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| 00:42.55 | anoob | debian netinst does detect my network interfaces but it doesn't pass the dhcp step ... |
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| 00:43.28 | mikey | anoob: How many nics do you have, are htey both prepared for dhcp boot? |
| 00:43.45 | mikey | s/dhcp boot/dhcp |
| 00:44.30 | anoob | mikey, nics? |
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| 00:45.02 | mikey | anoob: ethernet ports |
| 00:45.29 | mikey | or are you trying to use wifi? |
| 00:45.56 | anoob | mikey, eth0 and eth1 |
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| 00:46.25 | mikey | anoob: Can you get an IP via dhcp on both interfaces? |
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| 00:46.40 | anoob | no mikey |
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| 00:47.10 | mikey | anoob: that's probably where your DHCP failure is encountered then. The debian installer will probably ask you to configure your IP manually. |
| 00:47.32 | anoob | it used to work .. i don't understand why |
| 00:47.47 | anoob | i have a cable connected directly to my modem/router |
| 00:48.27 | mikey | anoob: the debian installer should detect which one is plugged in, and from there attempt a dhcprequest. |
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| 00:49.06 | anoob | mikey, hum ... do you have any tip? what should i look for? |
| 00:49.17 | Pancakez | I want to go back and reconfigure my packages like I was able to at install, but base-config seems to no longer be part of debian? was it replaced with something else, or am I out of luck? |
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| 00:50.12 | mikey | anoob: hmmmm, after it fails dhcp, does it ask you to configure an IP for your nics? |
| 00:50.23 | anoob | yes mikey |
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| 00:57.06 | anoob | mikey, static ip seems to work ... i don't understand why ... |
| 00:57.23 | anoob | it has never been necessasry |
| 00:57.37 | mikey | anoob: well that's good, i guess testing dhcp inside of debian once it's installed would work. |
| 00:59.02 | anoob | mikey, thank you very much |
| 00:59.08 | mikey | anoob: no problem |
| 00:59.26 | anoob | bye :) |
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| 01:01.18 | Pancakez | ooh, found what I was looking for "tasksel" knew it had to be something |
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| 01:02.13 | dvs | Pancakez: or you could install one of the "task-*" packages |
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| 01:43.58 | wokko | Hi there just testing to see you you recieve me loud and clear :) |
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| 01:48.27 | OutOfTime | Where can I go to get 1-on-1 chat advice for linux basics? I'm pulling my hair out over some permissions issues tonight... |
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| 01:49.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell OutOfTime about permissions |
| 01:49.54 | abrotman | read that, let us know what specific questions you have about your Debina system |
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| 01:51.44 | OutOfTime | For starters, why can't I download files through FTP with the same user account I made them in SSH with? |
| 01:52.20 | abrotman | from the remote server? |
| 01:52.31 | OutOfTime | yes |
| 01:52.31 | abrotman | you'd have to show us permissoins (also, FTP is completely insecure) |
| 01:52.51 | OutOfTime | It's SFTP of course... Same account, non-root |
| 01:53.11 | abrotman | what's the error, what are the perms on directory and file |
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| 01:54.59 | OutOfTime | I get a filename:open for read: permission denied |
| 01:55.08 | OutOfTime | (In filezilla) |
| 01:55.28 | abrotman | paste.debian.net please |
| 01:55.42 | abrotman | I still don't know perms on file or directory |
| 01:56.30 | OutOfTime | I have no idea what you mean by: paste.debian.net Sorry, I'm kind of a debian noob. |
| 01:57.49 | OutOfTime | Oh, it's a pastebin |
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| 01:59.04 | OutOfTime | Grrr... I'm on a different PC than that one... Not goint to be easy as I thought |
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| 02:00.32 | OutOfTime | What I really need is is just a good "permissions for linux noobies" online tutorial... I never got to understand them much at all, other than the whole root-is-too-powerful-must-sudo thing. |
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| 02:02.49 | loeken | well |
| 02:04.00 | loeken | OutOfTime, its a big topic, but if you can follow the logic its not that hard |
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| 02:04.54 | loeken | simply but its 3 numbers XYZ and each number has a value, the first number says what the owner can do the 2nd what the group can do and the third what the user can do |
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| 02:05.10 | loeken | and however high that number is tells you what it can do |
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| 02:05.15 | loeken | like read / write / execute |
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| 02:05.42 | loeken | best approach is to create a few users, create a few groups, add a few users to a few groups then create files with different permissions and see what you can do |
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| 02:07.20 | abrotman | OutOfTime: the bot gave you one |
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| 02:15.12 | asherawelan | As part of an automation, the cron file is edited without using crontab - this of course doesnt take affect unless I crontab -e and make a change…. I’m guesing its not initizing… is there a command to get crontab to to that without using the crontab program? |
| 02:15.18 | asherawelan | *i.e. unassisted |
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| 02:16.28 | abrotman | asherawelan: eh .. the file just goes in /var/spool/cron/ with the correct permissions |
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| 02:19.08 | asherawelan | abrotman: Yes, I know that |
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| 02:20.13 | asherawelan | abrotman: However, the cron doesnt seem to action or do anything, unless i go in, and add a character of something, make some sort of edit using crontab, on exit it then installs this new file… if I just edit the text file, it doesnt seem to do that last importnat step |
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| 02:38.43 | jtreminio | Evening all. I'm using dotdeb, which seems to be having connectivity issues. It has a list of mirrors (http://www.dotdeb.org/mirrors/). Is there a package that can pick and choose the fastest mirror from a list? |
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| 02:44.49 | zykotick9 | !tell jtreminio about dotdeb |
| 02:45.48 | jtreminio | zykotick9: I understand. However, my question would be useful in any general context |
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| 02:46.02 | jtreminio | Is there a package that you can feed a list of mirrors to, and it can cycle through them to find the fastest one? |
| 02:46.53 | zykotick9 | jtreminio: that argument is like <based on debian> |
| 02:47.38 | jtreminio | zykotick9: Not sure I follow... |
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| 02:48.00 | jtreminio | A tool that can round robin through a list of defined mirrors wouldn't be useful for many projects? |
| 02:49.03 | abrotman | just pick one and use it |
| 02:51.20 | jtreminio | btw, I may be reading this incorrectly, but it appears to be a problem with debian servers? http://pastie.org/9321527 |
| 02:51.20 | zykotick9 | jtreminio: to quote babilen: < babilen> warzone: It is easy: Only Debian is supported in #debian. Just install Debian and you are welcome here but it is *your* decision to *not* use Debian, so live with the consequences. Have a good day and may you solve your problem. |
| 02:51.21 | jtreminio | ok :( |
| 02:51.22 | vincent_c | jtreminio: if you're concerned about finding the fastest debian mirror, just use http.debian.net instead |
| 02:51.22 | zykotick9 | notes cdn is still overed during netinst, http.d.n is not |
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| 02:52.44 | zykotick9 | abrotman: everyone suggests h.d.n but it isn't offered by netinst... that seem counter productive to me |
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| 02:56.43 | abrotman | zykotick9: for dotdeb? |
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| 02:57.19 | zykotick9 | abrotman: no! http.debian.net vs cdn.debian.?net |
| 02:57.31 | abrotman | hdn |
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| 02:59.21 | zykotick9 | abrotman: h.d.n is NOT a mirror option during netinst - is my only point. BUT cdn is... |
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| 03:06.24 | abrotman | i know |
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| 03:10.42 | zykotick9 | abrotman: doesn't that seem counter to what you know from #d? IMO "everyone" suggests hdn yet netinst (which i think everyone should use to install) _doesn't_ offer it by default? this seems like a disconnect to me... |
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| 03:12.29 | abrotman | zykotick9: no, HDN is a better one, CDN is old |
| 03:12.55 | zykotick9 | abrotman: RIGHT! so why isn't it in netinst? |
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| 03:13.20 | abrotman | zykotick9: Didn't exist for long when wheezy was released |
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| 03:15.14 | zykotick9 | abrotman: i could be wrong! but want h.d.n. around during squeeze? |
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| 03:15.30 | zykotick9 | s/want/wasn't/ |
| 03:17.58 | abrotman | no |
| 03:19.06 | zykotick9 | abrotman: fyi, h.d.n. _correctly_ redirects me to the local nrc mirror (in my home city!) - BUT, it's a crappy mirror (no sid repo, updates, etc). yet using cdn typically has everything. just sayin'... |
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| 03:35.56 | McErroneous | Hi, i am on Knoppix 7.0, does somebody knows on what debian release this build ? |
| 03:36.30 | Cpuroast | Version 7.0.2 of Knoppix is based on the usual picks from Debian stable (squeeze) and newer Desktop packages from Debian/testing and Debian/unstable |
| 03:36.43 | Cpuroast | http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix702-en.html |
| 03:37.02 | Cpuroast | guess googling is hard |
| 03:37.03 | Cpuroast | :) |
| 03:37.13 | pwc | L 0 L |
| 03:37.18 | McErroneous | lool |
| 03:37.37 | pwc | peeing my pants |
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| 03:41.17 | McErroneous | So , let me ask you guys another question..., i discovered that most of the entire Internet-Links for older Linux-Distros are broken or unfunctional, why is that... i tried hard.., only looking for hours on googles led to an result and working links |
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| 03:41.59 | pwc | umm, ? |
| 03:42.02 | jtreminio | Dear #debian, why is the internet broken? |
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| 03:43.08 | pwc | this is truly confusing |
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| 03:45.22 | pwc | <McErroneous> ,,, your not using { knoppix } as a desktop are you ????? |
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| 03:45.34 | pwc | : 0 |
| 03:45.56 | McErroneous | yes, i am about to to so.. |
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| 03:46.52 | McErroneous | :)) |
| 03:47.31 | McErroneous | you are not an hacker, are you pwc.. |
| 03:48.29 | pwc | don't tell anyone ... |
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| 03:50.11 | McErroneous | okay.. |
| 03:51.41 | skilz | How do I check what /dev/ my usb HFS+ apple drive is? |
| 03:51.50 | skilz | df isn't telling me much |
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| 03:52.42 | floyin | skilz: what about lsblk? |
| 03:53.10 | floyin | or check what dmesg says |
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| 03:54.42 | shay_shay | this is odd, i have a connection with my internet, its wifi, then when i plug this usb connector to my beaglebone i lose connection |
| 03:54.49 | shay_shay | yet this doesnt happen on ubuntu |
| 03:55.16 | shay_shay | i'm using gnome 3 on jessie |
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| 03:59.32 | shay_shay | i want the wifi connection to be used for the internet, the other interface is only to adhoc with another computer |
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| 04:06.41 | McErroneous | does anybody knows the year, in which the "audible ping"-option (ping -a) has been disabled ? |
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| 04:10.06 | somiaj | McErroneous: you can go check the change log, might be in tehre, /usr/share/doc/iputils-ping |
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| 04:10.33 | McErroneous | somiaj: k. |
| 04:10.49 | McErroneous | /usr/share/doc |
| 04:11.03 | McErroneous | cd iputils-ping |
| 04:11.45 | shay_shay | wooohoo |
| 04:12.25 | pwc | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.53 | McErroneous | ^ |
| 04:13.24 | pwc | \ quit |
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| 04:20.38 | shay_shay | basically network manager on gnome is retarded |
| 04:21.13 | shay_shay | but it gets out of the way when its supposed to |
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| 04:23.27 | bauhaus1919 | hello i am looking for documentation on apt-get but apparently what i find on debian.org claims it is obsolete? |
| 04:25.09 | shay_shay | bauhaus1919 cite a specific example please? |
| 04:25.30 | bauhaus1919 | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html |
| 04:25.39 | bauhaus1919 | its the first hit when you search apt-get |
| 04:25.39 | shay_shay | some of the documentation is fragmented slightly but as usual in a wiki there will be a note if something is off |
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| 04:26.01 | nell | hello |
| 04:26.03 | shay_shay | thats not the latest documentation no |
| 04:26.08 | nell | i messe dup my debian and wont boot now http://a.pomf.se/umlqkh.png |
| 04:26.12 | bauhaus1919 | i just want to find documentation that is not obsolete |
| 04:26.15 | nell | I did a dangerous dd command |
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| 04:26.27 | nell | im in a livecd right now trying to recover |
| 04:26.33 | shay_shay | bauhaus1919: check out the debian handbook |
| 04:26.41 | shay_shay | bauhaus1919: ok let me look for you |
| 04:26.42 | nell | i ran fsck and have 1.9% non-contiguous on my partition |
| 04:26.43 | nell | what does that mean |
| 04:26.49 | nell | how do i recover |
| 04:27.04 | McErroneous | somiaj: in line 248 (nl) it mentions "audible ping by " ; headline number is [010805].., how do i relate that to a date ? |
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| 04:27.24 | bauhaus1919 | shay_shay: i just need some documentation for apt-get, someone had mentioned there is a search feature inside apt-get |
| 04:27.30 | shay_shay | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html |
| 04:27.39 | nell | http://a.pomf.se/umlqkh.png this is what i boot into now |
| 04:27.43 | jmcnaught | bauhaus1919: there's also "man apt-get" |
| 04:28.15 | bauhaus1919 | jmcnaight: i have been thru that man page, and i could not find the search |
| 04:28.18 | shay_shay | bauhaus1919: "apt-cache search" is one |
| 04:28.41 | shay_shay | theres also apt-file, which allows you to find a specific file |
| 04:28.51 | bauhaus1919 | shay_shay: ok thank you |
| 04:28.55 | shay_shay | useful if youre compiling and you dont know what package a library comes in |
| 04:28.57 | Rusty1 | or aptitude search <package> |
| 04:29.44 | bauhaus1919 | the handbook looks very helpful, what other places should i start? |
| 04:30.19 | jtreminio | vincent_c: do you guys provide help with http.debian.net? |
| 04:30.27 | jtreminio | you guys == the channel |
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| 04:31.06 | jmcnaught | nell: what do you mean "dangerous dd command"? Did you copy over an important partition? |
| 04:31.28 | shay_shay | bauhaus1919: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ this is what you mean by "the handbook" ? |
| 04:31.36 | shay_shay | because thats what i meant :) |
| 04:31.57 | nell | jmcnaught maybe |
| 04:32.06 | nell | i might of overwrote root |
| 04:32.10 | nell | cuz it just crashed my computer |
| 04:32.16 | vincent_c | jtreminio: if you have a question about http.d.n, just ask |
| 04:32.16 | nell | and now i cant log back in |
| 04:32.27 | nell | i tried to do /dev/dm-1 |
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| 04:32.37 | vincent_c | if it's not a question we can answer here in #debian, I'd suggest contacting the DD who maintains it |
| 04:32.40 | nell | I didn't partition correctly. |
| 04:32.49 | jmcnaught | nell: The first thing you should do is see if you can mount any of your other volumes from the live CD, and back them up |
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| 04:33.39 | nell | I am doing that right now jmcnaught |
| 04:33.46 | nell | And I can |
| 04:34.13 | nell | I'll make it out alright from this one I think.. |
| 04:34.38 | nell | but how do i restore my proper settings |
| 04:34.41 | nell | packages etc? |
| 04:34.49 | jmcnaught | nell: <enter> is not a substitute for punctuation, it's harder to follow you when you span several lines :) |
| 04:35.12 | nell | I'm sorry about that, I'm still recovering from the shock |
| 04:35.21 | jtreminio | vincent_c: A simple "apt-get update" on a new VM returns http://pastie.org/9321658 |
| 04:35.23 | shay_shay | breathe |
| 04:35.42 | jtreminio | However, I could proceed as normal, but I'm curious if I should be worried about i |
| 04:35.54 | nell | you know that stomach dropping face flushing feel when you just messed up something important |
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| 04:36.06 | nell | Anyways sda5 is alright |
| 04:36.20 | nell | I keep home directory on separate partition |
| 04:36.25 | nell | but my root partition suffered |
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| 04:37.26 | tilt | hi |
| 04:37.38 | shay_shay | nell you can backup, and if you need to recover configs from / then you might want to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestDisk |
| 04:37.57 | jmcnaught | nell: do you have any backups of /etc for example? that would be helpful. Depending on what dd was copying over your root volume, it might be difficult to recover any files. There are some recovery tools you could try using in Debian like testdisk, photorec, gddrescue. In my experience most of these tools are limited to recovering the contents of files (but not necessarily the directory structure or file names) |
| 04:38.27 | shay_shay | ^^ |
| 04:39.28 | nell | i have backups |
| 04:39.30 | nell | phew |
| 04:39.33 | jmcnaught | nell: did you have a lot of customization in /etc? If it's mostly the defaults in there, it might be simpler to finish backing up the home partition and do a reinstall |
| 04:39.36 | tilt | i am looking for the hp server support matrix for debian, but the link on hp.com ist b0rken: http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/servers/operating-systems/community-linux/distributions.html |
| 04:39.42 | nell | i think i did |
| 04:40.04 | nell | btw |
| 04:40.07 | tilt | does someone know a list of server hardware that offers debian gnu/linux certification? |
| 04:40.26 | nell | At startup I have an unknown IP address establish port 443 connection |
| 04:40.27 | nell | idk what it is |
| 04:40.47 | nell | its an IP belonging to some box in poland |
| 04:41.18 | jmcnaught | nell: is this in the Live CD session? Is your computer connected directly to the internet? |
| 04:41.25 | nell | No this is on my backup |
| 04:41.27 | nell | o-o |
| 04:41.46 | nell | It's been persistent and I try to view through wirehsark but no traffic goes through apparently |
