| 00:00.07 | eltonyowosoa | Centrx, but this one is abit different |
| 00:00.17 | MrFrood | jacks_spleen: you should have a pm from the bot |
| 00:00.33 | jacks_spleen | oh cool |
| 00:00.41 | jacks_spleen | thanks for the info |
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| 00:01.08 | centrx | eltonyowosoa, Where did you get the source code from? |
| 00:01.19 | eltonyowosoa | Centrx, from SVN. |
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| 00:02.03 | eltonyowosoa | Centrx, let's say that i probly got these libs on my PC which uses Windows. can i use them on my VPS with Debian ? |
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| 00:02.31 | centrx | I am not sure what you are talking about |
| 00:02.54 | centrx | There is a github project called "The Forgotten Server" with modern compilation instructions for Debian |
| 00:03.09 | somiaj | ffog: google seems to suggest the same idea I had. Again what is it about a tty that y ou need that you cannot do in an xterm? http://superuser.com/questions/562657/x-on-one-monitor-a-bare-tty-terminal-on-another-linux |
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| 00:03.44 | eltonyowosoa | Centrx, And if you are intrested "svn://svn.otland.net/public/forgottenserver/tags/0.3.6pl1" here's the SVN. |
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| 00:06.02 | eltonyowosoa | Centrx, So ? |
| 00:06.54 | ffog | somiaj: i read that also. i'm just curious if it is possible. i know there are many ways to achieve the same basic thing |
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| 00:07.19 | centrx | eltonyowosoa, This svn repository doesn't seem to have a single date in it |
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| 00:07.28 | somiaj | ffog: that one had a comment about keyboards. I think if it were possible only one tty would have the keyboard so switching that would be an issue |
| 00:07.31 | eltonyowosoa | Centrx, what do you mean ? |
| 00:07.45 | centrx | Okay, last commit: r79 | elf | 2009-12-24 15:29:54 -0500 (Thu, 24 Dec 2009) | 2 lines |
| 00:07.52 | centrx | eltonyowosoa, That software is from 2009 |
| 00:08.09 | centrx | eltonyowosoa, I don't know why otland.net doesn't have any download/source code links on its page |
| 00:08.27 | eltonyowosoa | Centrx, It has source in it. |
| 00:08.27 | centrx | eltonyowosoa, But this software appears to have an active github repository at https://github.com/otland/forgottenserver |
| 00:08.30 | ffog | right |
| 00:10.59 | ffog | somiaj: also tty has a faster display than any terminal i've used in x |
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| 00:14.22 | eltonyowosoa | Centrx, So can i download these libs or not ? |
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| 01:38.39 | tharkun | Good $date, I have this isue. Evey time the time changes due to summer daylight savings my laptop happens to be turned off. Is there a way to make it fix the clock whenever it is reconected? I've though about installing ntpd but then I don't want to burden anyones servers but mine and those don't have ntp publicly available. |
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| 01:40.28 | centrx | tharkun, I assume there must be some package or configuration that will do it, but I've always used ntpdate |
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| 01:44.11 | swathe | tharkun: a cron job that runs the day DST kicks in? |
| 01:44.52 | tharkun | centrx: Thanks for your answer. Playing the devils advocate on it it really doesn't help me a lot to solve the isue I stated. But then I apreciate your time answering |
| 01:45.21 | tharkun | swathe: There most be a simpler way to do it. |
| 01:45.50 | swathe | does your isp provide ntp servers? |
| 01:45.56 | swathe | mine does |
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| 01:46.43 | peterrooney | tharkun: you can set NTP minpoll/maxpoll to 16/17, to have network activity down to about once every 18 - 36 hours |
| 01:46.44 | tharkun | nope but I have one ntp server at the office but it doesn't solve the isue since most of the time I'm on the run |
| 01:47.19 | centrx | tharkun, How can you justify using Freenode if you can't justify using the resources of a public NTP server? |
| 01:47.35 | tharkun | centrx: |
| 01:47.52 | swathe | public NTP servers are there to be used imo |
| 01:48.41 | tharkun | centrx: I justify Freenode by helping on a lot of other channels. Not precisely on Debian. Most of the time I give advice on solving isues. I seldomly ask for help. |
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| 01:49.48 | swathe | as peterrooney suggested I would just modify the poll rate |
| 01:49.50 | centrx | tharkun, Have you helped any Freenode servers lately? |
| 01:50.15 | centrx | NTP I think uses less than 256 bytes to get an updated time. You must have used more than that here already |
| 01:50.17 | tharkun | centrx: I will not comment on that. |
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| 01:51.15 | tharkun | swathe, centrx: I will follow peterrooney's advice. It seems to be the way to go. Although I'm not comfortable with it. |
| 01:52.08 | swathe | Not comfortable due to technical ability or do you have some form of objection to the suggestion? |
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| 01:53.42 | tharkun | swathe: I'm technically capable, I just don't feel it right to have my personal setup depend on someone elses hw to function properly. It is my responsabiltiy and I don't like depending on others. |
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| 01:56.15 | swathe | tharkun, I can understand that though I don't think ntp would bother me too much and if it did I'd just set up a personal VPS to do ntp duties |
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| 01:56.44 | centrx | It functions properly without the time too |
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| 01:56.55 | centrx | Time always requires depending on others |
| 01:56.58 | centrx | Clocks that is |
| 01:57.02 | peterrooney | tharkun: for a laptop, the only alternative to NTP I can think of is building a portable atomic clock. |
| 01:57.02 | swathe | though I totally sympathise in wanting to encapsulate all the services I like to run |
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| 01:58.19 | centrx | The very fact of using daylight savings time instead of UTC makes your clock dependent on recent legislation that changes the clocks at different times of the year. |
| 01:58.23 | Lewoco | During installation using debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso, which debian mirror should I select? |
| 01:58.39 | centrx | Lewoco, http.debian.net is always a safe choice |
| 01:58.40 | tharkun | peterrooney: Customs are piky when they detect radioactivity on your luggage ;P |
| 01:59.33 | Lewoco | centrx, Nope. That one doesn't appear to support jessie either... |
| 01:59.35 | peterrooney | Hadn't thought of that. No wonder I always get singled out. |
| 01:59.36 | centrx | Customs will have the time. Every time you go through customs, just ask them what time it is. |
| 01:59.47 | tharkun | centrx: tzdata does just that. I want to make the time be aware of it when the laptop happened to be off at the time of the change |
| 02:00.14 | centrx | wonders if he can convince Stallman to object to time zones as non-free |
| 02:00.31 | Lewoco | centrx, I'm beginning to think it might be better to restart the installtion using stable and then upgrading to testing after installation is complete. |
| 02:01.01 | tharkun | Anyway it seems there is no state on the clock that reveals if it is on DTS or not so fixing the isue requires the hw in question to be running to do the change. |
| 02:01.01 | centrx | dpkg, tell Lewoco about testing installer |
| 02:01.29 | centrx | Lewoco, So yes, that is actually the standard safe route. |
| 02:01.52 | Lewoco | lol |
| 02:02.23 | Lewoco | centrx, Thanks. |
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| 02:04.13 | peterrooney | Lewoco: I suspect that the "testing" installer is primarily for testing the installer, not the distribution. |
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| 02:04.27 | tharkun | Lewoco: peterrooney is right |
| 02:04.45 | peterrooney | tharkun: I am? How disorienting. |
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| 02:05.19 | tharkun | peterrooney: You could be wrong but I rather go with the flow ,P |
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| 02:06.42 | tharkun | IIRC the testing installer is by itself a program that needs to be tested also. When I've needed sid I usually install stable, then upgrade to testing the I do crazy stuff ;P |
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| 02:13.52 | s0m3b0dy | Hello, Im trying to transform my server's raid into RAID 0, it has a hardware raid, but it doesn't allow me to install the OS on the raid 0 "drive" |
| 02:13.59 | s0m3b0dy | any ideas how to fix it? |
| 02:14.59 | civillian | s0m3b0dy: sounds like debian installer doesn't have a driver for your raid subsystem |
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| 02:15.13 | civillian | s0m3b0dy: never mind that it's a terrible idea to use RAID 0 |
| 02:15.24 | s0m3b0dy | civillian: it's being installed through the datacenter's control panel |
| 02:15.28 | s0m3b0dy | sorry, should have clarified that |
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| 02:16.02 | civillian | s0m3b0dy: ? |
| 02:16.13 | s0m3b0dy | it is a rented server |
| 02:16.41 | civillian | VPS? |
| 02:16.45 | s0m3b0dy | dedi |
| 02:17.12 | civillian | does the installer see the drive? |
| 02:17.34 | s0m3b0dy | it's not a live install, it's done completely through their control panel (OVH) |
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| 02:17.47 | s0m3b0dy | so it's not like a screen install, you just tell it how to partition the drive and hit install |
| 02:17.50 | tharkun | s0m3b0dy: what raid card does your dedi has? Start from that point and look for the actual piece you need to solve your puzzle. |
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| 02:18.45 | s0m3b0dy | tharkun: I have no clue :/ I configured the raid array through recovery as one "drive", but Im not sure why either it's not showing up, or it's not actually created |
| 02:18.47 | tharkun | Unless you have a way to tell the control panel to look for the actual driver somewhere else your way is going to be a long and tortourouse wone. |
| 02:19.14 | s0m3b0dy | :/ they sent me a guide on how to do it, but I have no clue what it's telling me to do, so Im following blindly |
| 02:19.20 | s0m3b0dy | http://demold.ovh.net/download/5f2019e3c0937099dcd225054d66854c/linuxhardraidguide.pdf |
| 02:19.32 | tharkun | s0m3b0dy: Time to make a support ticket :) |
| 02:19.45 | s0m3b0dy | I did :P they sent me that link |
| 02:20.51 | tharkun | Will have to wait for someone else. I'm on a strict cli basis now. No graphics/pdf support for the moment. |
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| 02:21.20 | s0m3b0dy | tharkun: could you look at a pastebin link? |
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| 02:28.23 | swathe | s0m3b0dy: done a lspci to find out what card it is? |
| 02:28.28 | swathe | oh he quit.... |
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| 02:41.57 | Deesl | Hello, I am facing a strange error while updating redmine on Debian. the specific error I am getting is: NameError: undefined method `deep_symbolize_keys!' for class `ActiveSupport::HashWithIndifferentAccess' . What could be going on? |
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| 02:47.32 | centrx | Deesl, Maybe incompatible Ruby gems installed? |
| 02:47.50 | centrx | Deesl, Did you install redmine from the Debian repositories? |
| 02:48.12 | Deesl | centrx: yes, wheezy-backports |
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| 02:48.20 | Deesl | which could be the incompatible gem? |
| 02:50.04 | centrx | Deesl, The dependencies on that backports package look kind of funky |
| 02:50.11 | centrx | Deesl, It doesn't seem to depend on rails |
| 02:50.43 | Deesl | well, redmine is archaic on the main repo. 1.1.4 to be precise |
| 02:50.50 | Deesl | I needed 2.* for some plugins |
| 02:50.55 | Deesl | so I pulled in backports. |
| 02:51.06 | centrx | Wait here we go |
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| 02:51.25 | centrx | Deesl, Maybe you have an older version of Rails installed and it is using that for some reason |
| 02:51.39 | Deesl | okay. How do I find that out and more importantly fix it? |
| 02:52.15 | Deesl | while running an apt-upgrade it does say: Inconsistent link in vendor/rails, please remove manually |
| 02:52.24 | Deesl | although only rails 4.1.0 is installed. |
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| 02:53.41 | centrx | Deesl, The package depends on rails-3.2 |
| 02:53.55 | centrx | Deesl, So that could be it |
| 02:54.12 | Deesl | okay, so I should downgrade rails. How do I do that? |
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| 02:55.11 | centrx | Deesl, I don't know, I never use the Debian-packaged gems |
| 02:55.29 | Deesl | centrx: okay, let me try to get gem install rails --version 3.2.6 |
| 02:55.35 | Deesl | does that sound reasonable? |
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| 02:55.56 | centrx | Deesl, Yes, the only question is, if you have multiple versions, your command-line could be different |
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| 02:56.09 | centrx | but I guess it would use the same rails executable |
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| 03:01.05 | Deesl | okay downgraded rails to 3.2.6 but still the same problem |
| 03:01.47 | centrx | Deesl, Use paste.debian.net to show the full error message and backtrace |
| 03:03.07 | Deesl | http://paste.debian.net/94980/ |
| 03:03.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok peeps how do i get isc-dhcpd stop clear all the leases please? |
| 03:03.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | its annoying, i dont have any way to clear them out. |
| 03:03.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | i try to dev/null them out but that dont work either. |
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| 03:03.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | what can i do? i need to see what the actual ip is now. |
| 03:03.52 | centrx | Deesl, Okay, so you're redmine installation is still using a copy of Rails 4.1.0 that is on the computer |
| 03:03.58 | centrx | Deesl, /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/gems/activesupport-4.1.0/lib/active_support/hash_with_indifferent_access.rb |
| 03:04.19 | centrx | Deesl, It is installed as a gem under ruby 1.9.1 (1.9.3) |
| 03:04.41 | Deesl | so I have to downgrade all those gems, right? |
| 03:04.44 | centrx | Deesl, or maybe that is from a Debian package I don't know, but that's where it is |
| 03:04.55 | Deesl | okay let me downgrade activesupport |
| 03:04.58 | centrx | Deesl, Yes, or remove that version |
| 03:05.06 | Deesl | okay |
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| 03:05.36 | centrx | Deesl, Because there are Debian-packages gems, and non-Debian-packaged gems, and potentially multiple version of ruby on a system, there can be multiple copies of the same gem on the system |
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| 03:05.52 | centrx | Deesl, Not to mention rubygems supports installing multiple versions of the same gem inside the same ruby anyway |
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| 03:06.45 | Deesl | yeah but something else is screwed up... for example, gem list | grep activesupport reports back 4.1.0 and 3.2.6 |
| 03:06.53 | centrx | voila |
| 03:07.26 | Deesl | Now when I do gem uninstall activesupport --version 4.1.0, it complains about a few other gems depending on activesupport. On forcing, it does remove that version and gem list responds back with just 3.2.6 |
| 03:07.46 | Deesl | Now, if I do a gem uninstall activesupport a second time (just for kicks) it says gem not installed... |
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| 03:12.41 | centrx | Deesl, Also try #ruby / #ruby-lang |
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| 03:13.50 | Deesl | okay looks like nuking all the 4.1.0 gems got redmine working again. |
| 03:14.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok peeps how do i make it drop all of the leases for dhcp? |
| 03:14.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | i need to see if my device is making a new one and i want it to drop all of these old leases i dont need any more. |
| 03:14.30 | Deesl | Eryn_1983_FL: hang on a min. I remember I have done that, but I need to look up my notes. I can do that once I am done fixing my redmine |
| 03:14.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | cool beans Deesl thanks for the help |
| 03:14.50 | Deesl | Now, quite a few gems like sprockets, rails-observer were only having 4.1.0 installed. So I assume those are not required? |
