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| 00:00.38 | k0fee | gonna get it, i'll fix it till i break it, couldn't find any settings in bios |
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| 00:03.13 | bum | centrx i just installed debian 7.4 and i installed ssh server i now wanna know my ip address so i can connect to it im using virtual box so how i can look for it ? |
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| 00:03.59 | centrx | bum, Go to an external site like http://ipchicken.com/ |
| 00:04.01 | abrotman | bum: /sbin/ifconfig will show your IP |
| 00:04.25 | centrx | bum, Depending on your network, you may only have an internal IP locally |
| 00:04.47 | bum | abrotman ok but how to run it ? like sudo /sbin/ifconfig ? |
| 00:05.03 | aberlin | TOPIC: DEBOOTSTRAP |
| 00:05.40 | themill | bum: just /sbin/ifconfig |
| 00:06.53 | aberlin | IM on an other linux trying to install debian by using debootstrap, I use http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html as manual, I fail at "aptitude update" |
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| 00:08.06 | Brigo | aberlin, can you paste the error message? |
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| 00:12.11 | aberlin | sry, it seems like just in this moment of despair, it just works, i had to mout proc and sys from the hosting fedora-os |
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| 00:13.09 | bum | i getting this http://pastie.org/8909190 i wanna connect on my ssh from my "windows" im running debian on virtual box |
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| 00:13.23 | Mousey | highly recommends upgrading from approx to apt-cacher-ng |
| 00:13.28 | Mousey | US$0.02++ |
| 00:13.46 | ytrezq | Again: how I may use ld.bfd with gcc in debian? If I use the "-fuse-ld=bfd" gcc parameter. I got "/usr/bin/ld: this linker was not configured to use sysroots". |
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| 00:15.47 | Brigo | bum, and the problem is? |
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| 00:16.23 | aberlin | but anyway : is it really necessary to mount sys in the chroot (when i want to install packages)? |
| 00:17.19 | Brigo | aberlin, yes, sysfs is the way programs access to kernel information. |
| 00:17.26 | bum | Brigo i dont know i trying 127.0.0.1 from my windows im using filezilla |
| 00:17.34 | bum | Brigo i just cant connect to my debian ssh |
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| 00:17.48 | bum | Brigo and ssh is running on debian |
| 00:17.56 | Brigo | bum try the other one: 10.0.2.15 |
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| 00:19.10 | Brigo | bum, in Debiam must run sshd, no ssh |
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| 00:22.59 | bum | Brigo hm i installed openssh-server and i trying to do sudo service sshd start and it says me sshd: unrecognized service |
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| 00:23.28 | dondelelcaro | bum: it's ssh |
| 00:23.33 | mynam | Bum: Have you tried /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 00:24.07 | mynam | Or service ssh start if you will. |
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| 00:24.28 | bum | ok i started |
| 00:25.42 | Brigo | wow! ssh, no sshd! amanzing :-) |
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| 00:26.17 | bum | Brigo i come from centos and there i was starting sshd as i remember :D |
| 00:26.50 | mynam | Gotta love the differences between flavors. |
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| 00:26.59 | Brigo | for sure. |
| 00:27.22 | mynam | It's why I keep this around: http://bhami.com/rosetta.html |
| 00:27.41 | mynam | Rosetta Stone for Unix. |
| 00:28.05 | mynam | I only wish I could remember everything! |
| 00:28.18 | Brigo | impressiv :-) |
| 00:28.55 | mynam | At work we use a mix of Solaris, SLES, and AIX. Oh how things change. |
| 00:29.03 | mynam | My least favorite is AIX.... |
| 00:30.36 | Brigo | i only deal wiht solaris and hp-ux. |
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| 00:30.49 | Brigo | many year ago, i really dont remember :-) |
| 00:31.32 | Brigo | well, i must go, bye all :-) |
| 00:31.42 | mynam | Bye, take care! |
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| 00:35.14 | mynam | So how is everyone _tonight_? |
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| 00:35.57 | bum | wow |
| 00:35.58 | bum | wtf |
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| 00:36.06 | mynam | What's up? |
| 00:36.08 | bum | i installed debian and now it asks again for install ? |
| 00:36.15 | mynam | Did you remove the CD? |
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| 00:36.24 | mynam | Or change the boot order? |
| 00:36.27 | bum | ah ok :D |
| 00:36.30 | bum | the cd is there |
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| 00:37.30 | bum | but anyway why i got a graphical debian i didn't choosed anywhere i want a "desktop" |
| 00:38.06 | mynam | You wanted shell only? |
| 00:38.16 | MrFrood | bum: you have to deselect desktop |
| 00:38.35 | MrFrood | it is ticked by default |
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| 00:46.37 | bum | btw i can't see the difference between centos and debian only the rpm , yum and apt-get, deb ? |
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| 00:50.14 | mynam | I believe the location of the sys config is different too. /etc/network/interfaces I believe is in /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-eth* |
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| 01:03.29 | bum | MrFrood hee? |
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| 01:05.22 | zykotick9 | bum: during the package selection stage... (aka tasksel) |
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| 01:06.51 | mynam | bum: You will see it. There will be a list of options with check boxes. If I remember correctly it comes after it copies everything and updates apt. |
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| 01:07.47 | zykotick9 | forgot there is a non-netinst way to install debian, that has "clicks" and check boxes... |
| 01:08.03 | mynam | Haha. |
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| 01:09.31 | mynam | Here bum, it will look something like this: http://static05.techinferno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/27-tasksel.png |
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| 01:10.12 | bum | mynam ok cool thx btw u know how i can check it and uncheck it ? i see only enter there to continue |
| 01:10.25 | mynam | Spacebar |
| 01:10.29 | mynam | Don't press enter.... |
| 01:10.32 | bum | mynam thx |
| 01:10.35 | bum | y i did first time :D |
| 01:10.43 | bum | thats why i messed D: |
| 01:11.25 | mynam | I think everyone has done it at one point in time. I have... |
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| 01:13.11 | bum | what is the GRUB boot loader do i need that ? on centOS i didn't had that feature |
| 01:13.21 | mynam | Yes. |
| 01:13.27 | mynam | It's what will boot the system. |
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| 01:13.45 | mynam | Well... Starts the boot process. |
| 01:15.27 | Blakney | I have a ralink wlan card https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt2500 and iwconfig/ifconfig show that it's up. however wlan still does not work, iwlist scan says "No scan results". Here is a log: http://pastebin.com/zSuyTJVi |
| 01:15.40 | Blakney | Could someone maybe point in the right direction? |
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| 01:16.36 | Blakney | kernel is 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 01:18.24 | mynam | Are there any logs? |
| 01:18.33 | mynam | NVM, just saw the link... |
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| 01:20.26 | mynam | Blakney, Do you have a wireless on/off switch? |
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| 01:21.07 | mynam | Also what kind of machine is this? Desktop/Laptop? |
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| 01:21.16 | Blakney | mynam Yes, there is a switch. rfkill list all says no blocking |
| 01:21.22 | Blakney | laptop |
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| 01:21.59 | Blakney | iwconfig shows Tx-power is on - if I use the switch, I can turn it off |
| 01:22.08 | mynam | Blakney: What brand laptop? |
| 01:22.36 | Blakney | mynam msi |
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| 01:23.41 | Blakney | mynam msi ms-1013 - that's the MB |
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| 01:24.34 | mynam | Do you see multiple wlan interfaces when you run rfkill list ? |
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| 01:24.44 | bum | mynam ok i setuped my ssh now :) |
| 01:25.18 | mynam | bum: Congrats! Have you tested it? |
| 01:25.34 | Blakney | mynam No, there is only one phy0 (soft blocked: no, hard blocked: no) |
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| 01:26.03 | mynam | Hmm, are you plugged into a wired interface? |
| 01:26.22 | Blakney | No, the machine is not connected |
| 01:26.27 | bum | mynam y works by now but wow im really down by this virtual box so many options i mean networking .... i was in a school with networking but all i learn must be on my own in school they didn't learned me nothing |
| 01:26.27 | Blakney | to the internet |
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| 01:28.27 | bum | mynam why debian allways ask me to insert the dvd when i use apt-get i mean apt-get works over internet no ? i wanna install nginx |
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| 01:28.53 | mynam | bum: You need to comment out the CD in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:29.34 | mynam | Blakney: May be a little extreme but have you tried updating the kernel? |
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| 01:30.01 | zykotick9 | bum: fyi, if you use the "real" installer (netinst) you won't have that issue ;) |
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| 01:30.31 | bum | zykotick9 real installer ? hmmm |
| 01:30.37 | Blakney | mynam No, not yet as I did not get an internet connection so far |
| 01:30.51 | zykotick9 | bum: just joking... but it's "true" |
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| 01:32.19 | Blakney | mynam Is there a way of a kernel update via offline files? |
| 01:32.54 | mynam | You should be able to install the required tools from CD and download the kernel to an external medium. |
| 01:33.00 | centrx | bum, Since you're already installed, just change your sources |
| 01:33.04 | centrx | dpkg: tell bum about sources |
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| 01:33.32 | mynam | Extract. Copy your current config, build, install. |
| 01:33.52 | Blakney | mynam Ok, I'll try, thank you |
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| 01:34.12 | mynam | Blakney: Your welcome. I'll keep looking in mean time. |
| 01:35.11 | bum | my internet not working hm on centos i allways used "dhclient" and it worked |
| 01:35.11 | Blakney | mynam btw it's a bit strange that the hardware is recognized, the driver is there, ifconfig/iwconfig show that it's ok but it still does not work... |
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| 01:36.25 | mynam | Blakney: Just ran across a post talking about how the default driver didn't work and they had to compile the correct one. |
| 01:37.08 | mdel_ | just got a lenovo u430, disabled secure boot and kept UEFI enabled. I just created a USB netinstall and even though it mounts properly and all of the files are there, I can't boot the u430 from it |
| 01:37.11 | mdel_ | any ideas? |
| 01:37.26 | Blakney | mynam Oh, that might be it - I also found a thread with the same kernel, card and issue but there was no solution... It seems to be a kernel driver issue then... |
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| 01:38.31 | mynam | Blakney: I'm about the pull up the source for it now, going to check to see if the changes were made that they talk about in the post. |
| 01:38.58 | aberlin | i made an makedev in the wrong directory, who to undo? |
| 01:39.24 | Blakney | mynam Do you have maybe the url of the post for me? |
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| 01:46.15 | bum | why was redhat commercied ? |
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| 01:47.19 | dvs | bum: because they created the Fedora project which is "free" |
| 01:47.25 | dotDeb | ^ |
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| 01:48.09 | icedtea | if you are creating a debian package, what is the variable for the sbin directory in the postinst file? |
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| 01:51.16 | LtL | dvs: i beg to differ, redhat made lots of money, fedora was a concession and remained free |
| 01:51.26 | axisys | how do I avoid multiple ldap queries sent to ldap server for same attribute? nscd would help? |
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| 01:53.08 | dvs | LtL: concession? Meaning that people would evacuate them if Fedora didn't exist? |
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| 01:54.35 | LtL | dvs: concession as in redhat starts charging customers but concedes a free version of redhat named fedora |
| 01:54.48 | dvs | ah |
| 01:56.26 | potatoceleron | technically arent you purchasing a service contract? |
| 01:56.35 | LtL | yep |
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| 02:00.15 | abrotman | points at #debian-offtopic |
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| 02:12.13 | martin3z | I got segfault when starting 'mocp' installed from sid, and also tried from jessie, moc package, version 1:2.5.0~beta2-1 |
| 02:13.28 | dvs | and you're running wheezy? |
| 02:14.02 | martin3z | no, im running jessie/sid |
| 02:14.06 | mynam | Have you straced it? |
| 02:14.14 | martin3z | no, how to strace? |
| 02:14.24 | mynam | strace <cmd> |
| 02:14.48 | martin3z | i don't have command strace, where i found it? |
| 02:15.06 | ncp | apt-get? |
| 02:15.14 | mynam | apt-get install strace |
| 02:15.53 | martin3z | ok |
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| 02:16.28 | martin3z | after strace i got a lot of data |
| 02:16.40 | mynam | This link should help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Step_By_Step_Debugging_Guide |
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| 02:16.57 | martin3z | ok, i try |
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| 02:26.03 | martin3z | i got from gdb: could not load shared library linux-gate.so.1 but i don't know where to find it |
| 02:26.31 | dvs | martin3z: linux-gate is the gateway to the linux kernel. |
| 02:27.50 | nonconvergent | I'd like to try a backported kernel but I want to make sure I can get my graphics drivers to work with it, running proprietary nvidia. |
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| 02:29.12 | mynam | martin3z: http://www.trilithium.com/johan/2005/08/linux-gate/ |
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| 02:30.32 | mynam | martin3z: There is this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729550 |
| 02:30.40 | mynam | Reported Nov 2013. |
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| 02:32.18 | martin3z | ok, thanks, i will see. I found also that is an problem with __strcmp__ia32 () |
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| 02:35.32 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 02:35.58 | mynam | martin3z: Have you tried updating libc? |
| 02:36.20 | mynam | Hi ShapeShifter499 |
| 02:36.25 | ShapeShifter499 | so I set up my printer on my headless server by connecting remotely (in the same lan) using the cups web interference. The problem is that when I send test print pages using the option in the cups web interface printing either never works or suddenly works around a few minutes later. Any ideas guys? |
| 02:36.29 | martin3z | mynam, no yet, no i installed all dbg package, should i? |
| 02:36.43 | ShapeShifter499 | My server is a netbook running Debian Wheezy 32bit |
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| 02:37.35 | ShapeShifter499 | for example I'll have 3 print test options and only 1 will print |
| 02:37.41 | mynam | martin3z, I'd try apt-get install libc6-i386 or insert your arch. |
| 02:37.47 | ShapeShifter499 | *options/jobs |
| 02:38.07 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, have you tried a test page from the server? Is it just as slow? |
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| 02:38.19 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: this is using the web interface |
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| 02:38.50 | ShapeShifter499 | I don't have anything else setup |
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| 02:39.28 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: I never really setup cups before for any sort of remote printing so I barely know what I'm doing |
| 02:39.30 | jetscreamer | so what's up with --upgrade in testing |
| 02:39.48 | martin3z | mynam: i have already updated glibc6, and problem which you show me is different than mine. i will report what i got. |
| 02:39.52 | themill | jetscreamer: once more with details? |
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| 02:40.27 | jetscreamer | did apt-get upgrade, error one sec |
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| 02:41.40 | jetscreamer | post inst error w/samba-common |
| 02:41.44 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, When you are in CUPS web, go to admin-> manage printers -> Your printer -> maintenance drop down menu -> print test page |
| 02:42.04 | jetscreamer | samba* depends on samba common but samba-common is not configured |
| 02:42.19 | themill | jetscreamer: come on... you know the drill |
| 02:42.48 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: that is exactly what I'm doing |
| 02:42.54 | jetscreamer | can't cut_paste it's in console :) |
| 02:43.11 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, Ok. I thought you had the printer installed remotely and was printing from there. |
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| 02:43.31 | themill | jetscreamer: can't help with zero information ;) |
| 02:43.33 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: not yet |
| 02:43.44 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, How long does it take? |
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| 02:44.02 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: around 3-10 and not all test prints will print |
| 02:44.14 | jetscreamer | dpkg: error processing package samba-common (--install) |
| 02:44.15 | dpkg | jetscreamer: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 02:45.03 | jetscreamer | returned error exit status 10 is all there is |
| 02:45.11 | mynam | jetscreamer, does apt-cache madison samba-common return anything? |
| 02:45.16 | martin3z | mynam: i got info that my error is due to librcc0, i need downgrade from 0.2.903.1+b1 to 0.2.9-3.1, how to make downgrade btw? |
| 02:45.46 | mynam | You use = to specify version with apt |
| 02:46.09 | mynam | IE: apt-get install apache2=2.3.4 |
| 02:46.18 | mynam | Brb, gotta tend the kid. |
| 02:46.25 | jetscreamer | mynam yes it returns samba-common | 2:4.1.5+dfsg-1 | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages |
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| 02:46.31 | jetscreamer | k no biggie |
