| 00:00.04 | Genitrust | (i'm trying to figure out why i cannot type ... and why hitting 'enter' doesn't bring me to the typical message of whether the drive decrypted properly or not) |
| 00:00.40 | tharkun | Genitrust: What keyboard map it has by default I really don't know but I'm prety sure that it does. |
| 00:01.02 | Genitrust | american english |
| 00:01.28 | Genitrust | hmm, i'll try going into 'repair' mode from the grub loader |
| 00:01.55 | Genitrust | tharkun, ah yes that's the thing... the grub bootloader screen comes first, and i can use the keyboard freely there. but once the lvm password prompt comes up, the machine does not respond |
| 00:02.01 | Genitrust | (cursor still blinks) |
| 00:03.15 | tharkun | Genitrust: Beats the crab out of me. It should work fine. |
| 00:03.21 | Genitrust | another clue: that machine's monitor just went into suspend mode. and pressing keys on the keyboard, as well as moving the mouse, did not wake the monitor :( |
| 00:03.39 | Genitrust | welp, now i'll try each usb port lol -.- |
| 00:03.47 | Genitrust | i feel like the kernel i installed doesn't support usb keyboards or something |
| 00:03.52 | Genitrust | -.- |
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| 00:07.02 | amdp | hi what should I change into postfix when I change my debian server hostname? |
| 00:08.39 | nkuttler | amdp: /etc/mailname comes to mind |
| 00:09.11 | Genitrust | welp, 1 more try to reinstall debian... if that doesn't work.. then i'm simply putting ubuntu on there!! |
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| 00:10.10 | amdp | nkuttler: yes that was wrong.. |
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| 00:10.48 | tharkun | amdp: nothing |
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| 00:11.35 | laigualdad | is there a channel for Lil Debi? |
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| 00:13.59 | amdp | tharkun, nkuttler my mail isn't accessible |
| 00:14.47 | tharkun | amdp: "my mail isn't accessible" what on earth does that mean? You can't reach your server, something breaks ... |
| 00:15.51 | amdp | tharkun, nkuttler, thanks very much, I fixed it. |
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| 00:16.23 | punk | what the way to get the list o installed packages ? |
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| 00:18.04 | themill | dpkg: tell punk about installed |
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| 00:18.44 | punk | themill: and in the case Im on a mounted .img of some distro? |
| 00:18.53 | tharkun | greets the holder of the Queens English |
| 00:19.13 | themill | punk: what does that actually mean? |
| 00:19.44 | themill | (and why can't you do what dpkg just said?) |
| 00:19.49 | punk | its just a backup of a server... and I cannot chroot |
| 00:20.12 | sifeic | Can someone send me an invite to #debian-devel on freenode? |
| 00:20.23 | themill | sifeic: there is no #debian-devel on freenode |
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| 00:20.55 | sifeic | themill: thanks. |
| 00:21.05 | themill | punk: "dpkg -l --root=/path/to/chroot/ ..." should work |
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| 00:21.55 | punk | hahahaha |
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| 00:22.04 | punk | why I dont think about it themill ? |
| 00:22.29 | punk | am I so silly? |
| 00:22.37 | punk | thank you |
| 00:22.41 | themill | no worries |
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| 00:26.58 | tharkun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:29.51 | laigualdad | i'm running lil debi on my Nexus 7, Cyanogenmod 10.2. i installed ssh and nano, but could not install emacs due to "dependency errors". when attempting to use nano, i received a strange error. here is the bash history: http://pastebin.com/3qRwDVp1 I'm not sure what is happening there. What should I do to get going, be able to edit files and install the packages I need? |
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| 00:32.15 | skilz | Can I read access my 3Tb Apple HFS+ filesystem? |
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| 00:35.19 | somiaj | skilz: I belive so |
| 00:35.43 | somiaj | !hfs+ |
| 00:35.44 | dpkg | HFS Plus / HFS+ (aka Mac OS Extended) is a filesystem used in modern Macintosh systems, replacing <HFS>. <MBR> partition ID: 0xAF. Supports smaller block sizes and Unix-like features (e.g. symlinks). The Linux kernel's hfsplus filesystem driver can read/write HFS+ filesystems, tools are in the hfsprogs (mkfs.hfsplus) and hfsplus packages. <parted> can resize HFS+ (shrink only) provided the start of the partition stays fixed. |
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| 00:37.31 | skilz | How to fix this : Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw for module r8169 |
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| 00:38.41 | somiaj | install firmwear-realtek from non-free |
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| 00:39.45 | skilz | E: Unable to locate package firmwear-realtek |
| 00:40.31 | themill | skilz: check your spelling. They're not clothes. |
| 00:40.49 | juantelez | skilz: # apt-get install firmware-realtek |
| 00:40.50 | dvs | lol |
| 00:40.57 | skilz | Oh lol |
| 00:40.58 | somiaj | yea sorry, firmware, my fingers don't type correctly a lot of the time..:( |
| 00:41.07 | laigualdad | ^any takers? even just a small hint will be helpful. |
| 00:41.22 | planet_ | i blame my keyboard for not anticipating my keystrokes |
| 00:41.33 | themill | !typosmite somiaj |
| 00:41.33 | dpkg | makes somiaj raed alll fo "Wra and Paece" in rnadm ordr. |
| 00:41.46 | themill | :þ |
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| 00:44.33 | skilz | How do I get them? |
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| 00:54.24 | skilz | Im missing the following 32bit binaries. LibGl.so.1 |
| 00:54.25 | skilz | How do I get them? |
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| 00:54.38 | Genitrust | sudo apt-cache search opengl |
| 00:54.42 | Genitrust | thats for opengl, right? :D |
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| 01:04.33 | tuxd00d | What is it called when you install a newer version of a program from source and you want to let dpkg know that you have a new version installed? How does one let dpkg know about this new version? |
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| 01:09.26 | Arrowmaster | tuxd00d: you have to make a package of the new version for that to work |
| 01:09.49 | tuxd00d | Thank you Arrowmaster |
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| 01:10.56 | moopi22 | HI |
| 01:11.06 | moopi22 | i have a little problem |
| 01:11.20 | dvs | sorry, we only deal with big problems |
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| 01:11.38 | moopi22 | I was unable to boot from USB drive, and i dont have cdrom |
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| 01:11.52 | moopi22 | so i used unetbootin to boot DEBIAN CD from hdd |
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| 01:11.56 | moopi22 | instead of cd/usb |
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| 01:12.09 | moopi22 | i then started livecd, and installed debian from there |
| 01:12.14 | dvs | moopi22: don't use unetbootin,, problem solved. |
| 01:12.23 | moopi22 | dvs, really? then what to use? |
| 01:12.38 | dvs | win32diskimager |
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| 01:12.50 | moopi22 | i see.. but i already installed debian |
| 01:12.52 | dvs | or if you have the live debian working, make it from that. |
| 01:13.07 | moopi22 | i installed debian from debian livecd |
| 01:13.08 | moopi22 | but, |
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| 01:13.31 | moopi22 | it was unable to install GRUB nor LILO |
| 01:13.43 | spinningcompass | What’s the relationship between the packages chromium, chromium-bsu, chromium-browser, etc.? The answer is simple, but I’m missing it. Would anyone care to enlighten me, please? |
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| 01:13.56 | moopi22 | now i want to add that debian into windows bootloader |
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| 01:14.08 | moopi22 | and question is, whether i need to install lilo first? on linux parition |
| 01:14.15 | moopi22 | i use this article http://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=3150378 |
| 01:14.16 | dvs | moopi22: you want to run Debian from the USB? |
| 01:14.19 | moopi22 | dvs, no |
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| 01:14.25 | Arrowmaster | spinningcompass: i think the name chromium was used before the browser came out |
| 01:14.33 | moopi22 | dvs, i installed debian on newly created EXT3 partition |
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| 01:14.43 | moopi22 | my main OS is windows |
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| 01:15.02 | spinningcompass | Arrowmaster: Ah. If the Chrome/Chromium browser is present in Debian but under a different name, I’m sure it’ll show up on Google. I’ll keep looking. Thank you :) |
| 01:15.02 | j4e | :/ |
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| 01:15.11 | moopi22 | but like i said, it didnt installed grub nor lilo |
| 01:15.24 | Arrowmaster | spinningcompass: chromium-browser would be the browser |
| 01:15.34 | dvs | moopi22: I'd install it by booting from the USB drie. |
| 01:15.38 | dvs | drive |
| 01:15.53 | somiaj | spinningcompass: chromium is in debian, the package use to be called chromium-browser but wheezy onward it is just chromium |
| 01:15.56 | moopi22 | dvs, yes, but my usb drive dosent boot for unknown reasons, and i dont have any other |
| 01:16.02 | moopi22 | my debian is installed properly |
| 01:16.09 | moopi22 | except that it dosent have grub/lilo |
| 01:16.21 | dvs | moopi22: it does't boot because you used unetbootin |
| 01:16.22 | j4e | boot from usb |
| 01:16.32 | moopi22 | dvs, but it installed properly |
| 01:16.38 | moopi22 | i can browse its files from windows.. |
| 01:16.40 | spinningcompass | That explains a lot. I’m working with the ARM variant of Debian. It doesn’t have a chrome package, but it has a chrome-browser package…. which depends on chromium… which doesn’t exist :-/ I’ll try preparing a new package from source. |
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| 01:16.53 | j4e | and reinstall grub |
| 01:16.53 | dvs | well, if grub doesn't work then it did not install properly |
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| 01:17.01 | moopi22 | yes |
| 01:17.09 | dvs | j4e: grub is not set up properly |
| 01:17.10 | moopi22 | debian installer said that it DIDNT install grub nor lilo |
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| 01:17.21 | moopi22 | thats the question, whether i should install it |
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| 01:17.32 | moopi22 | it i want to use windows bootloader anyway |
| 01:17.35 | moopi22 | using this article http://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=3150378 |
| 01:17.42 | j4e | boot to system from usb and reinstalll |
| 01:18.05 | moopi22 | im going to try install grub first |
| 01:18.14 | moopi22 | if its not gonna work, then reinstall everything |
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| 01:18.54 | dvs | !ops wiiii is msg spamming |
| 01:18.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj: dvs complains about: wiiii is msg spamming |
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| 01:45.13 | moopi22 | /dev/sda or /dev/hda ? |
| 01:45.17 | moopi22 | whats the difference |
| 01:45.22 | moopi22 | (in grub) |
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| 01:46.15 | dvs | moopi22: the version of the kernel you're using. |
| 01:46.18 | somiaj | moopi22: /dev/sda is a scis interface, while /dev/hda is an ide, unless you have an ide harddrive, /dev/sda is probabaly your ata drive and /dev/hda is your cdrom. |
| 01:46.19 | linuxissexy | I think /dev/sda indicates a SATA or SCSI drive, and /dev/hda usually means a legacy IDE (PATA) drive. |
| 01:46.38 | linuxissexy | Usually /dev/sr0 is cdrom. |
| 01:47.02 | somiaj | even if they are over an ide interface? been a while since I have had either |
| 01:47.12 | moopi22 | i have sata drive, but i use IDE instead of AHCI in bios |
| 01:47.19 | somiaj | ahh |
| 01:47.23 | moopi22 | what then? |
| 01:47.38 | moopi22 | i guess hda is correct |
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| 01:47.48 | moopi22 | or not? |
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| 01:48.22 | moopi22 | dvs, kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 01:49.27 | b0t | hello |
| 01:49.31 | b0t | i have a problem, Cannot write to `FloodServ-3.0.a3.tar.gz' (Permission denied). |
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| 01:49.59 | dvs | moopi22: I'd use /dev/sda |
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| 01:50.18 | moopi22 | dvs, debian installer told me to use /dev/sda7 |
| 01:50.21 | moopi22 | should i listen to it? |
| 01:50.37 | dvs | moopi22: to install GRUB? |
| 01:50.47 | moopi22 | dvs, debian installer was unable to install it |
| 01:50.59 | moopi22 | so it told me to manually install with such partition and root |
| 01:51.07 | dvs | moopi22: I'd use /dev/sda (the MBR) |
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| 01:51.25 | moopi22 | but i have a such idea, to use windows bootloader |
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| 01:51.51 | moopi22 | thats why im installing grub on partition |
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| 01:52.41 | dvs | moopi22: Whatever floats your boat. I'd install grub to /dev/sda and use grub to boot Windows |
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| 01:53.25 | moopi22 | what is this: config-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 01:53.33 | moopi22 | should i put it into menu.lst somewhere? |
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| 01:54.57 | Zone | b0t: what directory are you trying to write to? |
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| 01:55.15 | b0t | /home/unreal/NeoStats3.0/NEO/ |
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| 01:55.58 | Zone | b0t: then as root you'd do something like "chown jack:jack -R /home/unreal/NeoStats3.0/NEO" |
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| 01:56.27 | Zone | b0t: or if you want other users besides jack to be able to write, put them in a group, and then give the group permission to write to the directory |
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| 01:57.16 | LtL | b0t: that error looks like you're trying to write to the file, sure your syntax is right? |
| 01:57.40 | b0t | niceee Zone |
| 01:58.34 | b0t | LtL: the solution is permission |
| 01:58.39 | b0t | Zone: thanks you! |
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| 02:21.52 | vol4ko2 | i am installing debian |
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| 02:22.03 | vol4ko2 | setting up the network right now |
| 02:22.16 | dvs | !win vol4ko2 |
| 02:22.16 | dpkg | Congratulations, vol4ko2! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 02:22.16 | vol4ko2 | can i set my hostname to be |
| 02:22.31 | vol4ko2 | server.domain.com |
| 02:22.36 | vol4ko2 | i am not sure |
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| 02:22.57 | vol4ko2 | since the description says: "The hostname is a signle word that identifies your system to the network... |
| 02:23.02 | somiaj | vol4ko2: it can be qualitifeid or unqualified name, depending on what you are going to use it for. |
| 02:23.20 | vol4ko2 | i am going to install ispconfig |
| 02:23.27 | somiaj | vol4ko2: usually you call it 'server', and then add a domain, so it becomse server.domain.com |
| 02:23.34 | dvs | vol4ko2: it should be a single name for now. |
| 02:23.45 | dvs | vol4ko2: the installer will ask you for the domain as well. |
| 02:23.50 | somiaj | you can change it later, but yea do a single name, the second question will be your fully qualified domain. |
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| 02:24.26 | vol4ko2 | and what will be fully qualified domain |
| 02:24.33 | vol4ko2 | server.domain.com, right? |
| 02:24.48 | vol4ko2 | yeah here is it |
| 02:25.08 | vol4ko2 | or only to put the domain name |
| 02:25.40 | vol4ko2 | The domain name is part of your Internet address to the right of your host name. It often something that ends in .com |
| 02:25.41 | vol4ko2 | .. |
| 02:27.00 | republican_devil | yeah |
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| 02:27.17 | vol4ko2 | thanks |
| 02:27.23 | ganjafarmer | when I run "apt-get remove libreoffice libreoffice-core", why does it want to remove the "gnome" package? |
| 02:27.26 | vol4ko2 | anyone from here run game server on debian? |
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| 02:30.06 | vol4ko2 | what can cause upgrading kernel, can i lost my web server configurations? |
| 02:30.18 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: because the gnome is a meta package that brings in the complete gnome desktop, and libreoffice are part of that in debian |
| 02:30.41 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: removing that package doesn't effect gnome at all, as it is a meta package, but you just don't have the complete gnome DE as debian set up. |
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| 02:31.03 | ganjafarmer | somiaj: so i should be able to safely run that and it won't screw up gnome? |
| 02:31.08 | somiaj | vol4ko2: on debian stable the only upgrades are security fixes and some bug fixes but the major version stays teh same, so nothing should need reconfigured when it is upgraded. |
| 02:31.33 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: it may put some other packages on autoremove because gnome is holding them there, but you can easily fix that by changing the auto/manual flag |
| 02:31.53 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: as in that would be the worse possibility, you need to set some manual flags on some of the other gnome packages |
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| 02:33.11 | ganjafarmer | great, thanks. i ran it and all seems to be well |
| 02:33.31 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: try running 'apt-get --dry-run autoremove' |
| 02:33.54 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: does it want to remove tons or any packages (that aren't libreoffice libs) |
| 02:34.27 | ganjafarmer | it wants to remove 173 packages |
| 02:34.34 | ganjafarmer | including several gnome-* ones |
| 02:34.44 | somiaj | that is what I thoguht, avoid libs, but for major packages you want to set them to manual |
| 02:36.20 | ganjafarmer | is autoremove going to run on its own at some point, or im safe so long as i don't run that command? |
| 02:36.42 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: we want to change some of the packages to manual (from auto), it is a flag to keep this from happening |
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| 02:37.35 | ganjafarmer | so how/where do i switch that flag? |
| 02:39.54 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: I was not finding how to setit with apt-get, but this will work 'aptitude unmarkauto gnome-core |
| 02:40.14 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: run that and gnome-core shiould no longer be auto, and that will limit the ones it wants ot autoremove |
| 02:41.11 | ganjafarmer | oddly enough, that prompts me to remove 173 packages. the output looks similar to the autoremove command |
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| 02:41.27 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: damn yea apt wants to autoremove by default |
| 02:42.05 | somiaj | ganjafarmer: this works, but isn't the cleanest. 'apt-get install gnome-core' (this will say it is at the newest version but it will change the flag, and you will notice it will want to remove less) |
| 02:42.38 | ganjafarmer | hah, nice! now autoremove wants to remove 0 packages |
| 02:42.43 | somiaj | okay good, (: |
| 02:42.50 | ganjafarmer | thanks for your help |
| 02:42.56 | somiaj | and it didn't pull back in libreoffice? |
| 02:43.07 | ganjafarmer | nope |
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| 02:46.20 | skilz | Oh crap I broke my system. I had the free ATI Radeon drivers workin and Xorg was fine then I decided to install the non-free ones. Now I want to remove them and go back to the free ones. X wont start |
| 02:46.24 | skilz | :( |
| 02:48.03 | skilz | fuarkkkk |
| 02:48.07 | skilz | I HATE this |
| 02:48.26 | skilz | Says some shit about no screens found |
| 02:48.48 | dioz | have you checked support.amd.com for instructions on installing in linux? |
| 02:49.47 | skilz | Dude I have no X |
| 02:49.55 | skilz | It was working fine before I messed it up |
| 02:50.03 | skilz | Now I have to format and start over again FML |
| 02:50.28 | skilz | After I restarted my computer x wouldnt start |
| 02:50.33 | skilz | FML |
| 02:50.53 | skilz | So much wasted time on this |
| 02:50.55 | dioz | it's something like aticonfig -install |
| 02:51.02 | dioz | and stop being a little bitch |
| 02:51.02 | skilz | What? |
| 02:51.40 | dioz | aticonfig -initial |
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| 02:52.02 | dioz | shoudl make your xorg.conf file |
| 02:52.06 | somiaj | skilz: what did you do before you restarted? |
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| 02:52.14 | somiaj | dioz: you shouldn't need that, a few lines is all. |
| 02:52.26 | dioz | it'll do what he wants to do |
| 02:52.32 | skilz | Moduel fglrx not found |
| 02:52.53 | skilz | somiaj: I forget. A lot of things |
| 02:52.53 | somiaj | skilz: if you want to remove the non-free drives, jsut delete your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and any files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ files, or backthem up, move them out of the way |
| 02:53.06 | somiaj | skilz: yea you need to remove the configs then xorg will automatically detect the free radeon drivers again |
| 02:53.19 | dioz | that's what i'm sayin |
| 02:54.13 | hfp | Hi all, I'm a bit lost with the server I am trying to setup. I would like to run an Asterisk PBX, a NFS fileserver, a Usenet download suite and a ZNC IRC bouncer on my home server. Right now, all of this is running on an old P4 desktop repurposed into a home server. I got a Xeon server from work and I would like to use it as the new home server. But I'm a bit confused how to go about it. Should I just put every daemon side b |
| 02:54.14 | hfp | y side in Debian or should I setup a Debian basesystem and make separate virtual machines for every application I intend to run? |
| 02:54.18 | skilz | I done it but still no screens found |
| 02:54.23 | skilz | I need to reinstall the free driver |
| 02:54.46 | dioz | hfp: use promox and setup those services in their own VM is my suggestion |
| 02:54.51 | dioz | or wmware |
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| 02:54.53 | dioz | vmware |
| 02:55.11 | skilz | somiaj: Can you please login and fix it for me? |
| 02:55.22 | dioz | skilz: did you aticonfig -initial ? |
