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| 00:10.58 | __alex | ah, dh_auto_test |
| 00:11.00 | __alex | thx ;) |
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| 00:19.18 | JoaoCarneiro | Ahoy! |
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| 00:25.27 | ScottG489 | Why is it 'recommended to pick out single backports and not use all backports available'? |
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| 00:26.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys is there a local group i got to be apart of to login as my user to desktop |
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| 00:31.30 | abrotman | ScottG489: that's the default |
| 00:31.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | allirght guys what am i missing, |
| 00:32.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | i can do a login command as root and login as my AD/winbind user on the cli |
| 00:32.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | but i cant do it from a reg. termin like the alt+f1-4 kind, and i cant login through gdm or xdm i tried both.. |
| 00:32.39 | JoaoCarneiro | Eryn_1983_FL: what seems to be the exact problem? have you examined .xsession-errors in ~ |
| 00:32.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | ah nope i was looking at auth.log |
| 00:33.48 | JoaoCarneiro | x² |
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| 00:35.06 | JoaoCarneiro | Eryn_1983_FL: you can't login at all? |
| 00:35.13 | JoaoCarneiro | is that account locked? |
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| 00:35.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | nope |
| 00:36.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | i can login fine on other desktop |
| 00:36.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | local user themis can login Ad user cannot on this host specifcally |
| 00:36.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | working on those logs had to install curl to get it off the box |
| 00:36.57 | JoaoCarneiro | getent user |
| 00:37.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | returns fine JoaoCarneiro |
| 00:37.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | with use info so does wbinfo -U |
| 00:38.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am wondering if it pam or something? |
| 00:38.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | last log i could fine |
| 00:38.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/AJWI |
| 00:38.57 | JoaoCarneiro | what is that? |
| 00:39.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | the xorg log |
| 00:39.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | there isnt a xsession log in the home dir so.. |
| 00:39.37 | JoaoCarneiro | i don't usually open url's unknown people hand me out in irc |
| 00:39.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 00:39.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | promise its not a virus :) |
| 00:40.06 | JoaoCarneiro | lol |
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| 00:42.41 | JoaoCarneiro | listen, if you can't log in at a console, bringing xorg in won't make things simpler |
| 00:42.56 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Right its the default but would you say it's a bad idea to always get the newest version when possible? |
| 00:42.57 | JoaoCarneiro | you're using winbind to access the windows domain? |
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| 00:43.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | yes |
| 00:43.24 | abrotman | ScottG489: not sure it works like that .. |
| 00:43.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | thats all seems to be working on the 9 other boxes i have.. |
| 00:43.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | including my desktop right here. |
| 00:44.02 | JoaoCarneiro | getent groups returns all the domain groups? |
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| 00:44.56 | ScottG489 | abrotman: I could just alias 'aptitude' to 'aptitude -t wheezy-backports' |
| 00:44.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | JoaoCarneiro: in its current configuration it wont pull them all up but i can query any of the doamin groups and it shows them like domain admins or domain users |
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| 00:46.41 | JoaoCarneiro | i haven't used winbind in years, remotely recall that there was an easy way to debug |
| 00:46.56 | abrotman | ScottG489: that seems .. silly |
| 00:47.33 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Why? Then I always get the most up to date version? |
| 00:47.42 | ScottG489 | I mean I'm playing devils advocate here |
| 00:47.54 | ScottG489 | But what are the disadvantages of doing that? |
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| 00:48.29 | JoaoCarneiro | Eryn_1983_FL: here you go check out -d http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/winbindd.8.html |
| 00:48.49 | abrotman | of what? |
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| 00:50.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 00:50.36 | JoaoCarneiro | Eryn_1983_FL: and here you have the specific conf you got to do to use winbind's auth through PAM |
| 00:50.46 | JoaoCarneiro | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/pam_winbind.8.html |
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| 00:52.06 | JoaoCarneiro | ls /var/log/ |
| 00:54.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | well that didnt work.. |
| 00:54.46 | JoaoCarneiro | Eryn_1983_FL: have you been through the doc? /etc/security/pam_winbind.conf and pump up the debug level |
| 00:54.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | going to have to wait till i get two days off to go nuts with the winbind |
| 00:55.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | got to take a shower and go to work now was hoping it was something simple. |
| 00:55.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | going to have to go through all of pam. |
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| 00:56.31 | JoaoCarneiro | Eryn_1983_FL: and monitor syslog |
| 00:56.41 | JoaoCarneiro | as it seems all the pam debug goes there |
| 00:56.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
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| 00:57.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | its saying user not found and i know its there the other boxes see it i got Network, i was able to login with login command but now it stopped.. |
| 00:57.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | after i added my ldap user to all the groups that themis is apart of .. |
| 00:57.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | weird |
| 00:57.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | well show bye! |
| 00:57.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | shower |
| 00:58.01 | JoaoCarneiro | bye |
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| 01:26.01 | abrotman | phillip__: apt-cache search jre |
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| 01:27.24 | phillip__ | There is over 25 results. |
| 01:27.43 | phillip__ | I need the java runtime for iceweasel. |
| 01:28.37 | abrotman | read the results, I'm not going to read them for you |
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| 01:29.31 | phillip__ | I am not sure which one I need to install? |
| 01:29.55 | phillip__ | This one is already installed icedtea-7-jre-jamvm |
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| 01:30.48 | abrotman | Did you check your about:plugins, did you restart IW after installing? |
| 01:30.49 | phillip__ | http://pastebin.com/NCaazSCq |
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| 01:31.50 | phillip__ | I restarted it and the same iissue. |
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| 01:46.50 | phillip__ | I will can not find the java runtime for weasel. |
| 01:47.09 | phillip__ | I will can not find the java runtime for iceweasel. |
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| 01:47.52 | BenNZ | phillip__: have searched for it ? |
| 01:47.57 | BenNZ | *have you |
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| 01:48.28 | a84444 | i just tested out windows 8.1 on VM |
| 01:48.35 | a84444 | its sick shit |
| 01:48.50 | a84444 | i gonna stay with xp and then move to debian 64bits |
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| 01:48.58 | a84444 | how to make debian look like windows95? |
| 01:49.24 | Aeiri | wut |
| 01:49.43 | phillip__ | I got over 20 results in the search. |
| 01:50.07 | a84444 | because best OS gui invented ever is win95 gui |
| 01:50.20 | a84444 | actually i use XP but with CLASSIC gui so it looks like win95 |
| 01:50.21 | JoaoCarneiro | icewm |
| 01:50.22 | Spec | surely you mean win3.1 |
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| 01:50.42 | a84444 | well, win95 gui is improved win3.1 gui |
| 01:50.45 | dizzylizzy | a84444: my friend got her arch install to look like Windows 95 almost exactly, same icons same font same aliasing same everything |
| 01:50.51 | abrotman | phillip__: you were given the answer |
| 01:50.52 | whomp | whenever i try an apt-get install, it tells me it can't find the package. what's the issue? |
| 01:50.56 | a84444 | dizzylizzy, perfect.. thats what i need |
| 01:51.05 | dizzylizzy | What you need is to embrace the new digital age |
| 01:51.08 | abrotman | whomp: pastebin your sources.list |
| 01:51.09 | dizzylizzy | :) |
| 01:51.09 | Spec | whomp: did you run apt-get update prior to install? |
| 01:51.18 | phillip__ | Is this the one openjdk-7-jre |
| 01:51.28 | abrotman | phillip__: did you read the descriptoins of the packages? |
| 01:51.47 | a84444 | dizzylizzy, what they use for that? (kde/gnome/etc ) |
| 01:52.03 | phillip__ | I am reading them. |
| 01:52.24 | abrotman | dpkg: tell phillip__ about java |
| 01:52.37 | whomp | Spec, can't find anything |
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| 01:52.45 | whomp | gimme a package it should be able to work with |
| 01:52.47 | dizzylizzy | a84444: my friend used XFCE, i can't find the screenshot just now |
| 01:53.05 | abrotman | whomp: pastebin your sources.list |
| 01:53.54 | a84444 | well actually i plan to keep use win xp for years, until per-process 2GB limit will be too low for me |
| 01:54.01 | a84444 | then ill move to debian |
| 01:54.21 | a84444 | oh wait.. i could use winxp64bit |
| 01:54.43 | abrotman | a84444: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 01:55.04 | a84444 | but im using the debian already as VMs |
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| 01:55.44 | dizzylizzy | a84444: found it! http://i.imgur.com/AlMSxGO.png |
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| 01:56.31 | a84444 | dizzylizzy, beautiful |
| 01:56.34 | phillip__ | I have all the openjke packages install and still not working with iceweasel. |
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| 01:57.16 | AmonXz | What is the default user and password... I think I skipped that step during the install and now I cant log into my new Debian install I tried root/password and root/(blank) |
| 01:57.43 | ctmjr | there is no default |
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| 01:58.11 | dizzylizzy | AmonXz: perhaps you should boot off of the install medium into rescue mode, start a shell in the recently installed system, and run 'passwd' |
| 01:58.25 | dizzylizzy | that'll get you started |
| 01:59.47 | ctmjr | login in with your user name and password |
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| 02:01.54 | a84444 | tell me, how to install xfce on debian |
| 02:02.07 | a84444 | i currently have kde. will i lose desktop icons etc? |
| 02:02.37 | dizzylizzy | none of your old software should be removed |
| 02:02.48 | dizzylizzy | but the XFCE interface will differ from the kde one |
| 02:03.50 | a84444 | but how to, what commands to enter into console? what magic keywords |
| 02:04.00 | dizzylizzy | as root, try installing 'xfce4' and 'xfce4-goodies' |
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| 02:05.53 | a84444 | apt-get xfce4? |
| 02:06.10 | a84444 | will it close all running apps/windows? |
| 02:06.15 | dizzylizzy | apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies |
| 02:06.19 | dizzylizzy | No, it will not |
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| 02:06.57 | a84444 | ok thanks |
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| 02:13.02 | AmonXz | thank you :) |
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| 02:15.13 | ScottG489 | I'm having trouble with wifi. I loaded the b43 driver and I can see it when I run ifconfig -a but that's about where it ends. When I run iwlist scan it says the interface doesn't support scanning: Network is down |
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| 02:29.44 | shingouz | ScottG489: up the interface first. iirc, after taht you should be able to iwlist |
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| 02:33.16 | ScottG489 | shingouz: tried that |
| 02:33.26 | shingouz | and? |
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| 02:35.26 | ScottG489 | shingouz: ifconfig up wlan0 says 'wlan0: unknown host' |
| 02:35.59 | ScottG489 | ifup wlan0 says 'ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0' |
| 02:36.14 | shingouz | ScottG489: give it an ip... man ifconfig |
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| 02:37.27 | ScottG489 | oh hm this isn't how i'm used to using ifconfig |
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| 02:37.33 | ScottG489 | What address do I give it...? |
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| 02:38.10 | shingouz | ScottG489: give it something in a private range. 192.168.1.1 for instance |
| 02:39.08 | ScottG489 | tried that, same error |
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| 02:39.48 | shingouz | ScottG489: paste the output of iwconfig -a somewhere |
| 02:39.50 | ScottG489 | oh wait something happened |
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| 02:40.33 | acu | I am trying to install debian jessie amd32 with btrfs and it does not format during install I am trying to make /EFIboot 500 MB / (btrfs) /swap |
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| 02:41.27 | abrotman | amd32? |
| 02:41.49 | abrotman | dpkg: tell acu about testing install |
| 02:41.51 | abrotman | dpkg: tell acu about testing installer |
| 02:42.03 | abrotman | oh good, bot dead |
| 02:42.19 | abrotman | dpkg: tell acu about testing installer |
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| 02:42.37 | abrotman | acu: please only ask one channel |
| 02:43.13 | shingouz | abrotman: did you get dpkg to wake up? looks like he is listening to me |
| 02:43.59 | abrotman | shingouz: he was lagging |
| 02:44.09 | shingouz | lack of caffeine |
| 02:44.19 | abrotman | dinner time |
| 02:44.45 | shingouz | not too sure about that. not even 6am here :P |
| 02:45.29 | abrotman | it's 745 where the bot is |
| 02:45.42 | acu | thanks - bot works |
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| 02:48.39 | us`0gb | doen't understand why IRC booted him from this channel |
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| 02:49.19 | us`0gb | I lost connection, and when I regained it, I auto-rejoin all my channels save for this one. |
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| 02:54.58 | phillip__ | A8444 are you trying to run a windows emulator under linux? |
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| 02:55.25 | Zironid | Hi |
| 02:55.51 | Zironid | I'm having some trobule with NetworkManager |
| 02:57.20 | shawnbon206 | is it okay to call .bashrc from .bash_profile so that it executes no matter if youre in interactive shell or not? or should i put the thing in my /etc/bash.bashrc instead? its just an alias for ls to add --color. |
| 02:58.15 | shawnbon206 | er, login shell vs not. |
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| 02:59.25 | shingouz | shawnbon206: afaik, if you put the --color in your bashrc, it will always be in use |
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| 03:03.18 | phillip__ | Debian took this our of the packages apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 03:04.09 | shawnbon206 | it hasnt been ( this is over ssh, eg ssh johndoe@host) unless i su johndoe without the "-" |
| 03:04.21 | shawnbon206 | shingouz ^ |
| 03:04.25 | Derpadong | Anyone using atheros wireless card on Debian? |
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| 03:05.22 | shingouz | dpkg: tell Derpadong about anyone |
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| 03:06.58 | shingouz | shawnbon206: i have the feeling that you need to check what your ssh is doing. when the color is enabled in bashrc, it works in every bash instance you open on the box after that, console or terminal |
| 03:08.13 | shawnbon206 | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/bashrc-doesn't-execute-on-ssh-login-329009/ |
| 03:08.17 | shingouz | shawnbon206: before it works, you need to open a new bash instance, btw |
| 03:08.19 | Derpadong | shingouz, You arent a helpful person |
| 03:08.23 | Derpadong | =| |
| 03:08.40 | Derpadong | I just wanted to know if anyone used it so I could get help |
| 03:08.50 | shingouz | dpkg: tell Derpadong about ask |
| 03:09.14 | Derpadong | Nevermind dumb one |
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| 03:09.26 | shingouz | takes a bow |
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| 03:10.23 | shawnbon206 | shingouz i logged out and back in is that what you mean? i can turn color on and off simply by "su johndoe" then "su - johndoe" |
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| 03:10.53 | shawnbon206 | and so on and so forth |
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| 03:12.19 | shingouz | strange... in this case i have to do the ihavenoclue-routine, mostly because i have not had enough caffine to wake my brain |
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| 03:14.46 | klide_ | in the expert install mode, what's the difference between linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 and linux-image-amd64? |
| 03:15.46 | shawnbon206 | ok no problem :), i will continue studying .bashrc .bash_profile, and their /etc conterparts and any files tied to those |
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| 03:16.14 | shingouz | klide_: linux-image-amd64 keeps the kernel updated, the other one makes you update it yourself |
| 03:16.36 | klide_ | ah |
| 03:16.51 | klide_ | is there a way to switch after the install? |
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| 03:17.17 | shingouz | klide_: just install another kernel. or the linux-image-and64 if you want |
| 03:17.19 | klide_ | (i moved the cursor and forgot which was the default setting, so i accidentally installed the non-updating one) |
| 03:17.22 | klide_ | ok |
| 03:18.28 | shingouz | klide_: personally i do not like the auto update, but i am on sid |
| 03:18.48 | monkwitdafunk | hi debian channel |
| 03:18.56 | klide_ | another question, is there a way to reboot a computer by itself with an encrypted disk? like, write the passkey to disk then reboot, use the passkey, then erase it (or any more secure alternative)? |
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| 03:19.04 | klide_ | oh wait, kexec, nevermind |
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| 03:19.21 | Tijuanense | i keep trying to install wine on debian |
| 03:19.25 | Tijuanense | and this error keeps popping up |
| 03:19.26 | Tijuanense | http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg |
| 03:19.29 | Tijuanense | what is this? |
| 03:20.21 | metaphysician | !ops Tijuanense |
| 03:20.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_: metaphysician complains about: Tijuanense |
| 03:20.56 | klide_ | wat |
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| 03:21.34 | Tijuanense | metaphysician seems to be mentally disturbed |
| 03:21.42 | Tijuanense | i just came in asking for help |
| 03:22.32 | klide_ | is the error the thing telling you to do dpkg --add-architecture blah blah? |
| 03:22.45 | klide_ | i can't view images so i can't see the imagur link |
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| 03:23.16 | metaphysician | The imgur image is NSFW |
| 03:23.21 | klide_ | oh |
| 03:23.30 | klide_ | what is it? |
| 03:23.41 | whomp | abrotman, sorry that i disappeared, but to refresh, i wasn't able to find any packages on my debian 6.0 server with `sudo apt-get install ...`. here's a pastebin of my sources.list file: http://pastebin.com/mnDtZdVM |
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| 03:24.37 | metaphysician | klide_: nudity |
| 03:24.54 | klide_ | shock image? |
| 03:24.58 | klide_ | or just generic porn |
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| 03:26.18 | somiaj | whomp: what packages were you looking for?> |
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| 03:26.59 | whomp | somiaj, rvm and coffeescript |
| 03:27.53 | somiaj | whomp: netierh are available in squeeze. Looks like they are both in sid, and coffeescript has been backported to wheezy. |
| 03:28.08 | somiaj | whomp: the only rvm packages I see are saying they are only in sid, and I didn't find any exact package rvm. |
| 03:28.31 | somiaj | whomp: (oh the rvm packages I found are only for the m68k port anyways so that won't help most likley) |
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| 03:29.34 | whomp | somiaj, so i have to do this manually? |
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| 03:30.52 | somiaj | whomp: yes. You can probabaly backport coffeescript easy enough. Again unsure about rvm |
| 03:31.04 | somiaj | whomp: have you considered the though of upgrading to wheezy? |
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| 03:31.18 | whomp | it's a client's server |
| 03:33.21 | somiaj | understandable, I'm not sure if the squeeze eol date has been set or not, but its probabaly not that far away, look slike as early as May 2014 |
| 03:34.01 | somiaj | But yes if you /msg dpkg ssb, those instructions may help y ou make a backport of that package. I am not familar with the package so I have no clue how easy it will be on squeeze or not. |
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| 03:35.01 | shawnbon206 | shingouz i found this: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/10/execution-sequence-for-bash_profile-bashrc-bash_login-profile-and-bash_logout/ |
| 03:35.37 | shawnbon206 | i havent found found anything to contradict it in my testing (so far) |
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| 03:37.16 | archdaemon | shawnbon206: have you had a look at man bash? it explains all of that |
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| 03:46.25 | CygniX | anyway to get apache 2.4 in wheezy? |
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| 03:49.22 | doggmatic19 | hello guys |
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| 03:50.10 | doggmatic19 | "/msg guidlines" |
| 03:50.39 | doggmatic19 | "/msg guidelines" |
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| 03:58.38 | shawnbon206 | sorry i did not notice those line breaks |
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| 04:14.38 | phillip__ | Has anyone mess around with flashpolicyd? |
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| 04:15.57 | phillip__ | Binding on 0.0.0.0 is no good |
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| 04:18.33 | phillip__ | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:843 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 0 3486893 3534/ruby |
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| 04:26.24 | julian-delphiki | phillip__, i haven't but its pretty simple code. |
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| 04:26.36 | julian-delphiki | and whats wrong with binding on 0.0.0.0 |
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| 04:28.20 | phillip__ | It does not always except connections if you use that ip address . |
| 04:28.32 | julian-delphiki | I'm not sure what you mean |
| 04:28.38 | julian-delphiki | 0.0.0.0 just means all interfaces. |
| 04:28.51 | phillip__ | I am testing it now and the port is closed. |
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| 04:29.14 | julian-delphiki | is the script sucessfully running? |
| 04:29.39 | julian-delphiki | how are you starting it |
| 04:29.42 | phillip__ | Maybe something else is causing the issue that is preventing the connection on the server. |
| 04:29.57 | phillip__ | I type /etc/init.d/flashpolicy start |
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| 04:31.12 | julian-delphiki | sry my connection just got dropped -- likely a firewall in the way? |
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| 04:31.32 | phillip__ | I have the ports opened on the firewalls. |
| 04:31.45 | julian-delphiki | but if you telnet to the port and ip it doesn't connect? |
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| 04:32.55 | phillip__ | I do not have telnet installed on the local machine its not available with debian |
| 04:33.09 | julian-delphiki | yes it is. |
| 04:33.35 | julian-delphiki | apt-get install telnet |
| 04:33.40 | julian-delphiki | though you could use netcat. |
| 04:34.04 | julian-delphiki | can you connect to it from localhost? |
| 04:34.50 | phillip__ | I am using Centos and I am install it. |
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| 04:35.10 | julian-delphiki | so you're connection from CentOS to Debian? |
