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| 00:10.48 | silicone | Hello. I have Wheezy on an ibook g3 and have been having some issues with suspend. The machine will go into suspend, but when I press the power button to exit suspend, the screen remains an illuminated black. At that point the only thing to do seems to be a hard power off. Any suggestions? |
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| 00:17.38 | LaunchDirector | how do i login as su |
| 00:17.44 | LaunchDirector | on raspbian |
| 00:17.48 | abrotman | ask #raspbian |
| 00:17.57 | justanotheruser | LaunchDirector: pi raspberry |
| 00:18.00 | LaunchDirector | is it any different from debian? |
| 00:18.05 | LaunchDirector | justanotheruser: thanks |
| 00:18.10 | abrotman | LaunchDirector: we don't know, it's ont supported here, ask them |
| 00:18.11 | justanotheruser | LaunchDirector: sudo should always work |
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| 00:18.30 | abrotman | justanotheruser: feel free to support him in #raspbian, thank you |
| 00:18.34 | justanotheruser | abrotman: sorry |
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| 00:19.58 | silicone | I was reading and it looks like suspend is not supported for ibooks.... How could I remap the power button to bring up the menu rather than suspend? |
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| 00:47.20 | bobsinclair | Anybody know of a command that can transform an ntfs parition into and ext4 parition^ |
| 00:47.23 | bobsinclair | ? |
| 00:47.36 | abrotman | without losing data? |
| 00:47.46 | bobsinclair | No, wiping all of it off. |
| 00:48.04 | abrotman | mkfs.ext4 |
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| 00:49.06 | bobsinclair | Cool! Thanks! Otherwise, simply out of curiosity. Is there a command to transform and ntfs parition into and ext4 parition without losing data^ |
| 00:49.13 | abrotman | no |
| 00:49.29 | bobsinclair | That<s what I thought. Thanks for your reply abrotman. |
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| 00:53.13 | exarkun | I want to go to sleep but my Debian Wheezy laptop suddenly refuses to suspend. |
| 00:53.46 | IonCannon218 | why not shutdown for tonight |
| 00:54.18 | exarkun | Because that won't fix the underlying problem. |
| 00:54.49 | IonCannon218 | i'd fix it tomorrow |
| 00:55.18 | exarkun | Thanks for that input. Anyone else? |
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| 00:56.11 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: what does dmesg; say? |
| 00:56.38 | exarkun | dondelelcaro: delay: estimated 134, actual 45 |
| 00:57.18 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: uh... dmesg will have a lot more information than that. |
| 00:57.56 | exarkun | I'll do `dmesg -c` and then try to suspend and paste everything that appears in `dmesg` after the suspend attempt fails |
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| 00:58.26 | exarkun | [51795.818010] delay: estimated 133, actual 44 |
| 00:58.29 | exarkun | That's it. |
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| 00:58.53 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: how are you suspending your machine? |
| 00:59.12 | cesurasean | anyone have any idea why hardware failure would cause debian to stop during install? ive tested RAM and HD, and they both seem fine. |
| 00:59.27 | exarkun | laptop power button -> turn off computer -> suspend to ram |
| 00:59.27 | abrotman | cesurasean: there are other hardware parts |
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| 00:59.41 | exarkun | I ran `sudo pm-suspend` a bunch of times for good measure too (no output, no results) |
| 00:59.46 | cesurasean | warning: failure while unpack required packages. |
| 00:59.50 | cesurasean | i get this warning. |
| 00:59.57 | cesurasean | what causes this type error? |
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| 01:00.31 | dondelelcaro | cesurasean: that sounds like a corrupted CD or similar. How did you burn the CD? |
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| 01:00.46 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: and sudo s2ram; also fails? |
| 01:00.57 | exarkun | The only thing that happens when I click the "Suspend to ram" button is my X session locks and I have to log back in. |
| 01:01.10 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: is there an existing pm-suspend process or similar running in the background? |
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| 01:01.20 | exarkun | dondelelcaro: I'm not familiar with s2ram and don't seem to have it installed. |
| 01:01.29 | cesurasean | unable to handle kernel paging request is in syslog. |
| 01:01.31 | exarkun | dondelelcaro: ... yes. From 4 hours ago. |
| 01:01.43 | cesurasean | i am using an USB thumb drive. |
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| 01:02.16 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: ah; is it in the D state? |
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| 01:02.31 | cesurasean | there seems to be a kernel panic of some sorts going on during install. |
| 01:02.41 | cesurasean | how is this fixed? could it be hardware related? |
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| 01:02.51 | exarkun | dondelelcaro: Hm. No. S. |
| 01:02.58 | dondelelcaro | cesurasean: it's possible. What's the hardware? |
| 01:03.06 | cesurasean | hp media center pc m8000 |
| 01:03.11 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: ok. Try attaching strace to it, or alternatively, try killing it. |
| 01:03.29 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: it's possible that it took the lock out and failed, and the rest of the pm-suspend processes are just failing to get the lock |
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| 01:04.36 | exarkun | I killed it. It died without complaint. Still can't suspend though. |
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| 01:05.29 | exarkun | /var/log/pm-suspend.log has no updates since 17:51 - which is when that pm-suspend process was started. |
| 01:05.36 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: hrm. do you now have a new pm-suspend process? |
| 01:05.49 | cesurasean | anyone have any idea why a debian setup would freeze? |
| 01:05.53 | cesurasean | or crash in such ways? |
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| 01:06.32 | PurpleDog | jmcnaught, thanks for your help yesterday, I was finally able to set up smtp with postfix so now I can send outgoing mail |
| 01:06.47 | exarkun | dondelelcaro: nope |
| 01:06.54 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: and nothing new in the logs? |
| 01:07.24 | dondelelcaro | cesurasean: the best thing would be to give us the full logs; then we can see what's going on |
| 01:07.34 | exarkun | dondelelcaro: correct |
| 01:07.36 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: there might also be a lock to rm in /var/run/pm-utils/locks |
| 01:08.05 | exarkun | dondelelcaro: Ah, indeed. |
| 01:09.08 | exarkun | Removing it doesn't help. It comes back on the next failed suspend attempt. |
| 01:09.22 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: right, but now you probably have a new set of logs |
| 01:09.30 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: and maybe more output in dmesg |
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| 01:09.34 | dondelelcaro | (if you're lucky) |
| 01:09.51 | dondelelcaro | is betting that something won't let the computer suspend |
| 01:10.05 | dondelelcaro | I've had the video camera do that before |
| 01:11.00 | exarkun | Some things about wifi in dmesg output now. de-associated and then re-associated. pm-suspend.log didn't get anything new. |
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| 01:11.31 | exarkun | From the logs from the *successful* suspend 4 hours ago, though, pm-suspend.log says |
| 01:11.34 | exarkun | Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager suspend suspend: |
| 01:11.36 | exarkun | Having NetworkManager put all interaces to sleep...Failed. |
| 01:11.53 | cesurasean | how do i get logs if the install is freezing up? |
| 01:12.01 | cesurasean | at random percents of install? |
| 01:12.20 | exarkun | Possibly the novel thing I did between then and now that I've never done before is put my wifi card into monitor mode. :/ |
| 01:12.21 | Zzeiss | When I run "cheese" - there's no preferences menu (for that matter, no menu bar at the top of the window at all) Any suggestions on how to get it back? |
| 01:12.52 | exarkun | It shouldn't be in monitor mode anymore (I am using it for this network connection) but maybe that broke NetworkManager anyway. |
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| 01:15.47 | exarkun | deleting the lock file and running pm-suspend produces more interesting results, new lines in pm-suspend.log at least |
| 01:15.52 | exarkun | the only failure is NetworkManager related |
| 01:16.11 | exarkun | and pm-suspend is now hung again |
| 01:16.32 | exarkun | still only S, not interruptable with SIGINT but dies from SIGKILL |
| 01:17.13 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: hrm. yeah, I'd bet that's it... |
| 01:17.36 | exarkun | ah, I ran pm-suspend under strace |
| 01:17.39 | exarkun | it is hung on running sync |
| 01:17.51 | dondelelcaro | hrm |
| 01:17.53 | exarkun | so maybe this is zfs's fault :/ |
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| 01:18.16 | exarkun | (though I have suspended a number of times with zfs - today, even - but I guess that doesn't mean a lot) |
| 01:18.33 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: or you have a mounted filsystem which isn't actually there any more |
| 01:18.33 | jmcnaught | PurpleDog: hey, I'm glad you figured it out. If you're interested in running your own mail server and like Postfix, I recommend http://www.postfix-book.com/ . While it's a little old, it does a good job of introducing theory then putting it into practice. |
| 01:18.51 | exarkun | http://codepad.org/7D0yyksD seems pretty bad |
| 01:19.37 | exarkun | Guess I'll have to shut down. And maybe stop using zfs. :/ |
| 01:19.42 | exarkun | dondelelcaro: Thanks a bunch. |
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| 01:20.23 | cesurasean | is it possible to have a sata plugged into the wrong sata port? |
| 01:20.34 | cesurasean | if i had plugged into the 4th port, would that cause problems with OS install? |
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| 01:22.38 | jlim | hey guys |
| 01:25.03 | ctmjr | cesurasean: no, is this the only disk in the system? |
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| 01:26.21 | dondelelcaro | exarkun: oh; yeah, that'd do it. |
| 01:26.40 | zh1 | what can i use on debian wheezy to measure bandwith used |
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| 01:29.34 | fryguy | zh1: check out vnstat |
| 01:30.00 | phogg | zhl: I like iftop for a "what's happening right now" view |
| 01:30.10 | designs | reading the nvidiagrahpics driver weki in order to properley install non-free driver now. I like to understand what Im doing before I hit "ENTER", so can anyone explain this command to me: aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 01:30.59 | abrotman | weki? |
| 01:31.07 | abrotman | designs: yes |
| 01:31.14 | abrotman | designs: which part doesn't make sense? |
| 01:31.15 | phogg | designs: you are installing the linux kernel headers package corresponding to the currently running kernel and the nvidia-kernel-dkms package |
| 01:31.56 | phogg | designs: I recommend you run uname -r by itself and then uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,' |
| 01:32.17 | phogg | and then perhaps you will be enlightened |
| 01:33.07 | designs | will do phogg, thank you for that. |
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| 01:35.47 | designs | in uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,' what does this part mean: |sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,' |
| 01:35.50 | designs | ? |
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| 01:37.59 | designs | from what i ran before it seems it has to do with the fact that I have a 64 bit pc, since it outputed amd64. |
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| 01:38.35 | abrotman | no, that's not what it has to do with .. |
| 01:38.51 | abrotman | sed is edting the data from the first part of the command and doing some character substitution .. |
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| 01:39.48 | SmileMZ | hi debian people! |
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| 01:40.39 | SmileMZ | can somebody help me with apt-get. It doesn't install a broken package. And I don't know howto help myself. |
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| 01:41.09 | abrotman | SmileMZ: pastebin the error and your sources.list |
| 01:41.14 | SmileMZ | https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg00003.html |
| 01:42.13 | abrotman | and your sources.list? |
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| 01:42.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell SmileMZ about ovewrite |
| 01:42.31 | abrotman | dpkg: tell SmileMZ about bts |
| 01:43.04 | SmileMZ | and my sources list: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5297e4Gz |
| 01:43.07 | deepblue | http://dpaste.com/0VN5VPT ,how to fix this? |
| 01:43.50 | abrotman | deepblue: what in the world makes you think you need to run gedit as root? |
| 01:44.05 | abrotman | SmileMZ: right, see what the bot tol dyou |
| 01:44.08 | abrotman | told you |
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| 01:44.16 | abrotman | dpkg: tell SmileMZ about overwrite |
| 01:44.27 | deepblue | abrotman: to edit /etc/apt/sourcer.list |
| 01:44.40 | abrotman | deepblue: what's wrong with nano? or vim? or emacs? |
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| 01:50.12 | SmileMZ | i don't have reportbug installed, and when I call apt-get or aptitude it hangs because of the previous error. |
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| 01:52.39 | dondelelcaro | SmileMZ: libsope-xml4.9 isn't in Debian, AFAICT. |
| 01:53.03 | dondelelcaro | SmileMZ: so remove that package, and then try agian. |
| 01:53.46 | designs | please let me know if I am understanding these commands correctly: "# mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" will create a directory for confi files. "echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf" creates a new file called "20-nvidia.conf" and updates it with the proper configeration? |
| 01:56.19 | jmcnaught | designs: yes, that's what they do |
| 01:57.17 | designs | okay thanks |
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| 02:08.18 | designs | just finished install non-free nvidia drivers. What would be the command to check that I running the new driver ? |
| 02:08.26 | abrotman | did you reboot? |
| 02:08.32 | designs | installing** |
| 02:09.00 | designs | yes |
