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| 00:05.32 | XYZAFFA1R | Im trying to install 3.12 (Kernel) and I get this: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
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| 00:06.15 | abrotman | paste.debian.net |
| 00:06.30 | XYZAFFA1R | abortman, the entire output? |
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| 00:07.13 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman, http://sprunge.us/ZfLb |
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| 00:08.05 | abrotman | paste.debian.net |
| 00:08.23 | XYZAFFA1R | Is it so important that I use that instead of sprunge? |
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| 00:09.38 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/108629/ |
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| 00:10.41 | abrotman | so you didn't actually follow instructions |
| 00:10.48 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman? |
| 00:10.56 | abrotman | dpkg: tell XYZAFFA1R about bpo kernel |
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| 00:11.28 | XYZAFFA1R | Oh, I know what I did wrong I think |
| 00:11.40 | XYZAFFA1R | apt-get -t squeeze-backports install "package" |
| 00:12.10 | abrotman | ugh .. |
| 00:12.12 | abrotman | gives up |
| 00:13.03 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman, well maybe I'm missing something |
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| 00:13.35 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: what does squeeze have to do with it? Maybe you should slow down and read the instructions more carefully |
| 00:13.47 | abrotman | or at all ... |
| 00:14.10 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught, I read through them |
| 00:14.35 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught, its under "Install a package from backports" |
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| 00:15.02 | XYZAFFA1R | I added them to my sources list |
| 00:15.04 | XYZAFFA1R | I ran update |
| 00:15.07 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: yeah, but did you add squeeze-backports or wheezy-backports? |
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| 00:15.17 | XYZAFFA1R | wheezy |
| 00:15.50 | XYZAFFA1R | Ok so I change it to wheezy |
| 00:16.12 | XYZAFFA1R | Its installing now |
| 00:16.13 | XYZAFFA1R | Thank you |
| 00:16.17 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: right. and the dpkg factoid is telling you to install a kernel meta-package, not a specific one |
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| 00:16.53 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught, oh. |
| 00:16.59 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught, its a little late |
| 00:17.37 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: well next time maybe go a little slower and read instructions more carefully... |
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| 00:18.12 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught, I read the instructions here: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel |
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| 00:18.55 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: did you use "apt-get install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-amd64" ? |
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| 00:20.16 | XYZAFFA1R | root@Sawyer:/home/wolfgang# apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 |
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| 00:20.39 | XYZAFFA1R | IM so sorry |
| 00:20.45 | XYZAFFA1R | I didnt mean to paste that more than once |
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| 00:22.30 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: well i'm not sure where you got the idea to install a specific version like that. If you wanted the the RT kernel, you could have used the linux-image-rt-amd64 package (which would make sure you always get the newest kernel updates). Most people don't use the RT kernel unless they have a specific reason though |
| 00:22.54 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught, I didnt realise |
| 00:23.29 | XYZAFFA1R | What Do I do about that? |
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| 00:24.43 | jmcnaught | !tell XYZAFFA1R -about bdo kernel |
| 00:25.25 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: try the command dpkg is suggesting... if you're curious about the `uname...` business, try running that part separately to see what it does |
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| 00:29.28 | XYZAFFA1R | Should I install the current backport image? |
| 00:29.37 | XYZAFFA1R | *kernel |
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| 00:29.55 | XYZAFFA1R | jcmnaught, ^^ |
| 00:29.57 | XYZAFFA1R | What |
| 00:30.15 | XYZAFFA1R | Nevermind |
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| 00:37.22 | Haikarainen | Is there a free/open debian repository you can upload your debs on? I've created a deb that I want to put on a repo, but I dont have the resources to host my own repository .. |
| 00:37.35 | XYZAFFA1R | jcmnaught, so I didnt restart or anything I just ran: root@Sawyer:/home/wolfgang# aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` |
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| 00:37.51 | XYZAFFA1R | Do you think that installed the correct one? |
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| 00:40.21 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: it would help if you put the output on http://paste.debian.net... also you're getting my nick wrong so when i'm in another channel i'm not getting notified that you're addressing me. You can probably use <TAB> for nick completion |
| 00:40.38 | Haikarainen | What is the easiest way to release a .deb in to the fields of debian users? |
| 00:40.41 | XYZAFFA1R | ok thanks |
| 00:41.24 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Haikarainen about nmg |
| 00:41.31 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Haikarainen about mentors |
| 00:41.40 | Haikarainen | dkpg: tell me something! |
| 00:42.09 | dragon_ | Hello, is it "normal" to wait 15 sec. when i connect to a server ssh? |
| 00:42.11 | Haikarainen | oh he /msg'd me |
| 00:42.11 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/108632/ |
| 00:42.30 | dragon_ | Does someone know why it happen |
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| 00:42.47 | abrotman | dragon_: typically RDNS lookups |
| 00:43.41 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: looks like it was done properly to me |
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| 00:43.49 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught, Ok thanks |
| 00:43.50 | dragon_ | ok, thanks probably because i am trying to filter snmp protocole. |
| 00:43.58 | Haikarainen | abrotman: I'm not that interested in debian packages.. All I want to do is release my program for debian users (who are not comfy with git clones), I've tampered for like 2 hours getting a deb together that's working nicely, I'm just asking what the best medium would be for me to release it into.. |
| 00:44.00 | dragon_ | udp 53 |
| 00:44.23 | Haikarainen | fwiv I'm an experienced debian user, never created packages though.. |
| 00:44.25 | XYZAFFA1R | Also uname -a output: Linux Sawyer 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 00:44.34 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught: Above |
| 00:44.55 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: did you reboot yet? |
| 00:44.59 | XYZAFFA1R | No |
| 00:45.09 | XYZAFFA1R | Doesnt that say what kernel I will have |
| 00:45.12 | XYZAFFA1R | when I reboot/ |
| 00:45.13 | XYZAFFA1R | ? |
| 00:45.18 | abrotman | Haikarainen: really, a debian package |
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| 00:45.32 | abrotman | Haikarainen: or file an RFP, and link to your own sutff |
| 00:45.33 | abrotman | stuff |
| 00:45.42 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: uname tells you about currently running kernel |
| 00:45.47 | XYZAFFA1R | Oh, ok |
| 00:45.48 | XYZAFFA1R | Thank you |
| 00:45.53 | XYZAFFA1R | Im going to reboot now |
| 00:45.58 | XYZAFFA1R | Bye thanks |
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| 00:46.12 | Haikarainen | abrotman: but I have a debian package.. should I just host it and link to it? What's an RFP? Request for package? |
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| 00:46.45 | abrotman | Haikarainen: if you have a package, then ask the mentors to inspect it, ask for a sponsor, get it into Debian |
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| 00:49.02 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught: Well, it updated correctly |
| 00:49.18 | XYZAFFA1R | and my sounds is fixed |
| 00:49.24 | XYZAFFA1R | Thank you for your help |
| 00:49.32 | XYZAFFA1R | And thank you every one else who helped me earlier |
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| 00:53.17 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: glad you got it working :) |
| 00:53.47 | XYZAFFA1R | can I get libc6 2.15 from backports? |
| 00:54.02 | XYZAFFA1R | Because it seems its at 2.13 there as well |
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| 00:54.50 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught: Above |
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| 00:57.25 | abrotman | XYZAFFA1R: no |
| 00:58.07 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman: Is there any way to get it then? |
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| 00:59.09 | Guest75474 | test |
| 01:00.52 | Slumlord_ | test success |
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| 01:01.20 | abrotman | XYZAFFA1R: what are you really trying to install? |
| 01:01.35 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman, compton |
| 01:02.18 | test4958tk | test |
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| 01:03.38 | test4958tk_ | test |
| 01:03.44 | abrotman | stop that |
| 01:03.55 | Slumlord_ | yeah |
| 01:03.57 | XYZAFFA1R | Why do they keep saying test |
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| 01:04.01 | abrotman | XYZAFFA1R: probably not .. maybe compile it from source? |
| 01:04.15 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman, libc6 or compton? |
| 01:04.21 | abrotman | compton .. not libc6 |
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| 01:04.25 | XYZAFFA1R | ok |
| 01:04.36 | abrotman | XYZAFFA1R: there are other compositing window managers in Stable |
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| 01:05.40 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman: What do you recommend over compton? |
| 01:05.52 | abrotman | why do you think you need it? |
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| 01:06.39 | XYZAFFA1R | abrotman: Stuff like transparency. |
| 01:06.46 | abrotman | stuff like .. okay |
| 01:07.01 | abrotman | a) you don't need it for that b) that's not a need .. good luck |
| 01:07.38 | XYZAFFA1R | I didnt say I needed it |
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| 01:08.00 | XYZAFFA1R | I would like it |
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| 01:13.22 | jmcnaught | XYZAFFA1R: gnome-shell does transparency and stuff :) |
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| 01:14.05 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught: But I'm not using gnome shell. |
| 01:14.29 | XYZAFFA1R | jmcnaught: Low end computer, my games don't run well if I have a full DE. |
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| 01:22.24 | XYZAFFA1R | What ever I will just use unagi for now |
| 01:22.34 | XYZAFFA1R | Thank you every one who has helped me, im leaving |
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| 01:31.15 | snadge | smokeping package on wheezy, is giving me an error #011- unix dgram connect: Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Smokeping.pm line 3727 |
| 01:31.36 | snadge | so obviously it doesn't have permission to write to syslog.. im just wondering what the proper way to fix that is |
| 01:31.49 | snadge | ahh that will be my firewall |
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| 01:58.37 | wilfredor | hi |
| 01:58.56 | wilfredor | I have a problem with ssh transfer protocol |
| 01:59.29 | wilfredor | start fast 1,5 MB/s but in 2 min speed change to 10 Kb/s |
| 01:59.36 | wilfredor | someone could help me? |
| 01:59.42 | wilfredor | I have UseDNS no |
| 01:59.44 | wilfredor | and |
| 01:59.51 | wilfredor | some idea? |
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| 02:13.19 | rdlrn | greetings |
| 02:14.00 | rdlrn | I am trying to install debian on my pc, it needs ralink firmware for the wireless to work properly. it says it needs the rt2860.bin file in a removable media |
| 02:14.51 | rdlrn | I have downloaded the file and tried putting the whole tar.gz the single .bin file and the unpackaged folder onto a usb stick and it will not read the media |
| 02:15.12 | rdlrn | any ideas on what to do? |
| 02:15.46 | jmcnaught | rdlrn: the instructions on how to do this are here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en but you might try using the unofficial firmware netinst iso |
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| 02:16.03 | jmcnaught | !firmware image |
| 02:16.03 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 02:16.06 | avshalom | hi all, n00b question: ubuntu has PPA's, but what might one call the analagous debian third party repo? |
| 02:16.28 | avshalom | (for purposes of googling, thanks) |
| 02:17.00 | yule | avshalom: there's no 100% alternative |
| 02:17.03 | jmcnaught | avshalom: there are third party repositories, but they generally aren't recommended or supported here. Is there a particular package you're trying to find? |
| 02:17.38 | avshalom | yule: thanks for reply. jmcnaught: i am thinking of installing R from the CRAN repos |
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| 02:18.21 | rdlrn | thanks jmcnaught i think the netinstall iso is the best bet... the wiki does not give much info on what to do if the installer does not see the extra usb stick |
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| 02:19.21 | jmcnaught | avshalom: is the version of R in Wheezy not sufficient? |
| 02:19.39 | yule | avshalom: I assume the version in wheezy is too old for you? debian unstable has 3.1.0, you could backport that |
| 02:19.56 | avshalom | heck, i'm on jessie, its probably fine. irrational desire to have latest and greatest |
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| 02:21.01 | yule | avshalom: CRAN advertises 3.1.0 as the latest stable release as well, so that seems pretty much up-to-date |
| 02:21.32 | avshalom | yeah, i do stats for a living, so this is one package that i would like to stay cutting edge with |
| 02:22.06 | yule | avshalom: then you might want to look into backports, apt-pinning etc when a new release comes out |
| 02:22.13 | avshalom | in the past i have installed the debian version from apt-get, then uninstalled it, leaving dependencies, then it is a peice of cake to compile from source. (or just put ahead in path) |
| 02:22.59 | avshalom | well, i am pleased to report a successfull install of testing on my macbook air |
| 02:23.22 | avshalom | can't say it was easy, had to do wheezy first, to work around a jessie install issue |
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| 02:23.45 | jmcnaught | well jessie isn't exactly finished... |
| 02:23.49 | yule | avshalom: which MBA exactly? |
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| 02:24.08 | avshalom | yule: 5,1 GNOME 3 is quite nice. I'm glad that I missed the angst surrounding its development |
| 02:24.50 | avshalom | actually, fairness in reporting -- i still need a reFIND on an external USB to boot it. |
| 02:25.31 | avshalom | that really ticks me off -- i had read about GRUB BIOS, but couldn't see where to do this in the isntaller program.. it just did efi without asking |
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| 02:27.00 | avshalom | (anyway, I am an anti-Apple person who happens to have Mac hardware with a lot of life left in it) |
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| 02:29.23 | avshalom | i dig the gcc 4.9 in debian jessie. |
| 02:29.37 | dvs | not 4.10? |
| 02:30.12 | zinx | i like the clang 3.5 myself |
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| 02:49.12 | IZ4NIDOMP4IN | pwd |
| 02:49.24 | dvs | ??? |
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| 02:49.32 | dvs | /home/debian |
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| 02:55.26 | zykotick9 | dvs: more like Freenode/#debian ;) |
| 02:55.34 | dvs | heh |
| 02:55.50 | cyclick | Can I search the log history of this channel somewhere? |
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| 02:57.56 | zykotick9 | !tell cyclick about irclog |
| 02:58.24 | cyclick | thanks zykotick9 |
| 03:00.03 | cyclick | so I need to download all to search? |
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| 03:04.15 | cyclick | this command appears to do it: wget -r -H --level=1 http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/ |
| 03:08.41 | shay_shay | Hai |
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| 03:32.59 | rue_mohr2 | damn, wodim cant write cd's anymore and my dvd download bailed |
| 03:33.09 | rue_mohr2 | try a 4G download again... |
| 03:33.47 | Shadow_7 | rue_mohr2: wget -c ? |
| 03:33.58 | rue_mohr2 | I did it http |
| 03:34.00 | rue_mohr2 | :( |
| 03:34.03 | dalias | http has -c |
| 03:34.19 | Shadow_7 | wget -c http://...... the -c stands for continue... although depends on server side support |
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| 03:34.25 | rue_mohr2 | icewe4asol seems to have delelted the .part |
| 03:34.33 | dalias | .... |
| 03:34.42 | dalias | using a browser for a 4gb download? :( |
| 03:34.53 | rue_mohr2 | all I want it the netinstall cd |
| 03:35.11 | rue_mohr2 | but wondim has a bug where it says medium not found |
| 03:35.14 | Shadow_7 | which is 210mb for debian |
| 03:35.27 | rue_mohr2 | so I can use it to write dvd's but not cd's |
| 03:36.08 | Shadow_7 | rue_mohr2: are you sure it's not the medium? I've had a few *dr's that were so lightly coated they were almost transparent |
| 03:36.34 | Shadow_7 | rue_mohr2: depending on the age of the drive... very old ones could only burn 650MB discs |
| 03:36.37 | rue_mohr2 | I tried 6 blanks of different brands on 3 different machines |
| 03:37.08 | rue_mohr2 | it seems to be that there must be a bug in the new version of wodim that makes it unable to write cd's |
| 03:37.11 | Shadow_7 | and very old players (like the one in my car) can only play 650mb discss |
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| 03:37.40 | rue_mohr2 | it dosn't start to write the cd, it says medium not found |
| 03:38.03 | Shadow_7 | audio or data? |
| 03:38.14 | rue_mohr2 | were talking about a debian netinstall cd |
| 03:38.17 | rue_mohr2 | so data |
| 03:38.40 | Shadow_7 | full sized disc? or business card size? |
| 03:39.02 | rue_mohr2 | I'v giving it a full size disk, it says medium nto found and dons't even start the write |
| 03:39.15 | Shadow_7 | and dmesg indicators? |
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| 03:39.23 | rue_mohr2 | 3 ea of 2 brands of disks across 3 drives in different computers |
| 03:39.29 | rue_mohr2 | nothing in dmesg |
| 03:39.46 | rue_mohr2 | I can do a dvd just fine |
| 03:39.48 | Shadow_7 | seemed to recall a --dvd-compat that became mandatory once blurays came out |
| 03:39.49 | rue_mohr2 | not cd's |
| 03:40.00 | Shadow_7 | might be a --cd variant? |
| 03:40.22 | rue_mohr2 | is there a --cd option thats needed for cd's in wodim currently? |
| 03:40.40 | rue_mohr2 | wodim has no --cd option |
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| 03:41.43 | Shadow_7 | when I used to burn discs, I'd use growisofs |
| 03:42.05 | rue_mohr2 | to make the image or write the disk? |
| 03:42.37 | Shadow_7 | yes... both... home made dvd's and such (video) |
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| 03:42.57 | Shadow_7 | a tediously annoying process in linux, but possible. |
| 03:43.12 | Shadow_7 | at least if you want menus and sub menus |
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| 03:44.21 | rue_mohr2 | data disk, data disk |
| 03:44.58 | rue_mohr2 | I want to install debian (crazy me) on a machine that cant boot usb (crazy me) and I dont want to install the live version (crazy me) |
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| 03:45.54 | Shadow_7 | rue_mohr2: you can install via debootstrap on a different machine or live disc |
| 03:46.35 | rue_mohr2 | oooo I didn't think of using a netboot |
| 03:46.45 | Shadow_7 | you'll still need a grub boot cd or plop disc to transfer control of optical boot to usb |
| 03:47.02 | rue_mohr2 | could I use knoppix? |
| 03:47.05 | Shadow_7 | debootstrap lets you do a chroot install |
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| 03:47.34 | rue_mohr2 | how does one debootstrap? |
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| 03:47.41 | Shadow_7 | just need the debootstrap.udeb and ar (binutils) and debootstrap on the host system |
| 03:48.03 | Shadow_7 | the udeb is on the netinstall iso which you can mount -o loop -t iso9660 |
| 03:48.13 | rue_mohr2 | ok |
| 03:48.22 | rue_mohr2 | and I can copy everything to a usb drive |
| 03:48.38 | rue_mohr2 | and if I still have a working knoppix disk I can boot with that |
| 03:48.52 | Shadow_7 | you mkfs the destination(s) and then apply the install to a mount point |
| 03:49.03 | Shadow_7 | rue_mohr2: yes... |
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| 03:49.28 | Shadow_7 | rue_mohr2: although versioning might be problematic and you need a 64 bit kernel to chroot to a 64 bit install |
| 03:49.49 | Shadow_7 | although probably not a 64 bit system if you can't boot usb |
| 03:49.58 | rue_mohr2 | I'm 32 bit all the way |
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| 03:50.32 | rue_mohr2 | the debootstrap package in on the netinstall cd |
| 03:50.44 | rue_mohr2 | I install it within knoppix and then run it? |
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| 03:51.04 | Shadow_7 | yes... under /pool/main/dist/d/deboo.... |
| 03:52.12 | Shadow_7 | rue_mohr2: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 03:52.17 | designs | is the best way for me to upgrade from gome 3.4(debian stable) to a more recent version of gnome, is to upgrade to debian testing? |
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| 03:52.36 | Shadow_7 | that's the guide... but missing a few admin bits needed for a useful system. Like setting the root password so you can login |
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| 03:53.10 | Shadow_7 | designs: or compile from sources if that's "all" you want to do. |
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| 03:53.49 | Shadow_7 | depends on your strengths. going testing is probably the simpler and less problematic route |
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| 03:54.27 | garn32 | anyone here have experience with bumblebee? I've hit a bit of a wall with getting it working |
| 03:54.27 | Shadow_7 | and you probably want a kernel > 3.2.x and glibc > 2.13 for anything graphically orientated |
