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| 00:25.46 | Okee | Anyone know whether or not php5 is actually php5.1 in the repository? |
| 00:27.44 | jmcnaught | ,v php5 |
| 00:27.45 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze20; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u9; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u11; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u12; jessie: 5.6.0~rc2+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.0~rc2+dfsg-1; sid: |
| 00:27.46 | judd | 5.6.0~rc2+dfsg-2 |
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| 00:28.37 | jmcnaught | Okee: the version of PHP5 in Wheezy is 5.4.4. You can check with commands like "apt-cache policy php5" or use https://packages.debian.org/ |
| 00:29.06 | Okee | jmc> Ok, I have 5.4.4 Thanks. |
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| 00:32.18 | Mousey | goodbye (for now) internets! |
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| 00:39.04 | DHowett | I would somewhat expect that at 300 pdiffs it would be more economical to download the Packages file anew. |
| 00:39.14 | DHowett | but nope, apt just keeps on chugging through them |
| 00:39.33 | somiaj | sounds like its been a while since you have updated on testing/unstable. (: |
| 00:39.41 | DHowett | indeed! |
| 00:39.48 | somiaj | though would be nice if there was an option to not use pdiffs, maybe there is, let me check the man page |
| 00:39.51 | DHowett | I'm going to have a sadbox when I am through with this, I can just tell |
| 00:39.58 | DHowett | (sorry sadbox, I had to) |
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| 00:42.37 | somiaj | here it is, apt-get update -o Acquire::PDiffs=false |
| 00:42.45 | somiaj | guess you could make it an option too if you don't want to use them |
| 00:42.50 | DHowett | somiaj: outstanding. thank you! |
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| 01:02.10 | iio7 | I have an external USB 3 drive. When I mount and transfer a large MKV file it starts at 184MB/s then it slows down to 7MB/s and the entire memory gets filled up. |
| 01:02.42 | iio7 | In the end it is extremely slow and all the memory is filled. I have 8GB ram on the box. |
| 01:03.19 | iio7 | Is there a way to deal with this. The drive is EXT4 formatted. |
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| 01:09.05 | iio7 | And why the **** is all the memory getting consumed? |
| 01:10.10 | SirLagz | iio7: how do you know the memory is getting consumed ? Are you looking with top ? free ? |
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| 01:10.29 | iio7 | Siebjee, top |
| 01:10.42 | iio7 | Sorry, SirLagz, with top |
| 01:11.12 | SirLagz | iio7: top will not show the actual "free" RAM. |
| 01:11.24 | SirLagz | iio7: are you aware of how Linux uses RAM ? |
| 01:11.58 | iio7 | SirLagz, I have checked. Proc too show the memory is gone. |
| 01:12.07 | SirLagz | iio7: check with free instead |
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| 01:12.23 | iio7 | I did that too, its the same. |
| 01:12.23 | dvs | "Unused RAM is wasted RAM" |
| 01:12.36 | SirLagz | iio7: on free, the line that says "-/+ buffers/cache: 1653 2178" the 2nd number is how much RAM you have "free" |
| 01:13.06 | iio7 | SirLagz, I know how to check it. It has to be some freaking cache stuff. |
| 01:13.27 | SirLagz | iio7: ok, so you ARE aware of how Linux uses RAM... which is why I asked :P |
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| 01:13.41 | SirLagz | iio7: have you tried copying to a different drive ? |
| 01:14.15 | some-cowbell | why would copying to a diff drive use ram any differently? |
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| 01:21.24 | iio7 | It's the same problem using another disk. Memory gets consumed totally. |
| 01:21.48 | iio7 | As far as I can tell there is no way to limit cache on mount. |
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| 01:25.59 | asterismo | hi people |
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| 01:26.02 | asterismo | i have ann issue |
| 01:26.04 | asterismo | [mi] EQ overflowing. Additional events will be discarded until existing events are processed. |
| 01:26.26 | asterismo | and some backtrace info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old |
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| 02:11.17 | pwhs | The Netinstall on debian.org for the 64 bit is not working |
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| 02:11.18 | dvs | ??? |
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| 02:11.18 | pwhs | I am trying to get the iso burned so I can boot it off the cd disk |
| 02:11.19 | pwhs | https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#netboot |
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| 02:11.20 | pwhs | Should I use the mini.iso? |
| 02:11.42 | dvs | pwhs: https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
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| 02:13.34 | pwhs | This should work debian-7.5.0-ia64-netinst.iso |
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| 02:13.39 | dvs | no |
| 02:13.55 | dvs | debian-7.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 02:15.19 | pwhs | Ty and I am glade that I upgraded my internet speed to 60/15. |
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| 02:17.31 | aphorise | I've restored an image (7.5) onto a new machine... & done udevadm trigger action=add - I see 2x interfaces - I renamed eth0 & 1 accodringly but I see eth0 & 1 only... |
| 02:17.35 | aphorise | what am I doing wrong? |
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| 02:17.51 | aphorise | I see eth0 & 2 |
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| 02:18.31 | dvs | aphorise: look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 02:19.00 | aphorise | dvs, I have... but having renamed & rebooted 1x from eth2 to eth1 - |
| 02:19.13 | aphorise | dvs, I still only see eth2 in > ifconfig -a |
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| 02:19.46 | aphorise | I have 2x revision RT8111 rev 06 & now - the image I am restoring from is from a machine that had at least one of these NIC working. |
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| 02:19.53 | aphorise | rev 6 & 9 |
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| 02:20.35 | dvs | aphorise: I get they have different MAC addresses |
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| 02:22.38 | some-cowbell | aphorize, do you need both right now? |
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| 02:22.40 | aphorise | dvs, any ideas what else I can try? - |
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| 02:23.08 | dvs | aphorise: rename the file then reboot? |
| 02:23.11 | aphorise | some-cowbell, yes - well I know 1 of them will work on DHCP , etc... namely the one on the motherboard |
| 02:23.18 | aphorise | dvs, tried that already. |
| 02:23.37 | dvs | aphorise: then I'm out of ideas |
| 02:23.41 | some-cowbell | so one of them doesn't work? |
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| 02:24.30 | aphorise | some-cowbell, yes |
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| 02:24.47 | aphorise | some-cowbell, the rev 9 RT8111 seems not to be working |
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| 02:25.07 | some-cowbell | ok, well, do you use nm? or just /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 02:25.41 | some-cowbell | is the machine up (as far as it can get anyway) right now? |
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| 02:25.49 | gregor2_ | i have a problem |
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| 02:27.13 | gregor2_ | at nvidia-settings the settings are saved in a file called ~/.nvidia-settings-rc |
| 02:27.37 | gregor2_ | but it is not getting loaded automatically. |
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| 02:28.31 | some-cowbell | gregor2_ are you sure you're using the nvidia driver at the moment? |
| 02:28.43 | gregor2_ | yes |
| 02:29.24 | gregor2_ | it says i have to "write nvidia-settings -l" in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc or ~/.xinitrc |
| 02:29.32 | gregor2_ | but both files dont exist! |
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| 02:30.24 | some-cowbell | are you just now trying to get nvidia driver to work? |
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| 02:31.10 | gregor2_ | its about the settings! they are back to standard if i reboot! |
| 02:32.00 | some-cowbell | so the settings need to be written to a settings file? |
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| 02:32.18 | gregor2_ | In the man page of nvidia-settings it says i have to type this line into the xinitrc file |
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| 02:33.01 | gregor2_ | the settings are getting written to nvidia-settings-rc! |
| 02:33.06 | some-cowbell | there are probably other files that would work in; you probably use somedm |
| 02:33.55 | some-cowbell | so I'm not sure what the problem is yet |
| 02:33.58 | gregor2_ | the comand "nvidia-settings -l" must be typed to load the settings! |
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| 02:34.19 | some-cowbell | what if you type that at a shell? |
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| 02:35.10 | gregor2_ | i think that works, but i dont know if it must be executed bevor anything. |
| 02:35.23 | gregor2_ | Like the start of x server for example! |
| 02:36.02 | some-cowbell | if you try it now, you can find out if that limitation exists |
| 02:37.35 | some-cowbell | if you're running X now (and nvidia driver), and if that works, it probably needs to run after the server comes up |
| 02:37.39 | gregor2_ | I know something is wrong, the pc sometimes overheats and go's out suddenly, or 3d games are running slower after a time! |
| 02:38.17 | some-cowbell | that part, you need to add fans or keep the processor slower or something |
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| 02:38.35 | some-cowbell | or more generally debug the heat flow thru the box |
| 02:39.19 | gregor2_ | how can i do this? |
| 02:39.22 | some-cowbell | maybe some fans are going bad (dust in motor possibly) and they need to be replaced |
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| 02:41.00 | some-cowbell | these are two very different problems :) |
| 02:41.32 | pwhs | You should clean the fans every few months. |
| 02:41.55 | gregor2_ | its a leptop |
| 02:42.11 | pwhs | Sorry |
| 02:42.24 | pwhs | I was refering to the desktop systems. |
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| 02:42.34 | some-cowbell | then its heat flow might be misdesigned |
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| 02:43.29 | some-cowbell | and you need to be careful to not let it get too hot (manually: if too hot, let it rest, shut it down, video games are particularly heat-producing) |
| 02:43.35 | pwhs | Gregor2 I have a 2.4 Ghz amd 4 core, 2 tb hd with 12 GB of ram that I am going to be using to offer free web hosting on. |
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| 02:44.19 | pwhs | Gregor2 My internet speed is 60 down 15 up. |
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| 02:46.30 | aphorise | Its strange I am getting eth0 & eth1 with differnt HWaddr but they both getting same DHCP IP |
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| 02:46.38 | gregor2_ | but i think it has something to do with this option in the nvidia-settings |
| 02:47.04 | gregor2_ | "adaptive" and "prefer maximum performance" |
| 02:47.27 | some-cowbell | and those are set to yes? |
| 02:47.56 | gregor2_ | these are two options, |
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| 02:48.09 | gregor2_ | i can chose only one of them |
| 02:48.39 | gregor2_ | but i dont know if they even apply. |
| 02:49.04 | some-cowbell | have you tried the command at the shell yet? |
| 02:49.09 | gregor2_ | yes |
| 02:49.14 | some-cowbell | and? |
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| 02:51.05 | gregor2_ | there are three possibilities. |
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| 02:51.36 | gregor2_ | the first is That games are running very slow with 20 fps after a view minutes! |
| 02:51.47 | gregor2_ | but at the beginning at 200 fps1 |
| 02:52.08 | some-cowbell | does it get hot after a few mins? |
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| 02:52.22 | gregor2_ | no |
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| 02:52.55 | some-cowbell | ok, the other two possibilities? |
| 02:53.06 | gregor2_ | the second is that the games are running with 200 constantly but after a view minutes it drops to 100 and the pc go's out! |
| 02:53.30 | some-cowbell | is it hot then? |
| 02:53.39 | gregor2_ | yes i think! |
| 02:53.49 | gregor2_ | but the fan is not blowing faster |
| 02:54.21 | some-cowbell | when you put your hand where the fan blows out, does it seem hot?" |
| 02:54.31 | gregor2_ | and the third one is that everything is fine. The games are running with 200 constantly and after a view minutes the fan starts blowing louder. |
| 02:54.43 | gregor2_ | But it still runs with 200 fps! |
| 02:54.53 | oxez | Is there a way with apt-get to show the new versions of the packages that would be upgraded with upgrade and dist-upgrade? It gives me the packages, but not their versions |
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| 02:55.18 | gregor2_ | I dont tried that with the hot air! |
| 02:55.36 | gregor2_ | The third would be ideal! |
| 02:56.21 | some-cowbell | are these three possibilities behaviors you have actually observed? |
| 02:56.32 | oxez | oh. apt-get -V does it |
| 02:56.40 | gregor2_ | yes |
| 02:56.56 | gregor2_ | but i dont know when they appear |
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| 02:57.21 | gregor2_ | of corse i tried everything to change in the nvidia-settings! |
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| 02:58.35 | gregor2_ | I had the idea that possibility 1 is the adaptive mode! (gpu glocks down at to big heat, so that the fan is not loud) |
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| 02:59.26 | gregor2_ | possibility 3 is the "max performance mode" (gpu dont glocks down, instead it turns up the fan) |
| 02:59.43 | some-cowbell | I would have guessed that max performance mode causes the most heat |
| 03:00.11 | some-cowbell | but you're still not sure which setting does what? |
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| 03:00.45 | gregor2_ | and possibility 2 is also the "max performance mode" but it dont turns up the fan because any shitt in the driver was not loaded! |
| 03:00.58 | gregor2_ | but i dont know if i am right! |
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| 03:01.46 | gregor2_ | I know those settings from windows, and they are discribed like this! |
| 03:02.27 | gregor2_ | So adaptive is silent and has less performance than "max performance mode" |
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| 03:03.39 | some-cowbell | do you run these games on linux? |
| 03:03.44 | gregor2_ | Yes |
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| 03:05.04 | some-cowbell | ok, the only thing that came out of this, is we still don't know if the settings get into the nvidia driver when you run that command at the shell |
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| 03:06.43 | gregor2_ | So i thought about that: if i would write the command "nvidia-settings -l" in this xinitrc file, maybe the setting gets set bevor anything gets loaded and the max performance mode works right? |
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| 03:07.14 | some-cowbell | have you tried using the command at the shell? |
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| 03:11.06 | gregor2_ | yes |
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| 03:11.43 | some-cowbell | and did it have any effect on the performance of the game, running it after you did that? |
| 03:11.56 | gregor2_ | sometimes possibility 2 or 3! |
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| 03:12.22 | gregor2_ | possibility 1 comes if i set the adaptive mode! |
| 03:12.25 | some-cowbell | when it's 2, does the machine seem hot? |
| 03:12.47 | gregor2_ | i dont tried that, but i should have done that! |
| 03:13.33 | gregor2_ | But suddenly the screen gets black and its off! |
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| 03:14.30 | some-cowbell | so running "nvidia-settings -l" at the shell seems to add the settings to the driver successfully? |
| 03:14.56 | some-cowbell | so, when you move the laptop the screen blanks? |
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| 03:15.31 | gregor2_ | yes nvidia-settings -l does |
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| 03:16.23 | some-cowbell | OK, that seems to indicate you can run that command any time after X starts |
| 03:16.36 | gregor2_ | and the screen suddenly gets black if i play a 3d game for a time! |
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| 03:17.19 | gregor2_ | the command works yes |
| 03:18.01 | some-cowbell | I have no idea why the screen blanks like that, maybe something crashes. do you have to reboot when that happens? |
| 03:18.01 | gregor2_ | but couldt went something wrong if i do this after the start of x server? |
| 03:18.23 | gregor2_ | the machine suddenly gos off! |
| 03:18.34 | gregor2_ | thats why the screen gos black |
| 03:18.50 | some-cowbell | oh, ok, so it completely turns off |
| 03:18.50 | some-cowbell | ? |
| 03:18.54 | gregor2_ | yes |
| 03:19.06 | gregor2_ | like unpluging! |
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| 03:20.10 | some-cowbell | that's probably heat protection kicking in |
| 03:20.27 | gregor2_ | i think so, yes! |
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| 03:21.46 | some-cowbell | so here's probably what's happening: you start playing the game, things get a little hot, the machine powers off. when you do it again, the machine could be getting hotter |
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| 03:22.58 | gregor2_ | the machine could be get hotter if i do it again? |
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| 03:23.15 | gregor2_ | but why isnt it simply turning on that Fan? |
| 03:23.18 | some-cowbell | if you run the game again, yes |
| 03:23.31 | some-cowbell | don't know the answer to that |
| 03:23.47 | gregor2_ | Its so silent all the time until it crashes! |
| 03:24.12 | some-cowbell | what kind of HD do you have in the machine? |
| 03:24.32 | gregor2_ | in case 3 it is turning on the fan, that would be perfect! |
| 03:24.42 | gregor2_ | hard drive? |
| 03:24.46 | gregor2_ | i dont know |
| 03:25.24 | gregor2_ | wait a second |
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| 03:26.11 | gregor2 | just had to restart the irc |
| 03:26.21 | some-cowbell | so, that's one of the things you want to protect from too much heat... if it's one of those 2.5" drives, too much heat could completely destroy the HD |
| 03:27.23 | gregor2 | thats not good |
| 03:27.31 | some-cowbell | and you know how newer and newer laptops get thinner and thinner? |
| 03:28.37 | some-cowbell | as the newer models get thinner, there is less physical space for air and heat to flow |
| 03:29.35 | some-cowbell | I'd be curious to know what happens to performance when you let the laptop rest in power-off mode |
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| 03:30.33 | gregor2 | dont worry |
| 03:30.42 | gregor2 | my leptop isnt thin |
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| 03:32.20 | gregor2 | but i think its a driver problem, because case 2 is like case 3 without turning on the fan! |
| 03:32.38 | gregor2 | i think the system only dont turns the speed of fan up |
| 03:33.20 | some-cowbell | we've probably gone as far as we can... explored all the possibilities, and good chance we know what's happening (overheating). I wonder if you can get direct control over the fan (maybe someone on ##linux or ##hardware has some information) |
| 03:33.38 | some-cowbell | also I still wonder if your fans need cleaning or replacing |
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| 03:35.29 | gregor2 | taking control over fans, |
| 03:35.51 | gregor2 | i tried that already, with the package fancontroll. |
| 03:36.00 | some-cowbell | what happened? |
| 03:36.09 | gregor2 | but it dont works on my hardware! |
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| 03:36.30 | some-cowbell | hmm |
| 03:36.32 | gregor2 | and i think you can only handle the speed of the cpu vas |
| 03:37.29 | saxgeek | How do I enable the nomodeset option when booting? Should I change video=-16 to video=nomodeset, or just add nomodeset at the end of the whole thing? |
| 03:37.46 | some-cowbell | do you have a fairly good idea exactly what hardware is controlling your fans? |
| 03:37.53 | gregor2 | i want to try configuring it like nvidia discribed. |
| 03:38.19 | gregor2 | but this file dont exists! |
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| 03:39.09 | some-cowbell | it's also not how your X is started, so it might be not relevent |
| 03:40.08 | sithfm | thanks for the recommendation jhutchins |
| 03:40.19 | sithfm | (re: awffull) |
| 03:40.42 | some-cowbell | it does look like the command works to set the driver parameters |
| 03:41.02 | some-cowbell | when you run it from the shell |
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| 03:44.20 | some-cowbell | does xinitrc run before or after the X server itself is started? |
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| 03:45.33 | r0bby | So question: I'm using debian testing...why is wineconsole not included with wine packages? |
| 03:45.43 | r0bby | Is there a rationale behind this? \ |
| 03:45.48 | some-cowbell | no idea |
| 03:46.22 | some-cowbell | there may be more info on irc.oftc.net channel #debian-next |
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| 03:46.52 | some-cowbell | maybe it's in a separate package |
| 03:46.53 | gregor2 | as it seams, it controlls with applications are starting if i log into x or startx! |
| 03:46.59 | r0bby | Saw the topic and headed there |
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| 03:47.03 | gregor2 | no thers no manpage |
| 03:47.12 | gregor2 | which is really strange |
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| 03:47.40 | some-cowbell | r0bby: cheers |
| 03:47.52 | gregor2 | and there is no xinitrc file. |
| 03:48.03 | gregor2 | debian must use another file for this |
| 03:49.25 | some-cowbell | there are many different ways, each tied to how X is started... for example, each of xdm, kdm, gdm, wdm will start X, and not use either .xSession or .xinitrc |
| 03:50.21 | some-cowbell | each of those four have their own mechanism for starting X |
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| 03:55.10 | gregor2 | oh |
| 03:55.30 | some-cowbell | and, all four probably have mechanisms for running arbitrary commands just after X starts |
| 03:56.26 | some-cowbell | do you run a desktop environment? if so which? |
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| 03:56.51 | gregor2 | but it most likely wont make a difference of doing it later in the shell? |
| 03:57.00 | gregor2 | gnome |
| 03:57.24 | some-cowbell | yes, that would be my guess. So if you use gnome, do you run gdm? |
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| 04:57.11 | eug888 | guys what are the different cds 1 2 3 4 and so on |
| 04:57.12 | eug888 | ? |
| 04:57.21 | eug888 | debian jessie? iso |
| 04:57.36 | addaitech | different packages |
| 04:58.28 | eug888 | how can i install all these packages in one ? |
| 04:58.41 | eug888 | 37500 applications |
| 04:58.42 | eug888 | ? |
| 04:59.52 | addaitech | download the netinstall |
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| 04:59.55 | addaitech | and go from there |
| 05:00.13 | eug888 | can i have download link for jessie? |
| 05:00.48 | Cpuroast | debian.org |
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| 05:03.25 | Cpuroast | eug888: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 05:04.33 | eug888 | Cpuraost when is official release of debian 8? |
| 05:04.41 | Cpuroast | freeze is in november |
| 05:04.48 | Cpuroast | so sometime in 2015 |
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| 05:08.39 | Cpuroast | eug888: so it's not quite ready yet :) |
| 05:09.15 | Cpuroast | jessie with the odd package from sid is quite a functional setup, if you know how to extinguish fires here and there |
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| 05:10.05 | Cpuroast | but wheezy with the odd backport is a better choice in most cases |
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| 05:35.03 | e^0 | why is ssh server restarted using `invoke-rc.d ssh restart` instead of /etc/init.d/ssh restart ? |
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| 05:39.16 | somiaj | e^0: invoke-rc.d are the debian scripst that get called from post/pre install scripts when packages are insatlled/removed |
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| 05:39.39 | somiaj | e^0: /etc/init.d/ssh restart works and so does 'service ssh restart'. You can use any method you want when restarting from the cli. |
| 05:40.05 | e^0 | somiaj: ok :) |
| 05:40.32 | somiaj | e^0: I personally use the /etc/init.d/ssh restart method myself. I have also noticed that in testing with systemd-sysv compadability layer package you can even use that method for systemd and not need systemctl |
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| 05:42.46 | e^0 | somiaj: that's good :) |
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| 05:55.03 | e^0 | is iwconfig and ifconfig not available anymore ? or there are some new implementations now ? |
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| 05:58.26 | jmcnaught | e^0: iwconfig and ifconfig both still exist but are deprecated. The replacements are iw and ip |
| 05:58.38 | nurupo | e^0: do you mean /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/iwconfig ? |
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| 06:00.16 | e^0 | jmcnaught: ip si there iw is not there, maybe i need to install the package, let me check it |
| 06:00.25 | e^0 | nurupo: yes i means ifconfig and iwconfig |
| 06:00.37 | e^0 | s/means/meant |
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| 06:03.19 | e^0 | jmcnaught: iw is the package to be installed :) |
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| 06:40.13 | Budoy | hi! iwant to ask what best or i can do to make a Remote Backup? please help |
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| 06:45.23 | e^0 | Budoy: rsync is a nice option for a remote backup |
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| 06:46.09 | Budoy | rsync is a gui? |
| 06:46.35 | shay_shay | No |
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| 06:48.01 | shay_shay | Grsync is tho :) |
| 06:48.50 | Budoy | ok.. on my debian OS i have to configure other than install of rsync? |
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| 06:49.26 | Budoy | and what port number for rsync? |
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| 06:51.47 | somiaj | Budoy: by default rsync doesn't run in daemon mode, (I think you need another package for that) |
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| 06:52.11 | somiaj | Budoy: most just use rsync over ssh, and no special configuration is needed for that. You just need rsync on both the server and client. |
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| 06:53.26 | Budoy | ok thank for the idea somiaj |
| 06:53.55 | Budoy | how about behind firewall? |
| 06:55.09 | somiaj | In that case if you chose to do it over ssh you need an ssh server running (this is a common thing to have) and port 22 open (the ssh port). Note depending on setup it could be another one, but that is default |
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| 07:21.16 | neo1691 | Does a new user need to be a part of some group to access internet |
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| 07:26.55 | neo1691 | ok |
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| 07:32.51 | SineDeviance | hi all. i have installed the latest debian netinst and trinity desktop on top of that. however, i am having trouble mounting my nexus 5 or getting it to show up in media players. i have libmtp. |
| 07:32.58 | SineDeviance | anyone know why that would happen? |
