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| 00:13.57 | luciousjr | anyone using systemd with a samba server? I have a few samba shares mount at boot in fstab with cifs, but with systemd I get hangs on shutdown/reboot. The message I get during the hang is "A stop job is running for (mountpoint)" |
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| 00:15.50 | HiDeHo | luciousjr: have you asked in #samba |
| 00:16.04 | Nimicitoru | guys. I did ctrl alt f1. how do I exit it ? |
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| 00:16.29 | Brigo | Nimicitoru, crt+f7 |
| 00:16.33 | Brigo | Nimicitoru, crt+f8 |
| 00:16.35 | luciousjr | HiDeHo: No I haven't. I'll try there |
| 00:16.35 | Brigo | or so |
| 00:16.44 | Nimicitoru | ok thnaks |
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| 00:28.30 | Seraf | Hello everyone, I'm using the last official debian image for EC2 (amazon) and get a problem with a route 169.254.0.0 : I got it each 30 minutes and don't know where this route is setup. Seems to be cloudinit, but not sure, didn't found any clues. I have no avahi/zeroconf package installed. Any clues please ? |
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| 00:48.07 | cyberjr | Hi i have a powerpc g5 dual 2.0 and i'd like to install linux on it. I have a few problems: my dvd drive is retired... doesn't work anymore, my Os X install is gone and all i have is open firmware. So here's my question does anyone know if it's possible for me to create a usb stick that is capable of booting in open firmware without having access to an os x installed pc. Thanks in advance |
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| 00:53.10 | ctmjr | srged: did you create an xorg.conf file how create it is close to the bottom of the page |
| 00:53.33 | srged | yeah first time I failed , i did create that |
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| 01:37.18 | iankelling | i'm in the netinstall installer, i switch to a dif vc, then I can't get back to the installer. #6+ are just blank screens. how do I get back? |
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| 01:56.23 | srged | Is it normal for a freshly installed debian to have no sound? |
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| 01:58.35 | iankelling | yes |
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| 02:01.44 | BananaNipples | hey guys, i'm trying to get my dual screen set up working and nothing is working. one screen is a laptop and the other screen is a monitor, any advice on what to do? |
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| 02:10.07 | GrantK | Is there an apt-get-ism that will install whatever parent package that provides a particular missing library? e.g., if I need to have "libpcre.so.3" installed, I can certainly *first* "apt-file search libpcre.so.3" to find that it's sourced from "libpcre3". Is there a single cmd that does it? |
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| 02:13.02 | jpinx | GrantK: apt-get will automagically offer the dependencies required. Why do you need this specific lib if it is not a dependency of something you installed with apt-get ? |
| 02:15.46 | GrantK | jpinx: I've built an app in a cross-build chroot env on a different host. Instead of packaging all the dep libs, I want to move the 'naked' bin to the new maching, exec `readelf` to find the dependent (missing) libs, and do a native/local install of those libs. |
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| 02:16.39 | iankelling | i'm in the netinstall installer, i switch to a dif vc, then I can't get back to the installer. ctrl-alt-f6 brings up a blank screen. any suggestions? |
| 02:16.46 | atari314 | anyone here using apparmor? |
| 02:16.50 | HiDeHo-NZ | hi all i am trying to get adobe flah |
| 02:16.55 | GrantK | jpinx: I have the list of missing libs, I'm simply looking for an efficient, scriptable way to install their parent pkgs when I've just a packaged tarball |
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| 02:17.18 | HiDeHo-NZ | its not in repos and iceweasel wont let me download it from adobe |
| 02:17.19 | m0rd3cai | hideho-nz www.adobe.com |
| 02:17.28 | m0rd3cai | download from website |
| 02:17.45 | m0rd3cai | extract files and place in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 02:17.48 | HiDeHo-NZ | m0rd3cai, um mmmmm iceweasel wont let me |
| 02:17.48 | jpinx | GrantK: sorry - beyond me - you need a different kind of help ;) |
| 02:18.13 | m0rd3cai | it wont let you type www.adobe.com in address bar and click on download flash at the top of the screen? |
| 02:18.17 | HiDeHo-NZ | M0ulin, you man get th tar from the site |
| 02:18.29 | m0rd3cai | not the automated popup screen, that does not work. |
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| 02:19.13 | m0rd3cai | hideho-nz: read this... https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?977-Install-Flash-Player-for-Iceweasel-Firefox-in-3-Simple-Steps |
| 02:19.16 | HiDeHo-NZ | mO`where do i put libflashplayer.so |
| 02:20.17 | sakang | HiDeHo-NZ: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 02:20.19 | m0rd3cai | in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 02:20.26 | HiDeHo-NZ | got it thanks |
| 02:20.29 | ctmjr | HiDeHo-NZ: there is no reason to do it that way just run apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:20.45 | m0rd3cai | does that work in kali too? |
| 02:20.53 | m0rd3cai | its debian 7 wheezy based |
| 02:21.01 | ctmjr | you might have to add non free to your sources list |
| 02:21.21 | m0rd3cai | nope its there :-D |
| 02:21.31 | m0rd3cai | a debian repo? |
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| 02:22.32 | HiDeHo-NZ | ok how do i add my user to the root user list so i can extract the file to the directory needed |
| 02:22.32 | m0rd3cai | i made the mistake of adding debian repos to kali even though its wheezy based and broke the installation everytime |
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| 02:22.50 | m0rd3cai | you can just su |
| 02:23.00 | m0rd3cai | to root then extract file |
| 02:23.11 | HiDeHo-NZ | M0ulin, you should use the kali repos |
| 02:23.17 | HiDeHo-NZ | ok |
| 02:24.23 | sakang | HiDeHo-NZ: or you could just put in ~user/.mozilla/plugins/ |
| 02:24.53 | iankelling | i figured it out. it was in the debian install guide. in the installer, you use left alt + f1, not ctrl alt |
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| 02:25.20 | pipegeek | so, question: under what circumstances can a PID remain in /proc/locks after it has exited? |
| 02:25.39 | pipegeek | well, okay, actually, not a debian question |
| 02:26.58 | sakang | pipegeek: when not using debian? :) |
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| 02:28.52 | pipegeek | sakang: well, no, this is on debian :) It's just more of a general linux question |
| 02:30.05 | pipegeek | sakang: steps to reproduce: 1) use /usr/bin/flock to flock a file and run bash (flock test.lock /bin/bash) 2) look up the pid that is holding the lock for that inode in /proc/locks 3) kill that pid 4) lock is not released, pid remains in /proc/locks, but the process is gone |
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| 02:30.46 | pipegeek | sakang: and this is with recent jessie |
| 02:32.08 | pipegeek | sakang: ah. The parent is dead but the subprocesses continue to hold the lock, which isn't reflected in /proc/locks |
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| 02:33.27 | pipegeek | so, is there a more reliable way to tell who has a lock? |
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| 02:35.38 | HiDeHo-NZ | i keep getting notices that the flash plugin is not installed in the browser |
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| 02:36.40 | HiDeHo-NZ | even though i have moved the libflashplayer.so into /use/lib/mozilla/plugins and also in ~/..mozilla/plugins |
| 02:37.29 | HiDeHo-NZ | iceweasel gives me the error unknown plugin shockwave-flash |
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| 02:38.02 | srged | why my prnt scr, doesnt take any snapshot ? |
| 02:38.11 | ctmjr | HiDeHo-NZ: that is not the right way to do it install it with apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:38.35 | HiDeHo-NZ | ctmj |
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| 02:38.54 | HiDeHo-NZ | ctmjr, the flashplugin-nonfree isn not in synaptic |
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| 02:39.08 | HiDeHo-NZ | cant install i tthat way i believe its no longer available in inux |
| 02:39.26 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: did you use the nonfree repo? |
| 02:39.31 | ctmjr | then add non free to your sources list |
| 02:39.48 | HiDeHo-NZ | blaz0r_, no jut jessie main |
| 02:40.05 | blaz0r_ | just add "non-free" after main |
| 02:40.18 | blaz0r_ | and then apt-get update && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:40.34 | HiDeHo-NZ | does that include all in main as well as non-free |
| 02:40.48 | blaz0r_ | well this includes nonfree packages |
| 02:40.52 | blaz0r_ | you can delete it if u dont want use it after |
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| 02:44.12 | Cyberspirit | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_g0tyaIeE |
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| 02:46.56 | HiDeHo-NZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.07 | blaz0r_ | did you add non-free? |
| 02:47.12 | HiDeHo-NZ | Hi BenNZ |
| 02:47.16 | HiDeHo-NZ | yes |
| 02:47.18 | HiDeHo-NZ | sigh |
| 02:47.27 | BenNZ | HiDeHo-NZ: hello |
| 02:47.37 | HiDeHo-NZ | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main non-free |
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| 02:48.29 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: |
| 02:48.38 | HiDeHo-NZ | yes |
| 02:48.44 | blaz0r_ | add contrib to the repos |
| 02:48.46 | blaz0r_ | then it should work |
| 02:48.54 | HiDeHo-NZ | what do you mean |
| 02:49.01 | blaz0r_ | main non-free contrib |
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| 02:49.20 | blaz0r_ | flashplugin-nonfree is in the contrib repos |
| 02:49.41 | BenNZ | 700 http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ jessie/contrib i386 Packages is from apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:49.53 | blaz0r_ | yep |
| 02:50.01 | blaz0r_ | just tested it |
| 02:50.03 | HiDeHo-NZ | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
| 02:50.04 | blaz0r_ | should work with contrib though |
| 02:50.07 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: thats right |
| 02:50.07 | HiDeHo-NZ | ^ is that it |
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| 02:51.13 | BenNZ | i must admit with nonfree in the name i would have expected it to come from non-free instead contrib |
| 02:51.24 | blaz0r_ | BenNZ: same :-D |
| 02:51.34 | HiDeHo-NZ | Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 02:51.35 | HiDeHo-NZ | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 02:51.35 | HiDeHo-NZ | is only available from another source |
| 02:51.35 | HiDeHo-NZ | E: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate |
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| 02:52.09 | ctmjr | did you do apt-get update |
| 02:52.19 | dvs | he's gone |
| 02:52.19 | blaz0r_ | he probably forgot apt-get update |
| 02:52.24 | blaz0r_ | :x |
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| 02:53.36 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: you forgot apt-get update |
| 02:53.45 | HiDeHo-NZ | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
| 02:53.47 | HiDeHo-NZ | no i did not |
| 02:53.50 | HiDeHo-NZ | o dod that |
| 02:54.03 | blaz0r_ | are you sure? |
| 02:54.10 | HiDeHo-NZ | ues |
| 02:54.11 | blaz0r_ | can you redo it? |
| 02:54.15 | HiDeHo-NZ | i am |
| 02:54.17 | HiDeHo-NZ | shesh |
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| 02:54.29 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: well, it should work then :P |
| 02:54.49 | HiDeHo-NZ | still same error |
| 02:55.06 | HiDeHo-NZ | should i be using the testing repos instead of the jessy main ones |
| 02:55.17 | blaz0r_ | no.. |
| 02:55.19 | dvs | no |
| 02:55.29 | blaz0r_ | it should work, if you added "contrib" to the sources |
| 02:55.31 | blaz0r_ | atleast on my testings |
| 02:55.38 | HiDeHo-NZ | well its not working ok |
| 02:55.48 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: hmmm |
| 02:55.53 | dvs | HiDeHo-NZ: pastebin your sources.list |
| 02:56.21 | HiDeHo-NZ | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
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| 02:56.25 | HiDeHo-NZ | that is wha is in it |
| 02:56.39 | dvs | HiDeHo-NZ: if that is one line then that is wrong. |
| 02:56.43 | soraki | ahh i missed irc chats |
| 02:56.56 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: u forgot to add contrib to the first one |
| 02:56.58 | HiDeHo-NZ | no its 2 lines one for each deb |
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| 02:57.16 | dvs | HiDeHo-NZ: then you don't need the first line. |
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| 02:57.51 | HiDeHo-NZ | !tell HiDeHo help |
| 02:59.14 | HiDeHo-NZ | wonders if you are knowing all this |
| 02:59.31 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: well did u added contrib to the first on? |
| 02:59.34 | blaz0r_ | s/on/one |
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| 02:59.52 | HiDeHo-NZ | again still no tin repos |
| 03:00.01 | HiDeHo-NZ | * not in |
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| 03:00.20 | blaz0r_ | then you did it wrong, can you paste your sources.list place? |
| 03:00.21 | blaz0r_ | please* |
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| 03:01.08 | blaz0r_ | http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 03:01.13 | HiDeHo-NZ | hold on i just thought of something |
| 03:01.31 | HiDeHo-NZ | i am using an arm based version of debian |
| 03:01.38 | HiDeHo-NZ | would that make a difference |
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| 03:01.56 | HiDeHo-NZ | that is the only think i can think of that may be why i cant get things |
| 03:02.00 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: no, just paste your sources.list |
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| 03:02.28 | HiDeHo-NZ | it only contains the 2 deb files deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
| 03:02.36 | HiDeHo-NZ | find if i can |
| 03:02.41 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: delete the first one |
| 03:02.43 | blaz0r_ | and try again |
| 03:02.53 | HiDeHo-NZ | i did still nothing i bvelieve its to do with arm |
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| 03:04.04 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: probably, flashplugin doesnt (exist) at arm |
| 03:04.04 | HiDeHo-NZ | as i said there is no version compiled for debian arm os |
| 03:04.18 | blaz0r_ | https://packages.debian.org/search?arch=arm&keywords=flashplugin-nonfree |
| 03:04.20 | blaz0r_ | gives no results |
| 03:04.21 | HiDeHo-NZ | google it adn it gave me its not there |
| 03:04.27 | HiDeHo-NZ | so what do i do then |
| 03:04.58 | HiDeHo-NZ | i need flash or something |
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| 03:05.55 | Cyberspirit | can i simply download the entire debian 3-DVD repository and disappear into a cave for the next few years? |
| 03:06.05 | dvs | HiDeHo-NZ: gnash is available for arm |
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| 03:06.38 | srged | my prnt/scrn doesnt tae snapshots. what can I do ? |
| 03:06.49 | zykotick9 | Cyberspirit: maybe, but that doesn't contain the entire repo, you'd need to use jigdo (or something-or-other) to get the entire 8 DVD set... |
| 03:06.53 | HiDeHo-NZ | dvs, will gnash work on sites needing adobe flash plugin |
| 03:07.14 | dvs | HiDeHo-NZ: most |
| 03:07.17 | HiDeHo-NZ | srged, what os do you have |
| 03:07.28 | HiDeHo-NZ | will rey |
| 03:07.29 | srged | debian wheezy |
| 03:08.15 | HiDeHo-NZ | dvs is it sudo apt-get install gnash |
| 03:08.25 | dvs | up |
| 03:08.28 | dvs | yup |
| 03:08.35 | zykotick9 | srged: doesn't do anything re:printscreen, but my answer... install scrot ;) good luck. |
| 03:08.43 | blaz0r_ | HiDeHo-NZ: for browser: apt-get install browser-plugin-gnash |
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| 03:09.53 | srged | zykotick9: too fancy for me. I want the standard menthod |
| 03:09.58 | srged | how could I get it work ? |
| 03:11.35 | HiDeHo-NZ | srged, look at your keyboard shortcuts and see if print scrmn is pointing to the screenshot app |
| 03:11.50 | HiDeHo-NZ | srged, that is if you hav a screenshoit app oinstalled |
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| 03:18.24 | srged | whats the sandard screenshot app indebian? |
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| 03:21.26 | LtL | srged: gnome-screenshot for gnome users |
| 03:21.41 | zvz | off |
| 03:21.46 | zvz | whoops |
| 03:22.09 | srged | LtL: I'm LXDE |
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| 03:24.30 | srged | ? |
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| 03:28.24 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 03:28.36 | lenswipe | can someone help me - i seem to have turned desktop recorder on and i cant figure out how to turn it off |
| 03:29.32 | LtL | lenswipe: why not just kill it for now |
| 03:29.50 | lenswipe | LtL, if i knew the command I would |
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| 03:30.26 | lenswipe | LtL, I have this annoying red circle and green thing at the bottom of my screen like this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8FwFuqkmrZg/Trf-Tg91MPI/AAAAAAAAAoU/imeUGVyagQI/s1600/Screenshot+at+2011-11-07+22%253A05%253A51.png |
| 03:30.41 | lenswipe | except on mine the green thing is empty |
| 03:30.45 | LtL | lenswipe: open a terminal do a 'ps aux' spot the program or pid and pkill $PROGRAM or kill PID |
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| 03:31.14 | Cyberspirit | or just run top, find the pid using <> keys and holding down shift |
| 03:31.27 | Cyberspirit | then drop back to terminal and type kill -pid 23839 etc |
| 03:31.30 | lenswipe | LTi dont know what the program is called |
| 03:31.55 | LtL | lenswipe: you should recognize it in the ps output |
| 03:31.56 | lenswipe | Cyberspirit, the only thing i can see in top is chrome and sublime text and stuff (Stuff i recognise) |
| 03:32.16 | lenswipe | LtL, the ps output is huge and i dont actually know what the screen recorder app for debian is called, so how can i? |
| 03:32.22 | Cyberspirit | what desktop environment is that by the way? |
| 03:32.30 | lenswipe | Cyberspirit, gnome shell |
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| 03:32.58 | lenswipe | Cyberspirit, that's not my screenshot btw - just one i googled for "red circle bottom of screen ubuntu" |
| 03:33.01 | lenswipe | I'm on debian but still |
| 03:33.15 | LtL | lenswipe: ps aux shouldn't be too large, you could pipe it to less |
| 03:33.27 | lenswipe | aha |
| 03:33.32 | lenswipe | Ctrl + alt + shift +r got rid of it |
| 03:33.33 | lenswipe | :D |
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| 03:35.37 | glitchedsoulz | I need help installing skype on my debian 64 bit |
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| 03:35.51 | glitchedsoulz | I get a error of This package is uninstallable |
| 03:35.52 | glitchedsoulz | Cannot install 'libqtwebkit4:i386' |
| 03:35.52 | glitchedsoulz | can anyone help me with this |
| 03:36.00 | glitchedsoulz | I was using software installer. |
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| 03:38.02 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: you probably need to add the i386 architecture, e.g. dpkg --add-architecture <arch> |
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| 03:38.48 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: read the wiki about multiarch |
| 03:38.59 | glitchedsoulz | can you tell me the exact command I should do on terminal I am kinda new to debian and linux in general aswell. |
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| 03:40.05 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: become root or use sudo and dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
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| 03:42.20 | glitchedsoulz | like this LtL root@debian:/home/glitchedsoulz# dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
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| 03:42.37 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: yes |
| 03:42.58 | glitchedsoulz | same error ^_^ |
| 03:42.59 | glitchedsoulz | Cannot install 'libqtwebkit4:i386' |
| 03:43.39 | glitchedsoulz | wait I might be able to fix this |
| 03:44.05 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: run apt-get update |
| 03:45.01 | glitchedsoulz | ok |
| 03:46.17 | glitchedsoulz | still showing up LtL |
| 03:46.17 | glitchedsoulz | Cannot install 'libqtwebkit4:i386' |
| 03:46.41 | zykotick9 | !skype |
| 03:46.41 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian cannot distribute the application due to its license. See http://wiki.debian.org/skype and ask me about <skype amd64>, <skype squeeze> for community-contributed information. Consider using free and secure alternatives: <ekiga>, <empathy>, <jitsi>, <linphone>. |
| 03:46.47 | glitchedsoulz | let use a different package manager |
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| 03:47.12 | glitchedsoulz | same error |
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| 03:48.09 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: are you trying to install skype? |
| 03:48.18 | glitchedsoulz | yes |
| 03:48.39 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: read the link zykotick9 just posted |
| 03:48.42 | glitchedsoulz | I am using 64 bit debian 7.5.0 |
| 03:48.53 | glitchedsoulz | kk |
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| 03:49.17 | glitchedsoulz | all he wrote is !skype |
| 03:49.28 | blaz0r_ | glitchedsoulz: https://wiki.debian.org/skype |
| 03:49.39 | glitchedsoulz | oh nvm |
| 03:50.17 | zykotick9 | skype - 'cause the NSA doesn't have enough means of spying... |
| 03:50.22 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: well, dpkg actually posted the link, zykotick9 triggered it |
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| 04:01.28 | glitchedsoulz | ugh |
