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| 00:24.03 | jlim | hey guys |
| 00:24.42 | abrotman | stands behind themill |
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| 00:31.58 | bhurstpdx | hello, is anyone familiar with the debian Powerpc Port? |
| 00:32.12 | dondelelcaro | bhurstpdx: moderately; best to just ask your question, though. |
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| 01:27.03 | cerebro | anyone know if there is a pkg that will auto-delete stuff from a filesystem after a specific number of days |
| 01:27.17 | cerebro | and can handle exceptions? |
| 01:27.24 | karlpinc | cerebro: tmpwatch? |
| 01:27.59 | karlpinc | cerebro: I swear that was it, but can't find it. |
| 01:28.19 | cerebro | can’t see it either |
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| 01:28.46 | daytric | Hello. Do you guys know of a command that is used to read the information of a parition's superblock? |
| 01:28.59 | cerebro | tmpreaper, by the looks |
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| 01:29.32 | cerebro | thx |
| 01:30.13 | karlpinc | cerebro: Yup. That's it. |
| 01:30.41 | karlpinc | daytric: You mean filesystem superblock? Or partition table? |
| 01:30.53 | abrotman | cerebro: cruft? |
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| 01:32.30 | daytric | A parition'S superblock. To read the metadata of a parition. |
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| 01:33.07 | karlpinc | daytric: like 'sfdisk -l' |
| 01:33.13 | karlpinc | ? |
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| 01:35.12 | daytric | Yes. Thank you. |
| 01:35.22 | karlpinc | daytric: 'parted print' handles more kinds of partition labels. |
| 01:36.34 | daytric | Ok. Well, thanks for your help. |
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| 01:37.46 | karlpinc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:38.30 | cerebro | ‘tmpreaper’ looks like the goods (which is a fork of ‘tmpwatch’) - thx |
| 01:38.32 | karlpinc | memtest86+ passes when run overnight... I suspect hardware. It happens with both a 486 and 686pae kernel. |
| 01:38.34 | abrotman | karlpinc: something in balsa |
| 01:38.49 | karlpinc | abrotman: Nah. It's happened in rsync and in fetchmail too. |
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| 01:40.49 | karlpinc | I also forced a fsck and that passed. |
| 01:41.08 | karlpinc | (Not that that informs swap, but it is the same disk. No smart on the disk btw.) |
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| 01:45.10 | rebauld_ | is the internet closed today? i have never seen no posts here for this long before |
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| 01:46.25 | ryeseisi | Everyone's system must be running smoothly today :p |
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| 01:46.47 | cerebro | :D |
| 01:46.52 | rebauld_ | ryeseisi: come on be serious ;) |
| 01:46.57 | ryeseisi | XD |
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| 01:47.53 | rebauld_ | isn't it when things ARE running smoothly that THEY decide to break their systems ? |
| 01:48.45 | rebauld_ | i've been installing debian for a while and never had real problems unless i caused them ;) |
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| 01:52.05 | ryeseisi | I've used just about every variant out there.. debian is the only one so far to not give me any issues unless I touched something I shouldnt have |
| 01:52.21 | ryeseisi | Gentoo, Arch, et al. can't boast the same :p |
| 01:52.43 | rebauld_ | add mandriva/mageia there twice |
| 01:53.20 | rebauld_ | i haven't tried open-mandriva but don't plan on it |
| 01:53.42 | phy1729 | I have issues with /etc/default (I hear it's going away soon anyway) and networking |
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| 01:54.29 | rebauld_ | prods phy1729 to actually tell what his issue is |
| 01:55.54 | phy1729 | rebauld_: spin up VM, it's default route is 10.0.2.2; then copy over the /etc/network/interfaces I want with a default route of 192.168.42.3, debian hangs forever because it can't remove that default route |
| 01:56.36 | rebauld_ | use the route command yourself? |
| 01:56.43 | rebauld_ | put it into a script |
| 01:56.49 | phy1729 | no sudo networking reload |
| 01:57.10 | phy1729 | or just sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 |
| 01:57.16 | phy1729 | both will hang |
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| 01:59.23 | rebauld_ | route add default gw 192.x.x.x ethX after you del it |
| 01:59.44 | rebauld_ | replace the x's with correct numbers |
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| 02:00.50 | phy1729 | that works but is still a hack |
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| 02:01.09 | phy1729 | I just kind of put up with it; y'all asked for issues so I gave one :p |
| 02:02.24 | rebauld_ | thanks :) |
| 02:02.27 | treah | Anyone ever had an issue where installing the nvidia drivers in Jessie breaks the kernel. Like it messes up the initrid and kernel panics at boot? |
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| 02:03.56 | treah | Ive also had stable -> jessie -> sid break the initrid, but thats kind of expected from unstable branch and i was kinda doing it rather ugly |
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| 02:06.36 | rebauld_ | what are you using the initrd for? |
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| 02:06.41 | rebauld_ | what module |
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| 02:07.23 | treah | it gets rebuilt when you update nvidia |
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| 02:07.49 | treah | talking about the nvidia binary drivers not the noveau |
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| 02:08.04 | treah | and this is using apt-get not like doing it manual or any other jazz |
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| 02:34.07 | WindozeNT | hi |
| 02:34.22 | WindozeNT | trying to build a DEB package. Getting an error saying it expects a package name where the ending new line should be. |
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| 02:36.35 | tensorpudding | WindozeNT: What command are you using? |
| 02:36.49 | WindozeNT | I've tried dpkg and dpkg-deb |
| 02:36.58 | WindozeNT | both with the -b switch |
| 02:37.24 | abrotman | which pckage? which version of linux? |
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| 02:37.51 | tensorpudding | I think it's standard to use debuild. |
| 02:37.53 | WindozeNT | It's on iOS. It's a package I'm making for Cydia. |
| 02:38.47 | abrotman | so why would yo usak here? |
| 02:39.00 | tensorpudding | iOS isn't supported here, it's not supported by Debian at all. |
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| 02:39.49 | abrotman | WindozeNT: ask the person that created the package |
| 02:40.10 | WindozeNT | I'm the one who created the package |
| 02:40.24 | abrotman | WindozeNT: this is not a general packaging channel, this is a Debian support channel |
| 02:40.34 | WindozeNT | alright then |
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| 03:15.56 | tohuw | how can I download a specific file from a package? Specifically, I want a conf file included in the default dovecot installation. |
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| 03:19.37 | abrotman | dpkg: tell tohuw about confnew |
| 03:20.22 | tohuw | abrotman: confmiss will work. Thanks! |
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| 03:25.12 | zM | Hey |
| 03:25.25 | zM | Is there some Cpp programmers here ? |
| 03:25.43 | function9 | what program can I use that lists all the current programs running and shows their process id? |
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| 03:26.23 | Dewi | function9: ps |
| 03:26.43 | Dewi | see also psgrep, pstree, top |
| 03:27.00 | Dewi | (for searching, tree view, and task stats) |
| 03:27.14 | E00650074006F | Hi, are there comand only for bluetooh? |
| 03:27.49 | function9 | Dewi: how about one that shows me how much memory or cpu usage these programs are using |
| 03:27.58 | Dewi | function9: top has that |
| 03:28.04 | function9 | ahh ty |
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| 03:34.44 | asterismo | hi people |
| 03:34.59 | asterismo | i'm trying to compile a custom kernel, just for learning |
| 03:35.12 | asterismo | i have an AMD FX 8120 8-core CPU bulldozer |
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| 03:35.41 | asterismo | i know that for apt-build config, the GCC compiler architecture should be bdver1, right? |
| 03:36.17 | asterismo | is it possible to activate this in the CPU type and features? i only see pentium, pentium pro or AMD Athlon, K8... and stuff |
| 03:36.35 | asterismo | which one of this would be the best for a bulldozer CPU? |
| 03:36.49 | asterismo | codename zambezi |
| 03:37.32 | asterismo | any ideas? |
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| 03:38.19 | cnz | I purged exim4 but for some reason it still keeps loading on reboot any ideas? |
| 03:44.04 | jmcnaught | cnz: exim4 is broken down to a few packages. "aptitude search ~i~nexim4" will show you what's still installed. Note that you do need an MTA installed. Any of the packages that provides mail-transport-agent will do |
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| 03:59.43 | visiteur_1 | salut |
| 03:59.47 | Extensa5630G | i want to update my debian wheezy's kde 4.8.4 to kde 4.12.5+, like the one in fedora 20 |
| 04:00.25 | Extensa5630G | 4.8.4's graphical performances are soemwhat bad, while 4.12.5, the one found in fedora 20 kde is perfect |
| 04:00.34 | visiteur_1 | please read it and spread it: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/focus-fusion-empowertheworld--3 |
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| 04:36.36 | tohuw | Beyond the year 2038 problem, is there a compelling reason to use a 64-bit kernel for a lightweight (1-2 GB of RAM) web server? |
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| 04:53.26 | cerebro | we had stuff that worked under etch/squeeze that now doesn’t |
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| 05:19.24 | ag4ve_ | so maybe this is too ubuntu-ish for here, but how do i remove a tty from upstart without rebooting a box? |
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| 05:20.23 | otorp_ | ag4ve_: kill the process? |
| 05:20.42 | ag4ve_ | tried kill -HUP 1 and telinit q |
| 05:21.21 | ag4ve_ | there is no longer a getty process looking for the tty, but we're getting these messages: |
| 05:21.39 | ag4ve_ | getty[2385]: /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory |
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| 05:26.42 | ag4ve_ | initctl stop ttyUSB0 |
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| 05:28.34 | q0 | hi how do we set cursor focus manually in terminal |
| 05:28.52 | q0 | is it wm related |
| 05:29.23 | rryoumaa | wmctrl might do it. btw we often call the mouse cursor a pointer to distinguish from text cursor. |
| 05:29.42 | rryoumaa | or devilspie or something maybe? |
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| 05:31.05 | cerebro | any udev experts out there? |
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| 05:32.19 | jmcnaught | !anyone |
| 05:32.19 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 05:43.22 | crackerjackz | this debian installer keeps hanging on configuring apt |
| 05:43.42 | crackerjackz | any ideas? |
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| 05:44.19 | crackerjackz | this is the image im trying to use debian-live-7.5.0-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso |
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| 05:49.45 | ag4ve_ | crackerjackz: you using a cd? did you confirm the image and then did you confirm the media? |
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| 05:50.09 | ag4ve_ | is the hdd good? |
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| 05:51.27 | ag4ve_ | iirc, that's basically the first point it's writing data to the fs on the disk |
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| 05:52.35 | crackerjackz | ag4ve_, the hd and the dvd should be good but i dont know how to check the dvd |
| 05:52.40 | crackerjackz | i know there is a way though |
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| 05:53.13 | ag4ve_ | the easiest way is through the installer's ui |
| 05:53.23 | crackerjackz | i just reinstalled win8 on it and partitioned thedrive putting debian on the other.. trying to ween this chick off windows |
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| 05:53.46 | cerebro | what is output via ‘alt-4’? |
| 05:54.04 | ag4ve_ | however: dd of=/dev/<dvd dev> | sha512 and compare that with the checksum on the site should work too |
| 05:54.15 | crackerjackz | ag4ve_, well i restarted the install |
| 05:54.24 | crackerjackz | it hasn't got to the configuring apt part yet |
| 05:54.33 | crackerjackz | how ever i am trying something different this time |
| 05:54.44 | crackerjackz | last time i used the wireless ... this time its hardwired |
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| 05:54.57 | meek_geek | anyone else using greybird theme here and experiencing white fonts ( grey on white ) fonts in the programs here ? |
| 05:55.29 | crackerjackz | ag4ve_, its on installing system right now.. about 50% done |
| 05:55.42 | ag4ve_ | crackerjackz: also what cerebro said - tty4 should be syslogs from the install |
| 05:56.04 | ag4ve_ | well, that should be fine then |
| 05:56.22 | ag4ve_ | no idea why net would make any difference though |
| 05:56.38 | crackerjackz | ag4ve_, so when it gets stuck again check tty4? |
| 05:57.02 | ag4ve_ | yup |
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| 05:57.15 | meek_geek | I am having issues with themes on xfce - debian 7.5 |
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| 06:00.33 | jmcnaught | meek_geek: unless you describe the issues you're having nobody will be able to help you |
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| 06:03.00 | crackerjackz | ag4ve_, cerebro alright thanks |
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| 06:04.57 | meek_geek | jmcnaught, the same issue i was describing the other day ; I installed xfce and then greybird theme which requires murrine engine and it shows GREY ON WHITE text in various apps like tranmission-gtk etc at many places like filter-bar/status bar .. I noticed that murrine-engine comes with murrine-themes and it has greybird built-in which is different from the shimmer project one ; maybe that is messing with the other one as built |
| 06:04.58 | meek_geek | -in ones has menu in black and white ; but shimmer project one has menu in white and black ( text); i tried to remove the greybird theme that came with murrine-themes package but no use! still problem |
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| 06:06.33 | meek_geek | anyone ? |
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| 06:13.01 | crackerjackz | ag4ve_, my idea worked... hardwiring it worked. its installing grub now |
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| 06:16.36 | crackerjackz | okay well the install worked but when i boot the computer it says operating system missing. i know the os is on there .. there are two different OS's my guess is it didn't install grub correctly |
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| 06:16.49 | crackerjackz | there are 9 partitions |
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| 06:19.47 | Tumulte | hello ! I'm trying to run a virtualbox with multiple core but vtX is disabled. I've checked the BIOS over and over but I got clickbios (asus) and I can't find any option |
| 06:20.09 | Tumulte | can I check this option from debian ? |
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| 06:22.18 | bluestreak0 | Hi, which distro is more polished/stable/easy to maintain: sid, testing, or arch? |
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| 06:26.29 | jelly-home | bluestreak0: try asking in ##linux if noone answers here, there may be someone with adequate experience of debian's devel branches and arch linux |
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| 06:34.50 | ochiottes | i'm setting up an ntp server, it's listening on 123/udp but there is no /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift to be found. i have my local server send requests to the public ntp servers but i don't get responses. 'ntpq -p' shows all fields 0's. do you guys have any idea what's missing in my setup? |
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| 06:35.39 | ChrisH | ochiottes: please show ntp.conf ; ntpq -p on paste.debian.net |
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| 06:36.32 | ochiottes | ChrisH: what's that nice program that automates sending out from CLI to pastebin? |
| 06:37.19 | ochiottes | *output |
| 06:37.45 | ChrisH | pastebinit I assume... I never used that myself. |
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| 06:38.44 | rozie | pastebinit indeed |
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| 06:43.19 | ochiottes | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/107705 |
| 06:43.53 | jelly-home | looks like networking or firewall issues |
| 06:44.51 | ochiottes | how i hate those words |
| 06:45.30 | ChrisH | ochiottes: no servers could be reached. one test would be, stop ntp and run ntpdate -d 0.pool.ntp.org ; asummed anser: no servers for synchronisation found (or similar wording) |
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| 06:46.18 | ochiottes | ChrisH: it actually gave good output, tried that yesterday |
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| 06:47.06 | ochiottes | yep, it reaches the servers |
| 06:47.57 | ochiottes | http://paste.debian.net/107707/ |
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| 06:50.36 | kargquipsy | Hello I'm new with LXC on Debian Wheezy and have a small problem with networking. I'm using eth0 as br0, so my container should be attached directly to the physical LAN. PING from container to host works. PING from container to another container works. PING from host to container works. So INSIDE the LXC host all is good. But PING from containers to LAN result in "Destination Host Unreachable". iptables -L show completely empty rules (are rules needed?). / |
| 06:51.40 | ochiottes | jelly-home: i have no local firewall on my server, forwarded 123/udp in my router |
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| 06:52.07 | ChrisH | ochiottes: forward on your router?? |
| 06:52.47 | ochiottes | yes |
| 06:53.26 | jelly-home | ochiottes: run something like tcpdump -ni eth0 port 123 & on your machine, do the ntpq command again. It shouldn't be needed to punch a hole thru your NAT/router to make ntp work. |
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| 06:54.17 | ochiottes | i've done that, it only shows outgoing ntp traffic, nothing coming in |
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| 06:54.46 | ChrisH | ochiottes: 1. read lines 46-57 from your initial pasting. and remove the restrict lines at the beginning. 2. does ifconfig -a show more than 1 interface? |
| 06:54.47 | jelly-home | so you're either talking to an unresponsive server, or something is eating return traffic |
| 06:54.47 | ochiottes | the only device in between is my switch, maybe that is malconfigured. i'll have to check that |
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| 06:57.45 | ochiottes | ChrisH: i only have one interface. my local server is actually responding to requests from other devices on the network. it just doesn't sync with public servers |
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| 07:02.17 | ochiottes | my switch is allowing ntp traffic both ways |
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| 07:04.44 | ochiottes | ChrisH: i have removed those 'restrict'-lines and no change |
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| 07:05.47 | ChrisH | Just checked one of my ntp.conf files and ntp.conf does not match ntpq -p output with regards to the servers mentioned... strange |
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| 07:09.05 | ChrisH | none of my ntpd is doing whats configurd in ntp.conf ?!? |
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| 07:12.35 | ochiottes | it seems time machines have a mind of their own |
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| 07:15.53 | jelly-home | ChrisH: forward records for stuff.pool.ntp.org are dynamically generated and _will_ differ from PTR records of the actual machines in the pool, and ntpq -p localhost output resolves hostnames from IP addresses |
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| 07:16.58 | jelly-home | ChrisH: running "getent hosts 0.pool.ntp.org" three times in a row is likely to show a different IP (or different order) each time |
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| 07:18.14 | ChrisH | jelly-home: thats known. I habe 0.debian.pool till 3.debian.pool in my config and it only picks up one local server which is not mentioned in my config (but does ntp broadcasts) |
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| 07:21.02 | jelly-home | you probably didn't forbid it to listen to broadcasts |
| 07:21.49 | jelly-home | (#broadcastclient uncommented?) |
| 07:22.09 | ChrisH | jelly-home: found the reason... there was... (from initial install) a /var/lib/ntp/ntp.conf.dhcp which gets preferred |
| 07:23.41 | ochiottes | that's another thing that confuses me. /var/lib/ntp is empty here |
| 07:25.27 | ChrisH | ochiottes: To this is a siode effect of ntpd not reaching any server. |
