| 00:00.21 | Blakney | SynrG No, not debian-7.4.0-amd64 - I'm talking about debian-7.3.0-amd64 |
| 00:00.21 | SynrG | try it and see? :) |
| 00:00.59 | SynrG | guh. ok |
| 00:01.13 | themill | ISO images for the first 3 DVDs and first 8 CDs are produced (at most, varies by arch iirc) |
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| 00:02.04 | SynrG | wouldn't it be a reasonable guess that in the point releases, which packages go on which DVDs wouldn't change by much? |
| 00:02.28 | SynrG | so if in 7.4 it is on dvd-5, on 7.3 i wouldn't expect it to be in the first 3 |
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| 00:03.37 | the8thbit | Hm, so I associated a public key with my ssh server last night |
| 00:03.41 | the8thbit | and it was working fie |
| 00:03.42 | the8thbit | fine |
| 00:03.56 | the8thbit | but now when I try to connect I get Permission denied (publickey) |
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| 00:05.07 | the8thbit | the only change I've made is that I've rebooted both machines since |
| 00:05.17 | Blakney | SynrG Ok, thanks for the hints. It seems the package is there from the latest release, not in the previous version 7.3.0 |
| 00:06.36 | the8thbit | Is there a way for me to see all my pub keys and swap them in when trying to SSH? |
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| 00:14.08 | the8thbit | nevermind, I didnt specify the user |
| 00:14.31 | the8thbit | phew, I didn't want to deal with setting up the monitor and keyboard for the remote machine again |
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| 00:54.44 | iam | i'm trying to install debian, but there are a ton of links, which one do i use? i'm looking for a 32-bit OS that i can boot from a usb |
| 00:55.29 | centrx | iam, Do you want a comprehensive CD/DVD set, or start with small CD and install from Internet (net install) |
| 00:55.56 | iam | centrx, what is the difference, i have never heard of either of those before |
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| 00:56.25 | centrx | iam, With the netinstall, you install a minimal base system from CD/USB and then download the rest of the packages from the Internet |
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| 00:56.47 | iam | centrx, how minimal |
| 00:57.03 | centrx | iam, With a CD/DVD (or CD/DVD set), you download complete ISOs |
| 00:57.08 | iam | oh, ok |
| 00:57.20 | centrx | iam, Net install is very minimal, sufficient to download the rest from the Internet |
| 00:57.35 | centrx | iam, I don't know how to do the USB install, some people seem to have problems with it |
| 00:58.08 | iam | centrx, ok, thank you for clarifying that |
| 00:58.19 | iam | will now search how to boot debian from a usb |
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| 00:59.30 | zinx | you can just write it to the stick these days (as a filesystem, not as a file) |
| 00:59.32 | zinx | well |
| 00:59.39 | zinx | as a disk image i guess since it has the MBR too |
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| 01:00.41 | houn | Requesting Advice: I installed Wheezy, then upped to Jessie, and keep getting weirdness, like broken gdm3, missing network config, etc. Should I keep patching up and fixing the current install, or wipe it and use the testing installer to go straight to Jessie? |
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| 01:01.24 | SynrG | there is no public release of the testing installer |
| 01:01.35 | SynrG | there are builds for developers, but that is all. |
| 01:01.38 | centrx | houn, You installed Jessie the right way. The testing installer is for testing the installer, (can be unreliable for installing testing) |
| 01:01.56 | centrx | houn, Frankly, I would stay away from Gnome altogether |
| 01:02.01 | SynrG | in any case, testing is expected to be a rough ride. if you don't like that, run stable |
| 01:02.26 | SynrG | why did you want to run testing anyway? |
| 01:02.38 | houn | What's the default networking package in Jessie? NetworkManager? |
| 01:02.49 | zinx | very bad idea to use testing |
| 01:02.52 | houn | SynrG: Honestly? Wheezy was one of my least favorite characters. |
| 01:02.58 | houn | >.> |
| 01:03.05 | SynrG | zinx: no. |
| 01:03.09 | zinx | even sid is better than testing tbqh |
| 01:03.15 | SynrG | shrugs |
| 01:03.33 | centrx | zinx, Why do you say that? |
| 01:04.17 | SynrG | there are valid reasons to run testing. i was just trying to determine houn's needs |
| 01:04.37 | zinx | there are, but they all involve actually volnuntarily testing debian. |
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| 01:04.45 | SynrG | yes |
| 01:04.47 | zinx | rather than just using it for the shiny new stuff. |
| 01:04.53 | SynrG | exactly |
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| 01:05.00 | centrx | houn, You could try wicd |
| 01:05.13 | centrx | zinx, Not sure what you mean. Testing helps the user avoid more bugs |
| 01:05.24 | zinx | centrx: .. how? |
| 01:05.27 | houn | Well, I'm not sure why I lost networking. |
| 01:05.37 | houn | But the config is gone. |
| 01:05.46 | zinx | centrx: that might be the theory, but in practice it really doesn't seem to :) |
| 01:06.34 | jeffno | the problem with testing is that the bugs you do run into tend to get stuck, whereas the fix in sitting in unstable |
| 01:06.34 | houn | Bah, I'll just go manually re-create /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 01:06.37 | zinx | centrx: my major issue with normal people (not testing debian) running testing is it takes two days or more for security fixes to propagate. |
| 01:06.47 | zinx | centrx: and what jeffno said |
| 01:07.13 | centrx | zinx, The different is significant. Packages are delayed before migrating to testing and packages with reported RC bugs will not migrate there. |
| 01:07.23 | centrx | jeffno, Then you just upgrade to the unstable version of that package if you like |
| 01:07.36 | jeffno | centrx, I tried that, and it runs into trouble |
| 01:07.38 | zinx | centrx: exactly. |
| 01:07.41 | centrx | Again, using testing does warrant having Debian knowledge. |
| 01:07.42 | houn | Or, I could just go back to Wheezy. |
| 01:08.11 | centrx | houn, I think you'll be better off using Testing if you don't use Gnome (gdm) |
| 01:08.13 | jeffno | I went from testing to unstable and have been quite pleased |
| 01:08.20 | centrx | houn, Though if you no real reason for using Testing, you might as well use Stable |
| 01:08.31 | houn | centrx: Oh, I already switched to lightdm and xfce. |
| 01:09.10 | houn | I let gnome install out of curiousity. Found I didn't care for gnome3. |
| 01:09.12 | houn | *shrug* |
| 01:09.16 | houn | It's gone now. |
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| 01:13.25 | houn | Eh, forget it, I'll just reinstall wheezy. |
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| 01:34.02 | kdog | Anyone using banshee on jessie and getting this error "Object reference not set to an instance of an object"? |
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| 01:35.23 | kdog | Some songs play, others throw that error. |
| 01:35.35 | atannus | Hi. I just made the move to Jessie and it seems my sites-enabled are being ignored. |
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| 01:36.28 | houn | Anyone have a good reference for partition sizes on install? I'd like to split /home into a separate partition, but unsure how much / will need |
| 01:36.53 | atannus | There are no messages in the error log, server restarts with no errors. |
| 01:37.01 | atannus | What config am I missing? |
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| 01:38.36 | atannus | houn, are you going for minimum possible? |
| 01:38.50 | kdog | houn: over the years I've tried all different schemes for different purposes. For my laptop I've just gone with / at 10Gb and the rest as /home. |
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| 01:39.26 | houn | kdog: It's a VM, I gave ita 10G drive. 8/2 split? |
| 01:39.39 | houn | Home honestly shouldn't get very big |
| 01:39.40 | themill | houn: this entirely depends on how much you want to install and whether you're going to use locations like /var/lib for VMs or /srv for lots of stuff |
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| 01:40.05 | houn | themill: No, the host is a Win7 box, this will be a debian guest. |
| 01:40.13 | themill | houn: I rarely see the point of having any partitioning scheme in a VM at all let alone one that size |
| 01:40.25 | kdog | I renamed the banshee db file and told banshee to rescan the library and I'm back. I love settings in dot file directories :-) |
| 01:40.31 | houn | So I can preserve /home across installs easier. |
| 01:40.54 | BackEndCoder | ok |
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| 01:41.36 | BackEndCoder | my dual boot isn't working cause its hanging on a nfs mount |
| 01:41.57 | BackEndCoder | i have tried to get it booting in single user mode |
| 01:41.58 | kdog | houn: I agree with themill for VMs |
| 01:41.59 | BackEndCoder | but same problem |
| 01:42.21 | atannus | Was there a config change in apache2? |
| 01:42.35 | BackEndCoder | i am running a vm on my windows box to try and mount the lvm partition |
| 01:42.41 | themill | atannus: you might like to be a bit more specific |
| 01:42.46 | BackEndCoder | but its telling me i have no volume groups |
| 01:42.47 | kdog | BackEndCoder: what are you loading as an nfs mount? |
| 01:43.07 | BackEndCoder | i would assume its the windows side of the partitioned drive |
| 01:43.18 | atannus | themill, I moved from wheezy to jessie, and my apache2 config no longer works. |
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| 01:43.35 | BackEndCoder | but i am unable to edit the debian side at this time due to the hang |
| 01:43.44 | themill | atannus: yes there are changes between 2.2 and 2.4 and they are documented in README.Debian. |
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| 01:43.57 | BackEndCoder | it is caused by dhcp and network interfaces waiting for other things |
| 01:44.22 | BackEndCoder | if i am able to mount my lvm into this vm |
| 01:44.35 | BackEndCoder | i should beable to edit the network/interfaces file |
| 01:44.38 | BackEndCoder | and stop this from happening |
| 01:44.51 | BackEndCoder | but mounting the lvm has become a problem |
| 01:45.04 | BackEndCoder | all google tells me is pvs will return what i want |
| 01:45.06 | BackEndCoder | but it doesn't |
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| 01:45.56 | BackEndCoder | i will boot the vm and show you my fdisk -l and maybe one of you nice people can take me thu to the next stage |
| 01:46.38 | BackEndCoder | i must have missed something really simple, as these google tutorials don't mention my error at all, they all assume i will see a volume group list output |
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| 01:49.28 | peterrooney | are you trying to mount /usr as nfs volume? |
| 01:50.25 | BackEndCoder | i am not trying to mount anything at this stage |
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| 01:50.48 | BackEndCoder | the linux machine on the dual boot is an unknown issue with mounting or otherwise |
| 01:50.50 | BackEndCoder | http://paste.debian.net/87965/ |
| 01:50.51 | atannus | themill, it seems files must end in .conf |
| 01:51.00 | BackEndCoder | thats my fdisk -l paste |
| 01:51.27 | BackEndCoder | the sdb is a .vmdk file that represents the whole phyical drive inside the laptop |
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| 01:52.16 | BackEndCoder | as soon as i can mount this lvm, i should beable to edit what i need and allow linux to boot as intended |
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| 01:53.50 | jab3z | hi. how do I get the current path in debian? |
| 01:53.56 | centrx | pwd |
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| 01:54.17 | jab3z | thx |
| 01:54.27 | zykotick9 | jab3z: or "echo $PATH" depending on what you mean... |
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| 01:55.28 | jab3z | zykotick9: the appache server is not finding my settings file. I'm pointing it to the path got with pwd |
| 01:56.22 | zykotick9 | jab3z: i'm not really sure what you are doing, BUT i'd suggest using full paths (starting from /) regardless... |
| 01:57.50 | BackEndCoder | so just to iterate the issue again. http://paste.debian.net/87965/ |
| 01:57.51 | BackEndCoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.11 | BackEndCoder | however i get No Volume Groups found with well known lvm commands |
| 01:58.20 | jab3z | zykotick9: ok |
| 01:59.27 | zykotick9 | jab3z: fyi, it was centrx's PATH, and not my $PATH that you where talking about |
| 02:00.19 | jab3z | zykotick9: What do you mean? echo $PATH is giving my something completely wrong |
| 02:00.29 | zykotick9 | jab3z: i agree |
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| 02:02.05 | towski_ | how come bash commands that have failing exit codes aren't going into my bash history |
| 02:03.07 | zykotick9 | towski_: you're starting them with a space? <- probably NOT real answer. |
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| 02:05.24 | Psi-Jack | I'm having an issue with Debian 7.4's ucarp setup. I have ucarp setup via /etc/network/interfaces with a eth0 with the ucarp-* config items, and eth0:carp for the VIP it should handle, but both ucarp processes go into MASTER mode. 1 should be MASTER, the other should be BACKUP. |
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| 02:06.02 | towski_ | zykotick9: no any and my HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth |
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| 02:07.10 | zykotick9 | towski_: sorry, i have 0 idea on real answer. was just providing my only explanation. |
| 02:07.15 | towski_ | ugh google only shows me the opposite, people not wanting commands in the history |
| 02:11.36 | zykotick9 | towski_: [sidenote] even though google may be a major sponsor of LP, i'd personally recommend using duckduckgo or startpage as alternative search to google YMMV |
| 02:12.24 | towski_ | I suppose I should give duckduckgo a try |
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| 02:13.31 | zykotick9 | towski_: "quack quack" as a friend of mine calls it ;) |
| 02:13.41 | quackgyver | Quack |
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| 02:15.07 | LunaLovegood | Is there a virtual package that depends on all the libxcb -dev packages? I know I can just apt-get them all, but I'd rather have only one package marked as manually installed |
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| 02:15.56 | zykotick9 | LunaLovegood: i'd check "apt-cache depends foo" and/or "apt-cache rdepends foo" |
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| 02:17.37 | zykotick9 | LunaLovegood: but, not knowing anything about the packages your talking about... probably not... but check with above. best of luck. |
| 02:18.11 | LunaLovegood | oh well there aren't any. I guess i can just generate one with equivs. |
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| 02:21.02 | zykotick9 | LunaLovegood: i'm a big fan of personalized post-install scripts, YMMV |
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| 02:49.19 | asterismo | hi guys |
| 02:49.31 | BackEndCoder | hi |
| 02:49.53 | asterismo | is there any way to do power managment in an XFCE debian without starting x server? |
| 02:50.27 | asterismo | if i run xfce4-power-manager in a tty terminal (without X) is complains about not having an open display |
| 02:50.44 | asterismo | so i have no brigthness control or suspend functions... |
| 02:50.59 | asterismo | any ideas? |
| 02:52.23 | houn | asterismo: xfce is, inherently, a desktop environment. All it's tools are graphical, and need X. |
| 02:52.23 | BackEndCoder | its just config settings |
| 02:52.37 | houn | You're probably going to need to find a different tool. |
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| 02:52.48 | BackEndCoder | you could technicly load x, set what you need |
| 02:52.51 | BackEndCoder | then don't load it again |
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| 03:00.47 | asterismo | houn, is there another power manager daemon that i can execute in a pure tty terminal text mode? |
| 03:01.00 | asterismo | maybe an independent daemon |
| 03:01.03 | asterismo | i dunno |
| 03:02.17 | houn | asterismo: I'm pretty new to debian myself; what did you want? Battery status and brightness? |
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| 03:05.23 | asterismo | houn, yeah that would do |
| 03:05.47 | houn | google says: acpi -b |
| 03:05.51 | houn | for the battery level. |
| 03:06.00 | houn | (Not running a laptop, can't check myself) |
| 03:06.06 | asterismo | houn, great |
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| 03:06.34 | asterismo | houn, and for brightness? |
| 03:06.45 | asterismo | acpi -b works! |
| 03:06.51 | houn | Looks like mayber apt-get install xblacklight |
| 03:06.52 | asterismo | it displays the percentage |
| 03:07.17 | houn | No, that's an x util |
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| 03:08.42 | asterismo | xbacklight is a simple command-line utility to set the backlight level using the RandR 1.2 Backlight output property. |
| 03:08.53 | asterismo | that is what it says in description |
| 03:09.01 | asterismo | you say it's for X? |
| 03:09.15 | houn | I'm not sure. |
| 03:09.19 | houn | Give it a shot? |
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| 03:14.59 | houn | asterismo: dumb question, but did you try your laptop's brightness keys? |
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| 03:17.22 | LunaLovegood | under your /sys folder there might be a file that controls brightness |
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| 03:18.37 | asterismo | houn, yes and they don't work, they are managed by the power manager i think |
| 03:19.44 | asterismo | it does not work because of the xrandr |
| 03:21.58 | houn | asterismo: I'm seeing stuff about manually adjussting values in /proc or /sys, depending. Might be worth poking around in /proc/acpi |
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| 03:22.15 | asterismo | yes i'm seeing |
| 03:22.18 | houn | asterismo: Why no X? |
| 03:22.26 | houn | If I might ask |
| 03:23.38 | asterismo | i use mutt mail client and many other terminal apps |
| 03:23.56 | asterismo | so i have X started and not using it |
| 03:24.33 | asterismo | i use it when i have so navigate in the web, using the browser or do image processing, what i do for work |
| 03:24.57 | asterismo | but it saves a lot of battery just to use a tty instead of the whole X server |
| 03:25.07 | houn | That's fair. |
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| 03:25.22 | houn | I'm too big a fan of pretties I guess. :> |
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| 03:27.30 | houn | On that note... I need to find some good fonts. |
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| 03:29.47 | littlebear | houn: google web font? |
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| 03:34.42 | asterismo | houn, found it |
| 03:34.47 | asterismo | su - |
| 03:34.48 | asterismo | then |
| 03:35.14 | asterismo | echo 30 > /sys/class/backlight/psb-bl/brightness |
| 03:35.22 | asterismo | or echo 10 fo 10% |
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| 03:35.26 | asterismo | 100% it works |
| 03:37.29 | houn | So, hack up a little bash script, run it with sudo, and attach it to the brightness buttons! |
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| 03:45.21 | jetscreamer | !pdiff |
| 03:45.21 | dpkg | The <apt> package manager supports "pdiff" files that allow apt-get/aptitude/synaptic to download diffs of the repository's Packages files instead of downloading the entire file every time. To disable use of pdiffs for one run, «apt-get update -o Acquire::PDiffs="false"». To permanently disable, add «Acquire::PDiffs "false";» to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/98nopdiff |
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| 03:47.47 | jetscreamer | well that's different |
| 03:49.15 | houn | Anyone use Terminator with xfce, and know how to get it to be transparent? |
