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| 00:02.04 | Dungeon | bryanstein did you see my message? |
| 00:02.25 | Dungeon | or my chan comments rather? |
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| 00:08.22 | blackhole | Can someone help me please? |
| 00:08.31 | blackhole | I am not able to find any answer on google even |
| 00:08.38 | blackhole | Hi I am running Debian 7 and running vncserver :1 is giving me issue, it error with this log --> http://ideone.com/aErS3e . Can someone please have a look |
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| 00:11.32 | Brigo | blackhole, are you try to lauch it from a ssh sesion or so? |
| 00:11.49 | Dungeon | and no that isnt right because it didnt pull up after the box rebooted |
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| 00:11.51 | blackhole | Brigo: no, i am logged in Gnome on my machine |
| 00:11.56 | Brigo | i think it is telling that it needs a tty (console) access |
| 00:12.07 | blackhole | Brigo: I just did vncserver :1 |
| 00:12.33 | Dungeon | the changed i made to the interfaces didnt add nor do they show in the ifconfig -a |
| 00:12.47 | blackhole | Brigo: sorry :2 (though it works for none) , i did that in terminal opened in gnome enviorment. |
| 00:13.41 | Brigo | blackhole, i never used vnc, so may be is not really important but why :2 or :1? |
| 00:14.23 | blackhole | Brigo: oh that just means which number you want to use, it's of course not important but the link I gave has :2 in logs so i wanted to ensure no one misunderstood if i said :1 here |
| 00:15.29 | Brigo | which number of what? normally it is related to Xserver session. |
| 00:15.53 | blackhole | Brigo: I meant xserver session number |
| 00:16.01 | blackhole | Brigo: you can use same in viewer |
| 00:16.05 | Brigo | and if you are running X on display :0 it should fail. |
| 00:16.17 | blackhole | Brigo: I understand that |
| 00:16.25 | Brigo | and you are using display :1? |
| 00:16.31 | blackhole | Brigo: I am running X on display :0 but trying to runvncserver on display :1 |
| 00:16.44 | blackhole | Brigo: so it should start vncserver on :1 or :2 or as many as I want |
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| 00:17.02 | Brigo | and don't you need to launch another X server on :1? |
| 00:17.21 | Brigo | i will install it and try. |
| 00:17.33 | blackhole | Sure do that |
| 00:17.44 | blackhole | no you don't need to launch X server |
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| 00:23.43 | Brigo | blackhole, you are ok. I cant launch it, but it looks like i need some configuration only. |
| 00:23.51 | blackhole | yes, i know |
| 00:23.57 | blackhole | Brigo: but I can't |
| 00:24.09 | blackhole | Brigo: I have it working sometime back but it seems I messed up something.. |
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| 00:26.43 | Brigo | blackhole, may be vnc version problem |
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| 00:26.52 | blackhole | hmm .. i dnt knw |
| 00:26.57 | Brigo | You're running an old VNC 3 series server, which doesn't support the VNC |
| 00:26.58 | Brigo | extension required by the VNC 4 series "vncconfig" command |
| 00:27.00 | blackhole | Brigo: I have tried removing and installing it again |
| 00:27.07 | Brigo | from here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/vnc/list/55041 |
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| 00:28.27 | Brigo | blackhole, did you try sudo? |
| 00:28.37 | blackhole | Brigo: oh yeh |
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| 00:33.02 | ebfull | i partitioned everything under the root partition, but i would like /tmp to have its own diskspace apart from everything else |
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| 00:33.23 | ebfull | should i create an ext image and mount it there? what's best practice with systemd |
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| 00:44.05 | Urk | Would someone be able to guide me on fsck a drive? I think I messed up my file system. |
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| 01:03.27 | DanDare | Hi. Why if I do 'update-alternatives --config java' and choose java7, the system variable $JAVA_HOME doesnt change accordingly ? |
| 01:03.46 | DanDare | im getting really confused about setting up java in here :/ |
| 01:04.11 | DanDare | one of my applications now say for JVM version: "Oracle Corporation: 1.7.0_55 (OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM)" |
| 01:04.25 | DanDare | this is a really mess :/ |
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| 01:09.42 | abrotman | DanDare: update-java-alternatives ? |
| 01:09.51 | abrotman | is that still a thing? |
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| 01:11.06 | DanDare | abrotman, I confess I dont know exactly im doing than following some tutorial on 'update-alternatives --config java' will try your suggestion |
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| 01:12.33 | DanDare | hmm. I guess I will need to learn how java works and etc. I just needed to run something that needs java :p |
| 01:12.42 | abrotman | probably a decent plan |
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| 01:13.02 | DanDare | but some stuff works on some java versions, other just in another versions, for compiling stuff. I ended with 3 java versions at the end |
| 01:13.07 | DanDare | yeah .. |
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| 01:13.34 | DanDare | thank you |
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| 01:31.24 | hydra7 | how to know if some package is installed on the system or not |
| 01:31.41 | centrx | dpkg -l <package name> |
| 01:31.41 | dpkg | ii <package name> 3.2-11 centrx's private stamp collection |
| 01:31.52 | centrx | dpkg, :P |
| 01:31.52 | dpkg | it has been said that p is 1. piano (musical direction) 2. proton |
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| 02:30.49 | He_ | I am trying to change the color of the console in debian, but I am finding no help on google |
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| 02:36.32 | He_ | I am trying to change the color of the console in debian, but I am finding no help on google. |
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| 02:37.47 | Grano | hi |
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| 02:37.59 | centrx | !hi |
| 02:37.59 | dpkg | hello, centrx |
| 02:38.40 | centrx | He_, Here's a good search query for you (looks like top result has it): https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+change+console+text+color |
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| 02:39.39 | He_ | centrx, That link was not there five minutes ago lol |
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| 02:48.07 | pawprint | how can i find out how a given .deb file was created? (ie. i'm particularly interested in any ./configure options and CFLAGS/LDFLAGS that were used to compile the binaries in it) |
| 02:49.17 | abrotman | dpkg: tell pawprint about debian/rules |
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| 02:51.25 | pawprint | thanks |
| 02:52.03 | PryMar56 | pawprint, I recently went down that road with binutils. It was daunting |
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| 02:53.37 | PryMar56 | daunting, since I made changes and recompiled, then tried to use the new debs |
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| 03:07.01 | View | Can i customize the debian console like arch linux |
| 03:07.52 | centrx | customize how? |
| 03:08.30 | View | Give it a background |
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| 03:09.08 | abrotman | I'm sure you can, figure out how Arch did it, do it in Debian |
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| 03:09.32 | View | Okay thank you guys |
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| 03:17.03 | chovy | when i run apt-get update it can't connect to a mirror. how do i change mirrors? |
| 03:17.09 | chovy | mirrors.modwest.com |
| 03:18.12 | somiaj | chovy: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 03:27.14 | chovy | somiaj: that doesn't mention mirrors.modwest.com at all |
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| 03:27.42 | rvdv | chovy: http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ |
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| 03:28.21 | LtL | rvdv: please do not recommend that site. |
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| 03:28.34 | LtL | chovy: do NOT use that site |
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| 03:28.38 | chovy | ok |
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| 03:28.41 | rvdv | reason? |
| 03:28.53 | LtL | rvdv: it makes miste |
| 03:28.58 | rvdv | OK |
| 03:29.01 | LtL | rvdv: it makes mistakes |
| 03:29.30 | HappyNewYear13 | who's the equivalent to mark shuttleworth in debian? |
| 03:29.32 | rvdv | won't do it again :-) .. .sorry |
| 03:29.45 | chovy | who is mark shuttleworth? |
| 03:29.53 | themill | HappyNewYear13: there isn't one, Debian doesn't operate in that way. |
| 03:29.58 | LtL | no problem, thanks rvdv |
| 03:30.04 | HappyNewYear13 | oh i see themill |
| 03:30.38 | centrx | HappyNewYear13, A Debian Project Leader is elected each year, but in general the most important "leaders" are the Debian Constitution, Social Contract, Free Software Guidelines, and Policy Manual (and the Technical Committee) |
| 03:30.40 | LtL | chovy: its off-topic realy, google or ask in #debin-offtopic |
| 03:30.58 | centrx | HappyNewYear13, http://www.debian.org/intro/organization |
| 03:31.37 | HappyNewYear13 | so ubuntu is like a dictatorship and debian a democracy? |
| 03:31.57 | centrx | HappyNewYear13, Ubuntu is made by a for-profit corporation with a CEO. |
| 03:32.01 | themill | HappyNewYear13: debian isn't a democracy for the most part, it's a do-ocracy. |
| 03:32.16 | HappyNewYear13 | do-ocracy? interesting |
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| 03:32.30 | themill | the people actually doing the work are empowered to make their own decisions. |
| 03:32.50 | rvdv | chovy: if you want to change the mirror where to download software packages from you can use https://www.debian.org/mirror/list to find a miror close to you ... just change the URL in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:33.05 | HappyNewYear13 | have you guys met mark shuttleworth in person? |
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| 03:33.30 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 03:33.39 | HappyNewYear13 | sorry |
| 03:34.07 | chovy | mark shuttlesworth can eat it |
| 03:34.25 | HappyNewYear13 | eat what? |
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| 03:35.06 | HappyNewYear13 | i want to know if he's married but wikipedia saye nothing |
| 03:35.10 | HappyNewYear13 | says* |
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| 03:38.22 | HappyNewYear13 | maybe he's gay |
| 03:38.54 | HappyNewYear13 | pink elephant in the room |
| 03:39.18 | jmcnaught | HappyNewYear13: maybe it's none of our business. this is a support channel, not a place to gossip |
| 03:39.28 | HappyNewYear13 | :O sorry again |
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| 03:41.37 | chovy | why do you care? |
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| 03:43.32 | HappyNewYear13 | chovy, why do you care i care? |
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| 03:50.47 | HappyNewYear13 | nite nite friends |
| 03:51.32 | somiaj | chovy: check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for additional sources |
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| 04:50.09 | jeuk_ | anyone know what's going on here: http://pastebin.com/tc3TUxxe ?? was just trying to install virtualbox |
| 04:53.38 | wols | !insserv |
| 04:53.38 | dpkg | insserv is a dependency-based <init> system that is compatible with <sysvinit> and is the default from Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards. To use insserv, your init scripts need to have tags at the top of them that describe what they depend on, to permit the correct ordering of the init scripts; ask me about <missing lsb tags>. |
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| 04:53.59 | wols | your (custom) init scripts are written badly and make impossible demands |
| 04:54.11 | wols | their dependencies are wrong |
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| 04:54.53 | jeuk_ | wols: didn't even realize I had custom init scripts? |
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| 05:02.23 | wols | iptablex doesn't look like from debian, not sure about minissdp either |
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| 05:11.03 | somiaj | wols: oh iptablex, he has worse problems than bad initscripts, should look that up in google. |
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| 05:12.14 | somiaj | jeuk_: you have major problems if you have that initscript on your system. I would disconnect that machine from the internet. |
| 05:12.43 | jeuk_ | somiaj: which initscript and give me the bash command to run |
| 05:13.30 | somiaj | jeuk_: your machine has most likely been compermised. What version of debian are you running on that? |
| 05:13.45 | jeuk_ | somiaj: kind of new to this so I'm not exactly sure what's going on. Might've been something I tried installing from instructions that wasn't too clean |
| 05:13.57 | jeuk_ | somiaj: Linux SERVER 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 05:14.34 | somiaj | jeuk_: yea looks like you are runngin debian, but look up iptablex and iptables in google, you will see that is not good to have on your system. I would basically remove that system from the internet and think about recovery (which should include a reinstall) |
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| 05:15.12 | jeuk_ | somiaj: dang, took me a week just to get everything working correctly on this setup... |
| 05:15.28 | jeuk_ | there a way to preserve the system state, packages and all without the malicious bits? |
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| 05:17.13 | somiaj | jeuk_: I'm unsure the scope of the compermise, but the only way to truely be safe is to reinstall from scratch and be very careful with what you backup, it seems to hide the infecting script .IptabLex and .IptabLes in various parts on your system |
| 05:17.34 | somiaj | jeuk_: again look it up in google, nothign seems good but there isn't a definte link that says this is how you have been infected. |
| 05:18.18 | jmcnaught | jeuk_: did you install any software external to debian? (third party apt repositories, install scripts and the like?) |
| 05:18.59 | jeuk_ | jmcnaught: yup, and now I think I should steer away from guides that include appending sources... |
| 05:19.08 | somiaj | seems it is a trojan of some sorts, and the rule is basicaly if you have been compermised you can't trust anything on that system anymore. |
| 05:19.21 | jmcnaught | jeuk_: somiaj is correct about recovery. Anything that you keep from the compromised system needs to be inspected thoroughly. Probably best to start from scratch |
| 05:20.30 | jeuk_ | I don't think I have the insight to be able to tell, so I'll have to reinstall I suppose and set up all the drivers etc again in the coming days. I was actually (from the pastebin where somiaj saw the virus) trying to install virtualbox so I could sandbox a lot of "shady" applications, but I guess I was a bit too late |
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| 05:21.40 | jmcnaught | jeuk_: and keep it pure debian this time :) You can do so much stuff with what's included in debian, I personally don't think it's worth venturing outside unless you have very specific needs and you're 100% certain that a solution cannot be found with what Debian provides |
| 05:22.45 | jeuk_ | jmcnaught: well, it's a HTPC and an entertainment system so some pieces of software (emulators, p2p streamers, etc) are not available on the officials repos... I think I can do most of that stuff inside of a VM anyway just to be safe |
| 05:24.02 | somiaj | compiling trusted sourcecode is more reliable than even trying to install trusted binary packages on debain in my experience, seems lots of .debs are poorly made in the sense they only work with very limited debian configurations |
| 05:24.32 | somiaj | also keep up to date on security updates and run wheezy |
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| 05:25.12 | jmcnaught | jeuk_: running shady software in a VM is still risky. Depending on how you setup the VM it's still shady software running on your LAN (possibly accessing other computers at home) |
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| 05:26.01 | jeuk_ | will do, and just to make sure, as ridiculous as it sounds, there's no way the potentially malicious bit will make itself into .conf files (text, that is)? can it hide in some of my configuration and script files? |
| 05:26.37 | diginet | can anyone here help me with wget? |
| 05:26.55 | somiaj | diginet: ask your question |
| 05:27.07 | diginet | somiaj: I just meant if it was allowed |
| 05:27.10 | somiaj | jeuk_: anything can be compermised and lost of times configs are scripts so it could hide itself in places. |
| 05:27.29 | somiaj | diginet: if you run a proper debian system we help various issues, (: |
| 05:27.37 | jmcnaught | jeuk_: i would assume any type of file is compromised |
| 05:27.39 | diginet | somiaj: thanks :) |
| 05:27.39 | jeuk_ | somiaj: where would it hide considering it's a text file? in metadata or something? |
| 05:28.25 | somiaj | jeuk_: it would just hide in the test file, so check it before just blindy coping it to the new system. |
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| 05:28.35 | somiaj | jeuk_: sorry text file |
| 05:28.37 | jmcnaught | jeuk_: if you read the text file and understand it completely then it's safe. but that means reading and understanding **every text file**. |
