| 00:00.11 | SynrG | this was not efi, though |
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| 00:01.05 | GJdan | can I pass both to grub at once? lawl :( |
| 00:01.18 | somiaj | yea in efi you only need grub in the efi partition, you don't want to put it on the mbr since there isn't one on a gtp partition table |
| 00:01.41 | GJdan | at first I dd'd them and had this issue, so I thought maybe it didn't like the identical uuid. So then I tried doing it seperately, but the problem appears to still exist |
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| 00:03.57 | drs | when a new wheezy is released, does the version of iceweasel also get updated or does it stay at ESR? (i'm new to debian) |
| 00:04.24 | Evropi | I thought it only gets security updates |
| 00:04.31 | Evropi | unless you've enabled that other repo |
| 00:04.38 | Evropi | like all other programs in stable |
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| 00:05.23 | drs | ok thanks.. i was just curious. |
| 00:06.26 | afidegnum | hello, anyone familiar with imagemack or GD library via SSH? I want to reduce the image size |
| 00:06.33 | afidegnum | and change its color |
| 00:06.50 | civillian | weird issue here - 'lsof -n' |
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| 00:06.55 | civillian | ...hangs my box |
| 00:06.59 | saintgermain | Hello I am on Debian Testing and I have a permission problem when pluging an ext3 USB stick. I have removed the USB entries in /etc/fstab but the USB stick is always mounted without user read/write (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2). Can someone help me ? |
| 00:07.04 | civillian | wtf |
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| 00:08.44 | jpinx | civillian: check the permissions of the stick's fs |
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| 00:09.05 | civillian | jpinx: stick? |
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| 00:09.14 | civillian | jpinx: possibly a stale NFS mount |
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| 00:09.32 | jpinx | civillian: sorry meant for saintgermain |
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| 00:09.35 | civillian | jpinx: lsof runs open("/proc/mounts", O_RDONLY) |
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| 00:10.07 | civillian | jpinx: then lots of these: rt_sigaction(SIGALRM... |
| 00:10.10 | SynrG | Evropi: except security has recently relaxed the "no new versions" specifically for iceweasel |
| 00:10.14 | SynrG | ,v iceweasel |
| 00:10.15 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2; wheezy-security: 24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2; jessie: 24.4.0esr-1; sid: 24.4.0esr-1; experimental: 28.0-1 |
| 00:10.36 | SynrG | Evropi: look at earlier point releases. they had an earlier esr. |
| 00:11.22 | SynrG | so the answer is "yes and yes" (yes, it gets updated, if esr changes to a new version ... but yes, it stays at esr) |
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| 00:11.50 | SynrG | (but drs has left :P) |
| 00:11.58 | somiaj | this change to secuiry upgrading to the new esr is still quite new in debian, wheezy aws not gonna do this initially. |
| 00:12.09 | saintgermain | jpinx: *slap foregead* you were right, permissions were incorrect ! Thanks a lot |
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| 00:12.54 | Evropi | I strongly disagree on Debian's policy as well and if you like firefox, you should use upstream |
| 00:12.56 | Evropi | see http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/spyware-used-by-governments-poses-as-firefox-and-mozilla-is-angry/ |
| 00:13.01 | Evropi | the trademark restrictions are there for a reason |
| 00:13.38 | Evropi | so if you want the latest and greatest, use firefox :D |
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| 00:14.16 | somiaj | Evropi: that is bad advise, use mozilla.debian.net |
| 00:15.25 | somiaj | Funny though I belive the original reason mozilla wouldn't let debian use it's trademakrs was partly because of the age of our packages, which is no longer the case |
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| 00:18.27 | afidegnum | hi, please I am stuck in this |
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| 00:18.46 | afidegnum | while ooking at this formula, convert example.png -resize 200 example.png I would like to rezise more than 2000 images from a wide range of sub folders. what is the command to use please? |
| 00:18.55 | afidegnum | this is using imagemagick |
| 00:19.12 | afidegnum | can anyone help? |
| 00:19.17 | somiaj | afidegnum: I would make a new dir, but then use this |
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| 00:19.46 | afidegnum | I would like to preserve the directory and images names since they are already indexed and referrenced |
| 00:20.01 | somiaj | afidegnum: so first mkdir newimg, then 'for i in *png; do convert -resize 200 $i newimg/$i; done' |
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| 00:20.31 | somiaj | afidegnum: that will convert all the images in the cwd and put them in the newimg dir with the same name. Check they all convereted right, if they all converted right just mv them on top of the old imgs, mv newimg/* ./ |
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| 00:20.49 | buu | afidegnum: With the proviso that you should always have a back up: |
| 00:20.50 | afidegnum | ok, thanks, |
| 00:21.03 | afidegnum | yes, backup assured, |
| 00:21.05 | afidegnum | meanwhile |
| 00:21.09 | buu | find -iname '*.png' -exec convert {} -resize 200 {} \; |
| 00:21.13 | afidegnum | the image names are not static |
| 00:21.55 | bxh4943 | who cares if it's deprecated as long as it still works |
| 00:21.56 | afidegnum | buu: this seems to click, let me try :) |
| 00:22.51 | afidegnum | buu: but something pertinent |
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| 00:23.10 | afidegnum | I want to apply this settings in all the sub direectories from teh current directory I am in |
| 00:23.14 | mns | win 17 |
| 00:23.38 | buu | You mean all the images in all the sub directories? |
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| 00:24.38 | buu | Oh um |
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| 00:24.56 | afidegnum | yes |
| 00:25.07 | buu | My solution accounts for that |
| 00:25.15 | buu | But you might want to change it to -execdir |
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| 00:27.29 | afidegnum_ | lets say thew curent folder is "/var/www/sites/files/images" now the settings should apply in folder starting from '/var/www/sites/files/images/ads' |
| 00:27.32 | afidegnum_ | 'acnes' |
| 00:27.40 | afidegnum_ | ooooh, I my connection reseted |
| 00:27.46 | afidegnum_ | any past message for me? |
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| 00:29.26 | GJdan | okay I gotta run... but I did find that they all show up in post if I provide the --boorloader-id option and make it something unique |
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| 00:30.45 | afidegnum | buu: u there please? |
| 00:31.07 | afidegnum | can you please post the old formula again? I irc client closed with previous message gone |
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| 00:31.42 | Reelax | Hi, what's the flash plugin path that applications use in Debian ? |
| 00:31.51 | buu | find -iname '*.png' -execdir convert {} -resize 200 {} \; |
| 00:32.07 | Reelax | and is libflashplayer.so is the plugin file ? |
| 00:32.13 | antons | hey who installed NFDUMP/NFSEN before ? |
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| 00:34.54 | SpeakerToMeat | Any idea why libxmlsec can't be installed multiarch? |
| 00:37.34 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 00:41.09 | karlpinc | To build an android app is there a more Debian way than to get the sdk tools from android.com? |
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| 00:43.07 | abrotman | karlpinc: not last I looked |
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| 00:44.46 | SpeakerToMeat | karlpinc: The phases of update are not in sync anyhow, so it's normally afaik better to use the sdk tools provided by google, to update and install them |
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| 00:45.30 | karlpinc | Righto. Off then to figure out what sort of java-ness I'm going to have to install. |
| 00:46.18 | karlpinc | Alternately, I'll give up and just get the binary from google. All I want is something to scp my files off my phone before I flash it. |
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| 00:46.37 | karlpinc | It's starting to seem like a lot of yak shaving. |
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| 00:54.10 | afidegnum | buu: I am facing an error |
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| 00:54.52 | spyder | how can i revert my system to its just installed state? |
| 00:58.16 | karlpinc | spyder: Perhaps by a re-install? |
| 00:58.33 | buu | afidegnum: Just one? |
| 00:59.18 | karlpinc | spyder: What are you trying to do? You can purge a package and then re-install to get your just-installed state for that package. |
| 01:00.00 | spyder | karlpinc: its not feasible as i do not have enough time and my net speed is very slow so it will take a huge amount of time to reinstall |
| 01:00.30 | karlpinc | spyder: I don't suppose you made a backup? |
| 01:00.39 | afidegnum | buu convert: invalid argument for option `-resize': 2×1 @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/2313. |
| 01:00.49 | spyder | karlpinc: no i didn't. |
| 01:00.51 | afidegnum | but I am looking at the mogrify command |
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| 01:02.43 | karlpinc | spyder: Well, what happened. Apt keeps a cache, usually of what you installed so you could, possibly, re-install a lot from a running system. |
| 01:02.45 | spyder | karlpinc: the problem is i have a data card which was connecting to the Internet perfectly before but now it is refusing to connect, but only on debian as it is working fine in windows |
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| 01:03.12 | spyder | if you can help me with it, it will be better |
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| 01:03.48 | spyder | karlpinc: how to search this cache |
| 01:03.54 | karlpinc | A data card? an SD card or what? |
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| 01:04.24 | spyder | karlpinc: a usb 3g gsm modem |
| 01:04.41 | karlpinc | spyder: So, is the goal to get back on the net or to re-initialize? |
| 01:05.17 | spyder | basic goal is to get back to the net |
| 01:05.36 | karlpinc | spyder: You have access to the device now? |
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| 01:07.48 | spyder | yes |
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| 01:08.23 | spyder | i am chatting from the same system via wifi right now |
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| 01:12.34 | afidegnum | how to I run find -iname '*.jpg' to instead look for images from the current directory I am in? |
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| 01:15.39 | abrotman | afidegnum: huh? isn't tah what you're doing? |
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| 01:16.05 | afidegnum | yes, but the output is not what i am getting |
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| 01:17.34 | afidegnum | find -iname '*.jpg' mogrify {} -resize 2x1 {} *.jpg\; find: paths must precede expression: mogrify Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression] |
| 01:18.07 | abrotman | afidegnum: find . (the rest) |
| 01:18.15 | afidegnum | ??? |
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| 01:18.23 | abrotman | !!! |
| 01:18.23 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 01:18.39 | abrotman | find . -iname ... |
| 01:19.59 | zorgshanker | the dot means current directory fyi |
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| 01:20.27 | SirLagz | !!! |
| 01:20.27 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 01:20.28 | afidegnum | well, I want to work on the subdirectories of the current directory |
| 01:20.29 | SirLagz | lol |
| 01:20.50 | SirLagz | afidegnum: find ./*/ ? |
| 01:21.11 | afidegnum | no |
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| 01:21.22 | SirLagz | no what ? |
| 01:21.26 | afidegnum | still targeting the .jpg files |
| 01:21.46 | SirLagz | find ./*/ -iname '*.jpg' then. |
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| 01:26.09 | themill | the . is implicit with GNU find; it's the -exec (or -execdir) that's missing |
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| 01:26.42 | spyder | does debian keep the .deb file of installed package? |
| 01:28.49 | dvs | spyder: /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 01:30.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | so um how bad are these bug fixes in 7.5? |
| 01:31.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | do i need to do this now or can i wait a week? |
| 01:31.35 | dvs | Eryn_1983_FL: Did you fix the heartbleed bug yet? |
| 01:31.42 | SirLagz | Eryn_1983_FL: why do you need to wait a week ? |
| 01:32.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | cause if it breaks something then i am too busy with life+work til then |
| 01:32.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | heartbleed should be done and over with i updated and changes my keys |
| 01:32.57 | SirLagz | right. well if you're running stable, it shouldn't break anything |
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| 01:33.10 | SirLagz | that's the whole point of stable being stable... |
| 01:33.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | true.. i am just being cautious |
| 01:35.12 | spyder | dvs: thansk |
| 01:35.18 | Evropi | how do I burn iso to usb with dd while keeping it writable? |
| 01:35.18 | spyder | *thanks |
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| 01:35.50 | dvs | it worked?!? ;-) |
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| 01:36.35 | dvs | Evropi: Why do you want it writable? |
| 01:37.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | plus there is a kernel update. |
| 01:37.19 | Evropi | to put firmware on it |
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| 01:37.31 | Evropi | but nvm I think I'll just dl the firmware-included vesion |
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| 01:37.35 | Evropi | the kernel broke down completely |
| 01:37.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | those weird me out every time, bring back bad memories. |
| 01:37.45 | Evropi | it won't boot without putting those drivers in during installation |
| 01:37.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.50 | Evropi | panics, total freezeups, etc |
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| 01:37.57 | Evropi | feels like 1999 all over again |
| 01:38.07 | Evropi | Eryn_1983_FL: two words: chinese laptop |
| 01:38.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 01:38.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | is one of those off brand android things? |
| 01:38.36 | Evropi | no brand, mac book air clone |
| 01:39.01 | Evropi | in fact the manual is the apple manual with every instance of "MacBook Air" replaced by "Bozo Notebook or something" |
| 01:39.19 | Evropi | the system didn't even come with os x, lol |
| 01:39.29 | Evropi | and no logo or it wouldn't get through customs |
| 01:39.36 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 01:39.53 | Evropi | it's the lifeblood of hong kong electronics :) |
| 01:40.07 | abrotman | !ot |
| 01:40.08 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 01:40.57 | Evropi | alright alright >.> |
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| 01:44.00 | bato | :) |
| 01:44.17 | spyder | does apt-get delete the .deb package after installing? |
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| 01:45.00 | bato | i think you're thinking of apt-get clean? |
| 01:45.14 | bato | man apt-get is your firend generally |
| 01:45.22 | abrotman | spyder: no .. not by default |
| 01:45.23 | spyder | bato: ok |
| 01:45.33 | spyder | abrotman: ok |
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| 01:46.23 | spyder | at the time of new install how can i make the install take packages for installation from a folder in external hdd? |
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| 01:46.50 | Reelax | this error has anything to do with linux ? |
| 01:46.51 | Reelax | ERROR: NPAPI ERROR: No GTK2 support in this browser! Have version 0 |
| 01:47.59 | abrotman | Reelax: which versoin of linux are you using? |
| 01:48.12 | Reelax | Wheezy 7.5 |
| 01:48.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Reelax about ask |
| 01:49.31 | ToTheInternet | Hi. My sound suddenly stopped working a few days ago. I assume some update broke it, but I can't be sure. 'aplay mysound.wav' makes no sound but does not give an error either. what might be the cause and how can i get my sound to work again? |
| 01:49.47 | Reelax | i get that error in QWebView in Qt programming, i thought it might be a linux problem. |
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| 01:54.56 | spyder | when doing a fresh install of debian via netinstall cd how can i make it to use packages from a folder in external hdd? |
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| 02:01.08 | freebirD2 | I've installed bind, I'm new to this, I'm curious, I know it's cachind DNS names, but is it caching web pages ? if so, where do I see this cache please ? |
| 02:04.01 | abrotman | no, it caches DNS results |
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| 02:05.27 | freebirD2 | abrotman, so bind isn't a proxy that caches web pages ? how can I make a web pages cache ? can I use bind for that ? |
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| 02:06.17 | civillian | freebirD2: you need something like Squid |
| 02:06.54 | freebirD2 | nice, tks you guys |
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| 02:09.36 | linuxuz3r | victim of ssl exploit |
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| 02:09.57 | abrotman | linuxuz3r: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 02:10.36 | linuxuz3r | not now |
| 02:10.47 | linuxuz3r | thanks though |
| 02:12.16 | spyder | when doing a fresh install of debian via netinstall cd how can i make it to use packages from a folder in external hdd? |
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| 02:13.07 | themill | spyder: easiest way is to copy the .debs into /var/cache/apt/archives after you've done the basic install using the cd |
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| 02:19.33 | karlpinc | spyder: Sorry had to go. |
| 02:20.00 | karlpinc | themill: He has them on the system he wants to install onto. |
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| 02:20.57 | themill | karlpinc: oh... "external hdd"? |
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| 02:24.16 | linuxuz3r | how do i watch amazon instant video on debian |
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| 02:24.53 | abrotman | Which plugin does it use? |
| 02:25.00 | spyder | themill: the problem is as i have slow internet speed the initial install will take a long time of about 10 hours and i want to avoid it |
| 02:25.10 | linuxuz3r | silverlight |
| 02:25.19 | abrotman | Oh, silverlight .. probably SOL |
| 02:25.31 | spyder | karlpinc: no problem |
| 02:25.48 | themill | spyder: no, everything for a basic installation is on the cd itself. Everything else is on this other hdd |
| 02:25.53 | abrotman | linuxuz3r: google 'moonlight linux' .. good luck |
| 02:26.30 | spyder | themill: i have a netinstall disk not a ful one |
| 02:26.41 | abrotman | and? |
| 02:26.43 | themill | spyder: yes |
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| 02:28.05 | spyder | themill: when i did the install from it, it took about 10 hours as it had to download a lot of packages to install |
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| 02:28.37 | themill | spyder: so don't ask it to do more than the basic install |
| 02:28.55 | dvs | spyder: uncheck the "desktop environment" option |
| 02:29.04 | spyder | themill: ok will try it |
| 02:29.07 | swordsmanz | in the net installer dose debian desktop eviroment pertain to a desktop environment or the tools used by one ? |
| 02:29.09 | themill | spyder: the netinst can complete without a network connection |
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| 02:29.24 | spyder | gotta go now |
| 02:29.32 | dvs | swordsmanz: it pertains to GNOME |
| 02:29.47 | swordsmanz | EWEWEWEWEW get it away from me |
| 02:29.54 | dvs | heh |
| 02:30.18 | swordsmanz | i think there should be an option there just to autosetup the tools used by one |
| 02:30.27 | spyder | thanks for the help |
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| 02:30.34 | swordsmanz | without ramming in GNOME |
| 02:30.59 | abrotman | swordsmanz: then don't install a desktop, install one later, problem solved |
| 02:30.59 | themill | swordsmanz: what do you mean "the tools used by one"? |
| 02:31.26 | swordsmanz | themill x and audio server ECT. |
| 02:31.56 | linuxuz3r | the ubuntu trusty thar 14.04 is a nice polished distro |
| 02:32.04 | linuxuz3r | unity is fast |
| 02:32.07 | themill | swordsmanz: the installed does give you that as an advanced boot option, or you just do it afterwards |