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| 04:42.14 | nell | should I just block it or try to find out how its hooked? |
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| 04:43.12 | jmcnaught | tilt: in general if hardware is supported by one linux distro it's supported by all of them. It's still a good idea to research each component to be sure though |
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| 04:44.01 | tilt | jmcnaught: i basically need that work ("research each component") done already |
| 04:44.19 | jmcnaught | nell: well, if your computer is connected directly to the internet (not through a NAT router) then you should probably have a firewall. I'm not sure if by "my backup" you meant live cd sesssion or another computer... |
| 04:44.30 | tilt | jmcnaught: is there any such effort? |
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| 04:44.57 | tilt | jmcnaught: I see "DebianOn" but it appears to be more for laptops & such |
| 04:45.35 | jmcnaught | tilt: I'm not aware of any hardware certification program for Debian. If the company is telling you that the product works with Debian that would be a pretty good indication. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ Might help your research. |
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| 04:47.13 | vyadhaka | I just finished a C programming course at uni, we covered most of stephen kochan's programming in c text, I want to learn more of C, I am thinking of joining an opensource project and continue learning, any suggestions on where I need to look to find projects that I can contribute to |
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| 04:47.25 | jmcnaught | tilt: remember that all Linux distros share the kernel in common, so if a product is certified to work with RHEL or SUSE there's a pretty good chance it'll work with Debian. Keep in mind that Debian 7 (aka Wheezy, the current stable release) has Linux 3.2, but also with some backported drivers I believe |
| 04:47.41 | tilt | jmcnaught: thx! :) |
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| 04:48.42 | nell | what other customizations could be lost from root partition |
| 04:48.44 | nell | other than /etc/ |
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| 04:50.02 | jmcnaught | nell: probably everything in /var is gone, possibly including SQL databases, web sites, logs |
| 04:50.32 | nell | the connection is using tor |
| 04:50.41 | nell | the persistent ip |
| 04:51.43 | jmcnaught | nell: I'm still quite sure what you mean. Does your computer have a public IP address? |
| 04:51.53 | jmcnaught | nell: sorry.. not quite sure |
| 04:52.04 | nell | its a suspicious IP connection |
| 04:52.19 | nell | it establishes connection on port 443 near startup |
| 04:52.33 | nell | i think it could be nefarious |
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| 04:52.53 | jmcnaught | nell: outbound from your computer? what computer are you talking about? |
| 04:53.08 | nell | this is on a backup debian box |
| 04:53.11 | nell | the one im talking with right now |
| 04:53.36 | vincent_c | jtreminio: hmm, strange...are you perhaps missing the archive gpg key? Does it show up with apt-key list? |
| 04:53.50 | jmcnaught | nell: and it's connecting to some IP in poland, or some IP in poland is connecting to you. please try to be specific. |
| 04:53.58 | vincent_c | make sure you have debian-archive-keyring installed, or try fetching and importing the key manually |
| 04:54.09 | nell | how do I find out if im connecting to it or its connecting to me? |
| 04:54.14 | vincent_c | e.g. apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 8B48AD6246925553 |
| 04:57.16 | jmcnaught | vyadhaka: http://wnpp.debian.net/ has a list of Debian packages that need help. Some of the ones that are written in C might need help with patches. You could also look for bugs that require patches in the But Tracking System: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ Lots of FLOSS is written in C including Linux, Gnome, GTK, GIMP.. looking at their bug trackers is another way to look for ways to get involved. Maybe start with software you already enj |
| 04:58.07 | jmcnaught | nell: where is it showing the connection? Maybe paste the what you're seeing to http://paste.debian.net and give us the link so we can see it. |
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| 05:01.49 | nell | http://paste.debian.net/106637/ |
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| 05:06.40 | jmcnaught | nell: that looks to me like Tor on your computer is connected to that remote IP's 443 port |
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| 05:30.12 | cnz | what named package does wheezy install by default? |
| 05:30.13 | shay_shay | yo |
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| 05:31.23 | deego | cnz: named package? |
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| 05:31.28 | cnz | yeah |
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| 05:32.57 | abbe | bind9 ? |
| 05:33.08 | jmcnaught | abbe: they're gone already :/ |
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| 05:51.31 | vyadhaka | jmcnaught: thank you, I will look at the bugs list first |
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| 05:55.12 | sim590 | Hi. I'm trying to run music/videos on a server from my phone. I use gmediarender for that. gmediarender starts fine, but when I try to play a file, I get this in the log file : http://pastebin.com/Wkck9VxN |
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| 05:56.26 | sim590 | I don't know what's missing. It does that when I play an audio file as much as when I play a video file. |
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| 05:59.23 | jmcnaught | sim590: have you tried using a different one, like minidlna for example? Are you on Jessie? |
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| 06:02.12 | sim590 | jmcnaught: nope. I'm on wheezt |
| 06:02.15 | sim590 | wheezy |
| 06:02.16 | visiteur_1 | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/focus-fusion-empowertheworld--3 |
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| 06:04.02 | sim590 | jmcnaught: I think that it should work. There's just a package missing I guess. |
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| 06:05.12 | jmcnaught | sim590: I was just wondering because the gmediarender package doesn't seem to be available on Wheezy. I'm not really sure what that error means. Have you checked the |
| 06:05.34 | sim590 | I've added sid repository in order to install it |
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| 06:06.26 | jmcnaught | sim590: oh.. that's usually not a good idea. did it upgrade any other packages? it could be that the package was compiled for different versions of the libraries than what are in wheezy |
| 06:06.34 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell sim590 -about ssb |
| 06:07.22 | jmcnaught | sim590: the dpkg bot should have messaged you instructions on how to safely backport something from sid, compiling it into a .deb package that will work with the libraries in wheezy |
| 06:08.32 | sim590 | jmcnaught: oh ok. So the problem is obviously that. There shouldn't be missing packages if I installed it correctly. The dependencies from sid aren't the same as in wheezy. |
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| 06:09.10 | jmcnaught | sim590: when you install this (and anything else from testing/unstable) were any other packages pulled in? You might have created a FrankenDebian |
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| 06:12.39 | sim590 | lol |
| 06:12.46 | sim590 | hmmm may be |
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| 06:12.53 | botnut | hi all |
| 06:13.26 | sim590 | jmcnaught: is there a way to find packages that were installed from sid ? |
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| 06:14.34 | bauhaus1919 | hello all, i want to hook up a usb controller to linux? where is a good place to start? |
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| 06:14.55 | shay_shay | if the damage is too much to feasibly reverse by hand, another way to fix that is to update to jessie. jessie is compatible with sid. |
| 06:15.03 | jmcnaught | sim590: "aptitude search -F "%p %V %v" "?narrow(?installed,?not(?archive(stable)))" |
| 06:15.23 | jmcnaught | sim590: that's one command, everything between the outside quotes |
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| 06:16.01 | jmcnaught | bauhaus1919: a game controller? have you tried plugging it in? |
| 06:16.17 | sim590 | jmcnaught: I got that http://pastebin.com/57XmEj2z |
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| 06:18.20 | jmcnaught | sim590: it looks like a lot of your important libraries (libc6 for example, and apt related packages) have been upgraded to the version from unstable. This means that libc6 won't get any more wheezy security updates (because the update will always have a version number lower than the unstable version you have installed) |
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| 06:19.41 | jmcnaught | sim590: you could do as shay_shay suggested and upgrade to jessie/testing, but keep in mind that jessie isn't finished yet and is primarily intended for bug testing, and that things break from time to time. If you want to stay on Wheezy you may need to reinstall, and don't mix Debian releases this time |
| 06:19.46 | sim590 | and apt seems to have been installed on sid... it's a bit hard to uninstall it and install it again. |
| 06:20.28 | sim590 | I'm a archlinux user. I'm used to that I guess. |
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| 06:20.32 | shay_shay | take the sid line out, replace all wheezy lines with jessie, and then as sid packages make it into jessie you will little by little not have a mixed system anymore |
| 06:20.36 | jmcnaught | sim590: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian <- has some general advice on not breaking your system |
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| 06:21.34 | sim590 | shay_shay: thanks. I'll do that. |
| 06:21.58 | sim590 | jmcnaught: thank you too. That'll be useful |
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| 06:22.29 | jmcnaught | sim590: also for Jessie questions you should probably use #debian-next on irc.debian.org |
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| 06:23.30 | NotJimCarrey | how do i set it so that my external ntfs-3g drive is mounted with the contents owned by user? |
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| 06:24.48 | shay_shay | NotJimCarrey: you need to put uid and gid options in fstab for that drive |
| 06:25.02 | NotJimCarrey | doh |
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| 06:26.06 | shay_shay | man mount |
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| 06:26.43 | shay_shay | oh ok :) |
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| 06:28.53 | NotJimCarrey | had it set that way on my last install years ago |
| 06:29.14 | NotJimCarrey | current install hadn't needed it until i moved my PlayOnLinux vdrives to it |
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| 07:42.13 | peetaur2 | arven: do you know about preseed? |
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| 07:45.10 | mms_ | I am using WICD on debian as network manager. I need to connect to wifi protected by captive portal. what do I need to select for properties in wicd network ? |
| 07:45.52 | babilen | mms_: #wicd might know (my personal recommendation would be to not use wicd as the project is borderline dead (and was already resurrected once)) |
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| 07:52.37 | mms_ | thanks posted a question there |
| 07:52.53 | mms_ | babilen: then what to use ? |
| 07:53.00 | mms_ | any recommendation ? |
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| 07:53.23 | babilen | I would expect wicd to have some right-click "edit network properties" functionality (and the equivalent in the ncurses interface) |
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| 07:53.44 | alexbodn | i have rsyslog installed on debian jesse. logging doesn't work (logerr "hello" doesn't get in syslog), since the last rotation. could you help? |
| 07:53.45 | mms_ | babilen: it does have properties..but what to choose in it ? |
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| 07:53.55 | babilen | I use network-manager on my portable devices and /etc/network/interfaces on boxes that should never change their network config |
| 07:54.00 | vook | Is it possible to A) get the e2label based solely on the mount point or B) determine the device of a given mountpoint. Basically I'm creating a script that should fail if the e2label of a mountpoint is not the correct volume. |
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| 07:54.31 | mms_ | babilen: I was using network-manager on my netbook but then it seems wifi was not working so I choose wicd. |
| 07:54.32 | babilen | mms_: My understanding of most of these captive portals is that you have to start a browser and enter your credentials on some website they present you with. |
| 07:54.55 | mms_ | babilen: correct but before that I need that basic internet up uisng same wifi... |
| 07:55.10 | peetaur2 | vook: A) you can use e2label to set labels to whatever you want, but it won't update when you mount. B) mount | grep /mnt/??? |
| 07:55.13 | mms_ | babilen: it fails there it self. on windows I can able to get the browser popup |
| 07:55.16 | babilen | Sure and the network should be open and easy to connect to. |
| 07:55.20 | vook | *Is it possible/How do I |
| 07:55.40 | vook | peetaur2: I do not wish to set the label, simply grab it based on mount point |
| 07:55.51 | mms_ | ok will come back later.. |
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| 07:56.12 | peetaur2 | vook: so loop through the mount output, then e2label on it to get the label, then you can compare |
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| 07:56.55 | vook | peetaur2: ah, ok. just some grep/awk - yes that should do. Thanks. |
| 07:57.32 | peetaur2 | and FYI grep "on /mnt/..." might be better if you are parsing mount output |
| 07:58.20 | peetaur2 | and FYI if you dont' know, the "basename" and "dirname" commands are good for parsing paths (like if youw anted /mnt/disk1 to turn into disk1) |
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| 07:58.41 | vook | peetaur2: thanks : "e2label `mount | grep media\/truecrypt1 | awk '{print $1}'`" this worked. |
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| 07:58.57 | vook | ok, thanks |
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| 08:00.32 | peetaur2 | vook: you should use $(...) instead of `...` ` ` is deprecated in bash |
| 08:01.03 | formorer | deprecated is the wrong word. but $( ) is better readable. |
| 08:01.15 | peetaur2 | socially rather than officially deprecated ;) |
| 08:01.20 | vook | hmm, interesting |
| 08:02.01 | peetaur2 | and you can't do $( $(... ) $(...) ) with `` |
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| 08:02.24 | peetaur2 | (but that would also be ugly after a while) |
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| 08:26.18 | foovar | Hi guys. Sorry If I am not supposed to write my question here. I have Debian 64 (latest) sid installed. Today I did a dist-upgrade and after the first restart of my machine Debian won't boot. During the last dist-upgrade if I am not mistaken some systemd packages where upgraded (maybe systemd is the cause of the problem?) Anyway... when I boot I get this strange error: "ALERT! /dev/disk/by_uuid/<a_big_uuid_here> does not exist. Dropping to a shell."Then it repo |
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| 08:30.16 | Nik05 | foovar welcome to the club ;) |
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| 08:30.51 | Nik05 | oh and foovar you probably want to go to #debian-next on OFTC |
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| 08:31.44 | babilen | irc.oftc.net that is |
| 08:31.58 | foovar | thanks man! |
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| 08:38.23 | mrtn | Helo. Anyone knows of some estimates of licenses in Debian (either for pacages or better yet, total SLOC) of copylefts (GPL and comparable) vs less restrictive (bsd, apache, mit etc) ? |
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| 08:51.34 | XF | hi , would like to remove 3 progs from my system , what is the right command for totally deletion thro' terminal , tks |
| 08:52.37 | joltcan | XF: aptitute remove/purge <program>? |
| 08:53.59 | poeticrpm | you will have to remove the dependencies too (if it has any). You can usually use apt-get autoremove for that |
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| 08:57.07 | XF | joltcan, poeticrpm , would like to remove the 3 progs forever no dependencies pla pla need claean capacity |
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| 09:04.32 | equex | how does it happen that i suddenly 'hold broken packages' ? would this not become obvious when its installed that it is borken ? |
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| 09:04.54 | equex | or does that not become obvious until after the fact |
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| 09:05.27 | some-cowbell_ | Hi, I'm looking to find out how to boot a second-drive grub2 setup from a grub1 (on the first drive). First: where does grub2 put its initial boot image? |
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| 09:06.31 | nkuttler | !tell equex about errors |
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| 09:09.30 | mark06 | can anyone explain why could one possibly add (<< ${source:Upstream-Version}-z) to the dependency field here? http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/pidgin.git;a=commitdiff;h=7632fac272011c7bed2c04fbdff32ad1aa31a491 |
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| 09:10.19 | mark06 | the -z part is intriguing me |
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| 09:11.58 | Nida | Hello, I would like to know if it possible to install python on debian Wheezy without updating libssl ? |
| 09:13.18 | nkuttler | Nida: why would you not want to update it? output of apt-cache policy libssl? |
| 09:14.04 | Nida | I need to have a debian with python but a specific libssl in order to perform tests |
| 09:14.57 | Nida | nkuttler: [missed the /nkuttler] |
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| 09:15.37 | nkuttler | !tell Nida about hold |
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| 09:16.50 | Nida | nkuttler: I don't understand ? |
| 09:17.10 | nkuttler | Nida: did you read the bot's pm? |
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| 09:18.07 | Nida | nkuttler: "!tell Nida about hold", I don't understand what it means sorry |
| 09:18.13 | nkuttler | !hold |
| 09:18.14 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771. See also <hold list>, <unhold>. |
| 09:18.49 | nkuttler | Nida: that was a command for the bot to send you this ^^ message as pm |
| 09:19.15 | Nida | nkuttler: oh I understand now ^^ sorry I'm quite new with IRC |
| 09:19.21 | nkuttler | np |
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| 09:19.46 | skilz | What can I do so I see a popup window when I'm watching a movie on vlc when I receive a pidgin message? |
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| 09:20.07 | cynicallemon | ignore it... |
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| 09:21.19 | skilz | I want to enable this |
| 09:22.21 | cynicallemon | do u mean when the movie is full screen? |
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| 09:25.18 | skilz | Yes |
| 09:25.39 | skilz | I want to see a little popup notification in the top right of my screen when watching a movie |
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| 09:29.31 | some-cowbell | got it!! root (hd1) chainloader +1 boot... so it was on the mbr I guess |
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| 09:30.29 | skilz | Something like http://growl.info/ |