| 02:55.31 | somiaj | skilz: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* |
| 02:55.35 | somiaj | skilz: do you see any files in that list? |
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| 02:56.37 | hfp | dioz: Alright, and what about the NFS server? Also in a VM or in the underlying system? |
| 02:56.48 | somiaj | hfp: choice is up to you, you can run multple services on the same install, or split it up into vms if you want. Older hardware might not do the vms the best since you might not have hardware virt support |
| 02:56.57 | dioz | i'd put the NFS and asterix in their on vm |
| 02:57.05 | skilz | somiaj: Yes its fucked |
| 02:57.09 | skilz | Im just gonna format this |
| 02:57.15 | somiaj | skilz: why not answer my question |
| 02:57.20 | somiaj | skilz: again do you have any files in that list? |
| 02:57.28 | skilz | It's FUBAR |
| 02:57.31 | hfp | somiaj: This server I got is a dual Xeon, I think it will be able to handle virtualization |
| 02:57.33 | skilz | No I dont |
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| 02:57.55 | somiaj | skilz: okay lets check your Xorg.0.log file, |
| 02:58.45 | skilz | After I installed the proprietry ATI driver and rebooted the first time X worked but the console res was shit. Something like 800x600 |
| 02:58.47 | dioz | hfp: what cpu is it? |
| 02:58.56 | somiaj | skilz: how did you install the ati driver? |
| 02:59.06 | skilz | From the debian page |
| 02:59.08 | dioz | i think you download a |
| 02:59.10 | skilz | SOme debian page |
| 02:59.16 | dioz | this is dumb |
| 02:59.22 | dioz | you, skilz are dumb |
| 02:59.24 | dioz | dumb dumb dumb |
| 02:59.25 | somiaj | hfp: grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo -- does that return anything. |
| 02:59.25 | dioz | i'm out |
| 02:59.28 | hfp | dioz: Xeon 3070 |
| 02:59.35 | hfp | dioz: With 8GB RAM |
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| 02:59.54 | dioz | nice! |
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| 03:00.11 | skilz | I ALWAYS manage to do something like this and screw it up. |
| 03:00.13 | hfp | somiaj: Yes it does return a few things |
| 03:00.23 | dioz | http://ark.intel.com/products/27206/Intel-Xeon-Processor-3070-4M-Cache-2_66-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB |
| 03:00.30 | somiaj | hfp: oh I thought you said it was an older p4. didn't realize this is what you were moving from. |
| 03:00.44 | somiaj | hfp: yea then you have hardware virt support, I'd suggest kvm since it is included int he linux kernel |
| 03:00.45 | skilz | How can I just uninstall x and try again |
| 03:00.46 | dioz | vt-x is always nice |
| 03:00.50 | hfp | somiaj: The current home server is an older P4 that I'm looking to replace by that newly acquired Xeon server |
| 03:01.42 | skilz | somiaj: No whats the steps for installing xorg with the free radeon driver? |
| 03:01.46 | skilz | now |
| 03:02.11 | dioz | https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 03:02.16 | dioz | read the already provided help docs |
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| 03:03.00 | dioz | https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 03:03.09 | skilz | Moduel fglrx not found |
| 03:03.12 | skilz | FATAL |
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| 03:03.31 | skilz | How do I fix the moduel? |
| 03:03.45 | dioz | it means your xorg.conf is wrong |
| 03:04.05 | skilz | SO I need to format it? |
| 03:04.18 | dioz | you need to dip it in water |
| 03:04.21 | somiaj | skilz: again, 'ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*' What is the output fo that? |
| 03:04.26 | dioz | like the tub |
| 03:04.29 | dioz | with you sitting in it |
| 03:04.31 | skilz | somiaj: Nothing |
| 03:04.32 | skilz | No files |
| 03:04.53 | somiaj | then there should be nothing telling your xserver to use the fglrx module |
| 03:05.51 | skilz | vesa: ignoring device with a bound kernel driver |
| 03:06.17 | skilz | Sory I had to rm the xorg.conf file again since I dont that other config step |
| 03:06.41 | dioz | did you try and aticonfig -initial ? |
| 03:07.10 | dioz | i mean... if it's proprietary drivers |
| 03:07.15 | skilz | yes |
| 03:07.18 | skilz | its fucked |
| 03:07.28 | skilz | im just gonna format and reinstall when I get back home |
| 03:07.40 | skilz | I installed too much weird shit and apt sources |
| 03:07.57 | skilz | from different released |
| 03:07.58 | skilz | s |
| 03:08.18 | dioz | so did you try aticonfig -initial? |
| 03:08.37 | dioz | and what did it say? |
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| 04:02.30 | mojom | hey does anyone have experience with initramfs here? |
| 04:02.53 | mojom | I need to somehow export the output from dmesg from within initramfs, so that I can troubleshoot my disk detection problem |
| 04:03.02 | mojom | I can't seem to mount drives from within initramfs |
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| 04:03.09 | mojom | (even usb ones) |
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| 04:04.09 | Rusty1 | mojom: perhaps describe the disk detection problem |
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| 04:05.35 | Rusty1 | maybe we can help with that without jumping into initramfs |
| 04:05.43 | mojom | Rusty1: short time ago I ran a routine apt-get upgrade under wheezy, which has been running just fine for months; suddenly, it cannot see any of my drives |
| 04:06.05 | mojom | however, i still have the old squeeze kernel, and it can see them just fine |
| 04:06.37 | mojom | when it boots into the new kernel, I get lots of "ata#: reset failed, giving up" and "udevd: timeout" errors |
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| 04:06.46 | mojom | and then I get dropped to an initramfs prompt |
| 04:06.58 | mojom | i need to post the output of dmesg so that folks on debian-user can help me |
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| 04:07.23 | mojom | but from initramfs, I cannot seem to mount any usb drives or see the network, so i can't get the output to a file on another system, so that i can post it on user forums |
| 04:08.17 | mojom | BTW, even booting from a debian 7.5 netinst disk and droping to busybox prompt in recovery mode: even in this situation I cannot see my drives |
| 04:08.51 | mojom | anyway: any ideas how I can send information from within initramfs to another file system? |
| 04:09.59 | mojom | (hello?) |
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| 04:11.30 | Rusty1 | mojom: can you see the drives from, say , a live cd |
| 04:12.40 | mojom | I can see them when booting from the old kernel; i can see them in bios; i haven't tried a debian livecd, if there is such a thing |
| 04:12.57 | mojom | (a netinst disk is not a livecd?) |
| 04:13.21 | mojom | (I have a CD with debian 7.5 netinstall -- i cannot see them from there) |
| 04:14.24 | Rusty1 | ok, lvm . raid in the picture ? |
| 04:14.48 | Cpuroast | yup, kernel 3.14 from sid runs nicely on jessie |
| 04:15.19 | Cpuroast | added sid repo, installed new kernel and headers, removed sid repo, reboot :) |
| 04:15.52 | mojom | raid is not in the picture; i don't know what lvm is |
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| 04:18.49 | Cpuroast | 3.13 is now EOL, so I was getting a bit antsy |
| 04:19.25 | terabit | use 3.12 it's stable |
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| 04:19.52 | Cpuroast | 3.13 is what's on testing |
| 04:19.56 | Cpuroast | so |
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| 04:21.05 | zykotick9 | judd: kernels |
| 04:21.06 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.14-trunk-686-pae (3.14.1-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.2-1); jessie: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.10-1); wheezy-backports: 3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.13.10-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.57-3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.54-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze5) |
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| 04:23.41 | Cpuroast | bah, 3.14 seems ok for now |
| 04:24.12 | Cpuroast | we'll see, I kept 3.13 as the alt boot in case |
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| 04:25.19 | Cpuroast | and I assume it |
| 04:25.34 | Cpuroast | its pretty much guaranteed 3.14 will land in testing sooner rather than later |
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| 04:26.28 | Rusty1 | mojom: cant cat the dmesg output >> to a file , boot back into the old kernel and post the file? |
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| 04:29.00 | mojom | Rusty1: I can't mount any drives; anything I save on initramfs's /tmp dir gets erased: how to I access initramfs from within the main system? |
| 04:29.08 | mojom | (i.e., after booting with the old kernel?) |
| 04:29.43 | mojom | Rusty1: i.e., I can't seem to save the output anywhere that can be seen on the system when I reboot with the old kernel |
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| 04:32.06 | Rusty1 | mojom: sry , not being much help here , i guess i would find a live dvd or cd , knoppix or somesuch, with a kernel as recent or newer, and see if you can troubleshoot |
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| 04:32.38 | mojom | kthx |
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| 04:37.07 | Lady_Aleena | How do I uninstall a program? I thought it was "sudo apt-get uninstall <program>". |
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| 04:37.58 | themill | Lady_Aleena: what does 'man apt-get' suggest? |
| 04:38.30 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, got it, not uninstall, purge. |
| 04:38.35 | chrisoprase | Hi, i'm having problems with pulseaudio on wheezy: sound isn't working for everyday apps, but if I try "arecord | aplay" I get sth. Here's some errors from syslog (some of them must've been me killing pulseaudio) |
| 04:38.40 | chrisoprase | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c8de99606a95e3e238bb |
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| 04:39.07 | themill | Lady_Aleena: or normally "remove" -- purging will also get rid of config files in /etc for that package which isn't always what you want to do. |
| 04:39.38 | Lady_Aleena | themill, well since I hadn't set up cron-apt, no big loss afaik. |
| 04:40.03 | themill | indeed, if the config files are not precious, then purging is sensible. |
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| 04:41.59 | trist4n | bbbut |
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| 04:44.40 | Lady_Aleena | grr...I forgot how to reload .bash_aliases |
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| 04:44.56 | SirLagz | close and reopen a terminal ? |
| 04:45.13 | Lady_Aleena | I thought it was "/.bash_aliases" |
| 04:46.01 | themill | that would try to execute the file /.bash_aliases; you want "source" |
| 04:47.04 | Lady_Aleena | That didn't work either. |
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| 06:30.16 | Lady_Aleena | SirLagz and themill, I was looking for the dot, in case you are interested. ". .bash_aliases" |
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| 06:37.52 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: "." is shorthand for "source" |
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| 06:40.05 | SirLagz | Lady_Aleena: google told me that too haha |
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| 06:44.56 | Lady_Aleena | jelly-home, "source" didn't work with .bask_aliases. I got file not found. |
| 06:45.00 | Mangolian | Ìû |
| 06:45.21 | jelly-home | basking in aliases not recommended |
| 06:45.30 | Lady_Aleena | .bash_aliases *head desk* |
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| 06:45.44 | Lady_Aleena | No autocomplete here. |
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| 06:47.44 | Mangolian | Ìû |
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| 06:51.30 | _2_cutiepie30440 | hi |
| 06:51.35 | _2_cutiepie30440 | (L) |
| 06:51.47 | _2_cutiepie30440 | :O |
| 06:51.50 | _2_cutiepie30440 | ;) |
| 06:52.19 | computerman | just curious...is there a better channel i should be in for linux mint11 ? i run a minecraft server and its what im cutting my teeth on linux with |
| 06:52.33 | themill | dpkg: tell computerman about mint |
| 06:52.44 | computerman | ?¿? |
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| 06:53.03 | themill | .ai _2_cutiepie30440 |
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| 06:54.13 | computerman | i guess nobody likes mint11? |
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| 06:54.39 | themill | computerman: as dpkg said to you, the people in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org probably do |
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| 06:54.59 | computerman | ok ty. |
| 06:55.17 | computerman | bye |
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| 07:07.32 | ted20 | good morning |
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| 07:08.54 | ted20 | I've a black screen on minitube, console says: VLC doesn't support h264... |
| 07:09.01 | ted20 | Video & Audio |
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| 07:16.29 | roshanavand | ted20: Google knows! https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=101303 |
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| 07:24.50 | LeadCenobite | hallo |
| 07:25.04 | LeadCenobite | Linux has a far worse Lock-In than Windows or Apple o.O |
| 07:25.06 | ido370 | hoi |
| 07:25.17 | LeadCenobite | Wine install on Fedora -> Works fine |
| 07:25.25 | LeadCenobite | Wine install on Debian -> Pain in the Ass |
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| 07:28.44 | xayon | LeadCenobite: conclusion: windows software sucks. |
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| 07:29.20 | babilen | LeadCenobite: Please take it somewhere else if you don't require actual support. (e.g. #debian-offtopic or /dev/null) |
| 07:29.34 | LeadCenobite | xayon: conclusion: Why Linux can't agree with one Installer? |
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| 07:34.52 | xayon | LeadCenobite: Because that asumption is just stupid. Check fedora's wine version and debian's wine version. Then probably upgrade/downgrade wine to the version that supports your cr*** windows software acording to winehq, if no winehq entry, do it to the wine version in fedora. For wine stuff, you'll probably want to install a recent version from testing or sid with some apt-pinning magic. |
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| 07:36.32 | babilen | xayon: Please, the advice to take it to, for example, #debian-offtopic holds for you too. (and don't bite) |
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| 07:37.17 | prepangolin | Hi |
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| 07:37.48 | prepangolin | Hello every |
| 07:37.55 | prepangolin | I 've something to ask. |
| 07:37.58 | xayon | babilen: Ok, I tought of the answer as a support one and didn't go there for that reason. And don't worry, I don't bite (and much less if you're right). |
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| 07:38.09 | mandrivan | hi how can solve this No protocol specified |
| 07:38.09 | mandrivan | (gpartedbin:2365): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 |
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| 07:39.21 | jelly-home | mandrivan: use gksudo to run X apps as root |
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| 08:00.06 | AlexC__ | Is there an updated CloudFormation template for Debian 7.5? https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Wheezy#CFTemplate is for 7.3 and doesn't work the CloudFormation any more |
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| 08:13.05 | skilz | How do I get a nice looking color terminal prompt in urxvt? |
| 08:13.28 | milligan | I'm in the process of bundling a piece of software I have written in a .deb for easy deployment. It will put my engine in a /home directory and it will put some files under /var/www/myengine for display. Can I create a user with the .deb that the files should be owned by, etc? |
| 08:13.39 | jelly-home | Kingsy: link count. This directory is visible in 9 places all over the filesystem. |
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| 08:15.41 | jelly-home | Kingsy: spoiler: it's visible in the parent directory as "itsname", it's visible in itself as ", |
| 08:16.00 | jelly-home | Kingsy: spoiler: it's visible in the parent directory as "itsname", it's visible in itself as ".", and it's visible in the seven subdirectories as ".." |
| 08:16.26 | buumi | I have two questions about apt-pinning: I'm trying to run on my other computer mixed testing and sid system. I set pin-priority for unstable to -10 and default release to testing. Now 1. if I install package from unstable by apt-get install package/unstable, will it stay in that version until I tell it to upgrade by apt-get upgrade package/unstable or until newer version hits testing? So it won't automatically upgrade to newer version in unstable? 2. As I set p |
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| 08:22.33 | Kingsy | jelly-home: do you know how I can easily install GLIBC_2.14 ? |
| 08:22.44 | Kingsy | on debian wheezy ? |
| 08:23.05 | SynrGy | no. you don't do that. you get a package built for wheezy instead. |
| 08:23.17 | SynrGy | one that doesn't depend on a later glibc |
| 08:23.30 | Kingsy | hmmm I am attempting to use hamachi and it relies on that package |
| 08:23.31 | skilz | Hey how do I check what video driver Xorg is using? |
| 08:23.44 | SynrGy | !wheezy-backports |
| 08:23.44 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the "Jessie" (8.0) release of Debian but recompiled for use with "Wheezy" (7.x) can be found in the "wheezy-backports" repository. Note that wheezy-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
| 08:23.55 | SynrGy | Kingsy: hamachi from where? |
| 08:24.08 | Kingsy | SynrGy: https://secure.logmein.com/labs/ |
| 08:24.13 | Kingsy | just downloading the deb |
| 08:24.45 | Yoshi1 | oh wow some how my clock get set 4 hours ahead and i cant seem to fix it |
| 08:25.25 | SynrGy | Kingsy: that deb is not intended for wheezy. |
| 08:26.09 | Kingsy | SynrGy: hmm so iot seems |
| 08:26.15 | Kingsy | I cant find a version for wheezy |
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| 08:27.45 | fishsponge | does anyone know how to get the number of inodes used and available on a BTRFS filesystem over NFS? Usually I type "df -i", but with a BTRFS filesystem over NFS it's showing "0" for everything... any ideas?? |
| 08:29.23 | SynrGy | Kingsy: huh. which specific file? |
| 08:29.31 | Yoshi1 | SynrGy: yeah there seemns to not be a hamachi package in wheezy backports |
| 08:30.00 | SynrGy | hamachi is not in debian. so of course there's not one in backports. |
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| 08:31.25 | SynrGy | Kingsy: which architecture is your system? i can find nothing wrong with the i386 deb nor the x86 tgz |
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| 08:32.02 | Kingsy | SynrGy: 64bit |
| 08:32.46 | Yoshi1 | Kingsy: you might be able to get away with the 32 bit version anyway |
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| 08:33.10 | Kingsy | hmm I suppose its worth a shot |
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| 08:33.27 | SynrGy | i didn't attempt to install it. i just extracted it |
| 08:33.52 | Yoshi1 | not sure what that means |
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| 08:35.02 | SynrGy | ,v libc6 |
| 08:35.03 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u1; jessie: 2.18-5; sid: 2.18-5 |
| 08:35.46 | SynrGy | with wheezy libc6 on this system, the extracted binary runs fine. |
| 08:36.25 | SynrGy | not sure why you would receive errors about GLIBC_2.14 ... |
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| 08:36.26 | skilz | How come when I version myself I get VERSION xchat 2.8.8 Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 [x86_64/1.20GHz/SMP] (1.20GHz) But my CPU is 2.8GHz i7? |
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| 08:36.51 | skilz | cat /proc/cpuinfo says it's 860 @ 2.80GHz |
| 08:37.01 | SynrGy | skilz: sounds right to me. |
| 08:37.29 | SynrGy | oh, you're wondering about the GHz? i don't know hwere that string comes from in xchat version |
| 08:38.32 | Kingsy | hmmm naaa it just says package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64) |
| 08:38.42 | well_laid_lawn | ondeand govenor might have clocked it down |
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| 08:38.50 | SynrGy | !multiarch |
| 08:38.50 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
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| 08:39.22 | rryoumaa | what stands in the way of those packages existing already on those systems? |
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| 08:39.54 | SynrGy | rryoumaa: which packages existing on which systems? |
| 08:40.06 | rryoumaa | SynrGy: why do you /need/ multiarch? |
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| 08:40.51 | Kingsy | more errors --> logmein-hamachi depends on lsb-core (>= 3.0) |
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| 08:41.32 | SynrGy | Kingsy: apt-get -f install |
| 08:41.34 | aton` | hi |
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| 08:41.55 | SynrGy | rryoumaa: the hypothesis is that they've built the binaries for two different versions of glibc |
| 08:42.05 | rryoumaa | ah |
| 08:42.19 | SynrGy | great quality, huh? |
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| 08:44.16 | Kingsy | SynrGy: that didnt work.. it installed alot of stuff.. but hamachi did not install and still has the same error when I atempt to |
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| 08:46.00 | Kingsy | SynrGy: check it out --> http://pastie.org/9167862 |
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| 08:47.44 | SynrGy | priceless |
| 08:48.00 | Kingsy | I guess I have mad ea mistake somewhere :( |
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| 08:48.50 | Kingsy | SynrGy: any suggestions? |
| 08:49.00 | SynrGy | Kingsy: its idea how to 'fix' the problem seems a little strange. 'remove logmein-hamachi and remove the running kernel'... wtf? |
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| 08:49.09 | fishsponge | does anyone know how to get the number of inodes used and available on a BTRFS filesystem over NFS? Usually I type "df -i", but with a BTRFS filesystem over NFS it's showing "0" for everything... any ideas?? |
| 08:49.21 | SynrGy | Kingsy: why did you say 'yes' to that? |
| 08:49.39 | babilen | "apt-get knows best" |
| 08:49.44 | ChrisH | fishsponge: does BTFS has the idea of Inodes? IIRC it does not have inodes |
| 08:50.15 | Kingsy | SynrGy: oh yeah... I didnt.. it asked if I wanted to remove it.. I said no |
| 08:50.34 | Kingsy | SynrGy: what do you think the best course of action to return this to normal might be? |
| 08:50.41 | SynrGy | Kingsy: line 24, you said 'y' |
