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| 00:06.40 | DX099 | DX099, just did that, but eventually can't get past this : http://paste.debian.net/113481/ |
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| 00:07.07 | funnybutton | how do I get GPU accelerated video decode on Intel 4600 graphics on Debian? |
| 00:07.19 | DX099 | Brigo, debconf, just did that, but eventually can't get past this http://paste.debian.net/113481/ |
| 00:07.28 | v0tick | I swear I hate nvidia with a burning passion ;_; It just won't work on my pc |
| 00:08.01 | abrotman | funnybutton: shuld just work |
| 00:08.10 | funnybutton | v0tick, buy an Intel 4600 Intel Core i7 |
| 00:08.12 | funnybutton | abrotman, well it won't |
| 00:08.41 | funnybutton | please helpies |
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| 00:09.22 | v0tick | funnybutton: But I need a graphics processor, that is the problem |
| 00:09.42 | v0tick | funnybutton: I'm using the geforce 750ti and it isn't working no matter what drivers I've put |
| 00:10.07 | funnybutton | bwahahahah, Nvidia must be terrible then |
| 00:10.09 | debconf | DX099 so just wait a bit |
| 00:10.14 | debconf | tomorrow will be fix |
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| 00:13.39 | DX099 | debconf, tomorrow ? you mean it's on the server's end ? |
| 00:14.05 | themill | DX099: I'd suggest you delete that file and then run apt-get update again |
| 00:14.42 | debconf | DX099 http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=774 |
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| 00:15.27 | abrotman | funnybutton: uname -r ? |
| 00:15.30 | themill | debconf, DX099: that's not relevant here |
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| 00:15.58 | debconf | thats all...i already told you to try clean and autoclean, then you can try to delete /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* and /var/lib/apt/lists/* |
| 00:16.09 | debconf | if still not work, just wait as the link said |
| 00:16.22 | themill | "clean" and "autoclean" are also irrelevant here |
| 00:16.56 | debconf | y |
| 00:17.01 | debconf | so...just wait |
| 00:17.05 | themill | no |
| 00:17.12 | themill | stop making crap up |
| 00:17.17 | DX099 | debconf, I did clean and autoclean. So now I have to wait , |
| 00:17.32 | themill | DX099: did you delete the file apt was complaining about? |
| 00:17.51 | funnybutton | WHOA |
| 00:17.53 | funnybutton | IT WORKS |
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| 00:19.41 | DX099 | themill, yes, made a backup and tried deleting those, still the same errors |
| 00:20.20 | LIERO | cq dx |
| 00:20.44 | themill | DX099: can you please run "rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*; apt-get update" for us and pastebin the entire output? |
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| 00:22.19 | skaag | I have a USB Wifi adapter that won't power on during boot... I have to unplug it and replug it after debian finished booting, for it to power on and obtain a connection |
| 00:22.29 | skaag | any ideas how to resolve this and have it work on first boot? |
| 00:22.44 | abrotman | how is it configured? |
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| 00:23.25 | skaag | network manager |
| 00:23.45 | skaag | maybe because it's plugged to a hub? |
| 00:23.53 | abrotman | Couldn't answer that .. try without |
| 00:24.27 | v0tick | Alright guys, I'm using the geforce 750ti as mentioned and trying to run xserver so I can get KDE up. Will this work as a driver? http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/70744/en-us |
| 00:24.44 | v0tick | As in, if I just use wget on it and run, will I be able to use this version? It is the only thing that lists my current graphics card |
| 00:24.52 | themill | skaag: what does "nmcli dev" say immediately after boot? |
| 00:25.20 | skaag | it doesn't see it until I unplug and replug |
| 00:25.35 | skaag | same with nm-tool which only shows the wired interface (eth) |
| 00:25.43 | DX099 | themill, here it is : http://paste.debian.net/113483/ |
| 00:25.44 | themill | skaag: is the device listed in "lsusb" immediately after boot? |
| 00:25.49 | skaag | i'll try to stick ath9k in /etc/modules at the end |
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| 00:27.54 | themill | DX099: so you have a proxy between you and the mirror? Are you on a wireless network that might be asking for a password/ |
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| 00:29.40 | DX099 | themill, I'm running it from a chroot |
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| 00:31.01 | themill | There's nothing wrong with the files on the mirrors (so the "wait" strategy isn't going to help at all). We need to work out why the files that are on the mirrors and OK turn into files you your machine that are not OK. |
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| 00:41.02 | skaag | themill: ok so after boot, I see the ath9k module, ath, ath9k_hw, ath9k_common, but not ath9k_htc |
| 00:41.19 | skaag | after I unplug and replug the device, ath9k_htc gets loaded |
| 00:41.26 | skaag | then the device suddenly works |
| 00:41.41 | themill | fun |
| 00:41.41 | skaag | it also uses firmware files in /lib/firmware/ (loads them to the device) |
| 00:41.54 | skaag | yah... I tried adding ath9k_htc to /etc/modules, rebooting again to test |
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| 00:43.48 | DX099 | well, looks like things are stuck... I'll get back to it tomorrow. Thanks to everyone for their help ! |
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| 00:44.58 | skaag | it loaded, but the device didn't power on |
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| 00:48.19 | v0tick | Nearly a week now, really wanting to use Debian and it is looking awesome; but due to Nvidia restrictions I'll have to hold off until there are driver updates that meet the strict needs of my graphics card :( |
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| 00:52.11 | Arr0way | hmmm, mounting a nas inside of a vmware NAT out onto LAN... getting perm denied. tried adding both IP's on the NAS fs perms (host and client NAT'd address) |
| 00:52.21 | vimel | v0tick: what driver are you using? |
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| 00:53.22 | v0tick | vimel: I got all the recent ones from dpkg |
| 00:53.39 | vimel | do you have a X config file? |
| 00:53.42 | v0tick | vimel: Used wheezy backports and all that. Found the debian site lists that it doesn't support 750ti though |
| 00:53.57 | v0tick | vimel: Yeah I had an x config file; but when I run startx or startkde it still doesn't work |
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| 00:54.34 | v0tick | vimel: I'm thinking what I'll do is keep using Linux Mint this next year during University; but study a lot about Debian and stay around irc here learning, then after the year is done for Uni I'll hope the drivers are available and I'll take another crack at it... |
| 00:55.05 | vimel | v0tick: did you follow this guide? |
| 00:55.06 | vimel | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 00:55.16 | v0tick | Yeah, all the way through a few times now vimel :( |
| 00:55.26 | v0tick | Like I said the listing they show doesn't even containing the gtx750ti |
| 00:55.31 | v0tick | But it has almost everything else |
| 00:55.36 | vimel | when you scroll down to CONFIGURATION did you create your nvidia config as recommended? |
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| 00:55.50 | vimel | have you tried using Jessie? |
| 00:56.06 | v0tick | vimel: Jessie as in the backported version? |
| 00:56.11 | v0tick | I'm using wheezy with backports |
| 00:56.24 | vimel | maybe jessie has a driver |
| 00:56.28 | vimel | jessie as in unstable |
| 00:56.33 | v0tick | Yeah maybe |
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| 00:56.38 | v0tick | But wouldn't it be on backports then? |
| 00:56.46 | vimel | im using jessie and an old gtx card |
| 00:56.52 | vimel | gaming and everything here |
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| 00:56.58 | v0tick | Plus I'm so far behind now after countless hours of doing this lol, I need to get an OS up pronto so I can start the math course I'm supposed to be doing online |
| 00:57.12 | vimel | true |
| 00:57.21 | v0tick | I've learned a lot though, and love this OS/community. Really treated me well |
| 00:57.26 | vimel | well try installing jessie from scratch |
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| 00:57.32 | vimel | ya good ppl here |
| 00:57.32 | v0tick | I may try installing it if I get time yeah |
| 00:57.42 | vimel | some are meh but thats everywhere you go. |
| 00:58.27 | vimel | v0tick: you could always upgrade to jessie |
| 00:58.34 | v0tick | I could yeah |
| 00:58.43 | v0tick | I may as well just wait until it is stable though, since I have no rush |
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| 00:58.56 | v0tick | And like I said time is a big factor, I'm already 2 days behind of my studies ;_; |
| 00:59.32 | vimel | i said unstable jessie is testing my bad |
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| 01:00.07 | vimel | and its not so bad. ive been using it since for months. although if you are new you may want to wait for stable. |
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| 01:10.17 | skaag | ok I just discoverd the Atheros USB Wifi device works OK if I plug it into the main USB and not via the USB Hub. |
| 01:10.26 | skaag | Any way to make it work with the hub? |
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| 01:11.05 | TJ- | skaag: power the hub if it is unpowered, possibly. Some devices just don't like being on a hub |
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| 01:13.59 | skaag | it is powered |
| 01:14.03 | skaag | very strange |
| 01:14.06 | skaag | i'll post a bug |
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| 01:23.14 | skaag | yah, works very well when it's not on the hub, just verified with another reboot |
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| 01:54.17 | beepie | !iproute2 |
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| 02:10.34 | cesurasean_ | hello |
| 02:10.43 | cesurasean_ | how do i copy a directory that has a space in the name of it? |
| 02:11.14 | TheChubu | i'd tell you, but i'd have to charge |
| 02:11.16 | heurist | cesurasean_: use tab auto-complettion. but you just put a \ in font of the space |
| 02:11.22 | TheChubu | damn |
| 02:11.23 | cafuego | cesurasean_: Use auto-completion on the name or escape the space with \. |
| 02:11.25 | TheChubu | now i can't charge |
| 02:11.28 | cafuego | snap! |
| 02:12.05 | cesurasean_ | thank you! |
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| 02:12.18 | heurist | cesurasean_: or quote with "... ..." |
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| 02:13.44 | cafuego | or '... ...' |
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| 02:15.05 | abrotman | Or stop naming things with spaces .. |
| 02:15.06 | yoLo_ | jmcnaught, just so i don't make any mistakes.. how do i go about to install java ? |
| 02:15.20 | yoLo_ | i require the latest version so run solr |
| 02:15.23 | cafuego | abrotman: True dat. This why underscore exists. |
| 02:15.29 | abrotman | dpkg: tell yoLo_ about install java |
| 02:15.42 | abrotman | cafuego: I've threatened people with broken thumbs for adding spaces :) |
| 02:15.57 | cafuego | abrotman: totes_with_you_on_that_one. |
| 02:16.11 | abrotman | heh |
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| 02:16.40 | TheChubu | "latest java version" being Java 8 or Java 7 with updates? |
| 02:16.49 | TheChubu | for Java 8 you'd have to download the .deb from Oracle |
| 02:16.58 | TheChubu | for Java 7 you can install OpenJDK from the package manager |
| 02:16.58 | yoLo_ | hmm.. |
| 02:17.10 | cafuego | Pretty sure solr just pulls java in as a depend when you install the package. |
| 02:17.20 | TheChubu | .... and that. |
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| 02:25.38 | ftc- | has anyone installed skype using their deb package? the massive number of 32bit dependencies has be a bit worried, so not sure if i should just run skype in the windows virtual machine, although it seems to affect the audio quality quite a bit. i'm on jessie too, so that might make the dependency stuff worse considering the their package is for wheezy. |
| 02:25.52 | bl4ckdu5t | Most networking tools aren't on my installation of Debian. I tried using arp, iptables, ipchains but they aren't available |
| 02:26.04 | bl4ckdu5t | Is there a package to get them all from at once? |
| 02:26.38 | bl4ckdu5t | or I have to search for each of them in the apt cache? |
| 02:28.38 | jmcnaught | bl4ckdu5t: "net-tools" is probably the package you're looking for. You can use "apt-file" to figure out which package to install for a particular file. "net-tools" is priority important, so it would normally be part of a standard install |
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| 02:29.41 | abrotman | ftc-: seems like you sohuld try the 32bit package first? |
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| 02:30.47 | nevermoreraven | why do people dislike gnome 3? |
| 02:30.48 | bl4ckdu5t | jmcnaught: apt-file arp ? |
| 02:30.51 | nevermoreraven | some* |
| 02:31.45 | bl4ckdu5t | nevermoreraven: It freezes my PC |
| 02:31.55 | bl4ckdu5t | Especially when I have tabs open in chrome |
| 02:32.04 | bl4ckdu5t | KDE survives it |
| 02:32.05 | abrotman | nevermoreraven: People are allowed to have opinions |
| 02:32.18 | jmcnaught | bl4ckdu5t: You can narrow it down a bit with something like "apt-file search bin/arp". You can also search package names and descriptions with "apt-cache search", and see if a package is installed with "apt-cache policy" |
| 02:32.34 | abrotman | nevermoreraven: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 02:33.01 | bl4ckdu5t | jmcnaught: apt-file doesn't seem to be available for me |
| 02:33.05 | nevermoreraven | what I meant was why did people make mate and cinnamon? |
| 02:33.07 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: so install it |
| 02:33.11 | abrotman | nevermoreraven: ask them, not us |
| 02:33.16 | nevermoreraven | is it cause you can't customize it? |
| 02:33.27 | nevermoreraven | oh okay |
| 02:33.27 | abrotman | nevermoreraven: ask them, not us .. we're not the developers |
| 02:33.30 | nevermoreraven | good idea |
| 02:33.44 | nevermoreraven | what channel is mate on? |
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| 02:33.46 | nevermoreraven | #mate ? |
| 02:33.57 | abrotman | I don't know .. /msg alis help |
| 02:34.04 | abrotman | or ask google |
| 02:36.00 | ftc- | abrotman: they only have one debian package, which is multiarch. but even if they had separate 32 and 64 bit ones i think it would still need all the 32bit dependencies. i don't think there's actually even a 64bit version of skype at all. |
| 02:36.21 | abrotman | ftc-: I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me .. |
| 02:37.10 | ftc- | i gave gnome3 a go and hated it. very uncustomisable, and didn't like the defaults. just installed kde a few days ago and i'm loving it, so many nice little things that make everything smooth, and heaps of options. |
| 02:37.28 | abrotman | ftc-: please stick to the things you need help with |
| 02:38.15 | ftc- | abrotman: you suggested a 32bit package, there's no option. |
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| 02:38.54 | abrotman | ftc-: you had anothe roption |
| 02:39.05 | abrotman | doesn't understand why Skype is so difficult, there's a wiki page on the damn thing |
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| 02:40.12 | ftc- | abrotman: what other option? i was just asking if anybody had experienced problems with it before i go ahead. |
| 02:40.22 | abrotman | ... |
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| 02:48.02 | b4tm4n | are there any cons to "dpkg --add-architecture i386" on a 64-bit debian instal? |
