| 00:00.38 | dimitry7 | Nik05, so I don't need to worry on that part? |
| 00:00.59 | Nik05 | "box compromised"? no idea what that is |
| 00:01.13 | dimitry7 | Nik05, this server was hacked |
| 00:01.18 | Nik05 | ooh |
| 00:01.23 | dimitry7 | yes |
| 00:01.32 | abrotman | take it offline .. wtf |
| 00:01.33 | dimitry7 | that's why I wanted to do some forensics before reinstalling |
| 00:01.43 | dimitry7 | abrotman, yes it is offline |
| 00:01.48 | abrotman | take it offline, image the drives, reinstall |
| 00:01.50 | dimitry7 | I am just doing some forensics |
| 00:02.20 | dimitry7 | to learn more you know... |
| 00:02.59 | Nik05 | well rkhunter can probably give more information why it thinks it got compromised |
| 00:03.20 | dimitry7 | Nik05, really? how can I get that info? because the log doesn't reveal much |
| 00:05.11 | abrotman | image the drives .. |
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| 00:05.22 | abrotman | you shouldn't be messing with it until you have read-only images created |
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| 00:15.14 | dimitry7 | abrotman, read only image? for example with # dd ? |
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| 00:18.21 | geekatcomputers | Using apt-get, how do I have it ignore partially installed packages? |
| 00:18.34 | geekatcomputers | Like, if I am install ntp. |
| 00:18.38 | geekatcomputers | *installing |
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| 01:03.34 | Ahehz | Hi! Why is Debian "ruined" by UNetBootin when most other distros are just fine? :S |
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| 01:05.41 | temhaa | hi |
| 01:06.14 | temhaa | Im using this interfaces http://paste.debian.net/104884/ but when I networking restart doest start network |
| 01:06.33 | jmcnaught | Ahehz: i don't know for sure, but i think it has to do with how Debian images are "hybrids" that can be copied directly to a disk using dd or cp |
| 01:07.05 | Ahehz | jmcnaught: Hmm! |
| 01:07.12 | Ahehz | Can I use dd or cp in Windows? |
| 01:07.56 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell Ahehz about win32diskimager |
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| 01:08.30 | Ahehz | Thanks. |
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| 01:10.29 | bamb00 | hi all |
| 01:10.30 | bamb00 | good evening |
| 01:11.04 | jmcnaught | temhaa: i don't think you can define an address for eth0 if you're also using it in the "bridge_ports" for br0 |
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| 01:14.07 | temhaa | jmcnaught, how can I solve |
| 01:14.10 | bamb00 | im having trouble trying to mount this external hard drive... heres the error. http://pastebin.com/8Wg2F1gX |
| 01:14.31 | buu | bamb00: Did you read the error? |
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| 01:14.55 | jmcnaught | temhaa: it looks like you have a public IP on eth0, and then you want a bridge that is on a private IP range? Maybe you could describe what you're trying to accomplish |
| 01:15.28 | bamb00 | yes buu, I actually did read it, but it still doesn't make sense. and I wanted someone to explain it, ive been trying to google it and solve it myself; irc is my last resort. |
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| 01:16.00 | buu | bamb00: You need to be root |
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| 01:17.01 | bamb00 | buu: my first approach was to launch a root gui file explorer, but that didn't work because attached devices didn't appear in the left hand box. and i don't know much about mounting from cli. |
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| 01:17.30 | bamb00 | buu: maybe i just need to keep reading more. |
| 01:18.45 | temhaa | jmcnaught, I created lxc containers and I want to assign private ip to containers. Bu I should make local network with bridge. libvirt is works but why could not use bridge I dont understand |
| 01:18.47 | buu | bamb00: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdX /mount/location |
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| 01:19.00 | temhaa | jmcnaught, this is documentation https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/SimpleBridge |
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| 01:20.04 | jmcnaught | temhaa: you have libvirt installed? does it work if you use "lxc.network.link = virbr0" in the container's config? |
| 01:20.09 | bamb00 | buu: now, what do I use for the 'X'? Maybe gparted can answer that question. |
| 01:20.49 | bamb00 | buu: /dev/sdb1 |
| 01:20.50 | buu | bamb00: Um, yes, that might help. How many drives you have? |
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| 01:21.11 | temhaa | jmcnaught, yes its works. But I want create bridge interface and using that |
| 01:21.50 | bamb00 | buu: Well this is just a laptop, I only have one internal hard drive, but have an external hard drive connect. I want to move some files on there because I broke my Windows parition, and need to do a total reinstall. |
| 01:22.10 | buu | bamb00: Then sdb1 sounds very likely, what happens when you try mounting it? |
| 01:22.38 | bamb00 | buu: I am about to try, I got the sdb1 from gparted. |
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| 01:23.37 | bamb00 | buu: "fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mount/terra: No such file or directory |
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| 01:24.00 | bamb00 | buu: wait I did that wrong |
| 01:24.10 | buu | The mountpoint needs to exist beforehand |
| 01:24.13 | bamb00 | buu: I didn't specify location, I thought I choose that part, lol. |
| 01:24.21 | bamb00 | buu: yeah that was in gparted as well. |
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| 01:25.11 | jmcnaught | temhaa: why don't you just use virbr0? |
| 01:25.46 | bamb00 | buu: got it dude! the command totally works, thanks a lot. I really appreciate it. |
| 01:25.56 | temhaa | jmcnaught, just learning. I'm new system administrator and trying more cases |
| 01:26.33 | temhaa | jmcnaught, I can get your suggestions about sys admin |
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| 01:28.26 | srged | how can I see the temperatura of my CPU ? |
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| 01:28.45 | temhaa | srged, you can use sensors |
| 01:29.13 | srged | temhaa: whats the pkg name? |
| 01:29.30 | temhaa | srged, http://www.debian-administration.org/article/327/Monitoring_your_hardware%27s_temperature |
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| 01:30.25 | srged | temhaa: great, thx! |
| 01:30.35 | temhaa | srged, np |
| 01:31.01 | buu | bamb00: You're welcome |
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| 01:35.53 | srged | temhaa: http://paste.debian.net/104887/ |
| 01:36.00 | srged | is this the right temperature? |
| 01:37.34 | jmcnaught | temhaa: well i'm just a learner myself, but the interfaces file you pasted above looks like you're trying to have the containers be on the same network as the host. http://paste.debian.net/104888/ Here is a modified and commented copy of the interfaces file from my home server |
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| 01:39.34 | jmcnaught | temhaa: with it set up this way the host gets the IP defined in the br0 stanza, and guests are on the same network (so the guests are in the same network range as the host). This isn't what you want, but it's what the LXC/SimpleBridge wiki page is describing |
| 01:39.36 | temhaa | srged, Its show depending kernel modules |
| 01:40.43 | srged | temhaa: well. I copuldnt follow the full tutorial as I got this error |
| 01:40.44 | srged | user@linux:/dev$ sudo modprobe -a i2c-viapro i2c-isa eeprom w83627hf |
| 01:40.45 | srged | WARNING: Module i2c-isa not found. |
| 01:40.45 | srged | ERROR: could not insert 'w83627hf': No such device |
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| 01:43.38 | n-st | i can't chgrp anything to a certain group; i always get the error "chgrp: changing group of `foo': Invalid argument" |
| 01:43.43 | n-st | what could cause this? |
| 01:44.06 | jmcnaught | temhaa: you may also be interested in checking out /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default.xml to see how libvirt configures networks like virbr0 |
| 01:44.27 | temhaa | srged, http://hydra.geht.net/tino/howto/linux/fixes/w83627hf/ |
| 01:44.32 | jmcnaught | n-st: what's the command you use when you get that error? |
| 01:44.47 | n-st | jmcnaught: chgrp ssl-cert private |
| 01:44.53 | temhaa | jmcnaught, yes I used that |
| 01:45.04 | n-st | apparently, the error only occurs on a certain nfs mount |
| 01:45.07 | n-st | oh. |
| 01:45.32 | n-st | could the reason be that the nfs host probably doesn't have the group i'm trying to chgrp to? |
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| 01:45.51 | jmcnaught | n-st: that probably has something to do with it |
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| 01:47.43 | jmcnaught | temhaa: note the comments in my pasted interface file.. the guests get IPs on the same network as the host which is different than what you're trying to do. However the bottom of https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/SimpleBridge has instructions on "additional bridge device instead of..." |
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| 01:49.10 | temhaa | jmcnaught, ok |
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| 02:19.50 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 02:20.08 | ShapeShifter499 | when I boot up after a recent apt-get update I get " Linux (none) " |
| 02:20.10 | ShapeShifter499 | any ideas |
| 02:20.17 | ShapeShifter499 | this is on a server through ssh |
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| 02:33.50 | siignal | hi i am trying to get an ipv6 address to remain active after a reboot, but no matter what i add to my /etc/network/interfaces file they just don't work. seems i have to manually run the 'ip -6 addr add' and 'ip -6 add route add' commands every time i boot. is there any way around this? thx.. |
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| 02:36.15 | pol3425 | can anyone recommend a good mail server software for debian? |
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| 02:37.23 | Poultra | me |
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| 02:41.12 | vivivi | hola |
| 02:41.25 | Poultra | salut |
| 02:42.15 | vivivi | salut, vous parles espagnol? |
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| 02:42.45 | Poultra | non |
| 02:43.16 | vmiimu | On a clean debian wheezy I install mysql from dotdeb using apt-get and now when I service mysql restart I get "[....] Starting MySQL database server: mysqldNo directory, logging in with HOME=/ . ok " |
| 02:43.19 | Poultra | si segniora |
| 02:43.20 | vmiimu | Any sugesstions? |
| 02:43.39 | Poultra | me? |
| 02:43.59 | Poultra | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHUH8cP7p90 |
| 02:44.00 | zykotick9 | !tell vmiimu about dotdeb |
| 02:44.09 | Poultra | me gusta |
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| 02:44.20 | Poultra | france |
| 02:44.27 | Poultra | :p |
| 02:44.55 | Poultra | huum hum hum humm hum him |
| 02:45.01 | vmiimu | zykotick9 ? |
| 02:45.10 | Poultra | humm |
| 02:45.23 | Poultra | dj me |
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| 02:47.21 | vmiimu | zykotic9 thanks will post issue to github |
| 02:47.57 | Poultra | and me |
| 02:48.00 | Poultra | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHUH8cP7p90 |
| 02:48.48 | vivivi | que diferencias pueden haber entre archlinux y debian testing? |
| 02:49.03 | vivivi | en el tema de packages |
| 02:49.04 | zykotick9 | !es |
| 02:49.04 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 02:49.14 | vivivi | ok |
| 02:50.05 | vivivi | what is te difference beetwin archlinux and debian testintg |
| 02:50.08 | vivivi | ? |
| 02:50.24 | zykotick9 | vivivi: they are different distros... |
| 02:50.54 | vivivi | but, in debian have more packages? |
| 02:51.04 | vivivi | or arch? |
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| 02:52.35 | jmcnaught | vivivi: you'll probably get a less biased response in #linux, but Debian is obviously the best. However this is a support channel for Debian, asking for comparisons between distros is off-topic. If you need help with Debian we're happy to help. |
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| 02:53.37 | vivivi | ok |
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| 02:56.29 | vivivi | this is a debian channel but i think gnu users are impartial |
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| 03:06.28 | justanotheruser | Does anyone have a working google-chrome-unstable_current_amd64.deb? |
| 03:06.44 | justanotheruser | or a link to one |
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| 03:32.38 | danols_home | Can I run debian on the following cpu?: cpu model: MIPS 74Kc V4.12 |
| 03:33.00 | danols_home | I currently have openwrt on it but I know debian better |
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| 03:34.25 | _FBi | danols_home, in your openwrt wat does uname -a say? |
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| 03:36.26 | _FBi | disregard. I thought OpenWRT was Debian |
| 03:37.40 | danols_home | Linux wifi.danols.com 3.10.32 #1 Fri Mar 7 23:43:33 UTC 2014 mips GNU/Linux |
| 03:37.51 | danols_home | ok |
| 03:38.20 | danols_home | I've been googling for a few days - just need someone with more know to share their thoughts |
| 03:38.26 | danols_home | there is debwrt |
| 03:38.34 | danols_home | and embeded debian |
| 03:38.39 | danols_home | and debian mips |
| 03:38.52 | _FBi | all I would say, if it's running linux at the moment. it can run Debian |
| 03:39.00 | _FBi | however, I have zero expectise |
| 03:39.57 | danols_home | ok thanks |
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| 03:42.56 | bwilson | hey peeps, using bash I want to generate a unix timestamp 8 hours in the future from the current time. ideas? |
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| 03:49.46 | jmcnaught | bwilson: date --date='now + 8 hours' |
| 03:51.04 | bwilson | thanks jmcnaught :) |
| 03:52.08 | jmcnaught | bwilson: no problem. i had to look it up myself :) |
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| 03:54.47 | jmcnaught | danols_home: i don't have any experience with MIPS myself, but i suspect you may be able to use debootstrap from within a shell in openwrt, something like this: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/mips/apds03.html.en |
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| 03:59.47 | linuxuz3r | whats a good app to monitor your system temperature and other system info |
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| 04:02.20 | jmcnaught | linuxuz3r: i use lm-sensors and this extension for gnome-shell: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/82/cpu-temperature-indicator/ but there are other frontends for the "sensors" command. "acpi -t" might also work without installing lm-sensors |
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| 04:10.03 | linuxuz3r | jmcnaught, oh im in gnome-classic |
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| 04:11.18 | darkblue_b | linuxuz3r: I use gkrellm with lm-sensors |
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| 04:20.42 | danols_home | jmcnaught: thank you but how will I know the cpu is supported ? |
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| 04:22.35 | linuxuz3r | ok thanks guys |
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| 04:30.58 | jmcnaught | danols_home: well presumably if it runs the openwrt linux kernel it would also run the debian linux kernel. but like i said i don't really have any experience with MIPS |