| 07:33.33 | SineDeviance | for reference i had lubuntu installed on the same machine before and it 'just worked' with banshee, but i can't say what was different or missing |
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| 07:34.15 | babilen | trinity desktop? |
| 07:34.24 | babilen | dpkg: trinity |
| 07:34.24 | dpkg | The Trinity Desktop Environment project is a fork of <KDE> 3.5. It is not part of Debian (KDE SC 4 is packaged) and their packages are neither supported by #debian nor by the Debian Security Team. http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/ #trinity-desktop on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 07:34.41 | babilen | SineDeviance: You might want to try ^^^^ |
| 07:35.02 | SineDeviance | it's not a problem with trinity, it's a problem with debian |
| 07:35.10 | SineDeviance | i can't even mount it using FUSE or fstab |
| 07:35.15 | SineDeviance | trinity isn't to blame for that |
| 07:35.30 | SineDeviance | does anyone know which package or module i could be missing? |
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| 07:40.33 | some-cowbell | SineDeviance: if trinity and its dependencies are not to blame (reasonable starting point), what do you think is wrong? |
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| 07:40.53 | CodePulsar | How can I prevent X server from auto restarting on crash? |
| 07:41.02 | CodePulsar | I lost a log file because of it after it crashed :( |
| 07:41.12 | CodePulsar | i.e. the .xsesssion-errors file |
| 07:41.26 | some-cowbell | that would be in your home dir |
| 07:41.26 | CodePulsar | Can I read somewhere the crash logs? |
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| 07:42.37 | CodePulsar | some-cowbell: because X auto started it overwrote the .xsession-errors file |
| 07:42.42 | SineDeviance | some-cowbell: it's not a DEPENDENCY issue. it's a missing library that has nothing at all to do with trinity |
| 07:42.59 | SineDeviance | some-cowbell: sorry, but i'm really not in the mood for people to tell me the DE is the problem when it has absolutely nothing to do with this low-level issue |
| 07:43.20 | SineDeviance | fstab is fstab no matter what is running on top of the system |
| 07:43.37 | some-cowbell | SineDeviance: if you read more carefully, you would note that I'm just asking you a question |
| 07:43.41 | babilen | SineDeviance: We don't know that and you are using an unsupported configuration. As desktop environments go they pull in rather a lot and I see no point in debugging this here with the assumption that your system behaves like Debian. |
| 07:43.42 | SineDeviance | if i installed gnome 3 i'd have the same issue |
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| 07:44.04 | SineDeviance | babilen: okay then, for sake of argument how about you just assume i am using debian base? because that's essentially the part that matters |
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| 07:44.12 | some-cowbell | so, what is indication a missing lib? |
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| 07:44.37 | SineDeviance | some-cowbell: i plug in my nexus 5 and nothing happens. i can't mount it with mtpfs. mtp-detect does detect it properly though. |
| 07:44.49 | SineDeviance | some-cowbell: also, media players like clementine and banshee cannot see it |
| 07:45.00 | babilen | SineDeviance: No, that's the point. I would assume something that isn't true. You are not using Debian and are therefore not supported in here. |
| 07:45.15 | SineDeviance | babilen: i absolutely am using debian, but ok. |
| 07:45.34 | some-cowbell | ok, is there an indication in the log about a missing (or duplicated) symbol? |
| 07:45.43 | SineDeviance | some-cowbell: lemme check :D |
| 07:45.56 | SineDeviance | some-cowbell: this would be in /var/log/syslog? |
| 07:46.05 | babilen | SineDeviance: Okay, to actually work with some data: Remove trinity sources from your sources.list and paste the output of "aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 07:46.08 | some-cowbell | well not sure where it would be |
| 07:46.59 | some-cowbell | I'm just trying to support you in your current hypothesis that the problem is a missing lib |
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| 07:49.07 | some-cowbell | and, normally, the indication that a lib is missing is not obviously stated... instead, a symbol in the lib will be not found, and if hopefully that symbol is unique enough to identify the lib that's missing, then you're golden and your hypothesis is realized |
| 07:49.23 | some-cowbell | the thing is, that's a big chain of ifs |
| 07:49.54 | SineDeviance | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/109145/ |
| 07:49.57 | babilen | ta |
| 07:50.21 | some-cowbell | one thing that could also support the same hypothesis is you could run the thing that you think needs the lib in gdb |
| 07:50.45 | some-cowbell | gdb should print a specific message |
| 07:50.54 | babilen | SineDeviance: See, lots and lots of packages that might have an influence. mtpfs is particularly worrisome |
| 07:51.21 | SineDeviance | babilen: mtpfs is required to mount the device |
| 07:51.24 | SineDeviance | you cannot do it without it |
| 07:51.52 | some-cowbell | do you think it's the driver for mtpfs that's missing the lib? |
| 07:52.09 | SineDeviance | some-cowbell: i don't know :( |
| 07:52.37 | babilen | SineDeviance: But, to give you the benefit of the doubt: Make sure that you actually have MTP enabled in Android. (settings → storage → options (the three squares) → USB computer connection → MTP |
| 07:52.43 | SineDeviance | i had this working on lubuntu base with trinity installed. it 'just worked' as i said before. i don't know what is missing |
| 07:53.01 | SineDeviance | babilen: i do :D usb debug is also disabled |
| 07:53.06 | SineDeviance | lemme try turning that on just for kicks |
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| 07:53.32 | babilen | SineDeviance: Yes, I am aware that mtpfs is required, but you have a mtpfs package installed from whereever and not from Debian. Paste the output of "apt-cache policy mtpfs" please. |
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| 07:54.03 | SineDeviance | babilen: i built it from source and rolled it into a deb |
| 07:54.09 | SineDeviance | it's the latest version |
| 07:54.12 | babilen | So, as I've been saying all along: You are using an unsupported configuration and I simply don't want to make assumptions based on that. |
| 07:54.21 | SineDeviance | *sigh* |
| 07:54.22 | some-cowbell | babilen: what does android give access to over mtpfs? |
| 07:54.49 | some-cowbell | or is mtpfs not in debian? |
| 07:54.52 | babilen | So, what else did you do that definitely have an influence on the way the system behaves? So, please .. either use standard Debian (I don't care which version) or seek support elsewhere. |
| 07:55.08 | SineDeviance | http://paste.debian.net/109146/ |
| 07:55.39 | SineDeviance | some-cowbell: mtpfs is not a stock package, but there's an outdated version in the repos |
| 07:55.45 | babilen | judd: v mtpfs |
| 07:55.46 | judd | Package: mtpfs on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9-3; sid: 1.1-5 |
| 07:55.56 | SineDeviance | hmm |
| 07:55.58 | SineDeviance | one sec |
| 07:56.47 | babilen | So, lets stop this now and either take it from the beginning with a clean Debian system or I am kindly asking you to seek support elsewhere. I am sorry, but *you* decided to install plenty of software from third-party sources. |
| 07:56.59 | SineDeviance | really? |
| 07:57.07 | SineDeviance | heh. that makes perfect sense, but okay then |
| 07:57.15 | SineDeviance | (not really. sarcasm.) |
| 07:57.36 | SineDeviance | if i reinstall from netinst i'm gonna have the same problem even if i install the debian desktop package |
| 07:57.37 | babilen | And, just fyi: MTP works prefectky fine here without the mtpfs package. |
| 07:57.42 | SineDeviance | i know this because i tried that and then removed it |
| 07:57.47 | some-cowbell | babilen: do you know of any debian options for an LG MS770 running android 4.0.4? |
| 07:57.54 | SineDeviance | babilen: do you have a nexus 5? |
| 07:57.59 | babilen | SineDeviance: I do indeed |
| 07:58.05 | some-cowbell | I would like to mount the microsd card |
| 07:58.12 | SineDeviance | babilen: ok, and you're running debian netinst with debian desktop installed? |
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| 07:58.55 | some-cowbell | you can in order to install... I'm sure babilen is not running the installer at the moment :) |
| 07:59.11 | babilen | SineDeviance: I am running unstable with i3, but only stock Debian packages. In particular I do not have mtpfs. I am willing to walk you through this, but your configuration is so far removed from standard Debian that it simply doesn't make sense. |
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| 07:59.32 | some-cowbell | if you have lots of unpartitioned hard disk space you could install an additional debian |
| 07:59.50 | SineDeviance | babilen: it's standard debian stable + trinity desktop + qupzilla. i understand your argument but it really doesn't make sense with this being a low-level issue? |
| 08:00.11 | SineDeviance | also unstable is unstable |
| 08:00.18 | SineDeviance | i like stable :D |
| 08:00.29 | some-cowbell | that's a good choice |
| 08:00.45 | babilen | I don't know that and I do not want to work two hours only to figure out that the assumption that it doesn't have an influence turned out to be wrong. It is the policy of this channel to *only* support pure Debian (for social and technical reasons). |
| 08:01.07 | babilen | So, and could you *please* verify that you enabled MTP? |
| 08:01.18 | babilen | (on the phone) |
| 08:01.35 | some-cowbell | is mtp pretty new? |
| 08:02.12 | babilen | Not really, but usb mass storage was working too well to keep on using that in phones. |
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| 08:03.13 | some-cowbell | I'm going to try to enable that, I'm having trouble finding it. could someone repeat the path? |
| 08:03.48 | petern_ | MTP doesn't work at all for me :) |
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| 08:04.04 | petern_ | I blame the phone, though. |
| 08:05.43 | some-cowbell | ok, it says connect as... (bunch of choices) MTP |
| 08:05.50 | SineDeviance | babilen: i know why it doesn't work |
| 08:05.55 | ukaz | cave purge |
| 08:06.05 | babilen | SineDeviance: yes? |
| 08:06.05 | SineDeviance | the version of libmtp i have is out of date and does not support the nexus 5 |
| 08:06.12 | SineDeviance | yours is up to date because you're on unstable, and does |
| 08:06.21 | SineDeviance | makes sense, no? :D |
| 08:06.30 | babilen | So, did you remove those third-party packages by now? |
| 08:06.39 | SineDeviance | nope. no need to. i just need to upgrade libmtp |
| 08:07.07 | babilen | Okay, please refrain from seeking support in here in that case and take it to ##linux or another channel that you deem appropriate. |
| 08:07.12 | some-cowbell | how do you want to go about that? it may even be necessary to build into a package |
| 08:07.53 | some-cowbell | , v mtpfs |
| 08:07.53 | babilen | It's in backports. But lets move on now. |
| 08:07.54 | judd | Package: mtpfs on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9-3; sid: 1.1-5 |
| 08:08.07 | babilen | You neither need nor want that package |
| 08:08.43 | some-cowbell | ok, what do I need to see my microsd card? |
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| 08:13.21 | some-cowbell | babilen, so if you're worried I'm going to support someone who doesn't have a pure system (or whatever the phrase is), I may have that secondary goal, at least to learn enough to be of help. The primary goal is for me to again (after months) be able to transfer files back n forth to my phone |
| 08:13.57 | babilen | some-cowbell: Are you trying to use MTP on a stock Debian system? |
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| 08:14.15 | babilen | some-cowbell: And yes, this channel quite intentionally only supports pure Debian. |
| 08:14.34 | jelly-home | SineDeviance: the library is not the only problem; mtpfs is unreliable crap, go-mtpfs (not in debian) is supposedly better, and jmtpfs (not in wheezy) might work better but I haven't tried it yet |
| 08:14.50 | some-cowbell | yeah, it is stock... but I don't know enough about mtp to know whether it's going to be of use to me |
| 08:15.13 | petern_ | < some-cowbell> ok, what do I need to see my microsd card? < a microsd card reader plugged in via usb :p |
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| 08:16.06 | some-cowbell | petern_, I'm not sure I want to handle the thing, I'd have to go out and get a reader tomorrow if that were the case |
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| 08:16.20 | babilen | some-cowbell: Might want to try libmtp9 from wheezy-backports then - that being said: Don't use MTP if your phone supports standard usb mass storage |
| 08:16.40 | some-cowbell | how can I tell if it does? |
| 08:17.03 | some-cowbell | my earlier phone did |
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| 08:17.46 | petern_ | Yeah, they removed it from Android 4. |
| 08:17.59 | some-cowbell | which is what I'm running |
| 08:18.08 | some-cowbell | 4.0.4 |
| 08:18.18 | petern_ | So out of date :p |
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| 08:18.50 | some-cowbell | oh whatever :P so helpful :P I'd use the net if that were easier |
| 08:19.05 | petern_ | This is the 'net' |
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| 08:20.10 | some-cowbell | well yes... I meant to say I'd connect to my local wirelessAP and fire up a web server or something |
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| 08:21.13 | petern_ | You might be able to do something if you root the phone, but no guarantee. |
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| 08:21.32 | some-cowbell | I eventually want to do that |
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| 08:22.14 | some-cowbell | that's something of an extreme action... and doens't have have some risks? |
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| 08:22.35 | oiu | ciao |
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| 08:22.42 | oiu | !list |
| 08:22.43 | dpkg | oiu: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 08:22.43 | petern_ | No idea, I've never done it. |
| 08:23.12 | some-cowbell | I would need to know why I would do it before considering it |
| 08:23.42 | babilen | some-cowbell: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 08:24.12 | some-cowbell | I'd like to transfer files between my desktop and the microsd card in my phone |
| 08:24.43 | jelly-home | babilen: in my experience android 4.x phone that have usb mass-storage deal with it poorly and often corrupt the fs. Prefer MTP _when_ it works |
| 08:24.48 | some-cowbell | and it seems like I have what, 2 choices? 3? |
| 08:25.07 | petern_ | 1 real choice. MicroSD card reader. |
| 08:25.18 | petern_ | (If MTP doesn't work) |
| 08:25.28 | jelly-home | babilen: noone ever remembers to cleanly unmount the sd card |
| 08:25.33 | some-cowbell | that sounds reasonable |
| 08:25.36 | some-cowbell | I do |
| 08:25.45 | some-cowbell | I always unmount |
| 08:25.48 | jelly-home | some-cowbell: on the phone? |
| 08:25.59 | babilen | some-cowbell: So, and you installed libmtp9 from wheezy-backports already, checked that MTP is enabled on your phone and ... what? |
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| 08:26.19 | some-cowbell | all I need is that lib? no, not yet |
| 08:26.27 | babilen | So, why don't you do that? |
| 08:26.35 | some-cowbell | ok |
| 08:26.57 | petern_ | Trying it too :) |
| 08:27.02 | jelly-home | ,v jmtpfs |
| 08:27.03 | judd | Package: jmtpfs on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 0.5-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.5-2; sid: 0.5-2 |
| 08:27.16 | babilen | Or, for that matter, elaborate on what happens if you try to use it in your system's current state. |
| 08:27.27 | jelly-home | ah, someone backported that |
| 08:27.28 | babilen | An jmtpfs seems to be an option too. |
| 08:27.31 | babilen | *Ah |
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| 08:29.03 | some-cowbell | it's removing libmtp-runtime |
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| 08:29.25 | babilen | jmtpfs? |
| 08:29.30 | babilen | Or rather installing that? |
| 08:29.36 | some-cowbell | me? no |
| 08:29.49 | some-cowbell | not yet anyway... is that a different choice? |
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| 08:30.32 | babilen | some-cowbell: so what is removing libmtp-runtime? |
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| 08:31.03 | some-cowbell | aptitude install -t wheezy-backports libmtp9 |
| 08:31.25 | babilen | Ah, okay. You can grab libmtp-runtime from backports too |
| 08:31.35 | some-cowbell | oh ok |
| 08:31.50 | babilen | (aptitude might even offer that if you cycle through the various suggestions) |
| 08:33.00 | some-cowbell | Setting up libmtp-runtime (1.1.6-20-g1b9f164-1~bpo70+1) ... |
| 08:33.30 | some-cowbell | am I ready to try connecting the phone? |
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| 08:34.07 | babilen | I guess |
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| 08:34.25 | some-cowbell | ok, |
| 08:34.50 | some-cowbell | finding the cable. |
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| 08:39.23 | some-cowbell | dmesg says I have a scsi cdrom |
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| 08:44.40 | tilt | petern_: your typing skills must be exceptional if you typed that into a free-falling keyboard |
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| 08:45.08 | petern_ | Failing, not falling. |
| 08:45.26 | petern_ | And I'm typing on a netbook instead. |
| 08:45.56 | petern_ | usb 3-1: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 1 but max is 0 |
| 08:45.57 | petern_ | :S |
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| 09:04.57 | some-cowbell | all I see on connecting the phone is it finds an sr1, which doesn't appear in /dev |
| 09:05.21 | some-cowbell | but there are a lot of lines in dmesg about it |
| 09:05.26 | jelly | ,v postfix |
| 09:05.27 | judd | Package: postfix on i386 -- squeeze: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.9.3-2.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.9.6-2; wheezy-backports: 2.11.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.11.1-1; sid: 2.11.1-1 |
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| 09:14.02 | Budoy | hi! i ask again how can access the USB HDD via xrdp? |
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| 09:16.01 | Budoy | if i go direct to pc i access |
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| 09:32.00 | some-cowbell | Budoy, I dunno what xrdp is, but usually you connect to usb then you can mount |
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| 09:34.27 | some-cowbell | ok, so xrdp is a remote desktop protocol... so you actually want more than just access to a usb hd |
| 09:34.27 | SynrGy | some-cowbell: rdp is remote desktop protocol. it goes beyond what vnc supports, handling the transport of video/audio, shared drives, etc. |
| 09:34.56 | some-cowbell | so it might be useful with virtual machines |
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| 09:35.39 | some-cowbell | anyway peer has taken Budoy away |
| 09:36.00 | ed8 | hi, I'm working on a systemd services and when I try to run: systemctl daemon-reload |
| 09:36.20 | ed8 | I got: systemctl: command not found |
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| 09:36.34 | some-cowbell | and daemon is something you wrote or something you are supplying? |
| 09:36.53 | some-cowbell | who are you trying as? |
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| 09:38.14 | ed8 | some-cowbell: currently as 'sudo' on a Ubuntu machine (tests on debian coming later) |
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| 09:38.31 | gribouille | hi |
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| 09:38.43 | gribouille | how is security managed on testing? |
| 09:38.48 | ed8 | some-cowbell: I'm writing the service myself |
| 09:39.23 | some-cowbell | so you're writing the daemon and you're writing the script used by systemd? |
| 09:39.33 | SynrGy | ed8: while your intentions are good, we really can't help here unless you actually use debian |
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| 09:40.01 | some-cowbell | btw... sometimes sudo gets the path wrong... try logging in as root, or supplying full path to systemctl |
| 09:40.12 | ed8 | could you tell me if the package name is correct ? |
| 09:40.26 | SynrGy | for ubuntu? who knows. |
| 09:40.44 | ed8 | SynrGy: debian at least |
| 09:40.52 | some-cowbell | , v systemd |
| 09:40.53 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 204-14; sid: 204-14; experimental: 208-5 |
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| 09:42.02 | some-cowbell | , file bin/systemctl |
| 09:42.06 | judd | Search for bin/systemctl in wheezy/i386: systemd: bin/systemctl |
| 09:42.10 | Babalau | guys ... how can i see where 'chromium' is installed ? |
| 09:42.37 | some-cowbell | run this, dpkg -L chromium |
| 09:42.56 | some-cowbell | it will tell you all the files in the tarball |
| 09:43.27 | Babalau | thx |
| 09:43.37 | xar- | morning #debian; I'm having issue with my intel NIC on deb 7 3.2; is moving to a backport kernel, such as linux-image-3.14, a reasonable thought to be having |
| 09:43.47 | Budoy | the error of HDD when i access via xrdp is no restriction |
| 09:44.14 | SynrGy | xar-: lspci -nn | grep -i ethernet |
| 09:44.36 | xar- | 00:14.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:1f41] (rev 03) |
| 09:45.06 | SynrGy | ,pciid [8086:1f41] |
| 09:45.06 | some-cowbell | xar, usually if your devices are all working, it's thought you should be happy with that UNLESS there is something very specific the thought-about kernel would provide |
| 09:45.06 | judd | [8086:1f41] is 'Ethernet Connection I354' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'igb', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1f41 |
| 09:45.16 | SynrGy | ,pciid [8086:1f41] --release jessie |
| 09:45.17 | judd | [8086:1f41] is 'Ethernet Connection I354' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'igb', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1f41 |
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| 09:45.31 | SynrGy | xar-: describe your issue |
| 09:45.38 | ed8 | some-cowbell: thanks |
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| 09:46.23 | xar- | im not very good at hardware troubleeshooting, basically im getting a "netdev watchdog" panic on my "igb" eth0 nic; it causes the server to crash; I was hoping maybe a new kernel would fix it. |
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| 09:46.43 | SynrGy | xar-: you could try it and see |
| 09:47.07 | workingcats | hi, having a little problem, my apt-get just segfaults. only thing i changed was to add libboost-signals1.55.0 from jessie to /etc/apt/preferences.d/* and install that package |
| 09:47.13 | some-cowbell | that's one reason to be thinking of a new kernel... |
| 09:47.17 | SynrGy | i assume you're fully up to date with the kernel from wheezy? |
| 09:47.20 | workingcats | now when i try apt-get install ekiga/jessie i get the segfault :/ |
| 09:47.35 | xar- | I just did a fresh install via "deboostrap" |
| 09:47.51 | SynrGy | k |
| 09:47.54 | xar- | about to boot to load the backport 3.14 kernel, then i'll need to slam the server with connections to see if it falls over :S |
| 09:48.14 | SynrGy | workingcats: distro mixing is not supported. just don't. |
| 09:48.17 | some-cowbell | what is one supposed to do after debootstrap to set up the new install? |
| 09:48.28 | xar- | what do you mean? |
| 09:48.39 | workingcats | SynrG, i didnt ask about official support ;) |
| 09:48.43 | SynrGy | workingcats: if you just changed the one package, you might be able to recover by downloading again the wheezy version and dpkg -i to install it. |
| 09:49.03 | workingcats | it's an additional package |
| 09:49.11 | workingcats | doesnt exist in wheezy |
| 09:49.19 | SynrGy | then it's not the "only" thing you changed. |
| 09:49.36 | xar- | the only reason I chose a debootstrap because the datacenter supplied images were... comical. |
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| 09:50.16 | some-cowbell | I'm just asking what the next steps are for debootstrap installs |
| 09:50.23 | workingcats | SynrG, it is, by running "apt-get purge libboost-signals1.55.0" i can work around the issue |
| 09:50.40 | workingcats | ofc then i still dont have the newer ekiga i need |
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| 09:51.11 | peetaur2 | workingcats: did you also update glibc when it asked? that is the best way to utterly destroy a system. |
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| 09:51.34 | workingcats | peetaur2, as noted, the only thing i changed was the file in preferences.d and to install an additional libboost-signals |
| 09:51.39 | SynrGy | workingcats: then you have your solution. just don't mix distros. |
| 09:51.46 | workingcats | i'm not retarded i'm not gonna replace glibc |
| 09:51.49 | peetaur2 | workingcats: did you install anything after editing the file? |
| 09:51.58 | SynrGy | it's not about asking for "official" support. it's about asking for support, period. |
| 09:52.01 | SynrGy | we don't support that |
| 09:52.04 | workingcats | peetaur2, yes, libboost-signals1.55.0 |
| 09:52.07 | peetaur2 | workingcats: instead of jessie, maybe all you need is backports, which works great |
| 09:52.14 | workingcats | peetaur2, not in backports :( |
| 09:52.16 | xar- | some-cowbell: it's pretty vanilla, configure partitions, filesystem table, download the bulk system from a debian mirror, configure networking, install a kernel, locales, setup grub, install ssh; reboot. voila |
| 09:52.20 | peetaur2 | workingcats: and are you sure it didn't pull any dependencies with it? |
| 09:52.40 | workingcats | peetaur2, yep, it seems to pick up the newer libboost-signals and then get confused |
| 09:53.40 | workingcats | since it's an additional version and not a replacement i figured i'd just give it a go |
| 09:53.48 | xar- | i guess i'll report back if/when the IGP nic fails again |
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| 09:54.24 | SynrGy | workingcats: so, lesson learned? your assumption was wrong. is there anything else we can help with? |
| 09:54.33 | workingcats | right i guess i should try to compile ekiga-4 on wheezy myself then.. assuming i succeed in that, should i submit that to backports |
| 09:54.40 | workingcats | SynrG, you could try cutting that attitude |
| 09:54.53 | SynrGy | i'm trying to move things back to what we can help with |
| 09:54.59 | SynrGy | this is not an "attitude" |
| 09:55.15 | workingcats | if you dont like what i'm trying to do just ignore me, no need to behave like this |
| 09:55.59 | workingcats | but to return to the issue, assuming i succeed in making a backport should i submit that, or are backports only made for certain packages? |
| 09:56.03 | workingcats | s/made/accepted/ |
| 09:56.26 | SynrGy | workingcats: if what you're trying to do is backport, i fully support that. it was only the distro mixing i objected to |
| 09:56.55 | SynrGy | workingcats: and i truly hope your assumption is now fixed. you can't "simply" install a new package from jessie and expect no ill effects |
| 09:57.10 | SynrGy | so i was sincere in my assessment, not just trying to blow you off |
| 09:57.17 | workingcats | ok in that case apologies |
| 09:57.35 | workingcats | well i've got the wiki page, let's see how i fare with the backport |
| 09:57.42 | SynrGy | yep. good luck |
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| 09:59.17 | workingcats | didn't sleep too much this week so i guess i'm a bit sensitive ;) |
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| 10:02.22 | SynrGy | workingcats: no worries |
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| 10:04.35 | some-cowbell | there seems to be an increasing number of 21yo fems coming around |
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| 10:12.29 | Babalau | anyone knows where i can download libpepflashplayer.so |
| 10:13.14 | SynrGy | pepperflashplugin-nonfree from contrib |
| 10:13.29 | Babalau | SynrG, mmm |
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| 10:13.38 | SynrGy | i assume you mean on jessie |