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| 03:49.38 | houn | I suspect it's pseudo-transparency and I need to use something else to set the background... |
| 03:50.38 | jetscreamer | what's the common graphical package manager... i used synaptic maybe twice a long time ago. |
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| 03:56.33 | dotDeb | what's the best iptables frontend for debian? |
| 03:57.39 | BackEndCoder | imo its #shorewall |
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| 03:58.11 | dotDeb | backendcoder, thanks i'll try it out |
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| 04:13.05 | anonnumberanon | What would this do: fi$(echo "refo")x |
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| 04:13.13 | anonnumberanon | ? |
| 04:13.59 | houn | try to run firefox |
| 04:14.41 | Rusty1 | anon3664: ask #bash |
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| 04:55.14 | Nematocyst | how do i update my keys for GPG wheezy default repositories? error: http://pastebin.com/tLPSVhpX |
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| 04:57.58 | wols_ | should be in debian-keyring |
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| 04:58.42 | wols_ | !tell Nematocyst about wheezy sources.list |
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| 05:02.45 | Nematocyst | i know what sources.list is. it's unchanged since installation. no idea what the keyring is. this is a console only installation |
| 05:02.49 | neo1691 | Hi, last night I was having problems of Xresources not loading at startup. So I solved it my removing -merge from the lines xrdb -merge $RESOURCEFILE and xrdb -merge $USRRESOURCES from the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources . Is this a good solution? Will it cause me problems? |
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| 05:03.29 | wols_ | one of your entries in sources.list however isn't working anymore. I gave you an alternative. your choice if you don't want to use it |
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| 05:04.34 | ffog | anyone have experience with tslib? |
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| 05:08.39 | ffog | i'm getting "ts_calibrate: command not found" but touchscreen is working |
| 05:09.43 | ffog | i mean, ts_open: No such file or directory |
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| 05:10.48 | ffog | fixed those issues, ts_calibrate pops open for a sec and aborts |
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| 05:14.37 | ffog | i think the issue is figuring out what in /etc/input is the touchscreen |
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| 05:14.51 | dotDeb | !? |
| 05:14.57 | dotDeb | just got multiple CPUs locked up |
| 05:15.18 | dotDeb | "Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu" |
| 05:15.33 | dotDeb | i'm looking at the logs and i can't tell what caused it |
| 05:15.36 | Nematocyst | wols_ i see the problem now. apt-key list explains it... the expiration is 2019... date is wrong. it thinks it is 2033 for some reason |
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| 05:16.45 | dotDeb | is that a question I should ask in a different channel |
| 05:16.49 | dotDeb | since it's a kernel issue i think? |
| 05:17.38 | dotDeb | has anyone seen anything like this before? |
| 05:17.48 | dotDeb | watchdog detected hard LOCKUP? |
| 05:18.15 | SineDeviance | hi all ... got an odd problem. i have a virtual machine running debian 6 that has recently developed a serious performance issue. load averages are frequently above 1.00, but we have on average zero CPU or IO utilization according to htop and iotop |
| 05:18.31 | SineDeviance | so ... i am guessing the problem is likely another user on the node eating up all the IO, and nothing on our end? |
| 05:19.36 | Nematocyst | wols_ yeah, apt-get update worked fine after adjusting the date. never had that issue before. but that's a lot easier to fix |
| 05:19.37 | BackEndCoder | it would seem you may need to debug from the host machine |
| 05:19.51 | SineDeviance | BackEndCoder: can't. we rent :D |
| 05:20.01 | SineDeviance | i have no access. i did send in a support ticket though |
| 05:20.13 | dotDeb | backendcoder do you know how to diagnose "cpu lockups? |
| 05:20.14 | BackEndCoder | a nicely worded support ticket sounds like the next stage |
| 05:20.15 | dotDeb | " |
| 05:20.37 | BackEndCoder | sorry dotDeb i work on the prinible if the machine is still working, its not that bad |
| 05:20.55 | SineDeviance | http://i.imgur.com/3Uhd4R2.png |
| 05:20.59 | SineDeviance | ^relevant stats |
| 05:21.10 | dotDeb | backendcoder haha, well it has happened multiple times. It looks like it has something to do with ath9k |
| 05:21.17 | SineDeviance | note the load average ~1.00+ |
| 05:21.26 | dotDeb | backendcoder and it caused more than one cpu to lockup |
| 05:21.44 | dotDeb | backendcoder also the only way to fix it is to hard power down and reboot |
| 05:22.03 | dotDeb | backendcoder so it still works, just causes lots of loss when it happens |
| 05:22.15 | BackEndCoder | sounds nasty |
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| 05:22.49 | SineDeviance | dotDeb: you have multiple CPUs in the system? |
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| 05:22.58 | SineDeviance | or cores? |
| 05:23.36 | dotDeb | sinedeviance yes |
| 05:23.42 | SineDeviance | i'd say 'don't use wireless' as a temp solution ... but definitely ask someone who has experience with atheros chipsets (i have none) |
| 05:24.01 | dotDeb | sinedeviance that's not an option |
| 05:24.11 | SineDeviance | sure it is. plug in cat6 ;) |
| 05:24.16 | SineDeviance | (i'm joking) |
| 05:24.41 | dotDeb | would it help if I pastebinned the logs? |
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| 05:24.46 | SineDeviance | madwifi provides an ath9k driver, you could try that one instead |
| 05:25.06 | dotDeb | but shouldn't the regular one work? |
| 05:25.25 | SineDeviance | it should, but just because something SHOULD work, doesn't mean it always does :D |
| 05:25.36 | SineDeviance | i would test the madwifi ath9k driver and see what happens |
| 05:25.46 | SineDeviance | it's old, so i would not recommend it for long-term usage. but for testing it should be fine |
| 05:25.47 | dotDeb | is the madwifi one updated? |
| 05:25.50 | SineDeviance | nope |
| 05:25.54 | dotDeb | oh :/ |
| 05:26.08 | SineDeviance | it's been legacy since 2007 |
| 05:26.10 | SineDeviance | quite old |
| 05:26.27 | dotDeb | oh dang |
| 05:26.42 | SineDeviance | actually, better question ... have you tried running windows on the system? did it work? |
| 05:27.04 | alanjf | How exactly does one tell X what 3D driver to use? |
| 05:27.26 | SineDeviance | alanjf: xorg |
| 05:27.34 | SineDeviance | but it should be automatic |
| 05:28.11 | SineDeviance | alanjf: try doing 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' |
| 05:28.22 | SineDeviance | might allow you to select a different video driver. it used to. |
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| 05:29.39 | dotDeb | sinedeviance i haven't tried running windows on it, and I don't plan on it |
| 05:29.54 | dotDeb | sinedeviance im in the process of making a pastebin |
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| 05:30.40 | alanjf | SineDeviance: Thanks, I ran `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` but nothing happened. |
| 05:31.10 | SineDeviance | alanjf: hrm. no idea then. |
| 05:31.17 | SineDeviance | dotDeb: good luck. |
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| 05:32.03 | dotDeb | sinedeviance what do you mean |
| 05:32.16 | SineDeviance | dotDeb: i mean i hope you find the answer to your problem |
| 05:32.19 | SineDeviance | :D |
| 05:32.24 | SineDeviance | what else would it mean? :D |
| 05:32.52 | dotDeb | sinedeviance oh thx, i thought you were talking about making a pastebin :P |
| 05:33.03 | SineDeviance | as for my problem, i am just going to wait and see what our provider says. laters. |
| 05:34.19 | funyun | hi. how do i install the latest debian kernel? |
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| 05:37.11 | centrx | funyun, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 05:37.56 | NoCode | Hello. Is there a working rTorrent installation in Squeeze? |
| 05:38.25 | funyun | centrx: i don't currently have a debian kernel |
| 05:38.45 | centrx | funyun, What do you mean? |
| 05:38.46 | funyun | btw, i'm trying to do this on my dedicated server |
| 05:39.08 | funyun | centrx: right now i have some openvz kernel. but i want to install the latest debian kernel |
| 05:39.35 | centrx | funyun, Okay, it's probably apt-get install linux-image-<arch> |
| 05:39.48 | funyun | centrx: ya, but then what? |
| 05:40.28 | centrx | funyun, That should make the kernel available to the bootloader, and it might even make it the default (not sure if you have some other non-Debian kernel installed) |
| 05:40.49 | alanjf | Does anyone know how to get GNOME 3 to stop falling back to classic ? |
| 05:41.36 | funyun | centrx: how do i check if it's available in the bootloader? |
| 05:41.49 | centrx | funyun, reboot |
| 05:42.14 | centrx | funyun, Oh you said it's a production server? You can look in some grub file, probably /boot something or other |
| 05:42.19 | funyun | i mean is there a command i use? |
| 05:42.33 | funyun | yes. dedicated remote server |
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| 05:43.10 | funyun | centrx: is this what i'm looking for? initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 05:44.23 | centrx | The bootloader files are in /boot/grub |
| 05:44.53 | centrx | If you have the initrd that is a good sign, but it's not the verification you are looking for (if the apt-get install was successful and your installation is normal, it should just work) |
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| 05:45.25 | funyun | centrx: don't i have to do something to switch from the old kernel to the new debian kernel? |
| 05:45.52 | centrx | funyun, the apt-get install does it for you |
| 05:45.59 | centrx | funyun, You have to reboot, that's how you switch |
| 05:46.01 | k-man | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.28 | centrx | funyun, Command to reboot is "reboot", but you wanted to verify that the bootloader would handle it properly |
| 05:46.40 | k-man | or even better, try and bring up wlan0, and only try eth0 if wlan0 failed to come up and connect to a network |
| 05:46.52 | centrx | funyun, Now your hosting provider might have tools to work with your machine from some admin console or something, but otherwise you wanted to verify it would boot into the expected kernel |
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| 05:47.18 | centrx | funyun, I suppose there is no risk that it won't boot up at all, so you could just reboot and see what kernel it boots into, if you can spare the downtime to do it more than once |
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| 05:48.16 | funyun | centrx: it worked. thanks for the help :) |
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| 05:48.50 | centrx | great! |
| 05:48.55 | centrx | +1 for Debian |
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| 06:03.59 | ffog | close |
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| 06:16.43 | jpw | k-man: That's a rather complicated script. Why can;t you just connect on both interfaces and configure the routing table to do what you want it to do?? That's much simpler. |
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| 06:32.37 | k-man | ok, sounds good, i'll look into that |
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| 06:44.27 | k-man | part of the problem is that if there is no ethernet connected, the boot process takes about a minute longer because it stalls with dhcp trying to get an ip |
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| 08:24.21 | nullbyte_ | http://bpaste.net/show/189454/ |
| 08:24.31 | C4709 | I am trying to limit number of http requests on per ip address bases using following iptable rules http://pastebin.com/7f4exvuK to prevent dos attack against http deamon but when I run "apache benchmark" against the server than server do not responds to any ip address . Any idea where am I doing wrong ? |
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| 08:28.06 | nullbyte_ | http://paste.debian.net/87973/ |
| 08:28.09 | nullbyte_ | help? |
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| 08:28.41 | nullbyte_ | http://paste.debian.net/87974/ |
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| 08:38.10 | babilen | nullbyte_: You might want to ask an actual question. Try to write at least two sentences with at least one subclause ;) |
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| 08:45.35 | nullbyte_ | babilen: yes |
| 08:45.42 | nullbyte_ | babilen: i can't install kvirc pkg |
| 08:46.15 | nullbyte_ | http://paste.debian.net/87976/ |
| 08:47.22 | babilen | nullbyte_: Try aptitude and cycle through the first couple of suggestions please |
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| 08:47.56 | nullbyte_ | babilen: i have tried aptitude it's the same uou mean "aptitude install kvirc" ? |
| 08:48.43 | babilen | I do indeed, throw in "apt-get update" too |
| 08:48.54 | nullbyte_ | ok it's the same err |
| 08:48.55 | babilen | (before trying aptitude) |
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| 08:51.10 | babilen | nullbyte_: Also paste any /etc/apt/apt.conf*/* and apt-cache policy for libkvilib4, kvirc-modules and kde-runtime -- also *please* cycle through the first couple of aptitude's suggestions. |
| 08:51.27 | babilen | So, babilen is leaving now. Good luck! |
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| 08:54.47 | SSbroker | Hi from Spain julandrone anglo hablantes |
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| 09:12.52 | user1355 | I tried coping from ext3 partition to ntfs partition with cp -ax, and I want to verify that the all the files were coppied , but du show different size, and ls -lR show differnt sizes and number of links |
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| 09:13.45 | ArtVandalae | Hi all. I'm having trouble remembering. What is the name of the program that runs/prompts you for information, while in the process of installing a Debian package? |
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| 09:16.42 | ArtVandalae | Found it! It's called debconf |
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| 09:18.44 | joj | user1355: firstly, you should drop the -x flag because you cross fs boundaries (see man cp, the flag is meaningless here). Secondly, NTFS cannot represent all Unix file attributes, so you might lose some in the process. Thirdly, block sizes in different file systems can vary and files thus might occupy different amounts of space on different file systems. Thus, du might report (slightly) different sizes. |
| 09:18.46 | joj | Lastly, you might try to use rsync instead, which can report if it failed to transfer attributes, or other if other errors occured. Invoke it with the flags --progress --archive --human-readable --verbose. Consult man rsync for more info. |
| 09:19.27 | jelly-home | user1355: du usage will be different due to difference in allocation uints. There's --apparent-size |
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| 09:20.39 | ArtVandalae | user1355, sorry I'm late to the convo. But have you considered running hashing algorithms (e.g. md5, sha1, etc) over your content and comparing? |
| 09:20.42 | rryoumaa | user1355: directory sizes can be different even from unix to unix, i think |
| 09:20.50 | jelly-home | joj: I don't see where user1355 shows he's crossing fs boundaries |
| 09:21.05 | joj | jelly-home: ext3 -> ntfs? |
| 09:21.17 | jelly-home | joj: one's source, the other destination. |
| 09:21.52 | jelly-home | joj: there's no indication of multiple mountpoints on the source |
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| 09:22.33 | user1355 | ArtVandalae: I would be satisified just knowing the files and sizes are the same |
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| 09:23.19 | user1355 | du with --apparant-size shows small difference of 120 bytes |
| 09:23.30 | user1355 | or is it Kb |
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| 09:24.03 | joj | jelly-home: wait. -x = "stay on this file system". Does that only mean that source and destination have to be below the same mountpoint (like the mountpoints of the ext and ntfs are below /) and *not* that source and destination have to be on the same file system? |
| 09:24.11 | ArtVandalae | user1355, see this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/22730/is-there-md5-or-similar-to-a-folder-how-to-verify-if-two-folders-are-equal |
| 09:24.27 | rryoumaa | joj: there is nothing wrong with staying on same fs |
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| 09:24.55 | ArtVandalae | md5deep is available in the Debian repos |
| 09:25.12 | jelly-home | joj: it only means "do not traverse further mount points on the source", nothing more |
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| 09:26.19 | joj | jelly-home: aaah thank you very much for the clarification. I was under the impression that -x forbids cp to _copy_, not to _traverse_. Another day, another thing learned. |
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| 09:26.46 | jelly-home | it's a restriction on what to copy |
| 09:27.09 | joj | jelly-home: yes, now I've understood that |
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| 09:30.04 | Nz17 | How can I, using the terminal (xterm), have a program use a proxy for all of its networking? |
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| 09:30.56 | jelly-home | Nz17: what type of proxy? |
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| 09:31.10 | Nz17 | Privoxy on Debian Stable |
| 09:31.41 | jelly-home | is that a http proxy, socks, or what? |
| 09:31.47 | Nz17 | HTTP |
| 09:32.05 | Nz17 | Though it can do SOCKS, I'm interested in HTTP. |
| 09:32.11 | jelly-home | well behaved apps obey the http_proxy environment variable |
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| 09:32.41 | Nz17 | Sadly it is an app which used to obey that var, but no longer does. :-/ |
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| 09:34.23 | joj | Nz17: which program? |
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| 09:34.58 | Nz17 | Steam |
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| 09:35.05 | jelly-home | there are various LD_PRELOAD wrappers for socks in the distro. dante-client, tsocks, redsocks, maybe more |
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| 09:36.20 | jelly-home | apt-cache search socks might reveal others |
| 09:36.35 | Nz17 | Hmm, thanks for all the help, jelly-home! |
| 09:37.09 | user1355 | it seems like du spit the resutls in different order on each FS |
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| 09:37.48 | Nz17 | Have a good night/day, everyone! |
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| 09:41.43 | user1355 | anyone knows how to make du not list directories, but only files? |
| 09:42.40 | rozie_ | user1355: what you want to do, exactly |
| 09:43.03 | rozie_ | (not how - du is a tool, not a goal) |
| 09:43.17 | user1355 | I want to compare the files and their sizes in two dirs |
| 09:43.27 | user1355 | (and their subdirs) |
| 09:43.51 | rozie | compare how? there are tools for finding duplicate files |
| 09:44.27 | user1355 | just check that all files were coppied |
| 09:44.47 | rozie | run rsync |
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| 09:45.19 | rozie | it'll check this and copy if something is missing |
| 09:45.50 | user1355 | I cant install |
| 09:46.02 | user1355 | I got du |
| 09:46.35 | rozie | du -s * |
| 09:46.53 | rozie | but it won't check content in any way, just a size |
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| 09:49.31 | user1355 | -s don't show files |
| 09:49.35 | user1355 | I want to show files |
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| 09:49.50 | user1355 | and not to show directories |
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| 09:50.21 | rozie | just run this on top level where you copied |
