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| 00:00.39 | Cullz | jmcnaught: It's Wheezy. Have never really played with sound on Debian before. |
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| 00:03.14 | phy1729 | nvm debian doesn't have a wheel |
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| 00:04.29 | bitblt | how would i go about troubleshooting why a target host isn't receiving a preseed (from cobbler). the preseed validates ok, the target boots with the right kopts, and i can wget the preseed from the build server onto the target |
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| 00:09.29 | Cullz | jmcnaught: Do you know what headphones would be called in alsamixer? |
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| 00:10.19 | jmcnaught | Cullz: for my sound card there's an "auto mute mode" channel that has to be enabled |
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| 00:20.10 | Cullz | deepblue, I think you have to mount it, if Irecall correctly there is a file of stuff that automounts, you may have to list it there |
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| 00:30.06 | doomikus | I've googled, simple q. Is there a site were we can search through the #debian logs? |
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| 00:31.46 | AlexLikeRock | hi dudes :) |
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| 00:33.26 | AlexLikeRock | i do upgrade (testing) 2 months ago, and my coneccion WIFI failied , just after updating |
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| 00:33.45 | AlexLikeRock | they are at my home , ( no internet yet ) |
| 00:34.11 | AlexLikeRock | where to start to RE-Configure ? |
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| 00:38.12 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse is a good place to start. How were you connecting to wifi before? Using Network-Manager in Gnome? |
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| 00:39.54 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: also this is the channel for Wheezy support, so you might get better help in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 00:43.36 | AlexLikeRock | i do everiting from this page https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 00:43.41 | AlexLikeRock | and not work |
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| 00:45.24 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, : |
| 00:45.27 | AlexLikeRock | * Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only). |
| 00:45.36 | AlexLikeRock | in freenode :-S |
| 00:45.53 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: it's not on freenode, it's on irc.oftc.net which is a different network |
| 00:45.57 | AlexLikeRock | yeah |
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| 01:36.37 | OprahX | Hi! Are there any reasons why this wouldn't work on Debian? http://ebots.in/2014/05/how-to-integrate-kali-linux-tools-on-ubuntu/ |
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| 01:40.11 | jmcnaught | OprahX: those repos are for Ubuntu, which is based on Debian but with substantial changes. Using a third party repository for a different distro is a pretty good way to mess up your system. Even if it works at first, you will probably have problems during upgrades |
| 01:40.32 | OprahX | jmcnaught: Aww. :( |
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| 01:42.57 | jmcnaught | OprahX: I've used Kali in a VM before. I think it can also be used as a Live CD |
| 01:43.19 | OprahX | jmcnaught: I know, I know. |
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| 01:48.12 | mintgreen | how to run windows 8 in terminal virtual machine? |
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| 01:51.15 | AlexLikeRock | whit virtual box |
| 01:51.23 | jmcnaught | mintgreen: not sure what you mean. are you trying to run win8 inside a VM on a Linux host? |
| 01:51.26 | lazarus477 | Where is the create_tables.sql script located at for setting up PhpMyAdmin? |
| 01:51.39 | lazarus477 | I installed using aptitude. |
| 01:51.43 | AlexLikeRock | mintgreen, /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox --comment "Debian-Alex" --startvm "8cb0fbcf-7287-4e66-8263-8645885783cc2" |
| 01:52.16 | AlexLikeRock | rigth click in virtalbox over my machine |
| 01:52.21 | jmcnaught | lazarus477: /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/examples/create_tables.sql.gz |
| 01:52.40 | lazarus477 | jmcnaught: So simple, yet so hard to figure out. Thank you! |
| 01:52.46 | AlexLikeRock | "create a shortcurt in desktop " |
| 01:52.58 | jmcnaught | lazarus477: i used apt-file to find it |
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| 01:53.28 | lazarus477 | jmcnaught: clever. I was using find but did not have .gz at the end of the name to search for... |
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| 01:55.44 | lazarus477 | jmcnaught: I would imagine that I need to decompress the script before handing it to mysql? |
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| 01:56.54 | jmcnaught | lazarus477: yes, and it might also be a good idea to check if there's anything debian specific you should be aware of in /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin (there's probably a README.Debian in there) |
| 01:57.50 | lazarus477 | jmcnaught: Shall check, thanks. |
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| 01:59.04 | OprahX | jmcnaught: Are you on a Debian PC now? |
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| 01:59.25 | jmcnaught | OprahX: yes |
| 02:00.24 | OprahX | jmcnaught: Can you please tell me if these packages are available? "sudo apt-get install openvpn network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn-gnome" |
| 02:00.37 | OprahX | Oops. I included the install stuff. :P |
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| 02:01.58 | yakamo | can anyone tell me if they have come across a repeating issues with fuse in debian wheezy |
| 02:01.59 | jmcnaught | OprahX: i have all those installed... https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages is a pretty decent resource for stuff like that too |
| 02:02.25 | OprahX | jmcnaught: Thanks! So are you connecting to a VPN provider using it? :) |
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| 02:03.27 | jmcnaught | OprahX: yup.. not right now but it works when i use it |
| 02:03.38 | yakamo | anyone come across this error "ERROR: could not insert 'fuse': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter" |
| 02:03.38 | OprahX | jmcnaught: That is AWESOME! |
| 02:03.43 | OprahX | It never worked for me. :( |
| 02:04.33 | jmcnaught | OprahX: are you getting an error message? |
| 02:04.53 | OprahX | jmcnaught: No, it just times out, like 9/10 times. NO IDEA why. |
| 02:05.22 | OprahX | I'm extremely lucky when it works like every third day or so. :S |
| 02:06.25 | jmcnaught | OprahX: maybe there's a message in /var/log/syslog? My VPN provider is Private Internet Access, which I chose partly because the sponsor freenode. I've only had a few hiccups with them so far |
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| 02:07.13 | OprahX | jmcnaught: I'm using a Swedish provider that I've had on Windows for YEARS. |
| 02:07.22 | OprahX | Like 98% uptime. |
| 02:07.30 | OprahX | So it's not their fault. I wish it was. :( |
| 02:08.04 | OprahX | My PC is crying blood when it's forced to run Windows. |
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| 02:10.16 | jmcnaught | OprahX: well i would look to see if there are any clues in /var/log. When I connect to the VPN NetworkManager logs in /var/log/syslog |
| 02:10.51 | OprahX | jmcnaught: I will do that next time Debian is installed. |
| 02:10.52 | OprahX | Thanks. :) |
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| 02:14.26 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Is there a way to temporarily specify a second /etc/fstab? |
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| 02:16.20 | abrotman | from what command? |
| 02:16.24 | abrotman | for what reason? |
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| 02:20.22 | MouseTheLuckyDog | abrotman, what I would like to do is have a table for a USB drive. Then when I attach the drive tell the system to use this file as extra entrioes to /etc/fstab. |
| 02:20.41 | abrotman | instead of just listing it normally? |
| 02:20.58 | MouseTheLuckyDog | What do you mean "listing it normally". |
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| 02:22.49 | ectospasm | I'm using Wheezy with Chrome and I can't seem to drag tabs completely anymore, which means I can't rearrange them. I can drag them off to make a new window, but when I try to place them somewhere else in the existing window it looks like X or something isn't allowing me to do that. |
| 02:22.56 | DoMPatoneS | clear |
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| 02:23.23 | eristisk | Is it possible to use non-libre Nvidia drivers to render videos with MLT/Kdenlive faster? |
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| 02:26.48 | Skaag | weird stuff: I have a USB printer, it works, I can print, but I can't find the device for it. It used to be in /dev/usb/lp0 but now I can't even find a /dev/usb/ folder |
| 02:26.59 | Skaag | is it possible it creates this while printing, and then removes it? |
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| 02:28.28 | DoMPatoneS | try lsusb |
| 02:28.31 | jmcnaught | MouseTheLuckyDog: i assume that "listing it normally" means putting the entry for your USB drive in /etc/fstab (and only having one of them) |
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| 02:29.08 | Skaag | I see it in lsusb |
| 02:29.30 | jmcnaught | ectospasm: sounds more like a problem with Chrome than with X to me, but I don't use Chrome myself |
| 02:29.43 | Skaag | but it does not mention a device name under /dev/ |
| 02:29.52 | ectospasm | this is actually chromium, not chrome |
| 02:30.00 | ectospasm | And yeah, I think it's with chromium |
| 02:30.03 | ectospasm | jmcnaught: ^ |
| 02:30.25 | shawnbon206 | debating installing virt-manager on my acer c720. am i crazy? |
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| 02:30.59 | DoMPatoneS | dmesg should have the dev location |
| 02:31.08 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Let's see if I can explain better. I have a hard drive from a computer which has a messed up OS on it. I would like to take it's /etc/fstab copy it to say /tmp/fstab have a script modify the mount points from /foo to /local_mnt_pt/foo then specify that for a while /tmp/fstab should be treated as a second fstab so I can mount the fs heirarchy and do a chroot. |
| 02:31.29 | DoMPatoneS | if you dont see it. unplug and plug it back in it will create another entry |
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| 02:31.42 | Skaag | but how can cups print without the device? |
| 02:31.51 | Skaag | I tried again to print, it prints just fine |
| 02:31.58 | jmcnaught | shawnbon206: doesn't sound that crazy. do you know if your CPU supports virtualization? |
| 02:31.58 | DoMPatoneS | the device is there |
| 02:32.06 | Skaag | it's there but I just can't see it? |
| 02:32.42 | DoMPatoneS | yeah u are not looking in the right places. |
| 02:33.05 | Skaag | find /dev/ -name 'lp*' |
| 02:33.06 | Skaag | nothing |
| 02:33.24 | Skaag | and dmesg shows this: [ 1553.484818] usblp0: removed |
| 02:33.28 | Skaag | at some point, it was removed |
| 02:33.38 | Skaag | and yet, it works :) |
| 02:34.27 | ectospasm | is it a wireless printer? |
| 02:34.29 | DoMPatoneS | find /dev/ -name usb* |
| 02:34.48 | shawnbon206 | jmcnaught VT-x yes VT-d no |
| 02:34.58 | DoMPatoneS | usblp0 should be what u have |
| 02:35.08 | shawnbon206 | jmcnaught http://ark.intel.com/m/products/75608/Intel-Celeron-Processor-2955U-2M-Cache-1_40-GHz#@product/specifications |
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| 02:38.05 | jmcnaught | shawnbon206: should be fine. it is possible that VT-x is disabled in the bios though. I use libvirt/KVM and virt-manager and love them |
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| 02:39.22 | jmcnaught | shawnbon206: try running "egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo" and if there is output then you should be fine |
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| 02:42.25 | shawnbon206 | jmcnaught that came up empty. :/ |
| 02:43.16 | shawnbon206 | jmcnaught question, where do you put .iso's usually? somewhere within the default storage pool? |
| 02:43.29 | jmcnaught | shawnbon206: on some computers it can be enabled in the BIOS. some computers it cannot even when the CPU supports it. Even without that support you can still use Qemu with libvirt |
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| 02:44.31 | jmcnaught | shawnbon206: yeah i usually put them in the default storage pool in /var/lib/libvirt/images. I also have an LVM volume group that I use a storage pool for VMs |
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| 02:45.17 | jmcnaught | shawnbon206: if you cannot get VT-x working on your computer and you just want to run linux inside linux you might checkout LXC |
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| 02:47.44 | ragav | Best way to configure audio under debian linux...I ama nooband trying to setup my auido..I am able to run my audio devices...but i am not able to detect any jack detection through debian..it works wid windows..is there some configurations i need to look through??please guide me |
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| 02:52.51 | shawnbon206 | jmcnaught oh lol /proc/cpuinfo shows vmx |
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| 02:53.37 | shawnbon206 | i had grepped for "vxm" |
| 02:53.48 | shawnbon206 | horay |
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| 03:08.02 | utopian | hi |
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| 03:20.47 | jpinx | I'm moving my OS from /dev/sda5 to /dev/sda1 and want to check that it's running ok before I re-update&configure grub. Can I get chroot to work the Xsession ? |
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| 03:21.55 | jpinx | running chroot tells me everything seems ok so far |
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| 03:29.42 | dgeary2 | where is documentation on apt architecture, ie how it works? |
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| 03:37.10 | asarch | When you install Debian using an eth0 connection, where does the installer store this info? |
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| 03:40.09 | DoMPatoneS | asarch I am not sure what you mean. /etc/network/interfaces is where it normally stores the info. I am not sure if it uses that during install since you could use ifconfig to set up the ips without using a file |
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| 03:44.36 | fishcooker | how to disable directory listing of my /var/www? |
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| 03:46.56 | DoMPatoneS | you probably have that as your root. create a <Directory /var/www> Options -Indexes </Directory> |
| 03:47.10 | DoMPatoneS | in your default vhost |
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| 03:49.14 | RoyK | DoMPatoneS: or add a dummy index.html saying something like this http://francesco.karlsbakk.net/ |
| 03:49.45 | justanotheruser | Why doesn't my terminal beep on echo -e "\a"? |
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| 03:53.33 | DoMPatoneS | Royk: That works also. I liked the aproach |
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| 03:55.20 | jmcnaught | fishcooker: i usually also disable autoindex with "a2dismod autoindex" |
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| 03:58.32 | MACscr | su debian-spamd -c 'spamassassin -D --lint' 2> /tmp/lint |
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| 04:02.51 | asarch | Thank you DoMPatoneS |
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| 04:02.55 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
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| 05:18.28 | Cullz | I gave up on fixing sound after the Debian update - library wasn't best place to do it :) |
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| 05:18.59 | Cullz | It seems the issue resolved itself after restarting. Thanks to those who offered advice. |
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| 05:24.12 | temhaa | hi |
| 05:24.19 | temhaa | I get error logrotate: |
| 05:24.20 | temhaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.51 | temhaa | sorry cron.daily |
| 05:25.01 | temhaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.02 | temhaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.02 | temhaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.02 | temhaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.02 | temhaa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:25.25 | temhaa | how can I solve |
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| 05:38.31 | jmcnaught | temhaa: have you changed or replaced the Tripwire site or local keys after the database was generated? |
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| 05:40.53 | Damiox | I'm planning to install Debian Wheezy to my samsung np530. My laptop brings up ExpressCache. As ExpressCache is a Windows-based SSD Caching (wikipedia) I'm not sure if it will work in debian. Any info? |
| 05:42.11 | wols | Damiox: if you can access your expresscache thing as a normal disk, it works too in debian, but not with the wheezy kernel |
| 05:42.18 | wols | a backport kernel however has bcache for example |
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| 05:43.44 | wols | you can not use it with windows in conjunction however. either windows or linux can use the ssd cache, not both. and if the SSD is big enough,e.g. 8GB or bigger, you can install your full debian onto it and skip the cache thing altogether |
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| 05:46.29 | temhaa | jmcnaught, I didnt changed |
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| 05:47.58 | Damiox | understood |
| 05:48.34 | jmcnaught | temhaa: have you tried running a tripwire check manually? |
| 05:48.50 | Damiox | I think it's a 24GB SSD. So maybe I can install there the OS and let my hard disk to /home /usr /var ? |
