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| 00:08.35 | adamsilver | I see the package here: https://packages.debian.org/sid/postgresql-9.3 but doing apt-get install postgresql-9.3 shows E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'postgresql-9.3' |
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| 00:10.00 | Amarande | adamsilver, do you actually have sid in your sources.list? |
| 00:10.36 | Amarande | (and if you just added sid to be able to get that package, did you remember to do apt-get update to refresh the package list?) |
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| 00:12.02 | adamsilver | Amarande: what is that |
| 00:16.01 | Amarande | adamsilver, I mean this in the nicest way possible |
| 00:16.16 | Amarande | if you are still learning the basics of debian, such as how to use apt-get properly |
| 00:16.21 | Amarande | you should not even be thinking of touching sid |
| 00:16.39 | adamsilver | Amarande: what sid stands for? |
| 00:17.02 | Amarande | adamsilver: sid is the bleeding edge, basically alpha-test debian |
| 00:17.04 | Amarande | for advanced users only |
| 00:17.28 | adamsilver | Amarande: okay but I need postgres 9.3 and it's stable |
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| 00:18.27 | Amarande | adamsilver: nope, it's not |
| 00:18.40 | Amarande | that package is only in jessie (testing, basically beta) and in sid |
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| 00:19.52 | adamsilver | Amarande: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL — Stable release 9.3.4 |
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| 00:20.57 | adamsilver | Amarande: never mind I found debian instructions here https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt#PostgreSQL_packages_for_Debian_and_Ubuntu .. thanks for the help. |
| 00:21.15 | Amarande | adamsilver: yes, it's a stable release for postgresql, but it's not found in the stable edition of debian |
| 00:21.23 | Amarande | one thing you've got to get used to about stable debian |
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| 00:21.36 | Amarande | rarely, if ever, is stable debian updated for actual newer versions of stuff |
| 00:21.53 | Amarande | debian will port back security updates, but new software doesn't *go* into stable |
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| 00:23.28 | adamsilver | i see |
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| 00:25.36 | Amarande | it's part of how it preserves its stability, actually |
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| 00:26.20 | Amarande | other distros, when an update is urgently needed for something, usually simply version update it from stock source |
| 00:27.20 | Amarande | but what if that's a major version change? what if your system's stability depended on the fact that it used FooSoft 2.7.12 and the FooSoft 3.0.0 release has security updates but breaks your important stuff? |
| 00:27.40 | Amarande | Too bad, there. But Debian keeps stability because it'll port back the security fixes from 3.0.0 to 2.7.12 so your FooSoft doesn't break on you |
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| 00:30.30 | adamsilver | Amarande: thanks for the clarifications. Now, debian 7.5 is still called wheezy? |
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| 00:32.10 | ket1114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.22 | ket1114 | me being on wheezy |
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| 00:36.12 | Amarande | ket1114: stable and testing aren't meant to be mixed like that |
| 00:36.35 | Amarande | ket1114: basically, fish or cut bait is all I can really say about that kind of scenario |
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| 00:36.44 | Amarande | either reinstall wheezy, or dist-upgrade whole hog to jessie |
| 00:36.52 | ket1114 | yeah but stable is ancient |
| 00:37.43 | ket1114 | can i safely upgrade the whole thing to jessie? |
| 00:38.22 | edgardoweb | hi |
| 00:38.39 | medfly | hi, I"m having some trouble with a dependency for a thing not on apt. it asks for 'libstdc++.so.6'. where would that be found? |
| 00:38.45 | edgardoweb | how install xbmc for debian 64bit |
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| 00:39.20 | medfly | ah, I might need ia32-libs :) |
| 00:39.44 | ryonaloli | right now i just skim through a few of the logs but don't really know what i'm looking for (auth.log is easy because bots never find the right port for ssh) |
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| 00:58.50 | cactusaurus | can anybody help me I tried upgrading from 107 drivers for nvidia to the 300 drivers. How do you revert back to the noveau drivers? |
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| 01:01.19 | Kuroshita | hey all, prob a dumb question, just wondering if the gtk3-engines-unico package is in debian under a different name? |
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| 01:05.29 | medfly | hi, I have an issue with a dependency: 'error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory', trying to use something not on apt. I do have libstdc++6, though |
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| 01:06.12 | zykotick9 | cactusaurus: be aware, when you install propritary nvidia, it adds a module blacklist for nouveau. you'll need to remove that inorder to use nouveau again. best of luck, sorry i don't know the details off hand. |
| 01:06.15 | moha_hunt | @Kuroshita, gtk3-engines-unico is the name in debian, but it's in wheezy and sid only, https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gtk3-engines-unico |
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| 01:07.44 | cactusaurus | anyone know how to rename files in the cli |
| 01:07.49 | cactusaurus | ;_; |
| 01:07.54 | medfly | what cli |
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| 01:07.58 | zykotick9 | cactusaurus: "mv foo foo2" |
| 01:08.00 | cactusaurus | debian's kernel |
| 01:08.08 | cactusaurus | really? |
| 01:08.09 | cactusaurus | :D |
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| 01:08.16 | medfly | yep, move is how we do it |
| 01:08.17 | cactusaurus | does this delete foo |
| 01:08.22 | medfly | rm |
| 01:08.24 | medfly | for delete |
| 01:09.10 | cactusaurus | I found a guide, I've done this before |
| 01:09.16 | cactusaurus | impossible to remember. |
| 01:09.19 | Kuroshita | moha_hunt, but not in jessie, how strange |
| 01:09.53 | medfly | rm file |
| 01:10.14 | cactusaurus | brb |
| 01:10.21 | greg___ | cactusaurus: foo will no longer exist with the mv command. |
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| 01:12.34 | moha_hunt | @Kuroshita, not strange, testing doesn't have all the packages that exist in stable, you can configure testing and sid repos and apt-pinning so testing gets preference over sid |
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| 01:13.11 | cactusaurus | That works thank you guys. |
| 01:13.24 | cactusaurus | I enjoy f1-f7 using noveau drivers' |
| 01:13.52 | cactusaurus | brb afk |
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| 02:25.19 | linuxuz3r | jessie > wheezy? |
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| 02:32.53 | zykotick9 | justanotheruser: ;) that echo command is kinda neat, thanks. |
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| 02:37.37 | asterismo | hi people |
| 02:38.00 | asterismo | is there any opensource cloud file server software for install in a debian wheezy server? |
| 02:38.08 | asterismo | something easy to install? |
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| 02:40.02 | buu | apt-get install proftpd |
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| 02:43.37 | jmcnaught | asterismo: owncloud is in wheezy-backports. git-annex is also pretty cool. depends on what kind of requirements you have |
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| 02:47.27 | asterismo | just files |
| 02:47.37 | asterismo | it's a scientific institution |
| 02:47.44 | asterismo | an astronomical observatory |
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| 03:03.36 | LinuxGuy2020 | I'm looking for a way that I can test out lots of new packages without mucking up my system and keep a clean house so to speak. Is there any way + |
| 03:03.40 | LinuxGuy2020 | oops |
| 03:06.07 | LinuxGuy2020 | I'm looking for a way that I can test out lots of new packages without mucking up my system and keep a clean house so to speak. Is there any way to do a snapshot of the system before doing a bunch of package installs and then if I decide not to keep them I can just tell it to go back to a previous system state without having to use Clonezilla for a full system backup like I have been doing? Not sure if thats considered a snapshot or if r |
| 03:06.14 | jmcnaught | LinuxGuy2020: you could use virtual machines. I use libvirt/KVM with virt-manager as a GUI. VirtualBox is also popular. If you're only testing CLI or daemon software you could also check out LXC |
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| 03:07.57 | jmcnaught | LinuxGuy2020: alternatively if you use LVM2 you could use the snapshot volume feature, which allows rolling back. I'd probably use virtualization though |
| 03:10.23 | JyZyXEL | dpkg-deb: building package `linux-firmware-image-3.15.0-rc8-next-20140603+' in `../linux-firmware-image-3.15.0-rc8-next-20140603+_3.15.0-rc8-next-20140603+-6_amd64.deb' |
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| 03:10.31 | JyZyXEL | why does it get such an insane name? |
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| 03:11.52 | martinjungblut | JyZyXEL: maybe because it is insanely bleeding edge, to the point were days actually matter? |
| 03:11.57 | martinjungblut | s/were/where |
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| 03:12.17 | JyZyXEL | yeah but if you look carefully everything is in the name twice |
| 03:12.39 | JyZyXEL | linux-image-3.15.0-rc8-next-20140603+_3.15.0-rc8-next-20140603+-6_amd64.deb |
| 03:12.43 | JyZyXEL | thats insane |
| 03:13.14 | JyZyXEL | shouldn't it be: linux-image-3.15.0-rc8-next-20140603-6_amd64.deb |
| 03:13.29 | wols_ | it's not insane. it's only in the name once, the other part is the version number |
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| 03:14.23 | JyZyXEL | takes for ever to compile these :\ |
| 03:14.41 | JyZyXEL | it does a make clean by default? |
| 03:14.50 | wols_ | and: linux kernels need the version in the actual package name so you can have several different installed kernels at the same time |
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| 03:16.08 | martinjungblut | wols_: true, but that is a limitation in dpkg |
| 03:16.24 | martinjungblut | it's not like this is the saner way to approach things |
| 03:16.45 | martinjungblut | it is clearly something that could be improved, but we tend to overlook because things are fine as they are :P |
| 03:16.57 | martinjungblut | not saying you don't have a point, but there is some inertia |
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| 05:15.46 | raspberrypifan | is there any particular version of debian for VM? |
| 05:16.18 | Cpuroast | no |
| 05:16.34 | raspberrypifan | good to knwo |
| 05:17.06 | Cpuroast | there isn't supposed to be any specific version of any OS |
| 05:17.09 | Cpuroast | made for VMs |
| 05:17.13 | Cpuroast | that's the whole point |
| 05:18.31 | raspberrypifan | sometimes when u jsut want to test out the basic of it |
| 05:18.36 | raspberrypifan | u can get a stripped down img for vm |
| 05:18.38 | smw_ | Cpuroast, ubuntu has one |
| 05:18.46 | smw_ | Cpuroast, and I contest that is "the point" |
| 05:18.47 | Cpuroast | raspberrypifan: just use netinstall |
| 05:19.01 | Cpuroast | and you'll get the most barebones version you can get |
| 05:19.17 | raspberrypifan | idk how to use a netinstall |
| 05:19.21 | Cpuroast | a vm is supposed to run pretty much anything |
| 05:19.30 | Cpuroast | raspberrypifan: you boot the netinstall iso |
| 05:19.42 | Cpuroast | give it an IP |
| 05:19.50 | Cpuroast | and pick what you want |
| 05:19.57 | Cpuroast | it downloads everything as needed |
| 05:20.06 | raspberrypifan | well im using debian to build freeswtich, so idk what i need |
| 05:20.10 | raspberrypifan | so ill just download a full iso |
| 05:20.12 | raspberrypifan | and run it on a vm |
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| 05:20.46 | Cpuroast | bah, I'd still go with a netinstall |
| 05:20.53 | raspberrypifan | maybe one day |
| 05:20.55 | raspberrypifan | lol |
| 05:20.55 | Cpuroast | then you get whatever packages you want |
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| 05:21.17 | Cpuroast | netinstall + base utilities + ssh server |
| 05:21.20 | raspberrypifan | idk, its been a decade since i configured slackware, im a bit to old to mess around with packages and builidng from bare |
| 05:21.22 | Cpuroast | then apt-get install something |
| 05:21.51 | Cpuroast | it's far from building from bare |
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| 05:21.56 | Cpuroast | apt-get install something |
| 05:22.05 | Cpuroast | will pull all of something's dependencies |
| 05:23.08 | raspberrypifan | hmm |
| 05:23.11 | raspberrypifan | will it really |
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| 05:23.22 | Cpuroast | that's the idea |
| 05:23.43 | raspberrypifan | idk im scared of missing a dependencies of a dependencies |
| 05:23.45 | raspberrypifan | that i didnt install |
| 05:23.48 | raspberrypifan | at the beginnig |
| 05:23.56 | Cpuroast | you can't miss anything |
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| 05:24.40 | raspberrypifan | well the regular iso is almost downloaded |
| 05:24.44 | raspberrypifan | ill mess around with it first |
| 05:24.51 | raspberrypifan | then if i feel brave ill backtrack |
| 05:24.53 | raspberrypifan | and just get bare |
| 05:25.57 | Cpuroast | ok |
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| 05:32.03 | raspberrypifan | whats install with speech syntheiss? |
| 05:32.28 | comradekingu | raspberrypifan: it reads out the install options for blind people |
| 05:32.38 | comradekingu | or if you dont have a screen |
