcome :) |
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| 16:01.26 | thaicares | So I was having A LOT of issues with my wifi, I thought maybe it was a heat issue (laptop is at 122F right now) and tried to cool it down. |
| 16:01.48 | thaicares | it helped a little! but for some reason my wifi has just been working for nearly a day now |
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| 16:02.15 | thaicares | without much extra efforts in reducing the heat |
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| 16:07.03 | mms_ | gparted as root says cannot open display :0.0 |
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| 16:07.47 | byt3b0mb | hi folks - need some help with vncserver on raspbian - for some reason it will only use open box and not lxde |
| 16:07.51 | byt3b0mb | i can't figure out how to switch it |
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| 16:08.38 | wols_ | !raspbian |
| 16:08.38 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 16:09.06 | wols_ | mms_: use gksu or similar to start it |
| 16:09.39 | mms_ | ok |
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| 16:10.50 | byt3b0mb | dpkg: thanks asked in the raspbian and got no answer ill try again |
| 16:10.50 | dpkg | my pleasure, byt3b0mb |
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| 16:18.54 | mms_ | gparted is failing to format the 1G partition on usb |
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| 16:19.37 | mms_ | before running gparted on doing mkdosfs the files windows had opened |
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| 16:21.42 | mms_ | says unknown parition table in dmesg |
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| 16:23.39 | shingouz | mms_: try mkfs on it |
| 16:24.11 | mms_ | ok |
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| 16:29.17 | mms_ | well gparted worked fine this time and I created 1G fine and was able to mount it and save file to ti |
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| 16:55.18 | mms_ | can I create fat32 10G partition on usb drive using gparted ? |
| 16:55.58 | kei1 | yes |
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| 17:03.58 | mms_ | ok |
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| 17:07.03 | gnugnu9 | There is a bug in dch (Debian Wheezy) which adds an additional message line 'Rebuild for squeeze-backports.' for command `--bpo --distribution wheezy-backports "Rebuild for wheezy-backports."`. |
| 17:07.14 | gnugnu9 | Or do I use the arguments in a wrong way? |
| 17:08.52 | OsBin | got error E: The package xplico needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. where to loock for a problem? |
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| 17:09.31 | jhutchins | gnugnu9: You might try #debian-mentors on oftc.net. |
| 17:09.44 | jhutchins | gnugnu9: Well populated, but I don't know how active it is on a Sunday. |
| 17:09.55 | gnugnu9 | Just wanted to report it |
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| 17:10.07 | jhutchins | ,v xplico |
| 17:10.11 | judd | No package named 'xplico' was found in i386. |
| 17:10.27 | jhutchins | OsBin: Where did you get it? |
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| 17:14.50 | refrijerator | Hello, I am in middle of upgrade of stable: squeeze --> wheezy. Uninstalled big packages to save disk space. Ran "apt-get -o APT::Get::Trivial-Only=true dist-upgrade" to see how much space I need, it says it will pull openoffice.org again (which I just removed). Tried to purge it, says "Virtual packages like 'gnome-office' can't be removed". I don't suppose openoffice is obligatory to have? |
| 17:17.54 | wols_ | refrijerator: it's not, but some other packages depends on it (or just recommends it) |
| 17:18.02 | wols_ | disable recommends for the time of your upgrade |
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| 17:32.21 | refrijerator | It still wants to pull openoffice.org again (which I just removed). "Virtual packages like 'gnome-office' can't be removed". Can I get this "gnome-office" (whatever it is) to require something like abiword instead? |
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| 17:48.41 | jeeves_moss | how do I connect to a WiFi network via tne CLI? or add the details to my interfaces file? |
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| 17:52.49 | vjt | jeeves_moss: you have to create a wpa_supplicant configuration file, and then start wpa_supplicant by hand on it |
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| 17:53.13 | vjt | jeeves_moss: however beware that if you have gnome networkmanager the two things will conflict |
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| 17:53.50 | vjt | jeeves_moss: if your network is not protected by a password, then just an iwconfig your-wlan-card essid 'your net name' will be enough |
| 17:53.55 | jeeves_moss | vjt, this is an embedded box. it's a beaglebone |
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| 17:54.52 | jeeves_moss | vjt, I got it to connect to the AP, now to get it to give me a DHCP address!! |
| 17:55.25 | vjt | jeeves_moss: ah, ok - in that case, you may have a dhcp client already installed, that'll query your dhcp server for you to obtain an IP address |
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| 17:55.40 | vjt | jeeves_moss: have a look if you have "dhclient" or "udhcpc" or "pump" |
| 17:56.41 | vjt | jeeves_moss: also, for /etc/network/interface configuration, have a look at https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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| 18:08.23 | jeeves_moss | vjt, thanks. I think I'm having a power issue here. whenever I start to load down the connection, it shuts off |
