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| 00:09.28 | andre74 | Hi. I think this is such a stupid question, anyway: Im "emulating" a fresh Debian minimal install in a virtualbox VM. I see it installed various "vitualbox-guest-*" packages (without asking me anything about). Of course those were installed because its a Vbox VM? I mean, they will not be installed in a real computer, or are those just "default" packages? |
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| 00:13.28 | brontosaurusrex | andre74, no it should not |
| 00:14.37 | andre74 | brontosaurusrex, thanks for confirmation |
| 00:15.12 | brontosaurusrex | andre74, dpkg -l | grep virtualbox < returns no guests for me |
| 00:15.29 | andre74 | I see. Thank you |
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| 00:25.41 | Jarmer | jmcnaught & mtn --- I fixed it wohoo!!! I read through some of those docs I didn't even know existed and they helped me locate the OTHER referenced lib package that was missing and install that and it fixed the "broken" status in synaptic |
| 00:25.56 | Jarmer | what's weird though is that the app, retroshare, seems to work totally fine without that other package |
| 00:26.08 | Jarmer | thank you both though |
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| 00:32.29 | silicone | hello all. I just found out about freephonebox.org, however have been unable to get it to work. I read about it on http://danielpocock.com/launching-freephonebox-net, and noticed that one must change settings in client (I'm using linphone) to SIP (TLS) to receive calls. When I do so however I receive the following message :"Could not start tls transport on port 5060, maybe this port is already used.". I read that 5061 is often used |
| 00:33.59 | lakcaj | Is there a naming convention for files/directories? Ie, should I use all lowercase regardless of type, or maybe use all caps for directories, or anything like that? What about underscores in names, or hyphens? |
| 00:34.24 | silicone | I also read on https://wiki.debian.org/UnifiedCommunications/DebianDevelopers/UserGuide "For SIP itself, we only use TLS This is a stream connection that is more likely to get through NAT than UDP It can also potentially be tunnelled through proxies using the HTTP CONNECT method (port 443)" and so tried port 443, but received same message. Any ideas? |
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| 00:35.03 | SirLagz | lakcaj: name things however you want, as long as it makes sense. |
| 00:35.04 | lakcaj | silicone, do you actually have something listening on those ports? Is it possibly a permission issue? |
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| 00:35.29 | lakcaj | SirLagz, of course I'm free to do as I please, but I was hoping there was an accepted standard. |
| 00:35.54 | silicone | lakcay: I'm not sure - how might I check? Or maybe I'll just start linphone from root? |
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| 00:36.02 | SirLagz | lakcaj: not that I know of, I tend to do CamcelCase for most things |
| 00:36.15 | lakcaj | silicone, first, check "netstat -plnt" and see if something is listening |
| 00:36.24 | abrotman | lakcaj: so help me, if use spaces, I will find you ... |
| 00:36.26 | lakcaj | silicone, don't just to running as root just to get around permission issues |
| 00:36.29 | abrotman | if you use spaces |
| 00:36.31 | lakcaj | abrotman, not a chance |
| 00:36.40 | SirLagz | abrotman: haha |
| 00:36.47 | SirLagz | runs from abrotman |
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| 00:38.13 | silicone | lakcay: Good advice - look for the "root" of the problem rather than using root.... okay terrible pun... anyway I see no mention of 5061 or 443... |
| 00:39.16 | lakcaj | ok, silicone, if there's nothing listening on 5060, try "python -m SimpleHTTPServer 5060" just to bind to that port. Do it in an empty directory as it will serve up files in the current directory over HTTP. Just a quick test. |
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| 00:39.23 | lakcaj | as a normal user, not as root |
| 00:39.59 | silicone | lakcaj: This is a terrible noob question: an empty directory means opening up a new terminal? |
| 00:40.22 | tilt | :) |
| 00:40.38 | lakcaj | mkdir tempdir && cd tempdir && python -m SimpleHTTPServer 5060 |
| 00:40.50 | lakcaj | silicone, ^^^ a directory with nothing in it |
| 00:41.08 | silicone | lakcaj: Thanks. |
| 00:41.32 | lakcaj | I might not be able to help you with freephonebox, but we can at least find out if you can open a port on 5060 as a normal user |
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| 00:42.32 | silicone | lakcaj: Anything helps! "Serving HTTP on 0.0.0.0 port 5060 ... " |
| 00:42.34 | lakcaj | you should see the following: Serving HTTP on 0.0.0.0 port 5060 |
| 00:42.36 | lakcaj | right |
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| 00:42.51 | silicone | lakcaj: so this is good? |
| 00:43.08 | lakcaj | so it's not a permission issue and nothing else is listening on that port. Unfortunately that means that I have nothing else to offer. |
| 00:43.39 | lakcaj | silicone, you can ctrl-c to kill the python web server |
| 00:43.44 | silicone | lakcaj: Okay, well thanks - that eliminates one possible issue! |
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| 00:48.48 | lakcaj | silicone, do you have UDP set to zero? |
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| 00:49.08 | lakcaj | you can't have both UDP and TCP apparently, and the error message doesn't really convey that. |
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| 00:50.30 | rsw | hey, typing 'rfkill unblock 0' won't remove the softblock from my device? |
| 00:50.46 | lakcaj | I believe there is a .linphonerc in your home directory that you can edit, and set UDP port = 0 or something like that |
| 00:50.51 | lakcaj | silicone, ^^^ |
| 00:51.09 | silicone | lakcaj: Sorry - how do I check that? is that under audio RTP/UDP: 7078 and video RTP/UDP 9078? |
| 00:51.32 | silicone | lakcaj: Okay I'll check .linphonerc |
| 00:51.58 | lakcaj | silicone, I'm just doing some googling... I don't use linphone myself. |
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| 00:53.53 | silicone | lakcaj: Well thanks! Um - /home/me/.linphonerc does not exist. I'll have to find out where that directory is. |
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| 00:54.25 | lakcaj | it should be a file. It starts with a period so it is hidden. Do an "ls -la" in your home directory |
| 00:54.54 | lakcaj | ie: cd /home/silicone && ls -la |
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| 00:56.26 | nick___ | hi! I'm running debian stable, and looking to test/try out the latest kernel that can be installed through apt.. so I found https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel and used apt-cache to locate linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64, but trying to install errors out |
| 00:56.37 | nick___ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.46 | nick___ | what is the proper way to go about this? |
| 00:57.18 | dvs | nick___: backports |
| 00:57.35 | nick___ | I've added deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main contrib |
| 00:57.49 | nick___ | to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/backports.list |
| 00:58.03 | abrotman | dpkg: tell nick___ about bdo kernel |
| 00:58.05 | dvs | nick___: And what instruction did you use to install the kernel |
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| 00:58.20 | nick___ | apt-get install linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 00:58.26 | dvs | WRONG! |
| 00:58.33 | nick___ | that's why I'm here :) |
| 00:58.33 | dvs | read what dpkg said |
| 00:58.46 | silicone | lakcay: I haven'T found the file, but I think that these http://www.linphone.org/eng/documentation/dev/tuning-linphone.html are the contents. "## RTP settings [rtp] #Audio RTP (UDP) port audio_rtp_port=7078 #Video RTP (UDP) port video_rtp_port=9078" so it looks like this is information that I can change in the interface.... should I set it to zero do you think? |
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| 00:59.04 | nick___ | ok, thanks! |
| 00:59.06 | silicone | lakcay: ^ ^ ^ |
| 00:59.16 | nick___ | dvs: ok, thanks! |
| 00:59.19 | silicone | lakcaj: ^^^ |
| 00:59.37 | dvs | no problem |
| 01:00.12 | nick___ | so it's the -t wheezy-backports I keep forgetting about |
| 01:00.20 | nick___ | ;) |
| 01:00.21 | dvs | yup |
| 01:00.44 | silicone | lakcaj: I mean I am not partial to linphone - it's just worked for other things, but I might try another sip client if that would enable use with freephonebooth.net. Any suggestions for a sip client? I'm doing some reading too. |
| 01:00.46 | lakcaj | silicone, honestly, I'm not 100% sure |
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| 01:01.14 | lakcaj | silicone, I just checked and there is a #linphone on this server |
| 01:01.31 | silicone | lakcaj: I'll join! |
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| 01:01.44 | funyun | hi. how can i lock a user in their directory? or atleast keep them out of others home directoy? |
| 01:02.14 | nick___ | funyun: either permissions, group mods, or chroot (maybe with SSH?) |
| 01:02.51 | abrotman | dpkg: tell funyun about chroot |
| 01:03.04 | m_billybob | lol |
| 01:03.12 | abrotman | funyun: or change the default perms that $HOME is created, but note that the users can change that |
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| 01:03.44 | abrotman | dpkg: tell m_billybob about lol |
| 01:04.15 | m_billybob | I've used AOL before . . . |
| 01:04.23 | abrotman | we can tell |
| 01:05.49 | m_billybob | I know right. SInce i've used an IRC acronyn thats been aroudn since the dawn of time ;) |
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| 01:07.19 | funyun | abrotman: will i be able to do that remotely on a dedicated server? |
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| 01:10.29 | Sleep | how do I makes these smaller http://imgur.com/0PlhXT5 |
| 01:11.08 | Sleep | make* |
| 01:12.23 | abrotman | funyun: yes? |
| 01:13.20 | abrotman | Sleep: make what smaller? the icons? they're tiny? |
| 01:15.49 | Sleep | They are the same size as my mouse if not bigger http://imgur.com/5ywYJLj |
| 01:17.15 | jmcnaught | Sleep: maybe you could use applications in fullscreen mode if you want to reclaim that space. For most applications F10 is full screen, there's also a global keyboard shortcut you can configure in Gnome |
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| 01:18.10 | Sleep | alright |
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| 01:27.59 | Crabby | Can somebody tell me where Awesome keeps it's config files? The wiki says it's in ~.config but it's not taking. |
| 01:28.15 | Crabby | .config/awesome to be more specific |
| 01:29.44 | dondelelcaro | Crabby: .config/awesome/rc.lua |
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| 01:35.05 | Crabby | dondelelcaro: That's where I've put it but it's not taking it, it's taking the /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua instead. |
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| 01:37.04 | dondelelcaro | Crabby: that's the configuration file it will use, so either you're not changing something, or something else odd is happening |
| 01:38.20 | dondelelcaro | Crabby: check your xsession errors or similar to see why it might not be working |
| 01:38.39 | Crabby | dondelelcaro: Yeah, I'm checking those right now. |
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| 01:42.21 | dondelelcaro | Crabby: you might try adding something obvious, like awful.util.spawn("xeyes") to your ~/.config/awesome/rc.lua to make sure that it's not actually being read |
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| 02:19.13 | blar1 | i'm trying to install tmux via apt-get, and i can see that it's in the sid repository, but my google-fu is failing to turn up a proper URI for sid to enter into my sources.list; can anyone assist me in finding that? |
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| 02:19.52 | dvs | !iyhtays blar1 |
| 02:19.52 | dpkg | blar1: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 02:20.39 | phogg | usually just types sources out from memory |
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| 02:21.41 | jmcnaught | blar1: it's generally not a good idea to add sid/unstable repos to wheezy/stable. Is the version of tmux in Wheezy not good enough? What about the version in wheezy-backports? |
| 02:22.00 | dvs | ,v tmux |
| 02:22.01 | judd | Package: tmux on i386 -- squeeze: 1.3-2+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1.3-2+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.6-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.6-2; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 1.8-3~bpo60+2; wheezy-backports: 1.9-5~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.9-5; sid: 1.9-5 |
| 02:22.18 | blar1 | ahhhh; googling didn't turn up that it was in backports |
| 02:22.21 | blar1 | my bad |
| 02:22.54 | jmcnaught | blar1: instead of searching for packages on google, you could use https://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 02:23.58 | blar1 | thanks for the assistance, everyone; that ought to get me going |
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| 02:26.27 | blar1 | hrm. ok, so i'm actually still confused - not on installing tmux, but on managing sources.list |
| 02:26.47 | user_david | is updating from debian stable to debian "testing" really as simple as changing your sources.list so that it says "test", and then running aptitude update ? |
| 02:26.59 | user_david | sorry "testing" |
| 02:27.40 | phogg | user_david: update just changes the list of available packages and versions, you'd have to install (or upgrade) to switch |
| 02:27.44 | abrotman | user_david: |
| 02:27.50 | abrotman | user_david: "simple" .. not quite .. |
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| 02:27.59 | blar1 | i only have to edit this thing about once a year, which is why i frequently forget how... so, form a fresh install of debian, i have "wheezy/updates" listed... searching packages.debian shows that tmux IS in the stable repo... what am i missing here? |
| 02:28.04 | abrotman | user_david: you could run into any number of problems |
| 02:28.47 | user_david | so what would I run with aptitude to make the switch? |
| 02:28.48 | dvs | blar1: Yeah, tmux is in stable |
| 02:29.08 | blar1 | yeah... and yet $apt-cache search tmux or $apt-get install tmux both fail |
| 02:29.37 | user_david | abrotman, how bad can these problems be, is part of ubuntu based of "unstable"? |
| 02:29.40 | blar1 | so in a fresh install, i don't have the stable repo in my sources.list... where do i actually get the list of repos that i can add into sources.list? |
| 02:29.47 | dvs | blar1: apt-cache search works for me. |
| 02:29.50 | mutante | just did a dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, had it generate my config, then i start and panic " main option "dc_local_interfaces" unknown |
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| 02:30.07 | mutante | unknown options in generated config? |
| 02:30.12 | SirLagz | blar1: what's actually in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 02:30.18 | user_david | and many other distors using testing as their base, I dont think im too scared of it to be honest.. |
| 02:30.21 | blar1 | sec |
| 02:31.09 | abrotman | user_david: yes, but I wouldn't praise Ubuntu for their stability ... |
| 02:31.12 | blar1 | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
| 02:31.18 | blar1 | also deb-src... |
| 02:31.34 | blar1 | those are the only repos not commented out, after a fresh, no-desktop-environment install |
| 02:32.02 | blar1 | clearly i'm missing the correct repo entry, i just don't know how to FIND that correct entry |
| 02:32.15 | blar1 | $man sources.list didn't help |
| 02:32.33 | blar1 | neither has googling, thus far |
| 02:32.41 | jmcnaught | blar1: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList this page has an example |
| 02:32.47 | blar1 | thx! |
| 02:32.50 | user_david | true that, but im only going up to "testing' not "unstable" the last distor I used was solydXK which was based off i debian testing, and it was almost perfect. |
| 02:33.01 | user_david | and very "stable" |
| 02:33.13 | dvs | !tell blar1 about wheezy sources.list |
| 02:33.26 | abrotman | user_david: then do whatever you'd like |
| 02:34.12 | blar1 | dvs: thx |
| 02:34.19 | dvs | no prob |
| 02:34.55 | user_david | I just wanted to make sure i use the right commands. Wait debian testing is still "offically" debian right? I mean I can still come here for support? |
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| 02:35.04 | jmcnaught | user_david: You should read the sections "basic precautions" and "life with eternal upgrades" (well, and the whole book really): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html |
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| 02:39.54 | user_david | thank you for that awesome reference but the only problem is when It says: "The newbie Debian system administrator" Im no system admin, I am a home user and use my PC as such. Im not trying to set up a sever or anything like that. I just like debian and it's awesome community :) |
| 02:41.25 | mutante | if you have a system and administer it,you are an admin |
| 02:42.10 | mutante | user_david: the deal is kind of that if you use sid you can't get support anymore |
| 02:42.40 | user_david | but with "testing" I can? |
| 02:42.53 | mutante | more than with sid , less than with stable |
| 02:43.04 | mutante | would do testing on a home pc or laptop, yea |
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| 02:44.04 | mutante | you can run it though and reportbugs and it would be a good thing |