| 05:33.33 | raspberrypifan | interesting |
| 05:34.03 | phy1729 | Why is /usr/local/sbin set gid? |
| 05:34.31 | raspberrypifan | sadly the installer is not pretty |
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| 05:38.09 | jmcnaught | raspberrypifan: well it's extremely functional, and you only need to use it during installs |
| 05:38.50 | raspberrypifan | true but idk i kinda hate that linux stuff is usually unpolished |
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| 05:39.44 | jmcnaught | raspberrypifan: i guess.. but honestly i'd rather have it work well than look nice. Flashy designs tend to make me skeptical about a project's priorities |
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| 05:40.34 | raspberrypifan | really? |
| 05:40.52 | HD|Lapto1 | hey |
| 05:41.02 | HD|Lapto1 | how do I make reprepro sign the Release file? |
| 05:41.26 | jmcnaught | raspberrypifan: just skeptical.. that doesn't mean i think any project that's "pretty" isn't worth using |
| 05:41.27 | HD|Lapto1 | Set SignWith: KEYID in the distributions file and ran reprepro --noskipold -V update |
| 05:42.08 | raspberrypifan | idk but isnt debian pretty old and stable, surely they could have a beautification team |
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| 05:49.23 | martinjungblut | I'm with jmcnaught on this one |
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| 05:50.44 | raspberrypifan | y |
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| 05:52.06 | martinjungblut | I get sceptical about things that look too shiny |
| 05:52.17 | raspberrypifan | hm |
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| 05:52.34 | martinjungblut | because most of the times the developers are more focused on this shiny finish |
| 05:52.41 | martinjungblut | than to functionality and more important matters |
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| 05:52.54 | raspberrypifan | but isnt it a form meets function thing |
| 05:53.07 | martinjungblut | depends, not always |
| 05:53.34 | martinjungblut | I'd say, not generally |
| 05:53.57 | raspberrypifan | interesting |
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| 05:54.25 | martinjungblut | I agree things being polished is certainly good, but in most cases, things working is more important than a shiny user interface |
| 05:54.50 | raspberrypifan | i suppose i just expect linux to be consumer goods |
| 05:54.51 | martinjungblut | would you rather drive a good car with a weird colour, or an awful car that had your favourite paint colour? |
| 05:55.08 | raspberrypifan | idk it seem more then just color deep |
| 05:56.19 | martinjungblut | to be really fair, debian isn't targeted that much at inexperienced users |
| 05:56.37 | martinjungblut | I mean, its focus is more on stability, reliability, maturity, availability |
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| 05:56.40 | jmcnaught | also the installer is something you run once, it's not like most people are sitting in front of it all the time |
| 05:57.01 | martinjungblut | than having a truly awesome and shiny installer that resembles that of a commercial product |
| 05:57.17 | martinjungblut | in fact, debian has a pretty awesome installer |
| 05:57.20 | martinjungblut | it has many installation modes |
| 05:57.41 | raspberrypifan | hm |
| 05:57.44 | martinjungblut | network-based install, graphical install, text-based install, expert install, etc |
| 05:57.47 | raspberrypifan | idk its like food enters from the eyes first |
| 05:57.57 | martinjungblut | debian isn't food though |
| 05:58.04 | martinjungblut | but I get your point |
| 05:58.27 | martinjungblut | I wouldn't want the product's quality to be compromised by too much focus on its package though |
| 05:58.42 | martinjungblut | which, respectfully, is really common in the software world |
| 05:58.52 | martinjungblut | especially among some other operating systems :P |
| 05:59.03 | jmcnaught | well there's also the possibility that Debian isn't interested in attracting users that judge based on the looks of the installer.. Debian doesn't really have a profit motive, it's just a bunch of people that work together to make something they need or care about |
| 05:59.15 | martinjungblut | yeah |
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| 06:00.07 | martinjungblut | raspberrypifan: you do have a point, and it's a valid one, but there are limited resources, man power, and we're better of focusing on more important matters |
| 06:00.41 | raspberrypifan | well im glad were having a civil discussion |
| 06:00.51 | jmcnaught | that's not to say there's no value in dmaking nice designs.. but i do get skeptical of (especially brand new) projects that have beautiful websites and not a lot of details for example |
| 06:00.57 | martinjungblut | raspberrypifan: such as testing packages and their integration, adding actual features to the installer, improving Debian's own tools, fixing bugs, etc |
| 06:01.44 | martinjungblut | yeah, I think there's this new "web 2.0" trend to make everything shiny, but not really make great tools |
| 06:01.54 | raspberrypifan | yea limited resources are an issue |
| 06:02.12 | martinjungblut | I don't know, I don't want to sound like an old man, but there's a lot of colour, and yet I don't see too much content |
| 06:02.27 | jmcnaught | also i bet the debian project would be thrilled to have new designers come aboard :) |
| 06:02.41 | martinjungblut | true that |
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| 06:02.59 | martinjungblut | raspberrypifan: to you give a figure |
| 06:03.11 | martinjungblut | raspberrypifan: I've been running Debian in this machine for over two years |
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| 06:03.24 | martinjungblut | raspberrypifan: same installation, never changed the distribution, always Debian, from day one |
| 06:03.55 | martinjungblut | raspberrypifan: never had any crashes, always have the software I want/need, system is clean and working really really well |
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| 06:04.16 | martinjungblut | raspberrypifan: I generally reboot once every two weeks |
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| 06:04.34 | martinjungblut | and this isn't even Debian stable.. it's sid, unstable, new packages all the time |
| 06:04.35 | raspberrypifan | well i dont have the skills or i would help to improve debian and other programs |
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| 06:04.49 | martinjungblut | few systems can claim something even close to this |
| 06:05.50 | raspberrypifan | os x? |
| 06:06.11 | martinjungblut | no, not to this extent |
| 06:06.25 | Eyes | what |
| 06:06.51 | martinjungblut | I'm not really sure about it, but I don't think OS X can claim to do what Debian does |
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| 06:07.16 | martinjungblut | if anyone can add something, I'd be glad to hear your word |
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| 06:07.39 | martinjungblut | does OS X perform upgrades of the entire userspace utilities? |
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| 06:07.59 | peterrooney | To be fair, apple is not trying to do the same thing with OSX. |
| 06:08.33 | martinjungblut | true |
| 06:08.35 | peterrooney | martinjungblut: only of the free in-house products. |
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| 06:10.47 | martinjungblut | thanks peterrooney |
| 06:10.51 | jmcnaught | I think if you only install apps from the app store in OS X then you have a sort of centralized update mechanism. But Debian is also not funded by a multi-billion dollar corporation, and Apple also isn't very interested in respecting software freedoms |
| 06:11.12 | jmcnaught | but we should be careful not to start an OS flame war :) |
| 06:11.30 | martinjungblut | those are generally pointless any way |
| 06:12.09 | raspberrypifan | idk i like os x |
| 06:12.11 | jmcnaught | i suppose we could talk about this in #debian-offtopic |
| 06:12.14 | raspberrypifan | it simple and it works |
| 06:12.36 | jmcnaught | s/could/should |
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| 06:12.54 | martinjungblut | ok, let's join #debian-offtopic and take this debate there :P |
| 06:12.58 | martinjungblut | I'm up for it |
| 06:13.16 | raspberrypifan | is it really a debate tho |
| 06:13.28 | martinjungblut | let's find out |
| 06:14.17 | raspberrypifan | one things for sure, it takes forever to install |
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| 06:28.53 | raspberrypifan | wel |
| 06:28.57 | raspberrypifan | i screwed up |
| 06:29.01 | raspberrypifan | i dont remember the account and password |
| 06:29.05 | raspberrypifan | that i just set up |
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| 06:30.00 | milligan | raspberrypifan, you can save it if you want.. |
| 06:30.22 | milligan | boot a live cd and reset it, or drop out to a lower run level and reset it |
| 06:30.43 | raspberrypifan | how do i drop to lower level, how do u get into terminal |
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| 06:30.47 | raspberrypifan | cause it boots into gui |
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| 06:31.08 | milligan | http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-recover-root-password-under-linux-with-single-user-mode/ |
| 06:32.41 | wols_ | !tell raspberrypifan about nodm |
| 06:33.25 | raspberrypifan | contrl atl fn? |
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| 06:36.29 | wols_ | raspberrypifan: yes, like any other linux out there. |
| 06:36.45 | wols_ | but you will still need to log in |
| 06:36.58 | raspberrypifan | well i couldnt log in thats the point |
| 06:37.02 | raspberrypifan | anyway i got into a terminal |
| 06:37.07 | raspberrypifan | how do i delete my user that i cant rememver |
| 06:37.09 | raspberrypifan | and make a new one |
| 06:37.26 | wols_ | !tell raspberrypifan about handbook |
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| 06:40.18 | jmcnaught | raspberrypifan: if you're in the terminal you could type "cat /etc/passwd" and look for the user that you created |
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| 06:41.32 | raspberrypifan | yea |
| 06:41.34 | raspberrypifan | i think i got it |
| 06:41.40 | Mikaela | Why not "grep <user> /etc/passwd" ? And looking at that file requires root. |
| 06:41.44 | raspberrypifan | yup i got |
| 06:44.22 | jmcnaught | Mikaela: /etc/passwd is 644, anyone can read it but only root can change it |
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| 06:46.40 | Mikaela | Oh |
| 06:47.54 | rryoumaa | you might be thinking of a shadow password file |
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| 07:32.53 | vadimkolchev | hi all, got a strange thing going on stable. just used transmission to download one thing and when I put it on pause it still resumes downloading) any1 with the same issue? |
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| 07:50.34 | sandman13 | alsa doesn't restore the saved settings in Debian. How can I make it do so? |
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| 07:53.12 | bnw | help! df -hT said /var had a capacity of 4.9G, 4.7G used，sudo du-h --max-depth=0 /var shows current /var takes 287M. What's wrong with my desktop? |
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| 07:55.37 | martinjungblut | bnw: could you run a df -ha and du -sh /var and pastebin it? |
| 07:55.46 | martinjungblut | bnw: so I can take a closer look |
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| 08:01.48 | bnw | Sorry it take so long, here it is: http://paste.debian.net/103825/ |
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| 08:10.21 | bnw | martinjungblut, |
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| 08:15.09 | martinjungblut | bnw: I'm here.. I'm simply curious about what is going on over there |
| 08:15.22 | martinjungblut | bnw: could you cd into /var and do a whole du -sh * there, and pastebin that? |
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| 08:15.49 | martinjungblut | ooor maybe check that /dev/sda6 partition.. cfdisk /dev/sda |
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| 08:16.36 | martinjungblut | It's really late over here, I'm not sure whether that is my mind playing tricks on me and I didn't realise some little possible detail going on that could explain this odd behaviour |
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| 08:19.09 | bnw | I mv 1.x Gig /var/log/syslog to another partition, and hundreds MB kern.log user.log and messages too, but available space didn't increase. wired. |
| 08:19.42 | bnw | Maybe my hard drive have some hardware problem? |
| 08:20.24 | martinjungblut | maybe |
| 08:20.43 | martinjungblut | if I were you, I'd check it for bad sectors |
| 08:21.06 | bnw | martinjungblut, Thank you anyway, I will try to dig further and reboot to see if the condition changed. |
| 08:21.26 | martinjungblut | you're welcome bnw ;) glad I could help |
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| 08:24.09 | martinjungblut | bnw: use the 'badblocks' programme from the e2fsprogs package |
| 08:24.21 | bnw | mar |
| 08:24.37 | martinjungblut | bnw: do not use -w as an option, otherwise you'll lose data |
| 08:24.47 | bnw | martinjungblut, I will try that. |
| 08:26.47 | mattthias | hi, i want to run a script every day at 6 am via cron, but nothing happens. if i set the intervall for testing to every minute it is working fine. My Line: 30 6 * * * ~/time_table/wetter.py > ~/time_table/logs/wetter.log 2>&1 |
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| 09:02.19 | ectospasm | Do you have a MAILTO defined in crontab? |
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| 09:07.11 | mattthias | ectospasm: should i write: 08 11 .... or 8 11 .... |
| 09:07.33 | ectospasm | I don't believe it matters, but I never do a leading zero |
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| 09:16.12 | mattthias | i don't know why they don't appear in the log file? my local time is 11:15 am and the cmd: 15 11 * * * ~/time_table/wetter.py > ~/time_table/logs/wetter.log 2>&1 |