| 08:51.00 | SynrGy | Kingsy: lines 16 and 17, it said it would remove it |
| 08:51.07 | Kingsy | oh yeah, crap I must have missed it |
| 08:51.18 | fishsponge | according to Netgear, BTRFS has 2^32 inodes (4 billion)... but when I run "df -i" while it's mounted on NFS it gives "0". and I cannot SSH into the ReadyNAS to do it locally. |
| 08:51.25 | Kingsy | it asked again and I said no once I realised. |
| 08:51.25 | fishsponge | ChrisH, ^^ |
| 08:51.36 | SynrGy | Kingsy: good thing. but next time, read more carefully. |
| 08:51.42 | Kingsy | yeah!! |
| 08:51.45 | petern_ | Looks like it's already done |
| 08:51.45 | Kingsy | heh |
| 08:51.46 | SynrGy | Kingsy: ask logmein to support your debian release. |
| 08:52.00 | petern_ | I'd apt-get install cpio initramfs-tools linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 just to be sure |
| 08:52.10 | Kingsy | SynrGy: what is the best way of return apt-get back? |
| 08:52.17 | aton` | my wifi wont work.. it say Configuring network interfaces... ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Operation not permitted, then 2x invalid argument and then dhcp fails to get an ip (because wlan0 is not associated) |
| 08:52.27 | Kingsy | petern_: ok, good idea |
| 08:52.55 | SynrGy | Kingsy: 'apt-cache policy'. something is strange about your system. i can't see how that would be logmein-hamachi's fault ... |
| 08:53.23 | SynrGy | i mean, i don't see in its deps how apt would come up with that solution |
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| 08:53.32 | Kingsy | ok 1 sec |
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| 08:54.03 | Kingsy | SynrGy: http://pastie.org/9167877 |
| 08:54.04 | SynrGy | ,v lsb-core |
| 08:54.05 | judd | Package: lsb-core on i386 -- squeeze: 3.2-23.2squeeze1; wheezy: 4.1+Debian8+deb7u1; jessie: 4.1+Debian12; sid: 4.1+Debian12 |
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| 08:56.36 | SynrGy | Kingsy: ah. lsb-core has a buttload of deps, probably not all of which are multiarch-enabled, i guess |
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| 08:56.47 | SynrGy | not in wheezy anyway |
| 08:57.04 | SynrGy | you can end up with 'strange' removals in a situation like that |
| 08:57.19 | Kingsy | ah ok |
| 08:57.42 | Kingsy | well apt-get seems to be back to normal now.. nothing new to upgrade.. and its up to date. |
| 08:58.03 | SynrGy | Kingsy: you could 'apt-get autoremove' at this point to remove the unneeded i386 crap |
| 08:58.12 | Kingsy | yeah just did that |
| 08:59.21 | buumi | Hmh, aptitude seems to work like I expect: aptitude install package/unstable which has dependencies on other packages on unstable won't be installed but apt-get install package/unstable brings in the dependencies from unstable too, why is that? |
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| 09:00.18 | buumi | unstable has pin-priority of -10 on jessie system ^ |
| 09:00.32 | SynrGy | Kingsy: so, the solution i should've suggested in the first place is "don't use logmein, use an alternative actually in debian". |
| 09:01.06 | Kingsy | yeah I am trying an older version.. see if that works.. if it doesnt I am going to have to use openvpn or soemthing |
| 09:01.44 | Kingsy | SynrGy: have you ever heard of an application called tuncfg ? |
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| 09:02.02 | SynrGy | Kingsy: where do you get that error, btw? |
| 09:02.19 | SynrGy | when i finally did just install the package in my chroot, there was no problem with that, either. |
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| 09:02.31 | SynrGy | (again, on i686, not amd64 ...) |
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| 09:03.00 | Kingsy | well I managed to install an older version just fine no errors |
| 09:04.06 | SynrGy | Kingsy: maybe i've been looking at that "older version" all along? |
| 09:04.16 | SynrGy | Kingsy: i explicitly linked to the version i was testing .. |
| 09:04.23 | Kingsy | hmm what version do you have? |
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| 09:04.34 | SynrGy | Kingsy: in the backlog ... |
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| 09:05.21 | SynrGy | ah, i intended to :) |
| 09:05.46 | SynrGy | https://secure.logmein.com/labs/logmein-hamachi_2.1.0.119-1_i386.deb |
| 09:06.11 | Kingsy | ah no, I couldnt get that installed on 64bit.. so I used logmein-hamachi_2.1.0.86-1_amd64.deb without error |
| 09:06.19 | aton` | http://paste.debian.net/98963/ <- whats wrong with this wifi config? |
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| 09:07.51 | aton` | http://paste.debian.net/98965/ <- wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 09:08.27 | SynrGy | Kingsy: strange that in my i386 chroot there was no problem with 2.1.0.119 |
| 09:09.07 | Kingsy | :( |
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| 09:17.12 | SynrGy | Kingsy: yup. reproduced your issue in an amd64 wheezy chroot. |
| 09:17.41 | Kingsy | SynrGy: ah ok.. cool!! at least it wasnt me being stupid |
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| 09:17.58 | Kingsy | so you reckon there is a way of getting it working? or should I just take it as unsupported? |
| 09:18.06 | SynrGy | it is unsupported. |
| 09:18.11 | Kingsy | cool |
| 09:18.14 | Kingsy | at least I know |
| 09:18.27 | Kingsy | that older version seemed to install.. but it has a very strange issue |
| 09:18.29 | SynrGy | ask the vendor for support for wheezy. |
| 09:18.53 | petern_ | For a lot of these people, Linux means Ubuntu :( |
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| 09:19.12 | Kingsy | the service runs, you can login, but SOME folders are not accessible and others are.. |
| 09:19.23 | Kingsy | permissions / user / groups are all exactrly the same on all folders |
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| 09:26.07 | milligan | Anyone good at VLAN tagging ? I'm having a hard time configuring my init scripts. Interfaces get brought up as intended and my default routes get added like I want .. but when I take them down, only my first vlan get's taken down, and then the script seems to die. [....] Deconfiguring network interfaces...Removed VLAN -:eth0.470:- Cannot find device "eth0.470" done. |
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| 09:34.14 | jubo2 | Hi.. something just removed all other entries from GRUB then this Debian7 .. |
| 09:35.14 | jubo2 | I needed to reboot to get rid of networking glitch and then in GRUB I notice all other options are missing but Debian and Debian sure boot |
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| 09:37.01 | jelly | milligan: care to pastebin your interfaces file? |
| 09:37.28 | jelly | !paste |
| 09:37.29 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 09:38.52 | sweb | how can i get header of response using sed |
| 09:39.13 | sweb | this comment remove header |
| 09:39.14 | sweb | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11376832/wget-save-headers-and-file-corruption |
| 09:39.27 | sweb | how can i get just header and remove other content |
| 09:39.46 | jubo2 | how do I get the missing OS'es back to GRUB menu ? |
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| 09:42.10 | themill | sweb: curl's --dump-header would be easier |
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| 09:43.49 | jubo2 | I haven't booted any of the other OS'es recently so this doings of some process in the Debian |
| 09:44.16 | jubo2 | All other OS entries removed from GRUB menu except Debian |
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| 09:44.35 | themill | jubo2: do you have the os-prober package installed? |
| 09:45.02 | jubo2 | themill: not to my knowledge |
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| 09:47.07 | jelly | sweb: or wget's --server-response (-S) and capturing stderr instead of --save-headers |
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| 09:48.23 | jubo2 | themill: what does os-prober do ? |
| 09:48.31 | themill | ,i os-prober |
| 09:48.33 | judd | Package os-prober (utils, extra) in wheezy/i386: utility to detect other OSes on a set of drives. Version: 1.58; Size: 29.6k; Installed: 137k |
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| 09:49.04 | Sades | hello, i need fix this error --> undefined reference to `SSLv2_client_method'collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 09:49.05 | themill | jubo2: update-grub uses it to do precisely that ^^ |
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| 09:49.40 | jubo2 | themill: ahh.. so 'sudo aptitude install os-prober' ? |
| 09:50.35 | jubo2 | themill: I checked.. I have it ( os-prober ) |
| 09:50.51 | jubo2 | so I run 'update-grub' or what ? |
| 09:51.06 | themill | ah... well, that's the limit of my knowledge of dual boot. It's more than a decade since I last did it... |
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| 09:52.16 | Sades | Helllo |
| 09:52.24 | Sades | i need fix this error --> undefined reference to `SSLv2_client_method'collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
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| 09:53.33 | jubo2 | themill: ait.. I ran 'sudo update-grub' and it found the other oS |
| 09:53.42 | jubo2 | I reboot now to check.. be back in a few |
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| 09:58.55 | jubo2 | Thank you themill |
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| 09:59.11 | jubo2 | the 'sudo update-grub' got everything sorted back to normal |
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| 10:07.16 | milligan | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/98971/ |
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| 10:12.36 | Tasab | hello all , tried many times to install fresh debian wheezy system beside the o/s windows7 , unfortunately the loader booting as well but monitoring text mode , how i can fix pls , thanx |
| 10:12.46 | jelly | milligan: is there a reason you have a weird address configured on the untagged interface? |
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| 10:17.20 | milligan | jelly, it was bringing it up with the address i had statically configured.. preferably I'd want it to come up with no address at all. |
| 10:17.51 | milligan | jelly, errr, it was bringing it up with the address I have on my .705 vlan .. Before I configured vlan, I had that address statically on eth0 |
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| 10:21.46 | jelly | milligan: theoretically, you ought to remove configuration for eth0 completely. In practice some drivers do not set up vlans properly if the links is not up, so you have to do something like |
| 10:22.30 | jelly | iface eth0 inet manual |
| 10:22.43 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:23.24 | milligan | jelly, wow .. ok .. I'll give that a go and see what happens. Cheers. |
| 10:24.20 | petern_ | hmm, "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet manual" should be enough to bring it up |
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| 10:24.48 | petern_ | at least, works for me. |
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| 10:25.31 | sts | hello folks. does anybody know why /usr/sbin/update-grub2 returns duplicate entries when generating the conf? (once from grub.d/10_linux, once from grub.d/30_os-prober) |
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| 10:26.35 | jelly | petern_: on lenny and squeeze, the link had to be up at the time of vlan device configuration to make them actually work |
| 10:27.08 | jelly | petern_: making sleep the important part |
| 10:28.01 | jelly | this was on proliants with bnx2, and older proliants with tg3 (all broadcom chips) |
| 10:28.10 | petern_ | Hmm, actually I'm using bonding on top of eth0 and eth1, that probably affects it |
| 10:28.34 | petern_ | Yeah, bnx2 |
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| 10:30.30 | sandman13 | I hear about "bugs" but what is a bug? or what to consider a bug? |
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| 10:31.10 | osfd_ | I changed the variable TERM to xterm+256color |
| 10:31.28 | themill | sandman13: in Debian, a bug is anything that needs fixing. |
| 10:31.30 | osfd_ | now the clear command no longer clear my screen |
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| 10:31.33 | petern_ | "xterm-256color" might work better |
| 10:31.44 | osfd_ | petern_: why that ? |
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| 10:32.07 | petern_ | Because - is not + |
| 10:32.30 | sandman13 | themill: I think I haven't encountered a bug then |
| 10:32.59 | osfd_ | petern_: /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm-256color does not exists |
| 10:33.11 | osfd_ | petern_: but /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm+256color does |
| 10:33.30 | themill | sandman13: hah... highly unlikely. |
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| 10:35.03 | petern_ | osfd_, trust me, it's xterm-256color |
| 10:35.28 | osfd_ | petern_: I do want to trust you, believe me :) but I also want to understand |
| 10:35.41 | sandman13 | themill: may be I have but a non-crtical one I don't know |
| 10:35.41 | peterrooney | osfd_: Very Odd. I think the next step is to run "apt-get --reinstall install ncurses-term" which both those files are supposed to belong to. |
| 10:35.45 | petern_ | there's an xterm-256color in /lib/terminfo/x |
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| 10:38.00 | peterrooney | wonders if there's a single word for doing a facepalm for yourself |
| 10:38.12 | osfd_ | petern_: you're right, I see it |
| 10:38.53 | osfd_ | how do I test I really am using a 256 colors terminal ? |
| 10:39.35 | SynrGy | sandman13: is this question going somewhere? trying to decide whether to file one or not, for example? |
| 10:39.41 | petern_ | ( x=`tput op` y=`printf %$((${COLUMNS}-6))s`;for i in {0..256};do o=00$i;echo -e ${o:${#o}-3:3} `tput setaf $i;tput setab $i`${y// /=}$x;done; ) |
| 10:39.58 | osfd_ | color test package |
| 10:40.34 | osfd_ | petern_: cute :) though I think it's 255 |
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| 10:40.55 | sandman13 | SynrGy: a simple theme issue on KDE but I don't know if it's a bug or not |
| 10:41.10 | SynrGy | sandman13: is the theme provided by debian? |
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| 10:41.18 | sandman13 | SynrGy: nope |
| 10:41.22 | SynrGy | sandman13: then no. |
| 10:41.48 | SynrGy | sandman13: file it upstream |
| 10:41.49 | osfd_ | petern_: I guess, ig my terminal is not 256 colors, I won't see all these beautifull colors but only a bunch of them |
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| 10:42.04 | petern_ | Right |
| 10:42.19 | SynrGy | sandman13: if they simply don't support running their theme on debian, they'll let you know. otherwise, assume it's a bug in the theme. |
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| 10:42.27 | sandman13 | SynrGy: okay |
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| 10:42.28 | nkuttler | i turned off 256 colors, messed badly with my vim syntax highlighting |
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| 10:42.43 | SynrGy | sandman13: if they can make a technical argument for why it's a bug in debian that is compelling, you might have a case for filing one on debian |
| 10:44.32 | sandman13 | SynrGy: may be I should contact the theme's author, it's a very minor issue something related with color. The same theme works fine for newer version of KDE in other distros |
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| 10:46.01 | SynrGy | yup |
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| 10:46.21 | SynrGy | sandman13: you'll find either upstream cares about your issue or doesn't. and if upstream doesn't, consider using a different theme. |
| 10:46.56 | SynrGy | or, as you say it is minor, just live with the issue ... |
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| 10:47.42 | SynrGy | but it's important when you find problems to engage with the people who have stakes in making it work for you. and in this case, i doubt if debian cares much about your problems using a third-party theme. :) |
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| 10:54.36 | mepl_ | Hi, I have a shellscript(using Unifi API) and when I run it I get different results depending if I am root or not. I need to track down what is causing this, both files have chmod 777 for testing, same result. Anyone know where I even start? |
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| 10:56.29 | mepl_ | Hi, I have a shellscript(using Unifi API) and when I run it I get different results depending if I am root or not. I need to track down what is causing this, both files have chmod 777 for testing, same result. Anyone know where I even start? |
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| 10:56.33 | mepl_ | sorry |
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| 11:17.35 | nand`` | I can't access my debian server, and I can't figure out why. I can boot into a rescue system and chroot into it, but as soon as I try booting the actual system, a few pings go through before it just goes completely dark. How can I figure out what's going on? |
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| 11:20.11 | nand`` | Looking at daemon.log, it seems the system mostly starts up fine; but some services complain about DNS resolution errors |
| 11:20.38 | nand`` | Maybe the network interface is not being configured correctly? It works for a handful of pings, though |
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| 11:22.00 | nand`` | vnstatd successfully starts monitoring eth0 so that seems to exist |
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| 11:23.26 | da3m0n22 | nand``: and log/messages show something? |
| 11:23.32 | nand`` | What log? |
| 11:23.44 | nand`` | Oh, /var/log/messages? |
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| 11:24.32 | da3m0n22 | yup |
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| 11:25.28 | nand`` | I don't know what I'd be looking for |
| 11:25.30 | da3m0n22 | btw. 'completely dark', in terms of networking, or the server stops/hangs ? |
| 11:25.52 | da3m0n22 | for anything network related, if that's your domain of interest |
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| 11:26.52 | nand`` | da3m0n22: I can't tell the difference. It's a remote machine. If I can't ping it, I have no way of connecting and finding out beyond what I've managed to piece together from my logs. But it seems to be staying up after it boots |
| 11:27.11 | nand`` | I can't find anything networking related in /var/log/messages |
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| 11:28.11 | da3m0n22 | nand``: and you boot rescue system via kvm console or how? |
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| 11:29.11 | nand`` | Something like that, I'm using the online control panel of my VPS provider which automatically boots it into a rescue system into which I can ssh and mount my disks |
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| 11:35.28 | nand`` | Oh, it's staying up now, I think. I disabled all portions of the network configuration related to IPv6 |
| 11:35.42 | nand`` | I can SSH in now, apparently. Weird |
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| 11:36.24 | da3m0n22 | nand``: probably pastebin your network configuration? could be related there |
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| 11:36.59 | da3m0n22 | nand``: i'd also try to login via kvm console and look on network settings when the server is inaccessible (see `route -a` and `ifconfig`) |
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| 11:43.19 | nand`` | da3m0n22: http://bpaste.net/show/271011/ |
| 11:43.29 | nand`` | This is the configuration that fails, with or without the comment on “gateway” |
| 11:43.37 | nand`` | If I comment out lines 14-17, it boots |
| 11:44.07 | aguitel | how install last iceweasel in squeeze? |
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| 11:50.20 | xayon | nand``: should'nt that be "iface foo inet6" instead of "iface foo net6"?= |
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| 11:50.45 | nand`` | Maybe? I haven't touched the file in over a year |
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| 11:50.50 | nand`` | Where would an error go if that's the issue? |
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| 11:51.26 | nand`` | Indeed it should be inet6 |
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| 11:52.09 | nand`` | Hmm, it boots successfully with that change |
| 11:53.00 | sandman13 | is there a way to add persistance to the live USB of debian? |
| 11:53.47 | zwalker | aguitel: apt-get update && apt-get install iceweasel |
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| 11:55.35 | FaTony | I'm using Mate and when I choose shutdown, I get back to display manager, how to fix it? |
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| 12:02.34 | DonkeyKong55 | What is "Mate"? |
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| 12:03.58 | Walex | DonkeyKong55: it is a kind of vegetable that Argentinians use to make an infusion, an alternative to tea leaves or stems. |
| 12:04.29 | FaTony | DonkeyKong55, it's fork of GNOME 2 |
| 12:04.51 | DonkeyKong55 | FaTony: Why not just use GNOME 3? :) |
| 12:04.54 | Walex | FaTony: it could be one of a millions causes. Most likely it is either BIOS/ACPI issue or not enough privilege to invoke shutdown. |
| 12:05.09 | shifty` | Hi folks - I've got a grubby problem. grub2 on sid. During an upgrade, dpkg fails on grub-pc_2.02~beta2-10_i386.deb with "post-installation script returned error exit status 30". Where do I find out what "exit status 30" means? |
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| 12:05.36 | sandman13 | DonkeyKong55: people who like classic GNOME use MATE the new GNOME v3.x is weird |
| 12:05.36 | Walex | FaTony: it the shutdown sequence does not happen at all, likely a privilege issue. |
| 12:06.01 | Walex | shifty`: 'sid' is discussed in #Debian-next on IRC.Debian.org |
| 12:06.25 | FaTony | Walex, how to troubleshoot it? |
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| 12:07.30 | Walex | FaTony: check logs, starting with the session log, usually '~/.xession_errors' and then the display manager's log, which depends on which display manager you are using. |
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| 12:11.40 | skilz | Hey how do I check what video driver Xorg is using? |
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| 12:12.15 | shifty` | Walex: huh, didn't know that - I'll go ask there. At this stage, though, I'm interested in gathering more data rather than yelling "I've got a problem with sid!" :-) |
| 12:12.32 | Walex | skilz: Xorg log is the only good way. |
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| 12:12.44 | skilz | What am I looking for? |
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| 12:13.18 | Walex | shifty`: as usual here, if you are using packages from the 'unstable' archive you should be experienced enough to debug those problems yourself... |