| 02:09.03 | designs | I did |
| 02:09.55 | abrotman | xdpyinfo might tell you, if not, look at the logs |
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| 02:11.12 | designs | what do you mean look at the logs? |
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| 02:12.22 | designs | that other command doesnt seem to tell me anything about my driver |
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| 02:14.18 | abrotman | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 02:17.33 | designs | yea im looking at the file see alot of stuff in there lol. |
| 02:19.14 | wat531[Luna] | lel |
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| 02:34.12 | xar- | greetings, im performing a debootstrap of debian squeeze, and the system is failing to boot; wondering if there are any obvious gotchas; I have a first (gpt) partition, with the bios_grub flag, the second partition which is for /boot/ |
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| 02:34.59 | xar- | per the documentation, I did an aptitude install grub-pc; grub-install /dev/sda; update-grub; seemed to work just fine. any recommendations? |
| 02:36.12 | xar- | the only warning that I saw was "The following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub or the `kopt' parameter in GRUB Legacy's menu.lst." via an ncurses style prompt; I simply left the field blank. |
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| 02:39.46 | ninoho | Help needed. In KDE Main Menu->Applications, there's no 'Debian'. Cannot acess Debian apps via KDE. |
| 02:40.37 | jmcnaught | xar-: not sure if it would make a difference, but have you considering using wheezy instead of squeeze? Squeeze support is now finished, and only the limited LTS is available. |
| 02:41.16 | jmcnaught | ninoho: which debian apps in particular are you not able to access? |
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| 02:41.34 | xar- | kernel 3.2 ships a buggy kernel driver for an intel nic; it's causing the server to panic :S |
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| 02:41.50 | xar- | so i figured i'd try squeeze which ships 2.6 |
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| 02:42.23 | ninoho | no one in particular at the moment. its good to have them around in kde.used to be around. |
| 02:43.26 | jmcnaught | ninoho: they're probably just categorized differently from what you remember |
| 02:43.53 | ninoho | Look through all the apps. not there. |
| 02:44.04 | xar- | perhaps grub-pc is bad? I should try grub2? unfortunately the server is remote, i don't get feedback on the nature of the error |
| 02:44.16 | xar- | i don't have out-of-band visual access |
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| 02:45.04 | jmcnaught | ninoho: if there's an application you're sure is missing, does it show when you type it into the search part of the KDE menu? |
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| 02:46.39 | ninoho | no |
| 02:47.37 | jmcnaught | xar-: grub-pc is grub2 i think. grub on squeeze is grub 1 |
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| 02:48.26 | ninoho | Forget about it. More important thing now. The 'Leave' and sub-menus under it do not appear in the kde menu editor. how to edit them? |
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| 02:49.39 | jmcnaught | ninoho: I'm not sure if you can, but I'm also not a regular KDE user. There might be a #kde channel somewhere that would have more qualified responders though |
| 02:49.53 | ninoho | ok, thks, |
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| 04:20.06 | cafuego | i5um41ru: Is your harddisk full? Do you have disk errors in `dmesg' output? |
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| 04:27.05 | i5um41ru | cafuego: there are no error in 'dmesg' .. output |
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| 04:28.48 | christinepea777 | any idea how to adjust the monitor contrast from the CLI or with an app? xrandr and xbacklight are inadequate. |
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| 04:31.53 | jmcnaught | Tau: you don't need to reboot for group changes to take effect, just log out and log back in. That command you used though added user "tau" to group "tau" (which it should already belong to). A simpler way is "adduser tau sudo" |
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| 04:34.22 | GusBricker | hello, im trying to cross compile using scratchbox2 and emdebian toolchain |
| 04:35.00 | Tau | okay |
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| 04:35.12 | GusBricker | issue i'm facing is, when i run sb2-init -d armhf /usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc-4.7 |
| 04:35.42 | GusBricker | it fails, the log is here: http://pastebin.com/BtVZTZXe |
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| 04:36.40 | GusBricker | im on an ubuntu 14 host |
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| 04:51.23 | baltazar | hi |
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| 04:54.31 | i5um41ru | exit |
| 04:54.41 | Dewi | haha |
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| 05:02.45 | nurupo | well, he succeeded at exiting |
| 05:02.48 | nurupo | :) |
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| 05:13.43 | shelpe | i need serious help. I cannot do anything on my system. When i run dpkg with no arguments, it segfaults. |
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| 05:14.43 | shelpe | the bootloader on my arm board has no other alternate way of booting other than the |
| 05:14.59 | shelpe | SD card. I'm not sure what to back up so i can reinstall correctly |
| 05:15.50 | shelpe | fsck says everything is ok. |
| 05:16.01 | jmcnaught | shelpe: if everything is on the SD card, can you back stuff up on another device? Do you remember the last stuff you did that may have caused this? |
| 05:16.23 | shelpe | yes i do. i remember the package. tftp-something |
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| 05:16.31 | shelpe | it immediately broke after that |
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| 05:17.11 | shelpe | jmcnaught: is there a manual way to install packages without dpkg? i could edit my filesystem manually6 |
| 05:18.19 | jmcnaught | shelpe: not that i'm aware of. is there any useful information in the logs? |
| 05:18.31 | shelpe | what logs would i check |
| 05:20.11 | jmcnaught | /var/log/syslog is usually the best place to start if you're not sure. You might also check messages and dmesg |
| 05:20.34 | shelpe | The offending package is tftpd-hpa. dpkg returned an error code (1) after that. The last time i touched apt/dpkg was 12 days before that. |
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| 05:20.55 | shelpe | according to /var/log/apt. i'll keep looking at those others you mentioned |
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| 05:21.18 | jmcnaught | shelpe: there's also a #debian-arm channel on irc.debian.org that might have better advice for an ARM system |
| 05:22.04 | shelpe | i'll check that, thank you |
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| 05:23.07 | jmcnaught | shelpe: in addition to /var/log/apt there's also /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 05:43.39 | meek_geek | hi |
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| 06:03.41 | meek_geek | does debian install well using a SD card? |
| 06:04.26 | jmcnaught | meek_geek: if you can boot the installer from an SD card then it's probably no different from any other way of booting hte installer |
| 06:04.54 | meek_geek | jmcnaught, one I did install CB using SD card and it could never detect the HDD |
| 06:06.26 | jmcnaught | meek_geek: while CB is based on Debian it's not Debian, and the folks in this channel don't really keep track of all the differences between Debian and derivatives. It is possible you made a mistake during the installation however |
| 06:06.55 | meek_geek | jmcnaught, I put in the CD and it worked like a charm |
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| 06:07.23 | meek_geek | so was wondering if debian would install from SD card or not |
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| 06:08.39 | jmcnaught | meek_geek: that doesn't mean that you didn't make a mistake during the attempt with the SD card. As for Debian, I don't see why it wouldn't work. If you can boot into the debian-installer, you should be able to install to a hard drive the same way as if you booted from a CD |
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| 06:10.47 | meek_geek | jmcnaught, ok any tips for xfce install ? |
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| 06:13.12 | jmcnaught | meek_geek: using the netinst iso, at boot prompt add "desktop=xfce" like it says here: https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce#Install_a_fresh_system_with_Xfce . Also reading the Installation Manual is highly recommended: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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| 06:18.39 | meek_geek | ok |
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| 06:37.56 | aktau | jelly: if you're there, a stroke of luck solved the problem I was having yesterday :). |
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| 07:42.28 | jelly-home | dpkg: ping |
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| 07:47.38 | aktau | jelly-home: want to know my stroke of luck? (apparently, real luck after reading what I did without thinking) |
| 07:48.08 | jelly-home | aktau: sure, why not |
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| 07:48.38 | txomon|fon | how may I report a bug for linux? |
| 07:48.50 | tilt | txomon|fon: the kernel? |
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| 07:49.51 | txomon|fon | tilt, yeah, suspend hasn't work in any of the kernel versions I have installed in the computer |
| 07:50.00 | txomon|fon | and neither has in my other laptop |
| 07:50.05 | aktau | jelly-home: after failing with kpartx and finding nothing int he manpage, I looked at the manpage for regular "partx" |
| 07:50.22 | aktau | jelly-home: in there, another command was referenced: "partprobe" |
| 07:50.34 | txomon|fon | it really is not suspension, it's hibernate |
| 07:50.45 | aktau | jelly-home: it sounded good, so I read the manpage, and it said it would do what I wanted. I didn't believe it would work but tried sudo partprobe anyway. |
| 07:50.47 | txomon|fon | pm-hibernate |
| 07:50.53 | aktau | jelly-home: lo and behold, /dev/sda3 was loaded on the spot |
| 07:51.51 | txomon|fon | and it's about restoring the state, not saving it |
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| 07:52.41 | tilt | txomon|fon: did you try debian packaged kernels only? |
| 07:53.03 | txomon|fon | when I boot, and the computer has hibernated, it gets stuck in a blinking underscore |
| 07:53.34 | txomon|fon | tilt, yes, several ones, from wheezy, wheezy-updates and wheezy-backports |
| 07:53.50 | jelly-home | aktau: nice |
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| 07:54.40 | tilt | if you only tried packaged kernels https://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelReportingBugs |
| 07:55.19 | tilt | actually i find the usefulness of those pages a bit ... relative :) |
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| 07:56.07 | tilt | txomon|fon: i'd probably file a bug report against the most recent kernel package where the problem is reproducible and include at least the information stated in DebianKernelReportingBugs |
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| 07:57.14 | txomon|fon | tilt, but the system gets blocked |
| 07:57.25 | txomon|fon | I need to hard reset (using sysrq) |
| 07:57.47 | tilt | txomon|fon: do you want to do serious kernel debugging yourself? |
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| 07:58.11 | tilt | txomon|fon: you can always state the kernel version / package version you are using, the hardware you are using and describe the problem |
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| 07:58.39 | tilt | txomon|fon: there's ways to get more information in a crash sitation, but they require a specialized setup |
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| 07:59.06 | txomon|fon | tilt, I haven't got time to the kernel debugging myself. I had a kexec env prepared, but I don't have it now |
| 07:59.32 | txomon|fon | what I don't understand is, are all those bugs to src:linux being resolved? |
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| 08:00.29 | txomon|fon | I have seen that the bug tracker has nearly 80000 bugs |
| 08:00.58 | txomon|fon | isn't a bug squad in debian or so? |
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| 08:01.44 | tilt | txomon|fon: linux kernel is a monster project |
| 08:02.10 | tilt | txomon|fon: and many people file reports about bugs that already were reported |
| 08:02.36 | tilt | txomon|fon: but you are right, the sheer mass of issues is intimidating |
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| 08:03.09 | tilt | txomon|fon: i wouldn't overthink it. collect the information you have and file it against the package where it occurs |
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| 08:04.33 | txomon|fon | ok |
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| 08:23.38 | mrtnt | Where should one keep firewall(iptables) rules in Debian? In /etc/init.d/ directory and make symlinks to /etc/rdX.d/ directory? |
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| 08:33.53 | txomon|fon | tilt, maybe you know. Virtualbox backports why are they that horrible to install? |
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| 08:38.24 | tilt | txomon|fon: i am a very bad addressee for frustration relief ;) |
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| 08:40.19 | adkins | hey y`all, sorry this is a lil off topic: if i want to make a excel bill-table of/for persons and want a column for addressing male/female what is the best word: salutation,address,title,appellation, compellation, salutataory address? |
| 08:40.56 | tilt | gender |
| 08:40.57 | tilt | :D |
| 08:41.02 | tilt | runs ^^ |
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| 08:41.38 | milissa | http://adf.ly/pyduc |
| 08:42.12 | adkins | tilt: are you serious or kidding? ;) really need to know without joking |
| 08:42.34 | adkins | i`m german ** |
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| 08:46.06 | tilt | adkins: ah ok |
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| 08:46.22 | tilt | adkins: salutation is fine |
| 08:46.25 | Seb | adkins: "gender" ? |
| 08:47.25 | adkins | tilt: thx |
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| 08:48.42 | adkins | tilt: have a nice day! |
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| 08:54.00 | tilt | actually, salutation can be derived from gender, maritalStatus on a per-locale basis |
| 08:54.15 | tilt | ;) just for completeness |