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| 02:48.50 | abrotman | Such as what? |
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| 02:48.59 | abrotman | What concerns do you have? |
| 02:49.02 | heurist | b4tm4n: cluttered package list and the installation of some 32 files. |
| 02:49.51 | b4tm4n | i've only run into a few cases where I couldn't find the 64-bit version of a package, and it seems like all the solutions were to add the x86 architecture |
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| 02:50.11 | b4tm4n | I don't really know what concerns I have - i guess that's why i was asking |
| 02:50.32 | heurist | b4tm4n: if you need 32 bit packages you need 32bit architecture. |
| 02:51.09 | b4tm4n | it seems like its not as seamless as it is in windows with running x86 on x64 |
| 02:51.17 | b4tm4n | (did i just get booted?) |
| 02:51.31 | abrotman | b4tm4n: it's not that bad .. |
| 02:51.49 | heurist | b4tm4n: windows installs the 32bit emulation layer already, linux gives you that choice. |
| 02:51.58 | b4tm4n | heurist, correct |
| 02:52.30 | b4tm4n | ok, thanks for the feedback and comments - i appreciate it |
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| 03:04.12 | bilgillz | Anyone know why I cannot add repositories |
| 03:04.51 | nevermoreraven | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:05.14 | nevermoreraven | does gnome 3 not support that? |
| 03:05.59 | abrotman | gnome3 does .. |
| 03:06.03 | abrotman | bilgillz: be less vague |
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| 03:07.42 | bilgillz | I type in man 5 sources.list I have no sources . Trying to add wheezy sources they won't stick |
| 03:08.02 | nevermoreraven | abrotman how do you change themes? |
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| 03:10.22 | LtL | bilgillz: edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a sensible editor and root permission. |
| 03:10.48 | _FBi | may I suggest nano |
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| 03:11.38 | jmcnaught | nevermoreraven: the package "gnome-tweak-tool" (aka Advanced Settings in the menus) lets you change themes in Gnome 3. |
| 03:13.44 | bilgillz | LtL: I have no display manager so can I edit in console . Please explain sensible editor |
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| 03:14.40 | LtL | bilgillz: yes you can use a console. sensible editor as in one you know and are comfortable using. |
| 03:15.07 | DanDare | likes Joe's own editor |
| 03:15.25 | LtL | bilgillz: nano would be a good choice for an editor |
| 03:17.05 | bilgillz | How might I obtain nano through console |
| 03:17.42 | LtL | bilgillz: it's likely installed already so type: nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:18.08 | nevermoreraven | what about vim? |
| 03:18.42 | LtL | nevermoreraven: lets not make it harder for the guy :) |
| 03:19.11 | bilgillz | Thank u |
| 03:19.29 | LtL | bilgillz: :) |
| 03:19.44 | jmcnaught | "sensible-editor" is a command too, that will run a sensible editor |
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| 03:20.48 | ElDiabolo | Actually my sensible-editor runs vim :) |
| 03:21.51 | jmcnaught | you can tell sensible-editor what you prefer with $EDITOR |
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| 03:23.52 | heurist | or update-altenatives |
| 03:24.03 | ftc- | haha, i had to run that to check if you were joking or not |
| 03:24.05 | heurist | with an r in it |
| 03:25.42 | jmcnaught | yeah, and the alternative to update is "editor" instead of "sensible-editor" |
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| 03:27.16 | heurist | editor does not obey $EDITOR though, only sensible-editor |
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| 03:32.46 | crn | what command replaced xterm in debian 7? |
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| 03:34.40 | jmcnaught | crn: x-terminal-emulator will launch a terminal, you can also just install xterm if you prefer it |
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| 03:35.02 | crn | jmcnaught, thanks. |
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| 03:50.01 | ghost3po | anyone ran into an issue on a debian variant where when using multiple monitors you have way too many workspaces at the bottom right and the logout button is duplicated the same quantity of times on the gui interface? |
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| 03:54.06 | dioz | the term "gui interface" has me hung up |
| 03:54.48 | ghost3po | lol touche. trying to get back into the linux world. using it as a buffer to get re firmiliar with it. |
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| 03:56.10 | ghost3po | if i open a terminal, it shows its open 6 times on the bottom when in actuality its only opened once. and on the workspace are on the bottom right, it shows up 6 times there as well. |
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| 03:59.48 | jmcnaught | ghost3po: it might help if you explain which desktop environment or window manager you're using. are you using debian or a variant? |
| 04:02.22 | ghost3po | kali-linux(debian variant) amd64 gnome 2 amd video cards with 3 monitors. |
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| 04:04.33 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell ghost3po -about kali |
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| 04:06.13 | ghost3po | yep. i'm waiting on a response from that room, but not getting a response yet so wanted to see if anybody here had ideas |
| 04:06.23 | kingsley | ghost3po: Was Kali-linux installed recently? |
| 04:06.33 | ghost3po | fresh install |
| 04:06.44 | ghost3po | well fresh install + updates + amd drivers |
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| 04:07.14 | jmcnaught | ghost3po: kali is not supported here, check the message from the dpkg bot |
| 04:07.57 | kingsley | ghost3po: For what it's worth, I humbly suggest: |
| 04:08.55 | kingsley | 1.) If you have not done so already, search Google's indices with key worlds like gnome kali terminal, |
| 04:09.17 | kingsley | 2.) ask in #gnome at gimpnet, |
| 04:09.55 | kingsley | 3.) consider replacing gnome with something like xfce. This recently worked for me. |
| 04:10.13 | kingsley | needs to go soon. |
| 04:10.16 | ghost3po | kingsley: thanks for the advise |
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| 04:10.38 | ghost3po | kingsley: advice* cant spell tonight lol |
| 04:10.47 | kingsley | ghost3po: You're welcome. |
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| 04:43.29 | cameron54545 | anyone get skype audio working via wine |
| 04:44.27 | cameron54545 | i find it weird that it detects my webcam but not my stereo / headphones and or mic |
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| 05:45.30 | bilgillz | So I was installing gnome 3 and I get this while retrieving filed http://i59.tinypic.com/24fwm5l.jpg |
| 05:46.03 | bilgillz | Says bug: soft lockup |
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| 05:50.20 | bilgillz | Anyone ever encounter this or know what's up with it |
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| 05:53.42 | Tordek | hi! |
| 05:53.49 | Tordek | update-notification-daemon claims there |
| 05:54.03 | Tordek | 's one update available, but aptitude says otherwise |
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| 06:16.48 | bilgillz | Hey my computer boots through console can anyone tell me how to install a desktop manager |
| 06:17.11 | Penix | bilgillz: desktop environment, or display manager? |
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| 06:20.52 | bilgillz | Well I just installed tasksel install gnome desktop |
| 06:21.07 | bilgillz | And I guess display manager |
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| 06:21.55 | bilgillz | I'm trying to get a desktop on here.. It only has console to boot into |
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| 06:34.16 | bilgillz | Can anyone tell me why this happens when I try to install gnome http://i57.tinypic.com/aoaxhk.jpg |
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| 06:40.57 | kingsley | bilgillz: I don't know for sure. |
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| 06:41.11 | kingsley | However, I find myself wondering.. |
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| 06:41.13 | kingsley | ... |
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| 06:41.57 | kingsley | 1.) What the first error message was, and which may have scrolled off of your screen, |
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| 06:42.33 | kingsley | 2.) whether that computer can access the internet to download packages, and |
| 06:43.13 | bilgillz | Yes i just got the repositories set and everything |
| 06:43.38 | kingsley | 3.) whether gnome became unstable for you, like it seemed to for me, and whether you might benefit from replacing it with something like xfce. |
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| 06:44.49 | kingsley | I suppose you could also try its suggestion to do |
| 06:44.58 | kingsley | $ apt-get -f install |
| 06:45.02 | bilgillz | I was trying I don't have a display manager |
| 06:45.34 | bilgillz | And for some reason I get an error installing xorg |
| 06:45.51 | bilgillz | Maybe that could be it? |
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| 06:46.16 | dioz | do you think people ever commit suicide out of happiness ? |
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| 06:48.34 | bilgillz | http://i62.tinypic.com/ndr9ya.jpg |
| 06:48.51 | bilgillz | Says assertion "found" failed |
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| 06:55.11 | kingsley | bilgillz: How recently was Debian installed? |
| 06:55.42 | bilgillz | kingsley: 2days ago |
| 06:56.01 | kingsley | What version of Debian is it? |
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| 06:57.24 | bilgillz | 7 |
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| 06:58.03 | Newbie0086 | hello |
| 06:58.10 | Newbie0086 | can someone help me |
| 06:58.42 | bhuddah | hello Newbie0086 |
| 06:58.44 | bhuddah | ask! |
| 06:58.49 | bhuddah | uhm... |
| 06:58.50 | bhuddah | !ask |
| 06:58.51 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 06:58.55 | Newbie0086 | when i use the the wine to run some exe file ,it can not work ,i pasted it here https://gist.github.com/newbiethetest/02174ae84a217f3fb141 |
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| 06:59.09 | bilgillz | It didn't install the display manager or desktop and my repositories list was empty when it booted up |
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| 06:59.38 | bilgillz | So I added repositories aptitude update |
| 07:00.01 | bilgillz | Then tried installing xorg I got an error |
| 07:00.24 | bilgillz | Went ahead and installed gnome-desktop |
| 07:00.45 | Newbie0086 | me? |
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| 07:00.48 | bilgillz | Now I can't install gnome |
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| 07:01.02 | kingsley | bilgillz: I don't know what the problem is, but for what it's worth, I ended up reinstalling all software, including Debian, after encountering gnome errors a week or two ago when I tried to upgrade from stable to testing. I switched to xfce. |
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| 07:01.33 | Newbie0086 | its really bad |
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| 07:02.30 | kingsley | bilgillz: Can you do... |
| 07:02.36 | kingsley | $ whois google.com |
| 07:02.37 | kingsley | and |
| 07:02.46 | kingsley | $ apt-get update |
| 07:02.47 | kingsley | ? |
| 07:02.49 | Newbie0086 | anyone can tell me how can i run the .exe file using wine |
| 07:02.57 | bilgillz | I had troubles with installing debian all togeather it installs base the on the install software it failed so I went on and installed yaboot |
| 07:03.05 | babilen | bilgillz: Could you please paste the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy gnome" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 07:03.29 | babilen | bilgillz: Is this on powerpc? |
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| 07:04.20 | bilgillz | Yes it's a PowerPC |
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| 07:05.52 | bilgillz | I can only take a picture |
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| 07:07.16 | babilen | Newbie0086: Problems with wine itself aren't really supported here, but in #winehq on irc.freenode.net -- you will probably need a newer wine version which is not packaged for wheezy |
| 07:07.23 | babilen | bilgillz: How come? |
| 07:07.30 | babilen | Are you not online? |
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| 07:08.43 | Newbie0086 | bablien:ths |
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| 07:09.10 | bilgillz | babilen: how do I get a log of my output |
| 07:09.13 | babilen | bilgillz: What do you have in your sources.list ? |
| 07:09.18 | babilen | bilgillz: Are you online? |
| 07:09.22 | bilgillz | Yes |
| 07:09.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell bilgillz about pastebinit |
| 07:10.23 | andy1978 | I've compiled graphicsmagick with QuantumDepth 32, checkinstall, dpkg -i ..... How can I now tell apt-get to let me remove libgraphicsmagick* without trying to remove other packages which depends on graphicsmagick? |
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| 07:10.50 | babilen | bilgillz: Please run "apt-cache policy > gnome_install.txt", "head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} >> gnome_install.txt" and "apt-cache policy gnome >> gnome_install.txt" and then run "pastebinit gnome_install.txt" |
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| 07:12.11 | bilgillz | Ok |
| 07:12.16 | babilen | I assume here that you can install pastebinit. What do you have in your sources.list ? Does it look, more or less, like http://paste.debian.net/113508 ? |
| 07:12.31 | babilen | (if not, please point out the exact differences) |
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| 07:13.41 | bilgillz | I have the exact repos and a few third party repos |
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| 07:16.34 | babilen | bilgillz: Ah, therein obviously lies your problem. Please do not use random third-party repositories as they, as evidenced by your predicament, break the packaging system and are completely unsupported. |
| 07:18.04 | bilgillz | Ok I will remove |
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| 07:22.35 | bilgillz | http://i62.tinypic.com/1h6u1g.jpg |
| 07:22.41 | bilgillz | Ok I have this now |
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| 07:23.05 | bilgillz | Anything else I need to remove? |
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| 07:25.03 | jpinx | themill: it would appear that I have some other issue -- the bog-standard stable iceweasel also freezes on Ctrl-p |
| 07:25.52 | iveevue | bilgillz, Reemove the comments |
| 07:26.05 | jpinx | ii iceweasel 24.7.0esr-1~deb7u i386 |
| 07:27.23 | jpinx | when I do > file > print > all browser activity freezes for a good 2 minutes and then it sometimes will go on to give me print options, but sometimes not |
| 07:27.28 | babilen | bilgillz: line 5 and 6 are bonkers |
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| 07:27.52 | babilen | (and the laste two lines are dublicates) |
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| 07:27.58 | babilen | *duplicates |
| 07:28.02 | jpinx | no clues in dmesg or syslog :( |
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| 07:29.39 | bilgillz | Ok |
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| 07:39.27 | bilgillz | babilen: this is what I'm getting now when I try to install xorg |
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| 07:39.30 | bilgillz | http://i62.tinypic.com/v4npmp.jpg |
| 07:39.35 | babilen | Please use a pastebin |
