| 00:02.22 | modyn | how long time should it take for make bitcoind on linux debian 7? |
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| 00:05.40 | centrx | modyn, It really depends on your hardware. I think bitcoind compiles in a few minutes |
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| 00:06.22 | modyn | centrx i have been waited for CXX rpcserver.o for almost 1 hour |
| 00:07.41 | modyn | make[3]: Entering directory `/root/bitcoin/src' |
| 00:07.46 | modyn | CXX rcpserver.o |
| 00:07.54 | modyn | stucked there for a hour |
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| 00:11.57 | sergio-br2 | hard to find a sponsor there... |
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| 00:12.24 | lns | So I followed this: http://avedo.net/708/installing-debian-wheezy-with-cinnamon-desktop/ and got this: http://pastebin.com/pdAfQAan (I know it says 'Jesse', but when I installed Wheezy, the same thing happened) |
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| 00:15.09 | lns | The idea of installing cinnamon directly on Debian instead of, say, LMDE, because the previous installation of Mint mysteriously stopped working after a batch of updates, coincidentally involving packages relating to cinnamon becoming unavailable or broken. |
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| 00:18.25 | SynrG | Don't mix distros. Just don't. |
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| 00:18.43 | SynrG | ,v cinnamon |
| 00:18.44 | judd | Package: cinnamon on i386 -- sid: 1.7.4-2.2+b2 |
| 00:20.26 | SynrG | Unfortunately there are rc bugs preventing that from migrating to Jessie |
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| 00:25.02 | lns | SynrG, I know, i know..my wife just loves cinnamon though..she loves Debian too so I thought it would work given the many tuts online for doing so |
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| 00:39.00 | AlexLikeRock | help |
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| 00:39.47 | AlexLikeRock | i change my sites to new addres from change /var/www to /var/www/html |
| 00:39.58 | AlexLikeRock | nad not work |
| 00:40.03 | AlexLikeRock | and *** |
| 00:40.16 | AlexLikeRock | not work my virtual hosts |
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| 00:43.32 | HiDeHo | hi all i got a problem with internet |
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| 00:53.42 | Slimcea_Boy | is jessie the next upcoming release? |
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| 00:54.47 | LtL | Slimcea_Boy: yes |
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| 00:58.12 | Slimcea_Boy | thanks, LtL |
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| 00:59.25 | chrisirc | Hello. I've got a Debian server that just won't upgrade to kernel version 2.6.32-48squeeze5. apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade will not install it. |
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| 00:59.58 | chrisirc | It *does* print lines like: Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/main i386 Packages |
| 01:00.18 | chrisirc | so, I don't understand what's going on. Any suggestion? |
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| 01:08.18 | chrisirc | What is the URL that this sources-list line will access?: "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" |
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| 01:08.25 | average | hey, can I tell a joke ? |
| 01:08.25 | chrisirc | base URL |
| 01:08.32 | average | I have a good joke |
| 01:08.39 | chrisirc | I'm not in the mood for jokes |
| 01:09.06 | average | but it's a good joke |
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| 01:09.26 | chrisirc | I need to figure out which files apt fetches from http://security.debian.org/; what's the subdirectory it will access? |
| 01:09.49 | chrisirc | average, only if it's related to Debian somehow. |
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| 01:13.16 | average | so here's the joke |
| 01:13.18 | average | it's a shell joke |
| 01:13.19 | average | perl -e '`python -m subprocess -c "subprocess.call(\"perl -e \\"print \\\"\\\" \\" \");"`' |
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| 01:19.51 | kambei | average: You should do stand-up. |
| 01:20.26 | chrisirc | It is my understanding that someone should kick him/her from the channel. |
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| 01:20.45 | chrisirc | Or I don't get the joke there. |
| 01:20.54 | chrisirc | My guess: wasting everyone's time. |
| 01:21.07 | chrisirc | So, troll -> ban |
| 01:23.46 | average | chrisirc: you don't get the joke. |
| 01:23.53 | modyn | bitcoind: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by bitcoind) |
| 01:23.57 | modyn | how do i fix this? |
| 01:24.00 | chrisirc | average, So explain it please. |
| 01:24.13 | average | chrisirc: if you don't know, you don't deserve to know. |
| 01:24.20 | chrisirc | Then fuck yourself. |
| 01:24.38 | kambei | Now, children. Play nice. |
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| 01:24.54 | chrisirc | Someone kick him already, please. |
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| 01:25.29 | HiDeHo1 | hi all whats up i have a net install and having issues with xfce sometimes the graphics get messed up. i am now in the cli and need help with detecting and installing graphics |
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| 01:26.03 | zykotick9 | HiDeHo1: is this mint or debian? |
| 01:26.34 | kambei | HiDeHo1: You should probably specify the GPU and driver in your question. |
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| 01:27.23 | GrizzlyAdams | having trouble with installing debian, i'm getting GPG signature invalid on every mirror i try |
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| 01:29.02 | average | chrisirc: u mad bro ? |
| 01:29.12 | HiDeHo | anyone able to help |
| 01:29.28 | HiDeHo | zykotick9: why asking that |
| 01:29.36 | HiDeHo | its debian net install as i said ^ |
| 01:29.52 | average | anyway ttyl |
| 01:29.56 | zykotick9 | HiDeHo: 'cause your other nick that you're X-Posting this same question with is "mintyed1" |
| 01:30.03 | HiDeHo | linux mint has nothing to do with debian |
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| 01:30.23 | HiDeHo | ay |
| 01:30.37 | HiDeHo | no i am on 2 networks this is freenode |
| 01:30.50 | HiDeHo | and the other one is teh debian irc network |
| 01:31.31 | HiDeHo | so its not cross posting 2 different networks |
| 01:31.36 | somiaj | HiDeHo: lets isolate what you mean by 'the graphics get messed up', is it something to do with your graphics drivers and xorg not being able to load, or is it something else? |
| 01:31.38 | HiDeHo | anyway can you help |
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| 01:32.14 | HiDeHo | i dont know the screen goes all blinky sometimes scrolling desktop its weird and usually graphics card related |
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| 01:32.30 | somiaj | HiDeHo: yes debian's irc network is oftc.net, so you are posting on two different networks. Idea is try one wait a while and so two people aren't trying to help you. |
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| 01:32.47 | somiaj | HiDeHo: what graphics card and drivers do you use? |
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| 01:32.49 | HiDeHo | so as i said i need to detect the graphics card and then install the correct drivers |
| 01:33.05 | HiDeHo | its a fresh install not sure what card and drivers it has |
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| 01:33.27 | HiDeHo | cant use xfce so cant find out graphics card. i dont know cli that well |
| 01:33.41 | zykotick9 | HiDeHo: "lspci | grep -i vga" should show the card details |
| 01:33.45 | somiaj | HiDeHo: lspci will list all your pci devices, look for teh vga or graphics card one |
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| 01:34.46 | HiDeHo | says its an unclassified device |
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| 01:35.28 | somiaj | HiDeHo: do you know what graphics card is supose to be in the machine, or have specs for that machine? |
| 01:35.43 | HiDeHo | non-vga unclassified device: device 2300:0000 (rev 08) |
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| 01:36.14 | somiaj | yea it seems like it might have failry new hardawre, so again do you know any hardware or were to find the hardware specs on that machien? What computer is it? |
| 01:36.28 | HiDeHo | its a oboard graphics there is no graphics card slot i would need to find a pci graphics card |
| 01:36.31 | dvs | not even an pci id? |
| 01:36.49 | HiDeHo | somiaj: new hardware lol thats a joke |
| 01:37.37 | HiDeHo | its an old xp box prob pentium 4 |
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| 01:38.04 | HiDeHo | its not got a pci graphics card. it is usint the built in botherboard card atm |
| 01:38.06 | HiDeHo | shesh |
| 01:38.16 | somiaj | HiDeHo: is it an old dell/hp? Did you look at the full output of lspci, how about you put the output of lspci at paste.debian.net, you can use the program pastebinit to do that |
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| 01:38.36 | somiaj | HiDeHo: the built in graphics card is most likely on the pci bus, it should be in that list |
| 01:38.49 | HiDeHo | somiaj: you mean everything not just graphics |
| 01:39.15 | average | kambei: I would do stand-up, but I need to learn how to handle hecklers.. |
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| 01:39.29 | somiaj | HiDeHo: correct I want to see the full output |
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| 01:39.49 | kambei | average: You /ignore them? |
| 01:39.51 | somiaj | HiDeHo: actually better yet give me the output of 'lspci -vvv' so I can get the pciid of the card |
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| 01:40.44 | average | kambei: no, you need to destroy while on stage. at least that's what I saw other comedians do |
| 01:40.56 | average | destroy the hecklers that is |
| 01:41.04 | HiDeHo | this chat is on my other computer ant post the output to you as i cant get in to xfce on the debian os desktop to run terminal and xchat etc |
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| 01:41.07 | HiDeHo | sorry |
| 01:41.08 | somiaj | how is stand-up a debian support question? *points to #debian-offtopic* |
| 01:41.20 | average | somiaj: sorry mr. policeman |
| 01:41.26 | average | heads to #debian-offtopic |
| 01:41.27 | HiDeHo | ay |
| 01:41.32 | HiDeHo | what can i do now |
| 01:41.38 | average | crossed the street off the side-walk |
| 01:41.40 | somiaj | average: its fine, we just try to keep this channel on topic |
| 01:41.50 | HiDeHo | and |
| 01:42.33 | somiaj | HiDeHo: well unless you can figure out some useful info about the graphics card you have in that machine we can't be of much help. The graphics card info should be in lspci. And are you sure teh hardware isn't bad on teh graphics card causing the issues you ran into? |
| 01:42.46 | HiDeHo | i have you all the putput said |
| 01:42.52 | HiDeHo | *output |
| 01:43.01 | HiDeHo | unclassified |
| 01:43.10 | HiDeHo | hold on chall i boot to bios for a sec |
| 01:43.51 | kambei | HiDeHo: Can you physically identify any helpful markings on the graphics card itself? |
| 01:43.58 | kambei | Did someone already ask that? |
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| 01:45.50 | HiDeHo | kambei: its an onboard graphics not a card |
| 01:46.04 | kambei | HiDeHo: Okay. |
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| 01:46.42 | kambei | HiDeHo: Do you know the board make and model? That might help to identify the possible integrated GPU. |
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| 01:47.22 | HiDeHo | arg now i get an error even trying to access the xfce gui |
| 01:47.55 | HiDeHo | error in licking authority file /home/mintyed/.xauthority |
| 01:48.04 | HiDeHo | * locking |
| 01:48.11 | HiDeHo | man this cli is hard |
| 01:48.30 | average | there are soft ones too |
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| 01:48.54 | HiDeHo | kambei: not atm |
| 01:49.03 | HiDeHo | would need to take the computer appart to see |
| 01:49.22 | HiDeHo | thanks all i will do some more research and come back later i think |
| 01:49.28 | HiDeHo | you got me thinking |
| 01:49.37 | dvs | HiDeHo: No ID in the BIOS? |
| 01:49.41 | HiDeHo | when i have the more info i can come back with it |
| 01:49.46 | HiDeHo | hold on |
| 01:49.56 | dvs | System Information? |
| 01:50.13 | HiDeHo | dvs: cant get to gui xfce |
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| 01:50.24 | dorito125 | HiDeHo: Do you have ssh access to machine from the machine your using irc on? Or perhaps a thumbdrive you can grab the output of `lspci -vvv` and paste it? |
| 01:50.27 | HiDeHo | hold on |
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| 01:51.50 | acu | OK, so I got two virtual machines completely hacked, there are some files in /boot Iptables and .IptabLes and IpabLex .Iptablex the hidden ones are 1 Mb |
| 01:52.04 | HiDeHo | ok its a pentium 4 256 mb 512mb ram |
| 01:52.20 | dorito125 | Does anyone know a good channel for web app dev? I have a question regarding design with a database schema. |
| 01:52.21 | HiDeHo | no i dont i am trying to set this debian server up atm and having problems so i cant do that yet |
| 01:52.24 | acu | I need to make this public, most probably there some other ones |
| 01:53.35 | acu | there are some scripts could not read it properly with nano but among others I have seen same TLs things and DNS etc |
| 01:53.36 | HiDeHo | and this computer has 504mb ram for system and rest is assigned to graphics etc |
| 01:53.55 | HiDeHo | i will come back later ok |
| 01:54.13 | HiDeHo | tanks for helping |
| 01:54.20 | acu | I wonder, the backports have also security updates ? |
| 01:54.54 | acu | anyhow, this machines have no backports, just straight main |
| 01:56.19 | acu | can anyone tell me if is normal to have a a file .rnd in /root ? |
| 01:57.14 | cast | acu: that may be a openssl PRNG seed file |
| 01:58.21 | cast | acu: only just joined so am lacking much of a buffer, what are you trying to do? |
| 01:58.45 | average | cast: he said he has 2 hacked VMs |
| 01:58.53 | acu | cast: two of virtual machines got hacked, I am trying to know what exactly is wrong |
| 01:58.57 | average | presumably he wants to study them to find out how they got hacked? |
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| 01:59.13 | acu | that is one, and what exactly was run out of the machines, |
| 01:59.29 | ProfessorBacon | as soon as you're born you start dying. |
| 01:59.31 | acu | I could see potentially what where they used for etc |
| 01:59.31 | average | acu: was this intentional? IOW were those 2 VMs honepots ? |
| 01:59.35 | average | *honeypots |
| 02:00.19 | acu | average no |
| 02:00.39 | average | I can outline a plan for you. But since I'm not an expert I might be completely off |
| 02:00.43 | average | make a new VM |
| 02:00.45 | average | set up auditd on it |
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| 02:00.51 | HiDeHo | how to run fsck from cli i get this error /dev/sda1 is mounted e2fsck: cannot continue aborting |
| 02:00.53 | average | and set up iptables netfiletrs logging |
| 02:00.54 | acu | I got the scripts injected through a script initially placed in /root/n26 |
| 02:01.14 | average | acu: then transfer compromised binaries from the hacked VMs to the new one and get it hacked too |
| 02:01.25 | buu | HiDeHo: Try unmounting it |
| 02:01.30 | average | and then you get a chance to have proper logging turned on, and you'll be able to see what's happening |
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| 02:01.36 | acu | then some scripts are in the /boot two files - as I said two where hidden . |
| 02:01.38 | HiDeHo | it says device is busy |
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| 02:01.53 | HiDeHo | hold on |
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| 02:02.26 | acu | average: yes I turn on ntop, I got some weird sudden 5 GB trafic in very little time, but I still do not know exactly what that trafic did |
| 02:02.45 | average | acu: tcpdump it and analyze it |
| 02:02.54 | acu | I shut the vms down, remove the ethernet and I am looking at the files "in situ" to figure out |
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| 02:04.37 | acu | I am trying to figure out whether was OpenSSL or something else which favored that |
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| 02:05.07 | average | acu: I'm not sure if you can find that out if you didn't have proper logging in place before the intrusion happened |
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| 02:05.52 | acu | average: I could beef properly the logging - then turn them on :) |
| 02:06.11 | average | yeah but it may be too late.. but you can try |
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| 02:07.36 | acu | but I can look at those two files at boot .IptabLex and IptabLes, I can sparsely read some of the things, how can I figure out with what they were compiled ? |
| 02:08.29 | average | acu: ldd |
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| 02:08.43 | average | acu: maybe nm if they have debug symbols although I doubt it |
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| 02:09.58 | average | acu: what you really want to do probably is package up those binaries and send them to clamav . those guys probably do this sort of thing every day |
| 02:12.23 | acu | average good suggestion |
| 02:13.51 | acu | average: do you have any suggestions for monitoring tools |
| 02:14.38 | acu | I am running ntop, is preety good, and think I have to put wireshark |
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| 02:15.50 | average | acu: iptables with filters for logging, tcpdump, auditd |
| 02:15.57 | average | there are a lot more than just those |
| 02:16.03 | average | I've had a problem like that recently |
| 02:16.08 | average | it's a huuuge timesink |
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| 02:20.46 | acu | indeed, it sucks big time |
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| 02:21.29 | acu | I have only two machines, with these, I just updated lately a bunch of them - they all used OpenSSL, but I have to admit I did not reissue new keys |
| 02:21.32 | acu | or generate |
| 02:21.54 | acu | however .rnd it is OK there then |
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| 02:33.16 | ayaskanti | Hi, I am having hardship installing debian on macbook pro . I was unable to boot it from installation Wheezy DVD. But I am able to boot it(live) from rEFIT loader . But when I set "linux /install/gtk/vmlinuz ", it cannot render installation menu to the screen .. help |
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| 02:35.42 | confused-igb | hello |
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| 02:36.08 | confused-igb | has anyone successfully installed debian 7 amd64 on a system that has intel i210 nics? |
| 02:36.23 | confused-igb | i am having trouble installing debian, it is not recognizing my network card |
| 02:37.02 | confused-igb | i have the .tar.gz for the nic driver (source) |
| 02:37.14 | confused-igb | however no .deb package exists to my knowledge |
| 02:37.28 | confused-igb | so i am not sure how to install debian successfully |
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| 02:38.05 | confused-igb | the .tar.gz in question is the intel igb 5.2.5 driver |
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| 02:38.10 | confused-igb | the nic is the intel i210 |
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| 02:46.26 | k_sze[work] | How do I find what process is writing to a particular volume? |
| 02:46.43 | k_sze[work] | or a particular directory, for that matter. |
| 02:47.44 | somiaj | k_sze[work]: lsof will list all open files and which process opeend them |
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| 02:54.08 | k_sze[work] | lsof doesn't seem to really help. It lists the open file handles, but it doesn't tell me which one is getting written to. |
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| 02:55.08 | ayaskanti | how do I see the reply of my message here while I do reboot my pc ? |
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| 02:56.54 | somiaj | ayaskanti: a good amount will be in the output of 'dmesg' or /var/log/messages |
| 02:57.14 | somiaj | ayaskanti: not all the boot stuff will be there, may hae to look through some other logs if you are looking for somthing in paticular |
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| 02:59.04 | ayaskanti | somiaj: thank you for reply .. I wish I had the dmsg command in this #debian channel |
| 02:59.47 | ayaskanti | somiaj: I am going down .. off internet .. into darkness .. brb |
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| 03:06.57 | zenlunatic | confused-igb: did you try building it on a 7 install? |
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| 03:14.22 | acu | confused-igb, there are few things you can try: use the debian cd installation with non-free firmware built in |
| 03:14.36 | zenlunatic | yeah that would probably be easiest |
| 03:15.58 | acu | confused-igb, sometimes there are quircky settings in bios, I am not saying this is the case, but I remember having some heck of the time before and it was some setting in bios, but for sure I do not think you need to engineer a lot of things to make the intel card work, usually they are the easiest to install |
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| 03:17.15 | acu | anyhow, I am mulling about this hacks with injected scripts etc in debian wheezy with kolab, I do not know how they got nicely in |
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| 03:43.43 | wakd_ | k_sze[work], lsof and iotop |
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| 03:44.30 | k_sze[work] | wakd_: yes, I used iotop, and I could only *guess* which process it was because iotop doesn't actually show the path that the processes were writing to. |
| 03:45.22 | wakd_ | k_sze[work], lsof will give you some process id's, watch those with iotop |
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| 03:52.22 | purpleidea | hey there... can someone run: facter -p | grep -i oper and paste the output for me please? |
| 03:52.50 | purpleidea | (i'm porting some code to debian, but i don't have any vm's anywhere at the moment :( |
| 03:53.36 | afsal | is there any library function usageErr() ?? |
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| 04:25.47 | ske1 | I can't find a guide to creating my own backports. |
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| 04:36.54 | Amema | Anyone using Debian on desktop for gaming? How does it stack up against other distros? |
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| 04:42.17 | comradekingu | Amema: Works great |
| 04:44.37 | kambei | Amema: I don't imagine there would be much difference between distros. |
| 04:45.06 | kambei | But, yes, Debian works quite well. |
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| 04:47.05 | Amema | I was just wondering about the age of libraries and what not, if that would impact performance of steam |
| 04:47.18 | Amema | I know a decent amount about linux but not much about the workings of desktops and graphics libraries and such |
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| 04:49.47 | Amema | good to hear it works well though :) |
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| 04:53.12 | kambei | Amema: The greater concern would be the GPU, and how well it is supported. |
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| 04:55.47 | kambei | Either by the manufacturer under Linux, or by open sourced drivers. |
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| 04:59.11 | Amema | Well in my experience under Mint and Ubuntu its been "okay". It's an nVidia GTX 760. Nouveau drivers work for day to day use but are atrocious for gaming. Prorietary drivers work better but anything newer than version 319 always broke the system on reboot. |
| 04:59.29 | Amema | Then apparently there were some weird issues with compositing but by that point I grew frustrated and gave up for the time being. |
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| 05:01.57 | kambei | That has been an ongoing dilemma for well over a decade. |
| 05:02.54 | kambei | But for all of their shortcomings, Nvidia was at least supporting Linux when none of their competitors were doing so. |
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| 05:05.45 | kambei | Even if it is/was with a closed source implementation. |
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| 05:26.47 | cesurasean1 | how do i alter login on my ssh to be a pem key instead of text password? is this easy to do? |
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| 05:28.58 | kambei | cesurasean1: .authorized_keys? |
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| 05:29.44 | RayzrShrp | can somebody help me with setting my hostname and dns? |
| 05:29.50 | kambei | cesurasean1: Or do you want to forbid passwords system-wide? |
| 05:30.14 | RayzrShrp | im running debian wheezy on a digital ocean VPS and not sure what to set my systems hostname to |
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| 05:31.24 | cesurasean1 | i wanted something like this; http://www.curvve.com/blog/guides/2013/how-to-create-multiple-amazon-ec2-keypair-logins-for-contractors-and-employees/ |
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| 05:31.56 | ayaskanti | why does debian installation get stuck on language selection screen for macbook pro 8,1 |
| 05:32.08 | somiaj | ayaskanti: how are you trying to boot? |
| 05:32.12 | kambei | cesurasean1: Doesn't that pretty much explain how to do it? |
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| 05:32.28 | somiaj | ayaskanti: I mean how did you make the install media, is it usb? cdrom? |
| 05:34.26 | ayaskanti | somiaj: I was using usb disk , I managed to start live disk successfully from usb disk .. now I want to install it totally .. |
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| 05:36.33 | cesurasean1 | kambei, no, it leaves how out how to convert .pub into .pem. |
| 05:36.48 | somiaj | ayaskanti: how did you make the usb stick from the debian iso image? |
| 05:37.13 | cesurasean1 | then i found this command; ssh-keygen -f root.pub -e -m pem |
| 05:37.25 | cesurasean1 | but it doesn't work. |
| 05:37.26 | somiaj | ayaskanti: oh so you are using a live .iso from live.debian.net |
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| 05:37.36 | ayaskanti | somiaj: I installed rEFIt , so I did linux /install/gtk/vmlinuz video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 -- quiet |
| 05:37.51 | ayaskanti | somiaj: I downloaded iso from live.debian.net |
| 05:38.10 | ayaskanti | somiaj: the usb stick contains that iso file |
| 05:38.27 | ayaskanti | somiaj: and I used loopback to load that from grub |
| 05:39.13 | ayaskanti | somiaj: it worked ! and unfortunately it got stuck in the language selection screen .. It seems the keyboard and mouse is not working there !! |
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| 05:39.23 | somiaj | ayaskanti: the actual debian installer isos (not live images) already have uefi boot set up, you just need to use a direct write (like copy) to put the image directly on the usb drive. |
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| 05:39.47 | ayaskanti | somiaj: I did that too |
| 05:39.52 | ayaskanti | somiaj: with the same result |
| 05:40.17 | ayaskanti | somiaj: linux (loop)/install/gtk/vmlinuz video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 iso-scan/filename=$isofile |
| 05:40.34 | ayaskanti | somiaj: and I copied that contents and loaded the installer like, |
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| 05:40.37 | somiaj | ayaskanti: again how did you make the usb iamge, it sounds like you are using some tool |
| 05:40.46 | RayzrShrp | can someone help me with my hosname |
| 05:40.58 | ayaskanti | somiaj: linux /install/gtk/vmlinuz video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 |
| 05:41.21 | somiaj | ayaskanti: what you need to do is 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdb' assuming that /dev/sdb is your usb stick. the images sometimes do not work the best when tried to boot, again I think that is your issue |
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| 05:41.45 | ayaskanti | somiaj: OK , I shall do dd |
| 05:41.49 | mingtsay | hey guys! this is my first time join this channel. greeting~~ |
| 05:42.03 | joep | I just set up a linode debian server and i'm having a problem getting sudo to wrok. It keeps telling me my non-root user is not in the sudoers file |
| 05:42.25 | somiaj | ayaskanti: cp works just fine, actually will be faster |
| 05:42.34 | mingtsay | joep: try 'su -' and enter your root password |
| 05:42.35 | RayzrShrp | joep: you need to login as root and add your normal account to sudoers |
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| 05:43.07 | joep | RayzrShrp, I thought I did that.. maybe I'm doing it wrong? |
| 05:43.30 | joep | is it just "adduser whatever usdo" |
| 05:43.33 | joep | except without typos |
| 05:43.47 | joep | when I do that is says my user is already a member of sudo |
| 05:43.49 | RayzrShrp | as root do visudo |
| 05:44.13 | RayzrShrp | find where root is in the file and copy that but change where it says root to your username |
| 05:44.20 | mingtsay | joep: checkout if sudo in `/etc/group` has your account and /etc/sudoers has group sudo |
| 05:44.36 | RayzrShrp | joep: dont bother with all that |
| 05:44.52 | RayzrShrp | if its just debian on linode you just need to add yourself to the sudoers file |
| 05:45.17 | joep | and by that you mean run visudo? |
| 05:45.32 | joep | I'm trying to do that... i'm used to vim and this is definitely not vim |
