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| 00:01.06 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: I am indeed! |
| 00:01.49 | SameDay | So, you do 'grub2 install'.. and , what's the issue ? |
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| 00:10.14 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: paste.debian.net/102759 |
| 00:10.21 | NotJimCarrey | anyone know how to get nvidia drivers working? |
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| 00:10.54 | NotJimCarrey | X won't load, getting "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module" |
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| 00:13.04 | jmcnaught | NotJimCarrey: how did you install them? Are you following the instructions here: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or did you run some auto-installer from the Nvidia website? |
| 00:14.06 | cra1g321 | always best to do the debian way :) |
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| 00:14.45 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: paste your "fdisk -l" |
| 00:15.31 | NotJimCarrey | jmcnaught: nvidia-kernel-dkms/-driver/-alternative/etc are installed |
| 00:16.18 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: paste.debian.net/102760 |
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| 00:18.07 | jmcnaught | NotJimCarrey: and you rebooted after the install? did you notice any errors while it was installing those packages? |
| 00:18.34 | cra1g321 | did you also remember to create a new xorg config ? |
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| 00:19.31 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: you probably want to install add two partitions to your /dev/sda. While it's been a while since I installed grub, I recall it being pretty straight forward. your /dev/sda has not partitions set up, you should mkfs on the partition you will set up, i.e /dev/sda1, then try to grub-install on it. |
| 00:19.38 | NotJimCarrey | no errors, but just ran "modprobe nvidia-current" and it works |
| 00:19.47 | SameDay | Okay, I'm out for 30 minutes. |
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| 00:20.52 | cra1g321 | you need to create a new xorg config after installing the nvidia driver, https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#configure |
| 00:21.08 | cra1g321 | then you need to reboot, so the nouveau driver gets blacklisted and not loaded |
| 00:22.25 | NotJimCarrey | cra1g321: thanks, had new xorg.conf, but just haven't rebooted. nouveau not loaded though |
| 00:22.32 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: BTW, I think you gave up the idea of installing from USB to early, more T-shooting could have been done in that area, as well. |
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| 00:23.02 | cra1g321 | i would still reboot tbh |
| 00:23.47 | NotJimCarrey | drivers got hosed a while back, and i've been trying to fix them. so purged all existing ones, and removed leftovers from very old manual installs. |
| 00:23.59 | NotJimCarrey | just forgot to frakkin modprobe |
| 00:24.00 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
| 00:27.13 | average | justanotheruser1: I am not back from my meeting sorry. It is a prolongued meeting. I will get back to you when my meeting is finished. |
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| 00:27.37 | NotJimCarrey | great, steam still segfaults though :/ |
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| 00:29.52 | Damiox | Hi. I'm about to install Debian Jessie in my internal 24gb SSD. I want the swap in ssd so I can hibernate/resume asap. So, instead of 24gb, there would be 18gb available for the OS. My 500GB HDD would be at /home. I'm afraid I may run out of space in /. Thus, I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to go for a LVM strategy so if my SSD runs out of space, I might grab space from the HDD in someway |
| 00:29.52 | Damiox | (not sure how yet). But, I'm not sure if that LVM strategy is worth it and possible. I read about TRIM not working in LVM. Also, i'm not sure if using LVM with SSD would be ok or too-sophisticated for a laptop. Any recommendation? |
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| 00:32.23 | dondelelcaro | Damiox: I'd use LVM. It does support TRIM, and so does LUKS. |
| 00:32.38 | dondelelcaro | though a 24G SSD is *tinY* |
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| 00:33.08 | jmcnaught | Damiox: i use LVM on my laptop, but it just has an SSD and no HDD |
| 00:33.34 | jmcnaught | Damiox: did you figure out if you can boot from the SSD or not? |
| 00:34.34 | Damiox | jmcnaught: I read posts about that, there's a guy that says that disabling some stuff in the BIOS makes it work. Others say to put /boot in the HDD. I will have to cope that after the installation is done I guess |
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| 00:35.31 | Damiox | maybe I could enable the LVM for this setup to make sure I won't have space issues then? |
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| 00:36.40 | jmcnaught | Damiox: that's what I would do, but I'm just some guy on the internet :) I gotta say though, that it certainly seems like you've researched this a lot more than a lot of the people that come through here! |
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| 00:39.45 | Damiox | jmcnaught: I believe I should create a lvm vg with the SSD only, and let some space free in the HDD, so when the SSD runs out of space, I might grab space from the HDD by adding it to the vg. Not sure actually, I just learned today about LVM... |
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| 00:44.52 | jmcnaught | Damiox: i guess you could do it that way. I'm pretty sure you could also make a VG of both the SSD and HDD though. You can specify the PV that each LV should be on. But I'm not really an expert in these things. The best LVM documentation that I've found is the RHEL 6 LVM Administrator guide (mostly not RHEL specific... some stuff about rpms and clusters may not apply). It's got a very thorough overview of all the stuff you can do with LVM |
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| 00:47.26 | average | if someone uses i3 (or other tiling window managers). I'm trying to make a screencast but with screenkey, it only starts when you press a key, and is unpredictable in regards to the position/size of the window it opens to show you the keys you've typed |
| 00:47.40 | Damiox | jmcnaught: I'll check it out, thanks for all your help. I appretiate it |
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| 00:47.49 | average | is there a better application than screenkey to use for this, in order to have your keys printed on the screen while you type ? |
| 00:48.04 | jmcnaught | Damiox: on my desktop (which is currently waiting for replacement PSU) I have an SSD that is not in LVM which has /, then I have 3 HDDs in raid5 (with mdadm) and an LVM VG on top of that. I'm not really happy with that setup though, and plan on redoing it soon |
| 00:48.09 | average | or maybe there's a way with i3 to configure it to resize and position your window in floating mode.. |
| 00:49.07 | average | I think for_window can be used to create a hook for certain windows, but I've only seen it used with one action, either "floating enabled" or "resize 400px width" for example. For this to work, it would require 2 actions chained, "put in floating mode" and then "resize & position" |
| 00:50.30 | jmcnaught | Damiox: I'm planning on doing something more like this: SSD and one or two HDDS in a VG, and one or two HDDs in a second VG (for my libvirt VMs), and using LVM's raid LV types instead of raid5 for everything. But I need to replace my PSU before I can try it out (the magic smoke escaped) |
| 00:51.50 | NotJimCarrey | kinda confused on why apt-get is saying grub-common/grub2-common no longer required |
| 00:52.39 | jmcnaught | Damiox: anyways good luck and let me know if you cannot find that RHEL 6 LVM guide, i can probably dig up the link |
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| 00:53.07 | Damiox | jmcnaught: looks good, I think I need to understand the space assignement strategy in LVM. I don't want to use the HDD until the SSD gets full. I'm reading it through this one https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html-single/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/ |
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| 00:55.52 | jmcnaught | Damiox: yeah that's the one. ignore the stuff about clusters. Some LVM features aren't in Wheezy (like thin provisioning) but you probably don't need them and they probably work in Jessie. Also it might take you quite a while to fill 18G on / (depending on what you're doing of course) |
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| 00:56.32 | jmcnaught | NotJimCarrey: Wheezy? |
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| 00:57.42 | NotJimCarrey | jmcnaught: sid |
| 00:59.01 | NotJimCarrey | although just noticed they are the only two grub packages installed |
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| 01:00.04 | jmcnaught | NotJimCarrey: they might have a better idea of what's going on with that in #debian-next on irc.debian.org |
| 01:00.22 | DefV | this might be a dump question, but what issues would I have running a 32bit system with a 64bit kernel? |
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| 01:00.26 | DefV | dumb* |
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| 01:00.31 | NotJimCarrey | jmcnaught: thanks |
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| 01:02.18 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: Any luck (i'm back) |
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| 01:08.38 | JyZyXEL | who should i ask if i want changes to the configuration of kernel-image package? |
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| 01:11.53 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: this might help: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en |
| 01:12.20 | JyZyXEL | id rather have the changes made to the public package |
| 01:12.37 | JyZyXEL | it would benefit everyone |
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| 01:15.22 | jmcnaught | I guess you would submit a bug report then |
| 01:15.47 | JyZyXEL | and set it as a feature request |
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| 01:16.50 | SameDay | Oh boy, this is golden, I'm listening to a show from 1994, a radio ru-run, and they're talking about "this intrenet thing, it's catching up".. |
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| 01:19.59 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: you really have to trough such an ordeal to change a single config parameter from the official kernel? |
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| 01:20.57 | JyZyXEL | i guess this would be a better way: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-building |
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| 01:21.33 | ichthys | or only if you have the SSH port accessable remotely (like through port forwarding or something like that) |
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| 01:22.14 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: I'm probably not the best one to ask about that kind of thing because I'm just a regular user who is still trying to wrap his head around the Debian infrastructure and packaging myself. But it shouldn't be surprising that there's a process to follow for changing important packages for everyone |
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| 02:02.02 | jasabella | is this the official document? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 02:02.52 | themill | it's a bit dated |
| 02:05.22 | jasabella | that's what i thought |
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| 02:28.58 | Extensa5630G | d'oh, everytime that i run the audio setup sub-menu, i get that error bug thingy http://i.imgur.com/p0FuJmJ.png |
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| 02:50.44 | Onia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.04 | dondelelcaro | Onia: please turn that off |
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| 02:53.06 | Extensa5630G | Onia: is that some kind of script? |
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| 03:03.56 | ectospasm | hmmm, before I updated chromium today, it had Flash and Java plugins working (in wheezy). I updated chromium, and chromium didn't list either plugin. I installed pepperflash, and that seems to be working, but icedtea-plugin is already installed, so I'm at a loss as to what to do. |
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| 03:16.22 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: Sorry about the delay, had some IRL issues to deal with. I used fdisk to make 2 partitions on /dev/sda, then ran mkfs on both partitions. |
| 03:16.38 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: grub-install still fails. |
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| 03:26.25 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: Lucky for you, I have no life. |
| 03:26.35 | AndChat|624225 | :p |