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| 07:31.21 | V^V | quick question, what version of kde is current in debian |
| 07:31.24 | V^V | ? |
| 07:32.44 | jelly-home | V^V: 4.8.something in debian 7 |
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| 07:34.14 | V^V | jelly-home: thanks |
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| 07:34.30 | ochiottes | ChrisH: yes, sure. well, honestly, i'm clueless now. i had ntpd work on that machine before. the only thing i can think of is that my provider is now filtering 123/udp |
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| 07:36.29 | DAGR8ONE | I followed this guide https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers to install nvidia drivers for my gfx card.. However I have a slight problem.. when dragging windows the window gui begins to stutter |
| 07:36.32 | DAGR8ONE | any ideas? |
| 07:37.21 | ChrisH | ochiottes: give -4 in /etc/default/ntp a try, maybe there is some issue with IPv4/v6 |
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| 07:38.11 | DAGR8ONE | or should I say 'tear' |
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| 07:58.56 | monsune | hello :) i'm having this totally crazy issue... on my box time is standing still... to be exact it goes from 12.00 CET to 12.01 CET and then it jumps back to 12.00 CET... ntpdate seems to help for just a minute or so and it is back to 12.00 CET again... how do i nail down this crap? and why would it happen at all? |
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| 08:01.47 | teh3ck | hello /var/log/wtmp and btmp aren't in the system by default ? |
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| 08:02.09 | L0aD1nG | Good Morning EveryBody! |
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| 08:03.27 | ChrisH | monsune: ntp not ntpdate might help here.... ntpdate is not the the correct approach |
| 08:04.44 | monsune | ChrisH how should i use ntp to correct this issue? |
| 08:04.58 | ikonia | monsune: are you using ubuntu or debian |
| 08:05.07 | monsune | i'm on debian proxmox |
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| 08:06.14 | monsune | there are quite many ntp processes running which i have no clue about e.g. trivial-rewrite |
| 08:06.23 | frostschutz | monsune, host or vm with the time issue? |
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| 08:06.45 | ikonia | that changes quite a few things as it'a virtual enviornment |
| 08:06.59 | monsune | frostschutz i first noticed that in vm and tried to fix there but then i realised it's a host issue and all vms having the same issue |
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| 08:07.33 | monsune | so vms are just replicating the time on host which seems to be resetting every minute going from 12.00 to 12.01 CET and back |
| 08:07.44 | monsune | this is some crazy stuff |
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| 08:07.58 | monsune | never in my life had such an issue and it started happening just out of the blue |
| 08:08.03 | ikonia | it doesn't seem that crazy |
| 08:08.09 | ikonia | I gave you multiple valid reasons in #ubuntu |
| 08:08.18 | monsune | you gave me just one - a broken hw clock |
| 08:08.20 | DAGR8ONE | I followed this guide https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers to install nvidia drivers for my gfx card.. However I have a slight problem.. I am experieincing tearing when dragging windows and scrolling web pages |
| 08:08.24 | DAGR8ONE | Any ideas what's wrong? |
| 08:08.25 | ikonia | monsune: no, I didn't |
| 08:08.32 | ikonia | monsune: I explained 3 situations that can cause it |
| 08:08.33 | monsune | and i don't really believe in broken hw clock on dedicated high quality box |
| 08:08.45 | ikonia | monsune: yeah, nothing ever fails on high end kit |
| 08:08.52 | ikonia | monsune: nothing is ever miss-configured |
| 08:09.23 | monsune | look it's enough... you never said anything but failing hw clock and this is no help |
| 08:09.32 | ikonia | of course I did |
| 08:09.38 | monsune | like what? |
| 08:09.45 | ikonia | I gave you 3 situations |
| 08:09.47 | teh3ck | "/var/log/wtmp" exists by default in the system? |
| 08:09.48 | ikonia | and they are of help |
| 08:09.51 | ikonia | 1.) the hardware clock is actually failing - a good example of this would be a battery |
| 08:10.04 | ikonia | 2.) the hardware clock is set wrong |
| 08:10.11 | monsune | if it's a failing hw clock then i need to be sure and i need to know how to eliminate this possibility |
| 08:10.13 | ikonia | 3.) there is a fight between the hardware clocks time and your system time |
| 08:10.21 | ikonia | hence the 1 minute reset |
| 08:10.32 | ikonia | 4.) there is a software process updating the clock |
| 08:10.46 | monsune | so 1-3 is all about hw clock |
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| 08:10.53 | ikonia | all different situations though |
| 08:10.53 | monsune | and 4 i checked myself already before i came here |
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| 08:11.00 | ikonia | monsune: how did you check it ? |
| 08:11.06 | monsune | crontab -l and atq |
| 08:11.15 | ikonia | that's just cron |
| 08:11.33 | monsune | just wondering if vm could affect host... perhaps a user is running some crazy shit somewhere |
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| 08:11.48 | monsune | i once read that time can be set for host within vm |
| 08:12.03 | ikonia | have you actually looked at what time the hardware clock says it is ? |
| 08:12.14 | monsune | how do i look at that? |
| 08:12.19 | monsune | it's a remote box |
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| 08:12.47 | monsune | is there a particular command that can read hw clock in bash? |
| 08:12.53 | ikonia | remote box as in your remote box, or a box provided by someone else |
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| 08:13.10 | monsune | it's a dedicated server provider |
| 08:13.21 | DAGR8ONE | #debina-xfce |
| 08:13.45 | ikonia | monsune: so logging a call against them |
| 08:13.50 | ikonia | monsune: also there is a possibility you have been given a "virtual" machine as a dedicated server |
| 08:13.56 | ikonia | it's not uncommon amongst providers |
| 08:14.02 | monsune | man... |
| 08:14.03 | ikonia | running a vm on a vm can cause clock problems |
| 08:14.44 | monsune | and hardware raid is also virtualized there right? together with 2x2TB space and 8-core machine |
| 08:14.50 | monsune | this is enough |
| 08:14.59 | ikonia | monsune: it certainly can be, but it seems unlikley |
| 08:15.13 | monsune | many thanks for your input, i will try somewhere else |
| 08:15.24 | ikonia | monsune: you ask for help, but then try to mock advice given to you |
| 08:15.27 | L0aD1nG | any idea what may cause my rsyslogd process to fail to shut down on time, when i shut down the laptop??? |
| 08:15.32 | monsune | you are no help |
| 08:15.48 | monsune | you just give some crazy scenerios instead of helping |
| 08:15.49 | ikonia | monsune: how am I no help - you have no idea what the problem is and I've given you common causes |
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| 08:15.54 | ikonia | there is nothing crazy about it |
| 08:16.01 | monsune | i have just learned from you that my hw is virtual |
| 08:16.04 | ikonia | they are common realistic issues |
| 08:16.10 | monsune | and yes that is enough |
| 08:16.13 | ikonia | I didn't say your hwardware is vitual - I asked you if it was virtual |
| 08:16.22 | ikonia | as a lot of providers sell dediecaed machines which are actually virtual |
| 08:16.30 | monsune | ok please stop already |
| 08:16.41 | monsune | OVH is not selling virtual machines as dedicated servers |
| 08:16.45 | ikonia | it's a reasonable question to ask when having clock drift |
| 08:16.54 | monsune | especially as i use proxmox there |
| 08:17.04 | ikonia | I asked you to confirm |
| 08:17.08 | ikonia | I didn't say "it's virtual !!!" |
| 08:17.12 | ikonia | it's not an unreasonable question to ask |
| 08:17.13 | monsune | can you imagine a proxmox running in vm and virtualizing like 8 machines? |
| 08:17.16 | monsune | just think man |
| 08:17.24 | monsune | i don't have time for such crpa |
| 08:17.24 | ikonia | what are you on about "just think" |
| 08:17.30 | ikonia | I am thinking, that's why I'm asking you a question to clarify |
| 08:17.48 | monsune | i'm looking for a method of nailing down possible reasons and not to wonder about what is obvious |
| 08:17.54 | monsune | please find another target to play with |
| 08:18.05 | ikonia | monsune: it's not obvious - you have given no hardware information, hence why I simpley asked |
| 08:18.10 | monsune | ignore |
| 08:18.17 | ikonia | and I've also given you 4 common targets to check when you have clock drift |
| 08:19.06 | monsune | if you really wanted to help you would just tell me about hwclock command |
| 08:19.29 | ikonia | thats right, I'm faking trying to help you |
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| 08:19.42 | ikonia | thats why I'm trying to walk through the situation with you |
| 08:19.42 | monsune | and the fucking hw clock is running FINE |
| 08:19.47 | ikonia | how is it running fine |
| 08:19.51 | ikonia | if the clock is drifting |
| 08:19.52 | Skyrider | Can I compile ngx_pagespeed in an already existing nginx installation? |
| 08:19.53 | monsune | that's how you solve problems - instead of creating them |
| 08:19.55 | skilz_ | Anyone know how to use Debian with a Apple Wired Keyboard? |
| 08:19.57 | monsune | you are just a fucking troll |
| 08:20.05 | skilz_ | How do I switch to consoles? |
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| 08:20.17 | babilen | monsune: Please keep it civil in here and be polite |
| 08:20.19 | monsune | now i just need to know how to find out what is causing system date to reset every minute |
| 08:20.21 | ikonia | monsune: you are the one with a problem you are unable to solve, asking for help, then being rude to people |
| 08:20.25 | skilz_ | I can't alt+1 to change irssi channels too |
| 08:20.29 | ikonia | monsune: how is the hardware clock running "fine" |
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| 08:20.42 | monsune | sorry babilen but please see above what that monkey tried to drive me into instead of helping |
| 08:20.45 | ikonia | monsune: is the time in sync with the host OS (not vm OS) |
| 08:20.56 | ikonia | ahh more name calling |
| 08:20.59 | ikonia | excelllent |
| 08:21.12 | babilen | monsune: Stop insulting people. If you are not happy with the help that is being offered you can kindly refuse and try again later with a different person. |
| 08:21.15 | monsune | i was told that my xeon dedicated box is virtual :) that's why my clock is wrong... |
| 08:21.29 | ikonia | monsune: you where not told that |
| 08:21.32 | monsune | i already did but he kept rolling |
| 08:21.33 | ikonia | monsune: I ASKED if it was a vm |
| 08:21.35 | monsune | please see above |
| 08:21.45 | monsune | i had to put him on ignore |
| 08:21.58 | monsune | and yet you jump on me because i used 1 bad word |
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| 08:22.12 | monsune | and how about him? for telling such a nonsense |
| 08:22.40 | monsune | such people are a scum of help channels, just looking for victims to troll them |
| 08:23.01 | babilen | monsune: Let's move on. I simply wanted to make sure that people act responsible and polite in this channel. I made no comment whatsoever regarding the way you were supported. |
| 08:23.04 | L0aD1nG | any idea what may cause my rsyslogd process to fail to shut down on time, when i shut down the laptop??? |
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| 08:24.03 | babilen | *sigh* |
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| 08:24.14 | ikonia | sorry, he appeared to not want any help |
| 08:24.19 | ikonia | but just wanted to have a rant |
| 08:24.31 | babilen | Let's move on and be happy :) |
| 08:24.42 | lpalgarvio | aleluia brother! |
| 08:24.49 | lpalgarvio | hows everyone? |
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| 08:27.07 | skilz | How do I change tty console windows with Apple keyboard? |
| 08:27.41 | skilz | Is there some file I can edit where the key combo is? |
| 08:27.47 | skilz | So I can change it to something else |
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| 08:31.12 | L0aD1nG | babilen : have you got any suggestions, what should i do with the problem i mentioned dude? |
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| 08:31.39 | monsune | you are such a dick... and you can't help with simple stuff... instead you try to ban people who tell the truth about you ikonia... this is so wrong that i will report you to irc operators right now |
| 08:31.50 | monsune | got balls to discuss this? |
| 08:32.01 | monsune | i asked for help and it was enough to teach me about hwclock command |
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| 08:33.30 | Guest902 | and who the fuck are you babilen? i have been hanging around for years and it was never like that in here? who the fuck is babilen and ikonia? |
| 08:33.40 | babilen | Guest902: Play elsewhere |
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| 08:33.47 | Guest902 | just ban away you stupid ass |
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| 08:36.00 | babilen | L0aD1nG: Sorry, I do not really have the time to look into your issue in detail right now. |
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| 08:37.22 | L0aD1nG | babilen : okay man no problem |
| 08:37.41 | L0aD1nG | babilen : what happened here why everyone is fighting each other :S ? |
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| 08:38.33 | babilen | L0aD1nG: Somebody wasn't happy with the help that was being offered and resorted to name calling. But this is not the best place for this discussion (nor do I really want to spend any more time on this) |
| 08:38.38 | fffuuuL | L0aD1nG: they stole eich others juice |
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| 08:40.22 | L0aD1nG | fffuuuL : hahaha...what kind of juice natural or fake? |
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| 08:40.26 | L0aD1nG | babilen : okay |
| 08:40.30 | babilen | L0aD1nG: Before I leave though: It is quite frequently not necessarily rsyslogd that fails to shutdown, but rather related to filesystems you might have mounted (e.g. NFS) that fail to unmount in time. It would definitely help to see the entire process tree that is being complained about before looking into this further. |
| 08:40.56 | fffuuuL | L0aD1nG: we'll never know, one got banned |
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| 08:41.18 | babilen | Could we move on now, please? |
| 08:41.41 | fffuuuL | babilen: Do you know "The lonely island"? |
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| 08:45.39 | lisbeth | hey I am doing a cron job on |
| 08:45.44 | lisbeth | aptitude safe-upgrade |
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| 08:46.03 | lisbeth | and I want an option like --noconfirm so if it asks me "y/n" it always says Y" |
| 08:46.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell lisbeth -about cron-apt |
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| 08:49.31 | L0aD1nG | babilen : i ve seen it like 1000 times and it complain about rsyslogd and tracker it also have some stars ( * ) on them its just that two processes i solve the problem for the other |
| 08:49.37 | L0aD1nG | solved |
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| 08:51.17 | lisbeth | nevermind |
| 08:51.26 | lisbeth | the option is --assume-yes |
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| 08:53.28 | babilen | lisbeth: cron-apt not to your liking? |
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| 08:53.52 | lisbeth | all I am doing is setting up a kiosk for users to log in |
| 08:54.03 | lisbeth | if apt breaks something they'll just hire me to come fix it |
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| 08:55.43 | ochiottes | ChrisH: #ntp agrees that my ISP/carrier is filtering 123/udp. that's why i can't connect to outside servers. thanks for your help, again |
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| 08:55.56 | Luxxi | wtf |
| 08:56.04 | Luxxi | isp filtering ntp? |
| 08:56.18 | ochiottes | it seems so |
| 08:56.32 | Luxxi | get a new isp ^^ |
| 08:56.40 | jbaiter | probably due to the recent ddos attacks |
| 08:56.44 | ochiottes | yep |
| 08:57.23 | babilen | lisbeth: Yes, and a well-maintained and tested setup as provided by cron-apt is not what you are looking for? I am simply trying to understand why you opt to write something yourself if maintained solutions (cron-apt, apticron) exist already. There might be a problem with those projects. |
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| 08:58.54 | lisbeth | I will check out cron-apt |
| 08:58.59 | lisbeth | but for now this will be fine |
| 08:59.09 | L0aD1nG | lisbeth : have you tried adding -y after safe-upgrade or generally upgrade commands? i think that works too |
| 08:59.31 | lisbeth | I have it working how i want, now |
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| 09:38.35 | testingswitch | Can I ask for help here? I just upgraded from stable to testing and my wireless connects to my router, but doesn't connect to internet. Can anyone help? |
| 09:40.03 | paul_grozav | testingswitch: can you print the output of running ifconfig as root ? |
| 09:40.11 | testingswitch | wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:22:fa:59:5d:5a inet addr:192.168.2.3 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::222:faff:fe59:5d5a/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:793 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 |
| 09:40.54 | babilen | testingswitch: testing is, generally speaking, supported in #debian-next if you are looking for a more specific channel |
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| 09:42.06 | babilen | testingswitch: Can you ping, say, 4.2.2.4 or 8.8.8.8 ? |
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| 09:42.36 | babilen | testingswitch: Ah, and #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) |
| 09:43.09 | testingswitch | babilen: 9 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 8055ms |
| 09:43.47 | paul_grozav | testingswitch: can you ping the router ? |
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| 09:44.35 | testingswitch | paul_grozav: Yes. 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms |
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| 09:46.29 | paul_grozav | testingswitch: then please make sure that the router is connected to the internet |
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| 09:46.49 | paul_grozav | testingswitch: do you have another computer that connects to the internet trough the same router ? |
| 09:47.06 | testingswitch | paul_grozav: Yes, I am using my mobile right now. |
| 09:47.23 | testingswitch | paul_grozav: works fine. |
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| 09:48.02 | testingswitch | everything worked fine in stable, proble arose after upgrading to jessie. |
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| 09:49.59 | kargquipsy | Solved my problem on my own meanwhile. When LXC is running in VMware ESXi, then it must be attached to a port group having set to "allow promiscuous mode" obvisouly! :-) |
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| 09:55.20 | paul_grozav | testingswitch: try to set a static IP and gateway in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 09:58.56 | testingswitch | paul_grozav adding "wlan0 auto" helped. It works now. Thanks! |
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| 10:27.56 | Katharsis | how to change right-left mouse with hot key? |
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| 10:34.09 | balor | Where does debconf-get-selections get its information from? I have a dead disk and need to recover my exim4 configuration. |
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| 10:42.29 | TomyWork | I have a single package version and i want to test-run the upgrade process. will a reinstall go through all the right stages? |
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| 10:46.03 | TomyWork | also, should i use insserv or update-rc.d? |
| 10:48.36 | TomyWork | https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot Starting with Debian 6.0, the insserv command is used instead, if dependency-based booting is enabled |
| 10:48.57 | TomyWork | ok, so what happens if it's not enabled? |
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| 10:58.27 | Katharsis | so? |
| 10:58.43 | Katharsis | how to change right-left mouse behavior with hot key? |
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| 11:07.40 | doublehp | how to show IO activity per file (and not per process) ? |
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| 11:11.00 | chickensk | hi. when adding /etc/udev/rules.d do i need to restart the system to make changes work? |
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| 11:16.50 | brontosaurusrex | chickensk, no, but i don't recall how to restart that part |
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| 11:17.20 | doublehp | chickensk: there is a kill signal to send to udev to reload rules ; man udevd |
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| 11:19.28 | Psychon4ut | Hi Guys, I am new to RAIDs and I am following a tutorial, I expecting to get that working. But I dont understand the mknod part in this tutorial: http://blog.gauner.org/blog/2007/09/28/debian-etch-mit-raid-per-debootstrap-auf-rootserver-installieren/ |
