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| 00:01.07 | glycol | it's an _sshd_, a 1 tb platter and a builtin 8gb mlc cache |
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| 00:02.25 | superlinux-hp | hi. I can ping and resolve hostnames, but firefox cannot. what should i do? |
| 00:02.34 | jhutchins | glycol: Some sort of hybrid then? Anyway, as long as it works don't worry about the details, the architecture is probably a bit odd. |
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| 00:03.50 | jhutchins | glycol: Smartmontools is still a good idea if it's compatible, and, of course, backups. |
| 00:04.09 | somiaj | superlinux-hp: why are you using firefox and not iceweasel? I do know that firefox sometimes does it's own caching of dns. |
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| 00:04.43 | glycol | yes, afaik the 8gb flash cache is used for caching reads only |
| 00:04.48 | jhutchins | superlinux-hp: If you can resolve and ping the exact hostname that firefox can't reach, you're probably firewalled. What is the exact error? |
| 00:05.34 | glycol | so when the cache completely dies it becomes a plain hdd, the cache isn't visible to the os |
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| 00:05.52 | superlinux-hp | jhutchins, i just cannot simply browse the web unless i reboot the mechine. it stalls on "connecting..." |
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| 00:06.43 | superlinux-hp | i don't get any error messages.. facebook is not blocked on my side. and i get the same |
| 00:07.28 | jhutchins | superlinux-hp: iceweasel or firefox, and which version? |
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| 00:07.40 | somiaj | superlinux-hp: I found some thread via google that suggests proxy settings could be doing this. Do you have it set to auto find a proxy or are using one? |
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| 00:08.40 | jhutchins | ,v xchat |
| 00:08.41 | judd | Package: xchat on i386 -- squeeze: 2.8.8-3; wheezy: 2.8.8-7.1; jessie: 2.8.8-7.1+b1; sid: 2.8.8-7.1+b1 |
| 00:09.02 | phantomcircuit | lol |
| 00:09.11 | phantomcircuit | there's a bug in the fglrx driver |
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| 00:09.24 | phantomcircuit | is tried to load stuff from /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib |
| 00:09.25 | phantomcircuit | :| |
| 00:09.27 | asterismo | duper`, do you have any idea on my IRC issue? |
| 00:09.55 | asterismo | stunnel starts fine but irssi cannot connect in port 7000, it can connect in 6667 |
| 00:10.36 | asterismo | anyone can help me? i'm trying to enable stunnel for using SSL in ircd-irc2 server on port 7000 |
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| 00:10.53 | asterismo | my ircd-irc2 is running in port 6667 |
| 00:11.07 | superlinux-hp | jhutchins, i am using firefox nightly. |
| 00:11.12 | asterismo | but testing with irssi i cannot connect to localhost in port 7000 |
| 00:11.15 | superlinux-hp | i know it's unstable |
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| 00:11.17 | asterismo | any ideas? |
| 00:11.47 | superlinux-hp | but still, that does not mean any other software cannot also connect! |
| 00:12.02 | jhutchins | superlinux-hp: Do you have iceweasel installed? |
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| 00:12.25 | superlinux-hp | yes i do! |
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| 00:12.34 | jhutchins | superlinux-hp: Any problems with it? |
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| 00:13.08 | jhutchins | ,mdn |
| 00:13.09 | superlinux-hp | just some sites don't recognize it as firefox. |
| 00:13.15 | jhutchins | !mdn |
| 00:13.15 | dpkg | The "Extended Support Release" version (10) of the Iceweasel web browser is in <squeeze-backports>. Newer Iceweasel (also Icedove and Iceape) are at http://mozilla.debian.net/ for squeeze and wheezy or in <experimental> for jessie and sid. |
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| 00:13.29 | glycol | superlinux-hp: edit the useragent? |
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| 00:13.35 | jhutchins | superlinux-hp: Name one. |
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| 00:14.21 | superlinux-hp | i forgot.. but i recall that some sites don'e recognize it. |
| 00:14.42 | somiaj | superlinux-hp: how about your resolving domain's issue, do the domains resolve in iceweasel just fine but not in firefox? |
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| 00:15.57 | glycol | i believe ive read in some changelog long ago that iceweasel changed its useragent to be the same as firefox's because of this |
| 00:16.24 | asterismo | anyone? |
| 00:16.29 | asterismo | please help |
| 00:18.17 | superlinux-hp | i surrender.. i'll reboot. |
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| 00:20.10 | glycol | jhutchins: i solved the gparted issue by backing up everything and recreating the partition table and sdc1 |
| 00:20.26 | asterismo | is there any ircd-ir2 channel? |
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| 00:22.59 | glycol | asterismo: http://www.irc2.net/main.php?action=contact ? |
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| 00:25.30 | jhutchins | glycol: Excellent solution. |
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| 00:26.04 | asterismo | glycol, there is nothing about SSL or Stunnel |
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| 00:29.06 | glycol | you asked for an ircd-irc2 channel, no? |
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| 00:47.30 | glycol | asterismo: did you know that ircd-irc2's latest version is from 2005? just look at the dates in the package's source, i don't believe someone is still maintaining it |
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| 00:57.27 | ScottG489 | I'm having trouble getting my wifi working. I have read the wiki page for my device (bcm4322) but when I run 'iwlist scan' for wlan0 it says 'Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down' |
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| 00:57.44 | abrotman | ifup wlan0 ? |
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| 01:00.07 | ScottG489 | abrotman: "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0." |
| 01:01.23 | abrotman | well, that seems to be a hint |
| 01:01.43 | ScottG489 | abrotman: ifconfig -a shows wlan0 |
| 01:02.01 | abrotman | ScottG489: is it in your interfaces file? how are you trying to manage it? using NetworkManager? |
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| 01:06.18 | ScottG489 | abrotman: I'm not familiar with the interfaces file. And I'm not trying to manage anything yet. Just trying to get iwlist to show some ap's |
| 01:06.39 | sandman13 | is there a way to get joy splash screen in debian 7 for KDE |
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| 01:07.03 | sdegutis | Why does the Debian installation come on 3 DVDs? |
| 01:07.44 | abrotman | sdegutis: that's for offline installs |
| 01:07.47 | abrotman | sandman13: yes |
| 01:08.16 | sdegutis | Ah. |
| 01:08.27 | sandman13 | abrotman: how? |
| 01:08.27 | abrotman | sdegutis: otherwise, use the netinst if you have broadband |
| 01:08.35 | ScottG489 | abrotman: ok things are coming back to me now. found the interfaces file. |
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| 01:08.57 | sdegutis | I tried to net-install which I burned onto a USB, but it doesn't have the wifi drivers for my Thinkpad on it. |
| 01:09.08 | sdegutis | And I don't know how to get them. |
| 01:09.18 | sdegutis | Or how I would even get them on there, seeing as I only have 1 USB stick. |
| 01:09.31 | sandman13 | sdegutis: connect LAN first |
| 01:09.51 | sdegutis | Ahh smart. |
| 01:10.30 | sandman13 | then browse to /etc/apt |
| 01:10.40 | sandman13 | there you can see sources.list |
| 01:10.47 | sandman13 | open it |
| 01:11.24 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sdegutis about firmware images |
| 01:11.39 | sandman13 | much better |
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| 01:23.37 | asterismo | anyone can help me? i'm trying to enable stunnel for using SSL in ircd-irc2 server on port 7000 |
| 01:23.43 | asterismo | my ircd-irc2 is running in port 6667 |
| 01:23.48 | asterismo | but testing with irssi i cannot connect to localhost in port 7000 |
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| 01:26.59 | somiaj | asterismo: have you checked netstat to be sure stunnel is listening on port 7000? |
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| 01:27.49 | tosted | web flash sound can not play |
| 01:28.08 | tosted | web flash audio music can not play |
| 01:28.41 | asterismo | somiaj, how is the full command? netstat | grep 7000? |
| 01:29.21 | asterismo | somiaj, or netstat | grep stunnel |
| 01:29.25 | somiaj | asterismo: I think you need a -a (for all) or can limit to to tcp, I'd have to look at the man page to remer all teh options |
| 01:29.35 | asterismo | it shows nothing |
| 01:30.56 | asterismo | somiaj, no, it does not shown anything on port 7000 |
| 01:31.04 | asterismo | or stunnel |
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| 01:34.37 | Rackmount | Greetings. Anyone here currently running Alien Arena? The reason I'm asking is because I'm running into some weird behavior with a Slackware Slackbuild that I built this afternoon. The mouse pointer will drift in any direction that I move the mouse, and it will continue moving even if I stop the mouse completely. It behaves a lot like that little ship in Asteroids. That's the only way I can describe it. Anyway, I was thinking this might |
| 01:34.37 | Rackmount | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.38 | somiaj | asterismo: I belive something needs to be listening on that port to connenct to it. Though it might be inetd that does the listening. What have you done to configure stunnel to listen on port 7000? |
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| 01:36.30 | somiaj | Rackmount: I fail to see how this is a #debian question. |
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| 01:38.05 | asterismo | somiaj, this is my stunnel.conf |
| 01:38.06 | asterismo | http://pastebin.com/uDh5mwT8 |
| 01:39.35 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Well I caved and got network manager but I'm still stuck. I tried editing the interfaces file. It was configured to use usb0 (i tethered to do my install) so I changed that to wlan0 and ran ifup wlan0 |
| 01:39.46 | somiaj | asterismo: I wouldn't know stunnel enough to be of much help. It seems to me you haven't proplery configured your daemons to listen on port 7000. I wouldn't know the setup well enough to know where you did this. |
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| 01:40.48 | abrotman | ScottG489: the output from 'dmesg' might help |
| 01:40.50 | asterismo | i'll try ircd-hybrid then |
| 01:40.54 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Not sure if it was successful though. It was outputting 'send_[acket: Network is down' |
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| 01:41.25 | abrotman | ScottG489: nothing about your wifi thing ? |
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| 01:43.43 | asterismo | what dependencies do i need to run "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b" on ircd-hybrid package? |
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| 01:45.07 | themill | asterismo: the things listed in debian/control |
| 01:46.32 | asterismo | themill, Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} |
| 01:46.41 | asterismo | ? |
| 01:47.29 | ScottG489 | abrotman: http://privatepaste.com/251a6f33cf |
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| 01:48.56 | themill | asterismo: You're trying to build the package. |
| 01:49.04 | asterismo | yes |
| 01:49.16 | asterismo | i'm following this guide |
| 01:49.24 | asterismo | http://marvelserv.com/setting-up-ircd-hybrid-and-hybserv-services-with-ssl-on-ubuntu/ |
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| 01:49.26 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Some of that was me plugging in my phone to tether from |
| 01:49.29 | `ryban | good morning :) |
| 01:49.33 | asterismo | because i cannot find this guide for debian |
| 01:49.36 | asterismo | so |
| 01:49.50 | asterismo | but it should work sort |
| 01:49.54 | abrotman | ScottG489: it's telling you that you d'nt have firmware |
| 01:50.19 | themill | asterismo: so if you're building, you perhaps want the build dependencies? |
| 01:50.45 | asterismo | and how i do that? |
| 01:51.06 | asterismo | or maybe simply install dependencies? |
| 01:51.17 | ScottG489 | abrotman: I thought that was maybe just another driver trying to load and fail. The driver I was using was b43 not b43-phy1 |
| 01:51.21 | asterismo | i installed the ircd-hybrid package in debian |
| 01:51.39 | asterismo | and then i downloaded the source and want to make the package and it tells me taht |
| 01:51.40 | asterismo | that |
| 01:51.51 | abrotman | ScottG489: did you install the firmware package |
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| 01:52.09 | ScottG489 | abrotman: doing so right now |
| 01:52.20 | asterismo | themill, http://pastebin.com/N7H1YWHK |
| 01:52.39 | themill | dpkg: tell asterismo about pastebin.com |
| 01:52.41 | themill | asterismo: please look at the debian/control file and think about what you're trying to achieve |
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| 01:53.36 | ScottG489 | abrotman: It doesn't look like the firmware-b43-installer package is available |
| 01:53.51 | asterismo | themill, i do not know what to do with the control file |
| 01:54.21 | themill | read it? |
| 01:55.04 | abrotman | ScottG489: it's probably in non-free |
| 01:55.35 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Looks like I didn't update since I added that stuff... |
| 01:55.54 | asterismo | themill, http://pastebin.com/Rc2wNzuk |
| 01:57.37 | asterismo | themill, that is the control file |
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| 01:58.15 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Talking to you from my new wifi :) |
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| 01:58.33 | ScottG489 | I always downplay the actual errors :/ |
| 01:58.41 | ScottG489 | Thanks for the help though man |
| 01:58.56 | adfas2 | anybody used valerian and/or lemon balm long term? |
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| 02:00.03 | themill | asterismo: Sorry, I have no intention of looking on pastebin.com for anything. And I don't want to see the file in any case, I want you to read it,. |
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| 02:00.24 | abrotman | ScottG489: glad it worked |
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| 02:06.11 | sandman13 | abrotman: where can i get joy splash screen in KDE debian 7? |
| 02:07.02 | asterismo | themill, thanks. I already read it and it tells me nothing |
| 02:07.17 | themill | asterismo: really? |
| 02:07.33 | themill | asterismo: precisely what are you looking for? |
| 02:07.37 | asterismo | dependencies |
| 02:07.43 | abrotman | sandman13: it's in a package |
| 02:07.43 | themill | asterismo: to do what? |
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| 02:07.52 | asterismo | to build the package |
| 02:07.57 | asterismo | i cannot build it |
| 02:07.59 | themill | asterismo: and you don't see that information in that file? |
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| 02:08.15 | asterismo | i see variables |
| 02:08.23 | themill | asterismo: for build dependencies? |
| 02:08.24 | asterismo | Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} |
| 02:08.28 | asterismo | no |
| 02:08.33 | themill | please read the file. |
| 02:08.37 | asterismo | i want to follow this tutorial |
| 02:08.42 | themill | start at the beginning, not half way through |
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| 02:08.54 | asterismo | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b |
| 02:09.43 | themill | asterismo: please. read. that. file. |
| 02:09.48 | themill | really. Start on line 1. |
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| 02:11.56 | ScottG489 | abrotman: I did something and it's broke again lol. That something probably being uninstalling network manager |
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| 02:12.04 | sandman13 | abrotman: apt-cache search joy? am i doing right? |
| 02:12.12 | ScottG489 | I didn't think it was doing anything though. I just brought the connection up with ifup |
| 02:12.47 | abrotman | ScottG489: so put it back |
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| 02:13.06 | ScottG489 | Now when I try to run ifup wlan0 it can't get any leases |
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| 02:13.26 | ScottG489 | abrotman: I'm still not sure that uninstalling nm did it. I just reinstalled it and still no good |
| 02:13.29 | abrotman | sandman13: aptitude show desktop-base |
| 02:13.32 | abrotman | ScottG489: reboot |
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| 02:17.05 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Same thing, I run ifup wlan0 and it tries DHCPDISCOVER a few times and is unsuccessful |
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| 02:17.16 | abrotman | ScottG489: look for errors .. i can't see your logs |
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| 02:20.50 | ScottG489 | abrotman: Something in dmesg about "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready" |
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| 02:30.10 | ScottG489 | ok i think i got it for reals this time... |
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| 02:55.41 | asterismo | i want to follow this tutorial for installing ircd-hybrid with SSL support |
| 02:55.46 | asterismo | from this tutorial |
| 02:55.55 | asterismo | http://marvelserv.com/setting-up-ircd-hybrid-and-hybserv-services-with-ssl-on-ubuntu/ |
| 02:56.00 | themill | !tutorials |
| 02:56.00 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
| 02:56.24 | asterismo | themill, whatever |
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| 02:56.31 | asterismo | i fail in this command |
| 02:56.43 | asterismo | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b |
| 02:56.57 | themill | asterismo: and did you look at debian/control? |
| 02:57.11 | asterismo | do i need to install dependencies first? or some special debian building tool? |
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| 02:57.24 | themill | you need to install the build dependencies |
| 02:58.10 | un214 | too bad there's no way to say install all depends for x but not x |
| 02:58.49 | themill | un214: actually, that's relatively straightforward with an aptitude search pattern |
| 02:59.10 | asterismo | themill, i follow up tutorials because is the only practical way to get things done without spending hours trying to understand the whole problem, i'm not a programmer, i'm just an apprentice and need to get this setup asap, i'm sorry it i don't met your expectations as a debian user whatsoever |
| 02:59.31 | un214 | themill: but it isn't smart enough to apply new depends for X in new upgrades |
| 02:59.31 | themill | asterismo: did you look at debian/control? |
| 03:00.03 | asterismo | themill, and i did read the control file but it tells me nothing that i understand, so maybe you do understand, that is why i pastebin the file for you |
| 03:00.58 | themill | asterismo: perhaps you could make an effort to understand what the file is saying. Really. start at the beginning of the file and you've got your answer before you run out of fingers counting the lines... |
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| 03:02.15 | asterismo | themill, and i do not use the debian pastebin tool because i did not know of its existence even, i use pastebin because i saw a lot of people use it, so i'm sorry. don't open the file and don't help me, it's totally fine |
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| 03:02.49 | themill | asterismo: seriously. read the file. The answer to your question is in the first few lines. |
| 03:03.34 | themill | I am *not* going to just tell you the answer. It's in plain text right in front of you and it's not even in a weird obfuscated format that you can claim is hard to read. |
| 03:07.06 | asterismo | Why not |
| 03:07.25 | asterismo | I missed that line and once my eyes did not see it, did not see forever |
| 03:07.34 | asterismo | you should know better |
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| 03:48.26 | ske14 | Can I boot up Sid in a Virtual Box? |
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| 03:57.32 | asterismo | is there a hybserv package? |