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| 07:41.10 | Neon | Hey, so my server hoster had some powering issues yesterday and my Debian Squeeze server lost two mounted devices. In /etc/fstab it says it wants to mount /dev/md/0 to /dev/md/4, but 1 and 3 have been replaced by _none_:1 and _none_:3 respectively in /dev/md/. /dev/md1 and /dev/md3 are there though and work if I mount them manually. I tried to delete the _none_: links and create proper links to 1 and 3, then shutdown -r now, |
| 07:41.11 | Neon | but instead of using the new links and mounting the right devices it just deleted 1 and 3 again and replaced them by the _none_: links again. I'd appreaciate your help. I'm not much experienced when it comes to mounting devices. |
| 07:42.01 | OpenTokix | Neon: what does /proc/mdstat say? |
| 07:42.14 | Neon | Erm, whereas the question is: How can I tell my system that md1 and md3 are actualy there? |
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| 07:43.01 | Neon | OpenTokix: Shall I paste it to pastebin or the like or do you just need some keywords? |
| 07:43.11 | OpenTokix | Neon: paste it |
| 07:43.17 | OpenTokix | bilgillz: did you try apt-get -f install |
| 07:43.41 | OpenTokix | babilen: I am guessing he or she has a hard time navigating pastebin, and paste from the console - on his or her computer with no xorg. |
| 07:43.54 | OpenTokix | babilen: Or you expect the person to type in to pastebin, from the image? |
| 07:44.15 | andy1978 | Or rephrased: How can I tell apt-get that I installed a library from tarball and it doesn't need to install to resolve dependencies? |
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| 07:44.44 | Neon | OpenTokix: http://pastebin.com/rN5cWf8F |
| 07:45.53 | babilen | OpenTokix: No, no .. not at all. Just use pastebinit as exemplified above :) |
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| 07:45.58 | OpenTokix | Neon: Looks like the radi subsystem thinks you have two differnt raids. - One built with partitions from /dev/sda, and one build from /dev/sdb |
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| 07:46.13 | OpenTokix | babilen: How should the person get that console text, to pastebin? |
| 07:46.21 | babilen | dpkg: pastebinit |
| 07:46.22 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 07:46.55 | babilen | (assuming that installs correctly - haven't heard anything from bilgillz to indicate otherwise) |
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| 07:47.20 | OpenTokix | babilen: And the apt-get problem will magically solve itself, and install the pastbin-tool ;) |
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| 07:48.11 | bilgillz | I'm installing |
| 07:48.22 | OpenTokix | Neon: I am guessing you need to forcefully remove one of the raids info from partitions, and then add those partitions and assmble the raid again |
| 07:48.33 | bilgillz | And yes it's resolving issues |
| 07:48.37 | Neon | OpenTokix: That's a problem. I didn't configure the RAID system. It was preconfigured by the hoster. So do you think it's a problem the hoster must/should solve or can I do it (without the risk of data loss). |
| 07:48.40 | babilen | OpenTokix: If it doesn't then we can work with *that* and keep using pictures. |
| 07:48.58 | Neon | I.e. I have no idea how to configure a RAID system. |
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| 07:49.22 | OpenTokix | Neon: ok =) - You can solve it yourself, but if you can get the hoster to solve it for you - Ask them to. |
| 07:49.36 | OpenTokix | Neon: There is always risk of dataloss when messing around with funky raids. |
| 07:50.05 | Neon | OpenTokix: Yeah, especially if your experience is 0. |
| 07:50.07 | babilen | bilgillz: Please just make your sources.list look like: http://paste.debian.net/113508 then run "apt-get update". *Everything* that is then listed by "aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'" is not available in any configured repo and could therefore be purged (replace "search" with "purge" in that command, but please be cautious, you might want to paste that first and verify the outcome) |
| 07:50.09 | OpenTokix | Neon: But i assume the risk is slightly lower if you do it yourself. -- But I am also guessing your hoster will give you no guarantees, so backups is always a godo idea. |
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| 07:50.27 | OpenTokix | Neon: Risk increases explonationally when your experience approaches zero of data loss |
| 07:50.37 | babilen | bilgillz: A look at "aptitude search '~o'" would also be interesting. |
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| 07:50.39 | OpenTokix | should be a , in there. |
| 07:51.02 | Neon | OpenTokix: Yeah. I nearly got a heart attack as I logged in yesterday and the shell told me there was no /home/neon to chroot to... |
| 07:51.16 | OpenTokix | Neon: hehe, always fun |
| 07:51.20 | OpenTokix | Neon: keep backups, always |
| 07:51.24 | Neon | I'm very happy I found out that /dev/md3 still holds all data from /home. |
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| 07:51.45 | OpenTokix | Neon: the raids are there, but they are degraded |
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| 07:52.10 | Neon | OpenTokix: Backupping is a major problem atm. My internet is partly broken and I'm downgraded to DSL 1k... |
| 07:52.19 | OpenTokix | Neon: I say: back up the data, ask the hoster to reinstall the machine for your |
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| 07:52.40 | bilgillz | babilen: my console just went blank trying to install pastebinit |
| 07:52.43 | OpenTokix | Neon: Rent some VPS for backup? Like Amazon AWS or something |
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| 07:52.50 | OpenTokix | Neon: should not be to expensive for a couple of days |
| 07:53.11 | OpenTokix | bilgillz: your xorg probably got halfway configured, try ctrl + alt + F2 |
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| 07:53.30 | junka | why does debian stable has kernel 3.2.60 while the last update it 3.2.61 released on 7/11 |
| 07:53.31 | OpenTokix | or F1,{F3-F6} until you find your console again |
| 07:53.59 | OpenTokix | junka: Was it released in november? |
| 07:54.11 | junka | no 11/7 |
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| 07:54.18 | junka | last month |
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| 07:54.49 | Neon | OpenTokix: When I mount the devices manually now, do you think there's a risk of data loss long-term? |
| 07:55.14 | Neon | As long as I don't change any configuration. |
| 07:55.19 | OpenTokix | Neon: Your raids are degraded,so if the other drive has problems - you are out of luck |
| 07:55.34 | OpenTokix | bbl - meeting |
| 07:55.37 | Otyugh | hey there. Without systemD, where can I found the journal of detailed logs now ? |
| 07:55.55 | themill | junka: outside of point releases, packages aren't upgraded except for security updates. That one wouldn't hit wheezy until the 7.7 point release and only then if it were worthwhile |
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| 07:56.07 | bilgillz | OpenTokix: it was telling me a lot of packages were not configured and the font got thinner and went blank |
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| 07:56.38 | bilgillz | OpenTokix: I found console but the font is sort of different |
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| 07:57.56 | junka | themill: thanks for the answer |
| 07:58.47 | bilgillz | OpenTokix: says dpkg was interrupted and I must run it manually |
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| 08:01.23 | tralala | bilgillz, do a dpkg --configure -a |
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| 08:01.49 | tralala | and apt-get install -f |
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| 08:04.44 | bilgillz | Horrible fail http://i60.tinypic.com/25ppy4g.jpg |
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| 08:11.37 | bilgillz | Do I need to try reinstalling debian |
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| 08:11.50 | tralala | you do |
| 08:12.20 | tralala | if apt/dpkg segfaults this means that either something is terribly broken or that you have a HW problem |
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| 08:12.51 | tralala | given that you've had third party repos the terribly broken scenario is very likely |
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| 08:13.22 | tralala | so go ahead with a fresh installation |
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| 08:14.03 | bilgillz | Will do |
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| 08:40.41 | __jacks | anyone familiar with an error on clearos enterprise 5.2 + saslauthd 2.1.22 generating authentication failures and retrying ? |
| 08:40.55 | __jacks | used in POP + LDAP setup |
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| 08:43.14 | bezaban | __jacks: I think most people here use debian and are familiar with that. Clearos, being redhat-based is far from that, and even ubuntu questions are generally not answered her. |
| 08:44.02 | babilen | __jacks: This channel only supports pure Debian and its users for a number of technical and social reasons and you might want to seek support in whatever channel clearos *enterprise* makes available to its users. ##linux is an alternative that supports all flavours. |
| 08:44.09 | __jacks | cheers |
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| 09:07.09 | DX099 | hello everyone, I'm trying to recover a broken install (Debian 7 Wheezy) from a rescue partition, both on a remote server that I'd like to avoid reinstalling. I made a mistake and /usr/bin ended up being deleted, as long as other parts of /usr and /var. I successfully chrooted in the broken install from my rescue system and reinstalled dpkg, apt, and libc6 from their snapshots into the broken |
| 09:07.09 | DX099 | install. |
| 09:07.53 | DX099 | I was able to get a selection of my packages and would like to issue a reinstall, but I'm being stuck on the following error : http://paste.debian.net/113483/ |
| 09:08.18 | DX099 | can someone help me sort this out? |
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| 09:11.09 | BotaniCar | DX099: later part of your paste looks like internet / gateway filter problem, not something fixable on the server itself. What does "apt-get check -m -f " say ? |
| 09:12.26 | DX099 | BotaniCar, http://paste.debian.net/113528/ |
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| 09:13.34 | BotaniCar | DX099: try a nother mirror list and delete named files ( http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/update-problem-on-wheezy-932568/ ) |
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| 09:17.28 | password2 | Hi |
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| 09:22.33 | password2 | So I tried to install Debian on my new work lappy that has uefi and runs win 8 , after disabling fthe uefi i could get the installer to load but it could not detect any of my networking devices , any idea how to fix that? |
| 09:23.01 | OpenTokix | password2: your probably need some firmware for the networking hardware |
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| 09:23.30 | password2 | ah |
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| 09:25.03 | password2 | is there i way i can load them from disc while the installer runs , because it did not let me continue without networking |
| 09:25.59 | OpenTokix | password2: iirc there is a menu option to load 3rd party drivers/firmware from usb during installation |
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| 09:26.23 | password2 | ok , I'll retry sometime when i have some try |
| 09:26.25 | DX099 | BotaniCar, it still won't work : http://paste.debian.net/113530/ |
| 09:26.26 | password2 | *time |
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| 09:29.19 | BotaniCar | DX099: did you try and clear content of "/var/lib/apt/lists/" and re-doing "apt-get update" ? |
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| 09:32.28 | DX099 | BotaniCar, yes I've done "rm -vf /var/lib/apt/lists/*" |
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| 09:34.20 | BotaniCar | DX099: i can't think of anything else you can do on the server in question, maybe someone else can assist you further. I'd go look if my network is badly filtered. Do you have any other server in that network that could be used to verify apt is working OK on it ? |
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| 09:37.08 | MO_Handes | how I can set a command to be executed as root on every boot? |
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| 09:37.52 | formorer | MO_Handes: use cron's @reboot feature. |
| 09:37.59 | formorer | or rc.local |
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| 09:48.38 | raw_ | i have a problem with dbconfig-common, as soon as i try to install keystone (openstack service) it refuses with "sanity check failed for dbc_dbtype". i have the fine guess that dbconfig-common does not recognize the local mariadb installation |
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| 09:50.03 | raw_ | but i have no idea how dbconfig-common discovers the installed databases, someone can give me a hint? |
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| 10:21.14 | foobar64 | Is there a way to tell systemd: 1) When fsck is running, show progress bar and let me INTERRUPT fsck via Ctrl-C, and 2) show what you're doing on the console, just like sysvinit? |
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| 10:23.33 | zz1 | How can I get dpkg to tell me about /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 10:24.21 | tommy_the_dragon | I'm in the process of writing a service and it starts when I run /etc/init.d/myservice start but not when i run service myservice start. How do I fix it? |
| 10:24.21 | zz1 | dpkg tell zz1 about /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 10:26.16 | zz1 | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main |
| 10:26.16 | zz1 | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main |
| 10:26.16 | zz1 | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-updates main |
| 10:26.16 | zz1 | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-updates main |
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| 10:26.33 | zz1 | Sorry for the flood |
| 10:27.09 | zz1 | I wanted to ask: is the repetition of http:// right in "deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main" ? |
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| 10:31.58 | bezaban | Zzeiss: yeah, that is a valid mirror. http.debian.net. It helps redirect to other mirrors |
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| 10:32.35 | bezaban | oh sorry zzeiss, not for you |
| 10:32.53 | bezaban | zz1: ^ |
| 10:33.18 | zz1 | bezaban thank you :-) |
| 10:33.57 | redShadow | cheers! I'm looking for some automatic zip/7-zip/others wrapper.. is there any in the packages? |
| 10:34.18 | redShadow | (I have a bunch of zip and 7-zip files to extract, but they all have a .zip extension..) |
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| 10:35.40 | bezaban | redShadow: there is 'unzip' |
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| 10:35.59 | bezaban | also p7zip |
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| 10:36.40 | mrtnt_ | Am I correct that in the next Debian release the System-V style init is dropped and systemd will be used instead? So all the packages for next Debian release, which require some start-up capabilities, need to make systemd configuration files instead? |
| 10:36.52 | redShadow | bezaban: yup, but it only works for zips, right? I was looking for something that checks the mimetype then calls the correct one, maybe with a standardized interface |
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| 10:37.25 | redShadow | just to avoid writing a long case "$( file -b --mime-type $myfile )" in .... |
| 10:37.31 | bezaban | redShadow: oh right, now I see what you meant. Don't know about that I'm afraid. |
| 10:37.33 | bezaban | yeah |