| 02:32.14 | themill | linuxuz3r: wrong channel. We've been here before. |
| 02:33.03 | linuxuz3r | sorry |
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| 02:33.29 | swordsmanz | hmm i will do it afterwards ... so much to think about |
| 02:34.02 | swordsmanz | making a debian remaster is very non trivial |
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| 02:35.22 | themill | not really worth it either |
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| 02:36.20 | swordsmanz | why not ? |
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| 02:37.20 | themill | before the point where it would become useful to have a custom installer disc, you'd have switched over to pxe boot with preseeding (with fai/chef/puppet etc doing hard work) |
| 02:37.56 | swordsmanz | what about end user ? |
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| 03:06.02 | linuxuz3r | how do i donate money to debian |
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| 03:07.26 | centrx | linuxuz3r, https://www.debian.org/donations |
| 03:08.02 | centrx | linuxuz3r, Software in the Public Interest is a non-profit corporation created for handling Debian funds |
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| 03:09.15 | linuxuz3r | ok |
| 03:09.41 | linuxuz3r | i hope my hardware doesnt die when i use debian |
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| 03:10.11 | linuxuz3r | my video card got messed up after reseting from suspend in ubuntu |
| 03:10.32 | linuxuz3r | i will donate to debian if all of the stuff that i need works well |
| 03:10.44 | linuxuz3r | centrx can you suggest a donation amount |
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| 03:10.53 | centrx | 1 million dollars |
| 03:11.02 | dvs | Dr Evil ^ |
| 03:11.09 | linuxuz3r | i dont have that kind of money |
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| 03:11.43 | centrx | Then you better get your video card working quick |
| 03:12.16 | linuxuz3r | i got 2 sli |
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| 03:12.21 | linuxuz3r | wont got fuxored |
| 03:12.31 | linuxuz3r | the other one thank god works |
| 03:12.42 | centrx | I doubt the Ubuntu software physically broke your video card |
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| 03:13.15 | linuxuz3r | yeah but take note i was running ubuntu |
| 03:14.44 | planet_ | how exactly was the card messed up? i've had some problems with dual monitor setups before |
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| 03:16.00 | linuxuz3r | well i usually turn off suspend or hibernate |
| 03:16.10 | linuxuz3r | but one night i saw it in hibernate mode |
| 03:16.18 | linuxuz3r | i could not wake it up |
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| 03:16.39 | linuxuz3r | when i reset my main gfx card got garbled artifacts |
| 03:17.45 | linuxuz3r | do you guys know if google cloud is openstack? |
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| 03:20.09 | centrx | linuxuz3r, Seems unlikely. Google has a lot of infrastructure created in house. |
| 03:20.12 | swordsmanz | linuxuz3r try downloading the amd/nvidia driver |
| 03:20.39 | linuxuz3r | swordsmanz, i dont think i can revive the card |
| 03:20.48 | linuxuz3r | centrx, does it use linux os? |
| 03:20.56 | centrx | Yes |
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| 03:24.39 | swordsmanz | linuxuz3r they probably have quid a few OSes in the process to a service like that |
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| 03:25.56 | linuxuz3r | yeah |
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| 03:39.33 | K0D3R | I'm get an error 404 when try to download the installation iso |
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| 03:41.08 | K0D3R | even the torrent |
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| 03:42.22 | swordsmanz | K0D3R a torrent can't 404 |
| 03:42.31 | swordsmanz | its not running apache |
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| 03:43.29 | K0D3R | I meant that I got a 404 when trying to download the torrent file |
| 03:43.30 | swordsmanz | also you might want to try another mirror |
| 03:43.48 | themill | details would be handy |
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| 03:44.13 | K0D3R | https://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
| 03:44.25 | themill | K0D3R: that doesn't really provide any information... |
| 03:44.45 | K0D3R | the links are broken |
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| 03:45.24 | themill | details would be handy |
| 03:45.57 | themill | the one link I tried worked fine... now alternatively, you could tell me which one you're looking at |
| 03:46.10 | planet_ | 32bit iso seems to be broken |
| 03:46.15 | planet_ | http://gemmei.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 03:46.17 | civillian | K0D3R: since you're obviously a developer, I will hand feed you this: change 7.4.0 to 7.5.0 and they work |
| 03:46.19 | somiaj | themill: the ones I saw still point at 7.4 instead of 7.5 |
| 03:46.43 | themill | somiaj: that's entirely feasible... |
| 03:47.03 | K0D3R | I'm trying 64-bit PC netinst iso and 32-bit PC netinst iso |
| 03:47.09 | K0D3R | both are broken |
| 03:47.12 | themill | somiaj: yes, some of them do. If we'd just been given a URL 5 minutes ago, we'd have been able to say that. |
| 03:47.13 | swordsmanz | both seem to work fine for me |
| 03:47.22 | themill | K0D3R: replace 7.4 with 7.5 in the URL |
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| 03:48.51 | K0D3R | thanks |
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| 04:01.53 | Tasab | hi , how i can fix the grub loader , debian wheezy , tks |
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| 04:03.50 | Tasab | wols, hello mate , i hv a problem with the grub loader - how i can fix , debian wheezy |
| 04:04.06 | planet_ | i've had some problems with grub lately- what is the error you're getting? |
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| 04:05.00 | Tasab | planet_, just caming as black screen asking for the user name & pw |
| 04:05.18 | Tasab | *coming |
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| 04:05.50 | planet_ | have you recently repartitioned your hard drive? |
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| 04:05.59 | jiohdi | why do you think the grub loader is bad? |
| 04:06.24 | bodeezl | grub so good |
| 04:06.39 | Tasab | nope , but assumed adding old version loader from the s/ware centre |
| 04:07.18 | jiohdi | if you get to where its asking for a password then grub is working |
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| 04:07.25 | Tasab | jiohdi, my system not working no graphic interface |
| 04:07.34 | planet_ | is it loading into grub rescue? i don't think grub has a login prompt |
| 04:07.47 | jiohdi | Tasab, how far are you getting? |
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| 04:08.09 | Tasab | just couple of hours ago |
| 04:08.19 | jiohdi | after it boots, what happens? |
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| 04:09.45 | Tasab | screen as MSDOS and asking for the pw & user name , when inserting no action and the same black screen appear again |
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| 04:10.39 | jiohdi | where it asks for pw is that graphical or just command line? |
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| 04:10.50 | zorgshanker | have you tried to enter the user "root" with your pw |
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| 04:11.16 | Tasab | no graphical , jiohdi |
| 04:11.35 | planet_ | a valid user name / password should still get you to your default shell |
| 04:11.41 | jiohdi | tasab, its not grub, but it could be ldm, do you have a root password? |
| 04:11.59 | Tasab | zorgshanker, yes enter my user name & pw , but no graphical - system not working |
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| 04:12.25 | Tasab | jiohdi, absolutely yes |
| 04:13.29 | jiohdi | Tasab, ok, when you get to where it asks for password put in root and root pw and then type apt-get install gdm3 or kdm and then chose one of them when it asks which one you want |
| 04:13.55 | jiohdi | is your graphics driver, nvidia? |
| 04:14.39 | Tasab | nope nvidia , jiohdi |
| 04:15.15 | jiohdi | chosing gdm3 or kdm may fix your problem |
| 04:16.22 | Tasab | jiohdi, may be you are right , but what about my files , will be in life or deleted ? |
| 04:16.32 | jiohdi | no, not touched |
| 04:18.00 | planet_ | Tasab this may be an excellent time to learn some command line navigation- have you installed software from command line before? |
| 04:18.01 | jiohdi | ldm gdm and kdm are only at the beginning to start up your graphics they do not harm your files |
| 04:18.10 | Tasab | jiohdi, ok then will quit for a while to fix the issue , tks cya |
| 04:19.04 | Tasab | planet_, yes of course |
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| 04:37.45 | zoso | Hi, I am using debian wheezy and I am having issues with setting up a dual monitor. I am using bumblebee from debian repository. How can I debug more? |
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| 04:45.12 | buu | zoso: I'm sure its somewhere in the depths of xrandr ! |
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| 04:49.16 | zoso | buu, I am using xrandr, and it only lists one display. |
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| 04:51.17 | zoso | Well I also use awesome, tiling manager. |
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| 05:26.11 | k^ | hey guys, i hope somebody can help me. i have an issue with locales on my debian jessie installation - Can't set locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct! < to fix this, i tried to "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and selected en_US.UTF-8 as default language. but then i get this: |
| 05:26.14 | k^ | *** update-locale: Error: invalid locale settings: LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 |
| 05:26.25 | k^ | locale gives me the following: |
| 05:26.32 | k^ | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 05:26.33 | k^ | LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 05:26.33 | k^ | LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 05:26.33 | k^ | LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" |
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| 05:27.35 | k^ | sorry |
| 05:27.36 | k^ | http://paste.debian.net/96320/ |
| 05:27.38 | k^ | i get this |
| 05:27.44 | k^ | as locale and locale -a |
| 05:27.55 | k^ | and now i have no idea how to fix this :< |
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| 05:31.14 | k^ | selecting "none" as default locale works tho, but thats not what i want - even locale-gen works just fine, but as far as i set en_US.UTF-8 i get this weird error |
| 05:31.16 | wols | k^: how do you actually set the localte? and why haven't you generate the de_DE.UTF8? |
| 05:31.36 | k^ | well the system once was on german - i dont want that anymore |
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| 05:31.47 | k^ | export $var=$value < setting local |
| 05:31.47 | wols | that's not the point |
| 05:31.52 | linuxuz3r_ | ;p |
| 05:32.51 | wols | k^: what does "grep -v ^# /etc/locale.gen" show? |
| 05:33.04 | k^ | weird, if i select de_DE.UTF-8 and then select "en_US.UTF-8" it seems to work o_O |
| 05:33.09 | k^ | wols: sec |
| 05:33.26 | k^ | de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
| 05:33.26 | k^ | en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
| 05:33.45 | k^ | weird is, that it has 2 empty lines in front |
| 05:34.06 | wols | so again: how do you set the locale? |
| 05:34.10 | k^ | http://paste.debian.net/96321/ < |
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| 05:34.58 | k^ | wols: what i basically did was, dpkg-reconfigure locales and set some vars with export $var=$value |
| 05:35.08 | k^ | or do i just get you wrong? |
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| 05:35.43 | wols | your export lines are probably wrong, there is nothing with "UTF8". also you need to do this in some file to make it stick |
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| 05:36.52 | k^ | http://paste.debian.net/96322/ < here is what "locale" and "locale -a" shows me - i might be wrong, but it does look "good", doesnt it? |
| 05:37.19 | k^ | (i never had such issues with locales etc, so im kinda noob regarding this, sorry) |
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| 05:38.33 | k^ | i want to change to locale, because i get weird messages like: mkdir: cannot create directory ‘sources’: File exists < the invalid chars are annoying :< |
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| 05:41.35 | wols | I still don't really know what you used to set the locale and what you set it to, and I told you the most likely problem. UTF8 is not UTF-8 as it should be |
| 05:42.00 | wols | I suggest you grep for locale settings in /etc for system wide and your ~ for yourself to change them to whatever you want |
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| 05:44.03 | k^ | wols: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 < there is the dash? or should it be without dash? |
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| 05:45.50 | Tasab | jiohdi, hi , just back , however the apt-get install gdm3 , need internet connection ? tks |
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| 05:49.01 | k^ | wols: so far so good, there was some settings in "/etc/default/locale" which i just removed "LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8" < now i am able to dpkg-reconfigure locales with UTF8 en only, without errors. but sadly im still getting weird characters like this "mkdir: cannot create directory ‘sources’:" < any idea how i can remove this? |
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| 05:50.29 | Tasab | wols, are you around ? |
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| 05:52.59 | Guest73833 | hi all |
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| 05:53.24 | Tasab | the output of dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 = gdm broken or not fully installed , any idea how i can resolve this issue , thanx |
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| 05:57.48 | cooldharma06_ | hi all |
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| 05:58.20 | cooldharma06_ | i installed xfce in my system after restarting i am not able to get the login screen for particular user |
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| 06:01.06 | rjsalts | cooldharma06_: you want the same settings? |
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| 06:01.37 | Tasab | jiohdi, ? |
| 06:02.13 | cooldharma06_ | yes is there any way to do achieve this..? because under my (user1) account i am having all things |
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| 06:02.44 | cooldharma06_ | now i am creating user2 for that problem. how to import all form user1->user2 |
| 06:02.49 | rjsalts | cooldharma06_: copy the settings files. They'll be in your home directory, mostly they'll start with . |
| 06:03.19 | tuv | iceweasel 28 is unable to load any google pages here! anyone having similar problems? other sites won't load either, but *all* google sites don't load |
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| 06:04.19 | cooldharma06_ | and also that xfce is working for root user. for my user1 only its not working any suggestions>?? |
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| 06:04.56 | Taueres | tuv: is the browser showing an error? |
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| 06:08.08 | tuv | Taueres: no. keeps loading forever (literally - certainly past 24 hours!) |
| 06:08.23 | tuv | the same pages load fine in chromium |
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| 06:20.31 | linuxuz3r | hi |
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| 06:30.40 | rjsalts | tuv: I'm having no issues, it's not an iceweasel 28 thing |
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| 06:31.15 | rjsalts | tuv: anything in .xsession-errors |
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| 06:34.48 | Ozzyboshi | Hello chat, i am creating a new debian package from a upstream source package that has an empty changelog file (i am the author of the upstream package), this will be a problem when i submit a RFS to debian mentors? Should i write a changelog file even if it's the first release? |
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| 06:35.55 | Ozzyboshi | It seems to me a silly question but a friend of mine said that empty changelog could be a problem whern i submit the Request for Sponsor |
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| 06:38.25 | tuv | rjsalts: a few, but can't tell how old are then. |
| 06:38.36 | tuv | rjsalts: btw, what version of debian are you using? |
| 06:38.46 | rjsalts | tuv: unstable |
| 06:39.00 | tuv | i'm on jessie |
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| 06:39.55 | rjsalts | tuv: what happens if you use iceweasel -ProfileManager -new-instance and create a new profile? still have problems with google stuff? |
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| 06:41.00 | tuv | rjsalts: i removed my existing profile (after deleting all cookies made no difference) -- still no luck |
| 06:41.03 | tuv | reverts back to 24 |
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| 07:13.26 | linuxuz3r | whats a good ide for c++ in debian |
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| 07:13.46 | vvor | emacs |
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| 07:14.08 | linuxuz3r | well i was looking for a more advance one |
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| 07:15.03 | vvor | there is none... |
| 07:15.39 | linuxuz3r | other than eclipse? |
| 07:15.45 | linuxuz3r | ok thanks |
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| 07:18.48 | vvor | linuxuz3r: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments#C.2FC.2B.2B |
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| 07:20.30 | linuxuz3r | thaniks |
| 07:20.30 | linuxuz3r | gtg |
| 07:20.31 | linuxuz3r | bye |
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| 07:40.54 | tuorwork | hi, what is happening when debian turns the screen off. (gnome-control-center -> brightness and lock -> turn screen off when inactiv for:) |
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| 07:51.03 | edge226-mobile-2 | what is up with synaptic in debian? I get really bad lag with it for no apparent reason. It only happens when the mouse goes idle. But the idle is really quick like 2 seconds. So practically every time I go to use my mouse it glitches out. |
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| 07:57.47 | edge226-mobile-2 | where are the synaptic configs kept? |
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| 08:02.04 | nkuttler | edge226-mobile-2: the man page should tell you |
| 08:02.26 | edge226-mobile-2 | nkuttler: it appears debian is retarded and does not create the appropriate files... |
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| 08:02.46 | nkuttler | edge226-mobile-2: try /usr/share/doc/package/examples |
| 08:03.44 | edge226-mobile-2 | nkuttler: see above, I finally found the location the file 'should' be in the wiki which does not exist locally. /me sighs. |
| 08:03.59 | nkuttler | edge226-mobile-2: which file is it? |
| 08:04.34 | edge226-mobile-2 | nkuttler: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf |
| 08:05.03 | nkuttler | edge226-mobile-2: right, that doesn't seem to be packaged. have you checked the docs dir yet? |
| 08:05.27 | edge226-mobile-2 | nkuttler: no I am just fixing the retardedness. |
| 08:05.28 | nkuttler | if it's not documented and there are no examples, file a bug |
| 08:05.36 | nkuttler | anyway, good luck |
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| 08:27.16 | edge226-mobile-2 | anyone know what option synaptics needs to not kick off every second and stop the mouse for like 5 seconds. It is really really annoying when I am trying to play a mouse based game when the mouse just stops working for large gaps at a time? |
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| 08:30.54 | edge226-mobile-2 | It is not GPU/CPU lag but entirely like the mouse is going into power savings for no reason and having to 'wake up' |
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| 08:32.17 | colo-work | eh, does this throw HTTP 500 for you, too? http://bugs-search.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?phrase=logstash&search=search&skip=0&order_field=&order_operator=STRA&max_results=10 |
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| 08:32.35 | colo-work | (I'd like to know if there's an ITP - or anything else, actually - that concerns itself with logstash) |
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| 08:37.38 | edge226-mobile-2 | Lol, I guess the solution is not using debian. Ill download croagh instead of crouton and get Arch working after work. |
| 08:38.13 | Twinkletoes | I have a little script which runs fine, but can't find files when run from cron. Even though I've specified it to run as root, how can I make sure it's running from the directory the script is in... can you supply a CWD parameter or something in the cron command? |
