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| 00:04.39 | kisslinux | I heart debian linux |
| 00:05.01 | kisslinux | just wanted everyone to know |
| 00:05.30 | dvs | That's the strangest question I've ever saw! :-) |
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| 00:14.46 | poeticrpm | does sid usually have more dependency breakages than testing? Im just curious- Ive been on testing awhile and havent had any issues |
| 00:14.59 | kisslinux | I would think so |
| 00:15.12 | dvs | poeticrpm: absolutely |
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| 00:16.25 | poeticrpm | well, I dont mean application bugs- im sure sid would have more since it hasnt had time to be resolved. I mean "cant install X because Y isnt in sid yet" type stuff. Testing has pretty much been painless for years for me |
| 00:17.15 | asandweech | Hey, for some reason I don't know audio has stopped working. I can't get any sound. Would anyone be able to help me with this? |
| 00:18.03 | poeticrpm | asandweech, are you using pulseaudio or just alsa? |
| 00:18.21 | asandweech | pulseaudio is currently running |
| 00:18.45 | asandweech | I didn't change any settings knowingly, and on reboot a day or two ago sound stopped workign |
| 00:18.47 | poeticrpm | asandweech, meh, I dont use pulseaudio so I dont think I can help |
| 00:18.53 | asandweech | alright |
| 00:19.27 | poeticrpm | i had so many issues with pulseaudio randomly not working I just got rid of it and use alsa |
| 00:19.56 | poeticrpm | so I would say im not surprised. Most of my issues were on arch though. Pulseaudio has changed a lot since its come out |
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| 00:20.41 | kisslinux | poeticrpm, since things go into unstable first, then testing, I'm sure whatever dependencies are needed are there. |
| 00:21.02 | kisslinux | mainaters seem to do a good job |
| 00:21.18 | asandweech | alright, would it be difficult to stop using pulseaudio? |
| 00:21.41 | poeticrpm | kisslinux, doesnt surprise me as debian devs are pretty good |
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| 00:22.10 | freebirD2 | you guys, I've eth0 with the external ip, and eth0 sending to the intranet, I'm a beginner with netfilter, and I've bloked all the input, but port 80, and did the same to the output, but the FORWARD is with policy ACCEPT, (nothing else), is this ok ?? |
| 00:22.11 | poeticrpm | asandweech, depends on your setup I guess, and what your needs are. it should be that hard |
| 00:22.23 | freebirD2 | should the forward be with policy accept ? |
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| 00:22.59 | asandweech | Sitting on a laptop with some basic speakers plugged into the audio jack. Only need a few applications to be able to output sound. |
| 00:23.30 | poeticrpm | asandweech, I just set up a testing install for a friend a few weeks ago and all i had to do was install alsa. If that doesnt work, you probably have a driver issue. Have you tried going back to an old kernel to see if sound starts working again? Are you on sid, testing, or stable? |
| 00:24.01 | asandweech | stable. I don't think it is a driver issue, as I haven't changed drivers since it stopped working |
| 00:24.08 | asandweech | modified drivers* |
| 00:25.12 | JEHorn | Alsa should just work, I have an old Dell Inspiron laptop that needs proprietary alsa drivers that I had to compile. Might look at what drivers the laptop needs |
| 00:25.13 | kisslinux | ive got old hp (14 years?) and it will not wake from sleep. It will no respond (caps key doesnt work). I've tried everything including upgrading to kernel 3.12. Any tips? I've searched the web and haven't found much on this issue. |
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| 00:25.37 | poeticrpm | module failing to load (check lsmod)? use alsamixer to make sure a channel hasnt become muted somehow? |
| 00:25.48 | asandweech | checked alsamixer, all looks good |
| 00:25.54 | asandweech | output of lsmod seems fine as well |
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| 00:27.02 | poeticrpm | if you have modules, working drivers, and alsamixer works, alsa should work. I would either check or remove pulseaudio and reboot |
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| 00:27.27 | dvs | SynrG: errr... better late than never? |
| 00:27.39 | asandweech | alright, ill go ahead and do that |
| 00:27.39 | SynrG | shrugs |
| 00:27.44 | asandweech | any special way to remove pulseaudio? |
| 00:27.45 | dvs | heh |
| 00:27.54 | SynrG | sorry. had i been here, i'd have addressed it |
| 00:28.11 | poeticrpm | asandweech, I would use aptitude personally, but thats just me. |
| 00:28.18 | dvs | SynrG: And offtopic too? |
| 00:28.25 | asandweech | that's what i'm doin |
| 00:28.52 | kisslinux | aptitude purge pulseaudio |
| 00:29.06 | asandweech | yep, be back in a few |
| 00:29.13 | poeticrpm | asandweech, do an autoremove to remove any deps you no longer need. Make sure you double check what its removing though |
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| 00:29.44 | poeticrpm | and yup, purge is the way to go |
| 00:31.03 | JEHorn | What is the best way to go about cleaning out old packages (dependencies) that are not needed? - I can never figure out the best way to do this... |
| 00:31.46 | dvs | auto-remove? deborphan? |
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| 00:32.29 | JEHorn | I've used deborphan, though I've heard that things can linger... |
| 00:32.46 | JEHorn | I guess that's the best option though. |
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| 00:33.24 | leonlemouton | JEHorn : apt-get remove --purge `deborphan --guess-all` |
| 00:33.48 | JEHorn | guess-all? hm, that's a new one for me! I'll give it a try! Thanks |
| 00:35.01 | SynrG | "This method is in no way perfect or even reliable, so beware when using this!" |
| 00:36.15 | SynrG | "aggressive" is not necessarily "better" |
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| 00:37.35 | ahoy | hay, need to install from existing linux machine, do I just extract cd iso to HDD? |
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| 00:37.53 | ahoy | I have no cd or usb drive |
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| 00:38.15 | fastflo | hey! |
| 00:38.27 | dvs | ahoy: usb flash drive? |
| 00:38.31 | dvs | none? |
| 00:38.34 | ahoy | no |
| 00:38.47 | fastflo | i recently asked what the abbrev "apt" stands for -- and whether it is an abbrev at all!?! |
| 00:38.54 | dvs | ahoy: I've never tried debbootstrapping so I can't help. |
| 00:39.00 | ahoy | all i got is existing linux install |
| 00:39.25 | JEHorn | Hmm, Ive done USB-HDD and Netboot/TFPD but that's it... |
| 00:39.34 | SynrG | ahoy: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/ch04s04.html.en |
| 00:39.50 | poeticrpm | ahoy: I havent installed Debian from an existing system- used a liveUSB. However, I did install Arch from a linux install and this wiki might help you a lot: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_Existing_Linux |
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| 00:40.44 | SynrG | ahoy: i think reading the debian installation guide is probably more appropriate than arch's wiki |
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| 00:41.15 | leonlemouton | poeticrpm : arch is not stable ; it's a rolling system |
| 00:41.19 | asandweech | Removing pulseaudio didn't work |
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| 00:41.29 | poeticrpm | SynrG, :P I figured it might be helpful |
| 00:41.51 | poeticrpm | leonlemouton, ok.. why do you mention that? |
| 00:42.43 | leonlemouton | sorry. |
| 00:42.52 | SynrG | fastflo: uh, "man apt"? :) |
| 00:43.27 | poeticrpm | leonlemouton, I just figured I was missing something :P |
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| 00:44.05 | leonlemouton | :) my poor english + reading too fast... nothing more |
| 00:44.40 | poeticrpm | asandweech, hmmm.. have you tried some of the troubleshooting at the wiki here: https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA |
| 00:44.43 | fastflo | you need to remove everything from https://www.google.com/search?num=30&safe=off&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=poetting+systemd+pulseaudio&oq=poetting+systemd+pulseaudio&gs_l=serp.3..30i10.6912.6912.0.7080.1.1.0.0.0.0.133.133.0j1.1.0....0...1c.1.42.serp..0.1.131.b9WhHDpyd24 |
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| 00:44.57 | fastflo | sorry.... |
| 00:45.17 | SynrG | !pal fastflo |
| 00:45.18 | dpkg | points at fastflo and laughs |
| 00:45.25 | poeticrpm | fastflo, haha |
| 00:45.48 | asandweech | I've done a few things |
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| 00:46.38 | poeticrpm | asandweech, .......thats not very specific man :P |
| 00:47.05 | poeticrpm | i prolly cant help you as I have little experience with sound, but one of these fellas can |
| 00:47.09 | asandweech | I know, i know. Reloading, suspending, i've checked make sure device is correct |
| 00:47.17 | poeticrpm | mines always Just Worked (tm) |
| 00:47.45 | swordsmanz | is it better to give users a graphical login or just add starts to one of the configuration levels ? |
| 00:47.55 | swordsmanz | startx* |
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| 00:47.57 | SynrG | asandweech: btw, are you on wheezy? |
| 00:48.03 | asandweech | yes |
| 00:48.19 | SynrG | and sound formerly worked and now doesn't? |
| 00:48.27 | asandweech | mine was working, then i started toggling mute a couple times and it has failed to work since |
| 00:48.31 | asandweech | yes |
| 00:48.34 | SynrG | what changed, then? |
| 00:49.03 | SynrG | i mean, what, on your system, changed between the last time it worked and when it stopped working |
| 00:49.14 | asandweech | I do not know. To my knowledge nothing, until I just now removed pulseaudio. |
| 00:49.25 | asandweech | This is a relatively fresh install |
| 00:49.31 | SynrG | two sound cards? |
| 00:49.31 | leonlemouton | https://wiki.debian.org/Sound |
| 00:49.41 | SynrG | cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 00:49.44 | necrogami | So i'm trying to get wheezy to install and my server has 4 nic's when i try to have one of them (any of them) detect network via dhcp or static it fails. DHCP fails to resolve. Static errors with no message returned. Any idea why this might be happenning (ubuntu 14.04 and archlinux install fine i need wheezy for proxmox) |
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| 00:50.23 | asandweech | Should be only one sound card, proc/asound/cards gives 0:PCH and 1:Nvidia |
| 00:50.32 | SynrG | that's two |
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| 00:50.51 | fastflo | who is laughing at me? i was talking about the good ol' non-alsa- emu10k1 times.... where the linux driver was A LOT MORE capabale than the wind**s driver.... |
| 00:51.03 | asandweech | True, maybe I should have said only one is used. |
| 00:51.19 | poeticrpm | i believe the nvidia one is for hdmi |
| 00:51.33 | SynrG | asandweech: *most* 'sound doesn't work' problems are either: |
| 00:51.34 | fastflo | nonono |
| 00:51.34 | asandweech | correct |
| 00:51.38 | SynrG | - wrong sound card selected |
| 00:51.38 | SynrG | or |
| 00:51.39 | fastflo | nvidia is a bad word! |
| 00:51.47 | SynrG | - some mixer channel is 0 volume or muted |
| 00:51.55 | asandweech | the nvidia card is for the hdmi, which isn't being used. |
| 00:52.08 | SynrG | so, at paste.debian.net, the output of 'amixer', please |
| 00:52.10 | JEHorn | Ahh I remember my first Linux compatible sound card, old ISA Ensoniq thing... huge with a bunch of jumpers on it. I think I actually still have it! :-) |
| 00:52.28 | fastflo | ever tried to compile an nvidia blob against an rt-kernel? |
| 00:52.41 | fastflo | ---it doenst work! and it should'nt! |
| 00:52.57 | poeticrpm | shouldn't* |
| 00:53.00 | poeticrpm | :P |
| 00:53.23 | fastflo | sorry :) |
| 00:53.32 | poeticrpm | just messing with you |
| 00:53.34 | SynrG | all very interesting, but offtopic |
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| 00:53.43 | asandweech | SynrG: here it is, nothing besides mic seems to be muted. http://paste.debian.net/95781/ |
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| 00:55.31 | dvs | asakura: Turn IEC958 off |
| 00:55.32 | necrogami | So i'm trying to get wheezy to install and my server has 4 nic's when i try to have one of them (any of them) detect network via dhcp or static it fails. DHCP fails to resolve. Static errors with no message returned. Any idea why this might be happenning (ubuntu 14.04 and archlinux install fine i need wheezy for proxmox) Any idea's why networking fails? |
| 00:55.36 | fastflo | still: asandweech: has a point: i also noticed that the alsa naming changed an suddenly my robot speaks up way too loud! |
| 00:55.44 | dvs | asandweech: : Turn IEC958 off |
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| 00:56.12 | poeticrpm | asandweech, Front Left: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] |
| 00:56.12 | poeticrpm | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.56 | asandweech | Ooh, I see. How can I change that? |
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| 00:57.05 | asandweech | see if that is the problem. |
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| 00:57.11 | poeticrpm | go for dvs' idea first |
| 00:57.15 | SynrG | paste.debian.net is not responding for me :( |
| 00:57.22 | asandweech | Right, where do I turn off IEC958? |
| 00:57.29 | SynrG | 3 minutes trying to see that paste ... |
| 00:57.37 | SynrG | alsamixer |
| 00:57.38 | poeticrpm | should be able to do it in alsamixer |
| 00:57.39 | fastflo | alsamixer; alsactl store..... |
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| 00:57.44 | SynrG | yup |
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| 00:59.43 | SynrG | fastflo: not really any reason to separately invoke alsactl store, though, since the alsa-utils init script does that on 'stop' |
| 00:59.53 | SynrG | i.e. would happen as a part of system shutdown |
| 01:00.14 | asandweech | alright, that was the problem, headphone out was turned off |
| 01:00.17 | asandweech | thanks for the help |
| 01:00.20 | poeticrpm | init script... what if he uses a pure systemd setup? |
| 01:00.26 | poeticrpm | wait |
| 01:00.30 | asandweech | Feel kind of silly now |
| 01:00.33 | necrogami | Anyone have any idea's why this would be happenning?! |
| 01:00.36 | kisslinux | lol! |
| 01:00.38 | poeticrpm | there is no systemd on wheezy is there.. |
| 01:01.09 | poeticrpm | asandweech, you should be able to use pulse if you want |
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| 01:01.44 | asandweech | I should be fine without it. What advantages would it provide? |
| 01:01.59 | poeticrpm | thats a very subjective discussion |
| 01:02.03 | fastflo | @synrG: i do that whenever i need to be sure to restore the same setup.... |
| 01:02.07 | fastflo | why not? |
| 01:02.13 | fastflo | fast, simple.... |
| 01:02.16 | SynrG | asandweech: e.g. the ability to fade out the music so you can hear an alert |
| 01:02.21 | asandweech | heh, alright. If I find myself ever needing it I will reinstall. |
| 01:02.22 | fastflo | -> debian???? :) |
| 01:02.29 | asandweech | Ah, I don't care too much about that |
| 01:02.31 | SynrG | asandweech: plenty of others |
| 01:02.33 | poeticrpm | i suppose central handing of volume for individual applications |
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| 01:02.37 | SynrG | asandweech: just read up on it |
| 01:02.41 | asandweech | Will do |
| 01:02.52 | asandweech | thanks for the help. Sorry it turned out to be a device muted problem. |
| 01:02.58 | SynrG | np |
| 01:02.59 | poeticrpm | asandweech, i hate it personally, but for no objective reason :P |
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| 01:03.15 | fastflo | sastemd? poetting? are we there again? :) |
| 01:04.00 | fastflo | sorry, |
| 01:04.18 | poeticrpm | haha, I hated systemd, but it works alright. I was just resistant to change, and I will admit I am not a fan of its binary logs. I might need to setup a ute to get text logs |
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| 01:06.42 | SynrG | poeticrpm: anyway, "what if systemd?" nothing different, i don't think. it's drop-in compatible with existing init scripts. "wheezy doesn't have it?" well, it has a technology preview |
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| 01:13.27 | fastflo | @poeticrpm: did you notice how long it takes to get a disokay of the last logs via sysemd? |
| 01:13.32 | fastflo | like2-4 seconds? |
| 01:13.52 | fastflo | rremember tail /var/log/daemon_name.log? how fast was that? |
| 01:14.00 | poeticrpm | disokay? |
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| 01:14.09 | fastflo | display |
| 01:14.26 | fastflo | shifted one to lthe left |
| 01:14.35 | converge | how many swap space for a core 2 duo / 4gb mem (800mhz) / 750GB disk that runs 4 vm's. it's basicaly a backup server with some erp (python+postgresql) mirrors |
| 01:14.55 | buu | 4vms aon a 4gb machine |
| 01:15.00 | buu | Thats impressive |
| 01:15.00 | poeticrpm | oh, yeah its slower. I personally dont like it- I use it because everything is basically going that way |
| 01:15.35 | dvs | converge: if it's a server, I'd use 8GB |
| 01:15.38 | converge | buu: it's a backup server, not production |
| 01:15.45 | fastflo | @converge: thats not nice.... core 2 dua with 4gb and 5 vm's is really not nice! |
| 01:16.03 | poeticrpm | fastflo, perhaps what I hate most about systemd is how hard it was jammed down everyones throat. |
| 01:16.13 | necrogami | So i'm trying to get wheezy to install and my server has 4 nic's when i try to have one of them (any of them) detect network via dhcp or static it fails. DHCP fails to resolve. Static errors with no message returned. Any idea why this might be happenning (ubuntu 14.04 and archlinux install fine i need wheezy for proxmox) Any idea's why networking fails? |
| 01:16.16 | poeticrpm | it hasnt given me problems though |
| 01:16.49 | leonlemouton | nano /etc/hostname |
| 01:16.52 | leonlemouton | nano /etc/hosts |
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| 01:17.26 | fastflo | huh... who wants to go into this - do you know your dhcp server configuration discussion? |
| 01:17.58 | fastflo | could it be that your dhcp server is a m$ server sell you everything thing? |
| 01:18.15 | fastflo | and you don't have a clue what all those translated buzzwords mean? |
| 01:18.18 | necrogami | fastflo, is that for me? |
| 01:18.28 | fastflo | --- welcome in the club: get real! |
| 01:18.51 | necrogami | dhcp is fine. ubuntu, centos, archlinux all pick up dhcp fine on the same machine |
| 01:19.15 | fastflo | @necrogami: i'm sorry: yes. |
| 01:19.46 | leonlemouton | necrogami : nano /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 01:20.00 | necrogami | leonlemouton, doesn't exist |
| 01:20.09 | necrogami | this is an INSTALL not a running system |
| 01:20.38 | fastflo | @necrogami: are you sure your nic is supported by what-ever-debian-distro-you're-trying-to-install? |
| 01:20.38 | necrogami | i went into the f2 term and looked for /etc/network/interfaces and it didn't exist |
| 01:20.47 | necrogami | ip addr reported the nic |
| 01:21.07 | fastflo | @necro: ip addr list |
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| 01:21.15 | fastflo | see if your nic shows up at all |
| 01:21.15 | necrogami | fastflo, it reads all 4 nics (it's a dell R610) |
| 01:21.30 | necrogami | it runs the link detect on all 4 |
| 01:21.31 | leonlemouton | nano /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf |
| 01:21.42 | fastflo | hm |
| 01:21.54 | necrogami | but even if i set it to static |
| 01:22.09 | necrogami | it spits some error out after setting the name server (When it would move to hostname) |
| 01:22.11 | necrogami | and it said it failed |
| 01:22.31 | necrogami | like i said though centos, arch and ubuntu have all detected the nic without error |
| 01:22.40 | fastflo | don't care about names at this stage. |
| 01:22.49 | fastflo | try to ping known ip-adresses |
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| 01:23.06 | necrogami | gimme a min i need to put debian back on the thumb drive |
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| 01:24.37 | fastflo | necro: have a look at "route -n" whether there are at least some possible routes to the ip you're trying to reach... |
| 01:24.43 | necrogami | gateway was set |
| 01:24.50 | fastflo | :) |
| 01:24.53 | necrogami | i checked that the first time it failed |
| 01:25.18 | necrogami | (it was set from me trying the static ip) |
| 01:25.21 | necrogami | brb |
| 01:25.46 | necrogami | it takes about a minute to scan the ram .... |
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| 01:25.59 | necrogami | Dual QC 2.4ghz 96g ram |
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| 01:26.09 | fastflo | ? |
| 01:26.14 | dvs | only? |
| 01:26.18 | dvs | ;-) |
| 01:26.19 | fastflo | ah missed the 96 |
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| 01:26.48 | necrogami | then it takes another minute to get past perc6i and idrac6 |
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| 01:26.51 | necrogami | fucking dell |
| 01:27.02 | fastflo | :) |
| 01:27.49 | fastflo | couldn't you remove some of thoese "heavliy unnneded resources" to get a faster debug-cycle? :) |
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| 01:29.00 | necrogami | idrac6 can't be turned off |
| 01:29.07 | necrogami | and i the perc6i is my raid controller |
| 01:29.35 | fastflo | @necro: do you know a way to tell which nic is actually connected to some reasonable peer? |
| 01:29.54 | SynrG | in his problem description he said he checked them all. |
| 01:29.56 | fastflo | mii-tool? |
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| 01:30.04 | fastflo | ethtool |
| 01:31.22 | leonlemouton | iftop |
| 01:31.26 | leonlemouton | :) |
| 01:31.34 | necrogami | I've run through trying eth0-3 |
| 01:32.39 | fastflo | yeahr. |
| 01:32.53 | fastflo | but which nic's have an ethernet link? |
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| 01:33.10 | necrogami | according to the switch all are linked |
| 01:33.24 | leonlemouton | iftop is the best with screen |
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| 01:33.27 | SynrG | and i suppose the answer would be "the same one(s) that worked for the other OSes" |
| 01:33.54 | necrogami | all 4 worked on ubuntu |
| 01:34.05 | SynrG | is it possible they need some non-free firmware to work? |
| 01:34.12 | leonlemouton | and apachetop... |
| 01:34.16 | necrogami | possible but the detect names just fine |
| 01:34.18 | ctmjr | sounds like a firmware issue |
| 01:34.21 | fastflo | read dmesg? |
| 01:34.26 | ctmjr | sooo slow |
| 01:34.29 | necrogami | its almost up |
| 01:34.35 | SynrG | necrogami: lspci -nn | grep -i ethernet |
| 01:34.42 | necrogami | thing takes as long as a cisco router to reboot |
| 01:34.47 | SynrG | necrogami: need the pciid |
| 01:35.08 | necrogami | damnit |
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| 01:36.42 | SynrG | there are unofficial firmware images that make this a bit simpler. or else the firmware can be provided separately |
| 01:36.48 | SynrG | !firmware images |
| 01:36.48 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 01:37.13 | necrogami | gimme a min |
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| 01:41.03 | bdog7 | I'm using debian wheezy with nvidia drivers and two monitors with fluxbox and sometimes xfce, the dual monitors work but I was wondering if there is a way to drag windows between monitors? |
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| 01:42.08 | fastflo | @bdog7: learn about x-windows, x-sreens, xinerama |
| 01:42.24 | fastflo | s/sreens/screeens |
| 01:42.25 | bdog7 | thanks fastflo |
| 01:42.52 | fastflo | @bdog7: the important thing is abount xinerama |
| 01:43.29 | bdog7 | oh i saw a tick box for that in the driver |
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| 01:45.16 | SynrG | !xwindows |
| 01:45.17 | dpkg | X Windows is NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, the X Window System, etc. Do a "man X" for more. <Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about <x windows trap>. |
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| 01:46.17 | bdog7 | rebooting to try new configs |
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| 01:48.57 | fastflo | :) @ dpkg/SynrG: thanks - its just X |
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| 01:50.22 | fastflo | one just get tempted to talkt about "x-window"'s because there are typically so many of them on my screen..... and its the same x-window-system behind all that. which today is typically X.org... |
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| 01:51.39 | bdog7 | thanks fastflo that lead me in right direction and is now sorted |
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| 01:52.10 | necrogami | alright |
| 01:52.16 | mutable_malachi | Hi, guys. I'm having an issue in which both chromium and iceweasel use 100% of CPU. |
| 01:52.18 | necrogami | trials and tribulations i'm finally back in the installer |
| 01:52.31 | fastflo | @bdog7: glad i could held. sorry when iit sounded too short-handed |
| 01:52.46 | mutable_malachi | I haven't updated either of them in the past few days and the issue started today. |
| 01:52.56 | necrogami | fastflo, SynrG: http://puu.sh/8nB4m that's the firmware it says it's missing |
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| 01:53.23 | fastflo | simple |
| 01:53.28 | fastflo | do whats written there |
| 01:53.38 | fastflo | get bnx2-mips.... |
| 01:53.40 | fastflo | from googlke |
| 01:53.47 | necrogami | can i just copy it onto the same thumbdrive? |
| 01:53.48 | fastflo | put it on usb stick ... done |
| 01:53.56 | fastflo | yeeeeees! |
| 01:54.15 | necrogami | im using unetbootin |
| 01:54.19 | necrogami | i'm not sure it'll pick it up or not |
| 01:54.21 | necrogami | lets give it a shot |
| 01:55.02 | fastflo | "unetbootin" is an unknown identifier in my world.... i would probably have to google-it-up :) |
| 01:55.23 | necrogami | yeah every single time i try to boot from a raw written usb drive |
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| 01:55.30 | fastflo | @necro: not the same thumb drive! |
| 01:55.32 | necrogami | it fails to read |
| 01:55.35 | mutable_malachi | dpkg: jessie |
| 01:55.35 | dpkg | The release following Debian 7 "Wheezy" is codenamed "Jessie" (the cowgirl in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 8.0. It is the current <testing> distribution. Use the #debian-next channel on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net) for support. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00004.html . See also <jessie alpha>, <jessie freeze>. |
| 01:55.37 | fastflo | give it another one! |
| 01:55.43 | necrogami | i don't have another usb drive.. ~.~ |
| 01:55.44 | SynrG | uggh, unetbootin and the debian installer do *not* play nicely together |
| 01:55.45 | fastflo | sorry..... |
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| 01:56.28 | fastflo | 'im out! :) |
| 01:56.30 | SynrG | necrogami: i give it poor odds of going well from here on, due to unetbootin |
| 01:56.52 | necrogami | SynrG, any tips for installing from usb then? |
| 01:57.06 | necrogami | or writing the installer files to usb |
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| 01:57.10 | SynrG | necrogami: just copy the image to the usb device as per the instructions in the debian installation guide |
| 01:57.28 | leonlemouton | http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:57.36 | SynrG | e.g. if usb is /dev/sdb, cp nameofimage.iso /dev/sdb |
| 01:57.39 | SynrG | then 'sync' |
| 01:57.45 | converge | im using monitorix for server monitor, but Im looking for something with thermal monitor and real time data, some suggestion ? |
| 01:57.47 | necrogami | this laptop is windows due to gaming |
| 01:58.32 | SynrG | necrogami: then use http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ |
| 01:58.51 | necrogami | lets try it again |
| 01:58.52 | fastflo | ///offtopic: we don't have to help people still convinced about windo$ws? |
| 01:58.54 | SynrG | necrogami: also, as i said earlier, you might want to use the non-free installer image instead: |
| 01:58.57 | SynrG | !firmware image |