| 02:47.13 | jetscreamer | don't use samba or nfs, darn metapackages musta pulled it in |
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| 02:47.59 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: oh and sometimes it errors out "unable to send data to printer" |
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| 02:48.36 | jetscreamer | the original error was dpkg tried to write to a non-existent directory, /var/lib/dpkg/info, and errored out the upgrade |
| 02:48.50 | jetscreamer | so then i did a mkdir and all kinds of fun ensued |
| 02:49.02 | jetscreamer | no biggie, testbed |
| 02:49.16 | themill | err... if /var/lib/dpkg/info doesn't exist then you've got bigger problems than that |
| 02:49.28 | jetscreamer | yeah i wondered about that |
| 02:49.31 | jetscreamer | and it didn't |
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| 02:50.50 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, have you run top or htop on the server when you print the test page? |
| 02:51.07 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: no |
| 02:51.20 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, What version of cups? |
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| 02:52.14 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: 1.5.3 |
| 02:52.29 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, Here is the bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664538 |
| 02:52.37 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: whatever is latest in wheezy, the page shows 1.5.3 though |
| 02:52.39 | mynam | There is a gs process that goes crazy. |
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| 02:54.46 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: now I can't seem to log into my cups server |
| 02:54.56 | ShapeShifter499 | I can log in via ssh |
| 02:55.04 | mynam | Does the interface even load? |
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| 02:56.04 | ShapeShifter499 | it was till I tried to change a printer setting then it asks for a login but wont except any of my user names + password |
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| 02:56.36 | mynam | Have you tried root? |
| 02:57.24 | ShapeShifter499 | I restarted cups and was able to log in again "service cups restart" |
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| 02:58.34 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: top is showing gs taking all of my cpu |
| 02:59.16 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: gs suddenly disappeared from top and now it prints |
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| 02:59.51 | dvs | gs is ghostscript which generate postscript output for printers. |
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| 03:00.16 | ShapeShifter499 | hmm |
| 03:00.55 | ShapeShifter499 | dvs: mynam well I'm at a loss |
| 03:02.04 | mynam | The last comment on that bug report from Brian says to read the README in the cups-filters package. |
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| 03:02.39 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: they are talking about pdf printing, this is a test page |
| 03:03.31 | mynam | Could still be related. What format does the test page get printed as? Brb, gotta put my child to bed. |
| 03:04.20 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: take your time, it's just a standard cups print page showing the version of cups and other system information |
| 03:05.03 | ShapeShifter499 | has the linux penguin logo and cups logo |
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| 03:23.25 | sadtaco | I'm not sure how to phrase this question, so I'll just explain. The business my mom works at was asking for me advice. They have 20 engineers on windows and need some solution for automatically backing up data. Is there something for Linux to have storage automatically backed up from windows computers to it? It's rather out of my element. |
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| 03:24.36 | module000 | sadtaco: enterprise-ish backup can be done with bacula(and other tools). i backup ~300 windows workstations to a linux bacula deployment |
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| 03:26.57 | sadtaco | Care to share more? I'm googling it, but, you know. |
| 03:27.42 | nonconvergent | sadtaco: samba share and a cronjob |
| 03:27.51 | sadtaco | Amanda is one I found when googling too. |
| 03:28.39 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, Back. Have you looked at possibly upgrading the version of cups? |
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| 03:32.33 | sadtaco | Most of the people save their file onto a network drive. Something can be configured on one of the windows machines to backup from that network drive to bacula/amanda, right? What are the file systems like on those things, anyway? It's just like how files would normally be saved, right, so you can just pull them right out from a directory? |
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| 03:50.08 | nonconvergent | sadtaco: I don't know what those are. |
| 03:50.40 | sadtaco | Hm? |
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| 03:50.51 | nonconvergent | I don't know what they are. |
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| 03:52.56 | nonconvergent | If you need a HA solution, you might want to pay a network consultant. If you just need a regular backup and can afford to do it in off hours or schedule some downtime, a samba share and a cron job to automate a simple rsync across the network. |
| 03:52.59 | sadtaco | What what are? BAcula and Amanda? |
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| 03:53.25 | gasull | Hi. I use Xfce4 in Debian Testing. When I try to reboot or shutdown I get logged out instead. Can this be a problem with permissions? Or root running a process? |
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| 03:57.12 | gasull | It used to work and stopped working. |
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| 03:59.17 | Gr33n3gg | Anyone to report a 404 error on debian.org? Found a changelog that 404s |
| 03:59.36 | centrx | Doubtful |
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| 04:42.58 | nonconvergent | Huh, tried to set up a chroot+schroot and I think I did something wrong. My user doesn't have permission to access the schroot service. |
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| 04:49.47 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: sorry was out on a walk with my mom |
| 04:50.09 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: I could update cups but to which? I guess I'll try wheezy-backports |
| 04:50.10 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, No worries. Helping a friend with GIT. |
| 04:51.44 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: hmm I thought "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install cups" would do it but apt-get says it's already the newest version |
| 04:52.39 | ShapeShifter499 | looks like I'll have to go to testing |
| 04:52.50 | mynam | ShapeShifter499, I'm running the SID repo and cups is 1.6.4-2. |
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| 04:53.38 | eb0t | what does it mean when directories have like a thick bold colour behind their names in the listing |
| 04:53.38 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: 1.6? debian says there is a 1.7 already |
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| 04:53.46 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/cups |
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| 04:55.06 | mynam | I'm using unstable. |
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| 04:57.41 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: unstable should have the same or even a newer one |
| 04:57.59 | ShapeShifter499 | if I understand things correctly |
| 04:58.10 | mynam | When did they add 1.7? |
| 04:58.16 | mynam | Haven't updated in a couple days. |
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| 05:01.14 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:14:55 |
| 05:01.26 | compTECH | someone share shell please |
| 05:01.28 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/cups/cups_1.7.1-7_changelog |
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| 05:02.13 | mynam | Hmm. |
| 05:02.16 | mynam | I've updated since then. |
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| 05:04.02 | compTECH | guys i want to learn how to install znc and eggdrop... is there anyone here willing to share some box please |
| 05:04.03 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: might be if you have a mixed system, the last time I had a mixed system I got my pinning wrong. I couldn't recover and had to reinstall |
| 05:04.14 | ShapeShifter499 | *apt-pinning |
| 05:04.41 | mynam | I'm about to reinstall and stay with stable.... |
| 05:05.11 | mynam | Been a little more unstable than I like. |
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| 05:06.19 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: I'd like to stay with stable as well but I had to go and try to setup a networked printer.... |
| 05:06.50 | ShapeShifter499 | looks like I'll need to upgrade at least the cups package to testing to fix things |
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| 05:07.09 | mynam | Nice. Never setup a network printer. Have always shared it out with CUPS. |
| 05:08.35 | mynam | You could add the unstable/testing repos and use apt-get install cups=1.7 |
| 05:08.41 | mynam | Just use the full version string |
| 05:08.51 | mynam | apt-get update then apt-cache madison cups |
| 05:09.03 | mynam | That will show you the available versions. |
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| 05:13.07 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: I plan to pin everything down to 1 thats not part of stable or stable-backports and just pin higher cups and cups dependencies |
| 05:13.29 | mynam | I've never done any pinning. |
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| 05:19.21 | ShapeShifter499 | mynam: I think I got it, thanks for pointing out that cups bug |
| 05:19.31 | mynam | No problem |
| 05:19.37 | dotDeb | is using debian with the linux-libre kernel possible and if it is then how would that experience differ from using the debian linux kernel, which I believe already is fully libre? |
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| 05:28.51 | mynam | dotDeb, I would think that as long as they didn't remove anything that Debian depends on you should be fine. |
| 05:29.25 | mynam | I personally have never messed with the linux-libre kernels. |
| 05:29.30 | dotDeb | mynam ok |
| 05:29.32 | dotDeb | thanks |
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| 05:29.56 | mynam | Best way to find out is try it. Preferably not on a production machine. :) |
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| 05:31.22 | dotDeb | mynam well it just seems like both indicate that they removed the same thing: the non-free binaries |
| 05:31.45 | dotDeb | mynam and if debian can run without them, then I can't see why linux-libre wouldn't work |
| 05:32.04 | mynam | Debian cuts non-free into it's own repo and doesn't add them by default. |
| 05:32.21 | dotDeb | mynam i know, so the kernel doesn't have non-free firmware |
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| 05:48.03 | jaami | how do i restart vino |
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| 05:53.18 | mynam | jaami, Might this be of some help? Not familiar with vino. http://mattezell.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/restarting-vino-server-from-cli/ |
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| 06:11.44 | pozican | trying to figure out where to put some xrandr commands to get them to run with 'startx' |
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| 06:13.48 | Dynetrek1 | hi, I've got a raspberry pi with raspbian and an external HDD for backup. after a reboot, the permissions on everything on the disk has lost the "write" bit. help? |
| 06:13.56 | codingeek | Does anyone know how to configure DMZ in debian |
| 06:14.00 | codingeek | ? |
| 06:14.05 | Dynetrek1 | I now can't update my backups :( and I'd rather not start over.... |
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| 06:14.59 | Dynetrek1 | fstab looks like so: /dev/sda1 /mnt/mybook ext4 defaults 0 2 |
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| 06:20.24 | SirLagz | codingeek: DMZ in Debian doesn't exist. What are you trying to do ? |
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| 06:21.56 | rozie | Dynetrek1: first of all, check logs. probably filesystem has errors and that's why it was mounted ro |
| 06:22.34 | Dynetrek1 | rozie: ah, good idea |
| 06:22.54 | Dynetrek1 | rozie: ...which one? I'm not as familiar with debian as I'd like (my other box is an Arch) |
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| 06:24.05 | Dynetrek1 | rozie: I can 'touch foo' inside the disk FS, so it's not that |
| 06:25.20 | Dynetrek1 | the really weird thing - I noticed because not all my backups were running, but _some_ are! |
| 06:25.27 | shingouz | Dynetrek1: you are talking about raspbian, aren't you? this sounds like something that you shoud ask in the correct channel. even if something is based on debian, it is not debian. |
| 06:26.09 | Dynetrek1 | shingouz: it is awfully similar. afaik, they only made it run on the pi. of course, if I'm wrong, feel free to correct |
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| 06:26.18 | Dynetrek1 | shingouz: I've never noticed any difference on e.g. google |
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| 06:27.24 | shingouz | Dynetrek1: trust me, there are differences. even if your car is based on the ford quadricycle, they are not exactly the same |
| 06:28.14 | Dynetrek1 | shingouz: this is a permissions issue. #linux or #debian or #ubuntu for that matter, I don't see it as a distro-specific question |
| 06:29.44 | shingouz | Dynetrek1: true but you do not want to correct the symptom, you want to correct the cause. for the symptom, see if the filesystem is actually intact with no errors and what the "defaults" actually are on raspbian |
| 06:30.13 | shingouz | for the cause, check raspbian |
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| 06:30.53 | jaami | how to restart vino from terminal |
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| 06:33.00 | Dynetrek1 | shingouz: now that's actual advice :) thanks |
| 06:33.09 | shingouz | jaami: sh /etc/init.d/vino restart perhaps? |
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| 06:33.47 | shingouz | Dynetrek1: i still maintain that you really should ask the correct people, you will get much more accurate advice |
| 06:34.01 | Dynetrek1 | shingouz: noted |
| 06:34.19 | codingeek | I can't find where the public IP for my SMTP server is set. |
| 06:34.44 | codingeek | DMZ is probably set on the Cisco device right? |
| 06:35.20 | codingeek | SirLagz: test |
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| 06:35.41 | SirLagz | codingeek: it depends on the network. |
| 06:35.44 | shingouz | codingeek: the dmz configuration sits on your router. the public ip for your smtp server... is the smtp sitting on your box? |
| 06:36.22 | SirLagz | codingeek: you should probably talk to your network boys/girls to see if there's proxies or anything like that that it needs to get through |
| 06:36.28 | codingeek | We have one main Cisco router right after the provider box.... That router is then connected to the server with the XEN virtualization |
| 06:36.39 | codingeek | on that XEN we have a VM with the SMTP server |
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| 06:37.14 | codingeek | Ah OK... I though I can find it myself since we have a conflict with the network guys and have quit the contract |
| 06:37.15 | boyloverclub55 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.33 | boyloverclub55 | i have loads of preteen boys nude |
| 06:37.48 | shingouz | !ops boyloverclub55 spam |
| 06:37.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: shingouz complains about: boyloverclub55 spam |
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| 06:38.17 | SirLagz | babilen: thanks |
| 06:38.24 | babilen | likewise |
| 06:38.40 | SirLagz | i am disturbed by that spam =/ |
| 06:38.52 | codingeek | we all are =/ |
| 06:39.06 | shingouz | is disturbed about the reason of the spam... |
| 06:39.12 | SirLagz | glad to know I'm not they only one |
| 06:39.14 | babilen | Lets move on please. |
| 06:39.19 | SirLagz | babilen: sorry. Will do. |
| 06:39.30 | babilen | Thanks (and yes, it is disturbing) |
| 06:39.54 | SirLagz | codingeek: do you still have any networking guys left ? |
| 06:40.26 | codingeek | We don't have a contract anymore, so they won't help :/ |
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| 06:40.38 | SirLagz | i see |
| 06:40.42 | codingeek | They didn't write a network structure as they should |
| 06:40.46 | SirLagz | codingeek: do you know how your network is setup ? |
| 06:40.48 | codingeek | It was written in the contract |
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| 06:41.23 | codingeek | Like I said I don't... I though I can configure it out with plenty of commands |
| 06:42.05 | shingouz | codingeek: let me be a bit paranoid here: i think you cannot access any config on the network, the configs are all fscked up, you probably do not have access to anything and there can be a multitude of serious holes everywhere. in other words, you have a *lot* to fix |
| 06:42.40 | SirLagz | codingeek: I'd get the network sorted out first before doing anything else. |
| 06:43.41 | babilen | wonders how this is related to Debian, but decides to have another coffee first … :D (i.e. there is ##networking, #debian-offtopic, ...) |
| 06:44.15 | SirLagz | babilen: haven't had enough caffeine yet ? :D |
| 06:44.48 | codingeek | Sorry babilen... The servers are running on the Debian OS, so I though I will get some help here |
| 06:44.55 | codingeek | I will issue a problem on another channell |
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| 06:46.46 | babilen | codingeek: Your problem might be perfectly suitable for #debian, I simply didn't see anything that was related to Debian at all. It was an attempt to point out maybe more appropriate channels... but then configuring your network on Debian is perfectly fine here. Developing a suitable network topology is probably better done in, say, ##networkong, #juniper, #cisco, ... |
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| 06:59.44 | codingeek | I will kindly ask them to send me the network topology.. I think that's the best way |
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| 07:05.30 | oskie_ | anyone know how to fix this? s3cmd : Depends: python:any (>= 2.6.6-7~) |
| 07:06.03 | oskie_ | I have python 2.7.3-4+deb7u1 installed, but the ":any" part is what concerns me |
| 07:06.20 | pozican | oskie_: any refers to arch |
| 07:06.28 | pozican | python isn't arch specific |
| 07:07.12 | oskie_ | pozican: yeah but I don't understand why that dependency isn't satisfied. I know the s3cmd package was compiled on a multiarch system, and the system where I'm installing it is only amd64 |
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| 07:07.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell oskie_ -about bat |