| 05:28.39 | jeuk_ | somiaj: yeah, will do for that. |
| 05:29.01 | jeuk_ | jmcnaught: yes, I just meant my personal files, some python scripts, the bashrc, the samba.conf, etc |
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| 05:29.05 | diginet | but anyway, basically I'm mirroring a wiki, and each file is saved as, for example wiki?test.html. So, there's two problems, first of all, I need it to be test.html (this is fairly trivial though to do in a different way), but the other problem is changing the links, is there any way to get it to link to test.html instead of wiki?test.html? |
| 05:30.10 | somiaj | diginet: are those really question marks or some character my machine can't see? |
| 05:30.18 | diginet | somiaj: really question marks |
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| 05:30.43 | diginet | it's a query string, but the question mark messes up the links on my local mirror |
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| 05:31.32 | somiaj | yea so the wiki is like a php (or some other script) with GET data, i.e. domain.com/page.html?options -- I know wget can set the name of the file you download, maybe you can do some regex with it |
| 05:32.03 | jmcnaught | jeuk_: good luck. if there are any files you're not sure whether they are safe to keep or not you could consider pasting it to a link and asking someone on IRC to take a look |
| 05:32.25 | somiaj | to change the links inside the files you get is a bit more troublesome, you will need a script to do that diginet, wget in essence just recives the info the webbrowers would then puts the html directally into a file. |
| 05:32.37 | jeuk_ | jmcnaught: thank you |
| 05:32.50 | jeuk_ | and thanks to the rest of you fellas, I got my USB image ready, going to re-install now |
| 05:33.55 | diginet | it's a query string basically |
| 05:34.11 | diginet | but it's messing up the linking |
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| 05:35.49 | somiaj | diginet: do you have any other access to this wiki than just http? It seems the way it is setup with its scripts wget may not be the best tool to mirror it |
| 05:36.26 | diginet | somiaj: unfortunately no :/ |
| 05:36.37 | somiaj | diginet: seems wegt has a --convert-links option that may help you |
| 05:36.51 | diginet | somiaj: unfortunately all that does is change the directory |
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| 05:37.55 | somiaj | diginet: I didn't see any wget native optoin that looked like it would do what you need, maybe a sed/rename script to go though and rename everything and change the links could work |
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| 05:38.17 | diginet | yeah |
| 05:38.20 | somiaj | or contact the owner of the wiki and see if they would share the actual database so you can just generate your own static image of it from that. |
| 05:38.28 | diginet | yeah, thanks |
| 05:38.30 | somiaj | static html page |
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| 05:39.22 | rmldotzero | Hi people, can someone help me with some issues with KDE on Debian Wheezy? |
| 05:39.26 | somiaj | lots of wiki's do give their source/database available in other means than via http, have you double checked they don't have a git/svn server with the actual source on it? |
| 05:39.53 | somiaj | rmldotzero: Just ask your question, if someone can help they usually speak up. |
| 05:40.30 | rmldotzero | I usually get very high temperature with a very basic use |
| 05:41.03 | rmldotzero | now it's aroud 60 C with only Iceweasel opened with freenode webchat |
| 05:41.34 | somiaj | rmldotzero: and you think this is unusual? When you run say top (or another cpu monintor tool) is your cpu constantally being used a lot? |
| 05:42.28 | somiaj | rmldotzero: I woudln't say this is a kde issue in specific but figure out what is actually using your cpu/heating it up. I wonder if you just don't have a accelerated graphics driver detected and kde is doing all of its efects via cpu use. |
| 05:42.47 | somiaj | rmldotzero: Have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what video drivers are actually being loaded on your system? |
| 05:43.57 | jmcnaught | diginet: it's kind of out there, but possibly you could setup Apache locally with mod_proxy pointed at the wiki you wish to mirror, use apache mod_rewrite to modify the filename part of the URLs, and run wget against the local apache? |
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| 05:44.17 | rmldotzero | in which line I can find this info? |
| 05:45.03 | diginet | jmcnaught: hmm, that's interesting |
| 05:45.29 | diginet | I think what I am going to do is something like, just download the files then use a sed script as somiaj suggested to do find and replace over all the files |
| 05:46.11 | rmldotzero | is it "LoadModule: "vesa"? |
| 05:46.27 | somiaj | rmldotzero: it is going to try to load various modules, keep going and you should see which one is actually being used |
| 05:46.57 | somiaj | rmldotzero: you could also type 'xvinf' or 'glxinfo' in a terminal to see what drivers are on your xv or glx setup |
| 05:47.32 | somiaj | rmldotzero: so just because it loaded vesa unless you see a lot of lines like (VESA) foo (giving you output from that driver) it means it is there but it found a better one to use |
| 05:48.51 | jmcnaught | diginet: yeah now that I think about it more my technique wouldn't be changing the links in the HTML anyways. sed sounds like the way to go |
| 05:49.19 | rmldotzero | http://paste.kde.org/pda7uwkyt result of glxinfo |
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| 05:50.14 | somiaj | looke like you have an integrated intel ivybridge graphics card? This sound correct rmldotzero ? |
| 05:50.25 | rmldotzero | yes |
| 05:50.55 | diginet | jmcnaught: do you know if there is a way to well, okay so the links will be in the form of href="wiki/wiki?pagename" what I want is to replace every instance of that to href="wiki/pagename.html" is that even possible? to take out something from the middle, and add something to the end? where the thing in the middle (pagname) is different for each instance? |
| 05:51.39 | somiaj | diginet: regex is very powerful, you can use blobs to match parts of stings and the likes and switch things around in various ways. I'm sure that is possible |
| 05:51.50 | diginet | somiaj: okay thanks |
| 05:51.54 | diginet | I'll research regex |
| 05:52.43 | somiaj | rmldotzero: well seems the intel drivers are properly loaded, not sure what coudl be causing the heat. |
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| 05:53.03 | jmcnaught | diginet: is the end goal to have a static copy of the wiki that you refresh periodically? or are you forking the wiki? |
| 05:53.42 | somiaj | rmldotzero: you can try to see if anything is using your cpu a lot and figure out what is causing it heat up. You could isntall a minimial windomanager along side of kde (like openbox), log into that and see if you get less heat maybe kde just uses to much cpu. |
| 05:53.42 | diginet | jmcnaught: the former, although I probably won't ever refresh it, or if I do, it will not be very often, it's just so I have an offline copy to read |
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| 05:55.02 | somiaj | rmldotzero: the only other thought I have is maybe there is some software tool that helps the laptop conserve more energy and thus not heat up that wasn't installed. I know there is a laptop task you should have selected when you installed that includes some things but I'm not that experienced with what would be the issue |
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| 05:56.31 | rmldotzero | somiaj: I'll look for it, I had installed Debian with a Live medium |
| 05:57.00 | rmldotzero | task-laptop is installed |
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| 05:57.37 | peterrooney | KDE. The definitive lightweight window manager. |
| 05:57.42 | rmldotzero | there's a package named laptop-mode-tools, should I install it? |
| 05:58.01 | adminewb | lesswatts.org has gone dark, that saves lots of power I expect :) |
| 05:58.11 | jmcnaught | diginet: it doesn't sound like it from the URLs, but if the remote wiki happens to be MoinMoin there's a way to synchronize two wiki instances. Maybe the wiki software used by the remote wiki has a similar feature |
| 05:58.36 | diginet | jmcnaught: it's actually WikiWikiWeb aka c2.com, the original wiki :P |
| 06:00.40 | rmldotzero | if can help, on KDE system monitor there is a "processor:100%" on the status bar |
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| 06:00.57 | somiaj | rmldotzero: what process? |
| 06:01.13 | rmldotzero | wait a sec, I'll post a shot |
| 06:01.21 | somiaj | rmldotzero: yuo can run top from a console to get a list of names/pids and amount of cpu usage |
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| 06:03.58 | rmldotzero | http://imgur.com/wfQASfZ there aren't any process at 100% but look at the status bar (at the bottom of the window) |
| 06:04.07 | rmldotzero | (is in Italian) |
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| 06:04.16 | KyokoDebian | :) |
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| 06:09.34 | rmldotzero | well thanks anyway, probably the issue is KDE itself |
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| 06:09.41 | rmldotzero | bye |
| 06:09.45 | somiaj | rmldotzero: well I see all four cours doing something, which means your corse dont' have a chance to idel which makes the cpu run hotter |
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| 06:09.59 | somiaj | s/cours/cores/ |
| 06:10.52 | ArujunX | Hello There!! can someone please tell me what are some web development tools available in Debian comparable to like Dreamweaver? |
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| 06:16.05 | ArujunX | Well nobody is answering. even there are 1435 people on the channel...depressing!!! |
| 06:16.30 | centrx | ArujunX, Freenode is more active during the daytime of America/Europe |
| 06:16.54 | centrx | ArujunX, You can do apt-cache search wysiwig (find out how to spell that properly) |
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| 06:17.13 | centrx | ArujunX, I know Libreoffice can export to HTML, but that's not nearly the same thing as Dreamweaver |
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| 06:17.33 | centrx | ArujunX, Otherwise, learning HTML is a valuable skill |
| 06:18.06 | jmcnaught | ArujunX: there isn't really a dreamweaver equivalent that I'm aware of. there are quite a few HTML editors you could check out in the repositories. I would suggest trying a regular text editor like Gedit or Kate and alt-tabbing to Iceweasel (and using Iceweasel's built in developer tools) |
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| 06:18.49 | ArujunX | Centrx yea, but dreamweaver is a powerful tool. <jmcnaught> thanks for advice |
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| 06:19.34 | centrx | Those tools seem to produce crap HTML that's bloated and uneditable, but I haven't used Dreamweaver in a long time |
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| 06:23.20 | ArujunX | <Centrx> so according to you, what is the best way to do HTML? |
| 06:23.37 | somiaj | ArujunX: don't bait answers, really there isn't a clear answer to your problem. Anyways found a forum discussion and my impression is you won't find anything as powerful as dreamweaver, but there are a few projects you could try |
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| 06:23.58 | somiaj | ArujunX: you could try wine or crossoveroffice (it may work better for dreamweaver) to run it. |
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| 06:25.09 | centrx | ArujunX, I would generate it programmatically using Rails or Django or a static site generator. Most websites nowadays you need to write some Javascript and backend code anyway, and integrating that with Dreamweaver-generated code would be a serious pain |
| 06:25.19 | jmcnaught | ArujunX: Iceweasel (firefox) developer tools are built-in to the browser and a huge help. Firebug is an addon worth checking out too |
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| 06:26.58 | CrumsOnTheFloor | any mpd + ncmpcpp user awake ? |
| 06:27.05 | jmcnaught | ArujunX: centrx has a very good point. Dreamweaver is obsolete tech if you ask me |
| 06:27.59 | jmcnaught | CrumsOnTheFloor: if they are they will answer your question if they see it. there's no need to ask if anyone is around |
| 06:28.59 | centrx | CrumsOnTheFloor, I think you asked about these technologies before. You'll probably have better luck if you formulate a complete question, not just "anyone who knows mpd + ncmpcpp <no further information>" |
| 06:29.13 | centrx | CrumsOnTheFloor, Also try again during America/Europe daytime |
| 06:29.15 | ArujunX | <Centrx> so you are suggesting i use web frameworks like Cakephp and ruby on rails to generate Code? |
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| 06:30.26 | jmcnaught | ArujunX: if you don't want/need a database backend like in cakephp or RoR, you could use a static site generator like Jekyll |
| 06:30.31 | centrx | ArujunX, Yes. Another technique is called "static site generator", which will output some HTML based on your code, if you don't need the overhead of a complete web framework |
| 06:30.39 | centrx | ArujunX, (e.g. http://jekyllrb.com/) |
| 06:30.41 | jmcnaught | heh sorry |
| 06:31.11 | centrx | oh wow |
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| 06:33.25 | ArujunX | <centrx> <jmcnaught> well thank you guys...:) |
| 06:34.30 | centrx | You are welcome |
| 06:34.59 | jmcnaught | ArujunX: no problem |
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| 06:54.34 | shawnbon206 | hello |
| 06:55.16 | TheQuestionmark | Hi. |
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| 06:56.15 | shawnbon206 | i just did a netinstall of debian to which i added MATE. there are no directories in the $HOME, am i supposed to just mkdir them? |
| 06:57.53 | shawnbon206 | The usual: ~/Downloads ~/Pictures ~/Templates ~/Public ~/Videos ~/Documents etc etc |
| 06:57.53 | TheQuestionmark | I suppose so. |
| 06:58.21 | TheQuestionmark | Not a big deal actually, I had Xfce on my systems before where they got created automatically. |
| 06:58.59 | TheQuestionmark | Maybe something for a feature-request. |
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| 07:12.47 | n3ptun | hello there.Using Debian Jessie and having problem with fortunes-debian-hints. The package is installed, but "/usr/games/fortune debian-hints" outputs a "fortune: no fortune found". It's not the first time I am using fortunes but on this machine the 1st time I get this error. All other fortunes I have installed work fine. Any clues? |
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| 07:13.29 | Nebukadneza2 | heho |
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| 07:14.24 | Walex | shawnbon206: those are not "the usual". |
| 07:14.42 | Walex | shawnbon206: except perhaps on Microsoft style operating systems. |
| 07:15.13 | Walex | shawnbon206: "the usual" are perhaps "src" "tmp" "bin" "share" "doc" "man" "lib". |
| 07:15.23 | Nebukadneza2 | there is linux-image-3.15-bla and linux-header-3.15bla in experimental, but no linux-kbuild-3.15 (on which headers depends....)? |
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| 07:15.27 | n3ptun | oh, I just found out by try: when I use the whole path for the debian-hints it works ==> "/usr/games/fortune /usr/share/games/fortunes/debian-hints" so this is a bug on this package "fortunes-debian-hints" ? All other fortune-packages work fine as used |
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| 07:17.14 | shawnbon206 | walex semantics |
| 07:17.32 | shawnbon206 | any gnome desktop have them |
| 07:17.36 | n3ptun | should I report that as a bug? |
| 07:17.42 | Walex | shawnbon206: exactly :-) |
| 07:18.05 | shawnbon206 | you think i came from a MS os ?? not a chance |
| 07:18.14 | shawnbon206 | been here the whole time |
| 07:18.34 | jmcnaught | Does LXC 0.8 in Wheezy have anything like the /etc/lxc/default.conf file in LXC 1.0? I'm trying to define a default network setup for every container that I create without having to modify the container's config file after it has been created. |
| 07:19.10 | Walex | shawnbon206: not you, but GNOME developers and sponsors :-) |
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| 07:20.30 | n3ptun | thanks for help |
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| 07:21.11 | CrumsOnTheFloor | Ok. So I have been trying like a madman to get my mpd + ncmpcpp rig going. What I percieve to be the issue is that my config might not be adequate. or the renowned "User/Server" change for mpd for Debian. Anyone with knowledge in the subject ? I'm kinda trapped with this issue after a couple of hours, would appreciate some input |
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| 07:21.25 | CrumsOnTheFloor | My database isn't updating |
| 07:22.07 | jmcnaught | shawnbon206: i guess the desktop environment you're using usually creates those directories. you could use /etc/skel if you want all new users to have them i guess. Checkout https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s10.7.5 |
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| 07:23.27 | shawnbon206 | i must be missing sone portion of debian |
| 07:24.37 | shawnbon206 | tasksel --list-tasks ... doesnt have important anymore |
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| 07:29.26 | tormen0815 | Hi, I have a BTS related question : There is a bug and its archived, and says, my version should work, but my version does not work. Do I reopen the bug or report a new one ? What is the common / right thing to do ? Thanks! |