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| 06:06.30 | kleanchap | What do I need to install or activate to get the wifi network icon in the system tray for the Mate desktop? |
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| 06:11.27 | themill | kleanchap: my understanding is that mate is reusing all the gnome components like network-manager-gnome |
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| 06:13.42 | kleanchap | themill: Thanks. I will check it out. |
| 06:14.11 | themill | nm-applet is the binary |
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| 06:39.11 | justanotheruser | Anyone have a google-chrome-unstable_current_amd64.deb link? |
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| 06:49.15 | jmcnaught | justanotheruser: not sure what you mean by unstable, but http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel has links to "beta" and "dev" channels for linux |
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| 06:50.30 | formorer | chrome != chromium http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/beta.html |
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| 06:51.08 | jmcnaught | formorer: the links on that page are for downloading chrome, i know the difference |
| 06:51.30 | formorer | ah indeed. sorry. |
| 06:51.35 | formorer | too early |
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| 06:52.24 | jmcnaught | justanotheruser: i found that with google. i'm not a chrome user so i don't know if they work or not, and i generally don't install stuff from outside the repositories without a very good reason. good luck! |
| 06:52.42 | Wulf | justanotheruser: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/google_chrome/stable/main/base/google-chrome-unstable |
| 06:54.51 | justanotheruser | jmcnaught: thanks |
| 06:54.54 | justanotheruser | Wulf: thanks |
| 06:55.02 | justanotheruser | I just need the libpdf.so from it :) |
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| 06:56.41 | mfp | hi all |
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| 06:57.25 | mfp | which nvidia driver do i need for a geforce 210? i'm left without X for now |
| 06:58.49 | mfp | how do i find the right proprietary driver for the card? |
| 06:58.56 | Wulf | mfp: is there more than one? |
| 06:59.39 | Wulf | mfp: try nvidia-driver |
| 06:59.55 | Wulf | or "Look at the legacy packages for older cards" |
| 06:59.56 | mfp | it seems there are 4 nvidia drivers besides nouveau. i have installed nvidia-driver and i had no success |
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| 07:00.47 | mfp | do i need to blacklist nouveau after having installed the proprietary driver? |
| 07:00.57 | gerforce | hello, i am a newbie. The System always prompts "E: Unable to locate package". I find answers by google, but it did not solve the problem. I want to know why? |
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| 07:02.45 | mfp | gerforce: which command did you use? |
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| 07:03.20 | gerforce | sudo apt-get install packagename |
| 07:03.40 | jmcnaught | mfp: according to the wiki page the "nvidia-detect" package should tell you which driver is required |
| 07:04.00 | mfp | jmcnaught: awesome. thank you very much |
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| 07:04.16 | jmcnaught | mfp: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for more info |
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| 07:05.17 | jmcnaught | gerforce: which package are you trying to install? you can search for packages with this command: "apt-cache search foo", or use this site: https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 07:09.44 | gerforce | jmcnaught: i want to install ntpdate package because i have two systems on my computer. There is a time sycronization problem. But i have found i couldnot install any packages |
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| 07:12.13 | dima5 | Can an ftp master help with an upload, please? I got a REJECTED response saying that 'tcpflow_1.4.4+repack1-3_amd64.changes is already known'. What does this mean? The archive does not have -3 in it, only -2. |
| 07:12.25 | jmcnaught | gerforce: can you put a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.debian.net ? That package should definitely be there. Also you might want to use "ntp" instead of "ntpdate" |
| 07:13.03 | dima5 | Oh. Sent that to the wrong channel. Never mind and sorry. :) |
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| 07:23.00 | gerforce | jmcnaught: i have just made the copy. |
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| 07:23.53 | jmcnaught | gerforce: what's the link? |
| 07:24.27 | gerforce | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/104901 |
| 07:24.50 | gerforce | jmcnaught: sorry this is the first time using it |
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| 07:25.17 | jmcnaught | gerforce: no worries... you're missing some lines. Right now you only have the security repositories |
| 07:25.30 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell gerforce about wheezy sources.list |
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| 07:25.48 | jmcnaught | gerforce: check the message from the dpkg bot |
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| 07:26.53 | gerforce | jmcnaught: thanks very much! i'll look into it. |
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| 07:34.44 | chalcedony | i'm having a problem, when i tell the computer to boot to the debian 1 cd.. it's booting to the old os in the drive and i can SEE the cd but it's not booting to it |
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| 07:35.35 | chalcedony | i really don't want ubuntu. |
| 07:35.38 | chalcedony | i want debian |
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| 07:36.27 | OpenTokix | chalcedony: you have to select the cdrom-drive to boot from - either by pressing "boot menu" when it shows up when you boot during bios. - Or change to cdrom as first boot option in bios |
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| 07:37.01 | chalcedony | i think i did.. maybe i need to do more |
| 07:37.09 | chalcedony | OpenTokix, ty for your reply |
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| 07:37.42 | chalcedony | press f2 for setup, boot order, and select cd/dvd drive, and click f10 to save |
| 07:37.49 | chalcedony | but it isn't booting to it |
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| 07:38.24 | Wulf | cdrom? dvd? what's that? |
| 07:38.37 | Wulf | I install all my machines through network |
| 07:39.02 | chalcedony | Wulf, umm ok? |
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| 07:39.15 | Wulf | found it to be less troublesome |
| 07:39.18 | KnowledgeisPower | If have tried following a few random tutorials to teach myself things, and I wanted to check what my current version of GTK is because I'm afraid I may have altered something I shouldn't have, How would I go about doing this?( New To Linux) |
| 07:39.21 | chalcedony | i'm sure it might be |
| 07:39.41 | OpenTokix | chalcedony: sounds like you did it right, however - some bioses ask "Do you want to save yes/no" and have no selected, or some bioses say: "Exit without saving yes/no and have yes selected" |
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| 07:40.11 | chalcedony | OpenTokix, ill give it another shot, it seemed not to remember but i did click |
| 07:40.12 | OpenTokix | Wulf: how is this helping him at all? - I install all machines thru pxe, preseeded with automatic configuration managment |
| 07:40.13 | chalcedony | i think |
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| 07:40.27 | chalcedony | her, grandmother |
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| 07:40.40 | jmcnaught | KnowledgeisPower: you can use "apt-cache policy <package name>" to see the version of a package that's installed, and use "apt-cache search foo" to search for package names |
| 07:41.16 | jmcnaught | KnowledgeisPower: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian also has some general advice for new users on not breaking your system |
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| 07:41.49 | gerforce | jmcnaught: problem solved! : ） |
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| 07:44.31 | KnowledgeisPower | so by package name, you mean..? apt-cache policy gtk...? |
| 07:45.12 | KnowledgeisPower | I'm assuming not, but in Linux-Toddler-Terms |
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| 07:46.05 | jmcnaught | KnowledgeisPower: apt-cache search gtk" |
| 07:46.10 | themill | KnowledgeisPower: gtk isn't just a single package. «aptitude versions ~nlibgtk~i» may be useful |
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| 07:49.46 | KnowledgeisPower | so I can have multiple versions of GTK installed? |
| 07:50.13 | themill | not really |
| 07:50.28 | Aiena | Hi I setup a debian distro as a test server on virtualbox I want to make it run headless and only ssh to it from the host how do I make it headless ? |
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| 07:51.14 | themill | Aiena: is your question actually, "how do I get virtualbox to run the VM headless"? |
| 07:51.42 | Aiena | hmm can viortualbox run headless |
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| 07:51.50 | Aiena | I guess I want the server to start only at init3 |
| 07:52.06 | Aiena | so that I can ssh to it and it saves resources because of no X etc. |
| 07:52.10 | Aiena | like a regular server |
| 07:52.19 | themill | Aiena: debian doesn't distinguish between runlevels. If you don't want X, don't install it. |
| 07:52.52 | KnowledgeisPower | themill: lol so if I see something like Package libgtk2.0-0: and Package libgtk3.0-0: thats probably not a good thing? |
| 07:52.56 | Aiena | ok so how do I convert it into a tty server ? I currently have the xfce version in debian |
| 07:53.12 | jmcnaught | KnowledgeisPower: GTK is broken up into multiple packages. And actually you can have GTK 2 and GTK 3 installed at the same time, just not multiple copies of GTK 3 for example |
| 07:53.30 | Aiena | KnowledgeisPower yes that should not be a problem having both together |
| 07:53.49 | Aiena | sometimes you need both. E.g. PyQT4 and PyQT5 |
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| 07:54.18 | Aiena | as long as you use the appropriate development libraries when building and set up things correctly there should be no issue. |
| 07:54.25 | Aiena | assuming your buiding |
| 07:54.28 | Aiena | building |
| 07:54.56 | KnowledgeisPower | I have so much learning to do |
| 07:55.18 | KnowledgeisPower | I'm basically a poin and click user, navigating directories and reading up on ebooks |
| 07:55.28 | KnowledgeisPower | point* and click |
| 07:55.50 | KnowledgeisPower | I'm talking like 3 days old on linux |
| 07:56.11 | KnowledgeisPower | I'm getting around the terminal ok on basics but anything past that is like, whoaaa |
| 07:56.18 | jmcnaught | KnowledgeisPower: if there is a conflict between versions then apt-get/aptitude/synaptic will ask what you want to do. If you try to install something and it says it's going to remove stuff, look up the stuff it wants to remove beforing proceeding |
| 07:56.27 | chalcedony | KnowledgeisPower, good on you, go for it! |
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| 07:56.50 | jmcnaught | heh.. beforing. it's time for bed. goodnight! |
| 07:58.28 | KnowledgeisPower | thank you all, still pretty confusing but the tips help, I start by navigating it like I would a windows-box, creating files, looking around, adding things.... changing themes. |
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| 07:58.47 | KnowledgeisPower | then when I run into issues I research them and try to learn about them for a better understanding |
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| 07:59.11 | KnowledgeisPower | Just beginning to read about soft and hard linking. |
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| 07:59.46 | chalcedony | partitioning method.. whats LVM? |
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| 08:01.06 | dutchfish | !lvm |
| 08:01.09 | dpkg | [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 08:01.38 | petionet | hello. i have a problem with my SVN permissions. when I use "sudo svn update *" there is no problem, but without sudo i get this "svn: E200031: sqlite[S8]: attempt to write a readonly database" |
| 08:01.49 | petionet | i tried to change the permissions for rep-cache.db to even 777 and still get this error |
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| 08:03.08 | dutchfish | petionet, fix the permissions db/rep-cache.db file in the subversion repository for that user |
| 08:03.23 | petionet | i already set them to 777 and chown to that user |
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| 08:03.35 | dutchfish | petionet, rem the user that runs the svn instance |
| 08:04.03 | petionet | first I checkout that folder from root |
| 08:04.11 | petionet | then i tried to update this folder from other user |
| 08:04.44 | dutchfish | petionet, have looked at the uuid of the db directory? |
| 08:04.54 | petionet | no |
| 08:05.35 | petionet | i have to delete files in the folder or just change the perm of the folder |
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| 08:06.10 | dutchfish | petionet, the uuid of the db dir must also meet the creteria for the user that runs the svn instance |
| 08:06.16 | chalcedony | dutchfish, i've always done separate /home etc. but i think i've always done custom, too .. to make a separate partition for the OS, theoretically making it easier to replace, later. is it worth it? |
| 08:06.56 | petionet | it's dav module from http |
| 08:07.04 | petionet | i put my user into http group |
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| 08:07.24 | dutchfish | chalcedony, it depends, if you are just doing a single workstation setup, go by the defualts, but if you have special needs consider lvm, like when setting up a host for virtualisation, or run multiples of instances of linux |
| 08:08.01 | dutchfish | chalcedony, lvm is also a great way, to have flexibility to grow and shrink partitions in the future |
| 08:08.13 | dutchfish | chalcedony, if you dont need that all, go by the defaults |
| 08:08.16 | chalcedony | dutchfish, i read that and said 'yes' |
| 08:08.36 | dutchfish | chalcedony, then reda the factoid's links how to set it up |
| 08:08.38 | chalcedony | but then it asked partitioning schemes |
| 08:09.00 | dutchfish | chalcedony, yes, you need to have a strict plan before you actually execute it |
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| 08:09.42 | chalcedony | dutchfish, i dreaded doing this |
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| 08:12.02 | petionet | dutchfish, what you mean of "meet the creteria for the user that runs the svn instance"? I think httpd runs the SVN instance? |
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| 08:12.56 | dutchfish | petionet, as an intro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion |
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| 08:14.49 | dutchfish | petionet, also https://wiki.debian.org/SmallSVNTutorial |
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| 08:18.13 | dutchfish | chalcedony, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ |
| 08:19.54 | Aiena | KnowledgeisPower hmm well give it some time and do learn the terminal it is incredible and worth it initially it will be hard but rewards come in later :) |
| 08:20.55 | KnowledgeisPower | I'mtrying my best, I do pwer through my attention issues when possible, but my will is strong so I try my best |
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| 08:21.31 | KnowledgeisPower | Sorry, for the insane amount of typos, it's pretty late here. |