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| 07:07.56 | babilen | oskie_: We would really need the complete picture (i'll be afk for a while) |
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| 07:08.31 | oskie_ | the complete picture is big and ugly |
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| 07:09.53 | babilen | oskie_: therein probably lies your problem (and the question if your system is supportable) |
| 07:10.35 | oskie_ | well, i'm not so sure about that |
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| 07:14.37 | oskie_ | strange, upgrading apt to the jessie version fixed this issue |
| 07:15.19 | pozican | heh, are you mixed now? |
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| 07:16.29 | lasers | Why is youtube-dl not in wheezy? |
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| 07:16.53 | lasers | only squeeze-backports, jessie (testing), sid (unstable) |
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| 07:18.54 | pozican | lasers: i'm not sure about debian / apt, but normally that's more of a question for the package maintainer; and there's no assurance he's here |
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| 07:19.51 | lasers | pozican: okay. i recently build it from source. it's all installed *just* now. thanks. :) |
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| 07:21.04 | pozican | lasers: curiousity, were all the deps you needed already in apt? |
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| 07:21.51 | lasers | pozican: yes, i think so. i ran build-dep and it didn't install any additional packages. |
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| 07:46.29 | mikunos | hi guys I have a strange issue with a multi-IP configuration |
| 07:46.43 | mikunos | I have a network card with 2 ips |
| 07:46.51 | mikunos | IP |
| 07:47.03 | nell | im trying to install qjoypad on debian squeeze and i get this weird nasty error |
| 07:47.04 | nell | http://pastebin.com/1dHNCb6v |
| 07:47.13 | mikunos | in the network I can see both ip |
| 07:47.30 | mikunos | out the network I can see the main ip and not the second one |
| 07:47.37 | mikunos | any hint? |
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| 07:52.03 | monkwitdafunk | you can try man or info on ip and ipconfig |
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| 07:52.51 | mikunos | I have discovered that the network card reply me Interrupt:36 Memory:da000000-da012800 |
| 07:52.54 | monkwitdafunk | ifconfig can involve ip aliasing |
| 07:53.32 | monkwitdafunk | broadcast storms on your LAN can make a poor network as well as packet collisions |
| 07:54.36 | mikunos | how can I solve this issue? |
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| 08:11.08 | Prasad_ | hello,when is Mark Brown(broonie) present here? |
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| 08:15.17 | babilen | Prasad_: Why? |
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| 08:16.25 | Prasad_ | i want to discuss about Linux hardware support for one mobile device project for gsoc2014 |
| 08:17.53 | babilen | Prasad_: You are certainly better off on irc.debian.org (aka irc.oftc.net) where you'll find broonie and channels such as #debian-soc along with whatever channel is used by the team for your GSoC project. |
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| 08:19.10 | babilen | Prasad_: I can't see a specific channel mentioned on the GSoC page and would therefore recommend to either ping broonie in private, ask him to join #debian-soc or to let you know if there is a suitable other channel for that project. |
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| 08:20.45 | Prasad_ | Ok thanks, babilen |
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| 08:52.26 | yashi | I just installed pgsql 9.3 using this recipe: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt. If I install now apt-get install php5-pgsql, will it hook up to the 9.3 version? |
| 08:52.30 | yashi | (btw I'm on wheezy) |
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| 08:55.32 | babilen | yashi: Probably not as Debian neither supports nor endorses those third-party repositories |
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| 08:57.48 | yashi | babilen: So what will happen? |
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| 08:58.12 | babilen | yashi: I have no idea |
| 08:58.31 | yashi | hrmm ok I'm trying it out:) |
| 08:58.33 | babilen | judd: depends php5-pgsql |
| 08:58.34 | judd | Package php5-pgsql in wheezy/i386 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libpq5 (>= 9.0~), phpapi-20100525+lfs, php5-common (= 5.4.4-14+deb7u7), ucf,dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2~). |
| 08:58.53 | yashi | Doesn't seem to require the actual pgsql package. |
| 08:59.03 | yashi | I guess that makes sense because you could hook up to a remote server. |
| 08:59.30 | babilen | judd: why php5-pgsql posgresql-9.1 |
| 08:59.36 | babilen | judd: why php5-pgsql postgresql-9.1 |
| 09:00.01 | babilen | I don't expect an actual Depends here ... |
| 09:00.04 | judd | No dependency chain found between packages php5-pgsql and posgresql-9.1 in wheezy/i386. |
| 09:00.08 | judd | No dependency chain found between packages php5-pgsql and postgresql-9.1 in wheezy/i386. |
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| 09:00.24 | yashi | Great |
| 09:00.25 | yashi | Thanks |
| 09:00.35 | babilen | yashi: Have a look. But please note once again that we really don't support those third-party packages and that you are on your own with that setup. |
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| 09:01.05 | cnz | question, how come on every reboot my /dev/sd* changes partitions |
| 09:01.06 | yashi | babilen: Thanks. (Don't worry: it's an experiment dev server running on a vm that will never see the "light of day") |
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| 09:03.47 | babilen | cnz: Might happen as they are simply enumerated in the order in which they are seen, use UUIDs to refer to specific filesystems. "/msg dpkg uuid" |
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| 09:04.19 | zenlunatic | babilen: technically isn't sd? not a partition but a device? |
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| 09:05.08 | zenlunatic | like /dev/sda0 and /dev/sda1 would be a change |
| 09:05.19 | babilen | zenlunatic: sure -- i simply meant to imply that in the places where the name matters (e.g. /etc/fstab) UUIDs are more appropriate |
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| 09:05.38 | zenlunatic | oh i was just wondering |
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| 09:11.26 | Rubas | how do I automount on startup? |
| 09:11.53 | Rubas | all my other diskdrives? |
| 09:12.38 | nkuttler | Rubas: man 5 fstab |
| 09:13.19 | CptTrouble | :> |
| 09:13.43 | zenlunatic | should i lvm a laptop? |
| 09:13.47 | CptTrouble | sudo nano /etc/fstab and check there |
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| 09:14.05 | CptTrouble | zenlunatic, i would not. since you wont have any benefit in my point of view |
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| 09:14.19 | CptTrouble | since you normaly do not extent any partitions in a laptop |
| 09:14.22 | zenlunatic | i can still use luks though |
| 09:14.24 | CptTrouble | extend |
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| 09:14.27 | CptTrouble | ofc you can |
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| 09:15.30 | zenlunatic | since luks is more obfuscated could it better prevent forensics? |
| 09:15.34 | zenlunatic | i mean lvm |
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| 09:16.27 | CptTrouble | zenlunatic? |
| 09:17.18 | zenlunatic | forget it... whole new can of worms |
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| 09:17.53 | CptTrouble | normaly luks create some kind of a container where you could create a lvm in |
| 09:18.09 | CptTrouble | so from outside, it will look like just one partition |
| 09:18.29 | zenlunatic | ok |
| 09:18.31 | CptTrouble | zenlunatic, just give it a try in a virtualmachine and see how it works |
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| 09:19.49 | CptTrouble | l |
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| 09:20.17 | dzen | it seems when I run debootstrap *IN* an lxc container, apt is not installed |
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| 09:20.39 | dzen | and google is not helping :( |
| 09:20.55 | bum_ | Hey, i added a new repo dev http://nginx ....... but when i use apt-get install nginx it installs me the older version from official debian updates |
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| 09:21.40 | dzen | bum_: apt-cache policy nginx |
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| 09:22.39 | CptTrouble | bum_, did you apt-get update before? |
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| 09:22.45 | bum_ | no |
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| 09:22.52 | CptTrouble | otherwise it will use the old sources |
| 09:23.04 | stoly | Hi, I am trying to install jabberd2 on my debian squeeze server. the configure script requires OpenSSL 1.0.1 however the latest version is 1.0.01 (right?). how do I rectify this? |
| 09:23.16 | CptTrouble | so try apt-get update && apt-get install nginx |
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| 09:23.46 | bum_ | dzen ok i see now 2 nginx but how i install the newer ? |
| 09:23.53 | bum_ | dzen both are called nginx |
| 09:24.02 | babilen | bum_: Why are you using that unsupported third-party repository? |
| 09:24.02 | stoly | oops i installed an older version... ok, rectified, thanks |
| 09:24.13 | babilen | judd: v nginx |
| 09:24.14 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy-backports: 1.4.4-1~bpo70+1; sid: 1.4.5-1; wheezy-backports: 1.4.6-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.4.6-1; sid: 1.4.6-1 |
| 09:24.49 | bum_ | babilen deb http://nginx.org/packages/debian/ wheezy nginx is unsupported from official nginx website? |
| 09:25.17 | bum_ | babilen i mean from official debian there is ver 1.2.1 only i need the last |
| 09:25.20 | babilen | bum_: Yes, we (i.e. Debian) don't support that. Why are you using that in lieu of the official packages that come with Debian already? |
| 09:25.34 | babilen | bum_: You can get 1.4.6 from Debian backports. |
| 09:25.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell bum_ about wheezy-backports |
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| 09:26.43 | babilen | bum_: You would use an /etc/apt/sources.list such as http://paste.debian.net/87240, run "apt-get update" and then install nginx with "apt-get -t wheezy-backports nginx" -- That way you have a supported configuration that doesn't leave you standing in the rain in case something breaks (or during the upgrade to jessie) |
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| 09:29.48 | bum_ | babilen invalid operation |
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| 09:31.33 | babilen | bum_: Oh, yeah .. sorry. Should have been "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install nginx" *blush* |
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| 09:32.12 | babilen | bum_: Generally speaking: Do not install software from third-party repositories |
| 09:32.16 | horsik | guys how to check current fontconfig options? |
| 09:32.31 | horsik | i've read it's done using debconf |
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| 09:35.34 | babilen | horsik: "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" |
| 09:35.51 | Brigo | horsik, or man fonts-conf |
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| 09:36.35 | horsik | babilen: i want detailed info |
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| 09:38.36 | stoly | Hi, I am trying to install jabberd2 on my debian squeeze server. the configure script requires OpenSSL >= 1.0.1. I've installed the latest version is 1.0.1f yet the configure script still complains about it. how do I rectify this? |
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| 09:40.52 | Brigo | stoly, did you install jabberd2 from backports? |
| 09:41.04 | Dinux | seems like my tun0 doesn't forward to eth0 |
| 09:41.10 | stoly | Brigo: from source |
| 09:41.16 | Dinux | ip_forward is enabled |
| 09:41.34 | Brigo | stoly, i think it will be better to install it form backports. |
| 09:41.49 | Brigo | stoly, no dependecies issues ... |
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| 09:43.20 | babilen | stoly: You really might want to consider upgrading your system to wheezy as squeeze will only be supported for another two months (well, less really) |
| 09:43.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell stoly about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 09:45.18 | stoly | babilen: I might just do that |
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| 09:46.16 | stoly | just might* (: |
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| 09:54.30 | itemad | after upgrading this morning my system doesn't boot anymore :-( |
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| 10:17.09 | klrr__ | hello, i got a problem. im trying to update my sources to sid, but for some reason apt-get capitalize fail. i think the cause is that apt-get capitlize the url's, for example it tries to fetch "http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/updates/binary-amd64/Packages" notice the capitlization at "packages", im not sure if this is the reason, another cause might be these repos simply doesnt exist, anyway would appriciate guidance, any id |
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| 10:17.34 | bal | I'm using wheezy and I want to create RAID 1 with 2 HDD with 3 TB each but it doesnt work ? Does debian installer suports gpt partitioning? |
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| 10:19.21 | musca | klrr__: please join #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 10:19.44 | klrr__ | musca: okey |
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| 10:27.42 | jelly | klrr__: "Packages" is correct. |
| 10:28.47 | klrr__ | jelly: yeah, realized there is no sid-updates and sid/updates |
| 10:28.57 | bum_ | what happens when i don't install a grub loader or lilo loader? |
| 10:29.24 | jelly | klrr__: where would it update from? :-) |
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| 10:29.43 | jelly | dpkg, tell klrr__ about sid faq |
| 10:30.02 | klrr__ | i know about it, it's just that a generator included it so i was a bit confused ;) |
| 10:30.57 | musca | bum_: it depends on your environment ... most likely your system won't be able to boot into debian |
| 10:31.55 | jelly | klrr__: tell the owners of that generator to fix it, I guess |
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| 10:39.14 | itemad | Brigo: yas'toi aquÃ! |
| 10:39.32 | itemad | acabo de bajar a la versión 2.00-22 de grub-pc |
| 10:39.36 | paddy | !es |
| 10:39.36 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 10:39.37 | itemad | y se ha resuelto el problema |
| 10:39.47 | itemad | uups! |
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| 10:41.04 | itemad | I have mix up #debian and #debian-es |
| 10:41.10 | paddy | :o) |
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| 10:51.31 | klrr__ | this guide says gives shows how to install nvidia non-free graphics driver https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 is it out of date, cause i cant seem to find the kernel-header package either for wheezy or sid |
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| 10:52.42 | ytrezq | Again: how I may use ld.bfd with gcc in debian? If I use the "-fuse-ld=bfd" gcc parameter. I got "/usr/bin/ld: this linker was not configured to use sysroots". |
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| 10:54.14 | klrr__ | lol nvm, forgot to write "install" |
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| 11:22.46 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice morning great guys ! |
| 11:23.06 | paddy | greets back |
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| 11:25.33 | SOUL_OF_R00T | guys i'm one amd64 processors user and have used it for a long time , but now i have buyed a notebook with one i7 i am in doubt about what debian plataform i have to install i386 or amd64 anyone can help about it? |
| 11:25.55 | ernst | SOUL_OF_R00T: amd64 |
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| 11:26.23 | Waster | hello, I'm experiencing random freezes with Debian Wheezy (one is i686, other is x86_64) on two different HP dl380g4 servers. Squeeze works pretty stable on G4. What is the problem? |
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| 11:26.52 | ernst | SOUL_OF_R00T: amd64 is basically 64-bit for intel-like cpus and i386 32-bit. but nowadays there is rarely a reason to install an i386 system |
| 11:27.49 | Waster | and these freezes are with no any messages in logs |
| 11:27.53 | SOUL_OF_R00T | very thks ernst i follow your tip |
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| 11:33.49 | babilen | dpkg: tell SOUL_OF_R00T -about why amd64 |
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| 11:34.12 | mazzanet | anyone running testing and mariadb? |
| 11:34.46 | babilen | SOUL_OF_R00T: I mean you wouldn't think twice about installing i386 on an AMD CPU, even though it is "Intel 80386" ... also you would install it on non-386 CPUs too ;) |
| 11:34.56 | kchehab | hi,i have a directory contain alot of folder and each contain 100000000 file ,what is the fastest way to delete these folders , rm -rf is too slow |
| 11:35.14 | kchehab | and take alot of resources |
| 11:35.28 | babilen | mazzanet: Well, testing users and support are found in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, but I would be surprised if not a single person on this planet is running mariadb on testing |
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| 11:35.44 | babilen | mazzanet: So: "yes" |
| 11:36.11 | mazzanet | ah i see, topic duh |
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| 11:37.02 | babilen | mazzanet: But I am sure that you are not actually interested in the fact that somebody somewhere runs this, but that you have an actual question that you want to ask. ;) |
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| 11:38.47 | mazzanet | babilen: i actually just realised this isn't a debian question |
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| 11:38.59 | mazzanet | since mariadb has it's own apt repo |
| 11:39.14 | mazzanet | i think something broke in the repo |
| 11:39.16 | krn | Hello all, I want to work on system call level. I use debian. |
| 11:40.02 | krn | I want to know the event when ever a file write / file read occurs and want my logic to be executed before reading/writing a file. |
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| 11:40.42 | babilen | mazzanet: Well, mariadb *is* packaged in sid and you could easily pull that into testing, but there really is nothing that I can do for you without additional information. |
| 11:40.50 | krn | For this case, Where should I start.I tried inotify which logged read/write events.any guidance from the community will be greatly helpful to me. |
| 11:41.06 | babilen | mazzanet: And I would prefer to take it to #debian-next as this seems to be a testing/unstable specific issue. |
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| 11:42.14 | mazzanet | babilen: ta anyway, i'm going to take it to the maria channel |