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| 05:49.48 | temhaa | jmcnaught, how can I try |
| 05:49.58 | temhaa | jmcnaught, I'm new this issues |
| 05:50.33 | jmcnaught | temhaa: i suggest you read the Tripwire documentation |
| 05:50.43 | temhaa | jmcnaught, ok |
| 05:51.26 | wols | Damiox: boot a livecd and check if it has a /dev/sdb or whatever. maybe put /boot on the hdd too if you can't boot from the cache SSD |
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| 05:52.33 | Damiox | wols: that's a good idea. I will try that out. Thanks for the tip. |
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| 06:07.48 | thoonai | hey |
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| 06:08.57 | thoonai | how do I get the openjdk java 1.7 library on my system? I want to stay with openjdk and do not want to take the oracle thing |
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| 06:12.20 | mjt | thoonai: apt-cache search openjdk ? |
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| 06:12.49 | wols | !install java |
| 06:12.50 | dpkg | For the Java web browser plugin, install the icedtea-plugin package (install icedtea6-plugin for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"). For other Java programs, install the default-jre package to get the default or manually select one of openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre yourself. The old <sun-java6> packages are best avoided as Oracle now forbids Debian providing any security updates to them. See also <java alternatives>. |
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| 06:14.25 | obsed | hmm I am guessing debian jessie will have good support for any hardware purchased this year ? |
| 06:14.33 | obsed | ie the freeze wont be until 2015 ? |
| 06:14.49 | obsed | (hardware purchased first 3 quarters of 2014) |
| 06:15.15 | mjt | heh. except of selected parts for which, even if older, support doesn't exist :) |
| 06:15.23 | mjt | like my broadcom wireless card |
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| 06:16.01 | obsed | mjt: atheros ftw ;) |
| 06:16.05 | thoonai | mjt: sure, works fine for java 1. |
| 06:16.07 | thoonai | 1.6 |
| 06:16.14 | mjt | obsed: you can almost always go with backports kernel |
| 06:16.21 | mjt | thoonai: it lists both 6 and 7 |
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| 06:16.32 | mjt | thoonai: unless you're on squeeze |
| 06:16.35 | obsed | mjt: swap out with a fsf certified respects your freedom atheros card from thinkpenguin ;) |
| 06:17.10 | obsed | mjt: ah yes, if the hardware support is in the kernel. but say a steam gaming jessie box with nvidia gpu, nvidia driver then |
| 06:17.13 | mjt | obsed: unfortunately, when I purchased this laptop (lenovo thinkpad), I didn't know about bios lockdown -- I can't use alternative wifi card with it, I already purchased 2 (!!) alternative cards to try |
| 06:17.26 | obsed | i think now after some time the latest nvidia driver is in backports, it just took a while |
| 06:17.36 | obsed | mjt: damn bios lockdown!! |
| 06:17.47 | thoonai | owns a T60 with Debian 7 o/ |
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| 06:18.34 | thoonai | mjt: dpkg --status openjdk-7-jdk |
| 06:18.34 | thoonai | Package: openjdk-7-jdk |
| 06:18.34 | thoonai | Status: install ok installed |
| 06:19.13 | thoonai | mjt: and java -version responds: ~$ java -version |
| 06:19.13 | thoonai | java version "1.6.0_31" |
| 06:19.20 | mjt | thoonai: don't you also have -6-jdk installed too, with "java" alternative pointing to it? :) |
| 06:19.45 | thoonai | mjt: probably you're right and I'm stupid ;) |
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| 06:20.13 | thoonai | mjt: nope: dpkg --status openjdk-6-jdk |
| 06:20.14 | thoonai | dpkg-query: package 'openjdk-6-jdk' is not installed and no information is available |
| 06:20.24 | mjt | i'd not be so quick in conclusions about stupidity :) |
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| 06:21.06 | mjt | /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java |
| 06:21.10 | mjt | on my system |
| 06:21.27 | mjt | it is openjdk-6-jre-headless |
| 06:21.34 | BlaDe^ | any ideas how I can fix: php5-memcache : Depends: phpapi-20121212 but it is not installable ? |
| 06:21.51 | BlaDe^ | I'm using unstable on my dev instance and this just started |
| 06:21.52 | thoonai | mjt: ok, same goes for me |
| 06:22.09 | mjt | thoonai: those alternatives - like in this case - are not at all obvious to find and not at all obvious to change correctly |
| 06:22.27 | mjt | thoonai: that's about being stupid - a smartest person will have the same difficulties with them at first |
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| 06:22.42 | mjt | !java alternatives |
| 06:22.42 | dpkg | Rather than using update-alternatives (or galternatives) to set each individual alternative for java (and there are lots of them!), use update-java-alternatives. To see a list of the valid java alternatives, use "update-java-alternatives --list". To select the amd64 openjdk-7 java runtime environment, "update-java-alternatives --set java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64". |
| 06:22.53 | mjt | aha ! |
| 06:22.59 | mjt | :) |
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| 06:23.40 | mjt | thoonai: so, you see, not we alone had this issue :) |
| 06:23.52 | thoonai | mjt: thx |
| 06:24.16 | mjt | switches to java7 too -- which he wanted to do for a long time but didn't know how :) |
| 06:25.11 | thoonai | mjt: I'm surprised everyday how much effort the ubuntu devs put into making ubuntu comfortable |
| 06:25.48 | mjt | ..and update-java-alternatives is stupid, it tries to update alternatives which does not exist and ignores errors from update-alternatives who says just that... ;) |
| 06:25.52 | jmcnaught | BlaDe^: I'm not sure if there's an easy fix for that. It seems like the packages you need are still being worked on in unstable. It works fine in Wheezy for what it's worth |
| 06:27.16 | thoonai | mjt: Do I have to install update-java-alternatives manually? |
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| 06:29.33 | BlaDe^ | jmcnaught: ok np, I got it working via pecl I was just curious as i'd never seen it before |
| 06:29.57 | thoonai | mjt: or should I just adjust it manually? apt-cache doesnt find update-java-alternatives and its unknown to my system |
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| 06:30.27 | BlaDe^ | jmcnaught: would there be a workaround? |
| 06:30.36 | BlaDe^ | (for future reference) |
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| 06:31.31 | thoonai | mjt: ok I found it ^^ |
| 06:31.37 | jmcnaught | BlaDe^: this kind of thing happens less with testing, and should never happen with stable |
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| 06:38.44 | mjt | thoonai: it is in java-common which is always installed, but just like all other update-foo, it is in root path (/usr/sbin) |
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| 06:43.46 | thoonai | mjt: thank you :) it worked :) |
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| 07:09.53 | _ikke_ | 've installed libpam-radius, and setup nginx to use pam to authenticate, but now for every http request, pam is doing a radius request. Anyone knows a way to keep thesse credentials cached for some amount of time so it doesn't have to contact the radius server? |
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| 07:10.49 | thoonai | mjt: ok, the alternatives are correctly set, but eclipse tells me that jre 1.7 is still unbound o.O |
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| 07:33.27 | mjt | thoonai: maybe it's best to just remove jre6 entirely? :) |
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| 07:35.30 | mjt | hm. So, with grub2, how do I specify default kernel to boot? I've installed a new test (3.14) kernel, but want the system to boot 3.2 kernel normally, unless I tell it to use 3.14 explicitly. |
| 07:36.20 | wols | mjt: /etc/default/grub |
| 07:36.25 | mjt | i used to use syslinux and manual config, there, I used "default <menuitem>". But with grub and grub setup in debian, the menu is dynamic |
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| 07:39.03 | joelmo | is it possible to have user udev rules somewhere in my home folder? |
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| 07:39.50 | wols | joelmo: maybe via a symlink. but why would you want to do this? |
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| 07:40.42 | mjt | wols: do I understand it right, GRUB_DEFAULT sets the menu item NUMBER whcih should be the default? |
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| 07:40.55 | joelmo | wols: I have just tried to have everything i need in my home folder so i can move files to another system with minimal modification |
| 07:41.18 | wols | joelmo: not gonna happen. don't do it |
| 07:41.22 | wols | mjt: yes |
| 07:41.30 | mjt | that's a disaster :) |
| 07:41.46 | wols | mjt: you will have to check /boot/grub/grub.cfg. or you do I like I do: use saved |
| 07:42.35 | mjt | it is exact reason why i never used grub before and switched from lilo to syslinux: unability to select default/next boot entry in a reliable way |
| 07:42.49 | mjt | *sigh* ;) |
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| 07:42.59 | wols | mjt: debian does it very reliably... |
| 07:43.37 | mjt | i install a new kernel and want to boot it only on the next boot, reverting back to old behavour |
| 07:43.41 | mjt | how to achieve this? |
| 07:44.32 | mjt | with syslinux i add a new menu item, specify its _name_ in syslinux --once=, and it does exactly that - it tries to boot that _name_ once and reverts to default |
| 07:44.56 | wols | mjt: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#fallback |
| 07:45.20 | mjt | yeah. the only thing left is to count the menu items properly |
| 07:45.31 | mjt | (it is not about fallback btw) |
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| 07:46.11 | mjt | damn. So, syslinux doesn't quite work in efi mode, and grub has no reliable way to specify which kernel to boot. So there's no working bootloader for efi anymore :) |
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| 07:46.35 | wols | well, millions od debian users would disagree with you |
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| 07:46.51 | mjt | it all works when you have access to the console |
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| 07:47.03 | mjt | in my case, the key requiriment was that it works remotely |
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| 07:47.58 | mjt | hence i want to _try_ to boot the new kernel - up to the whole OS, networking and all, -- I want to keep exact old config, try the new kernel just ONCE, and if it boots fine and lets me to log in, I go to boot config and change the default to the new kernel. |
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| 07:48.12 | mjt | with this "boot number" it isn't possible to do anymore |
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| 07:48.26 | mjt | because counting those numbers is too error prone |
| 07:48.41 | RoyK | beamed-up-zombie-day! |
| 07:48.57 | nurupo | Debian Testing KDE here. I can't change system time or make it show the correct time |
| 07:49.00 | mjt | and if you made a mistake there, it will be very difficult to fix |
| 07:49.38 | wols | !tell nurupo about errors |
| 07:49.47 | nurupo | it was 03:00 before I decided to time travel a bit, but then I'm not able to set it back to 03:xx |
| 07:49.56 | nurupo | it resets to 07:xx |
| 07:50.04 | nurupo | and claims that my timezone == UTC http://i.imgur.com/gJ5LeuS.png |
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| 07:51.00 | wols | !utc |
| 07:51.01 | dpkg | Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is the standard by which the world regulates clocks and time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time). For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems, set "UTC" or "LOCAL" in /etc/adjtime (man 8 hwclock). For Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, set the UTC option in /etc/default/rcS appropriately (man rcs). For all systems, run «service hwclock.sh restart» to apply changes. See also <windows utc>. |
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| 07:54.40 | RoyK | where's jesus? |
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| 07:56.15 | jelly-home | nurupo: 07:56 UTC _is_ correct time |
| 07:56.55 | jelly-home | nurupo: you just need to set the desired timezone |
| 07:57.24 | jelly-home | !tz |
| 07:57.25 | dpkg | A time zone is the standard time (aka local time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata". Alternatively: "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime". Note that tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. Postfix users: execute "invoke-rc.d postfix restart" to update localtime in the chroot. |
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| 07:59.47 | RoyK | !eust |
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| 08:01.11 | kRush | A new "systemd-timesyncd" daemon has been added for |
| 08:01.11 | kRush | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.11 | kRush | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.13 | kRush | hahaha |
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| 08:01.42 | mjt | heh. so much for "haha" |
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| 08:01.59 | kRush | worth it |
| 08:02.02 | RoyK | sntp? why when yo have ntp? |
| 08:03.07 | mjt | there's nothing wrong with sntp |
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| 08:03.28 | RoyK | well, there's nothing wrong with ntp either, it's just better |
| 08:04.03 | RoyK | sntp == simplified ntp |
| 08:04.13 | RoyK | no reason to use that if you can run ntp |
| 08:04.28 | kRush | nothing wrong with ntp? oh boy |
| 08:04.31 | RoyK | ntp doesn't really need much resources |
| 08:05.14 | RoyK | kRush: what's wrong with ntp? |
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| 08:07.58 | mjt | systemd needed time syncronization because many currently available [s]ntp clients aren't reliable in this context in one way or another - most important is there's no indication when the time has been set during boot, and whenever that happens at all or not |
| 08:08.18 | mjt | so they implemented sntp, because implementing ntp is more complex than sntp |
| 08:08.30 | mjt | and for most machines, sntp is enough |
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| 08:08.50 | thoonai | mjt: thanks, everything works now :) |
| 08:08.59 | mjt | if you want to reimplement systemd time component as ntp, please do so |
| 08:09.24 | wols | there is nothing wrong with sntp or ntp. what's wrong is systemd having a ntp client |
| 08:09.38 | mjt | this actually raises another, more interesting than "whats wrong with sntp or ntp", question: will systemd implement everything else too? |
| 08:09.51 | mjt | yeah :) |
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| 08:10.53 | wols | systemd is incomplete until it has a mailserver. and a mailreader |
| 08:11.19 | wols | and a javascript interpreter so I can linux inside a javascript vm of course |
| 08:11.52 | mjt | . o O { node.js } |
| 08:11.53 | mjt | oh well |
| 08:11.53 | wols | *I can run |
| 08:12.16 | mjt | and that's actually one of the main systemd concerns |
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| 08:20.55 | flukiluke | systemd will make a great operating system, lacking only a decent program to manage daemons. |
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| 08:29.40 | neo1691 | I have just purchased a brand new usb 3.0 hdd. Is there any way I can check the usb 3.0 speed from the command line. I am running latest debian 7 wheezy 64 bit OS |
| 08:30.54 | Zharf | http://askubuntu.com/questions/87035/how-to-check-hard-disk-performance |
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| 08:31.44 | neo1691 | I did some googling, but most of them offer the disk utility program specified by ubuntu. Anyways thanks Zhr |
| 08:31.49 | neo1691 | Zharf: ^^ |
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| 08:32.54 | Zharf | neo1691, my link has command line methods also |
| 08:33.06 | neo1691 | Yes just saw that. Thanks |
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| 08:48.39 | indieross | what would be the grub2 equivalent of grub-install --root-directory="/some/drive" "/dev/sdX" |
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| 09:11.43 | aborrero | hi there |
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| 09:16.49 | shingouz | boudiccas: on my systems man mv does not know "g" at all. if you need mroe help, please define the "not work" |
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| 09:20.19 | markotitel | anyone writes technical documentation of their infrastructure? |
| 09:20.30 | markotitel | Any hints, templates? |
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| 09:22.16 | tdkk | hello, was anyone in here infected with the birus iptabLes/X |
| 09:22.17 | tdkk | ? |
| 09:22.28 | tdkk | virus* |
| 09:22.46 | tdkk | cd #flood |
| 09:23.00 | aborrero | markotitel, yes. keys IMHO: network schemas, network graph, network data (FQNDs, addresses) then an overview of the services, with the config and how to manage it |
| 09:23.33 | aborrero | I can't give you concrete examples, as they are private and in spanish :-) |
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| 09:24.20 | aborrero | tdkk, what is that? would you please elaborate? |
| 09:25.15 | tdkk | yesterday i found out the my machine had a 20M outbound traffic. The cause has the process .iptabLes |
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| 09:28.18 | ageis | I can't get i386/multiarch to work on wheezy... I've tried everything I could find on the internet. I have a couple newer packages from sid and a couple from squeeze but nothing that should affect this. it just won't install the dependencies and forces me to remove 32-bit packages instead |
