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| 00:18.50 | AngryAdmin | ZFS on Jessie, any insights? |
| 00:20.00 | AngryAdmin | read it has been broken since 3.12 came along, however, I ould not get it working in 3.11 either :/ |
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| 00:22.59 | xparanoik | AngryAdmin freebsd has a very good implementation of ZFS, if you are willing to switch |
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| 00:35.51 | thoonai | hey, I'm trying to understand why this fails. Anyone any idea for me please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7154036/ |
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| 00:37.21 | thoonai | sorry for using ubuntu.paste, I'm working simultanious on debian and ubuntu ;) |
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| 00:38.45 | centrx | What is it? |
| 00:39.03 | centrx | AngryAdmin, Try 3.13? |
| 00:39.13 | centrx | thoonai, What is that paste of? |
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| 00:39.42 | Brigo | virtualbox, i guess |
| 00:39.57 | thoonai | centrx: my file in /etc/sudoers.d/ |
| 00:40.13 | centrx | Oh I'm not familiar with sudo |
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| 00:41.19 | thoonai | centrx: no problem, me neither, thats why I'm stuck xD |
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| 00:42.15 | themill | debian would normally just pop you in the vboxusers group rather than jumping through those sorts of hoops |
| 00:42.24 | ZitZ | i'm having trouble with mupen64plus detecting sdl joysticks, my laptop finds the joystick, my HTPC does not. Both running sid and 64 bit. |
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| 00:43.34 | thoonai | themill: yeah Im trying to circumvent this because I don't want the user being in vboxusers |
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| 00:45.30 | thoonai | themill: I want a stub script to restrict the users |
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| 00:52.42 | thoonai | uhm. I hope I didn't scared all away ._. |
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| 00:56.32 | thoonai | so |
| 00:56.59 | thoonai | I feel a bit guilty ... and my problem is sadly unsolved :/ |
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| 01:55.00 | monkwitdafunk | Hi debian channel |
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| 01:56.50 | monkwitdafunk | I am not sure if the repositories now include gnome disk utility because i believe the packages rely on wget |
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| 01:59.53 | centrx | monkwitdafunk, packages.debian.org/gnome-disk-utility |
| 02:00.17 | monkwitdafunk | Yes. I know |
| 02:01.05 | monkwitdafunk | The same example i suspect is just like trying to get the arial font on linux |
| 02:01.05 | fellipe | hi! I am trying to compile (debian 7 64bits) php latest version with:./configure --with-apxs2=/usr/local/apache2/bin/apxs --with-mysql --enable-bcmath --enable-mbstring --enable-sockets --with-gd --enable-libxml --enable-xmlwriter --enable-xmlreader --enable-ctype --enable-session --with-gettext=/usr/lib --with-freetype-dir=/usr/lib/ --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/lib/ --with-zlib --with-mcrypt --with-bz2 --enable-zip --enable-zip --with-mysqli --enable-embedded- |
| 02:01.07 | fellipe | mysqli --with-curl --enable-soap But when I include --with-soap I get: libcrypto.so.1.0.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation |
| 02:01.11 | fellipe | please helpp |
| 02:01.41 | fellipe | I googled a lot but could not find the solution |
| 02:02.22 | cafuego | headdesks |
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| 02:03.14 | centrx | fellipe, Why are you compiling PHP? |
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| 02:08.10 | fellipe | centrx: because debian repo's are too old. And when I compile it, I am able to add every support the programmers ask me |
| 02:08.56 | fellipe | centrx: I keep the downloaded php source, and I recompile it everytime I need to add some new feature, in this case, soap |
| 02:09.35 | Brigo | ,v php5 |
| 02:09.36 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; jessie: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; experimental: 5.6.0~alpha2+dfsg-1 |
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| 02:10.29 | centrx | fellipe, php-soap is in Debian |
| 02:10.38 | centrx | fellipe, You are probably missing some header files related to crypto |
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| 02:11.38 | centrx | fellipe, https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libcrypto.so.1.0.0 |
| 02:11.47 | xparanoik | not old, it's just conservative in bringing newer versions to stable |
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| 02:12.12 | centrx | fellipe, Also in the future I would recommend compiling from the Debian source packages that are in the testing distribution |
| 02:12.14 | centrx | dpkg: tell fellipe about ssb |
| 02:12.52 | fellipe | centrx: humm... let me try... |
| 02:13.28 | fellipe | centrx: I am affraid to install deb packages and then, mess the things I've compiled from source.. |
| 02:14.16 | centrx | fellipe, Can't be any less safe than running "make install" |
| 02:14.51 | centrx | fellipe, If you transition to doing it for all packages, it may make your life easier |
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| 02:15.48 | fellipe | centrx: sorry for my english. I did not understand your last phrase with begins with if you transition.. |
| 02:15.53 | fellipe | centrx: doing what? |
| 02:16.22 | centrx | fellipe, Use Debian source packages |
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| 02:17.04 | fellipe | centrx: like this link you gave me? |
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| 02:17.39 | centrx | fellipe, That link is a package you can probably install without compiling. |
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| 02:18.02 | centrx | fellipe, That link will solve your error if the error is that libcrypto.so.1.0.0 is missing or corrupted |
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| 02:23.09 | fellipe | centrx: hum.. I am running make test again... let me see |
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| 02:34.13 | fellipe | centrx: well. didn't solve :( |
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| 02:34.41 | fellipe | centrx: http://pastebin.com/kD3FeNUc |
| 02:34.48 | fellipe | centrx: do you mind to take a little look? |
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| 02:35.50 | centrx | fellipe, What is the output of: dpkg -l libssl1.0.0 |tail -1 |
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| 02:36.26 | fellipe | centrx: I found this too: http://tech.barwick.de/linux/crypto-set-id-callback-error-compiling-php-with-curl.html |
| 02:36.56 | fellipe | centrx: ii libssl1.0.0:amd64 1.0.1e-2+deb7u4 amd64 SSL shared libraries |
| 02:38.07 | fellipe | centrx: trying to follow the tip on that forum |
| 02:38.17 | centrx | fellipe, When was the last time you compiled PHP? |
| 02:38.29 | fellipe | centrx: passed! |
| 02:38.47 | fellipe | centrx: I've compiled yesterday I guess |
| 02:39.23 | centrx | fellipe, So it worked yesterday, without --with-soap ? Does it work today without --with-soap ? |
| 02:39.37 | fellipe | centrx: I followed that link before talk to you, but only after installing that package you told me, it passed now |
| 02:39.49 | centrx | oh ok |
| 02:39.53 | centrx | So it's working now |
| 02:39.55 | fellipe | centrx: yeah. I added --with-soap today and did not work |
| 02:40.23 | fellipe | centrx: well, make test still running, but passed that error part |
| 02:41.04 | fellipe | centrx: I guess some people have this kind of ideas when are sleeping heh |
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| 03:03.42 | leftist | evening. now can i determine the version of wordpress in the repository? |
| 03:05.28 | themill | leftist: apt-cache policy $package |
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| 03:11.07 | sssslang | hi there. I wonder how to apply the changes to /etc/network/interface from command line? could someone help me? |
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| 03:48.58 | average | so I'm trying to set up an iptables rule to allow traffic on the loopback |
| 03:49.02 | average | so far I've tried these two |
| 03:49.12 | average | iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -s 127.0.0.1 -j ACCEPT |
| 03:49.12 | average | iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -d 127.0.0.1 -j ACCEPT |
| 03:49.15 | average | iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT |
| 03:49.16 | average | iptables -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT |
| 03:49.36 | average | none of these two seems to allow me to listen/connect to stuff on 127.0.0.1 |
| 03:49.48 | average | I'll keep trying |
| 03:50.48 | average | does iptables assume TCP if I don't tell it ? hmm.. |
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| 03:57.35 | eipieqng1 | I am a newbie for all this stuff but when I had to work with iptables, I've used fwbuilder. |
| 03:57.48 | eipieqng1 | It actually comes with a rule that does what you describe |
| 03:58.39 | eipieqng1 | you can see the output of fwbuilder too see how it makes the calls |
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| 04:04.39 | wreckluse | is there a way to install/boot/run debian from a usb stick (not a "live" cd img)? |
| 04:05.06 | wreckluse | and if so could one point me to a/some resources? |
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| 04:12.02 | aqib | i downloaded debian 7.4 amd64 DVD but its not booting in virtual box |
| 04:13.39 | somiaj | aqib: what dvd did you download? There are multiple dvd images and only the first one is bootable |
| 04:13.52 | somiaj | also are yo ujust trying to boot from the iso, or did you do something to the .iso you downloaded |
| 04:14.05 | aqib | i download updated version of DVD1 |
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| 04:14.21 | aqib | i am booting from iso |
| 04:14.53 | average | eipieqng1: I try to avoid these easy-to-use firewalls |
| 04:15.03 | average | I was able to get it working |
| 04:15.25 | average | the part that is hard when using iptables for me, is testing that a rule I wrote is actually what I meant |
| 04:15.35 | average | but I usually do that through telnet/netcat |
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| 04:15.45 | average | I am a bit curious how other people do that |
| 04:15.52 | aqib | debian-update-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
| 04:16.00 | aqib | this one i downloaded |
| 04:16.05 | SirLagz | average: I've never had an issue with iptables and localhost stuff |
| 04:16.20 | average | for example if I had a big big firewall with all sorts of rules, should I write "unit-tests" for that firewall with a lot of different netcat/telnet commands with timeout and check their output to make sure I did what I meant ? |
| 04:16.54 | eipieqng1 | average, I understand. But for the sake of learning you can see what it generates. May both solve your answer and casue you to look at things differently |
| 04:16.56 | somiaj | aqib: down load the actual dvd (not the update), my guess is that only contains the files that were updated since debian 7.0 and not a full bootable system. |
| 04:17.37 | aqib | somiaj r u kidding me it's 4.5 GB |
| 04:17.51 | average | eipieqng1: oh, for sure, I would look at what some generator produces in order to understand what is the right way to do something. but ultimately I would really like to use iptables |
| 04:17.53 | somiaj | ageis: https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#update-cd |
| 04:17.57 | SirLagz | aqib: then download the CD iso instead ? |
| 04:17.59 | Rusty1 | average: there's a #Netfilter channel , might try there if nobody here can help |
| 04:17.59 | somiaj | aqib: ^^ |
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| 04:18.14 | somiaj | aqib: if you don't want the full dvd, grab cd1 or even the netinstall image. Both can boot then only download the files you want from apt |
| 04:18.17 | aqib | after downloading 4.5GB u r saying me download again 4.5GB |
| 04:18.19 | average | eipieqng1: I mean there's something in Ubuntu called ufw for example(which IMHO is really a mess) and I try at all costs to avoid ufw |
| 04:18.37 | average | Rusty1: yes, sorry, I will consider that option |
| 04:19.04 | somiaj | aqib: well I gave you a link that explains what that dvd is, should have done more research. It is just an update for someone who wants to download the updated packages and install on an offline machine. It is not ment to be the installer |
| 04:20.23 | SirLagz | aqib: then download a CD ISO if you don't want to download another DVD |
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| 04:22.11 | aqib | why can't i boot from updated DVDversion |
| 04:22.42 | SirLagz | aqib: did you read the link somiaj linked you ? |
| 04:23.06 | somiaj | well I gave it to ageis as a bad tab completin, but it is up there |
| 04:23.13 | ageis | =P |
| 04:23.19 | SirLagz | lol |
| 04:23.45 | somiaj | that is not designed to even be a full installer, it is designed to only be the packages that have upgraded since 7.0. It is enterially possible that many core packages have not upgraded and are not even available on that dvd. It would make no sense to make it bootable |
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| 04:24.42 | aqib | ok if i download cd can i install packages from updated DVD |
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| 04:25.16 | somiaj | correct, you can use apt-cdrom to scan that dvd. Note it may not contain all the dependencies needed to install some software. Any reason why you can't just install from the internet? |
| 04:25.20 | eipieqng1 | aver |
| 04:25.55 | somiaj | so depending on what you want to install you many need more than cd1 and that update dvd. It is ment as an update to the dvd set of 7.0 so you don't have to download a new dvd set, but only the updates. |
| 04:25.56 | eipieqng1 | average, yeah ufw is funky. |
| 04:26.30 | eipieqng1 | fwbuilder uses iptables and just generates the commands for iptables |
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| 04:26.56 | eipieqng1 | but I know very little, if you can do that stuff by hand, my respects |
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| 04:27.04 | aqib | i dnt have any problem in installing from internet |
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| 04:27.57 | somiaj | aqib: then you can get away with downloading the netinstaller (400megs) and install directally from the internet the packages you want. |
| 04:28.21 | somiaj | actually maybe the net installer is closer to 300megs, it keeps getting bigger, I know it is about half a cd |
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| 04:28.58 | aqib | i will see then i have not tried this before |
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| 04:29.22 | somiaj | !tell aqib about firmware images |
| 04:29.44 | andry | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 04:29.48 | andry | :P |
| 04:29.58 | aqib | thanks |
| 04:30.05 | somiaj | aqib: since debian does not ship with non-free firmware that is really the biggest issue with the netinstaller. That dpkg factoid I sent you is for unoffical images in the case you use non-free firmware. I don't htink this will be a problem in virtual box. |
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| 04:31.56 | aqib | after installing through net should i do apt on DVD |
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| 04:32.34 | somiaj | you should have the current updated packages including all security updates from security.debian.org if you use the net and in that case that dvd won't be needed. |
| 04:33.18 | aqib | ok |
| 04:33.18 | somiaj | I personally would just igore it, you could use it if you wanted to save some download time for packages that may already be on that dvd. NOt sure if apt would use a cd source over internet source (if the versions are the same) as I just do evertying on the net |
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| 04:42.51 | andry | do you know any way to calculate tcp syn per second? |
| 04:43.12 | andry | maybe tcpdump and grep? |
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| 04:45.46 | andry | i think 20 pkg/s is too little, right? thats my routers default |
| 04:47.08 | aqib | What are these small CDS |
| 04:47.17 | andry | netinst? |
| 04:47.43 | aqib | ya |
| 04:48.03 | andry | netinst isos come with a basic set of packages for the installer .. you need an inet connection for these, the installer downloads all other packages from a mirror then |
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| 05:13.32 | sasa | I want to install quassel irc client by apt-get install ,but why vlc is also to be install |
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| 05:16.41 | shingouz | sasa: apparently, one of the depends is phonon which depends on phonon-backend-vlc |
| 05:16.55 | themill | sasa: so it can go "ding" at you most likely. You should be able to install phonon-backend-null instead. |
| 05:17.51 | sasa | themill: thanks very much cc shingouz |
| 05:18.30 | themill | (aptitude why is your friend) |
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| 06:14.12 | shawnbon206 | can you daisy chain ssh sessions? can you ssh from pc 1 to pc 2 to pc 3 when pc 3 can connect to pc 2 but not pc 1? |
| 06:14.50 | cheapie | shawnbon206: You /should/ be able to. |
| 06:14.52 | shingouz | shawnbon206: yes, if they all have the appropriate software |
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| 06:19.28 | c4h | shawnbon206: i use this ~/.ssh/config |
| 06:19.36 | c4h | Host pc3 |
| 06:19.43 | c4h | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.46 | c4h | then i run ssh pc3, and it asks me first for the password for pc2 and then for the password for pc3 |
| 06:21.38 | shawnbon206 | hmmm any benefit to just doing it manually? or it wont work any other way? |
| 06:22.21 | shingouz | shawnbon206: if you only have to do it once, do it manually. if you have to do it often, go with the config |
| 06:22.34 | shawnbon206 | oh i see |
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| 06:23.07 | themill | shawnbon206: it's the xkcd.com/1205 advantage |
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| 06:24.25 | c4h | shawnbon206: ssh -o ProxyCommand="ssh pc2 -W %h:%p" pc3 |
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| 06:32.42 | tapout | i rebooted, and now my /home is missing; http://pastebin.com/9vLun3fr |
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| 06:37.34 | tapout | !whatprovides lsraid |
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| 06:43.12 | tapout | what's the command that shows all the files a package installed? |
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| 06:44.16 | c4h | tapout: dpkg -S |
| 06:44.39 | c4h | sorry |
| 06:44.42 | c4h | dpkg -L |
| 06:44.42 | dpkg | Files in package c4h-pr0n: /srv/c4h-pr0n/c4h.jpg |