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| 11:42.34 | babilen | mazzanet: Sure - any particular reason why you don't use the Debian packages? |
| 11:42.48 | mazzanet | well i actually didn't know it was packaged by debian |
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| 11:43.48 | babilen | judd: v mariadb-server |
| 11:43.49 | judd | Package: mariadb-server on i386 -- sid: 5.5.35-1 |
| 11:44.01 | mazzanet | side note - my issue is a dependancy between mariadb-galera-server-5.5 and mariadb-server-core-5.5 which seemed to magically appear |
| 11:44.27 | babilen | *shrug* -- unsupported third-party packages, but you realised that long ago ;D |
| 11:44.52 | mazzanet | indeed! |
| 11:45.06 | krn | From where do I need to start my activity. |
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| 11:45.34 | mazzanet | krn: check out inotifywait |
| 11:46.11 | babilen | krn: I'd ask in ##c if you plan to implement it in that language. It is hardly a Debian specific issue. ##linux is probably another great channel for this discussion. |
| 11:46.12 | munaz | hi guys, I'm trying to open a .dia file and I succeed but I'm not able to resize the objects. Is it a bug of dia? |
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| 11:48.58 | krn | ok.I worked it s great and monitors events w.r.t a directory.But what i try to implement is that, before read/write event, I want my logic to be executed before performing actual read/write call. |
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| 11:57.03 | bubu | Hey guys, I'm installing packages on nodes, but I don't want the service to automatically start when I install them. Whats the best way to get around this? |
| 11:58.04 | themill | bubu: what's the reason you want that btw? |
| 11:58.43 | trewas | krn: some LD_PRELOAD hack might be the way |
| 11:59.09 | SOUL_OF_R00T | thx babilen :) |
| 11:59.13 | bubu | themill: After installing some packages the service comes up with a default config and may make dirs etc off the back of that. I don't want that. I want to install a package. Change the config. Start the package so it uses my config the first time it starts |
| 11:59.16 | krn | @trewas,thanks.where shall I found resources related to this. |
| 11:59.42 | themill | bubu: you should be able to drop the config files you want in prior to installing the package. |
| 11:59.55 | bubu | themill: the packages overwrites these. |
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| 12:00.03 | trewas | krn: resources might be too much to ask, but just googling for "ld_preload hack" finds something relevant |
| 12:00.06 | themill | bubu: which package is this? |
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| 12:00.24 | bubu | or then I have to make all the dir structure etc myself that the package would make |
| 12:00.33 | bubu | users etc |
| 12:00.34 | abrotman | a script isn't so hard |
| 12:00.45 | themill | dpkg: tell bubu about policy-rc.d |
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| 12:01.02 | themill | bubu: you can prevent the daemon being started, but normally there are simpler ways to solve this |
| 12:01.28 | abrotman | (and not all daemons do start by default) |
| 12:01.36 | babilen | bubu: Which package is this about? |
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| 12:02.50 | oskie_ | is there a way to send force-confold force-confdef to ucf? |
| 12:03.14 | themill | oskie_: yes, you do it with environment variables. /msg dpkg ucf confmiss |
| 12:03.30 | oskie_ | themill: awesome. thanks! |
| 12:04.01 | bubu | themill: cassandra or postgres for example |
| 12:04.18 | themill | oskie_: do check the man page and be careful with the spelling of the variables |
| 12:05.35 | oskie_ | themill: weird spelling |
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| 12:06.05 | oskie_ | maybe CONFF is an abbreviation for configuration file or somethhing |
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| 12:06.30 | themill | yes |
| 12:06.33 | krn | @trewas:Sorry. |
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| 12:08.51 | bubu | themill: Would http://ircbots.debian.net/scripts/policy-rc.d-forbid-dpkg also work on ubuntu systems? |
| 12:09.50 | themill | bubu: #debian supports debian. |
| 12:10.02 | bubu | aye, shoulda guessed :P |
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| 12:11.25 | oskie_ | themill: now if you only could specify 'confold' for specific configuration files, not all... |
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| 12:13.36 | oskie_ | bubu: interesting question, considering debian is changing to systemd... |
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| 12:37.30 | horsik | if i downloaded source package using apt how should i install it? i guess i should generate .deb file because compliling it in regular way throws errors |
| 12:38.01 | bum_ | how to install latest php and php-fpm ? |
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| 12:44.48 | totte | I've got five static IP addresses for my server, https://gist.github.com/totte/9506172, and would like to set up a bridge that has each of the four last IPs assigned to an individual VM - how can this be done? I'm reading https://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Configure_Networking but I'm a bit confused. |
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| 12:46.42 | OpenTokix | totte: you need to create bridges |
| 12:47.06 | OpenTokix | totte: probably you can create just one bridge, and then bind the ips inside the VMs |
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| 12:47.59 | totte | OpenTokix: Okey, would the example provided on that page work? |
| 12:49.16 | OpenTokix | totte: how do you networking work exactly, do you have one ip via dhcp and five ips you assign statically? |
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| 12:50.14 | totte | All five IPs should be static according to my hosting provider so I'm a bot confused as to the first of them being assigned by DHCP. |
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| 12:50.58 | OpenTokix | ok, hold on - I will write a config that might work |
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| 12:54.14 | OpenTokix | totte: http://pastebin.com/JpBnmXhC <-- I have used 192.168.10.10 for your first of your five ip's, you probably need some internet on your hostmachine (guessing) - and then you bind your VMs to br0 |
| 12:54.20 | OpenTokix | totte: this should work |
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| 12:55.02 | abrotman | waves at OpenTokix |
| 12:55.11 | totte | OpenTokix: Cool, I'll give it a shot. :) |
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| 12:56.37 | OpenTokix | abrotman: hey, sup? |
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| 12:56.56 | abrotman | nothing exciting |
| 12:57.04 | abrotman | just waving! :) |
| 12:57.30 | OpenTokix | abrotman: As you do to make the time go =) |
| 12:57.39 | abrotman | heh |
| 12:57.47 | abrotman | My boss would disagree :) |
| 12:58.32 | OpenTokix | haha |
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| 13:01.05 | horsik | guys i wonder what's the reason debian requires xulrunner and other distros don't? |
| 13:01.54 | paddy | horsik: which distros do not use xulrunner? |
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| 13:02.58 | horsik | paddy: archlinux, i was really surprised |
| 13:03.18 | horsik | even though they have xulrunner in the repository firefox works without it |
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| 13:04.40 | paddy | strange that a lot of postings show up where people want xulrunner to be installed on archlinux |
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| 13:06.12 | bum_ | please help me :( i have centos on my virtual box and i don't know how to setup its networking so i can access it on my host (windows) i mean the webserver |
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| 13:06.33 | paddy | bum_: try #centos maybe |
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| 13:07.20 | horsik | paddy: i checked it myself and it seems to be true, also people on #archlinux called me stupid (obviously) for not knowing that |
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| 13:07.38 | paddy | bum_: or the general purpose channel ##linux |
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| 13:08.40 | paddy | horsik: why exactly do you want to get rid of xulrunner? |
| 13:09.09 | paddy | i think chromium uses their own development. but i am not sure |
| 13:09.13 | horsik | i don't just asking |
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| 13:18.45 | ytrezq | Hello, how I may use ld.bfd with gcc in debian? If I use the "-fuse-ld=bfd" gcc parameter. I got "/usr/bin/ld: this linker was not configured to use sysroots". |
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| 13:30.26 | DammitJim | what is the ideal way to copy files from a windows server? |
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| 13:30.37 | DammitJim | have a smbclient mount? |
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| 13:33.53 | abrotman | DammitJim: That's one method, yes .. Is it a one time thing? |
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| 13:49.08 | DammitJim | abrotman, no, a buddy is writing scripts that will run continously to copy the stuff over |
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| 13:49.43 | DammitJim | we are trying to segregate our production environment from testing and this is how we are able to move data from one environment to the other |
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| 13:53.44 | bum_ | i installed nginx, php-fpm , php-mysql mysql and my webservers is just blank but phpinfo() works |
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| 13:54.42 | elichai2 | Hi |
| 13:54.52 | elichai2 | I'm installing debian |
| 13:55.14 | elichai2 | And when I select which packages to install (standard and laptop) |
| 13:55.28 | pfote | bum_: checked php/apache error logs? sounds like a php fatal error to me |
| 13:55.32 | abrotman | bum_: are you still asking about CentOS? |
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| 13:55.37 | elichai2 | I get this error: "installation step failed" |
| 13:55.41 | elichai2 | Any idea? |
| 13:55.41 | bum_ | abrotman no debian now |
| 13:55.46 | abrotman | .. |
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| 13:56.34 | bum_ | how to see what services are running ? |
| 13:57.22 | elichai2 | someone? |
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| 13:58.30 | bum_ | or how i can install php pdo into php-fpm |
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| 13:58.53 | DammitJim | what is the best way to keep credentials secure when auto mounting a windows share (samba) |
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| 13:59.35 | OpenTokix | DammitJim: I usually source a file with the variables, - that is only readable by root or whoever does the mount |
| 14:00.05 | DammitJim | thanks OpenTokix |
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| 14:02.31 | pfote | bum_: support for PDO should be in |
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| 14:02.37 | b3h3m0th | I have installed Debian 7.4 in my GPT hard disk in legacy mode after installing windows 7 in UEFI mode. Now I am not able to boot into Debian. I am not getting an entry of Debian in UEFI mode. |
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| 14:02.59 | elichai2 | hey |
| 14:03.00 | elichai2 | s |
| 14:03.14 | elichai2 | you even saw my message? |
| 14:03.47 | pfote | elichai2: unsufficient information to say anything about your problem |
| 14:04.49 | elichai2 | i'm installing debian with netinstall |
| 14:04.58 | jpw | pfote: insufficient :P |
| 14:05.03 | pfote | ups |
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| 14:05.33 | elichai2 | and when i chose the packages "standard, Laptop" it's started installing them and in the middle of the installtion i got the error "installtion step failed" |
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| 14:05.42 | jpw | elichai2: is your network connection working? I imagine the only way it could fail is if the network connection didn't work. |
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| 14:06.17 | b3h3m0th | more details : I have installed grub-efi-amd64 just after installation of Debian ( by running a shell from installation window) and did grub-install /dev/sda again. That generated a file : grubx64.efi. I guess I need to place this somewhere to get my problem solved. Can I please get some help here ? |
| 14:06.23 | elichai2 | jpw: yes it is, i tried to move from wifi to eth and i get the same error |
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| 14:06.48 | pfote | elichai2: tried changing the mirror? |
| 14:06.56 | elichai2 | not really lol |
| 14:07.18 | pfote | maybe the mirror is broken for some reason |
| 14:07.25 | elichai2 | i will try some other mirrors |
| 14:07.44 | jdabinett | how do I tell wicd to use my external usb wifi adapter? |
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| 14:09.28 | jpw | b3h3m0th: are you getting any error messages? I've not used ufei personally but I hear there's something about disabling secure boot in the ufei settings to get linux to work in some cases. |
| 14:09.44 | klrr | anyone know which package installs the X11 utility xrdb(1)? |
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| 14:10.19 | jpw | klrr: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file-update; apt-file xrdb |
| 14:10.38 | jpw | i don't know sorry, but that's the command to find out. |
| 14:10.47 | bum_ | how i can get the latest php5-fpm ? |
| 14:10.49 | klrr | jpw: thanks! |
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| 14:12.10 | b3h3m0th | I have disabled secure boot already. I am not seeing an entry for Debian in EFI boot devices. Actually I should not expect to see that because I installed Debian in legacy mode. But after that I generated the biosx64.efi using grub-efi-amd64 . Now what I don't know is how to add this boot configuration file to the boot manager . |
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| 14:13.20 | klrr | jpw: neat tool, thanks for sharing! |
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| 14:14.39 | munaz | hi guys |
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| 14:16.25 | bum_ | i just get a blank php page .... |
| 14:16.28 | bum_ | wtf |
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| 14:16.38 | bum_ | phpinfo() works |
| 14:16.47 | bum_ | but when i use pdo in the code it returns blank |
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| 14:18.52 | klrr | emacs seems to read XResource file, is that usual behaviour? |
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| 14:24.11 | telmich | good day |
| 14:24.34 | telmich | I get a lot of errors got a single header line over 360 chars from various different servers |
| 14:24.42 | telmich | anyone else noticed this problem recently? |
| 14:25.16 | paddy | can you be more specific, telmich? |
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| 14:25.38 | bum_ | ok |
| 14:25.39 | telmich | paddy: when I run dist-upgrade, I get several such errors - including "bad header line" |
| 14:25.40 | bum_ | i need curl |
| 14:25.43 | bum_ | for php5-fpm |
| 14:25.47 | bum_ | how to install it ? |
| 14:25.48 | bum_ | please |
| 14:26.08 | babilen | bum_: You mean the php module? |
| 14:26.12 | bum_ | yes |
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| 14:26.28 | babilen | bum_: And php5-curl is not what you are looking for? |
| 14:26.41 | babilen | dpkg: tell bum_ -about enter |
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| 14:26.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell bum_ -about search |
| 14:26.47 | paddy | telmich: do they change when you choose a different mirror and "apt-get update" before? |
| 14:27.16 | bum_ | babilen im using fastCGI when i install php5-curl it knows that it regards to php-fpm ? |
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| 14:28.13 | paddy | bum_: i thought you use a centos system |
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| 14:28.23 | bum_ | no i was using centos |
| 14:28.28 | bum_ | i have 2 |
| 14:28.33 | paddy | ah |
| 14:28.33 | bum_ | but debian listen to me more |
| 14:28.44 | bum_ | i said which one will listen to me more i will use that :D |
| 14:28.51 | paddy | smiles |
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| 14:35.00 | klrr__ | is there anyway to turn of the "beep" sound from the computer? |
| 14:35.25 | dimir | xset b off |
| 14:35.32 | klrr__ | thanks |
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| 14:36.04 | jdabinett | does anyone know how to tell wicd(or the system) to use my external usb wifi adapter? I have installed the firmware |
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| 14:37.33 | mrtnt | In case of RAID4 or RAID5, for each stripe of data bits, a parity bit is stored. For example if I write 0 to drive A and 1 to drive B, then parity bit 1 is stored to drive C. Isn't this a huge load to CPU in case of Linux software-RAID if for each bit of data, a parity bit needs to be calculated? For example if I write a 1GB file to RAID5 array, then 8000000000 XOR calculations needs to be performed by CPU? |
| 14:38.28 | mjt | the cpu is capable of doing 64 XOR operations in one cycle :) |
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| 14:39.01 | mjt | or even more, considering SSE and other extensions |
| 14:39.51 | mjt | the result is that, at least for regular rotational hard drives, the cpu load is near zero when the drives are 100% busy |
| 14:40.40 | mjt | in other words, the speed with which your drives can write data isn't sufficient to cause noticeable CPU load for XOR calculations |
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| 14:47.51 | mrtnt | mjt: ok, I wasn't aware that 64bit CPU is able to make 64 XOR calculations with one cycle. |
| 14:48.26 | mjt | that's just one calculation really |
| 14:48.45 | mjt | because the cpu operates with words, not with bits |
| 14:49.04 | mrtnt | mjt: ok, thanks! |
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| 14:55.49 | musca | mrtnt: writing to a raid5 array has a huge overhead: you need to read all stripes, alter one of them, calculate the parity and write both, the altered stripe and the parity back to the media. |
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| 14:56.23 | musca | waiting for the read hurts performance really bad. |
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| 14:59.38 | porton | How to install Kate "Find in Files" plugin? (First, where to download it?) |
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| 15:01.49 | paddy | porton: you can search for packages with "apt-cache search" and then install it using "apt-get install" |
| 15:02.07 | paddy | or use aptitude |
| 15:02.08 | porton | paddy: I've searched but have not found the package I want |
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| 15:02.24 | paddy | porton: you mean "Kate" the advanced editor? |
| 15:02.52 | porton | paddy: Yes. And somewhere in the Web, it's written there is "Find in Files" plugin |
| 15:02.53 | musca | !locate |