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| 09:34.01 | Nida | nkuttler: (query sent) |
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| 09:37.52 | folivora | Hello. Anyone has 4k 60Hz Display? I have problem with Displayport 1.2, I am running 337.19-1 experimental drivers, since those do have some BUG-fixes for DP 1.2. Still when I enable DP 1.2 on my display it goes into PowerSaveMode. |
| 09:38.31 | OpenTokix | folivora: I have a 30hz display, are you running a nvidia-card? |
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| 09:39.01 | OpenTokix | folivora: I could not get my nvidia GTX 560 to deliver a good 4k image, had to switch to a ATI R9x-card |
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| 09:39.34 | skilz | Any good free GUI VM program for Debian? |
| 09:40.07 | OpenTokix | skilz: no, but virtual-manager works |
| 09:40.14 | skilz | GTX 560 is too old |
| 09:40.24 | skilz | Do you have to pay for it? |
| 09:40.34 | OpenTokix | skilz: no |
| 09:40.43 | OpenTokix | skilz: for the gtx 560, yes I did |
| 09:40.53 | SynrGy | er, what? too old? |
| 09:41.10 | SynrGy | ah, 4k image. no clue |
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| 09:46.29 | skilz | What program can I use to run OSX in Debian virtually? |
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| 09:46.54 | OpenTokix | skilz: virtualbox afaik |
| 09:47.15 | OpenTokix | skilz: Only that have 3d passthru, but it will be very slow anyway |
| 09:47.23 | SynrGy | check your license. unless it's on apple hardware, probably in violation of terms of license. |
| 09:47.46 | SynrGy | (i.e. don't ask us here or in #vbox for help with that :) |
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| 09:49.00 | zetheroo1 | if a Debian system is having issues waking from suspend would the error info be logged? - if so where? |
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| 09:49.23 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 09:49.30 | folivora | OpenTokix: I have GTX660 and running 30hz, but I would like to get 60hz up |
| 09:49.48 | OpenTokix | folivora: what monitor do you have? |
| 09:50.11 | OpenTokix | folivora: if it is the dell P2815Q, it cant do more then 30Hz |
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| 09:50.48 | folivora | OpenTokix: I have Dell UP3214Q, it does 60hz |
| 09:50.59 | some-cowbell | 30 hz is pretty slow... wouldn't that flicker too much? |
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| 09:51.20 | folivora | OpenTokix: I did test with Windows laptop and it works on 60hz. The problem is that I cant get DP 1.2 work on Debian properly |
| 09:51.52 | folivora | OpenTokix: also GTX660 does DP 1.2 |
| 09:52.00 | OpenTokix | some-cowbell: yes, it sucks |
| 09:52.17 | OpenTokix | folivora: no, the nvidia linuxdrivers are pretty bad |
| 09:52.26 | Seidr | Heya, I'm having trouble getting a Debian dist to install due to a missing route for the eth0 interface. Is there a keyboard shortcut to drop to terminal during the installation (and return to the GUI installer)? Thanks |
| 09:52.27 | OpenTokix | folivora: thats why I moved to a AMD R9x card |
| 09:52.35 | OpenTokix | folivora: for 4K that is |
| 09:52.40 | ShapeShifter499 | I have a debian system that shares a printer with cups. On another system Arch I can display the pdf I want to print just fine in firefox but when I print the pdf it shows up with all sorts missing or incorrect characters. Why is this happening? |
| 09:52.49 | OpenTokix | Seidr: ctrl + alt + F2 |
| 09:52.58 | OpenTokix | Seidr: and you can get a shell and mess around with the routes |
| 09:53.20 | Seidr | Awesome! Thank you OpenTokix, just what I was looking for :) |
| 09:53.29 | OpenTokix | Seidr: yw |
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| 09:53.40 | SynrGy | OpenTokix: btw, i looked at nvidia's own doc and it suggests they only really support 4k in 600 and higher |
| 09:53.43 | folivora | OpenTokix: nvidia-driver 337.19.1 it should work ? |
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| 09:54.06 | OpenTokix | SynrGy: My 560 supported 4k, but very bad in linux and perfectly in windows |
| 09:54.10 | SynrGy | ah, actually, it could be read that way, or it could be read as "only *all* 600 and higher support it" |
| 09:54.20 | SynrGy | yeah |
| 09:54.24 | SynrGy | https://developer.nvidia.com/4k-ultra-high-resolution-development |
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| 09:54.45 | OpenTokix | folivora: also, is your cable a higher then budget dp-cable? |
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| 09:55.07 | SynrGy | (i.e. 'some' 500 series could support it, but they're not bothering to exhaustively list those here) |
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| 09:56.11 | SynrGy | OpenTokix: still, i guess it's to be expected the thrust of driver development would follow where the majority of the cards are that support it and maybe missed out on some early models :p |
| 09:56.18 | folivora | OpenTokix: it is the cable which one came with the display :) |
| 09:56.21 | SynrGy | too bad, though |
| 09:56.41 | OpenTokix | folivora: ok |
| 09:56.49 | folivora | OpenTokix: so it should be enough |
| 09:56.59 | OpenTokix | folivora: yes |
| 09:57.00 | folivora | OpenTokix: since it ships with the display :) |
| 09:57.10 | OpenTokix | folivora: yes, should be yes |
| 09:57.28 | folivora | 30hz on this DP is a bit laggy |
| 09:58.58 | ShapeShifter499 | anyone know? |
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| 10:03.03 | L0aD1nG | Good Morning Everyone! |
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| 10:08.14 | SynrGy | ShapeShifter499: if you transfer the file to the debian system and print it from there, does it print ok, or the same problem? |
| 10:09.03 | SynrGy | ShapeShifter499: if it prints ok from debian, it's an arch problem and you should see them for support. if it prints garbled from debian, then that's something we can investigate. |
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| 10:14.22 | ShapeShifter499 | SynrGy, oh I haven't tested that |
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| 10:26.12 | jpinx | using wicd btw |
| 10:27.13 | zetheroo1 | if a Debian system is having issues waking from suspend would the error info be logged? - if so where? |
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| 10:28.10 | elichai2 | hey |
| 10:28.18 | elichai2 | how can i delete a paste from pastebin.debian? |
| 10:28.45 | elichai2 | *paste.debian |
| 10:29.15 | elichai2 | uploaded by pastebinit |
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| 10:29.59 | elichai2 | anyone? |
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| 10:30.29 | Mikaela | I think that you might not be able to do that. |
| 10:30.45 | Mikaela | But the paste probably has expiration time. |
| 10:31.10 | babilen | elichai2: You could go the paste from the IP you pasted it from and hope that it shows you "To delete your entry use: paste.debian.net/del .." link at the bottom |
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| 10:31.30 | babilen | elichai2: There are other ways if it is really problematic (it seems to be in your case) |
| 10:31.39 | ShapeShifter499 | SynrGy, ok testing it now |
| 10:31.52 | elichai2 | babilen: (how do you know that it's problematic?) how? |
| 10:32.23 | Mikaela | elichai2: I suggest you to regenerate your certificate. |
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| 10:32.35 | babilen | elichai2: I've seen your paste and my initial assessment of the leaked data is "Interesting" (aka "elichai2 probably did not want that to become public) |
| 10:32.41 | Mikaela | And other privatekeys which you pasted. |
| 10:32.53 | SOUL_OF_R00T | hello nice morning guys :) |
| 10:33.24 | babilen | elichai2: So, try to remove that paste *and* make sure that you replace all leaked certificates/keys asap |
| 10:33.26 | elichai2 | ok.... so if you all seen it i now must regenerate a new key and ban the old one :( |
| 10:33.40 | elichai2 | babilen: how can i remove? |
| 10:33.47 | babilen | elichai2: I told you already |
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| 10:34.05 | Mikaela | elichai2: http://paste.debian.net/106667 and hope that there is button for removal which might not be there as you used pastebinit. |
| 10:34.12 | babilen | If you don't have that link you cannot (I am not 100% sure how that site determines ownership of pastes) |
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| 10:34.33 | Mikaela | Sending the link probably doesn't matter as I think that everyone already looked at most recent pastes and found why you are asking. |
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| 10:34.35 | babilen | elichai2: I simply didn't want to link to your paste in here i order not to give it even greater exposure |
| 10:34.39 | L0aD1nG | hello people, i have a problem i cant paste to terminal when i copy from my IDE or Firefox for example anyone knows what could cause that?? |
| 10:34.58 | elichai2 | Mikaela: i know the link.... |
| 10:35.26 | babilen | elichai2: And you don't have the "To delete your entry use: paste.debian.net/de ..." link at the bottom? |
| 10:35.31 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: firefox? wtf? on debian? :) |
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| 10:35.50 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: yea why not? |
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| 10:36.16 | petern_ | Welcome to the Streisand effect |
| 10:36.22 | babilen | L0aD1nG: It's unnecessary as we ship a perfectly integrated (and working) Iceweasel package |
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| 10:36.42 | babilen | petern_: Soon on twatter |
| 10:36.42 | elichai2 | babilen: nope |
| 10:37.02 | babilen | elichai2: Well, consider it lost and treat all data as compromised |
| 10:37.02 | L0aD1nG | babilen: hello sir, well i prefer the official firefox. |
| 10:37.09 | babilen | L0aD1nG: Iceweasel *is* firefox |
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| 10:37.20 | babilen | dpkg: tell L0aD1nG about iceweasel |
| 10:37.24 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: so, which terminal? and what paste method? |
| 10:37.31 | Mikaela | babilen: Iceweasel is mostly outdated version of Firefox or at least lagging a lot behind. |
| 10:37.40 | L0aD1nG | babilen: I know that but i am kinda sick of it ;), |
| 10:37.53 | vak0160 | L0aD1nG: what IDE ? |
| 10:38.00 | babilen | Mikaela: Outdated? You can get the latest releases, aurora and beta versions on http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 10:38.03 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: well the xterm i guess |
| 10:38.09 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: if you're talking about middle-click to paste, then your primary selection probably isn't what you think it is. if you're talking about the clipboard, that's something else |
| 10:38.17 | Mikaela | babilen: And dpkg says that it's a fork of Firefox, not Firefox. |
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| 10:38.33 | Mikaela | babilen: mozilla.debian.net isn't part of official repositories. |
| 10:38.43 | elichai2 | babilen: yeah... that the problem... it's an purchased vpn.... :( |
| 10:38.43 | SynrGy | and if you really have problems with this (that some apps want to use selection and others clipboard) you can synchronize them by some sort of paste manager. |
| 10:38.46 | babilen | Mikaela: Debian maintains a few patches, yeah |
| 10:39.04 | SynrGy | personally, i like clipit for this purpose. |
| 10:39.21 | L0aD1nG | synrGY: i am talking about paste generally i use keyboard ShortCut but thats not the problem it doesnt even paste with right click -> Paste... |
| 10:39.22 | elichai2 | babilen: now he don't want me as his client anymore :( |
| 10:39.30 | babilen | elichai2: Well, the data is out there. I mean you could ask formorer to delete that paste, but by now it has been seen by so many people that I really wouldn't consider it to be secure in any way. |
| 10:39.48 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: right-click paste in xterm? i don't think it has such a thing ... |
| 10:39.54 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: maybe you don't really mean xterm? |
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| 10:40.31 | Mikaela | SynrGy: shift + insert |
| 10:40.34 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: also i don't know your IDE. is it debian software or something else? |
| 10:40.41 | Mikaela | I also use clipit. |
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| 10:41.35 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: if you use a clipboard manager (like clipit) then when you cut/copy something from your IDE, you can go to the clipboard manager and see if it even received it. |
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| 10:41.49 | caraconan | Hi there. How can I list the packages that are using another package? The goal is to remove a certain one withou breaking anything. Thanks |
| 10:42.04 | babilen | elichai2: Well, I'm sorry, but there is nothing that I can do. |
| 10:42.05 | L0aD1nG | left then lol i always confuse with the sides |
| 10:42.06 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: if that part is failing, then you have an IDE bug/misconfiguration and need to investigate. if it's a debian package, we can help with that ... if not, see your upstream for support. |
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| 10:42.22 | elichai2 | babilen: yeah.... he will ban that signature from his vpn... |
| 10:42.25 | elichai2 | babilen: thxs |
| 10:42.52 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: man firefox and ide was kinda e.g. it does that for everything and yes i am on xterm |
| 10:43.06 | PhoenixSTF | hey guys, what does one need to do to put a new package in Debian repo? |
| 10:43.11 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: one more thing. are you using a VM? desktop sharing? anything else that might screw with the clipboard in 'special' ways? (automatic clipboard sync between apps) |
| 10:43.28 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: i was doing that copy paste with default shortcut for like a year...CTRL-swift-v now it doesnt work |
| 10:43.41 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: teamviewer |
| 10:43.53 | SynrGy | gnrrrrggh |
| 10:43.56 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: but i was using that with no effects on xterm all that time |
| 10:44.14 | SynrGy | does everything work ok when teamviewer (not supported here) is *not* running? |
| 10:44.27 | SynrGy | if so, we can help. if not, see teamviewer for help. |
| 10:44.31 | L0aD1nG | no i bet its the same |
| 10:44.39 | SynrGy | ok. it's a testable theory :) |
| 10:44.39 | L0aD1nG | but let me close it and check now |
| 10:44.40 | L0aD1nG | sec |
| 10:45.14 | L0aD1nG | i will test it that was a good idea...but the thing is that i was using teamviewer too when i was pasting without probs...thats why i didnt try it... |
| 10:45.15 | L0aD1nG | sec |
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| 10:46.38 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: okay it is the IDE damn it :( |
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| 10:46.57 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: firefox and everything else is okay my bad |
| 10:47.04 | SynrGy | fun |
| 10:47.11 | SynrGy | recent upgrades to the IDE? |
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| 10:47.39 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: and the most important things i want to copy paste is from the ide so i can test them seperatly in python interprenter :( |
| 10:48.00 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: well yea i downloaded lastest version before a week that is the cause prob |
| 10:48.41 | SynrGy | !congratulate L0aD1nG |
| 10:48.42 | dpkg | Nice one L0aD1nG, you did it! |
| 10:49.50 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: hahaha i love that dpkg! thank you sir! |
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| 10:50.50 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: now i am pasting from IDE to firefox url then to terminal hahaha |
| 10:50.57 | SynrGy | uggh |
| 10:50.57 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: like a dumpass |
| 10:51.11 | SynrGy | well, i think a clipboard manager may be the way to go |
| 10:51.38 | L0aD1nG | SynrGy: its no problem man i can afford this, i can afford everything to use DEBIAN LINUX :D |
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| 10:52.10 | aborrero | hi there |
| 10:52.19 | ShapeShifter499 | SynrGy, ok seems like an arch issue, I'll take it to #archlinux |
| 10:53.03 | ShapeShifter499 | SynrGy, printed fine when a wget the pdf and ran it through lp |
| 10:53.20 | ShapeShifter499 | lpr |
| 10:53.46 | L0aD1nG | what do you think people is arch linux kernel faster than debian one? |
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| 10:54.12 | SynrGy | ShapeShifter499: good luck |
| 10:54.30 | SynrGy | L0aD1nG: offtopic |
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| 10:56.53 | poeticrpm | L0aD1nG, as someone who uses Arch and Debian (both with systemd), whoever says that is wrong. Thats all Ill say on that since its offtopic |
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| 10:58.58 | L0aD1nG | okay i got it ;) |
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| 11:05.32 | mjt | does linux (debian) support bluetooth mouse? |
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| 11:06.06 | ksk | probably ;) |
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| 11:13.13 | MCMic | Hello |
| 11:13.24 | L0aD1nG | hey there |
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| 11:13.57 | MCMic | I’m trying to use kde in wheezy, kopete can export contacts to «the address book» but they do not appears in kontact |
| 11:14.49 | MCMic | The export works as I see those contact in konversation when I use the address book contact linking dialog |
| 11:15.12 | MCMic | Any idea about how to configure kontact so that I see those? |
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| 11:16.18 | L0aD1nG | MCmic: I ve used kde rare so i think i think i am not the best guy to help you here :( |
| 11:16.50 | L0aD1nG | MCmic: but someone will do soon have patience.. :D |
| 11:17.18 | MCMic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:18.41 | MCMic | Is pulling KDE packages from testing in wheezy feasible? |
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| 11:20.57 | SynrGy | MCMic: no |
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| 11:22.39 | mms_ | I have upgraded to wheezy and now in gnome when I clock monitors it says could not exec process |
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| 11:22.50 | mms_ | s/clock/click |
| 11:23.14 | mms_ | I hope gnome-session is well installed |
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| 11:29.55 | Brigo | mms_, can you paste the /var/log/syslog file into paste.debian.net? |
| 11:30.15 | mms_ | I think I have gdm |
| 11:30.23 | mms_ | and not gnome-desktop-env |
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| 11:30.52 | mms_ | I had installed gnome-session |
| 11:31.05 | mms_ | probably I need to install gnome-desktop-environment ? |
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| 11:32.05 | Brigo | mms_, you can install just gnome who will install everything |
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| 11:33.04 | mms_ | actually I do not want libreoffice etc. |
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| 11:33.20 | mms_ | I was reading here https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 11:33.59 | Brigo | i think gnome will not install libreoffice |
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| 11:34.30 | mms_ | ok |
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| 11:36.19 | Nida | Hello. Is it possible to install the package libssl-dev 1.0.1e without the deb7u11 ? |
| 11:36.33 | Nida | (on debian 7.1) |
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| 11:37.07 | OpenTokix | Nida: why would you do that? |