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| 10:38.51 | stangeland | hi, I have a file with many lines....the lines are unordered...how do i sort all the lines according to only a subsection of each filename (same subsection for all files) |
| 10:39.06 | peetaur2 | mrtnt_: I believe systemd has some kind of wrapper thing that lets you use the old style, so it is backwards compatible |
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| 10:41.03 | NCS_One | hi |
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| 10:41.48 | trewas | redShadow: there's unp, although I am not sure if it uses mime-types or just filename extensions to guess what archive format the file is |
| 10:43.28 | bezaban | stangeland: you are able to do this with a combination of awk/sed and sort. Or just awk I would think. It does take a little testing. Possibly the people on #bash can help you, unless someone here is willing to do the work for you |
| 10:43.42 | foobar64 | stangeland: 'sort -k' |
| 10:44.24 | bezaban | ah, sort -k looks like it is sufficient assuming the keys are all at the same position on the line' |
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| 10:47.35 | stangeland | ahh nice...hmm soif my lines are /some/path/to/whatever/G03_2014.01.04.18:44:22_gzip.hdf and i just want to sort by the 2014.01.04.18:44:22 part...how would i do that? |
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| 10:47.57 | NCS_One | I'm installing a new debian but on partition if I choose the guided one the sizes are not the ones I need, on manual partition I'm too noob to do it :). The location of the partitions is always "Beginning"? |
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| 10:48.21 | foobar64 | stangeland: man -P 'less +/keydef' sort |
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| 10:48.50 | petern_ | NCS_One, yeah, beginning means at the first available free space, or something like that. |
| 10:49.01 | hazard | How do I troubleshoot the things that happen from /etc/network/interfaces. Specifically, I have "pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/network/iptables" in it that appears to be failing. |
| 10:49.08 | foobar64 | stangeland: (Hint: key 'n' in 'less' advances to the next occurrence of 'keydef', while key 'q' quits the pager) |
| 10:49.18 | hazard | Sorry, it's early. Pretend that first one had a question mark at the end. |
| 10:50.26 | hazard | If I manually restore the iptables, everything works fine. But when I reboot, it fails to restore the iptables, and my bridge stops passing packets upstream. |
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| 10:50.57 | foobar64 | hazard: Quick shot: replace 'iptables-restore ...' with ' |
| 10:51.16 | foobar64 | hazard: Quick shot: replace 'iptables-restore ...' with 'strace iptables-restore ... 2>/tmp/strace.log' |
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| 10:51.48 | hazard | foobar64: Brilliant. Thanks a heap. |
| 10:51.57 | foobar64 | |-) |
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| 10:52.50 | hazard | foobar64: What if it's the "pre-up" part that's failing though? |
| 10:53.14 | foobar64 | hazard: Oh ... hmmm ... |
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| 10:55.09 | foobar64 | hazard: Seems /etc/network/interfaces is parsed by ifup(8), so you could (ideally) rename /sbin/ifup to /sbin/ifup.orig and replace ifup with a shell script containing 'strace /sbin/ifup.orig' or sth. |
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| 10:55.12 | hazard | foobar64: The "pre-up" portion seems likely, since I can manually run the iptables-restore command and get what I expect. |
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| 10:55.55 | hazard | foobar64: Heh. That feels like a kludge, but I've already got about 20 hours into this problem, and I'm willing to do just about anything. |
| 10:56.12 | NCS_One | petern_: ok, thanks |
| 10:56.21 | foobar64 | hazard: I hope you have physical access to the machine (or some IP-KVM or other rescue mechanism), just in case that replacing ifup with a script will break everything. |
| 10:56.31 | foobar64 | hazard: Oh my ... I feel with you ... |
| 10:56.33 | foobar64 | :-} |
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| 10:56.53 | foobar64 | has changed the topic to 'Today is STRACE day!' |
| 10:57.28 | hazard | I have physical access to all the machines. I'm trying to build a wireless bridge for my bus. |
| 10:57.53 | hazard | And what's chapping my hide, is I've done this exact same process 3 other times recently, without any issues, but now suddenly I can't keep my iptables. |
| 10:58.20 | hazard | In fact, I have a system in my basement using almost the exact same configuration, just on a different wifi. |
| 10:58.29 | foobar64 | hazard: I'm sure that your bus would be happier if it would driver over a real bridge instead of a wireless bridge. |
| 10:59.18 | hazard | Heh. It will, soon. I'm moving in to it this week. I'm setting up this bridge so I can have my regular network, and attach it to wireless wherever I'm at. |
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| 11:11.31 | boratynskikamil | Dear all, what solution do you recommend to use shared storage on guests? |
| 11:12.24 | foobar64 | boratynskikamil: what do you mean by 'guests'? |
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| 11:12.37 | boratynskikamil | Virtualmachines on VMware host. |
| 11:13.13 | foobar64 | boratynskikamil: Hm, at least VirtualBox allows the definition of a shared folder, maybe VMware offers something similar? |
| 11:13.28 | boratynskikamil | foobar64: Do not think so... |
| 11:13.53 | foobar64 | boratynskikamil: https://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_running_shared_folders.html |
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| 11:14.23 | boratynskikamil | foobar64: But I do not want to keep data on host. I would like to create file system. |
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| 11:15.00 | foobar64 | boratynskikamil: And where should that fs be located? Somewhere on the net? |
| 11:15.21 | foobar64 | boratynskikamil: You could mount that net folder on your host, then use VMware's shared folder mechanism to access it. |
| 11:15.31 | boratynskikamil | foobar64: This fs should be shared via different VirtualMachines. |
| 11:16.07 | hazard | boratynskikamil: Something wrong with one of the VMs running Samba or something similar? |
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| 11:16.27 | foobar64 | boratynskikamil: The shared folder concept should work with every conceivable storage location, be it an NFS mount, a Samba mount, a mounted disk image on your host or on the net ... |
| 11:17.03 | boratynskikamil | hazard: Single point of failure? |
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| 11:18.53 | hazard | boratynskikamil: So, you're saying you also want redundancy? What about software RAID on the same VM? |
| 11:19.45 | boratynskikamil | hazard: There is no RAID. There is one drive. shared drive on different guests. Some people used OCFS2 file system, but it is buggy a lot. |
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| 11:21.43 | petern_ | How many single points of failure do you want? :D |
| 11:22.36 | hazard | boratynskikamil: How about you tell us your actual want/need. It seems that you have some plan, this will go faster if you just jump to that, instead of shooting down all our suggestions. |
| 11:22.37 | boratynskikamil | petern_: None? :-P |
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| 11:23.21 | boratynskikamil | hazard: I want to use ONE drive, shared between virtual machines. That's it. |
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| 11:23.29 | hazard | foobar64: I wasn't expecing /sbin/ifup to be binary. Was I just being naive in thinking it would be a shell script? |
| 11:24.16 | foobar64 | hazard: Well, young padawan ... these days, everything seems to be binary. ;-( |
| 11:24.39 | hazard | boratynskikamil: And we told you several ways to do that. You can't have it both ways. You either have to accept your point of failure, or reconfigure your desires. |
| 11:24.43 | foobar64 | has changed the topic to 'Coming soon: BASH-OS! Source included!' |
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| 11:25.29 | hazard | foobar64: Perhaps I'm getting a bit long in the tooth, but I'm not overly fond of tools I can't edit. |
| 11:25.33 | boratynskikamil | hazard: I need just one way. Assume, we cannot use NFS or SAMBA. Any different one? |
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| 11:26.05 | foobar64 | hazard: Same here. Let's have a long-tooth fight, yay! =) |
| 11:26.10 | hazard | boratynskikamil: You do realize that what you're asking for is a network drive, without any network drive sharing software? |
| 11:26.11 | petern_ | boratynskikamil, VMs sharing a disk is pretty standard. Do you mean sharing a filesystem? |
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| 11:26.43 | boratynskikamil | petern_: Exacly. |
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| 11:26.55 | petern_ | boratynskikamil, virtualbox has some kind of sharing thing built in. |
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| 11:27.11 | petern_ | boratynskikamil, other than that, indeed, you will need a network share |
| 11:27.22 | bhuddah | whats with various distributed filesystems? ceph, lustre, gluster, hadoopfs... |
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| 11:28.02 | petern_ | or network filesystem, heh... |
| 11:28.13 | foobar64 | boratynskikamil: Take your pick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_file_systems :-) |
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| 11:28.43 | OpenTokix | gluster is by far easiest of those you list |
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| 11:29.12 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: GlusterFS or GFS? |
| 11:29.55 | OpenTokix | GlusterFS |
| 11:31.02 | hazard | boratynskikamil: I just looked up the ocfs32 you mentioned, and now I think I might know why you have a disconnect about what you're asking for. You are trying to set up a clustered filesystem for machines that aren't clustered. |
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| 11:31.20 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: Isn't it working as Client-Server? |
| 11:31.35 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: more or less, yes |
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| 11:31.38 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: why? |
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| 11:34.47 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: The point is I do not need to, em... replicate data. (: I just need to use one storage on these all guests. (: |
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| 11:35.09 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: yes? - just use NFS then? |
| 11:35.16 | hazard | hahaha |
| 11:35.25 | hazard | That discussion just completed a full rotation. :-P |
| 11:35.30 | boratynskikamil | hazard: (: |
| 11:35.33 | OpenTokix | yeah =) - I assume so |
| 11:35.33 | boratynskikamil | Hah. (: |
| 11:35.40 | OpenTokix | I just dont get the problem, then |
| 11:35.53 | hazard | Nobody does, except Borat, apparently. :D |
| 11:35.58 | OpenTokix | ok |
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| 11:36.02 | boratynskikamil | hazard: Borat. <3 |
| 11:36.11 | hazard | Really? |
| 11:36.19 | hazard | I thought that was the worst thing since Dumb & Dumber. |
| 11:36.35 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: What is the problem you need to solve then? - Try to explain it in more detail, so we can understand and hopefully help you. |
| 11:36.53 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: Ok, step by step. |
| 11:36.59 | boratynskikamil | On each node i have /dev/sdb, right? |
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| 11:37.05 | boratynskikamil | It is the same drive. |
| 11:37.14 | boratynskikamil | Share between VirtualMachines. |
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| 11:37.32 | hazard | So, I don't really feel up to trying to kludge together a replacement for ifup, anybody have any other suggestions on how I might troubleshoot a "pre-up" entry in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 11:38.05 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: is the root-device shared between machines? |
| 11:38.15 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: Yes, it is. |
| 11:38.29 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: That can't work, right? |
| 11:38.29 | hazard | I really get the impression it's just not happening, which is why I'm not motivated to replace ifup as a troubleshooting method. I suspect it would never reach that point anyway. |
| 11:38.31 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: If you mean, I see the whole drive, not a partition, yes. |
| 11:38.43 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: If I create simple FS, it cannot work. |
| 11:38.55 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: That sounds like it could make all the machines confused. |
| 11:39.07 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: Exacly. |
| 11:39.15 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: why do you want it like that? |
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| 11:39.23 | hazard | boratynskikamil: Like I said before, I think what you're asking is for a clustered filesystem, on machines that aren't clustered. |
| 11:39.23 | OpenTokix | To save disk space? |
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| 11:39.26 | boratynskikamil | OCFS2 allows you to use THE SAME drive on all nodes, without problem. |
| 11:39.37 | boratynskikamil | hazard: Mhm. |
| 11:39.41 | hazard | Because OCFS32 is a clustered filesystem. |
| 11:39.56 | boratynskikamil | hazard: But it is buggy, a lot. |
| 11:40.06 | boratynskikamil | I used GlusterFS on with Server-Client architecture. |
| 11:40.30 | boratynskikamil | But... I do not want to have server-client arch. (: |
| 11:40.44 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: Why? |
| 11:40.46 | hazard | Out of curiousity, is there some reason for that? |
| 11:40.50 | mrtnt_ | peetaur2: ok, I see. But all the new custom made for example start-up scripts should be made for systemd? |
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| 11:41.10 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: To do it in such a way, I would need two servers to prevent single point of failure. |
| 11:41.31 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: But you didnt care for dataloss? |
| 11:41.48 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: I am sure I will not loose data, never. |
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| 11:41.57 | boratynskikamil | It is a virtual drive, It probably will not happen. |
| 11:42.02 | hazard | Then who cares about a point of failure? |
| 11:42.08 | OpenTokix | What hazard said |
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| 11:42.57 | boratynskikamil | hazard: When I do it with NFS, right? I will have single point of failure on NFS machine. Right? |
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| 11:43.49 | petern_ | You're running it all on one disc on one VM server, I don't think you should really worry... |
| 11:43.53 | hazard | boratynskikamil: Unless it's clustered or RAIDed, you have a single point no matter what your configuration, that's what backups are for. |
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| 11:44.07 | bhuddah | boratynskikamil: what is your goal? |
| 11:44.48 | boratynskikamil | bhuddah: Use the same drive on each VirtualMachine. |
| 11:45.04 | boratynskikamil | As far as I see, GFS2 may be used too. |
| 11:45.11 | bhuddah | boratynskikamil: that is not a goal. that is a means. why do you want to do all that? |