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| 08:38.48 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: show where it is listed? |
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| 08:39.16 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: Sorry, I didn't understand that... |
| 08:39.34 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: aka what does the cron job do, how does it run the command? |
| 08:39.58 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: 0 5 * * * root /root/myscript.sh |
| 08:40.27 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: and what error do you get if anything? |
| 08:40.39 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: No such file or directory |
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| 08:40.51 | Twinkletoes | (for the reading of the files after they've been written) |
| 08:41.08 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: so it errors on a certain part of the script? |
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| 08:41.13 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: Do I have to add something like "cd <workign directory> &&, " before the command, or is there a more elegant way? |
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| 08:41.53 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: that may work but I do not see why oh wait! |
| 08:41.54 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: Yes, I think it's erroring because it can't find the files it's meant to find... ie. the working directory is differnet when run frm cron |
| 08:42.22 | edge226-mobile-2 | ah okay, can I see the script in a pastebin or something? |
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| 08:43.58 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: I tar some files, and it works OK (although I Can't see where the files were tar'd to!, and when I try to md5sum the tar file, it isn't there |
| 08:44.21 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: I guess I cant help .you then |
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| 08:44.36 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: Thanks anyway - I'm pretty sure it's jsut the wrong working firectory |
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| 08:45.10 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: if you showed me the script I probably could but I am not doing guesswork BS. I do not do that. |
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| 08:47.01 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: its probably a simple syntax error or something. Guesswork is impossible with that. You will probably recieve the same answer over and over from other people as well. |
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| 08:48.22 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: Here's an example: http://pastebin.com/Nf3QCusr |
| 08:48.45 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: nysqldump completes successfully, but gzip can't find the file |
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| 08:49.29 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: is that a snippet or the entire script? |
| 08:49.38 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: snippet |
| 08:49.46 | edge226-mobile-2 | facepalms. |
| 08:50.05 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: YOu don't need the script - and I don't want to dismiss any help you're trying to give me - sorry |
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| 08:51.32 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: yes in order to see where your syntax issue is I do need the script. because my first responce to that snippet is that you did not define $sqlbackup. Good luck getting help when you refuse to provide REQUIRED information. |
| 08:51.59 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: Sorry Pal |
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| 08:53.38 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: I just dont see why you even bothered to ask for help when you refuse to allow others to help you. People that expect help without valid information are the worst to try to help. Sorry if you find that insulting but it is entirely the case. |
| 08:53.40 | vvor | for 200$, can I see it? :-) |
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| 08:54.26 | gentwo | babilen: good morning... |
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| 08:54.38 | gentwo | babilen: got installed the wheezy!!! |
| 08:54.44 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: I'm not insulted at all - you seem to be taking it badly though. FYI, prepending the cron command with: cd /root did the trick.. You don't need to help me if you don't want to, and I never made you feel bad fo rit, but you seemed to take offense |
| 08:55.33 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: its a common occurance. People often say help and refuse to give information. I just do not understand it. |
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| 08:56.16 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: I cannot see a point other than wasting others time. Glad you found a solution though. |
| 08:56.20 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: There's a lot of the script that I need to munge before pasting it, but I do aprpeciate your offer to help. No hard feelings, eh? |
| 08:56.34 | gentwo | here is the paste bin of my graphic card detail |
| 08:56.37 | gentwo | http://pastebin.de/124257 |
| 08:56.44 | gentwo | which version should i install? |
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| 08:57.28 | wols | version of what? |
| 08:57.31 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: yeah no hard feelings. Not like it really matters. I do not spend much time in here and was only looking for my own solution. I think I found it though. XFCE touchpad disable while typing seemed to be screwing it all up! |
| 08:57.53 | gentwo | wols: the nvidia graphic card driver version |
| 08:58.07 | wols | the one told you by !nvidia dkms |
| 08:58.18 | Twinkletoes | edge226-mobile-2: I read your question, but I never use linux as a desktop so couldn't really help |
| 08:58.18 | wols | I'm sure you've been told before |
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| 08:58.36 | gentwo | wols: sorry new to debian. and no idea... |
| 08:58.42 | gentwo | wols: whats dkms??? |
| 08:58.48 | wols | !tell gentwo about nvidia dkms |
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| 08:59.33 | edge226-mobile-2 | Twinkletoes: I am pretty sure it is how xfce disables the touchpad while typing. Because turning that off resolved the issue. I am going to have to look into what I did months ago for a fix. I remember this being a big pain in the butt with only 1 way out of many working properly! |
| 09:00.06 | edge226-mobile-2 | so thats fine for gaming but sucks for typing lol. |
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| 09:00.19 | edge226-mobile-2 | anyways. Out to do some work. |
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| 10:20.34 | markotitel | How to use `screen` in a passwordless env, eg. ssh with a key. When I want to exit I always get prompted for a password. |
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| 10:20.54 | petern_ | Exit? Password? |
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| 10:21.17 | petern_ | What are you doing to ... exit? |
| 10:21.22 | wols | markotitel: exit what? you log in via ssh, you start screen. if you exit screen you are simply back at the bash prompt. |
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| 10:21.27 | markotitel | CTRL a x |
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| 10:22.00 | markotitel | Screen used by root <root>. |
| 10:22.00 | markotitel | Password: |
| 10:22.02 | koollman | markotitel: that's not exit. that's lock. |
| 10:22.08 | petern_ | That's the sequence to lock. |
| 10:22.28 | folivora | Hi, I have created eth0:1 virtual interface which has different ip/subnet than the eth0. Then I have create rule-eth0:1 and route-eth0:1 to make the routing rules. Is there something different with these rules than with non virtual interface rules? |
| 10:22.32 | markotitel | Ahh, I was following not so thorough tutorial I guess. |
| 10:22.46 | DHowett | I'd call that a "completely invalid" tutorial |
| 10:22.55 | markotitel | koollman, wols petern_ thanks |
| 10:23.13 | koollman | although now I wonder if one can get through a lock if there's no valid password |
| 10:23.27 | petern_ | CTRL a d is detach. |
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| 10:24.30 | markotitel | petern_, yes or CTRL a K |
| 10:24.33 | markotitel | thanks guys |
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| 10:25.54 | petern_ | Well generally when you actually want to exit the screen session, you just log out from whatever it was running. |
| 10:26.49 | petern_ | ^D on an empty shell prompt is (usually) a short for logout. |
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| 10:31.15 | rjsalts | on an empty line |
| 10:31.32 | rjsalts | oh, reading comprehension fail |
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| 10:38.17 | mingtsay | Hi, which do you think is better to be the firewall, Debian or pfSense? Network like this: [Uplink]-[Firewall]-[Cisco Switch]-[PCs] |
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| 10:40.03 | petern_ | I imagine pfSense should be pretty good at it, seeing as that is its purpose. I think? |
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| 10:40.25 | ksk | mingtsay: you can probably do everything pfSense can do with debian, but you need to know how (commandline and stuff). |
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| 10:42.40 | mingtsay | I don't know which to use. I never used pfSense before, but I use Debian for 4 years. |
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| 11:06.14 | Walex | folivora: what are you trying to do? Because what you are saying is hard to understand. |
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| 11:26.25 | mingtsay | 7.4 -> 7.5 ? |
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| 11:28.21 | SynrGy | https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2014/msg00003.html |
| 11:28.47 | nest0r | Hi, when I installed jessie I choose full disk encryption during the installation and as far as I can tell, it works just fine but I want to know how it works learn about it but I'm not sure what to google, can someone perhaps give me a small push in the right direction? |
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| 11:29.15 | SynrGy | see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net for jessie support. |
| 11:29.18 | ksk | !tell nestor about dm-crypt |
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| 11:29.38 | SynrGy | and that |
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| 11:30.40 | nest0r | ksk: thank you! |
| 11:30.59 | nest0r | SynrGy: is there no encryption in stable? |
| 11:31.15 | nest0r | is this really jessie specific? |
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| 11:31.54 | mingtsay | !tell nest0r about dm-crypt |
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| 11:32.06 | mingtsay | SynrGy: how to join the mail-list to receive the announce? |
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| 11:32.27 | SynrGy | nest0r: by default, if you're on jessie, you should ask first on #debian-next as the details of encryption implementation may differ from release to release. |
| 11:32.41 | SynrGy | mingtsay: ksk already did that ... |
| 11:32.52 | SynrGy | (told about dm-crypt, i mean) |
| 11:32.55 | mingtsay | SynrGy: typo for o and 0 |
| 11:33.02 | SynrGy | ahh |
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| 11:33.23 | SynrGy | mingtsay: click back up to the info page for the list? |
| 11:33.39 | nest0r | SynrGy: I see and I'm sorry, I'll keep that in mind for future meditations. |
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| 11:33.57 | nest0r | SynrGy: and thank's a lot! :) |
| 11:34.03 | SynrGy | np |
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| 11:34.45 | mingtsay | SynrGy: I mean I want to get the mail when they mail to debian-announce@lists.debian.org |
| 11:35.48 | SynrGy | mingtsay: yes, and i'm saying i am pretty sure there's a click-path from the announcement through the footer up to the info for the list |
| 11:35.52 | SynrGy | from which you can subscribe |
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| 11:36.03 | SynrGy | and that's it for me. i'm out ... bus -> work |
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| 11:36.07 | mingtsay | SynrGy: oh it's here https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/ |
| 11:36.17 | SynrGy | yup |
| 11:36.17 | mingtsay | SynrGy: thanks |
| 11:36.26 | SynrGy | later |
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| 11:38.21 | mingtsay | I also find out https://www.debian.org/index.zh-tw.html still at 7.3.0 |
| 11:38.55 | mingtsay | maybe I can join to translate the webpages |
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| 11:51.03 | bartzy | Hello |
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| 11:51.15 | bartzy | Is it possible to install debian from the net installer, without adding a new user? I just want root. |
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| 11:51.22 | bartzy | The reason is I’m adding new users afterwards with Puppet. |
| 11:52.54 | Taueres | Gnome Shell 3.4.2 is buggy when used in dual screen mode. Is it safe to upgrade Gnome3 packages to Jessie? |
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| 11:53.08 | Cyis | bartzy: I do the same thing... I start my UIDs pushed via puppet at 2000 and then just simply have puppet remove the default new user with UID 1000 by making it ensure => absent |
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| 11:54.12 | bartzy | Cyis: and you don’t care about how you call that temp user ? |
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| 11:55.36 | Cyis | bartzy: when I do the install I just use 'toor' as the user and then have user { 'toor': ensure => absent, uid => 1000 } in my base manifest that goes to any host |
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| 11:56.29 | Cyis | bartzy: that's a simplified interpretation as I use hiera data files with an account module that translates the hiera data for all user accounts |
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| 11:59.05 | bartzy | heira ? |
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| 12:01.22 | Cyis | bartzy: Light weight hierarchical data store (ruby-hiera) |
| 12:01.30 | doberman | In /etc/exports I have : "/home 192.168.56.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,subtree_check)" but seems like I get "Access is denied" if directory is not readable by all. How can I make anyone using the nfs to be able to read+write? |
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| 12:02.15 | doberman | By anyone I mean 192.168.56.0/24 |
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| 12:04.16 | petern_ | Security fixes for dpkg... hmm |
| 12:04.34 | jelly | doberman: you can't, unix permissions always get applied with nfs |
| 12:05.10 | doberman | So, I just specify user/password ? |
| 12:05.17 | jelly | doberman: in other words, if you want a directory to be read/write, make sure uid of the user has rw permissions |
| 12:05.42 | jelly | specifics will differ whether you're running nfs v2-3 vs. v4 |
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| 12:06.46 | jelly | doberman: for nfs v3, the simplest thing to do is make sure numeric uid on the server is matching numeric uid on the client |
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| 12:10.21 | ioudas3 | welcome faglap |
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| 12:12.54 | osmo_SMS | hi |
| 12:12.59 | osmo_SMS | some1 can help me? -> http://paste.debian.net/96387/ |
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| 12:24.46 | jelly | doberman: I think it's present in "mount" output |
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| 12:27.53 | Psy-Q | installing the jenkins packages from the jenkins team itself gives me "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" without any further information. how can i find out what it's having an issue with? |
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| 12:28.44 | Psy-Q | the package is in /var/cache/apt/archives so i can fiddle with it if that helps |
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| 12:31.18 | Psy-Q | the same jenkins package on a virgin VM works fine |
| 12:31.34 | Psy-Q | so it must be something with permissions, groups, some other customization that is freaking dpkg out |
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| 12:32.40 | abrotman | Psy-Q: put a set -x at the top of the installation scripts perhaps |
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| 12:37.02 | Psy-Q | abrotman: i'll try to take the package apart and rebuild it that way, ok |
| 12:37.21 | Psy-Q | i've also just tried stracing dpkg while it's installing |
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| 12:39.02 | Psy-Q | it seems to kill itself after reading /etc/group |
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| 12:39.56 | abrotman | Psy-Q: that's not what I said ... |
| 12:40.07 | abrotman | Psy-Q: see /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 12:41.01 | Psy-Q | aah, i thought the install scripts were part of the package |
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| 12:41.31 | Psy-Q | i think the strace worked somehow: if you add a group "jenkins" (by default) before installing the new jenkins version, you might end up with the error it had |
| 12:41.37 | Psy-Q | i removed my jenkins group and now the package installs |
| 12:41.47 | Psy-Q | after installation the jenkins group exists again |
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| 12:45.17 | WormFood | what is the page, that gives instructions for compiling a new updated package? For example, debian has foo-1.0.0, and I want to upgrade it to foo-1.1.0 and do it "The Debian Way (tm)" |
| 12:47.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell WormFood about uupdate |
| 12:47.23 | abrotman | that? |
| 12:47.33 | WormFood | yes! that one |
| 12:47.36 | WormFood | thanks abrotman |
| 12:47.55 | WormFood | I couldn't remember "uupdate", but seeing that definitely jogged my memory |
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| 12:48.50 | WormFood | I had to modify the patches, and have a new modified patch directory. How do I make that work with uupdate, or is that documented well? (rtfm?) |
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| 12:58.56 | yei5foo9 | What's the difference between wheezy/updates and wheezy-updates ? |
| 12:59.01 | yei5foo9 | in sources.list |
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| 13:01.02 | Walex | one is updates to the base packages, the other is what used to be called 'volatile'. |
| 13:01.28 | Walex | yei5foo9: https://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 |
| 13:02.12 | Walex | yei5foo9: basically one is for point releases, the other for between point releases |
| 13:02.24 | themill | not really. wheezy-updates is basically unused |
| 13:02.31 | yei5foo9 | Ah, so I should keep both? |
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| 13:03.28 | Walex | yei5foo9: yes |
| 13:04.13 | p3rror | hello |
| 13:04.30 | p3rror | I'm trying to install hp-OpenIPMI |
| 13:04.33 | p3rror | on a debian box |
| 13:04.51 | p3rror | I fetch the packages from a website |
| 13:05.04 | p3rror | and whenI run dpkg -i hp-OpenIPMI-7.7.0c-13.sarge26.i386.deb |
| 13:05.19 | p3rror | I get : |
| 13:05.22 | p3rror | Setting up hp-openipmi (7.7.0c-13.sarge26) ... |
| 13:05.22 | p3rror | chmod: cannot access `/opt/hp/hp-OpenIPMI': No such file or directory |
| 13:05.22 | p3rror | chmod: cannot access `/opt/hp/hp-OpenIPMI/bin': No such file or directory |
| 13:05.40 | p3rror | When I create the /opt/hp/hp-OpenIPMI manually |
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| 13:06.18 | p3rror | it is immediatly destroyed when I run dpkg -i |
| 13:06.23 | p3rror | Please can you help |
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| 13:07.54 | petn-randall | p3rror: This isn't a Debian problem. You'll have to ask whoever created that package. I doubt it'll work in wheezy, since guessing from the version number it's made for Debian sarge. |
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| 13:08.15 | p3rror | petn-randall, it is for a sarge |
| 13:08.19 | lmat | Is there a way to get a .deb file from apt-get ? |
| 13:08.33 | p3rror | lmat, use wget |
| 13:08.37 | petn-randall | lmat: What do you mean exactly? |
| 13:08.42 | p3rror | lmat, use curl, lynx, .. |
| 13:08.57 | lmat | I have an offline debian box. I have the first three DVDs, but that doesn't include libguile-dev which I also need. |
| 13:09.04 | petn-randall | p3rror: Sarge is *really* old, and unsupported here. |
| 13:09.10 | themill | dpkg: tell lmat about apt-offline |
| 13:09.16 | lmat | I'm hoping to get the deb, perhaps something like apt-get debfile libguile-dev ? ^_^ |
