| 00:00.33 | Brigo | i have it installed. Very good :) |
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| 00:19.58 | lecter | hi |
| 00:20.07 | lecter | can somebody help me? |
| 00:20.42 | dvs | gets out his crystal ball |
| 00:21.14 | themill | dpkg, 8ball can we help lecter |
| 00:21.15 | dpkg | Are you smoking crack? |
| 00:21.41 | dvs | heh |
| 00:21.41 | lecter | me? o.O |
| 00:22.02 | lecter | not now |
| 00:22.05 | somiaj | lecter: ask an actual question with enough info that we have a chance at understanding the problem. Then use we can help |
| 00:22.41 | lecter | i installed a debian in a vm, but internet not works on it |
| 00:23.12 | lecter | what can i do to solve it? |
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| 00:25.30 | lecter | ?? |
| 00:25.30 | squisher | lecter, does the network interface come up? |
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| 00:26.25 | lecter | how can i check this? |
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| 00:27.39 | squisher | lecter, run `ifconfig' in a root shell |
| 00:27.46 | squisher | do you see an interface? if not, run ifconfig -a |
| 00:27.59 | squisher | what hypervisor are you using? |
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| 00:28.21 | lecter | i can see 2 interfaces |
| 00:28.35 | lecter | a eth0 and a lo |
| 00:29.16 | squisher | eth0 is your external interface, does it have an IP? |
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| 00:30.46 | lecter | no |
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| 00:32.12 | lecter | just the "lo" have a localhost ip |
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| 00:35.12 | lecter | squisher, still there? |
| 00:36.12 | SynrG | just ask the channel |
| 00:36.15 | squisher | lecter, so it's possible that your hypervisor is just not set up correctly and doesn't run dhcp |
| 00:36.25 | squisher | SynrG, it's ok to highlight once in a conversation |
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| 00:36.57 | squisher | lecter, what hypervisor are you using? Most have different ways to run the network, so your problem may be there |
| 00:37.04 | SynrG | i know. i was just signaling that others are also |
| 00:37.13 | solrize | i have an old celeron netbook with 1gb ram and 2gb ssd. is the simplest debian approach to get i386 cd #1 and install it from a flash stick? |
| 00:37.14 | SynrG | here* |
| 00:37.46 | dvs | solrize: sounds good to me |
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| 00:37.47 | SynrG | (especially as it was a contentless ping) |
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| 00:38.16 | solrize | i see there is a 7.4 cd iso set and also "update" isos... i guess the updates are for upgrading earlier versions? |
| 00:38.21 | squisher | well, lecter should've pinged me in the content reply ;-) |
| 00:38.24 | solrize | they have the same date as the regular iso set |
| 00:39.00 | SynrG | solrize: out of curiosity, which model? |
| 00:39.03 | dvs | solrize: update CD have packages that changed from 7.0 |
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| 00:39.37 | solrize | dvs, thanks. synrg, asus eee 701, the original post-olpc netbook |
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| 00:40.04 | solrize | also have a couple other comparable machines |
| 00:40.08 | SynrG | solrize: thought so. there are a couple of gotchas |
| 00:40.21 | solrize | hmm |
| 00:40.31 | SynrG | may have to boot with vga= |
| 00:41.01 | solrize | vga is ok i'm mostly going to use it as a headless server.... anything else? |
| 00:41.13 | SynrG | and don't install desktop. that adds a ton of bloat |
| 00:41.30 | SynrG | i mean the desktop task |
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| 00:41.48 | solrize | ic, i guess there's some kind of selection menu at install time |
| 00:41.49 | dvs | Desktop Environment |
| 00:41.58 | SynrG | maybe other stuff I'm forgetting? |
| 00:42.13 | solrize | well, that will get me started thanks |
| 00:42.29 | SynrG | np |
| 00:42.32 | solrize | desktop env = stuff like openoffice? or does it mean no x server if i don't install it? |
| 00:42.45 | SynrG | i still have two |
| 00:43.07 | SynrG | no x server |
| 00:43.21 | SynrG | install xorg after |
| 00:43.34 | solrize | fair enough... there's an apt package for it? |
| 00:43.35 | SynrG | and maybe xfce … |
| 00:43.42 | solrize | xmonad ftw ;) |
| 00:43.46 | SynrG | our just a wm |
| 00:43.52 | SynrG | great |
| 00:44.02 | SynrG | that'll do :-) |
| 00:44.15 | SynrG | xorg meta, yup |
| 00:44.17 | solrize | i also have a 900a and a beaglebone black that i prob also want to get running |
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| 00:44.19 | squisher | if you want to go really bare, you should install in advanced mode and not even select the "select software" step. But then you even have to install stuff like less by hand |
| 00:44.24 | solrize | sec |
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| 00:44.33 | squisher | solrize, ^ but it gives you the most control over what gets installed |
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| 00:48.26 | solrize | squisher, thanks... i probably just want the simplest installation process... i do want to run xorg though. on servers i've just been using the base debian install but i haven't run modern debian on any desktops so far |
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| 00:49.32 | SynrG | solrize: to clarify … |
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| 00:50.06 | SynrG | the*installer* video may be unusable |
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| 00:50.28 | SynrG | unless you boot spending some vga=# parameter |
| 00:50.43 | SynrG | appendenug* some* |
| 00:51.10 | SynrG | argh, Google keyboard :-P |
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| 00:51.54 | solrize | hmm ok yeah i can probably figure that out and configure grub appropriately ? |
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| 00:52.01 | SynrG | i don't recall the exact vesa mode# |
| 00:52.09 | tidux | Jessie installer alpha1 doesn't respect alternate desktop choices |
| 00:52.20 | solrize | looks like there's an xfce cd should i use that? |
| 00:52.25 | tidux | I selected GNOME as an alternate desktop environment and it installed xfce |
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| 00:52.27 | SynrG | after install i dont think you need it |
| 00:52.51 | SynrG | you could use that. yah |
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| 00:52.59 | tidux | my RAM's doing weird things on that system, but I'll file a bug |
| 00:53.02 | tidux | once I fix the hardware |
| 00:53.10 | solrize | how much disk space to these cd's need? the server installs have a "minimal" template that's just 200mb or so |
| 00:53.18 | SynrG | you may wish to trim some extra stuff after install |
| 00:53.49 | solrize | i guess it's ok if the 2gb ssd ends up pretty full... i have an sdhd card that i can put user files on |
| 00:53.51 | solrize | sdhc |
| 00:54.19 | SynrG | yah |
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| 00:55.12 | SynrG | 2g? oh, so the model 2g surf? |
| 00:55.23 | solrize | oh hmm, maybe it has 4g |
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| 00:55.42 | SynrG | that's the usual one |
| 00:55.49 | solrize | i may be confused... i have several vps's with just 2g and i may be thinking of those... debian runs great on them |
| 00:55.52 | iceisfun | i have a default debian 7.4 installation and /dev/sda and /dev/sdb seem to be swapped after installation |
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| 00:56.06 | SynrG | ya |
| 00:56.06 | iceisfun | and when the system starts it fails because /dev/sda fails fsck |
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| 00:56.36 | SynrG | uuid ftw |
| 00:56.48 | SynrG | !uuid |
| 00:56.50 | dpkg | A Universally Unique IDentifier (UUID) is used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with 'blkid'. In /etc/fstab, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. UUIDs help to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire. |
| 00:56.53 | iceisfun | it has uuid in fstab |
| 00:57.13 | SynrG | strange |
| 00:57.27 | iceisfun | this is a stock install with one sata disk and a raid controller, all files on / with the sata disk |
| 00:58.37 | SynrG | tired. and tablet virtual keyboard is no fun. gnite. |
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| 01:00.58 | iceisfun | I've seen this problem before on a earlier debian 5 release too, I think I had to boot with a recovery disk and edit the uuid/fstab stuff to get it to boot |
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| 01:13.12 | dvs | get out! :-P |
| 01:13.27 | jetscreamer | no |
| 01:13.41 | dvs | you missed the net split. |
| 01:13.53 | jetscreamer | damn! |
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| 01:14.57 | bt6 | For some reason the "1" character isn't showing on my computer. Is there a way to refresh my display/fonts to fix this without restarting the computer? |
| 01:15.34 | jetscreamer | X or console? |
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| 01:36.52 | jetscreamer | bt6: X or console? |
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| 01:57.31 | xbr3031 | does debian have a way to support BCM4313 network controllers without resorting to ndiswrapper? it's an internal wifi card |
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| 01:58.25 | nevyn | !bcm4313 |
| 01:58.26 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727) - incorrectly identified as BCM4727 by Broadcom's proprietary driver - is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset. Not supported by the <b43> driver at this time. For device support, ask about me about <brcmsmac>, <wl>. Not to be confused with the <bcm4331>. |
| 01:58.37 | nevyn | sounds bad |
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| 01:59.07 | xbr3031 | :( |
| 01:59.10 | xbr3031 | thanks anyways |
| 02:00.17 | centrx | xbr3031, Did you ask dpkg about brcmsmac ? |
| 02:00.29 | abrotman | xbr3031: uhm .. use the open source wl driver |
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| 02:02.11 | nevyn | oh. |
| 02:02.12 | xbr3031 | don't know how to ask dpkg anything. thanks abrotman, i'm looking up the wl driver now |
| 02:02.14 | nevyn | my bad |
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| 02:02.25 | nevyn | xbr3031: /msg dpkg wl |
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| 02:04.59 | witheld | I'm on 64bit, just did this install, and aptitude is refusing to work, clamiming "everypackagename conflicts with everypackagename:i386" |
| 02:05.30 | witheld | Anyone know why aptitude would even be trying to install i386 versions of everything...alongside 64bit versions? |
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| 02:05.50 | Sir_Designer | dependencies? |
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| 02:06.13 | witheld | Sir_Designer: aptitude things every package depends on the i386 version of itself |
| 02:06.16 | witheld | this is the problem |
| 02:06.31 | Sir_Designer | best to ask the packaging team |
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| 02:07.14 | witheld | thinks* |
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| 02:11.48 | witheld | worse dpkg isn't even configured for i386 multicarch |
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| 02:15.41 | centrx | !bcm4313 |
| 02:15.42 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727) - incorrectly identified as BCM4727 by Broadcom's proprietary driver - is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset. Not supported by the <b43> driver at this time. For device support, ask about me about <brcmsmac>, <wl>. Not to be confused with the <bcm4331>. |
| 02:15.46 | centrx | woops |
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| 02:18.31 | average | abrotman: you there ? |
| 02:19.00 | average | is it possible to get Debian security news/updates through some IRC bot ? |
| 02:19.52 | abrotman | average: not that I know of |
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| 02:21.42 | centrx | average, Why? |
| 02:22.37 | average | centrx: Why not? |
| 02:22.52 | centrx | average, You could make one. |
| 02:23.01 | average | I guess I could.. |
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| 02:25.28 | xbr3031 | got the wl module working. :) |
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| 02:54.16 | Abbott | does debian support upstart? |
| 02:55.06 | dvs | soon |
| 02:55.07 | somiaj | Abbott: it was one considered in the debate, but I think in the end debian went with systemd and you won't get the best support with others without some work |
| 02:57.12 | centrx | Abbott, upstart is in Debian and apparently works with installed services, but Debian packages are not designed with upstart in mind. |
| 02:57.52 | Abbott | it just seems like there are too many options to make a service start at boot |
| 02:58.03 | abrotman | Abbott: yes, the package is there, and it supposedly works |
| 02:58.20 | abrotman | somiaj: that's for Jessie and beyond .. Upstart should work in Wheezy |
| 02:58.30 | abrotman | *should* |
| 02:59.16 | Abbott | I'm following a guide that makes irssi start up with the screen command so it's running in the background and the guide says to use crontab: |
| 02:59.18 | Abbott | crontab -e |
| 02:59.20 | Abbott | @reboot /usr/bin/screen -d -m irssi |
| 02:59.33 | Abbott | but I really can't figure out what exactly that's doing so i'm hesitant to just run the commands |
| 03:00.27 | somiaj | Abbott: cron runs commands at periodic intervals. Running that as a user will have cron run the command /usr/bin/screen -d -m irssi during the condition 'reboot' |
| 03:00.35 | somiaj | you can man cron for more info |
| 03:01.17 | somiaj | sorry 'man 5 crontab' would be more useful |
| 03:01.24 | abrotman | Abbott: man screen ? |
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| 03:11.03 | Abbott | it's not screen i'm having trouble with just getting irssi to start up in a screen on boot |
| 03:11.18 | Abbott | does the condition reboot not apply to just turning on? |
| 03:12.30 | somiaj | Abbott: as I said, 'man 5 crontab' and read, @reboot Run once, at startup. |
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| 03:12.39 | Abbott | yeah i just got to there, sorry |
| 03:12.51 | Abbott | is it bad practice to use crontab for startup? it seems too easy |
| 03:13.27 | somiaj | it even has a note that says this is based on when the cron daemon starts, so if it cron is started while running it could be an issue, I bet if you did a bit more with screen (giving it a unique id name) it would error out ifit is already running |
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| 03:14.08 | somiaj | depends on what you run at startup. Most services should have a full init script so it can be started, stoped and restarted from the script (including changing runlevels, though not many do that any more) |
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| 03:14.32 | somiaj | but for something simple like this, I think cron would be the easiest because then it runs it as the correct user |
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| 03:21.46 | cafuego | Abbott: You're not using a solution because it's too easy? ;-) |
| 03:22.17 | cafuego | Abbott: Add a nagios or sensu check to whine if the host is up but irssi isn't ;-) |
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| 03:37.18 | houn | Hello, #Debian |
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| 03:45.02 | safridzal | i'm currently running stable right now, but i want to use more recent radeon driver (based on phoroenix.com radeon driver get faster and faster).. can I just upgrade the kernel from testing? or i need to install more package? |
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| 03:47.17 | safridzal | sorry, dc |
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| 03:48.33 | centrx | safridzal, Use wheezy-backports |
| 03:48.38 | centrx | dpkg: tell safridzal about wheezy-backports |
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| 03:49.30 | houn | centrx: I don't see a backport for radeon drivers. |
| 03:49.59 | safridzal | isnt radeon driver is included on the kernel?? |
| 03:50.01 | centrx | houn, He said they were in the kernel. I don't know much more than that |
| 03:51.59 | somiaj | A portion of the driver is included in the kernel, another portion is included in xorg, though I think most the preformance comes from the kernel side |
| 03:52.13 | somiaj | you will also need to install firmware-linux-nonfree if you want full 3d support from the driver. |
| 03:53.18 | safridzal | somiaj: do i need to upgrade xorg too? |
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| 03:53.57 | somiaj | safridzal: I think the xorg driver is only an api to talk to the kernel driver, so my guess is it won't give you much if you did. If there is a newer version in wheezy backports you could try |
| 03:54.05 | wallbroken_j | ehy guys |
| 03:54.15 | wallbroken_j | debian is systemd or init? |
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| 03:54.37 | somiaj | wallbroken_j: wheezy is still sysvinit but you can install systemd on it if you want |
| 03:54.50 | somiaj | wallbroken_j: jessie (the next release) and the forseable future has switched to systemd |
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| 03:55.47 | wallbroken_j | oh, do i need to wait 4 years? |
| 03:55.58 | somiaj | 4 years for what? |
| 03:56.04 | wallbroken_j | for the next stable release |
