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| 00:40.30 | cypherman | hi guys |
| 00:40.38 | cypherman | what's up |
| 00:40.53 | cypherman | i'm was checking out graphic cards |
| 00:41.23 | cypherman | i have a 8 core amd fx8120 cpu and i may upgrade the full 32gb of ram and wanted to upgrade the video too |
| 00:41.47 | cypherman | i have the ati radeon 5450 and i wanted something for gimp graphic design and something also compatiblle with debian |
| 00:41.55 | cypherman | is there anyu special suggestion?? |
| 00:42.35 | cypherman | there are lots of ati radeon hd 7000 series and 6000 series in amazon |
| 00:43.18 | cypherman | or maybe i should point to the firepro line, maybe those are more for workstation and linux compatible |
| 00:43.51 | cypherman | anyone? |
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| 00:45.39 | cypherman | any good graphic card for graphic design, mainly gimp for a debian workstation? |
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| 00:45.57 | cypherman | full hd display ans stuff |
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| 00:51.30 | ncp | would suggest medium range card |
| 00:51.38 | ncp | should be enough? |
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| 00:56.19 | hexafraction | How long does it usually take for a new Java major version to land in debian repos? |
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| 00:56.35 | hexafraction | I'm working on a FOSS project and don't want to force my users to compile openJDK from source |
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| 01:02.35 | us`0gb | hexafraction: #debian on OFTC might yield a quicker response. |
| 01:03.02 | hexafraction | OK, thank you. I will ask. |
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| 01:08.12 | cypherman | ncp, what kind of card is good for a debian workstation? |
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| 01:27.45 | DrDamnit | Fresh install of Wheezy + XFCE. Terminal is just black and unresponsive. Anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 01:36.17 | ctmjr | cypherman: how much money you lookng to spend nvidias Quadro line are high end workstation cards then you have the gforce series, But I like nvidia some prefer amd |
| 01:36.27 | bingodoink | what do I install to modify the device used for sound output? |
| 01:36.57 | cypherman | ctmjr, i would expend like 150-200 usd on the card |
| 01:37.37 | cypherman | ctmjr, so i'm looking for a budget card, if possible, a good card for processing gimp images, not gaming |
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| 01:37.58 | cypherman | opensource drivers if possible |
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| 01:41.23 | ctmjr | cypherman: then look at the gforce cards a gtx9800 and above will work you can go lower but then you run the risk of losing support faster. I have no idea about amd cards |
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| 01:46.58 | ctmjr | yes |
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| 03:52.49 | shelpe | I have a problem, #debian. When I access my webpage http://shelpe.cool.addr from inside my LAN the page displays. when i access it from outside the LAN (from a friend's house) it does not load. nmap says port 80 isn't open! I'm not sure what the problem is here! |
| 03:56.00 | Rusty1 | shelpe: do you have a router at home? |
| 03:56.31 | shelpe | Rusty1: yes. port forwarding is set to open 80 for tcp/udp |
| 03:58.02 | LtL | shelpe: is it forwarded to the proper LAN http server box? |
| 03:58.15 | Rusty1 | shelpe: are you sure the port is forwarded to the lan IP of the host? |
| 03:58.53 | shelpe | Rusty1: i'm sure. the ip of the box is 192.168.1.12. and that's what's in the box |
| 03:59.03 | shelpe | It's strange because my secure shell service and ftp is working fine |
| 04:00.43 | Rusty1 | they do not use port 80, unless set to do so |
| 04:00.54 | LtL | shelpe: then its likely the 'Listen' directive in your httpd conf file |
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| 04:04.24 | shelpe | LtL i am running apache, i will look into that |
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| 04:19.53 | Zoph | I'm having an issue with my DVD drive only reading CD's and not DVD's, when I insert a DVD it tells me "no medium found". I've tried everything I can think of and find on forums, anyone know of a solution? |
| 04:23.46 | epsilon | sounds like some copy-righted mdium / damaged medium / broken drive |
| 04:23.59 | Zoph | it was working with BSD, a day ago |
| 04:24.22 | Zoph | the medium is a burned disc containing pdf files, i have tried an assortment of discs, none will read |
| 04:24.35 | Zoph | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:30.54 | shelpe | turns out the isp blocks inbound on 80 :/ |
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| 04:39.46 | Zoph | any ideas? |
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| 04:53.31 | nwf | Forgive a dumb question, but my google-fu and manpage-fu is weak and I don't wish to read the source: why is apt-get attempting to fetch dists/jessie/main/.../Source and not Source.gz? |
| 04:58.22 | dondelelcaro | nwf: that's just the last fallback |
| 04:58.32 | dondelelcaro | nwf: it'll actually try to get the compressed ones first |
| 04:58.38 | nwf | It does not appear to be doing so. |
| 04:58.43 | nwf | The other files exist. |
| 04:59.26 | dondelelcaro | nwf: if apt-get --print-uris update; outputs foo.bz2, then that's what it's getting. |
| 04:59.45 | dondelelcaro | nwf: it actually doesn't bother to print the compression method |
| 05:00.06 | nwf | Ah ha, it's trying to use .bz2, while our mirror only has .gz and .xz. |
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| 05:00.44 | nwf | This is very confusing, as my laptop is running the same version of apt as this client and considers the mirror just fine... |
| 05:00.50 | dondelelcaro | your mirror should have both of them |
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| 05:01.59 | nwf | We pulled from http://ftp-nyc.osuosl.org as our upstream; http://ftp-nyc.osuosl.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/source/ does not have the .bz2, for example. |
| 05:02.14 | nwf | Is this just a case of "bad upstream, try again"? |
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| 05:32.24 | NetEcho | hey guys I'm trying to get my buddy's logitech mx5500 keyboard and wireless mouse working in Jessie but not sure what drivers are needed |
| 05:32.44 | wols | NetEcho: none |
| 05:32.50 | wols | they act as normal usb devices |
| 05:33.22 | NetEcho | wols: as soon as it restarts after install both the mouse and keyboard stop working |
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| 05:34.15 | wols | outside X too? |
| 05:34.26 | wols | e.g. start without X |
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| 05:34.48 | NetEcho | wols: can't tell these guys only use wireless so I'm stuck with ssh to do anything on the system |
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| 05:35.57 | NetEcho | is there a way I can get it to start without X from ssh? |
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| 05:37.25 | NetEcho | my guess would be a Xorg issue as well |
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| 05:39.18 | emss | if it acts like a usb device try "unplugging" it and plugging it back in |
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| 05:41.59 | NetEcho | emss: I will try that |
| 05:43.48 | spyder | how to open empathy logs, they are in xml format |
| 05:44.11 | NetEcho | emss: no go |
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| 05:46.40 | wols | !nodm |
| 05:46.43 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
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| 05:46.54 | wols | you edit some config files, that you can do via ssh, then X won't start |
| 05:50.53 | NetEcho | wols: removed the dm rebooting now |
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| 05:51.45 | NetEcho | wols: keyboard doesn't work outside of X |
| 05:53.53 | NetEcho | trying to re-pair it |
| 05:55.36 | NetEcho | yea the dongle isn't working once debian boots |
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| 05:57.44 | wols | NetEcho: a wireless keyboard is simply a HID USB device like others :( |
| 05:58.23 | NetEcho | wols: lsusb seems to detect it Bus 006 Device 005: ID 046d:c709 Logitech, Inc. BT Mini-Receiver (HCI mode) , but beyond that both devices don't work |
| 05:58.34 | wols | NetEcho: is it using bluetooth? |
| 05:58.39 | NetEcho | yes |
| 05:58.45 | NetEcho | it's pre-unifying dongle days |
| 05:59.17 | wols | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1858493 could be a udev issue as shown there |
| 05:59.45 | NetEcho | hmm wols thanks I'll see if that helps |
| 06:00.36 | wols | NetEcho: I was thinking it was using a normal usb wireless receiver. I've used wireless logitech keyboards now 10 years old, they still work normally as any other keyboard. BT is of course different since the receiver doesn't act as a normal USB HID device |
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| 06:01.56 | NetEcho | wols: understandable is yours unifying receiver |
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| 06:03.29 | wols | no. long long time before a unifying receiver existed |
| 06:03.53 | NetEcho | ah cool, the keyboard is working in cli now to re-install lightdm |
| 06:05.42 | NetEcho | wols: thank you so much it works perfectly |
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| 06:53.56 | nell | i accidently tried installing a program armory |
| 06:53.57 | nell | a bitcoin wallet |
| 06:54.00 | nell | thats not compatible with debian |
| 06:54.31 | nell | now it says i have unmet depndencies |
| 06:54.33 | nell | i juts wanna undo |
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| 06:56.12 | nell | how do I uninstall debian packages |
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| 07:03.48 | wols | nell: dpkg -r see man dpkg |
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| 07:11.35 | Jaleks | when using a function ('finally ()') to trap several signals in bash scripts, is there a possibility to distinguish inside 'finally()' which signal actually came in? |
| 07:11.56 | babilen | Jaleks: I am sure you want #bash not #debian |
| 07:13.21 | Bac0n | if i pin a package is it possible to pin depends or do i have to pin depends seperate |
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| 07:21.37 | babilen | Bac0n: The latter -- What are you trying to do? |
| 07:21.55 | Bac0n | i like to pin openssl from sid |
| 07:22.38 | Bac0n | need depends to libssl1.0.0 and -dev |
| 07:23.16 | babilen | Bac0n: Why would you want to do that? |
| 07:23.47 | Bac0n | its some delay on testing |
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| 07:25.19 | babilen | Bac0n: Okay - You want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing/unstable support in general. This particular problem is fairly easy to solve. The version that fixes the heartbleed bug (fixing it is what I assume is what you are *really* trying to do) has been uploaded to jessie/updates on security and you can get it from there. |
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| 07:26.18 | Bac0n | ok didnt think testing had security |
| 07:26.20 | babilen | Bac0n: Apart from that you should be able to simply configure your system as a testing/unstable mix like that exemplified in <tum> and then pull packages directly from sid with "apt-get -t unstable install $PKG" -- /msg dpkg tum |
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| 07:26.43 | Bac0n | yes have pinning up to exp |
| 07:27.09 | babilen | Bac0n: It does have security, but packages will only be uploaded there in rare occasions. Heartbleed is one of those. Is fixing heartbleed what you are actually trying to do or is there anything else? |
| 07:27.23 | babilen | Bac0n: You shouldn't need pinning at all with <tum> |
| 07:27.31 | Bac0n | just like to have ssl in the normal update flow |
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| 07:29.24 | babilen | Bac0n: The "normal" update flow for testing is via unstable. Are you, mayhaps, realising that testing is not a release meant to be used for users? ;) -- That being said: Simplify your life and configure <tum> and be done with it. |
| 07:29.36 | babilen | Rest in #debian-next :) |
| 07:29.49 | Bac0n | yep joining |
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| 07:30.21 | Bac0n | mm +i |
| 07:30.48 | babilen | Bac0n: The channel is, as stated earlier and indicated in /topic, on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) not here on Freenode |
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| 07:44.05 | Zungo | babilen: Hey, its Juest, about my computer, should i install wheezy? (i heard installation and fixing it is pita) :( |
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| 07:44.39 | deego | Zungo: yes, choose wheezy! |
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| 07:45.10 | babilen | dpkg: tell Zungo -about cross-post |
| 07:45.44 | Zungo | Sorry babilen |
| 07:45.57 | babilen | np |
| 07:46.17 | Zungo | deego: im not sure what to pick, my computer is an acer aspire one 722 bz454 and its a bit pita. |
| 07:46.24 | Zungo | particulary wifi |
| 07:46.45 | deego | Zungo: If you're looking to avoid pita, wheezy is the way to go |
| 07:46.56 | Zungo | and i have slightly different hardware than the one described in https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Acer/AspireOne_722 |
| 07:46.57 | deego | but i'm afk now :( |
| 07:48.02 | Zungo | 1) Audio is conextant hermosa 2) not sure about wifi, lol 3) i have realtek sd reader... |
| 07:48.12 | babilen | yokel: You can easily install a newer kernel from <wheezy-backports> on wheezy as detailed in <bdo kernel> |
| 07:48.38 | babilen | yokel: Sorry, ENICK |
| 07:48.47 | babilen | Zungo: ^^^ |
| 07:49.04 | Zungo | lol. why new kernel? im not even sure at all |
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| 07:50.36 | babilen | Zungo: I would recommend to install wheezy and to see how far you get with that. Pull available packages that you want to use in a newer version from wheezy-backports (including your kernel) and get a feeling for the system. You can, at any point, "upgrade" to testing (or rather <tum>) anyway and you might be happy with the fact that you get work done rather than have to spend time on fixing the system ;) |
| 07:51.40 | babilen | Zungo: The kernel in a Linux system is what provides, among other things, all drivers for your hardware. If a particular piece of hardware is not supported in the kernel version in wheezy (3.2) it might be supported by that in wheezy-backports (3.13) |