| 03:58.03 | pfdotn | asterismo: You can find out yourself at http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 03:58.23 | pfdotn | ske14: Yes, you can boot Debian GNU/Linux 'sid' in VirtualBox. |
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| 04:00.59 | Kirito | To install PHP 5.5, would you recommend dotdeb or compiling from source? |
| 04:01.08 | Kirito | (or possibly even backports?) |
| 04:01.32 | reimorster | im trying to learn c++11 standard, i have just installed the latest clang. I am a newcomer to linux, so I doesnt have knowledge about tools and options... Can someone tell me a place were i can get started. I have coded a simple hello world (actually a new range-for test using containers) and compiled from terminal.. But i want to use some IDE or at least a better tool to help me coding. |
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| 04:03.56 | themill | Kirito: none of these are particularly simple or attractive options (and yes, this is partly because php itself is an unattractive pita). dotdeb packages are known for their crapness and it's not a trivial backport to make |
| 04:04.45 | Kirito | Yeah. I've had mixed feelings with dotdeb. I like to avoid using it wherever possible. |
| 04:05.06 | Kirito | MariaDB and Nginx provide their own repos, which is wonderful. Though I do compile Nginx from source. |
| 04:05.27 | Kirito | But with PHP, I don't really know what the best route to take is |
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| 04:08.24 | NiLon | I guess how serious you are about it |
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| 04:13.36 | sdegutis_ | Are there any common reasons why a fresh Debian installation would just become a blank black screen after booting up? |
| 04:14.12 | sdegutis_ | It gets past the screen where it shows a few ceremonial "[loading] foobar" lines, but instead of showing my command-line login prompt, it just stays black. |
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| 04:18.51 | pfdotn | sdegutis_: Probably an issue with the framebuffer -- some sort of incompatibility. Try booting by passing the parameter "fb=false" to the kernel. |
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| 04:20.18 | sdegutis_ | Trying now, thanks. |
| 04:20.27 | sdegutis_ | pfdotn: Yep, that did it. |
| 04:20.50 | sdegutis_ | pfdotn: The weird thing is that only happened the second time I booted up, not the first time (right after the install). |
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| 04:21.08 | pfdotn | sdegutis_: Glad you've managed to work around it. Read up on the Linux Framebuffer if you've got time (and want to try and get it working) or just run it as is. |
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| 04:21.35 | sdegutis_ | pfdotn: That sounds intimidating :) |
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| 04:22.05 | pfdotn | sdegutis_: Graphics are very fickle things, I've got one here that'll either hard lock the machine the first time you do something with OpenGL, or it'll just keep on trucking for months without a reboot. Then when you do finally reboot and do something with OpenGL, bang, it'll hang. |
| 04:22.18 | sdegutis_ | Heh, weird. |
| 04:22.20 | pfdotn | s/graphics/graphics cards/ |
| 04:22.29 | sdegutis_ | Yeah, I think installing firmware-iwlwifi from non-free was too much for it. |
| 04:22.37 | sdegutis_ | :D |
| 04:23.00 | pfdotn | sdegutis_: Stranger things have happened. (: Enjoy! |
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| 04:33.20 | sdegutis_ | Woo, just got wifi working! |
| 04:33.29 | comradekingu | congrats :) |
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| 04:35.59 | sdegutis_ | Twice on wiki.debian.org I've seen /boot/grub/menu.lst mentioned, but it doesn't exist for me. |
| 04:36.10 | sdegutis_ | Nor does /etc/grub.conf (also seen mentioned) |
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| 04:39.32 | comradekingu | sdegutis_: I think its changed on grub2 |
| 04:39.39 | sdegutis_ | Ahh. |
| 04:39.48 | sdegutis_ | I had an inkling to check my GRUB version, should have followed it. |
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| 04:43.20 | zanzacar | Can anyone help with this error I am getting? http://pastebin.com/YveBkNgq |
| 04:43.28 | zanzacar | trying to install python-smbus |
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| 04:44.08 | sdegutis_ | zanzacar: Looks like you're just not connected to the internet? |
| 04:44.44 | TJ- | zanzacar: DNS failure; the system is unable to find the IP address for "ftp.us.debian.org" |
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| 04:45.52 | zanzacar | you are correct.... herm |
| 04:46.46 | sdegutis_ | Now to install X! |
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| 04:48.11 | sdegutis_ | (me, not you) |
| 04:48.40 | sdegutis_ | What's with the release naming scheme in Debian? |
| 04:48.56 | bazhang | toy story |
| 04:49.05 | sdegutis_ | Ah! |
| 04:49.27 | bazhang | Ian worked a t Pixar |
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| 04:49.52 | sdegutis_ | TIL |
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| 04:54.28 | sdegutis_ | Woo, dwm and dmenu installed! |
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| 04:55.06 | themill | bazhang: s/Ian/the DPL at the time/ → https://wiki.debian.org/ToyStory |
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| 04:55.41 | bazhang | I was ballpark! |
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| 04:56.40 | sdegutis_ | Aww, you can't run two apt-get installs at the same time. |
| 04:57.03 | viscera | sdegutis_: debian installs stuff system-wide, not self-contained |
| 04:57.10 | bazhang | just give more than one package name |
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| 04:57.20 | sdegutis_ | Right, I know.. it makes sense.. I guess I was just.. hopeful |
| 04:57.50 | sdegutis_ | I already started installing dwb, and I wanted to check my battery because I think it's probably near death, so I went to install upower.. |
| 05:01.43 | TJ- | sdegutis: "cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*/charge_{full,full_design,now}" |
| 05:02.02 | sdegutis_ | Thanks |
| 05:02.09 | sdegutis_ | Wow, "percentage: 0%" |
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| 05:05.33 | sdegutis_ | Time to figure out how to get the framebuffer working on this Thinkpad T60... |
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| 05:15.53 | sdegutis_ | pfdotn: Per your advice, I just installed hwinfo, ran sudo hwinfo --framebuffer, found a nice video mode and its vga code, and added " vga=0x0318" (its code) to /etc/default/grub, and restarted, and it seems to work! |
| 05:16.12 | sdegutis_ | Granted I forgot to run the update-grub command, so it's possibly /just a coincidence/ that it works. |
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| 05:17.03 | sdegutis_ | I can't wait to get an SSD in this thing instead of an HDD. |
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| 05:17.53 | sdegutis_ | Ah yep, doesn't work second time. Fluke. |
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| 05:20.03 | jaami | hi, trying to recover lost grub2, gparted shows /dev/sda1 that is my debian that system should boot from after mbr is fixed and grub2 is recovered |
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| 05:23.08 | TJ- | jaami: something like: "sudo -i" then "mkdir /target && mount /dev/sda1 /target && mount -t proc proc /target/proc && mount -t sysfs sysfs /target/sys && mount -t devtmpfs udev /target/dev && mount -t devpts devpts /target/dev/pts && chroot /target" then "grub-install /dev/sda && update-grub && exit" then "umount /target/{dev/pts,dev,sys,proc,}" then "exit" |
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| 05:23.48 | jaami | ok, TJ- i try that, ] |
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| 05:27.34 | jaami | mount /dev/sda1 /target gives error unknown filesystem ext4 |
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| 05:29.36 | jaami | TJ-, i dont see wher ei made mistake |
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| 05:30.35 | jaami | i am using live debian from usb |
| 05:30.42 | TJ- | jaami: What OS environment is currently running - that sounds like the ext4 driver isn't loaded |
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| 05:31.41 | jaami | i used live debain cd too boot system and then used gparted to see if my original debian still exist and it does exist as shown in gparted as /dev/sda1 |
| 05:31.53 | jaami | live debian usb *** |
| 05:32.18 | jaami | then i mkdir target |
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| 05:32.30 | jaami | then mount /dev/sda1 /target |
| 05:32.41 | TJ- | jaami: I'm wondering if the file-system driver is a module, in which case it may need modprobe-ing, but that seems a bit strange for a core file-system |
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| 05:34.26 | TJ- | jaami: Maybe it's just that it doesn't have the e2fsprogs package installed in the live environment? |
| 05:34.30 | jaami | i was using debian with super grub2 bootable usb. i formatted usb and now using live cd to fix mbr and recover grub2 |
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| 05:35.46 | jaami | TJ-, i am not sure , lets do it, and let me know how to findout if system have e2fsprogs |
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| 05:39.46 | TJ- | jaami: If the Debian environment is running now, all you need is "sudo apt-get install e2fsprogs" |
| 05:40.05 | jaami | ok, yes, its runing, |
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| 05:40.45 | jaami | it says already newer version |
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| 05:41.46 | TJ- | jaami: OK, so must be a kernel issue then. Likely the ext4 module isn't built-in and needs manually loading, or the kernel is too old and doesn't have the ext4 module at all |
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| 05:43.25 | TJ- | jaami: check for the module using "ls /proc/fs/" ... if you see "ext4" then the module is loaded/built-in |
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| 06:58.33 | jaami | hi this ls /proc/fs/ do not show the ext4. i am on debian live and the original debian was ext4 |
| 06:58.43 | jaami | TJ-, im back |
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| 07:02.18 | shawnbon206 | hi |
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| 07:06.41 | jaami | what program you use to make live usb for super grub2 iso |
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| 07:06.59 | jaami | the iso is kybrid |
| 07:07.06 | jaami | hybrid ** |
| 07:07.34 | jaami | live usb = bootable from iso |
| 07:08.00 | bazhang | dd |
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| 07:19.19 | WormFood | I have a new wheezy install, and some of my icons show up as a little red x. What package(s) am I missing? |
| 07:20.38 | grn | hi. After upgrading to the latest unstable X started detecting my monitor resolution incorrectly. It uses 1600x1200 instead of 2560x1440 (WQHD). The latter isn't event listed in the xrandr output. Could someone help me fix that? |
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| 07:21.47 | WormFood | I can't help you, because I'm too jealous that you have a resolution so high |
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| 07:25.35 | somiaj | grn: do you have the old xorg packages you were running around, does downgrading fix the problem (figure you should try to determine if the new xorg is what is causing it to not detect the monintor/graphics card correctly) |
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| 07:26.23 | somiaj | grn: it could also be your graphics drivers. You can force that resolution by writting a ModeLine into a small /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-modeline.conf file, have to look up teh syntax |
| 07:26.43 | grn | somiaj, I noticed that booting the 3.11 kernel fixed the problem. I'm currently on 3.13. |
| 07:28.16 | somiaj | grn: ahh you found the problem. What graphics drivers are you using? |
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| 07:33.38 | grn | somiaj, my GPU is Intel HD Graphics 4600 (integrated with i7), the driver is i915 (as reported by lshw -c display) |
| 07:34.10 | osfd | Hi there, I have a weird issue with my mouse, when I middle click (in iceweasel) on a link, a new tab with clicked link opens in a new tab but in the same time, the tab from where I clicked the link goes to my home page... |
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| 07:34.48 | osfd | the first behaviour is good, but the second is undesired |
| 07:34.54 | Blue1 | did you try it with another browser out of curiousity? |
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| 07:35.16 | somiaj | grn: that use a kvm (I think that is right) driver in the kernel for setting resolutions and detecting them. So the issue is somehwere in the 3.13 kernel driver for that card. You may want to file a bug report that this is happening) |
| 07:35.22 | osfd | this thing does not happen with midori |
| 07:35.57 | Blue1 | remember that iceweasel is really old |
| 07:36.02 | babilen | s/kvm/kms (kernel mode setting, the other is Kernel-based Virtual Machine) |
| 07:36.10 | osfd | iceweasel 29 is quite recent |
| 07:36.13 | Blue1 | you might consider firefox or chrome |
| 07:36.22 | somiaj | oh its kms, sorry that is it...arg..thanks babilen |
| 07:36.29 | jaami | debian cannot be installed without cd-rom? |
| 07:36.32 | babilen | Blue1: http://mozilla.debian.net offers the latest releases, beta and aurora versions. |
| 07:36.40 | somiaj | grn: anyways the 3.11 kernel should be fine until you track down whyt he newer kernel isn't working. |
| 07:36.46 | bazhang | jaami, usb key |
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| 07:37.00 | babilen | jaami: You can boot from the network, install from USB, bootstrap it on another system, ... |
| 07:37.21 | grn | somiaj, when I look at Xorg.log then I can see a bunch of messages from the intel driver. It lists various modelines ("Printing DDC gathered Modelines") and WQHD *is* listed there. |
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| 07:37.24 | somiaj | Blue1: debian recentally changed its policy with security fixes on webbrowers, security now provides a much more recenent version. |
| 07:37.38 | jaami | trying to install from usb but cant go through the cdrom detect setup |
| 07:37.50 | babilen | somiaj: No worries, the only way I remember is by actually remembering "kernel mode setting" and then coming up with the initialism |
| 07:38.00 | Blue1 | okay I nuked iceweasel a long time ago -- seems when I brought up debian the first time it was verson 4 |
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| 07:38.06 | babilen | jaami: How did you create the usb installer? What is going wrong? |
| 07:38.24 | Blue1 | version 24 in the repos |
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| 07:38.36 | somiaj | Blue1: version 24 is in seciruty now. Though that will likely be the version until firefox makes a new esr |
| 07:38.56 | jaami | babilen, i used yumi multiboot |
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| 07:39.09 | Blue1 | this is how I installed ff - http://pkill-9.com/finding-installing-64-bit-firefox-thunderbird-debian/ |
| 07:39.25 | babilen | Blue1: Mozilla switched their versioning scheme and they are now essentially realising a new major version every few weeks. As I said: The latest LTS version are in the normal repos, but you can get the absolute latest releases, beta and aurora versions from http://mozilla.debian.net -- there really is no need for Firefox |
| 07:39.31 | somiaj | Blue1: yea squeeze stabledized with an old version (before the versions started going crazy, not sure why webbrowers release a major version so often). But it use to be the security fixes were backported. I belive that got to be to much work. |
| 07:39.45 | babilen | Blue1: Please, stop advocating FF in here. We don't support it and it really isn't needed. |
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| 07:40.28 | Blue1 | oh sorry |
| 07:41.01 | BotaniCar | FF , would that be the browser that announced having adds on homepage in future versions ? :) |
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| 07:41.36 | babilen | → offtopic |
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| 07:43.02 | somiaj | jaami: do you need a win32 image writter, it is suggested you use something else for the debian install images. |
| 07:43.16 | babilen | jaami: Which operating system are you using to prepare the USB stick? |
| 07:43.38 | babilen | jaami: Haven't we been over this multiple times by now? |
| 07:43.53 | sandman13 | does linux terminal store the output somewhere? |
| 07:44.12 | babilen | sandman13: Your shell would, if you use BASH, look in ~/.bash_history |
| 07:44.16 | shellox | babilen: how do you usually debug when having high load on a webserver |
| 07:44.22 | shellox | i checked network traffic and logfiles |
| 07:44.28 | shellox | but that seems to be fine |
| 07:44.36 | babilen | sandman13: You can also run "history" and work with that output |
| 07:45.02 | babilen | shellox: IO? Hung processes? Why ask me specifically? |
| 07:45.08 | sandman13 | history on bash? babilen |
| 07:45.32 | babilen | sandman13: Yes, run "history" or take a look at ~/.bash_history |
| 07:45.33 | somiaj | babilen: wouldn't that be the input store, the output is just in the memeory buffer unless redirected to a file? |
| 07:45.42 | babilen | right |
| 07:45.52 | babilen | "history" should cover that though. |
| 07:46.22 | sandman13 | babilen: not what i input to the shell but the output that it provides |
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| 07:46.53 | babilen | sandman13: No, you can save the entire history of a session with script(1) though. What are you really trying to do? |
| 07:46.55 | somiaj | sandman13: the output comes in two types either stdout or stderr. You can redirect those to a file and then read the file |
| 07:47.04 | somiaj | sandman13: why do you need a store of the output? |
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| 07:48.58 | sandman13 | somlaj: i was trying to install plymouth but it said something about firmware rtl_nic or something i was too dumb to close the terminal, i want to access that information that's it |
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| 07:50.07 | babilen | sandman13: It was, almost certainly, referring to the firmware-realtek package that you don't have installed. Some realtek NICs or wireless adaptors require firmware for all or part of their functionality. |
| 07:50.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell sandman13 -about firmware-realtek |
| 07:50.36 | osfd | still, this thing is quite painful |
| 07:50.43 | jaami | internet was not working for me |
| 07:50.43 | babilen | Oh, dpkg doesn't know about this. |
| 07:51.07 | babilen | jaami: Yes, we can tell. Which operating system are you preparing your images on? |
| 07:51.21 | sandman13 | i was wondering why i didn't get the message :D |
| 07:51.31 | jaami | i prepared it on win server 2008 R2 |
| 07:51.53 | babilen | sandman13: If you could paste the output of "lspci -nn" we could help you further - alternatively install firmware-realtek from non-free (cf. "/msg dpkg non-free") and be done with it. |
| 07:52.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell jaami about usb install |
| 07:52.14 | somiaj | jaami: http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ -- it is suggest you write the image directally to the usb with that |
| 07:52.38 | babilen | jaami: Please use the win32diskimager linked in the message our bot sent you and referred to earlier by somiaj |
| 07:53.28 | shellox | babilen: sorry |
| 07:53.28 | sandman13 | babilen: i used dmseg instead searching for nic |
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| 07:53.45 | shellox | I've have the issue that the load average goes up to 8 |
| 07:53.48 | jaami | ok |
| 07:53.50 | shellox | and then down to 0.02 |
| 07:53.53 | sandman13 | babilen let me paste that for you |
| 07:53.58 | shellox | without changing anything or increase in traffic |
| 07:54.08 | shellox | and it goes frequently ip and down |
| 07:54.35 | somiaj | shellox: do you see what process is using the cpu? |
| 07:54.44 | shellox | somiaj: yep apache |
| 07:55.01 | shellox | it's an old config and still using prefork |
| 07:55.20 | shellox | but it was running normal for 128 days and just happened this afternoon |
| 07:55.29 | shellox | also it's not on dedicated hardwarew |
| 07:55.34 | shellox | so I'm not sure if that can be related |