| 06:45.33 | tapout | ah i see, thank you |
| 06:45.43 | tapout | c4h, any idea where lsraid would be? |
| 06:45.48 | tapout | i'm trying to figure out this mdadm problem |
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| 06:48.56 | c4h | don't know |
| 06:49.15 | c4h | there doesn't seem to be any package with lsraid |
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| 06:51.09 | lxsameer | hey guys, I dist-upgraded to testing, but i get an error about "can not unpacking udev_204_8_amd64" , i tried to removed the cache package and install it again but same error |
| 06:53.52 | themill | I bet that isn't the error message. |
| 06:53.53 | tapout | any mdadm pros here? I cannot fix my raid :( |
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| 06:55.18 | lxsameer | themill: yeah you are right, I find this in logs "trigger ci file contains unknown directive `interest-noawait`" |
| 06:55.38 | themill | what version of dpkg do you have installed there? |
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| 06:58.39 | lxsameer | themill: 1.15.8.13 |
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| 06:59.16 | themill | so umm... you're trying to mix squeeze (oldstable) and jessie (testing)...? |
| 06:59.26 | lxsameer | themill: yeah |
| 06:59.43 | lxsameer | themill: dist-upgrading |
| 07:00.04 | themill | you can't skip releases like that |
| 07:00.25 | lxsameer | themill: really ? is there any solution for me ? |
| 07:01.02 | themill | don't skip release... |
| 07:01.15 | themill | upgrade from squeeze to wheezy and then wheezy to jessie. |
| 07:01.24 | themill | (or perhaps you should stick with wheezy) |
| 07:01.32 | lxsameer | themill: ah ok thanks |
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| 07:08.41 | tapout | mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb1 | mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy |
| 07:09.03 | tapout | in state of panic, lost my /home :( |
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| 07:15.50 | borgu | re |
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| 07:18.26 | kom | I am confused... i have a package installed, but no /var/lib/dpkg/info/package.md5sums file.. some how dpkg-query --showformat='${Conffiles}' package is showing an incorrect md5sum of a file that the package is responsbile for... where is it getting this md5sum from ? |
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| 07:19.45 | kom | i replaced the package's config file which i want the md5sum for with a pristine copy but it still gives out the incorrect md5sum |
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| 08:51.21 | nf7 | Does anyone know where I can download the "Monospace" font that is used in Debian? I would like to use it on my OSX machine, but it's a bit hard to Google because of the nature of its name. Thanks |
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| 08:58.02 | petern_ | nf7, it's just an alias. |
| 08:58.05 | OpenTokix | nf7: you want that specific font, not a good monospace font? |
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| 09:01.42 | petern_ | Hmm, can't remember how to find out what the alias actually refers to, but probably DejaVu Sans Mono. |
| 09:02.45 | OpenTokix | sounds plausible |
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| 09:06.43 | nf7 | Ok I see, thanks for the information. Well I've been switching between Menlo and Inconsolata endlessly, I just can't seem to settle on a good font for coding that I really like. |
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| 09:07.51 | n0buddy | hi :) |
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| 09:08.40 | babilen | nf7: It is "DejaVu Sans Mono" |
| 09:09.35 | nf7 | babilen: Thanks. I just tried it out on my OSX machine which has a really high res screen, and I think I prefer Inconsolata. DejaVu Sans Mono looks quite good on my Linux laptop though. |
| 09:10.11 | babilen | It's my standard font these days. But use whatever looks best :) |
| 09:10.40 | n0buddy | wow you use the DejaVu Sans Mono theme,... it is a nice font :) |
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| 09:12.36 | nf7 | I just noticed that DejaVu Sans Mono and Menlo are extremely similar. |
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| 09:30.33 | johnfreez | i brike apt-get |
| 09:30.37 | johnfreez | http://pastebin.com/6mSwfXpb |
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| 09:30.42 | johnfreez | *broke |
| 09:30.57 | johnfreez | i've entered the dependency maze |
| 09:31.07 | johnfreez | caught in the dependency trap |
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| 09:31.29 | jelly | johnfreez: you've been mixing stable and some newer release, that was a Bad Idea |
| 09:31.42 | johnfreez | jelly, is it fatal? |
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| 09:33.26 | jelly | johnfreez: it's known and expected situations like these happen when you do that. Often there's a way to revert to stable if only a small set of packages had been upgraded. |
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| 09:33.40 | themill | !partial downgrade |
| 09:33.40 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>. |
| 09:34.23 | jelly | dpkg, tell johnfreez about not available |
| 09:34.28 | jelly | dpkg, tell johnfreez about partial downgrade |
| 09:34.34 | jelly | dpkg, tell johnfreez about wheezy sources.list |
| 09:34.47 | jelly | oops, too slow |
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| 09:35.06 | tytan | Hey, I have a "problem" with bash. Why can't I see other computers connected to my network but my own and the router with "arp -a" ? :( |
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| 09:36.58 | jelly | tytan: your machine never talked to them, and they never talked to your machine |
| 09:37.27 | tytan | Is there a possibility to see all devices without interacting with them? |
| 09:37.29 | jelly | or at least s/never/not recently/; arp table is cache and entries expire |
| 09:37.47 | jelly | tytan: in general, no |
| 09:38.35 | jelly | there are passive monitors like arpwatch, but there's no guarantee you're going to catch every device |
| 09:38.43 | armin | find-question: i know i can limit the results by mtime, but can i also sort the results by mtime? |
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| 09:39.58 | tytan | thank you ^^ |
| 09:40.07 | themill | armin: you'd have to include mtime in the output and then run it through sort (or write it in some other scripting language) |
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| 09:52.02 | Rikle_S | Hi |
| 09:52.22 | Rikle_S | mycript is enabled by default on a fresh debian install with php ? |
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| 09:56.35 | cusco | Rikle_S: it is here |
| 09:56.47 | johndoe | why are some packages put on hold while doing "apt-get upgrade"? is it because they arent properly integrated yet? |
| 09:57.02 | johndoe | *kept back |
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| 10:03.59 | woffs | johndoe: in most cases unresolvable dependencies. try aptitude instead to get another view |
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| 10:04.26 | woffs | johndoe: aptitude upgrade |
| 10:04.39 | n0buddy | apt-get install -f |
| 10:04.41 | n0buddy | :p |
| 10:04.43 | johndoe | ah i see, thats what i thought. thanks :) |
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| 10:04.48 | n0buddy | to fix the missing depencies... |
| 10:04.55 | bhuddah | !dist-upgrade |
| 10:04.56 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; as of Debian 5.0 "Lenny", aptitude calls dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. See also <why not dist-upgrade>, <full-upgrade>. |
| 10:05.10 | johndoe | so its ok if some packages are kept back |
| 10:05.15 | bhuddah | this is what you were looking for |
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| 10:15.08 | oiuasdu | hello guys, is there any possibility to change the inode information from table with other tools than touch ? I would like to change access/modify and change times of a file |
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| 10:16.28 | pankgeorg | Hello everyone. What does it take to become a debian developer? |
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| 10:19.00 | jimcooncat | I'm running vnc4server and can't get firefox to run display 1 when I have it open on display 0. I get a "firefox is already running" message. I would like to use the same profile, or maybe there's a way to have a separate, but synced, profile? |
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| 10:19.52 | johnfreez | welp, aptitude is busy removing just about everything |
| 10:19.58 | johnfreez | i'm not shure how long i'll last at this point |
| 10:20.13 | johnfreez | ctrl-c didn't work |
| 10:20.16 | johnfreez | ctrl-x didn't work |
| 10:20.28 | adc | pankgeorg: https://www.debian.org/devel/join/ |
| 10:20.40 | oiuasdu | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16126992/java-nio-files-setting-change-time-attribute-on-a-file/17066309#17066309 |
| 10:20.43 | johnfreez | it's starting with the a's and it's up the e's by now |
| 10:21.03 | oiuasdu | this is the answer to my question. this is the lamest irc channel I have ever seen in my life :D |
| 10:23.21 | johnfreez | once aptitude is done removing everything, where should i begin rebuilding? |
| 10:23.33 | johnfreez | gdm3 was on it's list of removed packages |
| 10:23.51 | johnfreez | this is gonna be rough |
| 10:24.33 | pankgeorg | did it finish removing? |
| 10:24.47 | johnfreez | no, it's stuck on evolution-webcal at the moment |
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| 10:25.07 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, open another terminal and type 'ps -ejh | grep apt' |
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| 10:25.40 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, that will give you the PID |
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| 10:26.09 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, then type 'sudo kill <PID>' or 'sudo pkill apt-get' |
| 10:27.01 | pankgeorg | if that doesn't work, try 'sudo kill -9 <PID>' |
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| 10:27.30 | johnfreez | ok, aptitude quit |
| 10:27.57 | johnfreez | so now i think it's possible that gnome is no longer installed |
| 10:28.04 | johnfreez | or the window manager |
| 10:30.32 | johnfreez | i feel like i just did an equivalent of rm -rf / |
| 10:30.38 | johnfreez | shudders |
| 10:30.41 | johnfreez | http://pastebin.com/MmNZ2Um1 |
| 10:30.54 | itop | could anybody post the good link for basic practical debian challenges to practice as a student |
| 10:31.32 | johnfreez | certainly not the challenge i'm facing |
| 10:32.10 | johnfreez | i think i just inadvertently uninstalled the GUI, though i don't think xorg was removed |
| 10:32.54 | pankgeorg | Calm down. Don't invoke any programs. |
| 10:33.03 | pankgeorg | They may be uninstalled. |
| 10:33.16 | pankgeorg | check if apt is installed now |
| 10:33.32 | johnfreez | looks like it, yes |
| 10:33.49 | oiuasdu | are you sure? |
| 10:33.53 | pankgeorg | do that by 'apt-get -v' |
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| 10:34.18 | johnfreez | apt 0.9.7.9 for i386 compiled on Nov 16 2013 15:17:39 |
| 10:34.26 | pankgeorg | ok |
| 10:34.58 | oiuasdu | I cannot compile the compiler in linux, any idea? |
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| 10:36.11 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, give me a moment to figure out something |
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| 10:37.02 | johnfreez | pankgeorg, i read you; i'm just hanging out here in gnu/linux limbo |
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| 10:39.24 | itop | i want to design a ctf challenge which contain ssh challenges i want to harden ssh is there any good link to do that |
| 10:39.31 | itop | provide me good link |
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| 10:41.10 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, 'dpkg --get-selections' to see what packages are installed now |
| 10:42.57 | johnfreez | http://pastebin.com/CXpxv0zB |
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| 10:43.22 | pankgeorg | I can't be sure what you really need for a system to work, but can compile you a list of my packages |
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| 10:44.09 | Pseudocrat | This may be a slightly strange question, but would there be any real harm in plugging my HDD in without mounting it inside the case? I just need it plugged in long enough to format and reinstall the OS |
| 10:44.51 | pankgeorg | Pseudocrat, i've done that many times without an error till now. |
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| 10:45.14 | Pseudocrat | pankgeorg, 'till now' meaning that you now got an error |
| 10:45.41 | brontosaurusrex | Is there a little, cute epub/mobi ebook reader, other than calibre? |
| 10:45.57 | pankgeorg | Now I didn't |
| 10:46.02 | SynrG | so you meant "yet" |
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| 10:46.17 | pankgeorg | yes |
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| 10:46.41 | Pseudocrat | Awesome, thanks pankgeorg |
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| 10:46.58 | SynrG | Pseudocrat: and i've done likewise, routinely |
| 10:47.17 | SynrG | just making sure that if it's not secured, it's also not touching conducting surfaces in wrong places |
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| 10:47.45 | SynrG | i'll sometimes use some non-insulating material to set it down on. a piece of cardboard or something |
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| 10:47.58 | Pseudocrat | SynrG, Good to note. |
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| 10:48.22 | Pseudocrat | brontosaurusrex, I cannout vouch for either of these, but: http://okular.kde.org/ and http://fbreader.org/ |
| 10:48.27 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, http://pastebin.com/jFKM2SUC |
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| 10:50.08 | johnfreez | so i feed that to dpkg --set-selection somehow? |
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| 10:50.29 | Pseudocrat | piping? |
| 10:50.39 | pankgeorg | You can do something like 'dpkg --set-selections < file' and then 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' |
| 10:50.45 | pankgeorg | https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages |
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| 10:51.50 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, although I think that a better way is to use your own file in a command like 'aptitude install $(cat <YOUR-dkpg --get-selections'| awk '{print $1}')' |
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| 10:52.49 | Pseudocrat | What!? Apparently .epubs are just renamed .zip files of .html files?? |
| 10:53.01 | pankgeorg | maybe 'apt-get install $( `dpkg --get-selections` | awk '{print $1}') ' will do the trick with your files. |
| 10:53.13 | HibernateStump | Can I just confirm that Squeeze will be EOL on the 14th may 2014? |
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| 10:54.27 | caraconan | Hi there. Did somebody already installed skype from the provided .deb package? Facing this problems: http://paste.debian.net/89829/ Packages already installed at the required version. Any suggestion will be welcomed. |
| 10:55.32 | brontosaurusrex | Pseudocrat, thanks |
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| 10:57.06 | pankgeorg | caraconan, try installing i386 arch https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
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| 10:57.18 | Pseudocrat | HibernateStump, Based on https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases I would say that it is extremely likely to see an EOL for Squeeze in May of 2014. They have consistently had EOLs ~365 days after a new stable. |
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| 10:58.04 | HibernateStump | Pseudocrat: Thanks very much appreciated... |
| 10:58.16 | caraconan | pankgeorg: thanks, I was not aware that is a 32bit package |
| 10:58.49 | brontosaurusrex | isn't there a talk about sqeeze LTS? (not that i care) |
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| 10:59.06 | pankgeorg | caraconan, :) i386 is the hint! |
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| 10:59.52 | caraconan | pankgeorg: I know, but how to expect that skype is still providing its software just in 386 arch in 2014? |
| 10:59.59 | Pseudocrat | brontosaurusrex, http://bits.debian.org/2014/03/working-on-squeeze-lts.html This is the last I have heard on it. |
| 11:00.19 | pankgeorg | caraconan, Microsoft rules :P |
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| 11:01.04 | johndoe | how can i install fglrx-legacy on jessie? |
| 11:01.21 | johnfreez | ok, so i'm hoping dpkg/aptitude didn't actually remove anything yet |
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| 11:01.42 | johnfreez | it's saying, uponjohnfreez@owslibrary:~$ sudo dpkg --set-selections < dpkg.get.selections |
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| 11:01.49 | johnfreez | dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process |
| 11:01.49 | dpkg | johnfreez: okay |
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| 11:02.33 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, 'ps -ejH | grep apt '. does it show anything? |
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| 11:03.58 | johndoe | fglrx-legacy on jessie... should i use the package from experimental or from wheezy-backports? |
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| 11:04.29 | johnfreez | http://pastebin.com/4DFMpPYw |
| 11:04.29 | Nik05 | are you on stable? |
| 11:05.21 | johndoe | Nik05: testing |
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| 11:05.45 | johndoe | johnfreez: thats a capital H, not small h |
| 11:06.28 | johnfreez | ok, much simpler output for "ps-ejH|grep apt": |
| 11:06.36 | johnfreez | 10577 10576 10293 pts/10 00:00:04 aptitude |
| 11:06.44 | johnfreez | should i just kill it and that's that? |
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| 11:07.15 | johnfreez | where's the undo button for dpkg? |
| 11:07.17 | johnfreez | hah |
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| 11:08.32 | pankgeorg | kill it. no, nothing like an undo as far as i am aware |
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| 11:09.09 | johnfreez | upon killing the present instance of aptitude, i suppose i could feed dpkg --set-selections with a corrected list |
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| 11:09.18 | johnfreez | let's see what happens when i kill it |
| 11:10.16 | foubarre | hello. I did a hard drive clone using DD. It worked however i now have two partitions mounted as "/". I would like to resize the "/" one on the new hard drive, but linux will not let me unmount it. Any idea, please? |
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| 11:12.59 | andry | dont umount /, umount the device |