| 07:51.45 | Zungo | so, i get wheezy then i update to jessie? (sid is not a good choice for me due to the huge testing and ubuntu being available (in fact it's a sid snapshot with canonical's own stuff) |
| 07:52.03 | Zungo | Aaah, got it |
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| 07:53.52 | Zungo | hmph, i have one kinda strange issue (i've run parted magic but it kinda applies here): the HDMI audio sits in front of the actual conexant, what do i do? the ao722 talks about intelhda. |
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| 07:54.34 | Zungo | Any ideas? |
| 07:55.01 | Zungo | i want to pinpoint known issues of my machine so i can install it without too many flaws |
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| 07:55.42 | petern_ | Er, things like that are not installation options. |
| 07:55.52 | petern_ | Install it, then see if you have a problem with audio. |
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| 07:55.59 | Zungo | in summer im going to buy a new computer and send my win7 there, and im definitely installing an "Long Term" linux for my computer |
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| 07:57.21 | Zungo | petern_: im currently experiencing the audio issue with any "live", the proper audio is never the primary audio, HDMI one is :/, i've tried with Parted magic, may be different but seems i got it better sorted with fedora xD |
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| 07:57.46 | petern_ | On any full install you will have the tools available to select the default soundcard. |
| 07:57.59 | petern_ | Maybe you do with a live image, I've never used one. |
| 07:58.28 | Zungo | How? because i havent seen any good gui thing for that |
| 07:58.55 | petern_ | Personally I click on the volume status icon, then settings, and there I can choose the soundcard. |
| 07:59.02 | babilen | Zungo: Install pavucontrol and choose whatever output sink you want to use. But please, we really only support Debian in here and these hypothetical questions are just impossible to answer. I am sure that there is *something* we can do about every problem you have (and if it means that you spend the next year learning C and developing the kernel module), but we don't know which problems you have or don't have until you installed. |
| 07:59.41 | Zungo | Okay........ |
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| 08:00.25 | Zungo | and i dont code, im a "dev maniac", i even understand code, but i cant *write* code |
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| 08:04.08 | d3lxa | I moved a computer root fs on a usb stick but it's quite old and I have major io wait right now, I need to change but I don't know which to choose, any tips for me plz? graphs http://i.imgur.com/Mi09yoe.png |
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| 08:06.01 | petern_ | Turn off atime in the mount options. |
| 08:06.07 | petern_ | HS |
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| 08:06.25 | petern_ | USB is inherently CPU bound though, so that should be pretty much expected. |
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| 08:09.17 | d3lxa | petern_: it's already to noatime, and usb-storage took 8 cpu-seconds for ~24h |
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| 08:10.06 | d3lxa | I think my usb stick is slow, I need to change it to a recent one, hopefully they are faster |
| 08:10.42 | petern_ | Yes, they generally are slow. If you want fast flash, you probably want an SSD. |
| 08:11.31 | d3lxa | I have in average 8 seconds of IO wait, I don't need lighting fast, I just don't want the worst case :S |
| 08:12.01 | d3lxa | I hope usb sticks can do better than 8 seconds right now… shouldn't be that hard? |
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| 08:13.14 | d3lxa | graph witness http://i.imgur.com/yuQQiDo.png :S pretty poor latency |
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| 08:14.46 | petern_ | Oh yeah, avoid writing to it if at all possible. |
| 08:14.59 | petern_ | Is that reads or writes? |
| 08:15.17 | d3lxa | good question, I don't know, munin doesn't say |
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| 08:16.47 | d3lxa | I'll try to buy a good usb stick, aronud $15, try to format to the stick block size; if it doesn't help I will do a aufs in ramdisk or whatever |
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| 08:18.21 | petern_ | $15 still seems cheap :p |
| 08:19.32 | d3lxa | petern_: I've found munin graphs for read/write http://i.imgur.com/iF3HGmQ.png yeah |
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| 08:21.40 | d3lxa | seems it's write latency around ~10 seconds, read is fine but not great |
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| 08:26.17 | d3lxa | yes $15 is cheap but it doesn't matter, if it solves the latency a bit, totally worth it, otherwise I don't know, it's a nas, I don't need much space for /, I can probably avoid writing to it altogether |
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| 08:27.27 | d3lxa | I just don't know which brand is good for latency |
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| 08:29.34 | Zungo | d3lxa: HP is a very good one, you might want to ask on ##hardware tho |
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| 08:32.05 | d3lxa | okay :) |
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| 08:45.50 | d3lxa | Zungo: thanks ^^ basically they say "don't install linux on usb stick", blabla, but they gave me some hardware hint |
| 08:46.41 | Zungo | Haha |
| 08:46.49 | Zungo | Good luck. |
| 08:48.24 | petern_ | fails at 'printing' with dia ;( |
| 08:49.00 | petern_ | Got a landscape diagram, go to print and a mostly blank portrait page comes up with a dotted line at one edge. |
| 08:49.09 | nightfly | I've had the best results exporting to SVG from dia and then actually laying out for print in inkscape |
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| 08:50.15 | petern_ | Ooh, I selected "scale to fit" and it's filled the page. In portrait. |
| 08:50.25 | petern_ | nightfly, I tried that, but half the lines go missing :( |
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| 09:03.59 | deed02392 | I have debian armel on a headless box, I want to use X forwarding for using things like jpeg renderers, what's the minimal I need to install on the headless box? (client has x-server) |
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| 09:07.53 | wols | deed02392: the X client of your choice and a ssh server |
| 09:08.18 | deed02392 | wols, great so there is such a thing as an X client, I could only see reference to servers |
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| 09:08.36 | nightfly | I think x client means application in this case |
| 09:09.15 | deed02392 | hmm nightfly there is surely a package that acts as a client/provider for the applications? |
| 09:09.20 | wols | deed02392: a X program is a X client. you need to install the X program you want to run obviously |
| 09:09.28 | deed02392 | oh I see |
| 09:09.32 | wols | deed02392: no. the applications do |
| 09:09.42 | deed02392 | so I just need to find an X based image viewer |
| 09:09.57 | wols | deed02392: if you want to make sure only the really really needed packages are installed, you need to disable recommends |
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| 09:10.22 | deed02392 | I think I do. This is a raspberry pi and I literally have 0 bytes free on it right now |
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| 09:12.20 | linuxator | how to install gnome-shell themes? |
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| 09:18.31 | somiaj | linuxator: which gnome-shell themes are you talking about? |
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| 09:19.36 | somiaj | linuxator: there are some packages of themes in debian, look at the packages gnome-themes, gnome-themes-standard, gnome-themes-extras, but if you want to get one from say gnomelook (or whatever their site is) provided they are compadable with the version of gnome you have, install them in your $HOME dir per the instructions |
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| 09:21.21 | deed02392 | wols, looks like gpicview will do a good job |
| 09:21.38 | deed02392 | and you recommend I install it like so: apt-get install -R gpicview |
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| 09:28.56 | linuxator | what's the gnome-shell wheezy version? |
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| 09:30.36 | SynrG | ,v gnome-shell |
| 09:30.37 | judd | Package: gnome-shell on i386 -- wheezy: 3.4.2-7+deb7u1; jessie: 3.8.4-8; sid: 3.8.4-8; experimental: 3.12.0-1 |
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| 09:34.52 | vs73nx | hello, i am having a bit of grief with sudo dpkg --configure -a. when i run it i get this output > http://hastebin.com/luguxutupo.vhdl. it freezes at this output and remains unresponsive untill i do CTRL-Z. |
| 09:35.00 | vs73nx | whoops |
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| 09:36.54 | somiaj | vs73nx: are you running debian or ubuntu? |
| 09:37.10 | SynrG | Your paste service is crap, btwep |
| 09:37.16 | SynrG | Btw* |
| 09:37.17 | vs73nx | kubuntu 14.o4 |
| 09:37.29 | vs73nx | meh personal prefernece |
| 09:37.32 | SynrG | !ubuntu |
| 09:37.32 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 09:37.46 | somiaj | vs73nx: this is #debian, you should go ask ubuntu or kubuntu support for help on why their packages aren't configuring. (: |
| 09:38.01 | vs73nx | i know but dpkg is a debian program so i figured that this might be the better place to ask |
| 09:38.21 | vs73nx | i asked about dpkg on #ubuntu once and they told me to go to #debian |
| 09:38.24 | somiaj | the issue is not with dpkg but with the package. So ask the distro that made the package. (: |
| 09:38.27 | SynrG | It's unusably small and hovers a panel that obscures the paste when i pinch zoom |
| 09:39.03 | vs73nx | SynrG: doesnt happen when i open it |
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| 09:40.26 | SynrG | You're not on a 7" android tablet, i guess. Anyway, wrong channel. See #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
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| 09:41.08 | vs73nx | oh an android tablet... fair enough. ok thanks for the help anyways |
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| 09:54.40 | qolund_ | Hello, I've installed a fresh debian on a HP ProBook. on wheezy (the install iso) I were able to change luminosity, but upgrading to jessie made xbacklight -set 0 useless. I tried with fglrx, but it didn't helped. any idea ? |
| 09:54.59 | vs73nx | ok guys a real dpkg problem here... when i run sudo dpkg --configure -a i get a nice error ... -> http://hastebin.com/takelukufe.vbs |
| 09:55.19 | vs73nx | anyone know how to fix it? |
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| 09:57.36 | SynrG | vs73nx: you've been told where to go … please respect that we only support Debian |
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| 09:58.03 | vs73nx | this a dpkg problem not a package problem |
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| 09:58.25 | vs73nx | i wouldnt of asked here if it was a package poblem |
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| 10:02.18 | qolund_ | radeontool don't see my radeon, but lspci does. http://paste.debian.net/94659/ |
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| 10:03.48 | gan | Tell me if this is a stupid question
I just did apt-get upgrade on a server, but also after this "openssl version" returns 1.0.1e Should it not be 1.0.1g? Is it a patched 1.0.1e or am I not understanding security upgrades
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| 10:03.58 | gan | (wheezy) |
| 10:04.44 | wols | gan: read the topic. |
| 10:05.06 | wols | and yes, it's a backported patch with 1.0.1e |
| 10:05.28 | wols | qolund_: if you are unlucky, radeontool doesn't yet know about your 8000 series radeon |
| 10:05.35 | qolund_ | Ok, there is no 'MARS' chip in man radeon. |
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| 10:05.50 | gan | sorry for not reading topic :) And thanks. |
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| 10:06.36 | petern_ | Weird how people leave it 2 weeks after the incident... |
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| 10:06.45 | wols | qolund_: most likely it misses the PCI ID. this mars is simply an Oland chip |
| 10:06.59 | qolund_ | Thanks. |
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| 10:08.15 | qolund_ | I'm going on #radeon, I think it's better. |
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| 10:11.11 | Zungo | Hey, help me with stuff not covered in this guide (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Acer/AspireOne_722) ???? |
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| 10:11.49 | Zungo | 1) i have a conexant hermosa audio device and the hdmi always steals #1 "slot" of audio list |
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| 10:12.01 | Zungo | and thus i get no sound |
| 10:12.12 | Zungo | is jessie worth upgrading also? |
| 10:13.17 | petern_ | So use the appropriate tool to pick the card you want. |
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| 10:14.01 | petern_ | What environment did you install? |
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| 10:18.18 | qolund_ | interesting, in the data about the OLAND chip of my MARS there is «TAHITI» dmesg | grep -E 'drm|radeon' | grep -iE 'firmware|microcode' > http://pastebin.com/hV0VruXW |
| 10:18.39 | petern_ | Zungo, example proving that multiple cards is not a problem: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22889721/Screenshot%20from%202014-04-20%2011%3A15%3A26.png |
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| 10:20.25 | Zungo | oh lol |
| 10:20.47 | Zungo | petern_: i havent installed debian yet, just to be ready |
| 10:20.59 | Zungo | i plan to install debian as long term distro |
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| 10:21.31 | petern_ | As we said earlier, just do it. If you still have problems after installing, let us know. |
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| 10:22.05 | Zungo | Okay. |
| 10:22.17 | Zungo | oh just to be ready |
| 10:22.21 | Zungo | im not sure about the wifi |
| 10:22.47 | Zungo | petern_: ^ |
| 10:22.48 | wols | Zungo: what wifi card is it? |
| 10:22.54 | Zungo | i dont remember the model |
| 10:22.58 | Zungo | but its a broadcom |
| 10:23.12 | Zungo | lookup 2011 acer aspire one 722 bz454 |
| 10:23.16 | wols | then you must know beforehand. what OS is it running now? |
| 10:23.16 | Zungo | mid 2011 |
| 10:23.21 | Zungo | windows 7 |
| 10:23.42 | Zungo | and thats the stock os (well, it came with that os but i reinstalled XD) |
| 10:24.07 | wols | !BCM4313 |