| 03:56.08 | somiaj | as I said you can install systemd and use it on wheezy if you like, it just isn't default |
| 03:56.25 | somiaj | I would say closer to 2 at this time, maybe 3 |
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| 04:03.02 | centrx | Next release is next year |
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| 04:05.30 | somiaj | centrx: I was expecting the freeze in a year or so, but release is still a ways out from that |
| 04:05.54 | centrx | Freeze is scheduled for November 15. |
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| 04:07.15 | centrx | Longest release wait ever was 2 years 11 months, and that was an unusual situation never repeated |
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| 04:12.32 | safridzal | its my 1st time using backports.. and my english isnt good.. what is sloppy on backport?? do i need to add it to my sources.list?? |
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| 04:13.47 | somiaj | afiak sloppy is for upgrading from one release to the next when you have backports included |
| 04:14.11 | mcurran | anybody know why today's updates on debian/unstable want to remove gdm3 and basically all of gnome3/shell |
| 04:14.33 | safridzal | somiaj: owh, great, so i dont it it yet. i install this system from wheezy iso |
| 04:14.46 | somiaj | safridzal: I was slighty off there, backports come from testing, so with wheezy-backports you don't need sloppy |
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| 04:15.18 | somiaj | safridzal: but if you were running squeeze and wanted a backport from jessie, that is a sloppy backport because it skips and release upgrade cyclec (causing potiential upgrade problems in the future) |
| 04:15.18 | mcurran | Does anyone know how I can identify the current package that is throwing off aptitude and wants it to resolve something by removing gnome3 |
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| 04:15.25 | safridzal | cool, thanks somiaj |
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| 04:16.26 | mcurran | well I think it has to be an upgrade issue, because if I do a install -f, everything is fine, maybe libmutter or something has been bumped but the rest haven't yet. |
| 04:17.12 | mcurran | ah, libclutter-1.0-0 : Breaks: libcogl12 but 1.14.0-3 is installed. |
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| 04:25.28 | safridzal | done installing new kernel.. reboot |
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| 04:39.03 | mooglenorph | Hi, can wheezy format and use a 4TB USB hard drive? |
| 04:39.15 | mooglenorph | I know I need gpt support for this, and I can install gnu parted from apt |
| 04:39.35 | mooglenorph | But doesn't the kernel need to be built with support for gpt? Is wheezy's kernel built with this support |
| 04:40.04 | pippijn | hi |
| 04:40.17 | pippijn | is there any way to find out what packages are recommended by all installed packages? |
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| 04:42.15 | AmonX | Anyone have any tips on installing a distro based on slink on new PC's |
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| 04:51.46 | mooglenorph | Okay better question: is the default wheezy kernel built with CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION ? How can I find this out? |
| 04:53.15 | somiaj | mooglenorph: all debian kerel packages contain the config file put at /boot/config-ver |
| 04:53.42 | somiaj | mooglenorph: on my wheezy machine that file has "CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION=y" |
| 04:53.54 | mooglenorph | somiaj: so they do! thanks. |
| 04:56.33 | AmonX | :P |
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| 05:00.22 | AmonX | Anyone here familiar with corel linux? and have tips for running it either on a new pc or virtual one? it was based on slink. |
| 05:00.55 | somiaj | AmonX: shoudln't that be a question for the corel linux support community, this is #debian. |
| 05:01.33 | AmonX | it pretty much just is slink :) which is why I am asking here |
| 05:01.59 | zykotick9 | AmonX: corel linux is long dead... see "/msg dpkg based on debian" |
| 05:02.13 | somiaj | AmonX: based on debian is not supported here, and yea looks like corel is long dead. |
| 05:03.20 | zykotick9 | corel linux was the 1st gnu/linux distro i used in 1999 |
| 05:04.12 | AmonX | same with me zykotick9 which is why I love messing around with it... I was trying to update everything it in and have it usable |
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| 05:05.12 | z8z | anyone knows when 7.5 release is coming? |
| 05:05.20 | AmonX | Okay let me ask this then :) what do people here have the most luck with running old Debian distros in windows with? ie Vmware VirtualBox VirtualPC Bochs etc |
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| 05:14.44 | rjsalts | AmonX: a 486? |
| 05:15.09 | rjsalts | AmonX: I haven't run something as old as slink since then |
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| 05:15.26 | somiaj | z8z: if you install all security updates and maybe add wheezy-updates to your sources.list you will get any update for 7.5 |
| 05:15.57 | somiaj | z8z: 7.5 is nothing more than 7.4 + security updates (you should be installing those anywaons) and some bugfixes, maybe adding some hardware support to the kernel |
| 05:16.25 | somiaj | z8z: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases |
| 05:17.10 | z8z | somiaj: thanks i already know what a point release is and include but i was asking about the date since i need for an offline pc |
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| 05:17.41 | somiaj | z8z: when its ready, debian doens't have a release date structure. |
| 05:18.15 | somiaj | z8z: I think the point releases seem to be every few months. |
| 05:19.07 | z8z | somiaj: yeah maybe detailed question was if they are going to release little earlier since this time it includes major release of iceweasel to 24 |
| 05:20.04 | somiaj | yea I did notice they have changed their stance on webbrowsers, I was kinda disapointed when my chormium had a major version upgrade |
| 05:20.46 | AmonX | well thank you :) and sorry for asking a non debian question :P |
| 05:20.55 | somiaj | z8z: why not just download the required few .deb files from packages.debian.org if you are just wanting to get the newer iceweasel on the machine? |
| 05:21.31 | z8z | somiaj: yeah i was just lazy to check manually :D |
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| 05:22.18 | somiaj | z8z: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/iceweasel -- yea seems as if 24.4.0exr-1~deb7u2 is in security, (: |
| 05:23.05 | somiaj | I need to keep up on the mailing lists more, wonder when they decided to change the frozen policy on webbrowsers, maybe they decided it was to much work to backport security fixes and upstream didn't want anything to do with it if I recall correctly |
| 05:23.16 | z8z | somiaj: ok ... then i got to take my pendrive out and do the job |
| 05:23.40 | somiaj | z8z: I belive the icewasel and xlrunner deb are the only two you need. But not for sure on that. |
| 05:23.44 | z8z | somiaj: I have already checked... they cannot follow the backporting work anymore |
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| 05:27.18 | z8z | somiaj: i have no idea but maybe this version may include some extra package for external mp3 stuff or something else for media... i dunno! |
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| 05:28.10 | no_gravity | Hmm.. i sshed into a machine, then the connection broke. sshed again and trying to kill my old bash. but it wont die! do i have to kill -9? why? |
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| 05:29.44 | z8z | somiaj: Ok got to go now... thanks for you effort in giving me the strength to do that :D |
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| 07:12.11 | DarsVaeda | Hi, what is a good tool for testing harddrives for errors? |
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| 07:13.11 | wols_ | DarsVaeda: smartmon-tools |
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| 07:13.27 | DarsVaeda | does that come with the live cd? |
| 07:13.53 | anton02 | why does iwconfig report that i have a wireless device using 802.11 a/b/g when in actuality it's none of those mentioned. It's in fact 802.11n |
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| 07:17.32 | wols_ | DarsVaeda: IIRC yes |
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| 07:45.05 | DarsVaeda | it didn't but I have network access |
| 07:45.06 | DarsVaeda | thanks |
| 07:45.23 | DarsVaeda | although it does not seem to do much when I initiate a scan |
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| 07:48.18 | petern_ | So I'm running 7 virtual machines, and the thing that takes up most memory? Gnome Shell... |
| 07:48.24 | petern_ | Good morning ;p |
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| 08:26.18 | engblom | Debian seem to not have the saltstack for mass administration. What is the preferred way? |
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| 08:33.40 | centrx | engblom, There are several salt packages in wheezy-backports, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=salt |
| 08:33.45 | centrx | dpkg: tell engblom about wheezy-backports |
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| 08:34.11 | engblom | Ah, OK! |
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| 08:44.02 | ehegal | hi |
| 08:44.26 | sandman13 | how do you upgrade kde 4.8 to 4.10/4.11? |
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| 08:48.34 | petern_ | 4.10 is in jessie |
| 08:48.36 | SynrG | sandman13: there is no kde 4.11 in wheezy, nor a backport |
| 08:49.01 | SynrG | so the answer is 'wait' |
| 08:49.08 | sandman13 | 4.10? |
| 08:49.18 | petern_ | Well, wheezy only has 4.8 |
| 08:50.13 | sandman13 | latest is wheezy right? |
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| 08:50.35 | musca | yes and no |
| 08:50.36 | petern_ | Oh, jessie has 4.11 actually, whoops. |
| 08:50.54 | SynrG | ,v kde-runtime |
| 08:50.54 | sandman13 | yws and no? |
| 08:50.54 | judd | Package: kde-runtime on i386 -- wheezy: 4:4.8.4-2; jessie: 4:4.11.3-1; sid: 4:4.11.5-1; experimental: 4:4.12.3-1 |
| 08:50.55 | SynrG | yes |
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| 08:52.23 | musca | sandman13: wheezy is released and will not get new packages besides security updates. |
| 08:52.47 | SynrG | sandman13: technically, it is not ready yet, but it is possible to upgrade. however, you would be leaving stable, and that is not recommended. |
| 08:53.28 | sandman13 | Synr6: does that mean KDE apps don't get updates? |
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| 08:54.12 | SynrG | they don't in stable releases, no. |
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| 09:20.11 | waka_waka | how can i talk to robot |
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| 09:22.45 | CryptoSiD | when i use service apache2 restart it show me the code from the init.d/apache2, on ubuntu, if anyone have an idea how to fix this lemme know |
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| 09:37.51 | norberhuis | Hello, I am trying to setup an acces point from one pc to others using hostapd. When I try to connect the clients do not connect and disconnect by local choice reason=3. What is can be the problem? |
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| 09:39.12 | SynrG | norberhuis: what kind of encryption? |
| 09:39.34 | norberhuis | SynrG: I am using no encryption currently |
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| 09:40.32 | norberhuis | But I have tried with encryption and i get the same reason |
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| 09:40.46 | divel | Hi, I am trying to run the CEWE soft of Fotobook24.com software. It seems to work in Wheezy 32-bit but not in 64-bit, when I run it simply does nothing.- I have installed ia32-libs. Any idea? |
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| 09:41.36 | SynrG | norberhuis: so, no clients connect and they all give this reason? |
| 09:42.10 | JyZyXEL | where can i find the source code for the debian installer? |
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| 09:43.20 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/CheckOut |
| 09:43.24 | babilen | JyZyXEL: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller#Development |
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| 09:43.57 | babilen | pick your poison |
| 09:44.06 | SynrG | :) |
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| 09:47.07 | JyZyXEL | mr bootstrap: finished (1 ok; 99 failed; 16 skipped) |
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| 09:47.28 | JyZyXEL | well that didn't work at all |
| 09:47.30 | CryptoSiD | when i use service apache2 restart it show me the code from the init.d/apache2, on ubuntu, if anyone have an idea how to fix this lemme know |
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| 09:49.59 | JyZyXEL | i need the full source where i can see the commands the installer executes |
| 09:50.22 | JyZyXEL | and config files it installs |
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| 09:50.56 | themill | precisely what command did you use? |
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| 09:51.16 | JyZyXEL | the commands and files for what it uses to do lvm over luks boot |
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| 09:53.06 | JyZyXEL | i tried the mr bootstrap http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i/trunk/.mrconfig?view=co debian-installer |
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| 09:54.24 | monsune | how do i remove a MAC from this list? brctl showmacs vmbr0 |
| 09:56.13 | themill | JyZyXEL: that doesn't sound right |
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| 09:56.30 | JyZyXEL | its from the wiki |
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| 09:56.57 | themill | JyZyXEL: that's one of the commands on the wiki for a particular use case |
| 09:57.56 | themill | trying the last command on the page that isn't for you while ignore the first one that is ... |
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| 09:59.51 | JyZyXEL | svn co svn://anonscm.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk debian-installer gets some files but not the full source it seems |
| 09:59.56 | JyZyXEL | and mr -p checkout |
| 09:59.59 | JyZyXEL | mr checkout: finished (1 skipped) |
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| 10:00.28 | themill | what precisely did you run? |
| 10:00.37 | JyZyXEL | Anonymous checkout commands |
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| 10:01.14 | themill | Sorry, I'm bored with pulling teeth. |
| 10:01.36 | JyZyXEL | i just did it in the wrong directory |
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| 10:03.21 | JyZyXEL | this of course is gonna be much newer than what the wheezy installer is |
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| 10:15.56 | doublehp | any one can help me on my first git day ? #git have not been helpfull, and following tutos to the letter did not work |
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| 10:16.39 | babilen | doublehp: Well, #git is the channel for git support not #debian and I am afraid that I would have to tell you that your question is off-topic in here. |
| 10:17.03 | mpavel | doublehp: github have some good help as well, check it out https://help.github.com/categories/54/articles |
| 10:17.08 | doublehp | i know it's OT, just asking if any one can /msg me |
| 10:17.18 | babilen | doublehp: Apart from that I can't find your question in my #git backlog, so please take it there. |
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| 10:18.08 | doublehp | babilen: question have been asked 36h ago; it's OT here, /msg if you feel like it |
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| 10:21.30 | m1zar | hey all. My log is getting full of messages like that "kernel: [ 5723.180463] block drbd10: ASSERT( i >= 0 ) in drivers/block/drbd/drbd_int.h:2052" Any idea what's going on here? |
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| 10:22.38 | m1zar | the node is working fine, it has state connected and uptodate. But I don't understand why every second tons of these logs are produced ? |
| 10:22.52 | mjt | that's a _very_ good question to drbd guys |
| 10:23.09 | mjt | i think you should hurry up asking it :) |
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| 10:23.51 | mjt | http://www.drbd.org/home/irc/ -- #drbd on freenode :) |
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| 10:41.10 | CryptoSiD | when i use service apache2 restart it show me the code from the init.d/apache2, on ubuntu, if anyone have an idea how to fix this lemme know |
| 10:41.15 | CryptoSiD | no one can help me with this? |
| 10:41.22 | CryptoSiD | oups i should have removed the ubuntu part |
| 10:41.28 | CryptoSiD | but ubuntu use the debian init.d script |
| 10:41.28 | CryptoSiD | so |
| 10:41.32 | CryptoSiD | shouldnt be an issue |
| 10:41.45 | ikonia | :q! |
| 10:41.48 | ikonia | oops |
| 10:42.29 | nkuttler | CryptoSiD: no, you should ask #ubuntu and not lie to us when asking questions.. |
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| 10:43.44 | CryptoSiD | did i lie? |
| 10:43.55 | SynrG | !based on debian |
| 10:43.55 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 10:44.05 | nkuttler | CryptoSiD: < CryptoSiD> oups i should have removed the ubuntu part |
| 10:44.06 | CryptoSiD | i tryed ubuntu someone told me to ask here and on #httpd |