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| 09:13.34 | netstnail | hi all, Exim4 SMTP server allows unauthenticated users to send emails, Howto fix this? |
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| 09:14.53 | moty66 | i miss dpkg |
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| 09:35.32 | jelly | dselect: qotd0 |
| 09:35.33 | dselect | <debianstarfish> can i get to the internet from here? |
| 09:35.48 | jelly | moty66: ^^ ask dselect in the meantime |
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| 09:38.18 | euhthe_ | Hi |
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| 09:39.09 | euhthe_ | I have a question about linux OS architechture in general, can I ask ? |
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| 09:47.36 | TheTranzgr3zzor | Vraagje: Ik wil op-afstand-bestuurbare grasmaaier maken, gebaseerd op de AI van mijn robo-stofzuiger |
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| 09:47.44 | TheTranzgr3zzor | Denk je dat Debian herbij kan werken? |
| 09:47.48 | jelly | !nl |
| 09:47.53 | jelly | dselect: nl |
| 09:47.53 | dselect | Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl. |
| 09:48.01 | TheTranzgr3zzor | Ok! |
| 09:48.10 | jelly | TheTranzgr3zzor: this channel is English-speaking |
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| 09:49.42 | oeitei__ | Are dentries used in Debian OS ? |
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| 09:50.01 | oeitei__ | I mean by the file system ? |
| 09:50.02 | jelly | TheTranzgr3zzor: #debian-nl on irc.oftc.net has 20 people, a bit more than the freenode one |
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| 09:51.21 | jelly | oeitei__: directory entries are a concept used by many filesystems, including all the unix ones. That means Linux and by extension Debian knows about those on some level, yes. |
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| 09:52.16 | oeitei__ | why are they used ? since the file system also uses directories ? |
| 09:53.05 | oeitei__ | I can't see the difference between a directory and a dentry |
| 09:53.33 | jelly | oeitei__: a directory contains one or more entries |
| 09:54.00 | jelly | you know, stuff that's in that directory |
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| 09:54.11 | oeitei__ | okay... |
| 09:54.58 | moty66 | anyone can get dpkg online? |
| 09:55.16 | oeitei__ | I think a directory contains a "list" od couples (inode_of_file, adresse_in_disk_of_that_file) |
| 09:55.17 | jelly | moty66: the owner has been notified. Use dselect in the meantime. |
| 09:55.30 | oeitei__ | I'm I wrong ? |
| 09:55.40 | jelly | oeitei__: more precisely, a "dentry" in Linux context means an in-memory represtentation of some of those structures |
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| 09:56.20 | oeitei__ | dentry = a representation of one directory in the RAM ? |
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| 09:56.32 | moty66 | jelly: thank you |
| 09:56.50 | oeitei__ | ... while the directories are in external disk ? |
| 09:57.03 | jelly | oeitei__: not a directory, a file inside it (inode and some more stuff) |
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| 09:57.42 | oeitei__ | why ? |
| 09:58.03 | lintguy | I'm confused, i created a new user with useradd but when i type users i only see the one user |
| 09:58.11 | oeitei__ | I mean since all files are already referenced by the directories |
| 09:58.18 | lintguy | if i type useradd again, it says it already exists |
| 09:58.24 | lintguy | and i cannot su to that user |
| 09:58.40 | jelly | oeitei__: how are they referenced? How is that information kept in memory? |
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| 09:59.21 | oeitei__ | by the open file table ? |
| 09:59.31 | jelly | oeitei__: what open file table? |
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| 10:00.18 | jelly | oeitei__: it's useful to keep a cache of recently accessed file information. This is what dentry cache provides. |
| 10:00.58 | jelly | lintguy: what does the "users" command do? |
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| 10:02.16 | jelly | oeitei__: here's what a 15 second google search finds: http://www.fieldses.org/~bfields/kernel/vfs.txt |
| 10:02.30 | oeitei__ | But we could not use the dentries ? |
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| 10:02.51 | oeitei__ | I alrady read that page. This is why I was confused. |
| 10:03.34 | oeitei__ | Because It talks about vfs. I don't know how much it is generic |
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| 10:04.08 | oeitei__ | Is VFS used in all unix OS ? |
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| 10:05.20 | jelly | details may differ, and it may not be called "VFS" |
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| 10:06.37 | jelly | lintguy: if you want to know whether a user exists, you can run "id username" or "getent passwd username" |
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| 10:06.56 | waka | I've got a persistent problem with my Xorg setup on. I have jessie 3.14-1-amd64. Upon starting x, I get "Loading extension GLX" termination error. I have a Radeon HD 5750 card. Anyone got a working radeon driver I can check what's happening to my system? |
| 10:07.10 | oeitei__ | ext3, ext4, NTFS, etc. : can they be compared with VFS, or is it a different level architechture ? |
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| 10:08.10 | jelly | oeitei__: vfs is kernel internal, generalized representation of filesystem structures |
| 10:08.56 | jelly | oeitei__: it is used to provide a consistent API to other parts of kernel (and userspace) without having to care about how each specific filesystem type does things |
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| 10:10.21 | jmd | Whenever I ssh to my squeeze box, it takes *ages* to give me a prompt, and then is very slow. |
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| 10:11.05 | oeitei__ | How do you sens that message in red to someone ? |
| 10:11.06 | oeitei__ | *send |
| 10:11.06 | lintguy | the auth.log shows that su was successfull, but i don't get into the prompt |
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| 10:13.46 | jelly | lintguy: what does "getent passwd usernamehere" say, which login shell do they use? |
| 10:15.34 | oeitei__ | Can the dentry corresponding to a file by its name not be founded, because the user changed the file name ? |
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| 10:16.52 | netstnail | Hi All, Exim4 SMTP server allows unauthenticated users to send emails, How do I fix it? |
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| 10:19.56 | jmd | netstnail: I don't think that is correct, at least not in the default configuration. |
| 10:20.44 | lintguy | jelly: etherpad:x:104:109::/var/www/etherpad-lite/:/bin/false |
| 10:21.46 | jmd | netstnail: Anyway, #exim is probably the best channel. |
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| 10:22.34 | lintguy | jelly: do i need to have the user in the sudoers file? The user is not supposed to be able to run commands as root or sudo |
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| 10:23.03 | netstnail | jmd: Thanks |
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| 10:23.36 | jmd | So I think the filesystem on which I have /var mounted is failing. Can I unmount /var and still have a running system? |
| 10:24.31 | lintguy | jelly: i have always thought that root should be able to su to any user regardless? |
| 10:25.04 | jmd | lintguy: sudo is not the same as su |
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| 10:25.29 | lintguy | i know |
| 10:25.49 | lintguy | but i'm missing something |
| 10:26.01 | lintguy | i really can't understand why i can't switch to that user |
| 10:26.14 | lintguy | the log says i did, but why no prompt? |
| 10:26.24 | jmd | What are you typing, and what results do you get? |
| 10:26.37 | lintguy | sudo su username |
| 10:26.39 | lintguy | nothing... |
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| 10:27.04 | lintguy | typing whoami and i'm still root |
| 10:27.22 | jmd | So then why "sudo" ? |
| 10:27.26 | xand | lintguy: because the shell is /bin/false |
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| 10:27.58 | xand | lintguy: when you su to a user their shell is run. /bin/false just exits and logs you out immediately. |
| 10:28.01 | turbomettwurst | I have an ext4 volume that was created on oldstable, now i tried to resize it beyond 16TB which doesn't work because of it being 32bit, is there any way to convert it to 64 bit? |
| 10:28.25 | lintguy | xand: so it's the way i created the user that is at fault? |
| 10:28.50 | lintguy | ah.. i see the guide did adduser —system i guess that does that |
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| 10:29.26 | lintguy | And then this command: |
| 10:29.27 | lintguy | su -c "/var/www/etherpad-lite/bin/run.sh" -s /bin/bash etherpad |
| 10:29.37 | lintguy | runs the command as the that scripts default user |
| 10:29.54 | lintguy | default* files set user |
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| 10:30.40 | lintguy | but the etherpad user isn't allowed to use npm-cli.js it seems |
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| 10:31.01 | lintguy | though no one else seem to have this problem |
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| 10:31.17 | lintguy | Installed from wheezy-backports |
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| 10:42.55 | Xz | hi there, I need a debian wheezy with debugging symbols for USB drivers |
| 10:43.10 | Xz | will kernel-devel pkg give me that? Or I have to build my own custom kernel? |
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| 10:45.24 | babilen | Xz: There are -dbg kernel images, might want to try those |
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| 10:52.59 | superlinux-hp | hi all. whenever I re-open my laptop lid, the brightness does not return to its last setting before closing the lid. so what's the fix for that? |
| 10:53.28 | superlinux-hp | I have to always raise the brightness manually |
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| 10:54.57 | jmd | superlinux-hp: Don't close the lid. |
| 10:55.17 | superlinux-hp | jmd, what?! |
| 10:55.25 | superlinux-hp | LOL! |
| 10:56.24 | lintguy | he is probably not joking |
| 10:56.38 | lintguy | getting that to work on linux would probably involve manual patches |
| 10:56.42 | superlinux-hp | lintguy, I meant what I said. |
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| 10:57.09 | superlinux-hp | i think it happens whenever it goes to stand-by mode |
| 10:57.34 | lintguy | probably |
| 10:57.48 | lintguy | but computers differs to much and drivers on linux cannot take all of that into account |
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| 10:58.02 | lintguy | if you want trouble-free linux on a laptop, buy a dell with ubuntu |
| 10:58.05 | superlinux-hp | ok. fine |
| 10:58.19 | jmd | Such issues are likely to be very specific to the kernel and hardware, so #debian is hardly likely to be the best place to ask. |
| 10:58.39 | jmd | Try ##hardware or #linux |
| 10:58.57 | lintguy | yes |
| 10:59.11 | jmd | And don't forget to mention exactly which kernel you are using and what hardware. |
| 10:59.24 | lintguy | there's a command for that |
| 10:59.25 | superlinux-hp | as a user, not as a programmer, I know linux since over 10 years now. I can suck it up sometimes and deal with it. |
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| 10:59.46 | lintguy | this is probably one of those times |
| 10:59.50 | superlinux-hp | but I think an acpi script can help. |
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| 11:00.49 | superlinux-hp | isn't there an acpi event for the lid? |
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| 11:01.40 | SNow | hi ppl, I have a nginx server and serving small imgs (banners) and I'm running out of space and in demand of scaling. What's the best solution to do the scaling between few servers( same rack same switch) but with highest performance for nginx serving imgs. Gluster fs is quite slow? |
| 11:02.10 | lintguy | superlinux-hp: maybe, maybe not. those functions that are not common can be hard to debug |
| 11:02.23 | superlinux-hp | thanks lintguy |
| 11:02.24 | brontosaurusrex | how do i install pepper flash for chromium? (wheezy) |
| 11:02.41 | brontosaurusrex | this https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer/Installing is NOT working. |
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| 11:03.02 | lintguy | superlinux-hp: odd that they save the brightness value in software, something i'd think they added to hardware or bios |
| 11:03.18 | lintguy | superlinux-hp: that's why i'm saying it will probably not be easy fix |
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| 11:03.34 | superlinux-hp | I can do this : cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state |
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| 11:03.47 | superlinux-hp | and it gives me the state of the lid |
| 11:03.56 | superlinux-hp | I think I can run a script now |
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| 11:06.13 | peetaur2 | superlinux-hp: probably should also handle the darkening too to avoid a race condition where you close it and the switch bounces so it goes off,on,off and then your script turns it bright while it's closed |
| 11:06.23 | peetaur2 | superlinux-hp: you'd think something like that would come by default ... |
| 11:07.14 | lintguy | listen to peetaur2, he knows all and everything that is linux |
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| 11:07.31 | lintguy | *bows down to the god of penguin* |
| 11:07.35 | peetaur2 | I disagree. My head isn't big enough for that. |
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| 11:07.43 | lintguy | That's what she said :D |
| 11:07.50 | superlinux-hp | lintguy, peetaur2 nice that you catch me before I do it. |
| 11:07.52 | superlinux-hp | ☺ |
| 11:08.05 | jmd | peetaur2: Ok, then prove it! Tell us everything that you don't know. |
| 11:08.14 | superlinux-hp | LOL! |
| 11:08.18 | peetaur2 | jmd: you are holding up 12 fingers |
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| 11:08.44 | jmd | peetaur2: Correct. (but you knew that) |
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| 11:14.41 | lintguy | Seems node.js in backports is completely out of whack |
| 11:14.49 | lintguy | building from source worked fine |
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| 11:17.38 | superlinux-hp | peetaur2, i think the fluctuating situation you talked about can be solved using a "echo \b" to create a beep sound |
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| 11:18.20 | superlinux-hp | sorry it should be : echo \a |
| 11:19.00 | peetaur2 | echo -e you mean |
| 11:19.07 | peetaur2 | echo -e "\a" |
| 11:19.14 | superlinux-hp | yes! echo -e \a |