| 15:02.54 | dpkg | locate is a tool for finding files on your hard drive using a precompiled database rather than searching the actual drive using "find" (ask me about <find.cli>). Formerly provided in the findutils package, ask me about <missing locate>; <mlocate> is usually the best option. |
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| 15:03.28 | porton | musca: It is unrelated with find and locate commands |
| 15:03.48 | musca | ah, i see. |
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| 15:05.08 | Brigo | ,v kate |
| 15:05.09 | judd | Package: kate on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-1; jessie: 4:4.11.5-1; sid: 4:4.11.5-1; experimental: 4:4.12.3-1 |
| 15:05.13 | porton | Where to download Kate plugins? (or maybe "Kate extensions" is a more correct name) |
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| 15:05.30 | Solution-X | working on an auto-install script for noobies and finding myself to be noobish as well. This portion of the script looks right to me but obviously is not. returning error line 39, unexpected "[" |
| 15:05.33 | Solution-X | https://github.com/smokeyrd/Sab-SB-CP-HP-auto-install/edit/master/Install-newuser.sh# |
| 15:05.48 | Solution-X | anyone able to eyeball what i did wrong there? |
| 15:05.51 | paddy | porton: you mean this? http://www.kate-editor.org/doc/kate-application-plugin-searchinfiles.html |
| 15:06.11 | porton | paddy: Yes, but where to download it?! |
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| 15:06.59 | paddy | hmmm! |
| 15:07.01 | musca | porton: http://www.kate-editor.org/doc/kate-application-plugin-searchinfiles.html |
| 15:07.06 | porton | Oh, I see my error: I confused plugins and extensions! |
| 15:07.19 | musca | hehe, late finding :) |
| 15:07.20 | Brigo | porton, it looks like it is in kate, you only have to enable it. |
| 15:07.24 | paddy | hehe |
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| 15:07.40 | porton | Brigo: It is enabled but I don't see it in the menu |
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| 15:08.04 | porton | Yeah, I' |
| 15:08.13 | Brigo | The long text box at the top is where you type in what you want to find. You may enter standard text, or a regular expression if enabled. |
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| 15:08.15 | porton | Yeah, I've found it! Bye |
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| 15:08.40 | Brigo | porton, you are wellcome!! :-D |
| 15:08.45 | Solution-X | well, that was a quick visit from porton |
| 15:08.46 | paddy | :D |
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| 15:10.10 | Solution-X | Brigo- can i poke you on my issue? its a bit up but i can also repaste |
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| 15:14.27 | Brigo | Solution-X, let try :-) |
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| 15:15.00 | spectie | hey all! |
| 15:15.02 | spectie | does anyone have experience getting debian to boot on a mac ? |
| 15:15.04 | spectie | i've managed to install it, but getting it to boot is a challenge |
| 15:15.24 | spectie | i want to dual boot with the mac, so i installed refind |
| 15:15.46 | Rahul21 | Hello everyone, I am stuck in a problem, on boot I get the error "Could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm3/.ICE authority" I am on Wheezy 64bit |
| 15:15.46 | spectie | but when i try to install grub to my partition, it fails |
| 15:16.00 | spectie | and when i try and install it to a usb stick, and boot from that, it also fails |
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| 15:16.16 | spectie | the error i get is: grub unable to identify a filesystem |
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| 15:18.10 | paddy | Rahul21: try this: /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop && rm /var/lib/gdm3/.ICEauthority* && /etc/init.d/gdm3 start |
| 15:18.30 | Brigo | !tell spectie about apple |
| 15:18.57 | spectie | thanks! |
| 15:19.00 | spectie | i've read the docs |
| 15:19.12 | Rahul21 | paddy: i did that, didn't help |
| 15:19.15 | spectie | but couldn't find the solution to my problem |
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| 15:20.04 | paddy | Rahul21: then lets try: apt-get install --reinstall gdm3 |
| 15:20.32 | Rahul21 | paddy: I hope no side effects to reinstalling it :P |
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| 15:21.21 | Brigo | spectie, with this error? "smpboot: Booting Node 0, Processors #1" |
| 15:21.25 | paddy | Rahul21: :P |
| 15:21.47 | Rahul21 | paddy: on a serious note, its safe to do it right? |
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| 15:22.16 | paddy | Rahul21: if you feel uncomfortable do not do it |
| 15:22.51 | jdabinett | so the device is listed in lsusb, I have the drivers installed.. but how on earth to enable/set as default wifi device? |
| 15:23.14 | paddy | Rahul21: alternatively you could browse the web where you put in the search what you posted in quotes e.g. |
| 15:23.16 | tucow | Are there some BeagleBone Black users? We now do ship Perks for free worldwide, have a look: http://igg.me/at/ShieldIO/x/3353417 |
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| 15:24.40 | Resilience | I would like to run an image of a debian box made with dd i a liunx box or windows box, which on eis better? vbox o qemu? |
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| 15:25.29 | wols | virtualbox would probably be a bit easier to use |
| 15:25.30 | vimel | ive used vbox to run debian. everything works fine. |
| 15:25.58 | Resilience | vimel, from an image taken with dd? |
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| 15:26.33 | Solution-X | working on an auto-install script for noobies and finding myself to be noobish as well. This portion of the script looks right to me but obviously is not. returning error line 39, unexpected "[" |
| 15:26.33 | Solution-X | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.33 | Solution-X | anyone able to eyeball what i did wrong there? |
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| 15:27.01 | vimel | i havent tried it. but if your host is windows, just use the ISO to install debian into vbox for your guest. thats what I do. just mount ISO as a CD |
| 15:27.12 | paddy | Solution-X: if nobody answers in a timely fashion you could try to ask on #bash |
| 15:27.12 | vimel | when choosing disk. |
| 15:27.25 | paddy | they are excellent helpers for bash related things |
| 15:27.26 | petn-randall | Resilience: dd is not the best way to take snapshots, if you're system is running, your image will be corrupt, and it also copies unused areas of the filesystem. |
| 15:27.39 | Resilience | vimel, I want to run a copy of the debian vox, not a debian box, but the debian box et installed |
| 15:27.51 | Solution-X | paddy- nice suggestion...thanks! |
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| 15:28.04 | Resilience | petemc, and what way do you recommend me? |
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| 15:32.33 | klrr | anyone know of a package that includes ubuntu's monospace font? i can only find their title font |
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| 15:32.56 | spectie | Brigo, |
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| 15:32.59 | spectie | <Brigo> spectie, with this error? "smpboot: Booting Node 0, Processors #1" |
| 15:33.00 | spectie | no |
| 15:33.02 | spectie | not with that error |
| 15:33.32 | spectie | i think that that error was to do with it installing grub to the second usb stick |
| 15:33.39 | spectie | as a loader for the first |
| 15:33.47 | spectie | (the first usb stick is wher i have the install .iso image |
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| 15:33.58 | Resilience | petn-randall, and what way do you recommend me? |
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| 15:34.13 | spectie | the challenge seems to be to a) install grub somewhere; b) get refind to know where i installed grub |
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| 15:35.05 | paddy | klrr: have you tried http://font.ubuntu.com/ already? |
| 15:35.39 | Brigo | spectie, what mac do you have? |
| 15:35.42 | klrr | nope, but i oculd aswell try install them manually |
| 15:35.58 | spectie | Brigo, macbookpro 13" retina |
| 15:36.05 | spectie | Brigo, 256Gb sd |
| 15:36.12 | paddy | klrr: that is the way, yes |
| 15:36.26 | paddy | !install font |
| 15:36.26 | dpkg | To install <fonts> for just one user, copy them into ~/.fonts/ and then run fc-cache -fv (or ask me about <install font kde>, <install font gnome>). To install system-wide, copy them into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts or into /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts (but you will have to add /usr/local/share/fonts/ to your xorg.conf) and run fc-cache -fv as root. |
| 15:36.47 | klrr | oh, thanks! |
| 15:36.54 | spectie | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBookPro/11-1 |
| 15:36.54 | paddy | welcome :o) |
| 15:36.59 | lucif3r | Is there a way I can completely disable my dedicated Graphics card in debian ? I installed ATI graphics drivers following this link : https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 15:36.59 | spectie | brigo --^ |
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| 15:37.21 | spectie | Brigo, i'm using jessie (testing iso) |
| 15:37.37 | Brigo | spectie, there are severals macbookpro 13" retina |
| 15:37.37 | spectie | as my network card was not recognised with wheezy |
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| 15:38.06 | Sbroker | hi from Spain julandrones anglo hablantes |
| 15:38.11 | spectie | haha |
| 15:38.13 | klrr | !install font gnome |
| 15:38.13 | dpkg | To install a font for your user with the GNOME tools, open the font file from nautilus and then click "Install font" in that dialogue. You can also run "gnome-font-viewer" from the command line. Screencast at http://people.debian.org/~lindi/screencast/install-font2.ogv . See also <install font> <font install kde>. |
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| 15:38.21 | paddy | lucif3r: you mean you have 2 cards in the system and want to disable 1 of them? |
| 15:38.21 | spectie | aquà se puede hablar español también ? |
| 15:38.27 | spectie | o es sólo inglés ? |
| 15:38.37 | paddy | spectie: #debian-es |
| 15:38.40 | spectie | ah ok |
| 15:38.45 | spectie | well, i don't mind |
| 15:38.47 | spectie | either way |
| 15:39.09 | lucif3r | paddy: exactly. My system comes with 2 graphics cards ( cross firing because it runs on AMD processor- A10) |
| 15:39.13 | petn-randall | Resilience: Depends on what you have and what you want to do. |
| 15:39.40 | lucif3r | paddy: overheating a big issue now even after installing the drivers from that link. |
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| 15:40.06 | paddy | !blacklist |
| 15:40.07 | dpkg | To blacklist a Linux kernel module, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 15:40.12 | paddy | lucif3r: ^^ |
| 15:40.21 | klrr | anyone got an idea why fonts render differently inside the terminal vs isnide emacs? |
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| 15:41.49 | paddy | on the other side, when i think of it. this does not solve the overheating problem, because the card will still be powered |
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| 15:43.10 | lucif3r | I don't know why but arbitrarily the card turns on without any load and performs at maximum speed sometimes and after sometime, it may stop |
| 15:43.19 | lucif3r | Don't know why this is happening |
| 15:43.41 | Brigo | lucif3r, are you talking about a wifi card? |
| 15:43.51 | lucif3r | no. Graphics card ! |
| 15:44.28 | lucif3r | I don't have any use of that dedicated graphics card in debian. So if I could turn it off or something, it will be great ! |
| 15:44.35 | SURKITZ | Hi All |
| 15:45.09 | SURKITZ | Does anyone have a good knowledge of lsusb wifi adapters? |
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| 15:46.48 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 15:46.48 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 15:52.37 | Alpha-17 | hello everyone, is there any drawback to format an entire data disk, I mean : no need of booting capability ? |
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| 15:54.38 | mjt | Alpha-17: sure. it is the time this operation takes. |
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| 15:57.01 | Alpha-17 | mjt: ok but if I partitionate a disk with only one partition and format it, it will take the exact same time |
| 15:57.48 | mjt | you can only format whole disk, not partition |
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| 15:58.01 | mjt | you can create filesystem on whole disk or a partition |
| 15:58.12 | mjt | formatting a disk is very rarely done these days |
| 15:58.34 | mjt | formatting a disk mean to create sector boundaries on it |
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| 16:01.13 | spectie | if i want a gnome3 desktop without unity |
| 16:01.18 | spectie | what would people recommend in debian ? |
| 16:02.12 | k0fee | abcuser wrote a script that helped me set a limit using the app cpulimit, this way if i run a batch process on wheezy it won't max out, wanted to let others know in case anyone didn't know of it, say thanx for helping me yesterday also, appreciate it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992706 |
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| 16:02.44 | mtn | spectie: gnome3 does not use unity |
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| 16:03.29 | spectie | mtn, aha |
| 16:03.33 | spectie | so i can just install gnome3 ? |
| 16:03.38 | mtn | spectie: sure |
| 16:03.48 | spectie | what window manager does it use by default ? |
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| 16:04.10 | mtn | spectie: gnome-shell is the name, I believe |
| 16:04.16 | spectie | aha |
| 16:04.37 | k0fee | i finally got debian set up the way i like, a lot of trial/error but got her all happy, have a good day |
| 16:04.38 | spectie | oh |
| 16:04.46 | spectie | that's basically what i thought was unity |
| 16:04.59 | mtn | spectie: unity is an ubuntu desktop |
| 16:05.03 | spectie | is there a way to get gnome 2.x style |
| 16:05.30 | mtn | spectie: in debian stable, the closest you will get is xfce |
| 16:05.54 | spectie | :/ |
| 16:06.03 | Brigo | spectie, gnome3 has a classic version, and you allways can install mante from mate.desktop.org, a fork of gnome2 |
| 16:06.07 | zinx | not cinnamon? |
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| 16:06.20 | spectie | aha, how do i get the classic version in gnome3 ? |
| 16:06.27 | Brigo | cinnamon too, but i think it is not very well in stabel. |
| 16:06.29 | dotDeb | what's the best place to buy debian merchandise? there are so many! |
| 16:06.30 | Brigo | stable* |
| 16:06.34 | dotDeb | specifically a t-shirt |
| 16:06.50 | Brigo | spectie, you can select it at login. |
| 16:06.53 | mtn | spectie: it is a login choice |
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| 16:07.05 | Brigo | dotDeb, debian.org? :-) |
| 16:07.21 | spectie | aha ok |
| 16:07.23 | spectie | brb |
| 16:07.40 | dotDeb | Brigo |
| 16:07.42 | dotDeb | As Debian's popularity has grown, we have received many requests for Debian merchandise. Being a non-profit organization, we don't make or sell anything ourselves. Luckily, a number of companies have seen a potential market and are trying to fill it. The information below is provided as a favor to our loyal users. |
| 16:08.12 | Brigo | dotDeb, oh, i didnt know it. |
| 16:08.18 | dotDeb | Brigo no problem :) |
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| 16:11.12 | dotDeb | so, anyone have experience buying debian merchandise> |
| 16:11.14 | dotDeb | *? |
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| 16:14.39 | Alpha-17 | mjt: ok, sorry for me : format = create a file system on a disk/partition. Anyway, no drawbacks, do you agree ? I just don't want to reinstall my system and realize there are drawbacks then. |
| 16:15.35 | paddy | the tip that smaller partitions speed up the system was from old FAT16 days, i think |
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| 16:16.00 | mjt | if the question is whenever it's okay to use whole disk as a single filesystem without partitioning it, the answer is yes. |
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| 16:22.00 | Alpha-17 | mjt: ok, thank you for the confirmation |
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| 16:53.56 | Rahul21 | paddy: hello, sorry to disturb you |
| 16:55.21 | ectospasm | !ask |
| 16:55.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 16:57.29 | bum_ | how i can get php 5.5.10 php-pfm i obtained 5.4.4 |
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| 16:58.04 | nkuttler | ,v php5-fpm |
| 16:58.06 | judd | Package: php5-fpm on i386 -- wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; jessie: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; experimental: 5.6.0~alpha2+dfsg-1 |
| 16:58.16 | nkuttler | bum_: you don't |
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| 16:59.55 | bum_ | jessie is a new version like wheezy ? |
| 17:00.00 | bum_ | when comes jessie out ? |
| 17:00.50 | ectospasm | when it's ready |
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| 17:01.41 | rhybrid_vigo | probably 2015 |
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| 17:02.09 | rhybrid_vigo | https://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html |
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| 17:03.26 | rhybrid_vigo | if you want that later version of that php package you'll need to pull source |
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| 17:35.09 | gele | hello! |
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| 17:35.29 | abrotman | hi |
| 17:35.46 | gele | is there a standard tool that logs the memory use of the largest processes over a long time? i suspect that something i'm using is leaking memory, but i'm not sure what. |
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| 17:36.07 | gele | something that produced comma-separated values that i could just feed to gnuplot would be great. |
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| 17:37.22 | paddy | maybe something like kmtrace is of use to you |
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| 17:40.40 | mjevans | There's a package that according to the bug tracking system was /just/ updated today. I would like to test this package as it supposedly resolves a problem that I have; however it has not yet reached any of the mirrors in the debian mirror list. Where can I find this package? |
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| 17:41.19 | paddy | mjevans: maybe it is in the ftpmaster queue |
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| 17:41.50 | paddy | or it is blocked by security.* |
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| 17:43.23 | mjevans | paddy: I'm not seeing it in the new / deferred lists on https://ftp-master.debian.org/ |
| 17:43.44 | gnugnu9 | When eatmydata is installed, will it take effect on the box it is installed on or does it just provide a library? |
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| 17:44.27 | paddy | mjevans: how did you take note of the new package - just out of curiousity :) |
| 17:44.46 | mjevans | paddy: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717141 The most recent reply to this bug report |
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| 17:46.25 | paddy | wow you guys are fast |
