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| 08:52.36 | aggro | Hi, I'm trying to create a Debian package, but upstream contains binary files. And I don't know how to remove binary files from the upstream source package. Can anyone help? |
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| 08:53.36 | aggro | Normally you modify the source package by creating a patch with quilt, but I don't know how to remove entire directory with it. |
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| 09:45.35 | timtheli1n | Is there a good way to translate a link like this: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/hugs to a dowload link for an actual .deb file? |
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| 10:01.34 | wibrt | tim: are y looking for something like apache rewrite? |
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| 10:08.53 | forcer | timtheli1n: That link is missing at least the architecture to create any kind of download link. |
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| 10:20.49 | folivora | I am having this error: http://pastie.org/9165557 |
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| 10:36.48 | Mattx | Hello |
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| 10:37.05 | Mattx | do you happen to have the package sphinxsearch in testing? |
| 10:37.31 | Mattx | (I'm asking because I don't have it, even if I'm supposed to.. weird) |
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| 10:39.42 | ted20 | Mattx: Yeah, it's available |
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| 10:40.13 | Mattx | weird! |
| 10:40.26 | Mattx | can you show me your /etc/apt/source.list please? |
| 10:40.30 | Mattx | ted20, ^ |
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| 10:41.21 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
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| 10:42.38 | tobiasBora | I'm not sure I'm on the good canal but I don't know where to go... Does anyone knows if there is a way to check if a program is accessible (ie is in the path) inside a Makefile without using any shell command (system dependant) ? |
| 10:42.53 | tobiasBora | I would like something like "which" but for Makefile |
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| 10:50.18 | Mattx | tobiasBora, I don't think there is, but not sure. in that case I would try just calling it in a way that I know it won't crash, for example "foo -v" or something. anyway, not sure.. |
| 10:50.28 | ted20 | nncden: for testing? |
| 10:50.57 | ted20 | nncden: i'm sorry |
| 10:51.26 | ted20 | Mattx: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
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| 10:54.04 | tobiasBora | Mattx: And there is a way to have two differents behaviour if this command fail or not ? |
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| 11:01.14 | Mattx | of course, just check the exit status code |
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| 11:16.27 | skilz | How can I install my logitech webcam? |
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| 11:17.57 | tobiasBora | Mattx: With something like mycommand || (echo "mycommand failed $$?"; exit 1) ? |
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| 11:25.05 | phogg | tobiasBora: yes but you don't need a subshell: mycommand || { rc=$?; echo "mycommand failed with return code $rc"; exit $rc ; } |
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| 11:31.00 | ted20 | Debian supports Haswell audio (internal microphone)? |
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| 11:31.51 | skilz | Anyone got a nice config for rxvt-unicode |
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| 11:42.38 | realHans | Hi. I know this is off topic, but linux people mayknow this ;) My Problem: The ping to www.heise.de takes 21 ms. But open the page with my prowser tages *minutes*. Why ? (with other pages is the same). |
| 11:43.21 | skilz | How to install my logitech webcam? |
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| 11:43.47 | ted20 | skilz: hmm, it's easy |
| 11:44.02 | ted20 | skilz: webcams + linux go to google ;) |
| 11:45.14 | Metaleer | realHans: ##networking may be a better place to ask. |
| 11:45.32 | realHans | yes - I just found it .. thank you . |
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| 11:45.36 | skilz | Ive looked |
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| 11:45.50 | samugc47 | Hi |
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| 11:46.12 | ted20 | hi |
| 11:46.36 | skilz | ted20: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=logitech+c920&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=9mJvU4nbLqqN8Qee4IDAAw#channel=sb&q=logitech+c920+debian+driver&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official |
| 11:46.44 | skilz | Its a Logitech C920 HD |
| 11:46.57 | samugc47 | I am a experiment avanzed user in debian and i want to get some information to colaborate with the project |
| 11:47.00 | samugc47 | thanks |
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| 11:48.01 | ted20 | skilz: "C920 seems to work out of box with Ubuntu 10.04. I tested it with Cheese and Skype. There might be some added Windows specific functionality but probably nothing of value is missing." |
| 11:48.18 | sandman13 | this is some silly idea but what will happen if I install Kubuntu, do dist-upgrade, change the source to that of Debian 7 Wheezy (all of them) and then do an update? Am I left with broken OS? |
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| 11:49.55 | samugc47 | can any help me? |
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| 11:50.54 | petern_ | sandman13, very broken |
| 11:51.30 | sandman13 | petern_: is it because of the libs? |
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| 12:00.06 | Tasab | hello all , tried to fix my o/s debian wheezy , it only working on text basis , who can help me pls to fix this , would like to use GUI gnome3 gdm , thanks |
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| 12:00.44 | wols_ | Tasab: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 12:01.52 | ted20 | wols_: exactly ;) |
| 12:01.54 | Tasab | wols_, am using windows @ the moment , couple of hours will paste the requested - cheers |
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| 12:02.21 | jelly-home | sandman13: you're left with an unsupportable mess, a mix of different distributions |
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| 12:02.57 | sandman13 | ah okay better not to do that :D |
| 12:03.00 | jelly-home | sandman13: what us the problem do you think this approach could solve? |
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| 12:03.10 | jelly-home | s/do // |
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| 12:04.26 | sandman13 | jelly-home: my mind sometimes goes crazy and sometimes I suffer from SNS Syndrome especially when a theme in a DE works in other distros and not in Debian :D |
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| 12:20.39 | chrisoprase | Hi, I'm having some trouble playing mp3 audio with the html5 tag on iceweasel 24.5. I get this error on the console: HTTP "Content-Type" of "audio/mpeg" is not supported |
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| 12:21.13 | chrisoprase | I think the problem is iceweasel depends on the OS to render mp3 files, how can I set it up on debian? |
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| 12:28.13 | skilz | http://nmap.org/movies/dredd/dredd-nmap-trailer-screenshot-1589x805.jpg |
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| 12:28.45 | MrFrood | chrisoprase: do you have "gecko-mediaplayer" installed? |
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| 12:30.03 | chrisoprase | MrFrood: no |
| 12:30.18 | MrFrood | try installing it then |
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| 12:39.32 | whitebyte | how to enable touchpad on debian gnome ? |
| 12:39.54 | MrFrood | whitebyte: try not to crosspost please |
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| 12:41.16 | MrFrood | !tell whitebyte about touchpad |
| 12:41.24 | whitebyte | MrFood, if i will get some answer i wont do that! |
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| 12:42.01 | chrisoprase | MrFrood: I now have gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.6 installed, and a bunch of plugins are showing up on the about:plugins page, but the same error persists |
| 12:42.24 | MrFrood | chrisoprase: did you restart iceweasel? |
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| 12:42.39 | MrFrood | whitebyte: you have a mesage from the bot |
| 12:42.53 | chrisoprase | MrFrood: I started it with another profile, since I have lots of tabs opened |
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| 12:44.28 | MrFrood | chrisoprase: not sure if that would work but either way if the plugin not fix the issue you probably need someone else to kick in and help here and I imagine a pastebin of your error will help |
| 12:45.34 | tobiasBora | phogg: mattx : Thank you for your help ! |
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| 12:52.58 | skilz | feh WARNING: Ataraxia.jpg - No Imlib2 loader for that file format |
| 12:53.04 | skilz | ? |
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| 12:54.13 | somiaj | skilz: that is strange, what version of debian are you running again? |
| 12:54.21 | skilz | Wheezy |
| 12:54.29 | somiaj | skilz: or could it be that really isn't a jpg file (despite the name .jpg) on it? |
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| 12:55.12 | skilz | Damn |
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| 12:55.19 | skilz | I want to set it as my wallpaper |
| 12:55.30 | aaa | I am freaking out. Please someone help! For a long time my Debian Stable installation has been acting weird, but this happened now and I am doomed. I wanted to install Skype but for some reason when I installed some .deb package dependencies it asked to remove random packages. That part slipped up and I didn't notice it and now I have deleted dozen |
| 12:55.30 | aaa | s of basic packages such as xorg and ffmeg and I can't install anything because it says that I need to resolve a dependency that if I try to resolve it doesn't let me! Here is the output of apt-get install -f and apt-get install (some random package): http://paste.debian.net/98813/ Unfortunately I can't just reinstall the system because I don't hav |
| 12:55.30 | aaa | e anything to put my almost 1TB of data on, and I don't know if I have home on a separate partition |
| 12:55.43 | aaa | Please :_: |
| 12:55.45 | somiaj | skilz: well seems strange that feh isn't working on that .jpg file, lets first make sure that is not the issue |
| 12:55.58 | somiaj | skilz: dpkg -l | grep jpg (do you have any jpg libs installed)? |
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| 12:56.08 | skilz | Also, can I install Debian on my iPhone 4 |
| 12:56.09 | somiaj | skilz: sorry grep jpeg |
| 12:56.24 | skilz | Just 'grep jpeg'? |
| 12:57.18 | somiaj | aaa: I don't see anything major there, you just have packages set on auto and need to change that. does 'apt-get install gnome' fix the list of packages that are set for autoremove? |
| 12:57.31 | somiaj | skilz: dpkg -l | grep jpeg (see what jpeg libaries you have installed) |
| 12:57.44 | aaa | the same message pops up |
| 12:58.05 | aaa | random dependencies that can't be solved with install -f |
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| 12:58.33 | somiaj | aaa: sorry I didn't see the second line, can you give me the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
| 12:58.34 | skilz | somiaj, http://paste.debian.net/98814/ |
| 12:58.51 | sandman13 | Sound is not coming off my speakers, what could be the reason? |
| 12:59.03 | somiaj | !tell sandman13 about alsa checklist |
| 12:59.18 | somiaj | sandman13: first determine if you are running pulseaudio or not |
| 12:59.31 | aaa | http://paste.debian.net/98815/ |
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| 13:00.11 | somiaj | skilz: wget http://zensites.net/albums/widescreen/1280x720/Kaweah_Ridge.jpg -- then try feh on that .jpg file, do you get the same error? |
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| 13:01.37 | skilz | somiaj, It works! |
| 13:01.54 | skilz | So my image is not a jpeg file? |
| 13:02.00 | skilz | Is there some work-around? |
| 13:02.04 | somiaj | skilz: correct, you can use imagemagick and try to convert it |
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| 13:02.15 | somiaj | skilz: it would be best if you knew what it's format was though |
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| 13:02.36 | aaa | Does it say anything important? |
| 13:02.53 | aaa | the cache policy |
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| 13:03.08 | somiaj | aaa: just run apt-get -f install (notice you have tons of things that are listed, but apt-get will not uninstall them) |