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| 11:19.55 | superlinux-hp | if i hear it allot.. you know.. this can hurt the display |
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| 11:23.19 | superlinux-hp | the beep did not work. but i did echo hello>>/tmp/hello. this is a good sign. it worked. |
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| 11:25.02 | peetaur2 | so use mplayer to play a lullaby instead of the beep |
| 11:25.44 | superlinux-hp | peetaur2, correct! |
| 11:25.50 | superlinux-hp | lets see |
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| 11:29.40 | jelly | ,v mpv |
| 11:29.41 | judd | Package: mpv on i386 -- jessie: 0.3.11-1; sid: 0.4.0-1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.4.0-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.4.0-dmo1 |
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| 11:32.54 | lintguy | arghf |
| 11:33.10 | lintguy | well this idea was a wash |
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| 11:33.19 | colo-work | craves mpv in wheezy-backports |
| 11:33.56 | lintguy | seems there is no alternative to google docs collaboration capabilities. |
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| 11:34.03 | lintguy | at least no open source alternative |
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| 11:35.48 | peetaur2 | lintguy: use git :D |
| 11:35.52 | jmd | lintguy: I never really understood what the point of google docs was. |
| 11:36.07 | lintguy | peetaur2: for documents |
| 11:36.20 | peetaur2 | lintguy: I hate docs that don't diff properly in git. So if you avoid them, git works just fine. |
| 11:36.40 | jmd | Exactly, use LaTeX with git. |
| 11:36.49 | jelly | lintguy: open-xchange? |
| 11:36.52 | lintguy | yes, i'll just tell that to the client |
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| 11:37.16 | lintguy | it would take a week to explain how to do a single commit |
| 11:37.30 | peetaur2 | jmd: from the beginning, the companys goal has been data mining... they do docs, dns, searches, translation, etc. for that purpose |
| 11:37.38 | peetaur2 | so that's the point. |
| 11:37.48 | jelly | lintguy: its online excel replacement is rudimentary but the basics work |
| 11:37.50 | lintguy | i thought it was lock-ins |
| 11:38.08 | jmd | lintguy: I suspect you are underestimating your client. |
| 11:38.11 | peetaur2 | lintguy: heh ... git gui then ;P |
| 11:39.02 | lintguy | jelly: i've tried OX and was thinking about moving to it, but there is so much work setting it up |
| 11:39.12 | lintguy | jelly: now it seems i should have |
| 11:39.40 | jelly | it's just a suggestion |
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| 11:39.59 | lintguy | jmd: the client is an asshole, so yes, underestimating is putting it lightly |
| 11:40.09 | jmd | telling someone to do "git commit -a -m xxx" is far easier and quicker than "Install some gui. Clikc on the icon about 2/3 of the way down the screen next to the squiggle that looks like a banana. Then press the right mouse button whilst moving a little bit to the left ..." |
| 11:40.12 | lintguy | jelly: a good one, thanks |
| 11:40.43 | lintguy | jmd: in google drive, it's double click the document, write, invite, leave - it auto-saves and auto-versions |
| 11:41.14 | jmd | My experience is that when people are treated like assholes, they start behaving like them. Treat them like intelligent humans and they suddenly become them. |
| 11:42.05 | lintguy | jmd: right, i've always treated clients like that. didn't make them less assholes |
| 11:42.12 | lintguy | though only one of them are |
| 11:42.16 | lintguy | it happens to be this one |
| 11:42.36 | jmd | Those assholes pay your salary! |
| 11:42.36 | lintguy | still, i can't argue with what google is currently offering - for free |
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| 11:43.21 | lintguy | jmd: to be clear, always treated them like royalty |
| 11:44.42 | lintguy | I setup so the client could mount the server as a drive via webdav, editor documents via libreoffice - what it can't do it handle file-locks and collaboration. |
| 11:44.54 | jmd | lintguy: A lot of royals are indeed assholes. |
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| 11:45.13 | lintguy | though of using etherpad light and export as documents, but that didn't work |
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| 12:43.50 | zetheroo1 | when trying to install sqlite3 I am getting this a dependency issue http://paste.debian.net/107562/ |
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| 12:43.53 | zetheroo1 | What should I do? |
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| 12:44.38 | zetheroo1 | My sources.list is: http://paste.debian.net/107564/ |
| 12:44.50 | peetaur2 | maybe something like: apt-get install libsqlite3-0=3.7.13-1+deb7u1 |
| 12:45.06 | jelly | zetheroo1: show the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy libsqlite3-0 sqlite3", too |
| 12:45.08 | jelly | !bat |
| 12:45.08 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 12:47.29 | zetheroo1 | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/107567/ |
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| 12:48.43 | jelly | zetheroo1: you have the library package from wheezy-backports, but have removed wheezy-backports from your sources.list after that |
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| 12:49.36 | jelly | zetheroo1: either downgrade libsqlite3-0 with consequences unknown, or reenable wheezy-backports and install the command line tool from there |
| 12:49.38 | zetheroo1 | hmm ... so I need to re-add the wheezy-backports repo ? |
| 12:49.47 | zetheroo1 | ok |
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| 12:53.14 | paul_grozav | Hello, I have a haswell CPU and it has the Hardware Lock Elision flags (hle and rtm). Do you know how to verify the hardware lock elision is being used? Thanks |
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| 12:54.26 | jelly | paul_grozav: used for what? |
| 12:55.09 | paul_grozav | jelly: I would like to compile my application and make sure it uses this hardware feature |
| 12:56.11 | jelly | paul_grozav: eg. glibc in debian 7 almost surely does NOT have the feature used for pthreads, since it got written after wheezy got frozen http://lwn.net/Articles/534761/ |
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| 12:56.43 | zetheroo1 | jelly: hmmm ... I must have done something wrong!? It's still not installing due to dependency issues http://paste.debian.net/107571/ |
| 12:57.17 | paul_grozav | OK, thanks |
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| 12:58.19 | level7 | hi all |
| 12:58.23 | jelly | zetheroo1: repeate the apt-cache policy libsqlite3-0 sqlite3 command to see if the packages are now available or not |
| 12:58.51 | jelly | zetheroo1: I don't see which command you run for that last paste http://paste.debian.net/107571/ |
| 12:59.03 | level7 | I have a new laptop and I was thinking of Debian or mint.. but you know the latest laptop they do not like you format the whole disk... so I was thinking to use some "HD image tool".. any tool based on linux so in case I can "recover" the whole content? |
| 12:59.13 | zetheroo1 | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/107572/ |
| 12:59.30 | centrx | level7, Why can't you format the whole disk? |
| 12:59.42 | jelly | ,v libsqlite3-0 |
| 12:59.43 | judd | Package: libsqlite3-0 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.7.3-1; squeeze-backports: 3.7.13-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.7.13-1+deb7u1; jessie: 3.8.5-2; sid: 3.8.5-2 |
| 12:59.46 | level7 | I can, but then I will loose the windows and the HP tools |
| 13:00.00 | level7 | so I was thinking to do the HD image and then in case restore it |
| 13:00.11 | jelly | zetheroo1: apparently, libsqlite3-0 is not in wheezy-backports. Might have been in the past. |
| 13:00.16 | level7 | why not forget windows? Video Card drivers for this laptop |
| 13:00.56 | centrx | level7, You can resize your partitions within the installer. It uses a Linux program called parted |
| 13:01.12 | jelly | zetheroo1: what happens if you try to downgrade? apt-get -s install libsqlite3-0=3.7.13-1+deb7u1 |
| 13:01.30 | level7 | well it sounds like a possibility but the HD is small.. it's 256 SSD |
| 13:01.46 | level7 | so I was thinking to just do the image and see if the drivers will work as expected |
| 13:01.57 | zetheroo1 | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/107573/ |
| 13:02.00 | level7 | or.. I could install Linux on a USB pen drive or something like that |
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| 13:02.07 | centrx | level7, 256MB? |
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| 13:02.52 | jelly | zetheroo1: looks reasonably safe. Still, it's possible some of your databases will not work with older sqlite any more |
| 13:03.11 | level7 | sorry GB :) |
| 13:03.34 | centrx | level7, That's plenty of space to do any re-partition |
| 13:03.35 | zetheroo1 | jelly: so its now downgraded? |
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| 13:04.39 | goit790 | http://newxxxhd.com/all-new-brazzers-movies-in-hd-for-free/ |
| 13:04.49 | jelly | zetheroo1: remove -s from the command, and it will be |
| 13:05.27 | level7 | not for my data |
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| 13:07.07 | trewas | level7: if windows is still installed its backup&restore tool can make disk image and a restore dvd |
| 13:08.53 | level7 | well the story is that all the lastest laptops are shpping with 3 partitions (Windows + tools + spare ) |
| 13:09.01 | level7 | so I just would like to have the whole HD image |
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| 13:16.21 | zetheroo1 | jelly: ok I downgraded ... should I try to install sqlite3 now ? |
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| 13:18.34 | jelly | zetheroo1: yes, it ought to work now |
| 13:18.40 | zetheroo1 | ok |
| 13:18.59 | zetheroo1 | jelly: ah great - its worked :D thanks! |
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| 13:19.55 | jelly | I guess you're going to find out whether 3.7.17 makes changes incompatible with 3.7.13 soon :-| |
| 13:21.23 | zetheroo1 | jelly: I guess ... but from the sound of it most, if not all, databases were MYSQL databases anyhow ... except for the one I am playing with ;) |
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| 13:53.26 | orl_ | Hi! |
| 13:53.41 | orl_ | I'm trying to upgrade from wheezy to jessie, and get a quite big error with initramfs |
| 13:54.15 | esakish | orl_, Jessie isn't out yet... |
| 13:54.39 | orl_ | initramfs-tools postinst script fails cause update-initramfs doesn't exist (actually update-initramfs.orig.initramfs-tools does exist), and then there are dependencies missing, obviously |
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| 13:55.19 | orl_ | esakish: I know that, thanks. But I need to switch to Jessie to have the libc6 version (and some others) I need to install qlcplus |
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| 13:56.04 | orl_ | the bug has been reported but was returned to synaptic (which I don't use) |
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| 14:02.41 | jelly | orl_: ask in #debian-next over on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net) if you get no answers here, that's the channel for testing |
| 14:02.52 | jelly | also, |
| 14:02.54 | orl_ | oh, I didn't know |
| 14:03.02 | jelly | dpkg: tell orl_ -about bat |
| 14:03.12 | sommarnatt | Anyone know how to preseed and get 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 during install? Have an issue where my sata disk drives aren't found which should be fixed in that release. |
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| 14:12.36 | justanotheruser | How do I unlock this? I don't know of anywhere I am using aptitude or apt-get |
| 14:12.36 | justanotheruser | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 14:13.44 | rozie | 1. check if no apt/dpkg process is running |
| 14:13.56 | rozie | 2. rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
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| 14:14.20 | justanotheruser | rozie: how do I do 1 ? |
| 14:14.28 | jelly | !status lock |
| 14:14.28 | dpkg | If you have errors that there the dpkg status database cannot be locked, check to see if another package management tool is already running. This might be aptitude, dpkg, update-manager, unattended-upgrades, synaptic, ... Find out by running (as root): fuser -vi /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 14:14.30 | rozie | you may want lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock before 2 |
| 14:14.47 | rozie | jelly: thx |
| 14:15.16 | justanotheruser | fuser -vi /var/lib/dpkg/lock returns nothing? So its not right that it is locked? |
| 14:15.31 | jelly | rozie: to search if the bot has anything useful about a keyword, you can /msg dpkg listvals /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 14:15.47 | justanotheruser | and I am safe to rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock? |
| 14:15.56 | jelly | justanotheruser: running those commands as root? |
| 14:16.39 | justanotheruser | yes |
| 14:16.48 | justanotheruser | prefixed with sudo anyways |
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| 14:17.06 | themill | removing the lock file isn't really a good plan |
| 14:17.22 | jelly | justanotheruser: I'd verify there was no obvious tool in the process list anywany |
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| 14:17.44 | justanotheruser | jelly: I didn't see anything in fuser -vi /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 14:18.08 | jelly | justanotheruser: that's not a command to list all processes, jsut those keeping that particular file open |
| 14:18.38 | justanotheruser | jelly: but if nothing is outputted, nothing has a lock, so what is there to be worried about? |
| 14:18.51 | xlinkz0 | hey, i'm having trouble with /dev/fuse. I've created the usergroup "fuse", added my user to it but I still can't open it |
| 14:19.10 | jelly | justanotheruser: I don't know whether fuse actually shows fcntl locks |
| 14:19.27 | themill | justanotheruser: are you sure it's still locked? |
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| 14:19.33 | jelly | er, fuser* |
| 14:19.54 | justanotheruser | themill: not any more, but it was a minute ago :P |
| 14:20.21 | themill | so not getting any output with fuser isn't surprising |
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| 14:23.25 | IonCannon218 | anyone know a good wireless adapter brand/chipset? mine seems to be failing |
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| 14:26.16 | sommarnatt | is it possible to get a later netboot that has the updated kernel from 7.5 u1? |