| 10:24.07 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727) - incorrectly identified as BCM4727 by Broadcom's proprietary driver - is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset. Not supported by the <b43> driver at this time. For device support, ask about me about <brcmsmac>, <wl>. Not to be confused with the <bcm4331>. |
| 10:24.18 | wols | you can check in windows 7 what wlan chip you have just fine |
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| 10:24.50 | wols | and from what google says, it is supported with the proprietary wl kernel module by broadcom |
| 10:25.46 | Zungo | lol :P |
| 10:26.03 | Zungo | so'll need to include the deb in the media? |
| 10:26.13 | Zungo | along with nonfree-framework? |
| 10:26.26 | SilentElse | any chance for some MySQL support related to debian? as I did something a little dumb |
| 10:26.39 | Zungo | Oh, Windows doesnt tell me the exact model of my wifi card |
| 10:26.43 | Zungo | it does for the lan tho |
| 10:26.48 | Zungo | which is a qualcomm |
| 10:26.57 | Zungo | qualcomm atheros |
| 10:27.00 | Zungo | wols: ^^^ |
| 10:27.34 | wols | windows 7 tells you the exact PCI ID which means it tells you the exact model |
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| 10:28.55 | SilentElse | I've installed mysql server via .deb, then apt-get install the client. but during the client install I fubared the "my.cnf" and now the client can not open a socket with the server. |
| 10:29.35 | Zungo | wols, regardless of drivers ? |
| 10:31.31 | Zungo | wols: wifi ID: PCI\VEN_14E&DEV_4727&SUBSYS_051014E&REV_01 |
| 10:32.05 | Zungo | and &CC_028000 (instead of subsys) |
| 10:33.27 | Zungo | wols: *knock* |
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| 10:56.59 | jcalonso | Im having an issue with rsyslogd using 100% cpu (4 processes ) they belong to the user 'ais' and if I stop rsyslog (service rsyslog stop) it wont make any effect, I tried killing them one by one with kill -9 but they keep re-spawning. any ideas? |
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| 10:58.58 | MoonGNatRouth | I've got gnome3. When I type Ctrl+Alt+F1 - I have just black screen instead tty, But I can back with Ctrl+Alt+F7. What's wrong? How can I get tty? |
| 11:01.00 | Zungo | MoonGNatRouth: have you tried f2, f3, etc? |
| 11:01.07 | Zungo | maybe theres no tty there |
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| 11:02.00 | MoonGNatRouth | Zungo, yeah, I have tried f1..f7. |
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| 11:02.33 | Zungo | even f8-f12 and beyond? |
| 11:03.10 | MoonGNatRouth | Zungo, is it matter? but yes. |
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| 11:16.37 | wols | jcalonso: what is the UID number of "ais"? |
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| 11:19.08 | jcalonso | wols uid=104(ais) gid=110(ais) groups=110(ais) |
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| 11:19.59 | wols | so you have openais installed and it's buggy I guess |
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| 11:28.37 | jcalonso | im running proxmox |
| 11:28.51 | jcalonso | i dont know if its included on it |
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| 11:54.31 | afsal | takes more time to booting in debian wheezy on dell lap |
| 11:56.15 | afsal | it reads recent boot files also. How to decrese the time to boot |
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| 11:57.38 | afsal | how remove these unwanted processing while booting time?? plz help me |
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| 11:58.29 | wols | !bootlog |
| 11:58.29 | dpkg | bootlogd is used to record boot messages to /var/log/boot. For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later releases, install the bootlogd package to enable. In Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", bootlogd is provided by the sysvinit-utils package; set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes in /etc/default/bootlogd to enable. |
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| 12:00.55 | afsal | wols: the what i do to increase speed |
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| 12:02.03 | wols | !in |
| 12:02.03 | dpkg | i guess in is India. For Debian India, see #debian-in |
| 12:02.21 | wols | afsal: and before you can "DO" anything, you need to diagnose first |
| 12:02.40 | afsal | wols: ok |
| 12:03.02 | afsal | so i installed bootlogd |
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| 12:10.25 | fromthehill | I have images of debian 7.4.0 as /store/*.iso files. How to tell apt-get to get files from this iso images? prefferably without mounting them. Or if needed, after mounting to /mnt/debdvd1 /mnt/debdvd2 ... |
| 12:10.51 | fromthehill | to use this instead of online network mirrors |
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| 12:12.39 | wols | fromthehill: google will tell you https://www.google.com/search?q=install+via+apt-get+from+iso |
| 12:13.41 | wols | fromthehill: you can also use aptoncd (should show up in the results too) |
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| 12:14.05 | afsal | fromthehill: you can open iso files in archive manager. The packages are located inside "pool" directory. |
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| 12:15.41 | Tylertwo | I'm trying to use encFS to encrypt data that then gets backed up via Dropbox. So to test I backed up some encFS encrypted data via Dropbox, and then downloaded that data and tried to decrypt it with encfs. It worked for text documents that were in the parent directory, but it wouldn't even show files contained within subdirectories. Any ideas? |
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| 12:35.21 | Tylertwo | Hmm, think I may have solved it with mkdir -p to make the parent directory in Dropbox as opposed to just mkdir. |
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| 12:44.13 | tissi | hello |
| 12:44.27 | tissi | i seem to have a problem resuming from hibernation |
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| 12:44.42 | tissi | a certain application does not resume when i wake the computer up |
| 12:44.53 | tissi | and i have to resume it manually |
| 12:45.00 | tissi | causing slight inconvenience |
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| 12:48.20 | Zungo | do someone have an acer aspire one 722 bz454 or VERY similiar to the model ? |
| 12:48.21 | rgr | how do you resume it "manually"? |
| 12:49.44 | wols | !tell Zungo about anyone |
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| 12:50.23 | Zungo | :( srsly? |
| 12:52.08 | rgr | unfortunately yes. |
| 12:52.15 | rgr | tissi: ^^ |
| 12:52.43 | Zungo | :/ |
| 12:53.22 | ompaul | Zungo: so ask the full correct question and see what happens next |
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| 12:53.53 | biketron | Hi i got a Problem with my Dell Studio XPS-1340 I can't get the Headphone working well. I already tried all the module parameters but nothing worked so far.... The Problem itself is quite Interresting it is not the case that there is no sound on the output.. it seems that the left and right channel are mixed in some strange case |
| 12:54.09 | biketron | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.49 | ompaul | biketron: so you are saying you have one channel stereo? |
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| 12:55.14 | ompaul | biketron: so you are saying you have one channel of stereo whichyou can push out both speakers? |
| 12:55.38 | kilobug | biketron: I'm not really a sound expert, but you can try with and without pulseaudio to see if it's related to it or lower level, may help to locate the problem |
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| 12:56.25 | tissi | i mean i just start the application again |
| 12:56.35 | tissi | its the phc undervolting program |
| 12:56.43 | tissi | i just launch the sh |
| 12:56.56 | tissi | i have added it to autostart |
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| 12:57.15 | biketron | ompaul: i tested with aplay so i expected that there is no pulse audio.... The speakers sounds oke (as you can say sth. about notebook ones) |
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| 12:57.34 | tissi | when i boot up the computer it starts |
| 12:57.42 | tissi | but when i hibernate and wake up |
| 12:57.48 | tissi | the volts are back up again |
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| 12:57.59 | biketron | yip the source 1channel stereo (L+R) |
| 12:58.00 | tissi | and i have to launch the application manually, thats the problem |
| 12:58.38 | ompaul | tissi: sounds like you have found a bug in their program if other things are respecting the hibernate ... suggest you either (A) file a bug against the package (B) check if it happens in other distros (which I guess it does) |
| 12:59.00 | ompaul | biketron: what are you using for stereo source? |
| 12:59.25 | biketron | ompaul: its an wav file 44khz 16bit.. |
| 12:59.47 | biketron | but you can use any source .. all the same |
| 13:00.28 | ompaul | biketron: it works without headphones? |
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| 13:03.54 | MktWizard108 | dpkg guidelines |
| 13:03.55 | dpkg | 1) Read the /topic, the FAQ, and google before asking us. 2) Don't ask to ask, just ask. 3) Don't repeat; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question. 4) Reading documentation (man/info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill, practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots (not the people), see <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste into a <pastebin>, not here. 8) No trolls or spam. |
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| 13:04.35 | biketron | ompaul: jep as i can say it works without headphones |
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| 13:07.48 | ompaul | biketron: sad to say that sounds like a hardware problem |
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| 13:08.26 | ompaul | biketron: speaker vs headphone output is a physical thing but why does head phone lose half a track |
| 13:08.41 | biketron | ompaul: it doeas not lose it |
| 13:09.09 | ompaul | biketron: then I don't understand what is happening. You have a Left And Right output stream |
| 13:09.16 | ompaul | one of them goes away or something |
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| 13:09.31 | biketron | ompaul: It seems to mix L+R signal together in an bad way |
| 13:10.13 | ompaul | sounds like the mechanicals of the switch as you plug in your head phones |
| 13:10.18 | ompaul | or a bad set of headphones |
| 13:10.40 | biketron | ompaul: I also tried the other Headphone output and tested the Pair of headphones |
| 13:10.56 | ompaul | so then it is most likely the mother board connection |
| 13:11.05 | ompaul | if it gets to the speakers ok |
| 13:11.26 | biketron | ompaul: The discussting thing is that some freqencies got cut off |
| 13:11.29 | ompaul | only thing I would do is run alsamixer and make sure nothing looks wrong, i.e. all balanced |
| 13:11.34 | MoonGNatRouth | I've got gnome3. When I type Ctrl+Alt+F1 - I have just black screen instead tty, But I can back with Ctrl+Alt+F7. What's wrong? How can I get tty? |
| 13:12.21 | ompaul | biketron: if it works in speakers, then the problem is with the output to the headphones |
| 13:12.29 | ompaul | it is not the software |
| 13:12.38 | ompaul | or it would drop stuff going to the speakers |
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| 13:14.52 | biketron | ompaul: just to not talk wrong: i Got 1 Soundcard with 3 Independent outputs |
| 13:15.29 | biketron | ompaul: 1 Internal Speaker 2 Headphone Jacks |
| 13:15.41 | ompaul | and what do you use day to day? |
| 13:16.03 | ompaul | the sound card with independent outputs does it have a head phone jack? |
| 13:16.25 | biketron | this is the problematic card ;) |
| 13:16.41 | ompaul | biketron: turn off the internal card in the bios (whatever you have) and see how that impacts things |
| 13:16.53 | ompaul | biketron: standard issue since day one answer :) |
| 13:17.16 | ompaul | biketron: tends to work miracles |
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| 13:17.23 | ompaul | whatever miracles are |
| 13:17.31 | biketron | ompaul: i just have this 1 card and disabling would end up in having no sound anymore ;) |
| 13:17.53 | ompaul | biketron: eh ... you have something that drives the internal speaker |
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| 13:18.00 | ompaul | biketron: eh ... two outputs |
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| 13:18.13 | biketron | ompaul: yes the internal card also drives the Speaker |
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| 13:19.02 | biketron | so it basically should also work on the 2 remaining headphone ports |
| 13:19.07 | ompaul | for headphones - biketron if you can't work out what I'm getting at and you keep drip feeding me info I can't really help - my only (and last) suggestion is visit the bios and disable onboard sound which should allow your other card work (assuming you have described it right) |
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| 13:19.28 | ompaul | biketron: is there one card for all the box |
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| 13:19.51 | biketron | ompaul: As i told in my first post is a Notebook |
| 13:20.10 | ompaul | and it gives you two head phone outputs |
| 13:20.16 | ompaul | both on the notebook |
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| 13:21.05 | flobi | hey, happy easter, i have a question about bug reporting. im not sure where to report it... i belive it is in the kernel... |
| 13:21.17 | ompaul | !bdo |
| 13:21.17 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 13:21.19 | ompaul | hem |
| 13:21.23 | ompaul | !bugs |
| 13:21.26 | dpkg | error: could not parse |
| 13:21.42 | ompaul | !bug |
| 13:21.43 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 13:21.55 | flobi | ompaul, thx |
| 13:22.07 | ompaul | flobi: your welcome - a bit slow today |
| 13:22.29 | biketron | ompaul: cerrect both outputs from the same card |
| 13:22.49 | ompaul | biketron: not what I asked |
| 13:23.03 | ompaul | biketron: I'm being very exact in that question, please read again |
| 13:23.16 | flobi | ompaul, should i reporte it in the kernel or in the cups (wich loads the kernel modul) |
| 13:23.26 | biketron | ompaul: yes this card has 2 headphone outputs |
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| 13:23.54 | ompaul | biketron: what model notepad is it |
| 13:24.10 | ompaul | has trouble parsing your output in relation to the question |
| 13:24.19 | biketron | ompaul: Yes the notebook has 2 Headphone outputs |
| 13:24.39 | biketron | arhj |
| 13:25.07 | biketron | it is an Dell Studio XPS M1340 |