| 01:58.58 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 01:59.20 | SynrG | fastflo: wtf? |
| 01:59.30 | necrogami | SynrG, so use that image instead of standard image? |
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| 01:59.38 | SynrG | it is certainly within our mandate to help people who currently run windows to install debian |
| 01:59.47 | SynrG | or else how do you expect people to ever start using debian? |
| 02:00.03 | necrogami | fastflo, i have 2 things for ya |
| 02:01.01 | necrogami | fastflo, SynrG: This is my current setup: https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1381398_10150342087804946_34560235_n.jpg |
| 02:01.07 | SynrG | necrogami: yes, use that image. it contains the non-free firmware, and makes your job easier |
| 02:01.10 | necrogami | The reason for it being on the floor and what not. |
| 02:01.24 | necrogami | is because this: https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/679892_10150261635654946_370403033_o.jpg |
| 02:01.34 | necrogami | wouldn't fit in my mazda rx8 when i recently moved to fl.... |
| 02:01.49 | necrogami | SynrG, downloading it now |
| 02:02.07 | converge | necrogami: pretty racks |
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| 02:02.24 | kambei | necrogami: That's why they make bungeecords |
| 02:02.50 | necrogami | kambei, -.-im not strapping 2 300lb racks to the roof of my car |
| 02:03.05 | necrogami | they sit in storage till i can move them down here. |
| 02:03.10 | kambei | necrogami: Why, is it a cloth top? |
| 02:03.26 | necrogami | kambei, look it up 2010 Mazda RX8 |
| 02:03.29 | fastflo | actually: they are not all aligned :) |
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| 02:03.39 | fastflo | ...nono... just having fun |
| 02:03.43 | necrogami | lol |
| 02:03.52 | necrogami | it's times like now |
| 02:03.57 | necrogami | why i want to murder my isp |
| 02:03.59 | fastflo | where did i pick up this windows idea? |
| 02:04.05 | kambei | necrogami: I know what it is. I wasn't exactly being serious. |
| 02:04.10 | necrogami | <-- win7 laptop |
| 02:04.15 | necrogami | lol |
| 02:04.25 | necrogami | kambei, i did bring the servers in the first pick with me. |
| 02:04.26 | SynrG | necrogami: just one question, did i get it right that you're installing wheezy (i.e. *our* installer) but "for proxmox"? my understanding is that's a derivative not supported here (but installing from a wheezy image is, which is why i didn't raise the issue earlier) |
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| 02:04.48 | necrogami | SynrG, for some reason |
| 02:04.59 | necrogami | when i try to install from a raw image written to my usb stick |
| 02:05.02 | necrogami | it fails every time |
| 02:05.13 | abrotman | necrogami: but instsalling whta/. |
| 02:05.15 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:05.34 | necrogami | abrotman, debian, ubuntu, proxmox install iso+raw |
| 02:05.41 | abrotman | pick one .. |
| 02:05.49 | SynrG | so i'm guessing you're using this method: |
| 02:05.49 | fastflo | :) |
| 02:05.52 | SynrG | http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Installation#Optional:_Install_Proxmox_VE_on_existing_Debian_Wheezy.2864_bit.29 |
| 02:05.52 | necrogami | it fails to detect a bin file in the /boot |
| 02:06.01 | necrogami | SynrG, that's what i'm trying to do now. |
| 02:06.12 | abrotman | So .. not installing debian |
| 02:06.14 | SynrG | necrogami: ok. we can help with "install wheezy" but once you install proxmox, you're on your own |
| 02:06.22 | necrogami | abrotman, it's still a clean wheezy install |
| 02:06.29 | necrogami | after that ill take over the proxmox part of things |
| 02:06.35 | necrogami | i don't need help with that part |
| 02:06.36 | abrotman | necrogami: not with those instructions |
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| 02:06.48 | necrogami | ? |
| 02:06.56 | necrogami | I did it yesterday at work from those instructions |
| 02:06.56 | SynrG | abrotman: he's not following those instructions *yet* |
| 02:07.02 | abrotman | necrogami: installing wheezy works just find |
| 02:07.04 | abrotman | fine? |
| 02:07.15 | necrogami | not for my experience |
| 02:07.18 | SynrG | installing wheezy didn't work for him |
| 02:07.21 | SynrG | firmware issues |
| 02:07.24 | necrogami | It turns out i was missing firmware |
| 02:07.28 | SynrG | and also unetbootin ... |
| 02:07.29 | necrogami | working on correcting that now |
| 02:07.30 | SynrG | so double fail |
| 02:07.32 | pantysnap | splendidsnapper you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted |
| 02:07.45 | abrotman | unetbootin is a pile of broken shit .. don't use it |
| 02:07.46 | fastflo | -> another usb stick with the foreign firmware on it... |
| 02:07.48 | necrogami | SynrG, it might still come to unetbootin + hdmedia if this raw writer fails agian |
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| 02:08.17 | necrogami | fastflo, sadly there isn't another usb stick here |
| 02:08.26 | fastflo | ?! |
| 02:08.33 | fastflo | this is not a real probme |
| 02:08.34 | SynrG | !unetbootin |
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| 02:08.34 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 02:08.36 | fastflo | poroblem |
| 02:08.44 | fastflo | get out buy another one! |
| 02:08.48 | necrogami | i left my other sticks in storage in indy. |
| 02:08.51 | SynrG | necrogami: "mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways" is not overstatement |
| 02:09.07 | pantysnap | [pimps pissed crapholes], [equation dancer], [painter class], [undies reproduces], [asshole pie fecal frenzy skewering], [granite civilized], [feminist grandpa's], [contesting skateboarded], [blabbered whiteys], [footjob undignified], [heart attacks uncensored snapcock's businesses], [blowed addicts nationwide pussy passes], [ideal angel's grandsack], [weakling washed-up bootyasscheekcracks], [zoomer whirlpools poopy diaper's] |
| 02:09.12 | pantysnap | [delight fuckers], [destroyed painter], [escorts remarkable], [barriers inspirational sports players], [blaire slut project bootyhole-shaped], [fees chocolaty], [plagues blick winkel sexism], [on pained], [koran festivals pilot's], [junk taste-testing], [players empty bootyasscheekcrackholes], [enigma's devourers], [craphole rampages booties], [dampener waitresses waitress's], [ineffectual misleads] |
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| 02:09.16 | *** kick/#debian [pantysnap!~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by abrotman (you should know better) |
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| 02:09.19 | necrogami | SynrG, ill use the usbimagewriter you linked earlier |
| 02:09.28 | necrogami | and ill take a video of what happens. |
| 02:09.44 | necrogami | it blinks off so quickly i can't take a still shot |
| 02:09.55 | abrotman | wonders if that is the same jackass from a few days ago |
| 02:10.01 | fastflo | whooo |
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| 02:10.25 | necrogami | 45 seconds to go |
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| 02:10.43 | necrogami | quietly murders verizon for his 85% reduction in speed |
| 02:11.15 | necrogami | im paying for 150/65 and due to some problem somewhere im getting this http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3462533941 |
| 02:11.29 | SynrG | i'm off to bed. sorry ... |
| 02:11.35 | SynrG | good luck |
| 02:11.39 | necrogami | thanks for your help SynrG |
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| 02:12.09 | SynrG | np |
| 02:12.53 | fastflo | @necro: interesting. |
| 02:13.15 | necrogami | annoying |
| 02:13.45 | fastflo | and how did you came to the conclusion that debian is responsible for the 14MBits/s? |
| 02:13.56 | necrogami | its not |
| 02:14.18 | necrogami | just random brain firings while waiting on the last bit of the iso to download |
| 02:14.20 | necrogami | brb |
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| 02:18.30 | acu | howcan I remove and purge postfix, and all configuration files ? |
| 02:18.32 | acu | in wheezy |
| 02:18.37 | necrogami | fastflo, and just as i thought |
| 02:18.42 | necrogami | the raw image failed to boot |
| 02:18.55 | jaggz | I think I should switch my old laptop to a less demanding window manager.. |
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| 02:19.09 | jaggz | lxde? |
| 02:19.18 | acu | yes |
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| 02:19.22 | acu | is very stable |
| 02:19.28 | jaggz | I used to use kde on it but I think it's too much for it nowadays |
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| 02:19.33 | acu | I use it in few virtual machines |
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| 02:19.45 | jaggz | 750mb ram |
| 02:19.46 | acu | lxde is about 100 mb (I think) very small |
| 02:20.13 | jaggz | thanks.. :) |
| 02:20.17 | necrogami | fastflo, gotta video for ya while i rebuild this iso for unetbootin -.- |
| 02:20.56 | acu | !purge |
| 02:20.57 | dpkg | In Debian package management, "purge" means to completely wipe away a package, including its configuration files. Use «aptitude purge $package» or «dpkg -P $package» (note: before wheezy, you can't 'apt-get purge' a package that is already removed; use aptitude or dpkg instead). To purge all "removed" packages: «aptitude purge '~c'». To restore configuration files, ask me about <confmiss>. Also ask me about <why aptitude>. |
| 02:21.03 | \\Mr_C\\ | whats the easy way to install the latest kernel in debian? |
| 02:21.05 | jaggz | any of you have success accessing an ipad from your linux box? |
| 02:21.17 | acu | !backports |
| 02:21.17 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 02:21.48 | acu | \\Mr_C\\, is 3.13 in backports |
| 02:22.21 | \\Mr_C\\ | it shows 3.2.04 installed |
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| 02:24.15 | acu | \\Mr_C\\, because you need to install backports - FIRST configure /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free---then -aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-3.13-0.bpo.1-amd64 then aptitude innstall |
| 02:24.40 | acu | look at the linux image correct version |
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| 02:25.46 | necrogami | fastflo, http://puu.sh/8nCRG |
| 02:26.14 | necrogami | from when i try to use win32diskimager every time every iso i recieve the same message |
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| 02:28.45 | converge | im using monitorix for server monitor, but Im looking for something with thermal monitor and real time data, some suggestion ? |
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| 02:30.47 | \\Mr_C\\ | acu, so that line you pasted is how i install the newest kernel? |
| 02:31.21 | acu | yes |
| 02:31.26 | acu | change the repos first |
| 02:31.29 | acu | aptitude update |
| 02:31.33 | acu | aptitude install |
| 02:31.36 | acu | reboot |
| 02:32.18 | acu | why you need a newer kernel ? |
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| 02:35.02 | acu | \\Mr_C\\, I assume you know nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 02:35.34 | jaggz | I installed lxde.. I can't access my laptop from here so I put an x11vnc line in my .xinitrc .. but when I run startx I get vnc running and I can connect to it, but it's all black, and I don't see a desktop manager or anything in ps |
| 02:35.45 | resno | im ooking for a bit of help getting debian installed on a macmini. any expecine with refind/refit? |
| 02:35.57 | jaggz | although I haven't figured out how to choose a specific window manager |
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| 02:36.58 | sparky4 | https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos?pid=6006411643172876866&oid=100362478914072019537 |
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| 02:38.33 | jaggz | hmm.. set /etc/x11/default-display-manager to have /usr/bin/startlxde? |
| 02:38.46 | \\Mr_C\\ | yes its working i think |
| 02:38.54 | fastflo | @necrogami: sory: that looks completely unfamilar to me. |
| 02:38.59 | \\Mr_C\\ | i just what to have the latest kernel so i am on thop of things |
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| 02:39.43 | necrogami | fastflo, how can i load that firmware from that iso? |
| 02:39.54 | \\Mr_C\\ | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw for module r8169 |
| 02:39.57 | \\Mr_C\\ | whats that mean? |
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| 02:41.02 | fastflo | necro: your video doesn't look like a missing firmware.... |
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| 02:42.03 | necrogami | fastflo, that's what happens |
| 02:42.09 | necrogami | when i write a raw iso image |
| 02:42.15 | necrogami | to my thumb drive and try to boot |
| 02:42.26 | necrogami | thus |
| 02:42.29 | necrogami | im using unetbootin |
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| 02:43.10 | JEHorn | Can anyone recommend a good USB WiFi dongle that will work well in Linux? (Specifically Debian Wheezy)? - My work laptop needs one, but the one I have keeps crashing my laptop more than it does staying online. |
| 02:44.13 | necrogami | alright |
| 02:44.18 | necrogami | i guess i gotta go buy a new usb stick |
| 02:44.23 | necrogami | i guess it's a walmart run for me |
| 02:44.32 | jaggz | grrr.. x doesn't work unless I run it as root |
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| 02:44.45 | acu | JEHorn: do not know off hand, first look what is your wifi and add proper firmware 0= perhaps add firmware-nonfree ? |
| 02:44.49 | acu | first lsusb |
| 02:44.51 | fastflo | y@necro: grub is failing on your usb boot. hard. because a machine reset is not a nice reaction. |
| 02:44.57 | acu | and find the name and brand |
| 02:44.58 | fastflo | i'm sorry. |
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| 02:45.14 | necrogami | bbiab |
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| 02:45.34 | fastflo | i can't help. |
| 02:45.39 | JEHorn | Well what happens is every so often during boot (after GRUB) the kernel will panic because of the WiFi dongle. It's a little Netgear WNA thing. |
| 02:45.50 | acu | also, you have to know what authentication and protocols your wifi has, and make sure that your card and the software supports it, lately I have no need to compile anything |
| 02:46.17 | acu | again, ifyou install linux-firmeare-nonfree it may take care of it |
| 02:46.25 | acu | what debian do you use ? |
| 02:46.30 | necrogami | sounds like the house mate might just have one |
| 02:46.47 | necrogami | lol i woke him up to see if he needed anything from walmart and he had one |
| 02:47.00 | Artemis3 | and some dongles just need a newer kernel (ie from backports) |
| 02:48.00 | acu | JEHorn, and indeed, if that does not solve it, and is kernel issue, just look at my posted messages for \\Mr_C\\ with regard to backports |
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| 02:49.54 | JEHorn | Okay thanks, I'll do an upgrade of my kernel |
| 02:50.01 | JEHorn | See what happens then. |
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| 02:53.52 | necrogami | to load a firmware from a usb thumb drive |
| 02:54.06 | necrogami | does the .fw file need to be in a specific location? |
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| 02:54.40 | somiaj | necrogami: are you trying to use it during the install, and yes it does. I think it needs to be in root of it |
| 02:55.38 | necrogami | somiaj, like this (highlighted file) http://puu.sh/8nEBg.png |
| 02:56.02 | necrogami | i plugin the thumb drive |
| 02:56.21 | necrogami | and hit load |
| 02:56.27 | necrogami | and it comes back to the exact same screen |
| 02:56.53 | necrogami | http://puu.sh/8nB4m somiaj: this is the message i get |
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| 03:00.14 | somiaj | necrogami: do you have the file in the directy bnx2/foo.fw like it suggests? |
| 03:00.18 | somiaj | necrogami: is this the network isntaller? |
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| 03:00.37 | necrogami | yes and yes it's the firmware file |
| 03:00.51 | necrogami | the one from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
| 03:00.56 | somiaj | necrogami: well I see two options for you, 1) keep messing with this, 2) will be easier |
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| 03:01.23 | necrogami | whats option 2? |
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| 03:02.00 | somiaj | necrogami: first that nonfree image should have the firmware on it, so that is a bit of a confusion for me |
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| 03:02.11 | somiaj | necrogami: but the netinstall contains a fully funcitonal base system on it |
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| 03:02.31 | necrogami | yeah |
| 03:02.33 | necrogami | it's bizzare |
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| 03:02.41 | somiaj | you can just skip the network part |
| 03:02.51 | somiaj | finish installing the fully functional base system (you do not need the internet for that) |
| 03:02.57 | necrogami | right |
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| 03:03.35 | somiaj | at the end skip the tasksel part, once you have installed teh base system get your network up and running (much easier since you are in a functional system) and then rerun tasksel to install the rest of the software |
| 03:03.40 | weeb1e | Hi everyone |
| 03:03.41 | somiaj | or just install software with apt-get |
| 03:04.14 | weeb1e | Is there any way to set the kernel option nohz=off without rebooting the entire box? |
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| 03:05.37 | necrogami | if it's missing a firmware |
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| 03:05.50 | necrogami | how do i get the firmware loaded after the rest is done? |
| 03:06.18 | somiaj | necrogami: copy teh firmware into /lib/firmware/bc2n/foo.fw or download the firwarem deb from packages.debian.org and isntall it with dpkg -i |
| 03:06.24 | somiaj | necrogami: what network card do you ahve? |
| 03:06.58 | necrogami | lemme get past this part and ill get it one sec |
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| 03:07.58 | necrogami | somiaj, http://puu.sh/8nFBz |
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| 03:10.01 | somiaj | necrogami: this is a wired internet connection that is actually 4 devices? Intersting, |
| 03:10.18 | necrogami | somiaj, Dell R610 1U Server |
| 03:10.24 | necrogami | with Quad Gbit network |
| 03:11.08 | somiaj | necrogami: anyways I'm not seeing anything crazy about that card, Im' surprised the firmware didnt' detect it in the installer. |
| 03:11.26 | sparky4 | https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos?pid=6006411643172876866&oid=100362478914072019537 this is my issue |
| 03:12.01 | necrogami | somiaj, i grabbed the 0.41 for bnx2 off http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ (both of them just in case) |
| 03:12.16 | necrogami | threw them on the other thumb drive |
| 03:12.34 | somiaj | necrogami: well it says it is supported, still surprised it needed firmware. |
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| 03:15.06 | necrogami | your guess is as good as mine |
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| 03:16.49 | necrogami | somiaj, http://puu.sh/8nGlw.png |
| 03:16.55 | necrogami | it has the bnx2 deb packages |
| 03:17.01 | sparky4 | damn nvidia driver and 3.13 kernel update |
| 03:17.26 | somiaj | necrogami: anyways I don't see why the network is just not working and is asking for firmware, I saw skip this part |
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| 03:17.56 | necrogami | ive moved to the fun of earsing my existing partitions |
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| 03:24.36 | Artemis3 | aww, midori is not in jeesie :( |
| 03:25.16 | somiaj | ,v midori |
| 03:25.17 | judd | Package: midori on i386 -- squeeze: 0.2.4-3; sid: 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1; wheezy: 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1 |
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| 03:25.46 | somiaj | Artemis3: looks like it hasn't been updated in ages and the one in sid is the same as wheezy, probabaly removed from jessie due to bugs/lack of support |
| 03:26.06 | somiaj | Artemis3: I would say it would be 'safe' to install the sid package if you download it from packages.debian.org (don't put sid sources in a jessie install) |
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| 03:26.41 | somiaj | hmm packages.debian.org says it is moved from sid too, crazy |
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| 03:27.03 | somiaj | http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/midori/news/20140123T163911Z.html -- there is the email saying it is removed, and the bug number about why....looks like it doens't work on kfreebsd |
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| 03:27.39 | Artemis3 | time to try another light browser |
| 03:28.07 | somiaj | there are lots of them, is that one of the many based of of libwebkit? |
| 03:28.35 | somiaj | yup, I don't think libwebkit is that light, but yea lots of smaller browsers are just based off of that. |
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| 03:30.44 | somiaj | Artemis3: as being just a browser on top of libwebkit it would be easy to install from source or upstream if that is the light weight one you really like |
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| 03:31.20 | wakd_ | this link http://cups.org/articles.php?L+TFAQ in the dpkg faction <cups> is broken. trying that in web.archive.org looks like the closest working replacement would be http://cups.org/blog.php |
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| 03:31.34 | wakd_ | *factiod |
| 03:31.38 | somiaj | I wouldn't trust their premade debs (they say you should use ppa on debian which is false), but I bet you can easiy compile that from source and run it directally from $HOME with no issues Artemis3 |
| 03:31.47 | wakd_ | ** factoid :) |
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| 03:32.42 | somiaj | !cups |
| 03:32.42 | dpkg | CUPS (formerly Common Unix Printing System) provides a portable printing layer for Unix-based operating systems and supports the Internet Printing Protocol. To install, ask me about <cups setup>. See also <debug cups>. http://cups.org/articles.php?L+TFAQ http://www.cups.org/ ##cups on irc.freenode.net. |
| 03:34.50 | somiaj | wakd_: yea I don't know what the factoid was intened for, not sure if the one you linked should be the replacement or not |
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| 03:37.04 | somiaj | wakd_: http://cups.org/faq.php my guess is they wanted that faq, I'll fix the factoid |
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| 03:38.05 | wakd_ | somiaj, ok, your search for "faq" worked better than mine :) |
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| 03:38.56 | somiaj | wakd_: anyways hows it look now? |
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| 03:40.26 | wakd_ | somiaj, works for me |
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| 03:43.29 | tharkun | wakd_: What problem are you having with cups? |
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| 03:45.50 | wakd_ | tharkun, just researching before attempting to get a usb printer configured in a minimal custom live-build. only problem today is I have no correct usb cable :) |
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| 03:46.30 | tharkun | Good luck then ;P |
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| 03:56.13 | modyn | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 03:56.13 | modyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.17 | modyn | hi how do i fix this? |
| 03:56.59 | cast | modyn: what does your sources.list say? [maybe pastebin it] |
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| 03:57.05 | somiaj | modyn: can I see the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
| 03:57.30 | cast | [...ignore that, apt-cache policy is a far better suggestion] |
| 03:58.00 | modyn | http://pastebin.com/2jRrJcyg |
| 03:59.34 | modyn | cast |
| 04:00.46 | modyn | apt-cache policy: http://pastebin.com/nAbr3bVx |
| 04:02.40 | somiaj | modyn: you are mixing sid and wheezy, that is your problem. Packages in sid are not ment to installed in wheezy and you have thus created a dependency issue. |
| 04:02.51 | modyn | what to do? |
| 04:03.01 | necrogami | somiaj, i broke down |
| 04:03.05 | necrogami | and bought some cd's |
| 04:03.12 | necrogami | no more unetbootin |
| 04:03.35 | somiaj | modyn: depending on how much you have installed from sid you could have a fairly unstable system. Best suggestion is find all the sid packages and reinstall the wheezy packages, fix everythign you have messed up |
| 04:03.58 | somiaj | necrogami: you were using unetbootin, I should have guessed that, debian .iso do not like fancy boot usb things because the usb is already bootable, you just need a direct copy |
| 04:04.10 | somiaj | necrogami: are you using windows or a unix base system to make the usb image? |
| 04:04.10 | necrogami | no |
| 04:04.11 | modyn | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 04:04.11 | modyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.19 | modyn | how do i do? so i could install this correct one? |
| 04:04.21 | necrogami | somiaj, every time i used win32imagewriter |
| 04:04.35 | modyn | slmiaj: how do i install libboost-all-dev correct? |
| 04:04.38 | necrogami | or suse's image writer to write the iso+raw image to my usb drive it failed |
| 04:04.38 | modyn | what should i do? |
| 04:04.43 | necrogami | every single time every single distro |
| 04:04.50 | necrogami | the server refuses to boot off that type |
| 04:04.51 | somiaj | modyn: first you have to fix your system, you have to remove the sid sources from your /etc/apt/sources/list |
| 04:04.59 | somiaj | modyn: first you have to fix your system, you have to remove the sid sources from your /etc/apt/sources.list, you then have to rerun apt-get update |
| 04:05.16 | modyn | somiaj: can you please pastebin how it should looks like? |
| 04:05.17 | somiaj | modyn: you then have to check yoru system for sid packages and downagrade them to wheezy manually |
| 04:05.21 | modyn | or tell me what to delete? |
| 04:05.32 | somiaj | modyn: delete any line that talks about 'sid' in it, keep the ones that say wheezy |
| 04:05.38 | somiaj | !tell modyn about not available |
| 04:05.44 | somiaj | !tell modyn about partial downgrade |
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| 04:06.38 | somiaj | modyn: after you remove the sid sorucesw and rerun apt-get update, you will want to run that first command I sent you to search your system for sid packages, you will then want to downgrade them, that second messsage I sent you should help with that |
| 04:06.51 | modyn | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/bitcoin/bitcoin/ubuntu/dists/wheezy/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found |
| 04:06.52 | modyn | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/bitcoin/bitcoin/ubuntu/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found |
| 04:06.52 | modyn | E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 04:07.06 | somiaj | necrogami: oh you have one of these strange server bios that don't like debian images, there are some out there I hear. |
| 04:07.15 | modyn | what is this? |
| 04:07.19 | centrx | bitcoin-ubuntu-wheezy wtf? |
| 04:07.20 | modyn | aftet during update |
| 04:07.25 | modyn | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/bitcoin/bitcoin/ubuntu/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found |
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| 04:07.54 | somiaj | modyn: how do you alo have ubuntu sources, Oi, check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -- do you have any files in there talking about ubuntu ppa's. |
| 04:07.55 | necrogami | somiaj, sounds like it |
| 04:08.13 | cafuego | lolcoin ones, no less |
| 04:08.15 | somiaj | modyn: at this point I suggest you reinstall wheezy if that is what you want to install, who knows what else you have done to your system. (: |
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| 04:08.23 | somiaj | modyn: backup first |
| 04:08.27 | Rusty1 | ^ |
| 04:08.47 | modyn | configure: error: No working boost sleep implementation found. If on ubuntu 130 with libboost1.54-all-dev remove libboost.1.54-all-dev and use libboost1.53-l-dev |