| 09:50.24 | rozie | and compare output |
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| 09:50.35 | user1355 | output is different |
| 09:50.39 | user1355 | I want to know where |
| 09:50.50 | user1355 | where the difference |
| 09:51.06 | rozie | if size of subdir is the same, size of all files in this dir should be the same |
| 09:51.35 | rozie | so if you have subdir with different size, cd into it |
| 09:51.35 | user1355 | size of dirs is different |
| 09:51.39 | rozie | and repeat |
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| 09:52.10 | user1355 | that would mean manually checking all the fies with my eyes |
| 09:52.14 | user1355 | I want to use diff |
| 09:52.52 | user1355 | I just want to filter out the directories |
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| 09:53.13 | rozie | you wrote want to check subdirs |
| 09:53.30 | rozie | you cannot skip them and include them at the same time |
| 09:53.42 | rozie | du * seems to do what you need |
| 09:53.48 | user1355 | I want only their file content to be displayed |
| 09:54.13 | rozie | du does not display content |
| 09:54.14 | user1355 | I don't want the line that have dir + size of files in dir |
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| 09:55.26 | user1355 | an other question.. |
| 09:55.28 | rozie | probably you want to use find (and type file) in some way |
| 09:55.57 | user1355 | If I do 'ls -l dirname', it show me the content of the dir, I want just the dir |
| 09:56.31 | llutz | user1355: ls -ld dirname |
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| 09:56.47 | user1355 | thanks llutz |
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| 10:01.30 | user1355 | o |
| 10:01.39 | user1355 | I found that I got recync |
| 10:01.48 | user1355 | how to use it? |
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| 10:01.57 | user1355 | to compare dirs? |
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| 10:02.30 | AmbiguousOutlier | can i do a find and replace in the terminal on multiple files? |
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| 10:03.54 | lorenzo | hi! anything bad is using stable in the repos (instead of the current release) |
| 10:03.58 | lorenzo | and making debian rolling-like? |
| 10:04.01 | lorenzo | *in |
| 10:04.26 | jelly-home | user1355: do a dry-run of rsync. It will check for matching file names, sizes, ownerships and timestamps |
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| 10:05.26 | jelly-home | user1355: eg. rsync -Pan /some/source/ /path/to/destination/ |
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| 10:11.38 | user1355 | jelly-home: that did nothing, just printed a list of files |
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| 10:12.22 | jelly-home | user1355: that means rsync would have copied those files again |
| 10:12.40 | jelly-home | they're not the same in some relevant aspect. |
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| 10:12.50 | user1355 | it was too fast for rsync to know that |
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| 10:13.04 | user1355 | jelly-home: the copy changed ownership |
| 10:13.13 | jelly-home | user1355: that's one reason, yes |
| 10:13.15 | user1355 | and also number of links |
| 10:13.26 | user1355 | but that is not of interest to me |
| 10:13.36 | jelly-home | you'll have to explain that to rsync as well. |
| 10:14.16 | jelly-home | there are options to tell it to ignore ownership or permission differences |
| 10:14.33 | user1355 | I think it would be same to use diff? |
| 10:14.38 | user1355 | why use rsync? |
| 10:15.01 | jelly-home | because it will only look at metadata instead of reading the data |
| 10:15.17 | user1355 | rsync don't do md5s? |
| 10:15.37 | jelly-home | do you want to check the contents? |
| 10:15.42 | user1355 | no |
| 10:15.46 | jelly-home | well then |
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| 10:17.02 | user1355 | so... how do I tell rsync to ignore different owners? |
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| 10:18.21 | jelly-home | it's in the manual, I don't know it off the top of my head, sorry |
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| 10:27.12 | user1355 | rsync output all files, but their sizes are the same, and I used the flag --size-only, which I thought should make comparisons only by size |
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| 10:38.03 | neo16911 | I want to reinstall the libjpeg.so library! Can someone tell me which package does it belongs to? |
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| 10:38.32 | neo16911 | Or how to find out which package does it belongs to! |
| 10:38.37 | rozie | libjpeg8 |
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| 10:39.00 | neo16911 | rozie thanks! |
| 10:39.04 | itchyDoggy | can anyone help me with a quick question about cron? |
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| 10:43.44 | neo16911 | Now I have libjpeg library yet a web-gtk configure script says that I don't have the libjpeg6 . Any way I can fix this? |
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| 10:48.41 | neo16911 | Can I use an ubuntu ppa in debian? |
| 10:49.25 | nkuttler | neo16911: that's a bad idea. |
| 10:49.35 | nkuttler | neo16911: install one of the libjpeg -dev packages |
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| 10:50.33 | neo16911 | nkuttler: Okay! |
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| 10:52.17 | neo16911 | nkuttler: Spot On! Thanks! |
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| 10:58.10 | wuffi600 | hi dear people! |
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| 11:02.09 | wuffi600 | i would like to run a communciation server like the one used by redphone/textsecure/skype/whatsup/threema/... does there come such server with debian? i mean free software that i can run in my own networks acting as a server for chatting/conevrence/telefoning voice and video? |
| 11:02.36 | Brigo | wuffi600, yes, you can |
| 11:03.30 | wuffi600 | Brigo: asterisk with jitsi? |
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| 11:04.15 | Brigo | wuffi600, i dont know about jitsi, but asterix, for sure. |
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| 11:06.11 | Tasab | hello all , how i can add officejet printer type 4355 , my o/s ubuntu 13.10 saucy (lubuntu) , really badly needed - thanks |
| 11:06.38 | Brigo | wuffi600, i have found qutecom, SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features |
| 11:07.41 | Brigo | !ubuntu |
| 11:07.41 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 11:08.59 | neo16911 | what package contains the icu-config? |
| 11:09.31 | Tasab | dpkg; thanx anyway |
| 11:09.32 | dpkg | Tasab: gern geschehen |
| 11:09.43 | Brigo | Tasab, dpkg is a bot |
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| 11:10.07 | Tasab | ohmmm |
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| 11:12.35 | wols_ | neo16911: you can search via packages.debian.org or you can use apt-file on your own system |
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| 11:14.00 | Tasab | sie zu , dpkg |
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| 11:15.16 | wols_ | Tasab: check #ubuntu and ##linux for support for your installation |
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| 11:16.18 | Tasab | wols_; tried but no success , |
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| 11:18.58 | wuffi600 | Brigo:the diefference between asterisk an the commerical servers is that the commercial server with their clients offer to establish connections between client and server over difficult networking situations (firewalls, proxies, ...). Ususally you do not have a full internet connection when you are wandering through public wifi networks. skype and redphone are really clever to try every port and trick the proxies. |
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| 11:19.31 | wols_ | Tasab: we still cannot help you, sorry |
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| 11:20.14 | wols_ | wuffi600: I don't know of any commercial one that actually does text, multimedia, voice and video either |
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| 11:20.29 | wols_ | they typically are in the text/multimedia stage |
| 11:20.31 | wuffi600 | wols_: skype? |
| 11:20.53 | wuffi600 | wols_: ok skype does not sell the server... sure. |
| 11:20.54 | wols_ | I guess, but they are not really for mobile imho |
| 11:21.10 | wols_ | whatsapp and threema don't sell the server either, only a service |
| 11:22.11 | joj | Tasab: did you leverage all resoucres available? http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/officejet.html lists your model as supported by the hplip closed-source CUPS driver. http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/gethplip.html has instructions on how to download and install this, and your ubuntu 13.10 is listed as supported http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install.html. Try following the |
| 11:22.12 | joj | install instructions. |
| 11:22.22 | wuffi600 | wols_: redphone/textsecure is very very clever and that come to some fame helping in the "arab spring". |
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| 11:22.31 | charlie111 | Hello. Is it possible to forward port 443 for 2 web servers? My college runs proxy so cant foward any oher port |
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| 11:23.09 | wols_ | charlie111: do they have to use https? |
| 11:23.25 | charlie111 | Yeah |
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| 11:23.38 | wols_ | then it's very tricky IIRC due to the SSL certificates |
| 11:23.42 | wols_ | but possible |
| 11:23.43 | Tasab | joj; thanks , will follow |
| 11:23.47 | wuffi600 | wols_: the problem is the textsecure/redphone is a service by facebook that tracks your real phonenumber with every IP it apperas together. that make their database so wealthy. |
| 11:24.17 | wuffi600 | wols_: i'd like to run my own server... |
| 11:24.54 | Brigo | wuffi600, use a proxy |
| 11:25.26 | wuffi600 | Brigo: hm? sounds interesting . what you mean exactly? |
| 11:25.42 | charlie111 | Wols: what shud I add to SSL certificates? |
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| 11:25.59 | Brigo | if you use a proxy they will not get you ip, they will get the proxy ip. |
| 11:26.09 | SynrG | who runs the proxy? |
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| 11:27.20 | wols_ | charlie111: https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NameBasedSSLVHosts |
| 11:27.36 | fluff_ | Python has pep, does Linux has something similar? |
| 11:27.40 | wols_ | Brigo: for metadata this is mostly irrelevant. |
| 11:28.05 | wols_ | fluff_: nothing so formalized at all.are you talking about linux the kernel or linux the operating system? |
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| 11:30.18 | fluff_ | wols_: operating system actually :/ |
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| 11:30.32 | charlie111 | Wols: thanks |
| 11:30.59 | maslo | hi guys I just installed kali linux without an internet connection and I'm now trying to install my wireless driver for my broadcam wireless card BCM43227 and I'm having issues...if anyone could help me out that'd be great! I read online that I need to get bcmwl-kernel-source but it says unable to locate package and I have the default kali repos...is there any repo ic an add or an yway i can install it manually? |
| 11:31.13 | wols_ | !kali |
| 11:31.13 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 11:31.20 | wuffi600 | Brigo: in theory, it could make sence if all my redphone/textsecure contact would use sucessfully a proxy too. but in reality you can not always use a proxy when you're are wandsering through different public wifi networks and force all multi-Port and multi-protocoll traffic of redphone/textsecure to go through the proxy. An Idea could be to connect all client via openvpn to a single server that communiates with the redphone/textse |
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| 11:31.59 | maslo | ah thanks |
| 11:33.16 | Brigo | wuffi600, ah. :) |
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| 11:46.21 | neo16911 | I need to ask some questions about installing from source. I run ./configure and then make, so I have the package built in my local directory. Now If I run make install, it will get installed in usr/local by default. If I want to update the package what should I do. Can I just rm -rf the package from /usr/local? Will it work? |
| 11:46.41 | neo16911 | Can anyone give me a solid reference on compiling from source? |
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| 11:47.12 | neo16911 | Like what prefix= flags are? I just run ./configure without any options |
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| 11:48.05 | Brigo | neo16911, what package are you trying to update? |
| 11:48.11 | Brigo | upgrade* |
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| 11:50.07 | wols_ | !tell neo16911 about checkinstall |
| 11:50.15 | wols_ | neo16911: also look at stow |
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| 11:56.18 | neo16911 | Brigo: I am building the package webkit-1.8.1 from source as I want the webgtk greeter fot light dm |
| 11:56.43 | neo16911 | wols_: I am asking what if this source package gets updated in near future! |
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| 11:57.48 | wols_ | neo16911: then you need to update it yourself again. and when you installed via checkinstall, you can uninstall it again. that's the point |
| 11:58.06 | Brigo | if webkit in debian? |
| 11:58.21 | abrotman | lightdm is in Debian already? |
| 11:58.32 | neo16911 | Brigo: No! |
| 11:58.47 | Brigo | so you aren't upgrading |
| 11:58.51 | neo16911 | abrotman: yes lightdm is in Debian, but there are greeter that has different themes for lightdm |
| 11:58.59 | neo16911 | Brigo: No I am just installing :) |
| 11:59.16 | Brigo | so use checkinstall. |
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| 12:00.15 | neo16911 | abrotman: This greeter that I am installing virtually makes the login screen like a web page . I will be making it like this! http://imgur.com/a/rPnXY |
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| 12:01.23 | Brigo | neo16911, pretty :) |
| 12:01.29 | psiklops | yeah |
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| 12:01.36 | skypce | hello guys |
| 12:01.38 | skypce | i am trying |
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| 12:02.34 | FlowRiser | neo16911: don't get too excited about that xD |
| 12:03.01 | skypce | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (used by debian/gnome-session-bin/usr/lib/gnome-session/gnome-session-check-accelerated-helper). |
| 12:03.13 | skypce | i am trying to compile gnome-session |
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| 12:03.20 | skypce | i have this error please help me |
| 12:03.32 | FlowRiser | skypce: you using x64 ? |
| 12:03.38 | skypce | yes |
| 12:03.45 | neo16911 | FlowRiser: why so! |
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| 12:03.56 | skypce | yes FlowRiser |
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| 12:04.35 | abrotman | skypce: why not use the packages already in Debian? |
| 12:04.58 | skypce | becouse i need fix some code |
| 12:05.42 | Brigo | skypce, you could download de debian package source, modify it and compile it. |
| 12:05.52 | FlowRiser | skypce: it is a common problem using x64 .. it appears also when trying to run skype for example |
| 12:05.55 | skypce | yes i do t |
| 12:06.03 | skypce | i do it FLowRiser |
| 12:06.21 | skypce | sudo apt-get build-dep package, sudo apt-get source package |
| 12:06.24 | FlowRiser | skypce: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257897/error-loading-libgl-so-1 some ld config work can do it |
| 12:06.26 | skypce | and trying to compile it |
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| 12:08.38 | FlowRiser | neo16911: the reason why that webkit is not worth it is because you can achieve so much more using the kde-greeter for example |
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| 12:09.36 | neo16911 | FlowRiser: But is kde-greeter is in the debian repositories, and will it require the kde dependencies? |
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| 12:10.35 | FlowRiser | neo16911: yes, unfortunately it will require kde deps |
| 12:11.11 | neo16911 | FlowRiser: Okay! Can you give me some links as to how to tweak this greeter? Anything that can make me get started |
| 12:11.43 | neo16911 | Although this webkit greeter also has many dependencies ,those are all development libraries! |
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| 12:12.06 | FlowRiser | neo16911: firstly install it and then take a look in the .qml files of the theme of your choosing |
| 12:12.22 | FlowRiser | neo16911: if you know a bit of qml you can modify it to your liking |
| 12:12.24 | skypce | thank you FlowRiser |
| 12:12.32 | skypce | but it doesnt work for me |
| 12:13.01 | FlowRiser | skypce: i also have a greeter i written long time ago that does not use kde deps |
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| 12:13.17 | FlowRiser | skypce: it is very barebone, also using qml for themeing |
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| 12:14.47 | neo16911 | Thanks flowriser |
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| 12:17.48 | skypce | FlowRiser, i will try to compile from a virtualmachine |
| 12:17.53 | skypce | with a clean installation |
| 12:18.30 | FlowRiser | skypce: that's the way to go when dealing with greeters xD Unless you want to be left out of your system |
| 12:19.30 | skypce | i dont know, i think it is problem with my grapgic drivers |
| 12:19.41 | skypce | i setted up they with sgfxi scripts |
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| 12:19.54 | skypce | may be cant find the opengl.so in libraries |
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| 12:21.07 | FlowRiser | skypce: have you tried finding the lib manually? |
| 12:21.26 | skypce | yes i know where is it |
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| 12:22.01 | skypce | but how tell to dpkg-buildpackage where is it |
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| 12:23.16 | FlowRiser | skypce: use this trick http://stackoverflow.com/questions/426230/what-is-the-ld-preload-trick |
| 12:24.19 | skypce | very thank you FlowRiser i will test |
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| 12:28.38 | linuxthefish | hi, what does this error mean? "Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/File.pm line 44, <DEBCONF_CONFIG> chunk 3." |
| 12:28.48 | linuxthefish | on apt-get -f install |
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| 12:29.32 | SynrG | debconf went bonk. what were you doing? |
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| 12:30.04 | SynrG | which version of debconf, for starters? |
| 12:30.18 | linuxthefish | no clue, but "debconf: DbDriver "config": mkdir :No such file or directory" :S |
| 12:30.59 | wols_ | show us the full output of your apt-get -f install and tell us which packages you wanted to fix and where they are from |
| 12:31.01 | linuxthefish | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Lp4ZrV6X the full log :( |
| 12:31.24 | linuxthefish | i was trying to install openssl |
| 12:32.10 | wols_ | you had preexisting errors before that |
| 12:32.15 | SynrG | linuxthefish: dpkg -l debconf |
| 12:32.16 | wols_ | I suggest you try and install exim |
| 12:32.56 | linuxthefish | SynrG 1.5.49 |
| 12:33.06 | SynrG | ,v debconf |
| 12:33.07 | judd | Package: debconf on i386 -- squeeze: 1.5.36.1; wheezy: 1.5.49; jessie: 1.5.52; sid: 1.5.52 |
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| 12:35.12 | SynrG | curious. i don't see any concatenation at line 44 |
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| 12:35.49 | linuxthefish | :S |
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| 12:36.55 | linuxthefish | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.13 | abrotman | it got .. deleted? |
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| 12:37.38 | linuxthefish | it was using 40gb and it was disposable |
