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| 00:00.31 | Arahael | jmcnaught: Duply looks intruguing. |
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| 00:01.32 | jmcnaught | Arahael: I've also been interested in trying out boxbackup which can backup in realtime, but right now i'm using duply |
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| 00:02.14 | Arahael | jmcnaught: Also intriguing, will check that out too. :) |
| 00:02.16 | peterrooney | Arahael: rdiff-backup is cli and impressive |
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| 00:04.45 | Arahael | peterrooney: Does it automatically create incremental backups by date without me having to manually specify the name of the incremental backup? |
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| 00:05.32 | dondelelcaro | you might also want to consider obnam |
| 00:06.04 | Arahael | I've never heard of that one. |
| 00:06.37 | Arahael | How does that one differ from rdiff-backup? |
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| 00:08.57 | dondelelcaro | it handles expiration of files, and data deduplication |
| 00:09.04 | dondelelcaro | which rdiff doesn't |
| 00:09.37 | Arahael | What's "expiration", in this context? |
| 00:10.00 | Arahael | Data deduplication sounds excellent, but rdiff almost gets that (Well, it has incidential deduplication) |
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| 00:12.08 | Arahael | Sorry I gotta head off - thanks for your tips and suggestions! |
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| 00:18.17 | Akuw | hi, i begin to learn ldap but have some confusion |
| 00:18.36 | Akuw | i installed, now how can i test it? |
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| 00:19.16 | crsuarez | https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/PAM |
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| 00:25.58 | sPrinGfield | need help with unusual networking issue. A host cant communicate with an other witch is an gateway. Tried simple ping, iptraf showed ACK & Reply on both sides but on the hosts side ping does not get answered. |
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| 00:27.30 | crsuarez | sPrinGfield: tcptraceroute ? |
| 00:28.08 | sPrinGfield | nothing |
| 00:28.26 | crsuarez | iptables blocking something? |
| 00:29.21 | sPrinGfield | iptables are empty on both sides default rule accept |
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| 00:31.21 | crsuarez | use nmap, check if ports show as filtered/no response maybe? |
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| 00:33.48 | crsuarez | nmap --top-ports 10 --reason HOST |
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| 00:36.58 | sPrinGfield | ill do a quick draw to explain this problem. one moment ... |
| 00:37.20 | crsuarez | k |
| 00:37.47 | brennanos | hi all...Im having trouble getting sound to work in Wheezy under Virtual Box... everything seems like it should work (aplay has no errors, speaker-test no errors) but there is just no sound |
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| 00:38.11 | crsuarez | brennanos: did you installed the VBox guest addons? |
| 00:38.34 | brennanos | crsuarez: yes |
| 00:39.00 | brennanos | crsuarez: I did install just the base system, the used apt to install X, then windowmaker |
| 00:39.25 | brennanos | but alsa seems to be working... it seems like something is muting it |
| 00:39.40 | brennanos | I turned the volume up on everythingin alsamixer |
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| 00:42.53 | brennanos | ah hell |
| 00:43.01 | brennanos | everything in alsamixer was muted |
| 00:43.11 | brennanos | I didnt know thats what MM was |
| 00:43.11 | crsuarez | mmmm /facepalm |
| 00:43.15 | brennanos | and that M unmutes it |
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| 00:43.46 | brennanos | a nice default.. to mute everything.. ha |
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| 00:48.11 | brennanos | on a different note... anyone know how I could make an xterm use the "Large" font by default? |
| 00:48.42 | sPrinGfield | crsuarez http://pixelbanane.de/yafu/3685737919/quickdraw.jpg |
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| 00:49.30 | crsuarez | checking |
| 00:49.38 | sPrinGfield | thx |
| 00:50.02 | maurer | Anyone know why despite specifying that it should listen on 127.0.0.1 and ::1 in the dpkg configuration, exim4 appears to have bound to my public interface as well? |
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| 00:50.19 | maurer | (luckily, it doesn't seem to actually accept connections, but nmap can detect that it's there) |
| 00:50.54 | nodiscc | is there a reason why www-data's shell is not /usr/sbin/nologin or something not-interactive? |
| 00:51.20 | nodiscc | isnt that a security rist to have a www-data user with a valid interactive shell? |
| 00:51.27 | abrotman | nodiscc: does it have a password? |
| 00:51.42 | nodiscc | abrotman: it does not by default, i think |
| 00:51.49 | nodiscc | but su www-data works |
| 00:52.09 | abrotman | sure .. |
| 00:52.19 | abrotman | notes if you already are root, the game is over |
| 00:53.14 | nodiscc | abrotman: that's not what i mean, sure if you have root its over. but having /bin/sh as shell allwos www-data to run shell comands, while /usr/sbin/nologin does not. Am I right? |
| 00:55.08 | crsuarez | sPrinGfield: sorry, brb. |
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| 00:56.46 | crsuarez | sPrinGfield: did you ask in #network channel? |
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| 00:57.41 | sPrinGfield | crsuarez will give this a try. thank you :) |
| 00:58.46 | nodiscc | abrotman: please feel fre to tell me if my reasoning looks downright stupid. |
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| 00:59.30 | abrotman | nodiscc: you can change it if you like .. |
| 00:59.43 | abrotman | nodiscc: as a regular user, can you su - www-data? |
| 01:00.03 | nodiscc | I've changed it, but was wondering why it was the default |
| 01:00.16 | nodiscc | No. >This account is currently not available. |
| 01:00.21 | themill | nodiscc: changing the shell to nologin doesn't stop some cgi running "sh /tmp/php-me-harder" |
| 01:00.36 | themill | (and that's the thing you're trying to prevent) |
| 01:00.47 | nodiscc | themill: does it not? |
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| 01:01.44 | nodiscc | now that I have changed it to nologin, how do I, say, cat /etc/passwd as the www-data user? |
| 01:01.45 | themill | nothing in fork or exec check that there's a valid login shell. login shells are for logging in |
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| 01:02.19 | themill | you could write a 3 line php/perl/python script and execute that command from your webserver process |
| 01:02.58 | nodiscc | ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying. |
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| 01:03.45 | nodiscc | So there's nothing wrong with www-data having /bin/sh as shell anyway |
| 01:05.07 | themill | well it would allow someone to log in via ssh if they had managed to set a password for that account |
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| 01:06.51 | nodiscc | so if someone writes /var/www/.ssh/authorized keys and puts his public key in there, he could get a shell as www-data through SSH |
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| 01:09.15 | themill | setting the shell to nologin doesn't prevent that -- just use ssh in a way that doesn't request a shell |
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| 01:11.15 | themill | What happens in that case depends on your precise sshd and PAM configuration |
| 01:11.56 | harovali | Under Wheezy, I put to work with cups a Epson Stylus TX105 inkjet printer. It randomly will print or keep as nothing has been sent to it. Under windows it prints always. I'm suspecting the driver that the installer found, is not working well. It's not a usb cable/olug problem, since the scanner/xsane function works always in linux. I think its a printer driver problem. How can I proceed to solve this ? |
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| 01:13.33 | dondelelcaro | harovali: presumably it's configured using cups; you can see what driver/ppd is being used if you go to http://localhost:631/ |
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| 01:15.08 | dondelelcaro | harovali: apparently it uses the gutenprint driver; it's possible that a newer version of that may work better |
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| 01:16.13 | justanotheruser | What is the best way to improve my battery life |
| 01:16.28 | nodiscc | dondelelcaro: there's a list of recommended drivers at https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_TX110 (I could find the TX110 but TX105 is not listed) |
| 01:16.48 | dondelelcaro | nodiscc: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_TX105 |
| 01:17.06 | nodiscc | I should have guessed... |
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| 01:25.03 | nodiscc | rawfodog: upgrading to jessie may be a good option https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
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| 01:34.27 | Myrth | hi, is there a source for apache 2.4 deb? |
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| 01:37.24 | jmcnaught | Myrth: apache 2.4 is in jessie, but for wheezy it's probably better to stick with 2.2. A lot of other packages in wheezy would be broken if you used apache 2.4 from some third party repository |
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| 01:38.10 | jmcnaught | Myrth: i can definitely sympathize, I'm really looking forward to using apache 2.4 when jessie becomes stable |
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| 01:38.22 | Myrth | jmcnaught: thanks, should dist-upgrade from 7.5 to 7.6 be safe? |
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| 01:38.56 | Myrth | when is it going out? |
| 01:39.41 | jmcnaught | Myrth: Jessie will be Debian 8, and I guess it will be out when it's ready |
| 01:41.06 | jmcnaught | Myrth: what are you trying to do with apache 2.4? Is it something that cannot be done with apache 2.2? |
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| 01:41.50 | Myrth | too many open vulns in 2.2, i'm being notified by my security people: http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-45/product_id-66/version_id-142323/Apache-Http-Server-2.2.22.html |
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| 01:43.21 | themill | Myrth: that page doesn't tell you whether they are fixed in debian. /msg dpkg security backports; and see https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/apache2 |
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| 01:45.26 | Myrth | themill: so comparable number of issues in both 2.2 and 2.4 ? |
| 01:46.00 | harovali | dondelelcaro: aha! meybe yes, that's the thing with the printer. |
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| 01:46.12 | themill | Myrth: there's only one difference and that only applies to DAV write |
| 01:46.38 | harovali | What's the usual place to look for a better driver for a printer after trying gutenprint's ? |
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| 02:28.47 | mns | what is a good cd playing program ? preferably gtk based. |
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| 02:30.09 | zykotick9 | hasn't played a CD in years... abcde is a great terminal ripper in his opinion |
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| 02:32.03 | mns | yup .. abcde does a good job of ripping but I wanted to just play the CD |
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| 02:39.33 | Streusel | How does one use the vi commands? |
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| 02:42.23 | zykotick9 | Streusel: do you mean the vi readline editing? or in vi(m) itself? |
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| 02:42.43 | Streusel | zykotick9 vi |
| 02:44.39 | themill | running "vimtutor" is a great start |
| 02:44.55 | Streusel | ahh got it |
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| 02:45.49 | Streusel | themill well I got a site open but I had no idea how to use the commands or what they really did |
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| 02:47.12 | zykotick9 | Streusel: sidenote, if you are just starting out with vi(m), i'd suggest installing vim instead of using the vim-tiny that comes by default YMMV |
| 02:48.20 | Streusel | got vim installed already, just trying to figure out these were dd or dw commands |
| 02:49.42 | zykotick9 | Streusel: +1 on themill's "vimtutor" suggestion... best of luck. vim is a bit daunting at first, but it's a great thing to learn. |
| 02:50.29 | zykotick9 | Streusel: fyi, dd or dw work, when you're not in "insert" mode... |
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| 02:51.30 | zykotick9 | can never remember what the "proper" names for vim's different modes are... |
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| 02:59.10 | jmcnaught | Streusel: +1 for vimtutor, also read this the other day: https://ajh17.github.io/2014/05/25/can-someone-help-me/index.html (it's about vim help) |
| 02:59.29 | Streusel | thanks |
| 03:00.09 | dvs | !start an editor war |
| 03:00.09 | dpkg | ae users are really backwards! |
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| 03:04.08 | zykotick9 | dvs: PMing with dpkg, it too awhile before it actually dis'ed emacs, i was begining to wonder if it would (xemacs came up pretty quick)... but finally it did ;) |
| 03:04.21 | zykotick9 | s/too/took/ |
| 03:04.29 | dvs | boo dpkg! |
| 03:04.35 | zykotick9 | ;) |
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| 03:09.44 | kelsoo | yes, but it's fine. Ican go bact to sleep np |
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| 03:29.08 | shawnbon206 | recommended to install debian with deboot strap similar to gentoo install method? |
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| 03:32.21 | zykotick9 | shawnbon206: do you have a need to install from another install? you can't boot cd/usb media? if not, why not just use netinst (expert install if you wish)? |
| 03:33.13 | shawnbon206 | i want as small as possible install, only minimum required to boot. expert install can do this? |
| 03:34.11 | zykotick9 | shawnbon206: i'd suggest "debian system tools" < or similar name, but even that's not required. you can "unselect everything" at the tasksel part of the default install to get a very minimal install if you want. |
| 03:35.43 | shawnbon206 | partitioning, formatting, mounting, debootstrapping, chrooting, configuring... seems like a good way to have fine grained control over the system |
| 03:36.09 | zykotick9 | shawnbon206: well best of luck. i personally don't see the point... |
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| 03:36.33 | Streusel | What does PROMPT=`pwd` do? I know pwd gives me the present working directory but it in itself doesn't do anything.. |
| 03:36.44 | shawnbon206 | ok. ty for your opinion zykotick9 |
| 03:37.20 | grok | shawnbon206: if you use the debian-live-7.5.0-amd64-standard.iso to install, you'll get as minimal a system as possible. no x, no wifi, just boot to console. |
| 03:38.07 | zykotick9 | shawnbon206: personally, i also don't see the point to the debian-live-* imagaes ;) netinst FTW <- IMO |
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| 03:40.11 | shawnbon206 | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/jessie_di_alpha_1/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-jessie-DI-a1-amd64-netinst.iso whats this |
| 03:40.12 | peterrooney | Streusel: it sets the variable PROMPT to the output of pwd - also, backquotes are the sleazy path to madness. use PROMPT=$(pwd) |
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| 03:40.35 | Streusel | mmm |
| 03:41.34 | shawnbon206 | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso this one has non-free firmware for wireless installs? |
| 03:41.39 | Streusel | thanks peterrooney |
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| 03:41.57 | zykotick9 | shawnbon206: yes |
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| 03:45.43 | peterrooney | Streusel: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 03:45.54 | grok | netinstall is fine, too. live (w/desktop) just adds some flexibility and is a significantly faster install. lets you testdrive, you can backup or partition before you start the install, use the net first, etc. |
