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| 00:00.30 | rook2pawn | SynrG: ah, that's a good idea |
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| 00:04.34 | rook2pawn | i just need the 1st cd correct? |
| 00:04.46 | centrx | Correct |
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| 00:22.04 | wingnut2626 | whats a good program to generate a run dialogue in X (openbox)? |
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| 00:23.39 | SynrG | wingnut2626: zenity |
| 00:23.51 | wingnut2626 | ill give it a try thanks |
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| 00:24.27 | naptastic | Is MATE desktop environment already in Sid? |
| 00:25.19 | SynrG | naptastic: only a part of it, and it's stuck due to release-critical bugs |
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| 00:25.27 | SynrG | so, not looking good |
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| 00:25.34 | wingnut2626 | I meant as in a dialog where you type a command to execute.... |
| 00:25.41 | SynrG | i don't know about the thing you've compared it to so can't advise |
| 00:25.56 | SynrG | wingnut2626: ah. i just use lxpanel, which has a run dialog |
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| 00:26.15 | naptastic | Roger that. |
| 00:26.16 | SynrG | but with zenity, you can make any dialog you want |
| 00:26.19 | wingnut2626 | oh ok. there is one gbrun or something like that I cant remember the name though |
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| 00:27.13 | cnz | anyone now how to fix this http://gyazo.com/30f53696ff07a739831f966b300093bb |
| 00:27.23 | cnz | I keep getting that when I try to connect to my wifi |
| 00:27.37 | SynrG | wingnut2626: bbrun or grun? :) |
| 00:27.40 | naptastic | SynrG, do you know about Cinnamon? |
| 00:27.49 | SynrG | naptastic: it's in similar poor shape |
| 00:28.07 | naptastic | SynrG, Gotcha. Alright, thanks! |
| 00:28.19 | SynrG | actually, i think part of make did actually migrate to jessie once |
| 00:28.25 | SynrG | ,v mate-desktop |
| 00:28.27 | judd | Package: mate-desktop on i386 -- jessie: 1.8.0+dfsg1-4; sid: 1.8.0+dfsg1-4 |
| 00:28.37 | SynrG | but this is not the whole desktop, apparently |
| 00:28.54 | naptastic | ,v mate-desktop-environment |
| 00:28.55 | judd | No package named 'mate-desktop-environment' was found in i386. |
| 00:28.58 | naptastic | indeed |
| 00:29.21 | naptastic | I installed MATE from the MATE official repos and it behaved very, very strangely, so I've removed it. |
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| 00:29.35 | naptastic | Figuring out what my next move should be. |
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| 00:29.50 | SynrG | ya. not good quality stuff. and we don't support stuff here from 3rd party repos regardless |
| 00:30.04 | naptastic | Exactly. #mate is pretty quiet... |
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| 00:30.30 | cnz | anyone? |
| 00:30.31 | SynrG | so, your options: kde, xfce ... |
| 00:30.51 | SynrG | lxde |
| 00:30.56 | naptastic | yeah, none of which I'm crazy about. I really like MATE--when it works. |
| 00:31.10 | SynrG | "when it works", hmph |
| 00:31.13 | naptastic | I miss the Gnome 2 that I had with Ubuntu 10. |
| 00:31.17 | cnz | well seeing no one can answer my question looks like it's too complicated for you guys |
| 00:31.20 | naptastic | hahaha :-) You get my meaning though |
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| 00:31.50 | SynrG | well, it's just that i've been happy alternating between gnome-shell, lxde and xfce4, depending on the needs of the specific system |
| 00:32.04 | SynrG | and they all work |
| 00:32.43 | naptastic | is picky... really, really picky. |
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| 00:33.18 | SynrG | cnz: yeah, i might have been interested in helping until you decided to insult |
| 00:33.25 | SynrG | forget it |
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| 00:35.42 | naptastic | When I figure out who this "peer" guy is, I'm gonna . . . |
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| 00:36.16 | cnz | SynrG I fixed it myself |
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| 00:36.33 | SynrG | good for you. :p |
| 00:36.42 | SynrG | sheesh. do the math. four guys asking questions and one answering |
| 00:36.51 | naptastic | ^^^ |
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| 00:37.20 | naptastic | Frankly, I'm impressed you knew the answer right off. Usually the best I can hope for is a more appropriate search venue. |
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| 00:53.45 | modyn | hi |
| 00:53.46 | modyn | {"result":null,"error":{"code":-32700,"message":"Parse error"},"id":null} |
| 00:53.51 | modyn | what is this? |
| 00:54.32 | naptastic | Looks like JSON :-) |
| 00:55.18 | naptastic | Without context though, the best suggestion I can make is that you may need to correct the formatting of whatever data you're sending. |
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| 01:08.36 | linuxator | i wanna install GNOME Awesome Applet in my Debian wheezy 7.4Gnome but i get this error'dependebcy is not satisfiable:python-Gnome-applet(>=2.30.2) how to fix this? |
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| 01:19.47 | Colloguy | is this just a problem with my system? in debian jessie, under xfce, the save dialog doesn't resolve symlinks to a folder... |
| 01:20.12 | SynrG | permissions problem? |
| 01:20.22 | Colloguy | I can "cd" into it jsut fine |
| 01:20.49 | SynrG | anyway, see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net for jessie support |
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| 01:23.39 | modyn | hi |
| 01:23.49 | modyn | i unrar a file |
| 01:23.57 | modyn | and the files was messed up |
| 01:23.59 | modyn | why? |
| 01:24.05 | modyn | all files in root |
| 01:24.11 | modyn | no folders created |
| 01:24.38 | centrx | Some archives are like that |
| 01:24.46 | modyn | no |
| 01:24.47 | SynrG | unrar will extract always to the current directory |
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| 01:24.53 | modyn | because on windows the file create folders |
| 01:24.56 | modyn | yes |
| 01:24.56 | SynrG | just list the rar first. |
| 01:25.02 | modyn | list? |
| 01:25.11 | SynrG | unrar l |
| 01:25.35 | SynrG | if there are no folders in the archive, there won't be folders when you extract it either |
| 01:25.45 | modyn | there are |
| 01:26.26 | modyn | unrar e file.rar |
| 01:26.31 | SynrG | sorry, i hardly ever use rar. unrar seems to support two options: e to extract and x to extract with full path |
| 01:26.32 | modyn | is this the command? |
| 01:26.33 | SynrG | try the latter |
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| 01:29.35 | SynrG | modyn: read the unrar man page. e extracts to current directory, x extracts with full path |
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| 01:32.03 | babilen | modyn: Or use scripts such as aunpack (atool package) which will create a directory if the entire content of the archive you are trying to extract would extrach to cwd |
| 01:32.16 | babilen | (it also handles every format you throw at it) |
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| 01:37.37 | modyn | SynrG: thanks |
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| 01:49.05 | bxhd494 | hi i'm using the uvcvideo driver with the lenovo easycamera. the picture is very dark even when i adjust brightness. can someone help me? |
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| 02:02.50 | ctmjr | bxhd494: guvcview might help you |
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| 02:04.32 | bxhd494 | ctmjr: i tried it. all it does is let you adjust brightness and contrast and other settings like that |
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| 02:04.56 | bxhd494 | also tried v4l2ucp |
| 02:05.47 | bxhd494 | i've tried getting help from #v4l but it's always dead in there |
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| 02:15.55 | ctmjr | bxhd494: i have never heard of it but it seems fswebcam might be an option it is in wheezy |
| 02:16.05 | atari314 | does anyone know if the 7.5 iso images are available on some mirror? |
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| 02:20.01 | somiaj | atari314: any reason you can't just upgrade a 7.4 install? |
| 02:20.52 | somiaj | it seems like it might still be a bit until the images are made. |
| 02:21.02 | ctmjr | bxhd494: after you install it run "fswebcam --set Exposure=100% -d /dev/video# -r 640x480 t.jpg" |
| 02:21.35 | atari314 | somiaj: ok, tks :) |
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| 02:25.53 | bxhd494 | ctmjr: thank you. it took a picture but it's so dark. i can't even make out my face |
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| 02:26.32 | bxhd494 | ctmjr: if i point the webcam at the lamp it will take a bright enough picture but i can't stick my head under the lamp shade everytime i want to get on video. lol |
| 02:31.24 | ctmjr | bxhd494: it has other controls you can play with fswebcam -list-controls then change them like -set brightness=100%, just tell everyone the lamp shade is a new hat |
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| 02:32.49 | ctmjr | do not know if you can set more than one try it and see what happens |
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| 02:35.25 | bxhd494 | lol ok. i tried setting the brightness at 75, 100 etc but it just washes out the picture instead of making the subject of the image and more visible |
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| 02:35.39 | bxhd494 | any* more |
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| 02:39.47 | ctmjr | it depends fswebcam -list-controls see what other options you have and tinker with them and the only other thing i can suggest is vlc see if the adjustments will stick |
| 02:40.41 | bxhd494 | thansk for your help i will play around with the various controls |
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| 02:42.53 | bxhd494 | looks like kernel 3.13 is in backports now. cool |
| 02:43.38 | needhalp | i'm finishing up an ssl certificate and it's asking me which hash algo to use |
| 02:44.07 | needhalp | do TLS latest versions in browsers support sga2 yet |
| 02:44.13 | needhalp | *sha2 |
| 02:44.52 | needhalp | it will be used with lighttpd |
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| 03:05.47 | weaktea | hey fellas, I think I deleted some files I wasn't supposed to (accidently) in my user's home folder, thought it wouldn't be a big deal but now the system boots into command line, and I have to startx from there, but a lot of stuff broke in the process. this is the output of apt-get install -f https://clbin.com/MfRkn .... and this is the output of dpkg |
| 03:05.47 | weaktea | --configure -a https://clbin.com/p3NsO |
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| 03:06.56 | weaktea | I may be approaching it the wrong way and there is a better way to fix the damage? |
| 03:07.24 | somiaj | weaktea: what files did you delete (i.e. in what directory)? |
| 03:07.28 | somiaj | weaktea: do you have backups? |
| 03:08.13 | weaktea | somiaj: no backups, nothing super important on the system anyway, but just easier than reinstalling everything. I don't remember specifically what I deleted, it was just an rm -r for some * expression and I had a bunch of log files on there I wanted to get rid of |
| 03:08.27 | weaktea | but I was too careless and some other stuff apparently got deleted. |
| 03:08.35 | abrotman | weaktea: which directory were you in when you ran that command ? |
| 03:08.42 | weaktea | abrotman: ~ |
| 03:08.45 | weaktea | for my user |
| 03:08.49 | weaktea | (not root) |
| 03:08.53 | abrotman | is skeptical |
| 03:09.04 | weaktea | meaning there shouldn't be anything in there that would cuase this? |
| 03:09.15 | weaktea | that's what I figured too, I mean, it should be just a home directory? mostly fluff right? |
| 03:09.22 | somiaj | I'm trying to figure out what these IptabLex and IptabLes services are |
| 03:09.26 | abrotman | unless you were compiling system binaries and running them from $HOME |
| 03:09.29 | weaktea | but I couldn't boot into desktop after restarting, and had to startx, it became a mess. samba stopped working |
| 03:09.52 | weaktea | abrotman: I never set out to do that, and doubt I would have unintentionally |
| 03:09.56 | weaktea | unless it's a common error |
| 03:10.01 | weaktea | kind of new to all this |
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| 03:10.34 | somiaj | looks like the service minissdpd is a part of the problem, but that is what most the errors are about. |
| 03:10.49 | weaktea | somiaj: ideas on a possible fix for that? |
| 03:11.12 | weaktea | cause apt-get and dpkg --configure -a are failing on me for anything I try to add or remove |
| 03:12.04 | abrotman | notes googling for iptablex isn't good |
| 03:13.10 | somiaj | weaktea: my random internet advice is reinstall. If you can't tell us what directory or command you ran and files you deleted who knows what you took out, best to just start from the begining. |
| 03:13.18 | somiaj | and I'm still wear of those scripts, they dont' seem legit to me |
| 03:14.08 | weaktea | somiaj: which scripts? |
| 03:14.34 | weaktea | and is there a log of deleted files from a system? maybe I can find out there? |
| 03:14.35 | somiaj | the two I mentioned and are geenrating all those warnings you pasted |
| 03:15.05 | weaktea | ah |
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| 03:15.50 | somiaj | and the one abrotman didn't like googling so I wasn't even gonna try |
| 03:16.15 | weaktea | somiaj: I guess a reinstall it is then... is there an easy way to do this from within debian? |
| 03:16.23 | somiaj | weaktea: you can type history to get a list of commands you have ran |
| 03:16.26 | weaktea | and preferentially over ssh |
| 03:16.59 | somiaj | weaktea: if you had another partition debootstrap would work, though you still have to be careful to make it bootable |
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| 03:17.18 | somiaj | the installer has an ssh server on it, but you need to be behind the machine long enough to load it up |
| 03:17.45 | abrotman | somiaj: you should, it's interesting |
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| 03:18.09 | abrotman | wouldn't trust any install done from inside that existing install |
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| 03:19.56 | weaktea | somiaj: brilliant idea, the history is long enough to show some of the rms I made, creating paste now |
| 03:20.21 | weaktea | https://clbin.com/xuBXm |
| 03:20.34 | weaktea | that being run from within ~ on my main user (not root) |
| 03:22.21 | somiaj | weaktea: Those scripts do seem bad. Reinstall |
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| 03:23.42 | weaktea | somiaj: so the rm's did mess it up? |
| 03:23.46 | weaktea | what was the bad delete? |
| 03:24.10 | abrotman | no, he means, iptablex seems like something malicious |
| 03:24.29 | somiaj | na I'm not worried about that, i didn't see anything dmanaging (though Id din't know what your cwd was), I think you have been comparmised and the file deleeting and reboot was just a coiencidence |
| 03:24.52 | weaktea | abrotman: oh... shit. You mean malicious, like virusy malicious? |
| 03:25.07 | somiaj | like someone may be using your machine as a drone right now. |
| 03:25.15 | abrotman | not now, it doesn't boot :) |
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| 03:26.06 | weaktea | well... dang. I suppose it's possible. I'm not really sec-savvy, but it could be some XBMC addon or osmething |
| 03:26.14 | weaktea | I guess I will reinstall |
| 03:26.17 | abrotman | or any number of things |
| 03:26.19 | weaktea | gotta find a CD burner somewhere |
| 03:26.29 | somiaj | weaktea: have a thumbdrive? |
| 03:26.42 | weaktea | somiaj: yea, but not sure if the bios of the HTPC supports usb boot |
| 03:26.46 | somiaj | weaktea: well one you don't mind putting an installer on deleting the data |
| 03:26.46 | weaktea | i'll try it though |
| 03:26.48 | somiaj | ahh |
| 03:27.05 | weaktea | thanks for the assistance though, fellas |
| 03:31.18 | somiaj | weaktea: do you run debian or ubuntu? |
| 03:31.59 | somiaj | just courious because the few blogs I read about servers with it were all older ubuntu servers. |
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| 03:55.58 | agumonkey | hi all |
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| 03:56.15 | eimis | agumonkey: hi |
| 03:56.26 | agumonkey | hi eimis |
| 03:56.55 | eimis | what's up? |
| 03:57.22 | agumonkey | I sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13-1-amd64 from unstable, and virtualbox-dkms fails to install now, is there an 'unstable' virtualbox-dkms package ? |
| 03:57.23 | agumonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.43 | abrotman | are you running unstable? |
| 03:58.08 | agumonkey | nope, linux mint debian edition, with this kernel to play nice with docker (according to some tuto) |
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| 03:58.24 | abrotman | agumonkey: then you should ask the Mint channel for support, this channel is for Debian support |
| 03:58.54 | agumonkey | Ok, I thought it was such a thin layer on top of debian... Apologies. |
| 03:58.57 | abrotman | agumonkey: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org .. good luck |
| 03:58.58 | agumonkey | thanks, see ya |
| 03:59.02 | abrotman | or maybe ##linux on freenode |
| 03:59.06 | agumonkey | thanks abrotman |
| 03:59.12 | abrotman | good luck |
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| 04:01.59 | modyn | agumonkey: you want to run virtualbox in virtualbox? |
| 04:03.00 | rjsalts | Can I run virtualbox in asm.js? |
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| 04:07.59 | b0t | Hello, i need help with this error... Did not receive a '200 OK' response from remote server. |
| 04:08.11 | wols | !tell b0t about errors |
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| 04:08.46 | b0t | i dont know |
| 04:09.10 | b0t | I not receive a response from my server debian |
| 04:09.14 | b0t | in the port 8080 |
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| 04:11.31 | b0t | I do not speak English, but if someone could help me explain |
| 04:11.46 | wols | what is your primary language? |
| 04:12.14 | b0t | spanish |
| 04:12.31 | wols | !es |
| 04:12.31 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 04:12.44 | wols | however at this time of day there aren't many people online there I guess |
| 04:12.56 | b0t | I have a website that will connect to my debian server are on different servers |
| 04:13.19 | b0t | they know nothing ... |
| 04:13.39 | wols | b0t: does your debian server have a public IP? |
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| 04:18.32 | b0t | yes wols |
| 04:18.56 | wols | b0t: what IP is it? tell us in the form of 123.123.123.x |
| 04:19.11 | wols | you can see the IP with when running /sbin/ifconfig on the debian server |
| 04:19.59 | b0t | see it |
| 04:20.00 | b0t | tcp 0 0 158.255.238.117:8080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 10071/atheme-servic |
| 04:22.22 | wols | and when you "wget 158.255.238.117:8080" ? |
| 04:24.22 | b0t | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK |
| 04:24.22 | b0t | Length: 177 [text/html] |
| 04:24.23 | b0t | Saving to: `index.html' |
| 04:24.23 | b0t | 100%[==============================================================================================================================>] 177 --.-K/s in 0s |
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| 04:24.35 | b0t | sorry wols |
| 04:24.44 | wols | your atheme-service thing is accessible just fine. it works. your problem seems to be on the client side |
| 04:24.44 | b0t | its ok the command |
| 04:25.20 | b0t | my php script? |
| 04:25.27 | b0t | in my other server? |
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| 04:27.10 | b0t | http://pastebin.com/prsatsje |
| 04:27.13 | azathoth99 | deb deb bo beb |
| 04:27.21 | azathoth99 | hows the debian folks? |
| 04:27.34 | azathoth99 | 1,490 wow this is a serious chat |
| 04:28.11 | wols | b0t: yes |
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| 04:44.02 | weaktea | now that I'm reinstalling, what would be the ideal image to install (through USB) for an internet connected HTPC? |
| 04:44.09 | weaktea | (as well as debian version)? |
| 04:44.17 | weaktea | I think I was running wheezy beforehand |
| 04:44.58 | q0 | so i had to install the firmware for intel iwlwifiblabla.deb, i did dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi and i still don't see any wireless ? |
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| 04:47.52 | q0 | restarts |
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| 04:54.59 | wols | weaktea: how is it connected? wlan or ethernet? |
| 04:55.06 | wols | weaktea: and what CPU with how much RAM? |
| 04:55.07 | weaktea | ethernet |
| 04:55.22 | weaktea | Will the tiny CD work for this? |
| 04:55.36 | wols | what cpu and how much ram? |
| 04:55.43 | weaktea | amd64 redirects me to some kind of directory structure but I'm not exactly sure what to do from then on |
| 04:55.46 | wols | and yes, the netinst image will work for this |
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| 04:56.33 | weaktea | wols: core i3, probably 4GB of RAM |
| 04:57.07 | weaktea | actually 8GB |
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| 04:57.31 | wols | https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst and there click on "small cds" "amd64". you immediately get an ISO |
| 04:57.52 | weaktea | wols: oh small CD, I thoguht tiny CD/usb sticks might work for this? |