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| 13:25.40 | biketron | With an Nvidia MCP79 Chipset and Hybrid Powered Grpahics Card |
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| 13:25.47 | bravocat | hello |
| 13:26.13 | bravocat | I already searched but to no avail, maybe missed something...I have .enc file I want to open |
| 13:26.19 | bravocat | It's supposed to hold archive of my emails |
| 13:26.23 | biketron | The Codec is an IDT 92HD73... |
| 13:26.48 | bravocat | found some programs to open it for Windows, but I'm using Debian |
| 13:26.52 | bravocat | (obviously) |
| 13:27.04 | biketron | Loading the kernel module with different parameters didnt solved the problem |
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| 13:28.07 | biketron | bravocat: what do you expect in the .enc file? |
| 13:28.41 | bravocat | my email archive |
| 13:28.51 | bravocat | downloaded from my provider, right now |
| 13:29.09 | bravocat | but I cannot find any documentation on their site |
| 13:29.34 | biketron | bravocat: what does file tell you about it? |
| 13:29.52 | bravocat | I don't have this command, let me apt-file search for it |
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| 13:31.15 | biketron | it is in the file package ... |
| 13:31.38 | biketron | whois bravocat |
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| 13:32.28 | ompaul | ho yea |
| 13:32.32 | ompaul | ho ho ho |
| 13:32.39 | bravocat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.45 | biketron | ^^ |
| 13:32.49 | ompaul | no comma no space :) |
| 13:32.54 | bravocat | yeah |
| 13:32.59 | bravocat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.02 | biketron | forgot the / |
| 13:33.02 | bravocat | without space at the beginning |
| 13:33.04 | biketron | ^^ |
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| 13:33.25 | bravocat | hey, why give NSA all the fun? ;) |
| 13:33.42 | biketron | they tried to ssh my server xD |
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| 13:34.34 | biketron | bravocat: so now you got file? |
| 13:35.08 | bravocat | one second |
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| 13:38.09 | bravocat | file command says simply: "data" |
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| 13:39.54 | biketron | bravocat: what provider it is? |
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| 13:41.49 | biketron | ompaul: i think it is sth in the kernel module... i'll try to fix it inside... |
| 13:41.56 | bravocat | safe-mail.net |
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| 13:44.30 | cryptic | my machine supports UEFI--should I bother using it? |
| 13:44.41 | ompaul | no |
| 13:44.42 | ompaul | !next |
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| 13:44.54 | cryptic | why not, ompaul? |
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| 13:44.59 | qolund_ | I cant change brightness with my radeon HD 8xxxM, is it only a driver issue ? (tried {fglrx,radeon}{wheezy,jessie,sid}) |
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| 13:45.03 | cryptic | I truthfully cannot think of one benefit it offers |
| 13:45.06 | ompaul | cos it doesn't have to be used |
| 13:45.09 | ompaul | there you go |
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| 13:45.22 | ompaul | full answer, full disclosure I don't see any point in it |
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| 13:45.48 | cryptic | BIOS will be here forever |
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| 13:46.03 | ompaul | maybe - on x86 |
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| 13:46.54 | cryptic | my guess is that UEFI is to prep us for "secure" booting, where "trusted hardware" is used to "improve" your experience |
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| 13:47.16 | biketron | bravocat: so i would expect that it is an gpg file |
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| 13:47.44 | ompaul | cryptic: only time will tell and offtopic chats are welcome in #debian-offtopic |
| 13:48.01 | biketron | have you tried to open it with an text editor and see if there is some header Information in this file? |
| 13:48.34 | bravocat | it makes some sense |
| 13:48.36 | bravocat | there is some header |
| 13:48.43 | bravocat | readable |
| 13:48.51 | bravocat | after this, after several informations, it's encoded |
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| 13:50.05 | biketron | bravocat: something like --- BEGIN PGP ... ---? |
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| 13:51.26 | bravocat | err, nope |
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| 13:51.53 | silv3r_m00n | over here, http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/ what is the difference between testing and testing-updates ? |
| 13:52.02 | silv3r_m00n | and testing-proposed-updates |
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| 13:53.43 | cryptic | final question: what's the point of using an MPT partition scheme? |
| 13:53.53 | cryptic | GPT, sorry |
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| 13:54.34 | Babalau | guys, i wanna ask something not related to Debian ... just want a vote :) |
| 13:54.37 | Babalau | i want to purchase a web domain for a web design company. I can't seem to decide between those 3: LDesign / DDesign / 24Design ... anyone care to share a vote ? :) |
| 13:55.07 | centrx | silv3r_m00n, Presumably testing-updates is empty and testing-proposed-updates would be used during a freeze for updates to testing |
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| 13:55.19 | centrx | !vote |
| 13:55.28 | centrx | !poll |
| 13:55.29 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
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| 13:56.46 | biketron | bravocat: it seems that safe-mail have their own file format |
| 13:57.35 | bravocat | biketron: that's all you know? |
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| 13:57.44 | bravocat | or is there some documentation? |
| 13:57.59 | bravocat | (that I looked for but didn't find) |
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| 13:59.15 | wols | cryptic: the main reason is for disks >2TB you want to boot from. compatibility with windows+UEFI, having more partitions. etc |
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| 13:59.56 | biketron | bravocat: a didnt found anything it may would help if you show us the file header |
| 14:00.00 | cryptic | wols: what's to stop someone from partitioning a >2TB disk to have a /boot partition? |
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| 14:01.14 | wols | cryptic: nothing. but you still need a MBR+GPT hybrid then. MBR simply cannot handle disks with more than 2TB |
| 14:01.33 | bravocat | several lines, will paste, not too long |
| 14:01.35 | bravocat | Safe-mail Archive Begin |
| 14:01.42 | bravocat | Date: 20 Apr 2014 09:36 |
| 14:01.44 | wols | bravocat: don't do it here |
| 14:01.54 | cryptic | wols: got it, thanks |
| 14:01.55 | bravocat | Owner: <my-email address> |
| 14:02.12 | biketron | okey this definitly look like and properitary file format based on xml |
| 14:02.13 | bravocat | Size: <size> |
| 14:02.14 | bravocat | that's it |
| 14:02.21 | bravocat | then there is rubbish |
| 14:02.43 | Babalau | noone wants to vote ? :( |
| 14:02.52 | bravocat | I mean, not rubbish, my precious emails :-) |
| 14:02.58 | bravocat | but encrypted |
| 14:03.20 | cryptic | oh shaving cream, it looks like resetting CMOS doesn't get rid of UEFI mode |
| 14:03.28 | cryptic | that's not okay |
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| 14:04.01 | owncloudguest139 | hey does someone use partclone ? im wondering why it is so slow running it in debian while it is fast from clonezilla boot cd |
| 14:04.36 | owncloudguest139 | its about 1/3 of the speed of the livecd |
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| 14:07.06 | biketron | bravocat: the only thing i found on the safemail sites is how to export the address book and hints where you could specify the output format |
| 14:09.31 | biketron | 1 sec i have to reboot.. |
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| 14:12.08 | sylvesterTheCat | Hi to all. I would like to install the package "ettercap" on Debian Wheezy. But this package is only available for testing and oldstable releases. How can I solve it? |
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| 14:13.11 | bravocat | biketron: hello back |
| 14:13.23 | bravocat | I think I will just write an email to the support team |
| 14:13.27 | bravocat | it can wait |
| 14:13.33 | biketron | bravocat: thx I think you should contact the support |
| 14:13.51 | bravocat | if I can't read it, I still can just mass-forward all emails to my bigger email account |
| 14:13.56 | bravocat | dirty, but works |
| 14:14.11 | biketron | or setup your own mailserver xD |
| 14:14.56 | bravocat | yeah |
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| 14:15.04 | bravocat | another solution ;) |
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| 14:15.33 | flobi | as soon i load the module parport_pc my screen goes blank .... |
| 14:16.04 | bravocat | I'm off, thanks guys |
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| 14:16.54 | motuleno | MOHAMMED GAVE BLOWJOBS TO HIS GRANDSON: |
| 14:16.55 | motuleno | SURA 52:24 |
| 14:16.55 | motuleno | And there shall wait on them [the Muslim men] young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls. |
| 14:16.55 | motuleno | Hadith Number 16245, Volume Title: The Sayings of the Syrians, Chapter |
| 14:16.55 | motuleno | Title: Hadith of Muawiya Ibn Abu Sufyan: I saw the prophet pbuh |
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| 14:16.59 | motuleno | sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the |
| 14:17.01 | motuleno | prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet |
| 14:17.03 | motuleno | sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire) |
| 14:17.05 | motuleno | He (the Prophet) lift up his (al Hasans) shirt & kissed his (little) penis.. |
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| 14:17.07 | motuleno | روى أنه صلى الله عليه و سلم قبل زبيبة الحسن أو الحسين |
| 14:17.09 | motuleno | He (the prophet) kissed the (little) penis of al Hasan or al Husein |
| 14:17.11 | motuleno | رأيت النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته |
| 14:17.14 | motuleno | He (the prophet) put Huseins legs apart & kissed his (little) penis |
| 14:17.16 | motuleno | Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9 مجمع الزوائد لعلي بن أبى بكر الهيثمي |
| 14:17.19 | motuleno | رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته |
| 14:17.22 | motuleno | رواه الطبراني و إسناده حسن |
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| 14:17.24 | motuleno | translated in English: I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Huseins legs apart & kissing his (little) penis. |
| 14:17.29 | motuleno | Related by Al-Tabarani & its authentication is good. |
| 14:17.31 | motuleno | Face it your prophet who you consider perfect had sex with young boys including his grandso |
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| 14:44.25 | narcos | Hi all. How I can create a Desktop icon programatically? |
| 14:44.50 | narcos | Or shall I just dump a .desktop file? |
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| 14:54.38 | BW^- | what on earth! |
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| 14:54.44 | BW^- | that CD is in there, I can mount and ls it!!! |
| 14:54.47 | BW^- | what's wrong? =) |
| 14:55.02 | BW^- | the installer which i just got all up to this point, installing all the base ssystem, |
| 14:55.02 | BW^- | asks me for its own CD |
| 14:55.05 | BW^- | ...!?? ? |
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| 14:55.56 | BW^- | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=111541 suggests my ISO is corrupt.. hmm! |
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| 14:57.33 | Solak | Hello. |
| 14:58.29 | Solak | What was the usual way again to add a key for a repositorey (as apt-get update complains about an unknown key)? |
| 14:58.35 | Solak | -e |
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| 15:09.21 | BW^- | my ISO has a good MD5! |
| 15:09.24 | BW^- | so it's not that! =( |
| 15:09.52 | BW^- | what could it be? |
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| 15:10.52 | someone_ | Hello. I have a question about CPU. I want to encrypt my full system. There is a AES-NI-feature in some CPU's - so I have heard that it make only sense with SSD. If you use HDD the speed-win isn't significant. Is that true? |
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| 15:16.12 | BW^- | aha, the installer says in my syslog that it can't find "apt-cdrom" |
| 15:16.16 | BW^- | um |
| 15:16.46 | nkuttler | someone_: not sure what you mean? speed win with encryption? |
| 15:16.51 | Juslintek | hey guys I got myisamchk_log file, how can I filter it for directories only and put them into another file, then feed it to myisamchk -r? |
| 15:17.10 | nkuttler | BW^-: are you networked? you could just remove the cdrom lines from your sources.list |
| 15:17.21 | Juslintek | or just feed it directly with filtered directories to broken databases |
| 15:17.37 | Juslintek | tables* |
| 15:17.39 | BW^- | nkuttler: i am |
| 15:18.01 | BW^- | nkuttler: so when in the installer, there's no /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 15:18.02 | someone_ | @nkuttler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES_instruction_set |
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| 15:18.31 | BW^- | nkuttler: Umm, and /target/ is empty! |
| 15:18.32 | nkuttler | someone_: you don't encrypt disks to speed up things |
| 15:18.39 | BW^- | nkuttler: where's the target system supposed to be mounted? |
| 15:18.41 | careta | someone_, what do you want to know specifically? If you have a cpu with AES-NI it will reduce the cpu load with hdd or ssd |
| 15:18.47 | BW^- | it already installed all the base so it should be somewhere, hm |
| 15:18.55 | nkuttler | BW^-: odd.. which installer are you using? |
| 15:18.57 | BW^- | unmounted already?? |
| 15:19.00 | BW^- | nkuttler: netinst |
| 15:19.02 | nkuttler | BW^-: have you rebooted? |
| 15:19.06 | BW^- | installing from CD to a SD card |
| 15:19.07 | BW^- | no |
| 15:19.14 | nkuttler | BW^-: stable installer? |
| 15:19.34 | BW^- | aha, here we go - |
| 15:19.54 | BW^- | nkuttler: somehow, my machine erroneously considered my SD memory card reader to have been disconnected |
| 15:19.58 | BW^- | whereas that was not the case |
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| 15:20.24 | BW^- | it's done that a couple of times, generally incorrect disconnect of the USB wifi dongle leads to incorrect disconnect of the SD USB stick |
| 15:20.40 | BW^- | nkuttler: so that was the answer :) |