| 05:45.39 | RayzrShrp | its using nano by default |
| 05:45.41 | joep | visudo opens in nano for some stupid reason?! |
| 05:45.51 | RayzrShrp | you can change that with the alternatives system |
| 05:45.54 | joep | even though the name "vi" is in the damn name? haha |
| 05:46.27 | RayzrShrp | hell you can just do sudo vi /etc/sudoers |
| 05:46.33 | RayzrShrp | if you want |
| 05:46.40 | ayaskanti | somiaj: thanks for help .. I shall fall into darkness in a minute .. |
| 05:46.43 | RayzrShrp | it wont break anything even though it says not to |
| 05:47.07 | joep | fixed! |
| 05:47.15 | somiaj | ayaskanti: hopefully that is your issue, I haven't tried an install on a mac hardware. (: |
| 05:47.16 | joep | thanks |
| 05:47.26 | RayzrShrp | you're welcome |
| 05:47.38 | RayzrShrp | now i just need to figure out my hostname/dns issue here |
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| 05:49.12 | ayaskanti | somiaj: I hope everything will work out of box |
| 05:49.45 | mingtsay | I want to setup an archive mirror but in this page (/mirror/ftpmirror) I only see this file (ftpsync.tar.gz) |
| 05:50.14 | somiaj | ayaskanti: I just know the debian install images just sometimes dont work write if additional tools are used to make them bootable. |
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| 05:50.32 | mingtsay | Is it correct that I only need is to download this file and run it? |
| 05:51.21 | ayaskanti | somiaj: That is important clue for me |
| 05:51.39 | acu | hello guys - so it is clear there are some China originated nasty scripts injected, I have few Debian Wheezy and Kolab vms all with the same problem, there are files in /boot and in /root/ |
| 05:51.50 | acu | and it seem that there are some chrons setup |
| 05:52.08 | acu | I got the scripts injected through a script initially placed in /root/n26 |
| 05:52.39 | acu | two files at boot .IptabLex and IptabLes, |
| 05:53.14 | mingtsay | acu: is it harmful ? |
| 05:53.21 | somiaj | mingtsay: http://kaivanov.blogspot.com/2013/11/creating-official-debian-mirror-with.html -- happen to run across this a bity earler |
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| 05:53.33 | acu | yes, they halt the whole network |
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| 05:53.36 | mingtsay | somiaj: thx |
| 05:53.37 | acu | they are nasty |
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| 05:54.11 | acu | and I do not think I can get rid of them, because they are in .hidden files and there is no way to know |
| 05:54.34 | acu | Is debian 7.5 comming soon ? |
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| 05:55.56 | mingtsay | acu: /msg dpkg 7.5 |
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| 05:59.34 | RayzrShrp | i own the domain subnetninja.com but not sure what to set my hostname on my debian host to |
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| 06:02.07 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: what do you want to do? |
| 06:02.53 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: i need to know what to name my linux box to correctly use my domain |
| 06:03.15 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: your domain is set to ns1~ns3.digitalocean.com |
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| 06:03.32 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: yep its a vps |
| 06:03.49 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: godaddy is pointing at their dns servers |
| 06:04.16 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: so subetninja.com resolves to my public ip for my linux box at DO |
| 06:04.36 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: but what should the hostname on my linux box be? |
| 06:04.41 | somiaj | RayzrShrp: you can name your box anything you like, the name you choose isn't that important as what the dns says to point at your ip and what you set your servers upt o listen for |
| 06:04.44 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: actually you may use any name you want |
| 06:05.02 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: it is no different you use any name |
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| 06:05.20 | RayzrShrp | so i want to name my box shogun |
| 06:05.32 | RayzrShrp | would i name it shogun.subnetninja.com |
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| 06:05.55 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: then create an a record for just shogun |
| 06:06.09 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: or should the a record point to shogun.subnetninja.com |
| 06:06.11 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: there is no need to sync between DNS and computer name but you can do so |
| 06:06.40 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: so then on linux box for hostname i dont even need my domain in there? |
| 06:06.49 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: you can add 'shogun IN A 123.45.67.89' in zone 'zhogun.subnet.ninja.com' |
| 06:07.20 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: or use full name 'shogun.subnetninja.com. IN A 123.45.67.89' in your zone |
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| 06:07.28 | RayzrShrp | i can ping subnetninja.com |
| 06:07.39 | RayzrShrp | but shogun.subnetninja.com does not respond |
| 06:07.42 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: notice the end of the full name should be a dot '.' |
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| 06:08.19 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: 169.243.39.64 is it correct ip? |
| 06:08.23 | RayzrShrp | yes |
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| 06:08.52 | mingtsay | p_quarles: it is possible that 169.243.39.64 don't reply ping packets |
| 06:09.03 | mingtsay | oops tag wrong name… |
| 06:09.11 | p_quarles | it's always possible :) |
| 06:09.11 | RayzrShrp | i can ping that ip i believe |
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| 06:09.32 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: you may try |
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| 06:09.46 | RayzrShrp | wait ip is 162 not 169 |
| 06:09.57 | RayzrShrp | where did you get the 169 ip from |
| 06:09.59 | mingtsay | maybe it just a typo |
| 06:10.07 | mingtsay | in your DNS record |
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| 06:10.17 | RayzrShrp | shit it is i see it now clear as day lol |
| 06:10.58 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: it's alright |
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| 06:11.24 | RayzrShrp | so in my /etc/hosts do i even need to add my hostname or will dns handle that for me |
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| 06:11.52 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: also so if my /etc/hostname is just shogun that is fine and everything should work fine |
| 06:13.42 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: DNS will tell everyone the hostname, if you change /etc/hostname and nothing will happen |
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| 06:14.39 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: so really i dont even need an a record since the @ makes subnetninja.com appear as a host |
| 06:15.49 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: but if you are at home using local network, /etc/hostname is that the name other devices discovered |
| 06:15.49 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: we call it smb or samba |
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| 06:16.04 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: also you can see hostname when you using bash (ssh) |
| 06:16.23 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: yes |
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| 06:17.44 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: ok so im just gonna make my host name shogun, then my dns will point to subnetninja.com |
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| 06:17.55 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: fine |
| 06:18.11 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: i guess if i had multiple ips then i would need differnt hosts specified |
| 06:18.33 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: like shogun.subnetninja.com and ninja.subnetninja.com and stuff |
| 06:18.56 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: if you want clients chose which ip they want to connect |
| 06:19.04 | mingtsay | you can add multiple A Record |
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| 06:19.25 | mingtsay | and the clients will choose one of them |
| 06:19.31 | mingtsay | or just use the first one |
| 06:19.45 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: yeah i only have 1 ip |
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| 06:19.58 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: so i man it can only go to my vps ip |
| 06:20.20 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: i guess the a record could point to another ip DO didn't provide |
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| 06:20.33 | PaulePanter | Hi. Using Debian Sid/unstable with i386 architecture Chromium is still at version 33.x, while for amd64 it is at version 34.x already. |
| 06:20.41 | PaulePanter | How can I find out the reasons for that. |
| 06:20.48 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: even to my server, lol |
| 06:21.04 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: lol yep ok i think i understand it now |
| 06:21.26 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: so would it be best to make my revese just subnetninja.com or shogun.subnetninja.com |
| 06:21.27 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: and you can also add AAAA Record if you have IPv6 |
| 06:21.45 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: guess it doesnt matter again since i only have one host |
| 06:22.21 | jelly-home | PaulePanter: it's sid, there do not have to be reasons for a buildd being delayed |
| 06:22.27 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: is the @ the same thing as a dns wildcard or is that something different |
| 06:22.33 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: you can keep both and can also add www.subnetninja.com |
| 06:22.48 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: which will just point to the same ip right |
| 06:22.51 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: in fact, @ means subnetninja.com |
| 06:23.12 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: yeah you are right |
| 06:23.20 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: so the www would be an A record |
| 06:23.24 | jelly-home | ,v chromium |
| 06:23.25 | judd | Package: chromium on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; wheezy: 31.0.1650.63-1~deb7u1; jessie: 33.0.1750.152-1; sid: 33.0.1750.152-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 34.0.1847.116-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 34.0.1847.116-1~deb7u1 |
| 06:23.53 | jelly-home | PaulePanter: wheezy (current stable release) has 34 and that's what's important |
| 06:24.15 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: yes, if you just enter www / shogun / @ it means www.subnetninja.com / shogun.subnetninja.com / subnetninja.com |
| 06:24.43 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: it will automatic append $ORIGIN (which is the zone name) |
| 06:24.50 | acu | hey guys -for a virtual machine does it make sense to have /boot ? as XFS then / XFS and Swap, or I should forgo the /boot partition |
| 06:25.10 | acu | I know it does not need it, it boots from XFS but from strategy point of view I am interested |
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| 06:25.22 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: cool |
| 06:25.30 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: thanks man |
| 06:25.39 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: dns confuses me sometimes |
| 06:25.43 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: it's okay |
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| 06:26.37 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: yesterday i just cannot connect to my school's server |
| 06:26.58 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: and i find out that no dns record response |
| 06:27.06 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: lol |
| 06:27.24 | sandman13 | I have to connect my laptop to a project for some presentation and I am wondering whether the screen will be shared or not |
| 06:27.24 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: i finally find out the problem is MX |
| 06:27.29 | jelly-home | PaulePanter: it's likely the amd64 binary build was done and uploaded by the maintainer. Other architectures will get it from the build infrastructure. |
| 06:27.47 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: MX cannot set a host that is CNAME, you need to set real ip |
| 06:28.05 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: aka A record |
| 06:28.30 | Blue1 | dns puts me in a real bind. |
| 06:29.46 | mingtsay | Blue1: do you know A6 record? I haven't understand yet |
| 06:29.56 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: yeah i remember that part |
| 06:30.04 | jelly-home | PaulePanter: read /msg dpkg buildd, and look up the state of chromium-browser on their pages |
| 06:30.18 | Blue1 | I haven't done dns in a long time - I ave never played with a6 records - sorry. |
| 06:30.40 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: so right now pinging subnetninja.com is showing a reponse from shogun.subnetninja.com, where is it getting that from? |
| 06:30.40 | Blue1 | last time I played with dns was when dns 8 was fashionable |
| 06:30.48 | Blue1 | well bind 8 |
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| 06:31.27 | mingtsay | Blue1: first time i played with is bind9 lol |
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| 06:32.15 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: Reverse DNS Lookup |
| 06:32.21 | Blue1 | i have the book dns and bind - but I haven't done anything with it since like 2001 |
| 06:33.02 | PaulePanter | jelly-home: Thank you. https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=chromium-browser |
| 06:33.06 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: ok so i changed that to just subnetninja.com |
| 06:33.08 | mingtsay | Blue1: the book i have is … Google.com lol |
| 06:33.12 | PaulePanter | jelly-home: THere are build errors. |
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| 06:33.26 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: so when dns updates it wont show the hosname in there |
| 06:33.27 | Blue1 | oh I have the book |
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| 06:34.07 | acu | mingtsay, I did not follow quite close what are you talking, but the virus I am talking about originating from china has fake dns redirecitons etc |
| 06:34.39 | AtuM | I'm having problems using preseed. I can't seem to set the language to english and the keyboard to something else.. is there a howto with explained options available? |
| 06:34.54 | jelly-home | PaulePanter: I think those get reported back to maintainers, so they ought to be aware. |
| 06:34.55 | acu | mingtsay, you setup the dns server, or suddenly you could not connect ? because that maybe the cause |
| 06:34.56 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: if you want to change it , you have to own the zone "64.39.243.162.in-addr.arpa" |
| 06:35.51 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: i do, part of the VPS hosting options |
| 06:36.09 | mingtsay | acu: bind9 skipped my zone because there is an error in the db.zonename |
| 06:36.24 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: they have the refresh set to 3600 which is annoying |
| 06:36.36 | mingtsay | acu: after fixing the error and it is okay |
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| 06:37.00 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: err the ttl is 1800 which is 30 mins before changes show up |
| 06:37.58 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: my ISP's DNS Server won't cache, so I can test innotime |
| 06:38.17 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: 168.95.1.1 and 168.95.192.1 |
| 06:38.53 | mingtsay | omg, apt-mirror said: 232.1 GiB will be downloaded into archive. |
| 06:39.40 | nkuttler | mingtsay: it's not more? i'm surprised |
| 06:39.49 | RayzrShrp | mingtsay: what could i do with their dns servers? |
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| 06:40.28 | mingtsay | RayzrShrp: nothing but wait for cache expired … |
| 06:40.47 | mingtsay | nkuttler: it's about half of my HDD |
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| 06:45.31 | mingtsay | somiaj: do I really need ftpsync or it is okay for only apt-mirror |
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| 06:59.39 | nag | peterrooney: it would help to include your distribution (stable, testing, etc.) |
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| 07:04.55 | jelly-home | ^^ likely malware |
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| 07:10.32 | gour | morning |
| 07:10.47 | peterrooney | nag: stable |
| 07:11.17 | voxadam | How do ensure that a cifs share that is mounted at boot via fstab is mounted such that it and all files and subdirectories are 0774? |
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| 07:38.49 | shur | http://paste.frubar.net/16054 |
| 07:39.26 | shur | Debian GNU/Linux 7.4 (wheezy) |
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| 07:43.07 | bezaban | shur: install gcc-doc |
| 07:44.11 | shur | That spat 'No candidate version found for gcc-doc'. |
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| 07:45.06 | bezaban | ,v gcc-doc |
| 07:45.07 | judd | Package: gcc-doc on i386 -- squeeze/contrib: 5:3; wheezy/contrib: 5:4; jessie/contrib: 5:4.8.2-2; sid/contrib: 5:4.8.2-2 |
| 07:45.13 | shur | Ah, but i just have the 'main' repo. I probably need to activate contrib for this. |
| 07:45.19 | bezaban | yeah :) |
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| 07:45.40 | bezaban | I find it odd that it's not bundled with gcc too, but that'll make it work at least |
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| 07:47.07 | shur | What was contrib for, by the way? |
| 07:48.06 | shur | Meant to be. |
| 07:48.35 | somiaj | shur: contrib is stuff that is free but may depend or require non-free material |
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| 07:48.45 | keezi | # sshfs root@9.9.9.9:/etc/ /root/remote returns me: read: Connection reset by peer. I using Debian 7, try to connect DEbian Squeeze |
| 07:48.48 | bezaban | apparently it's for packages that have dependencies not in main - not entirely sure why gcc-doc is there. Possibly the gcc-doc package is a meta package and some of it's items have a license which puts it in non-free |
| 07:49.31 | somiaj | shur: example, flashplugin-nonfree is contrib. Because it is a set of scripts, the scripts themselves are dfsg free, but the scrips then connect to adobe's servers and install non-free material on your system. So in essense it isn't non-free but it isn't main either. |
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| 07:50.12 | bezaban | keezi: can you ssh in as root with ssh root@box? |
| 07:50.24 | keezi | yes |
| 07:51.09 | Blue1 | you should never ever ssh as root - but that is my 2 cents |
| 07:51.25 | jelly-home | Blue1: that's a policy decision. |
| 07:51.32 | shur | Thanks. |
| 07:51.36 | somiaj | bezaban: I do recall hearing something about why some of gcc docs are non-free but yes it is there because it depends on non-free, " This documentation is licensed under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, and contains invariant sections, so it can't be part of Debian main." but the meta package actually has no on-fre compoent. |
| 07:51.41 | Blue1 | jelly-home: indeed |
| 07:51.44 | keezi | rm /root/.ssh/known_hosts _solves_ it |
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| 07:52.10 | bezaban | somiaj: thanks :) |
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| 07:52.16 | keezi | Blue1: you say truth, but I just a silly homeuser, so... :) |
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| 07:52.31 | Blue1 | :-) |
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| 07:52.58 | mingtsay | somiaj: do I really need ftpsync or it is okay for only apt-mirror |
| 07:53.02 | Blue1 | I have worked with computers for 48 years -- I am semi security conscious |
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| 07:53.33 | keezi | Blue1: wow! you are unreliable cool! |
| 07:53.45 | somiaj | mingtsay: I have never used either, it appears that apt-mirror should od everything you need. |
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| 07:54.38 | lintguy1 | I'm struggling with making a user not require password when sudoing, i have set this in sudoers: user ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 07:54.44 | lintguy1 | with the proper user name of course |
| 07:54.46 | mingtsay | somiaj: and I see this in my Terminal: 232.1 GiB will be downloaded into archive. |
| 07:54.48 | lintguy1 | but it still asks for password |
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| 07:55.28 | somiaj | mingtsay: I would make sure you have it configured to only mirror the parts you want. Did you disable mirroring the source packages, deb-src lines, that could save some space |
| 07:55.38 | jelly-home | lintguy1: read about NOPASSWD in sudoers manual |
| 07:55.38 | shur | Aptitude keeps not installing it. Shows gcc-doc depends on gcc-4.7-doc for which I have no candidate. So I will be temporarily activating non-free too. |
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| 07:55.47 | somiaj | mingtsay: do you want a full mirror or just a cache of the packages you use a lot? |
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| 07:56.00 | acu | hey guys do you know of any application or script which gets a qcow2 virtual machinel img and clones it, then moves the clone to other place ? |
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| 07:56.22 | somiaj | shur: yes things in contrib requires some non-free component, in this case it actually is just a meta package to install the correct non-free docs for gcc |
| 07:56.24 | lintguy1 | jelly-home: thanks for the direction! |
| 07:56.31 | somiaj | shur: again they are non-free due to invariant subsections in them |
| 07:57.16 | mingtsay | somiaj: like other mirrors, I want to host a mirror for /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:58.10 | somiaj | mingtsay: going to mirror all arches and release, or just a paticular one? Again you have lots of choices here, mirring everything is a really large amount of data, maybe start out small and expand as your mirror needs to |
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| 07:59.20 | Taueres | Why is there no package "ettercap" in Debian Wheezy? (in oldstable and testing it's present) |
| 07:59.36 | somiaj | ,v ettercap |
| 07:59.37 | judd | Package: ettercap on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.7.3-2.1+squeeze1 |
| 07:59.49 | sandman13 | why i am getting this error? is it a bug?: http://imgur.com/d1HoiJW,hz4iLi3 (two images) |
| 07:59.57 | somiaj | Taueres: looks like it was removed from debian, probabaly to buggy or didnt' work with somet higns |
| 08:00.22 | mingtsay | somiaj: maybe this: amd64 armel armhf hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc |
| 08:00.46 | somiaj | yup that is a lot of arches, I would decide if you need to mirror them all or not |
| 08:01.01 | shur | But I do not get to understand why should the invariant sections be non free D:. |
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| 08:02.02 | somiaj | shur: you can't modifity them because they are invariant which defeates the pruprose of being freely modifable, read over the DFSG if you want more info |
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| 08:03.29 | somiaj | Taueres: http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ettercap/news/20130110T163913Z.html -- looks like it had some rc-bug and the soltuion was to remove it from testing before the release. Sometimes I wish these emailse were a little better at tracking down the actual bug |
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| 08:04.40 | w0rmie | i've a little problem |
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| 08:05.03 | w0rmie | i'm trying to compile à local module for a hardware |
| 08:05.38 | w0rmie | and it says: you need to install linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64. |
| 08:06.10 | Taueres | somiaj: many thanks, I'll try to compile it on my own then :-) |
| 08:06.27 | acu | howto disable login for root |
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| 08:07.33 | somiaj | !tell Taueres about ssb |
| 08:07.49 | pdvyas | query anand |
| 08:07.52 | somiaj | acu: what do you mean? Like over ssh? |
| 08:08.02 | pdvyas | sorry, wrong window |
| 08:08.24 | acu | somiaj: yes, ssh or local |
| 08:08.32 | acu | I can always login as normal user |
| 08:08.40 | acu | though I have to find a way for backuppc |
| 08:09.02 | somiaj | acu: I dont' think you want to disable local root login, (this may be a bad idea), but you can modify /etc/ssh/sshd_config and there is some PermitRootLogin or something flag you can set to disable remote login as root |
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| 08:09.44 | shur | Yet the invariant section verses about funding free software. That is not odd, but @#$%ing weird! |
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| 08:10.05 | acu | somiaj: thanks I will do that - I asked before, are the backports security updated ? |
| 08:10.35 | acu | this virus makes me way more cautious, I hope not paranoia |
| 08:10.38 | somiaj | acu: by the whim of the matainer. |
| 08:11.02 | somiaj | acu: so no security is guarnteed, but if a security hole is found in a backport the matianer may provide a new one, but no time table. |
| 08:11.07 | acu | i see, because I want to use the latest kernel for xfs and tools |
| 08:11.21 | shur | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Funding.html |
| 08:12.22 | somiaj | acu: the backported kernels are made fairly regurally, but if a major security hole is found you may want to make sure you can still run on a 3.2 kernel while you wait. |
| 08:12.25 | acu | I wish debian would learn a bit from ubuntu, release interim versions without long time maintenance, but still kind of stable until long term version is released |
| 08:12.44 | tapout | I aptitude ends up upgrading the kernel, does it require a reboot? |
| 08:13.09 | acu | well the OpenSSL might be the one that bite me, so nasty |
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| 08:13.33 | somiaj | acu: debian just has a different design. At one time debian cut was being talked about, but I think there just wans't the desire to follow though |
| 08:13.36 | acu | I have two machines totally screwed, I am still wondering how am I gona get the mail from them |
| 08:14.04 | somiaj | tapout: to get on the knew kernel yes, and since it is probabaly a secuirty issue it is a good idea |
| 08:14.35 | acu | somiaj, yes, I understand that it maybe a bit of a stretch, but this days 3 years are soooo technological long - openstack releases every 4 months or so :) |
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| 08:15.21 | somiaj | acu: depends, there is enough demenand for a squeeze-lts that a team of volenteers is now gonna matain security on squeeze until 2016 because they dont' want to be forced to upgrade. |
| 08:15.41 | somiaj | acu: in terms of solid server distrubtions debian moves fairly quickly in its release |
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| 08:16.39 | acu | yes, I know, it was the slowest, and redhat were criticised for releasing to often, now it switched :) |
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| 08:17.48 | talin | hello. i am trying to use the 7.4 minimal image to install debian |
| 08:18.11 | somiaj | talin: why? Why not juse use the net install image? |
| 08:18.12 | talin | whichever mirror i choose, it says "bad archive mirror" and syslog says that "mirror does not support the specified release (wheezy) |
| 08:18.44 | talin | is it possible that my network configuration is wrong, or could the error be something else? |
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| 08:19.10 | somiaj | talin: you are using the extra small business cd size image? You should get the netinstall image. |
| 08:19.28 | talin | somiaj: hmm, it's called debian 7.4.0 netinst |
| 08:19.29 | somiaj | talin: I think that image requires speical mirrors because you are needing special packages that would be included in the netinstall |
| 08:19.55 | somiaj | talin: oh, you do have the netinstall...sorry, was thinkign you downloaded the mini images. |
| 08:19.57 | talin | uhm, okay. |
| 08:20.24 | somiaj | talin: you can hit alt-f2 and just check that your internet is up |
| 08:20.30 | somiaj | talin: maybe 'ping google.com' from it |
| 08:21.16 | talin | ah, the network is not working |
| 08:21.19 | somiaj | talin: are you using wired or wifi? |
| 08:21.23 | talin | wired |
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| 08:21.43 | somiaj | talin: what wired card is it one of the few that require firmware or does it need a newer kernel? |
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| 08:22.06 | talin | somiaj: i think it might require firmware |
| 08:22.10 | talin | something did and i skipped it |
| 08:22.21 | talin | becuase i'm instlaling through this really annoying HP iLO virtual console |
| 08:22.24 | somiaj | talin: here is the nice thing about the netinstall is you don't need the network to finish te install |