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| 14:26.56 | peetaur2 | IonCannon218: atheros or some such tends to be best supported if I remember correctly. the main page doesn't but the commenters here seem to agree http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-usb-wireless-compatibility-adapter-list.html |
| 14:27.08 | esakish | sommarnatt, Why do you need it? |
| 14:27.12 | esakish | Just install from netinst then update |
| 14:27.18 | IonCannon218 | i've seen atheros recommended in some places |
| 14:27.20 | sommarnatt | esakish: hdds arent found |
| 14:27.22 | esakish | Ah |
| 14:27.30 | sommarnatt | so kinda catch22 ;) |
| 14:27.36 | IonCannon218 | i have to decide which i want: dual band or bluetooth lol |
| 14:27.48 | sommarnatt | seems to be: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746642 |
| 14:27.57 | sommarnatt | which is patched in latest update |
| 14:27.59 | esakish | sommarnatt, Why are you using netinst? |
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| 14:28.28 | sommarnatt | esakish: TFTP installing servers through puppet/theforeman |
| 14:28.29 | fffuuuL | Hi |
| 14:28.41 | sommarnatt | pxebooting |
| 14:28.42 | esakish | Ah |
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| 14:29.01 | esakish | Is your machine very new? |
| 14:29.15 | fffuuuL | How would i install oracle jdk8 the fastest way with my package manager? :) |
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| 14:29.38 | esakish | fffuuuL, sudo apt-get ? |
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| 14:29.51 | esakish | You'll probably need to update-alternatives |
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| 14:30.42 | meek_geek | guys how to beautify xfce install of debian ? |
| 14:30.54 | esakish | meek_geek, define "beautify" |
| 14:30.54 | fffuuuL | Yeah, that's the package manager part, where do i get oracle jdk8 deb tho or how do i install it from tar.gz with my package manager |
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| 14:31.15 | esakish | If apt-get doesn't find it, download the .deb from somewhere |
| 14:31.24 | sommarnatt | esakish: yes just got it 2 days ago. It's a supermicro using an intel c606 sas/sata storage controller |
| 14:31.32 | meek_geek | esakish, I install greybird theme and it looks good but i think some fonts are missing like the ones in Xubuntu |
| 14:31.44 | esakish | meek_geek, You can install fonts via apt-get |
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| 14:32.24 | meek_geek | esakish, the problem is that i don't know which fonts were those .. I switched from xubuntu 14 .. I miss two things so badly 1) fonts 2) Whiskermenu |
| 14:32.35 | esakish | Install them all? |
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| 14:32.47 | lotherk | anyone of you using a thinkpad t420 and its docking station with a dvi monitor connected and has some hints for me like.. how to get my connected monitor working without the need to run a "layout-chooser" or other hacky scripts? |
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| 14:33.11 | johndoe | for some reason my system is as of lately using croatian language, which i do not want. how do i change back to english? |
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| 14:33.34 | esakish | johndoe, Which DE are you using? |
| 14:33.53 | johndoe | Mate |
| 14:34.08 | esakish | ah, check system settings |
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| 14:35.04 | johndoe | maybe dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:35.41 | fffuuuL | Can i show installed files by a package? |
| 14:35.53 | fffuuuL | Similar to pacman -Ql pkgname |
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| 14:36.52 | jelly | fffuuuL: dpkg -L packagename |
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| 14:38.49 | jelly | !installed files |
| 14:38.49 | dpkg | To list files installed by a package, «dpkg -L foopkg». If you want to list files in a package you don't have, ask me about <apt-file> or <pdo>. If you want to search for a package which contains a file, ask me about <apt-file> or <search>. |
| 14:40.36 | fffuuuL | thanks |
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| 14:44.02 | sommarnatt | Screw this =/ I need a wheezy repo with 7.5 security-updates merged.. |
| 14:44.26 | sommarnatt | to use it as preseed.. ill have to install from 7.4 iso tomorrow |
| 14:44.41 | sommarnatt | then upgrade.. only way to go i guess |
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| 14:54.18 | ledoktre | Greetings all. A question about tc, if anyones up to it. So I'm trying to do a port mirror between vm's (mvm), both on the same bridge. Say vnet5 (server) and vnet6 (monitor). I found a link about how you can do this (http://geertj.blogspot.com/2010/12/network-security-monitoring-with-kvm.html) but it complains with an error (RNETLINK answers: invalid argument. We have an error talking to the kernel). One link I found on another page suggested it |
| 14:54.19 | ledoktre | because I need to specify a handle. Ive been googling and googling - does anyone know how to take the code snippet in the first link and add a handle? |
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| 14:55.45 | Lis | ledoktre, you need to install the kernel module told in the docs. |
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| 14:56.10 | Lis | i dont know the name, nmap maybe?!? |
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| 14:56.44 | ledoktre | Lis: You think that might be the issue more than "adding a handle"? |
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| 14:57.46 | frostschutz | error talking to kernel is usually missing module |
| 14:58.13 | ledoktre | frostschutz: That would make sense. How does one find out which module? |
| 14:58.23 | ledoktre | If I knew which module, I can figure out how to install it :) |
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| 14:58.43 | DammitJim | what utility should I use for decompressing a rar file? |
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| 14:58.52 | d3sync | unrar xD |
| 14:59.00 | Lis | kate perrys rawr? |
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| 14:59.46 | Lis | kate perry can code too... she recently tried to use her vib without password. |
| 15:00.07 | Lis | ups wrong channel sry :D |
| 15:00.31 | jelly | Lis: wrong attitude, too |
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| 15:01.13 | Lis | jelly, true :D |
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| 15:02.29 | Lis | but i'd really like help for the lto stuff... getting scsi to work on windows is a pain. |
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| 15:03.11 | johndoe | I have `XKBLAYOUT="hr us"' in my /etc/default/keyboard file. for some reason it doesnt load it... |
| 15:03.24 | johndoe | everything was working great until a recent update |
| 15:04.02 | jelly | johndoe: XKBLAYOUT="hr" \n XKBVARIANT="us" wfm |
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| 15:05.10 | Lis | johndoe, does hr-us work or hr_US ? |
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| 15:07.22 | jelly | Lis: did any of those work for you? |
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| 15:09.04 | johndoe | jelly: it works. tywm :D |
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| 15:09.33 | jelly | Lis: if one runs setxkbmap manually, the correct command is "setxkbmap hr us", and I guess layout and variant parameters for setxkbmap can be mapped directly to corresponding vars in /e/d/keyboard |
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| 15:14.29 | jelly | dpkg: sing sussudio |
| 15:14.29 | dpkg | sings "Su, su, sudio...Su, su, sussudio" |
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| 15:15.48 | zolgan | hello |
| 15:16.03 | zolgan | I got pretty strange problem; I've create new user via "adduser newuser" |
| 15:16.08 | bsdbeard | I've got a strange problem lately, after I type in my login/password it takes about 15 seconds to load the shell, why does it take so long? I dont even start X, just the command line interface |
| 15:16.23 | zolgan | when I'm logged as "newuser" I'm still able to access /root files and /home/different-users ? |
| 15:16.26 | zolgan | what's going on? |
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| 15:17.21 | jelly | bsdbeard: can you see what goes on if you add set -x to your /etc/profile or user's login shell rc or profile? |
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| 15:17.58 | bsdbeard | jelly, So I just add that to ~/.profile? |
| 15:18.15 | jelly | sure |
| 15:18.24 | rgr | Yikes. Git broken after a jessie update. git-remote-https: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhogweed.so.2: undefined symbol: __gmpn_cnd_add_n . |
| 15:18.28 | jelly | (on the top, as early as possible) |
| 15:18.45 | bsdbeard | Ok I will try this and report back after logging back in |
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| 15:19.04 | jelly | wishes he had a nickel for every time someone reported testing was broken |
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| 15:20.05 | rgr | in fairness its first time in over a year... bit of a critical package not to work for obvious reasons. I'll manually rebuild it. |
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| 15:21.10 | bsdbeard | Well... it dumped a huge amount of stuff |
| 15:21.47 | jelly | bsdbeard: did you figure out the place where it stopped and waited 15 seconds? |
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| 15:22.36 | bsdbeard | Ahh.. the wait only happens after I reboot, I'm gonna reboot now and see where the debug output stalls |
| 15:22.40 | meek_geek | hi |
| 15:22.49 | meek_geek | How can I get my touchpad to work ? |
| 15:23.04 | meek_geek | I want touchpad touch as a mouse click |
| 15:23.08 | meek_geek | but it don't work :[ |
| 15:24.18 | Neo|work | hello guys ... i'm trying to setup a local debian repository. so far i managed to build and upload the package. but when i try to install it via apt-get on a virtual machine, i always get a 404 error. see http://pastie.org/9343852 for details. could someone point me into the right direction plz? ;) |
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| 15:27.28 | bsdbeard | jelly, Hey, thanks for the help! I figured out where it stalls and fixed it |
| 15:27.40 | jelly | !next |
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| 15:28.09 | bsdbeard | I had a script that used $RANDOM incorrectly and it repeated trying to find a random number for millions of times until the loop stopped |
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| 15:28.38 | jelly | did it eventually find its number |
| 15:28.40 | _odie | does anyone manage to get youtube html5 in firefox with better quality than 360p? |
| 15:28.53 | bsdbeard | I think so, hence it took about 10-15 seconds to do it :D |
| 15:30.17 | bsdbeard | I'm a bit concerned about the 5200 lines of debug output set -x spews every time I launch zsh though, seems a bit excessive :P |
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| 15:33.39 | jelly | compinit does a lot of crap internally |
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| 15:35.07 | dondelelcaro | jelly: sorry; I wasn't clear. You should be looking for entries in /var/log/daemon.log which immediately follow boot. |
| 15:35.13 | dondelelcaro | jelly: err, ECHAN/ENICK |
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| 15:42.21 | Neo|work | any idea, why apt-get inserts a dot instead of 'squeeze-experimental' in the url for our local repository, when doing apt-get install package? (Failed to fetch http://172.30.30.5/apt-testing/./mypkg.deb 404 Not Found) |
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| 15:50.21 | karlpinc | Hi, Anyone have a clue as to what caused the crash at line 1081 of http://paste.debian.net/107605/ (a dmesg output)? I ran memtest86+_overnight and got no errors so it's not ram. |
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| 15:52.12 | karlpinc | An fsck passed, although this does not really inform swap.... |
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| 15:55.31 | meek_geek | guys which fonts family are popular in debian main ? |
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| 15:57.18 | karlpinc | meek_geek: Dunno. Probably Liberation, which is the RH clone of the MS font. |
| 15:57.18 | karlpinc | I think that's what it's called. |
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| 15:59.20 | meek_geek | karlpinc, ok thanks |
| 15:59.27 | meek_geek | I found a package |
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| 16:21.48 | roe_ | how do I X forward a command I need to sudo to execute? |
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| 16:23.25 | jelly | roe_: use gksudo or gksu or sux |
| 16:23.50 | roe_ | just found sudo -E seems to do the trick |
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| 16:25.24 | meek_geek | guys I want to setup my touchpad touch (single) as a mouse click ; its really inconvenient to click the button every time ; |
| 16:25.34 | meek_geek | is there a package to setup touchpad in debian ? |
| 16:25.49 | dondelelcaro | meek_geek: depends on the touchpad |
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| 16:26.21 | dondelelcaro | meek_geek: often xinput can do that; there's probably a good frontend to it in your desktop |
| 16:26.29 | meek_geek | dondelelcaro, ok |
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| 16:36.24 | solix | hello |
| 16:36.50 | solix | is there any way to access user A access only whitelisted IP addresses? |
| 16:37.04 | solix | *to allow |
| 16:38.05 | solix | I mean of course for every connection (ssh/vpn/browser-http) |
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| 17:02.46 | lakcaj | solix, iptables can filter based on the user that the process is running under, although I have no experience with it. Might ask in #iptables if that channel exists |
| 17:03.05 | solix | lakcaj: thank you |
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| 17:04.03 | lakcaj | solix, found this: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.ca/2010/11/how-to-limit-network-access-by-user.html |
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| 17:05.09 | jaakkos | sunaku: be aware of some caveats, such as the ping utility, that runs as setuid root :) |
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| 17:05.58 | sunaku | huh? |
| 17:06.12 | jaakkos | s/sunaku/solix/, sorry |
| 17:06.34 | sunaku | i was worried there for a minute :) |
| 17:07.42 | solix | jaakkos: yup sure, i'm aware of that |
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| 17:07.54 | jaakkos | anyway, an attacker might eg. scan the network with ping even if it's blocked (it isn't) by those rules |
| 17:08.22 | solix | jaakkos: I wanna block both connections (especially the outgoing one) |
| 17:08.24 | solix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.36 | solix | so user from my machine can access only 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 |
| 17:09.10 | Lis | man routed |