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| 02:45.08 | user_david | because Im on a home PC, thats the reason for me wanting to track "testing" I would never think about doing that for a sever. So with that said what do you guys think. I hear its a one way street! |
| 02:45.35 | dvs | it is |
| 02:45.54 | abrotman | user_david: let's be clear, you should track 'jessie' not 'testing' |
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| 02:46.39 | user_david | why? |
| 02:46.52 | abrotman | testing is always testing, jessie will one day be stable |
| 02:46.54 | user_david | it will turn into stable in the futrre |
| 02:47.15 | user_david | then I have to upgrade again right> |
| 02:47.17 | abrotman | yes, no one has warned that the period after a release is pretty messy for testing |
| 02:47.22 | abrotman | you dont "have to" |
| 02:47.32 | abrotman | you can use Jessie for some time |
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| 02:47.43 | abrotman | we recommend that people use the release names, we really do |
| 02:47.46 | dvs | from testing to oldstable |
| 02:47.59 | user_david | but its more safer to track "jesse" than? |
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| 02:48.04 | abrotman | yes |
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| 03:56.47 | user_david | sorry guys was away for a min. So to update from stable to jesse, replace stable with " jesse" run aptitude update and aptitude upgrade? |
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| 05:33.09 | somenamevm | First of all, why would x11 even have a port? |
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| 05:50.00 | civillian | milligan: squid |
| 05:50.16 | christinepea777 | milligan: billies |
| 05:50.49 | civillian | christinepea777: ? |
| 05:51.03 | christinepea777 | adult swim anyone? |
| 05:51.19 | civillian | over my head |
| 05:51.36 | christinepea777 | heh |
| 05:51.40 | christinepea777 | what country are you from? |
| 05:52.33 | SirLagz | milligan: squid / dansguardian |
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| 05:56.56 | spacebison | Do it to it. |
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| 06:00.57 | milligan | SirLagz, dansguardian looks very promising. Would I be able to set up i.e profiles etc, and apply them to single users? |
| 06:01.35 | SirLagz | milligan: I don't recall how granular dansguardian goes, sorry |
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| 06:02.52 | milligan | SirLagz, alright. I'll have a dig and see what I can find out. Cheers for the tip :) civillian as well. thanks for the squid tip. I was thinking of squid the whole time :) |
| 06:03.03 | SirLagz | milligan: no problems |
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| 06:06.09 | e^0 | what is the difference between aptitude update and aptitude upgrade |
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| 06:07.48 | jmcnaught | e^0: this sort of stuff is covered in both the Debian Reference and the Debian Administrator's Handbook (both available online or as packages). aptitude update fetches the latest package index from the repository. aptitude upgrade will upgrade packages that have new versions available. |
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| 06:09.42 | e^0 | jmcnaught: ok :) let me google out for Debain reference and The Debian administrator's Handbook |
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| 06:11.50 | e^0 | jmcnaught: aside from apt-get and aptitude is their a need to use dpkg ? |
| 06:13.32 | SirLagz | e^0: if you want to install a *.deb package manually |
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| 06:14.11 | jmcnaught | e^0: sometimes i guess. There are other dpkg-* commands that are pretty handy. dpkg-reconfigure is on that I use sometimes. You'll get a pretty good handle on the package system if you read one or both of those books. You can also read the man pages for any of these commands |
| 06:14.28 | e^0 | SirLagz: jmcnaught ok :) |
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| 06:16.28 | jmcnaught | e^0: also (because this was confusing for someone else earlier) these books and other Debian documentation are applicable to home PC users as much as they are to server sysadmins. Even if you just read a little bit at a time, they're quite rewarding :) |
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| 06:18.42 | Zipf | Hello there, got an old pc, and running debian for the 1st time on my life. I'm running Debian 6.0.9 squeeze, i have both keyboard and mouse plugged on via USB port. Keyboard working fine, but i can't get the mouse to work. Anything i can update beofre try search deeper for issues ? |
| 06:20.35 | jmcnaught | Zipf: does the mouse work on other computers, or does a different mouse work on this computer? Also if you're just starting with Debian on this computer, you might consider using Debian 7 (Wheezy) which is the current stable release. Debian 6 (Squeeze) is not really supported anymore, except by a sort of new LTS program |
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| 06:22.38 | e^0 | jmcnaught: debain administrator's handbook has all the info :) and too in very detail :D |
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| 06:23.34 | jmcnaught | e^0: it really is quite good, and if you purchase the book it helps out the authors (who are Debian Developers) |
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| 06:24.00 | e^0 | jmcnaught: ok i will consider to buy the book :) very informative for new users like me :) |
| 06:25.18 | Zipf | what book ? |
| 06:26.14 | jmcnaught | Zipf: http://debian-handbook.info/ (which is also available as a package), and also the Debian Reference: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/index.en.html |
| 06:27.02 | vlt | Hello. I have a raid10 on Debian. I doubled the physical size of each raid member and want to resize to --size=max but hat seems still impossible nowadays. Is there a better way than to remove half of the members, build a new raid10, move data, delete old array, add missing members? |
| 06:27.05 | jmcnaught | https://www.debian.org/doc/ has a lot of other links to documentation too, most of which is also installable as a package |
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| 06:27.38 | Zipf | nice, i'll get it i'll redo my debian install with weezy at this time |
| 06:28.31 | Epic_ | I am using gnome classic in Wheezy and I am wondering how to change the size of these http://imgur.com/5ywYJLj |
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| 06:31.30 | rascal999 | I'm interested in getting latest version of cakephp (2.5.2), but debian 7 repo only has 1.3, is there an easy way to fix this? |
| 06:31.39 | jmcnaught | Epic_: do you just have a lot of nicks, or is this a very popular question tonight? |
| 06:32.16 | Epic_ | Different nick for different computer |
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| 06:34.50 | jmcnaught | Epic_: i think it can be done with a custom .css file for gnome-shell, but i'm not sure about gnome classic |
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| 06:35.54 | Epic_ | jmcnaught: it can for gnome-shell but i am having a difficult time finding any information about it for gnome classic |
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| 06:41.43 | jmcnaught | Epic_: do you have anything in ~/.local/share/gnome-panel ? |
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| 06:43.02 | Epic_ | jmcnaught: no I do not |
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| 06:45.03 | jmcnaught | Epic_: there's a file /usr/share/gnome-panel/panel-default-layout.layout that seems to define the size of that panel (i'm just speculating here, i don't use classic mode). I'm not sure if you can use a per-user copy of that file in ~/.local/share though. Might be worth a try. Editing the file in /usr/share/gnome-panel will probably get overwritten the next time the package is updated (or could cause dpkg to complain loudly...) |
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| 06:45.44 | __jacks | hi guys, im trying to use ldapmodify to change a users password policy from pwdLockout: TRUE to FALSE anyone know how i can do this or what the ldif would be ? |
| 06:45.49 | Epic_ | I got it fixed |
| 06:46.05 | jmcnaught | Epic_: what did the trick? |
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| 06:47.11 | jmcnaught | Epic_: if you do edit the file in /usr/share/gnome-panel, you might consider using dpkg-divert so that dpkg knows not to overwrite the file |
| 06:48.35 | Epic_ | I just switched it to high inverse and it fixed it |
| 06:49.38 | jmcnaught | Epic_: cool, glad you figured it out :) |
| 06:50.06 | Epic_ | Thank you for your help |
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| 06:57.21 | __jacks | all i want to do is change a single users attributes in ldap, the user 'admin' needs their account pwdLockout attribute changed from TRUE to FALSE |
| 06:58.24 | __jacks | anyone know how i can do this ? |
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| 07:03.15 | trijntje | Hi all, I'm looking for a tool to download a package AND all its dependencies to install on an offline system. Basically something like apt-get download firefox --with-dependencies. Does such a tool exist? |
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| 07:04.20 | jmcnaught | !apt offline |
| 07:04.20 | Skwallinux92 | download offline ? |
| 07:04.20 | dpkg | To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read http://batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html . Ask me about <apt-zip>, <apt-walkabout>. |
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| 07:05.01 | jmcnaught | trijntje: see ^^ you can also ask dpkg bot for more with "/msg dpkg apt-zip" for example |
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| 07:12.25 | jmcnaught | trijntje: firefox of course doesn't exist on Debian, it's rebranded as Iceweasel :) |
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| 07:13.33 | trijntje | jmcnaught: you caught me, I'm secretly on ubuntu ;) However, since I had a question about *debian* packages I thought I'd try asking it here |
| 07:14.04 | jmcnaught | trijntje: in the future please ask in #ubuntu. This channel is only for Debian. |
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| 07:14.55 | jmcnaught | !tell trijntje -about based on debian |
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| 07:36.42 | ffog | every once in a while, fonts go glitchy for me... portions of letters get cut off: http://i.imgur.com/VkmDPAb.png |
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| 07:44.07 | jargon | i did an apt-get upgrade from wheezy to jessie, then rebooted. now i'm at the gnome3 login and can't login, because neither the mouse nor the keyboard or touchpad are working. i also can't seem to Ctrl+Alt+Fx to a console, or has this been disabled for some reason in debian? haven't used debian in at least a year now. |
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| 07:45.47 | milligan | Hey - I'm trying to set up a pptp server for some testing (I will switch to OpenVPN for security later). I get the connection and I get an IP etc, but I can't surf through the connection. It seems like I don't get a default route. I can't ping the tunnel end point either |
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| 07:46.58 | jmcnaught | jargon: someone here might know, but it might be better to ask in #debian-next on irc.debian.org (which is part of OFTC not freenode) |
| 07:48.09 | jargon | jmcnaught: oh sorry. i forgot about that. ok thanks |
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| 08:08.50 | munnis | Hi all, I need help with an issue that is terrorizing my server. When we type reboot, we get the message "The system is going down for a reboot NOW!". However, nothing happens... I can still browse around and use the machine. But the system never reboots, it did kill the mysql service though. |
| 08:08.55 | munnis | If I type reboot again, the system reboots |
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| 08:09.31 | munnis | Am using stable 7 wheezy |
| 08:10.05 | munnis | It do actually kill some services such as mysql, but it never reboots. Just confirmed it. |
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| 08:10.41 | jmcnaught | munnis: are there any clues in the logs? |
| 08:10.45 | munnis | syslog? |
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| 08:11.17 | jmcnaught | munnis: definitely a good place to start |
| 08:11.35 | munnis | http://pastebin.com/urx1Agcw |
| 08:11.44 | munnis | and thats it, it ends at line 10 |
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| 08:12.35 | jmcnaught | munnis: the next oldest syslog would be syslog.1, also please use http://paste.debian.net instead of pastebin :) |
| 08:13.09 | XF | hello , how i can connect to the internet through USB modem 3G , text mode interface , any help pls - thank U . |
| 08:13.11 | munnis | http://paste.debian.net/108997/ |
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| 08:15.26 | jmcnaught | munnis: what about syslog.1? is this a VPS? |
| 08:15.45 | munnis | why would I look in syslog.1? :o |
| 08:16.21 | mr_foobar_baz | um.. should I be worried that the mysql password of the mysqld on my local development machine stopped working and I had to reset it? |
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| 08:16.58 | babilen | mr_foobar_baz: You should tremble in fear |
| 08:17.19 | mr_foobar_baz | babilen: ok, are there ay connection logs that I can use to see if anyone other than me connected? |
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| 08:18.08 | jmcnaught | munnis: why not? you're looking for clues right, and your syslog is only 10 lines long so maybe there's more info in the older one. I would also check messages, dmesg, kern.log |
| 08:18.27 | munnis | it is not 10 lines long, I pasted the output from when I entered reboot |
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| 08:19.10 | jmcnaught | munnis: sorry i misunderstood |
| 08:19.12 | munnis | mr_foobar_baz: what are you saying? :o |
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| 08:20.27 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: I have a mysql server on my laptop that I use for developing stuff that uses mysql. I use it every day. Today I try to log into mysql with the root user and phpmyadmin gave me an error like "1045 can't log in" |
| 08:20.42 | munnis | oh, thought you were bashing my syslog output :) |
| 08:20.45 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: So I reset the mysql root password and now it works fine with the new password |
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| 08:21.07 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: I'm just thinking WTF, why did that happen? |
| 08:21.22 | munnis | am also having issues with mysql |
| 08:21.26 | munnis | it stops my server from rebooting |
| 08:21.48 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: did someone break into my machine somehow just to fuck with my development mysql? |
| 08:21.54 | munnis | most likely |
| 08:21.59 | munnis | hell foobar, I do not know |
| 08:22.22 | mr_foobar_baz | it's not even accessible from the net, only from the LAN I am on, which is home or work |
| 08:22.32 | jmcnaught | munnis: it might not be mysql that's stopping the system from shutting down. mysql seems to be reporting that it's shutdown, and you say that it's stopped. |
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| 08:22.54 | munnis | I could not reach the databases, it could still be running in some wierd sense. |
| 08:23.00 | mr_foobar_baz | or I made some mistake that corrupted the mysql PW somehow but that's weird |
| 08:23.17 | jmcnaught | munnis: does it show up in "ps aux | grep mysql" ? |
| 08:23.19 | munnis | ehm, jmcnaught |
| 08:23.20 | babilen | mr_foobar_baz: I'd ask that in #mysql and it depends on your logging settings |
| 08:23.30 | munnis | when I type pgrep mysql, there are 2 entries |
| 08:23.34 | munnis | if I type reboot |
| 08:23.36 | munnis | they become 6 |
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| 08:24.12 | mr_foobar_baz | babilen: good idea, thanks. it looks like the root account could have been corrupted, not sure how: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?10,371789,371789 |
| 08:24.26 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: I have 6 |
| 08:24.35 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: How many CPU cores do you have? |
| 08:24.42 | munnis | 2 |
| 08:24.44 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: I know nginx makes one process per core |
| 08:24.50 | munnis | we dont use nginx |
| 08:24.55 | munnis | we dont use a webserver at all |
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| 08:25.03 | mr_foobar_baz | yes but maybe mysql does something similar |
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| 08:25.54 | munnis | http://paste.debian.net/108999/ |
| 08:25.58 | munnis | this are the ps auz output |
| 08:26.02 | munnis | after reboot has been initiated |
| 08:26.45 | mr_foobar_baz | mine looks similar except for the two lines with init.d in it |
| 08:26.55 | mr_foobar_baz | so that might be what you are looking for |
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| 08:27.19 | jmcnaught | munnis: mysql also has logs in /var/log... |
| 08:27.50 | munnis | if you have enabled logging yes :) THey are empty for me it seems |
| 08:28.43 | munnis | they are enabled now.. so lets see |
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| 08:30.12 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: same for me |
| 08:30.25 | munnis | what you talking about son? |
| 08:30.34 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: my logs are empty too |
| 08:30.38 | mr_foobar_baz | munnis: unfortunately |