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| 04:11.46 | NeilHanlon | This is going to sound incredibly odd, so please don't tell me I'm doing it wrong (though it's okay if it's not possible) |
| 04:12.45 | NeilHanlon | I have a new comcast modem/router, which is serving DHCP on 10.0.0.0/8, and plugged into that, is my router serving 192.168.1.0/24, and also a computer running debian (10.0.0.4) |
| 04:13.03 | NeilHanlon | Is there a way to get the debian box to be able to communicate with the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet? |
| 04:13.44 | Shadow_7 | NeilHanlon: what are you looking at as far as connection options? |
| 04:14.07 | NeilHanlon | Shadow_7: I'm not sure what you're asking |
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| 04:14.30 | dalias | you can plug your debian box into both routers.... |
| 04:14.33 | Shadow_7 | Like does the first line of computers on the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet have multiple NICs? |
| 04:14.51 | dalias | but yes, my first reaction is "that's stupid" :-) |
| 04:14.54 | dalias | one nat is bad enough |
| 04:14.56 | dalias | two is even worse |
| 04:15.04 | NeilHanlon | dalias: I know. :P |
| 04:15.14 | NeilHanlon | port forwarding is already a pain |
| 04:15.23 | NeilHanlon | So this is at my home (obviously) |
| 04:15.54 | frostschutz | just add a 192.168.x.x ip to the debian box? |
| 04:15.55 | NeilHanlon | the comcast router/modem has a wifi router, but I'm not using it. And the clients connected to the 192.x subnet are wireless |
| 04:15.58 | dalias | if you replaced the router serving 192.168.1.0 with your debian system... |
| 04:15.59 | Shadow_7 | is the 10.0.x.x network that new comcast "public" access points that you're paying the power bill on? |
| 04:16.09 | dalias | then it could do the second level of nat |
| 04:16.18 | NeilHanlon | Shadow_7: no. it's a dedicated modem/router |
| 04:16.24 | NeilHanlon | I can configure it |
| 04:16.31 | dalias | neilhanlon, can you just put the wifi router in bridge mode? |
| 04:17.17 | Shadow_7 | you can avoid nat-ing with bridging. |
| 04:17.44 | NeilHanlon | I don't think I can bridge it. |
| 04:18.07 | dalias | why not? |
| 04:18.14 | Shadow_7 | although doing that for wifi to ethernet seemed to have broke for me sometime between 2.6.32 and 2.6.34 |
| 04:18.18 | dalias | here's how i do bridging with wifi routers: |
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| 04:18.40 | dalias | turn off the dhcp server in the wifi router, and just don't use the uplink port (plug everything including the uplink into downlink ports) |
| 04:19.34 | frostschutz | NeilHanlon, can't you just add the ip? if it's plugged in, and both switch, it should work... |
| 04:20.37 | NeilHanlon | frostschutz: Only one NIC on the box |
| 04:20.42 | NeilHanlon | It's a raspberry pi |
| 04:20.44 | NeilHanlon | lol |
| 04:20.48 | Shadow_7 | NeilHanlon: is it some form of PPPoE connection and requires "their" router? |
| 04:20.57 | frostschutz | NeilHanlon, a nic can have any number of ips. ip addr add 192.168.1.42/24 dev eth0 |
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| 04:21.57 | Shadow_7 | I'm irc-ing from my raspberry pi under debian jessie - armel |
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| 04:22.40 | Shadow_7 | there are usb -> eth devices too besides just usb -> wifi ones. |
| 04:23.00 | NeilHanlon | mhhm... |
| 04:23.22 | NeilHanlon | I was thinking I might be able to like |
| 04:23.40 | NeilHanlon | route add -host 192.168.1.99 gw 10.0.0.2 |
| 04:23.43 | NeilHanlon | but that doesn't seem to work |
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| 04:25.23 | Shadow_7 | depending on what you're doing you might need ebtables to NAT the MAC address. Modern routing is a little more strict |
| 04:26.39 | Shadow_7 | but for network connectivity without dhcp, it might be something more like # route add -net 192.168.1.99 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 eth0 && route add default gw 10.0.0.2 |
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| 04:27.05 | Shadow_7 | although that gateway wouldn't make much sense for the subnet, without iptables trickery anyway |
| 04:27.21 | frostschutz | madness |
| 04:27.48 | Shadow_7 | route add default eth0 |
| 04:27.53 | Shadow_7 | would be less maddening |
| 04:28.56 | NeilHanlon | :/ |
| 04:29.05 | Shadow_7 | but routing would still be problematic |
| 04:29.10 | NeilHanlon | yeah... |
| 04:29.28 | NeilHanlon | I'm starting to think I should just try to bridge it. |
| 04:29.32 | frostschutz | ... |
| 04:29.44 | frostschutz | good night (even though it's morning) |
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| 04:30.30 | Shadow_7 | my setup is an asus rt-n16 to the interwebs... and then everything in my room is connected to an asus rt-n12 that bridges to the rt-n16. Those routers on ddwrt ofc... much simpler |
| 04:31.13 | frostschutz | openwrt here. it bridges lan and wlan but that's pretty much standard for any router, no? |
| 04:31.50 | Shadow_7 | depends on the device. ddwrt > 21676 don't seem to support wifi on my asus things. |
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| 04:32.46 | Shadow_7 | and openwrt didn't have much mention of my asus things at all |
| 04:33.30 | zh | wanna do a screen record on debian does the default aplication resizes area screen i need? |
| 04:33.34 | Shadow_7 | I used to just crossover cable to my laptop and let the laptop do the bridging over wifi |
| 04:34.31 | Shadow_7 | zh: define resizes? There's follow mouse and other things if you don't want to capture the whole screen. |
| 04:36.39 | Shadow_7 | might as well capture the whole screen and edit in post if you want fancy things. |
| 04:37.10 | zh | Shadow_7, area screen |
| 04:37.34 | zh | follow mouse is good too |
| 04:37.47 | Shadow_7 | zh: so an area of the screen that changes resolution? resizes |
| 04:38.14 | Shadow_7 | it's a little hard to do that in most video codecs |
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| 04:38.38 | Shadow_7 | setting a capture size and enabling follow mouse is probably the way to go. |
| 04:38.57 | zh | Shadow_7, no, just wanna record a terminal window for example |
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| 04:39.09 | Shadow_7 | which doesn't move? |
| 04:39.15 | zh | yep |
| 04:39.42 | Shadow_7 | I tend to capture the whole screen and crop in post or make the terminal full screen with a sizable font |
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| 04:40.20 | zh | Shadow_7, but now that you told there are so many options i wanna learn them all lol |
| 04:41.02 | Shadow_7 | zh: with avconv it would be something like -s XxY+Xoffset+Yoffset, like the -geometry for terminals |
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| 04:43.29 | zh | on gnome here i have screen recording Control+Shift+Alt+R but cant see a area |
| 04:43.40 | Shadow_7 | zh: one caveat is that you only have the mouse pointer in 24 bit colors or better. |
| 04:44.37 | Shadow_7 | never used that one, but my machines are old and slow so I have to squeeze every low level speed hack I can out of things. |
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| 04:46.41 | nurupo | hey, i just installed a weekly build of firmware-testing-netinst, but the installer couldn't connect to the network (password-protected wi-fi) |
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| 04:47.45 | nurupo | ifconfig lists only lo. how do i go about adding wlan0 to it? |
| 04:48.04 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: ifconfig -a && ifup wlan0 |
| 04:48.20 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: depending on what is installed and if wifi requires firmware which you don't have |
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| 04:52.51 | zh | nurupo you may need a firmware package too |
| 04:53.20 | nurupo | shouldn't firmware netinst include those? |
| 04:53.51 | nurupo | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 04:54.08 | nurupo | >These images are equivalent to the normal "netinst" CDs that we produce regularly, but they also include non-free firmware to make installation easier on some systems requiring proprietary but redistributable firmware. |
| 04:54.36 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: there's several firmware packages and you probably need to enable the non-free repositories to use them |
| 04:54.52 | nurupo | the regulat netints barked at me about missing wi-fi firmware, so i used those images |
| 04:55.10 | nurupo | *regular |
| 04:55.19 | zh | nurupo firmware update is always good |
| 04:55.53 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: apt-cache search firmware |
| 04:55.59 | zh | to do that is non free repos |
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| 04:56.31 | Shadow_7 | there's a lot of firmware packages and you'll likely need to apt-get the ones you need |
| 04:56.45 | zh | nurupo its a question of preference but in my case i prefer to do a debian install and then update including the firms |
| 04:56.49 | nurupo | Shadow_7: btw, i got "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0" when doing ifup wlan0 |
| 04:56.54 | Shadow_7 | apt-get install or dpkg -i from the .deb's on the disk |
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| 04:57.10 | nurupo | Shadow_7: ifconfig -a added eth0, though it's already gone for some reason |
| 04:57.15 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: did it show up in ifconfig -a? |
| 04:57.44 | nurupo | ifconfig -a only showed eth0 and lo |
| 04:57.51 | zh | Unofficial non-free CDs including firmware packages |
| 04:57.56 | Shadow_7 | also network-manager and other gui-ish managers of networks can interfere and play a different configuration game |
| 04:57.58 | zh | for me the name says it all |
| 04:58.01 | zh | not oficial |
| 04:58.17 | zh | updating always better |
| 04:58.31 | nurupo | zh: well, can't do updates without network firmware |
| 04:58.36 | nurupo | zh: :) |
| 04:58.41 | zh | or you just check the card and then the firmware it needs |
| 04:58.43 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: so you're missing the driver+firmware for the wifi. dmesg might give clues as to what those might be |
| 04:59.04 | zh | nurupo first better check the card u have |
| 04:59.23 | nurupo | Shadow_7: what makes you think i'm missing driver+firmware? |
| 04:59.30 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: and $ lspci -nn | grep -i network |
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| 04:59.59 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: because if it's there and the kernel is modprobe'd, then you'll see it in ifconfig -a |
| 05:00.11 | Shadow_7 | which needs to be run as root |
| 05:00.36 | nurupo | don't have lspci on minimal netinst |
| 05:00.42 | Shadow_7 | kernel module modprobed... sometimes they get blacklisted and don't load at boot |
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| 05:01.29 | nurupo | not in /sbin, not in /bin, not in /usr/bin and not in /usr/sbin |
| 05:01.46 | gooberfoob | what do i change in sourcelist to get jessie(testing) |
| 05:02.13 | gooberfoob | I read the wiki but I just wanna make sure im doing it properly |
| 05:02.13 | zh | nurupo lspci -v |
| 05:03.19 | nurupo | oh, i actually have it, apparently it's already somewhere in PATH |
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| 05:03.41 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: /etc/modules /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf |
| 05:04.07 | Shadow_7 | and $ find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -iname '*.ko' |
| 05:04.11 | nurupo | zh: yep, i see my networc controller recognized there |
| 05:04.19 | nurupo | *network |
| 05:05.05 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: lspci -nn |
| 05:05.25 | Shadow_7 | gives the vender:device of the interface... good search term for google |
| 05:05.29 | nurupo | Shadow_7: that command with grep printed my network controller model |
| 05:05.46 | nurupo | okay... |
| 05:05.49 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: should be an FFFF:FFFF number aka hex |
| 05:06.08 | nurupo | yep, 8086:008b |
| 05:06.11 | zh | nurupo whats the debian u have |
| 05:06.14 | Shadow_7 | aka pciids.sourceforge.net |
| 05:06.31 | jmcnaught | ,pciid 8086:008b |
| 05:06.33 | judd | [8086:008b] is 'Centrino Wireless-N 1030 [Rainbow Peak]' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:008b http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
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| 05:07.01 | nurupo | zh: minimal (without any internet conenction, that is) netinst of debian testing |
| 05:07.40 | zh | why testing? |
| 05:07.40 | jmcnaught | nurupo: you need the package firmware-iwlwifi |
| 05:07.42 | nurupo | and it already has firmware for my network controller |
| 05:07.50 | nurupo | i have it |
| 05:08.06 | nurupo | i just wanted to ask how do i create a wlan0 interface |
| 05:08.09 | nurupo | currently i have lo |
| 05:08.34 | zh | nurupo after firm you just turn it up like shadow said |
| 05:08.34 | nurupo | or should it create one automatically if i had drivers+firmware? |
| 05:08.36 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: udev does that automagically once the kernel module is loaded. modprobe iwlwifi |
| 05:09.29 | nurupo | `sudo modprobe iwlwifi` outputed nothing |
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| 05:09.44 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: now check dmesg |
| 05:09.57 | zh | nurupo there are several ways of installing debian but if u use a netinstall next probable way is to update sources list and then update firmware, next cards should work |
| 05:10.01 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: and ifconfig -a again |
| 05:11.00 | zh | nurupo in my view your process is simple now, its check what card u have and then grab firmware then you install it and the card should work |
| 05:11.42 | nurupo | dmesg says that it failed to load iwlwifi |
| 05:12.01 | nurupo | "Direct firmware load failed with error -2" |
| 05:12.42 | zh | https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
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| 05:14.23 | zh | nurupo think on this, grabing a iso with a firmware on it and you dont know card you have, or the iso firmware has it or not |
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| 05:14.46 | Mitikoman | ok |
| 05:14.51 | Shadow_7 | nurupo: sudo apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 05:15.07 | Shadow_7 | sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi |
| 05:15.11 | Shadow_7 | sudo modprobe iwlwifi |
| 05:15.43 | Shadow_7 | https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi <--- according to that anyway |
| 05:16.32 | nurupo | oh, i see what was wrong. i assumed that installer already installed the firmware, when i actually need to manually apt-get it from the disk |
| 05:17.20 | zh | yes |
| 05:17.28 | Shadow_7 | or dpkg -i <package.deb> depending on the state of the package management system |
| 05:18.06 | zh | nurupo thats why refered to u that i always prefer to update firms and not take an iso with firms i might not use |
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| 05:30.26 | nurupo | Shadow_7: zh: jmcnaught: thanks, got wireless up \o/ |
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| 05:33.13 | zh | np |
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| 06:04.47 | Gooberfoob | So I updated to Jessie and now can't log in to my user profiles after I restarted my computer |
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| 06:05.22 | Gooberfoob | Any suggestions ? |
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| 06:09.28 | NeilHanlon | Gooberfoob: can you login at all? |
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| 06:09.40 | NeilHanlon | Like, Ctrl+Shift+F6 (?) |
| 06:09.42 | NeilHanlon | then login |
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| 06:10.44 | NeilHanlon | Sorry |
| 06:10.49 | NeilHanlon | Ctrl+Alt+F6 |
| 06:11.36 | NeilHanlon | And what do you mean you can't "login to your user profiles" |
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| 06:32.04 | ag4ve | how do i get make-kpkg to build linux-tools? |
| 06:32.15 | ag4ve | more acurately, i want perf on a vanilla kernel |
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| 06:46.00 | Sakara | hi all I have just booted up a Dell D620 (old) laptop after a fresh installation of wheezy. |
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| 06:46.16 | Sakara | after I see the boot message propulating /dev the screen goes black and I don't see anything. |
| 06:46.30 | Sakara | I can ssh into it so it boots find just a black screen. |
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| 06:46.33 | Sakara | any ideas? |
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| 06:53.34 | Sakara | I have added nomodeset and it has booted with the screen not doing black. |
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| 06:55.53 | gooberfoob | so i upgraded to jessie and im having issues with the "taskbar" at the bottom. All the icons are to the left |
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| 06:56.39 | gooberfoob | the time is usally on the right along with the other icons like the time open programs |
| 06:56.47 | gooberfoob | how would i go about fixing this ? |
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| 07:55.02 | rhapbit | Hey, guys! |
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| 07:55.58 | xintriq_ | Hi |
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| 07:58.11 | rhapbit | Any suggestions what else to put on an old 333mhz, which I use as a music player with a web interface (i.e. mpd + apache2 + mysql) |
| 07:58.37 | rhapbit | Trying to create a geeky old server, I guess |
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| 07:59.23 | antymat | Hi all. |
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| 08:00.35 | antymat | I've tried to install stable the other day - I had the drives already partitioned - one has been a full, encrypoted drive with lvm on top of it. |
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| 08:01.40 | antymat | The installer could not see it, and I have not been able to cryptsetup luksOpen it - after installing a bunch of udebs, the cryptsetup complained about the kernel not supporting the encryption scheme. |
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| 08:03.00 | antymat | But all the partitioning and encryption has been done just minutes before, in the same installer, so it surely has been able to open and access it. |
| 08:04.08 | antymat | How do I make the encrypted drive accessible in netinstall? |
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| 08:05.05 | peetaur2 | rhapbit: asterisk :) |
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| 08:09.05 | rhapbit | peetaur2, never really understood the point of asterisk - maybe ten years ago, when calls were very expensive, it would've made sense? And it's an old PC, I doubt asterisk would even run properly :) |
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| 08:10.21 | peetaur2 | rhapbit: asterisk started beating hardware PBXes (for small businesses) starting around the 300-400 MHz era (a 400MHz celeron for example would be fine for a small company's internal phone network) |
| 08:11.15 | peetaur2 | rhapbit: so if you want voicemail, extensions, etc.. then you set up an asterisk. And then if you want outgoing calls, you need hardware to hook it to the phone line, or a trunk provider (eg. SIP over the internet). |
| 08:11.23 | peetaur2 | rhapbit: so not only for cheap calls |
| 08:12.39 | rhapbit | peetaur2, Oh, I didn't know that, interesting. Then, is there a sensible way to have a couple of android phones talk to each other over wifi on this server? Any how to's for beginners to recommend? |
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| 08:13.49 | peetaur2 | rhapbit: FreePBX is easy to set up, has good instructions, and yes you can connect any sort of softphone or hardware phone to it, and android has softphones |
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| 08:14.23 | peetaur2 | rhapbit: FreePBX is a frontend with GUI, etc. and pre-set dial plan (so you don't have to literally code your own), for asterisk |
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| 08:16.04 | rhapbit | peetaur2, excellent, thank you a lot, will look into it! :) |
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| 08:22.36 | AquaL1te | does anyone know why the upower transition is on hold? it's blocking gnome 3.12 as it seems. https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-upower.html |
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| 08:29.19 | karelbarel | hello all, could somebody help please, after some recent update (unfortunately I'm not sure which one exactly) I've rebooted the computer and hung on "systemd-fsck[140]: /dev/sda1 clean XXXX/YYYY .... blocks", when tried to boot in the recover mode, the boot stops with progress bar (like the car's front cameras bar in the Knight Rider series) and with message "a start of running job for Load Kernel Modules" (when i enabled systemd debug messages there' |
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| 08:34.04 | karelbarel | I've tried hints described here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717892 but without luck unfortunately |
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| 08:35.38 | peetaur2 | karelbarel: I'm assuming your progress bar is in the boot up rather than X, and based on that I suggest you try again but edit the grub line to remove the "splash=silent quiet" junk, and then rather than a useless flashy progress bar, you might be able to read something more useful. |
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| 08:36.32 | somoneon | Fuck systemd you pieces of shit |
| 08:36.47 | somoneon | Fuck debian women feminist scum |
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| 08:37.41 | petern__ | Strange what people get upset about.. |
| 08:38.05 | peetaur2 | not so strange to hate systemd though... it's like being forced to beta test |
| 08:38.05 | daslicht | hello when i try to apply the firewall in ajenti i get: |
| 08:38.06 | daslicht | :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] |
| 08:38.09 | karelbarel | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:38.11 | daslicht | error on this line |
| 08:38.15 | daslicht | whats wrong with it ? |
| 08:38.17 | peetaur2 | and not strange, but yes crazy, to rant about it to people that don't care to hear it |
| 08:38.34 | babilen | karelbarel: You should not face these problems in wheezy at all |
| 08:38.53 | daslicht | currently i have this config in ajenti: |
| 08:38.57 | daslicht | https://gist.github.com/daslicht/9c6dac4a5e205cecae88 |
| 08:38.58 | petern__ | peetaur2, if you're on a Debian system, where systemd is forced, then yeah, you're already "beta" testing. heh |
| 08:39.15 | peetaur2 | petern__: thankfully I don't have systemd on any debian yet ;) |
| 08:39.31 | petern__ | Yeah, I don't think it's forced even where they've decided to make it the default. |
| 08:39.39 | peetaur2 | petern__: but it's on openSUSE (which is on my desktops), where it is probably the best implementation using systemd around ... but still not problem free. |