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| 07:55.56 | somiaj | anything out the ordinary in the apache logs? |
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| 07:57.28 | shellox | somiaj: nope |
| 07:57.30 | shellox | somiaj: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dc0da4a6ad2e7ac83206 |
| 07:58.18 | somiaj | shellox: I'm all out of ideas. |
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| 07:59.35 | babilen | shellox: It looks as if you ran out of memory in the (recent) past |
| 08:00.36 | sandman13 | babilen: here is the paste of lspci -nn -> http://paste.debian.net/91132/ |
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| 08:02.37 | jaami | clicked on read by mistake, noow downloading debian iso again. stupoid mistake. :( |
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| 08:03.04 | babilen | sandman13: Yeah, you do have a realtek NIC and some of those require firmware. Hence that warning, install firmware-realtek, but I am not sure if your actual NIC does require it. |
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| 08:07.16 | sandman13 | babilen: what does mdprobe mean? |
| 08:07.53 | stoffLer | i have some trouble using proftpd with NAT. the settings for passive and port-range forwarding are done... but still cant connect. is there something else i have to check? |
| 08:08.01 | shellox | babilen: but there are still 500 mb free |
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| 08:09.26 | babilen | shellox: Yes, right now .. hence my "in the past" |
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| 08:09.47 | babilen | sandman13: modprobe is a command to load kernel modules - why do you ask? |
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| 08:11.02 | shellox | babilen: but I can see this happening again |
| 08:11.06 | shellox | that it goes to 8.0 |
| 08:11.11 | shellox | and memory is still available |
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| 08:11.21 | shellox | so I don't really know what causes the issue |
| 08:11.22 | sandman13 | babilen: do i have to use it while installing firmware-realtek? i think i used it while installing firmware for wireless adapter |
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| 08:12.47 | babilen | sandman13: No, not necessarily. You could, if required, unload the currently used kernel module and then reload it again. If you do that it will pick up the newly installed firmware. But as being said: You particular NIC does probably not require firmware, but you still see the warning because you have a "realtek" one. |
| 08:13.27 | shellox | babilen: do you think that can also be a problem with the hypervisor |
| 08:13.27 | armin | hi, does anyone know of a dhcp client that really just quits after (trying to) obtain a lease, or something that just outputs what the dhcp server gives me? what i try to do seems impossible with dhclient. |
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| 08:14.26 | babilen | sandman13: But to show you how you would go about this: 1. Run "lspci -knn | grep -A2 -ie ethernet" -- That should list the kernel module in use by your NIC. 2. modprobe -r $MODULE -- this will unload the kernel module 3. modprobe $MODULE -- this will load it again |
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| 08:14.56 | babilen | sandman13: Once you are done with that you can run, say, "dmesg|tail -n23" to see the messages that have been logged during that process. |
| 08:15.53 | babilen | shellox: It could very well be that the hypervisor was "overbooked" and that other VMs on that used up a lot of memory/cpu -- that should directly influence you though, but there is definitely some interplay |
| 08:16.04 | babilen | shellox: Hang on, I had a nice article about this a while back |
| 08:16.55 | shellox | babilen: the cpu load still goes from 0.02 to 8 every 5 minutes |
| 08:17.04 | shellox | and I can't figure out why |
| 08:17.06 | shellox | config seems ok |
| 08:17.20 | shellox | bad php code is an possible option |
| 08:18.04 | babilen | shellox: And it is simply Apache using it? |
| 08:18.31 | babilen | shellox: https://www.stackdriver.com/understanding-cpu-steal-experiment/ is what I thought of btw |
| 08:19.13 | shellox | apache seems to spawn a lot of processes |
| 08:19.16 | shellox | which suck the cpu |
| 08:19.22 | shellox | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dc0da4a6ad2e7ac83206 |
| 08:19.29 | shellox | but I've already limited memory usage |
| 08:20.07 | babilen | Did you add any new information to that gist? |
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| 08:20.33 | babilen | brb |
| 08:21.03 | shellox | babilen: I didn't |
| 08:21.07 | shellox | it's still like that |
| 08:21.56 | Kirito | Debian 7 is Wheezy, right? |
| 08:22.07 | Kirito | Yes, nevermind |
| 08:22.08 | Kirito | I'm blind |
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| 08:23.16 | sandman13 | babilen: the last message was this eth0: link is not ready |
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| 08:32.08 | shellox | babilen: I'm not really sure what else to try |
| 08:32.41 | troulouliou_dev | hi what is the best option to put in interfaces if i don't want an interfaces to be used at all or managed by network-manzger |
| 08:34.52 | nkuttler | troulouliou_dev: anything, nm will ignore all configured devices |
| 08:35.10 | troulouliou_dev | nkuttler, and if i want to leave it unconfigured ? |
| 08:35.22 | abc1627 | how do I figure out what is public key of http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ upstream mirror? |
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| 08:36.04 | troulouliou_dev | nkuttler, ha ok |
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| 08:50.49 | crickett | i am having troubles getting wifi for debian wheezy gnome |
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| 08:53.50 | Kuba_ | crickett: could you please provide us with more information? I presume you use NetworkManager... Do you get any errors? |
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| 09:00.56 | crickett | sorry got diconnected |
| 09:01.02 | crickett | it isnt picking up my wifi at all only thing it will pick up is ehternet cable and i dont have access to it all the time |
| 09:01.05 | oliva | hi there, I have to run a program that only supports loading files with drag-n-drop. I personally use awesome window manager and I'm a bit allergic to all the gnome/kde software stack. Do you know a lightweight file manager that support drag-n-drop? |
| 09:01.07 | crickett | i have a rtl8188EE and im tracking that i have to go to backports but ive tried to install them and its still a no go |
| 09:01.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell crickett about rtl8188EE |
| 09:02.35 | babilen | crickett: Make sure to install the backported kernel *and* firmware-realtek from backports. You would need a sources.list such as http://paste.debian.net/91150 for that |
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| 09:03.31 | shellox | babilen: looks like a network attack :( |
| 09:04.10 | crickett | i got the 3.12 kernel and ill have to double check but i believe i got the right firmware |
| 09:05.13 | crickett | i gotta also download the items that need to be downloaded through ubuntu which is my only working os at the moment |
| 09:05.18 | crickett | with wifi |
| 09:07.08 | babilen | shellox: Install fail2ban and check for synfloods also - /me has to work now, sorry |
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| 09:15.20 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 09:17.24 | ShapeShifter499 | the following command works when the remote mounted filesystem is ext(2,3,4) but if it's not a ext filesystem the following still works but not every application can read it's contents, why is this? "sshfs lance@192.168.1.3:/media/usb0 /media/sshfs0 -o uid=1000" |
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| 09:39.30 | wafic | Good morning |
| 09:39.46 | rdz | hey.. how long is Squeeze going to be supported? |
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| 09:40.11 | babilen | rdz: We don't know yet |
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| 09:40.56 | babilen | rdz: http://bits.debian.org/2014/03/working-on-squeeze-lts.html |
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| 09:41.31 | wafic | Got a small problem with my server am trying to use the x11 display but not sure what am doing wrong every time i try runing xclock or any other it gives me failed to open the x11 display! am using xming with putting in the virtualbox |
| 09:41.36 | SynrG | there's a difference, however, between being officially supported and having people around on irc to help who still remembers how it works. |
| 09:41.38 | babilen | rdz: May + X though |
| 09:41.46 | SynrG | remember* |
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| 09:42.14 | SynrG | so it's still recommended to upgrade to wheezy |
| 09:42.53 | babilen | +1 |
| 09:43.02 | OpenTokix | upgrade is always recommnded |
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| 09:44.05 | maroloccio | given a system `s' in state `S' (S is defined by the packages that are installed, with information about whether they were specifically requested or installed as a dependency), is there a tool that, given package `p' returns a list of packages `P' with this property: |
| 09:45.11 | maroloccio | each package name does not begin with ^lib and it does not have dependencies to be fulfilled itself if installed alone, not as part of the dependency resolution of `p' |
| 09:45.20 | six86 | Hello. I'm working with a repository server here and I'm wondering how the "binary-all" is working. My understanding was that if I put something there, every client will "see" it. But this isn't the case? How is it properly done? Do I need to create symlinks in every other architecture? |
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| 09:46.03 | maroloccio | of course, "does not have dependencies to be fulfilled itself" is to be read as a function of `S' on `s' |
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| 09:52.17 | wafic | any one? |
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| 10:20.13 | six86 | Hello. I'm working with a repository server here and I'm wondering how the "binary-all" is working. My understanding was that if I put something there, every client will "see" it. But this isn't the case? How is it properly done? Do I need to create symlinks in every other architecture? |
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| 10:46.17 | parcs | crap.. i pressed "open a shell to examine the situation" when dpkg reported that a new config file would be installed over the existing, modified one. then, inside the new shell, i invoked vi to manually merge the existing config file with the new config file. afterwards, i pressed ^Z, thinking it would suspend vi and bring me back to the child shell but it brought me back to the shell that invoked apt-get! |
| 10:46.20 | parcs | now when i press % to continue apt-get, i am not brought back to vi or the child shell. how do i get myself out of this situation cleany? |
| 10:46.43 | gjvc | jobs |
| 10:46.54 | gjvc | %2 |
| 10:46.55 | dselect | It's TO, not '2'. This is not l33t3 sp34k nor is this AOL. |
| 10:47.26 | gjvc | parcsy |
| 10:47.31 | parcs | gjvc: there is only one job according to bash, and that is apt-get |
| 10:47.35 | gjvc | oh |
| 10:47.42 | gjvc | that's a bit dull then |
| 10:47.47 | gjvc | rereads |
| 10:48.13 | six86 | How is the "binary-all" supposed to be used? Symlinking? |
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| 10:49.01 | gjvc | parcs: open another shell and do a ps axf to see the tree of processes |
| 10:49.11 | gjvc | and then send whichever process SIGCONT |
| 10:49.15 | parcs | the process tree currently looks like "bash -> apt-get -> dpkg -> sh -> perl -> bash -> bash -> vi". i pressed ^Z and it brought me all the way back to the first process, bash. |
| 10:49.55 | gjvc | and you know that by the value of $$ ? |
| 10:50.12 | Matt_von_Mises | Hi, I've tried to install Debian Wheezy via USB stick but it doesn't seem to have installed GRUB properly, this includes after I have gone onto the rescue mode and put in "grub-install /dev/sda". Does anyone know what to do in this case? Thanks. |
| 10:50.42 | parcs | gjvc: the process tree is according to htop |
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| 10:50.55 | parcs | gjvc: should i send a SIGCONT to vi? |
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| 10:51.10 | gjvc | is it currently suspended ? |
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| 10:51.19 | gjvc | what's its state ? |
| 10:51.26 | parcs | it's sleeping |
| 10:51.30 | gjvc | not T ? |
| 10:51.36 | parcs | S |
| 10:51.46 | gjvc | then a sigcont is unlikely to help |
| 10:51.56 | parcs | when i pressed ^Z it put apt-get to sleep |
| 10:52.04 | parcs | i think |
| 10:52.11 | gjvc | is apt-get stopped ? |
| 10:52.18 | gjvc | find the process in state T |
| 10:52.24 | gjvc | and send that SIGCONT |
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| 10:52.45 | gjvc | but if vi is stuck there disconnected from a tty you might have to kill it |
| 10:52.54 | parcs | not anymore because continued it with %. now all processes in the tree are sleeping |
| 10:53.05 | gjvc | hm |
| 10:53.12 | gjvc | ok, so we need to get vi to exit |
| 10:53.20 | parcs | i saved my changes before suspending so i can kill vi safely i think |
| 10:53.23 | gjvc | did you save the file to your satisfaction? |
| 10:53.25 | gjvc | right |
| 10:53.30 | gjvc | i would expect so |
| 10:53.45 | gjvc | i would do that really |
| 10:53.45 | parcs | okay, killing |
| 10:54.12 | parcs | sending it multiple SIGTERMs doesn't kill it |
| 10:54.20 | gjvc | -9 |
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| 10:54.38 | ChrisH | SIGTERM will not work with a suspended process |
| 10:54.49 | parcs | doh, i wasn't root. let me try that again |
| 10:55.14 | parcs | yay, it worked! |
| 10:55.28 | parcs | i'm back to the child shell :) |
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| 10:56.10 | parcs | you guys are good |
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| 10:57.09 | gjvc | always glad to be of service |
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| 10:58.42 | parcs | it's not over yet :/ the terminal is acting a bit weird now.. |
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| 11:00.09 | parcs | i am back to the dpkg prompt that is asking me what to do about a modified configuration file, and the menu is not acknowledging my arrow keys properly. instead of changing the selection, arrow keys and stuff are being printed onto the screen. e.g. ^[OB^[OB |
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| 11:01.28 | stack_ | hello, I'm not sure this is the right channel but, is that possible to disable password login for dropbear when that is installed in the initramfs? |
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| 11:01.41 | parcs | f it, gonna kill that process too. |
| 11:03.32 | parcs | looks like that did the trick! apt-get finished successfully. |
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| 11:03.53 | parcs | yay, my machine lives to see another day |
| 11:04.14 | parcs | thank you very much gjvc |
| 11:05.18 | petn-randall | stack_: If it's on a Debian system, it's the right channel. |
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| 11:05.52 | stack_ | petn-randall: yes it is |
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| 11:11.12 | strawberries | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-2523 |
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| 11:12.06 | ShapeShifter499 | ah ok so I should have used the "rw" flag with sshfs |
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| 11:12.28 | ShapeShifter499 | let me know guys because as far as I can see it's working now |
| 11:12.35 | six86 | How is the "binary-all" supposed to be used? Symlinking? |
| 11:12.37 | strawberries | is this a low priority? |
| 11:13.33 | jelly | strawberries: do you use DCCP? |
| 11:13.52 | strawberries | nope |
| 11:14.04 | ShapeShifter499 | hmm I have another issue, I can't seem to start keepass2 from the debian wheezy repo and there are no noticeable errors. It just hangs and never opens anything not even a window. |
| 11:14.21 | ShapeShifter499 | I even tried to start it from the terminal |
| 11:14.24 | jelly | strawberries: if you don't have the module loaded, your machine is not vulnerable |
| 11:14.35 | strawberries | sure, but others might be |
| 11:14.41 | ShapeShifter499 | no errors in terminal either |
| 11:14.49 | ShapeShifter499 | any ideas guys? |
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| 11:15.02 | jelly | strawberries: do you know any person or company using dccp? |
| 11:15.16 | strawberries | i dont |
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| 11:15.33 | jelly | I guess there's not many users thereof, then |
| 11:15.50 | strawberries | i see |
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| 11:16.59 | jelly | know your attack surface before panicking |
| 11:17.35 | strawberries | i wasn't vulnerable anyway, since i don't run that kernel |
| 11:17.42 | strawberries | just wondering why it wasn't fixed |
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| 11:18.27 | jelly | because it's obscure enough, I guess |
| 11:18.46 | strawberries | fair enough |
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| 11:21.07 | jelly | strawberries: count them all: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/linux https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/linux-2.6 |
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| 11:21.28 | strawberries | yeats: i noticed |
| 11:21.31 | strawberries | yea i noticed |
| 11:22.02 | jelly | also look at how many of those unfixed in wheezy actually affect your systems |
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| 11:28.07 | strawberries | jelly: ok, thanks |
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| 11:39.21 | ShapeShifter499 | I guess I'll use keepassx |
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| 11:45.07 | Matt_von_Mises | Can anyone detect a problem with the GRUB installation and how I can fix it from my syslog after install? http://godofgod.co.uk/my_files/syslog |
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| 11:47.21 | Matt_von_Mises | Looks to me like GRUB did install on sda properly, so I don't know what I'm getting a black screen. |
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| 11:49.39 | jonkri | Can I forward requests to foo.example.com to bar.example.com without setting up my own DNS server? Like a hosts file, but something that looks up domain names instead of IP addresses. |
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| 11:51.36 | dontknow | what is the difference between linux-image-amd64 and other kernel that debian installation offer? |
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| 11:52.37 | jhw | dontknow: they only work on the specified processor architecture |
| 11:53.16 | dontknow | jhw, so linux-image-amd64 is for only 64 bit? |
| 11:53.22 | pimpim | y |
| 11:53.34 | jhw | amd and intel 64 bit processors |
| 11:53.38 | six86 | How is the "binary-all" supposed to be used? Symlinking? |
| 11:53.43 | jhw | or: x86_64 |
| 11:53.46 | dontknow | damn. i wish i installed that one |
| 11:53.50 | jhw | which can be others than the named two |
| 11:54.47 | dontknow | jhw, would it replace the current kernel if i installed that one? |
| 11:55.04 | jhw | i would prefer a clean reinstall with the correct kernel |
| 11:55.23 | jhw | since all the software you are running is probably compiled for 32 bit (which I suppose you have installed) |
| 11:55.26 | dontknow | whatever. it works fine tough |
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| 11:56.20 | dontknow | jhw, ? i installed debian using amd64 netinstall image |
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| 11:56.36 | jhw | you should have an amd64 kernel installed then |
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| 11:57.43 | dontknow | wait a sec, my kernel is "linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64" |
| 11:57.54 | dontknow | so it is for 64 bit already |
| 11:57.57 | jhw | well ... where's your problem then? |
| 11:58.34 | dontknow | jhw, there is also a linux-image-amd64 and it says meta package. what is it? |
| 11:58.49 | jhw | it always installs the latest linux-image-$version-amd64 |
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| 11:59.27 | dontknow | jhw, you mean like 3.13 kernel? |
| 11:59.39 | jhw | no, the latest stable which is in the debian repositories |