| 10:44.11 | CryptoSiD | no one want to help me such sad! |
| 10:44.14 | SynrG | someone is wrong |
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| 10:44.22 | CryptoSiD | nkuttler yeah was just kidding:) |
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| 10:44.23 | nkuttler | CryptoSiD: right, that person was wrong |
| 10:44.41 | nkuttler | #httpd doesn't help with distro problem either, and certainly not debian-based ones |
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| 10:44.49 | CryptoSiD | i agree, even more with httpd |
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| 10:45.08 | CryptoSiD | well ill try in ubuntu again then |
| 10:45.55 | SynrG | CryptoSiD: there is a false sense of time on irc, where a person seeking help may think "on irc, i can get instant answers. i want my answer *now*, so i'll only check on irc" |
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| 10:46.09 | SynrG | if your irc channel is unresponsive, try some other support avenue. forums or so |
| 10:46.25 | CryptoSiD | ive tryed googling in fact, i just dont get what i should search to get he right answer |
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| 10:46.48 | SynrG | depending on who is around / how well stated/interesting your problem is, you may get answers just as fast |
| 10:47.26 | JyZyXEL | in the debian wheezy installer when i select "Encryption method" i get a red screen with an error box saying "Failed to download crypto components" |
| 10:48.07 | nkuttler | JyZyXEL: network down? |
| 10:48.09 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: 'the debian wheezy installer' meaning the prebuilt images or one you built yourself? |
| 10:48.26 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: i just downloaded the latest net-install image |
| 10:48.26 | SynrG | (since you were asking about checking out the source earlier ...) |
| 10:48.38 | SynrG | did the network configuration succeed? |
| 10:48.39 | JyZyXEL | nkuttler: well the setting up network stage completed succesfully |
| 10:48.51 | JyZyXEL | ill redo it just in case |
| 10:48.56 | SynrG | wireless? |
| 10:49.09 | JyZyXEL | nope, wired |
| 10:49.38 | SynrG | check syslog and see if it has details about the site being contacted. open a shell and test connectivity to that site. |
| 10:49.53 | n0buddy | any germans in this room ? |
| 10:50.17 | SynrG | !de |
| 10:50.18 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 10:51.00 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: it doesn't have any details about whats being connected |
| 10:51.54 | nkuttler | JyZyXEL: switch to a console and test if you can ping something external |
| 10:52.00 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: only thing that seems to print from that error: anna-install: Installing partman-crypto-loop |
| 10:52.08 | nkuttler | JyZyXEL: iirc one tty has the installer log as well |
| 10:52.11 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: let's assume it's earlier in the log ... |
| 10:52.19 | SynrG | and would be whichever mirror you configured. |
| 10:52.24 | SynrG | that part succeeded? |
| 10:52.39 | n0buddy | !de |
| 10:52.40 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 10:52.40 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: i can ping websites just fine |
| 10:52.42 | n0buddy | xD |
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| 10:52.54 | n0buddy | !de |
| 10:52.55 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 10:53.01 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: yes, but is the specific mirror you selected contactable? if not, select another one. |
| 10:53.13 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: or maybe it is broken/incomplete |
| 10:53.15 | JyZyXEL | ah, well i gotta load up the select mirror plugin |
| 10:53.39 | JyZyXEL | nkuttler: tty4 seems to be printing syslog by default |
| 10:53.53 | SynrG | n0buddy: ok. you have the info three times ... please don't play with the bot. or if you want more info from the bot, /msg dpkg |
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| 10:55.03 | SynrG | JyZyXEL: but tty4 won't have a lot of the earlier stuff. hence my suggestion you explore in a shell |
| 10:55.25 | SynrG | it would contain, i think, the name of the mirror you selected (if any). or else you ought to be able to recall that detail. |
| 10:55.45 | JyZyXEL | i changed the mirror and it didn't help |
| 10:55.53 | SynrG | whether or not it is contactable and that module is present is discoverable by browsing the mirror |
| 10:56.02 | SynrG | are you using a netinst image that actually matches the current release? |
| 10:56.06 | SynrG | or an older one |
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| 10:56.19 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: debian-7.4.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 10:56.37 | SynrG | should be ok |
| 10:56.45 | SynrG | ,v partman-crypto-loop |
| 10:56.46 | judd | No package named 'partman-crypto-loop' was found in i386. |
| 10:56.46 | JyZyXEL | i've now tried 3 mirrors |
| 10:56.49 | SynrG | humm |
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| 10:57.19 | JyZyXEL | the error is classified as Template: partman-crypto/install_udebs_failure |
| 10:57.29 | SynrG | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=partman-crypto-loop |
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| 10:57.33 | SynrG | there is no such module |
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| 10:57.39 | SynrG | only for squeeze. |
| 10:57.49 | SynrG | how did you even get to a screen where that could be selected? |
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| 10:58.23 | JyZyXEL | SynrG: its in the Partition settings menu the selection "encryption method" |
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| 10:58.40 | JyZyXEL | it has dm-crypt by default and doesn't even let you choose LUKS |
| 10:59.02 | SynrG | it may be that the partman-crypto-loop error is non-fatal and the red screen is something else. |
| 10:59.09 | SynrG | shrugs |
| 10:59.19 | JyZyXEL | well in any case it doesn't let you choose anything because of that error |
| 10:59.34 | SynrG | correlation is not causality |
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| 11:00.08 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if dm-crypt actually means LUKS in the installer |
| 11:00.11 | SynrG | there is an error in the log. there is a red screen. we have not established one causes the other. |
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| 11:00.34 | SynrG | are there any other errors that might be relevant? |
| 11:00.45 | SynrG | are you looking back far enough in syslog? |
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| 11:01.32 | JyZyXEL | quite a lot of errors for something that is supposed to be stable |
| 11:01.59 | JyZyXEL | mostly just references to stuff that doesn't not exist |
| 11:02.19 | JyZyXEL | so might be just warnings |
| 11:02.27 | SynrG | that's what i'm thinking |
| 11:02.28 | nkuttler | JyZyXEL: try #debian-boot on oftc |
| 11:02.41 | SynrG | as for "i wonder if ..." |
| 11:02.46 | SynrG | there is an installation guide. :) wonder no more. |
| 11:03.12 | SynrG | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch07s02.html.en#mount-dm-crypt |
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| 11:03.37 | JyZyXEL | looks like dm-crypt actually means luks |
| 11:03.43 | SynrG | yes |
| 11:04.08 | SynrG | has to work. later |
| 11:04.09 | JyZyXEL | i think it would be more correct to call it LUKS |
| 11:04.15 | SynrG | shrugs |
| 11:04.25 | petn-randall | Well, you could use dm-crypt without a luks header, I guess, just like in the dark ages. But there's no advantage in it other than some level of obfuscation. |
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| 11:16.09 | Dexterp91 | Hey guys, has anyone here got any experience in android development? |
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| 11:16.44 | SynrG | a) offtopic and b) don't ask 'anyone', but if it is really a debian problem, say exactly what it is you want support for. |
| 11:17.06 | jelly | Dexterp91: you can use "/msg alis list *android*" to try and find a more suitable channel |
| 11:17.11 | SynrG | there is a channel #android |
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| 11:18.18 | SynrG | hmm. i said i had to work. and yet here i am. baffling. |
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| 11:19.00 | SynrG | opens a scroll of +10 invisibility and casts it on #debian |
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| 11:19.36 | Deele | hello |
| 11:20.36 | Deele | Could anyone suggest some some "easy way for nix newbie" to create virtual machine on debian server? |
| 11:20.56 | yuyu | moshitesu |
| 11:21.26 | rozie | Deele: aquemu |
| 11:21.37 | rozie | aqemu* |
| 11:21.39 | Scruffy | Deele google dot com "how to install xen on debian" |
| 11:22.10 | Scruffy | rozie : in 2014, Qemu is over :) |
| 11:22.29 | daemonkeeper | Both, Xen and KVM use qemu internally. |
| 11:23.06 | Scruffy | Xen is Xen, and KVM is KVM. |
| 11:23.28 | daemonkeeper | And both use qemu for full virtualized domains that need a legacy access layer. |
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| 11:23.54 | daemonkeeper | and/or virtio only. |
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| 11:28.15 | babilen | Deele: If your hardware supports it you could look into virsh + kvm |
| 11:29.09 | Deele | babilen is it better that xen? |
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| 11:30.48 | babilen | Deele: That question is impossible to answer without knowing what constitutes "better" for you and what you will do with it. Both Xen and KVM are certainly reasonable choices, but then you might like VMWare or just use Amazon AWS or .... |
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| 11:31.47 | rozie | Scruffy: elaborate pls? |
| 11:31.58 | Deele | babilen, I need something "beginner friendly" and free. I like VMWare workstation on my win machine, but I that is commercial product. |
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| 11:32.48 | andry | why not vmware player for linux? |
| 11:33.00 | andry | (for a beginner) |
| 11:33.02 | babilen | Deele: yes, hence my recommendation of virsh (libvirt) with kvm |
| 11:33.05 | rozie | Deele: aqemu seems to be fine |
| 11:33.09 | Deele | I'm not the one to answer that, I need to start with something |
| 11:33.15 | Deele | I can't test everything right now |
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| 11:33.36 | rozie | just install it. looks pretty much like virtualbox, but doesn't have kernel dependecies |
| 11:33.38 | andry | libvirt is very nice, but needs some time to get into |
| 11:33.51 | babilen | Deele: KVM is reasonably fast and virsh is (IMHO) easy to use (CLI) .. if you look for a GUI tool use virt-manager (also libvirt) to do the same. |
| 11:34.08 | Deele | so many opinions.... |
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| 11:35.04 | rozie | Deele: if you want us to agree on one choice - forget ;) |
| 11:35.30 | rozie | testing aquemu is like: apt-get install aqemu, and run the program (GUI) |
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| 11:36.21 | babilen | notes a similarly easy "apt-get install virt-manager" -- but then they are just different frontends. |
| 11:36.23 | Deele | ok, that sounds easy enough |
| 11:36.30 | andry | < never used aqemu, looks nice, i will have a look into it :P |
| 11:37.11 | andry | i am used to virsh, but why not a gui when im on a desktop |
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| 11:38.08 | babilen | They differ, for example, in GUI toolkit (GTK for virt-manager and QT for aqemu) and certain other things, but I would personally recommend to use libvirt in the back ... doesn't matter which frontend is being used. |
| 11:38.13 | idimmu | ive just parted #ubuntu |
| 11:38.14 | Brigo | andry, virt-manager |
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| 11:39.55 | andry | oh, yes, aqemu comes as qt .. then virt-manager :P |
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| 12:36.53 | calisto | ?' |
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| 12:46.52 | calisto | hi , its posible config 2 dnsmasq in the same net to offer a principal dhcp and a bakup server? |
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| 12:48.12 | solydxk | hello im need help on my netbook |
| 12:48.19 | Mikaela | You don't need to repeat your question. |
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| 12:48.38 | solydxk | i cannot use number eight ? |
| 12:48.45 | Mikaela | I'm not sure if that is possible, because all clients would just take DHCP settings from the server which started first. |
| 12:48.52 | solydxk | on my keyboard |
| 12:48.53 | Mikaela | s/started/replies/ |
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| 12:50.58 | solydxk | hello im need help on my keyboard? |
| 12:51.48 | calisto | Mikaela: the repetition its my human error sorry, others servers dhcp resolve this problem, but I dnsmasq resolve the name server in the same configuration, its a great option |
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| 12:52.08 | solydxk | hello im need help please |
| 12:52.09 | petn-randall | solydxk: Does the key work in another OS? |
| 12:52.16 | solydxk | yes |
| 12:52.24 | solydxk | on windows 7 |
| 12:52.40 | solydxk | i did not expectthis problem |
| 12:52.44 | petn-randall | solydxk: Please be patient, if nobody answers, wait at least 30 minutes for people to read your message and respond. |
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| 12:53.04 | petn-randall | solydxk: And all the other keys work? |
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| 12:53.54 | solydxk | one to ten isworking except on eight |
| 12:55.14 | solydxk | because the windows 7 on this notebook is slow then ive decided to put linux on this notebook and i linux gave me so manny problems |
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| 12:56.06 | solydxk | im so disappoint |
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| 12:56.17 | solydxk | im using acer aspire one |
| 12:56.28 | petn-randall | solydxk: So you can open a text editor, and it does absolutely nothing? The number row turns up as 123456790? |
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| 12:57.17 | solydxk | eight is not working |
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| 12:57.40 | zw | Hi, I have * hard nofile 130000 and * soft nofile 130000 in my security/limits.conf |
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| 12:57.55 | zw | Still I can't set more then 4096 open files as a normal user with ulimit -n |
| 12:57.57 | zw | Any tips ? |
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| 12:58.20 | solydxk | why this is happening to me |
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| 12:59.22 | petn-randall | solydxk: If you switch to a TTY, does the 8 work there? |
| 12:59.40 | solydxk | what |
| 12:59.43 | rozie | solydxk: are you sure hardware is ok? |
| 12:59.54 | solydxk | yeah im sure |
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| 13:00.24 | solydxk | this is laptop |
| 13:00.25 | petn-randall | solydxk: You can switch to the console with strg+alt+F1, and switch back to your desktop environment with strg+alt+F7. |
| 13:00.48 | petn-randall | solydxk: I'm trying to determine if this is a GUI issue or at a lower level. |
| 13:01.13 | petn-randall | solydxk: Which release are you running? |
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| 13:01.36 | solydxk | im using solydx |
| 13:01.58 | SynrG | !solydx |
| 13:01.58 | dpkg | SolydX is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on debian> with the XFCE desktop environment. It is not supported in #debian. http://solydxk.com/products/solydx/ |
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| 13:02.38 | solydxk | but ive treid that on linux mint and its the same happening |
| 13:02.53 | solydxk | the eight is not functioning |
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| 13:03.01 | musca | ah, they even have their own repos :) |
| 13:03.07 | babilen | solydxk: Mint is not Debian either. We *only* support pure Debian in here for a number of technical and social reasons. |
| 13:03.08 | petn-randall | solydxk: Guess you have to ask solydX support. |
| 13:03.23 | solydxk | ok thanks |
| 13:03.29 | SynrG | there is #solydxk |
| 13:03.33 | SynrG | i'll update the factoid |
| 13:03.37 | babilen | +1 |
| 13:03.37 | solydxk | sorry |
| 13:03.48 | babilen | dpkg: tell solydxk -about install debian |
| 13:04.02 | babilen | solydxk: If you are ever interested in that. All the best and good luck! :) |
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| 13:06.25 | mihalybak | btw, is there any good reason why the debian unstable or #debian-next was placed on another server instead of just using this one? |
| 13:06.32 | oskie | does anyone know how to determine cpu utilization (in percent) in Linux? the reason I ask is not for myself but for Windoze users who have problem interpreting Load Average values |
| 13:06.44 | mihalybak | oskie: htop top |
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| 13:06.56 | themill | mihalybak: all debian channels are on oftc not freenode |
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| 13:07.35 | mihalybak | themill: they are? I always concidered freenode to be the main one, perhaps I was wrong then :) |
| 13:07.47 | themill | debian hasn't used freenode for 8 years |
