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| 00:30.55 | moloney | I am running squeeze the the 3.2.0-0.bpo.4 kernel and I notice very high CPU usage for kswapd when copy a large file from a fast device (SSD) to a slower device (HDD). The responiveness of the machine becomes really bad when this happens. RAM usage is not an issue (over 14G free). Is this a known issue? Are there workarounds? |
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| 00:45.53 | frostschutz | moloney, which filesystem(s)? |
| 00:46.34 | moloney | frostschutz: ext4 on both |
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| 01:07.25 | jasabell1 | hi :) |
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| 01:44.22 | wingnut2626 | Is there a way to get my /var/log/auth.log to log based on epoch time? |
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| 01:52.25 | Guest22458 | can I give oral to a 14 1/2 y/o girl as a 16 y/o |
| 01:52.28 | Guest22458 | thanks |
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| 01:54.40 | AlexLikeRock | help , in Virtualbox i can not edit MEMMORY (RAM). if i create a NEW VM , they are activate edit MEMORY RAM , and not appear "NEXT" |
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| 02:23.36 | mhoney | is there a specific channel for live debian? |
| 02:23.38 | aarcane | So I'm building a .deb package, right? Well, I haven't done this in quite some time. I screwed up at signing my packages, and now I've got like 5 signatures on every .deb. How do I remove the spurious signatures? |
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| 02:27.35 | somiaj | mhoney: I belive so on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:27.51 | mhoney | thanks somiaj |
| 02:28.10 | somiaj | mhoney: yea it is #debian-live on that network |
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| 02:32.37 | somiaj | aarcane: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net may have more knowledge to see what coudl be going on. What package are you trying to build and where did you get the source? |
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| 02:33.20 | aarcane | somiaj, qemu, but with ceph support. From backports. |
| 02:33.39 | aarcane | I just asked in -mentors, shortly before you suggested it. |
| 02:34.49 | somiaj | so you just did a apt-get source on the qemu package from backports and then modified the rules binary to include that config option? |
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| 02:35.41 | somiaj | I mean debian/rules script |
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| 02:36.25 | aarcane | somiaj, the debian/control file, and then dch and pdebuild. |
| 02:38.39 | aarcane | I haven't done an update on these packages in like 6 months, so I've forgotten the basic process. After I get qemu packaged and into the local repo, I'll be throwing an updated enlightenment e17 in as well, so I gotta figure out how to do this right. |
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| 02:40.20 | shay_shay | hello |
| 02:40.21 | somiaj | yea I'm unsure why extra signatures are being made. |
| 02:40.35 | shay_shay | bastebinit is just giving me a url to paste.debian.org |
| 02:41.24 | shay_shay | for example: "cat /path/to/file | pastebinit" or "pastebinit -i /path/to/file" |
| 02:41.37 | shay_shay | shawn@vps24586:~/CloudBot$ pastebinit -i ~/.pip/pip.log |
| 02:41.39 | shay_shay | http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 02:59.48 | shay_shay | well i cant paste anythingt |
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| 03:13.31 | ninoho | i just noticed that the timestamp of the file i created using dolphin is ahead from the system clock by 8 hrs, which is the amount of time by local time is ahead of GMT. how to correct this? |
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| 03:31.01 | ninoho | anybody's home? |
| 03:32.03 | abrotman | plenty of people |
| 03:32.11 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ninoho about set the time |
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| 03:34.09 | ninoho | thks. how to know or set the utc time? |
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| 03:35.54 | somiaj | ninoho: read the factoid a bot should have sent you |
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| 03:43.46 | ninoho | that's not much help. what i want to know now is where dophin gets its time so i can go set it to the same as the system time. |
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| 03:45.47 | jmcnaught | ninoho: Dolphin should be getting the time from the same source as every other application on your system. If you're dual-booting with Windows it's possible that Windows is using local time, when Linux really should be using UTC and have a timezone configured. Once you have that set up properly (which the installer should have assisted you with) the ntp package will take care of keeping your time accurately set. |
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| 03:48.54 | ninoho | indeed, i am dual booting with Windows Vista, but one can only boot up to one OS at a time. |
| 03:49.27 | tilt | vista :D |
| 03:49.32 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell ninoho -about windows utc |
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| 03:52.36 | ninoho | i install wheezy from within Windows. i may not have selected the correct timezone. then in wheezy, i set the time correctly. that may be the problem. got to sort this out. will install ntp. thks to all. |
| 03:53.00 | tilt | :) ok |
| 03:53.23 | ninoho | bye. |
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| 03:57.10 | syntroPi | i want to modify an existing debian package and add some patches to it: in the debian/ directory there is that rules file: when i add an patch/ directory to the debian/ directory which command in the rules file applies those patches? |
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| 04:00.27 | tilt | syntroPi: there's different ways to do it |
| 04:00.38 | tilt | syntroPi: did you search for "patch" in debian/rules ? |
| 04:01.00 | Rusty1 | syntroPi: whilst waiting for an answer from someone who is more knowledgeable than i , see if man debhelper is of any use |
| 04:03.08 | syntroPi | tilt, yes there is some direct "patch" commands in rules, but isnt there a debian specific tool for that which takes the debian/patches/series sequence for patches? maybe something related to quilt? |
| 04:03.23 | tilt | syntroPi: AFAIK the command is "dpatch" |
| 04:03.43 | syntroPi | tilt, dpatch invoked from rules? |
| 04:03.45 | tilt | i have never built a package using it |
| 04:03.55 | tilt | so i can only tell you stuff from google basically |
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| 04:04.00 | tilt | :) |
| 04:05.04 | syntroPi | yes im asking because im inexperienced in building deb pkgs myself: seems that dpatch is depreached https://wiki.debian.org/debian/patches |
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| 04:05.24 | jmcnaught | syntroPi: does the .dsc for the source package say "Format: 3.0 (quilt)"? |
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| 04:06.17 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell syntroPi -about nmg |
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| 04:08.06 | syntroPi | jmcnaught, yes this is the case |
| 04:09.16 | jmcnaught | syntroPi: the dpkg bot should have messaged you with a link about the new maintainer's guide which has a chapter on handling patches with quilt |
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| 04:09.23 | syntroPi | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/e/easystroke/easystroke_0.6.0-0ubuntu2.dsc |
| 04:09.53 | jmcnaught | syntroPi: oh, and you should be getting help in #ubuntu. #debian is for debian support |
| 04:10.30 | DanDare | Hello. In Wheezy, what's the default file manager if you install gnome WM ? |
| 04:10.58 | jmcnaught | DanDare: nautilus, but it also goes by the name "files" inside gnome |
| 04:11.15 | DanDare | I see. Thanks jmcnaught |
| 04:13.25 | syntroPi | jmcnaught, can i just create debian/patches/series debian/patches/mypatch.patch and add one command in debian/rules? which command would that be? quilt? |
| 04:14.16 | jmcnaught | syntroPi: if you're using Ubuntu, you should ask in #ubuntu |
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| 04:16.53 | syntroPi | Isnt the build system pretty much the same since it was developed by debian? |
| 04:17.31 | jmcnaught | !based on |
| 04:17.32 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 04:19.49 | jmcnaught | syntroPi: ^^^ now seriously, you should ask in an ubuntu channel if you need help with ubuntu, or switch to debian if you want help here. I don't *think* that that ops here have remote electrocution capabilities, but I wouldn't want to find out ;) |
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| 04:56.42 | athene_noctua | jmcnaught: :D |
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| 05:03.20 | jmcnaught | athene_noctua: hello? |
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| 05:08.36 | athene_noctua | jmcnaught: I was just laughing at the comment about electrocution capabilities. Laughing very late : ) |
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| 05:09.03 | jmcnaught | athene_noctua: oh yeah :) |
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| 05:59.19 | sdvsdvsdv | Hello, I want to install Linuxmint 17 Mate from USB but this motherboard doesn't let me install from usb |
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| 06:00.38 | sdvsdvsdv | I know so because I tested out flash drives that I put Debian on to install from on two other motherbaords. Linuxmint requires a DVD to install from but I don't have a DVD disc to install on. |
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| 06:02.08 | jmcnaught | sdvsdvsdv: there's probably a Mint channel you could ask for help in. Only Debian is supported in #debian |
| 06:02.08 | sdvsdvsdv | I remembered seeing and using this on Ubuntu 10.04 so I tried but it won't work because I was trying to install from the same hard drive, so I tried using a usb to do the same but it doesn't work |
| 06:02.11 | sdvsdvsdv | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847 |
| 06:02.38 | sdvsdvsdv | I know, sorry |
| 06:03.03 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell sdvsdvsdv -about linux mint |
| 06:04.28 | sdvsdvsdv | OK, but I am running Debian to do this, lol, but what ever |
| 06:10.16 | sdvsdvsdv | I will not hold anyone here liable for helping with what I am asking during this chat, lol, so just in case someone helps me here: |
| 06:10.18 | sdvsdvsdv | http://pastebin.com/2aLeiND4 |
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| 06:23.29 | botnut | hi all |
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| 06:31.05 | aarcane | Is there a good command in stable to force linux to re-run the swapping process? I've got a system nearly maxed on RAM, and it's been OOM Killing important procees. I just enabled swap, and while usage is low, I want to tell the kernel to start swapping out elligible pages while I bring back some of the removed procees. |
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| 06:33.20 | OpenTokix | aarcane: sysctl -w vm.swappiness=90 |
| 06:33.21 | OpenTokix | or something |
| 06:33.39 | OpenTokix | will make it swap very aggressivly, but if your oom is already running you are in a world of hurt |
| 06:35.07 | tilt | not applying immediately this way |
| 06:35.21 | aarcane | OpenTokix, one of the things it killed was a 2 GiB VM, which freed up quite a bit. I have swappiness set at 100 right now. |
| 06:35.22 | tilt | also use echo 90 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness |
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| 06:35.29 | tilt | aarcane: k |
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| 06:35.42 | OpenTokix | aarcane: Then it sounds like you have other problems, like vms cant be swapped out |
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| 06:37.49 | aarcane | kvm vms should be able to swap out... |
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| 06:39.55 | nf7 | Which file should I put my aliases in on Debian? On OSX, I used .bash_profile. There seems to be a .bash_profile, .profile, .bashrc, etc. on my Debian system. Which one should I use? |
| 06:40.47 | Mountain_R | Hi everyone I have a problem with the web visualization it is not bright, clear and defined as on ubuntu. I have added some non free fonts but nothing. I think that maybe is someting related to some proprietary codec about the monitor or the videoboard... can someone help me to fix this problem? |
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| 06:41.13 | Mountain_R | I use Wheezy 64bit |
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| 06:41.51 | OpenTokix | aarcane: why? They would become unusable |
| 06:44.04 | aarcane | OpenTokix, firstly, most VMs, just like physical machines, have a large chunk of literally empty memory. That memory, being empty and unused having no writes to or from it is still consuming memory on the host. Those pages should be trivial to swap out. Then the pages that are unused by the guest and haven't been touched in hours or even days.. The host should be able to swap out those pages as well. |
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| 06:50.20 | OpenTokix | aarcane: how will the host know what pages are unused? And that is probably handled by the guest itself, if you have swap for it. |
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| 06:52.05 | aarcane | OpenTokix, the fine manual says qemu VMs can be swapped by the host. |
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| 06:53.12 | flound1139 | anyone have any experience with LUKS-encrypted partitions? I have a (root) partition that won't mount on boot after upgrading to trusty |
| 06:53.44 | flound1139 | it just hangs after entering the passphrase |
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| 06:57.37 | awktion | sup |
| 06:57.53 | awktion | how can i make an init.d script run as a user? setuid=uid doesnt seem to be parsed |
| 06:58.21 | awktion | 'setuid uid' actually |
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| 07:12.30 | _odie | hi, what does the {a} behind a package mean when installing with apt? |
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| 07:13.50 | marcham93 | Hi guys. I removed a package, but the icon was not removed from the applications list in Debian 7 (you know, when you hit the Super key). Anyway to manually remove it? |
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| 07:14.10 | ArtVandalae | _odie, from memory that means the package is being added (probably as a dependency) |
| 07:14.26 | _odie | ArtVandalae: oh that makes sense |
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| 07:16.06 | ArtVandalae | _odie, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/121143/aptitude-meaning-of-curly-brackets-i-e-package1b-package2a-package3u |
| 07:16.44 | _odie | ArtVandalae: thansk! great answer |
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| 07:20.23 | soffio | hi, i've got a really huge letterspace on urxvt, any idea? i'm no Wheezy |
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| 07:20.46 | _odie | soffio: try setting the right font and a font thats available on your system |
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| 07:21.31 | soffio | well, it's not random... i set manually 'xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:pixelsize=10'. added 'letsp -1' that help a little. |
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| 07:22.18 | _odie | soffio: delete the font entry and rethink it, is the Font name available in your /fonts/TTF/ folder etc |
| 07:22.23 | marcham93 | Found answer for my problem - "alacarte" command. |
| 07:23.03 | soffio | what are you saying? :) that font name is available |
| 07:23.36 | _odie | soffio: a terminal makes huge spaces when the fontsize is not available |
| 07:23.48 | soffio | that's probably right |
| 07:23.54 | soffio | but that font name is ok |
| 07:23.58 | soffio | i get Dejavu at last, visually |
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| 07:25.13 | soffio | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/ttf-dejavu-core/filelist |
| 07:25.16 | soffio | /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf |
| 07:26.37 | soffio | you can check `grep Mono /usr/share/doc/ttf-dejavu/README` |
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| 08:04.29 | osfd_home | do you know a file manager with terminal emulator embedded ? |
| 08:05.11 | rryoumaa | emacs has both |
| 08:05.30 | d3lxa | anyone used btrfs-convert and can tell: their disk size, how smooth it went and how long did it take? thx |
| 08:05.46 | formorer | midnight commander (mc) |
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| 08:10.58 | osfd_home | krusader ? |
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| 08:21.52 | bsdbeard | How can I check if I have broken packages? |
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| 08:23.24 | Nik05 | bsdbeard aptitude search ~b |
| 08:23.44 | bsdbeard | Nik05, Will that work even though I install through apt-get instead of aptititude or synaptic? |
| 08:23.55 | Nik05 | i think so |
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| 09:32.56 | hulk | how i can install cron job on debian im trying aptitude install cron but nothing |
| 09:33.17 | dutchfish | !cron |
| 09:33.18 | dpkg | i heard cron is a daemon allowing programs to be run at predefined intervals as specific users. To read how to specify a job to run "man 5 crontab". To see your crontab "crontab -l". To edit it "crontab -e". System wide crontabs are /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d, and /etc/cron.* are directories have run-parts called on them from /etc/crontab. Also ask me about <crontab>, <cron tutorial> and <run-parts>. |
| 09:33.39 | OpenTokix | hulk: cron is already installed. you can put your cronjobs in /etc/cronjob or /etc/cron.d or /etc/crond.{hourly,daily,weekly...} |
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| 09:44.33 | mms_ | my netbook shows in dmesg vga compatible controller: intel corporation mobile 945GSE Express Integrated graphics controller (rev 03). in make menuconfig what to choose for it ? |
| 09:46.09 | OpenTokix | mms_: do a lspci -nn and search for the pci-id |
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| 09:46.35 | mms_ | ok |
| 09:46.48 | OpenTokix | mms_: 08:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Trident Microsystems Blade 3D PCI/AGP [1023:9880] (rev 3a) <-- 1023:9880 is the pci-id |
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| 09:49.45 | mms_ | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27ae] (rev 03) |
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| 09:50.56 | mms_ | actually I took linux 3.15.2 kernel and with all default settings just compiled it but on booting I get stuck at blank black display as if I guess its not getting display drivers |
| 09:51.30 | mms_ | OpenTokix: I am not sure in menucnofig what to choose |
| 09:51.51 | mms_ | or how to go about fixing this issue |
| 09:52.10 | OpenTokix | mms_: why are you compiling your own kernel, in the first place? |
| 09:53.45 | mms_ | OpenTokix: actually I thought to upgrade kernel since broadcom network wifi drivers are fixed in linux 3 kernel so ....I did not know if linux kernel package will have it all in there |
| 09:53.55 | mms_ | so thought to compile |
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| 09:54.18 | mms_ | I am on wheezy |
| 09:54.35 | mms_ | old kernel as such works fine but only network wifi issue |
| 09:54.43 | OpenTokix | mms_: use the backport-kernel? |
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| 09:54.58 | mms_ | why linux 3 kernel will not work ? |
| 09:55.21 | mms_ | if you could tell what display driver to choose I can try that |
| 09:55.37 | hulk | i opened "crontab -e" added this line "*/5 * * * * /usr/bin/php /usr/share/nginx/html/jobs/every_5min.php" but it do not run every 5 min.. what's wrong |
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| 09:57.18 | hulk | when i look inside "/usr/bin/php" i don't see there any php folder or something php called im using php fpm nginx |
| 09:58.25 | nkuttler | hulk: umm... check your report mails, or set MAILTO if you have to |
| 09:59.00 | hulk | nkuttler in cron tab "/usr/bin/php" this first should be path to the php binaries right ? |