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| 04:37.17 | julian-delphiki | phillip__, ? |
| 04:37.17 | phillip__ | I will do some testing tommrow. |
| 04:37.20 | julian-delphiki | okay, |
| 04:37.27 | phillip__ | Ty |
| 04:37.38 | julian-delphiki | its certainly listening if you see that in your netstat output |
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| 04:48.53 | phillip__ | I got it to work |
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| 04:59.33 | andry | hi folks |
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| 05:00.19 | clue_h | hi |
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| 05:00.39 | andry | is there a known problem with i386 repo in jessie at the moment? i added i386 via dpkg an get hash mismatches on update. cleaned apt and lists directory etc, still the same |
| 05:01.19 | centrx | andry, Try another server? |
| 05:01.23 | tapout | if i already have a certificate for my vsftpd, is there a way to bump the expiration? |
| 05:01.38 | andry | i just tried server #4 and it works :P thanks |
| 05:01.43 | andry | :) |
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| 05:03.56 | andry | tapout, you need a new request anyway, i think. but it is self-signed, right? |
| 05:05.22 | andry | just generate a new one if it is :) openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 7300 -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout bla_ssl.key -out blabla.pem |
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| 05:06.30 | tapout | I self-signed.. yeah i'll just recreate a new one |
| 05:06.32 | tapout | cheers |
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| 05:12.21 | andry | i still wonder if there is an office suite that is able to display my ms office 2013 table of contents correctly |
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| 05:15.58 | tapout | andry, do you know how display the info on the other keys? I have another server i'd like to see when it expires |
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| 05:17.27 | andry | echo | openssl s_client -connect ftp.tapout.de:21 2>/dev/null | openssl x509 -noout -dates |
| 05:17.50 | andry | site:port for your service |
| 05:18.34 | WalterN | silly question, how do I install wine 1.7 on my debian-testing system? (I tried http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ but those are built for debian-stable evidently) |
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| 05:26.30 | centrx | WalterN, I would wait until it is packaged. |
| 05:26.30 | Devastator | WalterN have you check debian backports? |
| 05:27.35 | WalterN | I donno? probably not |
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| 05:28.48 | centrx | WalterN, I think you just have to compile it, it's a development version |
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| 05:29.20 | andry | i just tried the sid wine in jessie for you .. not good. better compile it |
| 05:29.30 | centrx | WalterN, That link you provided has packages for ... unstable |
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| 05:30.08 | centrx | WalterN, That's basically the same as testing but a little older. You might possibly need to upgrade a library or two to the unstable version, but otherwise it should compile fine |
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| 05:30.50 | WalterN | hmm |
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| 05:32.56 | centrx | WalterN, Rather testing is a little older than unstable |
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| 05:37.26 | zanzacar | I am trying to determine how to set a default audio playback device. Can anyone point me in the correct direction? |
| 05:38.03 | zanzacar | I know which one is which through aplay -L and I have used speaker-test -D to verify which is which. Now I just want to set it. All this is via the terminal too. |
| 05:39.09 | andry | hm you can set indexes via modprobe conf lines |
| 05:39.27 | andry | https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA < troubleshooting |
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| 05:40.46 | zanzacar | thanks this looks excellent. I will see if I can get it working this way. |
| 05:41.02 | jeka | hi, how i can to know configure compile options for the strongswan package ? |
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| 05:41.43 | andry | dont know if i get you right jeka, but configure --help shows all options for the package |
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| 05:42.51 | Genitrust | on Debian 7.4, how does one properly start up sshd ? |
| 05:42.52 | jeka | i have installed strongswan package from backports, and need compile options for this binary pkg |
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| 05:44.49 | andry | hmmm jeka, if the software has no option for this, you can also download the deb package, extract it and go to debian/rules |
| 05:45.42 | andry | Genitrust, service ssh start |
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| 05:46.41 | Genitrust | andry i did that, and sshd is running ... however, from another computer (this one) i get: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/0c66870a/ |
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| 05:47.31 | andry | use the full path, maybe thats the problem |
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| 05:47.43 | andry | but .. hm |
| 05:47.49 | Genitrust | i'm running scp -v now |
| 05:48.06 | andry | yes . and try "ssh machine" |
| 05:48.11 | andry | to see why it fails to connect |
| 05:48.28 | Genitrust | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8ef08562/ |
| 05:48.56 | Genitrust | ssh 192.168.1.3 just sits there waiting... |
| 05:49.26 | Genitrust | that would be so retarded if the router is blocking the connection... -.- |
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| 05:50.50 | andry | hm, google suggests you check the permission (owner) of your key files |
| 05:51.42 | Genitrust | "key files"? you mean the pub/private keys in ~/.ssh ? |
| 05:52.12 | Genitrust | the most i get in that debug paste is "roaming not allowed" |
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| 05:55.51 | Genitrust | hmm, does the default ssh config for Debian not allow password authentication?? =\ |
| 05:56.54 | z8z | Genitrust: did you check your firewall config? |
| 05:57.25 | andry | packages in sid changed to not allow root password login, but user access via pw is still allowed |
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| 05:57.42 | z8z | Genitrust: i mean host firewall conf |
| 05:58.14 | z8z | Genitrust: 'cause by default ssh allow user login but not sudoers |
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| 06:00.46 | Genitrust | z8z, i just checked "telnet 192.168.1.3 22" ... and i get this: |
| 06:00.49 | Genitrust | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/231fffbd/ |
| 06:00.53 | Genitrust | so it looks like all is well |
| 06:01.00 | Genitrust | what else should i check for troubleshooting? |
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| 06:01.48 | z8z | Genitrust: can you post iptables-save result from host shell? |
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| 06:02.09 | jshriver | Does debian have a firewall by default blocking WAN access? |
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| 06:02.30 | Genitrust | z8z, i could if i knew how |
| 06:02.58 | z8z | jshriver: just type iptables-save > result.txt from the terminal |
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| 06:03.07 | z8z | Genitrust: sorry that was for you |
| 06:03.13 | jshriver | I tried a iptables -L and doesn't show anything |
| 06:03.27 | z8z | Genitrust: you have to be root |
| 06:03.50 | jshriver | :INPUT ACCEPT [32521:31966831] |
| 06:03.50 | jshriver | :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] |
| 06:03.50 | jshriver | :OUTPUT ACCEPT [26110:2154013] |
| 06:03.50 | jshriver | COMMIT |
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| 06:04.16 | jshriver | sorry about that |
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| 06:04.57 | jshriver | thought I'd try disabling iptables, but there is no service or /etc/init.d/iptables |
| 06:05.04 | Tijuanense | hey |
| 06:05.09 | Tijuanense | I am trying to update debian |
| 06:05.13 | Tijuanense | and keep getting this error message |
| 06:05.17 | jshriver | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 06:05.20 | jshriver | what error? |
| 06:05.21 | z8z | jshriver: lol post a pastebin link |
| 06:05.29 | jshriver | z8z, of what? |
| 06:05.30 | Tijuanense | http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg |
| 06:05.37 | Tijuanense | jshriver http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg |
| 06:05.45 | z8z | jshriver: don't flood the channel..... of your iptables-save result |
| 06:06.05 | jshriver | trolling much Tijuanense ? |
| 06:06.33 | jshriver | http://pastebin.com/BmEhivFL |
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| 06:07.11 | z8z | jshriver: Ok you have default debian firewall config so basically no firewall :D |
| 06:07.18 | jshriver | ok |
| 06:07.24 | jshriver | hrm must be an issue with my router then |
| 06:07.25 | z8z | jshriver: install ufw |
| 06:07.40 | jshriver | using DD-WRT and it's not allowing ssh or web to forward there |
| 06:07.40 | z8z | jshriver: yes... what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 06:08.00 | z8z | jshriver: sure a router issue |
| 06:08.05 | jshriver | even tried remapping inbound 8080 local to 80 |
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| 06:08.17 | jshriver | have done this many times over the years but just now causing me issues.. |
| 06:09.01 | jshriver | accessing it from the LAN works perfectly... but from the outside thru DD-WRT and port forwarding doesn't seem to work.. |
| 06:09.15 | z8z | jshriver: i can hardly help you with that not having access to the router |
| 06:09.29 | z8z | jshriver: but i guess it may be using some other port |
| 06:09.37 | jshriver | it's ok :) just wanted to rule out local firewall issues |
| 06:09.49 | jshriver | appreciate the help. |
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| 06:10.09 | z8z | jshriver: anyway installing a firewall would be a good idea... and i suggest ufw |
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| 06:11.27 | z8z | Genitrust: did you check it? |
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| 06:11.58 | Genitrust | no, i said "screw this", installed openssh server on the ubuntu machine, and then copied the file from the debian machine scp'ing into the ubuntu machine |
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| 06:12.33 | jeka | andry no debian rules https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/strongswan-charon |
| 06:12.59 | z8z | Genitrust: which file? |
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| 06:13.11 | Genitrust | z8z doesn't matter -.- |
| 06:13.22 | z8z | Genitrust: :| |
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| 06:13.59 | Genitrust | will brb |
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| 06:15.45 | jeka | andry found it strongswan_5.1.1-3~bpo70+1.debian.tar.xz, thx |
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| 06:37.42 | nf7 | When I use apt-get update, I get a bunch of "404 Not Found", and "Failed to fetch...", etc. Is there a way to fix these or get rid of these errors? |
| 06:38.03 | Cork | nf7: switch to another mirror |
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| 06:38.23 | Cork | /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 06:44.17 | nf7 | Cork: Is it just one of the URLs that I need to change? Or a bunch of them? Perhaps it would be easier to just copy the default one, or a new one? |
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| 06:44.51 | Cork | nf7: you need to replace the server that returns 404 |
| 06:44.58 | Cork | as the mirror isn't up to date |
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| 06:45.13 | Cork | if you haven't added third party packages it should be 6 links |
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| 06:46.11 | Cork | nf7: the file is created when you install debian, you get a selector for the mirror to use |
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| 06:48.34 | nf7 | Cork: Can I get the default file online somewhere? I did add a few third party packages a long time ago, so I'm not sure which is which. It'll be easier to start from scratch and add my third party links instead of having to take them away without knowing what's what. |
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| 06:49.37 | Cork | nf7: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#A.2Fetc.2Fapt.2Fsources.list |
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| 06:59.54 | tejprullen | Hi there, i'm thinking about writing a thesis (same time as i'm learning more) about eather kerberos or some kind of mass administration software like Puppet. I have been stuying two years with lots of networking and CS. What do you guys think would be more useful for me as a way into my first job as IT-tech or similar? |
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| 07:01.15 | OpenTokix | tejprullen: Writing a thesis on configuration management would probably be a good idea. |
| 07:01.25 | OpenTokix | tejprullen: Do it tool agnostic |
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| 07:03.58 | tejprullen | OpenTokix: Thanks for a quick answer. I also thinks that would actually be way better with a deeper knowledge in conf. mgmt |
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| 07:04.33 | OpenTokix | tejprullen: Esp. since there is so much "truth" in it |
| 07:04.40 | OpenTokix | tejprullen: Very imature in some ways |
| 07:04.54 | OpenTokix | tejprullen: Swedish? |
| 07:05.01 | tejprullen | OpenTokix: yes |
| 07:05.32 | OpenTokix | åsm |
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| 07:06.37 | n1 | anybody can help me with strongswan? |
| 07:07.46 | WormFood | n1, good luck with that. I was never able to make it work without crashing my server. I couldn't afford the down time to troubleshoot it, so I was never able to get it working. I need to try again, on a non-production server. |
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| 07:09.38 | n1 | WormFood will try? :) |
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| 07:10.24 | WormFood | I will give it a shot later, maybe. I haven't decided. I don't really need it, since I have openvpn working. (I live in China, and OpenVPN is actually blocked by the great firewall of China) |
| 07:10.32 | dontknow | hi! i may try debian stable, but there is no acpi_call package to disable discrete cpu |
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| 07:10.55 | dontknow | how do you disable discrete amd cpu without installing blob? |
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| 07:12.11 | nf7 | Cork: so I restored all the default sources, but I'm still getting all the same errors. Is there some other location where I might have put sources and forgotten about them? Or is /etc/apt/sources.list the only one? |
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| 07:12.57 | Cork | nf7: same location sources.d |
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| 07:22.33 | nf7 | Cork: Great, that did it. Thanks a lot. I ended up generating a default sources list from debgen.simplylinux.ch |
| 07:22.51 | Cork | nf7: nice |
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| 07:40.01 | tapout | so nginx runs as www-data. I have some sites using wordpress, which wants permissions. Should I add my user to the group www-data, and then change my umask to 007 ? .. |
| 07:40.26 | tapout | so whenever i create a file, it's always ... joe:www-data .. and both the user/group can edit the files? or how do you guys do it? |
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| 08:01.30 | mepl | Are there any site where I can see status on upcomming debian updates? I am wondering why debian not yet have implemented 5.5.0. I really want those password features natively. |
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| 08:02.06 | centrx | What is "5.5.0"? |
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| 08:05.11 | pfote | sounds a bit like a php version |
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| 08:06.25 | centrx | *gasp* |
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| 08:06.39 | oskie | ok, on system B, i want to install all packages that are installed on system A. versions and releases must be the same. any ideas how? |
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| 08:07.14 | phre4k | hey guys, I have Debian 7 on a HP N54L and there's only one core showing in /proc/cpuinfo, albeit the CPU has 2 cores. |
| 08:07.27 | phre4k | how do I change that? Is that an issue with the kernel? |
| 08:07.49 | phre4k | my Kernel is 3.2.0-4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.54-2 i686 |
| 08:07.52 | centrx | phre4k, What architecture do you have installed? |
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| 08:08.42 | centrx | phre4k, Presumably you want to use the amd64 kernel |
| 08:09.01 | BenNZ | phre4k: use a 686 kernel , or 64bit if you can |
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| 08:11.49 | phre4k | centrx, BenNZ: I already use a 686 kernel, see above |
| 08:12.21 | phre4k | why would a x64 kernel be able to identify more than one core? |
| 08:12.23 | BenNZ | phre4k: 3.2.0-4-486 <-486 |
| 08:12.45 | phre4k | ah, okay. but why does uname -a show "i686"? Is this because of PAE? |
| 08:12.50 | f31n | hi, does anyone know where "back in time" saves the profiles? I'm trying to port the config to another machine. |
| 08:12.55 | BenNZ | phre4k: 3.2.0-4-686.pae would be 686 |
| 08:13.17 | phre4k | as it's a production server, is it possible to upgrade the kernel to i686 or x86_64 without much downtime? |
| 08:13.40 | oskie | amd64/x86_64 upgrade requires reinstall |
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| 08:14.01 | phre4k | okay, is there any downside to using the i686 kernel? |
| 08:14.38 | oskie | yeah, but you can try the 686-pae package first. it requires a reboot of the machine |
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| 08:15.52 | phre4k | if I set it in the grub (?) bootloader as default option, this should work, shouldn't it? I don't want to add a screen and keyboard again ;) |
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| 08:16.32 | phre4k | package name is linux-686-pae, right? |
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| 08:17.03 | dFence | morning guys |
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| 08:18.44 | phre4k | damn, linux-image-686-pae. I am confused as I use Arch on my Desktop ;) |
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| 08:19.24 | samael | hello |
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| 08:20.16 | dFence | I know it's not the most fitting place, but maybe someone stumbled accross a similar issue. My traffic is routed through a tunnel via my German server, I'm in the UK -- for some reason, some youtube-videos don't work and I guess it has something to do with the proxy settings (.youtube.com is in the no-proxy list) -- are there any other URLs I need to exclude from the proxy? |
| 08:20.25 | samael | what is the quickest way to download a whole apt repo for debian (not an official one)? simply download all .debs is enough, i don't need an actual mirror |
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| 08:21.04 | mepl | centrx: sorry, it's PHP. |
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| 08:21.41 | aysorth | samael: I'd go with downloading the complete install cds |
| 08:21.45 | BenNZ | phre4k: linux-image-686-pae linux-headers-686-pae |
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| 08:23.48 | phre4k | wow, nice, my second CPU core is recognized now! But why was that? I never had an issue with not recognizing a CPU core, even as I ran a 486 kernel on a modern laptop... |
| 08:23.50 | jelly | phre4k: and yes, you can install linux-image-amd64 if you want and your cpu is capable |
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| 08:24.09 | phre4k | but if I do that, I'd have to reinstall the system? |
| 08:24.41 | jelly | nope, reinstall is required of you want to switch the userspace. Booting a 64bit kernel is fine. |
| 08:24.55 | BenNZ | phre4k: no it will just install a new kernel |
| 08:25.01 | jelly | I guess oskie was confused about that. |
| 08:25.07 | phre4k | are there any advantages over i686 if I don't use 64bit apps? |
| 08:25.17 | samael | aysorth: it's not an official repo, there are not installation media available |
| 08:25.30 | phre4k | other than the overhead because the address space isn't used? |
| 08:25.38 | jelly | phre4k: that's pretty much it |
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| 08:26.03 | phre4k | okay, then I'll stick with i686-pae. ty again! |
| 08:26.14 | jelly | not using PAE ought to be a performance benefit, but I haven't gone and measure anything |
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| 08:27.09 | phre4k | I doubt the performance benefit would be more than 4-5%, so that's okay for me. |
| 08:27.10 | phre4k | now another question: I there a simpler way for VPN end users than creating an SSH tunnel with ssh -D? |
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| 08:27.39 | jelly | probably not |
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| 08:27.53 | BenNZ | phre4k: you might lose performace because of pae but youll be able to use both cores , so youll end up ahead |
| 08:28.04 | jelly | it's usually the vpn itself that sets up routes |
| 08:28.16 | phre4k | specifically I have some of the Mac OS Master Race in my firm which I want to partly integrate into the network, but they shouldn't have server accounts. At the moment I chroot them into their directory and disallow sudo. |
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| 08:29.15 | Aliekezhi | hi, after installing debian (stable) on a disk with EFI/GPT, windows 8 (which was on another disk without GPT) isn't detected by grub2-efi anymore...Any idea ? |
| 08:29.20 | phre4k | which gives them the server IP and access to the internal network, but nothing more. Now they want a "1-click-solution" because opening a terminal and typing "./connect_vpn.sh" isn't simple enough. |
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| 08:59.42 | mepl | what is the chance of two uniqid's are the same? |
| 08:59.58 | WormFood | then they wouldn't be unique, would they? |
| 09:00.03 | mepl | there is only one chance per day of this being? |
| 09:00.24 | mepl | does they do only seconds or days, weeks , months aswell? |
| 09:00.28 | mepl | In that case I'm fine |
| 09:00.48 | WormFood | well, you need to be more specific. What is generating the unique id? |
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| 09:01.30 | mepl | I noticed that uniqueid can only generate the same id if the post is made on the same millisecond, that is impossible in our enviornment. |
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| 09:01.48 | mepl | I thought it was day-wise not YY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS:.. wise |
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| 09:03.20 | mepl | using rand(100,999) as prefix should ALMOST eliminate the chance of that happening :D |
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| 09:05.37 | OpenTokix | or just use UUID's thats what they are there for =) |
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| 09:09.33 | earthian | Hello, what is the best way to implement automated upgrades of certain packages? I am on Jessie and Xfce but I want to have some sort of control so that the system does not break |
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| 09:10.06 | earthian | The updates are needed for kernel/driver for wifi card which are buggy at the moment...probably too new hardware stil |
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| 09:13.33 | earthian | So is cron and apt-get -y -qq -f install linux-image-amd64 firmware-iwlwifi ok |
| 09:13.34 | earthian | ? |
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| 09:15.31 | SynrG | i don't know how cron helps here, since you need to reboot and/or reload the wifi module for that to have accomplished anything |
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| 09:16.32 | themill | installing any packages from cron is a step beyond where I feel comfortable, let alone in jessie and certainly not the kernel... |
| 09:16.47 | earthian | SynrG, well reboots do happen anyway on a home laptop. |
| 09:16.57 | earthian | themill, I feel the same.. so came for advice :) |
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| 09:17.23 | SynrG | earthian: the problem with automatic upgrades is they sound like a neat idea until they break something |
| 09:17.56 | SynrG | you may feel "how could it be more broken?" maybe you don't want to find out |
| 09:18.23 | earthian | SynrG, I know that feeling too well... :P |
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| 09:20.03 | earthian | the wifi keeps loosing network and slowing down rather frequently. Reconnecting helps and there is a "flight mode" button on the laptop which disconnects all wireless and reconnects again after second press... so it is easy to reconnect and teach my parents to do so :) But it would be nice to avoid the problem completely if possible. |