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| 12:13.46 | Walex | skilz: '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' usually |
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| 12:14.17 | skilz | Yeah but what line am I looking for? |
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| 12:14.24 | skilz | Give me something to search for. |
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| 12:17.07 | skilz | I'm sorry this is a bit off-topic, but my urxvt isn't shading darker and it looks like the shade color is white, how do I make the shading black and darker? Here is my .Xdefaults file; http://paste.debian.net/98987/ |
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| 12:17.51 | shifty` | Walex: yes, dear. I should. Although sometimes, even the best-and-brightest of us could do with a nudge in the right direction. |
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| 12:18.31 | Daulity | how would i set the cpu freq to max all the time ? |
| 12:19.14 | petern_ | cpufreq-selector -g performance -c ... |
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| 12:21.11 | Walex | skilz: the line usually is obvious... Actually all the lines that show a possible screen size in pixels are usually prefixed by the driver name. |
| 12:22.03 | shifty` | I'll try again folks: I'm trying to upgrade a package and it complains "post installation script exit status 30". How do I fix it? |
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| 12:22.23 | skilz | Hey one more thing, I just bought an Apple Wired Keyboard with Numeric Pad, but when I press ctrl+alt+1 etc it doesn't switch tty's. |
| 12:22.50 | Walex | shifty`: not the right channel, and what you do is run the postinst script manually with something like 'bash -x'. |
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| 12:23.29 | malmelmil | Hello, I am trying to make my wheezy xcfe usb persistent for somebody who wants to test it before converting. I googled and found a guide from 2013 that explains how to do this as a sort of dirty workaround, my question is, has a clean way to add persistence been added since last year? where can I find this info, thank you |
| 12:23.32 | skilz | Okay, so it looks like I'm using the VESA driver. How do I use the free ATI Radeon driver for Radeon 5800? |
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| 12:23.40 | skilz | Walex, |
| 12:23.48 | Walex | skilz: C-A-F1 (and probably the "alt" key does not do 'Alt'). |
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| 12:24.16 | sandman13 | what does stable nonfree live edition of Debian feature? |
| 12:24.28 | shifty` | Daulity: (just be aware that it's unlikely your machine will run any faster if you peg your CPU to max.) |
| 12:24.31 | sandman13 | does it have preinstalled firmwares for networking |
| 12:24.33 | sandman13 | ? |
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| 12:25.46 | shifty` | Walex: ok, ta. I was hoping there was a way to extract more information without going down that route (hence the question). I'll go read the code. *sigh* |
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| 12:27.13 | Walex | skilz: IIRC there are howtos on that, but you need the 'fglrx' packages. |
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| 12:27.40 | malmelmil | I redefine my question, where should I search for official up to date (2014 i guess) info on making wheezy usb persistent? I just find 2013 posts and guides, and mostly workarounds. Thank you |
| 12:28.23 | Walex | skilz: if you are experienced with package mixing you can get the latest and greatest from the SteamOS repos (version 14.4), or for an 5800 you can use the standard Debian packages (version 12.6). |
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| 12:29.46 | Walex | skilz: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#AMD_Catalyst_12.6 |
| 12:30.06 | skilz | Okay so I have xserver-xorg-video-radeon installed already, but why is x using VESA? |
| 12:30.13 | skilz | How do I make it use the radeon driver? |
| 12:30.46 | Walex | skilz: that is not the ATi driver, which is called 'fglrx', that is the open source one. It still needs the appropriate firmware package. |
| 12:31.10 | Walex | skilz: to debug why the 'radeon' driver is not selected you need to check the beginning of the X server logs. |
| 12:31.17 | skilz | I want to use the opensource one |
| 12:31.51 | Walex | skilz: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 12:32.12 | Walex | https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo#Firmware |
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| 12:33.51 | skilz | Walex, Please look at http://paste.debian.net/98991/ |
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| 12:36.52 | Walex | skilz: no DRM kernel module is loaded... Also you 'glx' module seems to be the one from the 'fglrx' package |
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| 12:37.18 | Walex | skilz: you probably messed around a bit. |
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| 12:38.30 | Walex | skilz: ensure that all traces of 'fglrx' are eliminated, and then beforestarting the 'Xorg' server ensure that the 'radeon' kernel module is loaded. |
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| 12:41.11 | skilz | Walex, Yeah I did mess around... So how do I remove all traces of fglrx? |
| 12:41.57 | skilz | I had the free ati drivers installed then decided to install proprietry driver |
| 12:42.01 | skilz | and that messed things up |
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| 12:42.09 | Walex | skilz: if you installed it from the AMD distribution 'tar.gz' it has an uninstaller script. |
| 12:42.21 | Walex | skilz: if you used the Debian packages just uninstall them. |
| 12:42.40 | skilz | I think I used a command |
| 12:43.00 | Walex | skilz: then return the same command with '--help' and it will tell you. |
| 12:43.07 | level7 | hello all |
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| 12:43.23 | level7 | anybody has a lenovo as laptop? |
| 12:43.26 | skilz | Walex, https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#wheezy |
| 12:43.49 | Walex | skilz: try 'sudo sh /usr/share/ati/amd-uninstall.sh' |
| 12:44.02 | Walex | level7: probably you :-) |
| 12:44.11 | level7 | not me :) |
| 12:44.17 | level7 | I am looking for a new laptop |
| 12:44.28 | Walex | level7: how much money? |
| 12:44.34 | level7 | and looking in the mailing list that a lot of users have a lenovo |
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| 12:44.42 | level7 | well under 2,000 possibly |
| 12:45.02 | skilz | Walex, Can't open |
| 12:45.02 | Walex | level7: the Dell Linux developer workstation XPS 13 is pretty awesome. |
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| 12:45.34 | Walex | skil |
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| 12:45.48 | AquaL1te | level7: lenovo is pretty good supported, x230 is nice |
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| 12:46.04 | Walex | skilz: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx |
| 12:46.07 | level7 | hum.. XPS 13.... |
| 12:46.29 | level7 | let me take a look ;) |
| 12:46.47 | Daulity | shifty`: i know i know :) |
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| 12:47.26 | Walex | level7: http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd |
| 12:48.02 | skilz | Oh I just done sudo apt-get remove fglrx-driver |
| 12:48.05 | skilz | Should that fix it? |
| 12:48.42 | Walex | level7: most "business style" Lenovos are well supported too and very popular |
| 12:49.04 | Walex | skilz: in an ideal world.... |
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| 12:49.58 | level7 | dunno... I found interesting only the latest carbon but it looks VERY expensive |
| 12:50.10 | petn-randall | level7: Either go for x230/x240 if you want a smaller formfactor, or go for the larger T models. They're all intel chipsets and should all work out of the box with Debian. |
| 12:50.25 | skilz | Ok now do I have to do anything? Or just restart x? |
| 12:50.31 | airos | hallo everyone. Is there a website where I can give a cpe like cpe:/a:apache:http_server:2.2.22 and see which security issues are present on it in debian? |
| 12:50.44 | level7 | the x230/240 could be nice but I cannot use them: I have big hands :( |
| 12:50.49 | level7 | so the 12" is not for me :( |
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| 12:52.04 | petn-randall | level7: Keyboard is fairly large, going edge-to-edge. I think it's the same size as the larger models. |
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| 12:53.58 | skilz | Walex, ? |
| 12:54.33 | comradekingu | level7: t530 has coreboot support |
| 12:55.55 | Walex | skilz: restart X |
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| 12:56.32 | level7 | I also was thinking of a MAC... but then.. hey where are the keys ? |
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| 12:57.17 | comradekingu | level7: you could get a novena and carry a keyboard of your chosing http://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop |
| 12:57.20 | Walex | level7: Dell XPS 13... |
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| 12:58.13 | level7 | the only bad thing: it has only 8GB :( |
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| 12:59.40 | level7 | but it looks like all notebook are on the 8gb, except the 15" and some macos |
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| 12:59.55 | level7 | anyway.. the thing is that I need Windows (in virtualbox...) |
| 13:00.05 | level7 | I have few applications that need windows |
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| 13:05.23 | skilz | Walex, Okay, http://paste.debian.net/99003/ |
| 13:05.28 | skilz | Just restarted the system |
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| 13:06.46 | skilz | Walex, I think it's working :) |
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| 13:08.07 | jeredepp | hello everyone, someone/thing accidentaly deleted a crucial folder on our server, does anyone have an idea where else i could look as in bash_history and checking for intruders in our logs? |
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| 13:09.31 | petn-randall | jeredepp: broken cron jobs? |
| 13:09.58 | jeredepp | yeah that's what i suspected at first, but there's not a single cron |
| 13:11.23 | jeredepp | what smells fishy about it, is that there's no command executed which would even remotly affect the folder |
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| 13:11.59 | jeredepp | also no aliengoo, ectoplasma or radiation around the HD |
| 13:12.03 | petn-randall | jeredepp: How many people have access to that machine that could have done it? |
| 13:12.07 | Walex | skilz: if it is working you should know from the log and from 'glxinfo' |
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| 13:12.57 | jeredepp | petn-randall: 3 people, and those are the only logins according to last |
| 13:13.02 | Walex | skilz: but yes the log looks good now |
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| 13:13.50 | skilz | Nice :) |
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| 13:13.59 | ted20 | good afternoon |
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| 13:14.06 | skilz | One more thing, how do I stop Firefox from saving history? |
| 13:14.11 | Walex | skilz: if you want to play Steam games, you need a few more updates, I wrote a list here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/14-one.html#140317 |
| 13:14.12 | skilz | and delete my history? |
| 13:14.23 | petn-randall | skilz: Use por^W^W^Wprivacy mode. |
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| 13:14.50 | Walex | skilz: don't worry about that, whichever spy agency in your country keeps the history for you forever :-) |
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| 13:15.17 | skilz | I don't want my girlfriend seeing what I've been looking at |
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| 13:15.34 | ted20 | skilz: Hi. Look at your settings |
| 13:15.35 | skilz | I can't see any options menu in firefox |
| 13:15.36 | Walex | skilz: never share a PC with your girlfriend... |
| 13:15.45 | ted20 | Walex: Why not? |
| 13:15.54 | jelly | skilz: use separate accounts and log off or lock yours, and use multiple sessions |
| 13:15.59 | themill | (perhaps it's time to explore certain trust issues in this relationship) |
| 13:16.14 | Walex | ted20: she could put keyloggers in or whatever else. Unless you want to do that to her. |
| 13:16.31 | ted20 | Walex: Yeah, but he uses a debian? |
| 13:16.34 | skilz | Ahh got it :) |
| 13:16.43 | dfrank_ | hi guys. A question about apt-get: I have put deb package (firefox_27.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_i386.deb) into the /var/cache/apt/archives , but 'apt-cache madison firefox' does not return that I can install version 27. I also tried to call 'apt-get update', no result. I know I can just install deb package with dpkg, but I'm wondering how to make apt-get to know about the package? Is there some special command to rescan cache? Can't find in man apt |
| 13:17.02 | Walex | as to keyloggers and girlfriends and surprises: http://mattforney.com/2014/01/08/the-key-logger-a-forbidden-glimpse-into-the-true-nature-of-women-by-nicholas-jack/ |
| 13:17.06 | ted20 | dfrank_: Are you a ubuntu? |
| 13:17.06 | skilz | Nah I'm talking about when she's over and she wants me to look up something and I open a new tap and up comes an online dating site |
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| 13:17.27 | ted20 | dfrank_: I recommend install the package from wheezy |
| 13:17.35 | Walex | skilz: ah you can use two profiles, one for "other" activities and one for main activities |
| 13:17.40 | ted20 | dfrank_: Are you on a ubuntu ;) |
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| 13:18.20 | dfrank_ | ted20: oh sorry, yes I am on ubuntu, so wrong channel.. |
| 13:18.27 | Walex | dfrank_: APT is driven by the 'Packages' list, not by what is in the cache |
| 13:18.43 | ted20 | dfrank_: No, no ;) |
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| 13:19.33 | ted20 | dfrank_: You want come back to old firefox without "new design"? |
| 13:19.34 | jelly | dfrank_: #ubuntu or even ##linux are more appropriate, then |
| 13:19.56 | jelly | ted20: please help him in #ubuntu or ##linux, not here |
| 13:19.56 | dfrank_ | Walex: hmm, but if some package version is not on the server, but it is in my local cache, it can install this particular version from my cache, right? |
| 13:20.15 | dfrank_ | jelly: ok, moving out. sorry |
| 13:20.23 | Walex | dfrank_: as long as that version is listed in the 'Packages' file... |
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| 13:32.39 | level7 | well the Dell XPS 13 looks promising :) |
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| 13:55.36 | do0fY | hi all |
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| 13:55.49 | do0fY | i am trying to get my tv card running on a openmedaivault / debian server |
| 13:56.11 | do0fY | anyone, who can help me with that: "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 2013:0258 Unknown (Pinnacle?)" |
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| 13:57.47 | Walex | do0fY: do a web search for: usb "2013:0258" |
| 13:57.54 | do0fY | i did |
| 13:58.00 | do0fY | didnt get it to work |
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| 13:58.32 | Walex | do0fY: did you see: http://lwn.net/Articles/573081/ |
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| 13:59.08 | do0fY | yes i downloaded the firmware at point 2 .. still not working |
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| 14:02.20 | woshty | I have problems telling xfce which iceweasel window to show on which workspace: from time to time a window seem to move without a reason and setting a window to always show on visible workspace does not work at all. Am I the only one with that issue? |
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| 14:09.39 | Walex | do0fY: did you check that the kernel you are using has that patch? |
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| 14:09.58 | d0uglas | hi folks, I want to comb my site's html/css/js for all hotlinks that may have slipped in, is there a more thorough and elegant command to do that than this? ... grep -R '://' .|grep -e 'script src' -e 'img src' -e 'url(?http' >> excise.txt |
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| 14:11.16 | Walex | d0uglas: yes. |
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| 14:12.36 | Walex | d0uglas: but this is really a question for #BASH, which has a number of people who like to show off their shell scripting skills |
| 14:13.01 | d0uglas | yeah I suppose it is, I'll ask there.. thanks |
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| 14:13.54 | oskie | i need to add something to tomcat's CLASSPATH, where is the proper place for that in Debian? |
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| 14:22.24 | Walex | oskie: that's a dark and twisted path you are taking :-) |
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| 14:41.00 | Walex | oskie: there is no proper place for that. |
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| 14:42.03 | stark` | is debian amd64 multiarch or do i have to get 32 bit libraries ? |
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| 14:42.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell stark` about multiarch |
| 14:43.27 | babilen | stark`: multiarch is supported since wheezy, but you wouldn't use it until you do. I am not sure what you mean by "amd64 is multiarch" -- amd64 is one of the many architectures that are supported by Debian |
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| 14:44.11 | skilz | How do I open xscreensaver? |
| 14:44.24 | stark` | babilen: am i going to have trouble running 32 bit packages and windows apps via wine ? |
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| 14:50.05 | babilen | stark`: I have no interest in wine and simply can't answer that question. I know that wine is pretty old in Debian, but that concludes my knowledge. You might want to ask the channel at large or in #winehq |
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| 14:50.16 | babilen | skilz: open? |
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| 14:50.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell stark` about wine |
| 14:50.36 | skilz | Sorry I was missing a package. |
| 14:50.39 | skilz | Fixed it |
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| 14:55.02 | stark` | thats a great bot |
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| 15:02.21 | hoxu | does networkmanager configure native IPv6 automatically if it's available via DHCP? |
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| 15:06.07 | aswen | hi there, I wonder if there is a unofficial netboot package that includes non-free firmware |
| 15:07.11 | teraflops | yes it is aswen |
| 15:07.39 | teraflops | not a package its an iso |
| 15:07.44 | aswen | teraflops, supercool |
| 15:07.57 | aswen | where can I find it? |
| 15:08.15 | teraflops | its on the debian site |
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| 15:08.30 | bezoka_ | is better aptitude or apt-get to install/remove something? |
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| 15:09.27 | aswen | I am actually searching for the pxeboot files |
| 15:10.10 | stark` | bezoka_: apt-get remove --purge |
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| 15:10.42 | aswen | And wonder if there is a version of http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ that includes support for pc's with realtek nic's that need the rtl firmwarez |
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| 15:12.05 | teraflops | aswen: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/debian-installer/ |
| 15:12.07 | sakang | bezoka_: apt-get purge |
| 15:12.43 | teraflops | look at the end for the isos aswen |
| 15:12.47 | bezoka_ | ah, but which of that two is better for install/remove |
| 15:12.51 | sakang | bezoka_: try both and examine output, then decide which gives you best |
| 15:12.53 | bezoka_ | apt-get or aptitude |
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| 15:13.01 | bezoka_ | sakang: okay |
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| 15:13.19 | LordDeath | has postfix in Debian support for "DANE"? |
| 15:13.45 | LordDeath | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS-based_Authentication_of_Named_Entities |
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| 15:14.16 | stark` | bezoka_: just don't use aptitude for system upgrades |
| 15:14.34 | bezoka_ | stark`: why? |
| 15:15.39 | aswen | teraflops, thank you. that's just not what I search, I search the PXEbootfiles that can be extracted onto a tftpserver to enable pxe boot |
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| 15:15.54 | teraflops | uhm sorry then |
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| 15:16.25 | teraflops | aswen: that? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ |
| 15:16.40 | aswen | I did find those but I want a version that includes the non-free firmwarez like these images: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 15:16.49 | aswen | no worries ;-) |
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| 15:17.39 | sakang | bezoka_: i use apt-get most of the times but sometimes I don't like what it tries to remove so I use aptitude to compare |
| 15:18.04 | Paradisee | i've just installed debian stable version 7.5, but im not able to run the desktop, it runs the terminal instead...how can i fix that? |
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| 15:19.05 | somiaj | Paradisee: did you choose to install a desktop during the instalation phase? |
| 15:19.19 | aswen | i know those firmwarez, thanx, but how should I provide them to the machine I try to install with pxe/tftp and this image: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/gtk/netboot.tar.gz |
| 15:19.31 | Paradisee | somiaj: yes i did |
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| 15:19.41 | stark` | bezoka_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-uptodate.en.html#aptitude |
| 15:19.46 | somiaj | Paradisee: what installer image did you use? |
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| 15:20.11 | Paradisee | what do you mean |
| 15:20.18 | stark` | quote:"aptitude is not the recommended tool for doing upgrades from one Debian GNU/Linux release to another" |
| 15:20.24 | Paradisee | the classic debian stable CD1 |
| 15:20.29 | somiaj | Paradisee: did you use the netinstall, cd1, dvd1, etc |
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| 15:20.58 | Paradisee | i installed from cd1, and get the upgrade from a mirror |
| 15:21.40 | somiaj | Paradisee: so you are online with that machine, can you put the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net (you can use pastebinit as a cli program to do this) |
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| 15:22.12 | Paradisee | how can i paste the source from terminal? |