| 09:28.39 | tdkk | there were some 4 binaries at /boot/, those were /boot/IptabLex /boot/IptabLes /boot/.IptabLex /boot/.IptabLes , then there were scripts in order to start this process after a reboot here /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S55IptabLex /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S55IptabLes /etc/rc.d/rc4.d/S55IptabLex /etc/rc.d/rc4.d/S55IptabLes /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S55IptabLex /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S55IptabLes /etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S55IptabLex /etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S55IptabLes /etc/rc.d/IptabLes/e |
| 09:28.46 | mjt | so it looks like it is an executable, put into /boot/.iptabLex or similar, and run from /etc/init.d/iptables script, both usually installed by ssh brute force |
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| 09:29.05 | tdkk | these scripts : /etc/rc.d/init.d/IptabLes /etc/rc.d/init.d/IptabLex |
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| 09:29.40 | tdkk | I m just trying to figure out how it managed to get on my machine |
| 09:29.44 | mjt | so you shouldn't worry about this "virus" itself, because it can be trivially removed, but you should worry about what _other_ stuff they've put there |
| 09:30.07 | mjt | ie, don't be afraid of what you see, but be afraid of what you don't see :) |
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| 09:30.10 | tdkk | i removed it, what makes me wonder is how they got in, and what did they put inside |
| 09:30.17 | aborrero | tdkk, well, I guess the name is not something important: clearly they have nothing to do with iptables |
| 09:30.28 | tdkk | of course not |
| 09:30.42 | mjt | the 'net says the usual infection vector is ssh brute force attack |
| 09:30.52 | tdkk | i m just describing the problem to see if anyone had the same issue. I only found info on that on some chinese websites |
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| 09:31.04 | aborrero | tdkk, I would suggest to put the machine in quarantine, analice logs, look for rootkits and so on |
| 09:31.25 | mjt | or, better yet, reinstall |
| 09:32.41 | aborrero | mjt, I think its better to do some analisis previous to reinstallation. If not, you may encounter the same problem in a couple of weeks |
| 09:33.08 | mjt | tdkk: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23debian/20140425.html.gz -- it looks like it has been there already before :) |
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| 09:38.56 | mjt | tdkk: some reports indicates something called ElasticSearch - do you have that too? |
| 09:39.39 | markotitel | aborrero, thanks |
| 09:40.33 | tdkk | Yeap |
| 09:40.37 | tdkk | this is where i m heading |
| 09:40.43 | tdkk | thanks mjt |
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| 09:42.06 | mjt | it'd be nice to ask them. if that's the case, it is a VERY serious, most likely architectural, issue |
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| 09:42.47 | mjt | network-facing component should never run as root or expose root in other ways |
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| 09:43.31 | mjt | and this elasticsearch thing appears to be a) network-facing and b) running as root |
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| 09:54.35 | CeBe | mjt: when installing elasticsearch from the official .deb package it will run as elasticsearch user |
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| 09:56.00 | mjt | well, maybe there's more than one vulnerability being exploited here |
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| 10:03.41 | neo1691 | If I want to benchmark my external HDD for read/write speeds using "dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/output conv=fdatasync bs=384k count=1k" I will first have to cd to my hdd right? |
| 10:03.56 | neo1691 | Because I don't see any /dev/sdc in the command |
| 10:04.51 | HiSPeed | hi, i m pretty sure that the current wheezy version of apache (2.2.22-13) is fine, exploitwise, but still since some unknown website warned me about version 2.2.22 I am asking here, if there is a newer version for apache 2.2 in wheezy anywhere |
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| 10:05.23 | HiSPeed | neo1691, increase bs.. bs=16M for physical hdds, bs=32M for ssds.. at least those were the value with the most "performance" during dd tests here |
| 10:05.50 | HiSPeed | oh wait, external? good luck then :) |
| 10:06.00 | neo1691 | HiSPeed: I want to test the speed of WD external hdd |
| 10:06.01 | HiSPeed | using more than 384k would be ok as well I think |
| 10:06.13 | mjt | "have to cd to my hdd" is nice |
| 10:06.16 | HiSPeed | so in other words you want to test the speed of the USB3 / esata uplink? ;) |
| 10:06.24 | neo1691 | yes HiSPeed |
| 10:06.24 | HiSPeed | or USB2 ? |
| 10:06.28 | neo1691 | mjt: Am I right |
| 10:06.33 | neo1691 | HiSPeed: USB 3.0 |
| 10:06.36 | HiSPeed | then increase blocksize, and let it run for a few moments |
| 10:06.43 | neo1691 | How much |
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| 10:07.46 | mjt | if that's a regular hdd (not ssd), reading speed will be about the same as writing speed, so it is enough to test /dev/sdX directly for _reading_ |
| 10:07.52 | neo1691 | But I have to run the dd command on top the parent directory of the hdd right? Sorry for a noobish question |
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| 10:07.57 | HiSPeed | you could write a script that does count=125 bs=8M and so on.. for blocksize from 1M all the way to 16M and check this way how much transfer speed you actually got, doing 1GB of data per testrun |
| 10:08.15 | HiSPeed | mjt, yeah.. IF you are lucky ;-) |
| 10:08.21 | HiSPeed | it is an external usb3 so who knows ;) |
| 10:08.28 | mjt | what does it mean, lucky? |
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| 10:08.30 | neo1691 | I am not getting any of these |
| 10:08.36 | HiSPeed | read is usually faster than write |
| 10:08.44 | HiSPeed | no matter what hardware you are on |
| 10:08.47 | mjt | on hdds, it is usally the same :) |
| 10:08.48 | HiSPeed | except when using heavy caching |
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| 10:09.13 | mjt | it does any i/o at the rotation speed, no matter which direction |
| 10:09.57 | neo1691 | Just answer one question pls. I have to cd in the directory where the hdd is mounted and then run dd right? |
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| 10:10.24 | mjt | neo1691: you told dd to write to /tmp/something - it doesn't matter where you cd to, at all |
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| 10:10.43 | mjt | (and read from /dev/zero) |
| 10:11.08 | neo1691 | mjt: Then How can I be sure that the dd command is working on my external hdd (/dev/sdc) and not on the internal hdd (/dev/sda)? |
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| 10:11.24 | mjt | i don't understand the question |
| 10:11.32 | mjt | you tell it where to read/write, no? |
| 10:11.43 | HiSPeed | mount the external hdd to some mountpoint, then write data to it (ie of=/mnt/externalhdd/somefile.tmp) |
| 10:11.44 | mjt | and you told it to read from /dev/zero and write to /tmp/something |
| 10:11.57 | HiSPeed | that way you can "make sure you write to the right hd" |
| 10:12.00 | neo1691 | HiSPeed: You got the question |
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| 10:12.05 | mjt | it is most likely already mounted on /media/something |
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| 10:12.22 | HiSPeed | mjt, you have to think more basic for this guy ;-) |
| 10:12.25 | neo1691 | mjt: Yes its mounted on /media/MyPassport |
| 10:12.41 | neo1691 | The command on the internet was this "dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/output conv=fdatasync bs=384k count=1k" |
| 10:12.44 | neo1691 | and it was confusing me |
| 10:13.02 | mjt | and this non-direct datasync write is quite a bad test, btw |
| 10:13.17 | mjt | but i'm shutting up now |
| 10:13.20 | neo1691 | I have to modify my command like this "dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/MyPassport/output conv=fdatasync bs=384k count=1k" |
| 10:13.39 | neo1691 | mjt: Is the above also bad test? |
| 10:13.48 | neo1691 | Please go ahead |
| 10:13.51 | mjt | it is the same test |
| 10:13.55 | HiSPeed | well, /dev/zero could be a bad test, too.. easily made more "performant" by compression.. better use some big file you cooked up with /dev/urandom beforehand, and then copy that file onto itself ;-) |
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| 10:14.15 | neo1691 | ok |
| 10:14.24 | mjt | for a hdd it doesn't matter. but for sandforce-based ssds it is a good point |
| 10:14.42 | HiSPeed | i was thinking about cheeky drivers ;-) |
| 10:14.54 | neo1691 | HiSPeed: http://askubuntu.com/a/226322/52435 something like this |
| 10:15.01 | HiSPeed | "oh our hardware is sooo good! 500GBit/s on a USB2 port!" |
| 10:15.03 | HiSPeed | ;-) |
| 10:15.27 | HiSPeed | neo1691, so? read waht i wrote |
| 10:15.29 | mjt | you have to transfer those zeros over usb anyway |
| 10:15.35 | HiSPeed | i said "which you cooked up BEFOREHAND" |
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| 10:15.48 | HiSPeed | the implication there was "in sufficient size" |
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| 10:16.03 | mjt | gosh. so many "tests", all wrong.. ;) |
| 10:16.10 | neo1691 | I will try to understand whatever you both are saying |
| 10:16.19 | neo1691 | slowly it will happen |
| 10:16.25 | mjt | really quite from now on. it is hopeless |
| 10:16.29 | mjt | quiet |
| 10:16.30 | HiSPeed | hhe |
| 10:16.32 | hatter_ | Can any of you recommend other IRC chat channels that are as good as this one ? like networking subjects or hardware subjects ? |
| 10:16.34 | HiSPeed | i can see why |
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| 10:17.26 | HiSPeed | in any case, to my original question: what s the current version for apache 2.2 on wheezy? apt-cache shows me 2.2.22-13, yet some webtool some weirdo used on my website thinks the apache is outdated and DANGEROUS |
| 10:17.27 | HiSPeed | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.09 | mjt | that's a typical issue of many apps like that |
| 10:18.17 | HiSPeed | ye |
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| 10:18.29 | HiSPeed | in my eyes, it s because of the "enterprisey" standards debian uses |
| 10:18.32 | mjt | they look at versions instead of checking actual vulns |
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| 10:19.03 | HiSPeed | but some random guy on a random website thinks it s bad, even though it is not.. and publishes such data as "vulnerabilities" on the website |
| 10:19.32 | buu | And you care why? |
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| 10:19.45 | HiSPeed | well, said site does offer you to "patch and protect my site" .. for a few of course ;-)) |
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| 10:19.56 | buu | .... |
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| 10:20.48 | HiSPeed | ah, i was just randomly checking back my wot rating (ye, i know, wot...).. and realized a site with html5 and a few .js files that dont have ANY communication with the outside world after loading.. is branded as "malware" "phishing" and a few other colourful flags |
| 10:21.05 | HiSPeed | s/few/fee/ |
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| 10:21.45 | HiSPeed | but it s just a html page with included javascript files that rerender the html site in pre-ajax style dynamically |
| 10:21.50 | HiSPeed | it s made for offline use ;) |
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| 10:25.38 | HiSPeed | so, anyhow.. the most current version is indeed 2.2.22-13 ? or where might i find out the official current versions of wheezy packages? |
| 10:26.02 | HiSPeed | (just making sure the repository of the isp hosting the server is up-to-date) |
| 10:26.19 | mjt | it was fun when one of our customers, who insisted on using rhel, once tried to run some big ent. vulnerability scanner, and it reported a ton of vulnerabilities in each of the rhel servers |
| 10:26.54 | HiSPeed | haha |
| 10:27.04 | HiSPeed | well, I'm using rhel at work and it's quite ok ;-) |
| 10:27.07 | mjt | but later on they updated "vuln definitions" and it stopped, because it learned which redhat revisions of the pakages in question fixed what |
| 10:27.09 | HiSPeed | (I do not have to pay for it ;-)) |
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| 10:27.37 | mjt | so rhel servers went from "all vulnerable" to "all okay" at once |
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| 10:27.41 | HiSPeed | nice! |
| 10:27.42 | HiSPeed | ;_) |
| 10:27.57 | mjt | but debian servers continued to be "all vulnerable" |
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| 10:28.59 | mjt | these had much fresh versions of the affected software, so it had less vulnerabilities initially, but since the vuln definitions didn't include debian revisions of fixes, it continued to be at that level |
| 10:29.18 | HiSPeed | well, it's getting more and more rare to get quality for a random newly occuring website or service |
| 10:29.40 | HiSPeed | and if services are provided, the website's detection rate is usually tainted toward what is being sold |
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| 10:31.06 | HiSPeed | next up: h1n1 ! ;) |
| 10:31.40 | mjt | ,versions apache |
| 10:31.41 | judd | No package named 'apache' was found in i386. |
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| 10:31.52 | HiSPeed | contrary to popular belief, more services provided does not remove the need to use your brain. |
| 10:31.58 | HiSPeed | ,versions apache2 |
| 10:31.59 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u1; jessie: 2.4.9-1; sid: 2.4.9-1 |
| 10:32.08 | HiSPeed | so yes, it is the most current |
| 10:32.11 | HiSPeed | thanks :) |
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| 10:32.22 | mjt | the +deb7u1 is very important |
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| 10:32.29 | HiSPeed | so either this is the official versioning.. or it has the same data my isp's wheezy repository has |
| 10:32.33 | HiSPeed | i know |
| 10:32.36 | HiSPeed | it has that flag |
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| 10:32.54 | HiSPeed | it's just a pain to write out all the time |
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| 10:34.57 | HiSPeed | hehe, i just realized.. that website the other guy used, sitecheck.sucuri.net.. it does NOT have a contact form to contact them about the sitecheck's results (ie. comment on it).. big flagpole there, that this is a scam |
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| 10:36.46 | gdm85 | hi guys. I need some help with chroots; I am using LXC with Debian Wheezy inside and I am experiencing a weird issue |
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| 10:36.55 | gdm85 | sshd exits with: chroot("/var/run/sshd"): Operation not permitted [preauth] |
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| 10:37.21 | gdm85 | I am pretty sure this has to do with domains.. |
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| 10:38.12 | mjt | gdm85: maybe it's better to ask in #lxcontainers (iirc) |
| 10:38.20 | gdm85 | mjt: uhm..maybe, yes |
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| 10:38.35 | mjt | generally, take a look what caps you reomove |
| 10:38.47 | gdm85 | mjt: yeah it's about the capabilities for sure |
| 10:38.48 | mjt | check if you allow chroot |
| 10:39.10 | gdm85 | thanks for the tips |
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| 10:40.02 | mjt | lxc.cap.dro and lxc.cap.keep |
| 10:40.03 | doublehp_ | issue with pre-partitionned device: 3T disk, manually partitionned before install (gdisk, GPT, resized to 512 slots), started netinst; /proc/mdstats shows working raid block that uses disk1-part4, but manual partition tool does not show any partition in disk1; why ? even /proc/partitions shows it ... so really NOT a kernel issue. |
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| 10:40.09 | mjt | drop* |
| 10:40.53 | buu | doublehp_: This is unrelated by why do you have a raid made up of disk partitions? |
| 10:41.21 | mjt | why not? |
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| 10:43.01 | doublehp_ | buu: because ... my BIOS is not able to read the kernel on a raid block; so i need to put /boot in a partition, and, set up the rest of the disk as a large partition |
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| 10:43.22 | mjt | heh |
| 10:44.25 | doublehp_ | mjt: there are other debatable reasons ... but not in mood to detail them. I mix raid5 and raid6 :D |
| 10:44.44 | doublehp_ | buu: to have /home in raid5, /backup in raid6, and swap in raid0 |
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| 10:45.25 | mjt | that mixing is a good reason. but saying you bios can't read raid blocks - _assuming_ it is raid1 (since you didn't say overwise) - is not a reason :) |
| 10:45.45 | doublehp_ | mjt: assuming is bad |
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| 10:46.05 | doublehp_ | raid1 sux: poor write perf |
| 10:46.08 | mjt | tho, for swap it is better to have 2 separate devices instead of raid0 |
| 10:46.11 | Marfu | hello |
| 10:46.14 | mjt | lol |
| 10:46.27 | Marfu | I'm lookinf sponsor packages |
| 10:47.22 | doublehp_ | mjt: single part gives 180M/s, raid0 give 600M/s; you must specify the chunk size to WA alignment issues |
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| 10:48.07 | mjt | measured using 'dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile; sync' ? :) |
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| 10:48.33 | doublehp_ | mjt: using iotop |
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| 10:49.13 | HiSPeed | Marfu, https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#What.27s_a_sponsor.2C_why_do_I_want_one.2C_and_how_do_I_get_one.3F ? |
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| 10:49.25 | doublehp_ | raid chat is OT; why does installer not see my partitions when kernel detects them ? |
| 10:49.32 | HiSPeed | not being really part of the debian community, I'm pretty sure you are not doing this kind of stuff via IRC |
| 10:49.34 | Marfu | HiSPeed, I 'm looking here ;-) |
| 10:49.46 | HiSPeed | well good luck then |
| 10:50.04 | HiSPeed | tried that in fedora once.. in the end I just stopped packaging altogether |
| 10:50.05 | HiSPeed | :> |
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| 10:50.35 | mjt | there's #debian-mentors on oftc. |