| 17:09.14 | Lis | or iptables |
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| 17:10.58 | jaakkos | solix: you can get far with -m owner as described in lakcaj's link - i'm not aware of any other setuid programs but 'ping' that might be an issue |
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| 17:11.37 | jaakkos | you might want to block outgoing ping from everyone to mitigate it |
| 17:11.46 | jaakkos | ie. even root can't ping |
| 17:11.59 | solix | one important question, if i'll messed up with iptables and internet connection broks down, how can i repair it? |
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| 17:13.00 | jaakkos | you can't, remotely. |
| 17:13.10 | solix | but locally? |
| 17:13.26 | jaakkos | well, remove the bad rules? |
| 17:13.44 | jaakkos | you could use iptables -F to flush the whole filter chain, iptables -t nat -F to flush nat chain etc. |
| 17:13.58 | lakcaj | couldn't you just remove the suid bit and then block ping unless it is root using it, which should only be the valid root user? |
| 17:14.18 | solix | so iptables -F will solve the problem and reset everything, right? |
| 17:14.23 | jaakkos | solix: you could use iptables-apply to apply rules remotely, it has a dead man's switch |
| 17:14.54 | jaakkos | solix: well, it will remove all rules, i cannot comment if that is what you want :) |
| 17:15.00 | sunaku | what's a dead man'ss switch? |
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| 17:15.35 | jaakkos | sunaku: it will revert the changes if the remote client goes silent. |
| 17:15.40 | sunaku | cool |
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| 17:15.46 | solix | btw, could anyone check that rules please? http://pastebin.com/vL29sZAN I wanna block everything expect 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 only for user "test" |
| 17:15.51 | Bombo | hi |
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| 17:16.37 | Bombo | is there a howto for compiling a 32+64 bit kernel for debian on a 32bit wheezy? |
| 17:16.58 | jaakkos | lakcaj: i'm not sure at all if removing suid bit persists after package updates ;) |
| 17:17.08 | benedikt | I have a disk (small ssd) that is encrypted with dm_crypt and uses lvm (encrypted first, then lvm). Can i clone it to another physical disk (a larger one) with dd? |
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| 17:19.06 | Bombo | which kernel-image package does run 32 and 64 bit binaries? |
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| 17:21.30 | steppen_1olf | benedikt: yes |
| 17:21.34 | steppen_1olf | I think s |
| 17:21.35 | steppen_1olf | o |
| 17:22.11 | benedikt | steppen_1olf: i'm backing everything up right now. i think it shoudl be as easy as dd if=/dev/sdd of=/dev/sdnew but i'm really not sure |
| 17:22.18 | benedikt | also, can i join two lvm partitions? |
| 17:22.35 | benedikt | i made separate /home and /, and of course / is filling up |
| 17:22.46 | steppen_1olf | you want to join or to resize ? |
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| 17:23.04 | benedikt | doesnt really matter, i just need to get more space to /. joining just seems like the easy solution |
| 17:23.17 | benedikt | if resizing is easier, ill go with that |
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| 17:23.24 | steppen_1olf | I think it will be |
| 17:23.44 | benedikt | ill jsut google how to resize a lvm partition then |
| 17:23.51 | steppen_1olf | yes, for dd, but I would add bs=8M, something like that to have larger chunks |
| 17:23.54 | steppen_1olf | yes |
| 17:24.06 | benedikt | what is the benefit of having larger chunks? |
| 17:24.07 | steppen_1olf | I've already resized one, for testing -- it worked ;) |
| 17:24.12 | steppen_1olf | being quicker |
| 17:24.27 | benedikt | i'll dd first and try resizing and see if it works. if not, i still have the original disk |
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| 17:24.43 | benedikt | and if i somehow mess up the source disk with dd, i have backups |
| 17:24.50 | benedikt | ive learned to guard from myself the hard way |
| 17:24.53 | jaakkos | solix: the commands are not syntactically correct, and some other weirdness :) i can suggest you a set of commands... |
| 17:24.57 | steppen_1olf | I d the same |
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| 17:29.03 | jaakkos | solix: http://pastebin.com/rcKnKYAn |
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| 17:29.36 | solix | jaakkos: thank you :) |
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| 17:29.50 | solix | jaakkos: and if I'll want to reset it "ipconfig -F" will be sufficient? |
| 17:29.59 | jaakkos | solix: yes |
| 17:30.09 | meek_geek | guys I have a touchpad i want to set the touchpad ( tap ) as a single click |
| 17:30.09 | meek_geek | I am using a laptop |
| 17:30.09 | meek_geek | is it possible ? |
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| 17:31.10 | meek_geek | In Mouse Settings it says ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad |
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| 17:32.48 | jmcnaught | meek_geek: this might help you https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
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| 17:35.25 | christinepea777 | any idea how to adjust the monitor contrast from the CLI or with an app? xrandr and xbacklight are inadequate. |
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| 17:41.47 | StefanYohansson | christinepea777: xgamma is inadeuate too? http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=16484.0 |
| 17:41.55 | StefanYohansson | inadequate* |
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| 17:55.20 | christinepea777 | StefanYohansson: hm, i'll try it |
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| 18:12.34 | meek_geek | hello |
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| 18:13.48 | meek_geek | jmcnaught, I tried that link but Elantech Touchpad drivers have some issues ; the tapping was enabled by default in old drivers but no configuration files in new |
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| 18:22.05 | justanotheruser | My latest dist-upgrade changed a bunch of chromium settings and made flashplayer not work. Is that normal? |
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| 18:22.30 | jelly-home | justanotheruser: which debian release? |
| 18:22.34 | jelly-home | ,v chromium |
| 18:22.36 | judd | Package: chromium on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; wheezy: 34.0.1847.116-1~deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 35.0.1916.153-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 35.0.1916.153-1~deb7u1; jessie: 35.0.1916.153-2; sid: 35.0.1916.153-2; experimental: 36.0.1985.84-1 |
| 18:23.03 | justanotheruser | jelly-home: Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 18:24.08 | jelly-home | justanotheruser: looks like Debian 7. chrome and chromium 35 do not support NPAPI plugins any more; you'll have to use Chrome-specific flash plugin |
| 18:24.11 | jelly-home | ,v pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:24.12 | judd | Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 1.4; sid/contrib: 1.4 |
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| 18:24.33 | jelly-home | justanotheruser: install pepperflashplugin-nonfree from backports |
| 18:24.45 | justanotheruser | jelly-home: ok thanks |
| 18:24.51 | justanotheruser | jelly-home: Should I be using debian 7? |
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| 18:25.36 | jelly-home | justanotheruser: yes, that is the current release. |
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| 18:35.12 | justanotheruser | Is it bad that I have a conflict? |
| 18:35.12 | justanotheruser | W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages) |
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| 18:36.11 | meek_geek | does anyone know how to make your touchpad tap as a single mouse click in debian ? its not enabled by default on Elantech Touchpads :[ |
| 18:36.42 | jelly-home | justanotheruser: it does not pose a technical problem for apt or aptitude, it's W arning you of redundant configuration |
| 18:37.00 | StefanYohansson | meek_geek: gnome, kde, fluxbox, xfce ? |
| 18:37.13 | meek_geek | xfce |
| 18:37.15 | meek_geek | wheezy |
| 18:37.38 | justanotheruser | jelly-home: ok, why would that happen. Is backports main different from main contrib non-free? |
| 18:37.42 | justanotheruser | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free |
| 18:37.46 | justanotheruser | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main |
| 18:38.08 | zinx | justanotheruser: you have it http://ftp.debian.org/debian listed twice for wheezy-backports and main there |
| 18:38.16 | StefanYohansson | meek_geek: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=103644 |
| 18:38.21 | zinx | justanotheruser: those are separate repositories on the server |
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| 18:38.50 | StefanYohansson | meek_geek: use synclient solution |
| 18:38.55 | jelly-home | justanotheruser: that's the same repo. Keep just the line with all three sections, main contrib non-free |
| 18:39.06 | zinx | justanotheruser: 'wheezy-backports', 'main', 'contrib', 'non-free', each a separate thing, it just lets you put them on the same line |
| 18:39.19 | meek_geek | StefanYohansson, I was the wiki page but could not understand synclient solution at all |
| 18:39.25 | meek_geek | I would try the link you gave me |
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| 18:41.48 | StefanYohansson | meek_geek: or if you prefer the easy way : http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/mouse |
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| 18:41.54 | StefanYohansson | meek_geek: search for "tap" |
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| 18:45.37 | justanotheruser | zinx: jelly-home thanks |
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| 18:48.29 | meek_geek | StefanYohansson, i cannot understand it ; but I understand how synclient adds stuff to the configuration of synaptics |
| 18:48.36 | meek_geek | Now I think I can do it |
| 18:48.47 | meek_geek | I am reading the manual of synclient |
| 18:49.46 | DacFarren | a |
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| 18:50.58 | DacFarren | sorry.. |
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| 18:55.20 | Duality | hi |
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| 18:55.32 | Duality | how can i send anything entered in tty1 over a serial device ? |
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| 18:57.02 | lukino | ciao |
| 18:57.10 | lukino | !list |
| 18:57.11 | dpkg | lukino: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 19:01.02 | ryeseisi | .weather 17055 |
| 19:01.10 | ryeseisi | or not :( |
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| 19:05.12 | i5um41ru | please help how to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7732831/ |
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| 19:08.21 | jelly-home | !tell i5um41ru -about bat |
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| 19:09.06 | jelly-home | i5um41ru: in addition to the basic-apt-troubleshooting (bat) data, show what happens if you follow apt-get's suggestion from line 5 of your paste |
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| 19:16.34 | nymous | hello guys |
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| 19:17.02 | nymous | I need help with packaging |
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| 19:17.38 | nymous | I want to make deb package of our software, currently for internal use only |
| 19:17.53 | centrx | dpkg, tell nymous about nmg |
| 19:18.05 | nymous | it won't be published, at least now |
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| 19:18.54 | nymous | I have read guidlines etc, I have difficulties with git-buildpackage |
| 19:19.12 | nymous | i don't understand how to use it properly in my case |
| 19:19.31 | nymous | my software is within git repo |
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| 19:20.11 | nymous | it is built with CI system |
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| 19:21.12 | nymous | most howtos about git-buildpackage is about packaging others' software, but i need to pack my own |
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| 19:21.21 | centrx | nymous, We would be happy to help with any specific questions |
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| 19:21.47 | centrx | nymous, You might also want to visit #debian-mentors on OFTC, or a git-related channel |
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| 19:22.08 | nymous | well, i have 2 main branches, develop for current and master for stable |
| 19:22.10 | jelly-home | nymous: if you plan for it to enter Debian some day, you can find experts on irc.oftc.net, #debian-mentors channel |
| 19:22.28 | nymous | no plans for that now |
| 19:23.18 | nymous | my question is mostly about workflow |
| 19:23.27 | nymous | how to properly use git-buildpackage |
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| 19:25.10 | nymous | i'm sorry, english is not my native, so it's kinda hard to explain my difficulties |
| 19:25.27 | nymous | first of all, upstream branch |
| 19:25.46 | nymous | do i really need it? it is my own software, my own repository |
| 19:25.58 | nymous | why should i create a branch for debian? |
| 19:26.17 | nymous | i guess i should create 2 branches for my 2 branches i use |
| 19:27.39 | nymous | second, what about tagging? afaik git-buildpackage tags commits too |
| 19:28.15 | nymous | do I still need to tag my commits like i did before? i.e. v3.0, etc |
| 19:28.36 | Porter | Hi everybody. Short question: Do you have any idea when Jessie will be released as stable? |
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| 19:28.53 | ryeseisi | when it's ready. |
| 19:28.55 | ryeseisi | :P |
| 19:29.10 | jelly-home | !jessie pool 1 |
| 19:29.10 | dpkg | ! jellÿ=2016-01-01 gsimmons=2015-08-27 peterrooney=2014-11-11 babīlen=2015-05-23 themíll=2015-06-23 abrötman=2015-07-23 |
| 19:29.21 | jelly-home | Porter: first day of 2016 |
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| 19:30.07 | jelly-home | it will be a holiday of everyone |
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| 19:30.11 | jelly-home | for* everyone |
| 19:30.22 | Porter | jelly-home: Thanks, appreciated |
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| 19:30.42 | jelly-home | unless, you know, it's not |
| 19:31.17 | nymous | i guess it will be released in 2-3 years, like previous versions did |
| 19:31.54 | nymous | code base is growing from release to release, so... i doubt it would release faster |
| 19:32.05 | centrx | I would say 6-8 months after the freeze date of Nov 5, 2014 |
| 19:32.08 | jelly-home | Porter: debian has no time-based release policy, any answer you get will be a guess |