| 11:19.30 | chickensk | doublehp thanks, ill try |
| 11:20.01 | Psychon4ut | Isnt it possible to skip this and just use mdadm --create |
| 11:20.22 | Psychon4ut | The tutorial is in german but I think the commands should explain what I am trying to do |
| 11:21.13 | doublehp | Psychon4ut: did not click. If you are using debian, look for debian tutorials. There are also very good tutos on gentoo forums. Mdadm usually don't need mknod with recent udev (less than 7 years). To mention about mknod, your tuto must be *very old* |
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| 11:22.27 | Psychon4ut | ok so you would also suggest to try it without mknod ? |
| 11:22.57 | ChrisH | Psychon4ut: If you are running DEbian Installer in expert mode, installer will do all needeed steps |
| 11:23.14 | Psychon4ut | oh ok its debootsraper installation |
| 11:23.35 | Psychon4ut | from a rescuesystem to a rootserver |
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| 11:23.47 | Psychon4ut | I wont use the provided imanges |
| 11:24.31 | Psychon4ut | however i going to try it, i still got 1 month to migrate :-) |
| 11:24.32 | chickensk | doublehp i used: sudo udevadm control --reload-rules and sudo service udev restart, with no luck |
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| 11:24.55 | doublehp | chickensk: kill -sth udevd |
| 11:25.56 | doublehp | chickensk: why can't you reload the ervice ? after reloading you may need to replug device |
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| 11:37.18 | meek_geek | sup |
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| 11:45.54 | chickensk | doublehp so replugging the device helped after those two commands earlier :] thanks a lot |
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| 11:54.58 | fffuuuL | ey |
| 11:54.59 | fffuuuL | hey |
| 11:55.19 | fffuuuL | anyone knows why firefox shows transparent PNGs in white (transparent part) |
| 11:56.12 | doublehp | because it's a crap software ? |
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| 11:57.27 | fffuuuL | I don't think that is the reason |
| 11:57.40 | debian | hello |
| 11:57.49 | doublehp | fffuuuL: bug in libpng ? |
| 11:58.15 | fffuuuL | doublehp: probably, but why would he debian maintainer not check that |
| 11:58.22 | fffuuuL | Hmmpf |
| 11:58.33 | fffuuuL | I will double check in chrome |
| 11:58.52 | debian_user | how do I create a LVM volume? |
| 11:59.00 | ChrisH | debian_user: man lvcreate |
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| 11:59.33 | fffuuuL | No, chrome shows the PNG just fine |
| 11:59.35 | fffuuuL | Hmmpf |
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| 12:01.05 | fffuuuL | doublehp: okay nvm |
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| 12:01.20 | fffuuuL | it's the view-image: site of firefoxc |
| 12:01.22 | fffuuuL | it |
| 12:01.24 | fffuuuL | 's fucked up |
| 12:01.39 | fffuuuL | just changed the html to something less bad and it shows the png just fine .. |
| 12:02.18 | debian_user | it says /dev/vgroup/lv0: not found: device not cleared |
| 12:03.54 | doublehp | debian_user: google LVM tutorial |
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| 12:04.35 | debian_user | I did |
| 12:04.46 | debian_user | ok, it's just broken on Debian |
| 12:05.03 | debian_user | udev should create some nodes but it does not so zeroing fails |
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| 12:05.31 | debian_user | but you can create with -Z n and leave the garbage in |
| 12:05.57 | debian_user | and then crete nodes with vgmknodes or what |
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| 12:07.50 | michalrus | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24530721/compiling-i386-binaries-on-amd64-debian |
| 12:07.53 | michalrus | Anyone? |
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| 12:08.59 | debian_user | michalrus: you need the i386 libraries |
| 12:09.14 | debian_user | line libX:i386 or whatever |
| 12:09.26 | debian_user | like libx11:i386 or whatever |
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| 12:09.51 | michalrus | debian_user, and what about `locate` claiming I do have them? |
| 12:09.58 | michalrus | m@debian:~$ locate libX11.so |
| 12:09.58 | michalrus | /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 |
| 12:09.59 | michalrus | /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6.3.0 |
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| 12:10.26 | jelly | michalrus: forget it for now, set up an i386 chroot and build stuff inside that |
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| 12:10.46 | jelly | multiarch and building isn't polished at all |
| 12:11.18 | michalrus | jelly, okay. =) Thank you. |
| 12:11.26 | debian_user | you can have -dev for amd64 or i386 but installing for both will probably conflict |
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| 12:12.22 | debian_user | making a chroot gives an impression of full x86 system so is much more reliable, either way |
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| 12:28.39 | Lope | I'm trying to set a custom TTL on a ping, but it doesn't work. ping -t 100 foo.com |
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| 12:30.50 | SchneeSchwarz | Lope: explain "doesn't work". |
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| 12:31.23 | Megaf_ | is that good? http://paste.debian.net/107772/ |
| 12:31.25 | Megaf_ | :) |
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| 12:50.16 | Lope | if I ping my ISP with an interval of 0.2 seconds (as a temporary test) would they get upset and ban me or something? |
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| 12:53.05 | jelly | Lope: ask _them_ |
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| 12:53.53 | babilen | Lope: I would be surprised, but how could we know? |
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| 12:55.15 | Lope | alrighty. I did it now for a minute. nothing bad happened :) |
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| 13:11.37 | skilz | How can I fix this |
| 13:11.40 | skilz | steam-launcher depends on libc6 (>= 2.15); however: |
| 13:11.40 | skilz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:13.18 | centrx | skilz, The most reliable way to use steam is probably to upgrade to testing/jessie. |
| 13:13.19 | Tom01 | that's bad |
| 13:14.00 | Tom01 | I would use testing, yes. |
| 13:14.22 | babilen | (or ask steam to recompile their packages against wheezy as they almost certainly don't use features that are not present in 2.13, but this simply results due to their choice to target Ubuntu) |
| 13:14.40 | babilen | dpkg: tell skilz about steam |
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| 13:15.32 | skilz | How do I search for version 2.15 of libc6? |
| 13:15.38 | skilz | From backports? |
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| 13:16.13 | jelly | skilz: libc6 does not get backports, it's a crucial OS component |
| 13:16.29 | skilz | How do I upgrade to the newer version? |
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| 13:16.41 | skilz | steam-launcher depends on libc6 (>= 2.15); however: |
| 13:16.42 | skilz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:16.46 | babilen | ... |
| 13:16.58 | centrx | Yeah we heard you the first time |
| 13:17.01 | skilz | Also how can I upgrade testing? |
| 13:17.02 | babilen | skilz: You have to upgrade to jessie which is a development release of Debian (testing) right now. |
| 13:17.15 | jelly | skilz: if your only purpose of this installation is to run steam, you'll have to use jessie. Be it in a chroot, or upgrade the whole OS |
| 13:17.18 | babilen | dpkg: tell skilz -about wheezy->jessie |
| 13:17.21 | centrx | skilz, Because steam is closed source your options are limited |
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| 13:17.38 | skilz | I want to upgrade whole OS, so I can use Nvidia driver too |
| 13:17.51 | jelly | or use the OS steam vendor supports -- that is, Ubuntu or their own SteamOS instead of Debian |
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| 13:18.09 | babilen | skilz: Please note that tracking testing will be *much* more involved than tracking stable and that you should read the <sid faq> and familiarise yourself with the packaging system (maintainer scripts and lifecycle at least). |
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| 13:18.21 | trewas | didn't they fix steam to depend on some lower libc version? at least here (in ubuntu though) it says "libc6 (>= 2.12)" |
| 13:18.39 | skilz | ok cool |
| 13:18.50 | babilen | skilz: My recommendation would, however, be to use Ubuntu which is supported for steam and which also has just released a fairly recent 14.04 LTS version. |
| 13:19.31 | skilz | But I hate not building my system... Like at least with Debian I can do minimal net install, then install x then fluebox and what I need |
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| 13:19.43 | skilz | Instead of having like 5gb of shit I'll never touch |
| 13:20.08 | skilz | I hate unity and gnome/kde |
| 13:20.12 | Walex | skilz: you can do the same with Ubuntu. |
| 13:20.21 | skilz | Oh really? :) |
| 13:20.27 | babilen | skilz: Well, feel free to track testing (I'd recommend <tum> however), but be aware of its idiosyncrasies |
| 13:21.03 | ukus | hi guys, quick question: I'm trying to install Debian 7 on an old iMac(2007) and both the GRUB and the/or the LILO fail on the installation process. I can't find any work-around online. Does anybody have any suggestions about how I can install it, or maybe a link/tutorial that works ? Thanks much. |
| 13:21.32 | babilen | skilz: The intersection between the two sets of "users who want to run steam" and "users who aren't familiar enough with Debian to track testing/unstable" is rather large. |
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| 13:23.47 | Walex | skilz: anyhow consider this page I wrote: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/14-one.html#140317 |
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| 13:26.07 | skilz | How can I reverse engineer the protocal steam chat uses so I can use it with XMPP? |
| 13:26.29 | skilz | Something to 'trick' the Steam server to think I am a proper Steam program. |
| 13:26.55 | skilz | That way I can talk to my Steam friends on Pidgin with XMPP |
| 13:27.19 | babilen | skilz: I am under the impression that you are, in fact, not so much looking for #debian, but rather #steamlug |
| 13:27.37 | skilz | Thanks |
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| 13:36.30 | skilz | Where do pigin plugins install to? |
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| 13:41.29 | movrax | skilz, /usr/lib/pidgin |
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| 13:46.27 | babilen | movrax: plugins you install as a user? I would have expected something in, say, ~/.config |
| 13:48.21 | babilen | But then pidgin is quite old and still uses ~/.purple |
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| 13:51.02 | movrax | babilen: yes, it's ~/.purple/plugins for local plugins I think |
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| 13:51.51 | movrax | https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins#UnixLinux |
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| 14:05.47 | viccuad | hi, has anyone had dependency problems with libgdbm3 on testing in the last days, due an update? thanks in advance |
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| 14:11.06 | asterismo | hi people |
| 14:11.14 | asterismo | i'm in my new custom kernel |
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| 14:11.21 | asterismo | i have some questions |
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| 14:11.42 | asterismo | is there anyway to get rid of the useless modules and kernel support for hardware i do not have? |
| 14:11.54 | asterismo | like in lsmod... i see a los of stuff |
| 14:11.59 | asterismo | lot of stuff |
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| 14:12.26 | theclockknowsall | Hi |
| 14:12.29 | Brigo | asterismo, from disk or from ram? |
| 14:12.41 | asterismo | for speed |
| 14:12.50 | theclockknowsall | how can I create a debian based distro installer? |
| 14:13.08 | asterismo | i have 16GB of RAM and AMD FX 8120 8-core CPU |
| 14:13.10 | theclockknowsall | I want to make my own debian-installer for a new debian based distro. |
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| 14:13.24 | Brigo | asterismo, if from ram you can blaclist modules |
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| 14:13.42 | asterismo | Brigo: i comiled the kernel using CFLAGS -O3 and -march=bdver1 |
| 14:14.03 | asterismo | Brigo: i also want to check some timing settings in the kernel |
| 14:14.12 | Brigo | asterismo, if from disk you have to recompile the kernel without the undesidered modules |
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| 14:14.13 | asterismo | what are there for? audio recording? |
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| 14:15.04 | asterismo | Brigo: i'm using xconfig to do the kernel config file |
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| 14:15.23 | asterismo | i noticed that some parameters are checked by dots and others bu a tic |
| 14:15.26 | babilen | asterismo: Modules that do not apply to your hardware won't be loaded automatically. You might want to consider setting "MODULES=dep" in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf, but that would mean that the system won't boot if you run it on different hardware. |
| 14:15.28 | asterismo | what's the difference? |
| 14:16.07 | asterismo | I wont run this system in different hardware |
| 14:16.10 | babilen | asterismo: There is, IMHO, also little to be gained by compiling your own kernel and my recommendation would be to simply use the stock kernels. |
| 14:16.34 | nkuttler | theclockknowsall: oh.. we don't support random distros, but see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
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| 14:16.52 | asterismo | babilen: well, it a way to get running kernel 3.12 in Debian Wheezy 7 |
| 14:16.54 | asterismo | right? |
| 14:17.02 | asterismo | without installing Sid |
| 14:17.09 | asterismo | or unstable debians |
| 14:17.22 | nkuttler | asterismo: you can always just get sources from kernel.org |
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| 14:17.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell asterismo -about bdo kernel |
| 14:17.44 | babilen | judd: kernels |
| 14:17.47 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.15-trunk-686-pae (3.15.1-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.9-1); jessie: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.7-1); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.14.7-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 14:17.58 | babilen | asterismo: That will get you 3.14 though (if that is acceptable) |
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| 14:18.33 | asterismo | babilen: thanks |
| 14:18.41 | babilen | Have fun |
| 14:18.53 | babilen | Anything else we can help you with? |
| 14:19.01 | asterismo | is there anyway to get more performance by recompiling the kernel? timing settings, cut down modules... etc?? |
| 14:19.26 | rozie | you won't notice the difference |
| 14:19.32 | babilen | Sure, but I doubt that you would notice it |
| 14:19.47 | babilen | asterismo: The amd64 kernel should be fine for your processor. |
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| 14:20.03 | asterismo | i need to run i386 kernel in this system |
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| 14:20.17 | babilen | How come? |
| 14:20.24 | rozie | at least in speed, size difference is visible, but 100MB this or that way in modern system does not make any difference |
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| 14:20.31 | asterismo | i noticed that when configuring the kernel, the pre-selected architecture is Pentium-pro |
| 14:21.10 | asterismo | is there anyway to configure the correct architecture in the config? I see plenty of AMD processors, Intel... but not my architecture |
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| 14:21.38 | rozie | asterismo: stick to kernel from distribution for now. you'll be happy |
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| 14:22.03 | babilen | asterismo: This is rather supported in ##linux, btw .. but why can't you run amd64? And then: What timing critical infrastructure will run on this system? |
| 14:22.13 | wh0ami | any idea how to fix local_Rb_tree_increment (__x=0x2061736e65666544) at ../../../../../src/libstdc++-v3/src/c++98/tree.cc:65 ? (i've spotted in a gdb crashlog) |
| 14:22.54 | asterismo | i need to run a specific software that has a bad 64-bit support |
| 14:23.00 | asterismo | so i run 32bits system |
| 14:23.03 | jelly | asterismo: that CPU supports AMD64 instructions and -amd64 will work. What is your actual goal? |
| 14:23.09 | rozie | asterismo: you can have multiarch debian |
| 14:23.43 | rozie | dpkg: tell asterismo -about multiarch |
| 14:23.45 | asterismo | there is a GCC flag to compile according to the CPU architecture |
| 14:23.47 | jelly | asterismo: it is easy and simple to run 32-bit userspace and a 64bit kernel. In fact, 32bit debian repos already have 64bit kernels just for that. |
| 14:23.55 | asterismo | Atom, Prescott, AMD k6 |
| 14:23.57 | asterismo | etc |
| 14:23.59 | asterismo | etc |
| 14:24.17 | asterismo | and there is bdver1 which is the bulldozer architecture of my CPU |
| 14:24.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell asterismo -about multiarch |
| 14:24.25 | asterismo | i cannot see that in the kernel config |
| 14:24.38 | jelly | asterismo: which specific software is this? |
| 14:24.54 | babilen | dpkg: I would recommend to install an amd64 system and install whatever i386 packages you need with multiarch. |
| 14:24.55 | dpkg | babilen: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 14:25.01 | babilen | asterismo: ^^^ |
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| 14:25.28 | jelly | I would recommend installing an i386 system and whatever amd64 packages _if_ needed with multiarch, instead :-> |
| 14:25.38 | babilen | heh |
| 14:25.38 | jelly | and an amd64 kernel. |
| 14:26.00 | jelly | judd: versions linux-image-amd64 --arch i386 |
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| 14:26.00 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.14+57~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.14+57; sid: 3.14+57 |
| 14:26.02 | rozie | jelly: why this way? |
| 14:26.22 | jelly | rozie: because it's less painful for some things. |
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| 14:26.44 | babilen | I haven't had a problem with that in years, but YMMV |
| 14:27.12 | jelly | me neither, I have last tried amd64 userspace in 2012 |
| 14:27.17 | jelly | it still sucked |
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| 14:27.40 | rozie | does tcpdump/tshark work well on i386 system with amd64 kernel? Not sure it this was the issue, but had some problems with that(?) |
| 14:27.44 | rozie | long time ago |
| 14:27.47 | babilen | Any particular problems? |
| 14:27.50 | jelly | namely: 32bit wine sucked; flash sucked |
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| 14:28.08 | jelly | rozie: yes. |
| 14:28.18 | rozie | I use amd64 since a few years. works OK. |
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| 14:28.33 | rozie | no problems with flash |
| 14:28.34 | babilen | jelly: Flash is working fine and I couldn't care less about wine even if I wanted to so I can't comment on that. |
| 14:28.43 | rozie | wine is 32bit only in debian |
| 14:28.45 | Almtesh | Howdi! |
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| 14:29.11 | jelly | steam used to suck but I hear they fixed it since, and there are lots of games built 64-bit natively |
| 14:29.46 | Almtesh | jelly, they are not all 64-bits only. |
| 14:29.48 | jelly | most humble bundle stuff also has 64bit builds |
| 14:29.56 | babilen | I also don't play games nor use steam ... So it essentially boils down to: It depends what you plan to use your system for |
| 14:29.58 | asterismo | it's a simple question |
| 14:29.59 | Almtesh | jelly, some can be used in 32-bits too. |
| 14:30.16 | babilen | asterismo: ##linux for support with that |
| 14:30.23 | babilen | (I thought I mentioned that before) |
| 14:30.35 | asterismo | what architecture in menuconfig should i set for a AMD FX 8120 8 core CPU bulldozer, zambezi architecture |
| 14:30.41 | asterismo | ok |
| 14:30.48 | Almtesh | jelly, your 64-bits processor can execute 32-bits programs, if you use X86 architecture, for the other, I don't know. |
| 14:30.49 | jelly | maybe even ##kernel |
| 14:31.01 | jelly | Almtesh: I know. I use it that way. |
| 14:31.10 | jelly | Almtesh: see above. |
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| 14:32.17 | Almtesh | jelly, if you want, you have a repository for wine. |
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| 14:32.43 | jelly | Almtesh: why? i386 works |
| 14:32.47 | navwey | hello |
| 14:33.00 | Almtesh | jelly, OK. |
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| 14:33.26 | jelly | Almtesh: I like stuff that works with minimum fussing. |
| 14:33.28 | navwey | need soruce.list file to download have deleted |
| 14:33.37 | navwey | anyone |
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| 14:33.59 | kencausey | Is there a solution/workaround to the libgdbm3 situation in unstable/testing? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=752465 |