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| 17:46.39 | paddy | maybe they are still knitting and uploading the package |
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| 17:47.09 | mjevans | Where can I expect it to appear soonest? |
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| 17:47.43 | paddy | let see, the maintainer is here on channel |
| 17:47.47 | mjevans | I only just /happened/ to be stumbling across this as I was tracking down how to get ganety 2.10 working the way I wanted. |
| 17:48.31 | paddy | looks suspiciously in mjt's direction |
| 17:48.33 | cybrNaut | SSD users-- what filesystem are you using? |
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| 17:49.17 | paddy | cybrNaut: personally, i suggest EXT4 |
| 17:49.18 | Elemeno-Work | I'm using ext4, but I couldn't tell you why |
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| 17:49.51 | paddy | the alternatives are not reliable enough |
| 17:50.00 | mjevans | also looks at mjt, thinking about the recently updated qemu-kvm package for amd64 |
| 17:50.01 | cybrNaut | paddy: ext4 has journaling, which is useless for ssd |
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| 17:50.29 | cybrNaut | paddy: i've heard ext2 would be a better choice |
| 17:50.50 | cybrNaut | but i'm thinking NILFS would be even better.. just not sure if debian supports it yet |
| 17:50.52 | paddy | cybrNaut: then you heard various opinions now that differ |
| 17:51.02 | mjevans | cybrNaut: I happen to use btrfs on my SSD; however as it's an SSD I also have a good backup policy in place; so the instability of the filesystem isn't something I worry too much about. It also hasn't actually bitten me /recently/... at least since that stupid sparse file related corruption bug. |
| 17:51.04 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: ext4 |
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| 17:51.26 | cybrNaut | iirc, ext4 only offers more journeling than ext2/3 |
| 17:51.45 | mjevans | cybrNaut: you might also consider F2FS as an option, depending on your use case. |
| 17:51.49 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: You are wrong, and wrong about whether journaling is useful. |
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| 17:51.59 | mjevans | cybrNaut: ext4 offers extents instead of inode clusters; you want that. |
| 17:52.22 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: You need more and more correct information about filesystems. |
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| 17:53.14 | agent_smith | reiserfs is the best . |
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| 17:53.18 | cybrNaut | ext4 avoids fragmentation, no? fragmentation is a non-issue for ssds |
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| 17:53.47 | nkuttler | cybrNaut: mostly, yeah |
| 17:55.09 | bum_ | apt-get is older than aptitute ? |
| 17:55.15 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: https://wiki.debian.org/FileSystem |
| 17:55.18 | paddy | bum_: yes |
| 17:55.34 | bum_ | paddy should users use aptitute instead of apt-get than ? |
| 17:55.36 | mjevans | I think dselect is older than aptitude... but I'm not fully sure on that. |
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| 17:56.01 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization <- "Use the ext4 filesytem (the most mature filesystem) unless you have reason not to." |
| 17:56.02 | paddy | bum_: aptitude has a bit more features but most people do not need them. so the choice is open |
| 17:56.13 | mjevans | bum_: that depends on many factors. If you have to /ask/ which one you should use, I suggest trying out synaptic (the GUI one) first |
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| 17:56.28 | paddy | not synaptic :( |
| 17:56.33 | paddy | runs away |
| 17:56.38 | bum_ | mjevans im on command line i not use any GUI |
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| 17:57.14 | cybrNaut | jhutchins: thanks, but wiki.debian.org is apparently blocking tor. Hopefully it's temporary |
| 17:57.30 | rhybrid_vigo | i thought i read somewhere that aptitude is no longer preferred with wheezy |
| 17:57.42 | mjevans | paddy: If someone is /asking/ which they should use, chances are they haven't done admin work on debian before; given the lack of other qualifications in the question the most fitting one is the one that will hold their hand the most. |
| 17:57.54 | cybrNaut | hmm.. guess it was just a bad exit node |
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| 17:57.58 | paddy | mjevans: there is always the chance to learn :) |
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| 17:58.24 | bum_ | where on the documentation i can find what official deb i should configure on my linux ? |
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| 17:58.39 | paddy | bum_: nowhere cause the choice is yours |
| 17:58.45 | mjevans | bum_: On extremely lean systems I only keep apt-get installed (out of those I might use); otherwise I like the features and dependency resolution options that aptitude provides. It works very well with pinning. |
| 17:58.51 | bum_ | paddy but i mean the official deb sources |
| 17:58.58 | cybrNaut | anyway, i'll use ext4 until NILFS matures on debian |
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| 17:59.49 | paddy | bum_: install the debian-handbook and look what they use e.g. |
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| 18:00.04 | totte | I'm stuck trying to set up bridges for Xen PV guests... I've got a Debian 7.4 "Wheezy" server running and reading wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Beginners_Guide. I have five IP addresses, 0.0.0.11-15, and have been able to set the first one "statically" in /etc/network/interfaces, but I'm lost on as to how I am to have that first one be for dom0 and the other four ones for their separate guests. Five IPs, one dom0, four guests. Any advice? https://gist.github.com/ |
| 18:00.05 | totte | totte/4a9c22cc49488a0624bc |
| 18:00.14 | totte | https://gist.github.com/totte/4a9c22cc49488a0624bc |
| 18:00.20 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: System optimization for SSDs is getting less important. |
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| 18:01.55 | rhybrid_vigo | totte: im not familiar with that guide but you'll have to statically assign them |
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| 18:02.50 | rhybrid_vigo | totte: once you have dom0 setup statically, spin up your VMs (domU). you can get inside them with xm/xe console |
| 18:03.02 | rhybrid_vigo | otherwise you'll need to setup a dhcp server that listens on the bridge |
| 18:03.09 | cybrNaut | jhutchins: right, so I would be keen to dump all the complexity that spinning platters call for, in exchange for real-time version control and features that are actually useful. Certainly I don't need the logic that carefully positions data on the platter in an optimal way |
| 18:04.01 | cat_pants | Hi folks. How do I determine what driver is being used for my wifi card? I am aware of lsmod, but how do I know what to grep for if I don't know the driver name? |
| 18:04.16 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: Or just don't worry about it. |
| 18:04.18 | totte | rhybrid_vigo: So I am to open each VM and edit /etc/network/interfaces there? |
| 18:04.34 | jhutchins | cat_pants: ethtool will tell you that. |
| 18:05.26 | jhutchins | cat_pants: ethtool -i wlan0 |
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| 18:05.39 | mjevans | totte: pretty much; or you could setup a DHCP server on just the bridge interface; surprisingly dnsmasq is an easy solution for that. |
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| 18:06.07 | cat_pants | jhutchins: Thank you! |
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| 18:06.19 | totte | How can I tell if the bridge I created even works? |
| 18:06.38 | mjevans | totte: brctl |
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| 18:07.20 | totte | mjevans: Thanks, will have a look. |
| 18:07.23 | cybrNaut | jhutchins: what's still unclear is how ext4 is going to balance writes, so that the number of writes are distributed somewhat evenly across all locations |
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| 18:07.47 | mjevans | cybrNaut: for an SSD with modern firmware; that is handled by the SSD. |
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| 18:08.02 | rhybrid_vigo | totte: run tcpdump on the bridge directly |
| 18:08.08 | rhybrid_vigo | you should see the traffic |
| 18:08.10 | cybrNaut | mjevans: okay, thanks |
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| 18:11.13 | xreal | Is it possible to set locales and keyboard without dialog or manual input by script? |
| 18:11.21 | Beliq | does anyone know how to compile C++ when there is no ./configure to load |
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| 18:11.37 | Beliq | make install it giving an output "make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
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| 18:11.56 | Beliq | I am not familiar with make that much |
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| 18:13.24 | cybrNaut | xreal: you mean at install time? or you want to switch after installing? |
| 18:13.40 | xreal | cybrNaut: after installing |
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| 18:14.44 | cybrNaut | xreal: i think locale is just a matter of changing an environment variable. |
| 18:15.24 | cybrNaut | xreal: for the keyboard, you can have multiple keyboards configured in gnome |
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| 18:15.37 | halt | Hi all, how can i add to my bashrc/profile a setting to be able to tab into the filter under an string as well, ( i try to use augeas tool but the files are located under /files/ so i can't use the TAB to autocompilite the file/folder names ) |
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| 18:17.13 | cybrNaut | xreal: e.g., i added the dvorak layout in the gnome keyboard preferences (layout tab), and i can change layouts just by clicking a flag in the panel.. which can probably be scripted |
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| 18:17.24 | xreal | cybrNaut: I never used a GUI in linux :D |
| 18:17.27 | xreal | cybrNaut: console only |
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| 18:18.11 | cybrNaut | xreal: well if you have no x server or desktop, then I couldn't tell you how to do that |
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| 18:19.27 | mwarning | I have a problem that seem to be specific to Iceweasel. |
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| 18:19.58 | mwarning | On this site (http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/file/dndfiles/) I cannot drop text files (.txt). |
| 18:20.04 | mwarning | but everything else works. |
| 18:20.22 | mwarning | There is a "Drop files here" area) |
| 18:20.32 | mwarning | Can somebody confirm? |
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| 18:29.48 | tharkun | !paste |
| 18:29.48 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 19:39.23 | fireblood | Hi. I was recently playing The mana world and changed the game settings to fullscreen. When i quit the game the screen resolution on gnome was changed to a lesser setting. When i try to change the screen resolution back, the screen goes black and unresponsive. Is there any way to reset my gnome? |
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| 19:39.36 | fireblood | or another solution that will fix my problem? |
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| 19:43.50 | paddy | fireblood: have you searched the web for a bug related to this problem already? |
| 19:44.11 | cat_pants | Take a look at arandr for setting screen resolution |
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| 19:46.43 | fireblood | Yes, i have tried but i don't know what to exactly search for. I searched for how to reset the gnome. Thats why i asked the question here, so i could explain my problem. |
| 19:47.44 | paddy | it was good that you asked |
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| 19:49.39 | module000 | fireblood: does your software keep it's config in ~/.manaworld or something similar? if so, perhaps you can see a config file in there that contains your fullscreen setting and remove it |
| 19:49.56 | jhutchins | fireblood: You might search for resolution problems related to mena. |
| 19:50.07 | jhutchins | s/mena/mana/ |
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| 19:51.10 | fireblood | Well i removed the mana world and its configure files, because i thought that maybe could change the problem. |
| 19:51.24 | fireblood | i will check for TMW specific problems thx! |
| 19:51.34 | fireblood | look* |
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| 19:52.54 | fireblood | fix the problem* |
| 19:53.12 | jhutchins | fireblood: You can try creating another user and logging in as that user. If the problem goes away, the settings are user-specific and related to something in your $HOME - probably in a hidden file (begins with a .). |
| 19:53.41 | fireblood | ok i will try it |
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| 19:54.49 | jhutchins | fireblood: You can also look for /etc/X11/xorg.conf or files in /etc/X11/conf.d/ - unless you've installed nvidia drivers or something special, you shouldn't need those (but be careful about removing them - make sure you know where they came from first). |
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| 19:57.14 | xerox | hello, does anyone know what might be the reason why apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev fails with: libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (= 5.5.35+dfsg-0+wheezy1) but 5.5.35-rel33.0-611.wheezy is to be installed |
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| 19:58.25 | centrx | xerox, You have a non-Debian-distribute version of libmysqlclient18 installed? |
| 19:58.34 | xerox | centrx: how do I check that? |
| 19:59.33 | centrx | ,v libmysqlclient18 |
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| 19:59.34 | judd | Package: libmysqlclient18 on i386 -- wheezy: 5.5.33+dfsg-0+wheezy1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.5.35+dfsg-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.35+dfsg-0+wheezy1; jessie: 5.5.35+dfsg-2; sid: 5.5.35+dfsg-2 |
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| 19:59.50 | centrx | xerox, That's what the version number means, 5.5.35-rel33.0-611.wheezy is not distributed by Debian |
| 20:00.02 | babilen | xerox: Paste your sources.list along with the output of "apt-cache policy libmysqlclient18" -- Also include your command and the entire output and put it all on http://paste.debian.net |
| 20:00.22 | centrx | xerox, Looks like it is from Percona Server |
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| 20:00.26 | xerox | let's see! |
| 20:00.55 | spectie | hey all! |
| 20:01.07 | spectie | has anyone come across this problem with X/gnome before: http://i.imgur.com/HWN690z.jpg |
| 20:01.09 | spektrum_ | babilen: nice to see you here too. :p |
| 20:02.50 | leftist | i'm wondering why i can get lfs game servers to run in debian 7 and everything works perfect, however, while i have setup Enemy Territory, i can't access it remotely. any ideas? |
| 20:02.53 | xerox | centrx, babilen, here it is: http://paste.debian.net/87353/ |
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| 20:05.18 | babilen | xerox: You have a unsupported third-party manual install of libmysqlclient18 there and it is likely that *somebody* installed that from percona-server sources (the version number matches), but we would have to dig into the logs. Please verify that the system is in a state in which you can trust it, review your apt logs and auth.log and consider purging those third-party packages. |
| 20:06.14 | xerox | babilen: wow. |
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| 20:07.47 | xerox | babilen: so a way around this is using libmysqlclient from percona? |
| 20:08.30 | babilen | xerox: I will neither recommend nor support anything that doesn't come from the Debian repositories. |
| 20:08.49 | xerox | babilen: fair enough! |
| 20:09.33 | centrx | xerox, I would figure out why you have Percona server installed in the first place. |
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| 20:09.45 | babilen | And *who* installed it |
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| 20:10.16 | centrx | is reminded of someone installing Oracle on his Debian server |
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| 20:10.47 | xerox | my co-worker just slapped his forehead and mentioned that he installed it from percona long ago |
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| 20:12.01 | centrx | "So that's where I left my database server!" |
| 20:12.21 | xerox | hahaha now some decision has to be made in order to go forward :) |
| 20:12.34 | centrx | spectie, Try #gnome |
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| 20:12.56 | Cpuroast | I'm guessing since kernel 3.12 is the 11th long-term stable release from November 2013 to 2016 |
| 20:13.02 | Cpuroast | Debian 8 will ship with that one |
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| 20:13.47 | xerox | centrx, babilen, thanks so much, we're going to use a different machine that doesn't have this "problem" :) |
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| 20:13.59 | babilen | xerox: Well, we will obviously recommend to use the normal Debian packages. It will also, almost certainly, mean fewer problems during the next upgrade to jessie. I mean if you can't even remember why you installed those then, well, don't keep them. |
| 20:14.19 | spectie | centrx, thanks! |
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| 20:14.49 | xerox | what the hell is percona anyway |
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| 20:15.27 | centrx | xerox, It is a fork/improved version of MySQL by a third-party company |
| 20:15.51 | bum_ | why my favicon.ico no work on debian |
| 20:15.57 | bum_ | i cannot load it on my html page |
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| 20:16.32 | xerox | pretty sure we should be on mariadb everywhere, this is a relic of another era that came up in very particular circumstances |
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| 20:19.00 | xerox | well thank you again, you made my day |
| 20:19.10 | xerox | have a good day/evening/whatever is relevant to your timezone |
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| 20:19.25 | centrx | Thanks |
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| 20:20.01 | spektrum_ | bum: wrong file permissions? |
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| 20:22.28 | nath | morning fellows, I got a lil problem on my Debian 'stable' distro. I'm using a USB MIDI Keyb. from the Company 'MIDITECH', the device has been working all time from scratch, |
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| 20:23.01 | nath | for some reason I do not get it actaivated anymore, Ports don't appear in 'Patchage' etc |
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| 20:23.56 | nath | the app #terminal-devices still detects the keyboard, vendor: 'Hua Xing' does anyone know, what packet could be broaken? |
| 20:24.34 | centrx | nath, Did this happen after doing an upgrade/security updates? |