| 08:21.33 | Aiena | KnowledgeisPower linux is incredibly flexible and easy to mess with the more problems you encounter the better you will become |
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| 08:21.47 | Aiena | so don't shy away from them try new stuff :) |
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| 08:22.35 | KnowledgeisPower | That's why I stopped by asking about gtk, I wanted to change my gtk theme, and other themes in general, followed some random tutorials to see what did what and thought I may have installed multiple gtks |
| 08:22.36 | KnowledgeisPower | haha |
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| 08:26.39 | Nebukadneza | heho |
| 08:27.01 | format_c | hgeho |
| 08:27.49 | Aiena | what is the best way to remove X and xfce so that debian starts from plain command prompt |
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| 08:29.04 | Aiena | KnowledgeisPower all is good untill something goes broke. The big difference is that you can attempt a lot of repairs and learn a lot before reformatting root on windows you'd just reformat windows if something went seriously wrong :P |
| 08:29.12 | abrotman | wtf ... |
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| 08:29.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Aiena about nodm |
| 08:29.27 | Aiena | KnowledgeisPower all is good untill something goes broke. The big difference is that you can attempt a lot of repairs and learn a lot before reformatting root but on windows you'd just reformat windows if something went seriously wrong :P |
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| 08:29.59 | abrotman | bah .. that looked like useless spam .. |
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| 08:30.27 | abrotman | Aiena: apologies, it will disappear in a moment |
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| 08:30.42 | karooga | Hi, I need some help with packaging (specifically chromium) is this the right channel? |
| 08:31.07 | abrotman | karooga: chromium is already packaged |
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| 08:32.16 | KnowledgeisPower | That's my favorite part, in just the few days that i've been using I've run accross a few people trying to detour me to settling for something like, (Just an example) add this random theme, when my initial question to them was about a specific one. I do not want to have to settle, I want to understand why it is what I seek is not working/ or will not work and either fix it or full grasp the conept of why it is that whatever it |
| 08:32.28 | KnowledgeisPower | if that made any sense, half asleep here. |
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| 08:33.58 | nkuttler | KnowledgeisPower: this is a support channel. please take it private or #debian-offtopic |
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| 08:35.08 | karooga | abrotman: Yes, I know but I want to package the latest stable version of chrome for ARM. |
| 08:36.20 | abrotman | karooga: might benefit you to contact the maintainer and see if he'd be willing to help you |
| 08:36.23 | abrotman | They might help you make it official |
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| 08:41.48 | karooga | abrotman: Thanks for the advise, I will try that route. |
| 08:42.26 | abrotman | karooga: or might tell you why it is very difficult |
| 08:42.43 | Aiena | thanks a lot abrotman it works perfectly now ran consumption is only 110mb and that hack safely disabled dm with keeping the option to reenable it later |
| 08:42.48 | karooga | abrotman: Is pkg-chromium-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org the correct contact address? Seems somewhat generic. |
| 08:42.49 | Aiena | *RAM |
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| 08:43.04 | abrotman | karooga: if that's what the package says .. yes |
| 08:43.53 | karooga | abrotman: Yeah, I'm under no illusion that there will be pain. Spent last two days doing cross compile using google non-std tools and it isn't even packaged. :-/ |
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| 08:47.51 | dtk | Hello guys! Can someone of you explain me 'Running "/usr/sbin/elilo" failed with error code "1"' ? I mean what does the code mean?? |
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| 08:51.08 | dutchfish | dtk, i dont know your specifics, but i fund this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685186 |
| 08:51.25 | dutchfish | dtk, also see the patch |
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| 08:54.39 | dutchfish | dtk, likely the culprit can be found in debian/elilo.sh |
| 08:54.48 | sveta | https://pastee.org/nrwf9 is the full issue, mosh isn't getting through properly.. how do i sort it out please? |
| 08:54.49 | dutchfish | (installtime) |
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| 08:55.54 | sveta | (i've also asked at #ubuntu and they're looking into it, but it more likely is a server issue, and server is on debian.. laptop is on ubuntu) |
| 08:56.54 | dtk | dutchfish: I saw that before asking here. Well, the installer (according to /var/log/syslog ) installed elilo with the fixed bug (elilo 3.14-2) |
| 08:57.36 | dutchfish | dtk, sure, the fix is already implemented, but you might have a simular issue, hence i pasted those links |
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| 08:59.20 | dutchfish | dtk, what debian and what arch? |
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| 08:59.57 | dtk | dutchfish: 7.5 ia64 :) |
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| 09:01.17 | dutchfish | dtk, mm.. could be that the former patch was not conclusive or there is some problem lurking deeper inside, i havent an IA64 to test atm |
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| 09:01.51 | dutchfish | dtk, if you really want to solve this one, my best bet is to ask the maintainer |
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| 09:02.30 | dutchfish | dtk, or/and make a bug report |
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| 09:04.05 | dutchfish | pheww |
| 09:04.29 | dtk | dutchfish: ooook |
| 09:05.55 | dtk | dutchfish: omfg |
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| 09:06.28 | dtk | dutchfish: i just needed to umount my boot partition to go forward ... |
| 09:07.15 | gerforce | i install debian on VM. The hwclock --show command shows the time 3:00 for example, but the date shows the time 15:00. My time zone is Asia/Shanghai UTC+08 |
| 09:07.31 | gerforce | I have no idea about it |
| 09:08.09 | sveta | hello? https://pastee.org/k8ze5 and https://pastee.org/nrwf9 , server is debian and client is ubuntu, how do i make the server stop thinking of US locales please? |
| 09:08.56 | dutchfish | dtk, even if thats the case, elilo.sh should be more resilient also see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=elilo (testing/sid) or delve into the source |
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| 09:10.35 | dutchfish | dtk, or more descriptive, error 1 isn't particular heplfull |
| 09:10.49 | uwjesq | Hello, how can I remove sendmail-mta? I removed all the packages with sendmail in their name but when I connect to port 25 by telnet sendmail still greets me. |
| 09:11.44 | Nik05 | and who greets you? |
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| 09:12.58 | Nik05 | aptitude show mail-transport-agent |
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| 09:13.26 | ikonia | sveta: dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 09:13.43 | uwjesq | Nik05: I think I gut it. I purged sendmail and then I searched for the process and killed it and now exim says hello. |
| 09:13.50 | sveta | ikonia, on server? I already did this and ticked only the AU locale, unticked the US locale. It does not help. |
| 09:14.04 | ikonia | sveta: yeah, on the server |
| 09:14.13 | sveta | That's what I did. |
| 09:14.13 | ikonia | sveta: look in /etc/profile and see if there is anything overriding it |
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| 09:14.47 | abrotman | might have to restart the daemon ? |
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| 09:15.33 | sveta | ow! it is my stupidity again, I have bashrc lines implicitly setting couple locale variables to US locale .... |
| 09:15.40 | ikonia | :) |
| 09:15.40 | Nik05 | sveta you need to install the en_US.utf-8 and en_AU.utf-8 locale |
| 09:15.52 | sveta | I only need the latter really :) |
| 09:16.00 | ikonia | I think we have a winner |
| 09:16.01 | Nik05 | LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 09:16.13 | sveta | yes, that is a wrong line :) |
| 09:17.54 | sveta | I don't understand why after uncommenting these lines, re-logging in, and running ``dpkg-reconfigure locales'', the ``locale'' output still has the US locale in some places |
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| 09:18.57 | sveta | mosh-server keeps complaining about this when I run it (although it does work) :) |
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| 09:22.12 | Nik05 | sveta dont you need to run update-locale? |
| 09:23.09 | sveta | Nik05, thanks. update-locale helped against all variables but one: LANGUAGE=en_US:en |
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| 09:24.26 | Nik05 | update-locale LANGUAGE=en_AU.UTF-8 |
| 09:24.33 | hell | hello, how i can debug systemd-logind, there is no active sessions in my case, debian, init-v, systemd-logind started, gdm, awesome |
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| 09:25.04 | Nik05 | hell wheezy? |
| 09:25.22 | hell | sid |
| 09:25.34 | Nik05 | -> #debian-next on OFTC |
| 09:25.42 | hell | tnx |
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| 09:26.30 | dutchfish | hell, i could be wrong but you can enable grub in debug modus https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Debugging |
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| 09:28.02 | gerforce | hi,i install debian on VM. The hwclock --show command shows the time 3:00 for example, but the date shows the time 15:00. My time zone is Asia/Shanghai UTC+08. i have no idea about it. |
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| 09:47.16 | Sez | hi |
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| 09:52.53 | gerforce | ：） |
| 09:55.06 | dutchfish | gerforce, i assume the hwclock is not directly reachable on a host within a vm, it most likely gives you UTC and you setup the vm with the proper tzdata |
| 09:55.11 | dutchfish | !tzdata |
| 09:55.12 | dpkg | A time zone is the standard time (aka local time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata". Alternatively: "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime". Note that tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. Postfix users: execute "invoke-rc.d postfix restart" to update localtime in the chroot. |
| 09:55.22 | snadge | so how do i allocate an ipv6 address .. similar to an ip alias with ipv4.. eg.. eth0:1 |
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| 10:03.37 | gerforce | dutchfish: it must be the vm timezone that causes the problem. Thanks for reminding me! :) |
| 10:03.49 | dutchfish | gerforce, yw |
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| 10:08.09 | dutchfish | snadge, i delved into that the other day, becaus someone asked the same question. In short: you cant. This is intentional. The aliases were added because in IPv4 you could usually only have one IP address on an interface. The aliases were added to work around that. With IPv6 multiple addresses per interface are very normal so the aliases are not used anymore. |
| 10:09.21 | snadge | im looking into that now yes.. but i haven't found a way to add ipv6 address to my eth0 interface in /etc/network/interfaces yet |
| 10:09.23 | dutchfish | snadge, this is how to set it up properly as an example http://paste.debian.net/104915/ |
| 10:10.32 | dutchfish | snadge, there is more to it, like how your net is configured and your lan, but that is covered by most manuals |
| 10:11.27 | dutchfish | !ipv6 |
| 10:11.27 | dpkg | Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) is the next-generation IP version designed to replace IPv4. Available in Debian since <potato>, full IPv6 support was a release goal for Squeeze. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 http://ipv6.debian.net/ http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/ http://www.ipv6.org/ #debian-ipv6 on irc.oftc.net, #ipv6 on irc.freenode.net. To disable IPv6 on your system, ask me about <noipv6>. |
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| 11:12.08 | lgp171188 | I am trying to setup a dovecot router in debian exim and I am using the split configuration. How and where do I add the router? |
| 11:12.56 | lgp171188 | I tried adding it in the 900_exim4-config_local_user but "exim -bt user@mydomain.com" is untraceable even with correct domain and username in my case. |
| 11:13.01 | lgp171188 | Any idea what could be wrong? |
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| 11:29.05 | likevinyl | is back (gone 00:01:56) |
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| 11:30.21 | likevinyl | is away: negros con complejos de "negro" son negros de mierda. E1NS=ADOLFO REALES |
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| 11:34.53 | zengina | sexxxxxxxx |
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| 11:35.32 | leo-unglaub | hey, i found a horrible bug in systemd, is a dev around so i can describe it to him |
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| 11:37.29 | Metaleer | !ops likevinyl racist away script message in Spanish |
| 11:37.29 | dutchfish | leo-unglaub, i kindly ask you to file a bugreport to the maintainer of that package. That would be the correct way. |
| 11:37.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: metaleer complains about: likevinyl racist away script message in Spanish |
| 11:37.43 | likevinyl | ? |
| 11:37.47 | likevinyl | wtf |
| 11:37.50 | leo-unglaub | dutchfish: i dont have an account there |
| 11:37.58 | likevinyl | im nigger sucker |
| 11:37.59 | likevinyl | http://i.imgur.com/Oeoxsc6.png |
| 11:38.18 | dutchfish | leo-unglaub, you dont ned too have one. |
| 11:38.24 | likevinyl | debian guy it's me |
| 11:38.31 | likevinyl | im not racist :PO |
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| 11:39.06 | likevinyl | dpkg stop shitty talk |
| 11:39.07 | dpkg | no idea, likevinyl |
| 11:39.09 | likevinyl | ;) |
| 11:39.34 | dutchfish | leo-unglaub, https://wiki.debian.org/reportbug |
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| 11:40.05 | likevinyl | y si no te gusta mi mensaje, no seas botón y escribí en español |
| 11:40.07 | leo-unglaub | dutchfish: thanks, or should i go upstreamt to report it? |
| 11:40.13 | leo-unglaub | because it's a very nasty bug |
| 11:40.47 | likevinyl | no tengo tiempo para explicar. |
| 11:41.12 | likevinyl | si no sabés hablar español no digas estupideces. |
| 11:42.21 | dutchfish | leo-unglaub, depends on if the bug is related to upstream or packaging or both, normally your first report to the maintainer, so the distro is able to coop with it and if needed report it upstream |
| 11:42.33 | leo-unglaub | k, will do |
| 11:42.35 | leo-unglaub | thanks |
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| 11:42.44 | dutchfish | yw, and thank you too |
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| 11:46.11 | Almtesh | Hi! |
| 11:46.51 | dutchfish | !es |
| 11:46.52 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 11:48.47 | misugi | hi guys |
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| 11:49.53 | misugi | litte prob here. i manuelly removed conky from /usr/bin and from /etc |
| 11:50.31 | misugi | now, when i'm reinstalling it via apt or dpkg, its not executeable cause its not there |
| 11:50.35 | misugi | how to fix that? |
| 11:51.45 | dutchfish | misugi, aptitude reinstall [foo] where [foo] is the related package your bin was in |