| 11:59.41 | jhw | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/linux-image-amd64 |
| 12:00.13 | dontknow | so it is better anyway |
| 12:00.50 | dontknow | what kernel you people prefer? |
| 12:02.58 | dontknow | my other question. i managed to auto mount encrypted partiton on boot but e2fsck thing fails because of it is mounted. how can i solve that issue? |
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| 12:03.27 | dontknow | so it gives me error and doesn't mount |
| 12:03.36 | dontknow | doesn't boot* |
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| 12:05.58 | dontknow | and what kernel should be preferred on stable? |
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| 12:11.25 | jelly | the default, unless it does not work |
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| 12:12.49 | dontknow | jelly, you mean "3.2.0-4-amd64" |
| 12:12.51 | dontknow | ? |
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| 12:13.11 | r0x | hi |
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| 12:13.30 | jelly | dontknow: sure, if that's what linux-image-amd64 depends on |
| 12:13.36 | r0x | is there someone that knows how to set an exponential backoff in case of failed login on my machine? |
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| 12:14.15 | nkuttler | r0x: a what? |
| 12:14.19 | dontknow | jelly, i dont get what you are saying |
| 12:14.47 | r0x | nkuttler: i want that after every failed login the user must wait 2,4,8,16,32 seconds... |
| 12:15.11 | nkuttler | r0x: local or network login? |
| 12:15.26 | r0x | network login via ssh |
| 12:15.34 | nkuttler | r0x: sounds like you want fail2ban |
| 12:15.35 | jelly | dontknow: just install linux-image-amd64. If it's installed already, that's it. |
| 12:16.05 | jelly | fail2ban does not do exponential backoff |
| 12:16.16 | nkuttler | aw, if only it was scriptable |
| 12:16.46 | r0x | jelly: do you know something that do it? |
| 12:16.57 | dontknow | jelly, but i installed linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 12:17.04 | nkuttler | in other news, vim doesn't write programs |
| 12:17.08 | jelly | nkuttler: you know what their response to prolonging ban time for repeated offenders is? Run fail2ban on fail2ban logs... |
| 12:17.13 | r0x | fail2ban bans the ip but i simple want to add a delay |
| 12:17.18 | jelly | yo dawg |
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| 12:19.35 | deni | anyone have issue with the newest network-manager from sid? for some reason it stops working when i close my laptops lid (mind you the laptop doesn't suspesnd on lid close, that's on purpose) |
| 12:19.54 | deni | when i open the lid again nm fails to start and is listing the wifi device as unmanaged. |
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| 12:20.16 | deni | this has somesthing to do with 742933 but not sure really |
| 12:20.20 | deni | i'm not running systemd |
| 12:20.22 | babilen | deni: You want #debian-next |
| 12:20.31 | babilen | deni: And try it with systemd |
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| 12:20.50 | deni | babilen: gah...this keeps happening to me...sorry guys. taking it to debian-next |
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| 12:21.09 | babilen | (irc.oftc.net) |
| 12:21.20 | babilen | deni: No problem, see you there! |
| 12:21.51 | jo-erlend | I really like the looks of the new widgets in GTK+ 3.12 and I'd like to start playing with it in Vala. Does Debian have it yet in unstable or something? |
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| 12:22.13 | Samouy | hi there ! i have a little problem . I switch gnome for MATE this last days and now i can't just sleep or hibernate my computer . I have to power off with the on/off button. I'm on Jessie 64bits. thanks for help :-) |
| 12:22.19 | dontknow | man! what kernel do you use on stable? which one should be preferred? |
| 12:23.46 | nkuttler | dontknow: linux-image-<arch> |
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| 12:25.26 | dontknow | nkuttler, i installed "linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64". can i install the "linux-image-amd64" and remove the old one? |
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| 12:26.25 | nkuttler | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 12:26.27 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.13+56~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.13+56; sid: 3.13+56 |
| 12:26.47 | nkuttler | dontknow: that sounds.. like it could work |
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| 12:32.40 | jelly | ,depends linux-image-amd64 --arch amd64 |
| 12:32.41 | judd | Package linux-image-amd64 in wheezy/amd64 -- depends: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64. |
| 12:32.49 | jelly | what |
| 12:33.08 | dontknow | i installed the linux-image-amd64. and used "update-initramfs -u" but it still uses old kernel |
| 12:33.51 | blaubarschbube | hi. i need to restrict access to a windows share through an iptables firewall to lets say specific IPs or Mac adresses. any suggestions how to prevent spoofing attacks? |
| 12:34.17 | nkuttler | dontknow: that's beacuse linux-image-amd64 is 3.2.0-4 |
| 12:35.04 | jelly | dontknow: indeed, that is because the linux-image-amd64 at present time depends on 3.2.0-4-amd64 ... in other words, linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 is the "latest" |
| 12:35.05 | nkuttler | dontknow: so to answer your initial question, that's the preferred kernel |
| 12:35.38 | dontknow | so i installed both packages. is it ok now? |
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| 12:37.41 | jelly | yes. |
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| 12:38.05 | dontknow | debian is confusing |
| 12:39.18 | jelly | oh, you haven't seen anything yet! |
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| 12:39.50 | babilen | dontknow: Which kernel do you want? |
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| 12:40.13 | dontknow | babilen, i want to use stable one |
| 12:40.26 | babilen | dontknow: You are by the look of things |
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| 12:41.15 | dontknow | my confusion is that there is two kernel package. one of them is metapackage |
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| 12:42.39 | babilen | dontknow: Are you still confused as to why that is? |
| 12:42.55 | dontknow | babilen, yes! |
| 12:43.25 | dontknow | linux-image-amd64 is something like a patch? |
| 12:43.41 | The_Observer | Was krandrtray removed from debian ? |
| 12:44.10 | babilen | dontknow: No. There is a specific package to allow users to install that particular kernel, namely linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 at this point in time |
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| 12:44.48 | babilen | dontknow: In addition to that we also offer a metapackage, linux-image-amd64, that depends on the *latest* kernel in that release. (also linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64) |
| 12:45.26 | dontknow | babilen, so why is it still 3.2.0-4 and not 3.2.0-86. something like that? |
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| 12:45.39 | babilen | dontknow: This is important once you upgrade to a new release. If you have the metapackage installed it will automatically pull in the new kernel in that release while the specific package won't do that. |
| 12:45.49 | babilen | dpkg: tell dontknow about kernel abi |
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| 12:46.35 | dontknow | babilen, ok. so i am fine with both packages installed |
| 12:47.07 | dontknow | babilen, are you a developer? |
| 12:47.08 | babilen | dontknow: Yes, you might have to remove old kernels you no longer need after upgrades, but that would be about it. |
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| 12:47.45 | babilen | dontknow: I am a maintainer in Debian, a developer at home and a sysad by trade |
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| 12:51.03 | dontknow | babilen, i have managed to automount encrypted partition using crypttab but e2fsck gives me error says "failed because partition mounted" and doesn't boot |
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| 13:01.29 | six86 | When a debian repository is defined, how is differentiated between stable and unstable? Only via the version? |
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| 13:10.01 | petn-randall | six86: On the repository level, each release has a defined list of packages is contains. This is defined via package name and version. |
| 13:10.09 | ChrisH | I am now using my Laptop in a docking station with an USB connected keyboard. In BIOS and GRUB the USB keyboard is working, during bootup while the encryption key is needed it does not work. I assume the needed module is not part of the initrd. Is that the correct assumption? If yes what module must I add? If no, where to check then? |
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| 13:11.56 | petn-randall | ChrisH: I share the same assumption. If you boot through (with a PS/2 keyboard?), does the USB one work fine? |
| 13:12.47 | slidesinger-ss | in restore mode: Two issues: /boot was corrupted and the kernel was not loading. I fixed that by marking a couple of clusters as bad and formatting the partition. Now I need to reinstall the kernel and solve the mount: special device UUID= does not exist message. This leads to another question, is there an advantage to the UUID over /dev/sda1? How do I reinstall a stock kernel image from rescue? |
| 13:13.15 | six86 | petn-randall: so there's no automatically way to determine whats stable and what's not? That made manually? |
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| 13:14.36 | ChrisH | petn-randall: Yes USB Keyboard does work later, I use the Laptop keyboard to type in the key. |
| 13:14.46 | abrotman | dpkg: tell six86 about meaning of stable |
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| 13:17.14 | six86 | abrotman: I think I know what stable means. The question is how it is managed. Maybe there is a convention to say there's a -b for beta or something in the version. |
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| 13:17.38 | abrotman | six86: no, it's called stable. Which part of what the bot said is confusing? |
| 13:17.50 | abrotman | Do you understand how Debian works, and how "stable" is declared? |
| 13:17.59 | petn-randall | six86: I think I could answer the question better if I knew what you're trying to aim at. Are you trying to mirror the Debian stable repository? |
| 13:19.00 | petn-randall | ChrisH: IIRC it should be enough to figure out which module is used, and add it to /etc/modules, then run 'update-initramfs -k all -u'. I'm guessing the module you need is 'usbhid'. |
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| 13:19.56 | ChrisH | petn-randall: thanks, sounds fine. I will test that tomorrow. |
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| 13:20.52 | six86 | petn-randall: Actually we have an own repository set up and I try to understand why there are things like they are. I think that the debian way is clever and the way it's done here is not... |
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| 13:21.30 | six86 | here the deb files are dropped into the dist folders and the repository is build out of them |
| 13:21.41 | shahri | hi, I just upgraded network-manager-gnome and ran into problems because it now requires users to be a part of the netdev group, which it didn't previously as far as I'm aware. it works now, but took me ages to figure out. also the netdev group had not been created on my system for some reason. dpkg-reconfigure network-manager and adding myself to netdev fixed the problem, but my question is: is there any mechanism to inform users of such changes so th |
| 13:21.41 | shahri | ey don't have to search around for hours? if you know what I mean |
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| 13:24.03 | abrotman | shahri: likely in the changelog or NEWS file .. I had the same issue, can't recall where I found the fix |
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| 13:25.30 | dp | is there a way to see what package brought in package X? |
| 13:25.44 | ChrisH | aptitude why X |
| 13:25.53 | SynrG | maybe |
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| 13:26.16 | SynrG | it lists the strongest reason. and only shows one. |
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| 13:27.01 | SynrG | if you remove a reason for a package to be there and yet it's still not subject to autoremoval, repeat the command again to find the next reason why |
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| 13:27.35 | Samouy | Hi , i'm running on MATE and i can't suspend/hibernate my computer since I've changed my DE. Is that an known issue ? |
| 13:28.14 | dp | hrm. so I'm trying to understand why mysql is installed on this box. Here's the final reason: http://paste2.org/dJIZvEOz. any thoughts? |
| 13:28.26 | SynrG | Samouy: are you using wheezy? |
| 13:28.32 | Samouy | SynrG, Jessie |
| 13:28.48 | SynrG | Samouy: see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net ... |
| 13:29.02 | SynrG | and yeah, jessie currently has some suspend/hibernate issues. and it's not just mate |
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| 13:29.40 | SynrG | Samouy: are you using debian's mate packages or third-party? |
| 13:30.01 | SynrG | if the latter, you really need to see #mate for help |
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| 13:31.16 | ChrisH | SynrG: that explains much... hibernate and wakeup works, suspend work, until I try to wake up my system :) Do you know by chance if thats kernel or pm-tools/userland related? |
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| 13:32.05 | six86 | abrotman: I think I don't know how exactly debian defines a _package_ as stable. So who defines and when is defined what version of a package goes into stable? And before the release is each package maintaienr saying: take our package with version x.y.z? |
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| 13:33.18 | abrotman | six86: Packages go through unstable/testing in an effort to remove Release Critical bugs. When all of "stable+1" (currently Jessie) reaches 0 RC bugs, the entire distro is declared as "Stable" |
| 13:33.56 | jelly | six86: basically, anything not completely broken is "stable" |
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| 13:34.48 | Samouy | SynrG, Thanks for the answer |
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| 13:35.02 | abrotman | six86: so the package version may not be relevant, as Debian patches/fixes much code in that revision. We backport many fixes, we send many fixes upstream that they incorporate into later releases. |
| 13:35.29 | ChrisH | jelly: Win7 ? :) |
| 13:36.03 | jelly | ChrisH: were it DFSG compliant and packaged, sure |
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| 13:37.22 | SynrG | ChrisH: want to join #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net and discuss more? you're running jessie too, i assume |
| 13:37.50 | six86 | abrotman: thanks. How is the transition made on the repository level? Are the repositories just renamed? |
| 13:37.52 | shahri | abrotman, regarding the network-manager thing: for some packages, when dpkg configures them, you get a prompt on specifics like this. would that be an option here? i.e. that when you install network-manager, it asks you which users to add to netdev? then people wouldn't run into problems when upgrading... |
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| 13:38.35 | ChrisH | SynrG: I am running old-stable, stable, testing on different systems. And a simple answer like: dunno, Kernel, userland would be enough. No discussion needed. |
| 13:38.43 | abrotman | shahri: you could file a bug on the package |
| 13:39.02 | SynrG | ChrisH: ah, different issue. so i don't know how to answer |
| 13:39.10 | SynrG | ChrisH: multiple layers are involved ... |
| 13:39.19 | abrotman | six86: when there are no RC bugs in the unstable package (and it's been 2-10 days), the package flows from unstable to testing (there are other criteria, but that is the basics) |
| 13:39.21 | SynrG | the problematic stuff in jessie relates to the session laeyr |
| 13:39.27 | six86 | And i have one further question: If a package has architecture "all" it is meant to be installed on all architectures. In our repository here there's something like "binary-all/package-common_all.deb" and "binary-amd64/package_amd64.deb", but apt-get never sees the package in all. |
| 13:39.30 | SynrG | it's *not* the lower-level stuff you mentioned |
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| 13:39.57 | SynrG | ChrisH: so it's not a matter of not knowing. and no, there aren't simple answers :) |
| 13:40.17 | six86 | abrotman: what does flows technically mean? is it copied over somewhere? Is a list edited manualy with the version (because the deb itself is in the pool before?) |
| 13:40.29 | jelly | six86: what tools do you use to create and manage the repository? |
| 13:40.40 | daswort | hi i try to install a server with an i210 intel gigabit ethernet card. the stable release has 3.2 as kernel. Is there an image that contains backport, so a newer kernel is available ? |
| 13:40.59 | SynrG | ChrisH: the kernel does have a facility to suspend and hibernate. the immediate layer above is pm-utils. but above that the DEs have session management that interacts with Consolekit use dbus to zing around messages to do things like suspend/hibernate. |
| 13:40.59 | abrotman | six86: there's a process that tells the system to copy it to "testing" |
| 13:41.19 | six86 | jelly: there is a self made script that uses dpkg-scanpackages |
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| 13:41.37 | b42d | muricans even believe in professional wrestling is real |
| 13:42.24 | jelly | six86: why don't you just link all the Arch: all packages into every binary-$ARCH repo? |
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| 13:42.35 | six86 | abrotman: Are there different deb package pools for testing and stable? I tried to get an idea of the process, but i couldn't get a good source, sorry for the maybe dumb questions... |
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| 13:42.59 | abrotman | six86: are you actually managing different repositories? |
| 13:43.12 | jelly | or use a saner tool, maybe reprepro |
| 13:43.19 | six86 | jelly: that's what i tried, but the client don't "see" them either, like it's not there. So this should actually work? |
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| 13:44.11 | six86 | abrotman: we have one repository with one testing dist at the moment. |
| 13:44.17 | jelly | six86: do they get listed in generated Packages file(s)? |
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| 13:44.53 | six86 | jelly: yes with architecture all. |
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| 13:56.42 | jmelis | how do I mark a package in a 'control' file as obsolete? Using 'Replaces'? |
| 13:58.55 | SynrG | jmelis: it's reall a #debian-mentors @ irc.oftc.net question, but yes. and is often paired with Conflicts |
| 13:58.59 | SynrG | really* |
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| 13:59.25 | SynrG | but you want to read debian-policy which explains what Replaces really *means* |
| 13:59.38 | SynrG | because it has a specific meaning which may or may not actually match your use case |
| 13:59.53 | SynrG | and followup with #debian-mentors :) |
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| 13:59.58 | SynrG | gotta scoot. later |
| 14:00.37 | jmelis | SynrG: thanks :) |
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| 14:05.03 | Rug | I am having an odd problem with VLAN's. I have a VLAN setup as eth0.2 (in /etc/network/interfaces) If I activate/deactivate it using ifup/ifdown it works as desired, however if I reboot the network is DOA (I can't ping out with eth0, etc..) until I ifdown eth0.2. If I then use ifup eth0.2 everything works as desired |
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| 14:10.36 | Rug | It looks like if I leave the settings in /network/interfaces I'm bjorked, but if I script it afterwards, it'll be fine. |
| 14:10.38 | jelly | Rug: pastebin your whole interfaces file, please, and if possible output of "ip r" and "ip a" and "ip l" after a reboot |
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| 14:10.50 | Rug | jelly: ok one sec. |
| 14:10.53 | jelly | Rug: is this a physical machine? |
| 14:11.07 | Rug | jelly: no, virtualbox. |
| 14:11.27 | jelly | Rug: which emulated network card is used? |