| 09:16.36 | mattthias | ectospasm: the log file isn't even there |
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| 09:17.06 | ectospasm | logfile being wetter.log? |
| 09:17.52 | ectospasm | but it works when you set the time frames for the job to be all stars (i.e., every minute)? |
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| 09:18.04 | ectospasm | that IS weird |
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| 09:20.46 | mattthias | ectospasm: every minute is working. i also id 20 * * * * cmd and it worked |
| 09:20.57 | mattthias | ectospasm: so the issue is on the hour * |
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| 09:22.07 | jubo2 | 'sudo aptitude install git' give errors and exits |
| 09:22.10 | jubo2 | dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable |
| 09:22.11 | dpkg | jubo2: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 09:22.12 | jubo2 | dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable |
| 09:23.09 | ectospasm | mattthias: I think I see: 8 11 * * * is 1108 |
| 09:23.12 | jubo2 | dpkg: Be calm. No threats. |
| 09:23.13 | dpkg | jubo2: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 09:23.28 | nkuttler | jubo2: dpkg is a bot.. |
| 09:23.34 | jubo2 | it is? P-; |
| 09:23.35 | nkuttler | jubo2: it replies to dpkg |
| 09:23.46 | nkuttler | jubo2: anyway, paste the command + entire output |
| 09:23.55 | jubo2 | nkuttler: Ok I do |
| 09:23.56 | nkuttler | jubo2: + output of env |
| 09:24.20 | nkuttler | paste.debian.net |
| 09:25.05 | mattthias | ectospasm: 11:08 am ? |
| 09:25.45 | ectospasm | yeah, it's "m h dom mon daw command" |
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| 09:26.14 | ectospasm | so, citing your example, "8 11 * * *" will run at 1108 am |
| 09:26.26 | jubo2 | nkuttler: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bf4ca18a/ |
| 09:26.40 | ectospasm | perhaps try "30 8 * * *" for 0830 |
| 09:27.11 | nkuttler | jubo2: start by configuring locales, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 09:27.34 | nkuttler | ,v git |
| 09:27.35 | judd | Package: git on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.0.0~rc2-1; sid: 1:2.0.0-1; experimental: 1:2.0.0+next.20140528-1 |
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| 09:28.32 | mattthias | ectospasm: my local time is 11:28 am so i will pu "29 11 * * *" |
| 09:28.38 | mattthias | *put |
| 09:30.45 | ectospasm | mattthias: you are saving your crontab every time you make a change to it, right? |
| 09:30.58 | mattthias | ectospasm: i edit it with crontab -e |
| 09:31.08 | mattthias | ectospasm: yes i save it |
| 09:31.19 | ectospasm | OK, just checking the idiot valve. |
| 09:31.48 | ectospasm | and the output of "date" tells you the timezone you expect? |
| 09:33.26 | mattthias | ectospasm: yes i did date > date.log as a command and i got the same timezone |
| 09:33.56 | sandman13 | ALSA fails to restore the setting for the sound card after startup. What can I do to restore the settings from startup so that I don't have to manually type 'alsactl restore'? |
| 09:34.33 | ectospasm | sandman13: put that in your startup configuration, or .xinitrc, or whatever is appropriate for your DE. |
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| 09:35.28 | sandman13 | ectospasm: adding 'alsactl restore' to .xinitrc? |
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| 09:37.52 | jubo2 | nkuttler: -bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| 09:38.08 | jubo2 | maybe it's in the path only if run with sudo |
| 09:38.15 | jubo2 | isn't that possible |
| 09:38.29 | jubo2 | normal user and sudo have different paths / access to commands |
| 09:39.33 | mattthias | enkrypt_: what about a shell script which gets exec. every 2minutes and checks, if the time is between 6:30 and 6:31 and runs then my command |
| 09:39.44 | nkuttler | jubo2: right |
| 09:40.10 | jubo2 | ah.. |
| 09:40.31 | jubo2 | nkuttler: so I run that with sudo 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' ? |
| 09:40.40 | nkuttler | jubo2: yes, or as root |
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| 09:40.53 | jubo2 | You guys excited yet about http://MaidSafe.net network yet ? |
| 09:41.04 | nkuttler | jubo2: please focus |
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| 09:41.08 | ectospasm | sandman13: yeah, or whatever subsystem runs commands when you login. |
| 09:41.27 | ectospasm | worse comes to worst you could always put it in /etc/rc.local, but that's a nasty hack |
| 09:41.45 | jubo2 | nkuttler: sudo: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| 09:41.52 | ectospasm | or maybe there's something in /etc/alsa* |
| 09:42.02 | nkuttler | jubo2: ls -l /sbin/ + sudo env |
| 09:42.14 | nkuttler | jubo2: + ls -l /usr/sbin/ |
| 09:42.29 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell jubo2 -about pastebin |
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| 09:44.14 | mattthias | sorry enkrypt_ |
| 09:44.18 | mattthias | ectospasm: what about a shell script which gets exec. every 2minutes and checks, if the time is between 6:30 and 6:31 and runs then my command |
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| 09:44.54 | ectospasm | that's a hack |
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| 09:46.00 | ectospasm | if it was a problem with the command, it wouldn't run every minute. Can you pastebin your crontab? |
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| 09:48.56 | jubo2 | nkuttler: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/0ff022ee/ |
| 09:50.01 | nkuttler | jubo2: yeah, your PATH is seriously messed up with sudo, PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 09:50.31 | nkuttler | jubo2: you need /sbin/ and /usr/sbin/ in there.. |
| 09:50.50 | nkuttler | jubo2: not sure how that could happen, but check man 5 sudoers and man sudo, or just use absolute paths |
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| 09:51.03 | nkuttler | jubo2: like sudo /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure |
| 09:51.16 | jubo2 | nkuttler: this server is quite like the hosting guys left it |
| 09:51.16 | nkuttler | jubo2: but that won't fix your problem with ldconfig not found during apt-get etc |
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| 09:51.26 | nkuttler | jubo2: managed hosting? |
| 09:51.36 | jubo2 | no. VPS-from-cloud |
| 09:51.47 | jubo2 | this is what clean Debian7 is supposed to look like ? |
| 09:51.48 | nkuttler | jubo2: dunno. or just sudo su i guess and get a real root shell |
| 09:51.52 | nkuttler | jubo2: no |
| 09:51.58 | jubo2 | shit.. |
| 09:52.27 | ectospasm | no need to invoke two processes with sudo su. "sudo -i" should work for getting a root shell |
| 09:52.32 | nkuttler | right |
| 09:52.33 | jubo2 | the production server is a Debian6 box that is starting to squat down and hang |
| 09:52.53 | jubo2 | I just 'sudo su' if I need to get the #-prompt |
| 09:52.57 | nkuttler | ectospasm: won't that still take sudo env? |
| 09:53.20 | ectospasm | Oh, I see what you mean. It usually isn't a problem for me. |
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| 09:53.27 | sandman13 | sudo bash anyone? |
| 09:53.27 | nkuttler | yeah, seems to be one here |
| 09:53.30 | ectospasm | sudo su - will force a root login shell. |
| 09:53.56 | nkuttler | how would one change the default sudo PATH anyway? |
| 09:54.16 | jubo2 | It's looking more and more likely that I'm going to start learning developing Consumium / Consumerium - Enhancing Consumer Informedness effort key components as MaidSafe apps |
| 09:54.36 | jubo2 | last time I touched a programming language was like 7 yrs ago |
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| 09:55.33 | ectospasm | then maybe a UNIX-like OS is not for you. |
| 09:55.41 | ectospasm | wait, I shouldn't say that |
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| 09:57.15 | jubo2 | with MaidSafe, data, apps and OS'es can persist in the new network for tens and hundereds of years |
| 09:57.40 | jubo2 | that is if the implementation isn't made of used bubble gum, pieces of cardboard and low adhesion tape |
| 09:57.42 | nkuttler | jubo2: nobody cares about maidsafe |
| 09:57.47 | jubo2 | nkuttler: I care |
| 09:57.52 | nkuttler | !ot |
| 09:57.52 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 09:58.09 | jubo2 | 'k 'k point taken |
| 09:58.52 | jubo2 | so can I ask a real beginner question..? How do I fix the PATH variable for sudo ? |
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| 10:00.12 | nkuttler | jubo2: you could paste your /etc/sudoers |
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| 10:02.40 | jubo2 | nkuttler: no. that I cannot do.. The potential attackers would know which accounts to try and compromise |
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| 10:03.22 | nkuttler | jubo2: see man 5 sudoers, env_reset, secure_path |
| 10:03.46 | jubo2 | looking at it now |
| 10:04.41 | tomboy65 | i am attempting to configure eth0 in a way that it uses a pre-defined ip if it's in my home network, and uses dhcp if it can't find the router (which has a fixed ip and a known mac) |
| 10:05.31 | tomboy65 | i suspect this is possible with the "map" thingy in interfaces, but i need to find a way to figure out whether the router is on the network before assigning the ip :/ |
| 10:05.35 | tomboy65 | is that even possible? |
| 10:05.57 | azswa | hello, do you have on debian 7 an issue with gedit showing the waiting animation cursor for at least 10 seconds when a file is opened in Nautilus? |
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| 10:22.19 | sandman13 | I removed pulseaudio and alsa still the sound works better than ever. How is this possible? |
| 10:24.14 | petern_ | Removed alsa, really? |
| 10:24.43 | sandman13 | petern_: ? |
| 10:24.50 | sandman13 | petern_: what do you mean? |
| 10:24.53 | tomboy65 | sandman13: check the loaded modules. it's likely you only removed userspace-alsa stuff |
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| 10:25.18 | tomboy65 | sandman13: if you really removed it, there might still be oss left. |
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| 10:26.13 | sandman13 | tomboy65: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf this? |
| 10:26.29 | tomboy65 | sandman13: lsmod |
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| 10:28.53 | sandman13 | tomboy65: I don't see 'alsa' but here is the modules list: http://bpaste.net/show/qMkv54x33LuB3lKSf9CZ/ |
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| 10:29.49 | tomboy65 | sandman13: the 4 modules responsible for your sound are loaded. |
| 10:29.50 | tomboy65 | snd_hda_codec 78031 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi |
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| 10:30.16 | tomboy65 | also, there's soundcore 13065 1 snd |
| 10:30.32 | sandman13 | tomboy65: if that's the case then why do we need alsa, pulseaudio or oss |
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| 10:31.57 | trewas | sandman13: those snd* modules is what alsa is, and the userspace part (libasound2) which you probably still have |
| 10:32.25 | tomboy65 | sandman13: think of it as your car's stereo. it's perfectly capable to playback warning noises or the sound of your cd-changer in your trunk. but to change the volume or listen to radio you do want a console next to the wheel. |
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| 10:32.59 | tomboy65 | sandman13: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Module-HOWTO/index.html |
| 10:33.04 | tomboy65 | do some reading. |
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| 10:33.34 | reactormonk | How do I get a new package into the repos? |
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| 10:34.54 | tomboy65 | reactormonk: if it's a decent program, chances are good it's already in one. otherwise you might have chances by filing a bug with the repo-maintainers. |
| 10:35.01 | tomboy65 | reactormonk: otherwise, create your own repo. |
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| 10:38.51 | sandman13 | tomboy65: seems like the whole article discusses about Loading Kernel Modules except for the first few pages of it |
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| 10:39.32 | tomboy65 | yes. it discusses what kernel modules are, since you seemed to know zip about it. |
| 10:40.10 | tomboy65 | why in your case sound still works? no idea. probably you tried to break it incompletely. |
| 10:41.02 | sandman13 | tomboy65: may be |
| 10:41.11 | tomboy65 | :) |
| 10:41.35 | tomboy65 | are you just poking around? or trying to achieve something in particular? |
| 10:41.44 | sandman13 | I figured out that without alsa there would be no sound mixing as alsamixer doesn't work |
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| 10:42.17 | tomboy65 | without the userspace tools, indeed |
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| 10:42.34 | sandman13 | tomboy65: I had a problem, alsa won't remember the sound settings I have saved for sound card |
| 10:42.45 | tomboy65 | some sound cards support hardware-mixing, though. |
| 10:42.59 | sandman13 | mine doesn't (Intel) |
| 10:43.02 | trewas | sandman13: but you still have libasound2, which is enough for playback even if some of the tools are missing |
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| 10:43.21 | tomboy65 | it's the hda codecs, you are using a realtek one. |
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| 10:43.53 | tomboy65 | hda = high definition audio = cheap chips with drivers |
| 10:44.25 | sandman13 | then how do i check if my sound card supports h/w mixing? |
| 10:44.26 | tomboy65 | e.g. not a soundcard in the traditional sense. |
| 10:44.43 | tomboy65 | it doesn't. |
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| 10:44.45 | petern_ | it doesn't |
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| 10:45.31 | tomboy65 | my distro uses the /etc/init.d/alsasound save command to save the current sound settings. how debian does that? no idea. |
| 10:46.04 | sandman13 | tomboy65: side question! what distro do you use? |
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| 10:46.19 | tomboy65 | sandman13: gentoo. |