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| 07:34.18 | tormen0815 | Btw, I had searched all instances of "[aA]rchiv" in here first : https://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 07:35.19 | Xgates | hi guys |
| 07:35.20 | tormen0815 | i saw someone using "Control: reopen -1", but I don't know if this is ok |
| 07:35.34 | tormen0815 | and girls |
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| 07:36.20 | Xgates | anyone know how to use qtchooser to switch qt versions? I'm reading the man but stuck on, -run-tool=tool run the selected tool, like what tool? |
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| 07:45.43 | jelly-home | tormen0815: reopen only if you're positive it's the very same bug, and not just something with similar or same symptoms. Otherwise file a new report and just make a reference to if possibly be similar to old bug number |
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| 07:46.02 | jelly-home | to it* be similar |
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| 07:46.40 | tormen0815 | jelly-home: Thanks !! ... ok, will reopen, because am sure... Is there a header to add a reference to the old bug ? |
| 07:47.22 | tormen0815 | Xgates: sounds to me like the qt tool you want to use ... so maybe qtchooser actually lets you choose the version on every run.... sort of thing (just an idea) |
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| 07:47.59 | Xgates | I'm playing with it, I just don't understand how you switch with it, man page not much help |
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| 07:51.05 | tormen0815 | Xgates: oehm, are you sure you need it ? ... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/qt ... read the Warning ;) |
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| 07:52.09 | tormen0815 | Xgates: anyway #qt might be a better place I think :) |
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| 08:01.11 | Kingsy | I am having problems getting nvidia drivers working on my machine... |
| 08:01.59 | Kingsy | I have installed nvidia-kernel-kms along with xconfig and nvidia-detect.. but its sitll not working |
| 08:02.12 | Kingsy | nvidia detect says --> Uh oh. Your card is not supported by any driver version up to 304.117. |
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| 08:03.36 | tormen0815 | Kingsy: ... did you try to see with #nvidia you might get better assistance over there. These types of problems are very specific to your hardware and driver versions used. |
| 08:04.17 | Kingsy | tormen0815: can I just use opensource? I am happy to do that. |
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| 08:11.56 | tormen0815 | Kingsy: for a while there was nvidia official and "nouveau", not sure if they might have merged in the meantime otherwise BOTH are of course a valid option for you (given any sort of /compatibility/ with your hardware) ... but I am /not/ an nvidia specialist ... just see if there is a #nouveau as well ;) |
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| 08:13.06 | lurtz_ | I have setup a ssh socks tunnel, via putty to a debian machine, I got this working on a box with pretty much straight forward settings. Though I dont get it to work on a box that has AllowedUsers settings, any ideas about why? |
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| 08:16.55 | Kingsy | tormen0815: looks like its the driver itself.. its too old for the card.. apparently there is a version 319.82 of the opensource driver in backports? |
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| 08:19.07 | Kingsy | tormen0815: actually looks like its the proprietry driver I need |
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| 08:19.48 | towo` | Kingsy, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+use+debian+backports |
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| 08:21.52 | tormen0815 | lurtz_: did you try (if you have access) starting the ssh server on a different port >1000 like so /usr/sbin/sshd -ddd -p 2222 and then try to connect, this should tell you whats your problem |
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| 08:23.45 | Kingsy | towo`: ok, so I added the backport to me sources.list. I am just trying to make sure 100% this isnt going to bork things --> would I now type --> apt-get -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-kernel-319.82 ? |
| 08:24.22 | lurtz_ | tormen0815: i got ssh running on another port than standard, but this is not the problem, tried with both 22 and other port |
| 08:24.28 | lurtz_ | tormen0815: Forwarded connection refused by server: Administratively prohibited [open failed] |
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| 08:24.38 | towo` | i would use apt-get -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-driver |
| 08:24.44 | lurtz_ | getting that in putty.log when trying with the box that has AllowedUsers in sshd_config |
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| 08:25.30 | Kingsy | towo`: there is no chance of this is there --> http://www.legendiary.at/2014/01/30/debian-testing-kernel-3-12-nvidia-dkms-319-82-breaks-xorg-nvidia-319-76-xserver-driver/ |
| 08:25.55 | Kingsy | oh unless thats a newer kernel |
| 08:26.41 | tormen0815 | lurtz_: putty = client, I am talking server |
| 08:27.19 | towo` | Kingsy, btw backports != testing |
| 08:27.39 | towo` | Kingsy, and the message is from januar 2014 |
| 08:28.14 | Kingsy | yeah I see.. ok I will give this a go I guess |
| 08:28.43 | Kingsy | if something goes wrong when I reboot how do I remove the package to roll back to opensource? --> apt-get -t wheezy-backports remove nvidia-driver <-- simply that? |
| 08:29.44 | towo` | Kingsy, apt-get purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/nvidia/{ print $2 }') |
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| 08:30.12 | towo` | Kingsy, and btw, you need a xorg.conf stanza for using the binary blob |
| 08:30.28 | Kingsy | towo`: is it not worth doing that before I install it in the first place? given I already had an older nvidia driver installed? |
| 08:30.59 | Kingsy | just to make sure there are not any older files hanging around... |
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| 08:31.47 | lurtz_ | tormen0815: ah lol, this gave some nice info! apparantly i missed AllowTcpForwarding no ;) |
| 08:32.08 | Kingsy | towo`: looks to me that it still has loads of old nvidia drivers --> glx-alternative-mesa* glx-alternative-nvidia* glx-diversions* libgl1-nvidia-alternatives* libgl1-nvidia-glx* libglx-nvidia-alternatives* libxvmcnvidia1* nvidia-alternative* nvidia-glx* nvidia-installer-cleanup* nvidia-kernel-common* nvidia-settings* nvidia-support* nvidia-vdpau-driver* xserver-xorg-video-nvidia* |
| 08:32.26 | tormen0815 | lurtz_: here you go :) |
| 08:32.28 | lurtz_ | tormen0815: this doesnt give any enhanced vuln possibilitys by setting this to yes right? |
| 08:33.08 | tormen0815 | lurtz_: benn there, done that ;) ... AllowTcpForwarding it does what it says, when you need it, turn it on ;) |
| 08:33.48 | Kingsy | towo`: reckon I should purge these before I start? |
| 08:34.06 | towo` | do whatever you want |
| 08:34.07 | lurtz_ | tormen0815: hehe :D so no worries about having this future enabled 24/7? except other users on box can use this as tunnel too ofc :P |
| 08:34.25 | Kingsy | towo`: well I am kinda asking for advice, I am not sure about this |
| 08:34.40 | lurtz_ | tormen0815: thanks for your help tho! :D |
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| 08:35.26 | Kingsy | towo`: also, what do you mean by a xorg.conf stanza? can I install nvidia-xconfig from backports and use that to create an xorg for me? |
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| 08:36.06 | tormen0815 | lurtz_: Hint: man sshd_config search AllowTcPForwarding. When it says "The default is “yes”." (like it does) you are good ;) |
| 08:36.11 | towo` | !nvidia dkms |
| 08:36.11 | dpkg | For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
| 08:36.12 | tormen0815 | lurtz_: ur welcome |
| 08:36.29 | lurtz_ | :D |
| 08:36.32 | towo` | Kingsy, mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 08:37.06 | towo` | Kingsy, don't use nvidia-xconfig, it's one of the most useless tool ever |
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| 08:37.50 | tormen0815 | jelly-home: It seems the way to go in this case is to use "found bugnumber version" (anyway even with unarchive, reopen, ... it still bounced 550 for me ;) |
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| 08:40.12 | tormen0815 | jelly-home: arg I am lost in the control headers |
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| 08:41.09 | Kingsy | towo`: and for My GPU you simply use "GT 630" ? or "GeForce GT 630" ? |
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| 08:42.07 | towo` | it doesn't matter, which words you write there |
| 08:42.10 | petern_ | Kingsy, doesn't matter |
| 08:42.37 | Kingsy | ah ok |
| 08:42.52 | markotitel | Is there any "apt failover" mechanism? If one repo is unreachable try next. |
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| 08:47.22 | Kingsy | towo`: E: Unable to locate package nvidia-driver |
| 08:47.24 | tormen0815 | Debian BTS question: Does one mail directly to control@bugs.debian.org and then explicitely state the bugnumber or rather mail to <bugnumber>@bugs.debian.org ? |
| 08:47.37 | towo` | Kingsy, apt-get update |
| 08:47.54 | Kingsy | yeah I did, I can see the backports in the update statement --> Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org wheezy-backports Release |
| 08:48.13 | towo` | Kingsy, nvidia is non-free |
| 08:48.15 | petern_ | You need to add non-free |
| 08:48.18 | Kingsy | ahhhh |
| 08:48.19 | Kingsy | sorry |
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| 08:48.27 | towo` | Kingsy, your sources need contrib and non-free |
| 08:48.50 | tormen0815 | Hi all. I would like to report a bug that is closed, marked as fixed and archived for the version I am using. What is the best way to do that ? |
| 08:48.54 | Kingsy | doing that now |
| 08:48.55 | Kingsy | sorry |
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| 08:49.36 | tormen0815 | ... I meant report that there seems to still be the (same) problem for a version that the BTS version tree shows as green and fixed... |
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| 08:51.08 | wald0 | where in wheezy is the right place to configure language and keyboard setting for that lightdm (or other login manager) uses it ? |
| 08:51.45 | towo` | wald0, dpkg-reconfigure keynoard-configuration |
| 08:51.48 | towo` | grr |
| 08:51.53 | towo` | wald0, dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration |
| 08:52.23 | tormen0815 | ... do I clone the old archived bug ? |
| 08:52.40 | tormen0815 | ... do I report a new one with the same settings? |
| 08:52.49 | tormen0815 | ... do I reopen / unarchive ? |
| 08:55.07 | tormen0815 | :( I tried the last option, the same way it already had worked for me, but I always get: 550 Unknown or archived bug |
| 08:55.19 | tormen0815 | this drives me crazy ;) |
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| 08:56.27 | tormen0815 | Also not clear: the "-1" is usually used to refer the the <bugnumber> that I send the mail to ? |
| 08:57.26 | petn-randall | tormen0815: Let's talk about the bug first, which one is it? |
| 08:58.25 | tormen0815 | https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting should really mention the case "what do to when the bug is closed or archived" |
| 08:58.28 | tormen0815 | petn-randall: ok :) |
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| 08:58.59 | tormen0815 | petn-randall: #730450 |
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| 08:59.11 | tormen0815 | petn-randall: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=730450 |
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| 08:59.48 | tormen0815 | petn-randall: I am trying to report a Control: found -1 24.5.0-1~deb7u1 |
| 09:00.08 | mepl_ | How can I move a folders content but not the folder itself? I tried mv /var/test/ /var/dest/ and it moves the entire folder test |
| 09:00.54 | tormen0815 | petn-randall: because I still get a "version xul24 not defined in file libxul.so with link time reference" |
| 09:00.56 | nkuttler | mepl_: mv foo/* bar/ |
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| 09:01.07 | shawnbon206 | hallo |
| 09:01.14 | tormen0815 | shawnbon206: moinsen |
| 09:01.40 | TheQuestionmark | Muh |
| 09:01.48 | tormen0815 | Kuh |
| 09:02.19 | SynrG | ,v icedove |
| 09:02.20 | judd | Package: icedove on i386 -- squeeze: 3.0.11-1+squeeze15; squeeze-security: 3.0.11-1+squeeze15; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 10.0.12-1; wheezy-security: 24.5.0-1~deb7u1; jessie: 24.5.0-2; sid: 24.5.0-2 |
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| 09:04.15 | SynrG | tormen0815: so it's a regression. in that case i would just file a new bug and xref to the old. |
| 09:04.16 | tormen0815 | SynrG: is that for me ? I am using : 2024.5.0-1~deb7u1 --> http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages |
| 09:04.31 | SynrG | it was for me, to understand the problem |
| 09:04.37 | SynrG | but yeah |
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| 09:04.53 | SynrG | i saw the version you reported above |
| 09:05.04 | tormen0815 | how does one xref (properly)? |
| 09:05.15 | tormen0815 | SynrG: ok :) |
| 09:05.26 | Kingsy | towo`: it worked perfectly |
| 09:05.35 | SynrG | you can either include a URL or just state the bug# |
| 09:05.46 | tormen0815 | ok, thanks! |
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| 09:07.39 | CrumsOnTheFloor | Question coming up: Can't get my mpd + ncmpcpp going. When I press 'u' it doesn't display the album I've put in the appropriate folder when in ncmpcpp. |
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| 09:10.24 | programmingnewb | can someone help me with iptables, do you see any fail entries? http://pastebin.com/i2dbGeFY |
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| 09:11.03 | petn-randall | programmingnewb: What are you trying to do? |
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| 09:11.37 | programmingnewb | I try to only let the important services through from outside |
| 09:12.20 | programmingnewb | what looks strange are the fail2ban entry I only want to have one, looks like after every reboot +1 entry goes to iptables entry |
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| 09:12.42 | petn-randall | programmingnewb: How are you generating those? |
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| 09:13.55 | programmingnewb | I only write it manually and then save it |
| 09:14.08 | programmingnewb | but fail2ban was added only once by me :( |
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| 09:14.34 | tormen0815 | SynrG: Trying with reportbug and telling him "icedove" it tells me: Your version (24.5.0-1~deb7u1) of icedove appears to be out of date. And lists unstable, but ... I am using the latest stable from security.debian (why) is reportbug not detecting that ? |
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| 09:15.17 | tormen0815 | feels like : Boohooo why is life so complicate ;) |
| 09:15.23 | shawnbon206 | why is icedove old as f |
| 09:15.27 | TheQuestionmark | For me iptables isn't working at all, so be happy if it does for ya. |
| 09:15.30 | shawnbon206 | even from sid |
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| 09:16.18 | shawnbon206 | whats seamonkey called again |
| 09:16.22 | shawnbon206 | iceape |
| 09:16.27 | CrumsOnTheFloor | iceweasel |
| 09:16.43 | CrumsOnTheFloor | shawnbon206: ? |
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| 09:17.16 | programmingnewb | oh ok also have problems with it :( thats bad TheQuestionmark |
| 09:18.21 | shawnbon206 | is there any apps which allow gnome shell style search on mate? |
| 09:19.04 | shawnbon206 | kinda like dwm but without showing everything executable in path |
| 09:19.20 | shawnbon206 | just gui app for the most part |
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| 09:19.30 | petn-randall | programmingnewb: Depending on how you configured fail2ban, it'll add that entry by itself. |
| 09:20.18 | petn-randall | programmingnewb: The default is to add an entry before the first one in the INPUT table. |
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| 09:20.57 | petn-randall | programmingnewb: btw, '-vn' are two options you want to use when you're looking at iptables output, otherwise you'll be missing important info. |
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| 09:26.26 | programmingnewb | hmm ok never told fail2ban to make new entries :( |
| 09:26.36 | programmingnewb | http://pastebin.com/kAjc0S3Z how I can delete these ones? |
| 09:26.41 | stormy3 | i've run out of space on a nas drive which is mounted, trying to rm stuff and it says it can't as out of space. How can i get around this :\ |
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| 09:28.31 | petn-randall | programmingnewb: Those are from the fail2ban chain, it'll delete them after the timer runs out. Again, you're missing out on important info without '-vn'. |
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| 09:29.14 | programmingnewb | hmm I tried to use iptables -vn but I got referred to help |
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| 09:30.26 | programmingnewb | I tried -Lvn too |
| 09:30.35 | programmingnewb | iptables: No chain/target/match by that name. |
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| 09:31.43 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 09:32.06 | ShapeShifter499 | who here has gotten some form of second life working in debian wheezy? I'm having a heck of a time |
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| 09:38.12 | petn-randall | programmingnewb: 'iptables -L -vn' |