| 04:58.02 | wols | weaktea: the "tiny cds" and the like is not for you. and the description there is misleading |
| 04:58.12 | weaktea | wols: I see, thanks |
| 04:58.19 | wols | weaktea: under what OS will you create your usb stick for installing? |
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| 04:58.27 | weaktea | wols: windows |
| 04:58.49 | wols | do you have a usb stick where you can lose all the data that is on it? maybe make a backup of your usb stick? |
| 04:58.59 | weaktea | wols: yup have one plugged in right now |
| 04:59.16 | wols | then use http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ for writing the image to it |
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| 04:59.53 | weaktea | wols: will do thanks |
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| 05:13.19 | Al3xG0 | I compiled vlc how to stop open as root it does not open what should I do? |
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| 05:14.45 | q0 | i installed chrome but dpkg says it depends on libcurl. Wtf ? Do i have to manually install each and every dependency ? |
| 05:15.13 | Wyzard | q0: no, apt takes care of installing dependencies automatically |
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| 05:15.51 | Wyzard | q0: How did you install Chrome? |
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| 05:16.51 | q0 | wget the .deb file and dpkg -i theFile |
| 05:17.40 | q0 | now i'm trying aptitude |
| 05:18.01 | Wyzard | Typically you'd use apt, which is a frontend for dpkg that downloads the necessary .deb files (including dependencies) for you |
| 05:18.18 | q0 | i have aptitude curses |
| 05:18.32 | j4e | dpkg -i chrome deb file |
| 05:18.32 | dpkg | installs chrome deb file into j4e's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 05:18.35 | Wyzard | That works, and there's also apt-get |
| 05:18.38 | j4e | apt-get -f install |
| 05:20.53 | q0 | lol i can't mark the chrome package in aptitude with + |
| 05:21.02 | q0 | isn't that how this works ? + and g |
| 05:21.39 | j4e | q0, do dpkg -i chome.deb then, apt-get -f install |
| 05:21.47 | Wyzard | Right, but in this case it's already installed so you can't tell aptitude to install it |
| 05:21.57 | Wyzard | "apt-get install -f" will install its missing dependencies |
| 05:22.08 | Wyzard | and in the future, use apt-get or aptitude to install things |
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| 05:26.03 | q0 | sorry if my newb questions are getting annoying but i did dpkg -i chrome.deb but then apt-get -f install asks to remove everything ? |
| 05:26.13 | q0 | and apt-get on it's own doesn't seem to find any package at all |
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| 05:27.18 | q0 | unlike ubuntu |
| 05:28.03 | Wyzard | What's in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 05:28.46 | q0 | deb cdrom |
| 05:28.49 | q0 | nothing else |
| 05:29.00 | Wyzard | OK, so you have no Internet sources |
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| 05:29.12 | Wyzard | I guess you installed from a CD/DVD, and apt only knows about the packages on that disc |
| 05:29.24 | q0 | now i understand... in the beginning i had no iwlwifi drivers and configuration also failed for package stuff |
| 05:29.37 | q0 | so how do i fix this now |
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| 05:30.19 | wols | q0: you always had the drivers just not the firmware. you install the iwlwifi package and reboot, that's all to fix it |
| 05:30.20 | q0 | i fixed |
| 05:30.37 | q0 | uncommenting some of those lines and doing an update worked i guess |
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| 05:31.13 | q0 | oops, it did not :D |
| 05:31.24 | q0 | ok reboot time then |
| 05:31.33 | Wyzard | Uncommenting the HTTP lines in sources.list and doing "apt-get update" should fix the problem of apt not knowing about most packages |
| 05:31.37 | Wyzard | There's no need to reboot |
| 05:31.56 | q0 | i see it included those repositories now, but there's no tab complete ? |
| 05:32.01 | q0 | for any package still |
| 05:32.02 | patrik_ | hi guys. I have been experiencing very odd behaviour from my friends laptop where I have installed debian. It stopped detecting hdd during the post although it used and it had detected it about 20 minutes before I installed debian couple a days ago. I am know that it has nothing to do with debian nor OS but where else I can go to get some proper help. Thanks |
| 05:32.35 | Wyzard | If you have the bash-completion package installed, it'll tab-complete package names for apt commands |
| 05:32.44 | Wyzard | Without it, bash itself only knows how to tab-complete filenames |
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| 05:34.05 | patrik_ | I have already rewrited whole device with zeros including master boot record as well as signature but no luck. Have removed battery for cmoss and a lot more. Bios updated to the latest version. |
| 05:35.06 | wols | if the hdd is not detected you cannot overwrite it with zeroes either. you contradict yourself. and the problem is more of a ##hardware one |
| 05:35.53 | q0 | it all looks good now, Thank you for your patience Wyzard |
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| 05:36.07 | patrik_ | Hdd is fine 'cause if i go to bios to ide configuration field it detects it very well with correct size and so on. |
| 05:36.11 | q0 | seems bash complete isn't enabled for root in 86_64 |
| 05:36.48 | patrik_ | wols: if i boot from live cd i can easily mount it and chroot to it too |
| 05:36.50 | Wyzard | q0: btw, you might want to take a look at the chromium package -- it's the open-source codebase that Chrome is based on, and it's in Debian's repository so you don't have to download the .deb manually |
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| 05:37.29 | wols | patrik_: then it is recognized in POST. you need to describe your problem properly if you expect help. what you wrote so far is not possible: either it is detected at POST or it is not. |
| 05:37.57 | wols | patrik_: maybe start with the actual error message(s) you encounter |
| 05:38.06 | LrdArc | hi, can I change my user id to 0 (root) ? => usermod -u 0 username => says UID '0' already exists |
| 05:38.24 | wols | LrdArc: you can, but this is a very very bad idea and very insecure |
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| 05:40.06 | LrdArc_ | sry was dc.. wols yea i know. it just for my school tasks |
| 05:40.23 | q0 | i hope the font rendering isnt as ugly in chromium |
| 05:40.41 | patrik_ | wols: well, it is not. no message saying literaly nothing about detecting hdd during the post. It detects CPU, amount of memory and then USB device, which is weird because no usb device is connected and I have also disabled usb interface in bios. it is asus laptop. |
| 05:40.59 | wols | !tell patrik_ about errors |
| 05:41.41 | LrdArc_ | !tell LrdArc_ about errors |
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| 05:42.59 | LrdArc_ | how can I change username id into 0?? |
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| 05:48.20 | nightfly | don't |
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| 05:50.20 | LrdArc_ | only for testing purpose |
| 05:50.29 | LrdArc_ | school task< |
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| 05:53.34 | sandman13 | my touchpad doesn't work sometimes |
| 05:55.51 | q0 | why does apt-get -f install tries to remove a skype.deb |
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| 05:56.31 | q0 | it doesn't fix the dependencies and there's no skype in repositories |
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| 06:02.31 | patrik_ | wols: i have taken some pictures where would be possbile or acceptable for you to paste it ? |
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| 06:03.50 | b0t | Hi I have a problem with my xmlrpc, someone help me? I think I need a client |
| 06:03.59 | b0t | http://158.255.238.117:8080/xmlrpc |
| 06:04.22 | patrik_ | wols: the message after the post says reboot and select proper boot device. Or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key . |
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| 06:04.39 | b0t | wols Hello return |
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| 06:05.24 | patrik_ | wols: but the only boot device in bios configuration is hdd any other are disabled for now. |
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| 06:05.56 | du | Hi, how can I have "lsyncd /etc/lsyncd.lua" run after the system boots? |
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| 06:06.11 | du | i've tried adding it to /etc/rc.local |
| 06:07.03 | du | and I've tried update-rc.d too |
| 06:07.07 | du | running Wheezy |
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| 06:08.36 | wols | patrik_: is a bootloader like grub installed? |
| 06:08.56 | patrik_ | wols: yes it is. |
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| 06:09.33 | patrik_ | wols: now i am uploading some pics i have taken from bios to let you see how it behaves. |
| 06:10.12 | patrik_ | wols: i can also boot to rescue mode and show you how grub is installed and it is correctly configured. |
| 06:11.50 | wols | if there is a bootloader then you have a BIOS or a hardware problem. not a debian problem |
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| 06:12.11 | patrik_ | wols: this is the screenshot from bios how it detects ide devices: http://i57.tinypic.com/okcqom.jpg |
| 06:13.53 | patrik_ | wols: As I wrote earlier I know that it is not related to debian neither to OS generaly. But hdd is recognized well in os environmnet, accessible, mountable and readible :) |
| 06:16.02 | patrik_ | wols: and here is the screenshot after entering first device in the previous picture: http://i60.tinypic.com/4khan5.jpg |
| 06:17.18 | patrik_ | wols: once i save it and after reboot i am back where i was and over and over again. cmos battery is fine 'cause all other settings survive the reboot. |
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| 08:34.26 | nkuttler | davi: i think ls just uses defaults.. or is that var set in your env? |
| 08:34.51 | davi | it is set |
| 08:35.05 | davi | echo $LS_COLORS |
| 08:35.06 | davi | rs=0:di=01;34:ln=01;36:mh=00:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:b... |
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| 08:35.26 | davi | Debian wheezy standard, not customised. |
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| 08:36.31 | nkuttler | davi: interesting.. anyway, if you want to override the value you should edit something in your home dir, like ~/.bashrc |
| 08:36.40 | nkuttler | and not some system file |
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| 08:37.04 | davi | ok, thanks nkuttler |
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| 08:45.33 | vixxo | hi guys, I'm following this guide http://www.linux.it/~malattia/wiki/index.php/Vaio_Pro_11 at a certain point It says "Use this kernel config and build. " how do I have to use that config file ? |
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| 09:01.22 | jpinx | I've plugged in a generic usb sound card so that I can record from an old cassette player. Dmesg is here - http://paste.debian.net/95972/ and there is no sound. I have alsaixer opn and seleted he usb sound card offered in the menu and ramped all the volumes up, checked connections and tried variations. Any clues anyone ? |
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| 09:13.23 | SynrG | jpinx: let's see the output of amixer |
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| 09:19.02 | jpinx | SynrG: http://paste.debian.net/95973/ |
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| 09:20.24 | SynrG | jpinx: do you have multiple sound cards on this system now? what's in /proc/asound/cards? |
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| 09:22.57 | jpinx | SynrG: the eeepc internal card and this usb on which supposedly allows me to record from "pones out" on my old cassette player |
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| 09:23.26 | SynrG | yeah. but you're sure the usb is selected? |
| 09:23.46 | jpinx | alsamixer had a menu option that allowed me to select it |
| 09:23.54 | jpinx | F6 |
| 09:24.06 | SynrG | but that allows you to change the levels on the card. it doesn't necessarily select it for output |
| 09:24.53 | SynrG | !default alsa |
| 09:24.53 | dpkg | Use the /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc configuration files to set your default sound card. See http://web.archive.org/web/20120229040333/http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ026 for more information. |
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| 09:26.10 | jpinx | SynrG: http://paste.debian.net/95974/ |
| 09:27.12 | SynrG | jpinx: nopaste /proc/asound/cards |
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| 09:27.50 | SynrG | it's a file, not a directory |
| 09:28.13 | jpinx | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-2-FEjLtMs7.png |
| 09:28.21 | jpinx | SynrG: permission denied |
| 09:28.26 | jpinx | as root..... |
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| 09:29.11 | SynrG | jpinx: er? no ... |
| 09:29.16 | SynrG | jpinx: cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 09:29.26 | SynrG | you don't even need to be root for this to work |
| 09:29.48 | jpinx | http://paste.debian.net/95975/ |
| 09:30.07 | jpinx | swears it's the heat here.... |
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| 09:30.13 | SynrG | good. so ... |
| 09:30.39 | SynrG | amixer -c1 shows all the levels (i.e. screenshot not necessary :) but your screenshot shows the levels are ok ... |
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| 09:31.53 | SynrG | aplay -L and arecord -L shows you the names you would need to use in ~/.asoundrc |
| 09:32.17 | SynrG | and the factoid i brought up links to instructions for making the USB device the default |
| 09:33.08 | jpinx | SynrG: thanks -- I didn't realis is would not be PnP :( Now I'll do it the long way ;) |
| 09:33.35 | SynrG | well, if you had pulseaudio it might be |
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| 09:35.38 | SynrG | well, off to prep the coffee :) |
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| 09:36.31 | jpinx | Thanks SynrG -- I'm looking at pulseaudio too ;) |
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| 09:44.08 | SynrG | jpinx: i was never able to make eeepc-acpi-scripts play nicely with it though |
| 09:44.14 | SynrG | i mean, on lxde |
| 09:44.35 | SynrG | probably ok if you just skip all the channels and let gnome handle it |
| 09:45.14 | SynrG | (that is, tell eeepc-acpi-scripts to not manage the mixer keys) |
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| 09:47.28 | Blakney | I'd like to set the mobile broadband connection to "only umts". In the network manager there is the option 3G with only umts/hspa or preferred 3G. Could someone maybe point in the right direction? I found "at_opsys=1,2" on a description with kppp but I do not have kppp... |
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| 09:48.37 | trever | hai, how can i check which packages are referenced as build-dep, without actually installing them? |
| 09:48.55 | nullA_ | Blakney: what make/model 'modem' are you using ? |
| 09:49.10 | SynrG | trever: apt-cache showsrc packagename |
| 09:49.27 | Blakney | nullA_ zte |
| 09:49.46 | nullA_ | cna u be more specific ? |
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| 09:51.42 | Blakney | nullA_ k3565 |
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| 09:53.50 | nullA_ | thats ok, ytou can do it by terminal .. |
| 09:53.58 | nullA_ | its pseudo at cmd .. |
| 09:54.04 | nullA_ | hmm.. let me see .. |
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| 09:56.25 | nullA_ | so you find the device |
| 09:56.30 | nullA_ | /dev/whatever |
| 09:56.50 | Tasab | good mrng all , i cn't monitoring & amount the hard disk , debian wheezy , can U help pls , thanks |
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| 09:57.48 | Blakney | nullA_ yes, I got that |
| 09:58.04 | trever | SynrG: thx |
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| 10:00.37 | do0fY | hi all |
| 10:00.51 | do0fY | need some help getting started with WOL. Can someone help? |
| 10:01.57 | nullA_ | so you need to connect using dialing shell / serial term |
| 10:02.06 | nullA_ | to thaqt device |
| 10:02.19 | SynrG | !wol |
| 10:02.19 | dpkg | Wake-on-LAN (WOL) is a method of powering on a computer remotely through the use of a "magic" packet. See http://wiki.debian.org/WakeOnLan for more information. WOL utilities packaged for Debian include etherwake and wakeonlan. Online WOL services include http://stephan.mestrona.net/wol/ and http://www.rshut.com/products/wol/mobile |
| 10:02.23 | nullA_ | setting baud etc as necessary |
| 10:02.24 | nullA_ | pick a high mnumber .. |
| 10:02.37 | nullA_ | i think utms is 2,2 |
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| 10:02.44 | nullA_ | but i cant veryify that |
| 10:02.49 | do0fY | i haveto say, that i use openmediavault |
| 10:02.54 | do0fY | is that the same? |
| 10:03.05 | nullA_ | where did you get 1,2 from ? |
| 10:03.20 | do0fY | nullA,a re you talking to me? |
| 10:03.24 | nullA_ | nope |
| 10:03.27 | do0fY | k |
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| 10:05.49 | Blakney | nullA_ I found it on this page: http://www.trans-action.homelinux.net/vodafone_3G.html |
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| 10:10.07 | Tasab | wols, how R U this morning, the HD disk can't be seen and monitoring , o/s debian wheezy , can u hlp pls |
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| 10:24.25 | wols | !tell Tasab about errors |
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| 10:29.36 | Penix | wenas |
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| 10:41.20 | nullA_ | Blakney: looks good to me .. |
| 10:43.25 | Blakney | nullA_ Is there a way to achieve this by changing network manager or ppp settings? |
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| 10:52.28 | martin-_-_ | hi there |
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| 10:55.16 | lesta | after upgrading to 7.5 I get an error when I type the root password: Segmentation fault |
| 10:55.28 | lesta | any idea? |
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| 10:57.39 | hegemoOn | hello |
| 10:57.53 | hegemoOn | is it still possible to find a ftp mirror for 5.0 debian ? |
| 10:58.10 | hegemoOn | im trying a netinstall and it blocks because unable to find mirror |
| 10:58.13 | hegemoOn | with package |
| 10:58.53 | Penix | any particular reason why you want lenny? |
| 10:59.01 | hegemoOn | yes |
| 10:59.12 | hegemoOn | im virtualising an existing server |
| 10:59.36 | hegemoOn | my client run an old lenny with a specific apache/tomcat/postgresql versions |
| 10:59.45 | Penix | hegemoOn: tried archive.debian.org? |
| 10:59.49 | hegemoOn | and want to switch from physical server to a virtual machine |
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| 11:00.02 | hegemoOn | so im building a 5.0 VM |
| 11:00.09 | hegemoOn | and i will migrate his application on it |
| 11:00.27 | hegemoOn | because im not sure tomcat will run on latest version |
| 11:00.31 | hegemoOn | its tomcat from 2006 |
| 11:00.33 | Penix | ok. would highly recommend migrating to a newer release, but, in the meantime, try the archive mirror |
| 11:00.37 | hegemoOn | and i need postgres 7.4 also |
| 11:00.43 | abrotman | hegemoOn: stop with the enter key |
| 11:00.52 | abrotman | hegemoOn: archive.debian.org .. there are instructions there |
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| 11:00.59 | hegemoOn | thank you Penix and abrotman |
| 11:01.41 | SynrG | hegemoOn: i hope this system is 100% not exposed to the internet :p |
| 11:02.00 | abrotman | or even 10% :) |
| 11:02.22 | SynrG | heh |
| 11:02.24 | hegemoOn | well |
| 11:02.33 | hegemoOn | iptable makes the work:) |
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| 11:02.58 | abrotman | cringes |
| 11:03.08 | hegemoOn | but security is also part of the problem |
| 11:03.14 | abrotman | no kidding .. |
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| 11:05.36 | Tasab | wols, sori been away just came back , look to this pls on the left corner as marked no any sda issues , the link is http://minus.com/lvg8hDTH6eeA1 |
| 11:06.10 | nullA_ | Blakney: i dont think so, you wan tthe setting to persist ? |
| 11:08.16 | Blakney | nullA_ I'm just trying to figure out how to set only umts or only hspa for a connection |
| 11:09.56 | nullA_ | so you do it direct to the device by issuing at command thru terminal connection something likke at opsys=1,2 |
| 11:10.06 | nullA_ | 'at opsys=1,2' |
| 11:10.16 | nullA_ | i have 2,2 but whatever works .. |
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| 11:10.48 | Blakney | nullA_ ok, thx |
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| 11:11.03 | nullA_ | so first fire up a minicom or similar and connect to /dev/whatever_your_device_is_here |
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| 11:11.49 | Blakney | at_opsys=1,2 |
| 11:11.54 | rook2pawn | how do i download a deb https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/firmware-iwlwifi so i can copy it to usb ? |
| 11:12.17 | abrotman | rook2pawn: wget? browser? |
| 11:12.17 | nullA_ | Blakney: maybe , |
| 11:12.28 | rook2pawn | whats the address? |
| 11:12.33 | nullA_ | should be 'at opsys=1,2' |
| 11:12.50 | nullA_ | try 'at s0' first |
| 11:12.52 | abrotman | rook2pawn: look at teh bottom of the page, there's a link to download |
| 11:12.54 | nullA_ | see what you get back |