| 11:52.33 | dutchfish | misugi, for your configuration file ask dpkg about confmiss |
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| 11:53.12 | dutchfish | mumbles mumbles also something about backups |
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| 11:54.23 | misugi | i backed up the conf. so thats no prob |
| 11:54.45 | misugi | aptitude tells me its installed now. but i cant use it |
| 11:54.56 | misugi | the bin file is missing in think |
| 11:55.04 | misugi | thats the problem |
| 11:55.22 | dutchfish | misugi, then aptitude purge [foo] && aptitude install [foo] | then replace th config files |
| 11:55.29 | misugi | no entries in /usr/bin and /etc |
| 11:55.53 | misugi | i tried it with purge too. not working |
| 11:56.54 | dutchfish | misugi, then try again with aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade | then rinse and repeat my former purge/reinstall line |
| 11:57.40 | dutchfish | misugi, i asuming you have a correctly configured debian stable system |
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| 11:58.18 | misugi | its a fresh updated kali linux |
| 11:58.25 | dutchfish | !kali |
| 11:58.25 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 11:58.49 | misugi | ok. sorry dude. |
| 11:58.57 | dutchfish | misugi, np, good luck |
| 11:59.07 | misugi | ty for ur time |
| 11:59.11 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 12:06.04 | Pimster | Is it normal that debian ships with rpcbind and nfs-common installed and running by default? thus leaving port 111 open? |
| 12:07.33 | slept | I bought a new logitec mouse with a very odd button mapping, some of the (physical) buttons are buttons some are keys ( one of them is the letter d) . Is there a (layout) file to adjust the mapping ? For example "Serial 40" should be button 2... |
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| 12:08.13 | Nik05 | rpcbind and nfs-common have standard priority, so if you install debian with taskell standard thingy stuff you will instaall that Pimster |
| 12:08.21 | dutchfish | Pimster, yes, rpcbind is needed by nfs-common, however on a minimal install both installed by default |
| 12:08.39 | dutchfish | err, not installed by default |
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| 12:09.02 | dutchfish | any other install rule, will install them by default |
| 12:09.28 | Pimster | dutchfish: I should be okay removing them then, as I don't use nfs right? |
| 12:09.41 | babilen | 13:45:43 jelly (Real Name) (~jelly@00012145.user.oftc.net) has joined #debian-ops |
| 12:09.44 | babilen | 17:58:26 [/] peter5 (~peter@wire.p12n.org)(Quit: leaving) |
| 12:09.45 | dutchfish | Pimster, yes, along with the depending packages however |
| 12:09.47 | babilen | 22:45:34 [/] jelly-home (~jelly@00012145.user.oftc.net)(Quit: Leaving) |
| 12:09.49 | babilen | < 14 Jun 2014 > |
| 12:09.49 | babilen | err |
| 12:09.57 | Nik05 | debian and priority is a little strange, no idea why they dont fix that stuff. A lot of libraries have standard priority and there are even transitional packages with standard priority |
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| 12:10.11 | Nik05 | hi babilen :) |
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| 12:10.20 | babilen | Hehe, what an entrance :) |
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| 12:10.44 | dutchfish | Pimster, and thats fine if you are after a tightly closed system |
| 12:10.52 | dutchfish | babilen, ;) |
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| 12:12.33 | dutchfish | Pimster, if you are really keen, and want to start with as less as possible, you could debootstrap a debian system and build up from scratch to even safe more space and build a tighter secure system |
| 12:12.33 | Nik05 | 2011 bug, nobody cares... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645437 |
| 12:13.20 | Pimster | dutchfish: maximum security is not really what I'm after, but I was trying to configure my wireless card to change channel, even if I had put it down. So since rpcbind was opening ports I wondered if it was it keeping busy |
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| 12:14.10 | dutchfish | Pimster, and even that can be blocked with the right firewalling if you prefer and still use it on your local lan |
| 12:14.27 | dutchfish | !iptables |
| 12:14.27 | dpkg | [iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables or ask me about <iptables-restore>. http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <ferm>, <lartc>, <masq>, <ulogd>. |
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| 12:14.54 | dutchfish | Pimster, but it depends on your needs |
| 12:15.10 | Pimster | thanks dutchfish |
| 12:15.14 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 12:18.37 | beluga | has Debian already joined this: http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/05/23/vals-semester-of-code-foss-projects-wanted/ |
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| 12:22.39 | misugi | dutchfish, i now know its not the right place here cause of another distro thing, but in #kali-linux is just a stupid guy who i telling me to reinstall the whole system. |
| 12:22.54 | misugi | maybe we can work on it inside of a query or something? |
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| 12:23.00 | misugi | held would be rly nice |
| 12:23.03 | misugi | *help |
| 12:23.07 | dutchfish | misugi, thats why i have chosen debian |
| 12:24.47 | dutchfish | misugi, or try again in that channel on a different time |
| 12:24.50 | sveta | debian is unique,it is an upstream for itself |
| 12:25.11 | sveta | many many other distros use eithr debian or a company as upstream |
| 12:25.37 | dutchfish | !whydebian |
| 12:25.38 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ http://www.aboutdebian.com/ . As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
| 12:25.51 | Nik05 | misugi there are probably more channels that want to help you |
| 12:25.59 | awer | Hi, I have a windows based webserver that i would like to place a debian wheezy box into a dmz between the public facing router and the internal webserver. I have created a vm on the windows webserver to do this and pointed the webserver to use the debian box as its default gateway and dns. by unhashing the ipv4 forwarding ption in the sysctl file i can ping out through the debian box but cannot resolve dns queries. My question is how can i transpa |
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| 12:26.15 | misugi | maybe |
| 12:26.40 | dutchfish | Nik05, it is not so much that i dont want too help, but i cant on a different distro |
| 12:26.59 | Nik05 | yeah i know dutchfish ;) |
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| 12:47.47 | awer | any able to help? |
| 12:48.02 | awer | Hi, I have a windows based webserver that i would like to place a debian wheezy box into a dmz between the public facing router and the internal webserver. I have created a vm on the windows webserver to do this and pointed the webserver to use the debian box as its default gateway and dns. by unhashing the ipv4 forwarding ption in the sysctl file i can ping out through the debian box but cannot resolve dns queries. My question is how can i transpa |
| 12:48.31 | dutchfish | awer, are you using the one from 2014-05-23 ? |
| 12:49.47 | dutchfish | awer, also check the hashes (this is the AMD64 one) http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/MD5SUMS |
| 12:49.53 | awer | sorry dutchfish i dont quite understand the question |
| 12:50.23 | dutchfish | sorry that all was ment for Anarch |
| 12:50.24 | awer | Linux website 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 12:50.34 | dutchfish | my mistake |
| 12:50.54 | awer | oh ok no problem |
| 12:51.46 | dutchfish | Anarch, are you using the one from 2014-05-23 ? |
| 12:51.49 | awer | i wa hoping i could simply use iptables to forward the dns requests through so that way i could monitor the traffic |
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| 12:58.45 | DrSect0r | Hi, I'm buzzy setting up a Debian mirror for my private use. I'm using the ftpsync.tar.gz package as described but don’t quite understand the following: Setup the .ssh/authorized_keys for the mirror user and place the public key of your upstream mirror into it. |
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| 13:05.15 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, have you read all about push mirroring? https://www.debian.org/mirror/push_mirroring |
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| 13:07.31 | DrSect0r | Dutchfish, I have done now, I think I don't need that. Thanks |
| 13:08.48 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, ok |
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| 13:12.31 | psymin | tips on getting netflix working on wheezy? :) |
| 13:13.03 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, if you just wanted a privat repo to deploy your own packages in your local lan, this might be an intresting read (based on reprepro) http://ianlawrence.info/random-stuff/setting-up-a-personal-debian-repository |
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| 13:16.45 | DrSect0r | dutchfish, thank you, will read up on that. thinking of it, the mirror way is quite old. i’m surprised that the way of mirroring servers is how it is. Is looks like an half-baked solution to me. |
| 13:18.01 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, i got the same impression at first glance, but it is actually quiet hard to improve it |
| 13:18.23 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, but not impossible |
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| 13:20.21 | DrSect0r | dutchfish, yeah, i know. i understand the problem with stage1 and 2. |
| 13:20.54 | DrSect0r | dutchfish, indeed, i hope it will be improved in the near future. |
| 13:21.11 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, a partial mirror with keen update shedules worked best for me |
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| 13:21.41 | DrSect0r | dutchfish, you have also an private mirror running? |
| 13:22.02 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, the smaller lan can do with apt-mirror |
| 13:22.09 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, yes |
| 13:22.58 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, even an caching proxy sometimes |
| 13:23.17 | DrSect0r | dutchfish, i tried with apt-mirror but there were problems with some files that needed to be rsyned after the apt-mirror script finished. |
| 13:23.45 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, yes, it needed some tweaking |
| 13:24.27 | DrSect0r | dutchfish, i hope i can get it together with rsync. |
| 13:24.37 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, for small setups a proxy cache is easiest to maintain |
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| 13:25.01 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, just do the gestimated bandwidth needs for all the setups |
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| 13:25.51 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, a full mirror is most of the time not worth the trouble |
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| 13:26.21 | dutchfish | my 2 cents |
| 13:26.39 | DrSect0r | dutchfish, i'm doing this for a school assessment, it will be used for a few hundred students. a full mirror is i think the way to go in this situation. |
| 13:26.48 | Peio | I need help with my wifi usb stick :( I messed up and i don't have wlan0 anymore when I do ifconfig, no idea why :( |
| 13:27.09 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, maybe, do the bandwidth math, and let that decide it |
| 13:27.34 | DrSect0r | dutchfish, thanks for the assistance so far! |
| 13:27.39 | dutchfish | DrSect0r, yw |
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| 13:34.22 | St0negate | Can anyone tell me how i can do a rysnc with a depth of max 15 subdirectories ? |
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| 13:40.48 | twoion | St0negate: there's a solution involving filter rules, but an easy method would be to use find's -maxdepth option and pass the list of found files to rsync: rsync $option $(find $source -maxdepth $depth) $target |
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| 13:41.55 | St0negate | twoion thanks. ill try that |
| 13:42.00 | twoion | St0negate: to handle filenames safely, you should also use -print0 with find and -0 for rsync |
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| 13:43.19 | St0negate | ok - so what would be a good command ? i´m totally lost i guess.. my current (not working command) is: rsync -vzrax --progress --max-size=50m --exclude-from '/test/exclude.txt' ssh . root@xxx.xxx.xxx:/test/backup |
| 13:44.11 | St0negate | i have a broken filesystem on that harddisk and i need to copy all "healthy" files.. not the ones that are suddenly 60 TB large and not the ones that link into an indefinetly depth |
| 13:44.41 | St0negate | however i cant risk a fsck on that drive |
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| 13:46.12 | ted20 | Hello, how to mount lvm volumes in debian live (yeah, i haven't browser). |
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| 13:47.42 | ompaul | ted20: apt-get install lynx2 |
| 13:48.35 | x86 | hello debian user :) |
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| 13:48.51 | ted20 | ompaul: ya, you are fuckin good helper. |
| 13:49.15 | ompaul | ted20: you know the abuse you give, well that was in anticipation of it ;-) have a nice day |
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| 13:50.41 | twoion | St0negate: if the file system is broken, a) mount the fs read only or better b) duplicate the fs using dd or similar and mount the resulting copy as a loop back device |
| 13:51.16 | ted20 | ompaul: btw links2 is sucks, better solution w3m |
| 13:52.26 | St0negate | twoion: thats what i did already.. now i want to rsync all files onto another server but i have some indefinate depth files and some that are very very (not normally) large.. so i need to tell rsync "please only sync files that from the first (lets say) 10-15 subdirectories" |
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| 13:52.35 | twoion | St0negate: rsync -vzrax0 --progress --max-size=50m --exclude-from /teset/exclude.txt $(find . -maxdepth 15 -print0) root@etc.etc:/etc |
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| 13:53.58 | twoion | ted20: sudo apt-get install lvm2 ; sudo service lvm2 start; sudo vgchange -ay $volumegroup ; sudo mount /dev/$volumegroup/$logicalvolume |
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| 13:54.51 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 13:57.14 | ted20 | twoion: btw, i've lvm volume with encryption. It was created in debian installer, so probably dmcrypt + lvm. |
| 13:57.18 | St1gate | sorry twoion my connection dropped :o |
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| 14:03.33 | twoion | ted20: sudo crypsetup luksOpen $disk $cryptdiskname before doing the lvm stuff |
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| 14:04.12 | twoion | St0negate: sorry I hid all part/join messages, I'll re-post my suggestion from above |
| 14:04.35 | St0negate | not needed.. i got it before i got kicked |
| 14:05.10 | St0negate | i already entered that command but nothing happens.. just have a blinking cursor since 3 minutes.. is that normal ? |
| 14:06.04 | twoion | St0negate: maybe take off the -print0 and -0? |
| 14:06.20 | twoion | St0negate: if this works, we'll use another approach |
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| 14:31.38 | twoion | !ops robusa: soccer spam |
| 14:31.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: twoion complains about: robusa: soccer spam |