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| 03:22.27 | Deesl | Eryn_1983_FL: did you try deleting your leases file? |
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| 03:23.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | yup both, on both nodes |
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| 03:26.51 | Deesl | did you stop the dhcpd prior to deleting the leases? |
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| 03:28.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah, |
| 03:28.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok now the leases are gone |
| 03:29.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | i i have to actually delete them not just /dev/null them sigh |
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| 03:36.22 | Deesl | :| |
| 03:36.34 | Deesl | I think I asked you if you *deleted* them |
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| 03:36.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | well the restore was a mistake and lost me a few hours , had to reset the camera sigh, |
| 03:36.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | going to have to configure them manually |
| 03:36.49 | Deesl | what camera? |
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| 03:38.23 | kruug | When I do `sudo apt-get update` I get a few Ign lines and I have a ppa that's bad (I don't even know where that came from). How can I clean my sources.list? |
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| 03:42.29 | somiaj | kruug: did you install some random .deb deisgned for a ubuntu ppa? |
| 03:42.47 | somiaj | kruug: check the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and the file /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:42.51 | kruug | somiaj: I may have, but I'd be damned to remember which |
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| 03:43.09 | somiaj | kruug: if you have the ppa inside the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ then it was just installed with the package, remove that file |
| 03:43.15 | somiaj | !tell kruug about unavailable |
| 03:43.33 | somiaj | !tell kruug about not available |
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| 03:44.48 | somiaj | kruug: if you want to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.debian.net we can look it over, but if you have mixed things it can sometimes be a pain to fix it, and even then a reinatll might be best |
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| 03:46.19 | kruug | hmmm...seems like that aptitude call returned a lot of things |
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| 03:46.46 | kruug | haha...looked in sources, found the ppa |
| 03:47.10 | kruug | `Monitorix` |
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| 03:52.22 | Lewoco | Is it possible to boot from a logical volume in a volume group? |
| 03:52.29 | asterismo | hi people |
| 03:52.41 | Lewoco | Or do I still need to create a partition outside of LVM to boot from? |
| 03:52.49 | asterismo | how do i change the scroll on title action of openbox in debian 7? |
| 03:53.07 | asterismo | if i scroll on window title, it goes to the previous window |
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| 03:54.08 | kruug | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/94982/ |
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| 03:54.35 | kruug | Do I need to have the deb-src lines? |
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| 04:00.45 | nkuttler | kruug: only if you want to build from sources |
| 04:03.01 | kruug | nkuttler: is that only regarding packages with apt-get, or any source build? |
| 04:03.51 | nkuttler | kruug: to rebuild debian source packages only |
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| 04:06.26 | Release_ | how to switch from vm to nano as crontab editor |
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| 04:11.42 | nkuttler | Release_: i just set the EDITOR env var |
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| 04:14.50 | Release_ | tnx nku_ttler |
| 04:14.58 | Release_ | turns out nano wasnt installed |
| 04:15.06 | Release_ | works fine |
| 04:15.12 | Release_ | im not ise to vm |
| 04:15.18 | Release_ | *im not use to vm |
| 04:15.30 | Release_ | altho i heard most like to work with vm |
| 04:15.47 | Release_ | i havent tried it to judge |
| 04:16.02 | nightfly | by vm do you mean vim/vi? |
| 04:16.06 | Release_ | yes |
| 04:16.09 | Release_ | editor |
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| 04:19.31 | phy1729 | Release_: if you need vi/vim help the folks in #vim would be happy to help |
| 04:20.27 | Release_ | ah ok |
| 04:20.30 | Release_ | its all good |
| 04:20.37 | Release_ | ill follow docs |
| 04:20.46 | Release_ | im sure there are plenty |
| 04:20.59 | Release_ | if i cant find solution ill visit |
| 04:21.08 | Release_ | tnx sir |
| 04:21.10 | themill | running "vimtutor" is a good start |
| 04:21.16 | Release_ | yes |
| 04:21.29 | Release_ | i heard most use that editor |
| 04:21.42 | Release_ | must be a good reason for it |
| 04:22.40 | cafuego | Once you're used to it, it's fast. |
| 04:22.48 | cafuego | If you're not use dit it, it's awful :-) |
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| 04:23.22 | somiaj | kruug: yea do not mix mthings like you are doing. linuxmint is not needed, just use iceweasel, (and don't mix linux mint packages) also ubuntu packages will not be built againts debian libaries. |
| 04:23.55 | Release_ | ok |
| 04:23.58 | Release_ | tnx sir |
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| 04:27.17 | somiaj | Release_: it is nice, but I say use an eitor you like. (: |
| 04:27.31 | swathe | agreed |
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| 04:27.40 | Release_ | ok |
| 04:27.44 | swathe | I use vim and emacs though |
| 04:27.55 | swathe | so i'm a little crazy maybe lol |
| 04:27.59 | Release_ | ive been using nano cause its the first one |
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| 04:28.14 | Release_ | i ll get use to any real quik i guess |
| 04:28.17 | Release_ | after use |
| 04:28.22 | swathe | basic vim takes no time to get used to |
| 04:28.32 | swathe | and you'll have no habits to break |
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| 04:33.06 | Lewoco | On the console, when I type tiled ('~') it inserts some wierd non-ascii character. How do I fix this? |
| 04:33.15 | Lewoco | tilde* |
| 04:35.23 | blha303 | change your keyboard layout? |
| 04:36.06 | Lewoco | blha303, Yup, turns out I had to change /etc/default/keyboard. |
| 04:36.53 | blha303 | \o/ |
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| 04:38.30 | somiaj | Lewoco: you can also 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' |
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| 04:58.19 | civillian | heya sometimes if I run ps aux | grep blah, the grep process is listed... yet other times its not listed... Does anyone know why this happens? |
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| 05:01.02 | peterrooney | civillian: I presume it's because grep sometimes hasn't actually started before ps scans /proc |
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| 05:02.04 | civillian | peterrooney: interesting yeah I was just curious |
| 05:02.33 | themill | (you might be looking for pgrep) |
| 05:03.21 | civillian | themill: oooo shiny |
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| 05:04.58 | civillian | themill: strangely pgrep pgrep returns exit code 1 |
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| 05:07.33 | themill | civillian: from pgrep(1): The running pgrep or pkill process will never report itself as a match. |
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| 05:16.36 | blha303 | ps aux | grep -v "grep" | grep blah |
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| 05:17.43 | acer-c720p | Anyone else manage to get debian running on their chromebook? |
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| 06:23.42 | Etynn | Hello |
| 06:24.09 | Etynn | Anyone can help me with Boost_asio_1_0_0 ? it's showing error. |
| 06:24.43 | wols_ | !tell Etynn about errors |
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| 06:25.06 | Etynn | Wols_, can i send them to you here ? |
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| 06:25.38 | wols_ | !paste |
| 06:25.40 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 06:25.50 | Etynn | !paste g++ boost_asio_1_0_0/libs/system/src/error_code.cpp -c -o /usr/lib/libboost_system.a In file included from boost_asio_1_0_0/libs/system/src/error_code.cpp:25:0: /usr/include/boost/system/config.hpp:13:28: fatal error: boost/config.hpp: No such file or directory #include <boost/config.hpp> |
| 06:25.52 | dpkg | g++ boost_asio_1_0_0/libs/system/src/error_code.cpp -c -o /usr/lib/libboost_system.a In file included from boost_asio_1_0_0/libs/system/src/error_code.cpp:25:0: /usr/include/boost/system/config.hpp:13:28: fatal error: boost/config.hpp: No such file or directory #include <boost/config.hpp>: put your output on http://paste.debian.net/ so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
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| 06:26.40 | Etynn | Wols_, http://pastebin.com/m0vD6MJD please have a look. |
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| 06:27.31 | Etynn | Wols_ Im trying to compile game server and im getting this error. |
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| 06:28.01 | wols_ | Etynn: dpkg -l |grep libboost |
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| 06:28.31 | Etynn | Wols, http://pastebin.com/yRJy3yys |
| 06:29.09 | wols_ | you lack the -dev package(s) for boost, that's why you get this error |
| 06:29.59 | Etynn | Wols_, how can i resolve this issue ? |
| 06:30.23 | wols_ | by installing the package with this file, which is a -dev package |
| 06:30.36 | wols_ | you can search for it via apt-file or packages.debian.org |
| 06:30.52 | Etynn | Wols_, Could you give me some advice in this ?, what should i type in terminal ? |
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| 06:31.34 | rjsalts | Etynn: apt-get install foo-dev where it's the boost library it requires |
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| 06:32.21 | Etynn | rjaltes, how can i know which library does it require ? sorry im abit of newbie. |
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| 06:33.03 | rjsalts | Etynn: go to packages.debian.org and search for boost/config.hpp in the files search at the bottom |
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| 06:34.10 | Etynn | rjsaltes, Well. but i don't know what should i look for |
| 06:34.16 | wols_ | Etynn: your debian looks iffy btw, with 1.42 and 1.54 stuff of boost having been removed |
| 06:34.29 | wols_ | Etynn: he told you explicitly what to look for |
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| 06:35.13 | Etynn | wols_, this one ? libboost-dev |
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| 06:38.11 | Etynn | wols_, okay i managed this one, but what about this http://pastebin.com/dbkskR40 |
| 06:38.44 | rjsalts | Etynn: same process, search for /usr/lib/libboost_date_time-mt.so |
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| 06:40.52 | Etynn | rjsalts, http://pastebin.com/D2qQTRT5 have a look. |
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| 06:42.37 | DonAlex | Hey guys. |
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| 06:42.45 | wols_ | Etynn: you are not supposed to install random packages. you are supposed to go to packages.debian.org and look for the file you are missing. then you know which one to install |
| 06:42.51 | DonAlex | anyone feel like helping me debug a systemd slow boot issue? |
| 06:43.06 | wols_ | !tell DonAlex about anyone |
| 06:43.16 | Etynn | wols_ ehh i don't know what to do. |
| 06:43.28 | DonAlex | Well sloooow boot http://pastebin.com/sWJxULG0 |
| 06:43.50 | wols_ | as rjsalts told you. go to packages.debian.org. there you can search if you miss a certain file and see in which package it is |
| 06:43.51 | DonAlex | the plot is here.. http://imagebin.org/306912 |
| 06:44.04 | DonAlex | 5 s to boot the kernel.. 40+ seconds to get networking up |
| 06:44.16 | DonAlex | I am using a static address too! |
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| 06:46.06 | DonAlex | systemd problem |
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| 06:47.19 | wols_ | webmin, wicd, fail2ban. what does one expect? |
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| 06:48.14 | DonAlex | wols_: I expect a little bit faster than 60 s boot.. especially when sysv-init did it in 30s!? |
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| 06:49.06 | wols_ | then go back to sysv and change to systemd when it's actually released in debian |
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| 06:50.09 | DonAlex | wols_: it is in Debian.. Has been for over 9 months now. .Don't try and be cute.. I am not some newbie you know.. I have been a Debian user longer than I care to talk about. |
| 06:50.56 | DonAlex | wols_: on my laptop not a problem.. networking is up in 4 s.. and that is wifi and dhcp.. |
| 06:51.17 | DonAlex | This machine though.. something is not right.. and I trying to diagnose it.. |
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| 06:55.25 | petn-randall | DonAlex: It's only in Wheezy as a tech preview, it's definitely not ready for deployment. |
| 06:58.38 | DonAlex | petn-randall: Running it in Linux mint DE fine.. but I reiterate..I am not a newbie.. I am seasoned developer with lots of debug experience however I am not going to go down my own rabbit hole if someone else already has. This is a wired laptop using static IP's there is no reason that it should take 40 s to come up for networking unless something is wrong in the migration from sysv-scrips to systemd. Something that would |
| 06:58.39 | DonAlex | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:59.51 | petn-randall | !mint |
| 06:59.52 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 07:00.47 | DonAlex | dpkg: *groans* Is this bot totally clueless ? |
| 07:00.49 | dpkg | okay, DonAlex |
| 07:01.09 | wols_ | dpkg: forget *groans* |
| 07:01.11 | dpkg | i forgot *groans*, wols_ |
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| 07:01.44 | wols_ | a wired laptop using static IPs and wicd. awesome |
| 07:02.23 | DonAlex | For the record >I< am using linux Mint on my laptop. The one I am diagnosing is Debian Testing |
| 07:02.49 | Lewoco | I added "session optional pam_umask.so umask=0002" to my /etc/pam.d/login but I still have umask 022 when I ssh into my machine. Why? |
| 07:02.50 | DonAlex | Suck that up your language filter and choke on it |
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| 07:04.12 | mepl | How can I see changelog of a update? I just saw another new openssl update openssl 1.0.1e-2+deb7u6 and I was just curious |
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| 07:05.13 | babilen | mepl: /usr/share/doc/$PKG/changelog.Debian* |
| 07:05.51 | mepl | babilen: how do I read this? |
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| 07:06.07 | rlog | hello someone can help me with the logs I'm trying to set up a vsftpd server and only get to see the logs of successful connections |
| 07:07.26 | babilen | mepl: It's a basic text file. A pager such as less or most would probably be a good choice. |
| 07:08.17 | mepl | babilen: no changelog file exist in $PKG |
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| 07:09.45 | babilen | mepl: You have to replace $PKG with the name of the package |
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| 07:13.15 | rlog | where is the variable $PKG |
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| 07:13.55 | mepl | yeah, what file am I suppose to read? I see .gz files which contains nothing the human eye can read |
| 07:14.27 | arrith | mepl: zless |
| 07:15.25 | mepl | so another openssl urgency high package? |
| 07:15.32 | mepl | seen 3 of them last 2 weeks |
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| 07:17.12 | rjsalts | mepl: it's getting some love from the openbsd devs |
| 07:17.21 | babilen | mepl: You can either use zless as arrith suggested or configure lesspipe on your system which enables less to switch to zless if necessary |
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| 07:21.23 | monkwitdafunk | Hi #debian, the number of bytes is diffrent than what is of the download and what is on dvd. Does that mean i got a bad burn of optical media? |
| 07:21.49 | monkwitdafunk | i am in the middle of an integrity check |
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| 07:30.34 | arrith | monkwitdafunk: might depend on how you're measuring the bytecount of the dvd. though the integrity check should work fine i guess |
| 07:30.56 | arrith | you can do a dd with a proper count= value to hash it like you should the iso |
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| 07:31.43 | arrith | dd if=/dev/sr0 bs=2048 count=x | sha256sum |
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| 07:34.16 | monkwitdafunk | I am running dd with pipes to md5sum |