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| 09:20.55 | nikomo | Ugh, my wifi keeps doing the same thing, the part that really annoys me is that I can't remember if it's always done that, or if it's a regression |
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| 09:22.36 | earthian | nikomo, what chip do you have? mine is 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) |
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| 09:22.49 | nikomo | It's an RTL8188CE if I remember correctly |
| 09:22.56 | nikomo | sec |
| 09:23.13 | nikomo | Yup |
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| 09:23.42 | nikomo | Going through OS install right now so I thought I couldn't check but then I remembered virtual terminals exist |
| 09:24.03 | nikomo | I was using the 3.14-rc8 kernel with a btrfs root, did a hybrid-suspend, must have hit some cornercase because the filesystem killed itself |
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| 09:26.35 | earthian | ohh.. Do you think Intel iwlwifi would be better in regards to stability even if newer hw? |
| 09:27.15 | nikomo | From what I've heard, Intel chips are fairly good, but in my experience Atheros is most reliable and stable |
| 09:27.37 | nikomo | I'd swap the wifi in my laptop, but there's a BIOS whitelist and I can't be bothered to figure out how to bypass it |
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| 09:33.17 | WormFood | nikomo, what type of laptop. My laptop also has whitelist, but it's fairly easy to get around. Maybe take an hour of your time to research it, find the right files, and actually do it. |
| 09:33.34 | nikomo | Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E325 |
| 09:33.49 | nikomo | I tried looking once, but the results were less than promising |
| 09:33.55 | WormFood | yep, I was thinking Lenovo...it bothers me that they do that, but I understand why they do it. |
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| 09:34.08 | WormFood | You just need to flash a different bios, that has the whitelist check removed |
| 09:34.13 | nikomo | Hard at work ruining the ThinkPad line |
| 09:34.30 | WormFood | also, some people report success by covering up pin 20 on the pcie connector |
| 09:34.51 | WormFood | I have a wwan card I want to install in my thinkpad T520, but it's not on the whitelist. |
| 09:35.15 | WormFood | oh yeah, another thing you can do, is change the pci id, to report something that is on the whitelist, but that creates other problems (but easy to work around with Linux) |
| 09:35.54 | WormFood | to tell you the truth, IBM started doing that, not Lenovo. Lenovo has just kept up the practice. |
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| 09:36.42 | WormFood | I bricked a thinkpad W510 by trying to update the BIOS in Winblows....fortunately, I know how to fix it. (replace the damn chip) |
| 09:37.33 | nikomo | My E325 couldn't hibernate under Linux before I updated the UEFI/BIOS hybrid setup. Thing is, I didn't want to update the damn thing without a good reason, and the changelog said nothing about hibernate |
| 09:37.54 | nikomo | The changelog was pretty much something like "Fix a typo" and some other stuff, but apparently they'd fix hibernate too |
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| 09:38.39 | nikomo | Wasn't much of a problem, I don't hibernate, and I'm doing an install without swap now, so I can't hibernate with that. It's an Arch install though |
| 09:38.39 | WormFood | yeah, they do that sometimes |
| 09:39.10 | WormFood | for updating the bios of a thinkpad, I strongly recommend doing it in DOS. I've done a LOT of thinkpad bios updates, and NEVER had a problem doing it in DOS |
| 09:39.40 | WormFood | now I just download the ISO image, extract the hard drive image of that, drop it on a usb stick, and boot from that. ;) |
| 09:39.49 | WormFood | and burn a new bios |
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| 09:40.31 | nikomo | The E325 upgrade procedure was either use a CD or DVD (the laptop has no optical drive) or use a Windows utility |
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| 09:40.51 | nikomo | I grabbed the disc image and mounted it as a virtual CD drive with my Android phone, too lazy to screw around with the disc image |
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| 09:50.05 | Deele | hey |
| 09:50.15 | Deele | I'm following http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch-sec-services.en.html guide |
| 09:50.32 | Deele | I have a question about "listen address" |
| 09:50.50 | nikomo | shoot |
| 09:51.01 | Deele | what should I set it to, if I currently have dhcp |
| 09:51.21 | Deele | and when I will move this server to other location, or get new dhcp address |
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| 09:52.07 | nikomo | You're already denying root logins and listening on a non-standard port, I'd go ahead and just use 0.0.0.0 |
| 09:52.10 | Deele | is there a way to add "any address from eth0"? |
| 09:52.18 | nikomo | 0.0.0.0 listens to everything |
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| 09:52.53 | Deele | or there is no use to limit interfaces? |
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| 09:53.07 | Deele | if I have only one ethernet card |
| 09:53.42 | Deele | I mean, limit address |
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| 09:54.19 | nikomo | I wouldn't bother with that since the non-standard port is good enough against people scanning entire IPv4 address space |
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| 09:54.56 | Deele | nikomo port range 49152 through 65535 is the one, that is OK to use/ |
| 09:54.57 | Deele | ? |
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| 09:55.42 | nikomo | Yeah, those are unassigned, I doubt any of those will be used by any software for anything so there won't be a conflict |
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| 09:58.32 | Deele | nikomo, in short, how does ssh authorized keys authorization works in daily basis? I have a new user, that wants to connect to server, what needs to be done? |
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| 10:00.19 | nikomo | Assuming both user and server are running Linux, user has to first run ssh-keygen to generate keys, and then copy the keys to the server with ssh-copy-id |
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| 10:01.01 | nikomo | After that, when the user tries to SSH into the server, it'll ask for a password to the keys if one was set during ssh-keygen, and then handle login automatically with keys |
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| 10:02.01 | nikomo | It's really convinient since smarter shells will do stuff path autocompletion on the remote host when using scp, if you have keys set up - it'll login to the server in the background and fetch directory listings |
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| 10:03.32 | bezaban | nikomo: oh wow. Never knew that, but it jsut works :D |
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| 10:05.06 | Deele | nikomo, so, new user creates key and generates some sort of "access request", and sends it to server admin, who in turn adds that request to authorized_keys list, after that and notices new user, afterwards, user adds his key in putty config (or other ssh software) and connects |
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| 10:06.06 | nikomo | If you're using one of the up-to-date forks of PuTTY (putty-tray or similar), there's a button right at the bottom of the main window that says Keygen, you can generate the keys with that under Windows |
| 10:06.41 | Deele | I'm sorry for so many questions regarding ssh, here, in debian channel... |
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| 10:09.29 | Asad3ainJalout | Hello guys, I have a question about patching |
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| 10:11.34 | Asad3ainJalout | essentially i type "patch -p1 < /home/Asad3ainJalout/.surf/surf-blah-blah.diff" while in the /usr/bin directory where surf is located |
| 10:12.29 | Asad3ainJalout | It then prompts me with with which file i want to choose (between a/surf.c or b/surf.c. typeing either doesnt work, when typing in just plain old surf. it says the hunk failed |
| 10:12.39 | Asad3ainJalout | basially I am wondering what I am doing wrong |
| 10:12.43 | SynrG | Asad3ainJalout: you don't patch binaries. you patch source. |
| 10:12.49 | SynrG | Asad3ainJalout: what's the patch for anyway? |
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| 10:13.15 | SynrG | and why aren't you just using debian's surf package unpatched? |
| 10:13.25 | SynrG | ,v surf |
| 10:13.27 | judd | Package: surf on i386 -- wheezy: 0.4.1-8; jessie: 0.6-1; sid: 0.6-1 |
| 10:13.30 | Asad3ainJalout | SynrG: im using surf |
| 10:13.33 | jelly | Asad3ainJalout: you should not have source code under /usr/bin; that said, verify your -p parameter is correct |
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| 10:13.54 | SynrG | Asad3ainJalout: no kidding. i was not confused about that. :) |
| 10:13.55 | Asad3ainJalout | SynrG: i want to path in homepag and bookmark support for it |
| 10:14.08 | SynrG | Asad3ainJalout: what debian release do you use? |
| 10:14.14 | Asad3ainJalout | SynrG: wheezy |
| 10:14.17 | nikomo | If 0.6-1 has the support, you could just pull the package in from there |
| 10:14.25 | nikomo | (from jessie or sid) |
| 10:14.40 | Asad3ainJalout | SynrG: sorry been using ubuntu/mint for 3 years so im still learning how to really use linux |
| 10:15.05 | dontknow | i have read that some backported packages doesn't get security updates in stable. does debian get security updates if i install backported kernel? |
| 10:16.41 | boudiccas | i'm building a one-line command 'cd ~ && mkdir -p ~/.temp-qupzilla && cd ~/.temp-qupzilla && wget |
| 10:16.41 | boudiccas | git clone 'git://github.com/QupZilla/qupzilla.git' && cd ~/.temp-qupzilla/qupzilla && qmake && make && sudo make install && cd ~ && rm -R ~/.temp-qupzilla/qupzilla && rm -R ~/.temp-qupzilla' but i want to include ' export QUPZILLA_PREFIX="/usr/local/bin"' as a sub-command of 'make', but how do i put it within the one-line command script please? |
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| 10:17.28 | nikomo | pretty sure you can just do QUPZILLA_PREFIX="/usr/local/bin" make |
| 10:17.40 | boudiccas | ok ta |
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| 10:17.48 | nikomo | it'll set that variable for that one command only, FYI |
| 10:18.03 | dontknow | why no one answer me? |
| 10:18.07 | SynrG | Asad3ainJalout: it's ok. we were all newbies once. where did you get the patch? |
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| 10:18.30 | nikomo | dontknow: because I haven't got the darnest clue, I don't use wheezy outside of my server, packages are too old for desktop usage |
| 10:18.38 | stmaher | hi guys, Quick question does anyone know a vendor other than nexcom and lannerinc that do high density network port 3U rackmount servers |
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| 10:18.58 | SynrG | dontknow: i only just now read your question. life, you know |
| 10:19.01 | stmaher | looking to get new firewalls and need some suggestions .. Google isnt helping me much here and also looking for recommendations |
| 10:19.21 | SynrG | dontknow: let me look into that for you |
| 10:19.33 | dontknow | SynrG, how? |
| 10:19.35 | Shadur | Hm, is the systemd in wheezy stable enough for production? |
| 10:19.57 | SynrG | patience |
| 10:20.14 | dontknow | you people saying stable is not suitable for desktop? |
| 10:20.27 | nikomo | I'm saying it's not suitable for my desktop usage |
| 10:20.38 | dontknow | and is it less secure? |
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| 10:21.04 | SynrG | dontknow: http://backports.debian.org/FAQ/ |
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| 10:21.36 | SynrG | dontknow: security is done on a "best effort" basis. naturally, the kernel gets more attention, so i don't think you should worry about that. |
| 10:21.38 | nikomo | Security is a big black box of corner cases and difficult questions |
| 10:21.50 | dontknow | SynrG, let me check |
| 10:22.32 | Shadur | dontknow: Less secure has nothing to do with it; security fixes are the one thing that /do/ get back-patched into stable. It's just that by Debian philosophy, stable means "does not break existing setups, PERIOD" which translates into /new/ versions of packages generally not making it in. |
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| 10:23.23 | SynrG | dontknow: that page does not specifically mention the kernel. however, it is my belief the kernel team cares enough about the state of security for the backports kernel that it should not be a concern |
| 10:23.45 | dontknow | SynrG, i see ok |
| 10:24.08 | jelly | they seem to care about about backported kernel security about as much as they care for sid kernel security |
| 10:24.12 | dontknow | Shadur, so testing and stable is the same considering security? |
| 10:24.21 | nikomo | The last kernel exploit that was in the wild was the x32 ABI stuff, and Debian wasn't vulnerable in any version because Debian didn't have it enabled |
| 10:25.06 | nikomo | dontknow: Probably, but in the end, your configuration is going to matter more than the software package versions |
| 10:25.11 | SynrG | jelly: which is ... ? |
| 10:25.49 | nikomo | If you run SSH on a default password, allow root login and set the root password as "toor", doesn't matter what version your ssh server is |
| 10:25.52 | nikomo | default port* |
| 10:27.36 | jelly | SynrG: [this answer omitted intentionally] |
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| 10:27.45 | dontknow | you people suggest me to install testing? |
| 10:27.55 | Nik05 | no |
| 10:28.07 | nikomo | What are you using the machine for? |
| 10:28.28 | dontknow | daily usage |
| 10:28.44 | nikomo | If you're just doing web browsing and document editing, Wheezy/stable is fine, but I'm the type of guy who wants to regularly trip when walking the bleeding edge, so I'll run the latest I can get |
| 10:29.10 | Shadur | dontknow: No, testing is generally something of a mess and potentially worse than unstable security-wise. Don't use it unless you really, really know what you're doing and don't mind sifting through the wreckage and carefully reading the reports from apt-listbugs before doing an upgrade. |
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| 10:29.46 | nikomo | I'd use stable if I were you |
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| 10:30.29 | dontknow | ok. going to try stable, but also going to install backported kernel because of hardware compatibility |
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| 10:32.36 | Shadur | dontknow: Don't forget firmware-linux-nonfree then |
| 10:33.17 | dontknow | Shadur, nooo! i don't install it! |
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| 10:33.49 | dontknow | Shadur, i use free distro |
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| 10:35.22 | dontknow | i am not going to use non free shit |
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| 10:37.57 | nikomo | Wish I could go without the firmware package, but I'd be stuck in 640x480 with no WiFi if I did that on my laptop |
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| 10:38.40 | SynrG | nikomo: firmware is a necessary compromise |
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| 10:39.35 | nikomo | I'm okay with both the way FSF classifies firmware, and using nonfree firmware, but meh |
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| 10:39.58 | nikomo | FSF: If the chip running the firmware acts as a dumb circuit and the firmware can't be upgraded, then it's cool |
| 10:40.08 | SynrG | wll, and the way debian classifies firmware. we decide these things for ourselves and don't just blindly follow the FSF |
| 10:40.12 | Shadur | dontknow: Suit yourself, but depending on which hardware you say you need an updated kernel for, you may wind up having to either use it or go without the hardware's capabilities. |
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| 10:40.16 | DarsVaeda | how can I activate network time in gnome 3.4.2.1 under deb wheezy? I can switch it on but it is off as soon as I close that window again |
| 10:42.36 | dontknow | Shadur, it's ok. it has free driver inside kernel after 3.2 i guess |
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| 10:47.08 | rgr | nofree shit? Good luck with that. Dont even hope to have your nvidia or ati card working to even 10% of its capabilities. |
| 10:48.01 | tparcina | I have put "options nf_conntrack_ftp ports=21,4559" in "/etc/modprobe.d/local" but "nf_conntrack_ftp" isn't loaded afther reboot. |
| 10:48.16 | tparcina | So I have to execute "nf_conntrack_ftp ports=21,4559" manually. |
| 10:48.38 | tparcina | Anybody knows the reason why module isn't loaded during system boot? |
| 10:49.12 | petn-randall | tparcina: See 'man modprobe.d', that's expected behaviour. |
| 10:49.39 | petn-randall | tparcina: You can exec "modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp", and it will load the module with those parameters. |
| 10:50.34 | tparcina | Can I put it in the same file, or I need to put it somwhere else? |
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| 10:52.32 | SynrG | rgr: that's a nice bit of overstatement |
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| 10:52.54 | halt | Hi All, I'm searching for a solution to have more up-to date lenses for augeas on stable debian without adding testing repo and use pacakge pining is there anyone around who facing the same issue ? |
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| 10:53.23 | nikomo | I don't know about Nvidia, but my AMD APU requires firmware for pretty much anything outside 640x480/800x600 non-accelerated output |
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| 10:54.30 | nikomo | Being "free" does pretty much require RMS-levels of effort, if you want to stay even fairly modern in your Internet usage |
| 10:54.44 | Brigo | tparcina, /etc/modules-load.d/ |
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| 10:56.05 | Brigo | halfie, lenses for augeas? |
| 10:56.19 | tparcina | Brigo: Thank you. I don't have /etc/modules-load.d/ but I have found /etc/modules. |
| 10:56.45 | nikomo | Augeas is a library and command line tool that focuses on the most basic problem in handling Linux configurations programmatically: editing actual configuration files in a controlled manner. |
| 10:56.45 | SynrG | while radeon requires firmware, it's catching up to fglrx in performance: |
| 10:56.49 | SynrG | http://www.reviewlinux.com/radeon-open-source-performance-over-three-years-compared-to-catalyst-23121.html |
| 10:56.50 | Brigo | tparcina, it should be enougth :) |
| 10:57.03 | OpenTokix | nikomo: cfengine |
| 10:57.27 | SynrG | oops, guess i should link the phoronix article itself: |
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| 10:57.29 | nikomo | I just copied the first line from the package, apparently the lenses package providers modules that read config files |
| 10:57.29 | SynrG | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_legacy_ubuntu1404&num=1 |
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| 10:58.05 | halt | Brigo: augeas-tools and augeas-lenses package |
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| 10:59.11 | halt | and the lib of course |
| 10:59.35 | Brigo | ok, thanks :) |
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| 11:00.57 | halt | it's a magic, once you will know it, just read about it and will understand why i miss it ;) |
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| 11:04.00 | Brigo | halt, i am reading but still dont see the point. If you want some package up to date you can try to download them manually and install it. If they have too much dependecies, you can try to compile it for yourself. |
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| 11:08.22 | dontknow | why doesn't debian have icon packages in repos :D |
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| 11:08.42 | dontknow | like faenza icons |
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| 11:09.08 | nikomo | Either nobody's cared enough to package them, or licensing |
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| 11:09.30 | nikomo | Licensing is pretty much why Firefox is called Iceweasel on Debian etc. |
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| 11:11.34 | dontknow | nikomo, i have something better than iceweasel right now. it is iceweasel-libre :D |
| 11:11.36 | OpenTokix | Isnt that trademarking ;) |
| 11:11.47 | SynrG | nikomo: that's a trademark issue, which is different |
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| 11:12.44 | nikomo | They wouldn't grant Debian a license to the trademark, so I'm right in my own special way, in my club, to which you are not invited. |
| 11:13.05 | nikomo | The best thing about the Internet is that you never have to admit you're wrong. |
| 11:13.30 | SynrG | but not comparable to typical artwork licensing issues |
| 11:13.37 | SynrG | which was the topic |
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| 11:14.43 | sandman13 | is it possible to add currently connected wired connection to the list of connection? |
| 11:15.16 | SynrG | nothing prevents a dfsg-sanitized icon package (say, if it included firefox logo) from entering debian |
| 11:15.38 | SynrG | it's probably just a matter of nobody caring sufficiently to do it. |
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| 11:16.53 | SynrG | nikomo: and oh, they would grant us a license, i think. just not on terms we could accept :p |
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| 11:17.25 | nikomo | If I remember correctly, they granted a license but then took it back |
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| 11:19.24 | sandman13 | anyone? |
| 11:19.49 | nikomo | I have no idea what the question even meant. |
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| 11:21.33 | sandman13 | ? |
| 11:22.16 | nikomo | I have no idea what your question means. If you mean is it possible to add the current wired connection to the network list in the network manager list in GNOME, it's there by default |
| 11:22.25 | nikomo | It should be named Wired Connection 1 or something like that |
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| 11:22.38 | SynrG | unless it isn't |
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| 11:23.23 | SynrG | if it's there but marked "not managed" or so, then check your /etc/network/interfaces ... if your interface is listed there, that's why |
| 11:23.26 | sandman13 | nikomo it says unmanaged and please pardon for my lack of knowledge |
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| 11:23.48 | SynrG | if you want NM to manage it, you need to remove the stanza for that interface from /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:26.12 | gry | seriously? no package for nodejs in debian? I keep reading things like https://gist.github.com/x-Code-x/2562576 |
| 11:26.36 | SynrG | ,v nodejs |
| 11:26.37 | judd | Package: nodejs on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 0.10.21~dfsg1-1~bpo7+1; jessie: 0.10.26~dfsg1-1; sid: 0.10.26~dfsg1-1 |
| 11:26.42 | SynrG | gry: there is |
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| 11:27.14 | sandman13 | SynrG: what to remove from this: http://paste.debian.net/90756/? the primary connection? |
| 11:27.16 | SynrG | gry: also, not making it into wheezy was a fluke of timing. nodejs was only just beginning to take off when wheezy first released, so was not ready yet. |
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| 11:27.25 | SynrG | gry: but you can use the backport |
| 11:27.41 | yohh | looking for a copy of debian 5 standard install iso |
| 11:28.06 | yohh | tried http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/5.0.10/i386/iso-cd/ and downloaded cd 1, not sure if that's the right one but googled the md5sum and it didn't match anything so skeptical |
| 11:28.45 | SynrG | "googled the md5sum"? |
| 11:28.56 | SynrG | as opposed to just checking the md5sum in the same dir? |
| 11:29.26 | SynrG | why do you think the md5sum would be widely indexed by google? |
| 11:29.32 | SynrG | there is such a thing as robots.txt ... |
| 11:29.48 | SynrG | anyway, yes, that looks right to me. |
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| 11:30.04 | yohh | 96a5feb5c94ac785a139a71f13a28f51 ? |
| 11:30.25 | SynrG | http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/5.0.10/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS |
| 11:30.29 | SynrG | says that's correct |
| 11:30.35 | yohh | ok fair enough |
| 11:30.40 | SynrG | and the file is signed |
| 11:30.43 | SynrG | you can check the sig |
| 11:31.35 | gry | SynrG: ok; what is an easy way to do it? |
| 11:31.37 | yohh | and is that the right cd for just plain regular install? sorry the normal page just links to one as far as i can remember. i remember there was some catch with the lot of cds... |
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| 11:33.05 | SynrG | gry: in the faq: https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify |
| 11:33.33 | SynrG | gry: as for "some catch", dunno |
| 11:33.43 | SynrG | what's "plain regular install" to you? |
| 11:34.05 | SynrG | cd-1 contains the default desktop (except in later releases it is spread across cd-1 and cd-2) |
| 11:34.32 | SynrG | i gotta run. bus to work |
| 11:35.20 | gry | SynrG, I was referring to backport |