| 10:50.46 | HiSPeed | now that's a point where I would start |
| 10:50.49 | HiSPeed | if I were you |
| 10:50.50 | HiSPeed | :-) |
| 10:51.06 | mjt | but for a start, it's a debian newmaint guide |
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| 10:51.22 | mjt | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ |
| 10:52.21 | mjt | and many other docs on the topic -- https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers etc etc |
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| 10:53.51 | gdm85 | but is it even possible to tell sshd to not attempt to chroot /var/run/sshd ? |
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| 10:54.20 | __odie | i run debian wheezy and installed some testing packages, how can i roll back to complete 'stable' repo? |
| 10:54.44 | wols | !tell __odie about partial downgrade |
| 10:55.04 | __odie | wols, this bot commands amaze me everytime |
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| 10:57.00 | doublehp_ | wols: is it possible you helped me once to setup a boot block for grub2 on sdb a way that it would work after moving disk to sda ? |
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| 10:57.34 | wols | doublehp_: no. and if BIOS order of disks changes, grub will be very sad and stop working |
| 10:57.49 | wols | basically, you cannot do this, more or less |
| 10:58.00 | mjt | wow |
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| 10:58.09 | doublehp_ | wols: someone from IRC did it once for me ... |
| 10:58.13 | mjt | i used this for many years, now you say I can't.. :) |
| 10:58.17 | doublehp_ | wols: i ll try #grub |
| 10:59.34 | doublehp_ | wols: and i don't have the choice, cause i found a bug in the installer; so i ll have to do debootstrap; so ... disk move |
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| 11:00.29 | mjt | you generate separate devices.map for the second hd, pretending it is hd0 |
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| 11:01.36 | wols | doublehp_: can you boot from USB on that PC where you will use it? |
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| 11:03.04 | doublehp_ | wols: good idea ... |
| 11:03.45 | wols | run a Live USB stick there and you can use debootstrap too |
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| 11:04.17 | doublehp_ | wols: no; not this way: use the USB as temp boot block. |
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| 11:07.25 | HiSPeed | doublehp_, maybe you used serial numbers or uuids in that grub conf |
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| 11:08.22 | mjt | the prob with grub is its primary loader, it should be able to find second-stage loader |
| 11:08.49 | mjt | if you just install it to sdb[1], it will try to read itself from bios disk 0x81, not 0x80 |
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| 11:11.34 | mjt | so you add a line '(hd0) /dev/sdb' to /boot/grub/device.map before installing grub to /dev/sdb |
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| 11:13.49 | doublehp_ | found a 2nd bug in installer: it refuses to install to preconfigured LVM |
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| 11:16.23 | Marfu | what i can put my package to mentors. ... |
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| 11:17.11 | Marfu | dput write : No signature, but signature exist. |
| 11:17.43 | neo1691 | I just wanted to test my internal microphone for my laptop. Audacity seems way too complicated. Is there any simple tool to test microphone or recording sound for that matter? |
| 11:17.47 | Marfu | I dput -u but on https://mentors.debian.net/ nothing happened |
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| 11:21.35 | doublehp_ | neo1691: in alsamixer, unmite the mic ... and you ll hear yourself |
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| 11:21.50 | budai | neo1691: Audacity isn't very complicated if you just want to test your microphone. Set the input to your internal device, and hit the record button? |
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| 11:22.06 | doublehp_ | neo1691: you may want to press F3 or F4 |
| 11:22.08 | mjt | how to get to hw controls in alsamixer? |
| 11:22.30 | mjt | it just shows pulseaudio virtual controls here... |
| 11:22.31 | doublehp_ | mjt: F1 |
| 11:22.58 | neo1691 | doublehp_: if I open alsamixer I see only one bar. I need to change my device to get all the other channels |
| 11:23.13 | neo1691 | Is my default sound card set to something else? |
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| 11:23.34 | mjt | one bar, pulseaudio master volume |
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| 11:23.45 | mjt | f1 does not change that |
| 11:23.47 | doublehp_ | neo1691: if you have many devices, i forgot how to switch; read the top of alsamixer |
| 11:23.56 | jelly | neo1691: press F6 |
| 11:24.19 | doublehp_ | F6 |
| 11:24.25 | neo1691 | I can switch using F6, just wanted to ask if there is something as default card which is somehow disable my mic? |
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| 11:26.04 | doublehp_ | neo1691: #alsa ; i forot how to custom this; there is a very good tuto in ALSA forum |
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| 11:26.17 | neo1691 | Hmm! Thanks |
| 11:27.18 | Marfu | hallo. How I sign my files to dput ? |
| 11:27.48 | Marfu | dput errors no sign file, but what I can tell dput where it is? |
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| 11:33.26 | mjt | Marfu: debsign |
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| 11:48.52 | doublehp_ | grub-install says embedding is not possible, blocklist must be used, but is not reliable, so refuses to do it |
| 11:48.55 | doublehp_ | is it impossible to install grub2 on GPT ? |
| 11:49.33 | Extensa5630G | holy shit...i forgot that i have an important set of 8GB of files in a partition that had debian , so i 'removed' that partition by mistake, i wonder if recovering those files is possible ,if yes, aren't there some efficient free tools for that? |
| 11:50.34 | wols | testdisk |
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| 11:50.48 | rozie | Extensa5630G: yes, testdisk. make image of the partition first |
| 11:50.50 | rozie | (dd) |
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| 11:53.08 | Extensa5630G | rozie, but the files are already removed , how would making an image of the partition recover the said files |
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| 11:53.51 | Extensa5630G | i run win7 now |
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| 11:55.07 | wols | Extensa5630G: then ask ##windows |
| 11:55.51 | rozie | Extensa5630G: well, it's your data. I'd strongly suggest that you make backup before playing with testidisk |
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| 11:56.07 | rozie | but you will do whatever you wish |
| 11:56.28 | Extensa5630G | rozie, but the said partition is already an unallocated space now :P |
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| 11:56.48 | rozie | so? |
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| 11:57.21 | rozie | 1. make backup of whole drive |
| 11:57.30 | rozie | 2. make backup of unallocated space |
| 11:57.39 | Extensa5630G | rozie, i was just wondering what's the point of making an image of that unallocated free space :p |
| 11:57.47 | Extensa5630G | well point taken.* |
| 11:57.51 | doublehp_ | Extensa5630G: if you just did fdisk, but not mkfs, data are 100% safe; recreate part |
| 11:57.53 | rozie | 3. create partition in partition table, make backup of partition |
| 11:58.03 | doublehp_ | Extensa5630G: if you did mkfs, it's way more complicated |
| 11:59.20 | rozie | doublehp_: they are never 100% safe. especially when recovery will be handled by unexperience person seeing the software for the first time... |
| 12:00.08 | rozie | you never know if there was some unallocated space on beggining/end of unallocated space... |
| 12:00.14 | doublehp_ | Extensa5630G: if you did mkfs AND put data, it's over; worth try only if you just did mkfs and did not put stuff in. If did not do mkfs, just recreate the partition at the same place, and mount. Don't do it from Windows, use a live CD. |
| 12:00.47 | doublehp_ | ah yes, testdisk will help if there was unalocated |
| 12:01.08 | doublehp_ | rozie: i do know: now, I put 128M between parts :) |
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| 12:01.50 | rozie | we are talking about 8GB. c'mon. backup first. |
| 12:01.56 | Extensa5630G | doublehp_, anyway, i just removed the said partit° that contained my files :p |
| 12:02.00 | Extensa5630G | rozie, alright, will do |
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| 12:08.53 | DammitJim | how can I troubleshoot suspending a laptop? I'm on jessie and hibernation or suspend isn't working |
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| 12:30.35 | martinus | Hi #debian! Is this the place to ask simple questions when google-fu has failed me or is there a more appropriate channel? |
| 12:31.34 | doublehp_ | !tell martinus about ask |
| 12:31.43 | martinus | many thanks. :) |
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| 12:32.34 | wols | martinus: you can ask anything as long as it's debian support related |
| 12:32.39 | doublehp_ | martinus: for offtopic, try #defocus |
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| 12:34.06 | martinus | In that case - I used usermod to change the location of my home folder. Everything appears to have gone to plan with one exception scripts (bash and python) which seem to have the correct user permissions cannot be run. |
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| 12:35.04 | martinus | specifically, any time I use ./scriptname.py or ./scriptname.sh |
| 12:35.32 | martinus | I get a "No such file or directory" message from bash. |
| 12:35.37 | doublehp_ | martinus: partitions mounted with noexec ? |
| 12:35.48 | martinus | I'll check. |
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| 12:36.08 | martinus | Ah, yes they are! |
| 12:36.10 | doublehp_ | martinus: i had this issue once ... forgot |
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| 12:40.56 | martinus | Weird, I thought exec was the default mount behaviour. Regardless, to the docs! :) |
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| 12:43.28 | martinus | Time for a test, thanks for the help, doublehp_. :) |
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| 13:49.51 | Axel | Hello, I am new to Debian. I am trying to install openssl package using apt-get, but it wants to install it from a local CD drive, than from the net. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 13:50.11 | Axel | command I am using is: apt-get install libssl-dev |
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| 13:51.32 | mjt | !sources.list |
| 13:51.32 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
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| 13:52.14 | mjt | Axel: that's how you tell it where to install from |
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| 13:54.23 | Axel | thanks, mjt |
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| 13:56.50 | cognew | I have some problems running apt-get update |
| 13:56.54 | cognew | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.89 80] |
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| 13:58.10 | cognew | for sure the Pakages file is not present on the server, but there are the Pagkages.gz and .bz2 |
| 13:58.41 | cognew | I guess that apt-get will try to get the compressed version |
| 13:58.41 | aegirs | cognew, the server don't work |
| 13:58.55 | mjt | so they all don't work |
| 13:59.09 | mjt | because it is on all mirrors in all arches :) |
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| 13:59.56 | aegirs | you are right, sorry ^^' |
| 14:00.26 | mjt | my apt-get always fetches .gz |
| 14:00.55 | cognew | mjt: sorry I do not get it. There are problem on the servers? What is "it" in "it is on all mirrors.."? |
| 14:01.19 | mjt | cognew: the same thing - missing Packages but present Packages.{gz,bz2} |
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| 14:02.54 | cognew | I tried also with: apt-get -o Acquire::CompressionTypes::Order::=bz2 update |
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| 14:03.21 | themill | cognew: perhaps you could pastebin the entire output of apt-get update. |
| 14:03.54 | themill | add -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=true' for good measure ;) |
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| 14:04.21 | mjt | that Acquire arg does not look right |
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| 14:05.12 | cognew | yes the Acquire arg dumps some binary data in the sell |
| 14:05.35 | themill | shouldn't do |
| 14:05.38 | themill | mjt: in what way? |
| 14:05.53 | martin-_- | hi there I want to install a brand new debian on this nas http://wiki.dietpc.org/index.php/DIET-PC_on_SPARC_ReadyNAS#Official_Firmware But I'm not sure if the offical linux kernel supports the specific hardware on this machine |
| 14:06.22 | cognew | I get something like: Content-Type: application/x-bzip2/�yQU�j]�2�s. ]D�����Q��8\O��o |
| 14:07.18 | mjt | themill: i mean cognew's CompressionTypes::Order::=bz2 - but this might be just because I never tried to assign a _list_ to an apt variable |
| 14:07.34 | mjt | (at any rate it has no effect on Packages.gz fetching) |
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| 14:07.51 | themill | mjt: ahh. I've never successfully set Compression::Types from the commandline actually. I started to wonder if it was an apt bug in there. |
| 14:08.06 | themill | cognew: that's quite wrong. Do you have some sort of proxy there? |
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| 14:08.42 | cognew | I removed the proxy, I was using apt-cacher-ng |
| 14:09.03 | cognew | to be sure, I stopped it and unset the http_proxy var |
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| 14:11.01 | cognew | I also set up a vagrant box (where apt-get update works as expected) on my pc to compare the /etc/apt tree, but did not found significant differences |
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| 14:12.54 | themill | cognew: what does «wget --server-response http://128.61.240.89/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2» show (stick it in paste.debian.net for us) |
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| 14:14.25 | cognew | themill, will do in 1 min, I suspect bad RAM, now I do not have the binary in the output, but another problem... |
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| 14:14.51 | themill | cognew: yeah, apt is good at testing out RAM. I've found that before. |
| 14:15.27 | cognew | the download with wget was succesful |
| 14:15.49 | themill | it was the headers I was interested in seeing |
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| 14:16.41 | cognew | also the apt-get update (I left only the security line) got the file, but unfortunately it seems that there is another problem |
| 14:16.44 | cognew | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
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| 14:16.55 | cognew | will paste the headers in the meantime |
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| 14:17.42 | cognew | here they are: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/176a0b19/ |
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| 14:19.19 | themill | So the server is actually sending «Content-Type: application/octet-stream» not «Content-Type: application/x-bzip2/(stuff)» too. |
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| 14:23.04 | cognew | is there a memtest that I can do "live", memtest86(+) sees to work only at boot menu? IIRC there should be one |
| 14:23.25 | gdm85 | what do you use to verify .deb package hashes against a set of mirrors? |
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| 14:23.44 | gdm85 | cognew: you could easily write a C program to do that :P |
| 14:23.58 | gdm85 | cognew: but I am sure a search on sourceforge/freshcode/github will give you a-plenty |
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| 14:25.22 | themill | gdm85: apt does that for you |
| 14:25.37 | gdm85 | themill: against multiple mirrors? |
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| 14:26.09 | themill | why would it be different on different mirrors? (what are you really trying to do here?) |
| 14:27.24 | gdm85 | themill: that does not matter. what I want to do is stated in my question: verify deb packages' hashes of different mirrors |
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| 14:27.34 | cognew | well, the security has no mirror... |
| 14:27.37 | gdm85 | e.g. in case they are different |
| 14:27.42 | themill | gdm85: it does matter. What are you really trying to do here? |
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| 14:27.56 | cognew | of course it resolves to different ip |
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| 14:28.19 | cognew | I even tried to force the ip to different host using /etc/hosts... |
| 14:28.24 | gdm85 | cognew: because it's load-balanced? |
| 14:28.32 | cognew | gdm85: I think so |
| 14:28.50 | cognew | but the gpg still fails |
| 14:29.04 | themill | cognew: that's a local problem at your end though |
| 14:29.06 | cognew | I will check the ram, it will take few mins |
| 14:29.14 | themill | s/mins/hours/ ;) |
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| 14:35.54 | secretpow | Hi, I'm trying to set up BIND9 with DLZ on my box. It looks like the bind9 package was compiled with DLZ support, but none of the drivers I tried to use is supported. How do I install the DLZ drivers? |
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| 14:37.55 | hussein00 | HEY guys. i want to install debian with pendrive, i stocked in this step? |
| 14:37.57 | dutchfish | secretpow, i am only aware of the dlz-ldap-enum in debian stable (ldap) |
| 14:38.04 | hussein00 | http://8pic.ir/images/16594730996371874062.jpg |
| 14:38.08 | cognew | really a bad day... the keyboard is not working in the grub menu, so I am not able to choose memtest86+ |
| 14:38.11 | hussein00 | http://8pic.ir/images/14356734310641828934.jpg |
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| 14:38.55 | cognew | i even removed the KVM stuff, seems strange since the keyboard allows me to enter in the bios... |