| 08:22.45 | somiaj | talin: you have a fully functional base system on the netinstall, so you can just skip the mirror part, finish installing the base system |
| 08:22.56 | talin | ah, great |
| 08:23.16 | somiaj | talin: once you do that you can reboot into your new debian install. Just get the required firmware packages you need and copy them over to the machine, get your network up, and then apt-get install what ever you want |
| 08:23.46 | talin | not sure how to get past the mirror part though |
| 08:23.47 | somiaj | talin: thare are also non-free firmware images if you are sure it is a firmware issue |
| 08:23.50 | talin | there is no option for skipping it |
| 08:24.06 | talin | somiaj: yes, something non-free had to be downloaded manually |
| 08:24.08 | somiaj | talin: hit back or cancel, I belive you can just go to the list of options and go to the next one on the list |
| 08:24.16 | somiaj | !tell talin about firmware images |
| 08:24.19 | talin | i got the .deb, but was unable to mount it. i will fetch it after |
| 08:24.28 | somiaj | talin: if you just want to download a firmware image, but you should be able to complete the isntall of the base system with what you have |
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| 08:24.43 | talin | great |
| 08:24.58 | somiaj | talin: yea a .deb won't help you until after you have installed the base system. |
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| 08:26.47 | tapout | what's the latest kernel on wheezy? |
| 08:27.18 | somiaj | the 3.2 tree is wheezys offical kernel and a lot of new drivers do get backported into it, but not features |
| 08:27.29 | somiaj | you can get 3.13 from backports I belive (or 3.12) if you need newer features |
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| 08:28.34 | SynrG | ,kernels |
| 08:28.35 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.14-trunk-686-pae (3.14.1-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.10-1); jessie: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.10-1); wheezy-backports: 3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.13.7-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.54-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze5) |
| 08:28.46 | keezi | (11:27:44) keezi: How to build linux (latest stable) kernel with all modules and drivers build-in, - as one huge file? I now see "make menuconfig" |
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| 08:29.22 | tapout | 3.8.13-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 |
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| 08:31.01 | tapout | on wheezy, which package holds the kernel? dpkg -l doesn't list any installed? |
| 08:31.58 | rmdashrf | tapout: dpkg -l linux-image* |
| 08:32.22 | rmdashrf | tapout: are you using OVH/kimsufi/sys? |
| 08:32.30 | tapout | yes, ovh |
| 08:32.57 | rmdashrf | that's their own kernel; it's not from debian |
| 08:33.01 | somiaj | talin: linux-image-foo is the kernel packages name |
| 08:33.07 | somiaj | tapout: ^^ dpkg -l | grep linux-image |
| 08:33.30 | somiaj | yea sometimes on a virtual server you will be using the kernel of the host company |
| 08:33.31 | tapout | rmdashrf, do you host with them? |
| 08:33.41 | tapout | how do they push out the updates then? if no package? |
| 08:34.07 | rmdashrf | tapout: they don't push out updates. |
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| 08:34.58 | tapout | rmdashrf, how do you handle this? will it be bad to install linux-image? |
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| 08:35.21 | rmdashrf | tapout: the first thing i did was to install debian's kernel image |
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| 08:36.04 | tapout | does that handle grub ? |
| 08:36.20 | tapout | i don't wanna screw it up remotely and then be stuck trying to fix this for next day :) |
| 08:36.22 | rmdashrf | all of debian's kernels invoke the proper update-grub scripts |
| 08:36.40 | tapout | rmdashrf, did you bother with wheezy-backports or anything? |
| 08:36.52 | somiaj | tapout: are you sure you can run your own kernel on this virtual machine. Some are just containers and you are stuck with the hosts kernel. |
| 08:37.04 | rmdashrf | the wheezy official kernel is fine |
| 08:37.15 | tapout | somiaj, this is a full dedicated server |
| 08:37.25 | Twinkletoes | Why do I get a broken pipe error, when I use: tar -zcvf dump.tar.gz <(mysqldump --all-databases) ? |
| 08:37.28 | adkins | hey guys, if i boot into debian (fluxbox) and execute this script for dual monitor: http://pastebin.com/DJLnrvjD i can execute this script http://pastebin.com/7tJWM7hz i get 3 xterm windows besides and below each other on my primary screen perfectly. BUT if i execute a xrandr-script for using only one monitor and after that AGAIN the xrandr-script for two monitors the script for the 3 xterms doesnt show the windows like supposed to b |
| 08:37.30 | rmdashrf | unless you need something that absolutely *requires* the newer kernel versions (e.g. lxc), it's best to stick with the kernel that is actively being supported by the security team |
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| 08:38.22 | tapout | rmdashrf, did you just install... aptitude install linux-base? or did you need the -firmware one as well? |
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| 08:38.32 | rmdashrf | sudo apt-get install linux-image-amd64 |
| 08:38.33 | babilen | Twinkletoes: You have to give "-" at the end if you want tar to read from stdin |
| 08:38.49 | Twinkletoes | babilen: ah - it's a tar thing - thank you! |
| 08:39.16 | Twinkletoes | babilen: There's nothing wrong with that method though is there? I could use mysqldump |tar ... |
| 08:39.20 | tapout | rmdashrf, what happens to the other kernel? grub just installs the new one, updates grub and it sticks around? |
| 08:40.22 | rmdashrf | you can have multiple kernels installed with no problem |
| 08:40.31 | rmdashrf | tapout: it's up to you to select the default one grub uses |
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| 08:41.31 | rmdashrf | rename /etc/grub.d/06_OVHKernel to 19_OVHKernel (decreases the priority), and rerun update-grub |
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| 08:43.37 | tapout | update-grub2 ? |
| 08:43.55 | rmdashrf | /usr/sbin/update-grub |
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| 08:46.14 | tapout | one of my machines was up for 241 days, rebooted it like 10 minutes ago, nothing |
| 08:46.19 | tapout | i hope to god it's just doing the chkdsk |
| 08:46.22 | tapout | fsck |
| 08:46.24 | tapout | rather |
| 08:46.24 | tapout | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:47.42 | tapout | rmdashrf, why the custom kernel on ovh? i wonder if they're backdooring? |
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| 08:48.38 | epitamizor | do these spin-off distro's such as sparkylinux, elive really change anything from debian base or is it just packages |
| 08:49.00 | rmdashrf | tapout: debian doesn't package grsecurity kernels |
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| 08:49.24 | rmdashrf | i don't know why they would need to backdoor your kernel -- they have physical access to your box |
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| 08:50.39 | acu | gfgtggg`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` |
| 08:50.42 | acu | [;sfp;lpsf;lsf;l |
| 08:51.01 | tapout | thank god my box came back up |
| 08:51.02 | tapout | yay |
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| 08:51.48 | maasha | hi, can you put multiple email addresses in a .forward file? |
| 08:53.10 | tapout | rmdashrf, thanks man.. appreciate it, going to reboot the server .. my znc will go down so irc will be toasted :) |
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| 08:54.02 | rmdashrf | tapout: np |
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| 09:00.37 | babilen | Twinkletoes: You probably want to pipe into gzip or xz as in: "mysqldump ... | xz -z > mysql-backup-$(date +"%F").xz" |
| 09:01.14 | Twinkletoes | babilen: Thank you. I realised after I Asked that there's no point in piping through tar |
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| 09:02.42 | babilen | Twinkletoes: You can get tar to read the names of the *files* it will create a tarball of from stdin (and optionally compress them), but you shouldn't treat it as a compression tool per-se. Just use xz, gzip, ... directly when you want to compress from stdin. |
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| 09:04.44 | saivert | it is an archive tool. not a compression tool. it puts several files together. zip combines both archiving and compression which confuses some |
| 09:04.57 | Twinkletoes | Yeah - I just forgot :) |
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| 09:06.18 | saivert | now I have to go and fetch libvirt from something newer than the wheezy repos. Damn it is outdated |
| 09:07.06 | saivert | certain projects are just so fast moving I don't see why Debian even bothers packaging it. They will never be up to date on a debian platform. just leave it be in mentor or something |
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| 09:08.04 | tapout | box did not come back up :( |
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| 09:08.40 | tapout | installed the linux-image-amd64, renamed ovh to 19, update-grub, reboot |
| 09:08.48 | tapout | i'm hoping it's fsck'n |
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| 09:10.20 | tapout | rmdashrf, when you get into trouble with ovh, do you use the rescue kernel or something else? do you bother with kvm? |
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| 09:11.19 | lintguy1 | amazing… |
| 09:11.42 | lintguy1 | 4 sources got the syntax wrong on NOPASSWD in sudoers file |
| 09:11.58 | _boot | NOPASSWD gives me brown pants |
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| 09:12.17 | lintguy1 | needed for ansible provisioning |
| 09:12.22 | lintguy1 | but yeah... |
| 09:12.28 | _boot | yeah I had to use it for the same reason ;_; |
| 09:12.42 | _boot | only really for the synchronise module though |
| 09:12.49 | lintguy1 | should be safe if setting proper permissions on the user though |
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| 09:13.27 | _boot | yeah, I'm not entirely finished with my playbooks yet but I want to see if I can specify that the synchronise module should use a specific user |
| 09:13.47 | lintguy1 | you should be able to by adding remote_user in the playbook |
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| 09:14.05 | _boot | for one specific task? awesome |
| 09:14.09 | lintguy1 | yes :) |
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| 09:14.24 | lintguy1 | I was struggling with postgres for a while, but works now. |
| 09:14.31 | _boot | sounds good, I'll give it a test when I get the time |
| 09:14.56 | lintguy1 | A note though, if ansible just stops on a command - it is 99% chance it is waiting for interactive input |
| 09:15.02 | _boot | yeah |
| 09:15.03 | lintguy1 | this was not clear in the manual at all |
| 09:15.20 | _boot | i usually run with maximum verbosity when i'm not done anyway |
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| 09:15.31 | lintguy1 | yes, -vvvv is really helpful |
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| 09:15.48 | _boot | can you disable it from using cowsay? it's really annoying but I don't want to uninstall cowsay |
| 09:16.33 | lintguy1 | :-D |
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| 09:16.44 | lintguy1 | i'm not sure actually |
| 09:16.53 | _boot | lol I can't see with --help |
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| 09:17.18 | lintguy1 | _boot: Found it https://support.ansible.com/hc/en-us/articles/201957877-How-do-I-disable-cowsay- |
| 09:17.32 | _boot | ah, cool |
| 09:17.34 | _boot | :D |
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| 09:18.00 | lintguy1 | Indeed, funny indeed - hadn't heard of cowsay before |
| 09:18.38 | _boot | it's cool except for when _every_ message is through cowsay ._. |
| 09:19.04 | lintguy1 | Yeah, should'v been less often then it would be perfect |
| 09:19.10 | lintguy1 | but isn't that configurable? |
| 09:19.18 | shelpe | cowsay is trash |
| 09:19.21 | shelpe | toilet is better |
| 09:19.24 | _boot | not sure, think I'll just run with NOCOWS |
| 09:19.31 | _boot | toilet is pretty awesome |
| 09:19.37 | _boot | toilet+cowsay |
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| 09:19.45 | shelpe | _boot: heresy! |
| 09:20.20 | _boot | figlet lolwut | cowsay -n |
| 09:20.30 | _boot | or toilet |
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| 09:23.39 | DrOwl | Hi All, Any suggestions for debugging Xorg issues, I Upgraded to Jessy the other day and sicne then Xorg keeps kicking up to 80-90% cpu usage |
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| 09:25.26 | DrOwl | Granted i do have a "Pentium(R) 4 processor 3000 MHz", but i didnt have this problem with Wheezy |
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| 09:26.35 | _boot | i run on a Pentium 3 at 1.2GHz so it's definitely not your cpu :) |
| 09:26.35 | SynrG | see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
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| 09:28.11 | DrOwl | SynrG: for help with my Problem? |
| 09:28.40 | tapout | is there a way to log remotely so when I reboot my box, it fails.. ican see why? it seems the logs of it failing don't mkae /var/log/* files.. |
| 09:28.44 | SynrG | DrOwl: yes |
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| 09:30.18 | lintguy1 | Why do instruction blogs have to be so verbose, the wall of unnecessary texts are so anoying…. |
| 09:30.40 | DrOwl | SynrG: Thanks, Now i just need to remember again if i do /connect or /server, i dont have to very often ;) |
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| 09:32.15 | saivert | Anyways this whole libvirt thing seems a bit overengineered for my use. I will stick with lxc-tools for now |
| 09:32.19 | DrOwl | _boot: My p4 should be fine then, I mostly just do terminals and remote desktops =) Who says 10 years is old for a PC ;) |
| 09:32.38 | _boot | still works good, so I don't see a problem :D |
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| 09:38.12 | saivert | pretty much sucks that qemu-kvm depends on X11 shit |
| 09:38.28 | saivert | just dump it on my harddrive but will never actually run |
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| 09:38.57 | voxadam | How does a person change the system/X font in Debian/Gnome? |
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| 09:42.37 | damo22 | firstly, debian is amazing thankyou to everyone who develops it... i have a small bug to report with my nokia N900 phone when it is plugged in, the cdc_ether and cdc_acm kernel modules seem to disconnect my wired internet temporarily, well i dont know for sure but my networking drops out for a little bit.. |
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| 09:43.15 | SynrGy | saivert: sucks in what way? that's a *tiny* dependency footprint. plus even on a headless server you could ssh -X to it and display an X client remotely, so i think there isn't a strong case for making "X-less" variants of such packages. |
| 09:43.44 | damo22 | the bug is with the debian on my laptop when the phone is plugged into the usb port |
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| 09:44.50 | SynrGy | damo22: reporting bugs is 'reportbug'. but we can try to help with solutions. however, the underlying issue won't be resolved without a proper report. |
| 09:45.25 | damo22 | SynrGy: how can i be more helpful to describe the issue? |
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| 09:45.50 | SynrGy | provide a paste of dmesg at paste.debian.net for us to examine, perhaps? |
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| 09:46.05 | damo22 | okay |
| 09:46.14 | somiaj | damo22: error messages would be good if you can find any. look at 'dmesg | tail' or 'dmesg' and see if you see any warnings or errors hwen you plug the phone in. |
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| 09:50.33 | damo22 | somiaj: SynrGy: http://paste.debian.net/95627/ |
| 09:52.17 | damo22 | could it be a bug with mtp-probe kernel module? |
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| 09:56.02 | damo22 | sorry mtp-probe is not a kernel module it's part of udev |
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| 09:57.19 | gregor2 | can i get this http://fsv.sourceforge.net/screenshots/ |
| 09:57.23 | gregor2 | on debian? |
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| 09:59.13 | SynrGy | damo22: i don't know why it presents as an ethernet device. that just seems strange to me. do you really need that? if you blacklist cdc_ether is the connection still usable? |
| 09:59.40 | damo22 | SynrGy: ok ill try |
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| 10:00.04 | SynrGy | maybe this is to allow tethering or so? |
| 10:00.21 | SynrGy | if you don't need tethering, you may not need cdc_ether at all |
| 10:00.23 | damo22 | SynrGy: i need tethering |
| 10:00.27 | SynrGy | hmm |
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| 10:00.38 | tomodachi | gregor2: its last activity seems to have been made in 2001 |
| 10:00.52 | tomodachi | not sure it will even compile. Why not settle with gnomes disk usage analyzer |
| 10:01.00 | tomodachi | its a pi chart reprezenting usage instead of blocks |
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| 10:05.08 | memleak | hello! |
| 10:05.34 | memleak | debian debian goodness goodness debian debian goodness goodness |
| 10:05.44 | gregor2 | and what is your favurite file browser? |
| 10:05.45 | memleak | its like a song! |
| 10:05.55 | memleak | gregor2, i like nautilus |
| 10:05.57 | gregor2 | your favurite file manager! |
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| 10:06.30 | memleak | favourite.. favouruioute (oh now i sound super british... and i dont like it) |
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| 10:06.53 | gregor2 | hah |
| 10:07.01 | gregor2 | sorry im from austria! |
| 10:07.07 | furious | any estimate on when is linux 3.14 going to enter Debian Jessie? |
| 10:07.10 | memleak | AHNALD! |
| 10:07.27 | damo22 | SynrGy: cdc_ether is required for tethering because when i rmmod it and blacklist it, the glitch problem goes away but i cant tether anymore |
| 10:07.28 | gregor2 | when comes debian jessie? |
| 10:07.30 | memleak | furious, kernel.org && make menuconfig is too difficult? |
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| 10:07.48 | furious | memleak: uh? |
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| 10:08.15 | furious | too much of a work, yes |
| 10:08.33 | memleak | furious, in that case i have no idea, sorry :( |
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| 10:08.42 | damo22 | SynrGy: where can i find a list of maintainers for the cdc_ether module? |
| 10:09.31 | memleak | illegally tethering into other people's networks? :/ |
| 10:09.51 | memleak | what if NSA is in channel.. |
| 10:10.19 | damo22 | memleak: i am tethering my own network |
| 10:10.29 | memleak | ah, i see, sorry. |
| 10:10.43 | damo22 | i found a bug in the cdc_ether module |
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| 10:10.46 | tremon | damo22: try modinfo cdc_ether |
| 10:11.03 | damo22 | tremon: author name there with no email |
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| 10:11.13 | memleak | center of disease control ethernet.. HEH |
| 10:11.30 | memleak | (i couldn't help myself) |
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| 10:12.22 | memleak | damo22, what glitch problem you mentioned earlier? |
| 10:12.48 | damo22 | memleak: well i am using an old kernel, 3.2.0 it might have been fixed |
| 10:12.55 | memleak | EW |
| 10:13.07 | memleak | why bother with 3.2? |
| 10:13.16 | damo22 | memleak: why upgrade something that isnt broken |
| 10:13.27 | memleak | oh so cdc_ether works you're just trolling? |
| 10:13.32 | talin | hmm, i installed debian and then after installation i got a deb-file with firmware for my non-free network card. it does not show up in ifconfig though |
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| 10:13.43 | memleak | is confused |
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| 10:14.10 | damo22 | memleak: im not trolling i use wheezy standard kernel i want to have my ethernet not drop out when i use my phone on charge |
| 10:14.35 | damo22 | but still have the option to tether when i need to |
| 10:14.38 | memleak | i cant imagine installing a sed kernel be too dangerous |
| 10:14.53 | memleak | if anything just select the 3.2 one if it doesnt boot or w/e via grub menu\ |
| 10:14.58 | memleak | :D |
| 10:15.03 | damo22 | sed kernel? |
| 10:15.08 | trewas | damo22: easy "fix" would be to use N900 in mass storage mode instead of pc-suite mode when you don't need tethering |
| 10:15.10 | memleak | sid |
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| 10:15.23 | talin | perhaps there's a way to re-run the part of the installation that complains about missing firmware for non-free stuff? |
| 10:15.34 | memleak | debian unstable kernel, just the kernel |
| 10:15.51 | damo22 | trewas: the kernel module doesnt wait for me to select which mode on the phone before it decides |
| 10:16.14 | memleak | you could probably even get by just decompressing the kernel image and modules without dpkg, i.e. ar vx and decompress modules (.ko) to /lib/modules and image to /boot |
| 10:16.29 | tremon | memleak: stop that. We don't support mixing sid and stable for good reasons |
| 10:16.31 | memleak | modify grub.cfg / menu.lst whatever you use and a quick test |
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| 10:16.51 | damo22 | memleak: i can compile my own kernel no worries, but as a distro the standard wheezy should work |
| 10:16.53 | memleak | tremon, in that case the other option of using ar vx |
| 10:16.54 | tremon | damo22: there's 3.13 in wheezy backports if you want to try it |
| 10:17.05 | memleak | tremon, ah that works too! |
| 10:17.12 | damo22 | tremon: ok i will try |
| 10:17.15 | memleak | didnt know 3.13 was backported |
| 10:17.28 | tremon | !tell damo22 about wheezy backports |
| 10:17.35 | damo22 | tremon: thanks |
| 10:17.40 | trewas | damo22: hmm yeah apparently it defaults to whatever mode was used the last time, no problems here when I plug it in in pc-suite mode, but this is ubuntu 13.10 |
| 10:17.48 | memleak | tremon, i apologize for giving out such advice |
| 10:18.00 | memleak | i sincerely ahpoepoejize |
| 10:18.14 | damo22 | trewas: good to know! |
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| 10:18.39 | damo22 | its probably a couple of IF statements in the kernel module to fix it |
| 10:19.01 | trewas | damo22: although the problem could be network-manager or something (if you are using such) instead of cdc_ether |
| 10:19.04 | memleak | trewas, are you using nokia N900 for ethernet tethering? i only been in here for a few nanoseconds so i dont have all the logs but it seems thats what damo22 is doing |
| 10:19.34 | damo22 | trewas: im not sure, im using XFCE as my wm |
| 10:19.37 | memleak | you say it works, just want to make sure that when you're telling him it works, that you're both using same hardware and modules |
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| 10:19.49 | memleak | thats all :) |
| 10:20.16 | memleak | damo22, i believe NetworkManager is most tested, is it not? |
| 10:20.37 | damo22 | i did a standard install of debian with alternative wm |
| 10:20.48 | damo22 | from netinst |
| 10:20.55 | memleak | well what manager is the default for XFCE netinst? |
| 10:21.25 | damo22 | NetworkManager Applet 0.9.4.1 |
| 10:21.32 | memleak | ah thats the good one |
| 10:21.39 | memleak | hmmmmm |
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| 10:21.51 | memleak | any issues with tethering showing up in dmesg? |
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| 10:22.00 | damo22 | memleak: i can use tethering no worries |
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| 10:22.14 | damo22 | memleak: the problem is a slight network glitch when i plug in the phone |
| 10:22.23 | memleak | OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 10:22.24 | damo22 | before i select any modes |
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| 10:22.53 | damo22 | its annoying because it cuts my wired internet when i just want to charge the phone in mass storage mode |
| 10:23.06 | damo22 | its a tiny bug i know |
| 10:23.29 | memleak | well can you reconnect after its plugged in or does it stay a toolbox? |
| 10:23.33 | damo22 | but its the only bug i have with my os and it happens every time i plug my phone in |
| 10:24.05 | damo22 | i'll try 3.13 |
| 10:24.23 | memleak | damo22, i have an N900 as well but i use mer / mir / mur whatever the fuck, can you make phonecalls with debian on N900? |
| 10:24.54 | damo22 | memleak: ?? phonecalls? i dont have debian on my N900 i use maemo |
| 10:25.01 | memleak | OH |
| 10:25.02 | damo22 | this bug is not with the phone os |
| 10:25.03 | _boot | lol |
| 10:25.13 | lintguy1 | lol |
| 10:25.31 | lintguy1 | idling debian for the luls |
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| 10:25.59 | memleak | damo22, my n900 keeps rebooting over and over again with maemo |
| 10:26.13 | damo22 | thanks for your help i will come back to report when i try 3.13 from backports |
| 10:26.18 | petern_ | damo22 :D |
| 10:26.27 | damo22 | petern_: hi |
| 10:26.29 | memleak | i did several reflashes, NAND reflashes, and factory resets, did you ever have that issue? |
| 10:26.42 | damo22 | memleak: no problem with mine since i flashed it the first time |
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| 10:26.50 | memleak | lucky.... |
| 10:26.53 | memleak | LUCKY!! |
| 10:26.56 | damo22 | except the camera doesnt work anymore |
| 10:27.01 | damo22 | oh well |
| 10:27.33 | memleak | no more spycam in the shower then.. shame :'( |
| 10:27.49 | damo22 | err, |
| 10:29.02 | memleak | no im serious! the n900 can get pretty wet! |
| 10:29.11 | memleak | and still run of course^ |
| 10:29.49 | memleak | i looked into that reboot loop though and it seems to be the watchdog kicking in |
| 10:30.08 | damo22 | memleak: trust you with a housemate then |
| 10:30.18 | memleak | with it disabled only the corners of the keyboard light up |
| 10:30.22 | memleak | its really weird..... |
| 10:30.35 | memleak | and instead of rebooting it just hard locks |
| 10:30.51 | memleak | thats why i had to drop maemo but you never had any of those issues.. |
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| 10:32.31 | memleak | wow it got really quiet! |
| 10:32.55 | damo22 | bbl |
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| 10:34.40 | g105b | I have a Debian 6 server running for testing purposes. I don't want to upgrade the OS, but I would like to upgrade the php5 package to the latest stable release (not in the current debian package list). How can I upgrade the single package? |
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| 10:37.29 | ksk | g105b: go to php.net and see what ways to install they provide? |
| 10:37.46 | ksk | there might be a squeeze-backports php with newer version, but probably not "latest from upstream" |
| 10:37.50 | petn-randall | g105b: We don't recommend mixing releases, that's not supported. |
| 10:37.51 | memleak | g105b, you mean package a .deb yourself? |
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| 10:38.18 | g105b | memleak: I didn't specifically mean that, but if that's what it takes... |
| 10:38.32 | damo22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.34 | g105b | petn-randall: it's just a testing server |
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| 10:38.53 | damo22 | how do i force upgrade a package from backports |
| 10:38.55 | petn-randall | g105b: Sure, but also a testing server isn't immune to breakage. |
| 10:39.08 | memleak | damo22, ar vx :P |
| 10:39.10 | SynrGy | damo22: 'force'? |
| 10:39.30 | petn-randall | damo22: Check the '-t wheezy-backports' option in the man page. |
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| 10:39.47 | SynrGy | damo22: how were you trying that upgrade? |
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| 10:40.09 | damo22 | SynrGy: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13-bpo.... |
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| 10:40.24 | SynrGy | ah, right. so you didn't have the target set |
| 10:40.33 | SynrGy | which the doc you were sent should've said ... |
| 10:40.40 | petn-randall | g105b: I recommend upgrading to wheezy, it's really not an issue and rather smooth. If 5.4 isn't knew enough for you, you can either backport 5.5/5.6 from sid/experimental, or do a local install from the installer from php.net. |
| 10:40.51 | memleak | joj, is that a youtube poop related handle? |
| 10:40.58 | memleak | JOJ, HOH SIS, CS188? |
| 10:40.58 | SynrGy | damo22: just apt-get -t install linux-image-amd64, for example. |
| 10:41.02 | SynrGy | grr, typo |
| 10:41.11 | SynrGy | damo22: just apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64, for example. |
| 10:41.14 | damo22 | ahh |
| 10:41.19 | g105b | petn-randall: thanks for the advice :) |
| 10:41.24 | memleak | or ar vx, no? |
| 10:41.32 | joj | memleak: care to explain yourself? I have no idea what you mean. |
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| 10:41.45 | petn-randall | g105b: Don't be afraid of upgrading, from all distros Debian sticks out to be the easiest to upgrade :) |
| 10:42.02 | memleak | joj, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1kbluKOyOU |
| 10:42.13 | SynrGy | damo22: if you depend on any -dkms packages, also install linux-headers-amd64 from backports (e.g. virtualbox, etc.) |
| 10:42.34 | SynrGy | damo22: probably also a good idea to update your firmware, too |