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| 09:59.20 | nkuttler | hulk: not sure what you mean. man 5 crontab i guess |
| 10:00.34 | hulk | nkuttler yes it should be the php binaries ... however in /usr/bin/php i dont have any binaries. .. where else could they be ? |
| 10:01.02 | nkuttler | hulk: you mean the file /usr/bin/php doesn't exist? |
| 10:01.09 | hulk | nkuttler ye |
| 10:01.30 | hulk | nkuttler i looked inside /usr/bin/ and i found nothing with php |
| 10:01.34 | mms_ | so how do I know what is the issue...linux 3.x kernel stuck in boot with blank black display |
| 10:01.42 | nkuttler | hulk: install the php cli package |
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| 10:03.37 | mms_ | I see i915 in wheezy 2.6 kernel |
| 10:03.56 | mms_ | how to ensure its getting loaded in linux 3 kernel make menucnofig |
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| 10:07.25 | dutchfish | mms_, probably you need to set the right kernel configs, not usre for your card, but `cat /boot/$(uname -r) | grep i915` should tell you about the drm, there are other general configurations as well, i refer to the kernel handbook |
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| 10:08.27 | dutchfish | mms_, also read about oldconfig, to pick up the config of a stock kernel and work from there to a custom build one |
| 10:08.39 | dutchfish | mms_, have fun |
| 10:10.37 | mms_ | I do not quite understand but that command with *uname-r* shows me few lines |
| 10:11.15 | dutchfish | mms_, the relevant config lines for your kernel config |
| 10:11.21 | mms_ | when I boot linux 3 kernel its stuck so how to know whats the issue ? since i see black display i assume its display driver |
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| 10:11.42 | dutchfish | mms_, i just told you |
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| 10:12.26 | mms_ | dutchfish: I did not know what it means sorry can you simplify I can think of running menuconfig and choosing things |
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| 10:13.03 | mms_ | how do I pick up the 2.6 kernel config and use it for 3.x ? can I ? |
| 10:13.24 | dutchfish | mms_, correction should be `cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep 915` |
| 10:13.52 | mms_ | dutchfish: thats also prints nothig |
| 10:13.54 | mms_ | I used * |
| 10:14.03 | dutchfish | mms_, hardly, 2.6 is to far apart from a modern 3.x |
| 10:14.04 | babilen | mms_: Can you paste the output of "grep I915 /boot/config-$(uname -r)" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 10:15.46 | dutchfish | mms_, in simple terms, you take a config from a 3.x stock kernel as a start and change the wanted options (oldconfig), normally |
| 10:16.37 | dutchfish | mms_, but in general you cant convert a 2.6 system to be a 3.x one, there are other things in userland that wont cooperate on that |
| 10:17.21 | mms_ | dutchfish: thats why I trying menuconfig |
| 10:17.29 | mms_ | to understand that is selected for i915 |
| 10:17.43 | mms_ | but as such I should also look at boot stuck what is causing it |
| 10:17.46 | dutchfish | mms_, right |
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| 10:20.23 | dutchfish | mms_, if this is a primer on compiling your own kernel, start by reading the kernel docs and the debian wiki pages home to build a kernel image package, also this is not a trivial thing to do, this channel supports debian related questions not so much in how to roll your own kernel. |
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| 10:23.19 | asturel | why isnt automatically symlinking debian the /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_thread.so.1.54.0 to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_thread.so ? |
| 10:23.24 | asturel | same with libmysqlclient.so.18 |
| 10:23.42 | hulk | nkuttler still my php file is not executing ... i set a mailto and also i get no email notifications |
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| 10:24.00 | mms_ | http://paste.debian.net/107140 |
| 10:24.10 | mms_ | dutchfish: check that |
| 10:25.25 | dutchfish | mms_, should be cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep 915 |
| 10:26.27 | mms_ | CONFIG_DRM_I915=m |
| 10:26.28 | mms_ | # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set |
| 10:26.45 | dutchfish | mms_, that will give the lines of your current running kernel which you also need in your own config at least |
| 10:27.01 | mms_ | ok let me check in new kernel config |
| 10:27.26 | dutchfish | mms_, you prolly want CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y |
| 10:27.32 | mms_ | yes its in new config too |
| 10:27.34 | asturel | it could be because i have the same package on i386 and amd64 arch too? |
| 10:27.47 | mms_ | now then how to know whats causing boot hand |
| 10:27.48 | mms_ | hang |
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| 10:28.28 | hulk | why my php cron job not works |
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| 10:29.22 | mms_ | so how to now troubleshoot the linux hang |
| 10:30.15 | mms_ | dutchfish: in old also its not set |
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| 10:30.40 | mms_ | so I doubt it to be issue |
| 10:30.53 | mms_ | now I think next step is to look at boot log for new kernel and figure out |
| 10:30.57 | mms_ | how to do that ? dmesg ? |
| 10:31.11 | mms_ | but if it hangs then how to see the logs ? |
| 10:31.21 | dutchfish | mms_, in short, start with a well known working config (debians stock kernel config for that kernel) and work from there, there is no short answer unless you provide kernel debug logs |
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| 10:31.37 | mms_ | where can I get stock config ? |
| 10:31.54 | mms_ | I am using unchanged config as such from linux 3.15.2 |
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| 10:31.58 | babilen | /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 10:32.19 | dutchfish | mms_, out of the linux-image-xxxx package for that kernel (debian repository) |
| 10:32.21 | babilen | mms_: Did you try a stock Debian kernel? |
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| 10:32.40 | mms_ | babilen: no I did not know of that so I tried to compile |
| 10:32.47 | mms_ | I want linux 3 kernel |
| 10:32.56 | babilen | mms_: Sure, which version of Debian are you using? |
| 10:33.26 | mms_ | babilen: wheezy |
| 10:33.54 | babilen | mms_: Okay, what does "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'linux-image-*'" give you? |
| 10:33.58 | mms_ | let me aptitude command then so I can use it to get to linux 3. I am doing all this just to fix the broadcom wifi issue |
| 10:34.33 | zykotick9 | mms_: ahhh, wheezy comes with 3.2 by default? are you sure you aren't on squeeze? |
| 10:34.43 | babilen | mms_: But then wheezy installs with a 3.2 kernel. How did you manage to *not* use one? Did you upgrade from an older version? |
| 10:34.58 | hulk | can any php - cron job guy help me ? |
| 10:35.11 | babilen | mms_: Throw in the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64" please. |
| 10:35.22 | babilen | hulk: ##php maybe? |
| 10:35.36 | hulk | ye |
| 10:35.39 | hulk | it works |
| 10:35.41 | hulk | now |
| 10:35.42 | hulk | gg |
| 10:35.43 | hulk | bb |
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| 10:35.54 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 10:35.57 | mms_ | http://paste.debian.net/107142/ |
| 10:36.19 | mms_ | babilen: yes upgraded |
| 10:36.38 | babilen | mms_: So, you have linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae -- What happens if you boot into that one? |
| 10:37.02 | mms_ | it hangs with a black display after some bootting |
| 10:37.20 | babilen | Ah, so the issue is really that you cannot boot into the new kernel *after* your upgrade? |
| 10:37.21 | mms_ | thats what I am trying to know now how to find out whats hanging it |
| 10:37.32 | mms_ | correct |
| 10:37.40 | babilen | Ah, great (or not) |
| 10:37.48 | mms_ | currently I am chating from old kernel boot |
| 10:38.15 | mms_ | old one is fine but has wifi broadcom frequent disconnect issue so I read its fixed in linux 3 thus upgrading |
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| 10:39.03 | babilen | mms_: Sure, mind pasting the output of "head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}", "apt-get update", "aptitude search '~U'", "aptitude search '~o'" and "lspci -nn" ? |
| 10:39.16 | babilen | (run them in that order please) |
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| 10:39.57 | mms_ | I have wheezy in sources.list, update I had done |
| 10:40.09 | mms_ | you really want all of them ? |
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| 10:41.18 | babilen | mms_: Yes, is that a problem@ |
| 10:41.19 | babilen | ? |
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| 10:44.29 | mms_ | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/107144/ |
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| 10:47.53 | mms_ | ok so how to check whats causing hang...so kernel parameter can I pass to see it |
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| 10:50.09 | babilen | mms_: Thanks, that looks fine so far |
| 10:51.36 | babilen | mms_: You might want to boot without modeset, "nomodeset" XOR "i915.modeset=0" on the kernel command line |
| 10:52.06 | babilen | (edit it with "e" in the grub boot menu) |
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| 10:58.26 | ws2k3 | hello i just installed debian 7.5 but when i try to run a 32 bit application it just says no such file or directory |
| 10:59.14 | TJ- | ws2k3: Did you install the 64-bit version of Debian? |
| 10:59.18 | ws2k3 | yes |
| 10:59.37 | TJ- | ws2k3: I suspect you'll need the 32-bit multi-lib support |
| 10:59.42 | ws2k3 | in the past i need to do apt-get install ia32-libs |
| 10:59.46 | ws2k3 | yeah i think i do |
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| 11:00.22 | mms_ | ok had some disc |
| 11:00.30 | mms_ | babilen: back |
| 11:00.37 | TJ- | ws2k3: see https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
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| 11:01.56 | ws2k3 | hmm odd i have added this and my 32 bit executable still immidiatly no such file or directory |
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| 11:04.07 | mms_ | ok so any thing I can do for boot hang like pass kernel param and see some logs ? |
| 11:04.08 | ws2k3 | i had this issue before i only dont know how to solve it i'm pretty sure it was a libary or something |
| 11:04.34 | mms_ | ok let me try reboot |
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| 11:07.34 | SynrGy | ws2k3: what specific 32-bit application? |
| 11:08.09 | SynrGy | and when you say "added this" do you mean you followed the wiki article TJ- linked, or something else? |
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| 11:17.11 | mms_ | I am trying to boot into new kernel 3.15.2 (compiled it) on debian and it start to boot and then dispaly is blacked out and hangs. how to troubleshoot ? |
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| 11:18.54 | auf180 | Ich finde keinen direkten downloadlink von debian Server auf debian.org..... kann jemand helfen? |
| 11:18.59 | ws2k3 | i need to do a add arch and then install ia32-libs and then it worked fine |
| 11:20.35 | SynrGy | ws2k3: ia32-libs is obsolete |
| 11:21.01 | SynrGy | adding the arch is the new way. then you just install whichever specific libs you want with apt-get install libblablah:i386 |
| 11:21.18 | SynrGy | or else if installing a debian package containing a 32-bit app, it should depend on them |
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| 11:23.25 | Skyrider | Hia |
| 11:23.36 | ws2k3 | yeah well it works now |
| 11:24.07 | Skyrider | When I install xcache, its installing it into apache and restarting the apache service as well.. While I'm using nginx (obviously, apache appears to be installed somewhere). Is there a way to set a default webserver? |
| 11:24.19 | ws2k3 | i think my debian has a bad driver r8169 0000:03:00.0 eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw (-2) |
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| 11:25.31 | mms_ | I am trying to boot into new kernel 3.15.2 (compiled it) on debian and it start to boot and then dispaly is blacked out and hangs. how to troubleshoot ? |
| 11:26.12 | xreal | I'm on Debian Queeze. I want to have all the CRON logs in /var/log/cron.log, not in auth.log an nowhere else. So I've uncommented #cron in /etc/rsyslogd.conf. Now, /var/log/cron.log gets written, but some entries are still in /var/log/auth.log => why? |
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| 11:28.32 | ws2k3 | hello i just installed debian 7.5 on my brand new system when i look in dmesg i see eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw |
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| 11:30.09 | Brigo | ws2k3, did you install the firmware file? |
| 11:30.46 | xreal | Anyone into Debian in here? |
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| 11:30.55 | sandman13 | ws2k3: apt-get install firmware-realtek I guess |
| 11:31.07 | ws2k3 | Unable to locate package firmware-realtek |
| 11:31.38 | ws2k3 | it looks like my current network driver is a unstable |
| 11:32.14 | ws2k3 | my ping to the server has a very high TTL and when i start a server it is not reachable |
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| 11:32.55 | Brigo | ws2k3, get the package from other computer and install it with dpkg -i |
| 11:34.01 | mms_ | for intel atom I had choosen pentium pro default settings in menuconfig for linux3. Ihope its fine. In dmesg I do see a bug null pointer dereference |
| 11:35.02 | sandman13 | ws2k3: have you enabled contrib and non-free repos in your sources.list |
| 11:35.07 | ws2k3 | no i did not |
| 11:35.16 | ws2k3 | but i have manualy downloaded the .deb and installed it |
| 11:35.21 | ws2k3 | dmesg |
| 11:35.33 | sandman13 | ws2k3: you don't have internet connection? |
| 11:35.40 | ws2k3 | yes i do |
| 11:36.01 | sandman13 | ws2k3: type this on your terminal: ping -c 3 www.google.com |
| 11:36.07 | ws2k3 | i tryed it works |
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| 11:36.20 | sandman13 | that means you have working internet connection |
| 11:36.35 | sandman13 | what Desktop Environment are you using? |
| 11:36.39 | ws2k3 | yes i know, but i have the feeling the driver is still unstable |
| 11:36.50 | ws2k3 | i dont use an desktop envirement i log in the box using ssh |
| 11:38.07 | sandman13 | do you have root access to the box? |
| 11:38.19 | ws2k3 | yes i do |
| 11:38.59 | sandman13 | ws2k3: tally your /etc/apt/sources.list with this: http://bpaste.net/show/hHtZwTuU9QgpebzrgASz/ |
| 11:39.06 | ws2k3 | when i ping the machine this is how my TTL look like not realy good i think http://pastebin.com/7At3jGik |
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| 11:41.23 | ws2k3 | are there maby some other huge changes in the network part of debian 7.5? cause the main reason that i came here is that when i start a server proces is it just not reachable while on my other debian servers this works fine |
| 11:42.05 | xreal | I'm on Debian Queeze. I want to have all the CRON logs in /var/log/cron.log, not in auth.log an nowhere else. So I've uncommented #cron in /etc/rsyslogd.conf. Now, /var/log/cron.log gets written, but some entries are still in /var/log/auth.log => why? |
| 11:42.09 | xreal | Squeeze* |
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| 11:51.01 | ws2k3 | i did apt-get install firmware-realtek but it told me already installed |
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| 11:52.20 | ws2k3 | it realy looks like some kinda of firewall or something is enabled |
| 11:53.13 | ws2k3 | cause netstat -tulpn shows my application just fine but when i try to connect to the application it just gives a time-out |
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| 11:55.06 | ws2k3 | think i move back to debian 7.4 cause that didnt had this bug |
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| 11:56.37 | Brigo | ws2k3, there was not major changes in debian 7.5, only bug fixing and security issues. |
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| 11:58.00 | ws2k3 | hmm okay, then is it possible that that firmware error might cause issues ? |
| 11:58.14 | Brigo | ws2k3, if you can reach sshd port, but not your application port and the aplication is listening, then should be any kind of firewall at somepoint |
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| 11:58.44 | Brigo | ws2k3, ws2k3 yes, but not one port only related |
| 11:59.06 | ws2k3 | i also tryed to launch it at other ports but that didnt work ether |
| 11:59.23 | ws2k3 | i checked iptables -L but there is nothing |
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| 11:59.48 | Brigo | in this computer, may be another in the middle |
| 12:00.01 | Brigo | try with a tcptraceroute |
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| 12:01.15 | ws2k3 | its an udp application |
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| 12:03.17 | Brigo | i think you should try it anyway |
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| 12:04.08 | Brigo | usally ports are closed for udp and tcp. |
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| 12:04.23 | TJ- | ws2k3: "rtl8168g-2.fw" is in firmware-realtek from wheezy-backports |
| 12:05.22 | TJ- | Is the application binding to all interfaces, or just a specific interface, and is that interface reachable from the remote client? |
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| 12:07.54 | ws2k3 | realy awesome, my provider added some udp blocking stuff and enabled it by default, i was about to go nuts. |
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| 12:09.48 | Brigo | the router then or you will can not solve it' |
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| 12:13.04 | FUZxxl | Hello! |
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| 12:14.24 | babilen | auf180: Du willst in #debian.de fragen (oder hier Englisch sprechen) -- There simply are no images for "Debian server", but simply install images |
| 12:14.30 | babilen | dpkg: tell auf180 -about install debian |
| 12:15.15 | babilen | auf180: Ask the bot about factoids in <…> with "/msg dpkg …", so "/msg dpkg ig" for <ig> |
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| 12:17.56 | FUZxxl | I have added a new PCIe card to my system. It's supposed to provide a Centronix interface. |
| 12:18.21 | FUZxxl | I didn't see any new device files in /dev though. Does anybody know how to make the corresponding device file show up? |
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| 12:20.22 | TJ- | FUZxxl: check the kernel dmesg log to see if it was recognised/had problems, then you should be able to find it under /sys/class/printer/ |
| 12:22.16 | FUZxxl | TJ-: the output of lspci contains the line |
| 12:22.20 | FUZxxl | 02:00.0 Parallel controller: NetMos Technology Device 9900 |
| 12:22.37 | FUZxxl | I haven't found a similar line in dmesg |
| 12:22.55 | FUZxxl | oh wait. |
| 12:22.57 | FUZxxl | there's this |
| 12:23.38 | FUZxxl | http://paste.debian.net/107155/ |
| 12:24.06 | abrotman | shuldn't it show in lspci ? |
| 12:24.42 | FUZxxl | abrotman: It does. |
| 12:24.43 | Brigo | FUZxxl, lspci -k will show you the kernel used for that hardware. |
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| 12:24.59 | FUZxxl | okay. There's no kernel driver. |
| 12:25.07 | FUZxxl | Let me see if I find an appropriate driver... |
| 12:25.22 | abrotman | FUZxxl: what's the PCIID from lspci -nn ? |
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| 12:26.06 | FUZxxl | 02:00.0 Parallel controller [0701]: NetMos Technology Device [9710:9900] |
| 12:26.17 | abrotman | judd: pciid 9710:9900 |
| 12:26.18 | judd | [9710:9900] is 'Unknown device' from 'MosChip Semiconductor Technology Ltd.' with kernel module 'parport_serial' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=9710:9900 |
| 12:26.24 | abrotman | heh |
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| 12:27.11 | abrotman | FUZxxl: what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 12:27.20 | FUZxxl | 3.8.0-35-generic |
| 12:27.39 | FUZxxl | stop |
| 12:27.41 | FUZxxl | wait |
| 12:27.41 | abrotman | FUZxxl: please use #ubuntu for support, we don't support that here |
| 12:27.42 | FUZxxl | wrong info |
| 12:27.51 | FUZxxl | 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 12:27.57 | FUZxxl | I executed that on the wrong shell |