| 12:37.44 | SynrG | line 49: |
| 12:37.46 | SynrG | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.01 | SynrG | Use of uninitialized value $directory in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/File.pm line 49, <DEBCONF_CONFIG> chunk 3. |
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| 12:38.57 | SynrG | probably in perl, interpolation of variables inside a string literal is a concatenation? |
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| 12:39.43 | linuxthefish | what should $directory be |
| 12:40.01 | SynrG | whatever sendmail-bin wanted to set it to ... |
| 12:40.04 | SynrG | but failed to |
| 12:40.05 | SynrG | :p |
| 12:40.17 | SynrG | in the preinst |
| 12:40.36 | SynrG | take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail-bin.preinst ? |
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| 12:43.00 | linuxthefish | i only have sendmail-bin.list and sendmail-bin.postrm :( |
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| 12:43.33 | SynrG | ,v sendmail-bin |
| 12:43.34 | judd | Package: sendmail-bin on i386 -- squeeze: 8.14.3-9.4; wheezy: 8.14.4-4; jessie: 8.14.4-5; sid: 8.14.4-5 |
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| 12:47.26 | jeddi | bash-completion seems broken in sid (sometime in the past month - only just did an upgrade today). i've reverted bash & bash-completion to testing branches, but still seeing weirdness. am i all alone? :) |
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| 12:48.11 | SynrG | linuxthefish: humm. i have the preinst (dpkg -e sendmail-bin*.deb sendmail-scripts) |
| 12:48.32 | linuxthefish | oh well |
| 12:48.43 | linuxthefish | how do i stop it installing sendmail? :S |
| 12:49.06 | SynrG | don't see where it does anything with debconf :/ |
| 12:49.15 | SynrG | well, the advice to install exim first seemed goood |
| 12:49.16 | SynrG | good* |
| 12:49.23 | SynrG | that would satisfy the mta dep |
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| 12:53.30 | SynrG | the only thing i can think is that when debconf is sourced by the preinst it craps out |
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| 12:54.17 | SynrG | maybe something is set up by one of sendmail's deps (sendmail-base or sendmail-cf) incorrectly? |
| 12:54.35 | SynrG | possibly because of an old and not-entirely removed prior install of sendmail |
| 12:54.56 | SynrG | linuxthefish: dpkg -l 'sendmail*' |
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| 12:56.09 | linuxthefish | SynrG http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=z2u3CfyL :/ |
| 12:56.10 | linuxthefish | oh |
| 12:56.58 | linuxthefish | and "E: Unmet dependencies" on installing exim-base4 |
| 12:57.10 | linuxthefish | exim4-base |
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| 13:00.43 | SynrG | apt-cache policy |
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| 13:01.17 | SynrG | probably want to get rid of the sendmail stuff too |
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| 13:02.21 | SynrG | linuxthefish: sendmail-bin has: |
| 13:02.22 | SynrG | Conflicts: mail-transport-agent |
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| 13:03.07 | SynrG | so you need to get rid of sendmail* |
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| 13:04.15 | SynrG | might be able to do things automatically with apt-get -f install exim4 |
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| 13:05.13 | linuxthefish | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.21 | linuxthefish | server reinstall i guess |
| 13:05.36 | SynrG | huh? no |
| 13:05.54 | SynrG | so just remove the sendmail packages manually |
| 13:06.33 | SynrG | also, you're only showing a single line from each error. hard to say exactly what happened there without the whole output of each command. |
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| 13:08.29 | linuxthefish | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2vjkLK9x for apt-get -f install exim4 |
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| 13:09.00 | linuxthefish | "apt-get --purge remove sendmail" also does the same |
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| 13:10.22 | SynrG | also, you didn't give me the 'apt-cach policy' |
| 13:10.27 | SynrG | apt-cache policy, even |
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| 13:11.17 | linuxthefish | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WbK9NFgy for apt-cache policy :( |
| 13:11.18 | linuxthefish | thanks |
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| 13:13.09 | SynrG | linuxthefish: what's the history of this system? a fresh wheezy install? something else? |
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| 13:13.26 | linuxthefish | installed like a week ago |
| 13:13.59 | linuxthefish | then /var/cache had loads of .bin files in it like 1gb each, so someone on another channel said to rm -rf /var/cache |
| 13:14.56 | SynrG | uh? *all* of /var/cache? |
| 13:14.58 | abrotman | on what other channel ? |
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| 13:15.05 | SynrG | that's insane |
| 13:15.27 | SynrG | linuxthefish: so yes, you've shot yourself in the foot because you destroyed debconf's database |
| 13:15.41 | SynrG | linuxthefish: you made /var/cache/debconf go away |
| 13:15.48 | SynrG | nothing that sources debconf will now work |
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| 13:16.03 | SynrG | linuxthefish: please sanity-check advice like that |
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| 13:16.54 | SynrG | linuxthefish: a complete reinstall is your only solution now (unless you have a full backup) |
| 13:16.58 | linuxthefish | oh :( |
| 13:17.05 | linuxthefish | will an old backup do? |
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| 13:17.39 | linuxthefish | of /var/cache or can i just copy it from another system |
| 13:18.29 | SynrG | well, FHS says /var/cache is "Application cache data. Such data are locally generated as a result of time-consuming I/O or calculation. The application must be able to regenerate or restore the data. The cached files can be deleted without loss of data." |
| 13:18.42 | linuxthefish | oh |
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| 13:18.50 | linuxthefish | but not apt-get i guess |
| 13:18.56 | SynrG | so theoretically, if it's all FHS-compliant, you should be able to recreate the contents of all /var/cache contents by some means |
| 13:19.09 | SynrG | the problem is there is *so* much stuff there ... |
| 13:19.30 | SynrG | it would be a major research project to figure out every single application command to restore the contents of the cache for each thing you destroyed ... |
| 13:19.52 | linuxthefish | i'll just never install anything every again i guess :( |
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| 13:20.55 | Faisal | sorry guys silly question, I've a network interface to which i assigned a static ip using "ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0", i want to get rid of that and get a dhcp lease, anyone knows how to do it please (google is quite confusing on this) |
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| 13:23.33 | wols_ | Faisal: dhclient eth0 ? |
| 13:24.14 | SynrG | linuxthefish: try simply mkdir -p /var/cache/debconf |
| 13:24.20 | SynrG | linuxthefish: then apt-get update |
| 13:24.29 | SynrG | see if that's enough to get things moving in the right direction |
| 13:24.30 | Faisal | wols_: thx, it worked, (I thought i had to do something first to remove the static ip) |
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| 13:24.57 | SynrG | linuxthefish: if that's not enough in and of itself, try dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
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| 13:26.05 | SynrG | linuxthefish: as i said, though, i have no way of knowing what *other* caches you destroyed, nor the commands to recreate those |
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| 13:26.47 | linuxthefish | omg SynrG fixed ty <3 |
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| 13:27.02 | SynrG | linuxthefish: which of the things i suggested fixed it? |
| 13:27.08 | linuxthefish | <SynrG> linuxthefish: try simply mkdir -p /var/cache/debconf |
| 13:27.08 | linuxthefish | <SynrG> linuxthefish: then apt-get update |
| 13:27.30 | SynrG | ok. but you may still have problems in future due to other destroyed caches |
| 13:27.48 | linuxthefish | i don't change much on this system so it should be all ok |
| 13:27.51 | SynrG | as for cleaning out large number of debs the correct command for cleaning those is just "apt-get clean" |
| 13:27.57 | linuxthefish | oh |
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| 13:28.06 | SynrG | who advised you rm -rf /var/cache? that was terrible advice |
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| 13:28.30 | linuxthefish | #ubuntu or #linux i think |
| 13:28.53 | SynrG | great |
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| 13:29.10 | linuxthefish | oh well, thanks :D |
| 13:29.18 | FlowRiser | oh lol @ removing /var/cache |
| 13:29.30 | linuxthefish | lighttpd also had some issue but i just re-created the directory |
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| 13:29.40 | SynrG | linuxthefish: so if, down the road, you have *more* problems on this system, the first thing that is suspect is other things that need to be restored in /var/cache |
| 13:29.57 | SynrG | linuxthefish: recreate each top-level cache dir and try to find the command(s) to restore the caches |
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| 13:30.01 | themill | (files are allowed to be expired from /var/cache; directories are not) |
| 13:30.01 | linuxthefish | yeah |
| 13:30.06 | linuxthefish | oh |
| 13:30.22 | SynrG | in some cases the apps may require different ownership/permissions on the cache dirs |
| 13:30.31 | SynrG | compare with other, working systems with the same caches |
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| 13:31.09 | SynrG | e.g. /var/cache/cups : |
| 13:31.15 | SynrG | drwxrwxr-x 3 root lp 4096 Mar 16 06:26 cups |
| 13:31.32 | SynrG | and /var/cache/ldconfig : |
| 13:31.33 | SynrG | drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Mar 12 11:59 ldconfig |
| 13:31.45 | SynrG | and /var/cache/man : |
| 13:31.46 | SynrG | drwxr-sr-x 66 man root 4096 Mar 16 06:54 man |
| 13:31.48 | SynrG | etc. |
| 13:32.01 | linuxthefish | it's re-created ldconfig and man :D |
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| 13:32.10 | SynrG | good |
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| 13:32.58 | babous | hello |
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| 14:06.53 | cweiske | cloning https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/pkg-php/php.git always fails with "Connection refused" |
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| 14:07.05 | cweiske | that's the same since about a week |
| 14:07.07 | cweiske | why? |
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| 14:07.42 | abrotman | works fine with a web browser |
| 14:08.21 | cweiske | yep, but git cloning does not |
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| 14:18.36 | dutchfish | cweiske, fatal: http://git.debian.org/anonscm/git/pkg-php/php.git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? |
| 14:19.32 | medfly | I am missing a .tfm font for using LaTeX and I am having a hard time "installing" it. |
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| 14:20.50 | cweiske | dutchfish, I'm cloning freshly |
| 14:21.13 | dutchfish | cweiske, i tried as well, same outcome |
| 14:21.34 | dutchfish | cweiske, over https it just hangs |
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| 14:21.53 | cweiske | strange. the https address is the one advertised on the website |
| 14:22.00 | dutchfish | yup |
| 14:22.30 | dutchfish | cweiske, also see https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git |
| 14:22.59 | dutchfish | i have really no idea whats going on |
| 14:23.07 | cweiske | ah |
| 14:23.12 | cweiske | cloning via git works |
| 14:23.15 | cweiske | dutchfish, thanks |
| 14:23.20 | cweiske | the wiki page gave me the git url |
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| 14:23.25 | cweiske | git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-php/php.git |
| 14:23.34 | dutchfish | cweiske, yw, but the q remains why it fails over https |
| 14:23.44 | cweiske | yep |
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| 14:26.47 | dutchfish | cweiske, fyi git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-php/php.git worked for me as well |
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| 14:27.41 | c3p0_ | hey guys |
| 14:27.50 | c3p0_ | I'm back with some more installation problems |
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| 14:27.58 | c3p0_ | this time I chose the 7.4-netinstall |
| 14:27.58 | dvs | runs |
| 14:27.59 | dutchfish | cweiske, http://paste.debian.net/88019/ |
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| 14:28.15 | c3p0_ | now it freezes at the check-missing-firmware |
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| 14:28.35 | c3p0_ | and keeps bugging me about "unable to enumerate USB device on port 6" |
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| 14:29.12 | c3p0_ | wtf is going on here? |
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| 14:36.19 | dutchfish | c3p0_, generally you should look at the initial .udeb for udev, but thats a hard bargen to deal with as a non-dev. Either disable some usb devices on install in bios, or check upnp |
| 14:37.05 | dutchfish | c3p0_, i solved this one once myself this way |
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| 14:37.44 | dutchfish | c3p0_, there is a limit how many can be handled on install on shared interupts |
| 14:37.51 | c3p0_ | dutchfish: thx, gonna check the bios |
| 14:37.54 | abrotman | not likely the issue .. |
| 14:37.57 | dutchfish | yw |
| 14:38.01 | abrotman | c3p0_: How old is the hardware? |
| 14:38.06 | c3p0_ | stone age |
| 14:38.09 | c3p0_ | -ish |
| 14:38.19 | dutchfish | c3p0_, then forget what i said |
| 14:38.26 | abrotman | dpkg: tell c3p0_ about firmrware images |
| 14:38.36 | abrotman | dpkg: tell c3p0_ about firmware images |
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| 14:39.15 | dutchfish | abrotman, thanks |
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| 14:39.24 | c3p0_ | it's a Fujitsu Siemens with a P4, and I've installed debian on computers with worse HW than this |
| 14:39.29 | c3p0_ | getting really frustrated |
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| 14:45.19 | c3p0_ | okay dutchfish and abrotman. I think I solved it. It really hangs on the link on eth0 process |
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| 14:45.56 | c3p0_ | i dropped to tty2 and tried to ping against google's dns and it says network unreachable |
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| 14:47.23 | petn-randall | c3p0_: Sounds like missing firmware to me. You can ignore the USB error message for now, unless some USB hardware is not working which you need for the installation. |
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| 14:49.11 | dutchfish | i bet is the lan adapter or/and scaleo that needs firmware |
| 14:49.21 | c3p0_ | petn-randall: so, you're telling me some firmware was removed between the 7.2 and 7.4 release? |
| 14:49.38 | c3p0_ | 'cuz it worked just fine pinging from the 7.2 installer |
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| 14:50.41 | dutchfish | c3p0_, i dont think so, but it is possible that some drivers in the kernel went to non-free |
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| 14:51.15 | dvs | c3p0_: So why not use the firmware iso? |
| 14:51.16 | dutchfish | c3p0_, but not since 7.2 |
| 14:51.37 | c3p0_ | dvs: downloading as we speak |
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| 14:56.11 | pav5088 | Hi... Is there a list somewhere of minimal packages to install? I'm experimenting with FAI to automatically install a Debian Wheezy system... |
| 14:56.36 | dutchfish | gone prepare some food, untill later |
| 14:56.49 | Brigo | pav5088, so such things but netinstall could be a good start. |
| 14:57.51 | Brigo | pav5088, what is FAI? |
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| 14:59.28 | wols_ | pav5088: the base system is installed by netinst image. that's the minimal amount. then after that, tasksel is run. if you don't install anything there, then you have a minimal debian system after installation |
| 14:59.35 | pav5088 | Brigo, FAI = fully automatic installer |
| 14:59.36 | wols_ | !tell Brigo about FAI |
| 14:59.56 | Brigo | thanks |
| 15:01.57 | cromag | !fai |
| 15:01.58 | dpkg | Fully Automatic Installation (FAI) is an automated tool to install or deploy Debian (and other distributions) on a bunch of different hosts or a cluster. It is more flexible than tools like <kickstart> (Red Hat), autoyast and alice (SuSE) or jumpstart (Oracle Solaris). FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. http://fai-project.org/ #fai on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:03.20 | Brigo | cromag, too late ;) |
| 15:03.54 | iqualfragile | Bus 008 Device 008: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100v2 802.11abgn [Broadcom BCM4323] <-- bought that thing |
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| 15:04.30 | iqualfragile | rt2800usb seems to support a device with the same chip, but not this one |
| 15:04.35 | iqualfragile | how to get it to work? |
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| 15:04.58 | cromag | fai seems awsome |
| 15:05.00 | cromag | i need that |
| 15:05.31 | Brigo | ,pciid 0846:901 |
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| 15:06.00 | Brigo | ,pciid 0846:9011 |
| 15:06.01 | judd | [0846:9011] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0846:9011 |
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| 15:07.14 | Brigo | iqualfragile, did you install firmware? |
| 15:07.21 | neo1691 | Is it a good practise to move a source package to /usr/local and then ./configure>make>make install it? |
| 15:07.45 | iqualfragile | cromag: it work quite well, but its a lot of work to set up in my experience |
| 15:07.47 | iqualfragile | Brigo: yes |
| 15:08.12 | Brigo | neo1691, sources use to be in /usr/src. |
| 15:08.25 | Brigo | neo1691, if you want to instal from sources use checkinstall |
| 15:08.27 | cromag | iqualfragile: well - it's either that, or clones |
| 15:08.32 | cromag | or an old PXE |
| 15:08.37 | Brigo | !tell neo1691 about checkinstall |
| 15:08.40 | neo1691 | Yes I will! :) |
| 15:09.08 | iqualfragile | cromag: you need pxe for fai (well, in most cases) |
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| 15:10.01 | cromag | ok, then i can pop it on top if it |
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| 15:11.05 | neo1691 | checkinstall will solve all of my problems it seems, I just need to run configure and make anywhere and checkinstall will run make install for me. Is it right Brigo ? |
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| 15:12.09 | Brigo | neo1691, checkinstall will create a .deb with all the installable stuff. The you can simply dpkg -i <created-packag>.deb |
| 15:12.33 | Brigo | iqualfragile, it seem is not supported in linux kernel, but you can try ndiswrapper. |
| 15:12.51 | Brigo | iqualfragile, or try a recent kernel. |
| 15:12.55 | c3p0_ | so... tried to install with the firmware iso. no luck |
| 15:13.09 | iqualfragile | Brigo: ok |
| 15:13.14 | c3p0_ | still freezes at the same point |
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| 15:13.39 | neo1691 | Ah ok! |
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| 15:13.45 | Brigo | c3p0_, what are you talking about. |
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| 15:14.05 | Brigo | neo1691, and more important: you can uninstall it easely and cleanly. |
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| 15:14.20 | c3p0_ | Brigo: the very same thing I've been talking about since my join |
| 15:14.37 | medfly | I installed culmus (comes as a package) which is supposed to contain a font called rfrank, but applications like evince and dvips don't recognise its existence. what can I do? |