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| 11:36.17 | SynrG | gry: oops |
| 11:36.27 | gry | I have no idea how to use them |
| 11:36.28 | SynrG | got the two threads mixed up :) |
| 11:36.36 | SynrG | !tell gry about backports |
| 11:37.01 | gry | can't it just tell me how? |
| 11:37.06 | SynrG | argh, wrong one |
| 11:37.11 | SynrG | !debian-backports |
| 11:37.11 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 11:37.19 | SynrG | i have to run. bus ... gonna miss it |
| 11:37.27 | gry | I'd be happy to read all the charming docs once I get the relevant packages installed |
| 11:37.33 | gry | ta, good luck |
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| 11:42.02 | gry | installed nodejs from backports but npm is just not there |
| 11:42.11 | gry | ,v npm |
| 11:42.13 | judd | Package: npm on i386 -- jessie: 1.4.4+ds-1; sid: 1.4.4+ds-1 |
| 11:42.14 | gry | ,v nodejs-npm |
| 11:42.15 | judd | No package named 'nodejs-npm' was found in i386. |
| 11:42.22 | gry | ,v nodejs |
| 11:42.23 | judd | Package: nodejs on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 0.10.21~dfsg1-1~bpo7+1; jessie: 0.10.26~dfsg1-1; sid: 0.10.26~dfsg1-1 |
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| 11:42.53 | gry | apparently jessie is just more special, whatever it means |
| 11:43.00 | jelly | judd: checkbackport npm |
| 11:43.24 | judd | Backporting package npm in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: node-glob. |
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| 11:44.04 | Nik05 | judd: checkbackport node-glob |
| 11:44.04 | Nik05 | ? |
| 11:44.04 | judd | Backporting package node-glob in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 11:44.45 | jelly | recursion, n.: see recursion |
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| 11:48.18 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 11:48.19 | dpkg | <Guerin> JVaughn: it's probably bourbon. bourbon and whisky are different like knoppix and debian. |
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| 12:06.48 | armin | hi, is there an easy way to get an easily parseable list of outdated packages? e.g. packages that could be upgraded via apt-get? |
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| 12:07.41 | themill | armin: aptitude search ~U |
| 12:08.23 | armin | themill: thx :) |
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| 12:10.07 | petern_ | Heh, I ended up parsing apt-get -y -d upgrade output. |
| 12:10.15 | petern_ | Hmm |
| 12:10.27 | petern_ | But then I don't have aptitude installed. |
| 12:11.33 | phre4k | is there an official Samba4 IRC? |
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| 12:12.09 | themill | phre4k: there's a #samba |
| 12:12.54 | davexunit | hello all. I run debian testing and I ran apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday. today when I booted my computer I got thrown into the grub rescue prompt with "error: symbol `grub_term_highlight_color' not found." |
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| 12:13.08 | andry | any using testing + lightdm + xfce and experienced that lightdm hangs if your login failed? |
| 12:13.24 | andry | not always, but like .. 4 out of 5 times |
| 12:13.45 | davexunit | I haven't encountered this type of grub failure before, and when I try to run "insmod linux" at the rescue prompt I receive the same error. |
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| 12:13.54 | davexunit | I'm not sure how to get around it and boot my system. |
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| 12:15.54 | jelly | davexunit: boot a liveusb stick, mount and chroot into debian, rerun grub-install ? |
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| 12:16.31 | davexunit | jelly: sure I'll give that a shot. thanks. |
| 12:16.36 | Aliekezhi | any idea how the bootmrg file can be missing for grub2 ? (with EFI +GPT) |
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| 12:17.06 | davexunit | I experience grub problems so infrequently these days that all the knowledge I gain fixing a problem is gone by the time another crops up. |
| 12:17.29 | davexunit | and I'm left feeling silly at the grub rescue console. |
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| 12:18.46 | phre4k | how do I find out from where getent gets its entries? |
| 12:19.03 | jelly | also, grub2 rescue mode is inferior to grub1 |
| 12:19.23 | musca | andry: yes, but better discuss it in #debian-next on oftc |
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| 12:19.49 | andry | already found a bug report for that, thank you musca :) |
| 12:19.51 | davexunit | jelly: this is a computer that I haven't used in awhile and I can't tell if I'm using grub2 or grub1. |
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| 12:28.37 | DammitJim | what is the consensus on using Chef? |
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| 12:33.28 | DammitJim | are there other software packages like chef for windows/linux? |
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| 12:35.22 | sandman13 | is it possible to update grub in debian7? |
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| 12:37.11 | wols | sandman13: of course |
| 12:37.41 | sandman13 | wois: with or without using backports? |
| 12:38.22 | wols | what do you actually want and why? |
| 12:38.49 | DammitJim | I guess puppet is like chef... any other products? |
| 12:39.08 | DammitJim | I see that one needs to basically learn a new language with puppet (not like I know ruby for chef) |
| 12:39.12 | markotitel | DammitJim, Ansible |
| 12:39.25 | markotitel | But still not for windows yet |
| 12:39.36 | DammitJim | yeah, I need the windows piece for sure :( |
| 12:39.48 | DammitJim | is there an IT channel? |
| 12:40.09 | markotitel | You can try with cygwin |
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| 12:40.23 | DammitJim | +1 for ansible... at least that seems to be python based |
| 12:40.42 | sandman13 | wols: i don't like looks of grub1 |
| 12:41.05 | DammitJim | and salt? |
| 12:41.59 | wols | sandman13: debian doesn't use grub1 |
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| 12:42.55 | babilen | DammitJim: I would recommend salt over ansible. The community is more welcoming and a more "open source" -- It's also very nice to work with. |
| 12:43.06 | babilen | s/a more/more/ |
| 12:43.25 | DammitJim | cool |
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| 12:43.33 | sandman13 | wols: okay if so how can i make it look like that which comes with ubuntu? |
| 12:43.52 | markotitel | babilen, I have started to use ansible 2 months ago and never had a feeling like that. |
| 12:44.03 | markotitel | basicalyy DammitJim you should try both. |
| 12:45.00 | wols | sandman13: ask ubuntu |
| 12:45.07 | babilen | markotitel: Well, I did and I am enjoying salt a lot. Both are, certainly, more enjoyable than cfengine, chef or, even, puppet (unless you need your hourly ruby fix) |
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| 12:51.00 | DammitJim | I know no ruby :( |
| 12:51.10 | DammitJim | that shouldn't be a reason not to do chef, though right? |
| 12:51.25 | Deele | what does ssh-copy-id really do? can I just copy public key in plaintext and paste it inside server authorized_keys file? |
| 12:51.41 | DammitJim | Deele, it sets the proper security on your key |
| 12:51.58 | DammitJim | wait... not on your server?! |
| 12:52.08 | jelly | Deele: you can, yes. |
| 12:52.24 | petn-randall | Is there a current overview and side-by-side comparison of cfengine/chef/puppet/ansible somewhere? I'm interested in getting my feet wet. :) |
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| 12:52.46 | jelly | Deele: ssh-copy-id is a shell script, read it if you want |
| 12:52.54 | Deele | I have workstation debian, that has just generated key and I want it to move to server debian and I am reading, how is that done, but I don't understand what exactly that ssh-copy-id does |
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| 12:54.28 | babilen | DammitJim: If you don't have to work with legacy deployments pick either salt or ansible, both are great tools and you will be happy |
| 12:54.40 | DammitJim | babilen, legacy like what? |
| 12:54.46 | DammitJim | I still have windows 2003 servers :( |
| 12:54.49 | DammitJim | and Red Hat 5 |
| 12:55.04 | jelly | Deele: it does [...] echo "$new_public_key" | ssh remote_server "umask 077 ; mkdir -p .ssh && cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys" |
| 12:55.19 | babilen | DammitJim: I meant: If you don't have an existing orchestration/configuration management system |
| 12:55.43 | DammitJim | oh... yeah, none of that exists in this organization... trying to come up with a plan to implement something like that |
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| 12:56.35 | DammitJim | I started looking into puppet, but I had to get so much stuff done quickly that I ended up just using cluster ssh for my linux servers (when changing/checking stuff) |
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| 12:59.46 | sandman13 | why doesn't my grub bootloader look like this: http://i1.wp.com/desktoplinuxreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Debian-7-GRUB.jpg? |
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| 13:01.09 | babilen | DammitJim: http://jensrantil.github.io/salt-vs-ansible.html mirrors my experiences quite closely |
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| 13:06.59 | Deele | jelly, can you tell me how to copy locally generated ssh public key to allowed keys, like, what command would copy ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and append to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys or something else, that needs to be done... |
| 13:08.08 | snoooop | hi all, I now have ubuntu installed but should prefer to use a more "free" distribution. I found this guide on your wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBookPro/7-1 but are not sure if I will get it to work? I often use a dual monitor setup and only the Nvidia drivers seem to be able to handle that. How difficult is it to install that kind of drivers ? |
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| 13:08.48 | babilen | snoooop: Not at all; See https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for details |
| 13:08.52 | themill | Deele: ssh-copy-id ... |
| 13:09.09 | jelly | Deele: how does ssh-copy-id fail for you? |
| 13:09.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i need somehelp gettin the mesa drivers to use opengl rendering is that even possible with intel drivers? i just want to use xbmc and it looks great on my new big screen but it wont start with out open gl |
| 13:09.55 | Deele | I have already closed down ssh connections, restricted to keys-only, and canot use ssh-copy-id to send it via ssh |
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| 13:10.59 | jelly | Deele: congrats, you locked yourself out then |
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| 13:11.25 | Devastator | heheh |
| 13:11.47 | Deele | jelly, doesn't cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/autorized_keys do that same thing? |
| 13:11.47 | jelly | log in at the console and restore password auth |
| 13:12.07 | jelly | Deele: but you have already closed down ssh connections |
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| 13:12.17 | ksk | hey. whats the way to load kernel modules automagicly on bootup? (fuse) |
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| 13:12.52 | Deele | jelly, but I need only to set up public key that I already have got inside server machine |
| 13:12.54 | jelly | Deele: are you still logged in after that? |
| 13:13.37 | jelly | Deele: so just add the relevant line to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 13:13.50 | ksk | the wiki says something about /etc/modutils/ which i dont have- should i create it or is that information somewhat deprecated or something? |
| 13:14.10 | jelly | Deele: make sure ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is mod 0600 |
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| 13:14.16 | Devastator | ksk edit /etc/modules |
| 13:14.18 | Deele | jelly, can you tell me if that command I just pasted does that? |
| 13:14.46 | jelly | Deele: I do not know where the copy of your public key resides |
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| 13:15.09 | Deele | jelly, that is correct location, just the question is about syntax |
| 13:15.12 | jelly | Deele: the command you pasted has a typo in the filename |
| 13:15.39 | Deele | which one |
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| 13:15.54 | snoooop | babilen, thanks, I did miss that post. Still I don't have much confidence that I will be able to get a good working system, Been fighting against Linux Mint for a week with just getting a black screen and no error messages. I can't find any testaments from people being able to install Debian on a macbook 2010. |
| 13:15.57 | jelly | <Deele> jelly, doesn't cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/autorized_keys do that same thing? |
| 13:16.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | so do i need to talk to the xorg peeps to get my xwindows workin with glx in intel? |
| 13:16.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
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| 13:16.11 | ksk | Devastator: thx |
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| 13:16.30 | Deele | jelly, yes, but which typo are you concerned about? |
| 13:16.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | well i guess i will work on it later but the screen works well so there is that good thing. |
| 13:16.41 | themill | Deele: the one that makes the filename incorrect |
| 13:16.43 | jelly | Deele: figure it out... |
| 13:16.58 | Deele | oh, you mean "h" letter? |
| 13:17.08 | Deele | ok, I got it |
| 13:17.09 | jelly | starting to suspect Deele is an intentional time waster |
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| 13:17.59 | Deele | I'm not native english speaker, as you may have guessed already, it is hard to notice such things |
| 13:19.20 | jelly | it'd be even worse if you _were_ a native speaker from the Brit side of things |
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| 13:21.44 | snoooop | are there many people coming here with problems regarding Nvida drivers? black screens ? sleeping mode that dosen't work, dual monitor issues ? |
| 13:21.57 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 13:21.57 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 13:24.57 | jelly | wonders whether anyone has a patched openssh that reads authorised_keys as well |
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| 13:25.31 | babilen | snoooop: I have no specific macbook related knowledge, sorry |
| 13:25.46 | themill | jelly: AuthorizedKeysFile in sshd_config |
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| 13:26.13 | jelly | ITYM AuthorisedKeysFile! |
| 13:27.23 | themill | /o\ |
| 13:29.45 | balor | can I tell debhelper to not sign a package somewhere in debian/rules? |
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| 13:32.30 | themill | balor: debhelper isn't signing your packages. How are you starting the build? |
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| 13:36.01 | balor | themill, I build using "dh --with autotools-dev" |
| 13:36.35 | themill | balor: that's not the command you're using to start the built |
| 13:36.37 | themill | d |
| 13:37.54 | balor | themill, oh yeah! thanks. I use dpkg-buildpackage, which should have a -uc -us :) |
| 13:38.09 | themill | yeah |
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| 13:40.45 | basiclaser | !anyone |
| 13:40.45 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 13:41.11 | dami0 | welp, turns out it's a different distro. bye~ |
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| 13:41.13 | dami0 | !* |
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| 13:42.26 | Sbroker | Hi from Spain |
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| 13:45.10 | ixti | Sbroker: :D |
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| 13:45.25 | ixti | Hi from Russian in Spain ;D |
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| 13:46.53 | halt | Brigo: yeah, that's an option, it does not have to many dep, but criticals, like libc, but I'm hopping to resolve it without a custom complied package, or pinning, I'm much more hoping, an backport wich more prefered the pinning and testing, or a custom set of lenses which are backword compatible with the 0.10 lib |
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| 13:47.46 | petn-randall | basiclaser: Do you need help with your Debian installation? |
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| 13:49.18 | Babalau | Guys a noob needs a lil help here |
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| 13:49.27 | ixti | very upset with systemd beign that hardly pushed into upstream :(( |
| 13:49.44 | Babalau | i want to resize some photos in multiple folders like this; mogrify -resize 100x100 * |
| 13:49.46 | ixti | it proposes me to install it every time i upgrade :(( |
| 13:50.11 | Babalau | and i try to do it like this (donno if it is correct): find . -name '*.jpg' | mogrify -resize 100x100 * |
| 13:50.14 | Babalau | does not work |
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| 13:50.31 | ixti | Babalau: this is incorrect |
| 13:50.36 | Babalau | ixti: :/ |
| 13:50.37 | Babalau | :) |
| 13:50.39 | Babalau | :( |
| 13:50.53 | themill | Babalau: you'd do better actually answer people's questions rather than move onto another channel and start again |
| 13:51.01 | blue_sky | how do I find the process id of the parent of a process .. (the ppid) |
| 13:51.02 | Babalau | lol |
| 13:51.16 | ixti | find . -name '*.jpg' | while read file; do mogrify -resize 100x100 $file; done |
| 13:51.17 | Babalau | this is actually other server |
| 13:51.31 | jelly | !using find |
| 13:51.32 | dpkg | somebody said using find was http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind or "man find" |
| 13:51.35 | ixti | actually, this is even better: |
| 13:51.39 | jelly | ^^ see Operations in bulk |
| 13:51.39 | themill | ixti: ick. |
| 13:51.41 | ixti | find . -name '*.jpg' | while read file; do mogrify -resize 100x100 "$file"; done |
| 13:51.42 | Babalau | aha |
| 13:51.45 | Babalau | thx jelly |
| 13:52.02 | themill | Babalau: dpkg told you that 10 min ago :S |
| 13:52.11 | ixti | another option to combine that with xargs |
| 13:52.12 | jelly | dpkg stinks? |
| 13:52.13 | dpkg | jelly: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 13:52.18 | Babalau | themill: not about operations in bulk :) |
| 13:52.27 | themill | ixti: that's truly horrible. find has a -exec for a reason. |
| 13:52.34 | jelly | Babalau: you were supposed to go read the page I gues |
| 13:52.56 | ixti | themill: i don't remember WHY i avoid using -exec |
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| 13:53.08 | jelly | themill: -exec syntax is horrible without a reason. I go use | xargs -n1 |
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| 13:53.18 | jelly | because ;? {}? srsly |
| 13:53.19 | themill | ixti: here, have some files with spaces in their filenamess. |
| 13:53.32 | Babalau | ixti: that works flawlessly |
| 13:53.47 | ixti | find | while read f; do ... "$f"; done |
| 13:53.56 | ixti | works perfectly fine with spaces |
| 13:53.58 | Babalau | now ixti if i run that for some more than 1000 files ... will my computer ... donno crash ? |
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| 13:54.21 | ixti | Babalau: i have no clue |
| 13:54.22 | themill | ixti: and have some filenames with newlines in them too. |
| 13:54.52 | ixti | themill: my version will save spaces as well |
| 13:54.58 | ixti | what youa re ttrying to say? |
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| 13:55.44 | themill | ixti: «while ; do .. done» is no syntactic improvement and is fragile and will break in lots of situations. |
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| 13:56.07 | ixti | themill: it never failed me |
| 13:56.19 | themill | that's only luck |
| 13:56.20 | ixti | themill: and i don't know why, but i hate -exec option |
| 13:56.22 | jelly | ixti: that "| while read f" does not work in bash |
| 13:56.34 | ixti | jelly: wat? |
| 13:56.38 | jelly | indeed. |
| 13:56.39 | kombi | after squeeze => wheezy, grub won't install on md0, what could be wrong? |
| 13:56.58 | ixti | jelly: it WORKS in bash |
| 13:57.02 | ixti | it's even works in DASH |
| 13:57.16 | jelly | ixti: try it. |
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| 13:57.32 | jelly | you'll have to open a subshell after the pipe |
| 13:58.04 | kombi | udev and grub2 have been driving me up the wall for years now... |
| 13:58.20 | ixti | jelly: man, are you sure you are using bash? |
| 13:58.24 | OpenTokix | kombi: you're pretty high up now then, hows the view? |
| 13:58.25 | ixti | because it works for me: |
| 13:58.31 | jelly | ixti: yes. It works in zsh. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/024 |
| 13:58.35 | kombi | great, an thin air too...;) |
| 13:58.49 | ixti | jelly: i told you - i used it in bash and dash as well |
| 13:59.06 | kombi | OpenTokix: are there too? |
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| 13:59.10 | kombi | *you |
| 13:59.29 | Babalau | ixti: thank you again |
| 13:59.39 | Babalau | i want to mogrify 14.000 photos |
| 13:59.44 | ixti | jelly: find . -type f | while read file; do echo $(basename "$file"); done |
| 13:59.51 | Babalau | 8gb ram ... donno if it will hold |
| 14:00.07 | jelly | ixti: nice, perhaps they fixed that |
| 14:00.11 | ixti | Babalau: it will be processing one file aftrt another |
| 14:00.20 | ixti | jelly: i use that in bash for more than 5 years |
| 14:00.32 | ixti | jelly: so i don't know WHEN they broke that |
| 14:01.16 | ixti | it won't work if you try pipe data in |
| 14:01.32 | ixti | like in script where you read some input |
| 14:01.45 | ixti | there are some issues (don't remember which ones) |
| 14:02.00 | petn-randall | Babalau: It should work without problem, it'll do it one file at a time. So unless a single convert job will eat all your RAM (after which it'll start paging to swap), you won't even notice it. |
| 14:02.07 | ixti | but those issues are mostly when you don't pay attention to what youa re doing :D |
| 14:02.13 | jelly | I'm probably misremembering something, then |
| 14:02.19 | ixti | :D |
| 14:02.48 | ixti | and only one thing bothers me now, why i can't build docker.io package :D |
| 14:03.00 | themill | ixti: your approach is *not* robust to icky input. Please stop pretending that it is. |
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| 14:03.26 | ixti | themill: what? |
| 14:03.27 | themill | ixti: newlines are legal in filenames -- your while loop will choke on them |
| 14:03.38 | ixti | themill: ah |
| 14:03.43 | ixti | that's true |
| 14:03.57 | themill | (which is what I said 10 minutes ago) |
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| 14:04.07 | ixti | themill: sorry then |
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| 14:04.12 | ixti | themill: i have misuderstood |
| 14:04.23 | ixti | by some reason i thought you were saying ony about spaces |
| 14:04.36 | themill | lack of quoting in your first version would also break on spaces |
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| 14:04.59 | ixti | yes, that's why i proposed another versions right after that one |
| 14:05.02 | ixti | wiith quotes |
| 14:05.08 | Babalau | ixti: 1 file after another but the CPU fires up |
| 14:05.10 | Babalau | :) |
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| 14:06.09 | ixti | Babalau: well, it should :D |
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| 14:08.24 | Babalau | what is /usr/bin/virtuoso-t +foreground +configfile /tmp/virtuoso_hx3681.ini +wait |
| 14:08.29 | Babalau | that takes 15% of the CPU lol |
| 14:08.36 | kombi | grub-install /dev/sda works, grub-install /dev/md0 fails, why might it be? |
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| 14:10.04 | nikomo | Isn't md from mdadm aka software RAID |
| 14:10.42 | kombi | true |
| 14:10.45 | nikomo | Pretty sure GRUB has to be installed to the MBR of a drive, and it's impossible to do that with a software RAID device |
| 14:10.56 | nikomo | because the RAID doesn't exist until the kernel loads |
| 14:11.05 | kombi | i beg to differ on that one.. |
| 14:11.17 | jelly | kombi: does your md0 have whole disks as members? |
| 14:11.27 | kombi | jelly: nope |
| 14:11.39 | jelly | kombi: why would you want to install it there at all, then? |
| 14:11.55 | nikomo | The BIOS loads the initial bootcode from the MBR and that code then reads from /boot, starts the kernel up, which gets you your RAID |
| 14:12.29 | Babalau | you guys have a light theme or a dark one ? seems that the dark one might be less painfull to the eyes on the long term |
| 14:12.48 | nikomo | I just use the default theming in i3wm |
| 14:13.35 | kombi | jelly, nikomo: grub-config writes md0's uuid into grub.cfg.. |
| 14:13.48 | kombi | sorry, grub-mkconfig |
| 14:13.53 | jelly | kombi: ok. What fails? |
| 14:14.11 | nikomo | grub.cfg is read by GRUB, which is started by the code that is at the MBR of the drive you're booting from |
| 14:14.28 | nikomo | you're trying to eat chicken and rice before the first egg even exists |
| 14:14.41 | kombi | grub-setup complains about being installed into a partition |