| 15:20.40 | BW^- | great, more clarity :)) |
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| 15:21.49 | someone_ | I have heard that AES-NI is very useful if you are using SSD. But if you are using HDD the performance shouldn't drop very much without AES-NI. The question I have: I have a CPU (Intel Core i3-3110M) without AES-NI but I want to encrypt my system. Should I buy a other CPU or is it also OK without AES-NI? |
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| 15:22.59 | careta | someone_, you should be fine, but expect a performance drop anywhere between 10 and 20% |
| 15:23.06 | careta | that is a natural consequence of encryption |
| 15:23.23 | careta | if you buy a cpu with aes-ni, it goes down to 2-5% |
| 15:23.56 | someone_ | @careta: OK, thank you! |
| 15:23.59 | careta | rough numbers, completely unscientific, but that's my experience |
| 15:24.11 | careta | alternatively you can buy a SSD with built in encryption like the Intel 520 |
| 15:24.19 | careta | that's what I did because I have an old laptop and don't want to upgrade |
| 15:24.35 | careta | its performance is almost like a new one especially when couple with 8GB |
| 15:25.08 | nkuttler | someone_: fwiw, i encrypt all my disks with out aes, no problem |
| 15:25.36 | nkuttler | someone_: but i guess the most demanding thing i do is to watch hd video |
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| 15:25.53 | careta | of course Intel might have backdoored the disk for NSA to snoop on you |
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| 15:26.29 | careta | so if you are hiding something illegal, then go for the LUKS encryption. if you are looking just to hide your data from someone stealing your laptop or whatever, go for SSD encryption |
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| 15:27.28 | someone_ | @nkuttler: So you think the Intel Core i3-3110M CPU with system encryption is bearable? |
| 15:28.19 | careta | someone_, I have a core 2 duo and its fine. As nkuttler said it depends what you are doing with your computer |
| 15:28.48 | dutchfish | i rather rely on the kernels encryption schemes, and when that form of encryption is really needed, i gladly offer 10% performance, in case of disaster HD buil in ones can be a reall PITA (when spindles brake, and they do) |
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| 15:29.11 | careta | Core 2 duo does not have AES-NI encryption and its pretty old but I lived with it encrypted for years before I bought the ssd |
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| 15:29.27 | careta | no probs at all, but I don't play games |
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| 15:30.09 | someone_ | I want to install Debian or Lubuntu. With the computer I will surf the internet, office-applications and perhaps work on pictures with GIMP but no playing games. |
| 15:30.24 | careta | dutchfish, yes that's true, but no matter what you should have (encrypted) backups |
| 15:30.46 | dutchfish | careta, yes yes, always redundacy |
| 15:31.04 | careta | someone_, you should be fine. Don't forget to encrypt all the partitions, including swap, if you want to be secure |
| 15:33.04 | someone_ | Thank you all |
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| 15:58.12 | crane | *meh* i think i pretty much screwed my system up... when i start gdm3 i just see crazy artefacts. my xorg.conf contains for my nvidia card the driver nouveau, an id and the pci place of my card. any ideas? |
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| 16:01.28 | mtn | crane: have you tried it after renaming the xorg.conf, so you don't have an xorg.conf when booting? |
| 16:02.24 | crane | mtn, i have an configuration, you mean booting without any config can help me for now? |
| 16:02.46 | zykotick9 | crane: at one time, did you have propritary nvidia installed? keep in mind, it blacklists the nouveau module |
| 16:02.56 | mtn | crane: it might very well help. give it a try |
| 16:03.23 | mtn | crane: zykotick9 made a very good point |
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| 16:03.37 | crane | zykotick9, i removed the propritary driver and also his blacklist |
| 16:03.51 | zykotick9 | crane: ok |
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| 16:05.40 | zykotick9 | crane: with nouveau you shouldn't _need_ an xorg.conf (using xorg.conf.d for any required snippets is suggested) |
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| 16:07.05 | crane | zykotick9, hmm... i will remove them and have a look |
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| 16:07.56 | zykotick9 | crane: see "/msg dpkg xorg.conf.d" for details, but i'd strong suggest trying without an xorg.conf to see what happens |
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| 16:08.38 | crane | nope... still a crazy screen :D |
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| 16:17.04 | crane | hmm... it has something todo with the nouveau driver. after blacklistung it i have no crazy artefacts |
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| 16:18.06 | Smert | hi |
| 16:18.19 | zykotick9 | crane: what driver is x using? "lscpi -k" find VGA section, then kernel driver in use |
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| 16:20.02 | incruiser | Aloha everyone! |
| 16:20.03 | zykotick9 | crane: SORRY. that's "lspci -k" typo |
| 16:20.09 | crane | zykotick9, i guess i fixed it for now... by installing the properitary driver from nvidia *nasty workaround* but... let's give them a shoot to proof me that they can writer better software now |
| 16:20.36 | zykotick9 | crane: :) |
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| 16:24.39 | crane | mtn, zykotick9, i guess i can live with it for now. thx guys :) |
| 16:24.54 | mtn | crane: :) |
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| 16:26.28 | crane | prays for that day where vga cards are no black magic with linux and have the same power than on a windows machine |
| 16:27.28 | wdbl | why is it called "expert install" when it makes everything easier for newbs such as myself? Without expert install mode, I'd have to configure all of this stuff manually after the install |
| 16:27.56 | wdbl | also why isn't sudo installed by default? |
| 16:27.59 | centrx | wdbl, Without expert install mode, those options are configured automatically using sensible defaults |
| 16:29.05 | wdbl | centrx: I see |
| 16:29.07 | wdbl | ty |
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| 16:49.11 | wdbl | Happy Ishtar all :) |
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| 16:54.15 | dnalor | my system boots into initramfs unless i unplug all other disks. any hint on how to troubleshoot this ? |
| 16:54.17 | utry | hello. |
| 16:54.45 | utry | is there a way to turn on dns caching system wide, without having to install a local name server? |
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| 17:00.19 | detha | utry: think about that statement. if there is no local caching nameserver, what would cache system-wide? I hear dnsmasq is easy to configure. |
| 17:01.02 | utry | detha: i thought glibc might have some caching built in to the nsswitch system. but if it doesn't, i suppose i need a daemon. |
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| 17:01.16 | petern_ | There's nscd |
| 17:01.33 | petern_ | It's still a daemon, and I don't know if it actually caches dns. |
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| 17:02.23 | petern_ | (I remember SuSE used to install it by default, and it caused a few problems, so... bleh) |
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| 17:19.11 | sweb | i have same problem |
| 17:19.12 | sweb | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=112344 |
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| 17:19.16 | sweb | try difrenet mirror |
| 17:19.21 | sweb | but problem not solved |
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| 17:22.21 | sweb | ? |
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| 17:25.28 | centrx | sweb, That is a pretty in-depth problem description, and you say you have the exact same problem? |
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| 17:34.55 | eqisow | So I've got a server running debian Wheezy. I've updated openssl to 1.0.1e-2+deb7u5 but (https://filippo.io/Heartbleed) still says the server is vulnerable even after a full reboot. Anybody heard of that happening or have a suggestion? |
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| 17:35.45 | centrx | eqisow, Did you install all security updates from security.debian.org ? |
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| 17:36.24 | eqisow | centrx: yeah I have the repository enabled and everything is up to date |
| 17:36.47 | eqisow | deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security wheezy/updates main |
| 17:37.37 | centrx | eqisow, What does this command show for versions: dpkg -l openssl libssl1.0.0 |
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| 17:39.03 | eqisow | centrx: 1.0.1e-2+deb amd64 for both |
| 17:40.59 | centrx | eqisow, There is nothing after the "deb" ? |
| 17:41.21 | eqisow | centrx: nothing |
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| 17:41.47 | eqisow | full pastebin: http://pastebin.com/GdBihmDa |
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| 17:42.31 | centrx | eqisow, Try expanding your terminal window so the column is wider? |
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| 17:43.04 | eqisow | centrx: haha, thanks. now it's: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 |
| 17:43.24 | centrx | for both? |
| 17:43.35 | eqisow | yes |
| 17:43.46 | centrx | eqisow, Then you are patched |
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| 17:45.04 | eqisow | centrx: does that mean you think the test at https://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ is faulty? |
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| 17:46.02 | centrx | eqisow, It would seem so, if you really rebooted after installing the update, and the DNS address matches the server you think is patched |
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| 17:47.13 | eqisow | definitely rebooted, and I'm using the same hostname for ssh and for the rest |
| 17:47.24 | eqisow | checkrestart says Found 0 processes using old versions of upgraded files |
| 17:47.33 | eqisow | for the test* |
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| 17:48.26 | centrx | eqisow, You can download a tester to test the exact exploit yourself |
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| 17:48.54 | eqisow | hmm, okay. thanks for the help centrx. |
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| 17:49.24 | centrx | eqisow, Or you could have some non-Debian duplicate installation of openssl on your system |
| 17:49.28 | SynrG | it's possible to have a third-party extension |
| 17:49.29 | SynrG | yeah |
| 17:49.50 | SynrG | i encountered at least one case where someone was using some google-provided thing |
| 17:50.00 | centrx | eqisow, an openssl that is compiled into whatever service you are testing |
| 17:50.28 | eqisow | ahh, hmm |
| 17:50.33 | eqisow | well I am using lighttpd |
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| 17:51.14 | eqisow | But it's the official debian lighttpd package |
| 17:52.08 | nonconve1gent | I've got an issue with my laptop. I've got gnome power manager running along with laptop_mode, and sometimes when I hook up my charger, it keeps toggling between charging and fully charged. |
| 17:52.14 | SynrG | in the case i'm thinking of, it wasn't the web server itself, but some module used with it |
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| 17:52.38 | SynrG | it was provided from a non-debian source and embedded an old, vulnerable libssl |
| 17:53.20 | eqisow | I think the only non-debian package I have installed is mumble server, but that's def not what is being checked |
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| 17:53.52 | eqisow | Looks like the McAfee website also says the server is still vulnerable |
| 17:56.12 | eqisow | Honestly, nothing on this server is important enough for me to care that much, but I'm concerned it might be something that affects other users. This is a ver standard lighttpd installation |
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| 18:02.00 | tjjtjt | How do I install a firmware ? |
| 18:02.16 | tjjtjt | I have the file but I don't know where to put it |
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| 18:05.00 | nonconvergent | tjjtjt: Firmware for what? You need to use firmware that matches the kernel. |
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| 18:05.33 | tjjtjt | This https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux.debian.user/_VMzGjiXsTk |
| 18:05.35 | nonconvergent | tjjtjt: That's why we use firmware packages. |
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| 18:07.01 | rvdv | most times firmware is provided in a deb package ... installing that is nothing more as dpkg -i package_name |
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| 18:08.53 | nonconvergent | tjjtjt: Everyone in that thread seems to know what they're doing. Try readin the whole thing. rvdv also told you what you have to do. |
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| 18:09.36 | tjjtjt | I can't find the .deb file |
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| 18:11.14 | rvdv | tjjtjt: which firmwware ... which link your looking at? |
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| 18:11.37 | tjjtjt | I downloaded this http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpackages.debian.org%2Fsqueeze%2Ffirmware-realtek&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG264e_RAfr2B5pSmO7yFvppG5IBg |
| 18:11.39 | tjjtjt | sigh |
| 18:11.46 | tjjtjt | https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-realtek |
| 18:12.28 | rvdv | So you download the deb file? |
| 18:12.36 | rvdv | https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-realtek/download |
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| 18:13.01 | tjjtjt | no that's not what I downloaded lol |
| 18:13.05 | tjjtjt | okay ill try that |
| 18:13.36 | rvdv | but ... I just see this is for squeese |
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| 18:13.46 | rvdv | squeeze |
| 18:13.55 | rvdv | not for wheezy |
| 18:14.32 | mtn | tjjtjt: why not use the package manager? |
| 18:14.42 | rvdv | You are running squeeze ? |
| 18:14.42 | tjjtjt | I think it's wheezy im not sure |
| 18:14.55 | tjjtjt | mtn: i have no internet in that computer atm |
| 18:15.01 | tjjtjt | and can't plug ethernet |
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| 18:15.33 | rvdv | do in a terminal cat /etc/issue |