| 04:01.28 | glitchedsoulz | not working |
| 04:01.30 | glitchedsoulz | still having problems |
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| 04:03.59 | glitchedsoulz | I will show what I did on pastebin |
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| 04:05.00 | glitchedsoulz | http://pastebin.com/B9eSegrV |
| 04:05.01 | glitchedsoulz | there |
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| 04:12.37 | glitchedsoulz | hello can anyone help me with this problem I am having installing skype |
| 04:12.38 | glitchedsoulz | http://pastebin.com/B9eSegrV |
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| 04:17.06 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: this might help, https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libqtwebkit4 |
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| 04:22.59 | LtL | glitchedsoulz: you should be able to apt-get install libqtwebkit4, thats what seems to be holding you up. |
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| 04:42.15 | leffeg | Hello, i have a question about ipv6 privacy extension in 3.12.20+ |
| 04:44.13 | leffeg | After upgrading my raspberry pi the /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/use_tempaddr is not available any more... |
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| 04:45.11 | leffeg | The ipv6 module date is jun 1 |
| 04:45.17 | leffeg | Is this a bug? |
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| 04:46.36 | peterrooney | leffeg: no-one here knows, try #raspbian |
| 04:47.33 | leffeg | ok, sorry :-) |
| 04:47.42 | Dagger | or, if it's the official foundation builds, the official forums |
| 04:47.58 | Dagger | since Raspbian don't provide those... |
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| 05:00.43 | peterrooney | leffeg: NP. |
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| 05:14.20 | Streusel | Why is mailx better than regular clients? can't get my head around that.. |
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| 05:15.08 | sandman13 | so gnuTLS has been patched... |
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| 06:14.45 | ChrisH | I would like to state, prefered LAN over WLAN over WWAN by default. Manually override possible. But I did not yet find such an option. |
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| 06:31.15 | Seraf | Hello everyone, I'm using the last official debian image for EC2 (amazon) and get a problem with a route 169.254.0.0 : I got it each 30 minutes and don't know where this route is setup. Seems to be cloudinit, but not sure, didn't found any clues. I have no avahi/zeroconf package installed. Any clues please ? |
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| 06:50.43 | zykotick9 | debian has an "official" image for amazon's EC2? I find this hard to believe... |
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| 06:52.07 | superlinux-hp | themill, hi. hoping you're there at your desk. |
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| 06:54.07 | superlinux-hp | well I can ping and ping can resolve host names, but I cannot browse the web. |
| 06:54.11 | RickyB98 | how do i get the server version of debian from the website? i can only download the desktop one, the on with the gui interface. i want the one without it, like for ubuntu, is that possible? |
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| 06:54.44 | zykotick9 | RickyB98: there is no server/desktop distiction - they are the same... use netinst then install only what you want. |
| 06:54.45 | ChrisH | RickyB98: simply do not select Desktop and there you are. AFAIK there is no extra server version |
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| 06:55.12 | RickyB98 | zykotick9, where does that appear? on the first install? |
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| 06:55.40 | zykotick9 | RickyB98: netinst is a small iso, separate from cd1 or dvd1 |
| 06:55.52 | superlinux-hp | RickyB98, is this what you want : cat /etc/issue ? |
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| 06:56.03 | RickyB98 | i downloaded netinst |
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| 06:56.13 | superlinux-hp | try my command |
| 06:56.16 | RickyB98 | superlinux-hp, i don't think so.. |
| 06:56.33 | superlinux-hp | this is the distro version |
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| 06:58.55 | zykotick9 | superlinux-hp: fyi, "lsb_release -sd" will give a more accurate answer than your "cat /etc/issue" suggestion - and it's certainly not what RickyB98 was looking for. |
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| 06:59.26 | superlinux-hp | zykotick9, ok. clear. |
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| 06:59.53 | Cyberspirit | whats the name of a remote keyboard/screen interface which will allow me to cheaply control a computer remotely over a network? |
| 07:00.06 | superlinux-hp | sorry that this is how I understood the question. |
| 07:00.07 | Cyberspirit | and interface to a computer remotely via usb/vga |
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| 07:00.48 | Cyberspirit | i'll ask in #networking |
| 07:02.12 | TheQuestionmark | Greetings, humans! |
| 07:02.19 | RickyB98 | urm.. so i press enter on "Install" and it blocks :\ |
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| 07:03.35 | Cyberspirit | kvm over ip |
| 07:04.54 | superlinux-hp | Cyberspirit, use VNC |
| 07:04.54 | superlinux-hp | Cyberspirit, use and you may try teamviewer service |
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| 07:06.14 | RickyB98 | i loaded the iso of the netinst, pressed Enter on Install, but it blocks. doesn't let me go ahead. |
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| 07:07.56 | RickyB98 | could it be the cd is corrupted? |
| 07:08.40 | Cyberspirit | no more than likely bios or motherboard/graphics card |
| 07:08.56 | RickyB98 | i'm using virtualbox |
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| 07:09.07 | Cyberspirit | then its the virtual machine doing it |
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| 07:13.17 | superlinux-hp | RickyB98, use the command `md5sum isofile.iso` to tell you if it's corrupted |
| 07:13.31 | RickyB98 | oh, ok thanks |
| 07:13.49 | superlinux-hp | match it with the strings on the download string |
| 07:13.56 | superlinux-hp | RickyB98, ok? |
| 07:14.13 | RickyB98 | not really, my mac doesn't ahve md5sum |
| 07:14.23 | superlinux-hp | match it with the strings on the download page. there is a file for them |
| 07:14.27 | RickyB98 | i'll update virtualbox first |
| 07:14.30 | RickyB98 | let's see what happens.. |
| 07:15.02 | superlinux-hp | RickyB98, why don't you install macports on mac? |
| 07:15.11 | RickyB98 | macports? |
| 07:15.13 | RickyB98 | what's that? |
| 07:15.14 | superlinux-hp | it gives all open source apps running natively |
| 07:15.30 | superlinux-hp | let me show you |
| 07:15.43 | RickyB98 | ok |
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| 07:16.42 | superlinux-hp | RickyB98, just google the project. |
| 07:16.53 | superlinux-hp | the web is off @ my side |
| 07:17.03 | RickyB98 | ok |
| 07:17.05 | RickyB98 | thanks :-) |
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| 07:19.08 | superlinux-hp | RickyB98, you'll end up having apt-get like on Mac for free-open source apps |
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| 07:20.03 | superlinux-hp | RickyB98, have you ever tried FreeBSD? MacPorts has almost the same system t install apps. |
| 07:20.33 | Cyberspirit | spooky |
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| 07:29.26 | RickyB98 | which are the correct settings to run debian in a virtual machine? |
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| 07:29.56 | Cyberspirit | google knows but i forget what i told it |
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| 07:30.21 | Cyberspirit | been a while since i ran deb in vm |
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| 07:31.01 | peetaur2 | RickyB98: settings of which kind? it should just run ... |
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| 07:31.33 | peetaur2 | RickyB98: with kvm, you can probably pick any hw settings, such as virtio net and disk, however much ram, disk space, and cpu you want |
| 07:32.05 | peetaur2 | (with any linux, virtio seems flawless) |
| 07:32.18 | RickyB98 | ok, everything working :-) |
| 07:32.23 | RickyB98 | i recreated the vm |
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| 07:33.11 | RickyB98 | that was somehow broken.. |
| 07:33.27 | Cyberspirit | yeah vm software can be a mongrel like that |
| 07:33.30 | Cyberspirit | try other software if you can |
| 07:34.05 | peetaur2 | I've also used vbox a bunch with very few issues ... what are you using? |
| 07:34.47 | RickyB98 | when am i gonna choose whether to install desktop or not? |
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| 07:36.06 | Cyberspirit | debian is pretty broken in that regard |
| 07:36.17 | Cyberspirit | i would follow a tutorial |
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| 07:36.51 | mjt | broken in what regard? |
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| 07:40.18 | mjt | RickyB98: that question (correct settings to run in a vm) makes almost no sense. It is somewhat like asking "what are the correct settings to run on this PC" -- debian runs on most current machiens out of the box without any additional settings, and it isn't clear at all settings of _what_ you have in mind. |
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| 07:40.23 | Cyberspirit | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html |
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| 07:41.06 | RickyB98 | mjt with other systems such as windows [booooo] you need other settings than the default ones, hence i was asking :-) |
| 07:41.15 | Cyberspirit | mjt: no clear cut menu feature which will install a very nice desktop on any debian install at the time of installation without having to have constant access to the internet to download every single little package that is required to make it happen |
| 07:41.19 | mjt | RickyB98: such as? |
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| 07:41.34 | themill | Cyberspirit: what does that actually mean? |
| 07:41.44 | Cyberspirit | mjt: i needed fast internet access, and when i attempted a desktop install on debian it took 2 days vs 2 hours for ubuntu |
| 07:41.46 | themill | (and yes, you can install debian without an internet connection) |
| 07:41.47 | RickyB98 | urm.. i don't remember, coz i always followed tutorials for windows |
| 07:41.54 | RickyB98 | but there where some customizations to do in the settings |
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| 07:41.56 | Cyberspirit | mjt: i dont have fast internet access, not all of the time anyway |
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| 07:42.28 | Cyberspirit | even 10mbit dsl is too slow for a debian desktop installation to complete in 1 day |
| 07:42.30 | mjt | heh. Install a Very Nice Desktop (tm) |
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| 07:42.37 | themill | Cyberspirit: eh? that's nonsense. |
| 07:42.43 | Cyberspirit | no its not |
| 07:42.53 | Cyberspirit | it has some credence |
| 07:43.05 | mjt | RickyB98: I installed many different systems in many different VMs, and I haven't seen any "special" settings |
| 07:43.11 | RickyB98 | my internet connection is so crap .-. takes ages to install |
| 07:43.14 | themill | umm... it is. You can install debian without any network connection at all. |
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| 07:43.34 | Cyberspirit | themill you can install debian without internet access yes but not a decent desktop like what ubuntu has on a single 650mb cd |
| 07:43.42 | Cyberspirit | thats what i mena |
| 07:43.43 | themill | Cyberspirit: not true. |
| 07:43.43 | Cyberspirit | mean |
| 07:43.46 | RickyB98 | mjt, i can find a tutorial if you want, but my problem was solved on the moment you said "no customization is needed" :-) |
| 07:43.49 | mjt | RickyB98: if you mean drivers for virtual hardware - such as virtio-net in qemu - the situation in there is exactly the same as with any other drivers, virtual or not |
| 07:43.49 | RickyB98 | thanks ^.^ |
| 07:43.50 | Cyberspirit | themill not easily? |
| 07:43.57 | themill | Cyberspirit: trivially. |
| 07:43.59 | formorer | wrong. |
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| 07:44.03 | Cyberspirit | how then? |
| 07:44.06 | formorer | just download cd1 with gnome/kde/xfce |
| 07:44.07 | RickyB98 | no, that was not about the drivers.. |
| 07:44.18 | Cyberspirit | thats what i did |
| 07:44.27 | RickyB98 | was about the EFI shizzem.. |
| 07:44.30 | Cyberspirit | and i selected to install a desktop and it downloaded for a day |
| 07:44.36 | RickyB98 | but i don't remember precisely |
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| 07:44.45 | formorer | Cyberspirit: then you didn't downloaded the right cd1 |
| 07:44.51 | Cyberspirit | mmm |
| 07:44.53 | mjt | RickyB98: one other possibility is to install one or another guest agent so, for example, cut-n-paste between host and vm works. |
| 07:44.54 | formorer | there are special cds for kde, gnome, xfce. |
| 07:44.55 | jmcnaught | Cyberspirit: i have 7mbit DSL and I can install Debian in under an hour. Also if you're installing Debian all the time, you can use something like apt-cacher-ng on your network to speed things up. |
| 07:44.57 | themill | Cyberspirit: if you had downloaded the right CD1 then there would be nothing for the installer to download. |
| 07:44.58 | RickyB98 | it can't take 30 mins to download 9 small files >.< |
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| 07:45.14 | RickyB98 | mjt, that's something i'm gonna try to do |
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| 07:45.25 | RickyB98 | but seems hard since i want no desktop |
| 07:45.31 | RickyB98 | i'm js gonna ssh into the vm |
| 07:45.45 | Cyberspirit | please point me to this 'special cd' |
| 07:46.00 | Cyberspirit | i'd like to install deb on my laptop here |
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| 07:46.10 | mjt | RickyB98: there's another set of settings in there - you configure the VM first, choosing which devices/firmware/etc to emulate. But it has nothing to do with "correctness" - it is the same as getting the hardware you actually need - be it hdds, memory, cpu, efi or bios etc etc. |
| 07:46.28 | RickyB98 | ok :-) |
| 07:46.33 | themill | Cyberspirit: debian.org/CD |
| 07:46.35 | RickyB98 | learned a lesson ^.^ |
| 07:46.38 | AlexPortable | what is the irc channel for openvpn? |
| 07:47.00 | mjt | AlexPortable: I thought it's #debian not google? :) |
| 07:47.02 | RickyB98 | AlexPortable, tried #openvpn ? |
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| 07:47.22 | RickyB98 | not all topics have a chan.. |
| 07:47.30 | Cyberspirit | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 07:47.35 | Cyberspirit | ok now point me to the special cd in this list |
| 07:47.35 | milligan | Hey! If I create the same user with the same password on two machines, will the hash in /etc/shadow be equal on both machines? (i.e can I confirm the passwords match by comparing the hash?) |
| 07:47.46 | Cyberspirit | now that i've finally gotten through to the right area |
| 07:47.46 | AlexPortable | RickyB98: don't think that's the one: You’ve been banned from #openvpn |
| 07:47.53 | themill | Cyberspirit: what do you mean "special cd" |
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| 07:48.06 | phyl729 | milligan: not if salts are used |
| 07:48.07 | RickyB98 | i'm not banned |
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| 07:48.18 | RickyB98 | AlexPortable |
| 07:48.21 | Cyberspirit | well if i choose CD-1.iso it wont have the desktop on it will it? so i'll have to choose one which comes with a desktop |
| 07:48.22 | RickyB98 | are you using a webchat? |
| 07:48.38 | Cyberspirit | which is the one i've been choosing for the last 10 years btw |
| 07:48.47 | Cyberspirit | CD-1 is the one i've always grabbed |
| 07:48.47 | themill | AlexPortable: use a real irc client |
| 07:48.51 | milligan | phy1729, I wouldn't know. I didn't create the users. So in reality, there is no way for me to check if the passwords are the same ? |
| 07:48.53 | RickyB98 | yuppi 30 secs remaining ^.^ |
| 07:48.59 | themill | Cyberspirit: which desktop are you actually asking about? |
| 07:49.06 | Cyberspirit | thats the thing |
| 07:49.15 | mjt | heh. "Nice Desktop(tm)" :) |
| 07:49.17 | Cyberspirit | i'm a windows user, i dont keep up on the latest thing, whats the best one? |
| 07:49.27 | themill | Cyberspirit: the one you like. |
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| 07:49.33 | Cyberspirit | kde, lxde, xfce |
| 07:49.46 | Cyberspirit | is xfce even a desktop? thats the question i ask |
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| 07:49.53 | jelly-home | Cyberspirit: it is. |
| 07:50.09 | Cyberspirit | suprised me, xfce sounded like a strange and obscure package name |
| 07:50.13 | Cyberspirit | ok i'll get kde |
| 07:50.21 | Cyberspirit | seeing as it reminds me of the desktop that i used 10 years ago |
| 07:50.25 | Cyberspirit | on mandrake |
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| 07:50.44 | RickyB98 | AlexPortable, seems like *!*@gateway/web/* is banned on #openvpn |
| 07:51.35 | Cyberspirit | thats what i mean when debian hasnt got a refined desktop install process |
| 07:51.51 | themill | Cyberspirit: you're making it more complicated than it is. |
| 07:51.52 | Cyberspirit | all of that bullshitting around has been replaced in ubuntu with a single link on the ubuntu website |
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| 07:51.57 | RickyB98 | mjt, http://puu.sh/9fSjP/579163b1c1.png should be good, right? |
| 07:52.19 | mjt | good for what? |
| 07:52.26 | RickyB98 | dsm :-) |
| 07:52.27 | AlexPortable | themill: name any irc server that runs on port 80 or 443, or tell my IT department to open IRC ports in the firewall |
| 07:52.36 | AlexPortable | RickyB98: do you happen to know why this is? |
| 07:52.45 | Cyberspirit | themill: newbiness and the associated anxiety that comes with the installation of a new OS is exactly what will put people off from trying it out, look at me i've been using linux for 10 years and for the last 2 years have considered abandoning debian because i didn't even know debian had a desktop distribution available |
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| 07:52.47 | RickyB98 | noup :\ |
| 07:52.56 | Cyberspirit | but now i know that it does |
| 07:53.09 | RickyB98 | i js gotta go, nice talk guys, talk to you soon ^.^ |
| 07:53.23 | themill | Cyberspirit: a new user wouldn't have made a pile of incorrect assumptions about debian... or would have asked google. |
| 07:53.23 | Cyberspirit | i ASSUMED in my right mind that the kde and other ones as listed there were for specific purposes, like for example development of the kde desktop or something |
| 07:53.37 | themill | does it say "kde development"? |
| 07:53.37 | Cyberspirit | yes they wouldve |
| 07:53.43 | Cyberspirit | no it doesnt |
| 07:53.47 | Cyberspirit | it doesnt say kde desktop either |
| 07:53.51 | Cyberspirit | so whats your point? |
| 07:54.00 | formorer | debian doesn't have a desktop distribution. |
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| 07:54.12 | b0ngz | yes it does |
| 07:54.13 | themill | Cyberspirit: did you look at the CD FAQ at the point where you had questions about CDs? |
| 07:54.13 | Cyberspirit | and thats what i kept on hearing for the last 2 years |
| 07:54.13 | b0ngz | debian does |
| 07:54.15 | formorer | no. |
| 07:54.22 | b0ngz | yes it does, yes it does |
| 07:54.25 | formorer | no. |
| 07:54.29 | formorer | b0ngz: tell me where. |
| 07:54.30 | b0ngz | debian-desktop-x64 |
| 07:54.33 | b0ngz | .iso |
| 07:54.34 | Cyberspirit | debian doesnt have a desktop distribution so therefore i shouldnt download this strange and mysterious kde iso |
| 07:54.34 | b0ngz | bro |
| 07:54.36 | Cyberspirit | from the mirror |
| 07:54.47 | Cyberspirit | anyway you guys got my point |
| 07:54.52 | peetaur2 | I'm with the yes men on this one. I installed a debian and ended up with ugly gnome, which sounds like desktop to me. |
| 07:54.53 | formorer | this are the same packages available as in debian |
| 07:54.53 | themill | and did you look at the CD FAQ at the point where you had questions about CDs? |
| 07:55.00 | formorer | they are just bundled on one cd. |
| 07:55.02 | AlexPortable | themill: the reason i want vpn is because of this reason |
| 07:55.08 | shingouz | leans back and grabs the popcorn |
| 07:55.11 | b0ngz | chuckles |
| 07:55.13 | formorer | this is not what one would call a distribution |
| 07:55.13 | themill | AlexPortable: there's not much we can do about that. |
| 07:55.15 | Cyberspirit | themill: theres a cd faq? |
| 07:55.38 | themill | Cyberspirit: and there's even a link to it from the pages that describe the CDs. |
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| 07:55.47 | Cyberspirit | https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
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| 07:55.49 | Cyberspirit | i dont see it anywhere |
| 07:55.50 | AlexPortable | is there an openvpn gui available for debian? |
| 07:55.53 | Cyberspirit | just some links to howtos |
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| 07:56.02 | formorer | AlexPortable: client or server management? |
| 07:56.04 | Cyberspirit | i'm a nervous linux installer, im not going to know what a FAQ is or why i should care |
| 07:56.07 | AlexPortable | server |
| 07:56.26 | formorer | not really. |
| 07:56.35 | themill | Cyberspirit: so you wouldn't even try reading them when you have questions. Good job. |
| 07:56.39 | AlexPortable | that sucks |
| 07:56.40 | formorer | there is gadmin, but I wouldn't call this a good management tool |
| 07:56.52 | AlexPortable | the commandline has too many options like 'cert this, x that' |
| 07:57.01 | Cyberspirit | here it is |
| 07:57.01 | formorer | AlexPortable: tbh beside from debian, I am not aware of a proper management tool |
| 07:57.02 | Cyberspirit | https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ |