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| 14:34.51 | navwey | wake up |
| 14:35.10 | babilen | dpkg: tell navwey -about wheezy sources.list |
| 14:35.20 | navwey | send soruce.list file |
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| 14:35.55 | navwey | root@debian-july2014:~# sudo apt-get update E: Type '' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read. |
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| 14:36.29 | navwey | i need file of source.list |
| 14:36.54 | Shadow_7 | it is quite google-able. |
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| 14:37.26 | babilen | navwey: Read the message our bot just sent you |
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| 14:38.59 | navwey | ok i did not understand it |
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| 14:40.47 | navwey | yes their any way to download soruce.list file |
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| 14:41.37 | mtn | navwey: simply type it in, very easy |
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| 14:42.16 | kriskropd | is there a command to list all install packages chronologically? |
| 14:42.23 | kriskropd | i know of dpkg -l |
| 14:43.31 | jmcnaught | navwey: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList this might be easier to understand. Read the whole page. |
| 14:43.35 | Shadow_7 | kriskropd: if you kept the .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ you could sort on date/timestamp of the downloads. |
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| 14:44.28 | haole | does anyone have any suggestions about preparing a workstation to do builds in other machines in a transpartent way, i.e. like if the compilations were local? I have a couple of ideas but would like to hear what others think |
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| 14:45.17 | Shadow_7 | haole: in other machines? distcc? or FOR other machines? |
| 14:45.25 | jmcnaught | kriskropd: you might also be interested in /var/log/apt/history.log (and its rotated files) |
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| 14:46.24 | navwey | please do not mind i did not install any text editor or its damage file when i edit it , so any link for source.list file to be download |
| 14:47.15 | haole | Shadow_7: IN other machines, but the current development team are all sharing the same VM, so I don't know if using distcc will suffice to get the exact builds (it's pretty cumbersome, hence the question) |
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| 14:47.22 | Shadow_7 | navwey: nano is normally installed (or vi) by default. And there's a few echo >> tricks for text editing. |
| 14:47.31 | haole | I want to use this VM but without having to DEVELOP in it |
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| 14:48.28 | jmcnaught | navwey: you probably still have "nano" at least |
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| 14:49.22 | kriskropd | Shadow_7 jmcnaught : thanks :) |
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| 14:49.35 | Shadow_7 | haole: so you want some sort of mirror to offload the compiles? |
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| 14:52.38 | skilz | Hey Im trying to use Skype but in Sound devices it says 'Virtual Device' and doesn't show my mixer |
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| 14:52.46 | haole | Shadow_7: yes! one of my ideas is to mount a NFS share in the build machine |
| 14:52.52 | haole | but maybe there are better ways of doing this |
| 14:52.53 | skilz | So I can't send/receive any audio |
| 14:52.58 | haole | (and sending the compile command through ssh) |
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| 14:54.51 | Shadow_7 | skilz: are you using pulseaudio? |
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| 14:55.25 | skilz | Nope |
| 14:55.26 | skilz | alsa |
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| 14:55.32 | skilz | alsamixer |
| 14:55.56 | Shadow_7 | skype tends to play better with pulseaudio. As in your mic doesn't need to be the first input port, etc... |
| 14:56.24 | skilz | Ok how do I change to pulseaudio? |
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| 14:57.19 | Shadow_7 | install it and start it at the user level would be a start --- $ pulseaudio --start |
| 14:57.39 | Shadow_7 | pavucontrol probably helps for setting up which card(s) to use |
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| 14:58.08 | IonCannon218 | hi, is there a way to identify if a device failed or something abnormal happened |
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| 14:58.15 | skilz | Do I have to do anything about alsa? |
| 14:58.39 | IonCannon218 | last night, when some large gits was checking out, the hard drive seems to have just disappeared from the system |
| 14:58.41 | Shadow_7 | skilz: you'll probably need a pulse variant of the ~/.asoundrc file |
| 14:59.10 | IonCannon218 | nevermind, SMART selftest just came as failed |
| 14:59.35 | Shadow_7 | was it the same time that m$ shutdown noip.com ? |
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| 15:02.06 | skilz | How do I use the volume manager for pulseaudio? |
| 15:02.09 | skilz | Whats it called? |
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| 15:02.23 | Shadow_7 | skilz: pavucontrol lets you adjust levels |
| 15:03.04 | Shadow_7 | skilz: otherwise it's still a layer on top of alsa, so alsamixer and friends still work |
| 15:03.04 | zsero | hi, I would like to ask about apt-pinning / preferences. How can I specify the priorities only for one specific repo? |
| 15:03.09 | skilz | Will everything use pulseaudio now? |
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| 15:04.14 | Shadow_7 | skilz: by default, probably. You can add autospawn = no to /etc/pulse/client.conf and use $ pulseaudio --kill to stop using pulse |
| 15:04.25 | Shadow_7 | skilz: without having to uninstall it |
| 15:04.35 | zsero | this is the contents of a list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d |
| 15:04.35 | zsero | http://bpaste.net/show/WAYn7drTaYCcbIIZ3Ms6/ |
| 15:05.09 | zsero | how can I have frodo priority over contrib? |
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| 15:06.43 | Shadow_7 | skilz: and other ways to suspend it or use it as a layer on top of jackd |
| 15:07.03 | jmcnaught | zsero: you should get support in a raspbian channel. Only Debian is supported here. |
| 15:07.20 | zsero | it has nothing to do with raspbian |
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| 15:07.29 | zsero | I only want to ask about apt-pinning |
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| 15:08.05 | zsero | I’d like to set the preferences for one specific list |
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| 15:10.44 | xzgv | hi, how do i start xterm in workspace 2? I put this in my .xinitrc: xterm workspace: 2 & -- no joy |
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| 15:15.19 | skilz | Is there any experience with using a xbox 360 controller with attached headset for a mic and headset? |
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| 15:20.52 | debian_user | is there some way to use disks more intelligently? |
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| 15:21.26 | debian_user | my disks invariably die because the part of surface that contains the journal wears out |
| 15:21.56 | Cpuroast | ssds? |
| 15:22.04 | Shadow_7 | ext2 without a journal is better at wear leveling |
| 15:22.15 | Shadow_7 | but a real time suck when you have to fsck it |
| 15:22.44 | Cpuroast | I don't see why journal data would be any different |
| 15:22.45 | debian_user | I guess you could say that a temporary solution until cheap enough and large enough SSDs are available is to buy a new disk |
| 15:22.48 | Cpuroast | as far as an SSD is concerned |
| 15:23.02 | ChrisH | debian_user: use mirrored disks and replace a failed one. Disk are still replacment parts. |
| 15:23.08 | Shadow_7 | You can create journals on other devices iirc. |
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| 15:23.21 | debian_user | hmm, external journal |
| 15:23.40 | Cpuroast | the SSD's controller takes care of wear leveling accross the entire drive |
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| 15:24.00 | debian_user | and sure, SSDs have wear levelling so they don't suffer from this problem |
| 15:24.04 | Cpuroast | so the journal area doesn't get written in the same spot |
| 15:24.25 | Cpuroast | this is a USB key?? |
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| 15:25.09 | asterismo | hey, i have a dumb questino |
| 15:25.12 | asterismo | questino |
| 15:25.16 | asterismo | question |
| 15:25.20 | debian_user | Cpuroast: I roasted a few spinning rust based disks in my linux box already |
| 15:25.20 | Shadow_7 | SSDs also have a number of writes fail number that is cringe worthy if you development style stuff. |
| 15:25.40 | asterismo | what is the deal with the NSA SELinux support option in the kernel? |
| 15:25.58 | Cpuroast | debian_user: no issues re-writing magnetic sectors |
| 15:25.58 | asterismo | that freaked me out |
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| 15:26.25 | Cpuroast | debian_user: HDDs don't have the same finite write operations SSDs do |
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| 15:26.46 | Shadow_7 | asterismo: it's for access control lists type stuff. And open sourced so not as cringe worthy as it sounds on the surface. But equally annoying. |
| 15:26.54 | debian_user | Cpuroast: no, they don;t have known projected number of rewrites bu they sure do wear out |
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| 15:27.42 | DacFarren | Hey... is there a way to install seamonkey on debian |
| 15:27.48 | DacFarren | since iceape is no more... |
| 15:27.49 | debian_user | and the disks inveriably developing bad sectors in the area of ext journal or Windows registry kind of supports that |
| 15:27.54 | Cpuroast | debian_user: the mechanics wear out |
| 15:28.16 | Cpuroast | and all modern HDDs have a bunch of spare area for sector re-allocation |
| 15:28.24 | Shadow_7 | depends on the brand and usage. And environment. Still using all my HDDs from 5+ years ago. My last failed one was a maxtor 30G. Aside from the micro ones they shove in laptops with poor ventilation. |
| 15:28.43 | debian_user | yes, and eventually the spare sectors run out |
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| 15:28.53 | Cpuroast | that takes time :) |
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| 15:29.07 | Cpuroast | there are probably 10s of thousands of spare sectors |
| 15:29.08 | debian_user | yes, the disk usually lasts afe w years |
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| 15:29.38 | Cpuroast | highest I've seen is around ~365 sector reallocations |
| 15:29.46 | Cpuroast | and the rest of the disk is perfect |
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| 15:29.56 | Shadow_7 | laptop ones in a laptop tend to die after a year or two. Spinning ones anyway. |
| 15:30.02 | debian_user | I have 1420 and the drive refuses to write anymore |
| 15:30.06 | asterismo | Shadow_7: hope somebody chech that code for me |
| 15:30.14 | frostschutz | I replace disks when reallocated sectors goes to 1 |
| 15:30.23 | Cpuroast | debian_user: pretty bad drive |
| 15:30.24 | Shadow_7 | asterismo: you can turn it off |
| 15:30.39 | Cpuroast | frostschutz: that's probably a bit excessive |
| 15:30.47 | Cpuroast | no drive surface is perfect |
| 15:31.00 | ChrisH | frostschutz: well done :) If a disk shows reallocated sectors, the spare pool is empty. |
| 15:31.01 | Cpuroast | and that's the point of the spare area |
| 15:31.31 | Cpuroast | ChrisH: as far as I know, no |
| 15:31.47 | debian_user | it's reasonably good from the factory so you can write all of it but it wears out |
| 15:31.48 | ChrisH | Cpuroast: and as long as the spare sectors jump in, you will not see any reallocated stuff |
| 15:31.55 | Cpuroast | 1 reallocated sector, just means, it consumed one of the spare sectors |
| 15:32.10 | frostschutz | ChrisH, nonsense |
| 15:32.28 | debian_user | ChrisH: you can see reallocated sectors in the drive diagnostics before you experience any iisues except marginal slowdown |
| 15:33.01 | Cpuroast | reallocated sectors are how often the drive had to dip into the spare sector pool |
| 15:33.08 | Shadow_7 | I don't like the spare sectors of SSDs by conception, that's potentially sensitive data that you can no longer erase. |
| 15:33.32 | debian_user | there is 'secure erase'feature |
| 15:33.48 | frostschutz | Cpuroast, I have a raid5, it's kinda bad if you have more than one broken disk in there. You can still use the reallocated sector disks for uncritical data (like the tv recorder or backup's backup or whatever) |
| 15:33.52 | debian_user | not that I would trust that much but at least they are trying to address that |
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| 15:34.24 | colonolGron | how can i find out which package installed a certain file? in my case "/usr/share/backgrounds/gnome/Blinds.jpg" i suppose gnome of course, but i would like to know the package |
| 15:34.38 | debian_user | dpkg -S file |
| 15:34.38 | dpkg | Package: file: Status: install ok installed |
| 15:34.45 | Shadow_7 | colonolGron: apt-file find <filename> |
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| 15:35.39 | ChrisH | Agreed. looks like my memory mixes up reallocated sectors and bad sectors. |
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| 15:37.08 | colonolGron | thanks debian_user :) |
| 15:37.09 | Rug | I feel really stupid asking this question. I have 200+ user accounts I need to delete from a server. Can I just delete them from /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow or do I have to run the 'deluser' command? |
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| 15:38.06 | Cpuroast | frostschutz: as long as you run a scheduled scrub |
| 15:38.07 | Shadow_7 | probably better to use deluser, they're likely in /etc/group and other files |
| 15:38.11 | Cpuroast | and scheduled smart tests |
| 15:38.25 | Cpuroast | you would be fine with re-allocated sectors |
| 15:38.51 | Cpuroast | dumping a drive out after only 1 re-allocated sector is somewhat paranoid |
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| 15:40.41 | Cpuroast | Shadow_7: it's the only real way to ensure data integrity and reliable performance |
| 15:41.07 | Cpuroast | as far as I know, the SSD controller marks the original block from a re-allocated block as dead |
| 15:41.12 | Cpuroast | and will never access it ever again |
| 15:41.44 | frostschutz | Cpuroast, I have scrubs and smart tests, thank you. And I disagree with you - reallocated sectors are trouble. Esp. when they start out as pending sectors which can no longer be read, and are only reallocated when written to. In this case your disk already lost data. |
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| 15:42.37 | Shadow_7 | Cpuroast: but it's still physically there and not completely dead and can be modified to be used by other hardware, or updated firmware. Like taking platers off of failed HDDs |
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| 15:44.02 | Cpuroast | Shadow_7: who knows, maybe in the firmware, it tries a wipe of the initial dead sector after reallocation is complete |
| 15:44.15 | Cpuroast | but that's up to each SSD controller maker |
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| 15:44.34 | Shadow_7 | maybe is not an acceptable security practice. |
| 15:45.10 | Cpuroast | Shadow_7: then you rely on full drive encryption |
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| 15:45.53 | Shadow_7 | Cpuroast: or a wood chipper and crematorium |
| 15:45.59 | Cpuroast | sure :) |
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| 15:48.12 | frostschutz | or shred -n 1 (or -n 2 if paranoid)... at least with that at least $CAPACITY data is gone, leaves the 5%ish? reserve, and chances are good the ssd will have erased that for performance reasons. it's good enough if you can't afford to melt it down :D |
| 15:48.35 | frostschutz | you can still follow it up with a secure erase in the hopes that it's actually done properly |
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| 15:50.55 | d3lxa | how would you prevent zsh from exiting when bg are still running? I can do ^D it warns then twice it quits :( |
| 15:51.28 | jelly | d3lxa: you told it to quit twice, what's the use case here? |
| 15:51.42 | frostschutz | d3lxa, unless zsh has a setting for that you're probably out of luck. I think that's how most shells behave |
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| 15:51.58 | debian_user | maybe you want to look into tmux or screen |
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| 15:52.07 | debian_user | so you do not need to quit shells |
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| 15:52.20 | d3lxa | debian_user: it kills the zsh in the tmux, too bad |
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| 15:52.36 | d3lxa | jelly: use case: never loose vim or other jobs you had in bg |
| 15:52.53 | debian_user | but why do you quit the shell? |
| 15:53.16 | jelly | d3lxa: use screen and don't put editors in background. vim saves changes into a swp file anyway |
| 15:53.17 | debian_user | in tmux you can leave it running so you work around losing jobs on quitting it |
| 15:53.24 | d3lxa | sometimes I may try to quit the wrong terminal or just want to close it but don't want to lose the jobs inside it |
| 15:53.37 | jelly | d3lxa: so HEED the warning |
| 15:54.04 | jelly | that's what it's there for. "You have jobs running, are you sure?" |
| 15:54.18 | d3lxa | jelly: yeah but it happened to me multiple times, I did ^D once, then come back after a while (few hours), did ^D again and poof closed accidentely, |
| 15:54.35 | debian_user | I used to have that problem too |
| 15:54.40 | jelly | "doctor, it hurts when I do this" |
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| 15:54.51 | debian_user | with tmux I close the terminal and then just open another one and reattach |
| 15:54.58 | jelly | d3lxa: don't do that, then |
| 15:54.58 | debian_user | even from different place |
| 15:55.05 | debian_user | jobs still there |
| 15:55.05 | d3lxa | I thought I could put a callback for the ^D or have a setting, something |
| 15:55.20 | cleopatra__ | Hey how do i get deb packages running on WindowsXP? |
| 15:55.26 | debian_user | actually, there is a callback in some shells, yes |
| 15:55.35 | jelly | d3lxa: you can change or unset tty eof value (what ^D generates) with stty command |
| 15:55.52 | d3lxa | jelly: I know it sounds dumb but I don't like I cannot help myself with customizing my shell |
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| 15:56.19 | debian_user | cleopatra__: you instal virtualbox, install Linux inside, install deb packages ;-) |
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| 15:56.50 | cleopatra__ | debian_user: ahh |
| 15:56.52 | debian_user | and you get hacked because XP has no updates anymore :p |
| 15:57.06 | d3lxa | jelly: so I would use an other value, bind it somehow and decide to do a real eof or not |
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| 16:00.04 | debian_user | d3lxa: it's possible to customize. It may have options you can abuse for that, you may patch it if not. But screen/tmux is a solution that solves this problem and some more so that's what people are familiar with |
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| 16:00.42 | d3lxa | debian_user: it doesn't solve the ^D problem, so what's your workflow? you changed it right? |
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| 16:02.17 | debian_user | with screen you do not need to quit your shells so you do not have that ^D problem |
| 16:02.31 | debian_user | with the added bonus you can see them from other locations too |
| 16:03.03 | debian_user | quitting my shells is something I do when I need to reboot |
| 16:03.13 | debian_user | once in a blue moon occasion :p |
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| 16:03.39 | chenchacha | Hello, My wifi work well in gnome, but in console, the wlan0 work off and on.(I use wpa_supplicant and dhclient in console) |
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| 16:04.22 | debian_user | chenchacha: and what do you use in gnome? network-manager? |
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| 16:04.50 | psimon | chenchacha: what do you mean under work off and on? |
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| 16:04.55 | psimon | BTW hello everyone |
| 16:05.03 | d3lxa | debian_user: aren't you using tmux nowadays? screen is old and buggy :) |
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| 16:05.21 | Shadow_7 | probably dies when the lease expires. You have to keep dhclient running to renew them. |
| 16:05.29 | debian_user | they are pretty much equivalent |
| 16:05.42 | mms_ | I installed network-manager-vpnc but still after network-manager restart I do not see VPN option in menu. |
| 16:05.49 | debian_user | the reason to have both screen and tmux is license religion |
| 16:05.55 | debian_user | BSD vs GNU |
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| 16:06.01 | psimon | d3lxa: guess he meant pure console (tty) |
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| 16:07.11 | Shadow_7 | pure console has it's perks. Compiled my RPi kernel in 9 hours versus the 22 hours the guide suggested. |
| 16:07.13 | chenchacha | psimon:it work some time,and broken down |