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| 14:53.27 | ted20 | How to mount device with lvm + encryption? |
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| 14:53.58 | rudi_s | ted20: cryptsetup + lvm + mount |
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| 14:56.28 | Stonegate | any confixx specialists in here ? |
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| 14:57.25 | ted20 | rudi_s: I see in manual (cryptsetup) only create, remove, status, resize. I'm not sure, at the moment. |
| 14:59.10 | rudi_s | ted20: cryptsetup luksOpen + vgchange -ay (detect LVM devices) + mount |
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| 15:10.50 | ted20 | #mount /dev/dm-0 /mnt/device. mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'. I don't know... |
| 15:11.46 | rudi_s | ted20: Don't mount the lvm device, mount the devices it provides (the partitions). |
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| 15:14.01 | ted20 | rudi_s: Ahh, you're right! It's /dev/mapper/. Generally, sometime I should umount it, so umount + (?)? |
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| 15:29.45 | rudi_s | ted20: Yes. Just umount /path/to/where/you/mounted/it/ |
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| 15:30.56 | ted20 | rudi_s: Okay, that's good, thx for help |
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| 15:31.43 | rudi_s | np |
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| 15:44.55 | Alex______ | Hello |
| 15:45.05 | Alex______ | How add packages.debian.org in repos? |
| 15:45.18 | cockroach | hi there. silly question, if i may: other than reduced write-performance and (obviously) losing lots of space, is there a compelling reason not to have a RAID1 setup using two partitions on the same harddrive? |
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| 15:45.49 | Alex______ | FRIENDS HELP PLEASE! |
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| 15:50.54 | yokisho | Alex______, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:51.15 | yokisho | you can take a look at this file |
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| 15:54.04 | rudi_s | cockroach: RAID on the same drive doesn't make any sense. |
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| 15:55.00 | rudi_s | RAID (except RAID0) should reduce the risk of disk failures from damaging your data. If your single disk fails, then all your data is lost. |
| 15:55.09 | cockroach | rudi_s: well, depends. i just lost a drive and parts of it are no longer accessible (i/o errors). i would assume that if i had a RAID1 on that drive then the odds of being able to recover my files would be a bit higher |
| 15:55.29 | Coweater | you wouldn't be able to tell which was the good data |
| 15:55.51 | cockroach | that is indeed a good point. i would assume that the good data would be the stuff that doesn't cause i/o errors. |
| 15:56.17 | cockroach | but then, it coule of course still be broken |
| 15:56.20 | cockroach | could* |
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| 15:56.59 | mitchreward | hi guys, no sound in my new debian 7.5 install. and nothing related in dmesg log |
| 15:57.05 | mitchreward | where should I look? |
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| 15:57.17 | rudi_s | cockroach: Just use a second disk and use RAID on both disks. |
| 15:57.39 | frostschutz | cockroach, performance is a compelling reason. it will cut your drive speed considerably |
| 15:57.58 | Coweater | zfs or btrfs and proper backups are better suited for dealing with that problem |
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| 15:58.00 | cockroach | rudi_s: indeed, that's what i do when i'm sane and, more importantly, it's a proper pc. in this case it's a laptop though, no space for a second disk |
| 15:58.35 | cockroach | frostschutz: aye |
| 15:58.39 | frostschutz | cockroach, make backups, that's more important |
| 15:58.45 | frostschutz | you need them with raid too |
| 15:58.48 | rudi_s | cockroach: Then just use the disk as is without a RAID and use backups. |
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| 15:58.56 | Alex______ | W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.5.0 _Wheezy_ - Official Multi-architecture amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20140426-14:13]/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs |
| 15:58.59 | Alex______ | how fix |
| 15:59.00 | rudi_s | And remeber, RAIDs are no substitute for backups anyway. |
| 15:59.04 | Alex______ | ? |
| 15:59.32 | rudi_s | Coweater: I wouldn't use btrfs for critical data yet (and it looks like it was quite a few issues). And zfs on linux is another issue. |
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| 15:59.52 | rudi_s | Alex______: Disable the entry by adding a # in front of it and add a web mirror. |
| 16:00.14 | cockroach | of course you guys are right and i do have backups of the important data. |
| 16:00.52 | rudi_s | cockroach: Then there's no reason to change anything. |
| 16:00.55 | Alex______ | W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/non-free i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 16:01.05 | cockroach | however, re-installing and fine-tuning the system whenever a disk fails is a bit of a PITA. guess i should just include xfsdumps of the root fs in my backups... :) |
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| 16:01.22 | rudi_s | Alex______: Read the error mesage!? |
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| 16:02.33 | Alex______ | there are main non-free and non-free main |
| 16:02.39 | Ollieb | I am new to linux and i am trying to install debian i have 200gb of space can someone tell me if these partitions should be good for: / = 400mb, /usr = 9gb /var=3gb, swap= 16gb, tmp = 400mb adn / home = 185gb |
| 16:02.41 | Alex______ | its one repo? |
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| 16:03.32 | Alex______ | now good |
| 16:04.12 | cockroach | Ollieb: personally i would probably make / a bit larger and depending on what you're going to do /tmp might also be a bit small, generally it looks okay though. |
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| 16:04.32 | mfp | Ollieb: /usr/seems also a bit small and swap way too large |
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| 16:04.52 | cockroach | Ollieb: ah, and i don't use swap these days |
| 16:04.54 | yokisho | Alex______, insert the dvd :P |
| 16:05.05 | rudi_s | Ollieb: I'd just use / for everything. |
| 16:05.06 | Alex______ | now good |
| 16:05.14 | Alex______ | but problem in synaptic |
| 16:05.15 | mitchreward | hi guys, no sound in my new debian 7.5 install. and nothing related in dmesg log |
| 16:05.19 | Alex______ | red marks why?> |
| 16:05.26 | mitchreward | have an idea? |
| 16:05.27 | Alex______ | why red and no green? |
| 16:05.51 | cockroach | mfp: /usr with 9g seems reasonable to me... |
| 16:05.57 | rudi_s | Ollieb: With just 200 GiB separate partitions will just cause problems if you don't divede them up "correctly". |
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| 16:06.02 | mfp | Ollieb: /=4GB, /usr=15GB, /var=10GB, /tmp=4GB, swap~=4GB |
| 16:06.26 | rudi_s | /tmp as tmpfs, then you don't waste disk space. |
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| 16:06.58 | Otyugh | ,v smpalyer |
| 16:06.59 | judd | No package named 'smpalyer' was found in i386. |
| 16:07.00 | Alex______ | "fix broken packages first" |
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| 16:07.33 | cockroach | Ollieb: you could of course use LVM, that way you can just assing very little space to the partitions for now and enlarge them when needed. in case you feel adventurous : |
| 16:07.37 | cockroach | :) |
| 16:08.39 | Ollieb | I will mainly be using the OS for web dev stuff so if i use these partitions /=4GB, /usr=15GB, /var=10GB, /tmp=4GB, swap~=4GB + rest for home should i be good? |
| 16:09.00 | cockroach | Ollieb: looks good to me. |
| 16:09.04 | rudi_s | Ollieb: Again, why do you want to divide it up anyway? |
| 16:09.21 | Otyugh | hey there. I'm no a debian user ; is there a tuto (or something more official) about just install a package from jessie when using wheezy ? It's really just for 2-3 apps functionnality, not more. |
| 16:09.31 | Ollieb | are there any benifits to dividing partitions up btw |
| 16:09.45 | rudi_s | !tell Otyugh about ssb |
| 16:10.17 | rudi_s | Ollieb: There are. It prevents issues when one partitions gets full. |
| 16:10.17 | Otyugh | rudi_s: sid seem a bit foolish to me. Right ? |
| 16:10.18 | mitchreward | do you guys know a simple wifi manager in xfce4 (dont want to use network manager) I prefer deal with the config files |
| 16:10.26 | rudi_s | Otyugh: Did you read it? |
| 16:10.55 | Ollieb | right thanks for all your help guys |
| 16:10.58 | Otyugh | I've read soooo much stuff bad about sid, and why I should never install anything from it on my own productive machine :o |
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| 16:11.11 | Alex______ | Friends help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/7644610/ |
| 16:11.14 | Peio | need help setting up the network on the debian pc in this pic: http://imgur.com/x2NYs7P when I set up both interfaces, one of them doesn't work |
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| 16:11.31 | rudi_s | Otyugh: Mabye you read the factoid again ... |
| 16:11.32 | cockroach | mitchreward: have you tried wicd? |
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| 16:11.47 | mitchreward | cockroach, am gonna check what is wicd |
| 16:11.48 | Otyugh | rudi_s: http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 16:11.56 | mitchreward | cockroach, thanks |
| 16:12.00 | cockroach | mitchreward: you're welcome |
| 16:12.00 | rudi_s | Otyugh: "Mabye you read the factoid again ..." ... |
| 16:12.20 | Alex______ | what do? |
| 16:12.21 | rudi_s | You won't install anything from sid, you'll just backport it for wheezy. |
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| 16:12.32 | rudi_s | And most packages in jessy are the same as in sid anyway. |
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| 16:13.37 | Otyugh | rudi_s: well. Ok. Thanks x) |
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| 16:14.42 | rudi_s | np |
| 16:14.49 | rudi_s | Otyugh: And try backports first. |
| 16:14.50 | Alex______ | HEY WTF? E: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-96xx |
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| 16:15.39 | Alex______ | how run repos problem autofixer? |
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| 16:20.23 | mfp | Alex______: are you installing the nvidia proprietary driver? |
| 16:20.42 | Alex______ | yes |
| 16:21.01 | mfp | Alex______: do you know which driver you need? |
| 16:21.12 | Alex______ | 96 legacy |
| 16:21.19 | yokisho | Pei, maybe must be differents ips |
| 16:22.19 | mfp | Alex______: that's the package you need to install: nvidia-legacy-96xx-driver |
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| 16:23.07 | mfp | Alex______: do you know that you need to edit your xorg.conf after this? |
| 16:23.32 | Alex______ | i now try |
| 16:23.37 | yokisho | because are differents devices |
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| 16:24.17 | yokisho | connect router to switch |
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| 16:24.33 | yokisho | and use eth always |
| 16:24.47 | Alex______ | E: Unable to locate package nvidia-legacy-96xx-driver |
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| 16:25.16 | mfp | Alex______: have you done "aptitude update" first? |
| 16:25.27 | Alex______ | update what? |
| 16:25.35 | mfp | apt-get update |
| 16:25.53 | Alex______ | there are all good |
| 16:25.57 | Alex______ | apt-get update |
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| 16:27.10 | mfp | Alex______: then make: "apt-cache search nvidia" and find the correct driver |
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| 16:28.48 | yokisho | oops, it was for Peio |
| 16:28.52 | Alex______ | there are many |
| 16:29.06 | Alex______ | bad bug debian :((( |
| 16:29.26 | mfp | Alex______: pick the one that says 96xx-driver |
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| 16:32.56 | Alex______ | libgl1-nvidia-legacy-96xx-glx - NVIDIA binary OpenGL libraries (96xx legacy version) nvidia-alternative-legacy-96xx - allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx - NVIDIA metapackage (96xx legacy version) nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-dkms - NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source (96xx legacy version) nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-source - NVIDIA binary kernel module source (96xx legacy version) xserver-xorg-vide |
| 16:33.25 | Alex______ | metapackege need? |
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| 16:34.33 | martines | metapackage is always the simpliest way |
| 16:34.38 | Alex______ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7644720/ |
| 16:34.42 | Alex______ | BUG |
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| 16:35.51 | mfp | hehe |
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| 16:36.00 | mfp | Alex______: install that one: nvidia-alternative-legacy-96xx |
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| 16:41.44 | mfp | Alex______: have a look at this nice howto: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 16:42.14 | mfp | Alex______: don't forget to read the section about configuring your xorg.conf |
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| 16:47.21 | Alex______ | The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: nvidia-alternative-legacy-96xx : Depends: glx-alternative-nvidia (>= 0.2) but it is not installable Depends: libgl1-nvidia-alternatives (>= 275.09.07-4) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libglx-nvidia-alternatives (>= 275.09.07-4) but it is not |
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| 16:52.14 | Alex______ | What do? |
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| 16:52.45 | Alex______ | its bug ? how sent to admins? |
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| 17:22.03 | bluestreak0 | I'm looking to install debian on a desktop workstation that needs to be reasonably up to date, but doesn't need constant maintainance. Testing or unstable? Or another distro altogether? |
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| 17:22.50 | lakcaj | why not just use wheezy? |
| 17:22.53 | bluestreak0 | Stable is out of the question (drivers) |
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| 17:24.41 | zykotick9 | bluestreak0: A) Up to Date or B) Low Maintainance choose one. fyi, backports offers updated kernel (aka driver support). |
| 17:25.51 | bluestreak0 | well, it's really an up to date version of nouveau I need, the one in wheezy makes my graphics go funky, and nvidia constantly crashes the pc. |
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| 17:26.48 | bluestreak0 | but is the nouveau built into the kernel? or is it a seperate package? |
| 17:27.24 | zykotick9 | bluestreak0: i "believe" that's an updated xorg+nouveau issue, so backports probably doesn't help (maybe, but i doubt it) |
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| 17:27.52 | bluestreak0 | no, but thanks anyway |
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| 17:28.55 | lakcaj | xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so |
| 17:29.04 | centrx | bluestreak0, You could try the closed-source nvidia-driver |
| 17:29.33 | bluestreak0 | yeah, i have, it crashes my pc, have to hard reboot each time |
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| 17:30.09 | lakcaj | bluestreak0, http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/InstallNouveau/#recompilation |