| 03:27.01 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay, well I am jealous. |
| 03:27.09 | SameDay | Well, to be more precise, the kid's asleep, and wife took the cat to the E.R, so I have time. |
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| 03:27.46 | SameDay | So, how does your fdisk looks like now ? |
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| 03:27.59 | MARTA | pfff |
| 03:28.45 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay, well, I had two primary partitions, and made those ext2 |
| 03:29.06 | SameDay | so you have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 ? |
| 03:29.18 | AndChat|624225 | Yessir |
| 03:29.31 | SameDay | and you're trying grup-install /dev/sda1 ? |
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| 03:29.57 | AndChat|624225 | I tried that, and it complained about installing to a partition |
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| 03:30.32 | SameDay | mm |
| 03:30.40 | SameDay | I'll pm you |
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| 03:42.20 | Polyatomic | I'd like to add _deb http://[mirror]/debian/ oldstable main_ to my sources list . Can any any give me a mirror |
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| 03:46.15 | shawnbon206 | need task-mate-desktop package |
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| 03:48.12 | Polyatomic | Debian wheezy , mirror needed for oldstable |
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| 04:03.24 | Shires | Hello, I'm new to Debian. Can someone tell me what the following means, please? "[ 1320.716315] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.nds." |
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| 04:05.51 | themill | Shires: the kernel reports hung tasks in the log files to let you know something might be wrong. If you don't want to see the messages, then do what it says there. |
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| 04:13.26 | Shires | themill: Would you mind a pm? |
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| 04:26.54 | genex | can someone help me get logwatchs setup? i can normally get things like this working, but I am not familiar AT ALL with Smtp... |
| 04:27.02 | genex | * logwatch |
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| 05:02.51 | xar- | greetings, anyone have an excellent guide for building debian in a rescue environment? |
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| 05:04.26 | Arahael | xar-: What do you mean by "building" debian? |
| 05:05.09 | xar- | basically i have a rescue console with basic gnu userland; i need to construct an operating system via debootstrap |
| 05:05.29 | xar- | i've never done this before and am wondering if there's a kick-butt guide to making this happen successfully |
| 05:05.54 | Arahael | xar-: Ah, so not building, then. I've not used debootstrap, however I imagine that if you satisfy all those requirements, then you should be ok. |
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| 05:10.27 | xar- | hm |
| 05:10.44 | xar- | yea i found some docs on debian.org; it looks prehistoric |
| 05:10.46 | xar- | lol |
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| 05:15.53 | Arahael | xar-: Which ones? |
| 05:16.11 | Arahael | xar-: I can't really tell what you're doing: Are you installing debian on a supported architecture, or porting it to a new one? |
| 05:16.25 | themill | the install-guide has a section on how to install with debootstrap |
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| 05:26.07 | xar- | Arahael: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 05:26.41 | xar- | im in an environment where the datacenter is making decisions for me |
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| 05:28.51 | Arahael | xar-: It's still difficult to determine what your goal is. |
| 05:29.27 | xar- | basically i want to chroot my own debian build and boot off that, rather than a stock image provided to me by the datacenter, sorry if my english sucks lol |
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| 05:30.42 | wols | xar-: is this a VPS or similar? |
| 05:30.52 | xar- | dedicated |
| 05:30.57 | wols | that is not what I asedk |
| 05:30.59 | wols | *asked |
| 05:31.24 | xar- | it's a bare-metal, no virtualization |
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| 05:41.06 | Arahael | So, how should I debug my udev rules? |
| 05:41.10 | Arahael | Is there something they log to? |
| 05:41.22 | Arahael | (Not the udev events themselves... udevadm handles that, but I want to debug the rules themselves) |
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| 05:45.03 | aktiv[b] | I am trying to boot a wheezy livecd iso with grub2 loopback. My menuentry currently looks like http://bpaste.net/show/326714/ but it is unable to load the squashfs, what am I missing here? |
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| 06:37.19 | GazzaBazza | evening. |
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| 06:45.16 | monkwitdafunk | Hi gazzabazza |
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| 06:45.48 | monkwitdafunk | I finally have debian on old hardware that is fully upgraded |
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| 06:46.12 | GazzaBazza | Cool |
| 06:46.44 | GazzaBazza | I'm just playing around with a VPS running debian 7.0 |
| 06:47.23 | monkwitdafunk | The burning and building bad and cheap |
| 06:47.31 | monkwitdafunk | Was pretty labourous |
| 06:47.46 | monkwitdafunk | Are you using openwall? |
| 06:48.01 | GazzaBazza | Not sure, i bought it and then turned it off straight away |
| 06:48.08 | monkwitdafunk | Lxc containers |
| 06:48.36 | GazzaBazza | i'm currently learning how to secure it |
| 06:50.17 | monkwitdafunk | I like the idea of killdisk secure wiping partions on a raid0 for VPS dismantle and build cycle |
| 06:50.44 | monkwitdafunk | Software of tue VPS systems |
| 06:50.47 | monkwitdafunk | Of the |
| 06:51.25 | monkwitdafunk | Cycle that software right but i am not ready to try it out |
| 06:52.51 | monkwitdafunk | I know it works perfectly on many secondary memory blocks that make up a system |
| 06:53.03 | monkwitdafunk | For openwall |
| 06:53.43 | monkwitdafunk | Such as multiple hard drives |
| 06:54.26 | monkwitdafunk | I dont know if lxc containers can be delt that way |
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| 06:55.55 | GazzaBazza | has anyone used Webmin ? |
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| 06:56.37 | wols | !webmin |
| 06:56.37 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 06:57.20 | formorer | never ever use webmin. |
| 06:57.29 | GazzaBazza | ok |
| 06:57.39 | GazzaBazza | <free whcp> |
| 06:57.44 | GazzaBazza | !free whcp |
| 06:57.45 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig> and <ispCP> Omega. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
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| 07:01.10 | GazzaBazza | If webmin is terrible, why is listed at https://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels ? |
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| 07:10.39 | formorer | GazzaBazza: because its a wiki |
| 07:11.22 | GazzaBazza | how about directadmin? |
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| 07:11.40 | GazzaBazza | oh wait it's not free :) |
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| 07:16.48 | GazzaBazza | ISPConfig looks pretty good |
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| 07:19.10 | formorer | I am not a fan of any of those systems. |
| 07:19.24 | GazzaBazza | what are you a fan of? |
| 07:20.05 | formorer | GazzaBazza: real system management, like puppet, cfengine or chef |
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| 07:22.57 | jmcnaught | GazzaBazza: see also Ansible, Salt Stack |
| 07:23.25 | GazzaBazza | I'm after something free |
| 07:24.18 | jmcnaught | those are all free, and they're all available in debian |
| 07:24.41 | GazzaBazza | cool |
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| 07:26.04 | jmcnaught | they're not the same kind of thing as a control panel though. they're tools to automate your configuration management |
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| 07:26.55 | jmcnaught | still a better way to go in my opinion |
| 07:27.02 | GazzaBazza | What I'm trying to achieve is, install Apache, PHP, MYSQL, PHPMyAdmin, ffmpeg, mencoder, imagemagick, ioncube loader |
| 07:27.36 | GazzaBazza | just have to users setup, root and www |
| 07:27.39 | GazzaBazza | *two |
| 07:27.56 | wols | then you certainly do not need any panel software |
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| 07:31.33 | jmcnaught | panel software often uses quite a bit of resources, and most of them have poor security track records which is probably to be expected considering what they are. They're sort of like a giant attack surface for your server. |
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| 07:34.06 | GazzaBazza | ok |
| 07:34.12 | GazzaBazza | I will stick to CLI for now |
| 07:34.20 | GazzaBazza | my server only has 1GB of ram anyway |
| 07:35.05 | formorer | good luck. |
| 07:35.46 | GazzaBazza | Thanks |
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| 07:37.04 | jmcnaught | I found Ansible pretty easy to get started with. I test my Ansible playbooks against VMs on my computer at home, and when they're ready I deploy them against my server (and never do any CLI as root on the server itself). Better to make the mistakes at home, a good way to prevent those terrible nights when you hit <enter> too fast and end up having to restore everything |
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| 08:29.47 | xar- | what's wrong with webmin? |
| 08:30.19 | xar- | oh it's unsafe? hmm interesting |
| 08:30.34 | formorer | it got removed from debian for security reasons. the whole design is ehm... bad. |
| 08:30.55 | OpenTokix | webmin... hahahhaha |
| 08:31.03 | xar- | what's a better alternative? |
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| 08:31.19 | formorer | the shell. puppet or similiar. |
| 08:31.33 | xar- | what's a better alternative as far as control panels are concerned*? |
| 08:31.36 | formorer | in my eyes having a webserver controlling your system is always bad. |
| 08:31.50 | Mikaela | There is #webmin too. |
| 08:31.52 | xar- | not what i asked, although I understand what you're saying. |
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| 08:32.18 | Mikaela | Hmm, why not webmin? I am interested now too, but I'll ask dpkg. |
| 08:33.07 | formorer | as said, it is not secure. |
| 08:33.14 | formorer | it never was and will probably never be. |
| 08:33.36 | xar- | i can understand if it exposes too much that could be harmful to an end-user; but ssh can be harmful if used irresponsibly; if webmin is protected by a firewall, is it still such a big deal? |
| 08:33.48 | Mikaela | How is it not secure? |
| 08:33.59 | formorer | one single process running as root. |
| 08:34.07 | formorer | every single problem gives you root. |
| 08:34.20 | Mikaela | It can be binded to specific IPs and it has two factor authentication. |
| 08:34.22 | Mikaela | Oh, I see. |
| 08:34.23 | formorer | nearly every aspect of secure programming wasn't followed |
| 08:34.38 | xar- | again if the port webmin is listening on is policed by a firewall, what's the actual security issue, I don't understand. |
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| 08:35.29 | formorer | xar-: sure. you can of course also bind a root shell to a port with inetd and protect it via firewall. that doesn't make things sane. |
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| 08:36.41 | formorer | and people are stupid. as soon as you provide a software surrounded by big fat warnings, people will just put it unsecured in the internet. |
| 08:36.51 | formorer | so it is better not to recommend any unsecure software. |
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| 08:37.30 | xar- | I understand your perspective; but it's disconnected from the business world. |
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| 08:38.11 | formorer | thats the reason why we have hacks for nearly every webservice. |
| 08:38.35 | xar- | I work with clients who are unwilling to spend money for IT to support their infrastructure; some just want a control panel to get things done; dangerous or not; it's just the cold harsh reality of the industry. |
| 08:38.40 | formorer | because everyone is stupid, you shouldn't stop trying to make the internet a better place. |
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| 08:39.20 | bobochimp1987aka | yo |
| 08:39.24 | xar- | sometimes the best you can do is recommend best practices and stitch them up when they get hurt. |
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| 08:39.41 | bobochimp1987aka | i need mls logins to relesate |
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| 08:39.48 | Mikaela | I could say the same about UTF-8 and supporting LATIN1 and other non-UTF-8 charsets. |
| 08:40.00 | xar- | most people can't add a virtual host, but they can click some buttons in webmin, sure, easy peazy. |