| 11:13.08 | Blakney | nullA_ without _ it gives me "command not found" |
| 11:13.21 | nullA_ | huh , ok |
| 11:13.25 | nullA_ | whatever works |
| 11:13.31 | rook2pawn | abrotman: ah, thanks! |
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| 11:14.06 | nullA_ | Blakney : its not genuine at so .. thats for the old hayes modenms back in't day |
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| 11:15.05 | nullA_ | Blakney: try at_s0 |
| 11:15.23 | nullA_ | that should return settings page 0 |
| 11:15.25 | sandman13 | since I have installed Debian 7 I am experiencing some weird situations, don't know whether this is the fault of Desktop Envrionemnt or the OS itself or mine |
| 11:15.34 | Blakney | nullA_ at_s0=1,2 or simply at_s0? |
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| 11:16.13 | sandman13 | for e.g. sometimes KDE doesn't boot properly, Dbus fails, sometimes touchpad doesn't work |
| 11:16.37 | nullA_ | never mind just do a 'at_opsys=1,2' and try that |
| 11:16.46 | sandman13 | connecting laptop to projector freezes the screen |
| 11:17.06 | nullA_ | the s0 is jsyt to check the connection is working .. |
| 11:17.15 | nullA_ | you should get a 'OK' back |
| 11:17.17 | Blakney | nullA_ at_s0 - command not found. However at_opsys is accepted. I'm gonna try this out, thx. |
| 11:17.28 | nullA_ | cool .. goo dluck |
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| 11:27.59 | hegemoOn | Linux debian 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Mar 4 21:48:06 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:28.03 | hegemoOn | w00T :) |
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| 11:29.12 | pinumbernumber | Okay, I feel quite dumb asking this, but... what ISO should I use to install debian testing? Not netinst, since my connection is intermittent. |
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| 11:31.30 | abrotman | pinumbernumber: wheezy, then dist-upgrade to jessie |
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| 11:32.41 | pinumbernumber | okay. Do I want the CD or DVD release? |
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| 11:33.23 | Penix | not really |
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| 11:33.43 | Penix | ah, wheezy |
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| 11:33.54 | Penix | pinumbernumber: cd |
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| 11:34.09 | pinumbernumber | what is it missing from dvd? |
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| 11:34.25 | abrotman | pinumbernumber: use the netinst |
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| 11:34.52 | pinumbernumber | abrotman: My connection is intermittent, so I'd rather not |
| 11:35.01 | abrotman | intermittent? |
| 11:35.11 | pinumbernumber | meaning it's good just now, but I can't guarantee it will be when I'm installing it |
| 11:35.12 | Penix | 'shitty' |
| 11:35.39 | abrotman | so, you're going to be installing stable from a DVD, then dist-upgrading to jessie, and then maintaining an ever-changing version of Debian (until its release in a year or so) using a crappy internet connection ? |
| 11:35.55 | abrotman | The netinst is still the right answer |
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| 11:36.37 | pinumbernumber | also, I'll likely be doing several VM installs so it makes more sense to download as much as possible up front and as little as possible as updates |
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| 11:36.55 | abrotman | but you're not, youre downloading stable, not jessie |
| 11:36.56 | sandman13 | why this error: http://imgur.com/YNoSSkw ? I have tried installing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics but it says it's already installed |
| 11:37.36 | abrotman | dpkg: tell pinumbernumber about testing installer |
| 11:37.50 | Penix | sandman13: are you using the synaptics driver? |
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| 11:38.28 | wols | sandman13: I suggest you run lsusb and check what touchpad it is, and what the drivers there are if any |
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| 11:39.48 | pinumbernumber | also the download page urges me to get only the first CD unless I want something on the others, but doesn't tell me what's on the others... |
| 11:40.23 | abrotman | hence using the netinst |
| 11:40.42 | sandman13 | Penix: yes |
| 11:40.58 | pinumbernumber | I might be installing in several VMs. It really feels wasteful doing multiple netinsts |
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| 11:41.33 | pinumbernumber | can anyone guesstimate the download size required to update http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent to current testing? |
| 11:41.35 | wols | pinumbernumber: then use something like apt-proxy |
| 11:42.03 | wols | pinumbernumber: that is pointless since you will never use the full content of this CD |
| 11:42.13 | Penix | pinumbernumber: look at the size of the iso image on the mirror |
| 11:42.20 | wols | !tell pinumbernumber about cd content |
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| 11:44.01 | pinumbernumber | okay sounds like it will be simpler to use the netinst and just suck up the repeated downloads. |
| 11:44.13 | abrotman | use a proxy ... |
| 11:44.17 | Penix | pinumbernumber: not really |
| 11:44.24 | LrdArc | hi! how can I enable image preview on ranger file manager? I've installed w3m but still the preview didn't show. |
| 11:44.43 | Penix | pinumbernumber: netinst certainly is the best option, but the first cd image contains most of the stuff you're going to need |
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| 11:45.07 | sandman13 | wols: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7344499/ sorry i had to use ubuntu's my ip is blocked from paste.debian.net |
| 11:45.33 | sandman13 | wols: i think there is no any touchpad drivers installed |
| 11:45.55 | pinumbernumber | Penix: So if I grab http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent and install it on several machines/VMs, and update them all to testing, less data will be used overall than than the netinst. Correct? |
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| 11:46.51 | Penix | pinumbernumber: not really. it'll all end up being about the same. you're just downloading everything upfront instead of bits and pieces later on |
| 11:46.52 | wols | pinumbernumber: incorrect |
| 11:47.24 | wols | pinumbernumber: when he uses testing, then he will download more with the full CD ISO, notable ISO minus the size of netinst more |
| 11:47.41 | abrotman | pinumbernumber: use the netinst, and a caching proxy like approx |
| 11:47.50 | wols | pinumbernumber: to install testing, you install with netinst a minimal debian and then dist-upgrade to testing |
| 11:47.51 | abrotman | it will be sooo much easier in the long run |
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| 11:48.14 | wols | and yes, the best way to do this is to use a caching proxy like abrotman and me suggested |
| 11:48.14 | ovidiu-florin | hello world |
| 11:48.42 | wols | pinumbernumber: netinst + caching proxy is the least amount of downloads you can do |
| 11:48.54 | pinumbernumber | ...so now I need to learn how to set up a caching proxy behind VMs |
| 11:49.23 | wols | pinumbernumber: run one VM with the proxy in bridged mode. what VM software is it? |
| 11:49.37 | pinumbernumber | VMWare workstation |
| 11:49.49 | pinumbernumber | on a Windows host |
| 11:49.56 | ovidiu-florin | I have the issue describes here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/02/msg00026.html on the latest netinst iso. Previous installs worked just fine from the exact same USB flash drive. I'm not sure I unserstand what the solution is. Please help. |
| 11:50.05 | abrotman | pinumbernumber: use one o fyour VMs to install approx, it's pretty simple |
| 11:50.10 | wols | then just use bridged mode there, then all your other VMs can access it, it's a simple setting in the GUI of VMWare |
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| 11:50.23 | remmaps | UK Company which pays 2% daily. |
| 11:50.23 | remmaps | Check it out: |
| 11:50.23 | remmaps | https://www.laxotrade.com/?ref=gorbachev |
| 11:50.47 | sandman13 | wols: any suggestions? |
| 11:51.05 | forcer | I'm trying to find packages that are recommended by currently installed packages, but are not installed themselves. aptitude search '~Rrecommends:~i!~i' seems to do that. But when I try to find out which package depends on one in that list using aptitude search '~Drecommends:xmail', I get an empty list. I suspect I'm using aptitude wrong, can someone fix my search patterns? :-) |
| 11:51.14 | wols | sandman13: I don't see any touchpad there tbh. check your Xorg.0.log what Xorg recognizes |
| 11:51.17 | pinumbernumber | okay well thanks guys. |
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| 11:52.33 | wols | ovidiu-florin: are you Bob Proulx? this link talks about booting over the network but not about usb drives |
| 11:52.56 | wols | ovidiu-florin: and it's from 2012, not current meaning it relates to squeeze not wheezy |
| 11:54.11 | ovidiu-florin | wols: I'm not Bob. But my problem is exactly the same as Chris Hiestand's |
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| 11:54.33 | sandman13 | wols: no sign of touchpad but I have multiple lines quoting "No input driver specified, ignoring this device" |
| 11:55.01 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: What do you refer to by the "latest netinst iso" ? |
| 11:55.05 | ShalokShalom | Why use the debian server .iso the same kernel settings like the desktop .iso, please ? |
| 11:55.15 | wols | ovidiu-florin: since you don't run a 6.0.3 and 6.0.4 mix I doubt that |
| 11:55.18 | ovidiu-florin | debian 7.4.0 netinst |
| 11:55.52 | abrotman | ShalokShalom: it's up to the Admin to customize if they think such things are needed |
| 11:56.01 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: That's not the latest and we typically refer to the PXE install onces as "netinstall" rather than "netinst" (which is the 'normal' installer that will download everything from the internet) |
| 11:56.13 | wols | ShalokShalom: there are no debian server/desktop ISOs. and the debian kernel is always the same in settings and only differs for what CPU it is compiled |
| 11:56.14 | ShalokShalom | abrotman: of course ? |
| 11:56.18 | ovidiu-florin | I'm attempting a regular install using http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 11:56.22 | abrotman | ShalokShalom: yes |
| 11:56.31 | ShalokShalom | wols: i know, that is not my question. |
| 11:56.41 | ShalokShalom | I ask why and not if ? |
| 11:56.48 | abrotman | I already told you |
| 11:56.50 | ShalokShalom | o.O |
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| 11:57.08 | ShalokShalom | i mean, for which technical reasons |
| 11:57.11 | Tasab | wols, any luck , did you see the link |
| 11:57.33 | _spm_Draget | I am about to install maven on a wheezy system. Among the many many deps, there are also things like gcj-4.7-base{a} gcj-4.7-jre-lib{a} - is this really nessecary or can I get rid of those deps somehow? |
| 11:57.39 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: And the outlined steps will simply update the netinst data to their latest versions |
| 11:57.53 | abrotman | ShalokShalom: I already told you why. Debian is not a hand-holding distro, the Admin is expected to customize as needed. If this is too difficult for you, perhaps try another distro more suited toward less technical users. |
| 11:58.00 | wols | Tasab: and I don't know. I'd suggest you make sure the hdd is mounted and then ask about this particular filemanager somewhere |
| 11:58.48 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: so I guess durring the installation I need to go to a different tty and download & extract those in debian-installer/amd64? |
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| 11:59.11 | ovidiu-florin | but still my scenario is not the same. I just have the same problem. |
| 11:59.13 | ShalokShalom | abrotman: oh thanks, i mix admin with maintainer, my mistake. |
| 11:59.35 | ShalokShalom | i think you mean the maintainer(s) of the .iso |
| 11:59.40 | sandman13 | just got disconnected because Konversation crashed *sighs* |
| 11:59.41 | abrotman | no, I don't |
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| 11:59.58 | abrotman | ShalokShalom: if you're getting a confusing answer, try to rephrase your question |
| 12:00.09 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: You shouldn't have to update your data on the tftp server at all if you have the latest already. What I would, however, recommend is to use the 7.5 version. |
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| 12:01.04 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: I installed using this iso, on this computer many times before. I don't understand why now it doesn't work anymore. |
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| 12:01.29 | bnnk | quick question, should I user root to install everything or should I setup my username into the sudo group? which is safer and why? |
| 12:01.40 | abrotman | bnnk: personal preference |
| 12:01.47 | abrotman | especially on a single user system |
| 12:02.24 | bnnk | single user yea and laerning |
| 12:02.31 | abrotman | then learn both ways :) |
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| 12:02.50 | bnnk | well I have used root all the time |
| 12:03.00 | bnnk | but someone told me that its safer to make my account a sudo |
| 12:03.11 | bnnk | which I Did not understand, would that not me a root as well? |
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| 12:03.12 | bnnk | admin |
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| 12:03.26 | abrotman | depends how you configure sudo |
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| 12:04.54 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: Could you provide more information about the way you setup your PXE netboot environment? |
| 12:05.09 | babilen | (are you actually booting via PXE?) |
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| 12:07.17 | ovidiu-florin | I have the upper mentioned iso (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso) on a flashdrive with GRUB2 on it. I boot from that and start the debian installer. I select my locale, setup my network. choose a mirror, and when the partitioner is about to start I receive this error: !! ERROR: Logical Volume Manager not available \n The current kernel doesn't support the Logical Volume Manager. You may need to load |
| 12:07.18 | ovidiu-florin | the lvm-mod module. |
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| 12:07.42 | ovidiu-florin | if I try to open tty2 and load that module (using modprobe) , it says that the module does not exist |
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| 12:08.47 | wols | ovidiu-florin: how did you create your usb stick, cause normally there is no grub2 there |
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| 12:09.01 | bnnk | Okay last question, what is the sudo terminal command to remove myself from a given group? |
| 12:09.24 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: Okay. You linked to a post discussing problems in a PXE netboot environment rather than describing your actual issue. Mind trying the latest installer version? If the post you linked has *anything* to do with your symptoms than it might be that the udebs are out of sync too. |
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| 12:09.34 | ovidiu-florin | wols: since previous installs have worked from this, and I have not changed the USB stick, I don't think that's the problem. |
| 12:09.53 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: Well, there was a new point release in the interim. |
| 12:10.02 | wols | ovidiu-florin: it is. it's not a debian installer but something YOU hacked together or some 3rd party tool you used like unetbootin |
| 12:10.21 | ShalokShalom | sandman13: do we know each other from SolusOS ? :) |
| 12:10.38 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: the only similarity between my problem and that post is the error message. |
| 12:10.40 | sandman13 | ShalokShalom: nope i haven't used SolusOS |
| 12:10.43 | ShalokShalom | sandman13: Quassel gets much more Commits than, Konversation. |
| 12:10.55 | wols | ovidiu-florin: the module you'd need would probably be in the initrd, but sinec you played around with the bootloader which loads that, it could very well be missing for example |
| 12:10.55 | ShalokShalom | sandman13: oh, so it was another sandman. :) |
| 12:11.21 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: if there was a new point release shouldn't it be available here: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 12:11.23 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: You should have simply given us the error message then. Does the current installer behave differently? |
| 12:11.24 | ovidiu-florin | ? |
| 12:11.25 | sandman13 | ShalokShalom: probably 'sandman' only my nick is 'sandman13' |
| 12:11.36 | ShalokShalom | mhn |
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| 12:12.16 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: Yes, it was released yesterday though -- one second please |
| 12:12.22 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: I used this iso for previous installs just fine. wols it's not the bootloader. |
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| 12:12.36 | wols | ovidiu-florin: how did you create this usb stick? |
| 12:13.11 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: Sure, but you might download additional components during the install and get a different version. I am not yet sure what causes the problem at all, but testing the current installer version would give us additional information about your problem. |
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| 12:13.14 | sandman13 | is there a reason why my desktop freezes whenever I connect it to a projector? |
| 12:13.43 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: by current you mean 7.4.0 or 7.4.1? |
| 12:14.35 | ovidiu-florin | wols: formated it as fat32. Set boot flag. Create a dir with isos (I have 4-5 isos on this USB stick). Run Grub install and force it to install to the flash drive. Write the grub.cfg by hand using info from the isos boot process. |
| 12:14.38 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: No, 7.5 -- https://www.debian.org/News/2014/20140426 -- but the images don't seem to be available yet |
| 12:14.49 | ovidiu-florin | oh |
| 12:14.58 | ovidiu-florin | then congratulations on the new release :D |
| 12:15.12 | babilen | Lets start from the beginning with your actual error message and forget about your false lead with that post for now |
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| 12:15.20 | ovidiu-florin | ok |
| 12:15.28 | babilen | dpkg: tell ovidiu-florin -about point releases |
| 12:16.26 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: so I can do this on the current "live" debian from within the installer? |
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| 12:19.42 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: so I guess I'm using an older iso that tries to install with newer packages. and those things don't get well together. |
| 12:19.51 | ovidiu-florin | So I just have to wait for the new isos |
| 12:20.00 | ovidiu-florin | any ideea when they will be available? |
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| 12:20.43 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: "soon" (I would have expected them to be available already) -- also try a more standard way of creating the boot image by simply copying the iso to your stick as detailed in "/msg dpkg usb install" |
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| 12:22.39 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: thank you |
| 12:23.06 | Kiryx | Hello, how is this output from "df" possible (last line) http://pastebin.com/x5VZfcrz |
| 12:23.11 | ovidiu-florin | by doing the usb stick the standard way I'm limited to wasting a 4GB stick on just one ISO |
| 12:23.30 | ovidiu-florin | but thank you anyhow babilen |
| 12:23.48 | Kiryx | I have only ~800mb left while Size - Used suggests a larger amount |
| 12:24.46 | abrotman | Kiryx: you have some large file still open |
| 12:25.00 | abrotman | Kiryx: also, root gets 5% reserved |
| 12:25.31 | Kiryx | but root is under / |
| 12:25.40 | Kiryx | i have /home in a separate partition |
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| 12:25.58 | abrotman | root user ... |
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| 12:26.59 | Kiryx | I think your first suggestion is right |
| 12:27.16 | Kiryx | I had few movies opened in vlc, while I removed the files |
| 12:27.36 | Kiryx | I closed vlc but I did not regain the space |
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| 12:28.34 | abrotman | time to learn du and see where things are |
| 12:28.41 | abrotman | also , 'sync' |
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| 12:32.53 | Marenz | I thought I could reorder/move partitions in parted just like I can in gparted, but it seems I can't. Any cmdline tool that can do that? |
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| 12:46.55 | Kiryx | I think the problem may be with unlinked files occupying space |
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| 12:47.12 | Kiryx | so "du" won't show anything up |
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| 12:47.57 | petn-randall | Kiryx: use ncdu, it has a nice ncurses frontend with which you can browser the filesystem. Unlinked files don't occupy space unless they still have open file descriptors. |