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| 15:23.08 | Paradisee | im not able to connect the notebook with wifi, so i had to connect it with the ethernet cable |
| 15:23.34 | somiaj | Paradisee: that is fine, can you stay on the ethernet cable and I'll help get ya straightend out (including trying to get your wifi to work) |
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| 15:24.17 | somiaj | Paradisee: on the machine, you can apt-get install pastebinit, and then use that program to copy things to a pastebin |
| 15:24.20 | somiaj | !pastebinit |
| 15:24.21 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 15:24.44 | stormy3 | does a kernal need to be recompiled for klips / netkey setup, want to setup a vpn ipsec connection |
| 15:24.45 | somiaj | Paradisee: so install that program then 'apt-cache policy | pastebinit' |
| 15:25.12 | stormy3 | is error i get "ipsec_setup: No KLIPS support found while requested, desperately falling back to netkey |
| 15:25.16 | somiaj | stormy3: do you happen to know the config option for those, you could try 'grep -i klips /boot/config-ver' where ver=kernel version |
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| 15:26.03 | Paradisee | im at work 2 sec |
| 15:26.09 | stormy3 | i'm guessing not as per the above error somiaj |
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| 15:26.42 | somiaj | stormy3: well maybe it was just a module you had to load, but I'm not getting anything from grepping the config file, do you happen to know the actual kernel config option for those features? |
| 15:27.18 | stormy3 | somiaj: I don't, was following a how to but doesn't explain what if goes wrong, had a quick google but couldn't find much about it! :( |
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| 15:28.34 | somiaj | stormy3: everything I'm getting on google is about older kernels squeeze erra and before. |
| 15:29.14 | stormy3 | somiaj: thats what i've found so far! nothing about latest kernel, from what I can see klips replaced netkey, and should be supported. . |
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| 15:29.36 | stormy3 | http://strongvpn.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=788 - i followed that |
| 15:31.53 | Paradisee | somiaj: i have to dc this pc, and connect the other with debian, ill be back in a sec |
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| 15:35.01 | somiaj | stormy3: found some source that says KLIPS is not part of the linux kernel and you must get a patch |
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| 15:37.10 | stormy3 | somiaj: got any how to's to patch the kernel! |
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| 15:37.30 | Paradisee | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/99057 |
| 15:37.32 | Paradisee | here we go |
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| 15:40.32 | somiaj | Paradisee: hmm I do not know why the desktop was not installed if you selected it, anyways I would suggest removing your cdrom sources, on your laptop modify /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the deb-cdrom lines (just put a # in front). |
| 15:40.43 | somiaj | Paradisee: then run apt-get update. Do you want to get your wifi working or your desktop first? |
| 15:41.06 | Paradisee | i'd prefer the desktop before |
| 15:41.13 | somiaj | stormy3: I'm not finding any curent info on this, some how I think you are looking at outdated guides and there is a new protocol for vpn, I wouldn't know what it is |
| 15:41.17 | somiaj | Paradisee: what desktop do you want to run? |
| 15:41.32 | Paradisee | i dont care, i usually work on kde |
| 15:41.53 | somiaj | Paradisee: so what you ened to do is modify your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the deb-cdrom line. then run apt-get update |
| 15:42.39 | Paradisee | i have to install vim 2 sec |
| 15:42.54 | somiaj | Paradisee: nano is the default text editor you could use |
| 15:43.14 | somiaj | Paradisee: after that, just run 'apt-get install kde-full' and that will install the full kde desktop on your system. You may have to wait a while for it to download/install |
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| 15:44.05 | stormy3 | somiaj: fair enough, to be fair i just running a client that can connect to l2tp server! as the router here runs 2ltp and wanna setup a tunnel with that |
| 15:44.07 | Paradisee | ye i know how to install kde, but why am i not able to run the Desktop instead |
| 15:44.10 | somiaj | stormy3: https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN -- you just want openVPN right? |
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| 15:44.48 | somiaj | Paradisee: I'm unsure what was installed from the cd during the start. It could have been gnome, 'dpkg -l | grep gnome' do you have lots of gnome packages installed? |
| 15:45.03 | somiaj | Paradisee: since you wanted kde, I figured I'd just have you install kde then I would debug getting your xorg server to start. |
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| 15:46.05 | Paradisee | i think debian stable use xfce as default, not sure at all.. |
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| 15:46.56 | somiaj | stormy3: http://d.stavrovski.net/blog/post/how-to-set-up-vpn-server-using-ipsec-and-l2tp-in-debian-7-wheezy -- here is another guide I found with google, I don't know how good it would be as I haven't done any of this myself. |
| 15:47.39 | somiaj | Paradisee: no, the default debian desktop is gnome. When you boot the installer you can goto advanced option at the first boot screen (before you boot the installer) and choose what the default desktop will be. If you didn't choose anything it owuld be gnome |
| 15:47.42 | Paradisee | ok, ive just commented the sourcest.list |
| 15:48.23 | Paradisee | installing kde |
| 15:48.32 | Paradisee | it will take lot of time |
| 15:48.44 | somiaj | Paradisee: yes it will, (: |
| 15:48.50 | S4nD3r | What do you think about script lynis ? (http://www.rootkit.nl) |
| 15:48.56 | somiaj | Paradisee: but figure install the desktop you want from the start since I don't know what else has been installed. |
| 15:49.13 | berndj-blackout | what do i need to do to make debian mount my camera automagically when i plug it into usb? i'm using xfce, is there some gnome magic i need to start explicitly? |
| 15:50.07 | somiaj | berndj-blackout: this might depend on the camera, not all cameras use usb mass storage to mount the sdcard in them and need some speical tool to pull off the data |
| 15:50.56 | berndj-blackout | somiaj, i do know it used to work when i was using ubuntu; gphoto2 seemed to have something to do with it - it mounted it in $HOME/.gvfs/gphoto2-somethingsomething |
| 15:51.34 | SuperNull | Hey guys, im about to make 7 identical debian servers..i would love to clone the drives for simplicity but i know i have had mac address problems previously.. is there an easy way to prevent that/fix that? |
| 15:51.40 | berndj-blackout | i *could* remove the sdcard and try mount that using my laptops card reader, but i prefer the convenience of the usb way |
| 15:52.03 | babilen | dpkg: tell Paradisee about install kde |
| 15:52.06 | Paradisee | somiaj: can't be a driver problem? |
| 15:53.39 | somiaj | Paradisee: I'm unsure what the problem would be, and since you seem to prefer kde, lets get kde installed then try to figure out why it didn't load |
| 15:53.40 | Paradisee | babilen: it should anyway install a desktop env |
| 15:54.06 | somiaj | Paradisee: for the most part xorg should come up on almost any hardware, it would just fallback to vesa if it can't detect any better drivers. |
| 15:54.06 | Paradisee | somiaj: i have the same problem with others distro |
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| 15:55.21 | somiaj | berndj-blackout: yes gphoto2, I didn't realize it mounted things, I thought it used some special camera transfer protocolol to get info from cameras, personally I prefer to get an sdcard reader and use that. |
| 15:55.42 | stormy3 | somiaj: cheers for that, sort of but thats runnign server i just want client, but come up with a plan! it's called go home :D |
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| 15:56.03 | somiaj | Paradisee: again as I said, since you prefer kde, lets install that before I start to ask for your Xorg.0.log and try to debug what the issue is. |
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| 15:56.23 | somiaj | Paradisee: again I'm unsure what you installed during the install process, you said you like kde so I went with that. |
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| 15:57.30 | somiaj | berndj-blackout: you will get way more speed with the sdcard reader in your laptop (usb sucks for file transfer, though I guess I haven't played with usb3 much) |
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| 15:58.35 | somiaj | berndj-blackout: anyways if it just a standard massstorage device I think the automounter should just mount it, if you require gphoto2, get it working manually with gphoto2. Unsure what sort of udev rules you would need to get that to be automatic. |
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| 16:00.16 | berndj-blackout | somiaj, well i just used the sdcard reader, that seems to work. maybe i can re-habituate to it (and yes, it's already faster, previously just chdir'ing into one of the subdirectories would take a minute) |
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| 16:02.45 | berndj-blackout | oh yeah, MUCH faster :) i think i can re-habituate. just hope the card sockets are okay for ~ hundreds of insert/remove cycles |
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| 16:04.22 | Soelen | hello everyone, I am right now in the process to install debian, first time, trying to do RAID 1, but as you might tell I have no clue what I'm doing! |
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| 16:04.55 | Soelen | Right now I have to select 2 partitions, what exactly 2? |
| 16:05.01 | Soelen | and what do I need to select? |
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| 16:05.09 | Soelen | why exactly 2* |
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| 16:07.20 | Paradisee | somiaj: still installing |
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| 16:08.36 | veryape | soelen: did you check the debian administrators handbook? http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/advanced-administration.html#sect.raid-and-lvm |
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| 16:09.23 | somiaj | Paradisee: no problem, I'll be around for a while. |
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| 16:10.40 | Soelen | veryape: not at all! |
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| 16:12.35 | Doyle | Guys, when setting up OpenVPN, is it normal for it to use x.x.x.1 and x.x.x.254 for the dest/src ips? |
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| 16:14.45 | petn-randall | Doyle: Those are just as good as any other set of IPs. |
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| 16:20.09 | Paradisee | somiaj: i got a black screen :O |
| 16:20.53 | Paradisee | was in stanby lol |
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| 16:21.18 | dokma | I've plugged my USB printer into a router. Is there any way to check from Debian that this printer is available? |
| 16:21.41 | dokma | the router is Siemens Gigaset SX763 and the printer is HP DeskJet D1560 |
| 16:21.44 | Paradisee | lspci i think |
| 16:22.03 | dokma | Paradisee, that doesn't sound right |
| 16:22.17 | dokma | the printer is USB and not locally but plugged into the router |
| 16:22.45 | Brigo | dokma, find the port it use and try to reach it using nmap or tcptraceroute. |
| 16:23.11 | dokma | Brigo, I might scan the router for open ports... |
| 16:24.21 | Brigo | dokma, you need the printer's ip |
| 16:24.30 | Brigo | and scan that ip. |
| 16:24.35 | dokma | Brigo, the printer is plugged into the router |
| 16:24.40 | dokma | it does not have it's own ip |
| 16:24.47 | dokma | the router is running a print server |
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| 16:25.07 | somiaj | Paradisee: console screen blanking, probabaly isn't standby, but I usually just hit 'shift' to pull it out of it |
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| 16:25.44 | somiaj | dokma: the web based CUPS config tool might be able to see it |
| 16:25.47 | Paradisee | still installing gh |
| 16:25.51 | somiaj | dokma: or tell it what it's ip is |
| 16:26.31 | dokma | somiaj, CUPS can't find anything when I got to Find new printers under Administration |
| 16:26.55 | dokma | somiaj, and when I go to Add Printer I don't know all the needed info |
| 16:27.43 | somiaj | dokma: Should be able to give it the printers ip and the printer type. |
| 16:28.02 | dokma | there's a huge list |
| 16:28.06 | dokma | have no clue what is right |
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| 16:29.16 | somiaj | dokma: well what printer do you have? |
| 16:29.30 | dokma | HP DeskJet D1560 |
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| 16:29.42 | dokma | connected to the router Siemens Gigaset SX763 |
| 16:29.46 | dokma | that is running a print server |
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| 16:31.36 | somiaj | I would just start playing around, I did forget there were lots of options to configure in CUPS, but that is what I did for my network printers |
| 16:31.42 | jhutchins | dokma: Go to the router's config webpage and make sure it sees the printer and is sharing it. That might give you the URL you need. |
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| 16:32.16 | jhutchins | dokma: They usually default to something like <ip>/lpr |
| 16:32.56 | dokma | jhutchins, is there anything that could verify for me that there is a printer at <ip>/lpr ?? |
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| 16:33.06 | dokma | some command line tool or something... |
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| 16:34.12 | dokma | jhutchins, somiaj: this is what I see: http://david.evorion.hr/sx763.png |
| 16:34.40 | dokma | so I know it is on the same address as the router |
| 16:34.47 | dokma | I've read somewhere that is normal |
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| 16:36.34 | dokma | jhutchins, somiaj: and this is where I'm stuck: http://david.evorion.hr/addprinter.png |
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| 16:37.00 | KaaK | I've got a misbehaving USB network device attached to a very remote (1+ hour drive). Is there any way to logically 'unplug' and 'plugin' this USB device at the kernel level? |
| 16:37.30 | petn-randall | KaaK: You can unload the module and load it again. That sometimes helps. |
| 16:37.32 | KaaK | The physically reset of the device (or full reset of the host) appear to get the NIC back into an operating state |
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| 16:38.41 | KaaK | petn-randall, any advice for a kernel with the USB system compiled in? This is a bit of an inherited mess that I am phasing out |
| 16:38.44 | Paradisee | somiaj: ive done |
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| 16:40.23 | mesp | Hi, i'm trying to compile my own kernel according to https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage but I always get "/usr/src/linux-3.2.57 is not clean, please run 'make mrproper'" when trying to start the build process via: "fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch_amd64" |
| 16:40.28 | petn-randall | KaaK: That might help? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/6782/commands-to-simulate-removing-and-re-inserting-a-usb-peripheral |
| 16:40.44 | KaaK | thanks! |
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| 16:41.48 | somiaj | Paradisee: at this moment, you could try and run 'startx' |
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| 16:45.50 | Paradisee | somiaj: it works :O |
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| 16:56.45 | Paradisee | somiaj: how to fix the wifi now? |
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| 17:00.59 | average | Paradisee: what works? |
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| 17:01.03 | diginet | is there any way to get a more recent version of gcc than 4.6 in wheezy? |
| 17:01.19 | average | diginet: backports perhaps ? or building one yourself? |
| 17:01.29 | diginet | average: hmm |
| 17:01.36 | average | Paradisee: I use wicd for wifi in general if that helps.. |
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| 17:05.17 | Paradisee | average: i dont even know what are you talking about |
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| 17:09.55 | me-1 | hiii when is next debian stable release and what would be its name..? |
| 17:10.05 | abrotman | no one knows |
| 17:10.07 | abrotman | and Jessie |
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| 17:10.57 | somiaj | Paradisee: what wifi card do you have? lscpi, get me the chipset or pciid |
| 17:11.24 | me-1 | abrotman, any idea ..and what if we are out names from toy story |
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| 17:11.39 | abrotman | me-1: any idea about what? And there are plenty of names left |
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| 17:12.32 | me-1 | abrotman, next debian release time . and why its release cycle is so slow |
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| 17:12.50 | zenpac | Is there a channel for debian testing/ |
| 17:12.51 | zenpac | ? |
| 17:12.55 | abrotman | zenpac: /topic |
| 17:13.09 | abrotman | me-1: it's not slow, it's thorough .. if you don't like the release times for Debian, please use another distro |
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| 17:13.58 | Paradisee | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/99082 |
| 17:14.05 | cesurasean | how would i go about searching every file on my system for these lines "passdb pam"? |
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| 17:14.29 | sysroot000 | hey, is there a command in bash to select the network interface to go through for the specific shell session ? |
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| 17:14.43 | me-1 | abrotman, I agree , thats why its so stable . I needed some info for my assignment btw |
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| 17:15.11 | abrotman | me-1: so ask the question you need to ask, not accuse the project of being slow when you don't understand why it works that way |
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| 17:16.23 | me-1 | abrotman, I did nto accuse I was just curious :) anyways thank you for the info |
| 17:17.25 | me-1 | what is the diffrence between Debian rolling and testing |
| 17:17.46 | somiaj | Paradisee: looks like your wifi card isn't supported by default in wheezy |
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| 17:18.11 | somiaj | ,pciid 10ec:8179 |
| 17:18.12 | judd | [10ec:8179] is 'RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with no known kernel module in wheezy but has kernel module 'rtl8188ee' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8179 |
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| 17:18.47 | somiaj | Paradisee: what this means is you will have to get the 3.13 kernel and firmware-realtek from wheezy-backports. |
| 17:18.48 | Paradisee | what can i do |
| 17:18.56 | somiaj | !tell Paradisee about wheezy backports |
| 17:19.12 | Paradisee | i want to use the testing version, non the stable one |
| 17:19.29 | somiaj | Paradisee: are you running testing or stable? |
| 17:19.35 | somiaj | Paradisee: uname -a please. |
| 17:19.37 | Paradisee | stable actually |
| 17:19.51 | somiaj | Paradisee: then we need to get you the backported kernel (it comes from testing) |
| 17:19.54 | sysroot000 | how can i specify an interface that will be used on a specific bash window for the commands i enter, for example bash window x goes throught eth0 and bash window y goes through wlan0 |
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| 17:20.05 | somiaj | Paradisee: use that factoid I sent you to add a wheezy-backport deb line to your sources.list |
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| 17:20.42 | m_pahlevanzadeh | i have apt 1.0.3 and i use apt-get update , apt itself get deb files, my /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic contains: APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "0"; |
| 17:20.43 | m_pahlevanzadeh | APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages "0"; |
| 17:20.43 | m_pahlevanzadeh | APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0"; |
| 17:20.43 | m_pahlevanzadeh | APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "0"; |
| 17:20.43 | m_pahlevanzadeh | How can i disable auto upgrade ? |
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| 17:21.13 | jelly-home | LordDeath: support is available starting with upstream 2.11 version. You would have to backport 2.11 from testing or unstable. |
| 17:21.21 | jelly-home | ,v postfix |
| 17:21.22 | judd | Package: postfix on i386 -- squeeze: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.9.3-2.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.9.6-2; wheezy-backports: 2.11.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.11.0-1+b1; sid: 2.11.0-1+b1 |
| 17:21.57 | Paradisee | somiaj: so i have to change a line into sources.list? |
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| 17:22.38 | jelly-home | LordDeath: oh... there's a backport in wheezy-backports already. Read "/msg dpkg bdo" and "/msg dpkg wheezy backports" |
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| 17:23.39 | somiaj | Paradisee: you have to add a line, (keep the other ones you ahve teh same) |
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| 17:26.53 | Paradisee | somiaj: done then? |
| 17:27.18 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 17:27.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.14-trunk-686-pae (3.14.1-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.2-1); jessie: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.10-1); wheezy-backports: 3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.13.10-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.57-3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.54-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze5) |
| 17:28.05 | somiaj | Paradisee: can I get the output of 'uname -r' |
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| 17:28.36 | m_pahlevanzadeh | i have the http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/1D7L /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic , and apt 1.0.3 Now i want to disable auto upgrade , how i do it? |
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| 17:28.56 | abrotman | don't run it ? |
| 17:29.13 | Paradisee | 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 17:29.59 | somiaj | Paradisee: after you run apt-get update, run 'apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae' |
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| 17:31.26 | kbm31 | hi. i added a line to sources.list and am getting the NO_PUBKEY error. i am looking online and there seem to be many different ways to add this key. but which one is recommended here? |