| 10:42.36 | damo22 | SynrGy yes i also have custom kernel modules |
| 10:42.46 | damo22 | i am familiar with headers |
| 10:43.05 | joj | memleak: well no. it's the classic three-letter name initials/username |
| 10:43.11 | memleak | ohhhhhhhhhhh |
| 10:43.13 | saivert | SynrGy: of course not. X would never run but it would have packages I don't need on the system. It even depends on libpulse. Seriously? |
| 10:43.13 | g105b | petn-randall: I will upgrade the test server then. Is it as simple as updating the sources.list file, then performing apt-get upgrade functions? |
| 10:43.34 | SynrGy | saivert: maybe debian is not for you |
| 10:43.56 | saivert | KVM is used on servers to virtualize server guests |
| 10:44.04 | SynrGy | saivert: if you are highly anal / insist on *absolute* control over every dependency, try gentoo or something |
| 10:44.13 | saivert | if you want desktop virtualization you use virtualbox or vmware workstation |
| 10:44.16 | memleak | i use gentoo LFS and slackware |
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| 10:44.34 | damo22 | saivert: i find qemu is better |
| 10:44.36 | saivert | SynrGy: yes. Gentoo is very helpful with USE flags |
| 10:44.44 | SynrGy | saivert: if you think there's a strong argument to be made for splitting the package and producing one with lighter deps, then file a wishlist. |
| 10:44.44 | saivert | you can get everything the way you want it |
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| 10:44.53 | SynrGy | further whining -> /dev/null |
| 10:45.02 | saivert | debian has several -nox variants and I think qemu-kvm-nox would make sense |
| 10:45.07 | joj | saivert: I beg to differ. qemu+kvm+spice, using VirtIO delivers way better performance than vmware on my box |
| 10:45.14 | SynrGy | saivert: looking forward to that bug, then |
| 10:45.20 | SynrGy | and good luck with that |
| 10:45.46 | saivert | you don't make the reputation of this channel any better just so you know. "debian way or the highway" |
| 10:45.59 | memleak | DAMN IT I SPILLED BAKED BEAN SAUCE ON MY SHIRT |
| 10:46.29 | SynrGy | saivert: the debian way *is* to split packages when there's a good reason to do so for users. |
| 10:46.48 | memleak | UGH THIS SUCKS |
| 10:46.50 | SynrGy | saivert: there are plenty of precedents in the archive, as you've pointed out |
| 10:47.03 | damo22 | saivert: youre on a debian channel btw |
| 10:47.44 | SynrGy | saivert: i wasn't saying 'debian way or the highway', just that whining unproductively on #debian doesn't change anything ... |
| 10:48.10 | SynrGy | saivert: filing a bug *may* change something (but i have my doubts; still, that's just *my* personal opinion and not representative of debian as a whole) |
| 10:48.13 | damo22 | this was the easiest kernel upgrade in the history of kernel upgrades |
| 10:48.27 | saivert | so do you run Debian on a server? |
| 10:48.38 | saivert | or do you consider it a desktop oriented distro? |
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| 10:49.00 | damo22 | saivert: i run a debian based distro on my raspberry pi server |
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| 10:49.20 | SynrGy | saivert: i run debian on two servers, and i'm not unhappy with a few extra deps for the sake of "this makes it possible for maintainers to have a lighter load and the archive not having a bazillion variants of thing" |
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| 10:49.29 | saivert | I run a headless box. The only way I interface with it is via a SSH connection |
| 10:49.31 | SynrGy | i.e. it's what works best for users *on the whole* |
| 10:49.39 | damo22 | saivert: same |
| 10:50.14 | damo22 | saivert: which is why sometimes compiling everything from source is bad for me |
| 10:50.37 | damo22 | rpi is weak at compiling its os |
| 10:50.51 | SynrGy | again, if you think a -nox split here is worth the extra maintenance complexity and archive bloat, make that argument through a wishlist bug. |
| 10:50.58 | memleak | this is the stuff i got on my shirt: http://www.bushbeans.com/en_US/products/details.jsp?upc=3940001972 |
| 10:51.02 | memleak | will it stain?? |
| 10:51.28 | damo22 | cat memleak > /dev/null |
| 10:51.32 | joj | !ops memleak: random, unrelated internet spam |
| 10:51.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj: joj complains about: memleak: random, unrelated internet spam |
| 10:51.33 | SynrGy | anything else is just whining and offtopic for here. |
| 10:52.09 | memleak | hey i was trying to help, im sorry i got distracted |
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| 10:52.25 | SynrGy | memleak: take it to #debian-offtopic or /dev/null |
| 10:52.34 | damo22 | LOL my command works |
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| 10:53.12 | damo22 | rebooting |
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| 10:54.51 | saivert | There is already a bug report on it btw: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=680052 |
| 10:55.02 | SynrGy | then you could add your 2c |
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| 10:56.15 | damo22 | Linux zamlap 3.13-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.13.10-1~bpo70+1 (2014-04-23) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:56.16 | SynrGy | saivert: actually, the maintainer responded quite usefully |
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| 10:56.41 | damo22 | SynrGy: the bug is still there |
| 10:57.14 | SynrGy | damo22: so might be something wonky happening in the ifup |
| 10:57.22 | SynrGy | and not a bug in the driver at all |
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| 10:57.40 | damo22 | SynrGy: is it bad that i edited /etc/network/interfaces to not bring up automatically |
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| 10:58.09 | damo22 | NetworkManager does not manage my wired interface |
| 10:58.35 | SynrGy | "bad"? no ... i don't think so ... |
| 10:58.47 | SynrGy | NM is managing the phone though? |
| 10:58.52 | damo22 | SynrGy: yes |
| 10:59.04 | SynrGy | so you could try maybe having /e/n/i managing it |
| 10:59.18 | SynrGy | to see if it's an NM-specific issue |
| 10:59.43 | damo22 | SynrGy: i appreciate your time, i have no clue how to initiate a ppp connection in a phone manually with /e/n/i |
| 10:59.44 | SynrGy | maybe it's doing something stupid there |
| 11:00.08 | damo22 | is there a man page for that? |
| 11:00.12 | SynrGy | well, even if you lack that expertise, it gives you another line of inquiry other than "driver bug" |
| 11:00.32 | damo22 | yep |
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| 11:00.51 | damo22 | is there an index for man? |
| 11:00.55 | SynrGy | apropos |
| 11:01.17 | damo22 | ty |
| 11:01.19 | SynrGy | er, 'yes', and apropos is the way to search it |
| 11:01.55 | damo22 | that is the first command people should learn |
| 11:02.02 | SynrGy | :) |
| 11:02.05 | SynrGy | agreed |
| 11:02.10 | damo22 | i never heard of it |
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| 11:02.46 | SynrGy | !tell damo22 about fundamentals |
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| 11:06.41 | SharkMuttleworth | Yelp and similar GUI tools can search man pages, easier than the CLI |
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| 11:07.17 | SynrGy | and then there's manpages.debian.net in case you are looking for manpages of stuff not (yet) installed on your system. |
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| 11:31.26 | petn-randall | goto fail |
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| 11:32.07 | grahams | hi all |
| 11:32.30 | romanov_ | hi there |
| 11:32.37 | grahams | can someone instruct me in the proper way to give a user full permissions in wheezy |
| 11:32.43 | grahams | i keep messin it up |
| 11:32.44 | grahams | :/ |
| 11:32.53 | SynrGy | grahams: sudo? |
| 11:32.58 | grahams | read write change dir etc |
| 11:33.03 | SynrGy | ah |
| 11:33.04 | grahams | execute |
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| 11:33.10 | grahams | all those |
| 11:33.13 | grahams | lol |
| 11:33.28 | SynrGy | spare us ... 'enter' key is not punctuation. |
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| 11:33.33 | grahams | sorry |
| 11:33.53 | tapout | when I am in a rescue boot, and I mount /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 ... how do I then chroot the directories so I can install stuff and what not? |
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| 11:34.21 | SynrGy | grahams: grant the same user as owns the file those permissions, or another user? and what problem are you actually trying to solve? |
| 11:34.59 | petn-randall | grahams: chmod will do that, see 'man chmod'. If you need more help you need to be way more specific about your problem. |
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| 11:35.38 | grahams | the problem for example: as i dont know the proper way to give my user full as in all permisions i had to give him sudo and some things wont run in root user so he cant turn those on and if he trys without he gets perm denied |
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| 11:36.06 | SynrGy | grahams: wow, that's so ... incoherent :( |
| 11:36.07 | grahams | I have read the manual i guess i just dont have enough experience yet |
| 11:36.12 | petn-randall | grahams: Like, what for example? |
| 11:36.34 | SynrGy | as for "some things", i'm guessing X applications. and no, you can't / shouldn't run those as root without X authentication |
| 11:36.48 | grahams | well for example one app requires the command ./security and he gets perm denied |
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| 11:37.05 | petn-randall | grahams: What kind of command is ./security? |
| 11:37.08 | grahams | as i do not know how to give him permissions all i did give him sudu |
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| 11:37.18 | softplay | hello, i have problem with my wireless interface's firmware |
| 11:37.25 | softplay | can you help? |
| 11:37.36 | softplay | do you need the lspci output? |
| 11:37.41 | petn-randall | softplay: Sure, ask ahead. Assuming you're running Debian, though. |
| 11:37.44 | damo22 | ./security == ./mempobug ? |
| 11:37.50 | grahams | this is not about the app please can you tell me how to grant a user read write execute and change directory permissions |
| 11:37.55 | softplay | it is a usb device (my wireless network device) |
| 11:38.04 | softplay | yes wheezy |
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| 11:38.09 | grahams | i would rather not explain every app i have installed |
| 11:38.11 | SynrGy | grahams: no, because the answer is *different* depending on what your *actual* problem is. |
| 11:38.14 | petn-randall | grahams: 'man chmod' then, good luck. |
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| 11:38.43 | wols | softplay: lsusb output |
| 11:38.46 | grahams | petn-randall it is the flags that i do not know |
| 11:38.50 | wols | !tell grahams about permissions |
| 11:39.00 | softplay | ok |
| 11:39.10 | wols | grahams: ls -l <that file> to show us these permissions please |
| 11:39.10 | sparky4 | nvidia.ko failed to build! <= >< i cannot get nvidia driver instALLED in debian jessie |
| 11:39.23 | wols | sparky4: then show us the output |
| 11:39.27 | damo22 | while test 1; do eject /dev/sr0;done |
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| 11:39.36 | SynrGy | softplay: lspci is useless for usb |
| 11:39.38 | softplay | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 148f:2573 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2501/RT2573 Wireless Adapter |
| 11:39.51 | grahams | why do guys make it so hard to get help i have read the manual for days you guys if you wanted to could tell me how to give read write execute and change dir permissions |
| 11:39.54 | wols | sparky4: and also the *nvidia* packages installed, your *linux* packages too |
| 11:39.58 | grahams | but you would rather flame |
| 11:40.02 | SynrGy | softplay: ... which you figured out, good :) |
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| 11:40.15 | wols | grahams: we already did. dpkg messaged you with the link to a tutorial about permissions |
| 11:40.40 | sparky4 | wols: reinstall linux and nvidia packages? |
| 11:40.58 | wols | grahams: we are not here to do your work for you, we are here to show you how you can help yourself and learn something for the future. permissions are a basic linux skill needed by every user |
| 11:40.58 | SynrGy | grahams: so you expect to come here with a poorly-defined problem and we just give you a command to type? |
| 11:41.02 | wols | sparky4: no |
| 11:41.04 | softplay | ok then i have to search online for the firmware right? |
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| 11:41.18 | grahams | i have read the manual and spoke to debian dev the recommended i come here im going to email me the logs of you basically saying "rtfm" so THEY know you dont help you flame and say RTFM |
| 11:41.23 | SynrGy | grahams: we are *trying* to help you. if we don't know what your real problem is, we can't help. |
| 11:41.30 | wols | sparky4: I asked you to show us which packages with "nvidia" or "linux" anywhere in the package name you have installed |
| 11:41.39 | SynrGy | grahams: since you refuse to give us coherent explanation of your problem, we can only point you at doc. |
| 11:41.57 | grahams | you can answer a simple question what flags does a user need to read write execute and change dir |
| 11:42.00 | grahams | simple |
| 11:42.03 | SynrGy | grahams: *if* you asked a smart question, we could answer intelligently |
| 11:42.05 | wols | grahams: and as SynrGy wrote: you go about this the totally wrong way. if you need to run something as root in Xorg, you use gksu, sux, etc |
| 11:42.05 | SynrGy | !ask |
| 11:42.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 11:42.08 | grahams | not ask what programs im running |
| 11:42.11 | grahams | etc |
| 11:42.40 | SynrGy | grahams: then you fail at irc help. i'm sorry. until you learn how it works, we can't help. |
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| 11:42.44 | wols | grahams: easy: the writable flag for user, group or everyone else must be set. now I have answered your question but you are still clueless |
| 11:42.47 | grahams | its really ok as i host 3 of the debian ftps im certain they will be glad to see these logs |
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| 11:42.55 | grahams | prepares email |
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| 11:43.16 | romanov_ | oh.. i have a question too, but now im kinda afraid to ask :P |
| 11:43.17 | SynrGy | grahams: there are a ton of helpers here prepared to bend over backwards for you to help, but not without an adequate explanation of your problem. |
| 11:43.43 | damo22 | grahams: you need to be root user to change permissions of any file/dir that you dont own yourself |
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| 11:43.52 | wols | grahams: no they won't. and threatening like a ten year old simply means you are a kid. They will be very polite to you since you've shown to be an unstable personality however |
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| 11:44.03 | grahams | the answer is simple the question is simple if user name is grahams how do you give grahams read write execute in wheezy |
| 11:44.05 | grahams | simple |
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| 11:44.22 | wols | grahams: w/r for WHAT? which wile? which owner has this file? |
| 11:44.22 | SynrGy | the question is not simple. it's vague and has one of any of a number of possible answers, depending on what you're trying to do |
| 11:44.30 | wols | *which file |
| 11:44.45 | damo22 | grahams: it depends which file, who owns it previously and what permissions you want set |
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| 11:44.53 | grahams | file is owned by user user is graham |
| 11:45.23 | tapout | i'm having issues with my box booting up properly. I can't find any logs, so I figured I would install bootlogd on wheezy. Other than that, what should I do to track this damn thing down? |
| 11:45.30 | wols | grahams: the link dpkg sent you tells you how permissions work. your unwillingness to read this makes you seen as a tool. if graham owns it he already has full write access |
| 11:45.43 | wols | tapout: tell us the error message |
| 11:46.04 | tapout | i'm remote, server just doesn't reply to pings |
| 11:46.08 | grahams | considering i have read it for two days obviously im not understanding it as i dont have your experience |
| 11:46.12 | damo22 | grahams: if the file is called hello.txt and already owned by the same user trying to change it you can do 'chmod u+rwx hello.txt' |
| 11:46.13 | sparky4 | wols: i was installing it via nvidia installer |
| 11:46.15 | grahams | its a command |
| 11:46.25 | sparky4 | and also i have 3.13 as the kernel |
| 11:46.33 | wols | grahams: then ask what you don't understand. we will help you with that actually. you are just arguing and not solving your problem |
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| 11:46.36 | grahams | see now that helps |
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| 11:46.41 | grahams | ty damo22 |
| 11:46.48 | sparky4 | wols: ^^; |
| 11:46.50 | grahams | all this bs and there is the answer |
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| 11:47.04 | grahams | damo22 you are a gentleman and a scholar |
| 11:47.04 | damo22 | grahams: but that makes the file readable, writeable and executable |
| 11:47.13 | wols | grahams: and it's the wrong one. what damo22 told you is a bad idea. you don't make .txt files executable |
| 11:47.14 | tapout | wols, when I do get a successful boot on the new kernel, no services come up... sshd/nginx/mysql ... only 1 port ends up listening, i think port 425 or whatever it is for that microsoft-ds |
| 11:47.15 | damo22 | by only the user |
| 11:47.34 | wols | tapout: that would be samba |
| 11:47.36 | grahams | it isnt a damn txt file but the command answered my question |
| 11:47.39 | damo22 | well actually it adds that permission to the current permissions |
| 11:47.45 | grahams | anyhow ty damo22 |
| 11:47.50 | damo22 | it doesnt exclude others |
| 11:47.51 | tapout | wols, i don't have samba |
| 11:48.02 | tapout | oh right |
| 11:48.05 | wols | sparky4: since you apparently don't understand what we need: you need to run the commands "dpkg -l |nvidia" and "dpkg -l linux" and show us the output in a pastebin |
| 11:48.24 | wols | tapout: that is the only logical package which would listen on the ms ds port |
| 11:48.37 | damo22 | grahams: but there are other ways to set permissions with numbers that set the groups and world permissions |
| 11:48.41 | wols | and it's 445 |
| 11:48.54 | damo22 | its all in the man page |
| 11:49.02 | wols | damo22: grahams doesn't read manpages |
| 11:49.02 | tapout | nmap : 445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds |
| 11:49.15 | tapout | wols, the machine booted up, no services again.. wth lol |
| 11:49.16 | wols | tapout: that is not "open", is i? |
| 11:49.18 | wols | *it |
| 11:49.20 | sparky4 | ok wols |
| 11:49.22 | tapout | nope |
| 11:49.26 | tapout | nmap just shows it filtered |
| 11:49.31 | tapout | i suspect isp is blocking that |
| 11:49.49 | tapout | my damn box booted, no services came up. I hope this bootlogd actually logged something this time |
| 11:49.53 | tapout | i have to boot rescue again |
| 11:49.54 | sparky4 | wols bash: nvidia: command not found |
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| 11:50.25 | wols | sparky4: please read my message again, I gave you the exact commands to run in quotes. the command was NOT "nvidia" |
| 11:50.33 | petern_ | wols, you missed grep :-) |
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| 11:50.43 | wols | petern_: ok, I'm stupid. |
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| 11:50.58 | wols | sparky4: "dpkg -l |grep nvidia" and "dpkg -l |grep linux" |
| 11:51.21 | sparky4 | wols: lol ok |
| 11:51.26 | petern_ | zees things do 'appen |
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| 11:51.52 | wols | tapout: you should easily see kernel log and syslog. that should be enough to see if you got a IP, and if the services you needgot started |
| 11:52.03 | tapout | it replies to ping |
| 11:52.07 | tapout | just no ports are open |
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| 11:56.49 | tapout | well, my boot file doesn't really show me much |
| 11:57.00 | sparky4 | wols: http://paste.debian.net/95654/ |
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| 11:57.44 | wols | sparky4: you miss the one for nvidia |
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| 11:58.17 | sparky4 | wols: i know |
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| 11:58.58 | sparky4 | wols: http://paste.debian.net/95655/ |
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| 11:59.28 | wols | sparky4: and the error is? |
| 11:59.34 | wols | first error that is |
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| 11:59.44 | tapout | !pastebin |
| 11:59.44 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 12:00.18 | tapout | hey wols, http://paste.debian.net/95656/ ... that's all I get in boot, no services get started... any ideas? |
| 12:00.40 | sparky4 | wols: [ 4311.790652] nvidia: Unknown symbol acpi_os_wait_events_complete (err 0) |
| 12:00.42 | sparky4 | [ 4320.218817] nvidia: Unknown symbol acpi_os_wait_events_complete (err 0) |
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| 12:01.10 | petern_ | sparky4, nvidia driver does not work witn 3.13 kernel in wheezy-backports |
| 12:01.12 | wols | sparky4: sounds like a driver to kernel problem. try running an older kernel |
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| 12:01.46 | sparky4 | wols: ok...... how do I downgrade to an older kernel? |
| 12:02.05 | sparky4 | petern_: this is jessie |
| 12:02.10 | petern_ | oh |
| 12:02.16 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 12:02.16 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
| 12:02.21 | wols | install the older kernel. snapshots.debian.net for example |
| 12:03.11 | petern_ | btw you have quite a bit of cruft installed, purge them packages some day ;p |
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| 12:10.12 | sparky4 | i am going to use the wheezy kernel |
| 12:11.12 | tapout | none of my damn services load up |
| 12:11.22 | tapout | on both kernels now, only rescue works |
| 12:11.24 | tapout | wth |
| 12:11.53 | tapout | wols, ls -lat /var/logs .. only lists 'boot' , nothing in syslog or anything |
| 12:11.59 | tapout | well, stuff from way earlier |
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| 12:14.37 | tapout | weird, it doesn't get to runlevel2 |
| 12:14.38 | tapout | for some reason |
| 12:14.46 | tapout | i'll just use the oldest kernel that worked |
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| 12:26.24 | softplay | hello |
| 12:26.33 | softplay | i still have problem with the wireless |
| 12:26.39 | softplay | dmesg [ 3864.532429] usb 1-2: USB disconnect, device number 2 |
| 12:26.39 | softplay | [ 3864.567235] usb 1-4: USB disconnect, device number 3 |
| 12:26.39 | softplay | [ 3864.567361] wlan0: deauthenticating from c0:4a:00:3f:a3:a6 by local choice (reason=3) |
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| 12:27.01 | softplay | what could be happened? |
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| 12:28.08 | SynrG | softplay: still, after doing what? |
| 12:28.23 | softplay | after installing the firmwaRE |
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| 12:28.26 | softplay | IT WAS WORKING |
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| 12:28.32 | softplay | BUT THEN SUDDENTLY IT STOPPED |
| 12:28.37 | SynrG | caps |
| 12:28.38 | softplay | o sorry |
| 12:28.41 | softplay | caps lock |
| 12:29.09 | SynrG | so, to recap: wheezy? wheezy kernel (not backports)? |
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| 12:29.23 | softplay | wheezy yes |
| 12:29.31 | softplay | i have some non-free repo |
| 12:29.36 | softplay | one id the dvd lib |
| 12:29.42 | softplay | is this a backport? |
| 12:29.44 | SynrG | and dmesg | grep firmware shows the firmware is actually loaded successfully |
| 12:29.47 | SynrG | softplay: no |
| 12:29.51 | softplay | ok |
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| 12:31.03 | softplay | [ 3.092606] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Ralink |
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| 12:31.45 | softplay | SynrG, it says [ 3.092606] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Ralink |
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| 12:32.32 | SynrG | softplay: that isn't a line with 'firmware' in it ... and yes, i know it's Ralink and it's USB (you gave that information before, including usbid) |
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| 12:33.19 | softplay | sorry |
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| 12:33.31 | softplay | this is the right command SynrG |
| 12:33.32 | softplay | [ 6.871701] [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree. |
| 12:33.32 | softplay | [ 20.258546] r8169 0000:02:00.0: firmware: agent aborted loading rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw (not found?) |
| 12:33.32 | softplay | [ 20.258740] r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw (-2) |
| 12:33.32 | softplay | [ 20.287108] rt73usb 1-4:1.0: firmware: agent aborted loading rt73.bin (not found?) |
| 12:33.32 | softplay | [ 388.408118] rt73usb 1-4:1.0: firmware: agent aborted loading rt73.bin (not found?) |
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| 12:35.01 | SynrG | softplay: apt-cache policy firmware-ralink |
| 12:35.04 | softplay | sorry |
| 12:35.10 | SynrG | softplay: and use paste.debian.net for output > 2 lines |
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| 12:35.31 | SynrG | softplay: from what i can see you don't have the firmware installed. |
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| 12:36.26 | softplay | http://paste.debian.net/95661/ |
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| 12:36.46 | softplay | i installe it through apt-get install firmware-ralink |
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| 12:37.08 | SynrG | softplay: and then rebooted? |
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| 12:37.20 | softplay | no i didn't reboot |
| 12:37.27 | SynrG | hence your problem |
| 12:37.36 | softplay | so i just have to reboot? |
| 12:37.40 | SynrG | yes. |
| 12:37.47 | softplay | great |
| 12:37.50 | softplay | thanks |
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| 12:38.23 | ottoshmidt | hello, is there any package for monitoring UPSs other than apcupsd, 'cause our ups isn't APC and that package doesn't work for us? |
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| 12:42.21 | SynrG | ottoshmidt: nut |
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| 12:42.36 | SynrG | ottoshmidt: nut works with APC, too |
| 12:43.10 | SynrG | ottoshmidt: this vendor neutraility makes it my monitoring tool of choice, since then i can use the same software everywhere. |
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| 12:43.58 | ottoshmidt | SynrG, thanks a lot, will check. |
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| 12:44.28 | softplay | SynrG, it still doesn't connect |
| 12:44.40 | softplay | it doesn't accept the passphrase |
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| 12:45.02 | softplay | but it is the right passphrase |
| 12:45.10 | softplay | could i be the protocol which is wrong? |
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| 12:46.13 | softplay | how can i check? |
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| 12:46.44 | iceisfun | I'm having trouble with a ietd.conf ... the target shows up but no disk maps when I connect to it http://pastebin.com/FGN3My13 |
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| 12:47.49 | softplay | the router says that i'm connected |
| 12:47.56 | softplay | and the passphrase is right |
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| 12:49.19 | SynrG | softplay: dunno. how is your wireless configured? via NetworkManager? |
| 12:49.34 | SynrG | it should autonegotiate the right protocol |
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| 12:50.03 | SynrG | i gotta go. work calls. |
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| 12:56.51 | foetus | Hy - by unmounting my usbdrive (kingston data traveler 3g, format ext4) i can see some kernel trace (sometimes) in logfile. After re-plugging usbstick fsck is reporting filesystem as "clean" - so nothing should be harmed. is this a known approach ? using fresh upgraded debian wheezy. |
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| 12:58.39 | ompaul | foetus: you could run sync after the umount and wait for it to exit |
| 12:58.49 | ompaul | then you know 10000000% that you are doing it right |
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| 13:01.10 | foetus | ompaul: hmm, ok. No Data loss till now, so i will take a look of that. Thanks. |
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| 13:02.38 | foetus | btw, you mean sync before and then unmount, right? |
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| 13:06.38 | foetus | will turn huge_file off. makes no sense to me. |
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| 13:08.31 | Procy0n | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.37 | Procy0n | whops, sorry |
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| 13:11.39 | modyn | hi |
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| 13:11.52 | modyn | how do i change a spin.php ? |
| 13:11.53 | modyn | edit? |
| 13:12.16 | ompaul | nano is one tool |
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| 13:19.15 | modyn | ompaul:ok will the same coding reming? |