| 10:13.43 | formorer | or from backports. |
| 10:13.49 | Nik05 | my apt-file search doesnt find it SynrGy |
| 10:13.52 | SynrGy | ,v pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 10:13.54 | judd | Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 1.4; sid/contrib: 1.4 |
| 10:14.14 | Nik05 | oh that pepperflash probably downloads it... |
| 10:14.18 | SynrGy | yes |
| 10:14.32 | SynrGy | it's a downloader/installer, along the lines of flashplugin-nonfree |
| 10:15.20 | Babalau | i can't seem to find it on debian website |
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| 10:17.10 | SynrGy | Babalau: ? http://packages.debian.org/pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
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| 10:17.19 | SynrGy | Babalau: typo? |
| 10:17.23 | Babalau | maybe |
| 10:17.25 | Babalau | thank you |
| 10:17.52 | SynrGy | Babalau: or see Nik05's comment and my answer ... |
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| 10:18.05 | SynrGy | Babalau: you can't search for that file at packages.debian.org because it's a downloader/installer |
| 10:18.17 | SynrGy | i.e. debian doesn't ship the file |
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| 10:18.31 | hallucinogen | When is p0f going to be v3? |
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| 10:18.42 | Babalau | hmmm |
| 10:18.44 | Nik05 | hallucinogen its in experimental |
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| 10:19.21 | Babalau | SynrG, how did you find it |
| 10:19.28 | hallucinogen | Nik05: P0f v3 is in the experimental repos right now? |
| 10:19.35 | Nik05 | yes hallucinogen |
| 10:19.59 | hallucinogen | Nik05: Oh, how cool. Thanks so much for the ultra fast answer. |
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| 10:20.49 | jelly | Babalau: that thing can only be downloaded as part of google chrome. the package actually downloads the whole of chrome, and takes just the flash plugin out |
| 10:21.20 | SynrGy | Babalau: by not searching for the file ... i simply know |
| 10:21.33 | Nik05 | oh hallucinogen i think it has been in experimental for some time, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=680884 |
| 10:21.35 | SynrGy | Babalau: problem is, you asked the wrong question |
| 10:21.36 | Babalau | SynrG, jelly ... that works like a char |
| 10:21.38 | Babalau | charm |
| 10:21.43 | Babalau | oh.. i did ? |
| 10:21.57 | SynrGy | Babalau: if your question was "how do i get pepperflash for debian?" a simple apt-cache search would find it |
| 10:22.10 | SynrGy | x/y problem. you were focusing on a detail |
| 10:22.16 | SynrGy | and got lost |
| 10:22.23 | Babalau | ah |
| 10:22.26 | Babalau | i see now |
| 10:22.40 | jelly | but that works iff the user has contrib enabled |
| 10:22.44 | SynrGy | yes |
| 10:23.21 | jelly | so they'd have to know about it being in contrib in advance to be able to find it in contrib |
| 10:23.31 | jelly | ^_^ |
| 10:23.44 | Babalau | :)) |
| 10:23.45 | SynrGy | or use packages.debian.org and search for 'pepperflash' |
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| 10:24.37 | SynrGy | the key there, though, is to change the default search 'stable' to 'any' to get backports included |
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| 10:25.32 | SynrGy | curiously, there's no backports in the drop-down menu :p |
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| 10:27.14 | Babalau | lol |
| 10:27.16 | Babalau | :) |
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| 10:27.39 | equex | hey. using wheezy, im am running out of vm space. how can i purge all the languages in /usr/share/local for all the various apps that decided to dump language files i dont need there ? |
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| 10:29.11 | equex | gimp,evolution,pidgin and a couple others has a bazillion .mo files there. i want to purge all but english without damaging the system. |
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| 10:31.20 | jelly | or you could grow the VM disk a bit |
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| 10:31.57 | jelly | equex: apt-cache search locale purge |
| 10:34.28 | equex | hm that didnt free too much. and cant remove evolution without removing gnome |
| 10:34.48 | equex | ill try to grow |
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| 10:40.14 | equex | hum virtualbox doesnt seem to do that |
| 10:40.37 | swi | Greetings! I cant' find libswresample in sid repos? Is it relay missing in debian ? |
| 10:40.42 | Sagar | Hello, anyone know how when will debian get official of apache2.4.7 official? |
| 10:41.09 | formorer | it already has 2.4.9 |
| 10:41.27 | Sagar | squeeze or wheezy? |
| 10:41.31 | formorer | jessie. |
| 10:41.36 | Sagar | :o |
| 10:41.43 | Sagar | is jessie good for server? |
| 10:41.44 | formorer | squeeze and wheezy are stable. no new versions for them. |
| 10:41.51 | formorer | no, it isn't released yet. |
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| 10:42.07 | cynicallemon | Sagar, no use wheezy |
| 10:42.08 | Sagar | i am asking for wheezy |
| 10:42.09 | nkuttler | ,v apache2 |
| 10:42.12 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.2.22-13+deb7u2; jessie: 2.4.9-2; sid: 2.4.9-2 |
| 10:42.35 | SynrGy | swi: i'm not sure what it is. there is libavresample1 ... |
| 10:42.43 | formorer | Sagar: as said. stable is stable. it never gets new versions of software. |
| 10:42.44 | SynrGy | ,v libavresample1 |
| 10:42.45 | judd | Package: libavresample1 on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 6:10.2-1; sid: 6:10.2-1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.2.4-dmo2; sid-multimedia: 10:2.2.4-dmo3 |
| 10:42.59 | SynrGy | swi: what problem are you trying to solve? |
| 10:43.18 | Sagar | What if i switch to ubuntu? |
| 10:43.28 | Sagar | i want a stable server with latest version of softwares |
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| 10:43.53 | formorer | Sagar: then debian is usually the wrong choice. and new things can't be tested properly. |
| 10:43.54 | babilen | Ubuntu trusty comes with Apache 2.4 |
| 10:43.58 | nkuttler | Sagar: that's impossible, no distro will give you that |
| 10:44.14 | babilen | Sagar: Why do you need Apache 2.4 ? |
| 10:44.20 | xar- | what package is file in |
| 10:44.23 | Sagar | some modules, rdns, cdn work |
| 10:44.24 | cynicallemon | Sagar, ubuntu isnt that current after 6 months |
| 10:44.28 | xar- | apt-cache is ugly |
| 10:44.29 | nkuttler | !tell xar- about apt-file |
| 10:44.38 | babilen | Sagar: "stable" in the context of Debian simply means "not changing" and has *nothing* to do with "works" or "bug free" or anything like that. |
| 10:44.50 | formorer | xar-: file. |
| 10:45.05 | xar- | I mean file the binary |
| 10:45.10 | formorer | me too |
| 10:45.19 | xar- | sry that was @nkuttler |
| 10:45.21 | xar- | thx |
| 10:45.25 | Sagar | see i have been running a large server using Debian 7 Wheezy since like past year or more. What it makes me block the way out is apache updates and other things. |
| 10:45.32 | SynrGy | swi: ffmpeg is replaced by libav. libav has libavresample1. ffmpeg has libswresample1. |
| 10:45.36 | swi | SynrGy: trying to start my Deponia :)) It's want libswresample.so.0 :) |
| 10:45.58 | nkuttler | Sagar: why do you think you need a newer apache? |
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| 10:46.12 | nkuttler | oh, never mind.. |
| 10:46.17 | SynrGy | swi: that's binary-only and requires ffmpeg? we can't help, then. |
| 10:46.25 | Sagar | nkuttler : [16:14] <Sagar> some modules, rdns, cdn work |
| 10:46.29 | nkuttler | Sagar: if you really really want a newer package, either go fishing for a backport or build your own |
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| 10:47.07 | cynicallemon | Sagar, if you want latest and greatest then best bet is Arch, FreeBSD, Alpine or LFS |
| 10:47.08 | swi | SynrGy: :) Seems like guys port their game to linux officialy in steam, but do not even tried start it :) Thanks |
| 10:47.32 | SynrGy | swi: or else they only tried on a system with ffmpeg. |
| 10:47.40 | Sagar | never tried any of them cynicallemon |
| 10:47.47 | SynrGy | swi: just becaus a game is ported to steam doesn't mean it runs on all platforms supporting steam. |
| 10:48.16 | SynrGy | because* |
| 10:48.25 | swi | SynrGy: well, i was guessing their primary Ubuntu must be checked, but there is a lot of 'game crash on start' reports in steam forum from ubuntu's users too :) |
| 10:48.56 | swi | 'll try to fake this stupid binary |
| 10:49.15 | SynrGy | swi: i guess the complaints need to reach the ears of the developers of the game for anything to be done. |
| 10:49.30 | SynrGy | swi: so ... find an appropriate contact address to gripe to? |
| 10:49.35 | some-cowbell | if the porting is done properly (i.e., with auto*) it will run on just about any *nix |
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| 10:50.13 | some-cowbell | if people try to cut corners with auto*, like trying to use it without understanding it, it won't |
| 10:50.21 | swi | mheee.. seems like they realy port it on some old crappy host |
| 10:50.42 | swi | version `LIBSWRESAMPLE_0' not found |
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| 10:51.16 | babilen | Sagar: If you want to run a webserver you *really* don't want to have too much work with it. All you care about is that it serves your content. I would strongly advise against using "rolling" distributions ... And then again: Why do you need Apache 2.4? |
| 10:51.35 | babilen | Sagar: And then nobody is stopping you from using Ubuntu trusty ... |
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| 10:51.40 | swi | SynrGy: and most funny thing that this game x86_64 only :) how can they do this :D |
| 10:52.13 | some-cowbell | why apache at all? unless all you're doing is serving static pages, there's better |
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| 10:52.32 | Sagar | Babilen: i want to get stick to debian though. It's the perfect distort till now. All i want is i can upgrade apache2 and some other packages by myself? |
| 10:53.07 | some-cowbell | then it really will be the perfect distort :) |
| 10:53.08 | babilen | Sagar: No, you can't. Wait for jessie and you will upgrade to 2.4 when you upgrade to that. |
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| 10:53.27 | Sagar | when will jessie release? |
| 10:53.39 | swi | Sagar: be a man, compile it from source :) |
| 10:53.50 | Nik05 | https://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html |
| 10:54.14 | Sagar | :o |
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| 10:54.42 | Nik05 | so 2015 somewhere ;) |
| 10:54.52 | Sagar | lol |
| 10:54.57 | Sagar | is wheezy upgradable to jessie? |
| 10:55.24 | Sagar | and what's more best with debian, i mean apache2 or nginx? |
| 10:55.33 | swi | i think it' upgradeable even to sid |
| 10:55.35 | babilen | Yes, every Debian release can be upgraded to the next one. The procedure is detailed in the release notes of the release you are upgrading to. |
| 10:55.51 | some-cowbell | Sagar, which do you want? |
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| 10:55.56 | babilen | Sagar: Why not lighttpd? And: "best for what?" |
| 10:56.17 | cynicallemon | nginx is best for commercial stuff |
| 10:56.26 | babilen | wut? |
| 10:56.30 | cynicallemon | lighttpd is good for most stuff |
| 10:56.33 | Sagar | babilen: my main concern is too host multiple websites with a realtime traffic of like 100K and i have to build CDN on it too. |
| 10:56.40 | some-cowbell | apache is probably the oldest still distributed by debian |
| 10:57.02 | workingcats | ok i got my first problem with building the backport.. as a dep of a dep of ekiga it wants doxygen-1.8.5-1 or higher so I did "dget -x http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/doxygen/doxygen_1.8.7-2.dsc" |
| 10:57.28 | some-cowbell | what's dget? |
| 10:57.37 | workingcats | but it says "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found". it worked for ekiga and libpt-dev however (also both from jessie) |
| 10:57.55 | workingcats | some-cowbell, to download source packages |
| 10:58.11 | workingcats | well not just source packages, but that's what i'm using it for |
| 10:58.18 | some-cowbell | oh, I thought apt-get source <srcname> did that |
| 10:58.34 | workingcats | yeah that does that, too. i'm following this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation |
| 10:58.44 | workingcats | it said to use dget so i used that. it also extracts it |
| 10:58.52 | some-cowbell | ahh |
| 10:59.03 | Sagar | anyone? |
| 10:59.04 | some-cowbell | , file bin/dget |
| 10:59.08 | judd | Search for bin/dget in wheezy/i386: devscripts: usr/bin/dget |
| 10:59.10 | Sagar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:00.01 | equex | jelly ah vboxmanager does the resize in cmd. just a quick backup and ill try :) |
| 11:00.02 | workingcats | Sagar, haven't verified this myself but people often advise against apache for high traffic |
| 11:00.03 | cynicallemon | Sagar, if it's serious CDN stuff then maybe a chat with Allan Jude over on FreeBSD channel if you can get him |
| 11:00.18 | babilen | Sagar: You really don't want to build your own CDN. You can use Apache, nginx and lighttpd for all of these and use some ha infrastructure (cf. http://www.linux-ha.org/wiki/Main_Page for example, or http://www.consul.io/) |
| 11:01.28 | some-cowbell | what's a CDN? |
| 11:01.37 | babilen | content delivery network |
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| 11:01.55 | Sagar | babilen: consuL?? |
| 11:02.01 | cynicallemon | some-cowbell, think of local caching |
| 11:02.07 | some-cowbell | so that could be a group of machines? |
| 11:02.17 | babilen | some-cowbell: You setup servers that proxy content in various datacentres around the globe and people accessing your content will get it from a "close" one |
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| 11:02.39 | some-cowbell | oh, ok |
| 11:02.45 | some-cowbell | like mirrors |
| 11:03.15 | babilen | That has, essentially, two effects: 1. Cached data does not have to be served by the original server over and over again (which reduces the load on that box) and 2. Content can be delivered faster as it is already "close" (in terms of hops) to the person requesting it |
| 11:03.16 | swi | MWAHAHA! |
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| 11:03.31 | swi | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.34 | swi | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.44 | babilen | Please do not paste into the channel |
| 11:03.50 | swi | hardcoded lib paths?! omg |
| 11:03.58 | swi | babilen: sorry :) |
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| 11:04.08 | some-cowbell | that's an strace |
| 11:04.08 | Sagar | swi: use a pastebin |
| 11:04.16 | swi | Sagar: ok :) |
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| 11:04.33 | Sagar | babilen: what's consul? |
| 11:04.46 | babilen | Did you read its website? |
| 11:04.51 | some-cowbell | you have it looking for libs in your home dir? |
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| 11:05.31 | swi | some-cowbell: and not in MY home dir :) it's their developers home dir as i understand :) |
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| 11:06.03 | some-cowbell | maybe that's how they have it ./configured |
| 11:06.04 | babilen | swi: Which Debian package is that software from? |
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| 11:06.34 | swi | babilen: it's not debian. It's Deponia game released for Linux in steam that i just bought yesterday :) |
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| 11:06.46 | vlt | Hello. For my block devices I'm using linear LVs on one PV on LUKS on a 6 disk raid10 md array. When reading/writing it looks usually like there's only one kworker (crypt) process running on one of my 6 cpu cores. Would changing the raid10 to three raid1 arrays with LUKS on top of each and striped LVs on those three md/LUKS devices as PVs increase r/w performance? |
| 11:06.59 | babilen | Well, it should be obvious that it is not supported in here. Feel free to share your tale in #debian-offtopic though. |
| 11:07.08 | babilen | swi: ^ |
| 11:07.44 | Sagar | is the way to update squeeze to wheezy? /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy to 7.5 |
| 11:07.44 | some-cowbell | I remember deponia |
| 11:08.32 | some-cowbell | yeah, probably. be sure you really want to do that upgrade tho. it WILL change things, and you may not like some of them |
| 11:08.34 | swi | babilen: sorry, i came to found out about those libs status and see such a thing in strace that make me to slap my face :) |
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| 11:09.37 | babilen | swi: Yes, I understand that, but #debian-offtopic is simply the better channel for sharing your adventures :) |
| 11:10.12 | swi | babilen: ok :) |
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| 11:10.23 | some-cowbell | I turned left and stepped forward a step... did that 4 times... and ended up where I started! |
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| 11:10.55 | frostschutz | vlt, one way to find out. it's certainly possible, as long as you do not increase the total encryption work (e.g. as putting LUKS under md would do, as you'd encrypt redundancy data too) |
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| 11:11.45 | frostschutz | vlt, if you encrypt individual LV instead of the entire PV/VG, it might help performance as long as there is work being done on different LV |
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| 11:14.35 | Sagar | some-cowbell: chan things like? |
| 11:15.00 | vlt | frostschutz: Ok, thank you. (I need a way to do all changes w/o downtime, so encrypting every single LV is not only annoying but not really possible.) |
| 11:15.36 | some-cowbell | it might overwrite your configs, which might be necessary, it might remove things you want, install things you don't... stuff like that |
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| 11:17.07 | some-cowbell | when you're going from a released debian (like squeeze) to the next released debian (like wheezy), it usually works fine, but can still have any of those effects |
| 11:18.27 | Sagar | Install these packages without verification [y/N]? |
| 11:18.45 | frostschutz | vlt, oh. good luck. if luks performance is really important, consider aes-ni. |
| 11:18.46 | some-cowbell | so you don't have debian-archive-keyring installed |
| 11:19.09 | colo-work | are there wheezy installation media available for amd64 that have the backports kernel available? |
| 11:19.42 | some-cowbell | do you need the backports kernel in the process of installing? |
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| 11:20.23 | vlt | googles aes-ni |
| 11:21.41 | some-cowbell | colo-work: what is the problem when you install with the standard kernel? |
| 11:21.50 | colo-work | some-cowbell, hardware too new, won't work |
| 11:21.59 | some-cowbell | hmm |
| 11:22.13 | colo-work | (the CentOS 7 kernel boots fine, which is why I'd like to gibe the bpo kernel a whirl) |
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| 11:23.28 | some-cowbell | colo-work: what's a pciid of one of the chipsets that's too new? |
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| 11:24.27 | some-cowbell | usually judd will make some extra suggestions, depending on if it knows about them |
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| 11:25.08 | colo-work | well, the kernel _boots_, it's just that my peripherals (keyboard, mouse) won't work once the system is up. |
| 11:25.24 | Jn_Kell | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.25 | some-cowbell | oh, are they usb? |
| 11:25.48 | vlt | frostschutz: The kernel says it's an "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5645" and there's an "aes" flag. What does this tell me? |
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| 11:26.17 | some-cowbell | always eat spinach |
| 11:26.22 | vlt | frostschutz: The kernel module I load is aes_x86_64 |
| 11:26.57 | some-cowbell | colo-work: what version is the centos kernel? |
| 11:27.18 | colo-work | some-cowbell, 3.10.something (plus rhel patches; you know how they work...) |
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| 11:27.26 | babilen | colo-work: There are *still* no images with backported kernels available. Feel free to ask #debian-kernel on irc.oftc.net for an ETA |
| 11:27.27 | equex | nois. vm doublsize |
| 11:28.03 | colo-work | are there any other install media with more recent kernel releases available? for jessie or experimental? |
| 11:28.13 | colo-work | (and can I install wheezy from them without resorting to debootstrap?) |
| 11:29.18 | some-cowbell | colo-work: is this for colo work? |
| 11:29.40 | some-cowbell | or home box? or? |
| 11:29.50 | Sagar | Install these packages without verification [y/N]? |
| 11:29.53 | Sagar | what should i do? |
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| 11:29.58 | colo-work | some-cowbell, a home box |
| 11:30.11 | some-cowbell | Sagar, install debian-archive-keyring |
| 11:30.12 | babilen | Sagar: Provide more details on http://paste.debian.net |
| 11:30.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell Sagar -about bat |
| 11:30.24 | Sagar | babilen: i just followed |
| 11:30.25 | SynrG | colo-work: can you ssh in to the system after it is up? |
| 11:30.28 | Sagar | > /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 11:31.18 | colo-work | SynrG, I haven't tried. I wouldn't know how to configure the installer to enable the istallation-time sshd in an unattended manner, anyhow |
| 11:31.19 | SynrG | colo-work: if so, that could be a way to get it up and running with a backports kernel after the initial install |
| 11:31.44 | SynrG | colo-work: before rebooting, after the initial install, you can also drop to shell and chroot into the new system ... |
| 11:32.00 | SynrG | colo-work: you could configure it with backports and install whatever you need |
| 11:32.11 | SynrG | that is, assuming you get that far |
| 11:32.30 | some-cowbell | SynrG: how does he start with (say) 3.10.x kernel? |
| 11:33.02 | SynrG | maybe i misread. is it failing after the install, or failing *to* install? |
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| 11:33.18 | SynrG | obviously, this won't help if the installer has no keyboard/mouse ;) |
| 11:33.26 | some-cowbell | I think the "old" kernels fail to boot on his system |
| 11:33.39 | SynrG | he said the kernel does boot |
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| 11:34.09 | some-cowbell | oh right, and the kbdmouse fails after everything comes up |
| 11:34.20 | halothe23 | How can one permanently set ulimit -n ? |
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| 11:34.44 | SynrG | yes, and my question is, is that during an install, or first boot after install? just not clear on that. |
| 11:34.53 | Sagar | babilen: ??? |
| 11:35.11 | caraconan | Hi there. Do somebody suggests a good desktop video capture recording software? Tried istanbul, but crashed on first try, so I would like to try another one. Thanks |
| 11:35.18 | some-cowbell | got it... and I don't actually know |
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| 11:36.05 | Sagar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:36.26 | frostschutz | vlt, do you have a module aesni-intel? if loaded, and supported by your hardware, grep aesni /proc/crypto should return something |
| 11:37.49 | babilen | Sagar: Did you paste the requested information to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 11:38.03 | Sagar | babilen: i solve that issue |
| 11:38.12 | Sagar | my problem is this now: Network interfaces on which the DHCPv6 client sends requests should be specified here. Multiple interfaces are separated with spaces. An empty line temporarily disables dhcp6c. Interfaces on which the DHCPv6 client s |
| 11:38.14 | vlt | frostschutz: No, not for my current kernel :-( But thanks for the hint! |
| 11:38.38 | vlt | frostschutz: I think I'll try a newer one and aesni_intel |
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| 11:38.49 | vlt | first. |
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| 11:39.43 | vlt | Introducing downtime, of course o_O |
| 11:40.53 | colo-work | SynrG, during the install |
| 11:41.06 | colo-work | the kbd works just fine in the bootloader |
| 11:41.16 | colo-work | as soon as the first d-i dialog comes up, it's dead |
| 11:41.45 | some-cowbell | how do you start an ssh install? |
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| 11:47.24 | Sagar | The following packages have been kept back: |
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| 11:47.26 | Sagar | ? |
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| 11:52.37 | colo-work | some-cowbell, I don't know how |
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| 11:52.59 | colo-work | (well, I know how to continue over ssh once I've done a few keystrokes in d-i's installation menu, but that's it) |
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| 12:10.17 | colo-work | SynrG, fwiw, the daily jessie snapshot netinstall CD image works fine |
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| 12:10.34 | colo-work | so a wheezy d-i with backported kernel would probably also work |
| 12:10.41 | SynrGy | colo-work: sure, but not recommended for production use |
| 12:10.44 | SynrGy | yep |
| 12:10.48 | SynrGy | if someone ever made one |
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| 12:11.33 | sandman13 | do I need to rerun this command after installing firmware-iwlwifi for the kernel in backports? Command: modprobe -r iwlwifi; modprobe iwlwifi |
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| 12:11.54 | colo-work | sandman13, probably, yes |
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| 12:12.21 | sandman13 | colo-work: I am getting error that iwlwifi is already in use |
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| 12:13.15 | babilen | sandman13: You might have to reboot even (could be part of initramfs) |
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| 12:13.22 | rgammans | sandman13: you'll need to 'ifconfig down ' the itnerface first |
| 12:13.30 | sandman13 | oh |
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| 12:14.08 | daemonkeeper | Everytime people say "ifconfig", god kills a kitten |
| 12:14.17 | SirLagz | ifconfig |
| 12:14.36 | SynrGy | daemonkeeper: ipconfig ... did god kill two? :) |
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| 12:14.42 | babilen | sandman13: Please use "ip link set wlan0 down" |
| 12:14.48 | daemonkeeper | Most likely, and you're to blame SynrGy! |
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| 12:19.19 | workingcats | looking at the instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation, am i right in assuming that "test if we can successfully build the package" (with fakeroot, before dpkg-buildpackage) is optional? |
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| 12:26.37 | SynrGy | workingcats: it is redundant, yes. might save you time if the non-binary build steps are super lengthy and the binary build fails |
| 12:27.00 | SynrGy | workingcats: then you can iterate on fixing issues until it builds the binary cleanly. |
| 12:28.19 | workingcats | SynrG, ok, cheers |
| 12:28.29 | workingcats | its just that i had built the package on a system with the wrong arch *coughs* |
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| 12:28.36 | workingcats | so now it's waiting time ;) |
| 12:28.43 | Sagar | how can i update apache2.22.2 in debian wheezy 7 to the latest version? |
| 12:29.01 | workingcats | Sagar, you mean the latest upstream version? |
| 12:29.09 | sandman13 | I am getting same error: FATAL: iwlwifi is already in use |
| 12:29.20 | Sagar | workingcats: i mean the latest stable apache2 version |
| 12:29.26 | jelly | ,v apache2 |
| 12:29.27 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.2.22-13+deb7u2; jessie: 2.4.9-2; sid: 2.4.9-2 |
| 12:29.42 | jelly | Sagar: that is the latest for debian 7. |
| 12:29.48 | workingcats | Sagar, apt-get update && apt-get install apache |
| 12:30.02 | SynrGy | Sagar: what problem are you trying to solve? |
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| 12:30.19 | jelly | workingcats: there is no package named "apache" in debian 7 |
| 12:30.27 | Sagar | see the package provided by wheezy is apache2.22.2 |