| 10:46.33 | sandman13 | bows down to tomboy65 |
| 10:47.06 | tomboy65 | don't. it's not as hard as it sounds. but good to learn more about the system. |
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| 10:47.41 | tomboy65 | for servers i usually use debian or its derivatives. but i know very little about debian's internals, so ... |
| 10:47.49 | sandman13 | tomboy65: I have tried something that uses port system, freeBSD |
| 10:48.11 | tomboy65 | very similar to gentoo. but it's bsd, so hardware support is ... limited. |
| 10:48.27 | tomboy65 | the concept is the same, though. |
| 10:48.30 | sandman13 | after trying for 2 days straight to get openbox working, I quit |
| 10:48.38 | tomboy65 | heh |
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| 10:48.50 | tomboy65 | first time i installed gentoo it took me a week to get a desktop |
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| 10:49.02 | tomboy65 | but this is ot here, i suppose. |
| 10:49.03 | sandman13 | btw let's not clutter the channel and move it to #debian-offtopic |
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| 10:51.30 | reactormonk | tomboy65, bug? I'd call it a feature request ;-) |
| 10:52.00 | tomboy65 | reactormonk: it's still a bugreport :p |
| 10:52.14 | tomboy65 | nobody ever reads feature requests in forums ... cuz work |
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| 10:59.22 | xmite | is there a good tool to recover a bad data cd anyone can recommend? |
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| 11:01.40 | reactormonk | tomboy65, https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/nimrod/ this one for debian |
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| 11:01.54 | reactormonk | xmite, on a CD? how bad is it? |
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| 11:03.00 | xmite | reactormonk: the surface of the drive looks pretty decent (no scratches) and dd throws me about 10 logical block i/o errors (all sequential) |
| 11:03.40 | xmite | but it's a fairly cheap cd-r |
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| 11:05.02 | reactormonk | xmite, dd_rescue I assume? |
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| 11:05.52 | xmite | reactormonk: i'll have a look at it, thanks |
| 11:06.25 | gdm85 | hello everybody. I would like to hear your feedback regarding the way I pretend user to double-check his keyring in this script: https://github.com/gdm85/tenku/blob/master/docker/scripts/build-wheezy.sh (it is advised to check raw version for non-broken script lines), and referenced in this preamble https://github.com/gdm85/tenku/tree/master/docker/gitian-host#preamble |
| 11:06.58 | gdm85 | please note that this is not supposed to be perfect (it can't) but to increase awareness during unattended debootstraps. all your (non-abusive) comments welcome :) |
| 11:07.34 | reactormonk | xmite, it doesn't too anything fancy, it still reads what the CD drive gives you |
| 11:07.57 | gdm85 | will be right back |
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| 11:11.49 | tomboy65 | reactormonk: file a bug then, since you are the maintainer. though they might tell you to set up your own repository. |
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| 11:20.00 | reactormonk | tomboy65, I suppose there's tons of documentation on how to do that |
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| 11:21.58 | tomboy65 | well, you want to get your program known |
| 11:22.23 | tomboy65 | also ask with the other big distros, arch, gentoo, fedora ... |
| 11:22.36 | tomboy65 | classic pr work ;) |
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| 11:32.16 | medfly | hello, I am trying to install the ia32-libs package but it doesn't work. it depends on ia32-libs-i386 which is not installable. is there something I can do to amend this |
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| 11:35.37 | medfly | woo hoo! I found an alternative package that works! :D |
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| 12:10.51 | xmite | well so far for ddrescue... same issue :/ files are probably unrecoverable then |
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| 12:12.07 | hid3 | Hello. This night a cron script has made apt-get update & upgrade actions. php5-fpm was upgraded. Now it doesn't work with nginx (502 bad gateway). Error logs say that the permission is denied while reaching the socket. I've checked it and seems it is created from root:root instead of www-data. Any ideas how to fix that? |
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| 12:33.24 | pupil | hello |
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| 12:34.24 | pupil | i am using debian xfce4, and i like to have few saved session. how do i configure automaticly select one session after i login?? |
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| 12:36.09 | blue_sky | hid3: php5-fpm lives in /usr/sbin, all files there are root:root. Google "nginx php5-fpm debian 'bad gateway'" gives a lot of hits, maybe some suggestions there. |
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| 12:52.55 | sly007 | Hello, I am using jessie and I can’t find the « uwsgi » package - it exists in stable and sid, how do I get it in testing? |
| 12:54.31 | ToApolytoXaos | sly007, how about installing it with pip? |
| 12:54.50 | sly007 | sly007: it’s not a python package, is it? |
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| 12:56.04 | srged | alsa-utils is already installed. but how do I open alsamixer? |
| 12:56.10 | dw | is there some tool to diff on-disk permissions against original package file permissions? i tarred up a machine, untarred it and looks like at least setuid bits have been reset, now pg won't start |
| 12:56.20 | sly007 | ToApolytoXaos: Thanks! |
| 12:56.36 | ToApolytoXaos | no worries sly007 |
| 12:57.11 | gry | srged: type 'alsamixer' in terminal and it will open |
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| 12:57.31 | srged | cannot open mixer: No such device or address |
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| 12:58.48 | srged | gry: it says no such device |
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| 13:05.30 | srged | I want to load module... snd-pcm-oss |
| 13:05.36 | srged | whats the command for this |
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| 13:13.12 | jpinx | 2 questions - how can I read the full-path filename of the kernel currently running, and, can I edit the name of a kernel - maybe adding something like "-clone" -so that I can tell what's actually happening here? ;) TIA and have a good weekend :) |
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| 13:17.47 | srged | alsa mixer would not open |
| 13:18.24 | Brigo | jpinx, the kernel is always in /boot/ you can know its name with the command uname -a |
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| 13:19.05 | Brigo | jpinx, i no, you can not edit the kernel's name or grub will can not find it |
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| 13:19.21 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:21.28 | jpinx | Brigo: thankz :) |
| 13:21.43 | Brigo | np |
| 13:22.06 | jpinx | Brigo: but uname -a does not give the fullpath |
| 13:22.36 | ToApolytoXaos | question: youtube videos of 1080p resolution play perfectly, but blu-ray movies and DVDs are lagging for some reason. is there anything i should check? cheers |
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| 13:22.44 | Brigo | jpinx, no, i do know how to get the full path easely |
| 13:23.15 | jpinx | Brigo: nor me ;) Hence asking for the hard way in here ;) |
| 13:23.23 | RoyK | hm... using a guruplug, I find 200MB is used in /var/cache, most of it in apt, apt-get clean doesn't seem to clean this - any way I can do this? |
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| 13:24.30 | srged | alsa mixer would not open |
| 13:24.36 | srged | any clue? |
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| 13:25.53 | RoyK | can I safely remove what's in /var/cache/apt? |
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| 13:26.20 | ToApolytoXaos | srged, you have been asking for how many times now why alsa mixer would not open. have you checked your log files in /var/log/ area? |
| 13:26.27 | themill | RoyK: "apt-get clean" (or autoclean, depending on what you want to do -- check the man page) |
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| 13:27.17 | themill | RoyK: the .bin files would be created the next time you used apt |
| 13:27.24 | RoyK | themill: I did - there's still 200MB there, and this guruplug has a very small root |
| 13:27.51 | Brigo | jpinx, try this: ocate vmlinuz-$(uname -a|cut -d" " -f3 |cut -d"-" -f1) |
| 13:27.57 | Brigo | jpinx, try this: locate vmlinuz-$(uname -a|cut -d" " -f3 |cut -d"-" -f1) |
| 13:27.57 | srged | ToApolytoXaos: ok im in /var/log now what should I look for |
| 13:27.59 | RoyK | themill: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7607800/ |
| 13:28.02 | RoyK | that's what's there |
| 13:28.23 | themill | RoyK: the .bin.* files look like they're left over from failed processes |
| 13:28.37 | RoyK | ok, I'll try to remove those, then |
| 13:28.54 | themill | and I don't know why they're not owned by root.... |
| 13:29.27 | RoyK | well, they're gone :P |
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| 13:31.46 | srged | ToApolytoXaos: ? |
| 13:31.53 | jubo2 | Hello and Shukran, Shukran FLGOSS devels |
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| 13:32.28 | jubo2 | a production server is grinding to halt and squat due to tens of Apache2 processes eating up all the memory - http://picpaste.com/pics/VPS_Debian6.topshot-4aCGqSNl.1402147882.png |
| 13:32.44 | jubo2 | that's a screen grab of the top output |
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| 13:32.53 | jpinx | Brigo: bingo :) thanks |
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| 13:33.21 | Brigo | :) |
| 13:34.56 | jubo2 | afaik I haven't changed any confs related to Apache2 |
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| 13:36.41 | Gyndawyr | hello |
| 13:37.06 | Brigo | jubo2, may be you have too much connections. |
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| 13:37.53 | jubo2 | could be a DoS then ehh ? |
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| 13:38.05 | jubo2 | something is also sucking the idles to 0% |
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| 13:38.15 | jubo2 | 'sudo apachectl stop' hangs forever |
| 13:38.29 | Brigo | did you look at logs? |
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| 13:38.43 | srged | sudo apt-get can someone help me get sound working? :) |
| 13:38.45 | jubo2 | Brigo: that ís a good idea |
| 13:39.07 | jubo2 | I reboot the server via hosting guys' console |
| 13:40.23 | Brigo | jubo2, there is some nice applications who analyces the logs and show you interesting information about them |
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| 13:42.04 | jubo2 | upon 'sudo apachectl start' the number of apaches starts at configured start thread ( 5 iirc ) but then it rapidly goes up |
| 13:42.13 | jubo2 | this may actually be a DDoS attack |
| 13:42.56 | jubo2 | I've been banning and deleting posts of some bots with impressive writing abilities.. they may have gotten pissed off and attack the site http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/ |
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| 13:43.08 | Brigo | jubo2, you can analyce too the netwok connections to port 80 and the traffic |
| 13:43.30 | jubo2 | maybe I restart and 'tail -f access.log' |
| 13:43.44 | jubo2 | see if it's getting a ton of hits / second |
| 13:44.17 | jubo2 | actually this server is so lightweight series that even 100's of accesses per second will grind it to semi-stopped state |
| 13:44.54 | centrx | jubo2, Set up a firewall or a load-balancer in front of your apache |
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| 13:46.12 | jubo2 | centrx: I have a iptables firewall set naturally |
| 13:46.29 | jubo2 | lets 22, 53 and 80 through |
| 13:46.35 | jubo2 | no 443 support in this server |
| 13:46.46 | centrx | jubo2, Maybe set up some rules based on too many accesses at once, or from the same IP address |
| 13:47.18 | jubo2 | I try the restart apache2 and tail -f access.log to see if there is too much connection attempts going on |
| 13:47.22 | sandman13 | i am getting this error in virtualbox, I checked for /etc/init.d/vboxdrv but there is no such file or directory. Error: http://bpaste.net/show/xYR2k7TrsJr81ZoySTNn/ |
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| 13:49.41 | KrunchyAl | hi, can someone help me with packaging xen 4.4 into a .deb pls? 'make deb' fails with make: *** No rule to make target `deb'. Stop. |
| 13:49.55 | centrx | sandman13, What is the output of: dpkg -l |grep virtualbox |
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| 13:50.25 | sandman13 | centrx: nothing |
| 13:50.45 | centrx | KrunchyAl, You might have better luck doing a source backport from the version in Debian testing/unstable |
| 13:50.47 | centrx | dpkg, tell KrunchyAl about ssb |
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| 13:50.57 | centrx | sandman13, That means you do not have virtualbox installed |
| 13:51.08 | sandman13 | centrx: I installed it via backports |
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| 13:51.36 | centrx | sandman13, It would be listed with that command if you installed it in the form of Debian package(s) |
| 13:52.12 | jubo2 | Brigo: max few hits per second in the access.log |
| 13:52.21 | jubo2 | so not a port 80 DoS |
| 13:52.27 | sandman13 | centrx: I have tried reinstalling it but: http://bpaste.net/show/DjqQkX1iSFwJ1owuq3j5/ |
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| 13:53.03 | centrx | sandman13, Maybe you typed "dpkg -l |grep virtualbox" wrong? |
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| 13:53.35 | sandman13 | indeed |
| 13:53.40 | sandman13 | :) |
| 13:53.46 | sandman13 | punches himself |
| 13:54.20 | sandman13 | centrx: btw here is the output: http://bpaste.net/show/q8df9Jd7aSWylo7b2wEX/ |