| 08:30.54 | munnis | It is because you have commented it away in my.cfg |
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| 08:32.04 | __jacks | anyone familiar with ldap i have a couple of questions |
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| 08:34.14 | babilen | __jacks: #ldap comes to mind |
| 08:35.19 | jmcnaught | munnis: well i need to get to bed, i hope you figure it out. If this isn't a dedicated server but a VPS (especially openvz) you might consider talking to your provider. As far as I know even if MySQL isn't stopping properly init would just kill it eventually so it could reboot. Maybe someone else will have a better idea. Good luck! :) |
| 08:35.39 | munnis | Night |
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| 08:46.09 | BenjaminR | Hi guys. I run apache on debian with suPHP. Smth keeps setting umask to 0077 but in suphp.conf ive set it to 0022. /etc/profiles and envvars are set to the expected value also. any hints? |
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| 09:04.37 | mr_foobar_baz | turns out my filesystem and mysql tables aren't corrupted, yet some mysql data was missing... glad that I have backups of everything |
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| 09:41.39 | ToApolytoXaos | greetings everyone. i have noticed a peculiar behavior with my GNU Debian testing (64-bit) since the official use of systemd. it would start with ~210MB RAM in use and after I use anything and then close it, it would consume double the initial memory. Another awkward thing is how are my i5 cores behaving; they constantly switch between 800MHz to 3200MHz which is its top use. |
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| 09:45.38 | petn-randall | ToApolytoXaos: jessie/sid are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. Sounds like a non-problem to me, though. |
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| 09:49.58 | hardman | any vyatta expert here? |
| 09:50.31 | ToApolytoXaos | thanks petn-randall |
| 09:50.40 | babilen | dpkg: vyatta |
| 09:50.40 | dpkg | Vyatta Core is a Linux distribution based on Debian, providing routing, stateful firewalling and secure communication through IPsec and OpenVPN. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.vyatta.org/ ##vyatta on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 09:51.17 | hardman | babilen, i have a question. . .can u answer (regarding vyatta)? |
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| 09:52.05 | babilen | hardman: No, please ask in ##vyatto or ##linux on irc.freenode.net |
| 09:52.13 | hardman | ok thanks |
| 09:52.16 | babilen | ##vyatta that is :) |
| 09:52.22 | babilen | All the best! |
| 09:52.50 | hardman | thanks man |
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| 09:53.03 | daslicht | how to properly install this on debian : |
| 09:53.04 | daslicht | http://xtables-addons.sourceforge.net/geoip.php |
| 09:53.05 | daslicht | ? |
| 09:53.36 | daslicht | tis via aptget: |
| 09:53.37 | daslicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:53.37 | daslicht | ? |
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| 09:56.24 | feedom | I have been using aptitude thus far, would using apt-get cause subtle issues? |
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| 09:56.47 | feedom | that is mixing the two. |
| 09:57.42 | vedranm | hi guys, is there a method or a trick to boot debian with secure boot on? our IT guys install Win8 under UEFI, so it has to be on |
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| 09:57.56 | daslicht | no idea |
| 09:58.08 | daslicht | anyone got experience with the xtables-addons ? |
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| 10:00.43 | Infra_HDC | daslicht, I had, following https://debian.pro/510 (on Russian). works fine on 6.0 i686 |
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| 10:02.01 | Infra_HDC | daslicht, try google translate ? |
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| 10:05.12 | visof | what should be the permissions of the Dir to allow any user to place files in the directory, but not to delete any other user‘s files ? |
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| 10:08.01 | daslicht_ | And skopipastit directory ? |
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| 10:09.43 | daslicht_ | teh commands out of the tutorial are not valid here |
| 10:09.49 | daslicht_ | iptables -I INPUT! -I lo-m geoip - src-cc US-j DROP ? |
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| 10:12.11 | Infra_HDC | mad spaces )) |
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| 10:18.09 | Infra_HDC | daslicht_, try iptables -I INPUT ! -i lo -m geoip -src-cc US -j DROP |
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| 10:18.26 | daslicht_ | foiund this: |
| 10:18.27 | daslicht_ | http://www.atwillys.de/content/linux/blocking-countries-using-geoip-and-iptables-on-ubuntu/ |
| 10:18.28 | Infra_HDC | AFK |
| 10:18.31 | daslicht_ | its in english an d german |
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| 10:19.29 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice morning guys! |
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| 10:22.37 | feedom | I want to upgrade to testing to report bugs and have more recent software, but can someone take a look at this real quick and let me know if im good to go: http://pastebin.com/eZmg2CUY |
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| 10:23.50 | feedom | previous command was aptitude full-upgrade. |
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| 10:46.36 | jradd | I'm curious if anybody here has an opinion of permissions to set on web data directory `/srv/www` |
| 10:46.59 | petern__ | well that depends on what you need to do |
| 10:47.14 | jradd | lets say nginx/gunicorn |
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| 10:47.17 | petern__ | debian uses /var/www by default anyway |
| 10:47.30 | jradd | yeah, sorry. I use /srv for some reason |
| 10:47.41 | petern__ | i don't know what gunicorn is |
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| 10:47.56 | peetaur2 | jradd: yeah depends. Mostly default would be root:www-data with g+rX, and then some exceptions, like wordpress needs rwX to its modules/extensions directory. |
| 10:47.57 | petern__ | but what you need to do with your webroot is probably independent of what you're using to host it |
| 10:48.44 | petern__ | if anything needs to write, i prefer to use suexec |
| 10:48.45 | jradd | peetaur2: that is very close to how I do it, thanks! |
| 10:48.59 | jradd | what does `X` equate to? |
| 10:49.08 | petern__ | execute on directories |
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| 10:50.03 | peetaur2 | jradd: and I also prefer /srv to /var ... (1) static web content is NOT variable any more than /etc is ... mostly manual, wordpress is an exception (2) if you want to back things up, it's nice to just copy /srv and not have to deal with exceptions like you want /var/lib/mysql but not /var/lib/cache, etc. so you can't just grab /var/ or /var/lib |
| 10:50.23 | jradd | so if i have multiple sites running different servers (nginx/gunicorn, nginx/passenger) or something and have `/srv/www/site1,site2,etc` |
| 10:50.35 | jradd | www would be root:www-data |
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| 10:50.52 | jradd | and then sit1 could be user:www-data |
| 10:50.54 | jradd | for instance? |
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| 10:51.30 | jradd | obviously it *could* be anything. but I want your opinion is what i mean |
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| 10:52.28 | jradd | or would you set /srv/www/site1 to to root:www-data as well |
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| 10:53.43 | petn-randall | jradd: You should only give write permissions if you really need them. So if apache2 doesn't need to write there, you shouldn't give it 'w'. If users should be able to log in and write data to those folders, you should give them write permissions, yes. |
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| 10:54.38 | Anarch | hddtemp requires sudo in Wheezy, but did not require it in Ubuntu Hardy. Is there some workaround available, such as adding the user to some group? |
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| 10:55.36 | jradd | awesome! thanks guys, and i am amazed to see that i'm not the only one using `/srv` for static content :) |
| 10:55.54 | petn-randall | Anarch: You can always add the suid bit, but I don't recommend that. |
| 10:56.29 | Anarch | petn-randall: Hmm ... you're right, THAT is how Ubuntu did it. Thanks. |
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| 11:26.53 | The-Compiler | I remember running some command to change the permission flags for a file, in a way it won't get overridden by apt/dpkg when doing an update. Anyone knows what that was? I grepped for apt/dpkg in my shell history but no luck. |
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| 11:28.34 | petn-randall | The-Compiler: Probably something with dpkg-divert? What are you trying to do? |
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| 11:29.24 | The-Compiler | petn-randall: Migrating an install to a new server, and I remember I executed that at some point because of some tutorial or so (related to nagios/icinga/pnp4icinga probably), and I wonder what it was |
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| 11:30.07 | nkuttler | The-Compiler: dpkg-statoverride ? |
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| 11:30.52 | The-Compiler | I can't find anything special in dpkg-statoverride --list and dpkg-divert --list, and not in the history either. Maybe I'm just mistaken and it was another machine. |
| 11:31.22 | donttrustem__ | hi guys ..I am trying to set the correct time and used tzdata to set the correct timezone but the time is not changing Current default time zone: 'Europe/Madrid' |
| 11:31.22 | donttrustem__ | Local time is now: Thu Jul 10 11:27:51 UTC 2014. |
| 11:31.44 | donttrustem__ | the time should be 13:27 |
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| 11:32.45 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 11:33.13 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, that is what have just ran |
| 11:33.23 | donttrustem__ | but the time did not change |
| 11:33.53 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: ntpdate time-b.nist.gov |
| 11:34.01 | Shadow_7 | or whatever ntp server is local-ish to you |
| 11:34.07 | donttrustem__ | ok |
| 11:35.10 | Shadow_7 | tzdata is just stuff for /etc/localtime and /etc/timezone |
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| 11:35.32 | donttrustem__ | 10 Jul 11:35:04 ntpdate[27343]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting |
| 11:35.36 | Shadow_7 | one is the text name of the timezone, the other is a copy or symlink to the locale |
| 11:35.51 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: pgrep ntpd |
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| 11:36.16 | donttrustem__ | 5957 |
| 11:36.22 | donttrustem__ | shall I kill it |
| 11:36.36 | Shadow_7 | no... you have a ntp daemon running |
| 11:36.45 | Shadow_7 | ntpdate is a one time run variant |
| 11:36.51 | donttrustem__ | OK |
| 11:36.58 | donttrustem__ | need to check the config |
| 11:37.01 | donttrustem__ | for ntp |
| 11:37.10 | Shadow_7 | there may be firewall issues blocking ntp |
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| 11:37.34 | donttrustem__ | not sure why |
| 11:37.50 | Shadow_7 | stopping the ntpd and doing the ntpdate variant should hint if that's an issue. |
| 11:39.36 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: date -u |
| 11:39.39 | donttrustem__ | OK I stopped the service and ran ntpdate 0.es.pool.ntp.org |
| 11:39.39 | donttrustem__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:39.47 | Shadow_7 | and see if it's close to expectations of UTC time |
| 11:40.03 | donttrustem__ | Thu Jul 10 11:39:45 UTC 2014 |
| 11:40.11 | donttrustem__ | but that time is not correct |
| 11:40.20 | donttrustem__ | 2 hours wrong |
| 11:41.05 | Shadow_7 | DST? idk... $ cat /etc/timezone |
| 11:41.33 | donttrustem__ | Europe/Madrid |
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| 11:41.57 | jradd | would you suggest installing python-virtualenv or using pip to install on wheezy? |
| 11:42.33 | jradd | does it need to be installed globally is my question i guess. |
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| 11:43.09 | jradd | might be a better question for #python |
| 11:43.53 | Shadow_7 | looking for actual path of Europe/Madrid for /etc/localtime |
| 11:44.35 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: cmp /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid |
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| 11:45.20 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, cmp: /etc/localtime: Is a directory |
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| 11:45.44 | Shadow_7 | odd, that should be a link or a copy |
| 11:45.55 | daslicht_ | I found this tutorial but i am stuck when running module-assistent: |
| 11:45.56 | daslicht_ | http://blog.ls20.com/iptables-geoip-port-knocking-and-port-scan-detection/ |
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| 11:46.29 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: what is under the /etc/localtime/ path? |
| 11:47.03 | donttrustem__ | should be localtime I think |
| 11:47.13 | SynrG | daslicht_: module-assistant is old. We use dkms now. |
| 11:47.32 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, local do not exist |
| 11:47.37 | daslicht_ | ok i google for it |
| 11:47.39 | donttrustem__ | localtime does |
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| 11:48.31 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, sorry ... I am made a mistak |
| 11:48.32 | donttrustem__ | e |
| 11:48.34 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: normally /etc/localtime is a link. ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid /etc/localtime |
| 11:48.40 | SynrG | daslicht_: what errors do you get following those instructions? |
| 11:49.05 | daslicht_ | "Bad luck, not matching the current kernel headers were found and there were no further kernel directories specified. If the currently running kernel with the Debian distribution has been delivered, please install the package linux-headers-3.2.41-042stab090.3. If your kernel source code is located at an unusual position, enter it in the environment variable KERNELDIRS known or (alternatively) as a parameter of the - kernel-dir when calling th |
| 11:49.05 | daslicht_ | e module-assistant." |
| 11:49.06 | Shadow_7 | which is why I said to cmp it to see if it was a link or a copy |
| 11:49.13 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, 2013 localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe |
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| 11:49.46 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: that seems to be the issue. Should link to ...Europe/Madrid |
| 11:49.48 | threenuc | Hey. my xorg.conf file finds 3 screens (I have 3 ports, D-sub 2x and mini-HDMI), but only one is used (minihdmi). Anyways I edited xorg.conf's all 3 screens to use vesa. Now X doesn't start and I get warnings that: hotplugging is on and that devices that use "kbd" or "mouse" or "vmouse" and from vesa for all 3 screens: "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver" + "Falling back to old probe method for vesa". Then error that n |
| 11:49.51 | threenuc | o? |
| 11:49.52 | donttrustem__ | I will change the link t |
| 11:50.26 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: perhaps selectable with dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 11:50.36 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, really bizzare ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid /etc/localtime |
| 11:50.36 | donttrustem__ | ln: failed to create symbolic link `/etc/localtime/Madrid': File exists |
| 11:50.41 | SynrG | daslicht_: so do what it says |
| 11:50.48 | Shadow_7 | you might just selected the off one when you did it last time |
| 11:51.01 | daslicht_ | SynrG: I have no clue what it wants me to do |
| 11:51.01 | Shadow_7 | s/just/have/ |
| 11:51.18 | daslicht_ | SynrG: to many if's |
| 11:51.35 | SynrG | You need the matching linux-headers-amd64 or whatever |
| 11:51.35 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 11:51.44 | SynrG | Just install it |
| 11:51.53 | daslicht_ | how? |
| 11:51.59 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, I just ran it again but the time is the same :( |
| 11:52.07 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: otherwise ln -s <exists> <new> aka ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid /etc/localtime |
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| 11:52.42 | SynrG | daslicht_: looks like a non Debian kernel. Self built? |
| 11:52.52 | daslicht_ | its debian image from strato |
| 11:52.57 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: so /etc/localtime is a directory? and the contents of that directory? |
| 11:53.13 | daslicht_ | its a vserver from strato Debian 7 |
| 11:53.29 | daslicht_ | nothing self built by myself |
| 11:53.34 | tormen | Hi. What could be the reason for /usr/sbin/rpc.gssd –f –vvv to detach to the background ... and by doing so ignoring the -f parameter ? |
| 11:53.53 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, Madrid -> ../posix/Europe/Madrid |
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| 11:54.07 | gribouille | hi |
| 11:54.14 | SynrG | daslicht_: they have their own apt repo? |
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| 11:54.26 | daslicht_ | root@h2318011:/usr/lib/xtables-addons# uname -r |
| 11:54.26 | daslicht_ | 3.2.41-042stab090.3 |
| 11:54.28 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, it has all the europen timezones |