| 12:30.46 | Sagar | i want to install the latest package i.e 2.4.9 i think |
| 12:30.47 | workingcats | jelly, s/apache/apache2 |
| 12:30.57 | jelly | Sagar: what are you missing in 2.2.22 ? |
| 12:31.02 | workingcats | Sagar, as noted, the stable for debian 7 is 2.2.22. |
| 12:31.17 | Sagar | jelly: i am missing some support modules and other things |
| 12:31.19 | jelly | workingcats: is there an echo in here |
| 12:31.33 | workingcats | jelly, i don't know, is there? |
| 12:31.50 | Sagar | workingcats: any manual installs? |
| 12:31.55 | workingcats | Sagar, check backports, if there isnt a newer version in there then you can make one yourself: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation |
| 12:32.05 | jelly | Sagar: which ones exactly? |
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| 12:32.28 | Sagar | 2.4.9 (the most latest stable by apache) |
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| 12:33.29 | jelly | Sagar: which "support modules" do you need that are not present in 2.2, I mean? |
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| 12:33.55 | Sagar | mod cdn, mod script injection etc. |
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| 12:35.58 | jelly | Sagar: I don't see mod_cdn in http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/ |
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| 12:36.35 | jelly | Sagar: are you saying you're unable to build http://agile.internap.com/mod-cdn with apache 2.2 from debian 7? |
| 12:37.06 | Sagar | jelly: server side injection? |
| 12:37.29 | jelly | Sagar: do you have the exact module name for that? |
| 12:38.06 | Sagar | its not a script actually |
| 12:38.08 | daemonkeeper | You do not want to backport Apache 2.4 to Wheezy. |
| 12:38.30 | Sagar | its a way to inject a particular script on all the domains on specific server. That needs seprate config instead of a module |
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| 12:39.27 | jelly | Sagar: how is this done on 2.4 that can't be done on 2.2? |
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| 12:39.42 | Sagar | this is what i asked in httpd |
| 12:39.43 | jelly | (or, how is this done on 2.4 at all) |
| 12:39.48 | Sagar | and i got the answer very long |
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| 12:40.04 | daemonkeeper | 2.4 uses slightly different APIs for modules. If upstream is lazy he didn't port it to older API versions. |
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| 12:40.12 | daemonkeeper | Because cool kids update their stuff every week. |
| 12:40.35 | daemonkeeper | Not that I'd trust such an upstream. |
| 12:40.44 | sec | heh |
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| 12:41.18 | jelly | Sagar: well, both packaging and building of 2.4 has changed from 2.2, it would be a pain to backport it for debian 7. If you can't do with 2.2, I suggest using a different distro or building from source. |
| 12:42.19 | workingcats | daemonkeeper, well API changes are the thing you dont want to be backporting ;) |
| 12:42.20 | daemonkeeper | Or upgrade to Jessie or use a 2.4 chroot |
| 12:42.22 | jelly | Sagar: eg. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (codename unity) has 2.4.7 |
| 12:42.45 | jelly | no. Jessie has no security support, I'd strongly advise against that. |
| 12:42.54 | babilen | That came up a really quite sime time ago .. |
| 12:43.12 | Sagar | >.< |
| 12:43.22 | daemonkeeper | jelly: And 14.04 has crappy packages ;) |
| 12:43.22 | babilen | Sagar: There really is no need to ask the same question in here every six hours. The answers will be the same: No 2.4 on wheezy. |
| 12:43.25 | Sagar | I want to get sticked to Debian with updated packages |
| 12:43.36 | jelly | daemonkeeper: at least they have security support. |
| 12:44.06 | daemonkeeper | Apache de-facto has security support, too. |
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| 12:44.24 | jelly | daemonkeeper: telling people to deploy testing is horrible advice IMHO, even ubuntu lts is better than that |
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| 12:45.47 | Sagar | Can i install 2.4 apache from backport? |
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| 12:46.51 | jelly | Sagar: there is no backport of apache 2.4 |
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| 12:51.11 | daemonkeeper | jelly: I didn't say one should deploy Testing. I said, de-facto, Apache has security support in Testing. |
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| 12:52.20 | jelly | daemonkeeper: you said to either upgrade to testing, or use a chroot |
| 12:52.35 | jelly | user said they had an already working site |
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| 12:53.10 | daemonkeeper | That's an alternative to have Apache 2.4 and Debian. |
| 12:53.14 | jelly | that, to me, sounds like "deploy testing, either for the whole OS or for a chroot" |
| 12:53.29 | daemonkeeper | Yes. If you want both, Debian and 2.4, that's about it. |
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| 12:53.56 | daemonkeeper | Whether that's a good idea or not ... |
| 12:54.49 | jelly | well, the idea of a support channel probably isn't giving out bad ideas... |
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| 12:56.58 | workingcats | well there's nothing wrong with mentioning questionable alternatives with a warning |
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| 12:59.08 | jelly | yes, that's fine |
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| 12:59.59 | SynrGy | although when someone of apparent elevated skill makes a questionable alternative with a warning, an impressionable user might not heed the warning and go ahead and do something stupid based on that advice ... |
| 13:00.48 | PrinceAMD | hi guys, justed install apache/php/mysql and i'm getting this error "Fatal error: Class 'PDO'", any idea how to fix this? |
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| 13:00.55 | SynrGy | arguably, this is the user's fault, but i tend to have more of a sense of responsibility towards impressionable users, and therefore am likely to not make such advice unless i have a clear sense the user is likely to treat my warning with proper weight |
| 13:01.09 | workingcats | well i can only speak for myself, but if someone who clearly knows much mroe than me about the topic gives a warning, especially when it's explained, i tend to listen ;) |
| 13:01.16 | SynrGy | we've gone all meta, though, and should take it to #debian-offtopic :) |
| 13:01.22 | workingcats | yeah |
| 13:01.26 | workingcats | sorry |
| 13:01.31 | SynrGy | np. my fault too |
| 13:01.44 | SynrGy | PrinceAMD: on debian wheey? |
| 13:01.48 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 13:01.50 | SynrGy | wheezy* aka |
| 13:01.54 | SynrGy | ok |
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| 13:02.18 | SynrGy | PrinceAMD: fresh install of debian + lamp stack? |
| 13:02.20 | PrinceAMD | weird, because it never happened before, not on my other servers / |
| 13:02.24 | SynrGy | hm |
| 13:02.39 | SynrGy | standard debian install, not some custom VPS-provided image? |
| 13:02.44 | PrinceAMD | not a fresh install, yesterday i fucked it up by installing nginx... |
| 13:02.56 | PrinceAMD | i did the install (debian netinst) |
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| 13:03.55 | SynrGy | PrinceAMD: is that something your application needs, maybe? |
| 13:04.09 | SynrGy | i.e. is that just the unconfigured lamp stack complaining, or did you put a web app on it? |
| 13:04.39 | PrinceAMD | web app in user_dir |
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| 13:05.40 | SynrGy | ok. so it may be that the web app requires components not in debian |
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| 13:06.27 | LiENUS | is there a good solution for headless dvd ripping on a debian server? ie insert dvd and it rips then ejects it? maybe even auto encode to mkv split episodic content up via a later running cron? |
| 13:06.27 | SynrGy | hummm ... or just not enabled? |
| 13:06.36 | SynrGy | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19909574/php-fatal-error-class-pdo-not-found-using-laravel4 |
| 13:07.05 | SynrGy | PrinceAMD: apt-file search pdo.so finds: |
| 13:07.06 | SynrGy | php5-common: /usr/lib/php5/20100525+lfs/pdo.so |
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| 13:07.48 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 13:07.59 | SynrGy | and: |
| 13:07.59 | SynrGy | ls /etc/php5/mods-available/ |
| 13:08.00 | SynrGy | curl.ini mysqli.ini mysql.ini pdo.ini pdo_mysql.ini pdo_pgsql.ini pgsql.ini |
| 13:08.01 | PrinceAMD | that is installed |
| 13:08.07 | SynrGy | so perhaps: php5enmod pdo |
| 13:08.13 | PrinceAMD | mcrypt.ini mysqli.ini mysql.ini mysqlnd.ini pdo_mysql.ini |
| 13:08.15 | PrinceAMD | trying |
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| 13:08.32 | SynrGy | pdo_mysql.ini but no pdo.ini? |
| 13:08.37 | PrinceAMD | WARNING: /etc/php5/mods-available/pdo.ini does not exist. |
| 13:08.38 | PrinceAMD | WARNING: You might have removed it manually, not touching the module. |
| 13:08.38 | PrinceAMD | WARNING: If you want to re-enable the module pdo, |
| 13:08.38 | PrinceAMD | WARNING: you will have to reinstall the pdo.ini from /usr/share/php5 |
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| 13:08.48 | PrinceAMD | ops |
| 13:08.54 | PrinceAMD | WARNING: /etc/php5/mods-available/pdo.ini does not exist |
| 13:09.10 | SynrGy | apt-cache policy php5-common |
| 13:09.15 | SynrGy | which php5-common? mine definitely has it |
| 13:09.16 | PrinceAMD | SynrG, i dont have pdo.ini |
| 13:09.18 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 13:09.24 | SynrGy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.27 | PrinceAMD | ok, i should reinstall |
| 13:09.36 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.40 | PrinceAMD | same version |
| 13:09.40 | SynrGy | reinstall why? did you do something horribly wrong? |
| 13:09.52 | SynrGy | same version? did you make a cut-and-paste error? |
| 13:09.55 | SynrGy | i see u1, not u11 |
| 13:09.58 | PrinceAMD | i mean reinstall php? |
| 13:10.05 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.18 | PrinceAMD | i have a newer version 12? |
| 13:10.49 | SynrGy | seems i haven't upgraded in a while ... |
| 13:11.07 | SynrGy | upgrading to u12 |
| 13:11.21 | PrinceAMD | Creating config file /etc/php5/mods-available/pdo.ini with new version :D |
| 13:11.28 | PrinceAMD | reinstalled php5-common :) |
| 13:11.33 | SynrGy | oh geez |
| 13:11.37 | SynrGy | wtf did you do there? |
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| 13:12.21 | PrinceAMD | SynrG, i apt-get remove --purge php5-common and reinstall it |
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| 13:13.29 | SynrGy | PrinceAMD: no, i mean the first time |
| 13:13.35 | SynrGy | PrinceAMD: that got it into that state |
| 13:13.43 | SynrGy | PrinceAMD: see /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-common |
| 13:14.01 | SynrGy | it should've handled all that automatically when the package was configured. did you fail to configure it? |
| 13:14.03 | PrinceAMD | i kinda installed a 3rd party php5 5.5 :/ |
| 13:14.05 | SynrGy | did you have any apt errors? |
| 13:14.11 | SynrGy | bad boy. bad, bad boy. |
| 13:14.12 | PrinceAMD | totally fucked the server up |
| 13:14.31 | SynrGy | not just for doing it, but failing to disclose |
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| 13:15.01 | PrinceAMD | i figured if i did, i would not get the super help i just did |
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| 13:15.41 | SynrGy | if you were trying to undo your mistake and install pure debian components, i would have helped. |
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| 13:15.57 | SynrGy | i wouldn't have helped try to make the third party php5 work, you're right about that. |
| 13:16.04 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 13:16.12 | SynrGy | please be respectful to the helpers and don't conceal important info |
| 13:16.36 | SynrGy | if you repeatedly abuse us, you'll find it increasingly difficult to get help :p |
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| 13:17.13 | PrinceAMD | sorry SynrG |
| 13:17.20 | PrinceAMD | sorry SynrGy |
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| 13:17.32 | SynrGy | just don't do it again |
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| 13:18.36 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 13:19.16 | PrinceAMD | i can finally do some work now, took just over an hour to get the server back up, and less than 5min to totally break it |
| 13:19.53 | SynrGy | lesson learned, avoid unproven 3rd-party crap on production servers |
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| 13:20.44 | SynrGy | or s/on production servers// |
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| 13:22.01 | Cpuroast | SynrGy: or take a snapshot before trying something iffy |
| 13:22.02 | Cpuroast | :) |
| 13:22.43 | {LuKi} | Anybody can help me with Linux? |
| 13:23.02 | SynrGy | {LuKi}: not likely, unless it's debian |
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| 13:23.09 | PrinceAMD | yeah, the thing is i dont have access to do make snapshot |
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| 13:23.25 | Cpuroast | ah |
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| 13:25.30 | {LuKi} | I need someone to help me make a firewall server |
| 13:26.01 | {LuKi} | Using Ubuntu is possible? |
| 13:26.17 | brightkill | {LuKi}, no |
| 13:26.29 | brightkill | Ubuntu is impossible. |
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| 13:26.39 | {LuKi} | Why? |
| 13:26.55 | LiENUS | {LuKi}, make for to the be too little scenario much complicate |
| 13:27.10 | babilen | {LuKi}: You can use Ubuntu, but you would have to seek support in #ubuntu or ##linux channels. |
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| 13:29.09 | {LuKi} | Understand LiENUS and babilen thank you |
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| 13:29.30 | LiENUS | glad i could be of er help |
| 13:29.44 | SynrGy | brightkill, LiENUS: better to do a quick redirect to the right channel instead of dragging it out, though. |
| 13:30.13 | LiENUS | SynrG, he was redirected already |
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| 13:30.37 | secguy | Free OpenVPN for 5 days - http://vpn.scay.net/ |
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| 13:32.52 | jelly | ,i openvpn |
| 13:32.53 | judd | Package openvpn (net, optional) in wheezy/i386: virtual private network daemon. Version: 2.2.1-8+deb7u2; Size: 505.2k; Installed: 1112k; Homepage: http://www.openvpn.net/ |
| 13:33.01 | jelly | ^^ free OpenVPN, forever |
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| 13:33.32 | r-x-w- | I am genius. |
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| 13:35.37 | JyZyXEL | is it possible to have an entry in the uefi grub boot menu that takes you to the uefi bios configuration? |
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| 13:37.56 | dcpc007 | hello |
| 13:38.19 | dcpc007 | do you keep the default umask for root or can i safely change to 027 (or 007) ? |
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| 13:38.59 | dcpc007 | i just create applicative account avec removed "other" rights on its files, but seen that default conf for root make all new files readable by the world ... |
| 13:39.18 | dcpc007 | seem strange that admin data could be less secure than user data |
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| 13:39.49 | ksk | dcpc007: sure you can alter roots umask, i do so on my servers, too |
| 13:39.58 | workingcats | okay so i have a problem with my backport build of libopal-dev (dep of ekiga). trying to build jessie's version for wheezy. |
| 13:40.30 | workingcats | i *think* not running the libav10.patch might solve it, would it be enough to move that file away for it to be left out of the build process? |
| 13:40.46 | workingcats | i've never made any kind of deb package before so sorry if it's a dumb question.. |
| 13:41.09 | workingcats | also i meant "build dep of ekiga" |
| 13:41.42 | PrinceAMD | hi guys, how can i downgrade a package to a particular version? http://paste.debian.net/109201/ (apt-cache policy info) |
| 13:42.03 | dcpc007 | ksk no risk on some operations to remove all right for "others" |
| 13:42.25 | PrinceAMD | i want to use 5.4.4-14+deb7u12 instead of the 5.5 3rd party one i have installed |
| 13:42.31 | dcpc007 | debian default are well done usually |
| 13:42.52 | ksk | dcpc007: yes sure there is some risk, but in general all files needed by others (like lets say /etc/passwd) already exists and wont get altered if you just edit them with new umask |
| 13:43.04 | workingcats | PrinceAMD, uninstalling the 5.5 and removing its files/repos should be enough i think, after that just install the normal package from the standard repo again |
| 13:43.05 | dcpc007 | /var/log has some files are world-readable |
| 13:43.37 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 13:43.46 | dcpc007 | i just create working users, and set umask to 007, then now, only root creat "public" files, it's strange :) |
| 13:45.00 | workingcats | PrinceAMD, should probably purge the 3rd party package. assuming it was a package. might be worth running this, too, to check for leftovers: cd /etc && find | grep -i php |
| 13:45.22 | PrinceAMD | alright |
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| 13:47.29 | d33tah | hi folks, is there a package that contains the netem kernel module? |
| 13:47.41 | d33tah | i'd rather not have to build one myself |
| 13:48.05 | d33tah | ah, sorry, i mistyped its name, got it now |
| 13:49.55 | workingcats | ok, to answer my own question, it's not enough |
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| 13:52.39 | workingcats | ok my workaround to deactivate a patch is to after dget is finished run patch -R to revert the patch, then move the file somewhere out of the way, and then re-try fakeroot |
| 13:52.44 | workingcats | is there a better way? |
| 13:53.03 | workingcats | (this is still for my backporting adventure) |
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| 13:59.33 | workingcats | oh also i think i found a missing version requirement in a jessie package.. however, i assume that in jessie the requirement is met. but if you backport (or if, for whatever reason, jessie's version is downgraded) you run into it. is this considered a bug in debian, or just superfluous information? |
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| 14:03.58 | somiaj | workingcats: if a package cannot be easily backported to wheezy it woudln't be considered a bug in debian, since debian makes no claim all packages can be backported. Also have you looked into quilt, that is how most patches are handeled in debian packages. |
| 14:04.54 | somiaj | you should also read the debian new matainers guide if you haven't made debian packages before, there is a chapter on using quilt to manage pathces |
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| 14:05.09 | workingcats | somiaj, well getting the compile to work was trivial, just had to revert that one patch (and obv ensure deps are present). no not aware of quilt, this is my first experience with messing with debian packages |
| 14:05.13 | workingcats | ah yes |
| 14:05.27 | workingcats | cheers |
| 14:06.47 | somiaj | I haven't messed with it that much, but I belive you can tell quilt to remove patches foo from teh patch list, then compile from that. |
| 14:06.50 | jelly | it might be worth a wishlist bugs to make other people doing the backport of the same thing happy |
| 14:07.34 | jelly | ... if it's just a refinement of an existing dependency with a (>= version) |
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| 14:08.32 | somiaj | workingcats: I almost see an XY problem here, why are you backporting a -dev libary, is this part of what is needed to backport the actual piece of software you need? |
| 14:08.41 | workingcats | somiaj, yep |
| 14:09.17 | workingcats | ekiga-4 build deps include a newer libpt-dev and libopal-dev, and libpt-dev in turn also needs a newer doxygen |
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| 14:09.34 | workingcats | tho i'm up to compiling ekiga now |
| 14:10.07 | workingcats | jelly, i'll submit it to the backports ML anyways |
| 14:10.27 | workingcats | come to think of it, i should probably check the log of that, maybe someone already went through this |
| 14:10.36 | somiaj | workingcats: note you may want to be doing the build in a chroot, (: |
| 14:10.43 | somiaj | pbuilder is a nice tool too |
| 14:11.23 | workingcats | somiaj, good point, need to note that i did not do that |
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| 14:11.52 | nabblet | hi, i have a laptop with debian 7 on it. the setup is quite minimal (fluxbox gui) but somehow my hdd always spinns on and off (even when idle). that's my ps -A http://paste.debian.net/109209/ |
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| 14:12.57 | nabblet | i don't think this beahviour is healthy for the hdd or battery life time... on top of that it's quite annoying |
| 14:13.41 | workingcats | nabblet, does it happen at a particular frequency? |
| 14:13.46 | somiaj | nabblet: do you happen to be pushing memory limits and are using your swap partition? There is a program called iotop you can use to look at what is reading from the hd, maybe isolate what is causing it to spin up |
| 14:13.48 | workingcats | if it e.g. happens every hour i would suspect cron |
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| 14:14.04 | workingcats | ah excellent idea on iotop. there's also powertop but i have no idea if it'll be useful for your case |
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| 14:15.22 | nabblet | workingcats: somiaj htop says 140/2016MB, swap is 0MB. the frequency is roughly 5 seconds spinning, 1 second no spin |
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| 14:15.37 | workingcats | oh THAT often |
| 14:15.53 | nabblet | workingcats: yes :( |
| 14:15.58 | nabblet | installing iotop |
| 14:16.05 | workingcats | well first i'd make a backup just in case the drive is dying or something.. also, you should always have backups in any case, but who does ;) |
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| 14:16.18 | nabblet | workingcats: i have :) |
| 14:16.23 | nabblet | daily |
| 14:16.32 | workingcats | nice |
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| 14:17.24 | somiaj | workingcats: I have seen enough people loose their data that I know better, and yet I find I backup once every 3-4 months...:( |
| 14:17.40 | workingcats | somiaj, i'm just gonna be quiet... |
| 14:17.53 | dec4n | Hi everyone, I'd like to know how to upgrade my OS from 6.0 to 6.0.9 |
| 14:17.58 | nabblet | somiaj: workingcats use drivish... before that i didn't do it either, although i knew better. |
| 14:18.22 | workingcats | nabblet, problem is i need to buy a few TB of storage before i can even have one full backup |
| 14:18.22 | dec4n | I'm trying with apt-get dist-upgrade but still is in 6.0 |
| 14:18.25 | SynrGy | dec4n: how long has it been in that state, and was it exposed to the internet during that time? |
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| 14:18.37 | SynrGy | dec4n: what are you using to determine what version it is? |
| 14:18.47 | borg2 | workingcats: Do you need backup of all of that? |
| 14:18.50 | nabblet | don't be afraid by the raw website of its creator, but dirvish is awesome. i fitls exactly the needs of those "better than noobs but don't want enterprise backup solution" guys |
| 14:19.10 | SynrGy | dec4n: is that's what is in /etc/debian_version? |
| 14:19.12 | somiaj | dec4n: did you read the wheezy insatll guide, you may want to read over it so you can be prepared for common/known upgrade issues |
| 14:19.16 | somiaj | dec4n: also read this factoid |
| 14:19.19 | workingcats | borg2, no but i'm a bit of a perfectionist sometimes ;) |
| 14:19.19 | nabblet | workingcats: i only backup my home and /etc |
| 14:19.30 | somiaj | !tell dec4n about squeeze->wheezy |
| 14:19.33 | workingcats | but i guess i could at least start backing up my keepassx DB regularly |
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| 14:19.48 | SynrGy | dec4n: and yes, what somiaj said. upgrading to 7.5 is better. |
| 14:20.03 | SynrGy | dec4n: any particular reason you have to stay at squeeze? |
| 14:20.19 | dec4n | SynrGy: I just installed it, it is for a board like beaglebone |
| 14:20.36 | dec4n | The OS came specifically for my board |
| 14:20.47 | somiaj | oh he wants to upgrade to 6.0.X not wheezy my mistake. Have you taken into account that you have to configure your sources for the lts repo now? |
| 14:20.48 | workingcats | nabblet, you mean this one? http://www.dirvish.org/ |
| 14:20.49 | borg2 | workingcats: I think you should consider what you need and don't need, ex it may not be worth backing up a 4 year old movie :) |
| 14:20.55 | dec4n | should I to upgrade to 7.5? |
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| 14:20.59 | somiaj | dec4n: did you apt-get update? |
| 14:21.09 | SynrGy | dec4n: sounds like it's not debian at all but a derivative |
| 14:21.18 | workingcats | that site looks a lot better than most of x.org ^^ |
| 14:21.18 | nabblet | ok, looking at iotop there comes up jbd2/sda1-8 in the same frequence as the spins, so i will investigate this |
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| 14:21.32 | somiaj | dec4n: I would suggest you run wheezy unless you have a very paticular reason to be using squeeze-lts. If this is a desktop system you want wheezy, some server stuff is being supported via squeeze-lts though. |
| 14:21.34 | workingcats | nabblet, those are kernel processes i think |
| 14:22.00 | SynrGy | dec4n: does your /etc/apt/sources.list point at standard repos, or at the vendor's own site? |
| 14:22.02 | nabblet | workingcats: yes (website). the nice thing is, that is will do backup rotation and all that for you. it works over network |
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| 14:22.15 | SynrGy | dec4n: some boards lack support for wheezy and later, and upgrading to wheezy can seriously break your system. |
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| 14:22.54 | nabblet | workingcats: very very very handy combinaiton of rsync and things like that. the backups will look like normal folders to you. storage will be saved via hardlinks for unchanged files, and so on |
| 14:22.56 | dec4n | SynrGy: yes, it points to official Squeeze repos |
| 14:22.58 | SynrGy | dec4n: so before attempting a wheezy upgrade, i would check your board vendor doc and make sure it is possible |
| 14:23.02 | SynrGy | ok |
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| 14:23.29 | SynrGy | so if you could search the web and make sure your board is actually supported by later debian releases, that would be a good first step |
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| 14:24.08 | nabblet | workingcats: [jbd2/sda1-8] <- exact nam |
| 14:24.08 | dec4n | SynrGy: Yes, I think the same, so I decided just upgrade to the latest version keeping Squeeze in the system |
| 14:24.11 | nabblet | *name |
| 14:24.37 | dec4n | And actually I just did, doing /etc/debian_version already appears 6.0.9 |
| 14:24.39 | workingcats | nabblet, ah yes that's what i need |
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| 14:25.09 | dec4n | Thank you SynrGy and somiaj |
| 14:25.32 | SynrGy | dec4n: great |
| 14:25.45 | nabblet | workingcats: i looked for a suitable backup solution a long time... a friend of mine hinted it to me, after reading about it in a book(!)... i think dirvish is undervalued a lot |
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| 14:27.51 | nabblet | workingcats: as it seems this jbd is related to journaling |
| 14:28.19 | workingcats | nabblet, hm you could turn journaling off. but that's a very stupid idea generally speaking. |
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| 14:29.08 | mlkjoy | hello. Is there a way to update openssl without using apt-get upgrade, I mean directly from the source code ? |
| 14:29.10 | nabblet | workingcats: it's ext4. i have no intention to turn off journaling |