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| 18:14.33 | jeeves_moss | vjt, yep, it's a power issue |
| 18:14.34 | fommil | hi all. I have a USB WiFi that works (intermitently) under Jessie with the correct firmware, but when I boot into Wheezy, although the kernel drivers/firmware seem to load, it is never able to get a DHCPOFFER from the network. I'm using the same interfaces file on both systems. Any ideas what could be different? This is from a fresh server-only install of wheezy. |
| 18:15.39 | fommil | btw, the usb is rtl8192cu and also works fine from my raspberry pi running raspbian |
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| 18:21.58 | fommil | rebooting into wheezy again... I'll disconnect |
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| 18:22.19 | salah | hey |
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| 18:23.24 | capri | i modified an iso disk and used genisoimage to build a new one. everythin works fine until the cd-checkt at the installer. that told me -> the cd /dev/sr0 is not a debian cd |
| 18:23.39 | capri | how can i fix that? |
| 18:23.49 | frostschutz | why do you modify the iso in the first place? |
| 18:24.09 | capri | i want a custom boot splash |
| 18:24.20 | well_laid_lawn | it's a capri cd not a debian one |
| 18:24.42 | capri | can i disable that check or something? |
| 18:24.49 | salah | I cannot to my wireless connect which I used to connect to, each time it trys to connect the network manage pop a message in the bottom of the screen saying "connection failed activiation fo the network connection failed." |
| 18:25.24 | salah | is there a configuration files to reset, or anything to do about ? |
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| 18:27.08 | jhutchins | salah: What desktop are you using? |
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| 18:27.48 | salah | jhutchins: I'm using gnome 3. |
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| 18:28.45 | jhutchins | salah: Ok, I'm on xfce, but if I right click the nm icon, I have an option to "Edit Connection". That actually takes me to a connection manager tabbed by type, where I can choose a connection and Add, Edit, or Delete. |
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| 18:28.59 | jhutchins | salah: You should have something similar. |
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| 18:30.03 | neo1691 | Hi! Apparently mpd is unable to read my local music directory! Can someone help me how do I do that? Make my music files readable to mpd. Assuming that the i have my music in $HOME/Music |
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| 18:31.10 | ghostlines | hi, ever since I loaded a kernel via kexec I get these weird errors after an apt upgrade: https://dpaste.de/PStS .Any tips are appreciated |
| 18:31.42 | salah | jhutchins: Yeah, you have right I have nm too, when I click on it a window pop, I chosen wireless, but when I click to connect on my wireless connection, the same previous message pop. |
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| 18:44.02 | jhutchins | salah: So remove the connection and add it again. |
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| 18:46.44 | touki | Hi guys. |
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| 18:48.44 | touki | Small proble here. I think I had, few weeks ago a problem with my grub. I do not remember if it was because of a windows 8 update or because of debian update. Right now I'm on live-usb trying to install-grub sda1 but it does not seem to work. any idea ? My sda1 partition is GPT, dont know if it is relevant. |
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| 18:52.28 | touki | Do someone knozs how to reinstal grub |
| 18:52.50 | Mikaela | touki: "grub-install /dev/sda" as root. |
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| 18:53.00 | Mikaela | Same should work with live-cd. |
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| 18:54.02 | touki | Mikaela: Tx, got this "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)." |
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| 18:54.38 | Mikaela | I don't know about that error, maybe someone else here knows. |
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| 19:03.04 | cybrNaut | a lot of preseed lines end it "error".. what's that about? |
| 19:03.30 | cybrNaut | my install went pretty smooth |
| 19:04.04 | cybrNaut | e.g., one such line looks like "partman-lvmpartman-lvm/vgdelete_errorerror" |
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| 19:04.52 | cybrNaut | hmm.. tabs got lost in that it seems. should be "partman-lvm partman-lvm/vgdelete_error error" |
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| 19:06.13 | jhutchins | !fixgrub | touki |
| 19:06.33 | jhutchins | No bot? |
| 19:06.48 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 19:06.51 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
| 19:07.08 | jhutchins | So many bots, so many different syntaxes. |
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| 19:08.09 | jhutchins | touki: Like that. |
| 19:09.28 | touki | jhutchins: hmmm. so I boot on the live-usb ; I switch to the console before entering on live debianm or from a live debian its okay |
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| 19:18.21 | TheWarden | hello |
| 19:18.44 | TheWarden | I'm on a Dell Studio 1737. How can I get the wifi working? It's not even being detected. |