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| 17:31.42 | somiaj | kbm31: what line did you add to your sources.list? |
| 17:31.47 | Paradisee | are those the firmware for the wifi? |
| 17:31.48 | alesan | hi I am dealing with some kernel customization for my platform, now I see a huge number of interrupts (~800) when the older version had 15 per second or so |
| 17:32.10 | alesan | any advice where to go and look for clues? |
| 17:32.19 | somiaj | Paradisee: no this is the new kerenel, I was gong to get you botted on the new kernel first (the wheezy kernel didn't support yoru wifi so I am getting you on abackport kernel) |
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| 17:32.37 | stark` | kbm31: sudo apt-key add file.pub |
| 17:32.40 | kbm31 | somiaj: does it matter? it's giving me the key that i need to allow i just need to know how to do it |
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| 17:33.03 | somiaj | kbm31: yes it does, it would be pointeless to help if you are adding a source which will damage or break your debain install. |
| 17:33.10 | Paradisee | somiaj: done |
| 17:33.13 | stark` | you have to be in the directory where the file is |
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| 17:33.33 | somiaj | Paradisee: you are going to have to reboot and get on the new kernel, then we'll add non-free to your sources and install the firmware. |
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| 17:33.54 | kbm31 | somiaj: it won't. it's for a python package not in debian repos |
| 17:34.03 | pinumbernumber | I upgraded stable straight to unstable, forgetting that I was supposed to go to testing first. Everything seems fine (only grub needed fixing); might I have broken something? |
| 17:34.07 | Paradisee | rebooting |
| 17:34.26 | somiaj | pinumbernumber: that is fine, you don't need to upgrade though testing |
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| 17:34.55 | pinumbernumber | somiaj: oh okay. why do all the tutorials tell me to? |
| 17:35.07 | somiaj | pinumbernumber: what tutorial? |
| 17:35.12 | Paradisee | somiaj: running the new kernel |
| 17:35.15 | pinumbernumber | lemme google |
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| 17:35.29 | Paradisee | done |
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| 17:36.02 | somiaj | pinumbernumber: unstable and testing are actually fairly close and the packages put into sid are configured to assume upgrading from stable (since they will filter into testing and have to be able to be upgraded from stable) |
| 17:36.03 | pinumbernumber | somiaj: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#How_do_I_install_Unstable.3F |
| 17:36.22 | pinumbernumber | "(If you've currently got an installation of stable, then you should upgrade to testing first and then to unstable.)" |
| 17:37.08 | somiaj | hmm, you have less chance of running across an upgrade bug cause testing may have less of those than sid, but I don't see any major reason you can't go directly to unstable, that is what I have always done |
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| 17:37.21 | pinumbernumber | somiaj: okay, good to hear, thanks |
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| 17:37.33 | somiaj | Paradisee: okay, now need to add some non-free sources to get the firmware. but first 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' do you see a line complaining about missing firmware? |
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| 17:38.59 | flacs | is there an easy way to get a package with libav 9 headers on debian sid now that libavcodec-dev is version 10? |
| 17:39.04 | Paradisee | http://paste.debian.net/99091 |
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| 17:39.54 | somiaj | pinumbernumber: and again, packages in testing come though unstable first, so the packages should be designed (provided they don't have any bugs) to be upgraded directly from stable since the that is the end result we want once the packages filter into testing and testing gets frozen then becomes stable. So I think that advise is just since it is sitll testing/unstable you may not find as many bugs. |
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| 17:40.19 | flacs | pinumbernumber: oh, you're already in here :) |
| 17:40.23 | skribblezatcha | judd, i just upgraded my kernel about 20mins ago.:) so its pretty neat to see you post the kernels there. |
| 17:40.24 | judd | No package named 'just' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 17:40.40 | somiaj | Paradisee: bingo, see lines 4-6, that is your wifi card, it is now loading it just is missing firmware, so lets fix that |
| 17:41.09 | somiaj | Paradisee: modify your sources.list one more time, you need to appedn 'contrib non-free' to the end of at least the wheezy-backports line (others is optional if you want non-free software enabled) |
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| 17:41.49 | somiaj | Paradisee: so where you see 'deb foo bar main' in your sources.list, turn it to 'deb foo bar main contrib non-free' i.e. apeend those two words to at least your wheezy-backports line |
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| 17:41.57 | skribblezatcha | right, i feel you judd. |
| 17:42.22 | somiaj | skribblezatcha: judd is a bot |
| 17:42.29 | somiaj | Paradisee: did your machine boot into xorg just fine now? |
| 17:42.40 | skribblezatcha | lol o, thanks somiaj. |
| 17:42.46 | tdn | Because of heartbleed, I should regenerate all my ssh and ssl keys, right? So how do I do this on debian? |
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| 17:43.04 | Paradisee | done |
| 17:43.13 | Paradisee | somiaj: you mean, if im on the Desktop? |
| 17:43.23 | somiaj | Paradisee: apt-get update && apt-get -t wheezy-backports install firmware-realtek |
| 17:43.32 | tdn | Do I need to both generate new SSH pub/private keys that are used to login? Or only server host keys? |
| 17:43.35 | somiaj | Paradisee: yes, and if it loaded automatically (you didn't have to run startx) |
| 17:43.41 | Paradisee | yeo |
| 17:43.42 | Paradisee | p |
| 17:43.46 | somiaj | Paradisee: good (: |
| 17:44.37 | Paradisee | done |
| 17:44.59 | somiaj | Paradisee: now you need to reload your wifi module, I'd say just cause I'm being lazy, reboot your machine and your wifi should be working. |
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| 17:45.31 | Paradisee | rebooting |
| 17:45.55 | Paradisee | which kernerl should i run? |
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| 17:46.44 | somiaj | Paradisee: the wheezy backports 3.13 kernel, the 3.2 kernel will not support your wifi card |
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| 17:47.08 | Paradisee | is it a bad thing to use an old kernel? |
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| 17:49.07 | somiaj | Paradisee: Do you want your wifi to work? If not then use the old kernel. (: |
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| 17:49.49 | somiaj | Paradisee: using the backport kernel should be just fine. |
| 17:49.50 | Paradisee | you mean: do you want your wifi to work? if not then use a new kernel :) |
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| 17:50.16 | somiaj | Paradisee: no I mean your wifi will only work with the 3.13 kernel NOT the 3.2 kernel. I would just ues the 3.13 kernel if i were you |
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| 17:50.59 | Paradisee | cant be fixed ? |
| 17:51.11 | Paradisee | i could open a ticket for it |
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| 17:52.16 | somiaj | Paradisee: the 3.2 kernel just dose not have the drivers for that wifi card. Some modules get backported into the 3.2 kernel, but in this case I wouldn't hold my breath and just use the 3.13 kernel. |
| 17:52.46 | Paradisee | what if i want to use a testing version now? |
| 17:52.54 | Paradisee | cus the stable is pretty old |
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| 17:53.25 | somiaj | Paradisee: I would stick with stable, as it will be stable and less bugs. |
| 17:53.27 | skypers | hi |
| 17:53.31 | Artemis3 | Paradisee, update the kernel from backports first |
| 17:53.46 | somiaj | Paradisee: that kernel I had you install was from testing (just backported to stable) |
| 17:54.01 | skypers | I’m looking for the best way to turn xset r rate 300 40 persistent |
| 17:54.04 | somiaj | Paradisee: you can install other software from wheezy-backports that is newer than the stable version but designed to run on your core stable system. |
| 17:54.11 | somiaj | Artemis3: he has the newest kernel from backports already |
| 17:54.16 | skypers | I know I can put that in a .xinitrc or that kind of stuff |
| 17:54.17 | Artemis3 | still doesnt work? |
| 17:54.19 | skypers | but what’s the best way? |
| 17:54.31 | somiaj | Artemis3: no, he is just courious now, I belive he got his wifi working |
| 17:54.35 | Paradisee | well, thanks for the help somiaj, really |
| 17:54.38 | somiaj | Paradisee: your wifi is now working after the reboot? |
| 17:54.43 | Paradisee | yep |
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| 17:55.02 | Paradisee | i hope to do not broke nothing :D |
| 17:55.06 | Artemis3 | good, stay with stable. |
| 17:55.08 | somiaj | Paradisee: again I would avoid testing software. Now if there is something you want to be newer than is in stable, search for it in wheezy-backports, and then install it. (: |
| 17:55.20 | somiaj | Paradisee: nothing should have, you should be golden. |
| 17:55.25 | LordDeath | jelly-home: thx :) |
| 17:55.28 | Artemis3 | you can upgrade all things into backports version (ie Libreoffice) |
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| 17:55.40 | Paradisee | so if i want so search something what should i type |
| 17:55.50 | Paradisee | apt-cache search wheez... |
| 17:55.59 | skypers | no one for the xset r rate? |
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| 17:56.05 | Paradisee | apt-cache search wheezy-backports packetname? |
| 17:56.13 | skypers | maybe in some kind of /etc/X11 directories? |
| 17:56.15 | Artemis3 | you can even do apt-get -t wheezy-backports upgrade :) |
| 17:56.24 | somiaj | Paradisee: the package name would be the same, just have to see if there is a version in wheezy backports. 'apt-cache show packname' will show you info on the package. Check to see if one of them come from wheezy backports |
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| 17:56.38 | Artemis3 | which i often do to upgrade everything into backports version |
| 17:56.40 | somiaj | Artemis3: thought that is usually considered a bad idea as it is not tested to be fully upgraded too. |
| 17:56.45 | Artemis3 | well i think dist-upgrade works too |
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| 17:57.03 | somiaj | Paradisee: I personally suggest pick and choose the wheezy-backports software you need. |
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| 17:57.26 | Artemis3 | well ymmv, been fine in my use cases |
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| 17:58.36 | Artemis3 | mix and pinning seems to hurt more and i know some people love doing that (ie stable+testing and such, which i hate) |
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| 17:59.03 | Paradisee | somiaj: should i avoid apt-get install |
| 17:59.07 | somiaj | I also see people dig them selves holes they can't get out of with doing that. (: |
| 17:59.21 | somiaj | Paradisee: no, wheezy-backports is pinned lower and it will never install a wheezy-backports package by default |
| 17:59.27 | Artemis3 | well upgrade what you need is ok |
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| 17:59.36 | somiaj | Paradisee: you have to do apt-get -t wheezy-backports packname to tell apt it is okay to use wheezy backports |
| 17:59.38 | Artemis3 | in this case kernel for hardware enablement is a must |
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| 18:00.03 | somiaj | yup, kernel is the major thing I suggest people get form wheezy backports |
| 18:00.08 | Artemis3 | i also have an usb dongle wifi thingie that needs kernel 3.9 or newer so yes |
| 18:00.14 | somiaj | also don't ever expect to see major DE's in backports. |
| 18:00.21 | bbingo | Hiya I'm on Wheezy and fuse is bust [ 74.166038] fuse: Unknown symbol nosteal_pipe_buf_ops (err 0) |
| 18:01.24 | curver | Is anyone free to answer some questions about starting a debian derivative in a 1-to-1 chat? |
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| 18:04.50 | Soelen | :q |
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| 18:06.06 | Paradisee | somiaj: thanks again, im going home :) |
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| 18:10.43 | kbm31 | does anyone know why a newer thunar hasn't been backported? seems like a filemanager that brings some features most people using the old version in stable want would have been backported by now. i don't like apt-pinning |
| 18:11.11 | kbm31 | spacefm was backported and that wasn't even packaged by debian until a few months ago |
| 18:11.50 | kbm31 | not to mention it's no longer being developed |
| 18:12.07 | somiaj | it is dependent on the matainer of the package |
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| 18:14.19 | kbm31 | can we e-mail them and request that they backport it? the version in stable is 3 years old and really showing its age |
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| 18:14.39 | wols | why don't you backport it yourself? |
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| 18:15.34 | Paradisee | back |
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| 18:15.51 | Paradisee | somiaj: should i remove the new kernel? |
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| 18:16.22 | kbm31 | you ask that question like you know my level of competence |
| 18:16.49 | somiaj | Paradisee: why would you want to remove the new kernel which allows your wifi to work? |
| 18:17.00 | wols | generally, Desktop Environments are never backported: it's a huge hassle |
| 18:17.17 | Paradisee | not that one, the other one |
| 18:17.21 | wols | what was the dependency check command for judd again? |
| 18:18.08 | Paradisee | on the screen boot, there are 2 kernel |
| 18:18.11 | kbm31 | do you need to backport the entire desktop environment just to backport thunar? i have thunar even though i don't use xfce, so it can't depend on it |
| 18:18.29 | wols | kbm31: probably not, but if it were in backports they would do it that way |
| 18:18.44 | wols | Paradisee: if the new one works fine, sure you can |
| 18:18.53 | Nik05 | wols was it judd? |
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| 18:19.51 | zykotick9 | doesn't look good, on the backporting thunar "Backporting package thunar in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libexo-1-dev (>= 0.10.0), libxfce4util-dev (>= 4.10.0), libxfce4ui-1-dev..." |
| 18:19.54 | Paradisee | how can i? |
| 18:19.54 | kbm31 | guess i'll just apt-pin it |
| 18:20.06 | wols | Nik05: it was for judd, yes |
| 18:20.38 | wols | zykotick9: what is the command again, please? |
| 18:20.54 | wols | Paradisee: you remove a kernel package like any other package with apt-get remove or purge |
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| 18:21.13 | zykotick9 | wols: i'm not sure... either "checkbackport foo" or "chackbackports foo", don't know which actually answered |
| 18:21.33 | wols | thanks |
| 18:21.43 | Paradisee | is that possible to use the /home directory, shared with another unix distro? |
| 18:21.48 | zykotick9 | that's "checkbackports foo" ignore the typo, but notice the s |
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| 18:22.09 | wols | thinks both bots should simply accept a "help" command where they point to a nice website with all the commands |
| 18:22.43 | wols | Paradisee: yes. can of course create problems if the two distros have different config file formats. but it's been done before |
| 18:23.26 | Paradisee | i want to install ubuntu |
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| 18:23.42 | Paradisee | im not really sure running on debian anymore :/ |
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| 18:24.58 | Cpuroast | hmm |
| 18:25.02 | Cpuroast | 3.2.57-3 to 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 |
| 18:25.11 | Cpuroast | super minor update |
| 18:25.12 | Cpuroast | I guess |
| 18:26.34 | wols | Cpuroast: are you standing in the way of progress and blocking it? |
| 18:26.41 | Cpuroast | no |
| 18:26.59 | Cpuroast | couldn't even see it in the package changelog |
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| 18:34.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi |
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| 18:39.28 | curver | I want to create a debian derivative: add/remove packages, change name/logos, pre-configure desktop environment/programs, ect. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
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| 18:41.34 | somiaj | Paradisee: if you don't think you need the 3.2 kernel as a backup (you probabaly wont) you can remove it |
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| 18:42.21 | mtn | curver: search engines come to mind |
| 18:42.58 | curver | mtn: I've been searching for a while and found nothing that helps with what I want to attempt. |
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| 18:52.11 | jkt | hi folks; I'm using OBS for building DEB packages, and my app would like to have access to the package version during build for embedding into the binary itself (the reason is that the OBS helper creates a fake tarball, and this tarball has a version number which includes git revision) |
| 18:52.24 | jkt | can I somehow access this version from inside my debian.rules? |
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| 18:55.29 | dondelelcaro | jkt: is the version number not present inside of the tarball? |
| 18:55.36 | average | jkt: what is OBS? is there a compeling reason for you not to use the official Debian toolchain for building Debian packages ? |
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| 18:56.08 | dondelelcaro | jkt: it seems that it would be difficult to figure out which tarball corresponded to an unpacked tree if it wasn't present inside of the tree |
| 18:56.11 | jkt | average: https://build.opensuse.org/ , and AFAIK it does use Debian toolchain for building debs |
| 18:56.27 | average | ah I see, I take that back then |
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| 18:59.20 | average | jkt: but correct me if I'm wrong, however I see OBS adding unnecessary complexity here. I'd just go for regular Debian packaging not involving another layer .. |
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| 19:00.04 | average | jkt: in relation to your Git revision, you can get your latest Git SHA1 like this git log --pretty="%H" | head -1 |
| 19:00.14 | average | (there may be an easier way that I'm not aware of) |
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| 19:02.40 | average | and, if I understood correctly, you also want the package version. here's a quick oneliner to get that |
| 19:02.47 | average | perl -pne '($_)=/^Standards-Version: (.*)$/;' debian/control |
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| 19:03.54 | average | jkt: You may also be interested in reading about git-buildpackage and the setup required in order to use it. |
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| 19:05.40 | jkt | sorry, phone calls come at the most inconveient time |
| 19:06.04 | jkt | average: I'm not a debian user myself, so not having to worry about maintaining a ton of build machines myself is the benefit which OBS gives here |
| 19:06.16 | jkt | average: this is about two things, first is setting the actual package name, which is already handled by the OBS |
| 19:06.45 | jkt | average: the second one is that the app in question wants to "know" its version so that it can e.g. include it in the about box, and in the User-Agent string it sends |
| 19:07.48 | jkt | average: my build env is set so that it extracts this stuff from inside the git repo if available, but it turns out that the OBS works by converting a git checkout into a plain tarball, and I cannot force it to run a shell script at that point in order to save that version into a file somewhere |
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| 19:07.58 | average | jkt: I see. Well, you can have a constant somewhere, for example in some version.h file like this #define VERSION "DEV" |
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| 19:08.32 | jkt | average: yes, that already works. What I would like to have is the *exact* git revision to be available in there |
| 19:08.50 | jkt | average: because the OBS already knows that an includes that in the pkg version, I do this in my .spec file: echo %{version} | sed 's/\.git\.\([0-9]\)\+\./-obs-/' > src/trojita-version |
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| 19:09.14 | jkt | average: so I'm essentially asking for an equivalent of %{version} to be used in debian.rules |
| 19:10.04 | jkt | average: I've alreay tried looking at the output of `env`, but it seems that there's no shell variable for that |
| 19:10.30 | average | and, whenever the build happens use this oneliner to replace it with the latest Git SHA1 perl -pi -e '$s=`git log --pretty=\"%H\" | head -1`; chomp $s; s/^#define VERSION.*$/#define VERSION "$s"/;' /tmp/version.h |
| 19:10.55 | dondelelcaro | jkt: how is %{version} populated, though? |
| 19:10.59 | average | by /tmp/version.h I meant, in whatever header you keep the macro with the VERSION |
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| 19:11.23 | jkt | dondelelcaro: by OBS magic |
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| 19:11.35 | dondelelcaro | jkt: the version of the debian package is encoded in debian/changelog, and is available using dpkg-parsechangelog |
| 19:12.03 | dondelelcaro | jkt: so it sounds like you just need to figure out how to access that using whatever OBS magick is required |
| 19:12.13 | jkt | dondelelcaro: it essentially creates a tarball something-myversion, and rewrites the .spec template so that it includes a regular line Version: ..., and the rpmbuild macros make that available in ${version} |
| 19:12.18 | jkt | %{version} of course |
| 19:12.35 | dondelelcaro | jkt: that sounds like you should just parse the spec, then |
| 19:12.35 | jkt | average: as I said, the OBS does *not* pack the .git directory, so I cannot run git |
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| 19:12.46 | dondelelcaro | jkt: or if it actually does Debian stuff, it should write a new changelog entry |
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| 19:13.03 | dondelelcaro | jkt: after the build, what is the Debian package version? |
| 19:13.20 | svip | How do I upagrade from Squeeze? Apparently MySQL server 5.5 is gone from the repo, and it won't allow me to install 5.6, because it depends on a package version that doesn't exist. |