| 12:28.09 | abrotman | FUZxxl: that kernel hsould have a driver for that device |
| 12:28.10 | FUZxxl | The debian system is 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 12:28.27 | FUZxxl | What is the name of the driver? |
| 12:28.31 | Brigo | 'parport_serial' |
| 12:28.45 | abrotman | http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/PARPORT.html |
| 12:28.52 | FUZxxl | I did modprobe parport_serial now. |
| 12:29.40 | FUZxxl | still now entry in /sys/class/printer |
| 12:30.09 | Brigo | FUZxxl, watch dmesg again |
| 12:30.33 | FUZxxl | nothing new in dmesg |
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| 12:31.14 | FUZxxl | This is the whole dmesg as of now: |
| 12:31.15 | FUZxxl | http://paste.debian.net/107157/ |
| 12:32.02 | Brigo | FUZxxl, and this? ppdev: user-space parallel port driver |
| 12:33.07 | FUZxxl | there's also nothing in /sys/class/ppdev |
| 12:33.26 | Brigo | FUZxxl, chex syslog about an udev log |
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| 12:35.36 | FUZxxl | Brigo: Nothing in syslog. http://paste.debian.net/107158/ |
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| 12:36.51 | Brigo | FUZxxl, may be the device was created with other name. |
| 12:37.24 | Brigo | FUZxxl, are you tring to connect a printer? |
| 12:37.28 | FUZxxl | Brigo: yes. |
| 12:37.39 | Brigo | did you connect it? |
| 12:38.10 | FUZxxl | yes. |
| 12:38.19 | FUZxxl | It's also turned on. |
| 12:38.24 | TJ- | FUZxxl: That device is a multi-IO card; the number of parallel ports is in the sub-device ID |
| 12:38.46 | Brigo | you should try to detect it with cups |
| 12:38.55 | Brigo | i must go now, sorry |
| 12:38.59 | FUZxxl | Brigo: I don't want to use it with cups. |
| 12:39.15 | FUZxxl | I want to write data to the printer directly from an application. |
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| 12:39.54 | FUZxxl | I expected that there was a device file for that printer, but there seems to be none... |
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| 12:41.11 | FUZxxl | hm... |
| 12:42.31 | TJ- | FUZxxl: does this report anything? "grep 'PCI parallel port detected' /var/log/kern.log" ? |
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| 12:42.49 | FUZxxl | TJ-: no. |
| 12:43.00 | TJ- | FUZxxl: that explains the problem then :) |
| 12:43.11 | Betrayer | hihihihhi |
| 12:43.11 | FUZxxl | The interface card is plugged into a PCIe slot if that matters. |
| 12:43.22 | FUZxxl | TJ-: How can I solve the problem? |
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| 12:44.02 | TJ- | FUZxxl: Not entirely sure; I'm reading the kernel source-code for parport_serial. That is what it writes to the log when it registers a parallel port |
| 12:44.16 | FUZxxl | ok... |
| 12:45.02 | FUZxxl | btw, the card's box also contained a little driver CD with a linux driver in source, but it doesn't compile. |
| 12:45.34 | FUZxxl | the linux driver is a modified version of the 8250 driver. |
| 12:46.10 | TJ- | FUZxxl: can you pastebin "lspci -nnvvk -s 02:00.0" |
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| 12:47.13 | FUZxxl | TJ-: http://paste.debian.net/107159/ |
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| 12:49.42 | TJ- | FUZxxl: source-code has "par->numports = (dev->subsystem_device & 0xf0) >> 4;" ... subsystem device is ":2000" ... so 0x2000 & 0xf0 = 0 :( ... no parallel port |
| 12:49.59 | FUZxxl | -.- |
| 12:50.15 | FUZxxl | The card I bought only has a parallel port. |
| 12:50.23 | FUZxxl | There isn't even a serial port on the card. |
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| 12:53.13 | wald0 | i have chrome updated from security, but i want to downgrade it so it doesnt works good with my keymap... question is, how to know "why" was updated on the security repository ? |
| 12:53.21 | wald0 | i want to know if im missing some security issue if i downgrade |
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| 12:53.33 | FUZxxl | TJ-: This is the driver shipped with the card. http://fuz.su/~fuz/mcs99x.tar.xz |
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| 12:58.22 | abrotman | wald0: look at the changelog |
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| 13:09.18 | mallxs | pls adv. how do i restart the networking form a new or edited interfaces file ? |
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| 13:10.09 | Brigo | mallxs, with ifdown <interfacd> && ifup <interface> |
| 13:10.32 | TJ- | FUZxxl: did you read the "readme" in that source package, as it describes parallel port setup? |
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| 13:13.54 | FUZxxl | TJ-: Oh. I must have missed that. |
| 13:14.38 | TJ- | FUZxxl: I'm not sure the example I/O addresses make sense, based on the lspci output, though |
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| 13:16.23 | FUZxxl | TJ-: Yeah, it worked with the addresses in the lspci output. |
| 13:16.32 | FUZxxl | How can I make this persistant? |
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| 13:17.33 | TJ- | FUZxxl: add a custom modprobe conf file in "/etc/modprobe.d/" for the device |
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| 13:18.58 | FUZxxl | TJ-: Hm... |
| 13:19.09 | FUZxxl | now I have a device file, but I keep getting IP errors... |
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| 13:19.49 | TJ- | FUZxxl: create a file "/etc/modprobe.d/mcs99xx.conf" with "options parport_pc io=0x????? irq=??" |
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| 13:20.12 | m5 | Hi |
| 13:20.39 | m5 | I want to open a device on my network to the internet meaning people can request SSH shells |
| 13:20.44 | FUZxxl | TJ-: okay... |
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| 13:21.13 | m5 | I am concerned because I nmapped my windows device and it had loads of vulnerable looking crap running |
| 13:21.26 | m5 | Could I stop people doing this to my network? |
| 13:21.47 | abrotman | m5: how is this related to Debian? |
| 13:22.17 | FUZxxl | TJ-: oh. It works now. |
| 13:22.28 | m5 | Oh the device I want to expose is running debian and should have the limits in place because windows firewall configs are out of my reach and not computers I own |
| 13:22.39 | TJ- | FUZxxl: *phew* :) |
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| 13:22.46 | abrotman | is confused about this Windows Firewall thing .. |
| 13:23.07 | m5 | Windows * is just bad |
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| 13:23.41 | m5 | Hmm |
| 13:23.45 | m5 | Maybe someone could test it |
| 13:23.59 | FUZxxl | TJ-: I forgot to load the lp module. |
| 13:24.04 | m5 | Do you see any vulnerabilities? |
| 13:24.05 | FUZxxl | TJ-: Thanks a lot! |
| 13:24.18 | TJ- | FUZxxl: Ahhhhh! |
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| 13:27.23 | FUZxxl | It's pretty neat that this chip emulates an IBM parallel printer port with its IO registers. |
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| 13:27.38 | FUZxxl | That probably makes it much easier to use the card from legacy applications. |
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| 13:28.56 | TJ- | Legacy support for older, often proprietary, applications often requires that kind of hardware |
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| 13:32.44 | m5 | I want it to fit mine |
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| 13:36.53 | FUZxxl | Now for that terminal I want to install... |
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| 13:38.07 | m5 | Hmm |
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| 13:49.43 | dbus | i'm having some problems with my system; when i boot up my machine everything seems fine, but when gnome is about to start nothing happens. its just stuck on a black background, where only the mouse works |
| 13:50.13 | dbus | i have tried restarting gdm3 and it starts, but doesn't fix the problem |
| 13:50.45 | dbus | I also checked /var/log/Xorg.log but couldn't find any errors |
| 13:51.11 | mallxs | I try to add a internet connection (FTTH) |
| 13:51.12 | mallxs | line to a debian machine which i use as router / firewall, this line, should following the manual use DHCP. but i don't want to use the DHCP so configurated it static with the values found in a DHCP log. but it i bring up that interface it still does add a default route and the resolv.conf any idea how this is happing or what i do wrong ? |
| 13:51.39 | dbus | does anyone have some tips or hints that could lead me in the right direction? |
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| 13:57.54 | Brigo | dbus, check .xsession-errors and syslog too |
| 13:58.21 | Brigo | mallxs, how did you configure the interface? |
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| 13:59.40 | mallxs | Brigo: "iface eth3 inet static" and then the address etc. |
| 13:59.51 | sandman13 | dbus did you install any other DE or WM? |
| 14:00.05 | Brigo | mallxs, in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 14:00.26 | dbus | Brigo, Ok, I'll check. |
| 14:00.26 | mallxs | Brigo: sorry, yes |
| 14:00.32 | dbus | sandman13, nope, I did not |
| 14:01.30 | Brigo | mallxs, may be there are still any dhcp client proccess still in memory. You can check with pgrep -l dhcl |
| 14:01.35 | sandman13 | dbus: did you remove any gnome related apps? |
| 14:02.24 | dbus | I see a whole lot of errors in .xsession-errors actually |
| 14:02.44 | dbus | sandman13, nope. I didn't remove anything |
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| 14:03.17 | dbus | I did however compile and install a custom kernel. i booted it up and the problem occurred |
| 14:03.41 | dbus | I restarted and booted up the old default kernel, and the same problem occurred |
| 14:03.50 | sandman13 | dbus: see the last section of .xsession-errors |
| 14:03.59 | mallxs | Brigo: pgrep -l dhcl no result only the dhcpd is running for my internal clients |
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| 14:04.41 | Brigo | mallxs, so who are requesting the ip? |
| 14:05.13 | dbus | sandman13, I can't make anything useful out of it. let me upload it somewhere on the internet |
| 14:05.22 | Brigo | are you using another network manager like wicd or networ-manager? |
| 14:05.27 | sandman13 | okay |
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| 14:08.12 | mallxs | Brigo: i didn't know it but just found out I'm using the NetworkManager, if it reconfigures my resolv.conf it say "# Generated by NetworkManager" |
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| 14:08.47 | dbus | sandman13, ok try: narhen.net/.xsession-errors |
| 14:09.36 | Brigo | mallxs, mallxs may be that is the problem. |
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| 14:09.54 | Brigo | network manager is managing the interface. |
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| 14:10.44 | mallxs | Brigo: will read the man and try to disable it |
| 14:10.48 | TJ- | Network Manager usually uses a private instance of dnsmasq as a resolver, and puts the dnsmasq localhost address in "/etc/resolv.conf" |
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| 14:10.53 | mallxs | Brigo: thx |
| 14:11.00 | Brigo | yw :) |
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| 14:11.50 | furhun_ | hey, Rhythmbox is not being used as the default application for music ++ its not running in the background + no gnome-applet.. |
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| 14:15.58 | furhun_ | hullo? |
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| 14:16.20 | furhun_ | I cant see any Network Applet for Rhythmbox... and it doesnt run in background.. |
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| 14:19.53 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.56 | sandman | dbus: looks like you have to reinstall the DE |
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| 14:20.06 | furhun_ | *GNOME |
| 14:20.26 | dbus | meh |
| 14:20.28 | furhun_ | not network. typo... i mean .. Its not integrated into the sound menu Brigo |
| 14:20.40 | sandman | dbus: I believe that people here will provide better solution than that |
| 14:20.59 | sandman | dbus did you install gnome separately |
| 14:21.04 | furhun_ | sandman: yes |
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| 14:21.51 | Brigo | furhun_, did you launch it? |
| 14:22.02 | furhun_ | Brigo: launch what? |
| 14:22.08 | sandman | furhun_: If i am correct then you might be missing network-manager for GNOME |
| 14:22.10 | dbus | nope, this is a standard debian install. gnome was installed when debian was installed |
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| 14:22.45 | furhun_ | sandman: it doesnt HAVE ANYTHING to do with the network |
| 14:22.49 | furhun_ | that was just a mistake |
| 14:22.52 | Brigo | furhun_, rhythmbox |
| 14:23.13 | furhun_ | Brigo: yes.. and then when i close it, the song stops playing |
| 14:23.23 | furhun_ | also, theres no integration with the sound menu |
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| 14:23.36 | Brigo | furhun_, so not close it :) |
| 14:23.46 | furhun_ | Brigo: cant afford this :S |
| 14:24.23 | Brigo | furhun_, i do not use gnome3 neither rhythmbox, so i can see exactly what is the problem by myself |
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| 14:24.58 | furhun_ | Brigo: it normally runs in the background.. dunno why its not ... |
| 14:25.03 | Brigo | furhun_, cannot afford what? rhythmbox runnig? |
| 14:25.17 | furhun_ | Brigo: yes.. i want it to run in the background |
| 14:25.27 | sandman | dbus: type this: dpkg -l | grep gnome |
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| 14:26.21 | furhun_ | ..... sandman: a lil help? :P |
| 14:26.22 | Brigo | furhun_, sorry, but i know nothing about rhythmbox running in backgroud. |
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| 14:27.39 | sandman | furhun_: I also don't use Rhythmbox but look at it's setting, you might have disabled background play |
| 14:27.53 | furhun_ | sandman: cant find any such setting... |
| 14:28.30 | furhun_ | also, i noticed that THIS version of GNome is way different from the normal Gnome found in Fedora or Ubuntu.. though i cant quite figure what or why is the difference.. |
| 14:29.19 | sandman | Debian Stable usually has older but tested and tried versions of packages |
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| 14:31.05 | Brigo | ,v gnome |
| 14:31.06 | judd | Package: gnome on i386 -- squeeze: 1:2.30+7; wheezy: 1:3.4+7+deb7u1; jessie: 1:3.8+8; sid: 1:3.8+8 |
| 14:31.37 | Brigo | Furai, wheezy has gnome 3.4, and testing 3.8 btw |
| 14:32.41 | Brigo | Furai, sorry, not for you but furhun_ |
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| 14:33.50 | furhun_ | ah.. well.. right now i need to get Rhythmbox to function properly.. anyone else? :S |
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| 14:37.16 | sandman | furhun_: http://fossforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/rythmbox.png this shows there are menus, try looking in those |
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| 14:37.53 | furhun_ | i already have sandman :S |
| 14:38.23 | furhun_ | could any of you just try and check if the same is happening with u or not? sandman? |
| 14:39.07 | sandman | furhun_: I don't have the live cd |
| 14:39.28 | furhun_ | what does it have to do with the livecd? |
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| 14:39.52 | sandman | for Rhythmbox it requires GNOME and I use KDE |
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| 14:41.49 | sandman | furhun_: have you tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1564913.html |
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| 14:44.03 | furhun_ | sandman: that thread is about a stupid switch from an independent applet to the sound menu |
| 14:44.31 | sandman | click edit, select plugins from the dropdown menu, select status icon, and then click configure, set status icon to owns the main window. furhun_ |
| 14:44.37 | sandman | tried that |
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| 14:45.39 | furhun_ | sandman: no status icon entry.. ive been there |
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| 14:46.49 | sandman | furhun_: will be back after 15 mins or so |
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| 14:50.58 | okee | Is there a way to install Chrome? I don't see it in the backports. |
| 14:51.21 | sveta | try using 'chromium' package; or is chrome specifically important? |
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| 14:52.05 | flippyflop | I got chrome from ninite.com |
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| 14:55.07 | JZTech101 | hey guys, I just installed debian-testing and ma trying to switch to sid |
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| 14:55.34 | JZTech101 | however, I get 404 not found for sid-backports, sid-iupdates and security |
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| 14:55.44 | JZTech101 | is htere a nother repo I should use? |
| 14:55.48 | pankgeorg | Hello everyone, I have a problem with multiarch: I messed something up when apt told me that it held back some packages. I did `apt-get dist-upgrade` to get these packages (I don't remember which it was) and now i386 programs like skype and android emulator crush. Any ideas how to fix it? http://pastebin.com/chPR0bsS |
| 14:55.56 | ompaul | JZTech101: they do not exist |
| 14:56.34 | ompaul | !tell pankgeorg about bat |
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| 14:57.28 | JZTech101 | ompaul: so I should switch back to jessie? |
| 14:57.33 | JZTech101 | for those specific repos? |
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| 14:57.39 | ompaul | JZTech101: no |
| 14:57.53 | ompaul | JZTech101: you can't - sid does not have a backports |
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| 14:58.18 | some-cowbell | sid is its own backports essentially |
| 14:58.34 | JZTech101 | ompaul: erm. ok, lets put it this way. I replaced all instances of jessie with sid in my sources.list |
| 14:58.35 | ompaul | JZTech101: just remove backporta updates and security - those things are fed to stable by unstable (sid) |
| 14:58.40 | JZTech101 | ok |
| 14:58.59 | ompaul | except security which does not exist |
| 14:59.17 | ompaul | fixes tend to fall from the sky within a day of them hitting stable |
| 14:59.54 | ompaul | for security - think about it you have unstable it takes in the next set of packages so it gets fixed by dist-upgrade |
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| 15:00.46 | ompaul | remove any pinning if yoiu don't want to go crazy and only ever do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade outside of X in case it messes with your settings - it might with something in transition and you don't want to be logged into X that day |
| 15:01.11 | ompaul | some-cowbell: sort of but I'd not ever say it like that :-) |
| 15:01.21 | JZTech101 | Erm.. I'm only left with http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian & http:L//http.debian.net/debian for sid |
| 15:01.28 | JZTech101 | should I have more? |
| 15:01.30 | JZTech101 | ._. |
| 15:01.52 | ompaul | what is that letter L doing in there |
| 15:01.58 | ompaul | JZTech101: no you shouldn't |
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| 15:02.26 | ompaul | JZTech101: it is an expectation that those who run SID know what they are doing |
| 15:02.43 | JZTech101 | ok |
| 15:02.49 | ompaul | cos some day it will break it is not production it is unstable - but you know what I had one funny day since 2009 |
| 15:03.07 | ompaul | and that I invited because I knew what I was doing |
| 15:03.12 | piko``` | Hello, I try to setup a simple bridge on my machine that would consist of my wire interface connected to my provider and a virtual machine TAP interface. I made this happen but when I try DNS resolution from virtual machine, the response goes in via physical interface but not back to the virtual machine. I tried everything came up to my mind and I do not see it. Could nyone help? |
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| 15:03.47 | ompaul | the correct channel for sid is on irc.oftc.net and is #debian-next if you want to see what might be today's pain etc it also has useful data in topic of that channel about sid |
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| 15:05.34 | ompaul | piko```: so that someone who might know better than I do can help, please paste the following data in one link cat /etc/resolv.conf & route for both host and guest |