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| 14:39.56 | themill | hussein00: how did you copy the image to the usb stick? |
| 14:40.33 | hussein00 | i have tried yummi ! and universal usb installer! ? |
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| 14:40.44 | secretpow | dutchfish, oh, that's interesting |
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| 14:40.50 | secretpow | Looks like the dlopen driver is available |
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| 14:41.29 | __odie | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:41.32 | __odie | whups |
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| 14:42.29 | secretpow | Do you happen to know whether the other drivers are available as .so files? The bind9 package doesn't seem to ship any |
| 14:42.41 | hussein00 | themill, the vmware knows the usb stick well and i can install it, but when it comes to reality the machine cant detect the drive |
| 14:43.16 | themill | hussein00: if you're installing in vmware then you don't need to copy the image to a physical device |
| 14:43.38 | dutchfish | secretpow, thats the path i walked openldap -> bind9 -> dump to mysql <-- reload |
| 14:44.20 | dutchfish | secretpow, so no direct database but over config files (better security) |
| 14:44.31 | dutchfish | secretpow, and offline editing |
| 14:45.09 | dutchfish | secretpow, even in the many split brain setups i did |
| 14:46.49 | secretpow | Hm |
| 14:46.50 | dutchfish | secretpow, my mysql is only reachable in the backend, no direct bindings to bind9 |
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| 14:46.58 | hussein00 | themill, no i wanna install it on my physical device,, vmware was just for testing the usb stick! |
| 14:47.00 | dutchfish | secretpow, again, security |
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| 14:47.22 | dutchfish | secretpow, and performance ;) |
| 14:47.26 | themill | hussein00: do you have a linux machine there already? |
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| 14:48.00 | dutchfish | secretpow, and to top it off, easy backup ;) |
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| 14:49.12 | dutchfish | secretpow, have fun |
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| 14:49.30 | secretpow | Lol yeah, will have |
| 14:49.36 | hussein00 | themil, yes, im now with linux mint!.. why is that? |
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| 14:54.51 | themill | hussein00: you can just: "cp foo.iso /dev/sdX". Make sure you copy it to the right device. |
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| 15:09.43 | hussein00 | thx/... |
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| 15:10.27 | mjt | damn. I was wondering why my nfs server is so slow. It turned out that it was tumblerd running on the client trying to index - apparently - whole 2Tb of archives.. |
| 15:11.14 | mjt | who requests thumbnails? and why it is indexing all the random stuff? |
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| 15:11.37 | mjt | my ~/.thumbnails/ is 12Gb large now |
| 15:12.45 | mjt | removes tumbler package and ~/.thumbnails/ |
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| 15:15.10 | lazarus477 | I am setting up PhpMyAdmin using the setup URL method. Instructions refer to creating a directory named config so that the setup script can save the config.inc.php configuration. My problem is I do not know where to create the directory? I have tried at /usr/share/phpmyadmin/config and /usr/share/phpmyadmin/setup/config but neither is right. |
| 15:16.31 | cognew | mjt, themill: I replaced the ram (no memtest on the old one, as I was not able tho control grub) and all the problems are gone after a rm of the local cache /var/lib/apt/lists |
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| 15:17.14 | mjt | that's very good (well, to some extent) |
| 15:17.17 | themill | well I guess that's both good and bad news |
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| 15:17.32 | buu | oh |
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| 15:17.46 | RoyK | cognew: you can put memtest86+ on a usb thingie or cdrom easily |
| 15:18.33 | Tom01 | Is 2 GB ram enough to run Debian? |
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| 15:18.50 | lazarus477 | Tom01: yes |
| 15:18.59 | Tom01 | great |
| 15:19.18 | wolfy1339 | how do i add an authorized ssh key to debian? |
| 15:19.21 | RoyK | Tom01: it is, but it all depends what sort of software to run on top of debian ;) |
| 15:19.26 | RoyK | wolfy1339: ssh-copy-id ? |
| 15:19.31 | lazarus477 | Tom01: I even run debian on an older mini laptop running an Atom CPU and 1GB ram, excelent little tool machine. |
| 15:19.41 | lazarus477 | Tom01: Runs Gnome3 without issues. |
| 15:19.50 | cognew | yea, good because is resolved, bad because of the waste of everyone time, thanks again for your suggesions |
| 15:19.54 | Tom01 | lazarus477: that's good |
| 15:20.11 | wolfy1339 | RoyK: nope, command not found |
| 15:20.49 | RoyK | then copy the line in $HOME/.ssh/id_rsa.pub (or id_dsa.pub) to the server's $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 15:21.18 | RoyK | some older versions of ssh doesn't have ssh-copy-id |
| 15:21.24 | cognew | RoyK: I will have a look to memtest on usb, but it really scares me that the keyboard is not working in the grub menu, i will retry now with the new ram, to see if it is related |
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| 15:22.25 | RoyK | cognew: I might have seen kbd/grub issues, but not sure. if it's a memory issue, then you should see it quite quickly by random segfaults etc |
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| 15:24.14 | RoyK | cognew: just a wild guess - are you using native (usb) or compatibility mode (ps2) for the keyboard (settable in BIOS on some machines)? |
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| 15:24.52 | catz` | cya mates |
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| 15:26.05 | cognew | RoyK: yes, the keyboard and grub seems related to "USB Keyboard Legacy support" that was disabled, I enabled it and now I am running memtest86+ |
| 15:26.22 | cognew | was disabled in the bios, i mean |
| 15:26.42 | cognew | I will swap the ram again to test the old one! |
| 15:26.47 | RoyK | :) |
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| 15:30.17 | Icbfge | Have anyone used the Dr.com in Debian? |
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| 15:30.34 | RoyK | what's dr.com? |
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| 15:30.47 | qman__ | Is there a way to force dpkg to overwrite/blow away a package's config without purging it first? I need to do thid but can't remove the package because of dependencies |
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| 15:32.16 | RoyK | qman__: what package? messed up the config, eh? ;) |
| 15:32.34 | qman__ | RoyK: locale |
| 15:32.44 | konadr | hi all, I am trying to automate apt-get -y upgrade from a cron job, I have tried piping yes as an answer and tried to run it via a script, i always get the same outcome, it gives and overview of the packages (including some to be held back), tells me how much there is to download and does nothing. Running this manually of course works, Any ideas on what I can try to resolve it? |
| 15:32.56 | formorer | konadr: ehm, thats nonsense. |
| 15:33.00 | qman__ | I inherited an unbelievably broken mess of a server I'm trying to salvage |
| 15:33.04 | wols | qman__: you can purge the package with dpkg anyways. and then reintall it |
| 15:33.14 | formorer | there is a debian service for unattended upgrades |
| 15:33.26 | formorer | unattended-upgrades - automatic installation of security upgrades |
| 15:33.31 | RoyK | konadr: cron-apt? |
| 15:33.34 | konadr | i only want to execute it once formorer rather than continually |
| 15:33.53 | konadr | possibly RoyK, I was just hoping there was something obviously wrong with this |
| 15:34.07 | qman__ | wols: without removing the deps? Apt won't do it but I didn't try dpkg |
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| 15:36.20 | qman__ | wols: dpkg complains about the deps too, if I use a force option will it leave the deps installed? |
| 15:36.54 | wols | qman__: dpkg can only remove the package you tell it, only apt can deal with any sort of dependency, be it add or remove it |
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| 15:37.29 | qman__ | Ok |
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| 15:38.54 | qman__ | That worked, but it didn't fix the original issue unfortunately, thanks |
| 15:38.57 | RoyK | qman__: what's so broken with locale? can't you just dpkg-reconfigure it? |
| 15:39.10 | qman__ | Nope, it won't reconfigure |
| 15:39.25 | RoyK | hands qman__ a debian cd |
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| 15:40.14 | qman__ | Its a production mail server with some complex relaying and processing, it's part etch, part lenny and won't upgrade |
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| 15:40.32 | RoyK | qman__: ouch |
| 15:40.44 | RoyK | qman__: I'd setup a new one and copy the config |
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| 15:41.29 | RoyK | qman__: mixing distros like that is the source of much evil :P |
| 15:41.31 | qman__ | The mail flow here is beyond absurd and no one really knows how it works top to bottom |
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| 15:41.47 | qman__ | Plus it has horde and a local ldap of users |
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| 15:41.59 | RoyK | qman__: I hope they pay you by the hour :P |
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| 15:42.26 | RoyK | migrating ldap and postfix(?) shouldn't be too hard |
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| 15:43.22 | jelly | qman__: then don't try to upgrade, analyze, reverse engineer and reimplement on a fresh system |
| 15:43.26 | RoyK | and if the server is in such a bad shape as you say, they can probably accept a little downtime... |
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| 15:44.00 | RoyK | jelly: normally no need to reverse engineer - mostly just copy the configs and migrate data |
| 15:44.18 | qman__ | Nope, no downtime, its an IT support company and the email is integrated into the ticketing system and the phone system |
| 15:44.37 | RoyK | qman__: with 24x7 support? |
| 15:44.40 | qman__ | Yes |
| 15:44.54 | RoyK | qman__: then they should have thought of that |
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| 15:45.06 | jelly | RoyK: copying the config from versions of software in debian 4-5 to debian 7 and expecting things to work is rather foolish |
| 15:45.24 | RoyK | jelly: not the *files*, the *configuration* |
| 15:45.26 | jelly | RoyK: if anything, slapd uses a completely different config system |
| 15:45.56 | RoyK | didn't know that ... that's rather bad |
| 15:45.57 | jelly | RoyK: you have to understand what it does and why. |
| 15:46.07 | RoyK | jelly: I know ;) |
| 15:46.12 | qman__ | I could deal with it if it was just etch, that sucks but it is workable |
| 15:46.14 | jelly | apparently not |
| 15:46.21 | formorer | you are free to still use slapd.conf |
| 15:46.23 | qman__ | But I can't do anything with this |
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| 15:46.28 | RoyK | jelly: apparently not? |
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| 15:47.44 | RoyK | jelly: I'm dealing with this sort of thing rather frequently, but I didn't know slapd had changed the config system - I don't manage our LDAP servers. So please, don't be arrogant. |
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| 15:47.58 | jelly | RoyK: perhaps we're just using different terminology. "understand what it does and why" means the same thing as "analyze, reverse engineer" |
| 15:48.12 | formorer | RoyK: as said, the old config system still works if you want |
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| 15:48.49 | qman__ | They still have a sarge prod server too |
| 15:48.51 | RoyK | jelly: IMHO reverse engineering is far deeper than just copying configuration |
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| 15:49.16 | RoyK | qman__: sarge! |
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| 15:49.42 | RoyK | qman__: what sort of server? |
| 15:49.55 | qman__ | Tomcat web server |
| 15:49.59 | RoyK | ouch |
| 15:50.00 | qman__ | Tomcat 4 |
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| 15:50.18 | RoyK | try an openvas scan against that :P |
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| 15:50.34 | qman__ | Already have, its a disaster |
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| 15:51.06 | qman__ | Nothing can be done though, you can't run a tomcat 4 app on tomcat 7, would have to be completely redeveloped |
| 15:51.24 | jelly | in any case... |
| 15:51.26 | jelly | !bat |
| 15:51.27 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 15:51.45 | jelly | qman__: if you want real help, provide actual outputs. |
| 15:52.36 | qman__ | I can, I figured no one would be willing to look at it due to age and mess |
| 15:52.47 | RoyK | qman__: I know, hence the 'ouch' |
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| 15:54.55 | RoyK | qman__: guess that company got something developed years back and didn't take into account that it had to be maintained, or perhaps the manager didn't care :P |
| 15:55.15 | qman__ | Yep |
| 15:55.24 | jelly | qman__: you figured wrong, but hey, it's your mess... |
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| 15:56.28 | jelly | I mean, why come in at all, if you didn't want or expect to get help |
| 15:56.49 | qman__ | I did, I was following a lead and it didn't work |
| 15:57.01 | qman__ | I can get that info but its going to take some time |
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| 15:58.13 | qman__ | I have to recreate the copy I used to attempt the upgrade |
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| 16:05.04 | txomon|fon | just one quick question, did anyone package atomio editor ( http://atom.io/ ) ? |
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| 16:05.30 | marceloamorim | guys, what is this staff-group-for-usr-local on /etc? |
| 16:05.47 | manishthatte | hi guys |
| 16:05.50 | manishthatte | whatsup |
| 16:06.06 | mjt | marceloamorim: how about reading it? |
| 16:06.08 | manishthatte | whats ur version marc? |
| 16:06.31 | manishthatte | or maybe post what it says |
| 16:06.43 | marceloamorim | wheezy 7.5 |
| 16:06.48 | RoyK | qman__: all machines metal? or vms? |
| 16:07.06 | qman__ | Royk: vms |
| 16:07.35 | RoyK | well, at least that's good |
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| 16:08.45 | RoyK | qman__: easier to snapshot a vm than a pm :P |
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| 16:09.41 | qman__ | Yeah |
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| 16:14.18 | kyle__ | question for photorec users: if you have raw disk images that were recenvly deleted (ala qemu/kvm), does it scan through those and recover individual files as well? |
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| 16:18.21 | jhutchins | kyle__: Looks like you're going to be the one who is able to tell the rest of us. |
| 16:18.45 | frostschutz | kyle__, depends on the image format - photorec only handles raw data such as you'd get with a dd - it does not do transparent decompression or fragmentation or what ever |
| 16:18.55 | jhutchins | kyle__: I would expect that it might recover the virtual disk, but not files from within it. |
| 16:19.43 | kyle__ | jhutchins: Heh. Well it kindof looks like that's what it's doing though. Because It's recovering hundreds of pngs that I think are part of an OpenSTEP vm I removed. |
| 16:19.46 | kyle__ | Just not 100% certain. |
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| 16:20.20 | qman__ | The potential exists, if the virtual disk format stores the data contiguously and normally on the volume |
| 16:20.23 | frostschutz | kyle__, it doesn't know that it belonged to a vm image, so if you have png data anywhere in your raw data stream, yeah sure it recovers them |
| 16:20.35 | kyle__ | nods |
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| 16:21.12 | kyle__ | That's kindof awesome. Also annoying when you're just trying to recover a few small recently deleted files. Oh well. Better to recover gigs of stuff than nothing. |
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| 16:45.59 | roflcoptr | Hey Everyone, hope all is doing well :), anyone know what the cause of this issue is: error: "error creating output file /var/log/syslog.1.gz: File exists", the file does indeed exist but that's what logrotate is supposed to take care of ?(-_-)?, any help/advise/suggestion would be appreciated, I know simply removing the file would fix, but would just like to get to the bottom of it. Thanks in advance :) |
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| 16:54.04 | MouseTheLuckyDog | If I know the name of a source file, say for example foobar.c . How can I find the package that I have to apt-get source to download the all the source? |
| 16:54.19 | roflcoptr | my apologies, ran by cron, all configs i think you'd request: http://pastebin.com/K6Tjsbxx |
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| 16:59.41 | centrx | MouseTheLuckyDog, apt-file and the bottom of packages.debian.org are used for finding binary files. May work for source files as well. |
| 17:00.30 | centrx | roflcoptr, What happens when you run /etc/cron.daily/logrotate |
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| 17:03.01 | Jobbe | i hate iceweasel 29, is there a way to force iceweasel 24 in jessie? |
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| 17:04.14 | centrx | Jobbe, You could try to find it at http://mozilla.debian.net/ for testing |
| 17:04.25 | centrx | Jobbe, You could try to install the wheezy package in jessie (might work) |
| 17:04.46 | Jobbe | that new gui of iceweasel really piss me off |
| 17:04.49 | centrx | Jobbe, You could find the last version of 24 used in jessie on snapshots.debian.net (URL might be off) |
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| 17:04.55 | Jobbe | yes |
| 17:04.58 | mjt | s/might/will/ |