| 17:30.21 | lakcaj | you can compile nouveau from source against your current kernel |
| 17:30.34 | bluestreak0 | ok i'll look into that. cheers |
| 17:30.35 | lakcaj | according to the docs, never done it myself |
| 17:31.54 | shifty | i recall there was a simple method to create a .deb instead of /usr/local/... anyone recall the name? |
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| 17:32.17 | kamintears | hiya all |
| 17:33.10 | shifty | sorry - instead of using "make install" which leaves files scattered through /usr/local |
| 17:33.16 | lakcaj | shifty, checkinstall |
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| 17:33.49 | kamintears | i want to install the glade interface designer for gtk+2 but i see only one package 'glade' is for gtk+3 |
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| 17:34.19 | kamintears | if i remember correctly there used to be packages like glade-2 and glade-3 |
| 17:35.05 | shifty | lakcaj: thanks. |
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| 17:35.39 | shifty | wasn't there a method that uses fakeroot at some point? |
| 17:35.50 | newtonix | Hi, I recently installed Debian and my laptop seems to have lost the ability to connect to wifi. It does not see it at all even though I can connect through my phone just fine. |
| 17:35.53 | newtonix | What do I do> |
| 17:36.14 | newtonix | I've been googling hard all day and haven't found a solution. |
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| 17:36.55 | babilen | newtonix: What is your wireless adaptor? (you can run "lspci -nn|grep -i network" to show us) |
| 17:37.02 | newtonix | ok 1 sec |
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| 17:37.22 | newtonix | babilen 07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4365] (rev 01) |
| 17:37.39 | babilen | dpkg: BCM43142 |
| 17:37.39 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM43142 is a hybrid 802.11n and Bluetooth 4.0 device. Its wireless LAN component (PCI ID 14e4:4365, incorrectly identified as BCM4365 by Broadcom's proprietary driver) is currently only supported by Broadcom's proprietary driver since version 6.30.223.126 (packaged in Debian <testing> as broadcom-sta). |
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| 17:39.00 | babilen | newtonix: Okay, that is a bit of a pain as you require software that is not in Debian stable, but in a development release. Let's see if you can backport it (make it available/usable on wheezy) |
| 17:39.12 | newtonix | Okay |
| 17:39.20 | babilen | dpkg: tell newtonix -about ssb |
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| 17:39.50 | babilen | judd: v broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 17:39.51 | judd | Package: broadcom-sta-dkms on i386 -- wheezy/non-free: 5.100.82.112-8; jessie/non-free: 6.30.223.141-1; sid/non-free: 6.30.223.141-1 |
| 17:41.11 | babilen | newtonix: You can try to backport that ^^^ package yourself by following the instructions the bot sent you. It *might* not compile cleanly against the kernel in wheezy and you might therefore have to install a backported kernel from wheezy-backports too. See <bdo kernel>, <backports> and <wheezy-backports> for further information. |
| 17:41.56 | babilen | newtonix: It is, naturally, also an option for you to upgrade to testing right away which is probably easier right now, but would mean that you are no longer running/tracking a stable release, but a constantly changing development branch. |
| 17:42.20 | newtonix | If I do that will I have wifi right away? |
| 17:42.22 | babilen | newtonix: Other distributions (such as Ubuntu) might have that broadcom-sta version in one of their stable releases already |
| 17:42.57 | babilen | newtonix: My understanding is that, once you install the broadcom-sta-dkms version in testing, you will have wifi. |
| 17:43.15 | babilen | dpkg: tell newtonix -about testing |
| 17:43.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell newtonix -about wheezy->jessie |
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| 17:43.46 | newtonix | babilen: I downloaded this http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php |
| 17:43.54 | newtonix | I get that I need to compile it, right |
| 17:45.20 | babilen | newtonix: That would simply mean that you don't use the Debian packages, but some source package provided by broadcom. Compiling that manually is essentially the equivalent of backporting the version from testing/unstable with the difference that it is not that nicely integrated (e.g. won't be automatically recompiled if you install a new kernel) |
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| 17:46.17 | babilen | But yes, that is the driver in question and it has been packaged in Debian in the broadcom-sta-dkms package. The problem is simply that the version in *wheezy* is too old for your card and that you need a new one. I would recommend to try the steps in <ssb> and to see how that goes. |
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| 17:47.28 | babilen | I mean if the downloaded vanilla driver compiles against your kernel and on your system then you can just as well build the Debian package and get all the nice things DKMS (cf. <dkms>) offers. But it is your system and you can, naturally, do whatever you want. |
| 17:47.55 | newtonix | I did make and make install |
| 17:48.24 | babilen | Why don't you try the backport route? It should be easier and is actually supported by us :) |
| 17:48.44 | newtonix | Ive been working on it all day <_> |
| 17:48.50 | babilen | dpkg: ssb |
| 17:48.51 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 17:49.12 | sandman13 | babilen: how stable are packages in backports? |
| 17:50.29 | babilen | This is what I am referring to ^^^ You would use a /etc/apt/sources.list such as http://paste.debian.net/104983/ and run "apt-get update". That configures backports and you can then follow the rest of those instructions. |
| 17:51.30 | babilen | sandman13: "stable" in Debian simply means "not changing", so the answer to your question is "not at all". If you mean "bug free and working perfectly" then it really depends, but they are typically in a reasonably good shape. (definitely better than some fresh-of-the-press manually built upstream release) |
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| 17:52.36 | sandman13 | babilen: okay is it suggested to dist-upgrade from backports? Are there any risks or disaster that may follow? |
| 17:52.40 | babilen | Whu did newtonix leave? |
| 17:52.56 | floyin | :q |
| 17:53.04 | floyin | oops, I'm not in vim. |
| 17:53.27 | sandman13 | :D |
| 17:53.31 | babilen | sandman13: You should only install a few selected packages from backports as the backports->new_release upgrade path is not tested as frequently. |
| 17:53.53 | sandman13 | babilen: hmm okay thanks |
| 17:54.00 | sandman13 | :) |
| 17:54.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell sandman13 about backports caveat |
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| 17:59.28 | kamintears | does anybody know what package has glade-2 ? |
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| 18:00.09 | kamintears | i'm on debian 7.5 |
| 18:00.45 | mtn | kamintears: http://packages.debian.org |
| 18:00.46 | babilen | judd: v glade |
| 18:00.47 | judd | Package: glade on i386 -- squeeze: 3.6.7-1+b1; wheezy: 3.12.1-1; jessie: 3.18.3-1; sid: 3.18.3-1 |
| 18:01.00 | babilen | kamintears: Are you referring to the library? |
| 18:01.10 | babilen | judd: v libglade2-0 |
| 18:01.11 | judd | Package: libglade2-0 on i386 -- squeeze: 1:2.6.4-1; wheezy: 1:2.6.4-1; jessie: 1:2.6.4-2; sid: 1:2.6.4-2 |
| 18:01.23 | babilen | dpkg: tell kamintears -about search |
| 18:01.25 | kamintears | i want the gui designer program, actually |
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| 18:01.50 | babilen | kamintears: Isn't glade 2 horribly outdated? |
| 18:02.29 | kamintears | normally i would choose glade 3, but i use a webkitgtk control that only works with gtk+ 2 |
| 18:02.32 | OldParr | a 16 GB usb stick can be particioned as fat 32 ? |
| 18:03.10 | kamintears | so yea, its outdated :o) |
| 18:03.24 | babilen | kamintears: Well, the version of glade in wheezy is 3.12.1 |
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| 18:03.53 | mtn | OldParr: yes, but file size will be limited |
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| 18:04.36 | kamintears | glade 2 currently at 3.8 |
| 18:05.41 | kamintears | i tried compiling manually from the original site, but that didnt end wel :] |
| 18:05.55 | kamintears | i'll just edit that glade file on another machine then |
| 18:06.37 | babilen | kamintears: It is not packaged in wheezy. You can use an older Debian release (in a VM or chroot or ..) such as squeeze which comes with 3.6.7 or you could update your code to work with 3.12. |
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| 18:13.09 | gr8 | when I am trying to open a downloaded video file with VLC, it complains: "VLC does not support the audio or video format "h264". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this." |
| 18:13.19 | gr8 | first question: orly? I thought it does |
| 18:13.37 | gr8 | second: which other program do you recommend for watching h264 videos? |
| 18:13.38 | OldParr | mtn: can you tell me what heppened here?, i tried to partiton a flash drive as fat32 but it gave me this error http://paste.debian.net/104984/ after that i had to partition the flash drive as ntfs because i could not as fat 32 |
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| 18:14.48 | ompaul | gr8: does this help https://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs |
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| 18:15.28 | mtn | OldParr: sorry, not sure. have you tried using gparted? and, partitioning and formatting are two different things. first you make the partition and then you format it. |
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| 18:16.24 | OldParr | mtn: the size of the disk is not limited in fat32 ? |
| 18:17.01 | gr8 | ompaul: erm... not really |
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| 18:17.09 | mtn | OldParr: as far as I know, that size should be fine. |
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| 18:18.01 | mtn | OldParr: in fact, I have one like it which was fat32 in the beginning. |
| 18:18.28 | OldParr | mtn: do you use ntfs in your flash drive ? |
| 18:18.33 | mtn | OldParr: since I only use linux it is not formatted as ext4 |
| 18:18.38 | mtn | not/now |
| 18:19.46 | OldParr | can you make a bootable stick like this: cp mini.iso /dev/sdb ? |
| 18:20.25 | mtn | OldParr: with the right iso, sure. that would work with the debian installer, but not a lot of others would do it |
| 18:20.36 | OldParr | the problem with my flash drive began whrn i used this command cp mini.iso /dev/sdb |
| 18:20.52 | mtn | OldParr: try using gparted? |
| 18:21.25 | OldParr | after that it can not be longer formatted as fat32, yes i use gparted --allways-- |
| 18:21.54 | ompaul | gr8: so if you download and have the codecs installed and then open your vlc you'd be surprised what you can play |
| 18:22.23 | mtn | OldParr: how about a screenshot of gparted showing the flash drive? paste it to imgur.com |
| 18:22.42 | OldParr | can cp mini.iso /dev/sdb damage a flash drive ? |
| 18:22.46 | gr8 | ompaul: download what? I have the x264 package installed, and VLC complains. |
| 18:22.53 | mtn | OldParr: I don't see how it could |
| 18:23.06 | OldParr | mtn: wait , i will |
| 18:23.23 | ompaul | gr8: so that is a different problem |
| 18:23.53 | babilen | OldParr: Why did you copy the mini.iso to the usb stick on not the "normal" images? |
| 18:23.53 | ompaul | gr8: I'm watching a sample of a h264 |
| 18:24.20 | ompaul | gr8: in vlc - so question one what version of debian and kernel and what / where did you get your codecs from |
| 18:24.52 | ompaul | and where did you get your vlc from |
| 18:25.28 | gr8 | ompaul: ok then it could be some security kernel patches I installed lately ... if this is not a standard "problem", I'll investigate a little deeper |
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| 18:26.03 | ompaul | gr8: codecs are never standard go look at your settings have fun |
| 18:27.40 | OldParr | babilen: i like mini.iso because it downloads faster |
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| 18:29.15 | OldParr | mtn: babilen: http://www.nubila.com.ve/s1.png that is my flash drive now i had to format it as ntfs |
| 18:30.55 | mtn | OldParr: so it works ok now? I got the impression you thought it was broken or something. |
| 18:31.20 | OldParr | mtn: the problem is when i partion and format as fat32 |
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| 18:31.59 | deoxy | does anyone use teamspeak here? |
| 18:32.18 | mtn | OldParr: if it works with ntfs I don't see how the flash drive could be damaged. |
| 18:32.46 | OldParr | mtn: it works finely as ntfs |
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| 18:37.20 | shingouz | is there a way to install firefox add-ons globally or do i really have to install them separately for three users on the box? |
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| 18:39.51 | jmcnaught | shingouz: there are several addons in the debian repositories.. try searching for "xul-ext" |
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| 18:40.30 | gr8 | ompaul: the x264 library is buggy. not my problem then, I'll watch a different movie ;) |
| 18:40.33 | shingouz | there are? i didn't even think to look there. thanks jmcnaught |
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| 18:41.15 | shingouz | wow. |
| 18:41.54 | OldParr | is mini.iso a bad option for a flash drive ? |
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| 18:44.39 | grieg | hello. xfce shows the correct mousepointer only on some windows(iceweasel for one) on desktop, thunar and panels it shows the default one. anyone had this issue? |
| 18:45.20 | sveta | yes, you have to relogin and figure out where to put the mouse for it to get processed properly |
| 18:45.30 | sveta | probably over the splash screen of xfce, then it'll be normal |
| 18:45.36 | sveta | i don't remember |
| 18:45.42 | sveta | should be filed as a bug somewhere too |
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| 18:47.14 | grieg | sry, but what do you mean "figure out where to put the mouse"? |
| 18:47.35 | grieg | atm it is in ~/.icons |
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| 18:50.42 | babilen | OldParr: I don't think it is bootable, so you would have to come up with the boot config yourself. This is documented in the install guide <ig> -- /msg dpkg ig |
| 18:50.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell OldParr -about hybrid images |
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| 18:53.27 | format_c | grieg, I can remember that I had this issue too. |
| 18:53.36 | format_c | Let me remember how to fix that. |
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| 18:55.01 | grieg | would be cool. every xfce that i install has this issue |
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| 18:56.36 | OldParr | babilen: i am going to download an hybrid image |
| 18:56.37 | format_c | If u try to select the cursor theme through the XCFE settings dialog, do you see the name of the theme listed? |
| 18:57.02 | grieg | yes |
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| 19:00.20 | OldParr | babilen: i can only find hybrid images big in size smallest is 900 MB is not there any small ? |
| 19:00.52 | OldParr | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ |
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| 19:03.51 | format_c | grieg, test the following |
| 19:04.02 | format_c | cd ~/.icons |
| 19:04.19 | format_c | ln -s YourFavoriteTheme default |