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| 15:07.26 | furhun_ | yo, can anyone tell me why i cant get Rhythmbox to display an applet in the sound menu or why its not running in the background? |
| 15:07.34 | pankgeorg | About the problem I asked before about libstdc++6:i386 missing: http://paste.debian.net/107170/ |
| 15:08.49 | piko``` | ompaul: see http://paste.debian.net/107172/ |
| 15:09.51 | piko``` | ompaul: but I do not think this is in routing since I use bridging which should act before any routing takes place |
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| 15:11.02 | furhun_ | yo? |
| 15:11.50 | happytux | hi |
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| 15:12.07 | petern_ | furhun_, the tray icon got removed at some point |
| 15:12.23 | furhun_ | means there is supposed to be one petern_? |
| 15:12.46 | petern_ | no, it was removed |
| 15:13.18 | furhun_ | by? |
| 15:13.33 | petern_ | by the rhythmbox developers i assume |
| 15:13.42 | ompaul | piko```: do you have packet forwarding enabled and do you have firewall rules at work? |
| 15:14.03 | furhun_ | petern_: its still there in ubuntu :S |
| 15:14.58 | okee | sveta> Yes, Chrome is specifically important. I already have Chromium package installed. |
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| 15:15.07 | some-cowbell | last coupla days, I've been fighting with my video card, trying to get an appropriate version of fglrx for it. Once I figured out my main userland was i386 and I was running amd64 kernel, and the fglrx package build log showed a link error saying it was trying to link a 32b thing to a 64b thing, I installed a 686-pae kernel, and after rebooting, the builds started working... except neither fglrx (legacy and non) would see my car |
| 15:16.00 | some-cowbell | could it be I can find the correct fglrx driver in earlier debian versions? |
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| 15:16.56 | pankgeorg | Is there a way to understand why a package `is not going to be installed` in order to install/remove stuff that will fix the problem myself? Or a clean installation is unavoidable? |
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| 15:17.18 | JZTech101 | ompaul: I know what I'm doing in general. I just found it weird that I'm left iwth so little repos |
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| 15:19.13 | ompaul | JZTech101: there isn't one. That is the way of unstable. |
| 15:19.51 | JZTech101 | Anyways, I've gotten Debian working now :D |
| 15:20.22 | some-cowbell | for a select few, debian does work :) |
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| 15:20.57 | teraflops | im lost, so little repos? |
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| 15:21.16 | some-cowbell | maybe he's expecting ppas |
| 15:21.19 | piko``` | ompaul: packet forwarding is enabled on all three interfaces (both bridged and bridge itself) ... for firewall, I do not know about any special rules for bridging. The bridge itself is enabled. |
| 15:21.54 | JZTech101 | teraflops: this is my first time editing the sources list. Normally I'm just using commands to modif it |
| 15:21.59 | piko``` | ompaul: so is enabled the arp_proxy |
| 15:22.02 | ompaul | pankgeorg: looking here you can find the instructions https://wiki.debian.org/skype |
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| 15:22.45 | JZTech101 | :S |
| 15:22.49 | teraflops | what commands JZTech101? |
| 15:22.51 | JZTech101 | Perhaps installing cinnamon wasn't the bet idea |
| 15:22.58 | JZTech101 | its freezing on the start menu |
| 15:23.00 | JZTech101 | :L |
| 15:23.21 | ompaul | piko```: well as you say yourself something is missing cos it is not doing it right. |
| 15:23.22 | JZTech101 | teraflops: echo |
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| 15:23.50 | piko``` | ompaul: I know, but I do not see what it is |
| 15:23.58 | ctmjr | JZTech101: welcome to Sid enjoy the ride. |
| 15:24.05 | piko``` | ompaul: I will check again the firewall rules |
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| 15:24.53 | ompaul | piko```: try tcpdump and traceroute etc |
| 15:25.05 | ompaul | straight forward fw rules |
| 15:25.23 | ompaul | and no bridge would allow external packages get in |
| 15:25.33 | ompaul | and out |
| 15:26.15 | teraflops | JZTech101: `echo` im lost again, anyway not my bussines |
| 15:26.43 | furhun_ | waiting |
| 15:26.57 | pankgeorg | ompaul: I did everything there without success and apt-get -f install wants to >remove< skype instead of fixing dependencies.. http://paste.debian.net/107176/ |
| 15:27.33 | piko``` | ompaul: I just have tshark enabled both on both bridged interfaces) and I clearly see that physical interface transmits both request and response but the virtual interface sends only the request but do not get the response |
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| 15:28.02 | piko``` | ompaul: what do you mean by: "and no bridge would allow external packages get in and out" |
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| 15:28.24 | ompaul | piko```: a virtual machine doesn't need to live on a bridge |
| 15:28.34 | JZTech101 | ctmjr: lol |
| 15:28.38 | ompaul | piko```: you can use smart fw rules to move packets |
| 15:28.42 | ompaul | if you need to |
| 15:28.44 | JZTech101 | Time to seee if I cna make XFCE look goo I guess |
| 15:28.55 | JZTech101 | Anyone got any tips on making XFCE not look like hsit? |
| 15:29.15 | ompaul | fvwm |
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| 15:30.05 | JZTech101 | fvwm? |
| 15:30.17 | ompaul | JZTech101: it's not xfce ;-) |
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| 15:30.59 | JZTech101 | reminds me of windows 200 :S |
| 15:31.00 | piko``` | ompaul: I know but I do not feel strong enough on firewall rules to go this way. On the other hand bridging enables me to introduce new virtual machines simply without need to modify my firewall rules - I simply add their interfaces to the bridge (at least that is what I try to accomplish). |
| 15:31.03 | JZTech101 | 2000* |
| 15:31.09 | ompaul | pankgeorg: well then it (skype) is installed ... so what is the problem |
| 15:31.20 | mtn | JZTech101: why use it if you don't like it? you have lots of other choices |
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| 15:32.05 | JZTech101 | Is it bad, I;m only aware of Unit, XFCE, KDE, GNOME & Cinnamon? |
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| 15:32.07 | JZTech101 | :S |
| 15:32.27 | pankgeorg | ompaul skype is installed indeed but the libraries `libstdc++6:i386` is not, and the main reason I want it right now is to run android emulator. any ideas on getting it? |
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| 15:32.57 | teraflops | i do like pantheon DE, idn if its available on sid/unstbl |
| 15:32.59 | ompaul | piko```: check that over https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections |
| 15:33.22 | ompaul | JZTech101: look for screen shots and work out what you want |
| 15:33.53 | ompaul | pankgeorg: not a one, never ran an android anything other than on a phone |
| 15:34.05 | JZTech101 | ompaul: ok |
| 15:34.20 | ompaul | JZTech101: this all falls under TIAS (try it and see) |
| 15:34.28 | JZTech101 | settles on GNOME because laziness |
| 15:34.35 | JZTech101 | it actually looks decent now |
| 15:34.40 | ompaul | JZTech101: that's because "no reason" |
| 15:34.50 | JZTech101 | lol |
| 15:35.01 | pankgeorg | ompaul, I will take that advice but for the time being I am trying to learn how to develop apps :D (And I ain't got no money for a phone xD) |
| 15:35.19 | piko``` | ompaul: I see that, the only part I did have not tried yet is the ebtables part ... I thought this is not needed for simple setups. |
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| 15:36.41 | ompaul | piko```: bridges are not standard ways for vms to work with outside world |
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| 15:36.48 | ompaul | routing is |
| 15:37.19 | ompaul | make eth0:1 10.whatever and have it talk to the vm would be one thing you could do |
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| 15:37.31 | ompaul | but it might get a bit ill |
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| 15:38.31 | piko``` | ompaul: hmm, you mean to use virtual machine that creates TUN/TAP interface and then to route internally using iptables? |
| 15:38.40 | ompaul | like that |
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| 15:39.13 | ompaul | piko```: however I'd strip it all back down and create it again to make it work because it seems some small but significant step was missed |
| 15:40.41 | piko``` | ompaul: you mean not to abandon the bridging approach but to try that again? I tried that almost ten times since I believed that I made some stupid mistake ... but I have not found out which one was it up to now. |
| 15:41.20 | piko``` | The only uncertain part for me is the firewall setup ... ok, I will try to bring the firewall completely down and repeat all that. |
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| 15:44.16 | pankgeorg | is there a way to install previous version of a package? |
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| 15:45.33 | ompaul | !downgrade |
| 15:45.33 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 15:58.27 | pankgeorg | ompaul that did the trick it thank you! What I did wrong: I had an hhvm mirror in the apt/sources.list.d/ directory which installed the UBUNTU version of libstdc++6! That broke my packages! I used your trick to downgrade to the debian 4.7.2 and deleted the hhvm entry! Thank you very much |
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| 15:59.40 | pankgeorg | ompaul, and everything works now, thank you >REALLY< :D |
| 16:02.16 | ompaul | pankgeorg: you are lucky |
| 16:02.21 | ompaul | !frankendebian |
| 16:02.21 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 16:09.05 | pankgeorg | ompaul, hahaha that was awesome :D Yea I know about frankendebian, I messed things up again in the past and I was sure that I did not do that this time. I didn't expect that it could be possible for the hhvm (Facebook's hacklang) repo to serve me ubuntu packages. |
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| 16:10.24 | pankgeorg | ompaul, anyway, as we say here in Greece, `experience is a flame that shines upon everyone it has previously burn` :P |
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| 16:17.17 | dsgrgb | im trying to download all the latest debian torrents cd+dvd, but its taking too long |
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| 16:17.27 | dsgrgb | is there anyway to speed up the precess |
| 16:17.53 | dsgrgb | e.g. autodownload script of some sort? |
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| 16:19.04 | jmcnaught | dsgrgb: most people just get to approx 200MB network installer, then it downloads the packages you need during installation |
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| 16:19.39 | dsgrgb | jmcnaught: i want to put all the torrents on my seedbox and seed |
| 16:20.16 | xreal | I'm on Debian Queeze. I want to have all the CRON logs in /var/log/cron.log, not in auth.log an nowhere else. So I've uncommented #cron in /etc/rsyslogd.conf. Now, /var/log/cron.log gets written, but some entries are still in /var/log/auth.log => why? |
| 16:20.18 | jmcnaught | dsgrgb: ahhh cool! unfortunately i'm not aware of a way to speed up a download like that |
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| 16:20.54 | dsgrgb | jmcnaught: balls, i guess i just need to keep downloading them individually |
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| 16:24.46 | kHaOSmAkER | guys, im using pam against radius for authentication, do you know an easy way to log users without needing to create the users locally ? |
| 16:27.05 | mms_ | I have compiled 3.16rc2 linux kernel and tried it on debian wheezy. It gets stuck in blank screen. |
| 16:27.24 | wald0 | how i can know which packages i have installed from the security repo ? |
| 16:27.31 | mms_ | then I went into recovery option and looks at kern and dmesg log and did not see any error |
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| 16:28.16 | mms_ | should I post kern and dmesg logs ? |
| 16:28.22 | mms_ | and any thing else |
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| 16:30.57 | mtn | mms_: doesn't really seem like a debian support question to me, but it sounds like a video driver problem |
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| 16:31.24 | mms_ | mtn: wheezy with old kernel works fine you think new kernel has video driver issue ? |
| 16:31.49 | babilen | mms_: And booting the stock kernel with nomodeset doesn't do it for you? |
| 16:31.50 | mms_ | mtn: how to confirm ? |
| 16:31.51 | mtn | mms_: stuck at a black screen usually means that, yes |
| 16:32.10 | mtn | mms_: look at your xorg logs |
| 16:32.17 | mms_ | let me check |
| 16:32.51 | babilen | mms_: And just to confirm: After choosing the kernel in the grub menu you see *nothing* ? |
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| 16:33.19 | babilen | (no boot messages nor anything else, just black) |
| 16:33.45 | mms_ | babilen: it goes through quite few screens of boot messages but then blank |
| 16:33.57 | some-cowbell | ok, need the last one |
| 16:34.42 | babilen | mms_: Ah, that is something entirely different and you have to be more precise in your error descriptions. Your earlier report very much implied that you see nothing. In this case it is "simply" an Xorg error and easy to debug. |
| 16:35.23 | mms_ | ok tell me how to debug the X issue then please |
| 16:35.33 | mms_ | I am seeing bunch of file sin gdm3 dir |
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| 16:36.24 | mtn | mms_: log files are in /var/log |
| 16:36.24 | babilen | mms_: Paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a suitable pastebing (http://paste.debian.org, http://paste.ubuntu.com, http://refheap.com, ...) |
| 16:36.37 | some-cowbell | gotta look at your X logs to see why it fails (also, check the current date as your system has it, and the date of the log file to make sure it's the right one) |
| 16:37.02 | babilen | mms_: In particular: Playing with different kernels won't do anything |
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| 16:41.23 | xreal | Anone with linux knowledge in here? |
| 16:41.40 | mms_ | I am in var loghttp://paste.debian.net/107182/ |
| 16:41.45 | mtn | xreal: heck no! |
| 16:42.00 | mms_ | please take look |
| 16:42.01 | xreal | mtn: yeah, that's what I thought |
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| 16:42.44 | xreal | nobody seems to know an answer to my question |
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| 16:43.25 | mms_ | this is by mine booting into recovery |
| 16:43.52 | mtn | xreal: you are welcome to ask your question again after 10 minutes of asking it and maybe someone will see it that has the answer. ;) |
| 16:44.09 | xreal | mtn: ok, then I missed two times. |
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| 16:44.27 | mtn | xreal: oh, and: patience is a virtue :) |
| 16:44.36 | xreal | I'm on Debian Squeeze. I want to have all the CRON logs in /var/log/cron.log, not in auth.log an nowhere else. So I've uncommented #cron in /etc/rsyslogd.conf. Now, /var/log/cron.log gets written, but some entries are still in /var/log/auth.log ... I also tried adding "& ~", but iut also doesn't work. |
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| 16:44.52 | mms_ | mtn: please take look |
| 16:44.57 | mms_ | babilen: please take look |
| 16:45.01 | jasonthomas | hi im trying the command iwconfig wlan0 up |
| 16:45.19 | jasonthomas | and its says 'up' unknown command |
| 16:45.25 | xreal | xreal: argh, I am stupid, 1 sec |
| 16:45.53 | ctmjr | jasonthomas: you trying as root? |
| 16:45.55 | xreal | I've added this before auth,authpriv* => :msg, contains, "pam_unix(cron:session):" -/var/log/cronauth.log |
| 16:46.24 | mtn | mms_: we need the log of a failed login |
| 16:46.36 | mms_ | mtn: how to capture that ? |
| 16:46.58 | mtn | mms_: find the correct log that matches the time of a failed login |
| 16:47.14 | babilen | mms_: Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf or anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ? |
| 16:47.17 | mms_ | mtn: after the hang boot I went into recovery and gave you those logs |
| 16:47.48 | mtn | mms_: so the time stamp on the logs in your paste is for the failed login and not the recovery login? |
| 16:48.46 | mms_ | mtn: I was never able to login in boot hang scenario. then I power down and boot into recovery and give those logs |
| 16:48.51 | MartinCleaver | I’m using the boot-repair-disk… it asks for grub-pc which of the following GRUB install device should be: a) /dev/sda b) /dev/sda2 (/boot) or c) /dev/dm-1 (pve-root) |
| 16:48.54 | MartinCleaver | any hints? |
| 16:48.58 | mms_ | babilen: there is only /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak |
| 16:49.06 | mtn | mms_: does not answer my question about the time stamps |
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| 16:49.31 | hesco | . |
| 16:49.37 | mtn | mms_: anyway, try booting the new kernel using nomodeset |
| 16:49.48 | mms_ | mtn: ok |
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| 16:50.31 | babilen | (why the new kernel, I see *no* indication whatsoever that is is related to the 3.2 kernel specifically yet) |
| 16:51.18 | hesco | I have a server at a remote data center which I would like to rebuid from scratch, a debian base install on bare metal. Is there some easy way of accomplishing that without making a trip to the datacenter? Without installing new services in my cluster to manage that sort of activity? |
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| 16:51.58 | mtn | babilen: he only has the problem with the new kernel, the old one works fine according to him |
| 16:52.11 | hurdos | Hi |
| 16:52.19 | MartinCleaver | can see the case for each of (a,b,c) but all look reasonable |
| 16:52.42 | babilen | mtn: "new kernel == 3.2 +", "old kernel == 2.6.32 from squeeze" |
| 16:52.43 | MartinCleaver | Does grub go in a partition or a disk? |
| 16:52.54 | babilen | mtn: There is no need to try 3.16 rc whatever or so |
| 16:52.57 | MartinCleaver | guesses disk |
| 16:52.58 | mtn | MartinCleaver: usually sda or the first boot disk |
| 16:53.02 | MartinCleaver | thx |
| 16:53.15 | hurdos | Does someone know to use UUID in fstab for loop-aes? |
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| 16:53.31 | hurdos | *how to use |
| 16:53.42 | mtn | babilen: sure, not my idea to try that new of a kernel. like I said, doesn't sound much like a debian problem |
| 16:53.56 | babilen | mtn: Which is why I would suggest to not complicate the matter more by throwing in a manually compiled release candidate kernel, but would personally prefer to stock kernels from the Debian archive. |
| 16:54.10 | mms_ | mtn: I added nomodeset before quiet parameter and F10 booted but again same blank screen |
| 16:54.27 | babilen | mtn: I agree, but it sounds more like a intel gfx problem and Xorg than strictly a kernel related one |
| 16:54.30 | mtn | babilen: again, preaching to the choir. none of it is my idea :) |
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| 16:54.46 | babilen | mms_: I asked you some hours ago to boot your 3.2 kernel with "nomodeset" -- how did that work out for you? |
| 16:55.01 | mtn | mms_: as babilen is pointing out, you will be better off not using that kernel, but use a debian one. |
| 16:55.03 | babilen | mtn: I know, sorry .. just thought I provide some background (wasn't sure if you are aware of that) |
| 16:55.16 | mtn | babilen: thanks, I wan't aware of all of it |
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| 16:55.51 | mms_ | if we can find issue it will be great else I can continue my 2.6 |
| 16:55.58 | babilen | mms_: fwiw, there is a nice #intel-gfx channel that might offer additional insights |
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| 16:56.28 | mms_ | did you guys spot any thing in X paste ? |
| 16:56.57 | mms_ | also there was no xorg.conf in /etc/X11 there was a bak file |
| 16:56.59 | xreal | When redirecting messages in rsyslog, how can I kill them after redirection? adding "& ~" doesn't work => :msg, contains, "pam_unix(cron:session):" -/var/log/cronauth.log |
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| 16:57.26 | mms_ | reminds me of old days when had to generate X configs |