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| 14:14.49 | kombi | nikomo: ;) nice one.. |
| 14:15.24 | jelly | kombi: run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and choose to install it only onto the whole physical disk devices, not md0 |
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| 14:15.30 | nikomo | I'll Google around a bit, maybe they added some sort of magical support in a later version that I haven't run into yet |
| 14:15.59 | kombi | so if I grub-setup into say sda and sdb, would the box boot? (it is only some 1000 miles away).. |
| 14:16.11 | nikomo | yeah |
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| 14:16.30 | nikomo | If you have 2 drives only in the system and you grub-setup to both the drives |
| 14:16.35 | kombi | sigh...;) (orbiting 'round the earth) |
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| 14:16.50 | nikomo | it won't matter even if boot order is wrong in BIOS, it'll hit either GRUB installation and boot |
| 14:16.56 | kombi | nikomo: that's what I do then |
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| 14:19.33 | kombi | nikomo: I just wonder why the debian installer tries to do otherwise... |
| 14:19.56 | malcom2073 | Hey, I installed Debian 7.4.0 i386 and AMD64 in two Virtualbox VM's on my machine. all default options, for some reason the amd64 one boots to UI, but the i386 one boots to command line, any thoughts on why/how to figure that out? Is that sort of thing going to happen on a hardware PC too? |
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| 14:20.29 | nikomo | Probably accidentally disabled the desktop environment role during installation for the i386 VM |
| 14:20.54 | malcom2073 | nikomo: Just reinstalled for a second time, desktop environment and system utlilities are both selected. |
| 14:20.57 | malcom2073 | same as the amd64 was |
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| 14:21.17 | nikomo | Try startx and see if that brings up a GUI |
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| 14:21.40 | malcom2073 | Nope, it changes the resolution, and pops me out to a terminal with a different font |
| 14:22.02 | malcom2073 | Oh no, it does |
| 14:22.05 | malcom2073 | xeyes shows up overtop of the terminal |
| 14:22.06 | nikomo | I haven't done a 32-bit installation after 32-bit became irrelevant (so, 2006-2007 I think), so idk |
| 14:22.25 | malcom2073 | So the desktop environment isn't being installed. I'll try unchecking it... maybe someone stuck a ! in there somewhere heh |
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| 14:31.09 | Babalau | how can i run sudo Graphically .... as in with an X server ? |
| 14:31.24 | ksk | Babalau: "gksudo" for example |
| 14:31.44 | ksk | eg "gksudo amdcccle" to run some graphical app with root privileges |
| 14:32.08 | ksk | make sure to not run an app as root "just because" as its a huge security problem |
| 14:32.19 | Babalau | gksudo command not found |
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| 14:34.33 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:34.55 | snoooop | In ubuntu they have a special image for mac, are there any such image in debian ? have difficulties to know what image I should use |
| 14:34.57 | wols | Babalau: or "sux". and if you can't find a program: install it |
| 14:34.58 | snoooop | ? |
| 14:35.09 | wols | Babalau: sux is a bit "smaller", gksudo is for gnome |
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| 14:35.22 | Babalau | aha |
| 14:35.22 | wols | snoooop: debian doesn't |
| 14:35.27 | Babalau | im on kde |
| 14:35.33 | wols | Babalau: kdesu then |
| 14:35.39 | Babalau | ty |
| 14:35.50 | Babalau | kdesudo |
| 14:35.51 | Babalau | ) |
| 14:36.00 | themill | (kdesu isn't on $PATH but the run dialogue will find it) |
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| 14:37.56 | snoooop | wols, thanks |
| 14:38.00 | snoooop | what image should I use for a 2010 macbook you think? the "stable" ? |
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| 14:38.57 | petn-randall | snoooop: Yes. |
| 14:39.16 | snoooop | I get to this long list but hat is the difference between the except the desktop ? |
| 14:39.20 | snoooop | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 14:39.51 | malcom2073 | Ok new question: dpkg -i mydebfile.deb lists all the missing dependancies. Google says to go apt-get -f install to install them, but apt-get -f install just removes my package which has missing dependancies rather than installing the dependancies. Is there any way to auto-install them rather than having to type each in one by one? |
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| 14:41.05 | petn-randall | snoooop: Just use the netinstaller if you have internet access during installation. |
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| 14:41.37 | petn-randall | malcom2073: I'm guessing that the package has unsatisfiable dependencies. |
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| 14:42.23 | malcom2073 | petn-randall: Oh, I guess i'll have to go through one by one and try to install them to see which one it is, none of them say they're uninstallable, just that they're noit installed |
| 14:43.02 | andry | what do you want to install? maybe you just need to add i386 |
| 14:43.11 | malcom2073 | It's amd64 |
| 14:43.16 | jhutchins_wk | malcom2073: Try aptitude -f install instead. It may offer you more options. |
| 14:43.22 | snoooop | I want the xfce desktop so should I select the "debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso " then ? Or is there another image/desktop environment better suited for my hardware ? |
| 14:43.28 | jhutchins_wk | malcom2073: Do you have contrib and non-free enabled? |
| 14:43.35 | malcom2073 | Ah there is a pacakge without an installation candidate |
| 14:43.41 | malcom2073 | thanks petn-randall,I 'll solve that :) |
| 14:43.44 | malcom2073 | jhutchins_wk: Yes. |
| 14:43.47 | snoooop | petn-randall, I don't have internet access |
| 14:43.47 | flixh | I'm at a loss using gdb with fairly complex C code.The adresses reported by gdb for arguments to functions are completely off. Anybody aware of any recent problems in Debian testing? |
| 14:44.56 | petn-randall | snoooop: Then you'll need all DVDs. |
| 14:45.18 | petn-randall | flixh: jessie/sid are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 14:48.06 | flixh | petn-randall: ok, will go there. Just need to find a webchat for oftc that goes past our stupid firewall. thanks. |
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| 14:48.56 | babilen | flixh: http://www.oftc.net/WebChat/ |
| 14:49.15 | snoooop | petn-randall, that was bad news, maybe I will try the net install anyway... |
| 14:49.46 | flixh | babilen: won't work as they need ports that aren't open |
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| 14:52.35 | kombi | nikimo, Jelly: :) |
| 14:53.02 | kombi | (box in outer space did reboot..;) |
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| 14:54.09 | jelly | kombi: now ask the datacenter monkeys to unplug /dev/sda and try to reboot again |
| 14:55.36 | kombi | jelly: no monkeys live there but I'm quite sure it would do |
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| 15:02.38 | pjz | is dpkg --get-selections "*:all"|grep -v deinstall >dpkg-get-selections.cp.00.all |
| 15:02.41 | pjz | ack |
| 15:02.48 | pjz | wrong paste |
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| 15:03.06 | pjz | is http://www.ewan.cc/?q=node/90 still the recommended crossgrade i386->amd64 procedure? |
| 15:03.26 | wols | pjz: there is no "crossgrade" in any way shape or form. reinstall |
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| 15:05.14 | pjz | wols: actually, https://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit points to it |
| 15:06.31 | pjz | wols: the box is colocated halfway across the country, so 'reinstall' isn't really an option. |
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| 15:08.22 | jelly | pjz: what do you need from amd64 that doesn't work on i386 userspace? |
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| 15:08.39 | pjz | jelly: docker.io |
| 15:08.52 | pjz | jelly: and thanks for asking a reasonable question! |
| 15:09.05 | sadon | hi how do i open tcp port 49152 for 10.8.0.22? |
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| 15:10.19 | sadon | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 49152 -j DNAT --to 10.8.10.22 |
| 15:10.23 | sadon | does not work? |
| 15:10.44 | pjz | sadon: your question is insufficiently specified. |
| 15:10.51 | sadon | hi how do i open tcp port 49152 for 10.8.0.22? |
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| 15:11.05 | sadon | pjz what do you need to know? |
| 15:11.13 | pjz | sadon: open the port from where to that IP? |
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| 15:11.27 | jelly | pjz: eh, I'd probably just boot a 64bit kernel and use an ubuntu chroot, since docker seems to support ubuntu better |
| 15:11.28 | pjz | sadon: is this on a router or a host? |
| 15:11.56 | jelly | pjz: until the time to migrate to a proper 64bit machine |
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| 15:12.16 | pjz | jelly: well, sure, but it's a server halway across the country and it's got some services running on it already that I'd like to keep going... I actually want to convert them over to run in docker eventually, which is the point of getting docker installed |
| 15:12.23 | sadon | pjz: from my VPS |
| 15:12.43 | sadon | I want my VPS user to allow tcp 49152. his ip 10.8.10.22 |
| 15:12.52 | jelly | sadon: is 10.8.10.22 a local IP address? Does the machine have ip_forward enabled? |
| 15:12.55 | sadon | now it says |
| 15:12.56 | sadon | 49152 (?) : Connection refused |
| 15:13.05 | sadon | jelly: yes |
| 15:13.25 | jelly | sadon: can you telnet 10.8.10.22 49152 manually from the host? |
| 15:13.26 | sadon | i guess all ports are blocked for security reasons. |
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| 15:13.57 | jhutchins_wk | sadon: There must be some kind of server listening on that port. You need both port and protocol to communicate. |
| 15:14.13 | sadon | jelly: yes it says (UNKNOWN) [10.8.0.26] 49152 (?) open |
| 15:14.17 | TJ- | pjz: Is there any spare disk space? You could install a compatible 64-bit user-space into a new rootfs block device (lvm maybe) via chroot, then add a boot entry for it |
| 15:14.57 | sadon | jhutchins_wk: what should i do bro? |
| 15:15.04 | pjz | TJ-: yeah... I've got 96G free, 88G used |
| 15:15.14 | jelly | sadon: that does not look like output from telnet! |
| 15:15.25 | jelly | it looks more like nmap |
| 15:15.35 | sadon | jelly: what should i do? |
| 15:15.46 | jelly | sadon: and 10.8.0.26 is not 10.8.10.22 |
| 15:15.55 | sadon | sorry |
| 15:16.04 | sadon | 10.8.0.26 |
| 15:16.06 | sadon | should it be |
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| 15:16.21 | jhutchins_wk | sadon: What kind of service are you trying to set up? |
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| 15:16.42 | TJ- | pjz: It's easier to use a chroot to do a parallel install. Stage 1: install a 64-bit kernel but use the existing 32-bit userspace. Stage 2) Use a chroot to install the 64-bit userspace into a new block device. Stage 3) Copy the 32-bit userspace package selections, and configs, to the 64-bit userspace. Stage 4) Edit the boot menu. Stage 5) Reboot and hope :p |
| 15:16.52 | sadon | jhutchins_wk: nevermind i want 49152 to be open tcp |
| 15:17.17 | pjz | TJ-: hrm, I was hoping the new multiarch stuff would help out here |
| 15:17.33 | jhutchins_wk | pjz: It doesn't work that way. |
| 15:17.43 | pjz | yeah, multiarch is just for libs, I know. |
| 15:17.45 | jhutchins_wk | sadon: There is no such thing. |
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| 15:17.58 | TJ- | pjz: multiarch depends on which arch is considered 'foreign' |
| 15:18.13 | jhutchins_wk | sadon: Some kind of service has to be listening on that port. |
| 15:18.21 | jelly | sadon: right. Now, does "telnet 10.8.0.26 49152" from the host work? |
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| 15:19.09 | pjz | TJ-: howso? |
| 15:19.21 | sadon | jelly: Connected to |
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| 15:20.07 | sadon | Escape character is '^]'. |
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| 15:20.39 | TJ- | pjz: As jhutchins_wk said, it doesn't work that way. In other words, you can't pivot a 32-bit userspace into 64-bit userspace in the same rootfs (since there are no arch-specific /bin/ directories) |
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| 15:21.08 | sadon | jelly: hm i tried to telnet to the IP and i says: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
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| 15:21.41 | jelly | sadon: good. Type Control-] and q and Enter to exit, and after that pastebin your iptables-save output to confirm sanity of the NAT rule |
| 15:21.46 | jelly | !paste |
| 15:21.46 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 15:21.57 | pjz | TJ-: I wish there was a way to fatelf my userland |
| 15:22.03 | sadon | where do i find the iptables-save output? |
| 15:22.15 | jelly | sadon: to have to use the port number with telnet when testing |
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| 15:22.25 | jelly | sadon: run that command... |
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| 15:24.40 | sadon | and after that pastebin your iptables-save output to confirm sanity of the NAT rule |
| 15:24.44 | sadon | where do i find this? |
| 15:25.26 | jelly | sadon: dude, run "iptables-save" as root, put that output on a pastebin web site |
| 15:25.53 | sadon | ok |
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| 15:28.05 | sadon | jelly: you got it? |
| 15:28.19 | babilen | sadon: Do you have a link? |
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| 15:29.33 | sadon | babilen yes |
| 15:29.48 | sadon | http://pastebin.com/Gxvtq84Q |
| 15:29.52 | babilen | ... |
| 15:29.57 | babilen | dpkg: pastebin.com |
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| 15:29.57 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 15:30.02 | babilen | (for next time) |
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| 15:30.13 | sadon | ok |
| 15:31.07 | jelly | ,v ufw |
| 15:31.09 | judd | Package: ufw on i386 -- squeeze: 0.29.3-1; wheezy: 0.31.1-2; jessie: 0.33-2; sid: 0.33-2 |
| 15:31.38 | jelly | sadon: can you switch that ufw thing off and test again? |
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| 15:32.02 | sadon | how do i do that? |
| 15:32.15 | sadon | jelly |
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| 15:33.14 | jelly | sadon: I don't use it. You installed it, I hoped you know how it gets started and stopped |
| 15:33.33 | jelly | (ufw is not default on Debian) |
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| 15:33.51 | sadon | jelly: its there because of security reasons. |
| 15:33.53 | LucidGuy | How long is a stable release supported (wheezy)? As in how long do the developers provide update security patches etc? |
| 15:34.14 | daemonkeeper | LucidGuy: Until next release + 1 year. |
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| 15:34.29 | daemonkeeper | So roughly April 2016 I'd guess. |
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| 15:35.18 | LucidGuy | But wheezy has been out since 2013-05 .. |
| 15:35.47 | daemonkeeper | LucidGuy: Point being is the release date of the _next_ release (Jessie) |
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| 15:35.57 | daemonkeeper | As soon as that one's out, the clock starts ticking. |
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| 15:36.11 | Aut0Exec | hi guys.... i have a noob question... but i dont want to start a flamewar here ... whats the benefit of using debian vs centos? |
| 15:36.25 | Aut0Exec | for server |
| 15:36.32 | LucidGuy | So wheezy is almost done .. yet you said 2016 |
| 15:36.57 | daemonkeeper | LucidGuy: Jessie is probably to be released in April 2015 (+/- a few months). |
| 15:37.06 | daemonkeeper | LucidGuy: So Jessie release data + 1 year. |
| 15:37.11 | daemonkeeper | *date |
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| 15:37.52 | LucidGuy | Understood, so not much of a long term support is it. |
| 15:38.06 | daemonkeeper | In total it's very much 3 years. |
| 15:38.16 | sadon | what should i do? jely? |
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| 15:38.22 | daemonkeeper | Starting with the release date. |
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| 15:39.04 | jelly | sadon: you're testing firewall rules. It makes sense to disable your current firewall (ufw) first and try your rules ONLY |
| 15:39.25 | sadon | jelly: can you please help me out? |
| 15:39.34 | Aut0Exec | anyone have an answer for me? |
| 15:40.02 | daemonkeeper | Aut0Exec: Maybe start by elaborating why you care. Different people have different preferences. |
| 15:40.22 | Aut0Exec | daemonkeeper: well i only care about having the latest version and security updates |
| 15:40.24 | jelly | sadon: I absolutely refuse to spoon feed you the way to disable UFW, figure that out by yourself, then we'll talk. |
| 15:40.29 | LucidGuy | Hate to say it, but I don't see where you get the third year. Wheezy 2013-05-04, one year later is 2014-05? Why is it still the stable version? |
| 15:40.35 | Aut0Exec | daemonkeeper: i guess debian would be best for me? |
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| 15:40.48 | jelly | LucidGuy: because jessie is not out yet |
| 15:40.51 | daemonkeeper | If you ask me of course. But I'm sadly not everyone else. |
| 15:41.02 | LucidGuy | So Jessie is delayed? |
| 15:41.06 | daemonkeeper | LucidGuy: No |
| 15:41.12 | btrr | what's best way to make debian look like windows2000 / win95 |
| 15:41.15 | jelly | LucidGuy: it's not releases. There's no set date. |
| 15:41.20 | sadon | jelly: why should i disable UFW? it should not be nessacary? i make it worked before, but i forget how to do that |
| 15:41.34 | jelly | sadon: to test your NAT rules on their own. |
| 15:41.44 | sadon | any command? |
| 15:41.55 | andry | btrr, use a lightweight DE, xfce has some win2k-like themes |
| 15:42.04 | sadon | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 49152 -j DNAT --to 10.8.0.26 |
| 15:42.09 | sadon | should this work? |
| 15:42.15 | sadon | I tried it, but it didnt helped |
| 15:42.28 | andry | it depends so much on your configuration, sadon |
| 15:42.41 | sadon | andry: hm, tell me bro. i could pastebin my conf |
| 15:43.02 | sadon | 49152 (?) : Connection refused |
| 15:43.02 | btrr | andry, yes i was looking for some, but didnt found great one. there were some themes for xfce and lxde, and plain icewm. |
| 15:43.35 | Aut0Exec | you guys use debian for server or desktop? |
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| 15:43.47 | daemonkeeper | Both. |
| 15:43.51 | Aut0Exec | daemonkeeper: ah ok |
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| 15:43.57 | Aut0Exec | nice |
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| 15:45.16 | daemonkeeper | LucidGuy: See https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases for the average total life time of a release. |
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| 15:45.56 | sadon | jelly: do you know what i should do? |
| 15:45.59 | sadon | i am stucked |
| 15:46.01 | crickett | hello |
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| 15:46.16 | andry | hmm, btrr, there WAS a very win2k like xfce window theme, i cant find it now |
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| 15:46.44 | jelly | sadon: I don't know what else to add. Disable your current firewall and test your custom rules separately, see if they work that way. |
| 15:46.58 | Aut0Exec | daemonkeeper: does linux provide all of your desktop needs or sometimes do you need to start up a windows vm? |
| 15:47.02 | Aut0Exec | jelly: hey bud... remember me? |
| 15:47.08 | jelly | nope! :-D |
| 15:47.09 | sadon | jelly : how do i disable it? |
| 15:47.16 | daemonkeeper | Aut0Exec: I dod not use Windows since ... uhm Windows 98 times? |
| 15:47.17 | Aut0Exec | jelly: :( |
| 15:47.17 | sadon | you know? |
| 15:47.18 | daemonkeeper | *did |
| 15:47.20 | crickett | i just installed wheezy onto my computer and it wont let me access wifi the ethernet cable i can get access to but not for long periods of time |
| 15:47.25 | jelly | sadon: I don't use ufw. |
| 15:47.26 | Aut0Exec | daemonkeeper: lol really? |
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| 15:47.28 | xelan | Hey guys, I'm looking for a FHD laptop which is fully supported by linux. When using google I'm always ending up with the Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition. What's your oppinion about that one? |
| 15:47.29 | daemonkeeper | Really |
| 15:47.33 | Aut0Exec | wowzers |
| 15:47.34 | daemonkeeper | Aut0Exec: But then again, I'm not everyone. Other people have different needs. |
| 15:47.41 | Aut0Exec | why noot? |
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| 15:47.54 | Aut0Exec | never had the need? |
| 15:47.56 | daemonkeeper | Quite frankly, I'm far more limited on Windows than on Linux. |
| 15:48.04 | Aut0Exec | ok |
| 15:48.06 | daemonkeeper | For what I need and use. |
| 15:48.11 | Aut0Exec | dev huh? |
| 15:48.16 | daemonkeeper | network engineer. |
| 15:48.18 | Aut0Exec | ok |
| 15:48.21 | ctmjr | dpkg: tell Aut0Exec about why debian |
| 15:48.42 | Aut0Exec | ctmjr: ok thanks |
| 15:48.54 | sadon | jelly: i dont need to disable my firewall to make port enabled |
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| 15:49.24 | crickett | i just installed wheezy onto my computer and it wont let me access wifi the ethernet cable i can get access to but not for long periods of time anyone have any ideas as to why? |
| 15:49.54 | SynrG | crickett: probably missing firmware |
| 15:50.08 | SynrG | crickett: please show us the output of: lspci -nn | grep -i network |
| 15:50.54 | jelly | sadon: that is correct. |
| 15:51.00 | sadon | so.. |
| 15:51.09 | crickett | will do ill have to switch over to it using ubuntu at the moment so i have some type of internet to figure out the issue |
| 15:51.12 | sadon | how do i open iptables-rules? |
| 15:51.19 | crickett | but will do brb |
| 15:51.38 | jelly | sadon: however, it's a sane step to try and exclude any interaction between your rules, and those that already exist. |
| 15:51.51 | SynrG | crickett: if it's difficult, i am principally interested in the pciid, which is the [####:####] near the end of that line |
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| 15:52.03 | sadon | what should i do? |
| 15:52.08 | sadon | you maybe dont know? |
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| 15:52.20 | Aut0Exec | lol lspci... command not found |
| 15:52.24 | Aut0Exec | wow |
| 15:52.26 | Aut0Exec | really? |
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| 15:52.55 | SynrG | apt-get install pciutils |
| 15:53.00 | jelly | sadon: reverse psychology doesn't work here |
| 15:53.01 | Aut0Exec | AH OK |
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| 15:53.14 | Aut0Exec | pciutils i was missing |
| 15:53.18 | SynrG | Aut0Exec: sounds like you didn't install the standard task? |
| 15:53.34 | SynrG | it is Priority: standard, so in most fresh installs should be there |
| 15:53.41 | Aut0Exec | SynrG: server in VPS |
| 15:53.46 | Aut0Exec | so doesnt really matter |
| 15:53.50 | Aut0Exec | tbh |
| 15:53.57 | sadon | jelly: i ask you. do you know what i should do or not? |
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| 15:54.04 | sadon | simple question |
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| 15:54.32 | sadon | if you know please help me |
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| 15:55.06 | jelly | sadon: I've already told you what I would do next. |
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| 15:55.19 | jelly | sadon: I don't have anything else to add. |
| 15:55.21 | sadon | what? |
| 15:55.39 | crickett | how do i get to the pci id still kinda new to linux |
| 15:55.49 | drwahl | crickett: lspci |
| 15:55.50 | wols | crickett: lspci -nn |
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| 15:56.31 | SynrG | sadon: as a means of testing that your firewall isn't screwing it up for you somehow: disable the firewall and test the rule in isolation. once you get that working, if you want to add it to your firewall, then at least you know your rule works. |
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| 15:56.54 | crickett | do i have to be on debian to do it or it doesnt matter? |
| 15:57.07 | SynrG | sadon: but you resisted the idea that this would help. if you don't think that's helpful, that's all jelly has to offer. got it? |
| 15:57.20 | andry | sees jelly going mad |
| 15:57.25 | SynrG | sadon: and no, i don't know ufw either. so i can't help |
| 15:58.35 | SynrG | crickett: you don't |
| 15:58.44 | SynrG | crickett: just as i said: lspci -nn | grep -i network |
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| 15:59.40 | SynrG | bbiaf. off to coffee break |
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| 16:00.40 | Babalau | can Anyone can tip me on a good font for KDE4 ? DejaVu Sans doesn't quite cut it for me :) |
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| 16:01.14 | crickett | synrg do you want me to send in private? |
| 16:01.29 | jelly | Babalau: enable hinting (either full or medium), disable subpixel rendering, and _then_ choose fonts. |