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| 17:05.07 | Jobbe | if i do apt-get upgrade etc it will upgrade it to 29 though |
| 17:05.11 | centrx | Jobbe, You could recompile 24.5 for jessie using the wheezy package |
| 17:05.14 | centrx | Jobbe, Use apt pinning |
| 17:05.22 | Jobbe | i don't know apt pinning |
| 17:05.31 | centrx | Jobbe, Also remember some day not too far away 24 will no longer have security support. |
| 17:05.42 | centrx | Jobbe, So you might e.g. want to switch to chromium |
| 17:05.49 | rvdv | Jobbe: I am using debian/jessie and have Iceweasel 24.5.0 ... did do no special thing for it ... how you can have iceweasel 29? |
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| 17:05.52 | Jobbe | fuck chromium |
| 17:06.05 | mjt | stop it |
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| 17:06.10 | Jobbe | rvdv: i just did an apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:06.15 | centrx | Okay, that's all |
| 17:06.59 | centrx | rvdv, If you have an up-to-date testing installation, you are on iceweasel 29 |
| 17:07.34 | rvdv | yeah just checked .. .there is indeed a new iceweasel |
| 17:07.35 | Jobbe | Easiest fix, stop using iceweasel |
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| 17:08.09 | jmcnaught | heh.. or adapt to change |
| 17:08.31 | Jobbe | >:( |
| 17:08.56 | mtn | no way, we hates change. thats why we all still run dos |
| 17:08.56 | rvdv | doing a dist-upgrade :-) / want to see what is so bad |
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| 17:10.23 | rvdv | :-) ... great upgrade ... love the new interface |
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| 17:12.10 | rvdv | btw also like we now have a gotham xbmc version |
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| 17:29.08 | roflcoptr | centrx: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate as per my previous pastebin -> runs a test on logrotate to ensure it exists before executing it with the given config file, thus executing /etc/cron.daily/logrotate just goes to next line. Ran it manually with verbose -indicates that syslog does not need rotating "after 1 days (7 rotations)". Ran it again w/ verbose & forced gets me the following - http://pastebin.com/mejPEHw5 |
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| 17:31.04 | centrx | roflcoptr, This looks like no error? So what's wrong? |
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| 17:32.06 | roflcoptr | centrx: i know, which is what's causing me to pull my hair out :( as when the cronjob runs, it fails, mailing me with the error i provided at first. |
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| 17:39.15 | centrx | roflcoptr, Maybe it's running twice at the same time for some reason? |
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| 17:43.40 | TonyStylo | Hi how to deactivate the autorun of Iceweasel on the system start? |
| 17:44.19 | mtn | TonyStylo: which desktop or window manager do you run? |
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| 17:45.15 | TonyStylo | wheezy 64bit xfce |
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| 17:45.52 | mtn | TonyStylo: I don't use xfce, but it should have a way to autostart apps. either in settings or in the .config folder. |
| 17:46.48 | jhutchins | TonyStylo: The question is, how did you enable it? That's not standard/normal behavior. It will restart if it was running when you closed your xfce session. |
| 17:47.13 | TonyStylo | I have no idea how I have activate it |
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| 17:47.49 | ctmjr | TonyStylo: in settings/session and startup/session make sure everyting is closed then save session and restartit will be gone |
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| 17:50.27 | ctmjr | xfce is weird it like's to save the current session when you restart with running app's like web browsers |
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| 17:51.09 | ctmjr | you can also clear all saved sessions |
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| 17:51.30 | johnfg_ | hi folks |
| 17:52.15 | johnfg_ | My wheezy debian at present is on an external hard drive. I also have squeeze and winxp on the laptop. |
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| 17:52.41 | linuxuz3r | hi johnfg_ |
| 17:52.44 | linuxuz3r | cool |
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| 17:53.21 | johnfg_ | The mbr (I think) is on the external drive. This makes it where unless the external is plugged in, I can't boot. |
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| 17:53.47 | linuxuz3r | you use grub? |
| 17:53.59 | johnfg_ | Would there be any problem in having the mbr on the laptop vs. the external? linuxuz3r Yes, I use grub. |
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| 17:54.42 | linuxuz3r | you just got to have the external connected to boot the laptop |
| 17:54.57 | johnfg_ | linuxuz3r: Yes, that's how I've got it now. |
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| 17:55.13 | mtn | johnfg_: grub should be installed to /dev/sda |
| 17:55.19 | linuxuz3r | its more of a convenience issue |
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| 17:56.10 | TonyStylo | About that strange Iceweasel autostart, This is the screenshot of autostart http://i.imgur.com/X735zhw.png there's someting wrong in it? |
| 17:56.26 | Jobbe | fyi i found a way to keep iceweasel 24 |
| 17:56.26 | johnfg_ | mtn: So, should I do update-grub /dev/sda? |
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| 17:57.01 | mtn | johnfg_: grub-install /dev/sda to put it on sda |
| 17:57.31 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
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| 17:57.50 | ctmjr | TonyStylo: go one tab over and clear saved sessions |
| 17:57.58 | linuxuz3r | hi dury |
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| 17:58.49 | dury | once again I'm doing my best to solve the installation of my inboard webcam in my Lenovo Y500 |
| 17:59.25 | johnfg_ | mtn: And then the system will see grub there, and I'll get a full boot screen? |
| 17:59.49 | mtn | johnfg_: yes |
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| 18:00.13 | mtn | johnfg_: make sure your boot order is to boot sda first, of course |
| 18:00.41 | johnfg_ | Do I need to do a grub-mkconfig first? |
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| 18:01.08 | mtn | johnfg_: did you make changes to your grub configs? |
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| 18:01.33 | dury | linuxuz3r: hi there how is it going? |
| 18:02.07 | dury | dmesg | grep Lenovo |
| 18:02.07 | dury | [ 4.047297] usb 4-1: Product: Lenovo EasyCamera |
| 18:02.07 | dury | [ 10.589847] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Lenovo EasyCamera (0bda:58dd) |
| 18:02.07 | dury | [ 10.598271] input: Lenovo EasyCamera as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb4/4-1/4-1:1.0/input/input14 |
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| 18:02.45 | TonyStylo | ctmjr, theres nothing in saved session. please look http://i.imgur.com/4JqT5qD.png |
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| 18:03.02 | johnfg_ | "I" didn't, and don't. But lately, with certain upgrades, the grub.cfg is overwritten, not seeing the other os's, and I have to run 'grub-mkconfig', then 'update-grub', and then I'm back in business. |
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| 18:03.39 | mtn | johnfg_: well, it won't hurt anything to run it |
| 18:03.40 | dury | hi there channel :-) sorry to paste all that :-( |
| 18:03.48 | TonyStylo | everytime i shut down I close everything, but averytime I start wheeezy, Iceweasel start automatically |
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| 18:05.35 | ctmjr | TonyStylo: close everything then save session then restart if iceweasel starts again then you might have a bug |
| 18:05.39 | johnfg_ | mtn: When I run grub-install /dev/sda, where does that install grub.cfg? |
| 18:05.51 | mtn | johnfg_: to the mbr of sda |
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| 18:06.11 | mtn | johnfg_: oh wait. no, not the grub.cfg. doesn't put it anywhere |
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| 18:06.48 | TonyStylo | ok let me try.. |
| 18:06.51 | dury | http://paste.debian.net/102434/ |
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| 18:06.58 | johnfg_ | But it looks to /boot/grub/grub.cfg on /dev/sda2 (for me), right? |
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| 18:07.50 | mtn | johnfg_: if you run grub-install from sda2, then it will use the grub.cfg on sda2 to write to the mbr |
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| 18:08.48 | johnfg_ | mtn: K, thanks for the help. I'm gonna boot and see if it's working (or try to boot). |
| 18:09.00 | mtn | johnfg_: good luck |
| 18:09.00 | Guest84328 | . |
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| 18:09.23 | dury | is there someone that can help me please? |
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| 18:11.22 | TonyStylo | Iceweasel is not started now after that I've saved the session, seems everything ok. Do you advice me to check something else? |
| 18:12.12 | ctmjr | TonyStylo: no you should be good to go now |
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| 18:14.33 | TonyStylo | ctmjr, thanks |
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| 18:15.21 | ctmjr | yw |
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| 18:17.51 | dury | I've tried to launch cheese but not success :-( |
| 18:18.09 | mr_foobar | Hi, I hope this is appropriate here but I just set up a mail server using this guide http://www.xenlens.com/debian-wheezy-mail-server-postfix-dovecot-sasl-mysql-postfixadmin-roundcube-spamassassin-clamav-greylist-nginx-php5/ and now sending email from the server works, but if you send mail to the server it appereantly never arrives. I don't any error messages. |
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| 18:18.54 | mr_foobar | Can you give me some hints how to debug that? |
| 18:19.41 | TonyStylo | I can't click simply tapping on the mousepad, is this a feature just of xfce or is wheezy to have this problem? |
| 18:19.44 | formorer | it the log has really nothing the mail probably really never arrived. Did you tried to submit the mail by hand via telnet/swaks? |
| 18:19.50 | formorer | s/it/if/ |
| 18:20.29 | digilink | hi, running wheezy x64... need to execute a simple script at boot time, but don't want to build an init script that is LSB compliant etc, is there any other way to tackle this? I thought about cron and/or bootmisc.sh as well... |
| 18:21.50 | Trolloc | I'm hoping someone can help me troubleshoot this issue I have been running into. I have made a LiveUSB with debian7.4 amd64 imaged to it and I am trying to get the drivers for a TP-Link TL-WN721N all up and running on it (so i can use this device and not have to rely on the local computer wireless NIC being compatable). I have installed firmware-atheros, i have confirmed that it shows up in lsusb and that the module is loaded |
| 18:22.19 | jhutchins | digilink: rc.local |
| 18:22.37 | mr_foobar | formorer: I telneted to port 25 and entered an email from test@test.com. but I can't see that it arrived in any client |
| 18:22.43 | digilink | AHhhh.... that's right... I had forgotten about that! thanks :) |
| 18:22.50 | dury | Error starting streaming on device '/dev/video0' |
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| 18:23.16 | formorer | mr_foobar: from my experience with postfix I can't believe there is nothing in the logs. |
| 18:23.35 | Trolloc | @jhutchins, was that in response to my question? |
| 18:23.43 | dury | that's after launching cheese :-( |
| 18:24.01 | Mousey | someone say cheese? |
| 18:24.03 | jhutchins | mr_foobar: Is it possible you are connecting to a different server? If the server acknowledged your helo/ehlo it will be in the log. |
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| 18:24.50 | jhutchins | dury: dmesg | grep video |
| 18:25.00 | ompaul | mr_foobar: /var/log/mail.log tells you nothing? |
| 18:25.11 | mr_foobar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.29 | ompaul | mr_foobar: use the debian one - no spam in there |
| 18:25.45 | dury | jhutchins: thanks for answer hang on |
| 18:26.12 | mr_foobar | ompaul: There is a debian pastebin? |
| 18:26.22 | mr_foobar | ompaul: oh yes |
| 18:26.34 | mtn | http://paste.debian.net |
| 18:26.35 | ompaul | mr_foobar: there is http://paste.debian.net but anyway ;-) seems you found it |
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| 18:26.59 | mr_foobar | here it is http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bf72b25a/ |
| 18:27.35 | formorer | the lines are not complete |
| 18:27.46 | mr_foobar | oh, sorry |
| 18:27.48 | ompaul | mr_foobar: there are large chunks of missing data |
| 18:27.54 | ompaul | and stuff maybe we shouldn't be seeing |
| 18:28.01 | formorer | and you should fix the warning |
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| 18:28.29 | dury | jhutchins: http://paste.debian.net/102438/ |
| 18:28.33 | ompaul | before you do anything else - google the warning you have it in two places |
| 18:28.37 | mr_foobar | ok |
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| 18:29.24 | mr_foobar | is there anything in the log that compromises my security now? |
| 18:29.37 | ompaul | not security |
| 18:29.44 | ompaul | just gives out your username |
| 18:29.47 | ompaul | and domain |
| 18:29.55 | ompaul | that are you using dovecot |
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| 18:30.06 | mr_foobar | ok that's all easy to guess anyways |
| 18:30.08 | mr_foobar | btw the warning is: warning: do not list domain saschaheylik.com in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains |
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| 18:30.49 | ompaul | so having chosen one and restarted postfix |
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| 18:31.02 | dury | jhutchins: what do you think what's going on with all that? |
| 18:31.16 | ompaul | mr_foobar: you should try to mailyourself at your gmail account |
| 18:31.19 | formorer | ompaul: hopefully virtual_mailbox_domains |
| 18:31.44 | ompaul | assuming there is a gmail account somewhere for testing |
| 18:32.02 | mr_foobar | so I should remove my domain from mydestination? |
| 18:32.12 | mr_foobar | or from virtual.. ? |
| 18:32.23 | ompaul | are you doing several virtual email domains |
| 18:32.52 | mr_foobar | yes I want to send/receive email form multiple domain names |
| 18:33.05 | formorer | let me guess: if you look into /var/spool/mail/<youuser you will find your missing mail |
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| 18:33.41 | mr_foobar | formorer: yes |
| 18:33.53 | ompaul | mr_foobar: then read this http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html |
| 18:34.06 | formorer | so we know the root of your problem |
| 18:34.24 | formorer | remove the domain from mydestinations |
| 18:34.29 | dury | jhutchins: current driver not working.... geesssss how to... |
| 18:34.48 | TonyStylo | I can't click simply tapping on the mousepad, is this a feature just of xfce or is wheezy to have this problem? |
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| 18:36.02 | mr_foobar | formorer: I removed everything from mydestination = but it doesn't change the behaviour. I am still reading the page |
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| 18:38.26 | mr_foobar | I have to take a break and eat dinner. Thank you for your advice so far, I'll come back in a bit. |
| 18:39.27 | dury | jhutchins: busy? |
| 18:39.28 | Trolloc | now that foobars question is on break, did anyone have a chance to read my question? i will repost if required |
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| 18:42.36 | Trolloc | sorry for the spam, but here is my question one more time before i dive back into google. |
| 18:42.52 | Trolloc | I'm hoping someone can help me troubleshoot this issue I have been running into. I have made a LiveUSB with debian7.4 amd64 imaged to it and I am trying to get the drivers for a TP-Link TL-WN721N all up and running on it (so i can use this device and not have to rely on the local computer wireless NIC being compatable). I have installed firmware-atheros, i have confirmed that it shows up in lsusb and that the module is loaded |
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| 18:47.12 | jhutchins | Trolloc: You have not asked any question or stated any problem. |
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| 18:49.05 | jhutchins | dury: Sorry, real life. |
| 18:49.30 | jhutchins | dury: ls -l /dev/video0 (I think that was it.) WHo has permissions? |
| 18:49.42 | Trolloc | jhutchins: sorry i thought i did |
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| 18:50.15 | mr_foobar | I am back |
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| 18:50.26 | Trolloc | jhutchins: I'm hoping someone can help me troubleshoot this issue I have been running into. I have made a LiveUSB with debian7.4 amd64 imaged to it and I am trying to get the drivers for a TP-Link TL-WN721N all up and running on it (so i can use this device and not have to rely on the local computer wireless NIC being compatable). I have installed firmware-atheros, i have confirmed |
| 18:50.32 | Trolloc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.39 | Trolloc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.39 | dury | jhutchins: right |
| 18:51.00 | dury | jhutchins: crw-rw---T+ 1 root video 81, 0 May 29 11:06 /dev/video0 |
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| 18:51.39 | dury | jhutchins: tell me what to type which commands.... |
| 18:51.44 | jhutchins | dury: So nobody except root has access. |
| 18:52.05 | jhutchins | dury: Is there another video device? Maybe with a different group? |
| 18:52.26 | jhutchins | Trolloc: You should see it if you do ifconfig -a |
| 18:52.26 | dury | jhutchins: I don't know |
| 18:52.39 | Guest17098 | test, please ignore |
| 18:52.44 | dury | no other video device |
| 18:52.47 | jhutchins | dury: ls -l /dev/ |
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| 18:52.58 | dury | jhutchins: hang on |
| 18:53.40 | jhutchins | dury: You might find something at http://wiki.debian.org/Webcam that would help. |