| 11:45.34 | boratynskikamil | Each virtual machine has to use the same data stored on it. |
| 11:45.44 | boratynskikamil | The same. And change it. |
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| 11:46.02 | bhuddah | boratynskikamil: and you use multiple machines because of what? load-sharing? |
| 11:46.15 | boratynskikamil | WWW servers and go on. |
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| 11:46.46 | bhuddah | "go on"? |
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| 11:47.00 | boratynskikamil | etcetera. (: |
| 11:47.01 | boratynskikamil | Sorry. |
| 11:47.07 | hazard | He means "so on" |
| 11:47.17 | bhuddah | aaah! :) |
| 11:47.49 | boratynskikamil | so on, sorry. |
| 11:47.49 | boratynskikamil | So? |
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| 11:48.05 | boratynskikamil | As far as I see, global file system would work properly too. |
| 11:48.05 | bhuddah | and all on the same physical host? |
| 11:48.59 | boratynskikamil | bhuddah: Mhm. |
| 11:49.42 | bhuddah | boratynskikamil: i think you can setup the host system to export the volume via nfs. that way you don't have additional points of failure. |
| 11:50.02 | bhuddah | if the host system goes down you don't have to worry about the vms anymore. |
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| 11:50.40 | boratynskikamil | bhuddah: Host may not export NFS. |
| 11:50.56 | bhuddah | boratynskikamil: may i ask why? |
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| 11:51.51 | bezaban | do the hosts only need to read from the share? |
| 11:51.55 | bezaban | er guests* |
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| 11:53.09 | bezaban | would make it a little easier |
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| 12:06.05 | clark__ | hi all, how do I install Debian without all the preconfigured applications ? |
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| 12:06.34 | petern_ | Don't select any tasks on installation. |
| 12:08.27 | clark__ | petern_, I installed from a DVD and don't remember I got any such options |
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| 12:09.25 | clark__ | petern_, I just want the package manager and nothing else |
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| 12:09.58 | meek_geek | debian from wheezy-backports with 3.14 kernel won't work |
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| 12:10.22 | meek_geek | Building only for 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 12:10.22 | meek_geek | Building initial module for 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 12:10.22 | meek_geek | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 (x86_64) |
| 12:10.22 | meek_geek | Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.1.18/build/make.log for more information. |
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| 12:10.34 | meek_geek | ok sorry |
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| 12:12.39 | meek_geek | http://paste.debian.net/113558/ |
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| 12:13.35 | BluesKaj | alex72, type that in the server text |
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| 12:17.24 | clark__ | petern_, ok I understand what you mean, I guess you get this option if you install using the net installer. I pay for the bandwidth already have a DVD. Do you know if it is possible to deselect packages from the DVD ? |
| 12:17.56 | clark__ | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/51927/installing-debian-without-gui-for-a-web-server |
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| 12:21.00 | Walex | clark__: "just want the package manager and nothing else" is perhaps a bit ambitious. |
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| 12:25.20 | nosklo | secure boot sucks |
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| 12:26.01 | clark__ | Walex, I never use most of the preconfigured program so I don't want to install them. want a clean system without bloated |
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| 12:26.34 | clark__ | (sorry for my English grammar) |
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| 12:27.47 | nosklo | clark__: you need at least the base system |
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| 12:28.13 | nosklo | clark__: you can say it is "package manager plus everything it needs to work" |
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| 12:29.04 | clark__ | nosklo, yes, just the basics so I can start to download the packages I really want |
| 12:29.07 | nosklo | clark__: at the end of the installation, untick the check box that says "Desktop" and you won't have a graphical desktop at all, just the base system will be installed |
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| 12:30.31 | clark__ | nosklo, ok, still get apt-get so I can install what I want right ? |
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| 12:30.53 | clark__ | (from command line) |
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| 12:31.37 | nosklo | clark__: yes, apt-get is part of the base system |
| 12:32.07 | clark__ | nosklo, I will try it out, thnaks |
| 12:32.25 | clark__ | *thanks! |
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| 12:33.02 | nosklo | clark__: here's step-by-step walkthrough http://mike632t.wordpress.com/2014/05/20/debian-wheezy-minimal-installation/ |
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| 12:33.51 | nosklo | clark__: just skip the qemu step since you'll be installing on a real machine, not virtual one |
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| 12:35.16 | nosklo | clark__: this image shows the part where you must untick the Desktop checkbox http://mike632t.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/wheezy-install-qemu-52.png |
| 12:35.19 | hazard | You know what keeps me awake at night? Mars is populated by nothing but robots. |
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| 12:37.05 | clark__ | nosklo, super! , thanks a lot |
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| 12:40.06 | zz1 | It may be a dumb question, but I don't get it. A server: I ssh into it, generate a new key (ssh-keygen -b 4096). New bash, I ssh into it and the fingeprint is the previous one, not the one of the key I just generated. Anyone? |
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| 12:40.51 | bezaban | zz1: the host key is the same regardless of key auth |
| 12:41.06 | bezaban | zz1: /etc/hosts/ contain those keys |
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| 12:41.14 | bezaban | erp. /etc/ssh/ |
| 12:41.15 | bezaban | ! |
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| 12:41.32 | zz1 | thanks bezaban |
| 12:41.41 | zz1 | I knew it was dumb, but when you're a beginner⦠:-) |
| 12:41.41 | bezaban | np :) |
| 12:41.58 | DX099 | BotaniCar, sorry, I was AFK. The rescue server I'm working from is an Ubuntu 12.04 and has no problem updating itself |
| 12:42.40 | bezaban | zz1: you seem thoroughly on the right path as that is exactly how you learn about linux :) |
| 12:43.06 | bezaban | finding out how everything is bolted together. |
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| 12:44.30 | zz1 | bezaban :-) So I'll go forward on this path! |
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| 12:47.38 | achadwick | The systemd transition means that XScreensaver will no longer lock when resuming from suspend. TIL that jessie/testing users who use lightdm (1.10.1-3+) can install light-locker (currently 1.4.0-1 in experimental), to lock their screens before sleeping, and remove their xscreensaver package. Lightdm will need to be restarted for this; the simplest way is to reboot. |
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| 12:48.32 | achadwick | was going to infodump that in an unrelated bug report, but thought better of it. |
| 12:52.07 | LordDeath | how can I use the ssl-cert package to make a snakeoil certificate for another domain? |
| 12:52.19 | LordDeath | my hostname and the domain are not the same |
| 12:52.24 | jaybe | LordDeath, `man make-ssl-cert` helps |
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| 12:59.13 | AlexPortable | my server keeps rebooting itself |
| 12:59.18 | AlexPortable | how can i find out why this happened? |
| 12:59.32 | OpenTokix | AlexPortable: look in the logs in /var/log - I would start in syslog and kern.log - and dmesg |
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| 12:59.48 | OpenTokix | AlexPortable: err. /var/log/messages, not syslog |
| 13:00.07 | AlexPortable | not much there |
| 13:00.08 | LordDeath | jaybe: found it |
| 13:00.11 | AlexPortable | in messages |
| 13:00.27 | OpenTokix | AlexPortable: how about kern.log? |
| 13:00.32 | LordDeath | it is searching /etc/hosts for my hostname and it selects the firt entry there |
| 13:00.34 | LordDeath | first |
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| 13:00.52 | jaybe | LordDeath, when the dialogue asks for a 'common name'... just change to what you want |
| 13:00.55 | AlexPortable | neither |
| 13:01.05 | AlexPortable | it only shows some things like 'logging initialized' |
| 13:01.09 | AlexPortable | because the os booted there |
| 13:01.21 | LordDeath | so add the domain to /etc/hosts under the hostname and then run make-ssl-cert again |
| 13:01.58 | jaybe | LordDeath, well - you should have properly configured your host for networking to begin with - which includes defining your IP address, fully qualified domain name and possibly an alias in /etc/hosts |
| 13:02.20 | tralala | AlexPortable, have you observed any patterns about the reboots? Can you give us more context? |
| 13:02.35 | AlexPortable | not yet |
| 13:02.38 | AlexPortable | uptime: 3 days |
| 13:02.42 | jaybe | e.g. /etc/hosts: 192.168.14.15 host.example.com host |
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| 13:02.47 | AlexPortable | and some programs i started are not running anymore |
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| 13:04.24 | tralala | AlexPortable, how long has this server been running? Has anything changed lately? What kind of server is it? The more information you give us, the easier it will be for us to help. |
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| 13:06.20 | AlexPortable | it's a vps, 3 months |
| 13:06.27 | AlexPortable | last time i also had this problem |
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| 13:07.45 | AlexPortable | last logs of my program i started was 13:11:19 |
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| 13:12.52 | meek_geek | I have a 1ghz dual core AMD C-60 APU with 5.4 GB DDR3 RAM on my laptop running Debian Xfce Stable, should i even dream of running a VM of Windows 8 pro ? |
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| 13:14.14 | peetaur2 | meek_geek: sure why not... you only need something like 1.5 GB even for KDE4, and then windows without something bloated like games and development tools will only use about the same |
| 13:14.26 | tralala | AlexPortable, are you sure that the vps gets restarted? Maybe it's just your programme that stops. |
| 13:14.35 | AlexPortable | uptime changes with the program? |
| 13:14.57 | tralala | ah, right |
| 13:15.20 | tralala | did you ask the support about it? |
| 13:15.27 | tralala | which provider are we talking about? |
| 13:15.38 | AlexPortable | some local provider |
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| 13:16.22 | tralala | my first suspicion is the provider |
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| 13:16.36 | meek_geek | peetaur2, do you know about superunderpowered AMD C-60 APU ? |
| 13:16.49 | AlexPortable | well what can i do? |
| 13:16.54 | AlexPortable | just ask them "hey did you reboot my vps?" |
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| 13:17.50 | tralala | AlexPortable, call them, say that you are experiencing unexpected reboots, see what they have to say. |
| 13:18.19 | peetaur2 | meek_geek: no idea how slow it is, but if it has svm cpu flag, I'd still say go for it ... |
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| 13:18.24 | tralala | how frequent are the reboots? |
| 13:18.29 | AlexPortable | last one was a month ago |
| 13:18.37 | AlexPortable | 3 days uptime |
| 13:18.42 | AlexPortable | that means last reboot was 1-08 |
| 13:18.59 | tralala | before that? |
| 13:19.06 | AlexPortable | can't remember |
| 13:19.33 | meek_geek | peetaur2, I am doing it right now .. :] its at 92 percent |
| 13:20.15 | peetaur2 | meek_geek: during boot? that's normal... bios, etc. have no cpu scalaing support |
| 13:20.19 | tralala | talk to them, check their forums/issue tracker to see if other customers have the same problem. Also make your programme start on reboot (assuming it's a service). |
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| 13:21.12 | meek_geek | peetaur2, no i m doing a VM but people are suggesting me to do a dual boot setup else i would cry and cry |
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| 13:22.10 | peetaur2 | nah |
| 13:22.12 | peetaur2 | vms are not that slow |
| 13:22.14 | peetaur2 | they imagine |
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| 13:22.25 | peetaur2 | I run a 2 seater for windows games, and they run fast :) |
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| 13:22.50 | peetaur2 | cpu and memory are only like 0-5% slower in a proper VM system like KVM |
| 13:23.08 | peetaur2 | but disk can be much slower, like 40-60% as fast as a bare metal system |
| 13:23.29 | peetaur2 | be sure to run the virtio drivers from redhat in the windows VM for best performance |
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| 13:30.00 | adzafdd | Hi |
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| 13:34.32 | adzafdd | I'm using a fresh install of Wheezy installed on a SSD (block device sda), where all the data and system resides in an encrypted partition labeled sdb5 (see http://pastebin.com/D2hHE6ra). When I'm trying to connect a USB dongle, the same block device is assigned to it (dmesg shows it as sdb), and it is not possible to view the dongle by using lsblk, tough it is |
| 13:34.57 | adzafdd | though it is showing up in /dev/disk/* |
| 13:35.17 | adzafdd | Is there a way to access to this dongle to format it? |
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| 13:38.52 | vlt | adzafdd: Tried `fdisk /dev/sdb` already? |
| 13:39.35 | adzafdd | vlt: yes. Is says 'no media found'. |
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| 13:44.08 | vlt | adzafdd: I donât think that naming something "sdb5_crypt" should introduce a problem accessing /dev/sdb. |
| 13:44.31 | vlt | adzafdd: What does `fdisk -l /dev/sd?` say? |
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| 13:45.19 | crsuarez | wc |
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| 13:45.33 | adzafdd | vlt: That what's I was thinking... fsck -l /dev/sd outputs nothing. |
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| 13:45.57 | vlt | adzafdd: What does `fdisk -l /dev/sd?` say? |
| 13:46.43 | adzafdd | vlt: I do not get any output from it. |
| 13:47.37 | vlt | adzafdd: Are you root? |
| 13:48.40 | adzafdd | vlt: I tried with sudo and with root, the results are the same, no output. |
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| 13:49.22 | vlt | adzafdd: Could you please tell me the exact command again that has no output? |
| 13:49.38 | Brigo | adzafdd, can you paste the /var/log/kern.log, from the boot, please? |
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| 13:54.10 | adzafdd | vlt: see http://pastebin.com/Gr45R7g6 |
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| 13:55.08 | clark__ | hi all, I try to install a Debian base system from the DVD but it don't seems possible ? (I know it can be done using the net install) |
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| 13:55.42 | clark__ | I just can't understand why that option is not available ? |
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| 13:56.11 | dvs | clark__: What is the name of the ISO image? |