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| 14:29.31 | somiaj | nabblet: that seems werid that the journaling process is causing the problems, maybe that is what you see doing most of the hd access, but something else is actually changing things causing it to need to journal the changes. |
| 14:29.58 | somiaj | mlkjoy: why do you want to do that? |
| 14:30.00 | nabblet | somiaj: thought about this too... but i don't see anything else in iotop... |
| 14:30.19 | r-x-w- | on the subject of /etc/apt/sources.list: Can anyone tell me what the difference between wheezy/updates and wheezy-updates? |
| 14:30.23 | mlkjoy | somiaj: I am having issue to install openssl on the system wide, if you see what I mean. |
| 14:30.38 | somiaj | mlkjoy: you can of course compile you own software on your system, but to do so and keep it in line with debian packages (and the debian packages that depend on openssl) would require some work. |
| 14:31.05 | somiaj | mlkjoy: as in there should be little reason you need to insatll a custom openssl lib. Why do you need a custom openssl lib on your system? |
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| 14:31.46 | somiaj | mlkjoy: and with all the security bugs in openssl lately, I would suggest just using the package provided by security and not a custom one. (: |
| 14:32.23 | mlkjoy | mlkjoy: after compiling, etc, it doesn't replace the previous openssl I had. I need to perform some tests on the library, but so far after compiling I only get an executable and it's not installed system wide. I am aware of these issue, don't worry, it's only for testing. |
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| 14:32.41 | mlkjoy | somiaj: after compiling, etc, it doesn't replace the previous openssl I had. I need to perform some tests on the library, but so far after compiling I only get an executable and it's not installed system wide. I am aware of these issue, don't worry, it's only for testing. |
| 14:33.20 | somiaj | mlkjoy: local installs and stuff installed from .deb packages need to live in seperate places. Local installs should be put in /usr/local |
| 14:33.50 | jargon | how can i edit keyboard shortcuts? right now xflock4 mapped to Ctrl+Alt+Del, but i want to change it to Alt+l |
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| 14:33.53 | somiaj | mlkjoy: you can use equivs to tell dpkg you have a local insatll and then remove the debian package. Though I would suggest maybe looking at uupdate or complinging a custom package (not just doing a local install) |
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| 14:34.52 | mlkjoy | somiaj: how do you suggest me to do so then? |
| 14:34.54 | workingcats | nabblet, thanks to a google-contributed patch you can turn off journalling on ext4 ;) |
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| 14:35.08 | workingcats | but yeah, dont. there should be knobs that you can use to stop this ridiculous behaviour |
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| 14:35.43 | somiaj | jargon: depends on the actual short cut. Most short cuts are handeled by the wm/de and that is how to configure them. Some are handeled by xorg directally (these are usually special versions), and some are kernel shortcuts. I think ctrl-alt-del is going to be one of the later |
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| 14:36.11 | nabblet | workingcats: somiaj hm, sometimes i see rsyslogd -c5 in iotop |
| 14:36.13 | workingcats | nabblet, with knobs i mean stuff in /sys. however, the behaviour you see seems very odd indeed |
| 14:36.22 | somiaj | ,v openssl |
| 14:36.23 | judd | Package: openssl on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security-lts: 0.9.8o-4squeeze16; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u11; jessie: 1.0.1h-3; sid: 1.0.1h-3; experimental: 1.0.2~beta1-1 |
| 14:36.46 | workingcats | try stopping rsyslog, see if the problem persists |
| 14:36.47 | somiaj | mlkjoy: would the version in jessie/sid (1.0.1h) be good enough for you, or do you really want the 1.0.2 or newer version |
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| 14:37.09 | somiaj | mlkjoy: you may be able to simply backport the versions from sid or experimental and make a custom package (/msg dpkg ssb) |
| 14:37.16 | J6678 | when installing linux on a system using UEFI, should i mount the existing EFI partition to /boot? |
| 14:37.24 | workingcats | a system logger may well issue lots of barriers and/or fsyncs as integrity and timely physical writing are obv important for it |
| 14:37.27 | babilen | mlkjoy: Why do you want to do that? |
| 14:37.41 | somiaj | mlkjoy: you could also use the debian source (includeing patches and build configs) and use uupdate (/msg dpkg uupdate) to update the actuall source to the newest upstream. |
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| 14:38.02 | mlkjoy | babilen: why are you asking me why lol, we can't test stuff or what ? |
| 14:38.05 | somiaj | mlkjoy: but as I and now babilen are saying, why do you want to upgrade openssl and not use the provided versions. |
| 14:38.33 | babilen | mlkjoy: There is typically an underlying reason and I would personally refrain from tinkering with libssl myself on my boxes. |
| 14:39.11 | babilen | mlkjoy: If your interest is simply in playing with it then please continue doing so. |
| 14:39.17 | mlkjoy | babilen: virtualmachine + testing some stuff on openssl, I guess you would do so as well. |
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| 14:39.41 | SynrGy | mlkjoy: that only names some components. it doesn't clarify what your goal is. |
| 14:39.50 | somiaj | mlkjoy: though if your testing is to test how to deal with local isntalls and compile stuff on debian, there may be other palces to start than a core/important lib like ssl. |
| 14:40.26 | SynrGy | mlkjoy: the main reason not to is 'unintended consequences'. people are really bad at knowing what those are because, well ... they're unintended. |
| 14:40.27 | jargon | somiaj: this is in xfce |
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| 14:41.11 | mlkjoy | SynrGy: even on VMs ? what the matter being "unintended" there ? |
| 14:41.23 | SynrGy | mlkjoy: so to reiterate what others have said, if you could explain your end goal is, we can advise better. |
| 14:42.47 | somiaj | jargon: google suggest that xfce uses it to lock the screen and to goto settings manager > keyboard > shortcuts and look for it there |
| 14:42.49 | mlkjoy | somiaj: To explain better what I am looking for. Let's say I have a given OpenSSL version on my VM and that I would like to install a new one from OpenSSL source code, on the whole machine. No problem with compiling and such so far, but it's not installed system wide, if you see what I mean. |
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| 14:43.09 | somiaj | jargon: if it is not there it is something else that is using that shortcut. |
| 14:43.21 | nabblet | workingcats lol, sudo service rsyslogd stop .. now it doesn't spin down at all Oo |
| 14:43.31 | nabblet | ok, i give up for now... |
| 14:43.45 | nabblet | and will tackle this problem an other time |
| 14:43.48 | somiaj | mlkjoy: first off I don't know what you mean, if you compile source and do 'make install' it usually puts that in /usr/local and is system wide (you just have two versions installed now) |
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| 14:44.28 | somiaj | mlkjoy: second you really aren't answering mine or babilen question as to why you want to upgrade openssl. As I said you can have the install live in /usr/local and use equivs to tell dpkg about it. Or you can build a custom package. The second is prefered but takes more knowledge, the first works jsut fine. |
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| 14:45.50 | somiaj | mlkjoy: and testing this with core libs may not be the best place to get use to how to manage local/source installs. Maybe pick another package to play with first to get use to how to manage local source installs and itnegrate them into a debian system. |
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| 14:47.53 | mlkjoy | somiaj: ok I didn't understand your "why" question then. Let's say wI want to tell dpkg about the new install in usr/local. How can I do so ? By the way, why do you suggest me using another package ? |
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| 14:48.19 | e^0 | sftp is same as ssh ? just in sftp we can execute commands and get files ? |
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| 14:49.52 | Cpuroast | sftp was built ontop of the ssh protocol |
| 14:50.11 | Cpuroast | designed to transfer files securely |
| 14:50.20 | e^0 | Cpuroast: ok :) |
| 14:50.36 | e^0 | no additional config is required as i have configured ssh completely ? |
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| 14:50.38 | somiaj | mlkjoy: you don't have to tell your machine anythign special. /usr/local is in default paths and libary linkers already. If things comply to standards and put things in the right spot putting things in /usr/local (and its directory tree) is enough to be systemwide. and then I also said use 'equivs' to tell dpkg it is a local isntall so you can safely remove the debian package and dpkg can still satasify dependencies for other packages. |
| 14:50.41 | jelly | e^0: except without the command executing part |
| 14:50.42 | optraz | i temperary add the ip using ip addr add |
| 14:50.43 | optraz | what is the command to remove this temp ip assigned? |
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| 14:51.41 | dcpc007 | ksk: kept 002 for root, some important files must be world-readable like /etc/passwd. if 007, risk of change this one day, and hard to remember and debug |
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| 14:51.58 | e^0 | jelly: ok :) |
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| 14:52.40 | dcpc007 | nice week-end to all, and nice "14 Juillet" for french ppl ! |
| 14:53.41 | ksk | dcpc007: as i said, you will likely never remove passwd and create a new one - so that is not really a problem. but do as you wish :) |
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| 14:54.32 | mlkjoy | somiaj: weird. There seems to have some linkage issue. I'm receiving errors when launching the openssl installed in usr/local, but not in the global openssl. You see what I mean ? |
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| 14:56.13 | mlkjoy | somiaj: (sorry for my english, I'm not native as you may have read ^^) |
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| 14:57.26 | paul_grozav | hello, is there a way I can prevent a limited debian user from running su ? If the user knows the root password he/she can connect as root using the su command. I don't want that |
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| 14:58.24 | Brigo | paul_grozav, if the user kowns the root password he can do what he wants |
| 14:58.48 | paul_grozav | Brigo: that's if he/she can connect as root |
| 14:59.35 | paul_grozav | connect as in become... root |
| 14:59.35 | formorer | chroot the user or use some restricted shell |
| 14:59.41 | Brigo | paul_grozav, not only sudo can give you root priveges, su comman can do it too, and may be some ones more |
| 15:00.44 | paul_grozav | I was hoping I could remove the user from the sudoers group, and I hoped that this way the system would reject the login even if the password is good |
| 15:00.51 | paul_grozav | I think ubuntu had this feature |
| 15:00.52 | workingcats | nabblet, there's probably settings for rsyslog to reduce write frequency |
| 15:01.20 | formorer | sudo and su don't correlate in any way |
| 15:01.28 | workingcats | there's also various FS options that would solve the issue, but remove critical data safety protections |
| 15:01.58 | paul_grozav | formorer: I never said anything about sudo |
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| 15:05.07 | Brigo | paul_grozav, you can remove the suid bit of su |
| 15:05.38 | paul_grozav | Brigo: That will only prevent them to run the su program, right? |
| 15:05.53 | paul_grozav | I was hoping for something more general |
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| 15:06.08 | iuz | anyone here is familiar with jekyll? I want to put a 'jekyll serve' on my startup, where can I do that? |
| 15:06.15 | paul_grozav | I have a group of users that are not allowed to switch user to su |
| 15:06.28 | paul_grozav | and only one user that can switch the current user to root |
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| 15:11.20 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:12.05 | AlexPortable | why is firefox not called firefox on debian? |
| 15:12.17 | jhutchins | paul_grozav: WHy does the user have the root password? Change it. |
| 15:12.30 | jhutchins | !why iceweasel |
| 15:12.31 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. Mozilla Corp revoked the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg> <iceweasel vs firefox>. |
| 15:14.09 | jhutchins | paul_grozav: The security function that controls that is the password function. A regular user can only become another user if they have that user's password. |
| 15:14.24 | jhutchins | paul_grozav: If they have that user's password, they can just log in as that user anyway. |
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| 15:14.32 | jhutchins | paul_grozav: How do the users access the system? |
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| 15:16.56 | paul_grozav | jhutchins: the user logs in via ssh as user1 belonging to group hostedUsers and it does not know the root password, but I want to disallow him/her to connect as root if he/she knows the root password. I need to block all hostedUsers mermbers from logging in as root |
| 15:17.07 | raspberrypifan | everytime i plug my gsm into my vm, debian freezes |
| 15:17.33 | AlexPortable | DFSG? |
| 15:20.37 | raspberrypifan | ? |
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| 15:20.54 | SynrGy | AlexPortable: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 15:21.00 | centrx | AlexPortable, /msg dpkg dfsg |
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| 15:27.07 | Resilience | hello to everyone, I have apt-get update/dist-upgrading my debian box (tesing) and I have found that apt-get wants to unistall sysvinit-core, and I DON'T want to run systemd, what should I do? |
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| 15:29.25 | abrotman | Resilience: find out what package wants systemd .. |
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| 15:30.32 | raspberrypifan | can someone help with my usb gsm modem |
| 15:30.38 | SineDeviance | babilen: i solved that MTP issue. all i had to do was add wheezy-backports and upgrade all the libmtp packages to the newest version. works fine in amarok 1.4 now :D |
| 15:30.42 | Resilience | abrotman, dbus and gnome, it is required by them, so it MUST be installed and unistalled sysvinit.. but I don't want to run a machine with systemd |
| 15:30.54 | SynrGy | don't run gnome, then |
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| 15:32.25 | nabblet | workingcats: guess so... |
| 15:32.36 | nabblet | workingcats: thanks for your interest, time and help |
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| 15:33.59 | Brigo | Resilience, gnome depends of systemd. It is a gnome choice, not debian's one |
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| 15:35.11 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: WHat is the host and hypervisor? |
| 15:35.22 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: Is Debian what's running on the VM? |
| 15:35.26 | raspberrypifan | host is os x vmware fusion |
| 15:35.40 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: Host is not affected by freeze? |
| 15:35.45 | raspberrypifan | nop |
| 15:35.54 | abrotman | Resilience: you don't have a choice, gnome requires systemd at this point (I'm pretty sure anyway) |
| 15:35.58 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: Does the VM un-freeze if you remove the GSM? |
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| 15:36.09 | raspberrypifan | yup almost immedatieyl |
| 15:36.14 | SineDeviance | babilen: next time please consider that someone's problem is a debian problem and not a package choice problem, ok? |
| 15:36.18 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: Logs. dmesg. |
| 15:36.19 | raspberrypifan | i had this same issue with ubnutu but not with windows |
| 15:36.22 | raspberrypifan | when visualezed |
| 15:36.22 | raspberrypifan | ok |
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| 15:36.34 | raspberrypifan | let me boot it up, which logs and dmesg u want |
| 15:36.42 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: Also, I would look at the vmware logs and see if there's anything else. |
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| 15:36.58 | raspberrypifan | sure |
| 15:37.00 | Resilience | abrotman then it's time to say gnome goodbye |
| 15:37.05 | raspberrypifan | how do i get the vmware logs, that i dont know |
| 15:37.06 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: I want YOU to look at dmesg and /var/log/syslog and see what's happening there when you plug it in. |
| 15:37.18 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: How long have you left it frozen? |
| 15:37.28 | raspberrypifan | a couple of minutes |
| 15:37.53 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: One thing I'd try is walking away for ten minutes or so and see if it recovers. |
| 15:38.04 | abrotman | Resilience: systemd really isn't that bad .. up to you .. I think you're going to find it harder and harder to avoid systemd anyway |
| 15:38.22 | raspberrypifan | when i looked at the ubuntu logs it said something about the cpu freezing |
| 15:38.26 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: I have no idea where vmware on osx logs, and I don't know what logs are available from osx although I'm sure there are some. |
| 15:41.18 | jhutchins | raspberrypifan: You can obviously try giving the VM more cores and/or RAM. |
| 15:41.26 | raspberrypifan | ive tried that |
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| 15:42.30 | raspberrypifan | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4d5702e448e938ecfc9d |
| 15:42.37 | Resilience | abrotman, is double as bad, it is not the unix way, binary log have no place in a unix system, and if the price for letting out systemd is saying goodbye to gnome (which, by the way, keeps on going worst and wrost) it is a fair price to pay |
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| 15:43.35 | Resilience | abrotman, telle me, how can I know a) which package conflicts with sysvinit-core, and b) which packages rely upon th einstallation on others? |
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| 15:46.07 | Resilience | abrotman, how can I know which packages depend upon the installation of systemd-sysv |
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| 15:46.28 | jww | Hello |
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| 15:47.12 | jww | I'm trying to setup a raid array for / on a running server, my problem is that / is and extended partition, and I can't change the type to 'linux raid autodetect' , any clue on what I could do ? |
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| 15:49.15 | Sagar | Hello, i am trying to make a dynamic motd using /etc/update-motd.d using scripts (used this https://wiki.debian.org/motd#How_to_script_updates_to_your_.2Fetc.2Fmotd) but now if i make new scripts. It's not updating the motd. What should i do? |
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| 15:50.11 | raspberrypifan | jhutchins: yup |
| 15:51.16 | Sagar | ? |
| 15:51.51 | Brigo | jww, you cannot do it. You have to backup the data, build the raid and restore the data into it. |
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| 15:52.50 | jww | Brigo, umm what about I do that on the 2nd disk, chroot to it, and do that on the first disk , then mount /dev/mdx as / ? |
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| 15:54.26 | Brigo | jww, first build the raid, second create the filesystem, and the fill it. |
| 15:54.40 | Brigo | you can keep any information. |
| 15:55.19 | Brigo | when you create a raid it is empty. You cannot create a raid with previous information into it. |
| 15:55.22 | Resilience | anyone can tell how can I know which packes depends on th einstallation of system-sysv or unistalling all ofo them in order that my machines not be possesed byt the evil systemd? |
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| 15:55.42 | Sagar | anyone? |
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| 15:56.05 | Resilience | Sagar, yes, anyone/all/ ;D |
| 15:56.25 | Sagar | Resilience : [21:19] <Sagar> Hello, i am trying to make a dynamic motd using /etc/update-motd.d using scripts (used this https://wiki.debian.org/motd#How_to_script_updates_to_your_.2Fetc.2Fmotd) but now if i make new scripts. It's not updating the motd. What should i do? |
| 15:56.41 | thm | is there a way to review the list of files to be removed by apt-get purge in advance, before actually doing the operation? |
| 15:56.43 | Brigo | Resilience, may be with apt-cache rdepends |
| 15:57.05 | Resilience | brigo thanks |
| 15:57.17 | Brigo | thm you have to write it just in the command line. |
| 15:57.38 | thm | pardon? |
| 15:57.43 | Brigo | Resilience, yw :) |
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| 15:58.16 | Brigo | thm if you want to purge a package, you have to 'apt-get purge package' |
| 15:58.27 | petn-randall | Resilience: wheezy comes with sysv-init, no need to worry about. |
| 15:58.53 | thm | Brigo: that was not my question. I want to review the list of files that command is actually going to remove. |
| 15:59.11 | Brigo | ah the files |
| 15:59.17 | Resilience | petI'm using testing (not silly names, sorry, don't know "ho" is wheezy) and the problem is that updating/dist-upgading forces me to switch to systemd :( |
| 15:59.42 | Brigo | thm dpkg -L package will list the package contents. May be apt-file can help more, i am not sure |
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| 16:00.28 | Resilience | brigo apt-cache rpends was clear to me... sysvinit is the reverse dependency... evilness has taken debian... I wonder how can I do to install the sysvinit system... |
| 16:00.30 | thm | Brigo: my (naive) understanding is that purge in contrast to remove also removes configuration files etc. |
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| 16:01.03 | Brigo | thm, that is right |
| 16:01.12 | geust8888 | i need help regarding burning on disc |
| 16:01.35 | thm | Brigo: and what exactly of those two sets does dpkg -L list? Standard files? Config files? Modified files? |
| 16:01.37 | geust8888 | i have a netinstaller debian and i want to try burn with brasero but it gives me this |
| 16:01.51 | geust8888 | please replace the disc with a supported cd or dvd |
| 16:01.57 | geust8888 | i have a cd rw |
| 16:02.16 | geust8888 | is it supportod or not |
| 16:02.27 | Sagar | anyone who can tell me how to remove motd dynamic cache? |
| 16:02.36 | thm | Brigo: or maybe purge does run the postrm script? |
| 16:02.40 | Brigo | thm all files. There is no way to exactly know what is the config files, usually they are in /etc, only clue i can think |
| 16:03.01 | Brigo | thm, no purge delete the config files, that is right. |
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| 16:03.25 | geust8888 | guys can i have a answer |
| 16:03.40 | Brigo | geust8888, the cd may be supported by you cd-reader, not debian :) |
| 16:03.59 | em | does Debian come with KDE on it by default? |
| 16:04.01 | geust8888 | what do u mean? |
| 16:04.12 | em | I mean when you first use Debian is it KDE |
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| 16:04.28 | geust8888 | em: |
| 16:04.41 | geust8888 | U can download page and pick the desktop environment u want |
| 16:04.42 | Brigo | em, what exactly do you want to say? in the intaller? |
| 16:04.47 | centrx | em, The default is Gnome in the current release |
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| 16:05.12 | em | centrx: can it be switched to KDE in the installer? |
| 16:05.17 | Brigo | em, no, the default is xfce, but you have the option of intall kde in the installion process |
| 16:05.43 | centrx | Brigo, Talk of XFCE is next release |
| 16:05.52 | Brigo | yes, sorry |
| 16:05.58 | em | Is Debian with KDE very different than Kubuntu? |
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| 16:06.05 | centrx | but hey I don't know, I haven't used the installer in three years of course |
| 16:06.47 | Brigo | em, i hope, but i really do not know, i has never used kubuntu. |
| 16:07.02 | geust8888 | Brigo, can u explain further? |
| 16:07.20 | geust8888 | do u mean i need use another burner? |
| 16:08.15 | Resilience | well, another question for anyone xD.. How can I configure the system to boot with sysvinit? |
| 16:08.23 | Brigo | geust8888, does your burnet support that disk? then everything is ok. If not use another disk or another burner, is not debian related issue. |
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| 16:08.39 | Brigo | Resilience, unsitall systemd |
| 16:08.46 | geust8888 | oh |
| 16:08.49 | geust8888 | okay |
| 16:09.30 | Resilience | Brigo, the problem is then that it wants gnome unsitalled too... so I want to keep gnome and sysvinit |
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| 16:10.00 | Brigo | gnome will not run if you boot with system-vinit (i guess) |
| 16:10.02 | tremon | Resilience: you should mention if you're running testing |
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| 16:10.07 | geust8888 | does anyone know another burner |
| 16:10.14 | Resilience | tremon, yes, I am using testing |
| 16:10.27 | jhutchins | geust8888: It's a hardware issue, not software. |
| 16:10.32 | Resilience | Brigo, I don't like guessings ;D |
| 16:10.50 | jhutchins | geust8888: THere are different formats for writable CDs. Not all drives handle all formats. |
| 16:11.09 | Brigo | Resilience, if not already this version, the next version of gnome will need systemd. |
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| 16:11.09 | geust8888 | Il ask my brother :) |
| 16:11.17 | tremon | Resilience: then you need to install systemd-shim and sysvinit-core. Although I don't use gnome, can't test if that is enough |
| 16:11.18 | jhutchins | geust8888: Do you have a USB drive available? |
| 16:11.21 | geust8888 | yes |
| 16:11.27 | geust8888 | usb stick |
| 16:11.31 | jhutchins | geust8888: You could use that. |
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| 16:11.50 | jhutchins | geust8888: You would loose whatever is currently on it, but if your system will boot from USB you can install with that. |
| 16:11.54 | geust8888 | Wel last time i heard is debian iso has issue's with usb |
| 16:12.05 | geust8888 | i mean with unetbootin is that trueN? |
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| 16:12.27 | jhutchins | geust8888: unetbootin seems prone to errors but is entirely unnecssary if you have Linux. |
| 16:12.59 | geust8888 | jhutchins ok what should i use to burn in to usb? |
| 16:13.04 | jhutchins | geust8888: Simply copy the iso to the root device of the USB - ie /dev/sr0 not /dev/sr01 (the partition). |
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| 16:13.20 | highbass | hey guys... i just did a fresh install of debian 7.5 ... i assigned an ip during the setup... now i want to change it and when i goto /etc/network/interfaces i dont see anything there for eth0 (not listed at all) .. when i do ifconfig i see the ip i originally assigned... i restarted the box and still same thing... where is the ip being defined for it to pickup the ip regardless? anyone know? |
| 16:13.33 | jhutchins | !usb install |
| 16:13.33 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
| 16:14.02 | jhutchins | highbass: Probably network-manager. |
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| 16:14.37 | highbass | jhutchins: hmm do you know which config stores the ip info on network manager? |
| 16:14.38 | jhutchins | highbass: Settings should be in system settings or the network-manager applet. |
| 16:14.56 | jhutchins | highbass: For all I know they're using the registry these days. |
| 16:15.01 | highbass | jhutchins: applet? i don't have desktop installed.. |
| 16:15.15 | highbass | just commandline |
| 16:15.18 | highbass | er hsell |
| 16:15.22 | Resilience | trem0r, systemd-shim? what¡s that? |
| 16:15.26 | jhutchins | highbass: Is network-lanager running? |