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| 19:11.40 | grieg | format_c, no luck, same issue |
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| 19:11.53 | SurfCat | how would one take the output of a 'dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt' and use that list to populate the required packages in a newly created .deb? |
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| 19:16.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell OldParr -about firmware image |
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| 19:16.16 | babilen | OldParr: That one contains firmware and is 150MB |
| 19:16.35 | format_c | grieg, have you tried putting them in /usr/share/icons and maybe do the same symlink there |
| 19:16.40 | babilen | OldParr: Oh, you are looking for live image and not somthing to install Debian? |
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| 19:16.51 | OldParr | no, install |
| 19:16.56 | OldParr | i neeed install |
| 19:17.11 | babilen | OldParr: Then don't use the live image. Do you have a working internet connection during the installation? |
| 19:17.29 | OldParr | i have internet during installation |
| 19:17.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell OldParr -about usb install |
| 19:17.50 | babilen | OldParr: I'd use the firmware netinstall image then |
| 19:18.29 | OldParr | is non-free ? |
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| 19:21.12 | babilen | OldParr: That particular image contains non-free firmware, yes. If you don't need firmware then use the normal free netinst image. |
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| 19:26.05 | grieg | format_c, it worked. thank you very much - you are my hero! ) |
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| 19:32.07 | format_c | grieg, great |
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| 19:40.44 | ted20 | Ehh... My debian is a broken... "Loading please wait, Volume group "group" not found, skipping volume group group, unable to find LVM volume group/one, please unlock disk /dev/sda1: Usage cryptsetup (...)". I've no idea :( |
| 19:40.48 | SurfCat | how do i edit debian/control file so that the various dependancies are installed when I install my .deb package? |
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| 19:41.43 | ted20 | Leoneof: hey |
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| 19:42.33 | mtn | ted20: new install or old install? did it work before? what did you do before it broke? etc. etc. |
| 19:42.42 | babilen | SurfCat: Ask in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net please. This is, however, documented in the new maintainer's guide and the policy |
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| 19:43.34 | yottanami | Is any remote desktop sharing client/server software with music sharing support on debian ?? |
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| 19:44.03 | ted20 | mtn: generally, it's effect from my "downgrade". Yeah, it worked before. |
| 19:44.05 | yottanami | I mean voice remote ability |
| 19:44.14 | ted20 | mtn: probably logs know all |
| 19:44.29 | mtn | ted20: I imagine you were told downgrades are not supported. |
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| 19:45.04 | ted20 | mtn: exactly. I know why... |
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| 19:49.48 | nacctem | hi |
| 19:50.03 | nacctem | I want learn making deb package |
| 19:50.10 | nacctem | how can I start? |
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| 19:51.44 | babilen | nacctem: Please read http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers |
| 19:52.07 | nze | is it possible to use the internal speakers of my laptop as a different channel (for skype) than the aux jack (for music) ? |
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| 19:55.05 | codekK | hi, someone can help? i dont know but when im trying set permissions with acl i get this error: setfacl: Option -m: Invalid argument near character 6 (command from symfony docs: sudo setfacl -R -m u:"$HTTPDUSER":rwX -m u:`whoami`:rwX app/cache app/logs) |
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| 19:55.42 | babilen | nze: Probably. You might want to ask in #pulseaudio if you can configure the output sink per-application. |
| 19:55.56 | chalcedony | i have a brand new installation of debian wheezy. i need vim! when i tried apt-get install, it says i need another debian cd.. is there a way around that, or what to do? |
| 19:56.21 | babilen | chalcedony: Are you online? |
| 19:56.40 | chalcedony | babilen, yes |
| 19:57.13 | babilen | chalcedony: Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list and use http://paste.debian.net/105002/ -- run "apt-get update" and install vim :) |
| 19:57.41 | formorer | and remove everything that looks like a cd entry |
| 19:57.55 | ted20 | Hmm... My logs in less are very unreadable, simply i want see all removed packages by apt, from yesterday... |
| 19:58.33 | babilen | ted20: /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 19:59.00 | ted20 | babilen: I'm in history.log |
| 19:59.30 | ted20 | babilen: and I've 800x600 resolution. |
| 19:59.44 | babilen | okay |
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| 20:00.55 | ted20 | babilen: do you have any idea? |
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| 20:01.39 | babilen | ted20: Get a higher resolution‽ |
| 20:02.17 | ted20 | no way, I haven't drivers. |
| 20:02.21 | chalcedony | babilen, THANK YOU |
| 20:02.47 | babilen | ted20: Then sort that out. You could boot a live CD and chroot from there ... but then, stop breaking your system! ;) |
| 20:03.19 | ted20 | babilen: I'm in chroot, and i'm working on liveusb. |
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| 20:16.59 | magnulu | I have trouble running tmuxinator on an almost fresh wheezy install, here's the output: http://paste.debian.net/105003/ |
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| 20:17.29 | magnulu | tmuxinator 0.6.8, tmux 1.9a (also tried with the packaged version, same result) |
| 20:17.34 | magnulu | any suggestions? |
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| 20:24.07 | krasimir | hi all , trying to install drivers that support aircrack-ng for ALFA AWUS036NHA Atheros AR9271 usb wifi card. I installed the drivers form backport , but the card is not detected. If I install the drivers with apt-get install firmware-atheros the card is detected , but no packet injection is allowed. |
| 20:24.26 | krasimir | could you let me know how to troubleshoot why the bckport drivers don't work ? |
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| 20:26.41 | chalcedony | in nano how do you save your changes and exit or is that ctrl x ? |
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| 20:27.46 | mtn | chalcedony: ctrl x is what I use |
| 20:27.49 | magnulu | chalcedony: ctrl-x :) |
| 20:27.57 | chalcedony | thanks :) |
| 20:28.10 | babilen | chalcedony: it shows you at the bottom ctrl-o is "save" |
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| 20:28.19 | babilen | ^O |
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| 20:29.03 | chalcedony | heh |
| 20:30.17 | babilen | chalcedony: If you have unsaved changes nano will ask you if you want to write them (when you exit with ctrl-x). Sensible and expected behaviour |
| 20:30.37 | chalcedony | rats. Do you want to continue [Y/N] y.. "Media Change: please insert the disc labeled .." |
| 20:30.54 | chalcedony | babilen, it did, i said yes |
| 20:31.13 | mtn | chalcedony: did you do update first? |
| 20:31.46 | chalcedony | heh. |
| 20:31.54 | chalcedony | no ty mtn :) |
| 20:31.57 | babilen | chalcedony: You *are* using exactly the sources.list I pasted and ran "apt-get update" as I indicated earlier? |
| 20:34.10 | chalcedony | there, it's updating |
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| 20:44.18 | babilen | chalcedony: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html discusses the sources.list in more detail |
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| 20:57.32 | chalcedony | babilen, i did. this time i did, corrected the duplicate security lines, too. it's still asking for a cd |
| 20:57.47 | babilen | chalcedony: Duplicate security line? |
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| 20:58.22 | mett_ | hi |
| 20:58.38 | lnxslck | hello |
| 20:58.42 | chalcedony | it already had those lines, so when i added yours. and ran the update, it told me about it |
| 20:59.05 | babilen | chalcedony: There is no duplicate line in http://paste.debian.net/105002/ -- I asked you to use *exactly* that. Nothing else. Not more, not less. |
| 20:59.39 | chalcedony | babilen, did you mean i was to delete what was there? |
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| 21:00.44 | babilen | chalcedony: yes (in particular the line with the CD) -- it is a complete sources.list for wheezy and http.debian.net is a metamirror that picks the "best" mirror for you automagically. So, just use it. |
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| 21:04.46 | chalcedony | babilen, i'm not sure where it's getting " Media change: please insert the disc labeled "Debian GNU/Linux 7.5.0 _Wheezy_" Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20140426-13:37" in the drive "/media/cdrom" and press enter |
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| 21:05.58 | Guest62065 | ciao |
| 21:06.09 | Guest62065 | !list |
| 21:06.09 | dpkg | guest62065: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 21:07.00 | Guest62065 | https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 21:07.13 | jmcnaught | chalcedony: babilen was trying to tell use to replace your sources.list with the one in his paste link, not to simply append it. If you don't want to be prompted to insert a CD, remove/comment out the lines for the CDs in sources.list. But the one that babilen provided is all you need |
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| 21:07.25 | babilen | chalcedony: Could you show me the output of "head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}" along with that of "apt-get update" and "apt-cache policy vim" on http://paste.debian.net please? |
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| 21:09.01 | Guest62065 | ciao |
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| 21:09.18 | chalcedony | babilen, i'll try |
| 21:09.34 | mett_ | how much RAM is needed for debian + apache + mysql + php |
| 21:09.36 | mett_ | ? |
| 21:10.03 | babilen | Guest62065: No illegal software or content here. |
| 21:10.46 | babilen | mett_: Impossible to answer |
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| 21:11.30 | mett_ | babilen that bad. i need to know this to know which VPS plan buy |
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| 21:11.38 | reactormonk_ | so wheezy is the current stable version? |
| 21:11.58 | ctmjr | reactormonk_: yes |
| 21:12.12 | babilen | mett_: It simply depends on to many variable (e.g. database size, php code you are running, ...) -- Can't you go with something small(ish) and then get more if you need it? |
| 21:12.25 | babilen | *variables |
| 21:12.31 | mett_ | babilen lets say it will be small database and simple php code |
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| 21:13.21 | Tekcap | Could someone please provide the command to change my time format to 12 hour, instead of 24? I only have access through SSH, so it must be a konsole command. |
| 21:13.22 | babilen | mett_: A gigabyte might be fine, 768M too, but I really can't answer that. You will have to see run the system and see. |
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| 21:13.43 | babilen | Tekcap: Timeformat where? |
| 21:13.51 | mett_ | babilen thats a lot. i was expecting 256/512 |
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| 21:14.21 | babilen | mett_: Well, then try that. 256M is definitely stretching it, but it might fly with 512M |
| 21:14.24 | Tekcap | The entire system is running in 24 hour format and I can't stand reading the time that way. |
| 21:14.35 | babilen | Tekcap: Read it where? |
| 21:14.49 | Tekcap | My logs for one. Auth.log |
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| 21:15.40 | Tekcap | The timestamps are in 24 hour format and when I type time it shows me 18 o clock instead of 4pm |
| 21:15.58 | babilen | That can't be .. it should be 16:00 |
| 21:16.20 | Tekcap | Yea, my bad. That's why I want to change it so badly heh |
| 21:16.41 | babilen | Either way, I am not aware of a way to switch that globally for logs. You might want to try setting a locale that uses that time format as system default, but then you are probably already using that. |
| 21:17.28 | Tekcap | I'll delete the logs as long as in the future they show up in the new format |
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| 21:19.04 | Tekcap | Any idea what file the time settings are stored in? |
| 21:19.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell Tekcap about timezone |
| 21:19.34 | ted20 | How to set static dns in isc dhcp? config file doesn't work :/ |
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| 21:20.20 | babilen | Tekcap: Keep in mind that many different programs write logs and use a standard format for that. But sorry, I simply don't know it and you might want to ask in ##linux |
| 21:20.46 | ted20 | nobody knows? |
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| 21:20.52 | thorie_ | hi.. i installed another OS on a partition /dev/sda4 but it doesn't show up on my grub menu... only my previous linux. how can i make it appear? |
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| 21:21.24 | babilen | Tekcap: The time format is typically controlled by locales, so tinkering with that will change the date format in places that respect that, but I have absolutely no idea if any/all of the programs that log/manage logs honour that. |
| 21:21.45 | babilen | ted20: How do you configure your network? |
| 21:21.45 | ted20 | thorie_: chroot & update/install grub |
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| 21:22.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell thorie_ -about fixmbr |
| 21:22.28 | Tekcap | Babilen, thank you. I'll check the ssh setings and see if I can find the part about logs. |
| 21:22.32 | babilen | thorie_: If you are already in running "update-grub2" would be all you need. Which os is it? Is os-prober installed? |
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| 21:22.59 | ted20 | babilen: Very simple. DNS my ISP not always are fast, so usually I use custom, is it now clear? |
| 21:23.00 | thorie_ | current one is debian, new partition is ubuntu |
| 21:23.33 | babilen | Tekcap: Please, ask in ##linux. I simply don't know this and *never* wanted to do anything like that. I consider it an interesting question though and would appreciate further discussion. |
| 21:24.03 | babilen | ted20: No, not at all. How do you configure your network? Do you use network-manager? |
| 21:24.06 | thorie_ | babilen: i ran update-grub2, but the menu that comes up is GNU GRUB 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1 |
| 21:24.17 | ted20 | babilen: what? I haven't Xorg! |
| 21:24.20 | babilen | thorie_: And that is not correct? |
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| 21:24.34 | thorie_ | babilen: after rebooting, it still does not show the new Ubuntu partition |
| 21:24.38 | babilen | ted20: So you are *not* using NM then. How *do* you configure your network? |
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| 21:25.06 | babilen | thorie_: Which operating system/distribution do you want to use to manage the bootloader? |
| 21:25.20 | thorie_ | babilen: debian |
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| 21:25.41 | babilen | thorie_: Okay, run "update-grub2" (does that list ubuntu?) Which Debian version is this? |