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| 12:49.32 | Kiryx | wheeze x64 does not have it |
| 12:49.51 | Kiryx | should lsof +L1 (list of open files with less than 1 link) be empty ? |
| 12:49.59 | naptastic | I'm trying to fix a missing dependency. I'm using Jessie, and libt1-5 is not available right now. It's in Squeeze, Wheezy, and Sid. What's the best way to get it onto my system? |
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| 12:52.03 | naptastic | Well that was fun. Note to self: Double-check which machine you're logged into, before running shutdown -r now. |
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| 12:53.27 | SynrG | naptastic: first, jessie is supported on #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
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| 12:53.45 | naptastic | SynrG, Thanks :-) |
| 12:53.59 | SynrG | second ... well, we will continue the conversation there :) |
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| 13:05.25 | Kiryx | can I manually invoke fsck on next reboot ? |
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| 13:07.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell Kiryx about forcefsck |
| 13:08.34 | Kiryx | babilen: Great, thanks1 |
| 13:08.37 | Kiryx | ! |
| 13:08.52 | babilen | yw |
| 13:08.53 | joj | Hello all. I am about to remove udisks and udisks2 from my system -- I investigated the dependencies and nothing indicates that they are needed at boot time (in conjunction with udev, for example). Can somebody argue otherwise? |
| 13:10.44 | babilen | joj: Seems to be a dependency of gvfs, but sure .. remove it if *you* don't use it (or rather anything that depends on it) |
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| 13:11.36 | joj | babilen: I am aware of that, I certainly don't use it. OK, then it'll get purged... |
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| 13:16.41 | Quibus | hi all |
| 13:16.56 | Quibus | Do you guys perhaps know an IRC channel to discuss legal issues regarding Debian? |
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| 13:18.03 | MrFrood | Quibus: the same people will be answering you here as #debian-next, try not to cross post |
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| 13:19.06 | Quibus | MrFrood: OK |
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| 13:19.34 | Quibus | MrFrood: but there's 1550 here and only 252 in next :-) |
| 13:19.48 | modyn | hi how do i move files in folder "ls" to /var/www? |
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| 13:20.42 | MrFrood | Quibus: true but it's mostly the same people that answer the questions, espically one as specific as yours |
| 13:21.37 | abrotman | Quibus: there's a mailing list |
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| 13:22.07 | MrFrood | modyn: check out the man pages for cp and mv - if you still have questions after that feel free to ask again |
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| 13:25.32 | fishsponge | hello! I have 318000 files in different folders to delete and they're all on a 2-disk RAID-1 array... it it quicker to run ONE "rm" command, or is it quicker to run TWO "rm" commands? or quicker to run THREE "rm" commands? Basically, which is the quickest way to delete so many files?? How many "rm" commands should I run simultaneously?? |
| 13:26.34 | abrotman | Does it need to be quick ? |
| 13:27.03 | fishsponge | yes... it does... |
| 13:27.05 | fishsponge | i'm currently running a single command: "rm -rf ./*" - but how many more commands should I run to make it quicker?? two? three? four? 10? |
| 13:27.13 | naptastic | fishsponge, One. |
| 13:27.25 | naptastic | fishsponge, adding more jobs will just make them contend with each other. |
| 13:27.32 | wols | the fastest way woult be mkfs.ext4 on the system instead |
| 13:27.37 | wols | *would |
| 13:27.40 | naptastic | or that! :D |
| 13:28.02 | fishsponge | naptastic, because I have folders a, b, c and d for example, i could run a command to delete each of them simultaneously... but are you saying it's quicker to just run one "rm" command by itself? |
| 13:28.25 | naptastic | fishsponge, you just want to only have one 'rm' command going at a time. |
| 13:28.30 | wols | fishsponge: most likely you are I/O limited. there it doesn't help you to run several processes |
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| 13:28.34 | naptastic | Don't run more than one simultaneously. |
| 13:28.50 | fishsponge | naptastic, so if I run a single "rm" command it will be quicker than if I run two "rm" commands - correct? |
| 13:28.58 | naptastic | yes |
| 13:29.18 | fishsponge | naptastic, thank you... still waiting - it's taking ages and I need it done! argh!!! :-) |
| 13:29.19 | babilen | If the data is on the same filesystem/medium |
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| 13:29.53 | fishsponge | wols, if I do "mkfs.ext4" would it not erase everything and reformat it? |
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| 13:30.59 | wols | fishsponge: yes |
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| 13:31.30 | fishsponge | wols, I can't do that because I need to keep the other existing files on there... |
| 13:32.46 | wols | fishsponge: if it's a NAS, do it locally not across the network, ie. ssh on to the NAS and rm it in its shell |
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| 13:41.50 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: is there anything I can do to speed up the process to get the new isos? |
| 13:42.26 | vol4ko | moving to another town bb later for 5 hours |
| 13:42.34 | Delf | Can't get gnome-shell to start. I'm getting this http://pastebin.com/wj0rL6yF |
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| 13:45.08 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: Don't think so |
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| 13:46.03 | ovidiu-florin | babilen: I'm a maintainer at Kubuntu, so I have some experience with this stuff |
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| 13:46.43 | fishsponge | wols, I can't SSH into my NAS unfortunately... |
| 13:46.44 | Brigo_ | Delf, try to paste /var/log/Xorg.0.lo too. |
| 13:47.02 | Brigo_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:47.56 | fishsponge | gtg! |
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| 13:47.59 | Delf | Almost identical output. |
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| 13:49.02 | Delf | http://pastebin.com/iv3vDXkR |
| 13:49.13 | wols | fishsponge_: since you do it remotely, multiple rm commands are faster however. the network latency causes this |
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| 13:49.30 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: You would still have to wait for the CD team to prepare the images and upload them. |
| 13:49.51 | Brigo_ | Delf, i was a crash in the Xorg or in the driver, try to change it, or you can try to remember when it started. |
| 13:49.57 | ovidiu-florin | ok then. At least I tried. |
| 13:50.08 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: I mean feel free to ask them if they are available *somewhere* already (images are typically uploaded to hidden directory on the images before being switched over) |
| 13:50.26 | babilen | ovidiu-florin: You'd find them in #debian-cd on irc.debian.org (aka irc.oftc.net) |
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| 13:51.32 | Delf | Brigo_: It started when I upgraded gnome-shell among other things. Kernel and upgraded Xorg too. |
| 13:51.38 | ovidiu-florin | will do. thank you babilen |
| 13:51.57 | Brigo_ | Delf, are you using stable? |
| 13:52.09 | wols | babilen: I don't see how a version mismatch is an issue. he gets his error while partitioning, at a point where the netinst doesn't care about the network at all |
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| 13:52.34 | Delf | Brigo_: No, I'm using Jessie |
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| 13:53.26 | Brigo_ | Delf, this is the channel support for stable, if you want testing support try #debian-next channel in OFTC server. |
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| 13:53.59 | Brigo | Delf, but my best answer is to revert changes, one a time. |
| 13:54.12 | Brigo | in testing you have to test :) |
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| 13:54.57 | babilen | wols: I haven't looked into the issue any further. Read the link (s)he posted and didn't even investigate the error message ... |
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| 13:57.14 | babilen | wols: The version mismatch was simply mentioned in the original email |
| 13:59.05 | Delf | Brigo: Thanks! |
| 13:59.16 | Brigo | Delf, you are wellcome :) |
| 13:59.24 | wols | babilen: you promised to ignore than. you lied! :P |
| 13:59.42 | babilen | heh |
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| 14:02.57 | kaka22 | hi guys |
| 14:03.04 | kaka22 | i am trying to clone this package: |
| 14:03.07 | kaka22 | git clone https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/collab-maint/capstone.git |
| 14:03.11 | kaka22 | then got this error: |
| 14:03.18 | kaka22 | fatal: unable to access 'https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/collab-maint/capstone.git/': SSL certificate problem: Invalid certificate chain |
| 14:03.30 | kaka22 | ^^^ any idea what is wrong, and how to fix this? |
| 14:03.34 | SynrG | switch from https: to http: |
| 14:03.41 | SynrG | it uses a self-signed cert |
| 14:04.06 | kaka22 | SynrG: still get the same issue, with same error message |
| 14:04.16 | kaka22 | SynrG: |
| 14:04.28 | kaka22 | i think it auto switch to https, regardless |
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| 14:05.15 | SynrG | hm. let me try ... |
| 14:06.11 | SynrG | no problems here |
| 14:06.13 | kaka22 | sure |
| 14:06.18 | abrotman | proxy? |
| 14:06.23 | kaka22 | hmm, what is wrong with my box … |
| 14:06.26 | kaka22 | no proxy |
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| 14:06.57 | SynrG | GIT_SSL_NO_VERIFY=true git clone https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/collab-maint/capstone.git |
| 14:07.07 | SynrG | try that |
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| 14:07.22 | kaka22 | oh right, this looks familar to me now |
| 14:07.58 | kaka22 | SynrG: ok, https works well without any issue on my Ubuntu VM ! |
| 14:08.13 | SynrG | straaange |
| 14:08.19 | kaka22 | what i reported was from OSX, when i tried to git clone from OSX box |
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| 14:09.37 | SynrG | ok, so why are you asking here, which is for debian support? |
| 14:09.41 | kaka22 | another question: this capstone.git is supposed to have Debian package in debian/ directory. now what do i need to do to generate Debian package?? |
| 14:09.56 | sandman13 | how can i view the module for my touchpad, i have tried dmesg | grep synaptics |
| 14:09.57 | kaka22 | SynrG: yes, my question was above |
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| 14:10.29 | SynrG | kaka22: i mean yeah, i get it, you're using a debian-hosted service, alioth. but it has its own support channel. |
| 14:10.40 | SynrG | also, this is not the support channel for 'everything that makes debs' |
| 14:10.59 | kaka22 | SynrG: i see. so where is the channel for “alioth”? |
| 14:11.05 | SynrG | !alioth |
| 14:11.06 | dpkg | Alioth (http://alioth.debian.org/) is Debian's FusionForge server, see http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth for service and technical details. This service is back online (2013-11-21) following a disk crash, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2013/11/msg00002.html for more information. #alioth on irc.oftc.net. |
| 14:11.15 | SynrG | note: OFTC, not this network |
| 14:11.16 | kaka22 | SynrG: thanks! |
| 14:11.43 | SynrG | and as for building a debian package, are you doing this for ubuntu? |
| 14:11.49 | SynrG | if so, #motu might help ... |
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| 14:12.05 | kaka22 | SynrG: no, of course i will do that on my Debian box |
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| 14:12.28 | kaka22 | but if possible, i want to make it support Ubuntu, too |
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| 14:14.26 | SynrG | dpkg-buildpackage |
| 14:14.43 | sandman13 | found it |
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| 14:15.14 | Psil0Cybin | sorry guys not used to debian just yet, on my rpi is it normal to see (fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime) for the mounted drive |
| 14:16.19 | kaka22 | SynrG: so just i need to: “cd debian; dpkg-buildpackage” ? |
| 14:16.58 | babilen | dpkg: tell Psil0Cybin about raspbian |
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| 14:17.49 | Psil0Cybin | thanks :D |
| 14:18.00 | Psil0Cybin | i have alot to learn just more familour with ubuntu |
| 14:19.22 | SynrG | kaka22: no |
| 14:19.37 | SynrG | kaka22: dpkg-buildpackage is done in the root dir above debian |
| 14:20.01 | SynrG | kaka22: you probably want to skip building source and skip signing the package, so: |
| 14:20.06 | SynrG | kaka22: dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us |
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| 14:20.52 | kaka22 | SynrG: skip building source? i suppose i can only do this after buidling source myself before that? |
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| 14:24.21 | SynrG | kaka22: there are other steps to do to prepare for building the source package when building a package from git that we don't want to get into now. you're looking for quick instructions to build which is all we really cover here |
| 14:24.40 | SynrG | kaka22: a lot of git maintained things use git-buildpackage |
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| 14:26.01 | SynrG | i encourage you to explore more, read docs ... |
| 14:26.20 | kaka22 | SynrG: sure, thanks! |
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| 14:32.37 | dxploit | Unable to install tcpdump any help |
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| 14:32.57 | ompaul | dxploit: what have you done to try and install it? |
| 14:33.00 | dvs | dxploit: how did you try to install it? |
| 14:35.23 | ompaul | nothing :) |
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| 14:36.12 | dxploit | Apt-get install tcpdump |
| 14:36.32 | ompaul | and what was the command result? |
| 14:36.37 | dvs | !info tcpdump |
| 14:36.52 | dpkg | tcpdump: (command-line network traffic analyzer), section net, is optional. Version: 4.5.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 339 kB, Installed size: 952 kB |
| 14:37.12 | ompaul | ,v tcpdump |
| 14:37.13 | judd | Package: tcpdump on i386 -- squeeze: 4.1.1-1; wheezy: 4.3.0-1; jessie: 4.5.1-2; sid: 4.5.1-2 |
| 14:37.45 | ompaul | dxploit: eh you are very slow to reply |
| 14:39.10 | dxploit | Unable to find package tcpdump |
| 14:39.27 | ompaul | dpkg: do these two things exactly >>>>> apt-get update && apt-get install tcpdump |
| 14:39.27 | dpkg | eagerly does these two things exactly >>>>> apt-get update && apt-get install tcpdump |
| 14:39.34 | ompaul | drat |
| 14:39.37 | ompaul | dxploit: : do these two things exactly >>>>> apt-get update && apt-get install tcpdump |
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| 14:40.00 | dxploit | OK I vil try update |
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| 14:40.53 | modyn | I need somebody who are good in Linux . I gonna pay you /msg me |
| 14:41.13 | ompaul | modyn: ask in the channel |
| 14:41.28 | modyn | ompaul: then i would do that |
| 14:41.32 | modyn | i need private show |
| 14:41.35 | modyn | AS I SAID |
| 14:41.46 | ompaul | modyn: well good luck with that |
| 14:41.47 | modyn | SO FUCK YOU AND DONT TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK TO DO |
| 14:41.59 | ompaul | !ops modyn would love some attention |
| 14:42.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj: ompaul complains about: modyn would love some attention |
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| 14:43.06 | babilen | modyn: Please try to keep it civil in here and keep in mind that people in here are volunteers and that statements such as yours are completely inappropriate |
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| 14:43.26 | dvs | hides from attention |
| 14:44.28 | ompaul | dvs: attention left hours ago |
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| 14:56.01 | Elirips | Hello. After I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, do I need to do any addtional steps, or can I just reboot and grub will read the new menu.lst and display it? |
| 14:56.26 | Elirips | or do I need to do something like grub-install or similar? |
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| 14:59.42 | ctmjr | Elirips: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 15:00.02 | Elirips | ctmjr: wheezy, with grub 0.9x (not grub2) |
| 15:00.41 | Elirips | (grub-legacy, 0.97) |
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| 15:01.00 | ctmjr | ok thats your choice run "update-grub" |
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| 15:02.28 | Elirips | ctmjr: and update-grub will not modify my menu.lst ? |
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| 15:02.54 | ctmjr | no it reads from it |
| 15:03.17 | kaka22 | so i build a package from Alioth, and got this error: |
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| 15:03.30 | Elirips | ctmjr: sure? man says: update-grub - program to generate GRUB's menu.lst file |
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| 15:03.36 | kaka22 | dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64 |
| 15:03.36 | kaka22 | dpkg-source --before-build capstone-latest |
| 15:03.38 | kaka22 | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 9.0.0) |
| 15:03.39 | kaka22 | dpkg-buildpackage: warning: build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting |
| 15:03.39 | kaka22 | dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.) |
| 15:03.45 | kaka22 | the command is: $ dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us |
| 15:03.55 | kaka22 | how can i fix this? |
| 15:04.04 | RafaelK | hello folks, |
| 15:04.04 | RafaelK | kaka22 makes kaka :D |
| 15:04.30 | abrotman | kaka22: install the build dependecies? |
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| 15:04.51 | kaka22 | abrotman: meaning debhelper? |
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| 15:05.04 | abrotman | seems .. obvious? |
| 15:05.04 | somiaj | ,v debhelper |
| 15:05.05 | judd | Package: debhelper on i386 -- squeeze: 8.0.0; squeeze-backports: 9.20120909~bpo60+1; wheezy: 9.20120909; jessie: 9.20140228; sid: 9.20140228 |
| 15:05.27 | kaka22 | thanks, trying to do that now …. |
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| 15:07.17 | kaka22 | awesome guys, it worked :-D |
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| 15:10.02 | Node_753 | hello |
| 15:10.09 | Node_753 | id rather kill mself |
| 15:10.11 | Node_753 | then use ubuntu |
| 15:10.23 | abrotman | Node_753: This is #debian, do you need help with Debian? |
| 15:10.27 | Node_753 | yes |
| 15:10.48 | Node_753 | shitbuntu cant create a bootable usb for debian |
| 15:10.50 | Node_753 | how do i fix |
| 15:10.51 | Tachyon` | beware, gnome is as bad as unity these days |
| 15:10.54 | Tachyon` | it can |
| 15:11.00 | Tachyon` | any OS an, you just dd the image aye? |
| 15:11.03 | abrotman | Node_753: Have you read the instructions for creating that bootable USB? |
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| 15:11.21 | Node_753 | yes |
| 15:11.24 | Node_753 | but i need a better tool |
| 15:11.26 | kaka22 | a question: now if a package on Alioth works well, what is the procedure to have it in Debian officially?? |
| 15:11.32 | cra1g321 | can't do something ? just blame the OS ;) |
| 15:11.35 | abrotman | Node_753: please stop using the enter key as punctuation. |
| 15:11.47 | abrotman | Node_753: Please show us the commands you used to create the USB installer |
| 15:12.04 | Node_753 | usb-creator-gtk --allow-system-internal |
| 15:12.22 | abrotman | uh, so you haven't read the instructions |
| 15:12.23 | Node_753 | that is the one in crapbuntu |
| 15:12.26 | Tachyon` | are not debian bin 1 cds hand crafted so you can just dd them to the stick and the boot? sure I remember tha tlast time |
| 15:12.37 | abrotman | Tachyon`: please stop |
| 15:12.38 | Node_753 | btw can i use gnome 2 with the latest stable release |
| 15:12.43 | abrotman | no |
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| 15:12.52 | Tachyon` | hrrm |
| 15:12.53 | abrotman | So perhaps Debian isn't for you either |
| 15:12.54 | Node_753 | i dont want to use ngome 3 |
| 15:13.10 | abrotman | Node_753: then please find another distro. Stable doesn't have Gnome2 or MATE |
| 15:13.12 | Tachyon` | I've been using debian since 1999, but heh, I'll adjust my filter so I'm not exposed to your arrogance |
| 15:13.13 | cra1g321 | Node_753 a quick look at the pakage description and i see - This is a simple utility designed to make startup disks from Ubuntu CDs. |
| 15:13.19 | Node_753 | well i can use |
| 15:13.24 | Node_753 | debian classic |
| 15:13.25 | cra1g321 | FROM UBUNTU CD'S |
| 15:13.26 | Node_753 | right ? |
| 15:13.32 | ctmjr | Elirips: if you do not believe me make a backup of it first (which you should do anyway when someone tells you to do something) |
| 15:13.34 | Node_753 | gnome classic? |
| 15:13.35 | abrotman | Node_753: wtf is Debian Classic? |
| 15:13.40 | abrotman | Node_753: you can, if it works for you. |
| 15:13.58 | Node_753 | gnome 3 seems to be made for 80 yr olds that cant read, so they need lots of images to press on imo |