| 11:37.11 | Brigo | ,v libssl-dev |
| 11:37.12 | judd | Package: libssl-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security-lts: 0.9.8o-4squeeze16; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11; jessie: 1.0.1h-3; sid: 1.0.1h-3; experimental: 1.0.2~beta1-1 |
| 11:37.50 | Brigo | Nida, it is the same package |
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| 11:39.25 | Nida | Brigo: well, is there a way to install python-dev without the package libssl-dev including this deb7u7 ? |
| 11:39.41 | petn-randall | Nida: Your question is a little vague. Depending on what you want to achieve, there are different solutions. |
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| 11:40.27 | petn-randall | (btw, libssl-dev is already at deb7u11, you're a little behind) |
| 11:40.38 | Brigo | i am really courious about that hate for deb7u7 :) |
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| 11:42.43 | OpenTokix | Brigo: People cant wrapp their head around apt - used to git clone shit from github straight in to ~ and start webservers on port 9000 |
| 11:42.55 | OpenTokix | Brigo: and think they are sysadmins |
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| 11:43.51 | Brigo | OpenTokix, wrapp? :) |
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| 11:44.17 | OpenTokix | Get their head around it, whatever =) |
| 11:44.18 | petn-randall | wrath + app = wrapp :) |
| 11:44.23 | OpenTokix | yeag |
| 11:44.24 | Brigo | XDD |
| 11:44.26 | OpenTokix | or something =) |
| 11:45.02 | joltcan | haha |
| 11:45.16 | OpenTokix | joltcan: =) |
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| 11:48.07 | petn-randall | Nida: Don't query people, keep it on the channel please. |
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| 11:50.10 | petn-randall | Nida: The reason I prefer to keep it on channel is that I'm not available at all times, and in case I'm afk someone else can pick up from where I left off. |
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| 11:52.26 | Nida | petn-randall: yes, but your point could have been said in query as well, no need to pollute this channel saying this. Anyway. |
| 11:52.48 | Nida | petn-randall: thanks for the notice |
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| 11:57.02 | Walex | the real reason for not welcoming one-on-one queries is that people volunteering to help are not doing it as anybody's personal unpaid assistant, but whenever they feel like commenting on a query. putting pressure on people willing to help is no a good idea... |
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| 12:02.27 | wood_quinn | How would I go about making a patch for my changes to a package so they can be used by the Debian package maintainer? |
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| 12:04.05 | petn-randall | Hi wood_quinn, it should be enough if you simply attach the unified diff ("diff -urN oldfile newfile") to the bug report in question. |
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| 12:06.38 | Anarch | Is there any way to start a Debian install from a running copy of the *standard* livecd, which has no desktop? It'd have to be a command. |
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| 12:10.31 | colo-work | Anarch, just install debootstrap in the live environment and off you go? |
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| 12:11.13 | Geraldus | Hi friends! ) |
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| 12:12.07 | Anarch | colo-work: Interesting, I'm reading about that now. |
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| 12:13.34 | iuaoe | I got a debian box running dnsmasq wich is connected to several vlans. dns server are run on the different vlans and I want to be able to ask dnsmasq about hosts on the different domains, anyone know how this should be done? |
| 12:14.11 | OpenTokix | iuaoe: you configure the dnsmasq to have forwarding to some real dns-server, like googles or your isps resolvers. |
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| 12:16.52 | iuaoe | OpenTokix: thanks, I do that, but for lets say vlan 220, there is a windows domain with its own dns server, and it would be awesome to be able to ask dnsmasq about names on that vlan |
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| 12:18.44 | nell | hello i used a dangerous dd command to make my system unbootable, at startup I get the message Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. and initramfs shell |
| 12:18.59 | nell | http://a.pomf.se/umlqkh.png this is the error screen |
| 12:19.03 | OpenTokix | iuaoe: and that is not real dnsnamnes eiother? |
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| 12:19.26 | OpenTokix | nell: what did you use? |
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| 12:19.53 | nell | i use debian |
| 12:19.57 | OpenTokix | iuaoe: I am not 100% sure of teh forwarding zones, but I think you can have multiple and they do them in order, or you push "search domains" to your clients |
| 12:20.02 | OpenTokix | nell: what dd-command did you run? |
| 12:20.21 | nell | dd if=blah.img of=/dev/dm-1 |
| 12:20.28 | OpenTokix | nell: oh |
| 12:20.30 | nell | it was supposed to be a sd card |
| 12:20.33 | OpenTokix | and blah.img ? |
| 12:20.40 | nell | it was an image for raspberry pi |
| 12:20.43 | OpenTokix | you have overwritten your /deV/dm-1 |
| 12:20.45 | OpenTokix | dev |
| 12:20.55 | OpenTokix | and that was probably your rootlv |
| 12:21.10 | OpenTokix | unless you have a blockdevice backup, this system will be almost impossible to restore |
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| 12:21.20 | nell | T_T |
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| 12:25.17 | iuaoe | OpenTokix: I would like to make dnsmasq instead of asking google,opendns,cesidian, for certain domains ask the local dns-servers instead :) |
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| 12:27.44 | iuaoe | OpenTokix: oh, it seem to actually work now for some reason 0.o |
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| 12:29.12 | sjamaan | Hi. I'm on a wheezy box which seems to have multiple audio devices and the wrong one is chosen as the default. How can I configure alsa to ignore the "wrong" card, or set the other one as default? |
| 12:29.41 | sjamaan | I found http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards but the syntax and scripts mentioned don't seem to match with what I'm seeing |
| 12:30.29 | nell | can i use testdisk |
| 12:31.00 | andhoy | sjamaan: Ill send you my .asoundrc if you like |
| 12:31.09 | sjamaan | That would be helpful, thanks |
| 12:31.54 | frostschutz | sjamaan, in my case a kernel parameter does the trick ( snd_hda_intel.index=1 ) |
| 12:32.34 | sjamaan | frostschutz: Where does that go? |
| 12:32.56 | andhoy | http://pastebin.com/vyJg5cLG |
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| 12:33.59 | sjamaan | andhoy: Is this documented somewhere? It looks very terse :/ |
| 12:34.12 | andhoy | sjamaan: try to put this here ~/.asoundrc :) |
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| 12:35.01 | sjamaan | andhoy: Wow, I'll be damned. It works, unmodified |
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| 12:35.16 | sjamaan | How does it work? |
| 12:35.33 | User1 | Hi Guys, How to make a bootable Debian USB installer from a Mac OSX machine for a Windows machine? |
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| 12:36.19 | andhoy | sjamaan: switches the cards from 0 to 1 I guess :) But Im not into alsa at all. |
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| 12:36.33 | sjamaan | You cargo culted it from elsewhere? ;) |
| 12:38.24 | andhoy | sjamaan: probably a solution I got at #alsa some time ago, after googeling and failing :) |
| 12:38.26 | wood_quinn | User1: You can use dd from Mac OS X. |
| 12:38.37 | sjamaan | andhoy: OK, thanks anyway :) |
| 12:38.48 | Walex | sjamaan: link to folow |
| 12:39.02 | User1 | you mean this for example? sudo dd if=/Volumes/Mavericks/Users/User/Desktop/debian-live-7.5.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso of=/dev/disk3 |
| 12:39.04 | sjamaan | Walex: Sorry, what? |
| 12:39.12 | Walex | sjamaan: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#troubles |
| 12:39.18 | wood_quinn | User1: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx |
| 12:39.20 | andhoy | sjamaan: you could probably put it in /etc/asoundrc folder too, to work system wide |
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| 12:39.42 | Walex | sjamaan: ah no, that's the wrong section, but it is in that document. |
| 12:39.47 | wood_quinn | This process should be vaguely similar to what's required for Debian though I am not sure the conversion from .iso to .img is necessary for a Debian installer. |
| 12:39.55 | Walex | sjamaan: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksDefault |
| 12:40.07 | wood_quinn | It's either a Mac OS X caused requirement or an Ubuntu caused requiremetn. |
| 12:40.34 | mjt | what's .img? :) |
| 12:41.12 | sjamaan | Thanks Walex, I found http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/ALSA/asound.conf through that page |
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| 12:41.42 | User1 | wood_quinn: your method seems to work |
| 12:41.48 | Walex | sjamaan: but that is not the right way to select a default card, it *must* be done with the module parameter. |
| 12:42.13 | sjamaan | Why is that? |
| 12:42.30 | Walex | sjamaan: because of the reason explained in http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksDefault |
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| 12:42.51 | Walex | sjamaan: the Linux kernel can in theory come up with a different sound card order on every boot. |
| 12:43.51 | sjamaan | Walex: For now this will do. I was unable to make it work through /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf |
| 12:43.52 | Walex | sjamaan: unless you assign manually that order with 'index=' in the driver module config. |
| 12:44.18 | sjamaan | This is a work box, so I don't really have the time to fiddle and reboot a lot |
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| 12:48.47 | Anarch | Where is the official documentation for installing from the livecd? <http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual> never mentions the livecd; I'm not looking for what that manual covers, but documentation of things like how run the launcher, preseeds, etc. |
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| 12:54.15 | wicket | So, I got some boot problems, grub cant find the root partition by uuid, nor by path (and im sure both of them are correct). An almost bigger problem is that im then left with an unusable initramfs, since no usb modules have been loaded, so i can\t type. |
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| 12:55.55 | wicket | I cant remember exactly what the message was, but something along the lines of modprobe: usbhid somethingsomething not found in modules.dep |
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| 12:56.12 | ankr | Is it possible to make an "inverted alias" in bash? I want to detect when someone writes "git add -A" and then execute "echo STOP!" instead. |
| 12:56.24 | Seidr | Hello, sorry another question RE adding routing during Debian installation. I've a debian dist that I'm trying to install, which is not letting me proceed without setting up the network adapter. In order to get the network adapter to work, I need to add a couple of default routes. I can get it to work if I CTRL+ALT+F2 and enter them using the 'ip' command, but as soon as I go and resume the netcfg dialog these routes are lost. |
| 12:56.26 | ankr | Mostly for trolling and proving a point.. |
| 12:57.02 | wood_quinn | Arroyo1010: The live images aren't officially supported. |
| 12:57.06 | Seidr | Any suggestions as to how I can proceed please? Do I need to recreate the ISO and add a preseed to add the routes (if that's possible)? Can I manually configure (and subsequently skip) the netcfg section of the installation? |
| 12:57.12 | wood_quinn | live.debian.net |
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| 13:02.04 | Bobby_Tables | hi, looking for someone who knows about samba/windows discovery, i cant seem to get it working. can post my conf if anyone wants to help |
| 13:02.08 | Bobby_Tables | ? |
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| 13:04.51 | CeBe | Bobby_Tables: what exactly is not working? |
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| 13:09.28 | CPR_Dummy | Bobby_Tables: Someone in #ubuntu knows I asked for you there |
| 13:11.15 | Seidr | Maybe a shorter version of my question..is it possible to set ifup on a specific interface via boot parameters in Debian? |
| 13:12.10 | Bobby_Tables | CPR_Dummy: cant se any answers there? |
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| 13:13.34 | Bobby_Tables | CeBe: i cant get the server discoverable from any host linux/windows. im using kerberos for auth with ldap. i have got it working with linux by accessing the server directly, but on windows i dont know how to do that, so i cant even test the kerberos stuff there |
| 13:13.51 | Bobby_Tables | CeBe: so step one for me is to get it discoverable. |
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| 13:15.02 | Bobby_Tables | here is the [global] conf as of now, it changes alot becues i test stuff http://pastebin.com/RNgcYsPg |
| 13:15.13 | CeBe | Bobby_Tables: are they in the same IP network? are there any routers or something in between? |
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| 13:17.13 | Bobby_Tables | CeBe: no, the server is on a different network. have opend the ports for netbios and cifs was about 4 different portnumbers |
| 13:18.06 | Bobby_Tables | server is on our "servernetwork" and im accessing from our "office network" |
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| 13:18.25 | CeBe | I have no idea whether there is a way to configure windows but somehow it must know about the server to be in a different network then |
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| 13:19.37 | Bobby_Tables | Ise. the server has a working fqdn. i can test and connect directly to that network. to the patchpanel i go.. |
| 13:19.51 | wood_quinn | Over the hills and through the woods? |
| 13:20.01 | Bobby_Tables | something like that |
| 13:20.03 | Bobby_Tables | xD |
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| 13:25.39 | nmschulte | I'm running Debian Sid (kernel 3.14+). When connecting to a WiFi network that supports both 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz connections (multiple APs with the same SSID, on both bands), how can I configure my hardware to e.g. prefer the 5 GHz connection? |
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| 13:27.05 | petn-randall | nmschulte: jessie/sid are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. Ask again there, all the other sid users hang out there :) |
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| 13:27.53 | nmschulte | petn-randall: bah, hehe; I figure this is applicable across kernels in unstable/stable, but sure, I can hop on over to OFTC. |
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| 13:29.17 | petn-randall | nmschulte: sid comes with a lot newer network-manager, I'm fairly sure you can't configure to prefer 5Ghz in wheezy's NM. |
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| 13:30.20 | Bobby_Tables | CeBe: i have return from the wasteland that is our networking closet |
| 13:31.23 | nmschulte | petn-randall: I don't see any way in NM on Sid (GNOME 3) to change this; my mind was jumping to CLI. Either way, I'm on #debian-next; we'll see where that goes. |
| 13:31.33 | CeBe | Bobby_Tables: lucky you made it :) |
| 13:31.34 | Bobby_Tables | CeBe: got it discovered when i connected a client to that net. should have tested that xD anyhow. now i atleast know the problem is with the firewall, or the winows host that cant discover on different ips |
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| 13:31.59 | Bobby_Tables | windows client* |
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| 13:32.21 | CeBe | firewall and windows is not a good combination as both do weird things at times |
| 13:32.44 | Bobby_Tables | the ubuntu machine should discover it i think. so there is some missing ports on the fw i think. there must be a way to connect directly like on linux clients |
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| 13:51.33 | zetheroo1 | what is the command to put a Debian machine into suspend mode? |
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| 13:53.39 | Nik05 | zetheroo1 cant your desktop manager do it? |
| 13:53.49 | zetheroo1 | no desktop installed |
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| 13:54.21 | Nik05 | zetheroo1 you can probably do it with pm-utils |
| 13:54.36 | zetheroo1 | is this usable in Wheezy: pmi action suspend |
| 13:54.37 | zetheroo1 | ? |
| 13:54.48 | skilz | Hey Im using Skype, but it doesn't detect my sound card, just says "Virtual Device" but it detects my webcam. |
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| 13:57.03 | Nik05 | zetheroo1 sorry no idea but doesnt pm-suspend work? |
| 13:57.19 | zetheroo1 | command not found |
| 13:57.29 | Nik05 | do you have pm-utils installed? |
| 13:57.36 | zetheroo1 | not sure ... checking |
| 13:58.05 | zetheroo1 | no it's not installed ... installing now |
| 13:58.29 | zetheroo1 | ok installed ... and now pm-suspend works |
| 13:58.47 | Nik05 | zetheroo1 and does it suspend? |
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| 13:59.26 | zetheroo1 | I get a black scree with a solitary blinking cursor in the upper-left corner of the screen |
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| 14:00.13 | zetheroo1 | yes, it seems to have suspended |
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| 14:00.23 | zetheroo1 | now I am seeing if it wakes ... |
| 14:00.23 | Nik05 | ok, does it also come out of suspending? :P |
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| 14:00.30 | Nik05 | hm you were first :P |
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| 14:01.15 | zetheroo1 | how long should it take to come out of suspend? |
| 14:01.23 | Nik05 | i have no idea |
| 14:01.42 | zetheroo1 | k, well it's not coming out ... |
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| 14:02.29 | Nik05 | skilz do you got audio firmware? |
| 14:02.35 | zetheroo1 | force reset to get the system back on |
| 14:02.40 | Nik05 | zetheroo1 thats too bad |
| 14:03.05 | zetheroo1 | no audio device (this is a VM) |
| 14:03.19 | jpinx | SynrGy: is there a fix for the eeepc ath9K isses with wicd in the eeepc's http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/84983 |
| 14:03.27 | Nik05 | zetheroo1 that was too skilz not to you ;) |
| 14:03.39 | zetheroo1 | ah sry |
| 14:03.59 | Nik05 | zetheroo1 check the log file to see what went wrong |
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| 14:04.14 | zetheroo1 | syslog? |
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| 14:04.38 | ocoxo | hello, I'm getting this error when trying to install liferea via git: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7700450/ I am not experienced with this method, what can I do to make it work? |
| 14:04.38 | Nik05 | maybe, maybe it has a seperate log |
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| 14:05.32 | Nik05 | ocoxo did you install build-essentials ? |
| 14:05.53 | Nik05 | and we dont really support that kind of installations |
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| 14:06.34 | Nik05 | ocoxo: apt-get install liferea |
| 14:06.37 | skilz | Nik05, What you mean? I'm watching a movie now in VLC and the audio works. |
| 14:06.43 | Nik05 | oh ok |
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| 14:07.50 | afidegnum | hello, please how do I find out about the port varnish is liestening to? |
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| 14:08.13 | ocoxo | nik05, I'm having a problem (actually problems, getting solved one at a time) with liferea in the repository..which is why I decided to install externally |