| 03:46.55 | Streusel | peterrooney playing with vm |
| 03:47.09 | Streusel | figured out how to change the prompt, looks odd.. thankfully it's not permanent |
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| 03:48.02 | zykotick9 | shawnbon206: if you do have non-free requiring wireless, that you need _during_ install, that unofficial firmware netinst _IS_ you best bet. enjoy debian! |
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| 04:24.10 | ectospasm | I have a wheezy router, and for some reason, iptables --list takes two minutes to print everything out. I don't know when it started doing it, but I noticed it just tonight because I've been having network issues. |
| 04:24.32 | themill | does adding -n help (turn off name resolution) |
| 04:24.56 | ectospasm | that's it. Must be the name resolution. |
| 04:25.35 | [gnubie] | in LVM, is it possible to create a VG from a raw file? |
| 04:25.35 | ectospasm | also seems to be why "route" is slow, too. |
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| 04:26.24 | ectospasm | VG typically is below the filesystem, but it could work in a sort of loopback mode (something like mount -o loop maybe) |
| 04:26.30 | ectospasm | but that's a guess, I'm no LVM expert |
| 04:26.32 | poeticrpm | does anyone know if you can boot an external hard drive from a computer that has a UEFI setup on its main hard drive? |
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| 04:33.59 | [gnubie] | ectospasm: that's what i'm thinking, a loopback mode. but, what i know for loopback mode is it has to be mounted and of course has a filesystem |
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| 04:42.51 | dondelelcaro | dobber: there isn't a paste.debian.org... |
| 04:43.25 | dobber | .net |
| 04:44.10 | dondelelcaro | dobber: what's the problem? |
| 04:44.43 | jordanm | dobber: see the side bar |
| 04:45.41 | dobber | yeah, i sent an email |
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| 04:53.03 | asarch | Is there any tool a la ifconfig but very descriptive? |
| 04:53.35 | johnwalkr | ifconfiv -v |
| 04:54.40 | asarch | I mean, info about DNS, etc |
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| 04:59.50 | OpenTokix | eristisk: iceweasel is not one process per tab |
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| 05:00.55 | OpenTokix | eristisk: ok, you still have to restart your browser =) |
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| 06:53.48 | DARPA | Hello, I am trying to deploy the proper OpenVPN [client] for Debian Stable, wheezy 7. Seem to be having a rough time getting the concept of proper installation; if someone would be so kind to assist me I'd greatly appreciate it |
| 06:54.21 | DARPA | Somehow it believes I need the server attached to my system conf or something and it's not employing the VPNs at all for service |
| 06:55.58 | DARPA | I know about the rebooting scheme to make it operate but even after that I turn it on and it just wont do anything at all :| |
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| 07:17.41 | acu | I install jessie amd64 everything looked OK, but now GNOME does not shut down |
| 07:18.01 | acu | if I use the menu logout or shutdown |
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| 07:19.13 | DARPA | does the old fashion ctrl+alt+del work? |
| 07:20.26 | acu | nope, I can do shutdown from cli as root though |
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| 07:21.01 | DARPA | You might have broken some system op on gnome, happens to me; i usually just reinstall everything, even with slow net |
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| 07:21.17 | DARPA | did it remove any files what so ever during installation or replacement? |
| 07:21.22 | OpenTokix | DARPA: I dont understand theissue with your ovpn, what does the client log say? |
| 07:21.50 | DARPA | I havent attempted to install it just yet [because its caused system op problems like acu |
| 07:22.08 | DARPA | Even a guide on the net would be helpful but the search engines are scattered with the server confs |
| 07:22.26 | OpenTokix | DARPA: I have had zero problems with openvpn in debian - used it for years |
| 07:22.39 | DARPA | Basically, I'll install openvpn, network-manager-gnome-openvpn, and the network-manager-openvpn |
| 07:22.59 | OpenTokix | DARPA: ah, I dont use gui's for that |
| 07:23.03 | DARPA | and it wont connect |
| 07:23.12 | OpenTokix | I only make a .conf and restart the ovpn |
| 07:23.16 | DARPA | even after rebooting, wont connect. |
| 07:23.21 | OpenTokix | DARPA: are your user allowed to create the tun-device etc? |
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| 07:23.38 | DARPA | I believe I've always managed to do it under root |
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| 07:23.51 | DARPA | now what you're mentioning may be the issue i havent calculated yet |
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| 07:24.11 | DARPA | but not certain yet let me actually give it a shot right now, will need to reboot |
| 07:24.37 | DARPA | so you're saying if i attempt to import the ovpn file on CLI it'll most likely function accordingly? |
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| 07:25.04 | OpenTokix | DARPA: rename the file to foobar.conf, put in /etc/openvpn/ - allong with keyfiles etc. - and it will autostart on boot |
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| 07:25.20 | OpenTokix | DARPA: Then the vpn will be available to all users on the machine, but if you're the only user it shouldnt be a problem |
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| 07:25.28 | corp | How do I turn on the fan? My k10temp temperature is over 70C and the fan isn't turning on. I have fancontrol but it says "Can't load configuration file" and sensors-detect cant find any modules to load. Please help me, how can I turn on the fan? My system is extremely overheating. |
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| 07:27.51 | peetaur2 | corp: plug it in |
| 07:28.26 | peetaur2 | corp: if you can see k10temp, I think that means the important modules are already lodaed |
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| 07:42.18 | DARPA | Thank you OpenTokix; I read a few manuals stating to do the same thing; 1 question did you just say 'foobar' for * use or actually rename it it to foobar for automatic loading? |
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| 07:42.57 | DARPA | sorry for landing in on a rhetorical question even though no question is 'stupid', lol. |
| 07:43.28 | DARPA | I think I might have skimmed on some place that actually states to do the same |
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| 07:48.16 | Celphish | Anyone here running PMS on debian? |
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| 07:50.29 | shawnbon206 | my wife does^ |
| 07:50.36 | shawnbon206 | your mom does.. |
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| 07:55.44 | DARPA | Celphish; is that that program which helps women calculate their period charts? |
| 07:56.01 | DARPA | sorry to be blunt about it |
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| 07:58.48 | babilen | shawnbon206: That is really not appropriate |
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| 07:59.27 | DARPA | correctitude to the max... respect is #1 |
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| 08:07.35 | DARPA | No problem jelly; misclicks do happen lol |
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| 08:16.57 | jelly-home | ,i pms |
| 08:16.59 | judd | Package pms (sound, extra) in wheezy/i386: Practical Music Search, an MPD client. Version: 0.41-1; Size: 133.2k; Installed: 376k; Homepage: http://pms.sourceforge.net |
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| 08:38.32 | bhuddah | deed02392: what are you trying to do? |
| 08:39.20 | deed02392 | bhuddah, develop software resilient to sqlite db corruption |
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| 08:39.49 | OpenTokix | DARPA: no, it can be named anything .conf |
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| 08:42.08 | bhuddah | deed02392: as you are only simulating data corruption anyways, why don't you prepare pre-corrupted data files and then use them? |
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| 08:42.43 | jelly | deed02392: what do you mean by "locked from writing" |
| 08:42.54 | petn-randall | deed02392: IMHO that's job of the filesystem/OS to make sure data is not corrupted. Unless you have specific case of corruption that happen through user space. |
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| 08:43.02 | deed02392 | bhuddah, I figure that would work slightly differently than corruption on disk while it's open, as it probably runs checks on opening that don't run when it attempts to access it if it already has a file handle |
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| 08:43.09 | Iridos | I think he wants to see what happens when data is corrupted while the process is still running... but that's not a very likely scenario, is it? |
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| 08:43.29 | deed02392 | Iridos, that's indeed what I want |
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| 08:43.41 | deed02392 | petn-randall, probably a fair comment |
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| 08:43.55 | smoke_ | anyone know anything about installing nvidia drivers on jessie? i think im having a problem with the kernel not compiling correctly so my modprobe isnt fidning the nvidia driver |
| 08:44.11 | bhuddah | very unlikely. and that probably would mean not disk corruption but file read cache corruption, Iridos, deed02392 |
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| 08:44.57 | deed02392 | bhuddah, ultimateley it should affect it but yes the file would likely be in the read cache and the on disk corruption not affect it for a while depending on load |
| 08:45.24 | deed02392 | for academic purposes, though, is this possible? I started off looking for a FUSE that might let you do it |
| 08:45.52 | bhuddah | i don't think it's possible. i don't see why a file system would/should let you do that. |
| 08:45.54 | petn-randall | smoke_: jessie is support on #debian next on irc.oftc.net (not freenode). |
| 08:45.59 | deed02392 | petn-randall has convinced me this is something I shouldn't worry about, but this is all good fun thinking about |
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| 08:46.05 | Iridos | as you develop the application... you can just have it write any corrupt data you like at any time... |
| 08:46.19 | deed02392 | Iridos, very true |
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| 08:46.41 | deed02392 | probably not as trivial as having a FS you can interact with though |
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| 08:47.34 | bhuddah | you can always use a blank device as data storage. there should be no locking in place then. |
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| 08:48.10 | deed02392 | you mean write a simple storage device driver for the kernel and IO with that bhuddah ? |
| 08:48.28 | bhuddah | o0? |
| 08:48.45 | Iridos | that indeed sounds trivial |
| 08:48.50 | Iridos | ^^ |
| 08:48.52 | deed02392 | lol |
| 08:49.01 | deed02392 | well I'm just confirming what he meant |
| 08:49.14 | deed02392 | I'm not sure how there would not still be locking in that case |
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| 08:50.58 | bhuddah | how can you have file level locking when you have no file system? |
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| 08:51.37 | bhuddah | but it was just an idea. i don't know if it makes a lot of sense |
| 08:51.41 | deed02392 | doesn't sqlite require a file to store the db in? |
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| 08:52.14 | deed02392 | never mind |
| 08:52.25 | deed02392 | I don't think this is something apps should worry about |
| 08:52.34 | deed02392 | if it is such a concern, use a reliable file system |
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| 09:13.01 | corp | How can I download all songs of a Soundcloud profile? I know its possible in Linux, is there any command or script for this? There must be! |
| 09:14.22 | formorer | youtube-dl says it supports soundcloud |
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| 09:14.42 | sweb | after chaning debian/rules i must do somthing for affect new build ? |
| 09:14.55 | sweb | i wanna rebuild php package with zts enable |
| 09:15.33 | themill | dpkg: tell sweb about package recompile |
| 09:17.01 | Shadur | Stupid fucking dell servers. |
| 09:17.15 | c0ded | hey i have a symlink setup in my home dir to another hdd where my python_dev folder is, and it works fine, but when u do ls -la(the way i like to list dirs) it just shows its a symlink, now i know i can add the ls -laL to it and it will list how i want, but is there a way to do this and still have it show that its a symlink? |
| 09:17.57 | c0ded | like how symlinks point to where it really is like python_dev -> /media/blah/blah/real/python_dev ? |
| 09:18.11 | Iridos | you mean eat the cake and have it, too? |
| 09:18.22 | c0ded | like another char i can add to my ls -laL to do both, list the contents and show the symlink is a symlink |
| 09:18.23 | c0ded | yes |
| 09:18.25 | c0ded | exactly |
| 09:18.35 | c0ded | lol |
| 09:18.38 | c0ded | id like both |
| 09:18.39 | Iridos | ^^ |
| 09:18.51 | colo-work | what's the best way to determine whether or not a configuration file in my system that popped up due to a package installation via apt has been changed since it was first created/installed by apt? |
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| 09:19.58 | Shadur | You'd normally EXPECT that two servers of the same brand and version would have the same internal hardware and chipsets, wouldn't you? |
| 09:20.06 | Iridos | no, but ls -l python_dev will show the symlink and ls -l python_dev/ will show the contents |
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| 09:23.01 | Iridos | dpkg, tell colo-work about conffile check |
| 09:23.08 | Iridos | not that I've tried that myself |
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| 09:23.40 | c0ded | yea i know i can do it by hand 2 diff ways, but i was wanting to add to my alias, i use alias l='ls -la' for yrs, now im adding alias l='ls -laL' which is what i want, but it be nice to also see this: python_dev -> /media/OS/Users/c0ded/Desktop/Temp.Temp/python_dev when i do it to the actual folder its in, and then when i do the same alias to the actual python_dev shows whats inside |
| 09:23.44 | Iridos | or have great faith in the automatic detection if something has changed... |
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| 09:24.36 | c0ded | cuz its more about the alias doing both for all folders, cuz the way it is now, every folder ill list wont show the symlink with that alias, i figured theres gotta be a way to be able to list the contents of a symlink with the same alias that will show its a simlink if u list the parent folder its in ;x |
| 09:25.49 | Iridos | I think my brain's grammar module just exploded |
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| 09:27.59 | c0ded | ok forget that, tbh, all i need this for is this 1 folder to be able to do l python_dev in my home dir, everywhere else id like it to just do ls -la, so what about an alias that chk's if its /home/user/python_dev and if so it does the ls -laL and if not it just does ls -la ? |
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| 09:28.13 | c0ded | can i fit that into an alias, or will i need to write a bash function for it? |
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| 09:30.08 | Iridos | you can just tab-complete python_dev and it will automatically complete it to python_dev/ |
| 09:30.11 | Iridos | and then list it |
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| 09:30.30 | Iridos | .. on the 2nd time typing tab |
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| 09:31.26 | c0ded | yea i get that, but gotta be way to just have it chk if its 1 specific folder and if so list 1 way and anything else list another way right? |