| 16:02.06 | SynrG | crickett: paste here to the channel please. we're all equally capable of helping (well, some more or less than others :) |
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| 16:02.34 | Babalau | jelly: thx for the point |
| 16:02.38 | Babalau | tip* |
| 16:02.39 | Babalau | :) |
| 16:02.47 | SynrG | crickett: we're smarter as a group and tend to not prefer helping in PM |
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| 16:04.21 | crickett | 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:8179] (rev 01) |
| 16:04.34 | Konomi | - |
| 16:04.36 | SynrG | ,pciid [10ec:8179] |
| 16:04.37 | judd | [10ec:8179] is 'RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with no known kernel module in wheezy but has kernel module 'rtl8188ee' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8179 |
| 16:04.49 | SynrG | crickett: ahh. bad luck ... |
| 16:04.53 | SynrG | let me check further |
| 16:05.00 | SynrG | ,pccid [10ec:8179] --release testing |
| 16:05.04 | crickett | i dont like the sound of that |
| 16:05.12 | SynrG | ,pccid [10ec:8179] --release jessie |
| 16:05.20 | SynrG | argh. typoed, twice :) |
| 16:05.25 | SynrG | ,pciid [10ec:8179] --release testing |
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| 16:06.29 | SynrG | so now judd hates me and is ignoring me for 10 minutes, *claiming* i gave it 5 invalid commands in the last minute (i did not. i only gave it 3) |
| 16:06.54 | mtn | ,pciid [10ec:8179] --release testing |
| 16:06.55 | judd | [10ec:8179] is 'RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'rtl8188ee' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8179 |
| 16:07.19 | SynrG | mtn: thanks |
| 16:07.26 | mtn | SynrG: :) |
| 16:07.44 | SynrG | crickett: so the good news is a backport kernel may be for you |
| 16:07.57 | SynrG | dpkg: tell crickett about bpo kernel |
| 16:08.24 | SynrG | dpkg: tell crickett about wheezy-backports |
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| 16:09.24 | SynrG | crickett: so just do the things dpkg bot instructed about to install a backports kernel. |
| 16:09.41 | SynrG | crickett: that should support your wifi chipset |
| 16:09.53 | crickett | kk thanks alot |
| 16:10.01 | Togusa | anyone using intel hd graphics 4000 (module i915) with kernel 3.11+? graphics acceleration is no longer working, both in ubuntu and in debian |
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| 16:10.12 | SynrG | crickett: might make ethernet work better, too. you said it's flaky? |
| 16:10.53 | SynrG | crickett: i hope it's working well enough to install the stuff you need |
| 16:11.02 | SynrG | there are ways around that if not. ask here |
| 16:11.12 | crickett | no im deployed in kuwait at the moment and getting access to one i gotta ask the uso people |
| 16:11.24 | andry | i wonder if there is a way to tell the debian installer to use a different kernel for the installation .. |
| 16:11.32 | SynrG | crickett: ahh. if that's difficult, you could download the necessary packages on your ubuntu system |
| 16:11.41 | SynrG | crickett: then install with dpkg -i on debian |
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| 16:12.17 | crickett | and i can do that through a flash drive? |
| 16:12.27 | SynrG | yeah |
| 16:12.38 | crickett | any certain format i have to have it in? |
| 16:12.57 | SynrG | !apt-offline |
| 16:12.57 | dpkg | To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read http://batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html . Ask me about <apt-zip>, <apt-walkabout>. |
| 16:13.00 | SynrG | ^^ this might help |
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| 16:14.12 | syeekick | how would i complile something like linssid? |
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| 16:14.39 | crickett | alrighty thanks alot hopefully next time im on itll be from debian |
| 16:15.09 | SynrG | crickett: hmm, apt-offline is slightly complicated by the fact you probably don't have the backports sources listed in your current /etc/apt/sources.list, so the preparation step would fail |
| 16:15.21 | mtn | andry: acceleration shouldn't make any difference during the installation |
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| 16:16.01 | andry | sorry, was just thinking about this loud .. not refering to any problem |
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| 16:16.10 | crickett | ill just add the site on ubutnu or do i have to do it through debian? |
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| 16:16.40 | SynrG | crickett: no, that's distro mixing and would be disastrous |
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| 16:17.21 | SynrG | crickett: amd64 or i386 architecture? |
| 16:17.29 | crickett | amd 64 |
| 16:19.08 | SynrG | crickett: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/amd64/linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64/download |
| 16:19.22 | SynrG | crickett: choose an appropriate mirror to get the deb from there |
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| 16:20.28 | crickett | its downloading |
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| 16:20.43 | SynrG | great. |
| 16:21.10 | SynrG | any other special hardware needs for this system? non-free firmware for other devices? |
| 16:21.42 | SynrG | if so, you would also potentially want updated firmware packages from backports too |
| 16:21.58 | crickett | so far im not tracking anything yet been more worried about the wifi at the moment |
| 16:22.05 | SynrG | and i'm not 100% sure there aren't additional deps for the bpo kernel ... |
| 16:22.34 | crickett | everything else ive been toying around with been seem to work fine except the wireless |
| 16:23.34 | somiaj | They should be listed on the page you linked, just follow them. I think you need intramfs-tools from backports too. If you mouse over the link you can see if it is form wheezy or wheezy-backports |
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| 16:28.05 | SynrG | ,v initramfs-tools |
| 16:28.06 | judd | Package: initramfs-tools on i386 -- squeeze: 0.98.8; squeeze-backports: 0.109.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.109.1; wheezy-backports: 0.115~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.115; sid: 0.115 |
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| 16:28.28 | SynrG | crickett: yes, you *do* need the backports initramfs-tools too |
| 16:28.40 | SynrG | that page lists: dep: initramfs-tools (>= 0.110~) |
| 16:28.51 | SynrG | and judd's output above shows wheezy only has 0.109.1 |
| 16:29.57 | SynrG | the rest are all more relaxed dependencies that afaics should be resolvable in wheezy. if i knew the right question to ask judd it might tell me for certain :) |
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| 16:30.49 | crickett | your a great help already already got me on the right road lol |
| 16:31.05 | SynrG | good :) |
| 16:31.22 | SynrG | crickett: worst case, we forgot something, dpkg -i will complain saying exactly what ... and you can reboot to ubuntu to go fetch it |
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| 16:33.20 | doebi | u guys know any good tools to display battery usage/cpu time of processes? to identify the most critical porcesses? |
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| 16:34.34 | pjz | kay, so I I booted my i386 system into an amd64 kernel, and it all still works with the i386 userland, that's good. |
| 16:34.42 | wols | nothing to display battery usage per process. top shows the cpu time used |
| 16:34.50 | wols | and powertop can help you save battery |
| 16:35.16 | wols | pjz: you can do that for years now |
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| 16:36.07 | kim__ | is there a ppa for the latest stable kernel for debian 7? |
| 16:36.17 | waqstar | is there a way to list files on a web page, while in directory listing, with curl etc? |
| 16:36.18 | abrotman | Debian does not have PPAs |
| 16:36.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell kim__ about backports |
| 16:36.24 | colo-work | no. use the backports kernel. |
| 16:36.26 | pjz | wols: right, so I also just as a test did 'apt-get install bc:amd64' |
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| 16:36.36 | waqstar | or use a wildcard in URL? |
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| 16:36.47 | pjz | wols: ...which worked okay |
| 16:36.56 | andry | maybe a bit off topic, but: does anyone know a zelda (snes version) like game made for linux? ;P |
| 16:37.25 | abrotman | andry: there are websites like happypenguin that catalog games |
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| 16:37.44 | andry | merci |
| 16:37.44 | pjz | wols: why wouldn't doing the same thing for all the other i386 packages on the system work? |
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| 16:38.18 | colo-work | andatche, there is, I have just forgotten its name :/ dammit |
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| 16:39.20 | kim__ | how do I activate the backports? |
| 16:39.55 | SynrG | !tell kim__ about wheezy-backports |
| 16:40.06 | SynrG | !tell kim__ about bpo kernel |
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| 16:41.47 | crickett | sorry my mifi died |
| 16:43.17 | SynrG | crickett: didn't miss anything i think. my last observation was that worst case if you got the two deb files there and installed with dpkg -i, it would give informative error messages about whatever else we missed, which you could fetch from ubuntu. |
| 16:43.44 | crickett | ok that was the last message i got lol |
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| 16:48.10 | crickett | so i just put these on the thumbdrive and run the command cause that sounds a little to easy |
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| 16:51.19 | SynrG | crickett: if you live right ... i guess it will go well :) |
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| 16:52.01 | crickett | kk i got the initrams tools and the file you sent me |
| 16:52.08 | crickett | im gonna go try |
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| 16:55.23 | melt7777 | tried asking dpkg. fresh jessie netinst, main contrib non-free repos, upgraded, installed xorg, headers, build-essential, fluxbox, nodm, rebooted fine, cannot install vmware tools. chose yes to auto kern modules and no to shared folders, still doesn't work, running /usr/bin/vmware-user gives vmware-user: could not open /proc/fs/vmblock/dev |
| 16:55.43 | melt7777 | google couldnt find anything to try to diagnose this |
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| 16:56.41 | somiaj | melt7777: I'm assuing this is not a debian package, but you are installing vmware from their tools? |
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| 16:57.15 | melt7777 | yes using vmware workstation 10, the same gzipped installer that i was able to install on wheezy and wheezy-backports |
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| 16:57.50 | pjz | melt7777: jessie != wheezy |
| 16:58.14 | pjz | melt7777: lots of changes there; no telling what vmware is dpeending on that has changed |
| 16:58.15 | somiaj | melt7777: First not really a support question for us, as it is not our software. That being said, there are differences between jessie and wheezy and software designed to run on wheezy may not install in jessie as you are seeing. Do they provide any other install media that might work on jessie? |
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| 17:00.13 | pjz | so if I have a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel, can I just do 'for f in `dpkg --get-selections "*:i386" | cut -f 1 -d' ' ` ; do apt-get install $f:amd64 ; done to switch userland from 32-bit to 64-bit? if not, why not? |
| 17:00.25 | melt7777 | not that i could find |
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| 17:01.17 | melt7777 | been looking all morning |
| 17:01.32 | melt7777 | i did see some openvm packages but i dont think that's what i wanted |
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| 17:02.30 | SynrG | pjz: crossgrading is a hot topic. all the cool kids are doing it |
| 17:02.46 | SynrG | pjz: comb the planet.debian.org blogs for the past several months for several people's approaches |
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| 17:03.12 | SynrG | pjz: and no, there's considerably more to it than that :) |
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| 17:04.31 | SynrG | pjz: just a word of caution. there really isn't a supported way. hardhats required. |
| 17:04.48 | wols_ | melt7777: the compile of the kernel module gives an error usually |
| 17:05.50 | sadon | how do i FLUSH changes in /etc/ufw/before.rules? |
| 17:06.13 | melt7777 | wols no kmod errors but it did say that i should install sysv-rc |
| 17:06.13 | somiaj | pjz: I can think lost of little things that would get in the way. First is the core arch dpkg thinks it is (that would have to be changed and there is no supported way to do that I know of). Second would be lots of multi-arch issues/limitations. Though most libs are now multiarch, binaries are not, and replacing a i368 with amd64 binary may have consequences due to dependencies and the like. |
| 17:07.33 | wols_ | melt7777: that means it has some script it wants to run. look at it what it does. |
| 17:07.54 | pjz | somiaj: well, it worked for one binary - I did 'apt-get install bc:amd64' and it did the right thing, including installing necesary :amd64 libraries |
| 17:08.31 | somiaj | pjz: and how many packages do you have installed? (: |
| 17:08.41 | pjz | SynrG: right, I'm okaywith hardhatds, I've been doing this for awhile, I'm just looking for someone else with a hardhat to confer with :) |
| 17:09.11 | pjz | somiaj: only 944 more i386 packages left installed! |
| 17:09.36 | somiaj | pjz: If you don't want to go though the reinstall process but have an extra partition you can put a root file system on. I would suggest deboostrap + chroot, install your amd64 install there, /msg dpkg clone, and then install the same package list (minus arch) inside the amd64 chroot, make it bootable and reboot. |
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| 17:10.01 | somiaj | pjz: but yes, it could be a fun adventure. (: |
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| 17:11.17 | somiaj | pjz: sorry it is /msg dpkg debian clone |
| 17:11.23 | pjz | somiaj: why chroot? what's going to stumble? |
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| 17:11.35 | SynrG | pjz: which release? |
| 17:11.35 | pjz | somiaj: I mean, the kernel will run both kinds of apps |
| 17:11.41 | pjz | SynrG: wheezy |
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| 17:12.16 | SynrG | nudges themill |
| 17:12.40 | somiaj | pjz: That is just my suggestion. I don't know what would stumble, but I personally would want the arch set to amd64 from the start and make sure no artifacts are laying around. |
| 17:12.56 | SynrG | pjz: this is themill's approach: http://nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/crossgrading |
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| 17:14.05 | justaguy | Is it possible to update from debian 7 to jessie ? |
| 17:14.12 | justaguy | also: is it recommended |
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| 17:14.37 | pjz | SynrG: ah, thanks |
| 17:14.40 | SynrG | justaguy: possible? yes. recommended? well: |
| 17:14.42 | SynrG | !sns |
| 17:14.42 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 17:16.01 | somiaj | justaguy: I would look into wheezy-backports before thinking about upgrading to jessie (unless well you like the fun of a changing system which brings new bugs your way during upgrades) |
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| 17:20.15 | justaguy | well my apt-get is stuck on [Waiting for headers] @ whatever i do so won't be able to upgrade |
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| 17:23.41 | musca | justaguy: most likely not your mirrors fault, but instead bug #624122 |
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| 17:24.48 | musca | justaguy: hmm, no, better try to change your mirror. |
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| 17:25.14 | SynrG | justaguy: if you're upgrading to testing, see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
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| 17:25.47 | justaguy | SynrG: the waiting on headers problem is a problem that is frustrating me for 2 days on various machines |
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| 17:26.04 | justaguy | might just be my internet connection @ school that is pure crap, idk |
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| 17:28.22 | justaguy | SynrG: also: those channels are +b so i can't join |
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| 17:29.09 | Nik05 | justaguy #debian-next in OFTC |
| 17:29.26 | justaguy | Nik05: * #debian-next: Cannot join channel (+b) |
| 17:29.39 | Nik05 | on OFTC? |
| 17:29.52 | justaguy | Nik05: yes |
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| 17:52.37 | justaguy | Trying to get vm from debian 7 to debian jessie , apt-get being a monkey |
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| 17:53.51 | justaguy | http://i.imgur.com/hKRW4jp.png |
| 17:53.52 | justaguy | :s |
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| 17:55.28 | jhutchins_wk | justaguy: Are you registered? |
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| 17:56.19 | justaguy | jhutchins_wk: ? |
| 17:56.22 | justaguy | where? |
| 17:56.30 | jhutchins_wk | justaguy: on oftc.net |
| 17:56.38 | justaguy | jhutchins_wk: no, doing it soon |
| 17:56.58 | jhutchins_wk | justaguy: That's probably why you can't join. |
| 17:57.18 | jhutchins_wk | justaguy: Also, a detailed summary might interest those of us who don't click random images at work. |
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| 17:59.27 | jelly-home | jhutchins_wk: it's a screenshot of a partial apt-get upgrade log with only packages being downloaded shown |
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| 17:59.50 | jhutchins_wk | Well, that won't tell us much, will it? |
| 17:59.51 | jelly-home | jhutchins_wk: white background, antialiased fonts |
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| 18:00.14 | jelly-home | it's apparently in progress |
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| 18:04.36 | chrisoprase | Hi, I'm trying to change the nevigation toolbar icons on iceweasel. I asked on #firefox but they didn't know to go about it. I know in windows you just need to unpack the exe, but how can you do it on debian wheezy? |
| 18:04.53 | chrisoprase | *know how to |
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| 18:08.57 | btrr | so, any more tips how to make linux look like win2000 but with taskbar without labels (just icons) |
| 18:09.12 | btrr | one pointed me at qvwm but you cant disable labels there |
| 18:09.17 | btrr | oh! |
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| 18:09.28 | btrr | and also i need that taskbar items are combined |
| 18:09.38 | btrr | as i often have 500+ notepads |
| 18:10.13 | abrotman | btrr: use icewm or xpde |
| 18:10.49 | chrisoprase | btrr: I know tails has a believable camouflage as windwos xp, you could check how they do it |
| 18:10.50 | btrr | abrotman, y, this one uses icewm and looks nice: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/projects/lookalike-windows-xp-classic/ |
| 18:11.13 | btrr | chrisoprase, but it looked like LUNA? or like classic windows (2000, 95)? |
| 18:11.37 | btrr | as default winxp gui (luna) is very ugly.. |
| 18:11.37 | xSmurf | hey'all, say when using live-build, is it possible to add packages from other releases? I tried to add a package with /experiemental (while building a jessie image) and it crapped out |
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| 18:13.05 | chrisoprase | btrr: sorry i don't remmenber windows 2000, but I agree xp is kinda ugly |
| 18:13.37 | btrr | chrisoprase, windows 2000 is like XP when you use "classic" theme |
| 18:13.45 | btrr | similar to win95 with a bit different colors |
| 18:14.26 | btrr | i think its best GUI from every of GUI's invented, and ive seen many windows and linux |
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| 18:15.14 | chrisoprase | btrr: something like this http://imgur.com/9qFoM8I |
| 18:15.42 | doebi | powertop reports: 2.71 W 100.0% Device USB device: TouchStrip Fingerprint Sensor (UPEK) but i dont even have drivers for that device installed. i dont even use it. how can i turn it off? |
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| 18:15.58 | btrr | chrisoprase, thats how that tails can look? |
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| 18:16.02 | btrr | its luna.. its ugly |
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| 18:16.41 | Denisdatbenik | Hello, i have debian 6 and windows 7 in a dualboot, i want to upgrade to debian 7, and as always, i prefer a reinstall instead of clumsy upgrades from debian 6 to 7 , but how can i do this without wrecking my windows 7 on it? |
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| 18:17.20 | btrr | abrotman, xpde looks nice, is it stable and ready for working? or uncompleted test version? |
| 18:17.37 | abrotman | FIIK, never used it |
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| 18:17.51 | metaphysician | Are there no channel operators around in this channel on Mondays (Mar 31) at about 03:20 UTC? |
| 18:17.54 | btrr | they provide just "beta" version.. so its risky to use it |
| 18:17.58 | abrotman | metaphysician: yes, what about it? |
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| 18:18.37 | relipse | My www-data user's home dir is /var/www/ how do i find his public key? |
| 18:18.37 | octocpp | How do you escape a carrage return in a file or command line so you can put it on the next line, but it is read as part of the same line. Like word wrapping your command? |
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| 18:19.07 | metaphysician | abrotman: someone was linking imgur porn. I called ops, but no response |
| 18:19.15 | petemc | octocpp: / |
| 18:19.26 | btrr | any way to force icewm to combine taskbar items, and to not show taskbar items labels (icons only) ? |
| 18:19.26 | abrotman | metaphysician: I saw later, seems like they got it .. Not worth bringing up now. Havea good day. |
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| 18:19.41 | octocpp | petemc: wont that get confused with /dev/sdb etc? |
| 18:19.51 | petemc | octocpp: sorry, i meant \ |
| 18:19.51 | mtn | Denisdatbenik: do an install putting the new debian in the same partition that had the old debian |
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| 18:20.31 | octocpp | petemc: so I can just hit enter, and put \ in there and it will effectively be on the same line? |
| 18:20.50 | petemc | octocpp: out the \ then hit enter |
| 18:20.53 | petemc | put |
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| 18:22.34 | Denisdatbenik | mtn: ok, lets hope i don't wreck my dual boot \o/ |
| 18:23.16 | octocpp | ah, ok thanks petemc |
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| 18:27.43 | LucidGuy | Surprised Debian chose Gnome3 for their default desktop manager |
| 18:27.51 | LucidGuy | Why not KDE? |
| 18:27.56 | abrotman | Why does it matter? |
| 18:28.05 | abrotman | Just unisntall gnome, install KDE, live your life |
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| 18:29.43 | btrr | LucidGuy, KDE is not good either |
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| 18:32.14 | LucidGuy | btrr, I know, they are both heavy managers, but why Gnome3 |
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| 18:32.32 | btrr | i could ask, why kde.. same thing |
| 18:32.42 | btrr | rather should they use xfce, lxde |
| 18:33.01 | LucidGuy | Their is no right or wrong answer .. just preference, I'm aware. |
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| 18:33.03 | MrHohenheim | hello |
| 18:33.07 | btrr | or maybe they want to compete with ubuntu.. thats not good idea, i though they aim at different users |
| 18:33.20 | btrr | thought* |
| 18:33.22 | MrHohenheim | someone have experience at nodebb forum motor? |
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| 18:37.01 | balor | If you ignore the @FOO@ bits, what's wrong with this package changelog http://lpaste.net/102086 ? |
| 18:37.01 | MrHohenheim | hm |
| 18:37.08 | LucidGuy | I was expecting the old Gnome classic.. |
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| 18:39.12 | petn-randall | balor: You're trying to build for a distro that's off-topic? ;) |
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| 18:40.54 | balor | petn-randall, sorry. am building for jessie too s/saucy/jessie/ :) |
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| 18:41.15 | petn-randall | balor: What says it's wrong? |
| 18:42.00 | balor | petn-randall, dpkg-buildpackage says "parsechangelog/debian: warning: debian/changelog(l5): badly formatted heading line" |
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| 18:44.20 | jhutchins_wk | balor: you might check in #debian-mentors on oftc.net. |
| 18:44.20 | balor | solved: missing space before -- |
| 18:44.35 | petn-randall | balor: Did you create it by hand? 'dch' is a good tool to create well-formatted changelogs. |
| 18:44.37 | jhutchins_wk | balor: xlnt! |
| 18:44.44 | balor | jhutchins_wk, thanks...will join there |
| 18:45.07 | balor | is on Fedora using vagrant to gen Ubuntu & Debian packages |
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| 18:48.07 | crickett | SyrnrG: its still a no go |