| 07:57.06 | Cyberspirit | at the very bottom of the page |
| 07:57.10 | Cyberspirit | in a tiny teeny little link |
| 07:57.14 | themill | Cyberspirit: and at the top. And on the sides. |
| 07:57.16 | Cyberspirit | took me a while |
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| 07:57.23 | Cyberspirit | lol |
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| 07:57.29 | Cyberspirit | you really expect people to find and click on that |
| 07:57.31 | themill | Cyberspirit: well perhaps more reading of that and less hitting <enter> would help. |
| 07:57.34 | Cyberspirit | facepalms |
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| 07:57.42 | Cyberspirit | no i'm good with enter |
| 07:57.48 | Cyberspirit | me and enter are good friends |
| 07:57.48 | petn-randall | Cyberspirit: We assume people can read, and know how to navigate web pages. That's also our user target. |
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| 07:58.03 | formorer | Cyberspirit: instead of complaining, sending patches would be a lot of better. |
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| 07:58.17 | themill | Cyberspirit: really, please just focus on solving real problems rather than annoying everyone. |
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| 07:58.29 | mjt | at least suggesting how it can / should be |
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| 08:06.17 | anddam | I have two Debian hosts, I have to periodically copy a file from host A to host B and I'd like to provide the program on A the minimum amount of permissions needed. What's a reasonable way? |
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| 08:07.13 | anddam | I was thinking about creating a user U on host B with nologin and then use scp with authorized_keys |
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| 08:08.02 | petn-randall | anddam: Is the network between those hosts trusted? Do the files have to have certain permissions or owners? |
| 08:08.06 | anddam | the point is putting A's key in B's authorized_keys is very loose in terms of security |
| 08:08.30 | truexfan81 | two guesses who just switched back to debian |
| 08:08.32 | anddam | petn-randall: the network is internet, the file can be pretty much what I need them to be |
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| 08:08.55 | anddam | truexfan81: first guess John Bon Jovi |
| 08:09.07 | truexfan81 | nope |
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| 08:09.19 | truexfan81 | me |
| 08:09.19 | anddam | then it's obviously someone's cat |
| 08:09.22 | anddam | oh |
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| 08:09.39 | anddam | petn-randall: what were you thinking about? |
| 08:09.49 | truexfan81 | i went to fedora for awhile, finally got tired of them not fixing bugs, switched back to debian |
| 08:10.15 | anddam | ahh the true spirit of open source |
| 08:10.26 | truexfan81 | lol yep |
| 08:10.40 | truexfan81 | anddam: and the freedom of choise |
| 08:10.45 | truexfan81 | choice* |
| 08:10.47 | jelly-home | mumbles something about #debian-offtopic |
| 08:10.49 | anddam | that was sarcasm, you should have provided patches |
| 08:10.56 | anddam | jelly-home: got it |
| 08:11.04 | truexfan81 | goes to #debian-offtopic |
| 08:11.18 | anddam | anyone about my copy-with-least-security-issue problem? |
| 08:11.44 | petn-randall | anddam: I'd also use rsync/scp over ssh, but you'll either have to have A's key in B's authorized_keys and push the files, or the other way around and pull them. |
| 08:12.43 | anddam | ok, to minimize risks I'm creating an user with login shell set to false and will put it in a group with the process that has to read the copied files |
| 08:12.50 | anddam | does it sound reasonable? |
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| 08:13.34 | rryoumaa | anddam: seriously silly suggestion, and probably of no value, but email or a pastebin or something might work in some edge cases |
| 08:13.49 | jelly-home | anddam: instead of scp, use sftp; it can be chrooted and does not require a working login shell (or any sort of login shell replacement like scponly) |
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| 08:14.26 | anddam | rryoumaa: I don't think that'll fit my case |
| 08:15.01 | thid | anddam: in your case I'd probably use: python -m SimpleHTTPServer |
| 08:15.42 | anddam | thid: and the POST or so? |
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| 08:16.07 | anddam | jelly-home: I was more toward ssh because it's already there and I know how it works, I'll check SFTP |
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| 08:16.23 | aborrero | hi there |
| 08:16.24 | thid | host B will download from host a |
| 08:16.48 | thid | with some crontabing you run the webserver only when needed |
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| 08:17.40 | thid | and a crontab on host a to go download the file at the right moment |
| 08:17.45 | thid | you sync them |
| 08:18.00 | thid | on host b* |
| 08:18.42 | thid | you could also have a look at this script: http://stackp.online.fr/?p=28 |
| 08:18.45 | anddam | thid: A is behind a network, B is on internet so A can easily reach B but not vice-versa |
| 08:18.57 | anddam | also I don't like this solution very much |
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| 08:20.05 | thid | okay then, you can do an upload from host a to b with droopy.py |
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| 08:22.26 | Togusa | i have a debian machine running a debian virtual machine; anyone willing to help me assign one of the additional IPs i have directly to the VM? I can get it to work easily if i use a VZ container + venet, but i need a VM |
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| 08:22.33 | thid | and with they ara parameters for ssl, authentification, and files permission |
| 08:23.13 | thid | with drropy there is parameters for ssl, authentification, and files permission |
| 08:23.19 | thid | droopy* |
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| 08:25.03 | petn-randall | anddam: jelly-home has a good point about scponly, I'd go with that. I just remembered that it was the exact same thing I came up with as I had a similar problem to solve. ;) |
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| 08:32.45 | jmcnaught | is scponly in wheezy? |
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| 08:33.42 | anddam | seems it's not |
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| 08:35.25 | formorer | it was at some time in the past |
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| 08:36.08 | formorer | anddam: you can do the same just with sshd |
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| 08:37.27 | Iridos | dpkg, tell jmcnaught about apt-file |
| 08:37.47 | Iridos | jmcnaught, supposing it's the name of the command |
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| 08:38.03 | formorer | jmcnaught: you can do the same just with sshd |
| 08:38.45 | Iridos | oh, actually... seems we got a separate factoid for it |
| 08:38.47 | Iridos | dpkg, scponly |
| 08:38.48 | dpkg | scponly is a restricted shell limiting user access to OpenSSH applications (scp, sftp). It can optionally operate chrooted, which requires a chroot jail for the user to be established; see /usr/share/doc/scponly/README.Debian and Debian bug #551868. http://sublimation.org/scponly/wiki/index.php/FAQ http://sublimation.org/scponly/wiki/ Removed from Debian post-Squeeze to resolve bug #650590. See also <rssh>. |
| 08:38.58 | anddam | formorer: can you provide any further hint? |
| 08:39.00 | anddam | what should I be looking for? |
| 08:39.05 | formorer | anddam: sure. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Cookbook/SFTP#SFTP-only_Accounts |
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| 08:39.21 | Iridos | ...which is a bit outdated, as the package is gone and it still references /usr/share/doc/scponly/README.Debian |
| 08:39.26 | jmcnaught | Iridos: thanks i use apt-file all the time actually but when i couldn't find scponly i didn't want to authoratively state it wasn't there |
| 08:39.45 | formorer | http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/scponly/news/20120123T220919Z.html |
| 08:40.24 | Iridos | jmcnaught, the bug is at bugs.debian.org/650590 |
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| 08:40.52 | jmcnaught | Iridos: thanks.. i don't need scponly i was just bringing it up because it had been suggested to anddam by someone else |
| 08:40.53 | Iridos | formorer, or there :) |
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| 08:41.38 | Cyberspirit | themill: i took a look through that faq, nowhere does it mention any desktop environment |
| 08:41.50 | Cyberspirit | themill: might want to keep that in mind next time you vow me to read the faq |
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| 08:47.32 | Cyberspirit | I also don't see where I can contribute or edit that page |
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| 08:49.02 | anddam | thanks, I didn't know openssh provided SFTP |
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| 08:51.05 | Cyberspirit | To report a problem with the web site, e-mail debian-www@lists.debian.org. |
| 08:51.07 | Cyberspirit | there we go |
| 08:51.11 | Cyberspirit | thanks for nothing i guess |
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| 08:52.28 | Iridos | !next |
| 08:52.29 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 08:53.37 | moarrr | :) |
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| 08:55.44 | AlexPortable | trying to start openvpn server |
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| 09:02.27 | mousa | is it possible to keep more than one desktop environments, e.g. want to use both kde and gnome |
| 09:02.48 | Nik05 | yes |
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| 09:03.54 | Iridos | mousa, not at the same time, but else, sure :) |
| 09:04.32 | Iridos | I mean, you can of course have both installed and alternate between them |
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| 09:09.14 | msrd0 | mousa: you could only use one for xsession, but you can use gnome while kde, eg running kdm session but launching gnome-system-monitor is possible |
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| 09:09.51 | mousa | Iridos, yes that's what I meant. In fact there used to be like this in old days of red hat or mandrake where multiple environments came pre-installed ... well in some distros |
| 09:10.24 | jelly | petn-randall: umm, I said I would _not_ go with scponly! |
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| 09:11.30 | mousa | msrd0, I just need an option to chose which environment I wish to use before logging in and without making my applications going nuts |
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| 09:15.33 | msrd0 | mousa: you could do that with the command "update-alternatives" |
| 09:16.07 | petn-randall | facepalms. |
| 09:16.19 | mjt | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.20 | petn-randall | Sorry jelly, guess I'm not properly awake yet. |
| 09:16.53 | mjt | msrd0: update-alternatives for a desktop environment? |
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| 09:18.43 | Iridos | mousa, you can /msg dpkg install kde (or instead of <install kde>, also: <install gnome>, <install xfce>, <install lxde>) |
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| 09:19.38 | Iridos | msrd0, err, no? update-alternatives is for commands you run... it's usually the greeter that gives you a choice of desktop environments... |
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| 09:20.35 | mousa | Iridos, I am currently using KDE plasma, would be great to try gnome and perhaps xfce |
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| 09:21.26 | Iridos | mousa, the kdm login-screen should give you a choice of all installed WM/DE |
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| 09:22.12 | mousa | great |
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| 09:23.26 | Iridos | (as does the gdm login-screen... haven't used kdm in quite a wile) |
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| 09:23.39 | mousa | Iridos, what will happen to the programs that are specific to KDE? will they be available in gnome as well? |
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| 09:23.46 | cornl_ | hello! My systemd service won't start for some reason... it starts fine on Archlinux though? |
| 09:24.28 | Iridos | mousa, from command-line... sure... from the menus... possibly... guess you'll see |
| 09:24.47 | mousa | Iridos, thanks |
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| 09:26.23 | cornl_ | hello! My systemd service won't start for some reason... it starts fine on Archlinux though? Here is the service file that I put in /etc/systemd/ folder: http://pastebin.com/ULUTkUdH |
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| 09:29.18 | Iridos | cornl_, there's a separate channel on oftc.net for systemd on debian, where someone else might be more able to help |
| 09:29.19 | Iridos | dpkg, systemd |
| 09:29.20 | dpkg | systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd is shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and will be be the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". https://wiki.debian.org/systemd #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. See also <why systemd>. |
| 09:29.41 | cornl_ | Iridos: thanks |
| 09:30.24 | petn-randall | cornl_: systemd is far from usable in Debian wheezy, it's only shipped as a tech preview. |
| 09:30.36 | OpenTokix | tech preview is the new stable |
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| 09:35.12 | cornl_ | petn-randall: so what do you use to start programs as services? |
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| 09:37.34 | msrd0 | mousa: sure, i used this command myself for changing from gnome to kde and it works |
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| 09:41.48 | phogg | cornl_: /etc/init.d/whatever start, if there's an init script. See also daemon(1) for daemonizing scripts and things. |
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| 09:45.09 | ChrisH | Is there a way to have Network-Manager prefer LAN over WLAN connection per default? Mine currently activates LAN and WLAN while beeing at home in docking station. For a OpenVPN connection I fire up dnsmasq and then NM sometimes changes the active connection (which causes a change in resolv.conf, making my VPN nameresolution fail.) |
| 09:45.16 | ChrisH | I would like to state, prefered LAN over WLAN over WWAN by default. Manually override possible. But I did not yet find such an option. |
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| 09:47.31 | sandman13 | how do i disable virtualbox from starting during booting |
| 09:47.53 | sandman13 | I have tried update-rc.d virtualbox disable but that throws error |
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| 09:56.58 | Cyclohexane | How do I escape an @ symbol in ftp://user:pass@host e.g. @ exists in the password? |
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| 09:57.57 | seoneal7 | None of your business |
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| 10:00.37 | petn-randall | Cyclohexane: Usually you can just prepend a backslash to do that, but it depends a little on how you're passing it to your ftp client. |
| 10:01.03 | phatypus | hello. iptables question: can someone confirm that i've setup this chain correctly http://paste.debian.net/103511/ |
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| 10:01.25 | petn-randall | reduces Cyclohexane to benzene. |
| 10:01.47 | phatypus | i want to drop connections from ips that have connected more than x number of times during a period of y seconds |
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| 10:02.42 | petn-randall | phatypus: So you can lock yourself out if you ever ssh over a flaky connection? |
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| 10:03.11 | petn-randall | phatypus: I recommend using fail2ban instead, it's a little more reliable for that. |
| 10:03.20 | phatypus | petn-randall i have a rule preceding that rule to always allow my home IP without any limiting |
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| 10:04.08 | phatypus | i'm really looking to ensure i have the chain setup correctly |
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| 10:05.31 | petn-randall | phatypus: I'm guessing so, but the way to ensure it is to test it. :) |
| 10:06.28 | phatypus | petn-randall i have and it seems to work, but up until now my iptables rules have always been very basic |
| 10:06.51 | phatypus | so was looking for a old hat to confirm i was right :) |
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| 10:19.41 | blizzy | hello |
| 10:19.44 | blizzy | =] |
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| 10:29.54 | Dirkos | Im now using this to create an archive from my dirs: https://gist.github.com/Dirkos/86341593b8ac75f4d836 |
| 10:30.01 | Dirkos | how can i exclude specific folders? |
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| 10:32.25 | ChrisH | Dirkos: man tar search for -X, --exclude-from (the excludes before did not work well for me) |
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| 10:33.15 | Dirkos | thnx |
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| 10:49.30 | Twinkletoes | I can't get rewrite working, so that all requests to my site are directed to a different page (on the same site). I've got: RewriteRule * /maintenance.html [R=301,L] Where am I going wrong? |
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| 10:54.24 | ChrisH | Twinkletoes: increase loggin and check the error log. I allwas found the stuff there useful |
| 10:54.31 | petn-randall | Twinkletoes: A single '*' isn't valid perl compatible regex. |
| 10:54.39 | Twinkletoes | I sussed it in the end |
| 10:54.51 | Twinkletoes | RewriteRule ^.* /new-path |
| 10:54.57 | Twinkletoes | It was simple thant I thought - thanks :) |
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| 10:56.20 | petn-randall | Twinkletoes: Or just RewriteRule ^ /newpath |
| 10:56.30 | petn-randall | :) |
| 10:57.04 | Twinkletoes | Even easier! - LOL :) |
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| 10:57.43 | petn-randall | Twinkletoes: Saves you a few CPU cycles matching all those chars. ;) |
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| 11:00.18 | sobersabre | hi. |
| 11:00.32 | sobersabre | I've connected a usb headset to the machine, and expected it to work. it doesn't. |
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| 11:00.52 | sobersabre | I'll probably need to write a udev rules file. any pointers on how to do this quickly ? |
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| 11:02.51 | lurtz_ | i created a raid5 with my 9650SE-16ML card, they seems to be raid-unit in the cli, but shows up as single disks in linux, any reason why? :P |
| 11:02.52 | jelly | sobersabre: if you sound goes thru pulseaudio, you can use pavucontrol to route specific applications (or everything) out the headset |
| 11:02.59 | lurtz_ | this may not be a debian question, but im asking here anyway :P |
| 11:03.13 | lurtz_ | box running debian tho |
| 11:03.18 | sobersabre | jelly: I've tried doing so, the problem is that my pulseaudio does not see that device. |
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| 11:04.06 | jelly | sobersabre: oh, that would be a problem. what do you see in dmesg after the device is plugged in? |
| 11:04.22 | sobersabre | I can see it in lsusb, but device is like this: crw-rw-r-T 1 root root 189, 258 Jun 5 11:30 /dev/bus/usb/003/003 |
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| 11:05.58 | petn-randall | lurtz_: That's pretty much how Hardware RAID functions, it'll just export a single disk to your OS. |
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| 11:07.00 | lurtz_ | petn-randall: okey, but i have made a raid of this disks? |
| 11:07.17 | lurtz_ | should they not come up as one raided device in linux? specially after a reboot? |
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| 11:07.48 | mjt | lurtz_: but you said they do? |
| 11:08.12 | lurtz_ | no they come up as single devices after reboot |
| 11:08.27 | mjt | single deviceS makes no sense |
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| 11:08.37 | mjt | it is either single device or multiple devices |
| 11:08.37 | lurtz_ | yet they show as raid5 in the https-cli |
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| 11:09.12 | mjt | so please pick one or another :) |
| 11:09.29 | sobersabre | jelly: http://dpaste.com/04930RV/ |
| 11:10.07 | lurtz_ | mjt: no look, here's the deal, i got 10 drives in my box, and i wanted to make two raid5 units of this, one raid5 got 4 drives, another got 6 |
| 11:10.23 | lurtz_ | after the raidcard has done this initializing thingy that took ages |
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| 11:11.28 | peetaur2 | why not just clarify what they have mentioned so far.... how many disks do you see in Linux? |
| 11:12.31 | jelly | sobersabre: right, it only got recognized as input device (probably has a button or two). You might try a newer kernel (from backports) |
| 11:12.33 | petn-randall | lurtz_: What part don't you understand? If you do a hardware RAID5 with 4 devices, it'll show up as 1 large device in your OS, regardless if it's Linux, Solaris, Windows, etc. |
| 11:13.19 | petn-randall | lurtz_: If you would have a mdraid (*software* RAID), you'd see all 4 devices and a /dev/md0 that acts as RAID5. |
| 11:13.32 | lurtz_ | petn-randall: yes |
| 11:13.34 | lurtz_ | but it doesnt |
| 11:13.36 | lurtz_ | thats the thing |
| 11:13.39 | lurtz_ | https://www.dropbox.com/s/vna7r3dtly8hhpr/raid5.jpg |
| 11:13.42 | jelly | petn-randall: that's what he thought as well, "<lurtz_> should they not come up as one raided device in linux? ", and yet his hw raid controller presents all the member devices, it seems |
| 11:13.42 | lurtz_ | like that in raid cli |
| 11:13.50 | lurtz_ | but single mode in linux, with lsblk |
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| 11:15.31 | mjt | what does "single mode in linux" mean? |
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| 11:16.08 | lurtz_ | http://pastebin.com/9rrzfdvr |