| 13:19.35 | modyn | ompaul: i mean. if the file using ANSII will it still use it after change with nano? |
| 13:19.48 | ompaul | modyn: why would it change |
| 13:20.07 | ompaul | unless you are doing something on your system to change it |
| 13:20.37 | ompaul | modyn: anyway - php is not here the better question would have been "what is a simple editor on debian" |
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| 13:22.54 | SharkMuttleworth | modyn: Use GNU Emacs, easier to use than nano |
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| 13:32.53 | qsuscs | does someone know whether a passive displayport to hdmi adaptor supports audio? |
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| 13:34.16 | SynrG | yes? maybe? try it and see? :) |
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| 13:34.47 | Twinkletoes | I'm writing a little bash script to make backups, for 7 days, then 4 weeks, then 12 months, but I don't know how to write the rotation scheme so that each 7th backup will be copied to the weekly backup scheme |
| 13:35.02 | Twinkletoes | I could test the day, but if I miss that day for instance, it will never catch up |
| 13:35.17 | qsuscs | ahh i had to switch output from internal speakers to hdmi manually |
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| 13:35.23 | SynrG | qsuscs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Compatibility_with_HDMI.2C_DVI_and_VGA |
| 13:35.32 | SynrG | qsuscs: so ... success? |
| 13:35.38 | qsuscs | yep |
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| 13:35.56 | SynrG | great |
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| 13:40.33 | lt_cmdr_lore | with reprepro distributions, |
| 13:40.57 | lt_cmdr_lore | what to put in label and origin? e.g. when creating some debian remix lets say debianxfce.org |
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| 13:45.57 | SynrG | lt_cmdr_lore: perhaps a question for the derivatives frontdesk? |
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| 13:46.27 | SynrG | lt_cmdr_lore: https://wiki.debian.org/DerivativesFrontDesk |
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| 13:47.24 | Walex | qsuscs: passive? How is that possible? |
| 13:47.41 | SynrG | lt_cmdr_lore: why do a remix as a deriv? does it include stuff that can't go into debian? If not, perhaps it should be a pure blend instead? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends |
| 13:48.42 | waflessnet | hi |
| 13:48.51 | waflessnet | how get bus id the HDMI ? |
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| 13:49.10 | lt_cmdr_lore | SynrG: mempo.org |
| 13:49.17 | tiekookeit | lspci€ |
| 13:49.19 | tiekookeit | ? |
| 13:49.20 | lt_cmdr_lore | SynrG: some changed will be not accepted by debian |
| 13:49.33 | SynrG | Walex: maybe 'passive' just means 'not very active'? ;) |
| 13:49.50 | SynrG | e.g. http://www.accellcables.com/B086B-001B.html "The circuitry built-into the adapter seamlessly converts the DisplayPort’s A/V signal into an HDMI A/V signal and requires no external power." |
| 13:49.59 | lt_cmdr_lore | SynrG: thanks; perhaps you can say if http://deb.mempo.org/apt/debian/conf/distributions looks valid? |
| 13:50.01 | SynrG | this is a different meaning to 'passive' than usual |
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| 13:50.49 | SynrG | lt_cmdr_lore: beats me. that's why i referred you to the derivs frontdesk, as they may know |
| 13:50.56 | SynrG | lt_cmdr_lore: i would only be searching doc, myself |
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| 13:57.52 | waflessnet | lt_cmdr_lore, mempo should be OpenBSD |
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| 14:01.28 | bartlomiej_lewan | Hello all |
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| 14:01.39 | bartlomiej_lewan | I'm trying to upgrade my dist to Jessie |
| 14:02.31 | bartlomiej_lewan | but doing apt-get dist-upgrade yields: |
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| 14:02.39 | bartlomiej_lewan | The following packages have unmet dependencies: modemmanager : Breaks: network-manager (< 0.9.8.2-1) but 0.9.4.0-10 is to be installed |
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| 14:03.07 | bartlomiej_lewan | anybody have an idea how I can fix this? |
| 14:03.11 | SynrG | jessie support -> #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net where we will ask you more questions |
| 14:03.32 | bartlomiej_lewan | SynrG: cheers |
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| 14:05.16 | Sander_l | Hi. I'm running an instance of turnkey linux. and getting: mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory.. and dropped into initramfs. |
| 14:05.25 | petn-randall | !turnkey |
| 14:05.26 | dpkg | TurnKey Linux is a project providing ready-to-use "virtual appliances" packaged as live CDs, which are based on <Ubuntu> 8.04.3 LTS. TurnKey Linux appliances are not supported in #debian. http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ #turnkey on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on Debian>. |
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| 14:05.48 | Sander_l | Ok, thanks :-) |
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| 14:07.00 | Sander_l | There is none on that channel. :-( |
| 14:07.19 | Sander_l | Ah, ubuntu :-) |
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| 14:20.16 | rubidious | Hello. I'm having some issues removing HPA/DCO settings on a usb external drive with hdparm. Are there any other tools that allow resetting the correct sector size? |
| 14:21.01 | rubidious | When I try to hdparm -N /dev/sdX, I get: "SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]:... bunch of hex duplets" |
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| 14:21.43 | qsuscs | Walex: the displayport protocol is indeed different from hdmi/dvi, but some (i.e. most, especially mobile devices) also support hdmi protocol |
| 14:22.11 | qsuscs | Walex: and as the adaptor is normed, it can be detected and the protocol is switched |
| 14:22.13 | SynrG | qsuscs: oh, so it's actually sending hdmi out the displayport. makes sense (guess i didn't fully read the earlier article i linked :) |
| 14:22.17 | SynrG | was a bit of a tl;dr |
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| 14:22.49 | SynrG | makes more sense now |
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| 14:22.53 | qsuscs | but afaik, it has some limitations, e.g. dual-link dvi/hdmi does not (yet?) work without an active adaptor |
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| 14:27.54 | rubidious | anyone with hdparm experience? |
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| 14:28.05 | SynrG | !anyone |
| 14:28.05 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 14:28.47 | rubidious | Hello. I'm having some issues removing HPA/DCO settings on a usb external drive with hdparm. Are there any other tools that allow resetting the correct sector size? |
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| 14:30.47 | SynrG | rubidious: all i know about it is hdparm's options to mess with that stuff are slapped with big bold warnings. what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 14:31.09 | petn-randall | rubidious: Can you paste the full output to http://paste.debian.net? Also check if the security freeze is set on the device, IIRC this disables the possibility to set the HPA. |
| 14:31.13 | SynrG | and i guess hdparm won't always work across usb |
| 14:31.17 | rubidious | I'm trying to remove the hidden partition added by the usb disk manufacturer |
| 14:31.26 | rubidious | petn-randall: sure, sec |
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| 14:31.35 | greenride | How does one save monitor configuration after reboot? There was an easy way to do this, but I forgot. |
| 14:31.47 | SynrG | a workaround may be to temporarily hook up the drive as internal |
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| 14:31.59 | debian213213 | I'm only getting audio out of the left channel on my laptop when I use the audio port. Speakers work on the left and right channel. This happens on ALL headsets... i've tried 5 or 6... any idea why? |
| 14:32.02 | SynrG | (but you might need special tools to do that, depending on what kind of external case you have) |
| 14:32.28 | qsuscs | debian213213: defective port |
| 14:32.29 | petn-randall | rubidious: Yes, what SynrG said: Some USB-to-S-ATA adapters don't pass through all ATA commands. It could be that yours is affected, too. |
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| 14:32.55 | rubidious | yes this is my theory |
| 14:32.59 | SynrG | rubidious: and if that is your problem, switching to another tool won't help |
| 14:33.01 | rubidious | but I was hoping |
| 14:33.10 | rubidious | yeah I'm trying to rule it out |
| 14:33.25 | rubidious | just a sec I had gparted running it |
| 14:33.28 | SynrG | rubidious: need torx to open up the case? |
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| 14:33.42 | rubidious | haha |
| 14:33.43 | rubidious | I may |
| 14:33.48 | rubidious | that's the next step |
| 14:33.57 | SynrG | in my case i needed a torx variant with six points instead of 5 :P |
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| 14:34.15 | softplay | hello this http://paste.debian.net/95682/ is my wlan0 ifconfig can you help me pairing the wireless connection with my router? it doesn't seem to work now |
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| 14:34.36 | SynrG | usb performance sucks anyway. and inside was a lovely 680G WD Blue |
| 14:34.50 | SynrG | (bought it several years back for $50 from walmart :) |
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| 14:35.00 | SynrG | so i'm happy to have "liberated" that drive |
| 14:35.33 | somiaj | softplay: how have you tried to configure your interface? Are you wanting to use some tool like network-manager or do it with the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
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| 14:35.44 | petn-randall | SynrG: Doesn't suck if it's USB 3.0 :) |
| 14:35.50 | softplay | i was using network manager |
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| 14:36.06 | softplay | but i can even use the etc network interface |
| 14:36.08 | SynrG | petn-randall: ahh ... no usb3 years ago ;) |
| 14:36.10 | softplay | if it works |
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| 14:36.27 | somiaj | softplay: lets use what you like, would you prefer using the gui that comes with network-manager? |
| 14:36.29 | SynrG | but yeah, not everyone is a pauper buying only trailing-edge stuff like me :p |
| 14:36.36 | rubidious | ok |
| 14:36.38 | rubidious | not frozen |
| 14:36.46 | softplay | i would prefer |
| 14:36.51 | rubidious | http://paste.debian.net/95684/ << full hdparm output petn-randall |
| 14:37.11 | softplay | using network-manager |
| 14:37.25 | rubidious | "notlocked |
| 14:37.26 | SynrG | softplay: so i guess we should see whatever dmesg messages are relevant to when you attempt to connect |
| 14:37.27 | rubidious | notfrozen" |
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| 14:37.44 | somiaj | softplay: first 'cat /etc/network/interfaces' -- do you have any mention of wlan0 in that file? |
| 14:37.50 | softplay | ok then i'll type dmesg |
| 14:38.02 | softplay | ok i'll type cat |
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| 14:38.48 | softplay | no in etc/network interface there is no mention of wlan0 and.. |
| 14:39.19 | greenride | My KDE desktop settings get nuked on every reboot. There was a really easy way to fix this, but I can't seem to remember now. Anyone know? |
| 14:39.23 | somiaj | softplay: so now when you try to connect via network-manager what happens, does it see the network or does network manager not even see the wlan0 device? |
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| 14:39.42 | softplay | SynrG, there are many dmesg regarding the usb |
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| 14:39.49 | softplay | do you need all of them? |
| 14:39.57 | somiaj | greenride: do you logout of kde before you reboot, usually that is when your session is saved. I also think there is a tool (I dont' use kde so I dont' know its name) that will just save your current running session |
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| 14:40.12 | SynrG | softplay: if it's not too big, the whole dmesg output, in case we see anything else relevant. |
| 14:40.14 | softplay | somiaj, it sees the netwoprk device yes |
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| 14:41.10 | somiaj | softplay: but it just won't connect to the network despite you put in the right passphrase? |
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| 14:41.32 | softplay | SynrG, http://paste.debian.net/95685/ |
| 14:41.34 | somiaj | softplay: wifi cards usually require firmware, have you isntalled any non-free firmware? Do you know the chipset of your paticular wifi card? |
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| 14:41.56 | softplay | yes i've installed the firmware of the card |
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| 14:42.10 | softplay | but when i boot a see an error message |
| 14:42.26 | softplay | i know it is a ralink device |
| 14:42.37 | softplay | apt-get install firmaware ralink |
| 14:42.38 | somiaj | softplay: care to tell us the error message, I don't see anything saying the problem in your dmesg, though I see a lot of Call Traces which says you may have other issues to deal with. |
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| 14:43.04 | softplay | issues like? |
| 14:43.15 | SynrG | softplay: could you try it perhaps without your scanner plugged in? |
| 14:43.21 | kaliroot | hello, I have an issue with a debian-based installation |
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| 14:43.26 | SynrG | softplay: that will at least clean up the log ... |
| 14:43.36 | softplay | the scanner is not connected |
| 14:43.38 | kaliroot | it is kali, when I reboot the machine it doesnt go to the gdm |
| 14:43.39 | softplay | :S |
| 14:43.42 | somiaj | kaliroot: this is not the correct place for debian based support. We support debian. If you use kali use their support |
| 14:43.46 | somiaj | !kali |
| 14:43.46 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 14:43.53 | keezi | Hi! I wanna compile _static_, not dinamic binary; I try "./configure" and see Compiler options (CFLAGS) ....... -g -O2 -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-address -fno-strict-overflow Linker options (LIBS) ........... -ldl -lgpm -lidn . Thank you for any hint! |
| 14:44.03 | kaliroot | but I think it is a general problem |
| 14:44.05 | SynrG | softplay: ah, then i just misinterpreted the interspersed 'colord-sane' message as relevant |
| 14:44.09 | rubidious | SynrG: I forgot to add you to my paste: http://paste.debian.net/95684/ |
| 14:44.13 | SynrG | softplay: maybe a bad USB port? try another. |
| 14:44.44 | softplay | ok i'll reboot ant try an other |
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| 14:45.00 | greenride | somiaj: Let me try logging out. That wasn't the solution I recalled, but let me try that. Thanks. |
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| 14:45.45 | SynrG | rubidious: nothing jumps out at me. |
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| 14:46.05 | SynrG | rubidious: google the error? |
| 14:46.17 | rubidious | yeah lots of people, no consensus |
| 14:46.21 | SynrG | sigh |
| 14:46.23 | rubidious | heh |
| 14:46.27 | SynrG | nothing usb-related about the issue? |
| 14:46.30 | rubidious | that's why I'm here \o/ |
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| 14:46.36 | SynrG | fun times |
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| 14:47.01 | SharkMuttleworth | keezi: Read the compiler manual etc. for learning about static binaries |
| 14:47.04 | SynrG | i've used hdparm (aeons ago) just never for this :p |
| 14:47.24 | SynrG | back in the bad old days of DMA issues :p |
| 14:47.33 | keezi | SharkMuttleworth: thank you; I'll try |
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| 14:48.24 | rubidious | SynrG: not as far as I can see (re usb), but I may be looking for the wrong keywords. I did see notes about onboard usb controllers messaing with ATA commands though. |
| 14:48.32 | somiaj | rubidious: what makes you think there is a hidden partition or something like that. |
| 14:48.55 | rubidious | somiaj: it's a wd passport drive, there have been reports |
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| 14:49.20 | rubidious | and the messy errored output from hdparm still says there is a significant HPA.. but I don't know if I can trust those numbers |
| 14:49.28 | softplay | SynrG, somiaj it is still not working |
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| 14:49.47 | softplay | maybe i've to try with /etc/network/interfaces if it works better |
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| 14:50.15 | SynrG | softplay: still not working after trying what? a different USB port? |
| 14:50.30 | softplay | yes a different usb port i've tryied |
| 14:50.34 | softplay | but it's not working |
| 14:50.40 | softplay | still |
| 14:50.49 | SynrG | and you're certain the USB device is good? is it new? |
| 14:50.55 | somiaj | softplay: I doubt the issue is using the cli tools over network-manager. There is something else up with why you are not able to connect and unless we get more info about errors it is hard for ust ot figure out why. |
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| 14:51.09 | softplay | the device was working till two ours ago |
| 14:51.15 | softplay | i don't think that's the problem |
| 14:51.22 | somiaj | softplay: so what changed two hours ago? |
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| 14:51.37 | softplay | i installed the libdvdcss2 |
| 14:51.40 | SynrG | "working" meaning "ever since you installed the firmware" earlier today? or "working" meaning longer term ... |
| 14:51.46 | softplay | i don't think it's related |
| 14:51.49 | ankov | are left-adjoint and /sys/ was widely used. |
| 14:52.05 | softplay | it was working when i installed the formware |
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| 14:52.11 | softplay | firmware* |
| 14:52.17 | SynrG | softplay: and that was just today? |
| 14:52.25 | softplay | for a wile like two our it worked |
| 14:52.27 | SynrG | softplay: so there's no longer term history of this device working on your system. |
| 14:52.37 | softplay | and now the router sees it as connected |
| 14:52.52 | softplay | yes well it was working under windows |
| 14:52.55 | softplay | some time ago |
| 14:53.05 | softplay | then i didn't use it for a while |
| 14:53.11 | somiaj | softplay: so you ahd it working just fine on this debian install and then it stoped. Or it was working under windows but has never worked under debian |
| 14:53.18 | softplay | but it should be ok |
| 14:53.23 | somiaj | softplay: this is a usb wifi card? |
| 14:53.35 | softplay | it worked under debian for a while today |
| 14:53.39 | softplay | then it stopped |
| 14:53.40 | SynrG | softplay: well, i rather suspect those ugly task blocked things have something to do with it. do you have any other USB devices attached? |
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| 14:53.49 | rubidious | welp I guess I'll just give up :x |
| 14:53.57 | softplay | a webcam |
| 14:53.57 | SynrG | softplay: if so, can you test without those other USB devices attached to see if that helps? |
| 14:54.03 | rubidious | maybe open up the case and see if I can connect directly to the stat |
| 14:54.05 | rubidious | sata* |
| 14:54.19 | SynrG | i've seen cases where spurious signals from USB spewed onto the bus confuses the system |
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| 14:54.45 | SynrG | sometimes due to a bad USB port or bad cable |
| 14:54.50 | SynrG | or loose cable |
| 14:54.54 | somiaj | yea those trace calls are saying that the kernel isn't liking something about your hardware |
| 14:55.02 | somiaj | I don't read kernel traces that well though |
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| 14:55.19 | SynrG | it seems to randomly block in one or the other process, both of which have 'usb' in the traceback |
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| 14:56.05 | SynrG | so given your wifi is a usb device, this is highly suspicious |
| 14:56.39 | softplay | so i cannot use the wireless and the webcam at the same time? |
| 14:56.41 | SynrG | btw, there's not only external USB devices to consider but internal |
| 14:56.42 | softplay | that's weird |
| 14:56.47 | softplay | i need them both! |
| 14:56.49 | SynrG | i'm not saying that. |
| 14:56.54 | SynrG | i'm saying that's something to *check* |
| 14:57.05 | softplay | ok ok i'll disconnect the webcam |
| 14:57.08 | softplay | one moment |
| 14:57.40 | somiaj | softplay: your kernel is giving some trace calls due to something funky with usb, it will take some debugging to figure it out which is what SynrG is suggestion with some ideas (well guesses) as what could be the issue |
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| 14:58.07 | somiaj | softplay: did you plug in the webcam before or after the wifi was working? |
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| 14:58.31 | softplay | it has always been plugged in |
| 14:58.52 | softplay | even while it was working before in the morning |
| 14:58.54 | somiaj | softplay: can you try to identify anything that you changed/did differently from teh time it worked to the time it didn't. |
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| 14:59.14 | somiaj | softplay: and just to check I assume other devices are connencting to the wifi router just fine. |
| 14:59.30 | softplay | the only thing that canged was that i installed a new repo |
| 14:59.42 | softplay | the one to see the libdvdcss2 |
| 14:59.44 | somiaj | softplay: can you put the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
| 14:59.49 | softplay | then it stopped working |
| 14:59.56 | softplay | but i do not see any relation |
| 15:00.03 | softplay | ok |
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| 15:01.08 | nezZario | wow man |
| 15:01.15 | nezZario | the debian live builder is pretty badass |
| 15:01.19 | SynrG | softplay: i'm out for a bit. gotta work |
| 15:01.29 | softplay | http://paste.debian.net/95689/ |
| 15:01.36 | softplay | ok SynrG ty anyway |
| 15:01.48 | SynrG | nezZario: thanks. any support question about it, or just gushing? :) |
| 15:02.10 | SynrG | (not directly responsible for the service, but am on the debian-live team) |
| 15:02.28 | nezZario | Well, what is it passing these options to? i.e. it's setup like --binary-images: .. what is it actually passing this to? |
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| 15:02.44 | softplay | somiaj, http://paste.debian.net/95689/ |
| 15:02.48 | SynrG | nezZario: lb config |
| 15:02.52 | nezZario | Would be nice if I could read a manpage on what some of these options are actually doing |
| 15:02.56 | SynrG | nezZario: and then after that, it's running 'lb build' |
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| 15:03.08 | SynrG | nezZario: see the live-manual package. |
| 15:03.19 | SynrG | nezZario: see also http://live.debian.net/manual/stable |
| 15:03.51 | nezZario | ah ok, cool |
| 15:03.52 | somiaj | softplay: okay no major red flags there, and though deb-multimedia is considered a fairly poor quality repo by some, I don't think it is poor ti could have caused such an issue. |
| 15:04.02 | nezZario | thanks.. and thanks for your contributions, whatever they may be :) |
| 15:04.04 | SynrG | nezZario: also see #debian-live @ irc.oftc.net for support |
| 15:04.14 | somiaj | softplay: can you unplug the wifi device then plug it back in and give us the output of dmesg, I want to see what your kernel says about the device. |
| 15:04.30 | SynrG | nezZario: primarily the manual, and minor contributor to the code, plus other odd jobs. |
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| 15:06.17 | softplay | somiaj, http://paste.debian.net/95690/ |
| 15:06.48 | SynrG | nezZario: the builder is quite limited in what it can do, by design. there's a lot more flexibility running the tools directly on your own system. |
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| 15:07.28 | nezZario | I'll have to check it out |
| 15:07.33 | SynrG | hmm, i was going to work but then ... got distracted :) |
| 15:07.46 | nezZario | I was just wanting a really nice USB install |
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| 15:08.11 | SynrG | ok, i'm *really* out. later |
| 15:08.35 | nezZario | thanks again SynrG |
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| 15:08.51 | somiaj | softplay: that is the full output, upload the whole /var/log/messages file I don't even see in that list where you pluged in the usb device |
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| 15:08.59 | somiaj | I just see tons of kernel errors telling me hardware issues |
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| 15:10.27 | OperaGhostkv | hey guys |
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| 15:11.25 | OperaGhostkv | could anyone tell me how to not let debian boot the x server by default ? |
| 15:11.32 | somiaj | !nodm |
| 15:11.33 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 15:11.52 | somiaj | OperaGhostkv: easiest is to do that 'echo false ...' line, or you can remove your displaymanager |
| 15:11.54 | softplay | somiaj, the var/log/message looks the same as dmesg |
| 15:12.05 | softplay | it contains the same lines |
| 15:12.08 | somiaj | softplay: it should have more lines that what you pated, I want you to paste the whole thing |
| 15:12.16 | somiaj | it shoudln't only have 59 lines |
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| 15:12.40 | softplay | the whole thing? |
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| 15:12.46 | softplay | ok |
| 15:12.46 | somiaj | I want at least enough back log so I can see the exact instant you pluged in your usb device |
| 15:12.59 | OperaGhostkv | wow ..great .let me try |
| 15:13.01 | somiaj | adn due to all the errors in it, you may ahve to go back a bit |
| 15:13.02 | helo | i'm trying to find http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/freetds/freetds-common_0.91-4_all.deb |
| 15:13.06 | helo | there is only 0.91-5 |
| 15:13.15 | OperaGhostkv | i am in recovery mode |
| 15:13.19 | somiaj | ,v freetds-common |
| 15:13.20 | judd | Package: freetds-common on i386 -- squeeze: 0.82-7; wheezy: 0.91-2+deb7u1; jessie: 0.91-5; sid: 0.91-5 |
| 15:13.20 | helo | anyone know where i can find it? |
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| 15:14.03 | somiaj | helo: depends what version of debian you are running, but it seems that 0.91 is the version available in debian |
| 15:14.07 | markvandenborre | hi! I'm looking at buying a new server |
| 15:14.08 | OperaGhostkv | looks like x server crashed after I updrade |
| 15:14.09 | markvandenborre | http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5017/SYS-5017C-TF.cfm |
| 15:14.24 | somiaj | OperaGhostkv: the server or do you use non-free drivers like nvidia? |
| 15:14.28 | markvandenborre | and I really want a decent hardware raid controller in there |
| 15:14.35 | helo | somiaj: i have an old not-internet-connected sid install here that really wants 0.91-4 |
| 15:14.37 | OperaGhostkv | ati driver |
| 15:14.45 | markvandenborre | any suggestions on what to pick? |
| 15:14.56 | helo | installing 0.91-5 will take an inordinate amount of effort due to other cascading upgrades of dependencies |
| 15:15.08 | somiaj | helo: snapshot.debian.org -- you can go find prevrious versions there |
| 15:15.13 | helo | thanks |
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| 15:15.26 | ctmjr | markvandenborre: ask in #hardware |
| 15:15.26 | petn-randall | markvandenborre: Depends on what features you need and how deep your pockets are. |
| 15:15.32 | somiaj | helo: sid is a bad choice for a non internetnet connected machine, you should really be running stable since it will have easier methods to get software on it (: |
| 15:15.32 | OperaGhostkv | how do i uninstall the non free driver ? |
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| 15:15.45 | softplay | somiaj, isn't it a bad thing to paste in a public place every log in your system? |
| 15:16.12 | somiaj | OperaGhostkv: I don' tknow are you using the non-free driver, how did you install it? |
| 15:16.24 | somiaj | softplay: I just want /var/log/messages -- I just want more output than you showed me |
| 15:16.47 | somiaj | softplay: I don't htink there is much of a risk with that as it should only tell info about the hardware/kernel on your machine |
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| 15:17.03 | somiaj | softplay: again from what you have shown me, I think you have bad hardware. Either the usb device or the usb bus on your machine |
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| 15:17.34 | somiaj | OperaGhostkv: again fi you want to use the non-free driver we should just fix the issue instead of uninstalling it |
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| 15:18.00 | helo | somiaj: at the time it was the only option for armhf iirc |
| 15:19.00 | somiaj | helo: ahh anyways sid is a moving target, versions today may not be the same in a week, but snapshot.debian.org is useful if you need a version that was removed from the main mirrors |
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| 15:19.32 | markvandenborre | petn-randall: I'm looking for something really basic |
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| 15:19.43 | markvandenborre | just raid 1 over 2 sata disks will do |
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| 15:20.09 | markvandenborre | is there anything that plays nice with debian or serial console in terms of monitoring tools? |