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| 09:31.57 | Iridos | sure, write a small function, aliases suck anyway... can test if the argument(s) is/are symlinks |
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| 09:34.01 | Iridos | of course even easier to check if one single argument is a certain directory |
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| 09:42.23 | colo-work | Iridos, thanks! |
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| 09:43.17 | c0ded | Iridos, k thx |
| 09:43.32 | c0ded | can u put functions into the .bash_aliases file along with reg aliases? |
| 09:43.38 | c0ded | or does it only take aliases |
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| 09:50.02 | c0ded | Iridos, something like this u where thinking? |
| 09:50.03 | c0ded | function l { |
| 09:50.04 | c0ded | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.04 | c0ded | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.04 | c0ded | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.04 | c0ded | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:50.22 | c0ded | sry, didnt think it was that big ;x |
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| 09:50.34 | c0ded | forgot the $ on the 2nd line |
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| 09:51.01 | mniip | http://bpaste.net/raw/3zXVMj9RRpVpVvC0UgQH/ |
| 09:51.07 | mniip | I'm not sure what is going on there |
| 09:51.07 | petn-randall | c0ded: As the kick message said, paste the full code to http://paste.debian.net. |
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| 09:51.48 | Ajss | it is possible to make debian work with systemd ? |
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| 09:52.20 | petn-randall | Ajss: Yes, but in Debian wheezy it is only a technology preview. The next release, jessie will probably come with systemd as a default. |
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| 09:53.24 | mniip | nnnnnnnoooooooooooo |
| 09:53.56 | mniip | anyway, anyone help me with ym fglrx issue? |
| 09:53.59 | petn-randall | !tell mniip about bat |
| 09:54.11 | petn-randall | mniip: We need more info, check what the bot sent you. |
| 09:54.11 | c0ded | http://paste.debian.net/102188/ |
| 09:54.13 | mniip | okee |
| 09:54.19 | mniip | petn-randall, figured |
| 09:54.36 | c0ded | that should work right? |
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| 09:56.23 | c0ded | or i guess i could just make it just chk for any symlink like if [ -L "$@" ]; then |
| 09:56.28 | c0ded | and do the rest how it is |
| 09:57.14 | mniip | http://bpaste.net/raw/Vy8fehANkYXSHGYbgEDZ/ |
| 09:57.37 | deed02392 | systemd to replace sys v in jessie? |
| 09:58.18 | Ajss | at last ... |
| 09:59.33 | petn-randall | deed02392: That is likely, yes. |
| 10:00.15 | c0ded | hmm didnt work how i wanted |
| 10:00.55 | c0ded | weird i cant comment out my aliases so l does nuthing , cuz it seems to be picking up on something else and not getting to the function |
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| 10:01.52 | mniip | petn-randall, http://bpaste.net/raw/Vy8fehANkYXSHGYbgEDZ/ |
| 10:02.28 | petn-randall | mniip: It should work, you have no apparent broken deps. What do 'apt-get install -f' and 'aptitude search ~o' give you? |
| 10:03.12 | mniip | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 10:04.09 | c0ded | yea cant get this to work right, any suggestions? |
| 10:04.44 | petn-randall | mniip: And the second command? |
| 10:05.10 | mniip | gives a bunch of lines |
| 10:05.13 | mniip | should I paste? |
| 10:05.18 | petn-randall | mniip: yes |
| 10:05.24 | mniip | http://bpaste.net/raw/y2nB3tKVwNzIcc9igGxt/ |
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| 10:07.46 | petn-randall | mniip: Looks like you mixed some testing into your stable? |
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| 10:08.00 | c0ded | http://paste.debian.net/102191/ |
| 10:08.21 | mniip | petn-randall, I did? :O |
| 10:08.35 | c0ded | i shorted it, trying to make it so if any symlink is listed it shows the contents not the link info, but if ur listing the parent dir or a non symlink dir, it shows it like normal |
| 10:08.41 | c0ded | but not working how i want obv |
| 10:08.43 | mniip | well yes, that is possible |
| 10:08.43 | petn-randall | mniip: libdrm-nouveau2 only exists in jessie, not stable. |
| 10:09.03 | mniip | honestly I'm not sure why is that package even installed |
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| 10:09.45 | petn-randall | mniip: That might be the cause. Can you paste the output of aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))' |
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| 10:10.18 | mniip | woah |
| 10:10.45 | mniip | http://bpaste.net/raw/LYRFVpXuHQMh3a6GL8dR/ |
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| 10:12.43 | smoke_ | hi im trying to run debian with e17 but right now, if i use wheezy e17 isnt in the apt sources, and if i use jessie my nvidia drivers break, anyone know which one will be easier to get working? |
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| 10:13.32 | petn-randall | smoke_: Mixing releases isn't an option, you can either not use e17, or upgrade to jessie and join everyone in beta-testing the next release. |
| 10:14.09 | petn-randall | mniip: You can try to remove/downgrade those packages, probably after that fglrx-driver will install right. I honestly don't know which package specifically is the reason, so I'd just do them all. |
| 10:14.19 | smoke_ | petn-randall: i want to use jessie but the problem is my nvidia driver isnt working, i think its some error with the kernel not compiling because modprobe nvidia isnt working |
| 10:14.25 | mniip | petn-randall, which of them? |
| 10:14.34 | mniip | uh |
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| 10:14.56 | smoke_ | i tried to google info to get the nvidia drivers working on jessie but nothing is working :/ |
| 10:15.17 | petn-randall | smoke_: So you got jessie and wheezy installed, or what is your current state? |
| 10:15.19 | mniip | interesting, removing libdrm-nouveau2 has put like 50 pkgs in autoremove lits |
| 10:15.20 | mniip | list |
| 10:15.25 | smoke_ | petn-randall: jessie installed |
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| 10:15.57 | petn-randall | smoke_: Ah, head off to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, there someone might be able to help you to get the nvidia drivers to work. |
| 10:16.05 | smoke_ | the nvidia-driver installed 331.67-2 |
| 10:16.19 | smoke_ | petn-randall: k, irc.oftc.net? not freenode? |
| 10:16.39 | smoke_ | petn-randall: thanks for replying, i appreciate your help |
| 10:17.11 | Scyte | what was that app called that would suggest you a similarly named app if your apt-get install doesn't find the one you're looking for? |
| 10:17.42 | petn-randall | Scyte: 'command-not-found' |
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| 10:17.48 | Scyte | cool, thanks |
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| 10:18.34 | c0ded | hmm its like the prob im having is when i do a ls in my home dir with nothing after it, its returning that as as symlink, i guess cuz i got symlinks in my home dir? |
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| 10:18.41 | c0ded | idk, but deff not what i want heh |
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| 10:19.49 | wibrt | about squashfs: has anyone got a good example of optimizing this (http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/), especially the sort option, how do create a good sort file? |
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| 10:22.42 | mniip | is it even possible to downgrade libc? |
| 10:23.05 | mniip | when I try, it wants to remove and autoremove my whole system |
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| 10:23.41 | j0z | Hi all! Can I install steam on debian? How? |
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| 10:24.57 | deed02392 | j0z, what have you tried? |
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| 10:25.21 | deed02392 | http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb |
| 10:25.51 | bezaban | j0z: are you on wheezy? |
| 10:26.16 | j0z | yes |
| 10:26.41 | j0z | yes of course Ive tried |
| 10:26.56 | j0z | I did it once but the other time I messe it all |
| 10:27.11 | j0z | I dnt remember how I did it the other time |
| 10:27.29 | bezaban | I've tried in a variety of ways earlier and have had it working |
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| 10:27.45 | j0z | cool |
| 10:27.45 | Shadur | deed02392: I recently had to reinstall my entire system, and just installing steam from the apt repo worked |
| 10:27.54 | j0z | so I'll keep treing |
| 10:27.55 | bezaban | currently I'm using jessie on that machine and using non-free - https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
| 10:28.15 | j0z | Shadur> that happened to me too |
| 10:29.05 | j0z | deed02392, thanks I will try that |
| 10:29.33 | deed02392 | Shadur, something like that I would want the very latest package |
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| 10:33.03 | j0z | deed02392, that package doesnt work |
| 10:33.16 | j0z | it complains a glibc missing |
| 10:33.42 | j0z | is there any other way? |
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| 10:38.46 | CruX| | hello which filesystem is best for using between 2 linux machines ? |
| 10:38.55 | CruX| | network filesystem |
| 10:39.11 | CruX| | with user mode server if possible |
| 10:39.34 | j0z | STEAM_RUNTIME has been set by the user to: /home/gavioesgmail/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime |
| 10:39.34 | j0z | /home/gavioesgmail/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/gavioesgmail/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) |
| 10:39.45 | j0z | any idea please? |
| 10:40.06 | j0z | how to fiz it without messing with the all system |
| 10:40.11 | j0z | fix* |
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| 10:41.37 | Shadur | deed02392: Note that I'm running unstable. |
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| 10:43.34 | mjt | j0z: stem binary has been compiled against a more recent version of glibc. You have to either find stem compiled against older glibc, or recompile it, or install new glibc. |
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| 11:07.14 | Guest24283 | Hi guys, could you suggest me a good program to check the hardware temperatures? |
| 11:07.51 | wols | lm-sensors |
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| 11:10.19 | Guest24283 | lm-sensors is installed yet, how to run it? |
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| 11:11.11 | wols | sensor-detect for a start |
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| 11:14.33 | Guest24283 | wols, sensor-detect doesnt work on terminal |
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| 11:17.56 | Guest24283 | I found the GUY thanks |
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| 11:18.04 | Guest24283 | GUI* |
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| 11:50.03 | Lancro | Hi, Im trying to install debian from a usb stick with the dvd 1 image, for amd64 in uefi mode, It doesnt detects my ethernet card, so I cant go further, I need connection to the net..., the ethernet card is an atheros 10a1 taken from lspci, from windows is an atheros AR8171/8175, anyone can help? |
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| 11:50.57 | Walex2 | Lancro: as a rule in the case of unsupported hw, the best solution is always to use different hw. |
| 11:51.15 | Lancro | are you suggesting me to buy another laptop? |
| 11:51.15 | wols | Lancro: you do not need internet access with any debian installer. and what is the actual PCI ID, "10a1" is not it |
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| 11:51.40 | Walex2 | Lancro: USB Ethernet stick? |
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| 11:51.51 | Lancro | well, I tried installing it without internet access, and It doesnt boots in gnome3 |
| 11:52.05 | wols | Lancro: which has nothing at all to do with internet access |
| 11:52.17 | Walex2 | Lancro: if you require packages that are not on DVD 1, which is strange. |
| 11:52.19 | wols | Lancro: please answer the question |
| 11:52.29 | wols | Walex2: not strange. non-free for the videocard |
| 11:52.59 | Lancro | the pci id?, tell me the command to look at it and I will type it |
| 11:53.03 | Walex2 | wols: indeed. |
| 11:53.04 | wols | lspci -nn |
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| 11:53.53 | babilen | Lancro: https://wiki.debian.org/alx (fwiw) |
| 11:54.20 | Lancro | 1969:a0a1 |
| 11:54.22 | Walex2 | Lancro: <wols> is going to give you a nice technical answer about adding the relevant driver from somewhere. But if you are inexperienced by far the best way is to at least temporarily change the hw, by adding some external network card. |
| 11:54.25 | Lancro | 1969:10a1 |
| 11:55.07 | babilen | Lancro: Yeah, you need a newer kernel for that. Unfortunately we do not offer installation images with backported kernels at the moment, but you can install it afterwards. |
| 11:55.11 | babilen | dpkg: tell Lancro -about bdo kernel |
| 11:55.15 | wols | ,pciid 1969:a0a1 |
| 11:55.16 | judd | [1969:a0a1] is 'Unknown device' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1969:a0a1 |
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| 11:56.07 | Lancro | installing a new kernel with no internet connection is possible? |
| 11:56.10 | babilen | Lancro: If you have no internet access you can download the kernel package (and dependencies!) from https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/linux-image-amd64 + https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 11:56.35 | babilen | Lancro: Install those with "dpkg -i /path/to/the/package" |
| 11:56.40 | babilen | judd: v initramfs-tools |
| 11:56.41 | wols | Lancro: you can copy the kernel to a usb stick and install from there,. you need the link babilen just gave you, and you also need initramfstools |
| 11:56.41 | judd | Package: initramfs-tools on i386 -- squeeze: 0.98.8; squeeze-backports: 0.109.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.109.1; wheezy-backports: 0.115~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.115; sid: 0.115 |
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| 11:57.01 | babilen | Lancro: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/initramfs-tools |
| 11:57.40 | babilen | Lancro: Which graphic card do you have? |
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| 11:58.08 | Lancro | amd radeon hd 8330 |
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| 11:59.19 | babilen | Lancro: Okay, that requires firmwware (which is why gnome3 is not starting right now) -- There are multiple options, but I guess it is easiest to just grab that package too and install it manually while you are at it. |
| 11:59.38 | babilen | Lancro: That would be: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 12:00.39 | babilen | Lancro: Once you've installed all that you should be able to reboot and start Gnome3. You need to configure your network and install some additional software such as microcode packages for your computer. I'd suggest to do that now and come back once you're done with that. |
| 12:00.49 | babilen | dpkg: tell Lancro about radeon firmware |
| 12:00.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell Lancro about microcode |
| 12:01.41 | Lancro | and wifi..., well, I think I will be able to install the kernel |
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| 12:02.36 | babilen | Lancro: What's your wifi adaptor (lspci -nn) ? |
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| 12:02.57 | Lancro | 168c:0036 |
| 12:03.16 | babilen | judd: pciid 168c:0036 |
| 12:03.18 | judd | [168c:0036] is 'QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with no known kernel module in wheezy but has kernel module 'ath9k' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:0036 http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 12:03.31 | babilen | yeah, that should work with the backported kernel too |
| 12:03.48 | Lancro | ok, thanks, Im downloading everything |
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| 12:08.12 | abrotman | dan2: hiya |
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| 12:12.13 | Lancro | another problem, how do I mount the usb stick?, I only have the system prompt |