| 11:16.10 | lurtz_ | thats single mode |
| 11:16.11 | petn-randall | lurtz_: I don't understand your problem. What is the output of 'fdisk -l'? |
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| 11:17.47 | peetaur2 | lurtz_: do you have sda and sdb? |
| 11:18.05 | peetaur2 | lurtz_: if you have sda and b, I'd say those are your raid volumes, and then everything is as expected. |
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| 11:18.27 | peetaur2 | it's useful to have these "pass through" devices so you can use smartctl, hdparm, etc. on them |
| 11:18.28 | lurtz_ | those are my OS disk, softraid |
| 11:19.04 | peetaur2 | okay well I see 11 disks there, and your raid screenshot has 10 disks. What else is in there? |
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| 11:20.10 | peetaur2 | also, the raid screenshot has only 6 2TB disks, but your list has all 2TB (1.8TiB) ones |
| 11:20.18 | lurtz_ | http://pastebin.com/s2MpF8eV |
| 11:20.22 | lurtz_ | thats whole lsblk output |
| 11:20.37 | lurtz_ | yes iknow |
| 11:20.40 | lurtz_ | it's weird as hell |
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| 11:21.17 | lurtz_ | i run the latest firmware of this raidcard too, 9650SE-16ML |
| 11:21.34 | peetaur2 | many raid controllers don't support >2.2TB disks ... maybe this is related somehow. Yours seems to support them, but just has this side effect. |
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| 11:22.32 | lurtz_ | yeah, this cards is suppose to support 4TB drives, but 6 of this drives are 2TB and should not have any problem, yet not even that part of raid seems to work |
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| 11:23.02 | sobersabre | hi. |
| 11:23.09 | sobersabre | I've rebooted and got the headset working. |
| 11:23.10 | sobersabre | :) |
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| 11:26.05 | jelly | sobersabre: did you change anything or did it just decide to start working on its own? |
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| 11:33.15 | sobersabre | jelly: I did edit the rules, and made sure the device with my headset's USB ID gets owned by group audio. |
| 11:33.56 | sobersabre | anyways, now I've noticed the icon in pulseaudio is missing. |
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| 11:44.48 | jelly | dpkg: ping |
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| 11:53.00 | paul_grozav | hello, I am running debian wheezy 7.1 and i need to see the boot log, the messages I see on the screen as the system boots, like Starting apache2 ... [FAILED] etc ... But my /var/log/boot is missing. Is it supposed to be created by /etc/init.d/bootlogs ? |
| 11:54.24 | peetaur2 | paul_grozav: grep "Starting apache2" /var/log/* :) |
| 11:54.37 | peetaur2 | or figure out how your logging is set up in /etc/rsyslog* |
| 11:55.03 | paul_grozav | peetaur2: the grep thing was my next ideea, but I said I should ask, thanks |
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| 11:56.33 | reuf | anybody have expirience with hlr- home location reigster - setting it up, cnfiguring it, etc? - also any other network/telecom/gsm-related channels around? |
| 11:56.36 | paul_grozav | peetaur2: grep did not find anything and rsyslog does not exist |
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| 11:58.04 | paul_grozav | I think I have to do a apt-get install bootlogd |
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| 11:58.56 | ground | tes |
| 11:59.17 | peetaur2 | paul_grozav: you don't have rsyslog.conf and rsyslog.d/ ? |
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| 12:00.02 | peetaur2 | also FYI I have never tried to find a log with that particular info in it ... so I'm not even sure it would get logged anywhere by default. |
| 12:00.41 | paul_grozav | peetaur2: yeah, sorry, I have the two files, sorry -.- |
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| 12:24.10 | tomodachi | hi i happened to run dpkg -i on a ubuntu package in debian not it complains, how can i uninstall this package |
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| 12:24.41 | tomodachi | dpkg -r fontconfig-config gives me libfontconfig1:amd64 depends on fontconfig-config (= 2.9.0-7.1) |
| 12:24.42 | dpkg | removes fontconfig-config gives me libfontconfig1:amd64 depends on fontconfig-config (= 2.9.0-7.1) along with a pound of flesh from tomodachi's body, then staples tomodachi back up with a staple gun. |
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| 12:25.30 | tomodachi | oh that does not sound nice |
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| 12:28.12 | SirLagz | tomodachi: haha |
| 12:28.26 | SirLagz | tomodachi: you really shouldn't have installed an ubuntu package in debian |
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| 12:32.07 | TJ- | tomodachi: If you only have Debian archives in the apt sources, you ought to be able to replace that package with "apt-get --reinstall install <package-name>=<debian-version>" |
| 12:33.40 | tomodachi | TJ-: thanx ill try that |
| 12:33.43 | jelly | tomodachi: run dpkg --remove --force-depends on it, then run apt-get -f install to let apt fix dependency state |
| 12:34.16 | tomodachi | TJ-: nope that complains about the ubuntu package version |
| 12:34.34 | TJ- | tomodachi: see jelly's solution |
| 12:35.42 | tomodachi | jelly: TJ- that worked , thanks! , Im guessing the --forcep-depends kept dependencies while removing the packge itself |
| 12:35.49 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.00 | jelly | tomodachi: actually, it broke dependencies intentionally |
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| 12:36.03 | wols_ | too late :( |
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| 12:36.27 | jelly | it kept the installed set of packages, yes |
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| 12:40.41 | san13 | hello everyone any idea where should a newbie start in order to contribute to opensource....just an engineering college guy...not a pro but want to learn.. |
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| 12:43.30 | Procy0n | find an interesting project, maybe something you already use. Something simple enough. Look for the bug reports or something you'd like to get fixed yourself, and start reading the code |
| 12:45.04 | san13 | thanks Procy0n...it would be easier if you please give me some direct hints... |
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| 12:47.29 | Radon_3 | hi everybody |
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| 12:48.12 | Radon_3 | I want to know if debian can use all my hardwares the right way, how can I do that? |
| 12:49.16 | dwatkins | There's a hardware compatibility list, Radon_3 - http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
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| 12:50.24 | sharky | Radon_3, it probably can, and the faster way is to give it a try with a live cd/dvd |
| 12:50.58 | sharky | Radex, or live usb, of course. |
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| 12:51.19 | sharky | Radex, sorry, meant for Radon_3 |
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| 12:51.22 | srged | I've installed the real firefox on debian. now how do i remove it? |
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| 12:52.25 | sharky | srged, did you install it by # apt-get install ... |
| 12:52.56 | sharky | srged, if yes, then # apt-get remove ... |
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| 12:53.19 | srged | sharky: thats the whole point, Ive compiled it myself |
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| 12:54.01 | Radon_3 | dwatkins: thank you very much, exactly what i needed, but I can't interpret the output: http://paste.debian.net/103547/ ?? |
| 12:54.19 | sharky | srged, then go to your compiled directory, read the README file, you probably installed it by # make install, you will have to do something like # make uninstall |
| 12:54.39 | srged | sharky: ok thx |
| 12:54.51 | sharky | srged, ;) |
| 12:54.54 | dwatkins | Radon_3: not all of your hardware is recognised, it may well work fine, but it's not on the list |
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| 12:55.25 | dwatkins | Radon_3: as sharky says, the best thing to do is boot from the live USB image and confirm that your sound, wifi etc. work |
| 12:55.28 | Radon_3 | dwatkins: any suggestions for getting them to work? |
| 12:56.04 | dwatkins | If particular devices don't work, you can address them individually from the live USB image without doing anything to your hard drive |
| 12:56.09 | Radon_3 | dwatkins: well i am on ubuntu and i am currently playing some songs.... |
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| 12:56.53 | sharky | dwatkins, for wifi some drivers are proprietary and not included, but still can be installed and working, but for most part should be fine ;) |
| 12:56.55 | Radon_3 | and everything "seems" to be working, no prblms so far |
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| 12:57.25 | Radon_3 | but thatlististelling me that some stuff are not working... |
| 12:57.28 | dwatkins | sharky: yeah, hopefully that will be apparent from the live environment, or easily searched online, but at least then 'we' can have a list of what doesn't work for sure |
| 12:57.47 | sharky | dwatkins, yup |
| 12:57.50 | anddam | san13: open source isn't a solid block, pick a project you like or that you use and go through its open bugs |
| 12:58.29 | anddam | san13: usually there are several ways to contribute, not all of them involving software development |
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| 13:00.27 | sharky | san13, the best thing is when you pick something that is useful for you, then make it available for other too |
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| 13:01.28 | Radon_3 | thanks so much folks |
| 13:01.30 | sharky | san13, or even write blog post about your experience with things, so that other can learn from your experience, it is about the community |
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| 13:08.58 | sharky | san13, I like this video very much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_mSNI_b8Q |
| 13:09.13 | lurtz_ | peetaur2: found what caused my problem, this card have an auto-carving policy turned on by default, and set size to 2TB, this means that every unit created with this policy turned on will show it's units as 2TB disks in the OS, splitting the raid-volume up |
| 13:09.34 | lurtz_ | peetaur2: you cannot just simply turn this function if and it will automagicly solve it self, you have to re-create the units |
| 13:10.14 | lurtz_ | peetaur2: this can be read on page 99-109 http://www.lsi.com/downloads/Public/RAID%20Controllers/RAID%20Controllers%20Common%20Files/UsrGuide-9650SE-9690SA-9.5.2.pdf |
| 13:10.16 | JyZyXEL | instead of doing 'make install' is it possible to generate a .deb package instead? |
| 13:10.51 | themill | dpkg: tell JyZyXEL about checkinstall |
| 13:11.07 | lurtz_ | peetaur2: just wanted to share my discovery in case someone else comes along with same problem, since you guys are here to help, would be fair to also share the solutions when found :) |
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| 13:12.59 | Walex2 | lurtz_: interesting details. |
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| 13:15.57 | peetaur2 | lurtz_: haha why would anyone want such a feature? |
| 13:16.32 | jelly | peetaur2: to be able to use the raid with an OS that formats stuff with DOS MBR partition table. |
| 13:16.45 | lurtz_ | peetaur2: this is because older systems doesnt support larger drives than 2TB, also some centOS and similar doesnt support this in the default install |
| 13:17.14 | lurtz_ | the specific details can be read on the pages @ the link i posted |
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| 13:18.09 | peetaur2 | okay, slightly different question .... why would anyone use such an OS? |
| 13:18.32 | peetaur2 | can't remember the time when Linux didn't support huge volumes and you could stick XFS on them |
| 13:18.40 | lurtz_ | i dont know :D this is a card from 2009 and they probably wanna cover obselete stuff |
| 13:19.03 | lurtz_ | they are refering to windows 2000 and windows xp and similar |
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| 13:19.22 | lurtz_ | stupid future to enable tho, should be the other way around |
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| 13:19.52 | lurtz_ | question tho, how do i know if my drives support ATA-6? |
| 13:20.10 | lurtz_ | Staggered method. |
| 13:20.12 | lurtz_ | Indicates whether the type |
| 13:20.13 | lurtz_ | wtf |
| 13:21.10 | lurtz_ | http://pastebin.com/84cgKAjX |
| 13:21.11 | lurtz_ | there |
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| 13:22.26 | peetaur2 | I think it roughly translates to: Try something randomly. If it doesn't work, try something else. :) |
| 13:22.40 | lurtz_ | :D |
| 13:23.14 | lurtz_ | i'l try that ATA-6 all disks are same brand so looks like a safe choice |
| 13:23.18 | peetaur2 | staggered is just good for not popping power breakers when a rack of servers spins all the disks up at the same time |
| 13:23.27 | peetaur2 | maybe for PSU too |
| 13:23.30 | lurtz_ | aha ok |
| 13:23.32 | lurtz_ | :P |
| 13:23.38 | lurtz_ | so doesnt matter then |
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| 13:25.57 | ikanobori | At risk of being in the wrong segment of Freenode, I'm looking for a solution to easily share my blacklists (currently stored in `ipset` per machine) across machines. Doesn't need to be realtime just "eventually" (where eventually is kinda fast). |
| 13:26.10 | Iridos | lurtz_, I think you're in the wrong channel for this... I don't see how debian-specific knowledge would be helpful to you (and hence it's pure chance if someone here can answer you) |
| 13:26.18 | ikanobori | I have quite a few tools to my disposal, amongst them: salt, rabbitmq, redis, mysql, postgresql, etc. |
| 13:26.31 | ikanobori | Who has done the same and can share some ideas/tips? :) |
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| 13:27.07 | ikanobori | Oh, and celery, a jobqueue which was my first idea to add a call to block an ip and propagate it across nodes that way, however, not all nodes run celery. |
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| 13:27.29 | lurtz_ | Iridos: it isnt, but i asked here when i seeked information, and peetaur2 and Walex2 answerd, now im providing the answer/solution to my problem |
| 13:28.02 | Iridos | ikanobori, aren't the nodes behind a common nat that can block any ip you want anyway? |
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| 13:29.11 | ikanobori | Mostly are, however some are direct accesible and I'd like to propagate blacklists to them |
| 13:29.42 | ikanobori | And then I have to figure out the v6 part as well where there is no NAT, well there is but it's a bad idea. |
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| 13:35.17 | DoMPatones1 | if all u need is sync the lists rsync might work as well. You would need to restart the service in a set interval. |
| 13:35.49 | Gyndawyr | hello I'm having trouble with debian now that I've finally got it to install without overheating my laptop -_- |
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| 13:36.06 | Gyndawyr | none of the desktop icons are appearing and right-clicking does nothing either |
| 13:36.37 | ikanobori | DoMPatones1: That's also a possibility, yea. I'll take a look into a few. For now it's fine, all machines have the same heuristics for blocking anyways and 90% of it is indeed NATted. Was more of an "ideal" idea. |
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| 13:37.34 | ikanobori | I'll probably look at storing them in my salt pillar and having an update hook when the data in said store changes or such if that is possible. |
| 13:37.50 | DoMPatones1 | I think that you need a simple solution for this task. Salt is a little too much I think |
| 13:38.23 | JyZyXEL | themill: install: cannot create directory ‘/usr/local/var’: No such file or directory |
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| 13:38.24 | JyZyXEL | Makefile:367: recipe for target 'install-localstatedir' failed |
| 13:38.37 | JyZyXEL | can i just mkdir /usr/local/var ? o.O |
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| 13:38.51 | Gyndawyr | halp pls? |
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| 13:38.59 | JyZyXEL | kind of weird that it doesn't do that by itself |
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| 13:41.39 | JyZyXEL | this checkinstall doesn't seem to work very well |
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| 13:42.42 | themill | JyZyXEL: it works as well as "make install" does. /usr/local/var sounds pretty broken. |
| 13:43.02 | JyZyXEL | themill: well i created it and re-ran the command and now its just saying something else is missing |
| 13:43.20 | themill | if the Makefile is crap then checkinstall can't do much about that |
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| 13:43.48 | JyZyXEL | strip "/usr/local/bin/qemu-ga" "/usr/local/bin/qemu-nbd" "/usr/local/bin/qemu-img" "/usr/local/bin/qemu-io" "/usr/local/bin/fsdev/virtfs-proxy-helper" |
| 13:43.51 | JyZyXEL | strip: '/usr/local/bin/fsdev/virtfs-proxy-helper': No such file |
| 13:44.33 | themill | subdirectories under 'bin'? not a good sign |
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| 13:45.18 | JyZyXEL | that should be one of the files that the make install installs |
| 13:45.46 | JyZyXEL | so its complaining about a file that it is supposed to be installing, that its not installed |
| 13:45.53 | themill | sounds like that makefile is installing things in th wrong place |
| 13:46.33 | JyZyXEL | so why isn't checkinstall letting it? |
| 13:46.42 | themill | it's not |
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| 13:47.15 | themill | all checkinstall is doing is tracking what "make install" is trying to do. If it's trying to insane things, then checkinstall can't change that. |
| 13:47.28 | themill | BTW is there a particular reason you're trying to compile qemu? |
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| 13:48.50 | JyZyXEL | themill: the debian version is so hopelessly outdated |
| 13:49.33 | JyZyXEL | the new features are developing on a daily basis |
| 13:49.49 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: how is 2.0 hopeless outdated? |
| 13:50.13 | themill | JyZyXEL: by hopelessly outdated, you mean "current upstream version"? |
| 13:50.20 | JyZyXEL | somiaj: just in few days we got like 500 new lines of code to VFIO support |
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| 13:51.15 | themill | you'd still do better updating the debian packaging than trying to deal with the build system there, particularly as it looks like you've passed it some very odd options |
| 13:51.34 | JyZyXEL | i did ./configure and make -j8 |
| 13:53.43 | JyZyXEL | libtool --quiet --mode=install install -c -m 0755 qemu-ga qemu-nbd qemu-img qemu-io fsdev/virtfs-proxy-helper "/usr/local/bin" |
| 13:53.51 | JyZyXEL | maybe the reason why its not working is because the makefile is using libtool? |
| 13:54.02 | themill | no |
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| 13:56.30 | bravvve22 | hi i wan to set tftp server for cisco devices but nothing works,there is no network problem |
| 13:57.10 | JyZyXEL | themill: so i should go ask the qemu people, what were they thinking? |
| 13:57.29 | themill | JyZyXEL: I'd look at the debian packaging to see how this is sorted out |
| 13:58.09 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: you could also just try uupdate on the debian source packages and see if the build/patches from debian/rules still work |
| 13:58.26 | JyZyXEL | themill: debian splits qemu in to so many packages though |
| 13:58.38 | JyZyXEL | or is the source package still just one package? |
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| 13:59.11 | JyZyXEL | somiaj: apt-get source qemu? |
| 13:59.41 | somiaj | the source package https://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy-backports/qemu produces all of those binaries |
| 13:59.46 | somiaj | if you have a deb-src line, yes |
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| 14:00.15 | JyZyXEL | ah goody goody |
| 14:00.35 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if they've left the git directory in there so i can just git pull inside the sources |
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| 14:01.31 | gdm85 | a suggestion for a lightweight telnet server? |
| 14:02.08 | JyZyXEL | somiaj: aww, i cannot git pull inside the debian source directory of qemu :( |
| 14:02.12 | jelly | gdm85: the "original" netkit one is rather lightweight, why do you ask? |
| 14:02.48 | gdm85 | jelly: I had found one some time ago that was using inetd, but don't remember the package name |
| 14:02.54 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: yea I think uupdate requires you have a new upstream tar.gz (or similar) archive of the source, but read the doc on uupdate |
| 14:03.10 | jelly | gdm85: apt-cache search telnetd |
| 14:03.15 | JyZyXEL | im probably just gonna end up with a broken package |
| 14:03.25 | JyZyXEL | i don't know anything about these tools |
| 14:03.31 | gdm85 | jelly: empty |
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| 14:03.41 | gdm85 | jelly: it's prolly in universe |
| 14:03.46 | jelly | gdm85: fix your sources. |
| 14:03.55 | gdm85 | jelly: they are fine. |
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| 14:04.01 | jelly | gdm85: Debian does not have "universe" |
| 14:04.20 | jelly | gdm85: which distro are you using? |
| 14:04.25 | gdm85 | jelly: right. I got confused |
| 14:04.36 | gdm85 | jelly: Debian Wheezy |
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| 14:04.56 | jelly | gdm85: at this point I can't trust you. Show your /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 14:04.58 | IceCream | eh |
| 14:05.03 | jelly | !paste |
| 14:05.03 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 14:05.04 | IceCream | does Debian have a ports system |
| 14:05.06 | gdm85 | jelly: I asked on the wrong terminal.. |
| 14:05.24 | ivanshmakov | What’s the easy way to set priorities for swapping pages belonging to different processes? |