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| 08:40.07 | babilen | systemd is not being forced at all and you are free to use systemd-shim if you don't want to run it as init. You might miss out on some functionality, but you are free to do so. Hell, you are even free to not install *any* systemd packages at all, but that would also limit your choices in terms of desktop environments. |
| 08:40.25 | babilen | Either way, lets move on. |
| 08:40.32 | peetaur2 | on openSUSE it's kinda forced indirectly... they barely support it anywhere; if you install the 'option' of system-v-whatever, things break and you won't find any support, just people telling you not to do it |
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| 08:40.52 | karelbarel | babilen>well but i do unfortunately |
| 08:41.01 | babilen | karelbarel: You switched to systemd on wheezy? |
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| 08:42.34 | Geraldus | Hi friends! I have installed Debian 7 with Gnome Meta, I believe. Is it possible to remove Gnome3-meta installation and install it as separate packages? |
| 08:42.38 | babilen | karelbarel: Which version did you install? How did you install it? Did you test booting with "init=/bin/systemd" on the kernel command line or did you install systemd-sysv right away? Is the system booting fine if you switch back to sysvinit again? |
| 08:42.55 | karelbarel | well probably yes, but i've installed it when it was squeeze yet |
| 08:42.55 | babilen | dpkg: tell Geraldus -about install gnome |
| 08:43.11 | babilen | karelbarel: The version in wheezy is ancient, you really shouldn't use it. |
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| 08:43.41 | babilen | There is a current one in wheezy-backports, but feel free to answer all my questions. (If something is unclear or you need further instructions let me know) |
| 08:43.53 | babilen | well, fsvo "current" |
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| 08:44.05 | Geraldus | babilen: thanks |
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| 08:44.49 | cynicallemon | is it systemd hour? |
| 08:45.33 | babilen | Geraldus: I would start by installing one of the smaller metapackages (i.e. gnome-session) and to take it from there. You can also mark packages as manually installed by using apt-mark or simply running "apt-get install FOO" |
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| 08:46.06 | babilen | cynicallemon: There is no such thing. Do you have a support question that we can help you with? |
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| 08:46.48 | cynicallemon | just noticed some venting earlier about systemd |
| 08:46.49 | Geraldus | babilen: so, first I should remove gnome-meta, right? ) |
| 08:47.15 | karelbarel | babilen>regarding the version i'm not sure, the systemd installation was not intentional probably, but it was installed by aptitude / synaptic for sure and the version is probably the 204, I can't tell you for sure as I'm in the office right now ... |
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| 08:47.16 | babilen | karelbarel: fwiw, systemd is and never was in squeeze. Are you unsure how to determine the version of systemd you have installed? |
| 08:48.02 | babilen | karelbarel: Well, why don't you come back once you can work on this problem? It is much easier to debug things if the people working on it actually have access to the system in question. |
| 08:48.12 | cynicallemon | Babalau, just that my sid system refused to boot about 2 weeks ago after an update and it was down to systemd not liking ipv6 being disabled |
| 08:48.45 | cynicallemon | sorry my last comment was for babilen |
| 08:48.46 | babilen | cynicallemon: It was quickly detained and we managed to focus on actual support. |
| 08:48.54 | babilen | cynicallemon: but report? |
| 08:49.00 | babilen | err, *bug report |
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| 08:49.27 | cynicallemon | i think i got the solution via a bug report if IRC |
| 08:49.55 | babilen | cynicallemon: So that bug has been reported and has also been fixed, but you cannot recall the bug report? |
| 08:50.23 | babilen | And you no longer experiencing this problem? |
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| 08:52.01 | cynicallemon | babilen, it was bug 747073 which stopped the CUPS server from starting too |
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| 08:53.28 | cynicallemon | babilen, perhaps the boot fail was a side issue but it all came right when ipv6 was re-enabled |
| 08:53.58 | babilen | cynicallemon: Ah, it looks as if it is being worked on and I would expect it to be fixed by the time jessie will be released. It is unfortunate that this happened, but that is, I guess, why help and testing is welcome while a new release is being prepared. |
| 08:54.22 | babilen | Just out of curiosity: Why did you disable IPv6? |
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| 08:55.41 | cynicallemon | babilen, ipv6 tends to slow down browsing and net stuff in general historically for me plus we have no ipv6 capable IP's here |
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| 08:56.01 | cynicallemon | *ISP's |
| 08:56.11 | babilen | ah, okay. I have to confess that I haven't had any issues on sid with anything like that for years now |
| 08:56.48 | babilen | But fair enough. I hope that this problem will be fixed soon. :) |
| 08:57.04 | cynicallemon | babilen, yeah sid seems fine to be honest but have to run with ipv6 now due to that CUP |
| 08:57.46 | babilen | CUP? |
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| 08:58.03 | cynicallemon | damn keyboard lol - meant |
| 08:58.11 | babilen | heh |
| 08:58.13 | cynicallemon | CUPs |
| 08:58.18 | cynicallemon | :) |
| 08:58.33 | babilen | Ah, yeah :D |
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| 09:02.08 | babilen | cynicallemon: Just to let you know: We have a support channel specifically for testing and unstable over at irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) called #debian-next |
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| 09:03.25 | cynicallemon | babilen, ok thanks for reminding me, forgot about that |
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| 09:03.38 | naquad | hi |
| 09:03.45 | naquad | https://gist.github.com/naquad/9e96dfe9956a8de88684 - what the hell does that mean and how do i fix that? |
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| 09:05.18 | babilen | naquad: Mind pasting the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy gcc-4.7-base gcc-4.7" too? |
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| 09:08.30 | babilen | naquad: Oh, and include gcc-4.7-multilib in there |
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| 09:11.27 | babilen | naquad: hello? |
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| 09:16.32 | snadge | that link was very rude |
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| 09:18.30 | antymat | hi once more :) |
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| 09:19.22 | galex-713 | Hello |
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| 09:19.27 | antymat | what do I do in Stable netinstall to be able to unlock a LUKS disk before installer detects disks? |
| 09:20.30 | galex-713 | When I boot my Debian Sid, I get the following screen instead of gdm3: âOh no! Something has gone wrong.\n A problem has occurred and the system can't recover.\n Pleas log out and try again.â |
| 09:20.34 | antymat | The thing is - it did not detect an encrypted disk with no partitions. |
| 09:20.35 | babilen | antymat: I think that installer allows you to do that in the partitioning stage. You might have to load additional modules if you use fancy LUKS settings though. But then i haven't tried this ever I think (I just configure it in the installer) |
| 09:20.50 | galex-713 | Then there is a big button âLog Outâ, but if I press it I get a black screen then the same error |
| 09:21.07 | galex-713 | I tryed to âservice gdm3 restartâ but that caused the same problem |
| 09:21.17 | babilen | galex-713: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) please. We also need a lot more details as to what happened between "worked before" and "doesn't work now" |
| 09:21.36 | galex-713 | Whatâs the difference with #debian, here? |
| 09:21.45 | galex-713 | Between #debian-next and #debian? |
| 09:22.00 | antymat | babilen: I have tried. I've installed the cryptsetup from udeb, and tried to modprobe all the crypt modules, but it did not help. |
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| 09:22.17 | babilen | galex-713: This channel supports stable and #debian-next testing and unstable |
| 09:22.22 | galex-713 | Ok |
| 09:22.27 | galex-713 | thanks |
| 09:23.13 | antymat | Or maybe this would help - how do I force the installer to load all the necessary modules and udebs? |
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| 09:23.28 | babilen | antymat: Hmm, curious. I would have thought that it would simply allow you to work with existing LUKS schemes. You might want to ask about this in #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net as they might/should know if this functionality is available. |
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| 09:24.44 | antymat | babilen: thanks, I will try. |
| 09:25.13 | zh | Going on Menu System Settings / System / Details / System-Up-To-Date will fully update debian just like terminal? |
| 09:26.00 | babilen | zh: To be honest: I have no idea what that does, so I go with a decisive: Maybe!? |
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| 09:27.11 | dfb | why don't you run it while watching top/htop/ps aux or something like that and you can see what it does in the terminal while it runs? |
| 09:27.56 | zh | babilen forgot to tell this, thats menus on gnome cause other probably is different |
| 09:28.22 | zh | dfb problem is that i have all updates done |
| 09:28.22 | dfb | or look in /var/log/apt/history.log or /var/log/dkpg.log while it runs |
| 09:28.28 | babilen | zh: It probably starts some kind of graphical package manager. Can you figure out which one? (I haven't been using any in a long time) |
| 09:28.39 | zh | dfb so not available option |
| 09:29.07 | zh | babilen button is not clickable now cause have system updated |
| 09:29.23 | dfb | did you update it previously using the button? |
| 09:29.58 | dfb | i would imagine it just runs apt-get tbh |
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| 09:30.59 | babilen | Sounds like synaptic -- if so it behaves differently from apt-get/apt/aptitude in a few regards (e.g. apt preferences like the default release) |
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| 09:32.31 | zh | so.. not so complete? |
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| 09:33.04 | zh | my question really is if there is method of system full update via gui on gnome |
| 09:33.15 | babilen | It should be complete. If you would run "aptitude search '~U'" you shouldn't see any packages |
| 09:33.48 | babilen | zh: My general recommendation would be to not use the graphical package managers, but synaptic should⢠work well. |
| 09:34.10 | zh | this is not for me is for a user |
| 09:34.22 | zh | i normally use terminal |
| 09:36.30 | babilen | zh: It should be fine. |
| 09:36.46 | babilen | (assuming you are indeed referring to synaptic) |
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| 09:43.12 | zh | https://wiki.debian.org/Synaptic this link has a link down on a complete guide to synaptic |
| 09:43.59 | zh | well not exactly down but cant see any info |
| 09:44.50 | zh | babilen thanks |
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| 09:50.39 | subz3r0 | hi |
| 09:50.49 | subz3r0 | how can i lock my screen in xfce? |
| 09:51.00 | subz3r0 | ctrl + alt +l does not work |
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| 09:51.43 | jaakkos | xscreensaver-command --lock |
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| 09:52.16 | LaptopBrain | does anyone really still use nfs for much? |
| 09:52.27 | subz3r0 | jaakkos: in the terminal? |
| 09:52.34 | jaakkos | subz3r0: yes :) |
| 09:52.42 | subz3r0 | lol? no other way? |
| 09:52.54 | jaakkos | i think you should be able to bind that to shortcut key |
| 09:53.26 | subz3r0 | :( |
| 09:53.33 | subz3r0 | gnome can do it out of the box :( |
| 09:55.18 | subz3r0 | jaakkos: ctrl + alt + del works! |
| 09:55.21 | subz3r0 | :) |
| 09:56.14 | jaakkos | i see, it apparently executes the xflock4 command |
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| 09:59.03 | galex-713 | What are the differences between task-gnome-desktop (the gnome installed by the installer), gnome-desktop-environment and gnome-core? |
| 09:59.33 | galex-713 | How to install GNOME without overriding all the defaults (like having starting running gnome-shell, having gnome-terminal as default terminal instead of uxterm, etc.)? |
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| 10:01.06 | SynrGy | !install gnome |
| 10:01.07 | dpkg | To install GNOME: «apt-get install â¦Â» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 10:01.17 | SynrGy | galex-713: in a nutshell, that^^ |
| 10:01.28 | SynrGy | galex-713: but for details, 'apt-cache show' each one and compare |
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| 10:03.14 | galex-713 | SynrGy: my question derived from me having already asked with â/msg dpkg install gnomeâ (but thanks anyway), Iâll see the apt-cache show, thank you :) |
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| 10:05.30 | galex-713 | Ok⦠I already read half of this⦠and dependencies donât let me know what configuration defaults are overriden by what⦠err⦠|
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| 10:09.36 | subz3r0 | another question. since im using xfce for now and there is no gome keyring... how can i acces via thunar my sftp (with public key(priv...)) |
| 10:09.56 | subz3r0 | just add the key with ssh-add? |
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| 10:10.52 | SynrGy | galex-713: it's really two questions, then, as the package selection has nothing to do with the configuraiton question |
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| 10:11.40 | SynrGy | galex-713: i don't understand what you mean by "without overriding all the defaults" |
| 10:11.41 | galex-713 | SynrGy: but installing gnome changes configuration |
| 10:11.53 | galex-713 | SynrGy: for instance, alternatives change |
| 10:11.58 | SynrGy | then change them back? |
| 10:11.59 | galex-713 | (for instance) |
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| 10:12.24 | galex-713 | Yeah but not everything can be changed |
| 10:12.31 | SynrGy | each individual package providing a thing sets its own alternatives priority |
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| 10:12.51 | SynrGy | so which metapackage you choose doesn't affect that |
| 10:12.53 | daslicht | i have exactly the same issue: |
| 10:12.53 | daslicht | https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/12/msg00636.html |
| 10:12.57 | galex-713 | For instance I can still see that startx start gnome-shell and canât anymore start anything else |
| 10:13.13 | daslicht | when i change the permissions of the folder manually anything works fine until next reboot of the server |
| 10:13.22 | daslicht | after that the permissions are broken again ?! |
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| 10:13.53 | SynrGy | galex-713: as mentioned earlier, startx really isn't the best way to start a desktop anymore anyway |
| 10:14.08 | SynrGy | it's missing all the necessary session startup stuff |
| 10:14.40 | galex-713 | Yes, I understood that, but *why* does it do so? itâs that something else that I donât know about changed too⦠but what? |
| 10:14.46 | SynrGy | so if you need to modify your ~/.xsession anyway, it doesn't matter much what the defaults are |
| 10:15.00 | SynrGy | examine all the individual scripts |
| 10:15.11 | SynrGy | look at /etc/X11/Xsession, and all the things it calls |
| 10:15.19 | SynrGy | and the alternatives that provide those things |
| 10:15.25 | SynrGy | this will give you a deeper appreciation of why |
| 10:15.33 | galex-713 | Of all packages installed by gnome-desktop-environment and kde-plasma-netbook? really? |
| 10:15.42 | SynrGy | no. |
| 10:15.49 | galex-713 | Ok |
| 10:15.49 | SynrGy | just the top level scripts |
| 10:15.57 | galex-713 | Of which packages? |
| 10:16.02 | SynrGy | as i said, start with /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 10:16.17 | SynrGy | follow what it calls, down to the names of things it calls from the alternatives system ... |
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| 10:16.38 | galex-713 | I canât see the change |
| 10:16.43 | galex-713 | ok |
| 10:16.47 | SynrGy | this will give you an overview of what calls what, and why one thing is chosen over another. |
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| 10:17.26 | SynrGy | e.g. by looking at alternatives priorities for things providing x-session-manager, just to name one. |
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| 10:18.10 | galex-713 | SynrGy: x-session-manager just have gnome as session manager |
| 10:18.36 | galex-713 | I canât just say âi3â cause itÌâs not a session manager |
| 10:18.42 | galex-713 | So it added this alternative |
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| 10:18.52 | galex-713 | And that changed something I donât know |
| 10:19.14 | SynrGy | galex-713: hint, /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup |
| 10:19.44 | SynrGy | *if* there is a session manager, it will choose it and run it. then it proceeds after that to fallbacks to other things to look for |
| 10:19.47 | babilen | galex-713: So, what are you actually trying to achieve now? |
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| 10:20.31 | galex-713 | babilen: I was just trying to understand what the installation of GNOME did to the system |
| 10:20.46 | babilen | galex-713: "just" :) |
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| 10:20.54 | galex-713 | ^^ |
| 10:21.04 | SynrGy | galex-713: second hint, search that file for x-session-manager and read the section of code that's in |
| 10:21.37 | SynrGy | galex-713: you'll see a startx proceeds down through a list of things to tell it how to start, until it finally hits these choices ... |
| 10:21.55 | SynrGy | galex-713: so if you didn't say explicitly what to start in your ~/.xsession, it ends up calling these |
| 10:22.25 | galex-713 | ok |
| 10:22.29 | SynrGy | galex-713: again, there's really no good alternative to reading the code :) |
| 10:22.52 | SynrGy | galex-713: and when reading the code, you have to exercise patience and keep looking until it yields the answer to the question you seek |
| 10:23.39 | SynrGy | galex-713: are we there yet? :) |
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| 10:41.34 | wbx | hi |
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| 10:41.58 | wbx | we have strange network problems on our wheezy firewall since the kernel update from yesterday |
| 10:42.07 | wbx | is it a known problem? |
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| 10:44.24 | SynrGy | wbx: how can it be known? you haven't told us what the problem is ... |
| 10:44.53 | SynrGy | bugs.debian.org is where known problems are recorded, by the way |
| 10:45.00 | SynrGy | use it |
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| 10:50.05 | six86 | Hello. Is there a way to see possible debconf configuration values? For example: I want to see what values I can preseed for an openssh-server installation. |
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| 10:51.27 | SynrGy | six86: yes |
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| 10:52.03 | six86 | SynrGy: Thanks. :-) Would you tell me how it's done? |
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| 10:52.38 | SynrGy | six86: sorry, i don't memorize these things. had to look it up :) |
| 10:52.43 | SynrGy | six86: debconf-get-selections |
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| 10:53.16 | six86 | SynrGy: I tried that, but I think it only shows the values that are actually set. |
| 10:53.22 | SynrGy | right. so look at the templates |
| 10:53.26 | SynrGy | in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 10:54.33 | six86 | SynrGy: Thank you very much. Exactly what I was looking for. |
| 10:55.09 | SynrGy | np |
| 10:55.30 | six86 | SynrGy: Unfortunately it's just the one possible value. I like to preseed "UseDNS no" for example... |
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| 10:56.17 | SynrGy | six86: there are not necessarily knobs for each possible conf value ... |
| 10:56.24 | Ryuk | hello |
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| 10:57.34 | six86 | What would be the prober way if I want to configure another software like openssh when installing an own deb package? The deb guide says one shouldn't mess with other config files... |
| 10:57.35 | SynrGy | six86: it is possible, however, to execute arbitrary scripts from preseed files to make other kinds of changes (e.g. sed a conf file) |
| 10:57.55 | SynrGy | to be policy compliant, no |
| 10:58.04 | SynrGy | is this your own private package though? |
| 10:58.36 | six86 | It's a package out of a set that we use for a research project. So usually internal. |
| 10:58.41 | SynrGy | the "proper" way, if there is no knob for it is to add a knob for it, i suppose. |
| 10:59.33 | SynrGy | six86: so, fork openssh-server, providing your own updated .templates and .config for it. |
| 10:59.50 | SynrGy | and .postinst, probably |
| 11:00.44 | Ryuk | I'm using debian 7.5 and I would like to have the latest version of Kdenlive. Their page says that I would have to upgrade to debian testing but I don't want to upgrade the system to testing. Is there any other ways? |
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| 11:01.28 | wbx | hmm. Your version of linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 (3.2.60-1+deb7u1) is newer than that |
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| 11:01.31 | wbx | in Debian! |
| 11:01.35 | SynrGy | six86: a more 'proper' way, if you can provide the justification for it is, split config file. if you have multiple packages contending for the same config files, an /etc/foo.d/ arrangement where each package can provide its own conf snippets |
| 11:01.36 | wbx | from reportbug |
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| 11:01.45 | SynrGy | ,kernels |
| 11:01.46 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.15-trunk-686-pae (3.15.3-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.10-1); jessie: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.9-1); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.14.7-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 11:01.56 | six86 | If i wanted to change a configuration value of an already installed openssh-server and there is a knob for that, would I call debconf-set-selections and then dpgk-reconfigure openssh-server? Would that be the proper way? |
| 11:01.58 | heftig-z | Is it possible to get the current version of a native package from its configure script? |
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| 11:03.27 | SynrGy | six86: yeah. you could do that (calling dpkg-reconfigure non-interactively) |
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| 11:03.40 | SynrGy | or else call it interactively and select the new setting through the ui |