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| 11:13.09 | andry | i think that way it works |
| 11:13.27 | Pseudocrat | Should I install 7.4 or testing? |
| 11:13.37 | jelly | foubarre: how did you manage to »have two partitions mounted as "/"«? |
| 11:13.46 | andry | i wonder how that works, too :D |
| 11:14.05 | foubarre | andry: i did umount /f /dev/sdb2 but it keeps on saying that it cannot unmount "/" |
| 11:14.23 | jelly | foubarre: be safe -- reboot into a livecd/liveusb, remove the old hard disk or at least change the old root fs UUID and LABEL |
| 11:14.24 | foubarre | jelly: dd from /dev/sda to /dev/sdb |
| 11:14.41 | jelly | foubarre: dd wouldn't have mounted anything |
| 11:14.54 | jelly | (that doesn't answer the question) |
| 11:15.20 | andry | he maybe it is because of the same uuids |
| 11:15.37 | johnfreez | pankgeorg, johndoe, gratitude |
| 11:15.37 | andry | >> tune2fs /dev/sdb2 -U `uuid` for a random uuid !may! work, too |
| 11:15.43 | SynrG | Pseudocrat: the standard advice is to install stable |
| 11:15.44 | foubarre | jelly: ah, i see. gparted tells me that partition is mounted and umount does not want to unmount it. |
| 11:15.49 | johnfreez | i feel more confident the system will boot next time around |
| 11:15.54 | johnfreez | though i'm not certain |
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| 11:16.01 | foubarre | andry: ah, yes, could be |
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| 11:16.42 | SynrG | Pseudocrat: that being said, if you are a willing, capable user, wishing to engage with the project on making the next Debian release better, testing could be for you. see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
| 11:17.15 | jelly | foubarre: gparted is a silly user interface. Do not trust it blindly. What does /proc/mounts say? |
| 11:17.24 | Pseudocrat | SynrG, I know, but I was hoping for perhaps some advice on the *current* stability of testing -- that room could probably help :p |
| 11:17.30 | SynrG | yes |
| 11:17.55 | johnfreez | this all started when i tried to load the latest version of libimobiledevices2 in order to interface with iOS7 |
| 11:17.58 | johnfreez | not worth it |
| 11:18.07 | SynrG | Pseudocrat: i'd be happy to discuss it there |
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| 11:19.55 | foubarre | jelly: it says : "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 mars 26 12:19 /proc/mounts -> self/mounts" |
| 11:20.05 | jelly | foubarre: its contents. |
| 11:20.13 | jelly | !paste |
| 11:20.14 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 11:20.25 | andry | johnfreez, libimobiledevice is a pain .. i pulled usbmuxd from git (109) and the other packages like libplist, libusbmuxd from unstable .. i messed around with it about an hour .. at least i got it mounting my iphone .. but it is still very (!) buggy |
| 11:20.27 | jelly | foubarre: verify there's no /dev/sdb2 listed |
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| 11:20.53 | foubarre | jelly: haha. yes i slapped myself right after pasting.. |
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| 11:21.42 | johnfreez | andy, i didn't get that far, stumbled into an endless dependency maze before i could get past the endless "trust this computer loop |
| 11:21.45 | andry | i forced removal of the old packages via dpkg and used checkinstall to create new packages with the same name ... just to fix the broken dependencies for apt-get |
| 11:22.15 | foubarre | jelly: http://pastebin.com/E3w0LC8U |
| 11:22.22 | andry | :D i recommend to wait. it just wont work at this time |
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| 11:22.27 | foubarre | jelly-home: ah |
| 11:22.37 | superlinux-hp | hi. I don't know why when i type the letter P in gnome terminal , I get gnome terminal title editing. I cannot type P. would you please help? |
| 11:22.51 | foubarre | jelly: no sdb2 |
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| 11:23.16 | andry | i think thats it, foubarre |
| 11:23.16 | jelly | foubarre: then it's not mounted, and gparted sucks |
| 11:23.20 | andry | ./dev/disk/by-uuid/730fffec-ebb4-47d2-a7b8-80f337d1e71f / ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0 |
| 11:23.23 | andry | the uuid |
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| 11:23.40 | andry | gparted maybe thinks it is mounted because of the id |
| 11:23.57 | jelly | I know, but it's still buggy |
| 11:24.07 | superlinux-hp | ok i found it |
| 11:24.12 | foubarre | andry: i changed UUID using your command, right now. Maybe rebooting will make it aware of the change. |
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| 11:24.21 | foubarre | andry: trying that |
| 11:24.26 | andry | :) |
| 11:24.51 | andry | does anyone know another dlna server under active development than minidlna? |
| 11:25.17 | superlinux-hp | by mistake the keyboard shortcuts where messed |
| 11:25.35 | andry | hehe |
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| 11:26.08 | superlinux-hp | i think they must not accept it without a modifier like alt or shift |
| 11:26.19 | jelly | andry: mediatomb |
| 11:26.52 | andry | superlinux-hp, i had some similar issue with alt+r .. i accidently bound it to run a program, but i also needed it to search/replace in nano |
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| 11:27.07 | jelly | andry: also that gnome thing, the name escapes me at the moment (rygel?), and half a dozen better, but non-free ones |
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| 11:27.26 | andry | hmm, mediatomb seems to be a bit to heavy for my needs |
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| 11:28.01 | andry | i will look into rygel, thanks |
| 11:28.22 | jelly | too heavy? :-) |
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| 11:28.37 | andry | yes, like .. that webinterface and stuff :D |
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| 11:28.44 | foubarre | andry; that was the UUID. thanks a bunch... |
| 11:28.52 | andry | hehe okay :) no problem |
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| 11:38.05 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, did it work at last? |
| 11:38.17 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, Sorry i was occupied |
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| 11:39.32 | johnfreez | pankgeorg, apt-get seems to be working |
| 11:39.53 | johnfreez | the two original packages that were experimental seem to have been uninstalled or reverted |
| 11:40.25 | johnfreez | i successfully installed bonnie++, a HD benchmarking program, which is what i wanted to install in the first place |
| 11:40.43 | johnfreez | i wonder what'll happen if/when i reboot... |
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| 11:49.20 | pankgeorg | did it install any packages? |
| 11:49.48 | pankgeorg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:51.17 | pankgeorg | or --set-selections whatever you did |
| 11:52.27 | pankgeorg | and 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' |
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| 11:53.02 | babilen | dpkg: aptitude clone |
| 11:53.02 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
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| 11:54.10 | bezaban | what is a good way to copy the whole filesystem of a debian machine for backup or transition from bare metal -> virtual environment? Is dd fine to use on a whole drive on a running system? |
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| 11:55.02 | jelly | bezaban: it's not. A file-based approach would be slightly safer; making the fs read-only or using a consistent snapshot would be even better. |
| 11:55.07 | bezaban | dd is often proposed, but it won't capture the machine in a single state |
| 11:55.09 | bezaban | right |
| 11:55.09 | petern_ | For consistency, stuff needs to be not running. |
| 11:55.32 | jelly | bezaban: if you had LVM and free space on the VG, you'd be able to make a snapshot |
| 11:56.03 | bezaban | jelly: lvm snapshot is a great suggestion. That will work for at least a few of them |
| 11:56.09 | jelly | amusingly, vmware's migration scripts use tar to archive the whole fs |
| 11:56.24 | shingouz | bezaban: tar, excluding things like /proc and /lost+found. better to *not* have the system running, though |
| 11:56.48 | bezaban | shingouz: aye. +/dev |
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| 11:57.12 | shingouz | bezaban: amongst other things, yes |
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| 11:57.59 | bezaban | I think I might end up PXE booting and imaging a few of them. Which means graveyard shift :( |
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| 11:59.42 | shingouz | bezaban: lots of caffeine and try not to bump into the undertaker |
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| 12:00.30 | johnfreez | pankgeorg, i see, dselect-upgrade is a kind of way to sync up with dpkg? |
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| 12:01.36 | johnfreez | damn, i guess still not out of the woods |
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| 12:02.07 | johnfreez | ' sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade ' wants to install 239 packages |
| 12:02.48 | brontosaurusrex | calibre is probably the most annoying app i ever seen, so I'll refraze the question: is there an epub to pdf converter? (I'd like a cli version) |
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| 12:02.58 | johnfreez | presumably all the ones that had been uninstalled |
| 12:03.27 | bezaban | actually, looking at one webserver I think I'll be better off doing a full reinstall |
| 12:03.31 | johnfreez | like gdm3, and gnome, and gedit, and avahi-daemon |
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| 12:04.09 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, yes, let it do it |
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| 12:04.35 | andry | i wonder who really uses mdns |
| 12:04.51 | andry | its a nice feature, but admins dont really use it right now |
| 12:04.59 | andry | (talking of avahi and stuff) |
| 12:05.05 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, do all these and then 'sudo apt-get update' |
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| 12:08.55 | petern_ | mdns is more of a desktop thing. |
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| 12:09.18 | themill | andry: sure -- lots of people use avahi things on private networks. It's even rattling around and heavily used on our $work network with however many thousand machines that implies. |
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| 12:09.35 | petern_ | used by daap etc. |
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| 12:09.51 | andry | hm, maybe it spreads with ipv6? |
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| 12:10.41 | themill | not necessarily, it works over ipv4 just fine too |
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| 12:11.19 | andry | okay, i thought most people will use it for just multicasting dns in an ipv6 network |
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| 12:14.28 | themill | andry: I use it for dns over ipv4 on several different networks; I know colleagues use it for service discovery (small NAS devices, printers, media players). Lots of people will be using it on their network at home so their phone can talk to their tv or whatever. |
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| 12:15.59 | pankgeorg | johnfreez, got to go, good luck. make sure to dselect-upgrade and accept installation of all packages it asks for |
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| 12:32.30 | johnfreez | i'm wondering where i can get script tutoring |
| 12:33.10 | andry | thank you themill and petern_, i will have a second look at it :) |
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| 12:34.32 | johndoe | im running testing (jessie). how can i install just a single package (and its dependencies) from experimental? |
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| 12:35.53 | kchehab | hi |
| 12:36.10 | johndoe | *unstable |
| 12:36.17 | themill | dpkg: tell johndoe about tum |
| 12:36.20 | petn-randall | johndoe: experimental is meant to work on top of sid, not necessarily on jessie. If you have further questions, ask on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, I'm there, too. |
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| 12:36.46 | johndoe | petn-randall: sorry, meant unstable |
| 12:36.53 | johndoe | but thanks :) |
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| 12:37.21 | kchehab | df -h rootfs 388G 158G 211G 43% / but df -ih rootfs 25M 25M 0 100% and i have a problem cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device |
| 12:37.30 | kchehab | how can i expand the 25 M |
| 12:37.40 | metaphysician | Why does the same font with same anti-aliasing/rendering settings, look different in Debian than in Ubuntu? How to make the font appear exactly like it does in Ubuntu? http://i.imgur.com/2tmiM0H.png |
| 12:37.46 | jelly | kchehab: on ext3-ext4? You can't. |
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| 12:37.59 | jelly | kchehab: do you actually need all the 26 million files? |
| 12:38.06 | jelly | 25* |
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| 12:39.33 | kchehab | jelly FROM WHERE DID YOU GET THE NUMBER OF 26 MILLION FILEs |
| 12:39.58 | kchehab | jelly i am runnig a captyring service in this machine and it store millions of files yes |
| 12:40.07 | jelly | kchehab: inodes used roughly equals the number of files on the filesystem. You have millions of files. |
| 12:40.17 | petn-randall | metaphysician: I see your point, but only Ubuntu knows what they have changed as they pulled from Debian, not the other way around. :/ |
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| 12:41.49 | jelly | kchehab: if you resize the existing filesystem, the number of inodes available will increase in a linear manner. Other than that, there's no way but to reformat |
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| 12:41.55 | petn-randall | metaphysician: Also, Wheezy is more current than Ubuntu 12.04, and might even ship a newer Xfce. |
| 12:42.00 | andry | metaphysician, ubuntu changes a lot in fontconfig |
| 12:42.08 | thoonai | heyho, my sudo rule does not behave as it should. sudo rule: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7154036/ result on cmdline: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7154190/ |
| 12:42.09 | andry | but you can try infinality for a better font |
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| 12:42.36 | petn-randall | thoonai: Which release are you running? |
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| 12:42.59 | jelly | kchehab: ext[234] family of filesystems have statically created inode tables, sizes determined at mkfs time |
| 12:43.13 | kchehab | jelly so how can i fix it ? and sorry for my dump question what is inodes |
| 12:43.22 | thoonai | petn-randall: wheezy, 12.04, 13.10 |
| 12:43.32 | earthian | Hello, I have mounted a directory /home/source into /home/shared/dir with --bind. Now I want to unmount /home/shared/dir but I get a message that the device is busy. The /home/source is in use by torrent clients, but /home/shared is not in use by anything. Is this a bug or a feature? How to unmount the other directory when the source one is in use? |
| 12:43.43 | kchehab | jelly ok i understans |
| 12:43.44 | SynrG | kchehab: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode |
| 12:43.48 | jelly | kchehab: for this purpose, let's say inodes are equal to "files" |
| 12:44.19 | kchehab | jelly yes i understand ,so the solution should be zipping these files in one file |
| 12:44.32 | petn-randall | thoonai: 12.04 and 13.10 are Ubuntu releases, and not supported here. |
| 12:44.33 | johndoe | i think you could do that, yes |
| 12:44.39 | kchehab | jelly or moving it to other system |
| 12:44.48 | jelly | kchehab: sure, if you can change the format and reduce the number of files that would work |
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| 12:46.03 | thoonai | petn-randall: yeah since I develop this thing for ubuntu AND debian and it does not work on ubuntu nor debian, I'll ask here ;) and in #ubuntu, where everyone is busy solving other people problems :) |
| 12:46.20 | kchehab | jelly resizerFS would handle the 26 million |
| 12:46.27 | thoonai | petn-randall: I hope its ok ;) |
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| 12:46.33 | SynrG | thoonai: then 'wheezy' is the correct answer and make sure all output is actually from the wheezy system, not from the ubuntu system, even if it is 'the same' |
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| 12:46.51 | SynrG | thoonai: we don't care what other systems it doesn't work on |
| 12:47.35 | thoonai | SynrG: its wheezy output, but I used paste.ubuntu ;) |
| 12:47.37 | jelly | kchehab: reiserfs has dynamic allocation of relevant structures, yes, but it has other serious drawbacks (realistically, no fsck) |
| 12:47.49 | SynrG | thoonai: just making sure |
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| 12:47.59 | jelly | kchehab: or did you mean something else? |
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| 12:48.09 | user999 | earthian: Are you sure you're not using the shared directory, even by having the folder opened in file browser och terminal? I've had issues caused by that, weird but still... |
| 12:48.17 | thoonai | SynrG: my love for debian and ubuntu is sadly the same ;) |
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| 12:48.24 | SynrG | thoonai: /etc/sudoers.d/vbox is a locally provided or third-party package file? |
| 12:48.31 | SynrG | thoonai: hey, i don't judge |
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| 12:50.50 | earthian | user999, the directory where the source is mounted is not in use |
| 12:50.57 | SynrG | thoonai: it appears that file has an error. according to the sudoers man page, you can edit files in that dir with visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/vbox, for example |
| 12:51.11 | thoonai | SynrG: I wrote /etc/sudoers.d/vbox myself, its: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7154036/ |
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| 12:51.25 | SynrG | thoonai: and you *should* always make changes to this file in like fashion, as visudo ensures that the file is syntactically correct before saving your questions |
| 12:51.31 | SynrG | saving your changes, i meant |
| 12:51.46 | kchehab | jelly i will try to comprss the files daily and move it thanks alot |
| 12:51.48 | jelly | kchehab: you might want to investigate xfs, or create ext4 with 2x or 4x more inodes |
| 12:51.49 | thoonai | SynrG: yeah I just used vim :/ |
| 12:51.55 | SynrG | don't do that. |
| 12:52.09 | earthian | user999, lsof of the directory inside shared is showing that the source directory is in use by some processes |
| 12:52.12 | SynrG | now become root (can't be through sudo because you broke that) ... |
| 12:52.17 | SynrG | and fix it with visudo -f |