| 15:20.16 | SharkMuttleworth | Budget? More or less than $1000? |
| 15:20.25 | thedeeno | I'm not building anything on this system. To do I need /usr/lib/gcc or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu? |
| 15:20.57 | markvandenborre | SharkMuttleworth: a few hundred for the raid controller I guess... |
| 15:21.09 | somiaj | thedeeno: yes you need libs, because other binaries link against the libaries |
| 15:21.20 | helo | somiaj: yeah, it isn't ideal for a system like this, but luckily it has been very functional |
| 15:21.23 | somiaj | thedeeno: what you don't need are the headers to the libs or the -dev version of the lib apcakges. |
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| 15:21.49 | somiaj | thedeeno: dpkg -S /usr/lib/gcc (find a lib that installs something there, anyone will dor). |
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| 15:21.52 | SharkMuttleworth | Depends, are you using an alternative LibC? |
| 15:22.15 | somiaj | thedeeno: run 'aptitude why packagename' will tell you why that packge is installed, you most likely find that a pice of software you want needs that libary to function. |
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| 15:23.10 | thedeeno | somiaj: ok, great! I was just surprised to see these still around. I thought they were just for actually building static binaries. Didn't think they were still needed. Are those headers normally stored along side them? Or are they in another place? |
| 15:23.51 | somiaj | usually headers are put into 'include' directory, they are different than the actual shared opbject (libfoo.so) that is what the other packages are linking against |
| 15:24.05 | somiaj | debian doesn't distribute static linked binaries, but dynamic linked, and that is why you need the libs |
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| 15:26.21 | somiaj | thedeeno: in general you do not want to mess with any of the libaries that debian installs with it's packages. You can use apt/dpkg to add/rmove the software packages and it will clean it up if you have extra software you find you don't need |
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| 15:26.40 | thedeeno | cool, just trying to make this image as small as possible |
| 15:26.58 | thedeeno | and I wasn't sure if a package was being left around even though I apt-get removed it |
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| 15:27.16 | somiaj | thedeeno: dpkg -S /usr/lib/gcc -- I think you can safely remove any of those packages, I didn't see any core ones on my system. The other direcotry will have tons of libs you will need |
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| 15:27.59 | somiaj | deborphan is a nice tool if you want to try to search for extra uneeded libs on your system too |
| 15:28.01 | thedeeno | so /usr/lib/gcc does seem like extra then? |
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| 15:28.51 | somiaj | thedeeno: again if there is stuff in it it is because a debian package installed it there. I told you the command to list all the debian packages that installed stuff in that directory. If you don't need the packges you can remove them. |
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| 15:29.53 | thedeeno | neat, that's interesting. What's the right procedure to actually remove a package? Is `apt-get remove --purge <pkg>`, `apt-get autoremove`? |
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| 15:30.10 | thedeeno | the right way? |
| 15:30.12 | somiaj | thedeeno: that will work, double check what it is removing, make sure it isn't taking out something you want |
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| 15:30.24 | somiaj | thedeeno: if it takes out something you want, then of course you don't want to remove it. |
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| 15:30.48 | thedeeno | I'll checkout deborphan too |
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| 15:33.56 | sandman13 | converting .rpm to .deb? do we need to do that? |
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| 15:38.45 | thedeeno | somiaj: is there a way to see which packages depend on a certain package? |
| 15:39.07 | thedeeno | I want to see if this gcc was installed by a package that I need |
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| 15:40.06 | jordanm | thedeeno: apt-cache rdepends |
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| 15:40.26 | Nik05 | thedeeno aptitude why gcc |
| 15:40.39 | Nik05 | but that doesnt always works |
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| 15:40.45 | thedeeno | facepalm |
| 15:40.50 | thedeeno | ok yeah they told me that earlier |
| 15:40.57 | thedeeno | thanks everyone! |
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| 15:50.44 | somiaj | thedeeno: you can also just try to rmove it with apt-get --purge remove foo, and look at what other packages also get removed. It won't remove things unti you actually say yes |
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| 15:50.56 | somiaj | thedeeno: or add a --dry-run to it, and it won't do anything but print out what it would do |
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| 15:53.14 | mint0r | hello |
| 15:54.02 | mint0r | anything new going on with firewalls? iptables, ipchains, nmiptablechain0rs? |
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| 15:54.22 | cjdavies | Can I use rssh/rush/etc. to allow a user only to proxy Web traffic using 'ssh -D' & nothing else? |
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| 15:55.37 | mtn | mint0r: which version of debian? |
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| 15:56.05 | mint0r | lenny |
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| 15:56.22 | mtn | mint0r: not going to be anything new in lenny, ever again ;) |
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| 15:56.32 | somiaj | nothing new has gone on with lenny since it hit it's eol over a year ago, except for all the new security exploits found |
| 15:57.35 | mint0r | raq4i hardware (for the win) |
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| 15:58.44 | mint0r | mtn, how about a reguar straigh html nginx server with all the other ports protected by another firewall? |
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| 15:58.59 | mtn | mint0r: not my area of expertise |
| 15:58.59 | mint0r | will lenny have life? |
| 15:59.25 | mint0r | just want my stupid server to run. |
| 15:59.38 | mint0r | it's only 24 watts |
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| 16:01.49 | mint0r | much love then mtn. I'll sort it |
| 16:02.50 | somiaj | mint0r: just realize lenny has no security support, has been moved to archive.debian.org and is most likley vulnable to lots of remote exploits. You may want a plan to move off of lenny |
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| 16:03.41 | mint0r | make it a bbs ;o) |
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| 16:04.08 | mint0r | a static web page (for tools) and a bbs |
| 16:04.18 | mint0r | that might work |
| 16:04.37 | mint0r | open the telnet port |
| 16:04.42 | mint0r | heh heh |
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| 16:05.51 | mint0r | welp, that's spooky future, then maybe I do a cidr ban using /8's of whole web, only allow in updates, dns, and IP of bbs user |
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| 16:06.32 | mint0r | where bbs isn't decided but hey ansi looks pretty cool again! |
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| 16:07.09 | mint0r | filter out ipv6, and boom might work |
| 16:07.32 | mint0r | open the doom ports! |
| 16:07.44 | mint0r | j/k |
| 16:07.57 | mint0r | kidding, no open the doom ports |
| 16:08.05 | mint0r | no netbui |
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| 16:08.53 | mint0r | no novel, and no Close-Up |
| 16:09.38 | mint0r | http to fts001 |
| 16:09.47 | mtn | mint0r: if you don't have a debian support question you should go to #debian-offtopic or some other channel for general chat |
| 16:09.58 | mint0r | okay your right, peace mtn |
| 16:10.10 | mint0r | thanks |
| 16:10.20 | lopez_ | Hello the then installing updates can not I connect to the internet, but the connections are active |
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| 16:11.14 | lopez_ | This desktop is on the same network |
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| 16:11.52 | somiaj | lopez_: I am having trouble understanding your issue and question. |
| 16:12.43 | lopez_ | sorry my english is bad. |
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| 16:13.36 | lopez_ | after install updates, i do not hacve internet acces |
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| 16:14.04 | somiaj | lopez_: updates from what version of debian to what new version of debian? |
| 16:14.20 | somiaj | lopez_: was one of those a kernel update, do you need speical firmware and the likes for your internet connenction? |
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| 16:18.36 | petr0id | hiya |
| 16:19.06 | somiaj | lopez_: if you would like, what language to you speak better there are other support channels that may use your language. |
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| 16:20.03 | lopez_ | I had no solution, no problem reinstall system again |
| 16:20.18 | kazuhira | I think it'd be useful to prompt users if they'd like to make a gpg key or import one on the install process for debian. |
| 16:21.04 | petn-randall | markvandenborre: Why not use mdadm to create a software RAID? Costs nothing, and serves the purpose. |
| 16:21.12 | kazuhira | if I wanted to write this code and send it in, how would I do that? |
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| 16:22.55 | stew | kazuhira: encouraging people to make more copies of their gpg credentials sounds like a bad idea |
| 16:23.07 | stew | kazuhira: what is the use some brand new gpg key? |
| 16:23.20 | petn-randall | kazuhira: I see that you want to promote gpg, which is a good thing. Unfortunately the debian installer is a bad place to put it, since it doesn't really deal with any user settings. |
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| 16:25.50 | kazuhira | petn-randall: oh ok. that makes sense. the install is simply for installing the system not for user preferences, I see. |
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| 16:26.49 | kazuhira | I'll have to see how else I could promote gpg use. |
| 16:26.51 | stew | I have lots of debian systems, almost none of them have any business holding my gpg credentials |
| 16:27.24 | kazuhira | stew: that's up to the user though typically. if you don't want to use gpg then you don't need to though. |
| 16:27.32 | stew | i DO want to use gpg |
| 16:27.46 | kazuhira | but not for every machine. I gotcha |
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| 17:01.58 | blocky | I'm running wheezy and i ran apt-get upgrade, and apt is hanging during "Setting up linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64" at this step of generating grub.cfg... Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 17:02.23 | petn-randall | blocky: How long did you wait? |
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| 17:03.23 | swordsmanz | is lmms included in latest testing ? |
| 17:03.43 | mtn | swordsmanz: http://packages.debian.org |
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| 17:04.46 | swordsmanz | it says it can find it there but when i try to apt it down its not |
| 17:05.33 | centrx | swordsmanz, lmms was removed from testing because of a serious bug. A new version was uploaded yesterday to unstable. http://packages.qa.debian.org/lmms |
| 17:05.54 | mtn | swordsmanz: testing is supported on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 17:06.20 | centrx | swordsmanz, You can see if the unstable package will work in testing, or you can wait probably five days. |
| 17:06.23 | blocky | petn-randall: a few minutes, how long could it take? |
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| 17:06.57 | swordsmanz | thanks centrx |
| 17:07.41 | petn-randall | blocky: If you have a slow machine it could take a few minutes, shouldn't take longer, though. On another terminal, do you see a high cpu load or lots of I/O with htop/iotop? |
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| 17:09.40 | swordsmanz | if its not back in repos in a few days i will just do a compile myself |
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| 17:10.00 | centrx | swordsmanz, It would be better to use the package from unstable if it works |
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| 17:10.55 | blocky | petn-randall: i don't have either installed atm, it's a core 2 duo, shouldn't be too slow |
| 17:11.26 | petn-randall | blocky: You can abort it ctrl+c, and then hopefully fix it somehow. |
| 17:12.03 | blocky | petn-randall: I've done that several times |
| 17:12.31 | blocky | what is the script doing? |
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| 17:23.38 | slawuta | Hi, someone in the family just bought a used Dell with a Pentium 4 D CPU (32bit!). How is Debian's i386 support ? |
| 17:23.59 | mtn | slawuta: hunky dorry fine |
| 17:24.19 | mtn | slawuta: acutally, hmm. i386? not sure. |
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| 17:24.29 | slawuta | Does it work without major pain in the ass ? |
| 17:24.30 | centrx | slawuta, It will work fine |
| 17:25.02 | slawuta | Like some crucial software only being in 64 bit version ? |
| 17:25.16 | centrx | slawuta, Debian supports many architectures and the i386 architecture has the most equivalency to amd64 |
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| 17:25.35 | centrx | slawuta, slawuta 99.9% of packages and perhaps 100% are in i386 |
| 17:25.43 | slawuta | I could try, but I have a baad feeling about this. |
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| 17:25.45 | woshty | slawuta: Depends on what is crucial, but I only know of software that is still only avail as 32bit |
| 17:26.04 | centrx | slawuta, A Pentium 4 is really not that old |
| 17:26.14 | centrx | slawuta, Nothing to worry about |
| 17:26.15 | slawuta | No games. Just browser, printer, video players etc. HOme use. |
| 17:26.52 | galex-713 | Hello |
| 17:27.11 | galex-713 | Is there a way to use Photorec to backup mails? |
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| 17:27.27 | slawuta | How is the future ? How long is i386 architecture probably going to be supported in Debian ? |
| 17:27.27 | galex-713 | I mean, not like mbox, just one-mail-per-file |
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| 17:28.32 | centrx | slawuta, It will definitely be in Jessie, which should be released in 2015 and be supported for at least three, probably five years |
| 17:29.05 | centrx | slawuta, So it should be supported until at least 2020 and I doubt even then that it would be removed since the burden of maintaining it alongside amd64 is probably pretty low |
| 17:29.25 | somiaj | slawuta: well if you figure out how tell the future what are the next weeks lotery numbers? I have seen no announcment of trying to retire i386, my guess is if they ever announce support for it will be years before it is gone. |
| 17:29.31 | qsuscs | and debian still supports architectures such as sparc64 |
| 17:29.36 | woshty | centrx: And there is lots and lots of hardware around. |
| 17:29.36 | qsuscs | and, i think, pa-risc? |
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| 17:29.49 | zykotick9 | centrx: i'd say that unix-date issue does put an end-date on i386 (i don't remember when that is though) |
| 17:29.56 | centrx | 2032 |
| 17:30.00 | qsuscs | 2038 |
| 17:30.20 | centrx | Even better |
| 17:30.25 | somiaj | yea debian wants to support new hardware as well as old. I think debian can still be installed on pentium 1's, not sure about 486 (but there is some old arch that recntally would not work on newer kernels) |
| 17:30.30 | zykotick9 | so a few years left ;) |
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| 17:31.15 | qsuscs | somiaj: support for the 80386 was dropped in linux 3.8 (or was it 3.2?) |
| 17:31.29 | somiaj | like I think allthought most are compiled for i386 I thougt there was a few core things that require i586 or newer |
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| 17:31.57 | somiaj | qsuscs: yea something like that, wonder now many 80386 machines are still out there running |
| 17:32.12 | qsuscs | they can still run older kernels, or not even linux at all |
| 17:32.45 | somiaj | I think i386 was the first to be able to deal with linux, 286 was the one that was never supported. |
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| 17:33.03 | somiaj | well that and eariler |
| 17:33.13 | qsuscs | yes, linus torvalds wrote linux using all the new stuff of the i386 |
| 17:33.34 | qsuscs | (actually, he said that it is completely unportable. today, it runs even on crazy stuff such as ibm system z) |
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| 17:35.24 | gjvc | the only problem i've had with debian is on IBM 3950 M2 machines |
| 17:35.53 | Walex | i used to run System V.2 (full UNIX) on 16-bit 286, like Xenix (Microsoft's UNIX distro) and Linux had an MMU-less version for pre-386 machines |
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| 17:38.53 | tharkun | Good $date, I came into standstill with cups and jessie. It does not have cups-polld wich is used to browse for servers/printers on other subnetworks. What magic does cups need now to print on different subnetworks when above version 1.5 (currently on stable)? |
| 17:39.45 | opfokdo | when watching flash videos using flashplugin-nonfree, where are the media files cashed, nowadays? Can't find it under ~/.mozilla or /tmp |
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| 17:40.50 | somiaj | opfokdo: there is a generic cache dir somewhere I saw, I think it is there |
| 17:41.24 | petn-randall | tharkun: jessie is supported on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 17:41.47 | zykotick9 | opfokdo: fyi, for a while now, flash deletes the file as soon as it's started downloading... |
| 17:42.08 | somiaj | opfokdo: hmm I didn't see it in cache, maybe .adobe/Flash_Player |
| 17:42.27 | zykotick9 | somiaj: see my message above |
| 17:42.28 | tharkun | petn-randall: Thanks |
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| 17:43.05 | somiaj | zykotick9: ahh I just moved up my system onto an ssd and cleaned out 10 years of clutter in my home dir, amybe it was really old cache files I found |
| 17:43.21 | nmschulte | I want to alias (in Bash) `git` to `g`, but I want to keep the tab completion. Is that possible? |
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| 17:43.51 | opfokdo | somiaj: ~/.adobe has a small size on my system |
| 17:43.54 | RafaelK | hello folks |
| 17:43.55 | somiaj | nmschulte: does git have special tab completion hooks? |
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| 17:44.12 | opfokdo | zykotick9: the file might not be deleted as long as the video is playing in the browser :) |
| 17:44.21 | somiaj | opfokdo: yea I must have had very old cache files in there but I deleted it when I moved it, I rember I did have a large cache somehwere |
| 17:44.25 | somiaj | opfokdo: or it is just loaded in memeory |
| 17:44.30 | nmschulte | somiaj: In Bash, if I type git<tab>, tab completion works as you might expect. |
| 17:44.32 | RafaelK | does somebody know which is the root script for bash completion on wheezy ? |
| 17:44.58 | opfokdo | somiaj, zykotick9: strange... the file must remain somewhere! |
| 17:45.01 | somiaj | nmschulte: so you want tab completiong to work on git-foo binaries as well? |
| 17:45.07 | zykotick9 | opfokdo: in correct, you can copy the deleted file, out of proc somehow - so long as the browser is still open. but it'd deleted immidiately. |
| 17:45.13 | blocky | anyone know what this cifs error means? mount error(20): Not a directory |
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| 17:45.41 | nmschulte | somiaj: correct, for both the bash `g` alias, and the regular `git` binary. |
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| 17:46.02 | Walex | blocky: that's not a 'cifs' error, it seems just a mount error. |
| 17:46.18 | somiaj | nmschulte: why not just try it out, you can just run the alias command in your current shell and if you dont' like it remove it |
| 17:46.19 | Walex | blocky: is the mountpoint a directory? Is the mounted path a directory? |
| 17:46.38 | somiaj | nmschulte: it should work, but don't expect g-foo to be an alias fo git-foo unless you also make that alias |
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| 17:47.04 | blocky | Walex: the mountpoint is a directory, the mounted path is //172.16.0.119/Downloading, which is listed when I do smbclient -L |
| 17:47.15 | RafaelK | why ignores /usr/sbin/jk_chrootsh the ~/.profile files from jailed users? |
| 17:47.23 | opfokdo | zykotick9: can real file remain under /proc ? |
| 17:47.31 | opfokdo | *files |
| 17:47.34 | nmschulte | somiaj: I'm a bit confused. I've done: `alias g='git'` in a Bash shell. the alias works as expected, but I get no tab completion. |
| 17:47.37 | somiaj | blocky: it could be they are just sharing a file not sharing a directory, I think windows share allowed this |
| 17:47.57 | somiaj | nmschulte: what od you mean no tab completion....what are you expecting to be completed |
| 17:48.00 | nmschulte | somiaj: I should note that when I invoke git-pull, I do `git pull ...` |
| 17:48.07 | Walex | blocky: check the the system log |
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| 17:48.29 | Walex | blocky: but I would check twice both aspects. |
| 17:48.34 | nmschulte | somiaj: tab completion for many things: to tell me about the various command line options, as well as repository specific bits for those options (e.g. branch/tag names). |
| 17:48.43 | somiaj | nmschulte: I did the exact command you put there, when I type g<tab> I get all 111 commands that start with g on my system |
| 17:48.59 | nmschulte | somiaj: when I say no tab completion, I mean no git specific tab completion for the g alias to git. |
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| 17:49.15 | somiaj | nmschulte: okay this is what I wanted to know, alrighty you will have to change the tab completion hooks to triger on g |
| 17:49.43 | blocky | hmm i think maybe it was a file |
| 17:49.45 | nmschulte | somiaj: I figured something like that, but I'm unfamiliar with bash completion; hence our long winded convo. ;) |
| 17:49.46 | somiaj | nmschulte: check /etc/bash_completion.d/ |
| 17:49.50 | blocky | i've spent about six hours on this lol |
| 17:50.09 | somiaj | nmschulte: well i wasn't sure if you wanted the stnadard shell competion or specific completion for git, hence my list of questions |
| 17:50.57 | nmschulte | somiaj: yep, my bad on not being clear up front. |
| 17:50.58 | somiaj | nmschulte: I personally don't use specilized program specific tab completion so you'll have to do some research but hopefuly that works |
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| 17:51.22 | nmschulte | somiaj: there's a bit of indirection in the scripts, but it's straight-forward. I should be able to figure it out. |
| 17:51.43 | nmschulte | worse coming to worst: I can always just type git when I need tab completion, and use g for my shortcuts. |
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| 18:01.56 | yei5foo9 | Anyone know why Amarok freezes when organizing files? Is that a known bug or what= |
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| 18:06.55 | pederindi | Hi! I'm trying to get .deb of this package, but I do not know how to do it :) https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gtkterm |
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| 18:07.22 | wols | pederindi: you can download it right there |
| 18:08.02 | wols | pederindi: which architecture of debian do you run? you can scroll down to "download gtkterm" and click on the one you need there on the left |
| 18:09.25 | pederindi | wols: ooh! true, when I have the page with the mirrors I felt confused like: only I can download with apt-get ?? No no... it's ok, thanks |
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| 18:12.40 | pederindi | so, if gtkterm is working in Wheezy, It should have a critical bug, and that's why is not included? |
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| 18:14.15 | wols | or orphaned. probably left to die by upstream. not necessarily a bug |
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| 18:14.27 | wols | e.g. the switch from gnome2 to gnome3 for example |
| 18:15.05 | Megaf | hi all, whats the apt-get command line option to tell it not to install suggestions and recommendations? |
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| 18:16.06 | stmiller | Megaf: --no-install-recommends |
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| 18:16.23 | Megaf | Thanks a million stmiller |
| 18:16.44 | Megaf | I was trying without-recommends and no-recommends |
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| 18:17.46 | Megaf | apt-get install git-all qgit --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests |
| 18:17.57 | Megaf | still installing suggestions |
| 18:18.50 | pederindi | wols: but in jessie is included again :) |
| 18:19.04 | pederindi | wols: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gtkterm |
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| 18:19.38 | ScottE | Megaf: Maybe it works when you put those flags in the right place in your command line? |
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| 18:21.30 | Megaf | ScottE: try installing the git-all package without installing apache |
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| 18:22.09 | Megaf | actually I dont need that package, so nevermind |
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| 18:26.46 | alice|wl | hello, I have a debian 6.0.9 and discovered a tmpfile like this: tmpfs 4.0G 0 4.0G 0% /lib/init/rw does this mean 4GB of ram are unused? I think the disk is created by checkroot.sh. root /dev/mapper/host-root |
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| 18:27.14 | RafaelK | has somebody experience with jailkit here? |
| 18:27.24 | asturel | alice|wl use 5% |
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| 18:27.31 | asturel | seems like u use 0byte of it so no :D |
| 18:29.50 | alice|wl | asturel: I m not sure how to change that. the tmpfs seems to be autocreated on boot. I found the line in /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh: PROGRESS_FILE=`mktemp -p /lib/init/rw` |
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| 18:31.04 | asturel | why do u want to remove |
| 18:31.30 | alice|wl | because the ram is full |
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| 18:32.26 | abrotman | it should be full |
| 18:32.31 | abrotman | that's how it's supposed to work |
| 18:32.36 | abrotman | !free ram |
| 18:32.36 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
| 18:33.42 | tiekookeit | when you see the output of 'free -m' you should be aware if chached ram and free ram are too low |
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| 18:34.01 | tiekookeit | it means you are to run out of memory |
| 18:35.11 | tiekookeit | I have 4gb ram, 2gb cached and 900mb free, it means I can freem 2.9gb for programas if needed |
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| 18:38.31 | SynrG | alice|wl: are you trying to debug a different problem for which "ram is full" was your theory? if so, what is that problem? |
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| 18:39.20 | abrotman | tiekookeit: that's fine also .. the problem is when you start swapping excessively |
| 18:39.53 | tiekookeit | if you linux box start to swap dude, switch to windows |
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| 18:40.06 | abrotman | that's possibly the dumbest thing I've heard today |
| 18:40.46 | tiekookeit | linux can swap, but I dont think kernel dev consider this an option \o/ |
| 18:41.15 | abrotman | SynrG: did they pass that CoC thing yet? |
| 18:41.21 | alice|wl | what I wanted to know is if the 4GB tmpfs is using 4G of my 8G ram |
| 18:41.26 | SynrG | tiekookeit: it's quite easy to give linux enough work to make it swap. and there's nothing wrong if that happens (other than if i need to do that work, i should go buy more ram) |
| 18:41.30 | tiekookeit | when linux start to swap it seems to be that all resours are target to swap |
| 18:42.20 | SynrG | abrotman: https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_002 |
| 18:42.26 | tiekookeit | swap on linux is not an option |
| 18:42.27 | SynrG | voting period ends in 2 days |
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| 18:42.33 | alice|wl | SynrG: and yes, I m debugging random freezes also. why? |
| 18:42.45 | abrotman | tiekookeit: please stop making things up, it's not helpful |
| 18:42.54 | SynrG | alice|wl: no, it is not. the ram isn't used unless ... it's used |
| 18:42.56 | abrotman | SynrG: just checking to see how nice I have to be :) |
| 18:43.12 | SynrG | abrotman: you know the answer doesn't change whether it passes or not :) |
| 18:43.49 | abrotman | \o/ |
| 18:43.56 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.00 | abrotman | \ |
| 18:44.07 | abrotman | oh .. he was hit by the train |
| 18:44.10 | SynrG | alice|wl: so you think the random freezes have to do with not enough ram? probably not, then. |
| 18:44.38 | abrotman | random freezes sounds more like wonky hardware |
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| 18:45.04 | alice|wl | SynrG: the server is indeed swapping and I saw loads beyond 30. yet nothing related, ram changed and checked |
| 18:45.10 | SynrG | alice|wl: check dmesg for suspicious messages |
| 18:45.18 | SynrG | ah, ok |
| 18:45.26 | alice|wl | it runs vservers |