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| 19:18.58 | TheWarden | wired connection is the only thing that works. |
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| 19:21.06 | TheWarden | I believe this is what the system has, Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) |
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| 19:22.27 | jhutchins | TheWarden: lspci -nn should show you. |
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| 19:23.15 | neo1691 | I would like to know that whether .desktop files work on i3? The ones which are used to autostart when a xsession starts? |
| 19:23.26 | TheWarden | jhutchins: yes, indeed. That is what I have. |
| 19:24.55 | TheWarden | neo1691: they are not hardware dependent. It's just a shortcut file. |
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| 19:25.46 | TheWarden | so I came across this page, https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Studio1535 however allot of stuff was installed but it failed. I'll try to get the failure messages. Not even sure if this would apply to the 1737 model. |
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| 19:26.10 | Mocque | Hello. Is there anyone there good in textpad/assembly language? |
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| 19:26.22 | TheWarden | this worked fine, aptitude install broadcom-sta-source |
| 19:26.39 | TheWarden | however when I tried to build it with module assistant, that is when the failure occurred. |
| 19:26.59 | cybrNaut | okay, i'll ask a more basic question... do you guys trust the preseed file produced by debconf-get-selections? or do you make edits/deletes? |
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| 19:27.29 | TheWarden | yes I get "Build of the package broadcom-stat-source failed! How do you wish to process?" |
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| 19:27.29 | TheWarden | I have view, continue or stop. |
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| 19:27.35 | TheWarden | I tried continue but that didn't help. |
| 19:28.28 | TheWarden | I'm not sure how to copy and paste out the failure message. I'm in some console ANSI dialog. |
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| 19:31.07 | xingu | TheWarden: you need to free the bird, it'll attack the green snake |
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| 19:33.13 | sevenfou1k | TheWarden: you can redirect stdout into file and put that file to some paste site. |
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| 19:37.26 | TheWarden | I'll try to get the log if this one other solution doesn't work. |
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| 19:47.25 | alteregoa | hi |
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| 19:47.43 | alteregoa | i am looking for a service watchdog to restart service if they crash or something |
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| 19:58.49 | mintux | i removed my mail.log file but after restarting postfix they didn't generate i think it's related to OS |
| 19:58.55 | TheWarden | brb |
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| 20:10.14 | dokma | is there any way to do what bios does when it starts up mbr from a booted system? |
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| 20:11.02 | dokma | or at least simulate it or something |
| 20:11.35 | ytrezq | Hello, How I may build an initramfs with just the kernel modules required by my hardware (vmware Vsphere 32-bits). |
| 20:11.37 | ytrezq | ? |
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| 20:12.42 | Martiini | ytrezq, I have no idea .. but .. I know you can build only kernel with modules built in |
| 20:13.11 | Martiini | ytrezq, won't the kernel build script build everything .. including initrd |
| 20:13.12 | paddy | !liquorix |
| 20:13.12 | dpkg | Zen is :)(:, or a school of Mahayana Buddhism, or the Zen kernel: a variant of the Linux kernel optimized for desktop systems, including code not present in mainline. Liquorix kernel image packages (http://liquorix.net/) are Zen-based and are not supported in #debian, use #zen-sources on irc.rizon.net instead. http://zen-kernel.org/ Not to be confused with <Xen>. |
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| 20:13.58 | paddy | Rizon Net *fear* |
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| 20:14.25 | paddy | prods Sh1G3rU with a cattle prodder |
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| 20:16.07 | Sh1G3rU | hello paddy |
| 20:16.07 | Sh1G3rU | :P |
| 20:16.16 | Sh1G3rU | whats up |
| 20:16.33 | paddy | :D |
| 20:16.55 | paddy | i am building chromium os! |
| 20:17.06 | Sh1G3rU | why ? |
| 20:17.14 | paddy | cause i wanna be hip |
| 20:17.49 | Sh1G3rU | lol i stick with firefox to be safe and stable |
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| 20:18.00 | paddy | :*) |
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| 20:20.17 | paddy | Sh1G3rU: and you? everything ok? |
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| 20:23.05 | Sh1G3rU | paddy, yup everything ok except i was fired 3 days ago :P i need to find another job :) |
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| 20:23.29 | paddy | Sh1G3rU: o*it :( |
| 20:23.48 | Sh1G3rU | yup |
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| 20:24.17 | zorganite | hi everyone |
| 20:24.32 | zorganite | I'm trying to use the open source radeon drivers in Debian |
| 20:24.38 | zorganite | but glamor support is not compiled in |
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| 20:25.04 | ytrezq | Martiini: What I mean is that using the initramfs with all the modules of the default linux package result in an uncessary large initrd. |