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| 08:40.58 | formorer | we also don't let people drive without a drivers license, just because they want to and the license is too expensive. |
| 08:41.28 | xar- | i appreciate what you're saying I really do; just the layman doesn't have a neckbeard ;D |
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| 09:19.58 | hatter_ | rjsalts , it's not in /var/log/messages |
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| 09:20.35 | hatter_ | rjsalts, but they are in /var/log/kern.log |
| 09:20.36 | hatter_ | thx |
| 09:20.43 | hatter_ | I have never looked in there before. |
| 09:21.55 | rjsalts | hatter_: ah, only info notice and warn level messages end up in /var/log/messages with the defaults |
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| 09:23.06 | hatter_ | rjsalts, hmmm, messages like this : ata2.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT |
| 09:23.07 | hatter_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:23.39 | hatter_ | however, I have never checked kern.log in ten years of using linux *facepalm* |
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| 09:23.58 | rjsalts | hatter_: that's probably emerg |
| 09:24.12 | hatter_ | 'emerg' ? |
| 09:24.30 | rjsalts | point is that's the severity is higher than what goes to /var/log/messages |
| 09:24.57 | rjsalts | nope, maybe only error |
| 09:25.01 | rjsalts | emergency |
| 09:25.16 | rjsalts | you can see all this at /etc/rsyslog.conf |
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| 09:25.46 | hatter_ | yep, failing hard drive, turns out I had two problems, gigabit network latency over nfs and one failing hard drive out of four (RAID1+0) |
| 09:26.01 | hatter_ | but I didn't know about the drive until quite late, |
| 09:26.24 | hatter_ | no smart error, no mdadm error, no read/write speed error |
| 09:26.50 | hatter_ | nothing in messages or syslog, but there it is in kern.log. |
| 09:27.13 | hatter_ | now, back to NFS tuning on gigabit. |
| 09:27.33 | rjsalts | if you can raise the MTU on those ports to 9k |
| 09:27.37 | hatter_ | long latency at the end of transfer |
| 09:28.14 | rjsalts | you using default udp transport or tcp? |
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| 09:29.36 | AndChat|624225 | So, I have extlinux booting up debian's netinst iso |
| 09:29.44 | AndChat|624225 | Question |
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| 09:30.03 | AndChat|624225 | Why does the netinst iso look for a Cd, then cry when it can't find one? |
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| 09:30.23 | francogrex | Hi, I have install debian v 6.5 some time ago using a CD1 from the http://www.debian.org/CD/ and the rest was done by internet |
| 09:31.12 | francogrex | I had windows at the time, now I want to update/reinstall a new version (erase all that I have a start anew)... how can I doi that? |
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| 09:33.14 | AndChat|624225 | francogrex: Do you currently have Debian 6.5 installed? |
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| 09:33.28 | hatter_ | rjsalts, using the default, which is TCP isn't it ? |
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| 09:35.09 | francogrex | AndChat|624225: yes indeed. 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Tue May 13 16:33:32 UTC 2014 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 09:35.58 | francogrex | I am ready to earse all and start fresh |
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| 09:36.03 | francogrex | erase |
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| 09:36.23 | francogrex | backup files and folders are made .. |
| 09:36.23 | AndChat|624225 | francogrex: if it's working normally, you should be able to update from within debian |
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| 09:36.56 | francogrex | AndChat|624225: not working normmaly hence the update... because alsa drivers messed up and a lot of other things.... |
| 09:37.07 | AndChat|624225 | Ahhh |
| 09:37.18 | francogrex | I may even want to reinstall the same version 6.5 |
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| 09:39.02 | francogrex | I quite liked the gnome feel of 6.5 versus the new ones |
| 09:39.23 | francogrex | anyway how do u advise to proceed? |
| 09:40.40 | AndChat|624225 | francogrex: just follow the docs. Do you prefer a Cd install? |
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| 09:42.13 | AndChat|624225 | Oh for crying out loud.... |
| 09:42.15 | francogrex | cd install is ok |
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| 09:42.44 | AndChat|624225 | Why does the CD image look for a CD?!! |
| 09:43.21 | francogrex | i could also download DVD1 ; I don't know functionally what's the advantage of one versus the other... |
| 09:43.24 | AndChat|624225 | is ready to throw his laptop out the window |
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| 09:54.42 | francogrex | final word, do you advise to install the newest stable version (versus the slightly older one?) |
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| 09:58.45 | francogrex | I can't find 7.5.0 with gnome. there are with kde, xcfe ... |
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| 10:02.49 | Radon_3 | Hi guys, how come debian is not using the latest kernel? |
| 10:03.00 | towo` | why should it? |
| 10:03.04 | OpenTokix | Radon_3: Howcome you ask? |
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| 10:04.43 | Radon_3 | Cause I was reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel and it says the latest version is 3.14.5 but when I run uname -a it says "3.11.0-22-generic" |
| 10:04.45 | Radon_3 | :( |
| 10:05.12 | xingu | Radon_3: send it back, demand a full refund. |
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| 10:06.20 | Radon_3 | xingu: what is up with the community today? |
| 10:06.32 | Radon_3 | no one feels right, right??? |
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| 10:06.38 | OpenTokix | Radon_3: so you want a higher number? |
| 10:07.09 | Radon_3 | OMG, that sounds a bit authopritive... like "hey you want something bigger???!!!" |
| 10:07.25 | Radon_3 | *authopritive = authoritative |
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| 10:09.31 | xar- | debootstrap worked well, nailed it on the first try |
| 10:09.40 | Ozzie2014 | Hi. See if anyone knows what happened and how to fix it: In D7 with Gnome Classic I was editing the main menu, you know by checking the boxes to make it or not an application, when to give click on one of these boxes... closed session, and now when I click the main menu panel disappears, reappears, I click the menu and a message that covers the entire desktop appears saying that the session can not continue, restart. I think something got corrupted, but |
| 10:09.40 | Ozzie2014 | I do not know why. Suggestions? |
| 10:09.44 | xar- | no more stock datacenter crap |
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| 10:12.13 | netsrot | which package do I need to install to get r600_dri.so? |
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| 10:14.33 | Nik05 | netsrot libgl1-mesa-dri |
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| 10:15.24 | Nik05 | but next time: apt-file search r600_dri.so |
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| 10:16.43 | ted20 | Does PowerVR SGX545 is support, yet? |
| 10:17.45 | netsrot | glxinfo seems to search for r600_dri.so where it isn't located. How do I fix this? |
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| 10:19.41 | netsrot | I'm running 32bit debian testing and it's located in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/ but glxinfo searches in /usr/lib/dri/ |
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| 10:19.59 | ted20 | Nobody knows? |
| 10:20.33 | Nik05 | netsrot put a symlink in it... |
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| 10:24.41 | netsrot | Nik05: thanks, that worked. not sure why glxinfo doesn't look at the right places. |
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| 10:27.01 | Nik05 | netsrot or maybe you need to install multiarch-support |
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| 10:27.46 | Nik05 | do you have i486-linux-gnu.conf in /etc/ld.so.conf.d? |
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| 10:30.19 | netsrot | Nik05: yes I have the conf |
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| 10:31.10 | netsrot | Nik05: I also have multiarch-support installed. |
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| 10:37.58 | netsrot | glxinfo is saying I got s3tc but when I try to launch "mark of the ninja" I get segfault and the only forum post I found about that was missing s3tc. |
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| 10:40.17 | lanodan | Hello, I'm on jessie and nvidia module for Xorg doesn't load |
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| 10:42.57 | lanodan | It load with nouveau when I load it (modprobe nouveau) |
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| 10:47.03 | ted20 | Nobody knows :(? |
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| 10:48.13 | netsrot | lanodan: how did you install nvidia driver? |
| 10:48.55 | lanodan | netsrot: sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver |
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| 10:49.18 | Cookiedough_3000 | hello guys |
| 10:49.21 | Cookiedough_3000 | can i ask a question? |
| 10:49.31 | Cookiedough_3000 | :) |
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| 10:49.55 | lanodan | Cookiedough_3000: You're on the right channel for it ;) |
| 10:50.03 | netsrot | lanodan: then I don't know. I have allways downloaded it from the nvidia website which isn't recommended I think. |
| 10:50.07 | pupil | hello, good evening |
| 10:50.17 | Cookiedough_3000 | I'm thinking of getting into linux, how do i add debian onto my system? |
| 10:50.21 | Cookiedough_3000 | any good sources? |
| 10:50.32 | Cookiedough_3000 | I'm new to it :) |
| 10:50.42 | lanodan | netsrot: Oh maybe I should try it, because it failed after updating it |
| 10:51.48 | netsrot | lanodan: which gpu and kernel are you using? |
| 10:51.58 | lanodan | Cookiedough_3000: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 10:52.06 | Cookiedough_3000 | thanks |
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| 10:52.15 | Cookiedough_3000 | Does it have a tutorial as well? |
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| 10:52.46 | lanodan | netsrot: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] (rev a1) || Linux athlon 3.14-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.4-1 (2014-05-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:53.14 | lanodan | Cookiedough_3000: Yup |
| 10:53.23 | Cookiedough_3000 | Thanks so much |
| 10:53.34 | Cookiedough_3000 | Greatly appreicate it |
| 10:53.35 | lanodan | Cookiedough_3000: but Debian is very simple to install |
| 10:53.36 | Cookiedough_3000 | :D |
| 10:53.44 | Cookiedough_3000 | Alright |
| 10:53.52 | Cookiedough_3000 | Happy linuxing everyone! |
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| 10:54.55 | AndChat|624225 | Sweet merciful lords of Linux, thank you for debootstrap |
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| 10:56.00 | lanodan | netsrot: Nvidia gtx 650 Ti Boost |
| 10:56.16 | TonyStylo | Hi Guys, Fedora seems is proud of itself because has, at they say, a strong security thanks to SElinux. Debian seems to have it but it's not activate by default. If SElinux it's so good 4 security why Debian doesn't have it by default? thanks |
| 10:56.52 | netsrot | lanodan: I think it should work. |
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| 10:59.44 | lanodan | netsrot: what should works, the debian testing(jessie) package ? |
| 11:00.55 | pupil | TonyStylo: most people find that configure SElinux is complicated |
| 11:00.57 | wols | lanodan: yes it will |
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| 11:01.16 | lanodan | wols: And It doesn't at all ! |
| 11:01.38 | wols | !doesn't work |
| 11:01.39 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 11:01.49 | netsrot | lanodan: I was only checking the http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/76278/en-us page on supported cards. and I have tested that kernel with other nvidia cards. |
| 11:02.09 | wols | !tell lanodan baout nvidia dkms |
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| 11:02.25 | wols | lanodan: just installing the packages is not enough. you must manually configure it all too |
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| 11:02.37 | wols | !tell lanodan about nvidia dkms |
| 11:03.04 | lanodan | wols: I've configured it, X loads and say he couln't load nvidia |
| 11:03.24 | wols | lanodan: what happens when you modprobe the kernel module. exact message |
| 11:03.59 | damo22 | does anyone have a lenovo X201 ? |
| 11:04.10 | damo22 | please message me |
| 11:04.24 | wols | !tell damo22 about anyone |
| 11:04.45 | lanodan | wols: The kernel module says nothing |
| 11:05.18 | wols | lanodan: pastebin the output of lsmod then |
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| 11:05.44 | wols | run startx and pastebin the Xorg.0.log too |