| 19:32.20 | Porter | of course |
| 19:32.24 | jelly-home | centrx: if freeze actually happens |
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| 19:32.33 | jelly-home | around that time |
| 19:32.42 | centrx | What pessimistic talk |
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| 19:32.58 | LV-426 | nymous, git-buildpackage focuses on tracking the packaging code itself, which is completely unrelated to the repo you use to develop the software itself - the fact you happen to control both is irrelevant. In fact IIRC git-buildpackage commits a complete snapshot of the upstream code being packaged. |
| 19:33.01 | centrx | It is written "We will freeze at 23:59 UTC on the 5th of November 2014" |
| 19:33.03 | centrx | So it shall be done. |
| 19:33.11 | LV-426 | nymous, if you just want to package some code you have take a look at ant-deb-task: https://code.google.com/p/ant-deb-task/ |
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| 19:33.47 | jelly-home | centrx: https://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html is just a "proposed" policy |
| 19:34.26 | nymous | LV-426: i can just use debhelper with debuild, no problem setting up deb package by itself |
| 19:34.31 | centrx | It's written down |
| 19:34.38 | nymous | but i need versioning too |
| 19:35.06 | nymous | changelog, build version according to my last git tag, etc |
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| 19:37.56 | nymous | i can re-invent the wheel and do all the stuff with packaging using my home grown scripts, but i want to know "proper" way |
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| 19:38.44 | nymous | because guides says, if you have a git repo and want to package it, use git-buildpackage! |
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| 19:39.22 | nymous | actually, i need something like local ppa for my code |
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| 19:44.38 | meek_geek | guys when I use an external drive I see locks on the folders |
| 19:44.39 | meek_geek | why? |
| 19:44.45 | meek_geek | if it some permission issue ? |
| 19:44.51 | meek_geek | I was not there in other distros ? |
| 19:45.09 | meek_geek | I do not see delete option etc |
| 19:45.44 | invader | The moment when you realize you spend 4 hours working on your .bashrc file... |
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| 19:46.34 | meek_geek | anyone knows about the group we need to add the user so that the external drives are not read only ? |
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| 19:51.30 | lel | meek_geek: what filesystem uses your hard drive |
| 19:52.00 | meek_geek | lel, fat32 or ntfs i don't remember |
| 19:52.03 | meek_geek | how to check ? |
| 19:52.28 | meek_geek | installing gparted |
| 19:52.47 | ryeseisi | would make sense to be read-only if it's ntfs |
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| 19:52.56 | ryeseisi | if its fat32 that should be native unless permissions issue |
| 19:53.01 | DammitJim | Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service mana |
| 19:53.03 | DammitJim | what did I break? |
| 19:53.04 | lel | just execute "mount" without parameters in a terminal |
| 19:53.23 | nymous | meek_geek: just look at /etc/mtab |
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| 19:53.41 | meek_geek | lel, nymous its NTFS !! |
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| 19:53.50 | meek_geek | I am installing ntfs-3g package now !1 |
| 19:53.55 | meek_geek | am i doing the right thing ? |
| 19:54.02 | lel | nymous: same as calling mount without parameters? |
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| 19:54.12 | nymous | lel: almost |
| 19:54.18 | meek_geek | what should i do ? |
| 19:54.22 | meek_geek | NTFS-3g ? |
| 19:54.52 | lel | ntfs3g = open source read-write NTFS driver that runs under FUSE |
| 19:55.09 | nymous | meek_geek: https://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
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| 19:57.51 | meek_geek | nymous, so nfts-3g is the best choice i guess ? |
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| 19:58.10 | silicone | Hello. I am trying to add a new icon theme, but it has stopped part way through the process. Any ideas on what I could do? |
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| 19:58.52 | nymous | meek_geek: well, it's popular enough, so try. best choice for ntfs is windows, i guess :) |
| 19:59.44 | meek_geek | nymous, heh ok |
| 19:59.57 | meek_geek | nymous, I need to access my HDD for videos |
| 20:01.28 | lel | meek_geek: what says "ls -l /YOURdevice" ? |
| 20:01.30 | mjevans | I am unable to locate within the official public reference ( https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/developer-duties ) criteria or procedures for when a package is declaired to be no longer maintained (IE, what if the developer was hit by a bus / in a coma / etc). One of the LXC developers has already asked in a ~6 months outstanding bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734633 (just today) |
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| 20:02.59 | lel | meek_geek: are you able to handle a terminal? |
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| 20:05.05 | Mac101 | does the latest debian have an application level firewall? thinking of switching from win |
| 20:05.13 | meek_geek | lel, it gives me a list of files ? |
| 20:05.16 | meek_geek | on that drive |
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| 20:05.39 | lel | yep |
| 20:05.52 | meek_geek | lel, most folder says drwx |
| 20:05.52 | jhutchins | mjevans: It sort of depends on the urgency of the problem. |
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| 20:06.05 | lel | meek_geek: what does the second and third column say? |
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| 20:06.16 | jhutchins | mjevans: If a minor problem doesn't afffect many people, nobody may notice that the maintainer isn't responding. |
| 20:06.26 | meek_geek | lel, it says my username |
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| 20:06.49 | meek_geek | but i am already done installing ntfs-3g |
| 20:06.50 | jhutchins | mjevans: Some projects require practically no maintenance, although those may get assigned to a default group if the original maintainer looses interest. |
| 20:07.05 | lel | meek_geek: try to double click the icon with the lock |
| 20:07.42 | meek_geek | lel, but still i cannot create new folders / or del but i can paste a new folder in the drive or move files |
| 20:07.55 | meek_geek | lel, no more locks! they are gone now |
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| 20:07.59 | jhutchins | Mac101: Linux is fundamentally different on how you handle ports and firewalls. |
| 20:08.40 | jhutchins | Mac101: It can be used as a firewall, but a firewall on the local device is far less desirable. |
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| 20:09.03 | gbryal | I'd like to encrypt my whole drive. I am running Wheezy, and would like to preserve my installation. I have network and USB storage available for what I have now if I have to start over, but wondering what the best approach is, if I want to have the system I currently have, only encrypted. |
| 20:09.08 | Mac101 | i get the well basic basics i think what i mean is does the latest kernel have CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER ? |
| 20:09.11 | jhutchins | Mac101: In linux, there are no ports "open" unless a service has been activated to listen on that port. |
| 20:09.28 | gbryal | Most of my system comes from packages, but I have some manually installed software as well. |
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| 20:09.30 | lel | Mac101: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iptables |
| 20:10.06 | gbryal | My system has one SSD as the only local storage |
| 20:10.08 | lel | meek_geek: pasting a folder onto the hard drive and creating a folder needs the same permission |
| 20:10.25 | jhutchins | gbryal: Do you have a full system backup? |
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| 20:10.48 | meek_geek | lel, What do you have to say ? I can paste a folder but when i right click i cannot see delete options or create new folder option .. they are gray |
| 20:10.53 | meek_geek | i think I need a reboot |
| 20:10.53 | gbryal | I will before I proceed. I want to back up in a form that can be restored to the encrypted drive. |
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| 20:11.29 | jhutchins | gbryal: So a file-level backup, not a partition or image. |
| 20:12.10 | gbryal | Yeah. My hope would be for an image, but of course it wouldn't have the necessary setup to read the encryption then. |
| 20:12.29 | nymous | meek_geek: no, just remount |
| 20:12.39 | meek_geek | nymous, I did 20 times |
| 20:12.41 | meek_geek | still same |
| 20:12.46 | nymous | mount /your_dev -o remount,rw |
| 20:12.48 | meek_geek | Locks on the folders are gone |
| 20:12.53 | nymous | or something like that |
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| 20:13.07 | meek_geek | anyways I just want to copy stuff to the drive |
| 20:13.11 | meek_geek | it did the job |
| 20:13.36 | nymous | so, reboot helped you? |
| 20:13.50 | Mac101 | jhutchins how do you prevent an app calling home? |
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| 20:13.59 | mjevans | jhutchins: what of something that's had an upstream release which improves security capabilities (IE libcap 2.24 enabling userspace LXC) to which there hasn't been any maintainer response to bugs in at least 6 months? (only a few days shy of that) |
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| 20:14.09 | lel | Mac101: block the port using iptables |
| 20:14.10 | gbryal | I guess I probably know the answer already. I am just going to have to deal with reinstalling packages and external software when I get the new system up, and the best I will have to restore is my stuff in /home and maybe /opt, /usr/local |
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| 20:14.58 | nymous | gbryal: do backup, use livecd, encrypt, fix boot, boot |
| 20:14.59 | Mac101 | lel what if the app can call out on watever port it wants? |
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| 20:16.16 | silicone | is it possible to install new icon themes via command line in debian? |
| 20:16.41 | gbryal | my current install doesn't have a /boot partition, it's all on / |
| 20:16.48 | lel | Mac101: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45072/how-to-control-internet-access-for-each-program |
| 20:16.53 | gbryal | so encrypting that will encrypt my boot files |
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| 20:17.22 | Mac101 | lel thanks was reading that very threa as we speak |
| 20:17.26 | Mac101 | -.@ |
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| 20:18.01 | gbryal | I remember doing an after-the-fact full disk encrypt with TrueCrypt, but I think that was on Windows and there was some specific Windows stuff to enable that. |
| 20:18.11 | gbryal | and of course, TC is sort of up in the air |
| 20:18.14 | Mac101 | thats why i asked whther the latest debian kernal has the CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER module? |
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| 20:19.07 | gbryal | jhutchins, nymous: thanks, I'd better get on that backup, then. |
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| 20:20.48 | nymous | gbryal: always do backups of your data. not sure about booting from encrypted volume though. |
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| 20:21.58 | otorp | i tried to encrypt my hdd after i installed my OS and it failed - 4 times (i had enough backups thanks to my wonderful brain) |
| 20:22.48 | jhutchins | Mac101: You get your apps from reputable, validated sources where you and others can see the source code. |
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| 20:24.26 | Mac101 | jhutchins sadly thats not realistic |
| 20:24.32 | Mac101 | :( |
| 20:25.00 | Mac101 | loads of production software ppl need that will phone home |
| 20:25.19 | jhutchins | Mac101: Not in Linux. |
| 20:25.33 | Mac101 | hell take oracles aqusition of virtualbox i bet that reports stuff home |
| 20:25.37 | otorp | and also not in GNU/Linux |
| 20:25.40 | Mac101 | whos going to audit all that? |
| 20:25.42 | jhutchins | Mac101: Remember, in Debian, home = Debian. |
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| 20:26.14 | jhutchins | Mac101: Did you have an actual Debian support question? |
| 20:26.33 | Mac101 | yeah whether the latest kernel has CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER ? |
| 20:26.57 | jhutchins | Mac101: Kernel source is available on the debian servers, as are the config files the kernel was built with. |
| 20:27.20 | Havis | Mac101, check /boot if there is config file for your kernel |
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| 20:27.36 | Mac101 | i dont have debian installed but i want to switch from win |
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| 20:28.14 | Havis | Mac101, CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER=m in debian testing kernel ;-) |
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| 20:28.28 | Mac101 | thanks |
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| 20:29.05 | Mac101 | also hmm could you restrict an application with selinux? |
| 20:29.19 | Mac101 | also hmm could you restrict an applications net access with selinux? |
| 20:29.21 | Mac101 | * |
| 20:29.37 | Havis | Mac101, u can with apparmor |
| 20:30.08 | Mac101 | thanks |
| 20:30.13 | Mac101 | :) |
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| 20:31.12 | rsw | what're the appropriate permissions for .bashrc, and what is the appropriate method used for setting them? |
| 20:31.50 | silicone | Does one need to install updates in Debain from time to time? If so how can this be done? |
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| 20:32.12 | centrx | !security |
| 20:32.12 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>. |
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| 20:32.52 | err404 | !dsa |
| 20:32.52 | dpkg | [dsa] Debian Security Announcement, see http://www.debian.org/security/ and http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/ ; RSS feeds at http://www.debian.org/security/dsa (titles only) and http://www.debian.org/security/dsa-long (summaries). Ask me about <dsa lookup DSA-nnnn> for information about the packages affected. See also <tracker of doom>, <debsecan>, <dsa team>. |
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| 20:34.41 | silicone | dpkg: browser security? |
| 20:34.42 | dpkg | Since Debian 7 "Wheezy", <security> fixes for several popular web browsers often enter <stable> via new versions, not <security backports>. See https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/i386/release-notes/ch-information#browser-security for more information. |