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| 13:09.32 | petn-randall | lmat: dpkg should have sent you a factoid. |
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| 13:09.43 | themill | lmat: apt-get has a man page that answers that question too |
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| 13:10.07 | ffrank | lmat: also, when using apt-get -d, the deb file will end up in the apt cache, as always |
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| 13:17.24 | Rug | Howdy all. |
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| 13:24.03 | markotitel | I have another screen mind breaker :). If I have multiple screens, ^a c ^a c , they are not split into regions how do I add them to regions so I can see them all |
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| 13:24.30 | Rug | I am having a weird networking problem. I have 2 NIC on a particualr server. I setup eth0 with a static IP weeks ago without any issues. Yesterday I tried to configure eth1 with a static but it doesn't accept the IP instead it keeps grabbing a dynamic IP. If I use ifconfig and manually assign an IP it works fine. |
| 13:25.07 | Rug | markotitel: I don't know about screen but have you considered using Tmux instead? |
| 13:26.06 | markotitel | Rug, Ah yes I have, I dont know the reason why I am using screen. Guess I have it installed :) and today I have tried it for the first time :) |
| 13:26.42 | wols | Rug: how do you config it? interfaces? |
| 13:26.43 | Rug | the 'ease-of-use' for tmux is amazing. |
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| 13:26.56 | Rug | wols: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:27.15 | wols | check if you have any scripts in post-up.d/ for example |
| 13:27.31 | xand | and make sure dhclient isn't still running |
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| 13:31.27 | Rug | xand: yeah it looks like dhclient is hardcoded to grab an IP for eth1. Thanks for your help. |
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| 13:31.37 | Rug | I'll have to look into that. |
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| 13:34.28 | Rug | This is a bare install of debian, with the only thing I installed was virtualbox, so I am surprised to see "NetworkManager" and this dhclient |
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| 13:34.41 | wols | recommends |
| 13:35.04 | Rug | wols: ? I don't understand |
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| 13:37.54 | Rug | nm I get it. |
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| 13:45.21 | Rug | http://paste.debian.net/96406/ |
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| 13:45.52 | metoo3 | Looking to make residual, 100% legit income using only 10 mins of your time a day? PTC sites, such as Probux have been around for years. Check it out http://www.probux.com/?r=windsorftw for more info or join #probux |
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| 13:46.06 | Rug | metoo3: stfu |
| 13:46.19 | metoo3 | that's pretty rude |
| 13:46.33 | Rug | You started it with your spam |
| 13:46.43 | ffrank | agreed, spamming is very rude |
| 13:46.43 | metoo3 | spam? what spam? |
| 13:46.44 | ikonia | metoo3: you've been asked not to spam people |
| 13:46.50 | ikonia | metoo3: you've just been told in #ubuntu not to do it |
| 13:46.53 | ikonia | and explained what spam is |
| 13:46.54 | ikonia | so stop it |
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| 13:47.22 | ikonia | please don't play dumb, stop spamming, it's not wanted on this whole network |
| 13:47.33 | petn-randall | ikonia: He left. |
| 13:47.39 | ikonia | I lagged |
| 13:47.41 | drvy | lol |
| 13:47.54 | Rug | Ignored now too. |
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| 13:48.03 | wols | he should be klined instead |
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| 13:48.12 | ffrank | he should watch his ass, seeing as he's likely enabling fraud on some level... |
| 13:48.16 | Rug | wols: yes |
| 13:48.35 | ikonia | wols: I suspect he will be.... |
| 13:49.17 | markotitel | metoo3 is just banned from bitcoin channel |
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| 13:50.22 | Rug | He's just using a web-irc-gateway, so hopefully he is too dumb to figure out any other way. |
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| 13:53.53 | Rug | Is there anyway I can kill/stop NetworkManager and just use the /etc/network/interfaces script ? |
| 13:53.58 | ikonia | Rug / markotitel give staff a prod in #freenode/pm if he's still hitting more channels |
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| 13:54.37 | markotitel | ikonia, No problem, just I am three day IRC user. How can I do that? |
| 13:55.02 | ikonia | markotitel: don't worry about it, |
| 13:55.59 | petn-randall | Rug: If the interface is configured in etc/network/interfaces, n-m won't configure it. |
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| 13:58.15 | Rug | petn-randall: That is exactly my problem though. I have eth1 configured in interfaces, whenever I "ifconfig eth1 down / ifconfig eth1 up" my nic grabs a dynamic IP. paste.debian.net/plain/96406 |
| 13:58.57 | Rug | ikonia: I am putting together some info for the freenode staff. |
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| 14:03.48 | petn-randall | Rug: ifconfig bypasses ifup/ifdown, don't use that. |
| 14:04.19 | comradegarry | why in the world does vlc-nox need x11-common to install? |
| 14:04.56 | Rug | petn-randall: petn-randall if i use ifup eth1, then my NIC gets BOTH the static IP & the dynamic one. |
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| 14:05.22 | Rug | http://paste.debian.net/96412/ |
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| 14:05.53 | Rug | petn-randall: .65 is the dynamic IP, and .225 is the static. |
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| 14:10.48 | Rug | Any suggestions? |
| 14:11.36 | linedash | rug |
| 14:11.42 | Rug | linedash: yes? |
| 14:11.57 | linedash | pastebin or similar your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 14:12.18 | linedash | also make sure dhclient isn't running |
| 14:12.46 | Rug | linedash: http://paste.debian.net/96406/ And everythime I kill dhclient it restarts |
| 14:13.19 | Rug | hehe everythime... sounds like a seasoning!! =) |
| 14:13.50 | linedash | have you rebooted since you changed from dhcp to static? |
| 14:13.57 | linedash | as that's the 'quickest' way to stop dhclient starting |
| 14:14.11 | Rug | linedash: nope can't, but I have done: service networking restart |
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| 14:14.53 | linedash | I'm in the middle of a cpl of things so I don't have the time to google for the 'proper' method of stopping it from kicking in |
| 14:14.56 | linedash | but just reboot |
| 14:14.59 | linedash | oh you can't |
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| 14:16.05 | Rug | I'll just tell the users that the server needs some maintaince and will be down at lunch. Hopefully 300-odd people will read their email. |
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| 14:16.40 | Rug | It's just frustrating... Debain didn't used to be like that. |
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| 14:17.12 | petn-randall | Rug: Did you configure eth1 in e/n/i *after* network-manager was running? |
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| 14:17.25 | Rug | Personally this is why I dread the move to systemd and all these other 'automagical' binary systems |
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| 14:17.54 | comradegarry | Rug: I agree |
| 14:18.08 | Rug | petn-randall: I must have, but I never explicitly installed NM. It must have snuck in with VirtualBox |
| 14:18.23 | jelly | Rug: what's the use case for having both a static and a second dynamic assignment on a server anyway? |
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| 14:18.57 | Rug | jelly: There isn't. I am trying to have 2 static IPs. one for each NIC. |
| 14:19.00 | jelly | Rug: remove the auto-hotplug eth1 line. |
| 14:19.07 | Rug | jelly: ok |
| 14:19.10 | jelly | er, allow-hotplug |
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| 14:19.36 | jelly | keep them auto lines. |
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| 14:19.45 | jelly | !allow-hotplug |
| 14:19.48 | saivert | allow-hotplug is such a nuisance. basically for detecting if you unplug network cable and insert it again and then reaquiring dhcp |
| 14:20.02 | jelly | it's NOT a good idea on a server |
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| 14:20.32 | linuxthefish | why won't debian update my openssl to the latest? :/ |
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| 14:20.50 | linuxthefish | OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 |
| 14:20.50 | petn-randall | linuxthefish: What are you doing? What do you get? What are you expecting? |
| 14:20.53 | Rug | I thought it was for bringing the interface UP on cable connect. But anyway, I removed it & it is still grabbing the dynamic IP |
| 14:21.03 | jelly | linuxthefish: which libssl1.0.0 package do you have installed? Have you read /msg dpkg dsa2896 |
| 14:21.23 | petn-randall | Rug: If n-m is still running, it'll still do its work. |
| 14:21.43 | jelly | Rug: ifdown it, make sure dhclient is dead, kill it otherwise, and ifup |
| 14:22.06 | jelly | linuxthefish: which libssl1.0.0 package do you have installed? |
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| 14:22.19 | jelly | oops, already asked that |
| 14:22.41 | Rug | got it now.... |
| 14:22.53 | Rug | had to bring eth1 down first. |
| 14:22.55 | Rug | thanks |
| 14:22.59 | linuxthefish | libssl 1.0.1e-2 |
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| 14:23.23 | Rug | apt-get update |
| 14:23.26 | Rug | ack |
| 14:23.29 | Rug | wrong window |
| 14:23.31 | Rug | =) |
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| 14:24.02 | Rug | looks forward to the day that Fluxbox will know which window i am looking at when I type commands in. |
| 14:24.07 | linuxthefish | so debian needs reinstall? :S |
| 14:24.41 | wols | linuxthefish: you need to check the actual package version. dpkg -l libssl1.0.0 |
| 14:24.48 | terabit | hi , is qxl module compiled in latest debian ? |
| 14:25.01 | linuxthefish | libssl1.0.0:amd64 1.0.1e-2 |
| 14:25.02 | jelly | linuxthefish: pastebin the actual output of "dpkg -l libssl1.0.0|tail -n 1", also "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy libc6 openssl libssl1.0.0" |
| 14:25.13 | terabit | if yall don't mind checking "zgrep -i 'qxl' /proc/config.gz |
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| 14:25.55 | linuxthefish | jelly http://p.linuxthefish.net/fR0x pastebin is blocked for me sorry :( |
| 14:26.36 | wols | we don't like pastebin.com anyways |
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| 14:27.01 | jelly | linuxthefish: your system is not using correct wheezy sources.list, is there a reason for using a specific day from snapshot.debian.org? |
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| 14:27.15 | jelly | !tell linuxthefish about wheezy sources.list |
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| 14:27.31 | linuxthefish | it's just blank install :S |
| 14:27.42 | jelly | linuxthefish: how did you install it? |
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| 14:28.03 | jelly | your sources.list is not default |
| 14:28.24 | linuxthefish | it's OpenVZ Template |
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| 14:28.38 | wols | then you have a really bad and incompetent hoster |
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| 14:29.28 | Evropi | hey y'all, how do I get the Cedar Trail (AKA Cedarview) DKMS driver into Debian? |
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| 14:29.34 | Evropi | it's proprietary |
| 14:29.44 | Evropi | but it's needed or the atom n2600 on my laptop is useless |
| 14:29.48 | jelly | linuxthefish: contact your provider and ask whether there's a reason for that configuration; if you feel lucky and have backups, replace the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with what dpkg suggested. |
| 14:30.04 | terabit | anyone? |
| 14:30.22 | linuxthefish | jelly cheers, wow tons of updates! |
| 14:30.59 | jelly | terabit: Debian does not have /proc/config.gz, but zgrep -i 'qxl' /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 is empty as well |
| 14:31.18 | terabit | ok, thanks |
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| 14:32.51 | jelly | terabit: if you know the actual CONFIG_ name, you can ask the bot, eg: /msg judd kconfig E1000E |
| 14:33.02 | jelly | judd: kconfig |
| 14:33.04 | judd | (kconfig <config string> [--release <release name>]) -- Outputs the kernel configs that match the given string, optionally restricted to an individual release. The pattern will have wildcards automatically added around it. |
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| 14:33.35 | lmat | themill: Thanks for the link about offline apt-get! |
| 14:33.56 | linuxthefish | hopes his German provider understands apt.sources list |
| 14:34.05 | ixela | terabit: Here is the output of ls -1 /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/video |
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| 14:34.11 | terabit | judd kconfig CONFIG_DRM_QXL |
| 14:34.13 | judd | Searching for 'CONFIG_DRM_QXL' in wheezy kernel config gives no results. |
| 14:34.23 | ixela | http://bpaste.net/show/cHZzvBCECz0VPI3nNLUQ/ |
| 14:34.30 | macrobat | I can't use module-assistant on kernel modules I find in the wild, right? |
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| 14:34.35 | ixela | I've installed no proprietary drivers or anything special video wise |
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| 14:35.13 | ixela | macrobat: not likely no |
| 14:35.18 | terabit | ixela: thank you |
| 14:35.19 | macrobat | ok |
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| 14:35.30 | ixela | macrobat: module-assistant is for compiling kernel modules from source using apt repositories |
| 14:35.39 | macrobat | aha |
| 14:35.42 | terabit | I don't mind using a custom kernel so long as I don't have to deal with systemd :P |
| 14:36.08 | Evropi | anyone know how I can install a "DKMS" driver for the Atom N2600 (apparently I need the 'cedarview' driver; lots of stuff on ubuntu but not found much on debian) |
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| 14:36.23 | ixela | Evropi: on stable or testing or ? |
| 14:36.36 | Evropi | stable but I wouldn't mind moving to testing |
| 14:36.51 | ixela | Evropi: You'll potentially have to compile a custom kernel. |
| 14:37.01 | Evropi | omfg |
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| 14:37.12 | Evropi | is there no way to hotplug it like ubuntu does? |
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| 14:37.22 | jelly | linuxthefish: be careful. There might be an actual reason why your provider did something as silly as disabling updates. |
| 14:37.23 | ixela | it really depends on the kernel in use |
| 14:37.32 | ixela | Evropi: I'm going to do a little reading and let you know |
| 14:37.43 | Evropi | thank you |
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| 14:37.58 | Evropi | this awesome community is why debian > arch :D |
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| 14:39.32 | ixela | Evropi: sounds like cedartown drivers are both terrible AND badly documented |
| 14:40.06 | Evropi | welp |
| 14:40.22 | Evropi | arch wiki doesn't bring anything up about them... |
| 14:40.30 | ixela | so the video hardware in the N2600 isn't an intel chip |
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| 14:40.40 | ixela | its actually a powerVR chip which aren't well supported in linux |
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| 14:41.10 | jelly | Right, forget about linux supporting that |
| 14:41.17 | Evropi | this laptop is just sounding worse and worse. First they disabled x64 boot in the bios for no reason (apparently many manufacturers with that model do it) |
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| 14:41.19 | Evropi | then this |
| 14:41.35 | Evropi | isn't well supported or not supported at all? |
| 14:41.52 | ixela | Evropi: its just an oddity |
| 14:41.54 | Evropi | for the record I don't mind non-free, I'd do anything to get it to work |
| 14:41.57 | wols | not supported at all under linux. hence a proprietary driver |
| 14:42.02 | ixela | intel has released some drivers, its just always funky |
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| 14:42.24 | jelly | Evropi: it's effectively unsupported -- there are no free drivers and there won't be; as for the non-free drivers, there are only builds that work against specific kernel and Xorg versions |
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| 14:42.42 | jelly | Evropi: return it and buy something else |
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| 14:42.52 | ixela | jelly: what jelly said |
| 14:43.08 | ixela | its possible to make it work, but you're going to need to do some specific version matching against both the kernel and X |
| 14:43.20 | ixela | its going to require some custom compiles on that end too |
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| 14:44.12 | ixela | also, the driver isn't very high wuality |
| 14:44.21 | ixela | people report issues with video playback |
| 14:44.49 | Evropi | so I basically have to do the old /g/ solution... "install gentoo"? |
| 14:45.10 | ixela | actually fedora |
| 14:45.17 | ixela | it appears that they aim at fedora more |
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| 14:45.55 | Evropi | I meant that as in compiling the kernel xD but surely it shouldn't matter, the xorg and kernel apis don't break |
| 14:46.05 | Evropi | though xorg certainly deprecates a lot of things and replaces them later |
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| 14:46.15 | jelly | Evropi: after having read https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_GMA3600, I stand by "return the hardware and get something that actually works" |
| 14:46.27 | jelly | the xorg and kernel apis don't break # wrong! |
| 14:46.57 | ixela | hehe yeah |
| 14:46.59 | jelly | if they didn't break, neither nvidia nor amd would have to play catch-up |
| 14:47.05 | Evropi | I can't though, it's chinese :( |
| 14:47.07 | ixela | I've been reading some intel posts and it sounds horrible |
| 14:47.18 | jelly | Evropi: you're now $200 smarter. |
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| 14:47.31 | abrotman | I'd buy that for a dollar .. |
| 14:47.34 | jelly | it can still be a nice headless machine I guess |
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| 14:47.45 | ixela | so far its "no new driver for over a year, its aimed at 32bit distros, it breaks constantly and may or may not be compatible with kernels newer than 3.1" |
| 14:47.52 | jelly | Evropi: or run 32bit windows on it |
| 14:47.54 | ixela | yeah,or with fbdev |
| 14:47.55 | Evropi | lol, the headless machine is horrible to boot. I get pages of tracebacks and have to hold down enter |
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| 14:48.08 | Evropi | it's also really strange with how it treats new lines |
| 14:48.23 | Evropi | so I have to hold down enter to get it to go past a bunch of stuff |
| 14:48.38 | abrotman | You seem to have that down ... |
| 14:48.40 | Evropi | then I have to go halfway down a page |
| 14:48.50 | Evropi | for any line |
| 14:49.01 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Evropi about enter |
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| 14:49.20 | Evropi | has anyone had that? I know my description is poor but at least I'd like to solve that. and yes, I'm aware of IRC etiquette :P |
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| 14:50.05 | saivert | Intel annoyingly seems to focus on Windows support for a lot of their stuff while also being very open source friendly for other things |
| 14:50.22 | saivert | They just can't decide on being FOSS friendly for ALL THEIR THINGS |
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| 14:50.56 | ixela | saivert: its even more fun that the intel 3600 series GMA stuff isn't even their own hardware or software |
| 14:51.02 | wols | they now use better graphics on their current gen atoms: same as on their desktop cpus |
| 14:51.05 | mintux | how can i get version of installed package from command line? |
| 14:51.11 | wols | so this is a legacy problem now |
| 14:51.14 | ixela | saivert: if its not on http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-010512.htm then I'm not sure it's supported. |
| 14:51.24 | saivert | well. that chip should just be forgotten about. stick with running windows on it or sell it |
| 14:51.28 | nkuttler | mintux: dpkg -l, apt-cache policy, .. |
| 14:51.35 | saivert | not worth your time |
| 14:51.37 | ixela | saivert: slowly, slowly it dies. |
| 14:51.47 | Evropi | ugh, I actually got this one specifically because it was Intel and I thought that intel was everything perfect in this world (regarding linux). Feels bad man |
| 14:51.58 | Evropi | it's a fairly new driver as well (2011) and I'm sure they had good support back then, too |
| 14:52.01 | abrotman | Evropi: Except that single chipset, it's pretty well supported |
| 14:52.15 | wols | AMD would have been a much better choice :) |