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| 16:07.51 | chenchacha | debian_user: gnome will auto connect |
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| 16:09.17 | chenchacha | My shell command:wpa_supplicant -B Dwext -iwlan0 -c xxx.cfg \n dhclient wlan0 |
| 16:10.03 | chenchacha | the wifi will work a while. |
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| 16:12.30 | psimon | chenchacha: do you start networkmanager on runlevel 2 as well? |
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| 16:13.51 | chenchacha | it not start by boot? |
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| 16:29.05 | chenchacha | I have a network-manage service, it working already |
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| 16:30.41 | Bombo | hi |
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| 16:32.25 | chenchacha | hello |
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| 16:33.30 | chenchacha | nmcli show me the wifi is connect, but i can't ping |
| 16:34.58 | skilz | How do I switch from X to console with Apple wired numeric keyboard? |
| 16:35.03 | Bombo | is there an archive of the debian-user mailing list accessable via NNTP? i hate to browse in html |
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| 16:36.27 | mms_ | after installing vpnc nm is still not showing any vpn menu |
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| 16:36.53 | skilz | Is there some file I can edit to set what key combos I want to use for stuff? |
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| 16:37.05 | chenchacha | Bombo: I use mail client |
| 16:37.27 | Bombo | chenchacha: how? |
| 16:37.58 | Bombo | chenchacha: (which) |
| 16:38.00 | chenchacha | Bombo： I use thunderbird |
| 16:38.48 | chenchacha | Bombo: it's automation in X |
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| 16:40.31 | Bombo | chenchacha: how do i add the debian-user archive there? |
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| 16:42.00 | chenchacha | It's not the automation ? |
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| 16:43.02 | mms_ | i have also installed vpnc-gnome |
| 16:43.14 | mms_ | but still not seeing the vpn menu |
| 16:43.20 | chenchacha | new->add account ... all of the mail client is together |
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| 16:48.01 | IonCannon218 | already backed up /home. should i back up / also? failing drive.. |
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| 16:49.06 | mtn | IonCannon218: I wouldn't, but your needs may be different than mine |
| 16:49.34 | IonCannon218 | hm probably best if i dont, most likely will just replace laptop anyway |
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| 16:50.24 | Bombo | chenchacha: do i need a new account for the debian-user mailing list? |
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| 16:50.53 | IonCannon218 | whats a good way to make a list of currently installed packages |
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| 16:51.30 | chenchacha | Bombo: your own email account |
| 16:52.00 | chenchacha | Bombo: the current |
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| 16:52.46 | Bombo | chenchacha: yes i got my account in thunderbird |
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| 16:53.59 | chenchacha | Bombo: ok ,you can leave html web mail. |
| 16:54.06 | skilz | There is a -novtswitch switch to X11, but it appear that is not enabled. |
| 16:54.12 | skilz | How do I enable it? |
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| 16:57.32 | karlpinc | skilz: Probably depends on which display manager you're using. The *dm tends to be what starts X. |
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| 16:57.54 | skilz | Ok thanks |
| 16:58.01 | Bombo | chenchacha: i still don't see the debian-user mailing list |
| 16:58.06 | skilz | Also, how do I fix console font/framebuffer? |
| 16:58.26 | skilz | It was nice and small, but I messed about with some video drivers now it is big and ugly |
| 16:58.37 | skilz | Using nouveau |
| 16:58.44 | karlpinc | skilz: Ooh. I hate that question. I like it big and ugly myself. |
| 16:59.10 | skilz | It was when I tried to use Nvidia proprietry drive and rebooted thats when it was big, so I went back to nouveau but it's still big |
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| 16:59.35 | karlpinc | skilz: Perhaps "man console-setup". |
| 17:00.05 | skilz | Is it something in the kernel boot options I have to check? |
| 17:00.12 | skilz | Where is the kernel boot option file? |
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| 17:00.22 | skilz | fb=false" (d-i) or "video=vga16:off" (kernel) boot options |
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| 17:00.51 | karlpinc | skilz: What boot loader are you using? |
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| 17:01.38 | karlpinc | skilz: Probably /etc/default/grub. But then run update-grub. |
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| 17:02.27 | ln_ | I have a cifs mount in fstab, whenever I reboot rsyslogd hangs very long. What can I do? |
| 17:02.28 | chenchacha | Bombo: the thunderbird left top is a bottom:get mail |
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| 17:02.33 | skilz | Yes grub |
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| 17:03.07 | karlpinc | ln_: Change it to noauto and mount it manually -- or in /etc/rc.local if you want something semi-automatic. |
| 17:03.32 | chenchacha | wa nmcli is strong than wps_supplicant + dhclient |
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| 17:03.56 | skilz | #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 |
| 17:04.00 | ln_ | karlpinc, is there no otherway like auto umount on shutdown before rsyslogd wants to stop or something? |
| 17:04.06 | skilz | Can I uncomment and change that to something like 800x600? |
| 17:04.11 | skilz | Or will that break grub? |
| 17:04.21 | s00pcan | wa nmcli? |
| 17:04.54 | tremon | ski_: it shouldn't break it |
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| 17:05.05 | karlpinc | skilz: That's probably the grub boot screen. You want (?) to pass parameters to the kernel. |
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| 17:05.18 | chenchacha | nmcli is network-manager |
| 17:05.35 | karlpinc | ln_: Shouldn't rsyslogd stop before the disks are unmounted? |
| 17:06.22 | Bombo | chenchacha: ok, but how do i access the debian-user mailing list archive? |
| 17:06.53 | karlpinc | Bombo: I always like using marc.info for archives. |
| 17:06.57 | ln_ | karlpinc, yes but can I tell my debian system to umount the cifs share first and then proceed with the normal shutdown procedure? |
| 17:07.08 | Bombo | chenchacha: like this https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/threads.html |
| 17:07.44 | karlpinc | ln_: You could script something. See: /etc/init.d/README |
| 17:07.57 | ln_ | karlpinc, ty |
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| 17:09.09 | Bombo | karlpinc: http://marc.info/?l=debian-user&r=1&w=2 looks better than the original ;) |
| 17:09.29 | teraflops | nmtui is so usefull for the ones who are using tilling, better than nmcli |
| 17:09.42 | chenchacha | Bombo: you want to see thread? the menu Veiw->Sort->conversation |
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| 17:09.54 | karlpinc | ln_: "man insserv" might also be helpful. IIRC there's some example scripts in /usr/share/doc/insserv*/, maybe. |
| 17:10.25 | Bombo | karlpinc: but i don't want to use the browser at all, instead maybe NNTP (tin) |
| 17:10.25 | karlpinc | Bombo: Some folks like gmane (I forget the url) |
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| 17:10.59 | Bombo | chenchacha: but i don't have any mails in there. |
| 17:11.06 | karlpinc | Bombo: I bet google groups has a nntp gateway. |
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| 17:12.23 | Bombo | karlpinc: is the debian-user mailing list 'mirrored' in google groups? |
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| 17:12.41 | skilz | I think it's when it switches to run level 2 it usually changes the font |
| 17:12.57 | skilz | Can I have the grub resolution will that fix it? |
| 17:13.01 | karlpinc | Bombo: Dunno, but many many lists are gatewayed to usenet. And google groups does usenet. |
| 17:13.10 | skilz | #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 |
| 17:13.18 | skilz | Shall I uncomment and edit that line? |
| 17:13.36 | karlpinc | skilz: I think it's earlier in the boot sequence. |
| 17:13.37 | skilz | GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1200 ? |
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| 17:13.56 | skilz | I don't know how changing video drivers messed this up |
| 17:14.03 | karlpinc | skilz: man grub will tell you. (I don't think that's it.) |
| 17:14.03 | skilz | I liked the nice console font I had |
| 17:14.14 | Bombo | karlpinc: gmane looks good, if i had the mailing list archive locally |
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| 17:15.45 | chenchacha | Bombo: I feel i don't understand what you say, let me push my desktop |
| 17:15.51 | skilz | http://m1.archiveorange.com/m/att/mK9nV/ArchiveOrange_bU0H6AfkFXcdJNVqWZyaN7Qdubsa.jpg |
| 17:15.56 | skilz | How do I get grub to look like that? |
| 17:16.42 | Bombo | http://gmane.org/import.php Mailing list archives can be imported into Gmane. |
| 17:16.43 | Bombo | Archives to be imported can be in one of two formats: Either a tar file of a one-message-per-file directory, where the files have names that increase numerically, or a Unix mbox file. No other formats are acceptable. A Unix mbox file is preferred. |
| 17:17.10 | Bombo | now i would need to get the debian-user ml archive to mbox format |
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| 17:18.33 | Bombo | chenchacha: i want to read this https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/01/threads.html in a mail client or nntp client |
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| 17:19.45 | chenchacha | Bombo: do you want to achieve this effect http://susepaste.org/3974661 |
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| 17:21.23 | Bombo | chenchacha: yes. but i don't have any mails yet. i want to access the archive |
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| 17:23.11 | chenchacha | Bombo: do you subscribe? do you received mail |
| 17:23.16 | skilz | Ok so changing that line in grub #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 made the grub boot menu very small |
| 17:23.22 | skilz | 1920x1200 res |
| 17:23.33 | skilz | But after that, the console booting font is still big |
| 17:23.37 | skilz | What am I missing? |
| 17:23.45 | Bombo | chenchacha: nope |
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| 17:24.38 | skilz | I want it to look like this http://www.aurel32.net/info/debian_sparc_qemu_di_boot.png |
| 17:24.48 | skilz | But it looks like this http://www.wezm.net/images/2010/03/MG_8024.jpg |
| 17:25.13 | chenchacha | Bombo: if you cause the mail too little don't look natural, you can wait a few day |
| 17:25.57 | Bombo | chenchacha: how long do i have to wait to see mails from 2013? |
| 17:27.54 | chenchacha | Bombo: oh so you are going to find the last mail, i no way, only search by html. |
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| 17:29.26 | skilz | ? |
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| 17:30.39 | Bombo | chenchacha: gmane seems to work http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user |
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| 17:31.01 | Bombo | nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user |
| 17:31.02 | skilz | How do I edit kernel boot options |
| 17:32.02 | chenchacha | Bombo: sorry I don't know this |
| 17:32.17 | Bombo | i do 'tin -g news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.user' but its the complete archive, i want to just select one month |
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| 17:33.27 | justanotheruser | How much space would it take up if I downloaded all the stable packages |
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| 17:34.12 | Bombo | justanotheruser: probably nearly as much as if you would dl the dvd/cd isos |
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| 17:35.08 | helena | Hello. I am looking create an installation disc from an existing system I just set up. |
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| 17:36.02 | abrotman | judd: info bootdisk |
| 17:36.04 | judd | No package named 'bootdisk' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 17:36.08 | abrotman | hrm .. |
| 17:36.15 | helena | Who is judd? |
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| 17:46.51 | pie_ | how can i set the arch that lxc creates a container with? im on amd64 and i want to create an i386 container |
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| 17:50.30 | socomm | pie_: there's a #lxc channel on this network |
| 17:50.48 | helena | Why is a modern kernel in experimental when it should be in stable?! |
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| 17:51.03 | skilz | Ok so changing that grub file made the grub boot menu smaller res |
| 17:51.14 | skilz | But how do I change the actual boot console res? |
| 17:51.25 | skilz | I've tried console-setup |
| 17:51.26 | socomm | helena: modern kernel?! |
| 17:51.28 | skilz | But I don't think thats it |
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| 17:51.39 | helena | Linux 3.15 should be hitting stable users |
| 17:51.51 | helena | The kernel currently used in stable is ancient |
| 17:52.00 | socomm | helena: i don't like being hit by my kernel :'( |
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| 17:52.38 | helena | socomm: Then you will be hit by security issues |
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| 17:53.11 | socomm | helena: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html |
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| 17:53.23 | pie_ | socomm: thanks |
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| 17:54.08 | socomm | helena: I'm not sure what you're referring to |
| 17:54.57 | psimon | helena: security upgrades are still shipped for LTS kernels such as the Debian default. |
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| 17:56.19 | psimon | I prefer to compile my own kernel with grsecurity support. It is old, but VERY secure |
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| 17:59.00 | skilz | Okay, I installed plymouth, but it didn't show during boot |
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| 17:59.27 | pie_ | what version of libc does jessie have? |
| 17:59.52 | psimon | skillz: did you append the splash boot parameter? |
| 17:59.57 | ioudas | Hi, I have a debian wheezy install on a jetway (intel nm10 chipset) that will randomly kernel panic. When it does the kern.log shows an error message of drm registered panic notifier. Does anyone have ideas on how to solve this? |
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| 18:01.05 | Extensa5630G | how to restore the xorg to its default settings?it seems like i messed the graphical server somehow |
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| 18:04.45 | psimon | Extensa5630G: have you tried purging and reinstalling? |
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| 18:06.13 | Extensa5630G | psimon: sorry, how to?i forgot the exact packages-in-question's names |
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| 18:06.38 | socomm | Extensa5630G: rename your xserver config file? |
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| 18:06.59 | socomm | Extensa5630G: did you messup your xorg install, or its configuration? |
| 18:07.00 | psimon | Extensa5630G: the main package is called xorg |
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| 18:08.08 | Extensa5630G | socomm: o remember that i tried to update the kde version from 4.8.4 to 4.12.5, i use debian wheezy kde, and wanted to get the new kde found in fedora 20, it has a much better graphical performance |
| 18:08.31 | Extensa5630G | i installed kde 4.11.x from jessie's site |
| 18:08.40 | Extensa5630G | that's stupid , eh? :p |
| 18:08.45 | psimon | Extensa5630G: pff that's a mess |
| 18:09.12 | socomm | Extensa5630G: eh, not sure, I'd say purge all your XOrg/KDE related stuff and re-install from scratch |
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| 18:09.27 | socomm | re-install XOrg/KDE from scratch |
| 18:09.30 | socomm | not your OS |
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| 18:09.59 | Extensa5630G | socomm: i have begun doing that already, i wrote "apt-get remove kde*" |
| 18:10.06 | psimon | Extensa5630G: if you want to use the new stuff, upgrade your release to testing. If you want to roll back to stable, purge everything xorg and kde related, and possibly everything that was upgraded |
| 18:10.12 | psimon | then reinstalll what you need |
| 18:10.51 | Extensa5630G | psimon: Um' I see,but i wonder why is the kde version of debian wheezy older than fedora 20's :| |
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| 18:11.49 | psimon | Because it's STABLE. Every package goes through extensive testing before accepted to Debian stable |
| 18:12.05 | psimon | Extensa5630G: if you want the new stuff, go for testing |
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| 18:13.24 | Extensa5630G | psimon: should i get debian jessie as a whole OS? |
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| 18:14.02 | psimon | upgrade your sources.list to testing and do a dist-upgrade |
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| 18:16.18 | Extensa5630G | psimon: aren't the packages that belong to jessie less stable than wheezy's after all? |
| 18:16.21 | ISF | I'm trying to modprobe dm_mod (wheezy on a digital ocean vps), but it keeps giving the same error on dmesg: "dm_mod: Unknown symbol dm_kobject_release" (kernel is a 3.2.0-4 amd64). How can I fix that? |
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| 18:16.51 | karlpinc | !tell Extensa5630G about frankendebian |
| 18:17.01 | psimon | Extensa5630G: yesm they are less stable. But more stable then Fedora I guess. |
| 18:17.15 | karlpinc | Extensa5630G: You don't want to mix releases. Choose one or the other. |
| 18:17.46 | Extensa5630G | psimon: Um', I see, i'm now replacing 'wheezy' with 'jessie' in sources.list, in another tty session |
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| 18:18.11 | Extensa5630G | karlpinc: true, i happened to mix them in the sources.list before the accident, i messed things :p |
| 18:18.13 | karlpinc | Extensa5630G: But you _can_ backport some packages, and there's offical support for some backports, if you want some specific package to be new. |
| 18:18.28 | Extensa5630G | karlpinc: i see |
| 18:18.30 | karlpinc | (newer) |
| 18:18.35 | dst_ | is this the right channel to ask questions about configuring ipv6 in a home router running debian wheezy? |
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| 18:18.48 | karlpinc | dst_: Yup. Just ask. |
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| 18:18.57 | ioudas | Hi, I have a debian wheezy install on a jetway (intel nm10 chipset) that will randomly kernel panic. When it does the kern.log shows an error message of drm registered panic notifier. Does anyone have ideas on how to solve this? |
| 18:18.59 | Extensa5630G | karlpinc: i was targetting kde after all, its new version's graphical performaces , that i experienced in fedora 20, rock |
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| 18:19.38 | karlpinc | Extensa5630G: That's a lot to backport. I tend to use stable and just wait. Others have other priorities. |
| 18:19.57 | dst_ | so, my ISP now provides ipv6, and i want to enable it in my network as well, but how should i configure the eth1 interface (facing my internal net) |
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| 18:20.32 | dst_ | what should i write in my /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 18:20.33 | Extensa5630G | karlpinc: i see(at the dpkg's statement) |
| 18:21.33 | karlpinc | dst_: IPv6 tends to autoconfigure. At least you've probably already got a a v6 IP. But I've no clue how this manages to route. |
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| 18:21.51 | dst_ | karlpinc: no, that's my problem as well :) |
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| 18:21.57 | subz3r0 | hi folks |
| 18:22.19 | karlpinc | dst_: Has your ISP made some sort of statement regards v6? |
| 18:22.22 | dst_ | i get a ipv6 address on my eth0 (facing the internet) |
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| 18:22.39 | subz3r0 | atm im installing debian 7 on a netbook and got this: missing firware .... brcm/bcm43xx-o.fw |
| 18:22.45 | subz3r0 | what now? |
| 18:22.54 | subz3r0 | fetch it somwhere and put it on another usb sticl? |
| 18:22.54 | dst_ | karlpinc: an "enable ipv6" link in their customer portal, and they have said that they are ready |
| 18:22.55 | subz3r0 | stick |
| 18:23.23 | karlpinc | dst_: man interfaces will tell you the syntax, but the question is what you want to happen. |
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| 18:23.59 | dst_ | karlpinc: oh, yes, everything is probably there, but i cannot really figure out how i should configure it |
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| 18:24.19 | dst_ | because i guess i get a random segment from my ISP, and i guess then on the inside, i should put a slice of that |
| 18:24.41 | dst_ | but that means that eth1 should depend on what it has received on eth0? |