| 04:08.56 | somiaj | necrogami: well hoepfully the cd's help your issue. But yea there is some strangeness that unetbootin seems to add to the debian installer make it do strange things. |
| 04:09.10 | modyn | bitcoin-bitcoin-wheezy.list bitcoin-bitcoin-wheezy.list.save |
| 04:09.16 | modyn | should i remove this 2 files? |
| 04:09.21 | centrx | rm |
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| 04:09.36 | somiaj | modyn: yes, not sure why they say tehy are for wheezy if they give ubuntu ppa's |
| 04:10.14 | somiaj | modyn: anyways you have a fairly messed up install. even though there are lots of different .deb's out there, you need to ensure that you only install debs built for wheezy (not for other debian versions and not for other distros based off of debian) |
| 04:10.15 | modyn | configure: error: No working boost sleep implementation found. If on ubuntu 13.10 with libboost1.54-all-dev remove libboost.1.54-all-dev and use libboost1.53-all-dev |
| 04:10.28 | necrogami | thank god |
| 04:10.34 | necrogami | using the firmware iso and the cd |
| 04:10.41 | necrogami | it blazed pass the network details |
| 04:10.52 | modyn | somiaj: do you know how to fix this error please? configure: error: No working boost sleep implementation found. If on ubuntu 13.10 with libboost1.54-all-dev remove libboost.1.54-all-dev and use libboost1.53-all-dev |
| 04:10.53 | necrogami | and it's working on erasing the sda so i can create a lvm |
| 04:10.54 | somiaj | necrogami: yea unetbootin is bad bad juju for the debian install images |
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| 04:11.18 | necrogami | somiaj, lemme find the video of what happens when i use raw image writer on that server |
| 04:11.18 | somiaj | modyn: at this moment the fix is back up your data. and reinstall. I don't want to debug all the stuff you have mixed and broke your system with |
| 04:11.34 | necrogami | somiaj, the video: http://puu.sh/8nCRG |
| 04:11.54 | somiaj | necrogami: I have heard of tales of such (usualyl server bios) that don't seem to work with the debian hybrid images, not sure why and I'm guessing cd is the best bet |
| 04:12.05 | necrogami | yeah |
| 04:12.14 | necrogami | thankfully the other 2 supermicro servers don't have that problem |
| 04:12.41 | somiaj | necrogami: I would be courious if it erreed out on the offical installer (not firmware) |
| 04:12.47 | modyn | configure: error: No working boost sleep implementation found. If on ubuntu 13.10 with libboost1.54-all-dev remove libboost.1.54-all-dev and use libboost1.53-all-dev |
| 04:12.52 | modyn | how do i fix this error? |
| 04:13.10 | necrogami | somiaj, http://puu.sh/8nB4m that's what i was getting before firmware |
| 04:13.15 | somiaj | modyn: I told you, reinstall. We don't support what you have done to your system, you have mixed to many things. At this point you are own your own to fix it. |
| 04:13.49 | somiaj | necrogami: well you need firmware,b ut as I said you can skip that step at least |
| 04:14.07 | Rusty1 | modyn: you have a borked system ,reinstall as somiaj suggests and stop flooding here, |
| 04:14.08 | necrogami | housemate wanted to goto cvs |
| 04:14.18 | necrogami | so i just decided to pick up some cd's while i was there |
| 04:14.32 | necrogami | and forget this usb install for the monster |
| 04:14.53 | modyn | somiaj i need to fix |
| 04:14.57 | somiaj | necrogami: anways the error actually looks liek something wrong eith the nonfree isntaller and wasn't an issue with your biso since it botted the offical one jsut fine. |
| 04:15.00 | modyn | configure: error: No working boost sleep implementation found. If on ubuntu 13.10 with libboost1.54-all-dev remove libboost.1.54-all-dev and use libboost1.53-all-dev |
| 04:15.06 | modyn | get this working |
| 04:15.16 | necrogami | Dual Quad Xeon 2.4ghz 96g ram 3x 146G 15k SAS2 3x 300G 15k SAS2 <-- Monster |
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| 04:15.32 | somiaj | modyn: please do not paste that again. We already told you how to fix it. I am not going to hunt down every random thing you have done to break your debian install bu installing non debian stuff on it. |
| 04:15.38 | Rusty1 | !ops modyn seems to be incorrigible |
| 04:15.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj: rusty1 complains about: modyn seems to be incorrigible |
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| 04:16.54 | modyn | somiaj: no i did not do this |
| 04:17.03 | modyn | dont talk about stuff you dont know |
| 04:17.08 | modyn | i didnt install anything ok? |
| 04:17.11 | modyn | understand? |
| 04:17.16 | centrx | lol |
| 04:17.38 | modyn | i have problem during configuration of bitcoind |
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| 04:17.47 | modyn | configure: error: No working boost sleep implementation found. If on ubuntu 13.10 with libboost1.54-all-dev remove libboost.1.54-all-dev and use libboost1.53-all-dev |
| 04:17.47 | necrogami | murders his perc6i for being so damn slow |
| 04:17.52 | modyn | how do i fix this? |
| 04:18.10 | centrx | modyn, Uninstall those packages and re-install them from the Debian wheezy sources |
| 04:18.26 | modyn | i did |
| 04:19.00 | centrx | modyn, Find whatever package implements boost sleep |
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| 04:20.38 | somiaj | modyn: sorry, you were not clear that this is a new issue. You should have said that you were trying to configure some software to compile. You will have to goto the makers of that software and see what they say about getting it to work on debian wheezy. It could be the libbost in wheezy (1.49.0) is to old |
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| 04:20.59 | somiaj | modyn: apt-cache search libbost should help |
| 04:21.54 | modyn | empty |
| 04:21.58 | modyn | it says nothing |
| 04:22.07 | somiaj | oops there is two oo's (typo) |
| 04:23.13 | modyn | http://pastebin.com/3YJt2DLQ |
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| 04:24.13 | modyn | any idea? |
| 04:24.50 | somiaj | modyn: notice the only difference in the package name is the version, libboost1.49-all-dev |
| 04:25.10 | modyn | and.. |
| 04:25.27 | somiaj | modyn: again this may not be new enough and it could be the software you are tryign to use is not compdable with wheezy. |
| 04:25.27 | modyn | ? |
| 04:25.50 | modyn | somiaj i need some sleep |
| 04:25.52 | modyn | thank you bye |
| 04:25.56 | somiaj | install that libary, see if it works. If it doesn't don't know what ot say |
| 04:26.08 | modyn | libary libboost1.49-all-dev? |
| 04:26.59 | somiaj | yes that package |
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| 04:28.38 | dcosnet | i dont get angry all that easily but why the hell is gtk* droped from sid |
| 04:28.40 | dcosnet | -.- |
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| 04:53.59 | lucho | Hi! I'm trying to boot debian from an usb stick. I copied the debian.iso file into the usb stick and installed grub... when it boots prints "modprobe: module swap not found in modules.dep"... any idea? o.O |
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| 04:54.32 | abrotman | copied how? |
| 04:54.38 | Artemis3 | :3 |
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| 04:57.57 | Kurogane | Hello, any1 know what is the process .flush? |
| 04:57.58 | lucho | abrotman, "cp debian-live-7.4-i386-xfce-desktop.iso /media/USB/" |
| 04:59.08 | abrotman | Just asking .. |
| 04:59.19 | abrotman | Though, that sounds sliughtly wrong? |
| 04:59.49 | abrotman | IU haven't used the Live Images, but I would think you'd want to copy it to the device, not the filesystem |
| 05:00.00 | fhdrin | use dd |
| 05:00.19 | abrotman | it's not about dd or cp or anything else .. make sure it's the right device |
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| 05:01.37 | lucho | fhdrin, I did it... does not work :/ |
| 05:02.12 | lucho | fhdrin, when booting prints "isolinux.bin is corrupt" |
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| 05:03.32 | Reelax | on my laptop i installed wheezy from dvd iso and updated, only 1-2 files were downloaded. When i did an update to my PC , it asked me to download 100MB + files. This is weird. my PC was using the same iso when installed. |
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| 05:03.57 | Reelax | updated and upgraded * |
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| 05:35.32 | peterrooney | latest (stable) icedove update has altered functionality - new messages, instead of bolding the destination folder, both bolds it and change its colour, AND bolds and changes colour of the destination account. how to revert? |
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| 05:38.00 | wols | wouldn't it be easier to ask thunderbird folks? |
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| 05:43.36 | idstam | If I dual boot Debian and Windows: Is it possible to mount /home to the NTFS partition, or to a folder in the NTFS partition? |
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| 05:44.30 | nightfly | it's possible, but not reliable if you ever plan on using hybernate on the windows side |
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| 05:45.53 | idstam | Removeing Windows will add screaming kids :) |
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| 05:49.03 | idstam | I'm running Deb in a VW now. I don't think I can get the rest of the family to run Windows in a VM. |
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| 05:49.23 | idstam | Not in a VolksWagen :) in a VM |
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| 05:55.19 | shd338 | i am having some issues with my webcam that i can't solve after about a month of trying. the picture appears very dark, unless the camera is pointing directly at a source of light. even then anything but the lamp itself will be too dark to see. there must be some driver issue |
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| 06:02.36 | anton03 | is debian-mint a better operating system than ubuntu? |
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| 06:03.01 | wols | we don't know or care. we only care about debian, those are not |
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| 06:04.00 | anton03 | it's strange that you don't care seeing as one has a close affiliation with debian |
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| 06:04.42 | digdilem | one? |
| 06:04.54 | laurat | lmde |
| 06:05.36 | wols | anton03: it is not debian. |
| 06:05.38 | wols | !based on debian |
| 06:05.39 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 06:05.41 | digdilem | both are derived from debian. but "better" is subjective and a pointless phrase |
| 06:05.52 | peterrooney | anton03: it is not strange, as the affilitaion is not so close as you may believe. |
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| 06:06.09 | wols | anton03: so do you have a debian question? or do you want to ask about several linux distros? then I suggest #linux |
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| 06:16.22 | shd338 | anyone know what i can do about the webcam issue? adjusting brightness/contrast etc doesn't really help at all |
| 06:16.31 | shd338 | still very dark |
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| 06:22.56 | tete_ | can please someone tell me if there is 389 directory server for debian jessie available? |
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| 06:36.32 | phatypus | are you looking for open ldap? |
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| 06:52.19 | tnks | totally flustered. . . can't at all seem to get nouveau to stop loading upon bootup. |
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| 06:53.01 | tnks | tried /etc/modprobe.d blacklisting, kernel parameters, and also dracut.conf ommit_drivers. |
| 06:53.10 | tnks | (running dracut afterwards) |
| 06:53.33 | tnks | Googling has me running in circles. |
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| 06:56.13 | kambei | I'm not saying you should have to, but that would certainly prevent it from loading. |
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| 06:59.04 | tete_ | phatypus, no, 389 directory server |
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| 07:17.55 | Tasab | wols, still the libreoffice not installed as our previous discussion couple of days , yr assistance appreciated - tks |
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| 07:19.09 | wols | Tasab: try aptitude to install it, it might show you why it doesn't want to |
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| 07:21.31 | tete_ | unfortunately i can not get into #debian-next as it requires invitation |
| 07:21.42 | tete_ | guess its different in wheezy to setup a ldap server |
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| 07:26.24 | wols | tete_: it's on a different network, it's on oftc |
| 07:26.45 | wols | !tell tete_ about debian-next |
| 07:26.46 | tete_ | ah ok thanks |
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| 07:42.52 | tete_ | wols, thanks... got my answers in #debian-next |
| 07:42.58 | tete_ | no 389 in jessie yet |
| 07:43.22 | nightfly | 389? |
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| 07:44.37 | Tasab | wols, yes U R absolutely right , it was installed by using aptitude , thanks a lot |
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| 07:45.10 | softplay | hello |
| 07:45.27 | softplay | i have stil a problem with my wireless interface |
| 07:45.52 | softplay | i've configured the /etc/network/interface and wpa |
| 07:46.00 | softplay | and it seems to connect at boot |
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| 07:46.10 | softplay | cause it gets the address from the router |
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| 07:46.20 | softplay | but it's still not connecting to the web |
| 07:46.29 | softplay | can you help? |
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| 07:48.14 | wols | Tasab: what happened? aptitude just installed it without an issue? |
| 07:48.38 | wols | softplay: ping 8.8.8.8 and the output of /sbin/ifconfig maybe |
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| 07:49.56 | softplay | ping : Network is unreachable |
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| 07:50.57 | babilen | softplay: For *both* commands ? What do you have in your /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 07:51.13 | tete_ | nightfly, ldap server |
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| 07:52.37 | softplay | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/95804/ |
| 07:52.44 | babilen | wols: ^ |
| 07:53.16 | Tasab | wols, nope , the issues will pastebin to you , hold 4 a while . |
| 07:53.41 | babilen | softplay: And the output of "ifconfig -a" ? |
| 07:54.18 | rww | Hi. Per https://lwn.net/Articles/552920/ Debian stable gets new major versions of Iceweasel occasionally now. Is there a list somewhere of all packages that get this treatment (equivalent to Ubuntu's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions )? |
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| 07:55.25 | babilen | rww: I'm not aware of such a list, but I would expect it to exist somewhere. Ask in #debian-security on irc.debian.net (aka irc.oftc.net) if nobody knows more about it. |
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| 07:55.54 | softplay | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/95806/ |
| 07:55.55 | ledestin_ | X doesn't see my Monaco font, but fc-list does. Help |
| 07:55.57 | rww | babilen: thank you |
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| 07:56.02 | ledestin_ | please |
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| 07:57.19 | FlowRiser | softplay: there you are |
| 07:57.21 | babilen | ledestin_: How do you test if "X" sees it? |
| 07:57.31 | babilen | softplay: Did you try a "ifup wlan0" ? |
| 07:57.32 | ledestin_ | babilen: xlsfonts for example |
| 07:57.35 | FlowRiser | softplay: did you by chance upgrade recently? |
| 07:57.43 | babilen | ledestin_: That are different font handling mechanisms |
| 07:59.11 | softplay | yes i tryied |
| 07:59.15 | babilen | and? |
| 07:59.32 | softplay | ifup wlan0 |
| 07:59.33 | softplay | ifup: interface wlan0 already configured |
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| 08:00.04 | softplay | thw wlan= configuration shows up only with iwconfig |
| 08:00.08 | softplay | not with ifconfig |
| 08:00.32 | babilen | softplay: "ifdown wlan0 ; ifup wlan0" ? But it obviously wasn't configured as it wasn't listed. Did you paste the output of "ifconfig -a" or "/sbin/ifconfig" as requested by wols earlier (always include the commands!) |
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| 08:01.14 | ledestin_ | babilen: err, what should I do? |
| 08:01.14 | softplay | i pastes the output of infconfig -a |
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| 08:02.55 | FlowRiser | softplay: in my experience (quite recently) i could connect to the wireless card but could not reach the network or internet. My problem was an out of date kernel. Did you upgrade recently, do you boot up with the propper kernel? |
| 08:03.06 | softplay | but the poutput of the two commands is the same |
| 08:03.31 | softplay | i just installe the latest version FlowRiser |
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| 08:04.28 | FlowRiser | softplay: latest version of the kernel? |
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| 08:04.47 | softplay | yes |
| 08:04.47 | FlowRiser | please check with uname -r if you are using it |
| 08:04.54 | softplay | http://paste.debian.net/95808/ |
| 08:05.12 | softplay | the is the output of the commands babilen asked me |
| 08:05.19 | softplay | it doesn't find the nterface |
| 08:05.38 | softplay | but it is configuared in /etc/network/interface |
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| 08:05.46 | softplay | what should i do? |
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| 08:06.48 | softplay | babilen, ? |
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| 08:06.58 | babilen | softplay: Did you paste the output of "ifconfig -a" earlier? |
| 08:07.04 | softplay | yes i did |
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| 08:07.27 | Tasab | wols, for aptitude issue please have a look 2 this link http://pastebin.com/qjwBKPUG then let me know about yr comments , tks |
| 08:07.31 | babilen | softplay: Then your hardware is either not present or not recognised correctly. What kind of wlan adaptor do you have? |
| 08:08.07 | softplay | ralink |
| 08:08.10 | babilen | softplay: And what exactly do you mean by "latest version of the kernel" -- Which version did you install and how did you install it? |
| 08:08.20 | babilen | softplay: Is it a PCI or a USB one? |
| 08:08.26 | softplay | usb one |
| 08:08.42 | babilen | softplay: Which one exactly and could you answer the question about your kernel? |
| 08:08.58 | neo1691 | Hello! :) |
| 08:10.10 | softplay | i've a usb device |
| 08:10.32 | softplay | and what differenze does it make if there is a new version of the kernel? |
| 08:10.35 | babilen | Okay, could you run "lsusb" and give me the line pertaining to your wireless adaptor? |
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| 08:10.39 | softplay | the firmware is installed |
| 08:10.54 | babilen | softplay: It makes a massive difference so I would kindly ask you to answer my question. |
| 08:11.07 | softplay | maybe i should reintsll the firmware |
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| 08:11.21 | softplay | i've a 3.2 |
| 08:12.19 | softplay | but saying you which kernel i have will solve any of my problems? |
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| 08:12.34 | softplay | whi is the firmware not recognized? |
| 08:12.41 | softplay | is it a bad firmware? |
| 08:12.43 | babilen | softplay: That is not the latest kernel version at all, but the kernel version in wheezy. Okay, so: run "lsusb" and give us that output. Replug your USB adaptor and then run "dmesg|tail -n42" and include that along with the output of "uname -a" and "dpkg -l firmware-ralink" |
| 08:12.46 | softplay | i don't think so |
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| 08:12.54 | softplay | i could find anything in the web |
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| 08:13.03 | littlebit | hi people, I wanted to know how to mount a remote cifs share, copy some files from my laptop to that cifs share and disconnect. All this should be done via terminal. Now I was able to connect via smbclient but how do I copy my files to that share?? |
| 08:13.15 | softplay | ok babilen |
| 08:14.00 | babilen | softplay: Which firmware is not recognised? Why do you think that firmware is not being recognised? What did you refer to by your statement "i just installe the latest version" ? |
| 08:14.53 | softplay | i was only saying that i just installed it |
| 08:15.13 | softplay | so i don't know which is the problem but it should be the latest version |
| 08:15.55 | babilen | "it" refers to Debian rather than the kernel? |
| 08:16.01 | FlowRiser | softplay: the kernel is very important |
| 08:16.17 | softplay | it refers to debian yes |
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| 08:16.55 | FlowRiser | softplay: my advice is to update to the latest kernel manually |
| 08:17.01 | FlowRiser | latest is 3.13 |
| 08:17.05 | babilen | ... |
| 08:17.20 | neo1691 | I wanted to set a virtual machine, I allocated 8GB virtual disk, partitioned it as 1GB for / partition 6GB for /home and 1MB for /boot partition. Now / has filled up and I cannot install any packages. I need to shrink /home and make more space for /. Can I do that. Here is the output of lsblk http://bpaste.net/show/23637/ |
| 08:17.22 | littlebit | anyone? |
| 08:18.33 | FlowRiser | softplay: a good practice is that you upgrade your kernel before anything else |
| 08:19.08 | softplay | look http://paste.debian.net/95811/ |
| 08:19.19 | softplay | it says reinstall required |
| 08:19.25 | babilen | FlowRiser: Good practice? A lot of people would run havoc if I upgrade the kernel on their boxes to debug every single problem. |
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| 08:19.50 | neo1691 | And / and /home partitions are formatted as ext4 |
| 08:19.59 | babilen | softplay: That looks fine .. now kindly include the the rest of the output I asked for |
| 08:20.33 | babilen | neo1691: Your paste is not available |
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| 08:22.09 | babilen | littlebit: https://wiki.debian.org/SAMBAClientSetup -- can't you use a file manager such as nautilus? Also look into mount.cifs |
| 08:22.19 | neo1691 | babilen: http://bpaste.net/show/236375/ |
| 08:22.39 | neo1691 | Sorry the 5 at the end was missed! |
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| 08:22.51 | FlowRiser | babilen: it seems that he has his drivers all set up, partially working, and assuming the device works that only leaves the kernel. Before any upgrade, you should at least download the latest kernel, just in case you have an important driver that won't work on the old one. It happens sometimes |
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| 08:22.57 | littlebit | babilen: that is when you have something static |
| 08:23.17 | littlebit | babilen: in my case I have something temporary |
| 08:23.27 | babilen | FlowRiser: I still don't even know which wireless adaptor softplay is using |
| 08:23.54 | wakd_ | I make a custom wheezy live-build to boot a laptop. It has hw clock on local time. So I need 'hwclock --localtime --hctosys' somewhere in init. But I don't know init scripts well, I only ever used /etc/rc.local. Any tip for a proper place to put it, earlier? |
| 08:24.01 | babilen | And unfortunately (?) softplay decided to leave the channel without providing any of requested output, so ... |
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| 08:24.19 | ledestin_ | babilen: xset fp rehash |
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| 08:25.35 | babilen | ledestin_: Ah, wonderful -- wasn't aware of that necessity. Thanks for sharing it! |
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| 08:26.58 | babilen | neo1691: I take it that you didn't use LVM and that, if you did, you have to unallocated space left? |
| 08:27.07 | babilen | s/to/no |
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| 08:28.14 | neo1691 | Nope! No lvm! I have lvm on my host, but I wanted to make a quick virtual machine for ssh, no lvm on guest |
| 08:29.15 | mingtsay | I want my debian pc to be a gateway, have 2 network interfaces, anyone knows how? |
| 08:29.48 | afsal | is possible to run gui in tty1 ? |
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| 08:30.18 | mingtsay | my interfaces are eth0, eth1, lo, ppp0 |
| 08:30.54 | evilman_home | mingtsay: enable forwarding and setup nat. |
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| 08:31.26 | babilen | neo1691: Sure - in that case you will have to do it the hard way: 1. Shrink (unmounted!) filesystems with resize2fs 2. Change partition sizes to reflect your change in filesystem size 3. Grow other filesystem to new size. -- All of this is probably best done with something like (g)parted, but I would just bite the bullet and use LVM rather than rely on horrible partitions for this. |
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| 08:31.56 | babilen | neo1691: It should go without saying that you need proper backups of any data you value |
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| 08:36.13 | mingtsay | evilman_home: thanks, I'll try and will be back if any problem |
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| 08:42.12 | neo1691 | babilen: Thanks! No data whatsoever, only thing is I installed the base system from my ever costly mobile data plan, and I just want to preserve that! |
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| 08:58.24 | afsal | is possible to run gui from tty1 |
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| 09:02.35 | afsal | can i run gui softwares from tty |
| 09:03.02 | stack | mh cool, I didn't know about make deb-pkg target on new kernels, is make-kpkg tool somewhat discouraged or deprecated? |
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| 09:08.08 | fcp13 | hello, anyone can help |
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| 09:08.27 | fcp13 | i have an error after apt-get upgrade |
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| 09:08.43 | fcp13 | with fontconfig bus error |
| 09:09.17 | afsal | fcp13: give detail about your problem |
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| 09:09.36 | fcp13 | i've checked /var/log/fontconfig.log |
| 09:09.57 | fcp13 | and only have Bus error |
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| 09:10.45 | fcp13 | and fontconfig.log /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1: Bus error |
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| 09:11.00 | fcp13 | i'm using jessie |
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| 09:12.16 | fcp13 | http://pastebin.com/j3Y1L8cp |
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| 09:13.14 | fcp13 | this is the error i have when i apt-get upgrade they try to install fontconfig and the regenerating gont cache failed |
| 09:13.19 | fcp13 | *font |
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| 09:14.28 | Reelax | weird things going on with my debian instance : http://paste.kde.org/pfnseelwi |
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| 09:15.27 | Reelax | this is my sources file content : http://paste.kde.org/pnk3xotzt |
| 09:15.36 | Reelax | already updated and upgraded. |
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| 09:16.18 | fcp13 | afsal i think is the same but of https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=722300 |
| 09:16.36 | Reelax | my sources file got problem i got it :( |
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| 09:17.56 | fcp13 | Reelax please try |
| 09:18.01 | fcp13 | first run apt-get update |
| 09:18.10 | fcp13 | and then apt-get install rsync |
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| 09:39.35 | rhine_heart | hello.. can any1 tell me the reason why a package cannot be installed due to has sum mismatch error? |
| 09:39.52 | rhine_heart | *hash sum mismatch |
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| 09:42.08 | Nik05 | rhine_heart can be multiple things, do you have some more information? |