| 20:25.11 | zorganite | I've tried compiled the xorg-ati drivers using the glamor libs from Ubuntu |
| 20:25.21 | zorganite | but apparently that is not enough |
| 20:25.25 | zorganite | any guidelines? :) |
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| 20:28.05 | paddy | !glamour |
| 20:28.22 | paddy | !glamor |
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| 20:29.09 | Martiini | ytrezq, arch linux has custom kernels .. for specific laptop types |
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| 20:29.39 | Martiini | ytrezq, I know , I wish I'd get custom kernel for my laptop .. but it makes little difference |
| 20:29.41 | zorganite | !glamor |
| 20:29.42 | Martiini | ok ciao |
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| 20:47.57 | mintux | how to reset system log ? |
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| 20:49.26 | biledemo1 | I want to update to jessie. Do I just change 'wheezy' to 'jessie' everywhere in my /etc/apt/sources.list? What if I wanted to upgrade to sid? |
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| 20:49.52 | centrx | dpkg: tell biledemo1 about wheezy->jessie |
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| 20:50.40 | mintux | i removed my mail.log but it doesn't create anymore |
| 20:50.40 | towo` | biledemo1, if you have to ask such questions, you shouldn't use testing or unstable |
| 20:50.45 | mintux | i restarted postifx |
| 20:50.54 | mintux | i think this logs wrote by OS |
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| 20:52.41 | pmopit | biledemo1 you can do that for play on a separate prytion where you installed a copy of your primary partition |
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| 20:53.45 | pmopit | biledemo1 playing with this will likely lead you to trouble you may well better do it for a start on a sandbox |
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| 20:56.57 | biledemo1 | relax everyone. I'm using Virtualbox |
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| 20:57.36 | paddy | mintux: i am unsure about postfix but in the future you can set a file to 0 bytes by a command like ": > file". this would keep the permissions of the file |
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| 20:58.14 | eikenb | or 'truncate -s 0 file' |
| 20:58.20 | eikenb | truncate is in coreutils |
| 20:58.26 | mintux | paddy: correct i think it's like apache that i restart it makes log again. how can i restart syslog daemon in debian ? |
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| 21:04.27 | dokma | hmmm... I don't get this |
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| 21:04.53 | TheNewBeginner | Hi everybody |
| 21:05.01 | dokma | so when grub installs into MBR it puts a few bytes of code there that should find the device with root partition and load initramfs |
| 21:05.04 | TheNewBeginner | I am a newbeginner on linux destriutions |
| 21:05.06 | dokma | am I right on that? |
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| 21:05.14 | TheNewBeginner | distributions* |
| 21:05.31 | TheNewBeginner | can some1 tell me how to download tools on my debian 7 OS? |
| 21:05.31 | centrx | dokma, Yes? |
| 21:05.38 | centrx | TheNewBeginner, What kind of tools? |
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| 21:06.01 | dokma | centrx, well it works when my root is on /dev/md0 but not when I put it on /dev/vg0/root |
| 21:06.05 | TheNewBeginner | I want a scanner that is named joomscan |
| 21:06.10 | dokma | so with RAID works but with LVM no go |
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| 21:06.23 | dokma | and it's a remote dedicated server so I can't see the boot result |
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| 21:07.24 | centrx | TheNewBeginner, I don't think that is included in Debian |
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| 21:08.54 | TheNewBeginner | yes. |
| 21:09.00 | TheNewBeginner | you are right centrx. |
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| 21:09.31 | TheNewBeginner | So am I gonna go to the iceweasel webbrowser and download it from there? |
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| 21:10.33 | centrx | TheNewBeginner, There is a nice how-to for installing joomscan on Debian-based distributions if you search online |
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| 21:11.06 | dokma | how to figure out what is wrong in the boot process on a remote server? |
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| 21:13.15 | acu | dokma: your question is so vague, does your sever boots up at al ? what hardware and debian version do you have in it ? do you have ILO or DRAC ? |
| 21:13.32 | dokma | boots when I install on raid |
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| 21:13.39 | dokma | when I install raid + lvm no go |
| 21:13.45 | dokma | debian wheezy |
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| 21:13.54 | dokma | don't know about ILO or DRAC |
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| 21:14.57 | acu | what RAID level - is it software or hardware RAID, how did you configure your LVM ? maybe you should have a /boot not on LVM ? |
| 21:15.14 | dokma | soft RAID 1 |
| 21:15.31 | dokma | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.47 | dokma | same setup as on my old dedicated server |
| 21:15.55 | dokma | but on the kimsufi machine I can't get it to boot |
| 21:16.02 | acu | yes, it looks quircky to me, I would go for /boot on its own |
| 21:16.13 | dokma | roger that |