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| 14:11.09 | Nik05 | afidegnum i dont know much about this but does lsof -i give you the information you need? |
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| 14:11.33 | Markuss | hello, someone know something about lamp? i just need some support for debian 7 |
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| 14:11.44 | Nik05 | ocoxo whats the problem? |
| 14:12.02 | Nik05 | ocoxo there is also a liferea in wheezy-backport if you need a newer version |
| 14:12.42 | Nik05 | Markuss what do you need to know? |
| 14:13.24 | ocoxo | Nik05, I find the newsbin in liferea emptied at every restart, while in fact it needs to keep items even after its respective feed might be deleted |
| 14:14.05 | Markuss | Nik05, i just installed manually php5, mysql, apache and phpmyadmin |
| 14:14.23 | Markuss | i think everything is congurated good |
| 14:14.30 | Markuss | just read 2-3 online tutorials |
| 14:14.45 | Nik05 | ocoxo sorry i dont know what liferea is |
| 14:15.14 | Markuss | but when i'm trying to reach http://host/info.php or http://host/phpmyadmin doesen't work |
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| 14:15.50 | Markuss | this is my first experience with a server and i have no idea where the problem can be and how to fix that |
| 14:15.56 | ocoxo | liferea is the short for linux feed reader, it is a feed reader available in ubuntu repos. newsbin is like a reading list, where you collect interesting feed items |
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| 14:16.42 | Nik05 | afidegnum netstat is probably more useful |
| 14:16.50 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 14:17.16 | Nik05 | ocoxo are you running ubuntu? |
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| 14:19.17 | ocoxo | Nik05, yes |
| 14:19.36 | Nik05 | this channel is for debian not ubuntu -> #ubuntu |
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| 14:20.04 | ocoxo | Nik05, I know. but I thought people might be familiar with the question |
| 14:20.04 | afidegnum | hmm, anyone familiar with varnish? I can't find my head out |
| 14:20.04 | Markuss | Nik05, do you have some idea how can i fix that please? :\ |
| 14:20.04 | ocoxo | I mean my original question with git |
| 14:20.04 | Nik05 | Markuss what needs to be fixed? |
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| 14:20.09 | Markuss | <Markuss> Nik05, i just installed manually php5, mysql, apache and phpmyadmin |
| 14:20.09 | Markuss | <Markuss> i think everything is congurated good |
| 14:20.09 | Markuss | <Markuss> just read 2-3 online tutorials |
| 14:20.51 | Markuss | <Markuss> but when i'm trying to reach http://host/info.php or http://host/phpmyadmin doesen't work |
| 14:20.51 | some-cowbell | you should read the build instructions |
| 14:20.51 | Markuss | <Markuss> this is my first experience with a server and i have no idea where the problem can be and how to fix that |
| 14:20.51 | Nik05 | Markuss http://localhost what do you get? |
| 14:20.51 | Markuss | Nik05, It works! |
| 14:20.51 | Markuss | This is the default web page for this server. |
| 14:20.51 | Markuss | The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet. |
| 14:21.02 | some-cowbell | which should also have a list of the build requirements, which you ha ve to satisfy before it will build properly |
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| 14:27.08 | DineroxInternet | Alguien conoce a alguna persona que le gustaria ganar dinero por internet solo por navegar en paginas? no importa de que pais sean no es necesario invertir dinero - Anyone know someone who would like to earn money just by surfing on internet pages? no matter what country you are do not need to invest money - Alguém conhece alguém que gostaria de ganhar dinheiro apenas por navegar em páginas |
| 14:27.08 | DineroxInternet | da Internet? não importa em que país você está não precisa investir dinheiro - MAIL: negociosporinternet@telmexmail.com |
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| 14:28.12 | ocoxo | hello, I'm getting this error when trying to install liferea via git: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7700450/ I am not experienced with this method, what can I do to make it work? |
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| 14:29.14 | Nik05 | ocoxo you already asked this here |
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| 14:29.52 | ocoxo | Nik05, yes, but we talked about installing liferea |
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| 14:30.15 | Nik05 | yes but you are on ubuntu so we cant help you with that |
| 14:31.02 | ocoxo | Nik05, you mean this error is unknown to a debian user? |
| 14:31.25 | Nik05 | yes |
| 14:31.47 | Nik05 | but for compiling it yourself ask the makers of liferea |
| 14:32.05 | Nik05 | you dont have all build dependencies, so install those |
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| 14:35.43 | SirLagz | anyone know how to set the default ALSA capture device ? |
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| 14:38.12 | mrAZ | is looking for anybody experienced with supermicro ipmi security issue: http://threatpost.com/plaintext-supermicro-ipmi-credentials-exposed |
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| 14:53.01 | sque | Hi! I am trying to use gvfs (fuse) on jessie-amd64 with no luck. What is different from wheezy, is that there is no ~/.gvfs folder, there is no fuse group and if I drag and drop a folder from nautilus to shell it copies the full sftp://url rather than the fused path. gvfs-fuse is installed. Any idea? |
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| 14:54.31 | SirLagz | sque: jessie is supported on #debian-next on OFTC |
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| 14:55.24 | sque | SirLagz, "it says, Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." |
| 14:55.32 | SirLagz | sque: not on freenode, on OFTC |
| 14:55.36 | SirLagz | irc.oftc.net iirc |
| 14:55.42 | sque | oh! Ty! |
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| 14:55.53 | SirLagz | sque: no problems |
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| 14:58.03 | shay_shay | ocoxo: google apt-file |
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| 15:05.32 | pieeeerrre | hi |
| 15:05.41 | pieeeerrre | hi. I'm having trouble connecting my android phone (lg optimus) to my pc. lsusb doesn't list it. my dmesg is: http://pastebin.com/UYg0d4Sn does anyone know if the "USB disconnect" line is normal? where does it come from? why lsusb doesn't list my device please? thanks! |
| 15:05.56 | bazhang | pieeeerrre, using ubuntu? |
| 15:06.22 | pieeeerrre | hmm yeah^^ i need to switch to debian^^ |
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| 15:11.39 | SirLagz | should I use PulseAudio over plain ALSA ? |
| 15:11.40 | SirLagz | .win 22 |
| 15:11.43 | SirLagz | oops |
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| 15:17.32 | Pricey | My usb mic is extremely sensitive. Way too sensitive and I can't find a single slider/button in pavucontrol to tone it down. It's picking up keystrokes, people across the room etc. Any ideas? |
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| 15:19.03 | SirLagz | Pricey: alsamixer - F6 to select sound card - anything in there ? |
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| 15:21.20 | Pricey | SirLagz: after selecting the usb headset, only one slider beneath capture. No mic boost etc. Reducing it just reduces volume. |
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| 15:21.46 | SirLagz | ah |
| 15:21.50 | SirLagz | Pricey: no idea then, sorry |
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| 15:21.57 | Pricey | SirLagz: Thanks. |
| 15:22.16 | SirLagz | Pricey: I'm having the opposite issue at the moment, my mic just isn't working properly haha |
| 15:22.19 | SirLagz | stuupid ALSA |
| 15:22.36 | Artemis3 | Pricey, alsamixer f6 to choose right card, then f4 move the slider. also check rightmost for card options such as "mic boost" you might need to press space to turn off that |
| 15:22.56 | Pricey | Artemis3: no such option |
| 15:24.02 | Pricey | 3 sliders for my usb headset, headphone & mic under playback, mic under capture. |
| 15:24.24 | Artemis3 | why not move the "mic under capture" slider? |
| 15:25.09 | Pricey | If I lower that, it just reduces the volume of everything. Including the noise of me scratching my arm/tapping the keyboard. |
| 15:25.26 | Pricey | It's not this sensitive under windows so I'm sure there must be a tweakable somewhere.. |
| 15:26.28 | Artemis3 | in windows the driver might be doing some noisegate trick |
| 15:26.47 | Artemis3 | don't expect this option |
| 15:27.15 | Pricey | As in, has to be loud enough to turn it on?/ |
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| 15:27.47 | Artemis3 | unless you want to play with LADSPA thingies |
| 15:27.59 | Artemis3 | imo not worth it |
| 15:28.08 | Pricey | whoosh |
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| 15:28.39 | Artemis3 | keyboard noise ain't that important |
| 15:29.05 | Pricey | It's annoying my manager ;) |
| 15:30.02 | Artemis3 | yes the noisegate does precisely that. you could apply it later if not realtime, things like mumble had it built in or option |
| 15:30.42 | Pricey | Thanks, I'll look into that. |
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| 15:31.27 | Artemis3 | there is a way to apply filters realtime, i use an eq for pulseaudio but its not simple, there are guides somewhere |
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| 15:32.52 | wjtaylor | How do I find which application is sending sound to my speakers? |
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| 15:36.18 | Artemis3 | wjtaylor, fuser -v /dev/snd/* |
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| 15:36.45 | SirLagz | hmm i might need to try using pulseaudio and see if that helps =/ |
| 15:36.48 | wjtaylor | Artemis3: awesome Thanks! |
| 15:37.02 | SirLagz | still can't work out how to set a default capture device when I select 'ALSA Default Device' |
| 15:37.06 | jaybe | good day. some advice please on how to go about fixing an issue. downgraded vps plans and upon rebooting wheezy, received fsck errors/issues. repaired those; had many inode inconsistencies, etc. now i can not execute many binary files, such as `apt-get`. receive: "unable to execute binary file". another example of issue - also getting "invalid ELF header" for operations. |
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| 15:37.23 | formorer | get yourself a backup |
| 15:37.31 | SirLagz | jaybe: tell the VPS provider to fix it |
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| 15:45.10 | SirLagz | and now after i've installed pulseaudio, sound is broken. |
| 15:45.11 | SirLagz | dammit |
| 15:45.25 | floyin | SirLagz: I really dislike pulseaudio |
| 15:45.32 | SirLagz | floyin: so do i |
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| 15:45.42 | SirLagz | floyin: but I wanted to get my microphone working |
| 15:45.49 | floyin | I havent gotten it to play nice with anything |
| 15:46.00 | SirLagz | and wahey, Stupid thing was muted |
| 15:46.19 | floyin | What's the issue with the mic? Just cant get it set as the default capture device? |
| 15:46.20 | SirLagz | and now my microphone works ! woohoo |
| 15:46.24 | SirLagz | floyin: pretty much yeah |
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| 15:46.55 | SirLagz | floyin: ALSA Default was the only device I could select in Linphone |
| 15:47.10 | SirLagz | floyin: and I couldn't get any sort of sound with ALSA's default device |
| 15:47.34 | SirLagz | and now I can't open linphone after installing pulseaudio lol |
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| 15:48.10 | SirLagz | seg fault...hmm |
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| 15:48.56 | floyin | For me, in the capture section of alsamixer I can move left and right on line, front mic and rear mic. Space would then select one of them as the default |
| 15:49.03 | SirLagz | hmm |
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| 15:49.40 | floyin | It then moves the word CAPTURE to what's selected |
| 15:49.41 | SirLagz | floyin: what's it look like when one of them is selected as default ? |
| 15:49.51 | SirLagz | floyin: I had that already and it didn't seem to work =/ |
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| 15:53.12 | floyin | I've never used linphone so I don't know if there's a way to point to specific devices. |
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| 15:53.22 | SirLagz | floyin: nope. Just ALSA Default device |
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| 15:54.10 | floyin | That seems strange to me. I have that option in mumble, but I also have the option to select like HW0.0 (or similar) and point it directly to LINE or MIC |
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| 15:54.33 | floyin | Wish I could be of more help. |
| 15:54.41 | SirLagz | floyin: no problems |
| 15:55.02 | SirLagz | floyin: Steam has the same ability too. dunno whats with alsa =/ |
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| 15:55.34 | floyin | does it also not work in steam? misbehaving system-wide? |
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| 15:58.29 | SirLagz | floyin: works in steam because I can point it directly to an input and not to the default device |
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| 15:58.40 | nell | should i erase / delete partition with lvm crypt before dd'ing a backup lvmcrypt onto it? |
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| 15:59.26 | kdub_ | how do libs get into /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu? I can't seem to coax cmake into installing there |
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| 16:02.57 | SynrGy | jpinx: eh? you link to an old patch to the kernel. how is that a wicd issue? |
| 16:03.17 | frostschutz | nell, overwriting twice is pointless if that is what you are asking |
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| 16:06.09 | SynrGy | jpinx: "issues with wicd" is not very descriptive, and the linked article doesn't seem to have anything to do with it, so i need a better problem description :) |
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| 16:07.13 | SynrGy | as for specifically wicd vs. alternatives, I've been recommending either NM or directly use wpasupplicant, whichever matches your needs better. wicd was sold as a "light" alternative to NM (it isn't, really, when you measure memory footprint of the bloated python) |
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| 16:07.46 | SynrGy | at one point in its history, wicd was slightly ahead on features, an advantage that was completely erased by the release of a better NM in wheezy. |
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| 16:08.10 | SynrGy | (cleaner UI, more reliable in all the corner cases, etc.) |
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| 16:11.26 | jmcnaught | nell: you disappeared lastnight before i could answer your question about the network connection you were unsure of. As far as I could tell, it was your Tor daemon connecting to the remote IP's port 443. Also running an nmap portscan on the remote IP is probably not a very friendly thing to do |
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| 16:12.30 | nell | isn't it weird that it has a persistent connection at startup? |
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| 16:12.50 | petn-randall | ghoti: hello fish |
| 16:13.15 | jmcnaught | nell: you probably have Tor running at start up, and it connects to the Tor network. If you're unfamiliar with how Tor works, maybe you should stop using it or learn more about it. |
| 16:13.46 | nell | I have tor running at startup yes and I done tons of reading on it, everything i can get |
| 16:13.58 | petn-randall | nell: That's what Tor does, it creates several "loops" to anonymize any connections going throught hat proxy. |
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| 16:14.15 | nell | its the same IP everytime |
| 16:14.34 | nell | tor can change identities, a persistent identity makes no sense |
| 16:15.06 | petn-randall | nell: The loops should be changing every 10 minutes by default. However, the initial list of nodes is also provided by https. |
| 16:15.23 | nell | is there a list of those nodes on the client |
| 16:15.35 | nell | I added the IP to my hosts.deny for now out of concerns |
| 16:15.43 | nell | but im still curious |
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| 16:16.39 | petn-randall | nell: If you don't understand what it does, blacklisting hosts will likely break it and may even decrease its anonymity. |
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| 16:23.12 | okee | What is the command for removing a repo? |
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| 16:24.34 | Walex | okee: 'vim' for example |
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| 16:25.07 | mtn | okee: use an editor or synaptic |
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| 16:25.29 | floyin | okee: you can edit the sources.list in /etc/apt/ or there may be an entry in /etc/apt/source.list.d/ |
| 16:25.53 | okee | Walex> I obtained the repo names with sudo apt-cache policy. The problem is that the repo name is wrong for Wuala, and showing up as an error when running update. I am not sure how to get rid of it. |
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| 16:37.30 | okee | floyd> There was no entry in sources.list, but there was an entry in sources.list.d/wuala.list I deleted that, but now wondering how to add the correct entry. I was told the correct repo is https://cdn.wuala.com/repo/deb/wuala_current_amd64.deb |
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| 16:41.37 | floyin | that could be a .deb that contains the repo information. you may just be able to download that and install it with dpkg |
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| 16:42.55 | floyin | or it is the whole thing |
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| 16:50.47 | SynrGy | floyin: whatever it is, it seems to be hosted on dialup :p |
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| 16:51.18 | floyin | SynrGy: trying to dl it to see? |
| 16:51.42 | SynrGy | yeah. taking forever (well, 80KB/s is better than dialup, but not by much) |
| 16:51.50 | floyin | It does seem that it is the whole package for whatever wuala is and that it also registers the repo for further updates |
| 16:52.14 | SynrGy | i don't see any metadata hosted there for a repo, tho :p |
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| 16:52.56 | floyin | what do you mean by metadata in this case? |
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| 16:53.18 | SynrGy | Packages file, etc. |
| 16:53.36 | floyin | Ah. I just saw the he had an entry in source.list.d |
| 16:53.45 | SynrGy | formerly |
| 16:53.50 | SynrGy | looks like a step backwards |
| 16:53.52 | floyin | haha, right |
| 16:53.56 | okee | Does Anyone understand how to add the Wuala AMD 64 repository based on information found here -->http://wuala.com/en/download/linux |
| 16:54.01 | dimitry7 | Hi guys. I have two Internet links with public IPs in serveral branches. I did a failover script so that one one goes down the second one goes up as default route. I monitor backups doing $ ping -I eth2 8.8.8.8 .... and all of my servers do ping that way through the backup interface... but I have one server that does not. It is online because I can ping google if I add it as default route. Any ideas for $ ping -I to work?? |
| 16:54.06 | SynrGy | maybe the one guy who knew how to do a repo left and is replaced in the company by someone stupider? |
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| 16:54.15 | SynrGy | if so, not a ringing endorsement for this software. |
| 16:56.01 | dimitry7 | I got disconnected a while... couldnt see if anyone replied. Thanks. |
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| 16:56.43 | Brigo | dimitry7, nodoby replies still. |