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| 13:03.27 | aaa | but that doesn't do anything |
| 13:03.31 | somiaj | aaa: on your original post 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. -- only 1 package will be installed, so actually say Y to the apt-get -f isntall |
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| 13:03.45 | somiaj | aaa: it should install the libpulse0:i386 package, which is what youw ant |
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| 13:03.54 | aaa | ok let me try |
| 13:03.58 | chrisoprase | MrFrood: Restarted iceweasel, but it didn't help, here's the errors I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/sVzkm3W0, I think only "HTTP "Content-Type" of "audio/mpeg" is not supported" is relevant |
| 13:04.04 | skilz | somiaj, Here is the image http://t.wallpaperweb.org/wallpaper/abstract/1600x1200/Ataraxia.jpg |
| 13:04.18 | aaa | it says it can't be installed |
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| 13:04.44 | aaa | http://paste.debian.net/98817/ |
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| 13:05.08 | somiaj | skilz: try to redownload the .jpg file, maybe the file is just corrupt, feh shows it just fine here (though I am running sid) |
| 13:05.27 | sandman13 | somiaj: how to check if pulseaudio is installed or not? |
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| 13:05.45 | somiaj | sandman13: dpkg -l | grep pulse (will check if it is installed), 'ps fax | grep pulse' will check if it is running |
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| 13:06.00 | dr0 | Have som sound-trouble here, as usual after a fresh install. Im using jessie, and have two soundcards, one that is integrated and one that is usb, i want the usb to be the primary one, can i just change the options snd-usb-audio index=-2 in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to =1 ? |
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| 13:06.42 | skilz | somiaj, What do you think of the image? |
| 13:06.48 | dr0 | alsamixer seems to find both of the cards |
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| 13:07.52 | somiaj | skilz: eh, didn't reallyt hink mcuh about it, I just tested it. I would try to redownlaod the image, and see if that works, give me a second I'll test it on my wheezy box |
| 13:08.12 | somiaj | dr0: do you use alsa or pulseauido? |
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| 13:08.41 | somiaj | aaa: did you ever change the file /etc/pulse/client.conf, seems there is an error with that file |
| 13:08.42 | dr0 | somiaj: alsa, i think, how can i be sure? |
| 13:08.53 | somiaj | dr0: ps fax | grep pulse (just make sure it isn't running) |
| 13:08.53 | aaa | I don' think so |
| 13:08.57 | aaa | At least not manually |
| 13:09.00 | sandman13 | somiaj: i see libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd64 and other two libs |
| 13:09.12 | somiaj | sandman13: the main thing is pulse audio running? |
| 13:09.36 | skilz | somiaj, It's okay I found another |
| 13:09.37 | dr0 | pulseaudio is not running |
| 13:09.41 | skilz | Without the watermark |
| 13:09.43 | sandman13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.49 | pigeta | hi all i have a problem in a build |
| 13:09.54 | pigeta | http://pastebin.com/C8yyURun |
| 13:10.04 | pigeta | i dont know what i can do |
| 13:10.05 | somiaj | sandman13: okay you are not running pulse, so alsa is it, follow though the instructions on the alsa check list I cent you from the bot |
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| 13:10.43 | aaa | But pulseaudio is related to apt? |
| 13:10.50 | dr0 | somiaj: pulseaudio is not running |
| 13:10.52 | somiaj | dr0: http://paste.debian.net/98818/ -- you can use $HOME/.asoundrc to set defaults for that user, there is an example, replace X,Y with the correct card,device you want as default |
| 13:10.56 | aaa | I thought pulseaudio was somethng else |
| 13:11.05 | somiaj | aaa: pulseaudio is for the people having sound issues |
| 13:11.15 | somiaj | aaa: have to make sure it is not running for my alsa advise to help |
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| 13:11.31 | MrFrood | chrisoprase: gecko-mediaplayer should take care of an mp3 file - You need someone who knows more about iceweasel than I do - perhaps somiaj can help you when they have finished with sandman13? |
| 13:11.32 | aaa | ????? |
| 13:11.33 | somiaj | aaa: anyways you have some strange bug, I'm not sure the best way to fix this, but I have some ideas. |
| 13:11.35 | whitebyte | MrFrood, i did what bot said. installed the package. Nothing works yet! I dont have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf . So should i create the xorg.conf.d folder and the file synaptics.conf ?? |
| 13:12.07 | MrFrood | whitebyte: wigust is helping you |
| 13:12.10 | chrisoprase | MrFrood: thanks for your time |
| 13:12.18 | aaa | oh sure let's hear |
| 13:12.19 | aaa | thanks |
| 13:12.33 | MrFrood | whitebyte: keep it in just the one channel |
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| 13:12.51 | whitebyte | MrFrood, Okay |
| 13:12.59 | somiaj | aaa: first guess, mv /etc/pulse/client.conf /etc/pulse/client.conf-bak (then try to install libpulse0:i386 again) |
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| 13:13.38 | somiaj | aaa: almost wonder if you have some strange multiarch issue, but that package installs just fine here. I cannot think of what happened to cause your issues |
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| 13:14.23 | aaa | it has been installed! |
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| 13:14.27 | aaa | yey |
| 13:14.31 | aaa | what do now? |
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| 13:15.08 | somiaj | aaa: seems like it has been installed, and you have installed the gnome meta package make it so it doesn't want to auto-remove things, so it should be fixed |
| 13:15.21 | sandman13 | somiaj: I am on the "audio" group but I can't find alsamixer |
| 13:15.37 | aaa | But how can I reinstall all those packages that I deleted? |
| 13:15.37 | sandman13 | btw I can hear sounds from headphones though |
| 13:15.40 | somiaj | aaa: note you may run into issues with moving that confg file, if you run across pluseissues (if you use it) you may have to figure out what that config really needs to be |
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| 13:15.50 | somiaj | aaa: that list of packages wansn't deleted just set to be autoremoved |
| 13:15.56 | somiaj | aaa: but just apt-get install them now |
| 13:16.08 | somiaj | sandman13: apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 13:16.30 | skilz | How can I install Debian on my iPhone 4? |
| 13:16.34 | skilz | Or Linux? |
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| 13:21.26 | themill | Guest95346: please stop that |
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| 13:22.57 | sandman13 | now it's working thanks somiaj |
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| 13:23.16 | pigeta | anyhelp? |
| 13:23.17 | somiaj | sandman13: you are welcome. enjoy the sound (: |
| 13:23.27 | sandman13 | somiaj: okay |
| 13:23.44 | somiaj | pigeta: ask your question |
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| 13:25.03 | pigeta | i have this error http://pastebin.com/C8yyURun |
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| 13:25.18 | pigeta | i m not able to solve it |
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| 13:26.36 | somiaj | pigeta: since we have no idea what this compile-fst.sh script is it will be hard to give you good advise. I'd ask the makers of the script. But it looks like you are missing the libar libfstscript.so.1 (try apt-cache search libfstscript) |
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| 13:27.24 | somiaj | pigeta: but it looks like that libary is not availiable in debian. What is it you are reallying trying to install/compile? |
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| 13:27.45 | aaa | sorry it froze |
| 13:27.52 | aaa | so I don't know if you have replied |
| 13:27.58 | pigeta | well actualy im workin on raspbian |
| 13:28.13 | somiaj | pigeta: then you are in the wrong place |
| 13:28.18 | somiaj | !raspbian |
| 13:28.19 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 13:28.35 | somiaj | aaa: now that you fixed the broken package, apt-get install what you want, should work fine. |
| 13:28.38 | pigeta | eh eh well i thought was the same |
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| 13:29.08 | aaa | It works! Thanks a lot somiaj |
| 13:29.17 | somiaj | pigeta: it is not, and the main issue might be ask support of whoever provided that script you are trying to run |
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| 13:29.36 | aaa | You really have saved me |
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| 13:30.24 | aaa | well bye then |
| 13:30.31 | somiaj | dr0: please respond in the channel. What isn't working. Use aplay -L to list the sound cards and devices to make sure you use the right numbers |
| 13:30.34 | aaa | again thanks a lot somiaj |
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| 13:31.05 | somiaj | dr0: no need to msg me, aplay -L will list the cards and the corresponding devices on the card. |
| 13:31.11 | somiaj | aaa: glad it worked, (: |
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| 13:31.30 | skilz | How to install flash? |
| 13:31.34 | somiaj | aaa: again if you use pulse you may run across issues because of moving that config file, just remober you did that |
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| 13:31.53 | somiaj | skilz: if you have contrib configured in your sources.list, 'apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' |
| 13:32.22 | somiaj | dr0: again keep the converastion int he channel, and i told you a command to look them up, aplay -L |
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| 13:33.18 | somiaj | dr0: sorry aplay -l (lowercase will give you better info) |
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| 13:34.24 | dr0 | somiaj: thank you, i've not sent anything more to you on pm. :) i am trying now |
| 13:34.46 | somiaj | dr0: no problem, but yes aplay -l will list all the cards and the devices on them |
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| 13:36.14 | spyder | I had removed iceweasel from my system and now apt-get is showing a vast list of important programs to be removed. how do i get them to not be removed if i ever need to run apt-get autoremove? |
| 13:36.50 | somiaj | spyder: care to share that list at paste.debian.net |
| 13:37.01 | spyder | somiaj: ok |
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| 13:37.47 | somiaj | spyder: but you can change the auto/manual flags on a package, apt-get install foo (will set an auto flag to manual) |
| 13:38.07 | somiaj | was lokoing for a nice dpkg factoid but so far no luck on your situation spyder |
| 13:38.19 | spyder | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/98821/ |
| 13:38.24 | brainwash | or via apt-mark manual foo |
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| 13:40.04 | somiaj | spyder: looks like the meta package for your DE depends on iceweasel, so removeing iceweasel removed the meta package (so most things behind are now auto and nothing depends on them) |
| 13:40.24 | somiaj | spyder: you probabaly want to keep the auto flag on the libs/supplementary packages, but will want to go mark the main packages as manual |
| 13:40.43 | spyder | somiaj: so installing gnome will solve it most probably? |
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| 13:40.57 | somiaj | spyder: that will probabaly pull icweasel back in though |
| 13:41.12 | somiaj | spyder: as in I bet gnome depends on that package as it consideres it the gnome browers of choice |
| 13:41.35 | spyder | somiaj: ok |
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| 13:44.56 | dr0 | somiaj: Thank you, it works :P |
| 13:45.01 | somiaj | dr0: (: |
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| 13:46.25 | pdanek | Is anyone here from Whitehorse? :) |
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| 13:46.45 | Paradisee | hello |
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| 13:47.10 | ted20 | hi |
| 13:47.20 | ted20 | Where's font without utf-8? |
| 13:47.26 | Paradisee | i've installed debian testing on a laptop, but i'm not able to enable the wifi, is there any way to do that? |
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| 13:48.03 | somiaj | Paradisee: you need to figure out what wifi card you have, most likely you need to install non-free firmware to get it to work |
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| 13:48.28 | somiaj | ted20: dpkg-reconfigure locales pick the non utf-8 locale, like en_US vs en_US.UTF-8 |
| 13:48.34 | Paradisee | how can see which one am i running |
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| 13:48.41 | somiaj | ted20: or set it with the LANG variable |