| 07:34.28 | arrith | make sure you use the proper count= |
| 07:34.34 | monkwitdafunk | I hope a got a good burn |
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| 07:35.31 | arrith | you can get fancy with tee also: dd if=/dev/sr0 bs=2048 count=x | tee >(md5sum) >(sha1sum) >(sha256sum) >/dev/null |
| 07:36.06 | monkwitdafunk | I need to check the man pages and texinfo system before i use tee |
| 07:36.22 | arrith | monkwitdafunk: not using a proper count includes the nulls on the dvd and gives you an inaccurate sum |
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| 07:36.32 | arrith | sum hash etc |
| 07:36.49 | monkwitdafunk | Yeah. I used wc to get the number of bytes |
| 07:38.49 | monkwitdafunk | Wc with redirection to the dvd burning drive |
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| 07:39.47 | monkwitdafunk | I hope i get a good burn because sometimes burning gnu linux can be labourous |
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| 07:46.02 | pbase | is it possible to add the application tray icons in the gnome 3 top panel? |
| 07:46.19 | petern_ | Yes, there's an extension to do that. |
| 07:46.28 | RainbowW | i'm using a default configuration apache2 on jessie ... the only thing i've edited is the DocumentRoot in 000-default.conf ... why am i getting 403s? drwxr-xr-x on all relevant directories. http://paste.debian.net/94997/ ... what am i missing? |
| 07:46.38 | pbase | petern_: can you point it out- urls? |
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| 07:47.01 | petern_ | https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/712/traytop/ |
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| 07:47.30 | petern_ | I find https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/355/status-area-horizontal-spacing/ useful too. |
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| 07:48.24 | pbase | thanks petern_.. very useful links |
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| 08:20.58 | arrith | monkwitdafunk: hm actually, i'm not sure if wc would include the end nulls. if it discards nulls then you're missing the middle nulls. either way dd with a proper count is how you do it |
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| 08:21.28 | monkwitdafunk | Ok |
| 08:21.56 | monkwitdafunk | Wc -c < /dev/sr0 |
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| 08:28.31 | gregor2 | hi |
| 08:28.41 | gregor2 | i need some help |
| 08:29.07 | gregor2 | if i press ctrl+alt+F4 i came to a terminal |
| 08:29.14 | gregor2 | i can log in as a user |
| 08:29.28 | gregor2 | and with startx i can start gnome desktop |
| 08:29.33 | arrith | monkwitdafunk: find the size of the iso with ls i guess, then divide by 2048, then use that count with dd |
| 08:29.50 | gregor2 | but how can i start another desktop environment |
| 08:29.55 | gregor2 | lik gnome classic! |
| 08:29.56 | gregor2 | ? |
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| 08:31.19 | babilen | gregor2: Use a display manager such as gdm3 and choose whatever session you want to start |
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| 08:33.02 | gregor2 | but what is the command? |
| 08:33.10 | gregor2 | for another session? |
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| 08:33.29 | gregor2 | i basically want to be logged in with two users! |
| 08:33.39 | gregor2 | both with graphical interface! |
| 08:34.02 | gregor2 | or can i run a programm like nautilus with another user? |
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| 08:34.11 | gregor2 | like "gksu nautilus"? |
| 08:34.16 | babilen | gregor2: It depends, but I would recommend to use a display manager and not startx as the latter is likely to not configure logind, consolekit or dbug correctly unless you put some effort into it. |
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| 08:34.41 | gregor2 | but how can i start a display manager? |
| 08:34.51 | babilen | gregor2: You should be able to just login as a different user from within Gnome and you can also run programs as a different user with, for example, gksu. |
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| 08:35.21 | gregor2 | but if i type gksu it runs it as root! |
| 08:35.38 | hoxu | gregor2, man gksu, check synopsis |
| 08:35.45 | babilen | gregor2: Install gdm3 (apt-get install gdm3) which will cause it to start during boot. You can also start/restart it explicitly with "service gdm3 restart" |
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| 08:36.50 | Gvidon | When trying to paste with the middle mouse button, I get weird stuff added to the string. Specifically, it's "0~" before and "1~" after the string I'm trying to paste. Debian testing, xfce4-terminal. Has anyone else faced such a problem? |
| 08:38.17 | babilen | Gvidon: Sounds like a bug. Please note that testing is explicitly supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) -- Please check the BTS for applicable bugs and try to reproduce the issue with different software (e.g. gnome-terminal, in with xfce4-terminal in Gnome, ...) |
| 08:38.47 | Gvidon | Ok, thanks |
| 08:38.55 | gregor2 | service gdm3 start isnt working! |
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| 08:42.24 | babilen | gregor2: I never mentioned "service gdm3 start" and please elaborate on "isn't working" |
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| 08:44.56 | FireSlash | My sidegrade went horribly horribly wrong and now I'm in a state where stuff like adduser and openssl is missing. I'm about to just burn the install and start over, unless someone knows of a way to recover from apt/dpkg being in horribly broken states |
| 08:45.17 | SirLagz | FireSlash: does dpkg still work ? |
| 08:45.20 | FireSlash | yes |
| 08:45.23 | SirLagz | FireSlash: and do you still have root access ? |
| 08:45.26 | FireSlash | yes |
| 08:45.36 | SirLagz | FireSlash: and do you want to burn a whole bunch of time fixing it ? |
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| 08:46.15 | FireSlash | I was hoping for something closer to a "Run this command to just reinstall all core packages regardless of what I think their current state is" |
| 08:46.26 | FireSlash | Else I'll just finish pulling /home/ out and burn it |
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| 08:46.46 | SirLagz | if you still have everything in /var/cache/apt/packges - or whatever the directory is - then you could go in there and go dpkg -i * |
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| 08:46.57 | SirLagz | and see what happens |
| 08:47.03 | SirLagz | otherwise i'd just start agian |
| 08:47.06 | FireSlash | Tried, ends up erroring out after too many errors |
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| 08:47.42 | SynrG | sidegrade? |
| 08:48.05 | FireSlash | i386 -> amd64 |
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| 08:48.18 | FireSlash | It's an old install |
| 08:48.27 | SynrG | Ah. What i would call crossgrade. |
| 08:48.29 | jelly | FireSlash: reinstall. |
| 08:48.36 | FireSlash | RIP |
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| 08:49.13 | jelly | horribly broken states, while an interesting exercise, are quite a waste of resources |
| 08:49.18 | SynrG | Yeah. I have one planned. But it will start with complete image of the current system. |
| 08:49.49 | jelly | (also, wth people think amd64 is better than i386 for anything) |
| 08:49.51 | SynrG | So i can fall back and start over if things go south. |
| 08:50.16 | hoxu | jelly, you can have more than 4 GiB memory for one process in amd64 ;) |
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| 08:50.47 | jelly | hoxu: indeed! |
| 08:50.55 | bdog7 | what can one process use for ram with the i386? |
| 08:51.08 | hoxu | bdog7, 32 bits, unsurprisingly |
| 08:51.11 | jelly | hoxu: at least this way a browser can't bloat up over 3G |
| 08:51.14 | FireSlash | The main reason was to get off 32bit php |
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| 08:51.38 | SirLagz | I've managed to break tar on my system before |
| 08:51.42 | SirLagz | that was interesting |
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| 08:51.49 | jelly | bdog7: around 3 gigs. |
| 08:52.10 | JonB | 1 out of 4 debian virtual openvz guests has strange colors in apt-get when programs need to ask questions when I log in using the vzctl exec $ID apt-get upgrade. 3 guests work fine, not the 4.th How is it I configure apt-get upgrade questions? |
| 08:52.13 | bdog7 | thanks jelly |
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| 08:53.31 | hoxu | bdog7, to elaborate, the address space is 32 bits, but whole 4 GiB can't be used because some is reserved for other OS memory etc |
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| 08:54.17 | bdog7 | hoxu yes I understand the 4gb limit but wondered about process limit on 32bit |
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| 08:58.23 | SynrG | FireSlash: what instructions were you following so I'll know to avoid them? |
| 08:58.36 | FireSlash | https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading |
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| 08:59.20 | SynrG | Ah. I had planned on following themill's |
| 09:00.09 | gour | morning. i've virtualbox-4.3.10 installed, but there is older extension pack installed and i can not neither remove it nor upgrade it. it complains about missing /dev/tty. |
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| 09:04.53 | gour | i'm told in #virtualbox to manually uninstall it with VBoxManage, but ext pack is already unpacked and installed on the system. rm-ing it manually and install new one from the scratch does not seem to be best idea. any hint? |
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| 09:13.37 | arrith | FireSlash: tasksel |
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| 09:14.54 | Brigo | gour, if you are using debian i think is better to use apt |
| 09:14.58 | wols_ | !tell gour about errors |
| 09:15.13 | wols_ | Brigo: only if he installed the ext pack via apt. |
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| 09:22.57 | SynrG | ,v virtualbox |
| 09:22.58 | judd | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+2; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.10-dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.10-dfsg-1; sid/contrib: 4.3.10-dfsg-1 |
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| 09:23.41 | SynrG | the extension pack is installable via apt? |
| 09:24.01 | SynrG | afaik, it is not. |
| 09:24.09 | wols_ | SynrG: the ext pack for usb2 support isn't. non-free software and oracle to boot |
| 09:24.20 | wols_ | the guest tools thingie is |
| 09:25.13 | SynrG | as for errors, yes. show them. but to #vbox, not us. |
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| 09:25.53 | elichai2 | hey |
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| 09:26.12 | elichai2 | it is safe to add ppa to debian? |
| 09:26.18 | SynrG | gour: as you've already found out, if you're using a mix of debian packages and upstream, you won't get support either here or there. |
| 09:26.26 | SynrG | elichai2: generally, no. |
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| 09:26.54 | elichai2 | SynrG: there is no way to temp install something from ppa? |
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| 09:27.04 | SynrG | !mixing |
| 09:27.05 | dpkg | Mixing distributions is a bad idea. Running Ubuntu packages on Debian systems (or vice-versa) causes problems with package naming and versioning. Don't expect anybody to help you with your system if you do this. |
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| 09:27.26 | benjamin___ | Hallo |
| 09:27.44 | benjamin___ | How the damn I install sqlite for PHP / Apache on Linux o.O |
| 09:28.00 | petern_ | apt-get install php5-sqlite |
| 09:28.05 | SynrG | gour: my advice is the same advice they gave you on #vbox. if you need the extension pack, just uninstall the debian vbox packages and use upstream's. |
| 09:28.07 | petern_ | You are welcome. |
| 09:28.12 | benjamin___ | petern_: does not work |
| 09:28.18 | SynrG | gour: then you'll be fully supported in #vbox |
| 09:28.19 | benjamin___ | installed sqlite but does not work |
| 09:28.25 | benjamin___ | on localhost -.- |
| 09:28.32 | petern_ | Does not work how? |
| 09:28.33 | benjamin___ | sqlite_open is still unknown function |
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| 09:28.55 | SynrG | benjamin___: on which release of debian? |
| 09:29.56 | benjamin___ | Debian 7.4 |
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| 09:30.35 | benjamin___ | it would be too easy o.O just apt-get install XD |
| 09:31.07 | SynrG | sounds like you have an ancient php app |
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| 09:31.16 | SynrG | that doesn't work with sqlite3 |
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| 09:31.42 | SynrG | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4788853/call-to-undefined-function-sqlite-open |
| 09:31.54 | SynrG | "sqlite_open was the function in the sqlite2 extension. What you've installed is probably the sqlite3 module, which requires sqlite3::open() instead." |
| 09:32.13 | petern_ | And then PDO... |
| 09:32.33 | SynrG | anything else you want me to google for you? ... |
| 09:32.41 | petern_ | :-) |
| 09:32.47 | benjamin___ | oh ok |
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| 09:36.26 | SynrG | benjamin___: my advice then, don't use that software. either use a later release or else find something else to replace it |
| 09:36.34 | SynrG | chances are this is only one of several things wrong with it |
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| 09:37.25 | SynrG | it's not like sqlite3 is brand new :p |
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| 09:38.19 | SynrG | https://sqlite.org/changes.html "2004-09-18 (3.0.7)" |
| 09:38.26 | SynrG | first non-beta release |
| 09:38.29 | benjamin___ | SynrG: I have only used sqlite3 with C and C++ . It is my first shot on PHP |
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| 09:38.56 | SynrG | then you're writing it yourself? |
| 09:38.56 | petern_ | Yeah, I was hoping it was just a new thing and picking the wrong function :-) |
| 09:39.09 | petern_ | But use PDO, not the vendor-specific stuff. |
| 09:40.06 | SynrG | throw out whatever doc you're following and use current doc instead, and ... what petern_said about PDO :) |
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| 09:44.26 | petern_ | Hmm, last round of libssl update (7u7) talks about automatically restarting services... but doesn't. |
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| 10:25.11 | ignucious | just rebooted and sound doesn't work all of a sudden |
| 10:26.48 | DonAlex | ignasio: check mixer levels. |
| 10:27.01 | DonAlex | ignucious: check mixer levels |
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| 10:27.11 | ignucious | already have |
| 10:27.12 | DonAlex | ignasio: sorry msdirect |
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| 10:27.34 | DonAlex | ignucious: so the sound device shows up in the mixer? |
| 10:27.45 | ignucious | yes |
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| 10:28.09 | DonAlex | ignucious: This is pulse audio right? |
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| 10:28.15 | ignucious | yep |
| 10:28.41 | DonAlex | ignucious: are you using pavucontrol ? |
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| 10:28.53 | ignucious | no? |
| 10:29.27 | DonAlex | ignucious: download it. I have found that sometimes sources can be muted accidentally.. it is easier to see in pavucontrol each source has it's own controls |
| 10:29.34 | ignucious | will try' |
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| 10:30.23 | DonAlex | ignucious: it will also tell you what is the default source... I had a headache once because it was being redirected though HDMI and not through in built speakers.. |
| 10:30.30 | ignucious | k |
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| 10:33.09 | lintguy1 | Hello |
| 10:33.23 | lintguy1 | I have a server that consumes 99% IO every time DPKG is running |
| 10:33.39 | lintguy1 | I don't really have a clue what to look for, the logs shows nothing special |
| 10:33.53 | jelly | lintguy1: a physical or a virtual machine? |
| 10:34.10 | lintguy1 | physical |
| 10:34.19 | jelly | it might simply be your storage backend is horribly slow |
| 10:34.24 | DonAlex | lintguy1: run iotop |
| 10:34.30 | jelly | less likely with a physical machine though |
| 10:34.42 | lintguy1 | jelly: No, it's not, doing benchmarks shows normal numbers |
| 10:34.51 | lintguy1 | that's why this is insanely frustrating |
| 10:35.08 | lintguy1 | DonAlex: i have, it shows 99% on dkpg and it unpacks extremely slowly |
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| 10:35.34 | DonAlex | lintguy1: and how much free memory do you have? |
| 10:35.48 | lintguy1 | 32GB total, 30GB Free |
| 10:36.05 | Sbroker` | http://imagebin.org/306755 http://imagebin.org/306753 http://imagebin.org/306754 |
| 10:36.19 | Sbroker` | fukcing fake |