| 16:15.35 | Resilience | brigo well, I'm into phasing out gnome |
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| 16:15.58 | highbass | it is.. i stopped it and still ip is there.. |
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| 16:16.08 | jhutchins | highbass: If you put the configuration in /etc/network/interfaces it would keep NM from managing it. |
| 16:16.23 | highbass | jhutchins: ok gotcha .. ill do that... Thanks |
| 16:16.33 | jhutchins | highbass: Jaa, well, it would be until something else changed it. |
| 16:17.11 | jhutchins | highbass: network-manager has had cli interfaces in various releases. |
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| 16:18.04 | jhutchins | highbass: I don't see one in 7.5 though. |
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| 16:18.44 | Resilience | jholden_away, why would you like cli when /etc/netork/interfaces DOES exist yet? I don't understand the gnome guys, trying to bad re-invent everything |
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| 16:19.31 | Brigo | jhulst, /usr/bin/nmcli in the own package |
| 16:19.46 | geust8888 | guys if i burn a netinstaller to my cd |
| 16:19.57 | geust8888 | is that will boot from cd? |
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| 16:20.10 | Brigo | geust8888, we hope :) |
| 16:20.33 | geust8888 | oh i mean will it install to my computer hard drive? |
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| 16:20.56 | Resilience | jhutchins, why would you like cli when /etc/netork/interfaces DOES exist yet? I don't understand the gnome guys, trying to bad re-invent everything |
| 16:21.05 | Brigo | geust8888, if you want, it will guide you to achieve it. |
| 16:21.23 | geust8888 | okay |
| 16:21.26 | geust8888 | thanks you |
| 16:21.32 | Sagar | Anyone who can tell me |
| 16:21.33 | Brigo | geust8888, yw :) |
| 16:21.36 | jhutchins | highbass: Documentation suggests that nm-connection-editor might be a cli interface. |
| 16:21.37 | Sagar | how to clear motd cache in debian? |
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| 16:22.34 | Brigo | jhulst, sorry, not for your |
| 16:22.39 | jhutchins | Sagar: No such thing. |
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| 16:22.55 | Brigo | jhutchins, did you read my message about /usr/bin/mncli? |
| 16:23.09 | jhutchins | Brigo: You said it's in the main NM package? |
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| 16:23.15 | Brigo | yes |
| 16:23.27 | jhutchins | Brigo: Good to know. |
| 16:23.28 | highbass | jhutchins: hey thanks for the help... i realized that network-manager was installed ... which was handling the ip.. i just removed it and problem solved |
| 16:23.32 | Resilience | Brigo, what's the difference with modifying directly the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 16:23.34 | Brigo | i found it using apt-file |
| 16:23.47 | highbass | jhutchins: you pointed in the right direction! thanks |
| 16:24.06 | Sagar | jhutcins, when i login i get this http://prntscr.com/41n1uq i want to change that dynamic update |
| 16:24.15 | Brigo | Resilience, if you add a nework inteface to /etc/network/interfaces, network-manager will not manage it. |
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| 16:25.45 | Resilience | brightkill, yes, but, waht's the point in using network manager over /etc/network/intrfaces, speciallywhen it is deffective by dsign NOT using standar configuration file? that's my question |
| 16:25.56 | Resilience | Brigo, , yes, but, waht's the point in using network manager over /etc/network/intrfaces, speciallywhen it is deffective by dsign NOT using standar configuration file? that's my question |
| 16:26.15 | Sagar | resilience: can u help? |
| 16:26.35 | Brigo | Resilience, not to have to configure /etc/network/intrfaces, for example |
| 16:26.48 | Resilience | Sagar, yes, I'm helping, configure interfaces in 7etc/network/interfaces, no need to use network-manager |
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| 16:27.04 | Sagar | Resilience: help me lol? :D |
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| 16:27.22 | petn-randall | !lol |
| 16:27.22 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 16:27.27 | Resilience | Brigo, why you would like not to configure /etc/networks/interfaces and use ifconfig? if you don't like it, or you're not able to learn it you can use windows instead |
| 16:27.49 | Resilience | Sagar, yes, I'm helping, configure interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces, no need to use network-manager, that's the right help |
| 16:28.04 | Brigo | Resilience, or you can use linux win network-manager. |
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| 16:28.26 | Resilience | Brigo, linux win? what's that? |
| 16:28.54 | Brigo | s/win/with, sorry :) |
| 16:28.55 | Sagar | <Resilience : what should i do with that? I want to clear MOTD caches |
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| 16:29.39 | brightkill | Resilience, you may also configure network via /etc/network/interfaces in ubuntu |
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| 16:29.46 | Resilience | Sagar, , wehre? |
| 16:29.59 | Sagar | [21:53] <Sagar> jhutcins, when i login i get this http://prntscr.com/41n1uq i want to change that dynamic update |
| 16:29.59 | Sagar | [ |
| 16:30.06 | Sagar | Resilience: when i login i get this http://prntscr.com/41n1uq i want to change that dynamic update |
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| 16:30.28 | Resilience | brightkill, that's what I was saying, there is NO POINT AT ALL in using network manager, nor systemd by the way... gnome isn't doing the right things |
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| 16:31.50 | brightkill | dpkg, any AOL users here? :) |
| 16:31.50 | dpkg | wish i knew, brightkill |
| 16:32.18 | Sagar | dpkg, How are you? |
| 16:32.20 | dpkg | Sagar: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 16:32.40 | Sagar | Reslilience: now you know my problem? |
| 16:33.22 | Resilience | Sagar, I still don't udnerstand.. do you want to clear what part? you have mail? or the linux atom? or the last login? |
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| 16:33.53 | Sagar | i want to change the motd dynmaic update script. I am trying to do this: https://wiki.debian.org/motd#How_to_script_updates_to_your_.2Fetc.2Fmotd |
| 16:35.55 | Resilience | Sagar, do you want to add things? or delte things? |
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| 16:36.03 | Sagar | add things |
| 16:36.09 | Sagar | and delete the told ones |
| 16:36.40 | Sagar | i have added files under /etc/update-motd.d but when i login it doesnt show changed |
| 16:36.44 | Blakney | I have debian wheezy and tried to configure wlan, which does work after installing the required firmware. I can ping any address, I can use Tor, but if I open Iceweasel, it simply does not connect to the internet - neither my IM programms, nor deb update. I suspected some dns issue, but resolv.conf looks good (such as connection information). Could someone maybe point in the right direction how to find the culprit? |
| 16:36.51 | Resilience | Sagar, as I understan from man motd everything is in /etc/motd |
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| 16:37.27 | Resilience | Sagar, try with /etc/init.d/motd restart |
| 16:37.34 | Blakney | btw I had firestarter. I removed it but it's still the same. |
| 16:38.42 | Sagar | root@atom:~# /etc/init.d/motd restart | Error: argument 'restart' not supported |
| 16:38.43 | Resilience | I have beck-up a two partition system to two disk images with dd, how can I run them virtulazied? one is / and the other is /home |
| 16:39.03 | Resilience | sagar try with /etc/init.d/motd stop |
| 16:39.15 | Sagar | did that too nothing happened |
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| 16:39.44 | Resilience | Sagar, mmm have you tried to reboo yor system to see if changes take effect? |
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| 16:40.22 | Sagar | Resilience: to change the motd why whould i have to reboot the server? :o |
| 16:40.32 | petn-randall | Blakney: Let's dive into a terminal. If you type 'host google.com', do you get a response? What does 'ping -c 3 8.8.8.8' do? |
| 16:40.34 | Sagar | That could create loss to our users and their processes |
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| 16:40.57 | Resilience | Sagar, I'm afraid that I'm not too much into motd |
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| 16:41.52 | Blakney | petn-randball the ping command says: 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms |
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| 16:42.28 | Blakney | petn-randball as for host: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 16:43.41 | petn-randall | Blakney: petn<tab> that should work for most IRC clients and actually highlight me :) |
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| 16:44.19 | petn-randall | Blakney: Can you paste the output of 'cat /etc/resolv.conf', 'ifconfig -a' and 'route -n' to http://paste.debian.net? |
| 16:44.22 | Blakney | petn-randall, Indeed, thx |
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| 16:44.38 | Thrasymachus | :help |
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| 16:46.33 | geust8888 | I have question |
| 16:46.43 | geust8888 | debian-jessie-DI-a1-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 16:46.53 | geust8888 | what environment wil it give me? |
| 16:47.02 | Nik05 | the one you choose |
| 16:47.05 | brightkill | graphical, console |
| 16:47.07 | geust8888 | k |
| 16:47.11 | brightkill | your choice |
| 16:47.17 | geust8888 | what one is default? |
| 16:47.19 | chreuben | geust8888: xfce, I think |
| 16:47.21 | geust8888 | for jessie 8 |
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| 16:47.33 | Nik05 | but just go to advanced and you can choose yourself |
| 16:47.38 | chreuben | geust8888: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/debian-8-0-switches-xfce-default |
| 16:47.39 | SynrGy | sooo much misinformation |
| 16:47.53 | geust8888 | chreuben, but it is forever? |
| 16:47.53 | Thrasymachus | set theme Atlas |
| 16:48.00 | chreuben | geust8888: Nothing is forever. |
| 16:48.13 | SynrGy | sigh |
| 16:48.17 | SynrGy | xfce is *not* the default |
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| 16:48.37 | Thrasymachus | set theme ColmeneroM |
| 16:48.39 | geust8888 | chreuben, i noticed when i installed debian 7 alt tab has weird icons |
| 16:48.42 | geust8888 | is that normal? |
| 16:48.48 | SynrGy | gnome is. that article is old. and repeats some info taken out of context |
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| 16:49.06 | chreuben | geust8888: werid as in color scheme? |
| 16:49.34 | geust8888 | I can't explain it very well |
| 16:49.41 | geust8888 | but i find a image quick |
| 16:49.43 | chreuben | geust8888: ok |
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| 16:50.26 | Sagar | how to update wheezy to jessie? |
| 16:50.30 | geust8888 | chreuben, i can't find anything |
| 16:50.55 | abrotman | Resilience: did you get your answer? |
| 16:51.00 | SynrGy | geust8888: let me clear the record: gnome is the default for debian 8. no public release has been made for an installer for jessie that users should use. users should be cautious to install jessie anyway, but if they do, the recommended way is to install wheezy, then upgrade. |
| 16:51.00 | geust8888 | Nik05, is advanced for experts? |
| 16:51.06 | chreuben | Sagar: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie |
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| 16:51.22 | SynrGy | dpkg: wheezy->jessie |
| 16:51.22 | dpkg | First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you will have a bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like wheezy-updates and backports, and change wheezy to jessie. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Consider running <tum> at this point in the release cycle. |
| 16:51.24 | Nik05 | geust8888 you can just select which DE the installer should install |
| 16:51.38 | geust8888 | okay |
| 16:51.45 | SynrGy | i cannot vouch for the non-debian link chreuben just gave |
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| 16:51.57 | Nik05 | but geust8888 after install you can also just switch to another desktop environment |
| 16:51.58 | geust8888 | SynrGy, ok i do that |
| 16:52.08 | geust8888 | cool :) |
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| 16:53.10 | geust8888 | OK i start :) |
| 16:53.15 | geust8888 | Debian is nice and friendly |
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| 16:55.15 | SynrGy | chreuben: there are many competent helpers here. give some of the others a chance to give correct answers before attempting your own. the omgubuntu link was flat out wrong. the stackexchange link contains misinformation (mostly harmless, though). |
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| 16:56.03 | chreuben | SynrGy: I’m confused. Were you beaten badly as a child, or did you go to a particular college to learn to be breathelessly tactless and rude? |
| 16:56.05 | Sagar | SynrGy: Can you tell me what to put in sources.list? |
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| 16:56.43 | SynrGy | chreuben: you were saying? |
| 16:56.45 | geust8888 | Guys failed to burn netinstaller |
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| 16:56.56 | Brigo | Sagar, did you try to ask google? |
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| 16:57.05 | Sagar | Brigo: Yes |
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| 16:57.09 | chreuben | SynrGy: After two deployments, come talk to me about pulling rank. As I was saying, were you beaten badly as a child, or did you go to a particular college to learn to be breathelessly tactless and rude |
| 16:57.22 | Sagar | Brigo: http://prntscr.com/41nei7 |
| 16:57.22 | geust8888 | k3b failed to burn |
| 16:57.27 | xhc_[slovakia] | hello.. upgrading nvidia drivers in stable and no X ..only black screen .. recovery mode runs ... anybody with same expierence? |
| 16:57.28 | chreuben | . o O ( …and your only recourse is… ) |
| 16:57.48 | SynrGy | chreuben: at this point i don't really think you're an asset to this channel |
| 16:57.50 | SineDeviance | hi all. can anyone recommend a lightweight debian derivative? by lightweight i mean the desktop environment. something running on unstable would be nice :D |
| 16:57.57 | SynrGy | chreuben: prove me wrong |
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| 16:58.24 | xhc_[slovakia] | nouveau driver runs .. |
| 16:58.28 | chreuben | SynrGy: Hmm. I’m not entirely sure I care about your opinion, but I’ll let you believe what you want. It’s a free country. :) |
| 16:58.31 | Brigo | SineDeviance, why does you install xfce and go? |
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| 16:59.09 | SynrGy | chreuben: the collective wisdom of the channel is available through the infobot. a lot of thought and effort goes into making those answers concise and accurate |
| 16:59.15 | SineDeviance | Brigo: xfce isn't light enough :D |
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| 16:59.24 | Nik05 | SineDeviance lxde, openbox, xfce, something like that? |
| 16:59.26 | chreuben | SynrGy: Of that I’ve no doubt. |
| 16:59.31 | Brigo | SineDeviance, so twm |
| 16:59.33 | SynrGy | chreuben: i just want to encourage you to give correct and concise answers that we've vetted before linking to potentially inaccurate/out of date third-party sources |
| 16:59.39 | SineDeviance | i was running wheezy with trinity desktop and it was quite nice, but i can't get my nexus 5 to work because wheezy's MTP libs are outdated |
| 16:59.58 | SineDeviance | i would just roll unstable w/ trinity but there are no trinity packages for unstable :D |
| 17:00.36 | Sagar | trying jessie :') |
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| 17:00.43 | chreuben | SynrGy: That’s odd. I thought I was supposed to give out inaccurate/out-of-date information and *then* refer to reliable sources. Thank you for setting me straight. i’m grateful that you’re taking such a strong leadership stance. |
| 17:02.38 | SynrGy | oh so clever |
| 17:02.47 | Thrasymachus | SynrGy: thanks for your efforts |
| 17:02.49 | chreuben | SynrGy: I just wanna be like you, Dad. :^) |
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| 17:04.09 | Resilience | abrotman, my answer about what? I have askedd more than one thing :) |
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| 17:05.15 | abrotman | Resilience: how to tell which package is dependent on another one |
| 17:07.04 | Resilience | abrotman, someone told me with apt-cache rdepends right? |
| 17:07.18 | abrotman | or aptitude why foo |
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| 17:08.56 | petn-randall | Blakney: Keep everything on the channel, that way other people can follow up on the problem and chime in if needed. |
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| 17:09.21 | Blakney | petn-randall, I got it, thx for the hints! It was the dns resolution. I had chattr+i on resolv.conf - this is why the host command did not work |
| 17:10.22 | Resilience | abrotman, thanks |
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| 17:12.52 | petn-randall | Blakney: Heh, well now you know ;) |
| 17:14.42 | Blakney | petn-randall, Yes, that host command gave me the hint. Now connection information also shows different dns server settings. That was the culprit, it did not accept the servers I configured before for a different network connection. Thx again. |
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| 17:23.52 | buscio | bluray playback doesn't work with the newest automagic install... why? |
| 17:24.38 | em | Is debian testing rolling release? |
| 17:24.50 | brightkill | em, no |
| 17:24.53 | em | are the packages in debian testing pretty fresh? |
| 17:24.55 | brightkill | sid is rolling |
| 17:24.58 | tremon | !rolling |
| 17:24.58 | dpkg | Testing is not a rolling release in the strict sense of the word. It is a test platform, currently codenamed <jessie>. It is part of the Debian development process and is gradually being built into the next <stable>. Please go to #debian-next on irc.debian.org for support. See <moving target>. |
| 17:25.10 | brightkill | em, not all |
| 17:25.33 | centrx | em, Testing is pretty fresh and it is updated frequently |
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| 17:25.41 | brightkill | em, if you want to fresh packages, you need to enable experimental branch |
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| 17:25.56 | em | would you say debian testing is about as fresh as a recent ubuntu? |
| 17:25.57 | brightkill | centrx, not so fresh like arch, for example :) |
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| 17:26.37 | tremon | em: current testing is probably as fresh as ubuntu. Testing a year from now will be stale compared to ubuntu |
| 17:26.49 | towo` | brightkill, even experimental is not fresh as arch |
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| 17:26.57 | brightkill | yeah |
| 17:27.06 | centrx | em, Testing is usually newer than Ubuntu releases, but it always changes depending on the various release cycles |
| 17:27.33 | buscio | gentoo it is, then. |
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| 17:29.07 | brightkill | centrx, testing is not always newer than ubuntu. |
| 17:29.08 | brontosaurusrex | what would i read to understand how thunar is automounting usb/ntfs stuff? |
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| 17:29.34 | brontosaurusrex | (my manual mount is giving me 40Mb/s, which is a record i think) |
| 17:29.34 | tremon | its source code :p |
| 17:29.40 | brightkill | while testing is frozen, ubuntu release can be newer |
| 17:29.40 | centrx | brightkill, Usually most of it is, for some portion of the 6-month release |
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| 17:30.02 | centrx | Good point |
| 17:30.25 | tremon | brontosaurusrex: thunar is probably using gvfs, although it could be using udisks directly |
| 17:30.52 | centrx | I guess that's a good case of why it's not a rolling release too: its behavior changes based on Debian's real release cycle. |
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| 17:31.29 | brightkill | tremon, gvfs is for trash. |
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| 17:32.05 | tremon | gvfs is for per-user virtual mounts. Trash is one of them |
| 17:32.06 | brontosaurusrex | i think iam gonna just trash thunar |
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| 17:32.56 | em | id love to see a debian flavour that brings all the good stuff about debian but throws in relatively fresh rolling releases. |
| 17:33.20 | mentor | Is there a TLS/SSL test suite available? |
| 17:33.26 | brontosaurusrex | em, siduction, aptosid are supposed to be that |
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| 17:42.41 | tremon | anyone here running openconnect as a normal user? The docs say "it can use a tun device [..] owned by the user who runs OpenConnect" but I can't find how to pass this device to openconnect |
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| 17:45.54 | petern_ | tremon, yes, but I use the network-manager interface for it. |
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| 17:46.08 | petern_ | Which seems to do everything magically. |
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| 17:46.20 | tremon | hmm, yes maybe that will be easier :) |
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| 18:03.45 | tremon | gah. it helps if you create a tun0 device instead of tap0 for a tunnel :| |
| 18:04.14 | jerrcs | hm? |
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| 18:05.20 | kryl | hi, how to find package's dependencies ? I want to remove apache2 but I can't... |
| 18:05.45 | centrx | kryl, You mean reverse dependencies? |
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| 18:06.27 | tremon | kryl: can't you let the tools do the work? apt-get remove apache2 should remove the deps as well |
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| 18:09.34 | kryl | centrx, yep |
| 18:09.54 | kryl | I know there is a command who can help to know dependencies for each package |
| 18:10.11 | kryl | tremon, yes it's done but it's not really what I try to learn |
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| 18:15.21 | akp | hey where can i get git 1.9 for debian 7.5? |
| 18:15.43 | tremon | ,v git-core |
| 18:15.44 | judd | Package: git-core on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.0.1-1; sid: 1:2.0.1-1; experimental: 1:2.0.1+next.20140627-1 |
| 18:16.01 | tremon | akp: in backports |
| 18:16.14 | tremon | !tell akp about bdo |
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| 18:17.55 | tremon | kryl: see the man page for apt-cache |
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| 18:18.19 | akp | hmmm |
| 18:18.46 | kryl | tremon, ok thx |
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| 18:19.17 | akp | so i've added wheezy-backport, and when i install git, it is still pulling the old 1.7 version |
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| 18:19.29 | Resilience | how can I delete bookmarks in epiphany? |
| 18:20.23 | tremon | akp: the default repository has predence. If you want to install a package from backports, you need to use -t wheezy-backports (as the instructions say ;) |
| 18:20.28 | zykotick9 | akp: what command are you using to install? "aptitude -t wheezy-backports install git-core"? |
| 18:20.41 | tremon | *precedence |
| 18:20.54 | akp | tremon: ahh, thanks |
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| 18:22.00 | Geust8888 | helo |
| 18:22.06 | saxgeek | I'm trying to compile the xf86-video-cube driver for Debian 5.0 "Lenny" on my Nintendo Wii, but when I run ./configure I get this message: no package 'xorg-server' found, no package 'xproto' found, no package 'fontsproto' found. There doesn't appear to be packages with those names in the repositories if that's what it means. |
| 18:22.07 | Geust8888 | I have installed debian jessie |
| 18:22.31 | Geust8888 | but i have question |
| 18:22.40 | Geust8888 | where is software center |
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| 18:23.11 | tremon | saxgeek: the xproto one is x11proto-*-dev (at least in current stable) |
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| 18:23.17 | mtn | Geust8888: the package manager is called synaptic, you may need to install it |
| 18:23.25 | Geust8888 | thanks |
| 18:23.42 | Geust8888 | can i have another question? |
| 18:23.52 | Geust8888 | why isn't debian detecting my monitor |
| 18:24.02 | jmcnaught | Geust8888: Jessie is supported in #debian-next on irc.debian.org (see the topic) |
| 18:24.16 | Geust8888 | thx |
| 18:24.32 | Resilience | jmcnaught, what's jesie? unstable? testing? |
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| 18:24.59 | Geust8888 | helo |
| 18:25.08 | jhutchins | Resilience: testing |
| 18:25.14 | jmcnaught | Resilience: Jessie is the current testing release. The nickname for unstable is "sid" |
| 18:25.27 | Geust8888 | am i in the right channel? |
| 18:25.29 | jhutchins | Resilience: Unstable is always sid. |
| 18:25.30 | Geust8888 | #debian-next |
| 18:25.37 | tremon | saxgeek: the fontsproto might be x11proto-fonts-dev, not sure. Check configure.log for which xserver dev package is required. |
| 18:25.42 | mtn | Geust8888: nope, wrong channel and wrong server |
| 18:25.44 | Resilience | jmcnaught, and jhutchins why don't call the irc channel for testing #debian-testing? seems confusing to me really |
| 18:25.53 | Geust8888 | o |
| 18:26.00 | jmcnaught | Geust8888: same place you were a moment ago. irc.oftc.net / irc.debian.org is not part of freenode |
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| 18:26.21 | Geust8888 | ok can i have help how do i join debian next |
| 18:26.30 | jmcnaught | Resilience: I didn't name the channel, but I guess it's assumed that people using development releases would be able ot find that information on their own |
| 18:26.31 | saxgeek | tremon: Wow, this guy has my exact issue. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-June/016073.html I'll try those suggestions. |
| 18:26.33 | yofun | Would anyone be interested in buying http://lovethedeb.org |
| 18:26.35 | jhutchins | Resilience: Because it's the next release. |
| 18:26.56 | Resilience | jhutchins, but it is always been called "testing" and not "next"... |
| 18:27.06 | Geust8888 | Guys can i ask here please? |
| 18:27.12 | jhutchins | Resilience: it also covers sid. |
| 18:27.15 | Geust8888 | debian is fast but i have some problems |
| 18:27.26 | Resilience | jmcnaught, I've been using testing releseases since 2002 and it is the first time I have ever heard of that channel |
| 18:27.45 | mtn | Geust8888: go to the correct channel, it really isn't that hard ;) |
| 18:27.54 | jmcnaught | Geust8888: it's not on freenode. irc://irc.debian.org/debian-next |
| 18:27.55 | Geust8888 | yeh but i don't know how |
| 18:28.14 | mtn | Geust8888: well, if you can't figure that out, you sure shouldn't be running jessie :P |
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| 18:28.16 | jhutchins | Geust8888: Generic problems we can probably help with, but for anything that's jessie specific you'll find more knowledge there. |
| 18:28.19 | yofun | Would anyone be interested in buying http://lovethedeb.org? I brought the domain for a friend for him to start a deb forum. But he's no longer working on it so anyways I plan on renewing it for 10 years and sell it for at least $70 |
| 18:28.19 | jmcnaught | Resilience: *shrug* It's been in the topic here for as long as I can remember |
| 18:29.25 | Geust8888 | ok i clicked irc link in that link |
| 18:29.32 | Geust8888 | and opened with mibbit |
| 18:29.38 | Geust8888 | but i see banned |
| 18:29.50 | mtn | heh |
| 18:30.04 | Geust8888 | irc.debian.org: Closing Link: ircip3.mibbit.com (Banned) |
| 18:30.04 | jhutchins | Geust8888: I guess you're going to have to read the docs for your irc client. |
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| 18:31.11 | mtn | Geust8888: it is irc.debian.net, not .org. that might help ;) |
| 18:31.20 | Resilience | jmcnaught, irc.debian.org? or the server in the topic? |
| 18:31.31 | abrotman | the one in the topic |
| 18:31.36 | abrotman | less confusion |
| 18:31.52 | Resilience | abrotman, thay are both the same? |