| 18:15.45 | mtn | tjjtjt: there is an installer that has firmware with it: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 18:16.24 | tjjtjt | rvdv: debian gnu/linux 7 |
| 18:17.26 | rvdv | I am running jezzy .. and see Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid \n \l ... but I guess version 7 is wheezy |
| 18:17.43 | rvdv | jessie* |
| 18:17.59 | tjjtjt | mtn: so it would be something like this http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.4.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.4-amd64-gnome-desktop+nonfree.iso ? |
| 18:18.58 | mtn | tjjtjt: that is one of them, yes. if it is the one you want. |
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| 18:20.06 | tjjtjt | Actually I had a problem |
| 18:20.19 | tjjtjt | I was trying to install debian 2 days ago and accidentally deleted windows I think |
| 18:20.21 | tjjtjt | brb |
| 18:20.28 | tjjtjt | nevermind so |
| 18:20.44 | tjjtjt | is there any way I can uh go back to windows? |
| 18:20.54 | tjjtjt | it had something to do with grub |
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| 18:22.17 | jelly-home | !flw0 |
| 18:22.20 | dpkg | (about reiser) < dan2> abrotman: it's always worked fine for me |
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| 18:24.01 | tjtjt | back. webchat disconnected me |
| 18:24.36 | tjtjt | so is there any way i can make grub recognize windows again? |
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| 18:25.14 | mtn | tjtjt: run update-grub as root and see if it sees windows |
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| 18:26.12 | tjtjt | well nothing really says windows |
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| 18:26.30 | mtn | tjtjt: are sure windows is still on the drive? |
| 18:26.42 | tjtjt | no |
| 18:26.58 | mtn | tjtjt: fdisk -l in a terminal |
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| 18:27.50 | tjtjt | what am i supposed to see with that? |
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| 18:28.37 | mtn | tjtjt: paste it to http://paste.debian.net and give us the link |
| 18:28.56 | MoonGNatRouth | tjtjt, why do u think that u deleted windows? |
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| 18:30.47 | BW^- | just to be sure I got it, Debian Weezy uses Linux 3.2 , i.e., an ancient kernel? |
| 18:30.59 | BW^- | whereas the latest kernel is at 3.14 i.e. 12 versions ahead? |
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| 18:31.19 | tjtjt | http://paste.debian.net/94717/ |
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| 18:32.00 | rvdv | OK that solved my NSA syndrome :-) |
| 18:32.16 | BW^- | are there any Linux 3.14 kernel binaries available for use wiht Weezy? |
| 18:32.33 | mtn | tjtjt: nope, no windows showing. only linux. |
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| 18:32.47 | BW^- | perhaps I should just switch to jessie or sid? |
| 18:32.48 | ompaul | rvdv: :) |
| 18:32.56 | mtn | BW^-: check out backports |
| 18:33.07 | tjtjt | mtn: okay so what now |
| 18:33.17 | BW^- | mtn: ah right, good idea! thanks |
| 18:33.20 | mtn | tjtjt: what now about what? |
| 18:33.26 | mtn | BW^-: yw |
| 18:33.34 | BW^- | mtn: so this should bring both the kernel and the ATH9K USB drivers and alike with it right? |
| 18:33.44 | BW^- | mtn: (that's a driver the kernel bundles) |
| 18:33.56 | mtn | BW^-: yes, I believe so |
| 18:34.02 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 18:34.03 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.14-trunk-686-pae (3.14-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.10-1); jessie: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.7-1); wheezy-backports: 3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.13.7-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.54-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
| 18:34.03 | tjtjt | i need internet on it, already installed the firmware altought may have been for the wrong version |
| 18:34.29 | somiaj | BW^-: you can get 3.13 from backports, will be a few weeks until 3.14 makes it there (giving normal progression of things) |
| 18:35.04 | BW^- | somiaj: is ok - i just want a pretty-decently-new ATH9K driver, that's all |
| 18:35.08 | BW^- | thanks for pointing out |
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| 18:36.05 | BW^- | judd: when I "aptitude install" one of those, will the modules be switched for me automatically too? |
| 18:36.31 | wols | BW^-: judd is a bot. yes the kernel modules will be 3.13 ones |
| 18:36.39 | BW^- | aha ok. aha great. |
| 18:36.48 | somiaj | BW^-: judd is a bot, and yes you get all the modules with the kernel. If you need firmware you can get the newer firmware from wheezy-backports as well |
| 18:36.55 | somiaj | !tell BW^- about wheezy-backports |
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| 18:37.06 | BW^- | yeah i found the description on the web and added to sources.list |
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| 18:38.14 | omnipotentduo | happy easter |
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| 18:38.52 | omnipotentduo | anyone know a good resource for building drivers/modules for asus motherboards? |
| 18:39.33 | AwesomeDragon | Hello Guys |
| 18:39.39 | somiaj | omnipotentduo: I see an XY problem here, why do you want to build drivers and not use the ones provided in the linux kernel? |
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| 18:40.25 | AwesomeDragon | Does anyone know an archive that i can protect with a password so that also folders and filenames are not visible? |
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| 18:40.45 | omnipotentduo | somiaj, i'd rather use kernel modules, however most of my components aren't recognized by current kernel releases |
| 18:40.58 | AwesomeDragon | and does anyone know a method to mount password protected archives with read and write access? |
| 18:41.41 | somiaj | omnipotentduo: by current do you mean the 3.2 kernel in wheezy, or the upstream 3.14 kernel? Or do your components have say third party dirvers that you get from them and want to compile against your current kernel? |
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| 18:43.07 | omnipotentduo | somiaj, both 3.2 in wheezy and 3.14 on kernel.org as well as 3.15-rc2 |
| 18:43.48 | somiaj | omnipotentduo: I don't have any good pointers for you, maybe try ##kernel or the linux kernel channel,maybe they can point you to resources that they use when building new modules |
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| 18:44.19 | somiaj | omnipotentduo: I guess I don't buy new enough asus mobo's, mine seem supported wit hthe current kernels just fine. (: |
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| 18:44.46 | omnipotentduo | alright, i've done some kernel patching before (ie: wlan, sound), and honestly that would be my preference |
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| 18:45.05 | BW^- | what's an example of a Debian mirror that has wheezy-backports? |
| 18:45.26 | BW^- | they're not in ftp.it.debian.org nor .ch. |
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| 18:46.19 | omnipotentduo | yeah thats the problem a couple of months ago i built this machine after geting back on my feet, and it is newer chipsets |
| 18:46.35 | omnipotentduo | BW^ what mirror are you looking for? |
| 18:46.39 | BW^- | um... looks like wheezy's backports were "integrated with the main archive"? |
| 18:46.50 | BW^- | ah i got it |
| 18:47.02 | BW^- | these instructions are incorrect: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 18:47.07 | BW^- | ah no no no |
| 18:47.07 | BW^- | ok |
| 18:47.10 | BW^- | got it. |
| 18:47.34 | BW^- | thanks. :} |
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| 18:47.59 | somiaj | BW^-: how are they incorrect, they say put the "deb http://YOURMIRROR.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main" which is correct, and then apt-get -t squeeze-backports install "package" -- though of course you change that to wheezy-backports |
| 18:48.19 | BW^- | somiaj: exactly - i read it wrongly |
| 18:51.33 | omnipotentduo | join ##kernel |
| 18:52.09 | omnipotentduo | gah sorry about that |
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| 18:52.56 | AwesomeDragon | and does anyone know a method to mount password protected archives with read and write access??? |
| 18:54.53 | rvdv | AwesomeDragon: mount archives? ... what you want to do? |
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| 18:55.26 | AwesomeDragon | just read and write files from/to them. |
| 18:55.53 | AwesomeDragon | https://code.google.com/p/fuse-zip/ does just not support password protection |
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| 18:57.03 | AwesomeDragon | rvdv, |
| 18:57.25 | rvdv | AwesomeDragon: sorry ... not my playinng field |
| 18:57.54 | rvdv | Not have an answer |
| 18:58.25 | AwesomeDragon | i think i will have to build a two step script. |
| 18:58.40 | ghenry | hi all, anyone seen a process called w00t and toptel? Just get high load alerts for it on a Proxmox server. ps auxf shows a weird process downloading stuff. |
| 18:58.45 | ghenry | inside /tmp |
| 18:58.53 | AwesomeDragon | one for zipping and one for archiving. |
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| 18:59.56 | BW^-_ | password: then what about this one? http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-ANT2414A |
| 18:59.57 | BW^-_ | +14dbi |
| 18:59.59 | BW^-_ | 3x the price |
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| 19:01.33 | mattdorian | hello, i switched to Kubuntu 14.04 a few days ago because a big windows crash (4 different malwares, who killed nearly all my backups). Now I want to mount my external hdd, but Linux cant mount it. Whatever solutions I try, nothing happens. And Linux did not mount it automatically. I really need help! |
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| 19:02.09 | naoCessa | mattdorian: have you installed ntfs support? |
| 19:02.30 | mattdorian | yes. |
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| 19:03.07 | mattdorian | Isnt it Standard in Kubuntu 14.04? I think so |
| 19:03.24 | naoCessa | I don't know, I don't use kubuntu, me like Debian |
| 19:03.52 | shingouz | mattdorian: ask in #ubuntu, they know what is going on |
| 19:05.52 | mattdorian | thanks |
| 19:08.22 | AwesomeDragon | other question: Does anyone now an archive type where password protection also protects the list of folders and files? |
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| 19:10.59 | naoCessa | now thats a good question. Never worried about |
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| 19:13.17 | AwesomeDragon | naoCessa, where is the point of password protecting your porn when anyone can see that there are files like tentacles_and_witches.mp4 in it? |
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| 19:15.13 | naoCessa | for that I do backups, in external encrypted harddrives |
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| 19:16.05 | naoCessa | let me search the bit oracle |
| 19:16.09 | naoCessa | big* |
| 19:16.11 | AwesomeDragon | but i want it also save on non-encrypted disks. |
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| 19:16.41 | Sleepy63 | you can use tar (or zip with no copmpression) to glob all the files together into one file with some anonymous filename, then zip that one file |
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| 19:17.06 | hoxu | AwesomeDragon, what are you looking for, .tar.gpg? |
| 19:17.20 | AwesomeDragon | Sleepy63,i already thought about that one, a bit complicated, don't you think? |
| 19:17.38 | kRush | .7z |
| 19:17.42 | NiLon | rar with password? |
| 19:17.56 | AwesomeDragon | rar also shows the folder and file names. |
| 19:18.02 | Sleepy63 | the .zip file format specifically leaves filenames unencrypted. i don't know about other compression formats |
| 19:18.04 | kRush | you prolly want something like a truecrypt container |
| 19:18.28 | Sleepy63 | the downside of truecrypt containers is that their file size is fixed |
| 19:19.18 | NiLon | AwesomeDragon are you more intrested of protecting contents or that listing? |
| 19:19.26 | AwesomeDragon | basic stuff i want is: merge directorys to one file for faster transport, and protect them, so that noone can see what's inside them. AND the ability to access it easily, like mounting it. |
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| 19:20.01 | Spec | .tar.gz.gpg |
| 19:20.02 | Sleepy63 | if it's a fairly constant amount of data, use truecrypt |
| 19:20.07 | AwesomeDragon | NiLon, The content is already protected with normal password protected zip archive, but i would also like the folder and file names to be not visible |
| 19:20.11 | somiaj | why not create an encrypted partition on a file. Then the file isn't a zip/tar, it is an actual encrypted filesystem you can then mount as a loopback device? |
| 19:20.16 | hoxu | AwesomeDragon, what Spec said, except leave the gz part out, gpg compresses by default |
| 19:20.30 | Spec | oh, i didn't know that |
| 19:20.32 | naoCessa | agree with somiaj |
| 19:20.38 | Spec | but somiaj's idea is decent, too |
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| 19:21.55 | AwesomeDragon | Seems like my archiver does not support tar.gpg ;) |
| 19:22.07 | AwesomeDragon | and like there is no possibility to mount it. |
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| 19:23.23 | AwesomeDragon | somiaj,if you mean this LUKS stuff, that is a waste of disk space. |
| 19:24.13 | hoxu | AwesomeDragon, sounds like your requirements of usability etc can't be satisfied, look forward to hearing of your next project to satisfy the goals :) |
| 19:24.17 | NiLon | would it make sense to encrypt filenames and then just use regular rar or zip or whatever? |
| 19:24.38 | frostschutz | AwesomeDragon, if readonly is okay, a encrypted ISO is a common solution... |
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| 19:25.15 | AwesomeDragon | frostschutz, nope, i need read and write. |
| 19:25.38 | frostschutz | AwesomeDragon, LUKS with ext2 then |
| 19:25.41 | hoxu | AwesomeDragon, I think you've been given most of the alternatives already, but if you want further suggestions, please describe the exact usecase |
| 19:26.01 | frostschutz | AwesomeDragon, resize2fs can minify and then you can truncate the luks container accordingly |
| 19:26.45 | AwesomeDragon | i want a single file, that is fully protected, and i want to change the information on it easily., hoxu |
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| 19:27.20 | hoxu | AwesomeDragon, so as you've been suggested already, a loopback file with luks on it will do, or use truecrypt |
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| 19:28.03 | AwesomeDragon | but luks has a defined filesize. |