| 18:24.42 | karlpinc | dst_: Yeah. (Sorry, kinda busy now.) |
| 18:24.53 | dst_ | karlpinc: sure :) i'm just typing |
| 18:25.01 | dst_ | so others might have some input as well :) |
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| 18:27.08 | dst_ | anyone with ipv6+debian+router knowledge here? |
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| 18:27.31 | roelj | Which library is APT using for decompressing packages? :) |
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| 18:29.43 | Nik05 | zlib1g liblzma1, thats what a quick look at dependecies says |
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| 18:30.18 | Extensa5630G | when doing apt-get update, does the downloaded data correspond to purely textual content that is the packages' DB? otherwise what is being downloaded there? |
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| 18:31.12 | dst_ | Extensa5630G: yes, the package lists are provided only in textual form (though, maybe compressed) |
| 18:32.04 | roelj | Thanks for the info! |
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| 18:32.19 | dst_ | Extensa5630G: like here: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/ |
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| 18:32.53 | colonolGron | is anybody using gnome3 in testing? i installed it in a VM, and it seems quite slow, not reacting quickly enough, i doubt its because of VM though since XFCE and i3 work perfect |
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| 18:33.26 | Extensa5630G | dst_: i see. |
| 18:33.46 | ptrsimon | Extensa5630G: is your testing vs stable issue solved? |
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| 18:34.09 | Nik05 | lol didnt knew rc-buggy was a symlink to experimental |
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| 18:35.00 | Extensa5630G | ptrsimon: i replaced 'wheezy' with 'jessy' in sources.list, but after doing (apt-get update), (apt-get install kde*) does nothing :s |
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| 18:35.26 | Extensa5630G | ptrsimon: i mean it outputs data and stuff, but it doesn't really get the kde packages |
| 18:35.29 | dst_ | Extensa5630G: Are you going to upgrade everything to jessie? |
| 18:35.33 | ptrsimon | it won't because KDE is already up to date on your system. |
| 18:35.37 | Extensa5630G | ptrsimon: Yes sir. |
| 18:35.44 | ptrsimon | do an upgrade |
| 18:35.49 | ptrsimon | and then a dist-upgrade |
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| 18:36.03 | Extensa5630G | ptrsimon: but i did (apt-get remove kde*) previousely |
| 18:36.27 | Extensa5630G | dst_: Yes sir |
| 18:36.34 | ptrsimon | Extensa5630G: that was a bad move since it isn't purging the configuration files. |
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| 18:37.12 | skilz | How much work is it to upgrade to testing? |
| 18:37.18 | skilz | I need these nvidia drivers |
| 18:37.20 | Extensa5630G | ptrsimon: i thoght that i should simply remove the current kde and reinstall the kde from jessie :s |
| 18:37.31 | dst_ | skilz: backports not enough? |
| 18:37.43 | ptrsimon | Extensa5630G: now try to do an apt-get purge kde* |
| 18:37.48 | Extensa5630G | skilz: nvidia's proprietary drivers work fine with linux, why don't you get them |
| 18:37.55 | Extensa5630G | ptrsimon: Alright. |
| 18:37.55 | ptrsimon | skilz: it depends on what do you want |
| 18:38.31 | jhutchins | !kde |
| 18:38.32 | dpkg | KDE software is based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Ask me about <install kde> or <remove kde>. You can also get KDE-specific help in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net) or in other KDE-related IRC channels: http://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels . Also check out http://wiki.debian.org/KDE . |
| 18:38.33 | dst_ | skilz: easier route is to enable backports and take them from there |
| 18:38.38 | ptrsimon | skilz: btw it isn't much work to upgrade - update sources.list, apt-get update; upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 18:38.45 | skilz | Dpesm |
| 18:38.55 | skilz | Doesn't support my card it's too new for Debian |
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| 18:38.57 | Extensa5630G | ptrsimon: ah it did remove things |
| 18:38.58 | skilz | GTX 770 |
| 18:39.20 | ptrsimon | skilz: isn't a firmware enough? |
| 18:39.25 | skilz | Nope |
| 18:39.33 | ptrsimon | what have you tried? |
| 18:39.41 | ptrsimon | skilz: |
| 18:39.41 | skilz | Tells me to install a legacy nvidia driver |
| 18:39.50 | skilz | Everything on the Debian nvidia page |
| 18:40.21 | ptrsimon | and what is the error / what is not working? please try to provide more details. |
| 18:40.36 | skilz | I installed new kernel from backports, plus firmware and all the relevant nvidia packages |
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| 18:40.40 | Extensa5630G | ptrsimon: should i now write (apt-get install kde-full) ? |
| 18:40.51 | ptrsimon | Extensa5630G: right |
| 18:40.56 | skilz | The error was my card is not supported |
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| 18:41.16 | jhutchins | skilz: Details of the error are important. |
| 18:41.42 | skilz | Uh oh. Your card is only supported by the 71.86 legacy drivers series, which is not in any current Debian suite. |
| 18:41.43 | ptrsimon | skillz: not supported? what did display this? What is the exact erro? |
| 18:41.52 | ptrsimon | *error |
| 18:42.03 | skilz | It thinks it's an old card which is worse! |
| 18:42.12 | skilz | Debian! I'm offended! |
| 18:42.34 | skilz | Thats the error |
| 18:42.54 | skilz | ~$ nvidia-detect |
| 18:42.54 | skilz | Detected NVIDIA GPUs: |
| 18:42.54 | skilz | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1184] (rev a1) |
| 18:42.54 | skilz | Uh oh. Your card is only supported by the 71.86 legacy drivers series, which is not in any current Debian suite. |
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| 18:43.00 | magyar | hi, does anyone here knows a way to enable hardware acceleration for all the flash content in iceweasel-30 (wheezy)? |
| 18:43.03 | Extensa5630G | why can't skilz install the nvidia proprietary driver? is it the same cause as ATI GPUs? nvidia drivers for linux work fine afaik |
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| 18:43.22 | skilz | It didn't work |
| 18:43.24 | skilz | I tried |
| 18:43.40 | skilz | I can't remember the probelm, one of the guys here helped me for like an hour |
| 18:43.50 | dst_ | skilz: okay, what was the error then ? |
| 18:44.02 | skilz | But he pretty much said "Your card is too new for Debian". |
| 18:44.07 | dst_ | skilz: it works quite well for me usually? |
| 18:44.12 | dst_ | ? -> ... |
| 18:44.18 | skilz | Only option was to upgrade to testing |
| 18:44.30 | skilz | dst_, But do you have a GTX 770? |
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| 18:44.45 | skilz | Only supported up to the 600 series |
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| 18:44.57 | dst_ | skilz: not personally, but i have configured it on other machines |
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| 18:45.55 | skilz | So in /etc/apt/sources/list do I just replace "wheezy' with "jessie" ? |
| 18:46.11 | dst_ | !upgrade |
| 18:46.11 | dpkg | well, upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <lenny->squeeze> <squeeze->wheezy>. |
| 18:46.30 | dst_ | !wheezy->jessie |
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| 18:46.37 | dst_ | hmm, that didn't work |
| 18:46.43 | dst_ | !<wheezy->jessie> |
| 18:46.49 | jhutchins | skilz: Testing is not going to affect whether the nvidia proprietary driver supports your card. |
| 18:46.50 | dst_ | i give up |
| 18:47.10 | jmcnaught | skilz: have you tried backports before considing jessie? |
| 18:47.17 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell dst_ -about selftell |
| 18:47.40 | skilz | Yes I have |
| 18:48.01 | dst_ | jmcnaught: sorry, i wanted to show the upgrade procedure to skilz |
| 18:48.06 | skilz | jhutchins, The proprietary driver supports my card, but Debian stable doesn't not |
| 18:48.40 | dst_ | skilz: nvidia drivers in testing is pretty much exactly what ends up in backports |
| 18:48.53 | jmcnaught | dst_: yeah i know :) still you can query the bot on your own before doing it in-channel. http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/search.php too |
| 18:49.00 | dst_ | skilz: so if backports doesn't work, testing will probably not work very well either |
| 18:49.06 | dst_ | jmcnaught: true. Sorry :) |
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| 18:49.38 | ioudas | Hi, I have a debian wheezy install on a jetway (intel nm10 chipset) that will randomly kernel panic. When it does the kern.log shows an error message of drm registered panic notifier. Does anyone have ideas on how to solve this? |
| 18:49.43 | jhutchins | skilz: I don't see the gtx 770 on any of the drivers from x.org, so if upstream doesn't support it yet, Debian's definitely not going to have it, even in testing. |
| 18:50.07 | skilz | Hmm |
| 18:50.10 | skilz | Why not? |
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| 18:50.15 | skilz | It's a year old card |
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| 18:50.25 | skilz | Will it work if I install Ubuntu? |
| 18:50.40 | garfil2 | hi.. I have a usb stick I understand dd-ing the image to it will work, but how can I get a bunch of debian disros on there with different window environments? |
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| 18:50.48 | garfil2 | I have the iso files for the different ones. |
| 18:50.51 | dst_ | skilz: no idea, but i would suggest using the nvidia drivers from their page then instead |
| 18:51.06 | dst_ | skilz: if it's not supported in the drivers in debian |
| 18:51.08 | skilz | Or Slackware? |
| 18:51.19 | skilz | Best bet is prob Gentoo since it's bleeding edge? |
| 18:51.33 | skilz | I tried that |
| 18:51.53 | dst_ | skilz: i would bet that nvidia has a driver that it works with |
| 18:52.09 | jmcnaught | skilz: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-319.23-driver <-- release notes say this is version that adds GTX 770 support. wheezy-backports has 319.82. |
| 18:52.20 | dst_ | skilz: but that would be easier if you could tell us why it didn't work with their drivers either |
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| 18:52.50 | jhutchins | skilz: The distributions don't develop the drivers, that's done by x.org and freedesktop.org. The distros all use what those projects develop. |
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| 18:53.08 | skilz | I forget why that didn't work |
| 18:53.12 | skilz | Well I will try again |
| 18:53.16 | skilz | SO what do I do now? |
| 18:53.24 | dst_ | skilz: download the driver from nvidia |
| 18:53.40 | jmcnaught | dst_: not a good plan |
| 18:53.47 | dst_ | jmcnaught: okay? |
| 18:53.50 | skilz | Already have it |
| 18:54.10 | dst_ | jmcnaught: --verbose? :P |
| 18:54.15 | jmcnaught | skilz: the nvidia driver in wheezy-backports should support your card |
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| 18:54.52 | dst_ | aha, sorry, i swapped the version numbers you posted |
| 18:54.54 | dst_ | in my head |
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| 18:55.05 | jmcnaught | dst_: that installer script from nvidia installs files in a way that cannot be removed with apt-get. it also needs to be recompiled manually every time there's a kernel update. forget to do that, and drivers stop working. the packaged version should always be used |
| 18:55.47 | dst_ | jmcnaught: yes, it does, but it makes the card work until next time |
| 18:55.57 | dst_ | but as you said, the version in backports should work |
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| 18:56.20 | dst_ | but i thought you said that the drivers in backports wasn't new enough, so that is why i suggested it. Sorry for the confusion |
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| 18:56.53 | jmcnaught | dst_: no worries, i just hate to see people bork their systems with that terrible nvidia driver install script :) |
| 18:56.54 | ScottE | It also depends on what kernel you are running, since last time I tried it neither wheezy or wheezy-backports worked with the backport kernel (3.13 at that time) |
| 18:57.15 | ScottE | ack - neither wheezy or wheezy-backports of nvidia driver |
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| 18:57.24 | dst_ | jmcnaught: oh yes, i agree completely :) |
| 18:58.08 | dst_ | i did however run into a problem running the backports version |
| 18:58.21 | dst_ | it couldn't load the driver correctly because of undefined symbols |
| 18:58.25 | dst_ | but i think that is solved now |
| 18:58.36 | dst_ | skilz: was that the problem you had? |
| 18:58.38 | skilz | jmcnaught, No it doesn't I forgot who was helping me but one of the main guys here was and he is like debian doesnt support it |
| 18:58.51 | ScottE | dst_ yep, that's the incompatibility I'm talking about as well |
| 18:58.52 | jmcnaught | also the packaged versions of drivers are supported here |
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| 18:59.24 | dst_ | ScottE: i managed to find a patch for it, so i just applied that |
| 18:59.48 | jhutchins | ScottE: So the backported nvidia driver doesn't work at all? |
| 18:59.58 | jhutchins | ScottE: That should be reported. |
| 19:00.19 | dst_ | jhutchins: it had a problem a while back, i haven't tried it recently, but i had a debian bug# |
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| 19:01.27 | Snet2 | does anyone know if there is a way to make multiple debian machines look at one authorized_keys file via http or something |
| 19:01.47 | dst_ | Snet2: does that sound secure? |
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| 19:02.03 | Snet2 | it would be on a local net |
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| 19:02.35 | Snet2 | idk per say someone would still have to get ahold of my key or compromise the dns/web location its looking at |
| 19:02.44 | dst_ | Snet2: can't you just use "ssh-copy-id <machine-name>" |
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| 19:03.16 | Snet2 | what does that do copy the ids ? |
| 19:03.43 | dst_ | yes, it adds the id_rsa.pub entry to the authorized_keys on the host specified |
| 19:04.27 | ScottE | jhutchins: I haven't tried it recently - but at the time I ran into the problem the backported driver only worked if you were on the 3.2 kernel, but not with the backported 3.13 kernel |
| 19:04.29 | dst_ | Snet2: without removing the other entries, so it's better than just scp the whole file possibly (Depending on the situation) |
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| 19:05.04 | dst_ | jhutchins: liek ScottE said. Some symbols were no longer exported after 3.12 or 3.11 i believe. |
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| 19:06.45 | Snet2 | well sweet ill try that |
| 19:07.08 | dst_ | Snet2: good luck :) |
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| 19:07.14 | dst_ | Snet2: are there many machines? |
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| 19:07.34 | dst_ | btw, i think this was the bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742404 |
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| 19:08.16 | asterismo | any rapid changelog or comparison between kernel 3.2 and 3.15? |
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| 19:08.26 | asterismo | main new features |
| 19:08.29 | asterismo | ? |
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| 19:09.03 | dst_ | i don't remember the list in my head, but probably some |
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| 19:12.45 | ioudas | Hi, I have a debian wheezy install on a jetway (intel nm10 chipset) that will randomly kernel panic. When it does the kern.log shows an error message of drm registered panic notifier. Does anyone have ideas on how to solve this? |
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| 19:14.36 | asterismo | is there anyway to strip down the kernel drivers and compile a new kernel just with the hardware of my box? i mean, an automated way, maybe generate a list of present hardware and then import it in the menuconfig somehow... |
| 19:15.01 | towo` | make localmodconfig |
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| 19:15.29 | towo` | but make sure, all needed modules are loaded at this time |
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| 19:16.42 | asterismo | towo`: that generates a new .config file? |
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| 19:18.12 | towo` | asterismo, sure |
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| 19:18.43 | towo` | but it will not enable modules like smb, if the module is not loaded now |
| 19:18.55 | towo` | s/smb/cifs |
| 19:19.55 | towo` | and if you have hardware, which is not recognized by the actual running kernel, its not eneabled in the new config too |
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| 19:21.31 | asterismo | would be nice to export, say, just the networking drivers |
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| 19:21.55 | asterismo | like by sections |
| 19:21.58 | asterismo | anyway |
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| 19:22.50 | jmcnaught | !kp |
| 19:22.50 | dpkg | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
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| 19:23.44 | jmcnaught | asterismo: ^^^ also https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en |
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| 19:25.41 | towo` | no one should use make-kpkg nowdays |
| 19:25.54 | towo` | make deb-pkg is the way to go |
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| 19:26.47 | jmcnaught | i haven't compiled a kernel in over a decade, i just happened to know the factoid and had seen that chapter in the install manual |
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| 19:29.50 | jmcnaught | asterismo: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.kernel-compilation.html is maybe more up to date then, and it also has a link to The Debian Kernel Handbook for more details |
| 19:30.10 | dst_ | last time i compiled a kernel I spent almost 2 hours just going through all the menu options |
| 19:30.26 | dst_ | and i remember back in the days, when i thought 20 minutes was a long time |
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| 19:34.29 | pie_ | k |
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| 19:38.17 | jhutchins | jmcnaught: Perhaps we need to go through the documentation and at least mark what's no longer applicable. |
| 19:38.53 | jhutchins | I always wish people would put a date on documentation. The Wiki shoudl do it automatically and prominently. |
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| 19:39.47 | jhutchins | Kernel compiles were the original stress-testing benchmarks. |
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| 19:40.10 | dst_ | heh, yeah |
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| 19:40.46 | dst_ | i remember i had a pention 90, which i had snipped the power to the cpu fan, and connected it in serial with the turbo button on the chassis |
| 19:40.53 | dst_ | because the computer was in my bedroom |
| 19:41.13 | dst_ | it worked most of the time, but it threw errors like crazy if i forgot to enable the cpu fan, while compiling the kernel |
| 19:42.01 | Luxxi | lol |
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| 19:43.31 | dst_ | gcc throwing errors about the code |
| 19:43.40 | dst_ | but everything else seemed to work as it should |
| 19:43.45 | dst_ | which i find a bit strange |
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| 19:51.06 | asterismo | dst_, jhutchins, jmcnaught, i'm compiling... so far so good |
| 19:51.31 | sandman13 | so what |
| 19:51.32 | asterismo | i may later compile a custom kernel for my atom netbook |
| 19:51.33 | sandman13 | hides |
| 19:51.58 | asterismo | sony vaio pocket with a fanless Atom Z550 CPU |
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| 19:52.20 | asterismo | maybe a stripped down kernel tweaks a bit |
| 19:54.12 | asterismo | guys, is there a real time kernel for debian? |
| 19:54.19 | asterismo | something like QNX? |
| 19:54.36 | asterismo | there are some timing settings in the kernel config |
| 19:56.21 | asterismo | anyone? |
| 19:57.23 | dst_ | asterismo: i think there is some settings you can enable |
| 19:57.45 | dst_ | asterismo: but i have no idea how it compares to QNX |
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| 19:58.21 | dst_ | asterismo: but i remember seeing some realtime patches for linux, but that was a long time ago |
| 19:58.26 | dst_ | in a galaxy far far away |
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| 19:59.17 | dst_ | for all i know, that could already be included in the kernel by now |
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| 20:00.03 | babilen | dpkg: tell asterismo about rt |
| 20:00.11 | babilen | asterismo: What do you need a real-time kernel for? |
| 20:00.24 | babilen | (in particular on an atom) |
| 20:00.32 | asterismo | not for the atom |
| 20:00.50 | asterismo | for an astronomical observatory and data acquisition |
| 20:01.12 | asterismo | some processes that samples very fast |
| 20:01.21 | asterismo | i dunno |
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| 20:03.05 | babilen | asterismo: Well, you should know if you setup such a system. |
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| 20:04.10 | babilen | asterismo: I mean it is not "Ah, well .. I got myself a VLT, better check if I should maybe install some Linux servers to handle its data" |