| 12:52.32 | kchehab | jelly if i install a debian from scratch there will be any way to expand the 25 MB |
| 12:52.36 | SynrG | and from now on, always make the edits that way. |
| 12:52.40 | earthian | but I did not query the source directory! |
| 12:52.49 | kchehab | jelly during installation |
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| 12:55.13 | jelly | kchehab: yes. Switch to Alt-F3 console and run mke2fs manually with appropriate options |
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| 12:56.23 | thoonai | SynrG: but I didn't broke sudo :/ |
| 12:56.53 | SynrG | thoonai: oh? the error output you pasted looked like it did ... |
| 12:56.59 | jelly | kchehab: -T news would give you 4 times the number of inodes, see /etc/mke2fs.conf and inode_ratio definitions |
| 12:57.35 | thoonai | SynrG: I wrote myself an additional sudo rule for an application |
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| 12:59.48 | thoonai | SynrG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7154036/ |
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| 13:00.17 | thoonai | SynrG: this is my own sudo rule :/ I dont recognize any syntax error, if you do, please tell me |
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| 13:01.14 | Reelax | hi, someone told me to "get the Qt dev packages from the repo - they'll pull in everything they need. You can continue using the newer Qt you downloaded." how to do this ? |
| 13:01.26 | SynrG | visudo should recognize the syntax error and spit out a message about it |
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| 13:01.57 | c0rnel | hello |
| 13:02.01 | SynrG | thoonai: are you saying visudo's error message is not informative enough? |
| 13:02.29 | themill | thoonai: visudo would tell you that there is an error in your file |
| 13:02.30 | c0rnel | what is the dpkg equivalent of rpm -qip ? i want to check under what license is ca-certificates distributed ... |
| 13:02.33 | SynrG | Reelax: maybe you could explain what you're trying to do |
| 13:02.33 | Alula | Why do I have to move to systemd? -_- |
| 13:02.48 | SynrG | Alula: complaints -> /dev/null |
| 13:02.50 | Alula | is slackware the last bastion of sysvinit? |
| 13:03.16 | c0rnel | ok, found it :) |
| 13:03.24 | Alula | I don't see what I gain except the wonder of having to learn to rewrite all my init scripts |
| 13:03.50 | SynrG | short answer: you don't. debian isn't removing sysvinit. |
| 13:04.01 | themill | Alula: sysvinit has been unable to correctly boot linux since 2004. "grep -c sleep /etc/init.d/*" for the lower bound on the number of latent bugs on your system. systemd runs init scripts too. |
| 13:04.06 | Reelax | SynrG: i need Qt programming development packages , is it qtbase5-dev-tools ? |
| 13:04.19 | Alula | Will the packages still provide sysvinit scripts? |
| 13:04.42 | SynrG | Reelax: for what purpose? what were you trying to do that didn't work for you, and what was the error output, if any? |
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| 13:05.10 | SynrG | Reelax: and for which debian release? |
| 13:05.45 | SynrG | Reelax: i can't tell you what to do to solve your problem if you don't tell me what the actual problem is you're trying to solve. |
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| 13:06.55 | Reelax | SynrG: some Qt programming guy told me i needed Qt Dev tools to run example Qt programs. |
| 13:07.01 | Reelax | im on Debian 7.4 |
| 13:07.37 | SynrG | Alula: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd/Integration |
| 13:07.46 | SynrG | Alula: i don't see "remove /etc/init.d scripts" on that list |
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| 13:08.08 | nkuttler | Reelax: i'd imagine that installing kdevelop pulls in everything you need? |
| 13:08.22 | SynrG | Alula: in fact, point 2 says "update-rc.d(8) should enable/disable systemd services in addition to creating the sysvinit links." |
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| 13:08.43 | SynrG | Alula: so an effort is being made to accommodate here for people using different init systems |
| 13:09.06 | themill | thoonai: you use but don't define a runas_alias. You don't use the runas_alias correctly in your command specification. |
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| 13:09.41 | Alula | SynrG: That's a good thing |
| 13:09.50 | Alula | SynrG: I really have no intention of moving over |
| 13:10.06 | SynrG | Reelax: i guess if i saw the error message from an attempt to build an example Qt program, i would be able to tell you what package(s) to install |
| 13:10.33 | Alula | I run BSD systems that use systemv style init scripts |
| 13:10.43 | Reelax | SynrG: ok, one min. |
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| 13:11.34 | c0rnel | is there a way to install dpkg in fedora"? |
| 13:11.51 | Reelax | SynrG: http://i.imgur.com/xhOPZnV.png |
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| 13:12.08 | c0rnel | found it |
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| 13:12.44 | Reelax | SynrG: he said : "qtbase5-dev or qtbase5-dev-tools should do fine" but i think i don't have those for my debian version ? |
| 13:12.45 | abrotman | c0rnel: the bot or the tool? |
| 13:12.55 | c0rnel | abrotman, dpkg |
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| 13:13.28 | themill | dpkg, confuse c0rnel |
| 13:13.28 | dpkg | No, where are your pineapple yesterday, c0rnel? Wellies of the People's Republic of Belarus with extra crabpaste. |
| 13:13.28 | c0rnel | abrotman, but i don't know how to use it: dpkg-query: no packages found matching ca-certificates |
| 13:13.41 | c0rnel | i have downloaded the .deb |
| 13:13.53 | c0rnel | themill, :) |
| 13:14.13 | c0rnel | abrotman, the tool |
| 13:14.36 | Reelax | nkuttler: you said kdevelop , but im on Gnome. |
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| 13:14.59 | SynrG | Reelax: the error messages there aren't qt-related things |
| 13:15.08 | c0rnel | eh |
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| 13:15.15 | c0rnel | dpkg -capital i |
| 13:15.15 | dpkg | c0rnel: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 13:15.37 | SynrG | Reelax: in general, for each missing lfoo-#.# there is a libfoo-dev package |
| 13:15.48 | c0rnel | mmm, how can i read the package license? |
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| 13:16.27 | nkuttler | c0rnel: /usr/share/doc/<package>/copyright |
| 13:16.36 | c0rnel | nkuttler, thank you |
| 13:16.42 | Reelax | SynrG: so i should download all those seperately ? |
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| 13:17.40 | themill | qt5 isn't in wheezy at all and is in a bit of a state of flux in debian atm |
| 13:17.41 | nkuttler | Reelax: generally speaking, yes. what are you trying to compile? |
| 13:17.45 | nkuttler | oh, qt5.. |
| 13:18.23 | SynrG | look at the screenshot |
| 13:18.33 | SynrG | cannot find -lxslt, etc. |
| 13:19.05 | SynrG | so for that, there is libxslt1-dev |
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| 13:19.39 | Reelax | SynrG: how did you find what i need ? i cant find this even on google : lxslt |
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| 13:19.57 | SynrG | Reelax: anyway, if he's the expert, maybe he's right and qtbase5-dev will do it |
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| 13:20.15 | SynrG | Reelax: '-l' is the switch name. not part of the library name |
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| 13:20.37 | SynrG | ,v qtbase5-dev |
| 13:20.38 | judd | Package: qtbase5-dev on i386 -- jessie: 5.2.0+dfsg-7; experimental: 5.2.1+dfsg-2; sid: 5.2.1+dfsg-3 |
| 13:20.53 | SynrG | Reelax: however, qtbase5-dev exists only in jessie. it's not in wheezy. |
| 13:21.06 | SynrG | Reelax: and there's no backport for it |
| 13:21.25 | SynrG | Reelax: if you're going to develop using qt5, you'll need an OS release that supports it |
| 13:21.47 | c0rnel | hmmm, trying to boot debian 7 netinst in virt-manager, boot fails: no such file or directory: http://ipxe.org/2d03e13b |
| 13:21.56 | c0rnel | maybe my company filters it |
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| 13:22.41 | melt7777 | I'm running wheezy with main contrib non-free repos and kernel: Linux pimp 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 13:22.41 | melt7777 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.03 | c0rnel | no, actually i can reach the page, but the first line there is Error to boot |
| 13:23.46 | themill | melt7777: wheezy-backports, yes. You may also want to install the appropriate headers package too |
| 13:23.53 | SynrG | Reelax: again, what's your goal? it sounds like you are trying to learn to develop with qt. there is an older qt in wheezy ... |
| 13:24.11 | Reelax | ok then i will follow your first suggestion and download them separately. Thanks |
| 13:24.20 | SynrG | Reelax: if it *must* be qt5, wheezy doesn't support that |
| 13:24.32 | Reelax | no it doesnt have to be Qt 5 |
| 13:24.39 | SynrG | ok |
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| 13:25.29 | SynrG | Reelax: there is, for example, libxslt1-dev |
| 13:25.43 | SynrG | Reelax: if installing that makes that *one* error go away, proceed to the next one |
| 13:25.57 | SynrG | iterate until you have all the deps installed |
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| 13:26.45 | melt7777 | themill okay, so it will be, main contrib non-free wheezy-backports ? and can i uninstall the old/existing headers and existing linux-image-amd64 package as well? |
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| 13:28.03 | themill | melt7777: you don't need to uninstall the packages to upgrade them and you probably don't want to uninstall the older linux-{headers,image}-3.2-* packages at all until you're sure the newer ones work for you. |
| 13:28.08 | themill | dpkg: tell melt7777 about wheezy-backports |
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| 13:28.57 | melt7777 | themill, yes, i meant, after success with new stuff. i am trying to minimize installation size in addition to fixing the problem at hand |
| 13:29.44 | melt7777 | dpkg: tell melt7777 about bdo |
| 13:30.18 | melt7777 | ah i can msg directly. thanks guys appreciate your help |
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| 13:31.35 | lobocode | guys.. What's wrong with this script? is to block facebook, and allow these ip's to above. http://www.fpaste.org/88758/ |
| 13:31.40 | lobocode | I need Help please |
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| 13:36.29 | sevenfourk | hi fellas. could anyone point on why i see changes in cpu's speed by running: $watch -n1 "cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep 'cpu MHz'", when governor set to performance, I understand that meens to use max cpu's speed? Got i5 2520M. Thanks |
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| 13:38.46 | petern_ | turbo boost |
| 13:39.11 | Reelax | SynrG: there is no package similar to libgio*-dev for lgio-2.0 error |
| 13:39.54 | SynrG | libgio2.0-cil-dev - CLI binding for the GIO I/O stack 2.22 |
| 13:39.55 | SynrG | ? |
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| 13:40.28 | SynrG | hmm |
| 13:40.29 | SynrG | Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.30.2), libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.12.10), libmono-corlib4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1), libmono-system4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) |
| 13:40.31 | themill | probably libglib2.0-dev rather than the C# pacakge |
| 13:40.40 | SynrG | so maybe it's actually libglib2.0-dev, yes :) |
| 13:41.11 | themill | 2.33.12+really2.32.4-5 ftw |
| 13:41.30 | SynrG | Reelax: apt-file search may help here |
| 13:41.39 | SynrG | Reelax: e.g. 'apt-file search libglib' |
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| 13:42.13 | SynrG | er, 'apt-fie search libgio' i meant |
| 13:42.22 | Reelax | oh ok |
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| 14:07.25 | wols | josef_: fN being a F key, N being an arbitrary number |
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| 14:07.50 | colo-work | josef_, it means pressing one of the Function keys on your keyboard (that's the keys labelled F1 to F12, on some keyboards F16, on the topmost row of your keyboard) while holding down the CTRL and ALT keys simultaneously |
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| 14:25.18 | boudiccas | suddenly i have 0 space left on my / , so i empty the trash, and do a 'du -sh /home/boztu/' which shows that it is 109gb, which should leave me with about 140gb free. But its currently showing as 0, how do i clear it please? |
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| 14:27.10 | wols | boudiccas: check other places? /var mainly. anotehr possibility is that you deleted 140GB of stuff but some other program has these 140GB of file(s) still open. |
| 14:27.22 | wols | it is only deleted actually from disk when said program stops accessing it |
| 14:28.25 | boudiccas | k, ta |
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| 14:30.24 | halt | Hi gyus, i try to find json parser on debian cli, is there any pacakge which has function like that ? |
| 14:30.57 | halt | the only thing what i found is an external binary, but whould prefer an standerd distro package |
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| 14:32.47 | babilen | halt: Pipe it into "python -m json.tool" |
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| 14:33.48 | motiejus | Hi. I created a debian-live machine ISO which has virtualbox-guest-x11. Problem: if I start it with VirtualBox, Xorg starts. If I start with KVM, it does not start xorg: I get a blinking cursor. /usr/bin/Xorg does not start X as well; says "no screens found" |
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| 14:34.47 | halt | babilen: nice thanks, that's will do |
| 14:34.52 | motiejus | how can I troubleshoot this? |
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| 14:35.31 | Brody | Hi, I am a new user. I followed the guide on debian website to install wordpress. It didnt come with 2014 theme. I updated it, but there were problems (2 links just went to code). So then I did apt-get --purge remove wordpress. However there are still wordpress files in /etc. I just want to check is this probably all normal behaviour? |
| 14:36.33 | Brody | There are also still files in /var/lib |
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| 14:37.43 | halt | Brody: dpkg -l | grep wordpress ? |
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| 14:38.22 | halt | just the status I'm instrested ( btw i did not know that there is an wordpress pacakage ... ) |
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| 14:39.38 | halt | Brody: you are right there is an repo package for it, wow ! so what's the status of the package ? |
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| 14:39.45 | boudiccas | wols; i was working in gnus where i had just killed it as it was trying to download *everything* from my gmail account, so i crashed out of gnus [ctrl c], but emacs was bleating that there was no space left on device, so i killed emacs [pkill emacs24]. so far i've been able to reclaim 782 mb, but i'm still short of 140gb |
| 14:39.49 | Brody | halt if I type that in, it doesnt return anything |
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| 14:40.13 | Brody | halt the package had 2013 theme included |
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| 14:40.53 | halt | if there is no respond that's mean there is no match |
| 14:41.01 | boudiccas | babilen; can you help/advise please, re my suddenly disapearing hard drive space? |
| 14:41.09 | halt | nothing what's named like wordpress |
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| 14:41.49 | halt | Brody: can you search for orphan packages ? |
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| 14:42.18 | Brody | halt what would I type for that? |
| 14:42.29 | wols | boudiccas: did you check /var? did you delete large files recently? |
| 14:42.36 | babilen | boudiccas: Did we speak? |
| 14:42.37 | bezaban | boudiccas: sudo du -sh /* should give you and indication of where in the filesystem it lies |
| 14:43.06 | boudiccas | wols; yes, i checked /var but don't see anything relevant, none that i'm aware of |
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| 14:43.16 | boudiccas | thanks folks |
| 14:43.21 | bullgard4 | !compositor |
| 14:43.57 | wols | boudiccas: use du |sort -n to check what is where. 140GB of files should stand out |
| 14:44.11 | wols | bullgard4: /msg dpkg <topic> |
| 14:44.20 | halt | Brody: you need the pacakge deborphan so apt-get install deborphan && deborphan |
| 14:45.13 | babilen | Brody: I'd start with "aptitude search '~c'" and "aptitude search '~c'" |
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| 14:45.34 | Brody | halt in /etc there is a wordpress folder with the main config file. And in /var/lib there is a wordpress folder with 2014 theme |
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| 14:46.35 | halt | Brody: oh there is something what's could hold it back from the delete even if you run purge, if you cahnged the folder, then it does not dealted the parent folder |
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| 14:48.38 | boudiccas | wols; du |sort -n can't go back far enough, i can only get 1881 lines showing in bash, and that is not enough, can we fine-tune the command to only show anything of 1gb or more please? |
| 14:48.44 | Brody | halt i think i did have to manually create a folder to install the 2014 theme yes. Ah ok, well shall I just manually delete these two lingering wordpress folders using a command line or something? |
| 14:49.33 | halt | Brody: yeah just do that, you should be good then |
| 14:50.19 | Brody | halt there isnt a right click and delete option on the folder itself like in windows lol. This whole linux thing is gunna take some getting used to ^^ |
| 14:50.37 | Brody | Thanks for the help |
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| 14:51.18 | Brody | Now to learn how to install things without apt-get. Onwards! |
| 14:51.22 | halt | Brody: just forget about the gui and you will be happy :) |
| 14:51.38 | Brody | Righto |
| 14:52.01 | boudiccas | du -sh /home/boudiccas/* shows that my /home is only 97gb, so the big files must be elsewhere, but how do i find it? |
| 14:52.48 | joltcan | boudiccas: find / -size +XXXM |
| 14:53.56 | bezaban | boudiccas: I would start at root 'du -sh /*' and work my way down, but there are many approaches. |
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| 14:54.27 | bezaban | depends if you are looking for big files or multiple small ones |
| 14:54.32 | babilen | boudiccas: You could also use wonderful tools such as ncdu or baobab |
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| 14:55.41 | boudiccas | babilen; thanks, just installing ncdu atm |
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| 14:58.29 | babilen | boudiccas: Alternatively pipe the du commands into "tail -n 100" or "head -n 100" or "less" (adjust according to wishes) |