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| 09:38.45 | petn-randall | programmingnewb: 'iptables -Lvn' means "show me the table with the name vn". |
| 09:39.21 | programmingnewb | ah thank you now I can see more yipi |
| 09:39.36 | ShapeShifter499 | nvm got it working |
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| 09:46.25 | gdm85 | petn-randall: so it's possible to specify where to put the iptables rule? |
| 09:46.29 | gdm85 | e.g. before-last, for example? |
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| 09:47.02 | petern_ | Use insert instead of add. |
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| 09:51.06 | programmingnewb | now after reboots it does not add any more fail2ban entries |
| 09:51.11 | programmingnewb | hope this was it |
| 09:51.17 | programmingnewb | strange behaviour of iptables |
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| 09:52.04 | CrumsOnTheFloor | Good evening fellow .debs ! I followed the installationguide for installing mpd + ncmpcpp thuroughly and still can't get it to work. I have prior to #! got it to work in Arch so I know the inner workings but can't locate the problem. Issue at hand is that I can't get ncmpcpp to recognize my music folder so I don't get any music playing. |
| 09:52.26 | programmingnewb | but thanks for the help :) |
| 09:52.33 | programmingnewb | hope it will work in future |
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| 09:56.24 | babilen | CrumsOnTheFloor: I would recommend to read the README.Debian of both mpd and ncmpcpp -- Can't walk you through it, but it really wasn't too hard to configure it. |
| 09:56.30 | babilen | (if they exist) |
| 09:56.43 | CrumsOnTheFloor | They don't unfortunately |
| 09:56.49 | babilen | sure? |
| 09:56.54 | CrumsOnTheFloor | positive |
| 09:57.14 | jack0912 | Hi guys, when I try to update my pakages I always get some errors, giving the command: nano /etc/apt/sorces.list, I get this: http://paste.debian.net/101359/ Can you check if there is some error in this files and their order that I have created? thanks |
| 09:57.22 | Want_to_be_geek | someone of you was using kalilinux maybe ? |
| 09:57.33 | babilen | CrumsOnTheFloor: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/mpd/filelist lists it |
| 09:57.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell Want_to_be_geek about kali |
| 09:58.10 | Want_to_be_geek | thanks :) |
| 09:58.17 | babilen | jack0912: That looks about alright, but I would remove the CD entry in there. |
| 09:58.19 | ChrisH | CrumsOnTheFloor: run /msg dpkg mpd |
| 09:58.40 | Pawnerd | Where do I find the kernel number of openvz for grub to boot it? (default=n, what is n?) |
| 09:58.42 | Want_to_be_geek | dpkg: tell Want_to_be_geek about gentoo |
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| 09:59.35 | jack0912 | babilen, are you talking about lines 3 and 5? |
| 10:00.55 | ChrisH | jack0912 pasting the errors you get might help more and yes comment out line 5 |
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| 10:03.41 | jack0912 | ChrisH, you are saying to remove just the line 5 and leave there line 3, right? |
| 10:04.30 | jack0912 | this are the error messages: http://paste.debian.net/101362/ |
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| 10:19.28 | ChrisH | jack0912: make sure a # is at the beginning of line 3 and 5 |
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| 10:22.19 | jack0912 | ChrisH, ok then I just will add a # on the line 5 |
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| 10:22.54 | jack0912 | ChrisH, because line 3 has it yet |
| 10:22.57 | ChrisH | jack0912: ACK. then run apt-get update again and if needed show the new messagesa gain |
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| 10:26.36 | jack0912 | ChrisH, seems impossible to modify lines in the terminal after the command: nano /etc/apt/sources.list, time ago an user allow me to edit it from the text notes, how to do it? I have mousepad because of xfce environment |
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| 10:27.22 | mrbang04 | good morning everybody! |
| 10:27.35 | ChrisH | jack0912: you need root permissions to edit that file... so sudo nano ... might help |
| 10:27.38 | TheQuestionmark | jack0912, You might wanna get used to root. |
| 10:28.03 | TheQuestionmark | Good after noon, mrbang04. |
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| 10:30.12 | jack0912 | the cursor is blocked on the beginning of the first line |
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| 10:32.59 | jack0912 | te curson can't be moved from the beginning of line 3 of terminal: http://paste.debian.net/101368/ |
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| 10:36.55 | musca | jack0912: did the terminal window loose the focus? |
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| 10:39.10 | halt | hi all, my question is quite generic in linux, but since I'm on debian ... so is that possible to have an group in a group ? I have a group called foo, and that has few members, but have an other group which should have all the members from the foo, so it would be easier if the group whould be a member of the group and the all the member of the group, if it was not to confusing ... |
| 10:40.22 | petn-randall | halt: nope. What are you trying to achieve, though? We might be able to help you with that. |
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| 10:41.19 | halt | put my custom group under tomcat7 group ( the company members are put under one group ) |
| 10:41.40 | CybDev | and what would that achieve? |
| 10:41.56 | petn-randall | halt: ... and what do you want to do with that? What's the ultimate goal? |
| 10:43.30 | jack0912 | musca, when it shows the gnu nano, lines are all coloured but is impossible do modify them, I can modify it just adding something on the first lines. My question is... how to open gnu nano in the text GUI? |
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| 10:44.34 | halt | petn-randall: provide access, to the logs files to webapps forler etc etc |
| 10:46.55 | poolson | any ipsec legends here ? |
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| 10:47.05 | poolson | need some help cofiguring strongswan |
| 10:47.25 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 10:47.27 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 10:48.27 | halt | CybDev: again the goal is to give access to some files which is owned by that goupd (tomcat7 ) and i do not what to give acces to others just the group |
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| 10:48.41 | petn-randall | halt: You have two options: Either you just everyone in that group, too (you could probably automate that), or you could use LDAP where you can inherit groups. |
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| 10:49.52 | halt | petn-randall: I laready manage the system with a config managment tool so automatization is not the issue, i just hoped there is a nicer way to do this |
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| 11:39.50 | kboy | I didn't find the distro testing and unstable on debian official website. where is it? |
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| 11:43.21 | Walex | kboy: they are archives, not distributions. The latest distribution is called Debian 7 (in the 'wheezy' archive). |
| 11:44.22 | kboy | Walex, ok thanks |
| 11:44.40 | Walex | kboy: if you install stuff from the 'testing' or 'unstable' archives you are effectively building your own distributions. Several groups indeed release distributions build from selected packages from 'testing' and 'unstable' archives. |
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| 11:45.43 | kboy | Walex: get it |
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| 11:46.17 | Walex | kboy: why are you interested in 'testing' and 'unstable'> |
| 11:46.20 | Walex | kboy: why are you interested in 'testing' and 'unstable'? |
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| 11:51.48 | kboy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:52.14 | bhuddah | !backports |
| 11:52.15 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 11:52.39 | Walex | kboy: that's how Debian 'stable' is designed: to guarantee compatibility to application developers. For people running long lived applications it is very important. |
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| 11:53.18 | Walex | kboy: the alternatives are as <bhuddah> suggests using "official" backports, or switching to one of the alternative distributions that care less about long term application compatibility. |
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| 11:54.09 | kboy | Walex: thanks guys |
| 11:54.19 | Walex | kboy: the "official" backports are usually a pretty good solution. For some common tools like iceweasel etc. there are special backport archives. |
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| 11:54.21 | Werke | Hi, How do i make sure a service/application restarts after time incase it got stopped by something? |
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| 11:55.12 | Walex | kboy: what most people here don't recommend is mixing binary packages from the 'testing' and 'unstable' archive into the base distribution, because that can break a lot of dependencies. |
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| 11:57.19 | Walex | kboy: as to stability consider IceWeasel: some people build XUL applications that they then run on thousands of desktops, which (probably) would break if IceWeasel had to be upgraded, because different versions of IceWeasel have different internal XUL APIs... |
| 11:57.41 | kboy | Walex: yes ok but there must be a way to have updated programs and still a stable Debian |
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| 11:58.33 | nkuttler | ,v iceweasel |
| 11:58.34 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2; wheezy-security: 24.5.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 24.5.0esr-1; sid: 29.0.1-1; experimental: 30.0~b5-3 |
| 11:58.37 | Walex | kboy: in part yes, indeed with backports. So for example for IceWeasel there is a special case: http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 11:58.53 | nkuttler | right, they have their own repo |
| 11:59.08 | somiaj | though security provides version 24esr which is actually fairly recent and will most likely have most the features youw ant. |
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| 11:59.33 | Walex | kboy: while more generally: http://backports.debian.org/ |
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| 11:59.36 | nkuttler | and why do you need the latest browser anyway? are you a web frontend dev? |
| 12:00.24 | ralix | I get when I try a davfs resource at login using libpam-mount getting the following error message: http://paste.debian.net/101363/ |
| 12:00.24 | ralix | I use to authenticate ldap. Can someone give me a hint what is going wrong. My config: http://paste.debian.net/101392/ |
| 12:00.47 | Walex | kboy: in general Debian try to stick to a 2-year release cycle, so usually only a few apps really need to be more recent than 2 years. |
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| 12:01.33 | Walex | kboy: the major example is indeed IceWeasel, because Mozilla tend to race ahead as fast as they can for various "political" reasons and they can't spare resouces for backwards compatiblity., |
| 12:01.34 | kboy | nkuttler: isn't a good thing to have programs without any bugs? Many people say yes if you want a secure computer |
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| 12:02.33 | nkuttler | kboy: what makes you think new software has no bugs? that's completely wrong |
| 12:02.45 | kboy | Walex: get it. |
| 12:02.47 | Walex | nkuttler: that's not a good reply. |
| 12:03.20 | nkuttler | Walex: if you don't like my reply give a better one and don't complain to me |
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| 12:04.08 | Walex | kboy: ironically many people think that 2 years is a bit too fast, thus the recent initiative to support Debian 6/Squeeze for some extra year or two. |
| 12:04.22 | kboy | nkuttler: no known bugs or at least not easily exploitable bugs |
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| 12:05.08 | Walex | kboy: "no" is a bit too strong. What most people aim realistically for is "major known bugs fairly quickly fixed". |
| 12:05.37 | Walex | kboy: the Debian Security team are miraculous and manage to do that year after year. |
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| 12:07.29 | kboy | Walex: get it |
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| 12:20.36 | peetaur2 | How can I get parted installed so my preseed "d-i partman/early_command string ..." can use it? |
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| 12:27.27 | lionrouge | hi |
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| 12:27.48 | lionrouge | tell me please: can Debian 7 run with kernel 2.6.x ? |
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| 12:29.52 | somiaj | lionrouge: why do you need that kernel? You realize 3.x is just the new number system? |
| 12:30.27 | lionrouge | nope |
| 12:30.33 | lionrouge | what is the numbering system? |
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| 12:31.14 | tremon | lionrouge: I'd say try and see. I'd expect it to work for custom/embedded setups, but udev might cause problems |
| 12:31.17 | somiaj | lionrouge: at about 2.6.39 the number system changed from the original version to just pushing a single branch |
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| 12:31.48 | somiaj | lionrouge: so 2.6.40 is actually 3.0, what would have been called 2.6.41 is 3.1, what would have been called 2.6.42 is 3.2, etc |
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| 12:32.31 | somiaj | lionrouge: i.e. as the develmopement of the kernel moved away from having a seperate unstale branch to develope, they changed the number system during some anveristy. |
| 12:32.45 | lionrouge | i see |
| 12:32.47 | lionrouge | thanks |
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| 12:35.51 | somiaj | lionrouge: so just run the 3.2 kernel that comes with wheezy, that way you ensure you get security support for it |
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| 12:36.32 | lionrouge | it will be a quite isolated system |
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| 12:37.46 | petern_ | Any particular reason why you want 2.6.x? |
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| 12:41.02 | lionrouge | old hardware |
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| 12:41.30 | lionrouge | with proprietary drivers |
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| 12:41.45 | tremon | peetaur2: I don't think you can, unless you manually fetch the udeb in your early command; there are no hooks that run between the loading of modules (like parted) and the base install |
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| 12:42.09 | tremon | Even then you might run into issues with disks not loaded/autodetected until after early_command |
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| 12:56.54 | peetaur2 | tremon: if I hit ctrl+alt+f2 to get a shell, is there a way to load the parted module? |
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| 13:13.28 | Nesh108 | hello there |
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| 13:13.57 | Nesh108 | I made a stupid mistake and I'd like to fix it. I basically put a script in /etc/init.d with a while true loop |
| 13:14.06 | Nesh108 | now the system doesn't boot up |
| 13:14.08 | Nesh108 | :( |
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| 13:14.42 | Brigo | Nesh108, boot it in rescue mode and delete or move it. |
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| 13:14.52 | Nesh108 | rescue mode |
| 13:14.58 | Nesh108 | alright, Im using a raspberry pi |
| 13:15.05 | Brigo | XD |
| 13:15.07 | Nesh108 | Im gonna search how to do it |
| 13:15.14 | petn-randall | !raspbian |
| 13:15.14 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 13:15.54 | Nesh108 | yawn, this is a debian related issue |
| 13:16.04 | Nesh108 | don't exclamation mark me, thank you very much. |
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| 13:17.44 | petn-randall | Nesh108: Then select single user mode from your grub prompt, and after login remove that init script. |
| 13:18.00 | themill | except that raspbian doesn't use grub. |
| 13:18.19 | petn-randall | Ouch, burn! |
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| 13:20.08 | jelly | welcome to embedded platform hell |
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| 13:20.16 | davis | hello |
| 13:20.21 | davis | what is the file that contains the list of runlevels? i thought it was something like /etc/inittab |
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| 13:24.40 | themill | davis: what are you really wanting to know? |
| 13:25.12 | Nesh108 | Im in safe mode and I can access /etc/init.d |
| 13:25.16 | Nesh108 | but I can't see the scripts |
| 13:25.19 | Nesh108 | is that normal? |
| 13:25.34 | Nesh108 | only rcS and vchiq |
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| 13:26.01 | themill | Nesh108: wrong channel -- we know nothing about raspbian's boot sequence (or arm stuff in general, it has to be said) |
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| 13:26.07 | Nesh108 | alright |
| 13:26.09 | Nesh108 | thanks |
| 13:26.15 | davis | themill: i'm trying to switch to single user mode to unmount my /home partiton to resize it. tellinit 1 simply shows X shutting down, but ALT-F1 never returns me to a virt console |
| 13:26.34 | themill | davis: in which release of debian? |
| 13:26.55 | davis | themill: i had used either ALT-F1 or ALT-F2 to switch to a virt terminal to issue telinit 1 as root user. |
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| 13:27.21 | everamzah | nic/save |