| 10:36.41 | DonAlex | lintguy1: wondering if you need to run powertop find out what is hogging the cpu. |
| 10:36.42 | Sbroker` | open suse based chrome os fake |
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| 10:37.19 | lintguy1 | DonAlex: cpu is not hogged, it's constantly below 10% |
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| 10:37.40 | DonAlex | lintguy1: then what is showing 99%? |
| 10:37.47 | lintguy1 | DonAlex: iotop |
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| 10:38.02 | DonAlex | lintguy1: Ahh so it is an io problem then.. |
| 10:38.15 | DonAlex | lintguy1: DMA turned off on your drive..? |
| 10:38.26 | DonAlex | lintguy1: Is the drive failing? |
| 10:38.29 | jelly | lintguy1: dpkg does a lot of fsync() / fdatasync() during installation; if you do benchmarks try to make sure they force bytes to the platter as well |
| 10:38.50 | lintguy1 | jelly: Hm. |
| 10:39.05 | babilen | Sbroker`: Please keep in mind that this is Debian *support* channel and you should use it as such. If you want to socialise or talk about something that isn't a specific problem you are trying to solve then please take it to #debian-offtopic |
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| 10:39.17 | lintguy1 | DonAlex: DMA is on, smartctl shows nothing wrong and the raidboard shows no errors |
| 10:39.46 | lintguy1 | It writes to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and i have no problems unpacking a test archive there |
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| 10:40.08 | Sbroker` | ... sorry... |
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| 10:41.29 | Fauve_Oxy | Miaou les kids. |
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| 10:41.44 | Fauve_Oxy | Dîtes, comment récupérer en une commande le pid (et que le pid) d’un processus ? |
| 10:41.54 | lintguy1 | I've been running debian for 10 years and this is the first time i ever stumble upon something like this |
| 10:41.56 | babilen | dpkg: fr |
| 10:41.56 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 10:41.59 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: ^^ |
| 10:42.03 | Fauve_Oxy | ps Sorry :) |
| 10:42.10 | lintguy1 | Geesh |
| 10:42.12 | Fauve_Oxy | I forget to type -fr |
| 10:42.16 | Fauve_Oxy | Anyway, |
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| 10:42.19 | lintguy1 | lol |
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| 10:42.38 | Fauve_Oxy | How can I get the PID (and only the PID) of a command? |
| 10:42.54 | Fauve_Oxy | ps aux | grep foo put me a lot of trash. |
| 10:43.27 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: pgrep ? |
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| 10:43.44 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: What are you really trying to do? |
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| 10:44.01 | Fauve_Oxy | babilen: I whant only get the pid of the proces foo |
| 10:44.04 | Fauve_Oxy | only the pid. |
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| 10:44.08 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: Whatfor? |
| 10:44.09 | Fauve_Oxy | And noting else. |
| 10:44.30 | Fauve_Oxy | babilen: I have to interface it in alias command with someting. |
| 10:45.09 | Fauve_Oxy | I have to do alias myalias="jconsole `the way to get my pid`" |
| 10:45.10 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: And pgrep is not doing what you want? But please: Start at the beginning and try to explain what you are really trying to do? What will that alias do? |
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| 10:45.55 | Fauve_Oxy | babilen: what this alias do isn’t important. |
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| 10:46.21 | Fauve_Oxy | Anyway, I type the command ps aux | grep /etc/init.d/nano-server |
| 10:46.37 | Fauve_Oxy | (nano-server is a server of my company, it isn’t the editor) |
| 10:46.58 | Fauve_Oxy | But when I do this, I get : |
| 10:47.32 | Fauve_Oxy | (I can’t copy it from my virtual machine but it is two lines of many things) |
| 10:47.44 | Fauve_Oxy | But I only whant to get the number of the pid. |
| 10:47.46 | Fauve_Oxy | Only this. |
| 10:48.19 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: And pgrep is not working for you? |
| 10:48.43 | Fauve_Oxy | Yes it work now :) |
| 10:48.45 | Fauve_Oxy | Thank you |
| 10:48.49 | Fauve_Oxy | I was using grep. |
| 10:48.59 | Fauve_Oxy | kiss babilen |
| 10:49.00 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: What do you want to happen if there are more processes than one? |
| 10:49.10 | Fauve_Oxy | It will not. |
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| 10:49.54 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: If you use a proper init script it should write a PID file that you could use. |
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| 10:52.12 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: I would, if that is the case, recommend that approach rather than using pgrep. -- But I can't provide any further help without more details |
| 10:54.41 | akp | hello, i am trying to write an init script for a debian machine, but am having trouble figuring out how the provides are translated. |
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| 10:54.58 | akp | i see some scripts that require network, but i don't see anything that provides network |
| 10:55.14 | akp | but there is something that provides networking, how does this get translated. |
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| 10:59.41 | gour | SynrG: the error is this one:https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/8473 |
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| 11:00.33 | lintguy1 | ARGH, i found the problem! |
| 11:00.49 | lintguy1 | The raid controller had forced cache off because it thought the BBU was bad! |
| 11:00.58 | lintguy1 | No wonder it was slow as heck |
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| 11:01.42 | SynrGy | gour: and that has a workaround in it. so use it? |
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| 11:02.13 | gour | same when i attempt to remove the old version or or upgrade to the latest one. if i stay with the 4.1.22, then vbox complains about missing usb-2.0 support and advices to upgrade |
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| 11:02.22 | elichai2 | hey |
| 11:02.27 | gour | SynrGy: which workaround? |
| 11:02.30 | elichai2 | anyone here use qBitorrent? |
| 11:03.20 | SynrGy | gour: did you read the whole bug and all comments on it? |
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| 11:04.33 | monkwitdafunk | Hey #debian, is burning dvd2 and dvd3 difficult because i have to toss a lot of bad burned optical disks |
| 11:05.28 | Fauve_Oxy | babilen: only one other question please. |
| 11:05.43 | Fauve_Oxy | How can I get the pid of the son from the pid of the father ? |
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| 11:07.23 | Sbroker` | Re , I have a problem I had donwloaded Chronium OS http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromiumos/postdownload?source=dlp and I had installed wmware in my Debian, but wmware only use .ISO files. I had burned .BIN file with "brasero" but the iso result is unread by vmware |
| 11:07.35 | Sbroker` | Any idea ? |
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| 11:08.09 | lintguy1 | anyone with experience with megacli? |
| 11:08.41 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: Child processes spawned with fork() will return their PID to the parent. Are you trying to find all child processes of a given process? |
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| 11:09.47 | Fauve_Oxy | babilen: no. I’m sure my parent pid have only one child. |
| 11:10.00 | Fauve_Oxy | Then I whant a command to get the pid of this child. |
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| 11:12.13 | Fauve_Oxy | You see what I mean babilen ? |
| 11:12.16 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: You would have to search all processes and compare their parent pid (ppid) to the pid of your parent. -- Generally speaking the parent process is being told the pid of its child processes and you should deal with them there. |
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| 11:12.46 | Fauve_Oxy | :/ |
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| 11:12.55 | Fauve_Oxy | It’s to weight. |
| 11:13.03 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: One way is to run "pgrep -P $PARENT_PID" |
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| 11:14.04 | doebi | why is deian not automatically connecting to wpa2 enterprise networks? |
| 11:14.20 | Fauve_Oxy | babilen: I’ll do a for i in… |
| 11:14.33 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: What will you do with them? Do you use a PID file for nano-server in your init script already with start-stop-daemon ? |
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| 11:14.43 | doebi | it constantly tries to connect to my neigbours WPA2 PK network when at home :/ rather than to my own 11.x one |
| 11:14.44 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: Why would you have to loop? |
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| 11:15.08 | Fauve_Oxy | babilen: no. Nano isn’t realy the soft of my company. |
| 11:15.14 | Fauve_Oxy | It is a closed-source soft. |
| 11:15.45 | babilen | Fauve_Oxy: Are you using a pid file? Is "pgrep -P $PPID" what you are looking for? |
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| 11:16.44 | gour | SynrGy: running that polkit-auth-agent helped. thanks. |
| 11:17.04 | Sbroker` | babilen: any idea ? |
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| 11:17.23 | Fauve_Oxy | It’s thanks babilen :) |
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| 11:18.41 | safridzal | which is better : use .deb from libreoffice site or use backport? |
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| 11:19.20 | Brigo | safridzal, backports |
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| 11:19.53 | safridzal | Brigo: ok.. will use backport then :D thanks |
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| 11:21.30 | elichai2 | hey |
| 11:21.39 | elichai2 | what recommend audio player for debian? |
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| 11:23.27 | nightfly | vlc/mplayer/rhythembox |
| 11:23.39 | dang`r`us | hello there. I want to copy a debian live iso (http://www.debian.org/CD/live/) to a USB key under OSX. Is it necessary that I prepare the iso as described on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ? |
| 11:24.07 | elichai2 | mplayer support audio too? |
| 11:24.12 | dang`r`us | elichai2, sure does |
| 11:24.53 | elichai2 | dang`r`us: yeah but i can't see nothing :( |
| 11:24.54 | gour | elichai2: vlc, smplayer... |
| 11:25.01 | elichai2 | i'll try maybe rhythembox |
| 11:25.08 | elichai2 | gour: what's smplayer? |
| 11:25.33 | gour | elichai2: qt-based daudio/video player |
| 11:25.37 | elichai2 | gour: smplayer has gui? |
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| 11:25.49 | gour | elichai2: yep |
| 11:27.01 | Brigo | smplayer is a frontend for mplayer and mplayer2 |
| 11:28.18 | gour | http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/ |
| 11:28.36 | gour | yes |
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| 11:31.19 | gour | --> reboot |
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| 11:38.25 | monkwitdafunk | Smplayer and vlc are the media players i know of that have yadif double frame rate deinterlace |
| 11:38.43 | monkwitdafunk | It is the highest performing deinterlace |
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| 11:39.18 | [olli] | re ppl |
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| 11:39.43 | [olli] | how to upgrade a package to an older version than available? |
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| 11:41.39 | syeekick | can you dd a prebuilt .img of linux onto an external drive and then set a boot flag on that drive and it'll work like magic? |
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| 11:43.28 | tomodachi | syeekick: well if you the source linux was a complete installation wit h a boot flag set |
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| 11:43.46 | tomodachi | and you dd the entire block device, you will not need to set any boot flag on the destination, since its already set |
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| 11:48.01 | Ricko | hi im try to compile a framework called upipe (http://upipe.org/doc-0.2/Installation.html) but after compiling successfully ffmpeg, I get get the following error when making upipe: ‘AV_PIX_FMT_YUVJ420P’ undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 11:49.12 | Ricko | someone told me it might be because of libav but i dont know what to do, can someone please give me a hand? |
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| 12:11.14 | Kiril | hello guys |
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| 12:11.23 | Kiril | i just install iotop |
| 12:11.30 | Kiril | and gives me some errors |
| 12:11.30 | Kiril | http://pastebin.com/0sZN4Y23 |
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| 12:11.50 | wols_ | !enter |
| 12:11.50 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 12:12.16 | wols_ | Kiril: what debian is this? |
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| 12:13.25 | Kiril | root@vs1146:~# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:13.26 | Kiril | 7.4 |
| 12:13.41 | Kiril | root@vs1146:~# uname -a |
| 12:13.41 | Kiril | Linux vs1146 2.6.32-26-pve #1 SMP Mon Oct 14 08:22:20 CEST 2013 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 12:14.51 | wols_ | ancient kernel which is not part of wheezy |
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| 12:15.12 | wols_ | and stop misusing your enter key or pasting into the channel |
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| 12:15.36 | Kiril | that's vps |
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| 12:23.23 | LeadCenobite | I am getting annoyed. Why apache cannot write on SQLite Database file |
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| 12:24.48 | LeadCenobite | ok solved |
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| 12:25.35 | abailarri | Hello. I have a apache server on debian wheezy, and it goes extrmly slow. Anyone can say me any reasonss to search the problem? |
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| 12:26.26 | b0lt | abailarri: iotop, iftop, top? |
| 12:26.38 | b0lt | abailarri: figure out what you're stuck on and why |
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| 12:30.29 | abailarri | b0lt, I see the top command and there is not any big process |
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| 12:34.26 | b0lt | abailarri: i can't be much more specific without knowing what you're running on the apache server and what specifically is slow about it. watch all three programs i mentioned and request your pages. see what happens. |
| 12:34.34 | marceloamorim | hey guys, I need help with the apache + php |
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| 12:35.23 | abailarri | b0lt, as I can see, the problem is with this web. With the other webs hosted on the same server not appears any problem. Gies fast |
| 12:35.30 | marceloamorim | anyone can tell me how to configure the /etc/apache2/mods-enable/php5.conf |
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| 12:41.59 | petn-randall | marceloamorim: What do you need? |
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| 12:49.51 | jelly | Kiril: does /proc/diskstats and /proc/1/io exist? If they don't, this is likely a limitation of the container style virtualization your provider uses |
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| 12:51.17 | b0lt | abailarri: so what are you hosting that's so slow? |
| 12:51.27 | abailarri | a web |
| 12:51.36 | b0lt | ... |
| 12:52.03 | abailarri | a drupal made web |
| 12:52.13 | abailarri | with thir mysql database |
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| 12:52.25 | abailarri | but its not bigger |
| 12:52.43 | b0lt | okay. the problem, if other sites hosted on the same server are fast, is something with that website. excessive mysql queries, excessive disk access or excessive memory usage, for instance |
| 12:53.03 | b0lt | use the tools i mentioned, or other tools of your choice to see where the machine gets bogged down when you use that site |
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| 13:13.50 | wdonkey | hello |
| 13:14.05 | wdonkey | how does fstab manage conflicting file system names ? |
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| 13:14.58 | wdonkey | usb0/usb1 used to be mounted from /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 but a new disk partion took these names ? should i delete the entries in fstab ? |
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| 13:15.04 | wdonkey | does that make any sense ? |
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| 13:21.03 | abrotman | wdonkey: or use an automounter |