| 16:57.49 | MartinCleaver | ok, well, boot repair finished and still fails to boot. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7717211/ is the “repaired” state |
| 16:59.17 | some-cowbell | MartinCleaver: what is it doing now? anything different? (drops into initrd prompt, you run vgchange and hit ctrl-d, works) |
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| 16:59.42 | MartinCleaver | no, doesn’t even try. Just goes back to network boot attempt |
| 17:00.04 | some-cowbell | so it's worse... same install? |
| 17:00.21 | some-cowbell | oh, doesn't boot from the hd at all? |
| 17:00.38 | MartinCleaver | I’d installed the proxmox iso distro, which all went fine in itself |
| 17:00.54 | some-cowbell | maybe you overwrote your grub (is it grub?) install? |
| 17:01.00 | MartinCleaver | and clearly Boot Repair sees it |
| 17:01.08 | TJ- | MartinCleaver: Is the system UEFI? |
| 17:01.08 | MartinCleaver | Take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7717211/ |
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| 17:01.25 | MartinCleaver | It can tell you more than I can |
| 17:01.37 | Guest-Fr | Hi 2 all |
| 17:01.46 | mtn | MartinCleaver: you are intalling proxmox, not debian? do you have debian, too? |
| 17:02.59 | MartinCleaver | No. I have a mac and then this PC, onto which I want to run Proxmox. I was going to add proxmox to a debian desktop install but got utterly discouraged yesterday when a basic “debian with lvm” install failed to boot from defaults |
| 17:03.10 | MartinCleaver | so I started again from the proxmox iso |
| 17:03.18 | mtn | !proxmox |
| 17:03.18 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 17:03.20 | Guest-Fr | the menu 'power off' on gnome, will do no thing .... my laptop is runniing dbian testing + gnome. Please do you have any idea to fix this problem? |
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| 17:03.50 | MartinCleaver | supposes that #proxmox might be a better place to hang out then |
| 17:03.58 | mtn | Guest-Fr: are you using systemd? if not, use it and gnome should work correctly |
| 17:04.12 | jelly-home | !debian-next |
| 17:04.12 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
| 17:04.15 | some-cowbell | well it is if you have lost any intent for using debian |
| 17:04.23 | Guest-Fr | I gess it is systemd |
| 17:04.36 | mtn | Guest-Fr: best not to guess :P |
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| 17:05.12 | Guest-Fr | mtn :)) you are right, I'm checking :)) |
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| 17:06.00 | Guest-Fr | mtn : ps ax |grep -i systemd 1933 ? S 0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind |
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| 17:06.27 | some-cowbell | MartinCleaver: before you go... how did you get that boot-repair thing? |
| 17:06.40 | mtn | Guest-Fr: best to go to #debian-next on oftc |
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| 17:06.45 | jlim | hello |
| 17:06.50 | TJ- | MartinCleaver: It looks to me as if the OS was installed in UEFI mode to /dev/sda but seems to have a legacy BIOS GRUB partition, which suggests it has installed grub-pc rather than grub-efi package |
| 17:06.57 | MartinCleaver | http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/ |
| 17:07.03 | jlim | anybody know why flash in not in the debian repos? |
| 17:07.04 | Guest-Fr | mtnn thx |
| 17:07.23 | mtn | jlim: it is in the repos |
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| 17:07.29 | jlim | i can't install flash with apt-get |
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| 17:07.33 | MartinCleaver | I have a “before” snapshot too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7717136/ |
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| 17:07.45 | some-cowbell | shockwave flash? it's non-free, and there are downloader/installer packages for it |
| 17:08.00 | jlim | do you have a link |
| 17:08.10 | mtn | jlim: need to ad non-free and contrib to your sources? |
| 17:08.20 | MartinCleaver | it’s been a long time since I did grub type stuff - I usually work higher in the stack |
| 17:08.32 | mtn | jlim: http://packages.debian.org |
| 17:08.33 | jmcnaught | jlim: https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 17:08.56 | MartinCleaver | wonders whether he should have picked a different repair option re: installing to disk vs to partition |
| 17:08.59 | some-cowbell | jlim, both worth a look |
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| 17:09.16 | mms_ | I am having blank boot screen after few boot message screen on newly compiled 3.16rc2 linux kernel on debian wheezy on HP mini 1030nr. I have tried kerneal paramter nomodeset before quiet parameter and F10 booted but again same blank screen |
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| 17:09.23 | mms_ | mtn: just to summarize |
| 17:09.45 | mtn | mms_: does the stock debian kernel work ok? |
| 17:10.01 | jmcnaught | MartinCleaver: since you've established you're not using Debian, you should probably go find the proxmox support instead of continuing here |
| 17:10.13 | mms_ | mtn: how do I install that ? I do not want to loose existing kernel option |
| 17:10.24 | MartinCleaver | y, I did just ask in #proxmox |
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| 17:10.31 | MartinCleaver | thanks anyway :) |
| 17:10.42 | some-cowbell | MartinCleaver: I'm pretty sure "installing to disk" means you're putting a bootstrap-load-the-bootstraploader in the MBR (very beginning of your drive) |
| 17:10.43 | mtn | mms_: at boot don't you have a choice of kernels? did it work with the default kernel to begine with? |
| 17:12.18 | ompaul | MartinCleaver: this is how to do lvm and debian http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.installation-steps.html |
| 17:12.23 | some-cowbell | MartinCleaver: which has been altered with the location of the rest of grub, which it then loads |
| 17:12.49 | mms_ | mtn: yes old default kernel works fine |
| 17:13.01 | mtn | mms_: then don't use the new one :) |
| 17:13.05 | mms_ | mtn: I have 2.6 kernel which works fine |
| 17:13.20 | some-cowbell | it's ok to use that |
| 17:13.21 | ompaul | !lenny-> squeeze |
| 17:13.30 | ompaul | !lenny->squeeze |
| 17:13.57 | mtn | mms_: if you want to pursue using a newer kernel and have video problems, try #intel-gfx as was suggested. |
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| 17:14.04 | mms_ | mtn: actually I have problem with broadcom wifi setup it keeps disconnecting inspite of workaround pos=1 mentioned. so am trying linux 3 kernel since it says its fixed in it. |
| 17:14.19 | mms_ | mtn: trying in intel-gfx too |
| 17:14.23 | mtn | mms_: there are also newer kernels avaiable in backports |
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| 17:14.55 | mms_ | mtn: since its now narrowed down to video issue I think I should go down that path |
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| 17:15.12 | parakeit | hi guys , any ideas how to get wifi working with debian installed on a powerbook g4 ? |
| 17:15.22 | parakeit | it says 'firmware missing' |
| 17:15.23 | babilen | mms_: First and foremost: Forget about your self-compiled 3.16 kernel for now. The kernel that shipped with Debian wheezy is 3.2 and you should work with that unless you already know that that version is to blame. The "old" kernel from squeeze is not recommended in wheezy even though your graphic stack works with it. |
| 17:15.29 | somiaj | parakeit: most cases wifi cards require an addition non-free firmware package |
| 17:15.31 | mtn | mms_: always use a debian kernel if possible |
| 17:15.40 | parakeit | somiaj, ah |
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| 17:15.54 | mms_ | mtn: I do but as I explained I have this issue of wifi. |
| 17:16.04 | somiaj | parakeit: yes the firmware is nonfree, you have to get the .deb from debian non-free (you can also search for it at packages.debian.org and download it there if youd ont' have another connenction on that machine to use apt) |
| 17:16.28 | parakeit | somiaj, oh ok. thanks. let me look now |
| 17:16.34 | mms_ | babilen: I do not mind adding 3.2 from wheezy tell me how to add it keeping old 2.6 also in there |
| 17:16.39 | babilen | mms_: And *iff* you really need a newer kernel than the 3.2 in wheezy (which is unlikely as the 2.6.32 in squeeze seems to support your card just fine) then use the 3.14 in backports (/msg dpkg bdo kernel). I still suspect that this is an error with KMS (hence the "nomodeset" suggestion, but IIRC i915 needs KMS) |
| 17:16.40 | somiaj | parakeit: we would have to know more about yoru card to tell you what package you need, but they are usually nice named (firmware-realtek, firmware-iwlwifi, etc) |
| 17:17.03 | some-cowbell | , versions boot-repair |
| 17:17.04 | judd | No package named 'boot-repair' was found in i386. |
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| 17:17.08 | mms_ | babilen: I added nomodeset and no progress |
| 17:17.33 | mms_ | babilen: old kernel did not have kms |
| 17:17.39 | babilen | mms_: You had the 3.2 kernel installed the last time you pasted the "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'linux-image-*'" output. Fwiw, it is the "linux-image-686-pae" metapackage you are interested in (and the 3.2.0 kernel it pulls in) |
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| 17:18.23 | babilen | mms_: Yes, kms is the major difference that comes to mind. And please be specific "old kernel" could, in your current setup refer to both 3.2 and 2.6.32 |
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| 17:18.45 | mms_ | no its 2.6 |
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| 17:19.01 | mms_ | babilen: sorry about confusion...old is 2.6 and new is 3.16rc2 |
| 17:19.08 | mms_ | let me try x cnofigure |
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| 17:19.36 | adamsilver | is this correct to set a cron every friday at 12: * 12 * * 5 ? |
| 17:19.37 | some-cowbell | the 3.16 didn't come with wheezy tho, or did it? |
| 17:19.45 | somiaj | xorg most likely won't need any configureation mms_ for the intell drivers. |
| 17:20.01 | mms_ | I upgraded from squeeze |
| 17:20.08 | somiaj | some-cowbell: no but newer kenerls are provided via wheezy-backports, though last I checked 3.14 was the version there, I think he made a custom one. |
| 17:20.09 | mms_ | somiaj: why ? |
| 17:20.16 | some-cowbell | adam, also set which minute or it will do every minute |
| 17:20.46 | somiaj | mms_: xorg usually correctly autodetects what is needed. There are rare cases you need a few config lines when xorg detects thing wrong, but theo nly time I see peopl ehave ot use a config file is for non-free drivers. |
| 17:21.46 | somiaj | mms_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a good place to see what xorg detected and maybe why it failed to load the correct drivers and then falls back to vesa |
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| 17:22.33 | mms_ | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/107182/ ....after hang boot I collected it from recovery boot. |
| 17:23.11 | rsc | Could somebody provide me the default content of /etc/pam.d/smtp of Debian 5, 6 and 7? Or which package does own/contain /etc/pam.d/smtp? I am not a Debian user... ;-) |
| 17:23.18 | babilen | mms_: You don't have to configure Xorg, it should figure out the applicable settings automatically. What I'd like to see though is the behaviour in the standard configuration (i.e. with the 3.2 kernel) with both "nomodeset" and without. |
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| 17:23.34 | babilen | Anyway, bbl |
| 17:23.58 | some-cowbell | , file /etc/pam.d/smtp |
| 17:24.03 | judd | Search for /etc/pam.d/smtp in wheezy/i386: sendmail-base: etc/pam.d/smtp |
| 17:24.05 | somiaj | rsc: dpkg -S /etc/pam.d/smtp |
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| 17:24.14 | some-cowbell | there ya go |
| 17:25.40 | Eremiell | Hi! I'm having some troubles forcing my debian box to change the default $PATH (for all users incl. root). I already edited /etc/profile and /etc/login.defs and rebooted the machine. still not there. |
| 17:25.45 | mms_ | babilen: from 2.6 kernel I had seen i915 module...but in 3.16 I did not see it...in recovery from command line I did modprobe i915 it gives me same blank screen...so it seems some issue with X |
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| 17:26.14 | mms_ | I cannot even exit the blank screen |
| 17:26.26 | mms_ | I am forced to hard stop and reboot |
| 17:26.30 | mtn | mms_: time and time again we have told you not to use the 3.16 kernel. use a newer one from backports if you need a newer one. |
| 17:26.31 | somiaj | Eremiell: It is common to modify/configure the path from user configs when they login (eg $HOME/.bashrc or .bash_profile) could it be the settings are just be overwritten by user settings? |
| 17:27.02 | somiaj | mms_: might want to disable your display manager while you debug this so you can boot into your system to a console just fine |
| 17:27.05 | somiaj | !nodm |
| 17:27.07 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 17:27.26 | mms_ | https://scottlinux.com/2013/11/23/how-to-install-newer-kernel-from-debian-wheezy-backports/ |
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| 17:27.55 | mms_ | somiaj: not sure how I will debug further... |
| 17:28.13 | mms_ | I am thinking to use those instructions in link above |
| 17:28.34 | Eremiell | somiaj: don't think so. my .bashrc says just the default stuff (export PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH) and I still get the original PATH. |
| 17:28.35 | babilen | mms_: Well, why don't you try booting the 3.2 kernel with both nomodeset and without and paste the respective Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net to begin with? |
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| 17:28.59 | babilen | We've been sort of hinting at this procedure for a while now |
| 17:28.59 | mms_ | babilen: again there is no 3.2 ....I have 2.6 and 3.16 |
| 17:29.20 | somiaj | Eremiell: hmm, yea I have never had a reason to change the deafult $PATH, why are you trying to do this? maybe you have an XY problem going on |
| 17:29.21 | Eremiell | somiaj: it's possible SOME users messed it up for them in this way, but this happens to ALL users. |
| 17:29.21 | mtn | heh |
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| 17:29.27 | babilen | mms_: And what do you typically do in those cases? Btw, you *had* a 3.2 kernel installed before. |
| 17:29.34 | mms_ | babilen: so tell me you want to see 2.6 w/o nomodeset since its already working fine |
| 17:29.44 | babilen | I don't |
| 17:29.47 | mms_ | babilen: I had 3.15.2 ... |
| 17:30.12 | Eremiell | somiaj: need to get a whole bin folder of one opt non-packaged thing on PATH. |
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| 17:30.53 | mms_ | amd64 kernel will be right for me for intel atom ? |
| 17:30.58 | babilen | mms_: You pasted http://paste.debian.net/107142/ earlier which clearly shows that you *do* have a 3.2 kernel installed. So boot that with and without nomodeset and paste the Xorg.0.log |
| 17:31.19 | babilen | mms_: Or are you saying that you don't have that option in the grub menu? |
| 17:31.26 | babilen | (did you upgrade to grub-pc already?) |
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| 17:31.52 | mms_ | babilen: what I pasted was for 3.16rc2...I do not know why it print 3.2 there |
| 17:31.55 | somiaj | Eremiell: do you have to include that in your path, would 'ln -fs /opt/foo/bin/* /usr/local/bin/' do the same thing. That is the solution I use. |
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| 17:32.15 | babilen | mms_: You have that kernel installed. It shows us that on line 19 |
| 17:32.22 | somiaj | Eremiell: again I'm also as confused as you, changing login.defs should change the default path, not sure what else could be overwriting that. |
| 17:32.23 | mms_ | babilen: what you see in eariler paste is w/o nomodeset |
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| 17:32.35 | okee | Is there a viable method of installing Google Chrome on Debian? I need both Google Chrome as well as Chromium for testing purposes. I already have Chromium. |
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| 17:32.44 | Eremiell | somiaj: not really clean. binaries in that folder might and will change in future versions. |
| 17:32.46 | babilen | mms_: KMS has *no* influence on the set of packages you have installed. |
| 17:33.03 | babilen | okee: Ask in a Chrome channel? |
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| 17:33.14 | okee | babilen> Thanks. |
| 17:33.18 | mms_ | babilen: that paste ...that kernel is not there in grub list at all |
| 17:33.22 | somiaj | Eremiell: yea the only time I have changed my path I do it for my own user, never ahd to do it system wide. |
| 17:33.25 | babilen | okee: But you should be able to just download and install it. |
| 17:33.36 | babilen | mms_: Okay, so *that* is a problem. Which grub version do you use? |
| 17:33.45 | somiaj | okee: google provides a debian repo for chrome, and a .deb package. They are not supported here but should work. |
| 17:33.47 | mms_ | babilen: grub2 |
| 17:33.57 | mms_ | babilen: that kernel is not in /boot dir |
| 17:34.10 | babilen | mms_: And the last 10 times that I asked you to confirm something on 3.2 you simply thought "ah, sod this, I just try it on 2.6.32!" ? |
| 17:34.13 | okee | somiaj> Thanks. I need to test all possible browsers for development, so that is helpful. |
| 17:34.38 | mms_ | babilen: I have never had been successful in getting 3.2 to work ...I must have tried in some months back |
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| 17:35.37 | babilen | mms_: That is highgly irregular. Mind pasting the output of "apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6-686 linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae" also install debsums and show me the output of "dpkg -L linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae" and "debsums linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae" on http://paste.debian.net please |
| 17:36.13 | mms_ | babilen: sorry I never use pae...it nver worked for me... |
| 17:36.13 | Eremiell | somiaj: I already solved this very problem about a year ago and I remember, there was a solution and was an elusive one. some obscure conf file somewhere. but can't recall which and internets are silent too. |
| 17:36.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell mms_ about 686-pae |
| 17:36.42 | babilen | mms_: Why can't you simply do what I suggest for once? |
| 17:36.58 | babilen | *exactly* that |
| 17:37.01 | mms_ | ok let me get it |
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| 17:37.11 | mms_ | babilen: I will need to reboot in recovery |
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| 17:37.15 | babilen | Not some weird mms_ approximation of what you think I ask you to do |
| 17:37.47 | babilen | mms_: I'd also suggest to follow somiaj's advice and disable your display manager for the time being. |
| 17:37.50 | mms_ | babilen: I think I need to boot into 2.6 |
| 17:37.58 | Fusl | can someone help me with fixing the latest openssl vulnerablities? some websites say that 0.9.8o-4squeeze14 is not vulnerable but apparently it is... at least with a setup of nginx |
| 17:38.02 | mms_ | babilen: how do I disable it ? |
| 17:38.10 | somiaj | Eremiell: well I did a 'grep -r PATH /etc/*' and didn't find any places that you didn't mention, also google suggested you changed it in the correct spots |
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| 17:38.29 | mms_ | somiaj: disable x using /etc/init.d ? |
| 17:38.32 | babilen | Fusl: The version in squeeze is too old and doesn't have that vulnerability. How do you test if you are vulnerable? |
| 17:38.45 | mms_ | gdm3 ? |
| 17:38.57 | babilen | mms_: A while back somiaj invoked the <nodm> factoid. I would suggest to scroll back an read it. |
| 17:38.59 | Fusl | babilen: https://filippo.io/Heartbleed/#pre.im |
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| 17:40.49 | Eremiell | somiaj: I guess I'll try to ask at OFTC and then I'll be to realm of dirty hacks. |
| 17:40.52 | parakeet | how are you supposed to pronounce debian? 'debbie ann' or 'dib buy an' ? |
| 17:41.09 | MrAnonymous | Why it isn't available in repository http://search.cpan.org/~king/Clipboard/ |