| 20:24.48 | nath | centrx: possibly/maybe :-/ |
| 20:25.08 | nath | centrx: I had not been using it for a while, there was updates in between |
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| 20:26.02 | nath | centrx: do you know what packets contain the driver/kernel-patch? I thought it was usb-modeswitch...? |
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| 20:27.16 | centrx | nath, Yeah I don't know. There is a usb-modeswitch package. |
| 20:27.40 | nath | centrx: anyway, I purged and reinstalled this one, did not work |
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| 20:28.38 | centrx | nath, You might try asking in #debian-multimedia on OFTC |
| 20:28.49 | nath | centrx: though, it is using ALSA-MIDI, I could try to get some hints over ther.... |
| 20:29.21 | nath | centrx: ok thanks :-) |
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| 20:36.55 | GJdan | Anyone know a good way to run php 5.3 in wheezy along side 5.4? |
| 20:37.03 | GJdan | I'll settle for 5.2 |
| 20:37.27 | GJdan | I see a little php52 backports project, but it seems it's a pain to compile in wheezy due to libs |
| 20:37.30 | dondelelcaro | GJdan: you'll have to install it in a separate location or similar |
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| 20:38.04 | dondelelcaro | GJdan: backporting it isn't that hard, either |
| 20:38.24 | cff | GJdan: containers? |
| 20:40.57 | GJdan | I see.. seems what I'm looking at is the freebsd php52-backports project which gets security updates of sorts still.. |
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| 20:43.20 | nath | excuse me: I mean the app: #usb-devices, the output is: http://pastebin.com/0W7WjYRZ |
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| 20:44.35 | pupil | hello good morning |
| 20:45.39 | pupil | does debian redirect package update?? |
| 20:46.06 | babilen | pupil: What do you mean by "redirect" ? |
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| 20:49.05 | bsdbeard | Some fonts don't seem to display properly in chrome, I think it's because they're windows fonts, I've tried installing ttf-mscorefonts-installer but it didnt help, is there any other package? |
| 20:49.49 | pupil | babilen: i try to update to main repo, but another repois detected in my snort |
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| 20:50.38 | pupil | bsdbeard: does the fonts replace by boxes?? |
| 20:50.46 | Neobenedict | hi folks while compiling something I get this error: |
| 20:50.48 | Neobenedict | checking for MySQL library directory... configure: error: Didn't find mysqlclient library in '/usr/lib64 /usr/lib /usr/lib64/mysql /usr/lib/mysql /usr/local/lib64 /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/mysql /usr/local/mysql/lib /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql /usr/mysql/lib/mysql /opt/mysql/lib /opt/mysql/lib/mysql /sw/lib /sw/lib/mysql' |
| 20:50.53 | Neobenedict | or, ./configure |
| 20:50.54 | babilen | dpkg: paste |
| 20:50.54 | Neobenedict | 'ing |
| 20:50.55 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 20:51.01 | bsdbeard | pupil, Not quite... I'll upload a screenshot in a sec |
| 20:51.02 | eKyNoX | Bam :) |
| 20:51.02 | Neobenedict | that is not more than 2 lines babilen |
| 20:51.21 | thaicares | I've been having a lot of issues with my wifi.... lately I have been able to rely on it anywhere from 3minutes - 2days but it does eventually quit on me! |
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| 20:51.42 | babilen | Neobenedict: indeed, still much more useful to have it in a pastebin with your command, but meh .. |
| 20:51.46 | centrx | Neobenedict, You need the -dev package for libmysqlclient, which contains header/development files to compile with |
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| 20:51.54 | babilen | pupil: Sorry, I don't quite follow. |
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| 20:52.04 | Neobenedict | libmysqlclient-dev and libmysql++-dev are installed already |
| 20:52.08 | Neobenedict | centrx |
| 20:52.28 | bsdbeard | pupil, http://i.imgur.com/RFYgYen.png |
| 20:52.53 | pupil | babilen: i try to update my debian, and the target repo is security.debian.org |
| 20:53.27 | babilen | pupil: That sounds about right, not sure what you mean by "target" repo, but security updates should come from there. |
| 20:53.51 | eKyNoX | agrees |
| 20:53.54 | pupil | but my snort detect connection to another ip address (hostname) |
| 20:53.58 | thaicares | Could anyone help with my wifi issue? It goes out on its own and to get it to work I have to restart the system! |
| 20:54.26 | babilen | pupil: security.debian.org is not a single host, but will hit different mirrors |
| 20:54.42 | thaicares | I thought it could be overheating, and while the laptop can get hot the wifi will go out at 109F or 180F so I doubt it... |
| 20:54.46 | pupil | bsdbeard: maybe the web is italic |
| 20:55.10 | bsdbeard | pupil, ? |
| 20:55.24 | babilen | pupil: https://www.debian.org/security/faq#mirror -- sounds like a buggy snort check, but hard to tell without further information. Which check is it and what does it check exactly? |
| 20:55.24 | eKyNoX | oO |
| 20:55.42 | pupil | babilen: so, is it posibble that i download update not from the main debian repo?? |
| 20:55.44 | thaicares | OH and rfkill has helped me figure out when I'm accidently flicking the switch off.... so I am fairly sure it isn't that! |
| 20:55.48 | bsdbeard | pupil, I disabled italic in the CSS and it still looks wrong, it's jagged and not smooth |
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| 20:56.12 | pupil | bsdbeard: sorry, do you make the web yourself?? |
| 20:56.23 | pupil | babilen: i'll check it |
| 20:56.26 | bsdbeard | pupil, No, I used the chrome developer tools thingy to disable it |
| 20:56.31 | babilen | pupil: If you get it from security.debian.org you are getting it from there. The actual mirror might be different, but you will only get signed packages anyway. |
| 20:56.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell pupil -about secure apt |
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| 20:58.18 | pupil | babilen: thanks for the info, i just want to confirm that the package is valid and safe |
| 20:58.19 | Neobenedict | never mind |
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| 20:58.40 | pupil | bsdbeard: i are you the developer of the website? |
| 20:58.48 | bsdbeard | pupil, no |
| 20:59.28 | bugzee | I need help re-clocking my Radeon gfx card to the correct rated mhz, linux only has it at 100 and I want it to go on it's full 700 |
| 21:00.01 | bugzee | playing source engine games has horrible FPS unless I do this |
| 21:00.16 | pupil | bsdbeard: sorry, could not help much further. it seems to me that the web is displaying the font in italic style |
| 21:00.18 | bugzee | I found a package called rovclock, but it says I have an invalid bios reference |
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| 21:04.30 | totte | I'm unable to ping google.com from my Xen PV guest, "charmander", dom0 is "bulbasaur", https://gist.github.com/totte/16f99d04239938e0b92a, any advice? |
| 21:04.55 | totte | I checked the bridge with tcpdump and there is traffic on it. |
| 21:05.35 | totte | "21:53:16.092730 ARP, Request who-has 5.175.233.1 tell charmander, length 28" |
| 21:05.44 | paddy | bugzee: i am not fluent with these overclocking techniques, but did you update your graphics card bios? |
| 21:06.12 | pupil | totte: can you ping to another web?? |
| 21:06.18 | bugzee | paddy: I looked up how to upgrade bios from debian but I couldn't find any answers |
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| 21:07.05 | paddy | bugzee: sorry, i mean the system bios not graphics card bios. often the bios vendors provide a boot disk |
| 21:07.34 | bugzee | this is a store-bought hp pavilion desktop |
| 21:08.15 | paddy | bugzee: i am reading this here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=34751 |
| 21:08.20 | totte | pupil: No, I get "Destination Host Unreachable": https://gist.github.com/totte/16f99d04239938e0b92a#file-charmander-L47-L52 |
| 21:08.59 | totte | dom0 can ping www.google.com just fine, as well as the gateway. |
| 21:09.18 | totte | But the guest can't ping the gateway or anything else it seems. |
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| 21:10.32 | bugzee | alright, I don't understand most of what's being said in these posts |
| 21:10.36 | bugzee | so what do I do from this? |
| 21:10.58 | bugzee | I don't know how to update bios |
| 21:11.09 | paddy | bugzee: there is a message saying something about the xserver config with dynamic clock or something like that. i would try this first |
| 21:11.52 | paddy | maybe it is just about finding the right configuration trick, without the need to do overclocking |
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| 21:13.35 | bugzee | /etc/x11/xorg.conf does not exist |
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| 21:14.50 | bugzee | but I remember configuring something like that to change my driver to "fglrx" |
| 21:14.56 | bugzee | when I first installed debian |
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| 21:15.16 | bugzee | /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I did capitalize it |
| 21:15.16 | paddy | bugzee: you can create one by: Xorg -configure |
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| 21:15.41 | bugzee | well then lemme get on irssi... |
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| 21:17.09 | bugzee | I did Xorg -configure and it said some stuff then tried to start X then segfaulted |
| 21:17.15 | bugzee | but I can still do xinit |
| 21:17.28 | bugzee | oh, and I did Xorg -configure as root |
| 21:17.32 | bugzee | and xinit as bugzee |
| 21:17.51 | centrx | Use startx to start X |
| 21:18.15 | bugzee | I thought xinit and startx were the same thing |
| 21:18.19 | paddy | bugzee: were you in single user mode? otherwise you need to manually stop the running X |
| 21:18.34 | bugzee | I did manually stop the running X |
| 21:18.41 | paddy | ah, hmmm |
| 21:18.50 | bugzee | so I could su then Xorg -configure |
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| 21:19.04 | bugzee | now I'm back in X with the awesome window manager and xchat |
| 21:19.22 | paddy | but still with no xorg.conf? |
| 21:19.48 | bugzee | no.. |
| 21:19.52 | bugzee | urgh |
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| 21:20.35 | bugzee | but I remember configuring some type of xorg configuration so I can set my driver to fglrx |
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| 21:21.34 | centrx | bugzee, Did you try startx? |
| 21:21.51 | bugzee | but startx and xinit are the same thing, I didn't think it mattered |
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| 21:22.00 | bugzee | but I'll exit x and try it I guess |
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| 21:22.48 | bugzee | okay I did startx instead of the usual xinit |
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| 21:22.53 | pipegeek | hi folks! |
| 21:22.57 | bugzee | did exactly the same thing it always does |
| 21:22.58 | bugzee | hi |
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| 21:23.07 | spectie | hey all |
| 21:23.33 | pipegeek | is there any chance that https://code.google.com/p/git-repo/ will get packaged for debian at some point (or is already there? It's hard to search for ;) ) |
| 21:23.35 | centrx | bugzee, startx is a wrapper around xinit, not identical |
| 21:23.39 | bugzee | there is still no xorg.conf |
| 21:23.40 | paddy | maybe my mistake, but is it possible the config is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d now? |
| 21:23.46 | spectie | CEnnis91, |
| 21:23.50 | spectie | centrx, |
| 21:23.51 | centrx | bugzee, Recent versions of X do not require an xorg.conf |
| 21:23.52 | thaicares | Neither ' /etc/init.d/networking restart ' NOR ' /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart ' work for resolving my wifi issue I have to shutdown and restart my computer each time! |
| 21:23.54 | spectie | they sent me back here |
| 21:24.04 | bugzee | I did see a xorg.conf.d folder |
| 21:24.11 | centrx | spectie, :) Welcome back |
| 21:24.13 | paddy | bugzee: look in there |
| 21:24.32 | spectie | so, any idea how to make an xorg.conf |
| 21:24.39 | bugzee | all that's in there is a 20-fglrx.conf |
| 21:24.39 | spectie | or at least get my problem fx |
| 21:24.41 | spectie | fixd |
| 21:24.48 | spectie | http://i.imgur.com/HWN690z.jpg |
| 21:24.52 | bugzee | oh I see the place where I configged my driver! |
| 21:24.53 | spectie | ^-- the problem |
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| 21:25.46 | paddy | yes, i would give that a try |
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| 21:27.08 | centrx | pipegeek, It does not appear to be in the repositories currently, nor an ITP or WNPP. You could open a WNPP at https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/requested |
| 21:27.10 | bugzee | alright, I'll launch steam and see if I can't play gmod at full FPS |
| 21:27.21 | centrx | pipegeek, Or https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ rather |
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| 21:27.30 | pipegeek | thanks, centrx |
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| 21:28.40 | bugzee | ahh it works! full FPS! |
| 21:28.46 | bugzee | thanks so much! |
| 21:28.51 | paddy | smiles |
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| 21:42.34 | rryoumaa | shouldn't that happen automatically? |
| 21:42.48 | rryoumaa | or do you only want those to resync? |
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| 21:45.06 | Reelax | i used to remote control my PC from laptop. i forgot what client i used :( |
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| 21:48.09 | berceanu | how can i stop udev interfering with my fstab? i want to manually mount an external HDD, but udev does it automatically despite my fstab |
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| 21:49.42 | anoob | my screen brightness keys does not work ... what information do i need to get help? |
| 21:49.50 | kyle__ | berceanu: udev does not mount it for you, nor does it putz with your fstab. |
| 21:50.17 | berceanu | i put it in my fstab |
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| 21:50.33 | berceanu | i put this line |
| 21:50.36 | berceanu | UUID=db45bc38-4339-4245-9abd-566f0c073b52 /media/usbdrive ext4 user 0 0 |
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| 21:51.26 | kyle__ | berceanu: the media directory is mostly used by whatever automounter the GUI is using, but if you have it in /etc/fstab, that should be mounted before the GUI even comes up. |
| 21:52.02 | berceanu | kyle__: no because i dont have the disk connected at all times |
| 21:52.21 | berceanu | kyle__: so when i plug it in, it gets automounted |
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| 21:52.29 | berceanu | kyle__: which is not what i want |
| 21:53.31 | kyle__ | berceanu: You need to configure that in the automounter. Not udev. |
| 21:54.14 | berceanu | kyle__: ok :) so how do i do that? |
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| 21:55.48 | kyle__ | berceanu: I'm not actually sure what deb 7 uses for that... I've never had to deal with it. |
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| 21:56.34 | berceanu | does anyone else know perhaps? |
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| 21:59.49 | dondelelcaro | berceanu: you want user,noauto |
| 21:59.53 | dondelelcaro | berceanu: not just user |
| 21:59.59 | dondelelcaro | berceanu: otherwise it will be mounted on boot |
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| 22:00.22 | berceanu | dondelelcaro: i tried that too |
| 22:00.42 | dondelelcaro | berceanu: now, if it's getting automatically mounted when you plug it in, that's something else |
| 22:01.40 | paddy | berceanu: do you use a desktop environment like gnome? |
| 22:01.41 | berceanu | dondelelcaro: yes, so that is what i want to solve |
| 22:01.52 | berceanu | paddy: i use gnome yes |
| 22:02.09 | Reelax | on debian, i used to remote control my desktop from laptop. i dont think it was vnc, but it was related to ssh. |
| 22:02.14 | berceanu | dondelelcaro: and noauto doesnt solve it |
| 22:02.37 | paddy | berceanu: have a look at this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/disable-linux-unix-gnome-automounting/ |
| 22:02.48 | Reelax | anyone has any idea? i wanna control my current session. looks like this is not easy in vnc. |
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| 22:03.26 | dondelelcaro | berceanu: noauto is specific to boot, and has nothing to do with automatically mounting from gnome |
| 22:03.35 | berceanu | dondelelcaro: ok i see |
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| 22:03.49 | HD|Laptop | hi |
| 22:04.08 | HD|Laptop | how is it possible that a dual-core server with ~20% CPU load has a load average of 10.5? |
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| 22:04.15 | berceanu | dondelelcaro: btw, do i have to create the directory /media/usbdrive myself? |
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| 22:04.41 | HD|Laptop | I already renice'd that bitcoin-qt process to 19, but this didnt help for the load average |
| 22:04.41 | abrotman | HD|Laptop: Might that load be related to a different system problem? |
| 22:04.52 | Brigo | HD|Laptop, load average not measures the cpu load, measures the system load. May be the disk or irqs or anything else |
| 22:04.59 | HD|Laptop | abrotman: you mean RAM consumption? I thought it only was CPU |
| 22:05.11 | dondelelcaro | HD|Laptop: load average just refers to how many processes would like to be running; that's it |
| 22:05.13 | HD|Laptop | hmm disk or crypto may well be possible, same for net |
| 22:05.26 | berceanu | paddy: ty but this disables automounting for all devices in gnome whereas i want to disable it specifically for this external HDD |
| 22:05.32 | dondelelcaro | HD|Laptop: you'd have to actually look at something like htop or similar to see what is going on |
| 22:05.39 | paddy | berceanu: ah, hmmm |
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| 22:06.06 | HD|Laptop | hmm iotop tells me 99% for bitcoin-qt |
| 22:06.09 | kyle__ | HD|Laptop: load average in linux (I think...) is an average of how many processes are waiting to execute. |
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| 22:06.27 | Reelax | i used to use openssh-server. Should i use vnc ? |
| 22:06.30 | HD|Laptop | any way to reduce the amount of IO available to it? |
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| 22:06.46 | kyle__ | HD|Laptop: So if you're swapping, it goes up, even if it's not computationally intensive, and if your IO is saturated, it also goes up. |
| 22:06.58 | kyle__ | HD|Laptop: On a per process basis? |
| 22:06.59 | kyle__ | Humm. |
| 22:07.08 | kyle__ | There probably is some way, but I don't know it. |
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| 22:07.59 | dimitry7 | Hi Guys! Good day / night / afternoon. I have a question here: I have a tar file in one server, then I sync it with rsync to another server. When I do md5sum both files in each server te hashes are diferent. Why? Does it mean my file is corrupt? |
| 22:08.01 | Brigo | HD|Laptop, man uptime about load average |