| 18:45.34 | SynrG | the ramdisk isn't contributing. |
| 18:45.48 | alice|wl | cool, good to know :) thx |
| 18:46.27 | SynrG | loads beyond 30, huh? under-provisioned web server? |
| 18:46.54 | SynrG | buggy web app? |
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| 18:47.10 | SynrG | checked your logs to see how much use it's getting? |
| 18:47.24 | alice|wl | the mail vserver takes most resources doing clamav |
| 18:47.36 | SynrG | ah |
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| 18:49.24 | Walex | alice|wl: if your system freezes it can be due to extremely bad defaults in the Linux kernel parameters for the page cache, the elevator, the most popular filesystems. Even Linus Torvalds has complained about his desktop freezing because of that., |
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| 18:50.00 | Walex | alice|wl: alternatively it could be paging if your workload does not fit in RAM, but often that is rather less likely. |
| 18:51.16 | alice|wl | kernel is 2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64 |
| 18:51.17 | Walex | alice|wl: if your mail VMs have disks on "sparse" files ("thing-provisioned", "growable"), good luck. |
| 18:51.37 | Walex | alice|wl: ahhh VServer not VMs. That's a lot better. |
| 18:52.17 | sparky4 | using 3.12 bpo kernel from wheezy backports |
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| 18:52.41 | Walex | alice|wl: 'iostat -dkx 1' (add option 'z' if supported) will make clear what is going on. |
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| 18:53.24 | sparky4 | sigh |
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| 18:54.31 | Walex | alice|wl: in general to reduce IO-related freezes: specify much smaller values of "dirty" pages in memory, not more than around 1 second worth of IO, switch to the 'deadline' elevator, and don't use 'data=ordered' with 'ext3' (or probably also 'ext4'). |
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| 18:55.28 | Walex | alice|wl: in several cases using RAID6 sets can case huge RMW rates (the wider the set the worse). |
| 18:56.07 | Walex | correction: rather than "don't use 'data=ordered'" I should have written "use 'data=writeback' and ensure barriers are supported". |
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| 19:01.18 | alice|wl | sounds interesting :) |
| 19:01.41 | Walex | alice|wl: have you tried that 'iostat' line? |
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| 19:03.52 | alice|wl | yes, atm the load is cool. iostat has await between 9 an 90. I ll pastebin |
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| 19:05.07 | alice|wl | http://pastie.org/pastes/9112863/text |
| 19:05.24 | Walex | alice|wl: the key thing in 'iostat' is the % busy vs. the number of KiB/s. if % busy is high, and KiB/s is low, it is doing a lot of random. |
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| 19:06.25 | Walex | alice|wl: uhhhhh that paste is pretty sad... |
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| 19:06.37 | alice|wl | whats the busy indicator? |
| 19:07.08 | Walex | alice|wl: the %util on 'sda' and some others is pretty high with ridiculously low levels of transfer rate. |
| 19:07.10 | alice|wl | it changes a lot, probably hard to make a meaningfull paste :) |
| 19:08.00 | alice|wl | I tried to catch a part with "high" values |
| 19:08.02 | Walex | alice|wl: utils of 30-60% with a few dozen or hundred KiB/s of transfer rate is pretty scary. |
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| 19:09.24 | Walex | alice|wl: that looks like 'iostat' with the '-z' option. How many physical disks have you got and what does the RAID and LVM physical layout look like? |
| 19:10.34 | Walex | expects that the answer is the usual: "we expect to run a workload with a lot of random accesses over lots of data on just a few large slow disks" |
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| 19:11.41 | Walex | works with people who bought racks of 146GB 15k drives to run a mail server. Unusual people :-). |
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| 19:12.06 | alice|wl | :) |
| 19:12.17 | alice|wl | yes, that was -z |
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| 19:12.47 | k4tZz | hey |
| 19:12.58 | k4tZz | someone has figured out my IP address, and I wanna change it |
| 19:13.12 | k4tZz | turning the router off for 10 minutes and releasing the DHCP didn't work |
| 19:13.16 | k4tZz | can i do anything from linux? |
| 19:13.54 | Walex | k4tZz: you can change your IP address on most routers to anything you like, but you may not like the consequences. |
| 19:14.15 | alice|wl | trying to find out about the disks, the vservers use directories on the host / |
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| 19:14.33 | k4tZz | no Walex not like the IP it gives me 192.168 |
| 19:14.42 | k4tZz | I mean the one that I can phone home with |
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| 19:15.11 | Walex | alice|wl: 'lsscsi', 'fdisk -l /dev/sd?', 'cat /proc/mdstat', 'pvs', 'vgs', 'lvs' |
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| 19:15.49 | Walex | k4tZz: cutting a long story short you need to talk with your ISP in most cases. |
| 19:16.09 | k4tZz | :( |
| 19:16.24 | k4tZz | my phone service is cut off |
| 19:16.28 | alice|wl | pvs: /dev/dm-0 host lvm2 a- 297.62g 0 |
| 19:16.56 | Walex | k4tZz: your Internet provider, not your phone provider. |
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| 19:18.25 | Walex | alice|wl: that does not say a lot and seems incomplete. What's the underlying physical device name? |
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| 19:18.46 | Walex | alice|wl: important "diplomatic" question: did you setup the system? Are you its sysadm? |
| 19:18.52 | k4tZz | what do I ask ? |
| 19:18.55 | k4tZz | in technical terms |
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| 19:19.57 | Walex | k4tZz: you ask them to assign you a dynamic IP address or a different static address, which they may or or may not be possible. |
| 19:20.36 | vinniec | uhm I can not add debports in my repository, the error message says it can not find binary-i386 in the file inrelease |
| 19:21.04 | alice|wl | ValicekB: http://pastie.org/pastes/9112901/text probly worse than you guessed :) |
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| 19:21.51 | zykotick9 | vinniec: debports? do you mean backports? |
| 19:21.58 | alice|wl | I inheritd the system yesterday, want to keep it running for some days while setting up a replacement on the same hardware |
| 19:22.07 | vinniec | no debports |
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| 19:22.35 | alice|wl | Walex: k4tZz ups, wrong higlights |
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| 19:22.42 | vinniec | I wanted to install compiz-gtk which is located on the site of the debian packages |
| 19:23.02 | vinniec | but it is not in standard repo but in debports |
| 19:23.05 | Walex | alice|wl: ahhhhhhhhhhhhh :-) |
| 19:23.31 | alice|wl | so diplomatics are no problem :) |
| 19:23.37 | zykotick9 | vinniec: compiz was removed for a reason. and debports isn't exactly "mainstream" debian. |
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| 19:23.56 | Walex | alice|wl: the system is around 5-7 years old; one of the original drives is still there, 320GB 3.5 SATA drive, very slow. |
| 19:24.07 | vinniec | zykotick9: yep but do not works! |
| 19:24.33 | Walex | alice|wl: the other drive is a replacement drive, 1TB, probably also slow SATA, but at least the data on it is effectively 'short stroked', so a bit better. |
| 19:24.42 | vinniec | how do I add that repository with that problem? |
| 19:24.45 | Walex | alice|wl: |
| 19:24.52 | zykotick9 | vinniec: i'm not shocked. well best of luck. |
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| 19:25.13 | swordsmanz | i honestly don't know why you would want to run compiz |
| 19:25.26 | vinniec | i search in "inrelease" file the word "binary-i386" |
| 19:25.26 | zykotick9 | swordsmanz: i hear that! |
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| 19:26.00 | swordsmanz | boons ooh look glitter it actively hinders the functioning of the box |
| 19:26.00 | vinniec | but it is not here |
| 19:26.22 | swordsmanz | beyond* |
| 19:26.32 | Walex | alice|wl: RAID1 is good, pretty good, love it, but you have a workload with significant writing, so the whole system runs at the speed of the slowest drive on writes. |
| 19:26.45 | vinniec | it seems that the i386 is not included |
| 19:27.26 | swordsmanz | in raid 1 do you still get a boost when reading ? |
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| 19:28.36 | Walex | swordsmanz: depends, often not. It is a complicated subject. |
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| 19:29.17 | Walex | swordsmanz: but if there is a boost when reading to be had, Linux MD RAID is one of the very few RAID implementations tha actually does parallel reads (again, when it makes sense). |
| 19:29.24 | vinniec | but I do that if I want to install compiz ? |
| 19:29.24 | vinniec | I have lost all day thinking that it is in repository but I can not install ? |
| 19:29.46 | bhundven | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mqyWmQJs |
| 19:29.55 | sandman13 | why i am getting this error? is it a bug?: http://imgur.com/d1HoiJW,hz4iLi3 (two images) |
| 19:30.05 | stack | hi , has someone managed to get nvidia drivers (with bumblebee) on 3.15 ? |
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| 19:30.41 | bhundven | seems /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal is a part of apt, but I don't see why this script needs to be ran with make-kpkg |
| 19:30.44 | swordsmanz | vinniec any experienced computer user will tell you that installing compiz is a waste of your energyy however I'm sure there are plenty of binaries on the internetz |
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| 19:31.03 | Walex | alice|wl: 'md0' is obviously '/boot'. 'md1' is obviously 'dm-0'/'host'. |
| 19:31.35 | vinniec | swordsmanz: but package is in repository |
| 19:32.00 | Walex | alice|wl: one of your many problems is that there is quite a bit of write traffic on 'dm-1' which probable is 'root', and that likely is lo traffic. |
| 19:32.14 | Walex | log traffic is pretty much a killer. |
| 19:32.32 | alice|wl | yes, dm-1 is / dm-2 is /srv wich has the vserver directories |
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| 19:32.52 | vinniec | https://packages.debian.org/sid/compiz-gtk why this package is unofficial? |
| 19:33.16 | gentwo | i keep getting this message after the upgrade to testing version. jessie... " followed this"" http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/install-proprietary-nvidia-drivers-from-website-in-jessie-4175493797/ |
| 19:33.18 | Walex | alice|wl: one of the things to check is whether you can cut down the logging or make it asynchronous. |
| 19:33.35 | gentwo | error message is " no screens found!!! |
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| 19:34.25 | alice|wl | Walex: whow, thats very helpfull information so far. Thanks for checking! |
| 19:35.13 | Walex | alice|wl: asynchronous log files are those where the path is prefixd with "-" in '/etc/syslog.conf' |
| 19:35.28 | bhundven | gah, sorry, forgot about #debian-next |
| 19:35.47 | Walex | alice|wl: buffered/asynch log files have some risk of losing log entries, but probably not that bad. |
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| 19:36.21 | gentwo | Walex: could you help me on that no screen found error |
| 19:36.22 | Walex | alice|wl: depending on the filesystems your system uses, defragmenting them may be possible and would probably help. |
| 19:36.54 | vinniec | The package is listed in the website of the packet search, if the debports were not official then had to avoid entering in the website |
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| 19:37.37 | Walex | alice|wl: note that in the 'iostat' you pasted there is no traffic on 'dm-2', that is 'srv', and most is on 'dm-3'. |
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| 19:38.15 | alice|wl | I m not sure about dm-0 also |
| 19:38.24 | peeps[work] | hello, i'm trying to downgrade a package due to a bug in the most recent release. the repo is here: http://pkg.jenkins-ci.org/debian/ i tried "apt-get install jenkins=1.559", but it tells me "E: Version '1.559' for 'jenkins' was not found" |
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| 19:38.58 | alice|wl | Walex: //dev/mapper/md1_crypt links to ../dm-0 |
| 19:39.07 | peeps[work] | am i writing the version # wrong somehow? |
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| 19:39.41 | Walex | sandman13: those are probably KDE bugs. |
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| 19:40.04 | Walex | sandman13: Some KDE daemons probably died. usually restarting 'kded4' works. |
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| 19:40.16 | Walex | sandman13: ask for more details in #KDE |
| 19:40.24 | CoruptedMemory | hai |
| 19:40.32 | CoruptedMemory | im very broken |
| 19:40.36 | sandman13 | Walex: restarting works right |
| 19:40.53 | alice|wl | Walex: heres a longer output of iostat -dkxz 1 https://notomorrow.de/~alice/iostat.txt |
| 19:41.00 | Walex | alice|wl: you did not paste most of the config no mention of 'md1_crypt'. |
| 19:41.29 | Walex | alice|wl: if some of the volumes are encrypted it could also be CPu bound.... |
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| 19:43.46 | Walex | alice|wl: if you notice the load on 'sda' and 'sdb' is usually the same as it should be. but 'sdb' has a much much lower %util. |
| 19:44.20 | Walex | alice|wl: probably one easy way to boost stuff a *lot* would be to get a 1TB 7200RPM recent disk and replace 'sda' with it. |
| 19:44.27 | alice|wl | I wrote they are encrypted but yet couldnt the config for it on the running server |
| 19:44.36 | peeps[work] | nevermind, bad package maintainers, i had to wget and dpkg -i instead |
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| 19:44.54 | Walex | alice|wl: if the disks were hot pluggable you can do that without stopping the system. |
| 19:45.33 | Walex | alice|wl: the system would probably go a lot faster if you simply removed 'sda2' from 'md1', but then you would lose redundancy. |
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| 19:46.29 | Walex | alice|wl: 'dmsetup list' *must* tell you everything. |
| 19:47.19 | Walex | alice|wl: I meant 'dmsetup ls' and then 'dmsetup info ...' of the results. |
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| 19:50.32 | alice|wl | updated paste: http://pastie.org/9112964 |
| 19:50.55 | Walex | alice|wl: BTW that the traffic to '/' is logs is because: there is little reading from that. and you mentioned a large tmpfs, so it is unlikely to be '/tmp/'. |
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| 19:52.54 | iateadonut | can you recommend a good I/O testing tool? is there one installed by default on debian? |
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| 19:53.09 | Walex | alice|wl: it is a standard LUKS encrypted volume, details most likely in '/etc/crypttab' and/or '/etc/fstab'. Perhaps '/etc/rc.local'. |
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| 19:54.06 | alice|wl | yes, the tmpfs is in /lib/init/rw but nothing happening there or in /tmp |
| 19:54.07 | Walex | alice|wl: probably the 3 LVs are inside the LUKS volume. |
| 19:54.37 | Walex | alice|wl: can you swap 'sda' with a disk similar to the 'sda' one? |
| 19:55.00 | Walex | alice|wl: can you swap 'sda' with a disk similar to the 'sd*b*' one? |
| 19:55.22 | alice|wl | Walex: yes thats shouldnt be a problem |
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| 19:55.47 | Walex | alice|wl: that may take a downtime of perhaps 10-15 minutes if not notpluggable, and then perhaps 30 minutes of resync of 'md1', during which redundancy would be lost. |
| 19:55.52 | Walex | alice|wl: actually, even better. |
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| 19:56.08 | Walex | alice|wl: most likely your system can hol *3* drives. |
| 19:56.31 | Walex | alice|wl: you don't need to remove 'sda' at all, it would also complicate booting etc. |
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| 19:57.15 | Walex | alice|wl: leave the disks as they are, and add a 3rd 1TB disk. Partition it as 'sdb' ('sfdisk -d' ... 'sfdisk'). |
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| 19:58.20 | Walex | alice|wl: then you can add 'sdc2' to 'md1' as the third RAID1 member. Once the sync is done (things will be slow during it) you can remove from 'md1' the 'sda2' member. |
| 19:58.48 | battlecat | hi |
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| 19:59.16 | Walex | alice|wl: alice|wl then 'md1' would be over 'sdb' and 'sdc'; 'sdb' seems 10x faster than 'sda' which is probably right. |
| 19:59.22 | S4nD3r | Does anybody could help me to install nvidia proprietary driver? I need to install CUDA to programming. I have Wheezy, but it's running nouveau driver in my 540M GeForce. Please! |
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| 20:00.34 | Walex | alice|wl: I have to go in a few minutes. Does the above seem clear? Buffered logs and adding a 3rd disk and switching the RAID1s from being over 'sda' and 'sdb' to being over 'sdb' and 'sdc'? |
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| 20:01.33 | rvsjoen_ | s4nd3r: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 20:01.34 | alice|wl | Walex: got that, will do. thinking a bit about how to get a backup and should I be looking into kernel paging stuff? |
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| 20:01.44 | S4nD3r | Sure |
| 20:01.46 | HiDeHo | hi all just wondering if anyone here is able to help me set up my printer. |
| 20:01.47 | S4nD3r | I tried |
| 20:01.48 | Sbroker | . |
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| 20:02.05 | S4nD3r | I didn't get to be successful |
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| 20:02.28 | Walex | alice|wl: well, adding a 3rd disk gets you a backup: the contents of 'sda' are the backup. |
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| 20:03.04 | alice|wl | oh, yes very well ... |
| 20:03.22 | HiDeHo | i get an error when trying to access settings "Option 'printer-resolution' has '(unknown IPP tag)' and cannot be edited. |
| 20:03.27 | Walex | alice|wl: there seems to be some traffic to the 'swap' LV but does not seem to be enormous. 'vmstat 1' columns 'si' and 'so' will tell you whether there is really significant page swapo traffic. |
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| 20:04.09 | HiDeHo | cant print a test page and having trouble. i have a debian testing setup installed cups and the brother printer drivers from the brother website. |
| 20:04.14 | Walex | alice|wl: but note that with 8GiB memory most likely you don't have a page swap issue. Check how much memory is in use with 'free' or look at 'cat /proc/meminfo' |
| 20:04.20 | HiDeHo | nothing is working. |
| 20:04.30 | HiDeHo | any ideas would be appricated. |
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| 20:05.17 | Walex | alice|wl: note that if you add a 3rd disk, removing the 'sda2' partition from 'md1' once 'sdc2' is synced is vital, because it is 'sda2' that is slowing down everything. |
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| 20:06.15 | Walex | alice|wl: I often used 3-way RAID1 to do backups: add new drive, wait until sync is done, remove drive (warning: this requires some care about snapshotting at the right moment). |
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| 20:06.26 | HiDeHo | this is strange as usually bother gets good printer support |
| 20:07.07 | Walex | alice|wl: gotta go, Bye bye bye... |
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| 20:08.05 | alice|wl | Walex: understood :) thx again |
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| 20:10.57 | HiDeHo | the printer is not working any ideas |
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| 20:11.45 | vinniec | good night |
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| 20:13.09 | nonconvergent | Hey, trying to get into a network switch that I'm trying to setup via the usb console port. Anyone know how I access that? |
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| 20:13.40 | kriebz | nonconvergent: it should show up as a serial port |
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| 20:14.00 | kriebz | tail dmesg, check the output of lsusb, etc |
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| 20:14.19 | nonconvergent | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0846:1100 NetGear, Inc. |
| 20:14.44 | nonconvergent | okay, where do I go from there? shouldn't it get a network address somehow? |
| 20:15.14 | kriebz | it's not ethernet, it's just a USB serial port. like those little molded USB/serial dongles, just it lives inside the switch |
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| 20:15.32 | kriebz | you'd use minicom or screen or somethign to talk to the switch |
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| 20:17.16 | S4nD3r | here |
| 20:17.20 | S4nD3r | i'm back |
| 20:17.53 | kriebz | it's also possible the USB device ID isn't recognized by any drivers, so check dmesg. if it is, it should make a device file like /dev/ttyUSB0 |
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| 20:18.14 | kriebz | if not, you might be able to fiddle with udev to get it to work, but I don't know any details |
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| 20:20.33 | debian_lover | my gnome gets very slow after some time of use. moving of windows takes seconds! that is not normal in my opinion! I have to say, I got an ati - hd6450 |
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| 20:20.55 | HiDeHo | ok anyone know where i am to set nomodeset for grub again thanks |
| 20:21.13 | debian_lover | /etc/default/grub ? |
| 20:21.26 | HiDeHo | thanks |
| 20:22.24 | HiDeHo | ok now when i am running with nomodeset the screen resolution cant be changed in xfce display settings. |
| 20:22.50 | HiDeHo | nomodeset seems to be the best option that does not cause errors with card atm |
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| 20:23.25 | HiDeHo | i would like to run int 1024x768 resolution not 640X480 |
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| 20:23.59 | SynrG | nomodeset is rarely a solution. just a workaround to help get the system usable again |
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| 20:24.19 | HiDeHo | so what can i do. hold on one sec brb |
| 20:24.26 | SynrG | you've probably been bumped back to VESA |
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| 20:25.00 | SynrG | i don't know what the history of your graphics card problem is |
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| 20:25.22 | SynrG | i.e. what led you to use nomodeset in the first place? |
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| 20:28.03 | HiDeHo1 | now having trouble with internet conection arg |
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| 20:30.56 | S4nD3r | v |
| 20:31.05 | S4nD3r | help |
| 20:31.07 | S4nD3r | someone |
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| 20:31.17 | S4nD3r | to help me about CUDA installation |
| 20:31.18 | S4nD3r | Is it true, that I don't need proprietary drivers to run CUDA in Linux? |
| 20:31.19 | mtn | !ask |
| 20:31.19 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 20:33.16 | HiDeHo | arg |
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| 20:33.32 | HiDeHo | this debian os or and computer suck |
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| 20:33.46 | HiDeHo | think more computer |
| 20:34.26 | HiDeHo | i should have gone with a preconfigured server os not net install |
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| 20:36.07 | HiDeHo-123 | hi again |
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| 20:37.26 | HiDeHo-123 | ok i have problems with my gcard this is the best option i can use atm GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nomodeset" |
| 20:37.28 | nonconvergent | judd: pciid 0846:1100 |
| 20:37.29 | judd | [0846:1100] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0846:1100 |
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| 20:37.44 | nonconvergent | judd: usbid 0846:1100 |
| 20:37.44 | HiDeHo-123 | Graphics: Card Intel 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Integrated Graphics Device bus-ID 00:02.0 |
| 20:37.44 | HiDeHo-123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.44 | HiDeHo-123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.44 | HiDeHo-123 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:38.11 | nonconvergent | bleh, Guess he can't do that. |
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| 20:39.09 | HiDeHo-123 | ok i have problems with my gcard this is the best option i can use atm GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nomodeset" |
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| 20:39.18 | HiDeHo-123 | Graphics: Card Intel 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Integrated Graphics Device bus-ID 00:02.0 |
| 20:39.19 | HiDeHo-123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.19 | HiDeHo-123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.19 | HiDeHo-123 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:39.46 | HiDeHo-123 | hey whyen i try to post my gcard info why do i get kicked |
| 20:40.02 | HiDeHo-123 | i should be able to use inxi comands in here |
| 20:40.24 | HiDeHo-123 | darn server lol |
| 20:40.26 | eqyiel | HiDeHo-123: Kick: HiDeHo-123 kicked by debhelper (~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper): flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead. |
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| 20:42.59 | HiDeHo-123 | ok here is my gcard info http://paste.debian.net/95748/ |
| 20:43.08 | HiDeHo-123 | i need to install drivers i think |
| 20:43.44 | HiDeHo-123 | atm i am using this to boot properly GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nomodeset" |
| 20:44.06 | towo` | tha't wrong |
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| 20:44.25 | towo` | intel depends on KMS, so nomodeset is totaly wrong |
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| 20:44.47 | HiDeHo-123 | using that info its defaulting to 640x480 and i cant change it |
| 20:45.00 | HiDeHo-123 | ok then what can i do to fix things |
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| 20:45.27 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, it was only a tempory solution so i could startx and access things |
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| 20:45.42 | HiDeHo-123 | towo what should it be using |
| 20:45.53 | towo` | intel does not need a special driver |
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| 20:46.08 | towo` | its all in the kernel and xorg |
| 20:46.49 | shape | I have a question regarding security: Is debian used on servers because of stability mainly, and not for security? I mean, would a minimal arch/gentoo install be as secure as a debian minimal install? |
| 20:46.55 | HiDeHo-123 | towo all graphics cards have drivers available due to problems running straight and also with vesa nomodeset gives me a working |
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| 20:48.03 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, you fail to understand things. when i run in other modes things in x go mental screen flickers, the image scrolls accross the screen adn its unusable |
| 20:48.28 | HiDeHo-123 | nomodset fixes that problem but only gives me 640x480 |
| 20:48.54 | rgr | i recently moved from gnome to xfce4 but when I close the lid thje wireless (wicd) turs off. Ive checked the power manager settings - lid closing just locks the screen. Ideas? |
| 20:49.04 | HiDeHo-123 | all graphics cards need drivers mainly for the 3d accelleration and to fix problems like i am having |
| 20:49.24 | HiDeHo-123 | towo i am not new to linux just debian |
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| 20:50.44 | HiDeHo-123 | ok that should be al infos given now towo` hope you can help |
| 20:50.47 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, all needed drivers comes default with debian |
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| 20:51.22 | HiDeHo-123 | then why do i get this weird playing up on all options but nomodset then |
| 20:51.38 | HiDeHo-123 | maybe my intell card i snot included in the kernel |
| 20:51.50 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, sure, it is |
| 20:51.57 | towo` | the module is called i915 |
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| 20:52.13 | towo` | and the ddx ist xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 20:52.18 | HiDeHo-123 | then why do i get weird behavours |
| 20:52.22 | eqyiel | gma500? |
| 20:52.23 | towo` | 3d is libgl1-mesa-glx |
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| 20:52.47 | towo` | eqyiel, 82845G/GL is not gma500 |
| 20:52.56 | HiDeHo-123 | well this card has problems ok so i dont mind if the drivers are installed or not they dont work here |
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| 20:53.14 | HiDeHo-123 | can i use nomodset and set a 1024x768 resolution |
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| 20:53.39 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, its good the drivers are there so to speak |
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| 20:54.35 | towo` | and btw 82845G/GL is an ancient chipset |
| 20:54.43 | gnat_x | hi folks, i have a multi-boot usb that i use for installers, live images etc. it is a basic set up, two dirs boot and iso, and a grub.cfg that points to the isos. it works fine with debirf, tails, memtest, the debian installer however is having issues, i'm trying to use the multi-arch jessie netinst. i can write a grub menu entry that boots into the installer, but it chokes on the detect and mount cd step. |