| 09:42.43 | rhine_heart | I'm installing mongodb and I got that error |
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| 09:42.59 | Nik05 | can you give us output? |
| 09:43.03 | Nik05 | paste.debian.net |
| 09:45.11 | rhine_heart | http://paste.debian.net/95817/ |
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| 09:45.30 | Nik05 | thats not debian |
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| 09:47.11 | Nik05 | ,v mongodb |
| 09:47.12 | judd | Package: mongodb on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.4.4-3; squeeze-backports: 1:2.0.0-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:2.0.6-1.1; wheezy-backports: 1:2.4.8-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:2.4.10-1; sid: 1:2.4.10-1 |
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| 09:49.40 | rhine_heart | I see.. I tried installing this... http://wiki.ubnt.com/UniFi#Debian_.28Squeeze.29 |
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| 09:51.34 | Nik05 | are you on squeeze? |
| 09:52.51 | rhine_heart | yes. I am. |
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| 09:56.01 | Nik05 | rhine_heart doesnt look like ubnt support linux anymore |
| 09:57.16 | rhine_heart | I don't think so.. http://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Beta/UniFi-3-1-10-RC-is-Released/m-p/739939#U739939 |
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| 09:57.39 | Nik05 | thank link doesnt work |
| 09:58.07 | ewooy | If i have a problem related to postgres not starting / correctly installing on debian should it be posted in #postgres or here? |
| 09:58.08 | rhine_heart | you tried that one too? |
| 09:58.34 | Nik05 | eqyiel you can ask here |
| 09:59.20 | Nik05 | well rhine_heart i think you should ask for suppport at ubiquiti |
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| 10:00.19 | rhine_heart | yeah. I did. Just waiting for reply. That's the reason why I asked a general question at first. |
| 10:00.38 | Nik05 | but if you need mongodb its also in squeeze |
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| 10:05.00 | MoonGNatRouth | hey, gays. I've got a 32-bit kernel. I just have made 64-bit kernel. But when It starts - "... Failed to execute /init (error -8) ... /bin/sh exists but couldn't execute it (error -8)". Internet writes that it's because initramfs is 32-bit. So how can I make 64-bit initramfs? (I have used update-initramfs -c -k 3.14... ) |
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| 10:07.05 | babilen | s/gays/guys/ ? |
| 10:07.13 | Nik05 | same difference babilen :P |
| 10:07.19 | babilen | heh |
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| 10:07.52 | Nik05 | MoonGNatRouth maybe because the rest of your system is 32bit? |
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| 10:09.35 | _ke | for the recent owncloud i need support for the http patch method in lighttpd. the version in wheezy/stable (1.4.31) does not have support, however the one in testing/jessie has (1.4.35). as i don't see thath package available as a backport for wheezy, would you recommend to add it from testing or build a patched version myself |
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| 10:10.48 | SynrG | Why make your own 64 bit kernel? Debian includes a perfectly good one |
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| 10:11.14 | MoonGNatRouth | Nik05, I forgot to ask "is It possible to have different kernel capacity. |
| 10:11.30 | Nik05 | i have no idea |
| 10:11.32 | MoonGNatRouth | SynrG, I need 2.14 - kernel. The are no in backports |
| 10:11.38 | SynrG | !tell _ke about ssb |
| 10:11.53 | MoonGNatRouth | SynrG, sorry. 3.14* |
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| 10:12.18 | babilen | MoonGNatRouth: You can use a 64bit kernel with 32bit userland just fine. Compiling Debian kernels is detailed in http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html |
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| 10:13.07 | _ke | SynrG, i know how to build a deb package. the question is what you would recommend |
| 10:13.11 | SynrG | ,kernels |
| 10:13.12 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.14-trunk-686-pae (3.14.1-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.10-1); jessie: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.10-1); wheezy-backports: 3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.13.10-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.54-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze5) |
| 10:13.34 | SynrG | Mixing testing is not supported |
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| 10:14.27 | afsal | how to a single gui software from tty1 |
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| 10:14.47 | MoonGNatRouth | judd, I've got wheezy |
| 10:14.55 | Nik05 | judd is a bot |
| 10:15.06 | MoonGNatRouth | oh.. =) |
| 10:15.16 | babilen | _ke: We would probably recommend to backport the 3.14-trunk-686-pae kernel from experimental -- you seem to have simply compiled your own kernel locally, but didn't generate a fitting initramfs for it. http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-initramfs.html should discuss that aspect, but I am unfortunate not too sure how to achieve what you are trying to achieve right now without reading that documentation myself. |
| 10:15.34 | SynrG | Afsal: startx takes an x client as it's first argument |
| 10:16.11 | _ke | babilen, you probably are referring to Nik05, not me |
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| 10:16.44 | babilen | _ke: Err, no ... but definitely not you :) |
| 10:16.44 | Nik05 | he meant MoonGNatRouth |
| 10:16.48 | babilen | MoonGNatRouth: ^^^^^^^ |
| 10:16.53 | jelly-home | MoonGNatRouth: initramfs would still contain 32bit userspace bits on a 32bit debian installation. It sounds as if your kernel may not have support for 32bit userspace enabled. |
| 10:16.53 | afsal | SynrG: But startx will run complete environment |
| 10:16.59 | SynrG | No |
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| 10:17.21 | SynrG | Not if you specify an z client as the first argument |
| 10:17.26 | SynrG | X* |
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| 10:17.48 | afsal | SynrG: I can't understand pls give an example |
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| 10:18.25 | afsal | now, if i want run xlogo only what i do |
| 10:18.35 | afsal | SynrG: now, if i want run xlogo only what i do |
| 10:18.37 | SynrG | startx /usr/bin/xlogo |
| 10:18.56 | jelly-home | MoonGNatRouth: is CONFIG_X86=y ? |
| 10:18.57 | SynrG | afsal: see the startx man page |
| 10:19.18 | MoonGNatRouth | jelly-home, w8 a second. I'll check |
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| 10:19.48 | afsal | SynrG: yeah got it |
| 10:20.00 | afsal | SynrG: thanks... :) |
| 10:20.06 | SynrG | np |
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| 10:20.30 | MoonGNatRouth | jelly-home, CONFIG_X86=y , CONFIG_X86_64=y |
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| 10:22.47 | afsal | SynrG: How it make more real |
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| 10:22.57 | MoonGNatRouth | jelly-home, CONFIG_X86_MINIMUM_CPU_FAMILY=64. This isn't it? |
| 10:23.01 | SynrG | afsal: ... ? |
| 10:23.41 | afsal | SynrG: it has no close button and also mouse is not working |
| 10:23.43 | jelly-home | MoonGNatRouth: nope. Debian's amd64 kernel has this as well and it works with 32bit userspace. |
| 10:23.57 | SynrG | afsal: you said *just* an application |
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| 10:24.12 | SynrG | mouse should work fine, though |
| 10:24.29 | SynrG | afsal: maybe you didn't mean 'just'? |
| 10:24.49 | SynrG | (well, you said 'single') |
| 10:25.04 | MoonGNatRouth | jelly-home, I have Intel atom =) |
| 10:25.10 | SynrG | afsal: maybe you were unaware that the window manager is actually responsible for window placement, decorations, etc.? |
| 10:25.33 | SynrG | afsal: use a lightweight window manager like openbox or so. |
| 10:25.41 | SynrG | afsal: get it to autostart your one application. |
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| 10:26.11 | SynrG | afsal: are you trying to build a kiosk application or something? it would be good to know what you're trying to do :) |
| 10:28.50 | afsal | SynrG: no... just fun |
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| 10:30.05 | afsal | SynrG: But i think login directly to tty1 and use single programs instead of running whole environment |
| 10:30.08 | SynrG | afsal: it is possible to start a single application, fullscreen and it should 'just work'. xbmc, for instance. you don't really need a WM |
| 10:30.31 | SynrG | you don't need window decorations |
| 10:30.47 | SynrG | and as for the mouse, so long as the pointer is inside the window it has focus (hence, 'run it fullscreen') |
| 10:31.09 | SynrG | and so long as the app doesn't make transient dialog boxes, everything should look fine |
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| 10:32.32 | afsal | SynrG: when i'm installing xbmc is that cause any problem for metacity |
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| 10:33.08 | MoonGNatRouth | babilen, thx for link =) |
| 10:36.50 | afsal | SynrG: ok... leave it i'm not really going to do that :) |
| 10:36.55 | SynrG | afsal: no. Why should it? Do you really need xbmc? I just gave that as an example of one application that is useful to start that way |
| 10:37.04 | SynrG | OK |
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| 10:43.05 | afsal | anybody read 'The linux programming interface' by Michael Kerrisks |
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| 10:44.13 | SynrG | No. And #debian-offtopic |
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| 10:44.52 | afsal | oh sorry... ;) |
| 10:45.03 | linuxator | is awesome supported? |
| 10:45.26 | abrotman | judd: info awesome |
| 10:45.28 | judd | Package awesome (x11, optional) in wheezy/i386: highly configurable X window manager. Version: 3.4.13-1; Size: 841.8k; Installed: 2142k; Homepage: http://awesome.naquadah.org; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/awesome |
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| 10:49.01 | lucasa | ciao |
| 10:49.05 | lucasa | !list |
| 10:49.05 | dpkg | lucasa: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 10:53.54 | mingtsay | dpkg: please translate… |
| 10:53.54 | dpkg | mingtsay: i haven't a clue |
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| 11:01.16 | Nik05 | mingtsay dpkg is a bot. And it probably said something in italian or spanning like "shut the fuck up" |
| 11:01.22 | Nik05 | spannish* |
| 11:02.28 | Nik05 | or maybe it didnt. no idea what it responded too :P (normally it are italian or spannish that spam !list everywhere) |
| 11:02.40 | mingtsay | Nik05: oh… I know it is a bot but why it always says in the languages that I can't read? |
| 11:02.58 | Arangart | hi all! i have a problem. i want install firefox to debian 7. instruction: http://habrahabr.ru/sandbox/63921/ . I have a problem with TAR archivator: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7336603/ |
| 11:03.06 | Nik05 | isnt it always english? |
| 11:03.17 | cromag | dpkg: images |
| 11:03.17 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
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| 11:05.01 | Tachyon` | dpkg, firmware images |
| 11:05.01 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 11:05.07 | Nik05 | mingtsay well the !list reponse is something like "shut up" but then little friendlier :P |
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| 11:10.31 | abrotman | Arangart: why not use iceweasel? |
| 11:10.43 | abrotman | Nik05: It does not say that |
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| 11:11.19 | Nik05 | no abrotman ? |
| 11:11.32 | Arangart | <abrotman> i dont like him |
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| 11:12.32 | abrotman | Arangart: it's the same as Firefox |
| 11:12.50 | abrotman | Nik05: no |
| 11:13.13 | Nik05 | arent it the italians who spam !list everywhere? isnt that reponse to it? |
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| 11:13.51 | abrotman | Nik05: No, but you can keep pretending if you like. |
| 11:14.21 | Nik05 | oh ok :) |
| 11:14.40 | Nik05 | but then why does it respond in italian abrotman / |
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| 11:26.11 | mingtsay | anyone know how to setup a DHCPv6? I need v4 and v6 in the same time. |
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| 11:28.27 | mingtsay | my error is 「/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf line 16: subnet6 statement is only supported in DHCPv6 mode」 |
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| 11:31.27 | average | stormy2: sup ? |
| 11:31.37 | average | stormy2: are you inside a zfs now ? :P |
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| 11:39.17 | mingtsay | isc-dhcp-server said that cannot run v4 and v6 at the same time. |
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| 11:51.42 | Reelax | just installed debian 7.4 i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade , my box is not really updated. any idea why ? |
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| 11:54.10 | trintron | hii |
| 11:54.16 | abrotman | Reelax: "not really" ? |
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| 11:54.39 | wakd_ | ^^ nevermind, I found tzselect. Turns out I was using a valid tz anyway, am hitting some other as yet unidentified problem. |
| 11:54.56 | trintron | what data recovery app is best for both debian and windows |
| 11:55.07 | mingtsay | Reelax: is there any error message? |
| 11:55.21 | abrotman | trintron: backups |
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| 11:55.48 | trintron | also, is there any sites that list top rated apps category wise? |
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| 11:56.16 | woshty | trintron: Do you mean like a backup or like an undelete? |
| 11:56.20 | trintron | abrotman: the backup is app or a suggestion |
| 11:56.35 | trintron | actually, formatted a partition , |
| 11:56.51 | trintron | want to recover from formated partition |
| 11:57.35 | buu | trintron: You wrote a new filesystem to it or just deleted the partition? |
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| 11:57.52 | trintron | buu: i deleted partition and made new |
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| 11:58.11 | abrotman | Right, restore from backup |
| 11:58.20 | buu | Recovering deleted partitions is pretty trivial if you haven't written new data to that partition.. |
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| 11:58.51 | trintron | abrotman: unfortunately i was asked when i had alreayd made new partition |
| 11:59.31 | trintron | buu: you are right, look like i need a real good recovery tool for that now |
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| 12:00.49 | trintron | i hope you guys can suggest the best app for recovery from format |
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| 12:05.12 | trintron | does debain have any data recovery tool? |
| 12:05.19 | abrotman | yes, many |
| 12:05.26 | abrotman | dpkg: tell trintron about search |
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| 12:05.34 | trintron | please tell me which one is best |
| 12:05.41 | trintron | ok |
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| 12:34.52 | ajrs | Anyone else using twm? |
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| 12:35.27 | abrotman | no one at all |
| 12:35.34 | ajrs | tab window manager? |
| 12:35.38 | ajrs | I'm using it at the moment |
| 12:35.53 | ompaul | no just think you are :) do you have a real question |
| 12:36.09 | ajrs | I just think I am? |
| 12:36.29 | ajrs | I created my own .twmrc |
| 12:36.38 | ajrs | and I'm using feh for my background |
| 12:37.07 | ajrs | I don't understand "think you are" |
| 12:37.19 | MrFrood | ajrs: we all upgraded to vtwm a long time ago :-| |
| 12:37.50 | ompaul | ajrs: do you have a question? |
| 12:37.50 | ajrs | What's wrong with twm |
| 12:38.00 | abrotman | wrong? |
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| 12:38.20 | ajrs | how to configure xdm for twm |
| 12:38.25 | ajrs | default install screws it |
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| 12:38.34 | ajrs | I log in, then goes back to xdm screen |
| 12:38.57 | somiaj | ajrs: default uses your $HOME/.xsession file, do you have that set up for twm? |
| 12:39.18 | ajrs | no, is that just like an .xinitrc? |
| 12:39.18 | ompaul | ajrs: this one http://www.leidinger.net/X/xdm.html |
| 12:39.40 | somiaj | ajrs: except that it is honored by display manageres while .xinitrc is only honored by xinit (or startx) |
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| 12:44.07 | ajrs | brb |
| 12:44.09 | ajrs | testing |
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| 12:47.40 | modyn | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 12:47.40 | modyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.40 | modyn | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 12:47.45 | modyn | how do i fix this? |
| 12:48.26 | sysvalve | are you mixing release versions_ |
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| 12:48.32 | somiaj | modyn: sounds like you are mixing sources again, what is the output of 'apt-cache policy' -- put this at paste.debian.net |
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| 12:48.46 | somiaj | modyn: I told you not to do this last night. You have to ensure you only use debian wheezy sources/software |
| 12:48.53 | modyn | i change it |
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| 12:49.13 | modyn | http://pastebin.com/BHp6Sa5f |
| 12:49.19 | somiaj | modyn: did you finish doing what I said and go remove all the packages you installed from sid that could be still on your system |
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| 12:49.45 | modyn | thats already done yes |
| 12:49.57 | somiaj | you still have non-wheezy packages on your system |
| 12:50.03 | modyn | no |
| 12:50.07 | somiaj | !tell modyn about not available |
| 12:50.07 | sysvalve | aptitude/apt-get update? |
| 12:50.18 | somiaj | ,v git-man |
| 12:50.19 | judd | Package: git-man on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:1.9.2-1; experimental: 1:2.0~next.20140318-1; experimental: 1:2.0~next.20140404-1; experimental: 1:2.0~next.20140415-1; sid: 1:2.0.0~rc0-1; sid: 1:2.0.0~rc0-2; experimental: |
| 12:50.20 | judd | 1:2.0.0~rc0+next.20140422-1 |
| 12:50.39 | sysvalve | modyn: apt-cache policy git-man_ |
| 12:50.51 | sysvalve | sorry, the last underscore is a typo |
| 12:51.14 | modyn | git-man: |
| 12:51.14 | modyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.14 | modyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.15 | somiaj | for some reason your machine is still trying to install the sid version or you have other things that are sid, that factoid I sent you run it. It will list all the packages on your system that are not in wheezy. You will have to manually fix every single one of those packges |
| 12:51.19 | modyn | i just uninstall it |
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| 12:51.41 | sysvalve | maybe you need to aptitude / apt-get update as well |
| 12:51.47 | modyn | i did |
| 12:51.49 | somiaj | modyn: correct, you have the sid version installed just like I said, you didn't run that not available factoid command to find all the sid packages on your machine and downgrade them to wheezy. This will be a pain and require you do all the work. |
| 12:52.20 | modyn | somiaj: what file you want pastebin? |
| 12:52.50 | somiaj | modyn: the bot dpkg sent you a private measssge, in it is an aptitude command. I want you to run that (you dont' need to pastebin it) |
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| 12:53.22 | somiaj | modyn: that command will list all the packages on your system that are not from wheezy and most likley from sid. You will have to manually (apt may not help you here) downgrade every single one of those packages to wheeys version. |
| 12:53.58 | modyn | how? |
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| 12:54.21 | somiaj | !tell modyn about partial downgrade |
| 12:54.51 | modyn | somiaj may I PM you? |
| 12:55.15 | trintron | may i ask the best app name for data recovery, i could not find rating on net. |
| 12:56.11 | trintron | it is hard to find good data recovery tool |
| 12:56.11 | somiaj | modyn: no, really you are on the fringe of support. I have told ya what is wrong and how to fix it. I am not going to tell you much more than that. Again I think a reinstall would be the best bet |
| 12:56.15 | frostschutz | trintron, ddrescue/testdisk/photorec? depends a lot on what you need to recover and why |
| 12:56.43 | modyn | Anybody who can help me with this small changes. MSG ME, I send you some bitcoins (30$) as thanks:) /msg me |
| 12:57.10 | trintron | frostschutz: thanks alot for those names. need to recover data from delete partitions. for both ext4 and ntfs |
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| 12:58.05 | ajrs | brb |
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| 12:58.44 | ajrs | Ok, xdm is working now. |
| 12:58.47 | ajrs | Thank you. |
| 12:58.49 | modyn | how do i fix my sources.list? |
| 12:58.53 | trintron | frostschutz: i had dual boot system with debain and win7 but after i had deleted partions i was told that the backup was on the D drive :) told my friend to keep backup somewhere else. |
| 12:59.00 | ajrs | modyn, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:59.03 | ajrs | edit that file |
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| 12:59.59 | modyn | ajrs: http://pastebin.com/B9abNbBf |
| 13:00.05 | modyn | how does it look? |
| 13:00.11 | modyn | you have any better links for me? |
| 13:00.33 | ajrs | What's the problem with the list? |
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| 13:00.49 | modyn | nothing |
| 13:01.03 | ajrs | :O |
| 13:01.04 | modyn | somiaj tells me its too old |
| 13:01.14 | ajrs | oh |
| 13:01.25 | ajrs | what version of debian do you have? |
| 13:01.30 | modyn | 7 |
| 13:01.35 | ajrs | . what? |
| 13:01.42 | modyn | just 7 |
| 13:02.21 | modyn | Linux modyn 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 13:03.19 | ajrs | type lsb_release -a |
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| 13:03.40 | modyn | Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.4 (wheezy) |
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| 13:03.47 | ajrs | hmm |
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| 13:06.31 | ajrs | modyn, I can create a sources.list for you |
| 13:06.33 | ajrs | hang on |
| 13:06.48 | wols | modyn: it's not the sources.list that is your problem. it's the leftover packages from sid that you have |
| 13:06.55 | wols | ajrs: why? that sources.list is fine |
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| 13:07.02 | ajrs | That's what I thought |
| 13:07.10 | ajrs | but I just installed 7.4 |
| 13:07.18 | ajrs | so default list :) |
| 13:07.28 | wols | so why do you want to create a new one if you thought it's fine. what he has, IS the default |
| 13:07.38 | ajrs | ok whatev |
| 13:07.57 | ajrs | leftover packages? |
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| 13:08.14 | wols | yes, modyn has mixed wheezy and sid, which as always leads to tears |
| 13:08.32 | ajrs | mixed? |
| 13:08.43 | wols | !frankendebian |
| 13:08.43 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 13:12.05 | ajrs | ouch http://i.imgur.com/n8Spr.gif |
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| 13:12.46 | ajrs | how do I upgrade to jessie |
| 13:12.49 | ajrs | when she comes out |
| 13:12.54 | ajrs | ? |
| 13:12.55 | abrotman | ask when it comes out |
| 13:12.59 | modyn | look |
| 13:12.59 | ajrs | ok |
| 13:13.03 | dvs | ajrs: read the release notes. |
| 13:13.06 | abrotman | the instructions may change between now and then |
| 13:13.10 | ajrs | ok |
| 13:13.29 | ajrs | any rough timeframe for realse? |
| 13:13.33 | ajrs | release* |
| 13:13.39 | dvs | !wwjr |
| 13:13.40 | dpkg | I have no idea when Debian 8.0 "Jessie" will release -- when it's ready, I guess, but I do know about the <jessie freeze>. For user contributed guesses on when it will release, ask me about <jessie pool 1>. See also <release goals>, <wir>. |
| 13:13.43 | abrotman | ajrs: no |
| 13:13.59 | abrotman | "2015" |
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| 13:14.45 | ajrs | oh modyn mixed testing with stable |
| 13:14.48 | ajrs | bad boy |
| 13:14.51 | ajrs | baaad bad boy |
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| 13:15.19 | abrotman | ajrs: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 13:15.34 | ajrs | um |
| 13:15.47 | ajrs | twm help, if you know any config tricks |
| 13:15.54 | abrotman | I bet they do in #twm |
| 13:16.16 | ajrs | nope |
| 13:16.18 | ajrs | 0 users |
| 13:16.37 | abrotman | not 0 |
| 13:16.39 | ajrs | he's dead jim |
| 13:16.50 | ajrs | me and modyn just joined |
| 13:17.00 | ajrs | before that 0 |
| 13:17.02 | abrotman | ajrs: you're being pretty noisy, could you work on that? |
| 13:17.18 | abrotman | ajrs: Additionally, the Enter key is not a substitute for commas |
| 13:17.46 | ajrs | right |
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| 13:23.00 | converge | how can I check if a module is being loaded at boot time ? |
| 13:23.02 | klrr_ | hmm i installed ioquake3 but there's no exectuable in my PATH, do i need previlages for games group? |
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| 13:23.21 | abrotman | klrr_: dpkg -L ioquake3 .. look for the binary |
| 13:23.23 | abrotman | converge: instead of? |
| 13:23.49 | converge | abrotman: what..? |
| 13:24.04 | abrotman | converge: loaded at boot time instead of what other kind of loaded? |
| 13:24.14 | abrotman | converge: lsmod will show you all loaded modules |
| 13:24.17 | converge | abrotman: standalone |
| 13:25.04 | klrr_ | abrotman: thanks, strange enough though it only installed libraries :s |
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| 13:32.56 | Extensa5630G | what is the ' Linux mint's debian import repository' ? |
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| 13:33.16 | Extensa5630G | i know debian's repositories, but what's that?does debian use some of linux mint's repositories? |
| 13:34.06 | NiLon | I would guess mint uses debian repo |
| 13:34.16 | NiLon | or can use |
| 13:34.42 | wols | Extensa5630G: no debian does not. and for mint questions, you need to ask mint, not debian |
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| 13:36.29 | somiaj | Extensa5630G: dno't mix, either use LMDE and their repos and their support or use debian releases. |
| 13:36.49 | Extensa5630G | wols: so that's what you think?i seem to be asking wrongly about mint in debian?you're so ugly, get the heck out of my face |
| 13:37.01 | forcer | O_o |
| 13:37.04 | dvs | SynrG: he's back |
| 13:37.04 | Extensa5630G | somiaj: i was reading an article about installing firefox |
| 13:37.14 | Extensa5630G | https://thestandardoutput.com/2013/06/install-the-real-firefox-on-debian-7/ |
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| 13:37.35 | Extensa5630G | it was mentioned that i have to use mint's repositories for installing firefox a,nyuway |
| 13:37.37 | Extensa5630G | *anyway |
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| 13:40.07 | Reelax | abrotman: it only updated 1-2 files on laptop. when i updated my PC it did many. PC and laptop both installed from Debian 7.4 ISO. |
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| 13:40.49 | Reelax | i remember PC did openssl update at least. How can i really make sure my laptop is upto date ? |
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| 13:41.07 | somiaj | Reelax: 7.4 -> 7.5 only contains a few upgrades. If you already had all the security upgrades like you should you won't get them when upgrading to 7.5 |
| 13:41.24 | somiaj | Reelax: it seems that your desktop wasn't being upgraded for security issues while your laptop was. |
| 13:41.40 | mintux | i get this error always perl: warning: Setting locale failed. http://codepad.org/EI1rEBEG i did all thing i found from internet but this error doesn't disappear . what should i do? |
| 13:41.49 | Reelax | somiaj: PC did, laptop not. |