| 11:05.53 | netsrot | lanodan: I have to go, good luck with the driver. |
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| 11:06.39 | TonyStylo | pupil, ok thanks |
| 11:11.20 | lanodan | wols: http://paste.debian.net/102791 |
| 11:11.48 | wols | lanodan: lsmod output please |
| 11:12.25 | davi | What is the URL of a public_html Alioth <user> account? |
| 11:12.25 | davi | The below one does not work: |
| 11:12.25 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.52 | lanodan | wols: And here is /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://paste.debian.net/102792 |
| 11:14.06 | lanodan | wols: lsmod output http://paste.debian.net/102793 |
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| 11:17.01 | wols | !tell lanodan about nvidia dkms |
| 11:17.29 | wols | lanodan: you still have nouveau loaded which is why it doesnb't work. you need to blackist it (don't froget initramfs too) |
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| 11:18.39 | lanodan | wols: nouveau is already blacklisted, I only load it by hand to have a basic X session |
| 11:18.56 | lanodan | wols: So is there a way to force unload a module ? |
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| 11:28.40 | AndChat|624225 | Alright! |
| 11:28.42 | AndChat|624225 | So! |
| 11:29.31 | AndChat|624225 | Debian is now installed to the hard disk on my eeepc, after buying a USB stick from Prizix. |
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| 11:30.05 | AndChat|624225 | That USB did not install to the disk the way it should have |
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| 11:30.37 | AndChat|624225 | But I finally just used debootstrap and installed it that way |
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| 11:31.51 | lanodan | Ok so I managed to unload nouveau (i'm connected to ssh) |
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| 11:34.05 | lanodan | What module I need to load to have my TTY back ? |
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| 11:35.29 | lanodan | I'll reboot |
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| 11:40.06 | lanodan | I'm back |
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| 11:42.13 | lanodan | Ok, nvidia has loaded ! |
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| 11:43.29 | lanodan | (Just need to configure nicely xorg) |
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| 11:43.44 | wols | no, it's not xorg but your kernel that you need to configure for the module |
| 11:45.17 | dassault | does anyone know where fortune/strfile are taken care of? i have a fortunes file that strfile says has handled strings for, but then fortune says none were found |
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| 12:11.22 | Radon_3 | hi everybody, I know this isn't you duty, but I don't know which image file to choose from the website. But is this the correct place for getting the USB installer: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ ? |
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| 12:12.27 | formorer | Radon_3: dd if=debian*.iso of=/dev/sdX (wherever your usb stick is) is usually enough |
| 12:14.04 | wols | Radon_3: no it's not the right place |
| 12:14.17 | formorer | Radon_3: but yes, you can also use the boot.img.gz from that dir: zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdX |
| 12:14.42 | wols | Radon_3: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/6.0.9/amd64/iso-cd/ cd1 or netinst from this place |
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| 12:17.05 | Radon_3 | sorry everybody I got disconnected, what was the last message that someone sent to me? cause I only heard a beep. :( |
| 12:17.25 | Radon_3 | and I had to restart the system .... |
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| 12:18.12 | wols | download the debian installer from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/6.0.9/amd64/iso-cd/ CD1 or netinst |
| 12:18.21 | wols | damn. wrong debian version. sorry |
| 12:18.25 | abrotman | eh .. not 6.x :) |
| 12:18.40 | wols | here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 12:19.11 | Radon_3 | but I don't have a DVD drive, I can only use a USB stick. |
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| 12:19.19 | Radon_3 | (the nagging began :( ) |
| 12:19.30 | formorer | 14:12 <formorer> Radon_3: dd if=debian*.iso of=/dev/sdX (wherever your usb stick is) is usually enough |
| 12:19.53 | wols | Radon_3: these work all for usb sticks just fine |
| 12:20.09 | wols | Radon_3: under what OS will you copy the iso over to the stick? |
| 12:20.23 | Radon_3 | then why is there a seprate folder for usb stick images? |
| 12:20.31 | wols | legacy |
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| 12:20.37 | Radon_3 | wols: I am under ubuntu right now.. |
| 12:20.38 | formorer | because there are several ways to create usb sticks. |
| 12:20.50 | wols | ok, under ubuntu you can do it like formorer suggested above |
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| 12:21.32 | Radon_3 | formorer said some code I don't understand |
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| 12:22.12 | wols | !tell Radon_3 about ig |
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| 12:26.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Radon_3 about usb install |
| 12:27.22 | thingamabob | dpkg: tell thingamabob about love & sex |
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| 12:33.16 | DoctorD90 | hello guys, what is pass of live? |
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| 12:33.28 | xand | pass of live? |
| 12:33.38 | DoctorD90 | su -> ask a password, what is it? |
| 12:33.39 | deeb_ | hi |
| 12:33.48 | xand | try sudo su |
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| 12:33.52 | xand | with no password |
| 12:34.22 | DoctorD90 | it doesnt ask with that, but i need to put it in a bash script to auto set something |
| 12:34.45 | deeb_ | i wand download link for "debian kde 64x iso" |
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| 12:35.33 | deeb_ | anybody can help? |
| 12:35.46 | DoctorD90 | if i put 'sudo su' it stops bash script, and start once i stop sudo ....how can i solve it? |
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| 12:36.07 | xand | DoctorD90: sudo su and then you can change the password (passwd root) |
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| 12:36.42 | DoctorD90 | isnt there another way to automatize all? :) |
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| 12:37.06 | DoctorD90 | i would click and leave script runs.... |
| 12:37.15 | deeb_ | i want download link for "debian kde 64x iso" |
| 12:37.35 | DoctorD90 | deeb_: check in download page |
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| 12:37.54 | Radon_3 | I see, so that /hd-media/ folder is for those who want extra things, then I would only need " http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso " andI would have to put it on a USB stick using one of the mentioned methods, am I correct? |
| 12:38.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Radon_3 about usb install |
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| 12:38.16 | abrotman | the instructions are in the installation manual |
| 12:38.21 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Radon_3 about ig |
| 12:39.00 | deeb_ | i'm confused in download page there are many links and types |
| 12:39.07 | deeb_ | :/ |
| 12:39.16 | dassault | does anyone know where fortune/strfile are taken care of? i have a fortunes file that strfile says has handled strings for, but then fortune says none were found |
| 12:39.38 | DoctorD90 | deeb_: do you want live? |
| 12:39.47 | deeb_ | offline |
| 12:40.00 | deeb_ | the bigger image |
| 12:40.01 | DoctorD90 | ......LIVE, not online installation.... |
| 12:40.08 | DoctorD90 | lol |
| 12:40.24 | deeb_ | not live .. i want to install it |
| 12:40.27 | DoctorD90 | do you want run from image, or do you want install only? |
| 12:40.29 | DoctorD90 | ok |
| 12:40.35 | DoctorD90 | debian main page |
| 12:40.36 | deeb_ | kde |
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| 12:41.11 | DoctorD90 | get installation, click on left, on i386 o amd64, it deepend from you |
| 12:41.19 | DoctorD90 | and then download .iso file |
| 12:41.28 | DoctorD90 | 7.5.0 kde :) done |
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| 12:43.19 | deeb_ | this is many types "amd64armelarmhfi386ia64kfreebsd-i386kfreebsd-amd64" |
| 12:43.58 | DoctorD90 | i repeat, amd64 or i386, forget others |
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| 12:44.17 | Radon_3 | deeb_: that is actually a very good thing, but it could be confusing for people like you and me, but we should be greatful for it actually. |
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| 12:44.54 | deeb_ | is it kde? |
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| 12:46.12 | _1_galoeh60boy | G |
| 12:46.14 | DoctorD90 | i386 amd64 is your type of processor |
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| 12:46.31 | DoctorD90 | you have to know what is it |
| 12:46.36 | deeb_ | my lap dell latitude |
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| 12:47.27 | DoctorD90 | ....deeb_ i cant know if it is i386 or amd from this....on case there is some logo? pentium? intel? |
| 12:47.49 | deeb_ | amd64=64x , i386=32x ....... right? |
| 12:47.56 | deeb_ | intel core i 5 |
| 12:48.01 | DoctorD90 | great! |
| 12:48.06 | DoctorD90 | use i386 |
| 12:48.18 | deeb_ | 6G ram |
| 12:48.19 | abrotman | uh .. why? |
| 12:48.22 | abrotman | use amd64 |
| 12:48.36 | DoctorD90 | (if this is the pc where you have to put it on...) |
| 12:48.48 | abrotman | chooose amd64, not i386 |
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| 12:48.54 | DoctorD90 | abrotman: sorry me, why? 0o intel is not i386? |
| 12:49.08 | abrotman | DoctorD90: perhaps you sohuld read the descriptions on the website |
| 12:49.32 | DoctorD90 | xP i run live, and.i always use i386.... |
| 12:49.35 | abrotman | deeb_: choose amd64 |
| 12:49.42 | DoctorD90 | later i will go to read |
| 12:49.48 | abrotman | DoctorD90: That's your decision, you're misinformed, that's your problem |
| 12:49.57 | deeb_ | ok amd64 ........ is it kde? |
| 12:50.12 | abrotman | look at the filename for the ISO |
| 12:51.47 | DoctorD90 | abrotman: i start to be confused with i686, i386, amd64 amd86 and so on :P you have rigth :) but i dont have yet well understand it... |
| 12:52.02 | abrotman | I noticed |
| 12:52.15 | DoctorD90 | i only understand that i386 is much supported, because oldest pc can run.it |
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| 12:52.29 | deeb_ | how can i know the interface? |
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| 12:53.45 | deeb_ | whatever .... thank you all :) |
| 12:53.47 | DoctorD90 | ted20 what do you mean? |
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| 12:54.16 | abrotman | DoctorD90: that's not true either .. I don't know where you get your information |
| 12:54.44 | DoctorD90 | from english page xD amd english isnt my native language |
| 12:55.03 | DoctorD90 | and in my native language there isnt very clear explaination |
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| 12:57.14 | erry | if i have a network interface configured to automatically come up in /etc/network/interfaces will it come up if i unplug the cable and plug it back in? |
| 12:57.28 | DoctorD90 | abrotman: can i ask a little clarifycatiom about? if you have time for? |
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| 12:58.38 | DoctorD90 | erry, yes in theory...i use nm-cli and it show all. if i plug or unplug eth |
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| 13:02.28 | abrotman | DoctorD90: just ask, don't ask to ask |
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| 13:02.43 | abrotman | erry: if you have it set to allow-hotplug |
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| 13:03.53 | abrotman | erry: so instead of 'auto eth0', you would have 'allow-hotplug eth0' or whatever the interface is |
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| 13:09.52 | DoctorD90 | abrotman: i would mean an explaination about i386 and amd64...bit i googled it, and i find that amd64 is simply x64bit |
| 13:10.39 | DoctorD90 | only...i dont understand why sometimes i find amd64 and i386, and foreach one, 32 and 64 bit version :/ |
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| 13:11.30 | DoctorD90 | if 382 stands for 32bit, and amd for 64, why for both there is 32 and 64 versions? 0o |
| 13:11.43 | abrotman | that question doesn't make sense .. try again |
| 13:11.49 | formorer | where do you find a 64bit version of i386? |
| 13:12.25 | abrotman | formorer: to be fair, there is a 64bit kernel in i386 .. But I don't think that's what DoctorD90 meant |
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| 13:13.17 | DoctorD90 | formorer now i dont remember well...but this is the point. i386=32bit and amd64=64bit ....why on some site i have find 32&64bit for i386 and amd64? |
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| 13:13.41 | abrotman | DoctorD90: show us what website you're talking about |