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| 13:22.18 | mad_hatter | hey guys, new to debian |
| 13:22.27 | mad_hatter | how do you change the theme in gnome? |
| 13:22.52 | Ricko | how can i see wich version of libev is installed on my debian? |
| 13:22.57 | abrotman | mad_hatter: in which gnome? |
| 13:23.03 | abrotman | Ricko: dpkg -l | grep libev |
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| 13:23.36 | Ricko | abrotman: thx |
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| 13:25.24 | wdonkey | abrotman, trying to do it via fstab seems to be the most straightforward way ? aint it ? |
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| 13:30.53 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
| 13:31.04 | cousin_luigi | Is "equivs" the only way to get rid of a dependency? |
| 13:31.27 | themill | no (and it won't work if there are versioned dependencies) |
| 13:31.28 | babilen | cousin_luigi: Well, you could install the actual package. |
| 13:31.41 | babilen | cousin_luigi: What are you trying to do? |
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| 13:32.35 | Ricko | I have libev 4.0.0 in my /usr/lib dir, and i want to upgrade to 4.11 how do i proceed? |
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| 13:33.15 | cousin_luigi | babilen: I need to remove a package that has alternatives, but I don't want any. |
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| 13:33.30 | jelly | Ricko: what is the version of the package that library belongs to? |
| 13:33.44 | cousin_luigi | babilen: Do you think equivs will work? |
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| 13:34.07 | cuihao | Hi, all. I have a deb repo, recently some broken file is found and it causes hash sum mismatch error when fetching packages from it. |
| 13:34.08 | themill | cousin_luigi: vague questions get vague answers; specific questions get specific answers. |
| 13:34.10 | cuihao | I want to check the entire repo (the hash of every file) for bad files, is there any convenient tools? |
| 13:34.14 | Ricko | jelly: how can i get the info? |
| 13:34.41 | jelly | Ricko: dpkg -S /path/to/file to get the package name, dpkg -l packagename to get the version |
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| 13:34.52 | babilen | cousin_luigi: Could you be even more vague? |
| 13:35.01 | cousin_luigi | themill: I'm asking vague questions because it's not about debian. |
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| 13:35.19 | themill | cousin_luigi: this is #debian |
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| 13:35.23 | cousin_luigi | Basically I need to know if apt supports other mechanisms to do so. |
| 13:35.26 | jelly | cousin_luigi: ##linux is that way --> |
| 13:35.40 | wdonkey | so yeah, im getting conflicting /dev/sd* name on my system, what shall i do about it ? |
| 13:35.56 | cousin_luigi | jelly: this is the only place where I can get sensible answers about apt, regardless of the platform |
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| 13:36.00 | jelly | cousin_luigi: they accept generic apt questions, but this channel caters to debian in specific |
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| 13:36.20 | cousin_luigi | jelly: I'd be ok with that |
| 13:36.23 | babilen | cousin_luigi: There is also #debian-apt on oftc -- this channel quite intentionally only supports Debian |
| 13:36.27 | themill | cousin_luigi: you need to ask the people who gave you whatever version of apt you are using and who prepared the Packages file that is causing the problem. |
| 13:36.34 | jelly | (we don't know what a derivative might have done with their apt or with their packages) |
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| 13:37.45 | cousin_luigi | themill: Let's assume it works as debian, is there an alternative to equivs? Note, I'm not trying to circumvent a bug, just trying to do something a bit unusual. |
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| 13:38.07 | giorgiodinapoli | can i somehow create a snapshot via lvm or something of installed system, test something and then restart from clean? |
| 13:38.25 | Ricko | jelly: libev4 1:4.11-1 |
| 13:38.29 | babilen | cousin_luigi: No, lets not assume anything. This channel only supported Debian for a number of technical and social reasons and I would kindly ask you to accept that policy and take your questions to the correct channel. |
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| 13:38.36 | themill | cousin_luigi: what I already said. |
| 13:38.40 | hid3 | Greetings everyone. I've heard rumours about Debian LTS version. What stage is it in right now? Were the plans cancelled or are they proceeding with that? |
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| 13:38.51 | themill | dpkg: tell hid3 about squeeze-lts |
| 13:38.51 | jelly | Ricko: that means you have 4.11 already. |
| 13:39.22 | cousin_luigi | :( |
| 13:39.27 | cousin_luigi | ok |
| 13:39.32 | jelly | Ricko: you can ask the real question now: what are you attempting to do, and how does it fail? |
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| 13:42.14 | jelly | Ricko: if I had to guess, it's likely you're missing libev-dev package trying to build something |
| 13:42.16 | Ricko | jelly: lol ok this is my problem : i have compiled a framework (www.upipe.org) and tried to perform unit tests (make check) but many failed (10/59), and i was trying to understand why, so i was trying to see if there was any information in the log file |
| 13:43.21 | mad_hatter | abrotman, know 3 |
| 13:43.24 | mad_hatter | gnome 3* |
| 13:44.50 | Ricko | jelly: and these lines made me think it was caused by libev 0 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 1 of 9 ==13907== at 0x4C28BED: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:263) ==13907== by 0x4C28D6F: realloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:632) ==13907== by 0x50497C9: ??? (in /usr/lib/libev.so.4.0.0) ==13907== by 0x5049225: ev_loop_destroy (in /usr/lib/libev.so.4.0.0) ==13907== by 0x400B4B: main (ev.h:822) |
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| 13:49.22 | LeadCenobite | hallo |
| 13:49.30 | LeadCenobite | How do I install wine on Debian? |
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| 13:49.53 | LeadCenobite | apt-get install wine <-- it installs but makes no Folder in the Start menu |
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| 13:50.04 | jelly | Ricko: that um... looks like a part of a stack trace, and it's hard to say whether it's intentional or not. I'd ask the upipe people about what it meant |
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| 13:50.52 | themill | LeadCenobite: wine isn't something you run; you use it to run other things |
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| 13:51.25 | LeadCenobite | themill: on Fedora I installed wine and there was a folder which had WINE File Explorer |
| 13:51.35 | LeadCenobite | so I could choose exe files to run |
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| 13:51.48 | LeadCenobite | and there were Windows Programm which I installed as Shortcuts |
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| 14:02.01 | LeadCenobite | ok solution found |
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| 14:07.58 | Futurity | Hi I've just updated openssl on Debian, but its only patched to version 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 |
| 14:08.23 | blha303 | some distros pulled the heartbeat fix update on its own, not the whole version 1.0.1g |
| 14:08.34 | blha303 | you can use a heartbleed test site to check if it's patched |
| 14:08.45 | Futurity | I've ready on the openSSL.org site that 1.0.1g is out with bug and security fixes. Does this mean that 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 is insecure? |
| 14:08.48 | themill | and you can look at the apckage changelog |
| 14:09.24 | Futurity | Thanks. Is there a webpage that would show that 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 actually contains the security fix? |
| 14:09.47 | themill | Futurity: sure, /topic |
| 14:10.05 | Futurity | Out openssl is used internally (not exposed to the web) so we can't use any online tools :( |
| 14:10.35 | Ricko | jelly: ok ill try this, but how can i see if the framework has been built and installed correctly? |
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| 14:11.16 | Futurity | themill: when I enter "/topic" nothing happens |
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| 14:12.48 | themill | dpkg: tell Futurity about dsa2896 |
| 14:13.09 | jelly | Ricko: never used it, sorry |
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| 14:13.51 | Ricko | jelly: no matter i figured there was a standart way to see this |
| 14:13.52 | Futurity | themill: thanks |
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| 14:14.55 | Ricko | jelly: i mean, as long as there are no errors during the process i guessed it had to be ok |
| 14:15.44 | x-yuri | hi, I'm trying to backport package, does anybody know why dget complains about public key not being found? http://serverfault.com/questions/587486/dget-complains-that-public-key-not-found |
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| 14:18.33 | blha303 | 'make', the most exciting four-letter command :) |
| 14:18.43 | themill | x-yuri: why are you trying to backport that package? |
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| 14:20.01 | themill | x-yuri: (the maintainer may have changed their key between the creation of your debian-keyring package and uploading the source package you are looking at there) |
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| 14:24.36 | x-yuri | themill: well, back then I was trying to update openssl because heartbleed.com said that openssl-1.0.1e is vulnerable. But then I found out the bug was fixed in 1.0.1e-2+deb7u5 |
| 14:24.54 | x-yuri | but now I'm trying to backport rfc5766-turn-server |
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| 14:27.35 | themill | it's entirely feasible that the maintainer has a new gpg key -- especially if you're comparing debian-keyring from squeeze with source packages in sid. |
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| 14:30.53 | x-yuri | themill: I'm trying to backport jessie's version. So you're saying that if I had jessie's debian-keyring, it wouldn't complain? |
| 14:31.14 | x-yuri | I'm running wheezy |
| 14:31.42 | themill | it didn't complain for me |
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| 14:34.01 | x-yuri | themill: for some reason it complains on my system. Is there anything I can check? Here's the command I'm using: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/rfc5766-turn-server/rfc5766-turn-server_2.6.5.2-1.dsc |
| 14:34.35 | x-yuri | sorry, this one: dget -x http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/rfc5766-turn-server/rfc5766-turn-server_2.6.5.2-1.dsc |
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| 14:35.04 | _zest_ | hello |
| 14:35.18 | _zest_ | hope this is the good channel to post user question |
| 14:35.33 | _zest_ | i've just installed the a wheezy on a vaio laptop |
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| 14:35.53 | _zest_ | but i can't figure out how to get SOUND works |
| 14:36.27 | _zest_ | a really a pain to get the sound work, i tried to search on search engine |
| 14:36.51 | _zest_ | but i did not find any solutions that works for me |
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| 14:36.57 | _zest_ | help is welcome |
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| 14:40.25 | x-yuri | themill: I'm using my hosting provider's (hetzner) mirrors, so it must have something to do with, what do you think? |
| 14:40.36 | lmat | I'm trying to get g++-4.8 onto an off-line computer. I have the first two debian DVDs mounted and apt-get uses them fine (I'm bringing the third to the offline computer today), but I assume it doesn't have g++-4.8 |
| 14:41.09 | lmat | How should I proceed ? I guess I could grab a .deb file of g++-4.8? Or is there a way to make it an apt-get source or something ? |
| 14:41.34 | SynrG | ,v g++-4.8 |
| 14:41.35 | judd | Package: g++-4.8 on i386 -- jessie: 4.8.2-16; sid: 4.8.2-19 |
| 14:41.44 | SynrG | that's not available for wheezy |
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| 14:41.57 | SynrG | not even a backport |
| 14:42.01 | lmat | SynrG: oh wow |
| 14:42.13 | lmat | SynrG: So the answer is "no" ? |
| 14:42.17 | lmat | SynrG: Not used to hearing that here ^_^ |
| 14:42.22 | SynrG | !ssb |
| 14:42.22 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 14:42.28 | SynrG | you could *try* ... |
| 14:42.44 | lmat | SynrG: I wouldn't be opposed to installing jesse... (what's that ?) |
| 14:42.53 | SynrG | not released. |
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| 14:43.10 | lmat | SynrG: double-ouch :) |
| 14:43.12 | SynrG | it will be the next stable. it's a serious commitment to be involved in development of the next release to use that. |
| 14:43.22 | lmat | SynrG: I found bugs in 4.7 and the gcc guys told me to stop using an ancient version of gcc ^_^ |
| 14:43.46 | SynrG | ah. well and good, but '2 years old' is not ancient |
| 14:43.55 | lmat | SynrG: I tried to tell them that... |
| 14:44.11 | SynrG | they need a reality check :p |
| 14:44.27 | lmat | SynrG: I think, given the advancements in the g++ (especially c++0x support), it may as well be a decade ago ^_^ |
| 14:45.40 | _zest_ | any idea for a "no sound" problem ? |
| 14:45.57 | lmat | _zest_: check your logs: dmesg, xorg (?) |
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| 14:47.49 | _zest_ | dmesg | grep give input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input10 |
| 14:47.50 | _zest_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.11 | _zest_ | dmesg | alsa give nothing |
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| 14:48.31 | _zest_ | dmesg | pulse give nothing |
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| 14:49.52 | wols_ | _zest_: which mainboard? what is in /proc/asound/cards ? |
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| 14:50.45 | _zest_ | nano /proc/asound/cards give this: |
| 14:50.47 | _zest_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.47 | _zest_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.55 | _zest_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:52.15 | _zest_ | i put this : "options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=vaio" at the end of the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf |
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| 14:52.25 | _zest_ | but this has no effects |
| 14:52.47 | Sbroker` | http://imagebin.org/306983 |
| 14:53.08 | mad_hatter | in the gnome 3 shell is there a hotkey that I can use to cycle between windows |
| 14:53.15 | Sbroker` | fucking iso converted from Bin |
| 14:53.19 | mad_hatter | instead of having to click on Activities everytime |
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| 14:54.24 | lmat | hahaha! I did ll **/*vim* -d; on the debian 2 disk. I found |
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| 14:54.40 | lmat | pool/main/v/vim..., debian/pool/main/v/vim.. debian/debian/pool/main/v/vim |
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| 14:54.51 | lmat | Sure enough, debian is a symbolic link to '.' :( |
| 14:55.01 | Zynz | i was wondering if the network proxy used by default for all preinstall programs ? |
| 14:55.14 | dwffcas | where are the logs located for nfs server running raspbian on the raspberry pi? |
| 14:55.15 | lmat | Apparently ** does a depth-first search...but I'm not sure how it decided when to stop. |
| 14:55.38 | _zest_ | is there a drive to install ? i think sound should works on Debian ? |
| 14:55.42 | _zest_ | *driver |
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| 14:56.16 | lmat | _zest_: Yes, sound should work on debian :) |
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| 14:56.19 | shingouz | dwffcas: you should ask in the appropriate channel, try something like #raspbian |
| 14:56.50 | _zest_ | lmat: so how can i test the installation ? |
| 14:57.00 | _zest_ | how can i test something is missing |
| 14:57.16 | lmat | _zest_: I guess you need to run something like paplay ? |
| 14:57.21 | dwffcas | shingouz: i asked in #raspbian but its pretty quiet in there nobody has answered me yet. I thought here was the next best place since raspbian is basically debian |
| 14:57.33 | _zest_ | lmat: you means aplay -l |
| 14:57.34 | Zynz | i was wondering if the network proxy used by default for all preinstall programs ? |
| 14:57.40 | shingouz | !based on debian |
| 14:57.40 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 14:58.12 | lmat | _zest_: I don't know that tag... |
| 14:58.19 | _zest_ | paplay give error |
| 14:58.22 | lmat | _zest_: er argument. I would use paplay myfile.wav or something |
| 14:58.26 | _zest_ | can't open audio file |
| 14:58.27 | dwffcas | shingouz: ok sorry. well where are they usually located in debian? |
| 14:58.33 | lmat | _zest_: Did you run man paplay ? |