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| 11:04.54 | SynrGy | heftig-z: that entirely depends on the native package and its configure script, since build systems are numerous and features implemented in each vary |
| 11:05.15 | six86 | We have this problem in several places. For example configuring a GPS device or an own timeserver to /etc/ntp.conf would formally be messing with a foreign config file. So this would also have to be made in a proper way... |
| 11:05.20 | SynrGy | there is no uniform way of asking for version that i know of |
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| 11:05.37 | heftig-z | SynrGy: autotools |
| 11:05.55 | SynrGy | six86: if you need it to be supported natively in debian for your use case, you could file a wishlist so you don't have to fork the package ... |
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| 11:06.09 | SynrGy | six86: wishlist with patch would be better :) |
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| 11:07.36 | six86 | SyneGy: Actually it would be very nice to have something like that integrated. I just thought there must be a way to do such things in a proper way. We can't be the first ones to see this problem :) |
| 11:08.17 | guest593 | Hello, I want to install linux image 3.12 from Backports, apt-get says it downloads 300 MB and install 1 GB? Is that expected or normal? |
| 11:08.37 | SynrGy | six86: probably not. |
| 11:08.57 | SynrGy | six86: but then again, it's hard to have knobs for everything ... |
| 11:09.06 | SynrGy | more points of failure |
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| 11:09.28 | SynrGy | sometimes 'policy be damned, i'll just sed this thing' is the expedient solution |
| 11:09.54 | SynrGy | but you could make an argument 'this particular thing is a common use case, so worth making a knob for it' |
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| 11:10.39 | six86 | SynrGy: Totally true. Just wanted to follow the packaging guidelines. As I am doing it the first time I want to to it in the proper way without violating too many rules. Also there is simply the danger of me setting a value in a config file and a colleague not aware of it and needing another value at the same place just overwriting it... Happy Bug huntung :D |
| 11:10.39 | SynrGy | guest593: what's the problem with that? |
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| 11:11.03 | SynrGy | guest593: are you unhappy that the package is so efficiently stored? :) |
| 11:11.18 | rtur | Can I pass dependencies to sbuild which are not on a mirror ? |
| 11:11.22 | SynrGy | there is this thing called compression ... |
| 11:11.47 | guest593 | I am used to much smaller kernel updates, so I am wondering whether it's expected or rather I may have done something wrong on my machine |
| 11:11.53 | SynrGy | rtur: i don't know sbuild. i know in pbuilder there are ways of injecting a 'pile of debs' |
| 11:12.23 | SynrGy | six86: yep |
| 11:12.43 | rtur | SnyGy: Thanks, but I rather set up a mirror than removing sbuild and configuring/learning pbuilder ;-) |
| 11:12.55 | SynrGy | rtur: i'm not saying you should |
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| 11:13.26 | SynrGy | rtur: just "other alternatives do it, so it's not unreasonable to expect sbuild might too ..." |
| 11:13.33 | SynrGy | happy hunting :) |
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| 11:14.09 | SynrGy | rtur: but failing that, is it really so hard to just drop your debs in a dir and apt-ftparchive it? |
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| 11:15.12 | SynrGy | guest593: oh, so it's overall size you're complaining about? without seeing the command and output of your command, i can't say whether this is "normal" or not |
| 11:15.28 | SynrGy | guest593: i thought you were referring to the discrepancy between downloaded and installed sizes. |
| 11:18.18 | guest593 | SynrGy: turned out I was doing it wrong - I added backports and then apt-get installed the 3.12.0-bpo 30 MB package, which pulled down the 300 MB -dbg pakcage. |
| 11:18.26 | guest593 | I ought have done !bdo kernel |
| 11:18.29 | guest593 | !bdo kernel |
| 11:18.30 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 11:18.50 | guest593 | which in fact is downloading expected size 30 MB package (and 3.14) |
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| 11:20.38 | SynrGy | heftig-z: does http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.69/html_node/Initializing-configure.html help then? |
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| 11:21.01 | SynrGy | guest593: there you go |
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| 11:21.06 | SynrGy | !congratulate guest593 |
| 11:21.07 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies guest593, you did it! |
| 11:21.35 | guest593 | thanks, but I think this should be clarified on the official website somewhere |
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| 11:22.55 | SynrGy | guest593: where would you expect to find this information? |
| 11:23.00 | guest593 | SynrGy: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel |
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| 11:23.27 | guest593 | it only says "use backports", but then you're on your own to find the package name |
| 11:23.29 | SynrGy | please note that 'official' and 'wiki' don't belong in the same sentence (since anyone can modify it :) |
| 11:23.47 | heftig-z | SynrGy: no; the version is currently static, but I want it to automatically retrieve the version from the changelog file |
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| 11:24.48 | SynrGy | guest593: if you followed the instructions on that wiki page, except 'use backports' intead, you would get the right results. |
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| 11:25.14 | SynrGy | guest593: the only gotchas is if you follow the pattern for *unstable or experimental* which has you installing the specific versioned kernel package |
| 11:25.18 | SynrGy | gotcha* |
| 11:25.52 | SynrGy | guest593: instead of making the more reasonable assumption that using backports is 'like stable' (i.e. install linux-image-flavour, as you do for stable) |
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| 11:28.10 | guest593 | yes, 3.14 appears in apt-cache search linux-image. So it was my fault |
| 11:28.28 | guest593 | Thanks for your patience&time |
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| 11:34.00 | sandman13 | why I am getting this error: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw for module r8169 |
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| 11:34.17 | sandman13 | I have already installed firmware-realtek |
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| 11:35.46 | Nik05 | sandman13 and does the file exist? |
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| 11:36.03 | sandman13 | Nik05, wait |
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| 11:37.33 | sandman13 | Nik05, some of the are there, wait let me paste it |
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| 11:37.40 | jelly | judd: file lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw |
| 11:37.43 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 11:37.55 | jelly | judd: file lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw --release wheezy-backports |
| 11:37.56 | judd | Search for lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw in wheezy-backports/i386: firmware-realtek: lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw |
| 11:38.16 | jelly | sandman13: do you have the _right_ version of firmware-realtek installed? |
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| 11:38.53 | jelly | kernel from backports ought to be matched by firmware from backports |
| 11:39.16 | sandman13 | jelly, I have the kernel from backports 3.14 |
| 11:40.27 | sandman13 | got it thanks jelly and Nik05 |
| 11:41.30 | sandman13 | btw I remember removing linux-image 3.2 (old kernel), I installed Virtualbox via backports but now the kernel is back again |
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| 11:49.10 | gregor2 | how can i disable the touchpad? |
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| 11:52.10 | babilen | gregor2: Temporarily or forever? |
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| 11:53.31 | gregor2 | only temporary! |
| 11:54.00 | babilen | gregor2: "synclient TouchpadOff=1" |
| 11:54.16 | babilen | (cf. synaptics(4)) |
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| 11:54.45 | gregor2 | no synaptics driver loaded! |
| 11:55.45 | babilen | gregor2: egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps' /proc/bus/input/devices |
| 11:56.02 | babilen | Does that return anything? |
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| 12:01.25 | gregor2 | no |
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| 12:02.10 | abrotman | some laptops have a soft-switch |
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| 12:02.35 | gregor2 | soft-switch? |
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| 12:03.12 | babilen | gregor2: Could you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 12:04.03 | gregor2 | there is a touchpad symbol on the f9 key and if i press "fn" and f9 there comes a chrossed out touchpad on the screen but the touchpad is enabled anyway! |
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| 12:06.47 | gregor2 | http://paste.debian.net/108675/ |
| 12:06.56 | GazzaBaza | Hi. I'm wanting to boot off a debian live CD and clone my drive |
| 12:06.57 | StaticLNX | anyone know if there are any 802.11ac chips that run in linux? "preferably 3200" |
| 12:07.17 | GazzaBaza | and copy it to an external drive shared on a windows 7 machine via gigabit ethernet |
| 12:07.26 | GazzaBaza | how can I achieve this? |
| 12:07.44 | StaticLNX | scp |
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| 12:08.13 | GazzaBaza | I want to be able to mount the file in windows 7 |
| 12:08.26 | StaticLNX | nvm |
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| 12:58.35 | kushal3 | What's the easiest way to reclaim all the space that my evolution mail is taking in Wheezy? I am running out of space on my vm :( |
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| 13:01.29 | r4co0n | kushal3, https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2012-July/msg00034.html ? |
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| 13:02.48 | kushal3 | r4co0n, so it is ok to delete folders inside evolution? |
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| 13:03.11 | kushal3 | btw, I don't need to use evolution anymore. I installed Thunderbird :) |
| 13:03.15 | AquaL1te | remove your imap in your local folder and configure a max age of mails to sync |
| 13:03.17 | r4co0n | kusha13, just rename them and try? |
| 13:03.36 | AquaL1te | or cleanup your inbox |
| 13:03.41 | AquaL1te | whatever floats your boat |
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| 13:04.39 | kushal3 | thanks |
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| 13:05.35 | r4co0n | kusha13, you ran out of space and installed icedove to solve it.. brilliant ;) |
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| 13:17.42 | jww | Hello. |
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| 13:19.04 | jww | I got a server where by mistake /bin and some other files like libs have been deleted . there are still all the packages in /var/apt/archive, I wondered if I could reinstall them all, without configuration ? |
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| 13:20.35 | Nik05 | try it out, otherwise restore backup |
| 13:20.39 | centrx | jww, They will probably use the existing configuration in /etc assuming that hasn't been deleted |
| 13:22.08 | jaakkos | funny how fail2ban for Apache in Debian Wheezy is entirely non-functional and almost no-one seems to care... |
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| 13:23.07 | htcon | q |
| 13:23.29 | jww | Nik05: / centrx let's try it. |
| 13:24.05 | jelly | jww: read /msg dpkg reinstall |
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| 13:24.23 | jelly | jww: if your configuration is intact, it might even work |
| 13:24.24 | jww | thanks ! |
| 13:24.46 | jelly | of course you'll have to bootstrap dpkg, apt, and aptitude binaries as well |
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| 13:25.34 | jww | I'm doing some backup and I try this. |
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| 13:38.15 | tillo | Is there any way I can sponsor, financially or by vote, https://bugs.debian.org/714726 ? It's about fixing "Suite:" generation in the Release file of *-backports, old and really annoying bug. |
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| 13:43.15 | centrx | tillo, Is there a patch for it? It looks like they haven't responded. You could go bug them about the bug on the FTP masters channel. |
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| 13:44.23 | tillo | centrx: there is one but it's apparently untested and yes they did not reply, I'll go bug them then. |
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| 13:57.10 | gerforce | clear |
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| 14:13.50 | skilz | How do I install the old gnome? |
| 14:13.52 | skilz | I think it |
| 14:13.57 | skilz | It's gnome2? |
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| 14:15.08 | jelly | skilz: gnome2 is not supported, there's "mate" now. |
| 14:15.09 | SynrG | you don't |
| 14:15.13 | jelly | !tell skilz about mate |
| 14:15.23 | SynrG | ,v mate-desktop |
| 14:15.24 | judd | Package: mate-desktop on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1; sid: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1 |
| 14:15.43 | jelly | backports! |
| 14:16.11 | SynrG | as advertised in the factoid you sent, too ;) |
| 14:16.18 | gnugr | ,v mate-desktop-environment |
| 14:16.19 | judd | Package: mate-desktop-environment on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.0+2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.0+6; sid: 1.8.0+6 |
| 14:16.38 | jelly | \backports/ |
| 14:17.32 | SynrG | er, yes. the latter is the more complete one |
| 14:17.52 | jelly | !install mate |
| 14:17.52 | dpkg | To install <MATE> on Debian Jessie, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install mate-desktop-environment». Install the mate-desktop-environment-extras package for even more things. The packages are also available for <wheezy-backports>. |
| 14:18.05 | jww | wooot ! I succed in reparing the distro. the commands dpkg gave didn't worked, because of unresolvable dependencies on perl. |
| 14:18.35 | jelly | !win jww |
| 14:18.35 | dpkg | Congratulations, jww! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 14:18.38 | jww | but I could manage to run dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*deb , then apt-get install -f . the server rebooted fine . |
| 14:18.44 | daswort | hi i have a wheezy with lxc installed, when i reboot a container (from inside it) the host freezes. I use a backports kernel. |
| 14:18.44 | jww | thanks for your help . |
| 14:19.13 | SynrG | jww: might want to do a full debsums on that server ... |
| 14:19.20 | skilz | How can I put debian iso on a usb so I can use it as a disk to install? |
| 14:19.28 | SynrG | jww: i mean, rebooting is nice, but there may be some damage |
| 14:19.44 | SynrG | jww: then apt-get install --reinstall each damaged thing |
| 14:19.49 | jelly | skilz: which OS are you going to put it on usb? |
| 14:19.56 | skilz | debian |
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| 14:20.19 | daswort | *the system is unreachable via the network. it doesn't freeze. |
| 14:20.30 | SynrG | skilz: cp nameofiso.iso /dev/sdX |
| 14:20.39 | jelly | skilz: so you already have debian installed, and you want to put the .iso image on an usb stick? |
| 14:21.17 | SynrG | (where /dev/sdX is the usb device, i.e. not a partition) |
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| 14:22.08 | skilz | Yes |
| 14:22.11 | thebishop | hi, i'm having trouble passing a password into debconf with debconf-set-selection. I've got it working for other fields, but my passwords don't seem to be respected |
| 14:22.29 | SynrG | skilz: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ |
| 14:22.30 | skilz | The usb stick has been used on Windows, so I have to change partition type? |
| 14:22.41 | SynrG | not at all. the cp will totally stomp that |
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| 14:23.47 | SynrG | thebishop: maybe it wants to be a hash of the password? |
| 14:23.57 | SynrG | were you trying plaintext? |
| 14:24.03 | thebishop | SynrG, that's the kind of thing i'm wondering too |
| 14:24.07 | thebishop | SynrG, yes plaintext |
| 14:24.22 | SynrG | that's probably not right. and i thought the installation guide discussed this ... |
| 14:24.24 | thebishop | other examples online don't use it |
| 14:24.47 | skilz | So I don't have to format the drive? |
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| 14:24.54 | skilz | How do I figure out what /dev/ it is? |
| 14:25.23 | jelly | skilz: <SynrG> skilz: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ |
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| 14:26.45 | SynrG | thebishop: hmm: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/apbs04.html.en#preseed-account |
| 14:26.49 | SynrG | thebishop: seems to support both |
| 14:27.17 | thebishop | SynrG, interesting, i didnt see this page before. i'll check it out |
| 14:27.36 | SynrG | thebishop: the installation guide is the definitive doc for installer preseeding |
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| 14:28.38 | skilz | I can't find it |
| 14:29.03 | SynrG | your USB is plugged in and you can't see it in "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/"? |
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| 14:29.37 | meek_geek | how are you |
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| 14:29.49 | skilz | Nope |
| 14:29.52 | SynrG | skilz: use paste.debian.net if you need help with what you're seeing. be sure to include the command you typed, too. |
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| 14:29.55 | skilz | Gparted isn't showing it either |
| 14:29.55 | meek_geek | I am looking for a fast image browser |
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| 14:30.36 | paca_paca|2 | hi guys |
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| 14:31.51 | skilz | Ok I found it |
| 14:31.53 | skilz | It's fat 32 |
| 14:32.00 | skilz | Do I have to change it or just copy the iso over? |
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| 14:32.29 | SynrG | debian installation and live images are 'hybrid'. as such, they require no changes to make them bootable from USB |
| 14:32.38 | paca_paca|2 | i am trying to add an iframe to my site that has ssl. the port of the iframe is 3000 on my own server. the prbolem is it says it can't load non http content on that page |
| 14:33.20 | paca_paca|2 | i think i can fix it through this file /etc/apache2/sites-available/mysite.com.conf |
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| 14:34.39 | SynrG | skilz: not sure if that really answered the question you were asking. as i said earlier, the cp to the drive stomps the *whole contents of the drive* |
| 14:34.52 | SynrG | skilz: e.g. copy to /dev/sdc not /dev/sdc1 |
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| 14:35.20 | SynrG | skilz: if you had a fat32 partition on /dev/sdc1 it is overwritten because /dev/sdc is entirely overwritten by the hybrid image, which contains its own partition table. |
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| 14:35.31 | jelly | paca_paca|2: this is a browser issue, the easiest thing to do is only use https:// for iframed content as well |
| 14:35.43 | paca_paca|2 | how can i paste here? |
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| 14:35.48 | jelly | !paste |
| 14:35.48 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 14:36.13 | dey | i know that its possible to run a irc 'client/server thing' on a server, and then to simply login to that thing. To prevent missing posts in channels. But whats the name of that? Im currently just sshing into a server and start my irssi instance. |
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| 14:36.45 | paca_paca|2 | http://paste.debian.net/108710/ |
| 14:36.57 | jelly | dey: irc calls their caching proxy a "bouncer". znc is one such bouncer software. |
| 14:37.03 | paca_paca|2 | jelly: how do you suggest i go at it then? |
| 14:37.12 | dey | jelly: perfect. thanks! |
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| 14:37.18 | TheReverend403 | >bouncer |
| 14:37.22 | TheReverend403 | >caching proxy |
| 14:37.23 | TheReverend403 | what |
| 14:37.24 | SynrG | dey: see also quassel |
| 14:37.37 | SynrG | dey: and although it's not 100% finished yet, there is quassel-irssi |
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| 14:37.48 | jelly | TheReverend403: you want to discuss semantics, #debian-offtopic |
| 14:38.07 | dey | SynrG: meaning i dont irssi -> bouncer <-> irc? |
| 14:38.41 | SynrG | dey: quasselcore is an entire irc client that replicates to all of its clients. so, it is similar to a bouncer, but a different approach. |
| 14:38.42 | dey | i thought i would do a '/connect 127.0.0.1 in irssi or something like that |
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| 14:39.04 | dey | SynrG: i look into that |
| 14:39.17 | SynrG | dey: quassel-irssi is a plugin (still in development) to use irssi with a quasselcore |
| 14:39.24 | paca_paca|2 | i tried going to https:mysite.com:3000 but it says: http://paste.debian.net/108712/ |
| 14:39.28 | jelly | paca_paca|2: you could make your :3000 app do https://, or you could make a https:// proxy for it and iframe that |
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| 14:39.42 | afsal | i'm trying to install tarball of i8086emu when using 'make' command it shows http://paste.debian.net/108711/ |
| 14:40.09 | jelly | paca_paca|2: your app listening at :3000 has to actually talk https! |
| 14:40.19 | SynrG | dey: i currently use quassel with quasseldroid on my android devices, quassel-client on my desktop systems, and quassel-irssi for ssh -> irssi inside screen |
| 14:40.59 | SynrG | dey: but due to some integration issues with scripts in need in irssi, i'm still waiting for the quassel-irssi development to be finished before i fully switch. |
| 14:41.09 | SynrG | scripts I* need |
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| 14:41.44 | paca_paca|2 | you think that if i change /etc/apache2/sites-available/mysite.conf so that :3000 would be linked through ssl it could do it? |
| 14:42.04 | SynrG | dey: anyway, nice thing about this arrangement is i get exactly the same view of my irc sessions everywhere, no matter which way i'm connected, with complete histories of all channels i'm joined to. |
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| 14:42.14 | jelly | paca_paca|2: which software is listening on :3000 ? |
| 14:42.26 | paca_paca|2 | node js chat |
| 14:42.40 | jelly | paca_paca|2: configure THAT to work with ssl and do https. |
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| 14:43.21 | paca_paca|2 | it has nothing to do with my sites enabled? ok i will give it a shot |