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| 12:14.17 | wols | mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ |
| 12:14.22 | wibrt | lancro, use 'dmesg' to see the 'id' |
| 12:14.31 | wols | check dmesg output if it's sdc1 or sdd1 or whatever |
| 12:14.42 | wibrt | in the example of wols 'sdc1' |
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| 12:18.28 | Lancro | dmesg shows a lot of information, like 10 pages, and I only see the usb mouse |
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| 12:18.44 | Arahael | How do I find out what happens when I press the cd eject button? |
| 12:18.48 | Arahael | What sort of event gets raised? |
| 12:19.02 | abrotman | You mean in the hardware? |
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| 12:19.23 | Arahael | abrotman: I mean in the software - does it trigger a udev event? Can I respond to it in any way? |
| 12:19.42 | abrotman | thought there was a way to watch ude |
| 12:19.44 | abrotman | udev |
| 12:19.46 | Arahael | I assume that I can, because presumably, software then tells the drive to eject. It's not ejecting though, and I'd like to know. |
| 12:19.47 | Lancro | found it, and now the message is invalid media value (0xb9) |
| 12:19.58 | Lancro | done |
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| 12:20.10 | wols | Lancro: if you plug in the usb stick the last few lines will be about the stick |
| 12:20.26 | Arahael | abrotman: Let me take a look. :) |
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| 12:20.31 | abrotman | Arahael: poke through the udev man pages |
| 12:21.32 | Arahael | abrotman: udevadm monitor. :) |
| 12:21.42 | abrotman | that wasn't so hard :) |
| 12:21.50 | TJ- | Arahael: "udeadm monitor --kernel --property" |
| 12:22.02 | TJ- | s/udeadm/udevadm/ |
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| 12:22.57 | Arahael | Hmm. Nothing shows up there. |
| 12:23.39 | Arahael | abrotman: Well, I didn't think a *button* would trigger udev. |
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| 12:24.31 | abrotman | Arahael: don't be so sure .. The drive will know if it should be locked and refuse to eject, but I'm not sure how that happens |
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| 12:24.59 | Arahael | Curious. |
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| 12:25.36 | Arahael | It's definitely not mounted. (Don't think there's a disk in it, even) |
| 12:25.42 | abrotman | Of course, there's always the paperclip trick :) |
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| 12:26.10 | Arahael | Well, "eject", the program, tends to work. |
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| 12:26.42 | Arahael | For what it's worth, I have: $ cat /sys/block/sr0/events |
| 12:26.43 | Arahael | media_change eject_request |
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| 12:27.02 | anon1746 | (3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 i686) I'm trying to mount *.mdf file with "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop ./file.mdf /mnt/folder", but it doesn't, and give this in dmesg: "ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format.". Am I doing something wrong? |
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| 12:28.11 | buu | mdf files aren't iso9660 formats? |
| 12:28.52 | buu | Mirror Disk File (MDF) is a proprietary disc image file format developed for Alcohol 120%, an optical disc authoring program. Daemon Tools, MagicISO, PowerISO, and PowerDVD can also read the MDF format |
| 12:29.02 | riot | ohai. is it possible to run 64 bit apps with an i686 unstable? |
| 12:29.14 | abrotman | dpkg: tell anon1746 about mdf |
| 12:29.56 | anon1746 | okay, I will convert it... I was confused, because many internet howtos say that it will work like that |
| 12:30.07 | Arahael | Seems to be bug #713877 - I guess that answers my question. |
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| 12:31.04 | buu | riot: Did you install a 64 bit kernel? |
| 12:32.32 | riot | buu: hmm, no. not yet. Am i getting this right? Essentially i could install a 64 kernel and continue to use my 32 bit userland without modification? |
| 12:32.55 | mjt | yes riot |
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| 12:33.44 | riot | just a quick kernel change and i have 64-compatibility? (I'd still be laden with inefficient 32 bit code, agreed, but then i could install/start 64 bit packages?? sleeek) |
| 12:33.58 | mjt | inefficient? |
| 12:34.08 | mjt | !multiarch |
| 12:34.08 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
| 12:34.11 | abrotman | you know .. because the number is lower .. |
| 12:34.22 | mjt | ah :) |
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| 12:34.29 | Arahael | Hmm, guess it's not that bug... Because the fix for that bug doesn't work for me. (udev issue) |
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| 12:37.15 | Arahael | Hurray! Worked, so I had to echo '2000' into /sys/block/sr0/events_poll_msec. |
| 12:37.25 | abrotman | makes perfect sense .. |
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| 12:38.24 | Arahael | abrotman: But presumeably not many people do this, yet they don't have an issue? |
| 12:38.37 | abrotman | that was sarcasm .. |
| 12:38.59 | Lancro | everything works fine, including the wifi, now Ill change gnome3 for lxde, thanks people!!! |
| 12:39.11 | Arahael | abrotman: I must be getting tired. :) |
| 12:39.58 | Arahael | There was actually no disk in teh drive, btw. |
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| 12:47.54 | paul_grozav | Hello, how come I can print on my LaserJet 3052 printer but I can not scan a document from it ? How can I solve this? |
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| 12:48.40 | abrotman | paul_grozav: might want to also tell us which version of Linux you're using and which drivers |
| 12:49.17 | paul_grozav | Debian 7.4 - no drivers - just the ones the operating system has |
| 12:49.42 | abrotman | those are drivers .. |
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| 12:50.28 | paul_grozav | abrotman: Windows vista,7,8 has problems with this printer/scanner, we can only scan from a windows xp computer ... can we make it work on linux ? |
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| 12:51.02 | abrotman | paul_grozav: I couldn't answer that. I was suggesting the channel would need more information to start helping you. I haven't owned a home printer in almost 15 years. |
| 12:51.15 | abrotman | (or scanner, for the record) |
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| 12:52.26 | paul_grozav | what information is needed? Maybe I can provide it ... |
| 12:53.14 | abrotman | What have you tried so far? Which programs? Have you tried the hplip tools? |
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| 12:55.24 | wibrt | paul, check "linux printing" on a search engine (there a org site with lots of info of supported printers) |
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| 12:56.50 | wibrt | paul, didn't read everything, hplip is a good suggestions if the laserjet is an HP |
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| 12:57.16 | zykotick9 | paul_grozav: keep in mind, the printing/scanning will be separate. printing handled by CUPS, while scanning will be sane. if it's scanner you're having problems with, check for sane support for your printer/scanner. |
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| 12:59.15 | paul_grozav | Thank you all, i'm trying with hplip as we speak, I hope it works |
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| 13:02.35 | zykotick9 | realizes, with hplip, his statement might not be true... |
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| 13:06.42 | codepython777 | is there a way to move to systemd without rebooting? |
| 13:07.02 | abrotman | no |
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| 13:38.42 | paul_grozav | During the instalation of the latest hplip drivers I decided to uninstall the old drivers and install the latest ones, the final outcome is that I can now scan my documents from the HP LasterJet 3052 network printer using my Debian 7.4 operating system. Thank you for your help! |
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| 13:41.37 | Iridos | \o/ |
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| 13:42.50 | AndreeeCZ | hi. Trying to install debian on a 4gb flash drive, however the installer falsely claims that the flash drive is 14.8mb in size. This is the second usb drive im trying, the previous one had same problem. |
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| 13:43.13 | AndreeeCZ | There is 4gb of unallocated space on it (I formatted it with gparted) |
| 13:43.27 | gdm85 | have you guys experience with heirloom-mailx? |
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| 13:44.18 | petn-randall | gdm85: No surveys please, you can ask your real question. :) |
| 13:44.42 | gdm85 | petn-randall: yeah meanwhile I was thinking and trying to write a good question |
| 13:44.46 | somiaj | AndreeeCZ: you do realize that usb is slow and not the best medium to install on and you might get better preformance from using a live image with some sort of persistance? |
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| 13:45.38 | gdm85 | petn-randall: ideally I would like to have a mail tool that will just spool the mails locally, so I now I am reading about heirloom-mailx |
| 13:45.49 | gdm85 | (since it comes by default, I guess it's a sane deafult) |
| 13:46.03 | AndreeeCZ | somiaj, i know all that. Its still the best option for my usecase. |
| 13:46.05 | somiaj | gdm85: what about fetchmail? |
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| 13:46.25 | gdm85 | somiaj: could be. I am open to all options right now. I used fetchmail a bit in the past |
| 13:46.37 | somiaj | AndreeeCZ: I'm unsure why the installer is not seeing the usbdrive the correct size, do you have a linus machine and maybe you'll just want to debootstrap and do a manual install? |
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| 13:47.16 | gdm85 | the methods I'd like to use are: filesystem spooling (with dirty locks, probably, since this would be shared like if on NFS) or UNIX sockets (if it even exists such method) |
| 13:47.17 | AndreeeCZ | somiaj, yes, i'll propably have to do that. Maybe there's some ready installed debian images? |
| 13:48.12 | AndreeeCZ | hm, its not running at full blast anyway even with performance gvnor |
| 13:48.39 | somiaj | AndreeeCZ: nope, the closest you are going to get for ready to use images are the live images at live.debian.net. Again you might get better preformance using the live image with persistance than doing a full install. |
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| 13:49.46 | AndreeeCZ | i need to install software on it |
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| 13:49.59 | somiaj | AndreeeCZ: full persistance of live images allows that |
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| 13:50.21 | AndreeeCZ | somiaj, and configure various stuff? |
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| 13:50.37 | paul_grozav | does anyone know why I don't see this icon( http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AQzMY1gQIPM/USFbQFik8uI/AAAAAAAAGUM/efJC2vKOKM0/s1600/scrolling+wheel+arrow.jpg) when clicking the middle(wheel) button on my mouse? I am using debian 7.4 and KDE and firefox as a browser. I used to do this on ubuntu I think, I used to click the wheel and then release it and i was able to scroll by moving the mouse icon in one direction or another ... |
| 13:51.19 | malmelmil | Hello, I am having a much worst performance (login problems) with my Wheezy on an Atheros AR9462, than on windows8 with the same card |
| 13:51.22 | somiaj | AndreeeCZ: basic approach. http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html -- cp the live image to the usb drive, run a paritition tool, and make two more partitions on the drive. Give the filesystems (use ext2) the names as documented, boot the live image with the persistance flag and you have full persistance, so you can install different stuff on the live image and have it rembered |
| 13:51.53 | AndreeeCZ | somiaj, ok thanks i'll do that |
| 13:51.54 | paul_grozav | paul_grozav: Please see: http://www.gooli.org/blog/disable-scroll-wheel-clicking-in-firefox/ :D |
| 13:53.24 | malmelmil | Hello, I am having a much worst performance (login problems) with my Wheezy on an Atheros AR9462, than on windows8 with the same card |
| 13:53.39 | malmelmil | (sorry for the repeated post, it was a mistake) |
| 13:53.39 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Login problems don't sound like a performance problem. What problems are you observing? |
| 13:54.08 | malmelmil | petn-randall yes, what I mean is that most of the time I cannot login to two different routers |
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| 13:54.29 | malmelmil | and I can login on another laptop with wheezy to both routers, this other laptop has AR9285 |
| 13:54.37 | malmelmil | is there any other detail I should provide ? |
| 13:54.39 | petn-randall | malmelmil: What routers? How do you normally log in? |
| 13:54.40 | somiaj | AndreeeCZ: For the best preformance on a usb drive I would almost consider learning how to make your own live image with the exact packages you need and use /home persistance. But it would require learning how to make custom live images to fit what you need |
| 13:55.02 | AndreeeCZ | somiaj, its not that mission critical |
| 13:55.04 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Are we talking about wifi routers? |
| 13:55.16 | somiaj | AndreeeCZ: but using live-rw persistance (full persistance) will work just fine and might give you better preformance than an actuall install |
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| 13:55.52 | malmelmil | petn-randall, mine and my neighbourg's , I just use the syste'ms gui, input the password when asked and it does not connect, at some point it asks for the passw again but I am confident it works (it works on win8 same computer and another computer next to it) yes, sorry, wifi routers, yes |
| 13:56.16 | malmelmil | I am confident passws are correct I mean |
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| 13:57.24 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Maybe you're just missing firmware for the wifi to work properly? What doesn /var/log/kern.log show when you try to connect? |
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| 13:58.19 | malmelmil | sorry for the basic question, but what would be the right command to obtain the content of that file ? |
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| 14:00.21 | malmelmil | ok petn-randall I just sudoed with geany on that logfile |
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| 14:00.31 | malmelmil | what should I look for ? |
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| 14:04.12 | malmelmil | now it apparently connected |
| 14:04.34 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Sorry for the delay. The best way to do it is: 1) sudo -i to log in as root 2) run 'tail -f /var/log/kern.log', you can hit a few times enter so you can easier see what got updated 3) try to log in, and observe those new lines where the tail command runs. |
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| 14:05.48 | malmelmil | excuse me petn-randall but I'd like to add that in running dmesg I can see it times out attempting to associate, and at some point it did associate giving: RX AssocResp from e4:..... (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=5) |
| 14:05.54 | malmelmil | let me do as you suggest |
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| 14:06.49 | malmelmil | the command gives me Wlan0:associated |
| 14:06.50 | malmelmil | and |
| 14:07.01 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Sorry, gotta scoot. Maybe someone else can carry on helping you from here on. |
| 14:07.03 | malmelmil | wlan0: no IPv6 routers present at the moment |
| 14:07.11 | malmelmil | aw, thank you anyway |
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| 14:12.15 | A|an | A while back, mention was made (and I believe it was here) of a tool with which one could pare winxp down to, like, 300 M, and thereby greatly reduce a VM's size. Can anyone recall what the tool was called?? |