| 19:13.26 | A|an | When trying to install new software and you're prompted to insert the installation disc, how can you redirect to one of the ftp mirrors? |
| 19:13.29 | svip | So I suspect an upgrade might be in order. |
| 19:13.35 | jkt | danecando: I get a trojita-nightly_0.4.1.git.1399916790.52a716f_i386.deb , among other things |
| 19:13.47 | A|an | Ex. edia change: please insert the disc labeled |
| 19:13.47 | A|an | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.47 | A|an | in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter |
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| 19:14.04 | dondelelcaro | jkt: ok, so it is writing a debian/changelog entry |
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| 19:14.06 | A|an | how can I simply go to an FTP mirror? |
| 19:14.19 | nell | hey I installed a program from git that is giving me issues when installing from the repo |
| 19:14.22 | nell | i wanna uninstall it |
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| 19:14.29 | nell | how do i do that though? |
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| 19:14.50 | dondelelcaro | jkt: so just dpkg-parsechangelog -Sversion |
| 19:14.59 | jkt | dondelelcaro: thanks, I'll give it a try |
| 19:15.02 | ted20 | nell: check make uninstall |
| 19:15.07 | dondelelcaro | A|an: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cdrom line |
| 19:15.12 | dondelelcaro | A|an: and then rerun apt-get update; |
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| 19:15.26 | A|an | thanks |
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| 19:16.29 | dondelelcaro | !tell svip -about squeeze->wheezy |
| 19:16.39 | nell | check make uninstall? |
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| 19:16.44 | nell | whats the syntax |
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| 19:17.32 | ted20 | nell: do you want uninstall it? |
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| 19:18.58 | nell | yeah ted20 |
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| 19:20.01 | ted20 | nell: So, make uninstall from root should work |
| 19:20.28 | nell | make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. |
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| 19:21.04 | ted20 | What it's? |
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| 19:21.17 | nell | ? |
| 19:21.23 | ted20 | What's name your program |
| 19:21.27 | nell | tomb |
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| 19:23.37 | jkt | dondelelcaro: on my Ubuntu VM, the -S is supported, but it seems that it fails on Debian 7 |
| 19:24.46 | ted20 | nell: It's script? |
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| 19:25.09 | nell | no |
| 19:25.24 | nell | http://tomb.dyne.org/literate/ |
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| 19:25.33 | dondelelcaro | jkt: right; it's only dpkg > 1.17.0; so dpkg-parsechangelog|awk '/Version:/{print $2}' |
| 19:26.16 | jkt | dondelelcaro: yup, I'm sedding it anyway |
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| 19:26.52 | ted20 | nell: I see "Tomb is a simple shell script, you can just download the source |
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| 19:31.12 | dondelelcaro | riceandbeans: please ask questions in the channel; no, Debian won't be droping 32 bit support in the forseable future |
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| 19:33.57 | bumbar | i'd like to have a python script available to all users, should i put it in /bin? |
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| 19:35.53 | wols | /usr/local/bin ? |
| 19:35.54 | flacs | bumbar: /usr/local/bin |
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| 19:37.35 | fossterer | Hi! Can someone point me to an IRC channel for 'Packaging'? |
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| 19:39.17 | abrotman | fossterer: for Debian? or something else? |
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| 19:39.25 | fossterer | For Debian |
| 19:39.37 | abrotman | fossterer: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
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| 19:40.58 | trampel | dumb package size question: "apt-get install ghc".."Need to get 26.2 MB of archives." ok but: "After this operation, 295 MB of additional disk space will be used." where does the factor of >10 come from? |
| 19:41.06 | fossterer | irc.oftc.net liss so many servers but none of them is working |
| 19:41.22 | fossterer | *lists so many |
| 19:41.47 | flacs | i can assure you they are |
| 19:42.39 | thingamabob | hi, i get at updating the kernel the following error, what can i da? cannot copy extracted data for './lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/net/dccp/dccp.ko' to '/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/net/dccp/dccp.ko.dpkg-new' |
| 19:43.02 | jelly-home | thingamabob: out of space in / filesystem? |
| 19:43.43 | thingamabob | yes 64mb available |
| 19:44.02 | fossterer | Reqached there. Thank you! |
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| 19:47.21 | mns | anyone know of a good colour laser printer that is linux compatible ? |
| 19:48.17 | joltcan | mns: we have a HP LJ300-400 at work who seems to work fine |
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| 19:48.32 | ParaDebian | somiaj: i can't find "python3+" tips ? |
| 19:48.56 | somiaj | ,v python3 |
| 19:48.58 | judd | Package: python3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.3.4-1; sid: 3.3.4-1; experimental: 3.4~rc1-1 |
| 19:49.08 | ParaDebian | on my system i mean |
| 19:49.17 | somiaj | do you have the python3 package installed? |
| 19:49.26 | ParaDebian | nope |
| 19:49.42 | somiaj | have you tried to apt-get install python3 |
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| 19:50.21 | mns | joltcan: thanks. I'll look at that one. |
| 19:50.29 | Paradiseee | there's no python3.4 |
| 19:50.55 | somiaj | Paradiseee: nope, the version of python 3 in wheezy is 3.2. |
| 19:51.05 | somiaj | but it is still python 3 |
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| 19:51.19 | Paradiseee | i got py3.4 on a vm with debian |
| 19:51.49 | somiaj | there is a package in experimential, but you do not want to install that on stable. |
| 19:51.58 | Paradiseee | why not |
| 19:52.15 | somiaj | because experiemental packages are not built for debian stable, they are built against debian sid (unstable) |
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| 19:52.37 | somiaj | what is it you need in python 3.4 that is not in python 3.2 besides a bigger number? |
| 19:52.47 | Paradiseee | infact i want to switch to testing |
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| 19:53.09 | somiaj | I personally would not suggest you switch to testing, you should learn debain and how it works better before doing that |
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| 19:53.29 | Paradiseee | i already play with testing on vm |
| 19:53.30 | somiaj | and experiemental packages are designed for sid (not testing) so I woudln't install it in testing either. |
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| 19:54.03 | somiaj | its not that testing won't work, it is that you will run across bugs that break your system. My experience is your over understanding of how debian works needs improvement before you'll have the skills to fix your system when it breaks. |
| 19:54.43 | Paradiseee | i know but sid is more problematic than the jessied |
| 19:54.48 | Paradiseee | dont you think? |
| 19:54.58 | Paradiseee | and personally id prefer to have something work |
| 19:54.58 | Auriga | Hi, a problem I've seen before & somehow just ignored, but I'm upgrading the system, Debian 7, & when I hit upgrade, the terminal says "resolving dependencies, OPEN 66k, CLOSED ??k... Can someone shed some light on this please? |
| 19:55.05 | somiaj | they each have their own problems and issues. I run sid myself, but I also know how to fix things and wait when bugs are found. |
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| 19:55.11 | Paradiseee | and new packages also |
| 19:55.46 | somiaj | Paradiseee: testing can break and unless you know how debian works can be a pain to fix. But lets go back to your question |
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| 19:55.56 | somiaj | Paradiseee: what do you need that is in python 3.4 that is not in python 3.2? |
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| 19:56.09 | Paradiseee | there's nothing new in py3.4 |
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| 19:56.13 | Paradiseee | i was just curious |
| 19:56.25 | Paradiseee | it doesnt change too much from 3,2 |
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| 19:56.47 | somiaj | so then why upgrade to an unstable system that may not work just to get something you don't even really need. |
| 19:57.00 | malmelmil | hello, in your oppinion is 15GB enough diskspace as to properly test debian wheezy xcfe ? this is for a friend who wants to double boot along windows to try. We will probably expand the partition after a week or so if all goes well. Thank you |
| 19:57.03 | somiaj | wheezy-backports is a good palce to get newer software. If you want to play, vm's and chroots are a good place to play while you stay ona very stable system. |
| 19:57.19 | centrx | Answer of the day: Use backports. |
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| 19:57.35 | somiaj | malmelmil: my xfce vm only uses 5gigs, the base install of xfce is right about 3gigs, so I say he is fine unless there are tons of extra software he wishes to install. |
| 19:57.36 | Paradiseee | i dont get it |
| 19:58.11 | malmelmil | thanks somiaj |
| 19:58.19 | Paradiseee | py3.4 isnt unstable |
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| 19:59.27 | somiaj | Paradiseee: that is why I say you should stick to debian stable, you need to learn how debian works. It isn't about the software (pythone 3.4 in this case) it is about how it integrates with the debian system, can be installed on multiple arches, interacts with tons of packages debian provides that also depend on python and the likes |
| 19:59.49 | somiaj | Paradiseee: debian is a very large project, just becase something is stable and works in one case doesn't mean it will work across all of debian's use cases. |
| 20:00.50 | Paradiseee | i know that...but i use py3 |
| 20:01.05 | Paradiseee | i got all my project written in py3 |
| 20:01.06 | ompaul | malmelmil: for a desktop system that's ok but if they want to play with multiple frameworks and other web things you might want to give a bit more, if they want to run virtual machines ... then perhaps that figure is very low |
| 20:01.14 | Paradiseee | i wont problems with <py3.3 |
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| 20:01.55 | ompaul | malmelmil: kernel compilation will want more - it really depends on the use case |
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| 20:02.06 | malmelmil | thanks ompaul, sorry but I don't understand "multiple frameworks", there will be no vm's for starters, just regular office + joy computing |
| 20:02.30 | ompaul | 15 is ok, but 30 would be better |
| 20:02.32 | somiaj | Paradiseee: it is your computer, install what you want on it. But if you want to learn debian and not have to constantlly be fixing things, stick with stable. |
| 20:02.35 | malmelmil | jaja |
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| 20:02.56 | somiaj | space usually isn't an issue, no problem with giving more (: |
| 20:02.57 | malmelmil | ompaul : she wants to try it before giving it the whole HD |
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| 20:03.10 | Paradiseee | somiaj: i just need py3.3 |
| 20:03.13 | malmelmil | her HD is a mere 50 something gb |
| 20:03.17 | Paradiseee | its a must for me |
| 20:03.23 | ompaul | malmelmil: and what is the cpu / ram |
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| 20:03.32 | N_an0r | Hi all, know you how can I install a distibution of Debian from an usb key on a laptop without cd rom reader ? Thks ! |
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| 20:03.46 | malmelmil | ompaul : cpu intel core 1.8, ram 2gb |
| 20:04.00 | malmelmil | N_an0r yeah! |
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| 20:04.32 | malmelmil | i.e. download the live image and write it to usb using dd , then boot from it and install |
| 20:05.05 | malmelmil | you can find complete info about this procedure on debian pages, or live debian pages |
| 20:05.14 | malmelmil | pages, i mean site, just search |
| 20:05.17 | ompaul | wiki.debian.net |
| 20:05.19 | ompaul | !install |
| 20:05.19 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 20:05.30 | malmelmil | neat |
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| 20:06.24 | ompaul | malmelmil: I have 22G in my /usr not var nor etc not home, no data just nothing just /usr ...but then I'm not your typical use |
| 20:06.26 | ompaul | r |
| 20:06.34 | N_an0r | Right, thanks a lot guys ! |
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| 20:23.52 | alxjsn | Does anybody know why when I copy a file to my flash drive the copy speed gets slower and slower |
| 20:24.26 | alxjsn | It seems to take too long to copy a single large file onto my flash drive... |
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| 20:28.51 | stargater | https://www.adafruit.com/product/1876 |
| 20:29.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i got a weird issue, my intel audo card in my netbook was giving out interference on the ear buds last week and now its not registering when i put my buds in the port and stills plays on the speakers.. |
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| 20:29.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | buds work fine in my phone though so it must be the netbook |
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| 20:31.43 | karlpinc | I'm want to turn on user private groups (upg) in wheezy. (It's sad they were on in squeeze and got turned off.) I would add pam_umask to the end of /etc/pam.d/common-session but I notice that there's this pam-auth-update business. Is there a pre-packaged upg config or something else I should be doing than frobbing the pam configs to get the umask right? |
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| 20:32.19 | karlpinc | Eryn_1983_FL: Basic question. Does it work with a different set of headphoes/earbuds/etc? |
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| 20:32.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | i havent tried it yet |
| 20:32.49 | karlpinc | Eryn_1983_FL: That'll tell you if it's hardware. |
| 20:33.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 20:33.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | well i will try it out when i get another pair |
| 20:33.43 | Artemis3 | Eryn_1983_FL, you have to be gentle when plugging those things, what if the port is damaged? |
| 20:34.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am gentle, |
| 20:34.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | gentle like an elephant |
| 20:34.41 | Artemis3 | maybe its time to get a bluetooth thingie |
| 20:34.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | my netbook dont got bluetooth |
| 20:35.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | its too old, |
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| 20:35.31 | Artemis3 | if the buds work elsewhere the port is the likely candidate |
| 20:36.01 | Artemis3 | especially with that elephant treatment |
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| 20:36.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 20:36.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:36.46 | Artemis3 | there is a slight chance you just have the headphones volume slider down tho |
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| 20:37.26 | Artemis3 | check alsamixer or simillar |
| 20:37.48 | Artemis3 | some cards have separate speaker and headphones sliders |
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| 20:40.30 | euphzer | what is the default login manager in xfce4 in wheezy nowadays? |
| 20:40.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | i did |
| 20:41.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | sigh |
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| 20:42.44 | karlpinc | euphzer: I've this feeling that there isn't one. Could be wrong. |
| 20:43.18 | DanDare | Hello. Im using Debian 7. I have 1GB RAM and 2GB for swap. Executing some processing RAM goes low as 64MB but still system seems be not using swap space. If I do "free -m" swap is listed there but informs its using 0MB. |
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| 20:43.36 | euphzer | karlpinc: I mean the one that is installed using the xfce4 install imgs |
| 20:43.41 | karlpinc | DanDare: disk buffering |
| 20:43.51 | DanDare | Is this some issue I must fix? Im performing some disk/RAM intensive task I wa expecting swap being used |
| 20:44.07 | DanDare | karlpinc, what it means? |
| 20:44.09 | centrx | DanDare, You are actually using much less RAM for applications than you think |
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| 20:44.11 | mtn | euphzer: most likely gdm |
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| 20:44.27 | karlpinc | euphzer: Sounds like a task-manager thing. Some uber-package. |
| 20:44.36 | DanDare | centrx, ok. But why swap is always 0? |
| 20:44.51 | centrx | DanDare, You probably don't need to use swap for whatever reason |
| 20:45.00 | centrx | DanDare, 1GB is a fair amount of RAM |
| 20:45.24 | centrx | DanDare, I am sure you could force it with a script |
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| 20:47.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | going to upgrade all my packages maybe something is messed up |
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| 20:47.30 | DanDare | centrx, ok then. I will make a script to monitor swap :) |
| 20:47.47 | centrx | DanDare, A script to fill up your RAM so that swap is used |
| 20:47.52 | ChibaPet | !ops If someone with edit access to dpkg could s/a myriad/myriad/ in the 'install' factoid I'd be grateful. I don't see a way to update it myself, and the grammatical error bothers me. |
| 20:47.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj: chibapet complains about: If someone with edit access to dpkg could s/a myriad/myriad/ in the 'install' factoid I'd be grateful. I don't see a way to update it myself, and the grammatical error bothers me. |
| 20:48.07 | DanDare | centrx, oh, it looks interesting |
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| 20:49.49 | babilen | ChibaPet: That is completely inappropriate -- Please don't abuse the !ops factoid, but simply say what you want (and if that doesn't work try at a later time) |
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| 20:50.27 | rryoumaa | can we put code of conduct in the /topic now? |
| 20:50.28 | karlpinc | ChibaPet: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot is I think what you want |
| 20:51.03 | ChibaPet | babilen: Is !ops only for complaints about channel abuse? I hadn't seen that documented anywhere. karlpinc: Yeah, I read that, but it didn't seem to discuss updating factoids, unless I missed that in my skim. |
| 20:51.25 | ChibaPet | rryoumaa: Is the code of conduct approved and finalized? I thought it was still in process. |
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| 20:52.18 | rryoumaa | if i read the announcement correctly, it passed. it would be wonderful to have the topic point out that it applies to all participants, including ops |
| 20:52.21 | ChibaPet | babilen: Is it possible for non-ops to update factoids? I was assuming it was an ops-only privilege, hence my use of !ops to request it. |
| 20:52.21 | babilen | ChibaPet: Yes, it is reserved for emergencies in which an operator is needed. |
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| 20:52.34 | karlpinc | No clues on my pam problem....? |
| 20:52.47 | ChibaPet | babilen: Ah - documentation would fix that. karlpinc: Reading scrollback, as I missed your question. |
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| 20:52.50 | babilen | ChibaPet: I've updated the factoid btw, /me is going back to doing something else |
| 20:52.58 | ChibaPet | tyvm |
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| 20:53.41 | karlpinc | ChibaPet: Chasing through the dpkg factoids gets you to somewhere that tells yo how to edit them. I've forgotten. |
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| 20:53.48 | ChibaPet | babilen: Ah, does it take time to propogate? I just checked and it still has the old wording. |
| 20:54.09 | euphzer | mtn, karlpinc: the default login manager in xfce4 in debian wheezy is lightdm nowadays |
| 20:54.12 | ChibaPet | karlpinc: I'll explore it in a bit. Thank you. |
| 20:54.48 | karlpinc | euphzer: Thanks. How did you find it? I tried chaseing dependendies up to task-xfce4-desktop and down, but gave up. |
| 20:54.49 | babilen | ChibaPet: It is correct now |
| 20:54.57 | babilen | dpkg: install |
| 20:54.58 | dpkg | There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 20:55.02 | babilen | See ? ^^^ |
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| 20:55.32 | ChibaPet | babilen: Hm, the requested change was s/a myriad/myriad/ - the grammatical error is still there. Hm. |
| 20:55.51 | euphzer | karlpinc: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/amd64/list-cd/debian-7.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.list.gz :-) |
| 20:56.09 | karlpinc | euphzer: :) |
| 20:56.17 | ChibaPet | Oh, you added "of" - but that's also an error, as 'myriad' isn't a noun. |
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| 20:56.42 | babilen | ChibaPet: It is not, the idion is "a myriad of" -- If you want I can double check that in google n-grams or get you a parse in LFG, but that would be too much. |
| 20:56.45 | ChibaPet | babilen: Moving from one grammatical error to another isn't an improvement. I don't want to be a pain about it, and I'd be happy to be able to edit it myself. :P |
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| 20:58.40 | babilen | ChibaPet: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/myriad -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myriad#English -- http://www.thefreedictionary.com/myriad -- Can we drop this now? |
| 20:58.49 | ChibaPet | babilen: Of course. |
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| 20:59.37 | ChibaPet | Hm. I've learned something new. Or old, in this case. :) |
| 20:59.43 | babilen | ChibaPet: Also http://lfg-demo.computing.dcu.ie/nclt/servlets/ShowTrees?file=/var/www/cgi-bin/lfg_parser/temp26066_ch.prd&s_num=1 -- |
| 20:59.55 | babilen | ChibaPet: Further questions in #debian-offtopic please |
| 21:00.18 | ChibaPet | Oh, your links have left no remaining uncertainty. Thank you. |
| 21:02.10 | jelly-home | offers ChibaPet a myriad explanations... well, just one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mTUmczVdik |
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| 21:06.47 | Greek-Boy | I am trying to install Debian from Yumi using the netist iso but it doesn't seem to work. When I select install it doesn't do anything. Any suggestions? |