| 14:11.29 | sdegutis | Aw, Debian's dwb is missing dwbem. |
| 14:12.06 | Rug | jelly: let me check and get back to you. (it's actually running on a headless erver, so give me a minute.) |
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| 14:14.45 | jaybe | hi. i'm trying to remove a package and receiving an unexpected error. not sure how to work around. "subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 10" |
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| 14:19.50 | pclov3r | yeah i found the problem i was alking about hte other day |
| 14:20.07 | pclov3r | during the installer it's using the wrong UUID in grub.cfg |
| 14:20.09 | sdegutis | Installing Debian on my new Dell Latitude D520 |
| 14:20.54 | pclov3r | best way to correct that? |
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| 14:22.56 | stoffLer | my debian isnt responding to internet IPs for services I use a port forwarding. Any idea what this could be? |
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| 14:23.05 | jaybe | fyi/update, re: package uninstall issue. the issue was the package' post-remove script. i backed up, then remove the post-install script and things worked out. i.e. /var/lib/dpkg/info/package-name.postrm |
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| 14:24.10 | pclov3r | http://iesucks.net/screencap/2014-04-02_0724.png |
| 14:24.29 | pclov3r | http://iesucks.net/screencap/2014-04-02_0724_001.png |
| 14:24.33 | pclov3r | better |
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| 14:24.50 | pclov3r | it should be using /dev/sda2 not /dev/sda4 |
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| 14:26.15 | pclov3r | any ideas? |
| 14:26.36 | Rug | Jelly: the virtual nic being used is: m79C973, the default Should I switch it to one of the Intel NICs? |
| 14:26.36 | petn-randall | jaybe: Hard to say if this was the right thing to do since you didn't provide the actual error nor the package name. |
| 14:27.08 | jaybe | petn-randall, i provided the error i received |
| 14:27.16 | jelly | Rug: please do, let's see what happens |
| 14:27.26 | Rug | jelly: sorry that should be: Am79C973. ok give me a second. |
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| 14:27.42 | jelly | has no clue what Am79C973 is or whether it does 802.1Q |
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| 14:28.08 | petn-randall | jaybe: And the package name? |
| 14:28.23 | jaybe | petn-randall, it was roundcube-core |
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| 14:29.09 | petn-randall | !tell jaybe about bat |
| 14:29.41 | petn-randall | jaybe: Check the query the bot sent you, can you paste all the info to http://paste.debian.net? |
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| 14:31.40 | ichthys | I have my Debian machine joined to my AD domain. How to I allow only root and the AD users in the "Domain Admins" group access to login to my debian machine? |
| 14:31.56 | retrosenator | I have a library file, how do I figure out what package it's in? |
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| 14:32.20 | petn-randall | retrosenator: dlocate <file>, you might need to install dlocate first. |
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| 14:32.25 | jaybe | petn-randall, thanks. i could have, but i've since solved the issue. some details: was attempting to build the latest roundcube from sid (apt-get source -b roundcube). removal command: (apt-get remove roundcube) (also attempted with aptitude front-end). errors on following line: |
| 14:32.38 | jaybe | petn-randall: 1) subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 10 ... 2) E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 14:32.51 | retrosenator | petn-randall: thanks |
| 14:33.03 | petn-randall | retrosenator: the slower variant is 'dpkg -S <file>'. |
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| 14:33.23 | retrosenator | petn-randall: it's like find vs locate? |
| 14:33.35 | petn-randall | retrosenator: Similar, yes. |
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| 14:33.56 | ragusource | hey guys, I'm getting this error on boot: [GLib-GObject] invalid (NULL) pointer instance |
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| 14:35.45 | Rug | jelly: changing nictypes didn't help. Same situation. Let me gather all the data that was asked for earlier and pastebin it. |
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| 14:38.52 | jelly | Rug: on a physical machine, some drivers don't work well with VLANs if they're brought up before the link is up, workaround: http://paste.debian.net/91212/ |
| 14:39.28 | pclov3r | well i was talking in ##linux grub-mkconfig is using the wrong uuid |
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| 14:39.55 | Rug | jelly: thanks |
| 14:40.11 | Rug | I'll try that. |
| 14:43.04 | elfranne | I am trying to copy a big file (>400GB) with rsync but it failed at 64GB ,twice. It is not a disk space issue (i think ?) , partition used only for that file (nearly only a couple of more files), ext 4, 2TB usb disk |
| 14:43.36 | andry | hm, ive been using intel graphics for years now .. but i want to switch to either amd or nvidia for performance .. so. whos got the better drivers/performance in linux? |
| 14:43.53 | Rug | elfranne: what file-system are you copying onto? |
| 14:43.53 | andry | a few years back, amd/ati was garbage |
| 14:44.47 | elfranne | Rug, ext4 |
| 14:45.14 | Rug | elfranne: ok that's not the problem |
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| 14:48.11 | shellox | hi |
| 14:48.20 | shellox | is anyone good with logrotate |
| 14:48.21 | Rug | elfranne: here is a quasi-simple test. to atleast help you track down where the problem might be. Create a 64GB file using /dev/zero then rsync that using compression (to make the trasnfer very fast) |
| 14:48.33 | shellox | I need some help with keeping logfiles just for one day |
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| 14:49.49 | shellox | i got that https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e57f7ecbbb6725bc44ac |
| 14:50.15 | shellox | does this look ok for what i want? |
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| 14:53.17 | Pocahantass | hi my darlings |
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| 14:56.18 | elfranne | Rug, i am trying that ... but it still takes an hour to transfer (usb is slow). I ll see how it turn out |
| 14:56.32 | ichthys | What is the best way to restrict which Active Directory users can log into a Debian server? (i would like to restrict to to a certain AD group and the root user) |
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| 15:01.07 | Rug | elfranne: sorry I thought it would be faster. Did you use the 'z' flag on rsync? |
| 15:01.27 | xparanoik | could someone here kindly explain the difference between a debian net-install with just SSH and a fresh install of ubuntu-server ? |
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| 15:04.00 | sanchezz--- | I'm remote connected to another computer on the same network... is there a way to access the pc where desktop sharing crashed... or is ssh not enabled by default? |
| 15:04.31 | sanchezz--- | I can't think of any other way to restart the pid |
| 15:05.09 | xparanoik | you mean accessing someone else's session on the same machine via SSH ? |
| 15:05.22 | sanchezz--- | yeah I just need to access another computer at home for work purposes |
| 15:05.27 | sanchezz--- | sadly desktop sharing crashed |
| 15:05.31 | sanchezz--- | =\ |
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| 15:06.17 | sanchezz--- | I have access to a winblows computer behind the same router |
| 15:06.22 | sanchezz--- | via logmein |
| 15:06.54 | xparanoik | not sure about the crashing there... but you can read 'man screen' and see if you can get something to work |
| 15:06.56 | sanchezz--- | I should of enabled ssh bleh |
| 15:07.43 | xparanoik | can'y tou still control the host over the logmein site? without even using the remote desktop? |
| 15:07.54 | xparanoik | last time i used logmein I think i could do tha |
| 15:07.56 | xparanoik | that* |
| 15:08.14 | sanchezz--- | logmein is being used to access the windows computer on the same network |
| 15:08.19 | sanchezz--- | not the debian box i need to access |
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| 15:08.37 | jhutchins | sanchezz---: So you had vnc or rdp running on the system, but not ssh? |
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| 15:08.46 | sanchezz--- | yeah I guess it's time to enable that hah |
| 15:09.39 | jhutchins | sanchezz---: Yeah, there's a lot you don't need a GUI for that can be done easily over ssh. |
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| 15:11.12 | jhutchins | sanchezz---: You can also run individual GUI applications over ssh without having to share a desktop. |
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| 15:12.42 | sanchezz--- | yeah I'm familiar with SSH this was just a huge mistake |
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| 15:22.07 | MrNutz | Hello, |
| 15:22.07 | MrNutz | I have a question about udev behaviour. |
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| 15:22.47 | parcs | ; |
| 15:23.50 | MrNutz | I have two USB devices connected to my system (1 GPS & 1 3G MODEM). |
| 15:23.50 | MrNutz | The Modem have 3 nodes in the /dev (ttyUSBx, ttyUSBy, ttyUSBz), and the GPS have one node called ttyUSBn (please see the same root (ttyUSBxx) for both devices). |
| 15:23.50 | MrNutz | Depending if the system boots from a cold or hot start, devices sets-up at different time, thus leading to have the nodes numbers (x,y,z & n) varying... |
| 15:23.50 | MrNutz | So I don't know who is who in the /dev... |
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| 15:24.58 | MrNutz | I have tried to use udev persistant rules : With a standard udev rule, I can name each of my nodes as I want (say ttyMODEMx,y,z & ttyGPSn), but the node numbering depends of the initial ttyUSBxx value (e.g. ttuUSB1 will be ttyMODEM1). This behaviour doesn't fills my requirement as the device name can vary, I need my device to always have the same name. |
| 15:25.46 | MrNutz | So, I've made a script that counts (and return) the number of times it has been called, in order to have a consistant device numbering (eg. ttyMODEM0, 1, 2). Udev rules allows to call an external program or script and using the output of this called part to name the device. And so... when using this trick I only have one device node, named ttyMODEM2 (so the script seems to work) :( |
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| 15:26.40 | MrNutz | So... If any udev guru can have a look :) |
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| 15:29.54 | sdegutis | Is it possible to get a newer version of a program than the one the built-in package comes with? i.e. Emacs 24.3 instead of Emacs 23.4 |
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| 15:41.05 | sanchezz---- | jhutchins: Once I install the package ssh\ssd can I just login with my credentials or is there anything else I should do to secure ssh? |
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| 15:41.43 | sanchezz---- | I'm only enabling ssh for a week or so on the box anyway |
| 15:41.58 | wols | use key based logins only if you want. and install fail2ban |
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| 15:42.21 | Synthead | is there a less-hacky way than dpkg -l zabbix-agent | grep '^ii zabbix-agent ' to see if a package is installed? |
| 15:42.25 | sanchezz---- | fail2ban blacklists ips? |
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| 15:43.10 | sanchezz---- | done installed thanks |
| 15:43.31 | sanchezz---- | wols: what port do I need to open for ssh? |
| 15:43.34 | sanchezz---- | is it 22? |
| 15:43.41 | somiaj | Synthead: why are you adding the grep in there, 'dpkg -l zabbix-agent' should be enough |
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| 15:44.01 | somiaj | Synthead: or are you wanting something in a script to check? |
| 15:44.13 | inbo | Does anyone know roughly how long it takes for a new kernel release to make it into Debian? (Specifically, I'm looking for 3.14 in Wheezy backports, but a generic answer for kernel releases in general and unstable would be fine, I'm really just looking for some estimate.) |
| 15:44.23 | Synthead | somiaj: what about if the package is in "rc" status? it'll still show up and return an exit status 0 |
| 15:44.39 | Synthead | somiaj: yes, it's in a script |
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| 15:44.50 | somiaj | sanchezz----: port 22 is the default ssh port, you can change this thought |
| 15:45.09 | somiaj | Synthead: what is the purpose of this script (figure I'd see what it is you are really tyring to do, maybe there is a nicer way to go about it) |
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| 15:45.27 | Synthead | somiaj: if a package isn't installed, install it |
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| 15:45.42 | LtL | sanchezz----: yes it's port 22 but you don't need to 'open' it, unless your behind a router, then you might want port forwarding. also you may want to disallow root logins |
| 15:45.43 | somiaj | inbo: the generic answer is 'when it is ready', as for backports, takes about 10 days or more for a kernel to go from sid to testing, then another week or so until a backport is made. |
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| 15:46.24 | sanchezz---- | somiaj sounds like a good idea to avoid port scanning |
| 15:46.29 | sanchezz---- | *default |
| 15:46.46 | somiaj | sanchezz----: if they scan all your ports they will still find it, but yes some people like to move it off the default port. |
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| 15:47.03 | Overand | I'm wondering what's out there for "ISP / webhosting control panels" that would be suitable for an organization's own use - that is, it wouldn't need to be able to be suuuper pretty for 'customer facing' stuff - but user friendly enough for non-linux-admins to be able to add new web domains, and such. (Ideally, without breaking the ability to manually edit config files as well) |
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| 15:48.01 | somiaj | Synthead: I think there should be a better way to go about this. One way might just be ask apt to install the package list you want for you, or use dpkg --set-selections and set all the packages you want as installed then update your system to match that. |
| 15:48.10 | Overand | (and that plays nice with debian, obviously) |
| 15:48.21 | Synthead | somiaj: I'm using a local .deb package |
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| 15:51.45 | somiaj | Synthead: I think the method you are doing is just fine. You could also do 'dpkg --get-selections zabbix-agent | grep "installed"' |
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| 15:51.58 | moldy | hi |
| 15:52.09 | slidesinger-ss | OK, update: I've squared away the UUID issue, I've installed a kernel on the reformatted /boot partition, but grub is going to grub rescue. With separate /boot and / partitions, the root = parameter should point to sda2 and vmlinuz/initrd need to point to sda1, correct? |
| 15:52.15 | moldy | i found libmysql-diff-perl -- but where it the mysqldiff command line tool? |
| 15:52.47 | somiaj | Synthead: some other suggestions I see is look for the binary the package provides, if zabbix as a test binary, maybe run 'zabbix -v' just to print the version of the install zabbix wich of course will error out if it not isntalled. |
| 15:52.53 | Synthead | somiaj: is there a way I can make dpkg give an exit status of zero or non-zero if the package is in an "ii" state or not (without gnu tools)? |
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| 15:53.15 | Synthead | somiaj: that wouldn't test if dpkg installed it or not, though |
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| 15:53.27 | somiaj | Synthead: you could make aptitude do it, but it will be a lot slower because aptitude takes longer to load teh database |
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| 15:53.55 | somiaj | Synthead: aptitude search '?name(^zabbix-agent$)~i' will only return something if a package by that name is installed |
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| 15:55.43 | somiaj | Synthead: found another suggestion, use dpkg to check if it owns the zabbix binary, 'dpkg -S /path/to/zabbix' -- that will only return something if dpkg installed that binary |
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| 15:58.39 | inbo | somiaj: Ok, so I definitely didn't want the "generic answer", then since I could have come up with that one myself! :) Perhaps "estimate" was my better word choice, then. Thanks for the progression timeline estimates, very helpful, but do you happen to have a guesstimate for how long it will take to get into sid, then just based on historic averages or experience? |
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| 15:59.18 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 15:59.20 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.14-rc7-686-pae (3.14~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.7-1); jessie: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.7-1); wheezy-backports: 3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.13.5-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.54-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
| 16:00.48 | somiaj | inbo: since it has only recntally been released give a week for it to make it into sid. Then 2 weeks into jessie, then a week into backports. Maybe a month. What is it about the 3.14 kernel that you need that you can't do with the 3.13 kernel already provided? |
| 16:01.04 | somiaj | inbo: again these are mostly just made up numbers, when it is ready is the answer. |
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| 16:04.09 | jhutchins | inbo: There also has to be a reason to backport a kernel, just because a new version exists isn't a reason. |
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| 16:05.43 | inbo | somiaj: made up numbers are fine, as long as they have some basis in likeliness. :) My motherboard/CPU has some issues that seem like they might get better with the newer kernel (support for it in general seems to be improved, anyway) |
| 16:06.42 | inbo | jhutchins: Hm, bummer. When I saw 3.13 was backported, I was hoping it was fairly standard procedure to keep kernels current in backports, though I know that that's certainly not the rule in general for packages. |
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| 16:07.52 | philipp__ | hi, has anyone reported problems with openvpn having a very limited throughput by low cpu usage? |
| 16:08.17 | jhutchins | inbo: As with most distribution, once stable is released the goal is for the major version of the kernel to stay the same. |
| 16:08.48 | jhutchins | !bugs |
| 16:08.51 | dpkg | error: could not parse |
| 16:09.32 | inbo | somiaj: jhutchins: I was actually going to install jessie originally, but the installer wasn't detecting missing non-free firmware at the time (Maybe still isn't? I'll check the page) and I needed it for networking, so I had to go with stable, which seemed okay since the kernel was the same anyway. |
| 16:10.40 | inbo | jhutchins: Yeah, I know, but backports are clearly different based on 3.13 being backported. Anyway, I know backports aren't always "current", but I thought it might be different for the kernel since it happened to be current when I looked. |
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| 16:10.53 | jhutchins | inbo: The installer is typically one of the last components of a new release to be updated, since the final state of what it's installing isn't known until at least the freeze. The standard way of setting up a testing environment is to install stable (a second copy as a dual boot), then upgrade it to testing. |
| 16:11.05 | inbo | jhutchins: And I don't like constant kernel updates either, but I just need a newer one for this hardware, seemingly. |
| 16:11.30 | jhutchins | inbo: Do you have a specific errata or changelog that addresses your hardware? |
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| 16:12.38 | inbo | jhutchins: Ok, I understand if that's the standard way. However, at the time, the testing page said that the best way was to use the alpha jessie installer. However, I tried and failed to use the jessie alpha installer, later noticing that there was an errata for the installer that made it not work for me. |
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| 16:13.06 | Synthead | why does dpkg -l display a "1:" before the versions of some installed packages? |