| 13:27.22 | davis | themill: sadly its ubuntu, not pure debian, but its a work machine and its what i have to use. |
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| 13:27.51 | themill | davis: ubuntu support is in #ubuntu. They might even know how their init system works. |
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| 13:28.13 | themill | (the chances of #debian knowing anything about upstart is 0) |
| 13:28.22 | davis | themill: yes, i know. i tried there, came here after no response. thanks for the help anyway |
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| 13:31.18 | sandman13 | what is linux header? |
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| 13:32.51 | Brigo | sandman13, a files needed to compile stuff againt linux kernel, for example, modules like nvidia. |
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| 13:33.49 | omid8bimo | hey huys, i was wondering if its possible to increase system's resolution via a software or something. is it possible? |
| 13:34.24 | chrisirc | Hello. How do I configure an ipv6 address *in addition* to an ipv4 address in /etc/network/interfaces? Bot man interfaces and the interwebs fail me to provide for an answer so far. |
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| 13:35.09 | mquin | chrisirc: you list the interface again, but with 'inet6' rather than 'inet' |
| 13:35.52 | lucido | inet6 will come to be |
| 13:35.57 | lucido | never* |
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| 13:39.34 | boudiccas | how do i get sound with playing "chocolate doom" please? i have it with mpd, and gnome-player, but not with doom |
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| 13:41.40 | domidebian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:42.38 | petn-randall | domidebian: Check the man page of ssh and the option -L. |
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| 13:43.45 | domidebian | petn-randall: i told the local connection to the remote port works well, so i think it is not a ssh problem |
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| 13:45.26 | domidebian | petn-randall: maybe you are right |
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| 13:56.44 | boudiccas | how do i get sound with playing doom please? i have it with mpd and everything else, but not with doom |
| 13:57.21 | chrisirc | mquin, thanks!, that worked. Arguably 'man interfaces' could be made explicit about this. |
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| 14:18.41 | codepython777 | Does anyone run services per user here on their boxes? (systemd perhaps)? |
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| 14:19.16 | ChrisH | !ask |
| 14:19.17 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:20.33 | codepython777 | ChrisH: if that was for me, How do I run user services on debian using systemd? |
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| 14:23.40 | lordcyfer | How to use dbconfig without any questions unsing default value i set in /etc/dbconfig-common/mysqlpkg.conf ??? |
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| 14:24.58 | petern_ | What's the 'usual' way to add secondary IP address to network/interface? Add an eth0:0 alias interface, or just add an "up ip addr add" line? |
| 14:25.00 | ChrisH | codepython777: I personally have no idea on systemd and never liked the idea of user-based stuff. Thats what I dislike at windows. |
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| 14:25.23 | Walex | boudiccas: depends on which Doom engine compatible implementation you are using. |
| 14:25.37 | petn-randall | petern_: I've always used the latter until now, but every time the question came up, the former was recommended. |
| 14:25.47 | Walex | boudiccas: and whether the Doom engine clone uses OSS-style audio or ALSA-style audio. |
| 14:26.00 | ChrisH | petern_: I do it that way: iface eth0:1 inet static |
| 14:27.05 | Walex | petn-randall: it is a controversial issue. Some people think that by using 'ethN:M' they can bring up/down each "interface". I am not sure that is possible or matters. |
| 14:27.07 | boudiccas | Walex; i've tried chocolate-doom, prboom, prboom-plus, and freedoom and i have no sound in any of them |
| 14:27.25 | Walex | boudiccas: probably they all use old-style OSS. Check the docs. |
| 14:27.31 | boudiccas | k ta |
| 14:28.13 | Walex | boudiccas: if they do you can either use the deprecated OSS-ALSA modules or the OSS module of PulseAudio if you use it. |
| 14:28.14 | petern_ | chocolate-doom uses SDL_mixer |
| 14:28.26 | petern_ | so however that can be configured |
| 14:28.36 | petern_ | for me it "just works" through pulseaudio |
| 14:28.38 | Walex | 'SDL_mixer' indeed can be configured somewhere. |
| 14:28.48 | petern_ | environment variables i think :) |
| 14:28.50 | ChrisH | I just checked ifup|down eth0:5 does bring up/takes down an IP as expcted even if eth0:1-4 are not configured |
| 14:29.11 | Walex | ChrisH: I am not sure what happens to the others that are configured. |
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| 14:29.43 | ChrisH | Walex: eth0 stayed up... I was connected via eth0 |
| 14:30.12 | petern_ | ohh |
| 14:30.16 | petern_ | I added it as eth0:1 |
| 14:30.20 | petern_ | did ifup eth0:1 |
| 14:30.26 | petern_ | and ... it added the ip address to eth0 |
| 14:30.56 | Walex | petern_: that may be because the rules for stanzas in 'interfaces' are peculiar |
| 14:31.19 | jelly | petern_: that's how ip "aliases" work, yes. |
| 14:31.20 | Walex | petern_: you know the 'ifup IFNAME=INTERFACE' story |
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| 14:31.35 | petern_ | right0 |
| 14:31.38 | petern_ | righto even |
| 14:31.53 | petern_ | jelly, i didn't check ifconfig, indeed. separate there. |
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| 14:31.54 | ChrisH | petern_: can you show me: cat /etc/network/interfaces ; ifconfig -a ; ifup ethX:y ; ifconfig -a ; as one paste on paste.debian.net please? |
| 14:31.55 | Walex | I try not to rely on moderately obscure details... |
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| 14:34.44 | jelly | having multiple ip addresses on a single interface isn't really that obscure |
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| 14:35.27 | abrotman | Nor difficult? |
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| 14:36.11 | petern_ | Mind you, I wonder how much stuff doesn't support SNI these days. |
| 14:36.27 | petn-randall | I guess another "advantage" of aliases is that they work with the old school ifconfig. |
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| 14:36.58 | petn-randall | petern_: Mostly legacy clients, e.g. old IEs and old android versions. |
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| 14:39.38 | jelly | and Debian 5! |
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| 14:43.28 | lordcyfer | nobody to help me ? |
| 14:43.33 | lordcyfer | How to use dbconfig without any questions unsing default value i set in /etc/dbconfig-common/mysqlpkg.conf ??? |
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| 14:45.45 | sandman13 | is python3 included by default in Debian 7's installation? |
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| 14:47.38 | Walex | lordcyfer: 'dbconfig'? 'debconf'? |
| 14:47.52 | lordcyfer | Tjhey are brother |
| 14:48.06 | lordcyfer | it is for my postgresql or mysql |
| 14:48.12 | lordcyfer | in my case |
| 14:48.23 | lordcyfer | My default value are good |
| 14:48.40 | lordcyfer | if i answer yes at the 3 questions it is perfect |
| 14:49.07 | peetaur2 | lordcyfer: install one time with questions, then debconf-show <packagename>, then in the future, you can debconf-set-selections <<< "packagename key value" (eg. debconf-set-selections << "postfix postfix/mailname string www.yoursite.com" |
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| 14:49.09 | lordcyfer | but i don’t manage to have the same setting in the noninteractive mond |
| 14:49.17 | b0t | hello i have a problem |
| 14:49.19 | b0t | a error |
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| 14:49.31 | b0t | adnscheck.o adnsevent.o adnsg../lib/.libs/libneostats.so: undefined reference to `SSLv2_client_method' |
| 14:49.44 | lordcyfer | peetaur2: i’ll try that right now to see |
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| 14:50.03 | Walex | b0t: SSLv2 is deprecated... |
| 14:50.20 | b0t | ok, how to fix the error? |
| 14:50.38 | Walex | b0t: make sure that the stuff you are compiling does not use it. |
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| 14:51.47 | msl09 | how do I compile some C code when I don't have the proper dependencies? |
| 14:52.08 | msl09 | and the debian repositories only have outdated versions of the libraries |
| 14:52.11 | b0t | ok check pls, http://pastebin.com/irheDk5H |
| 14:52.24 | rom1504 | msl09: you can get the libraries and compile then |
| 14:52.25 | b0t | which are not used |
| 14:52.31 | peetaur2 | msl09: you need magic I think |
| 14:52.37 | rom1504 | if they have dependencies, compile then and so one |
| 14:52.42 | rom1504 | magic is good too :D |
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| 14:53.29 | msl09 | rom1504 exactly but where do I put those libraries so they are visible to the program I'm trying to compile? |
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| 14:54.08 | peetaur2 | msl09: in a lib dir somewhere, or export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= ... (point to where you stuck them) |
| 14:54.29 | peetaur2 | also for runtime, that env variable has to be set |
| 14:54.31 | msl09 | hmm |
| 14:54.42 | rom1504 | yeah |
| 14:54.45 | lordcyfer | peetaur2: now that i have my values i see little * in front of the value that has been ask during the conf |
| 14:54.46 | peetaur2 | so shoving it in /usr/lib is easier even though that is officially wrong |
| 14:55.06 | lordcyfer | my real question is wher or how do i set that in my debian package |
| 14:55.16 | b0t | 80 views and 0 answers? |
| 14:55.20 | b0t | very nice |
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| 14:56.02 | msl09 | yeah I think that would overwrite some of my libraries from stable peetaur2 |
| 14:56.05 | lordcyfer | with the pkg_name.templates ? |
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| 14:59.27 | b0t | helloooooooo |
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| 15:02.11 | knoppix | hello channel, I have a samsung n130 netbook, I am thinking of installing debian on it, it is a 32bit intel atom processor 1600hz. does anyone know if there would be any problems in installing debian on this machine ?? |
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| 15:04.09 | petn-randall | b0t: Your chances for an answer won't increase if you act like that. What does the README of NeoStat say what the minimum requirements are? |
| 15:05.16 | rom1504 | msl09: there is /usr/local/lib too msl09 |
| 15:05.32 | rom1504 | but I think it's better to put these things in /home/user/local/lib |
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| 15:05.43 | b0t | not say nothing petn-randall |
| 15:05.45 | rom1504 | so you can do ./configure --prefix=/home/user/local when compiling |
| 15:05.48 | petn-randall | b0t: SSLv2 is also very old, and obsolete. The NeoStat project needs to update the code to work with v3, since v2 isn't shipped in any distro anymore AFAIK. |
| 15:05.49 | msl09 | I see |
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| 15:06.10 | rom1504 | then make and make install will work fine |
| 15:06.19 | msl09 | awesome |
| 15:06.33 | b0t | I fix it, I need to do |
| 15:06.56 | b0t | is the last version of neostats |
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| 15:07.30 | b0t | I can modify the code of the so archiv |
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| 15:08.33 | petn-randall | b0t: Ehm, neostats is long dead, better take something that has some kind of security support. |
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| 15:09.11 | b0t | NeoStats has bots and connectserv and limitserv |
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| 15:09.52 | b0t | limitserv, autolimite the channel +5, and connectserv display all connections |
| 15:09.58 | petn-randall | b0t: Either way, neostats is not in Debian and thus offtopic. |
| 15:10.28 | b0t | then why do not you shut up? |
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| 15:10.49 | petn-randall | b0t: Do you need any help with your Debian installation? |
| 15:11.03 | b0t | yes |
| 15:11.24 | petn-randall | b0t: And your question was? |
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| 15:11.36 | b0t | I need help with installation NeoStats on DEBIAN |
| 15:11.40 | b0t | ok |
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| 15:11.45 | b0t | how to fix the error |
| 15:11.47 | b0t | ? |
| 15:12.05 | b0t | /lib/.libs/libneostats.so: undefined reference to `SSLv2_client_method' |
| 15:12.08 | petn-randall | b0t: I already told you, neostats is old and doesn't compile under Debian, because it uses obsolete libraries. |
| 15:12.21 | petn-randall | b0t: Either you learn C and fix it yourself, or you use something else. |
| 15:12.22 | b0t | you are expert, tell me |
| 15:13.17 | linuxthefish | is bug! :(( |
| 15:13.18 | b0t | I have installed NeoStats 2.5 on debian |
| 15:13.18 | linuxthefish | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 15:13.27 | b0t | .c |
| 15:14.27 | petn-randall | b0t: Problem solved! Apparently you installed it. |
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| 15:14.50 | b0t | http://forum.kimsufi.com/showthread.php?11204-eureur |
| 15:15.06 | lordcyfer | peetaur2: I now only havce one question |
| 15:15.06 | b0t | http://anebg.net/2012/01/25/lib-libslibcurl-so-undefined-reference-to-sslv2_client_method/ |
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| 15:15.14 | petn-randall | !ops b0t |
| 15:15.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: b0t |
| 15:15.25 | lordcyfer | do you want to let dbconfig configure your database |
| 15:15.43 | b0t | !ops petn-randall |
| 15:15.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: b0t complains about: petn-randall |
| 15:15.53 | b0t | !friki petn-randall |
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| 15:16.42 | jelly | slow jelly is slow |
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| 15:19.00 | petn-randall | jelly: No prob, thanks. |
| 15:19.52 | jelly | linuxthefish: which command says that, and which debian release? |
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| 15:20.59 | linuxthefish | 7.5 32bit :( |
| 15:21.10 | linuxthefish | when apt-get install something on defualt install |
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| 15:21.31 | wols | !locale |
| 15:21.31 | dpkg | A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale |
| 15:21.40 | wols | !locales |
| 15:21.40 | dpkg | Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. See also <mac locales>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 15:21.48 | linuxthefish | oh, thanks |
| 15:21.55 | petn-randall | linuxthefish: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales' usually fixes that problem for me. |
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| 15:46.15 | tharkun | How am I supposed to tell aptitude/apt that I am searching for a lightweight browser? I really don't care if it uses WebKit or not. |
| 15:46.39 | mdel | huh |
| 15:49.32 | SynrG | debtags to the rescue? |
| 15:49.42 | wols | tharkun: midori |
| 15:50.07 | SynrG | but "lightweight" is by no means a term with a universally accepted meaning |
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| 15:50.10 | wols | apt-cache search browser |grep web |
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| 15:51.42 | wibrt | does anyone know of a free software program on debian to play all media (movies and pictures) as a slideshow+movie? (i only found voya media, not part of the repo) |
| 15:51.55 | SarahC | hi everyone! do i limit myself if i try to use debian as a desktop os or does it work just like any other linux distro? :) |
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| 15:53.30 | jhutchins | SarahC: It's a good desktop if you use your computer for other work rather than just messing with the computer. |
| 15:53.42 | wibrt | sarah: depends, debian stable testing or.. (stable=is stable, but has older versions of some software), for desktop i would say: if u prefer newer software (use unstable) but it's unstable |
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| 15:54.37 | blue_sky | SarahC: Debian is not cutting edge, it is rock-solid stable. If you want to 'get stuff done' then it's probably one of the best. If you want every whizz-bang latest feature then you may want a different distro. |
| 15:54.38 | wibrt | sarah: as jh says, it depends on what u want to do |
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| 15:55.18 | tharkun | wols: I've been using midori for some time now but its development seems somehow stalled. It has had a vew bugs that haven't been addressed ... |
| 15:55.20 | centrx | !sns |
| 15:55.20 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 15:57.06 | tharkun | SarahC: Computers in general but Linux in particular are purpossed built machines. You can make your desktop do stuff you wouldn't believe but then what do you want to do with it. |
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| 15:59.44 | oo_miguel | does the debian installer support, installing on a lvm over a raid1? |
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| 16:00.00 | epsilon | yes |
| 16:00.02 | tharkun | yes, it is transparent to it |
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| 16:00.30 | oo_miguel | epsilon, tharkun: thank you. but do I need to set up my raid and lvm in advance, or can this be done BOTH in the installer? |