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| 13:56.44 | clark__ | dvs, Debian wheezy 20140209-20:12 |
| 13:56.58 | dvs | that is not the name of an ISO file |
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| 13:57.51 | clark__ | dvs, it is the name of the DVD , don't have the iso file anymore |
| 13:58.53 | clark__ | I just hapen to find this CD I burn sometime in the beginning of this year and don't have a Internet connection to download |
| 13:59.44 | dvs | clark__: I have no idea if that DVD will be useful. |
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| 14:00.44 | clark__ | dvs, thanks anyway, it seems no options are given for just a base install. I find it a bit strange but anyway |
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| 14:01.27 | ezra-s | when is debian 8.0 coming? |
| 14:01.39 | dvs | !wwjr |
| 14:01.39 | dpkg_ | I have no idea when Debian 8.0 "Jessie" will release -- when it's ready, I guess, but I do know about the <jessie freeze>. For user contributed guesses on when it will release, ask me about <jessie pool 1>. See also <release goals>, <wir>. |
| 14:01.47 | lioh | clark__, what about: using a netinstall (e.g. on an usb stick) and edit sources /etc/apt/sources.list to use the dvd as repository? |
| 14:02.03 | ezra-s | !jessie freeze |
| 14:02.04 | dpkg_ | Remember, remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot! Debian 8.0 "Jessie" will be frozen on 2014-11-05 after which no new versions of packages will enter the release and a period of intense bug fixing begins. See http://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html or ask me about <slushy>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot |
| 14:02.18 | ezra-s | ohh, nice |
| 14:02.23 | ezra-s | thanks for the info |
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| 14:06.55 | clark__ | lioh, yes that might be an option but just download a ISO file with everything included should be a better option for me, Do you know if the latest DVD images support a basic install ? |
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| 14:08.08 | lioh | clark__, no, sorry. |
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| 14:10.18 | clark__ | lioh, thanks anyway! |
| 14:10.52 | lioh | clark__, try #debian-cd |
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| 14:13.01 | clark__ | lioh, oh, I did not know there was many debian channels https://wiki.debian.org/IRC#Debian_IRC_channels . good to know! |
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| 14:20.18 | you_ | how to make the console show chinese correctly? i install the ttf-wqy-zenhei, and add <match> in the fonts.conf, but it doesn't work. |
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| 14:23.07 | gdm85 | in order to allow user1 to modify files owned by www-data, shall user1 be in www-data group or the other way round? |
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| 14:24.08 | dvs | gdm85: user1 needs to be part of www-data group |
| 14:24.24 | gdm85 | dvs: ok, thanks |
| 14:24.27 | lioh | is back (gone 01:42:33) |
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| 14:27.11 | blueeagle | lioh: Thank you for letting us know. |
| 14:27.55 | lioh | blueeagle, sorry? |
| 14:28.04 | themill | dpkg: tell lioh about away |
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| 14:28.48 | lioh | oh, sorry. |
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| 14:29.03 | themill | np |
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| 14:32.13 | ghoulsblade | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:38.54 | nicxz | ghoulsblade: It depends on what's causing this. I would start by checking the grub config in rescue mode i guess? See https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en |
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| 14:42.14 | ghoulsblade | nicxz, thats the suprising thing acutally, after reboot i just get a line saying "grub " and nothing else, no interactive menu etc |
| 14:42.29 | ghoulsblade | only thing that does anything at that point is doing ctrl-alt-del |
| 14:42.32 | ghoulsblade | to reboot |
| 14:43.15 | ghoulsblade | i can still access the harddisk by the "rescue mode" of the debian install cd and change stuff, but nothing i tried so far helped |
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| 14:45.35 | ghoulsblade | wait a sec, is the grub installed by current debian stable (7.6.0 downloaded today) saying "grub version 1.99-27+deb7u2" on top ? |
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| 14:46.18 | ghoulsblade | i think i just had an old grub in the mbr of the other harddisk, sorry, problem solved i think =) |
| 14:46.35 | nicxz | ghoulsblade: that's always a possibility |
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| 14:47.45 | nicxz | although https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/grub-pc does report grub-pc 1.99-27+deb7u2 as the current version |
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| 14:48.19 | lioh | themill, just because i am curious: did your ctcp version influence dpkgs answer? |
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| 14:48.55 | ghoulsblade | yep works, did grub-install /dev/sdb and now both work, sorry =) |
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| 14:49.05 | abhi | no problem |
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| 14:49.47 | abhi | any more problems? |
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| 14:51.32 | nicxz | good :) |
| 14:51.48 | jhambo | is the fact that many websites I visit (google, my university webmail, etc) suddenly can't establish a connection a debian stable problem? |
| 14:52.10 | jhambo | expired certificates... |
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| 14:53.56 | mtn | jhambo: no, not a debian problem |
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| 15:06.03 | punkgeek | File '/tmp/db_import.txt' not found (Errcode: 13) why i get this error? |
| 15:06.25 | punkgeek | perm is ok, but i dont know why i get this error wehn import mysql db |
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| 15:10.17 | nkuttler | !tell punkgeek about errors |
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| 15:11.39 | ThreeOClock | How in the nine hells is getting an email server setup still the most complex thing in sysadminning??? |
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| 15:11.58 | ThreeOClock | throws random objects through the window |
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| 15:12.06 | Nik05 | ThreeOClock what server are you usign? :P |
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| 15:12.22 | ThreeOClock | postfix and dovecot |
| 15:12.47 | ThreeOClock | Somehow I've got to get dovecot to understand that the accounts are *virtual* and I'm missing some element there. |
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| 15:13.07 | ThreeOClock | Doesn't really help that the devteam thought "hey, you know what would be great? If we split our config files into dozens of files all over the place!" |
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| 15:14.24 | punkgeek | no body help me? |
| 15:14.47 | nkuttler | punkgeek: i tried to.. read the msg the bot sent you |
| 15:14.54 | punkgeek | ok |
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| 15:16.22 | nkuttler | ThreeOClock: considering that configuring the smtpd is so much less work than handholding the users.. who cares.. |
| 15:16.39 | nkuttler | ThreeOClock: pretty sure those teams are open to doc and other patches |
| 15:17.19 | ThreeOClock | Originally I went with qmail... But then I found out it didn't have built-in tls-auth for smtp |
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| 15:17.29 | ThreeOClock | So now I'm here and smtp works... But imap doesn't! |
| 15:17.37 | jaybe | cack; qmail |
| 15:17.49 | punkgeek | The used command is not allowed with this MySQL version |
| 15:18.04 | nkuttler | punkgeek: paste.debian.net, entire command + output please |
| 15:18.10 | nkuttler | !bat |
| 15:18.10 | dpkg_ | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 15:18.13 | nkuttler | punkgeek: also that ^^ |
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| 15:19.21 | nkuttler | punkgeek: make that just "apt-cache policy mysql-server" |
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| 15:19.37 | punkgeek | im using php and this error is phps output |
| 15:20.00 | nkuttler | punkgeek: hm? are you using some php app.. or.. ? |
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| 15:21.30 | punkgeek | PDO |
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| 15:22.24 | zeugma | greetings all. I'm new to using a debian-based distro but have been using fedora since the stone age. I have a question about apt. Basically, I've been trying to get it to dump the output of a list of all installed apps at an 'info' level. |
| 15:22.48 | zeugma | basically, I'd like to know if there is an equivalent to "yum info all" |
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| 15:23.37 | nkuttler | zeugma: which debian-based distro do you use? |
| 15:24.37 | achadwick | zeugma: Do you need more info than what "dpkg -l \* | grep ^i" gives you? |
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| 15:28.15 | zeugma | I'm running Mint |
| 15:29.33 | zeugma | i'd like to have the full descriptions, but that's a big step in the right direction. thanks! |
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| 15:32.52 | achadwick | zeugma: you may find that apt show "." is the near-exact equivalent. The "." is a package name search regex. "yum info all" is documented as showing *everything*, not just installed packages, according to http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/YumCommands |
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| 15:34.04 | LordDeath | hasn't this package too many recommends? https://packages.debian.org/de/wheezy-backports/owncloud |
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| 15:34.18 | LordDeath | why should I install libreoffice on a server? |
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| 15:35.33 | Walex | zeugma: APT is a dependency manager, it does not manage *installed* packages, only *available* ones. |
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| 15:35.50 | themill | zeugma: btw less /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages* |
| 15:36.08 | DiskError | Hi debian. Yerstday evening, I tried to run debian installer from debian stable. My Hard Disk was full encrypted, so debian asked me for partition, because it didn't recognize it. I tried a way to decrypt the encrypted partition, but I haven't found. So, I stopped the installation without write anything on disk and I tried to boot the hard disk. Now, the problem is that it don't run because it doesn't found the groups. |
| 15:36.08 | DiskError | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.16 | DiskError | http://pastebin.com/AiCc48nx http://pastebin.com/eVYb2NkS |
| 15:36.25 | lioh | LordDeath, maybe to show a preview of a document? |
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| 15:36.44 | themill | zeugma: or "aptitude show ~i" |
| 15:36.49 | babilen | dpkg_: tell zeugma -about mint |
| 15:36.50 | zeugma | ahcadwick, you're right about the 'yum info all' showing everything. I don't mind having everything, as long as I have full descriptions, I'll figure out a way to manipulate it how I need. |
| 15:37.18 | babilen | dselect: tell zeugma -about mint |
| 15:37.27 | petn-randall | zeugma: apt-cache show <yourpackage>, but really you should be asking in your distro's channel. |
| 15:38.11 | babilen | zeugma: You might want to seek support in linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org rather than here as you decided to use that distribution and not Debian which we support in this channel. |
| 15:38.43 | DX099 | I'm trying to do an update-initramfs but am failing : http://paste.debian.net/113607/ Can someone help me solve this , |
| 15:39.04 | DX099 | s/,/? |
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| 15:39.39 | zeugma | thanks for the info folks. off to another channel. |
| 15:39.46 | nkuttler | DX099: add set -x to /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/fuse and run again |
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| 15:42.02 | DX099 | nkuttler, "add set -x" ? |
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| 15:42.45 | nkuttler | DX099: ? |
| 15:43.07 | DX099 | I don't get what you mean by "add set -x" |
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| 15:43.42 | nkuttler | DX099: open the file with an editor |
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| 15:44.29 | DX099 | nkuttler, ah the first line says 'set -e' so I replace that ? |
| 15:45.00 | nkuttler | DX099: no, that's not what i said |
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| 15:46.06 | DX099 | nkuttler, ah ok I'll add it |
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| 15:47.27 | daniel__ | I'm trying to view a DVD in Debian. When I type sudo blkid /dev/sr0, the player will pop up and start reading. However, with most movies it won't, it'll just show blank. The DVDs work in other computers. What could be the problem? |
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| 15:49.31 | Walex | daniel__: region settings? DVDCSS decoding? |
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| 15:50.51 | DX099 | nkuttler, ah very usefull output : "+ [ -f /sbin/mount.fuse ] |
| 15:50.51 | DX099 | + return 1" |
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| 15:51.36 | nkuttler | DX099: apt-cache policy fuse? |
| 15:52.03 | daniel__ | Walex, but should that matter with blkid? |
| 15:52.25 | daniel__ | Walex, shouldn't it show the name of the dvd regardless of the region settings? |
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| 15:53.26 | mtn | daniel__: is libdvdcss2 installed? |
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| 15:53.50 | Walex | daniel__: DVD-movie disks have a different from DVD-data dones. |
| 15:53.52 | DX099 | nkuttler, I just installed it : http://paste.debian.net/113610/ |
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| 15:55.35 | nkuttler | DX099: no idea, sorry.. maybe if i saw the entire output though |
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| 15:56.48 | DX099 | nkuttler, the output stopped there, but it's fine, thanks, installing fuse did the trick |
| 15:57.07 | nkuttler | wat.. |
| 15:57.13 | [E]sc | i'm having some trouble with missing files. when I do ls -l it will show up but the file properties are all "?". I tried using photorec to recover but that hasn't been successful. is it something wrong with my hard drive? or is there another way to solve this? |
| 15:57.23 | nkuttler | DX099: well, good for you :) |
| 15:57.28 | oeitei_ | Is it unsafe to use skype as root in linux ? |
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| 15:57.45 | mtn | oeitei_: don't run anything as root unless you have to. |
| 15:57.46 | weeb1e_ | Hi everyone. Does anyone know how I can make apt-get -y install block until the process ends? If I try to do stuff after apt-get -y install in a bash script, it continues executing the bash script half way through the apt (after downloading apt data, before actually starting to install anything), which makes bash print out the rest of the script but never execute it (since apt is still running) |
| 15:58.09 | daniel__ | mtn, : Package 'libdvdcss2' has no installation candidate |
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| 15:58.23 | mtn | daniel__: take a look at the debian wiki ;) |
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| 15:59.15 | LtL | [E]sc: insure the directory is chmod'd 755 or atleast 700 |
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| 15:59.37 | mzaza | Is my .bashrc configured correctly to handle spaces in directories on the 3 lines from buttom, http://pastebin.com/8UQResRj ? |