| 14:05.56 | Johnon | I can't have a good visualization on the webpages on debian. I ve checked fonts in the setting and in the browsers as well, antialising... nothing! the way I visualize the internet is not relaxing, defined and so clear as Other OS i have. why not? I love Debian most of all but why I can't fix this problem?? Please give me an advice |
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| 14:07.06 | ivanshmakov | gdm85: Dropbear SSH? |
| 14:07.30 | ivanshmakov | What’d be the reason to run Telnet nowadays? To let anyone get one’s passwords, transmitted over the network in plaintext? |
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| 14:08.08 | petn-randall | ivanshmakov: Only useful application is to stream ASCII art videos of star wars. |
| 14:08.12 | gdm85 | jelly: inetutils-telnetd krb-telnetd telnetd telnetd-ssl |
| 14:08.21 | gdm85 | has ~60 terminals open |
| 14:08.30 | ivanshmakov | petn-randall: Indeed. |
| 14:08.42 | peetaur2 | ivanshmakov: telnet makes a nice interactive sort of netcat :) |
| 14:08.45 | JyZyXEL | themill: i changed to: ./configure --target-list=x86_64-softmmu --enable-debug and now it works :) |
| 14:08.50 | gdm85 | jelly: I will go with inetd-telnetd, I like the inetd way |
| 14:08.57 | petn-randall | gdm85: That doesn't look like your sources.list. |
| 14:09.03 | jelly | gdm85: they're probably all inetd-based |
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| 14:09.10 | ivanshmakov | gdm85: I’m surprised; I typically use around 20. |
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| 14:09.43 | ivanshmakov | (Wait, that’s on a single host; there’s a few more hosts with few more GNU Screen windows on them.) |
| 14:09.55 | jelly | screen does not count! |
| 14:10.05 | srged | guys, I now run a full debian on my machine. do I need any antivirus program like I used to have on windows ? |
| 14:10.21 | gdm85 | srged: of course |
| 14:10.38 | gdm85 | I reccomend McAfee |
| 14:10.46 | srged | is it free? |
| 14:10.51 | jelly | gdm85: please try to be helpful. |
| 14:11.00 | jelly | srged: you leg is being pulled. |
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| 14:11.03 | jelly | your* |
| 14:11.06 | gdm85 | srged: I am kidding. no, you do not need an antivirus software |
| 14:11.07 | srged | ic |
| 14:11.17 | srged | okay :) |
| 14:11.33 | gdm85 | srged: you can install clamAV but you'd better study how security works on Linux to keep it safe |
| 14:11.37 | jelly | srged: the available antivirus software does not cover the common attack vectors for linux. |
| 14:11.42 | TMcTrain | tharkun: did the brainstorming during your commute bring something up, what could possible be wrong with my user permissions we discussed earlier. :-) |
| 14:12.07 | peetaur2 | srged: just install things from package manager instead of malware bundles, and you'll do fine... |
| 14:12.19 | srged | jelly: what would be a wise move for me to do in order to keep my debian machine as safe as possible |
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| 14:12.26 | thid | oh I read something about it yesterday |
| 14:12.46 | thid | srged: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20140602#qa |
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| 14:13.20 | gdm85 | that article is a good start |
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| 14:13.55 | Johnon | some advice? |
| 14:14.33 | gdm85 | Johnon: about? |
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| 14:15.34 | Johnon | I can't have a good visualization on the webpages on debian. I ve checked fonts in the setting and in the browsers as well, antialising... nothing! the way I visualize the internet is not relaxing, defined and so clear as Other OS i have. why not? I love Debian most of all but why I can't fix this problem?? Please give me an advice |
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| 14:16.26 | gdm85 | Johnon: from my experience, what you mentioned and media playing are difficult to get right on Debian. can't be of much help.. |
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| 14:17.51 | petn-randall | gdm85: As far as I can tell you're not even running Debian ... |
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| 14:18.10 | olskolirc | I don't see anything in the topic about getting the debian version of Kali Linux. Are the repositories or keyring still being maintained? |
| 14:18.16 | nyuszika7h | what about https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt ? |
| 14:18.30 | gdm85 | jelly: sorry, I usually try to be helpful..my empathy died a bit while reading it |
| 14:18.36 | nyuszika7h | olskolirc: tried 'cat /etc/debian_version'? |
| 14:18.40 | tharkun | TMcTrain: Well I didn't come up with a solution, but why not try a static uid instead of dynamic that might solve the isue. Can you prepare a pastebin with all the relevant data. It will serve up as a summary of what have you done and what might be of interest to us all. |
| 14:18.56 | petn-randall | olskolirc: Kali is a completely different distribution. It's not very related nor supported by #debian. |
| 14:18.57 | olskolirc | I'm on wheezy nyuszika7h *rolling my eyes* |
| 14:19.13 | nyuszika7h | oh |
| 14:19.14 | gdm85 | nyuszika7h: saw that this morning |
| 14:19.16 | nyuszika7h | I misunderstood |
| 14:19.18 | tharkun | TMcTrain: An exercise in analyzing the problem on a different perspective |
| 14:19.21 | olskolirc | it uesed to be petn-randall when kali 1.0 came out, there was a debian version |
| 14:19.29 | Johnon | gdm85, it's nothing about media, they are ok. it's the order and the bad way the webpages are visualized. Why ubuntu can do it perfectly and debian not? I think is just something about setting, I don't believe it's impossible for debian to get the same high definition of ubuntu |
| 14:19.40 | petn-randall | olskolirc: Kali never was the same as Debian, no. |
| 14:19.47 | petn-randall | !tell olskolirc -about based on |
| 14:19.49 | jelly | nyuszika7h: /msg dpkg cve lookup CVE-2014-0224 |
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| 14:20.14 | gdm85 | Johnon: impossible is not. I think best way is to check how they accomplished it. probably some non-free fonts involved here and there..and changes to default X11 settings |
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| 14:20.43 | olskolirc | oic thanks petn-randall an nyuszika7h? pro tip: lsb_release -a |
| 14:21.12 | nyuszika7h | oh there's an update now |
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| 14:21.42 | Johnon | gdm85, right, there is somethig non free included there but I can't understand what is it exactly |
| 14:22.03 | gdm85 | Johnon: you just have to compare a (verbose) xorg.log to see that |
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| 14:22.58 | Johnon | gdm85, let me check I will try to understand something, thx |
| 14:23.08 | TMcTrain | tharkun: oh as I use systemuser vmail it is a static uid/gid only the imap-user UserXY is loggin into imap and dovecot is accessing dir as user vmail |
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| 14:24.01 | gdm85 | Johnon: xorg.log lists the fonts it's using, for example (that's the first hint) |
| 14:24.14 | gdm85 | Johnon: then you could check the enabled settings of Xorg (and the loaded modules, ofc) |
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| 14:25.22 | tharkun | TMcTrain: I didn't catch what you said. I'm very sleep deprived. |
| 14:25.30 | TMcTrain | can it probably be that my debain system is merged together from two versions squeezy and wheezy. or should there be an error from dependencys if it was the problem |
| 14:25.43 | _Ed | I am trying without success to get Ipredia OS to connect to my network |
| 14:25.50 | Johnon | gdm85, I think is the second.. becaiuse i have compare the fonts and both are the same |
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| 14:26.01 | _Ed | anyone around familiar with the OS? |
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| 14:26.26 | gdm85 | Johnon: the same? I don't know two versions of Debian/Ubuntu that shipped with same fonts :) maybe you made them be equal, good |
| 14:26.33 | ivanshmakov | Do I understand it correctly that Linux version in Debian stable doesn’t support /sys/fs/cgroup/memory? |
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| 14:26.51 | gdm85 | ivanshmakov: are you playing with LXC? |
| 14:27.20 | TMcTrain | tharkun: sorry, dovecot running as root, (virtual)user is loggin into dovecot and gets authenticated, but maildir is not accessed as (virtual)user but as existing systemuser vmail |
| 14:27.37 | srged | uname -m |
| 14:27.37 | srged | i686 |
| 14:27.39 | srged | uname -m |
| 14:27.39 | srged | i686 |
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| 14:28.08 | Nach0z | o_0 |
| 14:28.13 | srged | am I 32 or 64? my uname -m shows i686 |
| 14:28.23 | Johnon | gdm85, right |
| 14:28.37 | gdm85 | srged: that's 32bit. you can use /proc/cpuinfo to check what your CPU supports |
| 14:28.49 | ivanshmakov | gdm85: AIUI, LXC is a set of tools to control the Linux cgroups facility. I don’t find these tools all that convenient, so I’d rather prefer to configure cgroups directly. (At least until the necessary support would be implemented in schroot(8).) |
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| 14:28.55 | _Ed | finding very little info on Ipredia in Google, and can’t seem to find their specific IRC |
| 14:29.08 | jelly | !tell srged about lm |
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| 14:29.35 | srged | sudo: /proc/cpuinfo: command not found |
| 14:29.48 | jelly | srged: that's a text file to view, not a command |
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| 14:30.11 | gdm85 | ivanshmakov: I went to the abstraction level above LXC (docker), for the time being. not comfortable with LXC toolset (yet) |
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| 14:30.25 | jelly | sign, nyuszika7h: there's almost as much of you as there is of me |
| 14:30.29 | tharkun | TMcTrain: Well I'm out of ideas. If I come with something new. I'll ping you |
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| 14:30.42 | nyuszika7h | jelly: lol |
| 14:30.43 | TMcTrain | tharkun: tx |
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| 14:31.26 | srged | http://paste.debian.net/103561 |
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| 14:31.48 | srged | can anyone decyphre? :) |
| 14:31.54 | srged | which one is it |
| 14:32.19 | gdm85 | srged: it's 64bit |
| 14:32.27 | gdm85 | srged: if you run grep, it will return matching lines |
| 14:32.44 | gdm85 | srged: you have 2 cores |
| 14:32.49 | gdm85 | (so 2 lines) |
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| 14:33.18 | srged | My pcu is intel core 2 duo. is it ok to run 64 ? |
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| 14:33.36 | gdm85 | srged: I would definitively run at 64bit |
| 14:33.57 | srged | I was under the impression that 64 is for amd, and for intel is 32 :P |
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| 14:34.59 | gdm85 | srged: no the architecture is called amd64 because historically it was the first available, but it's a misnomer. it's for all 64bit CPUs |
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| 14:35.22 | srged | i see |
| 14:35.24 | gdm85 | srged: to add to your confusion: for all *Intel* 64bit CPUs |
| 14:35.35 | gdm85 | that does not mean they are from Intel, but that they use the Intel assembly |
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| 14:36.33 | gdm85 | for example you can have an ARM CPU that has 64bit registers, but the architecture for it wouldn't be amd64 |
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| 14:37.11 | srged | so I accidentally installed the right thing |
| 14:37.34 | srged | at least now I can see all my ram, 4gb :) |
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| 14:37.44 | gdm85 | srged: err..no, you should better use amd64. you are running the CPUs in 32bit mode |
| 14:38.00 | gdm85 | srged: but don't worry, it's a common newbie mistake |
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| 14:38.29 | srged | is confused now |
| 14:39.36 | Gyndawyr | it was easy for me cause my laptop is AMD |
| 14:39.41 | Gyndawyr | and 64 bit |
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| 14:40.10 | Gyndawyr | what wasn't easy was Debian deciding to install 1360 packages while running the CPU fan at 10%. |
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| 14:41.17 | _Ed | not able to access the internet using Debian Ipredia OS |
| 14:41.19 | gdm85 | srged: if you plan to reinstall anyway next week, go on and don't bother. next week you'll peek amd64 while reinstalling. otherwise you'd better use amd64. Linux (and in particular Debian) systems don't require "oil changes" e.g. OS reinstalls, thus you'd better start with the cpu arch that uses fully your available power |
| 14:41.33 | gdm85 | s/peek/pick |
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| 14:42.14 | phogg | 9889 |
| 14:42.23 | olskolirc | On ubuntu you can use jockey-gtk or jockey-kde to install other video drivers that may work better. What do we do to fix X on debian? |
| 14:43.12 | ivanshmakov | Curiously enough, /proc/cgroup has ‘enabled = 0’ for the ‘memory’ subsystem (Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64.) Is it a compile-time kernel setting? |
| 14:43.32 | ruukasu | when can I expect openssl 1.0.1h to be available in debian testing? |
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| 14:43.48 | srged | gdm85: but I did pick the 64bit, by accident |
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| 14:43.54 | srged | thats what im running now :) |
| 14:43.59 | petn-randall | ruukasu: When it's ready. |
| 14:44.02 | gdm85 | srged: ah! amd64? then you're good. I thought you said i686 |
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| 14:44.15 | Brigo | ruukasu, and why do you need it? https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt |
| 14:44.22 | srged | gdm85: how can I chk to make sure? |
| 14:44.30 | gdm85 | srged: uname -a contains it |
| 14:44.51 | srged | Linux linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 14:45.31 | gdm85 | srged: it's running a 32bit kernel |
| 14:45.37 | srged | i686 means 32 ? |
| 14:45.47 | gdm85 | srged: in this case, yes |
| 14:46.11 | srged | ok |
| 14:46.14 | jelly | srged: "dpkg --print-architecture" will say "i386", this means the installation is 32bit |
| 14:46.24 | gdm85 | srged: what jelly said ^ |
| 14:46.32 | ruukasu | Brigo, are you saying the severe vulnerability means I don't need it? |
| 14:46.33 | _Ed | can I get some help getting to the Ipredia Debian channel pls? |
| 14:46.54 | jelly | to make things more confusing, one can have amd64, 64bit kernel with a 32bit debian installation |
| 14:47.19 | srged | user@linux:~$ dpkg --print-architecture |
| 14:47.20 | srged | i386 |
| 14:47.24 | petn-randall | !tell _Ed about ipredia |
| 14:47.35 | Brigo | ruukasu, do you need a sarcarsm detercter? :) |
| 14:47.53 | petn-randall | _Ed: No idea, ipredia has nothing to do with Debian. Check their website? |
| 14:48.08 | _Ed | Ipredia is a debian based distro |
| 14:48.18 | petn-randall | !base on |
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| 14:48.22 | petn-randall | !based on |
| 14:48.23 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 14:48.24 | srged | its funny how my debian sees all my 4GB of ram, I thought the 32bit would only see 3gb as windows 32bit does |
| 14:49.07 | petn-randall | srged: It's a address limitation that applies to all OSes. |
| 14:49.16 | _Ed | their site says “Join us on IRC: #ipredia, #ipredia-sv (in IprediaOS)” |
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| 14:49.23 | _Ed | I dont’ know how to find that |
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| 14:49.27 | _Ed | what node? |
| 14:49.58 | srged | but since it shows me 4gb ram, it means I can make use of all of it. right? |
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| 14:51.13 | petn-randall | _Ed: How should we know? We're not in any way affiliated with, nor do we know about ipredia. |
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| 14:51.53 | _Ed | petn-randall: I thought you might know more about IRC than I, apparently not |
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| 14:52.21 | _Ed | or about Debian on a broader scope |
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| 14:53.04 | petn-randall | _Ed: Try /join #ipgredia |
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| 14:55.01 | ivanshmakov | Finally found that I need to use ‘cgroup_enable=memory’ at boot time for the ‘memory’ subsystem. https://wiki.debian.org/LXC |
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| 15:02.48 | ted20 | How to set UTC offset? |
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| 15:04.26 | ivanshmakov | ted20: # dpkg-reconfigure tzdata – system-wide; $ export TZ=⟨timezone⟩ – for the session. |
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| 15:05.42 | ted20 | Hmm |
| 15:05.43 | ted20 | $ echo $TZ |
| 15:05.48 | ted20 | null zero |
| 15:06.14 | ted20 | ivanshmakov: look http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/World_Time_Zones_Map.png |
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| 15:06.48 | ted20 | I want +x |
| 15:07.08 | ted20 | How to set? :( |
| 15:07.22 | ivanshmakov | ted20: $ export TZ=UTC+13 ; date. |
| 15:07.57 | petn-randall | 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' will let you pick one. |
| 15:08.24 | ted20 | Zero changes |
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| 15:09.47 | ted20 | petn-randall: I want UTC, not GMT |
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| 15:11.23 | DammitJim | is there a special tool one can use to rename servers? |
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| 15:11.48 | DammitJim | I'm using some VMWare templates to create servers but having to set the server name and other configurations is a pain |
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| 15:12.01 | DammitJim | anything that can lessen the pain? does one just have to write bash scripts for something like this? |
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| 15:13.31 | ted20 | Okay I changed it, works good ;) |
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| 15:18.23 | jhutchins | DammitJim: hostname? |
| 15:18.39 | DammitJim | jhutchins, yeah... miscellaneaous stuff like that |
| 15:18.47 | DammitJim | change the hostname, change the static IP address |
| 15:19.03 | DammitJim | there is no tool to just set that up unless one goes to saltstack or puppet, huh? |
| 15:19.50 | srged | whats the apt get package for java ? |
| 15:20.33 | DammitJim | srged, apt-cache search java |
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| 15:22.19 | srged | DammitJim: what u suggested returned a gazillion results :/ |
| 15:22.51 | petn-randall | srged: Install default-jre |
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| 15:23.26 | srged | ok |
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| 15:25.54 | jhutchins | DammitJim: What do you lack? The tool is "hostname". |
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| 15:26.39 | DammitJim | jhutchins, changing the computer name is just 1 thing... I am deploying 4 servers and wish there was a way to automatically set the hostname, IP address, etc on all of them (since I"m using vmware templates) |
| 15:26.40 | jhutchins | DammitJim: If you need to centrally manage the IP address use a DHCP reservation. |
| 15:27.51 | srged | didnt know the commands are case sensitive |
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| 15:32.54 | ivanshmakov | Personally, I rarely, if ever, change hostnames. When I deboostrap(8) a new system, apg(1) is kind enough to give me a nice name for it, which I happily use for that system everafter. |
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| 15:34.34 | ksk | hey guys. any idea (when) the openssl fix will be pushed to squeeze-lts? any specific channel for squeeze-lts available? |
| 15:36.20 | ivanshmakov | Curiously, I was once installing Debian on a tiny computational cluster (6 mainboards, tightly packed into a more or less usual computer box.) As usual, I’ve asked apg(1) to give me a name for the “head” system of them. “Briareus” was the response. |
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| 15:43.36 | lurtz_ | is there any security feed channels here on freenode? |
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| 15:46.23 | srged | I try to use the nvidia auto detect. it says java required. but i have java version "1.6.0_31" |
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| 15:49.42 | srged | how to find out exactly which nvidia driver I need |
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| 15:50.43 | jhutchins | ksk: Is there a new one? Link? |
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| 15:56.30 | GRMrGecko | https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00129.html <- What about squeeze? |
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| 15:59.18 | srged | how to find out exactly which nvidia driver I need |
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| 16:01.02 | ksk | jhutchins: the one from today. see GRMrGecko s link |
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| 16:02.04 | GRMrGecko | ksk: Do you know if they will update squeeze? |
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| 16:02.29 | GRMrGecko | My server at work is squeeze |
| 16:02.31 | ksk | GRMrGecko: as i undestand squeeze-LTS they will push the fix there. question is just WHEN will that happen |
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| 16:03.39 | GRMrGecko | ksk: I haven't upgraded the server for fear of upgrade breaking things. |
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| 16:03.55 | GRMrGecko | which was good for heartbleed attack |
| 16:04.24 | ksk | GRMrGecko: if that is your only reason you should upgrade if you ask me ;) |
| 16:04.35 | xeno_ | Say, I am trying to do this: sudo cat /etc/hosts >/etc/hosts.mine, and it fails, even though I have sudo privileges. |
| 16:04.37 | GRMrGecko | and possibly this one as the advisory says "only known to be vulnerable in OpenSSL 1.0.1 and 1.0.2-beta1" "servers earlier than 1.0.1 are advised to upgrade as a precaution." |