| 15:15.16 | Brigo | c3p0_, i just come in, sorry |
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| 15:16.08 | c3p0_ | Brigo: my apologizes. I've been trying to install debian with the 7.4-netinstall, it freezed up at the discovering link, then I was told to try the firmware iso but it freezes at the thing |
| 15:16.19 | Brigo | medfly, try update-fonts-dir ... |
| 15:16.49 | Brigo | c3p0_, are you talking about network? |
| 15:16.56 | Brigo | wireless may be? |
| 15:17.57 | abrotman | c3p0_: how long are you waiting? |
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| 15:19.03 | medfly | Brigo: well, this is odd, I can't find the font anywhere. although I'm not entirely sure that I'm searching correctly |
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| 15:20.04 | Brigo | medfly, than i can find in culmus package: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/culmus/FrankRuehlCLM-Medium.ttf |
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| 15:20.20 | neo1691 | I'll be using check install, Is there any reason to install sudo. I mean whats the difference in running sudo make install and su (password) -> make install? Are there any ownership issues? |
| 15:20.25 | medfly | oh, I just don't know how to search for files, apparently :) thank you |
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| 15:20.41 | Brigo | neo1691, no, |
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| 15:21.08 | Brigo | medfly, I used apt-file list culmus |
| 15:21.21 | medfly | thanks |
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| 15:21.30 | Brigo | medfly, np :) |
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| 15:22.41 | gnugnu9 | debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed |
| 15:22.47 | gnugnu9 | does this mean the package is not configured during installation? |
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| 15:23.21 | neo1691 | so I don't need to install sudo! I can always change to root user if I want to run anything as root! :) |
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| 15:24.11 | Brigo | neo1691, yes |
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| 15:24.41 | Brigo | gnugnu9, i think yes, install apt-utils ... |
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| 15:25.11 | c3p0_ | abrotman: the longest I waited was 10 min |
| 15:25.17 | c3p0_ | well above the limit |
| 15:25.17 | neo1691 | It seems I have hit gold. Tonnes of thanks for checkinstall :) |
| 15:25.27 | neo1691 | Brigo: ^^ |
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| 15:25.50 | gnugnu9 | Bigo: What exactly does apt-utils? |
| 15:26.15 | Brigo | neo1691, yes, a very good tool :) |
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| 15:27.28 | Brigo | gnugnu9, apt-cache show apt-utils will tell you :) |
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| 15:29.18 | medfly | okay, so the issue is indeed different, this non-package thing might be asking to use "rfrank" and I think it is named differently in the system, so I gotta change stuff, I guess. |
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| 15:33.57 | Brigo | !tell medfly about fonts |
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| 15:35.12 | neo1691 | And the best part is that I am going to use checkinstall from my very first installation from source after reformatting my laptop. So I will have a clean laptop! :) |
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| 15:36.09 | k0fee | i upgraded my laptops cpu from intel sandybridge i5 to i7 not sure if that was a good move, on debian wheezy and the i7 when pushed can get hot, is there a way to disable hyperthreading from the OS, i did disable it from bios |
| 15:36.54 | k0fee | when idling, doing general net stuff, she stays around 34C, when i do anything cpu intensive, she goes up fast |
| 15:37.37 | wols_ | if you disabled it in BIOS is should be disabled in the OS too. but it won't help. the i5 was a dualcore CPU with 35W TDP or so, and the i7 is a quadcore CPU with 45W. you simply fucked up. you should never have switched these CPUs |
| 15:37.58 | wols_ | but a hot cpu under load is normal for laptops |
| 15:38.36 | k0fee | yeah, i'm thinken yer on the money, camed from desktop builds over the years, once in a while do a laptop, totally forgot about this |
| 15:38.47 | k0fee | plus i put an ssd in, so now things can really hit it |
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| 15:39.32 | k0fee | wow, that sounded bad, "camed" mean "came" |
| 15:39.46 | k0fee | man i can't type, shit, coffee... |
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| 15:41.05 | k0fee | well, live and learn, put 7 on it hustle it thanx have a good one |
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| 15:43.36 | Ast001 | Hello, on my Debian Wheezy bind9.8.4 works from localhost or when I query it from LAN but when I query it outside LAN I got 'connection timed out; no servers could be reached'. Named is running on public ip. Internet connection is ok. Ping,apache and ssh to server are working from outside of LAN... Can you point me what could be reason for that ? |
| 15:44.15 | wols_ | Ast001: as root: netstat -anp|grep 53 |
| 15:44.27 | Ast001 | yes I did it it and I see named |
| 15:44.34 | Brigo | Ast001, is the port open? |
| 15:44.53 | wols_ | Ast001: I know you do, but I still want to know what exactly it shows |
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| 15:46.03 | Ast001 | 176.104.106.21:53, 127.0.0.1:53,127.0.0.1:953,127.0.0.1:953,127.0.0.1:53 first 3 LISTEN other 3 udp pid 3074/named |
| 15:46.32 | Ast001 | (last 2 are udp) |
| 15:47.05 | Ast001 | dig @localhost doman works dig from other machine in lan works too. |
| 15:47.27 | abrotman | Ast001: you're not listening on your external interface |
| 15:47.51 | Ast001 | 176.104.106.21:53 ? isn't it external public ip address ? |
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| 15:48.34 | wols_ | abrotman: it looks to me he does |
| 15:48.41 | Ast001 | here is result http://pastebin.ca/2667365 |
| 15:49.30 | Brigo | Ast001, from outside land you can't do a dig, dont you? |
| 15:49.45 | Ast001 | I can't from outside of LAN |
| 15:50.04 | Ast001 | I can from localhost, from 2 machines in lan but not from internet |
| 15:50.05 | Brigo | so, may be the port is blocked. |
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| 15:50.36 | Brigo | may be tcptraceroute can help |
| 15:50.40 | Ast001 | well I thought that too but I did telnet publicip 53 and get connection I did nmap to public ip and it says 53 listen. |
| 15:50.55 | abrotman | oh, missed the first line :) |
| 15:50.59 | abrotman | erm .. first IP |
| 15:51.06 | JyZyXEL | # update-initramfs -u |
| 15:51.09 | JyZyXEL | update-initramfs: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 has been altered. |
| 15:51.11 | JyZyXEL | update-initramfs: Cannot update. Override with -t option. |
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| 15:51.22 | JyZyXEL | what is that, i've never had that happen before |
| 15:51.32 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: man update-initramfs .. what is the -t option? |
| 15:51.46 | Ast001 | what to do with tcptraceroute ? to do traceroute to public ip ? |
| 15:51.48 | JyZyXEL | yeah but why is it doing this |
| 15:51.54 | abrotman | Ast001: what if you dig @176.104.106.21 www.google.com ? |
| 15:52.02 | JyZyXEL | data corruption? |
| 15:52.25 | JyZyXEL | oh wait i just mounted the wrong /boot :p |
| 15:52.34 | Ast001 | from inside lan i get answer right away from internet timeout |
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| 15:53.30 | Brigo | are you sure you are not blocking the port? are you sure your isp is not blcking the port? |
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| 15:54.03 | Ast001 | I am sure for myself I am not blocking port for ISP I can't guarantee but as nmap says open and telnet can connect I think it is not blocking. |
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| 15:54.16 | abrotman | Ast001: what if you dig @176.104.106.21 www.google.com ? |
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| 15:54.59 | Brigo | Ast001, ok, i am just asking :) |
| 15:55.01 | Ast001 | if I dig like that from that machina or from lan I get answer, If I dig from other host on internet i get connection timeout |
| 15:55.41 | Ast001 | nmap says: 53/tcp open domain |
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| 15:55.54 | abrotman | Ast001: DNS lookups are UDP |
| 15:56.24 | medfly | woo hoo! success! I needed to run "updmap", now it works well! |
| 15:56.26 | Ast001 | yes how can I check udp with nmap is it posssible ? |
| 15:56.35 | Brigo | i am wonderin where is the lan ip ... |
| 15:57.00 | medfly | Brigo: wooo! |
| 15:57.12 | Ast001 | Brigo those are 3 machines dedicated servers with public ip each. from them it works from outside not. |
| 15:57.13 | Brigo | medfly, nice wiki, isnt it? :) |
| 15:57.26 | medfly | Brigo: apparently the only thing I needed to do was run the command "updmap" |
| 15:58.01 | Ast001 | I am going to write email to provider to check if he is blocking. |
| 15:58.10 | Brigo | medfly, tex font map, interesting :-m |
| 15:58.29 | abrotman | Ast001: man nmap, there's an option for UDP |
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| 16:00.44 | Brigo | -sU |
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| 16:03.16 | k0fee | did a reboot, found a "work around" not pretty but better for now, i disabled multicore in the bios and re-enabled HT, so the conky shows only cores 1 and 2 getting used, this at the very least saves it from getting too hot, ran a batch process, opened up msnbc video she maxed out at 68C |
| 16:03.24 | abrotman | Brigo: that was for him to read .. spoonfeeding doesn't help |
| 16:03.47 | k0fee | i'll keep my paws off of any laptop cpus in the future ;) appreciate the help thanx |
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| 16:05.45 | wols_ | k0fee: 68°C is cold for a notebook. if it stays below 100°C under load, it's fine. max Temp for notebook CPUs is usually 105°C |
| 16:06.01 | k0fee | wow |
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| 16:06.13 | k0fee | yeah i get scared when it hits around 70 |
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| 16:06.36 | locked | Would anyone here happen to be using ncmpcpp? |
| 16:07.00 | houn | locked: I have run it, and will run it again. |
| 16:07.12 | houn | (Haven't set up mpd yet today) |
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| 16:07.44 | locked | I am having an issue with running the visualizer, it says it cannot locate the /tmp/mpd.fifo |
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| 16:08.50 | houn | Does /tmp/mpd.fifo exist? |
| 16:08.51 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 16:09.08 | houn | Hi Azrael_- |
| 16:09.12 | locked | It does not exist, it also says cannot read PCM data, would you mind posting that file onto pastebin or somewhere else? |
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| 16:09.46 | houn | As I said, I don't have it installed. I suspect that file is generated by MPD with current wavform data. |
| 16:10.00 | Azrael_- | i try to use iptables-restore on startup. according to this tutorial https://wiki.debian.org/iptables i added the iptables-file in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d and made it executable. if i run it manually it works just fine but after a reboot the settings aren't in iptables. any ideas? |
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| 16:10.23 | houn | locked: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=182574 |
| 16:10.46 | houn | locked: skip down to "Additional stuff", shows the mpd.conf stanza for the fifo file |
| 16:11.07 | abrotman | Azrael_-: full path in your script |
| 16:11.11 | locked | I have already read that guide extensively, but I am still unable to get the visualizer working |
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| 16:11.38 | houn | locked: check mpd.log, is it erroring trying to make that file? |
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| 16:12.22 | Azrael_- | abrotman: this is the file content: /sbin/iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.up.rules |
| 16:12.23 | locked | I beleive what I am missing is the mpd.fifo file all together, all I did was sudo apt-get install ncmpcpp, but I think I missed something during installation. |
| 16:12.31 | Azrael_- | so with the full paths this shouldn't be a problem |
| 16:12.40 | houn | locked: You don't "create" that file. |
| 16:12.47 | locked | Oh, hmmm |
| 16:12.49 | houn | locked: It's generated by mpd while it's playing music. |
| 16:13.02 | locked | Ah, thank you for the clarification |
| 16:13.05 | houn | locked: And that will have the live data of the stream for the visualizer to use. |
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| 16:13.20 | lorenzo | if I keep replace jessie with testing in sources list |
| 16:13.23 | houn | So, if it's not there, mpd isn't creating it, ergo, check the settings and the logs. ;-) |
| 16:13.24 | lorenzo | will that give me a rolling release? |
| 16:13.45 | locked | logs do not show anything on the visualizer, I wonder what the issue is. |
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| 16:14.02 | ompaul | !rolling release |
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| 16:14.33 | ompaul | lorenzo: not a release, but it will be rolling, you need to be VERY careful around the time of the distro change to stable |
| 16:14.43 | Ast001 | nmap -sU -p 53 176.104.106.21 gave me 53/udp open|filtered domain, I guess it has been filtered... |
| 16:14.44 | lorenzo | why ompaul ? |
| 16:14.47 | ompaul | lorenzo: it is always testing |
| 16:14.48 | SynrG | locked: not only will that not give you a rolling release, it will actually accomplish zero in terms of what you have today. |
| 16:14.57 | SynrG | locked: testing == jessie for now. |
| 16:15.09 | lorenzo | SynrG, accomplish zero? |
| 16:15.15 | lorenzo | no no I'm talking about a future deployment |
| 16:15.16 | SynrG | yes. it doesn't change what you have today |
| 16:15.35 | lorenzo | instead of apt-get dist-upgrade every new major release, I was thinking about using testing in the sources |
| 16:15.42 | lorenzo | so it's always a testing |
| 16:15.50 | ompaul | lorenzo: testing is testing, it will always be testing, so if it breaks AND you can't fix it and you need it in production we will say "you shouldn't have done that" |
| 16:16.03 | SynrG | lorenzo: see the caution ompaul gave about being careful around the change to stable |
| 16:16.04 | ompaul | lorenzo: testing changes a lot more after the freeze is over |
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| 16:16.32 | lorenzo | so I need to wait some time before updating after a new release, right? |
| 16:16.32 | SynrG | it's extremely tricky. therefore, it's better to just have 'jessie' in there and let the dust settle on the change before moving forward to the new testing |
| 16:16.33 | ompaul | lorenzo: and things break, |
| 16:16.55 | locked | Ok so now I am getting a black screen for the visualizer |
| 16:17.00 | locked | I added == |
| 16:17.09 | ompaul | lorenzo: can you afford for the machine to go down and be broken for a day or so while you work it out - or while you wait on openoffice to start working again? |
| 16:17.20 | ompaul | lorenzo: if not, you can't afford to run testing. |
| 16:17.26 | lorenzo | ompaul, errr not really |
| 16:17.32 | lorenzo | ok, got it ^^ |
| 16:18.45 | lorenzo | but isn't there a need to reinstall every time there's a new major release? |
| 16:18.56 | SynrG | lorenzo: what? no ... why? |
| 16:19.09 | lorenzo | in my past experience something always broke |
| 16:19.25 | Azrael_- | any ideas left for me? |
| 16:19.25 | SynrG | i have a system that has been continuously upgraded since about 1996 |
| 16:19.27 | lorenzo | whether it was nvidia drivers, gnome (now mate), ecc |
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| 16:19.49 | lorenzo | my only good experience with upgrading is on servers, where the stuff that can go wrong is limited to a few config parsers being changed |
| 16:19.50 | wols_ | typically, debian is installed when you get a new harddisk. then it's easily upgraded for many years. I think this current debian I'm on was installed around 2005 |
| 16:19.56 | SynrG | unless you do stupid things to your system, you should never need a reinstall |
| 16:19.56 | corsu | Does any of you know why in Debian Wheezy 7.4 ULOG does not seem to work with shorewall? |
| 16:20.06 | lorenzo | wols_, that even on desktops? |
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| 16:20.28 | wols_ | yes, even on desktops. as long as you stay with debian stable it's fine. |
| 16:20.53 | SynrG | lorenzo: my continuously upgraded since '96 debian system is a desktop system. |
| 16:21.15 | lorenzo | doesn't it get full of stuff that's not needed anymore, old configs, ecc |
| 16:21.16 | SynrG | it has multiple users, each with different preferences as to which desktops they run |
| 16:21.17 | lorenzo | over time? |
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| 16:21.26 | abrotman | lorenzo: there are ways to take care of that |
| 16:21.27 | SynrG | not if you keep up good housekeeping |
| 16:21.42 | SynrG | i do semi-regular cleaning sweeps on it |
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| 16:23.22 | ompaul | lorenzo: if you keep to debian and don't get packages from different releases and places that are not debian you can keep the same box upgrading for years. Just read the release notes to get a better idea of what you need. |
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| 16:23.35 | lorenzo | I see |
| 16:23.44 | lorenzo | ompaul, should I stick with stable to be able to continuously upgrade over the years? |
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| 16:23.56 | lorenzo | or can I do that on testing too? |
| 16:24.16 | SynrG | running testing is a commitment to participate in making the next release of debian better. |
| 16:24.25 | ompaul | lorenzo: you just keep upgrading all the time on testing, you stick with stable if you want to go from release to release. |
| 16:24.41 | ompaul | lorenzo: you do one or the other, you don't install testing and never upgrade it |
| 16:24.43 | SynrG | there's no *technical* reason you can't do the same thing on testing |
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| 16:25.26 | ompaul | lorenzo: you always do a dist-upgrade all the time on testing and sid you don't do upgrades or you will find you don't have a working box, it will remove a lot a packages but it should keep going |
| 16:25.30 | SynrG | it's just that the period of time after each stable release is turbulent, so you need to be alert |
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| 16:25.46 | ompaul | and you need to be alert anyway |
| 16:26.06 | lorenzo | oh I see |
| 16:26.13 | lorenzo | so packets don't get major release bumps in stable? |
| 16:26.31 | lorenzo | like, my secondary desktop right here is on stable, installed yesterday and still has LibreOffice 3, Iceweasel 24 |
| 16:27.19 | ompaul | lorenzo: that is the idea, jumps are on release on stable, security fixes go to the current version of stable, all else should be equal unless something strange is happening. |
| 16:27.34 | locked | Would anyone know ncmpcpp would be outputting a blank screen for its visualizer? |
| 16:27.39 | plotino | dear all. Hello! |
| 16:27.42 | ompaul | lorenzo: as strange is unusual I don't have a reference point to explain it. |
| 16:27.54 | plotino | i have a question that results silly for you |
| 16:28.04 | zykotick9 | locked: did you add the requirements to mpd.conf? |
| 16:28.13 | ompaul | ,v ncmpccp |
| 16:28.14 | judd | No package named 'ncmpccp' was found in i386. |
| 16:28.15 | plotino | how to check the log files of module snd-emu10k1 start-up |
| 16:28.18 | lorenzo | ok, thanks for the help |
| 16:28.22 | ompaul | locked: cos it isn't in debian? |
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| 16:28.30 | ompaul | ,v ncmpcpp |
| 16:28.30 | plotino | i need ti to check if options have been taken into account |