| 14:12.58 | A|an | (actually, I think it was even less than 300 M) |
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| 14:13.03 | Arahael | A|an: I don't know, however I'm pretty sure that VMware has the ability to share RAM between multiple windows VM's. |
| 14:13.16 | Arahael | A|an: And thus indirectly reduce a VM's size in that regard. |
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| 14:14.22 | A|an | I bookmarked the tool link, now I can't seem to locate it...it sounded like a hellava thang; it would cut winxp down to a skeleton |
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| 14:25.52 | dury | hi there channel |
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| 14:29.13 | dury | my integrated webcam in lenovo y500 it's not setup properly yet did type command dmesg | grep Lenovo |
| 14:30.15 | dury | I got this result [ 4.221189] usb 4-1: Product: Lenovo EasyCamera |
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| 14:30.17 | dury | [ 11.304110] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Lenovo EasyCamera (0bda:58dd) |
| 14:30.17 | dury | [ 11.312764] input: Lenovo EasyCamera as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb4/4-1/4-1:1.0/input/input14 |
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| 14:30.26 | A|an | Arahael: I *think* it was this: http://superuser.com/questions/37528/bare-minimum-hard-drive-space-to-install-windows-xp-sp3-professional |
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| 14:31.03 | mtn | dury: did you try using cheese? |
| 14:31.28 | dury | mtn: not success |
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| 14:31.51 | mtn | dury: error message? any more info? |
| 14:32.17 | dury | mtn: hang on |
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| 14:34.31 | xelan | Can I expect a lot of trouble trying to install python-scipy in a higher version? (0.11 i.e.) I'm using Debian Wheezy |
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| 14:35.01 | dury | mtn: did type cheese through terminal and says "Error starting streaming on device /dev/video0 |
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| 14:35.23 | themill | xelan: you'd break lots of packages that rely on scipy. If you really need a newer version then use either a jessie chroot or a virtualenv |
| 14:35.40 | aswen | hi there, how can I convince preseed to make me a tmpfs /tmp filesystem? |
| 14:35.50 | xelan | themill, awww...ok thank you :/ |
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| 14:36.45 | ctmjr | dury: what is the output of ls -al /dev/video* |
| 14:37.22 | dury | ctmjr: hang on |
| 14:37.33 | hesco | is there a resource which will report on whether a particular piece of UEFI / Secure Boot hardware will successfully support a debian install? |
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| 14:38.38 | dury | ctmjr: crw-rw---T+ 1 root video 81, 0 May 28 10:45 /dev//video0 |
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| 14:40.58 | dury | ctmjr: crw-rw---T+ 1 root video 81, 0 May 28 10:45 /dev/video0 |
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| 14:41.25 | petn-randall | hesco: There's no central library of installation reports, AFAIK. UEFI is not a problem as long as secure boot is deactivated. |
| 14:43.05 | dury | ctmjr: so what do you reckon then? |
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| 14:43.56 | ctmjr | dury: try this "cat /dev/video0 >> test.avi" let it run a minute or 2 then "ctrl+c" |
| 14:44.32 | dury | ctmjr: as root? |
| 14:44.40 | ctmjr | no |
| 14:44.45 | dury | right |
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| 14:46.13 | dury | ctmjr: cat: /dev/video0: Invalid argument |
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| 14:47.26 | dury | ctmjr: see? |
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| 14:50.26 | petn-randall | ctmjr: That can't work, since .avi is a container format and needs a header to make sense out of the stream. |
| 14:51.07 | petn-randall | dury: Is your user part of the "video" group? |
| 14:51.07 | buu | Wouldn't you want mpeg? |
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| 14:51.58 | dury | petn-randall: what you mean? |
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| 14:53.13 | petn-randall | dury: The permissions mandate that the user you're trying to access the camera is part part of the video group. If your user isn't part of it, the OS won't let you access it. |
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| 14:53.52 | donttrustem | anyone had an issue with the example of what a font looks like not displaying in the @font-your-face font browser? |
| 14:54.08 | petn-randall | dury: run 'id youruser', it should contain a list of groups where video is listed. If not simply run 'adduser youruser video', then log out and in again, and test it again. |
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| 14:55.37 | hesco | petn-randall: is de-activating UEFI a BIOS option or something. This is my first new purchase of comsumer hardware since MS started crippling hardware. |
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| 14:56.26 | petn-randall | hesco: I don't recommend disabling UEFI altogether, just disable secure boot. It's probably somewhere in the UEFI setup menu. |
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| 14:57.00 | IamRob | Hi so I think my server was attacked and breached. my auth.log shows hundreds of failed passwords attempts from various IPs from around the world. I think they may have gotten access as a folder containing minecraft servers was deleted. I have changed the password for the root. What i find strange is that they deleted a folder containing minecraft folders and that was the only fodler delted. |
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| 14:57.49 | dury | petn-randall: as root |
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| 14:58.38 | petn-randall | IamRob: Failed password attempts are something completely normal for an internet facing server. Do you see a successful login from 'last' that you know isn't from you? |
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| 14:59.05 | petn-randall | dury: If your user isn't in the video group, yes, you need to run adduser as root. |
| 14:59.22 | dury | right |
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| 15:00.43 | IamRob | petn-randall: no only my IP is shown in the last command |
| 15:00.46 | petn-randall | dury: Was it in the group? |
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| 15:01.11 | petn-randall | IamRob: Then they either got root access, or didn't get shell access at all. |
| 15:01.25 | dury | petn-randall: it says that is already of "video" |
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| 15:01.36 | IamRob | petn-randall: they would have got root access if they got in as that is what the failed passwords were for |
| 15:01.59 | dury | already member, sorry |
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| 15:02.46 | lanodan | Is there a way to do a CPU burn ? (take all the CPU ressource) |
| 15:03.07 | petn-randall | lanodan: Conveniently, the package is called cpuburn ... :) |
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| 15:03.30 | dury | petn-randall: so now log out+ |
| 15:03.45 | lanodan | petn-randall: Okay, seems logic xD |
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| 15:06.58 | lanodan | petn-randall: I installed it but I can't execute it |
| 15:07.48 | petn-randall | lanodan: What do you mean? |
| 15:08.32 | KidCartouche | hi, would anyone know in which pacakges the proc tools are on a squeeze ? procldd / procstack and the likes |
| 15:08.35 | KidCartouche | ? |
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| 15:10.36 | jelly | KidCartouche: are you positive those are correct names of the executables? |
| 15:10.37 | jordanm | !tell KidCartouche about apt-file |
| 15:10.43 | IamRob | anyway to check the last logins as root? |
| 15:10.46 | jelly | judd: file bin/procldd |
| 15:10.47 | IamRob | and the ips |
| 15:10.49 | jordanm | IamRob: "last" |
| 15:10.50 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 15:10.58 | jelly | judd: file bin/procldd --release squeeze |
| 15:11.01 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
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| 15:11.09 | jelly | KidCartouche: doesn't seem to exist in debian |
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| 15:11.22 | IamRob | jordanm: does that show root though? petn-randall just said that it doesnt |
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| 15:11.57 | Rizzlah | anybody know of a pandora clone, or maybe something like subsonic, which is free? |
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| 15:12.56 | petn-randall | IamRob, jordanm, no root logins are logged there, too. But if you're root you can easily wipe your traces, since you have write access to those logs. |
| 15:13.20 | IamRob | hmm |
| 15:13.47 | petn-randall | Well, if you have evidence that they gained root, all hands are lost anyway, and you should do a clean install. |
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| 15:14.32 | IamRob | I have changed the root password and there is no sign of anyone else having root access |
| 15:14.42 | IamRob | and i still have access |
| 15:15.20 | dury | adduser user4 video |
| 15:15.20 | dury | The user `user4' is already a member of `video'. |
| 15:15.28 | jordanm | IamRob: if you really think a box has been compromised, the only real solution is to wipe it |
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| 15:16.07 | IamRob | I dont know if it has or not though… the only thing that happened is that one folder was deleted but it was a specific folder containing minecraft servers |
| 15:16.08 | ido370 | iamrob: maybe you can detect any change with chrootkit? |
| 15:16.32 | IamRob | ido370: chrootkit? |
| 15:16.36 | ido370 | yes |
| 15:17.03 | wibrt | ido370: or rkhunter (maybe also clamav) |
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| 15:18.10 | SylvieLorxu | Hey everyone. I was wondering how "sane" it would be to use Debian Squeeze for a new installation instead of Debian Wheezy? From what I see it should still be supported, but are there any things I should know besides less up-to-date packages? |
| 15:18.16 | IamRob | ido370: what is it and how do i use it? |
| 15:18.20 | SylvieLorxu | It's for a server |
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| 15:20.24 | dury | petn-randall: would you please |
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| 15:21.27 | ido370 | iamrob: it would have helped if you already had it installed before, since you could have let it check for differences. |
| 15:21.36 | Iridos | SylvieLorxu, it's not supported for much longer |
| 15:21.40 | jelly | SylvieLorxu: it will be supported by different people, with quality yet to be proven |
| 15:21.42 | dury | be back later |
| 15:21.47 | IamRob | ido370: so its of no use now? |
| 15:21.48 | jelly | !squeeze-lts |
| 15:21.48 | dpkg | Security support of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" - for all packages in all architectures - will end on 2014-05-31. The Long Term Support (LTS) project will continue security support for the i386 and amd64 architectures until 2016-02-06. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00119.html and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. This volunteer effort needs YOUR help! #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:21.59 | ido370 | iamrob: no, i don think so |
| 15:22.04 | IamRob | :/ |
| 15:22.31 | SylvieLorxu | jelly: Ah, I see. So that's probably not the most sensical choice for something used in a production environment. Thanks! |
| 15:22.32 | Iridos | ooh, didn't know about the LTS project |
| 15:22.49 | ido370 | iamrob: but you could try ofcourse... itś not that i know every possible option or parameter of the program :) |
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| 15:23.20 | jelly | SylvieLorxu: unless you already have squeeze installations in production, I guess |
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| 15:24.42 | petn-randall | SylvieLorxu: Wheezy is the recommended way to go, unless you have real special requirements, like expensive certification of the OS which you'd like to avoid for several years. wheezy comes with "better" security support, and newer tools. |
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| 15:25.28 | SylvieLorxu | petn-randall: Okay, thank you |
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| 15:26.51 | __odie | hi, ive been trying to install debian onto an old macbook pro (which worked ok) but on the first boot i get an error and the screen freezes: fb: conflicting fb hw usage nouveaufb vs EFI VGA |
| 15:27.09 | mjt | is it possible to set up debian so it suspend-to-ram after, say, 10min, and hybernate after half a hour? |
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| 15:27.56 | surak | __odie: delete gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode from ur grub line |
| 15:27.58 | petn-randall | mjt: Looking for such a setup, too, tell me if you make progress on that one. |
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| 15:28.15 | surak | __odie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169912/fb-conflicting-fb-hw-usage-inteldrmfb-vs-efi-vga-removing-generic-driver |
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| 15:28.25 | __odie | surak, how can i do that without a working system? |
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| 15:28.45 | surak | your system gets to grub if you get an FB error, change it in grub itself |
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| 15:28.54 | __odie | because grub doesnt show up |
| 15:29.06 | surak | __odie: ahhh thats a larger problem hehe |
| 15:29.22 | __odie | i boot into refind |
| 15:29.23 | __odie | which lists debian and mac os |
| 15:30.08 | __odie | and then i believe it just starts the kernel image |
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| 15:30.19 | __odie | without bothering to call grub at all |
| 15:30.26 | mjt | redind, iirc, tries to load kernel directly |
| 15:30.27 | mjt | yeah |
| 15:30.39 | surak | __odie: you could boot into a live deb cd and install grub |
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| 15:30.53 | mjt | so you can help refind to load it properly |
| 15:31.28 | mjt | there's a file, /boot/refind_something.conf (again, iirc), which you can use to add additional kernel parameters |
| 15:32.16 | mjt | or like that, install grub and it will be another efi boot item |
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| 15:32.38 | __odie | i installed grub with the netinstall afaik |
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| 15:36.40 | __odie | can i do something like arch-chroot in debian with the installation medium? |
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| 15:39.29 | jelly | __odie: what does it do? |
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| 15:39.56 | mtn | __odie: use rescue mode from the installer |
| 15:40.12 | peetaur2 | jelly: it mounts dev, etc. for you, which is nice. And I think it also has some hack that makes it not required for the shell to be in the chroot. |
| 15:40.24 | surak | __odie: rescue mode + reinstall grub is still what id say :) |
| 15:40.34 | __odie | surak, im on it |
| 15:40.52 | surak | __odie: i do not have expertise with mac, just a heads up :( |
| 15:41.10 | __odie | surak, np, appreciating any help |
| 15:44.14 | __odie | surak, ive chosen my installation disk in the rescue mode |
| 15:44.22 | __odie | now i should select reinstall GRUB |
| 15:44.28 | __odie | or execute shell in /dev/sda4 |
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| 15:44.55 | surak | __odie: reinstall grub is the method i would use, someone else mentioned fixing refind but i dont use that method |
| 15:45.18 | surak | __odie: as long as you are only on 1 disk you are fine letting grub do its thing |
| 15:45.39 | __odie | surak, so i should install it on /dev/sda? |
| 15:45.49 | __odie | or on the partition? |
| 15:45.53 | surak | sda |
| 15:46.00 | surak | sda installs to the MBR which is what you want |
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| 15:46.13 | mjt | there's no mbr on a mac |