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| 14:52.20 | Evropi | why do these things have to always happen to me. damn it |
| 14:52.38 | Evropi | good thing that I heard my dad was looking for a new laptop. Time to install Windows on it I guess |
| 14:52.41 | Rug | Evropi: i would have made the same assumption |
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| 14:53.22 | abrotman | wishes Intel would make discrete cards again |
| 14:53.27 | ixela | Evropi: they never had good support for that specific chip |
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| 14:53.47 | ixela | Evropi: and they never will. |
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| 14:56.20 | Evropi | well, now I know. Anyone know of any ultra cheap laptops with guaranteed linux compatibility? |
| 14:56.56 | Evropi | I don't even know the name of the company that made this one, I just have a model name and a macbook air manual (even though it runs Windows 7, not OS X) |
| 14:57.08 | Evropi | no logo on it either. It's a macbook air rip off |
| 14:57.32 | ixela | wow |
| 14:57.37 | ixela | terrible purchase indeed |
| 14:57.48 | ixela | buy a used thinkpad? |
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| 14:57.53 | dFence | hey guys, I vaguely recall that you can drop a file in your webroot that supplies a mailclient with the basic infos for the given server (addresses, ports etc.) - did I imagine that or is that so? |
| 14:58.36 | Evropi | eh. Well if anyone could point me to a site with hardware compatibility information for linux then I'd be all set. No more assumptions from this point on from me |
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| 14:59.02 | qman__ | dfence: autodiscover |
| 14:59.08 | saivert | dFence: yes there are some autodiscover stuff you can do |
| 14:59.26 | saivert | Mozilla has their own autodiscover stuff and Microsoft has one too for use with Outlook |
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| 15:00.16 | saivert | This seems like a good idea to standardize in some RFC but that never happened |
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| 15:01.16 | ixela | Evropi: I don't know of a central place for that information really |
| 15:01.33 | ixela | Evropi: its partially dependent on the distro due to their backporting of various kernel releases into whatever kernel they run |
| 15:01.36 | ixela | and what they compile in |
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| 15:01.54 | ixela | Evropi: http://www.linux-drivers.org/ |
| 15:02.00 | ixela | that place has links to other information |
| 15:02.48 | Evropi | thanks. Lots of links on that page, I guess that combining those sources of info would give a prety good image of how well a certain piece of hardware works under Linux |
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| 15:06.42 | dFence | qman__, saivert: cheers! |
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| 15:12.37 | mintux | which one of them is best for server debian or ubuntu server ? |
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| 15:13.31 | CissWit | mintux: not the best place to ask for "debian vs anything" as people here tend to prefer debian |
| 15:13.35 | jarco | hello, we have a fully updated debian server. The vunerability testing gives that it is still vunerable for hartbleed. I have rebooted the server. How can I solve this? |
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| 15:14.13 | CissWit | jarco: if you rebooted the server it shouldn't be vulnerable anymore |
| 15:14.32 | CissWit | if you actually use the debian version of openssl, of course |
| 15:14.54 | themill | jarco: what do you mean by "fully updated"? |
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| 15:15.01 | jarco | yes we do. Its just a empty server that is running some python and sftp scripts |
| 15:15.17 | jarco | fully updates: apt-get update and apt-get upgrade |
| 15:15.19 | themill | The output of «aptitude versions '~i?source-package(openssl)'» would be good to see |
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| 15:15.31 | mintux | CissWit: i know it i asked because i asked from Host provider to why you don't update debian and why all your debian images for vps is too old and they answered me because ubuntu server is more popular |
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| 15:16.17 | mintux | it was not acceptable reason for me |
| 15:16.21 | Tasab | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.28 | Tasab | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:18.04 | MrFrood | jarco: debian backports security fixes rather than updating to the newer version - if your checker is just looking at the version of openssl it will report it as vulnalbe - I suggest you read the changlog for the wheezy openssl package |
| 15:18.05 | DammitJim | I know this is not a Debian question, but maybe you smart guys can point me in the right direction. I have multiple instances of different web services. Each instance uses a different TCP port. What would be standard ports I should be using? |
| 15:18.12 | DammitJim | or is there no such thing? |
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| 15:18.26 | jarco | MrFrood, I am trying to grasp it all :) |
| 15:18.44 | MrFrood | jarco: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1e-2+deb7u7_changelog |
| 15:18.47 | jarco | themill, the command u provided results in a > on the terminal |
| 15:19.09 | themill | jarco: sounds like you didn't copy it correctly then |
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| 15:20.16 | CissWit | jarco: MrFrood has a point, how did the vulnerability testing found out the vulnerability ? |
| 15:20.23 | jarco | themill, indeed :) |
| 15:20.30 | CissWit | did they actually exploited heartbleed or just checked for the version ? |
| 15:20.34 | Tasab | jiohdi, ? |
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| 15:21.27 | jarco | themill, here is the output of that command http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5005835 |
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| 15:21.57 | jarco | CissWit, I don't know. I am just testing it using 2 sites |
| 15:21.57 | themill | jarco: that looks fine |
| 15:22.04 | jarco | our isp has indicated this problem to us |
| 15:22.18 | jarco | https://filippo.io/Heartbleed/#109.236.89.123 |
| 15:22.23 | petern_ | Ever installed mod spdy? |
| 15:22.39 | petern_ | ^ jarco |
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| 15:22.56 | jmce | Hi. Common to have trouble starting icedove in wheezy find after the recent upgrade to icedove 24.4.0? "Could not initialize the application's security component..." [etc] |
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| 15:23.44 | jmce | saw mozilla pages on such a message, removing cert8.db didn't solve [still haven't gone the radical way of creating a new profile] |
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| 15:24.12 | jarco | petern_, not that I am aware |
| 15:25.18 | Tasab | wols, ? |
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| 15:25.47 | jarco | Well seems like its stull vunerable, the sites all report it as vunerable |
| 15:26.19 | jarco | still* |
| 15:26.22 | petern_ | Any random copies of libssl lying around? |
| 15:27.59 | jarco | Normally now. I have installed this server 2 months ago as minimal, i Just installed python and zip etc. nothing even related to ssl or webservers or databases |
| 15:28.06 | jarco | normally no* :) |
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| 15:29.00 | jarco | I guess I am safer if I just close all those ports |
| 15:29.05 | CissWit | jarco: it does look vulnerable indeed |
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| 15:29.25 | TheWarden | Hello |
| 15:29.51 | jarco | Its very scary to me that this server is vunerable. I would understand it if it was some server I did custom stuff on. But this is basiclly debian out of the box ... |
| 15:30.13 | jarco | Itl luckely not doing anything of importance but still... |
| 15:30.27 | CissWit | jarco: check if the binary running the server is linked to the local openssl |
| 15:30.43 | _ts_ | hey guys, im trying to compile qb (php extension) on debian-64 and for some reason i get the error "cc: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1)" someone knows what can couse this? |
| 15:31.13 | jarco | CissWit, any suggestions on how to do that? |
| 15:32.09 | CissWit | ldd /path/to/binary |
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| 15:32.57 | TheWarden | How do I tell simple-cdd to use 32-bit Wheezy? |
| 15:33.19 | jelly | _ts_: a limited amount of memory can make the kernel OOM feature do that to a compiler process |
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| 15:34.36 | jarco | just asking away on a sidenote. Could installing openvpn at one point and removing it afterwards cause this also? |
| 15:35.07 | _ts_ | jelly oh ok thanks |
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| 15:36.40 | jelly | _ts_: check "dmesg" output for clues in that direction |
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| 15:37.37 | jarco | CissWit, here is the output of the ldd commandhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/5005964 |
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| 15:42.44 | bin_sh | whenever i ssh into my server it drops me into a shell prompt rather than a bash prompt how can i change it to be a bash prompt |
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| 15:43.42 | jelly | bin_sh: use chsh to change the login shell into /bin/bash for that user |
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| 15:46.08 | bin_sh | thanks |
| 15:46.24 | jelly | (assuming it's not set to that already) |
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| 15:47.27 | jarco | isnt it just so that OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 is vunerable and that for some reason it is not getting updated , |
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| 15:49.20 | bin_sh | jelly: how can i make bash the default for all new accounts? |
| 15:49.40 | jelly | bin_sh: /etc/adduser.conf |
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| 15:54.30 | crculver | On Debian unstable, when trying to upgrade I get the following message: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 15:54.30 | crculver | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:54.57 | crculver | Several choices are giving for resolving this. Which is the right one? Something big must have changed, but I worry that I could render my machine unbootable. |
| 15:55.02 | crculver | err, choices are given |
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| 15:55.04 | mtn | crculver: from the topic: testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) |
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| 15:55.27 | drguildo | is this a problem on my end? http://pastie.org/9124611 |
| 15:55.52 | drguildo | i tried rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* and switching mirrors but it didn't help |
| 15:55.58 | crculver | mtn: I cannot join that channel, I must be invited. |
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| 15:56.17 | mtn | crculver: works if you go to the correct server ;) |
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| 16:07.06 | jarco | well i fixed it. (sort of) I just stopped all services taht use ssl :D |
| 16:07.11 | jarco | thx for the tips guys |
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| 16:24.30 | Twinkletoes | Using sed, I'm trying to only display the text AFTER the first : character, and it doesn't work. I'm trying : grep <pattern> <filename> |sed 's/[^:]+//' but it's not working |
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| 16:27.55 | Twinkletoes | CissWit: Ah, I See how that works now - thank you |
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| 16:30.17 | bodeezl | hi i am having an issue with apt, a program i was installing failed and now it wont uninstall because the program isnt configured :S |
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| 16:31.33 | JodaZ | does anyone have an tutorial/guide for installing a soft-raid system with debootstrap or the like= |
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| 16:32.52 | somiaj | bodeezl: dpkg --configure -a |
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| 16:33.55 | bodeezl | somiaj, didnt fix it |
| 16:34.21 | somiaj | bodeezl: then something broke fairly bad, but that will configure all installed but not configured packages. |
| 16:34.33 | somiaj | bodeezl: give us some output. First give us the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
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| 16:34.47 | somiaj | bodeezl: then give us teh ouput of the command you type and the errors you get, we want to see exactly what you are seeing. |
| 16:35.05 | jordanm | !tell bodeezl about bat |
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| 16:36.31 | bodeezl | http://paste.debian.net/96430/ |
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| 16:40.45 | somiaj | bodeezl: thank you, one last thing just cause I'm courious, 'apt-cache policy muin-node' and 'dpkg -l muin-node' I just want to see the state of that package. |
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| 16:41.05 | somiaj | bodeezl: but after that i have a method that will fix this for you (but could possibaly leave some artificts) which I'll explain |
| 16:41.17 | bodeezl | sure no problem |
| 16:41.28 | somiaj | bodeezl: fix my typos, apt-cache policy munin-node, dpkg -l munin-node |
| 16:42.07 | mengesb | I'm trying to backport xen-4.4.0 and build a package, but I have a build dependency for linux-support-10.3 that I'm trying to resolve. What file declares this dependency so I can update it to the linux-support version I have installed ? |
| 16:42.15 | bodeezl | http://paste.debian.net/96432/ |
| 16:42.47 | somiaj | mengesb: sounds like that is a Provides: depends, you can use aptitude search to search for packages that have that in their Provides: deb-type |
| 16:43.56 | mengesb | somiaj: last time I updated it to something like linux-support-3.12-0.bpo.1 or linux-support-3.2.0-4; instead of what it requires supposedly which is linux-support-3.10-3 |
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| 16:44.06 | mengesb | forgot what file I updated last time |
| 16:45.00 | somiaj | bodeezl: yea that is a strange stage for a package, anyways when you try to remove the package munin-node the postrm script errors out |
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| 16:45.38 | somiaj | bodeezl: in that first paste you posted do you see the lines like 18-20, 'invoke-rc.d munin-node start' is failing and causing the whole thing to fail |
| 16:45.50 | bodeezl | i do see |
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| 16:46.29 | somiaj | bodeezl: what you can do is go edit the post-inst script, /var/lib/dpkg/info/munin-node.foo (where foo is varius things like postinst preinst postrm prerm |
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| 16:46.51 | somiaj | bodeezl: go edit the script and comment out the invode-rc.d line (or if you want to just get rid of this package put an 'exit 0' at the top of the script) |
| 16:47.01 | mengesb | ah debian/rules.defs |
| 16:47.02 | mengesb | that's it |
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| 16:47.09 | bodeezl | sorry i dont know where the script would be |
| 16:47.10 | somiaj | bodeezl: note if you put exit 0 at the top of the script, dpkg will get rid of the package but the script will not run and could leave artificats on your machine |
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| 16:47.22 | somiaj | bodeezl: I told you the exact link for the scripts |
| 16:47.26 | somiaj | sorry location |
| 16:47.29 | bodeezl | oh sorry missed that line |
| 16:47.29 | bodeezl | ;) |
| 16:47.34 | somiaj | bodeezl: it looks like the postinst script is failing but you may have more issues |
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| 16:49.21 | bl4ckdu5t | I used to have an option at the top right corner of my screen to connect with FTP through nautilus |
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| 16:49.29 | bl4ckdu5t | I don't see the icon anymore |
| 16:49.36 | bl4ckdu5t | How can I fix this? |
| 16:49.54 | Eduard_Munteanu | Does dpkg do dependency resolution? Is there some library which can do it, without installing packages directly? |
| 16:50.37 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: no dpkg does not. Now in some cases (if the dependencies can be resolved) 'dpkg -i foo.deb' -- fails due to missing depends, then run 'apt-get -f install' |
| 16:50.44 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: if apt can find the depends it will do the rest for you |
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| 16:51.17 | bodeezl | somiaj, i just touched the config file it was complaining about and did apt-get install -f instead of remove on accident now apt is stuck :X |
| 16:51.28 | bodeezl | i can connect on another shell but this term is locked |
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| 16:52.19 | Eduard_Munteanu | somiaj: I see... what I'm trying to accomplish is install packages as much as possible without configuring / running code inside them, especially on foreign distros. |
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| 16:52.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | apt-get isn't usually available and it probably does more than I want it to do. |
| 16:52.55 | kittonian | hi all. anyone here familiar with dovecot imap? |
| 16:53.01 | kittonian | need some help with a config issue |
| 16:53.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | Any suggestions? |
| 16:53.27 | Eduard_Munteanu | kittonian: normally you ask the intended question directly |
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| 16:54.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | (People might not want to commit to anything, and are more likely to provide a direct answer to a direct question.) |
| 16:54.58 | somiaj | bodeezl: well I have ot go, but kill the process, and try to clean up what ever it is it did. again putting 'exit 0' at the top of teh post/pre install scripts can help a lot, a better way is to make sure the script does what is supose to by tracking down the actual error. |
| 16:55.40 | kittonian | I've had a dovecot 1.1.x server up and running perfectly for years but never really used it. Now that I need to use it a bit more I've noticed that I need to correctly configure the separator in the namespace declaration so that I can use periods in folder names and have a / as the separator. I have modified the conf file for this purpose but it doesn't seem to be working. |
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| 16:57.38 | mengesb | I'm having a build issue where the version isn't detecting right: http://pastebin.com/D2UqDyDi |
| 16:57.50 | mengesb | its making a directory debian/build/build-hypervisor_amd64_amd64/xen/xen-version |
| 16:58.08 | mengesb | but that should be build-hypervisor_4.4.0_amd64, not duplicate amd64 |
| 16:59.08 | mengesb | mkdir -p debian/build/build-hypervisor_amd64_amd64 === shouldn't that be 4.4.0_amd64? |
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| 17:00.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hmm. Is it even possible to install debs without executing hooks / scripts? |
| 17:00.13 | bodeezl | somiaj, i dont know if you are still here but quick last question if i killed that and tried to clean it up and rebooted could it leave my system just fucked? |
| 17:00.15 | bodeezl | . |
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| 17:01.43 | somiaj | bodeezl: really depends, it seems that you haven't messed with your core system (your kernel and core programs should work just fine) |
| 17:01.55 | somiaj | bodeezl: now apt will be broken until you fix this, but I told you how to fix it |
| 17:02.03 | bodeezl | well |
| 17:02.07 | bodeezl | i cant connect to it |
| 17:02.20 | bodeezl | not even on the proivders console ;x |
| 17:02.31 | bodeezl | so def startin to have panic attack :/ |
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| 17:06.12 | somiaj | bodeezl: yea don't know what to say now, again it didn't look like any of your core packges were in trouble so I woudl think it may reboot. But random guy on internet here |
| 17:06.25 | bodeezl | ;) |
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| 17:06.46 | bodeezl | i know right i just dont get it |
| 17:06.49 | bodeezl | dammit |
| 17:06.56 | sedeki | hi guys, got a server that hasn't been upgraded during heartbleed. got hacked. a bunch of scripts running which i've removed but there are some processes that are still running |
| 17:07.05 | sedeki | rpcbind seems suspicious, is it? |
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| 17:07.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | sedeki: that server should be wiped and reinstalled, not "fixed" |
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| 17:07.32 | sedeki | yeah |
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| 17:07.51 | sedeki | it will, i'm just curious of what he did |
| 17:08.13 | Eduard_Munteanu | rpcbind is a NFS thing, do you run NFS? |
| 17:08.14 | woshty | how does heartbleed make a server get "hacked"? |