| 14:58.38 | _zest_ | it's like aplay -l so |
| 14:59.01 | lmat | _zest_: sorry ? |
| 14:59.17 | shingouz | dwffcas: i have not used nfs since i stopped sysadminning the ark, i seem to remember that /var/log should be the correct place |
| 14:59.25 | lmat | _zest_: Oh, never heard of aplay... I see aplay -l. What does yours return ? |
| 14:59.49 | dwffcas | shingouz: yeah i checked there but no logs relating to nfs that I can see |
| 15:00.06 | _zest_ | lmat: paplay my_file don't do nothing |
| 15:00.15 | lmat | _zest_: what does aplay -l give ? |
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| 15:00.44 | shingouz | !tell dwffcas about nfs |
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| 15:01.11 | _zest_ | lmat: it gives this : http://pastie.org/9100621 |
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| 15:01.38 | lmat | _zest_: Hey, You have a sound card! |
| 15:01.39 | shingouz | dwffcas: maybe what dpkg tolf you is of some help. currently i really do not have anything running nfs anymore so i cannot even search my systems here. have you tried google, perhaps? |
| 15:01.40 | _zest_ | it's says card is INTEL HDA |
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| 15:01.47 | _zest_ | lmat: great news indeed |
| 15:01.49 | _zest_ | :) |
| 15:01.52 | dwffcas | shingouz: cool thanks I'll check that out |
| 15:01.55 | lmat | _zest_: Unfortunately, it's busted... |
| 15:02.02 | _zest_ | i would like it to work |
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| 15:02.16 | lmat | _zest_: the 'e's have little marks above them, and it's obviously possessed by the devil. I've never seen a computer say "Sous" that wasn't possessed. |
| 15:02.21 | shingouz | dwffcas: a bigger hammer might also help... :p |
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| 15:02.40 | lmat | _zest_: "List" is misspelled, and "des" isn't a word... This is typical possession. |
| 15:02.42 | dwffcas | shingouz: I'll head over to #linux-nfs see if they can help. no worries thanks anyway dude. |
| 15:02.48 | _zest_ | lmat: it's a french translated message |
| 15:02.49 | shingouz | np |
| 15:02.56 | lmat | _zest_: Right, that's what I said |
| 15:03.04 | lmat | _zest_: okay, do you have any sound files ? |
| 15:03.08 | _zest_ | yes |
| 15:03.11 | dwffcas | shigouz: haha yeah get the man tools out and see if they can fix it ha |
| 15:03.13 | lmat | _zest_: play them with paplay |
| 15:03.14 | _zest_ | i have a .wav file |
| 15:03.20 | lmat | _zest_: Oh, did you try that already ? |
| 15:03.25 | _zest_ | i tried, no sound ! |
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| 15:03.30 | lmat | _zest_: No errors ? |
| 15:03.34 | _zest_ | no |
| 15:03.37 | _zest_ | just no sound at all |
| 15:03.39 | lmat | _zest_: turn the volume up... |
| 15:03.43 | _zest_ | :) |
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| 15:04.15 | lmat | _zest_: Do you have speakers ? |
| 15:04.18 | _zest_ | volume is up, audio file is reading, but got no sound |
| 15:04.34 | _zest_ | i have vaio speaker |
| 15:04.54 | lmat | _zest_: I'll assume it's on, plugged in properly, and the volume is up ^_^ |
| 15:05.00 | lmat | _zest_: (not too loud.. it might work!) |
| 15:05.06 | lmat | _zest_: run amixer |
| 15:05.26 | lmat | _zest_: And paste the result into something besides pastebin (pastie.org?) |
| 15:05.49 | _zest_ | http://pastie.org/9100630 |
| 15:05.53 | _zest_ | fr amixer result |
| 15:05.57 | _zest_ | *for |
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| 15:06.30 | lmat | _zest_: Oh, you used pastie before! I thought you had used pastebin :D |
| 15:06.59 | _zest_ | it's the same for me ... |
| 15:06.59 | lmat | _zest_: That looks good to me, you ? |
| 15:07.24 | lmat | _zest_: Meet me in #pulseaudio ? |
| 15:07.30 | _zest_ | ok |
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| 15:20.23 | akp | hello, i am trying to write an init script for a debian machine, but am having trouble figuring out how the provides are translated. |
| 15:20.27 | akp | i see some scripts that require network, but i don't see anything that provides network |
| 15:20.31 | akp | but there is something that provides networking, how does this get translated. |
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| 15:23.00 | centrx | akp, Try #debian-mentors on OFTC |
| 15:23.09 | akp | centrx: thanks |
| 15:23.42 | febian | Hello. When I watch videos with mplayer or vlc or skype, the video frames terribly. Specifically, the frames don't change till I click on the image. |
| 15:23.55 | febian | On the mplayer stdout, I get: |
| 15:23.56 | febian | [vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 1 |
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| 15:24.03 | febian | but the rest seem normal |
| 15:24.13 | febian | Maybe it's something to do with my gfx drivers. |
| 15:24.31 | febian | but it should work normally. i'm using a thinkpad with 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b) |
| 15:24.34 | febian | Can someone help me? |
| 15:24.58 | centrx | febian, Graphics driver problem makes sense for skipping video |
| 15:25.03 | febian | right |
| 15:25.30 | centrx | febian, You seem to have some kind of Intel graphics card |
| 15:25.49 | centrx | febian, Do you also have a second graphics card in this particular laptop? |
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| 15:27.06 | centrx | febian, Do you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed? |
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| 15:27.54 | febian | ColmeneroM: yes! |
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| 15:28.01 | febian | i A xserver-xorg-video-intel - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver |
| 15:28.14 | centrx | i A |
| 15:28.18 | centrx | maybe that A means something |
| 15:28.33 | febian | here is the lspci: https://privatepaste.com/4b53e3b182 |
| 15:28.33 | ColmeneroM | mm.. |
| 15:28.39 | jibos | I have a problem with mount.cifs... may somebody help me? |
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| 15:29.24 | febian | centrx: I get A in all packages related to X |
| 15:29.33 | febian | actually, in all installed packages. |
| 15:29.35 | febian | I don't think it's related. |
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| 15:30.08 | jibos | mount error: could not resolve address for... |
| 15:30.11 | febian | [ 94.190] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) |
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| 15:30.14 | febian | centrx: ^ |
| 15:30.15 | febian | centrx: wtf? |
| 15:30.19 | febian | centrx: this is from my xorg.log |
| 15:30.54 | jibos | are there some experts in samba? |
| 15:31.12 | centrx | febian, Try uninstalling all other X graphics drivers other than the intel one? |
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| 15:31.35 | febian | centrx: :/ |
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| 15:34.11 | deb | que mas tienes que decir, mr Sbroker` ? o assbroker? |
| 15:34.34 | Sbroker` | babilen: |
| 15:34.43 | Sbroker` | use dpkg es |
| 15:34.46 | Sbroker` | dpkg: es |
| 15:34.46 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 15:35.00 | Sbroker` | for the ded troll |
| 15:35.02 | Sbroker` | xD |
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| 15:36.20 | jibos | samba experts? |
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| 15:37.22 | wols_ | jibos: show the commandline and its error. in a pastebin like paste.debian.net |
| 15:37.49 | wols_ | jibos: most likely you use a name instead of a IP and that can't be resolved |
| 15:38.00 | wols_ | !tell jibos about ask |
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| 15:40.57 | jibos | wols_: thank you wols_ |
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| 15:42.26 | jibos | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/95074/ |
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| 15:44.03 | jibos | it doesn't work with the ip |
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| 15:45.38 | jelly | !ops deb!~deb@said.with.a.disagreeable.air.leprechuan.net abusive/trolling |
| 15:45.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj: jelly complains about: deb!~deb@said.with.a.disagreeable.air.leprechuan.net abusive/trolling |
| 15:46.32 | centrx | ? |
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| 15:46.58 | deb | not me |
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| 15:47.42 | deb | this is a different deb user not sbroker ...well srry |
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| 15:47.52 | denysonique_ | How can I get to know what commands `dpkg --configure -a` is executing? |
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| 16:05.57 | petn-randall | denysonique_: You could strace it. |
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| 16:06.14 | petn-randall | denysonique_: Or just ask a question specific to your problem. :) |
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| 16:23.51 | Nindustries | So I have a debian chroot on my (ubuntu) synology NAS. Would it be possible to install drivers of a tuner card on this chroot and make it work like that? |
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| 16:24.26 | tomodachi | Nindustries: is your nas x86? |
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| 16:24.38 | tomodachi | those drivers would have to exist for your architecture if its not x86 |
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| 16:24.53 | Nindustries | tomodachi, Yes |
| 16:24.59 | tomodachi | well then yes its possible I presume |
| 16:25.05 | Nindustries | Actually, it's DSM on normal hardware tomocha6 |
| 16:25.06 | tomodachi | synology is not using debian to my knowledge though |
| 16:25.10 | Nindustries | tomodachi, * |
| 16:25.13 | Nindustries | ubuntu |
| 16:25.24 | Nindustries | But there's a debian chroot extension package ;-) |
| 16:25.38 | Nindustries | Well, a heavily modified ubuntu |
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| 16:26.06 | tomodachi | install the card and get the module loaded then the userland should be failry straight forward if you can get a hold of the userland components |
| 16:26.12 | scampbell | Just checking before I go spin one up, there's not debian saucy (net)install with the bnx2 firmware already in the image is there? |
| 16:26.13 | tomodachi | afk |
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| 16:26.29 | tomodachi | scampbell: you can google for non free net inst isos |
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| 16:26.32 | jelly | Nindustries: it would be possible, if you had build headers for the exact kernel running |
| 16:26.39 | tomodachi | there are unofficial repos that include firmwares |
| 16:27.23 | Nindustries | jelly, Well i'm working on that |
| 16:27.24 | scampbell | thx, I'll do that. Easier then respinning my own :) (grumble curse installs via ipmi) |
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| 16:27.36 | jelly | Nindustries: since the kernel is GPL, your vendor is obliged to provide the source tree and config options |
| 16:28.07 | Nindustries | Problem is the sourceforge page literally takes ages to load |
| 16:28.30 | jelly | cringes |
| 16:28.37 | Nindustries | (to get the toolchain & src) |
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| 16:30.16 | Nindustries | Is it that slow with you guys too? http://sourceforge.net/projects/dsgpl/files/ |
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| 16:31.31 | jelly | opened in under 3 seconds |
| 16:31.36 | Nindustries | sighs |
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| 16:33.08 | somiaj | denysonique_: dpkg --configure -a, it runs the --configure commands (which means the pre/post install scripts) on all (-a) packages that have been unpacked but not configured on your system. |
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| 16:35.27 | scampbell | Nindustries: it's really slow here too. A bit of traceroute shows 85% packet loss at the edge o savvis.net who appears to be the isp for sourceforge. Mind you, that doesn't mean everyone is having that issue. I'm at a comcast supplied site right now and I know their BGP has been monkeyed for days which can cause just this sort of thing. |
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| 16:35.55 | Nindustries | I was just checking it out too scampbell, but thanks for the head's up |
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| 16:36.32 | Nindustries | Just have to wait it out then. |
| 16:36.37 | Nindustries | But good to know it can be done |
| 16:36.51 | scampbell | of curiousity, whose the isp on your end? |
| 16:37.50 | Nindustries | scampbell, Telenet (Belgium) |
| 16:38.06 | Nindustries | I hate the firm, but it provides the best internet here |
| 16:38.17 | scampbell | ah, just wondered if this was specific to comcast. clearly not. |
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| 16:42.55 | Nindustries | but gtg, thanks for the answers guys |
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| 17:29.54 | asterismo | hi people |
| 17:30.04 | asterismo | i have a problem with debian 7 XFCE |
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| 17:30.43 | asterismo | i hit openbox --replace to switch to openbox window manager and when rising up iceweasel window, openbox starts to eat 100% of CPU non stop |
| 17:30.55 | intelikey | anyone know what file this permissions error is about ? >>> Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct <<< i mean which file it is ??? |
| 17:30.57 | asterismo | and my netbook gets very laggy |
| 17:31.10 | asterismo | this happens to me in a couple of machines |
| 17:31.17 | asterismo | anyone experienced this? |
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| 17:31.54 | wols_ | asterismo: why don't you select openbox frm the start of your X session |
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| 17:41.55 | asterismo | wols_, i did that, i edited the /etc/xdg/xfce4/... .xml and set the openbox as default instead of xfwm4, but it messes up with iceweasel window |
| 17:42.06 | asterismo | wols_, i dunno, someone has the same issue? |
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| 17:43.04 | poeticrpm | asterismo: strange. How do you launch xfce? |
| 17:43.18 | asterismo | i have debian 7 xfce |
| 17:43.24 | asterismo | it starts with lightdm |
| 17:43.44 | asterismo | poeticrpm, it is strange, yes |
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| 17:44.03 | asterismo | it happens me in a sony vaio and a desktop pc as well |
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| 17:44.19 | asterismo | the same debian version, up to date, with openbox, openbox-themes and obconf |
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| 17:44.26 | poeticrpm | hmmm... what about having lightdm launch openbox and then have openbox's autostart launch all the xfce components? It should be xfdesktop, xfce4-panel, etc |
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| 17:45.13 | asterismo | poeticrpm, i edited this file: /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml |
| 17:45.19 | poeticrpm | well, I have iceweasel and openbox, AND im using thunar, xfce4-panel... no issue. This is on Debian and my Arch install. But, I dont launch xfce- I launch openbox |
| 17:45.24 | asterismo | and changed xfwm4 to openbox |
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| 17:45.52 | asterismo | and it works, xfwm4 is not launched at startup and openbox is launched as expected |
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| 17:46.04 | asterismo | but the iceweasel application corrupts the openbox |
| 17:46.11 | poeticrpm | asterismo: right, and that should work. Since it doesnt, I would try openbox and launching xfce components to see if you have the same problem |
| 17:46.27 | poeticrpm | that should not be possible |
| 17:46.34 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. So "wine" and "wine64-bin" appear to exist in squeeze but I'm unable to install either one, getting "E: Package 'wine' has no installation candidate" and "E: Unable to locate package wine64-bin" What am I doing wrong? |
| 17:46.47 | Pegasus_RPG | s/squeeze/wheezy/ |
| 17:47.15 | asterismo | poeticrpm, but XFCE desktop launches a lot of stuff for me, how do i set it to be launched in openbox? |
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| 17:48.06 | poeticrpm | asterismo: I have heard of some people having issues with trying to set a wm inside of xfce- google will show you. Openbox handles all launching with a file called /home/user/.config/openbox/autostart |
| 17:48.53 | poeticrpm | there is also an application you can use to setup autostart, but im not sure its in the debian repos. |
| 17:48.57 | asterismo | and what applications are launched by default in XFCE? |
| 17:49.15 | asterismo | i don't want to miss them |
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| 17:50.13 | poeticrpm | asterismo: I dont know. If you launch xfce4-panel and xfdesktop, it will function exactly like xfce does |
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| 17:50.34 | poeticrpm | anything else you would easily figure it out by using it |