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| 20:55.01 | gnat_x | "The CD-ROM drive contains a CD which cannot be used for installation." |
| 20:55.32 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, uyes i know its an old pentium it has onboard graphics only. ineed to find a pci graphjics card to try i guess |
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| 20:56.02 | HiDeHo-123 | an old xp pentium 4 |
| 20:56.21 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, you are much helpful today. so any ideas on how to fix things |
| 20:56.34 | gnat_x | here's my menu entry http://paste.debian.net/95749/ |
| 20:57.29 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, i know that in some distros the kernels sometimes drop support for older hardware that is no longer common. i may need a new kernel with support from my card |
| 20:57.33 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, i often see problems with i915 on this old chipsets |
| 20:58.28 | towo` | and with vesa, you should be able to use 1024x768, but you need a xorg.conf stanza maybe |
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| 20:58.34 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, so if i could get nomodset to run as 1024x768 resolution i would be happy. |
| 20:58.59 | HiDeHo-123 | with vesa i get same results as no settings weird playing up of screen |
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| 20:59.31 | towo` | [22:58:28] <towo`> ... but you need a xorg.conf stanza maybe |
| 20:59.41 | HiDeHo-123 | knows nothing wat a xorg.cong stanza is or how to set it up |
| 21:00.13 | HiDeHo-123 | nothing at all |
| 21:00.36 | HiDeHo-123 | sounds like a lot of work here |
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| 21:00.56 | HiDeHo-123 | debian netinstall is to much work to configure |
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| 21:01.13 | HiDeHo-123 | but its great learning so its good |
| 21:01.51 | shape | Does the debian security team actually fix bugs in software and not rely on the developers/upstream? |
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| 21:02.17 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, that depends on the base debian you are using |
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| 21:04.33 | shape | HiDeHo-123: I'm curious which would be more secure (again, security not stability): A minimal rolling release like arch/gentoo, or a stable-old release like debian stable |
| 21:05.04 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, stable is the best option it provides updates to everything including security |
| 21:05.30 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, will i need to blacklist the driver and install the proprietary Intel graphics for this card |
| 21:05.42 | HiDeHo-123 | ^ i have no idea how to do any of that myself |
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| 21:06.38 | c|oneman | What are some good certs to do for learning, more than the cert itsel |
| 21:06.40 | c|oneman | f* |
| 21:06.42 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, there does not exist any propritary intel drivers |
| 21:06.57 | HiDeHo-123 | oh brother |
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| 21:07.13 | HiDeHo-123 | then google is wrong and lots of sites no know nothing |
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| 21:07.17 | HiDeHo-123 | ok i understadn |
| 21:07.35 | HiDeHo-123 | google and all the experts peopel who know things and help in forums are wrong i get it |
| 21:07.36 | shape | HiDeHo-123: yeah but i was more interested on what makes a system secure, because if the developer fixes teh bugs, etc. then they all rely on the developer. |
| 21:07.40 | HiDeHo-123 | towo is the god |
| 21:08.08 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, thatis up to the devs to fix problems in their apps |
| 21:08.12 | HiDeHo-123 | not debian |
| 21:08.24 | HiDeHo-123 | but debian stable has the best debian security available |
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| 21:08.34 | shape | HiDeHo-123: yeah but why |
| 21:08.46 | HiDeHo-123 | google it man its out there |
| 21:08.59 | mingtsay | is there anyone knows DebWRT? |
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| 21:09.21 | tete_ | hi, i am running jessie and would like to install 389 ds, but i only found 389-console which is a X11 application(?) - i am running an ssh server without X... is there no 389-ds for jessie? |
| 21:09.37 | gnat_x | shape: in short it is because the security team looks at upstream CVEs and roll patches quickly (working with package mantainers iirc) |
| 21:09.39 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, because stable is the working os all others are for testing or/and new bleeding edge things. |
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| 21:10.17 | HiDeHo-123 | unstable and testing both have new apps that are the latest but not stable when they have been tested and bugs worked out then they are added to stable. |
| 21:10.31 | HiDeHo-123 | usually that includes all security fixes too |
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| 21:10.46 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, so any more ideas or not |
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| 21:11.15 | shape | gnat_x: yeah, but then isn't the upstream that has to fix the problem? so in a rolling release, wouldnt you get the fix anyway? |
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| 21:11.39 | Aaron_` | Need some iptables help. I have the following setup. Internet --> Router 1 (192.168.1.1) --> Router 2 WAN port (192.168.50.1) Both routers have DDWRT on them, so run linux (No idea what flavour) I am running uvnc on a computer connected to router 2 (192.168.50.104) what are the correct IPTABLE entries to allow a computer on router 1 to access the other system? |
| 21:11.47 | Aaron_` | I have tried iptables -I FORWARD -d 192.168.1.33 -j ACCEPT and iptables -I FORWARD -s 192.168.1.33 -j ACCEPT, but it doesn't seem to work. |
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| 21:12.11 | gnat_x | shape: yes. but your critical software might also break. |
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| 21:12.13 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, again rolling is not stable |
| 21:12.22 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, what debian os are you using atm |
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| 21:12.49 | gnat_x | shape: however with stable you get stability + security review and patches on all known CVEs |
| 21:13.31 | shape | gnat_x HiDeHo-123: I undertand the stability part. I'm aware of that. My question was about purely the security aspect of it. |
| 21:13.35 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, rolling is unstable not a godo os to use for a main stable os |
| 21:13.55 | shape | HiDeHo-123: I agree, again, it was security i was asking about, not stability |
| 21:14.05 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, security = stability from where i sit |
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| 21:14.19 | gnat_x | shape: as soon as a CVE is out, the upstream patch is evaluated, and backported. generally the lag is ~1 day. |
| 21:14.52 | HiDeHo-123 | shape, gnat_x knows more than me about this liten to him |
| 21:14.54 | kostiak | How do I install php 5.5 instead of 5.4? |
| 21:14.55 | shape | HiDeHo-123: security is the vulnerability to exploits, which come from bugs etc. stability is the relationship between the software in the system. And it's the security i was warried about |
| 21:14.55 | gnat_x | shape: so you have increased security without a bunch of different new feature bugs. |
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| 21:15.47 | shape | gnat_x: yeah I understand. btw have you tried out backporting in debian? I need the 3.13 kernel from testing and some drivers for ati to support UVD h/w acceleration, do you think that's doable from stable without breaking it? |
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| 21:16.06 | kostiak | anyone? |
| 21:16.35 | gnat_x | shape: i use backported packages, and have backported packages. it is well documented and straightforwars. |
| 21:16.41 | gnat_x | err forward. |
| 21:16.50 | gnat_x | and *way* better than it used to be. |
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| 21:17.42 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, well this is something interesting https://wiki.debian.org/GraphicsCard#Intel can you see intel propriatry drivers there |
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| 21:18.08 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, you do not have a gma500 |
| 21:18.13 | Zzeiss | what's the command that tells what package supplies a given file? |
| 21:18.20 | HiDeHo-123 | true that i dont |
| 21:18.25 | tete_ | Aaron_`, why do you use forward? |
| 21:18.30 | shape | gnat_x I run archlinux and I want to try out/switch to debian stable, and the package manager apt seems to give me a headache. you know when you install a package. it pulls dependencies. like extra packages. but when I do apt-get autoremove package, sometimes it doesn't pull those dependencies it installed it with. I can see that from the filesize. So then what is the actual command? |
| 21:18.33 | HiDeHo-123 | but you said there was not such thing as intell propriatry drivers ay |
| 21:18.37 | ctmjr | ,v php |
| 21:18.38 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, and those gma500 drivers are old and does not support recent kernels and xserver versions |
| 21:18.38 | judd | No package named 'php' was found in i386. |
| 21:18.51 | ctmjr | ,v php5 |
| 21:18.51 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, gma500 is not a intel chipset |
| 21:18.52 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u9; jessie: 5.5.11+dfsg-3; sid: 5.5.11+dfsg-3; experimental: 5.6.0~alpha3+dfsg-1; experimental: 5.6.0~beta1+dfsg-1; experimental: 5.6.0~beta1+dfsg-2 |
| 21:18.58 | tete_ | Aaron_`, iptables -A INPUT -s $your_ip -j ACCEPT |
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| 21:19.10 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, gma500/3500 is 3rd party powervr chipset |
| 21:19.14 | tete_ | but first i would check what other rules are running with iptables -L |
| 21:19.53 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, ok ok i get it |
| 21:20.09 | HiDeHo-123 | can i use nomodset and run better resolution |
| 21:20.16 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, |
| 21:20.21 | Aaron_` | tete_: $your_ip is that the IP of the computer with uvnc on it, or the one connecting to uvnc? |
| 21:20.57 | tete_ | $your_ip is the ip of the machine from which you are coming e.g. when the router is 192.168.1.1 and your ip is 192.168.50.49 (different network) then it would be 192.168.50.49 |
| 21:20.57 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, sure you can, with the right xorg.conf stanza |
| 21:21.12 | HiDeHo-123 | arg and how to do that towo |
| 21:21.20 | HiDeHo-123 | i asked you before if you knew how |
| 21:21.22 | gnat_x | shape: to cut down on dependency pull, you may want to check on pinning and preferences; for orphaned packages try deborphan. |
| 21:21.22 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, write it |
| 21:21.33 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, use the power of google |
| 21:21.41 | HiDeHo-123 | oh brother towo` |
| 21:21.49 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, you need a right configured section screen |
| 21:21.52 | HiDeHo-123 | why did you not say you did not know before towo` |
| 21:22.10 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, i do not need such config |
| 21:22.22 | shape | gnat_x i think i know the problem. It also installs recommended packages (not necesasrily meaning dependent) like when you install Xorg it installs xterm. so then I guess I have to use the apt-get --no-install-recommends correct? |
| 21:22.26 | Aaron_` | tete_: That makes no sence. I am coming from a 192.168.1.x machine. |
| 21:22.49 | tete_ | Aaron_`, it makes sense if your network is configured correctly to accept connections from a 192.168.1.x machine |
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| 21:23.00 | HiDeHo-123 | towo`, i appricate all your help but if you just said that first and said you had never done it before i would have looked for that |
| 21:23.17 | HiDeHo-123 | rather than other things ok |
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| 21:23.25 | tete_ | Aaron_`, its hard to figure out everything when a lot of informations are missing... as mentioned, when its not a separated network, then its simply the iptables -A INPUT command, nothing else |
| 21:23.32 | gnat_x | shape: yes. though there's somewhere where you can change that default, can't think of it off the top of my head. |
| 21:23.41 | Aaron_` | tete_: Not if its been denied, and it has. The networks need to be kept seperate EXCEPT for specific rules. |
| 21:23.49 | shape | gnat_x: yea, well it will be in the apt configs |
| 21:23.51 | HiDeHo-123 | ok got to go thank again towo` for all your help now i know what i ned to kind of do your da man |
| 21:23.55 | tete_ | Aaron_`, thats why i was mentioning: check iptables -L |
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| 21:24.03 | towo` | HiDeHo-123, i have that done @work, but i'm @home so i can't look, how i have configured the vesa for this machine |
| 21:24.10 | tete_ | when you use the command above then you explicitly allow(!) connections |
| 21:24.14 | tete_ | on a very low level |
| 21:24.20 | tete_ | which makes no sense when its blocked at application level |
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| 21:24.32 | Aaron_` | tete_:You have me totally lost |
| 21:24.59 | tete_ | Aaron_`, are you 100% sure that iptables is blocking the traffic between those 2 networks? |
| 21:25.05 | tete_ | if so, then the above command will fix your problem |
| 21:25.28 | Aaron_` | tete_: Yes, because I set it up with a iptables -I FORWARD -d 192.168.1.0/24 -j REJECT |
| 21:25.36 | shape | gnat_x but am i correct in my assumption that that's where the problem lies? |
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| 21:26.04 | shape | gnat_x because when you apt-get autoremove packages it iwll pull the dependencies and NOT the recommended packages |
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| 21:26.12 | tete_ | lol, thats why i was mentioning check iptables -L .. but that command is ok - when you now use (i assume your ip now as 192.168.1.10) then it is: iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.10 -j ACCEPT |
| 21:26.24 | tete_ | then all traffic is allowed from your machine, and all others from that network are blocked |
| 21:26.35 | gnat_x | shape: correct. |
| 21:26.38 | tete_ | but check that with iptables -L and best would be to use a nopaste or such and paste that |
| 21:26.50 | tete_ | no, use iptables-save and paste that |
| 21:27.02 | shape | gnat_x: awesome thanks a lot mate! really appreciate it |
| 21:27.57 | gnat_x | shape: np. |
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| 21:28.23 | gnat_x | nice way to blunt the frustration of why my multi-boot installers aren't installing. |
| 21:28.25 | shape | gnat_x: so is there a way to remove a package with the packages that it installed/including therecommended ones, like undo the procedure? |
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| 21:28.57 | shape | like for example apt-get install xserver-xorg, installs xterm as well, let's say 2MB in size |
| 21:29.15 | shape | but <what command> remove xserver-xorg, that will pull the xterm as well |
| 21:29.41 | Aaron_` | tete_: Thats the difference bertween -I and -A? |
| 21:29.50 | tete_ | -A is iirc append |
| 21:29.55 | tete_ | it depends how you manage your rules |
| 21:30.10 | tete_ | e.g. if you have default drop rules (-P) or only append all the time etc. |
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| 21:30.29 | Aaron_` | tete_: Let me try that, I will disapear while the router reboots. |
| 21:30.50 | tete_ | Aaron_`, when using -I you insert |
| 21:30.55 | tete_ | i would never use that |
| 21:31.00 | tete_ | only use -A |
| 21:31.12 | tete_ | when using -I then you should really know what you are doing, and check it all time with iptables-save |
| 21:31.22 | tete_ | because it matters in which order the rules are |
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| 21:34.37 | gnat_x | shape: yes. though i forget how, google a bit, i bet you'll find it though. |
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| 21:35.42 | shape | gnat_x: thanks a lot mate. Looking forward to getting debian up and running today <3 |
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| 22:19.58 | rubidious | Hello again. I'm messing about with kvm, and I'm having some issues installing with virt-install. Do I have to run it as root? I keep getting the error "could not access KVM kernel module, permission denied" |
| 22:20.11 | rubidious | I"m in the right group (libvirt) according to the debian wiki |
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| 22:23.27 | rubidious | I can't get it going as root either, but I have a different error |
| 22:23.56 | NeilHanlon | quick and/or dirty way to remove ^M from files with ssh? |
| 22:25.19 | rubidious | maybe I need to be in kvm group as well? |
| 22:25.25 | rubidious | as that's the group of /dev/kvm? |
| 22:25.39 | rubidious | I'm hesitant to do that though, since it's not listed in the debian wiki |
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| 22:34.53 | S4nD3r | Hey guys |
| 22:35.03 | S4nD3r | it's impossible to install nvidia proprietary in wheezy |
| 22:35.21 | S4nD3r | it's time to turn back to microsoft windows! |
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| 22:37.21 | bdog7 | S4nD3r, it's not impossible |
| 22:37.40 | S4nD3r | Sure, It's |
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| 22:38.06 | S4nD3r | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 22:38.11 | S4nD3r | This is not enough |
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| 22:38.23 | ctmjr | yes it is |
| 22:38.28 | S4nD3r | No |
| 22:38.30 | S4nD3r | It's not |
| 22:38.34 | ctmjr | yes |
| 22:38.36 | S4nD3r | No |
| 22:38.39 | bdog7 | yes |
| 22:38.44 | S4nD3r | It's not |
| 22:38.45 | mtn | very grown up, I am sure |
| 22:38.50 | S4nD3r | I did |
| 22:38.55 | S4nD3r | step by step |
| 22:39.04 | S4nD3r | didn't work |
| 22:39.05 | bdog7 | S4nD3r, goto windows |
| 22:39.10 | rgr | S4nD3r: what have you tried? Which method? |
| 22:39.37 | deego | Is this #debian-kids? :) |
| 22:39.39 | S4nD3r | I have 540M |
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| 22:40.12 | S4nD3r | lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 22:40.12 | S4nD3r | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09) |
| 22:40.12 | S4nD3r | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 540M] [10de:0df4] (rev ff) |
| 22:40.17 | S4nD3r | I have the card! |
| 22:40.36 | S4nD3r | the output of nvidia-detect was the sam |
| 22:40.38 | S4nD3r | same* |
| 22:40.48 | rgr | add contrib repo and dkms et cand uut should work BUT wheezy support was crap to what it is now. |
| 22:40.49 | deego | S4nD3r: don't paste here. And, with all that attitude, please go the fuck back to windows. Debian sucks, why are you here? |
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| 22:41.28 | ctmjr | thats because you have an optimus laptop you need bumblebee |
| 22:41.50 | S4nD3r | I did it too rgm- |
| 22:41.52 | S4nD3r | rgr, |
| 22:41.55 | rgr | he hasnt said debian sucks. less of the language. try helping instead of scoffing. its not easy with wheezy AND its card dependant. |
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| 22:42.13 | rgr | ^^ ctmjr |
| 22:42.15 | rgr | brb |
| 22:42.23 | deego | I hate it when people get extra attention and support by starting out saying: "sucks.. time to go to windows." |
| 22:42.24 | S4nD3r | thank you rgr |
| 22:42.46 | S4nD3r | I've tried it for 3 days |
| 22:42.50 | S4nD3r | I really need some help |
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| 22:43.23 | ctmjr | did you ask in #bumblebee ? |
| 22:43.38 | S4nD3r | Sure. |
| 22:43.51 | S4nD3r | I didn't get help there |
| 22:43.52 | JasonWoof | anybody else have trouble with https://duckduckgo.com/html/ in chromium? when I submit the form with chromium, it just reloads the page with the search box empty (and doesn't show results) |
| 22:44.02 | JasonWoof | in iceweasel I get search results |
| 22:44.04 | poeticrpm | S4nD3r, Debian is a bad distro to be on when you need help IF youre new. Most of the time the community (not including devs) use support channels as an excuse to be as*holes |
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| 22:44.15 | S4nD3r | Some years ago, my computer was used by Lekenstein to develop bumblebee |
| 22:44.41 | poeticrpm | theyll help if you show you are somewhat 1337, as it makes them more leet to help. |
| 22:44.47 | JasonWoof | I'm trying to figure out if it's something odd about my setup, or if I should contact ddg or chromium devs |
| 22:45.02 | S4nD3r | but, these days, I didn't get talk to him to try some help |
| 22:45.36 | deego | JasonWoof: wfm |
| 22:45.59 | JasonWoof | deego: thanks. what version of chromium? |
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| 22:46.07 | grache28 | hi - which repos should i add to a debian minimal netinstall? I'm connected thorugh dhcp and can ping outside, but only have cdrom repo in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:46.08 | deego | JasonWoof: the one in wheezy |
| 22:46.21 | JasonWoof | deego: tnx. |
| 22:46.21 | grache28 | it's wheezy main (sorry through google couldn't easily find which ones I should add) |
| 22:46.33 | JasonWoof | can someone test on unstable? |
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| 22:47.42 | JasonWoof | I did some investigation with the chromium inspector, and I can see that despite it being a very simple form, with no javascript which is set to POST, chromium sends a GET with no query args |
| 22:48.45 | ctmjr | dpkg: tell grache28 about sources.list |
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| 22:49.56 | grache28 | so even tho wheezy is version 7.4.0 i just add: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib... |
| 22:50.07 | grache28 | no need for version number, only codename? |
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| 22:51.13 | ctmjr | grache28: just add like the bot said you do not need any version number |
| 22:51.48 | grache28 | hmm, bot didn't say anything |
| 22:52.40 | deego | grache28: it must have pm'd you. |
| 22:52.52 | grache28 | i figured it out anyway, thanks |
| 22:53.55 | shape | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:54.57 | mtn | shape: well, testsing has a newer kernel and software |
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| 22:55.14 | shape | mtn: yeah, i tried backporting but with no avail |
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| 22:55.38 | darsie | Why isn't my SDHC card no longer automounted when I insert the card reader? |
| 22:55.40 | shape | mtn: i backported all the drivers and everything with apt-get -t wheezy-backports install same packages |
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| 22:56.26 | darsie | http://paste.debian.net/95769/ |
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| 22:57.49 | darsie | I think it worked before I rebooted. Before I might have upgraded some packages. |
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| 23:02.34 | darsie | I'll try with installing autofs. |
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| 23:10.36 | niervol | hi all. how do I disable iptables in debian7.4? |
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| 23:12.23 | grache28 | if I want to make a user autologin to an X session (with fluxbox) on boot, without GDM (or any other DM) should I just 'su user startx' on boot script? |
| 23:12.44 | unreal-dude | after updating to debian 7 from 6, i have lost my ipv6 connectivity, ping6 ::1 results in "socket: Address family not supported by protocol" |
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| 23:14.07 | deego | beygi: (i have no idea :) What file system? |
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| 23:14.42 | beygi | deego: docker container |
| 23:15.17 | niervol | I cannot find iptables in /etc/init.d/ and via service command. how do I stop it? debian7.4 |
| 23:15.31 | unreal-dude | i am thinking i am even booting with the wrong kernel, seems I am running 2.6.35 but the update installed 3.2.0 which i have not been able to get grub to switch to as a default |
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| 23:17.03 | happytux | Is updating the apt keys using apt-key update a task one should do regularly or only when required (when problems happen at package installation)? |
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| 23:39.30 | Exsquire | Fuck that #ubuntu channel. |
| 23:39.39 | Exsquire | over 1000 people |
| 23:39.51 | Exsquire | And can't get a simple yes or simple no. |
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| 23:40.05 | Exsquire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.16 | Exsquire | Oh I should have just gone to #help. |
| 23:40.21 | Exsquire | Wo is me. |
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| 23:43.39 | davidLaptop | I am trying to mount a LVM drive. |
| 23:43.43 | davidLaptop | I am following this: http://linuxers.org/howto/how-mount-linux-lvm-volume-partitions-linux |
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| 23:43.59 | davidLaptop | I get to the last line and mount says "Invalid argument" |
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| 23:47.08 | kisslinux | How can I get an invite for debian-next? |
| 23:48.39 | shape | kisslinux: it's on a different server, irc,oftc.net |
| 23:48.55 | shape | kisslinux: irc.oftc.net , not freenode |
| 23:49.06 | kisslinux | alright thanks |
| 23:49.10 | davidLaptop | I am in the debian rescue CD. Does that mean I can't mount things? |
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| 23:51.39 | leonlemouton | davidLaptop: if you want to intall ; first save your data; second partitioning; third enjoy |
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| 23:52.15 | Exsquire | Well #help was useless. |
| 23:52.24 | Exsquire | Anyone know a good program to buy not free ware but to buy. |
| 23:52.28 | Exsquire | For 1000$ |
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| 23:52.36 | Exsquire | To run a computer diagnostics? |
| 23:52.49 | Exsquire | To tell me wtf is going on with this pc? |
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| 23:53.35 | leonlemouton | http://lifehacker.com/5551188/best-computer-diagnostic-tools |
| 23:53.35 | Exsquire | I can' wait to see the day that IRC is taken off the web. |
| 23:53.41 | Exsquire | I hope I am here to watch it. |
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| 23:53.50 | kisslinux | why? |
| 23:53.52 | klys | exsquire, what is wrong, again |
| 23:53.52 | davidLaptop | leonlemouton: I am trying to get my data off a failed raid. |
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| 23:54.05 | Exsquire | Idk |
| 23:54.10 | davidLaptop | No mater what I mount it says "invalid argument" |
| 23:54.15 | Exsquire | I said I needed a computer diagnostic idiot. |
| 23:54.21 | klys | exsquire, does it boot? is it thrashing |
| 23:54.32 | Exsquire | Does it look like I know? |
| 23:54.39 | davidLaptop | even if I let the debian installer mount it it fails. in /var/log/syslog it says invalid argument when the intaller tires to mount |
| 23:54.41 | Exsquire | I just said I need a computer diagnostic program. |
| 23:54.46 | Exsquire | God you are a smart one. |
| 23:54.51 | Exsquire | Do you know of one or not? |
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| 23:55.17 | Exsquire | So I can get the fuck out of this channel and or server. |
| 23:55.19 | klys | you obv. have some experience with a particular computer which must be behaving a particular way which is something you don't want. so, yes, you should know basic facts like those. |
| 23:55.32 | Exsquire | You are obviously not reading my fucking question. |
| 23:55.38 | Exsquire | Do you know of a diagnostic program? |
| 23:56.10 | klys | I think I could help you diagnose it if you would please describe what is happening to your computer. |
| 23:56.19 | leonlemouton | davidLaptop : so read and keep cool; the install program let's you partionninig as well |
| 23:56.20 | Exsquire | ..... |
| 23:56.31 | Exsquire | I do things my self alright? |
| 23:56.40 | Exsquire | I don't need some retard telling me how to fix something. |
| 23:56.42 | kisslinux | he wants a diagnostic program with magic powers |
| 23:56.48 | Exsquire | All I am is asking for is a diagnostic program. |
| 23:56.53 | Exsquire | That will scan all of my shit. |
| 23:56.58 | Exsquire | And tell me what the fuck is wrong with it. |
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| 23:57.09 | klys | robots don't use computers. people use computers. get a grip |
| 23:57.19 | Exsquire | Your jokes suck. |
| 23:57.26 | davidLaptop | leonlemouton: I can't install till I get my data. I have not been able to mount my lvm raid yet. |
| 23:57.29 | Exsquire | Your mom is so fat she makes shamoo look like a gold fish. |
| 23:57.30 | kisslinux | http://linux-diag.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:57.48 | klys | #debian-offtopic |
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| 23:57.53 | acu | hello debianrers, is it normal to have a dynamicmaps.conf file in /etc/postfix ? |
| 23:58.06 | Exsquire | #klys-gfys |
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