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| 17:10.20 | ioudas3 | welcome faglap |
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| 17:11.25 | sedeki | this script was running for the curious http://pastebin.com/8efiFMU4 |
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| 17:17.12 | woshty | sedeki: How weak have the passwords been on that machine? Maybe setting better passwords might be worth a thought when you reinstall it. |
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| 17:18.39 | sedeki | woshty yes, in fact that must've been the problem since ssh seems to not have been affected at all apart from the fact that it's pretty hard to do password discovery in memory 40-some bytes at the time |
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| 17:25.41 | jmce | Hi. Anyone else haing trouble starting icedove in wheezy find after the recent upgrade to icedove 24.4.0, with a message "Could not initialize the application's security component..." [etc] |
| 17:25.43 | jmce | ? |
| 17:25.51 | jmce | saw mozilla pages on such a message, removing cert8.db didn't solve [still haven't gone the radical way of creating a new profile] |
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| 17:32.49 | SquirrelCZECH | hi folks |
| 17:33.21 | SquirrelCZECH | got assigned debian system and interesting thing happend |
| 17:33.46 | SquirrelCZECH | suddenly, it prevented me from editing config files with " Read-only file system" message |
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| 17:34.09 | SquirrelCZECH | thing is that system didn't restarted and I didn't do any modifications to anythin filebased last time :D |
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| 17:34.56 | SquirrelCZECH | yeah, and onle my in "last" |
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| 17:35.59 | musca | SquirrelCZECH: usually a filesystem is set to "read only" if errors are found. |
| 17:36.11 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
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| 17:36.45 | SquirrelCZECH | oh, yeah, dmesg is full of errors |
| 17:36.53 | SquirrelCZECH | and there is the magic line |
| 17:37.01 | SquirrelCZECH | EXT4-fs (xvda1): Remounting filesystem read-only |
| 17:37.16 | SquirrelCZECH | and a lot of "Buffer I/O error on device xvda1, logical block" |
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| 17:39.40 | jelly-home | SquirrelCZECH: something happened to your virtual block device ("disk") |
| 17:39.51 | SquirrelCZECH | well, maybe? |
| 17:40.01 | jelly-home | check the host. |
| 17:40.08 | SquirrelCZECH | thing is that I can't do a thing to host |
| 17:40.12 | jelly-home | why not? |
| 17:40.20 | SquirrelCZECH | so just now I have to wait for the man who is responsible :D |
| 17:40.23 | SquirrelCZECH | nah nah nah :) |
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| 17:44.41 | petn-randall | SquirrelCZECH: In 10 out of 10 times, it's because the person responsible for the VMs yanked the wrong disk out. |
| 17:45.04 | SquirrelCZECH | whatever :) |
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| 17:45.53 | mengesb | does anyone know when there will be a jessie build for xen-4.4.0, I saw the request on the maillist but no one seems committed. |
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| 17:47.06 | gspr | Does anybody know how to tell dh with --buildsystem=python_distutils that setup.py is located in a subdirectory? |
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| 17:48.01 | mengesb | gspr: https://wiki.debian.org/Python/Packaging any help? |
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| 17:53.18 | gspr | mengesb: Yes, actually, running the debianization step showed me that it's ok to change into the subdirectory and have dh use setup.py from there. |
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| 17:53.44 | mengesb | gspr: excellent |
| 17:53.56 | gspr | Thanks |
| 17:54.12 | gspr | now I just need to tell dh to change into that subdirectory every time it has to use setup.py... |
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| 18:00.17 | gspr | (For the record: --sourcedirectory did the trick) |
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| 18:12.05 | osfd_home | why is the gcc-arm-none-eabi package not available for wheezy ? |
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| 18:16.37 | jelly-home | osfd_home: look at emdebian for your cross toolchain needs |
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| 18:16.52 | osfd_home | jelly-home: even for bare metal ? |
| 18:17.20 | jelly-home | osfd_home: what you mean by bare metal? |
| 18:17.57 | osfd_home | jelly-home: I mean no OS |
| 18:18.03 | osfd_home | this ? http://www.emdebian.org/tools/crossdev.html |
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| 18:19.27 | jelly-home | osfd_home: more like http://www.emdebian.org/crosstools.html |
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| 18:19.56 | Malice | Hello, I need help. Suddenly my nm-applet got broken - I can't connect by cable. I still can detect and use WiFi, but I would like to have ability to use cable... |
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| 18:20.14 | osfd_home | jelly-home: thank you |
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| 18:20.50 | jelly-home | !emdebian |
| 18:20.50 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:21.12 | jelly-home | osfd_home: that channel might know more. (note, it's on a different irc network) |
| 18:22.07 | osfd_home | jelly-home: I'll have a look to http://kunen.org/uC/gnu_tool.html |
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| 18:24.20 | osfd_home | still, I don't get why gcc-arm is not in wheezy... |
| 18:24.40 | jelly-home | because multiarch |
| 18:24.47 | osfd_home | jelly-home: so ? |
| 18:24.56 | jelly-home | (also, don't use multiarch, it's not quite complete) |
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| 18:26.21 | jelly-home | oh, nevermind, I was thinking wrong |
| 18:26.25 | osfd_home | ok |
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| 18:27.22 | jelly-home | but putting crosscompilation toolchains for every arch would add immense work for gcc maintainers |
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| 18:27.56 | osfd_home | jelly-home: I get it |
| 18:28.32 | Malice | What's ppp? |
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| 18:29.31 | LtL | Malice: point to point protocol iirc |
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| 18:29.43 | jelly-home | Malice: a protocol allowing TCP/IP network traffic over a serial line. Google it. |
| 18:31.51 | peterrooney | Malice: most common implementation historically was landline telephone modems. |
| 18:32.06 | jelly-home | Malice: TCP/IP being the protocol for most of Internet traffic, PPP allows for Internet access over dial-up modems, DSL, 3G networks, and other |
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| 18:32.23 | parmegv | hi all! First time in this channel, longtime user of debian :) |
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| 18:32.36 | parmegv | I want to be able to monitor the network usage of my computer/laptop, being able to know how much network bandwith each process consumes |
| 18:32.45 | Malice | hmm |
| 18:32.48 | Malice | too bad |
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| 18:32.51 | parmegv | i've tried to use iftop, but I don't like its interface |
| 18:33.10 | parmegv | and now I've just come up with nagios, but perhaps it's overkill |
| 18:33.30 | parmegv | do you know any other package to give me this functionality? |
| 18:34.46 | waflessnet | hi |
| 18:34.55 | waflessnet | how show ipv6 connections ? |
| 18:35.00 | peterrooney | parmegv: gnome-system-monitor (don't know if it logs much, but has adjustable update length/retention) |
| 18:35.10 | Malice | Can I check what depends on a package? |
| 18:35.19 | Malice | I want to know if I can remove ppp safely |
| 18:35.58 | wols | aptitude why <package> ? |
| 18:36.02 | jelly-home | Malice: what is your actual goal? |
| 18:36.21 | wols | if you don't use ppp for anything, you can |
| 18:36.31 | Malice | jelly: http://pastebin.com/H9K9XWKS |
| 18:36.36 | Malice | I want to fix my nm |
| 18:36.45 | Malice | Because right now I can use wifi, but I can't use cable |
| 18:37.02 | wols | pptp is a (broken) vpn protocol |
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| 18:37.08 | jelly-home | ,v network-manager |
| 18:37.09 | judd | Package: network-manager on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.1-6+squeeze2; squeeze-backports: 0.8.4.0-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.9.4.0-10; jessie: 0.9.8.8-7; sid: 0.9.8.10-1 |
| 18:37.10 | wols | what happens when you try to connect via LAN? |
| 18:37.26 | Malice | wols: Are you talking to me? |
| 18:37.30 | jelly-home | Malice: is this really Debian or some other distro? |
| 18:37.38 | parmegv | peterrooney: I can't see process usage, just the whole computer perspective |
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| 18:38.13 | Malice | Theoretically Crunchbang, a Debian-based distro, but I've changed it so I believe it can count as debian now. |
| 18:38.22 | wols | no you cannot |
| 18:38.23 | Malice | What was the command to see full name of OS? |
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| 18:38.39 | jelly-home | Malice: it would be best to install Debian with the actual debian installer, if you want support here |
| 18:38.53 | jelly-home | also, if you're running testing, |
| 18:38.56 | jelly-home | !debian-next |
| 18:38.58 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 18:39.17 | wols | Malice: there are tons. uname -a;lsb-release -a,dpkg -l libc6|tail -1;apt-cache policy and they are not enough since you can so easily create a frankendebian |
| 18:39.46 | Malice | hmm |
| 18:39.49 | jelly-home | (we don't know what changes crunchbang introduced, that just wouldn't happen on debian proper) |
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| 18:40.13 | Malice | I believe it may have something to do with OpenFrameworks framework I installed yesterday |
| 18:40.44 | Malice | It had scripts to install dependencies, e.g. from Ubuntu, and it seems like I've ppp from Ubuntu right now |
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| 18:41.07 | wols | then you have a mess, a bad one |
| 18:41.29 | Malice | too bad |
| 18:42.13 | parmegv | by the way, this page has some interesting software: http://kkovacs.eu/cool-but-obscure-unix-tools |
| 18:42.32 | jelly-home | Malice: if your framework supports ubuntu best, use that OS then |
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| 18:42.54 | jelly-home | ,v ppp |
| 18:42.55 | judd | Package: ppp on i386 -- squeeze: 2.4.5-4; wheezy: 2.4.5-5.1+b1; jessie: 2.4.6-2; sid: 2.4.6-2 |
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| 18:43.24 | jelly-home | that version does not immediately look like ubuntu. Probably testing |
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| 18:44.17 | Malice | hmm |
| 18:44.39 | DarsVaeda | hi, question about /tmp ... I have only 4GB of RAM, should I still mount /tmp to tmpfs? |
| 18:45.09 | DarsVaeda | I just bought a SSD and wonder what setup to choose, RAM or /tmp on disc |
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| 18:46.35 | parmegv | peterrooney: found it! nethogs |
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| 18:47.54 | pussyxslayer | How do i even Gentoo? |
| 18:47.55 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: ram is fine |
| 18:48.12 | jelly-home | !ops pussyxslayer obvious troll |
| 18:48.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj: jelly-home complains about: pussyxslayer obvious troll |
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| 18:48.22 | DarsVaeda | what is the preferred way to set that up? |
| 18:48.41 | dondelelcaro | DarsVaeda: normally, having /tmp on tmpfs is preferred |
| 18:48.48 | parmegv | peterrooney: thanks anyway! bye! |
| 18:48.48 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: it really depends on how much you want to save that SSD from pain |
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| 18:49.09 | dondelelcaro | DarsVaeda: however, in specific cases (large files in tmp, etc), you might want to have it backed by a real filesystem |
| 18:49.10 | DarsVaeda | yeah right |
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| 18:49.27 | jelly-home | tmpfs will be backed by swap. |
| 18:49.46 | jelly-home | (well, RAM+swap) |
| 18:49.54 | DarsVaeda | I read about some option in /etc/default/tmpfs for setting that |
| 18:50.04 | DarsVaeda | I have swap on the SSD too obviously |
| 18:50.24 | DarsVaeda | could spare 10 GB then for swap guess that is enough |
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| 18:51.04 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: that's excessive. RAM is cheaper than letting small writes typical for swapping fill up 10GB |
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| 18:51.36 | DarsVaeda | problem is I can't upgrade |
| 18:51.42 | DarsVaeda | 4GB is the limit in this machine |
| 18:51.45 | DarsVaeda | on |
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| 18:52.34 | dondelelcaro | DarsVaeda: you might not actually need swap in some cases; it really depends on what you're doing |
| 18:52.35 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: give it another 4GB swap tops, put /tmp on tmpfs, and if you wish, limit it to 25% memory size instead of default 50% |
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| 18:52.43 | dondelelcaro | tends to run without swap on machines with SSDs nowadays |
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| 18:53.30 | DarsVaeda | I suppose I would hardly ever need swap |
| 18:53.39 | DarsVaeda | I'm not doing fancy stuff with big files |
| 18:53.53 | DarsVaeda | so hopefully that is never touched |
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| 18:54.00 | jelly-home | it's not about being fancy, but about letting buggy apps like web browsers live |
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| 18:54.16 | jelly-home | 18118 jelly 20 0 1950124 818428 25464 S 35.3 10.2 1368:16 firefox |
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| 18:55.25 | DarsVaeda | hmm right well |
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| 18:55.46 | DarsVaeda | I use a lot of java that might be a thing |
| 18:56.00 | DarsVaeda | although...I think I can setup how much that app is allowed to use |
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| 18:56.11 | jelly-home | I put swap on SSD as well, to make hibernation and sloppy firefox work well, but I also left some 10-15% of that SSD completely unallocated and unformatted |
| 18:56.30 | DarsVaeda | for? |
| 18:56.40 | dondelelcaro | load balancing |
| 18:57.07 | dondelelcaro | if you don't ever write to parts of the SSD, the SSD assumes that it can use those parts for wear-leveling |
| 18:57.50 | wols | DarsVaeda: leaving space unallocated on a SSD helps with the "write amplification" |
| 18:58.04 | wols | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_amplification |
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| 18:58.34 | dondelelcaro | it's one of the reasons why when you're using SSDs, you should do TRIM, so that empty space can be wear-leveled on... |
| 18:59.03 | jelly-home | SSD vendor typically reserves about 7-8% of space for wear-leveling and gives their estimates of longevity based on that |
| 18:59.27 | dondelelcaro | right |
| 18:59.49 | DarsVaeda | right this is a 120GB disc and only 111 is available |
| 19:00.03 | jelly-home | theoretically, if you give it 15% more space unused, the algos will have three times more space to spread those tiny writes, and the device might survive three times longer |
| 19:00.10 | DarsVaeda | guess that is not due to the typical unit thing |
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| 19:00.46 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: it actually has 128GiB worth of chips inside. the 120GB vs 111GiB difference is just different units. |
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| 19:01.32 | jelly-home | killed a device by swapping onto it for about 8 months and not caring |
| 19:01.41 | wols | jelly-home: no knowing how many of these 128GiB cells are dead tho |
| 19:01.49 | jelly-home | thankfully it got replaced under warranty |
| 19:01.58 | jelly-home | bought more RAM after that |
| 19:02.01 | wols | jelly-home: were you RAM constrained? what SSD? |
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| 19:02.46 | jelly-home | wols: about half the time, yes. ocz vertex 2. |
| 19:02.55 | dondelelcaro | wols: smartctl can give you an idea, generally speaking |
| 19:03.18 | wols | jelly-home: there is a toss up if it was the SSD itself or your writing to it that killed it then I guess |
| 19:03.54 | jelly-home | wols: ocz are often badmouthed, but this series and this firmware was decent |
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| 19:04.44 | DarsVaeda | I have a mushkin but no important data will be on it, just the system aka debian |
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| 19:05.10 | wols | vertex2 was no 3 but ocz did very questionable things in their lifetime. e.g. like binning their own wafers cause it's cheaper. mushkin does that too btw |
| 19:05.44 | jelly-home | I have daily backups but it was still annoying to witness the device disappear off the sata bus completely |
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| 19:06.28 | jelly-home | the replacement vertex 3 is in its... third year now? And there's 30 out of 120GB not allocated, which probably helps ;-) |
| 19:06.30 | wols | that generally isn't bad worn out flash, that is more of a controller problem. |
| 19:06.37 | wols | heh |
| 19:07.04 | wols | linux needs more 32GB SSDs, but even 60GB ones are hard to find and useless to buy since the 120GB ones only cots $10 more |
| 19:07.06 | jelly-home | (meant to install a second OS but never got to it) |
| 19:07.18 | DarsVaeda | but good thing I joined this channel prior to doing everything ^^ |
| 19:07.21 | DarsVaeda | thanks so far! |
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| 19:13.54 | DarsVaeda | hmm strange /etc/default/tmpfs says it already goes to ram but there is definitely something going on in /tmp |
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| 19:14.04 | DarsVaeda | how can I check where it is set to? |
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| 19:15.44 | jelly-home | either mount or df commands will show whether your /tmp is a separate mount point or not |
| 19:16.23 | DarsVaeda | ah |
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| 19:16.40 | DarsVaeda | fstab has an entry to set it to disc, I suppose that overwrites |
| 19:16.56 | DarsVaeda | cause it is on disc according to mount |
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| 19:17.31 | DarsVaeda | if I just uncomment that line in fstab it should mount /tmp to ram on next boot, shouldn't it? |
| 19:17.43 | sedeki | what does user 106 mean when I do ps aux? |
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| 19:18.47 | fommil | I'm looking for a good "cloud" data solution. Google Drive is not well supported on Debian, and Amazon is not at all supported. Can anybody suggest a low-maintenance solution? I always thought WebDAV looked good but nobody is really offering it as a solution. |
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| 19:19.09 | fommil | (by low maintenance solution, I mean I don't want to host it myself) |
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| 19:19.36 | wols | fommil: how is this a #debian support problem again? |
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| 19:20.30 | average | fommil: are you looking for a distributed file system? is that what you're saying ? |
| 19:20.31 | wols | sedeki: a user id which isn't associated with a human readable name |
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| 19:20.57 | sedeki | wols in my list there are a bunch of regular names like root, www-data and such but then there's 106 |
| 19:20.59 | fommil | Re: Google Drive. There is Grive and OCAML Google Fuse, but Grive is not maintained anymore (and is very slow) and the ocaml project is very unreliable. |
| 19:21.04 | sedeki | i've never seen that one before |
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| 19:21.26 | wols | sedeki: root and www-data are normal debian usernames, yes. what process is it? |
| 19:21.32 | jelly-home | wols: he _is_ asking for a solution that works well on our OS of choice |
| 19:22.09 | fommil | average: doesn't have to be distributed, just a solution that lets me mount an external datasource and treat it as a local filesystem for all intents and purposes. |
| 19:22.22 | jelly-home | fommil: I'd go for something that supported sftp (sshfs as simple and usable client) |
| 19:22.35 | average | fommil: how about sshfs ? |
| 19:22.36 | sedeki | wols /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system |
| 19:22.51 | average | fommil: it works great for me, it's build on top of FUSE |
| 19:23.29 | fommil | jelly-home: yeah, I've heard of sshfs, is it reliable these days? And does it do client side caching? Say I'm editing a file in emacs and I save it every 5 seconds... am I going to have to wait for my changes to be flushed up my cell signal? |