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| 17:50.57 | asterismo | poeticrpm, yeah, but keyrings and daemons like that |
| 17:51.05 | asterismo | poeticrpm, what a mess |
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| 17:51.47 | poeticrpm | asterismo: keyrings should load when you need them. If youre talking about consolekit and all that, lightdm should handle that for you |
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| 17:52.03 | asterismo | poeticrpm, ok thanks |
| 17:52.07 | poeticrpm | I dont believe xfce uses any daemons, other than maybe thunar |
| 17:52.21 | poeticrpm | but it doesnt really matter |
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| 17:53.01 | asterismo | poeticrpm, i edited my lightdm.conf for autologin of my user, how do i change the XFCE desktop to openbox? |
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| 17:55.17 | poeticrpm | asterismo: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM |
| 17:55.30 | poeticrpm | get used to reading Arch wikis because they are the best |
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| 17:56.08 | poeticrpm | I just use startx so :P |
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| 18:17.43 | giorgiodinapoli | can i somehow create a snapshot via lvm or something of installed system, test something and then restart from clean? |
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| 18:33.07 | taylanub | anyone have it that serif fonts, e.g. new Wikipedia headers, are aliased as hell ? |
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| 18:35.29 | rgr | giorgiodinapoli: yo might just consider using rsync to a full backup. But what do you mean by "test something"? |
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| 18:55.54 | adkins | i`m having issue after issue with pm-suspend (pm-utils).......using s2ram (uswsusp) for a couple of minutes. seems to be more stable to me. does anything speak against uswusp and s2ram? i think its deprecated..... |
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| 19:02.04 | nkuttler | adkins: yeah, deprecated.. define issue? |
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| 19:06.20 | adkins | nkuttler: if i make "pm-suspend" it works not always, sometimes i get "some devices failed to suspend" . to be more precise: http://pastebin.com/GsLqwSPQ . Well i thought i found a workaround with doing a rmmod e1000e before suspending. well it always suspends fine but sometimes the second screen just doesnt get a signal. it works after i then suspend and wakeup again.... |
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| 19:07.48 | adkins | PLUS: i have a script in which i arrange some xterms, above and below each other. after a pm-suspend the windows are not where they should be (using xrandr) |
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| 19:08.12 | adkins | if i use s2ram......it seems like no issues at all |
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| 19:15.03 | adkins | nkuttler: what do you think? |
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| 19:17.28 | average | adkins: then use s2ram, or report bugs to whatever pm-suspend or something |
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| 19:27.03 | adkins | average: thx |
| 19:27.26 | adkins | hoping s2ram will be stable in the long term ;) |
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| 19:27.53 | average | adkins: all packages in testing will be stable in the long term, or they will not be in stable, right? |
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| 19:28.21 | average | and all bugs will be.. solved in the long term |
| 19:28.25 | average | depends what long term is |
| 19:28.30 | average | or if the bugs are really worth it |
| 19:28.37 | average | or if they are reported |
| 19:28.46 | average | or if there's someone who is willing to invest in solving them |
| 19:28.54 | average | or if ... so many ifs.. |
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| 19:32.31 | average | I even wonder how Debian releases are actually made, I'll have to study the documentation better |
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| 19:32.46 | average | but I imagine it's not easy at all |
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| 19:32.52 | babilen | average: Read http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.release-lifecycle.html |
| 19:34.32 | average | babilen: thanks dude, that's an interesting page |
| 19:34.43 | average | babilen: I'm reading it |
| 19:34.55 | adkins | never reported a bug,......isnt "dangerous" of sending my email with it? dont want to be spammed...should i set up a new email for this? |
| 19:35.08 | adkins | is it "dangerous" .... * |
| 19:35.19 | average | but what I meant was also along the lines of "how do these people find the time/commitment to do all of this" or "how is this all done at the same time for one single release of debian" |
| 19:35.45 | average | adkins: or you could just make a mail forwarder |
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| 19:36.15 | average | adkins: I've heard there have been people who had medical problems caused by spam |
| 19:36.26 | adkins | lol |
| 19:36.51 | average | adkins: no really, it's not a joke, you always have to check the expiry date on the can |
| 19:37.24 | sumfvm | Spam isn't ham? |
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| 19:38.58 | average | sumfvm: sort-of-like ham, it seems to be some form of compressed pork meat with a lot of preservatives http://i.imgur.com/MoV0paD.jpg |
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| 19:43.37 | average | sumfvm: but a can of 340g of spam is $2.50 , so it's quite cheap |
| 19:44.28 | kingsley | Is slashdot.org up? |
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| 19:45.28 | petern_ | Yes. |
| 19:46.24 | average | kingsley: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/slashdot.org.html |
| 19:47.14 | joltcan | average: Damn, you beat me to it! |
| 19:47.54 | average | joltcan: we should team up and make a bot so we can ask it if it's down or not |
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| 20:00.23 | freeone3000 | I followed http://poptop.sourceforge.net/dox/debian-howto.phtml to set up PPTP on a server. However, my phone cannot connect to the server using PPTP and other settings. The phone can find the server, but there are no entries in either debug or dump related to pptp. What should I try next? |
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| 20:00.49 | kingsley | petern_ & average: Thank you. Now I see that slashdot works for me too, if I use a proxy. |
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| 20:01.14 | doublehp | how to make TB remove the signature from replies ? |
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| 20:03.07 | joltcan | average: :) |
| 20:05.09 | joltcan | freeone3000: I don't really remember since I don't use pptp, but there is two options file, one for ppp and one for pptp, I think you have to enable debug in both |
| 20:05.09 | average | doublehp: TB has a hidden feature called Mutt |
| 20:05.17 | average | doublehp: you can install it through sudo aptitude install mutt |
| 20:05.32 | average | doublehp: it will help you to remove signatures and whatnot |
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| 20:05.55 | doublehp | average: i know TB sux; i am trying to fix the PC of a friend |
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| 20:06.04 | average | doublehp: TB also has an older hidden feature called procmail, that too can help you remove signatures from messages(whether they're stored in mbox, maildir or what-have-you) |
| 20:06.37 | doublehp | average: when he replies to me, his TB leaves my sign |
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| 20:07.05 | joltcan | freeone3000: have you enabled forwarding and made sure no iptables rules are interfering? |
| 20:07.27 | average | doublehp: http://www.netikka.net/tsneti/info/proctips.php#delsig |
| 20:07.34 | average | doublehp: "How can I remove the signature from the incoming email?" |
| 20:09.16 | freeone3000 | joltcan: I've enabled forwarding and checke IPTables, yes. But if I were just able to connect to the server, that'd be one thing. I can't even connect to the server. |
| 20:09.21 | doublehp | average: i want to fix his TB.... not revise his whole computer and install 12 services |
| 20:09.32 | doublehp | average: it's a TB issue, cause my TB does it |
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| 20:15.59 | average | doublehp: ok, I have a solution for you |
| 20:16.05 | average | doublehp: do you want to know it? |
| 20:16.12 | doublehp | if its a TB one |
| 20:16.37 | average | then I won't tell you |
| 20:17.06 | joltcan | freeone3000: can you run pptp by its own and maybe add some nice flags to it? |
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| 20:21.19 | freeone3000 | joltcan: "anon fatal[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:127]: Could not open control connection to 162.249.90.202". Looks like the server's refusing the control connection. |
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| 20:22.23 | joltcan | freeone3000: is that your IP? |
| 20:22.48 | joltcan | freeone3000: is the config set to listen to a particular IP? If so, test 0.0.0.0 instead |
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| 20:23.31 | joltcan | freeone3000: I'm going to bed now, good luck |
| 20:24.07 | freeone3000 | joltcan: It is my IP, and the server is listening on 0.0.0.0 |
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| 20:29.47 | gour | i've the following grub problem - http://velenux.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/grub-probe-error-cannot-find-a-grub-drive-for-devsda2/ but can't find any bug recent bug ticket in regard? |
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| 20:41.11 | average | doublehp: were you able to solve your TB problem ? |
| 20:42.14 | doublehp | see that later ; i gave him some links; he ll do that later |
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| 20:43.33 | average | :)) |
| 20:43.34 | average | ok |
| 20:45.45 | average | doublehp: now.. the TB solution to your problem would of course be a TB addon. I have searched for one to do what you need, but wasn't able to find one |
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| 20:45.55 | average | I'm a former mozilla extension developer, but.. my time is limited |
| 20:46.16 | average | and right now I'm working on some stuff |
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| 20:46.54 | average | but if you want to try writing an extension for this and you put the code on github I'll have a peek at it, maybe submit a patch |
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| 20:47.45 | average | or maybe not.. I dunno |
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| 20:52.06 | doublehp | average: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/signature-switch/ |
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| 20:52.34 | average | lol, does it work? |
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| 20:52.46 | Estuaria | hello |
| 20:52.52 | average | doublehp: I thought you meant "actually-remove-the-signature-from-the-email" |
| 20:53.12 | Estuaria | im almost new with debian, could one of you help me to config xorg? :/ |
| 20:53.21 | average | not "dont-display-the-signature-i-sent-him-although-its-still-there" |
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| 20:54.00 | doublehp | average: maybe this stuff can do it |
| 20:54.03 | freeone3000 | Estuaria: Install a display manager, such as kdm, xdm, or gdm. It's not worth the hassle to do it yourself. |
| 20:54.13 | Estuaria | now im with openbox |
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| 20:54.20 | Estuaria | my bf install it on my pc |
| 20:54.35 | Estuaria | all works fine, but videos runs bad |
| 20:54.53 | freeone3000 | Estuaria: Who made your video card? |
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| 20:55.21 | Estuaria | its a ati radeon xpress 200 |
| 20:55.46 | average | Estuaria: you mean videos on youtube ? |
| 20:55.49 | Estuaria | yep |
| 20:55.57 | average | Estuaria: ok, then download this extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ |
| 20:56.11 | average | Estuaria: then you can use it to download the videos on youtube, and you can use a regular video player to view them |
| 20:56.18 | average | instead of the adobe mess |
| 20:56.37 | average | vlc is a good video player |
| 20:56.51 | Estuaria | hmm it's nice solution, but... i think, i'll need have good configurated xorg to another things too, no? |
| 20:57.35 | average | Estuaria: does your xorg run now? |
| 20:58.16 | Estuaria | ehmm... i think so |
| 20:58.26 | Estuaria | i mean, im not in a shell now |
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| 20:58.50 | average | well, there you go, it already runs |
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| 20:59.14 | Estuaria | in other channel an user (which is offline now) helps me to install driver, but tells me that i could configurate it |
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| 20:59.51 | Estuaria | the lag with videos happens too with other video sites (played.to, allmyvideos, etc) |
| 21:00.09 | average | all of those sites are supported by the Firefox extension I mentioned above |
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| 21:00.39 | Estuaria | hmmm... but that extension works fine?? |
| 21:00.39 | average | a regular video player like vlc/mplayer will work fine even without a native video driver |
| 21:00.45 | average | that extension works great |
| 21:00.54 | average | I don't use Adobe Flash because of that extension |
| 21:01.00 | average | like... ever |
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| 21:02.10 | Estuaria | ohp, im using google chrome... theres an alternative i think... |
| 21:02.16 | Estuaria | lookin' it |
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| 21:06.26 | Lucy18 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.58 | average | Estuaria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116322/why-do-flash-players-consume-up-to-20-times-more-cpu-than-vlc-player-to-view-exa |
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| 21:07.16 | average | Estuaria: "When I play a video (H264 MPEG4 AVC 320x180) online (in Firefox or Chrome) it uses to consume up to 100% CPU, but if I download it (exactly the file played) and use VLC - it takes just 5% (6% at maximum)" |
| 21:07.35 | Estuaria | wow |
| 21:07.39 | average | :) |
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| 21:08.47 | Estuaria | i just install an replacer for chrome (youtube -> vlc) |
| 21:09.02 | Estuaria | but the video appears in html5 |
| 21:09.31 | average | do you feel any change from what you had before? |
| 21:09.40 | Estuaria | more lag |
| 21:09.41 | Estuaria | :( |
| 21:09.44 | average | btw, I can only guarantee that the extension I linked you to works |
| 21:09.48 | Estuaria | this computer is old... :/ |
| 21:09.55 | average | I don't know about the extension you're using in Chrome |
| 21:09.58 | Estuaria | but it is for firefox : |
| 21:10.07 | average | but this one works great https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ |
| 21:10.13 | comradekingu | average: hardware acceleration isnt on by default in chrome for linux |
| 21:10.24 | freeone3000 | Estuaria: This problem can be averted by enabling hardware acceleration and installing proper graphics drivers. |
| 21:10.50 | average | freeone3000: installing gfx drivers is a drag |
| 21:11.47 | average | well.. it depends how fancy your gfx card is I guess.. |
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| 21:12.16 | freeone3000 | Their card is a Radeon XPress 200. New enough to have sucky open-source support, old enough that the catalyst for it isn't open-source itself. https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
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| 21:12.52 | bin_sh | how can i update my mirrorlist? it seems like when i try to upgrade everything is 404 |
| 21:13.49 | mf|pc | what operating systme bin_sh |
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| 21:13.52 | mf|pc | it may be your cache is out of date |
| 21:14.08 | mf|pc | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 21:14.15 | mf|pc | will update sources and then do an upgrade of packages. |
| 21:14.20 | bin_sh | debian 6 |
| 21:14.23 | bin_sh | i did that |
| 21:14.25 | bin_sh | and they 404 |
| 21:14.31 | Estuaria | freeone3000 i did that u say |
| 21:14.53 | bin_sh | mf|pc: https://pastee.org/28xhy |
| 21:15.04 | Estuaria | now im installing things :D |
| 21:15.23 | mf|pc | Is the machine your on capable of talking via IP Version 6. |
| 21:15.36 | mf|pc | I have had to disable IP Version 6 before to stop it getting IP Version 6 dns for mirros |
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| 21:16.52 | bin_sh | yes ipv6 works |
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| 21:17.38 | mf|pc | Looks like the mirrors to blame |