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| 13:48.59 | somiaj | Paradisee: lspci (look for your network card (wireless) in that list) |
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| 13:49.32 | ted20 | somiaj: I said font... I'm not noob, i know dpkg, etc... ;) |
| 13:50.02 | Paradisee | got it |
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| 13:50.09 | ted20 | somiaj: I use debian about 5-6 years ;) |
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| 13:54.06 | themill | ted20: what are you really trying to do here? |
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| 13:54.14 | somiaj | ted20: I woudln't know then, my understanding is a non utf8 locale will just use the non utf8 characters from the font |
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| 13:56.22 | ted20 | somiaj: Not always, is chromium/firefox/whatever uses utf-8 and I can't disbale it, so it's odd |
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| 13:56.35 | ted20 | somiaj: Not always, chromium/firefox/whatever uses utf-8 and I can't disbale it, so it's odd |
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| 13:57.06 | ted20 | What for? For only testing ;) |
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| 13:57.52 | skilz | Anyone fond of the Apple keyboards? |
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| 13:58.11 | somiaj | skilz: not really a debian question there, I think they are too small. (: |
| 13:58.21 | dahveed311 | skillz: i used one for a while |
| 13:58.39 | backSlasher | Anyone familiar with apt-get upgrading custom-built packages to the same version? |
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| 13:58.48 | skilz | They have a good feel. The numeric pad full-sized ones are good. |
| 13:58.53 | themill | ted20: forcing the browser to pretend that utf-8 data is actually some other encoding makes as much sense as telling it to pretend that a png is a jpg. |
| 13:59.06 | petn-randall | Hi backSlasher, ask your real question please. |
| 13:59.13 | skilz | Thinking of getting one but will it work ok with Debian? |
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| 13:59.47 | petn-randall | skilz: Very likely, I'm guessing it'll just register via USB as a HID. |
| 13:59.48 | backSlasher | Sure. I built a custom package and I have a reprepro repository, and whenever I do apt-get upgrade it always upgrades it |
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| 14:00.04 | themill | backSlasher: a different package should have a different version string |
| 14:00.11 | themill | dpkg: tell backSlasher about package recompile |
| 14:00.15 | Roland- | if there a way to install a more recent version of vsftpd ? |
| 14:00.20 | Roland- | beside compiling it |
| 14:00.24 | somiaj | ,v vsftpd |
| 14:00.25 | judd | Package: vsftpd on i386 -- squeeze: 2.3.2-3+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 2.3.2-3+squeeze2; wheezy: 2.3.5-3; jessie: 3.0.2-14; sid: 3.0.2-14 |
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| 14:00.47 | somiaj | Roland-: since a backport is not provided you'll have to compile it yourself |
| 14:00.48 | Roland- | hmz yes, jessie seems to be it |
| 14:00.53 | Roland- | alright |
| 14:01.12 | somiaj | Roland-: you do not want to install jessie packages on wheezy, but /msg dpkg ssb, my guess is that package will backport fairly easy |
| 14:01.21 | Paradisee | "your network is probaby not using the dhcp protocol. alternatively, the dhcp server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properly" |
| 14:01.21 | petn-randall | Roland-: You can't install the package from jessie on a wheezy machine, you need to backport it. |
| 14:01.28 | Paradisee | that's what i get from the installation |
| 14:01.31 | somiaj | Roland-: you could also build the .deb in a chroot or vm, so you dot' have to isntall all the build tools on your machine. |
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| 14:01.41 | backSlasher | It's the same package and has the same hash. Looks like this: http://pastebin.com/0kGF7vHH |
| 14:01.44 | petn-randall | Paradisee: And is the installer right? |
| 14:01.49 | Paradisee | y |
| 14:01.50 | Roland- | I will just compile it that should do it |
| 14:02.02 | ted20 | themill: It sounds like windows, and their "power point"... |
| 14:02.13 | ted20 | Simply I mean that http://pkgs.org/centos-6/centos-i386/xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi-7.2-9.1.el6.noarch.rpm.html |
| 14:02.22 | themill | ted20: you're not making much sense there |
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| 14:02.26 | petn-randall | Roland-: You'll loose the security support by Debian though if you install the newer version. Is there a reason you can't use the one in wheezy? |
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| 14:03.23 | backSlasher | And the funny thing is that when viewing apt-cache dump, you can see a small differance between the dependencies and that's about it: http://pastebin.com/vzVG04wD |
| 14:03.24 | ted20 | themill: Today is the weekend ;) |
| 14:03.31 | Roland- | yes I need chroot for users and it seems I need allow_writeable_chroot=YES option |
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| 14:04.25 | Paradisee | it seems like the wifi can't work properly on this devide |
| 14:04.27 | Paradisee | ce* |
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| 14:04.45 | petn-randall | backSlasher: What does 'apt-cache policy gimp-ace' give you? Btw, use http://paste.debian.net, then people don't need javascript to see the paste. |
| 14:04.54 | somiaj | Paradisee: I missed, did you ever firgure out what wifi card you have. Care to share it with us? |
| 14:05.10 | backSlasher | srory petn-randall. just a sec |
| 14:05.20 | Paradisee | too late, i'm trying to installing debian again |
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| 14:05.38 | somiaj | !tell Paradisee about nonfree images |
| 14:05.47 | themill | backSlasher: apt can tell the difference and your pinning tells it to upgrade to the repo version. It is not the same package and it does not have the same hashes. |
| 14:05.50 | Roland- | actualy vsftpd is very easy to compile, seems so just make and I replaced the package bin. |
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| 14:06.11 | somiaj | !tell Paradisee about firmware images |
| 14:06.18 | backSlasher | there it is: http://paste.debian.net/98823/ |
| 14:06.26 | backSlasher | I added aptitude for reference |
| 14:06.40 | somiaj | Paradisee: those non-free firmware images have the firmware included and better chance your wifi card will work with that (since you wont' tell us what wifi card you have) |
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| 14:07.12 | backSlasher | I thought it saw something different, so I did apt-cache dump and searched for the two versions and got this http://paste.debian.net/98824/ |
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| 14:07.50 | backSlasher | and the server repo has two lines that look like " Depends: none (null)" |
| 14:08.09 | backSlasher | the installed package doesn't have those, and I couldn't understand why they're there |
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| 14:16.49 | backSlasher | so themill petn-randall any thoughts? If I look at the dump the package has the same hash, only the "dpeneds: none (null)" is different. And I have no pinning, only the source |
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| 14:17.39 | themill | backSlasher: is this a locally recompiled package or is this your own mirror? |
| 14:17.48 | backSlasher | locally recompiled |
| 14:18.27 | themill | so it should have a different version string. As I said, it is a different package and apt can tell the difference. |
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| 14:19.34 | backSlasher | themill, if I understand you correctly you mean the "Version: XXX". It's the same one. http://paste.debian.net/98824/ |
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| 14:20.03 | themill | backSlasher: Yes.All packages have a version string and it should uniquely identify the package. |
| 14:20.36 | backSlasher | themill, If you could please peek in the paste link, it shows they have the exact same version. I even checked for hidden charachters etc. |
| 14:20.50 | sussudio | there must be an easier way to force reallocation of pending sectors than trying to apply decade old howto's that don't seem to be relevant anymore... |
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| 14:21.36 | themill | backSlasher: that is part of the problem. They should not. |
| 14:22.02 | backSlasher | themill, why? It's the same package. I don't want it upgraded, apt-get decides it isn't |
| 14:22.07 | petn-randall | sussudio: You can only fix pending sectors by writing to them. Since it's a sign of a failing disk, either scrub your RAID, or restore from backups. |
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| 14:22.20 | backSlasher | my issue is them being "upgraded" again and again to the same package |
| 14:22.27 | themill | backSlasher: it is not the same package... |
| 14:22.38 | themill | [00:17] <backSlasher> locally recompiled |
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| 14:22.42 | boodie | Hi; I reinstalled the system. It's giving me some problems with the "default WM" (it freezes on start), while gnome, KDE, WMaker & XFCE work fine. Is there a chance that, by installing the nvidia drivers, the performance might improve? |
| 14:22.54 | somiaj | backSlasher: he is saying you need to append a custom version string to your package that makes it different than the debian one. |
| 14:23.01 | backSlasher | themill, Maybe I didn't use the right term. It's a package I created myself |
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| 14:23.35 | sussudio | petn-randall: it's at a datacentre, there's been failed test before, apparently and they didn't swap out the drive... also, they should stop buying seagate consumer drives. |
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| 14:23.42 | sussudio | well, barely consumer drives. |
| 14:23.52 | backSlasher | We buit it from PHP PECL I think, uploaded it to our repository and installed it using apt-get, which worked fine |
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| 14:24.20 | somiaj | backSlasher: or just put your custom package on hold. Though I would follow the package recompile factoid about how to append your own custom version string |
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| 14:24.41 | skilz | Linux on iPhone????? |
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| 14:24.50 | sussudio | putting the drives through a 7x erase dban cycle between clients should filter out the bad drives... |
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| 14:25.27 | sussudio | skilz: android uses a linux kernel |
| 14:25.39 | skilz | But is it possible? |
| 14:25.50 | sussudio | i just answered that |
| 14:25.56 | sussudio | millions of phones say yes. |
| 14:25.57 | Paradisee | somiaj: 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101EE Wirless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
| 14:26.02 | jelly-home | skilz: that does not sound like a debian question, or a question at all. But no, noone has put Linux on that closed platform. |
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| 14:28.00 | somiaj | Paradisee: the non-free firmware is what you'll need for that card, you'll either have to copy it over once you get your system installed fomr your cd/usb, or use the firmware images |
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| 14:28.07 | somiaj | Paradisee: or install it over a wired connenction |
| 14:28.28 | Paradisee | you sure? |
| 14:28.35 | skilz | jelly-home, This is all I could really find http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com.au/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html |
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| 14:28.49 | boodie | Hi (stable): nvidia-detect claims my card is "supported by the default drivers and version 173" ... is it safe to install them? At the moment I am with nouveau. |
| 14:29.22 | somiaj | Paradisee: If you could get me the pciid, 'lspci -vnn' I could be more percise, but looking, one second |
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| 14:30.28 | Paradisee | ill make a screenshot one sec |
| 14:30.39 | somiaj | Paradisee: but it does look like it is supported, so don't worry about it |
| 14:30.57 | somiaj | Paradisee: from the firmware-realtek package, Realtek RTL8188EE firmware (rtlwifi/rtl8188efw.bin) -- which was the chipset you pasted |
| 14:31.04 | Tasab_ | file xorg.o.log , not found in the directory /var/log , how i can create to enable me log on graphic formats instead of text mode , pls hlp - tks |
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| 14:31.16 | somiaj | Tasab_: Xorg.0.log |