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| 13:55.30 | centrx | sandman13, Odd, the latest version in backports is 4.3.10-dfsg-1~bpo70+1 |
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| 13:56.14 | eptalon | heyas |
| 13:57.08 | centrx | sandman13, This may not do anything except get you the latest version, but: apt-get update && apt-get -t wheezy-backports install virtualbox |
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| 14:00.21 | sandman13 | centrx: okay btw would it be a good idea to run apt-get -t wheezy-backports dist-upgrade? |
| 14:00.50 | centrx | Upgrading everything to backports seems somewhat risky and unnecessary |
| 14:01.15 | centrx | Backports are generally for individual packages that you want to upgrade, not a running release for your entire system |
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| 14:02.39 | sandman13 | centrx: does it have to something with linux headers? |
| 14:03.25 | centrx | sandman13, The virtualbox-dkms package is supposed to depend on the right headers and compile and install the kernel module for you (vboxdrv) |
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| 14:04.10 | eptalon | sandman13: you#ll need that module to start virtualbox sessions |
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| 14:04.53 | centrx | sandman13, Can you pastie your sources.list ? |
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| 14:05.03 | sandman13 | perhaps this thing was causing the error: [ - ] virtualbox |
| 14:05.15 | sandman13 | from services --status-all |
| 14:05.34 | sandman13 | indeed |
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| 14:05.49 | centrx | Makes sense |
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| 14:06.04 | sandman13 | it started -_- |
| 14:06.10 | centrx | Great |
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| 14:06.46 | centrx | sandman13, Note that you are still using the version from wheezy, not backports. I think it may be if your sources.list line for backports does not have contrib or non-free |
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| 14:07.07 | sandman13 | centrx: let me paste that for you :) |
| 14:07.36 | hthg | Hi, when I boot up my laptop after the grub screen the backlight turns completely off, and I can't do anything to get it to light up. The only thing that works is making the laptop going to sleep and then turn it back on. Is there a way to solve this without going to sleep, or just preventing it from happening? Help? (I'm running debian jessie w/ linux kernel 3.14-1-amd64 on a dell m1330 with an intell graphics adapter (GM965/GL960) ) |
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| 14:08.47 | centrx | hthg, This may be related: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749017 |
| 14:09.25 | KrunchyAl | centrx I've had a good look around backports |
| 14:09.34 | KrunchyAl | and can only find Xen 4.1 stuff. i have compiled 4.4 |
| 14:09.45 | KrunchyAl | just need to make it into a .deb |
| 14:09.45 | hthg | centrx: thanks, I'll try it out |
| 14:10.21 | centrx | KrunchyAl, Yes, in this case I am recommending you do so with the Debian source packages for 4.4, from the next release of Debian currently in beta/"testing"/"unstable" |
| 14:10.34 | sandman13 | centrx: here http://bpaste.net/show/S2zCZrq4Lb4TXyIuBlRt/ |
| 14:10.53 | KrunchyAl | i don't understand... sorry |
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| 14:11.39 | centrx | KrunchyAl, xen 4.4 is in Debian -- in the next release. In order to use it with your current release (wheezy/stable), you need to compile it, as you are doing |
| 14:12.09 | centrx | KrunchyAl, If you compile it using the Debian package system, with the "source" package from the next (beta) release, it will work much more seamlessly |
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| 14:12.42 | centrx | sandman13, Yeah, add contrib non-free to the backports line, like the regular line above it |
| 14:12.43 | KrunchyAl | aha. ok. so rather than use the Xen from git I download the source from.... *this is where my understanding runs out* :) |
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| 14:13.00 | centrx | sandman13, then apt-get update && apt-get install virtualbox again, and you will upgrade to the latest version in backports |
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| 14:13.23 | sandman13 | okay thanks centrx |
| 14:13.30 | centrx | KrunchyAl, Did you get a message from the bot, dpkg? This has instructions for how to do it. You can get them again with: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 14:13.48 | KrunchyAl | yes i did. didn't undestand but i will try reading again. thanks for you help |
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| 14:14.49 | centrx | KrunchyAl, Anywhere it says "ask me about <deb-src sid>" or anything in the brackets <> that is another keyword you can ask the bot about |
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| 14:15.02 | centrx | KrunchyAl, So go through the steps, and ask here if you have any questions |
| 14:15.13 | KrunchyAl | ok, thanks man |
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| 14:17.08 | KrunchyAl | centrx the sid sources are pulling down xen 4.3 |
| 14:17.13 | KrunchyAl | i specifically need 4.4 |
| 14:17.20 | KrunchyAl | for the passthrough improvements it provides... |
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| 14:18.04 | centrx | KrunchyAl, Oh, sorry. I misread something at packages.debian.org/xen |
| 14:18.12 | centrx | KrunchyAl, It looks like only "xen-tools" is version 4.4 |
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| 14:18.37 | centrx | KrunchyAl, So I guess you are stuck with the method you were using before. But source backports is good for other packages you might compile in the future |
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| 14:19.20 | KrunchyAl | yes they are a good tool i didn't know about. thanks for that. thing is the Xen wiki says to run 'make deb' and that's it. any clues, hints or rabbit holes you can send me down? |
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| 14:19.21 | centrx | KrunchyAl, "make deb" fails presumably because there is no make info in the xen source for making a deb |
| 14:19.27 | eptalon | my firefox hangs in checking the compatibility of addons), current testing/unstable |
| 14:19.46 | centrx | Oh the instructions mention make deb but it doesn't work for some reason |
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| 14:23.47 | centrx | KrunchyAl, Try asking in #xen |
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| 14:36.32 | shenk | is there a reason not to change the shell from dash to bash other than the quicker startup time? |
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| 14:37.06 | eptalon | shenk: bash is the std linux shell |
| 14:37.58 | centrx | eptalon, Maybe firefox is hanging just because of a network issue? |
| 14:38.04 | centrx | eptalon, Do you have firefox or iceweasel installed? |
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| 14:38.49 | eptalon | centrx: iceweasel, worx again |
| 14:38.59 | centrx | shenk, If you are referring to startup scripts that use dash, there is the possibility of bugs/behavior that depends on the specific sh version |
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| 14:39.19 | centrx | shenk, Even though by design either dash or bash should work |
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| 14:44.07 | haxx0r | www.anon.fm |
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| 14:48.55 | sandman13 | is it okay to install linux-headers from backports? Virtuabox is not starting |
| 14:49.24 | wols | depends on the kernel you re running, if you run a bpo kernel, then you must install headers from bpo too |
| 14:49.31 | wols | kernel and headers must be the same version |
| 14:49.56 | sandman13 | wols: how to check that? |
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| 14:51.11 | wols | uname -a |
| 14:51.40 | sandman13 | Linux ghost 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux wols |
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| 14:53.54 | wols | sandman13: this is a normal debian wheezy kernel, so install the headers from wheezy, not backports |
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| 14:56.43 | sandman13 | wols: I removed the previously installed headers (from backports) and installed from wheezy still the virtualbox is not starting |
| 14:57.14 | wols | sandman13: what are the actual errors? is the vbox module loaded? |
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| 14:58.32 | sandman13 | wols: it was loaded but I had to restart it, now it's working |
| 14:58.39 | sandman13 | thanks wols |
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| 15:11.07 | Tau | hello. there is a graphical login screen when debian initializes. how can i remove it? |
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| 15:11.18 | Tau | i'm using fvwm. i want a text login screen. |
| 15:11.54 | wols | !tell Tau about nodm |
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| 15:14.28 | Gyndawyr | Can I install Steam or Skype with Wheezy? |
| 15:14.52 | jhutchins | Tau: Do you just want a pure text environment? |
| 15:14.52 | Tau | nice. |
| 15:15.01 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:15.05 | Tau | i think i fixed it. |
| 15:15.08 | Tau | thank you guys. |
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| 15:15.16 | jhutchins | Just disable the DM then, with something like rcconf. |
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| 15:19.29 | Gyndawyr | Can I install Steam or Skype with Wheezy? ^^ |
| 15:19.41 | Brigo | ,v steam |
| 15:19.42 | judd | Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free: 1.0.0.47-2; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.47-2 |
| 15:20.26 | Brigo | !tell Gyndawyr about ssb |
| 15:20.54 | Brigo | Gyndawyr, that dpkg (a bot) told you is for install steam from jessie or sid. |
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| 15:21.24 | Gyndawyr | the question is whether it'll work if I try installing it on Wheezy |
| 15:21.25 | Brigo | If you want to install skype, ask google about a how to install skype in debian wheezy, not too dificult |
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| 15:22.03 | Gyndawyr | Brigo: I did that, I added i386 or something to my list of sources on top of amd64, but when I ran the skype installer it complained about my machine not being i386... |
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| 15:22.11 | Brigo | Gyndawyr, no, it is not, it is to be compiles using wheezy libraries,but it is not dificult. |
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| 15:22.58 | Brigo | Gyndawyr, it is not so easy, i not remeber how, but i know you miss some step. |
| 15:23.25 | mtn | Gyndawyr: the debian wiki covers skype installation |
| 15:23.36 | Gyndawyr | cheers mtn |
| 15:24.26 | Gyndawyr | yeah the instructions for skype on the wiki look better than the ones I found by googling |
| 15:24.44 | Gyndawyr | assuming that works, I just need to know how to get steam to work (or whether it will) |
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| 15:25.21 | mtn | Gyndawyr: the bot told you how to do it |
| 15:25.31 | mtn | Gyndawyr: or at least one way to do it |
| 15:25.33 | Brigo | Gyndawyr, dpkg told you, install sid src sources, get the source package and build it againt wheezy |
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| 15:26.07 | Gyndawyr | I never understand what's going on in my sources.list file... |
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| 15:26.55 | Cpuroast | sources.list is pretty straight forward |
| 15:27.27 | Brigo | Gyndawyr, do you have a line starting with deb-src? |
| 15:27.44 | Gyndawyr | I'll put it in pastebin |
| 15:27.48 | Brigo | ok |
| 15:28.26 | Gyndawyr | http://pastebin.com/Ww2XNM3N there |
| 15:28.51 | Brigo | the line 7: deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 15:28.54 | Gyndawyr | I've commented out the cd-rom cause that was annoying |
| 15:29.14 | Brigo | copy it at the end and change wheezy by sid |
| 15:29.42 | Gyndawyr | sorry? |
| 15:29.43 | Brigo | deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free <--this way |
| 15:30.11 | Brigo | add this line to the end of your sources.lst |
| 15:30.21 | Brigo | then apt-get update |
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| 15:32.24 | Gyndawyr | how do I check for a backport of steam? |
| 15:32.34 | Gyndawyr | last time I used the wiki search function it didn't come up with anything |
| 15:32.45 | Brigo | and then aptitude install build-essential |
| 15:32.53 | wols | add backports repo and use apt-cache search. but I very much doubt there is one |
| 15:32.56 | Brigo | there is no backport of steam yet |
| 15:33.11 | wols | I doubt you can make one either due to steam being closed source and compiled against a newer libc |
| 15:33.31 | wols | the way to do is a chroot and/or LD_PRELOAD |
| 15:33.55 | Gyndawyr | all of it flies straight over my head :( |
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| 15:34.36 | wols | there are tons of howtos out there for it. just show us before you embark, some of them are criminally stupid |
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| 15:34.56 | zamba | i have an old system running lenny.. how can i upgrade this? |
| 15:35.08 | zamba | do i have to go through squeeze first? |
| 15:35.17 | aguitel | yes |
| 15:35.23 | wols | yes, to squeeze, then to wheezy |
| 15:35.25 | zamba | where can i get squeeze packages? |
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| 15:35.34 | zamba | archive.debian.org doesn't contain squeeze anymore |
| 15:36.14 | Brigo | Gyndawyr, for example: http://ein-eike.de/2013/12/02/installing-steam-on-debian-wheezy-64-bit-the-easy-way/ |
| 15:36.24 | wols | !tell zamba about squeeze sources.list |
| 15:36.30 | Gyndawyr | thank you ^_^ |
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| 15:37.08 | zamba | Brigo: thanks :) |
| 15:37.09 | wols | zamba: archive doesn't contain squeeze yet. it's still oldstable and then there is LTS too |