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| 13:13.51 | themill | DoctorD90: what does «why on some site i have find 32&64bit for i386 and amd64» actually mean? |
| 13:14.00 | DoctorD90 | eh....i dont remember exactly now... |
| 13:14.11 | abrotman | thinks DoctorD90 misunderstood what he read |
| 13:15.12 | DoctorD90 | that in past under i386 download folder, i have find out 32bit and 64bit version. and under amd64 folder i found 32bit and 64bit version |
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| 13:15.52 | abrotman | No |
| 13:16.00 | DoctorD90 | but im thinking that person that make that distro dont have really understand what he was doing....maybe.this is the answer |
| 13:16.17 | abrotman | So this isn't even related to Debian? |
| 13:16.27 | abrotman | is never getting that 10 minutes back .. |
| 13:16.41 | DoctorD90 | not OFFICIAL debian...just a distro debian based |
| 13:16.51 | themill | DoctorD90: #debian is for debian. |
| 13:17.05 | DoctorD90 | when i download a distro i think that people know much than me |
| 13:17.37 | DoctorD90 | yes Yes themill, i was just asking about difference i386 and amd64 :) |
| 13:17.48 | abrotman | DoctorD90: please just stop |
| 13:17.59 | DoctorD90 | but in the end one means 32bit and another 64bit |
| 13:18.09 | themill | I think we covered that some time ago. |
| 13:18.09 | abrotman | DoctorD90: There is information on the Debian website. I suggest you read it. |
| 13:18.14 | DoctorD90 | yes....i have understand abrotman by the way :) |
| 13:18.27 | erry | abrotman, cool thanks |
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| 13:19.20 | DoctorD90 | abrotman: i will read tonigth at home :) thx by.the way :) good sunday :) bye |
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| 13:35.04 | Beschwa | hi is nfs over ipv6 possible? i cant find any docs, only for solaris |
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| 13:45.20 | tugrik | Beschwa: see no reason why not, as long as you can get the NFS server to listen on IPv6 |
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| 13:50.38 | average | hey, where's a timeline of Debian kernels ? |
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| 13:50.46 | Guest67866 | ciO |
| 13:50.48 | average | I mean a table with Debian version, Linux kernel version |
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| 13:51.09 | average | I was only able to find this http://timeline.debian.net/ |
| 13:51.15 | average | Guest67866: chill .. |
| 13:53.22 | abrotman | average: look at the changelog |
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| 13:57.08 | ted20 | Eh, I've broken vertical bar in keyboard... |
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| 13:59.23 | average | abrotman: thank you. with your help I was able to find http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/ChangeLog |
| 13:59.32 | average | abrotman: this answered one of my questions through a grep |
| 14:00.41 | ted20 | Is it possible to replace? |
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| 14:08.31 | average | what's the proper way to switch the grub default kernel ? |
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| 14:09.11 | average | should I just edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and modify the line that says set default="0" ? |
| 14:09.16 | dvs | nope |
| 14:09.21 | dvs | /etc/default/grub |
| 14:09.23 | average | ah |
| 14:10.12 | average | dvs: and I'll modify GRUB_DEFAULT in there right ? |
| 14:10.19 | dvs | yes |
| 14:10.24 | average | dvs: thank you sir, you're the best ! |
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| 14:30.52 | Doxin | only one program seems to be able to use audio at a time. what gives? |
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| 14:32.54 | abrotman | how is your sound configured? |
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| 14:34.45 | Doxin | abrotman: that's a rather broad question. |
| 14:34.55 | Doxin | abrotman: pulseaudio on alsa afaik |
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| 14:37.23 | abrotman | Doxin: so you should be able to have two things play at once |
| 14:37.38 | Doxin | abrotman: I should be able yes, |
| 14:38.06 | abrotman | which two apps are you using? |
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| 14:38.24 | horsik | is there any smarter program than column? |
| 14:38.31 | Doxin | abrotman: banshee and youtube, but the problem occurs with minecraft and banshee too |
| 14:39.06 | horsik | one that respects strings, allows to set maximum number of columns in the output etc |
| 14:39.19 | abrotman | to do what? |
| 14:39.33 | abrotman | horsik: might help if you provided an example of an input line |
| 14:39.58 | abrotman | Doxin: youtube is flash, not sure how that plays with Pulse |
| 14:40.12 | horsik | abrotman: Identifier "A4TECH USB Mouse" |
| 14:40.17 | Doxin | abrotman: well it /used/ to work fine |
| 14:40.20 | horsik | pass that to column -t |
| 14:40.48 | abrotman | and do what with it? |
| 14:42.00 | abrotman | horsik: oh, you mean you want the quoted string to be treated as one column ? |
| 14:42.12 | horsik | yes |
| 14:42.22 | abrotman | I'm not aware of anything, maybe ask #bash |
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| 14:51.46 | natsukao | http://beta.slashdot.org/story/179639 and http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.gnu.general |
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| 14:52.38 | porton | I need an MP3 player with shortcuts to skip playing several seconds back into the time. I tried Kaffeine but it does not play MP3 while I speak Skype. I need both Skype and an MP3 player at the same time |
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| 14:55.45 | krpt | rhaaa /usr/bin/X :0 vt7 -br -nolisten tcp -auth.. ,althouhg I have DisallowTCP = false under the security category in /etc/gdm/daemon.conf |
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| 14:56.19 | abrotman | Onia: turn that off, it's annoying |
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| 14:57.07 | abrotman | krpt: which IPs is it listening on ? |
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| 14:58.00 | krpt | abrotman: where can I see that , I suppose local by default no ? |
| 14:58.17 | abrotman | krpt: netstat -an |
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| 14:59.18 | krpt | bunch of lines like : unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 12365 /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 |
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| 14:59.41 | abrotman | so find the one you believe shows it's listening on TCP |
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| 15:00.20 | krpt | It does not listen on tcp abrotman , isn't that the nolisten arg for ? |
| 15:00.36 | abrotman | doesn't understand the problem |
| 15:00.58 | krpt | I wish it would listen on tcp so I could display a remote app on it |
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| 15:01.38 | krpt | tcp listening is disabled by default , hence the DisallowTCP = false in the daemon.conf I added |
| 15:01.57 | abrotman | Is this wheezy? |
| 15:02.07 | krpt | :) |
| 15:02.09 | krpt | no |
| 15:02.13 | krpt | jessie |
| 15:02.20 | abrotman | krpt: I think you want /etc/gdm3/ ? |
| 15:02.31 | krpt | yes |
| 15:02.45 | abrotman | you stated above you're using a different file ? |
| 15:03.05 | krpt | full path is /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf |
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| 15:04.05 | krpt | this should have solved my issue : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/44818/how-can-i-connect-to-a-remote-x-server-without-ssh |
| 15:05.13 | krpt | gonna say hello to our debian-next friends, maybe that'll ring a bell as an unstable issue :) |
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| 15:05.46 | abrotman | krpt: do you have to also enable xdmcp ? |
| 15:06.12 | abrotman | krpt: /usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas has a bunch of opttions |
| 15:06.12 | krpt | I don't think so |
| 15:08.08 | krpt | ok thanks, for now I'll just try to understand why the modified conf is ignored |
| 15:08.16 | erry | can i configure /etc/network/interfaces so i get a different static ip automatically based on the network i'm on? (if i'm on 10.226.* i want to get 10.226.136.225, if i'm on 192.168.42* i want to get 192.168.42.206) |
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| 15:09.38 | abrotman | judd: info netenv |
| 15:09.39 | judd | Package netenv (admin, extra) in wheezy/i386: Configure your system for different network environments. Version: 0.94.3-30; Size: 85.4k; Installed: 287k; Homepage: http://netenv.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:09.53 | abrotman | (and I've never used it, just know it exists) |
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| 15:11.24 | abrotman | erry: So I guess oyu can try that, let us know how it goes |
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| 15:11.38 | erry | mk |
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| 15:14.46 | themill | erry: guessnet+ifplugd |
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| 15:17.11 | erry | ooh cool |
| 15:17.13 | erry | i'll try that |
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| 15:31.34 | carlosso | hi, I need help to configure my debian client autentication with ldap |
| 15:31.54 | carlosso | ldpap server is provided by zentyal |
| 15:32.44 | carlosso | I followed this: https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/PAM |
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| 15:33.51 | carlosso | ldapsearch work correctly, but my system can't found user on ldap server: |
| 15:33.52 | carlosso | davide@osvaldo:~$ id test id: test: No such user |
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| 15:35.16 | tremon | carlosso: did you setup nss correctly? https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/NSS#NSS_Setup_with_libnss-ldapd |
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| 15:38.45 | carlosso | thanks tremon, with dpkg-reconfigure libnss-pam I fuond a typo in my config |
| 15:38.49 | carlosso | tremon++ |
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| 16:13.46 | erry | themill, i have http://errietta.me/paste/view.php?id=421 and what i get if i try to do ifdown then ifup is http://errietta.me/paste/view.php?id=422 |
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| 16:15.28 | erry | so it's finding the right interfaces but something's up with the ifupdown thing :D |
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| 16:16.16 | erry | i also tried to do an ifconfig while the 192.* ip was working and it said its ip was 10.226.136.225 |
| 16:16.19 | erry | so that was a bit wat |
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| 16:19.15 | jpinx | help.. tried to create a micro ssd copy of my stble but now can not boot.. it dumps me into runlevel 2 with / mounted ro. How do I get it rw ? |
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| 16:20.21 | abrotman | jpinx: mount -o rw,remount / |
| 16:22.36 | jpinx | abrotman: unrecognised mount option "errors-remount-ro" or missing value |
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| 16:24.36 | jpinx | abrotman mount: / not mounted or bad option |
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| 16:25.25 | abrotman | jpinx: you told me it was mounted .. |
| 16:25.42 | jpinx | it is mounter ro |
| 16:26.15 | jpinx | at boot time it mounts ro and Puts me in runlevel 2 |
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| 16:27.11 | jpinx | I need to edit fstab back to original |
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| 16:30.56 | abrotman | jpinx: mount -o rw,remount / |
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| 16:32.43 | jpinx | abrotman: yes. that is what I tried but it stays ro |
| 16:32.59 | jpinx | abrotman: unrecognised mount option "errors-remount-ro" or missing value |
| 16:33.09 | jpinx | abrotman mount: / not mounted or bad option |
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| 16:39.24 | abrotman | jpinx: what does 'mount' say? |
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| 16:42.29 | jpinx | abrotman: mount tells me that /dev/sda5 is mounted ro (byUUID) |
| 16:43.01 | jpinx | errors=continue |
| 16:43.18 | jpinx | barrier=1 |
| 16:43.30 | jpinx | data=ordered |
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| 16:44.26 | jpinx | abrotman: does that mean anything more? |
| 16:45.20 | jpinx | now I am in tty4 logged in as jpinx and running mosh to a remote irssi server |
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| 16:45.29 | jpinx | but I can not get x running |
| 16:45.49 | jpinx | and I need to re-establish fstab to original |
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| 16:52.13 | abrotman | jpinx: monted as what ? |
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| 16:54.38 | jpinx | abrotman: dev/diak/by/uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on / type ext3 (ro,relatime,errors=continue,barrier=1,date=ordered) |