| 18:48.24 | crickett | SynrG: its still a no go |
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| 18:52.43 | pjz | how can I get apt to install all the essenital packages? |
| 18:52.51 | pjz | er, that is, all the packages tagged essential? |
| 18:54.36 | petn-randall | pjz: apt-get install -f? |
| 18:54.43 | centrx | pjz, Probably easier to use dselect or aptitude to install all packages in section Required |
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| 18:55.29 | pjz | centrx: ah, good call! |
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| 19:05.29 | pjz | centrx: how do yo usee sections in aptitude? I don't see a 'Required' section |
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| 19:06.43 | centrx | pjz, e.g. "mail" in http://www.agentbob.info/agentbob/77/version/default/part/ImageData/data/aptitude-ip.gif |
| 19:07.00 | centrx | pjz, I don't use aptitude, you can probably select all in a section |
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| 19:08.56 | SynrG | ah. missed crickett by 2m |
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| 19:18.54 | somiaj | pjz: I think they mean priority, which is different than section. |
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| 19:20.02 | somiaj | pjz: aptitude search ~prequired will list all packages that have required priority. Note when I do this on a multiarch system I get both the i386 and amd64 version of the package, you probabaly don't want both. |
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| 19:21.31 | somiaj | pjz: if you want only amd64 packages, 'aptitude search ~prequired~ramd64' that will list the packages. If you want to install them replace 'search' with 'install' |
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| 19:23.03 | somiaj | pjz: and just because no one mentioned it, tasksel as a standard task, which is equivlant to install all packages that have priority standard, important and required. A useful task to install on most systems. |
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| 19:25.33 | unborn | o/ all.. is here anyone good with dns please? :) |
| 19:25.41 | pjz | somiaj: ah! yes! thanks! |
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| 19:26.00 | sysvalve | unborn: good with DNS or with a particular server implementation? :) |
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| 19:26.06 | andrej | I have a custom-program that depends on postgres being up& running. How do I get it to restart after postgres receives an update? |
| 19:26.19 | andrej | It does have an init-script |
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| 19:26.55 | sysvalve | andrej: that design is broken |
| 19:27.18 | sysvalve | a restart on a database server should be transparent to the application |
| 19:27.18 | sysvalve | just reconnect |
| 19:27.18 | unborn | sysvalve, im fine in virtualmin running on latest debian.. ive just reinstall server and found that in txt line I list internal ip of the server and external.. |
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| 19:27.55 | unborn | sysvalve, now I have no idea if that is correct coz on deb 6 i had just one ip - external |
| 19:27.57 | sysvalve | unborn: what txt line? |
| 19:28.11 | sysvalve | your question seems to be about virtualmin, not DNS |
| 19:29.02 | andrej | sysvalve - I appreciate that |
| 19:29.10 | andrej | but it's not written in house |
| 19:29.30 | sysvalve | andrej: then you depend on some sort of package manager hook or trigger... |
| 19:29.34 | andrej | how can I make the update process run its init-script? |
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| 19:30.12 | andrej | Do you have a pointer where I can read up on that? |
| 19:30.23 | sysvalve | andrej: you would need to modify the postgres package to trigger a restart, but I don't think that's a very good approach anyway |
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| 19:30.36 | andrej | Or is "package manager hook" in google going to find me a sensible hit? :) |
| 19:30.40 | unborn | sysvalve,- it is regards dns.. MYWEBSITE.co.uk.INTXT"v=spf1 a mx a:MYWEBSITE.co.uk ip4:192.168.0.8 ip4:EXTERNAL-IP ?all" |
| 19:30.42 | sysvalve | andrej: nope, but I'm sure that googling debian package trigger would help you |
| 19:30.50 | andrej | heh |
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| 19:31.12 | sysvalve | unborn: ah okay, you meant a txt dns record. I didn't get that :) |
| 19:31.27 | sysvalve | unborn: so, where's the issue? |
| 19:31.46 | andrej | Thanks, I'll be on my way |
| 19:31.51 | sysvalve | well, it's an SPF register, its a hint for mail servers of who is allowed to send mail for that domain |
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| 19:32.08 | sysvalve | s/register/record |
| 19:32.24 | unborn | sysvalve, no problem :) however one fellow expert really good one told me that it wont damage anything if I leave the internal ip in records.. so I have to see in few days.. |
| 19:32.49 | sysvalve | nope, it won't damage, but in the "public" internet it makes no sense since it's an unroutable address |
| 19:33.06 | unborn | i was just curious coz on older debian this was not 'popin up' in records.. i was thinking that Ive done something wrong |
| 19:33.08 | sysvalve | that address will never be seen in the intertubes, so... harmless and useless |
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| 19:33.30 | sysvalve | unborn: maybe that is a response for internal private setups |
| 19:33.39 | sysvalve | it *could* make sense |
| 19:33.48 | sysvalve | or maybe is just a result of a bad configuration option... |
| 19:33.53 | sysvalve | I don't know virtualmin |
| 19:34.11 | sysvalve | anyway, don't worry, it won't hurt, and at the same time if you want to delete that bit, it will be okay |
| 19:34.22 | unborn | sysvalve, yap.. as I said on my old setup on old debian (6) was not detect lot of things automatically :) |
| 19:34.26 | sysvalve | as long as you keep the good ones |
| 19:34.34 | unborn | yap... |
| 19:34.42 | unborn | cheers sysvalve |
| 19:34.55 | sysvalve | np |
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| 19:37.15 | unborn | sysvalve, one more shoot :) how to lock ssh login only to root? |
| 19:37.51 | unborn | i think its matter of creating some file and place it somewhere.. I think if I remember it correctly it was something in /etc eh? |
| 19:37.54 | sysvalve | unborn: that's the opposite of a good idea, actually |
| 19:38.06 | sysvalve | you should *not* let root to login via ssh |
| 19:39.05 | unborn | sysvalve, well I turn ssh only when I need it.. its simple, but I want lock out anything else from access to ssh login |
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| 19:39.52 | sysvalve | unborn: man sshd_config |
| 19:39.58 | sysvalve | search for allow |
| 19:40.02 | sysvalve | and/or deny |
| 19:40.07 | unborn | im just on it :) |
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| 20:15.32 | ratrace | hai. How do I find out how many bytes per inode are there in an ext3 partition? I suspect my blew up the inode size, because df -h shows 17GB used, while there's only 11GB reported by du in 109k inodes... |
| 20:15.41 | ratrace | *I suspect my host blew up |
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| 20:18.38 | somiaj | ratrace: tune2fs I think not only can modify that, it can give you the info about the file system |
| 20:19.17 | somiaj | tune2fs -l /dev/sdxx should work |
| 20:19.21 | ratrace | somiaj: I check that but I have no clue how to read the bytes per inode value... there's all kinds of data in block and group sizes, but not bytes per inode |
| 20:19.24 | somiaj | to list it, I belive you can modify some things. |
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| 20:21.14 | somiaj | ratrace: yea I don' thave that much experience either, I would imangine Block Size would be what you want to look at |
| 20:21.35 | ratrace | somiaj: because there's one inode per block? |
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| 20:22.18 | somiaj | ratrace: I would have to look that up, I just know tune2fs would give you the info. |
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| 20:25.04 | petn-randall | ratrace: "df -i" also shows how much inodes you've used up. |
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| 20:26.37 | ratrace | petn-randall: I did, that's why I think the inodes are much bigger than required. 20GB partition, du says 11GB is used but df says 17GB is used. for only 109k inodes. |
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| 20:27.18 | petn-randall | ratrace: Can you paste the actual commands + output for me to see at http://paste.debian.net? I'm not quite following through. |
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| 20:28.14 | ratrace | petn-randall: ok, sec... |
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| 20:32.50 | unborn | sysvalve, ive just created empty file called nologin and placed into /etc and it worked..now only root can access ssh.. which is most of the time offline.. completly |
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| 20:33.12 | sysvalve | unborn: nice :) |
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| 20:33.40 | unborn | it took me whole bathroom time to remember how did I done it last time :D |
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| 20:34.03 | unborn | okay time to turn my laptop off.. my eyes need relax |
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| 20:34.13 | ratrace | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/90838/ |
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| 20:34.23 | unborn | ta-ra folks o/ |
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| 20:34.39 | hfp | Hi guys! I have a computer with two network cards. One of the cards is connected to a fibre optic modem, the other card to a LAN (which has access to internet). Because the LAN internet has blocked ports, I would like to have the server dial its own PPPoE connection on the second network card (the one attached to the fibre optics modem), open an OpenVPN session to a VPN server I have in the cloud and route all internet traffic from that computer to the V |
| 20:34.39 | hfp | PN. The tricky part is that I still need the server to be accessible from the LAN because it is also a file server. Any pointers how I could do that? |
| 20:34.55 | ratrace | petn-randall: in short, both du and ncdu show cca 12GB used which is expected because I know what I uploaded. however, df shows 17GB used, in only 108k inodes, so I suspect inode byte size is very large. |
| 20:34.56 | hfp | It is running Debian 7.4 |
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| 20:36.00 | starbuck | hi, i'm unsure which debian iso-image to download, i need a fresh installation, what about those update isos? |
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| 20:36.08 | starbuck | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 20:36.12 | ratrace | petn-randall: so I want to find out the bytes-per-inode setting that was used to format the ext3 partition to see if the extra 5GB is used by metadata or there's hidden stuff on the disk |
| 20:36.23 | petn-randall | starbuck: You only need the netinstaller if you have internet access during installation. |
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| 20:37.36 | petn-randall | ratrace: Do you have many tiny files ( < 4 KB)? What is the output of "tune2fs -l /dev/<yourrootfsblockdevice>"? |
| 20:37.43 | starbuck | petn-randall: ok, will do, but just for my curiosity, would it be possible to do an installation with the debian-update-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso ? |
| 20:38.46 | rmorabia | I've tried installing Debian through the small installation image onto a USB drive using Pen Drive Linux, only to have the installation medium say the files lack integrity. Is there a more reliable way to get the installation onto a pen drive on Windows? |
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| 20:39.49 | somiaj | rmorabia: what do you mean by the small install image? Are you talking about the netinstall image or the business cd image? |
| 20:40.19 | rmorabia | somiaj: netinstall |
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| 20:41.44 | ratrace | petn-randall: there's a few tens of thousands of images, but those are in xx or xxx KB... here: http://paste.debian.net/90839/ |
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| 20:42.16 | dan` | Fatal server error: no screens found. Any idea how I should approach this? happens when I run startx |
| 20:42.59 | ratrace | petn-randall: but that would be visible in the number of inodes used. there's only 109k inodes on the root device/partition |
| 20:43.06 | ratrace | that's nothing |
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| 20:44.18 | somiaj | !tell rmorabia about usb install |
| 20:44.40 | somiaj | rmorabia: check that factoid it contains a link to a win32 image writter you can use |
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| 20:45.37 | rmorabia | somiaj: Got it, thanks. |
| 20:45.53 | petn-randall | starbuck: No, the update images only contain updates from 7.0.0 to 7.4.0. Check out which images you can use for installation here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 20:47.18 | petn-randall | ratrace: Looks weird. Can you take the filesystem offline and fsck it? |
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| 20:48.24 | ratrace | petn-randall: not right now |
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| 20:48.52 | ratrace | petn-randall: I'll figure it out, thanks for your help, I just wanted to find out bytes-per-inode value post-hoc |
| 20:48.58 | dhaval2712 | How do I set default run level in LMDE? I set init 2 on the kernel command line and tried to do init 2 in a terminal emulator but nothing happened. |
| 20:49.12 | petn-randall | !mint |
| 20:49.12 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 20:49.20 | petn-randall | dhaval2712: ^^^ |
| 20:49.44 | dhaval2712 | Oh. Sorry. |
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| 21:02.13 | IanB | Where can I get a VM image of debian wheezy? |
| 21:02.19 | danlamanna^ | any idea what to do with "Fatal server error: no screens found" coming from x? |
| 21:02.26 | danlamanna^ | startx, specifically. |
| 21:03.12 | IanB | Is X installed? |
| 21:03.23 | petn-randall | danlamanna^: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for more verbose info. |
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| 21:05.54 | danlamanna^ | many errors, most important i would guess are a ton of [drm] failed to open device, and a "screen(s) found but none have a usable configuration" |
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| 21:06.16 | petn-randall | danlamanna^: Which release are you running? |
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| 21:07.29 | danlamanna^ | petn-randall: 7.4. actually running crunchbang, but i'm sure this has to do with me attempting to install steam a while back, just never restarted until now. |
| 21:07.44 | danlamanna^ | petn-randall: i've uninstalled all my nvidia stuff, reinstalled nvidia-glx based on nvidia-detect |
| 21:08.04 | petn-randall | !crunchbang |
| 21:08.04 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
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| 21:09.01 | btrr | how to turn off blur in fonts in debian? |
| 21:09.48 | SynrG | depends on the desktop. most will have settings for fonts |
| 21:09.57 | SynrG | antialiasing or so |
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| 21:10.12 | SynrG | gnome? something else? |
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| 21:11.09 | shawnbon206 | this mouse is acting weird |
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| 21:11.33 | SynrG | shawnbon206: like, making faces? |
| 21:12.19 | shawnbon206 | no idea where to begin. logitech mouse with unify receiver it just hangs momentarily sometimes. if i am dragging sonething it will drop it and pick it up again in a different spot |
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| 21:12.30 | shawnbon206 | windows 7 working fine |
| 21:12.39 | SynrG | shawnbon206: and without unifying? |
| 21:12.50 | SynrG | in one case i had to decouple mine. |
| 21:12.58 | shawnbon206 | oh you mean a wired mouse? |
| 21:13.06 | SynrG | no |
| 21:13.16 | SynrG | i mean a mouse and keyboard paired |
| 21:13.19 | shawnbon206 | well we dont have any other devices attached |
| 21:13.24 | SynrG | if that doesn't apply to you, ignore this advice :) |
| 21:13.26 | shawnbon206 | paired* |
| 21:13.43 | SynrG | in another case i had to move the receiver to the front port |
| 21:13.54 | shawnbon206 | well i might try re - pairing |
| 21:14.12 | shawnbon206 | and noving the receiver |
| 21:14.31 | shawnbon206 | its weird it used to work and nothing has changed except for system updates |
| 21:14.54 | shawnbon206 | i am on jessie tho so i guess i shouldn't be surprised |
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| 21:29.22 | GNU\colossus | does anyone in here run Debian on a Chromebook? |
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| 21:36.13 | Robs58 | Hi |
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| 21:38.50 | Luxxor | I have a problem with my Debian server. Im having the problem with "GLIBC_2.14" |
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| 21:39.41 | Robs58 | I'm new to debian. Im trying to login to ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ but it will not let me authenticate as user "anonymous" |
| 21:39.44 | Robs58 | any ideas? |
| 21:40.11 | petn-randall | Luxxor: Can you provide any more details? |
| 21:40.12 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 21:40.13 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:40.17 | Luxxor | full error log: "synergy: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.214" not found (required by synergy)" I have tried to follow like 30 different guides |
| 21:40.35 | centrx | Robs58, Why are you trying to login? |
| 21:40.44 | Luxxor | petn-randall: im trying to use synergy-foss :) |
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| 21:41.14 | petn-randall | Luxxor: And you're running which release? |
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| 21:41.49 | Luxxor | petn-randall: Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 |
| 21:42.00 | Robs58 | centrx: I need to download debian-6.0.9 amd64 |
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| 21:42.22 | petn-randall | Robs58: works fine for me, ftp and http. |
| 21:42.24 | Luxxor | petn-randall: and the latest version of synergy. (which can be found at synergy-foss.org) |
| 21:42.42 | Robs58 | do you login as user "anonymous"? |
| 21:42.57 | TJ- | Robs58: What you need really is HTTP, don't be fooled by the 'ftp' in the hostname: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ |
| 21:43.20 | Robs58 | I'm using winscp to download |
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| 21:43.23 | petn-randall | Luxxor: That's only the kernel version. What is the output of 'cat /etc/debian_version'? |
| 21:43.49 | Luxxor | petn-randall: oh sorry, 7.4 |
| 21:44.02 | babilen | Luxxor: Well, their application is obviously not meant to be used on wheezy but targets Ubuntu. This is, most likely, an error on their part (in that their packaging erroneously links against libc6 >= 2.14) and you will have to recompile it yourself against the libraries on wheezy. |
| 21:44.19 | petn-randall | Robs58: Those are install images of squeeze, which runs out of support in May. |
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| 21:45.04 | Robs58 | When I try to login as user "anonymous", I get the message: "The requested name is valid, but no data of the requested type was found. |
| 21:45.04 | Robs58 | Connection failed." |
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| 21:45.52 | Luxxor | babilen: I think you are right. I will check if i find any good guys explaining how to compile it against the libraries on wheezy then. Thanks for help babilen & petn-randall! |
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| 21:46.13 | dotDeb | I'm using debian with xfce and I'm having two problems with dual monitors |
| 21:46.17 | petn-randall | Robs58: TJ- already said it, use http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/. Or fix your ftp client. |
| 21:46.36 | dotDeb | one is the transparency. when I click a window in one screen it makes the windows in the other screen transparent |
| 21:46.46 | Robs58 | will do. thanks |
| 21:46.52 | dotDeb | even though ideally it would only make the other windows in the same screen transparent |
| 21:46.57 | babilen | Luxxor: Grab their source code, install the needed libraries (you need build-essential + selected -dev packages) and make use of stow to manage that "installation" |
| 21:47.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell Luxxor -about build-essential |
| 21:47.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell Luxxor -about stow usage |
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| 21:47.12 | babilen | Luxxor: H |
| 21:47.19 | dotDeb | and secondly, if i have something full screen on the second monitor, it quits out of the fullscreen if I use the main monitor |
| 21:47.28 | dotDeb | basically i just need to fully separate the two monitors |
| 21:47.31 | Luxxor | thanks! babilen, really appreciate it! :) |
| 21:47.41 | babilen | Luxxor: They do, hopefully, ship a sensible INSTALL file in their tarball in which they explain how to build their software and which libraries to install. |
| 21:47.43 | dotDeb | but if anyone could help with either problem it would be greatly appreciated |
| 21:48.18 | babilen | judd: v synergy |
| 21:48.19 | judd | Package: synergy on i386 -- squeeze: 1.3.1-5; wheezy: 1.3.8-2; jessie: 1.4.16-1; sid: 1.4.16-1 |
| 21:48.38 | babilen | Luxxor: But then ^^^ it seems to be already packaged in Debian. Just run "apt-get install synergy" and you are done. |
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| 21:48.57 | jubo2 | Shukran, shukran FLOSS devels |
| 21:49.14 | babilen | jubo2: Can we help you? |
| 21:49.15 | jubo2 | how do I burn .iso image to USB stick using Debian ? |
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| 21:49.38 | jubo2 | I tried |
| 21:49.40 | jubo2 | sudo dd if=debian-7.4.0-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso of=/dev/sdb oflag=direct bs=1048576cd |
| 21:49.44 | jubo2 | but that no help |
| 21:49.52 | babilen | jubo2: cp the-image.iso /dev/sdX ; sync (with /dev/sdX being somehting like /dev/sdb and your usb stick) |
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| 21:50.18 | jubo2 | babilen: 'k .. I try that |
| 21:50.20 | petn-randall | dotDeb: Go to settings → "Window mananger tweaks" → "Compositor". There you can set everything to be opaque. |
| 21:50.29 | babilen | dpkg: tell jubo2 -about usb install |
| 21:50.37 | Luxxor | babilen: they recently released a new version of synergy, so it doesn't work by just using apt-get install for me :( |
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| 21:50.47 | babilen | Luxxor: And you need that version? |
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| 21:51.10 | Luxxor | babilen: Not really, i was just wanting to see if it was more stable. :) but i think i will stay with the older version |
| 21:51.20 | dotDeb | petn-randall but that would eliminate my transparency, yes? I don't want that and it only solves half the issue |
| 21:51.31 | babilen | Luxxor: You can backport 1.4.16 from sid if you want to try that. |
| 21:51.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell Luxxor -about ssb |
| 21:51.46 | Luxxor | babilen: tyvm! :) |
| 21:51.55 | petn-randall | dotDeb: So you want transparency only on one screen but not the other? |
| 21:51.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell Luxxor -about uupdate |
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| 21:52.14 | babilen | Luxxor: You can even try to update the packaging to their .17 release, but I doubt that it is worth the effort. |
| 21:52.18 | dotDeb | petn-randall no i want transparency for inactive windows on each screen; so I want each screen to have one active window |
| 21:52.24 | dotDeb | petn-randall is it even possible? |
| 21:52.29 | jubo2 | I've messed up the stick |
| 21:52.37 | babilen | Luxxor: Now you really know all your options. :) |
| 21:52.41 | jubo2 | how did I write zeros on top of the start ? |
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| 21:53.34 | mmlj4 | how can I enforce using my own foo.deb package instead of what apt/aptitude wants to install? thanks. |
| 21:53.47 | jubo2 | 'cp image.iso /dev/sdb0' gives error "device has no space left" |
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| 21:53.53 | babilen | jubo2: Just copy the image to the stick .. you don't have to zero anything. (that would be done with, say, "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1" (or something like that)) |
| 21:54.00 | petn-randall | dotDeb: I don't think so. Your second problem has also sometimes bit me, no idea how to fix that. |
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| 21:54.19 | dotDeb | petn-randall :((( ok well thanks for trying |
| 21:54.24 | babilen | jubo2: I said /dev/sdb *not* /dev/sdb0 -- you are copying to the device itself not to a partition |
| 21:54.36 | jubo2 | babilen: aha. I see.. sry my bad |
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| 21:55.02 | dotDeb | anyone else here know how I can have one active window on each screen? (for transparency purposes) |