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| 15:04.14 | boudiccas | k, thanks |
| 15:04.46 | boudiccas | ncdu shows that the missing space id not in /home, so now using baobab to look at the whole h/d |
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| 15:14.31 | boudiccas | babilen; some background, / is a 310gb drive, with about 140gb free space. suddenly it bleats that it has 0 free space, so now i'm trying to track it down and then clear it. currently /home is not the problem, thats all inthe clear |
| 15:15.06 | babilen | boudiccas: Sure, what did baobab tell you? |
| 15:15.40 | boudiccas | it couldn't complete scanning / because of lack of permissions, so i'm now running it under sudo |
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| 15:18.52 | Koma | ehy there! |
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| 15:20.42 | boudiccas | babilen; its now completed showing that / is 133gb, which includes /home of 116gb, so where has the remaining space gone? |
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| 15:22.58 | AngryAdmin | zfs mount -a NAME |
| 15:23.01 | AngryAdmin | yields |
| 15:23.02 | AngryAdmin | http://pastebin.com/GkJfreC2 |
| 15:23.10 | AngryAdmin | when mounting 2nd zfs drive |
| 15:23.21 | AngryAdmin | why? can peple not leave the hands away from breaking stuff in linux? |
| 15:23.26 | AngryAdmin | :( |
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| 15:23.48 | AngryAdmin | anyway, need help, i can mount 1 ZFS raid2 but mounting the other one gives that error! |
| 15:23.49 | boudiccas | babilen; i'm currently showing as 657mb free space on / is it worth trying a reboot to see if that clears it? its been 11 days since the last one so i'm due a reboot soon anyway |
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| 15:25.14 | babilen | boudiccas: You probably have a bunch of open file descriptors. A reboot would certainly clean things up. |
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| 15:25.54 | boudiccas | k, thanks, i'll try that then |
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| 15:26.27 | AngryAdmin | I was laughing my ass of over this scenario: 6 drives need to be combined to ZFS, that is fine. good, I nee XEN hypervisor, pref. 4.3. |
| 15:26.33 | AngryAdmin | So, I install Debian Wheezy |
| 15:26.39 | AngryAdmin | upgrade to Jessie |
| 15:26.42 | AngryAdmin | install xen 4.3 |
| 15:27.26 | AngryAdmin | only to find out zfs for debian has been broken since kernel 3.11? Allruight.... so solution to that is to create a XEN vm on the first OS install debian 3.2 on that, then mount the 6 drives wiuth ZFS |
| 15:27.29 | AngryAdmin | ROFL guys.... |
| 15:27.52 | AngryAdmin | and iscsi the 6 drives back the original XEN |
| 15:28.01 | tomodachi | thats inception |
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| 15:28.07 | AngryAdmin | thats bullshit :) |
| 15:28.08 | jelly | AngryAdmin: #zfsonlinux channel is thataway --> |
| 15:28.12 | tomodachi | why not go with brtfs since you are living on the edge already? |
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| 15:28.15 | AngryAdmin | ahh :) |
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| 15:28.57 | babilen | AngryAdmin: And please ask a concise and precise question. The ranting doesn't help at all. In fact it is slightly distracting. |
| 15:29.29 | jelly | AngryAdmin: the kernel implementation has never been part of Debian, only the zfs-fuse one. Which are you using? |
| 15:29.53 | AngryAdmin | jelly: NOT fuse, which worked fine on kernel 3.2 and 3.4 |
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| 15:30.12 | jelly | you're asking in the wrong place then, I'm afraid |
| 15:30.21 | AngryAdmin | Yes, I know that |
| 15:30.30 | jelly | very well |
| 15:30.40 | AngryAdmin | everywhere i ask will be wrong |
| 15:30.41 | babilen | AngryAdmin: So please act accordindly and take it to the right channel. :) |
| 15:30.53 | AngryAdmin | if i got to zfs, then I will be directed to kernel channel |
| 15:31.07 | AngryAdmin | etc... etc... this has been the magic going on for 2 days with being redirected |
| 15:31.30 | babilen | Either way, you are wrong here. All the best! |
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| 15:31.40 | AngryAdmin | sure, thanks for the redirect |
| 15:31.45 | babilen | np |
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| 15:34.43 | kchehab | i am connected through ssh client to my server and i have a running command in ps root 10370 0.0 0.0 18356 1160 pts/1 S+ 14:36 0:01 mv 2014-03-15/ /mnt/cap/Public/capture/ |
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| 15:35.00 | kchehab | if i close my session the mv command will stop |
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| 15:35.11 | kchehab | since i rung it without & |
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| 15:35.28 | kchehab | is there a command to let it continue even if i disconnect from sheel |
| 15:35.30 | kchehab | shell |
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| 15:35.45 | kj4 | kchehab: run it in screen |
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| 15:36.31 | SynrG | maybe: bg </dev/null &>/dev/null |
| 15:36.32 | boudiccas | babilen; yes, thats cleared it all, i've now got 148gb free again |
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| 15:36.47 | babilen | boudiccas: yay |
| 15:36.59 | boudiccas | thanks folks for all the ideas, its okay again |
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| 15:37.58 | jelly | AngryAdmin: it's not that we don't want to help you, it's that we have no fucking clue about ZOL (in part because it's not in the distro) |
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| 15:38.22 | jelly | so the right place to go is usually upstream |
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| 15:54.23 | maroloccio | i dist upgraded and now my virtualbox debian guest does not mount from /etc/fstab automatically anymore, i have to mount devname manually, then it works. why? |
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| 15:55.28 | nkuttler | maroloccio: dist-upgraded to what? |
| 15:55.37 | nkuttler | (and what) |
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| 15:56.27 | wols | maroloccio: and what's in your fstab? |
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| 15:58.44 | maroloccio | sample from fstab: common /home/marco/vbox/common vboxsf rw,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000,dev 0 0 |
| 15:59.33 | maroloccio | that means: virtualbox guest utils shared folder entitled "common", mounted under vbom/common using their filesystem, rw, under my uid, which corresponds to 1000 (mounting manually works) |
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| 16:00.18 | maroloccio | dist upgraded to: 3.13-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.13.5-1~bpo70+1 (2014-03-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux (Debian GNU/Linux 7.4 (wheezy)) |
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| 16:00.53 | wols | maroloccio: virtualbox needs a kernel module to work and be able to share directories |
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| 16:01.22 | maroloccio | wols: if that wasn't working, would it mount manually? |
| 16:02.25 | wols | no. could be the module isn't loadeed at the time fstab is mounting. |
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| 16:04.00 | maroloccio | wols: interesting. i wasn't immediately thinking about that race since all i did was to update the kernel.. that did not seem to suggest it would change some ordering.. |
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| 16:05.31 | maroloccio | don't see errors in syslog though, only "success"es: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) |
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| 16:10.43 | dorji | what makes debian superior to rpms ? |
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| 16:11.45 | zinx | dpkg, tell dorji about why debian |
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| 16:14.48 | dorji | nah all i am asking is what is the difference between debian packages and rpm packages? |
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| 16:16.01 | mtn | dorji: try wikipedia and google |
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| 16:21.05 | jelly | dorji: at this point, not much. Both ecosystems evolved to have similar features. Main differences are build and security/checksumming methodology, ability to install multiple versions of same package, file-based instead of package-based dependencies with rpm. |
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| 16:36.30 | spyder | how can i install sqeeze package in wheezy |
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| 16:37.57 | somiaj | spyder: what package from squeeze do you want to install in wheezy and why? |
| 16:38.35 | somiaj | spyder: the general rule is do not mix versions of debian (though if you know what you are doing we can try to find you a solution) |
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| 16:40.11 | spyder | somiaj: i want to install youtube-dl which is available in squeeze but not in wheezy |
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| 16:42.11 | somiaj | ,v youtube-dl |
| 16:42.12 | judd | Package: youtube-dl on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 2012.01.05-2~bpo60+1; jessie: 2014.02.17-1; sid: 2014.02.17-1 |
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| 16:42.52 | somiaj | spyder: youtube-dl is just a script. This is nice because it won't have any crazy depends. In that case I suggest you get a newer version of the script than is in squeeze to make sure it is still compadable with youtube |
| 16:43.59 | somiaj | spyder: since it is just a script and doesn't depend on anything except python, I would suggest going to packages.debian.org/youtube-dl and downloading the .deb for testing or unstable |
| 16:44.19 | somiaj | spyder: please note, this is a very special case, do not use this as a general way to get software out side of whezzy installed |
| 16:44.49 | somiaj | spyder: another option is just go to the upstream source, download this script and put it somewhere you can run it. |
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| 16:46.16 | somiaj | spyder: http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ -- google suggest you can download the newest version of the script form there |
| 16:46.54 | DasEi | could someone please re-post the better solution of ifconfig again ? I somehow lost the bookmark |
| 16:47.19 | somiaj | DasEi: I missed your original question, what do you mean by a better solution of ifconfig? |
| 16:47.31 | spyder | somiaj: thanks |
| 16:47.47 | somiaj | Are you talking about using the program 'ip' instead? Or looking for a way to configure your network say /etc/network/interfaces file or some gui config tool like network-manager? |
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| 16:49.02 | DasEi | somiaj: some days ago I was just reading the channel with another user asking about network-tools and ifconfig, when someone posted a link pointing to a better way, sth. with nettols2 or so, can't remember right, but was a good cause to leave ifconfig behind |
| 16:49.39 | somiaj | I belive most people prefer ip over ifconfig, if that is whatyou are asking. |
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| 16:50.31 | DasEi | somiaj: ip2 , something with "2", I currently search my backuped-bookmarks, let me see |
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| 16:51.22 | somiaj | I can't recall such a conversation and it isn't ringing a bell of what they could have been taling about. |
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| 17:00.14 | jhutchins | DasEi: What is it you want to do? |
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| 17:01.44 | DasEi | jhutchins: some days ago I was just reading the channel with another user asking about network-tools and ifconfig, when someone posted a link pointing to a better way, sth. with (nettols2?) ip or so, can't remember right, but was a good cause to leave ifconfig behind |
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| 17:08.34 | llutz | DasEi: iproute2 |
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| 17:12.05 | CarlFK | debian/control has Build-Depends:... is there a tool that will parse that and apt-get them? |
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| 17:13.16 | somiaj | CarlFK: is this a src package you can install from apt? 'apt-get build-dep packagename' will install all the build depends for a debian source packave via apt. |
| 17:13.20 | CarlFK | apt-get build-dep assumes it is already in a repo, and this one isn't |
| 17:13.23 | CarlFK | heh. |
| 17:13.49 | somiaj | I haven't seen a script that does it, any reason you can't just copy/paste the list? |
| 17:14.01 | CarlFK | somiaj: commas :p |
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| 17:14.32 | xreal | On building a kernel, I'm getting this error. Even removing the directory doesn't work. Any idea? mkdir: cannot create directory `/raid/src/linux-3.13.0/debian/linux-libc-dev/usr/include/': File exists |
| 17:14.33 | DasEi | llutz: haleluja dementia, thx, that was it... studying now :) |
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| 17:14.40 | CarlFK | also they put each package on its own line. I can cut/paste, just wondering if there wasn't something easier |
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| 17:15.39 | somiaj | CarlFK: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17435958/how-to-install-build-dependencies-directly-from-the-debian-control-file -- google gave me that |
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| 17:16.06 | CarlFK | somiaj: neat - thanks |
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| 17:16.50 | CarlFK | somiaj: LOL @ "mk-build-deps: You must have equivs installed to use this program." I think I can handle that |
| 17:17.01 | xreal | anyone with an idea? |
| 17:17.47 | somiaj | CarlFK: yea I have never messed with such a thing, hopefully that page works. (: |
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| 17:18.19 | somiaj | xreal: how are you making this kernel? Where did you get the source, what tools are you using to make it? |
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| 17:19.11 | xreal | somiaj: Debian unstable, skipabi=true skipmodule=true debian/rules binary-indep |
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| 17:22.52 | CarlFK | somiaj: seems to have worked. thanks again |
| 17:23.03 | somiaj | xreal: I wouldn't use the rules file directly, I belive the suggest method is after you configure it run 'make deb-pkg' |
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| 17:23.44 | somiaj | xreal: are you using the debian source or the upstream vanilla source. If you are using the debian source, you could try 'deb-buildpackage' inside the source tree |
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| 17:24.21 | xreal | somiaj: upstream with some patches :) |
| 17:24.39 | xreal | "-i" (ignore errors) helped me, I think :)) |
| 17:24.55 | xreal | seems to be a bug in the rules or makefile |
| 17:24.56 | zinx | egads |
| 17:25.26 | xreal | somiaj: dpkg-buildpackage or deb-buildpackage? |
| 17:25.45 | somiaj | xreal: could be, again I think the suggested way is to use the 'make deb-pkg' from the upstream kernel as it is now included as a make option |
| 17:26.26 | somiaj | xreal: I was trying to look this up, but there are so many variatnes and outdated info hard to find the suggested way. Seems the release guide still suggests using make-kpkg but I thikn using the stuff includeded in the new upstream sources is suggested these days |
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| 17:27.21 | xreal | somiaj: there are 5 different ways to compile kernels on all the debian DOCs: make-kpkg, debian/rules binary-generic, deb-pkg, make, dpkg-buildpackage |
| 17:27.32 | xreal | somiaj: and your deb-buildpackage :) |
| 17:27.54 | somiaj | xreal: yea most of them are from old times. http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.kernel-compilation.html |
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| 17:28.21 | somiaj | xreal: that one seems to suggest the one I do, 'make deb-pkg', this is now prefered as the old methods were before the upstream kernel included the info to do it. |
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| 17:29.00 | somiaj | xreal: and I ment dpkg-buildpackage I can't seem to keep all these names straight. (: |
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| 17:29.50 | xreal | somiaj: the problem is: I'm on squeeze and want to test a new kernel. I don't have the dependencies to use 'make deb-pkg' - old-fashioned stle works... |
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| 17:32.06 | somiaj | xreal: ahh, well hopefully that is the only issue you have trying to get a newer kernel to work. At least it is not lenny. (: |
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| 17:35.09 | wnkz_ | Does someone know how to make partman leave some free space in a VG with an expert_recipe (LVM) ? |
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| 17:35.44 | OpenTokix | wnkz_: I create a LV with the "rest" and then delete it |
| 17:36.16 | OpenTokix | wnkz_: I have a postinstall script that delete the lv and remove it from fstab |
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| 17:36.40 | wnkz_ | OpenTokix: yep, I fallback to this solution too but .. partman is so useless :-/ |
| 17:36.57 | OpenTokix | wnkz_: It is not to versatile as one would want no |
| 17:37.26 | wnkz_ | OpenTokix: in the doc they talk about a "method{ keep }" but this does not seem to work with LVM |
| 17:37.45 | OpenTokix | wnkz_: oh |
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| 17:37.55 | OpenTokix | wnkz_: lvm in partman is alittle magic |
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| 17:38.03 | OpenTokix | wnkz_: took med 100 installs before I got it right =) |
| 17:38.23 | wnkz_ | OpenTokix: same here, would not call it "magic" though :x |
| 17:38.32 | wnkz_ | OpenTokix: for the record: http://ftp.dc.volia.com/pub/debian/preseed/partman-auto-recipe.txt |
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| 17:39.28 | OpenTokix | wnkz_: thx |
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| 17:42.36 | yiwan | I accidentally deleted my hard disk partition tables, |
| 17:42.58 | yiwan | Can restore |
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| 17:43.26 | dondelelcaro | yiwan: yes, it is possible to restore if that's all you did |
| 17:43.35 | yiwan | Tools are used by Fdisk,without reboot |
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| 17:43.55 | dondelelcaro | yiwan: using gpart or similar, you can scan the disk for the start of the partitions, and then use those numbers in parted or similar |
| 17:44.02 | dondelelcaro | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370121 has an example |