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| 19:28.32 | linuxthefish | why can users access other peoples stuff? |
| 19:28.36 | linuxthefish | in /home :/ |
| 19:28.46 | AwesomeDragon | atm my solution would be to zip and folder, encrypted with encfs |
| 19:28.52 | AwesomeDragon | http://ostechnix.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/how-to-encrypt-your-personal-foldersdirectories-in-linux-mint-ubuntu-distros/ |
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| 19:29.04 | somiaj | linuxthefish: ls -l /home -- look at the permissions. |
| 19:29.17 | AwesomeDragon | of course i would use the terminal version of it, and build a script. |
| 19:29.21 | linuxthefish | drwxr-xr-x for all folders |
| 19:29.29 | linuxthefish | drwx------ for one guy |
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| 19:30.01 | AwesomeDragon | hoxu, is truecrypt working similar to encfs ? |
| 19:30.18 | somiaj | linuxthefish: the one guy that is drwx------ you have to be either that guy or root to see his stuff, he has changed permissions to lock other users (Besdies root) out |
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| 19:30.26 | somiaj | the others you should jsut just fine |
| 19:30.42 | linuxthefish | yeah but other users can see other people's stuff! |
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| 19:30.55 | linuxthefish | like user thefat can see all of linuxthefish's stuff |
| 19:31.16 | terr1 | Can anyone recommend a good local dns cache for debian, simple to use? bind9 or dnsmasq? |
| 19:31.25 | somiaj | correct, because that is what drwxr-xr-x, do you wnt it to no users can see other suers stuff? |
| 19:31.31 | linuxthefish | yes! :( |
| 19:31.36 | linuxthefish | what are the defualt permissions? :/ |
| 19:31.53 | somiaj | linuxthefish: easy way 'chmod 750 /home/*' as root, the defaults are to make home dirs 755 you can change that |
| 19:32.30 | linuxthefish | phew, thanks! |
| 19:32.45 | hoxu | AwesomeDragon, no, it doesn't leak as much info as encfs does, and it's not an overlay over real filesystem, rather it uses a container similar to luks, read it up |
| 19:32.46 | linuxthefish | should i do that with -R ? |
| 19:33.09 | hoxu | linuxthefish, definitely no |
| 19:33.36 | linuxthefish | oh |
| 19:33.37 | somiaj | linuxthefish: just keeping everyone from excuting $HOME is enough to keep other suers out |
| 19:33.52 | linuxthefish | what permissions should /var/www have? |
| 19:33.55 | hoxu | linuxthefish, executable bit means different things for directories and files, so you almost never want to use octal modes with chmod -R |
| 19:34.05 | linuxthefish | oh |
| 19:34.12 | hoxu | linuxthefish, /var/www should be readable by your httpd |
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| 19:34.33 | somiaj | linuxthefish: that depends on your setup, usually allowing everyone to read it is the default and the easiest, you can lock it down but be careful |
| 19:34.37 | linuxthefish | drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 Apr 5 19:00 www |
| 19:34.38 | linuxthefish | :/ |
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| 19:35.14 | somiaj | linuxthefish: if you want to change the defaults, modify /etc/adduser.conf and look or teh DIR_MODE -- set that to 0750 and that will be default with all new users added |
| 19:35.17 | linuxthefish | should i do chown "www-data:www-data -R" then "chmod 750 /var/www/*" ? |
| 19:35.20 | hoxu | linuxthefish, (somiaj): just a word of warning, some apps are unable to open directories under your $HOME if they can't get a listing for /home |
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| 19:35.44 | linuxthefish | oh |
| 19:35.48 | somiaj | hoxu: correct so if you need say public_html directories you need teh group www-data to have access to /home/username |
| 19:36.02 | linuxthefish | nah only root can do web stuff |
| 19:36.05 | somiaj | linuxthefish: ^^ |
| 19:36.16 | hoxu | linuxthefish, please read some basic information about how unix filesystem permissions work |
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| 19:37.13 | linuxthefish | so confusing! :( |
| 19:37.18 | somiaj | linuxthefish: if you want to keep other users out of /var/www you first have to change the ownership to root.www-data then change the permisions to 750 -- again just change the /var/www directory don't worry about the inside. |
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| 19:37.38 | linuxthefish | cheers |
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| 19:37.45 | hoxu | o+x is enough for /home to allow public_html to be read, but o-r was the one that can break some apps (if they require you to browse the hierarchy manually, so you can't get a listing of /home) |
| 19:38.07 | AwesomeDragon | hoxu, http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/creating-new-volume#Y266 at the "dynamic" part, it says that volumes with dynamic size can only be created on ntfs file systems? |
| 19:38.25 | AwesomeDragon | i would like to have my container work on every file system, and also over sshfs |
| 19:38.46 | hoxu | I would like a pony |
| 19:40.14 | AwesomeDragon | xD |
| 19:40.36 | AwesomeDragon | hoxu, i don't think that my requirements are sooo impossible |
| 19:42.27 | hoxu | AwesomeDragon, you've been given plenty of pointers, probably covering most common solutions, so I suggest you research and see if you find one that fits, or wrap something of your own on top of existing stuff (but don't do your own crypto) |
| 19:42.33 | linuxthefish | wtf this guy can still see all peoples files even with /home chmodded like this :/ |
| 19:43.16 | AwesomeDragon | it "this guy" root? |
| 19:43.21 | AwesomeDragon | *is |
| 19:43.24 | linuxthefish | no |
| 19:43.47 | linuxthefish | grr now my stupid VPS provider won't even let me restart my server, i killed sshd by accident trying to close his ssh thing :'( |
| 19:43.54 | AwesomeDragon | tried 700 instead of 750 ? |
| 19:44.09 | linuxthefish | i'll see, thanks :( |
| 19:44.12 | linuxthefish | restarting :( |
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| 19:52.00 | BW^- | ouch, so installing the 3.13 kernel from wheezy-backports, after installing it with "aptitude install" and doing "reboot", I now got thrown to the Debug console because /dev/disk/by-uuid/2ef...... doesn't exist |
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| 19:52.52 | hoxu | !tell linuxfish_ about permissions |
| 19:53.02 | BW^- | um, and the hostname changed to "dracut".. umm |
| 19:53.13 | linuxfish_ | i give up, thanks :( |
| 19:53.22 | linuxfish_ | i'll just hope nobody deletes other peoples stuff xD |
| 19:54.21 | hoxu | !be a reading manuals barbie |
| 19:54.21 | dpkg | Aww, reading manuals is HARD! Let's go shopping, hoxu |
| 19:54.27 | AwesomeDragon | with every users folder being 0700 noone exept the user the folder belongs to and root should be able to access it. |
| 19:55.03 | shierve | hey, I installed system updates and now I cannot open home folder or desktop... also, pidgin disappeared, i'm using empathy. And I cannot longer use GNOME classic, only the default GNOME |
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| 19:55.07 | shierve | damn |
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| 19:55.41 | BW^-_ | ouch, so installing the 3.13 kernel from wheezy-backports, after installing it with "aptitude install" and doing "reboot", I now got thrown to the Debug console because /dev/disk/by-uuid/2ef...... doesn't exist |
| 19:55.59 | BW^-_ | however grub still has a 3.2 bootup optin that works |
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| 19:57.09 | shierve | If I reinstall the whole OS what will I lose? Only things in the Home folder/desktop... right? |
| 19:57.30 | BW^-_ | so now how make the new kernel work.. *checking aorund* |
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| 19:57.40 | hoxu | shierve, a little bit of your soul every time |
| 19:57.42 | hoxu | !reinstalling |
| 19:57.42 | dpkg | from memory, reinstalling is what Windows users do to try to fix problems. Unix users read the errors and try to correct whatever's wrong. |
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| 19:58.08 | shierve | is everybody having problems with the new update or only me? |
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| 19:58.28 | petern_ | What "new update"? |
| 19:58.29 | hoxu | shierve, pastebin your sources.list |
| 19:59.12 | shierve | I just said I cannot open the home folder |
| 19:59.31 | shierve | what's the command to open sources.list from consloe |
| 19:59.36 | shierve | ? |
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| 20:00.53 | nkuttler | shierve: editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 20:01.28 | shierve | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 $ |
| 20:01.36 | shierve | deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main |
| 20:01.37 | nkuttler | !tell shierve about paste |
| 20:01.38 | shierve | deb-src http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main |
| 20:01.42 | shierve | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
| 20:01.44 | shierve | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
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| 20:01.48 | shierve | # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' |
| 20:01.50 | shierve | deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main |
| 20:01.52 | shierve | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main |
| 20:01.54 | shierve | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main |
| 20:01.56 | shierve | deb-src http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main |
| 20:01.58 | shierve | deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org [YOUR_DISTRO_VERSION] main |
| 20:02.00 | shierve | deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org wheezy main |
| 20:02.01 | BW^-_ | what would you do other than "aptitude install" for boot to work? hmm |
| 20:02.20 | AwesomeDragon | shierve, please use pastebin |
| 20:02.26 | BW^-_ | aha, so, the fstab goes by UUID and the new kernel doesn't use that.. |
| 20:02.28 | shierve | ups, sorry |
| 20:02.53 | petern_ | shierve, did you edit your sources list before you did this "new update"? |
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| 20:03.21 | petern_ | shierve, i.e. were you using Squeeze before? |
| 20:03.33 | shierve | no, I'm using wheezy |
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| 20:04.06 | shierve | I added a repository but it was one or two years ago |
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| 20:04.14 | shierve | not years, days lol |
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| 20:06.27 | shierve | I downloaded thttpd following a guide on the internet. I added a repository that seemed like an ubuntu one, but abter the apt-get install thttpd nothing really installed |
| 20:06.32 | hoxu | shierve, seems like you have duplicate sources there |
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| 20:06.45 | shierve | might be a virus? |
| 20:07.00 | shierve | what does duplicate sources mean? |
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| 20:08.15 | hoxu | shierve, you are using a local debian mirror but also http.debian.net for same sources |
| 20:08.33 | shierve | so, should I delete one? |
| 20:08.49 | BW^- | aha, let's throw in "aptitude -t wheezy-backports upgrade" and also phase out the UUID from /etc/fstab and see. |
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| 20:09.09 | shierve | also, how? I know how to do this things in GNOME classic but now I'm lost on the default one |
| 20:09.15 | somiaj | BW^-: you don't want to upgrade to every package in wheezy-backports. |
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| 20:09.36 | hoxu | unless he feels suicidal |
| 20:09.58 | shierve | i did aptitude -t wheezy-backports upgrade, it says that wheezy-backports is invalid for APT |
| 20:10.02 | hoxu | shierve, are you speaking of editing sources.list? Just do it with your text editor |
| 20:11.00 | BW^- | somiaj: it's only 38MB in total as I got it |
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| 20:11.56 | shierve | do I delete one of the sources with a text editor? |
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| 20:12.17 | BW^- | somiaj: that's what "aptitude -t wheezy-backports upgrade" does, switches all it can over to backports? |
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| 20:12.34 | shierve | interesting. Now i know why I can't open anything. Nautilus doesn't work |
| 20:12.37 | somiaj | BW^-: backports is not a full release, it only contains new (non tested) packges |
| 20:12.42 | hoxu | shierve, you should either use a local mirror or the http.debian.net one, and have main contrib non-free on same line |
| 20:13.01 | somiaj | BW^-: the packages should work with wheezy but if you upgraded to every strange package in wheezy-backports you may find your system buggy and non-stable (plus no security support) |
| 20:13.10 | BW^- | ouch. |
| 20:13.12 | Re1m0n | Hello. I know this is a known issue, but can't find a tutorial I can follow. No sound on intel-hda wheezy |
| 20:13.17 | somiaj | BW^-: you should only install the few packages you need from backports, and not upgrade to it. |
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| 20:13.30 | BW^- | somiaj: aha, so I better skip that then - rebooting and seeing if the UUID mounting issue is gone |
| 20:13.32 | somiaj | !tell Re1m0n about alsa checklist |
| 20:13.50 | somiaj | BW^-: correct if all you needed was the kernel, install the kernel stuff from wheezy-backports |
| 20:14.08 | somiaj | I'm surprised you had some UUID issue with the newkernel, but I didn't read the backlog so I am unsure about your actualy problem |
| 20:14.21 | BW^- | crap. |
| 20:14.53 | BW^- | somiaj: botting into 3.13 I get "dracut Warning: could not boot."\n "dracut warning: "/dev/disk/by-uuid/2ef...." does not exist" \n\n Dropping into debug shell |
| 20:15.07 | BW^- | perhaps I need to update my grub to not spec the root drive by UUID! |
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| 20:15.30 | shierve | how can I edit sources.list without nautilus? I can open it with gedit, but I can't save |
| 20:16.20 | somiaj | BW^-: but you can boot into the old 3.2 kernel just fine? |
| 20:16.35 | gintek | shierve: in terminal you can use vim/nano/mc etc, remember you must be root |
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| 20:17.52 | BW^- | somiaj: correct. |
| 20:17.52 | BW^- | somiaj: hmmm. how solve? |
| 20:17.52 | BW^- | the boot medium is an USB SD adapter :) |
| 20:18.02 | BW^- | i think i saw in the new kernel's dmesg that it does USB and recognizes the mouse, so it's not all upside-down |
| 20:18.05 | BW^- | somiaj: any thought? |