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| 21:08.40 | karlpinc | Greek-Boy: What is Yumi? |
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| 21:10.45 | ChibaPet | jelly-home: In keeping with your link, a friend had me watch this once, for obvious reasons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY |
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| 21:11.32 | Greek-Boy | karlpinc: Multiboot usb utility from pendrivelinux.com |
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| 21:12.08 | Brigo | !tell Greek-Boy about usb install |
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| 21:13.21 | zerodrama | is the free software radeon driver able to do cryptocurrency mining? |
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| 21:14.13 | Greek-Boy | Brigo: bot doesn't work? |
| 21:14.34 | Brigo | Greek-Boy, why? |
| 21:14.43 | karlpinc | Greek-Boy: Your irc client is hiding the private message somewhere. |
| 21:14.47 | Greek-Boy | oh sorry |
| 21:14.53 | Greek-Boy | i hadn't seen it |
| 21:14.55 | Greek-Boy | it's there |
| 21:15.10 | Brigo | ok :) |
| 21:15.26 | teraflops | heh |
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| 21:17.15 | karlpinc | On a related note, it seems I should be adding "session optional pam_umask.so usergroups" to both common-session and common-session-noninteractive, right? |
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| 21:23.41 | mars_rulez | http://urlmin.com/4qj0u |
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| 21:24.21 | wols | !ops mars_rulez is an affiliate spammer |
| 21:24.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj: wols complains about: mars_rulez is an affiliate spammer |
| 21:24.48 | Wug | therer has got to be a better way to attract attention |
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| 21:26.19 | AlexPortable | does debian haves gnome fallback? |
| 21:27.30 | karlpinc | AlexPortable: What's that? |
| 21:28.00 | AlexPortable | gnome how it used to look like in ubuntu 10.04 |
| 21:28.48 | peterS | gnome classic, I believe it is called...? I thought I'd heard Debian had that, yeah, but I don't use gdm so I couldn't say for sure |
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| 21:29.02 | karlpinc | AlexPortable: There was some move afoot to keep something like that. Perhaps you can chase through the gnome factoids. |
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| 21:29.07 | karlpinc | !gnome classic |
| 21:29.19 | karlpinc | !tell AlexPortable about msg the bot |
| 21:29.34 | SimonB_ | why doesn't this work for me? find . -iname '*.avi' -or -iname '*.mkv' -or -iname '*.mp4' -exec cp {} to/copy \; |
| 21:29.49 | peterS | SimonB_: -o not -or |
| 21:29.52 | AlexPortable | 23:29 <dpkg> karlpinc wants you to know: Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at |
| 21:29.53 | AlexPortable | http://ircbots.debian.net/ . If you're helping people, you can check that you have the right factoid before showing it to others. |
| 21:30.03 | AlexPortable | huh |
| 21:30.10 | peterS | SimonB_: anyway I suspect it's order of operation. Do you mean (a or b or c) -exec ... or do you mean a or b or (c -exec ...) ? |
| 21:30.31 | AlexPortable | nvm |
| 21:31.08 | SimonB_ | peterS: the first one. So that would be find . (-iname '*.avi' -or -iname '*.mkv' -or -iname '*.mp4') -exec cp {} to/copy \; ? |
| 21:31.16 | AlexPortable | karlpinc: the bot isn't really helping me out; http://pastebin.com/9e5fyhxV |
| 21:31.16 | karlpinc | SimonB_: Which means, put \ in front of the ( and ) or otherwise quote them. |
| 21:31.27 | peterS | SimonB_: the ( ) need to be done as separate words. and since ( ) are syntax in the shell you have to escape them as '(' or \( |
| 21:31.59 | peterS | SimonB_: so like, find \( -iname '*.avi' -o -iname '*.mkv' -o -iname '*.mp4' \) -exec cp {} to/copy \; |
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| 21:33.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok peeps i got more 'info' on my sound problem, i can hear music fine but i am getting no voices, what the heck? |
| 21:33.03 | atannus | morning |
| 21:33.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | how do i fix this.. puslaudio is messing up big time, |
| 21:33.25 | SimonB_ | peterS, karlpinc: thanks! |
| 21:33.26 | atannus | Eryn_1983_FL, did you consult with a psychiatrist? |
| 21:33.26 | karlpinc | AlexPortable: I forget how to search the bot. Sorry. |
| 21:33.28 | peterS | SimonB_: ...or try this: find \( -iname '*.avi' -o -iname '*.mkv' -o -iname '*.mp4' \) -exec cp --target-directory=to/copy {} + |
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| 21:33.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | is it thinking i got a 5.1 speaker setup or something? |
| 21:33.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol no.. |
| 21:33.45 | peterS | SimonB_: this being a tiny tiny bit faster as the + means all the arguments can go on a _single_ cp command line |
| 21:33.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | they said to take my pills and ask you guys.. |
| 21:33.53 | skypers | hi atannus |
| 21:33.56 | skypers | nice nickname ahah :D |
| 21:34.29 | SimonB_ | peterS: cool! |
| 21:34.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there a way to set the speaker setup with pulseaudio |
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| 21:35.18 | peterS | Eryn_1983_FL: dunno about pulse, but I recently found hdajackretask in alsa-tools-gui that fixed some sound channel problems for me |
| 21:35.39 | peterS | (alsa-tools-gui being the package and hdajackretask being the program) |
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| 21:36.11 | peterS | now I can hear all the voices in my head. or not in my head, as the case may be. |
| 21:36.39 | vook | Is it possible to load a (any) terminal emulator as read-only or switch an existing window to read-only mode ? |
| 21:37.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 21:37.12 | vook | view-only may be a better way of putting it. |
| 21:37.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
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| 21:37.37 | mcfrisk | Q: how to disable close lid to sleep in latest sid/xfce/systemd? I've disabled those in xfce power manager but something (systemd?) brought it back |
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| 21:37.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | we'll se what i can find |
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| 21:39.13 | atannus | Where does apcu store its apcu.php file? I can't seem to locate it. |
| 21:39.14 | peterS | mind you hdajackretask only works for Intel HD Audio compatible chipsets, but those are pretty common these days |
| 21:39.45 | peterS | atannus: never heard of it but have you tried 'dpkg -L' on the package name? that's the usual first thing to check for those questions |
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| 21:40.40 | atannus | peterS, excellent, that helped. |
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| 21:41.22 | atannus | peterS, btw the package is php5-apcu |
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| 21:41.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | i cant find that too |
| 21:41.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | tool |
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| 21:42.21 | peterS | Eryn_1983_FL: you have the alsa-tools-gui package installed? that's where hdajackretask lives |
| 21:42.55 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
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| 21:43.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | not in there |
| 21:43.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | where is it install i cant auto complete it |
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| 21:44.30 | peterS | Eryn_1983_FL: oh, my bad, hdajackretask is new to version 1.0.26.1-1, which is not in debian stable |
| 21:44.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | :( |
| 21:44.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 21:45.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | well i am tired and i am going to go home now after i get a coffee |
| 21:45.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | thanks for the help i guess i am buying a new netbook booo |
| 21:45.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | i cant live without my headphones |
| 21:45.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | or i could just get a usb one i suppose? does those work in debian? |
| 21:45.52 | peterS | they should. but really your existing setup should work too |
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| 21:47.24 | cafuego | Eryn_1983_FL: My usb sennheisers work fine with Linux. |
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| 21:48.32 | cafuego | Eryn_1983_FL: See also: USB audio dongles with 3.5mm audio jack |
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| 21:56.19 | teraflops | Eryn_1983_FL: i have a bt/usb headset and works fine on linux too |
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| 22:27.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 22:52.16 | monod | cfdisk tells me strange things |
| 22:52.22 | monod | :( |
| 22:52.38 | monod | is it correct to type like this btw? 'cfdisk /dev/sda'? |
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| 22:54.50 | teraflops | what does cfdisk say? |
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| 22:56.06 | monod | teraflops, FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap :( |
| 22:56.25 | monod | on issuing 'cfdisk /dev/sda', teraflops |
| 22:56.56 | nell | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.57 | monod | also, issuing cfdisk /dev/sda1 I get: FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 1: Partition begins after end-of-disk |
| 22:57.13 | monod | teraflops, ^ |
| 22:57.43 | monod | I'm gonna google it, what do you think teraflops? |
| 22:57.47 | monod | Good idea huh? |
| 22:57.57 | teraflops | i think you partitioned badly |
| 22:58.13 | teraflops | may be you partitiones the disk using iwndows? |
| 22:58.27 | teraflops | windows¿ monod |
| 22:58.29 | monod | Nope, but I had several faults, recently |
| 22:58.52 | monod | faults that forced me to shutdown the pc by holding the power button |
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| 22:59.02 | teraflops | then thats the answer |
| 22:59.06 | monod | God. |
| 22:59.09 | monod | Dman it. |
| 22:59.17 | monod | Yes, dman it. |
| 22:59.30 | monod | Btw, how to solve? :( I had a bad feeling about this... |
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| 22:59.39 | teraflops | try a livecs like partedmagic monod |
| 23:00.01 | teraflops | livecd |
| 23:00.11 | monod | Okay, and if I get partedmagic to a CD then I'll see an option like "repair"? Or what else? |
| 23:00.17 | monod | I mean: what will I see? |
| 23:00.21 | teraflops | i dont think so |
| 23:00.23 | teraflops | heh |
| 23:00.29 | monod | Me neither :D |
| 23:00.40 | monod | I just express bad in English, very often. |
| 23:01.05 | monod | I mean, it can't just be 'burn the CD, run the CD' |
| 23:01.24 | monod | So, I don't know if I'm supposed to do something after running partedmagic on CD |
| 23:01.28 | monod | am I? |
| 23:01.49 | teraflops | monod: you got that errors before the pressbutton issue? |
| 23:02.16 | monod | I can't remember :( teraflops, this is the first time since a long time ago that I tried cfdisk |
| 23:02.24 | monod | And I've just seen this error msg now. |
| 23:02.46 | monod | And I thought it was related to faults too. |
| 23:03.06 | teraflops | mmm im not sure about that |
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| 23:03.54 | monod | So I'll have to try some partedmagic's magic |
| 23:04.02 | monod | I now have to go sleep :/ |
| 23:04.08 | monod | My brain demands it. :D |
| 23:04.17 | teraflops | i think the partition scheme is not good |
| 23:04.21 | teraflops | mee to heh |
| 23:04.22 | monod | Ugh :S |
| 23:04.24 | teraflops | too* |
| 23:04.47 | monod | Oh wait! If it's just the partition table, some program should be able to correct it, right??? |
| 23:05.03 | monod | By reading "partition blocks"-like |
| 23:05.04 | monod | ? |
| 23:05.14 | monod | "Reconstructing partition tables" |
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| 23:05.17 | teraflops | but thats not need to be in relationship with the issues you talked about |
| 23:05.27 | monod | ("Rebuilding" maybe) |
| 23:05.32 | monod | Oh ok |
| 23:05.49 | monod | I can't imagine what else would have caused it thogh |
| 23:05.52 | monod | tough* |
| 23:05.56 | monod | though |
| 23:05.56 | teraflops | that what I tries to tell but my encglish is awfull too |
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| 23:06.04 | monod | hahahahah |
| 23:06.09 | monod | :°D |
| 23:06.22 | monod | It's okay man, you spent some precious time to help |
| 23:06.25 | monod | I thank you! |
| 23:06.30 | monod | I now have to go |
| 23:06.34 | monod | Cya! ;) |
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| 23:06.40 | teraflops | tried* and its obscure here and i dont have retrolimuniates keyb |
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| 23:06.42 | teraflops | heh |
| 23:06.53 | teraflops | bye |
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| 23:07.51 | teraflops | heh |
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| 23:11.18 | eristisk | Kdenlive is not loading any of my projects (stuck at 50% loading) and I tried to purge the package and then reinstall after purging |
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| 23:11.23 | Timh | hello, can anyone help me with a nvidia driver problem? I cannot boot up .... I switched to a new card and I get a frozen desktop |
| 23:11.58 | eristisk | But after reinstallation, it should bring me thru the setup wizard again, which is does not. I also still have the "can't load any saved projects" bug. Why doesn't a purge completely 'reset' this program's settings like it should? |
| 23:12.11 | aguitel | Timh, what card |
| 23:12.40 | Timh | gtx 750 |
| 23:12.53 | Timh | I did try to do it myself before coming here.... |
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| 23:12.59 | Timh | so I am desperate |
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| 23:13.34 | Timh | the desktop is cinnamon and 304.xx drivers were installed for legacy but I tried to purge that and install the driver from nvidia |
| 23:13.48 | Timh | I blacklisted nouveau |
| 23:14.08 | Timh | but, it's a mess now so I just tried to re-install nouveau - I wanted to save my data |
| 23:14.21 | teraflops | eristisk: may be is still loading a conf file into your /home directory? |
| 23:14.22 | Timh | I upgraded the kernel to 3.14 but I still have the other older ones |
| 23:14.27 | aguitel | Timh, it works with 334.21 series |
| 23:15.15 | aguitel | Timh, see that :http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/03/install-nvidia-driver-334-21-ubuntu-linux/ |
| 23:16.29 | Timh | I did all that :-( |
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| 23:16.42 | Timh | well, I tried driver ver. 334? |
| 23:17.07 | aguitel | Timh, try 334 |
| 23:17.10 | eristisk | teraflops: from where? |
| 23:17.20 | Timh | I tried 334.21 |
| 23:17.46 | teraflops | from .conf/whatever? |
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| 23:20.56 | republican_devil | how do I see what programs start on boot and change them? |
| 23:21.03 | republican_devil | I dont neet netconsole or exim |
| 23:21.13 | republican_devil | 7.5 amd64 |
| 23:22.20 | teraflops | republican_devil: https://wiki.debian.org/Daemon |
| 23:22.23 | trampel | republican_devil: i can tell you this much, this is rather specific to the debian version. i just got dragged into the systemd world. |
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| 23:23.17 | gez | Hi |
| 23:23.43 | gez | I've been fighting with a Macbook Pro 4,1 trying to make it work with jessie. |
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| 23:24.02 | gez | It was a real pain. |
| 23:24.08 | teraflops | sure? |
| 23:25.10 | gez | After several attempts, I could make it work, however there are a couple of issues I couldn't solve: nvidia driver, and making reboot/shutdown work from gnome |
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| 23:26.15 | gez | Is there anybody here with experience with oldish macbooks with nvidia? |
| 23:26.18 | teraflops | reboot/shutdown just install systemd-sysv gez |
| 23:26.24 | Timh | I guess I am screwed |
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| 23:26.36 | Timh | I'll put in the old card back in and save my data to an external drive |
| 23:27.07 | gez | teraflops: Thanks! I'll try that. |
| 23:27.15 | eristisk | OKay really.. why can't I have more than 1 application using my sound card at once? I can't listen to music while I render a video with my editor, even tho my video editor is NOT PLAYING SOUND?? |
| 23:27.20 | teraflops | yw |
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| 23:28.51 | republican_devil | systemd kinda blows |
| 23:28.57 | republican_devil | its like i dont wana run solaris |
| 23:29.07 | teraflops | may the video editor requires full access to the sound or may be you are not using pulse eristisk |
| 23:29.43 | republican_devil | pulsaaudio was hell wen i tried it |
| 23:29.55 | teraflops | as solaris? |
| 23:30.03 | republican_devil | linux |
| 23:30.11 | republican_devil | systemd makes lnux feel like soalris |
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| 23:30.23 | eristisk | teraflops: I killed PA yeah |
| 23:30.27 | teraflops | yeah |
| 23:30.36 | eristisk | I really need that for running 2 apps using sound at once? |
| 23:30.44 | teraflops | weltzooo: eristisk thet find a way to route the audio |
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| 23:31.08 | teraflops | sorry weltzooo |
| 23:31.15 | teraflops | eristisk thet find a way to route the audio |
| 23:31.19 | wulllst | hi, is there any command line address book tool, officially included into debian? |
| 23:31.43 | teraflops | the easy out of the box is pulse almost for me eristisk |
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| 23:32.02 | teraflops | s/thet/then |
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| 23:37.55 | gez | teraflops: systemd-sysv worked. Thanks! I was pulling my hair out with that one. |
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| 23:39.01 | gez | teraflops: Now the only missing bit is the graphics drivers. Do you know if it's possible to use the non-free drivers with that hardware? (GeForcfe M9600GT) |
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| 23:39.53 | gez | Nouveau crashes, and with the nvidia non-free drivers can't start X. ("No screens found") |
| 23:40.18 | republican_devil | ha ha |
| 23:40.21 | republican_devil | you fail |
| 23:40.28 | republican_devil | now did u use aptitude??? |
| 23:40.34 | republican_devil | or did u get creativ? |
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| 23:41.25 | corpcomp | I'm a newby. Does anyone know how to get aufs working on wheezy? Altimately i would like aufs3 working. |
| 23:41.37 | gez | republican_devil: that question was for me? |
| 23:41.49 | teraflops | what nvidia card are you using gez |
| 23:41.54 | teraflops | exact_ model |
| 23:41.58 | gez | M9600GT |
| 23:42.07 | gez | 8600 |
| 23:42.09 | gez | sorry |
| 23:42.11 | gez | M8600GT |
| 23:42.17 | teraflops | yeah |
| 23:42.35 | teraflops | uhm gez the nonfree nvidia should work |
| 23:42.47 | gez | The same says nvidia-detect |
| 23:42.54 | teraflops | jus after rebooting |
| 23:42.55 | gez | But for some reason it doesn't. |
| 23:43.04 | gez | I've tried all the available versions |
| 23:43.09 | gez | no dice |
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| 23:43.27 | teraflops | did you tried rebootint the machine? yes sounds weird ... |
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| 23:44.16 | gez | Yes |
| 23:44.19 | teraflops | uhm |
| 23:44.31 | gez | I created the xorg conf file of course. |
| 23:44.40 | gez | I mean, I did the usual that makes nvidia cards work |
| 23:44.59 | gez | My desktop boxes have nvidia cards and they work. |
| 23:45.22 | gez | Actually, one of them has a 8600GT, running happily with Debian |
| 23:45.39 | gez | But maybe there's something with the mobile version of the chip, and EFI boot |
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| 23:46.32 | teraflops | gez: did you tired without xorg.conf? |
| 23:46.34 | gez | So far the best I could get is Gallium on llvmpipe |
| 23:46.57 | gez | yes, black screen. |
| 23:47.42 | teraflops | did you blacklisted nouveau |
| 23:47.42 | gez | give me a minute, I'll re-install the driver and copy the error message to a pastebin |
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| 23:48.06 | gez | Yes, the drivers installation blacklists. It works, I checked and the module is not loaded. |
| 23:48.25 | gez | I'm using nomodeset because nouveau crashes with EFI anyway |
| 23:48.28 | teraflops | of if you tried nouveau before checked nvidia is not blacklisted? |
| 23:48.39 | teraflops | nomodeset? |
| 23:48.41 | teraflops | uhm |
| 23:48.52 | gez | Sorry, I'm not being clear. |
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| 23:49.14 | gez | I used nomodeset because nvidia didn't work and nouveau kept crashing |
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| 23:50.14 | teraflops | so checked you are using kms and nvidia is not blacklisted because the previous nouveau? gez |
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| 23:51.58 | gez | yup |
| 23:52.02 | teraflops | uhm |
| 23:52.14 | gez | kms module is loaded, nouveau doesn't seem to be present |
| 23:52.21 | gez | dkms |
| 23:52.25 | teraflops | and nvidia is loaded? |
| 23:52.31 | gez | dkms builds the module. |
| 23:52.37 | gez | I think the module is not loaded |
| 23:52.49 | gez | let me copy the error message |
| 23:52.55 | gez | bbl |
| 23:53.52 | republican_devil | yeah |
| 23:53.53 | republican_devil | well |
| 23:54.09 | republican_devil | ok where is that link about stopping all the crap that starts up again? |
| 23:54.18 | republican_devil | bleth bleth |
| 23:54.30 | teraflops | i mean kernel mode setting not dinamic kernel module support gez |
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| 23:55.40 | teraflops | fuck acromins :P |
| 23:55.56 | teraflops | acronyms* |
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| 23:56.05 | republican_devil | debian something daemons? |
| 23:57.17 | teraflops | gez: ksm != dkms |
| 23:58.26 | teraflops | well, mistyping means bed time |
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| 23:59.17 | republican_devil | ok how stop exim n stuff from starting at boot? |
| 23:59.24 | republican_devil | and console control whateve rin hel that is |
| 23:59.38 | republican_devil | console-kit |
| 23:59.52 | republican_devil | duutch |