| 16:04.38 | ksk | have a backup handy.. |
| 16:04.42 | xeno_ | What is the appropriate way to do this? |
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| 16:04.58 | GRMrGecko | ksk: I have backups, but reconfiguring is a pain. |
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| 16:05.17 | GRMrGecko | I never upgrade Ubuntu machines as I know how bad they are at upgrading. |
| 16:05.30 | GRMrGecko | Is that the same for debian? |
| 16:05.32 | xeno_ | FWIW: The message I get back is : bash: /etc/hosts.mine: Permission denied. |
| 16:05.43 | xeno_ | I can ofcourse just get in root and do it with sudo. |
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| 16:06.07 | ksk | xeno_: because of subshell. goto #bash :P |
| 16:06.44 | xeno_ | I don't get it. Perhaps I should read up on sudo subshell? |
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| 16:06.47 | srged | how to find out exactly which nvidia driver I need |
| 16:07.20 | ksk | xeno_: i forgot how to workaround this, but #bash will know.. |
| 16:07.34 | xeno_ | Ok. I get it. Thanks. |
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| 16:09.30 | GRMrGecko | I'll hold off from upgrading until I can run a test with a similar setup. |
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| 16:12.59 | TJ- | xeno_: it is the *write* that needs 'sudo', not the read. e.g. "cat /etc/hosts | sudo dd of=/etc/hosts.mine" or "cat /etc/hosts | sudo tee /etc/hosts.mine" |
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| 16:17.25 | jessie | Great topic, solved my problem/question. Thanks guys. |
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| 16:34.41 | xeno_ | Thank you TJ. |
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| 16:37.10 | mobile8 | Hi, how can I see if mod_php is active or installed? |
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| 16:38.22 | jessie | mobile8: “ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled” will show active mods. |
| 16:38.40 | jessie | mobile8: “ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-available” will show all installed mods. |
| 16:38.46 | mobile8 | thanks |
| 16:38.54 | Mousey | and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled shows which are actually enabled |
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| 16:39.16 | Mousey | oh, you said that |
| 16:39.34 | Mousey | sods off, needs more coffee |
| 16:39.52 | lurtz_ | is there any security feed channels here on freenode? |
| 16:39.58 | mobile8 | in /etc/apache2/mods-available |
| 16:40.03 | mobile8 | jessie: which file should be there? |
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| 16:40.26 | jessie | mobile8: Probably php5.conf and php5.load |
| 16:40.36 | mobile8 | jessie: they are there yes |
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| 16:41.00 | mobile8 | jessie: they are also enabled |
| 16:41.19 | mobile8 | jessie: i need to fix this: |
| 16:41.21 | mobile8 | Seeems as if mod_php is not active or installed anymore so that suphp is used now which will not work for the ispconfig interface or suphp has added a global php settings that overrides mod_php. |
| 16:41.26 | mobile8 | Check that mod_php is enabled and then check the apache suphp configuration file in /etc/apache2/mods-available/ and comment out lines that assign suphp for .php files globally. Then restart apache. |
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| 16:44.04 | mobile8 | it seems it is |
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| 16:44.53 | mobile8 | fixed sorry |
| 16:45.00 | mobile8 | just commented out the whole suphp.conf file |
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| 16:45.18 | jessie | You could probably just run sudo a2dissmod suphp |
| 16:45.21 | jessie | But that works too. |
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| 16:48.59 | mobile8 | jessie: what does that command do ? |
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| 16:53.17 | jessie | Removes the section is mods-enabled for that mod. |
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| 16:58.23 | usrnix | hi, how do I get a display manager to start a boot? |
| 16:58.26 | qman | Anyone know if CVE-2014-0224 is going to get patched on squeeze? Right now only wheezy is patched |
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| 17:00.11 | HD|Lapto1 | hey |
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| 17:01.36 | tonsofpcs | what ftp server should I use to allow for manually configured users only (not system users)? |
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| 17:05.03 | ivanshmakov | tonsofpcs: Curiously, what’d you use an FTP server for? |
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| 17:23.14 | desfucon | hi |
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| 17:24.09 | tonsofpcs | ivanshmakov: I need to allow file delivery from an automated process that only supports ftp. |
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| 17:24.38 | ddsh_ | I'm trying to upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze from a CD, but when I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, it tells me that grub, grub-common, and lvm2 have been kept back and nothing else happens |
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| 17:25.22 | wols_ | ddsh_: how did you change your sources.list? |
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| 17:25.55 | ddsh_ | wols_, apt-cdrom add |
| 17:26.07 | ddsh_ | and commented the others in sources.list |
| 17:26.32 | wols_ | !kept back |
| 17:26.32 | dpkg | i guess kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "full-upgrade" and old packages need to be removed as part of the upgrade. To investigate, "aptitude -s install <kept-package>". See also http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 and ask me about <full-upgrade>. |
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| 17:27.45 | ddsh_ | wols_, there doesn't seem to be anything on hold. |
| 17:27.58 | desfucon | why when i startx it start in the next ableilave virtual console instead of F7? |
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| 17:29.53 | ddsh_ | wols_, and nothing is upgraaded at all. |
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| 17:31.17 | wols_ | ddsh_: dplg -l libc6 |tail -1 |
| 17:31.31 | wols_ | dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1 |
| 17:31.31 | dpkg | ii libc6 |tail -1 2.9-4.2 wols_'s private stamp collection |
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| 17:37.06 | ddsh_ | wols_, https://www.dropbox.com/s/vqic06ymyuhyh5c/IMG_20140605_123325.jpg |
| 17:37.38 | desfucon | also im trying enlinghtenment |
| 17:37.53 | desfucon | but startx enlinghtenment_start |
| 17:38.19 | desfucon | start enlinghtenment but it starts with a xterm console full of status, and i cant get rid of it |
| 17:38.40 | desfucon | please correct my english too ;) |
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| 17:39.24 | wols_ | ddsh_: what happens if you apt-get install libc6 ? it should then install the new libc6 from squeeze |
| 17:39.50 | wols_ | desfucon: then obviously your E has some errors I guess |
| 17:39.52 | ddsh_ | wols_ libc6 is already the newest version |
| 17:40.10 | wols_ | ddsh_: apt-cache policy then, and apt-cache policy libc6 |
| 17:40.21 | wols_ | ddsh_: you did run apt-get update, right? |
| 17:40.43 | ddsh_ | wols_ I did. |
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| 17:42.30 | ddsh_ | wols_ https://www.dropbox.com/s/ix0s3fsdb7oeptl/IMG_20140605_124108.jpg |
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| 17:44.24 | wols_ | ddsh_: wrong CD |
| 17:44.27 | olskolirc | can someone help me get the right video driver for my Debian Wheezy running Nvidia Gforce 6100 |
| 17:44.33 | olskolirc | my display is bleeding all over the place |
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| 17:45.04 | ddsh_ | wols_, really? how? |
| 17:45.07 | wols_ | ddsh_: http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/6.0.9/amd64/iso-cd/ cd1 from there |
| 17:45.22 | mtn | olskolirc: have you followed the wiki for nvidia? |
| 17:45.23 | wols_ | live cd is not a debian cd. debian is not ubuntu |
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| 17:45.41 | bin_sh | is openssl part of linux-libc-dev? |
| 17:45.55 | wols_ | bin_sh: afaik no |
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| 17:46.18 | bin_sh | wols_: hm okay so then has the openssl patch not been pushed yet? |
| 17:46.20 | ddsh_ | wols_, thanks :( what do you mean that it's not a debian CD? |
| 17:46.40 | lift | msg dpkg help |
| 17:46.41 | wols_ | bin_sh: which one do you mean? the one from today or heartbleed from weeks ago? |
| 17:46.51 | lift | something something forgot a slash... |
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| 17:47.00 | bin_sh | the one from today |
| 17:47.12 | wols_ | ddsh_: debian live is a different project, part of debian but still a different project |
| 17:47.30 | wols_ | !tracker of doom |
| 17:47.31 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
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| 17:48.08 | wols_ | bin_sh: security.debian.org either it's there and then it's fixed, or it's not |
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| 17:48.29 | bin_sh | wols_: do i add that to my mirrorlist? |
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| 17:50.09 | wols_ | bin_sh: add what? |
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| 17:50.26 | wols_ | !tell bin_sh about wheezy sources.list |
| 17:50.26 | bin_sh | wols_: shouldnt it be in the repo? |
| 17:50.36 | wols_ | bin_sh: should WHAT be in there? |
| 17:50.40 | bin_sh | THE OPENSSL PATCH |
| 17:50.51 | bin_sh | jesus doesn't anyone keep up |
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| 17:51.10 | ddsh_ | wols_, thanks |
| 17:51.17 | wols_ | bin_sh: have fun with your attitude solving your own problems. have a good day |
| 17:51.24 | wols_ | !volunteers |
| 17:51.24 | dpkg | Volunteers are people who do things for you for free. All the helpers on #debian are volunteers. Please treat them with respect and don't expect them to follow your orders. Insulting them or the things that they have worked hard to create is not a good way of getting help. |
| 17:51.29 | bin_sh | it's on the site, but it's not in the repo is what i'm saying |
| 17:52.15 | desfucon | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.21 | dondelelcaro | bin_sh: if the DSA has been published, it's in the security mirror. |
| 17:52.28 | wols_ | desfucon: /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 17:52.44 | tremon | it's dsa 2950 |
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| 17:53.05 | bin_sh | dondelelcaro: yeah that's what i would think, but i guess only for wheezy. has all support for squeeze been dropped? |
| 17:53.34 | dondelelcaro | bin_sh: that's just for wheezy. I'm not sure if squeeze has been updated yet |
| 17:53.42 | bin_sh | okay |
| 17:53.48 | bin_sh | thanks |
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| 17:53.50 | bin_sh | sorry for caps before |
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| 17:57.29 | desfucon | hi |
| 17:57.46 | desfucon | any y volunteer who knows how to configure startx? |
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| 17:57.55 | desfucon | im not using xdm |
| 17:58.08 | desfucon | i want to startx enlightenment and be able to use enlightenment |
| 17:58.24 | desfucon | startx xfce4 and be able to use xfce4 |
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| 17:58.56 | desfucon | it starts enlightenment but also start a console with status and i cant close it |
| 17:58.56 | mtn | desfucon: look in the debian wiki and the arch linux wiki has great info, too |
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| 17:59.27 | desfucon | mtn it works wonderful, till i did an upgrade |
| 17:59.38 | desfucon | so i thing this was the righ place to look for help |
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| 17:59.41 | desfucon | thanks |
| 17:59.48 | mtn | desfucon: an upgrade should not change things in your home folder ;) |
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| 18:00.08 | desfucon | whats the matter with my home foler? |
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| 18:00.32 | mtn | desfucon: running startx looks in your home folder for .xinitrc |
| 18:00.53 | desfucon | i dont have a .xinitrc file |
| 18:01.01 | desfucon | i want to make the changes global |
| 18:01.14 | desfucon | i read the man startx |
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| 18:01.40 | desfucon | but it dont say anything about how config files syntax works |
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| 18:01.56 | tremon | desfucon: there are no config files. They're runnable scripts |
| 18:02.02 | vallabh | how to install php5.5 with stable source list? |
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| 18:02.38 | vallabh | how to install php5.5 with stable source list? |
| 18:03.00 | desfucon | tremon its not the same? |
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| 18:03.11 | martinjungblut | vallabh: check if it is in Debian backports |
| 18:03.20 | dondelelcaro | bin_sh: that said, if you're running squeeze in production, you should jump in and help with the squeeze LTS project. |
| 18:03.25 | martinjungblut | vallabh: http://backports.debian.org/ |
| 18:03.25 | dondelelcaro | bin_sh: or otherwise support it |
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| 18:03.45 | martinjungblut | vallabh: if so, enable the backports repository, apt-get update, and simply install it as you would normally |
| 18:04.18 | vallabh | how to enable backports in source.list |
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| 18:04.27 | martinjungblut | vallabh: if it is not available in backports, try pinning: https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
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| 18:04.48 | martinjungblut | vallabh: the instructions are right there in the backports website |
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| 18:05.34 | vallabh | thanks martinjungblut |
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| 18:06.25 | tremon | desfucon: not really. A "config file" isn't directly executable |
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| 18:07.03 | tremon | but if you're looking for syntax, I recommend reading http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide |
| 18:07.33 | desfucon | i just want to configure startx |
| 18:07.40 | desfucon | not being a bash guru |
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| 18:08.30 | tremon | well, startx relies heavily on other programs. It can't be configured itself, you can only tell it which scripts (or programs) to execute |
| 18:08.58 | tremon | and you don't do the latter via a config file either, but as positional parameters (i.e. command line arguments) |
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| 18:09.51 | tremon | if you need to "configure" your X environment, then the best solution is to use a display manager |
| 18:10.36 | desfucon | ok, thanks |
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| 18:20.11 | martinjungblut | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:20.51 | martinjungblut | desfucon: /etc/X11/Xsession |
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| 18:24.01 | desfucon | martinjungblut yes that was the file |
| 18:25.17 | desfucon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:25.41 | desfucon | i deleted and now its working in virtual console F7 |
| 18:25.47 | desfucon | :) |
| 18:25.50 | desfucon | thank you all |
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| 18:26.04 | martinjungblut | desfucon: that means is isn't going to execute /etc/X11/Xsession |
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| 18:26.24 | desfucon | with the . or with out it? |
| 18:26.29 | martinjungblut | desfucon: without it |
| 18:26.49 | martinjungblut | desfucon: no problem there, it will use its default options |
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| 18:27.30 | martinjungblut | desfucon: but bear in mind you're dropping Debian's default options :P |
| 18:27.57 | desfucon | now the thing is , when start with startx /etc/X11/Xsession enligtenment_start start pretty good |
| 18:28.24 | desfucon | but with startx enlightenment_start it still start with the anoying status window |
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| 18:28.45 | desfucon | im trying to figure it out |
| 18:29.03 | ddsh_ | I need to upgrade the kernel to a newer version in debian 6 and do it offline. When I try to do it, I get a message saying it would brweak intramfs-tools (directly with dpkg). What would be the correct way of going about this? |
| 18:29.03 | martinjungblut | what you should probably do |
| 18:29.11 | martinjungblut | is create a .xinitrc in your $HOME |
| 18:29.22 | martinjungblut | /home/<youruser>/.xinitrc |
| 18:29.37 | martinjungblut | and there write a little script.. startx will execute this file whenever you run startx |
| 18:29.59 | martinjungblut | there you add "exec enlightenment_start", without these double quotes |
| 18:30.26 | martinjungblut | echo "exec enlightenment_start" > ~/.xinitrc |
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| 18:30.51 | martinjungblut | if you run startx then, X will start, and it will source your .xinitrc |
| 18:31.13 | martinjungblut | and therefore make enlightenment run on top of X |
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| 18:31.19 | desfucon | :) |
| 18:31.23 | desfucon | it works |
| 18:31.38 | desfucon | thank for your time martinjungblut |
| 18:31.55 | desfucon | very confusing all this of X |
| 18:32.34 | martinjungblut | "exec" is needed so that enlightenment starts as a subprocess on top of X |
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| 18:33.23 | martinjungblut | desfucon: you'll certainly get the hang of it ;) |
| 18:33.41 | jelly-home | ddsh_: where did you get the newer kernel from? |
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| 18:36.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i am trying to simululate a nagios user running something with sudo. do i just do a sudo -u nagios /etc/init.d/puppet restart ? |
| 18:37.21 | emerson_ | hello everyone... |
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| 18:37.34 | emerson_ | How can a fix it : http://paste.debian.net/103623/ |
| 18:37.41 | ddsh_ | jelly-home backports |
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| 18:37.52 | buu | Eryn_1983_FL: You might want -i |
| 18:37.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 18:38.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | that seeems to work.. |
| 18:38.30 | bin_sh | dondelelcaro: nah i just have a few hobbyist servers with it |
| 18:38.43 | bin_sh | i mean i dont run in production |
| 18:38.45 | bin_sh | it's just for fun |
| 18:38.51 | bin_sh | minecraft and irc and stuff |
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| 18:39.28 | ddsh_ | jelly-home, I just installed the backports initramfs and that did it, now need to solve the rest of the dependencies. |
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| 18:42.23 | RoyK | hm... updating from security.debian.org: 31,3 kB/s 2t 31m 42ss |
| 18:42.42 | RoyK | are there mirrors of this thing? seems the last openssl bug is having some impact :P |
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| 19:02.13 | jelly-home | htroyack: sure. dh_shlibdeps from debhelper package may be useful in your debian/rules (or some other, less sane way you create your package) |
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| 19:03.29 | htroyack | jelly-home: Thank you very much! |
| 19:03.52 | average | I have a problem. I'd like to run lxterminal and xterm |
| 19:04.00 | average | however .. they seem to have conflicting settings |
| 19:04.18 | average | xterm for example needs stuff in ~/.inputrc to be able to use all the GNU readline stuff correctly |
| 19:04.34 | average | and it also needs things in ~/.Xresources to have a proper font and color theme |
| 19:04.46 | average | now if I make xterm happy with ~/.inputrc, then lxterminal breaks |
| 19:04.52 | jelly-home | average: I think .inputrc is for bash and readline using apps, not xterm |
| 19:04.53 | average | if I make lxterminal happy then xterm breaks |
| 19:05.08 | average | jelly-home: ok but.. |
| 19:05.13 | average | I mean |
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| 19:05.53 | average | there is one solution... detecting which is the current terminal application in ~/.bashrc and running custom stuff depending on whether bash is running inside lxterminal/xterm/rxvt/urxvt/gnome-terminal/etc |
| 19:05.57 | jelly-home | average: what kinds of workarounds are you putting in there? Which value for TERM do you use inside xterm and lxterminal? |
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| 19:06.18 | RoyK | https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00129.html FYI |
| 19:06.24 | average | user@xw:~$ env | grep TERM |
| 19:06.24 | average | TERM=xterm-256color |
| 19:06.24 | average | COLORTERM=xfce4-terminal |
| 19:06.28 | average | jelly-home: ^^ |
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| 19:06.50 | jelly-home | average: the latter one does not look correct for xterm |
| 19:07.07 | jelly-home | I have no idea whether it's correct for lxterminal |
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| 19:07.40 | average | I've recently re-discovered xterm and would like to switch to it permanently.. but would like to have it as interim terminal until then |
| 19:07.47 | average | so basically that's why I want the two to co-exist |
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| 19:08.19 | srged | guys I installed java, yet when I try to Auto-Detect GPU on nvidia website, it tells me "java required".... any clue? |
| 19:08.45 | jelly-home | average: what fails to work in xterm if you do not have an ~/.inputrc at all? |
| 19:09.26 | jelly-home | srged: which browser and version do you use, and what's the exact URL? |
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| 19:09.59 | average | jelly-home: alt+backspace fails |