| 14:43.27 | paca_paca|2 | thanks |
| 14:43.32 | jelly | paca_paca|2: no, it's a browser issue! |
| 14:43.52 | jelly | this means "it's your browser that is complaining, not apache" |
| 14:44.24 | afsal | http://paste.debian.net/108711/ |
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| 14:45.56 | afsal | i'm trying to install tarball of i8086emu when using 'make' command it shows http://paste.debian.net/108711/ |
| 14:46.04 | msamsing | Hey everyone |
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| 14:46.43 | dey | SynrG: sounds good |
| 14:47.33 | msamsing | Im thinking about installing Debian on a Lenovo Yoga 11s. But I need to use USB install and I have no network during the install. I have to build the WLAN driver afterwards so I need packages for rebuilding the kernel |
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| 14:47.50 | Ecchi-chan | hi |
| 14:48.00 | Ecchi-chan | i have debian 7.5 on my laptop |
| 14:48.07 | Ecchi-chan | is it safe to do a dist-upgrade on sid? |
| 14:48.49 | msamsing | Do you know if these packages are included on the 650 MB install CD or the install DVD? |
| 14:48.54 | dey | msamsing: that sounds like suicide :D. No temporary rj45 available? |
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| 14:49.13 | msamsing | rj45? |
| 14:49.21 | jelly | wired ethernet network |
| 14:49.49 | msamsing | nope :) I'm going for the "suicide" |
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| 14:50.48 | dey | i dont think all those files are included in the 650mb. I think those files were the reason for 5+ discs distributions |
| 14:51.19 | dey | but then again. all the kernels i ever touched died :D |
| 14:51.31 | msamsing | but they could be included in the dvd? |
| 14:51.45 | afsal | i'm trying to install tarball of i8086emu when using 'make' command it shows http://paste.debian.net/108711/ |
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| 14:54.49 | jelly | afsal: repeating often won't make people suddenly gain a clue, so try to relay it to once per hour or so |
| 14:54.52 | jelly | relax* |
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| 14:56.51 | thebishop | SynrG, Thanks man! I got my password preseeding. |
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| 15:00.25 | naquad | hi |
| 15:00.38 | naquad | https://gist.github.com/naquad/9e96dfe9956a8de88684 - what is that and how do i fix it? |
| 15:04.32 | jelly | !tell naquad about bat |
| 15:05.20 | petn-randall | Ecchi-chan: As safe as jumping out of a perfectly working aeroplane. It just depends if you brought a parachute or not ... |
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| 15:05.50 | Ecchi-chan | haha |
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| 15:07.23 | kruug | I have klogd and and sysklogd listed as `rc` in dpkg. Is it safe to purge them? |
| 15:07.56 | petn-randall | Ecchi-chan: You can upgrade, but you should be quite comfortable with the inner workings of your Debian OS, and you'll end up encountering a lot more bugs than on stable. You'll also be a guinea pig for the newest stuff, and should have working and regular backups because of that. |
| 15:08.49 | jelly | kruug: if some other syslog service is configured and running, and is not using your /etc/syslog.conf, sure |
| 15:09.13 | Ecchi-chan | hmm |
| 15:09.14 | Ecchi-chan | ok thanks |
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| 15:09.58 | kruug | jelly: how can I see if that's configured and running? It's a VPS that was set up for me |
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| 15:10.51 | jelly | kruug: look at whether there's some other syslog installed, and inspect its configuration |
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| 15:12.16 | jelly | kruug: eg. aptitude search '~i ~Psystem-log-daemon' |
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| 15:32.42 | afsal | i'm trying to install tarball of i8086emu when using 'make' command it shows http://paste.debian.net/108711/ |
| 15:32.55 | Voyager82 | Hello. Do I say something that makes sens, if I say that using "apt-get dist-upgrade" is more dangerous than "apt-get upgrade", since APT may provoke problems with the dependencies, and with the configurations of the software? |
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| 15:34.35 | paca_paca|2 | jelly: you are the man, it works! |
| 15:34.37 | jelly | Voyager82: those are not correct if you're using debian stable |
| 15:34.41 | Technodrome | i want to log all connectiosn on the server atm |
| 15:34.49 | Technodrome | how can I do this? |
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| 15:35.08 | Technodrome | its just a test dev server and i want to capture the xml request to see if itâs going through correctly |
| 15:35.14 | jelly | paca_paca|2: you're welcome! |
| 15:35.50 | Voyager82 | jelly, what if I install "too much software", and I change the configuration of "too many things", and APT get "stuck"? I'm not using a "proper language", but I cannot explain better what I'm afraid of. :) |
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| 15:36.25 | jelly | !tell Voyager82 about dist-upgrade |
| 15:37.05 | kruug | !tell kruug about kruug |
| 15:37.09 | jelly | Voyager82: this REALLY depends on which distro and release you're using instead of debian |
| 15:37.21 | jelly | instead of apt* sorry |
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| 15:38.23 | Voyager82 | jelly, I was using Debian Squeeze, and I updated to Wheezy, and the GUI, stopped working properly. After that, I installed a Wheezy version of Debian, from scratch, and everything was fine. I can't explain this. |
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| 15:39.02 | jelly | Voyager82: did you try creating a fresh user on the upgraded system and trying if things worked with that? |
| 15:39.51 | SynrG | Voyager82: did you mix in 3rd party things on the old system? debian-multimedia, for example? |
| 15:39.52 | jelly | Voyager82: sometimes it's the fault of per-user settings that makes an aspect of GUI fails |
| 15:40.43 | Voyager82 | jelly, should I have created a new user? I don't understand. |
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| 15:40.59 | SynrG | Voyager82: as a diagnostic |
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| 15:41.21 | jelly | Voyager82: it is quite possible that something in your $HOME broke with newer versions of software, instead of something global |
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| 15:41.38 | SynrG | Voyager82: debug by difference. the current user under the old system worked. breaks now. create a new user under the new system. does it break? if so, somewhere in the difference between the old user and the new user lies the problem. |
| 15:41.49 | SynrG | er, if not* |
| 15:42.08 | jelly | Voyager82: trying the GUI with a fresh user, with an empty $HOME and no saved settings, is a way to check whether this is the case |
| 15:42.36 | SynrG | Voyager82: anyway, we'll never know now (assuming the old system is totally gone now) |
| 15:42.40 | SynrG | useful to remember for next time :) |
| 15:42.47 | Technodrome | anyone? |
| 15:42.53 | Technodrome | logging traffic of a specific port? |
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| 15:43.02 | jelly | Voyager82: Debian typically does NOT change or fix any per-user settings in their home directories during the release upgrade process |
| 15:43.15 | SynrG | Technodrome: tcpdump |
| 15:43.29 | SynrG | Technodrome: and/or wireshark |
| 15:43.46 | jelly | Voyager82: this means you have to read the Release Notes for known issues, and other than that rely that upstream authors correctly deal with old configuration |
| 15:44.07 | Voyager82 | jelly, SynrG, actually I don't remember if I installed also proprietary software. Could it have been a problem? I'm considering all the possibilities. |
| 15:44.09 | SynrG | Technodrome: in case there's no gui on the system where you're doing the data collection, capture raw pcap with tcpdump, xfer it to your desktop and view with wireshark. |
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| 15:44.25 | Technodrome | no gui yeah |
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| 15:44.34 | SynrG | Technodrome: if you're both collecting & viewing on a desktop system, you can use wireshark directly to both capture and view. |
| 15:44.36 | Technodrome | i just want to have it logged to a file |
| 15:44.41 | jelly | Technodrome: tcpdump is your friend. |
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| 15:45.03 | SynrG | Technodrome: but the pcap is more useful to have than the text output by tcpdump |
| 15:45.22 | jelly | Technodrome: a common idiom might be something like tcpdump -n -i eth0 -s 0 -w/tmp/port-49152.pcap port 49152 & |
| 15:45.31 | SynrG | Technodrome: also look into snap len, as depending on what you want to know, you may need to capture more than the default (but will inflate your capture file size) |
| 15:45.45 | sgflt | is there a way to disable the 'Yes, do as I say!' prompt that apt wants me to enter when i try to remove sysvinit? |
| 15:45.51 | jelly | Technodrome: collect traffic, stop tcpdump after you collected it, then inspect the resulting .pcap with wireshark |
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| 15:46.30 | SynrG | Technodrome: yeah, -s 0 in jelly's example is the snap len thing :) |
| 15:47.09 | Voyager82 | jelly, SynrG, actually, I don't think the configuration of a specific userspace can be the issue. Actually the graphical interface makes problem before I log in through the graphical interface. |
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| 15:47.37 | SynrG | Voyager82: 'a problem' being what? |
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| 15:48.26 | Voyager82 | SynrG, the GUI didn't work. |
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| 15:49.16 | SynrG | Voyager82: well, "didn't work" is not much to go on. black screen? dropped to a text login prompt? something else? but i'm afraid it's all just speculation at this point. and yes, mixing in 3rd party stuff increases the likelihood of breakage on an upgrade. |
| 15:49.25 | jelly | sgflt: wild-ass gues: read about Force-LoopBreak in apt.conf manual |
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| 15:49.46 | SynrG | Voyager82: it's unlikely we'll know now what really happened, so not much point in exploring that any further. |
| 15:49.51 | jelly | !wayttd sgflt |
| 15:49.51 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, sgflt? |
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| 15:50.11 | jelly | Voyager82: do you still have the broken system available? |
| 15:50.21 | sgflt | install systemd -.- |
| 15:50.27 | Voyager82 | You're perfectly right, SynrG. Thank you for now. |
| 15:50.33 | jelly | sgflt: on which debian release? |
| 15:50.47 | sgflt | jelly the latest raspbian |
| 15:50.54 | petn-randall | ... |
| 15:51.00 | jelly | sgflt: um, raspbian is not debian |
| 15:51.01 | Voyager82 | jelly, actually, I was thinking of repeating the whole experience: install the old distro, and than use "apt-get dist-upgrade", to see what happens. |
| 15:51.03 | jelly | !raspbian |
| 15:51.03 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 15:51.44 | sgflt | alright, thanks |
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| 15:52.19 | SynrG | Voyager82: i'm sure it would go smoothly. that particular operation is very well tested. |
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| 15:52.37 | SynrG | Voyager82: but who knows, maybe there's some small corner case for your particular hardware where it doesn't ... |
| 15:52.53 | jelly | sgflt: if you can reproduce the same situation on actual debian testing, ask in #debian-next over on irc.oftc.net network (diffrnt network, not freenode!). |
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| 15:53.06 | SynrG | Voyager82: in general, though, upgrading from one debian release to another tends to go rather smoothly |
| 15:53.17 | Voyager82 | SynrG, mine is an old hardware. I'm afraind, maybe, not supported anymore. This were my worries. :) |
| 15:53.21 | sgflt | jelly, not worth the effort, i fixed it another way. was just wondering whether or not apt supported a switch |
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| 15:53.41 | SynrG | Voyager82: how old? s3 virge graphics or so? |
| 15:53.57 | jelly | sgflt: right. This isn't the place to ask generic apt questions tho. ##linux is the best place for that I'm afraid. |
| 15:54.30 | Voyager82 | Mine is an NVidia 400 MX video card. I think that the problem was related to that card. |
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| 15:54.48 | SynrG | i see, so really old legacy. you were using the non-free video driver? |
| 15:54.49 | sgflt | jelly, i thought apt was a front-end for dpkg? |
| 15:55.03 | Voyager82 | SynrG, I don't remember. |
| 15:55.10 | daslicht | anyone knows a service like this here but unlimited free : http://whois.domaintools.com/ |
| 15:55.16 | jelly | sgflt: ... this isn't the place to ask generic dpkg questions either, we cater to Debian only |
| 15:55.17 | sgflt | jelly doesn't the "d" stand for debian? the wikipedia page of apt even poitns to wiki.debian.org/Apt ? |
| 15:55.21 | SynrG | Voyager82: there was a bit of a shuffle with the nvidia legacy packages. it might not have updated cleanly for that reason. |
| 15:55.32 | cypherman | hi people |
| 15:56.06 | cypherman | in debian wheezy i see kernel 3.2 and in backports i see kernels 3.12 to 3.14... where i can add repos for intermediate kernels? like 3.9 and such? |
| 15:56.46 | Voyager82 | SynrG, that's why I was proposing that "dist-upgrade", might be difficult. I'm not "accusing" anybody. I'm just trying to solve my problem, and I don't want to buy a new computer. :) |
| 15:56.48 | SynrG | Voyager82: so it may be that you have a card that is handled fine in nouveau (default for a fresh install) but your old system was configured with the 'nvidia' driver, but then needed a specific legacy variant of the driver installed if you wanted to continue using non-free |
| 15:57.17 | jelly | cypherman: those would be old and unsupported. That said, take a look at http://snapshot.debian.org |
| 15:57.24 | SynrG | Voyager82: well, in general dist-upgrade is fine. but in particular, non-free and 3rd party software can be more problematic on upgrades than pure debian main upgrades. |
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| 15:58.23 | Voyager82 | SynrG, the problem maybe related to the fact that I included "non-free" in my old sources.list file. Could it be the cause of the trouble? |
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| 15:59.11 | SynrG | Voyager82: including non-free would not in and of itself cause problems, no ... but installing specific non-free packages from it (e.g. nvidia driver) might be |
| 15:59.17 | OmegaPhil | Are there any package maintainers (not 'Debian Maintainers' that work as part of the project under an alias, rather than using their real life details? |
| 15:59.37 | cypherman | jelly: i have a sony vaio pocket that runs fine with kernel 3.2 but the graphic driver make the screen flikers once in a while... and newer kernels in backports have nice graphic drivers but sound does not work and the laptop does not suspend... so i would like to try other kernels... |
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| 16:00.14 | SynrG | OmegaPhil: i think the project would prefer real names be used, but is not deaf to reasonable requests for exceptions |
| 16:00.30 | Voyager82 | SynrG, I don't remember what I did. SynrG, do you think there is a "tendency" not to support (very) old hardware, when people write new drivers? |
| 16:00.36 | SynrG | OmegaPhil: please disable your auto-away message. |
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| 16:01.11 | OmegaPhil | No - you'll get that if you highlight me once per status change (so dont highlight etc) |
| 16:01.20 | jelly | Voyager82: yes. free software driver authors sometimes break support for old hardware |
| 16:01.22 | SynrG | !tell OmegaPhil about away |
| 16:01.40 | jelly | Voyager82: if you report it and ask nicely, sometimes they're able to fix it back |
| 16:01.41 | SynrG | OmegaPhil: please comply anyway. it's our policy. |
| 16:02.00 | OmegaPhil | :/ |
| 16:02.15 | OmegaPhil | I'll leave soonish, dont worry. |
| 16:02.23 | SynrG | the factoid i gave you shows you how |
| 16:02.31 | OmegaPhil | (Its my script, there is no such functionality) |
| 16:02.32 | SynrG | it also tells you the consequences of non-compliance |
| 16:02.55 | OmegaPhil | Its a notice to you, not a PM to the channel. Anyway. |
| 16:03.04 | SynrG | it's still annoying |
| 16:03.40 | jelly | OmegaPhil: you're obviously talking and not away, so it's kind of a bug! |
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| 16:04.27 | kruug | he's obviously not complying, just kick him already :) |
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| 16:04.40 | SynrG | kruug: please don't backseat drive :p |
| 16:04.58 | SynrG | OmegaPhil: i believe there have been a few isolated cases. |
| 16:05.17 | kruug | hops into the passenger seat |
| 16:05.19 | kruug | :) |
| 16:05.26 | SynrG | (regarding your original question) |
| 16:05.46 | OmegaPhil | I have thought about maintaining a package for Debian, but I have a strict policy of anonymity (in reality pseudo anonymity) on the net unless its needed for money transfer/delivery |
| 16:06.03 | OmegaPhil | This is the internet! You do not give out your real details! |
| 16:06.04 | OmegaPhil | etc |
| 16:06.20 | jelly | this is not an insane policy, unfortunately |
| 16:06.42 | OmegaPhil | I notice that there is a distinction between maintainer and Debian maintainer: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/start.en.html#socialdynamics |
| 16:07.08 | OmegaPhil | Makes me think that 'maintainer' doesnt require RL details |
| 16:07.17 | SynrG | OmegaPhil: i think you need to talk to newmaint about this |
| 16:08.09 | SynrG | https://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/ |
| 16:08.13 | OmegaPhil | kk. I'm currently researching into what it takes to make/fix a debian directory associated with my Hardware Monitor applet port for XFCE - will do once I've finished reading |
| 16:08.30 | jelly | are you also upstream? |
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| 16:08.40 | kruug | OmegaPhil: why not follow bulletpoint 1.1 of that link you posted? |
| 16:08.42 | jelly | that would be a bonus I guess |
| 16:08.45 | OmegaPhil | Thanks for your help, and I've added a task to add a channel blacklist to my script |
| 16:09.00 | SynrG | i appreciate that. |
| 16:09.16 | OmegaPhil | jelly: looks like it |
| 16:09.18 | naquad | https://gist.github.com/naquad/9e96dfe9956a8de88684 - what is that and how do i fix it? (updated with policies) |
| 16:09.21 | alban_ | Hi everyone, I have no sound on my freshly installed jessie, could anyone help please ? |
| 16:09.28 | SynrG | OmegaPhil: that would smooth your interactions in all #debian* channels, btw, not just here |
| 16:09.45 | SynrG | OmegaPhil: so consider making it a channel blacklist *pattern* |
| 16:10.10 | OmegaPhil | The normal maintainer has moved on to other things, so it falls to me to keep it working on XFCE4 etc |
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| 16:10.16 | OmegaPhil | k... |
| 16:11.07 | OmegaPhil | Right, back to reading |
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| 16:11.55 | alban_ | Anyone there to help a poor newbie ? |
| 16:11.56 | mtn | alban_: go through the basic sound troubleshooting and if that does not work, you can go to #debian-next on the oftc.net server |
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| 16:12.38 | jelly | !tell alban_ about alsa checklist |
| 16:12.45 | alban_ | thx, I've already tried a couple of things though; ALSA seems to work, but I still have no sound |
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| 16:14.43 | mtn | naquad: please paste your sources.list to http://paste.debian.net and give us the link. |
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| 16:15.58 | naquad | mtn, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1ae267df/ |
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| 16:16.06 | Bombo | what was the command to list all installed packages that are NO standard packages? i mean .deb that i installed manually, even compiled manually |
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| 16:16.45 | MouseTheLuckyDog | I would like to write a simple script to download all the source for all the installed packages. Sometimes when I use apt-get source, I get a message that the application is downloading the source for package xyz. How can I find what package the source is going to be for ahead of time so I don't download things twice? |
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| 16:18.15 | jelly | MouseTheLuckyDog: dpkg -s libc6:i386 | grep ^Source: |
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| 16:18.34 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Thank you jelly. |
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| 16:19.18 | mtn | naquad: what does apt-cache policy gcc-multilib show you? |
| 16:19.53 | naquad | mtn, its in my gist, shows 500 http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages |
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| 16:21.16 | naquad | mtn, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/350e0672/ - drill down |
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| 16:21.53 | mtn | naquad: ok, sorry, I missed it. what does it show for gcc-4.7-base? |
| 16:21.57 | naquad | http://paste.debian.net/108734/ |
| 16:22.00 | naquad | thats down to libc |
| 16:22.07 | naquad | looks like my system had testing enabled :( |
| 16:22.32 | naquad | any script to quickly reinstall stable packages? |
| 16:22.34 | mtn | naquad: yes, that is what I was going to say :) |
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| 16:23.03 | mtn | naquad: the only way I know is to remove all of the affected packages or do a clean install |
| 16:23.10 | tremon | !partial downgrade |
| 16:23.11 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>. |
| 16:23.52 | tremon | it's possible, but the chance of success is low, especially if more than a few packages have been pulled from testing |
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| 16:32.30 | naquad | well, i've found the list of packages, but it is soooo bad gcc-4.7-multilib gcc-4.7 gcc-4.7-base lib32gcc1 lib32gomp1 lib32itm1 lib32quadmath0 libc6-dev-i386 gcc-4.7-base libc6-dev libc6-i386 libc6 |
| 16:33.03 | jelly | bad? Worse than a reinstallation? |
| 16:33.37 | jelly | that's a mere dozen packages and well isolated |
| 16:33.38 | naquad | jelly, well, not that bad |
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| 16:33.51 | jelly | (ignoring glibc ;-) |
| 16:34.03 | babilen | naquad: Ah, it was obvious that something like that happened. Pity that you couldn't paste that earlier, but glad that you finally managed. |
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| 16:42.48 | FaTony | hi, any1know why redeclipse-data is in non-free reposity? |
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| 16:45.31 | jmcnaught | FaTony: there's probably something in the package that didn't meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines... you can look at the package's copyright file, there might be some info there |