| 21:17.56 | mf|pc | It may be worth trying the ip version 4 servers to see if the filex exist there |
| 21:18.00 | Dagger | http://ftp.debian.org/debian-security/dists/squeeze/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz is 404ing |
| 21:18.11 | petern_ | bin_sh, paste your sources list |
| 21:18.17 | Dagger | regardless of protocol, so let's not jump on the "blame v6" bandwagon just because a v6 address shows up in the error |
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| 21:18.38 | mf|pc | Dagger I know, just an issue I had with a server recently. |
| 21:18.57 | mf|pc | Once i switched it to IP Version 4 it worked, I wish ISP's and hosts would move to IP Version 6 and get us out the dark ages as much as you :-) |
| 21:20.10 | bin_sh | petern_: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 21:20.11 | bin_sh | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian-security squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 21:20.52 | petern_ | Looks wrong... deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
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| 21:22.25 | bin_sh | thanks petern_ that worked |
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| 21:25.03 | freeone3000 | I'm trying to get a pptp tunnel working. My phone can't connect to the server, so I'm trying to get the server to connect to itself. https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/da658a8e0a986b25b5f8 is my erros and my config files. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 21:33.03 | TheQuestionmark | Would anyone recommend me to upgrade the nVidia drivers on Stable since I'm a gamer and stuff? |
| 21:33.30 | babilen | TheQuestionmark: Sure, you can get newer versions from wheezy-backports |
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| 21:33.35 | babilen | judd: v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 21:33.36 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.88-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates/non-free: 304.117-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.82-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 331.49-1; sid/non-free: 331.49-1 |
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| 21:34.56 | babilen | TheQuestionmark: See https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for general installation instructions, but note that you would have to sprinkle in a "aptitude -r -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms" in there to get the drivers from there. Also see <wheezy-backports> -- /msg dpkg wheezy-backports |
| 21:35.03 | h1nd | hello all. I am on a RPi with raspbmc installed, and I want to install the package "cryptsetup" but I am getting error ==> "The following packages have unmet dependencies: upstart : Breaks: cryptsetup (< 2:1.4.3-4.1) but 2:1.4.3-4 is to be installed. |
| 21:35.16 | h1nd | any clues how to fix that? How can I get cryptsetup installed? |
| 21:35.22 | babilen | dpkg: raspbmc |
| 21:35.22 | dpkg | Raspbmc is a Linux distribution enabling the <Raspberry Pi> to operate as an <XBMC> front-end. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.raspbmc.com/ #raspbmc on chat.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 21:36.31 | TheQuestionmark | babilen: Now, to my knowledge the backport drivers are 319 or so while other distros such as Arch are at 332 or so, also stable. |
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| 21:37.07 | TheQuestionmark | Back in the days of Squeeze I just got those off nVs homepage but things got complicated with multiarch. |
| 21:37.07 | babilen | TheQuestionmark: I can not comment on other distributions, but regarding the version in wheezy-backports you are correct |
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| 21:38.33 | babilen | TheQuestionmark: 331 is in jessie/sid, but that version has not been backported yet. You might want to try backporting it yourself (cf. <ssb>, <package recompile>) or you could upgrade to either <testing> or <unstable> if you consider that an option. |
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| 21:39.32 | cvillavicencio | help |
| 21:39.49 | TheQuestionmark | Nah~ I like to have stable systems, especially now that Debian's init-service will change, I'd rather be careful with upgrading to Testing. |
| 21:39.54 | cvillavicencio | i'd enter here a little time ago |
| 21:40.11 | cvillavicencio | i cant view anything... D: freeone3000 |
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| 21:40.34 | babilen | TheQuestionmark: Sure - in that case I would recommend to either be happy with the version in wheezy-backports or to backport the new version yourself. |
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| 21:41.04 | TheQuestionmark | Well then it's time to use backports again, I suppse. |
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| 21:41.07 | TheQuestionmark | +o |
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| 21:41.19 | babilen | Have fun! |
| 21:41.49 | babilen | TheQuestionmark: Please also note that "stable" simply means "not changing" and nothing else in the context of Debian (cf. <stable>) |
| 21:41.51 | cvillavicencio | freeone3000 are you there?? |
| 21:42.14 | babilen | cvillavicencio: This is a technical support channel for Debian. Do you have a specific problem we can help you with? |
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| 21:43.10 | S4nD3r | please |
| 21:43.14 | S4nD3r | I did a messy |
| 21:43.27 | S4nD3r | How do I install my video card again |
| 21:43.38 | TheQuestionmark | babilen: That's a point but then again, why does a backports repo exist in the first place? |
| 21:43.39 | S4nD3r | I was trying to install nvidia proprietary driver |
| 21:43.48 | S4nD3r | and now, it's not working anymore |
| 21:43.49 | oldpentium1 | i have an old pentium 1 laptop which does NOT have a floppy drive but a cdrom drive. The bios does NOT support booting from cdrom. However, it has Debian 5.0.2 installed on the tiny 2GB hard drive. The laptop does NOT have Internet access, no usb ports and at present i have no wireless pcmicia cards. How can i make it boot from cdrom? Debian 5.0.2 is up and running. |
| 21:44.05 | babilen | TheQuestionmark: So users have the option to install newer software on current releases. |
| 21:44.23 | babilen | S4nD3r: Did you follow the instructions on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? |
| 21:44.56 | S4nD3r | Yes |
| 21:45.04 | S4nD3r | But, It didn't work |
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| 21:45.12 | S4nD3r | I need to install nvidia to programming in CUDA |
| 21:45.33 | babilen | S4nD3r: Why is that? Have you checked that your card is supported by the driver version you installed? |
| 21:45.58 | S4nD3r | sure |
| 21:45.59 | S4nD3r | but |
| 21:46.01 | S4nD3r | the problem is |
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| 21:46.13 | S4nD3r | in the moment there are meny drivers installed |
| 21:46.15 | S4nD3r | many* |
| 21:46.39 | S4nD3r | there are many Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- |
| 21:46.44 | babilen | S4nD3r: The method I linked about should have installed a single driver only and DKMS should have taken care to compile that for all installed kernels |
| 21:46.57 | S4nD3r | Yes |
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| 21:46.59 | S4nD3r | I think so |
| 21:46.59 | Rhianne18 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.02 | babilen | dpkg: tell S4nD3r -about enter |
| 21:47.50 | S4nD3r | Can you help me? |
| 21:47.51 | babilen | meh, /me is off for today. All the best and consider providing a precise description of your actual problem. Provide applicable logs, commands and output on http://paste.debian.net |
| 21:48.13 | oldpentium1 | anyone? |
| 21:48.24 | babilen | S4nD3r: Start with elaborating on "it didn't work" |
| 21:48.39 | babilen | oldpentium1: No idea, you can probably dist-upgrade that to wheezy |
| 21:48.49 | S4nD3r | gdm is working on safemode |
| 21:48.58 | S4nD3r | there's no video effects in gnome |
| 21:49.19 | babilen | oldpentium1: Start with <lenny->squeeze> and take it from there -- /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 21:49.30 | oldpentium1 | babilen, how can i dist-upgrade if i have NO internet access? |
| 21:50.08 | daemonkeeper | You get Squeeze CDs, add them, repeat the procedure. |
| 21:50.11 | oldpentium1 | babilen, sorry, i did not understand your 2nd messae |
| 21:50.15 | oldpentium1 | babilen, sorry, i did not understand your 2nd messag |
| 21:50.19 | oldpentium1 | babilen, sorry, i did not understand your 2nd message |
| 21:50.20 | daemonkeeper | Or DVDs. |
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| 21:50.46 | S4nD3r | This is my sources.list http://paste.debian.net/95144/ |
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| 21:51.04 | h1nd | what is a short and elegant way to check if a command is generating error level 0 or 1 ? I would like to do following: |
| 21:51.07 | babilen | S4nD3r: So you did something wrong, paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net along with the output of "dkms status" -- have fun! |
| 21:51.46 | babilen | S4nD3r: And you really shouldn't use "stable" in your sources.list but the actual release names (i.e. "wheezy") |
| 21:51.47 | h1nd | if "command1" will not be exited with 0, then "foobar" should be executed. If "command1" exit code is !=0 then "foobar" should not be executed. |
| 21:52.41 | h1nd | I want it very short in one line. I though of some kind of "[ command1 n] |
| 21:52.44 | h1nd | sorry |
| 21:52.47 | S4nD3r | Xorg.0 is in http://paste.debian.net/95145/ |
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| 21:52.55 | h1nd | I want it very short in one line. I though of some kind of "[ command1 ] && foobar |
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| 21:53.51 | S4nD3r | y |
| 21:54.16 | S4nD3r | should I change stable and put wheezy ? |
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| 21:56.24 | babilen | S4nD3r: You seem to have optimus hardware there rather than pure nvidia. See <bumblebee> and https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee for information about that. |
| 21:56.59 | S4nD3r | Yes! It's optimus |
| 21:57.05 | babilen | S4nD3r: This also means that you have to undo your nvidia driver installation |
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| 21:58.04 | peterrooney | h1nd: "command && foobar" |
| 21:58.16 | S4nD3r | How to uninstall this nvidia driver? |
| 21:58.26 | babilen | S4nD3r: And you almost certainly want to install drivers/software from wheezy-backports. And yes, please never use "stable" in your sources.list but always the actual codename such as "wheezy" (or you will upgrade to jessie by mistake once that has been released as stable) |
| 21:58.38 | babilen | S4nD3r: Just purge it and remove the configuration file you created |
| 21:59.14 | S4nD3r | how to do this? |
| 21:59.18 | S4nD3r | how to remove? |
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| 21:59.55 | h1nd | peterrooney: thank you |
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| 22:01.15 | babilen | S4nD3r: "apt-get purge ..." or "apt-get remove ..." comes to mind. You also have to remove your configuration file. |
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| 22:03.01 | S4nD3r | removing using rm ? |
| 22:03.11 | S4nD3r | the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
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| 22:09.14 | werunos | so I've got a problem with a machine i just set up |
| 22:09.27 | werunos | it seems to recognize that it has network hardware but it can't actually do connections |
| 22:09.40 | werunos | i'm on a bit of a weird network so it could just be that. |
| 22:09.58 | phogg | what kind of hardware? |
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| 22:12.36 | werunos | It's the onboard ethernet hardware on an ASUS h81m-p33 |
| 22:12.59 | werunos | motherboard |
| 22:13.20 | werunos | oh it's MSI |
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| 22:13.23 | werunos | wow i'm a dip. |
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| 22:15.19 | Estuaria | average are you there? |
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| 22:16.05 | Jordan_U | oldpentium1: So, boot Debian 5, insert the debian 7 install CD, and copy the kernel and initramfs from the CD to a new directory called "/boot/debian_7/" on the internal hard drive. |
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| 22:24.32 | oldpentium1 | Jordan_U, i am booting Debian 5 right now, as soon as i login as root and mount the cdrom, i will follow your instructions |
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| 22:32.41 | kittyman | Hey guys! I compiled a linux program (on debian). I am wondering where people usually store their compiled programs because right now it's in my downloads directory... :s |
| 22:33.30 | sakang | kittyman: usually in /usr/bin | lib | /opt |
| 22:33.49 | kittyman | oohh ok. Thank you sakang. I'll look at them all |
| 22:33.53 | sakang | try compiling with checkinstall |
| 22:34.03 | civillian | /usr/local/bin? |
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| 22:34.16 | sakang | so it will build a deb pkg which you can then install with dpkg |
| 22:35.05 | sakang | that way you removal is better too |
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| 22:38.13 | cafuego | kittyman: Don't put it in /bin or /usr/bin. that's where the debian packages put stuff. |
| 22:38.18 | kittyman | ok |
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| 22:38.51 | kittyman | I am trying out the checkinstall method |
| 22:39.29 | cafuego | kittyman: Depending on how or if you want to be able to remove it, you might compile with --prefix=/usr/local/appname, then symlink /usr/local/appname/bin/app to /usr/local/bin |
| 22:39.44 | cafuego | or indeed, checkinstall. if that works, much easier :-) |
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| 22:40.14 | kittyman | Yeah, I got it to work. Thank you and sakang!!! :) |
| 22:40.57 | sakang | np kittyman that's the debian way, and it makes pkg management better/easier for you in the long run |
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| 22:41.44 | kittyman | That is good to know. I was trying to do it with dpkg-buildpackage but was having a lot of trouble xD |
| 22:42.12 | kittyman | I guess that is only if you are making packages for the repository or something? |
| 22:43.14 | sakang | that's the standard but it works pretty well for personal stuff |
| 22:43.48 | kittyman | ah ok |
| 22:44.45 | sakang | and if it's in pkg.deb, you can install on your other boxes/devices as well |
| 22:45.49 | kittyman | yep! :) |
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| 22:54.47 | S4nD3r | hi there! |
| 22:54.58 | S4nD3r | I'd like to thank for help |
| 22:55.08 | S4nD3r | Now the video card is ok |
| 22:55.34 | S4nD3r | but I didn't get install nvidia |
| 22:55.37 | S4nD3r | http://paste.debian.net/95150/ |
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| 22:57.26 | S4nD3r | I installed bumblebee |
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| 23:00.24 | musca | S4nD3r: did you follow the wiki https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee ? |
| 23:01.08 | musca | keep in mind, bumblebee is for nouveau, bumblebee-nvidia is for nvidia-driver |
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| 23:21.34 | oldpentium1 | Jordan_U, i am running Debian 5.02 and whenever i try to mount my cdrom with the command mount /media/cdrom i get the error message: mount: No media found |
| 23:21.59 | oldpentium1 | my cdrom is detected at boot time (it is hdc) |
| 23:23.47 | civillian | oldpentium1: do you have a disc in the drive? |
| 23:25.28 | oldpentium1 | civillian, yes i do |
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| 23:25.55 | oldpentium1 | civillian, i tried 2 different discs and go the same result |
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| 23:30.43 | shape | Hi, I want to install debian stable and I have the netinstall.iso I used dd to make a usb, but when i boot from it it says isolinux missing or corrupt any ideas? |
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| 23:34.54 | likevinyl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etlcOJohqOM |
| 23:35.21 | Brigo | shape, try to download it again or copy it with dd again, it looks like the image is corrupted. |
| 23:35.39 | shape | Brigo: i even checked the md5 sum, but ok |
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| 23:36.39 | shape | I'll be right back |
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| 23:50.14 | shape | Who replied to me earlier here? Started with "B". Wanted to let him know that the .iso was fine and that it was me running "dd" wrongfully. I used /dev/sdb1 instead of just /dev/sdb |
| 23:50.20 | shape | It works now |
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| 23:59.44 | likevinyl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipkkdjGymCQ |
| 23:59.47 | likevinyl | ¬¬ |