| 15:46.25 | surak | crap hehe, sda will work tho? |
| 15:46.39 | mjt | that'll be a uefi boot partition on sda, yes |
| 15:46.56 | surak | grub-install --force /dev/sda |
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| 15:47.00 | surak | yes sda |
| 15:47.08 | mjt | don't force it please |
| 15:47.11 | surak | http://askubuntu.com/questions/13554/how-to-reinstall-or-recover-grub-mbr-on-an-intel-mac |
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| 15:47.21 | mjt | it it doesn't want to work it wont even if you apply force :) |
| 15:47.23 | surak | yeah forcing could be wrong, that was a copy and paste |
| 15:47.42 | __odie | doesnt change anything |
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| 15:48.06 | surak | __odie: check that link |
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| 15:51.32 | linuxuz3r | how do i uninstall nvidia drivers completely |
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| 15:52.31 | surak | linuxuz3r: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/11/msg00605.html |
| 15:52.35 | surak | aptitude purge |
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| 15:53.08 | surak | linuxuz3r: that works for deb non-free packages, not sure which you have |
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| 15:54.54 | __odie | surak, trying to get into the system with supergrub |
| 15:55.19 | surak | __odie: hope it works :) |
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| 15:58.24 | linuxuz3r | can someone help me install nouveau drivers |
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| 16:00.29 | samael | hello |
| 16:00.35 | linuxuz3r | hi |
| 16:00.37 | surak | :) |
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| 16:00.49 | samael | I got a weird apt error: http://paste.debian.net/102251/ any hint? |
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| 16:01.07 | mtn | linuxuz3r: did you look in synaptic or do aptitude search? |
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| 16:03.20 | linuxuz3r | mtn, i cant seem to boot to gnome shell after it thoug |
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| 16:07.33 | omilun | hello |
| 16:08.11 | omilun | i installed ice dove on debian but i can not chat with icedove |
| 16:08.32 | omilun | i can add mail |
| 16:08.33 | omilun | only |
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| 16:10.35 | lisca | hi |
| 16:10.48 | lisca | how long does a new package typically spend in NEW queue? |
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| 16:13.20 | dondelelcaro | lisca: anywhere from days to 2-3 weeks; it requires manual review, and so it depends on the availability of FTP masters to review the package |
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| 16:13.45 | dondelelcaro | lisca: usually if it's longer than that, there's a problem with the package (unless there are a lot of packages which are that old too) |
| 16:14.43 | lisca | dondelelcaro: mine are around ~2 weeks old and many are around that old. I guess I should just be a bit more patient :) |
| 16:14.54 | omilun | any body help me? |
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| 16:17.33 | dondelelcaro | lisca: you can always bribe an ftp master! ;-) |
| 16:17.39 | dondelelcaro | (which isn't me, BTW) |
| 16:18.39 | dondelelcaro | lisca: but yeah, I think they may have just gotten behind... it happens |
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| 17:09.50 | linuxuz3r_ | got it working now |
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| 17:12.27 | surak | linuxuz3r_: hehe tried to get back to u but u were gone, glad u got it |
| 17:12.36 | surak | you* sorry |
| 17:12.39 | linuxuz3r_ | how do i upgrade a single package |
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| 17:15.11 | linuxuz3r_ | surak how do i add my user to sudoer |
| 17:15.31 | surak | linuxuz3r_: nano /etc/sudoers |
| 17:15.42 | surak | You will have to look up the syntax, very simple tho |
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| 17:15.58 | Volto | i'd recmomend to use "visudo" instead of editing the file directly. visudo will ensure you haven't broken the syntax |
| 17:16.09 | Ool | +1 |
| 17:16.27 | Ool | and perhaps you just need to add your user to the sudo group |
| 17:16.36 | surak | linuxuz3r_: Volto's method is safer |
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| 17:19.03 | dan2 | abrotman: howdy |
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| 17:30.01 | wfq | hi guys |
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| 17:39.47 | _odie | directly after the installation my eth0 worked fine, now i can't get dhcp anymore |
| 17:40.14 | _odie | i installed xorg and xfce4 |
| 17:40.45 | surak | _odie: did you set the interface to DHCP? |
| 17:41.08 | _odie | dhcp config is fine i think |
| 17:41.29 | surak | did you have anything setup in /etc/network/interfaces conflicting? |
| 17:41.53 | _odie | not that i know of |
| 17:42.22 | surak | _odie: wish I had xfce still installed but I dont, and I do not remember if it has a network manager control app |
| 17:42.29 | _odie | it doesn't :D |
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| 17:43.09 | _odie | ifup eth0 says: No DHCPOFFERS received |
| 17:43.24 | surak | _odie: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager go to XFCE and use its network manager |
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| 17:44.02 | surak | surak: https://packages.debian.org/source/network-manager-applet |
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| 17:45.26 | _odie | surak: i can't install this because the machine has no network anymore |
| 17:45.37 | _odie | i think it updated some kernel module |
| 17:45.38 | grok | i think xfce's network manager applet is included in network-manager-gnome. |
| 17:46.16 | surak | _odie: you could setup your eth0 manually in /etc/network/interfaces as a temporary solution to install the network manager |
| 17:46.46 | Cueball | What is the best way to upgrade my server from 32bit to 64bit? The hardware is already 64bit but the original install was 32bit. |
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| 17:47.13 | surak | _odie: i would try it in console only mode first as a test to see if its software or other problem |
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| 17:47.16 | _odie | surak: i use the configuration which worked before |
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| 17:47.51 | TJ- | Cueball: you can run the existing 32-bit userland on a 64-bit kernel for starters |
| 17:47.51 | j0z | how to install steam on debian? |
| 17:48.11 | Mousey | with apt-get |
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| 17:48.20 | zir0faive | sudo apt-get install steam |
| 17:48.23 | surak | _odie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1156441 |
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| 17:49.02 | surak | comment out a line in your dhclient.conf |
| 17:49.04 | _odie | static address doesn't woe either |
| 17:49.11 | j0z | thanks |
| 17:49.17 | zleslie | What is the fastest way to turn a directory of packages into a repo? What can I use to generate the Release and Packages files? |
| 17:49.37 | Mousey | what a good question! |
| 17:49.48 | Mousey | waits for someone smarter to answer (cuz createrepo ain't it) |
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| 17:51.03 | _odie | i have no dhclient conf |
| 17:51.04 | TJ- | zleslie: "dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz" |
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| 17:51.40 | linuxuz3r | how do i install steam |
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| 17:51.54 | Cueball | TJ-: Ok. So will I have to install the kernel manually or can I do some apt magic? |
| 17:52.26 | surak | _odie: /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf this is my deb config for dhclient |
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| 17:54.32 | j0z | whois j0z |
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| 17:54.40 | j0z | sorry |
| 17:55.10 | Cueball | forgot the / j0z :) |
| 17:55.12 | zleslie | TJ-: That will work for now, thank you |
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| 17:56.04 | j0z | I did it becouse I though Ive lost connection |
| 17:56.21 | j0z | just to check if I was still on |
| 17:56.37 | TJ- | zleslie: You can then point apt sources to the local directory containing the packages with something like "deb file:/path/to/my/packages ./" |
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| 17:57.22 | malmelmil | Hello, I am livetesting my new laptop which has an Nvidia 720M (Optimus I believe) it works well but I'd like to test advanced graphic card features. I am running glxgears and getting around 60.000 fps. Is this an ok result? is there other ways to test it ? thank you |
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| 17:57.41 | Cueball | TJ-: Just looked and found the amd64 kernel in aptitude. I shall go install that. Any idea's on reinstalling packages for 64bit? |
| 17:57.43 | pupil | good evening :) |
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| 17:57.51 | malmelmil | livetesting with wheezy, sorry |
| 17:57.58 | _odie | i get some weird error in dmesg > aborted loading rtl_nic/rtl8168e.fw (no found?) |
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| 17:58.18 | malmelmil | let me know If I can improve my question and/or add further details, sorry for interrupting ongoing conversations |
| 17:59.35 | TJ- | Cueball: You'd have to do a parallel install and then switch to it, by duplicating the installed packages ("dpkg --get-selections" and "dpkg --set-selections") and the configurations ("/etc/") |
| 17:59.47 | petn-randall | malmelmil: Install a game that involves OpenGL graphics, like supertuxkart or flightgear. |
| 17:59.52 | abrotman | dan2: msg please, or #debian-offtopic |
| 18:00.12 | malmelmil | ok petn-randall I will try this now |
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| 18:00.28 | malmelmil | thanks |
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| 18:01.13 | _odie | surak: so lspci -v says i have ethernet controller with module r8169 loaded, so kernel should be ok? |
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| 18:01.32 | Cueball | TJ-: That's what my 1st idea was. |
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| 18:02.23 | Cueball | I suppose I should start a plan for this then. |
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| 18:03.06 | surak | ohhh u have 8169, u may need nonfree drivers |
| 18:03.29 | surak | _odie: u already had drivers working on this right? |
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| 18:05.53 | _odie | surak: i dunno really i did a fresh net install during installation i could fetch packets etc |
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| 18:07.05 | surak | _odie: if a netinstall worked that is good, i would add the non-free repos to your apt.sources and get the most recent firmware |
| 18:07.30 | surak | _odie: after that I am almost out of ideas :/ |
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| 18:07.57 | _odie | surak: lol how? i can't ping anything |
| 18:09.21 | surak | You could do a new netinstall hehe with the missing firmware, or you could add the firmware from a usb stick |
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| 18:11.11 | surak | _odie: I have to go to a work meeting, but if I think of anything Ill certainly tell you :) best of luck until then! |
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| 18:11.41 | _odie | surak: i booted from grub now it works |
| 18:11.56 | _odie | booted from rescue grub usb last times |
| 18:11.57 | _odie | lol |
| 18:12.05 | surak | haha wow lol |
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| 18:37.12 | drywheat | i've set a user nofile hard limit to 32_768, but whenever the i start a process as that user, the /proc/<pid/limits file reports a much higher value |
| 18:37.22 | drywheat | specifically, 65549 |
| 18:37.24 | drywheat | what gives? |
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| 18:39.42 | sKeiths | i figured out my mistake re: login manager. I use kde, so i wrongly assumed i should use kdm for login. now alot wiser and using gdm3 to login for my kde desktop :) |
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| 18:40.50 | ojtimsen | drywheat, how have you tried to set the sysctl value? |
| 18:41.59 | drywheat | ojtimsen: the sysctl value is static. i have hunch my process (haproxy) is setting the ulimit value dynamically during runtime based on a setting in its config file |
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| 18:42.34 | drywheat | i don't observe this behavior with other processes, like collectd for instance |
| 18:42.48 | ojtimsen | which user permissions is haproxy running with? enough rights to set such a value? |
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| 18:45.42 | drywheat | process launches as 'root', sets up sockets, chdir into a jail dir and then switches (setuid, setgid) to the 'haproxy' user with limited perms |
| 18:46.01 | drywheat | so it should be able to affect the HARD ulimit value dynamically as root |
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| 18:47.27 | ojtimsen | yeah should, but I have not such a setup so I have no clue to be honest |
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| 18:51.58 | drywheat | ojtimsen: i'll check the haproxy channel, thanks for the feedback |
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| 18:57.48 | __odie | how recommended is it to run an ati proprietary driver? |
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| 18:58.35 | __odie | under windows the gpu fan spins down as soon as the driver is loaded (which isnt the case when i use the stndard linux module) |
| 18:58.46 | mtn | __odie: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 18:59.02 | __odie | mtn, im reading this article right now |
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| 18:59.16 | mtn | __odie: then why ask how? |
| 18:59.43 | __odie | question is if the proprietary driver is an improvement |
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| 19:00.22 | mtn | __odie: depends on your situation. many people think so, but may not be worth the hassle for you. |
| 19:01.33 | ojtimsen | using the prop. driver should control fan speed after kernel module gets loaded during boot-up |
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| 19:02.56 | ojtimsen | the question for some people is, if prop. software could be a problem due to closed sources, same people run windows drivers without this complains |
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| 19:12.17 | nmschulte | Does anyone know of a good dBase DBF viewer? |
| 19:12.28 | Psi-Jack | None, really. :) |
| 19:12.41 | nmschulte | terrible. |
| 19:12.43 | nmschulte | :) |
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| 19:13.05 | Psi-Jack | You'll have to look for a terrible DBF viewer. There's no possability of a good one. heh |
| 19:13.45 | nmschulte | thanks I suppose. libreoffice calc works well enough for now |
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| 19:14.39 | Psi-Jack | cringes |
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| 19:20.09 | mriou | hi, I'm trying to setup systemd on debian wheezy but when I install the package it uninstalls openssh-server so I can't access the machine anymore afterward, someone knows a solution to that problem? |
| 19:20.37 | mriou | similarly, when I re-install openssh-server right after, it removes systemd |
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| 19:22.12 | __odie | ojtimsen, hm i dunno i use linux because of the comfort in developing |
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| 19:22.34 | __odie | ojtimsen, so if i have to use a prop driver to achieve more comfort id do that :D |
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| 19:23.19 | alternut | what's a good http front end for a headless server? I'm looking for like a basic home server/nas and etc |
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| 19:24.23 | ojtimsen | if you use and IDE like Eclipse or Intellij I would tend to use prop. drivers, my experience with nouveau besides of same fan problem as you mentioned |