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| 11:54.39 | daslicht_ | SynrG: I dont know |
| 11:54.40 | gribouille | I copy /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/chromium/plugins, but chromium doesn't detect the flash plugin |
| 11:54.50 | SynrG | daslicht_: you need to investigate |
| 11:54.53 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: assuming it actually works that way. Does /etc/posix/Europe/Madrid match /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid ? |
| 11:54.59 | daslicht_ | SynrG: how and where ? |
| 11:55.20 | hazard | How do I see more of a description of software with apt? For example, when I just did "apt-cache search plone" it came up with some python module, and I'm curious what made it show up at all. |
| 11:55.20 | SynrG | Either they provide a matching headers package or you are screwed |
| 11:55.33 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, nope |
| 11:55.34 | donttrustem__ | root@systemcms:/etc/localtime# cd /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid |
| 11:55.34 | donttrustem__ | -bash: cd: /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid: Not a directory |
| 11:55.39 | daslicht_ | what a mess |
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| 11:56.09 | SynrG | Beats me. Look, I'm on my cell on the bus. It's awkward to be your google proxy |
| 11:56.10 | petn-randall | hazard: aptitude show <somepackage> |
| 11:56.13 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: if you haven't already... apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update |
| 11:56.18 | hazard | petn-randall: Thanks. |
| 11:56.23 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: apt-file find Europe/Madrid |
| 11:56.27 | gribouille | how can I install the flash plugin for chromium on jessie? |
| 11:56.58 | SynrG | You can't |
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| 11:57.11 | SynrG | Oh. Flash. You can |
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| 11:57.30 | gribouille | SynrG, how? |
| 11:57.35 | petn-randall | hazard: The man page to aptitude is pretty straight-forward, I recommend looking stuff up there if you're missing something. |
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| 11:57.37 | SynrG | pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 11:57.45 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, OK done that |
| 11:57.48 | SynrG | From contrib |
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| 11:58.16 | SynrG | It's only the Java plugin that is gone |
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| 11:58.23 | SynrG | Brain fart |
| 11:58.28 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: not quite sure why your paths differ so greatly from mine. But US setups are probably overly simplified. |
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| 11:58.40 | hazard | Sorry about that, I missed that last comment to me, and apparently forgot to turn logging on in this new installation |
| 11:58.53 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, the time is still not correct ( |
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| 11:59.10 | tormen | Hi. What could be the reason for /usr/sbin/rpc.gssd –f –vvv to directly detach to the background and return $?=0 ... instead of running in foreground as the -f parameter (according to the man) should dictate ? |
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| 12:00.00 | tormen | ah f*ck... ok... I copied a LONG dash from a website ... instaed of the short dash... damn it ;) |
| 12:00.41 | petn-randall | tormen: *never* copy stuff from a website directly to the shell, that's a straight-forward way to get your machine 0wned. |
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| 12:01.11 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata --- for me and UTC is 12:00:10 with local at 14:00:10 when using Europe/Madrid |
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| 12:01.40 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: and /etc/localtime is still a file, not a directory |
| 12:01.58 | petn-randall | tormen: Whoever pasted the code on the site can easily add a RTL marker in there and hide any shell code they want. |
| 12:02.34 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, Really strange |
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| 12:03.07 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: in days of old /etc/localtime is file, not a directory. Are you running debian? Or something non-debian? |
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| 12:03.45 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, I am running debian 6 |
| 12:03.49 | daslicht_ | SynrG: I have this Kernel https://packages.debian.org/de/wheezy/linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae |
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| 12:04.00 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: so squeeze? |
| 12:04.11 | daslicht_ | SynrG: according to : |
| 12:04.13 | daslicht_ | root@h2318011:/lib/modules# ls |
| 12:04.13 | daslicht_ | 3.2.0-4-686-pae 3.2.0-4-rt-686-pa |
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| 12:04.47 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, yeah |
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| 12:05.12 | daslicht_ | hm why does uname-r displays something different: |
| 12:05.12 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: obviously your config does something or local time would be UTC time. But I'm tempted to maybe rename /etc/localtime directory and create manually the /etc/localtime file / link |
| 12:05.14 | daslicht_ | root@h2318011:/usr/lib/xtables-addons# uname -r |
| 12:05.14 | daslicht_ | 3.2.41-042stab090.3 |
| 12:05.31 | donttrustem__ | OK |
| 12:05.39 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, let me try |
| 12:05.42 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: your call if you want to try that. The rename should allow for an undo |
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| 12:06.42 | donttrustem__ | OK .. testing now |
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| 12:07.20 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, ntpdate 0.es.pool.ntp.org |
| 12:07.20 | donttrustem__ | 10 Jul 14:06:57 ntpdate[28815]: adjust time server 84.88.69.32 offset 0.002136 sec |
| 12:07.43 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, really strange that it created a dir instead of a ln |
| 12:08.13 | donttrustem__ | it is working now so I will restart the ntpd |
| 12:08.14 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: apt-get install --reinstall tzdata |
| 12:08.26 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: if it works... no need |
| 12:08.59 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, OK done the reinstall and it is working |
| 12:09.00 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: although the next update might do that on you and if that breaks it again... *sigh* |
| 12:09.05 | tormen | petn-randall: Thanks!! You are right! :)) |
| 12:09.33 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: you could probably remove the old thing that you renamed |
| 12:09.35 | tormen | petn-randall: ... so even if I would copy this into a text editor there could be hidden text ? |
| 12:09.45 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, just ran tzdata again and it did not break it |
| 12:09.47 | petn-randall | tormen: Even found the website documenting it, here you go: http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste |
| 12:10.27 | donttrustem__ | Shadow_7, thanks for your help |
| 12:10.49 | threenuc | So can anybody help me out with my xorg.conf problem? |
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| 12:10.50 | tormen | petn-randall: thanks ! so copying to text editor inbetween does protect |
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| 12:11.05 | Shadow_7 | donttrustem__: glad it was help... since your system differs a bit from mine, but I'm on 7 |
| 12:11.10 | tormen | petn-randall: really nice :)) |
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| 12:16.06 | e-anima | anyone here successfully installed ajenti on a debian wheezy. my problem is that i can not connect to port 8000 it just refuses. |
| 12:16.21 | abrotman | e-anima: from where? |
| 12:16.26 | e-anima | localhost |
| 12:16.41 | e-anima | its my testing vm where i install it |
| 12:16.53 | abrotman | are you sure it's listening? use netstat to verify |
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| 12:17.34 | e-anima | hm its not |
| 12:17.56 | abrotman | taht seems like a problme |
| 12:18.02 | abrotman | breaks his fingers |
| 12:18.03 | e-anima | do i manually need to add listen 8000 to my apache config? |
| 12:18.47 | tdn | I have set up duplicity to backup my server to another server via SFTP. So now I have saved the encryption passphrase that I stated, however, is this enough to recover? Or do I also need to have a separate backup of the GPG keys? If so, how is the best way of doing that? Or is it enough to remember my passphrase? |
| 12:18.55 | e-anima | i am not sure how to fix this. maybe ajenti is broken. webmin works with ist 10000 port |
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| 12:19.17 | abrotman | webmin is hardly a measure of success ... |
| 12:19.29 | abrotman | e-anima: perhaps you should read their docs and see if you need to enable it somehow |
| 12:19.46 | e-anima | hehe. i am just testing some server management guis for fun |
| 12:19.47 | abrotman | tdn: part of a good backup plan is ensuring you can restore ;) |
| 12:19.54 | e-anima | abrotman will try this. thx |
| 12:20.11 | boratynskikamil | Has anyone of you any idea, why OCFS may not add device because of internal failure? |
| 12:20.34 | tdn | abrotman, exactly. That is why I am trying to get an idea of what is needed. |
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| 12:23.11 | e-anima | hm i think ajenti is just broken. i mean i run the service with /etc/init.d/ajenti start and its not listening on port 8000 |
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| 12:23.35 | e-anima | again a bad idea installing stuff from a non official paket source |
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| 12:45.32 | e-anima | puh. i dared to tried to update: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server: mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.5; however: Package mysql-server-5.5 is not configured yet. |
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| 12:45.49 | e-anima | googling around but i have no idea whats this again. |
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| 12:50.59 | peetaur2 | e-anima: running dpkg commands or apt-get? |
| 12:51.09 | jelly | !bat |
| 12:51.09 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 12:51.21 | peetaur2 | e-anima: apt-get should be better, but if it does that you probably just have to install that specific package to either have it work or see the proper error message |
| 12:51.30 | jelly | e-anima: please provide the data dpkg requested above ^^ |
| 12:51.32 | e-anima | checking |
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| 12:55.17 | e-anima | does purge actually kill the mysql databases? |
| 12:55.59 | SynrGy | i think it asks |
| 12:56.06 | SynrGy | if you really want to know, read the scripts |
| 12:56.35 | SynrGy | if you don't want to read the scripts and/or just want to make sure, back them up first if you need to keep them. |
| 12:56.51 | SynrGy | see /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-*.* |
| 12:57.02 | SynrGy | particularly postrm |
| 12:57.05 | e-anima | well not important, i killed it somehow |
| 12:57.28 | e-anima | mysql server seems to work now again. i will just input my backup |
| 12:58.22 | chovy | what's the average release cycle for debian? |
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| 13:07.58 | touki | How can it be that the grub I'm in does not find command such as 'root' or 'kernel', so it seems difficult to boot from GRUB console to USB or LINUX |
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| 13:15.57 | jelly | !tell chovy about release history |
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| 13:33.35 | e-anima | if i start a service like "sevice ajenti start" it says ok started. then i do "service ajanti stop"..it says failed, not running. strange. does that mean the startup crashed silently? |
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| 13:41.43 | edoardo | hi |
| 13:41.53 | edoardo | how can i add only a subsection of a repo in debian? |
| 13:42.18 | alad | man apt_preferences |
| 13:42.45 | brontosaurusrex | edoardo, example: deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-beta |
| 13:42.53 | vlt | Hello. I have an md raid10. I doubled the physical size of each raid member and wanted to resize to --size=max but that seems still impossible nowadays with raid10. Is there a better way than to remove half of the members, build a new raid10, move data, delete old array and then to add missing members? |
| 13:43.04 | edoardo | brontosaurusrex, thank you! |
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| 13:43.54 | edoardo | brontosaurusrex, is deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian sid hamradio valid? |
| 13:45.09 | brontosaurusrex | edoardo, i'd watch how crazy apt-get update gets |
| 13:45.12 | e-anima | does anyone know where i get get syntax highlight definitions vor gedit or gedit? |
| 13:45.21 | edoardo | let's try this heh |
| 13:45.23 | edoardo | thanks |
| 13:45.24 | alad | edoardo: have fun breaking your system |
| 13:45.35 | edoardo | alad, i love breaking systems |
| 13:45.55 | alad | ... right |
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| 13:47.05 | edoardo | apt-get is yelling at me |
| 13:47.44 | babilen | edoardo: There is no "hamradio" compnents. What are you trying to do? |
| 13:47.50 | babilen | *component |
| 13:48.13 | edoardo | babilen, https://packages.debian.org/unstable/hamradio/ add this section |
| 13:48.59 | babilen | edoardo: That's not a section. That is a specific package in unstable. Are you tracking unstable already? |
| 13:49.18 | edoardo | nope, i'm only in testing |
| 13:49.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell edoardo -about tum |
| 13:49.39 | edoardo | i'd like to install gqrx-sdr but i can't find a way to do that without adding the repo |
| 13:49.54 | babilen | edoardo: Configure your system as detailed in the private message and pull the package from sid with "apt-get -t unstable install hamradio" |
| 13:50.15 | brontosaurusrex | alad, my man, is that you? |
| 13:50.25 | edoardo | cool! |
| 13:50.33 | edoardo | sounds good |
| 13:50.39 | alad | brontosaurusrex: yep ;) |
| 13:50.43 | babilen | judd: v gqrx-sdr |
| 13:50.44 | judd | Package: gqrx-sdr on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 2.2.0.74.d97bd7-2~bpo70~1; sid: 2.2.0.137.eca0ea7-1 |
| 13:51.07 | brontosaurusrex | alad, just saying: thanks for all your knowhow so far, appriciated a lot. |
| 13:51.08 | babilen | edoardo: There is no "hamradio" package, but gqrx-sdr exists. So install that rather than "hamradio" |
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| 13:51.38 | edoardo | ?!? |
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| 13:51.46 | edoardo | is gqrx-sdr in wheezy-backports? |
| 13:52.06 | alad | brontosaurusrex: happy to oblige |
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| 13:52.27 | edoardo | i only have squeeze-backports |
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| 13:52.34 | edoardo | is it safe to add wheezy-backports? |
| 13:54.32 | brontosaurusrex | edoardo, if you are testing, i dont think you should have any backports at all |
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| 13:54.50 | edoardo | brontosaurusrex, but i do and i don't know why |
| 13:54.57 | edoardo | i might just reinstall everything |
| 13:55.00 | edoardo | it's all broken |
| 13:55.03 | babilen | edoardo: Could you paste the output of "head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 13:55.19 | SynrGy | edoardo: having useless backports won't break things. just remove them |
| 13:55.30 | SynrGy | none of those will contain anything useful |
| 13:55.35 | tuor-work | babilen, thx for your help the other day. My wireless is working well since the kernel and kernel-firmware update. :) |
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| 13:56.47 | chovy | thanks jelly |
| 13:56.55 | chovy | so every 2 years give or take |
| 13:57.01 | babilen | tuor-work: Oh, that is wonderful. |
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| 13:57.27 | codekK | Hi all, i have a little question. Im using debian testing at netbook (atom processor) with 1GB RAM. At the moment i have it configure for use all ram i have used amount 900MB and 100 free, and i have 2GB or swap and its unused all. Its a good way? or i have to use a little bit more the swap for better performance? I want better performance and battery life, not using swap i think i get more life battery its correct? u suggest my something else for good |
| 13:57.27 | codekK | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:03.29 | vlt | codekK: Using much RAM = good. Having to use swap = bad. |
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| 14:03.45 | vlt | codekK: Using swap => worse performance |
| 14:04.04 | vlt | codekK: Using swap => reduced battery life |
| 14:04.06 | codekK | vlt, then my solution is good? use all the available ram (1gb) after that it will force to use swap |
| 14:04.17 | vlt | codekK: Yes. |
| 14:04.17 | codekK | yes¿ |
| 14:04.19 | codekK | Okey |
| 14:04.22 | codekK | vlt, thank you |
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| 14:04.42 | codekK | I will try to purchase other memory module maybe 2gb or 4gb. cause netbook only have a one slot |