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| 13:08.24 | mihalybak | themill: how do you mean? I have come here to talk debian for years? :S or you mean the other server is the more official? |
| 13:08.26 | SynrG | mihalybak: irc.debian.org -> irc.oftc.net |
| 13:08.36 | SynrG | mihalybak: not "more" official. just official. |
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| 13:09.29 | mihalybak | oh I remeber now from like way back. I never took that server serously because there are far more users on this server :) atleast it was last time i checked |
| 13:09.34 | themill | (that is not to say that this channel is not official... it's just that it's one of very few debian channels on freenode) |
| 13:10.04 | mihalybak | Now it is all clear :) |
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| 13:20.04 | shifty | any way to convince aptitude to download more than one file simultaneously? (seems to spend more time "between" files than actually downloading) |
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| 13:24.05 | shifty | or: something similar to "aptitude ... --download-only" that spits out the URL of resources to fetch so I can pre-fetch into /var/cache/aptitude/archive/ manually? |
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| 14:07.36 | Deele | which is better as server, Ubutunu Server edition or Debian netinstall? |
| 14:07.58 | OpenTokix | Deele: Debian netinstall ofc. |
| 14:08.14 | OpenTokix | Deele: Because reasons, and - well, debian rocks |
| 14:08.28 | Deele | What for Ubuntu Server edition is used then? |
| 14:08.46 | Deele | It has more drivers? |
| 14:08.49 | OpenTokix | Deele: Getting problems and ask about them on ubuntuforums I guess. |
| 14:08.58 | OpenTokix | Deele: this channel is dedicated to Debian |
| 14:09.09 | Deele | ok |
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| 14:09.26 | Deele | I never liked ubuntu either... |
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| 14:11.02 | mihalybak | I am pure debian person, but more drivers are avalible in ubuntu from scratch... thus making it easier to install |
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| 14:12.00 | OpenTokix | Or stop buying wierd hardware =) |
| 14:12.02 | OpenTokix | Another option |
| 14:12.03 | OpenTokix | =) |
| 14:12.30 | mihalybak | Well all the HP Proliant servers need a driver that is not on the debian netinstall |
| 14:12.35 | jelly | Deele: better for what? |
| 14:13.08 | Deele | jelly serving server serverware |
| 14:13.09 | mihalybak | for the NIC, thus making the netinstall unsable by it selfe |
| 14:13.11 | jelly | mihalybak: all of them? We have DL G3-G8 machines and Debian works on all |
| 14:13.56 | jelly | sure sometimes a backported kernel helps for very new hw |
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| 14:14.14 | mihalybak | jelly: Yea, I setup serveral of them with debian fine but it is a mess with the NIC and broadcom NIC |
| 14:14.59 | jelly | mihalybak: 10g? 1g? bnx2 pretty much just works if you give it firmware |
| 14:15.10 | jelly | !firmware images |
| 14:15.11 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 14:15.50 | mihalybak | yea that is exactly what I mean... you need to use unofficial "bootleg" netinstallers |
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| 14:16.06 | jelly | this is true. |
| 14:16.22 | mihalybak | I usually downloaded the dvd installa and then installed the firmware afterwards |
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| 14:16.42 | jelly | Debian won't ever _say_ they officially support the firmware images because they contain non-free bits |
| 14:16.59 | jelly | wink wink, nudge nudge |
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| 14:17.16 | mihalybak | yea I know the reasons with the social contract of keeping debian free :) |
| 14:17.21 | Deele | can you suggest any source that has similar step-by-step guide in securing and setting up webserver, like http://nickj.org/Debian_stable_Web_Server_step-by-step does? |
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| 14:17.39 | OpenTokix | jelly: well, that argument is kind of.... debateable =) About the firmware |
| 14:17.46 | mihalybak | but it doe not change the fact that ubunutu is easier to install on a server :) |
| 14:17.54 | jelly | OpenTokix: debatable? I agree it's non-free. |
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| 14:18.15 | jelly | mihalybak: yes, Canonical does not care about free software (as much) |
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| 14:19.23 | OpenTokix | jelly: yeah, but firmwares are in all hardware - but when its loadable its very important all of a sudden, but when its burnt in a prom, no problem? |
| 14:19.25 | mihalybak | jelly: they do but in this case they choose usability over free software. Where as debian did not |
| 14:19.50 | OpenTokix | I have never had probelems with supermicro hardware and debian stable, fyi |
| 14:19.57 | OpenTokix | So explain to HP with your wallet =) |
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| 14:20.06 | JyZyXEL | how do i list all the packages i have installed from backports? |
| 14:20.09 | jelly | mihalybak: debian merely fails to advertise the firmware images on the front page. |
| 14:20.28 | jelly | OpenTokix: supermicro's IPMI is subpar |
| 14:20.42 | jelly | ten foot pole, and all |
| 14:20.46 | OpenTokix | jelly: subpar in what regard? |
| 14:21.25 | jelly | usability and stability (but this is hearsay, I've stayed away from their boards for a decade) |
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| 14:21.41 | JyZyXEL | is it possible to remove the backported kernel package if it brought a newer version initramfs-tools with it? |
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| 14:23.16 | OpenTokix | jelly: I have used them for many years and they work very very well. |
| 14:23.42 | Deele | did anyone read my question? |
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| 14:24.05 | SynrG | mihalybak: i wouldn't characterize the unofficial images (which are, after all, signed) as "bootleg" |
| 14:24.37 | jelly | Deele: yes. Didn't have anything useful to answer or comment. |
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| 14:25.26 | mihalybak | SynrG: Well, that can be disscaused. Lets just leave it there :) Debian has a "social contract" stating that they will keep debian with free software only... these images break that contract, in my opinion |
| 14:25.33 | Deele | that guide is really helpful in understanding security concepts, but it is out of date, If I remember correctly, it is for Debian 6th |
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| 14:27.50 | SynrG | mihalybak: read the fine print? " We provide the guidelines that we use to determine if a work is "free" in the document entitled "The Debian Free Software Guidelines". We promise that the Debian system and all its components will be free according to these guidelines. We will support people who create or use both free and non-free works on Debian. We will never make the system require the use of a non-free component. |
| 14:28.30 | jelly | mihalybak: yeah. It also states the other priority is our users... keeping the balance between "our users" and "free software" requires some compromises |
| 14:28.45 | SynrG | mihalybak: ^^ all true. Debian is free and does not require use of a non-free component. there are systems, however, that can use *most* of debian but don't support it without a non-free component. but that's the system that requires that component, not debian. |
| 14:29.27 | SynrG | so the contract is not broken. we've held up our end. the vendors have not held up their end :p |
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| 14:29.52 | mihalybak | Well eitherway it is all good ;) |
| 14:29.55 | jelly | darn them vendors to heck |
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| 14:30.42 | JyZyXEL | ii initramfs-tools 0.115~bpo70+1 all generic modular initramfs generator |
| 14:30.45 | melt7777 | hi, we compiled a custom jessie kernel and i'm trying to install it in wheezy. i just can't seem to get the headers for it. the kernel is linux-image-3.12.9_1.0_amd64.deb and i did, aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-headers-3.12.9* and it doesn't like that, it installed linux-headers-3.12-0* instead. am i missing something here? |
| 14:30.51 | JyZyXEL | can i somehow remove that and replace it with the wheezy one? |
| 14:30.59 | mihalybak | jelly: yea, I mean how secret or good can that code in the bnx fireware be!? :) |
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| 14:31.12 | jelly | prefers "unofficial" fw images to be made by debian than be made and hosted by kmuto somewhere |
| 14:32.04 | jelly | JyZyXEL: sure, if nothing installed depends on a version newer than what's in wheezy |
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| 14:32.52 | JyZyXEL | i purged it and installed it again, now its in wheezy version |
| 14:33.03 | JyZyXEL | but my kernel is in some weird state now |
| 14:33.05 | JyZyXEL | pi linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 3.2.54-2 amd64 Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs |
| 14:33.07 | JyZyXEL | what is pi? |
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| 14:34.21 | JyZyXEL | perhaps i can just purge this too and install it agian |
| 14:34.36 | SynrG | it menas it is installed, but the desired state is to purge |
| 14:34.42 | SynrG | read the column headings |
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| 14:36.15 | mihalybak | JyZyXEL: try "apt-get -f install" |
| 14:36.29 | JyZyXEL | purging it and re-installing did the trick |
| 14:38.39 | SynrG | the only thing that was wrong was the *desired* state. purging was not necessary |
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| 14:39.34 | mihalybak | SynrG: how do you change just the "desired" state? |
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| 14:39.58 | SynrG | mihalybak: just apt-get install should do it, i think |
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| 14:42.12 | SynrG | mihalybak: echo linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 install | dpkg --set-selections |
| 14:43.00 | mihalybak | Intresting :) |
| 14:43.30 | SynrG | mihalybak: that's dpkg's state, not apt's |
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| 14:43.48 | SynrG | mihalybak: see also dpkg --clear-selections |
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| 14:44.29 | melt7777 | can i purge vim vim-runtime if we only use nano? |
| 14:44.35 | SynrG | ah, hmm. that seems to change it from 'p' to 'r' :) |
| 14:44.43 | SynrG | not what i expected |
| 14:45.26 | mihalybak | yea, dpkg is the "real" tool doing the work, but I have found that "apt-get -f install" gets things in better state or atleast points out which package is cause problems. |
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| 14:45.44 | SynrG | melt7777: vim-tiny is Priority: important, so would be included with 'standard' but is not required |
| 14:46.09 | mihalybak | SynrG: please dont spend more time on it for me :) I want not even the one with the issue :) just got curious :) |
| 14:46.11 | melt7777 | k |
| 14:46.11 | SynrG | mihalybak: but in this case, it only changes the manual status and doesn't clear the dpkg selection status |
| 14:46.13 | melt7777 | thanks syn |
| 14:46.32 | melt7777 | any ideas on the kernel headers on custom kernel thing? |
| 14:46.39 | SynrG | mihalybak: well, when i can't answer a question, it piques my own curiosity. still, after 19 years using Debian, always curious :) this is a good thing |
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| 14:47.53 | SynrG | melt7777: when you build your own kernel, you need to build your own matching headers. |
| 14:48.05 | SynrG | melt7777: you can't simply substitute a similar package from the archives |
| 14:48.08 | melt7777 | okay thats what we thought- thanks syn |
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| 14:48.18 | SynrG | np |
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| 14:49.04 | Sagar | Hello |
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| 14:50.53 | Sagar | i have users on my VPS. All i want is that users should be restricted to just open there /home/user/ folder and it's files only and cannot open any folder like in /var/www/ or something. On the other hand i am allowing users to put up there websites in /var/www/html/somewebsite so my main question is that they should be restricted to both there home directory and there var/www/html/somewebsite |
| 14:50.55 | Sagar | directory |
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| 14:55.21 | jhutchins | Sagar: Don't do that. |
| 14:55.27 | Sagar | ? |
| 14:55.41 | jhutchins | Put the user websites in $HOME/www |
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| 14:57.27 | Sagar | :o ok |
| 14:57.40 | Sagar | and how to restrict users to get outside there /home/ |
| 14:57.44 | Reelax1 | is there an environment variable in debian like Clipboard in Windows ? |
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| 14:58.56 | jhutchins | Sagar: Well, default is to just not worry about it and accept the default directory permissions. Chances are if you try messing with the default permissions you're going to mess up the system. |
| 14:59.31 | jhutchins | Sagar: If you feel a need for greater security you can study selinux, but there's a reason it's not enabled on Debian by default. |
| 14:59.41 | Sagar | well i have done a chown -R user:user /var/www/ |
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| 14:59.44 | Sagar | how to make it unset |
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| 15:00.27 | rysh | Sagar: it's it not handier to use public_html directories in user's home directories? |
| 15:00.55 | Sagar | rysh : what u mean? |
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| 15:01.35 | DammitJim | I just created a new machine with a new ssh key |
| 15:01.54 | DammitJim | is it normal to have to go to the ssh server, change the config to allow for logins w/o keys |
| 15:01.56 | rysh | public_html direcotries in user home directories are served by the webserver if the mod for public_html is enabled |
| 15:02.09 | DammitJim | copy the key over and then changing the config back to original? |
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| 15:03.08 | rysh | http://kimbriggs.com/computers/computer-notes/linux-notes/apache2-public_html-virtual-directories.file |
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| 15:03.21 | rysh | This is for Ubuntu, but the principle is the same |
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| 15:05.23 | Sagar | rysh : i used to make a folder in home directory instead, just guide me a way out on how to restrict user to there home directory only please :) |
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| 15:08.52 | somiaj | Sagar: need to be a bit more percise. Are you talking about ssh, and when a user ssh's to your machine you don't want them to be able to get outside of their $HOME dir? |
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| 15:10.18 | Sagar | see all i want is that they should be limited to there /home/%user directory they can't go outside it and view or list and file or folders outside it but they can use anything in there /home/%user folder |
| 15:10.24 | somiaj | Sagar: if so you can configure sshd_config with 'ChrootDirectory %h' |
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| 15:10.50 | Sagar | How to do it? |
| 15:10.52 | somiaj | Sagar: again it is important how your users login, if it is on a server and only via ssh, new ssh servers have an option to do that automatically. |
| 15:11.03 | Sagar | i want to make it from both SSH,FTP or SFTP |
| 15:11.28 | somiaj | Sagar: well the sshd_config file will effect ssh and sftp, but you would then have to configure your ftp server to do the same. |
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| 15:11.50 | Sagar | how can i do that? |
| 15:11.54 | Sagar | i have the root with me |
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| 15:14.31 | xhc_[slovakia] | hi .. how can I monitoring all connections via wlan0 and see if the connection is secured (for example ssl, https etc) ? |
| 15:14.35 | somiaj | Sagar: I just told you how to do it in ssh, as for your ftp client, look up how to chroot/jail your users with your ftp client. |
| 15:14.56 | DammitJim | is there a way to see how strong a key is in terms of 1024 or 2048? |
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| 15:14.59 | Sagar | can u guid me to a link? |
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| 15:16.41 | xhc_[slovakia] | best way in terminal |
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| 15:17.21 | somiaj | Sagar: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/ |
| 15:17.48 | somiaj | Sagar: again if telling you the exact command to put in your sshd_config file, that should be enough to modify your config file to allow for that. Then test it out |
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| 15:18.23 | Sagar | ok |
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| 15:18.25 | Sagar | let me try |
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| 15:23.08 | p3rror | hello |
| 15:23.28 | p3rror | How to calculate to sum of total RX and TX of my tun interfaces |
| 15:23.44 | p3rror | I need to pass to my PHP application |
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| 15:24.00 | p3rror | the amount of bandwidth of my linux box |
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| 15:24.15 | p3rror | also the amount of bandwidth of each tun interfaces |