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| 22:09.47 | AmbiguousOutlier | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:10.09 | AmbiguousOutlier | ls -rla >> file doesn't work |
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| 22:11.23 | centrx | AmbiguousOutlier, How does it not work> |
| 22:11.28 | dondelelcaro | AmbiguousOutlier: you want ls -Rla > foofile; |
| 22:11.51 | dondelelcaro | AmbiguousOutlier: unix options are often case-significant |
| 22:12.37 | AmbiguousOutlier | dondelelcaro: very good, thank you |
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| 22:13.50 | paddy | dondelelcaro: is there a chance to merge dpkg's patches with the blootbot/infobot archive? |
| 22:13.59 | totte | My Xen PV guest "charmander" can only ping the dom0 "bulbasaur", for everything else I get 100 % packet loss. Here are my /etc/sysctl.conf, /etc/network/interfaces, ifconfig and ping outputs: https://gist.github.com/totte/c26cd2d5b621c1682f02, any ideas? |
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| 22:15.13 | dondelelcaro | paddy: they're already there |
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| 22:20.03 | paddy | not so smart to look at the modification date of the directory :( |
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| 22:23.20 | dondelelcaro | or at least, they should be in the dpkg branch |
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| 22:26.15 | HD|Laptop | 1/j #mysql |
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| 22:27.24 | paddy | dondelelcaro: i found it now, thanks! |
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| 22:28.23 | vampi-the-frog | hi guys. what parameters should I pass to badblocks for the most thorough check of a 20GB IDE hdd? |
| 22:28.42 | vampi-the-frog | I know it has bad blocks, that's why I've only used the first half of it till now |
| 22:29.01 | frostschutz | vampi-the-frog, if you know it has bad blocks, you don't have to run badblocks anymore |
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| 22:30.05 | kyle__ | vampi-the-frog: Is there a particular reason you're using a known bad drive on an antequated interface, that's dwarfed by a $20 card people put in their cameras? |
| 22:30.27 | vampi-the-frog | cause I want to reuse the drive for a 486 mobo I'm using to make a sound synth :> |
| 22:30.41 | kyle__ | vampi-the-frog: Awesome answer :) |
| 22:30.53 | musca | just don't trust that drive. |
| 22:30.54 | vampi-the-frog | ^^ |
| 22:31.15 | kyle__ | vampi-the-frog: you can just pass -c to mkfs.ext3 when you make the filesystem, it will check for bad blocks and avoid them. THough it's still risky. |
| 22:31.25 | vampi-the-frog | what's the leftover risk? |
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| 22:31.56 | kyle__ | bad blocks are like cancer. Once you have one, you're likely to get a lot more. |
| 22:32.17 | vampi-the-frog | drive chemo? |
| 22:32.35 | musca | drives have a defect managment to reduce support costs. they are delivered with spare blocks that are used to replaced failed blocks. |
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| 22:33.04 | musca | yours has already eaten all spare blocks. |
| 22:34.13 | abrotman | tries to work out how "systemd" has seemingly broken parts of his system .. |
| 22:34.31 | kRush | ehehehe |
| 22:34.36 | centrx | blames CTTE |
| 22:34.51 | kyle__ | abrotman: Pottering hates you. You personally. And me. That's why it breaks things for us. |
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| 22:35.04 | abrotman | I mean, sound is gone .. X is really slow. n-m is angry ... |
| 22:35.28 | abrotman | kyle__: doubtful .. |
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| 22:35.43 | kyle__ | Hehe. That's my working theory. And I'm sticking with it. |
| 22:38.44 | hbqsdjb | hi |
| 22:38.55 | vampi-the-frog | musca: is info about the spare blocks in the SMART info? |
| 22:39.24 | Reelax | someone help ! When i connect to SSH server, it asks for ssh password. When i enter the user password it dont work. |
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| 22:39.53 | hbqsdjb | it's asking for a pgp key, no? |
| 22:39.54 | vampi-the-frog | Reelax: be sure to specify the user name when connecting |
| 22:40.27 | vampi-the-frog | Reelax: it defaults to the current user on the client machine |
| 22:40.27 | Reelax | case sensitive , correct |
| 22:40.28 | hbqsdjb | guys, what are the main differences between all the irc clients? |
| 22:40.39 | Reelax | let me try it |
| 22:40.45 | hbqsdjb | like xchat, ircII... |
| 22:40.51 | Reelax | vampi-the-frog: can it also default to current session ? |
| 22:40.52 | vampi-the-frog | hbqsdjb: you can't possibly expect a short answer besides maybe 'try them all out and see' |
| 22:40.54 | musca | vampi-the-frog: somewhere yes, but it's obviously not easy to read and understand smart info |
| 22:40.57 | steven7731 | Am I correct that all the automatic startup scripts etc, which start the X server, boil down to starting the xinit executable which starts the X-server? |
| 22:41.02 | vampi-the-frog | Reelax: it doesn't matter, as long as you specify it |
| 22:41.07 | vampi-the-frog | Reelax: and I don't know |
| 22:41.10 | Reelax | ok |
| 22:41.22 | Reelax | vampi-the-frog: hmm, on the server or client ? |
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| 22:41.39 | hbqsdjb | vampi-the-frog, who's talking about a short answer? :) |
| 22:41.59 | kyle__ | vampi-the-frog: what does smartctl tell youa bout that drive? |
| 22:42.01 | vampi-the-frog | hbqsdjb: try the popular ones |
| 22:42.02 | hbqsdjb | but, i mean, are all the clients REALLY different or it's just a matter of taste? |
| 22:42.14 | abrotman | I mean, this is awful .. |
| 22:42.18 | vampi-the-frog | hbqsdjb: both |
| 22:42.27 | vampi-the-frog | kyle__: hm let me check |
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| 22:43.10 | kyle__ | grumbles. Dell DRAC unresponsive, and the one day he forgets his keys, security actually locks the door. |
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| 22:44.34 | musca | Reelax: get more info with ssh -v |
| 22:45.10 | musca | Reelax: or even ssh -v -v |
| 22:45.11 | vampi-the-frog | t |
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| 22:46.32 | vampi-the-frog | kyle__: I can't pastebin cause chrome is crashing :< |
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| 22:46.52 | Reelax | musca: all i wanna do , is drop to current session when connected and im not so good with it. |
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| 22:46.56 | vampi-the-frog | kyle__: SMART support is: Unavailable - Packet Interface Devices [this device: Reduced block command (simplified disk)] don't support ATA SMART |
| 22:47.06 | MelRay | I just installed quassel irc using the software manager. I selected only the KDE4 version. When I open it there is a prompt to setup core. All I want is to use it as a irc client...not core. What else do I need to install to allow this? |
| 22:47.20 | kyle__ | vampi-the-frog: Ouch. Also, is chome running on the same system that the drive is on? Because it's usually pretty reliable... |
| 22:47.22 | Reelax | musca: google doesnt have a quick answer. |
| 22:47.32 | vampi-the-frog | kyle__: what do you mean? |
| 22:47.50 | kyle__ | vampi-the-frog: Chrome doesn't tend to crash on me is what I mean. |
| 22:48.03 | vampi-the-frog | i know, right? |
| 22:48.03 | kom | I have an issue with re-signing a package I built locally on my sandbox and I wish to sign it with the package repository key... http://paste.debian.net/87394/ |
| 22:48.07 | kyle__ | anyway, no SMART support is strange. |
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| 22:49.52 | kRush | maybe disabled in bios? |
| 22:50.00 | musca | Reelax: what did you google for? "ssh dont work" ? |
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| 22:51.04 | Reelax | musca: no :) ssh -v , ssh v parameter |
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| 22:51.30 | MelRay | Reelax: Why not man ssh? |
| 22:51.31 | musca | Reelax: please produce a more specific description by using ssh -v |
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| 22:51.54 | musca | -v is verbosity |
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| 22:52.09 | Reelax | musca: you told me that :) |
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| 22:53.10 | nonconvergent | Anything special I need to do to add a new group for my username? I changed a username successfully but he's still attached to the old user's username group. |
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| 22:53.16 | musca | Reelax: you can use http://paste.debian.net to show us the output, if you like to |
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| 22:54.45 | mynam | Evening everyone. |
| 22:54.57 | mynam | Or morning/afternoon depending on where you are. |
| 22:55.09 | centrx | lives on the Moon. |
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| 22:55.53 | vampi-the-frog | lol crashed |
| 22:55.58 | Sander^home | How do I unpack an .deb package to see whats inside it? |
| 22:56.04 | abrotman | Sander^home: ar x foo.deb |
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| 22:56.25 | vampi-the-frog | Sander^home: also, mc can open them if you just type enter |
| 22:56.27 | vampi-the-frog | press* |
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| 22:57.26 | kom | I want to resign a .deb with my local repo key but it will not let me insert a passphrase and says: gpg: cancelled by user gpg: no default secret key: bad passphrase instead of a prompt for the passphrase... |
| 22:58.00 | nonconvergent | What's the diff between a --system group and the default with addgroup? |
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| 23:03.10 | vampi-the-frog | kyle__: ah, I was out of space :> |
| 23:03.19 | kyle__ | hehe |
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| 23:04.27 | kom | looks like unset GPG_AGENT_INFO did it |
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| 23:05.38 | nonconvergent | Is there anything special I have to do to add a new user group? |
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| 23:06.45 | kyle__ | nonconvergent: What do you mean? |
| 23:07.02 | kyle__ | nonconvergent: You just add a group, assign users to it. Nothing particularly fancy needs to happen. |
| 23:07.04 | nonconvergent | I mean anything past addgroup new_group |
| 23:07.14 | nonconvergent | kyle__: even for username groups? |
| 23:07.15 | kyle__ | That's it. |
| 23:07.23 | kyle__ | what do you mean username groups? |
| 23:07.48 | nonconvergent | You know how you're in a group named the same as your username, in addition to others? |
| 23:08.09 | kyle__ | Yes. |
| 23:08.29 | nonconvergent | Example, adduser bob would create user bob, group bob, and add user bob to group bob |
| 23:08.52 | kyle__ | Those groups that are associated with the username are automatically created IIRC. Creating them on your own doesn't really hurt anything, although you'll have to manually usermod the user if you wnat that to be their primary group. |
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| 23:09.01 | nonconvergent | Yeah, well, that doesn't happen if you just rename an existing user and move his home, something I'd over looked. |
| 23:09.18 | nonconvergent | So my bob is not in bob but is it name_before_bob |
| 23:09.30 | kyle__ | Ahh. |
| 23:09.43 | nonconvergent | And I'm wondering if I needed to do anything special. |
| 23:10.12 | nonconvergent | Particularly because a good half of the documentation on adduser and addgroup concerns a --system option that I don't understand the need for. |
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| 23:10.47 | kyle__ | Y ou don't need to do anything special. |
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| 23:12.07 | nonconvergent | Mkay. Well, I added my user to the new group...but I'm not currently at home so I can't reboot. I'm connected through ssh. |
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| 23:12.26 | kyle__ | Night all |
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| 23:13.22 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: you don't have to reboot if you add yourself to a group (or add users, or anything like that) |
| 23:13.39 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: in fact, in general, the only reason you have to reboot a Debian system is if you upgrade kernels |
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| 23:19.58 | musca | Reelax: at what point did we loose you? |
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| 23:20.29 | spectie | hey all! |
| 23:20.42 | spectie | i asked this question a few hours ago |
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| 23:21.26 | nonconvergent | dondelelcaro: I don't see my user in the group I added him to though. |
| 23:21.38 | Brigo | spectie, still problems? :) |
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| 23:22.15 | steven7731 | I know that it's possible to check dependencies for a package with "apt-cache depends XXX". However, is it possible to check, for which packages this XXX is a dependency? |
| 23:22.27 | Reelax | musca : can i have a remote desktop connection if the server has openssh-server install , but not xrdp ? |
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| 23:23.36 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: it won't show until you log out and back in, or use chgrp |
| 23:24.04 | Brigo | steven7731, apt-cache rdepends <package> may be? :-) |
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| 23:24.22 | folial | hi! I've got a USB stick: when connected, it acts like 2 devices, 1 mass storage, 1 scsi cdrom (/dev/sr0), which is readonly: there is a way to drop the cdrom device and gain mass storage space? |
| 23:24.37 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: but you can check using getent group $(id -u); or similar |
| 23:24.46 | Brigo | Reelax, yes you can, and without ssh too. Xorg can relay the desktop natively. |
| 23:24.51 | nonconvergent | dondelelcaro: Apparently closing the ssh tunnel and opening a new one doesn't count as logout. |
| 23:25.00 | steven7731 | Brigo, I was not aware of this. Thanks! |
| 23:25.10 | Brigo | np :) |
| 23:25.11 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: in general it should, actually |
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| 23:26.12 | spectie | if i set noaccel "true" in xorg.conf |
| 23:26.16 | spectie | the problem goes away |
| 23:26.17 | Brigo | folial, not an easy thing ... |
| 23:26.18 | spectie | but the machine is horribly slow |
| 23:26.42 | Reelax | Brigo: i installed openssh-server on server. Remmina on client. When connect to the server it asks for SSH password. I enter regular username's password it dont work. i did this a few weeks ago without any problem. |
| 23:26.47 | Brigo | spectie, can you repeat the problem? |
| 23:27.02 | spectie | <spectie> http://i.imgur.com/HWN690z.jpg |
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| 23:27.10 | spectie | a picture says a thousand words ;) |
| 23:27.24 | Brigo | Reelax, sorry, i know nothing about remmian. |
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| 23:27.45 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: but if you're unsure, newgrp; should also do it |
| 23:27.51 | Brigo | spectie, yes. :) |
| 23:27.53 | folial | Brigo, thanks... not easy, but is there a way? |
| 23:28.15 | folial | could anyone point me towards it? |
| 23:28.39 | Brigo | folial if you can format both partitions then you can mount a raid or a lvm or a md, but it will be not portable to windows or so. |
| 23:29.00 | folial | I cannot format sr partition... |
| 23:29.08 | nonconvergent | dondelelcaro: It didn't. |
| 23:29.09 | Reelax | Brigo: it's a nice SSH / RDP / VNC client. |
| 23:29.18 | folial | cause is it like a cdrom |
| 23:29.26 | Brigo | folial, so there is no way ... |
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| 23:29.52 | folial | ok, Brigo, thank you!! many thanks |
| 23:30.00 | Brigo | folial, np :) |
| 23:30.16 | Brigo | Reelax, not so good ... :) |
| 23:30.31 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: then you're not in that group |
| 23:30.41 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: adduser youruser thegroupyouwant; will add you to that group |
| 23:30.44 | Brigo | spectie, there are any errors in Xorg? |
| 23:30.49 | nonconvergent | dondelelcaro: I did. |
| 23:30.53 | spectie | not that i can tell |
| 23:31.07 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: and what does getent group thegroupyouwant; return? |
| 23:31.09 | spectie | should i show my Xorg log ? |
| 23:31.29 | nonconvergent | neuromancer:x:1003:neuromancer |
| 23:31.35 | Brigo | spectie, the only thing a can think about is to try with some driver configuration -like accel- or change drivers if you could ... |
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| 23:31.51 | spectie | Brigo, if i set 'noaccel' to 'true' then it works normally |
| 23:31.54 | spectie | but is really slow |
| 23:31.56 | Brigo | spectie, if there are no errors no :) |
| 23:32.13 | nonconvergent | dondelelcaro: neuromancer:x:1003:neuromancer |
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| 23:32.35 | Brigo | spectie, but it could be there are more sets than can help if you are lucky ... |
| 23:32.37 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: ok, so the neuromancer user is in the neuromancer group. |
| 23:32.38 | spectie | and if i set "AccelMethod" to "uxa" or "sna" |
| 23:32.45 | spectie | it gives the same problem |
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| 23:33.22 | nonconvergent | dondelelcaro: Yeah, but I can't logout. |
| 23:34.20 | dondelelcaro | nonconvergent: newgrp neuromancer; will put you in that group |
| 23:34.54 | nonconvergent | dondelelcaro: Worked. |
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| 23:36.57 | Brigo | Reelax, did you look at logs? |
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| 23:41.20 | spectie | hmm, is there a forum or mailing list or something for problems with X in debian ? |
| 23:42.26 | Brigo | spectie, i dont think so, but you can ask in user mailing list. |
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| 23:42.37 | Brigo | did you ask google? |
| 23:43.03 | spectie | well, there is xstrikeforce |
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| 23:45.21 | Dirkson | Hey all. "apt-get install notmuch-vim/sid" wants to pull in "libcups2" and "libwayland-client0", among other crazy choices. HOWEVER, "apt-rdepends notmuch-vim" doesn't mention either of these packages in the slightest. What's going on? |
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| 23:48.48 | kdog | Dirkson: I don't pull sid packages, but is your rdepends looking at the dependencies in the sid notmuch-vim package? |
| 23:48.54 | spectie | ok |
| 23:49.00 | spectie | i'll just use the fbdev driver for now |
| 23:49.05 | spectie | maybe at some point it will be fixed |
| 23:49.12 | spectie | now, next problem... right clicking |
| 23:49.26 | spectie | so i can get keyboard switcher in my panel |
| 23:49.31 | Dirkson | kdog: If I try to apt-get install notmuch-vim directly, same results. The sid's just a red herring I accidentally left in there, sorry : ) |
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| 23:52.37 | Brigo | Its time for me to go, sorry, and bye |
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