| 13:42.11 | somiaj | Reelax: i.e. you should have gotten the libssl and other security upgrades from security.debian.org, they are only just pushed into the main repos during the point release (a few other things are added though) |
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| 13:43.48 | somiaj | mintux: apt-get install locales && dpkg-reconfigure locales -- choose the ones that best firt your needs |
| 13:43.59 | mintux | somiaj: i did it a lot |
| 13:44.23 | Reelax | somiaj: then i will check libssl package versions and see if it's upto date. |
| 13:44.34 | somiaj | Reelax: dpkg -l libssl1.0.0 |
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| 13:44.53 | somiaj | Reelax: the version should be like +deb7u7 or something like that, or you can compare the versions on the two systems |
| 13:45.05 | somiaj | mintux: what does 'i did it a lot' mean? |
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| 13:45.14 | Reelax | will do now, debian site says : libssl-dev (1.0.1e-2+deb7u7) |
| 13:45.50 | mintux | somiaj: i run the command you gave me before ( i found it from internet ) but this error doesn't disappear . ok i do it again |
| 13:46.12 | modyn | somiaj i need some fix my vps |
| 13:46.16 | modyn | how do i do? |
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| 13:47.18 | somiaj | mintux: once you run those commands (this is really a debian system right and not some derivative like ubuntu) those commands should set your default locales and those warnings should stop comming. It might be you just dnot have the en_CA.utf8 locales generated. Did you go and select the locales you wanted fromt he list you get form 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and generate the ones you wanted? |
| 13:47.45 | somiaj | modyn: until you fix what was broken by ading sid sources there is not much we can do. Again I have sent you the command to search your machine for all non wheezy packages and said you ahve to manually downgrade them. |
| 13:48.01 | mintux | somiaj: it was because of connecting via ssh to server |
| 13:48.53 | somiaj | mintux: then the server you are connecnting too needs it locales fixed or you need to reset your locale settings for the server. |
| 13:49.35 | mintux | somiaj: i removed the line AcceptEnv LANG LC_* in sshd config |
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| 13:54.16 | Reelax | somiaj: i found two versions of openssl-dev ( Version: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 and Version: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u4 ) |
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| 13:55.36 | sparky4 | sobs over nvidia drivers and the 3.13 linux update in jessie |
| 13:56.03 | somiaj | Reelax: what do you mean by that? You wont' have two versions on the same system or is one system upgraded and the other not? |
| 13:56.31 | somiaj | sparky4: welcome to testing, though nvidia is working just fine for me here on sid |
| 13:56.42 | somiaj | Reelax: the Version: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u4 is not up to date |
| 13:56.47 | Reelax | somiaj: im talking about my laptop only. yeah i dont need two versions of the same package but it's there. |
| 13:57.13 | Reelax | how to get rid of unnecessary ones ? |
| 13:57.16 | somiaj | Reelax: you cannot have two versions installed. Do you mean you have both debs still sitting in /var/cache/apt/archives? This is not what is installed but mearly stuff you have downloaded? |
| 13:57.28 | somiaj | Reelax: what does dpkg -l openssl-dev say you have installed? |
| 13:57.32 | sparky4 | somiaj: >< |
| 13:57.54 | somiaj | sparky4: I did notice a nvidia upgrade and do know some people are having issues with it and 3.13 (including from backports) |
| 13:57.58 | somiaj | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 13:57.59 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.88-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates/non-free: 304.117-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.82-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 331.49-1; sid/non-free: 331.67-1; experimental/non-free: 334.21-1 |
| 13:58.26 | somiaj | sparky4: at this time it wouldn't be a big issue to try and install the required nvidia packages from sid and see if they build jsut fine against your kernel |
| 13:58.28 | sparky4 | somiaj: it is the 304xx legacy drivers |
| 13:58.44 | somiaj | oh, then you may just be out of luck there |
| 13:59.09 | somiaj | not sure if much work will be done to make the legacy drivers compile against newer kernels. Maybe after the freeze |
| 13:59.59 | sparky4 | ok |
| 14:00.14 | somiaj | sparky4: note, you may have the old 3.12 kenel still sitting in /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 14:00.30 | sparky4 | that may work too |
| 14:00.44 | somiaj | sparky4: you can also use snapshot.debian.org to get old packages for testing/unstable that are no longer on the main mirrors. That may be the best solution right now if you want to run nvidia non-free legacy drivers |
| 14:00.57 | somiaj | or you could see if nouveau will work for you (should be fine unless you like 3d games) |
| 14:01.57 | Reelax | somiaj: http://i.imgur.com/9uWAmHb.png |
| 14:02.35 | somiaj | Reelax: note dpkg -l lists installed apckages, apt-cache show lists available packages. |
| 14:02.54 | somiaj | Reelax: can you put the output of 'apt-cache policy' and 'apt-cache policy libssl-dev' at paste.debian.net |
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| 14:03.26 | Reelax | ok so according to the pic, it's not installed right ? |
| 14:03.33 | Reelax | let me see what you asked... |
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| 14:04.06 | somiaj | Reelax: yes but I'm a bit worried that you have two versions sitting in your apt-cache, please give me the output of said commands so I can see what is going on |
| 14:04.42 | Reelax | ok |
| 14:04.49 | somiaj | Reelax: it actually couuld be that your mirror hasn't fully sycned to have 7.5 on it yet, which is my guess, I just wanted to double check |
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| 14:08.04 | Reelax | somi |
| 14:08.19 | Reelax | somiaj: http://i.imgur.com/Cdpnj4i.png / http://i.imgur.com/vW0pzvp.png |
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| 14:09.29 | Reelax | i used my PC's sources-list on laptop after installation |
| 14:09.40 | somiaj | Reelax: okay your mirror ftp.tr.debian.org seems not have updated to 7.5 yet. You could rerun apt-get update and see if when you look at apt-cache policy libssl-dev there is only one source for it |
| 14:09.57 | somiaj | Reelax: but your system is fine, you have all the secuirty fixes from security.debian.org |
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| 14:10.53 | somiaj | Reelax: so it coudl be the mirror or it coudl be you just haven't ran 'apt-get update' recent enough |
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| 14:12.03 | Reelax | hmm it offers me 32MB+ files for upgrade now. |
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| 14:13.04 | Reelax | it's a virtualbox install, been working for about 1 hr, i'm sure i did update and upgrade .... anyway it's downloading files now, thanks |
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| 14:15.32 | sparky4 | fdsaflkj sd;lkfjsafjds;lj ;ldsakf jalks;df jldsk jflkdsaorewjjj fds somiaj IT WORKED OMG WTF BBQ |
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| 14:16.29 | Reelax | slaps sparky4 |
| 14:16.41 | sparky4 | OWW |
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| 14:21.09 | Reelax | somiaj: it still says installed : (none) for apt-cache policy libssl-dev |
| 14:21.13 | somiaj | !tell sparky4 about hold |
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| 14:21.55 | somiaj | sparky4: just in case you want to hold that older kernel back, or remove the kernel meta package...note this means no seucirty/updates from your kernel until you figure out what to do with the newer kernels. Maybe follow the BTS and see if this bug is being mentioned. |
| 14:22.08 | somiaj | Reelax: yea that package is just not installed |
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| 14:22.33 | somiaj | Reelax: Install the package if you want, you shoudln't need the -dev libary unless you are compliaing aginst it |
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| 14:22.41 | somiaj | Reelax: apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0 |
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| 14:22.54 | sparky4 | somiaj: i am using 3.13 |
| 14:23.11 | somiaj | sparky4: oh so what ended up being the fix? |
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| 14:23.33 | sparky4 | yeah in sid |
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| 14:23.48 | sparky4 | somiaj: in the sid repository is the fix |
| 14:24.14 | sparky4 | yay now i can do my school work and have fun playing sauerbraten! |
| 14:24.34 | somiaj | sparky4: I personally just run sid on my desktop. jessie has it's own bugs and at least sid gets fixed faster (though it will break more) |
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| 14:24.48 | Reelax | ok, i also got now : release v=7.5,o=Debian,a=stable,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=main |
| 14:24.49 | Reelax | i think im ok now. |
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| 14:25.23 | somiaj | sparky4: anyways glad it will work, right now that jessie is not frozen, sid packages aren't that much different and you can install sid packages just fine in jessie (sometimes a fix is doing just that) |
| 14:25.49 | somiaj | sparky4: but once jessie freezes this no longer becomes the case, so if you plan to stabalize with jessie just make sure you don't have sid sources mixed in. |
| 14:26.05 | sparky4 | ok somiaj ^^ |
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| 14:48.36 | modyn | i have been upgraded libc and a bunch of other things, now everything that is not statically linked barely works. Could anybody help me fix this? I offer you payment by paypal or bitcoin /msg me |
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| 15:09.21 | Kiril | guys what was the package showing CIDR range >? |
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| 15:09.59 | somiaj | Kiril: apt-cache search cidr range -- maybe grepcidr is what you wanted? |
| 15:10.06 | somiaj | Kiril: you could also apt-cache search cidr |
| 15:10.44 | Spec | ipcalc? |
| 15:11.19 | Kiril | sipcalc - Advanced console-based ip subnet calculator |
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| 15:12.07 | Kiril | that was the package |
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| 15:22.12 | vol4ko2 | how can i install this in debian |
| 15:22.14 | vol4ko2 | https://github.com/dclardy64/ISPConfig-3-Debian-Installer/blob/master/extras/roundcube.install.sh |
| 15:22.25 | vol4ko2 | i run sh roundcube.install.sh and nothing happens |
| 15:22.35 | vol4ko2 | also bash roundcube.install.sh also nothing happens |
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| 15:25.52 | sandman13 | what are the color codes of Debian? |
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| 15:26.10 | SynrG | that's a bit vague |
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| 15:27.36 | somiaj | vol4ko2: that script seems to do somethings to modify your machine that require root. I dont' know if you want to trust it or not, but you can read though it to see what it does |
| 15:27.56 | vol4ko2 | yes i know |
| 15:28.16 | sandman13 | I have looked the wiki but it says only about the logos color not other ones |
| 15:28.29 | somiaj | sandman13: do you mean vt100 or terminal color codes? |
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| 15:29.14 | sandman13 | somiaj: no, those color codes that are required to create a color scheme in KDE |
| 15:29.33 | sandman13 | terminal colors won't work perhaps |
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| 15:31.47 | somiaj | sandman13: then you just answered your question, look up the info for KDE |
| 15:32.37 | sandman13 | somiaj: I couldn't find one (actually found one but that has broken link) so I am asking here |
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| 15:33.50 | somiaj | sandman13: kde has a channel on freenode I would imangine. Again if you don't egt an answer here, i just don't use kde so i wouldnt' know |
| 15:34.06 | sandman13 | okay |
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| 15:34.22 | sandman13 | I think I might find answer there |
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| 15:51.42 | domedagen | Hi! |
| 15:52.21 | domedagen | I'm having trouble booting from my USB |
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| 15:53.02 | petn-randall | Hi domedagen, I assume it's a Debian stable image? How did you create it? |
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| 15:53.14 | domedagen | I have installed the LiveCD on it |
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| 15:53.26 | domedagen | then burned it using bb |
| 15:53.34 | domedagen | sorry dd |
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| 15:55.09 | petn-randall | domedagen: I see. What is the error you get while booting it? |
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| 15:55.22 | domedagen | petn-randall: Is there a way to check if there's anything wrong with the burned image without using the computer |
| 15:56.10 | domedagen | petn-randall: No errors it just skipps to boot from HDD |
| 15:56.13 | kostiak | Having a problem with proftpd, changed the DefaultRoot but when I connect I still end up on the user's home directory |
| 15:56.21 | kostiak | any ideas what I'm doing wrong? |
| 15:56.26 | Megaf | domedagen: umount /dev/sdX* |
| 15:56.39 | shomon | hi, I have a wired connection but it's not picking up. I tried "ifconfig eth0 down / up" but it comes back up the same as before |
| 15:56.40 | Megaf | dd if=/pathto/debian.iso of=/dev/sdX |
| 15:56.49 | Megaf | domedagen: sync |
| 15:56.51 | shomon | how do I investigate that more? |
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| 15:57.03 | Megaf | that's how you transfer an iso to an usb flash drive |
| 15:57.17 | Megaf | replace X according to your flash drive |
| 15:57.38 | SynrG | heh, bb. that takes me back :) (aalib demo :) |
| 15:57.58 | Megaf | You can too actually install Debian on your flash drive, you will only be careful when installing the GRUB |
| 15:58.04 | petn-randall | SynrG: Good ol' times, hehe ;) |
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| 15:58.18 | kostiak | anyone? |
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| 15:58.25 | SynrG | ,v bb |
| 15:58.26 | judd | Package: bb on i386 -- squeeze: 1.3rc1-8; wheezy: 1.3rc1-8.1; jessie: 1.3rc1-8.1+b1; sid: 1.3rc1-8.1+b1 |
| 15:58.29 | SynrG | yay. still in the archives :) |
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| 15:58.56 | mtn | domedagen: many newer computers have a boot menu to boot usbs, dvds, etc. on mine I have to hit F12 when booting |
| 15:59.19 | domedagen | Megaf: That's what I thought I did, maybe I'll try to reboot again. This is how the result look: http://pastebin.com/VgPnY3NX |
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| 16:00.01 | domedagen | mtn: I press delete and then change to boot order |
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| 16:00.29 | S4nD3r | Please, How do I remove modules in wheezy? |
| 16:00.32 | mtn | domedagen: has your computer booted off of usb before? do you have secure boot enabled in bios? |
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| 16:01.11 | domedagen | mtn: No, and it doesn't say USB. It says removable device, I dont know about secure boot |
| 16:01.12 | S4nD3r | locate nvidia | grep ko I used aptitude remove nvidia* but there are some ko files in /lib/modules |
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| 16:02.14 | wols | S4nD3r: dpkg -l |grep nvidia |grep ii |
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| 16:03.55 | slawuta | Hi, I have a problem with Debian installation stopping at "preparing files to install" |
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| 16:04.52 | slawuta | The progress bar advances to about 95%, 'running post-installation triggers for libc6-bin', more less |
| 16:04.53 | Megaf | slawuta: make sure your partition / is big enough (4+GB) and you media is fine |
| 16:05.06 | Megaf | you could try a netinstall |
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| 16:05.23 | slawuta | Megaf: It is netinstall from USB on a Dell machine with onboard HDD. |
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| 16:06.04 | domedagen | I'll try a reboot brb |
| 16:06.08 | slawuta | i386 architecture, HDD has been tested using firmware, I also checked USB integrity. |
| 16:06.37 | S4nD3r | Great wols |
| 16:06.42 | S4nD3r | I got it! |
| 16:06.46 | slawuta | Megaf: I used installation guide so it assigned partition sizes itself. I chose 'separate /home' option. |
| 16:06.46 | S4nD3r | Thanks |
| 16:07.17 | slawuta | What else can I do to advance this and/or display extra messages during installation ? |
| 16:07.22 | S4nD3r | How to know which video card driver is used by debian? |
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| 16:08.21 | slawuta | The machine is Dell Optiplex Gx280. |
| 16:08.27 | modyn | how do i check my RAM? |
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| 16:09.39 | petn-randall | modyn: You can use memtest86+ for that, it will then show up as an option in your boot loader. |
| 16:09.46 | petn-randall | ,v memtest86+ |
| 16:09.47 | judd | Package: memtest86+ on i386 -- squeeze: 4.10-1.1; squeeze-backports: 4.20-1~bpo60+1; jessie: 4.20-1.1; sid: 4.20-1.1; wheezy: 4.20-1.1 |
| 16:10.32 | petn-randall | modyn: Note that you need to let it run for several hours to detect some less obvious RAM problems, so plan ahead when you can live with the downtime. |
| 16:10.38 | slawuta | Maybe because I'm trying to install Testing ? |
| 16:10.50 | petn-randall | !testing installer |
| 16:10.51 | dpkg | Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 16:10.55 | petn-randall | slawuta: ^^^ |
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| 16:12.52 | mingtsay | guys, is there any way to understand iptables in a short time ? |
| 16:14.10 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 16:15.25 | slawuta | petn-randall: I just downloaded debian....netinst...iso, then cp *.iso /dev/sdb, then sync . Is that not okay ? |
| 16:15.54 | nice_user | how i can change disk block size in ext4 with no data lose, from 4k to 8k... |
| 16:16.06 | slawuta | Okay, I |
| 16:16.21 | slawuta | I'll try to install Stable and I may later upgrade to TEsting. |
| 16:16.31 | petn-randall | !tell mingtsay about netfilter docs |
| 16:16.31 | somiaj | slawuta: assuming /dev/sdb is your usb drive and you realize all data on usb drive will be lost. Yes |
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| 16:16.47 | petn-randall | mingtsay: The bot should have sent you a few useful links. |
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| 16:17.12 | petn-randall | slawuta: Did you download the stable or testing netinst? |
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| 16:17.15 | mingtsay | petn-randall++ thanks |
| 16:17.27 | petn-randall | mingtsay: You're welcome! Have a nice day. |
| 16:18.01 | somiaj | slawuta: oh also that you only have one iso in the directroy too. (: |
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| 16:19.37 | nice_user | hi, how i can change disk block size in ext4 with no data lose, from 4k to 8k... |
| 16:19.44 | slawuta | petn-randall: I downloaded testing netinst. |
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| 16:20.10 | petn-randall | nice_user: You can't do that inplace. You need to backup, create a new ext4 filesystem, and restore the data. |
| 16:20.14 | slawuta | somiaj: Actually I used tab autocompletion. I used *.blah notation to make it fit in a single IRC line. |
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| 16:20.46 | nice_user | petn-randall, ok, i'll do! :) and now how to make the partition 8k? :) |
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| 16:21.15 | petn-randall | slawuta: As the factoid said, it's used to test the installer, that it installs testing is just a side effect. Use the stable installer, do a minimal install and then upgrade to testing. |
| 16:21.26 | petn-randall | nice_user: You have a disk with 8k sector size? |
| 16:21.42 | tormen | Hi. How can I get the info of "apt-cache policy wine" for the wine source package ? |
| 16:21.44 | somiaj | slawuta: the testing installer may not work, provided that you realize that you are just fine. |
| 16:22.09 | tormen | ... more precisely I would like to see from which repo apt-get source wine would install what version of wine |
| 16:22.14 | somiaj | tormen: I see an XY problem, what is it you are really trying to do? Do you want a new version of wine |
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| 16:22.39 | somiaj | tormen: you want showsrc |
| 16:22.44 | tormen | somiaj: ok |
| 16:22.44 | nice_user | petn-randall, how do i know that? |
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| 16:24.15 | petn-randall | nice_user: 'smartctl -i /dev/<yourdevice>'. I'm asking because I haven't heard of 8k disks yet. |
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| 16:24.52 | tormen | somiaj: thanks. Yes I would like to upgrade my wine (debian stable from source) and apt-get build-dep wine failes because of libwine-gphoto2 |
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| 16:25.51 | nice_user | petn-randall, Sector Size: 512 bytes ..... this? :/ |
| 16:26.00 | somiaj | tormen: what version of debian do you run, is it wheezy amd64 by chance? |
| 16:26.03 | petn-randall | nice_user: Yes. |
| 16:26.19 | tormen | apt-get build-dep wine --> E: Build-Depends dependency for wine cannot be satisfied because the package libgphoto2-dev cannot be found ... |
| 16:26.23 | nice_user | petn-randall, so i must change to 512b? |
| 16:26.25 | tormen | somiaj: yes amd64 |
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| 16:26.40 | somiaj | tormen: and wheezy? |
| 16:26.46 | petn-randall | nice_user: Change what? What are you trying to do? |
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| 16:26.56 | somiaj | tormen: actually wheezy shouldn't matter, but anyways |
| 16:27.00 | tormen | somiaj: I am trying http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit, yes wheezy |
| 16:27.08 | nice_user | petn-randall, the best IO performance |
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| 16:27.44 | somiaj | tormen: here is my set of instructions on how to build a i386 wine package in a chroot on wheezy systems. This works with either the 1.6 tree or the 1.7 tree, just adjust the sourcecode you wget (or use) |
| 16:27.48 | somiaj | tormen: http://paste.debian.net/95885/ |
| 16:28.02 | sparky4 | yeap it works ^^ |
| 16:28.04 | Kiril | guys |
| 16:28.05 | petn-randall | nice_user: If you created the filesystem on that disk, mkfs already picks the optimal parameters. What I/O problems are you observing? |
| 16:28.18 | Kiril | is this availbale on debian under some package http://nodejs.org/ |
| 16:28.35 | tormen | somiaj: Hey, great thanks ! |
| 16:28.47 | petn-randall | Kiril: Did you use your package manager to search for it? |
| 16:29.00 | tormen | somiaj: ... out of curiosity : What is the interest to build this in a chroot ? |
| 16:29.03 | nice_user | petn-randall, nothing... just i like more "free" performance :) |
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| 16:29.22 | petn-randall | nice_user: Oh, I see. Nothing to optimize then :). |
| 16:29.23 | somiaj | tormen: you most likely want the i386 version of wine and not the amd64 version (runing 32bit binaries from windows) |
| 16:29.27 | Kiril | petn-randall of course |
| 16:29.39 | tormen | somiaj: ah yes :) |
| 16:29.43 | petn-randall | Kiril: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nodejs |
| 16:29.48 | tormen | cool. thanks again ! |
| 16:29.49 | nice_user | petn-randall, :) ok |
| 16:29.56 | somiaj | tormen: even though you ahve multiarch for libs, you don't have multiarch nicely for devel libaries, so makd a 32bit chroot that is a clean envorment to build the package |
| 16:30.16 | tormen | ok, gotcha :) |
| 16:30.17 | somiaj | tormen: i.e. this way you have a clean build enviroment that is completely 32bit and you build a nice binary |
| 16:30.26 | tormen | yep |
| 16:30.28 | Kiril | petn-randall wheezy-backports |
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| 16:30.37 | Kiril | in current packages not exist |
| 16:31.07 | slawuta | Round 2... Fight@! |
| 16:31.52 | petn-randall | !tell Kiril about wheezy backports |
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| 16:33.54 | os_ | hi |
| 16:34.31 | os_ | I wonder why xemacs isn't shipped with wheezy... |
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| 16:35.52 | os_ | Iam sorry,i mean why it isn't in official repository in this release.. |
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| 16:37.26 | somiaj | os_: I'm looking, the only xemacs pakages I see at all are xemacs21 and the default emacs is emacs23 so thinking the newer versions incldue this differetnly |
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| 16:38.11 | somiaj | os_: the emacs23 contains a version of emacs with the gtk+ interface, wonder if they just don't support/compile the old version that uses some other widget set |
| 16:38.24 | os_ | Ah.. ok |
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| 16:38.43 | MrFrood | xemacs != emacs |
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| 16:39.41 | os_ | mmm, sorry but i didn't get the point yet |
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| 16:40.18 | MrFrood | os_: xemacs is not emacs but a fork of emacs so the version numbers will differ |
| 16:40.37 | os_ | yes, i know, it was packaged in squeeze |
| 16:40.40 | shomon | hi, if I connect via eth0 to a router, I can only get to the internal network.. I get an internal IP. but if I connect via wifi, I get through to the internet |
| 16:40.42 | shomon | how do I diagnose that? |
| 16:41.19 | os_ | why does it disappear in wheezy .. that is the question? |
| 16:41.33 | petn-randall | shomon: Is it the same router? |
| 16:41.40 | shomon | yes |
| 16:42.21 | petn-randall | shomon: The output of 'ifconfig', 'route -n' and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' would be useful to debug, in both cases. Paste the output to http://paste.debian.net. |
| 16:43.00 | shomon | okay |
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| 16:43.07 | os_ | its english is poor, and doesn't know whether people here understand its idea |
| 16:43.19 | MrFrood | os_: no idea why it did not make the cut for wheezy, perhaps you should check the bug reports |
| 16:43.43 | os_ | OK, thanks |
| 16:43.48 | somiaj | os_: xemacs was the gui front end for emacs version 21, this is old, in wheezy it was upgraded to version emacs23 (so a newer version) |
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| 16:44.16 | somiaj | os_: as to why they stoped making this package with the newer version, it might be because they include a gtk+ version of emacs in the offical emacs23 package and not need an additional package for xemacs |
| 16:44.21 | vol4ko2 | why this script doesn't work https://github.com/dclardy64/ISPConfig-3-Debian-Installer/blob/master/extras/roundcube.install.sh |
| 16:44.22 | vol4ko2 | nothing happens when i try to execute it |
| 16:44.35 | MrFrood | somiaj: given that it is still in jessie and sid I suspect something else is going on |
| 16:44.40 | os_ | somiaj: no no, i mean xemacs (the fork of emacs) |
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| 16:45.38 | MrFrood | hence my suggestion of checking the bug reports |
| 16:45.40 | os_ | no a a X-based emacs |
| 16:45.58 | os_ | somiaj: thanks anyway, i have got the answer |
| 16:46.15 | DrDamnit | I just copied the debian 7.4 install image to USB for USB install. Want to add iwlwifi drivers to it, what's the best practice? |
| 16:46.23 | shomon | petn-randall, here it is https://hastebin.com/idovopovax.sm |
| 16:46.25 | MrFrood | os_: is there a reason you need xemacs instaed of emacs? |
| 16:46.28 | somiaj | MrFrood: the version 21 is still sitting there, seems to be the same version in squeeze too |
| 16:46.59 | os_ | MrFrood: yes, but i won't tell you (smile) |
| 16:47.00 | MrFrood | somiaj: not in wheezy |