| 21:55.06 | Robs58 | Okay I'm at the debian http site now to attempt to download 6.0.9; I see an orage folder that says "Debian6.0.9" I drill down and I see a bunch of choices; I need the amd64 version. I see a file that says "Contents-amd64.gz" My question is this...will this file contain an iso image containing all the installtation bits? |
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| 21:55.35 | jubo2 | babilen: it complains |
| 21:55.43 | petn-randall | Robs58: Why do you need 6.0.9? squeeze is ancient. |
| 21:55.59 | Luxxor | Again. thank you babilen for your help. :) |
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| 21:56.05 | Robs58 | petn...long story...but the short of it is that I need it |
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| 21:56.26 | jubo2 | cp: making normal file /dev/sdb doesn't work: media not found |
| 21:56.34 | jubo2 | or whatever that's in Finnish |
| 21:56.34 | Artemis3 | petn-randall, well its getting lts for a reason :) |
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| 21:56.56 | petn-randall | Artemis3: It is? |
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| 21:57.58 | Robs58 | too long and convolutedt to explain...can anyone answer "does the contents-amd64.gz contain the iso installation bits, and if not, where can I get this |
| 21:58.14 | petn-randall | Robs58: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/oldstable/main/installer-amd64/ |
| 21:58.28 | Robs58 | thanks petn...going there now |
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| 21:58.43 | babilen | jubo2: Could you plug in your stick and run "dmesg | tail -n23" and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 22:00.33 | petn-randall | Artemis3: I've heard of this rumour before, do you have a link to the source? AFAIK support runs out in May. |
| 22:00.46 | Artemis3 | have to search it again~ |
| 22:01.18 | Artemis3 | http://bits.debian.org/2014/03/working-on-squeeze-lts.html |
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| 22:02.27 | petn-randall | Artemis3: Interesting, but only time will tell if this really happens. |
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| 22:02.43 | Artemis3 | indeed :) |
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| 22:06.19 | c4pt | hello |
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| 22:06.34 | babilen | jubo2: ping |
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| 22:07.04 | shawnbon206 | question: if i needed to reset my mysql password could i dpkg-reconfigure it? |
| 22:07.11 | c4pt | I am trying to remove a package with apt-get and I am trying to stop the package from reinstalling when i run apt-get -f install basically the package is mate-screensaver I want to remove mate-screensaver from apt-get and flag this package so the system doesnt try to reinstall it |
| 22:07.12 | c4pt | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 22:07.12 | c4pt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.12 | c4pt | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). |
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| 22:07.22 | shawnbon206 | the database itself is empty |
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| 22:08.03 | dotDeb | YES solved it |
| 22:08.13 | c4pt | http://paste.debian.net/plain/90849 |
| 22:08.15 | shawnbon206 | sorry for repeat, the flooder kinda spread my two lines apart: question: if i needed to reset my mysql password could i dpkg-reconfigure it? database is empty |
| 22:08.55 | babilen | juboxi: ping? |
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| 22:09.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell shawnbon206 -about ifmrp |
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| 22:09.54 | cafuego | shawnbon206: You could purge the server and then reinstall it. |
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| 22:10.10 | cafuego | shawnbon206: or you could just start it without passwords, set one, restart it normall. |
| 22:10.16 | babilen | judd: v mate-screensaver |
| 22:10.17 | judd | No package named 'mate-screensaver' was found in i386. |
| 22:10.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell c4pt about mate |
| 22:10.50 | c4pt | babilen, i have mate installed already |
| 22:10.59 | c4pt | babilen, i am using mate as a desktop environment |
| 22:11.05 | shawnbon206 | i'll just purge and reinstall thats easier than following some complex steps to reset a password when i dont have anything in there i am trying to save :) thank you |
| 22:11.10 | babilen | c4pt: You will have to remove their packages in their entirety and we do not support their third-party packages. Ask in #mate please. |
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| 22:11.55 | c4pt | babilen, when i run apt-get --purge remove mate-screensaver it removes mate-screensaver but then when i try to use apt-get it tries to reinstall mate-screensaver |
| 22:11.58 | babilen | c4pt: And you cannot remove that package as the matapackage you installed depends on it. But then, take it to their channel. You are using third-party packages that are not officially supported in here. |
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| 22:12.27 | c4pt | babilen, i just wanted to know how to flag a package in the installed packages so it doesnt install anymore ? |
| 22:12.35 | c4pt | babilen, create a dummy package for it ? |
| 22:12.48 | babilen | c4pt: That is the wrong approach, you shouldn't install metapckage you don't want in the first place. |
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| 22:13.26 | babilen | c4pt: But then, please ask #mate on how to deal with this situation. Seriously, you are using their packages and you want their advice on how to resolve this particular situation. |
| 22:13.38 | c4pt | ok |
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| 22:16.25 | babilen | juboxi: Are you still there? Could you paste the requested output or are you no longer interested in pursuing this (if so, then please let me know) |
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| 22:17.14 | CygniX | is there a similar http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/ for apache? |
| 22:17.33 | Robs58 | Im not finding debian-6.0.9-amd64-DVD-1.iso on the debian site anyone have any insight as to where this might be located? sorry for the new-biness of it all....but have to start somewhere |
| 22:17.34 | CygniX | I want apache 2.4 on wheezy |
| 22:17.45 | babilen | CygniX: You cannot. |
| 22:18.26 | neoice | I took my first stab at bluetooth on Linux today... am I doing something wrong or is bluetooth suppport really this bad? |
| 22:18.41 | CygniX | babilen: I see, dependencies issues I assume |
| 22:18.55 | abrotman | neoice: it's not that bad, it's just not easy |
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| 22:18.56 | neoice | bluetooth errors, dbus errors, I managed to crash completely too! |
| 22:19.06 | babilen | CygniX: Every package remotely related to Apache in the archive will be broken. |
| 22:20.13 | babilen | CygniX: Compiling it itself if okay and, IIRC, you can even install that, but you'll break everything else. Use 2.2 or use a distribution that supports 2.4 in one of their stable releases. |
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| 22:20.59 | neoice | abrotman: I'm a sysadmin by trade: almost every work day involves making Linux complex or unusual things. I figured something with a GUI wizard would be a cakewalk :) |
| 22:21.15 | CygniX | babilen: maybe I'll just stick to 2.2 for now |
| 22:21.34 | petn-randall | Robs58: https://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/debian-installer/ |
| 22:21.40 | petn-randall | Robs58: Found it with google :) |
| 22:22.04 | babilen | CygniX: Your call and a good decision. All I am saying is: If you want 2.4 wheezy is not what you should use |
| 22:22.11 | babilen | s/want/need |
| 22:22.47 | CygniX | isnt jessie getting close to stable by the way |
| 22:22.59 | petn-randall | CygniX: Still a year away, at least. |
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| 22:23.37 | babilen | CygniX: It will be frozen this winter (2014-11-05) and nobody knows how long it'll take for it to mature |
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| 22:24.35 | CygniX | I think unbutu has 2.4 but dont want to use it |
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| 22:24.45 | somiaj | CygniX: best guess is about a year after the freeze, +- 6months. In the grand scheme of things that isn't to far off. (: |
| 22:25.07 | CygniX | somiaj: time is relative anywayss :) |
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| 22:26.47 | CygniX | is it possible to configure postgres that default databases create are utf8? |
| 22:26.57 | abrotman | neoice: Sometimes the GUI hinders you |
| 22:27.02 | abrotman | CygniX: yes |
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| 22:27.19 | petn-randall | CygniX: You can hold your breath but should have a pair of gills just in case it takes a little longer ... |
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| 22:27.34 | neoice | abrotman: I'm going to try full CLI on this box. I just noticed its a broadcom BT adapter... I've always had problems with broadcom wifi, so it's probably some driver issue |
| 22:28.05 | petn-randall | CygniX: I'm pretty sure that's the default in a fesh install on Debian. |
| 22:28.05 | Mongo44 | Is there any cause to get new software from a tar.gz source? |
| 22:28.22 | petn-randall | Mongo44: Only good reason is if it's not packaged in Debian. |
| 22:28.25 | CygniX | petn-randall: I am not so sure about that |
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| 22:28.43 | CygniX | I created a db and it defaulted to ascii |
| 22:29.00 | petn-randall | CygniX: I just checked on my machine, it is. |
| 22:29.10 | CygniX | petn-randall: how do i check |
| 22:29.17 | Mongo44 | I have never been able to unpack a tar.gz. It is probably easier than I think it is. |
| 22:29.21 | petn-randall | CygniX: You create a database and look? |
| 22:29.36 | petn-randall | CygniX: \l in psql |
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| 22:30.12 | CygniX | petn-randall: on another system, it is not utf8, it's debian 7 and postgres 9.1 |
| 22:30.50 | petn-randall | CygniX: template0 and template1 are utf8? It might be an upgrade from an older installation. |
| 22:31.07 | CygniX | let me check |
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| 22:31.59 | CygniX | template0 | postgres | SQL_ASCII | C | C | =c/postgres |
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| 22:32.50 | petn-randall | CygniX: I remember SQL_ASCII was the default in < 8.3, you can probably set it up by hand that way with newer installations. |
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| 22:32.52 | CygniX | in my new install of another system with postgres 9.3, the default is utf8 |
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| 22:34.00 | petn-randall | CygniX: Was a pleasure talking! I have to go, see you around. |
| 22:34.10 | CygniX | thank petn-randall later |
| 22:34.54 | Mongo44 | I need to find a good guide on tar.gz's. |
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| 22:38.51 | JoaoCarneiro | Mongo44: a guide? |
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| 22:39.30 | Mongo44 | Yeah I am looking at this currently: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-open-a-tar-gz-file-in-linux-unix/ |
| 22:40.03 | abrotman | looks at babilen |
| 22:40.14 | JoaoCarneiro | Mongo44: just pop up a console tar zxvf file.tar.gz |
| 22:40.16 | babilen | looks at abrotman |
| 22:40.48 | JoaoCarneiro | looks at both of you |
| 22:40.56 | babilen | *now kiss* |
| 22:41.11 | Mongo44 | Maybe I will try to get Warzone 2100 and learn how. |
| 22:41.24 | JoaoCarneiro | Mongo44: ? |
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| 22:43.25 | abrotman | Mongo44: Warzone2100 is already packaged |
| 22:43.54 | Mongo44 | It is a well I forget the name. Where you can control many units in battle: http://wz2100.net/ |
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| 22:45.12 | Mongo44 | It doesn't appear to be in synaptic. |
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| 22:47.43 | JoaoCarneiro | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.54 | Mongo44 | The latest version is a tar.xz. Is that different? |
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| 22:50.47 | Mongo44 | The command doesn't seem to have done anything. Also how do I search for the Smuxi version available in backports? |
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| 22:51.58 | ragusource | hey guys |
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| 22:52.32 | ragusource | I added a file under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 22:52.37 | ragusource | but it's being ignored |
| 22:52.46 | ragusource | Ign http://packages.dotdeb.org wheezy/all |
| 22:52.56 | glycol | is intel 4th gen (haswell) 3d graphics supposed to work on jessie? |
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| 22:56.42 | glycol | is it possible to use the IGP but output video through an nvidia card with the proprietary drivers? |
| 22:57.27 | njaard | how does /home/user get created in a Live Debian build? |
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| 23:09.47 | pimpim | any tutorial to put debian good for desktop after install? |
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| 23:10.38 | shelpe | pimpim you did a netinst i assume? I assume you don't want a desktop enviroment either |
| 23:11.38 | Brigo | !tell pimpim about install guide |
| 23:12.38 | pimpim | i want a desktop environment |
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| 23:14.19 | shelpe | pimpim there are many desktop enviroments but i'm not into the whole spoonfeeding thing. the wiki on debian.org has a great portal to desktop enviroments https://wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment |
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| 23:20.29 | acu | can I install from begining -during installation - the kernel from backports ? |
| 23:20.39 | Mongo44 | I am trying to unpack a tar.xz: http://paste.debian.net/90862/ |
| 23:20.41 | acu | I want to install wheezy with backports kernel |
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| 23:22.42 | centrx | Mongo44, Tar doesn't output the contents of the files to stdout |
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| 23:24.14 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: you want tar -Jxvf foo.tar.xz |
| 23:24.20 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: man tar; for details |
| 23:24.41 | c4pt | I am trying to remove a package from apt-get but it calls a meta package how can i just remove this package but not the meta-package |
| 23:24.50 | c4pt | babilen, i asked in #mate no one answers :D |
| 23:24.54 | Mongo44 | I will try that thanks. |
| 23:25.10 | c4pt | im trying to do something simlilar to this |
| 23:25.11 | c4pt | http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package |
| 23:25.13 | dondelelcaro | c4pt: remove the meta package and that package. And ask in #mate; they also have forums and mailing lists... |
| 23:25.15 | jhutchins_wk | Mongo44: Actually, I believe output to stdout is the default for tar. |
| 23:25.18 | c4pt | but for mate-desktop-environment |
| 23:25.31 | jhutchins_wk | !mate |
| 23:25.31 | dpkg | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8.0 "Jessie". To install, ask me about <install mate>. http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. |
| 23:25.53 | dondelelcaro | jhutchins_wk: for anything which would output to a file, yeah |
| 23:26.11 | dondelelcaro | (or more clearly, anything which would output to the f option) |
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| 23:26.39 | jhutchins_wk | That's ho wyou pipe tar to a remote unpack or something like that. |
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| 23:28.13 | dondelelcaro | right, pretty much |
| 23:28.40 | dondelelcaro | (that's basically so you can go tar zc foo files > /dev/tape0; or whatever) |
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| 23:29.14 | dondelelcaro | having never actually written to a tape device can't remember what the device is called, or the programs which you have to use to actually operate it |
| 23:30.02 | cafuego | mine was /dev/st0 |
| 23:30.10 | cafuego | program called 'mt' |
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| 23:31.15 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: right; had to google it myself. ;-) |
| 23:31.19 | c4pt | dondelelcaro, thanx that worked |
| 23:31.36 | c4pt | dondelelcaro, i just did dpkg -r --force-all mate-screensaver mate-desktop-environment |
| 23:31.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok guys who do i go to for Xwindows mesa driver opengl support? |
| 23:31.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | i need my xbmc running. |
| 23:31.46 | Mongo44 | So Jxvf each one of those letters are commands? |
| 23:31.47 | dondelelcaro | c4pt: uh... that's a horrible idea. |
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| 23:31.52 | dondelelcaro | !force-all |
| 23:31.52 | dpkg | You should never, ever have to use --force-all. If you are using unstable, and there are bugs in packages, you may need to use a specific --force option (ask me about <force-overwrite> or <confmiss>), but then you should use the precise --force option required. Using --force-depends and/or --force-conflicts is *ALWAYS* broken. Fix the offending packages or use <equivs> instead. |
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| 23:32.16 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: yes |
| 23:32.26 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: tar is old. it's options don't have to be preceeded with a - |
| 23:32.48 | njaard | as unix develops, commands require more - with their parameters |
| 23:33.24 | babilen | c4pt: I told you earlier: Don't install the metapackage if you don't want it. And you still want #mate for advice on how to achieve whatever you are trying to achieve with their packages. I am sorry that their support is non-existant, but you might want to consider that too when choosing a DE. |
| 23:33.26 | jetscreamer | not nec. via iceweasel, but is there a way to stop iceweasel and/or other browsers from accessing a specific javascript, or http://site/jscriptDirectory/* ? |
| 23:33.38 | c4pt | dondelelcaro, should be ok |
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| 23:34.04 | Mongo44 | Same error with -Jxvf. |
| 23:34.06 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: actually, I gave you the options with -Jxvf... but yes, those are definitely options. man tar; and read about the 'J' option and compare it to the 'z' option. |
| 23:34.19 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: what is the error? |
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| 23:34.48 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: cannot open file or directory? that sounds like warzone2100-3.1.1.tar.xz isn't actually the right filename. |
| 23:34.56 | Mongo44 | http://paste.debian.net/90862/ |
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| 23:35.04 | jetscreamer | esp never force-all if you don't know what you're doing |
| 23:35.09 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: or you don't xz-utils installed or something. |
| 23:35.17 | babilen | judd: v warzone2100 |
| 23:35.18 | judd | Package: warzone2100 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.3.4-1; squeeze-backports: 2.3.8-1~bpo60+1; jessie: 3.1~beta11-2.1; sid: 3.1~beta11-2.1; experimental: 3.1~rc2-1 |
| 23:35.31 | jetscreamer | warzone works |
| 23:35.45 | jetscreamer | no fun after you beat it the first time though imo |
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| 23:36.54 | jetscreamer | why don't you just apt-get install it? |
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| 23:37.15 | jetscreamer | oh wheezy |
| 23:37.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | guy is where are the Xorg how to?s |
| 23:37.25 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: for what? |
| 23:37.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | Dpkg was a weeny and didnt know |
| 23:37.25 | dpkg | i don't know, Eryn_1983_FL |
| 23:37.26 | jetscreamer | x.org? |
| 23:37.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | Mesa Opengl |
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| 23:37.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | need to know what to put in the configs so i get mesa to use dri and load modules.. |
| 23:37.53 | Mongo44 | I want to learn how to do this. |
| 23:38.00 | jetscreamer | oh that |
| 23:38.14 | jetscreamer | man xorg-something, i forget |
| 23:38.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 23:38.48 | jetscreamer | lemme think been a while |
| 23:39.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 23:39.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | dont u use a desktop jetscreamer ? |
| 23:39.25 | Mongo44 | I got root terminal open for some reason I can't open a regular one also. |
| 23:40.25 | jetscreamer | that was hard http://wiki.x.org/wiki/UserDocumentation/ via https://www.google.com/search?q=xorg+mesa+dri |
| 23:40.57 | jetscreamer | depends on what i want to do, Eryn_1983_FL |
| 23:41.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol Games < Everything else |
| 23:41.17 | Mongo44 | man has this -z, --gzip, --gunzip --ungzip. |
| 23:41.44 | Mongo44 | It said J is a combination of x and z. |
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| 23:41.57 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 23:43.01 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: are you implying I'm old? ;-) |
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| 23:43.25 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: well, not really... because that would be a pot-kettle problem. |
| 23:43.45 | Mongo44 | Right and v tell the process to list the files in the archive. I don't know about this error though. |
| 23:44.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | wow, i am always impressed my Xorg, i dont see why the community wants to do away with it. its intense reading that manual. I don't even know what a quater of that stuff is.. |
| 23:44.22 | cafuego | ehehe |
| 23:44.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | drawing pretty pictures is hard even for computers.. |
| 23:44.28 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: no, -J is for xz |
| 23:44.34 | jetscreamer | heh... i use kettlepot, personally |
| 23:44.51 | dondelelcaro | Mongo44: which is a different compression format. |
| 23:45.19 | dondelelcaro | (as opposed to gzip, bzip2, Z, or 7z.) |
| 23:45.58 | jetscreamer | dondelelcaro: just curious. how many years have you been on irc helping ppl with debian? many, i know. |
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| 23:46.25 | Mongo44 | I guess I will ls Downloads. |
| 23:46.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | i think i killed it.. |
| 23:47.00 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: I started using Debian in 1998, and I was on IRC around that same timeframe, I think. |
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| 23:47.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | hard core dondelelcaro |
| 23:47.50 | jetscreamer | dondelelcaro++ |
| 23:47.52 | dondelelcaro | (there are some people here who have been using Unix and Debian for quite a bit longer than I have, though) |
| 23:48.13 | acu | I want to create a btrfs / and /swap (both encrypted |
| 23:48.29 | Mongo44 | warzone2100-3.1.1.tar.xz that is it right in /Downloads. Should I use the entire location? |
| 23:49.29 | acu | !encryption |
| 23:49.29 | dpkg | Encryption is useful to keep data protected on your system. There is a nice guide on how to use LVM encrypted partitions at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/469 . See also <dm-crypt>, <ecryptfs>, <encfs>, <gpg>, <luks>. |
| 23:49.38 | abrotman | jesus, i've been using Debian as long as dondelelcaro ? Luckily I didn't find #debian for many years more :) |
| 23:50.17 | Mongo44 | That did the trick. |
| 23:50.28 | jetscreamer | middle-ish of woody for me, not sure |
| 23:50.51 | acu | I wonder /boot can be btrfs but cannot be encrypted ? |
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| 23:51.33 | jetscreamer | maybe one day i'll learn something |
| 23:51.38 | Mongo44 | Alright so what is the next step update and upgrade? |
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| 23:53.02 | Mongo44 | Shouldn't it be listed in applications now? |
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| 23:53.42 | jetscreamer | wonders just what the heck Mongo44 is doing but no matter |
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| 23:56.52 | NotJimCarrey | i'm trying to build xbmc on debian but i'm stuck on this error message: |
| 23:56.57 | NotJimCarrey | "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/predefs.h', needed by `dvdnav.o'. Stop." |
| 23:57.05 | NotJimCarrey | i do have predefs.h in /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/bits/ though |
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| 23:58.57 | Mongo44 | Right I see it it is under my user folder. How do I open it? |
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| 23:59.08 | basketball | hi i am looking a a fun os to try |
| 23:59.14 | basketball | what should i try |