| 15:37.09 | aguitel | zamba: do you have /home in separate partition? |
| 15:37.23 | zamba | aguitel: /home is actually nfs-mounted |
| 15:38.07 | aguitel | zamba: maybe do fresh wheezy install witouth format /home partition |
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| 15:38.39 | ompaul | zamba: the quickest way is to download a new version, and install that have backed up anything you want later and it will be a lot faster |
| 15:38.47 | ompaul | as an install than two upgrades |
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| 15:46.36 | jhutchins | wols: WHat about squeeze security? |
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| 15:51.23 | jhutchins | Anybody know what the status of squeeze security is? I was getting 404's a couple of days ago, has it moved? |
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| 15:55.27 | aguitel | jhutchins: people say security updates are from squeeze server edition only |
| 15:55.46 | aguitel | not for gnome2 |
| 15:56.01 | raspberrypifan | im trying to use tab to autocomplete but it doesnt seem to work on konsole |
| 15:56.02 | jhutchins | aguitel: Is there a special url for server adition? I don't run gnome anyway, and openssl isn't a desktop thing. |
| 15:56.13 | jhutchins | aguitel: The problem is that the security URL is giving a 404. |
| 15:56.41 | jmcnaught | !squeeze-lts |
| 15:56.41 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" will continue until 2016-02-06 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main». See also the «check-support-status» command from the debian-security-support package and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:56.45 | aguitel | i don't knmw url |
| 15:56.49 | jhutchins | tries to imagine security issues with gnome. |
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| 15:57.20 | jhutchins | jmcnaught: Ah, thank you very much |
| 15:57.33 | raspberrypifan | im ttying to run a script as root and im getting permission denied |
| 15:57.51 | jmcnaught | jhutchins: no problem.. regular squeeze security support ended May 31st i believe |
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| 16:00.09 | eptalon | raspberrypifan: is the executable bit set? |
| 16:00.21 | raspberrypifan | whats the command for that again? |
| 16:00.51 | jhutchins | jmcnaught: Yeah, hence the 404s |
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| 16:01.22 | eptalon | raspberrypifan: chmod +x foo.sh |
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| 16:02.04 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: Also the "magc word" or "hashbang" that says what interpreter to use. |
| 16:02.27 | raspberrypifan | how do i check what ip adddress my Debian VM has on it |
| 16:02.59 | eptalon | raspberrypifan: #!/bin/bash(usually the first line of the script) |
| 16:03.20 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: usually /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 16:12.00 | adamsilver | how i can check which version will be installed before installing? |
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| 16:19.35 | saintgermain | Hello, on my Debian Testing I got a problem with gnome-shell after an update. The whole screen is black, and I have only the top bar to use application. Impossible to use the hot corner, to access Activities, to see any shortcuts, to switch to other workspace or to use Alt-Tab to switch application. Does someone have an idea of what have gone wrong and how to debug ? Thanks |
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| 16:22.38 | Tau | guys. |
| 16:22.41 | Tau | congratulations. |
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| 16:22.47 | Tau | you have created the most broken thing ever. |
| 16:23.00 | eptalon | Tau: we try very hard. |
| 16:23.08 | Tau | i just took gdm3 off /etc/default-display-manager. |
| 16:23.20 | Tau | then i had to enter in rescue mode because it didnt set default text mode. |
| 16:23.27 | Tau | then i finally fixed the thing. |
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| 16:23.36 | Tau | so now i cant make startx launch fvwm. |
| 16:23.49 | Tau | even after doing a dozen of times update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 16:23.54 | Tau | and setting fvwm as default. |
| 16:24.08 | Tau | so, should i start praying to the skies? |
| 16:24.49 | Tau | jesus christ. how can i set fvwm to launch after startx? |
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| 16:26.32 | mtn | Tau: I think you need to edit your .xinitrc correctly |
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| 16:27.08 | Tau | mtn i want to make it default to all users. |
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| 16:28.35 | Tau | mtn it just points to ./etc/X11/Xsession |
| 16:28.44 | Tau | Xsession is a bash script. |
| 16:28.51 | Tau | mtn i have no idea how to edit that. |
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| 16:29.01 | Tau | in order to make fvwm start instead of gnome. |
| 16:29.39 | eptalon | Tau: whats your favorite editor? |
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| 16:31.26 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.43 | eptalon | Tau: then use that to edit the scripz |
| 16:32.49 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.50 | Tau | cool |
| 16:32.51 | Tau | but |
| 16:32.54 | Tau | what should i do in it |
| 16:32.59 | Tau | call fvwm? |
| 16:33.03 | Tau | inside it? |
| 16:33.06 | Tau | like fvwm2? |
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| 17:01.02 | JyZyXEL | when i do: apt-get source linux-image-3.15-rc8-amd64 where does the default debian .config file go? |
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| 17:03.23 | JyZyXEL | hmm looks like its debian/config/config |
| 17:03.33 | unicornjedi | hi guys, im trying to install debian wheezy on an old 32bit laptop via USB. The installation seems to be stuck on (Installing system). How do I check if the installation is actually working? |
| 17:03.55 | JyZyXEL | wait no, that cannot be |
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| 17:06.30 | JyZyXEL | do the sources even come with the debian config? |
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| 17:15.22 | jhutchins | Wheezy upgrade unsuccessful. User is a member of netdev but does not have permission to enable wifi connection. |
| 17:16.01 | zzsd384 | when i log into debian from the tty prompt, after successfull login, a message is displayed which has info similar to uname -a. does anyone know which file it is reading that from and how i can change it to display different information? |
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| 17:17.43 | buu | zzsd384: its uh motd |
| 17:18.35 | buu | zzsd384: See /etc/rc5.d/S01motd |
| 17:18.40 | zzsd384 | buu, it's not motd. that is the message before login, not after |
| 17:18.52 | jhutchins | zzsd384: /etc/issue |
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| 17:19.21 | zzsd384 | jhutchins: i already changed /etc/issue. it's not that either. |
| 17:19.42 | buu | What? |
| 17:20.03 | buu | I see motd after I log in |
| 17:20.35 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.35 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.36 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.08 | zzsd384 | you do? i already cleared /etc/motd and /etc/issue and made them blank files but still see a uname -a after i enter my password |
| 17:21.24 | buu | zzsd384: Because its executing motd.dynamic ? |
| 17:21.57 | buu | Or rather, outputting |
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| 17:22.15 | zzsd384 | buu: you mean the /etc/rc5.d/S01motd file? |
| 17:22.32 | buu | That file is executed at system init |
| 17:22.36 | buu | It creates motd.dynamic |
| 17:22.38 | buu | Which is output when you log in |
| 17:22.43 | buu | See pam_motd |
| 17:23.07 | buu | dpkg: motd |
| 17:23.07 | dpkg | The "Message Of The Day" (MOTD) may be shown to users at login time. Since Debian 7 "Wheezy", motd is entirely under the control of the administrator; edit /etc/motd as desired. The dynamic part of the MOTD is in /run/motd.dynamic and is prepended to your /etc/motd; this dynamic part is generated by /etc/init.d/motd should you also need to customise it. See "man 5 motd". For Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", see <motd squeeze>. |
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| 17:23.45 | zzsd384 | buu: in /etc/pam.d? i don't see pam_motd |
| 17:24.05 | buu | no |
| 17:24.15 | zzsd384 | oh ok /run |
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| 17:24.36 | buu | zzsd384: man pam_motd |
| 17:25.04 | buu | Or just read the motd man page that the bot told you to |
| 17:26.14 | zzsd384 | buu: thanks for your help. you know for some reason when i cleared /etc/motd and /etc/issue, scripts in ~/bin were no longer in my PATH. do you think that's related to the changes i made? |
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| 17:26.58 | jhutchins | zzsd384: Not to those specific changes if that's all you actually did. |
| 17:27.03 | zzsd384 | i checked echo $PATH and instead of what it should be (~/home/A/bin) it had changed it to home/B/bin |
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| 17:27.24 | zzsd384 | ok |
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| 17:31.59 | MrCleanWithHair | ath9k issue: ar5416 chipset card, fails to initialize. http://pastebin.com/w7NtExYU for relevant information |
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| 17:33.59 | wols | MrCleanWithHair: this is not a ath9k card. this is a 802.11g card for which ath5k is used |
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| 17:34.17 | wols | 9k means atheros 9000 series chips, 5k means 5000 series chips |
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| 17:38.51 | jhutchins | Any suggestions on something to perhaps reinstall to enable wifi? |
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| 17:39.24 | MrCleanWithHair | wols, it's an 802.11n card |
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| 17:47.36 | MrCleanWithHair | blacklisted ath9k and loaded ath5k, didn't help. undid those changes. removed ath9k from /etc/modules and error changed slightly: http://pastebin.com/LpmPqq3M |
| 17:48.09 | zzsd384 | what would be the easiest way to change my $PATH entry of /home/A/bin to /home/B/bin? |
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| 17:54.48 | lamrz | hello everyone, I have a problem with grep command. I'm trying to get byte offsets by grep command by using disk images, using the command here: http://dpaste.com/14HF51M/ I could make it work on a usb drive. but on other usb drives I get the message "grep: memory exhausted"..what would this mean? |
| 17:55.24 | peterrooney | zzsd384: what are you actually trying to do? I have in .bashrc: [[ -d ~/bin ]] && export PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" |
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| 17:57.01 | Brigo | lamrz, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90036/grep-memory-exhausted |
| 17:57.54 | zzsd384 | peterrooney: somehow after a dist-upgrade, /home/A/bin was changed to /home/B/bin in my PATH |
| 17:59.41 | lamrz | Brigo, I am not experienced with grep. this command was given to me for me to apply a particular procedure. is there maybe something that I can add to the command or I can do to remove this message? |
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| 18:01.15 | jhutchins | Tried removing user from netdev, then re-adding with gpasswd, still can't control network. |
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| 18:02.17 | tremon | lamrz: try preprocessing the output with strings -o |
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| 18:03.17 | peterrooney | zzsd384: what does "grep PATH /etc/profile ~/.bash_login ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc ~/.profile" output? |
| 18:03.24 | tremon | well, you may not want octal offsets. strings -td may be more useful |
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| 18:04.53 | lamrz | tremon, so add -o to the end of the command "grep -E -a -b --only-matching '(GnomeKeyring|somename)' your_disk_or_image" ? |
| 18:05.20 | peterrooney | zzsd384: paste.debian.net to avoid getting kicked |
| 18:07.00 | tremon | lamrz: no, strings -td -n8 $input | grep '(GnomeKeyring|somename)' |
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| 18:08.38 | zzsd384 | peterrooney: http://paste.debian.net/103874/ |
| 18:08.40 | tremon | that should be grep -E ... |
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| 18:10.11 | lamrz | tremon, just to make sure, this command is also for finding gnomekeyring and keyring file offsets? |
| 18:11.22 | tremon | It will only match GnomeKeyring and somename, not gnomekeyring or keyring |
| 18:12.42 | tremon | lamrz: you can run the strings command on a small binary file to see what output it produces |
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| 18:14.42 | lamrz | tremon, I guess I can try it on one of my disk images, too, without causing any changes on image, right? |
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| 18:16.01 | tremon | yes, but it may run for a long time and may not produce the output you need. Often, it's better to test and tweak on a small file |
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| 18:18.25 | hugg | Hey, is there a backstory about why the harden-* packages have fallen out of maintenance? |
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| 18:19.04 | lamrz | tremon, where do I insert the image file on the above command? |
| 18:19.08 | adamsilver | how can i adjust this rule to open all ports between 8000 and 8080: -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8000 -j ACCEPT |
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| 18:19.23 | lamrz | strings -td -n8 $input | grep '(GnomeKeyring|somename) |
| 18:19.50 | tremon | lamrz: $input |
| 18:20.51 | lamrz | tremon, so like this: $ /media/mydisk/imagefile.dd ? |
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| 18:21.38 | tremon | without the $ |