| 16:47.10 | petn-randall | shomon: Doesn't work without javascript. :( |
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| 16:47.33 | os_ | it is a secret ... (VERY BIG SMILE) |
| 16:47.35 | MrFrood | os_: then you may need to compile from source or backport |
| 16:47.53 | petn-randall | shomon: Take http://paste.debian.net please, you can also let the paste expire if that's your concern. |
| 16:47.56 | os_ | MrFrood: thanks again |
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| 16:48.03 | somiaj | MrFrood: so in jessie/sid emacs21 is still around, in wheezy they removed it, maybe a bug, maybe because it is a, but emacs21 is only in the m68k port in sid |
| 16:48.15 | shomon | ok cool |
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| 16:49.09 | somiaj | http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xemacs21/news/20090714T163916Z.html |
| 16:49.25 | somiaj | ahh there it is, xemacs uses gtk 1.2 which was removed from wheezy and I'm surprised it is still around |
| 16:49.46 | somiaj | again as I said there is a gtk+ 2 front end to emacs in the emacs23 package on wheezy |
| 16:49.51 | MrFrood | shomon: emacs and xemacs numbers are not the same thing, the fork occurred in the early 90's if memory serves me right |
| 16:50.26 | shomon | ? |
| 16:50.40 | shomon | sorry mate, I'm strictly vim only |
| 16:50.43 | MrFrood | shomon: sorry somiaj ^^^ |
| 16:51.00 | shomon | :) |
| 16:51.16 | MrFrood | shomon: thoughg +1 on the vi |
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| 16:52.21 | somiaj | MrFrood: yea seems the real reason though was the old xemacs version depended on gtk 1.2 which is gone. And the newer gtk front end is included in the emacs23 package |
| 16:52.45 | MrFrood | somiaj: yup |
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| 16:54.05 | Chewy64 | Hi all. Just did an install of Debian 7.4, wondering if there is an easy way of getting a sidebar launcher. |
| 16:54.21 | shomon | peten-randall: http://paste.debian.net/95892/ |
| 16:54.37 | SynrG | Chewy64: which desktop? gnome classic? |
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| 16:55.01 | SynrG | Chewy64: gnome-shell, which is the default, has a sidebar launcher ... |
| 16:55.19 | modyn | hi |
| 16:55.23 | modyn | how can i show all users? |
| 16:55.28 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Opps, yeah sorry. Gnome. No sidebar here though..... |
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| 16:55.40 | Chewy64 | A bit confused at that as weill. |
| 16:55.45 | SynrG | Chewy64: so it fell back to classic? do you have a graphics chipset capable of supporting gnome-shell? |
| 16:55.52 | modyn | how can i show all users for /sbin/nologin? |
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| 16:56.22 | SynrG | Chewy64: anything reasonably modern should be capable (i.e. not absolutely ancient) |
| 16:56.27 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Yes, I have Ubuntu on another HDD and it works fine with the gnome-shell. |
| 16:56.42 | SynrG | Chewy64: so, which chipset? lspci -nn |grep -i vga |
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| 16:57.51 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I'm rocking 2x7950 and 2x290X. |
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| 16:58.05 | SynrG | Chewy64: well, that isn't the info i asked for ... |
| 16:58.41 | SynrG | Chewy64: i'm going to assume those are radeons and you're just missing firmware |
| 16:59.00 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I'd copy paste, but IRC'ing on different box. Monitor is tied to ATI Tahiti PRO Radeon HD 7950 |
| 16:59.01 | ni876485 | having trouble with a crunchbang install. installation goes perfect but once I boot into the OS, it just displays a static picture of a bunch of colors in a vertical stripe pattern. the hardware is AMD x4 955 CPU, amd 6790 gpu, Samsung ssd. win 8 on separate partition. this same hardware recently ran wheezy just fine. any ideas? |
| 16:59.09 | SynrG | !radeon firmware |
| 16:59.09 | dpkg | Binary-only firmware was removed from the radeon <DRM> driver at linux-2.6 2.6.29-1 (Debian bug #494009) and is packaged separately in firmware-linux-nonfree. Without this package installed, poor 2D/3D performance in the <radeon> xorg driver is commonly experienced. To acquire, ask me about <non-free sources>. This is not required for use of the <fglrx> driver. |
| 16:59.47 | SynrG | !tell Chewy64 about non-free sources |
| 17:00.13 | SynrG | Chewy64: just enable non-free sources (dpkg bot messaged you how) and install firmware-linux-nonfree, then reboot. |
| 17:00.27 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Will do. |
| 17:00.58 | Chewy64 | Oh, well, I've done what that bot messaged me already. |
| 17:01.17 | shomon | petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/95892/ sorry not sure if that got sent first time round |
| 17:01.37 | SynrG | Chewy64: good, then apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree, reboot, and next login to gnome should be gnome-shell. |
| 17:01.37 | _val_ | modyn: maybe grep "/sbin/nologin" /etc/passwd |
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| 17:04.06 | _val_ | modyn: a better one would be: awk -F: '/nologin/{print $1}' /etc/passwd |
| 17:04.12 | Chewy64 | The boot graphics already look better..... |
| 17:04.31 | SynrG | humm. 7950 is southern islands. *may* need kernel backport |
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| 17:05.12 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Booted to a blank screen now. Just chillin there. |
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| 17:06.23 | ni876485 | anyone else ever have this issue? |
| 17:06.25 | petn-randall | shomon: Wait, that's when you're connected via wifi _and_ cable. And that works? |
| 17:06.38 | petn-randall | ni876485: crunchbang is not supported here. |
| 17:07.24 | shomon | yes I was connected on both when I did ifconfig |
| 17:07.32 | ni876485 | ok thanks |
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| 17:08.08 | shomon | i can reach it locally from another computer on the network |
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| 17:09.48 | SynrG | ,pciid [7950:679a] |
| 17:09.49 | judd | [7950:679a] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=7950:679a |
| 17:09.54 | tharkun | How can I synck my android phone with my debian machine? |
| 17:09.59 | SynrG | ,pciid [7950:679a] --release jessie |
| 17:10.01 | judd | [7950:679a] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=7950:679a |
| 17:10.15 | SynrG | hmm, i did something wrong there. oh yeah, vendor id |
| 17:10.21 | tharkun | Actually I want to add some CA root certificate so the phone can trust my servers. |
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| 17:10.37 | SynrG | Chewy64: see, that's why i need the pciid |
| 17:11.23 | Chewy64 | SynrG, [1002:679a] |
| 17:11.35 | SynrG | ,pciid [1002:679a] |
| 17:11.36 | judd | [1002:679a] is 'Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeon' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:679a and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 17:11.38 | Chewy64 | and [1002:67b0] |
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| 17:12.03 | Chewy64 | ,pciid [1002:67b0] |
| 17:12.04 | judd | [1002:67b0] is 'Hawaii XT [Radeon R9 290X]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:67b0 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 17:12.09 | SynrG | ,pciid [1002:67b0] |
| 17:12.11 | judd | [1002:67b0] is 'Hawaii XT [Radeon R9 290X]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:67b0 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 17:12.17 | SynrG | oops. twice :) |
| 17:12.53 | SynrG | ,pciid [1002:679a] --release testing |
| 17:12.54 | judd | [1002:679a] is 'Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeon' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:679a and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 17:13.08 | SynrG | ,pciid [1002:67b0] --release testing |
| 17:13.09 | judd | [1002:67b0] is 'Hawaii XT [Radeon R9 290X]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeon' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:67b0 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 17:13.12 | Posterdati | hi |
| 17:13.20 | SynrG | Chewy64: so yeah, i think you need a backport kernel |
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| 17:13.26 | SynrG | !tell Chewy64 about backport sources |
| 17:13.31 | Posterdati | is anyone using lq083aa wifi mouse on debian/linux? Thanks |
| 17:13.31 | SynrG | !tell Chewy64 about bpo kernel |
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| 17:14.23 | SynrG | oops ... |
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| 17:14.29 | SynrG | !tell Chewy64 about wheezy-backports |
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| 17:14.52 | modyn | iptables-restore v1.4.14: Can't set policy `ACCEPT' on `INPUT' line 4: Bad built-in chain name |
| 17:14.52 | modyn | how do i fix this error? |
| 17:14.56 | modyn | IP tables are not likeing the transfer |
| 17:15.05 | SynrG | Chewy64: there are two ways to go, here, the updated kernel (which may or may not work with the older wheezy free radeon driver ...) |
| 17:15.14 | SynrG | Chewy64: and the proprietary driver fglrx-driver |
| 17:15.23 | SynrG | Chewy64: the latter has a backport too |
| 17:16.02 | SynrG | modyn: which debian release? |
| 17:16.04 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I'm installing the fglrx right now. I have *some* experience with it. And IIRC it's needed to hardware monitor (temps, etc) which I'll need. (This is a render box) |
| 17:16.24 | petn-randall | modyn: Where do you get this error? |
| 17:16.27 | SynrG | Chewy64: ok. i'm just thinking without the kernel *and* fglrx from backports you may not get very far. |
| 17:16.45 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Well, we're about to find out. Lol. |
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| 17:17.25 | _val_ | modyn: #netfilter |
| 17:17.42 | modyn | petn-randall: after backup my iptables. |
| 17:17.46 | Azrael_- | how can i find out which package provided /sbin/tw_cli ? |
| 17:17.50 | modyn | petn-randall: and import it back to my new server |
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| 17:18.52 | petn-randall | Azrael_-: It's only provided by the proprietary 3ware package. |
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| 17:19.13 | petn-randall | Azrael_-: It's not packaged in Debian, but IIRC offered for download by 3ware. |
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| 17:19.33 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Well the prop driver got the sidebar. Lets see how the rest goes. |
| 17:19.35 | petn-randall | modyn: What are you exactly running, and how does the content look like? |
| 17:19.45 | Azrael_- | petn-randall: ok, i'm just surprised as it is installed on my server (provided template from hoster) and couldn't find a package to uninstall it |
| 17:20.05 | petn-randall | Azrael_-: 'dlocate /sbin/tw_cli' will tell you if it's a package. |
| 17:20.24 | Azrael_- | petn-randall: already tried it with apt-file and had no luck |
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| 17:22.06 | SynrG | Chewy64: yay :) |
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| 17:22.19 | Azrael_- | also dlocate couldn't find anything |
| 17:22.29 | petn-randall | Azrael_-: apt-file will only search for files that are available by the repos, not any locally installed packages. |
| 17:22.48 | petn-randall | Azrael_-: If dlocate didn't find anything, then it's indeed copied there by hand. |
| 17:22.50 | mingtsay | so, now i have the problem to get IPv6 from my ISP using PPPoE ... |
| 17:22.56 | Chewy64 | SynrG, It took a lot longer to get there in Ubuntu, so with any luck this will be a lot easier. Just rebooting after an aticonfig update, hoping for temp readings. |
| 17:23.00 | Azrael_- | great :/ thanks |
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| 17:24.07 | SynrG | modyn: from what system to what system? both wheezy? |
| 17:24.45 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Temp readings are a go. But it's on Classic again, and the desktop is tiles. Odd. |
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| 17:25.35 | SynrG | modyn: uname -a on the 'new server', please |
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| 17:26.28 | SynrG | Chewy64: gah. i thought you said you had a sidebar ... what changed? |
| 17:26.53 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I updated the aticonfig for all the cards and rebooted. |
| 17:26.57 | SynrG | oh |
| 17:27.06 | SynrG | so, maybe you need bus id in there or something |
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| 17:27.13 | SynrG | there are a few possible gotchas |
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| 17:28.15 | barhom | This might actually be an advanced question, googling doesn't seem to help me in this case. I need a Debian box to be the mass storage device (a usb hard drive) and connect it to peripherals that will take the mass storage device and mount it. Anyone have any idea where to start looking? |
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| 17:29.45 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Care to elaborate on that? I'm not great with stuff. |
| 17:30.02 | SynrG | sure. digging up a ref |
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| 17:30.55 | SynrG | Chewy64: nope. mixing this up with bumblebee. dunno |
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| 17:31.06 | SynrG | (not relevant for your hardware :) |
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| 17:31.13 | petn-randall | barhom: You have a device that can act as a USB slave and which is supported by Debian? |
| 17:31.32 | SynrG | Chewy64: how about at paste.debian.net showing the output of Xorg.0.log? and ... i'm going out for that walk now ... |
| 17:31.36 | SynrG | hope someone else can take over |
| 17:31.37 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I have spent the last month pissing around with distros/drivers and have seen a lot of crazy shit, but not seen this happen. So it could be an odd-one. |
| 17:31.53 | barhom | petn-randall: Im willing to purchase whatever I need, if I need a special PCI-E USB ports thats fine |
| 17:32.20 | SynrG | Chewy64: it worked before your aticonfig though, huh? might start by also showing the resulting /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a paste. |
| 17:32.31 | barhom | petn-randall: Question is if there's software on debian that can take a mount point like /mnt/usb-share and serve it up as a USB mass storage to other devices |
| 17:32.33 | SynrG | hopefully someone here can spot the issue |
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| 17:32.42 | macrobat | I have a non-debian, non-free ethernet controller driver as a kernel module. How do I make sure it will be automatically loaded (and put in the initramfs) with newer kernels? |
| 17:32.48 | SynrG | Chewy64: can you get it working first single-head, then proceed from there to make the rest work? |
| 17:32.54 | Mysterytrain | debian-installer wants me to "install missing firmware" (wifi card." I think I found the right package. will the installer require me to expand the archive or can it handle tar.gz files |
| 17:32.59 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Will do. Attempting to figure out how I can find it without access/being able to see really. Lol. |
| 17:33.07 | SynrG | heh |
| 17:33.20 | SynrG | well, good luck. maybe will check in later |
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| 17:33.31 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Thanks for the help! |
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| 17:34.43 | shomon | petn-randall, yes.. I'm on both... but not connected on both I guess.. on the eth0 one I only have an internal IP |
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| 17:35.29 | mtn | Mysterytrain: I always use an installer that includes the firmware, makes it much easier |
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| 17:35.46 | Mysterytrain | mtn: is there a way to tell if a given installer cd has it? |
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| 17:36.07 | petn-randall | barhom: I don't know about that, but I remember a talk about a general-purpose PC acting as a USB slave. Lemme check - |
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| 17:36.25 | phillyj | hi, i wanted to install debian in my partitioned drive (already Win7 and Mint) containing Mint (overwrite it) but I am confused at how to install into the Mint partition without messing up the partition settings |
| 17:36.33 | mtn | Mysterytrain: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 17:36.49 | petn-randall | shomon: How does you problem show then? You should be able to access the internet anyway if connected to both. |
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| 17:37.04 | shomon | yeah I wanted faster connection for a call over voip |
| 17:37.07 | Chewy64 | phillyj, During install you have an option to use selected partitions instead of the entire drive. Use that, and select the partitions you'd like to use. |
| 17:37.09 | shomon | so eth0 woudl have been better |
| 17:37.13 | shomon | but well |
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| 17:42.19 | phillyj | Chewy64: can i skip the partition stage because right after setting up user accts, it takes to to partitioning options |
| 17:42.22 | phillyj | ? |
| 17:42.58 | adh0c | Hey, does anyone know what it means when aptitude search returns 'ihA' next to the package name being searched for? |
| 17:43.08 | petn-randall | phillyj: You can skip it, you still have to tell the installer what to use for installation. |
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| 17:43.14 | petn-randall | *can't! |
| 17:43.15 | Chewy64 | phillyj, Well, you can't really skip it, you'll have to tell it where to install at some point. IIRC it does the partitioning first, then setup accounts. |
| 17:43.17 | adh0c | Reading the man pages suggests the 'i' means its installed, and the 'A' means it was installed automatically. |
| 17:43.23 | adh0c | Not sure what the 'h' in the center means though. |
| 17:43.27 | adh0c | And the man doesn't specify. |
| 17:43.29 | petn-randall | adh0c: 'hold' |
| 17:43.37 | adh0c | Aha, that would make sense. |
| 17:44.03 | adh0c | The package is firmware-linux-free, and it's been held between a dist-upgrade from squeeze to wheezy. |
| 17:44.12 | adh0c | Does that mean the firmware is not receiving the updates it should? |
| 17:45.40 | petn-randall | I guess so. However did it might have pinned it so that it doesn't get easily removed. |
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| 17:46.24 | adh0c | It's not listed in /etc/apt/preferences. |
| 17:47.46 | AciD`` | hi |
| 17:48.23 | abrotman | dpkg: tell adh0c about aptitude flags |
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| 17:49.00 | petn-randall | adh0c: Sorry, was being imprecise. Pinning and hold are different, but in some cases can have the same effect. You can put a package on hold with apt-mark or 'aptitude hold'. |
| 17:49.08 | AciD`` | I'm having some trouble getting my keyring to work with dpkg. I installed almost all the keyring package needed, but still get those error message : "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553" (cf. http://paste.kde.org/psvyinqym) |
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| 17:49.59 | Chewy64 | Is there no default terminal keyboard shortcut? CRTL+ALT+T doesn't do it. |
| 17:50.22 | adh0c | What would the reasons be for holding back firmware-linux-free? I can't find anything logged about it being a deliberate choice, so why would this automatically be put on hold and what are the risks of lifting the hold? |
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| 17:50.38 | vol4ko2 | deb http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 17:50.43 | vol4ko2 | how can i set this to nl mirror |
| 17:51.24 | adh0c | Chewy64: that macro might need to be set manually in your Xorg preferences. |
| 17:51.28 | vol4ko2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.30 | vol4ko2 | ? |
| 17:51.37 | petn-randall | adh0c: Only 'risk' would be that it gets updated. If nobody administrating that machine doesn't know a good reason, it's probably a good idea to upgrade it. |
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| 17:52.00 | petn-randall | vol4ko2: There are no mirrors, just use that one. |
| 17:52.16 | petn-randall | AciD``: What kind of key is that? |
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| 17:52.25 | Chewy64 | adh0c, Dang. I can't get there. I have a 2" high desktop window with none of the top bar, etc showing. :( |
| 17:52.26 | petn-randall | !tell AciD`` about bat |
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| 17:53.00 | adh0c | Chewy64: you should still be able to drop to another tty by using CTRL-ALT-F[1-6] |
| 17:53.37 | Chewy64 | Eh? |
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| 17:55.10 | adh0c | Another prompt. Usually X runs on tty7 by default. If you can't get to a prompt within the X session, you can switch to another tty, log in again, and mess about from there. |
| 17:55.17 | AciD`` | petn-randall > the apt-cache policy outputs : http://paste.kde.org/pxtty3mrk |
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| 17:55.53 | petn-randall | AciD``: What is the actual command that gives you this error? And what is the full output? |
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| 17:56.43 | Chewy64 | So, what would potentially cause the issue I am having? I have a ~2" high desktop, with the date/time repeated all the way across the very top of the monitor, As well as the user name repeated ~ 15 times. |
| 17:57.04 | AciD`` | petn-randall > the commands and the full output is on the first link I pasted (http://paste.kde.org/psvyinqym). Do you need anything else ? |
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| 17:59.44 | petn-randall | AciD``: Did you remove apt keys *after* installing those packages? |
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| 18:00.42 | petn-randall | AciD``: You can reinstall them all by doing 'apt-get --reinstall install <packages>', that might already fix the issue. Remember to run 'apt-get update', too. |
| 18:00.47 | AciD`` | petn-randall > what do you mean ? I installed the debian with the net installer, then found out the keyring was missing somehow from the installed packages, so I installed it |
| 18:01.02 | AciD`` | petn-randall > ok I'll try that, good call |
| 18:01.24 | adh0c | Chew64: Did you manually configure Xorg or did you automatically generate the config for it? |
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| 18:02.46 | petn-randall | AciD``: I'm just wondering since they're in the debian-keyring, and also installed by default. |
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| 18:03.12 | petn-randall | AciD``: I'm refering to the security.debian.org one, deb-multimedia.org is another issue. |
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| 18:03.49 | Chewy64 | adh0c, manually. Don't know enough to do it manually. |
| 18:03.49 | AciD`` | petn-randall > unfortunatly this hasn't changed anything (http://paste.kde.org/p6cch0a5s). This is *very* wierd |
| 18:04.16 | AciD`` | I don't understand why the official keys I abviouslt have aren't recognized.. |
| 18:04.23 | AciD`` | *obviously |
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| 18:04.50 | petn-randall | AciD``: Can you show me the output of 'apt-key list'? |
| 18:05.08 | petn-randall | AciD``: will be back in 30 mins |
| 18:05.22 | AciD`` | petn-randall > http://paste.kde.org/p1boviqth |
| 18:05.37 | Chewy64 | adh0c, The login screen shows fine, once you login, shit hits the fan. |
| 18:05.43 | AciD`` | petn-randall > ok, I'll be back in approximativelly the same amount of time ;) |
| 18:05.48 | AciD`` | bbl |
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| 18:06.38 | adh0c | Chewy64: what DE are you using? |
| 18:06.55 | Chewy64 | DE? |
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| 18:07.11 | Chewy64 | Oh. |
| 18:07.12 | Chewy64 | Gnome. |
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| 18:08.43 | Chewy64 | Both Gnome and Gnome Classic do the same thing. |
| 18:10.21 | Chewy64 | adh0c, I can edit the Xorg.conf, but not entirely sure what I am looking for. |
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| 18:11.24 | adh0c | Chewy64: Usually it's best to not edit Xorg.conf - it's a bit archaic, and unless you have explicit reason to auto-generating it is the safest bet. |
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| 18:12.50 | somiaj | actually you shouldn't need an xorg.conf at all, and should let xorg automatically detect things |
| 18:13.07 | Chewy64 | adh0c, Fair enough. I have no idea what the problem is, so I have no idea where to start here. I just get no desktop now, with the top bar reapeated sideway a whole shitload of time, until the top bar just have "USER" over and voer again across the whole width, completel black screen otherwise. When you log in, it's like it shrinks the desktop to oblivion. |
| 18:13.08 | somiaj | you only need one in the case it doesn't detect what you want, and you only need to add the small part of the config that tells it that piece |
| 18:13.12 | SynrG | well, he's on fglrx, so ... |
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| 18:13.17 | SynrG | and multihead as well |
| 18:13.33 | adh0c | Ah, that sounds like a video driver problem then. |
| 18:13.34 | SynrG | i think fglrx has its own idea of how to manage multihead that's not quite standard. |
| 18:13.35 | somiaj | yea in that case you only want a few lines and xrandr, the auto generated ones could not always be the best. |
| 18:14.10 | phillyj | Chewy64: hi again, i found the partition I want to use to install deb in, but it is already in ext4 format. What do I to select that as the install partition? |
| 18:14.22 | SynrG | multihead *and* multi-card |
| 18:14.23 | mingtsay | is there anyone using Debian as a route with IPv4 and IPv6 on PPPoE? |
| 18:14.30 | SynrG | so this is a bit complex for autodetection |
| 18:14.48 | Chewy64 | phillyj, During the install, it'll ask you which partitions to use, just select the corrisponding / and swap. |
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| 18:16.10 | Chewy64 | SynrG, The login screen displays fine. It's when you login that it goes to hell. It's hard to explain what I see, but it's like it's replicating the desktop sideway as very short intervals. |
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| 18:16.42 | Chewy64 | as very = at very* |
| 18:17.07 | phillyj | Chewy64: at the bottom of the partition manager, it says "finish partitioning and write changes to disk". After I do that, will it ask me to choose the partition? I don't want it to go write over my Win7 partition automatically |
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| 18:17.17 | Dagger | mingtsay: yes, there are people doing that |
| 18:17.58 | Chewy64 | phillyj, As long as you don't select the win7 partition, it shouldn;t do anything to it. Just make sure that BEFORE that step you didn;t select "Use entire disk" for the install option. |
| 18:18.01 | SynrG | Chewy64: that's using the driver from wheezy, not wheezy-backports? |
| 18:18.07 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Yes. |
| 18:18.12 | mingtsay | Dagger: my problem is I don't have route for IPv6 |
| 18:18.16 | SynrG | Chewy64: you might want to try a wheezy-backports kernel + fglrx-driver instead. |
| 18:18.26 | SynrG | Chewy64: ever used backports before? |
| 18:18.33 | SynrG | Chewy64: i think i already sent you the factoid |
| 18:18.44 | Chewy64 | SynrG, No idea how to go about that currently. I have no desktop to work with. And no, never used backport. |
| 18:19.04 | SynrG | !tell Chewy64 about wheezy-backports |
| 18:19.07 | SynrG | take care of that first |
| 18:19.14 | SynrG | it can all be done from text console |
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| 18:19.27 | SynrG | !tell bpo kernel |
| 18:19.31 | SynrG | bleh |
| 18:19.37 | SynrG | !tell Chewy64 about bpo kernel |
| 18:19.59 | phillyj | Chewy64: it told me there is no root system. Now I'm afraid to install deb; I better go back everything up first |