| 16:45.47 | jelly | FaTony: http://redeclipse.net/wiki/License does not look like the data is 100% DFSG compliant |
| 16:46.03 | jelly | > Content included in the game (maps, textures, sounds, models etc.) is NOT covered by this license, and may have individual copyrights and distribution restrictions (see individual readmes) |
| 16:46.08 | linuxthefish | why is /etc/boot/grub.conf blank? |
| 16:46.24 | jelly | linuxthefish: /etc/boot ? |
| 16:46.50 | linuxthefish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:47.02 | linuxthefish | # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update |
| 16:47.03 | linuxthefish | # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. |
| 16:47.32 | esakish | linuxthefish, /etc/defaults/grub |
| 16:47.33 | jelly | linuxthefish: /boot/grub/grub.conf isn't blank for me. Which debian release is this and what's the timestamp on the file? Is this a VPS? |
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| 16:48.08 | linuxthefish | dedicated server |
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| 16:49.10 | jelly | waits for linuxthefish to answer the other two questions |
| 16:49.42 | linuxthefish | wait is ok reboot was correct! |
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| 16:55.03 | jelly | initramfs: do NOT irc as root, connect as normal user if you want to be able to speak in here |
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| 16:55.46 | linuxthefish | irc as root ftw |
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| 16:56.05 | SynrG | Mawaai: and no, a nick change will not help :) |
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| 16:57.14 | mad_hatter | hey folks |
| 16:57.32 | mad_hatter | I'm having an issue with gnome3: it says it failed to load because of some error with my graphics card |
| 16:57.46 | mad_hatter | I have a brand new system I'm not sure why it wouldn't be compatible |
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| 17:00.11 | jmcnaught | mad_hatter: what video card do you have, specifically what do you get from "lspci -nn | grep VGA" (use http://paste.debian.net if more than one line) |
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| 17:03.15 | mad_hatter | jmcnaught, http://paste.debian.net/108746/ |
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| 17:03.40 | Harcy | Hi |
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| 17:04.51 | Harcy | Hmm, weird. I can't access this channel from my VPS, can my VPS IP accidentally blocked? |
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| 17:05.24 | SynrG | Harcy: or intentionally? |
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| 17:06.39 | jmcnaught | mad_hatter: hmmm... someone else might have a better suggestion but you could try a newer kernel from wheezy-backports |
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| 17:11.58 | linuxthefish | why no ipv6 support in debian? |
| 17:11.59 | linuxthefish | RTNETLINK answers: Operation not supported |
| 17:12.23 | zinx | debian has ipv6 support. |
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| 17:12.48 | mad_hatter | jmcnaught, for some reason I can't run the command 'deb' |
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| 17:13.45 | jmcnaught | mad_hatter: deb is not a command. are you trying to add backports? |
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| 17:14.08 | kruug | mad_hatter: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:14.26 | mad_hatter | https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
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| 17:14.35 | mad_hatter | ive been googling my problem and I came upon this |
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| 17:14.48 | jmcnaught | mad_hatter: didn't you just tell us you have an Intel video card? |
| 17:14.53 | mad_hatter | yes |
| 17:15.00 | mad_hatter | but the commands would be similar right? |
| 17:15.05 | kruug | mad_hatter: run `vim /etc/apt/sources.list` |
| 17:15.05 | SynrG | no |
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| 17:16.31 | kruug | mad_hatter: https://wiki.debian.org/GraphicsCard#Intel |
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| 17:18.47 | jmcnaught | kruug: mad_hatter doesn't have either of the cards listed at that link |
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| 17:21.33 | jmcnaught | !tell mad_hatter about wheezy backports |
| 17:21.39 | jmcnaught | !tell mad_hatter about bdo kernel |
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| 17:22.26 | linuxthefish | there is no support for ipv6 in debian with auto |
| 17:22.30 | jmcnaught | mad_hatter: dpkg bot should have messaged you some info on adding backports and installing a newer kernel. see also http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ for more info on backport |
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| 17:22.57 | mad_hatter | so you think that's the problem? |
| 17:23.03 | kruug | linuxthefish: couldn't you just set your dhcp server to ipv6? |
| 17:23.07 | mad_hatter | I need a newer kernel? |
| 17:23.13 | SynrG | ,pciid [8086:0412] |
| 17:23.14 | judd | [8086:0412] is 'Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0412 |
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| 17:23.20 | SynrG | ,pciid [8086:0412] --release jessie |
| 17:23.21 | judd | [8086:0412] is 'Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'i915', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0412 |
| 17:23.25 | linuxthefish | kruug no dhcp client... |
| 17:23.40 | SynrG | mad_hatter: ^^ not supported in wheezy (no i915 listed). *is* supported in jessie |
| 17:23.40 | jmcnaught | mad_hatter: i think it might help. someone else might have a better suggestion. you might just need some configuration in xorg.conf |
| 17:23.48 | linuxthefish | i have DUID |
| 17:24.02 | SynrG | mad_hatter: therefore at least you need the backported kernel. whether or not that alone fixes it is a gamble |
| 17:24.02 | Dagger2 | linuxthefish: Debian (with Debian kernels) has v6 support unless you've explicitly disabled it |
| 17:24.14 | linuxthefish | where do i put the DUID from my ISP? |
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| 17:24.22 | SynrG | mad_hatter: it could possibly need a more recent xorg. but there is no backport of that. |
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| 17:24.45 | mad_hatter | okay |
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| 17:24.49 | mad_hatter | so I'll try a backported kernel then |
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| 17:26.32 | SynrG | hmm |
| 17:26.36 | SynrG | ,v libdrm-intel1 |
| 17:26.37 | judd | Package: libdrm-intel1 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.4.21-1~squeeze3; squeeze-multimedia: 2.4.23-0.0; squeeze-backports: 2.4.26-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.4.40-1~deb7u2; jessie: 2.4.54-1; sid: 2.4.54-1 |
| 17:26.53 | SynrG | yeah, and no libdrm backport either :/ |
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| 17:27.12 | jelly | no wheezy'n'half for you |
| 17:27.13 | TheWarden | Hello |
| 17:27.27 | linuxthefish | Error opening '/proc/net/if_inet6' to list IPv6 interfaces; No such file or directory |
| 17:27.30 | SynrG | oh, wait ... |
| 17:27.32 | linuxthefish | debian dhcp bug |
| 17:27.33 | SynrG | ,v libdrm2 |
| 17:27.33 | judd | Package: libdrm2 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.4.21-1~squeeze3; squeeze-multimedia: 2.4.23-0.0; squeeze-backports: 2.4.26-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.4.40-1~deb7u2; jessie: 2.4.54-1; sid: 2.4.54-1 |
| 17:27.39 | SynrG | newp :) |
| 17:27.51 | TheWarden | When one runs dpkg --get-selections what does it mean when the state is "deinstall"? |
| 17:29.19 | TheWarden | If there uninstalled why would they be still listed? |
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| 17:29.34 | stevelitt | Referring to http://paste.debian.net/108753/ , am I violating any laws or customs by the way I used mknod to create /dev/loopimg? |
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| 17:31.01 | bumbar | running df command i get the following output: https://dpaste.de/mas2 - does that mean i'm (almost) out of space? |
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| 17:31.35 | mad_hatter | SynrG: so after adding the backports repository, i would do aptitude -t wheezy-backports install <kernel> |
| 17:31.37 | mad_hatter | ? |
| 17:31.44 | frostschutz | bumbar, yep |
| 17:31.48 | SynrG | e.g. linux-image-amd64 |
| 17:31.48 | SynrG | yes |
| 17:32.27 | SynrG | mad_hatter: if you have any dkms packages (out of tree kernel modules) you need the corresponding linux-headers-amd64 too |
| 17:32.35 | SynrG | e.g. virtualbox and the like |
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| 17:33.24 | mad_hatter | I dont thik I have that |
| 17:33.31 | kruug | bumbar: just a future tip, run `df -h` |
| 17:33.40 | mad_hatter | root@debian:/var/log# aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
| 17:33.40 | mad_hatter | E: The value 'wheezy-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 17:33.40 | kruug | puts it in an easier to read format :) |
| 17:33.43 | stevelitt | bumbar, looks to me like you're in dangerous territory. I'd immediately move some content to an external disk or thumb drive, and then prune things. Bad stuff happens when your root partition actually gets full. |
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| 17:34.10 | bumbar | i'm supposed to have 50gb available, how can i resize? |
| 17:35.11 | bumbar | i've tried resize2fs but it said there's nothing to do |
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| 17:35.44 | floyin | bumbar: did you recently delete a large file? and if so did df not reflect the change in free space? |
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| 17:36.38 | SynrG | mad_hatter: you failed to apt-get update |
| 17:36.55 | SynrG | or aptitude update |
| 17:37.09 | floyin | bumbar: I had something similar when I deleted $HOME/.xsession errors (the file was 12GB). I needed to restart X for df to show that space was freed because X still had the deleted file open. |
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| 17:37.32 | bumbar | floyin, i didn't delete anything, but i get an error (no space left on device) when i try to update csgo server |
| 17:37.33 | SynrG | mad_hatter: that's needed after any change to sources.list so apt/aptitude have the package lists from the repos |
| 17:37.45 | mad_hatter | ahh it's working now |
| 17:37.52 | mad_hatter | so...after this finishes i should just be able to reboot |
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| 17:38.32 | floyin | bumbar: possbly run "apt-get autoclean" and "apt-get autoremove" to clear out some old packages that are just caches |
| 17:38.47 | stevelitt | bumbar, I'd advise you to move at least 10GB of content to a USB drive or thumb drive right now, before you reboot. I've had Linux installations fail to boot when they ran out of space on /, and I had to go in and fix them with System Rescue CD. |
| 17:39.22 | bumbar | floyin, i did that before |
| 17:39.31 | bumbar | stevelitt, i don't have physical access to server |
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| 17:39.36 | stevelitt | bumbar, in my opinion you have a potentially serious problem here, and I'd bandage the symptom right now, and worry about fixing the root cause once the immediate risk is averted. |
| 17:39.48 | nofear | <nofear> hi [20:33] <nofear> someone there [20:33] <nofear> i need a little help [20:33] <nofear> sorry for my bad english [20:34] <nofear> i am with nvidia gt520M optinus on debian 7.5 wheezy [20:34] <nofear> i try to install bumblebee with bbswitch, but i cant find library for bbswitch [20:34] <nofear> can someone tell me where can i find it [20:37] <nofear> someone? |
| 17:39.50 | stevelitt | bumbar, can you rsync it somewhere else? |
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| 17:40.42 | kruug | \o/ `No non-free or contrib packages installed on Kruug! rms would be proud.` |
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| 17:40.54 | nofear | i am with nvidia gt520M optinus on debian 7.5 wheezy i try to install bumblebee with bbswitch, but i cant find library for bbswitch can someone tell me where can i find it |
| 17:40.55 | floyin | bumbar: after doing what stevelitt says, you could check what's eating your space with ncdu |
| 17:41.08 | mad_hatter | SynrG, after the aptitude command complete i should just be able to reboot correct? |
| 17:41.27 | SynrG | assuming no errors, yes |
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| 17:41.41 | stevelitt | floyin, bumbar , personally, right after he moves the files, I'd reboot to get to a known state, and *then* I'd check what's eating the space. |
| 17:41.45 | mad_hatter | SynrG, no errors, two warnings |
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| 17:41.54 | mad_hatter | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw for module r8169 |
| 17:42.17 | floyin | stevelitt: agreed |
| 17:42.21 | SynrG | warning only. if you have no r8169 nic, you don't need to worry |
| 17:43.11 | daslicht | hello, after restarting my server i get : |
| 17:43.12 | SynrG | mad_hatter: otherwise, you could install the backport for firmware-linux-nonfree too (do you already have the wheezy version of this?) |
| 17:43.17 | daslicht | ./var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket: Permission denied |
| 17:43.36 | daslicht | i can fix the permision mannually to make it work but on each reboot its messed uop gain |
| 17:43.44 | daslicht | any idea how to fix this? |
| 17:44.06 | kruug | SynrG: he's gone :) |
| 17:44.49 | nofear | i am with nvidia gt520M optinus on debian 7.5 wheezy i try to install bumblebee with bbswitch, but i cant find library for bbswitch can someone tell me where can i find it |
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| 17:45.32 | converge | is security.debian.org slow for u ? |
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| 17:46.31 | mad_hatter | well i didn't get gnome3 on reboot...any ideas as to what to try next? |
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| 17:47.00 | jelly | mad_hatter: what _did_ you get on reboot? |
| 17:47.00 | stevelitt | mad_hatter, what *did* you get on reboot? |
| 17:47.08 | kruug | nofear: check bbswitch-dkms |
| 17:47.09 | stevelitt | lol jelly |
| 17:47.25 | bumbar | floyin, stevelitt, i was able to resize with web interface |
| 17:47.30 | mad_hatter | nothing different lol |
| 17:47.36 | nofear | thanks kruug , i will try now |
| 17:47.43 | mad_hatter | except two new entries in Grub |
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| 17:48.04 | stevelitt | bumbar, before, or after rebooting? What do you mean by "resize"? Which web interface? |
| 17:48.29 | stevelitt | bumbar, lvm? |
| 17:49.18 | kruug | I have 24.7 GB in /home/kruug/.local/share/Trash. I should be able to clear everything out of there, yeah? That's like Windows' Recycle.Bin, correct? |
| 17:49.48 | centrx | kruug, Yes, it comes from your desktop environment |
| 17:50.33 | bumbar | stevelitt, i have a vps at linode.com, had to shutdown the server, and then clicked edit on disk and entered new size :) |
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| 17:50.47 | bumbar | so no idea how it was done |
| 17:51.26 | nofear | kruug: it look like install with no problem, but how can i switch between the intel and nvidia card, bbswitch doesn't work |
| 17:51.38 | nofear | i mean no command "bbswitch" |
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| 17:52.14 | kruug | nofear: `man bbswitch` |
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| 17:52.46 | nofear | "No manual entry for bbswitch" |
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| 17:53.09 | vereteran | is there something like busybox, but having commands builtin instead of having a bunch of symbolic links? |
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| 17:53.33 | kruug | nofear: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch |
| 17:53.36 | kruug | under Usage |
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| 17:55.21 | Brigo | vereteran, busybox, of course. Man busybox |
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| 17:57.44 | vereteran | Brigo, it explicitly states what i just did: it is a multicall binary. it'll want me to create links anyway |
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| 17:58.30 | mad_hatter | well I guess I can live with gnome2 |
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| 17:58.51 | vereteran | Brigo, oh! |
| 17:58.51 | Brigo | vereteran, no it not. You can use running '/bin/busybox ls' if you want |
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| 17:59.11 | vereteran | indeed after busybox ash i'm getting native utils |
| 17:59.14 | kruug | mad_hatter: xfce |
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| 17:59.23 | vereteran | just which ls -> /usr/bin/ls confused me |
| 17:59.24 | jmcnaught | mad_hatter: it seems to be that the drivers needed by your GPU are not in wheezy or wheezy-backports. They will be in Jessie (which is currently the testing distro). |
| 18:00.27 | mad_hatter | kruug: xfce sounds neat... is there a wiki on going from gnome2 to xfce ? |
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| 18:00.57 | Bungofant | xfce rocks... loving it |
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| 18:01.38 | kruug | to be fair, I think I'm actually running lxde... |
| 18:01.45 | kruug | just needed something lite |
| 18:02.11 | Shadow_7 | icewm, jwm, cwm, dwm, are all pretty light |
| 18:02.18 | Bungofant | ok, lxde is lighter than xfce |
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| 18:04.05 | nofear | kruug: i see now, but last question, what must be fps on optirun glxgears -info, and wht optirun glxgears --opengl do nothing? |
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| 18:06.53 | Technodrome | how can I see the HTTP request through tcpdump |
| 18:07.02 | Technodrome | i see the request happening, but i dont see the actual http request itself |
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| 18:08.32 | Shadow_7 | you can packet capture and examine it in hexedit or hexdump. |
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| 18:09.25 | jelly | Technodrome: in wireshark, find a packet matching your request, right click, follow tcp stream |
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| 18:09.30 | Technodrome | no wireshark |
| 18:09.36 | jelly | why no wireshark? |
| 18:09.36 | Technodrome | all terminal here right now |
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| 18:10.20 | jelly | couldn't be bothered to learn doing that with just tcpdump |
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| 18:22.02 | smv_ | some time ago I created some cron jobs and then I deleted them, but for some reason they seem to be run over and over again. any ideea where I should search for the left over cron jobs? |
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| 18:23.48 | Shadow_7 | smv_: /etc/cron.*/ ??? although it might just be in RAM if your didn't restart cron or reboot |
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| 18:24.34 | Shadow_7 | if you set it up as a user it could be somewhere in ~/.config/ |
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| 18:24.57 | smv_ | restarting the cron daemon should remove them if there are not left in any file, right? |
| 18:25.07 | smv_ | s/there/they |
| 18:25.30 | Shadow_7 | smv_: I don't normally use cron. In fact I intentionally stop it after booting. |
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| 18:26.01 | kruug | What's the easiest way to remove old kernels? What about Linux-Headers? |
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| 18:26.24 | Shadow_7 | kruug: via the package management system, if that's what installed them. |
| 18:27.18 | day | what would be an appropriate place to put: 'export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8'? To be executed every bootup |
| 18:27.23 | sandman13 | kruug: find the old kernel's name, use package manager |
| 18:27.30 | kruug | http://paste.debian.net/108758/ Should I get rid of the 3.13 and 3.2? |
| 18:27.34 | Brigo | day, .bashrc |
| 18:27.35 | Shadow_7 | kruug: most contents in /lib/modules/ and /boot/ for kernels. headers are slightly different in that those have the .h includes. |
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| 18:28.12 | smv_ | Shadow_7: thanks for the hint. the server has run just fine for ~2 years and since is a huge xen dom0 it would be a disaster to reboot just for the darn cron being run twice a day... |
| 18:29.29 | Shadow_7 | smv_: heh... 2 years of no security updates in the kernel... living dangerously. |
| 18:29.59 | smv_ | dmz behind shorewall |
| 18:30.07 | sandman13 | kruug: whichever you want 3.14 and 3.2 are LTS versions of Linux kernels |
| 18:30.23 | jolt | https://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/ksplice is a nice alternative |
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| 18:30.44 | kruug | sandman13: is 3.14 greater than 3.2? |
| 18:31.01 | tethra | kruug: yes |
| 18:31.03 | sandman13 | kruug: few improvements are there |
| 18:31.19 | tethra | it's the latest long term support kernel |
| 18:31.41 | sandman13 | kruug: Internet is there ;) |
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| 18:37.53 | lk221 | looks like kernel 3.14 is in wheezy-backports |
| 18:37.59 | lk221 | cool |
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| 18:40.44 | subz3r0 | hi |
| 18:41.02 | subz3r0 | havin an issue with my netbook... the hibernation mode isnt working |
| 18:41.12 | subz3r0 | it shuts the netbook completely off |
| 18:41.45 | subz3r0 | normaly i would expect that i can wake it up in seconds |
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| 18:42.51 | Brigo | !tell Voyager82 about backports |
| 18:42.58 | Brigo | !tell Voyager82 about wheezy backport |
| 18:43.01 | Brigo | !tell Voyager82 about ssb |
| 18:43.08 | subz3r0 | :D |
| 18:43.25 | linuxthefish | how do i edit resolv.conf? |
| 18:43.39 | linuxthefish | it's telling me do not edit directly but it's wrong search domain and nameservers! |
| 18:43.47 | linuxthefish | DHCP gives ones i don't want to use |
| 18:44.00 | Brigo | !tell Voyager82 about wheezy backports |
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| 18:44.56 | Brigo | linuxguy101, if you chang resolv.conf by yourself, hdcp will update it and delete your modifies |
| 18:45.04 | jmcnaught | linuxthefish: are you using resolveconf? |
| 18:45.31 | linuxthefish | yes, and i edited it's files |
| 18:45.39 | linuxthefish | can i edit resolv.conf manually now? |
| 18:45.48 | subz3r0 | yes |
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| 18:45.57 | Shadow_7 | linuxthefish: if you don't mind a little grunt work and have root access. You can cp the resolv.conf over the /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:46.16 | linuxthefish | thanks both |
| 18:46.22 | jmcnaught | linuxthefish: resolvconf will probably overwrite your changes. you could remove resolvconf perhaps if you don't want to use it, or read the man page to see how it works |
| 18:46.36 | Shadow_7 | resolvconf is a different beast and having resolv.conf might interfere. |