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| 16:57.48 | SynrGy | floyin: the deb still contains the sources.list.d entry pointing at the obsolete repo for lenny and squeeze, not updated since last year :( |
| 16:58.02 | tharkun | dimitry7: ip route ls and mtr -r is your friend. |
| 16:58.18 | dimitry7 | Brigo, thank you! |
| 16:58.24 | SynrGy | okee: get better instructions from upstream. that's not a repo. it's just a link to a deb. |
| 16:58.31 | dimitry7 | tharkun, okay let me see |
| 16:58.32 | floyin | SynrGy: Well, I guess that would do it. |
| 16:58.36 | SynrGy | okee: and that deb only contains a pointer to an obsolete repo ... |
| 16:58.46 | SynrGy | okee: so installing it will *re* install the file you just removed |
| 16:58.51 | Brigo | dimitry7, did you known about device bonding? |
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| 16:59.20 | SynrGy | okee: that is, they don't really support debian properly, and cause problems for all debian users until they provide a fix. |
| 16:59.24 | dimitry7 | Brigo, yes. But in that case I will have two physical interfaces for the same IP. |
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| 16:59.56 | SynrGy | okee: i'm serious when I say: |
| 16:59.59 | SynrGy | 13:54 < SynrGy> maybe the one guy who knew how to do a repo left and is replaced in the company by someone stupider? |
| 17:00.05 | SynrGy | it looks exactly like this. :p |
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| 17:00.19 | okee | SynrGy> That is what I thought. Supposedly this company has good reviews for encryption, but the commands they have been sending me for removing repos doesn't sound like it is coming from someone knowledgeable in Linux. |
| 17:00.36 | SynrGy | okee: i have my doubts |
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| 17:01.33 | okee | SynrGy> I have my doubts to. Initially this was free, and now they are charging all new clients. I am grandfathered in, but find the software too problematic. Ok for web upload, and that is about it. |
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| 17:05.55 | luist_ | hey guys… i want to generate a deb package… i have a .debian.diff.gz and a .dsc already… what should i do next? |
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| 17:06.42 | dimitry7 | Brigo, but ping -I needs to be working |
| 17:06.44 | dimitry7 | and it does not. |
| 17:07.03 | dimitry7 | why? I have configured like 10 servers like this, and only two have this problem |
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| 17:08.16 | Brigo | dimitry7, iptables issue? |
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| 17:09.34 | aleandros | Hi people! First time here! I have a question regarding startup service orders. I have three LSB scripts (say, A, B and C) and I need them to start in that order. I assume this should be in the Required-Start field of the LSBScript header, but I'm not sure I'm using the correct syntax. Any advice? Thanks! |
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| 17:10.57 | dimitry7 | Brigo, I thought that, bring IP tables down for a while but still the same. |
| 17:11.54 | Brigo | try, then to ping the next node, por example the next router. |
| 17:12.03 | Brigo | may be a route problem. |
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| 17:12.53 | Brigo | i must go now, sorry |
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| 17:18.03 | jpinx | SynrGy: ok - I installed network manager and it "just works" (tm) |
| 17:18.36 | jpinx | sorry for the late reply - thanks for the pointer ;) |
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| 17:18.44 | SynrGy | jpinx: great :) |
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| 17:19.04 | jpinx | now I can undo my usb0 interface |
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| 17:23.32 | dimitry7 | Brigo, I can ping that link router |
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| 17:43.45 | Lumiere | Hello, Do you think that the Gonomad tablet (http://www.dx.com/p/gonomad-p702a-7-action-7013-android-4-1-tablet-pc-w-512mb-ram-4gb-rom-black-295052) can be flashed with a debian system ? |
| 17:44.18 | Technodrome | does sendmail or postfix or exim4 have logs that can record every an entry for each time a mail goes out? |
| 17:44.22 | Technodrome | this is not default right? |
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| 17:46.57 | jhutchins | Technodrome: It is the default for all three. |
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| 17:47.17 | Technodrome | where is the mail logs stored at? |
| 17:47.34 | formorer | depends on your mailserver |
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| 17:50.38 | Lumiere | Is there any tutorial or such that could help flashing a tablet, to get debian ? |
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| 17:53.47 | telmich | good day |
| 17:54.15 | telmich | I try to insatll libssl-dev on a fresh wheezy system and get this error: |
| 17:54.17 | telmich | libssl-dev : Depends: libssl1.0.0 (= 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7) but 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11 is to be installed |
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| 17:54.43 | telmich | I ran apt-get update already, but even then trying to install libssl-dev requires this old version |
| 17:54.49 | telmich | anyone an idea what I may be doing wrong? |
| 17:55.01 | telmich | I use http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/ as the mirror |
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| 17:57.17 | SynrGy | telmich: you previously had security enabled and now don't? |
| 17:57.29 | SynrGy | ,v libssl1.0.0 |
| 17:57.30 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on i386 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11; jessie: 1.0.1h-3; sid: 1.0.1h-3; experimental: 1.0.2~beta1-1 |
| 17:57.35 | SynrGy | ,v libssl-dev |
| 17:57.36 | judd | Package: libssl-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security-lts: 0.9.8o-4squeeze16; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11; jessie: 1.0.1h-3; sid: 1.0.1h-3; experimental: 1.0.2~beta1-1 |
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| 17:57.45 | telmich | SynrGy: it is completly fresh and I have wheezy-updates enabled, too |
| 17:57.54 | SynrGy | telmich: wheezy-security has matching package versions |
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| 17:58.45 | telmich | SynrGy: alright, I thought these were included in wheezy-updates |
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| 17:59.17 | SynrGy | !wheezy sources.list |
| 17:59.17 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
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| 17:59.48 | SynrGy | telmich: note 'wheezy/updates' (from security.d.o) is not 'wheezy-updates' (formerly known as 'volatile') |
| 18:00.01 | ShalokShalom | :) |
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| 18:00.11 | ShalokShalom | can i report a packaging issue here ? |
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| 18:00.31 | Brigo | ShalokShalom, no, use the bug track system, please |
| 18:00.39 | ShalokShalom | i am a ubuntu user |
| 18:00.50 | ShalokShalom | is there a dev channel for debian ? |
| 18:00.52 | SynrGy | ShalokShalom: then use the ubuntu bug tracking system, please, and see #ubuntu |
| 18:00.57 | ShalokShalom | ah |
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| 18:01.26 | Brigo | ShalokShalom, there is a package for that, reportbug |
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| 18:02.13 | jhutchins | Technodrome: Generally logs are in /var/log/ - maillog, mail.log, etc. Debian exim4 puts them in /var/log/exim4/main.log and others. |
| 18:02.27 | jhutchins | Technodrome: It's configurable. |
| 18:02.31 | Technodrome | well this is a redhat / plesk machine |
| 18:02.36 | Technodrome | so who knows where they are tucked away! |
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| 18:04.08 | jhutchins | Technodrome: Even more likely to be /var/log/maillog, redhat has a channel, as do centos and fedora (which might be more helpful). |
| 18:05.25 | jhutchins | Technodrome: redhat is #rhel |
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| 18:06.51 | Inominat | How to install a libpackagekit? Please help me! |
| 18:07.10 | nzerob | Inominat: apt-get install libpackagekit |
| 18:07.26 | Inominat | I try to install the intel HD 4400 driver on a debian with an upgraded kernel to 3.12.X |
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| 18:07.59 | jhutchins | Inominat: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
| 18:08.26 | Inominat | <jhutchins> wisper |
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| 18:11.53 | Inominat | I try to install intel-linux-graphics-installer_1.0.5-0intel1_amd64.deb on debian wheeze with a kernel 3.12.X but the dependancies like libglib2.0-udeb_2.38.0-1ubuntu1_amd64.udeb could not be autoinstallt with apt-get -f install. for this reason i try to install them manually but i struggle! (How to wisper back?) |
| 18:12.57 | petern_ | .. |
| 18:13.02 | petern_ | Debian is not Ubuntu. |
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| 18:13.23 | petern_ | Installing Ubuntu packages on Wheezy is not going to end up in anything good. |
| 18:13.47 | Inominat | @peter do you have an idea how i could get the intel driver running? |
| 18:13.54 | jmcnaught | Inominat: it looks like the intel-graphics...deb file you have is compiled for Ubuntu. Also where did you get your 3.12 kernerl for wheezy? |
| 18:13.55 | Inominat | for the HD 4400? |
| 18:14.27 | jhutchins | Inominat: Even if you suceed in installing ubuntu packages on debian things will break. |
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| 18:15.07 | petern_ | Hopefully the 3.12 kernel came from wheezy-backports, but... :S |
| 18:15.12 | Inominat | yes |
| 18:15.14 | Inominat | it does |
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| 18:16.00 | Inominat | I'm a noob at this stuff... to be honest if you have a best practise link for "how to install and troubleshoot drivers" in debian... |
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| 18:16.41 | petern_ | Step 1: Drivers are most likely included in Debian. |
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| 18:17.16 | jhutchins | Inominat: http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 18:17.54 | jhutchins | Inominat: There are over 30,000 packages available within the debian repositories. It is best to try to use those packages first. |
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| 18:18.22 | jhutchins | Inominat: It is rarely necessary to use external packages, and there is usually a better solution when that seems like a good idea. |
| 18:19.04 | jhutchins | Inominat: Which chipset do you have? lspci -nn should show the pciid. |
| 18:20.30 | jhutchins | Inominat: We prefer to keep troubleshooting and assistance public. That way other people can benefit and contribute (like pointing out when I get things wrong). |
| 18:21.03 | Inominat | ok |
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| 18:21.17 | Inominat | i have this one 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 0b) |
| 18:21.28 | Inominat | its a HD 4400 integrated grafic |
| 18:21.31 | MACscr | so im installing debian using pxe and a preseed template, etc. Im not installing LVM, but i am double checking that the storage doesnt have any logical volumes setup, etc and if so, destroying them. Unfortunately during the install a warning is given about the kernel not support lvm and i have to press continue to continue. Unfortunately i dont know how to fetch those type of dbconf prompts that h |
| 18:21.31 | MACscr | appen during an install |
| 18:21.55 | jhutchins | Inominat: Intel drivers are usually automatically installed - why do you think you need something else? What symptoms? |
| 18:21.58 | MACscr | seems the dbconf utilities only capture after the os is installed? |
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| 18:23.49 | jmcnaught | judd: pciid 8086:0a16 |
| 18:23.50 | judd | [8086:0a16] is 'Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0a16 |
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| 18:25.13 | Inominat | @jhutchins it doesent detect the displays and is not possible to have a second display running on hdmi or minidiplayport |
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| 18:25.31 | Inominat | it mirrors the screen with the desktop resolution |
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| 18:26.20 | jmcnaught | Inominat: that is more likely a configuration issue than something that would be resolved by installing a package you find some random place on the internet |
| 18:27.03 | Inominat | i agree on this point, and I stop now with this "trying to install the driver from intel for ubuntu ;)" |
| 18:27.54 | jhutchins | Inominat: Is it an intel motherboard? |
| 18:27.55 | Inominat | so as far as i see at http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0a16 there is no specific supported driver. I guess i run at the moment the generic intel driver |
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| 18:28.33 | SynrGy | ,pciid 8086:0a16 --release jessie |
| 18:28.34 | judd | [8086:0a16] is 'Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'i915', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0a16 |
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| 18:28.56 | Inominat | Its an dell Latitude E7440 |
| 18:28.57 | jhutchins | Judd only knows about kernel drivers, not x drivers. |
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| 18:29.26 | Inominat | ohh soo if i take jessie - is there already an experimantel build? - i will be fine? |
| 18:29.27 | SynrGy | i.e. jessie's i915 supports it. wheezy's doesn't |
| 18:29.30 | SynrGy | use a backport here |
| 18:29.47 | Inominat | backport to the intel driver? how to? |
| 18:30.01 | SynrGy | !bpo kernel |
| 18:30.01 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 18:30.02 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 18:30.02 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.15-trunk-686-pae (3.15.1-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.7-1); jessie: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.7-1); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.14.7-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 18:30.56 | Inominat | allright, i try the new jessie kernel. you are a great all help! Thank you :) |
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| 18:31.56 | jhutchins | Inominat: Try the wheezy-backports kernel first. |
| 18:32.01 | jhutchins | Inominat: Don't mix releases. |
| 18:32.25 | jhutchins | Inominat: If you really need a jessie or sid package on wheezy there are procedures for backporting it so it doesn't break anything. |
| 18:32.45 | Inominat | Ok, at the moment I run the backport kernel: 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 and it is not working |
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| 18:33.10 | Cpuroast | no need for the jessie kernel |
| 18:33.16 | Cpuroast | 3.14.7 has been backported |
| 18:33.18 | Cpuroast | to wheezy |
| 18:33.40 | jhutchins | Inominat: It's probably the newer xorg driver you need then. |
| 18:34.01 | Inominat | What is my next step to get the intel driver installed and running? How I check my current xorg driver build? |
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| 18:34.38 | jhutchins | ,versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 18:34.39 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on i386 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b1; sid: 2:2.21.15-2+b1; experimental: 2:2.99.912-1~exp1 |
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| 18:35.11 | jhutchins | !ssb |
| 18:35.12 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 18:35.28 | Inominat | I'm running Version: 1:7.7+3~deb7u1 xorg |
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| 18:36.56 | SynrGy | Inominat: i believe there is no solution for you |
| 18:37.00 | SynrGy | not in wheezy |
| 18:37.14 | jhutchins | SynrGy: Backport xserver-xorg-video-intel |
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| 18:41.28 | Inominat | So the solution is jessie? |
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| 18:43.20 | Inominat | @dpkg i checked debian-backports they indeed delivere something but how to install the 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2 build? i thought i do this: apt-get install -t squeeze-backports xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all after adding deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main to /etc/apt/source.list |
| 18:44.23 | Inominat | but this happens: xorg is already the newest version. xorg set to manually installed. xserver-xorg is already the newest version. xserver-xorg set to manually installed. xserver-xorg-input-all is already the newest version. xserver-xorg-input-all set to manually installed. xserver-xorg-video-all is already the newest version. xserver-xorg-video-all set to manually installed. xserver-xorg-core is already the newest version. xserver- |
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| 18:46.18 | Nik05 | Inominat dpkg is a bot |
| 18:46.26 | Inominat | ohh... |
| 18:46.33 | Inominat | Could you help me out? |
| 18:46.57 | Inominat | + |
| 18:47.20 | Inominat | Or jhutchins do you have an additional idea? |
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| 18:50.47 | KjetilK | I had a kernel oops last night: http://pastebin.com/X2pMZxdY |
| 18:51.09 | Brigo | Inominat, jhutchins told about Backport xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 18:51.09 | KjetilK | anybody here have any idea what could cause this...? |
| 18:51.32 | Inominat | @Brigo and i checked it out. |
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| 18:52.38 | Brigo | Inominat, i do not know about what do you need. |
| 18:53.03 | Inominat | I have a dell latitude E7440 and like to have the HD 4400 grafics running |
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| 18:53.43 | Brigo | Inominat, and you need i915 module for your graphic, don't you? |
| 18:53.52 | Inominat | yes |
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| 18:54.01 | Inominat | But I have no clue how to get it. |
| 18:54.14 | Brigo | i think you already have it in kernel |
| 18:54.15 | jrb | Hi! |
| 18:54.37 | Inominat | I run at the moment 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 18:54.52 | Brigo | like me |
| 18:54.59 | Inominat | Yea grafic works so far, but I'm unable to detect f.e. an hdmi connected monitor |
| 18:55.04 | Brigo | if you run modinfo i915 |
| 18:55.21 | Inominat | modinfo? |
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| 18:55.45 | jmcnaught | KjetilK: i'm not sure what caused it, it looks like it happened right after your backupninja cron job which might be a clue. Also there might be kernel updates... on Wheezy I have 3.2.57-3+deb7u2 but it looks like you have 3.2.54. Also we prefer http://paste.debian.net :) |
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| 18:56.13 | Brigo | Inominat, f.e.? |
| 18:56.15 | Inominat | kmod version 9 |
| 18:56.21 | jrb | I install a debian jessie and the dvd device not mount after inicialization of sistem, onli mont automatic im inicial entering KDE. |
| 18:56.22 | Inominat | for example |
| 18:56.26 | Inominat | p.e. ? per example? |
| 18:56.30 | Inominat | yea sry for this |
| 18:57.10 | Brigo | Inominat, that should be why jhutchins told about x-server-driver |
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| 18:57.20 | Brigo | ,v xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 18:57.21 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on i386 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b1; sid: 2:2.21.15-2+b1; experimental: 2:2.99.912-1~exp1 |
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| 18:58.41 | Inominat | ok. :) i tried to install it with pt-get install -t squeeze-backports xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all |