| 16:13.38 | jhutchins | Synthead: Do you have multiarch enabled? |
| 16:14.06 | Synthead | jhutchins: I'm not sure, why? |
| 16:14.17 | jhutchins | Synthead: Nevermind, I don't, and mine does that too. |
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| 16:14.52 | inbo | jhutchins: No, just general ideas from Phoronix benchmarking articles that my APU is much better supported in newer kernel revisions. Don't know if it will solve my biggest current issue, which is HDMI audio related, but it seems like it might? Especially since I'm having trouble with both ALSA (no sound, and the device doesn't seem to be properly recognized) and PulseAudio (crackling sounds coming through on top of any audio). |
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| 16:15.21 | philipp__ | hi, has anyone reported problems with openvpn having a very limited throughput by low cpu usage? |
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| 16:16.31 | armenb | hello...is anyone here aware of threading or high-performance networking issues that generally make users/admins lean away from ubuntu and towards debian? |
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| 16:17.09 | wols | considering both use the same kernel (Linux), your assertion is kind of doubtful armenb |
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| 16:17.25 | wols | philipp__: bugs.debian.org is the place to check, not here |
| 16:17.40 | jhutchins | philipp__: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 16:18.09 | armenb | wols: that's what I would think too. But we're dealing with a piece of software that runs into "issues" on our ubuntu 12.04 LTS systems, and not our Debian 7 systems |
| 16:18.14 | _1_chopi4453 | eres chica |
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| 16:18.39 | armenb | and the vendor insists that Ubuntu's myriad of kernel patches are probably at fault. |
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| 16:18.52 | jhutchins | wols: Don't debian and ubuntu apply different patches to the kernel? |
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| 16:19.29 | armenb | we're seeing stuff like threads not being notified in a timely manner when another thread calls pthread_notify(), and some sockets blocking at connection time. |
| 16:19.48 | jhutchins | armenb: Different hardware? |
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| 16:20.28 | armenb | jhutchins: no...insofar as they're both rackspace systems with identical specs |
| 16:21.14 | armenb | hmm...next, I think I'm going to try running a debian kernel on my ubuntu box to rule out a userspace library issue. |
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| 16:22.28 | armenb | if you have other ideas/thoughts, I'm all ears :-) |
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| 16:42.55 | Guest40204 | hey folks, i need to ask.. ive changed my sources.list but when i apt-get update it kinda still fetches source-repos who arent in my .list. can sb tell me why? |
| 16:43.28 | vlt | Guest40204: Maybe there’s something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 16:44.33 | rokkie | hey everybody, is have a little problem with ssh tunneling, anybody done that before ?? |
| 16:44.35 | petn-randall | philipp__: http://bugs.debian.org/openvpn |
| 16:44.47 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 16:44.47 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 16:47.01 | rokkie | ok, I ssh tunnel to another machine (host1) which works just fine, but if I wont to extend the tunnel from localhost via host1 to host2, its not working.... can somebody support ? |
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| 16:50.55 | petn-randall | rokkie: So you want a tunnel through a tunnel? |
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| 16:51.58 | rokkie | I want to tunnel to host2, but host2 is only avaible through host1 |
| 16:52.37 | rokkie | so i tunnel from localhost to host1, but from there i`m stuck, since all my traffic stops at host1 |
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| 16:52.55 | petn-randall | rokkie: I see. What are the commands you're using to do this? |
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| 16:53.26 | rokkie | first of all I start with windows putty to tunnel to host 1 |
| 16:53.40 | rokkie | trhe I |
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| 16:53.50 | rokkie | then I have an autossh on host2 to host 1 |
| 16:53.54 | rokkie | that works |
| 16:54.45 | rokkie | than ssh root@localhost -p 5022 -L 5000:localhost:8888 |
| 16:54.50 | thowe | I'm trying to use minicom to talk to a cisco device. I've got 9600 8N1, I can see all the output from the device, but none of my keyboard input seems to make it to the device. Minicom responds to its commands, but nothing makes it to the switch, it seems. Searching online, some folks suggested changing flow control params, but I have tried them all to no avail. Any idea what the deal is? |
| 16:55.00 | rokkie | port 5022 is bound to autossh |
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| 16:55.19 | rokkie | port 8888 on the host2 is tinyproxy |
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| 16:55.27 | vlt | rokkie: I use “ProxyCommand ssh host1 nc -w 1 host2 22” in my .ssh/config |
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| 16:57.02 | jhutchins | thowe: Sounds like maybe a bad cable. |
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| 16:57.43 | thowe | No. I've tried the same cable on another machine. Also, it this serial port works fine with OpenBSD. |
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| 16:59.45 | WormFood | thowe, what kinda cable are you using? |
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| 17:00.06 | WormFood | So, if you use the same serial cable, on freebsd, it works fine, but not under linux? |
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| 17:00.13 | WormFood | er, I mean obd |
| 17:00.17 | WormFood | obsd* |
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| 17:00.41 | thowe | WormFood, Yes. It's a factory molded cisco cable. I use it for everything. It's nto the cable. |
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| 17:00.57 | thowe | I just tried cu, and it said this: cu: open (/dev/ttyS0): Permission denied |
| 17:00.57 | thowe | cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use |
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| 17:01.14 | thowe | So, it would seem something is interfering with the com port.... |
| 17:01.23 | WormFood | it could still be the cable |
| 17:01.36 | WormFood | but, I'm not saying the cable is bad, but maybe not compatible |
| 17:01.59 | thowe | The cable works. I just used it with my laptop. It's not the cable. |
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| 17:02.23 | rokkie | vlt: this allopws you to connect to host 1 and get your traffic routed to host2 ? |
| 17:02.23 | WormFood | I don't know how much you know about serial port signals, so I don't want to assume too much, or too little...but there are more than just receive and transmit. You also have lines like RTS, and CTS |
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| 17:02.38 | WormFood | it may be, that obsd does not care about the CTS line, but maybe Linux does |
| 17:02.42 | wols | WormFood: where on my USB ports is RTS? |
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| 17:02.51 | WormFood | I don't know, I'm just throwing that out as a possibility |
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| 17:03.28 | WormFood | wols, it's in the protocol |
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| 17:03.58 | vlt | rokkie: I have an entry for host2 in my config file. When I `ssh hosts` it automagically connects first to host1, invokes nc to host2 from there and then connects to host2. I have setups with up to four hosts chained. Without problems. |
| 17:04.50 | thowe | WormFood, Just pulled another cisco cable out and tested it. Same problem. |
| 17:05.10 | WormFood | did you check to see how it's actually wired? |
| 17:06.14 | WormFood | there are different types of crossover cables, for serial ports, that switch the signals to the right places. A common one, is just a regular 3 wire serial cable, with the proper pins connected at each end. |
| 17:06.48 | thowe | It will be wired correctly. These are the factory cables that come with the switch. We use them everywhere for everything cisco related. I'm not wondering why I can't use the cable or talk to the switch, because I can from every other device. I'm trying to troubleshoot the ttyS0 on my debian box. |
| 17:07.13 | WormFood | have you tried another linux box? |
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| 17:08.04 | WormFood | I personally like to use knoppix for live testing, of stuff like this (to remove debian from the picture, in case it's a debian issue, even tho knoppix is based on debian) |
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| 17:08.31 | WormFood | and of course, if something else is holding your serial port open, that could cause problems, but you said you're receiving data |
| 17:08.44 | WormFood | also, are you using a true serial port, or a usb-to-serial adapter? |
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| 17:09.20 | vlt | rokkie: s/hosts/host2 ... I have an entry for host2 in my config file. When I `ssh host2` it automagically connects first to host1, invokes nc to host2 from there and then connects to host2. I have setups with up to four hosts chained. Without problems. |
| 17:09.52 | vlt | rokkie: Do you have a config file now? |
| 17:09.57 | tubbo | is this the correct place to ask about APT and package repositories and stuff? |
| 17:10.08 | tubbo | i'm trying to set up a system to build APT packages and add to my own respository |
| 17:10.14 | rokkie | vlt: ok, since I already have setup autossh from host2 to host1 and tunneling from localhost to host 1 works already.... is there no "easy" way to extend that tunnel via ssh command from bash ? |
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| 17:11.20 | Annonnymous | www.woldiex.com -> New Game administrator -> Work, build your busines in future -> Lets See ;) |
| 17:11.23 | vlt | rokkie: Should be. There’s always one more way to do things. |
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| 17:11.46 | vlt | rokkie: What did you do? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 17:15.20 | rokkie | what happens is, that my web traffic exits to the internet from host1 (even without a proxy installed on host1); i expect that the traffic exits to the internet from host2 |
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| 17:15.54 | thowe | WormFood, When I use ttyUSB0 it works fine. |
| 17:16.08 | rokkie | vlt: what happens is, that my web traffic exits to the internet from host1 (even without a proxy installed on host1); i expect that the traffic exits to the internet from host2 |
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| 17:17.31 | thowe | So, it seems to be the com port. Debian no likey |
| 17:18.06 | vlt | !details | rokkie |
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| 17:19.06 | rokkie | vlt: details like ? |
| 17:19.20 | vlt | rokkie: What did you do? |
| 17:19.30 | rokkie | I setup tinyproxy on host2 |
| 17:19.36 | rokkie | I setup autossh on host2 |
| 17:19.56 | rokkie | I connected to host1 from localhost |
| 17:20.10 | rokkie | with dynamic port tunnel |
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| 17:20.43 | vlt | rokkie: Can you show us te command (and config) you used? |
| 17:20.48 | vlt | *the |
| 17:20.49 | rokkie | then I tried to ssh from host 1 to host 2 binding the incoming tunnel port to the autossh port that leads to host2 |
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| 17:22.41 | rokkie | vlt: sure, but there is nothing fancy; tinyproxy is listening on port 8888; then I have on host 2 autossh -M 5122 -l admin -N -R 5022:localhost:8888 host1 |
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| 17:23.18 | rokkie | the I have a windows client using putty with port 5000 as dynamic port to tunnel |
| 17:23.49 | rokkie | I just miss the port forwarding on host1 to take the web traffic to host2 |
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| 17:24.44 | rokkie | I kind of hoped that if I use the ssh connection with the tunneling to connect to host1 and then to host2 it would automatically extend the tunnel ;) |
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| 17:25.43 | vlt | rokkie: So, putty from local to host1, listening to :5000 and forwarding to host1’s 5122? |
| 17:26.33 | rokkie | vlt: windows putty dont ask for a destination port when you check "dynamic port" |
| 17:26.59 | bagpuss_thecat | using d-i partman, is it possible to specify what sector the first partition should start on? I'm unable to preseed due to the embedding area being too small, as it starts on sector 63 of this SSD RAID1 (don't ask...) array |
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| 17:30.36 | rokkie | in my mind there must be a command that says "route incoming traffic from port 5000 to port 5022 [which is already bound to host 2 via autossh]" |
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| 17:32.07 | surf | guys I always had debian testing but now I wonder if the unstable is really unusable... I don't mind some bugs but usually how severe are them in unstable? |
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| 17:34.01 | rokkie | vlt: still there ? |
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| 17:35.16 | ctmjr | ping 10.210.192.1 |
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| 17:35.39 | ctmjr | oops |
| 17:35.40 | gswain | i noticed that wheezy dropped support for openvz in favor of lxc, is lxc at this point considered production ready? |
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| 17:37.19 | rokkie | vlt: I have been disconnect, did I miss anything ? |
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| 17:38.07 | rokkie | my last message was like " there must be a command to route incominbg ssh tunnel traffic to another established tunnel !? |
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| 17:43.31 | krooked | im trying to install a package, what does "subprocess post-installation script error exit status 2" mean? |
| 17:43.51 | centrx | krooked, It means there is probably a more specific error message above. |
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| 17:44.46 | krooked | centrx: yeah, Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 17:45.23 | centrx | !paste |
| 17:45.23 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 17:45.30 | centrx | hmm that message is not as useful as it could be |
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| 17:45.44 | centrx | krooked, Paste the full error message at paste.debian.net and give us the link here |
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| 17:47.44 | krooked | centrx: that was the only error message, just those two lines |
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| 17:48.14 | centrx | krooked, Is there no other output? |
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| 17:48.46 | krooked | centrx: nope |
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| 17:50.09 | krooked | its in my postinst script, it only happens when i try to execute a tool i made called "getbids" |
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| 17:50.44 | krooked | idk if its my tool or the postinst, thats what i need to find out and why its happening |
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| 17:52.11 | centrx | krooked, Try #debian-mentors on OFTC |
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| 17:56.21 | gswain | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.58 | Mad7Scientist | Could anyone tell me how to change the CHS values on my hard drive's partition table? I'm trying to install windows in the first area of the disk by creating the partition with fdisk, so that it starts on sector 64 or such instead of 63, but when I create the partition table with fdisk it says 222 heads 30 sectors and some weird numbers, and It will not let me change them! I cannot get DOS or NT5 to boot! |
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| 17:57.56 | centrx | gswain, I don't know, packages in stable are usually pretty stable. |
| 17:58.22 | gswain | cool thanks |
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| 17:58.59 | neo1691 | How can I find out if my shell is bash or dash? |
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| 17:59.34 | centrx | gswain, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=lxc;dist=stable |
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| 18:00.06 | centrx | neo1691, echo $SHELL |
| 18:00.14 | neo1691 | Thanks! |
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| 18:26.15 | jhutchins | Mad7Scientist: Those figures are not physical characteristics, but virtual characteristics emulated by the controller. |
| 18:26.22 | Rug | with the move away from ifconfig to ip addr what is the 'most correct' way to restart /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:26.38 | jhutchins | Mad7Scientist: Actually, the on-board controller on the drive. |
| 18:26.48 | Mad7Scientist | jhutchins, they are physical numbers that the BIOS expects for CHS mode disk access |
| 18:26.51 | Mad7Scientist | no |
| 18:27.02 | Mad7Scientist | often people confuse disk CHS with BIOS CHS |
| 18:27.24 | Mad7Scientist | Disks and all BIOSes since '95 have been using LBA, so that isn't an issue on the drive side |
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| 18:27.45 | Mad7Scientist | this CHS is the software interface that DOS and linux boot loaders use to access the disk through BIOS interfaces |
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| 18:28.25 | Mad7Scientist | the CHS that the BIOS expects must match what the boot loader generates, which it gets from what is stored on the MBR, which CHS mode BIOS storage device access is used |
| 18:29.32 | jhutchins | Mad7Scientist: http://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Partition_Alignment |
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| 18:34.24 | Mad7Scientist | jhutchins, "Older versions of Windows will require manual alignment." heh |
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| 18:36.01 | hesco | . |
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| 18:36.05 | hesco | . |
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| 18:36.49 | hesco | netstat -anp gives me: tcp6 0 0 127.0.0.1:8005 :::* LISTEN - |
| 18:37.24 | hesco | even though I use the -p switch, I still do not get a pid, so I can not figure out what might be listening there so I can shut it down. |
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| 18:37.35 | hesco | any ideas how to track this down. |
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| 18:39.39 | squisher | hesco, for -p you need to be root |
| 18:39.52 | hesco | thanks, will try that |
| 18:40.21 | hesco | that did the trick |
| 18:40.26 | hesco | thanks again |
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| 18:52.26 | chocolate | is it possible to mount nfs share through vpn by allowing 10.8.* network ? |
| 18:53.23 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: yes |
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| 18:54.15 | chocolate | dondelelcaro: do I need some specif routing by iptables? |
| 18:54.58 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: no |
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| 18:56.24 | chocolate | dondelelcaro: why to use vpn? |
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| 18:57.26 | deadmund | In your opinion, what is the worst thing about using debian testing as a distro? |
| 18:57.56 | chocolate | why if I use the direct IP of allowed hosts on /etc/exports it works, and if I use 10.8.* it doesnt works, in the way I get network timeout mounting |
| 18:58.24 | clizby | bar scroll nicklist * b |
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| 18:59.07 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: there's nothing intrinsic about a VPN which would stop it from working. |
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| 18:59.26 | esulu | hello all i have this problem can you helping me |
| 18:59.27 | esulu | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7195562/ |
| 18:59.57 | esulu | i can't install in debian vmware |
| 19:00.05 | chocolate | dondelelcaro: maybe it not recognize the client is inside openvpn and then I cant have permission to mount the server disk |