| 16:28.31 | judd | Package: ncmpcpp on i386 -- squeeze: 0.5.4-1; jessie: 0.5.10-1.1; sid: 0.5.10-1.1; wheezy: 0.5.10-1.1 |
| 16:28.35 | ompaul | or maybe it is |
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| 16:28.45 | locked | I did add the requirements to the mpd.conf file |
| 16:28.46 | zykotick9 | ompaul: it is ;) |
| 16:28.49 | ompaul | locked: ignore may comment |
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| 16:28.59 | ompaul | zykotick9: my typos betray me |
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| 16:32.31 | zykotick9 | locked: two snippets of possible interest http://paste.debian.net/88038/ |
| 16:33.28 | locked | thanks, but sadly I have already added those lines of code to my mpd.conf and ncmpcpp.conf |
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| 16:33.46 | zykotick9 | locked: did you restart mpd after the change? |
| 16:34.07 | locked | I did that then restarted my whole laptop because I was so frustrated |
| 16:34.31 | zykotick9 | locked: best of luck then, i have no further suggestions |
| 16:34.46 | locked | ;~; |
| 16:35.03 | abrotman | plotino: lsmod will show you loaded modules |
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| 16:36.34 | lorenzo | talking about stable, do you have experience with mate on it? |
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| 16:37.16 | abrotman | plotino: you may also want to look in /sys/module/ |
| 16:37.22 | jhutchins | !mate |
| 16:37.22 | dpkg | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8.0 "Jessie". To install, ask me about <install mate>. http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. |
| 16:37.27 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, even though i have added myself in www-data group and set the appropriate recursive permissions, still i can't edit my files as user; vim opens them as readonly due to permissions. |
| 16:37.38 | abrotman | lorenzo: MATE isn't in Wheezy, we can't comment on the stability |
| 16:37.47 | jhutchins | lorenzo: mate isn't officially on stable at this time. |
| 16:37.49 | abrotman | ToApolytoXaos: did you logout/login ? |
| 16:37.56 | ompaul | lorenzo: there is no mate for stable, don't go there it breaks stuff use xfce or something else I've seen reports in the last 24 hours of breaking with it |
| 16:37.57 | ToApolytoXaos | ah no, not yet |
| 16:38.00 | plotino | abrotman, thanks |
| 16:38.06 | ToApolytoXaos | abrotman, is it mandatory to access changes? |
| 16:38.16 | jhutchins | ToApolytoXaos: Have you logged out and logged back in? |
| 16:38.23 | ToApolytoXaos | not yet jhutchins |
| 16:38.26 | abrotman | wonders if jhutchins reads the channel ... |
| 16:38.32 | plotino | what i need it s to understand if the options in alsa-base.conf are effectively run |
| 16:38.35 | houn | locked: Just set up mpd and ncmpcpp, visualizer's working for me. |
| 16:38.38 | lorenzo | okay, I'll go with xfce |
| 16:38.44 | jhutchins | ToApolytoXaos: That's what you need to do. |
| 16:38.47 | ToApolytoXaos | cool |
| 16:38.48 | ToApolytoXaos | cheers |
| 16:38.52 | abrotman | ToApolytoXaos: you can use the newgrp command also |
| 16:39.01 | abrotman | or not .. |
| 16:39.42 | locked | Ok I know this may sound slightly autistic, but how does one restart mpd? All I do is just mpc stop then pkill. |
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| 16:40.07 | abrotman | lorenzo: /etc/init.d/mpd restart ? |
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| 16:40.24 | SynrG | as the parent of an autistic child, i find your usage of 'autistic' offensive |
| 16:40.25 | ddman | how do i create more than 255 loop devices ? |
| 16:40.36 | houn | locked: Are you running it as a system service, or as a user (as per that crunchbang guide)? |
| 16:40.39 | ompaul | service foo restart |
| 16:40.48 | locked | I apologize, it's just habit from being on /g/ so much |
| 16:40.49 | plotino | another question is, why the module is called snd_emu10k1 in lsmod and snd-emu10k1 in alsa-bas.conf |
| 16:40.50 | plotino | ? |
| 16:41.04 | plotino | which is the correct name? |
| 16:42.13 | plotino | abrotman, im in /sys/module folder ... but i cannot find any log .. |
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| 16:42.32 | plotino | which is the complete path to llok for? |
| 16:42.37 | locked | I commented the user part so I guess user service? |
| 16:43.01 | houn | locked: You ran "mpd" on the cli? That's user. |
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| 16:43.44 | locked | then I am running it as a user |
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| 16:44.29 | locked | Should I just post both my conf files onto pastebin or something so you can see what I am messing up? |
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| 16:45.18 | houn | locked: mpd --kill |
| 16:45.23 | houn | locked: then mpd to restart |
| 16:46.03 | locked | still no dice |
| 16:46.08 | locked | Blank screen |
| 16:46.18 | houn | k, paste them for me, I'll see if they match mine. |
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| 16:46.23 | locked | :/ I am beyond repair I'm going to stop bothering everyone now, thanks anyways |
| 16:46.42 | houn | Ok, then I won't compare them! |
| 16:46.44 | houn | :> |
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| 16:52.35 | Dynetrekk | hi, what's the backup username for amanda on debian 7? |
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| 16:55.02 | abrotman | plotino: no, in that directory, you can see which options were used to load that module |
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| 16:58.48 | froze | Been a long time... There used to be a command to get the current status (how broken etc) of testing, does anyone know what I am talking about? |
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| 17:05.34 | ol__ | Hi, I recently switched over to Debian from Windows. My internet is really slow, I get around 2mbps, I got 70-80 on Windows |
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| 17:05.40 | ol__ | Does anyone have any idea why? |
| 17:05.47 | abrotman | froze: a bot command? system command? |
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| 17:05.57 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ol__ about MTU |
| 17:06.02 | ol__ | thanks |
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| 17:06.52 | plotino | abrotman, there is no way to see the correcr module options loading? |
| 17:08.06 | JyZyXEL | does debian have some tool of controlling Intel Core CPU's frequency scaling/power saving features? |
| 17:08.22 | JyZyXEL | or at least displaying information about these systems and if they are working |
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| 17:09.34 | fritsch | JyZyXEL: powertop |
| 17:10.00 | abrotman | plotino: I already told you .. |
| 17:10.48 | JyZyXEL | fritsch: it cannot however tell me what what kind frequency range my CPU has or what sleep states it supports |
| 17:13.14 | mtn | JyZyXEL: the wiki is useful: https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling |
| 17:13.27 | plotino | ok. if i write a wrong syntax for the option how can i ccheck this? |
| 17:13.32 | JyZyXEL | cpufreq-info gives me no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU |
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| 17:14.40 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: what's your cpu? not all of them have it |
| 17:14.41 | JyZyXEL | maybe i need to load some kernel modules |
| 17:14.46 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: Core i3 |
| 17:14.47 | JyZyXEL | mobile |
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| 17:15.04 | SynrG | you would think it would |
| 17:15.05 | Azrael_- | can anybody give me a hint why the iptables-restore doesn't work according to this tutorial? https://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 17:15.13 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: yeah you would think |
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| 17:16.17 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: do you have acpi disabled? |
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| 17:16.40 | JyZyXEL | hmm well i just installed the task-laptop and haven't rebooted since |
| 17:16.49 | rozie | Azrael_-: what you exactly have? (pastebin) |
| 17:16.51 | JyZyXEL | perhaps i just need a reboot |
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| 17:17.02 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: possibly |
| 17:17.04 | Azrael_- | k |
| 17:17.13 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: seems harmless anyway, even if it does nothing |
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| 17:18.22 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: no it didn't help |
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| 17:18.35 | JyZyXEL | # ls /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/ |
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| 17:18.38 | JyZyXEL | mcheck |
| 17:18.46 | JyZyXEL | does debian even ship cpufreq drivers with their kernels |
| 17:18.56 | JyZyXEL | looks like they do not |
| 17:19.01 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: dmesg | grep -i acpi |
| 17:19.11 | SynrG | sure it does |
| 17:19.23 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: sure it does |
| 17:19.34 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: lots of apci stuff |
| 17:19.42 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: to paste.debian.net, please |
| 17:20.03 | Azrael_- | rozie: this is my setup: http://pastebin.com/pyKFS7sm |
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| 17:20.23 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: http://paste.debian.net/88045/ |
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| 17:21.06 | SynrG | [ 9.982209] ACPI: Requesting acpi_cpufreq |
| 17:21.09 | SynrG | hmm |
| 17:21.31 | SynrG | [ 10.100049] ACPI: resource 0000:00:1f.3 [io 0x1840-0x185f] conflicts with ACPI region SMBI [io 0x1840-0x184f] |
| 17:21.35 | rozie | Azrael_-: cat /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables - you don't have shebang in this file |
| 17:21.38 | SynrG | maybe that's the issue? |
| 17:21.54 | Azrael_- | argh, ok |
| 17:21.54 | JyZyXEL | ah so its just broken |
| 17:22.18 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: uname -a |
| 17:22.33 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: well, maybe your hardware is too recent for the kernel you have |
| 17:22.35 | JyZyXEL | Linux foo 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:22.43 | JyZyXEL | its old hardware |
| 17:23.08 | SynrG | beats me. just exploring possibilities |
| 17:23.24 | SynrG | we could see what that error really means |
| 17:23.40 | JyZyXEL | they should introduce colors to dmesg messages so errors like that would be written in red, so someone would actually do something about them |
| 17:23.52 | SynrG | it might actually be harmless and/or unrelated to our problem |
| 17:24.15 | JyZyXEL | i guess someone actually understands what that stuff means |
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| 17:24.19 | Azrael_- | rozie: thanks, it's working now |
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| 17:25.20 | rozie | :-) |
| 17:26.43 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16029 |
| 17:27.10 | SynrG | hmmm |
| 17:27.15 | SynrG | not the same module involved, however. |
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| 17:28.42 | SynrG | i guess the same general principle applies here. the platform has a broken acpi implementation. unless some 'special' driver is written for it, there are some workarounds, but none of them very good |
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| 17:28.58 | SynrG | there's a chance it's sorted out in the backports kernel |
| 17:29.00 | SynrG | !bpo kernel |
| 17:29.01 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
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| 17:30.23 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: well does this mean my CPU is now running inefficiently without lowering frequency? |
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| 17:30.36 | SynrG | maybe |
| 17:31.14 | JyZyXEL | what about the supported sleep states, can i find out those somewhere? |
| 17:31.31 | SynrG | why bother? i think you need to fix the kernel problem first |
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| 17:31.34 | SynrG | try the backports kernel |
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| 17:32.13 | bumbar | i'm running debian on raspberry pi, and can't get terminal to work when connected on screen |
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| 17:32.24 | sekil | hello |
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| 17:33.47 | SynrG | !rpi |
| 17:33.47 | dpkg | The Raspberry Pi is an open hardware design based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine, but does not use the Pi's hardware floating point unit. Debian's <armhf> port targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 17:34.09 | SynrG | sekil: do you have a debian support question? |
| 17:34.11 | SynrG | !ask |
| 17:34.11 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 17:34.53 | sekil | What is the official way to add ppp interface to start in network scripts? |
| 17:35.02 | sekil | I come from redhat world |
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| 17:35.27 | ompaul | sekil: vi /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:36.29 | sekil | ompaul: auto tunnel? |
| 17:36.38 | ompaul | sekil: tun0 ? |
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| 17:37.11 | sekil | ompaul: no I wanna do pptp to cisco pptp server |
| 17:37.12 | ompaul | sekil: starting from the common ground of ifconfig |
| 17:37.18 | ompaul | shudders pptp |
| 17:37.23 | ompaul | insecure from the off :-) |
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| 17:38.12 | ompaul | sekil: I use openvpn, I let it do the virtual stuff, and I put my static data for my machine on it's own (not the virtual stuff) into /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:38.19 | ompaul | sekil: that is all I do |
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| 17:38.32 | sekil | ompaul: redhat/centos has vars to set for automated starting on network restart...is there such a thing here...I'm not familiar with debian scripts...I can of course do independent scripts.. |
| 17:38.49 | ompaul | sekil: put your static data into that file |
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| 17:38.56 | ompaul | sekil: hang on a sec |
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| 17:39.36 | sekil | ompaul: hm...I can do vpnc as well.. |
| 17:39.54 | ompaul | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html |
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| 17:40.14 | ea_ | Hello, is there a minimum that should be allocated or swap? |
| 17:40.22 | ea_ | Windows say 16mb |
| 17:40.30 | SynrG | 0 |
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| 17:41.25 | ea_ | SynrG, do I need to put something into /proc/sys/vm/swappiness ? Currently there is default - 60 |
| 17:41.26 | SynrG | ea_: the installer will whine at you if you don't set up swap, but you can continue without it |
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| 17:41.52 | SynrG | if you have no swap, why would that matter? |
| 17:41.56 | ea_ | I have 12GB or RAM.. so swap is not something I would want on a SSD :) |
| 17:41.58 | ompaul | ea_: that is about ram |
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| 17:44.51 | converge | does it worth it have a web server inside the enterprise ? or is it a better idea have a cloud? |
| 17:45.28 | ompaul | converge: no harm in having your local phone book - settings and other things inside the building |
| 17:45.49 | ompaul | business is blind if the pipe goes to the outside |
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| 17:47.30 | converge | ompaul: what do u wanna mean about business is blind if the pipe goes to the outside ? |
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| 17:48.05 | homecable | any one using openbox ? |
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| 17:49.46 | houn | homecable: What's the question? |
| 17:51.04 | homecable | im looking for a mini install with openbox |
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| 17:51.44 | SynrG | install debian base, xorg, openbox, and you're done. |
| 17:52.02 | houn | Yeah, just do a clean netinstall and deselect "desktop" |
| 17:52.40 | SynrG | so long as you truly understand what 'minimal' is here. that will be very, very stripped down |
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| 17:54.51 | ompaul | converge: if you have all data external when something happens like the pipe to the outside world - then the business is blind |
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| 18:14.44 | rombus | I want to setup raid 1 on a system I have running currently with no raid. It is Debian. I found a guide for this but it is really old: http://tinyurl.com/m8sx2gg Can I expect these instructions to be valid still? |
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| 18:15.19 | rombus | I basically want to add a disk to the already running system and mirror it |
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| 18:18.13 | ompaul | rombus: you could have looked a little more forward - this would be closer but I wish you luck with that http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-software-raid1-on-a-running-system-incl-grub2-configuration-debian-squeeze |
| 18:18.40 | ompaul | rombus: you want your search criteria to say debian wheezy raid 1 |
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| 18:21.55 | rombus | Ok, thanks. |
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| 18:34.29 | eb0t | im trying to record a video using cheese |
| 18:34.43 | eb0t | when i press record video the screen freezes on cheese |
| 18:34.45 | eb0t | any ideas |
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| 18:35.31 | centrx | eb0t, Look at the logs or run it in verbose mode? |
| 18:35.38 | eb0t | then i press stop recording and all the menu systems on cheese just disappear...and i have to then shut the process down manually |
| 18:35.45 | abrotman | perhaps it's taking a picture? |
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| 18:35.58 | eb0t | er...centrx how do i run it in verbose mode from terminal |
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| 18:36.03 | eb0t | sorry from gnome |
| 18:36.20 | eb0t | and which log files should i look at ...dmesg |
| 18:36.27 | eb0t | or /var/log |
| 18:36.29 | centrx | eb0t, Try running it from terminal and look at the --help for it (probably -v for verbose) |
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| 18:36.39 | eb0t | ok thanks |
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| 18:44.10 | sharkey | running wine on deb wheezy with fglrx, apps having trouble seeing opengl. it's there. am guessing i need to link... not sure what however. |
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| 18:45.03 | centrx | Does wine support opengl? |
| 18:45.20 | sharkey | seems like it does. |
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| 18:48.19 | wols_ | yes it does as long as your linux drivers do so too |
| 18:48.30 | wols_ | it even support direct3d :) |
| 18:49.22 | aguitel | how upgrade mate to 1.8 version in wheezy ? |
| 18:49.28 | flux242 | as long as his linux drivers do? |
| 18:49.53 | wols_ | aguitel: there is no mate in wheezy in any way |
| 18:50.08 | wols_ | flux242: I haven't ever seen linux direct3d drivers :P |
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| 18:50.19 | sharkey | driver i am using supports opengl |
| 18:52.20 | sekil | aguitel: by using mate repos....but I think devs have some issues ...it's not there yet...there are dependency problems |
| 18:52.43 | aguitel | sekil, thanks |
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| 18:55.33 | SynrG | aguitel, sekil: we won't support that here, though |
| 18:55.35 | SynrG | see #mate |
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| 18:57.40 | eb0t | right well cheese works great on gentoo...just not on debian wheezy |