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| 18:46.55 | subz3r0 | no one an idea about the hibernation mode? why can i see the complete POST. with ubuntu it worked like a charme. also ive to renter the luks pass at boot. whats not funny all the time |
| 18:47.40 | Shadow_7 | subz3r0: are you sure that you're hibernating and not suspending? one requires swap to host the contents of RAM. |
| 18:48.07 | jmcnaught | subz3r0: do you have a swap partition? also it's normal to have to enter luks password at boot even when coming out of hibernate |
| 18:48.30 | subz3r0 | i tried both. result it is shuts completely down. normaly i would expect a blinking LED which shows me that its not completely turned off |
| 18:48.57 | subz3r0 | jmcnaught: nope. i dont have to type in the luks pass. since with ubuntu it did not reboot completely(no post ofc...) |
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| 18:49.19 | jmcnaught | subz3r0: well, if your swap partition is encrypted that is |
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| 18:49.48 | subz3r0 | when i hit here "hibernation" it shuts down the pc. after the boot i can see all opened programs from before. but thats not what i would expect |
| 18:49.55 | subz3r0 | swap is encrypted ofc |
| 18:50.06 | subz3r0 | ohterwise encryption is kinda useless, dont u think? |
| 18:50.21 | subz3r0 | anyways. this doesnt resolv my problem :) |
| 18:50.24 | galex-713 | Hello |
| 18:50.57 | jmcnaught | subz3r0: you can se all opened programs from before? what do you expect hibernate to do? |
| 18:51.09 | subz3r0 | "jmcnaught> subz3r0: do you have a swap partition? also it's normal to have to enter luks password at boot even when coming out of hibernate" not really. since ubuntu was able to manage it. it used another powerstate, indicated by the blinking LED |
| 18:51.10 | galex-713 | Trying to install a package, dpkg says me thereâs a configuration problem with dhcpd, which says in syslog âNot configured to listen on any interfaces!â |
| 18:51.20 | lotherk | why is irc disabled in kopete on jessie? |
| 18:51.39 | lotherk | I mean, is this for a special reason or just a typo or something? |
| 18:51.49 | lotherk | does anyone know? |
| 18:51.49 | subz3r0 | jmcnaught: well, waking up from this powerstate is like a normal boot. with ubuntu it was back in seconds |
| 18:52.01 | galex-713 | /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf: https://paste.galex-713.eu/?5ce3044ff5123a5a#gEPPgMmojd2aLINQJjEGzJJ0XxX3O6TU43npTfD19RA= |
| 18:52.17 | jmcnaught | subz3r0: but it's brought you back to the state before hibernation right? Are you just complaining about speed? |
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| 18:52.57 | subz3r0 | jmcnaught: yes ofc speed. and i dont want to retype the luks password everywhere i am |
| 18:52.59 | rryoumaa | is there a place somewhere that stores every version of a package? |
| 18:53.12 | rryoumaa | i vaguely recall one, but can't seem to find it |
| 18:53.31 | subz3r0 | jmcnaught: debian must use a different powerstate... i dont know. thats why im here. since i want the old behaviour back ofc |
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| 18:53.48 | Shadow_7 | rryoumaa: in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if you don't remove them and if you only want the ones you downloaded / installed. |
| 18:54.12 | subz3r0 | also i dont see a real difference between "hibernate" and "standby" in xfce |
| 18:54.38 | jmcnaught | subz3r0: sorry i don't know why debian takes longer to come out of hibernate than what you're used to with ubuntu. On my system I have to enter luks password if I've hibernated, and I wouldn't have it any other way. |
| 18:55.07 | subz3r0 | uhmm thats weird now |
| 18:55.17 | subz3r0 | "standby" is what i wanted |
| 18:55.44 | Shadow_7 | subz3r0: you might be suspending, which saves state to swap and shuts down. hibernate is supposed to just go low power and wake up periodically the refresh the contents of ram. |
| 18:55.50 | rryoumaa | Shadow_7: hmm, i must remove them. but i was hoping to compare hashes of binaries of various ersions to debug something |
| 18:56.30 | rryoumaa | namely, my filesystems are going insane with inodes, ctime, and mtime changes and i just found a possible hash mismatch, but not sure |
| 18:56.34 | jmcnaught | Shadow_7: hibernate saves state to swap and powers off no? Suspend leaves power to ram and powers everything else off. |
| 18:56.50 | smyers | Yeah, I think Shadow_7 has it backwards |
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| 18:56.54 | subz3r0 | all fine now. but weird thing is that it did not work 30 mins ago. changed some boot parameters in grub |
| 18:56.59 | smyers | suspend doesn't shut down, hibernate does |
| 18:57.23 | Shadow_7 | rryoumaa: there could be a few recent versions of packages in the pool of the archives in your apt sources.list |
| 18:57.38 | Shadow_7 | I probably do have it backwards... I don't use that stuff |
| 18:58.09 | jmcnaught | suspend wouldn't ask for luks password, but it makes sense for hibernate to |
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| 18:58.17 | Shadow_7 | but my systems are pretty minimal so boot times are a non-issue |
| 18:58.23 | subz3r0 | thanks guys :) |
| 18:58.44 | subz3r0 | just one more issue. isnt .profile for executing commands after login in? |
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| 18:59.30 | subz3r0 | since my doesnt have some functions and i ve to use "synclient TapButton1=1" all the time after boot |
| 18:59.41 | subz3r0 | +touchpad |
| 19:00.16 | subz3r0 | also no bash_profile there. just create it and add the cmd? |
| 19:00.25 | subz3r0 | or is systemd used in debian 7? |
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| 19:01.03 | smyers | Mine is systemd, but for the life of me I can't remember if I installed it or not :\ |
| 19:01.20 | gotmynick | systemd is not used in debian 7 by default as far as I know |
| 19:01.46 | smyers | yerp...https://wiki.debian.org/systemd |
| 19:01.50 | smyers | I must've installed it |
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| 19:02.06 | subz3r0 | just want to use some cmds at start up. could use the dirty trick and use it when eth0 goes up... but not very elegant |
| 19:02.17 | Shadow_7 | smyers: it seems to be an update in recent times if you use testing/sid |
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| 19:03.11 | smyers | This is on a wheezy box. I'm pretty sure I followed that wiki page... |
| 19:03.30 | smyers | So yeah, make the bash_profile, or sidegrade to systemd and bang out a unit |
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| 19:05.16 | smyers | Or, subz3r0, put it in /etc/rc.local. Seems like the appropriate place |
| 19:05.50 | subz3r0 | smyers: but thats for all users |
| 19:06.01 | subz3r0 | want it just for one :) |
| 19:06.05 | smyers | ah |
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| 19:06.30 | smyers | I assumed that it's a laptop with only one user :) |
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| 19:06.44 | subz3r0 | not all the time ;) |
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| 19:11.42 | day | any idea how i can approach this storage problem ? |
| 19:11.59 | day | ups wrong channel |
| 19:12.06 | subz3r0 | nope, no idea. |
| 19:12.30 | subz3r0 | but a sledge hammer is a good start :D |
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| 19:14.16 | subz3r0 | smyers: wont work. tried it in rc.local. but tapping on the touchpad for left click does not work after loggin in... |
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| 19:18.07 | smyers | I thought we already ruled out rc.local? I don't know enough about how synclient works to say what the best place to do it would be. Maybe on gnome startup via gnome-session-properties would work, but does synclient need root to work? Is it independent of your x session? Persistent? |
| 19:20.25 | smyers | But all the way back to your original question, ~/.bash_profile should work when you start bash, ~/.profile should also be loaded when loading a shell, but I'm assuming you're not using your touchpad in bash? |
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| 19:23.36 | void | hiii |
| 19:23.44 | abrotman | apparently |
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| 19:24.16 | void | every time a user want to shutdown the pc it asks for the root password the same story if this person want to access to another partition .. is there any way to disable it and make it works for a normal user ? |
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| 19:25.51 | Shadow_7 | void: there the users parameter for /etc/fstab for the partition mount/umount ability |
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| 19:26.43 | Shadow_7 | void: perhaps sudo for the shutdown? |
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| 19:29.38 | void | he's in the sudoers .... in .. /etc/fstab |
| 19:29.50 | void | i understand it but i dont know how to apply iy |
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| 19:30.38 | Shadow_7 | he also has to be in the groups for those. disk? sudo? |
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| 19:31.56 | void | he's in sudoers he can do apt-get etc etc ... but in the gui when this person want to shutdown the pc a popup asks for root password |
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| 19:32.26 | tholu | How can I move the start of my /boot partition? |
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| 19:32.34 | Shadow_7 | void: root specifically? or admin? should be able to use their password at the prompt |
| 19:32.35 | tholu | I need to create a post-MBR gap |
| 19:32.46 | void | root ... |
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| 19:33.55 | Shadow_7 | tholu: archive it with tar, and recreate it, the unarchive it? Since after boot /boot isn't really an active filesystem. |
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| 19:34.29 | tholu | Shadow_7, hmm ok, this could work, I already copied the contents of it |
| 19:34.45 | Shadow_7 | tholu: you may need to re-install the bootloader after that. Depending on which you use |
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| 19:35.02 | tholu | Shadow_7, the problem actually is, that I cannot install grub2 because of the missing post-MBR gap |
| 19:35.05 | Shadow_7 | or if the bootloader resides in "that" /boot/ |
| 19:35.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Harcy about root |
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| 19:37.02 | Shadow_7 | tholu: you could always move the /boot/ partition onto the / filesystem. Unless you have some sort of encryption / raid setup. |
| 19:37.13 | tholu | I also backed up the MBR |
| 19:37.44 | tholu | Shadow_7, I'm inside a kvm VM with virtio block devices as disks |
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| 19:39.18 | ochiottes | i'm looking for an http proxy. are there any good alternatives to squid? even the testing repos are offering a six year old version of squid which leads me to thinking squid might not be the number one choice among proxies |
| 19:39.55 | abrotman | ochiottes: I think you want squid3, not squid |
| 19:40.11 | ochiottes | oh, thanks! |
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| 19:41.10 | ag4ve | since i compile vanilla kernels with make-kpkg - what's the best way to ignore the generic images/headers? |
| 19:42.11 | Shadow_7 | ag4ve: define ignore? not default to them in the bootloader? not see them at all ever? |
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| 19:47.15 | ag4ve | when i did a dist-upgrade, it wanted to install: linux-headers-3.13.0-30-generic linux-image-3.13.0-30-generic |
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| 19:47.40 | ag4ve | i don't want it to ever try to install that unless i specifically tell it to |
| 19:47.58 | ag4ve | along with linux-tools(-common) |
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| 19:50.12 | tremon | debian doesn't produce -generic kernels |
| 19:50.36 | abrotman | ag4ve: please ask #ubuntu for support |
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| 19:52.44 | tremon | iirc make-kpkg has been deprecated for a while. You should be able just do make deb-pkg on the pristine kernel sources |
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| 19:55.59 | DarkLuna9000 | do you guys know a quick command to show free space on all drives? |
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| 19:57.09 | Shadow_7 | quick in execution or quick as in one liner, minimal keystrokes? |
| 19:57.51 | subz3r0 | df -h |
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| 19:59.26 | ag4ve | well, i didn't get the answer i wanted but make deb-pkg is worth it |
| 19:59.31 | ag4ve | thanks |
| 19:59.59 | hopthrisC | can i find out _why_ aptitude thinks a package has broken dependencies? (if that even is my problem) |
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| 20:01.23 | Shadow_7 | hopthrisC: depends on _how_ you want to find out. afaik it's open source, aka the documentation is in the code. |
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| 20:02.13 | Shadow_7 | hopthrisC: assuming no ppa's and apt-get update is current there shouldn't be broken deps on the stable tree. |
| 20:02.39 | hopthrisC | i'm still trying to even find the right questions to ask |
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| 20:02.54 | hopthrisC | i think it boils down to this (one example of a few on this server): |
| 20:03.20 | hopthrisC | aptitude install wants to install exim-daemon-light, even though nullmailer is installed |
| 20:03.33 | Shadow_7 | sid tends to break deps in that the upload times for the new packages of the deps might delay the up to date-ness by a few hours, or a day. |
| 20:03.41 | tholu | Shadow_7, seems to have worked to recreate the boot partition with parted and install it then |
| 20:03.43 | hopthrisC | nullmailer is listed as 'iB', exim4-daemon-light is listed as 'pB' |
| 20:03.52 | hopthrisC | Shadow_7: nono, this is wheezy |
| 20:04.19 | hopthrisC | i think aptitude tries to satisfy th the dependencies of exim (at the cost of nullmailer) |
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| 20:04.37 | Shadow_7 | hopthrisC: does apt-get have the same issue? |
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| 20:05.02 | hopthrisC | apt-get does not want to install any packages at the moment, no |
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| 20:06.31 | Shadow_7 | I've never used aptitude much. It was useful at a time to use known terms like kde instead of kde4 that is the .deb name. Perhaps it has it's own update process? |
| 20:06.53 | Shadow_7 | or whatever kde goes by these days. |
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| 20:08.50 | qsuscs | what should i run after having changed /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 20:09.13 | hopthrisC | qsuscs: depends, what have you changed? |
| 20:09.13 | Shadow_7 | plus the apt-get repositories are better at virtual packaging, negating the need for aptitude. |
| 20:09.25 | qsuscs | hopthrisC: add a new ipv6 tunnel interface |
| 20:09.41 | hopthrisC | qsuscs: are you sitting at the keyboard? |
| 20:10.13 | qsuscs | hopthrisC: i currently connect via mosh (which survived /etc/init.d/networking restart), but i have KVM somewhere |
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| 20:10.57 | hopthrisC | qsuscs: so... if it already worked, why do you need to know what to do? |
| 20:11.46 | hopthrisC | s/know/ask/ |
| 20:11.47 | qsuscs | hopthrisC: because the new v6 address isnât pingable from outside, and that command says Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces |
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| 20:13.26 | diana | http://www.4rog.eu/2014/07/cinnamon.html |
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| 20:14.29 | hopthrisC | qsuscs: i'm not really familiar with ipv6-tunnels in interfaces... you use the 6to4 method? this creates an additional interface, right? |
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| 20:17.17 | qsuscs | hopthrisC: itâs 6in4, but it does create an additional interface, config snippet http://pastie.org/private/riga6y3zful6jubgoo4a6g |
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| 20:18.23 | hopthrisC | qsuscs: nothing in your last message is true |
| 20:18.30 | hopthrisC | well, the url is correct, i suppose |
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| 20:18.46 | hopthrisC | oh, sorry, only the 6in4-part is false :) |
| 20:18.49 | qsuscs | i doubt so. |
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| 20:19.21 | qsuscs | i have another tunnelbroker.net tunnel here, and configured my router webinterface to "6in4", and it works |
| 20:19.39 | qsuscs | additionally, i copied the config part directly from tunnelbroker.net, i suppose itâs correct |
| 20:19.45 | hopthrisC | qsuscs: ifup he-ipv6, no need to restart all interfaces |
| 20:20.11 | qsuscs | ifup: interface he-ipv6 already configured |
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| 20:20.18 | hopthrisC | ifdown it then |
| 20:20.23 | hopthrisC | ifup has -v flag |
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| 20:20.42 | subz3r0 | hopthrisC: about broken packages... never mix ip apt-get and aptitude |
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| 20:20.58 | subz3r0 | dependencies.. |
| 20:21.14 | hopthrisC | subz3r0: i didn't, but now i have the mess |
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| 20:22.00 | hopthrisC | i have to go, i'll ask again later |
| 20:22.02 | hopthrisC | thank you |
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| 20:24.16 | qsuscs | hopthrisC: ifup -v he-ipv6 runs errorless and does what tunnelbroker.net suggests for iproute2 but one detail: ip route add ::/0 via 2001:470:1f12:aa8::1 dev he-ipv6, where they⢠omit "via $addr" |
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| 20:28.36 | chovy | when is debian 8 going to be released? |
| 20:28.57 | towo` | when it's done |
| 20:29.01 | qsuscs | chovy: when itâs done. |
| 20:29.05 | towo` | like every release |
| 20:29.11 | chovy | i know. is that like a year, 3 years? |
| 20:29.13 | chovy | any idea? |
| 20:29.17 | chovy | i'm just curious |
| 20:29.33 | chovy | what was distance between 6 and 7, that was like 5 years or so, wasn't it? |
| 20:30.14 | qsuscs | hmm what was the difference between windoze xp and vista again? *narf* |
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| 20:30.25 | Shadow_7 | woody was 3 ... 11-ish since then? |
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| 20:43.18 | jmcnaught | chovy: Wheezy was released just a little more than 2 years after Squeeze |
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| 20:44.07 | jmcnaught | chovy: the longest ever was Woody to Sarge which was 3 years |
| 20:44.22 | smyers | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases has pictures and stuff |
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| 20:50.15 | karelbarel | hello all, could somebody help please? After some recent update (unfortunately I don't know exactly which one), I've rebooted the computer and I can't boot it anymore - i've removed quiet from the kernel command lines in grub.cfg / menu.lst and now it hangs with "A start job is running for Load Kernel Modules" message which is taking forever, I was running :'-( debian jessie/sid (as /etc/debian_version says). Would anybody have any clue please? |
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| 20:52.11 | Brigo | karelbarel, can you paste a photograph of the screen when hanging? |
| 20:52.46 | karelbarel | Brigo>well, I'll try, one moment please. |
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| 20:57.33 | Deele | hello |
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| 20:57.50 | Deele | I just wanted to ask, if this server MB is supported by latest debian http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/support/resources/OS/OS_Comp_AMD_2.cfm |
| 20:58.56 | Deele | I'm planning to use this server partly as workstation and virtual server station, but I don't know if it is fully supported |
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| 21:02.53 | ompaul | Deele: given the age of those distros there should be exactly little effort involved |
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| 21:04.05 | Deele | ompaul, this will be my first server unix that I install, other were on vmware, that is why I'm worried |
| 21:04.32 | ompaul | Deele: well don't be |
| 21:04.50 | Greygoose | i wouldnt be |
| 21:04.53 | Greygoose | debian is solid as a rock |
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| 21:09.20 | galex-713 | Trying to install a package, dpkg says me thereâs a configuration problem with dhcpd, which says in syslog âNot configured to listen on any interfaces!â |
| 21:09.22 | galex-713 | /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf: https://paste.galex-713.eu/?5ce3044ff5123a5a#gEPPgMmojd2aLINQJjEGzJJ0XxX3O6TU43npTfD19RA= |
| 21:09.42 | galex-713 | Oh wait, I repaste, this one is expired |
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| 21:10.20 | galex-713 | https://paste.galex-713.eu/?f64bbd3e22791212#IxhK8yh2erm8afPqZbAllQ5Hjf9jNTPF7kZr/1PSfes= |
| 21:10.40 | Shadow_7 | galex-713: did you configure it? Are you serving dhcp leases? Or acquiring them? |
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| 21:12.15 | petern__ | hmm, trying to use mod_mono but it's exploding if my request doesn't include a Host: header :S |
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| 21:13.00 | petern__ | oh well, i guess everything sends Host: except me testing with telnet :p |
| 21:13.10 | galex-713 | Shadow_7: itâs to serve |
| 21:13.26 | galex-713 | I just want to create an WiFi AP |
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| 21:18.09 | day | how do i remove the passwd complexity check? "Bad: new password is too simple"? Can this be configured in the pam.d/common-password? |
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| 21:19.57 | galex-713 | Shadow_7: so⦠what should I do? did I forgot to answer a question? |
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| 21:20.52 | Shadow_7 | galex-713: I've never used dhcpd to serve leases. Was hoping someone else would answer. |
| 21:21.08 | karelbarel | Brigo>the image is here http://picpaste.com/P1190941-TAzQYShx.JPG |
| 21:21.13 | galex-713 | Ah ok, thanks anyway ^^ |
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| 21:21.54 | Shadow_7 | Just dhclient -4 -v eth0 for me. As polling IPv6 takes forever if you know it's not there to be gotten. |
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| 21:22.46 | galex-713 | Shadow_7: https://paste.galex-713.eu/?d70cf565354af85c#lpuF3JsX0GWcZ0FgzLygud7Yy1od8nnDQXmAk/sIkgg= |
| 21:23.58 | Shadow_7 | just commenting on my experience level towards that, not actually a suggestion. |
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| 21:24.33 | Shadow_7 | cheap stand alone routers are decent for ap points. |
| 21:24.34 | galex-713 | ah ok ^^" |
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| 21:24.58 | galex-713 | Well, I have *no* money, and no time to buy one |
| 21:25.02 | Shadow_7 | or wireless access if you can't be bothered with broadcom firmware. |