| 21:16.16 | dokma | will give it a go |
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| 21:16.37 | acu | the bios in the new server might have choices for your HDDs (AHCI, RAID) etc - if you do softRAID make sure you have AHCI etc |
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| 21:19.06 | nonconvergent | Hey I once came a cross a xorg.conf setting that let me set some optional/suggestion resolutions in addition to my existing onces. I'm intersted in finding this again because it allowed me to run an old game (nwn) at specified window resolutions instead of defaults, and I have a funky resolution I'd like it to run at, 1920x1060, on my 1920x1060 screen. |
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| 21:19.42 | nonconvergent | modes/mmodelines? |
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| 21:21.45 | LonelyDanbo | I managed to install Debian using the Windows7 PC's motherboard and CPU. but now that it's installed, the USB mouse and keyboard don't work. Menu shortcuts don't seem to work for anything but alt-F2 either. how do I fix it? |
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| 21:23.05 | LonelyDanbo | alt-space and alt-F1 do nothing. |
| 21:23.42 | LonelyDanbo | I installed xfce desktop environment. |
| 21:24.28 | vimel | LonelyDanbo: did you check for UEFI compatibility in BIOS? it should be set to legacy or disabled for Linux to properly be installed. |
| 21:24.33 | liske1 | when you have remote desktop then alt-f1 don't work you muss run terminal from gui other run from putty |
| 21:25.04 | LonelyDanbo | there's no remote desktop. |
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| 21:25.13 | LonelyDanbo | it's THE desktop. |
| 21:25.21 | liske1 | ok sorry |
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| 21:26.19 | LonelyDanbo | what disabled? Legacy or UEFI? |
| 21:26.43 | LonelyDanbo | I only have options to use one, the other, or both, not neither. |
| 21:26.53 | nonconvergent | MetaModes! |
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| 21:27.48 | vimel | UEFI needs to be set to legacy or disabled. Also, if you installed Debian, obviously the installer works. After you boot if you get no KB/ Mouse something else is happening. Did you try to use a different KB / Mouse? |
| 21:28.15 | nonconvergent | vimel: If he installed the KB/Mouse clearly worked. |
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| 21:28.47 | vimel | nonconvergent: hes saying that the KB / Mouse does not work after the installation. |
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| 21:29.30 | nonconvergent | Right. Which makes a hardware failure unlikely. |
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| 21:30.26 | nonconvergent | LonelyDanbo: Try selecting just legacy. |
| 21:30.31 | vimel | I have a Gigabyte UEFI motherboard, I had to set UEFI to legacy and disable IOMMU for my KB / Mouse to work. I would check that. |
| 21:30.31 | LonelyDanbo | vimel, well I installed it on one PC and I'm running it on another PC (the same PC that wouldn't install it or find the USB stick it had booted from) |
| 21:31.02 | LonelyDanbo | It was on just Legacy. but there are multiple UEFI options. one for boot, one for storage devices, another for I forget what. |
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| 21:31.31 | LonelyDanbo | one of them lets you select just one or the other, while other options only let you pick which you want to have priority without turning the other off. |
| 21:31.40 | vimel | LonelyDanbo: those are your UEFI boot options. We are suggesting you go into the BIOS itself and set UEFI to legacy. |
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| 21:35.03 | LonelyDanbo | vimel, I see no "UEFI" by itself. |
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| 21:35.38 | LonelyDanbo | Only for boot options, peripheral device ROM something... uhg. I can't remember. I gotta walk across the house every time. |
| 21:36.05 | LonelyDanbo | and if turning off UEFI even going to make my mouse and keyboard work in DebianÉ |
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| 21:36.18 | LonelyDanbo | fucking goddamned Canadian keyboard automatically changing! |
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| 21:38.40 | LonelyDanbo | ok. I found "Legacy USB support" which if disabled, uses EFI. but it's never been disabled, so that's not the problem. |
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| 21:38.55 | steven7731 | Partitioning tools(for example fdisk) tend to leave a 2047 sector(LBA 1-2047, almost 1MiB) between the MBR and first partition. GRUB should keep it's stage 1.5 data in this gap and Linux software-RAID should keep it's superblock in this area at least in case of some superblock versions(e.g. version 1.2), but what else? Is this area used for anything else? |
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| 21:39.57 | LonelyDanbo | is my $90 Gigabyte motherboard somehow too shitty to be able to install and run any Linux distro? (It failed with OpenSUSE as well) |
| 21:39.57 | vimel | LonelyDanbo: try legacy usb support. save and see if Debian wont boot w KB / Mouse enabled. |
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| 21:40.18 | LonelyDanbo | vimel, IT HAS BEEN ENABLED ALL THIS TIME |
| 21:40.34 | vimel | LonelyDanbo: no need to yell brother. |
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| 21:41.15 | LonelyDanbo | sorry. I've been at this all day for 3 days. |
| 21:41.31 | vimel | I already told you to go look for IOMMU in your BIOS and make sure its disabled. I have a Gigabyte AM3+ board and am familiar with no KB / Mouse issues. |