| 18:57.46 | eb0t | i may find time to look into it |
| 18:57.52 | eb0t | but thanks for the advice earlier |
| 18:59.02 | sekil | SynrG: yeah...I heard that info from #mate |
| 18:59.45 | SynrG | or if you want a supported mate, wait for the jessie release. |
| 18:59.54 | SynrG | use something else supported in the interim (xfce or so) |
| 19:00.00 | houn | Darn. My favorite xfwm theme doesn't seem to work in wheezy. :( |
| 19:00.08 | brightkill | what address of emdebian repos? say me pls |
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| 19:01.10 | SynrG | brightkill: ask #emdebian @ irc.oftc.net ? emdebian isn't supported here |
| 19:01.45 | blumenkraft | I have an ASUS Zenbook Prime with a very annoying issue on Debian with Linux 3.13. When battery gets low )5%) it tries to sleep, but then wakes up directly after attempting to sleep |
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| 19:02.04 | blumenkraft | The laptop goes thru an endless cycle of attempted sleep and then waking up over and over again |
| 19:02.10 | blumenkraft | until it reaches 0% and just dies |
| 19:02.16 | SynrG | blumenkraft: using jessie? |
| 19:02.17 | blumenkraft | But before it hits 5% it can sleep just fine |
| 19:02.21 | blumenkraft | sid |
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| 19:02.42 | SynrG | see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net, and also, there are known unresolved issues with suspend/hibernate |
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| 19:04.43 | mcurran | Has anyone else had issue w/ the latest few "testing" net install .iso images? |
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| 19:05.18 | mcurran | I must have attempted installs about 10 times with the past 3 images and no success. Keeps freezing up when scanning cd or configuring apt. |
| 19:05.30 | jelly-home | blumenkraft: possibly it tries to hibernate instead of just suspend, and fails |
| 19:05.31 | abrotman | mcurran: right, install using wheezy and upgrade to jessie like you're supposed to |
| 19:05.59 | abrotman | mcurran: those images are meant to test the installer, not install testing |
| 19:06.00 | jelly-home | blumenkraft: and fails to notice it failed and tries anew :-) |
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| 19:06.58 | vsoftoiletpaper | hello |
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| 19:07.36 | blumenkraft | jelly-home: Good idea, but I just checked KDE systemsettings and it is set to sleep when battery is critical (actually 4% |
| 19:07.36 | blumenkraft | and hibernate is not even an option |
| 19:08.23 | SynrG | blumenkraft: #726763 and it's caught up in the whole systemd thing |
| 19:08.36 | vsoftoiletpaper | W: Failed to fetch http://apt.newrelic.com/debian/dists/newrelic/Release: Unable to find expected entry 'non-free/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) |
| 19:08.50 | vsoftoiletpaper | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:09.03 | SynrG | oh, kde? |
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| 19:09.06 | vsoftoiletpaper | is my sources.list messed up? |
| 19:09.12 | SynrG | anyway, possibly related. |
| 19:09.44 | jelly-home | vsoftoiletpaper: check the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory as well |
| 19:10.12 | vsoftoiletpaper | deb http://apt.newrelic.com/debian/ newrelic non-free |
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| 19:10.19 | vsoftoiletpaper | that's the problem |
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| 19:11.51 | vsoftoiletpaper | jelly-home so.. E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 19:11.55 | vsoftoiletpaper | E: Couldn't rebuild package cache |
| 19:12.01 | jelly-home | vsoftoiletpaper: they seem to only have binary packages for i386 and amd64, not armhf |
| 19:12.08 | vsoftoiletpaper | does it mean the aptitude update failed |
| 19:12.16 | vsoftoiletpaper | or only for new-relic? |
| 19:12.40 | jelly-home | comment out the problematic repo and try again |
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| 19:14.40 | vsoftoiletpaper | jelly-home it works that way |
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| 19:15.35 | locked | Could anybody assist me with ncmpcpp's visualization? I cannot get the visualizer to work. Here is my .mpd config file: http://pastebin.com/cS0sLux3 and here is my .ncmpcpp file:http://pastebin.com/5X8KN8ia |
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| 19:16.23 | vsoftoiletpaper | $ sudo aptitude install php5-json |
| 19:16.24 | vsoftoiletpaper | No candidate version found for php5-json |
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| 19:17.21 | abrotman | judd: versions php5-jason |
| 19:17.22 | judd | No package named 'php5-jason' was found in i386. |
| 19:17.24 | abrotman | judd: versions php5-json |
| 19:17.25 | judd | Package: php5-json on i386 -- jessie: 1.3.3-1; sid: 1.3.3-1 |
| 19:17.31 | abrotman | vsoftoiletpaper: it's not in Wheezyt |
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| 19:19.04 | vsoftoiletpaper | abrotman this application says it supports Debian 6 and 7 https://github.com/afaqurk/linux-dash#support |
| 19:19.17 | vsoftoiletpaper | and says to install php5-json |
| 19:19.24 | vsoftoiletpaper | maybe it shouldn't say that.. |
| 19:19.32 | rdz | <abrotman> vsoftoiletpaper: it's not in Wheezyt |
| 19:19.36 | rdz | yes, it is in wheezy |
| 19:19.42 | rdz | it's a virtual package, though |
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| 19:20.21 | SynrG | ,v php5-common |
| 19:20.22 | judd | Package: php5-common on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; jessie: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; experimental: 5.6.0~alpha2+dfsg-1 |
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| 19:20.35 | rdz | yeah, it's provided by php5-common |
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| 19:21.32 | vsoftoiletpaper | rdz shouldn't apt-get say that it is a virtual package and all that? |
| 19:21.49 | SynrG | apt-cache showpkg php5-json |
| 19:21.55 | rdz | you did aptitude install |
| 19:21.56 | abrotman | rdz: that package is not in Wheezy .. that's what he's trying to install. |
| 19:22.07 | abrotman | whether or not hte fucdtionality is there is a different question |
| 19:22.07 | rdz | vsoftoiletpaper, try: sudo apt-get install php5-json |
| 19:22.27 | SynrG | see Reverse Provides |
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| 19:22.58 | rdz | abrotman, does the existence of a virtual package justify the statement "that package is not in Wheezy"? |
| 19:23.05 | vsoftoiletpaper | rdz thought aptitude improved apt-get, not the other way around.. |
| 19:23.12 | rdz | there _is_ a virtual package php5-json in Wheezy |
| 19:23.21 | rdz | vsoftoiletpaper, me too |
| 19:23.48 | rdz | it seems, both have their advantages and disadvantes |
| 19:23.54 | SynrG | it's not better. it's just ... different |
| 19:24.11 | SynrG | i use both. each has their strengths |
| 19:24.30 | abrotman | rdz: Does it mean he can install it with aptitude? |
| 19:25.02 | abrotman | SynrG: You don't use Gnome anymore do you? |
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| 19:25.23 | zinx | i might try that cinnamon thing |
| 19:25.35 | zinx | but i'm pretty happy with xfce4 apart from some minor issues |
| 19:25.57 | zinx | gnome 3.x pretty much killed gnome as a DE for me :x |
| 19:26.12 | abrotman | I would rather use Gnome3, but it recently got very slow in Jessie. |
| 19:26.14 | nkuttler | gnome 2 did a pretty good job at that for me |
| 19:26.25 | abrotman | So I'm wondering if it's just me, or a wider problem |
| 19:26.34 | abrotman | (could be the age of this laptop) |
| 19:26.36 | centrx | The Gnome project has Windows upgrade treadmill syndrome |
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| 19:26.54 | zinx | gnome 2.x was annoying (especially the gtk+ getting gnome 2.x corruption), but didn't make it unusable for me |
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| 19:27.32 | zinx | gnome 3.x made it unusable as a DE. gnome-shell, at least when it was released, was completely useless to me due to how it handled multi-head setups |
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| 19:27.47 | abrotman | zinx: then don't use it, no point in whining if you don't intend to use it |
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| 19:27.56 | zinx | abrotman: i don't... |
| 19:28.05 | abrotman | Okay, so move on to another topic. |
| 19:28.07 | zinx | abrotman: and i'm not whining, just stating personal experience with it >_< |
| 19:28.23 | SynrG | abrotman: i do |
| 19:28.42 | locked | Could anybody assist me with ncmpcpp's visualization? I cannot get the visualizer to work. Here is my .mpd config file: http://pastebin.com/cS0sLux3 and here is my .ncmpcpp file: http://pastebin.com/5X8KN8ia |
| 19:29.01 | abrotman | SynrG: Have you noticed in the past week or so it's gotten slower? To the point that using gnome-terminal is something akin to typing on a 14.4 modem? |
| 19:29.06 | SynrG | abrotman: just depends which system. i use gnome-shell at work. i use gnome flashback on the multimedia system in the livingroom ... and the main gaming system of the household is on gnome-shell too |
| 19:29.09 | abrotman | maybe two weeks ago |
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| 19:29.26 | zinx | abrotman: sounds like you've got a gfx driver problem maybe |
| 19:29.26 | SynrG | nope. but i haven't kept current with updates on any of those systems |
| 19:29.45 | zinx | abrotman: or font handling - is it slow only the first time printing a character? |
| 19:29.47 | SynrG | i *have* noticed strangeness in the area of system shutdowns |
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| 19:29.50 | SynrG | very slow to respond |
| 19:29.51 | abrotman | zinx: I don't think that's it .. the driver hadn't changed. |
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| 19:30.09 | SynrG | abrotman: probably some strange stuff there in the session support |
| 19:30.11 | abrotman | zinx: and it's not just fonts |
| 19:30.12 | zinx | abrotman: hmm. there's a timeout where it collects screen updates and batches them, maybe they tweaked it |
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| 19:30.16 | SynrG | abrotman: maybe related to move to systemd |
| 19:30.17 | abrotman | or typing rather |
| 19:30.24 | SynrG | (none of my systems are on systemd yet, however) |
| 19:30.31 | abrotman | SynrG: it's quite possible .. though, LXDE has none of those problems |
| 19:31.04 | abrotman | zinx: it's overall very slow .. such as youtube skipping frames (using Adobe flash), though works fine when using LXDE |
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| 19:31.12 | zinx | abrotman: are they still using libvte? you might try another libvte terminal and see if it happens, would at least tell you if the problem's in gnome-terminal or libvte |
| 19:31.33 | abrotman | zinx: maybe read the rest of what I typed .. |
| 19:31.36 | zinx | abrotman: ahh, something wrong with compositing then, i think gnome-shell handles that |
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| 19:32.02 | zinx | abrotman: you can just switch window managers (though you'll need to add a panel of course) |
| 19:32.09 | abrotman | zinx: I'm not sure, hence my asking. I can't be sure if it's gnome or systemd hasn't started something that gnome-shell wants .. |
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| 19:32.12 | Yukiteru | hi everybody |
| 19:32.22 | zinx | abrotman: nah, compositor doesn't generally need anything started |
| 19:32.33 | abrotman | zinx: "generally" .. |
| 19:32.33 | smonchi | yo |
| 19:32.54 | zinx | abrotman: yes, well, i'd think you would be getting log output (dbus issues) if it did :) |
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| 19:33.25 | abrotman | zinx: perhaps .. I was just curious, I didn't see a bug in the BTS that seemed similar |
| 19:33.48 | abrotman | Other than general ranting such as yours :) |
| 19:33.50 | zinx | abrotman: yeah, it sounds like the compositor got changed, or something up the pipeline (Xorg, video drivers) |
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| 19:34.12 | zinx | abrotman: composition being most likely |
| 19:34.35 | zinx | i don't think gnome-shell lets you disable that, not sure |
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| 19:34.48 | abrotman | yeah, I figured that, but thought it might have been some library change I didn't notice |
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| 19:35.26 | zinx | abrotman: would be in gl / damage (or maybe render, though i don't think it uses that) related stuff |
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| 19:36.20 | zinx | abrotman: you can check that by using LXDE with a standalone compositor |
| 19:36.21 | abrotman | LXDE works well enough, but I do prefer Gnome3 |
| 19:36.28 | boing | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.50 | zinx | abrotman: e.g., compton |
| 19:36.58 | abrotman | should get out the netbook so he can debug this |
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| 19:38.15 | zinx | abrotman: also for the record, i have no problem with other people liking/using gnome3 :) |
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| 19:39.03 | zinx | everyone's got different needs and tastes, and they great thing is you can choose :) |
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| 19:39.32 | Na_Klar | this is surely a bit off-topic but I wonder how I can password protect a zip archive with encrypting also the file-list? Means: Can zip encrypt the list of containing files, too? |
| 19:39.37 | abrotman | zinx: my point was really this isn't the place for what you were trying to drivel on about :) |
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| 19:39.57 | zinx | Na_Klar: encrypt it with a generic ecryption program |
| 19:40.04 | zinx | Na_Klar: i.e., gpg or such |
| 19:40.06 | vsoftoiletpaper | my php files are not executing |
| 19:40.18 | vsoftoiletpaper | they are downloading |
| 19:40.21 | zinx | Na_Klar: zip's encryption is fairly insecure at this point anyway |
| 19:40.29 | abrotman | vsoftoiletpaper: a2enmod php |
| 19:40.35 | abrotman | or php5 .. whatever it is |
| 19:40.57 | boing | Anyone here use ncmpcpp |
| 19:41.11 | abrotman | boing: why did you change nicks? |
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| 19:41.21 | vsoftoiletpaper | abrotman thank you! |
| 19:41.26 | Na_Klar | zinx, I don't need a secure encryption. I just need the filename list to be encrypted too .. |
| 19:41.40 | boing | I meant to change nicks in another channel, I wasn't paying attention and changed it here |
| 19:41.45 | zinx | Na_Klar: zip doesn't have any provision for the central directory to be encrypted, though |
| 19:41.56 | zinx | Na_Klar: so if you use zip, the answer is you can't |
| 19:42.03 | Na_Klar | ic. thx zinx |
| 19:42.07 | vsoftoiletpaper | it's working! http://i.imgur.com/3vBxC4j.png |
| 19:42.33 | zinx | Na_Klar: you could always nest the .zip inside an encrypted zip :) |
| 19:42.45 | abrotman | locked: http://ncmpcpp.rybczak.net/contact.php |
| 19:42.48 | KamZou | Hi, i'd like to keep an azerty keyboard instead of qwerty. I did a : dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration and configured to azerty. It works but when i reboot it isn't working anymore :( any thought ? |
| 19:42.48 | zinx | Na_Klar: w/ 0 compression on the outer one |
| 19:43.23 | Na_Klar | yeah, I thought that too, but I think I look for some different program which can easily encrypt the file list .. |
| 19:43.27 | locked | thanks abrotman |
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| 19:47.46 | Na_Klar | 7zip can do. thx again and bye |
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| 20:04.35 | k0fee | i got the cpu temp down to 31C, took the lappy apart, redid the thermal compound on the i7, plus got it booting in seconds with the ssd for wheezy |
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| 20:31.10 | CdK1 | ji * |
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| 20:31.38 | CdK1 | I have a HP Envy 15 with radeon dual graphics hd8600/8700 |
| 20:32.10 | CdK1 | any driver? fglrx-driver working bad |
| 20:32.34 | CdK1 | i using radeon driver ==> linux-firmware-nonfree, any ideas? |
| 20:34.03 | CdK1 | On having used radeon it enters well to gnome-flashback, nevertheless on having minimized an application I lose the iconoc of the same one |
| 20:34.53 | SynrG | not a driver issue, then |
| 20:34.59 | SynrG | on testing? |
| 20:35.09 | CdK1 | yes, jessie |
| 20:35.10 | SynrG | i mean, losing the icon |
| 20:35.16 | SynrG | i've observed the same |
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| 20:35.30 | SynrG | seems flashback has some issues to work out still |
| 20:36.34 | CdK1 | Before using radeon it was working well |
| 20:37.16 | CdK1 | in sid fglrx work fine? |
| 20:37.25 | SynrG | "it" == gnome flashback? or gnome-shell? |
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| 20:37.32 | SynrG | i refer only to the issue of losing the icon |
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| 20:37.43 | SynrG | this seems to be a problem with the current gnome flashback |
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| 20:40.10 | CdK1 | mmm And as for the driver for my card ati dual? Does it design someone? |
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| 20:43.46 | SynrG | i don't know about the driver issues you're experiencing. sorry |
| 20:44.11 | CdK1 | SynrG, thx ;) |
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| 20:44.52 | SynrG | i've heard of far more issues with fglrx than the free driver, though |
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| 20:46.54 | CdK1 | i have probe sid! :D reboot |
| 20:47.22 | SynrG | CdK1: you're on the free driver now? can you confirm you actually do have firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
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| 21:24.42 | tables | i deleted my configs in /etc/apache2, how can i get the configs back? i tried uninstalling and reinstalling apache2 |
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| 21:24.54 | tables | i did apt-get remove and then apt-get install apache2 |
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| 21:25.58 | centrx | tables, dpkg --purge / apt-get purge will completely remove all config files (and uninstall) |
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| 21:26.17 | tremon | !tell tables -about confmiss |
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| 21:30.29 | totte | I'm running Debian 7.4 with Xen 4.1 on a machine with a single eth0 and the Intel i7 920 CPU (4 cores, 8 threads) and when running dom0 with four paravirtualized guests I get about 100 000 interrupts a minute which all go on CPU0, freezing the entire machine. I have irqbalance installed and running, is there something else I could do? |
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| 21:38.24 | hehe | wtf? debian-next req invite? well, my problem is that i get the message that network-mnager got blocked for more than 120 seconds and i can't use it. how do i fix it. i have removed it now and enabled network in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:38.41 | wols_ | hehe: irc.oftc.net, not freenode |
| 21:38.47 | hehe | after upgrade to testing/sid, i forgot to say |
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| 21:39.21 | hehe | ok :) |
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| 21:41.52 | halt | Hi there, i try to pin one package to the testing version, but i obviously not doing it right can you have a look and my preferences what' wrong here ? http://paste.debian.net/plain/88082 |
| 21:42.06 | koell | i would like to create a p2p network/server for private use only, how to do that? |
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| 21:43.22 | halt | koell: tha'ts an insetting question, but it's depends what you want to distribute with it, and how, |
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| 21:44.55 | koell | halt: i would like to distribute some public text/photos of a news site. only my friends should be able to add new data. |