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| 18:20.18 | SynrG | Chewy64: and in addition to the backports kernel, also the backports fglrx-driver in similar fashion |
| 18:20.44 | SynrG | Chewy64: got all that? if you get stuck anywhere, give us a shout |
| 18:21.21 | Dagger | mingtsay: hm. looks like pppd won't create default routes for v6... if your ISP is sending RAs, you could try setting accept_ra=2 for the ppp interface |
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| 18:21.57 | Dagger | mingtsay: otherwise I think your only option might well be to set a route with `ip -6 route add default dev ppp0` |
| 18:22.30 | Chewy64 | SynrG, No, just reading now though. |
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| 18:25.07 | mingtsay | Dagger: here is my ifconfig and some configure files https://gist.github.com/mingtsay/2f6859e44b17464fab94 |
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| 18:26.32 | mingtsay | Dagger: also these two are enabled |
| 18:26.32 | mingtsay | net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra = 1 |
| 18:26.32 | mingtsay | net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 1 |
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| 18:28.31 | domedagen | Hi, I'm wondering about Skype for 64 bit Debian https://wiki.debian.org/skype#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 "The following instruction is not working anymore for skype..." |
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| 18:28.47 | domedagen | So if you have Debian 64-bit you cant have Skype? |
| 18:28.58 | Dagger | mingtsay: forwarding=1 forces accept_ra off, unless you set accept_ra to 2 instead of 1 |
| 18:29.18 | mtn | domedagen: yes, you can. I just followed the wiki and it installed fine for me |
| 18:29.20 | mingtsay | Dagger: I updated ping6 for pinging Google |
| 18:30.16 | domedagen | mtn: What version of Debian are you running (uname -a) |
| 18:30.39 | mtn | domedagen: it was some time ago I did the install, though. I am running wheezy |
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| 18:31.39 | GJPMiningco | Hey all i need some help |
| 18:31.49 | mtn | domedagen: I would try following those instructions and see if it installs ok |
| 18:32.01 | mingtsay | Dagger: I entered "~ # sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.ppp0.accept_ra=2" and wait for me to test if it is fine |
| 18:32.29 | GJPMiningco | I am trying to transfer the IPTABLES rules from the old machine to the new machine and i keep running into an error |
| 18:32.40 | Dagger | mingtsay: nice info dump by the way. missing routes, but okay (we know how they're broken), I don't think there's anything else I could possibly have asked for |
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| 18:34.19 | domedagen | mtn: It says here dependancy problems. Should I just apt-get install these packages? |
| 18:34.22 | mingtsay | Dagger: It will automaticly set to 1 if I do "service networking stop ; service networking start |
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| 18:34.26 | Dagger | mingtsay: and is that an actual Chinese(ish) ISP doing v6? with a routed /56? that's the first hint I've seen of anything other than CGNAT over there |
| 18:35.01 | mtn | domedagen: did you try what it said to do?: apt-get -f install |
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| 18:35.42 | mingtsay | Dagger: in Taiwan, all of our ISP provitdes IPv6 , I am using Hinet (Chuanghwa Telecom) |
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| 18:36.27 | rmmh | for a given debian distribution, is the gcc version used to build the packages ever changed? |
| 18:36.45 | mingtsay | Dagger: but Hinet requires clients go to their desk and apply for IPv6 |
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| 18:37.33 | mingtsay | Dagger: and then I just wait for the ISP call me , then I have IPv6 over PPPoE |
| 18:37.40 | Dagger | mingtsay: ah, not by default. that explains Google's stats reporting a pretty static 0.6% |
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| 18:38.32 | domedagen | mtn: Well, well, well. You win this time, but I'll be back with even more basic problems that should be obvious to solve |
| 18:38.37 | mingtsay | Dagger: yeah, but maybe it is because lots of clients have no idea to config IPv6 |
| 18:38.50 | mtn | domedagen: so it worked? great! |
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| 18:39.31 | mingtsay | Dagger: so my ISP only enable IPv6 which applied it |
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| 18:40.11 | Dagger | mingtsay: well, Comcast for example are doing a good job with on-by-default. v6 is just ignored by clients that aren't v6-capable |
| 18:40.17 | domedagen | mtn: But why would the wiki say that it would fail? |
| 18:40.32 | Dagger | I'd guess it's not enabled by default because they just can't be arsed with it :( |
| 18:41.28 | Dagger | mingtsay: http://strugglers.net/~andy/blog/2011/09/04/linux-ipv6-router-advertisements-and-forwarding/ gives some surrounding info; one of the comments suggests using a /etc/ppp/ipv6-up.d/* script to set the sysctl on connect |
| 18:41.28 | mingtsay | Dagger: also our school from elementary to university (ends with edu.tw) are all have IPv6 configured |
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| 18:42.21 | mtn | domedagen: good question, but I don't have an answer. somebody made a mistake or something changed. |
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| 18:43.20 | ruediger | I've created my first font debian package. Anybody want to check? https://github.com/ruediger/fonts-fira (I've already contacted pkg-fonts-devel@) |
| 18:44.25 | mingtsay | Dagger: maybe I can do this |
| 18:44.26 | mingtsay | ~ # sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.ppp0.forwarding=0 |
| 18:44.26 | mingtsay | ~ # sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.ppp0.accept_ra=1 |
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| 18:45.22 | Dagger | mingtsay: well, it's good to get some good news, now if only they'd enable it by default and give out routers that do it automatically, and then the entire rest of the world catch up :( |
| 18:45.25 | mingtsay | Dagger: and thenin a second i got the ipv6 .... |
| 18:45.38 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Can't resolve http.debian.net when updating apt sources. And then obviously, fails to find anything proper to install. |
| 18:45.42 | Dagger | mingtsay: hm, are you on Squeeze? or something pre-2.6.38 or so? |
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| 18:46.26 | SynrG | Chewy64: just substitute whatever your current, working mirror is for the other lines |
| 18:46.32 | mingtsay | Dagger: ~ # cat /etc/debian_version = 7.4 |
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| 18:46.50 | GJPMiningco | Hey i am transfer the IPtables from one system to a new system and when i run iptables save >/file and then move the file to the new system and type iptables restore < /file i am getting the error " iptables-restore v1.4.14: Can't set policy `ACCEPT' on `INPUT' line 4: Bad built-in chain name " |
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| 18:47.37 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: uname -a for the target system. |
| 18:47.46 | mingtsay | Dagger: now is time to do nat, but don't know how in ip6tables |
| 18:47.56 | Dagger | mingtsay: should be a 3.2 kernel then, which accept_ra=2 should work on |
| 18:48.02 | GJPMiningco | Linux afterslang 2.6.32-042stab085.20 #1 SMP Fri Mar 21 19:07:05 MSK 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 18:48.02 | Chewy64 | Holy fuck editing text files vi command line is a pain in the ass. |
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| 18:48.36 | Dagger | mingtsay: nah, now's the time to do a firewall. don't bother with NAT |
| 18:48.49 | mingtsay | Dagger: Linux Version 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 18:49.00 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: so, not debian. you realize this is the debian support channel? |
| 18:49.51 | GJPMiningco | sorry i thought the new system was debian also |
| 18:50.17 | mingtsay | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/u9cV5zxi |
| 18:51.11 | mingtsay | Dagger: I can ping6 but other device cannot |
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| 18:52.02 | modyn | what is better to use? 3.2.0-4-amd64 or 2.6.32-042stab085.20? |
| 18:53.06 | sysvalve | The most recent |
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| 18:53.18 | modyn | ? |
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| 18:54.05 | Chewy64 | And here I am thinking this would be easier than ubuntu... Looks like it's just as much of a PITA. |
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| 18:55.40 | Dagger | mingtsay: hm, `ifconfig` and `ip -6 r` from the other device? |
| 18:55.58 | GJPMiningco | whats the command to do a dist upgrade? |
| 18:56.04 | Dagger | mingtsay: also I can't ping 2001:b010:3040:1a01::1, I get this: "From 2001:b000:82:5:21:2205:1:1 icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: Unknown code 6" (which I've never seen before...) |
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| 18:57.40 | SynrG | Chewy64: vi? you don't need to use that. try nano |
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| 18:58.01 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Only way i know how. Nano? I'll gogle it. |
| 18:58.08 | Chewy64 | Nothing will boot anymore though. |
| 18:58.12 | burntsynapse1 | nano is pretty straightforward |
| 18:58.16 | Chewy64 | Not sure it matters. |
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| 18:58.33 | SynrG | Chewy64: well, if you know vi and are comfortable with it, fine. but nano should be installed by default |
| 18:58.48 | GJPMiningco | whats the command to do a distro upgrade on Debian linux |
| 18:58.56 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I "know" it, but hate it with a passion that consumes my soul. |
| 18:59.12 | SynrG | Chewy64: then nano should be more comfortable |
| 18:59.18 | burntsynapse1 | why do you hate vi, if youdon't mid me asking? |
| 18:59.41 | carletes | Hi |
| 19:00.10 | Chewy64 | burntsynapse1, Becasue it's higly unintuative. Pressing d accidentally will delete a whole fucking line. |
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| 19:00.32 | burntsynapse1 | This is absolutely true... |
| 19:01.03 | Chewy64 | Nano seems nice! |
| 19:01.27 | burntsynapse1 | yep, straightforward, and no real "dafuqi just do" surprises |
| 19:01.50 | Chewy64 | Hahaha, exactly. |
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| 19:02.27 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: depends. there are steps to do before that. at paste.debian.net show the output of 'apt-cache policy' |
| 19:02.42 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: upgrading from what to what, btw? |
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| 19:04.03 | mingtsay | Dagger: I restart networking and the sysctl is back to accept_ra=1, forwarding=1 |
| 19:04.20 | Chewy64 | Could not resolves that address either. |
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| 19:04.25 | GJPMiningco | i need to upgrade from 2.6.32-042stab085.20 #1 SMP Fri Mar 21 19:07:05 MSK 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux to 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 19:04.28 | Dagger | mingtsay: yeah, it will be, you'll have to script setting those sysctls |
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| 19:04.40 | GJPMiningco | both are debian linux |
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| 19:05.02 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: i can't see how the first is. that's a non-debian kernel. that's why i wanted to see 'apt-cache policy' |
| 19:05.03 | GJPMiningco | running on a VPS servers |
| 19:05.09 | burntsynapse1 | so I think I am having a problem with formatting under uefi... anyone got a sec to answer a question? |
| 19:05.33 | mingtsay | Dagger: I do, I created a file in /etc/ppp/ipv6-up.d |
| 19:06.32 | mingtsay | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qqJj360E |
| 19:07.28 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Won't find them their either |
| 19:07.36 | Dagger | mingtsay: remembered to +x it? |
| 19:07.37 | mingtsay | Dagger: also I "chmod a+x" |
| 19:07.47 | Dagger | yes, then :p |
| 19:07.48 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: sounds like centos to me. |
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| 19:08.01 | mingtsay | but still back to 1 and 1 |
| 19:08.02 | GJPMiningco | http://pastebin.com/Kugn33GE |
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| 19:08.21 | burntsynapse1 | I built my system with crunchbang, and wanted to rebuild it with straight debian. Problem: BIOS/UEFI will now no longer recognize ANY live media, even the original #! installer |
| 19:08.36 | burntsynapse1 | anyone see this before? |
| 19:09.11 | Dagger | mingtsay: not sure then, I don't have much experience with pppd but I think that's all I did to get my scripts to run... |
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| 19:10.11 | GJPMiningco | SynrG, did you see the link i posted |
| 19:10.18 | mingtsay | Dagger: I got the ip 2001:b010:3040:1a00:d1f7:dd7e:2fdb:f11d |
| 19:11.08 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: and the output of 'apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64' please |
| 19:11.14 | Dagger | mingtsay: that's responding to pings |
| 19:11.21 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: yes, i was just looking it over. that part looks in order. |
| 19:12.35 | mingtsay | Dagger: but my friend said his Cisco will got 2001:b010:xxxx:xxxY:: prefix, for single PC Y = 0 and for Routers Y=1 |
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| 19:13.15 | mingtsay | Dagger: so I need to configure to let my client to use Y=1 IPs |
| 19:14.14 | Dagger | mingtsay: if your DHCPv6 config file was correct, you should have a /56 to play with, so you can pick any of 2001:b010:3040:1aXX::/64 to use |
| 19:14.18 | GJPMiningco | SynrG, here is the paste from the other machine |
| 19:14.23 | GJPMiningco | http://pastebin.com/CGt8dRPm |
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| 19:14.43 | Chewy64 | Ok, well fuck this. I'm just going to reinstall. |
| 19:14.57 | GJPMiningco | i need the 2 machines to match ( in the hopes that then i can get the IPtables transfered with no problems ) |
| 19:15.26 | mingtsay | Dagger: really? so I can try to use 1abc ? |
| 19:15.42 | mingtsay | Dagger: it looks more cute and geek (? |
| 19:15.42 | SynrG | Chewy64: sorry, missed your last comment. won't find what where either? |
| 19:16.13 | SynrG | Chewy64: just put your whole /etc/apt/sources.list at paste.debian.net. i'm sure we'll easily spot the error |
| 19:16.19 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Won't fin any of the repositories, on any of the mirrors I feed it. |
| 19:16.22 | SynrG | Chewy64: you must've typed something wrong in there |
| 19:16.24 | Dagger | mingtsay: if the "sla-len 8" is right. but your upstream router is responding with errors for those... |
| 19:16.39 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I can't do that, at least not easily. I only have a command line. |
| 19:16.46 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: sure. but if it's one pure wheezy system to another, that should 'just work' |
| 19:17.03 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: but i suspect your destination machine was not originally wheezy and you tried to "convert" it |
| 19:17.05 | mingtsay | Dagger: maybe sla-len should be 2 |
| 19:17.11 | mingtsay | or 1 |
| 19:17.24 | GJPMiningco | ok SynrG can you pm me |
| 19:17.30 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: this is not a supported thing to do (i mean, an upgrade of one debian release to another is supported, but that's not what it looks like) |
| 19:17.33 | SynrG | no |
| 19:18.03 | GJPMiningco | ok |
| 19:18.07 | GJPMiningco | here is the deal |
| 19:18.21 | phillyj | does my partition have to be empty before I install debian on it? |
| 19:18.23 | GJPMiningco | the 2.x.x machine is a VPS OpenVZ machine |
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| 19:18.36 | GJPMiningco | the 3.x.x machine is a VPS machine |
| 19:18.41 | Chewy64 | phillyj, No, it'll format it when installing. |
| 19:19.07 | Dagger | mingtsay: only your ISP can say |
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| 19:20.55 | mingtsay | Dagger: I know that I have two prefix, 2001:b010:3040:1a0X::/64, X = 0 or 1 |
| 19:21.29 | mingtsay | Dagger: so do I have to set sla-len to 1 or just remove that line ? |
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| 19:22.04 | petn-randall | AciD``: I see, you're for some reason missing the "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org>". You could import it manually from where the package places it. |
| 19:23.09 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: i don't know what an 'openvz machine' is. which distribution? |
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| 19:23.31 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: some image your VPS provider put on there, or something you installed yourself? |
| 19:24.14 | GJPMiningco | the vps provider installed |
| 19:24.43 | Dagger | mingtsay: I don't know enough about DHCPv6, sorry :( |
| 19:24.47 | GJPMiningco | OpenVZ |
| 19:24.49 | GJPMiningco | OpenVZ (Open Virtuozzo) is an operating system-level virtualization technology based on the Linux kernel and operating system. OpenVZ allows a physical server to run multiple isolated operating system instances, called containers, virtual private servers (VPSs), or virtual environments (VEs). |
| 19:25.20 | SynrG | i just don't understand why it has a custom kernel. |
| 19:25.24 | Dagger | mingtsay: you could try setting "sla-id 0", which will use :1a00:: (for which traffic *is* reaching you, rather than being rejected by your upstream) |
| 19:25.42 | SynrG | if the guest operating system needs customizations in the kernel it's likely upgrading to the stock kernel will break it. |
| 19:26.01 | AciD`` | petn-randall > thank you ! Could you point me to some manual that explain how to do that ? |
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| 19:28.12 | SynrG | GJPMiningco: and this is why we only support debian here. we don't know what customizations your VPS provider made, and any advice we give here could very well break your system. |
| 19:28.16 | AciD`` | petn-randall > I found that manual https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#How_to_find_and_add_a_key, but it seems I don't know where to find the key number |
| 19:28.21 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Fresh install has graphics issues now too. FFS. |
| 19:29.03 | GJPMiningco | Let it Break it |
| 19:29.11 | GJPMiningco | I am up to try anything at this point |
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| 19:30.54 | AciD`` | it looks like `gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys ED6D6527` was not the way to add the `ED6D 6527 1AAC F0FF 15D1 2303 6FB2 A1C2 65FF B764` key :x |
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| 19:31.02 | mingtsay | Dagger: no different when I configure dhcp |
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| 19:31.44 | mingtsay | Dagger: I think maybe I have do something with ip6tables … it is nothing inside now |
| 19:32.38 | mingtsay | Dagger: do you bridge or do anything between eth1 (intranet) and ppp0 (internet) ? |
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| 19:33.13 | AciD`` | petn-randall > ok, `wget https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys/archive-key-7.0.asc && gpg --import archive-key-7.0.asc` did the trick |
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| 19:33.34 | SynrG | Chewy64: well, i didn't expect a reinstall to fix it. i had wanted to help you fix your sources.list to get wheezy-backports in there properly. |
| 19:33.39 | Dagger | mingtsay: just for routing, no, you don't. can you pastebin `ifconfig` and `ip -6 r` again? (on the server... and maybe the client might be useful too) |
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| 19:33.56 | SynrG | Chewy64: as for paste, yes you can. use nopaste |
| 19:34.00 | SynrG | !nopaste |
| 19:34.00 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
| 19:34.38 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I did a reinstall. I don't have the time right now to fuck around with that unfortunetly. |
| 19:34.43 | SynrG | Chewy64: i know it's frustrating, but we will eventually get there. this is a case of 'too new' vid cards for wheezy, which is a bit older. |
| 19:34.59 | AciD`` | petn-randall > ...but still does not solve the pb :( (cf. http://paste.kde.org/puyxpgvsr) |
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| 19:35.10 | SynrG | Chewy64: i'm hopeful that with wheezy-backports kernel and fglrx-driver, the grief will be over. |
| 19:35.27 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Never could get the 290X's working on any of the others I;ve tried either. I can get them reporting temps, but enver to actually DO anything. |
| 19:35.44 | mingtsay | Dagger: here you are, https://gist.github.com/mingtsay/2f6859e44b17464fab94 |
| 19:36.31 | SynrG | !fglrx-driver |
| 19:36.31 | dpkg | fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD/ATI Radeon HD and FirePro graphic processing units. As of fglrx-driver 1:12-6~beta-1, R600 and R700 based GPUs (Radeon HD 2000/3000/4000 series) are no longer supported; ask me about <fglrx legacy> or use the <radeon> driver for device support. To install fglrx, see http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary or ask me about <fglrx dkms>. |
| 19:36.38 | SynrG | oops, meant this: |
| 19:36.42 | SynrG | ,v fglrx-driver |
| 19:36.44 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:13.12-4~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.3~beta1.0-1; sid/non-free: 1:14.4~rc1.0.apr17-1 |
| 19:37.22 | SynrG | Chewy64: well, while 13.x isn't the absolute latest, it's worth a shot. |
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| 19:38.39 | AciD`` | petn-randall > and no luck with that updated key (2014) here http://archive.debian-ports.org/archive_2014.key : http://paste.kde.org/pyfia2cey |
| 19:38.43 | AciD`` | one work : WTF |
| 19:38.47 | AciD`` | *word |
| 19:40.09 | Chewy64 | Sycamore, Frstrating doesn;t even cover it. I've been trying to get these cards working for a month and a half. |
| 19:40.21 | Sycamore | ? |
| 19:40.40 | SynrG | Sycamore: he meant me |
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| 19:41.25 | SynrG | Chewy64: on the other OS, do you know if you were using upstream's latest stable, i.e. fglrx 14.4? |
| 19:41.31 | Dagger | mingtsay: ah, hm, the :1a00:: address is on ppp0. that kinda suggests that you don't have a /56 routed to you (because 1a00 would be inside it) |
| 19:41.51 | AciD`` | petn-randall > not with `gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 623DB0B8` T_T (cf. http://paste.kde.org/pg1mj4c9f) |
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| 19:43.18 | mingtsay | Dagger: maybe I have :1a00::/63 |
| 19:43.40 | Dagger | mingtsay: it might be that you aren't getting a routed allocation, or that you've misconfigured DHCPv6 so it's not making the request properly (checked the logs?), or that your ISP doesn't even use DHCPv6... I'm not sure I can help much more with my current experience with DHCPv6 (none) and knowledge of your ISP (all the info is in Chinese...) |
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| 19:44.37 | mingtsay | Dagger: I use my router (SOHO AP, RT-N16) and got the IPv6 before |
| 19:44.40 | Dagger | mingtsay: that would be a really odd allocation, and it has the same problem as the /56 would: the /64 on your upstream interface should not be taken from your routed allocation |
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| 19:44.58 | mingtsay | Dagger: but I cannot change MTU in radvd.conf so I decide to use my Debian server |
| 19:45.09 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I've done so much, with so many different OS's, I can't keep track any more. It have been, it may not have been. |
| 19:45.14 | Dagger | mingtsay: but your routed allocation could be :1a01::/64 I guess (that's a pathetically small allocation, but I wouldn't put it past your ISP to do it) |
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| 19:46.32 | mingtsay | Dagger: All what I know is if I connect via my Debian server will get :1a00::/64, and using router will get :1a01::/64 for more than one client |
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| 19:47.09 | mingtsay | Dagger: so my ISP will automatic detect which to allocate? |
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| 19:48.02 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Well, that is all the time I have to fuck with it. Just going to have to flip back to ubuntu so I can at least use the two 7950s. |
| 19:48.23 | Dagger | mingtsay: try "sla-len 1; sla-id 0" maybe? (basically guessing here) |
| 19:48.32 | mingtsay | Dagger: let me try to set ppp0.forward=1 and eth1.forward=0 ? |
| 19:48.39 | SynrG | Chewy64: well, there are three versions floating around that may work for you, the one in backports, the one in testing, the one in unstable ... if you can confirm what fglrx version works with the 7950s in ubuntu ... |
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| 19:49.05 | SynrG | Chewy64: then we would have some notion of what your chances are with the version(s) in debian |
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| 19:49.12 | Dagger | mingtsay: your ISP will have some configured maximum allocation you can ask for... but I'm not sure how that interacts with WIDE's config settings (i.e. if you request too big a block, what happens?) |
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| 19:50.04 | HisaoPhone | Hi. For some reason a user on a Debian Stable (KDE, v4.8.4) system is unable to see anything in their Trash, even though they do have files there. How may I fix this? |
| 19:50.09 | mingtsay | Dagger: do you have any DHCPD v6 suggestion for me ? |
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| 19:50.52 | AciD`` | ok I f*cking give up. I imported the key I found in the configuration on a working server, into the faulty one, and it STILL does not work as expected. http://paste.kde.org/pgsmvqsup |
| 19:51.01 | AciD`` | what the f*ck. |
| 19:51.04 | Dagger | mingtsay: nope, never needed to use DHCPv6 |
| 19:51.16 | mingtsay | Dagger: my ISP has a free-call service number 0800-080-412, but it is about no one knows about IPv6 |
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| 19:51.32 | mingtsay | Dagger: or say rare |
| 19:52.02 | mingtsay | Dagger: I want to give my client static IPv6 without set them to manual |
| 19:52.33 | mingtsay | Dagger: but I strongly think not DHCPd cause the problem |
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| 19:52.41 | Dagger | mingtsay: you can ask in #ipv6, but if you ask about your connection specifically, they'll probably just say "ask your ISP" |
| 19:53.13 | Chewy64 | SynrG, fglrx Ubuntu = 2:13.101-0ubuntu0.0.1 |
| 19:53.44 | mingtsay | Dagger: I think I have to FORWARD between eth1 and ppp0 |
| 19:53.47 | SynrG | Chewy64: chances are good that wheezy-backports will help, then. at least for that card. |
| 19:54.17 | Dagger | mingtsay: well, the problem is that you need some /64 to go on eth1, and you don't have one at the moment (if it's supposed to be :1a01:, then your ISP is rejecting traffic to there -- you might have to do a successful DHCPv6-PD request to receive traffic to it) |
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| 19:55.03 | mingtsay | Dagger: oh, it means my ISP thinks that I am not a router |
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| 19:57.58 | Dagger | mingtsay: _presumably_ it's the DHCPv6-PD request that makes them think you are, I guess? |
| 19:58.15 | mingtsay | Dagger: let me change "send ia-pd" from 0 to 1 |
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| 20:03.55 | d3lxa | any idea why my interface RX/TX for eth0 is always 0, whereas my eth1 is fine? |
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| 20:04.27 | d3lxa | (I'm usually using eth0, and xmobar cannot get its stat, annoying, sometimes I use eth1, but rarely) |