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| 15:28.26 | OpenTokix | p3rror: you can look in /sys/class/net/tun0/statistics/rx_bytes /sys/class/net/tun0/statistics/tx_bytes with say 1s delay between to and that the diff |
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| 15:30.23 | p3rror | OpenTokix, when we talk about bandwidth |
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| 15:30.36 | p3rror | OpenTokix, is it the amount of RX or TX ? |
| 15:30.49 | OpenTokix | both, rx_bytes tx_bytes |
| 15:30.59 | OpenTokix | I have a script I use personally, let me pastebin it |
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| 15:31.23 | OpenTokix | p3rror: http://pastebin.com/Sr7rYzGK |
| 15:31.23 | p3rror | OpenTokix, OK thanks |
| 15:31.28 | vasuvi | I just did a dist-upgrade on sid, and noticed too late (yeah, yeah, my own fault) that, in upgrading part of GNOME, it uninstalled some rather crucial parts of it...is there any way to basically reverse the transaction? And any ETA on a full GNOME 3.14 on sid? |
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| 15:31.38 | OpenTokix | p3rror: This you can use on VERY busy hosts networkwise - and you will get stats. |
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| 15:31.54 | OpenTokix | p3rror: Not lile ntop or iptraf that will use quite the resources to run on a busy box |
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| 15:34.49 | somiaj | vasuvi: I don't think apt has a way to undo a transaction, you'll have to manually fix the problem. |
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| 15:35.30 | vasuvi | somiaj: rats; oh well, thanks anyway |
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| 15:36.11 | somiaj | vasuvi: there are logs you can look at that tells you what packages were installed/removed and you can use that to help you. |
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| 15:37.01 | vasuvi | yeah, /var/log/apt/history.log |
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| 15:38.04 | somiaj | vasuvi: http://people.debian.org/~fpeters/debian-gnome-3.12-status.html -- as for status in debian, I have seen this page a lot but it is only updated to 3.12, and even that looks fairly incomplete, 3.14 may be a while until it starts to work it's way in |
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| 15:40.21 | vasuvi | somiaj: hmm; does look like kinda a mess now; hope they get it into at least installable state, even if incomplete, into Sid soon |
| 15:40.58 | vasuvi | (and 3.12 is fine; I just want it usable, don't really care exactly how updated it is) |
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| 15:41.16 | somiaj | vasuvi: check bugs.debian.org for any bugs that prevent it from installing. And that is the nature of sid. (: |
| 15:41.36 | somiaj | vasuvi: also do you have apt-listbugs installed? |
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| 15:42.42 | vasuvi | somiah: yup, part of living on the edge :) I would actually prefer a hybrid approach, with a solid base but constantly-updated leaf packages, but alas, Debian has no such thing like that, and I don't tend to like the distros that do (e.g.: Chakra) |
| 15:43.02 | vasuvi | somiaj: actually, no; sounds like a good idea to install it |
| 15:43.09 | somiaj | vasuvi: near the end of this year the freeze will happen and things will start to be a bit less wild then. Not sure what version the gnome team is hoping to get into jessie by then. |
| 15:43.32 | somiaj | vasuvi: when ever you run an upgrade or install, it will look for any grave bugs in the packages you are installing and warn you about them. |
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| 15:43.55 | vasuvi | somiaj: awesome! that definitely ought to help... |
| 15:45.04 | somiaj | vasuvi: the best method for your 'leaf like' approach is compiling from source. gnome is a very large project so it makes that evenmore complicated. But that is what I do for my small window manager I use. |
| 15:45.21 | somiaj | vasuvi: that way you have a core base and then compile the software you want newer for your system. |
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| 15:46.01 | vasuvi | somiaj: I also have a Gentoo install :) I tend to switch amongst my favorite distros, and figured it was time to give Debian another go a few months ago |
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| 15:46.35 | vasuvi | other than this GNOME kerfluffle, it has actually been quite a smooth experience despite being in Sid, actually |
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| 15:48.36 | somiaj | vasuvi: I like sid myself, been my desktop os for 10+ years |
| 15:48.49 | somiaj | vasuvi: I use stable on my work laptop, but sometimes I like to get work done and not fix bugs. (: |
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| 15:49.17 | somiaj | vasuvi: but it is very smooth, just upgrades can get ya. Though since I don't use gnome I think I run across less bugs than most. Nice thing about being a minimilst |
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| 15:49.57 | vasuvi | somiaj: nice! maybe someday I'll settle down on a distro; if so, Debian is certainly one of the top contenders. |
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| 15:51.01 | vasuvi | somiaj: I've been experimenting with some of the lightweight WM's; OpenBox seems the best supported so far, but it's very much a build-your-own DE experience, and even with tint2 et al., can't seem to get to a configuration as polished as the big DE's |
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| 15:51.02 | somiaj | vasuvi: yea, I kinda wonder if debian cut will ever make it back into a possibility. But it was put aside when they focused on the release of wheezy and I think that is where it will sit |
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| 15:51.42 | somiaj | vasuvi: I use fvwm and I like my setup way more than any of the big DE's, but 90% of what i do is in xterms anyways so I don't need much more than a webbrowser and a image viewer |
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| 15:51.57 | vasuvi | somiah: that's a shame; read Raphael's posts on it on the Planet, and it seemed to be a very good idea. I wonder if Tanglu is supposed to be its successor. |
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| 15:53.19 | vasuvi | yeah, I will admit that most of what I do is in the browser, terminal, or editor myself, none of which tremendously depend on the WM/DE. (though I'm in XChat now myself, again desktop agnostic though) |
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| 15:54.46 | vasuvi | somiaj: maybe I'll just switch to XFCE now while waiting for GNOME to stabilize a bit more in Sid; I won't really be losing that much in doing so... |
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| 15:55.14 | Plazma | vasuvi: interesting.. i'm sorta kinda that way myself anymore and getting less and less interested in having a full blown desktop.. just a grid to snap my windows too and some type of menu structure |
| 15:55.22 | vasuvi | (could go to KDE instead, and I do like KDE, but for some reason, I seem to like Fedora's KDE better than Debian's...) |
| 15:55.36 | gnugnu9 | So I want that br0 (bridge) only uses IPv4, not IPv6. Can I enforce this in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 15:56.15 | somiaj | gnugnu9: look at your definition of your br0 file? don't you say somewhere just 'inet' in it? (been a while since I set up a bridge) |
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| 15:56.31 | sakang | you should try mate or razorqt. better alternative imho |
| 15:56.40 | gnugnu9 | iface br0 inet static |
| 15:56.42 | gnugnu9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.03 | somiaj | gnugnu9: the inet sets it to be ipv4, I belive you need inet6 for ipv6 there (I haven't messed with it much) |
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| 15:57.29 | somiaj | gnugnu9: I'm not sure how to configure that bridge to have both a v4 and v6 address, but that is what is limiting you to version 4 |
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| 15:58.10 | viccuad | this is going to sound weird: Could the people working on FOSS and in an enterprise say how they achieved that? I'm currently finishing my CS studies, and I really want a job where I work on FOSS (not with). I would love to hear 1-2 lines of people that have achieved it. many, many thanks, and sorry for the noise. |
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| 15:58.29 | gnugnu9 | ip addr shows me only the ipv6 address although its peers definitely use ipv4, too and are also reachable over the ipv4 address. |
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| 15:58.43 | vasuvi | somiaj: anyway, thanks for the help and nice chat; going to reboot and make sure that I can at least get into XFCE alright! |
| 15:58.56 | somiaj | gnugnu9: maybe man 5 interfaces will help you a bit. ipv6 is out of my experience. |
| 15:59.03 | babilen | viccuad: Take it to #debian-offtopic (here and on irc.oftc.net) please |
| 15:59.11 | gnugnu9 | ok |
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| 15:59.30 | viccuad | babilen: thx, I will do that |
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| 15:59.58 | babilen | viccuad: If you want to choose one then I'd recommend irc.oftc.net |
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| 16:08.33 | nest0r | Ok, this is embarrassing. I forgot my root password on my raspberry pi with debian on it, I'm fucked, right? (in the sense that I shall never obtain godlike powers on that particular install ever again?) |
| 16:08.55 | babilen | nest0r: Are you sure that it is not raspbian? |
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| 16:09.28 | nest0r | babilen: yes =/ |
| 16:09.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell nest0r -about raspbian |
| 16:09.45 | babilen | nest0r: Please ask in their, excellent, channel |
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| 16:10.13 | jelly | why would one run armel on a rpi, it's slow as it is |
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| 16:12.23 | babilen | nest0r: Please join #raspbian :) |
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| 16:14.54 | nest0r | Oh, I checked /etc/*release now and it's apparently raspian. I'm sorry to bother you all! |
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| 16:17.54 | melt7777 | anyone here use flashybrid before? |
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| 16:32.16 | Sagar | somiaj : thanks :) |
| 16:32.21 | Sagar | it worked! :) |
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| 16:34.00 | rastaval | hi im having problem run a binary file with wheezy |
| 16:34.10 | rastaval | when i do ./sample |
| 16:34.28 | rastaval | it says bash: ./sample: No such file or directory |
| 16:34.35 | rastaval | please help |
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| 16:34.53 | Elemeno-_ | type: ls -l |
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| 16:35.24 | Jagst3r15 | what image is stock debian for 64 bit OS? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
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| 16:35.32 | rastaval | Elemeno-_ is that for me? hope you dont mind me asking |
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| 16:35.57 | Elemeno-_ | rastaval: yes, do you see your file in the output? if so, can you paste that line |
| 16:35.59 | Elemeno-_ | ? |
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| 16:36.42 | somiaj | Sagar: again if you want to jail/chroot your ftp client, you will have to see if it has a built in option (many doo) |
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| 16:37.14 | rastaval | Elemeno-_ let me pastebin it |
| 16:37.20 | Jagst3r15 | anyone? |
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| 16:37.38 | Sagar | somiaj: what's the different between both? |
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| 16:38.27 | rastaval | Elemeno-_: http://pastebin.com/EHMLhGbJ |
| 16:38.38 | rastaval | thank you by the way for your response |
| 16:38.44 | somiaj | Sagar: you can chroot a process with building a chroot on your system (note chroots are not that secure). That is different than using a built in option such as the sshd_config thing you added |
| 16:39.25 | Sagar | So that means ssh_config is better than chroot ? |
| 16:39.45 | Elemeno-_ | rastaval: I'm not seeing a file named "sample" in this directory |
| 16:40.16 | Elemeno-_ | is it a hidden file? |
| 16:40.19 | rastaval | i actually did ./darkbot |
| 16:40.29 | rastaval | messay@box:~/dark/darkbot6f6$ ./darkbot |
| 16:40.29 | rastaval | bash: ./darkbot: No such file or directory |
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| 16:41.10 | Elemeno-_ | that's strange - did you use gcc to compile it? |
| 16:41.14 | jelly | rastaval: how did you build the binary? |
| 16:42.10 | rastaval | its a proconfigured version of darkbot |
| 16:42.14 | jelly | rastaval: a binary from 2001 _might_ need to be recompiled. |
| 16:42.30 | jelly | also, it might be built for a 32bit OS |
| 16:42.39 | rastaval | i have also downloaded a full version |
| 16:43.02 | rastaval | but got error upon making it |
| 16:43.12 | rastaval | so i decided to download the preconfigured |
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| 16:43.23 | rastaval | jelly: may i ask your advice about my problem? |
| 16:44.01 | rastaval | perhaps it is 32bit |
| 16:44.11 | rastaval | and im currently having 64bit |
| 16:45.33 | jelly | rastaval: rebuild the thing from source if possible. |
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| 16:45.47 | rastaval | jelly, i did |
| 16:45.57 | rastaval | but got few errors |
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| 16:46.09 | SynrG | then why would 32bit vs 64bit be an issue? it should compile on both |
| 16:46.12 | rastaval | what do you think i lack with compilers? |
| 16:46.27 | SynrG | without seeing the errors, we can't help |
| 16:46.49 | jelly | rastaval: pastebin the full output of ./configure && make, please |
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| 16:46.59 | rastaval | would you like to login? |
| 16:47.05 | SynrG | absolutely not |
| 16:47.08 | jelly | rastaval: use whatever configure options you did the first time |
| 16:47.11 | jelly | !paste |
| 16:47.11 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 16:48.01 | rastaval | jelly thanks for the info.. gimme a sec |
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| 16:49.41 | rastaval | im done with configuration. |
| 16:49.45 | rastaval | hereis the make error |
| 16:49.45 | rastaval | http://paste.debian.net/90052/ |
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| 16:52.13 | jelly | rastaval: at this point, you look at the _first_ error: line, and google for clues. |
| 16:52.34 | rastaval | ok thank you |
| 16:52.47 | jelly | rastaval: so, the line is ... darkbot.c:2422:5: error: 'CLOCKS_PER_SEC' undeclared (first use in this function), so you can go and google for "error: 'CLOCKS_PER_SEC' undeclared" |
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| 16:53.45 | jelly | your code is quite old, and some header paths have changed |
| 16:53.51 | rastaval | i ve might have seen my mistakes |
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| 16:54.17 | rastaval | its within the configuration |
| 16:54.58 | rastaval | thanks jelly, God bless and have a good one |
| 16:55.00 | rastaval | so with Elemeno-_ |
| 16:55.04 | rastaval | :) |
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| 16:58.16 | jelly | that was weird |
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| 16:59.26 | Faisal | hi, i am running wheezy and got a nis server |
| 16:59.30 | Faisal | i want to know if anyone knows how to add a user to that nis server |
| 16:59.32 | Faisal | ? |
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| 17:02.33 | codestr0m | I've added deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free to my sources.list , updated and now I'd like to install the sid unstable 3.13.7 kernel - can someone help me. I'm not seeing it in the list when I apt-cache search or try to install |
| 17:02.34 | codestr0m | thanks |
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| 17:04.07 | zykotick9 | codestr0m: are you planning on switching your system to sid? 'cause that's the road you're going down... |
| 17:04.13 | babilen | codestr0m: Are you tracking stable? |
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| 17:04.49 | codestr0m | babilen zykotick9: I'm on "testing" now and I'd ideally like to pin all packages to testing and just pull the unstable kernel |
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| 17:04.58 | babilen | dpkg: tell codestr0m -about tum |
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| 17:05.18 | babilen | codestr0m: Also note that testing is supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 17:07.02 | codestr0m | babilen: I have no idea what "edit sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one set to sid" means |
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| 17:07.53 | babilen | codestr0m: It means to add an entry for sid (or unstable) ... assuming you have security.debian.org for testing in there (which doesn't exist for unstable) |
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| 17:08.41 | codestr0m | babilen: apt-get -t sid install linux-image |
| 17:08.41 | codestr0m | ... |
| 17:08.41 | codestr0m | Package linux-image is a virtual package provided by: |