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| 21:45.50 | hehe | cant read that halt, too messy :) |
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| 21:46.03 | halt | koell: look into then the BT Sync still beta but it's wornking well no server needed and you can give to your freands read only acces when you have write acces http://www.bittorrent.com/sync |
| 21:46.23 | koell | i like the idea of bt sync but it is not open source and i dont trust them |
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| 21:46.56 | halt | hehe: how can i format it better ? |
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| 21:48.31 | halt | koell: Then contribute to this project http://syncthing.net/ |
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| 21:49.41 | hehe | http://www.howtoforge.com/a-short-introduction-to-apt-pinning-p2 like that would be better for my eyes to read it |
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| 21:52.05 | hehe | do you need backports when you got testing repo? |
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| 21:53.16 | calimeonnotebook | hello |
| 21:53.52 | calimeonnotebook | i've installed debian on my pc, but i'm not able to install my wifi pen usb |
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| 21:54.40 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: what's the usb id? |
| 21:54.45 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: lsusb |
| 21:54.55 | calimeonnotebook | one moment |
| 21:54.58 | SynrG | the ####:#### |
| 21:55.01 | calimeonnotebook | wait :) |
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| 21:55.23 | SynrG | sure. just, not everyone knows what it looks like |
| 21:55.27 | halt | hehe: http://paste.debian.net/plain/88088 |
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| 21:58.16 | halt | is that better to read now ? |
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| 21:59.02 | SynrG | mixing stable + testing is not supported |
| 21:59.14 | hehe | when i used apt-pinning i followed that guide and it worked perfect, maybe its something wrong with pin-priority? try it the way in the link i posted |
| 21:59.33 | calimeonnotebook | SynrG: i must write on terminal :lsusb? |
| 21:59.47 | houn | Hrm. |
| 22:00.00 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: install usbutils if you don't have it already |
| 22:00.03 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: lsusb |
| 22:00.15 | houn | For some reason, browsing DeviantArt keeps making iceweasel use 100% of my CPU and it stops responding. |
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| 22:00.50 | SynrG | houn: maybe due to this? http://syn.theti.ca/2014/02/28/invisible-css-animations-on-iceweasel-consuming-cpu/ |
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| 22:03.02 | houn | SynrG: Maybe, but I can't switch tabs when it gets unresponsive, which is listed in that as a mitigation. |
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| 22:04.33 | calimeonnotebook | i've done lsubs SynrG , now? sorry i'm a beginner :) |
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| 22:05.46 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: lsusb should tell you a list of usb devices. cut-and-paste the line for your wifi usb device |
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| 22:06.21 | calimeonnotebook | 0df6:005b SynrG |
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| 22:06.52 | SynrG | houn: that's not listed "as a mitigation" but as a proof that it was specific to some sites |
| 22:07.16 | SynrG | houn: apply the "easy fix" or the more sophisticated one with userContent.css |
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| 22:08.15 | SynrG | houn: the issue (if this is your issue) is that the animations run even though they are hidden. it's worse on sites with *lots* of these ... |
| 22:08.35 | SynrG | the animations are things like "loading" spinners |
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| 22:08.41 | calimeonnotebook | device: 002 bus 001 |
| 22:08.54 | SynrG | the pages are designed to have them hidden usually, and only unhidden when actually loading |
| 22:09.31 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: the whole line. that doesn't tell me the number i described, which looks like ####:#### |
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| 22:09.51 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: it's the one after "ID" |
| 22:09.57 | calimeonnotebook | 0df6:005b SynrG |
| 22:10.08 | SynrG | great. one moment |
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| 22:10.55 | SynrG | https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#r8712u |
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| 22:11.42 | SynrG | so it should be supported by the wheezy kernel |
| 22:11.48 | SynrG | just plugging the device in should load the module |
| 22:11.56 | calimeonnotebook | so what should i do? |
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| 22:12.17 | tables | how do i find what package a file belongs to? |
| 22:12.23 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: that wiki page also says "Non-free firmware is required for all drivers, which can be provided by installing the firmware-realtek package. |
| 22:12.28 | tables | like /usr/sbin/apache2ctl |
| 22:12.41 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: you need to make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list has "non-free" included |
| 22:12.50 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: then apt-get install firmware-realtek |
| 22:12.53 | xand | tables: dpkg -S |
| 22:13.02 | Ontological | I have a bind server set up for DNS. It's working quite nicely. The only problem is that I have to set all of the DNS records. I was hoping to be able to just over-write some values and have my DNS server do lookups if they dont exist. For example, if I have example.tld set up and I have a real A record for banana.example.tld, I *MUST* include it in my db.example.tld file, instead of when it doesn't have a listing the server asking a re |
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| 22:13.26 | hehe | anyone know how to fix 'network-manager blocked for more than 120 seconds'? |
| 22:14.29 | houn | SynrG: Seems that it was actually something with the site trying to load flash ads. I installed flashplayer and it's behaving now. |
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| 22:14.57 | SynrG | houn: yay. consider also using a flash blocker |
| 22:15.14 | SynrG | houn: it makes resource usage much more manageable |
| 22:15.32 | SynrG | houn: was it using gnash and that was driving CPU through the roof? |
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| 22:15.43 | houn | SynrG: No, I didn't have anything installed. |
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| 22:16.16 | houn | I think it was me opening a bunch of tabs, each wanting to ask me to install flash. |
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| 22:16.20 | houn | >.> |
| 22:16.22 | SynrG | ah |
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| 22:16.33 | houn | Oh, wait, never mind. |
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| 22:16.36 | houn | It just did it again. |
| 22:16.38 | hehe | no one? :( |
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| 22:18.03 | owen1 | how to restart x? (i only have i3 as my WM) |
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| 22:18.42 | abrotman | how did you start it ? |
| 22:19.00 | hehe | quit i3 and start it again? |
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| 22:19.43 | tables | how do i remove a package and all it's dependencies? |
| 22:19.52 | tables | dependencies from when i first installed the package |
| 22:20.15 | owen1 | abrotman: startx |
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| 22:21.08 | owen1 | hehe: i tried mod+shift+r which is stands for 'restart in place' but i don't think it's restatring x |
| 22:21.31 | hehe | try quit instead |
| 22:22.10 | owen1 | hehe: ok. but i am not sure if i'll be able to use my computer after that. 1 sec. trying. |
| 22:22.16 | anoob | i don't understand what i'm missing to compile xfce's squeeze: http://pastebin.com/0sL1fyyG |
| 22:22.41 | owen1 | trying Mod1+Shift+e |
| 22:22.57 | hehe | you start it with startx, right? |
| 22:23.10 | petern_ | hrmm... weirdness in nautilus... double click on ntfs partition "unable to mount location, not authorized"... right click on partition -> open, get prompted for password... |
| 22:24.08 | calimeonnotebook | SynrG: , i've a problem, my pc debian it's not in lan, in this chat i've writting with this puppylinux notebook, how can i do to download realtek here with the notebook? |
| 22:24.41 | abrotman | dpkg: tell calimeonnotebook about firmware images |
| 22:25.41 | SynrG | abrotman: well, he already has an install ... just needs the firmware |
| 22:25.49 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: you can just grab the deb, put it on a usb |
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| 22:26.49 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: here's a direct link: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb |
| 22:27.14 | SynrG | calimeonnotebook: then just dpkg -i firmware-realtek*.deb |
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| 22:28.29 | calimeonnotebook | so i've downloaded it http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb, then i copy it in a usb pen then i write dpkg -i firmware-realtek*.deb? |
| 22:28.49 | abrotman | yes |
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| 22:29.23 | owen1 | hehe: yeah. started with startx. after exiting i3 (mod+shift+e) my screen become black. nothing responded. not even ctrl+alt+f2-f8 |
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| 22:30.12 | owen1 | the main reason i want to restart x is because whenever i try to connect external hdmi monitor i have to restart which is consuming too much time. |
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| 22:30.25 | owen1 | i thought that restarting x will let me connect the monitor. |
| 22:30.55 | owen1 | in mac you can connect an external monitor regardless if it was connected during boot. |
| 22:31.13 | owen1 | i wonder why debian is different. or maybe it's only me? |
| 22:31.41 | hehe | i don't know anything about that i guess :) |
| 22:31.45 | grubles | hello, im on stable and am looking to install qtbase5-dev |
| 22:31.49 | grubles | any help? |
| 22:31.58 | grubles | "E: Package 'qtbase5-dev' has no installation candidate |
| 22:31.58 | grubles | " |
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| 22:33.15 | owen1 | hehe: np. thanks! |
| 22:33.42 | hehe | http://i3wm.org/docs/multi-monitor.html |
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| 22:36.58 | calimeonnotebook | SynrG: , i've copied the file in desktop |
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| 22:37.26 | calimeonnotebook | now i must use the terminal? or must click on the file? |
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| 22:39.44 | owen1 | I can't see chinese in xterm. I copy chinese characters from a website and see blocks instead. I tried this http://www.fedorenchik.org/tooltips/xterm_ttf_utf8_chinese.xhtml and http://superuser.com/questions/526669/can-i-input-chinese-in-my-xterm but got no results. |
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| 22:49.14 | calimeonnotebook | SynrG doesn't work: file or directory not existing |
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| 22:51.15 | dbrown_ | hi |
| 22:51.52 | calimeonnotebook | i've clicked on it |
| 22:51.54 | s5s | Hi guys. I have a 150GB SSD on my laptop that's running windows because IT in our company doesn't support Linux. Anyway, I'm planning to dual boot. I haven't used debian testing in a while. Last time I checked (several months ago) it didn't come with a LiveCD. Is this the case? I need some tool to set up partitioning. At the moment I've freed 50GB for Linux but the NTFS partition needs to be split. |
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| 22:52.36 | dbrown_ | how can i get an fstab mount to be readable by root |
| 22:52.56 | dbrown_ | excuse me writable by users other then root |
| 22:52.59 | s5s | I have a few LiveCDs around so presumably if debian testing doesn't have a LiveCD I can load one of them and start gparted and see what's what. |
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| 22:55.06 | s5s | but let me first double check. I've done this before but long long time ago so i don't remember if it's true - I can resize a NTFS partition which is in use right? I remember gparted could do this |
| 22:55.22 | calimeonnotebook | now works |
| 22:55.34 | calimeonnotebook | thanks at all of you |
| 22:55.36 | calimeonnotebook | :) |
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| 22:56.49 | dbrown_ | i have an fstab mount that is read write execute by root. how can i either change the user to anyone or make it writable by other users? |
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| 22:57.06 | dvs | s5s: Why does it have to be a testing Live CD? |
| 22:58.39 | s5s | dvs: because I need to resize the NTFS partition to free some space for the linux partition. I actually have always liked Debian's installer but I need linux to resize a partition (I don't know how to do this in Windows) |
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| 23:00.18 | dvs | s5s: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
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| 23:01.38 | s5s | dvs: thabks |
| 23:01.44 | s5s | *thanks :) |
| 23:01.58 | dvs | but it isn't the TESTING live CD |
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| 23:06.02 | hehe | would you suggest not to set vm.dirty_ratio too 100? (8gb ram + ssd) |
| 23:06.03 | jhutchins | s5s: Stable comes as a live CD and I would recommend it for a work laptop. |
| 23:06.16 | hehe | is it bad? |
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| 23:06.46 | jhutchins | dvs: Which is why we asked why you needed testing, and your answer indicates that you don't. |
| 23:06.59 | jhutchins | dvs: testing is for the purpose of testing new packages. |
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| 23:08.26 | dvs | ???? |
| 23:08.31 | jhutchins | owen1: It kinda depends on the monitor, and how it interacts with the system when you connect it. Some monitors it's just like plugging in a lamp, the system doesn't know you've done anything. You have to trigger something that's going to scan the port and see that something's connected. |
| 23:08.35 | dvs | you mean s5s |
| 23:08.50 | jhutchins | dvs: Probably. |
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| 23:12.15 | hehe | or set it at for example 2? to stop seeing those x got blocked for more than 120 seconds |
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| 23:18.09 | owen1 | jhutchins: interesting. hopefuly my next monitor will be smarter (: |
| 23:18.18 | owen1 | and now i can stop blaming debian |
| 23:19.59 | SynrG | it's not necessarily the monitor's fault |
| 23:20.42 | hehe | no one knows how to get around this? |
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| 23:21.22 | SynrG | e.g. |
| 23:21.24 | SynrG | [ 22.641429] radeon 0000:02:00.0: DVI-I-1: EDID block 0 invalid. |
| 23:21.39 | SynrG | the monitor *tries* to exchange EDID info but fails |
| 23:22.11 | SynrG | hehe: in this situation i just make an xorg.conf with modes in it that i need |
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| 23:23.14 | hehe | ok so for me, network-manager get that message after upgrade to sid, and i can make it work how you mean? :) |
| 23:23.42 | SynrG | oops, you're not the one with that issue. that's for owen1 |
| 23:23.53 | hehe | no problem |
| 23:24.07 | SynrG | as for you, you keep asking over and over. clearly nobody knows. asking more times will not help :) |
| 23:24.40 | hehe | well if i don't probably no one ever will see the question either |
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| 23:35.03 | Kingsy | how would I go about mounting a network share to a folder using mount ? |
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| 23:35.35 | SynrG | windows share? cifs |
| 23:35.39 | Kingsy | yeah |
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| 23:35.55 | Kingsy | I tried mount -t smbfs but it says thats an unknown fs |
| 23:36.21 | bo` | try -t cifs |
| 23:36.30 | SynrG | see the mount.cifs man page |
| 23:36.37 | SynrG | no, wait |
| 23:37.14 | SynrG | yeah, in cifs-utils |
| 23:37.24 | Kingsy | bo`: am I right in thinking you specify the mount remote location like //192.168.0.6/mnt/Whatever/ ? |
| 23:38.50 | SynrG | Kingsy: as i said, mount.cifs tells about this |
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| 23:39.51 | SynrG | yes, it's //server/share notation |
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| 23:42.42 | Kingsy | SynrG: it just says its not a valid block device :( |
| 23:42.49 | SynrG | you can also use smbclient -L //server |
| 23:43.00 | SynrG | this will give you a list of browsable shares at that server |
| 23:43.22 | SynrG | Kingsy: you didn't specify cifs, though, perhaps? |
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| 23:43.55 | Kingsy | SynrG: the command I issued was mount -t cifs |
| 23:43.58 | SynrG | mount -t cifs //server/share /mountpoint |
| 23:44.07 | Kingsy | yep |
| 23:44.26 | SynrG | so use smbclient -L //server and confirm that the share is what you think it is |
| 23:44.30 | Kingsy | sure 1 sec |
| 23:44.43 | SynrG | is the username for the network the same as your unix username? |
| 23:44.56 | SynrG | if not, use -Uusername |
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| 23:45.51 | pycoderf | hello. can anyone help with an ubuntu problem? i know they have a channel but it seems dead |
| 23:46.00 | SynrG | !based on debian |
| 23:46.00 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 23:46.07 | Kingsy | SynrG: now it says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //OFFICE/Media/ |
| 23:46.35 | SynrG | Kingsy: "now", after trying what? |
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| 23:47.12 | Kingsy | sorry after I made a correction to the remote path |
| 23:47.19 | corsu | Any info why in Debian Wheezy 7.4 ULOG does not seem to work with shorewall? Does ULOG even work on wheezy or has it been replaced with somting else? |
| 23:47.19 | Kingsy | perhaps I don't have cifs installed.. |
| 23:47.23 | SynrG | Kingsy: do you have cifs-utils installed, as i said earlier? |
| 23:47.48 | SynrG | Kingsy: that not only contains mount.cifs man page but the tool itself :) |
| 23:47.55 | SynrG | won't get very far without it |
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| 23:48.25 | Kingsy | let me double check ;) |
| 23:48.46 | pycoderf | anyone know why normal users get the following upon login "open: Permission denied" in .xsession-errors |
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| 23:52.47 | SynrG | corsu: i don't know shorewall and i don't even know ULOG, but from a quick google i gather it's some netfilter thing ... |
| 23:52.56 | SynrG | maybe just don't have the right module loaded? |
| 23:54.13 | SynrG | hmm, or maybe it is obsolete |
| 23:54.13 | corsu | I have installed: apt-get install ulogd |
| 23:54.18 | SynrG | i don't see any current mention of it |
| 23:54.40 | corsu | I have howto for shorewall and previous version debian |
| 23:54.46 | corsu | maybe somting has changed |
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| 23:55.46 | SynrG | that package description links here http://www.netfilter.org/projects/ulogd/ |
| 23:56.34 | SynrG | Documentation > FAQ maybe for starters? |
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| 23:57.10 | SynrG | nah, i get promptly lost there :) |
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| 23:58.54 | corsu | http://en.acidc0re.info/linux/howto-install-and-setup-shorewall-firewall-for-proxmox/ one howto I found but its for Squeeze |
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| 23:59.17 | corsu | and good does not seems to find anyting wheezy |
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| 23:59.33 | corsu | like it seems cannot find anyting anymore with google |