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| 14:31.30 | backSlasher | somiaj, themill, maybe I didn't explain myself properly. I made my own package using dh-make-php and dpkg. It's hosted on reprepro, and installed using "apt-get install gimp-ace", which works fine (as in the package deploys and the application using the file is happy. My issue is that apt-get always wants to upgrade this package to the same one, even though they have the same version. You can see here how "apt-cache policy" for my pa |
| 14:31.30 | backSlasher | ckage differs from the normal one: http://paste.debian.net/98823/ |
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| 14:31.34 | Tasab_ | somiaj, yes |
| 14:31.36 | somiaj | Tasab_: case is important and that isa 0. |
| 14:31.43 | Paradisee | somiaj: so the problem are the driver right? |
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| 14:33.36 | somiaj | Paradisee: problem is the driver requires additional non-free firmware which is not included in debian main, so you have to either included non-free or use the non-free isntaller. |
| 14:33.36 | themill | backSlasher: that indicates that apt can tell the difference between the two packages. Perhaps you can pastebin the output of "apt-cache show gimp-ace" |
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| 14:34.55 | backSlasher | themill, sure http://paste.debian.net/98830/ |
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| 14:35.29 | Paradisee | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 14:35.44 | Paradisee | areenought? |
| 14:35.45 | skilz | No sound is coming when I play youtube videos |
| 14:36.00 | skilz | But mp3s work fine with rhythmbox |
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| 14:36.15 | somiaj | Paradisee: correct those are the non-free firmware images you can use to get your network up druing the install |
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| 14:36.42 | somiaj | skilz: do you have multiple sound cards? Could it be you don't have software mixing enabled? |
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| 14:36.46 | wuffi600 | hi |
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| 14:37.10 | skilz | somiaj, Yes I do have 2. How do I enable software mixing? |
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| 14:37.35 | wuffi600 | I would like to run boinc. But if started it immideately terminates. http://paste.debian.net/98831/ Could you give me a hint please? |
| 14:37.40 | somiaj | skilz: depends on your setup, how do you configure what sound card is used? |
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| 14:38.10 | Tasab_ | somiaj, any help pls ? tks |
| 14:38.18 | skilz | But the thing is it was working earlier. Then I installed flashplugin-non-free and youtube kept stuffing up |
| 14:38.33 | skilz | Videos wouldnt play. Kept getting Error Occured msg |
| 14:38.36 | somiaj | Tasab_: what do you need help with? |
| 14:38.46 | skilz | So I removed it then now the sound doesn't work for it |
| 14:39.20 | skilz | I only installed the flash plugin coz I kept getting a message saying flash is missing but the videos would play fine with sound too. Just the message was annoying |
| 14:39.29 | Tasab_ | my debian wheezy working only on text mode no graphic tried to fix but failed |
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| 14:40.15 | somiaj | Tasab_: do you know what graphics card you have? |
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| 14:41.33 | Tasab_ | somiaj, early mrng wols advise me to pastebin the file /var/log/xorg.0.log but the same file no found ... |
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| 14:42.07 | somiaj | Tasab_: the file is Xorg.0.log -- notice the captial X |
| 14:42.11 | Tasab_ | will be back in few mins , sori - hv some friend around |
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| 14:43.14 | backSlasher | themill, any thoughts about my dump? http://paste.debian.net/98830/ |
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| 14:45.17 | skilz | somiaj, |
| 14:45.20 | skilz | ? |
| 14:45.55 | somiaj | skilz: yea not sure what the issue is, I would debug it, figure out what sound card rythembox is using, figure out if multiple programs can access the sound card at teh same time |
| 14:46.11 | somiaj | skilz: do you run pulseaudio or are you using alsa? |
| 14:46.13 | themill | backSlasher: perhaps you could pastebin the relevant stanzas from the Packages file |
| 14:46.25 | skilz | Yeah they can, I was listening to mp3 and watch youtube before fine |
| 14:46.36 | skilz | somiaj, I use alsamixer |
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| 14:46.44 | backSlasher | themill, I can but they're the same. I think this (from apt-get dump) is more interesting: http://paste.debian.net/98824/ |
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| 14:46.57 | skilz | Myabe a reboot might help |
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| 14:48.06 | somiaj | skilz: cat /proc/asound/cards -- what sound card(s) are being used now |
| 14:48.13 | somiaj | skilz: could ti be your sound cards switched order? |
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| 14:50.36 | skilz | somiaj, http://pastebin.debian.net/98835 |
| 14:51.22 | somiaj | skilz: that is a bad link, it is paste.debian.net |
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| 14:51.37 | somiaj | skilz: which card are you expecting sound to come out of? |
| 14:52.01 | skilz | http://paste.debian.net/98835 |
| 14:52.03 | skilz | sorry |
| 14:52.05 | skilz | Not sure |
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| 14:52.20 | somiaj | well check the rythembox settings, which card is is set to? |
| 14:52.21 | skilz | HDA Intel |
| 14:52.25 | skilz | Which one is better? |
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| 14:52.44 | r420r | hi guys how i can update my system without kernel update ? |
| 14:52.52 | skilz | HDA Creative? |
| 14:52.56 | skilz | IS that better? |
| 14:53.10 | r420r | aptitude update ? |
| 14:53.20 | somiaj | hm, well I was just check that maybe iceweasel was trying to play audio on sound card 0, while your speakers are pluged into sound card 2 |
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| 14:53.35 | somiaj | skilz: the better one is the one your speakers are pluged into, they are different cards |
| 14:53.44 | skilz | Nah I plugged into the other soundcard and nothing |
| 14:53.49 | somiaj | r420r: what is it you are really wanting to do, why don't you want to upgrade your kernel? |
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| 14:54.08 | somiaj | !tell skilz about alsa checklist |
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| 14:54.22 | r420r | somiaj i installed wireless module |
| 14:54.29 | r420r | i using rasbian |
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| 14:54.38 | r420r | i dont want change kernel for that |
| 14:54.41 | Paradisee | somiaj: is that firmware.iso, compatible with debian testin? |
| 14:54.43 | somiaj | r420r: this is not the place for raspbian help |
| 14:54.50 | r420r | it is debian too |
| 14:54.50 | somiaj | !raspbian |
| 14:54.51 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 14:54.56 | somiaj | it is not debian |
| 14:55.02 | r420r | =) |
| 14:55.17 | skilz | -bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf: Permission denied |
| 14:55.19 | somiaj | Paradisee: the suggested way to install testing is to install a minimial debian stable (that will install a minimial stable version) |
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| 14:55.47 | backSlasher | themill, Did you see the file? If you don't think it's relevant please tell me what file to pastebin for you |
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| 14:56.07 | somiaj | Paradisee: so don't install any additional software with that install medium (i.e. unselect desktop, servers, etc). Change your sources.list to jessie then upgrade. |
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| 14:56.46 | Paradisee | isnt the same thing, installing testing directly? |
| 14:57.03 | Paradisee | instead upgrading later on |
| 14:57.07 | somiaj | Paradisee: the testing installer is not alwayst the best thing to install testing with |
| 14:57.09 | Artemis3 | somiaj, Paradisee expert mode allows installing testing directly using the stable installer |
| 14:57.10 | somiaj | !testing installer |
| 14:57.10 | dpkg | Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 14:57.30 | somiaj | Artemis3: I must have missed that, is it in choosing the mirrors/sources place? |
| 14:57.35 | Artemis3 | and yes Paradisee, don't use the testing installer, thing might be broken |
| 14:57.39 | Tasab__ | somiaj, wtz yr guess about the Xorg.0.log |
| 14:57.56 | somiaj | Tasab__: I have no clue unless you put that file at paste.debian.net |
| 14:58.08 | Artemis3 | somiaj, a bit after that, but enable expert mode or priority=low at grub boot optinos |
| 14:58.10 | Paradisee | Artemis3: well, then i have to download the stable one, pretty boring |
| 14:58.14 | somiaj | Tasab__: if that file doesn't exist you don't have xorg on your system, if so what DE/wm do you want to use? |
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| 14:58.41 | somiaj | Artemis3: yea I always use expert mode, but I must have skimmed over the selection. |
| 14:58.55 | somiaj | Paradisee: the stable installer (use the stable installer to install testing) |
| 14:58.56 | Artemis3 | Paradisee, use the netinstall which is only 20mb :) its called mini.iso |
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| 14:59.31 | Artemis3 | somiaj, there is a point when it asks if you want stable, testing or unstable (yes, using the stable isntaller in expert) |
| 14:59.41 | Paradisee | probably wont be able to make it done without de |
| 15:00.02 | somiaj | Artemis3: it must be something on the mini.iso, I always prefer the netinsatll |
| 15:00.03 | zykotick9 | Artemis3: mini.iso is an ubuntu thing, not debian... |
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| 15:00.23 | Tasab__ | wtz the posibility to create the same file , somiaj |
| 15:00.37 | Tasab__ | i prefered gnome3 gmd GUI |
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| 15:01.16 | Artemis3 | zykotick9, care to take a look here?: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ |
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| 15:01.40 | Artemis3 | zykotick9, and read us loud the name of the file pĺease? |
| 15:01.49 | zykotick9 | Artemis3: ok, sorry, but that a netboot != netinst |
| 15:02.07 | Artemis3 | mini.iso launchs debian isntaller, thats all that matters |
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| 15:02.33 | Artemis3 | as long as you are connected, you install from it the same as with any other iso |
| 15:02.35 | skilz | How do I see what sound card firefox is using? |
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| 15:03.14 | somiaj | Artemis3: that won't contain non-free firmware though, I think only the netinstall is made with non-free firmware |
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| 15:04.07 | Artemis3 | somiaj, nonfree-firmware is not bundled in the official isos, but there are unofficial images with them |
| 15:04.16 | Artemis3 | ok firmware-nonfree :) |
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| 15:04.55 | Artemis3 | i use firmware-7.5.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso for installs :) |
| 15:05.16 | Artemis3 | and yes its the same, you can install testing or unstable from it |
| 15:05.19 | somiaj | which is not the netboot image you talked about, and I also don't see the option to select testing from the netinstaller |
| 15:05.25 | Artemis3 | with a bit less of downloading |
| 15:06.02 | Artemis3 | it is somiaj but im not bother enough to install again in qemu just to capture you the part where it allows choosing that (i did last week tho) |
| 15:06.24 | somiaj | Artemis3: I'm looking at it right now, again I think it might be an option special to the netboot images |
| 15:06.35 | backSlasher | somiaj, Maybe you can help me? I don't understand why "apt-get upgrade" keeps installing my package over and over, and the only suspicious thing I can see is when running "apt-get dump": http://paste.debian.net/98837/ |
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| 15:07.01 | Artemis3 | well it shows with mini.iso thats for sure, i'll do an install later with the firmware one just to be sure |
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| 15:09.13 | somiaj | backSlasher: I can't think of anything else. :/ |
| 15:09.44 | backSlasher | somiaj, are you familiar with this " Depends: none (null)" on the list? It's the only difference I can spot |
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| 15:11.26 | somiaj | backSlasher: yea I saw that too, not really sure. My only guess is there are some extra Depends: listed in the packges depends list (or what ever datatype stores it) that just have a place keeper but a null string in them |
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| 15:12.07 | somiaj | backSlasher: and the server is reporting these extra null place keepers that the local version might just get rid of or somethign like that. Seems something strange with the Depends: datatype inside the actual packages. |