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| 16:00.55 | SynrG | i think saying "Debian is not cutting edge" is selling ourselves short. more accurately "Debian stable, by design, does not change for long periods of time" and then the spiel about backports and ssb :) |
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| 16:01.19 | tharkun | oo_miguel: It is a bit tricky since those are not common options but it can be done. |
| 16:01.24 | epsilon | you can convert a running system into lvm/raid, if you have spare disk |
| 16:01.28 | centrx | even that can be misleading since the major browsers are updated and there are other backports |
| 16:01.47 | SynrG | true |
| 16:01.53 | epsilon | but if you have the option, do it during the first install |
| 16:01.55 | SarahC | jhutchins: i dont like messing with my computer :p -- wibrt: i would never use unstable no matter what -- blue_sky: i dont want any of the new crap so that sounds great -- tharkun: just the regular stuff :) |
| 16:02.11 | oo_miguel | epsilon: thats in fact exactly what I want to do. however I thought installing from scratch would be easier |
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| 16:04.12 | blue_sky | SarahC: I've been using Debian for about 12 years, mostly for servers, but it was my desktop for about 5 years too. I never had a crash or unexpected reboot apart from power failure. With debian 'stable' really means stable. |
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| 16:05.13 | Walex | blue_sky: but the "stable" really means "stable APIs", and stability in the sense of reliability is just a bonus. |
| 16:05.36 | Martin_vW | When I run `aptitude dist-upgrade`, aptitude will resolve broken dependencies (for example: a depends on b (>> 2), but only b 1.0 is available) by removing the package whose dependency can't be fulfilled. Is there any way I can change this behaviour? I don't want the package to be removed, instead I just want that aptitude skips the update and leaves the old version of a installed until the issue is fixed in the repository. |
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| 16:06.01 | Walex | Martin_vW: mark it as such |
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| 16:06.11 | Martin_vW | Walex: how? |
| 16:06.14 | somiaj | Martin_vW: if you have issues like that it is because you are mixing sources and aptitude can't figure out what to do |
| 16:06.32 | npic | Martin_vW: google "apt pinning" maybe? |
| 16:06.35 | somiaj | Martin_vW: are you mixing sources from various release, etc, wantt o share your 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
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| 16:06.49 | Walex | Martin_vW: but note that automatic package dependency resoution is designed precisely to do that you are objecting to, as <somiaj> hints |
| 16:07.23 | Walex | Martin_vW: you can ping the package as suggested, or use the Aptitude curses mode to mark the package as keep-it-like-this |
| 16:07.29 | Martin_vW | No, the issue is that we are hosting our own repository and sometimes we want to update two packages, where a depends on the most recent version of b, but we accidentally released only a and forgot b. This will cause all affected servers to remove a which makes such a mistake pretty bad. |
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| 16:07.51 | Martin_vW | I was hoping that I could adapt our update script so that such a mistake won't have immediate consequences. |
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| 16:09.06 | somiaj | Martin_vW: well you just pointed out were the error is, the repo you are using. |
| 16:09.22 | oo_miguel | I will give it a try, thank you tharkun and epsilon |
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| 16:09.34 | somiaj | Martin_vW: you might be able to pin your repo lower than the offical debian ones in such a way that it will leave things alon during a upgrade. |
| 16:10.00 | boodie | Hi (this might be slightly OT): I have CUPS on Debian Wheezy, and a Win7 laptop connected to the same router. When I launch a print from a MS WORD or EXCEL (from the Win7 client), I get the print, but when I try the same in Acrobat (or other programs, such as freemind), nothing gets printed. I suspect it has to do with Java ... any hints? |
| 16:10.07 | Martin_vW | somiaj: no, this has nothing to do with official Debian packages, only our own packages |
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| 16:10.51 | SarahC | blue_sky: awesome! |
| 16:10.57 | somiaj | Martin_vW: excatly that is what I ment, you have a poor quality repo. Maybe pinning would work to ensure that when your servers automatically upgrade they leave your custom packages alone and don't remove them |
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| 16:11.54 | Martin_vW | somiaj: we manage our repository with reprepro. Is there a better tool available, or are we just using it wrong? Is there a way to get reprepro to warn us when we're about to release a package with unfulfillable dependencies? |
| 16:12.02 | somiaj | Martin_vW: but when there is an error like that it is because aptitude can't figure out what to do, or figures out what to do differently than you want. You could try apt-get or the likes as well. |
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| 16:13.18 | somiaj | Martin_vW: i'm not familar with the differnt tools. My random internet advise is may have a test repo that you update/test before making the changes to your repo go live. |
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| 16:13.51 | npic | Martin_vW: why don't you update package B then? |
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| 16:14.41 | somiaj | npic: sounds like it is an error/bug but this seems to have consquences on his servers updating before they catch it. |
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| 16:15.02 | somiaj | npic: i.e. it was a mistake that the package was missing. |
| 16:15.31 | dondelelcaro | Martin_vW: AFAIK, you'll have to use better tools, like dak with things like britney or similar in order to determine that |
| 16:15.40 | somiaj | I'm unsure what tools the offical debian repos use to check everything, but I think they do have some automatic tools to check the state of the repo for stuff like that. |
| 16:16.03 | Martin_vW | npic: we do usually, but there are possible situations where it goes wrong. For example, we usually release new updates in a "testing" dist first that only very few servers use, so that we see errors very early before they affect all servers. But then sooner or later, the packages have to be copied from testing to stable to release it for all servers. If I copy package a but accidentally forget b, then I'll cause all stable servers to remove a. |
| 16:16.08 | dondelelcaro | Martin_vW: figuring out if everything is potentially installable is actually pretty difficult, and Debian actually only checks to make sure it was installable at some time before promoting things to the next repository |
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| 16:16.37 | Martin_vW | OK, thanks for the suggestions; I'll look into other repository management tools |
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| 16:17.08 | Martin_vW | It's actually not that big of a problem and hasn't happened for some time, but I was curious if there was an easy fix that could prevent it from ever occuring again :) |
| 16:17.11 | dondelelcaro | Martin_vW: the solution to that particular problem that you're having is not to copy package a, but to instead, change the symlink which points at your current "stable" to point at your new "testing" |
| 16:17.11 | Martin_vW | bye |
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| 16:17.41 | dondelelcaro | (which, not surprisingly, is how Debian does it) |
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| 16:20.42 | npic | Are there somebody who use LXC? I'm trying to setup an unprivileged container, but I can't run it. Is there a good and up-to-date manual for debian (stgraber's blog is way too ubuntu-specific)? |
| 16:20.46 | jbutler | running grub-install <device> should automagically be using /boot/grub/grub.conf right? |
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| 16:22.36 | jbutler | my mind is blown, I had dualboot windows 8 and debian on this system for like a year I come home today and windows 8 is missing on grub, I have reinstalled grub on every device and even reinstalled windows 8 and it still doesn't show up. The disk tests out fine, I must be doing something incredibly wrong. |
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| 16:23.55 | npic | jbutler: you do use grub-efi, don't you? |
| 16:24.27 | jbutler | that is what I am thinking cause no matter what disk I boot from its the same grub |
| 16:24.48 | jbutler | err I have no idea |
| 16:24.51 | jhutchins | jbutler: You need to run update-grub to re-detect windows. |
| 16:24.54 | jbutler | Im old school |
| 16:25.13 | jhutchins | jbutler: reinstalling just re-writes the MBR (or EFI equiv.). |
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| 16:25.31 | jbutler | ah thats right |
| 16:25.43 | jhutchins | jbutler: It has no knowledge of the OSs installed, that's all in grub.conf |
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| 16:25.59 | jbutler | windows 8 WAS in grub.conf thou |
| 16:26.30 | jbutler | ill try just update-grub the grub-install <device> , that should do it? |
| 16:26.32 | teraflops | jbutler: or install os-prober |
| 16:26.42 | jbutler | yes os-prober was detecting it |
| 16:26.52 | jbutler | and it was in /boot/grub/grub.conf |
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| 16:27.00 | jbutler | prior to me running grub-install |
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| 16:27.51 | npic | jbutler: AFAIK grub-install "device" won't work on a EFI machine |
| 16:28.17 | teraflops | why? |
| 16:28.42 | blue_sky | npic: tell me about it, can't boot my MacMini into OS X any more? still, no loss, I've got Debian on it now |
| 16:28.59 | jbutler | Why would it disappear from my grub menu when its been fine for months |
| 16:29.17 | jbutler | that is what confuses me |
| 16:29.20 | teraflops | jbutler: run grub-mkconfig -o ... |
| 16:29.57 | jhutchins | jbutler: YOU DON'T NEED GRUB INSTALL. |
| 16:30.17 | jhutchins | jbutler: If you're seeing grub at boot, grub is already installed, reinstalling won't change anything. |
| 16:31.31 | npic | blue_sky: I'm not claiming that grub doesn't work with efi at all. I may be wrong, but the actual command to install grub isn't "grub-install device". |
| 16:31.36 | jbutler | update-grub is what actually updates from grub.conf right? |
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| 16:32.23 | gdm85 | how can I run a script non-interactive e.g. no stdin |
| 16:32.38 | jhutchins | jbutler: Right. |
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| 16:33.04 | jbutler | alright thanks a lot, I am going to try it now |
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| 16:39.19 | blue_sky | npic: all I know is, grub wrote over my MBR, it says it can boot OS X 32bit and OS X 64 bit but it just hangs if I try. May investigate at another time, but it's no loss to me just now. |
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| 16:40.52 | Taroven | Got some odd stuff going on with a Debian Kit install on a Dell Venue 7 that was working great before an Android update... Can't add users or groups (groupadd: failure while writing changes to /etc/group), and attempting to change the root password results in " passwd: u:r:init:s0 is not authorized to change the password of root". whoami definitely thinks I'm root... Anyone have an idea? |
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| 16:44.39 | Walex | Taroven: that does not sound Debian-related more Android/DebianKit related |
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| 16:48.37 | Taroven | Walex: Agreed, but I'll take help where I can get it. There's not a huge support base for this kind of thing, and forums are slow. |
| 16:53.14 | Walex | Taroven: regrettably if it is not "Debian" it is offtopic here and this channel usually is fairly strict about that. |
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| 16:54.01 | Walex | Taroven: as well being rather unlikely that there are people that are that familiar with rooting Android here. |
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| 16:55.51 | Taroven | Walex: No worries. I'm looking into alternatives at the moment. |
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| 16:56.49 | gdm85 | does anybody know how to make openssl (ugh..) certificate signining non-interactive? I'd like to enter automatically the password |
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| 16:57.15 | Walex | gdm85: if the signing key is available there is no need to decryp it. |
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| 16:57.31 | gdm85 | Walex: available? as in? |
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| 16:57.41 | Walex | gdm85: as in the key without encryption. |
| 16:58.04 | gdm85 | Walex: unfortunately I didn't manage to create the CA key without a password. I guess it can be done by editing properly openssl.cnf? |
| 16:58.06 | Walex | gdm85: the password that certificate signing requires is that for the signing key. |
| 16:58.17 | gdm85 | yes |
| 16:58.34 | Walex | gdm85: you can always remove the encryption from the key. Then you secure it some other way. |
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| 17:06.15 | catern | trying to reinstall web-application-that-needs-a-database tt-rss, but dbconfig isn't creating the database it wants. the first time I installed it it prompted me for info for the database, but I entered a wrong password then aborted. it's not prompting me for that anymore, and the database still doesn't exist. how can I force dbconfig or debconf or foo to make the database? |
| 17:06.34 | catern | tried clearing debconf, but didn't help |
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| 17:15.43 | catern | or rather, I want to tell dbconfig that a database that it thinks exists, doesn't exist |
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| 17:16.53 | catern | apt-get purge worked! nvm! |
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| 17:47.10 | malmelmil | Hello everybody, does anybody have any experience with debian on an Acer Aspire V7 -581g-53338g52akk ? thank you |
| 17:47.50 | mtn | !ask |
| 17:47.50 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 17:48.34 | malmelmil | mtn is the info directed to me ? |
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| 17:48.55 | mtn | malmelmil: yes, of course |
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| 17:49.51 | malmelmil | Ok, I probably was not clear, I am looking for general experience with debian on an Acer Aspire V7 -581g-53338g52akk, because I am planning to buy one maybe. I am looking for possible problems, reccomendations and general usability. Thank you. Is it better like this ? |
| 17:50.35 | aguitel | what the best to install ,google-chome or chromium ? |
| 17:50.48 | SynrG | malmelmil: your request is so overly specific as to select against anyone helping except one who owns your exact model |
| 17:51.03 | mtn | malmelmil: yes, that is better. I would recommend using a search engine on that model and debian, or linux, and see what turns up |
| 17:51.06 | petn-randall | Hi malmelmil, in general the easiest and most reliable way to know is to prepare a Debian live USB stick, and boot the machine from it. Info on the internet may be outdated or wrong, so that's the best way. |
| 17:51.07 | SynrG | malmelmil: this is a low-chanc-of-success strategy for getting help (at least on irc) |
| 17:51.14 | SynrG | chance* |
| 17:51.46 | mtn | aguitel: chromium is in the debian repos, so it is easiest and supported |
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| 17:52.10 | npic | malmelmil: find out what hardware is inside the laptop and google for the support in the kernel |
| 17:52.10 | SynrG | malmelmil: we can answer questions about specific hardware that this model includes. bonus points if you can quote the pciid of specific hardware it includes. |
| 17:52.17 | aguitel | mtn, i an using squeeze ,chromium is old version |
| 17:52.40 | mtn | aguitel: yes, that is what happens when you use old-stable |
| 17:52.59 | malmelmil | Thank you all for your reccomendations and advice, I'll attempt as you suggest. |
| 17:53.11 | aguitel | coz i am using gnome2 |
| 17:53.23 | malmelmil | Will keep googling, prepare specific hardware and ask around again, thanks, |
| 17:53.43 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Can you get your hands on the hardware for testing? |
| 17:54.36 | mtn | aguitel: if you were running wheezy, your chromium would be pretty uptodate. |
| 17:54.55 | aguitel | i know |
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| 17:55.39 | malmelmil | petn-randall I don't think they'll let me on the store, I can buy it and try it for 7 days but I have a handful of models on sight and would like to google and ask around a bit for a first selection |
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| 18:01.11 | petn-randall | malmelmil: As long as it doesn't have GMA500 and it's not brand new, it'll likely work out of the box. |
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| 18:02.33 | malmelmil | it seems a bit brand new hehe |
| 18:02.38 | malmelmil | GMA500 ok |
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| 18:03.11 | malmelmil | thanks |
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| 18:05.25 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Brand new in the sense of what type of chips are manufactured in. If you can't test the hardware, you second best bet is to google model + "linux" or "debian", and check any reviews of installing Linux on it. Take close attention to the date though, and which kernel version they used. |