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| 17:42.02 | somiaj | parakeet: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-basic_defs.en.html#s-pronunciation |
| 17:42.08 | parakeet | thanks |
| 17:42.51 | babilen | Fusl: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ is nice too. Could you paste the output of "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l '*ssl*'" on http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 17:43.56 | i5um41ru | I can't install git.. please help.. http://tny.cz/fc4e1e9f how to solve this..? |
| 17:44.22 | Fusl | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/107191/ |
| 17:44.27 | babilen | Fusl: You also seem to be vulnerable to CVE-2014-0224 -- https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0224 (squeeze is still vulnerable and will be, I'd suggest upgrading to wheeze ASAP) |
| 17:44.29 | JyZyXEL | somiaj: then how do you pronounce Deb'-ee-en? :D |
| 17:45.19 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: I don't know, I pronouce things worse than I spell and that is pretty bad. |
| 17:45.31 | Eremiell | i5um41ru: seems like you messed up some other packages. nothing to do with git. try to reinstall them. |
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| 17:46.33 | babilen | Fusl: That SSL version is not vulnerable to heartbleed (it lacks the functionality) -- Are you sure that you don't have some extra libraries installed in /usr/local or so? |
| 17:46.34 | i5um41ru | Eremiell: so, what's the command to do that.? |
| 17:46.43 | parakeet | JyZyXEL, somiaj i was right to pronounce it 'debbie - ian' then |
| 17:46.46 | parakeet | thanks. |
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| 17:47.31 | Eremiell | i5um41ru: depends on state of broken. I'd try to start with (sudo) dpkg-reconfigure <package-name> |
| 17:47.36 | babilen | Fusl: I mean you have a number of packages there that are not in Debian at all and I wonder what you've done to your system's SSL related setup in the past (e.g. libssl095a-dev) -- What does "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy libssl095a-dev" give you? |
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| 17:48.41 | Fusl | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/107192/ |
| 17:48.42 | adh0c | Silly question: if a machine is dropped to runlevel 1, can it still ping? I know single-user mode is supposed to disable networking, but ping is a low-level kernel function that I've seen work when all other networking services are down. |
| 17:48.55 | Fusl | babilen: well, it's not my machine, i'm just helping fixing it |
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| 17:49.19 | babilen | parakeet: "deb-ee-en" is what I hear most frequently (among DDs) with a short "ee" in there so one might render it as "debbie-n" |
| 17:49.26 | i5um41ru | Eremiell: does the package name 'empathy'? |
| 17:49.47 | babilen | Fusl: Ugh, dotdeb :) |
| 17:49.52 | babilen | dpkg: tell Fusl -about dotdeb |
| 17:49.54 | parakeet | ah |
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| 17:50.05 | babilen | Fusl: So einige Leichen im Keller, oder? |
| 17:50.18 | babilen | Fusl: So, hmm... Anything funky in /usr/local ? |
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| 17:51.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell Fusl -about squeeze-lts |
| 17:51.32 | babilen | (but then you better upgrade to wheezy) |
| 17:51.47 | Fusl | babilen: i just tell him that i cannot fix this because he's done shit with that machine... |
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| 17:52.11 | Fusl | babilen: well, that's the point, he does *not* want to upgrade anything... he's one of the guys who say "it works, so i don't have to upgrade... it *may* break when i upgrade, blablabla." |
| 17:52.20 | Eremiell | i5um41ru: there were 3 package names, empathy, libminiupnpc5 and libnatpmp1, but other may appear in the process. haven't you manualy romevo some files rom /lib or something? |
| 17:52.37 | Eremiell | *remove from |
| 17:52.39 | Eremiell | meh... |
| 17:52.40 | babilen | Fusl: Heh, that's naturally an option too, but I still wonder why that box is vulnerable to heartbleed as the functionality that makes heartbleed possible wasn't present in the version that is installed there. (hence my suspicion that it is somewhere else) |
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| 17:54.06 | babilen | Fusl: Well, it is broken and vulnerable to two major security problems (that we know of so far, run debsecan to find more). https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0224 is not fixed in squeeze (or squeeze-lts at all) and I would strongly recommend to do *something* about that system and an upgrade to wheezy seems to be the most sensible course of action. |
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| 17:54.56 | Fusl | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/107194/ |
| 17:55.23 | babilen | Fusl: "dpkg -S /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0" ? |
| 17:55.50 | Fusl | babilen: dpkg: /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 not found. |
| 17:55.51 | i5um41ru | Eremiell: solved :) ,, i remove the empathy*list.. |
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| 17:56.09 | babilen | Fusl: "ls -l /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0" ? |
| 17:56.19 | Fusl | babilen: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 479392 Sep 28 2013 /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 |
| 17:56.46 | babilen | Fusl: there you go, a manually installed (and vulnerable) libssl.so.1.0.0 library |
| 17:56.53 | Eremiell | i5um41ru: that's some gui tool, from gnome suite, if I remember well. now go grab git. ;) |
| 17:57.25 | babilen | Fusl: It should be pointed out that libssl1.0.0 was never in squeeze |
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| 17:57.56 | Cpuroast | libssl0.9.8 |
| 17:57.58 | babilen | Fusl: On top of which that library was manually installed to /usr/lib which I consider a big red warning flag in itself. |
| 17:57.59 | Cpuroast | was it for squeeze |
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| 17:58.28 | babilen | (as opposed to /usr/local/lib that is) |
| 17:58.53 | Fusl | babilen: "yea i probably compiled it at one point" ... i hope you get now what type of sysadmin he is ... |
| 17:59.02 | babilen | Fusl: Run "debsecan", but I really wouldn't trust that system anymore. Who knows what else hides in the cellar? ;) |
| 17:59.09 | mms_ | babilen: file size is larger than 150k so sending to dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/s/l7ze6qpot54f8qy/a.txt |
| 17:59.34 | babilen | dpkg: tell Fusl about debsecan |
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| 18:00.20 | Cpuroast | squeeze-lts is recommended and it's not like it has too many package changes since squeeze |
| 18:00.31 | Fusl | debsecan is cool |
| 18:00.32 | Cpuroast | they are focusing on common packages |
| 18:00.51 | Cpuroast | with potential security issues |
| 18:00.54 | babilen | mms_: So you must have manually removed /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae (and the other files in there) at one point. Reinstall that package and run "debsums -s" to find other broken packages. |
| 18:01.15 | rednaks | hi, I'm having some issue to install bumblebee on wheezy any help ? :) |
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| 18:01.21 | rednaks | this is the error I get : http://pastebin.com/EKVEssXg |
| 18:01.35 | rednaks | and I'm following this tutorial : https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 18:01.36 | mms_ | babilen: yes...I did not know how to get it out and just removed the files |
| 18:01.43 | babilen | Fusl: It is indeed. You might also want to install debian-goodies and run "checkrestart" and install debsums and run "debsums -s". But my advice would be: Backup the data, install wheezy from scratch and take it from there. |
| 18:01.50 | babilen | mms_: Don't do that. |
| 18:02.06 | babilen | mms_: *never* manually delete files that are under the control of the package manager |
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| 18:02.55 | mms_ | babilen: so installing it will not remove my existing 2.6 right ? |
| 18:03.03 | mms_ | what command ? |
| 18:03.22 | Brigo | mms_, right |
| 18:03.27 | mms_ | same package you mentioned earlier |
| 18:03.29 | mms_ | ? |
| 18:03.44 | babilen | mms_: Just reinstall the linux-image-3.2.0-686-pae package |
| 18:03.48 | mms_ | ok |
| 18:04.00 | Eremiell | somiaj: I have some traces. someone mentiones just btw on one forum, that gdm messed with his PATH. now, I don't have gdm, I have lightdm, but it's initscript appears to contain PATH=... lines and I get the PATH right on tty1-6, only in X session it's broken. |
| 18:04.10 | babilen | mms_: linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae that is |
| 18:04.30 | mms_ | babilen: it says its already newest |
| 18:04.41 | babilen | rednaks: What does "apt-cache policy socat" give you? did you enable multiarch and i386 already and ran "apt-get update" ? |
| 18:04.44 | mms_ | babilen: did not download any thing |
| 18:04.49 | babilen | mms_: Yes, *reinstall* it. |
| 18:05.00 | mms_ | babilen: I had done apt-get update |
| 18:05.09 | mms_ | babilen: earlier when you told me once |
| 18:05.10 | rednaks | babilen, socat: |
| 18:05.10 | rednaks | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.10 | rednaks | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.10 | rednaks | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:05.13 | babilen | mms_: "apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae" |
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| 18:05.44 | rednaks | oups sorry :) |
| 18:05.47 | Cpuroast | babilen: wouldn't simply doing: "apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae" simply remove all traces of the incomplete package? |
| 18:06.01 | rednaks | babilen, yes I did enable multiarch |
| 18:06.19 | mms_ | babilen: now its downloading |
| 18:06.38 | Cpuroast | I guess better, to re-install and then do a clean removal |
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| 18:07.48 | mms_ | babilen: then now what ? |
| 18:08.21 | mms_ | babilen: reboot using it ? |
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| 18:09.32 | mms_ | I am going to have multiple images in /boot later how to remove them ? |
| 18:09.49 | mms_ | should I do grub-install ? |
| 18:09.53 | Cpuroast | no |
| 18:10.01 | mms_ | then why had me insatll ? |
| 18:10.09 | Cpuroast | simple |
| 18:10.16 | somiaj | mms_: you manage packages (software isntalled) with dpkg/apt, apt-get remove them. |
| 18:10.17 | Cpuroast | you now have a complete package |
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| 18:10.28 | babilen | mms_: Run "update-grub2" and verify that the 3.2 kernel is being listed. Also check contents of /boot/ |
| 18:10.28 | Cpuroast | now you can cleanly remove it |
| 18:10.44 | mms_ | babilen: it printed and its on file system too |
| 18:10.47 | babilen | No, don't remove it |
| 18:10.49 | Cpuroast | ah, his goal is to actually use 3.2 |
| 18:10.51 | jmcnaught | Cpuroast: you might be coming late to this discussion, mms_ has been trying to get on a stock kernel for a while now |
| 18:10.51 | babilen | yes |
| 18:10.53 | mms_ | babilen: still want to do update-grub2 ? |
| 18:10.57 | Cpuroast | ah I see |
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| 18:11.09 | Cpuroast | wheezy? |
| 18:11.11 | Cpuroast | or squeeze? |
| 18:11.33 | mms_ | babilen: install already did that...any ways I did it again now |
| 18:11.37 | babilen | Cpuroast: Yes, I try to get mms_ to use a 3.2 kernel for hours now. (S)He proved to be particularly stubborn in insisting on doing something else so, ... |
| 18:11.38 | mms_ | image sare there in /boot |
| 18:11.52 | babilen | mms_: Ack, you know what to do |
| 18:11.57 | Cpuroast | ah |
| 18:12.06 | mms_ | babilen: I checked files are there |
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| 18:12.22 | babilen | rednaks: Mind pasting the output again to http://paste.debian.net and not into the channel? |
| 18:12.30 | mms_ | babilen: now ? |
| 18:12.39 | babilen | mms_: Guess |
| 18:12.44 | mms_ | babilen: now grub-install ? |
| 18:12.50 | mms_ | and boot into pae ? |
| 18:12.50 | babilen | no, next try |
| 18:12.58 | Cpuroast | mms_: you are on wheezy or squeeze? |
| 18:13.00 | mms_ | babilen: what ? |
| 18:13.04 | mms_ | wheezy |
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| 18:13.08 | Cpuroast | ah ok |
| 18:13.10 | Cpuroast | so you should be on 3.2 |
| 18:13.11 | babilen | You are getting closer. What did you ask you to do for some five hours now? |
| 18:13.12 | mms_ | I upgraded from squeeze |
| 18:13.25 | babilen | err, "did I ask you to ..." |
| 18:13.41 | mms_ | babilen: you are puzzling |
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| 18:14.04 | mms_ | babilen: again reboot into new 3.16 ? |
| 18:14.08 | Cpuroast | let me roll up |
| 18:14.12 | Cpuroast | to get an idea |
| 18:14.13 | rednaks | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/107195/ |
| 18:14.21 | mms_ | and see if 3.2 install fixed any ting ? |
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| 18:14.58 | babilen | mms_: I don't want you to do *anything* with 3.16. Every instruction that I give you is not applicable to 3.16 but to 3.2. |
| 18:15.12 | mms_ | babilen: ok so then what to do now ? |
| 18:15.35 | babilen | mms_: I want you to boot into 3.2 with and without nomodeset and check the behaviour there. In particular I asked you to paste the respective Xorg.0.log if you remember. |
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| 18:15.51 | mms_ | babilen: yes ok for 3.2 I will do it now right ? |
| 18:16.06 | mms_ | for that I need to do grub-install ? |
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| 18:16.48 | tharkun | What is my weapon of choice If I wanto to connect to an L2TP VPN ? |
| 18:16.49 | babilen | rednaks: That's unusual. What does "apt-cache policy" give you and what about "head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}" ? |
| 18:16.51 | mms_ | 3.2 was not in my boot menu without grub-install will it show up with just update-grub2 ? |
| 18:17.00 | babilen | mms_: No, you don't have to run grub-install. |
| 18:17.05 | mms_ | ok |
| 18:17.08 | mms_ | let me reboot now |
| 18:17.15 | babilen | I won't stop you |
| 18:18.14 | mms_ | babilen: its booting into X |
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| 18:18.35 | mms_ | :-) |
| 18:19.00 | Cpuroast | babilen: I just read up, LOL |
| 18:19.26 | rednaks | babilen, this is for head : http://paste.debian.net/107197/ |
| 18:19.36 | mms_ | how do I know what kernel I am using ? |
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| 18:19.44 | Cpuroast | uname -r |
| 18:19.47 | mms_ | uanme -a shows me that 3.2 string |
| 18:19.59 | babilen | mms_: So it is working now? |
| 18:20.00 | Cpuroast | cat /proc/version |
| 18:20.06 | Cpuroast | will give you a more detailed output |
| 18:20.34 | mms_ | babilen: yes uname -r also shows 3.2... |
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| 18:20.46 | Cpuroast | then yes you are on the proper stock kernel now |
| 18:21.03 | mms_ | so its in but I am yet to test/get my network manager issue which was main reason I was trying 3 kernel |
| 18:21.06 | babilen | mms_: You realise that this was the most unnecessary support session ever, don't you? |
| 18:21.16 | mms_ | babilen: ;-) |
| 18:21.21 | mms_ | babilen: learning... |
| 18:21.24 | babilen | mms_: I am only slightly amused |
| 18:21.31 | Cpuroast | mms_: if you need newer always go for backports |
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| 18:21.32 | Cpuroast | first |
| 18:21.40 | Cpuroast | and using an RC kernel |
| 18:21.43 | Cpuroast | is never recommended |
| 18:22.11 | Cpuroast | 3.14.7 is current wheezy backports |
| 18:22.13 | mms_ | babilen: at work I have captive portal and it disconnects with 2.6 kernel and on net it said that use pio=1 for module paramter...it did not help so am trying kernel 3+ |
| 18:22.16 | babilen | And maybe, just maybe, try the stock configuration first before you try to fix something. You seem to be quite prone to "verschlimmbessern" |
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| 18:22.43 | Cpuroast | you should be on 2.6 on wheezy |
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| 18:22.44 | Cpuroast | at all |
| 18:22.47 | Cpuroast | shouldn't |
| 18:22.49 | mms_ | babilen: its broadcom wifi in my netwbook |
| 18:23.10 | babilen | dpkg: tell mms_ about BCM4312 |
| 18:23.44 | mms_ | babilen: yes I have same b43 |
| 18:24.28 | mms_ | babilen: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 |
| 18:24.30 | babilen | mms_: So read it and act accordingly |
| 18:24.43 | babilen | No, do *not* install any drivers manually. |
| 18:24.51 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 18:25.08 | babilen | mms_: Seriously: Did you read the factoid the bot sent you? |
| 18:25.13 | mms_ | babilen: same thing I did as I mentioned earlier...tried the known issues thing for my kernel |
| 18:25.32 | mms_ | babilen: I read that page I gave url |
| 18:25.38 | babilen | ... |
| 18:27.20 | mms_ | babilen: apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer....I think I used that |
| 18:27.32 | mms_ | how to confirm ? |
| 18:28.24 | mms_ | babilen: yes aptitude search shows lpply as installed |
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| 18:28.38 | babilen | mms_: And with this I will respectfully decline to support you from now on. Feel free to find other people in this channel to cater to your whims, but I unfortunately arrived at the conclusion that my time is spent more productively doing something else. |
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| 18:29.08 | mms_ | babilen: thanks man... |
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| 18:31.49 | mms_ | I have 14E4:4314 pci-id so I have installed correct driver |
| 18:32.01 | mms_ | I have 14E4:4315 pci-id so I have installed correct driver |
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| 18:32.27 | mms_ | but it used to disconnect for captive portal |
| 18:32.37 | mms_ | hopefully with newer kernel its fixed |
| 18:33.07 | jair | I am having a frustrated time, having Java to work on my firefox debian wheezy, I am trying to connect to the browser cli application from amazon |
| 18:33.10 | jair | aws |
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| 18:34.25 | mms_ | how do I remove the entries from boot menu now like for kernels I compiled and that do not work |
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| 18:36.44 | babilen | jair: Please see firefox support in a mozilla channel |
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| 18:37.14 | Cpuroast | mms_: usually you would do, apt-get remove kernel-package-name |
| 18:37.27 | Cpuroast | and it takes care of everthing |
| 18:37.46 | Cpuroast | but since these are custom built firmwares |
| 18:37.50 | mms_ | apt-get remove linux-image-3.15.2 for /boot/initrd.img-3.15.2 ? |
| 18:37.51 | Cpuroast | and not official debian packages |
| 18:38.16 | Cpuroast | these are not official packages |
| 18:38.25 | Cpuroast | apt-get remove can only remove official packages |
| 18:38.32 | Cpuroast | which is why sticking with stock kernels |
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| 18:38.39 | Cpuroast | is high highly highly recommended |
| 18:38.52 | mms_ | ok then for linux kernel compiled how to remvoe now ? |
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| 18:40.27 | jair | babilen: that is the easiest poorest answer to help a user here in the channel |
| 18:40.38 | jair | babilen: but thank you let others help |
| 18:40.39 | Cpuroast | at this point, you'd have to remove the kernel images |
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| 18:41.06 | jair | so what is the recommended debian way to install Java this days? |
| 18:41.12 | Cpuroast | and then run update-grub2 |
| 18:41.29 | babilen | jair: Feel free to use Iceweasel |
| 18:41.42 | Cpuroast | mms_: pastebin a directory listing |
| 18:41.44 | Cpuroast | of your /boot |
| 18:41.46 | Cpuroast | folder |
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| 18:41.58 | jair | are we going with the opensource version or it is more reliable to go with the oracle version (I can't stand Oracel) |
| 18:42.02 | jair | Oracle |
| 18:42.11 | abrotman | jair: pick the one you want to use |
| 18:42.44 | mms_ | Cpuroast: I think we shall have to manually delete ? |