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| 14:05.45 | peetaur2 | buy bigger or you'll regret it.. 2 is not enough |
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| 14:06.01 | edoardo | hey it's working! |
| 14:06.22 | edoardo | now apt-get wants the whole system upgraded just to install a package |
| 14:06.30 | edoardo | is it possible to skip that and just install? |
| 14:06.48 | edoardo | heh i'm stupid http://serverfault.com/questions/316412/debian-how-to-use-apt-get-install-without-upgrading-dependencies |
| 14:07.39 | babilen | edoardo: Coould you show me the output of "head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}" and your "apt-get wants the whole system upgraded" command on http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 14:08.14 | edoardo | babilen, ok sorry |
| 14:08.49 | babilen | edoardo: Also include "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l libc6 apt base-files" please |
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| 14:10.15 | edoardo | http://paste.debian.net/109049 |
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| 14:11.06 | babilen | Oh dear |
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| 14:11.36 | babilen | edoardo: Do *not* execute that command. What does "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l libc6 apt base-files" give you? |
| 14:12.02 | edoardo | http://paste.debian.net/109051 |
| 14:12.36 | edoardo | is it bad, doctor? |
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| 14:12.57 | babilen | edoardo: Okay. That is *not* a testing system, but a squeeze one (which is "oldstable"). You also have mixed plenty of other third-party repositories in there that are completely unsupported. |
| 14:13.13 | edoardo | babilen, i did not do that |
| 14:13.25 | edoardo | it's the AVLinux default sources.list |
| 14:13.40 | babilen | Please remove the sid line (i.e. line 6) immediately and don't even think about ever adding it in there again. |
| 14:13.52 | babilen | dpkg: avlinux |
| 14:13.52 | dpkg | AV Linux (formerly A/V Linux) is a 32-bit Live DVD distribution based on Debian <squeeze> (as of version 6). It specializes in multimedia content creation using realtime-patched kernels. AV Linux is not supported in #debian. Support forum: http://remastersys.com/forums/?board=20 . http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html See also <based on debian>. |
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| 14:14.59 | babilen | My personal take on that system is: Don't use it, it looks horrible. |
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| 14:15.25 | babilen | (in particular if that is the default ... /etc/apt/sources.list.d/violetsky_steam.list wtf) |
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| 14:15.42 | edoardo | babilen, that line is 404ing every time |
| 14:15.51 | babilen | *shrug* |
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| 14:16.29 | edoardo | hmm |
| 14:16.37 | edoardo | E: broken packages |
| 14:16.50 | lgp171188 | I see that there is a script called quota in /etc/init.d/ folder after installing quota related tools, but is it a service that has to be run? Because when I manually start it, it gives an error like "Quota for users is enabled on mountpoint <mountpoint> so quotacheck might damage the file." |
| 14:17.27 | babilen | edoardo: Your system is not support in here. Please take it to http://remastersys.com/forums/?board=20 -- My recommendation would also be to not use that distribution. |
| 14:18.00 | edoardo | babilen, i'll install pure debian then |
| 14:18.52 | babilen | dpkg: tell edoardo -about install debian |
| 14:19.19 | edoardo | i have the netinst here |
| 14:19.25 | edoardo | going to use that |
| 14:20.28 | babilen | edoardo: Great! Have fun. |
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| 14:20.51 | edoardo | babilen, also, what DE would you raccomend? |
| 14:21.12 | crsuarez | 7wc |
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| 14:24.04 | babilen | edoardo: XFCE or Gnome, but I haven't used a DE in ages. I use window managers such as awesome or i3 these days. |
| 14:24.25 | edoardo | i use xfce but it's meh on debian |
| 14:24.47 | edoardo | it's ok on xubuntu and similar where it's more polished |
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| 14:25.08 | milovan | hi, in debian 7 there is no more scponly. Any replacements? |
| 14:25.08 | babilen | I also don't track stable, but it is your system. Configure it the way you like it. |
| 14:25.18 | babilen | dpkg: tell milovan about scponly |
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| 14:29.36 | edoardo | babilen, also thank you for your time and help |
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| 14:31.39 | milovan | babilen: thanks but bot gave me 404 links |
| 14:31.51 | babilen | both what? |
| 14:32.06 | babilen | dpkg: rssh |
| 14:32.06 | dpkg | rssh is a restricted shell for use with OpenSSH, restricting a user to only use one or more of scp, sftp, cvs, rsync and rdist. It can optionally chroot into a (administrator created) jail before running the command. http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/faq.shtml http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/ See also <scponly>. |
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| 14:32.44 | milovan | okay thanks, rssh could be a replacement |
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| 14:33.12 | babilen | milovan: ^^^ I simply invoked the factoid for that reference. :) |
| 14:33.42 | babilen | I thought it would be more like "scponly has been discontinued ... see <rssh> .. <...> for alternatives |
| 14:34.23 | milovan | yeah thats what i needed, thanks. bot pasted me http://sublimation.org/scponly/wiki/ but its non working link (among other non working links it pasted) |
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| 14:46.53 | ToTheInternet | Weird problem. I installed a package but none of the binaries that should come with it are in place. The documentation is, though. The package in question is flow-tools / flow-tools-dev |
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| 14:47.24 | ToTheInternet | can someone confirm this problem? |
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| 14:47.37 | babilen | ToTheInternet: Install debsums and paste the output of "debums flow-tools" |
| 14:47.52 | babilen | err, "debsums flow-tools" :) |
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| 14:50.33 | ToTheInternet | babilen: sorry. there are 2 different packages floating on the internet with the same name but a different set of tools. the binaries are in place, just not the ones i expected |
| 14:50.53 | babilen | Which files are you looking for? |
| 14:51.07 | ToTheInternet | nfdump is the tool i want to use |
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| 14:51.20 | babilen | judd: file bin/nfdump |
| 14:51.24 | judd | Search for bin/nfdump in wheezy/i386: nfdump: usr/bin/nfdump; nfdump-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/nfdump |
| 14:51.32 | babilen | *surprise* |
| 14:51.50 | babilen | dpkg: tell ToTheInternet -about apt-file |
| 14:52.01 | ToTheInternet | apt-cache search nfdump didn't turn up any results |
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| 14:52.35 | babilen | ToTheInternet: What does "apt-cache policy nfdump" give you? |
| 14:52.51 | ToTheInternet | can't find packet nfdump |
| 14:53.00 | ToTheInternet | there might not be a debian package for this tool in the first place |
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| 14:53.26 | ToTheInternet | there is a toolset called flow-tools that includes nfdump, and a debian package with the same name containing a different set of tools. a bit confusing |
| 14:53.46 | babilen | ToTheInternet: Could you *please* show me the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy nfdump" on http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 14:54.25 | sandman13 | how do I file a bug report? someone link me |
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| 14:55.17 | ToTheInternet | babilen: http://paste2.org/LXwDvn1Y |
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| 14:55.40 | ToTheInternet | babilen: the last line is in german, it says "packet nfdump could not be found" |
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| 14:56.40 | babilen | Well, you are using testing not stable (which is supported in #debian-next) which you really should mention :) |
| 14:56.44 | babilen | judd: v nfdump |
| 14:56.45 | judd | Package: nfdump on i386 -- squeeze: 1.6.1-1; wheezy: 1.6.6-1; sid: 1.6.8p1-1 |
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| 14:56.57 | FrostyX | Hi guys, I have problem with my debian testing. gdm3 highlights users wrong. Higlighted should be logged users, but it highlights me some of them, even they arent logged, and on the other side, dont highlight some of logged users. It very bothers me, cause I just cant see if someone is logged or not. Can you please advice me what to do, or post links to existing bugreports? I just cant find anything |
| 14:57.07 | babilen | ToTheInternet: So, pull it from unstable. Done. Packages are removed from testing quite regularly ... |
| 14:57.11 | afsal | when updating shows these error : http://paste.debian.net/109064/ |
| 14:57.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell ToTheInternet -about tum |
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| 14:58.05 | ToTheInternet | babilen: awesome, thanks a lot |
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| 14:58.38 | shay_shay | babilen: can you explain this: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution |
| 14:59.00 | shay_shay | i dont understand what they mean preferences>distribution |
| 14:59.04 | shay_shay | is that in a menu? |
| 15:00.30 | shay_shay | oh i was thinking about aptitude |
| 15:00.35 | babilen | shay_shay: Yes, presumably that is a synaptic menu. (I neither use nor recommend it) |
| 15:00.42 | afsal | when i'm updating using apt-get update it shows these error : http://paste.debian.net/109064/ |
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| 15:04.55 | shay_shay | afsal: try editing your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all instances of http://http.debian.net with ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian and then apt-get update again |
| 15:05.34 | shay_shay | sorry, http://http.debian.net/debian with ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
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| 15:08.12 | shay_shay | https://www.debian.org/mirror/list here is a list of valid mirrors |
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| 15:15.51 | afsal | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
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| 15:19.45 | FrostyX | anyone doesnt know, please? I just wanna fix it and go home :-D please |
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| 15:24.21 | shay_shay | O_o |
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| 15:33.55 | New | ah... |
| 15:34.07 | New | hello? |
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| 15:34.37 | New | evil people use a MacBook. |
| 15:34.56 | New | That sounds like 'redhat' but with a proprietary bossman. |
| 15:35.00 | New | *shudder*. |
| 15:35.11 | dondelelcaro | New: best to just ask your Debian-related question |
| 15:35.21 | New | Correct. |
| 15:35.28 | New | sorry. |
| 15:35.35 | New | quit |
| 15:35.37 | New | opps. |
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| 15:36.03 | chops_ | So netselect-apt doesn't seem to have very useful output (it selects "-" as my most preferred mirror, and puts mirrors in the Middle East in my top 10, me being in the US). Is there some other package to solve this important problem that everyone is using instead? |
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| 15:36.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | chops_, yes, but it's a secret |
| 15:37.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell chops_ about apt-spy |
| 15:37.38 | chops_ | CutMeOwnThroat: Awesome, thanks |
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| 15:38.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | it directly plugs in to your fellow countrymen the nsa and asks them what your closest mirror is... then does a quick check on your medical and credit history and then presents you with the fastest possible mirror ever |
| 15:38.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | ^^ |
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| 15:41.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | chops_, but anyway, just use cdn.debian.net... |
| 15:41.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell chops_ -about cdn.debian.net |
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| 15:43.17 | chops_ | CutMeOwnThroat: Hm, makes sense. In the past I've had odd results using aliases in sources.list (run aptitude update, update based on mirror A, run aptitude upgrade, upgrade attempts to run off mirror B which hasn't updated as far as mirror A has and I get an error). |
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| 15:43.35 | chops_ | CutMeOwnThroat: Is that a non-issue with cdn.debian.net (or has been fixed in the meantime or something)? |
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| 15:47.45 | e^0 | never knew that it's possible to install gcc for arm architecture on amd64 arch ..!! that's wonderful :) |
| 15:48.12 | e^0 | but installing different arch doest cause conflict ? |
| 15:49.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | chops_, hm, I haven't heard that it's a problem... just checked my sources.list, they're using the ftp.de.debian.org (which is another alternative, just use ftp.us.debian.org for the US) |
| 15:49.13 | dondelelcaro | e^0: no; it's pretty standard when you're doing cross-building |
| 15:49.31 | e^0 | dondelelcaro: ok :) |
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| 15:50.15 | chops_ | CutMeOwnThroat: Huh. I used to use http.us.debian.org and used to have occasional problems (maybe because I was on sid and updated frequently, or maybe because there are a lot of mirrors in the US). |
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| 15:50.23 | chops_ | CutMeOwnThroat: Anyway, my problem's solved, thanks for your help. |
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| 16:09.49 | tuor-work | hi after the update of a kernel and the firmware the update-initramfs says some files are missing in /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/. apt-get -t wheezy-backports install firmware-realtek says the package is up to date. |
| 16:10.35 | tuor-work | the wireless card is atheros but the lan ethernet-card is realtek. |
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| 16:15.02 | linagee | when will mysql 5.6 be coming to debian? :( (preferably wheezy) |
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| 16:17.14 | keith4 | linagee: not any time soon |
| 16:17.36 | keith4 | linagee: it's in experimental, currently |
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| 16:17.39 | linagee | keith4: it seems like its been forever since the mysql project has released it |
| 16:17.39 | SynrGy | ,v mysql-server |
| 16:17.40 | judd | Package: mysql-server on i386 -- squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; wheezy: 5.5.35+dfsg-0+wheezy1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.5.37-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.37-0+wheezy1; jessie: 5.5.37-1; sid: 5.5.37-1 |
| 16:18.04 | SynrGy | linagee: wheezy? probably never, but who knows for certain |
| 16:19.13 | SynrGy | ,v mysql-server-5.6 |
| 16:19.14 | judd | Package: mysql-server-5.6 on i386 -- experimental: 5.6.17-1~exp1 |
| 16:19.22 | tuor-work | ah man i know. i need the nonfree in the backports source to. so my problem is solved. |
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| 16:20.12 | keith4 | linagee: once it makes it into jessie, you can start asking "will this make it to wheezy-backports?" ;-) |
| 16:20.13 | linagee | so 5.6 was originally released 3 years ago it seems... wow. |
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| 16:31.05 | shay_shay | linagee: what's wring with 5.5? |
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| 16:31.37 | FaTony | how can I record audio output in Debian? |
| 16:31.46 | FaTony | of applications |
| 16:32.22 | shay_shay | S/wring/wrong/ |
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| 16:33.08 | linagee | shay_shay: http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/whats-new-in-mysql-5.6.html |
| 16:34.31 | shay_shay | linagee: judging by the fact you just posted a change log to me as opposed to your personal reasons, maybe you dont need it you just want it? |
| 16:34.45 | shay_shay | I noticed mariadb only goes up to 5.5 as well. |
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| 16:38.11 | linagee | interesting. it is on experimental... |
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| 16:42.54 | shay_shay | http://news.dice.com/2013/05/22/mariadb-vs-mysql-a-comparison-2/ |
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| 16:48.31 | up365 | "Crossbones" w/JMalkovich as Blackbeard is pretty good at least until "Black Sails" returns. |
| 16:48.37 | e^0 | i don't understand why and when i have to mark the package as automatics ` apt-mark auto package` ? |
| 16:48.50 | up365 | yikes sorry wrong channel |
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| 16:52.03 | icebrain | hi, is there a better place to ask a simple packaging question? I'm trying to use the equivs package, how can I build a meta-package without docs? |
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| 17:00.11 | jawoota | Does anybody still maintain Debian GNU/Hurd ? |