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| 19:00.36 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: however, you have to have the VPN network routed properly to the server which is exporting the filesystem |
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| 19:00.46 | chocolate | on that way should I forward the connection to the tunneling? |
| 19:01.02 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: is the server on the VPN itself? |
| 19:01.11 | chocolate | yes it is, sure |
| 19:01.20 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: and the clients are on the same VPN as well? |
| 19:01.27 | chocolate | sure yes |
| 19:01.39 | chocolate | it was stupid on my part to be asking doing that |
| 19:01.41 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: what is your line in /etc/exports? |
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| 19:02.42 | chocolate | '/nx 10.8.*(rw,async,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)' |
| 19:03.00 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: that's not going to work |
| 19:03.30 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: IP addresses take netmasks. Hostnames take wildcards |
| 19:03.30 | chocolate | what the problem? |
| 19:03.36 | dondelelcaro | chocolate: you want 10.8.0.0/16 |
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| 19:04.17 | dondelelcaro | (or possibly /24, or maybe something else, depending on what the VPN actually is) |
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| 19:04.51 | treywelsh | deadmund: Was that an open question? Nothing wrong IMO, it's what I use. |
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| 19:05.51 | chocolate | dondelelcaro: doesnt work man |
| 19:05.56 | deadmund | treywelsh: It was an open question. Even if you see nothing wrong. There may be some features you find "best" and some other features you find "good but not as good as x" so What is your lowest ranked feature? |
| 19:06.13 | deadmund | treywelsh: If indeed you see literally nothing wrong with it |
| 19:06.16 | chocolate | dondelelcaro: but if I change by the client IP it works |
| 19:06.56 | treywelsh | deadmund: I've come across some drivers that are Redhat or Ubuntu only. |
| 19:07.14 | treywelsh | I suggest against purchasing those products, so we don't and it's not really an issue. |
| 19:07.17 | deadmund | treywelsh: I see. Thanks for the input! |
| 19:07.36 | chocolate | I think 10.8.* and 10.8.0.0/24 are pretty the same |
| 19:07.51 | treywelsh | chocolate: According to whom? |
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| 19:08.03 | chocolate | according to my tests |
| 19:08.06 | chocolate | hahaha |
| 19:08.15 | chocolate | it doesnt work in any way |
| 19:08.20 | treywelsh | If anything, 10.8.* would be /16, not /24. |
| 19:09.01 | chocolate | it will not work that way also |
| 19:09.10 | chocolate | I think isnot about 16 or 24 |
| 19:09.30 | chocolate | I need to change that network to the real host IP to work |
| 19:10.03 | chocolate | seems to do that on vpn must have some iptables rules making some routing |
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| 19:10.08 | chocolate | isnot? |
| 19:10.09 | treywelsh | I haven't really been following what you've been doing. What VPN is that? |
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| 19:10.44 | laptop | hi debian. can you think of a nice way to test write speed to a filesystem? |
| 19:10.47 | treywelsh | Ah, mounting NFS. No idea. |
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| 19:11.26 | chocolate | dondelelcaro: help me |
| 19:11.53 | chocolate | I'm trying to redirect my services to the vpn tunneling... just that |
| 19:12.24 | ichthys | What is the best way to only allow certain Active Directory groups login access to your debian server? |
| 19:13.11 | laptop | ichthys: login using what? samba share? ssh? |
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| 19:14.46 | jhutchins | ichthys: What kind of access do they have? Local console? ssh? GUI? |
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| 19:15.05 | laptop | for samba, there is a long explanation here: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_%26_Active_Directory |
| 19:15.12 | laptop | I haven't done it personally |
| 19:15.26 | CygniX | will apache 2.2.27 be available for Wheezy? |
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| 19:15.37 | chocolate | laptop: with me? |
| 19:15.41 | jhutchins | laptop: I believe the google terms you're looking for are "linux hd benchmark tools". |
| 19:15.55 | jhutchins | ,v apache2 |
| 19:15.56 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u1; jessie: 2.4.7-1; sid: 2.4.9-1 |
| 19:16.19 | chocolate | if I try to mount some NFS storage on the client I get access denied, and on my /etc/exports I have allowed 10.8.0.0/24 network, and I can ping on vpn, but there are no rules on iptables to define routes, some idea? |
| 19:16.19 | jhutchins | CygniX: That looks like a "no". |
| 19:17.14 | CygniX | jhutchins: thanks, am asking if it will be, I know however it's not currently available. There are security fixes |
| 19:17.26 | jhutchins | chocolate: nfs is really, really, really not supposed to be used over WAN. |
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| 19:18.13 | scoobertron | My laptop is plugged into an external monitor. Is it possible to control the screen blanking independently? (I want the laptop to blank after 60s and the monitor to never blank) |
| 19:18.19 | chocolate | jhutchins: let's talk about samba so, I get the pretty same error |
| 19:18.25 | jhutchins | CygniX: Security fixes sometimes get applied as patches without necessarily upgrading the versions. You'd need to look at the changelog of the current package. You an also enquire about a backport if you have specific details of the fix. |
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| 19:18.52 | jhutchins | chocolate: The same is true. Share mounts over WAN are a bad idea for many reasons. |
| 19:18.52 | chocolate | jhutchins: is samba supposed to be used over WAN? |
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| 19:19.16 | jhutchins | chocolate: The only protocol I know of is sshfs. |
| 19:19.29 | chocolate | what should WAN be supposed to do on that way? |
| 19:19.49 | CygniX | jhutchins: I am certain that the 2.2.26/27 patches have not been applied. May be I need to inquire about a backport |
| 19:19.51 | jhutchins | chocolate: In general, handling files on remote servers should be done by making local copies and transfering them between servers with a transfer protocol. |
| 19:20.09 | jhutchins | ,maint apache2 |
| 19:20.12 | judd | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 19:21.11 | chocolate | show me a way to do that jhutchins |
| 19:21.12 | phogg | jhutchins: I don't know, sfs worked pretty well the last time I tried it |
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| 19:21.53 | jhutchins | chocolate: scp, ssh/sftp. |
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| 19:22.14 | chocolate | jhutchins: and tell me some reasons to not do that over wan cz I dont understand why you think that way |
| 19:22.32 | CygniX | jhutchins: 2.2.26 includes pfs for ecdh support |
| 19:22.32 | Fozzy | I have a bunch of systems that I maintain and apply updates to. I have a script that gets pulled to the systems and runs "apt-get install --yes --force-yes install ..." to install the packages without asking. Sometimes (and not on every system), the calling script is 'stopped' when apt is run, which I recover by typing 'fg 1'. Is there a good reason why this happens sometimes? |
| 19:22.58 | phogg | hmm, seems like sfs isn't packaged for Debian any more |
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| 19:23.31 | jhutchins | chocolate: It helps a lot if you don't think you need a GUI to manage files. |
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| 19:23.50 | phogg | Fozzy: something is sending SIGSTOP. Is the script attached to a terminal? Could something be sending CTRL+Z? |
| 19:23.58 | chocolate | jhutchins: one more reason |
| 19:24.02 | CygniX | jhutchins: http://www.apachelounge.com/Changelog.html |
| 19:25.00 | jhutchins | chocolate: Aside from file locking issues, network mounts don't have any provision for checking the integrity of the data being passed, so your chances of corruption are pretty high. There is also the fact that niether NFS nor Samba have any way to deal sanely with a dropped connection. |
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| 19:25.37 | Fozzy | phogg: Nothing is running that could send it CTRL+Z. The piece that does the work is 'exec'd from another script, and I'm thinking something funny happens then, but haven't been able to isolate it |
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| 19:26.15 | Fozzy | phogg: It's not a huge problem, just more annoying (which might eventually become a problem, but I'm not that bothered by it yet...) |
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| 19:26.45 | phogg | Fozzy: Okay. When it happens what was the last package to be processed? |
| 19:27.00 | CygniX | How do I inquire about getting patches for apache 2.2.22 to 2.2.27 or backport? |
| 19:27.04 | chocolate | jhutchins: ok and what you think about security mounting nfs over the internet? allowing just the client, good iptables rules and bla bla... |
| 19:27.06 | phogg | Fozzy: you could look at the preinst/postinst scripts for each package and see if they're doing anything funny |
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| 19:27.14 | paul_andrew | Installing a email gateway using mailscanner. For some reason it sends log messages to root and i'd like to know how i can turn that of. What could be the reasen the system is sending log messages to root? |
| 19:27.18 | Fozzy | phogg: It hadn't started to do any work yet, it's early on when apt-get is called |
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| 19:27.40 | phogg | paul_andrew: it's traditional. People suppose that root is the admin and he likes to be notified of problems. |
| 19:28.04 | phogg | Fozzy: very strange indeed. Is there a reason you're using apt-get and not aptitude? |
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| 19:30.13 | jhutchins | CygniX: Simply showing that updates, including security updates, exist is not reason enough for a patch or an update. You need to be able to explain that you need THIS specific (set of) security update(s) for a specific reason. Remember that every code change induces the possibility of a problem when interacting with other code that does not expect the change. |
| 19:30.20 | Fozzy | phogg: Mostly just because I've been using it for so long, I hadn't thought to try aptitude. I'll try that out and see if it helps |
| 19:30.46 | phogg | Fozzy: if it's really an apt-get bug then trying aptitude might confirm it |
| 19:30.57 | paul_andrew | phogg: yes i know ive seen the same in openbsd. However in this case the email had been also sent outside the system. Is there anyway to keep logs in /var/log and so shutoff the function that emails root. |
| 19:31.43 | CygniX | jhutchins: "mod_ssl: enable support for ECC keys and ECDH ciphers." I think the is reasonable justification |
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| 19:32.01 | phogg | paul_andrew: Short answer: Yes. Long answer: I can't help, I know nothing about this specifically. Just trying to answer a general-knowledge question. |
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| 19:33.06 | jhutchins | CygniX: That's a "new feature", for which you might request a backport, it's not a maintenance update. |
| 19:34.05 | CygniX | jhutchins: that is just one of the reasons, but there are many many maintenance updates since 2.2.22 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/CHANGES_2.2 |
| 19:34.06 | paul_andrew | phogg: ok, i understand. I really appreciate your fast response. |
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| 19:35.37 | jhutchins | CygniX: There are constant updates to most active Linux packages. Stable endeavours to present a consistent set of program versions which have been tested against each other. There are distributions that attempt to keep up with the latest packages regardless of what this breaks, Debian doesn't do that. |
| 19:35.48 | chocolate | jhutchins: did you try scp over vpn already? |
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| 19:36.09 | jhutchins | chocolate: All the time. |
| 19:36.11 | dbb0 | can anyone tell me what's wrong with my patch command: https://gist.github.com/dbb/9941467 |
| 19:36.41 | dbb0 | i've used the exact same command on other machines and it worked. the man page seems to indicate that -p0 is the correct value. |
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| 19:36.58 | jhutchins | !paste |
| 19:36.58 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 19:37.10 | CygniX | jhutchins: that is understandable it's why debian is debian. I am talking many security updates here as well. |
| 19:37.11 | chocolate | jhutchins: knowing that I have vpn working connected and ping all sides, how can I do that and have sure the data is passing trough vpn and being crypto...? |
| 19:37.24 | dbb0 | jhutchins: was that directed to me? |
| 19:37.32 | jhutchins | dbb0: pastebin.com and github.com tend to be blocked by webfilters because of the malware and spam they carry, the services dpkg listed are more accessible. |
| 19:37.54 | dbb0 | jhutchins: github carries malware and spam? |
| 19:38.16 | dbb0 | http://paste.debian.net/91274/ |
| 19:38.40 | chocolate | jhutchins: how can I do nat to make it works? |
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| 19:38.52 | jhutchins | dbb0: Well, according to the webfilter folks it does. |
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| 19:40.11 | jhutchins | chocolate: scp and rsync ssh/sftp are all encrypted whether over a normal connection or over VPN. If your VPN is set up correctly, all traffic to the remote network will be routed over it, VPN does not discriminate by protocol (it's a lower level transport). |
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| 19:41.25 | jhutchins | chocolate: nat is an entirely different subject. |
| 19:41.33 | chocolate | jhutchins: you mean I dont need define routes? |
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| 19:42.22 | ichthys | I was looking at only allow Active Directory "Domain Admins" being the only group to log into my Debian machines. We mainly use SSH |
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| 19:43.12 | chocolate | jhutchins: so all data is already passing through the tunnel you mean? |
| 19:43.21 | jhutchins | ichthys: see AllowGroups in /etc/ssh/sshd_config - I'm not sure how to escape the space... |
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| 19:43.47 | ichthys | jhutchins: Gotcha. ill start there. thanks |
| 19:44.15 | CygniX | who maintains the apache2 package for Wheezy, I'd like to query about applying latest updates |
| 19:44.17 | jhutchins | ichthys: You also have to figure out ssh auth over AD - I think that's done through PAM. |
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| 19:44.46 | jhutchins | CygniX: Take a look at the info for the package. aptitude show apache2 |
| 19:45.04 | ichthys | jhutchins: I have AD authentication through kerberos/samba/winbind and it uses pam |
| 19:45.30 | Baribal | Hi. I've got a server that is failing every now and then, as if the power just went out. I'm running a few Munin plugins that show no weird behaviour going on, and syslog doesn't show anything abnormal, either. How do I go on diagnosing what the problem might be? |
| 19:45.40 | jhutchins | ichthys: Excellent, you know more about that than I do then. |
| 19:45.48 | CygniX | jhutchins: thanks |
| 19:46.13 | jhutchins | Baribal: Does it reboot or just go dark? |
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| 19:46.22 | ichthys | jhutchins: ohh :( You're replies are good enough in my book ;) |
| 19:46.37 | Baribal | jhutchins, go dark. It has to be rebooted via the hosters web interface. |
| 19:47.24 | jhutchins | Baribal: Sounds like hardware, possibly thermal failure. If there's no logged shutdown it's not the OS that's doing it. |
| 19:47.51 | jhutchins | Baribal: Virtual or Physical? |
| 19:48.31 | Baribal | jhutchins, physical. I've installed Munins sensors_temp plugin after the last shutdown, but for now temperatures are very sane (35/40°C). |
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| 19:49.19 | jhutchins | Baribal: I'd at least notify hosting tech support - they can't fix it if they don't know it's broken. |
| 19:50.12 | Baribal | I'll try, though that might cost me $$$, which I'd like to avoid. Especially as I consider this a learning opportunity. |
| 19:50.22 | jhutchins | If the OS were causing the shutdown, it would be logged. Is it actually powered down or just frozen? |
| 19:50.38 | Baribal | I don't know, nor how I'd find out. |
| 19:50.52 | Baribal | So, how would I find out? :) |
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| 19:51.21 | Furai | Hey, what do you think of the singletons? Why should we use them? Why not? If yes then when? And when not? I heard it's overall bad design idea. |
| 19:51.32 | jhutchins | Baribal: That would depend on what you can tell from the web inteface, whether it thinks it's powered on or not. Do you have a virtual console? |
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| 19:52.10 | Baribal | jhutchins, tbh, I'll have to look, brb. |
| 19:52.39 | jhutchins | Furai: singletons are a convenient way to dress for dirty/hazardous environments, but don't do much in the way of a fashion statement. |
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| 19:54.12 | jhutchins | Furai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleton |
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| 19:56.15 | Baribal | jhutchins, if I do have a virtual console, I can't find it right now. |
| 19:56.23 | JordiGH | Would it be feasible to build a simple-sid-backporter? It grabs the sid package, looks for its dependencies in stable, if found edits debian/changelog with a custom version number and runs dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 19:56.38 | JordiGH | If the dependencies are unsatisfiable, it prompts whether you want to try to recurse or not. |
| 19:56.55 | JordiGH | I've been doing this manually for a while, and I think I must not be the only one. |
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| 19:59.34 | kale | i'm trying to install on 512MB disk, i am running outta space. remember those days when 120megs was enough |
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| 20:00.22 | Baribal | jhutchins, so "nothing in syslog" -> "Not shut down by OS" -> "Probably hardware"? Also, any other ideas I might try? |
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| 20:10.21 | DammitJim | man, does flash run everywhere on webpages? |
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| 20:12.30 | Baribal | DammitJim, hopefully not for long anymore. |
| 20:12.48 | CygniX | jhutchins: I sent an email to debian-apache@lists.debian.org |
| 20:13.08 | relipse | how would i write a script to trim a directory of backups to the most recent 7 days? the format is /backups/sitefoo-Y-m-d, sitebar-Y-m-d (for each site trimmed to last 7) |
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| 20:18.45 | jordanm | relipse: find /path -mtime +7 -delete |
| 20:18.57 | mns | I have a package in a very bad shape: dpkg-query -l | grep "pHR linux-image-3.13-1-powerpc-smp 3.13.5-1 powerpc " |
| 20:19.02 | jordanm | test without -delete first to make sure it will do what youw ant |
| 20:19.22 | relipse | ok thanks |
| 20:19.25 | jordanm | !tell relipse about cross-post |
| 20:19.34 | mns | I have a package in a very bad shape: dpkg-query -l | grep linux-image ---> "pHR linux-image-3.13-1-powerpc-smp 3.13.5-1 powerpc " |
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| 20:20.09 | relipse | how do i do last 5 minutes for testing purposes jordanm |
| 20:20.22 | mns | forgot the linux-image for the grep |
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| 20:20.44 | mad_hatter | anybody know of any good alternatives to mysql-workbench for linux? |
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| 20:21.00 | jordanm | mad_hatter: what's wrong with mysql-workbench? |
| 20:21.14 | relipse | use wine ? |
| 20:21.22 | relipse | heidisql is cool |
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| 20:22.20 | jordanm | mysql-workbench works on linux. wine is not needed |