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| 18:32.25 | jmcnaught | Resilience: irc.debian.org basically points to irc.oftc.net. The debian wiki also has a list of Debian related IRC channels |
| 18:33.15 | Resilience | jmcnaught, thanks |
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| 18:33.31 | Geust8888 | do i need go esper ? |
| 18:33.33 | abrotman | Resilience: it's a CNAME, yes .. but irc.oftc.net is less confusing.. not sure why people use the irc.debian.net stuff .. |
| 18:33.34 | Geust8888 | for make it work? |
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| 18:33.44 | Geust8888 | please help |
| 18:33.45 | woleium | Does anyone know if php5.3 security updates are available in squeeze-lts, or how to check? |
| 18:34.02 | abrotman | woleium: they have a mailing list (and I think an IRC channel on OFTC) |
| 18:34.35 | Resilience | abrotman, less confusing oftf than debian? mmmm |
| 18:34.42 | woleium | abrotman: ty :), what is OFTC? |
| 18:34.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell woleium about squeeze-lts |
| 18:34.48 | abrotman | dpkg: tell woleium about OFTC |
| 18:35.00 | woleium | thanks :) |
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| 18:35.58 | jmcnaught | for what it's worth, the IRC page on the wiki is all links to irc.debian.org. I don't think irc.debian.net points to the same place. |
| 18:36.16 | Geust8888 | okay i have websearch irc debian.net |
| 18:36.20 | Geust8888 | but it doesn't work |
| 18:37.01 | Geust8888 | pls can i ask here? |
| 18:37.06 | jmcnaught | Geust8888: http://www.oftc.net/ at the top you can enter a nick (maybe spell Guest correctly ;) and #channel |
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| 18:37.44 | Geust8888 | ok |
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| 18:38.55 | Geust8888 | Guest8888 Erroneous Nickname |
| 18:39.11 | Geust8888 | why not work -.- |
| 18:39.12 | mtn | pretty much says it all :) |
| 18:39.43 | Geust8888 | ok can i ask here? |
| 18:40.11 | Geust8888 | any admin help plz |
| 18:40.20 | centrx | Use a real name |
| 18:40.46 | Geust8888 | thx work |
| 18:41.40 | abrotman | jmcnaught: it doesn't even exist ... |
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| 18:42.57 | jhutchins | Geust8888: Don't use "guest" as a nick. There were 15 "guests" here yesterday. Tab completion works best when the first three letters of your name are unique. |
| 18:43.11 | Geust8888 | okay |
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| 18:46.14 | Geust8888 | guys nobody reply there |
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| 18:46.41 | Resilience | how can I delete bookmarks in epiphany? |
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| 18:47.27 | Geust8888 | Resilience, right click and delete |
| 18:48.03 | Geust8888 | wait let me search google |
| 18:48.15 | mtn | Resilience: typed your question in google and this is first hit: https://help.gnome.org/users/epiphany/stable/ |
| 18:48.33 | mtn | whew! that was hard work! |
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| 18:48.42 | Geust8888 | yeh lol |
| 18:49.00 | Resilience | geusebio, that does not work |
| 18:49.19 | Geust8888 | I should give epiphany a try |
| 18:50.04 | Geust8888 | geusiobo lool |
| 18:50.26 | Resilience | mtn, mm I think you're trying to be sarcastic.. well, try to find wat the web button is or where is t in the browser.. and you'll find that in debina doe snot exist.. oh.. what a pitty boy |
| 18:50.36 | Geust8888 | Resilience calm down |
| 18:50.55 | cyc0rn0 | I'm running a debian host/guest. trying to setup shared folders. I mounted the vboxsf as sudo, but permissions are restricted to root:root . I tried sudo chown vboxuser:vboxuser Host but that won't change the permissions on the folder |
| 18:51.10 | mtn | Resilience: yes, I was being sarcastic. If we can find the answer using google, why can't you? |
| 18:51.37 | Resilience | mtn, I'm telling you that that is NO answer, becasuse there is no web button man :) |
| 18:51.59 | Geust8888 | mtn, how do i change easily desktop environments? |
| 18:52.07 | Geust8888 | and logout and back in |
| 18:52.09 | Geust8888 | ? |
| 18:52.25 | Geust8888 | change environment logout and back in |
| 18:52.35 | mtn | Geust8888: if you have another one installed, you seem to already know the answer. log out, choose desktop, login |
| 18:53.00 | Geust8888 | thx |
| 18:53.12 | mtn | Resilience: is there a drop down menu for that app up on the panel? |
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| 18:54.23 | Resilience | mtn, no, |
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| 18:55.39 | mtn | Resilience: not sure what yours looks like, but mine has a gear wheel icon on the upper left. under it you will find bookmarks. |
| 18:55.59 | Resilience | mtm oh man, I have found it, the web button is not on the application as it should be, it is in the upper pannel... pfs, gnome it's really fucked up |
| 18:56.00 | mtn | Resilience: upper right, sorry |
| 18:56.31 | mtn | Resilience: yes, on the panel. I just asked you about that and you said "no" |
| 18:56.39 | Resilience | mtn, the upper right does not work, what works is a button in the command pannel of gnome... ouside of the application! I have found it thaks to your comeentaries |
| 18:56.59 | mtn | Resilience: at least you found it |
| 18:57.17 | jhutchins | !es |
| 18:57.18 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 18:57.46 | Resilience | mtn, yes, I have found it, I was lloking at panel-aplications, and not in the panel |
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| 19:37.58 | Extensa5630G | how to upgrade libc6 2.13 to 2.15? i need to install steam but it depends on that newer version, downloading the package (from https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/libc6/download )then installling it wasn't successful, |
| 19:38.12 | Extensa5630G | i use wheezy kde |
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| 19:41.15 | Codmadnesspro | Hello, im getting ERROR: Site playmcpe.com does not exist. When I run a2ensite playmcpe.com! Yet I have the vhost in sites avalible. Im using ubuntu 14.04. |
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| 19:43.04 | jmcnaught | Codmadnesspro: Ubuntu support is in #ubuntu |
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| 19:43.16 | Codmadnesspro | Oh ok thanks |
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| 19:45.45 | jmcnaught | Extensa5630G: you cannot upgrade the version of glibc in Wheezy (or any Debian Stable release). You might check https://wiki.debian.org/Steam it suggests using a Jessie chroot, or upgrading to Jessie (which is a testing release that's not finished yet, and not really intended for end-users, prone to breaking etc) |
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| 19:47.19 | jmcnaught | skilz: i think it's called gnome-panel |
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| 19:47.40 | cinnamon | what is the proper way to install adobe flash player for chromium on debian 7 wheezy? |
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| 19:48.21 | skilz | Where can I get the testing image? |
| 19:48.47 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell cinnamon -about pepper flash |
| 19:49.43 | cinnamon | https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 19:50.01 | jmcnaught | skilz: it's usually recommend to install stable and upgrade to testing instead of using the testing image. Jessie's not finished yet though, I recommend reading the precautions in this chapter before using Jessie: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html |
| 19:50.03 | cinnamon | Ensure your /etc/apt/sources.list file includes the contrib section... how do i ensure? |
| 19:50.34 | jmcnaught | cinnamon: dpkg bot should have sent you a message about pepper flash with a different wiki link.. use that instead of the one you just posted ^^. Or use Iceweasel |
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| 19:54.21 | wblankenship | I want to take all traffic on my machine that goes to my.website.com/path and reroute it to localhost:80/path |
| 19:54.31 | wblankenship | Is there a quick and dirty way to do this? |
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| 19:56.47 | frostschutz | wblankenship, put my.website.com as 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts? |
| 19:57.46 | frostschutz | but that would only work for things that originate locally... if the traffic is coming from elsewhere, it woudln't obviously |
| 19:58.47 | some-cowbell | frostschutz: do you own the domain name you want to put apache on? |
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| 19:59.10 | skilz | What can I do if I want to make my own custom version of debian? Like pretty much keep it how it is, except it installs xorg and starts xorg with compiz, mate-panel, cairo-dock |
| 19:59.16 | skilz | What do I have to do? |
| 19:59.28 | skilz | So I can put that disk in any computer and it installs like that |
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| 20:02.38 | skilz | Whats the command to copy the iso to usb stick? |
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| 20:05.52 | gotmynick | the specific command is in the installation manual, written and translated by volunteers for your enjoyment, always you can try "man dd" and guess yourself |
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| 20:06.35 | rryoumaa | i did apt-clone, and now i want to restore. however, i only want to get the list of manually-installed packages from the old partition. i don't know what apt-clone does with keyrings or why, and i don't necessarily trust the old keyring. how can i do this? (inb4 it is a tar file but it does not have the manuall-installed list as a list per se; it calculates it.) |
| 20:06.38 | cinnamon | E: Unable to locate package pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 20:07.13 | cyc0rn0 | everytime I open a new term I need to run source ~/.rvm/scripts/rvm , what's the fix there? |
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| 20:08.54 | some-cowbell | what shell does the new term run? |
| 20:08.56 | gotmynick | cyc0rn0: put this at the end of your ~/.bashrc [[ -r "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" ]] && . "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" || : |
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| 20:09.20 | Fooman2011 | Hello guys. Could anyone tell me why I can't find the package mpeg4ip-server ? |
| 20:09.27 | Fooman2011 | I'm on wheezy |
| 20:09.46 | mtn | Fooman2011: http://packages.debian.org |
| 20:10.28 | Fooman2011 | mtn: not foud |
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| 20:10.58 | `ajven | hi, this new debian (7.5) got systemd inside already ? |
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| 20:11.53 | mtn | Fooman2011: not at all? not in debian, then? |
| 20:12.16 | Fooman2011 | mtn: I have installed this package on an old ubuntu |
| 20:12.37 | Fooman2011 | mtn: Now I need it on my new debian and I can't find it :( |
| 20:13.01 | mtn | Fooman2011: it might have a different name on debian, or it might be included in another package. I am not familiar with that package. |
| 20:13.04 | cyc0rn0 | gotmynick: thanks, doesn't quite work but it looks good |
| 20:13.20 | cyc0rn0 | gotmynick: I probably copied it wrong :- |
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| 20:13.55 | gotmynick | cyc0rn0: not an rvm user, but it works for other sourced files on my debian machines |
| 20:14.16 | mtn | Fooman2011: you may need to get it from the net: http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/documentation/ |
| 20:15.12 | cyc0rn0 | gotmynick: thanks - that worked. it was just a bad copy/paste |
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| 20:15.32 | cyc0rn0 | virtualboxes and all that crap |
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| 20:15.42 | cyc0rn0 | thankyou! |
| 20:15.52 | Fooman2011 | mtn: Yeah...i'm looking here but I can't find the package already compiled... :( |
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| 20:17.04 | skilz | How do I install compiz? |
| 20:17.10 | skilz | I can't see a package for it? |
| 20:17.25 | skilz | Also, how do I start x with just mate-panel and cairo-dock ? |
| 20:17.39 | some-cowbell | Fooman2011: if you were to find it compiled, it might be compiled for the machine and libs you have |
| 20:18.01 | Fooman2011 | Ok I'm trying to compile |
| 20:18.31 | r-x-w- | ;_; why is Debian such Debian? also my xterm refuses to do UTF-8 |
| 20:18.32 | Fooman2011 | first line, first error...: checking for ./bootstrapped... no configure: error: Please run bootstrap first Do you know what does it means ? |
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| 20:19.41 | some-cowbell | Fooman2011: you need to satisfy the build dependencies; maybe there is a list in the README or INSTALL files |
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| 20:20.14 | Fooman2011 | ok i'll check thanks |
| 20:21.12 | r-x-w- | I tried mostly everything. Anyone using xterm? |
| 20:21.42 | gjvc | yes |
| 20:21.47 | gjvc | xterm is fast |
| 20:21.50 | petern_ | Works with utf-8 for me |
| 20:21.58 | r-x-w- | does it come with UTF-8 compiled in? |
| 20:22.03 | r-x-w- | a-ha |
| 20:22.05 | gjvc | dunno |
| 20:22.07 | gjvc | let me check |
| 20:22.14 | gjvc | i use it because it's fast |
| 20:22.33 | gjvc | i'd love to know a faster one |
| 20:22.34 | petern_ | Do you have UTF-8 $LANG? |
| 20:23.11 | r-x-w- | err no. |
| 20:23.21 | petern_ | That's probably why then. |
| 20:23.38 | gjvc | /usr/bin/xterm -u8 |
| 20:23.42 | gjvc | ? |
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| 20:23.55 | petern_ | uxterm |
| 20:23.56 | gjvc | /usr/bin/xterm -v |
| 20:23.58 | gjvc | XTerm(308) |
| 20:24.11 | r-x-w- | that's what it says |
| 20:24.12 | gjvc | uxterm tried unsuccessfully to use locale en_US.UTF-8 |
| 20:24.14 | gjvc | by setting $LC_ALL to "en_US.UTF-8". |
| 20:24.20 | gjvc | is what i get with uxterm |
| 20:24.21 | r-x-w- | yea, that's a hack |
| 20:24.35 | petern_ | $ echo $LANG |
| 20:24.36 | petern_ | en_GB.UTF-8 |
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| 20:24.45 | gjvc | $ echo $LANG |
| 20:24.46 | gjvc | C |
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| 20:24.50 | petern_ | No problems with UTF-8, just running xterm. |
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| 20:25.09 | gjvc | is C.UTF-8 valid ? |
| 20:25.14 | r-x-w- | in Wheezy I added en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 to /etc/locale.gen |
| 20:25.23 | r-x-w- | and then dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 20:25.39 | r-x-w- | it generates my locales and locale -a gives me love |
| 20:25.54 | gjvc | en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
| 20:26.15 | gjvc | C.UTF-8 appears valid |
| 20:26.24 | r-x-w- | on jessie it ends up kind of pooped where the resulting locales -a is just a bunch of =POSTIX |
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| 20:27.37 | gjvc | ok cool |
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| 20:28.02 | gjvc | export LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 |
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| 20:28.47 | petern_ | With locales generated and set with the dpkg-reconfigure locales method, you shouldn't ever need to manually set your lang environment variables. |
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| 20:29.28 | r-x-w- | exactly |
| 20:29.47 | gjvc | petern_: agree, but i have some dotfiles which i use everywhere |
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| 20:31.16 | r-x-w- | gjvc: C.UTF-8 is no localization; dunno if it works, but yea, if you do an expert install that's all you get. |
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| 20:32.39 | gjvc | ok |
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| 20:33.20 | skilz | How do I install compiz? |
| 20:33.28 | skilz | I want the compoisiting working |
| 20:34.15 | dondelelcaro | !compiz |
| 20:34.17 | dpkg | Compiz was a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. Compiz hasn't been developed for some time and is no longer part of Debian (see bugs #719870 and #677864). Plenty of other window managers have the same features as compiz. For a list of available window managers, run «apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager». See also http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz http://www.compiz.org/ or #compiz on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:37.03 | skilz | Do you know another standalone opengl compositor? |
| 20:37.35 | skilz | How can I run a x session with 'mate-panel and cairo-dock and xcompmgr'? |
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| 20:38.53 | skilz | How can I run a x session with 'mate-panel and cairo-dock and xcompmgr'? |
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| 20:40.21 | RayzrShrp | would you guys say debian allows for much customization in the gnome 2 it comes with? |
| 20:40.53 | RayzrShrp | i'd like to change around the default icons and window borders and the like but im wondering if debian makes that easy or if a lot of that is hard coded and not easily changed |
| 20:41.14 | Mousey | RayzrShrp: that's not actually debian specific |
| 20:41.42 | skilz | Its easy |
| 20:41.55 | RayzrShrp | so gnomelook.com would be a good resource for taht |
| 20:42.03 | Mousey | your customizations, your changes to icons and whatstuff is all saved in -your- home directory, regardless of distribution |
| 20:42.08 | RayzrShrp | er gnome-look.org |
| 20:42.11 | r-x-w- | a I was all filthy lies. If you run dpkg-reconfigure locales with DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive it didn't set the correct default locale. |
| 20:42.34 | r-x-w- | I've never had that problem with Wheezy. |
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| 20:43.00 | RayzrShrp | Mousey, well yeah but say ubuntu would make doing that much harder with unity |
| 20:43.50 | mentor | RayzrShrp: Yes, but unity is not gnome 2 |
| 20:44.13 | RayzrShrp | mentor gotcha |
| 20:44.25 | RayzrShrp | so debian wheezy is using gnome2 correct |
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| 20:45.12 | RayzrShrp | the GTK 2.x |
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| 20:45.46 | mentor | RayzrShrp: Well, no, wheezy has GNOME 3 |
| 20:46.17 | RayzrShrp | is there a way to see which version i have installed without getting all crazy using dpkg and stuff |
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| 20:47.21 | mentor | RayzrShrp: Well, there's http://packages.debian.org/, but dpkg is fairly straightforward |
| 20:47.29 | RayzrShrp | looks like im running 3.14.1 according to dpkg -l | grep gnome |
| 20:47.44 | RayzrShrp | does that sound reasonable |
| 20:47.52 | mentor | RayzrShrp: dpkg -l gnome |
| 20:48.10 | RayzrShrp | wow nice thanks mentor |
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| 20:48.38 | mentor | RayzrShrp: You can find out how to use a command by reading the man page |
| 20:48.40 | RayzrShrp | pretty cryptic: 1:3.4+7+deb7u1 |
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| 20:52.16 | mentor | RayzrShrp: The number before the colon, :, is the package version epoch. It's basically a do over for the package version should the remaining version regress |
| 20:53.27 | RayzrShrp | mentor, i feel dumb lol |
| 20:53.39 | RayzrShrp | mentor, what does that mean like i'm a 5 year old |
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| 20:54.13 | mentor | RayzrShrp: Just ignore it |
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| 20:55.16 | RayzrShrp | lol easy enough |
| 20:55.27 | RayzrShrp | so 3.4 is the version |
| 20:55.49 | RayzrShrp | and 7 is the sub version and its for debian 7 |
| 20:55.59 | RayzrShrp | and not sure what u1 is |
| 20:56.01 | mentor | That sort of thing |
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| 20:56.45 | RayzrShrp | for the most part i can find stuff and get around in linux but things like this are annoying where its super cryptic and only package devs know what it means |
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| 20:59.19 | RayzrShrp | so im using gnome 3 and is metacity my default wm |
| 20:59.27 | RayzrShrp | or is gnome the wm |
| 21:00.23 | jsndjxjsjndjd | is there anything ti consider when installing Debian in an SSD alongside Windows 8? ext4 needs to correct FS errors from time to time |
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| 21:07.36 | skilz | Whats the command to copy the install iso to a usb stick? |
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| 21:08.52 | Shadow_7 | skilz: dd ? or rsync if you've already setup partitioning and filesystems. |
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| 21:08.58 | Celphish | Got a weird question for ya, is there any security-downsides of |
| 21:09.00 | Celphish | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.00 | Celphish | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.02 | Celphish | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.05 | Celphish | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.07 | Celphish | wops |
| 21:09.18 | skilz | Nah I want to make a hybrid stick |
| 21:09.26 | skilz | I want to make a bootable usb stick |
| 21:09.41 | Celphish | let me try again, sorry: |
| 21:09.42 | Celphish | Got a weird question for ya, is there any security-downsides of putting a rtorrent-client and a plex media server on the fileserver (openmediavault, based on Debian), instead of having them separate? (all 3 are virtual, including the fileserver, and they are all on the same esxi-host) |
| 21:09.43 | Shadow_7 | skilz: normally dd if=image.iso of=/dev/... |
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| 21:10.46 | Shadow_7 | Celphish: security downside of having a firewall that allows ALL of that instead of one part of it. |
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| 21:11.25 | Celphish | Shadow_7: well, no, I will still have a torrent-client and a plex-server, but right now they are all 3 separate virtual machines |
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| 21:11.44 | Celphish | and since the torrent-client and plex server all depend on the filserver, they might as well be the same machine, right? |
| 21:13.16 | Shadow_7 | security wise it's better to keep them separate. Performance wise it might be better to have it all one machine. Admin wise it is better... |
| 21:13.34 | jsndjxjsjndjd | if you have no firewall in between today, there is no security downside ;-) |
| 21:13.40 | Shadow_7 | security wise, if one breaks, does it break them all? |
| 21:14.07 | Shadow_7 | if you have no network, there is no security beyond physical security |
| 21:14.13 | Celphish | well, they are all 3 behind a firewall ofc, but there isn't one between them.. although, they have different rights on the fileserver |
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| 21:19.29 | Celphish | oh well, I guess I'll keep them separate |
| 21:19.32 | Celphish | thanks for the help := |
| 21:19.36 | Celphish | := |
| 21:19.38 | Celphish | :) |
| 21:19.39 | Celphish | * |
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| 21:31.24 | heaf888 | Whats the difference between firmware-linux-free and firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 21:33.07 | jolt | heaf888: some people only wants all-free OSes, so they can choose accordingly (open source drivers or proprietary) |
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| 21:33.57 | jolt | (or so I think) |
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| 21:34.25 | heaf888 | but if i install free version should i be able to run commercial products? |
| 21:34.53 | jolt | heaf888: It has to do with the license of the firmware drivers, not other software |
| 21:35.04 | heaf888 | oh |
| 21:35.06 | heaf888 | I understand |
| 21:35.27 | jolt | And some network cards etc are not fully supported by the free drivers. Which ones, I do not know, because I don't use it myself |
| 21:36.12 | heaf888 | I think its free version is everyone is able to modify source code |
| 21:36.29 | heaf888 | the proprietary version only people who made the driver may change its source |
| 21:36.35 | heaf888 | is that right? |
| 21:37.15 | Fooman2011 | "./../include/bitstrm.hpp:48:21: fatal error: istream.h: No such file or directory" could you tell me where to find istream.h please ? |
| 21:38.16 | Shadow_7 | apt-file find istream.h |
| 21:38.17 | jolt | heaf888: exactly |
| 21:38.34 | heaf888 | okay |
| 21:38.48 | heaf888 | now |
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| 21:39.01 | heaf888 | jolt, i have only free version |
| 21:39.09 | heaf888 | why is that? |
| 21:39.20 | heaf888 | in synaptic :) |
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| 21:40.14 | jolt | heaf888: you probably need to add "non-free" to your sources.list |
| 21:40.34 | heaf888 | oh that was that guy telling me in the other irc channel :) |
| 21:40.40 | heaf888 | i get it now |
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| 21:40.41 | jolt | http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib |
| 21:40.42 | jolt | or soe |
| 21:40.46 | jolt | -e |
| 21:41.31 | heaf888 | jolt , it all depends on your hardware is that right too? |
| 21:41.46 | heaf888 | the non free or free version it all depends on ur hardware? |
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| 21:42.10 | jolt | heaf888: I dont use it, so I dont know. But that sounds right |
| 21:42.17 | heaf888 | ok :) |
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| 21:43.58 | Fooman2011 | ...I'm desperate... To use a jar file I need to compile mpeg4ip server... after 4 Makefile patch I get the error istream.h not found... and I don't know what to do now... apt-file didn't give me a correct istream.h file |
| 21:44.49 | petn-randall | Fooman2011: Why do you need to compile "mpeg4ip server" for a jar file? |
| 21:44.53 | Fooman2011 | maybe it is too oder |
| 21:45.35 | Fooman2011 | petn-randall: I dont know, it is in the readme file.... this jar use ffmpeg, witch use mpeg4ip maybe |
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| 21:46.50 | Shadow_7 | Fooman2011: so dovecot-dev wasn't what you needed? |
| 21:47.17 | heaf888 | any developers of debian here? |
| 21:47.39 | Fooman2011 | Shadow_7: I don't think so... but I try ok |
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| 21:48.00 | heaf888 | I have question for the developers of debian be here please |
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| 21:48.53 | AndroidGol | hi a raspeberry with debian is better than a android device box? |
| 21:48.59 | vook | I'm looking for a debian lenny repo pool, or wherever a dsc for ganglia-3.0.X may be. I've found etch and squeeze, but no lenny. |
| 21:49.35 | Shadow_7 | AndroidGol: depends on your need. RPi only has a 700MHz cpu. |
| 21:49.36 | cinnamon | hey guys im new to debian and i was just curious if anyone is good here with usb network adapters? |
| 21:49.46 | petn-randall | heaf888: No surveys please, just ask your question. |
| 21:49.49 | Fooman2011 | Shadow_7: I tried, still istream.h not found error |
| 21:49.57 | heaf888 | okay |
| 21:50.05 | AndroidGol | is using a M3 media box board running Android 2.3.4 (20120107) |
| 21:50.19 | Shadow_7 | Fooman2011: libboost has istream.hpp |
| 21:50.20 | heaf888 | how are the chances that gnome or xfc is going to be default? |
| 21:50.24 | AndroidGol | my device is a m1 not a m3 |
| 21:50.27 | lnxslck | i run a raspberry with xbmc on it |
| 21:50.29 | lnxslck | it works ok |
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| 21:50.43 | petn-randall | heaf888: There's no default, only things you pick during install ... |
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| 21:50.44 | Fooman2011 | Shadow_7: i clearly requires istream.h not hpp |
| 21:50.51 | Fooman2011 | I have found this: http://www.rpmseek.com/rpm-pl/mpeg4ip-server.html?hl=com&cx=0:: |
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| 21:51.02 | Shadow_7 | My pi has debian jessie on it. with a few source additions for GPU stuffs |
| 21:51.02 | Fooman2011 | Which seeems offer compiler packages |
| 21:51.10 | heaf888 | petn-randall , http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/debian-8-0-switches-xfce-default |
| 21:51.30 | Fooman2011 | I'm on wheezy amd64, can I use those packages ? |
| 21:51.37 | jmcnaught | heaf888: it doesn't really matter wheter gnome or xfce or anything else is the default, you can use any desktop environment or window manager in the Debian repositories (there are several) |