| 15:14.04 | abrotman | Node_753: Node_753 https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 15:14.21 | abrotman | Node_753: If you don't want to use Gnome3, don't .. But this is the wrong channel to whine. |
| 15:14.35 | Elirips | ctmjr: I made a backup, did an aptitude safe-upgrade, this install a new linux-imge and updated grub, now I edtied menu.lst to remove all the wrong generated entries by update-grub. Do I need to do any additional step or can I just reboot? |
| 15:14.51 | Tachyon` | https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb |
| 15:14.56 | Tachyon` | seems I was right all along, ah well |
| 15:14.59 | abrotman | Tachyon`: I already gave him the URL |
| 15:15.08 | abrotman | Tachyon`: and your URL doesn't match the installation guide |
| 15:15.08 | Node_753 | okey |
| 15:15.15 | jetscreamer | isn't editing menu.list deprecated? |
| 15:15.21 | abrotman | jetscreamer: for GRUB2? |
| 15:15.28 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 15:15.30 | abrotman | yes |
| 15:15.34 | Node_753 | do debian come wit hacker tolls |
| 15:15.34 | jetscreamer | thought so |
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| 15:15.41 | abrotman | Node_753: be more specific |
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| 15:15.52 | Node_753 | need to hacker fbi computers |
| 15:15.56 | cra1g321 | om |
| 15:15.58 | Tachyon` | oh ffs |
| 15:15.59 | Adept- | lol |
| 15:16.01 | cra1g321 | go play mincraft kid |
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| 15:16.04 | jetscreamer | go for it.. let me call dhs first |
| 15:16.16 | jetscreamer | ah well too slow |
| 15:16.22 | Adept- | he'd be better off with backtrack anyway |
| 15:16.23 | Adept- | lol |
| 15:16.27 | abrotman | Right, saw that coming a mile away .. |
| 15:16.38 | abrotman | hence trying to keep the other 12 folks from getting involved. |
| 15:16.39 | cra1g321 | wait wait, why the ban ? you forgot to tell him how to install compiz and get wobbly windows !!! |
| 15:16.44 | abrotman | ... |
| 15:16.49 | Tachyon` | dunno why he'd want to go at the FBI, everyone knows all the interesting stuff is with the NSA -.o |
| 15:16.57 | Adept- | you failed abrotman |
| 15:17.02 | abrotman | no .. you all failed. |
| 15:17.04 | Adept- | the virii has spread |
| 15:17.09 | abrotman | Please move on. |
| 15:17.21 | jetscreamer | actually fbi might be more interesting.. moving on... |
| 15:17.36 | abrotman | jetscreamer: What are you trying to change about GRUB2? |
| 15:17.42 | cra1g321 | jetscreamer i edit /etc/default/grub then do a update-grub to apply the changes, i just do this for setting the default OS to boot |
| 15:17.50 | jetscreamer | nah it was in response to ... |
| 15:18.01 | cra1g321 | i'm not sure if that's the correct file to edit, but works for me |
| 15:18.04 | jetscreamer | [10.14.35] <Elirips> ctmjr: I made a backup, did an aptitude safe-upgrade, this install a new linux-imge and updated grub, now I edtied menu.lst to remove all the wrong generated entries by update-grub. Do I need to do any additional step or can I just reboot? |
| 15:18.11 | abrotman | cra1g321: in most cases, that is the right method |
| 15:18.13 | ctmjr | Elirips:if you want to remove old kernels you need to delete them then run update-grub |
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| 15:18.32 | abrotman | ctmjr: if you remove them with apt, update-grub should already happen |
| 15:18.55 | abrotman | assuming said kernels were installed with apt |
| 15:19.06 | Elirips | ctmjr: update-grub fails to create correct entries. It does not keep the console=hvc0 and sets a root-device by using the uuid, what does not work here, it needs to keep the dev/xvda |
| 15:19.13 | jetscreamer | but yeah i keep forgetting where the file to edit is and i need to redo it :) |
| 15:19.24 | abrotman | jetscreamer: /etc/default/grub |
| 15:19.26 | Elirips | so, my question is simple: After editing menu.lst, do I need to do any additional step to apply the changes, or can I just reboot? |
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| 15:19.36 | abrotman | Elirips: Do not edit menu.lst |
| 15:19.47 | jetscreamer | thx |
| 15:19.49 | abrotman | Elirips: If you read the top of that file, it tells you so |
| 15:20.03 | cra1g321 | yeha it says that |
| 15:20.06 | cra1g321 | yeah * |
| 15:20.10 | Elirips | abrotman: Well, but what should I do then? update-grub fails to create a correct one |
| 15:20.17 | abrotman | Elirips: define "correct" |
| 15:20.35 | Elirips | abrotman: it keeps my working entry on top, and adds more entries below, which will not work |
| 15:20.49 | abrotman | Elirips: You probably need to edit /etc/default/grub ? |
| 15:20.49 | jetscreamer | you can set the default |
| 15:21.03 | jetscreamer | it doesn't have to be 'on top' if you set it |
| 15:21.41 | jetscreamer | you can have it point at the label.. i forget the correct term |
| 15:21.48 | cra1g321 | might help - https://wiki.debian.org/Grub#Configuring_grub_v2 |
| 15:21.50 | jetscreamer | the default of grub2 i mean |
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| 15:22.02 | Elirips | jetscreamer: i'm on grub 0.97 |
| 15:22.08 | abrotman | ugh .. why? |
| 15:22.27 | jetscreamer | oh well edit menu.lst away, if that's grub 1 |
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| 15:22.56 | Elirips | jetscreamer: How can read grub that file while its booting? The filesystem, etc. is not set up then? |
| 15:23.08 | jetscreamer | me i always found it easier to just keep grub1 since it worked and i knew how to configure it, but now i'm on grub2 |
| 15:23.23 | abrotman | grub1 is very dead upstream |
| 15:23.45 | Elirips | abrotman: because of xen |
| 15:23.47 | jetscreamer | eliad: grub can read files off your fs |
| 15:24.07 | abrotman | Elirips: I don't believe that matters anymore if you're on wheezy |
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| 15:24.59 | jetscreamer | you can set grub1 with a default boot too |
| 15:25.19 | jetscreamer | so you need to learn how to set the default, no matter which version you're using |
| 15:25.34 | jetscreamer | imo |
| 15:25.37 | Big-Blue | is the current Debian stable as good for gaming as the testing/unstable distributions, performance-wise? |
| 15:26.06 | jetscreamer | probably, but the vid drivers might not be the latest |
| 15:26.14 | ctmjr | goes back to his corner and let's the experts take over |
| 15:26.29 | jetscreamer | joins ctmjr in the corner |
| 15:27.07 | digdilem | cosy over here, isn't it? |
| 15:27.13 | Elirips | jetscreamer: the default is set, I just could not imagine that grub can read from that file before everything is loaded, so I thought it needs something like grub-install to "store" the configuration inside grub. |
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| 15:27.31 | Elirips | but seems I was totally wrong |
| 15:27.50 | jetscreamer | you have to update-grub after you edit, iirc, but that's about it, with grub1 |
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| 15:28.41 | Maerz | trying to install debian on a zfs system... current problem is that it fails to mount the system in initrd because it chooses the wrong pool name "rpool" instead of mine "main" |
| 15:28.44 | jetscreamer | remember, 'everything' is a file, with linux, even the kernel |
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| 15:29.05 | jetscreamer | or so i've heard |
| 15:29.29 | Penix | hmmrghh |
| 15:29.42 | jetscreamer | !penixstrike Penix |
| 15:29.43 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking Penix to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 15:29.55 | Adept- | .... |
| 15:31.36 | ompaul | wtf |
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| 15:41.49 | Tasab | failed-to-execute-child-process , how to resolve this issue pls |
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| 15:43.33 | abrotman | Tasab: need way way more information |
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| 15:45.06 | Elirips | ah, I should read more carefully, especially if its written in capitals, like '## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs' sorry for the noise, update-grub works fine now |
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| 15:46.17 | Tasab | abrotman, 2things happened , i can't install deb packages , the the hdd not appear in the home and can't mount it |
| 15:46.38 | Tasab | * then the ... |
| 15:46.57 | abrotman | ... |
| 15:47.01 | abrotman | Need way way more information |
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| 15:51.37 | Tasab | abrotman, see this pls http://minus.com/lLUtKe4wFNvPR |
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| 15:53.28 | abrotman | Tasab: I'm more concerned about the 'can't install packages' |
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| 15:54.14 | cumana | hello |
| 15:54.42 | cumana | where does update-initramfs store information about kernel versions? it tries to update kernel, which I removed |
| 15:55.09 | Tasab | abrotman, hang on pls 4 a while - will back 2 u , tks |
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| 15:56.40 | SynrG | cumana: how did you remove the kernel? |
| 15:57.46 | Delf | SynrG: Trying to determine if apt did something wrong or if it was user error? |
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| 15:58.29 | cumana | SynrG, I installed it by copying bzImage & initrd to /boot and running make modules_install, then I just removed these files |
| 15:58.42 | SynrG | did you really? |
| 15:58.44 | cumana | I compiled it on my own |
| 15:58.54 | SynrG | from a reading of /usr/sbin/update-initramfs: |
| 15:58.59 | SynrG | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.01 | SynrG | ... etc. |
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| 16:00.10 | SynrG | oops, sorry, wrong version :) let me go look at the real one :) |
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| 16:00.45 | somiaj | cumana: note modern linux kernels have a 'make debpkg' option so you can use the kernel make files to make the kernel into a debian package, which I would suggest for installing/removing kernels |
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| 16:01.06 | somiaj | but my guess is it scans though /boot, but looks like SynrG is looking at the actual script |
| 16:01.11 | cumana | right, thanks for this tip |
| 16:01.17 | SynrG | wrong one, though |
| 16:01.25 | cumana | I removed everything related from boot :< |
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| 16:01.34 | cumana | so it looks somewhere else, I think |
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| 16:02.16 | SynrG | and it's /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs to look at |
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| 16:03.43 | SynrG | hm, or not |
| 16:04.25 | cumana | I got it probably, there is additional entry in /var/lib/initramfs-tools |
| 16:04.52 | SynrG | STATEDIR=/var/lib/initramfs-tools |
| 16:04.58 | SynrG | hah. well, i just arrived there |
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| 16:05.23 | cumana | :] |
| 16:05.24 | cumana | thanks! |
| 16:05.39 | SynrG | sorted_versions() in update-initramfs iterates over those |
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| 16:06.53 | SynrG | it puts them in dpkg --compare-versions order. nice. |
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| 16:08.01 | cumana | TIL: how mkinitramfs works. |
| 16:08.16 | SynrG | cumana: and use update-initramfs -d in future :) |
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| 16:09.50 | cumana | right ;) cya |
| 16:10.08 | mingtsay | if I want my Debian to be a gateway, is it only need to do? "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" |
| 16:10.25 | Mysterytrain | wow. I have a 320gb hard drive, I told installer to set up encrypted volumes, and it's been sutck on "erasing data" for the past hour. is this normal? |
| 16:10.42 | frostschutz | if it erases data - sure. |
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| 16:12.19 | ragutierrez_ | hello there, I need help recovering encrypted ubuntu files... |
| 16:12.48 | ragutierrez_ | is there someone to help me? |
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| 16:13.36 | mtn | ragutierrez_: you should go to the #ubuntu channel |
| 16:13.59 | ragutierrez_ | well, I'm using now debian |
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| 16:14.25 | mtn | !ask |
| 16:14.25 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:14.40 | ragutierrez_ | mtn: the thing is that the files of my home were encrypted, and I cant recover them |
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| 16:15.18 | mtn | ragutierrez_: I know nothing about encryption, but maybe someone else does. give us the details |
| 16:16.19 | ragutierrez_ | mtn: I was using ecryptfs-recover-private but there are only two files shown "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" and "README.txt" |
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| 16:16.50 | ragutierrez_ | but no one gives me the files that I'm looking for |
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| 16:17.30 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: are you saying you replaced the ubuntu with debian but left the home encrypted? |
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| 16:17.44 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: yes |
| 16:17.53 | ndak | hi i need to install openvpn server with PEM. I gonna pay you for the help /msg me |
| 16:18.02 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: but I cant see them |
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| 16:18.15 | dingo_ | Hey. |
| 16:18.51 | dingo_ | Just before, when trying to open a lot of my programs, I got "Input/output error". I read that this could indicate disk trouble (As it seems my rootfs was set to read-only suddenly...), so I rebooted with fsck. However, fsck gave me a clean bill of health... |
| 16:18.58 | dingo_ | Should I be freaking out that my disk is about to die or is it probably fine? |
| 16:19.26 | ompaul | ndak: read the howto on the openvpn web site it is very clear and takes you though many steps - when you have problem and you don't get the config file right or the correct keys copied to the right place you have a problem that those things will fix, there are no other issues that I am aware of, unless you don't have a static ip which is not an open vpn question |
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| 16:20.56 | ompaul | ,v ecryptfs-recover-private |
| 16:20.57 | judd | No package named 'ecryptfs-recover-private' was found in i386. |
| 16:21.02 | ompaul | didn't think so |
| 16:21.19 | Delf | Do we have a guide for troubleshooting? |
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| 16:21.42 | ompaul | Delf: what? |
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| 16:22.38 | mtn | Delf: yes, it is called a wiki |
| 16:22.41 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: I did that, and it appeared two files "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" and "README.txt" |
| 16:23.03 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: that program does not appear in debian as that what package is it in? |
| 16:23.04 | Delf | A book/guide that explains the structure of the OS so one can learn how it works and what could be wrong and so on... |
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| 16:23.16 | Chewy64 | SynrG, You around? Is it possible to install a backported kernel right from the get go? |
| 16:23.51 | ompaul | Chewy64: installing in a chroot |
| 16:24.36 | nezZario | How can I install ONLY x and no WM? |
| 16:24.45 | SynrG | Delf: knowing "the structure of the OS" is quite a different body of knowledge than "knowing how to troubleshoot" |
| 16:24.52 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: yes, I installed through apt-get |
| 16:24.52 | nezZario | Basically I want the most lightweight gui setup possible.. I guess x+twm ? |
| 16:25.08 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 16:25.22 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: wheezy |
| 16:25.29 | Chewy64 | ompaul, Eh? I mean, is there say, a liveCD with backported kernels? |
| 16:25.31 | Delf | SynrG: I see. (un)fortunately I got lots to learn :) |
| 16:25.44 | pengwyn | wheezy 2 lenny |
| 16:25.48 | SynrG | Delf: most troubleshooting is making a series of educated guesses based on what you know so far ... |
| 16:25.58 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: I asked a channel bot for version numbers for that program and it said: <judd> No package named 'ecryptfs-recover-private' was found in i386. |
| 16:26.02 | pengwyn | backchannosd |
| 16:26.04 | SynrG | Delf: broadening what you know by reading more doc related to your problem. |
| 16:26.12 | mtn | nezZario: in taskselect don't choose a desktop. after install add what you want |
| 16:26.25 | SynrG | Delf: there is *so* much to know, that there is no one "troubleshooting guide" that would cover everything |
| 16:26.40 | ompaul | Chewy64: I have no idea if such a thing exists, I doubt it. |
| 16:26.47 | pengwyn | I can cover everything for a moment in time |
| 16:26.58 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: I have amd64 |
| 16:27.03 | Chewy64 | ompaul, Kind of what I figured too. |
| 16:27.03 | Delf | SynrG: Does it not help troubleshooting if you know the structure of the OS? Then, at least you know where to start, no? |
| 16:27.07 | pengwyn | I got dell 690 |
| 16:27.20 | pengwyn | petra 64 |
| 16:27.22 | tonythomas | Hi ! I'm having dependency problems on installing g++ in my debian wheezy |
| 16:27.25 | pengwyn | Yum |
| 16:27.30 | abrotman | pengwyn: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 16:27.31 | nezZario | mtn: yeah, i'm sorry, I already have a headless debian setup |
| 16:27.40 | teraflop | ompaul: ecryptfs-utils |
| 16:27.42 | Chewy64 | Delf: It can help you know what to look for, but it doesn't nessesarily help you troubleshoot. That required logical problem solving at some level. |
| 16:27.43 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: that is a program that ubuntu has. It is not a debian program. We don't have it or the bot would say so. Conclusion you are not running debian. |
| 16:27.48 | ompaul | ahh |
| 16:27.50 | pengwyn | abrotman: I want to helop with debian |
| 16:27.52 | tonythomas | I get g++ : Depends: g++-4.7 (>= 4.7.2-1~) but it is not going to be installed |
| 16:27.52 | tonythomas | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.01 | ompaul | teraflop: it would be nice if people answered questions correctly |
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| 16:28.08 | teraflop | yeap |
| 16:28.09 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: I did "sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils"... and it installed |
| 16:28.12 | nezZario | I was asking more of what pkgs to install? I guess just try to install a window manager? |
| 16:28.17 | pengwyn | I haver raqcop |
| 16:28.21 | pengwyn | running debian |
| 16:28.28 | pengwyn | lenny |
| 16:28.31 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: not what you told me earlier |
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| 16:28.47 | Delf | Chewy64: What to look for is important for me, since I don't know enough about Debian. |
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| 16:29.20 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: the problem is that I cant see the ecrypted files |
| 16:29.26 | ompaul | Delf: search the internet for Debian Administrators Handbook |
| 16:29.28 | SynrG | Delf: then you start with what you don't know that is preventing you from doing the next thing you want to do |
| 16:29.48 | SynrG | Delf: look up things relating to that issue until you understand it. move to the next problem. |
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| 16:29.49 | mtn | nezZario: this might help: https://wiki.debian.org/Xorg |
| 16:30.17 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Where got yesterday was this: Everything works wonderfully up until I configure all four cards. From initial install of OS, to driver install, all is good. Then you update aticonfig for all four cards and it goes to shit. |
| 16:30.23 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: the program claims //to allow you to access your decrypted data and save somewhere else// so if you have the partition mounted and see nothing ... I guess you didn't recover anything |
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| 16:31.26 | ompaul | Delf: if you think you can bluff your way though an admin job interview, fain being sick miss the interview say next time |
| 16:31.28 | SynrG | Chewy64: so with a single card, if you run aticonfig is it fine? |
| 16:31.46 | ompaul | Delf: then spend the down time learning |
| 16:31.58 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: I realized that the info was there when I tried to delete the /home/<user> folder and it started to delete encrypted files |
| 16:32.07 | Chewy64 | SynrG, Yes. And I get Gnome as intended, none of the replicating desktop, etc. The second I run aticongif --initial --adapter=all and reboot, it all come back. |
| 16:32.10 | mingtsay | if I want my Debian to be a gateway, is this only what I need to do? "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" |
| 16:33.00 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: so (A) you have encrypted file system (B) you deleted files on that system (C) you asked us without telling us how bad the situation was (D) file recovery after that is going to be painful - I'd suggest put the disk to one side |
| 16:33.17 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: get a new one - slowly try to recover data |