| 21:42.03 | LonelyDanbo | somehow I missed the IOMMU thing. |
| 21:42.31 | vimel | i could not install linux at all until i disabled IOMMU, that got my KB / Mouse to work. but i also had to make sure UEFI was legacy. |
| 21:42.51 | LonelyDanbo | IOMMU was disabled by default. so that's not it. |
| 21:43.00 | vimel | okay so enable it. |
| 21:43.08 | LonelyDanbo | o. k. |
| 21:43.11 | vimel | it was one or the other. I have not done it in months. |
| 21:43.22 | vimel | i know it deals with IOMMU |
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| 21:43.41 | vimel | now save and reboot into debian. |
| 21:44.22 | liske1 | can I make klaster in the virtualbox ?? (for learning) |
| 21:44.54 | capri | liske1, what is klaster? |
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| 21:46.02 | liske1 | cluster* |
| 21:46.08 | LonelyDanbo | vimel, enabling IOMMU has worked for mouse and keyboard in installed Debian. I wonder if it will also let me run the installer off the USB now. T_T just one little setting... |
| 21:46.39 | LonelyDanbo | So thanks. |
| 21:46.42 | vimel | LonelyDanbo: it should. and yes it was a pain to figure it out. but that was all just one silly setting. cheers. |
| 21:46.48 | capri | liske1, makes much more sense ;-). what kind of cluster? what service do you want do cluster? for sure you can use virtualbox vms |
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| 21:48.49 | liske1 | I make the cluster for learning how it's done |
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| 21:49.13 | liske1 | ok thx ;) |
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| 21:50.49 | nonconvergent | Anyone got a way to reload X with a new config? My DM is lightDm |
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| 21:51.29 | gandaliter | nonconvergent: 'service lightdm restart' from a tty? |
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| 22:09.21 | subz3r0 | hi |
| 22:09.24 | TheNewBeginner | hi |
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| 22:10.07 | subz3r0 | I want to add a second disk to my encrypted lvm. so that i can only enter one pass at boot to decrypt both. the second disk should be mounted to /home/user/data. any suggestions how i can do it? |
| 22:10.28 | TheNewBeginner | Can some1 please tell me how I can get any security tools up and running? |
| 22:10.37 | TheNewBeginner | I have a tool downloaded called joomscan |
| 22:11.11 | subz3r0 | TheNewBeginner: some kind of meta question :) |
| 22:11.31 | subz3r0 | is it a binary? script? .deb package or what? |
| 22:12.53 | dutchfish | TheNewBeginner, as a starter debian security starts with not downloading stuff blindly and installing it, more like the opposit, iow only use known good resources, the debian repositories |
| 22:12.58 | subz3r0 | TheNewBeginner: please in here. not in query |
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| 22:13.29 | TheNewBeginner | ok |
| 22:13.36 | TheNewBeginner | I just went on sourceforge and downloaded joomscan |
| 22:14.04 | subz3r0 | lemme check what this is |
| 22:14.05 | TheNewBeginner | when I open the file from the Downloads |
| 22:14.13 | subz3r0 | you got a link that i do not have to search? |
| 22:14.19 | TheNewBeginner | yes 2 sec |
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| 22:14.32 | subz3r0 | normaly youre fine with the stuff that you can find in the repos |
| 22:14.56 | subz3r0 | and i strongly recommend following dutchfish's advice |
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| 22:15.40 | rudi_s | subz3r0: Easy. Just encrypt the disk/partition as usual with LUKS. Then add the name and UUID to /etc/crypttab (just likey our first disk) and add the mount directory to /etc/fstab (like your normal partitions). |
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| 22:16.17 | rudi_s | To automatically mount it on boot, use a key in /etc/crypttab and put the key somewhere in /etc (I use /etc/luks - make sure the permissions are tight). Then it will be automatically decrypted/mounted on boot. |
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| 22:17.02 | rudi_s | The line in crypttab could look like this: second_disk UUID=whatever /etc/luks/second_disk.key luks |
| 22:17.32 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: i dont want to add the key somewhere. wouldnt it be possible to use the same pass as for my system disk? |
| 22:17.40 | subz3r0 | read it in the manpage but its not that clear |
| 22:17.44 | rudi_s | And the line for fstab: /dev/mapper/second_disk /home/user/data ext4 defaults 0 2. |
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| 22:18.03 | rudi_s | subz3r0: AFAIK no. And what's wrong with a second key? |
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| 22:18.11 | asldkalkad | ah |
| 22:18.13 | asldkalkad | subzero |
| 22:18.14 | asldkalkad | its me |
| 22:18.20 | rudi_s | subz3r0: You can add the passphrase you use to the disk so you can decrypt it manually if you have to. |
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| 22:18.46 | rudi_s | With key I mean something like dd if=/dev/urandom of=key bs=4096 count=1 |
| 22:18.49 | LonelyDanbo | sorry to ask a newbie question, but is there a well-known way to setup my audio hardware support and video streaming in IceWeasel? |
| 22:20.00 | LonelyDanbo | oh man. I can't even play MP3s in VLC. I wonder what I did years ago to get #! to do that. :> |
| 22:20.04 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: but this way it would be decrypted after my system disk |
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| 22:20.33 | rudi_s | subz3r0: Well, yes. |