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| 20:04.31 | babilen | These things are typically rather well planned :D |
| 20:05.23 | dst_ | babilen: maybe he got an offer he couldn't refuse, and really wanted the thing :) |
| 20:05.41 | dst_ | always fun to learn something new :) |
| 20:06.00 | dst_ | by the way, talking about realtime |
| 20:06.37 | dst_ | what are the rules for enabling realtime scheduling for a process? |
| 20:06.44 | babilen | I mean there are distinct downsides to RT due to the high number of context switches and I was simply curious |
| 20:07.21 | dst_ | because i guess it would be bad if it some of the kernel threads doesn't receive their fair share? |
| 20:07.28 | dst_ | or doesn't that matter much? |
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| 20:08.31 | asterismo | you see, the thing is that we are controlling a telescope with step motor and the PC must supply frequency steps to the step motor. |
| 20:08.47 | dst_ | hmm |
| 20:08.58 | asterismo | Actually we use an old PC with MS-DOS because since it's a mono-tasking OS, it does a good job |
| 20:08.59 | dst_ | that sounds like something that should have a separate controller? |
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| 20:09.30 | asterismo | the other solution that i have seen in other fancy observatories, like in Chile... is a Real Time kernel and even QNX OS |
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| 20:10.20 | asterismo | so, the frequency steps maybe are not so demanding and maybe a real time linux kernel does the job similar to MS-DOS |
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| 20:10.38 | asterismo | i heard that RT kernels are good for sampling audio |
| 20:10.40 | asterismo | so |
| 20:10.44 | asterismo | maybe it works... |
| 20:10.56 | babilen | asterismo: What are *you* using it for? |
| 20:11.15 | asterismo | using what? |
| 20:11.35 | babilen | Ah, you elaborated on that earlier. nvm. |
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| 20:11.54 | asterismo | oh ok |
| 20:11.57 | babilen | asterismo: And as we have been through that before: Yes, there is a rt kernel in bpo too. |
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| 20:13.10 | gooberfoob | I have to issues I need help with. |
| 20:13.26 | babilen | gooberfoob: Okay, will you let us know what they are? |
| 20:13.39 | gooberfoob | 1. I installed Debian without a archive mirror, because I go an error. 2. my asus n13 adapter is not showing up |
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| 20:14.23 | gooberfoob | how do i add the default archive mirror ? and how can I get my usb to work ? |
| 20:14.50 | gooberfoob | the usb works in crunchbang, I just ended up not liking the enviroment so i came back to debain wheezy |
| 20:14.57 | babilen | gooberfoob: For 1.: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and use http://paste.debian.net/107839/. Run "apt-get update" once you edited that file. |
| 20:15.35 | babilen | gooberfoob: I am assuming that your "asus n13 adapter" is a wifi adapter? If so: Please show me the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" |
| 20:15.54 | babilen | Ah, it's an USB adaptor. Do you know which chipset it uses? Does it show up in "lsusb" ? |
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| 20:16.52 | gooberfoob | I am unable to add information to my sourcelist because it is write only |
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| 20:17.49 | gooberfoob | I guess I need to switch to my root profile |
| 20:18.16 | dst_ | gooberfoob: yes, that is correct |
| 20:18.22 | gooberfoob | brb |
| 20:18.30 | dst_ | or just su from a shell perhaps |
| 20:18.33 | dst_ | which is simpler |
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| 20:18.44 | dst_ | or not |
| 20:18.46 | dst_ | :) |
| 20:19.15 | noah_ | Just for curiosity's sake: Is it not a good idea to use sudo to edit? |
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| 20:19.50 | gooberfoob | I am back. |
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| 20:20.10 | babilen | gooberfoob: Why did you have to log out? |
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| 20:20.19 | dst_ | noah_: i sometime use "sudo vim <filename>", that works for me |
| 20:20.38 | gooberfoob | I am sorry, Can you send me the sourelist again. |
| 20:20.57 | gooberfoob | I had to switch to my root account because I could not save to my sourcelist |
| 20:20.59 | dst_ | noah_: and i guess it uses .vimrc and stuff for root in that case, so it should be quite safe |
| 20:21.33 | noah_ | dst_: I personally use nano and I'm not sure how it goes about root editing exactly. |
| 20:22.01 | nabblet | hi, i am suddenly missing a command (jitsi) - any ideas why it can not be found anymore? |
| 20:22.09 | noah_ | But 'sudo nano 'file'' is usually what I do. |
| 20:22.10 | nabblet | the packages providing it is installed |
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| 20:22.20 | gooberfoob | I forget who I was talking with but, when I installed debian I had a error for my archive mirror. |
| 20:22.30 | ioudas | Hi, I have a debian wheezy install on a jetway (intel nm10 chipset) that will randomly kernel panic. When it does the kern.log shows an error message of drm registered panic notifier. Does anyone have ideas on how to solve this? |
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| 20:22.59 | gooberfoob | What do I need to add to my sourcelist since when I installed I had an error |
| 20:23.43 | dst_ | gooberfoob: http://paste.debian.net/107839/ |
| 20:23.55 | jhutchins | noah_: Debian's always assumed that you will do system management from the console as root. Other distros try to force you to use sudo as the only tool that can perform root tasks. Those of us who learned on root-enabled sysetms usually end up enabling it somehow. |
| 20:23.57 | skilz | Is there some emulator I can use to run Mac OS9? |
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| 20:24.30 | edjix | hey guys, trying to do data recovery on a set of laptop HDD's put into a desktop. Same hdd manufacturer, same size, WD Skorpio Black, 160GB. I'm coming up at boot with a "modprobe COMRESET fail error 16". BIOS is showing a connection at that sata port to one of the laptop hdd's, but no info sent back. The other one is working fine. any tips to get around the issue, or is the data unrecoverable at this point? |
| 20:24.40 | jhutchins | skilz: Not that I've ever heard of. |
| 20:25.05 | jhutchins | skilz: An emulator would break copyright on OS9. |
| 20:25.11 | gooberfoob | For my asus n13 I have the cd that came with it. Can that be of use ? |
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| 20:25.18 | jhutchins | skilz: I believe you can run it on parallels, and possibly vmware. |
| 20:25.26 | tharkun | skilz: Learn first on what HW did it used to run then look for a vm that holds that arquitecture. Really a daunting task and your chances of success minimal. |
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| 20:25.50 | jmcnaught | skilz: qemu can apparently emulate powerpc |
| 20:25.52 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: Unlikely, asus doesn't usually supply any linux software. |
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| 20:26.15 | kevinfish | what package has X's standard serverside fonts? |
| 20:26.16 | gooberfoob | this is for linux and microsoft. This adapter works on crunchbang |
| 20:26.24 | jhutchins | jmcnaught: That's just hardware level, right? |
| 20:26.27 | tharkun | jmcnaught: not necesarilly the hw os9 runned on. IIRC they used to run on some motorala processor |
| 20:26.37 | gooberfoob | if this works on crunchbang, it will work on here. |
| 20:27.03 | jhutchins | tharkun: Yeah, I think PPC was OSX all along. |
| 20:27.05 | jmcnaught | there's also pearpc |
| 20:27.35 | jmcnaught | os 9 would have been ppc.. m68k was replaced a bit earlier IIRC |
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| 20:27.56 | nabblet | hi, i was a happy user of jitsi but now it suddenly says command not found. where do is start investigation? |
| 20:28.12 | gooberfoob | Am I wrong to say that my adapter will work if it worked with crunchbang |
| 20:28.16 | babilen | gooberfoob: Do you know which chipset it uses? Does it show up in "lsusb" (just answer my questions as I genuinely just want to help you) |
| 20:28.22 | jhutchins | edjix: Doesn't sound good. You can try switching SATA ports and switching cables, but the drive is the most likely failed component. |
| 20:28.36 | ioudas | Hi, I have a debian wheezy install on a jetway (intel nm10 chipset) that will randomly kernel panic. When it does the kern.log shows an error message of drm registered panic notifier. Does anyone have ideas on how to solve this? |
| 20:28.39 | babilen | gooberfoob: Use a pastebin such as http://paste.debian.net to provide the output of that command if you aren't sure yourself. |
| 20:28.43 | gooberfoob | rtl819 |
| 20:29.07 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: It will most likely work, although there may be some extra steps like downloading firmware. |
| 20:29.13 | dst_ | nabblet: you can install apt-file, and run "apt-file update", then use that tool to look for the file |
| 20:29.16 | edjix | jhutchins: already did that, tried a different set of sata ports too...so it looks like i have a failed WD hdd, |
| 20:29.18 | babilen | gooberfoob: That's almost it, to you know the complete chipset? |
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| 20:29.29 | dst_ | nabblet: or apt-cache search <search-term> |
| 20:29.39 | edjix | ....it's only 5 yrs old in a laptop and went through hell, guess i can't complain too much |
| 20:29.51 | jhutchins | edjix: What kind of sounds does it make? Are there any visibly scorched components on the circuit board? |
| 20:30.18 | arven | I just installed a nVidia 9400 GT in a 20-year old Pentium 1 200MHz, and am playing HD videos at full frame rate and less than 50% of the CPU is even used. |
| 20:30.21 | nabblet | dst_: it is installed. i used it all the time... |
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| 20:30.28 | gooberfoob | rtl8188c_8192C_usb_linux_v3.4.4_4749.20120806 |
| 20:30.29 | edjix | jhutchins: it's quiet, and makes vibrations as the one that's good, and can't see any scorched components, no, |
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| 20:30.36 | gooberfoob | is that what you needed ? |
| 20:30.43 | nabblet | dst_: must have got lost today... but i can't recally any odd event that may have caused it |
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| 20:31.43 | gooberfoob | the cd came with a script. i am running the script and waiting to see if it makes it work |
| 20:32.23 | babilen | gooberfoob: Okay, not entirely sure, but it might be enough to simply install the realtek firmware package. If that doesn't work, install the kernel and realtek firmware package from backpotrs |
| 20:32.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell gooberfoob -about realtek firmware |
| 20:32.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell gooberfoob -about bdo kernel |
| 20:33.41 | gooberfoob | tell me what ? |
| 20:34.00 | babilen | gooberfoob: You would essentially run "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install firmware-realtek". I'm sorry, but I have to leave now. I believe that one of these steps will sort you out, but I unfortunately cannot walk you through it further. You would, naturally, have to reload the kernel module in question or reboot. |
| 20:34.19 | gooberfoob | ok thank you |
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| 20:34.26 | babilen | gooberfoob: You should have received a number of private message by out bot, dpkg. Check tabs or windows in your IRC client. |
| 20:34.55 | babilen | Ah, you use the web frontend |
| 20:35.00 | babilen | dpkg: realtek firmware |
| 20:35.01 | dpkg | Firmware from userspace is required by the <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192su>, <r8712u>, <rtl8192ce>, <rtl8192cu>, <rtl8192de> and <rtl8192se> Linux kernel drivers. Firmware patches providing bug fixes for specific Realtek Ethernet controllers are also available. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-realtek package to provide. |
| 20:35.04 | babilen | dpkg bdo kernel |
| 20:35.05 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 20:35.05 | gooberfoob | i see them |
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| 20:35.15 | babilen | Ah, so you do. Great. All the best! |
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| 20:35.30 | babilen | (you can ask the bot about all the things in <…>) |
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| 20:36.55 | nabblet | dpkg: all the things in <...> |
| 20:36.55 | dpkg | nabblet: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 20:37.04 | nabblet | Oo |
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| 20:37.36 | dst_ | funny :) |
| 20:37.40 | gooberfoob | I assume getting the newer kernal for stable will help me ? |
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| 20:37.57 | nabblet | did I just get outwitted by a bot? |
| 20:38.06 | babilen | gooberfoob: firmware is the more important bit, but maybe you need a newer kernel too (and then matching firmware) |
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| 20:38.35 | babilen | nabblet: With regret I have to inform you that that seems to be the case. |
| 20:38.36 | edjix | nabblet: appears so, |
| 20:38.45 | babilen | Anyway, o/ |
| 20:39.14 | dst_ | o/ |
| 20:39.31 | gooberfoob | i need to look up how to install the firmware. Though I did run the script that is on the cd |
| 20:39.35 | nabblet | o/\o *high five* |
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| 20:39.52 | gooberfoob | Should I restart and see if my situation is fixed ? |
| 20:40.35 | dst_ | gooberfoob: have you installed any packages? |
| 20:40.38 | gooberfoob | I did run the apititude backports command |
| 20:40.47 | jhutchins | !rtl8192cu |
| 20:40.47 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8188CUS and RTL8192CU are USB 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192cu) is in mainline since Linux 2.6.39. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware> to provide. Not to be confused with the <rtl8192su> driver. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
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| 20:42.03 | gooberfoob | what exactly did the aptitude backport command do for me ? |
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| 20:42.07 | babilen | gooberfoob: The most important bit is the firmare, not the kernel from backports. Just install realtek-firmware and you are, most likely, sorted out. |
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| 20:43.06 | gooberfoob | I did the backports already and now I am working on the firmware |
| 20:45.07 | gooberfoob | ok i will restart now and see if this helped |
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| 20:46.30 | crontab | hiii |
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| 20:46.45 | crontab | i want to post something with curl but i dont know......... |
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| 20:47.01 | crontab | that i am doing is curl -X POST -d myfile.php url |
| 20:47.15 | crontab | but the problem is that I want to post some values of a form |
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| 20:49.07 | gooberfoob | I am still unable to see wireless |
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| 20:51.01 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: How are you attempting to see it? |
| 20:51.09 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: BTW you really don't need to reboot. |
| 20:51.15 | gooberfoob | i did install wicd |
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| 20:53.14 | arven | The version of mplayer2 in Debian Jessie appears to not function at all on i586. |
| 20:53.50 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: Does ifconfig -a show the wifi device? |
| 20:54.21 | gooberfoob | for some reason it is saying command not found |
| 20:54.23 | jhutchins | arven: Yay! Your use of testing successfully found a problem! |
| 20:54.36 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: As root or /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 20:54.52 | gooberfoob | lawd im a goob |
| 20:55.16 | jhutchins | arven: How does it fail? With what kind of file? Have you tried running it from a console to see what kind of errors it throws? |
| 20:55.19 | gooberfoob | i am not seeing wireless |
| 20:55.23 | arven | jhutchins: I know it's likely a problem with their "new runtime CPU detection" |
| 20:55.31 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: Not even with -a? |
| 20:55.52 | arven | jhutchins: MPEG2, H264, etc. Nothing functions. |
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| 20:56.01 | gooberfoob | no |
| 20:56.17 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: lsusb correctly identifies the device though? |
| 20:56.33 | gooberfoob | command not found for lsusb |
| 20:56.36 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: Does lsmod show the rtl driver? |
| 20:56.45 | arven | jhutchins: mplayer starts up, and catches the error giving a few documents to check and suggests enabling debugging and running in a GDB |
| 20:56.54 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: Pretty much assume any commands I suggest require root. |
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| 20:57.16 | jhutchins | arven: Ah, ok. Well, that's testing. |
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| 20:57.38 | gooberfoob | http://pastebin.com/rPY1b0FH |
| 20:57.43 | gooberfoob | my results |
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| 20:58.17 | arven | jhutchins: Where should I go to report the issue? MPlayer2 directly? |
| 20:58.23 | kmyst | got a question for you experts: is there anything that would cause a system to report time in UTC after a power failure when bios has the correct date/time in local time? |
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| 20:58.58 | mloki | how can I prevent sysvinit to be upgraded to systemd on wheezy? it keep breaking my system |
| 20:58.58 | crontab | hey any one can help me |
| 20:58.59 | crontab | with curl? |
| 20:59.31 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: Interesting, the driver is loaded and associated with other modules. |
| 20:59.39 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: Does iwconfig see the device? |
| 21:00.03 | jhutchins | arven: You might ask in #debian-next on oftc.net. |
| 21:00.33 | jhutchins | kmyst: Is this a dual boot system with windows? |
| 21:00.36 | gooberfoob | results again http://pastebin.com/FnwkGrfr |
| 21:00.41 | kmyst | jhutchins: nope |
| 21:01.03 | arven | jhutchins: mplayer from deb-multimedia.org which is very new works fine, mplayer2 from official debian is what breaks. |
| 21:01.04 | gooberfoob | im not confused why this is not working |
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| 21:01.18 | gooberfoob | like i said before, works in crunchbang, will work here |
| 21:01.30 | crontab | gooberfoob do u know about curl? |
| 21:01.38 | gooberfoob | no ??? |
| 21:01.44 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: I have frequently found wicd fails to see wifi devices, in fact it's almost never worked for me. WHat desktop do you use? |
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| 21:01.55 | arven | jhutchins: I'll try asking there |
| 21:02.10 | gooberfoob | whats the command, nm-applet |
| 21:02.11 | jhutchins | crontab: I would expect your anwers would be found in curl-specific documentation. |
| 21:02.35 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: Yes, but you shouldn't have both network-manager and wicd installed. |
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| 21:02.47 | jhutchins | gooberfoob: In fact, that can cause problems like this. |
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| 21:03.31 | kmyst | jhutchins: basically the system's bios is set to local time/date, ntp does its job correctly but if the system ever suddenly shuts off (power failure) you can turn it back on, bios is still right time/date wise...boot up and the desktop login screen shows time in UTC, drop to a console and date command shows time in UTC but timezone is correct for me which is "odd", login and the clock is updated correctly |
| 21:04.28 | gooberfoob | i just removed wicd |
| 21:04.34 | gooberfoob | what should i do now ? |
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| 21:05.24 | gooberfoob | we have success !!!! |
| 21:05.28 | gooberfoob | it works !!! |
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| 21:05.35 | jhutchins | kmyst: !next |
| 21:05.44 | jhutchins | !next |
| 21:05.44 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 21:05.55 | kmyst | jhutchins: ? |
| 21:06.00 | mloki_0 | how can I prevent sysvinit to be upgraded to systemd on wheezy? already googled but nothing came up. |
| 21:06.09 | jhutchins | kmyst: I would ordinarily suspect that the timezone was set incorrectly, but you say it's not. |
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| 21:06.54 | kmyst | jhutchins: it definitely isn't but if i yank the power i can reproduce said problem every time. |
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| 21:07.40 | lisbeth | how to start dbus in systemd? |
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| 21:08.54 | Extensa5630G | Um, after installing more than 700mb of updates from jessie, the graphical interface is working again with kde 4.12.5 |