| 18:58.52 | Inominat | but failed with "already installed" |
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| 18:59.34 | sevenfourk | hi fellas. anyone using iceweasel Version: 29.0.1-2 and vimperator, does the IGNORE/INSERT mode line is shown for you ? |
| 19:00.01 | Inominat | @judd just help me to roll out the package please |
| 19:00.17 | KjetilK | jmcnaught, yeah, I noticed the backupninja |
| 19:00.32 | KjetilK | perhaps I should be updating my kernel |
| 19:01.11 | KjetilK | the thing with backupninja is that I installed it but never got around to configure it, so I'm guessing it is a different nightly cron job |
| 19:01.12 | Brigo | Inominat, are you in squeeze?? |
| 19:01.20 | Inominat | @Brigo yes |
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| 19:01.35 | Brigo | Inominat, judd is a bot, like dpkg |
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| 19:01.43 | Inominat | danmit*2 |
| 19:01.52 | Inominat | but a nice bot :D |
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| 19:02.03 | Brigo | very usefull :) |
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| 19:03.07 | Inominat | @Brigo how you got your jessie running? |
| 19:03.10 | Brigo | Inominat, i think you could try to backpor the sid or jessy driver, but i am not sure if they are responsibles of hdmi support |
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| 19:03.29 | Brigo | Inominat, updating from wheezy |
| 19:03.35 | Inominat | yes |
| 19:03.38 | Inominat | Howto? |
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| 19:03.45 | Inominat | well GIYF right? :D |
| 19:03.53 | Brigo | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:03.59 | Brigo | GIYF ? :) |
| 19:04.19 | Brigo | Inominat, i am spanish, with little english skills :) |
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| 19:05.42 | Inominat | ok, i try further tomorrow! Thanks for your help :) |
| 19:05.47 | Inominat | thanks jessie! |
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| 19:06.42 | Brigo | google is you friend. of course i found it in google :) |
| 19:07.00 | Inominat | :D haha yes! |
| 19:07.07 | Inominat | Thanks Birgo! :) |
| 19:07.10 | KjetilK | ah, I guess I forgot rebooting after the last kernel upgrade... I guess this was the old kernel's way of reminding me ;-) |
| 19:10.01 | jhutchins | !es |
| 19:10.02 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 19:11.11 | markv | Hi |
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| 19:33.17 | AL13N_ | i have a serious problem during upgrade of a lenny to squeeze (lts) |
| 19:33.27 | AL13N_ | the upgrade broke with the ldap server |
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| 19:34.18 | AL13N_ | this is the output: http://pastebin.com/5X5vkh5h |
| 19:34.47 | AL13N_ | pls can anyone help? this is an upgrade of a production server during a maintenance window |
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| 19:35.29 | AL13N_ | i'm worried about "Loading the database from the LDIF dump failed" |
| 19:35.48 | AL13N_ | should it have taken an ldif dump at some point? |
| 19:35.54 | AL13N_ | i didn't see any such steps |
| 19:36.03 | AL13N_ | anyone? |
| 19:36.45 | AL13N_ | can anyone help me find the code for the upgrade path so that i may check, retrace steps and complete them? |
| 19:37.14 | AL13N_ | does anyone know where i can find the code to the scripts of upgrading packages? |
| 19:37.21 | AL13N_ | openldap in this case? |
| 19:37.32 | AL13N_ | would this be details in the source package? |
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| 19:45.58 | jhutchins | AL13N_: Roll back to the backup you made before you upgraded a production server. |
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| 19:47.23 | jhutchins | AL13N_: Replicate the old server on a text box or VM and step through the update one package at a time, paying attention to the on-screen messages. You might just need to back up the ldap database and restore it after the upgrade. |
| 19:47.48 | jhutchins | AL13N_: The scripts that perform the upgrade should be in the binary deb package. |
| 19:49.19 | luist_ | hey guys… can i run such commands in postinst when creating a new deb package? http://paste.ofcode.org/ycbXvi9DNjjv8kXjB77VyX |
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| 19:59.28 | c_cinq | i cannot mount dvd+r dl disks. what should i look for to diagnose this problem? |
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| 20:03.18 | Brigo | c_cinq, you can mount it or it does not automount? |
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| 20:05.53 | c_cinq | Brigo, both |
| 20:06.39 | c_cinq | Brigo, I can not mount; debian does not automount |
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| 20:08.19 | Brigo | c_cinq, how do you try to mount it? |
| 20:08.19 | jhutchins | c_cinq: Is it possible they're not compatible with your drive? |
| 20:08.35 | jhutchins | c_cinq: What do you mean by "dl disks"? |
| 20:08.41 | jhutchins | c_cinq: Dual Layer? |
| 20:09.49 | c_cinq | Brigo, mount /media/cdrom0 |
| 20:10.04 | c_cinq | it is in /etc/fstab |
| 20:10.33 | Brigo | c_cinq, not enough, try mount /media/cdrom0 /mnt , for example |
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| 20:10.58 | jhutchins | c_cinq: Let us know what it says. |
| 20:11.12 | c_cinq | jhutchins: yes, Dual Layer. it can it on the drive |
| 20:12.15 | jhutchins | c_cinq: What wrote these disks? What's on them? |
| 20:12.17 | c_cinq | Brigo: shouldnt i try /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 -t udf |
| 20:13.19 | Brigo | sorry, /media/cdrom0 is a directory. I am out |
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| 20:13.33 | c_cinq | jhutchins: a mac burned a bunch of files on the disk |
| 20:14.08 | Brigo | c_cinq, try better mount -t auto /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 (if media/cdrom0 exists) |
| 20:14.38 | jhutchins | c_cinq: Mount usually likes the type before the device. Again, please post the output. |
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| 20:20.04 | c_cinq | mount -t auto /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 |
| 20:20.05 | c_cinq | mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 20:20.07 | c_cinq | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
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| 20:22.14 | c_cinq | now i tried it like this |
| 20:22.19 | c_cinq | mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 |
| 20:22.19 | c_cinq | mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 20:22.19 | c_cinq | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, |
| 20:22.21 | c_cinq | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.22 | c_cinq | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.00 | c_cinq | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:25.00 | c_cinq | dmesg tells me |
| 20:25.00 | c_cinq | [ 5107.942144] UDF-fs: warning (device sr0): udf_load_vrs: No VRS found |
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| 20:25.00 | c_cinq | [ 5107.942155] UDF-fs: warning (device sr0): udf_fill_super: No partition found |
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| 20:25.58 | jhutchins | c_cinq: I haven't worked back-and-forth with CDRW and Macs, but I know that when Windows uses a CDRW to write individual files, you hvae to close/finalise the disc before it can be read on another machine. Sounds like something similar might be happening. |
| 20:26.16 | jhutchins | !paste |
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| 20:26.51 | c_cinq | jhutchins: thanks anyway |
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| 20:37.56 | AL13N_ | jhutchins: i ended up grapping the ldif from the backup before the upgrade, placing it in that location, and redoing the dist-upgrade... that at least finished the upgrade, even though it failed to start due to the new slapd.d stuff, so i removed it, used the old config file and then was able to start openldap |
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| 20:38.59 | AL13N_ | the next thing is the dependency based boot sequence, it fails with: insserv: warning: script 'S25libdevmapper1.02' missing LSB tags and overrides, insserv: warning: script 'libdevmapper1.02' missing LSB tags and overrides |
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| 20:39.25 | AL13N_ | that looks like it might be a bug, but then since this is from lenny to squeeze upgrade... i doubt this'll ever get fixed :-) |
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| 20:41.28 | jhutchins | AL13N_: Yeah, lenny->squeeze is hard to resolve now that they're both out of maintenance. |
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| 20:42.12 | AL13N_ | jhutchins: exactly |
| 20:42.29 | jhutchins | AL13N_: I still have two to do :-(. |
| 20:42.33 | AL13N_ | jhutchins: still, this is something that needs to be done, since squeeze still has lts |
| 20:42.58 | AL13N_ | in companies, you can't just upgrade everything immediately, nor do you want to |
| 20:43.11 | AL13N_ | jhutchins: btw: any idea what this libdevmapper does? |
| 20:43.14 | AL13N_ | do i even need this? |
| 20:43.34 | Shadow_7 | apt-cache show libdevmapper |
| 20:43.35 | jhutchins | AL13N_: Yeah, but you can't let it go forever either. libdevmapper works with things like lvm, iscsi and raid. |
| 20:43.36 | AL13N_ | i figured this was about dm-raid stuff? |
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| 20:43.50 | jhutchins | Yup. |
| 20:44.19 | AL13N_ | jhutchins: this is a xen paravirtual environment, so there is only sda and sdb, no lvm, raid or storage options whatsoever |
| 20:44.27 | AL13N_ | sounds like i could remove it easily |
| 20:44.55 | jhutchins | AL13N_: If you try it, we'll all know for sure. |
| 20:45.10 | AL13N_ | even that's not correct, since i only have sda1 not sda... |
| 20:45.56 | Shadow_7 | Any known bugs about faceName fonts for arm / armel flavors? I can use xls names for things like xterm if I compile one. But -face for xclock fails to comply |
| 20:46.13 | jhutchins | AL13N_: If you do need it you need to figure out where to get a fixed init script, or fix it yourself - add the lsb stanzas per the example template in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 20:46.43 | AL13N_ | also these autoremove packages is it safe to delete those? libts-0.0-0 python2.5-minimal ttf-dejavu-extra libmysqlclient15off g++-4.3 libmpfr1ldbl python2.5 libdirectfb-1.0-0 gobjc-4.3 libstdc++6-4.3-dev ttf-dejavu x11-common libdb4.5 libsysfs2 libpq5 libmhash2 mysql-common libltdl3 |
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| 20:46.56 | jhutchins | Shadow_7: Sometimes they strip out options for small form architectures. |
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| 20:47.24 | Shadow_7 | jhutchins: the apt-get source versions too? |
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| 20:47.58 | jhutchins | Shadow_7: With no actual knowledge of the situation, that may be where they stripped it. |
| 20:48.08 | bseekins | Hello everybody |
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| 20:48.42 | Shadow_7 | jhutchins: it's annoying since a raspberry pi isn't "that" low end. About equiv to a 2002 laptop |
| 20:49.40 | AL13N_ | jhutchins: isn't libsysfs2 a system lib? can i really remove this? |
| 20:50.04 | jhutchins | AL13N_: I'd be pretty suspicious of that. |
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| 20:50.50 | Shadow_7 | AL13N_: for those on the list make sure that dpkg -l show's a different version installed in it's place. |
| 20:51.08 | arven | I'm not sure why they would strip out features from desktop packages. |
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| 20:51.26 | AL13N_ | Shadow_7: yes, that's why i'm suspicious of libsysfs |
| 20:51.28 | Shadow_7 | AL13N_: you may need to apt-get install them manually to keep them from making autoremove |
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| 20:52.12 | AL13N_ | but, libsysfs might be really obsolated by something else, i figured you guys would know |
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| 20:52.33 | Brigo | AL13N_, of course |
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| 20:52.53 | Brigo | AL13N_, of course no, i meant |
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| 20:54.59 | Shadow_7 | AL13N_: libsysfs2 is in my debian jessie. Looks to be what uses the /sys/ stuff. Although not installed on my minimal system |
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| 20:58.39 | Shadow_7 | Trying to compile povray and having -lboost_thread issues. I think it can't find the path for the lib when I do the make. I did an ld.so.conf.d trick for the configure. And LIBS= doesn't seem to cut it on the make/linker part |
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| 20:59.59 | Shadow_7 | What's the CLI trick to pass a lib path on the make? LD_PRELOAD? Been a while since I coded |
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| 21:02.48 | xingu | Shadow_7: try LDFLAGS=-Wl,-rpath,/some/path |
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| 21:03.32 | xingu | Shadow_7: but seriously for something like boost_thread why isn't it in a standard location? |
| 21:03.56 | arven | I just took the /boot/config-`uname -r`, loaded it in menuconfig, removed ACPI support, and compiled. The system wouldn't even boot, despite not even having ACPI. |
| 21:04.04 | arven | I used the typical update-initramfs |
| 21:04.09 | Shadow_7 | parts migrated it seems from boost_thread to boost_system... |
| 21:04.54 | Shadow_7 | it's located in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/, not sure if that's a standard place |
| 21:06.01 | Shadow_7 | arven: might be easier to have a USB bootable linux with grub on it and update-grub it to boot it. idk |
| 21:06.03 | xingu | Shadow_7: sounds messed up, required libs should be in gcc's (really - ld's) standard paths and should be passed as -lmylib at link time. |
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| 21:07.13 | xingu | Shadow_7: nb: the lib used at link time isn't the .so, it's the .a |
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| 21:08.29 | arven | Shadow_7: I've got a copy of everything i used before in the boot list |
| 21:08.31 | Shadow_7 | libboost_system.a is in that path... but libboost_thread.a isn't... guess that's the issue |
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| 21:08.53 | arven | Shadow_7: just getting back in isn't the problem, it's figuring out what's going wrong in the initrd |
| 21:09.30 | Shadow_7 | modern grubs are more picky. using UUIDs instead of root=/dev might help |
| 21:09.50 | arven | update-grub sets it all up for me, and it looks just the same as the other entries |
| 21:09.53 | AL13N_ | Brigo: Shadow_7: jhutchins: looks like i don't need all of those and it rebooted fine after the upgrade |
| 21:09.56 | Shadow_7 | arven: aka root=UUID=FFFFFFFF-.... |
| 21:10.09 | AL13N_ | now to check if the php app still works, and the ldap modules work still |
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| 21:11.03 | xingu | Shadow_7: aah, I lied, the .so is used at link time as well (I was thinking of the now deprecated .sa's) |
| 21:11.14 | AL13N_ | Brigo: i figure libsysfs might just be an interface to the sysfs system without using /sys itself so that programs can use it... and if you don't have such programs, you don't need it either |
| 21:11.24 | boycottg00gle | can gvfs sftp use socks5 proxy? |
| 21:11.55 | AL13N_ | Brigo: or, i could make a bad joke and say that with systemd obsoleting all of that, that it wouldn't be that farfetched if it would obsolete this :-) |
| 21:12.24 | xingu | Shadow_7: gcc -print-search-dirs |
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| 21:13.05 | arven | Shadow_7: that's all in order |
| 21:13.13 | Shadow_7 | xingu: looks like I lack the libboost_thread...-dev package. But upgrading to 1.55 from 1.54 in the process |
| 21:13.26 | xingu | Shadow_7: that'll be it, enjoy |
| 21:13.33 | Shadow_7 | xingu: thanks |
| 21:14.22 | Shadow_7 | arven: the /etc/fstab might also need UUIDs depending on the hardware |
| 21:14.33 | xingu | Shadow_7: don't get me wrong there is a time and a place for this chicanery (crosscompiling... setting things up for a chroot... etc) and it's fun to unravel it all. :) |
| 21:15.18 | Shadow_7 | at least on mine with PATA (ide) and SATA ports. roulette at boot as to what the /dev/ names are |
| 21:16.10 | arven | Shadow_7: I don't think it's even getting as far as that... initrd hangs at a blank screen, even without quiet boot |
| 21:16.31 | arven | Shadow_7: I typically use labels |
| 21:16.40 | Shadow_7 | arven: so not failing to mount the rootfs |
| 21:17.05 | arven | Shadow_7: failing to even get to a point of "Loading, please wait..." after the initrd is loaded |
| 21:17.38 | Shadow_7 | arven: you might check if /boot/ links for vmlinuz and initrd are what you expect them to be. And expand the bootloader to use the long names |
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| 21:23.30 | Shadow_7 | any tricks for converting bitmap bdf fonts to ttf? I should probably google that. |
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| 21:23.47 | arven | Shadow_7: all the files that it's working with are fine in terms of name |
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| 21:24.05 | arven | Shadow_7: checked, re-checked, triple checked... it's got to be contents |
| 21:24.43 | boycottg00gle | answering my own question: yes if you set it in .ssh/config |
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| 21:25.11 | Shadow_7 | arven: even possible links on / ? |
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| 21:25.27 | AL13N_ | app seems to work well, ldap too... this looks like a successful upgrade... now that it's almost 23:30 ... time to go to sleep |
| 21:25.28 | Shadow_7 | arven: maybe the rootfs support isn't in the kernel (or bootloader) |
| 21:25.28 | arven | Shadow_7: it's booting with the full names on / |
| 21:25.36 | arven | * /boot |
| 21:25.52 | AL13N_ | jhutchins: Shadow_7: thanks for all the help |
| 21:25.55 | arven | Shadow_7: wouldn't it get far enough to at least display a single textual message? |
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| 21:26.16 | Shadow_7 | I think the loading... one is the last one out by grub... |
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| 21:27.10 | Shadow_7 | arven: so if you're not getting that far, it's probably a bootloader issue |
| 21:27.18 | arven | perhaps the kernel isn't even loading? |
| 21:27.29 | arven | I mean loading, but not actually doing anything upon execution |
| 21:27.57 | Shadow_7 | arven: compiled for the wrong cpu type? need a non-pae kernel? or other exotics? |
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| 21:29.36 | arven | Shadow_7: the thing is, I compiled from linux-source-3.2 and used a known-good configuration |
| 21:29.52 | arven | I know I'm probably overlooking something, perhaps in the kernel |
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| 21:31.45 | Shadow_7 | arven: the kernel needs device and filesystem support for the rootfs |
| 21:32.05 | Shadow_7 | arven: could be done in the initrd, but risky |
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| 21:32.15 | Prospect-C | some example of non-orm with rest framework???? |
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| 21:39.08 | mjt | hello. For the first time, I'm using a notebook which does not have a middle mouse button. How I can paste a text selected in an xterm to any gtk input field, including iceweasel address bar and icedove message text? |
| 21:39.34 | Mousey | both mousebuttons at once emulate middle mouse buttoon |
| 21:39.39 | Mousey | buttooooooooooooooooon |
| 21:39.42 | Shadow_7 | mjt: cntrol + shift + V in gnome shell |
| 21:39.46 | Mousey | also --^ |
| 21:39.58 | Mousey | but that's gnome |
| 21:40.09 | mjt | yes, i know, but this laptop does not have buttons per se, and i can't press both at once |
| 21:40.20 | Mousey | then three finger tap |