| 19:23.48 | fommil | average: but is anybody offering it as a solution? I don't want to host a server to do this. |
| 19:24.11 | average | fommil: you only need ssh on a server, then you can start using sshfs over ssh |
| 19:24.13 | jelly-home | fommil: it's as reliable as the connection to your ssh server is. |
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| 19:24.32 | average | fommil: I mean you only need an working instance of OpenSSH on a server running to get this |
| 19:24.38 | fommil | average: jelly-home: if it's doing hungry reading and writing, it's not going to work. I need heavy client side caching. |
| 19:25.00 | average | fommil: don't worry about reading/writing, it works great, I use it like.. ewry day |
| 19:25.06 | average | ewry day all day |
| 19:25.20 | fommil | average: it's not going to work if I have to host anything. |
| 19:25.27 | fommil | hehe |
| 19:25.35 | jelly-home | fommil: its caching is crap with lots of files (eg. a build tree or a Maildir folder) |
| 19:25.41 | average | fommil: you are in a bikeshedding situation |
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| 19:26.04 | average | fommil: listen, we can take this to #debian-offtopic and I'll help you with my expertise in choosing a color for your bikeshed |
| 19:26.05 | jelly-home | fommil: but then, what kind of performance and latency do you expect from cloud storage? |
| 19:27.14 | average | is it ok if I recommend fommil a good VPS provider ? |
| 19:27.28 | average | I hope this will not be considered as advertising or something |
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| 19:27.33 | average | I'm totally against advertising |
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| 19:28.01 | jelly-home | fommil: you don't have to wait for your HDD to flush, just like you don't have to wait for SFTP to flush. Linux VFS does the caching in both situations. |
| 19:28.06 | fommil | jelly-home: latency is irrelevant, it's got to do with the responsiveness and availability of the local cache |
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| 19:29.01 | average | local cache, latency, Linux VFS |
| 19:29.14 | average | all of a sudden mounting a remote directory becomes a Huuuuuge technical problem |
| 19:29.15 | average | lol |
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| 19:29.46 | average | how is it possible, that such a simple thing, that can be solved in one line by sshfs.. becomes a subject of many pages of debate :) |
| 19:30.01 | average | bikeshedding_expert |
| 19:30.04 | jelly-home | fommil: haven't actually tested sshfs -o kernel_cache , sorry |
| 19:30.56 | fommil | sshfs is a bit of a moot point anyway, because I'm looking for a hosted solution that works well on debian. |
| 19:31.09 | jelly-home | wfm, ymmv |
| 19:31.14 | bikeshed_expert | fommil: really? sshfs works well on debian |
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| 19:31.26 | bikeshed_expert | fommil: listen man, ssh afaik is like 30kb/s |
| 19:31.44 | fommil | and re: VFS caching, well it isn't up to the job for fuse filesystems that I've used... not caching the full remote dir and flushing to network (big blocks) on writes |
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| 19:31.51 | jelly-home | fommil: it's not a solution, just a suggested protocol and compatibility to look for when hunting for _the_ solution |
| 19:31.57 | bikeshed_expert | uhm.. anyway that's what I needed, 30kb, for a GNU screen open at all times |
| 19:32.19 | bikeshed_expert | hands jelly-home the bikeshedding badge |
| 19:32.23 | jelly-home | bikeshed_expert: if you don't have anything useful to add, keep quiet |
| 19:32.28 | bikeshed_expert | ok |
| 19:33.03 | fommil | jelly-home: bikeshed_expert: maybe you guys misunderstand what I mean by solution. I mean "somebody who I can outsource this to and they are going to be around for a long time". Technically, I can setup whatever I want on my own server, but I don't want to set up a server. I've been doing that on and off for 20 years and I've decided its too much hassle. |
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| 19:33.28 | jelly-home | nod. |
| 19:33.47 | jelly-home | no answer there. |
| 19:33.55 | bikeshed_expert | was 8 when fommil set up his first server |
| 19:33.58 | fommil | so, I'd really like to know good experiences of such solutions that work well with debian |
| 19:34.04 | wols | jelly-home: see? and that's why I wrote this is no debian support problem :) |
| 19:34.10 | wols | we are not #webhostingtalk |
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| 19:34.14 | jelly-home | !win wols |
| 19:34.14 | dpkg | Congratulations, wols! You have won a one way ticket to Beirut! |
| 19:34.23 | bikeshed_expert | Beirut !!! |
| 19:34.29 | bikeshed_expert | wols: can I go with you dude ? |
| 19:34.42 | fommil | sure, I'll just go ask the windows and mac lists then, because whatever they recommend has got to work on debian... right? |
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| 19:35.00 | fommil | come on, most solutions out there are proprietary... I need something that works on debian |
| 19:35.15 | fommil | even the ubuntu guys are flapping around right now because One was pulled |
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| 19:35.45 | fommil | but there isn't an obvious standards compliant provider of this stuff, as far as i can tell... hence why I'm asking other users of my OS of choice |
| 19:35.57 | wols | proprietary or not doesn't matter. CIFS is very proprietary and it works great on any Linux |
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| 19:37.07 | bikeshed_expert | fommil: on DigitalOcean you could've fired up a VPS in like.. 5 minutes |
| 19:37.26 | jelly-home | Malice: sorry, I don't look at private messages very often. You can reuse your existing /home partition, and if there are differing versions of software some bits may misbehave. However your actual data will be there. |
| 19:37.27 | fommil | wols: is there a commercial market to host it? and can I cache the entire network drive locally, with lazy sync and be in control of full upload/download for when I'm about to go offline? |
| 19:37.52 | bikeshed_expert | fommil: after that, you could've installed WebDAV http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/WebDAV |
| 19:37.55 | wols | CIFS is a horrible protocol over the internet |
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| 19:39.39 | fommil | bikeshed_expert: I know all about WebDAV, but I don't know of any compelling hosts. |
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| 19:40.43 | Tasab | wols, ? |
| 19:40.45 | fommil | *sigh* so what I'm hearing is that I'll have to either host my own server again or rewrite the google drive backends |
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| 19:42.05 | jelly-home | fommil: a saner interpretation of the above would be "noone has relevant experience and they're mostly wasting your time with tangents" |
| 19:42.15 | bikeshed_expert | fommil: I just told you a host, DigitalOcean, you can have it running in like.. really fast |
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| 19:42.38 | bikeshed_expert | fommil: I am not a very big fan of Google Drive since it's proprietary |
| 19:43.00 | bikeshed_expert | I haven't studied Google Drive very much but I'm not sure if they have an open spec somewhere |
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| 19:43.33 | fommil | jelly-home: yes, sadly I'm only feeding the trolls |
| 19:43.35 | jelly-home | fommil: also known as "do your own homework" or "try asking in debian-users ML as well" |
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| 19:44.31 | bikeshed_expert | there is one WebDAV provider, it's called CloudDAV http://storagemadeeasy.com/CloudDav/ |
| 19:44.54 | bikeshed_expert | but really why would you want to use it, when you can pay like $5/mo on DO and install what you want and configure it how you like.. |
| 19:45.18 | bikeshed_expert | it's a personal choice I guess.. |
| 19:45.18 | Malice | jelly-home: Okay, thanks. |
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| 19:59.47 | subz3r0 | hi |
| 19:59.57 | bikeshed_expert | hi subz3r0 |
| 20:00.09 | subz3r0 | comes debian 7 shipped with a vnc viewer? if not which one can you recommend? |
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| 20:00.30 | subz3r0 | like Remmina in ubuntu? |
| 20:00.43 | bikeshed_expert | subz3r0: xtightvncviewer package |
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| 20:01.00 | bikeshed_expert | subz3r0: it offers you a vnc viewer, it's compatible with tightvncserver |
| 20:01.05 | bikeshed_expert | but also with realvnc |
| 20:01.05 | subz3r0 | small and simple? |
| 20:01.10 | bikeshed_expert | subz3r0: yep |
| 20:01.40 | subz3r0 | bikeshed_expert: do you know if its compatible with vino, too? |
| 20:01.45 | subz3r0 | since im using vino on the server |
| 20:02.04 | subz3r0 | ahh... i just try it... forget the last question ;) |
| 20:02.13 | bikeshed_expert | so is it compatible with vino ? |
| 20:02.40 | subz3r0 | no idea ;) |
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| 20:02.47 | subz3r0 | but i let you know in a sec |
| 20:02.50 | bikeshed_expert | cool |
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| 20:03.43 | subz3r0 | im a bit pissed about vino... or better to say about the new gnome shell... you cannot find an icon to turn the server on. so you have to use the terminal and use "vino-preferences" |
| 20:04.26 | subz3r0 | well i like my terminal... but when i use a DE ... ofc i want to start a gui of a tool within the DE ... bleh :p |
| 20:05.18 | bikeshed_expert | if vino doesn't work, you can try vinny |
| 20:05.19 | bikeshed_expert | jk |
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| 20:06.28 | subz3r0 | "Connected to RFB server, using protocol version 3.7 |
| 20:06.28 | subz3r0 | Server did not offer supported security type" |
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| 20:06.45 | subz3r0 | vinny a client or server? |
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| 20:06.56 | bikeshed_expert | vinny is a made-up name |
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| 20:06.59 | bikeshed_expert | I made it up |
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| 20:07.09 | subz3r0 | since i dont want to install another server ;) |
| 20:07.29 | bikeshed_expert | go for tightvncserver , I tried it and it worked well for me |
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| 20:09.30 | subz3r0 | bikeshed_expert: i dont want to install another server |
| 20:09.39 | subz3r0 | "gsettings set org.gnome.Vino require-encryption false" |
| 20:09.45 | subz3r0 | did the trick and i can login |
| 20:09.52 | bikeshed_expert | oh cool ! |
| 20:09.54 | bikeshed_expert | very nice |
| 20:10.10 | subz3r0 | i dont care about encryption. since the server doesnt run all the time, and when i use it i turn it on over ssh and use it over a tunnel :> |
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| 20:10.17 | subz3r0 | thanks for the advice about the client |
| 20:11.06 | bikeshed_expert | subz3r0: but now you have no encryption and some bad people might break into your server and steal your bank accounts and then they can buy a lot of donuts and delicious cherry pies with it, and then your account will be empty |
| 20:11.17 | bikeshed_expert | are you sure you want bad guys just having delicious cherry pie ? |
| 20:11.28 | subz3r0 | yup |
| 20:11.34 | bikeshed_expert | ok |
| 20:11.46 | subz3r0 | because when they get fat, i can easily shot em down with my ak47 |
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| 20:11.59 | subz3r0 | MOoOOOOOOONSTER KIIILL! |
| 20:12.08 | subz3r0 | three far arses with just one shot ;) |
| 20:12.30 | bikeshed_expert | omg, we have a debian gamer here :) |
| 20:12.38 | bikeshed_expert | headshot and all that.. |
| 20:13.09 | subz3r0 | the vnc server is not reachable from the outside ;) |
| 20:13.18 | bikeshed_expert | ah, I see |
| 20:13.24 | Guest213O3 | subz3r0: what game |
| 20:13.52 | subz3r0 | Guest213O3: killin guys who stole my money to buy donuts |
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| 20:14.49 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 20:14.51 | subz3r0 | bikeshed_expert: also and IPS will prevent that |
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| 20:14.59 | subz3r0 | and then comes the ALARM, ALARM :D |
| 20:15.06 | subz3r0 | "an" |
| 20:15.22 | subz3r0 | ehrm i meant ALERT, ALERT |
| 20:15.24 | Azrael_- | is it possible to forward a port to a dns-adress? (the a-record of the dns adress would change quite often) |
| 20:15.39 | subz3r0 | uhmm? |
| 20:15.48 | subz3r0 | Azrael_-: why you wanna do this? |
| 20:16.06 | subz3r0 | you can use static NAT to bind it to one external ip |
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| 20:16.40 | subz3r0 | i dont get the point why u wanna do this? example please |
| 20:16.41 | Azrael_- | subz3r0: because i've got a device on a location with frequently changing adresses and a program which need to talk to it but this program always just resolves a dns-name to the ip and only stores the ip |
| 20:17.07 | Azrael_- | thus i thought about using a linux-machine as proxy which would accomplish this |
| 20:17.11 | subz3r0 | --> /ets/hosts |
| 20:17.19 | bikeshed_expert | Azrael_-: you can use reverse ssh tunnel or somethin.. |
| 20:17.28 | subz3r0 | or use a vpn |
| 20:17.58 | Azrael_- | the remote location has no machines running beside a (small) router without many features and a ip-cam in the backend. |
| 20:18.02 | subz3r0 | vpn would be the easiest solution |
| 20:18.20 | Azrael_- | don't want to dedicate a machine just for vpn there |
| 20:18.29 | subz3r0 | the device <-> vpn server <-> destination |
| 20:19.08 | subz3r0 | Azrael_-: then try it with iptables. |
| 20:19.09 | Azrael_- | right, but the location of the device needed a machine capable establishing a connection to the vpn-server. and until now there is none. wanted to avoid to drop another machine there |
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| 20:19.24 | subz3r0 | well you could use a site to site vpn too |
| 20:19.32 | subz3r0 | so the machine doesnt need to establish the connection |
| 20:19.43 | subz3r0 | but depends on your hardware equipment ofc |
| 20:20.03 | Azrael_- | subz3r0: there is nothing fancy there which is even remotely capable of something related to vpn |
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| 20:22.33 | bikeshed_expert | Azrael_-: http://tychoish.com/rhizome/persistent-ssh-tunels-with-autossh/ ; http://toic.org/blog/2009/reverse-ssh-port-forwarding/ |
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| 20:27.28 | dingo___ | Hey. I have an OpenMoko FreeRunner, and I'm trying to install Debian on it. However, I'm not having much luck getting network forwarding over USB working, and I'm not familiar with IPTABLES. I'm using these instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner#Installing_and_Using_Debian_on_an_Openmoko.27s_Neo_FreeRunner |
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| 20:27.58 | dingo___ | But even after running the IP tables commands and such (My wireless interface, actually provided internet, _is_ on 192.168.0.0/24 BTW) phone still can't ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 20:28.08 | dingo___ | And unfortunately I don't know enough about the process to know where to start. Any pointers? |
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| 20:42.19 | DarsVaeda | I need some additional help ^^ I copied my current partitions to new partitions on another disc, boot flag is set but how do I install grub to the new disc now? and I guess I'll need to edit fstab on the copy to mount the right partitions, correct? |
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| 20:43.45 | DammitJim | what is the proper way for me to give access to a user to put files on a debian server only in a particular directory? |
| 20:43.58 | DammitJim | I think we are using sftp/scp |
| 20:44.16 | addaitech | DarsVaeda, grub-install /dev/sda or whatever the new drive is |
| 20:44.45 | DarsVaeda | okay |
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| 20:45.11 | DarsVaeda | and what about the fstab currently the file has the old mount points set |
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| 20:45.15 | ompaul | DarsVaeda: and change fstab - you may want to use /dev/sda /whatever in fstab until you get it worked out - however hope you don't have gpt |
| 20:45.27 | ompaul | can't remember why I think that |
| 20:45.42 | DarsVaeda | gpt? |
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| 20:46.42 | ompaul | if you gotta ask you don't have the problem :) |
| 20:47.08 | DarsVaeda | okay ^^ |
| 20:47.12 | ompaul | !gpt |
| 20:47.12 | dpkg | GPT (GUID Partition Table) is a disk partition format frequently used by firmware compliant with the Extensible Firmware Interface (<EFI>). util-linux's <fdisk> does not support GPT, ask me about <parted>. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-gpt/ |
| 20:47.31 | DarsVaeda | ah okay I guess not ;) |
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| 20:47.58 | ompaul | disks over 3 terrabytes need it |
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| 20:48.09 | DarsVaeda | still I have one problem, how do I find out the correct UUID for the new fstab settings? |
| 20:48.24 | ompaul | you don't until you boot the o/s by itself |
| 20:48.25 | ompaul | iirc |
| 20:48.34 | ompaul | so you don't worry about those things |
| 20:48.49 | bikeshed_expert | is GPT read like "Geppeto" ? |
| 20:48.55 | bikeshed_expert | or just GeePeeTee ? |
| 20:48.58 | Azrael_- | and as far as i see i can't use dns-names in iptables |
| 20:49.05 | DammitJim | man, this is a weird one.. I don't think I have my server set up for something like this |
| 20:49.15 | ompaul | Azrael_-: correct |
| 20:49.20 | DammitJim | but how do I give access to a new user to be able to copy files to only one directory? |
| 20:49.25 | ompaul | Azrael_-: or I never did |
| 20:49.33 | DammitJim | I can't change the user/group that owns the directory |
| 20:49.37 | DarsVaeda | okay...I guess I'll try and be back if I fail ;) |
| 20:49.40 | DarsVaeda | thanks again! |
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| 20:49.47 | Azrael_- | ompaul: any idea how i could redirect a port to a remote location which is defined by dns? |
| 20:50.09 | brennanos | Hi guys... Im having issues installing some development libraries via apt... I get unmet dependencies and "held broken packages" |
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| 20:50.14 | ompaul | Azrael_-: ask the dns to make the rule up on the fly ... |
| 20:50.16 | brennanos | Im not sure what to look at to solve it |
| 20:50.34 | Azrael_- | ompaul: i have no control over the dns-server |
| 20:50.42 | ompaul | Azrael_-: and your question does not parse well but I think I know what your question is |
| 20:51.11 | ompaul | Azrael_-: host www.whatamilookingfor.com << and start there |
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| 20:51.58 | ompaul | brennanos: what version of debian? |
| 20:52.05 | Azrael_- | ompaul: remote location without much capabilities, but can be adressed by a dyndns-name. stupid program not capable of working properly with dns-names but only ips. now i need a middle station which works as proxy and always redirects the connection to the right place |
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| 20:52.30 | ompaul | Azrael_-: break the problem down, what can you do, when you have that done |
| 20:52.32 | ompaul | move on |
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| 20:52.50 | ompaul | Azrael_-: ... seriously you can't do it in one step |
| 20:53.12 | ompaul | Azrael_-: ask internet what the ip is then apply rule |
| 20:53.14 | brennanos | ompaul:Its the WindowMaker Live Wheezy distro |
| 20:53.22 | ompaul | Azrael_-: if connection breaks start again |
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| 20:54.05 | ompaul | brennanos: I don't think that qualifies as something you should be trying to do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on |
| 20:54.12 | DarsVaeda | :wq |
| 20:54.20 | Azrael_- | ompaul: ok, unfortunately the program itself is a stupid gui one which doesn't offer such options or beinc controlled remotely.. but will try if i can see other options |
| 20:54.25 | ompaul | brennanos: which is what you need before you get anywhere with the borken packages |
| 20:54.56 | ompaul | Azrael_-: you trigger script for program you look up host you apply rules you start gui problem sorted |
| 20:54.57 | brennanos | ompaul: Im not... Im just trying to install libglib2.0-dev |
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| 20:55.06 | ompaul | brennanos: welcome to reality ;-) |
| 20:55.15 | ompaul | brennanos: wheezy should work |
| 20:55.25 | ompaul | apt-get install libglib$ |
| 20:55.33 | ompaul | but is what you want on wheezy |
| 20:55.38 | Azrael_- | ompaul: the program is a closed source one running on windows, proprietary without any option to substitute it |
| 20:56.00 | ompaul | Azrael_-: I solved the problem at a meta level you need to solve it locally |