| 21:51.39 | AndroidGol | my device is a m1 800 mhz and 512 mb ram arm v7 |
| 21:51.45 | heaf888 | ok |
| 21:51.50 | cinnamon | here is the link: https://wiki.debian.org/carl9170#Atheros_AR9170_devices_.28carl9170.29 and when im on wired connection deb runs just fine but when i connect the wireless network usb adapter in, it works, but not very well.... when i say not very well i mean, i can barely browse the internet before it completely gives in. i know it works fine beca |
| 21:51.50 | cinnamon | use i have another computer upstairs that is running windows 7 64-bit and it runs perfectly fine. |
| 21:51.53 | Shadow_7 | Fooman2011: alien can convert rpm's to deb's |
| 21:51.59 | petn-randall | heaf888: Doesn't surprise me that a Ubuntu site doesn't have a clue about Debian. Even *if* there was a default, why do you care? You can still pick something else. |
| 21:52.19 | Shadow_7 | Fooman2011: not that that will be what you need, but you can at least undo it with the package management system |
| 21:52.22 | heaf888 | petn-randall i don't like default , i want to pick between it |
| 21:52.40 | heaf888 | Every user deserves the right to pick between environments. |
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| 21:53.03 | Fooman2011 | Shadow_7: In this page, at bottom they are debian packages |
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| 21:53.21 | Fooman2011 | Shadow_7: They are compatible with my wheezy ? |
| 21:53.29 | heaf888 | for example if there is only steam , that would be a disaster |
| 21:53.39 | Shadow_7 | Fooman2011: maybe? only one way to tell. dpkg -i <file.deb> |
| 21:53.48 | Fooman2011 | oki try thanks |
| 21:54.16 | heaf888 | anyways i asked my question thanks :) |
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| 21:54.43 | Shadow_7 | There were games before steam |
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| 21:55.23 | Shadow_7 | not that many of the makers and distributers there of made enough to stay in business. loki |
| 21:55.28 | heaf888 | Guys this is what i have Radeon ati mobility hd 5650 1GB will it work with firmware-linux-free version? |
| 21:55.48 | Shadow_7 | heaf888: is it of the ati-legacy variety? |
| 21:55.52 | cinnamon | here is the link: https://wiki.debian.org/carl9170#Atheros_AR9170_devices_.28carl9170.29 and when im on wired connection deb runs just fine but when i connect the wireless network usb adapter in, it works, but not very well.... when i say not very well i mean, i can barely browse the internet before it completely gives in. i know it works fine beca |
| 21:55.53 | cinnamon | use i have another computer upstairs that is running windows 7 64-bit and it runs perfectly fine. |
| 21:56.14 | cinnamon | if im in the wrong place for support let me know... i apologize in advanced. |
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| 21:57.05 | JasonO | hid3, I'm having trouble with scp it's giving me a blank line |
| 21:57.06 | heaf888 | Shadow_7 ati legacy? |
| 21:57.10 | JasonO | *HI |
| 21:57.11 | Shadow_7 | heaf888: I have an hd4550 and it works fine with fglrx for <= 3.4.x kernels. And with radeon driver for > 3.4.x kernels |
| 21:57.30 | Shadow_7 | heaf888: from the ati/amd driver download page. |
| 21:57.36 | AndroidGol | has the raspeberry a good browser for esplore the net? |
| 21:57.49 | AndroidGol | explore |
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| 21:57.56 | heaf888 | AndroidGol, u can install firefox |
| 21:58.03 | Shadow_7 | AndroidGol: as good as any linux distro. midori is decent on it due to limited ram |
| 21:58.17 | JasonO | I get this line after I run the command: ___ _ _ ____ ___ ___ __ __ _ |
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| 21:58.41 | heaf888 | Shadow_7, I am scared that my computer won't boot and i need to reinstall |
| 21:58.42 | Shadow_7 | JasonO: which command? hangman? |
| 21:58.45 | Fooman2011 | Shadow_7: The package requires dependecies, not found too.... Other idea ? |
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| 21:59.25 | AndroidGol | in my device m1 and in my device m6 2 core the firefox run very bad and very heavy with rapeberry firefox run with speed? |
| 21:59.31 | Shadow_7 | Fooman2011: apt-file + dpkg-query can help you find equivalent packages. Not that they'll meet the reqs, unless you're on sid for debian |
| 21:59.41 | JasonO | Shadow_7: scp |
| 22:00.33 | Shadow_7 | AndroidGol: speed is relative. |
| 22:01.05 | Shadow_7 | AndroidGol: the RPi is equivalent to a mid-grade laptop from 2002. |
| 22:01.42 | Shadow_7 | except not costing > $1K in decade old dollars |
| 22:02.05 | some-cowbell | does kde have special features or api calls that window managers that are aware of kde use? |
| 22:02.08 | AndroidGol | firefos is the the worse browser in my devices android of 1 core and 2 core and the firmware is not the reason |
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| 22:02.18 | yofun | Would anyone be interested in buying http://lovethedeb.org? I brought the domain for a friend for him to start a deb forum. But he's no longer working on it so anyways I plan on renewing it for 10 years and sell it for at least $70 |
| 22:03.04 | phogg | yofun: Or you could sell it to a "People named Deborah" support group. |
| 22:03.09 | Shadow_7 | firefox is basically iceweasel in the repos. And not a good choice for "performant" browsing. |
| 22:03.49 | yofun | phogg: people named deboarah? |
| 22:03.56 | AndroidGol | firefos in android need a hardware of 4 cores for run good i think |
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| 22:04.23 | Shadow_7 | The RK3288 quad should be decent for most modern needs. |
| 22:04.41 | some-cowbell | Shadow_7: in your exp, does ff/icew tend to use/leak ram? why is it so bad? |
| 22:04.43 | phogg | yofun: no? Not sure what you mean |
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| 22:04.59 | yofun | 5:03 PM <phogg> yofun: Or you could sell it to a "People named Deborah" support group. |
| 22:05.39 | vook | how can I prevent a service from automatically starting after installation? |
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| 22:06.02 | phogg | yofun: Deborah. It's a personal name which is reasonably common, but I am implying that people who have this name are pitiable and in need of a forum in which to talk about their plight. |
| 22:06.08 | Shadow_7 | some-cowbell: it doesn't use the dri abilities and hogs a lot of ram. Plus flash and java can slow it down. And google content tends to favor the chrome. i.e. some videos don't play (in posted recently) in iceweasel. |
| 22:06.11 | phogg | yofun: It was a kind of a joke. |
| 22:06.21 | Shadow_7 | if posted... they play fine later... |
| 22:06.27 | some-cowbell | that depends on what you have running all the services... systemd? bsdinit? something else? |
| 22:06.28 | jww | vook: you can use update-rc.d remove |
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| 22:06.59 | yofun | Ah phogg Well I figured Lovethedeb.org would be a nice debian related forum for support etc |
| 22:07.03 | AndroidGol | the browser most fast for a hardware device with android 2.3.4 is opera mini or is there another browser faster for those devices? |
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| 22:07.52 | Shadow_7 | dwb is pretty performant, if you compile the latest version from sources |
| 22:07.54 | some-cowbell | AndroidGol, I want to add another source of info: you could try #android |
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| 22:08.22 | AndroidGol | in android they no response |
| 22:08.58 | AndroidGol | but as android is linux i try here |
| 22:09.13 | yofun | I would like to believe selling a .org domain that's registered for 10 years for $70 is a good offer right? Because a normal .org domain is about $14/yearly 14 * 10 = $140 |
| 22:09.24 | Shadow_7 | AndroidGol: try ##linux |
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| 22:09.49 | AndroidGol | linux they alway put me a ban |
| 22:09.53 | some-cowbell | oh ok. usually, they can be asleep/working/whatever... ask and stay there |
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| 22:09.58 | Shadow_7 | yofun: you can buy domains for $2+ per year.... so $20+ for 10 years |
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| 22:10.24 | yofun | Shadow_7: $2 per year? Whwe? |
| 22:10.27 | yofun | Where? |
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| 22:10.53 | yofun | I only seen $3 per year..and it's a non known source. Actually a contact |
| 22:11.32 | Shadow_7 | normally goes with the hosting package. $2.49.. but even at $3, for 10 years that's $30 |
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| 22:12.27 | yofun | Shadow_7: I meant domain it's self. Most of the time with a hosting package you don't get ownership of it. :p |
| 22:12.31 | AndroidGol | is there a raspeberry with a tuner tdt and a debian all in one ? |
| 22:12.55 | yofun | A .org domain is $14/yearly from any public registar |
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| 22:13.13 | yofun | Well..some do a .99 cents for the first year |
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| 22:13.22 | Shadow_7 | AndroidGol: only has usb add-ons. The hummingboard is similar to a pi with a 1.2GHz dual core. |
| 22:13.42 | AndroidGol | ok tdt usb for hardware |
| 22:13.44 | Shadow_7 | Although stuff like the minux neo x7+ is a better value |
| 22:14.58 | Shadow_7 | the x9 in 2015 should be kind of awesome |
| 22:15.00 | AndroidGol | i like the devices with a tuner tdt inside not for usb hardware external |
| 22:16.10 | vook | jww: what I mean is, how can I prevent it from starting as aptitude is completing the install? |
| 22:16.11 | jmcnaught | re: android devices and domain name prices, there's probably a better channel to discuss such as #defocus or #debian-offtopic |
| 22:16.41 | AndroidGol | for this reason i buy me a device m1 very poor in hardware because i dont find it in devices with high hardware |
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| 22:18.39 | some-cowbell | vook, you'd have to unpack it, then edit the packaging scripts so it doesn't start the thing, then configure it |
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| 22:20.08 | some-cowbell | one level zoomed out, download the .deb, and use dpkg to first unpack, then edit, then use dpkg to configure |
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| 22:21.12 | vook | some-cowbell: it seems like a feature in apt-get/aptitude that prevents this would be nice, especially for services like dhcpd, which can muck things up quickly. |
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| 22:21.56 | some-cowbell | the only other thing, is not all packages are created by the same person... so each may have their own way of doing things. consequently, you will have to locate the script that starts it |
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| 22:22.31 | some-cowbell | vook, that would require there to be a new kind of package for services |
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| 22:24.59 | some-cowbell | is it a good idea? maybe. post on debian-devel@lists.debian.org to start a conversation about it. be prepared with a working example that you would share. |
| 22:25.14 | vook | ok, thanks |
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| 22:27.03 | some-cowbell | but for now, with your one situation, you'd either have to edit the scripts, or (much simpler) just install the package, let the thing start, then stop it. no editing, nothing special. |
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| 22:27.16 | cinnamon | has anyone freed up to answer some questions... message me plz and thanks! |
| 22:27.38 | some-cowbell | well I don't generally do help over msg. |
| 22:27.47 | cinnamon | i can ask here |
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| 22:28.02 | cinnamon | im trying to install cinnamon for deb 7 wheezy and its giving me some issues |
| 22:28.19 | cinnamon | sudo apt-get install cinnamon cinnamon-session cinnamon-settings |
| 22:28.36 | cinnamon | Reading package lists... Done |
| 22:28.36 | cinnamon | Building dependency tree |
| 22:28.36 | cinnamon | Reading state information... Done |
| 22:28.36 | cinnamon | E: Unable to locate package cinnamon-settings |
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| 22:30.01 | jmcnaught | vook: http://people.debian.org/~hmh/invokerc.d-policyrc.d-specification.txt might be of interest to you. |
| 22:33.11 | vook | thanks |
| 22:33.12 | tremon | vook: iirc dhcpd doesn't ship with any authoritative zones defined. So even though it starts automatically, it will not hand out any addresses |
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| 22:33.19 | profesr | helo |
| 22:33.41 | profesr | I am gonna install amd beta drivers is it possible that after i install |
| 22:33.47 | profesr | that the computer won't boot? |
| 22:34.28 | vook | tremon: I understand - but there are other examples when initially configuring a system on a network in which I would not want the service to begin listening immediately. |
| 22:35.06 | some-cowbell | one possibility: leave them unpacked but unconfigured |
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| 22:35.25 | some-cowbell | another, install and stop them |
| 22:35.33 | Shadow_7 | vook: or leave the network down until you can deal with those services. |
| 22:35.40 | tremon | vook: sure, I thought you were concerned about this specific service. The canonical way to do this in debian is for the maintainer to ship an /etc/default/$pkg file that should be edited before the service will start |
| 22:35.51 | vook | some-cowbell: that's basically what I do and it does work. |
| 22:35.57 | vook | Shadow_7: I'm configuring the system remotely |
| 22:35.59 | jmcnaught | profesr: how are you planning to install these drivers? In Debian is always best to use the packaged version |
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| 22:36.01 | tremon | however it's up to the maintainer to ship it like that |
| 22:36.21 | kinetik | would anyone be able to assist me in properly installing cinnamon for deb 7? |
| 22:36.49 | some-cowbell | sometimes sudo doesn't set up root's "preferred" env correctly, either log in as root instead, or make sure (at least) PATH is set properly. Other than that, you might want to run apt-get update |
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| 22:37.06 | vook | some-cowbell: but if I miss something and/or fail to bring the service down in time. In this case, it's a replacement firewall that I'm configuring remotely. |
| 22:37.09 | profesr | jcmnaught: where is the packaged version? |
| 22:37.22 | some-cowbell | what do you mean by "in time"? |
| 22:37.26 | jmcnaught | kinetik: it doesn't look like cinnamon is available for wheezy yet |
| 22:37.36 | tremon | kinetik: that's not shipped in debian stable. How are you trying to install it? |
| 22:38.07 | jmcnaught | profesr: i suggest you use tab completion for nicks because you got mine wrong, but yes the fglrx drivers are packages for Debian |
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| 22:38.16 | hellyeah | he |
| 22:38.17 | hellyeah | y |
| 22:38.21 | vook | some-cowbell: in-time meaning before some sort of disruption occurs. I have had this happen with dhcpd before (clients started grabbing leases from the new server) in which case I had to scramble to correct the sitation. |
| 22:38.29 | hellyeah | what is the situtation of debian? |
| 22:38.31 | some-cowbell | tab completion in irc sucks... |
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| 22:39.20 | jmcnaught | profesr: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary the instructions to follow are here. There's also a slightly newer version in wheezy-backports |
| 22:39.35 | profesr | I am using jessie |
| 22:39.47 | profesr | is it possible that it will work ? |
| 22:39.55 | kinetik | when i try to install cinnamon for deb 7 it tells me unable to locate cinnamon-settings, would anyone know a way around this? |
| 22:39.55 | some-cowbell | which probably doesn't have backports yet |
| 22:39.59 | jmcnaught | profesr: oh well you should probably ask in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net as the topic of this channel suggests |
| 22:40.12 | profesr | ok |
| 22:40.28 | some-cowbell | kinetik, you can try backporting the package and installing the result |
| 22:41.11 | kinetik | not quite sure how to do that, im new to deb 7 |
| 22:41.21 | kinetik | well.... and linux in general |
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| 22:42.03 | some-cowbell | hmm. it's still possible you could do it, and it will require you to learn a lot of things pretty fast |
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| 22:43.34 | some-cowbell | if you have the disk space to install another debian, you could try installing jessie (debian-8?) |
| 22:44.17 | muttishere | have you been able to install mutt on debian? particularly using gmail imap with two factor authentication? |
| 22:44.34 | some-cowbell | or you could try upgrading. all these things are pretty involved tho. |
| 22:45.31 | some-cowbell | , info cinnamon |
| 22:45.33 | judd | No package named 'cinnamon' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 22:45.54 | some-cowbell | , info cinnamon --release=jessie |
| 22:45.55 | judd | No package named 'cinnamon' was found in jessie/i386. |
| 22:46.30 | vook | it's in sid |
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| 22:47.34 | some-cowbell | , info cinnamon --release=sid |
| 22:47.35 | judd | Package cinnamon (x11, optional) in sid/i386: Innovative and comfortable desktop. Version: 1.7.4-2.2+b2; Size: 451.3k; Installed: 2341k; Homepage: http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/cinnamon |
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| 23:15.35 | Gnomethrower | Hi there |
| 23:15.43 | Gnomethrower | Having issues installing build-essential on Debian 7: http://privatepaste.com/5397c19800 |
| 23:15.48 | Gnomethrower | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 23:15.53 | Gnomethrower | seeing it across 3 different Debian 7 servers |
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| 23:16.20 | Gnomethrower | sets channel limit to 4631 |
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| 23:17.42 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: your link said paste not found. Could you use http://paste.debian.net/ instead? |
| 23:17.55 | Gnomethrower | jmcnaught: sure |
| 23:18.43 | Gnomethrower | http://paste.debian.net/109264/ |
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| 23:22.03 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: Have you used any third party repositories, or Debian non-stable repos (testing or unstable?). |
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| 23:22.18 | Gnomethrower | jmcnaught: negative. |
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| 23:25.34 | woshty | Anyone else having issues with the fan not being managed properly on acer laptops? |
| 23:25.36 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: maybe you're missing deb-src lines in your sources.list? If you put your sources.list in a paste link we could take a look. Or check https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList which has an example you could follow |
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| 23:26.46 | Gnomethrower | jmcnaught: across 3 different servers? |
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| 23:27.27 | Gnomethrower | http://paste.debian.net/109266/ |
| 23:28.33 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: well that does look fine to me. You haven't previously used other repos to install anything and then removed them? And you're all updated? |
| 23:28.43 | Gnomethrower | Yep, yep and yep. |
| 23:28.56 | Gnomethrower | (as in, no I haven't, and yes I'm updated) |
| 23:29.05 | woshty | It does say something about broken packages being held in the last line .. |
| 23:29.40 | Gnomethrower | woshty: how do you check for those? |
| 23:29.53 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: yeah, do you know which packages are broken? "apt-get install -f" will attempt to fix broken packages (see the apt-get man page for the details) |
| 23:30.15 | woshty | hmm, something like dpkg -l | grep "ih " ..? There certainly is a nicer way .. |
| 23:30.36 | Gnomethrower | apt-get install -f gives exactly the same output |
| 23:31.29 | woshty | my suggestion does not work .. |
| 23:31.49 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: aptitude search '?broken' <- should show broken packages but i'm not 100% sure because none of mine are broken |
| 23:32.07 | Gnomethrower | jmcnaught: no results |
| 23:33.52 | woshty | aptitude search ~i | grep ih does output held packages .. |
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| 23:34.40 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: "aptitude why-not" might help too |
| 23:35.29 | woshty | On reading the manuals .. aptitude search ~ahold is even nicer |
| 23:36.02 | Gnomethrower | woshty: no results |
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| 23:38.50 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: what do you get for "apt-cache policy libc6-dev" ? |
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| 23:39.45 | Gnomethrower | http://paste.debian.net/109268/ |
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| 23:41.51 | Ritzton | Hello |
| 23:42.33 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: I just installed build-essential on a fresh Wheezy VM. Also the candidate to be installed for libc6-dev looks correct. Have you tried installing some of the dependencies for build-essential on their own, in particular the ones it's complaining about? (libc6-dev or g++) |
| 23:42.39 | Ritzton | I am sorry I have a problem with backup-manager on my debian server, I have noticed that all mysql files are empty and I don't know what is going wrong and what I could do to debug |
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| 23:43.33 | woshty | Gnomethrower: I would also have suggested that next. |
| 23:44.27 | Gnomethrower | that was one of the first things I tried |
| 23:44.27 | Gnomethrower | http://paste.debian.net/109269/ |
| 23:45.30 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: it wants to install libc6 2.18? What does "apt-cache policy libc6" say? |
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| 23:47.11 | asne | helo |
| 23:47.42 | Gnomethrower | http://paste.debian.net/109270/ |
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| 23:47.56 | Gnomethrower | (in reply to "what does apt-cache policy libc6 say) |
| 23:48.10 | jmcnaught | Ritzton: I'm not familiar with backup-manager, but generall the "mysqldump" command is used to backup mysql databases to text files |
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| 23:48.23 | asne | jcmnaught can u help me |
| 23:48.30 | asne | sorry for asking |
| 23:48.31 | theprovenone | Concerned about your online privacy? vpn.scay.net - don't let thieves to intercept your data! Use our free OpenVPN VPN |
| 23:48.43 | Ritzton | jmcnaught> is an extra package required ? |
| 23:49.03 | Gnomethrower | is idoru a bot, or really just that fast? |
| 23:49.43 | asne | sudo -i apt-get update && sudo -i apt-get dist-upgrade what does this do? |
| 23:49.48 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: there's your problem. At one point someone has installed libc6 2.18 for some reason. Wheezy uses libc6 2.13. Perhaps it was installed with a .deb file using "dpkg -i" if you've never had any other repos in sources.list? You need to replace that libc6 package with the official one from the Debian repo |
| 23:50.31 | asne | jmcnaught, what is the way to do it? |
| 23:50.53 | asne | sudo -i and then apt-get update && sudo -i apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:51.00 | asne | or like above? |
| 23:51.00 | woshty | jmcnaught: But there might have been a reason for getting a newer version .. other stuff might break |
| 23:51.20 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: aptitude search "?installed?not(?origin(debian))" <-- this command should list installed packages that aren't from Debian |
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| 23:52.33 | asne | guys im trying to install a driver fglrx but it says dependency et cetera libfglrx |
| 23:52.35 | jmcnaught | Ritzton: mysqldump is in the mysql-client-5.5 package |
| 23:52.49 | aeromatt | all my files I am accessing over samba in a folder are not visible to my windows users, but I can see them in putty |
| 23:52.52 | aeromatt | whats going on? |
| 23:52.58 | asne | some guy told me to do this command su -i followed by apt-get update && sudo -i apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:53.02 | asne | is that safe? |
| 23:53.04 | jmcnaught | woshty: possibly, but Gnomethrower was pretty certain the system was all-Debian |
| 23:53.29 | ompaul | asne: some guy didn't tell you to do that |
| 23:53.34 | Ritzton | jmcnaught> ok so what is going wrong ? I shoudl try to do mysqldummp manualy ? |
| 23:53.40 | ompaul | jmcnaught: that was me in #debian-next |
| 23:53.57 | asne | you told me it |
| 23:54.00 | asne | su -i |
| 23:54.04 | ompaul | no |
| 23:54.06 | asne | apt-get update && sudo -i apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:54.08 | jmcnaught | Ritzton: Have you read all of backup-manager's documentation? |
| 23:54.17 | ompaul | asne: that wasn't me check your scroll back |
| 23:54.21 | asne | ok |
| 23:54.24 | ompaul | and btw two networks same questino |
| 23:54.33 | ompaul | bad bad practice |
| 23:54.35 | asne | its allowed |
| 23:54.42 | asne | i don't trust people sorry :) |
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| 23:54.44 | woshty | aeromatt: the directory is just shown as being empty or do you get an error message? |
| 23:54.55 | jmcnaught | asne: if you're not sure what apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade does, you should read the Debian Administrator's Handbook and/or the Debian Reference and the apt-get man page |
| 23:54.58 | aeromatt | just shows as empty |
| 23:55.15 | jmcnaught | ompaul: ? i'm not in #debian-next |
| 23:55.17 | Ritzton | <jmcnaught> I have spent 2 hours reading documentations yes to figure out why my files were empty and I found out it would be a good idea to ask here |
| 23:55.31 | woshty | aeromatt: are you sure that it actually is the same directory being shown? |
| 23:55.31 | ompaul | jmcnaught: I am --- and I'm being mis quoted here |
| 23:55.33 | Gnomethrower | http://paste.debian.net/109271/ |
| 23:55.41 | Gnomethrower | (jmcnaught) - have to go, though |
| 23:55.41 | asne | ompaul |
| 23:55.47 | Gnomethrower | thanks for your help |
| 23:55.47 | asne | I think i misquoted you |
| 23:55.47 | jmcnaught | ompaul: sorry i was confused, got it now |
| 23:55.47 | asne | sorry |
| 23:55.50 | Gnomethrower | will investigate more after the weekend |
| 23:55.59 | aeromatt | does it mean anything if the folders are highlighted green |
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| 23:56.24 | jmcnaught | Gnomethrower: good luck :) it looks related to non-Debian packages though, maybe someone else on your team has some clues |
| 23:56.30 | aeromatt | pretty sure, the files were visible yesterday |
| 23:57.24 | jmcnaught | Ritzton: you could try using mysqldump manually to make sure that it works. Presumably backup-manager has a way of calling mysqldump for you via a script of some sort? It should cover that in the backup-manager documentation |
| 23:58.01 | woshty | aeromatt: Have you tried rebooting your windows computer? |
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| 23:58.32 | aeromatt | no |
| 23:58.34 | aeromatt | should i |
| 23:58.55 | jmcnaught | asne: seriously though, if you don't know what those commands do then you haven't read enough documentation |
| 23:59.03 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell asne about grounding |
| 23:59.11 | woshty | aeromatt: If it worked with that configuration and just stopped, I would at least try that first. |
| 23:59.19 | asne | jmcnaught , i have misquoted |
| 23:59.21 | aeromatt | ok |
| 23:59.23 | aeromatt | il try that |
| 23:59.56 | woshty | aeromatt: I more than once broke working stuff trying to fix it :) |
| 23:59.58 | ompaul | jmcnaught: fyi I threw them on /ignore on both networks |