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| 16:34.03 | teraflop | or ask nsa for help |
| 16:34.39 | Delf | Thank you all. |
| 16:34.50 | converge | does someone uses rsnapshot here? is this line wrong ? backup_script user@remote-host.com:/root/mysql_dump.sh mysql_dump/ |
| 16:34.57 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: I dont know what you mean with "get a new one - slowly try to recover data" |
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| 16:36.10 | SynrG | Chewy64: can you unscrew it by rerunning aticonfig on just one card when that happens? |
| 16:36.37 | Chewy64 | SynrG, In general, I can't really do much after. I can give er a go though I suppose. |
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| 16:37.12 | SynrG | Chewy64: maybe #ati can help figure out why this happens. whether it is an old bug fixed in a later release, or else perhaps something that can be fixed with manual configuration |
| 16:37.43 | SynrG | Chewy64: you're on what, now, the stable version of the driver, or the backports? |
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| 16:37.50 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I'll head over there and see if there is anything they know about it. Is it possible to create snapshots in Debian? |
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| 16:38.10 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I'm not the stable release for drivers, and kernel. |
| 16:38.20 | SynrG | Chewy64: .. ? |
| 16:38.41 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: the idea that it was encrypted doesn't strike you as being "this is not going to end well" when you deleted the files |
| 16:39.19 | SynrG | Chewy64: i am loath to suggest this but perhaps the upstream version (which only #ati supports; we do not) is needed for your hardware. |
| 16:39.28 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: if you can run your file manager as root or just su you can you take a look around and see if anything is there - but I doubt you are going to have any luck |
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| 16:40.04 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: well, thanks and sorry for disturbing arround |
| 16:40.11 | SynrG | Chewy64: but that's something they might want you to try. |
| 16:40.29 | Chewy64 | SynrG, That wouldn;t surprise me a whole lot. These 290Xs are a huge bitch driver wise no matter how you slice it OS wise. |
| 16:40.59 | SynrG | Chewy64: if you do have to resort to that, maybe later Debian will have a backport of the newer driver for wheezy so you no longer have to use their crap |
| 16:41.30 | Chewy64 | Very possibly. |
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| 16:42.38 | Tasab | abrotman, see the attached pastebin link pls : http://pastebin.com/2FZQYVLm |
| 16:43.04 | SynrG | Chewy64: it's generally not supported to mix testing + stable, but it might be possible to install a later fglrx-driver on top of stable ... |
| 16:43.16 | SynrG | and that would be marginally better than using amd's installer. |
| 16:43.27 | SynrG | ,v fglrx-driver |
| 16:43.28 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:13.12-4~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.3~beta1.0-1; sid/non-free: 1:14.4~rc1.0.apr17-1 |
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| 16:44.37 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: put the disk to one side cos you might get more skills or better ideas yourself in a few days |
| 16:45.01 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: there are file system recovery tools but they are for standard file systems |
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| 16:45.36 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: what you have is something to unlock the data, the /tmp/ thing it makes is your shot at getting access |
| 16:46.03 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: I have only one disk and I need to write data on it... |
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| 16:46.53 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: which is why I said ... get a new disk |
| 16:47.04 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: I will keep trying in the next hours and if nothing happen, I will declare lost information... |
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| 16:47.29 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: if you must write, you must write, if you type sudo -i and df |
| 16:47.38 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: enter that partition |
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| 16:47.40 | ompaul | du -h |
| 16:48.01 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: ^^ do that if you don't see any more than a few k of data - there is nothing there to be recovered |
| 16:48.02 | nullA_ | ragutierrez_: has the machine been powered off since you deleted the files ?> |
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| 16:48.24 | ompaul | nullA_: it's an encrypted fs they sat on ... |
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| 16:48.38 | Chewy64 | SynrG, I tried aticonfig for all, then aticonfig for one. It boots to a blank screen. |
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| 16:49.04 | teraflop | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ECryptfs#Undo_encryption |
| 16:49.12 | teraflop | it uses the ubuntu package |
| 16:49.56 | ragutierrez_ | nullA_: I had Ubuntu installed, then I installed Debian keeping home intact. |
| 16:50.20 | ompaul | teraflop: he got past that and deleted data ... |
| 16:50.30 | ompaul | or at least that is the story as I read it |
| 16:50.40 | teraflop | i read that |
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| 16:50.58 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: can you give me the command in one line. I dont know how to do it... I'm new with this |
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| 16:51.24 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: sudo -i |
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| 16:51.33 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: tell us when you are there |
| 16:51.58 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: I'm there |
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| 16:52.10 | nullA_ | ragutierrez_: if the box has not been powered off the key should be in volatile memory, the first thing is you should copy the entire disk and memory to backup |
| 16:52.19 | Chewy64 | SynrG, BUT! going aticonfig for all, reboot, aticonfig for one, reboot, aticonfig for one, reverts it back to normal operation. |
| 16:52.45 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: fdisk -l (paste it to http://paste.debian.net) |
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| 16:53.02 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: uptime (paste it to http://paste.debian.net) |
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| 16:54.58 | tonythomas | getting lots of dependency problems on installing g++ on debian wheezy |
| 16:55.01 | tonythomas | please help |
| 16:55.17 | ompaul | !tell about bat |
| 16:55.18 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: http://pastebin.com/azhiBhSs |
| 16:55.30 | tonythomas | on apt-get isntall ++ : Depends: g++-4.7 (>= 4.7.2-1~) but it is not going to be installed |
| 16:55.43 | ompaul | tonythomas: do all of them check you have all of them and please use paste.debian.net because ... it doesn't spam |
| 16:56.20 | Zdk_ | ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.6 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 4060 MB Total (1574 MB Free) ** VGA: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4500 Series (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1) ** Uptime: 76.69 Hours ** |
| 16:56.31 | abrotman | Zdk_: please don't do that, no one cares |
| 16:56.41 | tonythomas | ompaul: I will have to install all the pakcages separately ? |
| 16:56.47 | Zdk_ | Sorry, I was just testing. My mad. |
| 16:56.49 | Zdk_ | bad* |
| 16:56.56 | ompaul | na mad was right |
| 16:57.09 | Zdk_ | ^^'' |
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| 16:57.42 | ompaul | tonythomas: eh just use the stuff that the bot asked --- it is not asking you to install stuff it is asking for command lines and all sorts of stuff |
| 16:58.16 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: eh, also df please |
| 16:58.16 | tonythomas | ompaul: command lines ? |
| 16:58.28 | ompaul | tonythomas: see message from bot please |
| 16:58.41 | ompaul | tonythomas: yes they are ... there are several |
| 16:58.54 | ompaul | woops |
| 16:59.02 | teraflop | lol |
| 16:59.02 | ompaul | !tell tonythomas about bat |
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| 16:59.14 | ompaul | teraflop: thanks for the caring support ;-) |
| 16:59.41 | teraflop | yw ;) |
| 16:59.49 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: http://pastebin.com/aP8JLEeP |
| 16:59.53 | ompaul | tonythomas: it appears to be useful for people who ask people to read what the bot sent to ask the bot to send data in the first place |
| 17:00.01 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: please use paste.debian.net |
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| 17:00.23 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: cd /home/home/ragutierrez |
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| 17:01.33 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: what is the output of the following command >>> du -h |
| 17:01.42 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: when I tried to paste there, an error happen... |
| 17:01.44 | ragutierrez_ | I did cd |
| 17:01.57 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: what is the output of the following command >>> du -h |
| 17:02.08 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: just the last line |
| 17:02.43 | ragutierrez_ | 24K |
| 17:03.23 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: that is how much data you have recovered - the data is to all intensive purposes gone IF you have rebooted since you did the delete |
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| 17:03.35 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: have you rebooted since the delete |
| 17:04.00 | tonythomas | ompaul: here is the output http://paste.debian.net/96024/ |
| 17:04.10 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: yes, I installed debian 1 and a half day ago |
| 17:05.20 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: you deleted files after that? |
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| 17:06.45 | ompaul | ,v g++ |
| 17:06.46 | judd | Package: g++ on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.8.2-3; sid: 4:4.8.2-3; experimental: 4:4.9-2exp1 |
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| 17:07.41 | ragutierrez_ | yes, I was deleting some folders. And when I tried to delete "/home/home/ragutierrez" it started to delete like 10 or more files and I stoped the command |
| 17:07.51 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: did you restart after that? |
| 17:08.39 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: no, i did't. I came here for a couching about how to recover the files |
| 17:08.43 | ompaul | tonythomas: eh, you appear to have other sources.list files could you paste them all please /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is a good place to look for suspects and sources.list just in case |
| 17:09.04 | tonythomas | ompaul: oh ! I never found that. let me check |
| 17:09.11 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: have you another machine? |
| 17:09.43 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: or an external disk bigger than the hard drive? |
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| 17:10.10 | ragutierrez_ | no, bigger I don't... Y have a flash dive with 16GB |
| 17:10.34 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: unless you want to get such a disk you can't go forward |
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| 17:11.09 | ragutierrez_ | ompaul: but can I use /dev/sda3??? |
| 17:11.32 | tonythomas | ompaul: found google-chrome.list in /apt/sources/list.d/ |
| 17:11.38 | tonythomas | http://paste.debian.net/96027/ |
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| 17:15.29 | ompaul | one moment please |
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| 17:16.09 | cybrNaut | is there a universal way to see the release notes of a package version? |
| 17:16.35 | cybrNaut | e.g. aptitude versions samba will say what version is installed, and what's available, but it doesn't tell me the difference |
| 17:17.25 | centrx | cybrNaut, The difference is usually in the package description? |
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| 17:18.50 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: mount it and check |
| 17:19.02 | ompaul | ragutierrez_: if it is debian yes you are using it |
| 17:19.12 | ompaul | tonythomas: nothing else? |
| 17:19.38 | tonythomas | ompaul: nothing more than that in sources.list.d/ |
| 17:20.15 | cybrNaut | centrx: "aptitude show" will show the differences of other dependancy package versions, but it does not seem to describe features/bugs that the new version affects |
| 17:20.17 | tonythomas | but in trusted.gpg.d/ I see both wheezy and squeeze entries |
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| 17:21.11 | ompaul | tonythomas: this should look ok: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get install g++ |
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| 17:21.32 | ompaul | tonythomas: that by the way was not aptitude :) |
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| 17:21.51 | tonythomas | ompaul: oh ! let me try |
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| 17:22.00 | ompaul | has his reasons when dealing with problematic packages |
| 17:22.13 | ompaul | not the best reasons in the world but reasons none the less |
| 17:22.38 | tonythomas | ompaul: ha. hope this will get it right |
| 17:23.16 | ompaul | tonythomas: you may see various programs getting upgraded, if you do and you see a new kernel then --- reboot --- also best to do things like that outside of X in case it ever touches your X |
| 17:23.41 | centrx | cybrNaut, Use apt-listchanges or look at the package's changelog on packages.debian.org |
| 17:23.43 | ompaul | tonythomas: shouldn't break things but always better not to be caught out by it |
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| 17:24.07 | centrx | cybrNaut, If you are using stable, the changes are usually essential or security-related |
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| 17:24.46 | cybrNaut | centrx: thanks! i didn't know about apt-listchanges.. that's just what I need |
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| 17:27.00 | teraflop | lol |
| 17:27.02 | tonythomas | ompaul: nah! no luck this time too.. getting the same eror |
| 17:27.21 | jelly-home | ,i speedtest-cli |
| 17:27.22 | judd | No package named 'speedtest-cli' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 17:27.31 | tonythomas | I ran it as root. not a problem right ? |
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| 17:27.38 | teraflop | how the hell is the encrypted data accessed if the location os /home/home/whatever |
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| 17:27.53 | teraflop | <since originally was into (home/whatever |
| 17:28.15 | ompaul | teraflop: he mounted it there |
| 17:28.42 | ompaul | teraflop: see the /tmp |
| 17:28.49 | tonythomas | ompaul: is there any probs with the extra source list ? |
| 17:28.51 | ompaul | untangle if you may |
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| 17:29.04 | ompaul | tonythomas: give me your full sources.list please |
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| 17:29.54 | tonythomas | ompaul: I dont see anything more than the one I pasted in sources.list.d/ |
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| 17:31.47 | ompaul | tonythomas: your actual sources.list the one with wheezy in it |
| 17:32.15 | tonythomas | ompaul: that was the one, I pasted in the first place |
| 17:32.27 | ompaul | tonythomas: link? |
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| 17:32.41 | tonythomas | ompaul: sorry ! will paste in a min |
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| 17:33.17 | ompaul | tonythomas: it wasn't !bat ;-) |
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| 17:33.29 | tonythomas | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/96034/ |
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| 17:35.10 | ompaul | tonythomas: new improved (or at least edited) please use this http://paste.debian.net/96035/ and do the apt-get update && etc again |
| 17:35.12 | cra1g321 | tonythomas you have duplicate lines |
| 17:35.22 | ompaul | cra1g321: as I edited them away ;-) |
| 17:35.47 | cra1g321 | don't foget to tell him why you made those changes ;) |
| 17:36.02 | ompaul | cra1g321: na, I'll point at your line :) |
| 17:37.01 | ompaul | tonythomas: see cra1g321 and the comment about dupe lines - you were pointing to three different repos, repos can be out of step with each other even on the same day (bugs and the like - stale cos they fell apart) whatever it was |
| 17:37.13 | ompaul | tonythomas: so the extra stuff was removed (not needed) |
| 17:37.43 | ruukasu | whenever I run apt-mirror, it gets stuck on [20]... [19]... [18]... [17]... [16]... [15]... [14]... [13]... [12]... [11]... [10]... [9]... |
| 17:37.47 | ruukasu | been there for like 45 minutes |
| 17:38.00 | ruukasu | usually takes ~3 minutes to start actually downloading |
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| 17:39.14 | ompaul | ruukasu: depends on what you are pointing at - any of those repos not available that's what that looks like |
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| 17:39.35 | cra1g321 | i didnt realise http://http.debian.net/debian would work, does it do anything different to picking a typical mirror ? |
| 17:39.37 | ompaul | ruukasu: as it relies on it's own config file perhaps have a look in there for something that might have gone away |
| 17:39.58 | ruukasu | ompaul, all my sources in mirror.list are at http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
| 17:40.23 | ompaul | cra1g321: aiui (and I might not ui at all) it is a replacement for the whole cdn thing |
| 17:40.55 | ompaul | ruukasu: then maybe try another repo as a test - maybe your route to there is bad |
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| 17:41.13 | ompaul | ruukasu: aka - faulty upstream and outside your control |
| 17:41.25 | ruukasu | ompaul, where can I find a list of mirrors? |
| 17:41.30 | ruukasu | repos* |
| 17:41.36 | SquirrelCZECH | hi folks, someone willing to give me help on postfix? |
| 17:41.36 | ompaul | ruukasu: debian.org |
| 17:41.37 | SquirrelCZECH | :) |
| 17:41.41 | cra1g321 | https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 17:41.54 | ompaul | long hand ;-) |
| 17:42.06 | ompaul | tonythomas: yes and? |
| 17:42.13 | ompaul | is interested in an update |
| 17:42.16 | SquirrelCZECH | needs to prepare testmail postfix configuration, because of one piece of sotftware, that needs to login into that testmail machine and fetch some emails |
| 17:42.36 | SquirrelCZECH | but, I've got problems with "can't find domain 'testmail'" |
| 17:42.50 | ompaul | SquirrelCZECH: cos you don't have FQDN |
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| 17:42.56 | ompaul | or something like that? |
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| 17:43.11 | SquirrelCZECH | oh, yes, I do not have one |
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| 17:43.29 | SquirrelCZECH | but, postfix on that server, doesn't even have to know about internet |
| 17:43.31 | ompaul | SquirrelCZECH: also correct mx data and stuff |
| 17:43.43 | SquirrelCZECH | gives it emails from localhost |
| 17:43.57 | SquirrelCZECH | so... is there a way how to make it work without proper name? |
| 17:44.00 | ompaul | SquirrelCZECH: it should mail root |
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| 17:44.09 | ompaul | and get it over with not a postfix issue |
| 17:44.24 | nonconvergent | Any idea what I should do to get a better battery life? |
| 17:44.49 | ompaul | SquirrelCZECH: actually a bit of data on what progrma you are using might be useful I'm off in a few minutes so don't rely on anything I might say |
| 17:44.59 | ompaul | tonythomas: did that work for you ? |
| 17:45.10 | SquirrelCZECH | ompaul: I am configuring postfix on debian server :D |
| 17:45.37 | SquirrelCZECH | because I need to properly test fetchmail configuration |
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| 17:45.51 | ompaul | SquirrelCZECH: check out https://wiki.debian.org/Postfix |
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| 17:48.23 | Trieste | Hi, I want to install node.js from sid repos, how would I go about that? Add it to sources.list, and then somehow lower the priority so that I stay on stable? |
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| 17:48.53 | tonythomas | ompaul: I got cut off for a min. Checking the same in a while |
| 17:48.55 | tonythomas | sorry |
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| 17:49.08 | jelly-home | Trieste: don't mix stable with any newer repos, that way lies madness, treachery and pain |
| 17:49.10 | nonconvergent | Trieste: Don't. |
| 17:49.12 | cybrNaut | would someone with java please run "aptitude changelog openjdk-6-jdk".. i get 404 not found and I wonder if the problem is on my end or the server |