| 22:20.40 | rudi_s | And where's the problem with that? |
| 22:20.53 | rudi_s | "after" = a little later in the boot process. |
| 22:21.37 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: do you think that matters to any apps? since i want to link some software to that hdd |
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| 22:21.41 | subz3r0 | other stuff is on a ssd |
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| 22:22.10 | nonconvergent | LonelyDanbo: https://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs |
| 22:22.17 | rudi_s | subz3r0: It does not. I'm using the same setup just fine. My complete /home is on a separate disk and everything works just fine. |
| 22:22.33 | LonelyDanbo | nonconvergent, thanks. |
| 22:23.18 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: roger that =) |
| 22:24.16 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: how to add that key which im going to make with dd? |
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| 22:25.04 | neo1691 | somehow I am not able to open links in weechat! I am using xterm! Any help! |
| 22:25.35 | neo1691 | In urxvt the links used to be clickable! not in xterm! |
| 22:25.39 | rudi_s | subz3r0: You specify it when using cryptsetup luksFormat /path/to/device /path/to/keyfile |
| 22:26.04 | rudi_s | neo1691: It's a feature of the terminal emulator, I guess xterm doesn't provide that feature by default. - But I'm no xterm expert. |
| 22:26.24 | rudi_s | subz3r0: If you've already formatted the disk, you can add the key with luksAddKey. |
| 22:27.19 | athene_noctua | neo1691: don't click links anyway, copy their addresses and paste :) |
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| 22:28.27 | neo1691 | athene_noctua: thats what I think there is no other way! Anyway thanks ! |
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| 22:28.59 | neo1691 | rudi_s: Any bleeding edge modern day terminal emulator available? |
| 22:29.15 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: thanks a lot |
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| 22:29.22 | rudi_s | neo1691: urxvt? ;-) |
| 22:29.23 | rudi_s | subz3r0: np |
| 22:30.01 | rudi_s | subz3r0: Oh, and while you're at it. Use aes-xts-plain64 as cipher, the default cbc cipher has some issues. |
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| 22:30.13 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: i do :) |
| 22:30.22 | rudi_s | :-) |
| 22:30.35 | subz3r0 | but why ..plain64? |
| 22:30.44 | subz3r0 | read that its needed for large disks over 2tb |
| 22:31.01 | neo1691 | rudi_s: Which came first? urxvt or xterm? |
| 22:31.05 | subz3r0 | i used it, too. but i dont understand the meaning behind |
| 22:31.14 | rudi_s | neo1691: xterm. |
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| 22:31.48 | neo1691 | because I was using urxvt before, but it had wierd keybinding and I had problems using vim! |
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| 22:32.19 | subz3r0 | vim... bah |
| 22:32.37 | subz3r0 | i know its the best editor you can have... but i still dont like it :P |
| 22:32.42 | rudi_s | subz3r0: I'm no cryptographer, so I don't know the exact details. But plain64 is recommened in the man page. And I know that cbc is not a good idea. |
| 22:32.49 | rudi_s | subz3r0: Hey, Vim is great! ;-) |
| 22:32.58 | subz3r0 | pico ftw! |
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| 22:33.01 | neo1691 | vim is god! |
| 22:33.02 | subz3r0 | ehrm i meant nano! :P |
| 22:33.10 | neo1691 | :P |
| 22:33.48 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: wouldnt it work to just extend the existing lvm of the encrypted systemdisk? |
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| 22:34.18 | subz3r0 | thats lvm made for... but uuhhm? :> |
| 22:35.05 | neo1691 | and what is the most customizable display manager/login manager out there? I am tried of being greeted by the plain lightdm! I need something fresh! Something that has many themes available |
| 22:35.18 | subz3r0 | gdm? :p |
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| 22:36.09 | rudi_s | subz3r0: If you provide the lower LUKS layer, then yes. So you still have to do the cryptsetup, /etc/crypttab stuff. But you don't need to mount anything and can just add the decrypted block device in /dev/mapper/second_disk as physical volume to your LVM. |
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| 22:36.13 | kelsoo | wdm |
| 22:36.26 | neo1691 | nah not the gnome dependencies! |
| 22:36.42 | neo1691 | kelsoo: any themes available there for wdm |
| 22:36.49 | rudi_s | neo1691: None. It's the best out there and it works perfectly. Login on your TTY and start X. ;-) |
| 22:37.00 | rudi_s | (Who needs themes for a login manager anyway ...) |
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| 22:37.21 | neo1691 | Ah! The old way! Thanks rudi_s |
| 22:37.22 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: whats about the pros and cons? |
| 22:37.27 | nonconvergent | rudi_s: Ricers. |
| 22:37.47 | kelsoo | None... Just choose your own images :-) |
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| 22:38.15 | rudi_s | :D |
| 22:38.39 | kelsoo | http://oswaldkelso.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/fancy-wdm-splash.html |
| 22:38.48 | rudi_s | subz3r0: Pros: everything in your LVM, you can extend your existing partitions. Cons: more issues when the disk breaks. |
| 22:39.05 | rudi_s | I prefer the simple approach personally. But both should work just fine. |