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| 17:44.17 | petern_ | If you remember where they were, you can just recreate them. |
| 17:44.31 | yiwan | *** Fatal error: dev(/dev/sdb): seek failure. |
| 17:44.59 | yiwan | Gpart says so |
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| 17:45.13 | dondelelcaro | yiwan: if you have a seek failure, that's some other problem |
| 17:45.30 | dondelelcaro | (or you're not running gpart as root) |
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| 17:45.52 | yiwan | I simply use Fdisk to delete partition |
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| 17:47.02 | yiwan | root account,of cause |
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| 17:50.10 | dondelelcaro | yiwan: well, the other solution is to run parted, and have it scan for a filesystem in each segment using the rescue command, and then rebuild the partition that way |
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| 17:50.16 | dondelelcaro | yiwan: gpart just makes that easier |
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| 17:52.52 | yiwan | I did not restart after partition, how to view the saved partition information in the kernel |
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| 17:57.15 | dondelelcaro | yiwan: it's in /sys/class/scsi_disk/*/device/block/sda/sda1/{start,size} iirc. |
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| 18:05.54 | jhutchins | Wonderful example of why you ALWAYS make a backup before messing with partitions. |
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| 18:42.51 | onexused | I'm trying to install Debian from the 7.4.0 netinstall CD. When the installer gets to "Install the base system", it fails immediately. Output: http://s14.postimg.org/pxh0zo1z3/DSC02653.jpg http://s27.postimg.org/zc158o7xd/DSC02656.jpg |
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| 18:43.07 | onexused | I did use the CD verification menu option. It said the CD is fine. |
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| 18:45.03 | onexused | How do I get past this? |
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| 18:49.26 | wols | onexused: how did you create the install medium? burnt it to CD? |
| 18:49.42 | wols | press ctrl+alt+f4 and check what error message there is |
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| 18:50.38 | onexused | wols, Yes. The second image is what I see on ctrl+alt+F4. I'm not sure what to make of these messages. |
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| 18:50.55 | onexused | (yes, I burnt it to CD) |
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| 18:51.21 | onexused | I can't shift+pgup to scroll up on ctrl+alt+f4, so that's all I can see. |
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| 18:52.15 | wols | onexused: I don't know why it can't find the packages. USB is no option? |
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| 18:54.20 | onexused | I used CD first because I saw it as more convenient. Checking... that computer doesn't want to let me boot from USB. It's an older one. |
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| 18:54.56 | penth | I have a brand new wheezy vm with an exim glitch. instead of trying to deliver unqualified addresses to the FQDN in /etc/mailname or localhost, it's addressing them to foo@ETC_MAILNAME. Why is the variable being bare-referenced? |
| 18:55.12 | onexused | I'm sure there's probably some way to boot from USB by using a CD, or something. |
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| 19:04.23 | jhutchins | !paste |
| 19:04.23 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 19:04.40 | jhutchins | onexused: Those services are blocked by fewer webfilters. |
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| 19:08.41 | Abbott | Is there a way to go back to a fresh installation of Debian without physical access to the machine? (I usually use SSH) |
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| 19:09.24 | jhutchins | onexused: Do you happen to have the link you used for the netinstall image? |
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| 19:11.06 | jhutchins | Abbott: Not if you don't have some sort of remote console. |
| 19:12.04 | jhutchins | Abbott: The establishment of a network connection requires that the network software be installed and configured, so at the stage where that is no longer true, you'd loose it. |
| 19:12.34 | jhutchins | Abbott: I suppose you need to start over with a remotely hosted system? |
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| 19:16.35 | Abbott | yes. The system is at my house and I am at my university, so I could have my brothers plug stuff in/power cycle/etc. if I needed them to but they aren't very savvy with linux so i am trying to still manage the whole installation myself |
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| 19:21.29 | phil5354 | Hello |
| 19:22.09 | phil5354 | I'm a newbie, I just installed Debian but did not select a network mirror, is there something I have to do to complete the install properly? |
| 19:22.23 | wols | !tell phil5354 about wheezy sources.list |
| 19:22.33 | wols | provided you have internet. |
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| 19:27.58 | average | when I make a server with netcat, can I specify the interface on which it listens ? |
| 19:28.01 | average | like |
| 19:28.09 | average | nc -l -p 4000 |
| 19:28.16 | average | for example, which interface is it on ? all of them ? |
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| 19:30.19 | phil5354 | I'm trying to apt-get netselect but it cannot be found? |
| 19:31.06 | average | phil5354: https://packages.debian.org/stable/net/netselect |
| 19:31.50 | phil5354 | Thanks, I'm new so it's a bit overwhelming |
| 19:32.03 | average | np |
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| 19:32.33 | ompaul | phil5354: apt-get update && apt-get install PACKAGENAME |
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| 19:33.48 | TheWarden | Hello |
| 19:33.51 | phil5354 | ompaul: Giving it a try |
| 19:33.54 | phil5354 | Hello |
| 19:34.06 | wh | what the /etc/nologin conatin |
| 19:34.07 | wh | ? |
| 19:34.25 | wh | what we may give to that for blocking root access |
| 19:34.39 | TheWarden | Is it at all possible to have a Debian system boot up (no X Window installed) in the console and have no text displayed? |
| 19:34.49 | gcbirzan | Yes. |
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| 19:34.58 | gcbirzan | Though, experience tells me that's a terrible idea. :) |
| 19:35.02 | jhutchins | Abbott: There are preseed and kickstart. You could build a custom install CD/USB. |
| 19:35.09 | TheWarden | The reason for this is the system will run an application in console automatically using an init script. This application would run on that console. |
| 19:35.19 | jhutchins | Abbott: You could also have them ship you the HD, redo the install, and ship it back. |
| 19:35.34 | TheWarden | I figured if one for some reason would need to use the local console they could just change from tty0 to tty1 |
| 19:36.23 | TheWarden | I don't want any output being displayed but my console application. So no dmesg, prompt or system error messages. |
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| 19:36.29 | gcbirzan | TheWarden: Either way, a cheating way is to say console=ttyS1 |
| 19:36.33 | gcbirzan | or whatever :P |
| 19:36.48 | TheWarden | gcbirzan: how do you mean? |
| 19:36.53 | jhutchins | TheWarden: That's usually done with a GUI and setting up a kiosk mode (see Google). |
| 19:36.57 | gcbirzan | TheWarden: I mean, as a kernel command line argument |
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| 19:37.07 | TheWarden | jhutchins: no GUI will be used. |
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| 19:37.08 | wh | what is runlevel 3 |
| 19:37.16 | Abbott | jhutchins if I put a tinycd instalation on usb/cd and tell them to put it in the machine, could I handle the install from ssh? and I'm not sure what you mean by preseed and kickstart, are those custom install images? |
| 19:37.18 | TheWarden | gcbirzan: oh? |
| 19:37.23 | jhutchins | TheWarden: init doesn't really work though, you'd want an auto-login with a user restricted to that program. |
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| 19:37.51 | TheWarden | jhutchins: ahh I have my application running already at boot time without having to log in. So that is no the issue. |
| 19:37.57 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I think you should look at the GUI kiosk setups and derive your own, although there might be a non-X, non GUI kiosk howto somewhere. |
| 19:38.11 | gcbirzan | TheWarden: also, you need to then modify... well, I guess still /etc/inittab, to remove tty1 from there |
| 19:38.20 | TheWarden | jhutchins: well there is no intent to ever use a GUI so that would be a major waste of resources. |
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| 19:38.56 | jhutchins | TheWarden: There are bootsplash options that will avoid showing the startup. I believe Ubuntu hides the grub menu by default and shows it if you hold shift, you might look at how they do that. |
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| 19:39.40 | TheWarden | jhutchins: okay, well I would be fine with leaving the console prompt. Just want to avoid the dmesg and system messages being displayed at the minimum. |
| 19:40.20 | jhutchins | wh: In Debian and derivitives runlevels 2-5 are the same. |
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| 19:40.50 | TheWarden | gcbirzan: would you have a link about this solution? I'm not sure I entirely understand nor know what you mean by a cheating way of doing it. |
| 19:40.51 | gcbirzan | dmesg -n0 |
| 19:40.56 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I think that can be done with the "quiet" option. |
| 19:40.58 | phil5354 | #flood |
| 19:40.59 | wh | i want to mount a sda3 partition at os startup how can i do that |
| 19:41.14 | centrx | wh, /etc/fstab |
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| 19:41.31 | TheWarden | okay that would remove the dmesg messages but what about the system errors, etc. that are normally disabled to the console? |
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| 19:41.34 | wh | how tell me detail way |
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| 19:41.43 | wh | i want to mount that into /mnt |
| 19:41.52 | wh | what i have to place in that file |
| 19:42.03 | centrx | wh, Type man fstab and read. |
| 19:42.09 | gcbirzan | TheWarden: You mean the inittab stuff? Hm, not really. If you look into the file, you'll see what I mean. |
| 19:42.21 | TheWarden | gcbirzan: okay |
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| 19:42.56 | gcbirzan | TheWarden: There's a section full of gettys, the login prompt. |
| 19:42.57 | TheWarden | The other thing I thought of is some how directing all messages/content sent to tty0 to say tty1 |
| 19:43.09 | gcbirzan | Then how would you display anything on tty0? :) |
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| 19:43.32 | TheWarden | well I'm not saying everything... just dmesg, system messages, etc. |
| 19:43.46 | wh | my system has to start with tty1 how to do that |
| 19:43.54 | gcbirzan | TheWarden: console=tty1 will do that, |
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| 19:44.13 | wh | after reboot it has to work |
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| 19:44.24 | wh | will it work |
| 19:44.29 | TheWarden | gcbirzan: but would that still boot the system up on tty0 allow for my application to run on tty0? |
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| 19:44.41 | gcbirzan | TheWarden: it shouldn't. but, I haven't tried. |
| 19:44.55 | gcbirzan | TheWarden: I mean, it should just display stuff on tty1 by default, but you'd be able to use 0 |
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| 19:45.00 | TheWarden | gcbirzan: well if that works that would be supper easy to achieve. |
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| 19:45.11 | malinus | Hello. I'm not sure whateve fglrx is cofigured correctly or not, but it seems that it isn't. I would like to start by saying that I'm only running X on the machine (no DE), and I don't have any other access to it at this point other than ssh. This is the error I get when "startx" http://paste.debian.net/89902/ . These are my xorg.conf and my 20-fglrx.conf: http://paste.debian.net/89901/ http://paste.debian.net/89903/ . Any ideas? |
| 19:45.42 | malinus | oh I forgot to add that it works just fine and all |
| 19:45.59 | wh | can i put console=tty1 in rc.local to get the tty1 screen automatically |
| 19:46.21 | malinus | But I'm guessing I would get better performance (lower energy usage etc.) if fglrx was set up correctly. |
| 19:46.27 | wh | whe system start up |
| 19:46.49 | TheWarden | gcbirzan: that would be done within the inittab of putting console=tty1? |
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| 19:47.18 | wh | what inittab will do i mean function? |
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| 19:48.17 | malinus | oh I forgot to add the name of the graphic card: "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series] [1002:68c1]" |
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| 19:48.35 | a-l-e | hi. i'm trying to reinstall from scratch my laptop (which used to run wheezy fine) with debian testing... |
| 19:48.36 | malinus | I'm assuming my config file is just not formatted correctly, but the debain site isn't very helpful |
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| 19:48.57 | a-l-e | ... and i get this error at the beginning of the install process http://imagebin.org/301963 |
| 19:49.10 | a-l-e | looks like a problem with the network card... |
| 19:49.19 | wh | if i put the reboot command in inittab what will happen? |
| 19:49.39 | a-l-e | does anybody have an idea what i could do? |
| 19:50.04 | wh | if i put the reboot command in inittab what will happen? |
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| 19:52.13 | a-l-e | i'm not sure if the ethernet plug is working correctly, so one solution could be to get the installer to ignore eth0 and use the wireless for installing |
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| 19:52.21 | a-l-e | ... the question is: how to do it... |
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| 19:56.00 | malinus | a-l-e, which installer are you using? I've used the "expert" with no gui yesterday, and I could easliy switch between eh0/wlan0 |
| 19:56.44 | a-l-e | ihi malinus. i've tried the expert one and it hangs just before the languages related choices... |
| 19:56.53 | a-l-e | ... with no way for me to say anything about the network... |
| 19:57.05 | DasEi | onexused: did you verify the installer (md5sum?) |
| 19:57.45 | a-l-e | ... at the end of "loading additinoal components" |
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| 19:57.55 | DasEi | onexused: sry me, if you are already answered, I just jumped back in and hadn't scrolled all down |
| 19:58.56 | phil5354 | #emacs |
| 19:58.56 | a-l-e | i'm wondering if something is bad with my eth port... or if the drivers for my specific hardware are broken in testing... |
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| 19:59.03 | a-l-e | ... ok, i could try to install stable... |
| 19:59.16 | wh | what is the difference between ssh and sshd |
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| 19:59.33 | wh | why there are ssh_config and sshd_config? |
| 19:59.34 | jhutchins | TheWarden: System errors and such usually go through (r)syslog, you can configure whether they go to the consoles in /etc/(r)syslog.conf |
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| 19:59.42 | a-l-e | ... sshd is probably the server... |
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| 19:59.50 | a-l-e | ... and ssh the client. |
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| 20:00.11 | wh | ok what can be set in ssh_config what they effect |
| 20:00.28 | llutz | wh default ssh-client config |
| 20:00.59 | RoyK | wh: the default ssh client config is under /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
| 20:01.03 | jhutchins | a-l-e: You're using the testing installer? |
| 20:01.08 | a-l-e | yes jhutchins |
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| 20:01.42 | jhutchins | a-l-e: sshd allows other systems to connect, ssh connects to other systems. |
| 20:01.54 | jhutchins | er. wh |
| 20:02.06 | a-l-e | :-) |
| 20:02.18 | a-l-e | (but good explainatio... :-) |
| 20:02.21 | wh | i am giving a binary challenge to my 100 students |
| 20:02.21 | jhutchins | a-l-e: The testing installer exists so that it can be tested, not for installing testing. |
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| 20:02.32 | wh | i want to give each session for each student |
| 20:02.43 | DasEi | wh: sshd_config is the file, where you do set how ssh behaves to remote connections ssh_config is for the client side |
| 20:02.53 | jhutchins | a-l-e: The recommended method of setting up testing is to install stable (with the stable installer), then upgrade. |
| 20:02.54 | wh | one student should not see another student details history |
| 20:03.00 | a-l-e | ah, ok... i'll do that. |
| 20:03.16 | wh | how to give the uniq filesystem session for uniquely to the students |
| 20:03.19 | Koma | If I'm in chroot how do i start a service with systemd ? |
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| 20:03.48 | jhutchins | a-l-e: The installer is necessarily one of the last items to be completed in a release cycle, since nobody knows what it will be installing until the rest of the release is at least frozen. |
| 20:04.11 | a-l-e | i thought that last time i could directly install testing... |
| 20:04.12 | DasEi | wh: no world readable homedirs, set a username for each |
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| 20:04.52 | a-l-e | ... but, maybe, it was during the later stages of a testing cycle :-) |
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| 20:05.24 | a-l-e | jhutchins: thanks for your hints! |
| 20:05.25 | jhutchins | wh: It's often useful to clone the system using something like clonezilla so it can be easily restored to the initial state. |
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| 20:06.40 | ctmjr | I think wh is using the channel to do his homework |
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| 20:07.04 | DasEi | wh: mind jhutchin', or use a vm even, as you can restore/experiment with this even easier and have a better protection - least unless very skilled personnel- to the host's admin |
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| 20:08.09 | DasEi | onexused: ? |
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| 20:09.59 | a-l-e | jhutchins: with stable it works! i will have to take my time for upgrading :-) |
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| 20:11.21 | jhutchins | a-l-e: You might want to do a second dual-boot installation and upgrade that. That way if it breaks, you boot back to stable, and you can chroot into the second install to update it and see if it's fixed yet. |