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| 19:25.39 | __odie | ojtimsen, nooo VIM for like everything :) |
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| 19:30.48 | doublehp | how to know have cryptsetup version 1.6+ ? |
| 19:33.01 | Mousey | dpkg -l | grep cryptsetup |
| 19:33.01 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep cryptsetup |
| 19:33.07 | Mousey | dpkg cryptsetup |
| 19:33.09 | dpkg | Linux Unified Key Setup (LUKS) is a disk encryption specification with a platform-independent format. http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/ . To access on Microsoft Windows systems, see http://freeotfe.org/ and <ext2read>. |
| 19:33.22 | Mousey | neat |
| 19:33.26 | Mousey | dpkg++ |
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| 19:56.16 | atrapado | I think that apt-get should warn when a reboot/shutdown is needed (e.g. has updated the kernel). The GUI frontend warns that. |
| 19:56.46 | outlaw84 | As all bad things... It started with a dist-upgrade to latest unstable... now the desktop does not seam to start :/ I just get left with terminals |
| 19:57.08 | Mousey | :( |
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| 19:57.21 | outlaw84 | If I run /ect/init.d/kde start I get [ ok ] Starting kdm (via systemctl): kdm.service. But no desktop |
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| 19:57.57 | outlaw84 | what should I do instead? :S and why is it now being done automatically :( |
| 19:58.08 | mtn | outlaw84: sid support is in #debian-next on the oftc.net server |
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| 20:05.00 | m0rd3cai | Im installing Deb 7 and at grub-install /dev/sda1 grub fails everytime. Lilo will install in the initial installation but upon reboot, pc boots to <initramfs> prompt. The 2 solutions i found on google did not work. |
| 20:05.02 | m0rd3cai | any ideas? |
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| 20:06.24 | mtn | m0rd3cai: why aren't you installing grub to /dev/sda? |
| 20:07.14 | m0rd3cai | mtn: im trying to |
| 20:07.30 | mtn | m0rd3cai: you said it was to /dev/sda1, not sda |
| 20:07.43 | zykotick9 | m0rd3cai: TBO, when I've tried on a couple of times, trying to install to a partation vs. MBR never worked :( best of luck. |
| 20:07.45 | m0rd3cai | my bad it is sda |
| 20:07.58 | m0rd3cai | 'executing grub-install /dev/sda' failed |
| 20:08.07 | m0rd3cai | wont tell me why tho |
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| 20:08.50 | DammitJim | man, I miss /dev/hda |
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| 20:10.33 | m0rd3cai | zykotick9: I guess im confused. I want it installed on MBR. Im using the full disk for debian. I've never had this issue before installing debian. im using single partition for everything + a swap partition. |
| 20:10.53 | m0rd3cai | I guess i dont understand why grub is giving me these issues |
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| 20:12.53 | zykotick9 | m0rd3cai: two questions 1) is this on a UEFI system and 2) if not, does your BIOS have some "anti-virus" feature? |
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| 20:14.52 | m0rd3cai | zykotick9: its a standard hp minitower. P4 Dual core HT. like 6 year old pc |
| 20:15.09 | m0rd3cai | Im pretty sure its not uefi |
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| 20:15.32 | m0rd3cai | and no i dont think theres any feature like that |
| 20:15.45 | m0rd3cai | I saw nothing in the bios |
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| 20:16.10 | zykotick9 | m0rd3cai: no at 6 years old, it's NOT uefi for sure. If the bios does have some "anti-virus thing" you might want to disable that - it locks the MBR. Other then that, I got nothin' - good luck. |
| 20:16.24 | m0rd3cai | yee haw. what do you think about a failing a drive? |
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| 20:16.37 | m0rd3cai | thats the only other thing i can think of possibly... |
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| 20:45.16 | nf7 | What is a good, simple command line torrent application where I can: 1. Download torrents, 2. Seed them with a monthly upload cap. |
| 20:46.59 | zykotick9 | nf7: see if rtorrent has the features you want. |
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| 20:47.52 | nf7 | zykotick9: That's the one I'm looking at right now. |
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| 20:50.02 | DammitJim | can one configure syslogd to send stuff to an IP and also write stuff to a file? |
| 20:50.17 | DammitJim | does one do this in 2 different lines or separate the locations by a comma? |
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| 20:53.04 | RoyK | DammitJim: *.* @1.2.3.4 in rsyslog.conf |
| 20:53.43 | RoyK | DammitJim: just add that line (with the right address or hostname) and it'll keep on logging locally, but send everything to 1.2.3.4 |
| 20:53.49 | RoyK | (or whatever address) |
| 20:54.03 | DammitJim | RoyK, can I do: *.* @1.2.3.4, /var/log/maillog ? |
| 20:54.03 | RoyK | works well on IPv6 too |
| 20:54.10 | RoyK | no |
| 20:54.20 | RoyK | just keep the rsyslog.conf as it is - just add that line |
| 20:54.27 | RoyK | *.* @my.logserver.blah.com |
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| 20:56.22 | DammitJim | oh, add another line |
| 20:56.24 | DammitJim | awesome! |
| 20:56.33 | DammitJim | that stuff just goes over UDP to another server, right? |
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| 21:00.06 | RoyK | DammitJim: udp or tcp |
| 21:00.17 | RoyK | DammitJim: by configuration |
| 21:00.52 | RoyK | DammitJim: not sure which is default |
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| 21:02.24 | RoyK | DammitJim: @host is UPD, @@host is TCP |
| 21:02.34 | DammitJim | I just need to open stuff up on my firewall (server is on the dmz) |
| 21:02.52 | DammitJim | oh cool! never knew that |
| 21:02.52 | RoyK | http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_conf_examples.html |
| 21:03.03 | RoyK | neither did I until you asked ;) |
| 21:03.13 | DammitJim | hahaha |
| 21:03.24 | DammitJim | dammit... this server actually doesn't have rsyslog |
| 21:03.26 | DammitJim | it has syslog |
| 21:03.27 | RoyK | but it was a quick google away ;) |
| 21:03.33 | RoyK | what sort of server? |
| 21:03.47 | gregor2 | hi |
| 21:03.54 | gregor2 | i have a problem! |
| 21:03.59 | RoyK | !ask |
| 21:04.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:04.01 | DammitJim | nevermind... it isn't a Debian server (which is what I wish all of our servers were)... it's Red Hat 5 |
| 21:04.01 | DammitJim | yuck |
| 21:04.09 | RoyK | DammitJim: lol |
| 21:04.12 | gregor2 | if i press ctrl+alt+f4 |
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| 21:04.16 | RoyK | DammitJim: rhel sucks rather badly |
| 21:04.16 | DammitJim | maybe the same stuff works |
| 21:04.21 | gregor2 | i get to a terminal |
| 21:04.27 | DammitJim | RoyK, +1 |
| 21:04.29 | RoyK | gregor2: yes, that§s normal |
| 21:04.34 | gregor2 | but the Text is really big |
| 21:04.35 | DammitJim | more than +1 |
| 21:04.36 | RoyK | that's normal, even |
| 21:04.46 | RoyK | gregor2: that's also normal |
| 21:04.59 | gregor2 | and i installed debian on another machine and saw that the text is smaller there! |
| 21:05.44 | RoyK | gregor2: debian uses a framebuffer interface for the terminal - if it can understand the graphics card, text is small |
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| 21:06.27 | gregor2 | cant i change that? |
| 21:06.40 | gregor2 | because it is actually the same machine! |
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| 21:06.54 | RoyK | gregor2: is it really that big a problem? |
| 21:07.01 | gregor2 | yes |
| 21:07.14 | nf7 | How can I download a .torrent file from the command line? For example, this file: http://gotbsd.net/torrents/FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso.torrent |
| 21:07.24 | nkuttler | nf7: wget/curl |
| 21:07.44 | nf7 | nkuttler: Do I need a special option with wget? |
| 21:07.50 | nkuttler | nf7: just try it |
| 21:08.03 | nf7 | nkuttler: Both of them return errors, forbidden |
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| 21:08.14 | nf7 | 403 forbidden |
| 21:08.23 | nkuttler | nf7: seems like that site blocks the wget user agent |
| 21:08.32 | gregor2 | Roy: I thought it could be cause of any desktop environment! |
| 21:08.46 | nf7 | nkuttler: that's annoying |
| 21:08.54 | nkuttler | nf7: --user-agent="lol" works |
| 21:09.31 | RoyK | gregor2: erm - you have a desktop environment, right? or no GUI? |
| 21:09.42 | nf7 | nkuttler: Awesome, thanks a lot |
| 21:09.49 | gregor2 | yes i have a desktop environment |
| 21:09.53 | nkuttler | nf7: no problem. seems silly to block wget for torrent files.. |
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| 21:10.07 | nkuttler | nf7: btw, make sure you verify the checksum of that iso you get.. |
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| 21:10.19 | gregor2 | on the os, where the text is big, i installed all 4! |
| 21:10.31 | nf7 | nkuttler: Do you mean because it could be malicious? Or just improperly downloaded? |
| 21:10.45 | nkuttler | nf7: malicious. isn't there a torrent on freebsd.org? |
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| 21:11.18 | nkuttler | nf7: or ask the freebsd support channel i guess. they should know |
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| 21:12.13 | nf7 | nkuttler: I'll check. It's not for me. I'm setting up my Debian machine as a seedbox. I've got a ton of Linux/BSD torrents seeding on my OSX machine, but I thought it would be better to put it on a Linux server that's connected 24/7 |
| 21:12.26 | nkuttler | nf7: i see |
| 21:12.40 | nf7 | But yeah I would prefer not to seed modified torrents, thanks for making me think about that |
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| 21:13.14 | nginxconfig | does anyone have nginx 1.6.0 running on wheezy? |
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| 21:13.50 | nkuttler | ,v nginx |
| 21:13.53 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy-backports: 1.4.6-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.0-1; sid: 1.6.0-1 |
| 21:14.08 | nkuttler | nginxconfig: most likely |
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| 21:33.10 | ponyofdeath | anyone know why when i do nc -l ip port and then send some trafic nc -l stops after traffic is done? |
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| 21:37.37 | TJ- | ponyofdeath: that is what it does, when it gets the FIN from the client end. I *think* "-q -1" will keep it listening but I've not tried it. Check "man nc" |
| 21:38.13 | ponyofdeath | TJ-: thanks |
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| 21:42.16 | Deniska_80 | Всем привет! Подмогните, пожалуйста, с mdadm. Стоял Debian на 2 дисках, mdadm-ом было сделано зеркало. ОДин диск сдох, заменили на рабочий, теперь грузится до initramfs, и встает со словами "failed to assemble all arrays" |
| 21:43.53 | Deniska_80 | уже пару часов бьюсь, судя по всему поменялись UIDы дисков, и это почему-то мешает ему найти все массивы :( хотя если сделать mdamin --examine /dev/sda1 |
| 21:44.05 | Deniska_80 | например, он видит, что там часть зеркала |
| 21:44.25 | dimir | wow |
| 21:44.48 | dimir | Прямо вот так вот внаглую кириллицей? |
| 21:45.14 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: ru |
| 21:45.15 | dpkg | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 21:45.28 | Deniska_80 | sorry |
| 21:45.46 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: no problem |
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| 21:46.02 | MrFrood | at least I know my utf8 works now :-/ |
| 21:46.10 | dimir | MrFrood: :-D |
| 21:46.55 | Deniska_80 | well, hello again ^) can anybody help with mdadm? I have debian server,installed on 2 disks (mirrored with mdadm). One disk failed, so we replace it |
| 21:47.31 | Deniska_80 | now server won't boot, stoped on initramfs with error message "failed to assemble all arrays" |
| 21:47.48 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: OK. What does /proc/mdstat or mdadm --examine say? |
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| 21:47.54 | zamboli | hi |
| 21:48.28 | Deniska_80 | mdstat (in initramfs) says no arrays present - i.e. |
| 21:48.30 | zamboli | problem moving from broadcomm wifi chip to intel 6205 Taylor Peak chip in Thinkpad |
| 21:48.42 | zamboli | i am getting a Failed to run INIT ucode: -110 |
| 21:49.03 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: OK; that's fine... it didn't assemble any of them. What does mdadm --examine; say when you run it on the appropriate block devices? |
| 21:49.08 | zamboli | i have tried firmware-iwlwifi from stable wheezy, backports, and an older version from squeeze |
| 21:49.17 | zamboli | has anyone vanquished this? |
| 21:49.26 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro |
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| 21:49.57 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: it'll be very large, so you might want to show a picture, or use a paste site. |
| 21:50.09 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: --examine can see linux raid member |
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| 21:50.36 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: all of them |
| 21:50.40 | frostschutz | Deniska_80, that doesn't help anyone. full output please |
| 21:50.53 | Deniska_80 | sec |
| 21:51.07 | Deniska_80 | there is dumb ip kvm ;^( |
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| 21:51.55 | m0rd3cai | are there any major disadvantages to using Lilo instead of Grub? |
| 21:52.03 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: right, but it'll output what the superblock status is on each of the devices |
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| 21:52.38 | frostschutz | m0rd3cai, there is no disadvantage to any bootloader - as long as it boots |
| 21:53.07 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: most likely, there's some reason why it isn't assembling the raid device. Presumably, one of them has an event count which doesn't match the other device |
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| 21:53.18 | zamboli | sad |
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| 21:54.34 | zamboli | in similar news, is it possible to share internet from one laptops wifi through it's single ethernet interface? |
| 21:54.45 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: but perversely, hasn't been marked as failed |
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| 21:55.05 | Deniska_80 | dondelacaro:well, still trying to copy --examine output ^(.. by the way - for example /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2 which are /dev/md1 - /boot |
| 21:55.23 | Deniska_80 | dondelacaro: have the same event count |
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| 21:56.13 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: but the output of mdadm --examine will help me see precisely what has gone on |
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| 21:56.56 | Deniska_80 | just a second.. will try to boot live cd on it |
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| 21:59.52 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/Au8tY0np |
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| 21:59.57 | Deniska_80 | here is it |
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| 22:06.13 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: http://paste.debian.net/102314/ |
| 22:06.44 | Deniska_80 | is there something wrong? |
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| 22:08.12 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: btw, when i boot from live CD all md-s arrays assemble good |
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| 22:09.20 | dondelelcaro | Aristide: and this is the view from inside the rescue media? |
| 22:09.30 | Deniska_80 | yes |
| 22:09.31 | Aristide | ? |
| 22:09.39 | dondelelcaro | Aristide: sorry; mis-completion |
| 22:09.41 | Aristide | :') |
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| 22:09.47 | Aristide | No problems ^^ |
| 22:09.49 | Aristide | Hi everybody :) |
| 22:10.07 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: OK; it looks fine from the rescue media. What does it show inside the initrd? |