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| 18:22.02 | lamrz | tremon, ah, ok, thank you :) |
| 18:22.08 | frostschutz | lamrz, grep -E, I don't think it supports (|) by default |
| 18:22.12 | frostschutz | does it? |
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| 18:22.36 | tremon | that's right, you need grep -E |
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| 18:22.55 | frostschutz | and -n 8 assumes your name is actually 8 chars long, need a lower -n for shorter names |
| 18:23.40 | frostschutz | tremon, I didn't know strings could print offsets, that's useful, thanks :) |
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| 18:24.10 | tremon | the -n8 was covered, he's matching (GnomeKeyring|somename) |
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| 18:24.53 | tremon | adamsilver: man iptables, search for --dport |
| 18:25.29 | tremon | adamsilver: although you can't match on all /open/ ports. It's either all ports in the range, or use the multiport match |
| 18:25.40 | lamrz | tremon, frostschutz, sorry..so what would be the final correct form of the command? |
| 18:26.39 | tremon | strings -td -n8 /media/mydisk/imagefile.dd | grep -E '(GnomeKeyring|somename)' |
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| 18:26.53 | lamrz | tremon, thank you! |
| 18:26.53 | eptalon | heyas |
| 18:26.57 | lamrz | I will try it now |
| 18:27.21 | eptalon | new iceweasel/ff sux, can you recommend something else? |
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| 18:29.27 | tremon | icecat? |
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| 18:32.49 | lamrz | tremon, for a filename < 8 characters, is the - n8 in the command still correct? |
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| 18:34.27 | tremon | the filename doesn't matter, it's about the length of the grep match. I added -n8 because the shortest you will match on is 'somename' which is 8 characters. No need in finding strings less than that size, since grep will filter them out anyway |
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| 18:35.32 | mva | hi there! |
| 18:35.59 | tremon | eptalon: http://www.palemoon.org/ |
| 18:37.07 | jhutchins | Seems drastic to have to reinstall wheezy just to get nm to work. |
| 18:37.13 | mva | i'm tryning to dist-upgrade squeeze to testing and apt throws an error about startpart (that it will not install it) |
| 18:37.19 | mva | is it any way to avoid it? |
| 18:37.42 | tremon | mva: don't do that. dist-upgrade to stable first |
| 18:37.42 | Brigo | mva, don not do it |
| 18:37.54 | Brigo | too slow :( |
| 18:37.59 | tremon | :p |
| 18:38.03 | Brigo | :D |
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| 18:38.47 | mva | tremon: thanks, I'll try ;) |
| 18:38.58 | fishcooker | after doing xinput_calibration .. is it necessary to restart the X? |
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| 18:41.15 | trampel | silly apt-get question: during a dist-upgrade the download drags to nearly a halt. but the machine needs to be shutdown. is it 'safe' to Ctrl-C out of the upgrade interrupting an incomplete download? |
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| 18:41.58 | MrCleanWithHair | trampel-- as long as it isn't isntalling things you'll be ok |
| 18:42.05 | tremon | the download phase is performed before changing any packages |
| 18:42.06 | MrCleanWithHair | if its just downloading it's fine |
| 18:42.19 | buu | Why does the machine need to be shut down? |
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| 18:42.51 | trampel | thanks. so it'll know to complete the partial download after reboot and restarting the upgrade? |
| 18:42.59 | fishcooker | after do calibration eGalax touchscreen with xinput_calibration command .. is it necessary to restart the X? |
| 18:44.18 | MrCleanWithHair | trampel-- yep |
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| 18:44.25 | trampel | thank you guys. |
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| 18:45.10 | KrunchyAl_ | hi (i'm back). trying to make a .deb of xen4.4. i've successfully compiled from source but am stuck when running 'make deb', it gives me an error 'make: *** No rule to make target 'deb'. Stop.' i have my Makefile uploaded to pastebin. hope someone can point me in the right direction pls. http://pastebin.com/0dG3eVpg |
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| 18:47.04 | tremon | KrunchyAl_: where is the deb: target? |
| 18:47.39 | KrunchyAl_ | tremon: doesn't mean a thing. maybe you can point me toward the relevant wiki post? |
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| 18:48.41 | Brigo | KrunchyAl_, why did you want to make your own xen package? |
| 18:48.44 | tremon | I don't know any wiki posts, nor am I familiar with xen4.4. But you posted a Makefile and stated an expectation that "make deb" should do something useful. |
| 18:48.53 | KrunchyAl_ | jessie only has xen 4.4 |
| 18:48.57 | KrunchyAl_ | *4.3 i mean |
| 18:49.00 | KrunchyAl_ | i want 4.4 |
| 18:49.10 | Brigo | ,v xen |
| 18:49.11 | judd | No package named 'xen' was found in i386. |
| 18:49.15 | tremon | so I looked for a deb: target in the Makefile, and noticed that it doesn't have one |
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| 18:50.57 | Brigo | KrunchyAl_, there is xen4.4 in sid, i think |
| 18:51.28 | KrunchyAl_ | why is making a /.deb so hard!? |
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| 18:51.37 | KrunchyAl_ | wish debian had the equivalent of AUR |
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| 18:52.18 | Brigo | KrunchyAl_, debian has good tools |
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| 18:52.28 | Brigo | !tell KrunchyAl_ about ssb |
| 18:52.30 | tremon | KrunchyAl_: creating a package for local consumption is mostly as easy as installing and running checkinstall |
| 18:52.37 | KrunchyAl_ | Brigo i bet, but i just dont know them yet |
| 18:53.26 | dondelelcaro | KrunchyAl_: most everything that you'd want for Debian is packaged; in the few cases where it isn't, it's not too difficult to package, and it's trivial to make them available |
| 18:53.51 | dondelelcaro | KrunchyAl_: Debian probably should do something along the lines of PPA, but there are still licensing problems and other issues which we'd have to deal with |
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| 18:54.11 | KrunchyAl_ | cool |
| 18:54.18 | KrunchyAl_ | i am going to try checkinstall |
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| 18:57.04 | jhutchins | Just upgraded from squeeze to wheezy, and although my user is still a member of netdev, I don't have permissions to enable the wifi connection with Network Manager. I get "Failed to add/activate connection \n (32) Not authorized to control networking |
| 18:57.49 | jhutchins | I've tried reinstalling the network-manager components. Purged them all, tried wicd and it doesn't see any networks (doesn't appear to turn wifi on either). |
| 18:57.58 | jhutchins | I can see the local network with iwlist scan |
| 18:59.02 | tremon | jhutchins: have you checked consolekit/policykit issues? (not that I'd know how to check for those, sadly) |
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| 19:04.41 | jhutchins | tremon: How does one deal with those in xfce? |
| 19:04.58 | jhutchins | tremon: It is the gnome applet. |
| 19:05.19 | Brigo | jhutchins, did you search the logs for errors? |
| 19:05.52 | jhutchins | Brigo: Actually, no, I didn't. |
| 19:06.01 | jhutchins | Brigo: Are you thinking the auth log maybe? |
| 19:06.17 | jhutchins | I did try adding a different user to netdev, and that user can't manage connections either. |
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| 19:10.00 | mase76 | hi! is there any possibility to play current flashgames in linux without windows? wine or something else? my wife wants to play farmville etc. and i don't want to buy win7 for that. |
| 19:11.10 | Brigo | mase76, yes, for sure |
| 19:11.12 | tremon | jhutchins: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/96054/non-root-user-cannot-control-networkmanager-polkit-rule-has-no-effect |
| 19:11.17 | rom1504 | mase76: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-install |
| 19:11.34 | formorer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.36 | formorer | it is flashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:11.36 | tremon | jhutchins: what display manager are you using? |
| 19:11.43 | mva | mase76: it is either possible to do it in browser and standalone with AIR |
| 19:11.56 | rom1504 | well on ubuntu, didn't check on debian |
| 19:12.04 | jhutchins | tremon: xdm |
| 19:12.04 | mase76 | i tried, but the version is too old. most games require the latest. |
| 19:12.19 | jhutchins | tremon: following link |
| 19:12.19 | Brigo | mva, AIR? |
| 19:12.26 | jhutchins | Brigo: Nothing apropos in the logs |
| 19:12.47 | Brigo | mase76, install chrome and peperflash |
| 19:12.51 | tremon | probably that link applies then. xdm and slim are not registering their sessions with consolekit |
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| 19:13.18 | mva | mase76: say 'thanks' for adobe. Although, you cal also try chrome [not chromium] if it is exist somewhere in repos. There is latest flash-plugin. |
| 19:13.19 | rom1504 | mase76: I never had any pb with flash on ubuntu anyway, does debian only provide an old version ? |
| 19:13.39 | knittl | hi. my pointing stick recently stopped moving vertically – it only moves horizontally or diagonally |
| 19:14.04 | mva | s/cal/can/ |
| 19:14.06 | knittl | anybody else experiences similar problems? can i somehow configure the driver? |
| 19:14.09 | rom1504 | knittl: did you try changing the mouse ? |
| 19:14.14 | mase76 | Brigo: you think that works? i will try. chrome only, not chromium? |
| 19:14.20 | knittl | rom1504: changing to what? |
| 19:14.27 | rom1504 | any other |
| 19:14.32 | jhutchins | tremon: Possible. |
| 19:14.33 | knittl | my mousepad still works like a charm |
| 19:14.40 | Brigo | mase76, chromium, and pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:14.41 | rom1504 | ok |
| 19:14.45 | Brigo | ,v |
| 19:14.46 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and i386 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
| 19:14.48 | rom1504 | so it's a mouse pb |
| 19:14.48 | Brigo | ,v pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
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| 19:14.49 | judd | Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 1.3; sid/contrib: 1.3 |
| 19:14.53 | knittl | external mouse as well |
| 19:15.00 | rom1504 | not pinting stick |
| 19:15.07 | Brigo | mase76, you will need to get it from backports |
| 19:15.15 | knittl | rom1504: the pointing stick's not working |
| 19:15.22 | mase76 | i am on jessie |
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| 19:15.32 | knittl | it's not moving (or very very slowly) on the vertical axis. unless i move diagonally … |
| 19:15.41 | rom1504 | due to your mouse pb, is it working on an other computer ? |
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| 19:16.08 | knittl | rom1504: it's a pointing stick, there is no other computer |
| 19:16.24 | Brigo | mase76, so no problem, then |
| 19:16.33 | rom1504 | oh |
| 19:16.44 | rom1504 | didn't know what a pointing stick was, sry |
| 19:16.55 | Brigo | mase76, i am on jessie too, and never had a problem with flash, but never played fb games yet |
| 19:16.58 | jhutchins | tremon: Dead on. Started the session with gdm and it works. |
| 19:17.03 | rom1504 | (thought you meant the arrow) |
| 19:17.12 | knittl | rom1504: http://xkcd.com/243/ |
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| 19:18.08 | Brigo | knittl, nice :) |
| 19:18.28 | trampel | so it's a 'keyboard' mouse |
| 19:18.37 | jhutchins | So should that be bugreported against xdm or against network-manager-gnome? |
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| 19:18.45 | knittl | it's a "DualPoint Stick" |
| 19:18.53 | jhutchins | What we really need is network-manager-gtk |
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| 19:20.51 | tremon | jhutchins: sadly, I don't expect this will be considered a bug, since even the official release notes say "don't use xdm". And the whole situation will change again for jessie, with systemd/logind replacing consolekit |
| 19:25.22 | tremon | but don't let that hold you back, you can always poke the maintainers for their thoughts on this :) |
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| 19:27.12 | jhutchins | tremon: We can hope that with more people abandoning gnome and kde for xfce and lxde and the like there might be some interest in a working NM applet. |
| 19:27.29 | jhutchins | tremon: I'm a little surprised that wicd still doesn't work for me. |
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| 19:28.30 | Brigo | jhutchins, well , there is a working one for mate O:) |
| 19:28.33 | tremon | yeah, I went back to wpa_supplicant after trying both wicd and NM |
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| 19:28.57 | Brigo | me too |
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| 19:53.41 | jhutchins | tremon: Was this something you'd heard about or just superior google-fu? |
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| 19:58.27 | |oop | afternoon kids |
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| 20:01.03 | Charlie | Sup |
| 20:02.32 | skribblezatcha | nada Charlie , whats up over your way? |
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| 20:03.31 | Charlie | Nothing much, admiring the view, having a beer |
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| 20:03.55 | Charlie | Boredom is a luxury I plan to take full advantage of |
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| 20:04.31 | skribblezatcha | thats cool Charlie . yeah i am just over here relaxing and chatting a bit man. i just went and restarted after updates and see that i can now change the mouse cursor and it works. so thats cool. |
| 20:05.16 | farv | frostschutz, I got 17 GnomeKeyring offsets from HDD ! |
| 20:05.29 | farv | frostschutz, this is lamrz |