| 20:11.28 | jhutchins | s/if/when/ |
| 20:12.24 | a-l-e | no, not needed... it's a fresh harddisk... and i'm using testing on the desktop already... so it should be ok for what i need. |
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| 20:13.29 | itop | iam a root user when i created the user with useradd command the user created nicely but the problem here is that he has to root permissions |
| 20:13.40 | itop | how to give a normal user like permission to him |
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| 20:14.18 | jhutchins | itop: A regular user does not have root permissions. |
| 20:14.30 | jhutchins | itop: Only UID 0 has root permissions. |
| 20:14.32 | itop | so how to create regular user |
| 20:14.50 | a-l-e | what you have created is probably a regular user... |
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| 20:14.54 | jhutchins | adduser/useradd |
| 20:15.13 | maroloccio | apt-get dist-upgrade and my debian 7.4 virtualbox guest does not mount the shared folders defined in /etc/fstab. mount -a mounts them all fine. ideas about how to troubleshoot this? syslog is "empty" or errs.. |
| 20:15.15 | a-l-e | ... what makes you think that she is root? |
| 20:15.21 | mancha | babilen: are you around? |
| 20:15.40 | itop | i used the "adduser king" it created king named user with root permission |
| 20:15.51 | itop | but i want to create regular user how to do that |
| 20:15.59 | DasEi | itop: man deluser/adduser/delgroup/addgroup |
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| 20:16.29 | jhutchins | itop: You did that. Why do you think the new user has "root permissions". |
| 20:16.30 | a-l-e | itop: what makes you think that the user is root? |
| 20:16.35 | a-l-e | :-) |
| 20:16.46 | itop | no when i loggen in king |
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| 20:16.53 | itop | the sudo password worked |
| 20:17.02 | DasEi | itop: did you check the sudoers file about root permission ? |
| 20:17.11 | jhutchins | itop: Ah. Remove the user from the sudo group. |
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| 20:17.30 | itop | how to do that |
| 20:17.34 | DasEi | itop: su/sudo lasts for 15 min per default, check in another terminal |
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| 20:18.09 | a-l-e | is enjoying the the install blue screen with a nice growing red bar :-) |
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| 20:18.55 | DasEi | a-l-e: heh,it's the others frightning blue screens :) |
| 20:19.00 | Reelax1 | SynrG : still have some problem with libs |
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| 20:19.39 | Reelax1 | Erros about Qt Compile : http://paste.debian.net/89908/ |
| 20:19.52 | jhutchins | itop: gpasswd -d user group |
| 20:20.15 | jhutchins | itop: User must log out and log back in for group changes to take effect. |
| 20:20.46 | itop | here group means what |
| 20:20.46 | itop | root? |
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| 20:20.52 | jhutchins | itop: deluser user group will also work. |
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| 20:21.28 | itop | group? |
| 20:21.30 | jhutchins | itop: do groups user to show what groups the user is in. I believe the one you want to remove is "sudo". |
| 20:21.41 | TheWarden | jhutchins: okay, thanks. |
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| 20:22.05 | DasEi | itop: default is root, like (as root) gpasswd -d itop root; groups command will tell you |
| 20:22.06 | itop | Removing user king from group sudo gpasswd: user 'king' is not a member of 'sudo' |
| 20:22.19 | itop | i got the above message |
| 20:22.20 | jhutchins | DasEi: NO! |
| 20:22.24 | jhutchins | itop: Don't do that. |
| 20:22.43 | DasEi | jhutchins: I watch , so ? |
| 20:22.56 | itop | i already do that |
| 20:22.58 | itop | i got Removing user king from group sudo gpasswd: user 'king' is not a member of 'sudo' |
| 20:23.16 | jhutchins | itop: Do "groups king". |
| 20:23.35 | DasEi | I might oversee sth, watching jhutchin' |
| 20:23.38 | itop | ok i do it |
| 20:23.46 | itop | ok i got king: king |
| 20:23.47 | itop | after ? |
| 20:23.52 | jhutchins | DasEi: "root" is not the sudoers group. |
| 20:24.03 | jhutchins | DasEi: Users should not generally be members. |
| 20:24.20 | jhutchins | itop: Unless you have modified the /etc/sudoers file, user king can not use sudo. |
| 20:24.28 | DasEi | jhutchins: sure, my bad, I past over default behaviour, thx |
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| 20:24.55 | DasEi | jhutchins: will have bee the 15 min hold of sudo |
| 20:25.06 | itop | so tell me iam confused with sudo and root wht is the difference between sudo and root |
| 20:25.09 | DasEi | been** |
| 20:25.24 | jhutchins | !sag |
| 20:25.25 | dpkg | sag is, like, The Linux System Administrator's Guide see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/, or say, in german. |
| 20:25.48 | doebi | anyone of you knows about google siteranking? it appears that google derated me on begging of march. i get 90% less impressions and clicks... how come? |
| 20:25.53 | jhutchins | itop: That might be worth reading. |
| 20:26.17 | DasEi | itop: if a user takes sudo to have certain rights, it holds for ~15min, so next sudo won't ask for the pass again |
| 20:26.29 | jhutchins | itop: Root is the main system account, with full access to the system and the ability to change it. It should only be used for system administration, not for normal use and especially not for GUI programs. |
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| 20:26.55 | jhutchins | itop: sudo is used to allow regular users to perform administrative tasks the require "root privileges". |
| 20:27.20 | DasEi | see also gksu |
| 20:27.23 | jhutchins | itop: It's usually configured to allow users to use any command, but can be limited to specific users, groups, servers, and specific commands. |
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| 20:27.41 | itop | so if sudo something then i have to give root password? |
| 20:27.42 | jhutchins | itop: It can be configured to require a password, or to allow a command without specifying the password. |
| 20:27.52 | jhutchins | itop: sudo also logs commands it is used for. |
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| 20:28.15 | jhutchins | itop: Regular users would give their own pasword to use sudo. |
| 20:28.25 | jhutchins | itop: This way they do not need to know the root password. |
| 20:28.36 | DasEi | itop: by default all this sudo/gksu/su/ and so on require root-PW |
| 20:28.42 | jhutchins | itop: It's fairly common to set a system up so that root can not log in. |
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| 20:29.02 | itop | so how to stop the user1 king to modify the entire filesystem |
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| 20:30.48 | jhutchins | itop: Another command is su - <user>. By itself, "su -" prompts for the root password. "su -" allows one user to "become" another user. The "-" specifies that the user will use the new user's environment and path, without "-" you get the user's identity, but not the environment, so for instance $HOME stays the $HOME of the original user. |
| 20:30.50 | itop | what is difference between su command and sudo command |
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| 20:31.22 | jhutchins | itop: 1) Do not configure sudo to allow regular users, 2) Do not allow "king" to know the root password. |
| 20:31.39 | DasEi | itop: if you just did an adduser from rootpromt, exit/ then login your new user, try to look at root or try to put a file in say /etc, shouldn't be possible unless otherwise specified |
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| 20:31.45 | itop | how to do that that is iam asking |
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| 20:31.53 | jhutchins | itop: su effectively logs you in as root - it starts a new shell as that user. |
| 20:32.12 | jhutchins | itop: sudo can either allow all commands or can be restricted to specific commands. |
| 20:32.26 | DasEi | leans back :) |
| 20:32.33 | jhutchins | itop: If you're going to allow other users than yourself, you should read the System Administrator's Guide at least. |
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| 20:33.11 | jhutchins | DasEi: sudo requires the current user's password, not the root password. |
| 20:33.14 | itop | no sir my question is that iam root user. i created a user named king in my terminal when i logs into the king it has the all root permissions |
| 20:33.24 | jhutchins | DasEi: Thats what makes it useful. |
| 20:33.26 | itop | so i want to give only normal user permissions to him |
| 20:33.40 | itop | so what command is used for that |
| 20:33.47 | jhutchins | itop: No, king does not have root permissions. |
| 20:33.47 | itop | that is my question |
| 20:33.52 | DasEi | jhutchins: I have used Ubuntu a lot.. Debian has onother - safer- policy, right |
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| 20:34.27 | jhutchins | DasEi: Right. In ubuntu, root has no password, so you use the user password with sudo. Same with other distros. |
| 20:34.38 | itop | no sir when i hit this command "useradd king" in my terminal it created king user when i loged in the king has root permissions |
| 20:34.41 | jhutchins | itop: 1) Do not configure sudo to allow regular users, 2) Do not allow "king" to know the root password. |
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| 20:34.58 | itop | how to do that |
| 20:35.00 | itop | give the command |
| 20:35.01 | jhutchins | itop: No, king does not have root permissions. |
| 20:35.14 | jhutchins | itop: You are mistaken. |
| 20:35.20 | shawnbon206 | king? |
| 20:35.29 | itop | ya |
| 20:35.33 | shawnbon206 | sofa king? |
| 20:35.36 | jhutchins | shawnbon206: Arbitrary user created by itop. |
| 20:35.40 | shawnbon206 | oh |
| 20:36.16 | DasEi | jhutchins: I haven't followed recent changes; as I can remember sudo requires root's PW as regular user, but was by default configured so, but I'm just starting up again, so shall be quiet |
| 20:36.16 | itop | how figured is that when i logged into king user and run sudo nautilus it doesnt asked any password for that |
| 20:36.29 | shawnbon206 | like martin luther king :) (sorry i will be quiet now) |
| 20:37.06 | jhutchins | DasEi: Yeah, I use it pretty regularly. It requires user passwords if any. su requires the root password. |
| 20:37.11 | itop | then i realized king user has root permission |
| 20:37.31 | itop | so i want disable sudo for king user how to do that |
| 20:37.36 | jhutchins | itop: No, the user does not have root permissions. |
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| 20:37.51 | jhutchins | itop: Natilus does not require root permissions. |
| 20:37.52 | itop | then sudo nautilus worked in king |
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| 20:38.07 | jhutchins | itop: Please read the guide above and try to understand what it means. |
| 20:38.10 | DasEi | timeout sudo ?! (duck'n run) |
| 20:38.12 | itop | no when a normal user hit sudo it must ask some password na? |
| 20:38.35 | jhutchins | DasEi: sudo does not persist through logout/login. |
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| 20:38.56 | addaitech | should ask for a password, unless he has some sort of keyring running |
| 20:38.57 | DasEi | jhutchins: as I mentioned above ... |
| 20:38.58 | jhutchins | !sudo |
| 20:38.58 | dpkg | [sudo] (Substitute User DO) Not enabled by default on Debian systems; configure /etc/sudoers first, ask me about <visudo>, <sudoers>. sudo can give limited super user privileges to specific users, or allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root permissions, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program". See also <sudo path>. http://wiki.debian.org/sudo http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 20:39.04 | addaitech | afaik atleast |
| 20:39.16 | ctmjr | itop: your going in circles read the guide jhutchins sent you |
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| 20:39.44 | itop | ok |
| 20:40.00 | jhutchins | Sigh. You guys speculate all you like. I'm gonna go troubleshoot a server - it's what I do for a living. |
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| 20:40.21 | abrotman | pot, kettle .. |
| 20:40.27 | addaitech | lol |
| 20:40.54 | DasEi | jhutchins: looking forward for your next break then, good effort |
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| 20:43.01 | itop | if a user know the password for the sudo then he can do every admin task? |
| 20:43.06 | jhutchins | P.S.: I'm using sudo for this task. |
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| 20:44.04 | addaitech | itop, yes |
| 20:44.24 | abrotman | itop: no |
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| 20:44.32 | addaitech | you cant? |
| 20:44.37 | itop | why? |
| 20:44.43 | abrotman | addaitech: perhaps you and itop should spend some time reading sudo docs |
| 20:45.00 | itop | where they will available |
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| 20:45.05 | abrotman | google.com |
| 20:45.06 | itop | give the link |
| 20:45.08 | addaitech | i know i should, i'm not denying that |
| 20:45.14 | itop | is rfc papers? |
| 20:45.17 | abrotman | itop: you're perfectly capable of using google |
| 20:45.29 | addaitech | i just havent ran into anything i have been unable to do with sudo as of yet |
| 20:45.39 | itop | like rfc where the linux papers will reside |
| 20:45.41 | abrotman | addaitech: because of the way it's configured. Go read the docs |
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| 20:45.45 | DasEi | !sag | itop |
| 20:45.56 | abrotman | itop: Please go google, read the sudoers man page, learn how to configure it |
| 20:46.01 | addaitech | will do :) |
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| 20:46.20 | addaitech | thank you, i seriously have never read the sudoers doc |
| 20:46.33 | abrotman | itop: That will expire in a bit of time, should give you plenty to go read those docs, and write down a few questions to ask when it expires. |
| 20:46.44 | abrotman | and time to experiment a bit. |
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| 20:47.31 | a-l-e | itop: i don't think that sudo is what you are looking for... |
| 20:47.52 | jhutchins | Well, that didn't take long. |
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| 20:48.03 | jhutchins | itop: try the command "man sudo". |
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| 20:48.06 | a-l-e | if i understand you correctly, you just want to give access to some directories (and eventualy some "root" tools") to all or some users |
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| 20:48.39 | jhutchins | a-l-e: No, he doesn't understand that a regular user doesn't have "root permissions", and he doesn't understand how sudo works. |
| 20:48.52 | a-l-e | well, this is also true :-) |
| 20:49.19 | a-l-e | but i also thinks that sudo is not what he needs, either |
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| 20:54.47 | doublehp | how do i probe a monitor ? they do not appear in lshw, and X.0.log is ... not apropriate for my need |
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| 20:56.10 | jhutchins | doublehp: Not all monitors return information. |
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| 20:56.30 | jhutchins | doublehp: Xorg.0.log is what you've got. |
| 20:56.39 | doublehp | nothing more ? |
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| 20:58.34 | jhutchins | doublehp: Actually, ddcprobe |
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| 20:59.05 | jhutchins | doublehp: In the xresprobe package. |
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| 21:00.00 | jhutchins | ,v xresprobe |
| 21:00.01 | judd | Package: xresprobe on i386 -- jessie: 0.4.23debian1-1; sid: 0.4.23debian1-1; wheezy: 0.4.23debian1-1 |
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| 21:01.24 | SynrG | Reelax1: as i said, apt-file search helps with those, e.g. |
| 21:01.30 | SynrG | libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 |
| 21:01.50 | SynrG | /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gstreamer-0.10/libgstapp.so |
| 21:02.18 | SynrG | Reelax1: so you just need the -dev package for that. use: |
| 21:02.18 | doublehp | jhutchins: i want to probe monitor without X ... |
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| 21:02.32 | SynrG | Reelax1: apt-cache showsrc libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 |
| 21:02.59 | SynrG | Reelax1: that shows all the binary packages generated by the source for the lib itself, and that includes: |
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| 21:03.02 | SynrG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:03.12 | SynrG | Reelax1: repeat this procedure for each remaining missing dep |
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| 21:10.44 | onexused | jhutchins, Sorry, I was called away to other things. I know it's 2 hours late, but here's the link I used for the netinstall image: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-7.4.0-i386-netinst.iso.torrent |
| 21:10.46 | n-iCe | hello! did Debian got the new gnome 3.12? |
| 21:11.29 | onexused | DasEi: I did verify the CD, both the iso with md5 on the burning computer and with the option from the CD's install menu. |
| 21:12.31 | onexused | jhutchins, DasEi: I'm going home now. Thanks for trying to help and sorry I was away (I've heard in other channels that away messages are frowned upon). I'll probably be back tomorrow. |
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| 21:13.17 | squisher | n-iCe, no ( https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gnome ) |
| 21:13.36 | squisher | or at least, not yet |
| 21:13.42 | n-iCe | thanks! |
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| 21:20.08 | Reelax1 | SynrG : libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 is installed |
| 21:20.40 | Reelax1 | SynrG - Debian : libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 is installed |
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| 21:25.00 | Trieste | Hi, I have a problem with vmdebootstrap, I always get "EEEK! Something bad happened... |
| 21:25.08 | Trieste | " after "Debootstrapping" |
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| 21:25.21 | Reelax1 | SynrG - Debian : http://paste.debian.net/89925/ |
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| 21:28.43 | SynrG | Reelax1: did you read ALL i wrote? |
| 21:30.51 | SynrG | Reelax1: the -dev package in that output is the one you need for compilation |
| 21:31.04 | SynrG | it contains the headers for the library |
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| 21:33.35 | Reelax1 | SynrG - Debian : Ok you saying that , the source of this package ( apt-cache showsrc libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 ) shows all the dependents . Find those dependent binaries and install ? |
| 21:34.35 | SynrG | not dependencies. it shows all the binary packages built from the source of the library |