| 22:39.15 | rudi_s | You can also put a RAID below if you're scared about breaking disks. |
| 22:39.20 | subz3r0 | rudi_s: i really think i should read a bit more about the usage of lvms :) |
| 22:39.33 | rudi_s | subz3r0: Good idea ;-) - they can be quite useful. |
| 22:39.50 | neo1691 | I have got libnotify4, python-pyinotify, xfce4-notifyd, are all for the same purpose? I have just switched from xfce to i3! |
| 22:41.38 | kelsoo | http://oswaldkelso.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/wdm-login.html |
| 22:43.26 | rudi_s | neo1691: Similar yes, but at different level. The first is a C library, the second a python library, the third some kind of daemon used by xfce. |
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| 22:45.01 | kevix | there is remove and purge. which most people find useful for apt-get. but i'm wondering how to a pre-installed state because purge does not remove ever file. |
| 22:45.09 | neo1691 | I want to remove all but one and use that one only! Which is the easiest to use of the four! I am missing your replies guys, I need a notifing daemon! |
| 22:45.45 | rudi_s | neo1691: Well, find out which is used and use it. |
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| 22:46.51 | kevix | notify-send? |
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| 22:50.42 | neo1691 | kevix: what is it! I just need a notification daemon that can be used efficiently for a window manager! |
| 22:50.53 | neo1691 | like i3 or awesome! |
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| 23:01.25 | jgrosman | Hi guys, problem with a totally new debian install. It seems GRUB is not recognize as a booth path by my BIOS (Asus SonicMaster EFI) |
| 23:01.41 | jgrosman | Any idea how to proceed? How find the "boot path"? |
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| 23:05.17 | crn | jgrosman, is this a bios problem? Is bios looking at the right device? |
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| 23:05.38 | jgrosman | I guess. I have only one HD. |
| 23:05.57 | jgrosman | [I had previously a dual boot without problem, just before W8 and Debian update] |
| 23:06.27 | crn | does it boot to a prompt or not at all? |
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| 23:07.28 | jgrosman | It boots directly on windows - right now it's not prompt, but few hours ago, it was. |
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| 23:10.30 | crn | it sounds like grub is not configured correctly. you can boot from the install disk and look in /boot/grub |
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| 23:11.15 | jgrosman | ok |
| 23:11.18 | jgrosman | i'll try |
| 23:11.22 | crn | the configuration file is grub.cfg. look on the net for examples of dual boot grub.cfg |
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| 23:23.38 | neo1691 | can someone tell me what notifying utility is this? http://imgur.com/Y88qstA |
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| 23:34.12 | kevix | neo1691: I use awesome and I use notify-send. |
| 23:35.50 | gez | Hi. After struggling a few days trying to figure out what's going on, I could finally find out what is crashing the desktop background in jessie. |
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| 23:36.07 | gez | It turns out that only happens when nautilus manages the desktop |
| 23:36.18 | gez | Should I report it as a nautilus bug? |
| 23:36.44 | gez | (jessie 64bit) |
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| 23:39.23 | Brigo | ,v nautilus |
| 23:39.24 | judd | Package: nautilus on i386 -- squeeze: 2.30.1-2squeeze2; wheezy: 3.4.2-1+build1; jessie: 3.8.2-2; sid: 3.8.2-2; experimental: 3.11.90-1 |
| 23:39.47 | gez | I just found a report about it |
| 23:40.21 | gez | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740599 |
| 23:40.41 | Brigo | ,bug nautilus |
| 23:40.42 | judd | Bug summary for package nautilus: wishlist: 59, minor: 34, normal: 163, important: 29, serious: 1 |
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| 23:42.48 | Brigo | gez, it looks like a reported bug. |
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| 23:44.46 | gez | Yes, thanks Brigo. I just found the report too. I didn't find it before because I was looking at the wrong places trying to find the origin of the bug (by backtracing gnome-control-center that was crashing) |
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| 23:45.19 | gez | It looked like something related to gdk-pixbuf2 |
| 23:45.31 | Geo | Hi- I apologize in advance for not having much more information than this, but- after about 24-48 hours of uptime, certain commands start to 'hang' on my debian commandline (via ssh). For instance, I can run ps x fine, but 'uptime' 'who' and 'top' all do not return any values, and I need to ^C to get out of them. cd, ls, etc work |
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| 23:45.45 | Geo | any thoughts as to what could cause the hangs? |
| 23:45.52 | Geo | rebooting is the only way I've found to remedy |
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| 23:54.31 | shelley | Hi, what should I use for high availability of a web server in debian? |
| 23:54.46 | shelley | something in the repos. |
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| 23:58.46 | socomm | shelley: Can you re-word your question? |
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| 23:59.02 | socomm | Are you looking for a load balancer? Proxy? HA Cluster? |
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| 23:59.23 | shelley | Load balancer |
| 23:59.53 | socomm | shelley: there are quite few load balancers out there |