| 17:08.41 | codestr0m | ... (the the version I need isn't in this list) |
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| 17:17.09 | coldiso | hi - i have a debian testing box i am poking at (have a wheezy side by side). I am trying to get firefox32 running on amd64 build like i have on my stable version. In order to get this to work I need a i386 lib of libXrender.so.1. I have multi-arch installed but i don't have the /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu that i do on stable. |
| 17:17.15 | dizzylizzy | I'm having fun installing Debian on my laptop. I had to reboot and restart a few times, and I think I accidentally skipped the step to set up users and passwords, and I'm pretty sure I disabled root login as well |
| 17:17.27 | dizzylizzy | everything is installed and lovely but I'm not sure what to do at this point |
| 17:17.33 | dizzylizzy | since, you know, I can't log in |
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| 17:17.45 | coldiso | is there a changed way to get multi-arch libs? |
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| 17:20.03 | zinx | coldiso: did you dpkg --add-architecture i386 ? |
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| 17:20.27 | coldiso | zinx - i did not i will do that now, i don't recall doing that before is this new or am I just clueless |
| 17:20.46 | zinx | not new since wheezy for sure |
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| 17:22.11 | Dim_Dimoss | hello, is there a free driver for ATI 9600 XT ? |
| 17:22.36 | zinx | you could try 'radeon' :x |
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| 17:23.11 | Dim_Dimoss | Ok thank's |
| 17:23.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell Dim_Dimoss about radeon |
| 17:24.08 | babilen | Dim_Dimoss: Don't forget to install firmware-linux-nonfree and libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 17:24.31 | trix`G | hello, is there an easy way to have a stock debian wheezy install kill Xorg and go to pure console when logged into root but load normal desktop when any other user is chosen? |
| 17:24.59 | Dim_Dimoss | babilen Ok thank you so much |
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| 17:26.04 | babilen | Dim_Dimoss: Use a sources.list such as http://paste.debian.net/90064/ run "apt-get update" and then install those pacakges. I'd recommend to install microcode for you CPU while you are at it as everybody needs that too. |
| 17:26.12 | babilen | Dim_Dimoss: tell Dim_Dimoss -about microcode |
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| 17:26.39 | trix`G | I tried killing Xorg via script whenever user Root logs in but not only does wheezy reload it right away, it will kill it when root logs into *any* console or terminal |
| 17:27.06 | coldiso | zinx: i did "dpkg --add-architecture i386" ran an update but still lack /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu where libXrender exists on my other machine.. any other thoughts? |
| 17:27.52 | coldiso | zinx: never mind i think i found my issue now, i could not install ia32-libs before - its working onow |
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| 17:58.14 | w0rmie | Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done. |
| 17:58.15 | w0rmie | Begin: Mounting root file system ... /init: .: line 249: can't open '/scripts/live' |
| 17:58.15 | w0rmie | [ 12.991289] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attemped to kill init! exitcode=0x00000200 |
| 17:58.15 | w0rmie | [ 12.991289] |
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| 17:59.59 | w0rmie | Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done. |
| 18:00.00 | w0rmie | Begin: Mounting root file system ... /init: .: line 249: can't open '/scripts/live' |
| 18:00.00 | w0rmie | [ 12.991289] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attemped to kill init! exitcode=0x00000200 |
| 18:00.00 | w0rmie | [ 12.991289] |
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| 18:00.12 | drwahl | ... |
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| 18:02.12 | w0rmie | i am sorry about the flooding :) |
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| 18:02.44 | w0rmie | i've some problem with /init, it can't open the /scripts/live |
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| 18:03.00 | w0rmie | here is the msg: http://paste.debian.net/90070 |
| 18:03.14 | Faisal | anyone knows how to query a nis server |
| 18:03.18 | Faisal | to get a list of users ? |
| 18:03.24 | Faisal | or is that impossible ? |
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| 18:04.52 | colo-work | phew, NIS has been a while |
| 18:05.02 | colo-work | isn't there `yppasswd`? |
| 18:05.04 | jhutchins | Faisal: ypcat passwd |
| 18:05.08 | colo-work | ah, yeah |
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| 18:05.15 | colo-work | sounds strangely familiar ;) |
| 18:05.23 | babilen | w0rmie: When does that happen? What have you done before? |
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| 18:05.38 | Faisal | jhutchins: thx that is on the server itself |
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| 18:05.51 | Faisal | jhutchins: on the client do you know ? |
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| 18:06.48 | andry | has anyone tried xrdp with libjpeg-turbo? |
| 18:06.49 | jhutchins | Faisal: That is on the client. |
| 18:07.00 | Faisal | jhutchins: ok will try that |
| 18:08.17 | drwahl | Faisal: getent password may work as well (and doesn't change based on your auth method) |
| 18:08.37 | Faisal | drwahl: thx |
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| 18:10.22 | n-st | is there any explanation why it isn't possible to change the inode count of an ext filesystem without recreating it? |
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| 18:10.41 | cypherman | hi people |
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| 18:11.54 | cypherman | does anybody knows of one simple howto on setting up an imap mail server with roundcube or some webmail? for debian wheezy? Preferably a guide that works with the stock versions of dovecot or whatever server is installed? |
| 18:12.09 | cypherman | maybe a wiki page? |
| 18:12.12 | andry | i wrote one, but it is in german ;P |
| 18:12.28 | cypherman | andry, it have the commands? |
| 18:12.33 | andry | yes |
| 18:12.37 | cypherman | that is all i need |
| 18:12.57 | cypherman | i folowed a bunch of guides but there is always some problem with dovecot version |
| 18:12.58 | andry | http://goo.gl/qQ2hyb |
| 18:13.17 | cypherman | dovecot.conf, or wehatever hack they occur to do with postfix |
| 18:13.30 | cypherman | i just want a simple guide |
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| 18:14.02 | cypherman | one where i can generate my selfsigned certificates, edit the servers, generate the database and configure it with no special hacks or compiling anything |
| 18:14.12 | cypherman | just a simple imap/ssl mail server |
| 18:14.20 | andry | i kept it pretty simple, i think |
| 18:14.29 | w0rmie | biblen: i've debootstrapped lenny under ubuntu server by usinf FAI (fully automated installation) for building clustering solutions.. when booting for a client PXE the kernel and ramdisk load correcty, but it blocks at the init step |
| 18:14.32 | andry | i mentioned smtps and submission |
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| 18:15.20 | w0rmie | babilen: i dunno if it's a permission issue even i chmod 777 the init |
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| 18:17.02 | w0rmie | babilen: or maybe the live system needs some housekeeping |
| 18:17.17 | cypherman | andry: i'm looking at it... seems simple, i think i'll hit it with th google translator if i feel i'm missing something |
| 18:17.35 | andry | or just message me, i think i can explain it in english then :) |
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| 18:19.52 | cypherman | andry: did you setup a webmail interface? |
| 18:19.59 | cypherman | like roundcube or squirrelmail? |
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| 18:20.23 | andry | yes, webmail lite by afterlogics, i really like it! look very modern and is easy to set ip |
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| 18:20.45 | andry | http://goo.gl/4wL2Fr |
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| 18:21.51 | cypherman | andry: is afterlogic in the debian repos? |
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| 18:22.47 | andry | dont think so, but you just need a webserver and mysql |
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| 18:24.13 | Deele | I want to remove and unneeded or unwanted packages from base installation, something like https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian but themed for webservers? |
| 18:24.38 | Deele | I mean, do you know any similar source, but themed for webservers? |
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| 18:27.10 | drwahl | Deele: checkout the "popularity-contest" package |
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| 18:32.28 | Shirt_ | Hi, Im looking to make a startup script for xubuntu that asks some basic questions like server IP username and pass, then insert it into a web browser can someone point me in the right direction of where to start? |
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| 18:33.32 | andry | bash and read |
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| 18:37.36 | hpekdemir | hi. I had to switch both disks (sw-raid1) to better performance disks. I replaced one first, let it rebuild, then I replaced the other. after reboot I wanted to rebuild but now I can't boot because it says "No media found" |
| 18:37.40 | hpekdemir | bios. |
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| 18:41.07 | babilen | w0rmie: lenny? |
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| 18:42.18 | johndoe | how hard is it to downgrade X to a pre-13 version? |
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| 18:45.36 | ctmjr | Shirt_: ask in #ubuntu or #xbuntu |
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| 18:46.15 | w0rmie | babilen: yes lenny, and even with ubuntu 12.04/12.10/13.10, nothing work. |
| 18:46.21 | jelly-home | ,v xserver-xorg-core |
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| 18:46.22 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on i386 -- squeeze: 2:1.7.7-18; squeeze-security: 2:1.7.7-18; squeeze-backports: 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u2; jessie: 2:1.15.0-2; sid: 2:1.15.0-2 |
| 18:46.42 | jelly-home | johndoe: what do you mean? Which debian release are you using? |
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| 18:47.22 | jelly-home | johndoe: current debian 7 uses 1.12.4 X server, as you can see |
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| 18:51.55 | johndoe | jelly-home: Jessie; version 2:1.14.5-1 |
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| 18:53.06 | jelly-home | johndoe: we cater primarily to the stable release here. If noone answers, try #debian-next channel, on irc.debian.org network not Freenode |
| 18:53.45 | johndoe | ah, didnt know that. thanks :) |
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| 18:54.02 | jelly-home | be prepared to answer "why" |
| 18:54.12 | johndoe | gah, another network i need to connect to -.- |
| 18:54.14 | johndoe | sure :) |
| 18:54.25 | jelly-home | johndoe: irc.debian.org = irc.oftc.net is you have that one already |
| 18:54.28 | jelly-home | if* |
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| 18:56.00 | johndoe | jelly-home: why = i want to play hearthstone |
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| 18:58.42 | crumb | unable to execute installed post-installation script (/var/lib/dpkg/info/tcsh.postinst): No such file or directory |
| 18:58.47 | crumb | what do i need to install |
| 18:58.58 | crumb | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 18:59.01 | crumb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.05 | drwahl | crumb: sounds like that package is messed up |
| 19:00.06 | andry | now i set up xrdp with libjpeg-turbo and have no machine here to test :| |
| 19:00.16 | drwahl | might want to contact the maintainer of that package |
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| 19:01.38 | crumb | drwahl: it was working earlier, i just uninstalled a bunch of stuff |
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| 19:04.26 | crumb | can someone tell me in what pkg /var/lib/dpkg/info/tcsh.postinst is contained |
| 19:04.42 | jelly-home | crumb: well, tcsh |
| 19:04.49 | andry | :) |
| 19:05.01 | jelly-home | crumb: that's one of its package installation scripts |
| 19:05.18 | jelly-home | crumb: which debian release are you using? |
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| 19:05.33 | jelly-home | !tell crumb about bat |
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| 19:06.35 | crumb | jelly-home: wheezy |
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| 19:15.04 | sysvalve | hi |
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| 19:16.30 | theBat | Hi sysvalve |
| 19:17.56 | jelly-home | crumb: did you get and read the private message from dpkg, the bot? |
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| 19:22.27 | lroe | Is there a way for me to change the order in which dhclient requests its dhcp options? |
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| 19:33.39 | crumb | oh, just needed to install bash |
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| 19:50.03 | telco2000 | hello |
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| 19:54.54 | Panther_Modern | Anyone have a minute to answer a couple questions re: wheezy w/kernel 3.13x64? |
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| 19:56.13 | OpenTokix | Panther_Modern: just ask your question |
| 19:56.42 | Panther_Modern | Thanks - on Kernel 3.13 w/VMWare workstation, I get network drop outs - it just stops routing |
| 19:57.27 | OpenTokix | Panther_Modern: do you see something in dmesg? |
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| 19:57.51 | Panther_Modern | Sorry 3.13 and 3.12 :( |
| 19:57.57 | Panther_Modern | OpenTokix, Unfortunately no |
| 19:58.26 | Panther_Modern | OpenTokix, dmesg has nothing relating to device dropout - unplugging/replugging cable seems to bring it back up for a couple minutes - but problem only happens while VMWare is actually running |
| 19:58.42 | Panther_Modern | Doesn't happen on kernel 3.2 |
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| 20:03.11 | ixio | apt-get install git.. git is already the latest version...-bash: git: command not found....mmm ? |
| 20:03.40 | centrx | Does the binary exist? Is the binary in your path? |
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| 20:04.05 | wiak | find / -iname git |
| 20:04.07 | wiak | ? |
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| 20:05.00 | GJdan | why does iceweasel get held back as a dist upgrade? |
| 20:05.04 | jordanm | ixio: what version of debian? |
| 20:05.33 | ixio | lenny |
| 20:05.35 | jordanm | ixio: in older versions of debian "git" was not the vcs |
| 20:05.48 | jordanm | ixio: you want git-core IIRC |
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| 20:06.05 | jordanm | ixio: and in case you are not aware, lenny hasn't been supported in years |
| 20:06.53 | jelly-home | ixio: git-core is what you're looking for |
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| 20:07.59 | ixio | thanks |
| 20:09.09 | jelly-home | Panther_Modern: debian on host or guest? |
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| 20:28.26 | Panther_Modern | jelly, on the host |
| 20:28.39 | Panther_Modern | jelly, Guest is running Win7, but network dropout affects the host and guest at same time |
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| 20:28.50 | Panther_Modern | jelly, With bridged networking - haven't tried NAT yet |
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| 20:29.15 | Panther_Modern | jelly-home rather |
| 20:29.18 | Panther_Modern | oops |
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| 20:32.41 | mfabel | exit |
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| 20:35.15 | jhutchins | Panther_Modern: If the network dropout affects the host, it's not the guest kernel that's causing it. |
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| 20:36.53 | Panther_Modern | jhutchins, I realize that, I am trying to troubleshoot the host, not the guest. |
| 20:37.16 | jhutchins | Panther_Modern: Did you not say the host was running W7? |
| 20:37.21 | Panther_Modern | No |
| 20:37.28 | Panther_Modern | I said the Host is running Debian 7 w/Kernel 3.12 |
| 20:37.30 | jhutchins | Panther_Modern: Ah, my mistake. |
| 20:37.31 | Panther_Modern | The Guest is running Win7 |
| 20:37.34 | Panther_Modern | No worries! |
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| 20:37.44 | Panther_Modern | Thanks for any thoughts you guys might have :) |
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| 20:47.38 | jhutchins | Panther_Modern: Are you running anything that keep the connection "alive", something that generates traffic regularly? |
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| 20:48.07 | Panther_Modern | jhutchins, Yes - It's literally within seconds of the VM accessing the 'net that the host drops out - usually under 30 |
| 20:49.12 | Panther_Modern | jhutchins, At least, it appears that way. I could be missing something really obvious. Disclaimer: My skill level is intermediate with Linux, not master. |