| 16:00.18 | DX099 | nkuttler, well the verbose output that your 'set -x' made the script product pointed that /sbin/fuse didn't exist. I could only assume then that fuse was a module needed for the initial ramdisk and since it wasn't installed, initramfstool couldn't build the image |
| 16:00.42 | [E]sc | LtL, i can't even do that, it's like a ghost directory. it was previously there before I had to do a reboot and now it's gone |
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| 16:01.34 | LtL | [E]sc: try 'stat dirname' whats the access line say |
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| 16:02.06 | daniel__ | mtn, thanks! let me try that out. |
| 16:02.14 | daniel__ | Walex, thanks for that. |
| 16:02.19 | mtn | daniel__: welcome |
| 16:02.26 | LtL | [E]sc: if the dir is gone i dont know what you're seeing/not seeing |
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| 16:02.47 | [E]sc | LtL, ahh...can't stat, input/output error... |
| 16:03.06 | [E]sc | LtL, could it be a bad sector? |
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| 16:03.34 | LtL | [E]sc: what are you doing ls -l on? the current directory? |
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| 16:04.00 | [E]sc | LtL, no the directory that holds that subdirectory |
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| 16:04.54 | LtL | [E]sc: try chmod 755 'the first/highest directory' |
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| 16:07.12 | [E]sc | LtL, ok, i tried that. ls cannot access .... input/output error |
| 16:07.57 | LtL | [E]sc: i/o errors tend to be drive failure. can you ls -l other directories? |
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| 16:08.48 | [E]sc | LtL, yes, i can ls -l majority of the directories, there are currently 2 directories and 6 files that can't be accessed |
| 16:09.07 | [E]sc | LtL, so i guess this hard drive is about to die on me then? |
| 16:09.33 | LtL | [E]sc: thats possible |
| 16:09.57 | ccr | anyone else experienced local filesystems not unmounting on reboot/shutdown on current testing with systemd? has happened few times to me now :S |
| 16:10.21 | [E]sc | LtL, strange because smartctl didn't show any problems |
| 16:11.32 | LtL | [E]sc: does ls -ld dir/ show anthing |
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| 16:12.41 | [E]sc | LtL, nothing, still says input/output error |
| 16:12.48 | LtL | [E]sc: you might try moving the directory to a temp dir with 'mv dir/' |
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| 16:17.52 | mzaza | Here's the custom lines in .bashrc http://pastebin.com/BxacjzWS and here's the error http://pastebin.com/pNxxxq7S, any ideas on how to fix? |
| 16:18.16 | [E]sc | LtL, can't do that either...maybe it's gone or corrupted |
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| 16:21.00 | LtL | [E]sc: hopefully its just corrupted somehow, got a backup? |
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| 16:23.44 | [E]sc | LtL, sadly, this is the backup...but it's nothing too important that i couldn't find online again. is there a way to fix corrupted files? it's not registering with photorec right now. |
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| 16:24.36 | LtL | [E]sc: i don't know of any fix, others may know |
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| 16:25.39 | [E]sc | LtL, ok. Thanks for your advice and time. |
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| 16:26.04 | LtL | [E]sc: Welcome, good luck |
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| 17:04.57 | olivier_bK | how to create a use without password |
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| 17:05.16 | daniel__ | I'm trying to view a DVD in Debian. When I type sudo blkid /dev/sr0, the player will pop up and start reading. However, with most movies it won't, it'll just show blank. The DVDs work in other computers. I've already installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdread, What could be the problem? |
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| 17:06.30 | nkuttler | daniel__: which command are you using to play them? |
| 17:07.19 | daniel__ | well, I tried blkid /dev/sr0 and it opened the player with some. Right now, I tried mplayer -v dvd://1 |
| 17:07.30 | jaybe | olivier_bK, you can edit /etc/passwd with `vipw` or other utilities to set the password to an asterick * |
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| 17:09.44 | olivier_bK | but where i must to place my * in the line zyriuse:x:1002:1002::/home/zyriuse:/bin/sh |
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| 17:11.15 | jaybe | olivier_bK, in /etc/shadow, it's the second field separated by a colon : |
| 17:11.25 | daniel__ | nkuttler, well, I tried blkid /dev/sr0 and it opened the player with some. Right now, I tried mplayer -v dvd://1 It won't work on certain dvds. It's like they're not detected. The DVDs work on other systems though. |
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| 17:18.56 | daniel__ | nkuttler, this is the result of the mplayer command: http://pastebin.com/ZVcknuws |
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| 17:20.13 | nkuttler | daniel__: looks like mplayer is using the wrong device |
| 17:20.29 | nkuttler | but i don't really use dvds, can't help you much with that |
| 17:20.35 | nkuttler | i'd probably try vlc though |
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| 17:21.17 | daniel__ | nkuttler, thanks, what's weird is that debian doesn't even find the dvd |
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| 17:22.27 | herr | ave tux! |
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| 17:22.44 | jhutchins | !dvd |
| 17:22.44 | dpkg_ | [dvd] Digital Versatile Disc. To play a video DVD, ask me about <dvd playback>, then use either <totem>, <vlc>, <xine> or <mplayer>. To burn a DVD, ask me about <wodim> or <growisofs>. To download Debian DVD images, ask me about <iso> and <small dvd>. To buy Debian DVDs, ask me about <vendors>. To copy/rip/transcode DVD video, ask me about <dvd ripping>. |
| 17:23.11 | herr | how to install virtualbox guest addons properly on the debian jessy? |
| 17:23.38 | daniel__ | !dvd playback |
| 17:23.39 | dpkg_ | To play DVDs, you need media playing software, ask me about <dvd> for suggestions. You will likely require the libdvdcss2 package to be installed, ask me about <libdvdcss>. You will also need to set a region on your DVD player; if you have never done so before, use regionset. See also <dvd playback troubleshooting>. |
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| 17:24.21 | herr | i tried to run script provided by oracle, but this seems to have problem since it can't find sources of the kernel |
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| 17:26.29 | herr | ooh nvm i think i know what i did wrong |
| 17:26.47 | herr | it was m-a prepare that seems to be missing |
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| 17:33.22 | jhutchins | herr: Did you install the kernel sources? |
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| 17:35.29 | babilen | herr: module-assistant has been obsoleted by <dkms> -- I'd recommend to use that -- /msg dpkg dkms |
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| 17:38.24 | jhutchins | babilen: Oracle sometimes clings to older methods. |
| 17:38.28 | herr | hmmmm |
| 17:38.31 | herr | ok |
| 17:38.38 | herr | jhutchins: i belive i did |
| 17:39.14 | jhutchins | herr: The install should have a "configure" script or something that finds various components. |
| 17:39.20 | herr | !dpkg_dkms |
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| 17:40.09 | herr | jhutchins: hm, maybe it was wrong version of source package? |
| 17:40.33 | herr | pitty that that host left at work |
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| 17:41.04 | herr | i'm just trying to adress this properly tomorrow |
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| 17:41.15 | babilen | judd: info virtualbox-guest-dkms --release testing |
| 17:41.16 | judd | Package virtualbox-guest-dkms (contrib/kernel, optional) in jessie/i386: x86 virtualization solution - guest addition module source for dkms. Version: 4.3.14-dfsg-1; Size: 474.4k; Installed: 3533k; Homepage: http://www.virtualbox.org/ |
| 17:41.23 | babilen | herr: You are aware of ^^^ aren't you? |
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| 17:41.39 | herr | babilen: yes i installed it |
| 17:41.50 | herr | kinda a blind move here |
| 17:42.00 | babilen | So what do you need m-a for then? |
| 17:42.05 | herr | i don't know |
| 17:42.19 | herr | been a while since installing any kernel modul |
| 17:42.30 | herr | and i was in a hury |
| 17:42.32 | babilen | Okay, what is missing? Why are you doing things of which you don't know why you do them? |
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| 17:43.26 | herr | babilen: well, i was surprised that guest additions were not in the repo (i belive they have been there back in the days) |
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| 17:43.45 | herr | and since i was rushing, i wanted to do anything |
| 17:43.49 | babilen | But they are (in contrib naturally) |
| 17:44.17 | herr | oh |
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| 17:45.46 | herr | babilen: i was under impression that the actuall modul package is gone |
| 17:46.08 | herr | and you need to mount iso and run script |
| 17:46.13 | herr | is that correct? |
| 17:46.23 | babilen | herr: I just asked one of our bots, judd, to show you information about a package that is in the archive. You need a sources.list that includes <contrib> and <non-free> in order to install it (well, just <contrib> really in this case) |
| 17:47.06 | babilen | herr: It gets you a .sh file, yeah IIRC (I can't stand virtualbox and try to avoid it whenever I can) |
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| 17:47.33 | babilen | But then I am not sure. I know that it is the virtualbox guest addition DKMS package .. why don't you take a look? |
| 17:47.50 | herr | judd: info virtualbox-guest-additions --release testing |
| 17:47.51 | judd | No package named 'virtualbox-guest-additions' was found in jessie/i386. |
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| 17:48.20 | babilen | The name of the package is virtualbox-guest-dkms (as exemplified above) |
| 17:48.34 | herr | babilen: hmmm, ok |
| 17:49.22 | herr | babilen: pardon me, indeed the message from the bot is clear |
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| 17:51.08 | herr | bakaneko: let me ask one more question: can i expect that after restarting virtual machine everything will work just fine? |
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| 17:51.23 | herr | bakaneko: oops sorry |
| 17:51.39 | herr | babilen: i actually wanted to ask you but i tab-failed |
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| 17:53.23 | herr | babilen: ok, anyway, thanks for your assitance sir, sorry for annoyence -- as i said i was in the hurry |
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| 17:54.50 | yoLo_ | i have installed java jdk1.8.11 in opt and has set it as default but java 1.6 appears when i check for version |
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| 18:04.03 | jmcnaught | yoLo_: causing more trouble for yourself eh? did you try using openjdk-7-jre before installing jdk8? For best results on Debian, stick to the packages available in the repos as much as possible. |
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| 18:08.36 | yoLo_ | jmcnaught, i tried but seems that the sites path ins't in debian repo |
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| 18:09.00 | yoLo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.00 | yoLo_ | E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'java-1.7.0-openjdk' |
| 18:09.50 | yoLo_ | hence i installed jdk8 in opt |
| 18:09.55 | jmcnaught | yoLo_: openjdk-7-jdk is the package name. You can use "apt-cache search foo" (aptitude's search is even better) |
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| 18:10.53 | daniel__ | I cannot detect certain DVDs that work in other systems. I've already installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdread, but some dvds aren't shown, not even with just blkid |
| 18:11.00 | daniel__ | What can I do to fix this? |
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| 18:11.26 | jmcnaught | yoLo_: Java even has its own FAQ manual in debian.org/doc: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/index.en.html |
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| 18:14.08 | yoLo_ | jmcnaught, one small question i know the answer to the question but for security purpose i can install openjdk-7-jdk without messing up any PATHS right ? |
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| 18:15.57 | jmcnaught | yoLo_: not sure what you mean by paths. installing Debian packages from the official repositories won't mess up your system the same way compiling python from source did for you. Also check chapter 3 in the link I gave you, and "man update-java-alternatives" |
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| 18:16.14 | yoLo_ | ok |
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| 18:18.02 | jmcnaught | yoLo_: installing from scripts or even packages from random websites *can* mess up a debian system. Even if the files are put in /opt, that doesn't mean nothing in /etc or elsewhere was modified by the installer |
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| 18:19.11 | yoLo_ | ok |
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| 18:19.34 | markveidemanis | Hi |
| 18:19.35 | jmcnaught | yoLo_: so don't be so quick to install software by downloading it from websites, try to do everything using official Debian packages if you can. Maybe also give https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian a read. |
| 18:19.52 | yoLo_ | jmcnaught = very helpful, vast knowledge |
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| 18:23.10 | jmcnaught | yoLo_: thanks :) If you can do what you need using official Debian packages, even if they're slightly old versions what you get in return is security updates, and confidence that upgrading to the next major Debian Stable release will go smoothly. Every bit of software you add from external sources you give up some of those advantages |
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| 18:23.39 | OldParr | samba dont connects , error: failed to get sharing list from server |
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| 18:26.59 | OldParr | i can not browse my shares, thunar says : failed to get the sharing list from server |
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| 18:27.16 | jhutchins | OldParr: Test with smbclient. |
| 18:27.18 | yoLo_ | jmcnaught, you're definiyte |
| 18:27.29 | yoLo_ | you're definitely right* |
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| 18:36.11 | OldParr | . |
| 18:36.41 | daniel__ | I cannot detect certain DVDs that work in other systems. I've already installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdread, but some dvds aren't shown, not even with just blkid. What can I do to fix this? |
| 18:36.56 | OldParr | the command /usr/bin/smbclient -L host returns --> Connection to host failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME) |
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| 18:38.38 | clark__ | hi, I now install the base Debian system but realize I lack knowledge about how the system are organized and what commands to run for get information about the system |
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| 18:39.33 | mtn | clark__: lspci and lsusb for starters. depends on what you want to do of course. |
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| 18:40.37 | clark__ | can somebody give tips on tutorials that are not so heavy to read and describe thingsl like how to manage groups and users, how to list and understand executables, ip connections and so on .. |