| 19:10.34 | jelly-home | average: what's that supposed to do? |
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| 19:11.32 | user1 | is there a similar free tool for linux like this ? http://www.5pmweb.com/images/timeline_feature.gif |
| 19:11.50 | Luz_ | srged: what architecture is your java for? x64 x86? |
| 19:12.56 | average | jelly-home: kills the previous word |
| 19:13.07 | srged | x86 Luz_ |
| 19:13.23 | srged | jelly-home: iceweasel, fresly installed via apt get |
| 19:13.28 | dondelelcaro | user1: there are a few; just search for a project planner |
| 19:13.35 | srged | http://www.geforce.com/drivers |
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| 19:14.28 | jelly-home | average: in what |
| 19:14.33 | jelly-home | vim? emacs? |
| 19:14.34 | average | jelly-home: emacs |
| 19:14.42 | average | jelly-home: emacs mode that is.. which is the default one |
| 19:14.56 | average | M-backspace |
| 19:15.06 | average | jelly-home: you can try it right now if you want, it'll work |
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| 19:15.15 | average | (unless you're in vi mode) |
| 19:15.20 | jelly-home | so it's actuall Meta-Backspace, not alt ;-) |
| 19:15.37 | average | jelly-home: if you will.. |
| 19:15.39 | jelly-home | has Meta mapped to windows keys and Alt is actually Aly |
| 19:15.42 | average | ah, ok |
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| 19:16.15 | user1 | dondelelcaro, I can see only one in repos "planner" |
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| 19:16.51 | average | jelly-home: it's a tricky thing with these terminals.. |
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| 19:17.22 | average | when you think you've got them working, that's when they sneak up on you and it turns out they don't really work as you'd expect heh |
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| 19:17.34 | average | I'll either spend more time in configuring or just return to lxterminal and that's that |
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| 19:19.20 | srged | jelly-home: ? |
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| 19:19.53 | jelly-home | average: without .inputrc, TERM=xterm-256color, unset COLORTERM, "DISPLAY= emacs" works with Meta- _and_ Alt-Backspace in lxterminal; fails in xterm in different ways |
| 19:20.25 | jelly-home | srged: righto. Does the java plugin work at all? |
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| 19:20.58 | jelly-home | srged: http://www.java.com/verify/ |
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| 19:22.58 | jelly-home | srged: is your actual goal installing non-free drivers for nvidia? |
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| 19:23.50 | srged | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.11 | srged | jelly-home: my goal is to install sound and video on this fresh debian :) |
| 19:24.35 | srged | i installed the standaron one, no gui. then i added lxde desktop... still have no sound and video drivers.. |
| 19:24.48 | jelly-home | srged: what fails with video? |
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| 19:25.38 | jelly-home | srged: does X not start at all? |
| 19:25.43 | srged | jelly-home: look I was following the turorial on wiki debian, i installed the nvidial kernel stuff, after reboot i dont see no login page just a dark page... |
| 19:26.01 | srged | I do have desktop now. LXDE |
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| 19:26.56 | jelly-home | srged: so you fixed the desktop, and you have X working. |
| 19:27.13 | jelly-home | or is it just installed? |
| 19:28.26 | srged | x is working fine. what I was saying is that maybe i dont have sound bcz i installed just the standard debian with no guy and then added lxde |
| 19:28.41 | srged | coz ive been told the sound should work out of te box, yet it doesnt .. |
| 19:28.42 | emerson_ | * jelly-home: sorry / |
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| 19:31.36 | srged | jelly-home: the point is that I have no sound and no video. so my goal is to get these two working |
| 19:32.26 | srged | life is tough without sound, i connected my phone to the audio system, this is how i am surviving |
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| 19:33.54 | average | is antialiasing via ~/.fonts.conf bad for the eyes or something ? |
| 19:34.21 | average | I know it may be a silly question but I wonder if anyone else is bothered by anti-aliasing.. or.. is it ok for prolongued periods of time ? |
| 19:34.26 | average | or is it just a question of adjusting to it |
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| 19:36.07 | SuperNull | guys i forget what im doing wrong here.. not debian specific but.. trying to create a simple 'dialog' shell app and the lines are not printing right.. almost like an invalid font.. or terminal printenv shows terminal as 'linux' securecrt is setup for 'linux' also .. and im using a console font on secure crt .. any ideaS? |
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| 19:38.40 | jelly-home | srged: nah, sound should be there by default. is there anything in "lspci -nn" looking like a sound card? |
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| 19:41.51 | srged | jelly-home: http://paste.debian.net/103632 |
| 19:43.02 | srged | 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 03) |
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| 19:52.20 | CodePulsar | Does SSD Trimming need special treatment for encypted partitions with cryptsetup ? |
| 19:52.38 | CodePulsar | I have a cron job /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim but I'm not sure it is working |
| 19:52.59 | CodePulsar | I have 3 encrypted partitions: / , /home, swap |
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| 19:53.18 | srged | CodePulsar: why use software encryption when ssd has builtin encryption anyway |
| 19:54.05 | CodePulsar | srged: I've enabled it by mistake to be honest |
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| 19:54.15 | CodePulsar | now I have to deal with it |
| 19:54.28 | level7 | hi all.... anybody has a good advice regarding laptop and linux? :) |
| 19:54.47 | level7 | I was looking to the DELL XPS 15, but it seems they are not selling English-US keyboards in Europe.. quite annoying |
| 19:55.00 | qman | srged: because the hardware encryption relies on your hardware vendor to make perfect implementations with no bugs or backdoors |
| 19:55.18 | CodePulsar | I don't have control over the hardware |
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| 19:55.53 | qman | software encryption can at least be audited and patched |
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| 19:56.03 | CodePulsar | Exactly. |
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| 19:57.30 | squisher | level7, while more expensive, you can change the keyboard after market |
| 19:57.44 | squisher | personally I love my T420s |
| 19:58.02 | level7 | well... thinking about the T440.... |
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| 20:00.11 | level7 | squisher: it's ridicolous that I have to break the guarantee and pay a lot of money and they cannot provide me the damn keyboard I want |
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| 20:04.19 | xlq | I'm running sid. Upgrading spams my terminal with whitespace and an occasional message, and then exits. I can't see these messages, they flash by too quickly, but the last one is "systemv-sysv:amd64 conflicts with sysvinit:amd64". |
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| 20:04.50 | squisher | level7, it is crazy, yes. I am not sure it'd void your warranty, but don't quote me on that |
| 20:04.57 | srged | how can I slow down my mouse? |
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| 20:05.23 | srged | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:08.37 | mtn | xlq: testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) |
| 20:09.20 | xlq | Oh. |
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| 20:09.35 | xlq | My apologies. |
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| 20:10.54 | level7 | any other advice like HP or DELL or .... other vendors? :) |
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| 20:11.48 | srged | who can help me put sound on my machine? |
| 20:12.11 | linagee_ | does anyone know if there is a squeeze openssl 0.9.8za? (or is 0.9.8o good enough?) |
| 20:12.25 | linagee_ | (this is in relation to the latest openssl crazyness) |
| 20:12.39 | qman | linuxguy101: squeeze isn't patched yet |
| 20:12.49 | linagee_ | fun. :) |
| 20:12.51 | qman | Don't know if/when it will be |
| 20:12.57 | linagee_ | if?!!? :-/ |
| 20:13.38 | qman | I haven't been able to find an answe |
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| 20:14.33 | qman | Best I've got is this: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0224 |
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| 20:18.04 | linagee_ | qman: been vunerable since 1998 though?! that's crazyness... |
| 20:18.25 | linagee_ | "Researchers who have looked at the vulnerable piece of code say that it appears to have existed, nearly unchanged, in the OpenSSL source since 1998" http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/06/05/1359208/new-openssl-man-in-the-middle-flaw-affects-all-clients |
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| 20:19.23 | stormy3_ | i'm doing a cd install on a vmware vm, can i get to the console? i'm at the apt / configure package manager but need to add a route add to the /etc/network/interfaces file |
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| 20:24.49 | rawburt | so the Postfix package does not provide mail, any thoughts on this |
| 20:24.51 | rawburt | ? |
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| 20:25.40 | qman | "mail" is a client application |
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| 20:27.25 | srged_ | I am having a hard time installing sound. can anyone help ? |
| 20:27.31 | rawburt | qman: good point. |
| 20:28.21 | rawburt | so I need heirloom-mail |
| 20:28.35 | rawburt | heirloom-mailx* |
| 20:28.52 | qman | Yes, or one of the other packages that provide other versions |
| 20:28.59 | qman | I prefer heirloom |
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| 20:32.57 | skribblezatcha | srged_: how dont you have sound by default? |
| 20:33.35 | srged_ | yeah Ive been told it should have been there by default. well, its not , two days already soundless :/ |
| 20:33.48 | srged_ | I installed debian standard. no gui |
| 20:33.53 | srged_ | then apt get lxde |
| 20:34.07 | srged_ | so maybe this is why I lack some packages? |
| 20:34.19 | HD|Lapto1 | hey |
| 20:34.25 | HD|Lapto1 | anyone here using git-buildpackage? |
| 20:34.38 | HD|Lapto1 | i got an error with debsign due to no signing key |
| 20:34.49 | HD|Lapto1 | but i do not want to throw 5 hours of building away |
| 20:34.53 | HD|Lapto1 | how do I resume?! |
| 20:35.31 | skribblezatcha | ok srged_. apt-get install alsa-utils |
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| 20:36.03 | skribblezatcha | tell me once you have that installed please srged_. |
| 20:36.20 | srged_ | ok |
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| 20:39.07 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: done. now how to I start it? |
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| 20:39.52 | skribblezatcha | ok srged_. go ahead and run apt-get install pulseaudio |
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| 20:40.53 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: its already installed. i did it earlier |
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| 20:41.09 | srged_ | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded. |
| 20:41.18 | rawburt | qman: I don't know if you're a maintainer, but I think the package maintainers also prefer heirloom |
| 20:41.43 | skribblezatcha | ok cool. now if you go down to the volume icon on your panel srged_, right click on it and go to sound settings and tell me when you are there please. |
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| 20:42.39 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: no volume icon in lxde |
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| 20:43.25 | skribblezatcha | there should be srged_. i had one when i used it a while ago. ok, well in your menu, see if you see something sound related..then click on it to open it up. |
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| 20:43.46 | skribblezatcha | i am not too familiar with lxde though since i use Xfce. |
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| 20:45.54 | awssswa | does anyone have experience with BOOTICE? |
| 20:46.10 | srged_ | you mean Booty? |
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| 20:46.44 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: |
| 20:46.45 | awssswa | so I can manipulate the MBR |
| 20:46.54 | srged_ | so now what to do |
| 20:47.26 | skribblezatcha | go to your menu and find something sound related and open it up srged_. look for alsamixer or something like that. |
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| 20:47.43 | awssswa | well, i want to usb boot my debian and it's stuck in a boot loop "booting from usb" |
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| 20:48.18 | srged_ | i have a mixer i installed myself |
| 20:48.33 | skribblezatcha | no alsamixer anywhere? |
| 20:49.20 | srged_ | no |
| 20:49.25 | srged_ | just "Mixer" |
| 20:49.55 | skribblezatcha | ok, open mixer and tell me what you see there srged_. |
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| 20:51.59 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: where do i upload a sceen capture? |
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| 20:52.56 | skribblezatcha | use http://picpaste.com srged_. |
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| 20:53.48 | srged_ | http://picpaste.com/2014-06-05-225123_1280x800_scrot-J9x1jFj0.png |
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| 20:55.22 | amflir | I'm trying to find and copy all images but I get this error, can you help me solve it? http://paste.debian.net/103638/ |
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| 20:55.58 | skribblezatcha | ok nice srged_..now for controls, click on that and tell me if you see anything else there once you do that please. |
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| 20:57.41 | srged_ | http://picpaste.com/2014-06-05-225704_1280x800_scrot-CwnMa0xu.png |
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| 20:58.31 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: or maybe should i try a reboot? maybe the stuff didnt start yet ? |
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| 20:59.11 | skribblezatcha | srged_: before you do that, are there any other options for you sound card? |
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| 21:01.07 | skribblezatcha | also on the right there srged_, the right slider of master, unmute that. |
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| 21:02.12 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: yes i unmuted and also tried any other possibility there. and no sound |
| 21:02.48 | skribblezatcha | ok, well then yeah man, try and restart and see if that helps. then come back and we can see what else there is to do if its not working. |
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| 21:03.56 | srged_ | Okay brb |
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| 21:06.50 | srged_ | no sound |
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| 21:08.48 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: |
| 21:09.07 | skribblezatcha | bummer. |
| 21:09.20 | srged_ | ... |
| 21:09.25 | skribblezatcha | ok, go to synaptic and see if alsa-mixer is installed srged_, and lets see if that helps. |
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| 21:10.07 | skribblezatcha | also srged_, make sure that you apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:10.10 | srged_ | i dont think i have it in lxde |
| 21:10.46 | skribblezatcha | run this srged_: apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get install alsa-mixer |
| 21:11.21 | skribblezatcha | well sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install alsa-mixer |
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| 21:12.23 | srged_ | E: Unable to locate package alsa-mixer |
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| 21:14.07 | skribblezatcha | sudo apt-get install libasound2 srged_ |
| 21:14.41 | srged_ | libasound2 set to manually installed. |
| 21:14.41 | srged_ | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 21:15.32 | skribblezatcha | ok, sudo apt-get install alsamixergui && sudo apt-get install alsaplayer-alsa |
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| 21:16.35 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: done |
| 21:17.02 | skribblezatcha | cool, and also sudo apt-get install alsa-base |
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| 21:18.15 | srged_ | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 21:19.01 | skribblezatcha | ok cool..and run this: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-module-x11 && sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-utils |
| 21:19.15 | skribblezatcha | you can just copy and paste that if you want. :) |
| 21:19.43 | srged_ | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 21:19.45 | srged_ | both |
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| 21:20.34 | skribblezatcha | ok cool. now check this one out..go to menu and look for alsamixer or something alsa related srged_..and see if there is anything there. |
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| 21:21.34 | srged_ | I now have, alsamixer and alsaplayer |
| 21:21.53 | linagee_ | which channel can I join where I can prod people to push 0.9.8za to squeeze? |
| 21:22.13 | skribblezatcha | ok cool, open alsamixer srged_, and see what you can do from in there. |
| 21:22.55 | skribblezatcha | i dont know linagee_, i guess here. lol |
| 21:24.36 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: alsamix wouldnt open |
| 21:24.46 | srged_ | I played with alsaplayer and nothing.. |
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| 21:25.38 | skribblezatcha | open that other mixer that you had srged_, and see if anything new is up with that. |
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| 21:25.51 | srged_ | ok |
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| 21:26.14 | srged_ | nothing new in the old mixer |
| 21:26.44 | skribblezatcha | ok, srged_, lets go to synaptic and see if gstreamer is installed. there are a few of them..so lets check that out. |
| 21:27.08 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: i dont think I have synaptics in LXDE |
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| 21:27.47 | buu | So anyone have any brilliant suggestions for reattaching a 'broken' screen session that refuses to detatch? |
| 21:27.53 | skribblezatcha | ok, run this srged_. sudo apt-get install synaptic && sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-alsa |
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| 21:28.36 | dondelelcaro | buu: screen -Dr; should work |
| 21:28.45 | dondelelcaro | buu: if it doesn't, then you'll have to tell us what the error message is |
| 21:28.59 | dondelelcaro | buu: you might also need to give us the output of screen -list; |
| 21:29.10 | srged_ | done |
| 21:29.13 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: |
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| 21:30.00 | buu | dondelelcaro: There is no error message, it merely hangs after the command (any command); -ls shows (02/17/2014 12:36:39 PM)(Attached) |
| 21:30.03 | skribblezatcha | ok cool, now go to menu and find synaptic..its probably in system or something. once its opened let me know ok? |
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| 21:30.27 | skribblezatcha | o, try the alsamixer again real quick to see if it opens too man. |
| 21:31.44 | srged_ | alsamixer still doesnt open, but i got into sypatics. now what |
| 21:32.03 | skribblezatcha | ok cool, click on search..and then type gstreamer in there..and hit enter. |
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| 21:32.46 | srged_ | done |
| 21:33.20 | dondelelcaro | buu: screen -D; should do that |
| 21:33.35 | xeno_ | So I am trying to do debconf-set-selections over multiple ssh calls. Are these selections ephemeral per session or something? |
| 21:35.26 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: now what |
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| 21:35.43 | dondelelcaro | buu: if not, kill off whatever the terminal is that is attached |
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| 21:36.31 | buu | dondelelcaro: How do I tell what is attached to it? |
| 21:36.38 | buu | (I already closed the term window) |
| 21:37.01 | xeno_ | Also, the man page mentions debconf-get-selections, but which shows no such beast, even though it finds debconf-set-selections. |
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| 21:38.13 | skribblezatcha | ok select gstreamer0.10-nice for install, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer1.0-nice, gstreamer1.0-plugins-base, gstreamer1.0-plugins-good, gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly, gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio, gstreamer1.0-x..and install all of those by hitting apply after you have checked them all off for installation srged_. |
| 21:38.17 | dondelelcaro | buu: ps output will tell you |
| 21:38.30 | xeno_ | And apt-cache search does not find 'debconf-get-selections' |
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| 21:40.51 | buu | dondelelcaro: I don't have any instances of 'screen', just two instances of SCREEN |
| 21:41.37 | dondelelcaro | buu: SCREEN is the session, screen is the process which has to be attached... so it should be ok |
| 21:41.42 | dondelelcaro | buu: what state is SCREEN in? |
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| 21:42.22 | xeno_ | I see it's in debconf-utils. However, it seems like since it is, it would be nice if apt-cache search picked it up. |
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| 21:42.39 | xeno_ | I see there's a bug on it anyway. Seems like a good addition to the bug. |