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| 20:50.01 | jhutchins | Panther_Modern: How about throwing up a debian guest and see what it does with that? |
| 20:50.19 | jhutchins | Panther_Modern: I agree, it looks a lot like a kernel issue. |
| 20:50.27 | jhutchins | Panther_Modern: What hardware? |
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| 20:52.36 | Panther_Modern | jhutchins, Lenovo Y580 - this is a project laptop |
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| 21:05.04 | ixio | anyone know how to enable the phar php extension on debian (lenny) |
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| 21:06.25 | hfp | Hi! I'm wondering if it's possible to have my server use a PPPoE connection for all things internet and a LAN connection for the rest. I have only one ethernet card. I have a router connecter to the internet using PPPoE for most of the traffic. That server should "dial" its own PPPoE connection from inside the network and use it for larger downloads. Is it possible at all? |
| 21:06.34 | hfp | Using Debian Wheezy |
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| 21:09.19 | ompaul | hfp: just use tcpip |
| 21:09.41 | ompaul | running a radius server is slightly insane |
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| 21:09.46 | ompaul | or some such |
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| 21:10.04 | Panther_Modern | jhutchins, So, it's not related to the Guest - just having VMWare open causes the problem |
| 21:10.12 | hfp | ompaul: I'm not running a Radius, my ISP does. |
| 21:10.24 | Panther_Modern | jhutchins, So definitely looks like some 3.12 kernel issue relating to VMWare |
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| 21:10.43 | hfp | Basically, I have two accounts but they are on the same "line". |
| 21:10.47 | ompaul | !ops perhaps mostafa_sedaghat could be directed to getting a better connection |
| 21:10.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_: ompaul complains about: perhaps mostafa_sedaghat could be directed to getting a better connection |
| 21:10.59 | jelly-home | hfp: it's possible, typically you'd have to switch your router to bridge mode and not let it do its own pppoe |
| 21:11.49 | ompaul | pppoe is not hard, but if you have one network card better to let the modem do it |
| 21:12.03 | ompaul | by all means direct all traffic over the server |
| 21:12.14 | jelly-home | hfp: whether a router can do both at the same time depends on its firmware (and I suspect it's not debian) |
| 21:12.22 | hfp | I want my router to do the PPPoE for all the network. But within the network, I want the Debian box tu have its own PPPoE and use it for its internet. But this server is also a fileserver so I still need it to be accessible on the LAN while it uses its own PPPoE for downloads. |
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| 21:12.56 | hfp | The router is fine, I can have it on PPPoE and open another PPPoE session from within the LAN on a Windows PC for example. I tried and both work. |
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| 21:13.08 | jelly-home | so, what's the problem? |
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| 21:13.45 | ompaul | hfp: you have a design problem if the router for the network is in bridged mode - how can traffic talk over the router to talk to the server |
| 21:13.49 | hfp | What I'm confused about is how to tell the server what to send over which connection. i.e. some of its internet traffic through its PPPoE, the rest of the internet traffic and LAN over to the router |
| 21:13.52 | jelly-home | hfp: can Linux do both pppoe and native lan routing? Sure. |
| 21:14.24 | jelly-home | hfp: you'd send ALL the internet-facing traffic through pppoe |
| 21:14.47 | ompaul | hfp: I have had (until very recently) in one of my offices that kind of connection but I made sure for my network security all the traffic for the lan is out on another physical interface which it on a switch |
| 21:15.19 | ompaul | hfp: the router will not route other ports over to the pppoe |
| 21:15.26 | hfp | No, only the traffic to certain IPs and ports through the server own's PPPoE. The rest over the LAN to the router to be passed throught the router's own PPPoE. It's a bit weird, did I explain it in a way you understand? |
| 21:15.30 | ompaul | if it is in brisge mode |
| 21:15.41 | jelly-home | nope |
| 21:15.49 | hfp | haha |
| 21:15.55 | hfp | ok let me try again |
| 21:16.02 | ompaul | hfp: read what I said, or ignore it. |
| 21:16.08 | SynrG | ompaul: hm. looks like no longer a problem? |
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| 21:16.27 | ompaul | SynrG: without more hardware it's not going anywhere |
| 21:16.53 | jelly-home | hfp: why do you want to split internet-facing traffic from the debian machine to go partly over its own PPPoE and partly through the router? |
| 21:17.04 | ompaul | at least one switch and preferable with one more network card but you could eth0:0 and ppp0: the same card |
| 21:17.10 | Ad1 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML6gQgXR6jA |
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| 21:17.37 | ompaul | hfp: you have a VERY BAD IDEA(TM) |
| 21:17.49 | jelly-home | !ops Ad1 spam |
| 21:17.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_: jelly-home complains about: Ad1 spam |
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| 21:17.56 | ompaul | SynrG: something like that :) |
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| 21:18.27 | ompaul | jelly-home: he's nowhere for the packets to get shared :) |
| 21:18.28 | jelly-home | wait... why am I highlighting all these people when SynrG is alive |
| 21:18.43 | ompaul | SynrG: eh yeah ^^ |
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| 21:18.58 | ompaul | jelly-home: because I didn't know? |
| 21:19.05 | ompaul | pop it etc |
| 21:19.07 | ompaul | woops |
| 21:19.14 | ompaul | s/pop/cop/ |
| 21:19.18 | lisbeth | Can anbody tell me what software script forms the htmml for debian mirrors like this: |
| 21:19.19 | lisbeth | http://www.acc.umu.se/~maswan/debian-push/cdimage/ |
| 21:19.45 | lisbeth | I am interesting in setting up something similar to a mirror and I am looking for software that will set up the html |
| 21:20.11 | ompaul | lisbeth: read the info on that https://www.debian.org/mirror/ |
| 21:20.42 | LoRez | Ad1: ready for your kline? |
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| 21:22.41 | op | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.52 | lisbeth | ompaul, I've been around the website but I haven't found out what software forms the html |
| 21:23.04 | lisbeth | I am just looking for whatever debian uses to take a filesystem and turn it into html links |
| 21:23.15 | lisbeth | I am not trying to set up a debian mirror. It's for a personal project |
| 21:23.22 | Ad1 | hehe the internet is strange place :D |
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| 21:24.23 | jelly-home | lisbeth: apache has a module called autoindex |
| 21:24.41 | lisbeth | jelly-home, ty |
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| 21:26.01 | op | when i run this command "deluser username sudo " i got this /usr/sbin/deluser: The user `king' is not a member of group `sudo'. |
| 21:26.21 | op | but when i logged into the user king i am able to using the sudo |
| 21:26.59 | jelly-home | op: which debian release are you using? What does "id -a king" say? |
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| 21:27.55 | esd_ | hi |
| 21:28.12 | jelly-home | Ad1: cool story, bro |
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| 21:30.26 | esd_ | i use a minimal debian stable with i3. i'd like to know how to easily change the default wallpaper in a terminal without using feh maybe the update-alternatives? Sorry for the question iam a new non technical debian user. thanks |
| 21:30.36 | op | id -a uid=1003(king) gid=1004(king) groups=1004(king) |
| 21:30.49 | op | and Debian 3.7.2-0 version |
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| 21:31.34 | jelly-home | op: that... doesn't look like a debian release. What does "lsb_release -sc" say? |
| 21:32.03 | jelly-home | op: also, dpkg -l dpkg libc6|tail -n 2 |
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| 21:33.11 | op | n/a |
| 21:33.45 | op | ii dpkg 1.16.10 i386 Debian package management system ii libc6:i386 2.13-38 i386 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 21:35.45 | op | SirLagz: jelly-home |
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| 21:36.09 | op | sir? |
| 21:36.31 | op | sir my system is kali linux |
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| 21:37.11 | jelly-home | op: you'll have to ask kali people how they've configured sudo |
| 21:37.14 | jelly-home | !kali |
| 21:37.14 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 21:37.44 | hfp | ompaul, jelly-home: Sorry I got a phone call. So I have one FTTH modem that is bridged to a router. This router uses a metered PPPoE connection and the internet traffic goes through it by default. Now, I have a Debian server sitting on this network and I would like it to have its own PPPoE connection. This second PPPoE connection is unmetered but blocks some services. Because of that, I would like the server to only use its |
| 21:37.44 | hfp | own PPPoE for certain services while sending the rest of the internet traffic over to the router. This Debian server is also a local fileserver so I can't isolate it on its own network. The Debian server only has one ethernet card. Would I be able to achieve what I'm trying to? Or is it going to be a major PITA? |
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| 21:38.40 | jelly-home | hfp: able to? Yes. Major PITA? Only if you don't know anything about policy routing in Linux. |
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| 21:38.49 | jelly-home | (so yes to both?) |
| 21:39.05 | hfp | routing policies == iptables? |
| 21:39.17 | jelly-home | hfp: no. "policy-based routing". |
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| 21:39.45 | hfp | jelly-home: Mmmyeah, I don't know about this thing... |
| 21:39.46 | pankgeorg | !quake3 |
| 21:39.47 | dpkg | ioquake3 is a game engine based on id Software's Quake 3 source code, which can be used to play various games based on the id Tech 3 engine (e.g. <OpenArena>, Quake III: Arena). Packaged for Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later releases; the openarena package in Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" contains its own ioquake3 version. http://www.ioquake3.org/ #ioquake3 on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 21:41.24 | jelly-home | hfp: a way to have multiple route tables with multiple default routes, and send traffic to one or the other based on complex criteria. See http://lartc.org/ and ask about it in ##networking |
| 21:41.42 | hfp | Thanks jelly-home |
| 21:42.50 | peterS | also I would have to say, as someone who _has_ done a bit of policy-based routing, that even knowing about it, it still is a PITA. (: |
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| 21:43.34 | zorael | What's a good way to list all installed obsoleted packages? (and other installed packages not available from any current repos) |
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| 21:44.59 | jelly-home | hfp: consider setting up a vpn tunnel to a cheap VPS or VPN service, going out the unmetered connection and tunneling everything through there |
| 21:45.21 | jelly-home | (everything internet-faced, that is... local LAN segment traffic is not a problem) |
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| 21:46.19 | peterS | zorael: aptitude search '~o' |
| 21:46.36 | zorael | peterS: cheers :3 |
| 21:46.52 | hfp | jelly-home: Yes, I'm considering every option |
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| 21:51.48 | Panther_Modern | jhutchins, I think I might have tracked it down - I think it might be some ACPI thing - this error shows up around the time the connection drops |
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| 21:54.22 | Panther_Modern | Looks like it's some ACPI bug with VMWare, Bumblebee and this kernel (3.12) - I don't suppose anyone knows where I can get a 3.11, 3.10, 3.09 or 3.08 kernel for wheezy? |
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| 21:55.25 | phantomcircuit | i have an nvidia kepler gpu |
| 21:55.26 | Nik05 | Panther_Modern 3.12 isnt even in debian |
| 21:55.35 | phantomcircuit | it seems like the latest version of nouveau supports it |
| 21:55.38 | Panther_Modern | Shit |
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| 21:55.46 | phantomcircuit | but that isn't backported |
| 21:55.59 | Nik05 | Panther_Modern there is 3.13 |
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| 21:56.04 | Panther_Modern | phantomcircuit, This is a Y580 running nVidia's optimus crap...GTX 650M |
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| 21:56.17 | Panther_Modern | Nik05, I tried 3.13, and I can't get VMWare to run |
| 21:56.28 | phantomcircuit | Panther_Modern, i bought a new laptop specifically to get rid of optimus |
| 21:56.32 | phantomcircuit | gl with that |
| 21:56.34 | Panther_Modern | phantomcircuit, Haha |
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| 21:56.47 | Panther_Modern | phantomcircuit, That might be an option for me later :P |
| 21:56.58 | phantomcircuit | ubuntu runs on this because they have newer nvidia proprietary drivers in "stable" |
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| 21:57.59 | rook2pawn | I want to adjust settings for logind.conf (systemd), but there is no such file in my /etc/systemd |
| 21:58.19 | rook2pawn | how do i install the logind service for systemd? |
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| 22:00.14 | phantomcircuit | hmm jessie has the right version |
| 22:00.16 | Panther_Modern | gragh |
| 22:00.32 | Panther_Modern | phantomcircuit, how stable is jessie? |
| 22:00.35 | babilen | rook2pawn: That file is not available in wheezy. |
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| 22:01.19 | phantomcircuit | Panther_Modern, i have no idea |
| 22:01.30 | babilen | Panther_Modern: Given that "stable" in Debian simply means "not changing" the answer to that question is "not at all". In regard to how usable it is, I'd say it's okay, but something bad might happen soon (or not). |
| 22:01.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell Panther_Modern about testing |
| 22:01.44 | babilen | dpkg: tell Panther_Modern about sidfaq |
| 22:01.48 | babilen | dpkg: tell Panther_Modern about sid faq |
| 22:01.53 | babilen | dpkg: tell Panther_Modern about tum |
| 22:02.14 | rook2pawn | i am trying to not have my external display shut down when i close the lid on my laptop |
| 22:02.26 | rook2pawn | and was told to edit my logind.conf in systemd directory |
| 22:02.50 | Panther_Modern | babilen, Thank you! |
| 22:03.12 | phantomcircuit | im guessing it's a bad idea to install just the nvidia-driver package from testing |
| 22:03.20 | babilen | Panther_Modern: Sorry, that might have been a bit much. You should also note that testing and unstable are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and that you should have a reasonably good understanding of Debian and its packaging system. I'd say read at least chapter 5 and 6 of http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/packaging-system.html |
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| 22:03.36 | Panther_Modern | babilen, Great, thanks for the info :) |
| 22:03.50 | babilen | phantomcircuit: You should never mix releases, but you can get a newer version from wheezy-backports: |
| 22:03.55 | babilen | judd: v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 22:03.56 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.88-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates/non-free: 304.117-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.82-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 331.49-1; sid/non-free: 331.49-1 |
| 22:04.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell phantomcircuit -about wheezy-backports |
| 22:04.07 | phantomcircuit | babilen, still too old |
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| 22:04.17 | gonzo | hey, could somebody tell me how to automount on startup? |
| 22:04.32 | phantomcircuit | need 331.38 or later |
| 22:04.50 | zykotick9 | gonzo: you might be interested in /etc/fstab perhaps? |
| 22:04.52 | babilen | phantomcircuit: Well, then put in the work to backport 331 from sid, track testing, use the nvidia installer (not recommended nor supported by us) ... |
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| 22:04.57 | Scripto | sudo mount -t vboxsf webtest /media/webtest |
| 22:05.04 | Scripto | is there a way to just run this on every startup? |
| 22:05.13 | ixio | add it to fstab |
| 22:05.21 | babilen | phantomcircuit: I would personally consider tracking testing in a jessie/sid mix (/msg dpkg tum) |
| 22:06.08 | phantomcircuit | babilen, point me in the direction of docs for the work to backport |
| 22:06.12 | babilen | Panther_Modern: The sid faq has a bunch of nice tips and I would strongly recommend to at least install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges and learn how to use them. |
| 22:06.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell phantomcircuit -about ssb |
| 22:06.43 | rook2pawn | How do i have nothing happen when I close my laptop? |
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| 22:07.07 | babilen | phantomcircuit: But it might be a lot more work -- I wouldn't even be sure if it compiles easily against the kernel in wheezy. It is probably not trivial if you have never worked on source packages before. |