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| 18:42.52 | abrotman | jair: if you don't like icedtea for your JRE, use the oracle one, or one o fthe other 15 |
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| 18:42.59 | Cpuroast | mms_: most likely ye |
| 18:43.00 | Cpuroast | yes |
| 18:43.08 | Cpuroast | that's why I said pastebin a directory listing |
| 18:43.10 | Cpuroast | of your /boot |
| 18:43.12 | mms_ | Cpuroast: I see System.map, vmlinuz, initrd, config 4 types |
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| 18:43.24 | Cpuroast | http://pastebin.com/ |
| 18:43.30 | abrotman | please use paste.debian.net |
| 18:43.32 | mms_ | Cpuroast: I will login then from netbook to paste it |
| 18:43.34 | mms_ | 1 min |
| 18:43.35 | abrotman | please get cranky when you use pastebin |
| 18:43.44 | Cpuroast | fine |
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| 18:43.52 | jair | abrotman: long time. I installed this version: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_45-b18) from this web site's instructions: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html |
| 18:44.02 | abrotman | and what? |
| 18:44.27 | abrotman | uh .. s/please/people/ |
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| 18:45.30 | Fusl | hmm, what exactly does debsecon check? |
| 18:45.45 | Fusl | i just upgraded my private mailserver system and it keeps telling me that there are vulnerablities |
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| 18:45.58 | Fusl | > http://paste.debian.net/107201/ |
| 18:45.58 | mms_ | Cpuroast: http://paste.debian.net/107200/ |
| 18:46.08 | abrotman | dpkg: telk Fusl about tracker of doom |
| 18:46.09 | dpkg | abrotman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 18:46.23 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Fusl about tracker of doom |
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| 18:47.07 | piko``` | ompaul: I tried your approach (separate TUN/TAP interface instead of bridge) and it is working now ... and I consider to install some helper daemons on the host (DNS proxy, NTP server, package repository proxy ...). But I am not sure on which interface should these daemons listen - 127.0.0.0/8 would not work, neither would any physical interfaces. The only idea I have is to try to alias the loopback device but that is pretty awful in my |
| 18:47.07 | piko``` | eyes. Is there any better option used usually for Linux virtualization? |
| 18:47.49 | jair | but if you sometimes develop or test virtual machines in amazon, the java setting keeps blocking to run java applications from the browser: with this error: "Java applications are blocked by your security settings" but I go to the javaws java control panel and even disable security but I am still getting the same block |
| 18:48.14 | Cpuroast | mms_: feel free to manually remove all files with 3.15.2 and 3.16.0-rc2 |
| 18:48.15 | mms_ | Cpuroast: looks like remove 4 files per kernenl version not needed from /boot and also then /lib/modules and then do update grub ? |
| 18:48.32 | mms_ | ok |
| 18:48.41 | ompaul | piko```: it depends on what you want to achieve, your first statement was "I have a broken bridging" |
| 18:48.48 | abrotman | Fusl: is tha twhat you were asking about? |
| 18:49.01 | ompaul | piko```: a list of objectives might get you better advice than a random question |
| 18:49.03 | Fusl | not really no |
| 18:49.15 | Cpuroast | mms_: 2.6.32-5-686 is an official debian package |
| 18:49.30 | abrotman | Fusl: Can you give me one CVE to use? |
| 18:49.33 | Fusl | babilen told me about the debsecon command but i'm not entirely sure what it does |
| 18:49.38 | Cpuroast | mms_: so you can do apt-get remove 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 18:49.41 | Fusl | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/107201/ |
| 18:49.50 | Cpuroast | after you've remove the custom kernels |
| 18:50.02 | Cpuroast | and it will do update-grub2 |
| 18:50.12 | mms_ | Cpuroast: I got rid of self compiled ones...for some time I feel I should keep around 2.6 |
| 18:50.25 | mms_ | ok now remove from /lib/modules ? |
| 18:50.30 | abrotman | Fusl: you mean debsecan, right ? not con ? |
| 18:50.39 | Cpuroast | mms_: I wouldn't worry about the modules |
| 18:50.44 | Fusl | ah yea, sorry |
| 18:50.47 | Cpuroast | they just take a bit of extra space |
| 18:50.51 | abrotman | just making sure |
| 18:50.52 | mms_ | ok just to save sapce |
| 18:51.13 | Cpuroast | paste bin /lib/modules |
| 18:51.27 | mms_ | its 67 mb each |
| 18:51.50 | mms_ | 2.6.32-5-686 3.15.2 3.16.0-rc2 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 18:52.11 | Cpuroast | yah, feel free to nuke 3.15.2, 3.16-rc2 |
| 18:52.15 | mms_ | ok |
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| 18:52.41 | mms_ | ok now update grub ? |
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| 18:53.04 | Cpuroast | yup |
| 18:53.05 | Cpuroast | update-grub2 |
| 18:53.06 | mms_ | update-grub2 ? |
| 18:53.30 | Cpuroast | so your /boot and /lib/modules only contain 2.6 and 3.2? |
| 18:53.34 | mms_ | ok cool done |
| 18:53.38 | mms_ | yes |
| 18:53.50 | Cpuroast | ok, you should only have 2 kernels in your boot menu now |
| 18:54.00 | mms_ | now monday I will test captive portal at work if new kernel fixed it |
| 18:54.07 | mms_ | Cpuroast: ok |
| 18:54.24 | abrotman | Fusl: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2006-7250 |
| 18:54.28 | abrotman | Fusl: for example |
| 18:54.42 | Cpuroast | mms_: when you are ok with 3.2 |
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| 18:55.14 | Cpuroast | you can remove 2.6, using "apt-get remove 2.6.32-5-686" |
| 18:55.21 | Cpuroast | which will take care of everything |
| 18:55.23 | mms_ | ok |
| 18:55.26 | Fusl | abrotman: well, but WHAT does debsecan do? i mean, from what i understood, it checks my installed packages and checks if they're vulnerable according to the version installed |
| 18:55.47 | Cpuroast | mms_: and never manually remove files belonging to debian package |
| 18:55.56 | Cpuroast | again |
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| 18:56.24 | mms_ | Cpuroast: ok...I just turned on wifi on netbook and the wifi list does not show all wifi scan n/w...I have to do that from command line |
| 18:56.28 | abrotman | Fusl: it's supposed to show CVEs that might affect your system .. I have no idea why it's showing a CVE from 2006 |
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| 18:56.32 | Cpuroast | apt-get remove and apt-get purge are your friends :) |
| 18:56.40 | mms_ | Cpuroast: ok |
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| 19:00.42 | Cpuroast | babilen: progress :) |
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| 19:00.55 | nell | hey im looking for a stl viewer that works with debian |
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| 19:02.12 | Cpuroast | babilen: lets hope he keeps using the package system the correct way |
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| 19:04.33 | martinus | Hi #debian. Could anyone advise me on if I should be expecting significantly longer boot times since migrating to systemd? (debian unstable) |
| 19:04.44 | rednaks | I would like to update glibc to 2.14 in debian wheezy, do you think that's a good idea ? do you think that it can break my system ? |
| 19:04.55 | teraflops | no martinus |
| 19:05.25 | piko``` | Well, I am running/testing some servers in the virtual machines and I want to keep them isolated (hence the virtual machines) but I also search for a way how to install them automatically, unify their DNS access (and add some special entries just for these virtual machines) or to keep some small package repository on the host to ease upgrades. These are my objectives and I see two ways - to have a special virtual machine for these tasks |
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| 19:05.25 | piko``` | or to run that on the host itself. What do you think? |
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| 19:05.36 | MrAnonymous | martinus: hmm... maybe, install systemd yourself? |
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| 19:05.51 | martinus | My boot time has increased to a minimum of 3x what it was prior to systemd. |
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| 19:06.32 | babilen | rednaks: You really shouldn't - get wheezy packages of whatever software this is about. |
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| 19:07.11 | babilen | rednaks: You could run jessie or a different supporter distribution if that is not an option. |
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| 19:08.08 | rednaks | so building form sources is not recomended :/ |
| 19:08.25 | martinus | Ok, time for a debugging-enabled reboot. Thanks for the info. |
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| 19:09.58 | teraflops | may be time to jornalctl martinus |
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| 19:15.17 | babilen | rednaks: which software is this about? |
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| 19:17.23 | rednaks | babilen, I'm not installing a software for daily use, I'm planning to contribute to servo, and build servo, requires glibc-2.14 |
| 19:17.39 | rednaks | it seems that debian is not the most suitable distro for development :/ |
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| 19:19.41 | babilen | rednaks: Feel free to track jessie |
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| 19:22.30 | furhun_ | Debian wheezy, Rhythmbox doesnt keep playing when i close the window.. it should continue running iin the bg |
| 19:25.57 | some-cowbell | furhun, you're telling it to quit |
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| 19:32.51 | squisher | furhun_, there may be a config option to enable a tray icon (I don't use rhythmbox myself) |
| 19:33.16 | furhun_ | no one appears to... im searching for extensions |
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| 19:36.45 | furhun_ | squisher: can you suggest a good media player that does run in bg? |
| 19:36.58 | squisher | furhun_, depending on what desktop you use, I'd just keep the window open on a different virtual desktop |
| 19:37.09 | teraflops | use mpd furhun_ :P |
| 19:37.17 | lucido | how can I specify which network device gets to be eth0? |
| 19:37.21 | furhun_ | i installed and removed mpd just now... |
| 19:37.26 | furhun_ | squisher: GNOME3 |
| 19:37.40 | squisher | furhun_, mpd is for advanced users (network playback) |
| 19:37.45 | teraflops | what a sin furhun_ |
| 19:37.56 | jmcnaught | furhun_: i think with the new gnome-shell paradigm in Gnome 3, the idea is that you would run Rhythmbox in its own virtual desktop |
| 19:38.04 | squisher | furhun_, I use audacious, but it's kinda old-school (no library afaik) |
| 19:38.26 | furhun_ | ah yes i always install but never use audacious squisher |
| 19:38.38 | furhun_ | does it run in background? :D |
| 19:38.48 | squisher | teraflops, how's that constructive? I'm sure when someone is tired of gnome3 they will ask about alternatives |
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| 19:39.26 | lucido | answering my own question: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 19:39.33 | squisher | furhun_, yes, it has the option (plugins->status tray->close to status tray) |
| 19:39.52 | furhun_ | (y) i think il install it again |
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| 19:41.26 | teraflops | furhun_: thats th point of using linux, a bunch of alternatives |
| 19:41.59 | furhun_ | teraflops: the reason i love linux is like the feeling that at the end of the day everything shares the same shit |
| 19:42.46 | furhun_ | ive always pictured the linux side as LAYERS.. the bottom layer comprising of the kernel, followed by more shit, then soon u reach the X, followed by the DM,then the WM e.t.c. |
| 19:42.49 | teraflops | sure, but i dont thing is a shit |
| 19:42.59 | teraflops | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.03 | teraflops | I* |
| 19:43.14 | furhun_ | teraflops: i dont get u |
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| 19:44.14 | teraflops | sorry furhun_ my english is awfull |
| 19:44.48 | furhun_ | teraflops. no problem |
| 19:45.05 | furhun_ | squisher: my media control buttons arent working with audacious :S |
| 19:45.05 | teraflops | but anyway furhun_ i dont know anything more powerfull that mpd/ncmpcpp for its purposses |
| 19:45.17 | furhun_ | probably not |
| 19:45.33 | squisher | furhun_, I think there's a plugin for that... did you enable it? |
| 19:45.46 | furhun_ | what could it be called? |
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| 19:46.01 | squisher | global hotkeys |
| 19:46.13 | porton | How to get the list of all interpreters supported by Debian? `apt-cache search devel::interpreter` outputs nothing |
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| 19:48.06 | furhun_ | squisher: figured it out.. done |
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| 19:51.07 | jmcnaught | porton: try using debtags "debtags search devel::interpreter" |
| 19:52.23 | porton | I have (probably a far future) plan to set a Debian server which under certain condition would run scripts to transform XML data. I want to support many of the script languages which are packaged for Debian. How to build the full list of script languages I should install. Is `debtags search devel::interpreter` a good list? |
| 19:52.42 | porton | ? |
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| 19:53.26 | furhun_ | jmcnaught!!! |
| 19:53.31 | jmcnaught | porton: i don't know how complete the tagging information is, but it looks like it would certainly be a good start |
| 19:53.48 | porton | jmcnaught: But should I install ALL of them? |
| 19:54.17 | some-cowbell | porton, for what purpose? |
| 19:54.32 | jmcnaught | porton: uhhmmm... that's up to you. I guess if you plan on using them all. If you're going to install them all, i'd do it in a VM personally |
| 19:55.09 | porton | some-cowbell: A technology which automatically transform XML documents from the Web based on their namespaces, as a HTTP proxy server: http://freesoft.portonvictor.org/namespaces.xml |
| 19:55.11 | jmcnaught | furhun_: please stop telling dpkg to tell me hello. If you need help with something I'm willing to make suggestions in the channel |
| 19:56.00 | furhun_ | jmcnaught: if you know of a way i can get Rhythmbox to run in BG when i press the X button.. also a nice system tray wont go bad ;) |
| 19:56.31 | porton | It means, that a user of my server points a script language and then it is run by my server (I do not need to know all languages for my server to do this) |
| 19:56.40 | mtn | furhun_: I may have missed something, but what is wrong with running it minimized? |
| 19:57.05 | furhun_ | mtn: dunno.. used to it running in BG |
| 19:57.30 | furhun_ | okay leave this.. i can use audacious... the thing is that my OS is associating mp3 files with the movie player.. any way i can disable that? |
| 19:57.31 | mtn | furhun_: isn't that running it in the background? it sure isn't in the foreground ;) |
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| 19:57.57 | jmcnaught | furhun_: from what I understand the entire Gnome project is trying to move away from applications running in the background/hidden to system tray. The new Gnome 3 way of doing things is to run an app in its own virtual desktop. When you launch Rhythmbox you can middle-click it to have it start in its on virtual desktop, or use the dash overview and drag it there. That way it's not hidden from Alt-Tab |
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| 19:58.23 | mtn | furhun_: right click on an mp3 and go to properties. you should be able to choose a default app to open them |
| 19:58.35 | some-cowbell | porton, I get that part. who's going to use these languages? maybe it's enough that they're available to install, meaning that any time you want a different scripting language, you can easily install it. |
| 19:58.40 | furhun_ | mtn: i know this much :S i want to associate the right DEFAULT app |
| 19:58.54 | furhun_ | jmcnaught: can i prevent mp3s from starting in movie player? |
| 19:59.14 | jmcnaught | furhun_: Under Gnome's "System Settings" click on details, click on default applications, for Music choose a different application |
| 19:59.27 | mtn | furhun_: it will use the "right" one if you tell it to use it ;) |
| 19:59.29 | furhun_ | yes i have done that jmcnaught but that doesnt seem to help |
| 19:59.47 | porton | some-cowbell: Anybody writes and puts in the Web an RDF file which contains the name of the interpreter (such as "#Python") and then my software automatically downloads that file and runs Python (or whatever) on user's request to serve a Web page |
| 20:00.40 | jmcnaught | furhun_: you can also right click an mp3 and select an app under the "Open With" tab as mtn suggested |
| 20:00.44 | porton | So, I want a list of programming languages with good support of XML |
| 20:01.16 | furhun_ | jmcnaught: this is slow and well it bothers me.. id rather set a proper default app... dunno why this is happening |
| 20:01.46 | some-cowbell | at least perl and python. maybe scheme/lisp. |
| 20:01.49 | jmcnaught | furhun_: i don't know either :/ I actually prefer single mp3s to open in Totem |
| 20:02.03 | furhun_ | jmcnaught: :/ |
| 20:02.16 | jmcnaught | porton: sounds like a bit of a security nightmare to be honest. I'd be looking for a way to sandbox each of those interpreters |
| 20:02.17 | porton | For example, I doubt whether to install clif as C is not such a good language for XML processing |
| 20:02.36 | porton | jmcnaught: http://portonsoft.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/toward-robust-linux-sandbox/ |
| 20:03.07 | porton | jmcnaught: That sandbox is necessary is already considered. It remains to do the programming for the sandbox to work |
| 20:03.08 | mtn | furhun_: as I said, you can set the default by right clicking. good luck. |
| 20:03.22 | furhun_ | mtn: looks like i have no choice :S |
| 20:03.37 | some-cowbell | so you're expecting many people to use your thing, it's not just going to be you... |
| 20:03.41 | some-cowbell | yes? |
| 20:04.13 | porton | jmcnaught: I have packaged secils (CIL SELinux policy compiler) for Debian, but we need an update of the upstream. Also we need to develop a policy how to combine together several CIL packages |
| 20:04.37 | porton | some-cowbell: Yes, it is a public server at which anybody in principle can start any interpreter |
| 20:05.17 | porton | (under the condition that I written the class which starts a particular interpreter) |
| 20:05.51 | some-cowbell | starting interpreters is already handled. |
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| 20:06.11 | some-cowbell | you just put the #! line at the top of the file. |
| 20:06.43 | porton | BTW, is anyone interested about how to break CIL policies in separately installable and configurable parts? I have discussed it in @mentors but nobody (except of myself) have written anything substantial on this |
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| 20:07.23 | porton | some-cowbell: To start an interpreter one needs to convert "http://portonvictor.org/ns/trans/scripts/#Python" -> /usr/bin/python |
| 20:09.06 | Mikaela | /usr/bin/env python |
| 20:09.10 | Mikaela | Is recmmended. |
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| 20:10.24 | porton | Mikaela: I don't think it is relevant. Anyway I am going to run Python in a sandbox |
| 20:12.11 | porton | I have uploaded this package: http://mentors.debian.net/package/secilc but it lacks support for adding an additional module to a CIL SELinux policy. Please help me to understand how to do this in the best way |
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| 20:12.55 | porton | I mean: There is a big CIL policy and we could add small additional CIL modules to it. But where and how to specify which modules are compatible with which policies? |
| 20:13.54 | porton | Is there is a quick way to get the list of interpreters which support XML? |
| 20:15.06 | some-cowbell | no, because each interpreter handles that differently |
| 20:15.55 | some-cowbell | otoh, lots of interpreters have modules that do xml parsing |
| 20:16.01 | porton | some-cowbell: Something like `debtags search devel::xml` (Yes, I tested this command and it does not work) |
| 20:16.48 | some-cowbell | what is it the interpreter needs to do with xml? generate it? |
| 20:17.14 | porton | some-cowbell: It needs both read and output an XML. I need XML processing capable interpreters |