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| 20:06.29 | Charlie | Hm, I've just been using the default cursors on the X package |
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| 20:07.21 | mase76 | some games run with pepperflash, farmville doesn't |
| 20:08.03 | farv | frostschutz, you'd given me an extraction command earlier: dd if=diskimage bs=1M count=1 iflag=skip_bytes skip=63273890 of=name.keyring where would I put the Gnomekeyring offset in this command? |
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| 20:10.30 | skribblezatcha | yeah, i have a few different ones to use. i tried changing it about a week ago and it wouldnt work..but now its doing pretty good. |
| 20:11.22 | xeno | Say, I am trying to figure out how to use debconf-set-selections to make promptless/guiless configuration of an arbitrary package? How do I find out the name and field types to use? |
| 20:12.47 | lamrz | tremon, could you maybe help me with my question please? |
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| 20:26.11 | frostschutz | lamrz, skip= ... |
| 20:27.09 | lamrz | frostschutz, skip=... must contain the offset number of GnomeKeyring? |
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| 20:27.28 | frostschutz | yes, I told you this earlier already, didn't I? :-/ |
| 20:28.17 | lamrz | frostschutz, I wasnt clear about this, sorry if I missed it.. |
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| 20:28.56 | lamrz | frostschutz, and then of=name.keyring will be the keyring names, trying each of 2 names separately? |
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| 20:29.57 | ezhik`_ | all they do is eat. |
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| 20:30.03 | ezhik`_ | whoops wrong window |
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| 20:45.57 | nmschulte | Hi all: is the android-tools-adb (https://packages.debian.org/sid/android-tools-adb) package all I need to start using the Android Debug Bridge w/ my phone? |
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| 20:47.53 | tapout | what's the command to see the latest kernels for wheezy? |
| 20:47.56 | tapout | !kernel |
| 20:47.57 | tapout | ? |
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| 20:48.16 | lamrz | frostschutz, I could just extract the two files on the other machine, but on another machine it gives the error: 'dd: invalid input flag: 'skip_bytes' |
| 20:48.23 | centrx | tapout, /msg judd kernels |
| 20:48.33 | centrx | tapout, in channel it's comma-triggered |
| 20:48.58 | centrx | nmschulte, That's what it looks like from reading it. |
| 20:49.10 | centrx | nmschulte, If you want to have an emulator running locally and so forth you need the SDK from Google |
| 20:50.17 | jmcnaught | nmschulte: you might also need to add some udev rules so that regular users have permission to access the device, at least i had to to use adb with my FxOS phone |
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| 20:53.37 | tapout | centrx, what's your opinion.. should I use wheezy backports kernel or just stay with the wheezy one? |
| 20:54.02 | centrx | Is this your personal desktop machine? |
| 20:54.17 | centrx | Do you need the newer kernel for some reason? |
| 20:54.35 | centrx | a specific reason |
| 20:55.02 | tapout | not a specific reason, new box that i'm going to use ... |
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| 20:55.53 | centrx | Backports is quite safe and fine for a personal machine |
| 20:56.00 | lamrz | tremon, I am getting 'dd: invalid input flag: 'skip_bytes' error when I type in this command: http://dpaste.com/0Y1D4Q9/ might you help me how to solve it? |
| 20:56.34 | centrx | tapout, You might find your new machine (if the hardware is new) requires a newer kernel, but otherwise if you do not have a reason, there's really no /reason/ to use the backports kernel. |
| 20:57.03 | tapout | ahh okay |
| 20:57.12 | tapout | thanks CEnnis91 |
| 20:57.13 | tapout | centre |
| 20:57.16 | tapout | centrx |
| 20:57.18 | tapout | :) |
| 20:57.27 | centrx | so many impostors |
| 20:58.08 | tapout | hehe, bad autocomplete on my part |
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| 21:06.02 | truexfan81 | weird, my laptop won't sleep |
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| 21:07.33 | CEnnis91 | I WAS HELPFUL |
| 21:07.39 | CEnnis91 | apparently |
| 21:07.56 | centrx | Well done ceny |
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| 21:08.55 | truexfan81 | any idea why debian would not put it to sleep when the lid is closed? |
| 21:09.02 | CEnnis91 | heh ce is horrible to auto complete with in this channel |
| 21:09.12 | truexfan81 | this is on battery power also |
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| 21:09.55 | centrx | truexfan81, Is Power Management installed and configured? |
| 21:10.01 | truexfan81 | centrx: yes |
| 21:10.19 | truexfan81 | centrx: its set to suspend when the lid is closed |
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| 21:52.16 | Zeechs | hi, I just installed Jessie for the 1st time and I'm trying to install my usual softwares. According to debian.org, "steam" is supposed to be available in the repo... but apt doesn't find it. What did I do wrong? >< |
| 21:53.10 | Zeechs | contrib and non-free are enabled in my sources.list btw |
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| 22:05.50 | Zeechs | "dpkg --add-architecture i386" fixed my problem |
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| 22:32.43 | Evropi | ETA on when systemd will become the default? |
| 22:32.52 | Evropi | will it be in Debian 7? |
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| 22:36.58 | zykotick9 | Evropi: that's the plan. all the debate was "what will the default for jessie be" |
| 22:37.10 | Evropi | o ok |
| 22:37.13 | Evropi | ETA? |
| 22:37.26 | zykotick9 | Evropi: "when it's read" is the official answer i believe ;) |
| 22:37.38 | zykotick9 | ready |
| 22:37.53 | Evropi | thank you |
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| 22:43.36 | srged | guy, i can't get my ALSA to work, I keep trying for 4 days already. anyone with patiance ca help? |
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| 22:51.27 | err404 | srged, o/ |
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| 22:52.08 | srged | err404: can you help? |
| 22:52.28 | err404 | I hope |
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| 22:53.38 | err404 | srged, can you explain more precisely your problem with alsa? please? |
| 22:53.43 | srged | err404: I installed alsa, and alsa mixer gui. when i start alsa mixer from the menu... it says... alsamixer function snd_ctl_open failed for default |
| 22:54.28 | srged | err404: if I try to starts alsamixer from terminal it says: |
| 22:54.29 | srged | ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_oss.so |
| 22:54.32 | srged | cannot open mixer: No such device or address |
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| 22:55.20 | err404 | srged, did you try some live usb or live cd ? |
| 22:55.44 | err404 | and you can may be add alsa-oss |
| 22:56.03 | srged | err404: I only have one live usb. but since its small capacity I was only able to put debian standard on it. so there is no GUI |
| 22:56.43 | srged | err404: alsa-oss is already the newest version. |
| 22:57.02 | err404 | nogui is not real problem, you can open terminal and type alsamixer |
| 22:57.19 | srged | err404: is there any way to test sound using a no-GUI live usb ? |
| 22:58.04 | err404 | yes, you open terminal, and type alsamixer (if alsa is installed) |
| 22:58.37 | srged | err404: ok I boot up the live usb and be right back |
| 22:58.48 | err404 | see you soon :p |
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| 23:02.13 | srged | back |
| 23:02.34 | srged | err404: what did u say to type in the terminal in order to test sound? |
| 23:03.06 | err404 | ok, alsamixer is for adjusting level |
| 23:03.38 | srged | so I'll type 'alsamixer' eh? |
| 23:03.38 | err404 | you can push bits directly in your speaker with |
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| 23:04.06 | srged | remember I only have a terminal at hand. no X whatsoever |
| 23:05.14 | chalcedony | i have an AMD Phenom(tm) 8750 Triple-Core Processor - cat /proc/cpuinfo is showing two processors not three, is it supposed to be like that? |
| 23:05.55 | err404 | srged, yes, alsmixer show you only in text, not X |
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| 23:06.19 | srged | ok I will now ext irssi and try |
| 23:06.21 | srged | br |
| 23:06.59 | chalcedony | the reason i noticed, is my sound quit after the kittens unplugged my power supply while we were gone. i restarted my computer (debian squeeze), and ran updates |
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| 23:07.12 | srged | err404: it said command not found |
| 23:07.34 | srged | this live CD is the standard one. i guess it lacks many packages |
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| 23:07.43 | err404 | yes |
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| 23:08.57 | srged | err404: what do u suggest now |
| 23:09.05 | err404 | srged, can you paste your lspci (privately) |
| 23:09.32 | srged | on this live USB? i cant copy paste |
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| 23:09.51 | err404 | not in your live usb |
| 23:10.17 | srged | ok I exit the live usb and rejoin from main linux. see u soon |
| 23:10.23 | err404 | lspci list your material |
| 23:10.29 | err404 | ok |
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| 23:14.55 | srged | eristisk: http://paste.debian.net/103903 |
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| 23:15.00 | srged | err404: |
| 23:15.01 | chalcedony | this is actually a serious question, can anyone help? |
| 23:16.01 | err404 | did you have alsamixer (not gui)? in you main linux? |
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| 23:16.39 | dondelelcaro | chalcedony: hrm... you should be seeing three cores |
| 23:16.46 | srged | dont know. I installed and removed several times now. i dont know if it was there originally |
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| 23:16.59 | srged | probably not |
| 23:17.05 | chalcedony | dondelelcaro, is there anything with updating debian that could cause it not to see one core? |
| 23:17.10 | dondelelcaro | chalcedony: it's possible that someone broke the kernel in between your last reboot and now |
| 23:17.15 | ivanshmakov | … 3.2.54-2 is the Lear Hobin Rood™, for it takes from the poor and gives to the rich… |
| 23:17.42 | dondelelcaro | chalcedony: I'd guess a kernel bug could do it. It's possible that no one expected odd numbers of processors or something like that |
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| 23:18.05 | chalcedony | squeeze is depracated, so if i make a new drive/os - maybe everything will get fixed? |
| 23:18.31 | dondelelcaro | chalcedony: you might just try upgrading the kernel |
| 23:18.39 | dondelelcaro | chalcedony: or upgrading to wheezy. You don't need a new drive |
| 23:18.55 | chalcedony | it won't break stuff if i do that? |
| 23:18.56 | ivanshmakov | Isn’t Squeeze now LTS? |
| 23:19.01 | err404 | srged, I don't have more idea for you |
| 23:19.15 | chalcedony | squeeze is old now |
| 23:20.01 | srged | err404: okay man, thnaks for trying!! |
| 23:20.02 | dondelelcaro | ivanshmakov: it will have LTS, yes. |
| 23:20.18 | dondelelcaro | chalcedony: in theory, it won't. But people find bugs all the time |
| 23:20.33 | berarma | how can I run a program that goes to background with schroot so that it doesn't get killed? |
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| 23:21.03 | ivanshmakov | berarma: nohup(1)? |
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| 23:22.14 | berarma | ivanshmakov: "nohup schroot -c unstable /my/program/that/runs/in/background"? |
| 23:22.41 | chalcedony | dondelelcaro, the definition of a computer is 9 million things can go wrong. are there step-by-step directions that you'd recommend? |
| 23:23.27 | dondelelcaro | chalcedony: yes. The release notes. |
| 23:23.29 | dondelelcaro | !release notes |
| 23:23.29 | dpkg | Release notes for Debian 7 "Wheezy" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/releasenotes . See also <squeeze->wheezy>, <install guide>. |
| 23:23.38 | ivanshmakov | berarma: That, and a trailing ‘&’. |
| 23:23.58 | chalcedony | thank you so much! |
| 23:24.16 | berarma | ivanshmakov: the program is already forking to the background. I'll try |
| 23:24.38 | dondelelcaro | chalcedony: no problem; if you run into trouble, you can always ask here, too. Hopefully it'll "Just Work™" |
| 23:25.29 | chalcedony | haha i sure hope so! |
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| 23:26.09 | holycow | hi guys |
| 23:26.21 | holycow | i am having problems running cron.hourly scripts |
| 23:26.59 | berarma | it doesn't seem to work |
| 23:27.04 | Guest57584 | i made sure to: remove the .sh from the script, not have any temp files in that dir, use absolute paths for commands in the script. yet, somewhow, the script never seems to work |
| 23:27.27 | Guest57584 | are you having the same problem? |
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| 23:27.41 | berarma | I want something like (schroot -c unstable -- /bin/sh -c "service apache2 start") to work |
| 23:28.13 | Guest57584 | morover, /etc/crontab shows the hourly, daily, weekly jobs BUT crontab -e shows NOTHING in the crontab as root. |
| 23:28.23 | Guest57584 | i guess crontab -e would be root but anywhoo |
| 23:28.28 | Guest57584 | berarma: so you too? |
| 23:28.42 | berarma | holmgren, Guest5784: it has to be executable too |
| 23:28.50 | Guest57584 | i just found out you are supposed to use either absolute paths for commands, or, add the path to the top of your script |
| 23:28.52 | berarma | Guest57584: ^^^ |
| 23:28.56 | Guest57584 | oh wait |
| 23:29.06 | berarma | Guest57584: my problem is witch schroot |
| 23:29.38 | Guest57584 | huh. well file is +x indeed. |
| 23:30.21 | berarma | Guest57584: check cron is running and /etc/crontab is ok. Check syslog too |
| 23:31.04 | Guest57584 | hmm .. right. let me look. |
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