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| 20:24.40 | mo1991 | am I having trouble getting pipelight with the windows flash version to play xfinity online stuff with the proper audio/video sync. Doing some googling, it suggests that a newer version of wine-compholio may fix the issue but I"m not sure where to find it for wheezy. Anyone help? |
| 20:25.20 | slackner | mo1991: i would suggest you to join our channel #pipelight where we could discuss this a bit more detailed (especially what kind of problem you have exactly) |
| 20:25.21 | mo1991 | btw pipelight does work great with the silverlight plugin for netflix - and does work with the winblows flash version for xfinity tv online - but audio/video goes out of sync quickly |
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| 20:25.36 | mo1991 | slackner - will do |
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| 20:27.11 | jhutchins | CygniX: I might watch the archives, see what kind of response you get. |
| 20:27.32 | jhutchins | CygniX: Understand that I don't set any of the policies, I'm just explaining them as best I can given my understanding. |
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| 20:29.44 | CygniX | jhutchins: understood. I think I made a precise case for the update, but we'll see... |
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| 20:33.22 | jhutchins | mns: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 20:39.00 | qu | # apt-get install lshw |
| 20:39.01 | qu | couldnt find configuration file: No such file or directory |
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| 20:39.15 | qu | G**gle's never heard of this error. |
| 20:39.23 | Sbroker | Hi from Spain |
| 20:39.36 | qu | And there's no option for apt-get to specify the config file location. |
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| 20:40.08 | squisher | qu, google's not a swear word afaik ;-) try running it with strace to figure out what file it can't open |
| 20:40.09 | qu | I'm dead in the water. |
| 20:40.12 | Oejet | Sbroker: Hola. |
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| 20:40.38 | qu | squisher: Unfortunately I can't run strace as it's not installed and I can't install it. |
| 20:40.56 | squisher | qu, go to http://packages.debian.org/strace and download the .deb manually, then install it with "dpkg -i" |
| 20:41.10 | squisher | cumbersome, but I don't think it has any deps |
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| 20:44.57 | chocolate | how to allow samba access on server to the LAN? |
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| 20:46.49 | qu | squisher: Thx. Turns out it's using /usr/local/bin/apt-get, which depends on proxychains4 to pipe through TOR. But I don't have TOR installed yet. Easy enough to bypass. |
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| 20:59.53 | eb0t | new high-speed USB device number 9 using ehci_hcd |
| 20:59.58 | eb0t | i need to mount it |
| 21:00.09 | eb0t | i cant find it in /dev |
| 21:00.50 | eb0t | how can i locate the darn thing |
| 21:01.02 | eb0t | i got that higah spped device from dmesg |
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| 21:02.21 | wols | pastebin the full output of dmesg please. |
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| 21:03.06 | eb0t | ok wols |
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| 21:03.54 | qu | Now apt-key is non-functional. |
| 21:04.07 | qu | apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E1F958385BFE2B6E |
| 21:04.24 | qu | ... and it instantly goes back to # without importing any keys. |
| 21:04.25 | eb0t | http://bpaste.net/show/DRctKejRNlEZYO6SgCJY/ |
| 21:04.45 | eb0t | its a nikon camera |
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| 21:12.25 | praymann1 | @eb0t What shows up when you run 'lsusb'? |
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| 21:13.58 | eb0t | http://bpaste.net/show/oNRnul7x0FnFL5GuCX4Z/ |
| 21:14.08 | eb0t | that is my lsusb...it shows up the nikon |
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| 21:15.57 | praymann1 | Are you sure that can be mounted USB mass storage or does it use PTP? |
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| 21:18.53 | Anuska | HI, i have debian, and i run wmvare with windows xp.... i want to enable my USB HASP on linux.. |
| 21:19.07 | Anuska | how i see if i plugin the usb and is on? |
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| 21:21.29 | joq | I have mailman installed on my debian server, but i'm having translation issues. the pages are a mix of english and german |
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| 21:22.33 | praymann1 | @eb0t I see your camera listed here http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php |
| 21:22.52 | mad_hatter | is there a way to install an earlier version of mysql-workbench? |
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| 21:23.47 | MrPopinjay | Hello all. I'm having difficultly connecting to wifi with a laptop running debian testing, with a realtek rtl8188ce card. I've installed the realtek-firmware package, and now wlan0 is in the output of iwconfig, but wicd-curses fails to find any networks. What ought I do next? Thank you. |
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| 21:25.15 | joq | MrPopinjay: try using iw or wpa_supplicant |
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| 21:26.08 | MrPopinjay | I found iw very confusing. Is there a command I can use to scan for networks? It would be nice to tell if the problem is limited to wicd or not. Thank you. |
| 21:26.24 | GNU\colossus | iwlist scan |
| 21:26.31 | sysvalve | hi |
| 21:27.24 | FUN | MrPopinjay: I used this method for beaglebone + usb wifi |
| 21:27.25 | FUN | http://embeddedprogrammer.blogspot.kr/2013/01/beaglebone-using-usb-wifi-dongle-to.html |
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| 21:28.12 | MrPopinjay | Thank you FUN |
| 21:28.24 | qu | Has anyone, in their life, ever had apt-key fail? |
| 21:28.57 | zinx | fail how? |
| 21:29.12 | zinx | and people probably have. |
| 21:29.13 | FUN | MrPopinjay: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning |
| 21:29.20 | qu | #apt-key ... and it just goes right back to command-line. |
| 21:29.35 | qu | apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E1F958385BFE2B6E |
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| 21:29.46 | qu | ... and it just goes right back to command-line. |
| 21:29.51 | zinx | maybe it's because you mixed debian packages with ubuntu packages |
| 21:30.07 | MrPopinjay | Yes, I just found it. Very helpful this! It seems that wicd isn't working. Good news- the card works. Bad news- the friendly looking config tool doesn't :( |
| 21:30.07 | FUN | I get apt-get fetch fail |
| 21:30.50 | qu | zinx: Haven't mixed anything. Just glomming off the Ubongo keyserver. |
| 21:31.03 | zinx | qu: works for me in sid |
| 21:31.11 | joq | MrPopinjay: I use dhcpcd and wpa_supplicant. You can configure wireless networks in wpa_supplicant and then just use dhcpcd to connect to them |
| 21:31.26 | zinx | qu: or, at least, it gives me an error when i try to connect to a server not running a keyserver |
| 21:31.26 | qu | I've just done a new Testing install, and it doesn't work. |
| 21:31.28 | joq | it at least works for me on archlinux, I only use debian as a server |
| 21:31.33 | Anuska | Ii want to enable my USB HASP on linux.. |
| 21:31.35 | Anuska | how i do? |
| 21:31.40 | qu | Just silently fails. |
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| 21:31.51 | zinx | qu: i'm running sid, and i don't think there have been changes to apt-key or gnupg in the past couple of weeks |
| 21:31.54 | FUN | MrPopingjay: that's good. I don't have GUI anyway. I'm using 'minicom' to communicate with beaglebone |
| 21:32.17 | zinx | qu: try running ltrace on it? (or strace if you don't want to install ltrace) |
| 21:32.38 | zinx | (strace traces system calls, ltrace traces libc calls) |
| 21:32.48 | MrPopinjay | I don't have a gui either- I was using a curses interface :) |
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| 21:33.02 | qu | zinx: I'll try it. |
| 21:34.39 | qu | zinx: I've found it. Same TOR problem. (not installed) It was running /usr/local/bin/gpg and I didn't know it. |
| 21:34.52 | qu | apt-get update |
| 21:35.00 | qu | (ops... |
| 21:35.16 | zinx | qu: ah |
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| 21:35.37 | mo1991 | I am trying to change the phonon-backend-vlc player to use alsa rather than pulseaudio. Changing the settings in the gui of vlc player works for vlc player, but not for phonon-backend-vlc it seems. Can anyone help |
| 21:35.37 | mo1991 | ? |
| 21:35.38 | zinx | qu: well, hope you have it solved then :) |
| 21:35.48 | qu | Yep, thanks. |
| 21:36.18 | FUN | apt-get update fetch fails :-( |
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| 21:41.55 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i am getting a cannot open display error when i try to use xrandr in xmonad how do i fix that? |
| 21:42.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | or in the very least who would know? |
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| 21:43.40 | SynrG | are you su'd when that happens? |
| 21:43.56 | cajg | Hi. I tried a btrfs on encrypted partition install with the Debain 8 Jessie alpha. It didn't even boot to grub. Right place for this here? |
| 21:44.09 | cajg | alpha installer |
| 21:44.22 | cajg | on Virtualbox |
| 21:44.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | no SynrG |
| 21:44.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | reg user |
| 21:45.11 | SynrG | typed manually? |
| 21:45.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | erin@ephiny:~$xrandr --output DP2 --left-of HDMI2 |
| 21:45.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | No protocol specified |
| 21:45.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | Can't open display :0.0 |
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| 21:46.11 | SynrG | ssh'd? |
| 21:46.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | .... |
| 21:46.42 | SynrG | ruling out things that might cause it |
| 21:46.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | no i am not logging in with secure shell , i am not a complete moron i have had my coffe today |
| 21:47.06 | SynrG | even experts make mistakes |
| 21:47.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah its called chernoybl |
| 21:47.40 | SynrG | hah |
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| 21:48.53 | SynrG | cajg: #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net or #debian-boot if it is installer related |
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| 21:49.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | hmmm |
| 21:49.43 | SynrG | xrandr |
| 21:49.46 | mad_hatter | anyone know how to run java files in linux |
| 21:49.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | $echo $DISPLAY |
| 21:49.47 | SynrG | no params |
| 21:49.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | :0.0 |
| 21:50.01 | SynrG | 0.0? |
| 21:50.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | same stuff |
| 21:50.10 | cajg | SynrG thanks |
| 21:50.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
| 21:50.32 | SynrG | are you actually on that disparity? |
| 21:50.38 | SynrG | display?* |
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| 21:50.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | i think so i got a big screen and a monitor |
| 21:51.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | they are mirroring |
| 21:51.19 | SynrG | xeyes |
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| 21:51.26 | SynrG | does it fauil? |
| 21:51.30 | SynrG | fail* |
| 21:51.32 | rajkosto | hi where is the video mode for text startup set ? |
| 21:51.35 | jhutchins | mad_hatter: Install a jre. |
| 21:51.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | yes |
| 21:51.37 | jhutchins | !java |
| 21:51.38 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:52.02 | MrPopinjay | Oh |
| 21:52.04 | SynrG | maybe it is :1.0 … |
| 21:52.06 | rajkosto | i migrated to uefi and now all i get is a black screen before the GUI shows up |
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| 21:52.33 | jhutchins | rajkosto: I believe it's possible to set it from the boot command in grub. |
| 21:52.55 | Eryn_1983_FL | ... SynrG you are a genius! |
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| 21:53.02 | SynrG | hah |
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| 21:53.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | me gots the eyes! |
| 21:53.08 | SynrG | lucky guess |
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| 21:53.35 | SynrG | what's on :0.0? |
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| 21:54.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dunno |
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| 21:54.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | nothing? |
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| 21:54.41 | gregc2_ | in debian in /etc/network/interfaces to set a wifi card to use a specific ap you can use wireless-ap macaddr right? |
| 21:54.49 | SynrG | did you have an xorg crash? |
| 21:54.51 | gregc2_ | having a hard time finding this documentation |
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| 21:55.05 | SynrG | or switch user? |
| 21:55.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | maybe... |
| 21:55.56 | Eryn_1983_FL | themis is logged in bet duh duh duh |
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| 21:56.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | oh and its calling my monitor an hdmi.. i want to laugh |
| 21:56.21 | SynrG | gregc2_: man wireless |
| 21:56.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | so not hdmi cant even plug in a usb cable to it its so old.. |
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| 21:57.13 | gregc2_ | that doesnt help |
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| 21:58.13 | SynrG | hmm |
| 21:58.46 | SynrG | tablet doesn't lend itself well for me to explore … |
| 21:59.05 | SynrG | still looking :-) |
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| 21:59.20 | gregc2_ | iwconfig supports wireless-ap |
| 21:59.27 | gregc2_ | im just looking to make it permenant |
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| 22:00.42 | sdf10809 | speaking of iwconfig, people are always saying not to use deprecated commands, but is there any good reason not to? why not use what we know best? |
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| 22:02.32 | MrPopinjay | I got wicd-curse working |
| 22:02.43 | MrPopinjay | I had to specify my wireless card in the preferences (hit P) |
| 22:02.45 | MrPopinjay | Thanks all |
| 22:02.47 | MrPopinjay | Goodnight |
| 22:03.15 | petn-randall | sdf10809: Nothing wrong with using deprecated commands. For some things they work better than others, though. Try adding a second IP address to an interface, once with ifconfig, once with ip. |
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| 22:03.36 | johndoe | for some reason my Graphical Display Manager wont start |
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| 22:03.40 | johndoe | i cant remember what it was |
| 22:03.49 | johndoe | im using mate+xfwm |
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| 22:07.14 | gregc2_ | hmm |
| 22:09.44 | SynrG | paste your interfaces at paste.debian.net (minus secrets) |
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| 22:12.23 | gregc2_ | the question doesnt really need an interfaces file |
| 22:12.38 | Anuska | Hasp Usb on debian? how i install? |
| 22:13.10 | SynrG | what if you have it half right? |
| 22:13.26 | gregc2_ | .... the question is how do i bind to an ap |
| 22:13.41 | gregc2_ | not if my interface is wrong |
| 22:13.56 | treywelsh | I have an .icedove folder belonging to a 3.0.11+squeeze version, how should I go about copying it to a 17.0.10-1~deb7u1 version? |
| 22:13.56 | treywelsh | The installer does it automagically if I'm upgrading from 3.0 to 17.0 |
| 22:14.04 | SynrG | i do it with wpa_supplicant which is not what you are using |
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| 22:14.54 | SynrG | i do it that way to support roaming |
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| 22:21.05 | new2deb | ok how do I turn up sound? |
| 22:21.06 | new2deb | :) |
| 22:21.21 | new2deb | new amd64 install of 7.4 with iceWM desktop |
| 22:21.28 | new2deb | trying iceweasil browser |
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| 22:22.53 | Aeiri | new2deb: alsamixer |
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| 22:23.36 | Anuska | Give me, Trying to find a suitable PBM set for kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64. when i want to run vmware.. |
| 22:24.13 | new2deb | cant find it with apt-cache search |
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| 22:26.48 | new2deb | ah here we are |
| 22:26.49 | new2deb | ok |
| 22:26.59 | new2deb | everything turned up in alsamicer lets try |
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| 22:27.57 | new2deb | nice! |
| 22:28.27 | new2deb | I was stuck cuz apt-cache search alsamixer came back with nothing |
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| 22:34.30 | FUN | :P apt-get update works now |
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| 23:03.30 | treywelsh | Oh no, dependency hell when going from squeeze->wheezy. |
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| 23:04.07 | new2deb | lol |
| 23:04.11 | new2deb | why did u do it? |
| 23:04.13 | new2deb | whyyyy |
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| 23:04.49 | FUN | T-T |
| 23:05.21 | Brigo | !tell treywelsh about squeeze->wheezy |
| 23:05.40 | sdegutis | Can anyone point me to a guide on how to get my framebuffer working correctly (with Debian on an IBM Thinkpad T60) so I don't have to leave "fb=false" in my "linux" invocation in GRUB? |
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| 23:07.12 | new2deb | pikc laptop in install type |
| 23:07.17 | new2deb | that will help |
| 23:07.21 | new2deb | ;) |
| 23:07.27 | new2deb | 7.4 |
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| 23:12.14 | sdegutis | This is strange. Debian seems to change my resolution *away from* the one I selected in GRUB, once it's at the console login prompt. |
| 23:12.20 | sdegutis | Why is that happening? |
| 23:13.45 | SynrG | console-setup |
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| 23:15.47 | sdegutis | Okay thanks. |
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| 23:16.23 | sdegutis | Now trying to get the thing to not just be a blank screen, so I can do that. |
| 23:16.33 | treywelsh | Lel apt just got removed, I'm done. Best bet is to reinstall this thing |
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| 23:30.25 | Roland- | hello I have an huge issue, I have extremly low performance on all drives and the system itself |
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| 23:30.40 | Roland- | hdparm -T reports 700 KB/s |
| 23:31.07 | Roland- | and it;s an quad core xeon, what should I inspect further? |
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| 23:37.35 | xunil | When I got multiple vservers, what is an elegant way of storing the log data? Rsyslog over network? |
| 23:38.34 | kdog | gf |
| 23:40.30 | johndoe | how do i auto load a kernel driver? |
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| 23:42.42 | Roland- | modprobe |
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| 23:45.28 | mtn | johndoe: https://wiki.debian.org/Modules |
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| 23:50.22 | LinuxGuy2020 | Hello I am running MATE desktop and I'm not sure what package I might need to get a printer config utility in the menus. I'm guessing the same package that would work for like a basic window manager etc. |
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| 23:51.29 | somiaj | LinuxGuy2020: any reason you won't just use the web interface with CUPS? |
| 23:51.49 | somiaj | but that could also be a key word to search for the package name |
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| 23:56.28 | LinuxGuy2020 | somiaj: I can never remember the url for it. Is there a way to check it on the command line next time I need it? |
| 23:57.18 | somiaj | LinuxGuy2020: I always forget the port, but it is localhost |
| 23:57.32 | somiaj | LinuxGuy2020: I just look it up on google, 'default cups port' |
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| 23:57.57 | somiaj | LinuxGuy2020: I think you need to add your user to lpadmin to use CUPS too |
| 23:58.21 | LinuxGuy2020 | cool thanks |
| 23:58.21 | themill | localhost:631 |
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