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| 20:05.45 | Alpaka | good evening ... is there, maybe, someone who can point me in the right direction? |
| 20:06.54 | Alpaka | I've got another system next to me which --inconsistently-- crashes hard (_no_ reaction to be gotten out of it ... no mouse, no keyboard, no ping reply, no ssh either) for no apparent reason |
| 20:06.58 | Nik05 | points in the right direction |
| 20:07.20 | burntsynapse1 | did you check he logs? |
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| 20:07.24 | burntsynapse1 | *the logs |
| 20:07.51 | Alpaka | until two days ago, running I-don't-know-what-*buntu, it happened right after starting the system before moving the cursor in X for more than an inch |
| 20:08.08 | Nik05 | this channel is not about ubuntu |
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| 20:08.34 | Alpaka | I know, that's what I'm getting to |
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| 20:10.07 | Alpaka | I unplugged the hdd and installed a clean Debian 7 on a new hdd; the problem disappeared for a day; since somewhen this afternoon, the lockups are appening again - usually logged into lxde when starting iceweasel without a network cable attached to the system |
| 20:11.24 | Alpaka | it does not happen when I start anything to monitor basic things like CPU/RAM load before starting Iceweasel |
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| 20:11.52 | Nik05 | nothing in the logs? |
| 20:12.24 | Alpaka | nothing in dmesg or syslog |
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| 20:12.53 | Alpaka | logging seems stop as well |
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| 20:13.45 | luminous | how would you hook up a file you created with dd as a virtual hd? |
| 20:14.25 | Nik05 | mount -o loop img point |
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| 20:14.33 | brightkill | luminous: mount |
| 20:14.58 | luminous | ah, nice and simple. thanks! |
| 20:15.09 | luminous | actually, no wait |
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| 20:15.27 | luminous | I'd like the disks to be seen as a device in /dev |
| 20:15.33 | luminous | 'disks' |
| 20:15.52 | brightkill | luminous: it's a unix |
| 20:16.11 | Nik05 | luminous losetup /dev/loop0 foo.img |
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| 20:16.15 | brightkill | all devices can be represented as files |
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| 20:16.32 | luminous | brightkill: I understand it as possible, but not how :) |
| 20:16.38 | brightkill | Nik05: no need to use losetup |
| 20:16.39 | luminous | hence the question |
| 20:16.54 | luminous | brightkill: what is your method? |
| 20:17.10 | brightkill | luminous: just use mount |
| 20:17.27 | luminous | that doesn't make sense |
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| 20:17.42 | Nik05 | mount also creates a loop device |
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| 20:18.01 | brightkill | yup |
| 20:18.08 | luminous | ok, I'll have toread up the manpage |
| 20:18.17 | brightkill | but mount is "smart" now :) |
| 20:18.24 | petn-randall | AciD``: apt-key and gpg don't act on the same keyring, you need to do 'apt-key import /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg'. |
| 20:18.40 | brightkill | and can mount almost everything without additional arguments |
| 20:19.44 | luminous | brightkill: but I'm not looking to mount the files, I'm looking for them to be seen as disks by the system, so I can experiment with ZFS on those 'disks' |
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| 20:20.17 | luminous | maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how zfs would treat them as disks when mounted with mount |
| 20:20.46 | AciD`` | petn-randall > `apt-key add archive_2014.key` returns 'OK', but still does not fix the pb T_T |
| 20:20.59 | luminous | reading the manpage is seems mount does one or both steps |
| 20:21.04 | luminous | so that makes more sense |
| 20:21.17 | petn-randall | AciD``: So 'apt-get update' still shows errors? |
| 20:21.17 | AciD`` | (and apt-get import archive_2014.key does not work) |
| 20:21.20 | AciD`` | yes |
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| 20:22.02 | AciD`` | petn-randall > cf. http://paste.kde.org/pfkfrtvdz |
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| 20:22.47 | petn-randall | AciD``: Where do you have those keys from? |
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| 20:23.58 | petn-randall | barhom: CONFIG_USB_CONFIGFS_MASS_STORAGE is what you're looking for. |
| 20:24.05 | AciD`` | petn-randall > some from my other debian server (which works well in regards to the keyrings), the other from https://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2014/01/msg00087.html |
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| 20:24.31 | petn-randall | barhom: This is why it pays off to stay in the channel for more than 10 minutes after asking ;) |
| 20:24.41 | barhom | petn-randall: hehe, yeh ;) |
| 20:24.44 | barhom | thanks so much |
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| 20:25.03 | barhom | so USB gadget then, I reads some of that while googling |
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| 20:25.28 | petn-randall | barhom: It's a kernel module, which you can pass a file or block device to pass to the master as mass storage device. |
| 20:25.53 | barhom | petn-randall: will I require any special hardware like a special USB device? |
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| 20:26.02 | petn-randall | AciD``: the package 'debian-archive-keyring' has them, no need to take them from somewhere. |
| 20:26.44 | petn-randall | barhom: You will still need a device that can act as a USB slave, yes. 'usb gadget' may also be an alternative keyword to look for. |
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| 20:27.06 | AciD`` | petn-randall > ok, but `apt-key import /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg` is not a functional command :x |
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| 20:27.19 | petn-randall | AciD``: Sorry, it should be 'apt-key add ...'. |
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| 20:28.05 | Klaus_Dieter | hello world |
| 20:28.16 | AciD`` | NICE ! |
| 20:28.36 | AciD`` | thank you petn-randall, doing apt-key add /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg finally solved the pb |
| 20:28.49 | AciD`` | weird that the postinst didn't do it's job, but still |
| 20:28.53 | AciD`` | thank you |
| 20:28.54 | AciD`` | :) |
| 20:29.03 | petn-randall | AciD``: You're welcome, glad I could help. |
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| 20:42.39 | Klaus_Dieter | when I am trying to start my ejabberd service I am getting "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. |
| 20:42.52 | Klaus_Dieter | however I do not have X running as this is a server that does not need x |
| 20:42.57 | Klaus_Dieter | what can I do about this? |
| 20:43.33 | abrotman | found prosody to be more than adequate, and less of a PITA |
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| 20:48.46 | Klaus_Dieter | abrotman: probably anything is less a pita than ejabberd |
| 20:48.55 | Klaus_Dieter | I will have a look at prosody. thanks for the hint. |
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| 20:51.42 | mingtsay | Dagger: I tried a hour, no good news |
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| 20:53.53 | mingtsay | Dagger: I tried change my prefix to :1a00::/64 that i recieved, damn... I have the route to google... |
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| 20:56.16 | Dagger | mingtsay: using :1a00::/64 on eth1 should maybe probably work (if you clear out the public addresses on ppp0), but it'll /only/ work because your upstream is point-to-point -- it's a buggered config that happens to work ok for ptp upstreams |
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| 20:57.24 | mingtsay | Dagger: I go change my DNS record... |
| 20:58.10 | mingtsay | Dagger: next is to find out all my devices' duid ...... |
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| 21:07.29 | b4rt | HOSTING FREE LOOK: http://api.hostinger.es/redir/3587350/ :D |
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| 21:08.32 | Marenz | greetings |
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| 21:09.00 | Marenz | I just debootstrap'ed a system but in the chroot the /boot is empty even though I did apt-get install linux-image-amd64 |
| 21:09.16 | Marenz | and apt-get install grub2-common grub-pc zfs-initramfs |
| 21:09.34 | Marenz | I have the feeling I am missing something |
| 21:10.02 | somiaj | Marenz: did you run those commands inside the chroot? |
| 21:10.06 | Marenz | yse |
| 21:10.07 | Marenz | *yes |
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| 21:10.31 | Marenz | Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... -> /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 does not exist. Cannot update. |
| 21:11.14 | somiaj | Marenz: something is odd there, your /boot in the chroot isn't full or have some strange mount options? |
| 21:11.29 | Marenz | I accidently didn't have it mounted the first time I ran the commands, so I stopped, mounted it, and did the same commands with --reinstall |
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| 21:12.22 | somiaj | Marenz: then what ever you mounted you mounted over what was put there, unmount the boot partition and mount it somewhere else (like /mnt) |
| 21:12.40 | Marenz | I was hoping it would be regenerated |
| 21:12.45 | Klaus_Dieter | abrotman: it starts with ejabberd needing three services to run which will not shut down cleanly... well, prosody is available for arm and it even allows registering an account but the login does not work due to authentication error |
| 21:12.52 | Klaus_Dieter | yes I am using the correct password |
| 21:12.54 | Klaus_Dieter | ... |
| 21:13.38 | abrotman | Klaus_Dieter: It's been awhile .. I'd have to read the docs again ... I recall it being pretty darn easy |
| 21:13.47 | abrotman | wonders if it used SASL |
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| 21:14.12 | somiaj | Marenz: It seems like the --reinstall option is doing something before unpacking the packgages again that is erroring out, I would just copy the stuff and then clean up /boot on the root partition to ensure you dont' have trouble later on |
| 21:14.33 | Marenz | k, doign that |
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| 21:16.23 | Klaus_Dieter | well, this might be an issue with kde-telepathy as my cell phone connects to the service easily |
| 21:16.33 | Klaus_Dieter | abrotman: thank you for the hint iwth prosody |
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| 21:53.34 | wingnut2626 | Howdy guys, how can I get some more console fonts? |
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| 21:54.37 | squisher | hey folks, I'm feeding my email through sa-exim to spamc. Somehow a lot of spam is getting through. So I fed some spam with 3 points to spamc by hand, it get gets a 10 score... how can that be? |
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| 21:55.54 | squisher | wingnut2626, 'apt-cache search console | grep font' shows some hits. YMMV, I haven't changed my console font myself |
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| 22:22.46 | MeanEYE | Did anyone else had problem with testing and libgoa-1.0-0b? |
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| 22:27.16 | centrx | MeanEYE, It's not in testing? |
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| 22:27.40 | MeanEYE | Well, update wants to remove it and install libgoa-1.0-0. |
| 22:27.52 | MeanEYE | And it breaks more or less entire Gnome. |
| 22:28.22 | Rusty1 | MeanEYE: try aptitude install libgoa-1.0-0b |
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| 22:28.38 | Rusty1 | or is it installed |
| 22:28.39 | centrx | MeanEYE, Did you upgrade to the version of Gnome in experimental? |
| 22:29.06 | MeanEYE | Rubin, that will remove most of my gnome. If I try to install libgoa-1.0-0 then it wants to remove other stuff. |
| 22:29.13 | MeanEYE | centrx, just did a dist-upgrade. |
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| 22:29.39 | centrx | MeanEYE, You are likely to have problems using software from experimental |
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| 22:29.49 | MeanEYE | Hm. |
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| 22:30.04 | MeanEYE | So I shouldn't use dist-upgrade. |
| 22:30.17 | MeanEYE | Got that, now how do I solve this? |
| 22:30.18 | centrx | MeanEYE, It depends on what you have in our sources.list |
| 22:30.36 | MeanEYE | Didn't really touch anything. |
| 22:30.46 | centrx | MeanEYE, You touched something to get testing |
| 22:31.03 | MeanEYE | It was installed from the start like that. |
| 22:31.06 | MeanEYE | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 22:31.09 | MeanEYE | Stuff like this. |
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| 22:34.03 | MeanEYE | So is there a way for me to revert changes or solve this issue somehow? |
| 22:34.19 | bdog7_ | why is #debian-next invite only? |
| 22:34.35 | centrx | bdog7_, The channel is on OFTC |
| 22:34.51 | bdog7_ | k |
| 22:34.53 | centrx | MeanEYE, Downgrades are not reliable. |
| 22:35.04 | centrx | MeanEYE, Paste your complete sources.list at paste.debian.net |
| 22:35.08 | MeanEYE | Sure. |
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| 22:35.46 | MeanEYE | centrx, http://paste.debian.net/95938/ |
| 22:36.22 | Smerdyakov | Is there any way to get a more recent version of xserver-xorg-video-radeon for wheezy? I think my graphics card is just barely ahead of the range supported in stable. |
| 22:36.45 | centrx | MeanEYE, I would comment out the last two lines (testing-updates). Those are for stable release. |
| 22:36.53 | MeanEYE | Okay. |
| 22:37.06 | centrx | MeanEYE, Did you do apt-get update before apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:37.17 | MeanEYE | centrx, I don't think so. |
| 22:37.38 | centrx | MeanEYE, Okay, comment out those lines and run apt-get update |
| 22:37.46 | MeanEYE | centrx, Thanks! |
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| 22:37.49 | centrx | MeanEYE, You need to run apt-get update in order to get the latest package list |
| 22:37.58 | MeanEYE | Okay. |
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| 22:38.45 | centrx | Smerdyakov, There is no update for xserver-xorg-video-radeon in wheezy-backports. |
| 22:39.00 | MeanEYE | centrx, Did that, now what? |
| 22:39.10 | Smerdyakov | centrx, shucks. Any advice on what to do for Radeon HD 7700 series? |
| 22:39.14 | centrx | Smerdyakov, You can try fglrx, the non-free driver (which may support your card in wheezy, or there is a wheezy-backports for it) |
| 22:39.45 | centrx | MeanEYE, What is your goal here, just update testing? |
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| 22:40.15 | Smerdyakov | centrx, I tried that and experienced some crazy stuff, like Gnome changing its interface! |
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| 22:40.45 | MeanEYE | centrx, At this point pieces of gnome are missing. If I do apt-get install gnome I this http://paste.debian.net/95941/ |
| 22:41.17 | MeanEYE | So I just want to get back at functional state and not worry about if my machine will work next time I reboot. |
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| 22:41.22 | centrx | MeanEYE, Try: dpkg --configure -a |
| 22:41.40 | MeanEYE | centrx, Nothing. |
| 22:42.00 | centrx | MeanEYE, How about just "apt-get install" |
| 22:42.09 | MeanEYE | Without any parameters? |
| 22:42.45 | MeanEYE | Says everything's fine and suggests that I run autoremove. |
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| 22:43.32 | Smerdyakov | centrx, OK, I'll try it again. |
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| 22:44.24 | centrx | MeanEYE, Did you try running apt-get install gnome again after doing apt-get update ? |
| 22:45.01 | MeanEYE | Complains about gnome-core being unable to be installed. |
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| 22:46.11 | centrx | MeanEYE, For some reason it seems to be trying to get the gnome package from unstable |
| 22:46.17 | MeanEYE | yeah. |
| 22:46.23 | MeanEYE | I think some of the packages were upgraded. |
| 22:46.33 | MeanEYE | Aptitude suggested downgrade so am gonna let him do that. |
| 22:47.16 | MeanEYE | I have no idea why it's getting packaged from unstable :/ |
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| 22:49.35 | centrx | MeanEYE, try dpkg --purge gnome and try again |
| 22:49.38 | MeanEYE | Ah. |
| 22:49.46 | MeanEYE | Got it. Firefox repo is pushing unstable. |
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| 22:50.18 | centrx | You must have things in /etc/apt/sources.list.d |
| 22:50.25 | MeanEYE | Yeah, found it now. |
| 22:50.50 | MeanEYE | Once I removed that everything seems to be fine. |
| 22:51.07 | MeanEYE | Okay, sorry for the confusion. |
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| 22:51.17 | MeanEYE | And thanks for the help :) |
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| 22:52.01 | trampel | yeah... what -is- the relation between /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d (the latter's existence kinda snuck up on me) |
| 22:52.28 | MeanEYE | trampel, It's easier for softwares to put their own repo lists in directory and not edit your main file. |
| 22:52.47 | trampel | ok... but which "wins in a fight"? |
| 22:53.24 | MeanEYE | Apparently directory is loaded after main file so I guess it overrides it. |
| 22:53.51 | centrx | trampel, Probably determined by pinning/policy |
| 22:54.07 | trampel | and if one has no (active) pinning? |
| 22:54.12 | centrx | trampel, Otherwise, it might download the same file twice but there shouldn't be a fight |
| 22:54.17 | centrx | trampel, Then highest version wins |
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| 22:54.42 | BackEndCoder | ok so is there some clever way i can increase my root partition size without a recovery cd ? |
| 22:55.06 | centrx | BackEndCoder, Use a recovery floppy disk? |
| 22:55.08 | BackEndCoder | this laptop i have will only let me boot from the hdd, getting debain on it in the first place was a nightmare |
| 22:55.11 | teraflops | a live cd with gparted |
| 22:55.13 | teraflops | xD |
| 22:55.33 | BackEndCoder | so single user mode will also mount my root ? |
| 22:55.51 | luisfpetrucci | hello guys, I'm trying to install gtk+2.24 from source in wheezy but when I run the configure script I have this issue http://pastebin.com/ba3iikFa someone knows something about it? thanks a lot before hand. |
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| 22:56.04 | BackEndCoder | so the only way to do it, would be to join this hdd onto another system as a secondry drive, then use gparted |
| 22:56.06 | BackEndCoder | right ok thanks |
| 22:56.45 | BackEndCoder | all because i need the latest version on flash, and it seems to only come with chrome, so i need to make sure my /opt is big enough meh |
| 22:57.11 | BackEndCoder | accully i could probably sort /opt out, just not / |
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| 23:01.10 | centrx | luisfpetrucci, Isn't gtk 2.24 already on wheezy? |
| 23:01.35 | centrx | luisfpetrucci, https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libgtk2.0-0 |
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| 23:02.01 | rook2pawn | or perhaps more easily, is there a debian netinstaller which contains the non-free firmware already included in the ISO |
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| 23:02.49 | trampel | rook2pawn: you might have a read here (it might be as easy as copying the custom firmware onto the same source devince): https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en |
| 23:02.53 | centrx | rook2pawn, It looks like there is already one on https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/debian-installer/ ? |
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| 23:03.57 | luisfpetrucci | centrx, thanks but I download the source code from www.gtk.org because I'm trying to install compiz and these is one of the dependencies |
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| 23:04.36 | centrx | luisfpetrucci, So use the Debian package to satisfy the dependency? |
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| 23:06.45 | rook2pawn | centrx: perfect.. they have the 220mb installer with the non-free software. for my information, how did you find that link? I couldn't find it |
| 23:07.13 | centrx | rook2pawn, https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+non-free+iso |
| 23:07.46 | centrx | rook2pawn, non-free is the Debian term for software that does not meet the DFSG but is still distributed for user convenience. |
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| 23:08.53 | burntsynapse1 | Is there a known issue where UEFI systems will not recognize bootable media AFTER linux has been installed? |
| 23:09.48 | rook2pawn | what would be awesome if there was a way to get to that page just by navigating from http://debian.org |
| 23:09.50 | luisfpetrucci | cntrx, I installed the package libgtk2.0-0_2.24.10-2_i386.deb in debian.org/releases/wheezy but the configure script for compiz still say me "package 'gtk+-2.0' not found" |
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| 23:12.13 | burntsynapse1 | I'm getting this weird problem when trying to replace #! with debian/i3, but my UEFI/BIOS is refusing to see any bootable media. Even the original #! install |
| 23:13.05 | centrx | rook2pawn, Found it: front page -> Release Info (under Documentation) -> stable -> installation information |
| 23:13.32 | centrx | luisfpetrucci, In order to compile, you need to install the header/development files which are in the corresponding dev package |
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| 23:14.03 | centrx | luisfpetrucci, In this case, it is libgtk2.0-dev |
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| 23:14.56 | centrx | luisfpetrucci, Most likely, you only need to compile compiz, and all the dependencies are available as Debian packages |
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| 23:17.22 | luisfpetrucci | centrx: thanks a lot that solved my problem! :D |
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| 23:20.54 | Gottox | good evening. |
| 23:21.56 | Gottox | I got a problem with debians redmine: After moving to another server, it keeps the following: ActionController::RoutingError (No route matches [GET] "/"): |
| 23:24.39 | centrx | Gottox, Is the a configuration file for redmine related to URLs/routes? |
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| 23:26.22 | Gottox | centrx: it should be set by lighttpd passing X_DEBIAN_SITEID to the fcgi dispatcher |
| 23:27.03 | centrx | Gottox, I don't know, that seems like the right area to look |
| 23:27.32 | Gottox | It does work when I use the rails internal webserver: RAILS_ENV=production X_DEBIAN_SITEID=default /usr/share/redmine/script/rails s |
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| 23:27.46 | centrx | Gottox, ActionController::RoutingError (No route matches [GET] "/") means the root path "/" is being accessed from the browser, but there is no rule defining the route for that path |
| 23:28.07 | centrx | Gottox, So if it worked before with the same configuration, and all the configuration files were moved properly, etc. |
| 23:28.31 | centrx | Gottox, Then it means the URLs redmine/rails/rack is seeing don't match up to what they used to be |
| 23:29.01 | centrx | Gottox, Also try #redmine |
| 23:29.11 | Gottox | it's a fresh debian testing, I thought I moved everything needed, but obviously I forgot smthing. |
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| 23:29.28 | Gottox | centrx: will ask there thank you for the prompt response :) |
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| 23:30.19 | centrx | Gottox, If your old server wasn't on testing, or if the package was updated in testing in the interim, then maybe the redmine version installed changed too. |
| 23:30.39 | Gottox | it was on testing too. |
| 23:31.37 | centrx | Gottox, #redmine or #rubyonrails may be more helpful. This day/time of day may not yield as much help as other days/times of day. |
| 23:31.46 | centrx | (in any channel) |
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| 23:32.35 | Gottox | centrx: thanks anyway :D |
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| 23:36.57 | rook2pawn | that's wierd, the firmware-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso does contain the /firmware, but once i am in the installer, and execute the shell, there is no /firmware |
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| 23:39.09 | rook2pawn | any idea on how to check or get the installer to read the /firmware on the removable reader? i have no confirmation that the installer detected or failed to detect the presence of /firmware |
| 23:40.38 | modyn | hi |
| 23:40.48 | modyn | how do i change ip bind and port for apache2? |
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| 23:41.26 | mtn | rook2pawn: what is the problem you are trying to solve? |
| 23:42.55 | rook2pawn | mtn: i want to install debian with the netinstaller |
| 23:43.13 | mtn | rook2pawn: and is something failing? what is the actual problem? |
| 23:43.35 | rook2pawn | the ethernet driver is not included for my laptop |
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| 23:44.02 | mtn | rook2pawn: at what point did the install fail? what happened? |
| 23:44.08 | mtn | !ask |
| 23:44.08 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 23:44.28 | rook2pawn | it failed at the detecting network hardware step |
| 23:44.49 | centrx | mtn, He's installing using the net install image that contains non-free firmware |
| 23:44.51 | rook2pawn | i assumed since i downloaded the special version that had the /firmware in the root directory of the ISO (i confirmed this), that it would check |
| 23:44.53 | mtn | rook2pawn: what installer? the exact name please |
| 23:45.00 | rook2pawn | firmware-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 23:45.00 | mtn | centrx: yes, I know that |
| 23:45.32 | metrix | spatialite-bin in stable has a bug that I believe is fixed in Debian Jessie/sid. What is the suggested way of getting a newer package installed on my machine? |
| 23:45.33 | centrx | Just getting you up to date on the rousing discussions we've been having here |
| 23:45.52 | mtn | centrx: oh, so this is a long going discussion? |
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| 23:47.10 | adh0c | manjaro |
| 23:47.13 | centrx | metrix, In order of preference and easiness: 1) Use wheezy-backports (check packages.debian.org/spacialite-bin), 2) Backport it yourself using the Debian source packages from testing/unstable, 3) Compile it/Download it from upstream source |
| 23:47.16 | adh0c | >_> |
| 23:47.18 | adh0c | <_< |
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| 23:47.35 | mtn | rook2pawn: ok, I don't know what has been said before, but it appears that the iso you have does not contain firmware for your device. |
| 23:47.38 | centrx | metrix, s/preference/reliability |
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| 23:50.01 | rook2pawn | i have an ideapad y510, found this thread http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=109335 and it said something about building it with initramfs and wheezy-backports |
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| 23:51.10 | metrix | centrx: Thank you for the help |
| 23:51.34 | rook2pawn | i really don't know where to proceed |
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| 23:53.06 | centrx | dpkg, tell metrix about ssb |
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| 23:54.40 | SynrG | rook2pawn: you can do a netless install, then install the wheezy-backports stuff after |
| 23:54.52 | SynrG | not really a big deal |
| 23:55.27 | naptastic | I've been using Gnome-do with MATE, which is no longer in Debian Jessie. Is there anything else in the main repos that offers similar functionality? (Something like OS X's spotlight--one of the few things OS X does right.) |
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