| 17:49.35 | Trieste | haha, okay |
| 17:49.38 | ompaul | Trieste: you and alice will go down the rabbit hole but only alice will come back sane |
| 17:49.45 | ompaul | hehe |
| 17:49.46 | nonconvergent | Trieste: When it comes to platforms, frameworks, and compilers for development, you should install locally. |
| 17:49.57 | nonconvergent | Trieste: I do the same thing for Haskell, Ruby, and Perl. |
| 17:50.18 | ompaul | tonythomas: I've to head out - it should be easy to test |
| 17:50.19 | nonconvergent | I can tinker around all I like and nothing I do will break anyting systemwide. |
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| 17:50.21 | jelly-home | Trieste: if you absolutely require that version, installing in a testing or sid chroot might be an option |
| 17:50.44 | Trieste | the thing is, I want to install it on a raspi, and I don't really want to compile it on there - and cross-compilation is a whole another realm of madness and pain |
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| 17:51.42 | jelly-home | you're probably running raspbian on that raspi... which is really a derivative |
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| 17:51.52 | ompaul | !raspbian |
| 17:51.53 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 17:51.55 | Trieste | jelly-home: I am not |
| 17:51.58 | Trieste | :) |
| 17:52.21 | ompaul | Trieste: someone in their community mentioned above might have made such a package already |
| 17:52.31 | jelly-home | Trieste: if dpkg --print-architecture says "armhf", it's not debian |
| 17:52.36 | Trieste | I specifically went out of my way to make a debian image by myself |
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| 17:52.40 | Trieste | I know what I'm using, haha |
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| 17:53.09 | jelly-home | Trieste: what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say, then? :-) |
| 17:53.13 | Trieste | armel. |
| 17:53.17 | _2_Jessica | Hi everybody |
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| 17:53.50 | jelly-home | Trieste: ah, you're mad already :-) |
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| 17:54.04 | Trieste | jelly-home: I'm not denying that |
| 17:54.22 | _2_Jessica | :( |
| 17:54.44 | jelly-home | _2_Jessica: how much is two plus three? |
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| 17:55.06 | _2_Jessica | five y |
| 17:55.23 | jelly-home | _2_Jessica: what... is your favorite color? |
| 17:55.37 | Trieste | nonconvergent: so, install locally = compile on there? |
| 17:55.38 | _2_Jessica | purple y |
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| 17:56.08 | jelly-home | _2_Jessica: you pass as a human... FOR NOW. Welcome to Debian tech support channel, and have a nice day. |
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| 17:56.27 | Trieste | jelly-home: that was a shoddy turing test |
| 17:56.31 | _2_Jessica | thanks |
| 17:56.54 | nonconvergent | Trieste: It means that you install to a user's directory, and set up env variables in your shell or editor in such a way that point you to the right place |
| 17:57.21 | _2_Jessica | hi |
| 17:57.27 | Trieste | nonconvergent: oh, I see, how would I go about that? |
| 17:57.28 | nonconvergent | Trieste: I use a local cabal for hackage the same for cpan and perl, and a lot of people do the same for rubygems. |
| 17:57.29 | jelly-home | Trieste: there's no reCAPTCHA for irc |
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| 17:59.44 | cybrNaut | this works on ubuntu but not on debian => "aptitude changelog openjdk-6-jdk" => 404 not found on debian |
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| 18:01.11 | jelly-home | cybrNaut: which debian release? |
| 18:01.13 | petn-randall | cybrNaut: And you probably got a proper error message describing what's missing ...? |
| 18:01.26 | cybrNaut | jelly-home: wheezy |
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| 18:01.38 | _2_Jessica | :( |
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| 18:01.53 | cybrNaut | petn-randall: the exact message is "E: Couldn't find a changelog for openjdk-6-jdk" |
| 18:02.02 | petn-randall | cybrNaut: Nothing more? |
| 18:02.03 | cybrNaut | (that's after the 404 error) |
| 18:02.20 | cybrNaut | this is the 404 => "E: Changelog download failed: 404 Not Found" |
| 18:02.28 | glasspinne | exit |
| 18:02.36 | jelly-home | cybrNaut: changelog links are often broken for security and NMU builds |
| 18:02.53 | jelly-home | and binary-only rebuilds |
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| 18:03.06 | nonconvergent | Any idea about improving battery life on my laptop? |
| 18:03.43 | petn-randall | cybrNaut: I get 'E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list', after I did that it works fine. |
| 18:04.21 | abrotman | nonconvergent: powertop |
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| 18:05.08 | cybrNaut | petn-randall: i didn't get that message. and i do have some deb-src lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 18:05.48 | cybrNaut | jelly-home: well in this case it seems i'm malconfigured, since petn-randall was able to get a log |
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| 18:06.29 | jelly-home | cybrNaut: you might just need to do an update |
| 18:06.56 | cybrNaut | petn-randall: did you already update to 6b31-1.13.3-1~deb7u1? |
| 18:07.01 | cybrNaut | yeah, i was just thinking that |
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| 18:07.20 | cybrNaut | but that's kinda putting the horse before the carriage |
| 18:07.37 | jelly-home | ,v openjdk-6-jdk |
| 18:07.38 | judd | Package: openjdk-6-jdk on i386 -- squeeze: 6b18-1.8.13-0+squeeze2; wheezy: 6b27-1.12.5-1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 6b27-1.12.6-1~deb6u1; squeeze-security: 6b31-1.13.3-1~deb6u1; wheezy-security: 6b31-1.13.3-1~deb7u1; jessie: 6b31-1.13.3-1; sid: 6b31-1.13.3-1 |
| 18:08.01 | cybrNaut | what if the changelog says "this update will mess up your system"? :) it will be too late if I install first |
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| 18:08.24 | Nik05 | apt-listchanges |
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| 18:09.05 | delez | zzz |
| 18:09.10 | cybrNaut | Nik05: are you saying I need to download the deb file w/out installing it, and run apt-listchanges on it? seems plausible |
| 18:09.28 | cybrNaut | i'll try that |
| 18:09.40 | Nik05 | huh what no |
| 18:09.50 | Nik05 | 20:08 < cybrNaut> what if the changelog says "this update will mess up your system"? :) it will be too late if I install first |
| 18:10.01 | Nik05 | there is apt-listchanges, which lists changelog before installing |
| 18:10.51 | cybrNaut | Nik05: i tried apt-listchanges before i tried "aptitude changelog". apt-listchanges needs a deb file, it seems, while "aptitude changelog" does not |
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| 18:11.21 | jelly-home | cybrNaut: I haven't upgraded this wheezy machine yet, so "aptitude changelog openjdk-6-jdk" shows the previous version. An explicit "aptitude changelog openjdk-6-jdk=6b31-1.13.3-1~deb7u1" fails for me as wel |
| 18:11.24 | cybrNaut | Nik05: but it's "aptitude changelog" that's giving me problems (apparently due to a broken URL) |
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| 18:12.14 | jelly-home | cybrNaut: the fact is those changelogs are often broken, rely on apt-listchanges but not on aptitude changelog |
| 18:12.30 | Nik05 | cybrNaut if you install apt-listchanges it will install a hook to apt, that when installing something it will call apt-listchagnes to show you the changelog |
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| 18:13.10 | Nik05 | but if you ujst want to read the changelog: aptitude changelog foo |
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| 18:13.39 | cybrNaut | Nik05: i already have apt-listchanges installed |
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| 18:13.46 | Trieste | um, say I use armel debian, and somebody compiled a binary for armhf debian - would I then get a "no such file or directory" error when I tried to run it? |
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| 18:14.07 | Brigo | Trieste, may be. |
| 18:14.11 | Trieste | dammit. |
| 18:14.34 | Nik05 | depends what is missing |
| 18:15.07 | jelly-home | Trieste: definitely yes. multiarch or separate armhf chroot would be required to run a dynamically linked armhf binary |
| 18:16.14 | Trieste | *sigh* |
| 18:16.17 | jelly-home | the fact your platform doesn't support debian armhf only complicates things for multiarch... so it'd probably be easier to set up a raspbian chroot |
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| 18:17.21 | Trieste | will it work with the same kernel though? |
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| 18:19.15 | Trieste | or is that what qemu is for? |
| 18:19.16 | jelly-home | good question. Presumably the kernel has to support both at some level. |
| 18:19.44 | jelly-home | my kernel seems to support amd64 and i386 userspace at the same time. It's magic! |
| 18:19.52 | jelly-home | and/or friendship. |
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| 18:24.04 | liqu1d | Is the current version pf OpenSSL in the stable branch effected by heartbleed? |
| 18:24.09 | liqu1d | *of |
| 18:24.12 | abrotman | no |
| 18:24.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell liqu1d about dsa2896 |
| 18:24.40 | abrotman | It was, it's been patched |
| 18:24.53 | woshty | What is the improvement with using autossh instead of a while loop? |
| 18:24.57 | liqu1d | Cool, nice job debian devs :) |
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| 18:25.37 | AnimalFarmPig | Hi. My old ThinkPad X61 has finally died. I'm looking at switching to a Dell Latitude. Small question-- I really like using middle click and the trackpoint to scroll through documents. Can one configure the middle-click and trackpoint to do this on Dell Latitudes? |
| 18:25.40 | jelly-home | woshty: it gets less confused |
| 18:26.12 | jelly-home | recovers faster in case of network disconnects |
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| 18:27.43 | woshty | jelly-home: I am looking for something to mainly reconnect after suspend. Are you using it? |
| 18:28.14 | jelly-home | woshty: it works for that. |
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| 18:28.58 | jelly-home | unlike my work vpn, which still runs in, basically, a while loop |
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| 18:56.07 | jelly-home | doebi: presumably it's buggy. Which debian release are you using? |
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| 18:58.11 | doebi | jelly-home: jessie |
| 18:58.28 | cybrNaut | i downloaded the .deb file and ran => apt-listchanges openjdk-6-jdk_6b31-1.13.3-1~deb7u1_amd64.deb |
| 18:58.38 | cybrNaut | i only got => Reading changelogs... Done |
| 18:58.45 | cybrNaut | no changes shown |
| 18:58.53 | jelly-home | doebi: testing, huh? Is the bug reported already? |
| 18:59.11 | doebi | jelly-home: dunno, thats what i wanted to find out here^^ |
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| 19:00.06 | jelly-home | doebi: oh... haven't heard about it. This channel is mostly about the stable release |
| 19:00.10 | jelly-home | !debian-next |
| 19:00.11 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
| 19:00.41 | jelly-home | doebi: try there. And do check http://bugs.debian.org/consolekite as well. |
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| 19:00.55 | jelly-home | typos notwithstanding |
| 19:00.59 | doebi | k, thx |
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| 19:05.16 | ajwak95 | hey guys, i've got a question |
| 19:05.37 | ajwak95 | im on debian 7.4.0 and xen networking just does not seem to work |
| 19:05.40 | ajwak95 | so |
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| 19:05.50 | ajwak95 | what information should I look at/for to file a bug report |
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| 19:17.38 | liqu1d | ajwak95, I have no clue as to what Xen networking is, but are you on the stable version? Also, you may want to upgrade to debian 7.5 |
| 19:17.56 | ajwak95 | yes, I am. is 7.5 out? |
| 19:18.00 | liqu1d | Yes |
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| 19:18.23 | ajwak95 | oh okay |
| 19:18.26 | ajwak95 | i will try that |
| 19:18.45 | liqu1d | Yeah it came out yesterday LD |
| 19:18.47 | liqu1d | *:D |
| 19:19.06 | ajwak95 | noice will have to grab me an iso |
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| 19:19.39 | liqu1d | you can always do aapt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:20.08 | liqu1d | sorry *apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 19:21.10 | somiaj | though wheezy upgrades should only need 'upgrade' |
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| 19:26.39 | threexk | hello. Will the latest i386 image work for installing on a non-PAE system? |
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| 19:28.51 | S4nD3r | just to say... I got to install CUDA and nvidia driver to CUDA programming. but I needed to format and reinstall debian. |
| 19:29.58 | mentor | That seems unlikely |
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| 19:39.34 | Imperius | I've received new updates today and seems like kernel wont upgrade http://pastebin.com/0qcMT5XM |
| 19:40.25 | nullA_ | fraujansen: easiest way is may be to put a '#' character on the start of every line in the password.txt |
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| 19:44.47 | S4nD3r | The only problem.. I lost video effects. :D |
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| 19:58.55 | orbisvicis | whatever implements /etc/networks/interfaces, does it log somewhere, and what would it say (for grep) |
| 19:59.37 | orbisvicis | and what would cause a physical interface to be mising from bridge_ports 1/2 the time (like some race condition) |
| 20:00.36 | AnimalFarmPig | threexk, I'm just curious, what x86 processor are you running that doesn't support PAE? Sounds like you've got some cool hardware, whatever it is. |
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| 20:01.38 | PryMar56 | orbisvicis, power saving behavior in bios? |
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| 20:05.14 | orbisvicis | PryMar56: no not a laptop, and eth0 is present post-boot (just not bridged) |
| 20:05.46 | orbisvicis | *always |
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| 20:10.21 | AnimalFarmPig | threexk, I don't have any non-PAE hardware handy to test, but looks like you can use linux-image-486 for non-PAE systems. I would guess that it's the default kernel for the i386 installer, but I don't know, or know how to check. |
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| 20:25.34 | flajsev | I've got a computer of which the hardware has once been contaminated with a creamy liquid. From thenceon, no problems seemed to occur due to this but now it sometimes behaves in a strange behavior. Can I somehow find out whether it's a hardware problem? Is there software which checks hardware for "sanity" or so? |
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| 20:27.46 | centrx | flajsev, You can look at the dmesg log for kernel notices about hardware problems |
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| 20:28.07 | centrx | flajsev, You can also check your RAM with memtest86 |
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| 20:28.21 | centrx | flajsev, You can check your hard drive with a fsck I suppose |
| 20:29.35 | flajsev | centrx: what shall I grep the dmesg output for to find hardware problems? |
| 20:30.05 | centrx | flajsev, I don't know, I would just read it |
| 20:30.16 | centrx | flajsev, Many lines are similar |
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| 20:31.05 | centrx | flajsev, For example, you might have a device repeatedly disconnecting and then being found |
| 20:31.58 | flajsev | centrx: it's more like that a part of the mainboard might function unproperly |
| 20:32.05 | centrx | flajsev, Also, the cause of the "strange behavior" may be software-related |
| 20:32.46 | flajsev | centrx: I know, that's why I am looking for software that does hardware tests (like memtest for RAM) |
| 20:32.54 | centrx | flajsev, Based only on what you've said here, you seem to be speculating with unlikely things, if the machine was working after it had liquid fall on it |
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| 20:33.09 | centrx | flajsev, hdparm might have a test with it |
| 20:33.59 | flajsev | centrx: I said from the beginning that I am not sure and so I am asking here to find out what programs might check whether my assumptions might be correct or not. What's wrong with it? |
| 20:34.03 | centrx | flajsev, I would think your mainboard functioning improperly would cause a kernel oops and a hard crash of the system |
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| 20:34.29 | centrx | flajsev, What is the strange behavior? |
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| 20:34.46 | trampel | ("creamy liquid"? [shrug]) |
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| 20:36.11 | centrx | "My computer isn't working properly...Must have been that creamy liquid from a year ago" |
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| 20:36.47 | flajsev | centrx: different stuff, like not starting a program except when instructed a second or third time, when browsing, first telling that server were not found, immediately after it works |
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| 20:37.56 | centrx | flajsev, Those also sound like things that could happen if your computer were running slowly or your network connection is finicky |
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| 20:38.27 | centrx | flajsev, You could look for tools that test your network card/connection |
| 20:39.01 | centrx | flajsev, What does "not starting a program except when instructed mean" anyway. What exactly are you doing? Stop being so vague |
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| 20:39.22 | alusion | I'm doing a debian install with full disk encryption, -- how do I expand my root partition during installation so it has enough space? |
| 20:39.27 | flajsev | centrx: when did I say for sure that it must have been that creamy liquid? (it has actually been a few weeks ago) I am seriously looking for help and you are mocking me? Behavior I wouldn't have expected... |
| 20:39.33 | alusion | its much harder to expand root after install |
| 20:40.07 | Imperius | so i managed to fix my previous issue and im facing new one... fuse drivers wont load /var/log/messages spews > fuse: Unknown symbol nosteal_pipe_buf_ops (err 0) |
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| 20:43.35 | Gunni | do you guys have a pastebin that allows more than 150 KB? |
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| 20:44.21 | Gunni | i have a syslog that i need support with and it's 3.2 MB |
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| 20:48.43 | RoyK | Gunni: just gzip it and upload it somewhere |
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| 20:51.18 | Gunni | I have a weeeird network issue currently happening every 2 days or so. It happens like this, everything is purring along nicely, and all of a sudden the computer vanishes from the net, i go to the computer and there is no internet, it has an ip address but nothing going in or out but arp requests which go unanswered. To solve the problem i have to run "/etc/init.d/networking restart", doing so solves the p |
| 20:51.18 | Gunni | roblem but is quite annoying to have to do. Here is the syslog stuff generated when i perform that command, nothing is logged when the connection is lost (warning >3 MB) https://kjarni.cc/stuff/syslog.txt |
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| 20:53.02 | Quibus | good night |
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| 20:56.43 | trampel | Gunni: i'd wildly look at DHCP refresh. but then i'm just shooting from the hip. |
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| 20:57.19 | Gunni | trampel, that would not stop the 10.10.10.* network from working, that's a static ip |
| 20:57.38 | trampel | Gunni: and wouldn't effect the DNS? |
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| 20:58.14 | Gunni | what does this have to do with dns? |
| 20:58.33 | trampel | what does "vanishes from the net" mean in your context? |
| 20:59.13 | trampel | again, i'm just guessing. i'll stop it now. |
| 20:59.57 | Gunni | trampel, it stops responding to any requests, and any requests it performs are unanswered and it just starts sending arp requests that are then not answered |
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| 21:01.27 | trampel | well that's a bit different than i'd interpret as "vanishes from the net". given that new bit of info, you've of course swapped out all the cables? |
| 21:02.56 | Gunni | trampel, yes |
| 21:03.22 | Gunni | also, would a cable issue be solved by "reloading the network"? |
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| 21:03.52 | trampel | only if one wiggled the bad cable by typing the command. (don't laugh! i've see it happen) |
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| 21:04.02 | trampel | s/see/seen/ |
| 21:04.26 | Gunni | that's funny, but no, i switched all cables, didn't help |
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| 21:04.53 | loukiluk | Hello |
| 21:05.30 | loukiluk | I have a problem when I want to open USB-Key folder. |
| 21:05.35 | LtL | Gunni: turn off avahi-daemon see if that changes anything. |
| 21:05.39 | loukiluk | my USB_Key* |
| 21:06.20 | loukiluk | So I tried with the terminal, and I got this error : |