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| 22:10.28 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: what happens if you mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sd[ab]2; from the initrd? |
| 22:10.37 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro |
| 22:11.03 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaroL: just a second |
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| 22:14.21 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: could you, please, look on screenshot ^( ipKVM just don't allow copy-paste ^( |
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| 22:14.29 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : ftp://80.92.1.62/1/Trash/1.png |
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| 22:15.21 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: ok, that looks just fine |
| 22:15.32 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: some strange ioctl messages.. they don't realy like me |
| 22:15.52 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: yeah, I'm not sure what those are, but it's probably OK |
| 22:16.02 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro |
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| 22:16.21 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=656899: looks like; probably harmless. |
| 22:17.38 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: is that the only raid device that is on this machine? |
| 22:17.56 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: if it's got lvm or something else, you can probably also bring that up, and then exit out of the initrd to continue |
| 22:18.44 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: now, as to why it's not doing that automatically, you might need to update your mdadm.conf if you have some arrays listed there |
| 22:18.46 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: nope, there are md0 md1 md2, md0 for swap, md1 for boot and md2 for / |
| 22:18.59 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: and no lvm |
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| 22:19.02 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: ah, ok. Do the other ones get brought up correctly? |
| 22:19.11 | Deniska_80 | just a second |
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| 22:20.39 | codepython777 | how do i install nginx from wheezy-backports? |
| 22:21.06 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: md0 is ok, and /dev/sdb3 have no RAID superblock..it seems i don't add /dev/sdb3 to md2 |
| 22:21.14 | codepython777 | I'd like to install 1.6 |
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| 22:22.20 | sebastian1 | codepython777: aptitude install -t wheezy-backports nginx |
| 22:22.22 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: ok. Is /dev/sdb the new device? |
| 22:22.35 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: yes |
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| 22:22.41 | codepython777 | sebastian1: thanks |
| 22:22.44 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: do you have a complete backup of /dev/sda? |
| 22:23.00 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: yes |
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| 22:24.01 | parallel21 | !w |
| 22:24.19 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: cool; then you should be able to go mdadm --assemble --force /dev/md2 /dev/sda3; mdadm /dev/md2 --add /dev/sdb3; |
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| 22:24.31 | codepython777 | sebastian1: wheezy-backports is invalid |
| 22:24.41 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : in initramfs ? |
| 22:24.46 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: yep |
| 22:24.56 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: before you do that, check the output of mdadm --examine /dev/sda3; |
| 22:25.11 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: to make sure that it matches up with what you expect, and that /dev/sdb3 also doesn't contain anything |
| 22:25.56 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : i just boot up from live cd again, should i add /dev/sdb3 to md2 ? |
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| 22:26.47 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: sure, you can do that too |
| 22:26.59 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: but most likely the live cd also has failed to assemble /dev/md2 |
| 22:27.19 | sebastian1 | codepython777: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ you need to add backports to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:27.32 | anon999383482471 | Hello |
| 22:27.48 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : nope, it's recovery now |
| 22:28.03 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: looks fine |
| 22:28.57 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: can i try to boot now, before recovery complete? |
| 22:29.47 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: as i understand it's must me safely |
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| 22:30.44 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: yeah, you can boot now |
| 22:30.54 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: once it's added, it'll just keep recovering |
| 22:32.00 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : well..the same error: failed to assemble |
| 22:32.17 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: assemble it manually ? |
| 22:32.36 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: yes |
| 22:32.46 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: and then you can just exit from the initrd, and it should boot |
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| 22:32.59 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: if it doesn't, then something else is busted, and it should tell you what |
| 22:33.02 | doublehp | which debian provides cryptsetup 1.6+ ? |
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| 22:34.04 | dondelelcaro | ,versions cryptsetup |
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| 22:34.09 | judd | Package: cryptsetup on i386 -- squeeze: 2:1.1.3-4squeeze2; wheezy: 2:1.4.3-4; jessie: 2:1.6.4-4; sid: 2:1.6.4-4 |
| 22:34.14 | dondelelcaro | doublehp: see above |
| 22:34.33 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : wow.. it's worked ^) |
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| 22:34.41 | doublehp | thanks; so jessy |
| 22:35.25 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : and what should be done else? after boot? |
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| 22:36.44 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: it seems to me, that if i reboot now this error remains |
| 22:37.03 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: you may need to updated in the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, and rebuild the initrd |
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| 22:37.27 | dondelelcaro | s/updated in the/update the information in/ |
| 22:38.53 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: well.. my /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf don't contain any ARRAY lines.. just device /dev/sda /dev/sdb.. it's seems ok |
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| 22:41.53 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: it probably should just have DEVICE partitions |
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| 22:42.43 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: and you probably should just rebuild the initrd on general principle |
| 22:42.55 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: because it may have an mdadm which is out of date |
| 22:43.07 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : update-initramfs -u ? |
| 22:43.37 | dondelelcaro | Deniska_80: yeah, update-intiramfs -u -k all; |
| 22:43.39 | bnx394 | i don't know if this is supported here. but i'm trying to do apt-pinning to get a newer thunar and when i apt-get upgrade it's trying to upgrade half the system. in my /etc/apt/preferences i have wheezy priority 700 and testing set to 600. so why is it trying to upgrade other applications? |
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| 22:46.25 | sebastian1 | bnx394: /etc/apt/apt.conf - APT::Default-Release "wheezy"; |
| 22:46.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell ssb |
| 22:46.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell bnx394 -about ssb |
| 22:46.59 | sebastian1 | bnx394: and it isn't a good idea to mix stable and testing. |
| 22:47.02 | babilen | bnx394: You really don't want to mix releases. |
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| 22:47.27 | babilen | judd: checkbackport thunar |
| 22:47.30 | judd | Backporting package thunar in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libexo-1-dev (>= 0.10.0), libxfce4util-dev (>= 4.10.0), libxfce4ui-1-dev (>= 4.10.0), xfce4-panel-dev (>= 4.10.0). |
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| 22:47.46 | babilen | And that ^^^ is a nightmare. |
| 22:47.49 | bnx394 | i know i don't want to, trust me. but thunar in debian 7 is ancient |
| 22:48.00 | bnx394 | and no backport |
| 22:48.06 | babilen | Well, then don't run Debian 7 (or Debian at all) |
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| 22:48.24 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 22:48.26 | bnx394 | how about you do what you want and i do what i want? |
| 22:48.51 | ZenWalker | when I have systemd, slim load on tty2, but I want load on tty7 |
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| 22:49.14 | babilen | bnx394: Well, I am simply giving you the advice to not mix releases. It is a much saner idea to run jessie or sid than to try to maintain a mix-n-match of stable and either of them. |
| 22:49.38 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: yeap!!! thank's a lot for your time and knowledge!!!!! |
| 22:49.57 | babilen | bnx394: If running a development branch with constant package changes is not an option for you, you have to use a different distribution. There aren't really many options apart from that. |
| 22:50.22 | babilen | bnx394: I mean feel free to mix releases, but it will cause problems eventually. |
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| 22:52.06 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro : it's seems to me, that in old mdadm.conf there are lines with ARRAYs, specified by UUID. Then UUID changes.. and all fails |
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| 22:52.11 | bnx394 | babilen: doing this with thunar is not as big a deal as you are making it out to be. it is a package that rarely ever changes, and since it's a file manager the lack of security updates are not a big issue, and the ssb thing about compiling from source isn't neccessary. it's just 1 package. i doubt i will have any issues apt-pinning a file manager that can't be resolved in 10 minutes |
| 22:52.49 | bnx394 | babilen: but i agree with you that in general it's not a good idea and i wouldn't run debian testing just because of one package being out of date |
| 22:52.54 | Deniska_80 | dondelelcaro: thanks a lot again!good night |
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| 23:07.25 | LanDi | hey guys, can I download a package and build it from source using apt-get ??? for example, I want to install 'bluefish' |
| 23:08.38 | phogg | LanDi: try: apt-build install bluefish |
| 23:08.55 | phogg | LanDi: but why do you need to build from source? |
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| 23:09.58 | LanDi | LanDi: curiosity |
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| 23:10.13 | LanDi | phogg: curiosity |
| 23:10.17 | LanDi | hehehe :P |
| 23:10.39 | phogg | As long as you understand that you probably don't *need* to it's fine. It's always useful to learn more things. |
| 23:10.49 | phogg | You never know when just knowing that you can will come in handy. |
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| 23:11.04 | LanDi | sure |
| 23:11.27 | LanDi | It's just to see if there is any performance improvement |
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| 23:12.12 | phogg | LanDi: the less automatic answer is to do apt-get source bluefish ; tar xzf bluefish * ; cd bluefish* ; and then build as normal |
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| 23:13.07 | LanDi | phogg: what about sudo apt-get build-dep <package> ? |
| 23:13.36 | phogg | LanDi: that will help if you are missing some packages needed to build it |
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| 23:14.32 | LanDi | ok |
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| 23:18.32 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 23:18.43 | lenswipe | ive noticed that im no longer getting a forced disk check on startup |
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| 23:18.46 | lenswipe | why is this? |
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| 23:20.18 | dondelelcaro | lenswipe: fsck should always run, but it may not do anything |
| 23:20.53 | byte | http://www.coindesk.com/darkcoin-price-turmoil-network-issues-emergency-fork/ |
| 23:21.18 | socomm | Crypto currency is debian related now? |
| 23:21.54 | lenswipe | dondelelcaro, right but i remember waiting while linux forced a disk check |
| 23:22.11 | lenswipe | /dev/sda1 mounted x times without disk check, check forced |
| 23:22.12 | lenswipe | etc. etc. |
| 23:22.31 | byte | sorry socomm, it was a /amsg |
| 23:22.33 | byte | ;) |
| 23:22.55 | dondelelcaro | lenswipe: yes, that's just fsck doing that. Not every filesystem needs to be checked all of the time, and not all filesystems actually have fsck do anything |
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| 23:23.15 | dondelelcaro | lenswipe: so as long as you see fsck running at all, the init scripts are working properly |
| 23:23.52 | lenswipe | oka |
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| 23:39.12 | nezt | hey all, after using the shutdown command and turning my computer back on, it boots into tty and i cannot exit (cntrl-alt-f7) to return to gui |
| 23:39.20 | nezt | i'm a noobie :) |
| 23:39.23 | nezt | any help appreciated |
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| 23:40.19 | mtn | nezt: maybe you need to install a desktop manager, like gdm |
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| 23:41.59 | nezt | well i had debian wheezy running fine and then i used the shutdown command and now i can't return to the desktop. |
| 23:42.07 | nezt | I'll try that |
| 23:42.17 | mtn | nezt: running the shutdown command wouldn't have changed anything |
| 23:43.40 | shawnbon206 | nezt do you remember the changes you made? |
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| 23:44.32 | shawnbon206 | you might be able to review them in ~/.bash_history (of both root and user) |
| 23:44.43 | shawnbon206 | might jog your memory |
| 23:44.55 | shawnbon206 | :P |
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| 23:46.03 | shawnbon206 | also check /var/log/dmesg and Xorg and stuff like that |
| 23:46.26 | shawnbon206 | and /log/apt/history.log |
| 23:46.56 | cra1g321 | nezt what login manager do you have installed ? |
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| 23:52.00 | ross_ | Hi all, I'm trying to recover from accidentally mounting my /var logical volume in the wrong place. I'm not sure what happened, but now I cannot log in. I can boot into recovery mode, but cannot do much else. Any thoughts for recovering the system? |
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| 23:54.49 | mtn | ross_: what did you do to cause the problem? |
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| 23:57.07 | Cullz | just ran dist-upgrade, seems to have broken my sound |
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| 23:57.33 | cra1g321 | cool |
| 23:57.34 | Cullz | output through both headphones and speakers now, don't know how to get just headphones - made me unpopular in the library |
| 23:57.44 | cra1g321 | lol |
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| 23:58.39 | jmcnaught | Cullz: you could try alsamixer and see if there's a channel or switch that needs to be toggled. Did this happen on Wheezy? |
| 23:59.37 | cra1g321 | or check out pavucontrol if you're using pulseaudio |
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