| 21:09.17 | kmyst | jhutchins: i suspect something is up since prior to logging into the desktop using date in a virtual console shows time in UTC but timezone isn't UTC it's my local timezone |
| 21:09.38 | lisbeth | Not sure if my message displayed earlier, but currently my dbus daemon is not started and I need to start it |
| 21:09.46 | Extensa5630G | Everything is fine, nevertheless the cube-animation isn't yet working with the virtual desktops' switching |
| 21:10.09 | jhutchins | kmyst: Is the time in the BIOS local? |
| 21:10.17 | kmyst | jhutchins: yes it is |
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| 21:11.06 | kmyst | jhutchins: which just makes no sense to me that UTC gets shown until i login to the desktop and ntp updates the clock |
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| 21:12.49 | kmyst | jhutchins: stands to reason that if bios is correct and you boot the system should boot with the time from the hwclock not adjust it to UTC |
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| 21:17.22 | dimitry7 | Hey guys, your help please. Somebody that could help me diagnose this: http://pastebin.com/prDtUNJ8 |
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| 21:18.30 | jhutchins | kmyst: What I would guess is happening is that the OS thinks the hardware clock is set to UTC on boot, but the GUI knows it's local. |
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| 21:18.39 | TheWarden | Hello |
| 21:18.58 | edjix | dimitry7: what's the issue? |
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| 21:19.30 | jhutchins | kmyst: Have you tried dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, perhaps in rescue mode? |
| 21:19.32 | dimitry7 | edjix, thank you. Okay you'll see, I have a VPN btw host A and B, from host B I can ping A... but when I do ping from |
| 21:19.45 | kmyst | jhutchins: that was my thought but this issue just started happening in the last couple of weeks |
| 21:19.52 | dimitry7 | host A to B, I can see the requests with tcpdump but the server does not send replies :S |
| 21:20.05 | kmyst | jhutchins: yeah i have, a few times actually |
| 21:20.07 | dimitry7 | edjix, routing is OK because I can see host A from B |
| 21:20.19 | edjix | what kind of VPN? |
| 21:20.19 | jhutchins | kmyst: Journaling file systems make us complacent about power losses. |
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| 21:20.24 | dimitry7 | firewall is also right, I have the same config in both |
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| 21:20.31 | kmyst | jhutchins: agreed :) |
| 21:20.33 | dimitry7 | edjix, kind of VPN? |
| 21:20.35 | TheWarden | I'm wanting to cluster two systems, to gain failover and redundancy. The files will be stored on the system itself with Apache HTTPD. Does anyone have any good material I can read up on how to achieve this with Debian? These servers will be accessible via Internet. |
| 21:21.01 | TheWarden | load balancing would be a plus. |
| 21:21.11 | dimitry7 | edjix, site-to-site |
| 21:21.14 | jhutchins | edjix: You're running firewalls on VMs? |
| 21:21.22 | kmyst | jhutchins: this having recently happened is a real big pain in the backside for kerberos and afs tokens though so i'd like to get to the bottom of it |
| 21:21.23 | edjix | dimitry7: there's 2-3 different protocols of VPN's, each of which has different issues and configuration qaulities, i.e. IPSec, |
| 21:21.38 | dimitry7 | edjix, no it is with Open VPN |
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| 21:22.00 | kmyst | jhutchins: i.e. logging in using cached credentials instead of obtaining a fresh token cause of the time skew |
| 21:22.02 | edjix | jhutchins: not me, dimitry7, running a firewall in a VM just...wouldn't make sense, |
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| 21:22.16 | Extensa5630G | what are 'cups'? bearing in mind that i use debian wheezy and that i'm using the newer jessie's packages, (apt-get install package_name) echoes this error everytime that i enter the given command: |
| 21:22.20 | Extensa5630G | Errors were encountered while processing: cups |
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| 21:22.23 | Extensa5630G | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 21:22.25 | Extensa5630G | EOF |
| 21:22.48 | jhutchins | edjix: Unless it was a test configuration for a physical. Still. |
| 21:22.58 | dimitry7 | edjix, http://pastebin.com/F52GpeFR |
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| 21:23.02 | dimitry7 | edjix, that is my config |
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| 21:23.12 | jhutchins | On-system firewalls are a windows concept and not Best Practices for Linux. |
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| 21:23.53 | dimitry7 | jhutchins, what is an On-System Firewall? |
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| 21:24.27 | edjix | dimitry7: okay, that helps. and it'll be a config issue on your server, perms issue, maybe, |
| 21:24.37 | gooberfoob | anyone ever use the smxi script ? |
| 21:24.49 | dimitry7 | edjix, okay I have set up an identical VPN... and it works both sides |
| 21:24.57 | dimitry7 | edjix, trust me it isn't a firewall issue |
| 21:25.02 | dimitry7 | nor a permissions issue |
| 21:25.22 | dimitry7 | edjix, it is receiving the request... |
| 21:25.30 | edjix | what's your logs on the site not responding say? |
| 21:25.32 | dimitry7 | but can't reply it is the only server it is not replying to |
| 21:25.38 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: CUPS is the Common Unix Printing System. |
| 21:25.42 | dimitry7 | edjix, logs of ping? |
| 21:25.50 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: Which release are you running? |
| 21:25.51 | edjix | dmesg, i'd imagine |
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| 21:25.57 | dimitry7 | edjix, let me check |
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| 21:26.06 | edjix | dmesg | tail, maybe |
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| 21:26.15 | dimitry7 | [163738.616192] device tun0 entered promiscuous mode |
| 21:26.17 | dimitry7 | [163754.484022] device tun0 left promiscuous mode |
| 21:26.17 | dimitry7 | that :-S |
| 21:26.30 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: i use debian wheezy kde, and i'm using the jessie's packages so that i got the newer kde 4.12.5, that has a better graphical performance |
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| 21:27.04 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: If you're running a mixed wheezy/jessie system that adequately explains your problem. |
| 21:27.24 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: sources.list only points to jessie |
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| 21:27.43 | edjix | why does it need promiscuous mode? |
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| 21:27.52 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: Doesn't matter if you have packages from multiple releases. |
| 21:28.15 | dimitry7 | edjix, I don't know why it is on promiscous mode :-S |
| 21:28.19 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: then i only can use jessie, if the entire distro is jessie after all? |
| 21:28.35 | jhutchins | !frankendebian |
| 21:28.36 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 21:28.38 | Extensa5630G | *can use jessie's packages |
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| 21:28.56 | edjix | once again...points to config... |
| 21:29.30 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: Your system needs to be all one release or the other. |
| 21:29.52 | edjix | but not sure where, openvpn runs on every platform i know of, and different config ways for each, also, look into ipsec, open vpn is an always-on connection for the duration of the connection, making it less secure |
| 21:30.01 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: so i have to wait for the coming out of jessie?otherwise is there a source that i can get it from? |
| 21:30.10 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: Given that you already have problems with dpkg though, it might be too late to fix it without a clean install. |
| 21:30.11 | dimitry7 | edjix, okay I will tell you this, it is not a matter of VPN or IPtables: I have two anthenas of radiofrecuency... both pointing to networks 11.0/24 and 12.0/24 |
| 21:30.29 | dimitry7 | one on each side... and i Don't need VPN for that... |
| 21:30.33 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: I doubt KDE will be backported. |
| 21:30.34 | dimitry7 | I bring down my firewalls. |
| 21:30.42 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: clean install=entire install of the OS? |
| 21:30.51 | dimitry7 | and I can only ping 11.0/24 from 12.0/24 but not viceversa :-S |
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| 21:31.39 | dimitry7 | edjix, openvpn is not an issue because from the Anthenas it is not responding either |
| 21:31.43 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: Correct. |
| 21:32.12 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: You can try to complete the full upgrade to jessie, but since things are already broken that might not work. |
| 21:32.13 | dimitry7 | edjix, IPtables either because I bring them down when working "locally" with both anthenas |
| 21:32.15 | edjix | then why did you add the vpn part into it? now you have a completely different issue, |
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| 21:32.37 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: I see. |
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| 21:32.52 | jhutchins | dimitry7: anthena is not an English word. Antenna? |
| 21:32.54 | dimitry7 | edjix, well... yes. I can bring VPN down |
| 21:33.06 | dimitry7 | jhutchins, okay thanks, Antenna |
| 21:33.18 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: after reinstalling debian wheezy kde, how to update it to jessie entirely? |
| 21:33.44 | dimitry7 | edjix, let me redo that with the Antenna |
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| 21:35.23 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie |
| 21:35.24 | edjix | dimitry7: now we have to talk about network topology and a whole bunch of other components, like if ICMP is allowed/blocked, addressing, the like, and rf stuff, that's something that's a whole discussion on it's own, |
| 21:35.36 | jhutchins | Extensa5630G: I wouldn't try downgrading KDE first. |
| 21:35.41 | edjix | dimitry7: including radio theory which I do not know about enough to help, |
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| 21:36.41 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: my purpose was mainly to upgrade kde :S |
| 21:36.53 | Extensa5630G | jhutchins: like the one found in fedora 20 |
| 21:37.37 | dimitry7 | edjix, okay here we go: http://pastebin.com/fzkC8x3d |
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| 21:38.29 | dimitry7 | edjix, I have eth2 on server A (consorcio) having 192.168.0.1. And eth2 on server B (brownsville) having 192.168.0.2 |
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| 21:39.02 | dimitry7 | edjix, those are linked through the antennas, I can ping 0.1 from 0.2 and viceversa... in the routing table you can see that |
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| 21:40.01 | dimitry7 | I cam routing traffic from 12.0/24 to 11.0/24 through the gateway (the one who knows where to send the packets) ... and I can see the server (11.254) and the rest of the LAN... EX 11.158 |
| 21:40.04 | edjix | dimitry7: try setting up a gateway for the 192.168.12/24 network, |
| 21:40.08 | edjix | only issue i see |
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| 21:40.34 | dimitry7 | from 11.254 to 12.0/24 I can only see the server... 12.254... but not the host from the LAN, which is UP |
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| 21:40.52 | dimitry7 | edjix, the gateway is this one |
| 21:41.35 | edjix | 192.168.12.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 21:41.59 | edjix | oh well, i'm being beckoned, i'll check back later |
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| 21:42.49 | dimitry7 | edjix, yes that is local... and guess what?? if I do tcpdump on 12.254 pinging to 12.254 from 11.254... I can see requests and replies |
| 21:43.14 | dimitry7 | edjix, but pinng 12.2 (the host) from 11.254... I cannot even see the request.!!!! :'( |
| 21:43.27 | dimitry7 | edjix, I really wanna cry this makes no sense at all!!! |
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| 21:44.34 | dimitry7 | sniffing 12.254 and 12.2 respectively on each test. |
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| 21:45.01 | gooberfoob | I was running smxi script, and i found I was missing linux-header-3.14-0bps.l-amd64 |
| 21:45.05 | gooberfoob | i think i typed that right |
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| 21:45.13 | dimitry7 | edjix, firewalls are down! |
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| 21:46.35 | dimitry7 | edjix, but pinging to 11.158 from 12.254.... I can see th echo and replies with tcp dump |
| 21:47.26 | dimitry7 | edjix, I have tried with two VPNs, one throught the radios, one though the Internet links |
| 21:47.49 | dimitry7 | edjix, and one test with NO VPN at all, no Firewalls in the middel... and I still can only see one side.... |
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| 21:55.29 | gooberfoob | how do i install linux-headers-3.14-o.bps.l-amd64 |
| 21:55.36 | gooberfoob | *kernel |
| 21:55.55 | tharkun | Which one of this two vpn solutions are less resource intensive strongswan or openvpn? |
| 21:56.07 | tharkun | !tell gooberfoob bps |
| 21:56.23 | gooberfoob | what ? |
| 21:56.24 | tharkun | !tell gooberfoob -about bps |
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| 21:56.43 | gooberfoob | what are you trying to tell me ? |
| 21:57.02 | tharkun | !backports |
| 21:57.02 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 21:57.05 | tharkun | ^^ |
| 21:57.17 | tharkun | Just got the key mixed Sorry |
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| 21:58.21 | gooberfoob | im lost |
| 21:59.09 | gooberfoob | i was using the smxi script, and i was trying to install my video drivers and i got an error saying I needed that header |
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| 21:59.31 | gooberfoob | *kernel header and i am confused how to obtain it |
| 21:59.35 | kevinfish | what package has X's standard serverside fonts? |
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| 22:00.18 | tharkun | gooberfoob: I got the idea you had a backports kernel, but then it doesn't make sense now. |
| 22:00.28 | tharkun | uname -a |
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| 22:04.06 | phy1729 | anyonw know either which package gsleep is in or how to sleep on the CLI for fractional seconds? |
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| 22:05.12 | gooberfoob | somebody had me install a backport kernel earlier |
| 22:05.14 | gooberfoob | how do i check that |
| 22:05.24 | gooberfoob | would that be the reason i am having issues ? |
| 22:06.16 | tharkun | gooberfoob: Check your /etc/apt/sources.list for the bpo lines. If so just look for the package and install it. |
| 22:07.14 | gooberfoob | ok for some reason my source list didnt get update. |
| 22:07.21 | gooberfoob | can someone send me what my sourcelist should be |
| 22:07.23 | gooberfoob | im a good |
| 22:07.26 | gooberfoob | *im a goob |
| 22:07.48 | tharkun | !bpo |
| 22:07.48 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 22:07.54 | camel|notsmart | ## DEBIAN |
| 22:07.56 | camel|notsmart | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 22:07.58 | camel|notsmart | # deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 22:08.00 | camel|notsmart | ## DEBIAN SECURITY |
| 22:08.02 | camel|notsmart | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 22:08.04 | camel|notsmart | # deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 22:08.06 | camel|notsmart | is mine |
| 22:08.19 | camel|notsmart | buut I'm on crunchbang, which I didn't paste there, so yours *might* be different, I'm tracking deb stable |
| 22:08.37 | gooberfoob | yeah im using debain wheezy stable |
| 22:08.40 | gooberfoob | 7.5 |
| 22:08.48 | camel|notsmart | then what I posted should be correct for you |
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| 22:08.51 | Brigo | !paste |
| 22:08.51 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:08.55 | camel|notsmart | s/posted/pasted |
| 22:08.59 | camel|notsmart | Oh |
| 22:09.00 | camel|notsmart | Sorry |
| 22:09.02 | camel|notsmart | :x |
| 22:09.13 | gooberfoob | can you pastbin your sourcelist ? |
| 22:09.17 | Brigo | !tell camel|notsmart about crunchbang |
| 22:09.25 | gooberfoob | so I can just copy and past easyly |
| 22:09.34 | ctmjr | gooberfoob: it would be a lot easier if you paste your sources list then someone in the channel can tell you if they are correct |
| 22:09.41 | camel|notsmart | I can but it's going to have a crunchbang and weechat entry which you should ignore |
| 22:09.48 | camel|notsmart | ^ |
| 22:09.49 | camel|notsmart | do that instead |
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| 22:10.09 | Brigo | tell gooberfoob about paste |
| 22:10.38 | gooberfoob | here is my sourcelist http://pastebin.com/n6KSjyUt |
| 22:11.06 | camel|notsmart | Sorry Brigo. crunchbang == debain for *most* intents and purposes so other than the one crunchbang repo most things should be identical |
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| 22:11.46 | gooberfoob | This is almost making me want to go back to crunchbang, it has everything set up |
| 22:12.10 | Brigo | camel|notsmart, did you see the line talking about " It is not supported in #debian."? |
| 22:12.31 | Brigo | camel|notsmart, that is not me, but #debian politics |
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| 22:12.52 | gooberfoob | this is frustrating... |
| 22:13.29 | gooberfoob | now i am trying to get my sound to work...and get my nvidia driver to be installed |
| 22:13.50 | camel|notsmart | Brigo: totally understandable. CB is just debian stable with a custom repo and default programs on top, but I do understand the policy and why it's there. |
| 22:14.07 | camel|notsmart | So again, sorry for breaking the rules :x |
| 22:14.33 | Brigo | camel|notsmart, no problem, i am only telling you. :) |
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| 22:14.39 | camel|notsmart | :) |
| 22:15.18 | dimitry7 | Im wrecked |
| 22:15.23 | ctmjr | gooberfoob: read this about your sources list you need to add a couple lines https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
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| 22:16.16 | camel|notsmart | gooberfoob: maybe find a vanilla sources.list, replace yours with that, apt-get update and upgrade, apt-get autoremove to be sure, then move forward from there |
| 22:16.36 | camel|notsmart | and also ctmjr's link |
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| 22:17.09 | ctmjr | gooberfoob: and what is the output of uname -r |
| 22:18.31 | gooberfoob | 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 22:18.50 | gooberfoob | and i cant even apt-get geany |
| 22:18.57 | gooberfoob | so something is wrong with my sourcelist |
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| 22:19.09 | mtn | gooberfoob: and you have been told how to fix it, too |
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| 22:19.26 | gooberfoob | does not mean i understand how to do that |
| 22:19.44 | mtn | gooberfoob: really?: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
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| 22:22.58 | ctmjr | gooberfoob: you have a backport kernel yet no backports in your sources list so you did something, and that "smxi" script is not supported here |
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| 22:23.30 | ctmjr | to late |
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| 22:27.13 | Slumlord_ | hi does anybody know if there's a fix for the flickering in debian linux wheezy when i maximize my screen watching the news it flickers with adobe flash |
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| 22:27.39 | Slumlord_ | using iceweasel browser |
| 22:27.45 | teh3ck | hi i am on debian 6.0.9 |
| 22:27.55 | teh3ck | do you recommend to upgrade to 7.5? |
| 22:28.32 | edjix | never tried 6.0.9, but using 7.5, and having better luck with it than any other distro around, |
| 22:28.43 | edjix | ...putting crunchbag into a vm now, seeing what it does, |
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| 22:30.10 | dimitry7 | edjix, |
| 22:30.20 | teh3ck | maybe i should upgrade |
| 22:30.20 | dimitry7 | DNS is the issue |
| 22:30.43 | dimitry7 | edjix, when I ping, it translates the addresses to an old reverse zone that was there |
| 22:30.53 | dimitry7 | how can I stop ping from translating IPs to Names??? |
| 22:31.07 | dimitry7 | edjix, Internally it does it! |
| 22:31.14 | sympto_ | where is an up-to date tutorial for grsec patching? |
| 22:31.19 | ctmjr | teh3ck: you do not have to as squeeze is lts if you want to keep it awhile |
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| 22:31.47 | teh3ck | ctmjr i didn't understand you |
| 22:31.49 | ctmjr | dpkg: tell teh3ck about lts |
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| 22:33.25 | teh3ck | ctmjr if i update from 6.0.9 to 7.5 will i have any problems with broken packages etc ? |
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