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| 21:26.32 | thorie_ | babilen: yeah it shows, and this is squeeze |
| 21:27.17 | thorie_ | Found Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (14.04) on /dev/sda4 |
| 21:27.33 | babilen | thorie_: And Ubuntu is listed in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? Did you run "grub-install /dev/sdX" (the device you boot from, something like /dev/sda) |
| 21:28.07 | jmcnaught | Tekcap: if you're interested in trying more of a brain hack, try setting your watch/phone to 24h time for a week. You'll get used to it |
| 21:28.39 | thorie_ | babilen: yeah there is a menuentry for it, says with Linux 3.13.0-24 on /dev/sda4 |
| 21:28.40 | babilen | Using 12h format for logs is ludicrous IMHO, but to each his/her own :) |
| 21:28.58 | babilen | thorie_: Okay, and you ran the grub-install command? |
| 21:28.59 | thorie_ | babilen: yeah, maybe the boot record is on /dev/sdb... i keep doing grub-install /dev/sda |
| 21:29.03 | thorie_ | babilen: yeah i did |
| 21:29.13 | Tekcap | The sad part is I live in Quebec and everything runs in 24, but I just refuse to adapt to it. |
| 21:29.40 | jmcnaught | Tekcap: i just moved to Quebec a year ago, hence the "brain hack" |
| 21:29.44 | babilen | thorie_: Well, then it should be listed. |
| 21:30.07 | thorie_ | babilen: thanks it worked |
| 21:30.14 | babilen | thorie_: Wonderful :) |
| 21:30.33 | babilen | ted20: So, you are not configuring your network? |
| 21:30.52 | Tekcap | The right thing to do would be to adapt heh. I need a trick to help me convert it quickly to 12 hour format |
| 21:31.53 | jmcnaught | Tekcap: if it's after noon subtract 12 |
| 21:31.55 | babilen | Tekcap: Did you ask in ##linux already and can I just not find it? |
| 21:32.52 | babilen | jmcnaught, Tekcap: I can see how this topic happened, but it is really getting off-topic now. There is no problem with discussing "how to cope with different measurement/time systems" in #debian-offtopic though |
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| 21:33.45 | Tekcap | Babilen I'm working on it with Google at the moment. If I have no luck then I'll try the linux channel. |
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| 21:35.25 | Tekcap | The hardware clock is showing the format I want, but date throws it up in 24. I'm just it's an easy fix, but I'll have to keep looking. |
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| 21:35.46 | teclo- | Hum it seems zsh doesn't create a .zsh_history file when you're root... is that right ? |
| 21:37.12 | jmcnaught | ted20: are you using network-manager? if so you can use the IPv4 options for a particular network to set the method to "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" and put the DNS information in there |
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| 21:39.03 | babilen | jmcnaught: No, ted20 sayd that he's not using NM, but refused to provide more information (and now quit) |
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| 21:45.56 | troete | Which methods of backing up (physical) debian machines are generally recommendable? Is rsyncing the whole root fs a viable backup method? |
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| 21:47.30 | OldParr | does award bios does not recognizes installing usb media created in linux via cp installer.iso /dev/sdb ? |
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| 21:47.43 | SynrGy | troete: you can't guarantee consistency that way |
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| 21:48.38 | tremon | troete: depends on your restore scenario. I tend to only backup /etc and /var (and /usr/local) |
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| 21:48.57 | babilen | Tekcap: Okay, I should probably mention that. You can, most likely, switch the rsyslog time format, but that still won't affect *everything* |
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| 21:49.03 | SynrGy | consider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_consistency |
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| 21:49.58 | derwaffenss | hi peeps is ircnet down ? |
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| 21:51.10 | troete | SynrGy: What would be the proper way to achieve greatest possible consistency? Stopping (most) running services? |
| 21:51.17 | Tekcap | Babilen: I'll have a look at that now, thanks |
| 21:53.05 | nmjerry | I have a question: With Debian 7.4, libssl1.0.0 is installed, synapted says no updates available for stable, openssl maintainers page says stable has another fresher lib, what should i do? |
| 21:54.02 | Brigo | ,v libssl1.0.0 |
| 21:54.03 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on i386 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u9; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u10; jessie: 1.0.1h-2; sid: 1.0.1h-2; experimental: 1.0.2~beta1-1 |
| 21:54.17 | jmcnaught | troete: for some services you might need to take additional steps. Backing up MySQL for example, I use mysqldump to get a snapshot of the databases, then backup the dumped .sql file. Also the most important part of backups is testing that restore works |
| 21:54.38 | Brigo | nmjerry, you have to upgrade from security reps |
| 21:54.47 | nmjerry | how can i tell if im afe? |
| 21:54.54 | Brigo | afe? |
| 21:54.58 | nmjerry | safe |
| 21:55.22 | Brigo | nmjerry, you never can say it :) |
| 21:55.48 | Brigo | the only you can do is to be updated |
| 21:56.01 | babilen | nmjerry: What does "apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0" give you? |
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| 21:56.52 | babilen | nmjerry: paste it to http://paste.debian.net please |
| 21:57.02 | nmjerry | i'll check |
| 21:57.32 | Tekcap | Babilen: I see an interesting line that says "use traditional timestamp format", but where do I have to go to change that? |
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| 21:58.15 | nmjerry | babilen thanx; I'm good |
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| 21:58.49 | derwaffenss | lol |
| 22:01.39 | troete | jmcnaught: that's not the first time I have heard that said, but im still somewhat hazy on that point. what exactly does testing a restore process imply? |
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| 22:01.41 | babilen | Tekcap: You might have to edit rsyslog files, but then I really wouldn't recommend this. http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_conf_templates.html lists templates, but AFAIK those timestamp formats are pre-defined |
| 22:02.45 | jmcnaught | troete: it depends on how you back things up, but backups are worthless if you can't restore from them. You could test the restore operation on a different machine for example |
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| 22:04.04 | troete | thank you very much for clarifying! and thanks to SynrGy, too. |
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| 22:08.29 | chalcedony | babilen, paste.debian.net/105020 |
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| 22:12.45 | chalcedony | i'm sorry to be long, i had irl issues |
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| 22:16.56 | jaggz|2 | Regarding window managers: I recently upgraded a server's debian version, and tried X on it (which I rarely use on that system). I think it was KDE, even, and found it had one of these new-fangled interfaces which seems simplified, and perhaps more suited for touchscreen... |
| 22:17.58 | jaggz|2 | I'm going to be setting up a new system and just wanted to ask about that -- is my recollection correct? And what can be done to avoid such interfaces? |
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| 22:27.07 | babilen | chalcedony: You still don't use exactly what I pasted, but some old entries on line 1-19 (remove those) |
| 22:29.05 | chalcedony | babilen, ok |
| 22:29.13 | chalcedony | thank you |
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| 22:34.49 | chalcedony | babilen, ok i now have 14 lines including # and a blank line but the rest is all yours |
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| 22:36.37 | babilen | chalcedony: perfect, apt-get update now |
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| 22:38.44 | chalcedony | ok doing that babilen :) |
| 22:39.14 | chalcedony | done babilen |
| 22:41.28 | babilen | enjoy |
| 22:42.07 | chalcedony | now let's see if it does vi(m) |
| 22:42.43 | chalcedony | YES!!! |
| 22:43.50 | chalcedony | is the desktop i have out-of-the-box, gnome? and does someone know the command to consolidate all the instances of something in one tab? |
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| 22:45.36 | babilen | something? |
| 22:45.48 | babilen | and yes, gnome |
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| 22:46.30 | chalcedony | babilen, like all the gnome terminals, or iceweasels? |
| 22:47.07 | chalcedony | i think it was something to the left of the bar, but doesn't seem to be anything there now |
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| 22:49.04 | meek_geek | how r u all |
| 22:49.48 | babilen | chalcedony: Which graphic card do you have? |
| 22:50.25 | chalcedony | babilen, moment |
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| 22:52.41 | chalcedony | babilen, ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics |
| 22:53.15 | chalcedony | babilen, i was going to tackle that next.. it's not doing badly, but also not seeing my two monitors as one big screen, which i want |
| 22:53.30 | babilen | chalcedony: What is your processor? |
| 22:53.41 | babilen | chalcedony: You need firmware for that GPU |
| 22:53.48 | babilen | dpkg: tell chalcedony -about radeon firmware |
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| 22:54.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell chalcedony -about microcode |
| 22:54.17 | babilen | chalcedony: That should sort you out for now :) |
| 22:54.45 | babilen | chalcedony: You will have to reboot after installing the radeon firmware. |
| 22:54.49 | chalcedony | thanks |
| 22:54.51 | babilen | np |
| 22:54.55 | chalcedony | :) |
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| 23:23.24 | behemo | Hello. |
| 23:23.42 | behemo | How can I make a new internal IP address? Like 127.0.0.2 or something? |
| 23:25.01 | waynr | behemo: sudo ip addr add 127.0.0.2/8 dev lo |
| 23:25.42 | waynr | assuming your loopback device is named 'lo' |
| 23:26.43 | behemo | Is there a way to redirect a port to that? If I went to x.x.x.x:1234, could I have it automatically go through 127.0.0.2:1234? |
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| 23:29.32 | waynr | yes, you'd need to use iptables for that |
| 23:29.48 | waynr | or some higher level firewall software |
| 23:30.02 | waynr | i use shorewall myself |
| 23:31.47 | siignal | is there a new command for running "service networking restart" ? it gives me something about being deprecated when i run it |
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| 23:32.48 | Otyugh | ,v smtube |
| 23:32.49 | judd | Package: smtube on i386 -- jessie: 2.1-1; sid: 2.1-1 |
| 23:33.33 | waynr | siignal: are you running systemd as init? |
| 23:34.01 | behemo | waynr: One more question. Is there any web interface which would allow me to do such a thing? I want to be able to connect to a server and input a password to a web interface, and if it authenticats, it should give me access on the web interface to 127.0.0.2:1234. What software would I use for that? |
| 23:34.22 | waynr | the "service" command is intended for system V init style of service start/stop |
| 23:34.31 | waynr | with systemd the more correct tool to use would be systemctl |
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| 23:35.15 | waynr | behemo: not sure what you mean by "access on the web interface to 127.0.0.2:1234" |
| 23:35.22 | siignal | waynr, ok ty. i need to check as i am using a VPS not sure what the set me up with :/ |
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| 23:36.27 | behemo | waynr: I have a service running which has a web interface. But that service does not allow password authentication, it only allows authentication from a whitelisted IP. |
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| 23:38.20 | waynr | ah i see, not sure then... |
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| 23:38.41 | behemo | What channels would be a better place to ask then? |
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| 23:39.03 | waynr | this might be the right channel, but i'm not the right person :) |
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| 23:39.55 | behemo | OK |
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| 23:40.10 | waynr | i mean as far as i know you either need some kind of middleware that does session management or need to add authentication to the project you are using |
| 23:40.21 | waynr | but i'm not a web developer |
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| 23:41.31 | waynr | but even then if you don't have https between your computer and the web interface or its authentication wrapper then there isn't much point in worrying too much about security |
| 23:42.31 | behemo | I do have https. |
| 23:42.34 | ted20 | What's better, repearing downgraded debian, or install clean version from debootstrap? |
| 23:43.16 | waynr | behemo: i think apache has some kind of password protection |
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| 23:46.38 | waynr | behemo: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/auth.html |
| 23:46.41 | jmcnaught | behemo: you could probably do what you want to with apache's mod_auth_basic for the password and mod_proxy |
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| 23:50.43 | behemo | waynr: I cannot use Apache. |
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| 23:51.13 | waynr | why not? |
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| 23:52.54 | Smrtz | I'm getting conflicting results online, but I'm trying to set my computer up so it'll automatically connect to a wifi network secured with WEP when it's in range. What's the best way to do this? |
| 23:53.17 | Mike9863 | I'm currently using debian jessie and some of my packages have gotten mixed up due to apt-pinning. To fix this I want to upgrade to the latest sid, I'm just wondering if I'll have any trouble doing so due to some packages being mixed around. |
| 23:53.34 | Brigo | Smrtz, network-manager or wicd |
| 23:53.55 | Smrtz | Brigo, can I use wicd without having to start x? |
| 23:54.05 | behemo | waynr: I don't want to add too many services or bloat. |
| 23:54.55 | Brigo | no, sorry |
| 23:55.10 | Smrtz | Brigo, ahh, so network manager it is. Thanks! |
| 23:55.39 | Brigo | np |
| 23:56.00 | jmcnaught | behemo: whichever web server you're using probably support http basic authentication and proxying |
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| 23:56.35 | Smrtz | Brigo, does network-manager use the iw package? My wireless card doesn't work with that... |
| 23:56.56 | Brigo | Mike9863, and shouldn't you undo pining? |
| 23:57.05 | behemo | jmcnaught: I am not using any web server right now. |
| 23:57.15 | Brigo | i don¡t know |
| 23:57.28 | Brigo | Smrtz, but i think not |
| 23:57.47 | Smrtz | Thanks for the help Brigo |
| 23:58.09 | Brigo | jmcnaught, it is the own aplication who has the web server inside. |
| 23:58.14 | Brigo | Smrtz, np :) |
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| 23:58.36 | Smrtz | y |
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| 23:59.18 | jmcnaught | behemo: well nginx has a reputation of being lighter than apache. either of those could password protect and proxy to the web interface of the application you're running. Depending on what that application is, it might also have built-in support for http basic auth |