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| 18:06.35 | malmelmil | petn-randall ok I am doing this, good advice on dates and kernel, thank you; I am seeing that the Geforce GT 720M is or has been problematic on wheezy |
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| 18:06.59 | DammitJim | what is a quartz scheduler? |
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| 18:09.10 | DammitJim | and why would a trigger get blocked? |
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| 18:12.20 | malmelmil | thanks again for advice, ta! |
| 18:12.24 | petn-randall | DammitJim: It's not really Debian related, you might have more luck on #hardware |
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| 18:12.54 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Not sure; good luck with your hunting! |
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| 18:13.20 | malmelmil | :) |
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| 18:17.38 | abrotman | looks at idoru |
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| 18:23.14 | threexk | hello. Is adding an entry to /etc/fstab the proper way to automatically mount a network drive? |
| 18:23.52 | threexk | I would like a NAS to be automatically mounted. |
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| 18:32.31 | ctmjr | threexk: yes on the client computers you want to mount the nfs |
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| 18:44.08 | cnodell | I am running Debian testing and have noticed that db5.1-util has been held back when doing distro-upgrades for quite a while now. I did a quick search to see why this was happening but did not see anything specific to this package. Any ideas why this package is being held back? Is there a safe way to upgrade this package? |
| 18:44.56 | Cpuroast | do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:45.03 | Cpuroast | and you'll get the extra package |
| 18:45.15 | Mousey | rather |
| 18:45.20 | Mousey | do apt-get install db5.1-util |
| 18:45.25 | Cpuroast | bah |
| 18:45.28 | Cpuroast | it's testing |
| 18:45.34 | Mousey | do apt-get -t testing install db5.1-util |
| 18:45.35 | Cpuroast | so dist-upgrade works fine |
| 18:45.47 | Mousey | dist-upgrade gets you more than you're asking for |
| 18:45.50 | Mousey | but ok |
| 18:46.06 | Cpuroast | I doubt he'd get anything more than the held back package |
| 18:46.29 | Cpuroast | if this was stable, I'd say sure |
| 18:46.33 | cnodell | I have been running distro-upgrade and the package still gets held back |
| 18:46.44 | Cpuroast | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:46.49 | Cpuroast | not distro-upgrade |
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| 18:47.40 | cnodell | I also read about the apt-get install option but thought this would cause db5.1-util to be marked as a manual install which might keep it from being picked up by autoremove if it ever became orphaned. |
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| 18:48.21 | Cpuroast | cnodell: some packages get held back for a while |
| 18:48.31 | Cpuroast | as they are extra packages |
| 18:48.48 | Cpuroast | and doing a dist-upgrade will pull the extra package down |
| 18:49.08 | Cpuroast | this only really applies to testing |
| 18:49.34 | Cpuroast | as dist-upgrade wouldn't do much on a stable install without adding the new repos |
| 18:49.46 | Cpuroast | say for upgrading debian 6 to 7 |
| 18:50.09 | cnodell | Perhaps I am confused. What I have read on the web and hear here is, "do a dist-upgrade and it will be upgraded" what I am saying is that "I am doing dist-upgrade and the package is being held back". Am I missing something? |
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| 18:50.21 | Mousey | yes |
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| 18:50.47 | cnodell | Figured... I usually am! |
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| 18:51.49 | Mousey | the reason packages are "held back" is because there's a dependency on the new version which isn't installed. explicitly installing the held-back package (a la apt-get -t testing packagename) will install the package and the additional dependencies. doing dist-upgrade will accomplish the same thing, but it's a much bigger hammer |
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| 18:52.20 | Mousey | you can use a fly swatter or a land rover, either way the fly gets ded |
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| 18:54.41 | cnodell | That all makes sense. I get the logic there. So is the fact that this package is being held back, even when doing a dist-upgrade, a bug that should be reported? |
| 18:54.58 | adminewb | if my Q is taken for too off-topic, please suggest a better place to ask; suppose one is downloading a large image from a mirror site, and one already has an older version of a newly released image; using zsync would be useful, unless the mirror provides no .zsync control file; is there generally an anonymous ssh solution? |
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| 18:55.45 | zorael | What is kept in the /var/lib/dpkg/updates directory? |
| 18:55.52 | cnodell | Also, will doing an apt-get install to specifically install the new package version and dependancies cause that package to be marked as a manual install instead of automatic? |
| 18:56.35 | adminewb | cnodell, you can check that and correct it in aptitude, or other ways |
| 18:57.04 | cnodell | OK. I will do some digging then. |
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| 18:57.50 | adminewb | I'd expect it would treat it as manual install, but then just find the package in aptitude and press M to mark it auto install |
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| 18:58.25 | cnodell | It sounds like the tools are there to fix the issue. Now I am only wondering about the bug bit. Is this a bug that should be reported? It sounds like the dist-upgrade is not doing what it should in this specific case... |
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| 18:59.52 | adminewb | wouldn't know if that's considered a bug in package dependencies; maybe it's just that the upgrade wants you to be sure and explicit about bringing in (potentially) a boatload of unwanted stuff |
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| 19:03.04 | cnodell | Sounds goo. Just did the apt-get install then used apt-mark to mark it as an auto install again. Thanks for the help all! |
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| 19:06.02 | ctmjr | cnodell: if apt holds a package from being upgraded there is a reason if you try to force it your experience with testing will be a bad one just wait a few days and see what happens |
| 19:06.10 | ElDiabolo | How do I get beep on wheezy with gnome3 to work? Is it turned off by default? |
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| 19:22.37 | smoothcode | hi |
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| 19:23.52 | smoothcode | what can i use to backup a debian into a virtual box..clonezilla makes bit to bit image...the harddisk is 2 terrabyte |
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| 19:24.55 | Rug | Howdy all |
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| 19:25.40 | centrx | smoothcode, https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+virtualbox+create+image+from+disk |
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| 19:27.49 | sh622 | has anyone given the debian hurd release by gnu a try? |
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| 19:30.19 | zykotick9 | sh622: note, hurd is i386 only, and i don't believe it has usb support... just food for thought. |
| 19:31.15 | sh622 | i386 isn't a big deal except some of my ram won't be usable. but no usb? that's too bad |
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| 19:32.03 | zykotick9 | sh622: you should probably confirm the usb thing... also, it might only have IDE support? something else to check if you use sata. |
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| 19:33.44 | sh622 | if the IDE thing is true that would prevent me from trying it. i don't have anything with IDE anymore |
| 19:34.26 | sh622 | too bad. it's been in development for so long but i guess they don't have more than a handful of developers |
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| 19:35.48 | zykotick9 | sh622: fyi, if it's freedom you seek, gnu does consider linux-libre an official gnu kernel... just sayin. |
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| 19:38.34 | sh622 | zykotick9: interesting. isn't that the one used by gnewsense, or whatever that distro is called? |
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| 19:39.30 | zykotick9 | sh622: gnewsense/trisquel, jxself has a repo with the latest LTS and bleeding edge linux-libre kernels that works with debian |
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| 19:40.11 | zykotick9 | sh622: i do consider debian's kernel free however |
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| 19:40.51 | Rug | http://paste.debian.net/101472/ I have a workstation that cannot ping a second NIC on a Virtualbox guest. Any suggestions? |
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| 19:41.32 | sh622 | zykotick9: i don't know enough to call it either. i just like freedom and debian and was curious about all the options available. thanks for the info |
| 19:42.19 | zykotick9 | sh622: best of luck. freedom FTW |
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| 19:47.15 | wald0 | what is the "messagebus" group for ? i need to add my user to it ? |
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| 19:51.32 | CQ | hello, anyone know what gnome-vfs is? I'm trying to use bluefish to edit stylesheets on a server and its not working ... http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/manual/ch05s12.html |
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| 19:52.14 | ElDiabolo | Any hints on why beep is not working on my wheezy w. gnome while speaker-test works. |
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| 19:52.19 | ElDiabolo | ? |
| 19:52.53 | wald0 | this channel seems little died lol |
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| 19:54.15 | vook | ElDiabolo: is the pcspkr module loaded? |
| 19:54.29 | ElDiabolo | vook, yes |
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| 19:55.44 | vook | what kind of beep are you seeking? (the normal pc speaker beep (backspace at command line on a tty?) |
| 19:56.26 | ElDiabolo | vook, I want ping -a to work and I think this will work if the beep command is working. |
| 19:57.12 | zykotick9 | wonders what ping and the beep noise have in common... |
| 19:57.39 | wald0 | ElDiabolo: try it in console, out of X11 |
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| 19:58.30 | vook | and double check volume in a tool like alsamixer - sometimes you'll find something muted |
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| 20:00.49 | ElDiabolo | wald0, Silence, at least when switching to the console with strg+alt+Fn. |
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| 20:01.03 | vook | zykotick9: ping can be likened to old radar devices that beeped at each pass. |
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| 20:03.35 | adminewb | package "beep" would appear to use only the built in pc speaker, not the audio channel which can be affected by alsa etc. |
| 20:04.24 | Rug | http://paste.debian.net/101472/ I have a workstation that cannot ping a second NIC on a Virtualbox guest. Any suggestions? |
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| 20:05.53 | ElDiabolo | adminewb, So it might be that my laptop has speakers, but not a "pc speaker"? |
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| 20:06.13 | adminewb | could well be, yes |
| 20:06.35 | adminewb | when your BIOS boots for instance, do you hear a beep like a pc speaker? |
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| 20:06.44 | ElDiabolo | adminewb, no. |
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| 20:08.17 | adminewb | there must be some other way to definitely confirm whether your laptop mainboard supports a pc-speaker output, but atm I can't think what |
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| 20:27.04 | ElDiabolo | adminewb, I unloaded pcspkr and loaded snd_pcsp, but that did not help. |
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| 20:29.29 | adminewb | ElDiabolo what is snd_pcsp? |
| 20:30.26 | ElDiabolo | adminewb, It emulates pcspkr using pc speakers. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540320 |
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| 20:31.52 | adminewb | so it's a standard kernel module then |
| 20:32.18 | ABDU1989 | how to install vlc 2.1.4 on wheezy |
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| 20:33.48 | ElDiabolo | adminewb, Yes. |
| 20:34.20 | adminewb | ABDU1989, vlc 2.1.2 is available on wheezy-backports, but not newer as far as I can make out |
| 20:35.41 | ABDU1989 | adminewb, backports 2.0.3 |
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| 20:39.30 | Rug | 'ifconfig eth1 down' is not bringing down the NIC. ?? why not? how can I force it down? |
| 20:39.36 | adminewb | ElDiabolo I can find reference to that module only in forum postings, but it appears to be properly purposed for what you're doing |
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| 20:41.50 | adminewb | ABDU1989, videolan.org is publishing a 2.1.3 download for various platforms; are you sure you want to be playing with unpublished software? |
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| 20:42.23 | zykotick9 | Rug: are you using root/sudo? personally i typically use the "ifdown eth1" type thing, but i believe your ifconfig should also work. |
| 20:42.34 | Rug | zykotick9: root |
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| 20:44.16 | ABDU1989 | adminewb, yes Why is available in other distributions except for Debian |
| 20:44.23 | Rug | ifdown doesn't work. ip link eth1 down doesn't work. service networking restart reports: Fialed to bring up eth1. All the while it is merrily replying to pings. |
| 20:44.50 | jrtappers | Is there a reason that a sever would spin up its fan at set intervals? Even under minimal load |
| 20:44.57 | adminewb | in channel chat only please |
| 20:45.25 | jrtappers | Its a home server, and usually quiet, but sometimes it just spins up its fans for no reason :S |
| 20:45.42 | adminewb | ABDU1989, so how can you tell vlc 2.1.4 is available for something? |
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| 20:46.27 | ABDU1989 | There in Ubuntu |
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| 20:48.05 | Slippern | Hello, my mysql has crashed, here is the log, http://pastebin.com/ADDgx0Un any ideas why? |
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| 20:48.58 | adminewb | ABDU1989 so there's been a security patch for ubuntu's vlc, but I suspect the person doing that patch made a mistake in calling it 2.1.4; not even videolan.org provides a 2.1.4 to the public |
| 20:49.13 | adminewb | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/v/vlc/vlc_2.1.4-0ubuntu14.04.1/changelog |
| 20:49.38 | ompaul | ,v vlc |
| 20:49.39 | judd | Package: vlc on i386 -- squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 2.0.3-5~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2.0.3-5; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 2.0.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 2.1.2-2~bpo70+3; jessie: 2.1.4-1+b1; sid: 2.1.4-1+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0.6-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.1.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.1.4-dmo1 |
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| 20:58.50 | adminewb | ABDU1989, it's been 12 days since they patched it for CVE-2014-1684, divide-by-zero DoS vulnerability, wouldn't know why it's not been applied yet to wheezy |
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| 21:00.19 | Rug | http://paste.debian.net/101472/ I have a workstation that cannot ping a second NIC on a Virtualbox guest. Any suggestions? |
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| 21:02.04 | tharkun | Rug: mtr -r 2ndnic.virtualboxguest.example.com |
| 21:02.17 | tharkun | Rug: ip route ls on both instances |
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| 21:02.27 | tharkun | on a single pastebin |
| 21:02.39 | SarahC | um... what is the standard de and version in debian? :o |
| 21:02.48 | Rug | tharkun: ok give me a second. |
| 21:03.09 | tharkun | SarahC: can you be more specific? |
| 21:03.42 | SarahC | tharkun: what desktop environment is debian using? :) |
| 21:03.59 | adminewb | SarahC, you have lots of choices |
| 21:04.04 | tharkun | SarahC: The one you like most. |
| 21:04.09 | SarahC | :s |
| 21:04.25 | SarahC | what is the standard if i dont choose one on my own? |
| 21:04.45 | tharkun | I believe gnome will be the one that will be installed by default |
| 21:04.54 | SarahC | tharkun: what version? |
| 21:05.35 | tharkun | judd: versions task-gnome-desktop |
| 21:05.36 | judd | Package: task-gnome-desktop on i386 -- wheezy: 3.14.1; jessie: 3.20; sid: 3.20 |
| 21:05.45 | tharkun | SarahC: ^^ |
| 21:05.51 | SarahC | :o |
| 21:05.55 | SarahC | i thought people hated gnome 3? |
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| 21:06.48 | tharkun | SarahC: Probably there are lots of other choices. I believe the new default will be xfce but then I'm not familiar with that |
| 21:06.56 | tharkun | I happen to use notion |
| 21:08.23 | SarahC | tharkun: why do you believe that xfce will be the new defualt? |
| 21:08.27 | SarahC | can i read about it? |