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| 16:55.37 | stark` | hello i just downloaded 3.14 from kernel.org how do i compile it ? i'm using crunchbang linux with 3.2 i486 |
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| 16:56.30 | mtn | !crunchbang |
| 16:56.30 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 16:57.17 | abrotman | jpinx: so it should be able to remount it |
| 16:58.10 | jpinx | abrotman: that was the first thing I tried, but it refuses - even after rebooting into recovery |
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| 16:58.24 | stark` | its just debian + openbox with non-free added |
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| 16:58.48 | mtn | stark`: not supported here |
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| 16:59.08 | stark` | ok then how would i compile it on a debian system ? |
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| 16:59.36 | abrotman | stark`: we do not support crunchbang here, they have thier own support channel |
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| 17:03.36 | krystian442 | if it possible to install on debian wheezy 32bit encrypt partition with ext4 filesystem? |
| 17:03.55 | krystian442 | when i'm tryin' to install I only have ext2 file system option and swap |
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| 17:09.12 | Guest60368 | !ciao |
| 17:09.12 | dpkg | it has been said that ciao is both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter. |
| 17:09.24 | Guest60368 | !list |
| 17:09.24 | dpkg | guest60368: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.5.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 17:10.34 | krystian442 | i will repeat my question: i would like to set encrypted ext4 home partition durning debian wheezy 32bit installation |
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| 17:10.41 | krystian442 | anyone know how to do it? :) |
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| 17:12.37 | lift | krystian442: I think there's a checkbox for encrypting a partition when you do manual partitioning. |
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| 17:12.48 | edju | was having trouble with wireless and thought a different driver for the broadcom would help. i installed brcmsmac and blacklisted b43. however, i lost wlan0 - no wireless whatsoever. iwconfig cmds yield "no such device". pointers? |
| 17:13.16 | krystian442 | lift: yes, but when I check it I can only set ext2 filesystem, not ext4 filesystem |
| 17:13.42 | lift | Are you doing one large root partition? |
| 17:14.02 | krystian442 | only home directory 500GB |
| 17:14.15 | lift | I typically do 100MB /boot, 10G /, and rest to /home |
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| 17:14.46 | krystian442 | i would like to have 1hdd 4gb /swap 60gb / and 2hdd 500gb /home |
| 17:14.51 | lift | krystian442: and it isn't available from the drop down for partition type? Did you tell it to reformat that partition? |
| 17:14.54 | krystian442 | and /home should be ancrypted |
| 17:15.17 | lift | GUI install or ncurses? |
| 17:15.22 | krystian442 | GUI |
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| 17:16.08 | lift | hrm... I just installed debian stable on one of my home servers and I remember having the otpion to flip to ext4 and encrypt. |
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| 17:16.47 | krystian442 | lift: 1) i set up ext4 file system and mount /home (reformat) 2) configure encrypted volumes selected disk, and then my /home mount point changed to swap, wneh i want to change it i only have ext2 and swap option |
| 17:16.58 | krystian442 | lift: did you use 32bit version? |
| 17:18.01 | lift | 64bit |
| 17:18.18 | lift | Your home mount point changes to swap? that can't be right |
| 17:18.20 | krystian442 | yeah, on 64bit I did have that option too.. |
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| 17:18.59 | lift | If it's a limitation of 32-bit Debian, then I'm not sure how much I can help you here without doing it yourself after install. |
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| 17:19.24 | NickMessing | Hello, I just tried "unzip -v backup.zip" but files didn't appear |
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| 17:19.43 | lift | NickMessing: any error message? |
| 17:20.04 | NickMessing | lift, no, everything ok, I saw all files listed because of -v |
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| 17:20.16 | NickMessing | just, nothing visible even with ls -la |
| 17:20.21 | krystian442 | lift: Iknow, thanks, but I'm wondering is it a OS limitation, or just bug? |
| 17:21.00 | lift | http://stolowski.blogspot.com/2011/06/debian-60-encrypting-home-partition.html <-- since it's a fresh install maybe try to do it after install? |
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| 17:21.15 | lift | guide is 6.0 specific but I can't think it's changed that much... |
| 17:21.34 | krystian442 | lift: thanks mate I will try it, |
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| 17:22.42 | lift | NickMessing: try doing "unzip backup.zip -d [destdir]" and check the destdir. Make sure you have write access to that dir as well. |
| 17:22.56 | NickMessing | lift, tried, no success |
| 17:23.03 | NickMessing | lift, tried even from root user |
| 17:23.09 | NickMessing | lift, same result |
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| 17:23.28 | jpinx | abrotman: I've created a copy of the OS, chrooted into it and restored /etc/fstab -- now -- how to make sure that the system will boot the new partition ? |
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| 17:26.01 | NickMessing | lift, thank you, -v was the wrong thing, now it unzips :D |
| 17:26.03 | lift | NickMessing: try -t switch and see if the file is bad? |
| 17:26.07 | lift | Ahhh... |
| 17:26.21 | NickMessing | -v is not verbose here :D |
| 17:26.30 | lift | Yeah |
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| 17:29.42 | buu | Does anyone happen to know of a very simple guide for adding QOS style bandwidth shaping just for traffic coming into a box? |
| 17:31.14 | joltcan | buu: That is pretty complicated. You can start with a look at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.cookbook.ultimate-tc.html while I look for a script I think I have somewhere |
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| 17:31.37 | jaakkos | i doubt that. the traffic shaping settings have more knobs than chernobyl |
| 17:32.11 | jaakkos | which is, thb, ridiculous |
| 17:32.14 | jaakkos | *tbh |
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| 17:33.20 | jaakkos | thogh, having written some traffic shapers myself, i know it is not a straightforward problem |
| 17:33.27 | jaakkos | +u |
| 17:33.45 | musca | !wondershaper |
| 17:33.46 | dpkg | The Wonder Shaper is a script using the traffic shaping features of the Linux kernel to fix some problems, e.g. ensuring downloads continue at full speed while uploads occur at their maximum rate, keeping good interactive response times while bulk transfers are busy. Packaged for Debian, read /usr/share/doc/wondershaper/README.Debian after installation. http://lartc.org/wondershaper/ See also <lartc>. |
| 17:35.20 | joltcan | Yes, wondershaper, that is it! https://github.com/magnific0/wondershaper |
| 17:35.22 | buu | jaakkos: Yes, tc and friends scare me |
| 17:35.24 | joltcan | for an updated one |
| 17:35.44 | joltcan | its a good start until you want to dig into the details |
| 17:36.14 | buu | Gah, so close. What I actually want is to give maximum priority to connections of a specific type |
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| 17:38.02 | jaakkos | buu: you will need to rtfm... you can use iptables to pick the connections you want and mark the packets, then schedule those using the marking in the traffic shaper |
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| 17:39.22 | buu | Yeah =/ |
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| 17:39.36 | jaakkos | buu: there are some user-space shapers as well |
| 17:39.55 | jaakkos | buu: you can run your software "under" them to shape traffic related to that program's sockets |
| 17:39.58 | jaakkos | can't recall the name |
| 17:40.17 | buu | Huh. |
| 17:40.21 | buu | Interesting thought. |
| 17:40.34 | jaakkos | oh, but that doesn't let you prioritize over other connections in the system |
| 17:41.02 | jaakkos | depending on what you're doing it might still be enough. |
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| 17:53.13 | lift | I'm letting pfsense shape all my traffic at the moment. Seems to be doign a good job of it. |
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| 17:56.47 | petn-randall | ingress shaping is a little brain-dead thing to do, but it's the only sensible thing that's achievable if you have a consumer internet connection. |
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| 17:57.22 | jpinx | abrotman: managed to recover :S -- no more messing for tonight |
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| 17:58.04 | debianblast | hi all |
| 17:58.10 | lift | understandable, but when you have P2P and NNTP traffic potentially hogging 100% of your connection, pfsense keeps the rest of things smooth. |
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| 18:07.39 | petn-randall | lift: The only thing you can do with ingress is to decide if you drop it or not. With egress you can decide if it goes in early or late in the queue. |
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| 18:29.43 | donofrio | k I'm folowing each step outlined here http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103723&p=495567&hilit=yaboot&sid=fab5314bfac15a3e32dace177348f242#p495567 but still getting software rendering |
| 18:32.13 | mylar | Hi, is there any known/popular sedoparking malware on linux? |
| 18:33.17 | petn-randall | mylar: Nope. Do you have a Debian installation where you're observing something like that? |
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| 18:33.50 | mylar | I though I just had bad DNS but I just pressed printsceen in KDE and it ran /usr/bin/iceweasel http://sedoparking.com/?path=home |
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| 18:38.47 | mylar | I did not have ksnapshot installed... |
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| 18:43.51 | Iridos | donofrio, which steps are them |
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| 18:45.51 | wols_ | donofrio: and what is the content of Xorg.0.log and output of dmesg |
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| 18:46.10 | ruukasu | I have a package with multiple available versions (jessie and a 3rd party repo, with 3rd party currently installed). How can I choose manually to install the official one instead? |
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| 18:47.03 | formorer | apt-get install package=version or install package/release |
| 18:47.10 | formorer | otherwise: pinning. |
| 18:47.55 | qu | I am happy with the way my system is configured, and it took me a long time to get it that way. But I now need to transfer it from hdd to ssd. |
| 18:48.00 | donofrio | Iridos: blacklist radeon |
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| 18:48.06 | donofrio | but nothing changes glxinfo |
| 18:48.17 | qu | Has anyone su and using it?cceeded in just rsyncing a whole / to another drive |
| 18:48.28 | qu | (check that) |
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| 18:48.53 | qu | Has anyone had success with rsyncing a whole / over to another drive, and successfully using it? |
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| 18:49.09 | ruukasu | formorer, how would that work? |
| 18:49.29 | ruukasu | oh |
| 18:49.30 | ruukasu | like |
| 18:49.41 | ruukasu | [name of package]=[version] |
| 18:49.47 | ruukasu | thought you meant literally package= |
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| 18:50.49 | Iridos | donofrio, might be too late and it's already loaded for some reason... |
| 18:51.32 | Iridos | donofrio, anyway, you *want* the radeon module, you want to blacklist radeonfb or other modules that prevent it from being loaded, no? |
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| 18:53.05 | Iridos | qu, sure... about a decade ago :) I used to use tar/untar over a netcat connection, though |
| 18:53.29 | donofrio | my xorg.log@http://paste.debian.net/102892 |
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| 18:54.36 | qu | Iridos: I don't see why it wouldn't work, and it would save so much time. But these are two key systems. Actually I'm transferring them from hdd to Xen guests. |
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| 18:55.37 | wols_ | donofrio: you cannot blacklist radeon. if you do your driver will not work obviously. if you find a fglrx version for your hardware, then you can and have to. but right now you use radeon as a Xorg driver and the kernel module radeon MUST be loaded and KMS MUST be active |
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| 18:56.15 | formorer | [ 40.495] (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled |
| 18:56.16 | formorer | [ 40.496] (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled |
| 18:56.20 | donofrio | my yaboot@http://paste.debian.net/102893 |
| 18:56.22 | formorer | this looks pretty well |
| 18:57.01 | donofrio | formorer: its the EE parts that concern me |
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| 18:57.38 | Iridos | qu, cannot remember if I did the transfer from a live system or from a rescue disk... but actually I think it should also work from a live system... you just get some weirdly truncated logfiles... and of course you have to just take / and not also /sys /proc and similar things |
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| 18:58.16 | formorer | donofrio: whats the output of glxinfo? |
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| 18:59.39 | donofrio | formorer: paste.debian.net/102784 |
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| 19:00.23 | Iridos | I doubt it :) |
| 19:01.49 | starenka | hi, i haven't tackled my testing for a long time (regarding pm) and it seems acpid events are not executed (at least it seems). im trying to call pm-suspend on lid close. i put a file in /etc/acpi/events (event catched w/ acpi_listen) but it seems not to be run at all. any clue? thanks! |
| 19:01.55 | Iridos | you possibly mean http://paste.debian.net/102894 |
| 19:02.49 | formorer | hmm, ok, the r200 part is complicated. |
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| 19:04.49 | donofrio | yes I''ve spent all weekend on "the effort" |
| 19:05.08 | donofrio | now back to whezzy doing step by step and still missing something |
| 19:05.25 | Iridos | " |
| 19:05.42 | Iridos | "whezzy" |
| 19:05.43 | Iridos | ... |
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| 19:08.26 | petn-randall | starenka: Try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, where testing/sid are supported. |
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| 19:10.21 | starenka | petn-randall: thanks |
| 19:10.37 | petn-randall | starenka: You're welcome! |
| 19:11.06 | starenka | anyway it installing acpi-support seems to solve the problem (my script is not executed, but lid closing triggers suspend, tho) |
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| 19:14.56 | donofrio | formorer: any thoughts? Iridos ? |
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| 19:16.00 | formorer | donofrio: not really. I would have to read a lot about UMS, galeon, mesa and so on. I am not really uptodate in this stuff. I am not using powerpcs for several years now |
| 19:16.03 | Iridos | well, no... except if you count that I think it's more trouble than it's worth... specially if looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/946677 or so |
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| 19:17.06 | Iridos | I mean... it's got direct rendering... that's always been good enough for ME |
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| 19:21.41 | sudormrf | hello guys. I am trying to setup isc-dhcp-server and I believe my conf file is setup correctly, however I get an error when I try to start the service. It tells me "expecting declaration or parameter ddns-update-style interim;" |
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| 19:21.52 | sudormrf | i thought interim was a declaration/paramter |
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| 19:22.35 | sudormrf | any idea why this would be happening? |
| 19:22.36 | phy1729 | sudormrf: does the previous line have a ; ? |
| 19:22.45 | sudormrf | phy1729, this is line 1 :S |
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| 19:23.37 | sudormrf | I have gone over and over this conf file looking for problems and I must be missing something and my assumption is that it is something small |
| 19:23.39 | sudormrf | :X |
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| 19:26.10 | sudormrf | here is the conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/7567826/ |
| 19:26.24 | sudormrf | ignore the site. running debian :D |
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| 19:27.32 | ectospasm | I'm using wheezy and chromium, and I can't get the Java plugin to load. I hear (in #chromium-support) that icedte-plugin doesn't work in chromium >=35, but I'm also finding the official Oracle JRE plugin doesn't work, either. |
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| 19:29.50 | Iridos | judd, versions chromium-browser --arch amd64 |
| 19:29.51 | judd | Package: chromium-browser on amd64 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; wheezy: 34.0.1847.116-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 35.0.1916.114-1~deb7u2 |
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| 19:30.56 | Iridos | ectospasm, hm, I seem to have the 34.0.1847.13 ... and yeah, in that one the icedtea plugin works fine |
| 19:31.18 | ectospasm | I know, I updated to the wheezy-security version by default, and Java stopped working. |
| 19:31.25 | ectospasm | or at least, the plugin did. |
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| 19:31.45 | ectospasm | I'm at a loss on how to downgrade. |
| 19:32.13 | wols_ | ectospasm: erm, downgrading security packages, for java plugin of all things would be a very suicidal thing to do |
| 19:32.17 | Iridos | well, the problem is that your user-config files are being upgraded |
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| 19:32.42 | ectospasm | well, it wouldn't be a downgrade of Java, it'd be a downgrade of chromium, but I get your point wols_ |
| 19:32.54 | wols_ | same thing. |
| 19:33.07 | Iridos | I see what you mean... when I upgrade, it stops working |
| 19:33.15 | wols_ | downgrading a wheezy security update on a program that deals with hostile websites would be foolish to the extreme |
| 19:33.32 | Iridos | wols_, it wouldn''t |
| 19:33.51 | Iridos | depending on what the changes are :) |
| 19:33.55 | wols_ | Iridos: so the security advisory is bogus? |
| 19:34.05 | ectospasm | Why a security update would jump a whole major version number, though, I don't understand. |
| 19:34.06 | temhaa | hi |
| 19:34.45 | temhaa | I'm using tripwire on my debian wheezy machine. tripwire check says "Filename: /var/lib/tripwire/, File could not be decrypted. " |
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| 19:37.18 | temhaa | like that http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/forums/showthread.php/8366-tripwire-trippin |
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| 19:37.57 | Iridos | wols_, which of them should be bogus? |
| 19:38.32 | wols_ | Iridos: any. you suggested the changer aren't important, not me |
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| 19:39.05 | Iridos | wols_, there are multiple CVEs... the ones I check all speak of a "potential denial of service" |
| 19:39.23 | Iridos | wols_, would you agree that one could see a non-working java plugin as a denial of service? |
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| 19:39.38 | wols_ | barely |
| 19:39.47 | Iridos | only if you don't need it |
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| 19:41.41 | esaym153 | ugh, I haven't updated my testing box in about 2 months. I see that it is now trying to install systemd. Are there any issues that I need to be aware of? Or do I just let it update? |
| 19:41.42 | Iridos | so dunno... if there aren't any problems that can cause something more severe than a denial of service.... well, I wouldn't call it "extremely foolish" to trade a couple of potential denial-of-service attacks against a certainty that a service you need stops working |
| 19:41.48 | Iridos | just sayin' |
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| 19:42.24 | wols_ | are you sure it's not a layer 8 problem that the plugin stopped? |
| 19:43.18 | Iridos | ^^ |
| 19:44.05 | Iridos | as it also happened when I upgraded... nope... perhaps layer 10? |
| 19:44.43 | wols_ | maybe chromium stopped supporting the NPlugin interface? |
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| 19:47.29 | Iridos | ectospasm, anyway, just for your enlightment and not for any concrete use... one can install one of several available versions by doing something like: apt-get install chromium-browser=<version> (where <version> is the one shown by judd, 34.0.1847.116-1~deb7u1 in this case) |
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| 19:48.35 | Iridos | high time to go home |
| 19:48.56 | ectospasm | it seems to be working in iceweasel, I'll just need to remember to use that when I want to access that application. |
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| 19:52.17 | Iridos | that, by the way, is the exact reason why in Debian usually security patches are backported to the same version that originally entered any stable release |
| 19:53.23 | average | hey. I have a somewhat weird problem |
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| 19:53.50 | average | so I have this machine with an old kernel right(2.6.34), and I want to install virtualbox-guest-dkms on it |
| 19:54.04 | average | I mean.. it's a vm basically |
| 19:54.30 | Micos | a |
| 19:54.31 | average | so I want to install virtualbox-guest-dkms on it but the vbox-video .ko will not compile |
| 19:54.57 | average | after pondering I realized I don't need that vbox-video .ko (I don't know the full name sorry, I'll come back with it in a couple of minutes) |
| 19:55.18 | average | what can I do to somehow take this thing apart and just throw that away ? the troublesome .ko |
| 19:55.33 | average | I thought about rebuilding virtualbox-guest-dkms |
| 19:55.37 | average | would this be a good way to go ? |
| 19:55.48 | average | (that's what I'm actually trying now, as we speak) |
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| 20:00.17 | Gae | ciao |
| 20:00.20 | Gae | !list |
| 20:00.21 | dpkg | gae: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 20:04.51 | sdes | Hi |
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| 20:13.45 | lucido | hi, I have samba share with create mask = 0770, it's root directory has the perms: drwxrwsr-x , now files are being created with the correct -rwxrw---- permissions but directories get the undesirable drwxr-sr-x perms, why is that? |
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| 20:20.48 | joltcan | lucido: you can use "directory mask = 0775" or whatever you need it to be in smb.conf |
| 20:21.03 | lucido | joltcan, thx |
| 20:21.22 | joltcan | np |
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| 20:39.56 | edju | was having trouble with wireless and thought a different driver for the broadcom would help. i installed brcmsmac and blacklisted b43. however, i lost wlan0 - no wireless whatsoever. iwconfig cmds yield "no such device". pointers? |
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| 20:46.16 | edju | Is this thing on? |
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| 20:51.48 | esaym153 | systemd upgrade complete :) |
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| 20:55.55 | shawnbon206 | yeah |
| 20:56.03 | shawnbon206 | that was easy |
| 20:56.29 | shawnbon206 | literally look 20 seconds. debian ftw |
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| 21:00.37 | temhaa | Does anyone have know about tripwire |
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| 21:04.12 | OsugiSakae | temhaa: what about tripwire? |
| 21:04.31 | temhaa | like that http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/forums/showthread.php/8366-tripwire-trippin |
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| 21:05.40 | Coweatar | i'm trying to set up a color theme in ~/.Xresources, but my xterm seems to ignore statements unless I prefix them specifically for it like "XTerm*color1: #111111", what am i missing? |
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| 21:07.27 | OsugiSakae | I haven't used it in many years, but I don't recall ever getting that error. You've checked the file exists and the command that cron is running is accurate? |
| 21:08.28 | temhaa | OsugiSakae, yes.its true |
| 21:09.06 | temhaa | OsugiSakae, I guess tripwire configuration is false but I dont know exactly |
| 21:10.10 | OsugiSakae | temhaa: yeah, figured. Sorry, but this tripwire problem is beyond me. |
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| 21:11.08 | temhaa | OsugiSakae, nevertheless thanks |
| 21:11.19 | Coweater | i think i found it, there's a file in /etc/X11/app-defaults that sets colors, but those statements aren't show when i do xrdb -query. I guess i have to override them myself |
| 21:11.33 | OsugiSakae | temhaa: np |
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| 21:13.08 | Deesl | abbe: ping |
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| 21:16.15 | kajmak | http://icetelecoms.co.uk/photo/a.exe |
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| 21:20.43 | wols_ | Iridos: btw, yes. chrome/chromium 35 is the first version that lacks NPAPI support. |
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| 21:26.06 | Andrewmm | Hey guys, you can be advertised for free up to 22 million users sign up for free https://www.globallshare.com/en/2002959.html and maybe make some money :D Cheers! |
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| 21:46.36 | hroi | hi |