| 21:36.17 | SynrG | and yes, it also shows the build depends but it is sometimes less clear there because that list can be very long |
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| 21:36.33 | SynrG | look at the bottom |
| 21:37.16 | SynrG | Package-List: |
| 21:37.37 | Reelax1 | ok |
| 21:38.07 | SynrG | and under that, the -dev |
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| 21:39.04 | SynrG | there may be a more direct way to do this but these are the told i reach for |
| 21:39.16 | SynrG | tools*i* |
| 21:40.44 | Reelax1 | ok my Qt is working good now , thanks :) |
| 21:41.05 | SynrG | sorry. on the tablet. typing is a chore :-P |
| 21:41.12 | SynrG | great |
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| 21:42.37 | Reelax1 | you were great : ) |
| 21:42.41 | iio7 | Anyone with some working notes on how to setup qmail, vpopmail and some imap on wheezy? |
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| 21:43.47 | Eremiell | Hi guys. I'm having some problems running lualatex after last texlive updates on jessie. Something with incompatible fonts database. Any known solutions? The bug seems to be reported but unsolved. |
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| 21:49.52 | itop | i started ssh server can i block the 10.0.0.0/8 ssh clients with iptables |
| 21:50.42 | squisher | itop, sure, why wouldn't you? ssh also works with hosts.allow for an easier way to restrict IPs |
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| 21:58.16 | itop | i want to block 10.0.0.0/8 except 10.1.10.20 from ssh can i do that |
| 21:58.40 | itop | can i include 10.1.10.20 in hosts.allow and 10.0.0.0/8 in .deny file? |
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| 22:03.53 | dupi | I need to build a program from scratch without any pollution of my host. Is chroot the best way for this or is there any other way of protecting my host when building stuff? |
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| 22:04.34 | GNU\colossus | a chroot is your best bet |
| 22:04.41 | Aeiri | dupi: if i understand you correctly, just using --prefix should do what you want |
| 22:04.44 | GNU\colossus | (except for a dedicated, separate build host) |
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| 22:05.01 | petn-randall | dupi: chroot is the easiest, depending on how paranoid you are you can also use a VM for even stronger isolation. |
| 22:06.00 | dupi | I always use vm, but i feel i like im cheating and dont learn anything by doing it :) |
| 22:06.27 | dupi | Chroot and prefix could be enough ? |
| 22:06.51 | squisher | I think for debian packages there is even a program that does all of that... pbuilder maybe? |
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| 22:16.55 | Guest7793 | when i change port in sshd_config port 22 to 1345 |
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| 22:17.01 | Guest7793 | and run the sshd |
| 22:17.15 | Guest7793 | but when i see netstat the ssh is running on 22 |
| 22:17.17 | Guest7793 | why? |
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| 22:24.56 | _val_ | Guest7793: that is weird. service ssh restart && lsof -i :1345 |
| 22:26.24 | Guest7793 | so then why netstat showing port 22 |
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| 22:27.21 | Guest7793 | sorry |
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| 22:27.33 | Guest7793 | i didnt restarted that |
| 22:27.33 | Guest7793 | now its fine |
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| 22:28.11 | Guest7793 | what is the difference between listning port and open port |
| 22:28.13 | _val_ | I thought so :> |
| 22:29.13 | Guest7793 | ok in the sshd_config i changed the port means what it will do |
| 22:29.32 | Guest7793 | if my client tries wants to conect to my system how he can do that |
| 22:29.35 | _val_ | listening ports do not always have to be open. I mean in global perspective. You can have ssh listen to 1345 but you can block that port so it won't be reachable from outside. |
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| 22:29.53 | Guest7793 | how to connect to me with port 1345 |
| 22:30.06 | _val_ | ssh username@IP_ADDR -p1345 |
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| 22:31.26 | Guest7793 | how to open a port |
| 22:31.40 | Guest7793 | suppose i want to open a port 1234 |
| 22:31.44 | Guest7793 | how to do that |
| 22:32.09 | shelpe | you would have to open it up with the command iptables |
| 22:32.15 | _val_ | Guest7793: what do you mean open? iptables? |
| 22:32.30 | skytrash | listening or port forwarding? |
| 22:32.54 | _val_ | well a default debian machine does not have any iptables rule in there.. so it's open and the INPUT chain policy is set to accept. |
| 22:33.37 | Guest7793 | no i want to open a port thats it but i will not run any application or service on that port |
| 22:33.40 | Guest7793 | can i do that |
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| 22:34.20 | skytrash | its better to explain what you want to do |
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| 22:34.58 | _val_ | anyways, getting quite vague. |
| 22:35.03 | Guest7793 | no i want to open a port in my machine |
| 22:35.19 | Guest7793 | how to open any port in my machine |
| 22:35.28 | petemc | run a service on it |
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| 22:35.47 | petemc | if you havent configured a firewall there is nothing closing it |
| 22:36.13 | Guest7793 | no i want to just open a port but i will not run any service on that port |
| 22:36.25 | petemc | that doesnt make sense |
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| 22:36.42 | abrotman | petemc: have you met itop ? |
| 22:36.46 | petemc | seems not |
| 22:36.47 | Guest7793 | why? |
| 22:37.00 | skytrash | because it depends on what you want to do with it |
| 22:37.04 | petemc | goes back to what he was doing |
| 22:37.10 | abrotman | waves at petemc LTNS |
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| 22:37.46 | petemc | abrotman: been keeping it on the download, hope you're well. |
| 22:37.53 | skytrash | google netcat |
| 22:37.57 | petemc | erm, downlow, not download |
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| 22:38.01 | skytrash | have fun |
| 22:38.15 | Guest7793 | when i run netstat -tlpn it is showing openports and listening ports |
| 22:38.16 | ixti | does anybosy having issues with redis server on jessie? |
| 22:38.25 | ixti | by some reason it's not starting after reboot o_O |
| 22:38.41 | Guest7793 | but when i run nmap localhost it not showing anything why? |
| 22:38.50 | ixti | [3946] 25 Mar 19:16:07.696 # Creating Server TCP listening socket 127.0.0.1:6379: bind: Cannot assign requested address |
| 22:39.09 | ixti | so i have to start it manually with invoke-rc.d |
| 22:39.29 | ixti | it looks like it is started before network becomes available? o_O |
| 22:39.56 | _val_ | Guest7793: When a service runs it creates a socket and the associative port. It actually runs in memory and has a reserved buffer space. If there is noting (void) there is no need for any open ports. |
| 22:40.11 | _val_ | s/noting/nothing. |
| 22:40.45 | Guest7793 | ok |
| 22:40.53 | Guest7793 | i understood |
| 22:40.55 | _val_ | anyways.. just providing the general idea.. it is more complicated than that. |
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| 22:41.21 | Guest7793 | tell me this when i run netstat -tlpn i got some ports listning and open ports |
| 22:41.40 | Guest7793 | but when i run nmap localhost its not showing the open ports why |
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| 22:42.00 | skytrash | are they tcp or udp ports? |
| 22:42.09 | skytrash | what type of scan are you doing? |
| 22:42.34 | _val_ | Guest7793: if you ran netstat -tanulp it would probably scare you to death :) |
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| 22:43.22 | Guest7793 | i didnt get u <_val_> |
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| 22:43.33 | skytrash | i prefer lsof -i -P -n |
| 22:43.47 | abrotman | Perhaps point Guest7793 at docs, instead of spoonfeeding |
| 22:44.14 | skytrash | good point he needs to do some reading |
| 22:44.28 | abrotman | Which I told them over an hour ago .. |
| 22:44.29 | average | abrotman: I think you're being a bit harsh. after all, this is a support channel(if I'm not mistaken) |
| 22:44.44 | _val_ | did I mention 'ss' ? |
| 22:45.09 | abrotman | average: it's a support channel, not a spoonfeeding channel. The user is expected to do basic work to understand things |
| 22:45.28 | average | Guest7793: what reading have you done on this subject ? |
| 22:45.30 | _val_ | Well if it matters, I do agree with abrotman. |
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| 22:45.38 | norbert_ | http://www.test.com/ |
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| 22:46.09 | abrotman | norbert_: Do you need help? |
| 22:46.25 | Guest7793 | no sir dont misunderstood i am having so many confusions and doubts thats why iam asking these things |
| 22:46.51 | norbert_ | no, but thanks for asking; I'm looking for the channel (that I remember) that has a bot that says what the title of the URL is that someone pasts; apparently it's not #debian :) |
| 22:47.00 | abrotman | Guest7793: You haven't read any documents, start there |
| 22:47.43 | norbert_ | *pastes |
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| 22:48.05 | average | Guest7793: you see ... abrotman might be right here, you should do some reading to get some knowledge on the subject. in IRC you need to be very specific about what you ask to get a good answer.. |
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| 22:48.13 | zykotick9 | Guest7793: changing your nick might be a good idea as well... |
| 22:48.23 | abrotman | zykotick9: he already has, twice that i've seen |
| 22:48.37 | skytrash | a quick curl help will hwlp norbert_ |
| 22:48.55 | skytrash | ugh |
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| 22:49.00 | norbert_ | skytrash: I know how to do it ;) |
| 22:49.08 | zykotick9 | abrotman: yet it still says Guest*... interesting |
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| 22:49.17 | Guest7793 | ok i will read about these things thank to all |
| 22:49.19 | skytrash | k sry just trying to help |
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| 22:49.59 | norbert_ | !test |
| 22:50.00 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 22:50.16 | norbert_ | dpkg: say hi |
| 22:50.16 | dpkg | hi |
| 22:50.20 | norbert_ | right, that's the bot here |
| 22:50.26 | average | Guest7793: you're also lucky, it's 2014 and there is a lot of extensive documentation on a lot of things. 10 years ago it would have been much harder.. |
| 22:50.47 | average | maybe.. |
| 22:51.06 | Guest7793 | sir iam conducting a contest on linux for my friends |
| 22:51.07 | abrotman | norbert_: please stop fucking with the bot |
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| 22:51.17 | abrotman | Guest7793: a contest? |
| 22:51.18 | Guest7793 | i havent any idea what i have to put in challenges |
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| 22:51.26 | Guest7793 | i want practical problems |
| 22:51.27 | abrotman | Guest7793: Which distro are you running? |
| 22:51.31 | average | Guest7793: then you shouldn't be making the contest |
| 22:51.38 | Guest7793 | kali linux |
| 22:51.39 | norbert_ | abrotman: I just approached it twice and was silent for a minute after that; I'm not fucking with the bot |
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| 22:51.41 | norbert_ | chill |
| 22:51.41 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.76.4.189] by abrotman |
| 22:51.41 | *** kick/#debian [Guest7793!~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by abrotman (you should know better) |
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| 22:51.48 | abrotman | And that's the end of that |
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| 22:54.26 | Abbott | is there any advantage to connecting to irc servers with ssl? |
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| 22:54.40 | Abbott | or connecting without ssl i guess? |
| 22:54.43 | abrotman | Abbott: your password won't be passed to the server in the clear |
| 22:54.50 | zykotick9 | Abbott: if you planet to use OTR, then YES |
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| 22:54.58 | zykotick9 | s/planet/plan/ |
| 22:55.04 | abrotman | Abbott: ask #freenode for more information |
| 22:55.23 | average | there's gpg integration for irssi |
| 22:55.35 | average | would you consider that to be better than SSL+OTR ? |
| 22:55.47 | average | just curious what you guys think |
| 22:56.05 | Abbott | i mean if the only adjustment i need to make is to have it connect on 6697 then i'll just do it |
| 22:56.09 | Abbott | unless there's more setup than that |
| 22:56.33 | average | Abbott: maybe also check that your client knows SSL |
| 22:56.46 | abrotman | Please ask #freenode .. |
| 22:57.04 | Abbott | i'll go to #freenode, sorry |
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| 23:01.34 | gr33n7007h | Abbott, you can also connect on port 7070 |
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| 23:10.33 | ScottG489 | I accidentally wrote some partitioning data to a drive which now leaves me unable to mount the drive with the error: "mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'" Does anyone know how I might be able to recover the data off the partition or mount it? |
| 23:11.29 | petn-randall | ScottG489: What are the exact steps you did to make this happen? Commands and their output would be good, if you still have them. |
| 23:12.01 | dondelelcaro | ScottG489: that also sort of sounds like that disk was part of an LVM volume group |
| 23:12.07 | ScottG489 | petn-randall: I don't recall exactly. I had some existing lvm partitions and I accidentally made them lvm partitions again during the debian install? |
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| 23:12.11 | dondelelcaro | ScottG489: so more information would be useful so we can help you |
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| 23:13.45 | ScottG489 | Sure thing. I had my home and root on a lvm partition before. During the install they were showing up as logical partitions but for some reason I felt compelled to go into the lvm menu of the partition step of the installer and mess around with adding them to an lvm |
| 23:14.08 | ScottG489 | I don't recall the exact steps though I'm afraid |
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| 23:14.40 | ScottG489 | The partitions are sda5 (home) and sda6 (/) |
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| 23:14.59 | ScottG489 | I'm on a livecd right now and I can see them there. I just get that error when I try to mount them |
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| 23:16.07 | ScottG489 | petn-randall: dondelelcaro: Thanks for the help, though guys. I've been without a bootable linux machine for a while :/ |
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| 23:19.02 | somiaj | ScottG489: if you can some how create the originial parttion table, many times the file systems can be found again. But if you do not rember what that was you may have to get some low level tool to scan the whole drive and try to recover your data (lvm makes this more difficult) |
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| 23:19.41 | somiaj | I should learn lvm one of these days, but it is a layer I have never had a major use for |
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| 23:20.38 | ScottG489 | somiaj: I tried creating a volume group and then adding those partitions to it. However they don't show up on /dev/mapper or the like. Not sure why that doesn't work... |
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| 23:21.21 | somiaj | ScottG489: this is the time you use your backups or wish you had them. (: |
| 23:22.07 | ScottG489 | Yeah, system hasn't been bootable for so long so I haven't made backups :/ |
| 23:22.36 | ScottG489 | I've also done a ton of installs before so I didn't think I'd need to bother. But of course my linux is rusty since I was out of it for song and naturally messed up |
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| 23:30.14 | ScottG489 | Found this testdisk utility... |
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| 23:33.40 | freeone3000 | I have ruby1.9.1 and ruby.20 installed. How do I switch between the two? `update-alternatives --list ruby` doesn't give me any options. The wiki references `ruby-switch`, but apt-get says there's no installation candidate. How can I switch ruby versions? |
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| 23:41.51 | somiaj | freeone3000: type 'which ruby' and see what the link points to? |
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| 23:42.18 | freeone3000 | somiaj: /usr/bin/ruby -> ruby1.9.1 |
| 23:42.28 | somiaj | freeone3000: here mine points to /etc/alternatives/ruby which can be controled with update-alternatives |
| 23:42.47 | somiaj | freeone3000: you could point it to the ruby version you want, or set up an ruby alternative and then point it at that |
| 23:43.19 | freeone3000 | I'm concerned mine didn't do taht to begin with, based on what the wiki said. |
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| 23:43.36 | somiaj | freeone3000: if you do 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/ruby' I think you will see no packages own that link, and it was created by a postinst script. Not sure why it didn't set it up with the alternative system...what version of debian are you running? |
| 23:43.56 | freeone3000 | somiaj: "jessie", whichever that is. |
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| 23:44.21 | somiaj | freeone3000: that is testing, maybe the version you installed the postinst script was bugged or there was some other thing wrong with your system to make it not work. It is testing |
| 23:44.39 | somiaj | freeone3000: you could look at bug reports, or jsut fix the links to your liking. |
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| 23:45.04 | centrx | freeone3000, Currently in testing, you need to change the symlinks with ln -s to point to the version you want to have as default. |
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| 23:45.27 | centrx | freeone3000, /usr/bin/ruby, /usr/bin/irb, /usr/bin/gem are the main ones |
| 23:45.50 | freeone3000 | Alright, thanks. |
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| 23:56.37 | Brigo | ,v mate-sensors-applet |
| 23:56.38 | judd | No package named 'mate-sensors-applet' was found in i386. |
| 23:57.06 | somiaj | Brigo: you can /msg judd v foo |
| 23:58.01 | Brigo | somiaj, yes, sorry. |
| 23:58.17 | somiaj | Brigo: I wans't able to find any package similar to that, what are you looking for? |
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| 23:58.54 | Brigo | somiaj, mate gets finally into debian testing. |
| 23:59.10 | Brigo | but that package. |
| 23:59.20 | somiaj | that will make some people happy. I didn't even see any applet package for mate in unstable |