| 21:25.28 | Shadow_7 | galex-713: you could always go the static route... depending on needs |
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| 21:25.49 | Shadow_7 | galex-713: you might try # dpkg-reconfigure dhcpd |
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| 21:27.05 | galex-713 | Shadow_7: https://paste.galex-713.eu/?e0a9a1f839e291ed#IdbLG6d4Js3BKHHBgVwb/fEZlf1q03EC6unr/E3Dz6s= |
| 21:27.34 | galex-713 | Well the static route⦠itâs to give IPs to terminals such as âsmartphonesâ, so⦠|
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| 21:28.49 | Shadow_7 | galex-713: perhaps # apt-get install --reinstall isc-dhcp-server |
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| 21:30.39 | galex-713 | Shadow_7: https://paste.galex-713.eu/?db747f09b94beb71#j0OVPUJTRz4G4WPnSda3bK5muuo2bc3shqUvbLAe6HE= |
| 21:30.51 | galex-713 | :/ |
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| 21:35.00 | Shadow_7 | galex-713: so your package management is broke? anything odd in /etc/apt/sources.list? perhaps apt-get install dselect && dselect update |
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| 21:35.38 | basichash | When I try to run network connections ('tanglu') i get "Failed to fork". How do I resolve this? |
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| 21:37.48 | galex-713 | Shadow_7: no, itâs just the configuration of isc-dhcp-server isnât completed |
| 21:38.27 | Shadow_7 | the links you gave seemed to suggest that it couldn't get the package to install |
| 21:38.35 | Togusa | what's this? any idea? "File descriptor 6 (/var/lib/dpkg/triggers/Unincorp) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID 17812: /bin/sh" |
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| 21:42.12 | jhutchins | galex-713: I know you've already put some work into dhcpd, but a lot of people like dnsmasq for small-office servers. |
| 21:42.52 | jhutchins | galex-713: I believe you get that error if your netmask/subnet start are not correct. |
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| 21:43.07 | galex-713 | Ok, so what to do? |
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| 21:45.04 | karelbarel | hello all, could somebody help please? After some recent update (unfortunately I don't know exactly which one), I've rebooted the computer and I can't boot it anymore - i've removed quiet from the kernel command lines in grub.cfg / menu.lst and now it hangs with "A start job is running for Load Kernel Modules" message which is taking forever, I was running :'-( debian jessie/sid (as /etc/debian_version says). Would anybody have any clue please? |
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| 21:45.12 | jhutchins | galex-713: I'm rusty, let me look at your conf. |
| 21:45.44 | galex-713 | https://paste.galex-713.eu/?f64bbd3e22791212#IxhK8yh2erm8afPqZbAllQ5Hjf9jNTPF7kZr/1PSfes= |
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| 21:48.50 | jhutchins | galex-713: It might be objeting to a class C netmask with a class A network range. |
| 21:49.07 | jhutchins | galex-713: I would definitely take a look at dnsmasq, it will also give you local DNS. |
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| 21:50.16 | galex-713 | jhutchins: I already use unbound⦠isnât that fine? |
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| 21:50.33 | jhutchins | galex-713: It's supposed to be a lot easier to confugure than dnsd. |
| 21:50.39 | jhutchins | galex-713: Never heard of it. |
| 21:50.44 | arven | I'm having issues with creating a script that uses debconf. No matter what I call the "templates" file, debconf spits out a RET=10 "foo/bar" doesn't exist |
| 21:50.51 | jhutchins | galex-713: YOu could always turn off the DNS if you didn't want it. |
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| 21:51.08 | arven | Is there any way to have debconf report what the filename of the templates file it's trying to use is? |
| 21:51.11 | galex-713 | jhutchins: but I want it, I just already have unbound that do it |
| 21:51.40 | Shadow_7 | arven: you could strace it to see what it's access at / near the point of failure |
| 21:52.29 | AlexMax | Question. I am running x86 + amd64 multiarch and I would like to replace 32-bit gcc with 64-bit gcc. However, I can't seem to install build-essentials:amd64 because it conflicts with 32-bit....even though i don't actually want 32-bit build-essentials installed at all |
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| 21:52.54 | arven | Shadow_7: it doesn't outright provide a failure message, but it's certainly failing. And I don't really see anything in the strace either about a "template" file not being able to be read |
| 21:53.08 | AlexMax | I dont have either build-essentials installed atm but as soon as I install amd64 build-essentials it suddenly wants to install normal build-essentials as well |
| 21:53.10 | AlexMax | idgi |
| 21:54.26 | arven | Shadow_7: I see something about /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat, which contains a lot of templates. Do I have to manually shove templates in there to test debconf scripts? |
| 21:54.46 | arven | I'm uneasy about potentially messing this particular file up |
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| 21:56.14 | arven | hmm, it appears debconf-loadtemplate is useful if you're testing debconf scripts. it appears the tutorials on such are woefully outdated |
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| 22:26.16 | AlexMax | also why does aptitude/apt-get seem to completely freak out when there's any sort of conflict? |
| 22:26.42 | AlexMax | I've been using debian for a decade but I don't think i've ever been able to make heads or tails of it |
| 22:27.02 | smyers | I can be there by 7 |
| 22:27.02 | jaakkos | do you use the aptitude curses UI |
| 22:27.06 | AlexMax | Yes |
| 22:27.12 | smyers | ohai #debian |
| 22:27.16 | smyers | runs away |
| 22:27.20 | jaakkos | AlexMax: and 'e' when there is conflict? |
| 22:27.23 | subz3r0 | AlexMax: well if you r using it for a decade.. you should know that u never should mix up apt-get and aptitude |
| 22:27.48 | AlexMax | I was using that as an example, I only use aptitude |
| 22:29.08 | AlexMax | Yes, I get 78 different alternatives for how to fix dependencies, none of which actually solve anything |
| 22:29.49 | AlexMax | I don't even know why this is happening. I'm trying to install build-essentials:amd64 and for some reason it tries to install build-essentials at the same time...which it can't, because they conflict |
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| 22:30.56 | gooberfoob | I have an issue with running teamviewer. Can anyone help ? |
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| 22:32.00 | AlexMax | almost sounds like i would be better off just starting a fresh amd64 box and going 64-bit natively |
| 22:32.11 | subz3r0 | AlexMax: before you do anything else. make backups. just before you fuckup even more |
| 22:32.35 | subz3r0 | gooberfoob: no idea who anyone is |
| 22:32.53 | subz3r0 | but teamviewer suxx :) |
| 22:33.00 | AlexMax | subz3r0: I'm not fucked up yet. I can always re-install build-essentials i386 and give up trying to build a 64-bit piece of software that happens to rely on a dev package that doesn't support multiarch |
| 22:33.08 | AlexMax | and of course i have backups ;) |
| 22:33.26 | gooberfoob | what is better then teamviewer ? |
| 22:33.45 | subz3r0 | AlexMax: i tried it severayl years too... ending was that i installed plain 64bit |
| 22:33.56 | subz3r0 | gooberfoob: ssh and some vnc |
| 22:33.57 | AlexMax | yeah |
| 22:33.59 | gooberfoob | subz3r0: im asking a general question |
| 22:34.03 | AlexMax | i wish debian 8 would come out soonish |
| 22:34.10 | AlexMax | systemd |
| 22:34.18 | AlexMax | and the package i need supports multiarch |
| 22:34.21 | AlexMax | in sid |
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| 22:34.35 | gooberfoob | if im remoting to clients teamviewer is the most stress free |
| 22:34.38 | AlexMax | (no, I'm not installing packages from sid) |
| 22:34.53 | AlexMax | (I've been around a decade, I know better than to mix packages from stable and sid :P) |
| 22:35.12 | subz3r0 | AlexMax: 7.0 is fine. dropped ubuntu 14.04 since the normal desktop installed is just a shame and doesnt fullfill my needs (lvm, encryption etc..) so i ended up in using 7.0 with xfce |
| 22:35.29 | AlexMax | yeah, but libsdl1.2-dev supports multiarch now |
| 22:35.37 | AlexMax | it just doesn't look like it did by the time 7 came out |
| 22:35.57 | subz3r0 | gooberfoob: i just dont like it when not my servers are involved |
| 22:36.06 | subz3r0 | also teamviewer does a bug security hole in any firewall |
| 22:36.13 | subz3r0 | like crappy skype does as well |
| 22:36.26 | subz3r0 | bug = big |
| 22:36.37 | bps | is there anything wrong with the systemd-sysv package |
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| 22:36.51 | gooberfoob | what do you suggest connecting to client computers ? |
| 22:37.12 | gooberfoob | *my typing is horrible today :( |
| 22:38.37 | subz3r0 | ssh |
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| 22:38.56 | subz3r0 | if you need gfx.. do port forward and use some vnc server and client trought the tunnel |
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| 22:39.18 | subz3r0 | easy and secure |
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| 22:43.07 | gooberfoob | For accessing random computers... to my knowledge does not seem "easy" for them. |
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| 22:44.40 | Cactusarus | can anyone help me out I keep trying to do this : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/545/hide-top-bar/ |
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| 22:46.01 | some-cowbell | where exactly are you having the problem? you're trying to hide a bar? |
| 22:46.17 | Cactusarus | that extention never worked for me, on any hardware or any version of debian |
| 22:46.26 | Cactusarus | out of 3 different computers |
| 22:46.37 | Cactusarus | :< |
| 22:46.48 | some-cowbell | what do you expect it to do? |
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| 22:46.54 | Cactusarus | autohide the top bar |
| 22:46.59 | subz3r0 | remember: not all extensions for with any gnome shell version. |
| 22:47.00 | Cactusarus | Isn't there a config file? |
| 22:47.15 | subz3r0 | if it does not work: contact the developer |
| 22:47.18 | subz3r0 | best way |
| 22:47.45 | subz3r0 | +work with any... |
| 22:48.01 | Cactusarus | lo |
| 22:48.04 | Cactusarus | lol* |
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| 22:48.39 | some-cowbell | does the README say anything about what version it works with? |
| 22:49.27 | subz3r0 | no |
| 22:49.35 | subz3r0 | https://github.com/mlutfy/hidetopbar/blob/master/README.md |
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| 22:49.49 | subz3r0 | contact mlutfy |
| 22:49.53 | subz3r0 | @github |
| 22:50.06 | Cactusarus | I'm not upset I'm confused |
| 22:50.20 | some-cowbell | good to know |
| 22:50.35 | subz3r0 | "Tested on Gnome 3.8.4." |
| 22:50.48 | some-cowbell | where do you see that? |
| 22:51.08 | subz3r0 | "Maintained by Thomas Vogt. With contributions by Philip Witte and Mathieu Lutfy. Tested on Gnome 3.8.4." |
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| 22:52.09 | Cactusarus | I'm using the latest version what ever that is |
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| 22:52.21 | subz3r0 | fyi: there are a lot of extensions which wont work for any gnome shell version. a nice feature would be, that only working extension would be shown in the list |
| 22:52.22 | Cactusarus | I don't know hwo to send messages on github |
| 22:52.33 | subz3r0 | @terminal: gnome-shell version |
| 22:52.36 | Cactusarus | How is that okay to post if it doesn't work |
| 22:52.46 | Cactusarus | Duke nukem autohide bar |
| 22:52.48 | some-cowbell | I mean what file (or github url) did that come from? |
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| 22:52.52 | subz3r0 | Cactusarus: because the devs of gnome doesnt care |
| 22:53.07 | subz3r0 | some-cowbell: you got me |
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| 22:53.09 | Cactusarus | I swear it was a feature |
| 22:53.10 | subz3r0 | found it in the readme |
| 22:53.19 | subz3r0 | https://github.com/mlutfy/hidetopbar/blob/master/README.md |
| 22:53.25 | Cactusarus | :c I'll use fluxbox and say oh well |
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| 22:53.30 | subz3r0 | above "INSTALLATION" |
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| 22:53.35 | some-cowbell | oh ok |
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| 22:54.07 | subz3r0 | get a account on github. login, then youre able to contact the dev |
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| 22:54.17 | Cactusarus | no, even with a account I cant |
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| 22:54.21 | subz3r0 | or check if you can find him somewhere in irc |
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| 22:54.46 | subz3r0 | luckily i found most of the devs in irc lately :) |
| 22:54.59 | mranonymous | How can I change default fonts in Xorg? |
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| 22:55.04 | subz3r0 | even for virtualbox. its just great :) |
| 22:55.47 | some-cowbell | Cactusarus: what version of gnome are you running? |
| 22:55.58 | Cactusarus | so...use gnome3, take up hundreds of mb of resources, there isn't even a github messaging button |
| 22:56.04 | Cactusarus | the latest |
| 22:56.09 | Cactusarus | what kind of backwards shit is this |
| 22:56.23 | some-cowbell | need the actual version number |
| 22:56.24 | Cactusarus | sticks to fluxbox |
| 22:56.58 | Cactusarus | GNOME Shell 3.4.2 |
| 22:57.18 | Cactusarus | I don't want gnome3 anymore |
| 22:57.20 | Cactusarus | ill bbl |
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| 22:59.15 | some-cowbell | so the readme says it was tested with 3.8.4, but that's the github version, probably HEAD, and you might be able to see other versions of the extension by looking at the commits |
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| 23:01.43 | Cactusarus | they wrote a entire shell in javascript |
| 23:01.43 | shay_shay | The latest version is 3.12 |
| 23:01.44 | Cactusarus | way to go |
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| 23:02.50 | subz3r0 | Cactusarus> what kind of backwards shit is this |
| 23:02.53 | subz3r0 | really |
| 23:02.57 | subz3r0 | what do you expect? |
| 23:03.02 | subz3r0 | did you pay for it? |
| 23:03.13 | subz3r0 | those devs do nice things in their "FREETIME" |
| 23:03.24 | Cactusarus | Does it look like I'm complaining or entertained by how far technology has advanced. |
| 23:03.35 | shay_shay | And it was made by women! They should know better then to try and make things |
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| 23:03.57 | Cactusarus | >Sticks up for womens rights, never in their life tried celebacy |
| 23:04.04 | shay_shay | That's how you sound right now |
| 23:04.04 | Cactusarus | how about you get born without a vagina |
| 23:04.10 | Cactusarus | and told your a guy |
| 23:04.13 | Cactusarus | and raped and no one gives a fuck |
| 23:04.20 | subz3r0 | @? |
| 23:04.26 | subz3r0 | can anyone kick this retard? |
| 23:04.33 | subz3r0 | thanks in advanced. |
| 23:04.34 | Cactusarus | wah |
| 23:04.44 | Cactusarus | Stalker. |
| 23:04.47 | mranonymous | Does syslinux support lvm encryption? |
| 23:04.51 | Cactusarus | your obviously a stalker. |
| 23:05.00 | Cactusarus | who doesn't know who their working for |
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| 23:05.13 | subz3r0 | Cactusarus: youre obviously a brainfucked retard. now get lost |
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| 23:06.15 | karelbarel | okok, stop yelling and get back to solving problems, I've got interesting one :) |
| 23:06.38 | ShariVegas | and you spelled celibacy wrong |
| 23:07.08 | karelbarel | unfortunately nothing i've tried works and nobody is able to help |
| 23:07.35 | some-cowbell | what are you having problems with |
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| 23:08.55 | Cactusarus | nvm gnome3 is off my hdd, I've seen awesome things done with gome3, and for the record I'm not swearing or starting a flame war. |
| 23:08.58 | mranonymous | Does anyone know? |
| 23:09.11 | karelbarel | with boot ... I can't boot anymore after some recent update the boot now hangs on "A start job is running for Load Kernel Modules" message which is taking forever, I was running :'-( debian jessie/sid (as /etc/debian_version says). |
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| 23:10.27 | some-cowbell | karelbarel: does it use grub? |
| 23:10.47 | karelbarel | some-cowbell> yes |
| 23:11.17 | some-cowbell | ok, does it get to the part where it loads the kernel image? |
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| 23:11.47 | bingoo | greetings |
| 23:11.58 | some-cowbell | hi |
| 23:13.14 | karelbarel | some-cowbell>i guess so, I've turned systemd debug messages on and the last message (except the "A start job is running ...") is "Running GC..." |
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| 23:14.14 | some-cowbell | oh, so systemd is running, so supposedly the kernel is running... if that's the case we're past grub, which was also successful |
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| 23:15.39 | some-cowbell | this is probably the edge of my knowledge; I'm not familiar with systemd, which seems like where the problem is. |
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| 23:16.44 | karelbarel | some-cowbell>yes, as the message suggests it hangs on some kernel module load, so i've commented all modules in /etc/modules, also moved *some* /etc/modules.d/*.conf to *.conf.bak, but it did not help ... |
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| 23:18.49 | karelbarel | I also went through the https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?ordering=normal;archive=0;src=systemd where some issue looked similar, but nothing helped, now i'm stuck and don't know what to do ... probably reinstall the system (but i thought it's necessary only on windows ....) |
| 23:19.54 | some-cowbell | before I continue, I'll mention another source of support and information for unreleased versions of debian (which jessie and sid are), it's on a different irc net, irc.oftc.net, I think the channel is called #debian+1 |
| 23:20.26 | karelbarel | ok, great, i'll try it, thanks a lot |
| 23:20.41 | some-cowbell | welcome. |
| 23:20.42 | jmcnaught | the channel is #debian-next (not on freenode though) |
| 23:21.05 | some-cowbell | oh, oops... karelbarel, wrong channel name |
| 23:22.03 | karelbarel | np, i got it |
| 23:22.43 | some-cowbell | great |
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| 23:26.37 | some-cowbell | they might have an alternative to reinstall... like edit config files of systemd by mounting the partition where they are from a live cd |
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| 23:27.55 | karelbarel | I hope so, I've posted the questions already so I'll see, thanks again for the tip. I must bookmark the channel. |
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| 23:31.39 | some-cowbell | karelbarel, so systemd is trying to load necessary modules... if you got yourself into a pickle by (say) commenting out the lines that try to load modules involved in mounting /, that could render your system unbootable... but, you could make yourself a livecd so you can potentially alter the systemd configs as someone will suggest. |
| 23:32.02 | some-cowbell | point I'm trying to make: download/write the livecd now |
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| 23:34.45 | Mittens2001 | can anyone help with nvidia drivers? |
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| 23:36.01 | Brigo | Mittens2001, may be |
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| 23:38.31 | Odoxa | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If36R0cNum4 |
| 23:38.37 | Mittens2001 | okay well Brigo |
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| 23:39.24 | Mittens2001 | I just ran "apt-get install nvidia-driver" and rebooted and now I cant boot into debian anymore |
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| 23:39.44 | some-cowbell | what do you see when you try? |
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| 23:40.29 | Brigo | Mittens2001, are you using wheezy? |
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| 23:41.09 | some-cowbell | I wonder if Mittens2001 is at the textual login prompt |
| 23:41.23 | Mittens2001 | Brigo, sid. some-cowbell, screen just went blank and then it said that an error occurred and I must log out, logging out just takes me to a blank screen again |
| 23:42.05 | some-cowbell | what happens if you try ctrl-alt-F1? |
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| 23:42.26 | Brigo | Mittens2001, please run lspci -nn in a console and paste the 8 number between [] of your graphic card |
| 23:42.54 | Mittens2001 | alright, will do in just a second |
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| 23:43.11 | Mittens2001 | another problem was that I didn't create the 20-nvidia.conf file either |
| 23:43.49 | Mittens2001 | I was going to do it after reboot because I was unclear on it |
| 23:43.57 | Brigo | Mittens2001, first i want to know if your card is supported by this driver. |
| 23:44.51 | Mittens2001 | Brigo, it should be, I ran nvidia-detect and that was what it told me to install |
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| 23:45.21 | Brigo | ok, so can you paste /var/log/Xorg.o.log in paste.debian.net |
| 23:45.42 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.13 | blackjack | is nvidia card harder to install than amd/ati ones on debian? |
| 23:46.21 | Mittens2001 | the log is blank, should I paste xorg.0.log.old? |
| 23:46.49 | Brigo | no |
| 23:46.57 | Brigo | do you use gnome 3? |
| 23:47.04 | some-cowbell | blackjack: the process is similar |
| 23:47.59 | Mittens2001 | Brigo, yes |
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| 23:48.26 | blackjack | ok some-cowbell. thanks |
| 23:48.28 | some-cowbell | are you in gnome3 now? |
| 23:48.28 | Brigo | try to restart gdm with 'service gdm3 restart' |
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| 23:48.40 | Mittens2001 | some-cowbell, im on windows right now |
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| 23:49.20 | some-cowbell | do you have another machine so you can irc on one and work on the other? |
| 23:49.26 | Brigo | If there is no /var/log/Xorg.o.log, there is not Xorg running at all |
| 23:49.40 | Mittens2001 | some-cowbell, I could irc on my phone, yes |
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| 23:50.02 | Mittens2001 | Brigo, where did the xorg.0.log.old come from? |
| 23:50.04 | some-cowbell | that might work... you'd have to type in paste urls |
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| 23:50.52 | Brigo | Mittens2001, the Xorg graphic server. |
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| 23:51.23 | Brigo | Mittens2001, did you tried to restart gmd3 already? |
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| 23:55.28 | Mittens2001 | Brigo, just a second, I'm going to try to get irc working on my phone first |
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