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| 21:09.37 | tharkun | SarahC: I read something, somewhere, sometime ago. Sorry my memory is a bit fuzzy on this topic. But I believe google has a more solid memory than me ;P |
| 21:10.09 | adminewb | ,v xfce4 |
| 21:10.11 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1 |
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| 21:10.54 | adminewb | do people who hate gnome3 like gnome2? |
| 21:12.23 | tharkun | adminewb: Two completely different beasts. I did some gui interfaces with g2 but g3 is counter intuitive according to *my* user base |
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| 21:13.21 | adminewb | tharkun, good thing to know, especially for gnome developers :) |
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| 21:15.24 | tharkun | adminewb: I don't think they care about it. Lots of people complained before they released. |
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| 21:18.49 | adminewb | if there's a better place to ask this, please say where: is there a ssh-anonymous or other solution to missing .zsync control files on mirrors? |
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| 21:22.54 | merlincorey | hello old friends (and new) |
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| 21:23.35 | merlincorey | I'm trying to install nodejs with checkinstall so I have a debian package on debian7, but checkinstall errors out near the end with the following error message: |
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| 21:23.46 | merlincorey | dpkg-deb: error: parsing file '/var/tmp/tmp.gBIhBO1Whp/package/DEBIAN/control' near line 7 package 'node': error in Version string 'v0.10.28-1': version number does not start with digit |
| 21:23.49 | lucido | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.11 | merlincorey | what should I be looking to edit, or perhaps there is a switch I can give to checkinstall to ignore it? |
| 21:25.26 | merlincorey | lucido: created on which end is probably a good follow up question; I mean are you creating the directories on the server, or are your users creating the directories connected to the share? |
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| 21:26.30 | lucido | merlincorey, users connected |
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| 21:27.24 | lucido | also id I don't give o+rx rights to the share root users cant even connect, what is smbd executed as? |
| 21:28.01 | merlincorey | lucido: is it only directories getting that mode or is it files too? |
| 21:28.09 | lucido | smbd runs as root why does it need o permissions? |
| 21:28.37 | lucido | merlincorey, files get -rwxrw---- |
| 21:28.39 | merlincorey | lucido: it probably drops privileges at some point like any good unix daemon |
| 21:28.46 | lucido | I see |
| 21:29.16 | lucido | but wht does other get rx and group doesnt get w? |
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| 21:30.48 | merlincorey | okay so in summary, users connected to your samba share create files with u+rwx, g+rw, o+ and directories with u+rwx, g+rs, o+rx but you expect everything to u+rwx, g+rws, o+rx ? |
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| 21:31.43 | merlincorey | I would suggest looking into the umask for smbusers to start |
| 21:31.47 | merlincorey | and the system wide umask |
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| 21:31.57 | merlincorey | but I am not an expert on samba shares :) |
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| 21:32.19 | lucido | merlincorey, debian systems have 022 umask is that it? |
| 21:32.41 | lucido | I guess that kills write priviledges |
| 21:33.30 | Rug | tharkun: http://paste.debian.net/101490/ |
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| 21:34.44 | Alex149 | thats the goal of life, to sudo cp self cloneofself |
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| 21:36.18 | Alex149 | Do I have write privileges? no. |
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| 21:39.05 | merlincorey | alright it seems for my issue is a semi-known issue and I had to run checkinstall with -D (not sure if that was required) but then I was able to change the version string which before seemed to be proper but ended up not |
| 21:39.09 | merlincorey | so woohoo |
| 21:39.12 | merlincorey | sorry for the noise |
| 21:39.52 | merlincorey | until next time! |
| 21:39.57 | merlincorey | tips wizard hat |
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| 21:44.54 | nath_ | this is probably the "offtopic question of the day" but is there any kind of page around, that can display the time in a terminal browser? |
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| 21:46.39 | adminewb | nath_ don't you just set up your prompt to show local time? |
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| 21:47.33 | nath_ | adminewb: sorry not familiar with term 'prompt' |
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| 21:48.34 | adminewb | nath_ shell terminals prompt you for a shell command |
| 21:48.40 | nath_ | adminewb: you mean setting up the propper timezone on my local machine? |
| 21:48.54 | nath_ | adminewb: ahh right :-) |
| 21:48.58 | ZIPY | nath_: date --help |
| 21:48.58 | ZIPY | just type in date in terminal |
| 21:49.02 | adminewb | there's an environment variable to set the prompt |
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| 21:49.40 | nath_ | ZIPY: thx man, I also of this fancy tty-clock ;-) |
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| 21:50.50 | nath_ | ZIPY: this question was rather aiming to the purpose of quickly checking the right time (that often gets wrong on my laptop) without syncing the machine |
| 21:53.09 | ZIPY | hmm what is wrong with syncing the time then |
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| 21:54.03 | adminewb | nath_ do you have to measure how much your clock is drifting? |
| 21:54.19 | nath_ | for this purpose I edited /etc/ntp.conf and then set time with sudo 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' I think actually I learned that here a couple of days ago ;-) |
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| 21:54.38 | nath_ | adminewb: I mean that would be indeed interesting |
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| 21:55.19 | nath_ | ZIPY: well there is really nothing wrong with it, I just sometimes have lazy times and don't want to configure anything ;-) |
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| 21:56.45 | nath_ | ok the chatlog looks kinda weird now, because some stuff I sat was not ment as answer for qotes posted a couple of sec before :-P |
| 21:57.50 | ZIPY | hmm i guess u did that already anyways |
| 21:57.55 | ZIPY | if u have a /etc/ntp.conf you installed ntp already |
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| 22:00.36 | nath_ | ZIPY: yea I'm fine, I just synced the system via 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' though if there was a clock for a terminal based www browser; I'd liked to say that would highly appreciate to know :-) |
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| 22:01.00 | nath_ | *that I |
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| 22:01.59 | jmcnaught | I'm using LXC 0.8 in Wheezy, and I'm trying to configure some default values for every container that I create. Specifically I want to configure the network for new containers instead of having to edit /var/lib/lxc/$container/config after the container is created. LXC 1.0 has a /etc/lxc/default.conf for this. Is there anything I can use with LXC 0.8 in Wheezy for this? |
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| 22:09.11 | jmcnaught | aha.. in LXC 0.8 i can still put values into /etc/lxc/default.conf, i just have to specify that file with "-f" option for lxc-create |
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| 22:09.58 | ziftex | Hi. |
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| 22:10.28 | ziftex | where can I look for a dead apt mirror that is not in sources.list? |
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| 22:10.58 | ziftex | was added with add-apt-repository |
| 22:11.08 | nath_ | ZIPY: am I right that ntptrace would be the option to measure the drifting of the clock? |
| 22:11.57 | zykotick9 | ziftex: is this on ubuntu? if so, #ubuntu is over there -> |
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| 22:13.15 | sh622 | can someone tell me what the point of kfreebsd is? i know it used the freebsd kernel but i just set it up for fun and am wondering why someone might want that instead of linux. and why they wouldn't just get freebsd |
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| 22:13.45 | ziftex | zykotick9, Debian. |
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| 22:14.02 | zykotick9 | ziftex: then where did you get add-apt-repository from? |
| 22:14.11 | ziftex | installed it :) |
| 22:14.21 | ziftex | 2 sec |
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| 22:14.47 | ziftex | apt-get install python-software-properties |
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| 22:15.50 | Tau | hello. i have installed the latest stable version of debian in my laptop |
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| 22:15.55 | Tau | but it seems that it bots okay |
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| 22:16.12 | Tau | but when it is gonna appear the login screen |
| 22:16.15 | Tau | it just stops |
| 22:16.17 | alphis | where the shit is ettercap ? why is apt-cache search ettercap returning nothing |
| 22:16.18 | Tau | and stays quiet |
| 22:16.22 | Tau | the login screen doesnt appear. |
| 22:16.25 | Tau | what can it be? |
| 22:16.28 | ZIPY | nath_: no ntptrace will only show u the ntp server nodes back to the origin time server source |
| 22:16.29 | alphis | god i hate this distro sometimes |
| 22:16.30 | Tau | i have tried reinstalling it twice. |
| 22:16.36 | Tau | but it seems not to work. |
| 22:17.22 | nath_ | ZIPY: ok cheers :-) |
| 22:17.34 | ZIPY | nath_: https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime <- if u want to sync via ntp automatically |
| 22:17.57 | nath_ | ZIPY: much thx! |
| 22:18.09 | alphis | anyone know why ettercap isn't in deb package list? web says it exists but i can't find it |
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| 22:19.30 | ziftex | zykotick9, fixed it.. did install software-properties-gtk and edit list from there |
| 22:19.43 | Tau | some idea? |
| 22:20.08 | ZIPY | not sure if ntp is running on ur system right now |
| 22:21.03 | sh622 | alphis: link to the page which says it is available in debian 7 |
| 22:21.22 | alphis | said nothing about deb7 |
| 22:21.25 | alphis | seems to mention sid |
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| 22:21.39 | alphis | maybe deb 7 shoud list the packages it decided to no longer list |
| 22:21.49 | alphis | why the step backwards? |
| 22:21.51 | sh622 | alphis: and are you running unstable? |
| 22:21.55 | alphis | no |
| 22:21.57 | alphis | stable deb 7 |
| 22:22.05 | sh622 | alphis: then how do you expect to find it? |
| 22:22.13 | alphis | i've added contrib and non-free (to make it somewhat useful) |
| 22:22.29 | alphis | oh im sorry. didnt know u needed to run unstable to use normal packages |
| 22:22.32 | sh622 | alphis: you hate this distro but you don't know how it works |
| 22:22.49 | alphis | should i assume anything not in repo is in testing |
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| 22:23.10 | sh622 | no. you should take 10 seconds to find out where it is |
| 22:23.12 | adminewb | ,v ettercap |
| 22:23.13 | judd | Package: ettercap on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.7.3-2.1+squeeze1 |
| 22:23.29 | alphis | sh622: how do i find "where it is" |
| 22:23.36 | alphis | i thought apt-cache search was the way |
| 22:23.39 | adminewb | ,v ettercap-common |
| 22:23.39 | nath_ | ZIPY: I just installed ntp, to get this fixed |
| 22:23.39 | judd | Package: ettercap-common on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.7.3-2.1+squeeze1; jessie: 1:0.8.0-14; sid: 1:0.8.0-14 |
| 22:23.54 | adminewb | it's not on wheezy |
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| 22:23.57 | alphis | is ,v a command? |
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| 22:24.09 | adminewb | it triggers the bot |
| 22:24.22 | alphis | ok so how do i, not in this channel, search for ettercap |
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| 22:24.50 | tharkun | !apt-file |
| 22:24.50 | dpkg | apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>, <dlocate>. |
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| 22:25.03 | ZIPY | nath_: http://sakafi.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/fixing-time-drift-in-the-servers-syncing-with-time-servers/ <- you can adjust the driffting by changing the tick variable |
| 22:25.04 | ZIPY | nath_: i dont know how to measure the driffting tho, i guess its trial and error :D |
| 22:26.26 | nath_ | ok |
| 22:26.29 | nath_ | ;-) |
| 22:26.39 | tharkun | nath_: ntp will keep your clock in check within a reasonable difference. Just make sure you are on the right timezone. (I personally stick with UTC for server purposes) |
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| 22:27.19 | alphis | ill just build from src this is dumb |
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| 22:27.39 | ZIPY | nath_: yes ntp should be the best solution for your problem, adjusting the tick variable should be considered only if its drifting way to much and you dont have internet to sync :) |
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| 22:28.00 | sh622 | alphis: then do it and stop complaining about things you don't want to learn |
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| 22:28.18 | tharkun | !tell alphis about uupdate |
| 22:28.21 | alphis | i asked you didn't respond lol |
| 22:28.33 | sh622 | someone else responded to you |
| 22:28.40 | nath_ | ZIPY: ok, no that is not my scenario atm :-) |
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| 22:29.06 | alphis | apt-file doesn't help |
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| 22:29.51 | vook | alphis: if it isn't in stable, there is a reason. It's in testing. Otherwise just build it, no big deal. |
| 22:30.00 | sh622 | maybe it doesn't like you either |
| 22:31.36 | alphis | rofl |
| 22:31.37 | alphis | k |
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| 22:32.32 | ZIPY | nath_: ok i hope this solved your problem, lets see what your clock says tomorrow x) |
| 22:32.32 | ZIPY | im heading off to bed now gn8 all |
| 22:32.56 | nath_ | ZIPY: cheers man thx for the support <3 |
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| 22:46.23 | HD|Laptop | hi all |
| 22:46.37 | HD|Laptop | i am logged in on a server as root via ssh from two different clients A and B |
| 22:46.51 | HD|Laptop | the problem is I have lost the teamviewer connection from A to B |
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| 22:47.01 | HD|Laptop | can I somehow from B "backconnect" via ssh? |
| 22:47.19 | HD|Laptop | i'd need to establish a RDP proxy |
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| 22:52.37 | centrx | HD|Laptop, That seems very teamviewer specific. Probably not many people here know about that since it's not in Debian |
| 22:52.56 | centrx | HD|Laptop, I would use vnc or ssh X forwarding |
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| 22:57.42 | HD|Laptop | centrx: it would even help me if I could get *any* connection to that machine |
| 22:57.50 | HD|Laptop | problem is I cant reach it from the internet |
| 22:58.05 | HD|Laptop | I only could by sending a packet through ssh in "the wrong way" |
| 22:58.09 | centrx | That seems like an entirely different problem |
| 22:58.19 | centrx | e.g. network problem |
| 22:58.49 | xeno | Say, what is the latest php package in Debian? |
| 22:59.20 | centrx | ,v php5 |
| 22:59.21 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u9; sid: 5.5.12+dfsg-1; jessie: 5.5.12+dfsg-2; sid: 5.5.12+dfsg-2; experimental: 5.6.0~beta1+dfsg-2; experimental: 5.6.0~beta2+dfsg-1 |
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| 23:20.01 | Tau | hello |
| 23:20.15 | Tau | it seems my notebook is not booting correctly. |
| 23:20.24 | Tau | how can i fix it? |
| 23:21.01 | mtn | Tau: perhaps it would help if you described what was actually happening |
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| 23:22.48 | Tau | mtn i installed it, the latest stable version. it installed the grub, when it goes to boot, it just starts correctly but it doesnt appear the terminal login screen it just remains with a black screen hanged out. |
| 23:22.55 | Tau | mtn so i presume it is something in the grub. |
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| 23:26.40 | mtn | Tau: do you see the grub menu during boot? |
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| 23:28.29 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.33 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.43 | Tau | it hangs out with a black screen. |
| 23:28.50 | Tau | and the login screen doesnt appear. |
| 23:30.17 | mtn | Tau: maybe it is video driver related. what video chip or card do you have? |
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| 23:35.44 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.49 | Tau | mtn but it seems to be a wireless issue. |
| 23:35.51 | Tau | isnt it? |
| 23:35.58 | Tau | mtn i have no idea. it is an old laptop. |
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| 23:39.48 | mtn | Tau: use a live disk or the debian install disk, with rescue mode and follow this: https://wiki.debian.org/GraphicsCard |
| 23:42.09 | Tau | lemme see |
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| 23:54.26 | b4ggi0 | how can I set the timestamp in syslog the same TIMEZONE as localtime .not UTC? |
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