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| 15:12.36 | backSlasher | somiaj, I noticed it only happens with my packages (and not the packages from "real" repoistories). Think there's any use using wireshark or something? |
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| 15:13.31 | somiaj | backSlasher: that says to me it is something with how you create your packages or your local mirror, I would have on clue where to look for this though. |
| 15:14.31 | backSlasher | somiaj, ok ty |
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| 15:15.08 | somiaj | backSlasher: I'm unsure if #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net would be to help or not, but that is a good place for packaging questions |
| 15:15.12 | Artemis3 | somiaj, well it looks like you need mini.iso for the installer to ask you, but there must be some fancy debian installer option for it |
| 15:15.40 | somiaj | Artemis3: well the netinstaller contains a base system, which is nice, don't need the network for that (which is why I prefer it). |
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| 15:16.10 | Artemis3 | mini.iso downloads that base system, maybe that is why it asks you if you want testing or unstable instead, as it needs to download it anyway |
| 15:16.13 | backSlasher | somiaj, it's inactive but I'll see what I find. Thanks |
| 15:16.23 | somiaj | Artemis3: but installing a base system then upgrading is what I do for testing installs, though I'll have to rember the netboot can avoid that. |
| 15:16.47 | somiaj | backSlasher: you joined the irc.oftc.net (another irc network) first right? And be paitent they sometimes take a while to respond |
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| 15:17.08 | Artemis3 | somiaj, i install a lot using pxe and preseed i love that iso, and you can actually add the firmwares but meh :) |
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| 15:18.13 | backSlasher | somiaj, right you are, wrong server |
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| 15:23.01 | Kelticfox | waves |
| 15:23.16 | Kelticfox | so as I was saying.... Webmin uninstalled |
| 15:24.20 | skilz | somiaj, I figured out the problem. |
| 15:24.31 | skilz | WHen I stopped rhythmbox it worked |
| 15:24.38 | skilz | It was blocking up the soundcard |
| 15:24.53 | skilz | But I dont understand why I could play muliple sounds before? |
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| 15:26.07 | hfp | Hey guys, is it possible to take a snapshot of a Debian machine to restore it if I mess up further configuration? I have etckeeper but I found that rolling back /etc/ isn't enough to recover from a bad install as packages are still installed |
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| 15:28.25 | nkuttler | !tell Kelticfox about ssh keys |
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| 15:29.21 | ToApolytoXaos | is anyone else facing a problem with PHP after upgraded to the latest packages (debian testing 64-bit)? |
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| 15:30.04 | nkuttler | ToApolytoXaos: no. testing support is in #debian-next on the oftc irc network |
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| 15:30.12 | ToApolytoXaos | ok nkuttler thanks |
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| 15:31.50 | ewooy | I hae problem installing amd drivers on debian. In which channel should I post? #amd is empty... Or should I just post question here? |
| 15:32.00 | somiaj | skilz: sounds like dmix was disabled (it should be enabled by default) |
| 15:32.07 | ompaul | !amd |
| 15:32.07 | dpkg | Advanced Micro Devices is a semiconductor manufacturer. For support of ATI/AMD graphics hardware, ask me about <ati>. See also <amd64>, <coolnquiet>, <k7>. |
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| 15:32.58 | somiaj | ewooy: are you talking about the fglrx non-free drivers, you shouldn't use their installer for this, and use the debian non-free packages instead |
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| 15:33.03 | skilz | somiaj, How do I enable it? |
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| 15:33.49 | somiaj | skilz: it should be enabled by default, do you override it in $HOME/.asoundrc? |
| 15:33.55 | ewooy | somiaj, so there are more drivers for AMD graphics? Free and non free? |
| 15:34.04 | skilz | no |
| 15:34.21 | ompaul | !install |
| 15:34.21 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
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| 15:35.04 | somiaj | skilz: do you have anything in .asoundrc? |
| 15:35.07 | somiaj | skilz: what de do you use? |
| 15:35.25 | skilz | Fluxbox |
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| 15:35.48 | somiaj | ewooy: with ati graphics you have the choice to use the free radeon drivers or the non-free fglrx drivers, Both can be installed via debain repos. What do you need help with, which ones do you prefer? what is your ati card? |
| 15:35.53 | skilz | File .asoundrc does not exist |
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| 15:36.09 | somiaj | skilz: then dmix should be enabled, not sure why it isn't working. :/ |
| 15:36.34 | ewooy | somiaj, it seems that now everything went fine... (Ran installer for 2nd time) |
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| 15:36.54 | somiaj | ewooy: the ati installer will mess up your system and conflict with debian packages and could break during an upgrade. |
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| 15:37.09 | somiaj | ewooy: and is not supported here. |
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| 15:39.07 | somiaj | skilz: many people prefer pulseaudio to do their mixing for them, switching between sound cards and the likes. I don't use it, but you may find it more to your liking |
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| 15:46.18 | muculus | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5130679 |
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| 15:47.55 | Roland- | hello I am having some issues: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncursesw |
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| 15:48.51 | ewooy | Hey guys, I just did fresh install, and I have to have usb insrted if I want to boot, otherwise it says something like that: "Insert proper boot device then press any key to continue" |
| 15:49.07 | muculus | I have a question: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5130679 |
| 15:50.06 | somiaj | ewooy: sounds like you need to install grub into the mbr, or configure your biso to boot off the correct drive |
| 15:50.08 | Roland- | nvm found it |
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| 15:51.25 | somiaj | muculus: looks like a bad mirror, maybe try to update again |
| 15:52.05 | skilz | somiaj, So how do I change to pulseaudio? |
| 15:52.05 | somiaj | ewooy: please talk in the channel and do not message me. Could you have just installed grub onto the mbr of your usb drive and not your actual drive? |
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| 15:52.43 | muculus | somiaj: it is th official repo, Also I run apt-get update. |
| 15:52.57 | muculus | somiaj: *the |
| 15:53.20 | ewooy | somiaj, ye its possible. Anyone have any idea what could cause this behaviour: http://i.imgur.com/Xnq3p0L.png |
| 15:53.33 | somiaj | skilz: apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol |
| 15:54.06 | somiaj | ewooy: okay boot into your system with the usb pluged in (this is boooting into your actual system, not the live image or debian installer right?) |
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| 15:54.27 | ewooy | yes its in actual system |
| 15:54.33 | somiaj | muculus: http.debian.net is a giop redirect so it is a local mirror which sometimes are misconfigured, try another mirror, maybe use a paticular one instead of the redirect |
| 15:54.44 | ewooy | somiaj: but USB has to be in, otherwise it wont show grub or anything just the error I posted above |
| 15:54.49 | somiaj | ewooy: can you tell me which device is the drive you want to boot off of (/dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc) |
| 15:55.09 | somiaj | ewooy: yes I know, anyways what drive is your usb drive, what drive is your actual hard drive |
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| 15:56.36 | ewooy | somiaj, I think I'll just completely reinstall the system, since every boot there is "less" space on desktop... http://i.imgur.com/Xnq3p0L.png |
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| 15:57.37 | somiaj | ewooy: lets fix it, the problem you have now is grub is installed on the mbr of your usb drive, we just need to stinall it on the mbr of your actual drive |
| 15:57.58 | somiaj | just resize the window |
| 15:58.23 | somiaj | also do not run x as root |
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| 16:09.09 | backSlasher | somiaj, they helped. Thank you for your patience |
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| 16:15.49 | somiaj | backSlasher: glad you figured out what was going on. (: |
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| 16:22.55 | pederindi | hi, the degree symbol with altgr-intl keyboard?? |
| 16:23.11 | pederindi | Degree symbol, (°) |
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| 16:23.21 | pederindi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_symbol |
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| 16:23.50 | d3sync | ° alt+0176 |
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| 16:24.17 | petern_ | altgr-shift-0 |
| 16:25.02 | pederindi | petern_: thanks! |
| 16:25.15 | brontosaurusrex | how would i batch process some svgs with some filtering? (like auto-levels) |
| 16:25.23 | brontosaurusrex | output must be svg |
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| 16:25.35 | pederindi | d3sync: how to do that other alternative? I only know using unicode: Ctrl + Shift + u and later the code |
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| 16:33.21 | Osz | see this one :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlIDnsce0z4 |
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| 16:36.37 | _ahg | Hey folks, I wonder if someone could help me find my phone. It's running an old version of android, and I can't figure out hwo to mount it. |
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| 16:37.16 | _ahg | lsusb shows Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:681c Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Galaxy Portal/Spica/S |
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| 16:38.14 | _ahg | /var/log/messages shows [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk |
| 16:38.31 | _ahg | but when I attempt to mount /dev/sdb, it says that there is no medium there |
| 16:39.11 | _ahg | from what I understand, android no longer uses the standard USB filesystem protocol, but only in versions after 3.0 |
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| 16:39.22 | _ahg | mine is running kernel version 2.6.29 |
| 16:39.55 | _ahg | so basically the question is, what do I do after plugging it into my machine? |
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| 16:40.41 | somiaj | _ahg: look at the next line, you should see a partition table on it |
| 16:41.01 | somiaj | _ahg: something like sdb: sdb1 sdb2 |
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| 16:43.14 | _ahg | somiaj: the next line is "Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0" |
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| 16:43.29 | nell | hey |
| 16:43.33 | _ahg | attempting to mount /dev/sg3 says "mount: /dev/sg3 is not a block device" |
| 16:43.36 | nell | if nohup cat /dev/tty0 turns off keybnoards |
| 16:43.40 | nell | what turns it back up |
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| 16:44.14 | somiaj | _ahg: maybe check 'demsg | grep sdb' if you don't see multiple lines it may not be reading the usb drive correctly, Do you know anything about what the expected partition table/usb is set up as? |
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| 16:45.00 | somiaj | _ahg: how about put the output of 'dmesg | grep sdb' at paste.debian.net |
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| 16:45.12 | nell | how do I turn a keyboard back on |
| 16:45.15 | nell | after using |
| 16:45.17 | nell | nohup cat /dev/tty0 |
| 16:45.20 | _ahg | somiag: no, I'm afraid I don't. I'll paste the dmesg output, just a moment |
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| 16:46.11 | youpoop | what part of xorg generated udp packets on port 53? and how do I turn it off? when starting X with startx |
| 16:46.11 | somiaj | nell: ctrl-D? |
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| 16:46.51 | somiaj | youpoop: port 53 is for DNS, maybe it is looking up its hostname |