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| 20:37.53 | otorp | rsw: .bashrc in /etc or in ~ (home) ? |
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| 20:38.23 | rsw | ~ otorp |
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| 20:39.51 | meek_geek | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.55 | meek_geek | What is the problem ? |
| 20:39.58 | meek_geek | I am using XFCE |
| 20:40.27 | mr_foobar_baz | I had the same issue with the MATE desktop environment |
| 20:40.34 | mr_foobar_baz | we are both using wheezy |
| 20:40.49 | mr_foobar_baz | I switched to awesome where it works so I didn't figure out a solution |
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| 20:44.39 | mr_foobar_baz | meek_geek: I guess you could try if it's the same in lxde as well |
| 20:44.48 | mr_foobar_baz | meek_geek: Or just switch to awesome :P |
| 20:45.19 | meek_geek | mr_foobar_baz, thanks man |
| 20:45.22 | mr_foobar_baz | meek_geek: disclaimer: you'll spend at least 1 day configuring awesome |
| 20:45.34 | meek_geek | mr_foobar_baz, haha ok |
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| 20:50.38 | rsw | still there otorp ? |
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| 20:51.44 | rsw | i got -rw-r--r for the appropriate permissions, although i'm still strugging to understand how to apply them with chmod. @ otorp |
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| 20:54.12 | otorp | rsw: chmod 644 yourFile |
| 20:54.15 | bluestreak0 | Hi, which is more stable/polished/easy to maintain: sid, testing or Arch? Im looking for something up to date |
| 20:54.29 | otorp | rsw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod#Octal_modes |
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| 20:55.51 | otorp | bluestreak0: does stability matter? |
| 20:56.22 | Bombo | i'm trying to compile a new kernel, after 'make menuconfig' saveed the .config, i started 'fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=10.custom kernel_image' i get '* Restart config...' and being asked again for config options (like make config) |
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| 21:03.47 | darsie | Can you recommend a free dyndns provider that works with an IP update client package in debian? |
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| 21:05.32 | AquaL1te | darsie: apt-cache search dyndns |
| 21:05.38 | AquaL1te | btw, dyndns is not free anymore |
| 21:06.14 | darsie | AquaL1te: Yeah, I've searched the packages and I left dyndns. |
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| 21:07.05 | AquaL1te | darsie: ah sorry, didn't read the question properly... time for me to sleep |
| 21:07.13 | darsie | :) |
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| 21:11.22 | Bombo | ok got it https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/12/msg01398.html ;) |
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| 21:19.54 | Guest5522 | I tried to upgrade wheezy to jessie and it appears to have created a broken system. I kept going back and forth between `apt-get -f install` and `apt-get dist-upgrade` having it install a few packages at a time and I can finally get into X. However this is the output of `apt-get -f install` now: http://pastebin.com/nAEhpbp3. I tried deleting the deb file mentioned there and it re-downloads it, but it still is not able to extract the data. |
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| 21:21.18 | chreuben | Has anyone else come across a situation in which the display manager (LXDM) won’t let user log in as anyone other than root? |
| 21:21.40 | Guest5522 | chreuben, does it immediately log you out? |
| 21:22.19 | chreuben | Guest5522: It’s hard to tell. It doesn’t appear to leave the LXDM login screen at all. There’s no flicker, no desktop, etc. |
| 21:23.13 | Guest5522 | chreuben, hmm. I had a similar issue where it looked like it was trying to log in and then went right back to the login screen. it was an issue with a file owned by root:root in the users home directory |
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| 21:23.25 | chreuben | Oooh. :-o |
| 21:23.34 | chreuben | That would explain a lot. Ty, Guest5522. I’ll look into that. |
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| 21:24.52 | Guest5522 | chreuben, however it was an ubuntu system using lightdm, so not sure if it would be related to your problem |
| 21:25.25 | chreuben | Guest5522: If it isn’t a matter of permissions, I’ll need to call an exorcist. |
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| 21:26.47 | Guest5522 | chreuben, also try try apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you don't have any packages not completely installed |
| 21:26.54 | chreuben | nods |
| 21:27.59 | PryMar56 | chreuben, run `getent passwd <username>` |
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| 21:29.15 | PryMar56 | you want : user:x:500:500::/home/user:/bin/bash |
| 21:29.36 | PryMar56 | although that is on RH |
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| 21:31.57 | Guest5522 | PryMar56, output on debian is like this for me: user:x:1000:1000:user,,,:/home/user:/bin/bash |
| 21:32.50 | PryMar56 | Guest5522, yes - different starting user ID |
| 21:34.08 | Guest5522 | PryMar56, and the commas in there |
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| 21:35.35 | PryMar56 | Guest5522, but with getent data like that, the system can log you in |
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| 21:38.58 | Guest5522 | I tried to upgrade wheezy to jessie and it appears to have created a broken system. I kept going back and forth between `apt-get -f install` and `apt-get dist-upgrade` having it install a few packages at a time and I can finally get into X. However this is the output of `apt-get -f install` now: http://pastebin.com/nAEhpbp3. I tried deleting the deb file mentioned there and it re-downloads it, but it still is not able to extract the data. |
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| 21:42.46 | nymous | Guest5522: do you have enough disk space? |
| 21:43.25 | Guest5522 | nymous, yes |
| 21:43.49 | Guest5522 | nymous, /var has 1.8 GB free |
| 21:45.13 | nymous | well, it looks like you have broken deb file or do not have enough free space |
| 21:45.38 | shingouz | !tell Guest5522 about jessie |
| 21:45.54 | Guest5522 | nymous, I re-downloaded it from a different source and they both have the same md5sum |
| 21:46.46 | nymous | what about your rootfs? |
| 21:47.02 | nymous | lib/modules etc |
| 21:47.30 | shingouz | Guest5522: read what dpkg told you. you also seem to have a crapload of packages that want to be autoremoved. place the kernel on hold and do the autoremove. you really should ask this on #debian-next on oftc, though |
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| 21:47.57 | Guest5522 | shingouz, I can't do autoremove with broken packages |
| 21:48.13 | nymous | dpkg clearly says it can't write to /lib/modules |
| 21:48.14 | dpkg | no idea, nymous |
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| 21:48.18 | Guest5522 | says #debian-next is invite only |
| 21:48.19 | shingouz | put the kernel on hold |
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| 21:48.52 | shingouz | Guest5522: on oftc. read /topic or what dpkg msg'ed you just a couple of minutes ago |
| 21:48.59 | jhutchins | Guest5522: You're on the wrong server. |
| 21:49.14 | Guest5522 | oh, sorry. |
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| 21:50.03 | jhutchins | nymous: I think it says unexpected end of data. |
| 21:50.42 | nymous | well, afair it might be because of out of free space |
| 21:50.54 | nymous | not sure though |
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| 21:55.03 | otorp | i have to try something, so please highlight me (just write my nick) |
| 21:55.53 | shingouz | otorp: |
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| 21:56.01 | otorp | thx |
| 21:56.05 | otorp | it works |
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| 21:57.20 | Guest5522 | shingouz, putting it on hold doesn't allow me to autoremove because the package on hold has unmet dependencies |
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| 21:58.13 | Guest5522 | shingouz, hmm, however I can remove it and then autoremove everything else. |
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| 22:04.17 | aphoriser | I've added 2nd card on debianb 7.5 - I see it in ifconfig and even get DHCP, etc - but I cant see the newly installed controller in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 22:05.09 | aphoriser | do I need to kernel make config again or something? |
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| 22:07.22 | zeus_ | Hi all, probabily you already know that Microsoft has closed no-ip.org . I'm here to ask you for alternatives to no-ip.org. Suggestions ? |
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| 22:08.32 | deb | zoneedit, he.net etc? |
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| 22:10.13 | Energy | hello suckers of my dick ! |
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| 22:11.42 | zeus_ | deb: thank you for reply. Can you please tell if it works duc or similar client under debian ? |
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| 22:13.25 | deb | zeus_, as the client only do a get some url to update, you can just do a wget usr to get ip updated i guess |
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| 22:14.27 | zeus_ | deb: ok ... i'm visiting zonedit homepage. |
| 22:14.34 | zeus_ | deb: thanks again |
| 22:14.52 | deb | good luck |
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| 22:16.28 | glycol | is anyone else getting connection drops since the last kernel upgrade on jessie? |
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| 22:19.23 | jelly-home | judd, checkbackport znc |
| 22:19.24 | judd | Backporting package znc in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
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| 22:34.29 | darsie | Can you recommend a free dyndns provider that works with an IP update client package in debian? |
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| 22:38.19 | glycol | darsie: http://freedns.afraid.org/ ? |
| 22:39.14 | some-cowbell | what tools are available to scale pages in a pdf? |
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| 22:42.39 | gnoid | How can i get non uniq lines of file? |
| 22:43.00 | Brigo | gnoid, to count them? |
| 22:43.13 | gnoid | no, just print |
| 22:43.31 | Brigo | gnoid, did you know the uniq program? |
| 22:43.51 | gnoid | *non duplicate lines |
| 22:44.09 | Brigo | gnoid, uniq - report or omit repeated lines |
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| 22:44.18 | gnoid | yes, but it doesent worked for me |
| 22:44.55 | Brigo | gnoid, why? |
| 22:45.03 | jelly-home | gnoid: duplicate lines have to be one immediately after another in input; usually you first sort the input |
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| 22:45.41 | Brigo | and if you want not to print both duplicated lines, try uniq -u |
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| 22:46.08 | gnoid | jelly-home: thanks, that's enough |
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| 22:50.12 | abrotman | some-cowbell: scale to what? |
| 22:51.06 | gnoid | Brigo: working with sort, thanks! |
| 22:51.23 | Brigo | gnoid, yw :) |
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| 23:05.47 | leku | hello..just tried to do an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade on my sid box, now I can't login to x-windows after a reboot..it just keeps kicking me back to the DM |
| 23:05.58 | leku | I can switch to the console and login with that account fine |
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| 23:06.49 | abrotman | try a new GUI account? |
| 23:07.01 | leku | k |
| 23:07.15 | leku | same |
| 23:08.56 | abrotman | try a different GUI |
| 23:09.00 | abrotman | if tha tfails, read your X logs |
| 23:09.44 | leku | hm |
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| 23:12.56 | leku | cant startx |
| 23:13.09 | leku | dont see anything obvious in logs |
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| 23:13.24 | doublehp | leku: pastebinit |
| 23:13.51 | leku | no way to c/p |
| 23:14.00 | tilt | leku: try /home/youruser/.xsession-errors |
| 23:14.03 | leku | k |
| 23:14.15 | leku | when I do apt-get upgrade, it says there are 499 packages not upgraded.. |
| 23:14.17 | leku | what does that mean? |
| 23:14.33 | tilt | leku: nothing. what's in .xsession-errors ? |
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| 23:14.45 | leku | it says OpenSSL version mesmiatch. Built against 1000105f, you have 10001090 |
| 23:15.13 | tilt | leku: ok, first of all, copy&paste on the text console |
| 23:15.23 | leku | trying to install ssh so i can login from this box.. |
| 23:15.23 | tilt | leku: try apt-get install gpm |
| 23:15.28 | tilt | heh? |
| 23:15.38 | leku | 1s |
| 23:15.40 | tilt | you can't even log in :D |
| 23:15.45 | leku | i'm at the console |
| 23:15.51 | tilt | yaaa ;D |
| 23:15.52 | leku | and using my laptop |
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| 23:16.15 | tilt | ok :) |
| 23:16.18 | leku | interesting |
| 23:16.20 | leku | it wont let me ssh in |
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| 23:18.47 | leku | hmm |
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| 23:24.12 | leku | finally |
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| 23:24.43 | leku | I forgot I had all this BS security crap setup..pam.d+google auth, sshguard, + sshd_config with AllowUsers stanza |
| 23:25.08 | leku | X is now working too |
| 23:25.10 | leku | amazing |
| 23:25.33 | anonnumberanon | Is there a straight forward way to fix my Data hard drive which Debian does not see anymore? |
| 23:25.39 | anonnumberanon | ERROR: http://a.pomf.se/szvbjv.png |
| 23:25.59 | anonnumberanon | (shared with Windows and Windows sees it) |
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| 23:26.40 | doublehp | leku: aptitude install patebinit |
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| 23:26.54 | leku | sp? |
| 23:26.54 | doublehp | or wgetpaste, depends on version |
| 23:27.11 | anonnumberanon | It was all good until I had to go in Windows and during boot, happened a chkdisk |
| 23:27.43 | silicone | iI was trying to get spell check to work. I downloaded aspell-uk and put aspell-uk in the spell-checking-language. How do I use the spellcheck now? |
| 23:28.09 | silicone | sorry wrong channel |
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| 23:40.44 | doublehp | leku: ? |
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| 23:53.49 | xzgv | In vim to go down one line, thes j key is used. What key do use in nano? thanks |
| 23:54.23 | abrotman | the arrow key? |
| 23:54.35 | xzgv | ok thanks |
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