| 20:56.10 | Azrael_- | thanks |
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| 20:56.18 | ompaul | i.e. you have enough info you can spawn tasks to solve this |
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| 20:57.37 | SynrG | brennanos: i don't know of any Debian produced image like that. URL? |
| 20:57.45 | ompaul | brennanos: it's not a debian image btw |
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| 20:58.13 | SynrG | i.e. not supported here |
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| 20:59.42 | bikeshed_expert | I'm thinking about upgrading Debian's kernel to the Windows kernel. I know there might be some incompatibilities here and there. How should I go about doing this ? |
| 20:59.44 | DarsVaeda | unfortunately I'm back :/ |
| 21:00.01 | DarsVaeda | booting from the new disk works now but it boots the old debian installation |
| 21:00.21 | DarsVaeda | do I have to edit the grub config to boot the new one? |
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| 21:02.20 | studious | <bikeshed_expert> you take your harddrive, and throw it at a window ! |
| 21:02.29 | studious | pooft, upgraded kernel! |
| 21:02.57 | babilen | DarsVaeda: You might have to regenerate your grub config. To do that run "update-grub2" as root. |
| 21:03.04 | bikeshed_expert | studious: yes but, have you taken into consideration the API differences ? :P |
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| 21:03.26 | babilen | bikeshed_expert: Please play elsewhere - this is a support channel for Debian and really not the place. |
| 21:03.38 | bikeshed_expert | babilen: ok sorry |
| 21:03.53 | brennanos | SynrG:http://wmlive.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 21:04.16 | DarsVaeda | babilen, I'm a bit puzzled...I'm currently booted into my old installation and try to do it from there, so in my OLD installation I do update-grub2 and it will get that there is a new installation on that other drive? |
| 21:04.35 | subz3r0 | bikeshed_expert: i would recommend using a sledgehammer to upgrade your kernel |
| 21:04.55 | DarsVaeda | I thought I have to tell it which installation it should boot |
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| 21:05.45 | studious | <bikeshed_expert> Yes I have and suggest the drive gets throw at a 60 angle vertically towards at a non-bullet proof window |
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| 21:06.41 | babilen | DarsVaeda: Ah, well .. It essentially should pick up the new installation too, but you would have to decide which one you want to manage grub. Install grub with "grub-install /dev/sdX" (e.g. /dev/sda *not* /dev/sda1) to your harddrive from that installation and generate an up-to-date config for it with "update-grub2" -- They can, naturally, not both handle it. |
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| 21:09.08 | DarsVaeda | okay I guess that worked, at least the grub config says so |
| 21:09.24 | DarsVaeda | ah I hope I will never need to do this again ^^ |
| 21:10.06 | DarsVaeda | thx again and off to reboot again... |
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| 21:10.32 | babilen | DarsVaeda: Great -- Make sure to run "grub-install /dev/sdX ; update-grub2" from your "new" installation if you want that to be in charge of grub. It should also be pointed out that the "other" installations cannot magically upgrade the grub config if you were to install a new kernel in one of them. |
| 21:10.42 | babilen | argh |
| 21:10.43 | abrotman | too late! |
| 21:10.57 | babilen | That's what I get for writing long sentences :( |
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| 21:16.32 | DarsVaeda | guess what...didn't work :/ |
| 21:17.06 | DarsVaeda | now I have twice as much options in grub and it says one goes to the new partition but selecting that options still boots the old installation |
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| 21:23.58 | ompaul | DarsVaeda: because you need to run grub against the new install so e while boot and choose wisely |
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| 21:24.21 | DarsVaeda | didn't get that |
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| 21:26.23 | ompaul | DarsVaeda: while rebooting edit the boot screen should see the option to hit the new partition |
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| 21:26.40 | ompaul | DarsVaeda: else grub can't find that partition so you didn't do it like you thought you did :) |
| 21:26.43 | happytux | For Debian Wheezy package 'bash-completion', how can I find out what packages uses this package? |
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| 21:26.59 | ompaul | shells use it |
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| 21:27.09 | happytux | So what packages depend on package 'bash-completion'? |
| 21:27.34 | ompaul | apt-cache rdepends bash-completion or aptitude why bash-completion |
| 21:28.02 | nkuttler | happytux: or aptitude why package |
| 21:28.09 | nkuttler | oh, never mind :) |
| 21:28.19 | ompaul | notes the question changed over time and applies calculus |
| 21:28.40 | ompaul | looks at nkuttler and whistles innocently |
| 21:28.44 | abrotman | happytux: 'aptitude why foo' |
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| 21:30.53 | bikeshed_expert | why ! I didn't know about that |
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| 21:31.01 | ioudas3 | welcome faglap |
| 21:31.03 | bikeshed_expert | or rdepends |
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| 21:31.59 | ompaul | bikeshed_expert: please return to the bikeshed some spanner is missing you |
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| 21:32.26 | ompaul | wishes #debian a great night |
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| 21:35.25 | Zzeiss1 | I'm getting "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" ... which sounds pretty ominous. Is there something majorly broken in the keysigning? |
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| 21:35.49 | SynrGy | in the middle of a release pulse i guess? |
| 21:35.52 | abrotman | try another mirror |
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| 21:36.56 | beatnix | hello guys |
| 21:37.09 | beatnix | why a bridge in linux doesnt seem to work like one? :D |
| 21:37.21 | beatnix | all i try to do here is to bridge two kvm instances |
| 21:37.37 | beatnix | with each one has its tap device attached to the bridge |
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| 21:37.42 | beatnix | and they cant ping each other |
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| 21:37.51 | beatnix | on bsd that goes with no problems |
| 21:38.00 | abrotman | beatnix: please stop hitting enter every fifth word |
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| 21:38.57 | beatnix | lol |
| 21:39.05 | beatnix | yeah now thats what i get from linux people |
| 21:39.16 | beatnix | i am outta here |
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| 21:53.56 | viccuad | Hi, I'm puzzled about the difference between apt and apt-get |
| 21:54.20 | viccuad | could anyone help me with it? thanks |
| 21:54.30 | abrotman | you mean aptitude and apt-get ? |
| 21:55.08 | viccuad | apt is aptitude? it isn't, is it? |
| 21:55.21 | viccuad | whereis apt seems points to a binary of apt |
| 21:55.49 | viccuad | if I run apt (debian testing, apt version 1.0.1) I get a coloured version of apt-get |
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| 21:57.32 | l_r | hello |
| 21:57.39 | l_r | does strace exist for ARM? |
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| 22:03.15 | dondelelcaro | l_r: yes |
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| 22:12.20 | babilen | Huh, when did "/usr/bin/apt" appear? |
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| 22:15.07 | babilen | It's new! Oh, I love it! :) |
| 22:15.59 | abrotman | easy there .. |
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| 22:25.03 | erek | Debian Drops Support For SPARC |
| 22:25.05 | erek | ???? |
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| 22:28.03 | abrotman | erek: in Testing |
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| 22:29.51 | AlexPortable | How can I make a backup of all my myqsl databases in a single folder? |
| 22:29.58 | AlexPortable | like database1.sql database2.sql |
| 22:29.59 | AlexPortable | database3.sql |
| 22:30.25 | abrotman | AlexPortable: this is pretty well documented in MySQL Docs |
| 22:30.48 | babilen | *very* well and is also more on-topic in #mysql |
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| 22:41.58 | AlexPortable | I have a lot of files in /var/spool/postfix/maildrop/random numer here |
| 22:42.01 | AlexPortable | why and what |
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| 22:43.12 | BeWilled | Hello, I update Debian 7 this morning, and suspiciously, my windows 8 boot partition is not showing on grub2 menu. Have tried grub update with no luck. |
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| 22:45.54 | abrotman | AlexPortable: perhaps you wanted #postfix |
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| 22:46.24 | somiaj | BeWilled: do you still have the package os-prober installed? |
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| 22:47.22 | BeWilled | somiaj, no, but, but I installed it later and update-grub2 with no results |
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| 22:48.07 | BeWilled | somiaj, wait, nvm |
| 22:48.22 | BeWilled | I restarted and update grub again, no windows 8 is detected |
| 22:48.30 | BeWilled | now* |
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| 22:49.21 | BeWilled | thanks for your time though |
| 22:49.44 | AlexPortable | abrotman: why? its a linux system |
| 22:49.46 | AlexPortable | i dont have postfix |
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| 22:50.10 | abrotman | AlexPortable: yes, you do |
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| 22:51.31 | AlexPortable | how do you know? |
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| 22:56.32 | babilen | AlexPortable: Mind showing us the output of "dpkg -l postfix|tail -n1" ? |
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| 22:58.17 | AlexPortable | oh you are right |
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| 22:58.20 | AlexPortable | lol i have it installed |
| 22:58.28 | abrotman | lolololol |
| 22:58.40 | AlexLikeRock | how to send a mesange to other user in the seame PC ? |
| 22:58.57 | AlexLikeRock | seam *** |
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| 22:59.21 | AlexLikeRock | how to send a message to other user in the same PC ? |
| 22:59.29 | Eduard_Munteanu | AlexLikeRock: local mail or talk |
| 22:59.35 | AlexLikeRock | talk |
| 22:59.43 | AlexLikeRock | by Xorg message |
| 22:59.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | Assuming the machine runs any of those. |
| 22:59.50 | AlexLikeRock | or local |
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| 23:00.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | AlexLikeRock: what is the purpose? |
| 23:00.16 | babilen | "lolololol" |
| 23:00.30 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ah, that explains it. :P |
| 23:00.44 | AlexLikeRock | leave a message to my friend in other hour |
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| 23:01.04 | abrotman | calls that Email |
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| 23:02.08 | AlexLikeRock | like wall |
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| 23:02.29 | AlexLikeRock | but , whit window :) |
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| 23:04.58 | bikeshed_expert | babilen: can I help you with that ? perl -e 'print "l".("ol"x10)."\n"' |
| 23:05.38 | AlexLikeRock | bikeshed_expert, like this : |
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| 23:05.43 | abrotman | bikeshed_expert: Could you please be less noise? |
| 23:05.59 | AlexLikeRock | xmessage "hi, you have new printer in this PC " |
| 23:06.09 | bikeshed_expert | I swear, I will never be offtopic again in my life |
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| 23:06.37 | abrotman | skeptical .. |
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| 23:10.36 | Richard82 | Hello |
| 23:10.50 | Richard82 | Can anyone assist me installing a whole Android development environment on Debian Wheezy? |
| 23:11.18 | tharkun | I need some help with packaging slapd from upstream since the debian patched version exhibits some problems beyond my hability to debug. What is my weapon of choice? (What irc channel has more information regarding this topic.) |
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| 23:13.28 | bikeshed_expert | Richard82: The Android SDK can be downloaded here AFAIK https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html |
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| 23:14.17 | bikeshed_expert | Richard82: you may also consider /j #android as your question is more geared towards Android |
| 23:15.19 | Richard82 | bikeshed_expert, thank you very much, I also want to share a result which I got in the meantime |
| 23:15.45 | Richard82 | the user "Mango_Man" in #android-dev told me about android studio http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html |
| 23:15.54 | Richard82 | bikeshed_expert, just for the case someone else needs this information |
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| 23:16.08 | Richard82 | thank you very much for your help so far @ bikeshed_expert |
| 23:16.41 | bikeshed_expert | you're most welcome sir |
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| 23:21.06 | nullA_ | hey can anyone tell me the current way to restart networking fo rdewbian |
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| 23:21.34 | nullA_ | wheezy |
| 23:21.51 | nullA_ | /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated |
| 23:22.04 | themill | nullA_: networking isn't a daemon -- you don't restart it. You should do whatever you actually wanted to do. |
| 23:22.21 | nullA_ | edited sshd config |
| 23:22.25 | nullA_ | need to restart |
| 23:22.31 | movrax | /etc/init.d/sshd restart ? |
| 23:22.33 | abrotman | then restart sshd, not networking |
| 23:22.47 | nullA_ | ok, thnx |
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| 23:25.41 | nullA_ | did a kill -HUP sshd_pid did the trick |
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| 23:26.03 | peterrooney | abrotman: still yet to have a clear answer on this: what if I want to do is restart networking? As in, bring down all interfaces, and then bring them up according to /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 23:27.55 | nullA_ | abrotman: i'd like to know too :) |
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| 23:28.34 | nullA_ | since networking -restart is deprecated |
| 23:29.22 | themill | peterrooney: then do exactly that. Part of the trouble is that no-one can agree on what restart networking means (because it is meaningless)... for instance, should it also reset iptables rules? |
| 23:30.00 | nullA_ | themill; what happened to inetd ? |
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| 23:31.22 | nullA_ | themill: networking doesn't count iptables |
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| 23:31.34 | nullA_ | thats not a network service |
| 23:31.50 | eristisk | I just installed Debian and Wifi drivers are working but it is from netinst CD and I don\t have network-manager or wicd installed |
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| 23:32.06 | eristisk | What is the best utility to connect to my WPA2-encrypted Wifi network? |
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| 23:32.37 | themill | nullA_: the interface being up is not a network service either |
| 23:32.45 | nullA_ | eristisk: can you see your wifi adapter ? |
| 23:32.49 | nullA_ | iwconfig |
| 23:32.51 | eristisk | yes |
| 23:33.16 | nullA_ | you know your access point bssid & whatnot .. |
| 23:33.17 | eristisk | I bought Atheros and it is 100% ath9k supported |
| 23:33.20 | eristisk | yes |
| 23:33.23 | eristisk | bssid and password |
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| 23:34.10 | nullA_ | you can do it with ifconfig but it's kind of a pain in the arse |
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| 23:34.42 | eristisk | Yeah well how else to connect? |
| 23:36.15 | somiaj | nullA_: http://paste.debian.net/96488/ -- add those three lines to your /etc/network/interfaces file (assuming wlan0 is your wifi card), then just 'ifup wlan0' will connect to a wpa network via dhcp |
| 23:36.20 | somiaj | eristisk: ^^ |
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| 23:36.22 | somiaj | wrong nick |
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| 23:36.58 | AlexLikeRock | how to send a message to other user in localhost like -----> xmessage "hi, you have new printer in this PC " |
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| 23:37.24 | nullA_ | AlexLikerock : cat /dev/TTY |
| 23:37.30 | nullA_ | AlexLikerock : cat > /dev/TTY |
| 23:37.40 | AlexLikeRock | trying ..... |
| 23:37.44 | nullA_ | AlexLikerock : or .. echo > /dev/TTY |
| 23:38.10 | nullA_ | do a who , find their term first |
| 23:38.25 | nullA_ | then echo ' your message' > /dev/theirTTY |
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| 23:38.47 | AlexLikeRock | nullA_, not work |
| 23:38.51 | somiaj | or use write, 'man write' |
| 23:38.54 | AlexLikeRock | i need by XORG |
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| 23:40.07 | AlexLikeRock | somiaj, |
| 23:40.18 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.19 | AlexLikeRock | write: user2 is not logged in on hola |
| 23:40.19 | somiaj | if you have root privlats you can run xmessage as the user in question |
| 23:40.22 | eristisk | somiaj: Awesome, that worked. Great to know! syntax is important |
| 23:40.28 | AlexLikeRock | yes like root |
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| 23:40.54 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock: su - username, then run the DISPLAY=":0.0" xmessage foo as that user, then logout of that user |
| 23:41.15 | somiaj | eristisk: you can also use alias in there, so instead of calling it 'wlan0' replace wlan0 with 'home', then write ifup wlan0=home |
| 23:41.40 | somiaj | eristisk: you can manage multiple networks this way with aliases. You shoudl also note by default /etc/network/interfaces is readable by ayone on your system. So your wifi passwords could be seen. |
| 23:41.47 | somiaj | eristisk: chmod 700 that file fixes that |
| 23:42.50 | eristisk | somiaj: I normally use wicd once I have my desktop env installed |
| 23:43.09 | somiaj | eristisk: then you will want to remove that wlan0 line when you are done, as wicd may ignore any dveice mentioned in that file |
| 23:43.34 | somiaj | eristisk: wicd also has a console (ncurses) control so you can control it from a console, though probabaly dosen't help you fi you don't have it installed and no network |
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| 23:43.50 | eristisk | I was going to anyhow, but this is very useful to know in times when I want to debug wireless issues without a nm |
| 23:44.01 | eristisk | Yeah I like wicd-curses |
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| 23:44.21 | AlexLikeRock | somiaj, user2@PC:~$ the DISPLAY=":0.0" xmessage asdfsdfsdfs |
| 23:44.22 | AlexLikeRock | -su: the: command not found |
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| 23:44.59 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock: don't run the, the command is "DISPLAY=":0.0" xmessage" |
| 23:45.04 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock: don't run the, the command is "DISPLAY=":0.0" xmessage foo" |
| 23:45.24 | AlexLikeRock | so.. ? |
| 23:45.36 | AlexLikeRock | what command i need to run ? |
| 23:45.50 | somiaj | you run that command as the user who is running the xsession |
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| 23:46.30 | AlexLikeRock | user2@PC:~$ xmessage hi-brother |
| 23:46.30 | AlexLikeRock | No protocol specified |
| 23:46.30 | AlexLikeRock | Error: Can't open display: :0 |
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| 23:46.45 | AlexLikeRock | its al ready open in TTY8 |
| 23:47.05 | AlexLikeRock | but i want leave this mensage today , to him read tomorrow |
| 23:48.12 | LtL | AlexLikeRock: something like this, adjust accordingly: (sleep 10m; xmessage -near TEN Minutes has gone by) & |
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| 23:50.42 | AlexLikeRock | ok ,ltl |
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| 23:52.16 | AlexLikeRock | LtL, user2@PC:~$ sleep 15 && xmessage hi |
| 23:52.16 | AlexLikeRock | No protocol specified |
| 23:52.16 | AlexLikeRock | Error: Can't open display: :0 |
| 23:52.38 | Average_Guy | Hello! I have a dual boot laptop with windows(games) and Debian. Today, In the Grub list, Windows doesn't appear. What can i do? Thanks ! |
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| 23:56.07 | AlexLikeRock | ok, i change te cuestion ... |
| 23:56.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.36 | AlexLikeRock | like xmessage fasdfafbjabsf |
| 23:56.52 | AlexLikeRock | or run one time and delete |
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