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| 17:05.13 | shay_shay | icebrain: #debian-devel on OFTC |
| 17:05.26 | icebrain | shay_shay: thanks |
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| 17:05.55 | shay_shay | Or #debian-mentors on OFTC |
| 17:05.59 | CissWit | jawoota: https://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2014/07/threads.html there are mails on the mailing list at least :) |
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| 17:08.53 | jawoota | CissWit, yeah those guys are losers |
| 17:09.03 | jawoota | they aren't maintaining GNU/Hurd though |
| 17:09.07 | jawoota | they are hipsters |
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| 17:10.28 | CissWit | jawoota: well, if you came to troll you are in the wrong place |
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| 17:11.11 | boratynskikamil_ | http://wklej.org/id/1413957/ - any idea how to solve this error? |
| 17:12.41 | SerajewelKS | !ops ieqn PM spam |
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| 17:13.33 | Zipf | Hi, during debian 7 install, if i skip !Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" step, and goes straight with "Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM" option, is it possible to encrypt the entire drive later, when install is complete ? |
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| 17:14.18 | SerajewelKS | Zipf: not in-place, i don't think |
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| 17:15.43 | SerajewelKS | Zipf: IIRC you would need another volume at least as big as the used space on the volume you would be encrypting to hold the unencrypted data while you prepare the encrypted volume, and then you'd have to copy everything back over to the encrypted volume |
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| 17:17.15 | frostschutz | Zipf, with lvm you could shrink your LV to minimum size, make a new encrypted LV, rsync over... and once you're happy, delete the shrinked LV and grow the encrypted one |
| 17:17.51 | SerajewelKS | that can work too, as long as you have more free space than used space on the volume |
| 17:18.10 | frostschutz | Zipf, apart from that, in place is possible but dangerous http://bpaste.net/show/DDIqHtnJF253YWViEwmE/ |
| 17:18.21 | jawoota | CissWit, lol, no not a troll |
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| 17:19.12 | Zipf | ok, i'm not looking for dangerous things to do, i'm new to linux world |
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| 17:19.23 | Zipf | it's my fist install in years, thats why ive asked |
| 17:19.24 | CissWit | Zipf: its even harder if you use ssd as you can never be sure that the whole disk is encrypted if you don't encrypt it in the first place |
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| 17:19.45 | Zipf | no, it's running on a sata WD 500gb drive |
| 17:19.55 | Zipf | and has a 3tb seagate for storange |
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| 17:20.02 | frostschutz | Zipf, if you're new to linux I recommend you stick to whatever the installer offers you for now |
| 17:20.16 | Zipf | yes, that's what i'm doing |
| 17:20.45 | Zipf | ive asked about the encrypted due securitry reasons ofc |
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| 17:24.23 | e^0 | i don't understand why and when i have to mark the package as automatics ` apt-mark auto package` ? |
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| 17:27.37 | SerajewelKS | Zipf: of course encrypted storage only protects you from offline attacks -- where an attacker gains physical access to the machine while it is powered off |
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| 17:29.20 | Brigo | e^ if you install a package it is marked 'manual' and if the package get installed by the system the package get marked 'automatic'. Manual pacakge only are uninstalled by you, automatic can be uninstalle with apt-get autoremove |
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| 17:48.46 | e^0 | Brigo: thanks for the explanaiton :) |
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| 17:49.38 | Brigo | e^0, yw :) |
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| 17:56.11 | petern__ | Oh wow, I have screen-burn of the Gnome 3 bar... |
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| 18:09.22 | aramus | Hi I am wondering how i can generate the initrd.img and vmlinuz files for a 32bit kernel when i am using a 64bti system |
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| 18:16.30 | Okee | Can Boilerplate be used in Debian Linux Stable: http://html5boilerplate.com/mobile/ |
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| 18:17.30 | Okee | The only thing I found in the repositories was the compass extension for the h5pb |
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| 18:18.27 | tensorpudding | Okee: What exactly do you need from it? |
| 18:19.00 | Okee | tensorpudding> I would like to install it, so that I can read and review a book on application development. |
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| 18:19.35 | tensorpudding | The most logical way to install it is to just unpack a tarball from their website, or clone their git repo. |
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| 18:20.14 | tensorpudding | You take the copy of that repo and adapt it for the website you're making. |
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| 18:21.44 | Okee | So this will work on LInux? |
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| 18:22.48 | tensorpudding | It's just HTML5, Javascript 5 and CSS 3, that will be usable in any modern browser, and your run-of-the-mill http server like Apache, lighttpd, nginx, etc. etc. will have little trouble hosting it. |
| 18:23.04 | tensorpudding | But that is a deployment matter. |
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| 18:26.16 | Okee | tensorpudding> Untar isn't working for some reason. I can see the individual files when opening the archive, but that isn't what I need to do. |
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| 18:30.45 | Fooman2011 | Hello. I just installed a Wheezy. Now I'm trying to install sudo using "apt-get install sudo", and I get the error E: Sudo package has no version to install... |
| 18:30.51 | Fooman2011 | Hello. I just installed a Wheezy. Now I'm trying to install sudo using "apt-get install sudo", and I get the error E: Sudo package has no version to install... |
| 18:31.13 | Fooman2011 | could you help me please ? |
| 18:31.19 | p14nd4 | Fooman2011: apt-get update first |
| 18:31.26 | Fooman2011 | already tryied |
| 18:31.42 | Brigo | Fooman2011, so you have problem with your source.lst |
| 18:31.45 | p14nd4 | pastebin your sources.list |
| 18:32.04 | Brigo | in paste.debian.net , of course :) |
| 18:32.58 | Fooman2011 | I think that pastebin is not necessary |
| 18:33.06 | babilen | How so? |
| 18:33.09 | Fooman2011 | there are only 2 lines into sources.list |
| 18:33.35 | Fooman2011 | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib |
| 18:33.39 | Fooman2011 | and |
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| 18:33.58 | babilen | Fooman2011: You want something like http://paste.debian.net/109088/ in there. (wheezy-backports is not strictly necessary, but you can just keep it in there) |
| 18:34.01 | Fooman2011 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib |
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| 18:34.14 | babilen | Yeah, that's only the security repo (well, no surprise there) |
| 18:34.17 | p14nd4 | add deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib |
| 18:34.17 | jmcnaught | Okee: not sure what you mean by untar doesn't work. "untar" isn't a command. To extract a .tar.gz file you could use "tar zxvf foobar.tar.gz" For .tar.bz2 files, use a 'j' instead of 'z'. See "man tar" for more details |
| 18:34.21 | LyndsySimon | Does anyone know if there are known issues with connecting to an Airport Extreme router under Debian? |
| 18:34.24 | p14nd4 | Fooman2011: ^^ |
| 18:34.51 | babilen | p14nd4: http.debian.net is a much better mirror (How do you know that a particular person in here is from the US?) |
| 18:35.03 | p14nd4 | babilen: i don't, but it'd still work :p |
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| 18:35.09 | babilen | true :) |
| 18:35.21 | Brigo | LyndsySimon, did you install debian in that router? |
| 18:35.23 | p14nd4 | and i am, so it was easy to copy/paste |
| 18:35.35 | LyndsySimon | Brigo: No, that sounds fun but a bit extreme :) |
| 18:35.44 | Brigo | LyndsySimon, so? |
| 18:35.47 | p14nd4 | babilen: how is http.debian.net "better?" |
| 18:35.54 | babilen | In fact Fooman2011 appears to be from France :) |
| 18:36.04 | LyndsySimon | I'm trying to troubleshoot a coworker's Lenovo laptop running Debian. We have a new Airport Extreme router, and his connection succeeds, but drops within about 10 seconds. |
| 18:36.22 | LyndsySimon | I'm wondering if it might not be a known incompatibility - thought I'd check before digging further. |
| 18:36.26 | babilen | p14nd4: Read http://http.debian.net/ (in short: it selects the "best" mirror automagically for you) |
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| 18:37.00 | babilen | LyndsySimon: Does it only happen with that router? Which chipset is in the laptop? |
| 18:37.04 | p14nd4 | babilen: isn't that what netselect-apt is for? |
| 18:37.58 | babilen | p14nd4: netselect-apt runs a few tests and then hardcodes mirrors. http.debian.net adapts to changing circumstances (and also uses more complete metrics) |
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| 18:38.20 | LyndsySimon | Only with that router, and only when it was swapped to the Airport Extreme. |
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| 18:38.30 | LyndsySimon | is asking about the chipset |
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| 18:38.49 | babilen | LyndsySimon: I can't say that I heard of that particular problem, but it might be caused by it :-/ |
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| 18:39.17 | babilen | Typically intel chipsets perform perfect in Linux (unless they are *really* new) |
| 18:39.19 | LyndsySimon | It's an RTL8189SEvB |
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| 18:39.53 | p14nd4 | babilen: gotcha. just read the stuff on the site. neat. |
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| 18:40.18 | babilen | LyndsySimon: Ah, pity. Do you have the pciid? (lspci -nn|grep -i network) |
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| 18:41.51 | LyndsySimon | 10ec:8172 |
| 18:41.58 | babilen | LyndsySimon: You might want to try a newer kernel (from backports) with corresponding firmware. For that you would use a sources.list such as http://paste.debian.net/109088/, run "apt-get update" and then install kernel and firmware with "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') firmware-realtek" |
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| 18:42.09 | babilen | judd: pciid 10ec:8172 |
| 18:42.12 | judd | [10ec:8172] is 'RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'rtl8192se' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8172 http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 18:43.04 | babilen | But that chipset looks quite well supported. I have to confess that I don't know what it might be that is problematic about the airport express. |
| 18:43.09 | silicone | Hi, I am looking to use freephonebox.net with linphone, but I read on http://danielpocock.com/launching-freephonebox-net that TLS must be enabled. When I try to change to TLS in linphone I get the following message: "Could not start tls transport on port 5060, maybe this port is already used". I asked on #linphone and have received no response. I also checked and the port is not taken.... |
| 18:43.24 | LyndsySimon | OK, thanks :) I'll keep digging I guess. |
| 18:43.49 | Fooman2011 | it's ok now |
| 18:43.51 | babilen | My initial intuition would be that it uses a different wireless standard that simply isn't / wasn't that well supported by the driver/chipset (e.g. previously b now n or so) |
| 18:43.54 | Fooman2011 | thanks for your help |
| 18:43.59 | babilen | Fooman2011: Splendid, enjoy! |
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| 18:44.26 | p14nd4 | i'd be curious how he got a fresh install *without* a proper sources.list |
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| 18:45.23 | babilen | p14nd4: Failure to configure the network during the installation comes to mind |
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| 18:45.45 | babilen | It is a bit curious that the security mirror was in there in that case though |
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| 18:46.14 | p14nd4 | it doesn't give you a choice for selecting a mirror for security, though |
| 18:46.26 | p14nd4 | while it does give you a choice for selecting the normal mirror |
| 18:46.30 | p14nd4 | (at least in netinstall, which i always do) |
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| 19:11.33 | MachinaeWolf | How can I get sysvinit booting again instead of systemd? I'm switching back to sysvinit instead of systemd. |
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| 19:12.48 | babilen | MachinaeWolf: Why? But then: Just install sysvinit-core and you are done |
| 19:13.01 | MachinaeWolf | oh ok |
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| 19:34.08 | meskarune | https://gist.github.com/meskarune/d3b6a0f7d236b8d15341 |
| 19:34.22 | meskarune | php files are downloading instead of executing |
| 19:34.35 | meskarune | I can't figure out what the issue is |
| 19:35.06 | meskarune | I have nginx and php5-fpm installed and running |
| 19:36.59 | xoz | !tell meskarune about php |
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| 19:38.19 | silicone | Hello, would anyone happen to know of any sites like freephonebox.net ? |
| 19:38.37 | MachinaeWolf | well that didn't work at all, I have sysvinit, sysvinit-core, and sysvinit-utils installed and it still won't boot to sysvinit instead of systemd :/ |
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| 19:40.42 | shay_shay | Removed systemd-sysv ? |
| 19:40.43 | silicone | Freephonbox.net is a webrtc site that can contact sip clients. I believe that Debian designed the site... I just can't set my linphone client to TLS and so cannot use it.... |
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| 19:44.24 | MachinaeWolf | shay_shay: there was not systemd-sysv installed, or not currently anyways |
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| 19:45.46 | meskarune | xoz: php is already installed |
| 19:47.08 | kcrizzle | hi all, I've been using Debian for a few years, but just ran into an issue I haven't really dealt with before |
| 19:47.29 | Mousey | have you tried turning it off, and turning it back on? |
| 19:47.41 | kcrizzle | my new laptop has a 512GB SSD with Windows on it, and a 500GB HDD. I want to move Windows to the HDD and install Wheezy on the SSD, but I can't just dd it over |
| 19:48.01 | jordanm | MachinaeWolf: you need to remove init=/lib/systemd/systemd if you set it up to use systemd that way |
| 19:48.30 | MachinaeWolf | I did I put init=/sbin/init and it still boots with systemd :/ |
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| 19:48.49 | jordanm | MachinaeWolf: how are you determining that? |
| 19:49.09 | jordanm | did you run update-grub after you made the change to /etc/default/grub? |
| 19:49.11 | MachinaeWolf | jordanm: I get a message while booting that says systemd-something or other |
| 19:49.17 | MachinaeWolf | jordanm, oh no I didn't do that... |
| 19:49.31 | jordanm | MachinaeWolf: systemd has services that are not the actual init system |
| 19:49.38 | MachinaeWolf | that's probably what I needed to do |
| 19:49.49 | xoz | meskarune: try phpinfo(): http://kb.mediatemple.net/questions/764/How+can+I+create+a+phpinfo.php+page%3F#gs |
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| 19:50.04 | jordanm | MachinaeWolf: did you encounter a problem that is making you switch back? |
| 19:50.56 | MachinaeWolf | not particularly, I just learned of some not so cool things about systemd |
| 19:51.35 | fephisto | Is there something I should do when initiating a ~10 GB transfer over USB? Because the last two times I tried...my system completely crashed. Like--left it running 8-10 hours and all I got was a blinking cursor on a black screen crash. |
| 19:51.38 | jordanm | MachinaeWolf: such as? |
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| 19:52.07 | MachinaeWolf | http://boycottsystemd.org/ |
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| 19:53.33 | yedso | hello, I am using the internet connection of an acquaintance who friendlily allows me to use it. At the moment he is holding an important business conference via TeamSpeak. How can I find out how far I can go with doanloading without causing him trouble? He has no clue about computers so I don't want to ask him how fast his connection is and I do not want to disturb his conference. Any idea? |
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| 19:53.42 | babilen | Hmm, that might have been less spammy than I expected it to be |
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| 19:54.24 | jordanm | babilen: yeah, i don't think that was needed, since i asked him what he learned. it's a FUD article... but not a ban worthy offense to post as an answer to my question |
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| 19:55.58 | fephisto | yedso: internet speed test website? |
| 19:57.14 | jordanm | MachinaeWolf: i see, philosophical, not technical |
| 19:57.14 | MachinaeWolf | alright time to test this again |
| 19:57.18 | MachinaeWolf | yes |
| 19:57.28 | MachinaeWolf | anyways reboot time |
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| 20:03.39 | MachinaeWolf | thanks jordanm update-grub did the trick |