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| 20:18.41 | somiaj | BW^-: the uuid should not change and I don't see what is going on here. maybe rerun 'update-grub' |
| 20:18.54 | BW^- | exactly |
| 20:18.56 | BW^- | mhm |
| 20:20.08 | ghenry | seems it was http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Apr/240 and port 5666 for NRPE left open to the world via iptables that meant w00t get installed |
| 20:20.13 | somiaj | BW^-: I have no idea why installing a backported kernel from wheezy-backports would not just boot. Do you have some special module needed to read the device your root filesystem is on? Myabe you need to update the initd image |
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| 20:20.26 | BW^-_ | somiaj: . |
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| 20:20.41 | Re1m0n | aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav does NOT work for root, all others, checked |
| 20:20.53 | shierve | what's the command to save in nano? |
| 20:21.03 | Re1m0n | ctrl+o |
| 20:21.07 | shierve | thx |
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| 20:21.47 | somiaj | Re1m0n: ps fax | grep pulse or dpkg -l | grep pulse -- do you have pulseaudio installed and running? |
| 20:22.08 | BW^-__ | somiaj: i'll re-edit my fstab to remove uuid and try update-grub again |
| 20:22.09 | Re1m0n | Yes, I checked that list you passed |
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| 20:23.01 | Re1m0n | alsamixer does not list my soundcard, only says pulseaudio |
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| 20:23.03 | somiaj | Re1m0n: okay so just double check for my sanity (pulseaudio seems to be far more common these days and if you have it fine, but what I will suggest here may not work) |
| 20:23.18 | somiaj | Re1m0n: so again 'dpkg -l | grep pulse' -- do you see pulseaudio running? |
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| 20:24.10 | BW^-__ | somiaj: crap, that didn't do it either - it still goes for the UUID it can't find! |
| 20:24.15 | Re1m0n | Yes, I used ls -l /etc/rc`/sbin/runlevel | awk '{print $2}'`.d/S* | awk '{print $NF}' to see all daemosn running too |
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| 20:24.54 | BW^-__ | somiaj,*: okay, so in this Dracut boot, I have an "sr0" device |
| 20:25.01 | shierve | I've deleted one of the sources on sources.list, but my system is still fucked up |
| 20:25.03 | somiaj | Re1m0n: okahy if pulseauido is running use pavucontrol to control it |
| 20:25.14 | BW^-__ | perhaps the 3.13 kernel doesn't recognize the USB SD adapter?? |
| 20:25.29 | BW^-__ | ls /dev/ shows sr0, rtc0, vcs1, fd0, a bunch of tty:s, that's kind-of all |
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| 20:25.51 | Posterdati | hi |
| 20:25.53 | BW^-__ | sr0 seems to be the virtual boot mediu |
| 20:25.53 | BW^-__ | m |
| 20:25.58 | somiaj | BW^-__: more than likely the initrd image doesn't have the info to detect it which is important at boot |
| 20:26.08 | somiaj | BW^-__: which is why I suggested you may need to rebuild that |
| 20:26.12 | acidfu | Hi folks, is there a tool I can download to eat up all my cpu usage -- I'm trying to test how another software is reacting when it has less cpu time because another program is trying to take it all |
| 20:26.15 | acidfu | thank you |
| 20:26.31 | BW^-__ | somiaji: by "grub-update"? sorry, i was disconnecting badly all the time - how do i regenerate it? |
| 20:26.47 | Posterdati | please I'm running kde on wheezy, my apper graphical packages manager won't work, it stall on update/searching |
| 20:27.27 | acidfu | mm, I found stress, i'll give it a try |
| 20:27.36 | shierve | I don't have an antivirus. Is it possible a virus got on my pc and somehow destroyed nautilus? |
| 20:28.43 | somiaj | BW^-__: this should be done when the kernel is installed. maybe --purge the kernel and reinstall it and it will generate it correctly. |
| 20:28.53 | BW^-__ | aha |
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| 20:29.15 | Re1m0n | It all shows "working, but no sound and I did double-check, I have this machinhe running Windows as well |
| 20:29.26 | somiaj | BW^-__: there are tools that do this, it might be you have to manually fix the backported kenrel to get this to work. You have a setup I'm not familar with so I'm just giving you my thoughts. |
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| 20:29.33 | Re1m0n | IS there a spanish debian channel? |
| 20:29.38 | somiaj | !es |
| 20:29.39 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 20:30.04 | somiaj | Re1m0n: Do you have multiple sounds cards, have you used that pulseaudio control to set the correct one to use? |
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| 20:30.50 | Re1m0n | only one, yes, no virtual, only hardware, plane and simple CC-plugged pair of speakers. |
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| 20:34.24 | Re1m0n | pavucontrol does show "blue progress" like, to show graphically that is moving up and down volume, but no sound ata all, as if speakers were unplugged or not working |
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| 20:34.38 | BW^-_ | somiaj: back |
| 20:35.01 | Posterdati | shierve: a virus on linux? |
| 20:35.10 | shierve | I don't know damn |
| 20:35.39 | shierve | if I type nautilus in terminal tells me command not found |
| 20:35.40 | somiaj | BW^-_: did reinstalling work? |
| 20:35.56 | shierve | no, i haven't reinstalled .P |
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| 20:37.29 | shierve | how can I open the home folder without nautilus? |
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| 20:37.55 | BW^- | somiaj: ok, time to round up here :) |
| 20:38.03 | BW^- | if you have any final thought on these matters feel free to let me know :) |
| 20:38.16 | Re1m0n | I've seen in pictures that alsamixer is supposed to list my sound card as intel-.hda, as well as pulseaudio but it only says pulseaudio :( |
| 20:38.50 | somiaj | BW^-: no my thoughts are you are missing the modules in your initrd (ramdisk) image so it cannot find your root filesystem/device) |
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| 20:39.45 | Re1m0n | relogginfçg to recheck, brb |
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| 20:43.25 | shierve | is there any command I can use to open the home folder without nautilus? |
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| 20:44.48 | Re1m0n | As I try to load my soundcard on alsamixer, I get cannot load mixer controls: invalid argument. Same error shows as amixer something hw0: invalid argument during boot. |
| 20:45.24 | Re1m0n | xcuse my english, noone in spanish talks back |
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| 20:53.43 | Posterdati | please I'm running kde on wheezy, my apper graphical packages manager won't work, it stall on update/searching |
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| 20:56.54 | pokeswap | When I use live build, I get a segmentation fault. Apparently, it cannot make the ISO over 4gb. The packages themselves take up ~9gb + the size of the file system. How do I fix this to get a larger ISO? |
| 20:57.05 | pokeswap | (uname -a) Linux kali 3.12-kali1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.6-2kali1 (2014-01-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 20:58.37 | pokeswap | ./libisofs.so.6.58.0: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=0x41df23f8edd49e8639cf8086e17c364c098d9397, stripped |
| 20:58.51 | pokeswap | xorriso : NOTE : Copying to System Area: 432 bytes from file '/usr/lib/syslinux/isohdpfx.bin' |
| 20:58.51 | pokeswap | [16:48:07] <pokeswap> libisofs: WARNING : File "/live/filesystem.squashfs" can't be added to image because is greater than 4GB |
| 20:59.12 | shierve | I made some tests. It appears I do have nautilus but it doesn't work. I tried gksudo nautilus and it asks me for the password but doesn't open |
| 20:59.42 | pokeswap | closest thing from man: lb config [--isohybrid-options OPTION|"OPTIONS"] |
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| 21:00.57 | pokeswap | anything else needed 2 help w/ 4gb+ ISO from lb build? |
| 21:01.07 | pokeswap | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7256578/ |
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| 21:10.08 | gabriel_ | hello |
| 21:10.23 | Posterdati | ciao |
| 21:11.33 | gabriel_ | someone can help me with efi and debian? |
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| 21:13.28 | harmaahylje | gabriel_: probably if you ask a question |
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| 21:13.59 | gabriel_ | i'm use efi with my system, i've created the fat32 partition and installed grub in it |
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| 21:14.25 | gabriel_ | but i cant see any "UEFI: [...]" boot choice in the boot menu |
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| 21:15.25 | gabriel_ | now i booted the system using grub w/o uefi |
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| 21:33.16 | nitero | Hello. I'm trying to install Debian on a 64-bit machine, via 16gb USB stick, and trying to find a single image to download, and I can only find DVD images that seem to be split into 3 parts. Do I really need to use that, and can I really not get a single image to put on the USB stick? |
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| 21:33.52 | mtn | nitero: use a net install |
| 21:34.47 | mtn | nitero: or just disk 1 |
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| 21:36.27 | nitero | mtn, ah what about the live install? |
| 21:36.49 | mtn | nitero: you mean a live disk? I don't use them, but there are some |
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| 21:53.12 | slikts | stupid question, but can I install wheezy-backports in squeeze? |
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| 21:55.08 | petern_ | No. |
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| 21:56.15 | slikts | why do you hate squeeze |
| 21:56.35 | petern_ | Er... I don't, but wheezy-backports is for wheezy. |
| 21:56.37 | mtn | slikts: squeeze has its own backports |
| 21:56.47 | slikts | I can't seem to find nodejs in there |
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| 22:03.26 | SynrG | slikts: squeeze is ancient. It should not come as a shock nodejs isn't available for it. |
| 22:03.51 | slikts | but it wasn't ancient when I installed it |
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| 22:04.23 | mtn | heh |
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| 22:04.50 | SynrG | Things grow old and die. |
| 22:04.55 | SynrG | That's life. |
| 22:04.56 | slikts | what is this, ubuntu? |
| 22:05.08 | mtn | SynrG: hey, be nice. I am getting old :( |
| 22:05.20 | petern_ | No, because you can upgrade to Wheezy and it won't break everything. |
| 22:05.37 | slikts | petern_: we'll see |
| 22:05.52 | petern_ | Well, unless you like Gnome 2, I suppose. |
| 22:06.01 | slikts | it's a server |
| 22:06.17 | petern_ | You'd be surprised what people run on a server :S |
| 22:06.21 | slikts | for the desktop I fancy myself some Unity |
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| 22:07.01 | wegwarg | warning |
| 22:07.01 | wegwarg | you may be watched |
| 22:07.01 | wegwarg | do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to collect informations,can we call that spying?? |
| 22:07.01 | wegwarg | they ask for ur name,age,gender,occupation,location&sometimes political point of veiw?!?! |
| 22:07.01 | wegwarg | do they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations?? |
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| 22:08.42 | Sleepy63 | it wouldn't be irc without spam |
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| 22:14.52 | linuxator | where to get ambiance gnome-shell theme for Debian Wheezy? |
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| 22:18.31 | gabriel | hi |
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| 22:18.58 | gabriel | i'm tryng to boot from efi shell, but grub fails because it doesnt find normal.mod |
| 22:19.02 | gabriel | any hints? |
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| 22:40.03 | depoion-o | I want to reinstall openjdk as I no longer need the oracle\sun version how do I find the package? |
| 22:40.58 | Nik05 | apt-cache/aptitude search |
| 22:41.19 | depoion-o | thanks |
| 22:41.23 | linuxator | Empathy keeps disconnecting.how to fx this? |
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| 22:43.46 | slikts | fix your internet |
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| 23:39.57 | internat | is it possible to inplace upgrade from 32bit to 64? |
| 23:40.40 | abrotman | no |
| 23:41.18 | internat | balls. |
| 23:44.09 | bcobco | hi all. a question for those using PREEMPT_RT systems: does linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 work for you? in my system, it hangs early on boot with an ACPI error |
| 23:45.03 | themill | internat: it is possible and I've even done on it on a remote machine, but I'm not sure I'd recommend that sane people try it |
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| 23:45.56 | abrotman | was giving the sane answer ! |
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| 23:51.24 | martman | im trying to install python2.7-minimal:i386 on a 64bit box and for some reason apt wants to also remove a crapload of other things |
| 23:51.30 | martman | how can i get it to just install the damn package |
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| 23:55.13 | themill | martman: which release of debian? And why do you want a foreign arch python? |
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| 23:56.23 | martman | themill the latest release |
| 23:56.27 | martman | because i need the 32bit version |
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| 23:57.11 | themill | martman: latest release means nothing. wheezy? jessie? sid? And why do you need the 32 bit version? |
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| 23:57.25 | gabriel | hi, i can boot my efi debian with efi shell from bios, but when i reboot i get "insert prober boot media [...]" |
| 23:57.30 | gabriel | any help? |
| 23:57.34 | themill | ("I need the 32 bit version because I need the 32 bit version" doesn't provide any additional information) |
| 23:58.39 | martman | themill wheezy. and i need it for compatibility reasons, surprise surprise |
| 23:58.52 | martman | still cant wrap his head around why people have such trouble with that... |
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| 23:59.25 | themill | it's not possible in wheezy. If you provided some useful information, we might be able to help |
| 23:59.42 | martman | well that sounds like a load of shirt |
| 23:59.43 | martman | *shit |
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| 23:59.59 | martman | how can apt possible be that broken/worthless |