| 22:07.16 | Panther_Modern | babilen, Understood |
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| 22:07.39 | Scripto | thanks for the help guys. this is my first time editing fstab, for the mount instruction I posted, is this entry correct?: webtest /media/webtest vboxsf |
| 22:07.46 | rook2pawn | everything I've seen points to logind.conf "HandleLidSwitch=ignore" .. but this is not a afeature used in Wheezy? |
| 22:07.49 | phantomcircuit | babilen, i've never worked on packages before but it cant be much harder than fixing bitcoin code... |
| 22:08.30 | Panther_Modern | Someone asked me whether they should buy bitcoin or not...I told them bitcoin was unstable and to buy dogecoin. |
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| 22:09.14 | rook2pawn | Is there a systemd-logind daemon in wheezy? |
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| 22:09.25 | babilen | rook2pawn: If you don't use systemd take a look at #LID_SLEEP=true in /etc/default/acpi-support |
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| 22:09.51 | rook2pawn | babilen: I am using wheezy so by default I believe i am using systemd |
| 22:09.55 | babilen | rook2pawn: You want the jessie version of systemd (at least) for that |
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| 22:10.26 | babilen | rook2pawn: No, you are almost certainly not using systemd by default on wheezy. And I wouldn't necessarily recommend using that systemd version either. |
| 22:10.54 | rook2pawn | babilen: Ah ok, thanks for that! |
| 22:11.01 | jordanm | I use it on wheezy |
| 22:11.21 | babilen | rook2pawn: But then laptop lid events are frequently handled by your desktop environment and might be configurable there (or might not in the case of Gnome IIRC) |
| 22:11.54 | babilen | jordanm: Without problems? I was under the impression that you really want at least the jessie version |
| 22:12.11 | rook2pawn | ah, i only use startx/xmonad |
| 22:12.15 | phantomcircuit | babilen, i also tried installing using the nvidia installer but the configuration stuff was wrong |
| 22:12.25 | phantomcircuit | i could probably get it right... but i really dont feel like it |
| 22:12.26 | phantomcircuit | :P |
| 22:13.02 | ast3rismo | hey guys |
| 22:13.05 | babilen | rook2pawn: Oh, I wouldn't recommend startx either but a display manager such as gdm3, lightdm or kdm as they will, as opposed to startx / ~/.xsession take care of initialising dbus, consolekit and logind (in the future) correctly. |
| 22:13.08 | jordanm | babilen: there were problems with ifupdown networking, but I just made a unit file for it |
| 22:13.26 | babilen | jordanm: Okay, that's better than what I expected |
| 22:13.27 | jordanm | babilen: I haven't encountered any issues outside of that |
| 22:14.10 | rook2pawn | i did not realize display managers offered all those services |
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| 22:15.04 | ast3rismo | i have a tp-link router inside a local network in which i need to configure a port redirection 5901 for vnc. I cannot do it in a local browser because the vnc port is blocked, but i'm connected through SSH to the machines inside, is it possible that i can access via text-browser and enable the vnc port? because lynx browser and elinks do not render the page with all options and menus |
| 22:15.06 | ast3rismo | any ideas? |
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| 22:15.21 | ast3rismo | i'm outside tyhe local network |
| 22:15.24 | ast3rismo | btw |
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| 22:18.02 | peterS | ast3rismo: confused. what is this 'tp-link router'? does it run Debian? |
| 22:18.12 | BilboLaggins | Hi how can I add lines into security/limits.conf and have the required effect without restarting the computer |
| 22:18.15 | BilboLaggins | ?? |
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| 22:19.44 | peterS | BilboLaggins: figure out what reads limits.conf and restart just those services. I have a feeling (without looking it up) that it's probably read by a PAM module - if that's the case, you just need a new login session |
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| 22:20.25 | ast3rismo | peterS: it is a home router, tp-link is the brand |
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| 22:20.44 | ast3rismo | the router is in my house and serves wifi and network to machines |
| 22:20.49 | ast3rismo | i'm outside my house |
| 22:20.52 | peterS | ast3rismo: if the question is "does the tp-link web interface work with a text-based web browser", that's not really a debian question, then |
| 22:20.58 | ast3rismo | and the ports are blocked |
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| 22:21.20 | ast3rismo | peterS: let me ask the debian question |
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| 22:21.52 | ast3rismo | is there any debian package for text browser taht allows me to navigate through a web interface of a home router? |
| 22:22.20 | peterS | why are you limited to a text browser, again? |
| 22:22.32 | peterS | I mean, can't you run whatever you want on your computer? |
| 22:22.51 | ast3rismo | not through ssh |
| 22:22.54 | willwh | ast3rismo: no because a lot of them using javascript now (wtf) |
| 22:23.02 | willwh | there is lynx |
| 22:23.07 | willwh | but depends on your router |
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| 22:23.22 | peterS | oh I think I understand. You're trying to run a browser on a Debian machine inside your network ... from outside the network, via ssh |
| 22:23.37 | willwh | ooooooooh |
| 22:23.37 | peterS | what you probably want instead is to do an ssh local port forward |
| 22:23.40 | willwh | ssh tunnel |
| 22:23.41 | willwh | :) |
| 22:23.59 | ast3rismo | willwh: and how i do that? |
| 22:23.59 | xauth | ast3rismo: ssh -X not good enough? |
| 22:24.21 | ast3rismo | mmm |
| 22:24.24 | ast3rismo | let me see |
| 22:24.24 | peterS | say the router is 192.168.1.1 and it's https. then if you use 'ssh -L 1991:192.168.1.1:443 your_home_ip', then subsequently 'https://localhost:1991' will go to the router |
| 22:24.56 | willwh | yup |
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| 22:24.58 | peterS | or if you're already connected, hit enter, then ~C to get an ssh command line, then type -L 1991:192.168.1.1:443 |
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| 22:25.57 | peterS | (I'm sure you can do the 443 to 80 substitution if your home router doesn't listen for https....) |
| 22:26.10 | ast3rismo | willwh: but i need to run iceweasel for it render the router webpage interface |
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| 22:26.31 | peterS | yes, after the -L thing, you can put https://localhost:1991 into iceweasel |
| 22:27.19 | ast3rismo | wait |
| 22:27.30 | peterS | waits |
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| 22:27.44 | ast3rismo | i did ssh ssh -X -p 24 root@servername |
| 22:27.57 | willwh | why? |
| 22:27.59 | ast3rismo | but can i display the x server of that remote machine? |
| 22:28.01 | willwh | the -L is the important part |
| 22:28.06 | willwh | you don't need to |
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| 22:28.17 | peterS | -X is one approach but I think it's the harder of the two approaches here |
| 22:28.20 | peterS | -L is what I'd do instead |
| 22:28.45 | ast3rismo | what does it do? |
| 22:28.48 | peterS | also, uh, port forwarding doesn't require you to log in as root |
| 22:28.53 | peterS | (nor does X forwarding) |
| 22:29.06 | willwh | you shouldn't even allow root access over ssh |
| 22:29.13 | willwh | that's horrible security practice |
| 22:29.22 | willwh | and just asking to get pwned |
| 22:29.27 | peterS | -L is port forwarding. it is how localhost:1991 at one end turns into 192.168.1.1:443 at the other end of ssh |
| 22:29.59 | peterS | you just specify LOCALPORT:REMOTEIP:REMOTEPORT, the local IP (localhost) is implied |
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| 22:31.28 | peterS | try it. hit enter, then ~C, then type -L 1991:192.168.1.1:443 (but substitute the actual IP of your soho router), then see if 'https://localhost:1991' works in your local browser |
| 22:32.39 | peterS | (the reason you have to hit enter is because ssh, in order to not interfere with the data stream any more than necessary, ignores commands like ~C unless they come right after Enter.) |
| 22:33.17 | DoctorD90 | hello guys! i have 'apt-get install -d flashplugin-nonfree' |
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| 22:33.59 | peterS | D90, eh? that's an impressive number of die faces |
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| 22:34.17 | DoctorD90 | to be able to install it when im offline, but it downloads a file(that i have download too)....how do all this from offline? |
| 22:34.35 | DoctorD90 | peterS: not understand... |
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| 22:36.12 | peterS | nothing, just a joke. The term "D {n}" is used for a physical random number generator from 1 to {n}. so an ordinary die, or cube with numbers 1 through 6 on it, is a D6. a 20-sided die is a D20. A coin is a D2. And you seem to have a D90. |
| 22:36.59 | rook2pawn | babilen: /etc/default/acpi-support worked out for me. ty! |
| 22:37.35 | DoctorD90 | aaaa....ok xD i have understand that we yet met xD ah okok...d20...understand what you mean ;) |
| 22:38.51 | ast3rismo | willwh: sorry, the baby woke up, now it's sleep again |
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| 22:38.58 | ast3rismo | peterS: sorry |
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| 22:39.45 | ast3rismo | peterS: willwh, y have open ports in the local router like this, 80, 21, 22, 24, 443, 5222 and 6667 |
| 22:40.01 | ast3rismo | but not 5901 or 5900 that i usually use with VNC |
| 22:40.20 | peterS | DoctorD90: anyway, 'man update-flashplugin-nonfree' to see how to run it. the manpage describes where it stores the file that it downloads. That sounds like the information you need. |
| 22:40.32 | ast3rismo | i need to change a setting in the local router, say enable ports for imap/ssl and smtp/ssl |
| 22:40.45 | peterS | ast3rismo: if you're asking how to add ports 5900 and 5901 to some random non-free soho router, that's also not a debian question |
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| 22:41.06 | ast3rismo | but i cannot change it through SSH in a text browser with 192.168.1.1 which is the config page of the router |
| 22:41.18 | ast3rismo | peterS: listen |
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| 22:41.32 | ast3rismo | you mentioned ssh tunneling |
| 22:41.38 | peterS | yes |
| 22:41.39 | ast3rismo | i never used that before |
| 22:41.45 | peterS | I described how to do it |
| 22:41.51 | peterS | I even asked you, twice, to try it |
| 22:41.57 | DoctorD90 | peterS: i have yet download 'second' file that flashplugin-nonfree downloads...but i dont know how to manage it... |
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| 22:42.04 | ast3rismo | the debian question is, can i use ssh tunneling for open an X application in a remote machine? |
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| 22:43.16 | peterS | ast3rismo: for that you can use ssh -X, but if the application you're trying to open is iceweasel, it (a) is going to be rather slow, and (b) may not work at all, because iceweasel is too smart for you, if it's already running elsewhere on your same login, it will not bother to open another instance on the display you want it to |
| 22:43.16 | babilen | rook2pawn: Splendid, enjoy! |
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| 22:44.14 | ast3rismo | peterS: i can kill all iceweasel sessions of the remote machine |
| 22:44.32 | ast3rismo | i do not know the command i should write |
| 22:44.51 | peterS | you're asking two questions here. how can you reconfigure your soho router from outside your network, and how can you run iceweasel on your inside box but displayed through ssh to your outside box |
| 22:45.09 | peterS | the answer to the first question does _not_ need to involve the second oen |
| 22:45.32 | ast3rismo | i tried ssh -X -p 24 root@server, should i launch an application then? |
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| 22:46.01 | ast3rismo | answer the second one then |
| 22:46.34 | peterS | the answer to the second question is yes, but as I already explained, if the purpose is to be able to do the first thing, then it's a pretty annoying way to do it |
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| 22:47.24 | peterS | if you are running a session of ssh -X, then go ahead and run iceweasel from the shell |
| 22:48.22 | peterS | which is fine if you happen to not have a web browser installed on your outside machine. But that seems unlikely, most people don't go around with computers these days with no web browser installed on them |
| 22:49.00 | ectospasm | unless they're servers |
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| 22:49.20 | peterS | ectospasm: people don't "go around" with "servers" though. those usually stay put. |
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| 22:49.51 | peterS | ectospasm: I'm assuming this guy has a laptop at starbucks or something, not that he's trying to get into his home network from a server in a datacenter |
| 22:49.58 | ectospasm | but "outside" machine could refer to a colo, or a VPS, no? |
| 22:50.11 | ectospasm | I didn't read above that comment, so... |
| 22:50.22 | ast3rismo | i launched iceweasel but the command prompt stay like hanged, should i wait? |
| 22:50.46 | ectospasm | X forwarding is S-L-O-W |
| 22:50.54 | ectospasm | even over a LAN |
| 22:50.55 | peterS | ast3rismo: It may have just decided to launch an additional window or tab in your existing login session |
| 22:51.03 | peterS | iceweasel is clever like that |
| 22:51.08 | ast3rismo | no |
| 22:51.09 | peterS | doing what you clearly don't want |
| 22:51.11 | ast3rismo | i got it |
| 22:51.14 | ast3rismo | its working |
| 22:51.56 | peterS | ectospasm: so maybe he has a server without a browser but if so it's a server that he has an X session on |
| 22:52.21 | peterS | and usually if you have an X session on a computer these days, there's a graphical browser of some sort if you look for it |
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| 22:53.34 | peterS | let me guess. you're configuring your soho router using iceweasel from your home machine, instead of just forwarding a port through ssh like I described in detail earlier |
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| 22:54.50 | ast3rismo | peterS: i'll try both ways |
| 22:55.08 | ast3rismo | i don't completely understand the -L |
| 22:55.21 | ast3rismo | that is useful to reaching out |
| 22:55.26 | ast3rismo | not in |
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| 22:58.57 | DoctorD90 | peterS: sorry, and do you know about font? i have download too 'ttf-msfont' or somethibg similar...the windows font. it downloads "arial32.exe" and 'unpack it' ....how do that :P |
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| 23:00.52 | peterS | DoctorD90: everything I know about these non-free packages, you can know as well, just by reading files in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 23:01.42 | peterS | that's where the 'postinst' script for a given package lives. read the postinst and you get a good idea of what it does at installation time. that of course is the interesting part of these kinds of downloader packages |
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| 23:03.35 | DoctorD90 | ok, great ^^ many thx peters ^^ |
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| 23:05.30 | babilen | DoctorD90: There are nice fonts in fonts-liberation that are compatible with ms core fonts and, in part, have a better design |
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| 23:23.07 | DoctorD90 | thx babilen |
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| 23:28.08 | tomman | Is there an archive of specific package versions which used to be in Experimental? |
| 23:28.27 | Nik05 | there is the debian archive |
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| 23:29.23 | nkuttler | !tell tomman about snapshot |
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| 23:30.04 | dipi | ldd show me that one shared lib is not found but i can see it in /usr/local/lib. How do i know where it tries to find it? |
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| 23:31.27 | tomman | Thanks! Problem solved. |
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| 23:34.36 | ScottE | dipi: are you sure the library is compiled for your architecture? As far as where the loaders looks, by default, see /etc/ld.so.conf.d/* |
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| 23:36.55 | LinuxGuy2020 | Hello I am looking for a video record/edit app. I installed openshot but it doesn't seem to have a recording feature. Am I wrong on this? What are my options for apps to record and edit with? I'm using an inline hdmi/component video recorder with USB hookup to pc. |
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| 23:55.46 | ctmjr | if your using a video recorder why do you need a recording app does'nt the video recorder do this for you |
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| 23:57.36 | dipi | ScottE: The symbolic link is pointing to a file with ELF 64-bit, x85-64 so i that should not be the problem |
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