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| 20:08.14 | jordanm | MachinaeWolf: np |
| 20:09.00 | MachinaeWolf | I'll have to remember that next time I do something around in grub |
| 20:09.15 | MachinaeWolf | alright game time, bye |
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| 20:24.06 | meskarune | xoz: I have wordpress installed, I can get to the wp-admin page just fine, but the base site address (in this case an ip address) downloads the php file instead of running it |
| 20:24.28 | GNU\colo1sus | trying to install Debian 7.5 on my Zotac ZBOX CI320 (http://www.zotac.com/products/mini-pcs/zbox-c-series/product/c-series/detail/zbox-ci320-nano-1.html) in UEFI mode, the keyboard is dead once d-i is loaded and asks the very first question. any ideas how to debug what's going on? |
| 20:24.42 | meskarune | http://162.243.194.184/wp-login.php |
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| 20:25.00 | meskarune | that works, but http://162.243.194.184/ |
| 20:25.03 | meskarune | downloads the php file |
| 20:25.20 | abrotman | GNU\colo1sus: see if the bios has some sort of legacy mode for input devices |
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| 20:25.30 | GNU\colo1sus | abrotman, it has, and they are enabled |
| 20:25.45 | abrotman | have you tried *disabling*? :) |
| 20:25.51 | GNU\colo1sus | not yet, no :) |
| 20:26.08 | GNU\colo1sus | (the installer responds if I boot in "legacy only" mode, btw) |
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| 20:26.50 | abrotman | remember, you only need this to work for the install .. so muck with it as needed .. reset the bios later |
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| 20:29.03 | fephisto | Well, to answer my question from earlier, apparently fuseblk requires a different mounting package? |
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| 20:34.52 | AndrejsZ | meskarune: both urls seem to work fine for me. Have you fixed the issue? |
| 20:38.05 | stevelitt | How do I cat a file without including its final newline? |
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| 20:40.16 | p14nd4 | cat $file | head -n $((`wc -l $file` - 1)) ? |
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| 20:40.39 | p14nd4 | though there's probably a better way |
| 20:40.57 | AndrejsZ | head -c -1 -q file |
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| 20:41.19 | stevelitt | Solved: cat junk.jnk | tr -d "\n" |
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| 20:41.46 | GNU\colo1sus | that deletes all newlines. |
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| 20:41.51 | p14nd4 | AndrejsZ's solution is right |
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| 20:44.04 | meskarune | AndrejsZ: I think it might be chrome doing soemthing :/ |
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| 20:46.30 | zleslie | Howdy, what do folks use for deploying a debian repo? Surely its not actually reprepro |
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| 20:51.20 | babilen | zleslie: Why not? |
| 20:51.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell zleslie -about own repo |
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| 20:53.20 | Psi-Jack | Why does nginx have to be such a PITA? heh |
| 20:53.37 | AndrejsZ | meskarune: did you see something different in nginx logs? |
| 20:55.51 | GNU\colossus | zleslie, we actually do. |
| 20:55.55 | GNU\colossus | (at work) |
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| 20:56.14 | GNU\colossus | though we're looking to rebuild our internal repository from scratch, and will certainly evaluate alternatives |
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| 21:04.43 | GNU\colossus | (how) can I sign an upstream Debian kernel image with my own Secure Boot key to have my machine (with Secure Boot support, obv.) refuse non-signed kernel images? |
| 21:04.57 | stevelitt | GNU\colossus, yeah, it was a one line file, but the general case for any text file not containing vertical tabs would be cat /etc/fstab | tr "\n" "\v" | sed -e "s/\v$//" | sed -e "s/\v/\n/g" |
| 21:05.16 | stevelitt | Almost too ugly to do in bash, isn't it? |
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| 21:06.38 | GNU\colossus | it's a crappy (non-)solution. use `head`, as mentioned above |
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| 21:08.10 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. I have a stack of 3.5" disks to check for content. The last time I put a 3.5" disk in my computer, it wouldn't read it. How do I get my computer to read the 3.5" disks and is there a fast way to check them? |
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| 21:08.31 | p14nd4 | Lady_Aleena: floppy disks? |
| 21:08.46 | Lady_Aleena | p14nd4, yes. |
| 21:09.16 | p14nd4 | Lady_Aleena: when i had that situation, i just did a ddrescue (or dd_rescue? dd-rescue? i forget which, and annoyingly there are actually two) of all of them to images, and worked on the disk images later |
| 21:09.31 | Lady_Aleena | Some of the disks may be unformatted. |
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| 21:10.49 | p14nd4 | photorec can try to recover stuff from the raw disk or image |
| 21:10.52 | Lady_Aleena | So no way to insert them, check for content really quick, then remove it; wash, rinse, repeat? |
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| 21:11.25 | p14nd4 | most desktop environments / file managers will probably have some provision to automount a floppy disk on access |
| 21:11.31 | p14nd4 | if you're using a gui |
| 21:11.41 | Lady_Aleena | p14nd4, I have KDE. |
| 21:12.15 | p14nd4 | otherwise you presumably try to mount /dev/fd0 /some/path |
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| 21:12.43 | p14nd4 | and run tail -f /var/log/syslog or dmesg in another shell that you can monitor for mount errors |
| 21:13.33 | GNU\colossus | I don't think anything like udisks et al. is polling /dev/fd* for anything these days |
| 21:13.39 | p14nd4 | i don't specifically know how kde handles floppy disks, but like i said, i'd assume it has a provision to attempt to mount the disk when you access it through the gui file manager |
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| 21:13.51 | GNU\colossus | so you'll probably have to act manually upon inserting a floppy disk |
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| 21:14.25 | p14nd4 | right. you have to either click on the drive and hope your file manager / desktop environment will try to mount it, or run a mount command |
| 21:14.51 | Lady_Aleena | So, I should just get a really strong magnet and demagnetize the disks instead of looking at them. |
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| 21:15.05 | p14nd4 | Lady_Aleena: depends if you're nostalgic |
| 21:15.20 | p14nd4 | i found a few fun things when i looked back through my old floppy disks |
| 21:15.28 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: have you tried inserting a disk? Does anything happen? You should still be able to mount them with a command even if it doesn't happen automatically |
| 21:15.49 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I haven't begun yet. |
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| 21:16.27 | p14nd4 | i don't believe there's a standard "insertion" event/trigger in floppy drives, so the OS has no way to know a disk is present until you try to access/mount it |
| 21:16.28 | jerng | Hi all! I'm using rsync for backup, but my external disk run out of memory. I'd like to delete old backups (weekly.2, weekly3, monthly.2,...). How to do this? rm -rf <dir> does not work, it hangs after entering the command (as root). Or is just my filesystem broken? Thx! |
| 21:16.34 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: inserting a disk would be my step #1 before asking :P |
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| 21:17.09 | jmcnaught | oh yeah, p14nd4 is right. at the very least it'll probably be necessary to click on the floppy drive in a file manager |
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| 21:17.39 | p14nd4 | if rm -rf <dir> (as root) is hanging (bearing in mind that it might take a long time without any output), then your filesystem is messed up |
| 21:18.01 | p14nd4 | check /var/log/syslog or dmesg for errors |
| 21:18.35 | p14nd4 | that said, apparently rsync --delete /dev/null /target/to/delete is actually faster than rm -rf (so i've read once) |
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| 21:18.45 | p14nd4 | or something like that |
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| 21:19.06 | p14nd4 | or maybe it's rsync --delete /some/empty/path /target/to/delete ? |
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| 21:22.02 | Gnomethrower | Having issues installing build-essential on Debian 7: http://privatepaste.com/5397c19800 |
| 21:22.10 | Gnomethrower | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 21:22.22 | Gnomethrower | seeing it across 3 different Debian 7 servers |
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| 21:31.36 | jerng | p14nd4: it just takes a loooong time, problem solved. Thanks! |
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| 21:32.30 | p14nd4 | jerng: yup. google something like: 'rsync faster than rm' if you're curious about a faster alternative in the future |
| 21:32.40 | p14nd4 | jerng: glad to hear it wasn't corruption, though! |
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| 21:33.14 | jerng | yep :) |
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| 21:35.08 | Geust7494 | helo |
| 21:35.15 | Geust7494 | I am trying to download debian jessie 8 |
| 21:35.46 | Geust7494 | for unetbootin bootable |
| 21:35.51 | Geust7494 | can anyone help :) |
| 21:36.00 | comradekingu | Geust7494: what seems to be the problem? |
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| 21:36.20 | Geust7494 | https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 21:36.35 | Geust7494 | which one i need to download comradekingu |
| 21:37.08 | jmcnaught | Geust7494: Debian Jessie is not finished yet, it's the testing release. Why not use the current stable release Wheezy (7.5). Also unetbootin has a history of breaking debian isos. |
| 21:37.23 | Geust7494 | okay |
| 21:37.39 | Geust7494 | oh thats why i get no installable kernel found? |
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| 21:38.46 | KaaK | Geust7494, it has been my experiance that you can directly write the debian netboot isos to usb drives for installation. I.E no unetbootin required |
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| 21:39.34 | Geust7494 | do u mean just drag the iso to to usb? |
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| 21:39.41 | comradekingu | Geust7494: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_alpha_1/amd64/iso-cd/ and dd |
| 21:39.44 | mtn | Guest11369: and besides, don't use unetbootin ;) |
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| 21:40.36 | jmcnaught | Geust7494: preparing USB installation media is also covered in the Installation Manual https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual which you really should read. Also if you're a beginner, do yourself a favour and start with Wheezy. Jessie is not finished and prone to break from time to time. |
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| 21:40.57 | comradekingu | But best to go with 7.5 if you want things to work more reliably |
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| 21:44.12 | Geust7494 | what are the difference between jessie and wheezy? |
| 21:44.16 | Geust7494 | differences? |
| 21:44.36 | Gnomethrower | Geust7494: well, wheezy is stable for one thing |
| 21:44.39 | cra1g321 | wheezy is the "stable" release, jessie is the "testing" release |
| 21:44.40 | Neobenedict | jessie is testing |
| 21:44.45 | Neobenedict | wheezy is stable |
| 21:44.47 | Geust7494 | in features? |
| 21:44.48 | cra1g321 | oops jessie isnt a release |
| 21:44.52 | Geust7494 | I mean features |
| 21:44.59 | Gnomethrower | okay |
| 21:45.05 | Gnomethrower | features: wheezy won't crash as often |
| 21:45.15 | Gnomethrower | it also won't make you swear as often |
| 21:45.26 | Neobenedict | jessie will have later versions of some applications... but also the packages will be less stable as a whole |
| 21:45.28 | Geust7494 | did anyone try jessie can u explain me how crashy it is |
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| 21:46.08 | cra1g321 | depends on what software you want to use and hardware you have |
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| 21:46.13 | mtn | Geust7494: do yourself a favor and start with wheezy. |
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| 21:46.42 | Geust7494 | i have intel processor and a ati card |
| 21:47.08 | cra1g321 | unless you would know how to recover when something breaks and troubleshoot stuff, i suggest just using Wheezy |
| 21:47.31 | jmcnaught | Geust7494: Jessie will be the stable release after Wheezy, but it's probably about a year away from being completed. "stable" in this context means not changing. Wheezy will keep working reliably the same way every day even after updates. Jessie is still in flux, and updates might break things, remove packages, introduce bugs. If you want Jessie because of the newer versions of packages, you should checking wheezy-backports |
| 21:47.32 | Neobenedict | use wheezy and compile packages that are a later version than on the repo if you need them |
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| 21:47.47 | Geust7494 | but you can always try it if it crash much or breaks you can install wheezy right? |
| 21:47.52 | Neobenedict | um |
| 21:47.58 | Neobenedict | it doesn't work like that |
| 21:47.59 | cra1g321 | he doesnt know the difference between wheezy and jessie, yet you want him to compile packages ? lol |
| 21:48.06 | Neobenedict | meh |
| 21:48.20 | Neobenedict | you make a point cra1g321 ;) |
| 21:48.21 | Geust7494 | i know how to compile packages :) |
| 21:48.37 | Geust7494 | ./configure cmake etc |
| 21:49.10 | cra1g321 | i would search on https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages for the software you want to use, and just check that the packages arent too old for you |
| 21:49.11 | Geust7494 | Neobenedict how does it then? |
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| 21:49.49 | cra1g321 | if they are too old, you could use backports or attempt to survive with jessie |
| 21:49.56 | jmcnaught | Geust7494: why are you so intent on using Jessie despite the advice you're getting not to? |
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| 21:50.19 | Geust7494 | ok but i think alot of people that use debian already tried jessie so u can tell whetever is crashy or not |
| 21:50.32 | Geust7494 | i like newest versions always |
| 21:50.50 | cra1g321 | then i dont think debian is for you |
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| 21:51.11 | Geust7494 | i know debian is old but with new i mean new features |
| 21:51.13 | Neobenedict | siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhs |
| 21:51.34 | cra1g321 | new features ? like what ? |
| 21:51.35 | mtn | funny funny |
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| 21:51.49 | Neobenedict | is dstat's dsk/total accurate |
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| 21:52.01 | Neobenedict | i get stupidly high values sometimes that these disks wouldn't be able to handle for write |
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| 21:52.05 | Geust7494 | craig321 there are some things changed right? |
| 21:52.17 | Geust7494 | it isn't just reupload old one and make it higher number |
| 21:52.20 | jmcnaught | Geust7494: well nobody's going to stop you from installing Jessie and trying it out, but if you need support with the testing release expect a lot of "RTFM" type responses |
| 21:52.54 | Geust7494 | k i get it |
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| 21:54.18 | Geust7494 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM |
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| 21:54.46 | Geust7494 | Guys thanks for help but what environment u recomend me? |
| 21:55.04 | Geust7494 | There are several jessie iso's with different environments iso |
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| 21:55.58 | jhutchins | Guest49017: Debian Stable. You can live without the latest bit of bling, and you can rely on the system to get real work done. It will give you a chance to look at how it works and learn to work on it without a lot of hair-pulling. |
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| 21:56.28 | jhutchins | Guest79174: Debian Stable. You can live without the latest bit of bling, and you can rely on the system to get real work done. It will give you a chance to look at how it works and learn to work on it without a lot of hair-pulling. |
| 21:57.01 | jhutchins | C'mon, guys, set a nic. |
| 21:59.35 | Nik05 | claps for jhutchins |
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| 22:01.43 | jhutchins | Geust7494: The reason there are so many isos is because there are over 37500 packages available in Debian, plus internationalization and multiple architectures. |
| 22:02.08 | jhutchins | Geust7494: The first one is all you need to get started. |
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| 22:02.39 | Geust7494 | can i install 2 iso's in one cd? |
| 22:02.50 | Geust7494 | or multiple i mean |
| 22:02.55 | Geust7494 | I want them all |
| 22:03.14 | jhutchins | Geust7494: No, you don't. |
| 22:03.34 | babilen | Guest65604: You can download everything from the internet (you *do* have a working internet connection, don't you?) |
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| 22:03.45 | jhutchins | Geust7494: You want the first one or the netinstall and a good internet connection. |