| 21:46.50 | hroi | Im debugging a mail server issue with my website |
| 21:47.07 | hroi | I want my site to connect securely to the smtp server |
| 21:47.26 | hroi | first, I want to simply test that the smtp service is available securely. |
| 21:47.29 | hroi | I know the port number. |
| 21:47.34 | hroi | and server name |
| 21:47.36 | petn-randall | hroi: Mail servers usually don't connect to web sites. |
| 21:47.39 | petn-randall | !enter |
| 21:47.39 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 21:47.48 | hroi | can I use "ssh" to connect to the server? |
| 21:47.52 | hroi | just to test. |
| 21:48.06 | hroi | petn-randall, yes, sorry, I mean my site connects to the mail server |
| 21:48.13 | petn-randall | hroi: If you want to test incoming SMTP connections, you can use "swaks" for that. |
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| 21:49.45 | hroi | petn-randall, OK. but you know how, I can use "telnet mysevver 25" to test unsecure smtp login |
| 21:49.59 | hroi | petn-randall, I was imagining that there must be an ssh ssl equivalent |
| 21:50.13 | petn-randall | hroi: Yes, "swaks". Did you check it yet? |
| 21:50.49 | hroi | petn-randall, :( it looks great! |
| 21:51.00 | hroi | petn-randall, :( but bluehost doesnt provide this tool |
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| 21:51.46 | petn-randall | hroi: I was assuming you have a Debian installation. If that's not the case, it's not really on topic of this channel. |
| 21:52.13 | hroi | sorry I presumed servers like bluehost would be debian |
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| 21:53.06 | hroi | petn-randall, probably best i go to the gnu-linux channel |
| 21:53.08 | hroi | sorry to bother |
| 21:53.28 | petn-randall | hroi: Yes, in that case try #linux, but swaks is your best bet. |
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| 22:07.18 | str3 | is it a good idea to run openssh from wheezy backports? on wheezy |
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| 22:10.35 | MrFrood | str3: backport issupported by security so should be OK I think |
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| 22:11.17 | str3 | i heard its supported, but maybe not as fast as wheezy main |
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| 22:13.01 | MrFrood | !tell str3 about backport caveat |
| 22:13.21 | str3 | thanks :) |
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| 22:32.34 | LostCat | Hey, can someone help explain to me what backport I should use? nvidia-kernel-3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 or linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 and how can I figure this out on my own in the future (whats some good related reading)? |
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| 22:38.01 | nkuttler | LostCat: check apt-cache show <pkgname> for each |
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| 22:51.38 | LostCat | nkutter: thanks --- xps's are more trouble than they're worth in terms of compatibility T_T |
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| 23:00.03 | jetscreamer | greetings earthlings |
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| 23:03.45 | LostCat | hola |
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| 23:09.41 | doublehp | http://pastebin.com/4V2ft1JT some package missing ? |
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| 23:16.42 | codepython777 | seems like my wheezy install is running exim4/agetty/atd by default - any ideas why? Can i remove them safely? |
| 23:17.00 | abrotman | look at the way they're configured before you remove them |
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| 23:18.27 | codepython777 | abrotman: how can i? |
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| 23:25.04 | floatmastaflex | so, what would be the easiest way to find all files ending in .git? I tried find -name "*.git" but I didn't come up with any results |
| 23:25.50 | zinx | you need to give it a directory to search |
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| 23:26.10 | zinx | e.g., if you want to look in ., do find . -name \*.git |
| 23:26.14 | zinx | or "*.git" whatever |
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| 23:27.06 | Tachyon` | find / -name foo would search everything |
| 23:27.20 | zinx | or attempt to at least ;) |
| 23:27.23 | Tachyon` | find /etc -name foo would probably take less time and if you're not root |
| 23:27.33 | Tachyon` | then searing from the root will flood you with permission denied |
| 23:27.38 | floatmastaflex | so um, is this answer technically wrong then? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28155/find-files-with-certain-extensions |
| 23:28.11 | Tachyon` | no, but that's using regex |
| 23:28.47 | zinx | you still need to supply a list of directories to search |
| 23:28.56 | nkuttler | floatmastaflex: the command you used searches in the current directory only |
| 23:29.07 | floatmastaflex | hm |
| 23:29.10 | Tachyon` | no it doesn't, it searches . and all subdirectories |
| 23:29.14 | floatmastaflex | looks like I don't have a git repo on this machine |
| 23:29.16 | floatmastaflex | good to know |
| 23:29.27 | zinx | floatmastaflex: :x |
| 23:29.27 | nkuttler | Tachyon`: that's what i said |
| 23:29.36 | Tachyon` | no, you said the current directory only |
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| 23:29.46 | nkuttler | only, but recursively of course |
| 23:29.54 | Tachyon` | if it's recursively it's not bloody only |
| 23:30.10 | nkuttler | Tachyon`: find - search for files in a directory hierarchy |
| 23:30.15 | zinx | hmmm i guess GNU find does default to . |
| 23:30.17 | nkuttler | it does that in the current directory only |
| 23:30.22 | nkuttler | i know, reading is hard |
| 23:30.46 | |oop | Harder than you know |
| 23:31.01 | floatmastaflex | where do you guys usually place your git repositories? |
| 23:31.10 | zinx | nkuttler: what you said was not wrong, but it can be interpreted as meaning find -maxdepth 1 |
| 23:31.14 | floatmastaflex | it looks like the git guide suggest /opt/git |
| 23:31.17 | nkuttler | floatmastaflex: i use ~/dev |
| 23:31.32 | zinx | nkuttler: clearly, that's not the intepretation you meant, though :) |
| 23:31.34 | nkuttler | floatmastaflex: for a git server i prefer /srv/git |
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| 23:32.04 | floatmastaflex | hm |
| 23:32.18 | floatmastaflex | I think I will just grab an EC2 micro instance and turn it into my git repo |
| 23:32.33 | zinx | i'm lazy and use github |
| 23:32.46 | floatmastaflex | probably shouldn't put the repo on the same machine as the production site |
| 23:32.58 | zinx | yeah, that would be a bad idea |
| 23:33.26 | floatmastaflex | it's for a private project, but it never hurts to have a little code redundancy |
| 23:33.35 | zinx | i generally have local-only repos (no server) for sites :x |
| 23:33.53 | SlaxXx | I was planning to get ssd but since I want to switch from win to linux and install it as main OS.... should I still get an sdd or my linux will signifiantly be faster only for running linux ? |
| 23:34.06 | floatmastaflex | zinx what do you mean local-only? |
| 23:34.21 | doublehp_ | "uuid/uuid.h missing, libuuid-devel package required" ; which package provides this in Debian ? |
| 23:34.27 | nkuttler | SlaxXx: an ssd certainly will make your system even faster |
| 23:34.28 | zinx | SlaxXx: SSDs are faster than conventional drives no matter what OS you're using |
| 23:34.37 | nkuttler | !tell doublehp_ about apt-file |
| 23:34.44 | Dev0n | hey, is it possible to deny ssh logins by IP only and only allow when trying SSH from a allowed hostname? |
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| 23:34.58 | zinx | floatmastaflex: create repo with 'git init', done. |
| 23:35.07 | SlaxXx | yeah but i'm only using firefox, pidgin, irssi... basically thats pretty much it... |
| 23:35.10 | zinx | floatmastaflex: no remotes |
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| 23:35.46 | floatmastaflex | hm |
| 23:36.07 | floatmastaflex | well that won't work in this case |
| 23:36.13 | floatmastaflex | multiple people are going to be on this project |
| 23:36.27 | PryMar56 | doublehp_, libuuid1 |
| 23:36.50 | zinx | floatmastaflex: yeah you probably want a server for that |
| 23:37.12 | doublehp_ | nkuttler: oh, so nice :) thanks you; really, I did not think there was an official database of all files including not installed ones :) |
| 23:37.14 | Guest97389 | hello, I am trying to use eclipse on unstable but it crashes every time I hover the mouse on java code or during typing and a completion menu pops up. what do I do now? |
| 23:37.20 | floatmastaflex | yeah |
| 23:37.24 | abrotman | codepython777: If you don't know how they are configured, how do you know you don't want them? Do you even know what they do? |
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| 23:37.36 | abrotman | Dev0n: yes |
| 23:38.23 | floatmastaflex | oh |
| 23:38.28 | floatmastaflex | well, there is also github |
| 23:39.05 | doublehp_ | PryMar56: and it's a miss :D => uuid-dev |
| 23:39.29 | Dev0n | abrotman, I take it's done through hosts.allow and deny? in which case, if I point a.x and b.x to the same IP and have only a.x in hosts.allow, then access through ssh would only be allowed from a.x and not b.x or by direct IP? |
| 23:39.30 | doublehp_ | PryMar56: Jessie, is it matters |
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| 23:39.56 | PryMar56 | doublehp_, are you building Xen? |
| 23:40.34 | abrotman | Dev0n: that's one method, yes |
| 23:40.36 | doublehp_ | PryMar56: ZFS from zfsonlinux |
| 23:40.48 | Dev0n | abrotman, what method would you recommend? |
| 23:40.50 | doublehp_ | PryMar56: cause debian official zfs-fuse is too old |
| 23:41.01 | abrotman | Dev0n: that doesn't even make sense .. you have two hostnames with the same IP and you want to allow only one of the hostnames? |
| 23:41.11 | PryMar56 | doublehp_, uuid-dev should cover for ./configure |
| 23:41.12 | Dev0n | abrotman, yes |
| 23:41.50 | doublehp_ | PryMar56: yes, configure was asking for .... uuid/uuid.h |
| 23:41.58 | abrotman | Dev0n: why? |
| 23:41.59 | Dev0n | if I have a domain on b.x, I'm trying to secure myself by not allowing users to SSH from b.x should they port scan and find the alternative ssh port |
| 23:42.05 | SixtyFold | anyone else had a problem with chromium-browser and it telling you to install flash and such since the current sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 23:42.09 | Dev0n | so if I restrict it to secret.a.x |
| 23:42.21 | nkuttler | SixtyFold: on sid? |
| 23:42.21 | Dev0n | then they'd have to figure out the correct domain befor even conntecting |
| 23:42.22 | abrotman | Dev0n: but they have the same IP, they're the same system. |
| 23:42.35 | SixtyFold | nkuttler: yes |
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| 23:42.52 | codepython777 | abrotman: For example: I've exim installed and running as a service. No clue who installed it, or why. Perhaps one of my dependencies. |
| 23:42.53 | Dev0n | of course, which is why I thought it might not be possible because DNS doesn't play in the connection? |
| 23:42.53 | Guest97389 | I get SIGSEGV, problematic frame C ld-linux.so.2, using OpenJDK Runtime Environment (7.0_55-b14) |
| 23:43.02 | nkuttler | SixtyFold: yeah, me too. /msg dpkg debian-next |
| 23:43.07 | Dev0n | abrotman, so once the DNS is resolved then it's all IP, regardless of what subdomain you use, right? |
| 23:43.12 | abrotman | Dev0n: RDNS, yes |
| 23:43.23 | abrotman | dpkg: tell codepython777 about why an mta |
| 23:43.53 | SixtyFold | nkuttler: it says invite only |
| 23:44.08 | Dev0n | cool, I guess the best way abrotman is stich with fail2ban and restrict connectiing ips? |
| 23:44.13 | nkuttler | SixtyFold: oftc irc network, not on freenode |
| 23:44.20 | SixtyFold | ahh |
| 23:44.32 | abrotman | Dev0n: that's by IP, not hostname .. |
| 23:44.36 | |oop | Ho ho ho |
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| 23:44.57 | Dev0n | abrotman, but you can't restrict by connecting hostname if both hostnames are the same IP anyway? |
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| 23:46.00 | abrotman | Dev0n: It would be up to the RDNS I believe .. |
| 23:46.16 | abrotman | codepython777: do you know what atd does? |
| 23:46.37 | codepython777 | abrotman: what i dont know is why an mta was needed - or what i installed that installed it |
| 23:46.41 | codepython777 | is there an easy way to find out? |
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| 23:47.20 | codepython777 | abrotman: Actually your dpkg message explains it very well |
| 23:47.22 | codepython777 | abrotman: thanks. |
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| 23:57.15 | donofrio | anyone know what channel I'd goto to ask about osx things (older osx powerpc like) need jdk1.7 gotta be a way perhaps ibm? |
| 23:57.40 | donofrio | figured I'd go back if I got no 3d video and etc etc..... |
| 23:57.51 | donofrio | buggers though....wanted debian everywhere |
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| 23:58.46 | abrotman | donofrio: /msg alis help |