| 18:53.54 | jhutchins | dury: I'm not sure what the "Debian Way" to get this working would be. |
| 18:54.20 | jhutchins | dury: The permissions are probably what's keeping it from working though. |
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| 18:54.43 | Trolloc | jhutchins: it doesn't appear. all i see is eth4(my lan connection) and lo |
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| 18:55.15 | jhutchins | ,pciid 0bda:58dd |
| 18:55.16 | judd | [0bda:58dd] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0bda:58dd |
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| 18:55.29 | jhutchins | Hrmn... |
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| 18:55.46 | jhutchins | Yet it is identified correctly by the system in dmesg... |
| 18:55.59 | jhutchins | D'oh, usb. |
| 18:56.06 | dury | jhutchins: http://paste.debian.net/102443/ |
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| 18:59.34 | jhutchins | !uvcvideo |
| 18:59.35 | dpkg | uvcvideo is the Linux USB Video Class (UVC) driver, part of the Linux kernel (since Linux 2.6.26). Supported devices are listed at http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/#devices . For support of Ricoh R5U87x webcams, ask me about <r5u87x>. See also <gspca>, <webcam>. |
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| 19:01.34 | Trolloc | so in summary 1.it shows in lsusb 2.i can install the firmware on both the debian liveusb and debian hdd 3.the wifi stick only works on the debian hdd |
| 19:02.46 | jhutchins | Trolloc: Then there's somethng not working. Does it need firmware? Does it get detected in dmesg? |
| 19:03.12 | jhutchins | Trolloc: if ifconfig -a doesn't show it, the system doesn't know it's a NIC. |
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| 19:06.17 | dury | jhutchins: gesssss.... :-( |
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| 19:06.33 | dury | how to :-( |
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| 19:07.08 | dury | can someone drive me, please to solve it? |
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| 19:08.51 | dury | jhutchins, says it's about permissions how can |
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| 19:10.30 | dury | I did launch cheese as root :-( the same problem |
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| 19:15.34 | dury | gesss it's getting late... be back in other time cheeers :-) |
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| 19:17.21 | TonyStylo | I can't click simply tapping on the mousepad, is this a feature just of xfce or is wheezy to have this problem? |
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| 19:21.18 | mr_foobar | Alright, so now I got rid of the duplicate domain warning and I am getting "(connect to mydomain.com[private/dovecot-lmtp]: No such file or directory" |
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| 19:23.45 | mr_foobar | I don't know why it doesn't exist because I did install dovecot-lmtpd |
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| 19:25.19 | jhutchins | mr_foobar: Is it running? |
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| 19:25.42 | jhutchins | mr_foobar: Some daemons don't tell you if there's a problem with a config file, they just don't start. |
| 19:26.08 | mr_foobar | jhutchins: "dovecot" is running. Is that the same service? |
| 19:26.13 | jmcnaught | TonyStylo: I'm pretty sure tap to click is in the xfce mouse settings dialog, but i can't check because i don't have it installed |
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| 19:26.35 | mr_foobar | jhutchins: and it seems to run |
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| 19:26.49 | mr_foobar | "[ ok ] dovecot is running." |
| 19:27.17 | hosti | witam wszystkich, mógłbym prosić Was o pomoc lub nakierowanie odnośnie init.d w debian 6? |
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| 19:27.31 | jhutchins | !pl |
| 19:27.31 | dpkg | Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>. |
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| 19:28.17 | jhutchins | mr_foobar: /var/log/mail.log - is it unhappy? |
| 19:28.27 | hosti | ok , so i try to speak eng |
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| 19:28.34 | jhutchins | mr_foobar: What about pop or imap? |
| 19:28.44 | hosti | can you help my about init.d in debian 6? |
| 19:29.00 | wols | !tell hosti about ask |
| 19:29.16 | hosti | i try to add on startup on my debian one commend |
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| 19:29.48 | mr_foobar | jhutchins: IMAP should be working because I can connect with an email client. The only thing that sticks out in the log is the status=deferred (connect... |
| 19:30.14 | m3tti | why is everybody so upset with gnome 3 i like it it works well and looks awesome |
| 19:30.21 | hosti | apf -n 195.xxx.xxx.xxx -p 220022 -m another_port ect |
| 19:30.43 | formorer | rvdv: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PostfixDovecotLMTP |
| 19:30.51 | formorer | eh mr_foobar |
| 19:31.01 | hosti | but i can't find what i must do |
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| 19:31.42 | hosti | whot i found, i know in path /etc/ini.d |
| 19:31.49 | hosti | i must make a file |
| 19:32.07 | hosti | nano apf |
| 19:32.15 | jmcnaught | hosti: if it's just a single command you could put it in /etc/rc.local |
| 19:32.22 | hosti | and then i copy mu command? |
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| 19:34.01 | hosti | jmcnaught: on start must by #!/bin/sh -e ? |
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| 19:34.15 | hosti | jmcnaught: on this file? |
| 19:34.54 | jhutchins | hosti: rc.local is easiest. If you're going to build an initscript, you need to look at /etc/init.d/README and /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 19:35.36 | jhutchins | hosti: What is the command? If it's a single command in rc.local, just give the full path to the command and any options/parameters. |
| 19:35.37 | Trolloc | jhutchins: so dmesg was spitting out an error -22. i decided to use a different laptop(same model laptop) and see if there are any errors, it worked... so now the only difference is that the laptop that is having problems also has a logitech wireless mouse attached. i removed the mouse, hooked back up to that laptop and boom it works. that was annoying to deal with, thank you for your assistance. |
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| 19:36.24 | jhutchins | Trolloc: Glad you got it figured out. Strange the the wireless mouse should cause problems. It might work on different ports. |
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| 19:37.00 | hosti | jhutchins: this is my command: apf -n 195.xxx.xxx.xxx -p 220022 -m another_port ect |
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| 19:38.08 | Trolloc | jhutchins: i have been swapping the devices around and everything works until i plugin the mouse, then wifi goes poof. i need to reseed the wifi stick for it to come back online |
| 19:38.21 | bakaneko | how do I get an image of the dependency tree of all the packages? |
| 19:38.27 | mr_foobar | formorer: turns out that I had "unix_listener lmtp" instead of "unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp" in my dovecot config. Now it works. Thank you and everyone else who helped me :) |
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| 19:41.26 | qman__ | I got the copy of that server made and attempted the upgrade again, its stuck unable to upgrade slapd: http://paste.debian.net/102453/ |
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| 19:43.22 | TonyStylo | No there's nothing in xfce about tap on the mousepad |
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| 19:44.02 | autrilla | From here, what should I get for a new install? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
| 19:44.11 | autrilla | Can I have everything on just one USB drive? |
| 19:44.18 | autrilla | (it's big enough) |
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| 19:45.22 | wols | autrilla: no.you can download all dvds but it's a bad idea |
| 19:45.43 | autrilla | What should I do then, wols? |
| 19:45.52 | wols | all you need is the normal DVD-1, but CD1 would be fine too and you'd download a lot less |
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| 19:46.25 | wols | the only reason to get all DVDs is when you go to the amazonas or a tropical island without any internet connection |
| 19:46.30 | autrilla | wols, also, the internet connection where I'm going to install it is slow. Awfully slow |
| 19:46.41 | autrilla | .5Mb/s or so |
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| 19:48.20 | kolol | Hello. I am using Debian stable on a Thinkpad T400 and X broke. I suspect its because I installed proprietary ATI GPU drivers, but last time I shut down or rebooted my computer was around 23 days ago. I wondered if someone could help me, I'd be really happy. |
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| 19:48.57 | autrilla | wols, it's going to be for coding basic stuff, maybe IntelliJ IDEA for Android and the Arduino IDE at some point. Most of the time it'll be just for SSHing to a server and doing stuff there |
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| 19:49.21 | acu | does anyone knows why you cannot shutdown jessie in gnome (you need to go to cli as root to do so), but gnome logout or shutdown does not work |
| 19:49.40 | wols | kolol: is it a T400 with intel and amd videocard? which one do you want to use? how did you install fglrx? |
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| 19:50.36 | kolol | It is intel processor with AMD ATI videocard. The GPU I assume can only use ATI drivers. I installed it with APT |
| 19:50.40 | kolol | I just uninstalled it |
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| 19:50.50 | kolol | So I think I need to install the free ones |
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| 19:52.30 | kolol | What do you suggest to do? |
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| 19:53.44 | elichai2 | got a big problem: |
| 19:53.46 | elichai2 | all the programs says they can't write to disk |
| 19:53.53 | elichai2 | and one programs yelled "I/O error" |
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| 19:54.05 | elichai2 | but i can't find it in dmesg/"/var/log/messges" |
| 19:54.34 | elichai2 | *messages |
| 19:54.40 | elichai2 | the only thing about I/O except: [ 0.103884] ACPI : EC: GPE = 0x17, I/O: command/status = 0x66, data = 0x62 |
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| 19:54.50 | elichai2 | *nothing about I/O |
| 19:55.08 | wols | elichai2: dmesg | tail -10 |
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| 19:55.32 | wols | kolol: you already have the free ones installed. if you created a xorg.conf, delete it |
| 19:55.49 | elichai2 | http://paste.debian.net/102454/ |
| 19:55.54 | kolol | Is that safe to do? |
| 19:56.00 | wols | kolol: and the T400 doesn't exist with only a ati videocard. it ALWAYS has a intel videocard and possible an additional ATI one |
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| 19:56.32 | kolol | Sorry for the silly question,, but where is this file? |
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| 19:56.58 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.10 | TonyStylo | I found some help online, XFCE doesn't support touchpad tapping so it needs to do edit a file. here http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=103644 it says to copy that code. i have opened the systemfile /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf in the text GUI, where should I copy the code now? On the top or on the bottom of the other lines there are in it yet? |
| 19:57.48 | wols | elichai2: doens't look like a I/O error. what is the exact error message? |
| 19:58.26 | kolol | It says there is no such file |
| 19:58.29 | elichai2 | wols: i couldn't get that error in terminal, so no exact error message |
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| 19:58.48 | wols | you read the error. what did it say? |
| 19:58.54 | elichai2 | one program(qBittorrent) yalled "I/O error" and another(Eclipse) said "Write error" |
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| 20:00.19 | rmarra | Hello, Everybody. |
| 20:00.20 | rmarra | I'm trying to install libvirt for I virtualize a windows machine through KVM but i'm getting some troubles.. |
| 20:01.33 | rmarra | Here is the output from terminal |
| 20:01.33 | rmarra | http://paste.debian.net/102455/ |
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| 20:02.24 | kolol | wols: I don't have the file you said, but i do have xorg.conf.d, should I delete that? |
| 20:03.44 | elichai2 | wols: any ideas? |
| 20:04.11 | ctmjr | TonyStylo: if it was me i would add it to the bottom and see what happens i would also make a backup of it cp /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf.orig that way you can just copy the file back if it breaks anything |
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| 20:06.59 | TonyStylo | ctmjr, thanks. yes I have done a backup but in case of a break I suppose I not even can point the cursor to open that file :D |
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| 20:09.30 | rmarra | I'm trying to install libvirt for I virtualize a windows machine through KVM but i'm getting some troubles |
| 20:09.30 | rmarra | http://paste.debian.net/102455/ |
| 20:10.02 | kolol | so should i delete xorg.conf.d? |
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| 20:10.39 | elichai2 | wols: maybe even a tool to run HD test? |
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| 20:11.47 | jmcnaught | kolol: xorg.conf.d is a directory, is there anything in it? |
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| 20:12.11 | kolol | nothing |
| 20:12.20 | kolol | :( |
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| 20:13.35 | kolol | Anything I could check that would help? |
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| 20:13.54 | elichai2 | wols: maybe even a tool to run HD test? |
| 20:14.45 | kolol | Should I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
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| 20:15.30 | jmcnaught | kolol: have you checked out https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo ? |
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| 20:16.07 | atrapado | elichai2, maybe: apt-get install smartmontools ; smartctl -a /dev/sda |
| 20:17.00 | kolol | Yeah but it didn't help too much |
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| 20:17.23 | elichai2 | lololololololololol i am the dumbest person on earth! |
| 20:17.30 | elichai2 | if i would just read the error i could see the "No space" message :( |
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| 20:18.05 | elichai2 | any safe methods to change a size of an encrypted LUKS partition? |
| 20:19.32 | kolol | ? |
| 20:19.43 | jmcnaught | kolol: what is output of "lspci -nn | grep VGA" ? |
| 20:20.40 | kolol | Mobility Radeon HD 3400 |
| 20:23.06 | jmcnaught | kolol: and so right now you have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and rebooting did not solve the issue? Were there any other lines from that command? |
| 20:23.21 | rmarra | I'm trying to install libvirt for I virtualize a windows machine through KVM but i'm getting some troubles |
| 20:23.21 | rmarra | http://paste.debian.net/102455. Can anyone help me? |
| 20:23.32 | kolol | yes |
| 20:23.36 | kolol | let me copy it |
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| 20:25.18 | elichai2 | looking for a safe way to resize encrypted LUKS partition |
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| 20:25.31 | kolol | 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300] AMD nee ATI RV620 Mobility Radeon HD 3400 series 1002:95c4 |
| 20:25.46 | kolol | thats what it says |
| 20:26.55 | jmcnaught | kolol: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any errors? |
| 20:27.15 | jmcnaught | rmarra: i've looked at your paste and use libvirt myself.. not sure what's happening there |
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| 20:27.59 | kolol | What should I search for? |
| 20:28.04 | kolol | It's a long file |
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| 20:29.05 | kolol | but I do recognize some stuff that was at boot |
| 20:29.48 | rmarra | jmcnaught: In my var/log/messager is showing that kernel: [ 169.643449] libvirtd[5622] general protection ip:7fa3aa3f9ac9 sp:7fffafb16510 error:0 in libc-2.13.so[7fa3aa37e000+182000] |
| 20:31.33 | kolol | So I can't just make a nw xorg.conf file? |
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| 20:32.14 | doublehp_ | where is stored the install device for grub ? |
| 20:32.18 | jmcnaught | kolol: you could try that. usually you don't need one and X just autoconfigures itself |
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| 20:33.28 | kolol | Should I reboot now? |
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| 20:35.28 | jmcnaught | rmarra: are you able to restart libvirt with "service libvirt-bin restart" ? |
| 20:35.49 | jmcnaught | kolol: did you change something? have you reboot at all yet? |
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| 20:36.34 | kolol | I did this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 20:37.12 | jmcnaught | rmarra: also have you checked for anything interesting in /var/log/libvirt ? |
| 20:37.17 | elichai2 | looking for someone with LUKS experience |
| 20:37.31 | rmarra | jmcnaught: I've tried, I get this: http://paste.debian.net/102462/ |
| 20:37.38 | jmcnaught | kolol: instead of rebooting it might be enough to "service gdm3 restart" (assuming you use gdm3/gnome) |
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| 20:38.05 | BilboLaggins | Hi im using priorities on unstable/testing packages and set them to 100/800 in that order |
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| 20:38.20 | BilboLaggins | but... still at apt-get upgrade there are some unstable packages to install |
| 20:38.31 | BilboLaggins | should I use a lower priority number? |
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| 20:40.12 | m0rd3cai | Alright guys, I've messed up, I fear. I was trying to change root password using 'usermod'. I issued usermod -p password thinking that would change pwd but it didnt. now old password doesnt work. |