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| 21:43.12 | buu | dondelelcaro: R 0 24173 1 0 80 0 6436 7979 ? ? 01:14:36 screen |
| 21:43.21 | dondelelcaro | buu: that's not SCREEN. |
| 21:43.33 | buu | dondelelcaro: It is |
| 21:43.44 | buu | Its the same pid as SCREEN from earlier |
| 21:43.49 | buu | It just happened to be lower cased |
| 21:43.59 | dondelelcaro | it should be upper cased if it's the session |
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| 21:44.30 | buu | dondelelcaro: if I do ps aux it shows as SCREEN, if I do ps el; it shows as screen |
| 21:44.50 | buu | root 24173 0.0 0.1 31916 6436 ? Rs Feb17 76:16 SCREEN |
| 21:44.50 | dondelelcaro | buu: ah; ok; yeah, ps aux; output is what you want to see |
| 21:45.19 | dondelelcaro | buu: OK. it's sort of odd that it's in state R too... |
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| 21:46.04 | dondelelcaro | buu: and does it match thie pid in the screen -list output? |
| 21:46.17 | buu | Yes |
| 21:46.34 | dondelelcaro | buu: ok. Are there any other screen processes? |
| 21:46.58 | buu | Yes |
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| 21:47.11 | skribblezatcha | srged_: whats happening over there man? |
| 21:47.12 | average | dondelelcaro: yes, virtually everyone who runs screen has at least one screen process running right now |
| 21:47.18 | buu | dondelelcaro: They attach and detach fine. |
| 21:47.35 | nodata | How i can Resolve the host of ipv6 ? |
| 21:47.39 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: all, except one, were already installed. so only one i intalled. its done |
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| 21:48.12 | dondelelcaro | buu: really odd; does screen -D 24173; hang too? |
| 21:48.48 | skribblezatcha | ok cool, so you installed all of the rest that werent already installed yet? |
| 21:48.49 | nodata | How i can lookup the host of ipv6 ? |
| 21:48.58 | average | nodata: http://serverfault.com/a/7058 ? |
| 21:49.08 | buu | dondelelcaro: Oh yep. |
| 21:49.08 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: exactly |
| 21:49.26 | dondelelcaro | buu: hrm... strace it and the screen process and see what happens |
| 21:49.34 | nodata | dig aaaa ipv6 host <-- show the ipv6 IP |
| 21:49.41 | skribblezatcha | ok cool. now see if you can open mixer and anything happen srged_. also see if you can open alsamixer now. |
| 21:49.45 | average | what nodata is asking is called rDNS right(reverse DNS) ? |
| 21:49.46 | nodata | any command which show the host of ipv6 |
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| 21:49.51 | nodata | yep |
| 21:49.56 | nodata | rDNS |
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| 21:49.58 | buu | dondelelcaro: Absolutely no output |
| 21:50.04 | average | nodata: that's exactly what I pointed you to.. those can do rDNS |
| 21:50.14 | nodata | what command ? |
| 21:50.25 | average | nodata: dig or host, you dig ? |
| 21:50.39 | nodata | dig not show correct host |
| 21:50.58 | average | dig doesn't show the correct host ? oh my god , oh my god.. tragedy |
| 21:51.03 | nodata | dig aaaa ipv6Host <-- work perfectly |
| 21:51.10 | nodata | but |
| 21:51.19 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: nothing changed. |
| 21:51.23 | nodata | dig aaaa ipv6 <-- not works perfectly |
| 21:51.32 | dondelelcaro | buu: from strace? |
| 21:51.40 | dondelelcaro | buu: when you strace the pid? |
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| 21:52.04 | dondelelcaro | buu: hrm... it must be spinning in some system call or something else... not really sure, unfortunately |
| 21:52.54 | average | nodata: http://www.madboa.com/geek/dig/#how-reverse |
| 21:52.57 | skribblezatcha | srged_: try and restart and see if that helps man. |
| 21:53.05 | srged_ | ok brb |
| 21:53.12 | skribblezatcha | ok cool. |
| 21:53.30 | buu | dondelelcaro: Yes, it is madness =[ |
| 21:53.47 | buu | Sad days. I will send it to the farm. Up country. |
| 21:53.51 | buu | Where it will frollick all day. |
| 21:54.09 | average | buu: are we talking about a cat ? or dog ? |
| 21:54.12 | dondelelcaro | buu: probably time to reboot anyway; there are kernel local root exploits which were just patched today. |
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| 21:56.10 | buu | dondelelcaro: Oh .. good. |
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| 22:00.57 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: nothing |
| 22:01.38 | skribblezatcha | hmmmm. i am almost dumbfounded to be honest. i dont know what to say. |
| 22:01.58 | srged_ | ... |
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| 22:02.17 | skribblezatcha | i know right. |
| 22:02.19 | skribblezatcha | brb man. |
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| 22:02.24 | srged_ | ok |
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| 22:08.03 | skribblezatcha | are you still out there? |
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| 22:08.50 | BackEndCoder | sorry guys |
| 22:08.56 | BackEndCoder | having problems installing skype |
| 22:09.03 | BackEndCoder | have my multi arch sorted |
| 22:09.18 | BackEndCoder | but apt-get -f install says i should remove skype:i386 |
| 22:09.19 | BackEndCoder | awkward |
| 22:09.22 | BackEndCoder | any tuts ? |
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| 22:10.09 | srged_ | skribblezatcha: yes |
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| 22:10.16 | srged_ | I'm here, soundless |
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| 22:12.10 | hiyo | How do I edit the grub confg to include this fix http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=61840 |
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| 22:13.42 | aural | I am having troubles using a mobile scanner Brother DSmobile 620 in a linux environment: http://privatepaste.com/cc1fac2920 |
| 22:14.07 | skribblezatcha | ok cool srged_ . |
| 22:14.10 | skribblezatcha | lol |
| 22:14.32 | teraflop | hiyo: are you kiddin' |
| 22:14.44 | srged_ | :) |
| 22:14.48 | skribblezatcha | you went and got skype from the site BackEndCoder ? |
| 22:14.58 | average | hiyo: you edit it /etc/default/grub I believe |
| 22:15.04 | average | hiyo: and then you update-grub .. |
| 22:15.35 | hiyo | average: thank you, I don't pass them in as kernel options or anything? |
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| 22:17.15 | average | hiyo: well .. that's what happens actually, they are passed as kernel options |
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| 22:18.36 | skribblezatcha | srged_ run this: sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins && sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins-equal |
| 22:18.56 | BackEndCoder | skribblezatcha, yeah doesn't like my jessie repo don't think |
| 22:19.03 | BackEndCoder | its getting confused |
| 22:19.12 | BackEndCoder | i'm a wheexy jessy sid mix up |
| 22:19.26 | BackEndCoder | sot he apt-get -f install just tells me to remove skype |
| 22:19.34 | aural | Has anyone else used any moden/recently released paper scanner hardware components with a linux environment? |
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| 22:19.45 | BackEndCoder | i will just put it on my phone its cool |
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| 22:20.14 | skribblezatcha | ok, do this BackEndCoder ..run sudo apt -t install testing skype |
| 22:20.36 | cra1g321 | ^ thats wrong |
| 22:20.38 | srged_ | libasound2-plugins is already the newest version. |
| 22:20.46 | srged_ | E: Unable to locate package libasound2-plugins-equal |
| 22:21.01 | cra1g321 | the install comes after the rep |
| 22:21.11 | BackEndCoder | E: Package 'skype:i386' has no installation candidate |
| 22:21.12 | skribblezatcha | sorry, thanks cra1g321 . |
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| 22:21.28 | cra1g321 | for example - sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install package |
| 22:21.41 | skribblezatcha | sudo apt -t testing install skype |
| 22:22.05 | BackEndCoder | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). |
| 22:22.05 | skribblezatcha | sudo apt-get -t testing install skype BackEndCoder . |
| 22:22.20 | BackEndCoder | same deal |
| 22:22.28 | BackEndCoder | it want to remove skpye on -f |
| 22:22.55 | skribblezatcha | ok thanks srged_ . |
| 22:23.20 | BackEndCoder | http://pastebin.com/H2kBpug4 |
| 22:23.26 | skribblezatcha | you grabbed skype from the jessie repo's BackEndCoder ? |
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| 22:23.38 | BackEndCoder | no from the site |
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| 22:24.16 | BackEndCoder | skype isn't in the jessie repos |
| 22:24.26 | BackEndCoder | just plugins for pigin et |
| 22:24.30 | skribblezatcha | ok thats what i wanted to know then BackEndCoder . you messed me up with what you said. |
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| 22:25.02 | skribblezatcha | run this BackEndCoder. go to where skype is and open a terminal there..and then run dpkg -i whatever skype name is. |
| 22:25.15 | BackEndCoder | already didi that |
| 22:25.22 | BackEndCoder | like an hour ago |
| 22:25.28 | BackEndCoder | its the dependances it doesn't it |
| 22:25.29 | skribblezatcha | run sudo apt-get install -f |
| 22:25.40 | BackEndCoder | that tell me to remove skype |
| 22:25.42 | skribblezatcha | let it uninstall it, and then start over again. |
| 22:25.54 | cra1g321 | BackEndCoder are you on a 64bit debian install ? |
| 22:25.57 | skribblezatcha | then see exactly what it needs..and go from there. |
| 22:26.07 | BackEndCoder | yes 64 bit |
| 22:26.13 | BackEndCoder | with i386 enabled |
| 22:26.13 | cra1g321 | did you enable multiarch ? |
| 22:26.15 | BackEndCoder | multiarch |
| 22:26.32 | cra1g321 | mm... |
| 22:26.47 | cra1g321 | i'm gonna do a quick debian install inside a virtual machine, |
| 22:26.47 | BackEndCoder | its cool |
| 22:26.51 | cra1g321 | and see what the deal is |
| 22:27.02 | skribblezatcha | you said that you already did multiarch BackEndCoder . |
| 22:27.03 | BackEndCoder | i will do a windows vm or something :D |
| 22:27.07 | BackEndCoder | yeah |
| 22:27.08 | BackEndCoder | basicly |
| 22:27.11 | BackEndCoder | it should be ok |
| 22:27.14 | BackEndCoder | but its not |
| 22:27.18 | BackEndCoder | i have multi arch |
| 22:27.22 | BackEndCoder | done it both ways |
| 22:27.29 | BackEndCoder | it has probalems with dependandies |
| 22:27.32 | skribblezatcha | well then why did you just repeat multiarch as if you didnt understand or something? |
| 22:27.35 | BackEndCoder | run apt-get -f |
| 22:27.43 | BackEndCoder | and it wants me to remove skype to fix |
| 22:27.49 | skribblezatcha | okie dokes. |
| 22:27.52 | BackEndCoder | that makes me things it has dependances it can;t install |
| 22:28.20 | BackEndCoder | this laptop has always been multiarach |
| 22:28.25 | BackEndCoder | since teamveiwer install |
| 22:28.38 | BackEndCoder | i'm only 45% n00b |
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| 22:29.21 | shingouz | BackEndCoder: plese lose the enter, it is seriously annoying to try to follow that |
| 22:29.55 | BackEndCoder | i just pasted what was there |
| 22:29.56 | BackEndCoder | sorry |
| 22:30.09 | shingouz | np |
| 22:30.14 | BackEndCoder | a gist might show it better |
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| 22:32.05 | BackEndCoder | https://gist.github.com/BackEndCoder/1c639c2682531acb0efb |
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| 22:33.07 | cra1g321 | post your sources.list too |
| 22:33.23 | average | BackEndCoder: you don't code any FrontEnd ? |
| 22:33.55 | average | BackEndCoder: you like the Back-End more ? hah ! |
| 22:34.04 | average | silly joke.. |
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| 22:37.32 | srged_ | how to detect which nvidia driver is right for me? |
| 22:37.47 | BackEndCoder | something like that average |
| 22:38.05 | R0mano | Is it possible to rename mutliple file types in multiple subdirectories with the same subdirectory name? |
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| 22:39.09 | cra1g321 | srged_ read g/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 22:39.19 | cra1g321 | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ** |
| 22:39.34 | average | R0mano: yes, describe exactly what you want to do ... |
| 22:40.43 | srged_ | thx |
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| 22:41.57 | R0mano | I have a load of .tbn files that I would like to change to .jpg. They are all within their own movie folder and then within a subdirectory called .actors. E.g moviename/.actors/actor_name1.tbn |
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| 22:42.42 | cra1g321 | BackEndCoder i messaged you |
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| 22:45.22 | average | R0mano: find path/to/tbn/files/ -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~/tbn$/jpg/; system("mv $_ $m");' |
| 22:45.39 | Volka | https://vidd.me/Q5H |
| 22:45.44 | Volka | this is how my day got started |
| 22:45.51 | average | Volka: thanks a lot!!! |
| 22:45.56 | Volka | lol |
| 22:46.00 | Volka | no problem average |
| 22:46.10 | average | Volka: ok, can you please go to #youtube now ? thanks |
| 22:46.24 | Volka | channel is dead |
| 22:46.49 | average | Volka: go to #youtube and tell those guys too, how your gradiose day got started |
| 22:46.59 | srged_ | cra1g321: I followed that tutorial twice. and each time, after reboot. my machine would boot up untill the login page, which it doesnt show. it shows a black screen instead, and keyboard doesnt work ore anything else |
| 22:47.04 | Volka | thanks average |
| 22:47.11 | average | Volka: you're welcome dude |
| 22:47.23 | cra1g321 | srged_ give me 5mins and i'll message you |
| 22:47.33 | Volka | average, can you give me a recipe for a scrambled egg? |
| 22:47.45 | srged_ | cra1g321: okay |
| 22:47.47 | average | Volka: only for 2 scrambled eggs |
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| 22:47.54 | Volka | average, thanks! |
| 22:47.58 | average | :))) |
| 22:48.18 | Volka | also can you take some photos of sidewalks for me? |
| 22:48.21 | Volka | that would be awesome. |
| 22:48.47 | average | Volka: of course, I'll go and take photos of sidewalks, that sounds like the best deal ever |
| 22:48.50 | average | :)) |
| 22:49.07 | Volka | we can compare our sidewalks |
| 22:49.24 | Volka | thanks average , you're one of a kind! |
| 22:50.01 | average | Volka: you're a legend |
| 22:51.49 | R0mano | average: Thanks I tried that but I got a syntax error. Bareword found where operator expected |
| 22:52.02 | R0mano | find */.actors -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~/tbn$/jpg/;system("mv $_ $m");' |
| 22:52.25 | average | R0mano: what is the * ? |
| 22:53.30 | R0mano | It's so that it selects every directory within the current directory. Or am I doing that wrong? |
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| 22:56.33 | A|an | I'm tring to configure Apache to use a .htpasswd file for usernames/passwords...it's recommended to create the file in any directory as long as it isn't available to a browser...I've noticed that I can look at all my dot files as well as files in, for example, /etc (like etc/apache2/apache2.conf). |
| 22:56.44 | A|an | Do they mean available to an *outside* browser?? Not browsers generally? |
| 22:57.07 | A|an | ( https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-secure-phpmyadmin-on-debian-7 ) |
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| 22:57.32 | squisher | A|an, yes, an outside browser, i.e., through apache, is what is meant |
| 22:58.00 | A|an | okay...it had be wondering... |
| 22:58.04 | squisher | and you certainly can (and should) restrict permissions so that local non-root users can't see those files either |
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| 22:58.33 | average | R0mano: find path/where/your/stuff/is -type d -name '.actors' | xargs -I% find % -type f -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~s/tbn$/jpg/;' |
| 22:58.44 | average | sorry |
| 22:58.48 | A|an | yes, I intend to do that...it was just that I noticed, when I started experimenting, I can look at *lots* with my browser |
| 22:58.59 | A|an | thanks |
| 22:59.00 | average | R0mano: find -type d -name '.actors' | xargs -I% find % -type f -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~s/tbn$/jpg/; system("mv $_ $m");' |
| 22:59.05 | average | R0mano: yeah, this one should work |
| 22:59.19 | average | don't forget to give the first find, as the first argument, the path where it should start |
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| 23:01.07 | average | R0mano: do you understand the oneliner ? |
| 23:01.11 | average | is it too weird ? |
| 23:03.09 | R0mano | find . -type d -name '.actors' | xargs -I% find % - type f -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~s/tbn$/jpg/;system("mv $_ $m");' |
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| 23:08.18 | R0mano | average: I'm not quite sure I do. It worked for some subdirectories but not others. Thank you though |
| 23:09.40 | average | R0mano: I made a small screencast for you http://garage-coding.com/oneliner-for-rename.webm |
| 23:09.46 | average | R0mano: it explains how it works |
| 23:09.55 | average | R0mano: watch it and let me know what you think |
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| 23:11.20 | R0mano | average: ok cheers will do |
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| 23:11.54 | average | R0mano: it's only 4 minutes long |
| 23:12.42 | R0mano | average: My connection is awful atm I think it might take longer than 4 minutes to buffer lol |
| 23:13.01 | R0mano | average: Tethering from a phone |
| 23:13.51 | average | R0mano: you must be kidding me, it's 9.2mb ... |
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| 23:14.56 | R0mano | average: I think I get something like 120kbs max. Just moved so no internet for a week |
| 23:15.46 | average | ok |
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| 23:21.35 | zh1 | if i add wheezy backports to sources list will my system get more instable? |
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| 23:21.58 | R0mano | average: Just finshed watching it |
| 23:22.05 | average | zh1: I don't think so. I think if any problems, they will occur once you start installing packages from backports |
| 23:22.06 | R0mano | *finished |
| 23:22.40 | R0mano | That's a very clever usage of xargs, I've not used it much before. Thanks for your help |
| 23:22.42 | average | zh1: but.. I don't think it would make it less stable |
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| 23:22.54 | R0mano | For some reason some files have not been changed though |
| 23:23.12 | average | R0mano: which of them ? and are you sure those are files ? maybe they're symlinks or directories |
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| 23:27.32 | abbe | Hi! |
| 23:28.29 | abbe | I'm seeing intermittent download failures from apt-get while installing Debian GNU/Linux wheezy (via preseed), the latest one is this http://pastebin.com/tzt7Pt7e |
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| 23:28.58 | abbe | the preseed specifies a local-mirror:8089, but strangely apt-get tried to download from port 80 |
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| 23:29.29 | average | abbe: your local mirror seems to be down.. |
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| 23:29.59 | abbe | average: nop, it's up. the fact is it's not listening on port 80 |
| 23:30.05 | average | abbe: what's a preseed? are you sure you have the right mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 23:30.49 | abbe | well, preseed is a mechanism to pre-answer all questions asked by debian-installer for non-interactive installations |
| 23:30.59 | average | abbe: you mean -y ? |
| 23:30.59 | abbe | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs02.html.en |
| 23:31.19 | average | I just use -y for that.. erm..maybe it's a bit more complicated than I think ? |
| 23:31.21 | abbe | nop, it's at host installation time, like debian is installign host |
| 23:31.41 | R0mano | average: No I'm certain. for example one of the files not changed is Zulu (1964)/.actors/Michael_Caine.tbn and the rest of the files in the Zulu directory |
| 23:31.51 | abbe | s/debian is installign/installing debian on/ |
| 23:32.06 | average | R0mano: ah, I know |
| 23:32.22 | R0mano | Its the paren right? |
| 23:32.29 | average | R0mano: find -type d -name '.actors' | xargs -I% find % -type f -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~s/tbn$/jpg/; system("mv $_ $m");' |
| 23:32.50 | average | find -type d -name '.actors' | xargs -I% find "%" -type f -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~s/tbn$/jpg/; system("mv \"$_\" \"$m\"");' |
| 23:32.53 | average | try this one ^^ |
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| 23:34.17 | average | R0mano: does it work ? |
| 23:34.18 | themill | looks like you want prename |
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| 23:34.48 | R0mano | unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option |
| 23:35.22 | average | find -type d -name '.actors' | xargs -I% find % -type f -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~s/tbn$/jpg/; system("mv \"$_\" \"$m\"");' |
| 23:35.25 | average | R0mano: ^^ ? |
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| 23:36.19 | themill | doesn't «prename 's/tbn$/jpg/' */.actors/*.tbn» look a bit easier? (change the glob to suit) |
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| 23:39.08 | R0mano | average: Sorry no same error as before |
| 23:39.23 | R0mano | find -type d -name '.actors' | xargs -I% find % -type f -name "*.tbn" | perl -ne 'chomp;$m=$_;$m=~s/tbn$/jpg/; system("mv \"$_\" \"$m\"");' |
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| 23:43.27 | R0mano | themill: Thanks that solved it |
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| 23:44.12 | R0mano | average: Thanks for your help also, despite it not fully working you did teach me something about xargs. Cheers for the webm as well |
| 23:44.17 | average | lol. yeah, I dunno, it worked fine over here, no idea why was acting up |
| 23:44.34 | average | np |
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