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| 16:47.17 | youpoop | forever and at 400+ b/s |
| 16:47.50 | somiaj | that seems odd, not sure what it could be doing. |
| 16:47.58 | youpoop | or how would I set it's hostname so it stops looking? |
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| 16:48.21 | youpoop | the /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts are setup |
| 16:48.23 | Roland- | if I don't have an sysrq key, does anyone know the combination for it? |
| 16:48.52 | somiaj | youpoop: that was just a guess, it coudl be doing something else, I wouldn't know. Could it be something that is loading with your wm/de/session manager? |
| 16:48.55 | youpoop | Alt+PrntScn but that's probably the key you're missing |
| 16:49.11 | Roland- | I do have a print screen key |
| 16:49.15 | _ahg | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/98866/ |
| 16:49.37 | youpoop | Roland-: or control + C is the console way |
| 16:49.48 | somiaj | _ahg: it isn't detecting the disk fully, not sure why. |
| 16:50.00 | Roland- | yeah sysrq is in case of kernel panic which might happen |
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| 16:51.23 | somiaj | _ahg: can I see the full output of dmesg at paste.debian.net (I want the lines ear either of the timestamps in your last output, but all lines relating to that device) |
| 16:51.34 | youpoop | for the port 53 it seems to read as tvc-ip.com in tcpdump |
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| 16:51.54 | _ahg | somiaj: sure. one minute |
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| 16:53.48 | somiaj | youpoop: hmm, haven't heard of that domain name before, you have something fishy going on, but I woudln't know what |
| 16:54.12 | _ahg | somiaj: full dmesg output is at http://paste.debian.net/98867/ |
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| 16:54.23 | youpoop | I don't know either. I thought that ddwrt was flooding me, but it seems that X is the source of the traffic. |
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| 16:55.50 | somiaj | _ahg: ahh this is a smart phone, yea sometimes they do weird partition tables, but my guess is you have to put it into usb mass storage mode |
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| 16:56.27 | youpoop | and others with 66-152-109-107.tvc-ip.com. (84) from tcpdump -n -i eth0 output |
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| 16:56.41 | _ahg | somiaj: you mean, fiddle around in the phone for some setting to toggle? |
| 16:56.57 | youpoop | debian testing, installed via the debootstrap method |
| 16:57.01 | somiaj | _ahg: correct, there should be a usbmass storage mode |
| 16:57.59 | _ahg | somiaj: thanks! |
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| 16:59.20 | youpoop | I had originally thought it was some sort of nmap scan, but it happens with the ethernet to the internet is unplugged |
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| 17:00.09 | _ahg | somiaj: That was the problem. Thanks so much for your help |
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| 17:01.13 | youpoop | some phones take microSD cards and you can swap phone data on those via a reader. |
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| 17:03.45 | somiaj | _ahg: once I figured out what you were plugging in it helped. (: |
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| 18:07.06 | Quantum` | Wow. Nobody knows. I thought this was the 21st century... |
| 18:07.25 | Minnozz | I'm running jessie and have net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 uncommented in my /etc/sysctl.conf, but when I read the value after a reboot, it is 0. How is this possible? |
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| 18:07.56 | Minnozz | When I manually feed the line to sysctl, the value is changed to 1 and forwarding works |
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| 18:15.25 | krpt | anyone else with audio/video sync issue sine last updates on Sid ? |
| 18:15.32 | krpt | since* |
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| 18:16.29 | krpt | using smplayer.. vlc will just kind of freeze and display artefacts |
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| 18:35.14 | petn-randall | krpt: sid is supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:36.31 | krpt | petn-randall: invite me ? :) |
| 18:37.32 | jelly-home | krpt: irc.oftc.net is a different network, different irc server |
| 18:38.14 | krpt | stupid me :) |
| 18:38.21 | krpt | didn't read through |
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| 19:02.56 | temhaa | hi |
| 19:03.02 | temhaa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:04.25 | Roland- | google |
| 19:04.43 | Roland- | it's pretty self explaining anyway |
| 19:04.47 | Roland- | games , etc |
| 19:04.51 | Roland- | most of them |
| 19:04.55 | petn-randall | !enter |
| 19:04.55 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 19:05.03 | Roland- | ok ok |
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| 19:06.47 | youpoop | Figured out the udp flood culprit. atieventsd which was installed and running, even though I'm using the radeon driver |
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| 19:18.28 | tharkun | Grub decided I no longer need to use windows. But then installing an hp Laserjet P1006 has been impossible How can I rescan my hdd so grub finds the windows partition so I can hastily print? |
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| 19:21.44 | babilen | tharkun: Make sure you have os-prober installed and run "update-grub2" |
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| 19:22.39 | Mikaela | update-grub2 appears to be symlink to update-grub |
| 19:23.08 | tharkun | babilen: Thanks as for the printer any ideas? |
| 19:23.19 | tremon | hum... anyone got a good reason why console-kit-daemon should be using 1G virtual memory? (on jessie) |
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| 19:23.52 | tremon | I know it's not that interesting since resident size is only 4MB, but it looks odd |
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| 19:28.05 | babilen | tharkun: I have no idea and would have to google for solutions, my general approach is: check http://localhost:631, add printer, find suitable PPD file, use that |
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| 19:33.54 | petn-randall | tremon: jessie is supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 19:41.36 | krpt | tremon: looks like you're not the only one with this issue : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=559213 |
| 19:41.43 | temhaa | why installed mpt-status package default debian installation? |
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| 19:43.16 | petn-randall | temhaa: mpt-status is not installed by default. |
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| 19:44.51 | joris_ | is this safe? http://ein-eike.de/2013/12/02/installing-steam-on-debian-wheezy-64-bit-the-easy-way/ |
| 19:45.30 | level7 | hi all... I would like to know if you can advice a good laptop for debian. My needs are: ultra long life (for battery), 16GB RAM, SSD, no touch screen.... if ultra light , that would be nice but not essential |
| 19:45.39 | temhaa | petn-randall, I didnt install mpt-status package after installation, I installed netinstall debian 7. how can I see installed package during debian installation? |
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| 19:49.31 | petn-randall | temhaa: At the end of the installation you get to select which purpose the computer will have, which select a group of packages to install. If you deselect everything, you pretty much end up with only essential packages. |
| 19:51.09 | temhaa | petn-randall, ok; I selected just ssh. I dont understand why installed this package. |
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| 20:04.25 | Tasab | somiaj, have you any idea pls about the g3 modem , how i can configure on text mode , would like to fix the wheezy debian to enable me working on graphic basis , tks |
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| 20:06.31 | cusco | hey folks |
| 20:06.44 | cusco | I'm trying to mount a disk with mount option acl |
| 20:06.55 | cusco | in /proc/mounts doesn't show with acl |
| 20:06.58 | cusco | can't figure why |
| 20:07.09 | x0ff | hi. is possible hold php-5.3.* with aptitude? |
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| 20:12.50 | ted20 | Good evening |
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| 20:13.35 | ted20 | VLC from minitube says: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `h264'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format. | VLC does not support the audio or video format "h264". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. |
| 20:13.54 | x0ff | is some channel for helping? |
| 20:14.14 | ted20 | x0ff: It's here ;) |
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| 20:14.45 | x0ff | ted20: okey |
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| 20:18.57 | MrFrood | x0ff: you may find googling the phrase "debian wheezy php 5.3 downgrade" enlightening |
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| 20:22.39 | ted20 | Debian supports h264? |
| 20:22.44 | ted20 | Probably not? |
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| 20:27.50 | cfree | Is there a way I can list processes in order of most RAM usage to least? |
| 20:29.10 | ted20 | cfree: maybe top? |
| 20:29.14 | temhaa | cfree, htop |
| 20:29.39 | cfree | when I boot my system is using 979 RAM, when I run virtualbox I end up with 140ish, when I close virtualbox 3+gig of ram is still in use. |
| 20:29.43 | cfree | thanks guys |
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| 20:30.29 | ted20 | Too much |
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| 20:34.24 | cfree | ted20: I can't see anything obvious running that would be accounting for it, I am using: free -m to check it. |
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| 20:38.18 | malmelmil | Hello #debian ! I am converting a previous mac/win user to linux, as in she will try the live usb and look towards using linux as main OS if it works, she is new to linux and a medium user in relation to computers in general; for her job she basically writes, edits blogs, gmail, listen to music and eventual movie. Her computer is 1.8ghz + 2GB Ram, for this reason I am going for a debian wheezy with xcfe. Is this, do you think a good optio |
| 20:38.19 | malmelmil | n for stability, usability and speed? is there any advice you would like to give me. I have to say I haven't tried debian yet, I am on crunchbang at the moment. Thank you |
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| 20:39.27 | cfree | malmelmil: Is she likely to be happy occassionally using the command line? |
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| 20:40.56 | Paradisee_ | is possible to use testing if i have installed a stable debian? |
| 20:41.01 | malmelmil | she is happy to learn at her own pace, but it should be possible to operate normally without needing to. Mostly because she does not know her ways on it. |
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| 20:41.52 | cfree | I'm using debian with xfce, stable as a rock! |
| 20:42.01 | malmelmil | and with "operate normally" I mean word processing, gmail, occasional video, listening to music and editing blogs |
| 20:42.24 | cfree | All of that pretty much works out of the box |
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| 20:42.52 | cfree | synaptic package manager is awesome and intuitive to use (she will need the root pass) |
| 20:43.41 | cfree | So installing openoffice/libreoffice and adobe flashplayer is simple, just click a tick box and then click install lol |
| 20:43.46 | malmelmil | what would, you think, recquire some terminal ? |
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| 20:44.06 | malmelmil | right, no CLI tinkering needed for that indeed |
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| 20:45.44 | malmelmil | anything in particular we should be looking for or that she should attempt to learn as a starter ? |
| 20:45.47 | malmelmil | thanks, cfree |
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| 20:46.19 | cfree | She shouldn't require the terminal, but some basic navigation would be a useful base for if she ever does need to do anything in it |
| 20:46.59 | cfree | If she ever needs to mount a usb stick of hdd |
| 20:47.09 | x0ff | MrFrood: gentoo rulez |
| 20:47.11 | cfree | that could be handy if it doesn't automount for some reason |
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| 20:47.43 | MrBar | cfree, it way to systemd and to hell |
| 20:47.46 | day | does anyone here use multiple monitors? |
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| 20:47.58 | ted20 | I'm using systemd :D |
| 20:48.03 | ted20 | I'm in the hell |
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| 20:48.10 | MrBar | really? |
| 20:48.13 | MrBar | :D |