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| 20:40.26 | m0rd3cai | I dont want to reboot for fear im locked out of root account. |
| 20:40.47 | kolol | It still doesnt work |
| 20:40.48 | m0rd3cai | *new pwd doesnt work either |
| 20:40.52 | kolol | :( |
| 20:41.34 | LtL | m0rd3cai: do you have root at the moment |
| 20:41.43 | kolol | by the way there is some message when booting that repeats itself a lot it says something like alsda1: could not control (and some number) |
| 20:41.55 | wols | kolol: pastebin your Xorg.0.log |
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| 20:42.49 | kolol | How? |
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| 20:43.06 | kolol | How can I send the file from my laptop to my computer here? |
| 20:43.26 | kolol | by the way the xorg.conf file was not created for some reason |
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| 20:44.00 | formorer | xorg configuration files are usually not needed anymore |
| 20:44.09 | wols | kolol: it's only created if you create it. and it's probably one of the reasons why fglrx didn't work as intended |
| 20:44.16 | wols | !tell kolol about nopaste |
| 20:44.29 | wols | formorer: they are needed for proprietary drivers |
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| 20:45.12 | m0rd3cai | LtL: no, Im currently trying to su in |
| 20:45.53 | wols | m0rd3cai: when you ran usermod, you were root no? so no rootshell left over from that? |
| 20:45.58 | jmcnaught | rmarra: not sure which file it's complaining about not existing in your last paste :/ |
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| 20:46.29 | rmarra | jmcnaught: My debian is too crazy |
| 20:46.52 | jmcnaught | rmarra: how so? mixing releases or something? |
| 20:46.53 | m0rd3cai | wols: no, unfortunately i closed the terminal before i checked the password |
| 20:47.05 | wols | m0rd3cai: then you need to reboot |
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| 20:47.06 | m0rd3cai | Yes i was in root |
| 20:47.19 | m0rd3cai | just for curiousity what will that do? |
| 20:47.25 | wols | and do e.g. init=/bin/bash as a shell |
| 20:47.45 | m0rd3cai | and do? |
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| 20:48.23 | wols | !tell m0rd3cai about i forgot root's password |
| 20:48.29 | kolol | here it is: pastie.org/9236224 |
| 20:48.36 | kyle__ | So, I think my gnome-shell just crashed. All my windows are open, but I can't interact with them. Is there a way to make one WM take over for another mid session, so I can at least cleanly close out my work before killing my session? |
| 20:49.16 | wols | kolol: looks like it's running fine |
| 20:49.27 | kolol | Really? |
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| 20:49.36 | kolol | Then what could it be? |
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| 20:52.17 | HellTiger | hello. i have a root server and got a domain for it. i was able to point the domain via apache2 virtual hosts to the right www sub path. now i would need a sub domain to point to a other ip. will i do this also via apache or with some etc/hosts stuff or bind or dns? its rly hard to google. |
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| 20:54.17 | wols | HellTiger: another vhost, but you also need to make the DNS name of this subdomain point do your IP |
| 20:54.27 | m0rd3cai | wols: when im fsck the FS, is there a certain fsck command to issue? |
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| 20:54.42 | m0rd3cai | dpkg didnt tell me that, just to fsck the file system |
| 20:54.42 | dpkg | m0rd3cai: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 20:54.55 | wols | m0rd3cai: yes. and it depends on your installation which is why we cannot tell you |
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| 20:55.11 | m0rd3cai | thanks |
| 20:55.15 | HellTiger | wols: what do i need to read to make the dns name |
| 20:55.16 | wols | tho normally it shouldn't be needed |
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| 20:56.02 | wols | HellTiger: you tell your DNS provider about it. not a debian problem |
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| 20:59.42 | kolol | wols: is there a possility that the free drivers aren't installed? |
| 20:59.56 | wols | kolol: no |
| 21:00.17 | kolol | Oh man. Then what should i do? |
| 21:00.19 | wols | kolol: you have disabled the intel GPU in BIOS? |
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| 21:00.37 | kolol | I really doubt I ever did anything like that |
| 21:00.51 | kolol | I would say no |
| 21:01.14 | wols | what happens if you run "startx" from the console? |
| 21:01.57 | kolol | a sec it's booting (for some reason it's taking very long) |
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| 21:02.26 | kolol | but it went into some weird GUI thing in which you couldn't do anything |
| 21:02.36 | kolol | and sometimes it just printed an error message |
| 21:02.53 | kolol | it depended in what version of debian you chose on GRUB |
| 21:03.20 | wols | what versions of debian? |
| 21:04.32 | kolol | I don't know when booting you can chose between normal, recovery, and versions |
| 21:05.04 | kolol | like 3.14-bpo |
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| 21:05.18 | kolol | 3.14-bpo recovery |
| 21:05.21 | kolol | 3.2 |
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| 21:05.25 | kolol | 3.2 recovery |
| 21:05.26 | kolol | etc |
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| 21:06.05 | wols | you run the normal 3.14-bpo kernel and then run startx. either you get a GUI or you get an error |
| 21:06.48 | kolol | now none of them seem to be able to boot |
| 21:07.25 | wols | what is the last text you see? |
| 21:07.33 | kolol | booting the kernel |
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| 21:09.27 | kolol | Did I screw for big? |
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| 21:10.45 | jmcnaught | kolol: it's hard to tell because we don't know what you've done :) |
| 21:11.12 | kolol | but I don't understand... |
| 21:11.20 | kolol | what could have I done? |
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| 21:11.35 | jmcnaught | you'd have to tell us |
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| 21:12.12 | kolol | But I think I only did what you guys told me to |
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| 21:12.51 | jmcnaught | kolol: does the 3.2 kernel still boot? |
| 21:13.01 | kolol | yeah |
| 21:13.07 | kolol | and it hasn't done it yet |
| 21:13.16 | jmcnaught | done what? |
| 21:13.24 | kolol | move on |
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| 21:13.49 | jmcnaught | 3.2 kernel hasn't finished booting? |
| 21:13.59 | kolol | yeah |
| 21:14.18 | kolol | my computer could get to log in in around 15 seconds |
| 21:14.24 | kolol | so I don't know what happened |
| 21:14.45 | jmcnaught | when it finishes booting, try running "startx" like wols suggested and tell us what the error is (if it doesn't start X) |
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| 21:14.56 | kolol | Is it too late to just install Debian again with a new CD and keep my data? |
| 21:15.04 | kolol | ok I'll try that |
| 21:15.29 | jmcnaught | kolol: if you're going to reinstall, always do a backup. |
| 21:15.53 | kolol | I don't have a HDD large enough to do that |
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| 21:17.17 | jmcnaught | kolol: borrow one? burn to dvd? if your /home is on a separate partition or volume then you can theoretically reinstall debian without losing your data. But it's pretty foolhardy to attempt without a backup |
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| 21:21.07 | jmcnaught | kolol: i've got to get going, but i'll probably be around later if you're still working on this. Also try to be more specific about what's happening on your computer.. it's really hard for us to know what phrases like "move on" mean. Good luck! :) |
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| 21:21.35 | kolol | ok thanks |
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| 21:25.17 | kolol | It is still booting |
| 21:25.29 | kolol | Well I am going to sleep now |
| 21:25.32 | kolol | good night |
| 21:25.40 | kolol | I'll be back tomorrow |
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| 21:29.19 | emacer | I'm trying to package up some cross compilers, each into a separate deb package, and some related tools/example code/etc into another deb package. I want the tools/etc. to depend on ANY ONE OR MORE of the cross compiler packages, so that it can be installed so long as at least one of the cross compiler packages is installed. Does anyone know how I can structure my packages to meet this need? |
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| 21:37.42 | he25 | hi |
| 21:37.47 | he25 | how do i change my dynamic ip? |
| 21:38.00 | he25 | im banned from #ubuntu need to evade, thanks yall |
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| 21:39.27 | br1ckd | What's the best way to set the default route dev that will persist across reboots? I have 2 NICs, the default route is always on eth0 but I want it on eth1 |
| 21:40.01 | emacer | br1ckd, man /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 21:40.40 | br1ckd | thanks |
| 21:41.04 | emacer | np |
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| 21:45.24 | TonyStylo | guys I need an advice, I use Wheezy but I would like to try Jessy, I have read that this testing version is not stable like Wheezy. What real problems I could find using it? |
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| 21:45.58 | centrx | It might not work as expected |
| 21:46.10 | centrx | You may need to fix something |
| 21:46.12 | qman__ | TonyStylo: literally anything |
| 21:46.56 | centrx | Not anything. Obvious bugs that aren't system- or configuration-specific are not in testing. |
| 21:47.02 | centrx | Obvious serious bugs |
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| 21:48.29 | TonyStylo | I see... are you talking about security issues as well? |
| 21:49.02 | centrx | Security updates are often delayed compared to stable and unstable |
| 21:49.16 | centrx | This is less of a problem on a desktop system |
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| 21:50.05 | centrx | Faster security updates can be obtained by getting the updated package from unstable |
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| 21:50.54 | TonyStylo | then unstable is more secure than testing? |
| 21:51.08 | centrx | Yes |
| 21:52.06 | alkmist | no |
| 21:52.14 | A|an | But it's inadvisable to be running wheezy and get "testing" security updates? |
| 21:52.29 | A|an | (or is that even possible?) |
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| 21:53.04 | alkmist | il team sicurezza è concentrato sulla versione stabile |
| 21:53.04 | alkmist | the security team is focused on the stable version |
| 21:53.23 | alkmist | the security team is focused on the stable version |
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| 21:53.52 | br1ckd | emacer: Do you know how the interfaces file can set the default route? As far as I can tell I'll have to use the script hooks it provides since it doesn't handle routes directly |
| 21:53.53 | A|an | (I meant unstable) |
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| 21:55.48 | he25 | hello |
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| 21:55.56 | he25 | can someone help me? |
| 21:56.04 | he25 | i need to change IP because the ubuntu fags wont unban me |
| 21:56.13 | br1ckd | he25: what distro are you using |
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| 21:56.19 | he25 | im on debian |
| 21:56.48 | he25 | on windows i used to stop and start DHCP Client after stopping/starting internet |
| 21:56.52 | he25 | how do i do that on debian |
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| 21:57.23 | Extensa5630G | basically i want to set a PXE server so that i can boot a debian wheezy iso in that desktop from my network-boot-able laptop,I am confused about this thingy http://fai-project.org/ |
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| 21:59.11 | ctmjr | he25: nobody here is going to help you evade a ban |
| 21:59.30 | jason__ | Should I use open-source audio drivers, or proprietary (AMD?) |
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| 22:00.08 | bitblt | anyone work with preseeds? I'm passing ks=http://etc/mypreseed as a kernel opt, but it's not following it for some reason |
| 22:00.19 | Extensa5630G | jason__, surely the opensource onces, amd drivers always have issues in linux |
| 22:00.23 | Extensa5630G | jason__, like mine |
| 22:00.29 | Extensa5630G | *ones* |
| 22:00.34 | tlund | bitblt: ks=http://etc/mypreseed ?! |
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| 22:00.50 | bitblt | tlund, don't take that part literally ;) |
| 22:01.05 | jason__ | Ext...: do you know where I might obtain such drivers? I'm not even sure what I need. |
| 22:01.05 | tlund | bitblt: good, good :) |
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| 22:01.21 | bitblt | tlund, heh...just didn't see the reason to type out the full cobbler path |
| 22:01.33 | Extensa5630G | jason__, what drivers? |
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| 22:05.27 | jason__ | Ext: graphics |
| 22:05.48 | jason__ | It turns out that I was directed to the page containing them though |
| 22:05.54 | jason__ | Stupid me - hah |
| 22:05.56 | tfogal | hey all, i'm having an issue using dkms on a new stable install. my system compiler is gcc 4.7, but it seems the kernel was built with gcc-4.6. when i try compiling the nvidia driver, for instance, it uses the system compiler and thus bails out very quickly. |
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| 22:06.48 | KaaK_ | any one seen this from PPPd? http://paste.debian.net/102473/ |
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| 22:11.41 | aguitel | anyway to install chomium in squeeze ? |
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| 22:13.08 | centrx | aguitel, It has chromium version 6 in the package chromium-browser |
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| 22:31.30 | noobv3rn | tenta fazer assim para dar split no screen... '/window show 2' (onde 2 é o número do canal que c quer ir... hehehe)... |
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| 22:31.44 | noobv3rn | excuses! |
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| 22:32.04 | kisoku | hi. does anyone here have experience with reprepro and would be willing to answer some questions in private ? |
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| 22:42.27 | noobv3rn | kisoku: try this manual... http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/ |
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| 22:46.39 | kisoku | noobv3rn: that has literally nothing to do with reprepro |
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| 23:33.34 | GvP | hello I'm trying to upgrade from wheezy to jessie, I've dd'd the new netinstall.iso to the usb, but on restart I don't get the installation menu and can't find a way to force start on usb any tips? |
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| 23:35.46 | Artemis3 | GvP, have you ever boot anything from usb in that machine? |
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| 23:36.36 | GvP | well I did before, but that time it was OSX >> Wheezy and I'd set up some uefi booter menu for osx before doing that install |
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| 23:37.29 | Artemis3 | a mac? |
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| 23:37.41 | Artemis3 | someone more skilled should help you :) |
| 23:38.23 | GvP | yes a mbpro 13" ok well thanks for trying that was only a few days ago, so this is still mostly new to me except for playing a bit on a RPi |
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| 23:38.44 | Artemis3 | i don't have any so no idea how you boot from usb in one of those |
| 23:39.08 | bakaneko | Artemis3, unetbootin |
| 23:39.14 | Artemis3 | did you lose that wheezy install? you could just upgrade no? |
| 23:40.05 | GvP | it recommended a fresh one, I tried that once and broke some graphics stuff not positive which, so I have gotten better/faster at the wheezy install |
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| 23:41.03 | Artemis3 | hmm, can you repeat that wheezy method using mini.iso instead? |
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| 23:42.57 | GvP | and thanks, I'm looking into the unetbootin, so try the /daily-images/i386/daily/netboot/mini.iso ? |
| 23:43.13 | Artemis3 | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso |
| 23:43.18 | Artemis3 | thats 64bit no? |
| 23:43.41 | GvP | ah, yes you're right |
| 23:43.43 | Artemis3 | yes i mean stable main installer on purpose, it will ask you if you want jessie |
| 23:43.57 | Artemis3 | make sure you use expert (priority=low) |
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| 23:48.11 | fleish | hi all. I've got an identical pair of servers. both were running Debian Squeeze (2.6.32-5-amd64) on the dom0 and hosted at least 1 domU (2.6.32-5-xen-amd64) |
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| 23:48.19 | fleish | each dom0 runs a vrrp instance managed by keepalived on a bridged interface |
| 23:48.23 | fleish | 1 domU on each server also runs a vrrp instance managed by keepalived. on the dom0 that would traverse the xen vif interface -> bridge interface -> ethernet interface |
| 23:48.37 | fleish | since upgrading from squeeze to wheezy (3.2.0-4), the dom0 vrrp/keepalived functions just fine, but the domU keepalived advertisements only show up on the vif & bridge interfaces ... never see them on the ethernet interface - so they are never seen by the other node |
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| 23:54.28 | Lewoco | In aptitude, why does 'keeping' a package remove the auto flag from all the dependencies? Is there an easy workaround for this madness? |
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| 23:58.11 | Lewoco | Scratch that. It looks like the real problem is not 'keep' but that (aptitude --schedule-only markauto '~i') will remove the auto flag from any packages that are no longer needed. |
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