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| 22:04.13 | jhutchins | babilen: 15 Guests and he's not even one of them. |
| 22:05.06 | babilen | heh |
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| 22:18.39 | Lis | hello everyone. how to make nautilus set the cwd to the current dir for executing files? where are nautilus execution options stored? |
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| 22:31.27 | fcp13 | hello i'm using jessie with kde and dont found the Desktop Search |
| 22:31.30 | fcp13 | anyone can help? |
| 22:31.32 | fcp13 | regards! |
| 22:31.46 | fcp13 | http://ctrlv.in/356185 |
| 22:31.55 | fcp13 | only that |
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| 22:37.29 | Tarap | I want to install the Ubuntu Canonical Partner Repositories |
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| 22:37.42 | capin | hello :) |
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| 22:38.12 | rndnick282 | !ubuntu |
| 22:38.12 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 22:38.54 | raspberrypifan | so debian has better support? |
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| 22:39.05 | newbie|2 | ubuntu or debian? |
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| 22:39.25 | newbie|2 | i want to install debian |
| 22:39.25 | capin | anyone know why i wouldn't be able to access my inbox from my iphone? im using postfix w/ dovecot on a debian server |
| 22:39.28 | Tarap | lol on #Ubintu then redirected me her cause I'm on debian :) |
| 22:39.34 | Tarap | Ubuntu* |
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| 22:41.07 | newbie|2 | hey |
| 22:41.18 | newbie|2 | does debian have live OS like ubuntu? |
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| 22:42.02 | rndnick282 | !debian-live |
| 22:42.02 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 22:42.51 | fcp13 | !baloo |
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| 22:47.27 | Tarap | (sorry but a nerd off topic question : why for a url ping foobar.url answers and nor http://foobar.url nor ftp://foobar.url does answer ?) |
| 22:47.41 | p14nd4 | capin: what sort of error / behavior are you getting? |
| 22:47.47 | p14nd4 | capin: what do the logs say? |
| 22:47.53 | p14nd4 | capin: what are your settings? |
| 22:47.56 | p14nd4 | capin: what app are you using? |
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| 22:48.04 | p14nd4 | capin: you didn't really provide much information to go on |
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| 22:49.04 | rndnick282 | Tarap: read wikipedia articles: icmp, http, ftp |
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| 22:49.36 | mutante | Tarap: you'll have to ask the admin who runs foobar.url |
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| 22:49.47 | Tarap | tx. sry for offtopic |
| 22:50.14 | capin | p14nd4: im using the default mail app on the iphone , and server side im usig postfix w/ dovecot, i can send emails from the iphone but i can't see the messages in the inbox |
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| 22:51.06 | capin | i can see the messages in the inbox when i ssh into the box and run mutt |
| 22:51.28 | capin | and i can send and receive email messages using mutt when logged into the box. |
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| 22:52.03 | p14nd4 | doesn't mutt just use the user mail spool on disk, not imap? |
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| 22:52.20 | p14nd4 | can you connect a desktop imap client (like thunderbird)? |
| 22:52.51 | p14nd4 | capin: does the server show imap login from the phone? |
| 22:53.03 | p14nd4 | capin: does your phone give you an error message, or just doesn't show any message in the inbox? |
| 22:53.07 | nkuttler | p14nd4: mutt can do imap |
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| 22:53.22 | p14nd4 | nkuttler: but by default doesn't it just local? |
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| 22:53.32 | nkuttler | p14nd4: i think so, yes |
| 22:53.35 | capin | p14nd4: im using pop3, and the phone isn't giving any error messages |
| 22:53.54 | p14nd4 | ugh, why would you use pop3? ;_; |
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| 22:54.00 | rndnick282 | error messages are just confusing ;-) |
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| 22:54.21 | nkuttler | capin: yeah, you want to use imap |
| 22:54.27 | p14nd4 | are you sure there *are* messages in your inbox, and you didn't delete them from another pop3 client? |
| 22:54.46 | capin | yeah im sure |
| 22:55.05 | capin | when i check the inbox with mutt it shows the messages |
| 22:55.13 | p14nd4 | how is mutt configured? |
| 22:55.28 | p14nd4 | local mailbox/dir, or imap, or pop3, or what? |
| 22:55.54 | p14nd4 | ...because you are aware that most pop3 clients will delete the messages from the server when they retrieve them, right? |
| 22:56.00 | p14nd4 | (by default, anyway) |
| 22:56.29 | p14nd4 | (are you really, really, really sure that you want pop3 instead of imap?) |
| 22:56.44 | p14nd4 | (really?) |
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| 22:56.55 | rndnick282 | are you sure you want to read mails using an iphone? |
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| 22:57.26 | capin | rndnick282: yes |
| 22:57.33 | capin | p14nd4: http://chrisrjones.com/dovecot.conf |
| 22:58.01 | p14nd4 | how is mutt configured? |
| 22:58.26 | capin | not sure i just installed it |
| 22:58.37 | capin | not running a .muttrc file |
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| 23:00.58 | p14nd4 | ok, then like i guessed earlier, it's just reading your system-local mail spool from disk, not going through dovecot at all |
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| 23:02.07 | capin | p14nd4: mail_location = maildir:/var/email/%d/%n/Maildir |
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| 23:03.03 | p14nd4 | ok, well, i'm fairly confident that mutt doesn't know to look there |
| 23:03.14 | Unagilefart | does anyone know how to install a wireless network driver using only bash? |
| 23:03.25 | p14nd4 | so what you see in mutt is a different directory than what dovecot points to |
| 23:03.47 | p14nd4 | capin: where is postfix configured to deliver mail? |
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| 23:04.05 | capin | your right (-.-) mutt is using ~/Maildir :/ |
| 23:04.10 | p14nd4 | also, what happens if you (sudo) ls -la /var/email/%d/%n/Maildir |
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| 23:04.22 | MORTYR | hi |
| 23:04.26 | MORTYR | as I can do to give a voice to all "on join" event except some nicks? |
| 23:05.13 | capin | p14nd4: postfix configured to deliver mail? |
| 23:05.26 | capin | is that a setting in the main.cf? |
| 23:06.09 | p14nd4 | capin: yes, or some subordinate included file |
| 23:06.29 | p14nd4 | likely something like mailbox_base and virtual_mailbox_maps |
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| 23:06.48 | p14nd4 | er, virtual_mailbox_base |
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| 23:07.45 | p14nd4 | postfix handles smtp (both from your iphone to deliver to other servers on the internet, and from other mail servers on the internet trying to deliver to you) |
| 23:07.59 | p14nd4 | dovecot handles pop3/imap for you to retrieve mail from your inbox |
| 23:08.06 | capin | p14nd4: http://chrisrjones.com/main.cf |
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| 23:09.24 | p14nd4 | capin: and /etc/postfix/vmail_mailbox ? |
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| 23:10.07 | dob1 | hi, i have an ntfs partition, sda1 if i "dd" this partition, can i mount the file that i have created in another pc? |
| 23:10.23 | dob1 | does it work? |
| 23:10.46 | Brigo | dob1, yes it works |
| 23:10.57 | capin | p14nd4: https://ghostbin.com/paste/bakdr |
| 23:10.58 | p14nd4 | dob1: you want to dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/some/file/on/another/parition ? |
| 23:11.21 | p14nd4 | dob1: if so, yes, that should work (mount -o loop) |
| 23:11.25 | dob1 | p14nd4, dd if=/dev/sda1 of=somefile then i copy the file to another pc and i mount it |
| 23:11.25 | coventry | I have a package install which is hanging during update-initramfs. I would like to simply remove the package and the modules update-initramfs is hanging on, but apt-get remove is trying to finish the install by re-running update-initramfs. What are my options? |
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| 23:11.47 | DHowett | capin: you! |
| 23:11.53 | coventry | (This on an ubuntu 12.04 system, BTW, but I figure it's a general apt question.) |
| 23:12.02 | DHowett | capin: (I am always surprised to see ghostbin turn up in places I hang out :P) |
| 23:12.08 | Brigo | coventry, no it does not |
| 23:12.24 | coventry | Brigo: does not what? |
| 23:12.37 | Brigo | !tell coventry about ubuntu |
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| 23:13.19 | dob1 | p14nd4, can i write too on the mounted partition ? |
| 23:13.25 | dob1 | (file not partition) |
| 23:13.38 | p14nd4 | capin: seems probably generally correct. what happens if you (sudo) ls -la /var/email/chrisrjones.com/foo/Maildir |
| 23:13.59 | dob1 | or if there is another way to do this |
| 23:14.07 | Brigo | dob1, do you wnat the partition containts itself? |
| 23:14.22 | p14nd4 | dob1: i'm not quite sure what you mean. you can't dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/some/path/thats/mounted/on/sda1 |
| 23:14.38 | p14nd4 | dob1: or on the other computer do you want to write to the mounted file? |
| 23:14.46 | dob1 | p14nd4, yes |
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| 23:15.00 | capin | p14nd4: https://ghostbin.com/paste/epfy7 |
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| 23:15.24 | dob1 | p14nd4, the last one you said |
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| 23:16.13 | p14nd4 | dob1: i *think* so, but i'm not 100% sure about it |
| 23:16.15 | p14nd4 | sorry |
| 23:16.50 | dob1 | to be clear, what i want is a copy of that partition because i am going to dismiss the pc that use it, maybe this is not the right way to do this |
| 23:17.11 | p14nd4 | dob1: i might recommend just rsyncing the contents of that partition to the new computer |
| 23:17.12 | Brigo | dob1, the image file of the partition will be of the same size |
| 23:17.17 | dob1 | i was thinking about using dd for this as i said, but i don't know if i am right |
| 23:18.02 | Brigo | dob1, you are right in use dd, but save the file OUT of the partition copied. |
| 23:18.07 | p14nd4 | dob1: i.e. replicate the *files* instead of the contents of every block on the partition |
| 23:18.56 | dob1 | Brigo, i know this, but maybe it's more simple to rsync just the files as p14nd4 suggests |
| 23:19.08 | p14nd4 | e.g. mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/something && rsync -avhPHz /mnt/something newcomputer:~/oldComputer-sda1 |
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| 23:20.11 | dob1 | thanks for the advice, i will use this way :) |
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| 23:20.21 | capin | p14nd4: any suggestions? |
| 23:20.24 | Brigo | both systems could be better or worse, depending on the finally you want ot achieve |
| 23:20.53 | Brigo | s/ot/to |
| 23:20.55 | p14nd4 | capin: well, it looks like some mail has probably been delivered at some point, and someone has probably logged in successfully to the mailbox at some point (via pop3 or imap), based on the directories that exist |
| 23:22.08 | p14nd4 | capin: i'd try to do this with imap on thunderbird before moving on to the iphone. with the desktop client you can enable some logging on the client, too (and imap is going to behave more rationally than pop3, imo) |
| 23:22.36 | p14nd4 | capin: are there files (message) in the new and/or cur directories? |
| 23:23.17 | p14nd4 | pop3 is potentially only going to show you things in new, where imap will show you a union of new and cur, i believe |
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| 23:24.07 | capin | p14nd4: no files in cur or new |
| 23:24.28 | p14nd4 | capin: well, then your iphone is correctly showing you the contents of your inbox :) |
| 23:24.42 | p14nd4 | capin: have you tried sending mail to that address? :p |
| 23:24.47 | p14nd4 | (from gmail or hotmail or whatever) |
| 23:25.31 | capin | p14nd4: yes i have sent email to the address, but it's not showing up in the inbox on the iphone, but shows up in mutt |
| 23:25.52 | p14nd4 | capin: have you reloaded/restarted postfix since applying the changes to main.cf? |
| 23:26.45 | capin | p14nd4: what changes should i have made to the main.cf? |
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| 23:27.14 | p14nd4 | none (that i know of off the top of my head) since the version you linked to me here ... but sine making *those* changes |
| 23:27.17 | p14nd4 | since* |
| 23:27.35 | capin | yeah i start / stop again to make sure |
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| 23:31.10 | p14nd4 | because it seems like postfix is [still] delivering mail to ~/Maildir instead of virtual_mailbox_base=/var/email and virtual_mailbox_maps=hash:/etc/postfix/vmail_mailbox |
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| 23:31.51 | p14nd4 | if messages coming from gmail/hotmail/wherever are ending up in ~/Maildir (mutt) instead of /var/email/<yourdomain>/<user>/new |
| 23:32.02 | p14nd4 | capin: ^^ |
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| 23:32.33 | capin | so i just setup the foo@chrisrjones.com using the Mail.app with imap and authentication seems to be working :/ yeah what you said |
| 23:32.58 | p14nd4 | so all fixed now? |
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| 23:33.06 | capin | no :/ |
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| 23:33.16 | capin | but i think were close |
| 23:33.17 | p14nd4 | oh, still delivering to ~/Maildir |
| 23:33.20 | capin | yeah |
| 23:33.25 | lool_ | Hi |
| 23:33.34 | capin | could procmail be fing things up? |
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| 23:35.31 | p14nd4 | capin: maybe? anything in /var/log/mail.* of note since the last postfix stop/start? |
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| 23:36.31 | p14nd4 | so you have a system user 'foo' with a home directory and everything? |
| 23:36.46 | capin | yes |
| 23:37.00 | p14nd4 | huh. weird. |
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| 23:38.48 | p14nd4 | does /etc/postfix/vmail_domains look right? |
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| 23:41.19 | p14nd4 | also, just to rule out some real insanity, can you replace all your parameter=value with parameter = value? (i.e. add a space on either side of the equal sign) and then restart postfix and send another email to foo@... |
| 23:42.04 | capin | yeah give me a sec and ill make those changes |
| 23:42.13 | p14nd4 | i really doubt that matters, but it's easy enough to check, and it's not impossible that it *does* matter :/ |
| 23:43.17 | p14nd4 | also, sorry, but i'm going to have to run in ~10 minutes. wife is already going to be pissed i'm going to be home this late |
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| 23:44.23 | dragon_ | What is the recommendation by Debian teem for snmt and imap on a default e-mail server installation? |
| 23:44.36 | dragon_ | does someone know it? |
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| 23:45.24 | dragon_ | ssl, lts, sasl? |
| 23:45.44 | capin | dragon_: lol |
| 23:45.56 | capin | p14nd4: made the necessary changes |
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| 23:48.27 | tarkaram | Hello all, I am trying to build a live tile (640x480) which contains live information ( info such as temperature inside and outside the house, alarm status etc.). The idea is to create a cron job that updates this live file and post it on my dropbox. I am trying to figure out an easy way to implement this idea. Would appreciate any ideas.. |
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| 23:48.39 | p14nd4 | capin: any difference? |
| 23:48.43 | dragon_ | hi capin, i am configuring exim4+dovecot (imap),+ smtp+procmail for a server and i have not done it for long time! |
| 23:48.56 | capin | p14nd4: let me test |
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| 23:49.13 | capin | well mutt is still thinking the inbox is ~/Maildir :/ |
| 23:49.40 | p14nd4 | capin: that part will never change until you reconfigure mutt; it doesn't know how postifx or dovecot are configured |
| 23:49.51 | capin | okay |
| 23:50.00 | p14nd4 | but if message are being delivered to ~/Maildir, that's more problematic |
| 23:50.25 | capin | yes that's whats happening :/ |
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| 23:51.29 | capin | well now im not getting any mail :/ |
| 23:51.44 | p14nd4 | hooray, progress! |
| 23:51.55 | p14nd4 | what's /var/log/mail* say? |
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| 23:54.02 | p14nd4 | or possibly syslog |
| 23:54.15 | capin | not much in mail.err |
| 23:54.36 | capin | looking at mail.log now |
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| 23:55.46 | capin | anything i should look for? |
| 23:56.01 | p14nd4 | really sorry, but i've gotta run :(. if that doesn't turn anything up, try bumping up logging verbosity and send another email to yourself |
| 23:56.08 | p14nd4 | errors? |
| 23:56.11 | p14nd4 | warnings? |
| 23:56.23 | p14nd4 | something about delivery of that message you just sent |
| 23:56.27 | p14nd4 | good luck |
| 23:56.46 | capin | okay man thanks for the help :D made some progress :) |
| 23:56.48 | p14nd4 | #postfix might also be able to help |
| 23:56.56 | capin | have a good one :) |
| 23:57.04 | capin | yeah i just jumped in there |
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