| 20:48.49 | cfree | so she should have: sudo fdisk -l (list partitions/hdds/flash drives) and then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o user,rw,exec /dev/sda6 /mnt/storage for example if she needs to keep an NFTS partition that's on her system? |
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| 20:48.59 | cfree | knowing how to use mount is handy. |
| 20:49.03 | MrFrood | even though x0ff has quit it is imporant to say he is wrong as gentoo has no working version of nethack |
| 20:49.05 | cfree | but that's about it I think. |
| 20:49.14 | cfree | ted20: systemd is unix? |
| 20:49.35 | cfree | brb |
| 20:49.58 | day | well, im trying to figure out if its possible to maintain separate displays (not eyefinity) but watch movies across all displays with bezel correction |
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| 20:51.15 | malmelmil | cfree, thank you, we'll do some mounting, then |
| 20:51.27 | malmelmil | I hope usb's mount fine, tho |
| 20:51.34 | malmelmil | and that there is no hardware incompatibilities or the like |
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| 20:52.29 | malmelmil | Thank you again cfree, I am leaving, ciao |
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| 20:53.41 | MrBar | day, xinerama? |
| 20:54.21 | somiaj | day: there are various ways to deal with multiple monintors, my experience is each has its advantages and disavantages and you take the one that works mostly the way you want. |
| 20:54.36 | somiaj | day: are you wanting your two monintors to be treated as one? |
| 20:54.43 | somiaj | day: or actually running seperate xservers? |
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| 20:55.21 | day | somiaj: if im watching movies i want bezelcorrection (which would be possible with eyefinity -> 1 interpolated display). But when i work i need 3 separate displays |
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| 20:55.57 | day | somiaj: i will probably end up having two swithc between two modes. If thats possible perfect. If theres one solution for both, even better |
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| 20:57.50 | mdim | hi all. I'm trying to compile the Linux kernel (got it wit apt-get source -t wheezy-backports linux) so that it has support for SSDs |
| 20:57.58 | somiaj | day: I actually dont' know anything that does the correction your talking about, but I belive with xinemra you could treate all your monintors as a single screen with a large resolution, not sure if xrandr can emulate this or not |
| 20:58.08 | qqz1 | can anyone help me in installing two pacakges with a common file? |
| 20:58.10 | mdim | when in make menuconfig, where do I find that option? I can't find it |
| 20:58.14 | somiaj | mdim: what do you mean by support for ssds? |
| 20:58.23 | mdim | TRIM commands |
| 20:58.23 | qqz1 | need to apply a dpkg-divert first |
| 20:58.40 | mdim | somiaj: ^^ |
| 20:58.54 | temhaa | How do I find? user what doing business |
| 20:59.00 | somiaj | I belive the linux kernels have atrim already includeded, you just need to tell the filesystem to use it |
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| 20:59.18 | day | somiaj: atis eyefinity, which works with linux can do it afaik. Its a must for gaming/watching movies, otherwise things look stretched. |
| 20:59.33 | hiyo | Can someone tell me where are the PAM modules held in Debian Wheezy? |
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| 21:00.13 | mdim | somiaj: really? I forgot where exactly I've heard that, but it was someting like that the default Wheezy 3.2 kernel doesn't come with that thing compiled in |
| 21:00.16 | day | somiaj: the problem is even with windows it works shitty at best...people switch via win+p between extended mode and duplicate(which magically aactivates eyefinity :P) |
| 21:00.44 | qqz1 | what do I need to do if package1 has a file /bin/jadetex and package2 has so too and I wanna install both packages by use of dpkg-divert? |
| 21:00.48 | MrBar | mdim, there 3.12 in backports |
| 21:00.52 | somiaj | mdim: yea I think all you need is to add the discard option to the list of options in /etc/fstab for your file systems, you just need an fs that supports it. |
| 21:01.05 | somiaj | mdim: it has been in the linux kernel since 2.6.33, so 3.2 has it |
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| 21:01.32 | mdim | somiaj: ok, how do I check it really works, i.e. that the discard option is not discarded? :) |
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| 21:02.34 | qqz1 | why does dpkg -i not automatically install in the new location |
| 21:02.36 | qqz1 | ? |
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| 21:02.44 | mdim | somiaj: do you maybe know which line I should be looking for in /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 ? |
| 21:03.11 | somiaj | mdim: just type mount, it should list all the options you have included, here is the output from my mount, foo on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,discard,data=ordered) |
| 21:03.28 | somiaj | mdim: it isn't a config option for the kernel I think it is included int he filesystem support |
| 21:03.50 | MrBar | SSD caching is only supported on Linux 3.9 or newer |
| 21:04.03 | somiaj | qqz1: this is a debian policy bug, two packages should not provide the same file unless they conflict with eachother. |
| 21:04.31 | qqz1 | somiaj: well that are fink pacakges ... |
| 21:05.09 | somiaj | qqz1: so if you found two debian packages which provide the same file this should be a bug report, if you are mixing packages from various distros/versions of debian this too is not a suggested approach. Which two packges are you trying to install that share the same file? |
| 21:05.09 | mdim | MrBar: right, but that's a different thing, right? |
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| 21:05.32 | mdim | somiaj: ok, thx! I'll give it a shot in a few days when I get an SSD |
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| 21:05.59 | mdim | MrBar: and I am planning to use 3.13 from backports |
| 21:06.00 | qqz1 | somiaj: texlive-nox-base and jadetex; from two different branches/distros |
| 21:06.36 | somiaj | qqz1: yea you won't get support for mixing things here. Best bet is to recompile one of the pcakges to not include one of the files. |
| 21:07.28 | somiaj | but usually you should recompile a package you want to put on a debian system froma thrid party source that was not made for debian wheezy. There may be hacks to fix this, my suggestion would be isntall the non-debian package in /usr/local from upstream source and not use a .deb. Stow is a good thing to manage this |
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| 21:07.54 | somiaj | or modify the source build of the non debian package and configure its prefix to be /usr/local so this way you won't have a conflicting file |
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| 21:15.19 | mdim | somiaj: do you use goanysync ( https://github.com/wor/goanysync ) to keep /var in memory? |
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| 21:17.41 | somiaj | mdim: nope, I think most ssd's are made good enough I really don't have to go to great lenghts to increase their life span, but we'll see. (: |
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| 21:20.32 | mdim | somiaj: I'm at least planint to have /tmp mounted as a ramdisk. Do you have a clue about how much /tmp typically grows? Let's say I don't put any files there myself |
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| 21:20.48 | mdim | *planning |
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| 21:22.21 | malmelmil | Hello, I downloaded file:///home/mal/downloads/debian-7.5.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso thinking that it was the live image, but as I understand it is not |
| 21:23.31 | malmelmil | can I still dd it to a usb and run it live or "of course not, it is not a live image, you silly" |
| 21:23.35 | malmelmil | thanks |
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| 21:24.47 | somiaj | mdim: it stays realativally small unless you use things like flash (it likes to hide files there when viewing videos and the likes) |
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| 21:26.13 | mdim | somiaj: I see. No flash is going to be on that machine |
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| 21:27.21 | qqz1 | smiaj: found a workaround; nonetheless it would be nice to know how to apply dpkg-divert in practice |
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| 21:27.36 | qqz1 | that is required from time to time. |
| 21:28.32 | epicblood | can someone tell me if this is safe? http://ein-eike.de/2013/12/02/installing-steam-on-debian-wheezy-64-bit-the-easy-way/ |
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| 21:28.53 | qqz1 | if I wanna program something that handles diversions correctly I wanna know how to apply them |
| 21:28.59 | temhaa | How do I find? user what doing job? I ask again |
| 21:30.15 | vimel | epicblood: the safest way i found to game on debian was with jessie. install debian jessie, install video driver, make sure your system is updated and then follow this tutorial. https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
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| 21:31.48 | betty__ | Greetings.. |
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| 21:33.41 | betty__ | When I boot Kwheezy, I can't get graphical login, or environment. Shows: Cannot found screen" - It is happening since i had changed an option on driver management to: 'let xorg found appropriate driver'... |
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| 21:34.35 | betty__ | How can I fix it from tty1? |
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| 21:35.49 | betty__ | anyone? |
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| 21:45.27 | xayon | Hi there. Has anyone seen / heard of scroll wheel emulation (via drag & click on a normal touch screen with tslib)? |
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| 21:55.14 | zacheigh | an ancient bug (linking problem) that had been fixed and reintroduced several times appeared again in vlc when running debian live. vlc gives the "No plugins found!" error which can be worked around by setting VLC_PLUGIN_PATH to /usr/lib/vlc/plugins |
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| 21:56.13 | blonkel | how to to hand over (initramfs) to 2nd init in debian? |
| 21:56.17 | blonkel | is there any how to? |
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| 22:05.42 | tulphaan | hello |
| 22:05.59 | tulphaan | someone here |
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| 22:06.26 | tulphaan | no ine here |
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| 22:06.30 | tulphaan | ? |
| 22:06.39 | blonkel | nope |
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| 22:07.30 | hugg | On jessie, is it normal for `systemctl --user` to fail? |
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| 22:11.49 | zenlunatic | one thing I like about debian is I plug in my printer and it just works, instantly |
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| 22:13.35 | teraflops | hugg: is the systemctl --user status ok ? |
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| 22:15.17 | hugg | teraflops: I get this: 200~Failed to issue method call: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1 |
| 22:15.52 | hugg | teraflops: it looks like it's a common error if a DBUS environment variable isn't set |
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| 22:16.07 | teraflops | yep hugg |
| 22:16.18 | teraflops | its relies on dbus someway |
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| 22:17.02 | teraflops | hugg: sorry for that but not being debian its useful https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User#D-Bus |
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| 22:18.38 | CatMtKing | is there a way to view aptitude's install log? a couple warnings about gdk-pixbuf showed up the last time i updated, and i want to look at them again |
| 22:18.56 | hugg | teraflops: shouldn't jessie do this already? |
| 22:19.24 | teraflops | i do not use other debian that stable hugg |
| 22:19.25 | CatMtKing | i had a look at /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/apt/history.log but wasn't able to find the warnings there |
| 22:19.30 | teraflops | than* |
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| 22:19.56 | sandman13 | how do i know which audio service (Pulse Audio or ALSA) is installed in my machine? |
| 22:20.06 | teraflops | but I use systemd time ago on my workstation hugg |
| 22:20.12 | teraflops | arch |
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| 22:21.26 | teraflops | theres a #systemd with kind peolpe also hugg |
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| 22:22.19 | blonkel | im using an own initramfs, everything is running smoothly but im trieing to hand over to debian (chroot and switch_root) executing /sbin/init but then it doesnt seem to start the system right i only get a bash shell and thats it |