| 20:17.57 | porton | some-cowbell: I call this "XML processing interpreter" |
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| 20:18.14 | partitionpenguin | hi! |
| 20:18.18 | partitionpenguin | is anyone there? |
| 20:18.33 | porton | partitionpenguin: 1494 people |
| 20:18.43 | partitionpenguin | ha ha ha!! |
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| 20:19.19 | jmcnaught | porton: "works-with-format::xml" is one of the debtags, but combining it with devel::interpreter doesn't make for a very helpful list. I would guess that most of the interpreted languages packaged for Debian have at least an installable module/library for handling XML |
| 20:19.27 | partitionpenguin | i've got a question about my hp laptop running fedora 20. I am not satisfied with it and I wanted to convert it to knoppix |
| 20:19.43 | some-cowbell | xml output can be easy, you can write programs that print anything... and some xml parsers let you deal with trees that are the result of parsing xml input. a program can then walk the tree to generate another tree, or alter the tree that was input, then output the tree in xml form. |
| 20:19.44 | partitionpenguin | my dvd drive is busted |
| 20:20.09 | jmcnaught | partitionpenguin: there's probably a Knoppix channel you could ask. If you want to use Debian, then we're here to help, otherwise please use the appropriate channel |
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| 20:21.10 | partitionpenguin | and I tried booting with a usb stick, and that worked when I got rid of Windows to turn it in to Fedora, but this time it just booted up fedora anyway |
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| 20:21.46 | partitionpenguin | there are only 9 people there at knoppix |
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| 20:22.08 | some-cowbell | and how many on #fedora? |
| 20:22.28 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell partitionpenguin -about knoppix |
| 20:22.31 | partitionpenguin | on fedora, they said I would get better results asking on #knoppix. |
| 20:22.33 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell partitionpenguin -about based on debian |
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| 20:23.11 | some-cowbell | partitionpenguin: they were probably right... |
| 20:23.37 | porton | We should create a task package which could install all XML processing interpreters together with their XML libraries! |
| 20:23.43 | jmcnaught | partitionpenguin: don't message me please, keep it in the channel |
| 20:23.53 | partitionpenguin | oh. I will take off then! Thanks |
| 20:23.56 | partitionpenguin | quit |
| 20:23.58 | porton | It would help my open source project |
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| 20:24.29 | porton | ... and my project is important enough |
| 20:25.53 | porton | Well, we can go without creating a task. I may add suggestions (or is it recommendations?) to my server package |
| 20:25.57 | xingu | porton: I thought the cool kids were all doing json these days |
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| 20:26.24 | porton | xingu: No namespaces in JSON. So JSON is not a suitable format for a project like mine |
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| 20:30.34 | some-cowbell | to support radeon 3d accel, what lib packages do I need? |
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| 20:31.02 | porton | Some packages which should have Tag: works-with-format::xml don't have it. For example, ruby-libxml - I am filling a bug now |
| 20:31.05 | some-cowbell | using the open-source radeon driver that is |
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| 20:32.22 | jmcnaught | some-cowbell: according to https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo you want libgl1-mesa-dri |
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| 20:36.38 | zykotick9 | some-cowbell: fyi, for 3d you need non-free firmware with ati... |
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| 20:41.41 | martinus | Looks like the super long delays on boot are related to nfs |
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| 20:42.16 | lucido | how can I tell if a usb device is in usb3 or 2 mode? |
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| 20:42.46 | teraflops | isnt the system smarter? |
| 20:42.50 | porton | lucido: `dmesg | tail` after its inserting |
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| 20:44.40 | lucido | porton, guess it is 3.0: usb 3-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd |
| 20:44.47 | porton | lucido: yes |
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| 20:45.18 | teraflops | thats usb3 |
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| 20:46.26 | oi_oi_oi | Hi |
| 20:46.30 | lucido | I have a network speed problem, I have a minipcie usb3.0 adapter card and there is a usb 3.0 gigabeit ether network card connected to it and I'm only getting 20MB/s transfer speeds |
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| 20:46.53 | lucido | should be at least 60-70MB/s |
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| 20:47.11 | Cpuroast | should be |
| 20:47.16 | Cpuroast | USB3 isn't that bad |
| 20:47.18 | Cpuroast | :) |
| 20:47.21 | mrdeb | does linux support usb3 |
| 20:47.28 | Cpuroast | it can easily sustain ~200MB/sec |
| 20:47.29 | porton | mrdeb: it does |
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| 20:47.57 | mrdeb | ok |
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| 20:48.27 | lucido | my usb3.0 network adapter is reported to be able to do 70 easily |
| 20:48.39 | lucido | where'S the bottleneck? |
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| 20:51.30 | mrdeb | lucido: device probably |
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| 20:55.32 | lucido | mrdeb, what device? |
| 20:56.17 | mrdeb | plugged in |
| 20:56.25 | mrdeb | like usb drive |
| 20:57.00 | lucido | mrdeb, I have a gigabit ethernet controller plugged in |
| 20:57.07 | lucido | it's not the bottleneck |
| 20:57.19 | mrdeb | in usb3? |
| 20:57.23 | teraflops | any other devices plugged at all? |
| 20:57.24 | lucido | yes |
| 20:57.28 | mrdeb | why r u using usb for networking |
| 20:57.32 | lucido | teraflops, nope |
| 20:57.39 | lucido | mrdeb, I have to |
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| 20:59.08 | IonCannon218 | Intel igpu with mesa drivers should be able to run some games right? |
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| 20:59.34 | IonCannon218 | nothing will actually run, either with really horrible artifacts or simply crashes |
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| 21:02.44 | Otyugh | ,v youtube-dl |
| 21:02.45 | judd | Package: youtube-dl on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 2012.01.05-2~bpo60+1; jessie: 2014.06.19-1; sid: 2014.06.19-1 |
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| 21:16.12 | adh0c | Hi, is anyone familiar with xen and willing to help me debug a problem? |
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| 21:16.23 | adh0c | I've tried #xen but they're rather quiet over there. |
| 21:16.30 | grogoreo | hi |
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| 21:17.49 | grogoreo | Has anyone tried the super wing-panel from the Elementary project on debian? |
| 21:18.06 | oi_oi_oi | grogoreo: what? |
| 21:19.23 | grogoreo | oi_oi_oi, it's an alternative panel http://www.heath-bar.com/blog/?p=685 |
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| 21:27.37 | martinus | grogoreo: stop making me want to install something soley based on an awesome name. ;) |
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| 21:32.30 | MrAlexandro | . |
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| 21:36.37 | trending | I'm trying to install Mysql on a debian 7 32 bit VPS and I get this error: |
| 21:36.43 | trending | [FAIL] Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
| 21:36.48 | trending | invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. |
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| 21:39.32 | LoveAndHappiness | hi |
| 21:40.09 | LoveAndHappiness | I need help download a video from a website, where can I find assistance on this matter? |
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| 21:40.10 | andrea | ls |
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| 21:40.59 | LoveAndHappiness | 'ello? |
| 21:41.04 | LoveAndHappiness | anyone here |
| 21:41.13 | LoveAndHappiness | 'ello? |
| 21:41.28 | LoveAndHappiness | 'eeeeeelllooo? Je noe soe pa? |
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| 21:42.02 | LoveAndHappiness | _:_ |
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| 21:42.43 | LoveAndHappiness | -.- |
| 21:43.19 | IonCannon218 | since i added i386 to apt, is it save to remove that to remove all i386 packages? |
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| 21:47.49 | LoveAndHappiness | test |
| 21:48.16 | martinus | test successful |
| 21:50.13 | IonCannon218 | wtf is rc in dpkg -l |
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| 21:51.31 | babilen | IonCannon218: You removed it, but configuration files remain |
| 21:51.47 | jmcnaught | LoveAndHappiness: there's always somebody here, tests like that just annoy people :) -- For downloading videos from websites I generally use "unplug" add-on for Iceweasel (installable from within Iceweasel) |
| 21:51.50 | IonCannon218 | yeah so i have to use purge to fully remove it |
| 21:52.26 | babilen | IonCannon218: I would also recommend to think about your strategy to motivate people to answer your questions. It is typically a much better approach to ask a detailed and precise question in a nice way than stating "wtf $PROBLEM" |
| 21:55.13 | IonCannon218 | yet no one responded when i asked normally about i915 not functioning properly |
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| 21:56.01 | martinus | Perhaps there was nobody who thought they could answer. |
| 21:56.01 | LoveAndHappiness | hey |
| 21:56.04 | LoveAndHappiness | guys guys |
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| 21:56.20 | LoveAndHappiness | how do I download this video here: http://mindvalleyacademy.com/online/consciousness-engineering/access/anytime |
| 21:56.33 | LoveAndHappiness | My chrome extensions doesn't seem able to catch it |
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| 22:00.36 | jmcnaught | LoveAndHappiness: not sure if you're trying to be cute but many might find it annoying. If you really need that video, you can view the source and there's actually a URL for the mp4 file that you could then use wget to download. I'm not sure the owners of the video want it to be saved though, considering it says limited time only |
| 22:01.37 | martinus | LoveAndHappiness: Looks like a Deepak-Chopra level scam site... |
| 22:01.46 | LoveAndHappiness | seems so... |
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| 22:02.10 | marcham93 | !paste |
| 22:02.10 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:02.27 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell marcham93 -about selftell |
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| 22:03.11 | marcham93 | thanks jmcnaught :) |
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| 22:03.54 | marcham93 | I'm having an issue that "GLIBC_2.14" is missing, but I hate the latest version up to date. (trying to run Spotify): http://paste.debian.net/107216/ |
| 22:04.15 | marcham93 | have* |
| 22:04.45 | martinus | Bloody hell, that tip about pasting is rather good! |
| 22:05.07 | martinus | Cheers for pointing it out. |
| 22:05.21 | marcham93 | Ah, I did some good. Ha. |
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| 22:06.07 | jmcnaught | marcham93: Wheezy will always have glibc 2.13. It's unfortunate that some developers don't make their software compatible with conservative stable distros like Debian (or RHEL/Centos 6 for that matter). You could try using an older spotify client, or perhaps setup a schroot with jessie/testing for running spotify |
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| 22:06.36 | marcham93 | jmcnaught, hmm - that is a shame. Alright, thanks! |
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| 22:09.42 | MACscr | any ideas why i am missing a default route and also why it says it cant bring up br0 when its already up? http://pastie.org/pastes/9336188/text?key=ndntckwrnb1lacimlwsmnq |
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| 22:14.18 | frostschutz | networking restart is tough |
| 22:14.49 | MACscr | i dont get why it is. its frustrating that it doesnt work well in general |
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| 22:16.27 | MACscr | ok, this is odd. When i do "ifdown br0" it says its not configured |
| 22:16.49 | MACscr | though its running and accessible and its definitely in my interfaces file |
| 22:17.29 | mallxs | MACscr: I also had that msg, seems i was fighting the NerworkManager |
| 22:17.43 | martinus | I found that sometimes the script would not detect the status of my connection correctly. |
| 22:18.20 | mallxs | MACscr: on a multi homed host ... kill it |
| 22:18.43 | MACscr | its a server, i dont have a network manager installed afaik |
| 22:18.44 | martinus | I've had very little trouble with wicd-curses |
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| 22:21.02 | mallxs | iptables -A INPUT -i ! eth2 -j ACCEPT ... how do i expand this to ! eth2 and ! eth4 ? |
| 22:21.30 | MACscr | you write a second rule? |
| 22:22.26 | mallxs | then on the first rule eth4 = not eth2 and will ACCEPT |
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| 22:24.36 | MACscr | oh yeah, duh. lol |
| 22:24.55 | MACscr | though i dont typically see rules being done that way |
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| 22:26.42 | MACscr | so yeah, i dont have a network manager installed |
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| 22:28.20 | mallxs | MACscr: can you show your interfaces file ? |
| 22:29.03 | MACscr | mallxs: http://pastie.org/pastes/9336234/text?key=5kdfhiqvw9ar6u9awndkw |
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| 22:30.43 | Saeko | Is there a file that i can pipe a binary in to run it? |
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| 22:32.18 | MACscr | Saeko: huh? |
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| 22:32.56 | Saeko | MACscr: i want to do gcc test.c -o /run/directly/from/help |
| 22:33.15 | Saeko | so that i dont have to create another output file |
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| 22:34.39 | MACscr | im not 100% sure im following, but why not just "gcc test.c > /my/log/path |
| 22:34.44 | MACscr | " |
| 22:34.46 | MACscr | lol |
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| 22:35.26 | MACscr | mallxs: i got my networking resolved |
| 22:35.28 | Saeko | Ok, i dont want to create an output file, i want to run tge output directly |
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| 22:35.49 | MACscr | so you want the output to go to console, right? |
| 22:36.19 | MACscr | if so, then you need to write your app that way |
| 22:36.34 | Saeko | no, i want to output of running the program to go to stdout without creating a tmp file |
| 22:36.48 | Saeko | the output* |
| 22:37.57 | jmcnaught | Saeko: the other side of your problem is that I don't think gcc will output the binary to stdout. Maybe you could write a script that compiles, runs the test and then deletes the object afterwards? |
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| 22:39.10 | Saeko | jmcnaught: i have, im trying to compress it down to one line |
| 22:39.58 | Saeko | and gcc does output the binary to stdout gcc fike.c -o /dev/stdout |
| 22:40.20 | Saeko | but that just prints binary to your console, doesnt actually run it |
| 22:40.20 | mallxs | Saeko: can't you make it a rule in your makefile ? |
| 22:40.43 | Saeko | im not using a makefile, its one c source |
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| 22:42.45 | mallxs | MACscr: dump answer but did you try it with a reboot ? and else add the default route with a post-up |
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| 22:43.17 | jmcnaught | Saeko: indeed, normally a makefile would be used for this |
| 22:43.53 | MACscr | mallxs: my issue seemed to be that i had the wrong gateway listed. lol |
| 22:44.12 | MACscr | wrong subnet |
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| 22:44.26 | mallxs | MACscr: but does it now show in the netstat -rn ? |
| 22:44.53 | MACscr | mallxs: everything is working now |
| 22:45.06 | mallxs | lol solved |
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| 22:51.38 | monokrome | Hey. Does anyone know how I can go about getting nVidia drivers 311.x on Debian Wheezy? |
| 22:52.31 | monokrome | I guess just use the drivers from the website? |
| 22:54.20 | jmcnaught | monokrome: using the drivers from the nvidia website is not a good idea. |
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| 22:54.56 | monokrome | jmcnaught: I agree, but is there a better option to get a more recent version of the driver? |
| 22:55.23 | ompaul | monokrome: do this >> /msg dpkg nvidia << that might be fun to read the links there - they are the ideas of what you can do with that |
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| 22:56.22 | monokrome | Yeah. I've already done all of the things that dpkg mentioned. The problem is that Debian has an ancient nVidia driver that it "supports". |
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| 22:56.41 | jmcnaught | monokrome: wheezy-backports seems to have a newer nvidia driver available |
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| 22:57.07 | monokrome | I don't know what that is, could you help me understand how to use that? |
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| 22:57.23 | monokrome | Oh, dpkg knows |
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| 22:57.54 | monokrome | Do you know what version it has? |
| 22:58.00 | monokrome | I need 311 or higher |
| 22:58.18 | jmcnaught | monokrome: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/nvidia-driver |
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| 22:59.08 | monokrome | thank you, jmcnaught |
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| 23:00.34 | babilen | monokrome: Please see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for further information (configuration in particular) -- You simply want "aptitude -r-t wheezy-backports install nvidia-dkms" |
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| 23:00.45 | Aias | somtimes when i log in i see a message in the terminal. it begins with the result of uname, followed by: "The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux .. NO WARRANTY .. applicable law." where can i edit this message? |
| 23:00.48 | babilen | "-r -t" naturally |
| 23:01.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell Aias -about motd |
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| 23:03.55 | monokrome | babilen: I'll check that URL, but it says that package doesn't exist |
| 23:04.19 | Aias | /etc/motd, thanks :) |
| 23:04.49 | monokrome | ah, nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 23:05.36 | monokrome | crosses fingers |
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| 23:09.00 | monokrome | It worked :D |
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| 23:10.26 | babilen | monokrome: yeah, sorry for that |
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| 23:13.20 | Aias | is it unwise to add nologin to /etc/shells? |
| 23:13.26 | monokrome | No worries! Thanks for the help :) |
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| 23:32.17 | Guest17864 | ciao |
| 23:32.20 | Guest17864 | !list |
| 23:32.20 | dpkg | guest17864: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 23:37.46 | MACscr | if i do "apt-get -q remove -f -y --force-yes --purge ceph ceph-mds ceph-common ceph-fs-common", why would it complain about some directories not being empty? I said purge, so it should delete them |
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| 23:41.27 | nkuttler | MACscr: there are files in those dirs that aren't included in the deb |
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| 23:57.18 | mallxs | how do i tell in the interfaces on a eth with dhcp to not fiddle with my resolv.conf ? |
| 23:58.01 | MACscr | malcolmx: remove resolveconf |
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