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| 21:06.30 | loukiluk | glibtop: Non-standard uts for running kernel: |
| 21:06.32 | loukiluk | release 3.11-2-486=3.11.0 gives version code 199424 |
| 21:06.33 | loukiluk | (gksudo:10203): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed |
| 21:06.34 | Gunni | LtL, done, but it can take a few days to see if any changes worked, so... |
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| 21:09.11 | loukiluk | So I tried with sudo rights, but same thing. I'm on a normal user account and I have no problem when I do this with a administrator account. |
| 21:09.30 | trampel | Gunni: certainly sounds like an annoying situation. step one for stupid-ol-me would be to note as carefully as possible if the down-age happens -regularly- and at what interval. set up another computer to ping it every 23 minutes (zB) |
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| 21:10.26 | Gunni | trampel, yeah, i tried leaving it running with a tcpdump to file until the net stopped working, didn't get any useful info there |
| 21:11.18 | Gunni | it's sometimes in the morning, sometimes in the evening, it "feels" random |
| 21:11.23 | trampel | so (for foolish me) regular would imply high-level software problems, irregular might be hardware. do you trust your nic card and the like. |
| 21:11.48 | Gunni | trampel, that's one of the things i switched first too :P |
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| 21:13.25 | Gunni | and i wouldn't call you foolish, these kinds of issues are frustraiting |
| 21:14.37 | trampel | oh yes, they're almost the definition of frustrating (in our lines of work). also be sure to try to log all the other processes running on it. |
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| 21:15.15 | trampel | don't know if this is a server, but what if accounting does it's backup about that time? |
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| 21:16.18 | Gunni | it is a server, and backups have not been affected, except that they arent uploaded offsite until it gets back up if they happen while it's offline |
| 21:17.11 | Gunni | and the backups are done close to 20:00 in the evening, havent had crashes during or close to that time yet |
| 21:17.50 | trampel | of course you *could* put "/etc/init.d/networking restart" on a 217 minute cron job... but that's cheating. |
| 21:17.58 | Gunni | hahahaha |
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| 21:20.01 | trampel | i wouldn't wait too long before you go for swapping the motherboard. (once had a early USB-3 gigabyte board which would reset itself for no @#$ reason everytime some component got a little warm) |
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| 21:21.56 | Gunni | trampel, could it be an issue with the forcedeth driver? |
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| 21:22.17 | Gunni | according to what i'm reading it's a reverse engineered driver for nvidia network cards |
| 21:23.22 | loukiluk | Can anyone help me or I should wait tomorrow ? |
| 21:23.31 | trampel | i'm certainly no expert on the forcedeth issue, but wouldn't that get back to my question about DHCP ... and you said it was a static IP ...? |
| 21:24.00 | Gunni | trampel, the interface has two ips, one from dhcp, and one is static |
| 21:24.27 | Gunni | the address from dhcp is kind of static, but i have to use dhcp or the acl on the isp network blocks me when the lease runs out |
| 21:24.36 | loukiluk | Ok, I think that you're too occupied ^^ Good night. |
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| 21:25.28 | trampel | loukiluk: what does lsusb say? |
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| 21:25.48 | trampel | Gunni: so it could be DHCP refresh? |
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| 21:26.06 | threexk | hello. What is the package name of the Wheezy text installer? I have a bug to possibly report. |
| 21:26.14 | Gunni | that's one thing i considered, but then why would the 10.10.10.* network stop working too? |
| 21:26.35 | threexk | (license agreements of non-free firmware are not fully displayed) |
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| 21:27.17 | trampel | Gunni: when it is 'stopped' does it not even answer a ping? |
| 21:27.22 | blink | Boot error 'probing for EDD (edd=off to disable)' |
| 21:27.52 | Gunni | trampel, indeed, no responses from the outside, and it is not able to reach anything itself |
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| 21:29.55 | trampel | Gunni: well you got me stumped (which isn't saying much) if it can't ping its own router (by IP, for instance) and software refresh will bring it back ... well then i've really no clue. |
| 21:30.37 | Gunni | trampel, don't feel bad, i have had many people try to solve this, none have succeeded |
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| 21:30.56 | trampel | i'd probably -try- a full backup and rebuild the system. but even that's pretty nuts. |
| 21:31.08 | Gunni | even tried a sysadmin from a major isp here try, and he was stumped |
| 21:31.32 | Gunni | s/try// |
| 21:31.49 | Gunni | trampel, i'd prefer to avoid that if possible :P |
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| 21:34.54 | trampel | Gunni: the only other thing i'd check is that the correct nic device driver is being used. once and while the hardware makers will tell for instance microsoft something that isn't caught by the usually excellent linux device driver crews. |
| 21:35.14 | trampel | that is, consider swapping the nic card with a very different nic card. |
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| 21:36.32 | Gunni | trampel, i'll try that |
| 21:36.36 | trampel | ok, it's sleepy-time for this sad shepard. good night you princes. |
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| 21:38.06 | serotoninaeh | hello |
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| 21:39.45 | serotoninaeh | Hi ask me to put in the htaccess the following line:. SetEnv RUBYLIB $ DUDLE_INSTALLATION_PATH |
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| 21:40.20 | Gunni | yeah i guess i'm gonna go sleep too, gnite, thanks for the help for now :) |
| 21:40.34 | wols | serotoninaeh: please put the following line into htaccess: . SetEnv RUBYLIB $ DUDLE_INSTALLATION_PATH |
| 21:40.47 | serotoninaeh | would have to place the following? : SetEnv RUBYLIB var / www / Dudle... |
| 21:40.48 | wols | serotoninaeh: why did I have to ask you? |
| 21:41.02 | serotoninaeh | would have to place the following? : SetEnv RUBYLIB var/www/Dudle |
| 21:42.29 | serotoninaeh | wols: is the same?? $DUDLE_INSTALLATION_PATH = /var/www/dudle ? |
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| 22:14.24 | buero | Hello |
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| 22:15.14 | buero | Is their a Debian ISO that installs the MATE desktop environment or at least the MATE window manager? |
| 22:15.14 | buero | Like how their is a Trisquel ISO that just installs Gnome. |
| 22:15.43 | somiaj | no, mate is still fairly new in debian and I am not sure that the testing/unstable version of it is fully complete |
| 22:15.44 | bdog7 | no mate is not in Wheezy |
| 22:15.58 | buero | But why |
| 22:16.18 | bdog7 | it didn't make the freeze for wheezy |
| 22:16.58 | somiaj | buero: wheezy is a frozen system, I don't think it was even in debian during the freeze, but at the time it wasn't in a usable state to make it into wheezy. |
| 22:17.06 | buero | I don't understand how I am suppose to install other desktop environments for window managers, when I do not a net-install and don't choose a desktop environment I cannot get any wireless connection in the terminal. |
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| 22:17.39 | somiaj | buero: your wireless card most likely needs firmware, tehre are non-free firmware images out there that might work for you |
| 22:17.45 | buero | No it doesn't |
| 22:18.06 | bdog7 | what wireless card do you have? |
| 22:18.14 | buero | THis: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-pcie-card-gnu-linux-v4-tpe-n300pcie4 |
| 22:18.17 | somiaj | buero: do you have one of those newer intel wifi's that need a newer kernel to work (though I belive the drivers are now backported into wheezy's 7.5 kernel) |
| 22:18.46 | buero | The link above is my wireless networking card |
| 22:19.00 | buero | When I install trisquel command line I get wireless connection in the command line |
| 22:19.30 | buero | Also when I don't choose a desktop environment in a Debian net-install some commands such as "vim" aren't recognised |
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| 22:20.46 | somiaj | buero: vim is not part of a desktop enviorement it is just another text editor. Install it if you want it. |
| 22:20.54 | WormFood | how do I get the debian specific patches to a particular package? |
| 22:21.02 | buero | I know, but it should work in the command line |
| 22:21.03 | somiaj | buero: nano is the default console editor in debian, but vim is easily installed |
| 22:21.10 | buero | Okay |
| 22:21.12 | somiaj | buero: it will only work in the command line if you install it |
| 22:21.25 | buero | I cannot install vim as I do not have Internet connection from the command line |
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| 22:21.42 | somiaj | WormFood: the source packge has both an original copy of the source and the patches (usually stored in debian/pathces), just grab a copy of the source package and look |
| 22:21.44 | buu | Does that mean you have internet connection from something other than the command line? |
| 22:21.46 | buero | I cannot figure out how to configure a connection, such as in arch-linux you can do wifi-menu |
| 22:21.49 | abrotman | nvi? vim-tiny? |
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| 22:21.57 | buero | I'll try to explain this better, sorry. |
| 22:22.32 | WormFood | ok somiaj, then how to I download the source package for a branch I'm not currently running. I want the patch set for testing/jessie |
| 22:22.35 | somiaj | buero: you can configure interfaces with the command lined commands ip/ifconfig/iwconfig or you can use /etc/network/interfaces. If you like network-manager there is a cli app for that to, though I don't know much about it. |
| 22:22.38 | buero | When I do a Debian net-installation and I get to the part where I choose what software I wont installed, I de-select a desktop environment and finish the installation. |
| 22:22.38 | buero | From there I boot into the command line |
| 22:23.04 | somiaj | WormFood: you can add a deb-src line for any repo you want. That is safe as source packages dont' actually install anyting, just download source |
| 22:23.20 | buu | buero: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
| 22:23.25 | buero | somiaj: I found a tutorial on that, but the tutorial told me to use VIM, when I tried opening the file in vi and nano it didn't work |
| 22:23.36 | WormFood | sure, that makes sense. But then I need to add another option to apt-get, to get from that repo, right? |
| 22:23.36 | buero | Ok |
| 22:23.43 | buero | This seems an interesting read, thank you |
| 22:24.08 | somiaj | buero: the text editor you use is not a problem, nano would have worked fine if you edited the file correctly |
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| 22:24.18 | somiaj | WormFood: apt-get -t release source source_pkg_name |
| 22:24.25 | WormFood | this is the problem with people blindly following tutorials. Unless your tutorial is on vim, any text editor will work |
| 22:24.35 | buu | buero: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=105173 |
| 22:24.45 | WormFood | thanks somiaj ;) |
| 22:25.08 | buero | somiaj: That was my problem, I was fairly certain I typed in correctly. |
| 22:25.08 | buero | Anyway the Debian wiki tutorial / forums seems different, so I will try that |
| 22:25.11 | buero | Thank you for much |
| 22:25.43 | WormFood | I don't need a deb-src line, for security.debian.org, right? |
| 22:25.57 | buu | http://linuxcommando.blogspot.com/2013/10/how-to-connect-to-wpawpa2-wifi-network.html |
| 22:25.59 | buu | I can go on! |
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| 22:26.18 | somiaj | buero: note at the end of the netinstall (or basically any install) a program called tasksel is ran. That is what allows you to pick various tasks (such as desktop). The desktop task is gnome, but I recall there being an other menu and you can select alternative desktops from there. |
| 22:26.40 | somiaj | WormFood: you only need them for the place you want to get source code |
| 22:26.52 | buero | If know how to choose different desktop environments, I just want to install a window manager |
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| 22:27.14 | pingfloyd | install a meta-package for them |
| 22:27.16 | somiaj | WormFood: if you need sorce code from security, in your example you probably only need a deb-src line for jessie and don't have any others in there, then apt-get source foo will get the right package. |
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| 22:28.29 | somiaj | buero: windowmanagers aren't a complete desktop worth of software, just a single piece, you don't need a full task for that, just apt-get install the one you want. |
| 22:28.48 | somiaj | buero: I was just informing you the other desktops can be chosen during the installer, window managers I think you install y ousrelf. |
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| 22:28.55 | buero | I know, but my problem is I cannot do apt-get install as I have no Internet connection |
| 22:28.56 | jhutchins | On a new wheezy server build, I have uncommented the stanzas that are supposed to enable spamassassin, and when I restart exim it says the uncommented commands are invalid. |
| 22:29.13 | jhutchins | So did wheezy ship with invalid configuration files for exim? |
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| 22:29.59 | abrotman | jhutchins: probably put them in a pastebin so others can review (if possible) |
| 22:31.05 | abrotman | "them" being the config files |
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| 22:34.06 | WormFood | somiaj, I got it working, and installed. Thanks for your help. |
| 22:34.43 | somiaj | WormFood: (: you're welcome |
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| 22:45.07 | ska | Can I dd any debian iso onto a USB? |
| 22:45.50 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:46.01 | abrotman | They should all be hybrid images |
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| 23:01.53 | jhutchins | Turns out it's a bogus error message, it should say "not valid for daemon-light, please install daemon-heavy. Stupid. |
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| 23:06.36 | stokaz | hi |
| 23:06.51 | stokaz | I have a problem with libudev0 |
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| 23:07.33 | RustyShackleford | i can't seem to find a debian 7.5 installation iso |
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| 23:07.50 | atannus | Does anyone have octave installed on testing? I'm getting segmentation faults on 3.8.1 with code that (unaltered) ran fine two weeks ago. |
| 23:08.11 | stokaz | I can't install it in debian testing, and after apt-get dist-upgrade apt has removed chromium and libudev0 |
| 23:08.11 | RustyShackleford | i guess it was released yesterday, but you should be able to download it, right? |
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| 23:08.33 | stokaz | now I can't install chromium and I can't find libudev0 in official repositories |
| 23:08.35 | dondelelcaro | atannus: you can install an older version from snapshots if that would help |
| 23:09.08 | atannus | dondelelcaro, do you happen to have a link with instructions? |
| 23:09.24 | abrotman | RustyShackleford: not quite yet, usually takes a day or two |
| 23:09.25 | dondelelcaro | !snapshots |
| 23:09.26 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 23:09.39 | abrotman | dpkg: tell RustyShackleford about point release |
| 23:09.43 | dondelelcaro | atannus: see above |
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| 23:10.04 | dondelelcaro | atannus: you can see specifically what you've upgraded to see if that helps |
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| 23:12.36 | alusion | I'm doing a debian install with full disk encryption, -- how do I expand my root partition during installation so it has enough space? |
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| 23:13.58 | dondelelcaro | alusion: onto an existing partition? or are you creating an entirely new set of partitions? |
| 23:14.54 | atannus | dondelelcaro, my candidate is this. I just add it do apt sources and install? How doest apt know to install only octave from that? http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20140409T000209Z/ |
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| 23:17.36 | dondelelcaro | atannus: you just add that to your sources.list, and then use aptitude or similar to select the precise version of octave you want |
| 23:17.50 | dondelelcaro | atannus: or use apt-get install octave=preciseversion; |
| 23:18.10 | dondelelcaro | (I suggest aptitude just because it's easier to use the curses interface to select the right version) |
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| 23:20.14 | alusion | woohoo |
| 23:20.29 | alusion | dondelelcaro |
| 23:20.34 | alusion | I'm doing a fresh install on a new hdd |
| 23:21.17 | alusion | do I have to prepartition ? I would rather use guided partitioning but I want to make sure my root partition has more than 10gb |
| 23:21.26 | alusion | I ran out of space very quickly |
| 23:21.27 | dondelelcaro | alusion: OK, so in that case you generally do luks+lvm with an unencrypted boot |
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| 23:21.43 | dondelelcaro | alusion: have the installer to guided partitioning with LVM |
| 23:22.03 | alusion | so I prepartition it? |
| 23:22.10 | dondelelcaro | alusion: no. let the installer do it |
| 23:22.19 | dondelelcaro | alusion: but if you use LVM, it's trivial to resize partitions if you need to |
| 23:23.03 | wolfmitchell | so, trying to run pcsx2 on x64, I was able to compile it but when i try to install libgl1-mesa-swx11:i386, apt-get wants to remove some other packages that I need... can I still install it and keep those packages? |
| 23:23.11 | alusion | I use LVM |
| 23:23.27 | alusion | I wanna expand my root partition on my current install |
| 23:23.58 | alusion | so ... |
| 23:24.05 | dondelelcaro | alusion: if you're using lvm, then assuming you have free space, it's pretty trivial |
| 23:24.14 | alusion | the installation uses my whole disk |
| 23:24.21 | alusion | which complicates the procedure |
| 23:24.25 | nonconvergent | alusion: how many partitions do you have? what's mounted to them? |
| 23:24.31 | dondelelcaro | alusion: if you don't, you have to shrink an existing partition, and then expand the other partition onto the free space |
| 23:24.36 | nonconvergent | Just a root and a home? |
| 23:24.38 | alusion | yeah |
| 23:24.40 | alusion | Just root and home |
| 23:24.54 | atannus | dondelelcaro, interesting, the version number has not changed. Perhaps this is a problem with one of the libraries it uses? That would be harder to track down, I imagine? |
| 23:25.01 | nonconvergent | Yeah, I've filled 30GB root before. |
| 23:25.07 | alusion | So I have to shrink my home |
| 23:25.09 | nonconvergent | A lot of stuff can accumulate in /var |
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| 23:25.12 | alusion | Then expand my root |
| 23:25.20 | alusion | is that correct? |
| 23:25.26 | nonconvergent | and /usr holds most of your installed stuff |
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| 23:27.56 | dondelelcaro | alusion: right |
| 23:28.24 | tbltoptennis | Hey all, quick question. I had a filed netinst install; missing firmware. I downloaded the .deb and installed with dpkg, but I need to restart the tasksel system. I tried just running tasksel, but no go, just a blank screen. What do I do to pick up the installation of the system from where I left off in netinst? |
| 23:28.31 | tbltoptennis | s/filed/failed/g |
| 23:28.38 | alusion | okay..i will backup incase of data lost |
| 23:29.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell tbltoptennis about firmware images |
| 23:30.28 | tbltoptennis | abrotman: I have the firmware installed via dpkg, no problem. I was hoping to restart the tasksel process without having to restart the entire installation. |
| 23:30.46 | abrotman | not sure it works that way .. look for a Back |
| 23:30.58 | dondelelcaro | alusion: always a good idea. The procedure is pretty simple once you've done that; you just go to single user, umount /home; resize2fs /dev/mapper/yourhomedevice SIZEOFHOME; lvextend /dev/mapper/yourdevice -L SIZEOFNEWHOME+2G: resize2fs lvextend /dev/mapper/yourdevice; lvextend -L newrootsize /dev/mapper/yourrootdevice; resize2fs /dev/mapper/yourrootdevice; |
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| 23:33.36 | nevyn | wat? |
| 23:34.17 | nevyn | oh. shrink |
| 23:34.23 | nevyn | still isn't online. |
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| 23:35.52 | dondelelcaro | yeah, you can't do online shrinking |
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| 23:48.57 | alusion | before doing a fresh install dondelelcaro |
| 23:49.01 | alusion | do I have to prepartition |
| 23:49.07 | alusion | so I have room for expansion |
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| 23:49.39 | centrx | installer has a partitioner |
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