| 22:22.21 | blonkel | any idears? |
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| 22:24.01 | hugg | teraflops: thanks :) |
| 22:24.28 | teraflops | yw |
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| 22:26.34 | blonkel | ~_~, then im creating my own base system.. |
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| 22:27.27 | EveBird | I'm trying to install qtbase5-dev from jessie. But it will remove gnome-core and gnome-shell among countless other packages. Can I safely do this without breaking anything? Full output: http://pastebin.com/cjaN4RZb |
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| 22:29.18 | sandman13 | aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav should be working for root right? |
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| 22:39.23 | pederindi | what about http://lxqt.org/ in debian ? |
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| 22:47.26 | joelio_ | How can I programatically get the list of packages that are available to upgrade? I thought about looping through apt-cache policy output and comparing but that's expensive. I can get the current version from /var/lib/dpkg/status but not sure where the queued version lies (seems to be in a bin?) |
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| 22:47.39 | nell | PETS CatMtKing |
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| 22:48.37 | blonkel | echo "n" | apt-get upgrade + grep? ;) |
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| 22:50.58 | joelio_ | blonkel: yea, but what about stuff due to be dist-upgraded too.. was trying not to shell out where possible too |
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| 22:51.23 | joelio_ | hmm, although a dist-upgrade would, ha |
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| 22:51.58 | joelio_ | also it doesn't tell me the versions which I was after, so would still need to apt-cache policy on those packages |
| 22:52.16 | sandman13 | I am using ALSA and when I type this as root: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav this is the output Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono |
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| 22:52.24 | sandman13 | but no sound is heard |
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| 22:53.06 | sandman13 | but from GUI I can hear sounds |
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| 22:58.34 | Zone | sandman13: you might try listing the devices that ALSA recognizes, in case aplay is trying to use a different device than the GUI apps do. Also run alsamixer to make sure none of the channels are muted |
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| 23:00.55 | CatMtKing | hmm, i'm trying to figure why shutting down from gnome's drop-down menu doesn't seem to work... |
| 23:01.24 | sandman13 | Zone: should I paste the devices that alsa recognizes |
| 23:01.30 | CatMtKing | not sure if relevant, but there's a counter that usually ticks down from 60 in it... and it's not ticking |
| 23:01.37 | sandman13 | *device's list |
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| 23:17.03 | nath_ | morning, is it possible, to add LXDE to Debian with Gnome Desktop? |
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| 23:17.31 | centrx | nath_, You should be able to install both on the same system |
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| 23:18.14 | nath_ | centrx: nice! |
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| 23:22.45 | republican_devil | hi I get an error compiling thttpd.....anyone know how to get it working? |
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| 23:23.06 | blonkel | post your error / google for the errors |
| 23:23.07 | blonkel | ;/ |
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| 23:27.55 | republican_devil | http://pastebin.com/mNuYqPSX |
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| 23:29.02 | blonkel | the source codes are broken |
| 23:29.09 | blonkel | fix it / try a nother version |
| 23:29.26 | jron | The newest firefox release verions has working h.264 now! =) |
| 23:29.48 | dvs | O_O |
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| 23:30.16 | mojom | Hi everyone: I have Wheezy on a server; after a recent update (I guess 7.5), the 3.2 kernel no longer detects my hard drives; the old kernel version still works. Ideas? |
| 23:30.29 | republican_devil | hm |
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| 23:30.47 | cafuego | Keep using the old kernel. |
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| 23:31.01 | dvs | 3.2 is the new kernel? |
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| 23:32.14 | mojom | dvs: it's 3.2.x, can't remember exactly; I've been using it just fine for 8 months; now it doesn't see my hard drives and I am dropped to a Busybox prompt. I would rather fix this problem than use the old kernel (although I don't know the consequences of simply using the old one). Any ideas? |
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| 23:32.39 | dvs | I don't use BusyBox, sorry |
| 23:33.16 | mojom | even when I boot from a netinstaller debian 7 CD and try to run recovery mode, it says it can't see my drives and drops me to the Busybox prompt |
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| 23:33.45 | mojom | (really, nobody has any ideas? I'm desperate for a lead) |
| 23:35.24 | mojom | while booting to the new kernel, it says "ata7: reset failed, giving up", then gives me a series of udevd: timeout commands before dumping me into the Busybox prompt |
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| 23:36.34 | mojom | well OK, if nobody can help me, I'll just have to re-install Windows |
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| 23:38.14 | blonkel | use the old kernel :) |
| 23:39.46 | republican_devil | use knoppix, move data to usb drive |
| 23:39.48 | republican_devil | then nuke box |
| 23:39.51 | republican_devil | to 7.5 |
| 23:39.54 | republican_devil | :) |
| 23:39.57 | republican_devil | then bring back data |
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| 23:40.56 | mojom | republican_devil: the old kernel version works, so I was already able to back up data; I wanted to "nuke" the box, so I made a netinst CD from an ISO, but even the installer does not see my drives (Debian 7.5) |
| 23:41.18 | themill | so precisely what kernel does work there? |
| 23:41.36 | mojom | The one for Debian Squeeze (2.7.x?) |
| 23:41.57 | mojom | (i.e., the one for Debian 6 stable) |
| 23:42.06 | themill | so this isn't a problem that appeared with the update for 7.5 at all |
| 23:42.14 | malmelmil | Hello, I am installing wheezy xcfe for a friend and I'm used to Crunchbang with openbox, I wonder how to edit behaviours deeply, as in i.e. tooltips, the rightclick menu on desktop (I'd like to show only applications and a few other items), etc. How do I go about it ? conf files? thank you |
| 23:42.36 | republican_devil | yer drives sound hardwarey failure then i guess |
| 23:42.53 | mojom | I upgraded to Wheezy a long time ago -- this problem occurred after rebooting after an apt-get upgrade that I ran two weekends ago |
| 23:42.56 | republican_devil | or u jacked up gparted |
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| 23:43.06 | republican_devil | do a gparted delete |
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| 23:43.18 | mojom | gparted delete what? |
| 23:43.21 | republican_devil | sometimes partition needs to be cleared |
| 23:43.30 | republican_devil | whatever partition on yer disk |
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| 23:43.40 | republican_devil | nuke it |
| 23:43.43 | mojom | Ok, but that will wipe out the system while I am using it |
| 23:43.45 | themill | mojom: has the wheezy kernel ever worked on that machine? |
| 23:43.57 | mojom | Yes, the wheezy kernel has been working fine for 8 months |
| 23:44.00 | cafuego | Actually. Does the kernel not see the new drives at all, or are they now a different device from what they were, so fstab no longer matches? |
| 23:44.03 | republican_devil | I had troulbe one time cuz I had screwy parted partition wouldnt go awya gota do parted delte |
| 23:44.07 | republican_devil | then its do its thing |
| 23:44.21 | republican_devil | then do fresh install taking ti from the top |
| 23:44.28 | mojom | the drives have not changed -- only thing that changed was a routine apt-get upgrade that i ran 2 weeks ago |
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| 23:45.21 | mojom | ok, so how do i nuke it, repdev? if i'm logged in on the old kernel, and i run gparted, and nuke the main system partition, then the system becomes unusable... |
| 23:46.09 | mojom | and again, running from a debian 7.5 cd, I can't see the drives from the busybox prompt, so i can't repartition, even with fdisk |
| 23:46.50 | dvs | mojom: Can you run "fdisk -l" with the new kernel? |
| 23:47.13 | Blue_Knight | dvs: Nothing happens here. |
| 23:47.14 | mojom | dvs: from the busybox prompt, yes: it doesn't see any drives |
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| 23:48.30 | mojom | again, i don't think this is a hardware problem because the squeeze kernel can mount the drives and boot normally |
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| 23:49.08 | mojom | it's as if the modules (drivers?) for my drive are not loaded correctly in the kernel; the netinst disk actually asks me to find drivers for my drives -- that has never happened before |
| 23:49.12 | republican_devil | you are doing something odd |
| 23:49.21 | mojom | can you be more specific? |
| 23:49.28 | republican_devil | did u mess in the bios? |
| 23:49.33 | mojom | no, didn't touch the bios |
| 23:50.07 | mojom | the only thing i did was to run apt-get upgrade, a routine upgrade; can someone tell me how to get a log of the apt-get upgrades to figure out what package may have screwed me? |
| 23:50.23 | mojom | (or how to roll back the last upgrade) |
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| 23:51.04 | dvs | or go forward and do an apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 23:51.21 | mojom | dvs: that's an interesting idea |
| 23:51.40 | mojom | dvs: what happens if I run that under the old kernel? |
| 23:51.53 | dvs | dunno |
| 23:52.08 | mojom | does anyone know? |
| 23:52.59 | mojom | someone please help -- i could get fired if i don't get this fixed |
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| 23:53.55 | Genitrust | *sigh*, i just installed a debian system... 7.2 for i386 |
| 23:54.07 | dvs | old! |
| 23:54.17 | Genitrust | and when i get to the screen where i must type the password for vm crypt, keyboard input doesn't work at all -.- |
| 23:54.17 | mojom | Correction: the busybox prompt sees neither fdisk -l or parted -l |
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| 23:54.31 | Genitrust | however, the keyboard works *before* that, when choosing the kernel from grub bootloader |
| 23:54.43 | tharkun | babilen: grub workes fine. The printer, well a faulty usb cable is sometimes tricky to spot. Cups can see the printer now. I still can't print but then there is movement :) Good $night |
| 23:54.46 | Genitrust | any ideas? it's a usb keyboard, and there is *no* ps/2 port on this computer |
| 23:54.55 | Genitrust | (on *the* computer that i'm talkin about) |
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| 23:56.37 | Genitrust | btw what does "pae" mean for the kernel version? |
| 23:56.59 | tharkun | !pae |
| 23:56.59 | dpkg | Physical Address Extension (PAE) is an x86 processor feature allowing more than 4 gigabytes of physical memory to be used. Linux supports PAE since version 2.3.23 (up to 64 GB of memory on 32-bit systems). PAE is supported by the Intel Pentium Pro/II/III/4/4M/D, Xeon, Core and Atom; AMD Geode NX, Athlon (K7), Duron, Opteron, Sempron, Turion and Phenom; Transmeta Efficeon; VIA C7 and some others. Ask me about <686-pae>, <bigmem>. |
| 23:57.49 | malmelmil | Hello, I installed debian wheezy live xcfe 32b and when I logout from the user it asks me for a user pass, but is there a default ? thanks |
| 23:57.56 | Genitrust | ahh |
| 23:58.05 | malmelmil | (sorry, I did not install it, I am just testing it live) |
| 23:58.05 | Genitrust | tharkun, thanks. |
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| 23:58.33 | Genitrust | anyone ever run into a problem where their keyboard doesn't work when booting the linux kernel? =\ |
| 23:58.44 | tharkun | Genitrust: dpkg has a rather large dataset that you can /msg directyly ;P |
| 23:58.58 | Genitrust | 3.2.0-4 686 pae ... supports usb keyboards, right? |
| 23:59.10 | Genitrust | tharkun, i would if i knew where to start. thanks tho |
| 23:59.16 | tharkun | yes |
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| 23:59.42 | Genitrust | tharkun, does it also support usb keyboard when say... you need to input the lvm crypt password for the volume? |