| 21:40.23 | Shadow_7 | emulate3button is one way, but by default X assumes all mice are 3 button |
| 21:40.34 | Mousey | three-finger tap! |
| 21:40.39 | mjt | and 3-finger tap pastes a different content |
| 21:40.44 | Mousey | D: |
| 21:40.50 | Mousey | apt-get install klipper |
| 21:40.52 | Mousey | or clipman |
| 21:40.54 | Mousey | or something |
| 21:41.01 | Shadow_7 | or screen shot and ocr |
| 21:41.08 | Mousey | lol |
| 21:41.15 | mjt | hm. ctrl+SHIFT+v |
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| 21:41.35 | Mousey | just highlighting should be enough to put it in the buffer/clipboard. three-finger tap should paste that buffer |
| 21:41.52 | Shadow_7 | if you ^C to copy the highlight |
| 21:42.00 | Mousey | there's a difference between ctrl-C and highlight-as-copy |
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| 21:42.11 | mjt | it doesn't |
| 21:42.30 | mjt | ctrl+shift+v does the same as ctrl+v |
| 21:42.35 | Mousey | ctrl-c works with ctrl-(shift-)v, and highlight-to-copy works with three-finger top |
| 21:42.37 | Mousey | tap, even |
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| 21:43.47 | mjt | can't do a 3-finger tap either |
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| 21:45.42 | mjt | oh. i can. but it is just insanely difficult |
| 21:46.06 | Mousey | yes, the difficulty level: insanity |
| 21:46.15 | Mousey | i hate glidepads |
| 21:46.38 | Shadow_7 | You could always get a 3 button mouse |
| 21:46.39 | Mousey | like software keyboard, i have NO idea how they became popular, and they're a thorn in my side when trying to have faith in humanity |
| 21:47.15 | mjt | Shadow_7: and put it where? It is a laptop i'm travelling with (or planning) |
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| 21:47.59 | mjt | it is a temporary laptop i've got instead of another one which is in service/repair - they're replacing defective touchpad.. ;) |
| 21:48.06 | Shadow_7 | beer coozy works well |
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| 21:48.42 | Shadow_7 | A wireless one with a bluetooth nub does well |
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| 21:49.32 | Shadow_7 | I have a 2 button trackball that I'm trying to get 3 button emulation working on. But I'm tending to borrow the desktops mouse |
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| 21:50.11 | mjt | what i really hate is a separate device to carry around. |
| 21:50.28 | mjt | maybe if i had 3 hands... |
| 21:50.38 | Shadow_7 | shove it all in a briefcase |
| 21:50.44 | Shadow_7 | or gym bag |
| 21:51.06 | mjt | for that i'll need 4 hands ;) |
| 21:51.10 | Shadow_7 | or get a golf shirt with 4 front pockets |
| 21:52.44 | mjt | nah. i mean, quite usual i take the notebook from where it was standing, take it with one hand and do something (type/click/etc) with another hand. It's impossible to do when it has another piece |
| 21:53.14 | mjt | even writing some program while walking :) |
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| 21:53.42 | Shadow_7 | perhaps a new job that doesn't require you to code while walking? or an updesk |
| 21:53.49 | mjt | somehow my brain works better when I'm walking around. |
| 21:54.03 | Shadow_7 | the treadmill updesk |
| 21:54.05 | mjt | i just need the already existing thing to work |
| 21:54.20 | mjt | the one which I used to use, prefer to use, and paid for |
| 21:55.21 | Shadow_7 | there's a goodwill tech store where I'm at. laptops are cheap, just need a usb bootable linux |
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| 21:56.07 | mjt | but ok. it is not really debian-related anymore ;) |
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| 21:57.57 | arven | Shadow_7: I solved the whole issue and feel pretty stupid now |
| 21:58.26 | mjt | (i bought a laptop especially for vacations/trips, to be as mobile as possible, because I need access to the network even at vac. But last week, touchpad broke on it, so I sent it to service/repair. Hoped they'll be in time before Jul-1 (my first vacation day), but they're not. So I asked around and a friend of mine gave me his laptop, just for this vac. Ofcourse I can buy new laptop for every vac, but it is a "bit" too expensive.) |
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| 22:01.51 | Crell | Greetings. What's the easiest way to tell which debian version a system is running? |
| 22:02.17 | Shadow_7 | Crell: lsb_release -a |
| 22:02.28 | Crell | Bingo, thanks! |
| 22:02.39 | Crell | Just how out of date is squeeze at this point? :-) |
| 22:02.40 | mjt | that assuming it is actually a version instead of some mix |
| 22:03.04 | Shadow_7 | or cat /etc/issue |
| 22:03.27 | Shadow_7 | squeeze is pre-wheezy... older than stable |
| 22:03.34 | Crell | That's what I thought. |
| 22:03.41 | Crell | needs to talk to his sysadmin... |
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| 22:04.07 | mjt | fwiw, squeeze is lts |
| 22:04.37 | Shadow_7 | it's not "that" old... potato, woody, lenny, ... are older than it |
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| 22:05.04 | Crell | Well, it has packages for mongodb 1.7, it looks like. |
| 22:05.10 | Crell | Which is… a wee older than I'd want to use. |
| 22:05.44 | Shadow_7 | and probably edge... really have kept up... a few years distracted by ubuntu |
| 22:05.52 | mjt | etch |
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| 22:06.21 | Shadow_7 | s/have/have not/ |
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| 22:15.58 | doobie_pie | yo |
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| 22:16.14 | doobie_pie | mpv won't play dvd movies. what codec does it need installed? |
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| 22:17.31 | Crell | Is there a good source for current mongodb versions for Debian 6? |
| 22:17.34 | Brigo | doobie_pie, afaik i should do it |
| 22:17.53 | doobie_pie | what? |
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| 22:18.38 | Brigo | doobie_pie, sorry, afaik, mpv should play dvds. |
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| 22:19.23 | doobie_pie | what is afaik |
| 22:19.30 | Brigo | as far as i know :) |
| 22:19.34 | doobie_pie | well, it doesnt |
| 22:19.45 | doobie_pie | i put the dvd in and it told me that it was encrypted and library was missing |
| 22:19.47 | Shadow_7 | Crell: packages.debian.org or dpkg-query |
| 22:19.52 | doobie_pie | libdvdread is already installed. what else |
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| 22:20.23 | Shadow_7 | doobie_pie: libdvdcss2 ... videolan.org ? |
| 22:20.25 | Crell | Shadow_7: The squeeze repo has the 1.4 version. I'm looking for the 2.6 version. |
| 22:21.29 | Brigo | doobie_pie, you need libdvdcss |
| 22:21.46 | doobie_pie | ok Brigo |
| 22:21.50 | doobie_pie | thatnks |
| 22:22.07 | doobie_pie | is that the only one? |
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| 22:22.21 | Shadow_7 | mpeg2 codec... but probably already have that |
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| 22:24.38 | Brigo | !tell doobie_pie about libdvdcss |
| 22:25.01 | doobie_pie | is intell atom Z2560 an x86 processor? |
| 22:25.11 | Shadow_7 | there's libdvdnav and libdvdread and other stuff |
| 22:25.20 | doobie_pie | so that you could install normal x86 debian or ubuntu on it via sd card slot? |
| 22:25.31 | doobie_pie | Shadow_7: so which to install |
| 22:25.35 | Shadow_7 | atom is x86 afaik... x86_64 in theory |
| 22:25.45 | Shadow_7 | doobie_pie: all of the above |
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| 22:26.04 | doobie_pie | Shadow_7: so what about this acer tablet that is out with intel Z2560 ? If u buy that, can i just install on it? not a stupid arm cpu |
| 22:26.08 | doobie_pie | is that correct please |
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| 22:29.53 | Shadow_7 | atom is just lower wattage... and lower specs MHz vs. GHz.. it'll feel like an arm... arm is likely better for battery life |
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| 22:29.59 | doobie_pie | does anyone know how to boot up a live install of debian that was written to sd card, from a intel atom (x86) - based tablet? |
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| 22:30.14 | doobie_pie | Shadow_7: yes, but it is x86, so it should run standard linux os |
| 22:30.35 | doobie_pie | i am going to buy the tablet if it is possible to boot up the live installer from sd card on android tablet |
| 22:30.43 | doobie_pie | then overwrite android |
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| 22:30.56 | doobie_pie | how do you get into the bios boot selector? |
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| 22:31.55 | Shadow_7 | idk, it might be difficult at best for a tablet |
| 22:32.18 | doobie_pie | well it should work if they didnt lock it |
| 22:32.22 | doobie_pie | it has a normal cpu |
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| 22:32.32 | doobie_pie | i would much ratehr thanve linux on it than android |
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| 22:32.59 | Shadow_7 | you could probably chroot as a last resort, if it's doesn't default to windows embedded |
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| 22:33.36 | Shadow_7 | some of those ONLY boot from nvram or other embedded storage |
| 22:33.42 | doobie_pie | hmm |
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| 22:34.26 | doobie_pie | so you hold power and then volume or something like that? |
| 22:34.31 | doobie_pie | and then it gives you option to boot from usb? is that it |
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| 22:35.01 | Shadow_7 | doobie_pie: idk... never had a tablet... thought about hacking one, but for the price I could have an arm army |
| 22:35.08 | doobie_pie | $130 |
| 22:35.21 | Shadow_7 | pi is only $35 |
| 22:35.23 | doobie_pie | i am only tempted bec it is an intel x86 cpu |
| 22:35.35 | Shadow_7 | doesn't matter much with qemu |
| 22:35.45 | doobie_pie | don't know what that is |
| 22:35.52 | Shadow_7 | and linux / debian which boots almost any cpu type |
| 22:36.31 | Shadow_7 | qemu supposedly lets you emulate cpu types regardless of your cpu type |
| 22:36.50 | Shadow_7 | an obvious performance hit, but meh |
| 22:37.04 | doobie_pie | well how would you get it to boot on an ARM cpu |
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| 22:37.12 | doobie_pie | an x86 image |
| 22:37.32 | Shadow_7 | qemu is more application level |
| 22:37.38 | Shadow_7 | like wine |
| 22:37.53 | Shadow_7 | never used it yet so don't know |
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| 22:38.31 | doobie_pie | http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NT.L4DAA.001 |
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| 22:42.46 | Shadow_7 | bluetooth and micro card reader. hope you have bluetooth hid's |
| 22:42.59 | Artemis3 | Shadow_7, incorrect. qemu can emulate cpu or use your host cpu, it has nothing to do with wine. |
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| 22:43.23 | Shadow_7 | I said like wine. not was wine. |
| 22:44.14 | Artemis3 | Shadow_7, wine provides windows apps the environment they expect, can't be compared. |
| 22:44.47 | Artemis3 | Shadow_7, qemu is a general emulator, very good with a gui like aqemu |
| 22:44.48 | Shadow_7 | lets apps run in systems they couldn't otherwise run... was the comparison I was making |
| 22:45.34 | doobie_pie | so Shadow_7, could I install debian on that |
| 22:45.38 | doobie_pie | from sd card boot |
| 22:45.41 | Artemis3 | Shadow_7, qemu = virtual machine |
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| 22:46.21 | Artemis3 | qemu and bochs were merged, so it can emulate different cpus |
| 22:46.28 | Shadow_7 | doobie_pie: idk... it's not designed for that per say |
| 22:46.46 | doobie_pie | that is the only selling point |
| 22:47.24 | Shadow_7 | if you don't need the tablet aspect, a minix neo 7 has about the same specs, except arm |
| 22:47.35 | Artemis3 | it supports the kvm module for speedy same cpu as host emulation |
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| 22:50.17 | doobie_pie | how much does minix 7 cost and can you install regular linux on it? |
| 22:50.57 | Shadow_7 | about $130-ish |
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| 22:51.27 | doobie_pie | so why would i buy something like that without a screen, when it costs the same with screen |
| 22:51.29 | Shadow_7 | minix 9 is 2015 probs and has the rk3288 quad which smokes the rk3188. |
| 22:51.45 | abrotman | doobie_pie: this is #debian .. Do you need help with Debian? |
| 22:52.16 | doobie_pie | no |
| 22:52.17 | Shadow_7 | it has wifi, ethernet, and usb ports. screens fail, limited life |
| 22:52.29 | abrotman | doobie_pie: then please take this elsewhere |
| 22:52.37 | abrotman | This channel is for Debian support, not random chitchat |
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| 22:53.15 | Shadow_7 | Is there a debian kernel (jessie) that works for the raspberry pi on the armel flavour? |
| 22:53.15 | doobie_pie | ok... |
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| 22:53.37 | abrotman | Shadow_7: there is a #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net, but I'd suspect so |
| 22:54.03 | Shadow_7 | Hmmm... ty |
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| 22:56.10 | Shadow_7 | any clue on tvc-ip.com fluff in xhosts? the atieventsd was flooding port 53 with that entry in xhosts. Not sure where it came from. But wasn't an issue without X and without atieventsd running |
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| 22:58.45 | Shadow_7 | showed in xauth list |
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| 23:01.12 | bascuppen | Hiya! I'm currently doing a netistall i386. After I choose for a encrypted home partition the install process takes a *heck* of a time deleting the data on the previous fat32 winxp partition. Is it using shred to overwrite the previous data? |
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| 23:05.35 | anoob | i am running an ubuntu live cd ... is it possible to update my installed debian system from the live cd? chroot or something like that ... |
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| 23:06.08 | Shadow_7 | anoob: yes |
| 23:06.33 | anoob | how should i proceed Shadow_7? Do you have any resource? |
| 23:06.35 | Shadow_7 | anoob: you need to share the /proc/ and /dev/ if you CLI only it. |
| 23:07.04 | SynrGy | anoob: and the architecture of the live cd needs to be compatible with the architecture of the debian system |
| 23:07.09 | Shadow_7 | anoob: any debootstrap howto covers the steps mount -t proc... mount --rbind /dev ... |
| 23:07.49 | SynrGy | e.g. if the debian system is amd64 you can't use a live i386 architecture CD to recover |
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| 23:08.09 | oniott | italian chat |
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| 23:08.16 | anoob | Actually I`m running Ubuntu 14.04 ... |
| 23:08.21 | anoob | amd64 |
| 23:08.31 | oniott | hi |
| 23:08.32 | Shadow_7 | you would have difficulty chroot from 32 bit kernel to 64 bit one... but not 64 bit to 32 bit |
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| 23:09.00 | anoob | both are amd64, so i`ll not have this problem i guess ?) |
| 23:09.03 | anoob | :)* |
| 23:09.05 | abrotman | !it |
| 23:09.06 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:09.14 | abrotman | anoob: which OS are yo urunning? |
| 23:09.46 | oniott | i'm italian |
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| 23:10.26 | anoob | right now ubuntu 14.04 amd64 livecd abrotman ... debian sid installed in my hd |
| 23:10.51 | abrotman | anoob: what's wrong with your unstable install? |
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| 23:11.18 | cafuego | anoob: You cannot update sid with packages from the CD< but you *can* boot sid with the CD kernel. |
| 23:11.21 | oniott | record my desktop play black what? |
| 23:11.48 | anoob | i can`t boot abrotman : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=84834 |
| 23:11.56 | anoob | nothing that i`ve tried worked so far abrotman |
| 23:12.18 | cafuego | anoob: You can boot rescue mode from the CD and choose the Sid root filesystem when you are asked |
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| 23:13.09 | anoob | which cd cafuego |
| 23:13.11 | anoob | ? |
| 23:13.18 | cafuego | anoob: your livecd |
| 23:13.35 | cafuego | anoob: hit esc when it books and choose 'recovery mode' |
| 23:13.57 | cafuego | that'll boot to a text menu, from which you can choose to chroot into the filesystem on disk. |
| 23:14.02 | anoob | but should it be a debian live cd cafuego? |
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| 23:14.31 | cafuego | anoob: Should work with the Ubuntu one, all you'll be using is the kernel. |
| 23:14.43 | cafuego | Trying won't hurt, anyway. |
| 23:14.51 | anoob | of course ?) |
| 23:14.53 | anoob | :) |
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| 23:15.02 | anoob | i`ll give it a try cafuego |
| 23:15.05 | abrotman | FLW |
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| 23:15.20 | Shadow_7 | anoob: looks like the filesystem may have gone south. Couldn't find the UUID which is partition specific |
| 23:15.38 | anoob | weird, hum? |
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| 23:16.02 | anoob | i`ll try what cafuego said ... i`ll return soon :) |
| 23:16.06 | anoob | thank you all :D |
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| 23:20.47 | doemt | hello all |
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| 23:22.06 | doemt | how can i boot debian without a graficcard ? |
| 23:23.09 | doemt | debian wheezy boot fine with a graficcard but if i remove the graficcard , the system wont boot anymore ...someone knows how to fix ? |
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| 23:23.39 | Shadow_7 | boot to the cli? apt-get remove gdm (or whatever display manager might be installed) |
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| 23:23.56 | doemt | its a minimal system without X |
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| 23:24.26 | Shadow_7 | Is there any graphics card? monitor connection? |
| 23:24.49 | Shadow_7 | You may have disabled the mobo card in the bios |
| 23:24.56 | doemt | id like to have an headless system, normal the system boots fine with a graphiccard |
| 23:25.18 | Shadow_7 | Did you setup a ssh so you can login to it? |
| 23:25.23 | doemt | i tried systemrescue boot cd and it boots without a graphiccard |
| 23:25.41 | doemt | but only debian wont boot if i remove the graphiccard |
| 23:26.51 | Shadow_7 | define doesn't boot? since headless implies no monitor |
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| 23:27.43 | mentor | With totem from sid, it crashes on startup every time; it appears to be dying in lua somewhere after totem_grilo_new(). Has anyone else experienced similar |
| 23:27.44 | mentor | ? |
| 23:27.45 | doemt | all i see i two times blicking of the HDD LED if i remove the graphiccard and then nothing happends also no serial output |
| 23:28.03 | doemt | *blinking of the HDD LED |
| 23:28.57 | Shadow_7 | mentor: what does strace show for last system event? |
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| 23:31.54 | mentor | Shadow_7: It's accessing the grilo lua plugins in /usr/share/grilo-plugins/grl-lua-factory/ |
| 23:33.33 | Shadow_7 | mentor: is the user in the video, audio, and maybe other groups? |
| 23:34.38 | mentor | I don't think that's the issue |
| 23:34.46 | mentor | It's dying deep in the bowels of lua |
| 23:35.06 | Shadow_7 | mentor: does mplayer, vlc, or other players function? |
| 23:35.12 | mentor | Yes |
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| 23:40.26 | mentor | It does it as a clean user too |
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| 23:57.38 | phoric | my child programs require a database and a messaging queue to be available at all times. even though supervisord seems to be going down first in the shutdown sequence, it's child programs are crashing because of the DB going down. |
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