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| 18:41.23 | clark__ | mnt lspci and lsusb, I will check it out .. wait |
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| 18:41.42 | mtn | waits patiently |
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| 18:43.20 | smartass | hi, if I install sysemd, will lgond replace consolekit? couldn't find anything clear |
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| 18:43.32 | smartass | *systemd, logind |
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| 18:44.51 | Brigo | smartass, try asking in #debian-systemd in oftd network |
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| 18:45.00 | Expi1 | Hello, when I use a python virtual environment, it still uses the python system version instead of that of the virtual environment. What's going on, this has only happened on Debian? |
| 18:45.23 | smartass | Brigo: thanks :) |
| 18:45.32 | Brigo | smartass, np |
| 18:45.53 | acemi | clark__: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ |
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| 18:47.07 | clark__ | mtn, ok I see they are commands for inspecting the hardware ? guess I want to wait a bit learning that. I have a working debian base system and thought I should start by get a better understanding for how user permissions, executables and so on work and how to access that information |
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| 18:50.22 | mtn | clark__: you did notice what acemi told you, didn't you? |
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| 18:51.48 | clark__ | mtn, actually I did , I am looking at the book now to be able to see if it is what I am looking for, should been answer with a wait message : ) |
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| 18:52.44 | clark__ | (I see it after I answer you) |
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| 18:52.57 | mtn | clark__: of course it is not hard to find info by asking a search engine, either |
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| 18:55.51 | mhall | Hello, I was wondering, if I wanted to use a CLI tool to extract a field from a debian/control, how do I do it? I tried dpkg-awk but it didn't seem to be doing what I expected. It just prints every field. |
| 18:56.28 | clark__ | mtn, I find it difficult to find good guides, using search engines in general, it is hard to know if the guides are good or bad before you read them |
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| 18:57.13 | mtn | clark__: when it comes to linux commands, they should mostly be the same. the commands don't change. |
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| 18:58.47 | mawe | one of my harddisks shows current_pending_sectors 16, and someone told me that i should do a manual raid resync to ensure that the sectors get reallocated, will this force the sectors to get reallocated and how can i initiate a manual resync? |
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| 18:59.05 | clark__ | mtn, yes I guess I looking for learning more about unix systems, I know most everyday commands but then it comes to things like user managment and so on I am lost |
| 18:59.10 | jmcnaught | clark__: some (maybe lots) of tutorials you find on the internet can be outdated or simply contain bad advice. Being familiar with the material in the Debian Handbook, Debian Reference and other good sources like the Debian Wiki will help you spot the bad advice in tutorials. It's best to try and find the information you need in official documentation first before turning to random tutorials |
| 18:59.13 | gabo_ | hi |
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| 19:01.54 | clark__ | jmcnaught, I see, I am looking at the handbook now but it is a lot of text, was hoping for a more hands on basic tutorial : ) |
| 19:02.15 | clark__ | do most people reading this book ? |
| 19:02.28 | mtn | clark__: it is hard to avoid doing reading using the internet |
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| 19:03.12 | jmcnaught | clark__: the handbook is very good, i also really like the Debian Reference. You might also check out the reference card |
| 19:03.25 | jmcnaught | dpkg_: tell clark__ about grounding |
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| 19:06.20 | mhall | Un*x kind of made a choice that initial usability would be lesser, so that later usability would be greater. So there's no way out of finding the right docs |
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| 19:09.58 | clark__ | jmcnaught, by Debian Reference you mean this https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ right ? Yes that looks really useful instead of searching forum for stuff , thanks |
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| 19:11.07 | dD_ | what does it mean if blkid won't detect some DVDs? |
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| 19:12.22 | rryoumaa | i think unix made the choice to do whatever, whenever |
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| 19:26.48 | haole | kind of off-topic, but here it goes... I have an internal lan on a separate network card that has no connection to the internet... however, I have another network card that is online... how do I make my computer a gateway to this internal lan? |
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| 19:30.24 | ovanu | haole: "an internal LAN on a separate network card" isn't clear. Please be more specific. |
| 19:31.06 | haole | ovanu: I have two network cards, eth0 and eth1. eth0 is a dhcp server for an internal network with devices connected to a hub. eth1 is connected to the internet |
| 19:31.17 | haole | I think what I want is in this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/23 |
| 19:31.21 | haole | but I'm not sure it's up-to-date |
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| 19:42.54 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 19:43.43 | Azrael_- | i'm running courier-imap and i can't delete some messages with the mail-client. other messages work just fine in the same folder. what could this be and how could i analyze/solve this? |
| 19:43.47 | angoraSGA | hello |
| 19:45.10 | angoraSGA | zdravo |
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| 19:45.51 | maher77 | hi |
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| 19:46.33 | maher77 | i want khnow how install chrome ? |
| 19:46.34 | angoraSGA | what is russian server here? |
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| 19:47.13 | maher77 | i want khnow how install chrome ? |
| 19:47.37 | angoraSGA | first download and then set up |
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| 19:47.56 | angoraSGA | type download chrome |
| 19:48.30 | babilen | maher77: Debian packages Chromium. You would have to grab Chrome from upstream (i.e. google) and install it manually by following their instructions. |
| 19:48.40 | maher77 | thinks angoraSGA |
| 19:48.49 | babilen | angoraSGA: Are you looking for Debian support in Russian? |
| 19:48.59 | angoraSGA | yes |
| 19:49.03 | babilen | dpkg_: ru |
| 19:49.05 | angoraSGA | maher from? |
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| 19:49.09 | babilen | dselect: ru |
| 19:49.10 | dselect | ??? ?????????????????? ?????, ??????????, ???????? ??-????????? ??? ???????? #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
| 19:49.14 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 19:49.24 | angoraSGA | thanks |
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| 19:50.26 | dD_ | what does it mean if blkid won't detect some DVDs? |
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| 19:50.53 | dD_ | I cannot detect certain DVDs that work in other systems. I've already installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdread, but some dvds aren't shown, not even with just blkid. How can I debug this? |
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| 19:54.33 | babilen | dD_: You might want to rather try playing them with, say, vlc. |
| 19:55.01 | babilen | (and some discs can't be read because or region peskiness) |
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| 20:01.01 | dD_ | babilen, I tried with everything, but they don't seem to be detected. |
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| 20:01.14 | dD_ | babilen, this is in a friend's distribution, while in my distribution they play perfectly well. |
| 20:01.29 | dD_ | babilen, installation* |
| 20:02.36 | jhutchins | babilen: iirc region codes are in the firmware of the actual drive? |
| 20:03.41 | babilen | It depends, but most non-Linux players set it there, yeah |
| 20:03.50 | babilen | dD_: Which distributions are we talking about here? |
| 20:05.19 | babilen | jhutchins: Region settings are almost as stupid as opening hours for websites, but I am referring to RPC2 (cd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Playback_Control) |
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| 20:09.02 | ovanu | haole: I found this link which I haven't verified as functional but it contains the same instructions within it as the link you had provided but also offers a way to undo your work in the even you do not get your desired results. https://www.netsick.net/posts/3/dhcp-gateway-and-port-forwarding-on-debian-wheezy |
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| 20:10.47 | jhutchins | babilen: Yes, in firmware as I remembered. |
| 20:11.14 | dD_ | babilen, I'm on testing, she's on stable. |
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| 20:12.11 | jhutchins | dD_: I t could be a matter of hardware. |
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| 20:13.45 | jhutchins | dD_: I just thought of something, what kind of DVDs are they? |
| 20:14.10 | dD_ | jhutchins, movie dvds. One is planet of the apes, the other is a peruvian movie. |
| 20:14.30 | jhutchins | dD_: Official commercial copies? |
| 20:14.38 | dD_ | jhulst, yes |
| 20:14.57 | dD_ | jhutchins, yes* |
| 20:15.12 | jhutchins | dD_: Ok, so not the possibility I though of (non-finalized burns). |
| 20:15.59 | dD_ | jhutchins, does it make sense that it just won't read a specific one, if it's hardware? |
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| 20:16.01 | jhutchins | dD_: How old is your drive? |
| 20:16.44 | jhutchins | dD_: Yes, and computer drives tend to be fairly low quality and somewhat inconsistent. |
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| 20:17.33 | dD_ | jhutchins, hm.. about 4-5 years |
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| 20:18.11 | jhutchins | dD_: How the BIOS interacts with the drive varies too, I used to build systems on a variety of hardware, and I had three or four different (USB) DVD drives because some systems would boot off of one, but not off of the other. |
| 20:18.32 | jhutchins | dD_: That is certainly old enough to have hardware problems. |
| 20:18.43 | dD_ | jhutchins, how could I check if that's it? |
| 20:18.48 | weasel00 | trying to find a walkthrough on setting up a relay server for internal scripts to mail through but not having any luck with google; any suggestions? |
| 20:19.06 | dD_ | jhutchins, because the movies that work, worked fine before installing libdvdcss2 |
| 20:19.20 | jhutchins | dD_: THere are a range of values for the alignment of tracks on disks, and if your drive is at one end of the range and the disc is at the other it won't read, while a different drive could read it just fine. |
| 20:19.23 | dD_ | jhutchins, and after installing it, the movies that didn't work still don't work. |
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| 20:19.55 | jhutchins | dD_: Well, we can therefore conclude that libdvdcss didn't solve the problem. |
| 20:20.13 | jhutchins | dD_: The only way to see if it's the drive is to try another drive. |
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| 20:20.51 | dD_ | jhutchins, right. but I figured that maybe we can also conclude that the drive does seem to work with unencrypted dvds but not encrypted ones? maybe it didn't install correctly? |
| 20:21.29 | dD_ | jhutchins, thanks. that's the only way to test, right? |
| 20:21.30 | jhutchins | dD_: I would expect that two debian systems would treat encryption the same way - that hasn't changed in a while that I know of. |
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| 20:21.34 | fghrt | I want to load an intel graphics driver from jessie resp, how do I specifically load that driver and install it without installing everything else that might come with changing sources.list? |
| 20:21.58 | jhutchins | dD_: Yeah, and I'm curious enough to try swapping the "bad" drive into the "good" PC to see if it works there. |
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| 20:22.56 | jhutchins | dD_: It's hard to say, I've seen cheap drives last less than two years, I've seen others that lasted more than ten. If you watch movies a lot, it might go out of spec faster. |
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| 20:23.51 | jhutchins | dD_: Make sure the disk is clean, there are also various ways to clean the lenz on a drive. |
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| 20:24.20 | jhutchins | fghrt: You backport it. Rebuild the package as a wheezy package. |
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| 20:24.57 | jhutchins | fghrt: There's a good chance a jessie driver won't work with the version of X on wheezy. |
| 20:25.16 | fghrt | Oh ok. Darn, stuck then! |
| 20:25.19 | trelmarcus | Hey I'm having a aptitude problem.. Let's say I do "aptitude update" I get segmentation fault |
| 20:26.00 | trelmarcus | Why might this be happening ? |
| 20:26.15 | fghrt | According to others I've talked to my kernel is too old and doesn't support my driver. I thought the jessie drivers might fix it. |
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| 20:26.35 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 20:26.36 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.16-rc6-686-pae (3.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.13-2); jessie: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.13-2); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.14.13-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 20:26.54 | jhutchins | fghrt: People who say that are usually wrong about several things involved in video drivers. |
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| 20:27.29 | jhutchins | fghrt: Meaning that even if you go through the hoops they suggest it might not work. |
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| 20:28.07 | fghrt | That's exactly my thought. They think it's not worth the hassle so they refer me to Fedora instead. |
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| 20:28.55 | fghrt | I guess I'm just stubborn, I've seen other users testify to the fact that it should work. They have launched the same kernel on the same make and model laptop and witness no problem what so ever. |
| 20:29.27 | fghrt | They pointed to problems with wifi/eth0 but I fixed that, being just barely a week fresh using linux. |
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| 20:31.35 | jhutchins | fghrt: What's the video chipset concerned? What problems do you have with the driver wheezy uses? |
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| 20:33.19 | fghrt | jhutchins, I actually made a thread about it on reddit. Is it OK if I refer you to it? |
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| 20:34.22 | fghrt | It contains xorg log, dmesg etc etc. |
| 20:35.13 | abrotman | fghrt: Have you tried the kernel and intel drivers from backports? |
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| 20:35.51 | abrotman | oh, nm .. no backported intel driver .. you'd have to try jessie directly |
| 20:35.58 | abrotman | fghrt: what is the PCIID of the device? |
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| 20:36.15 | trelmarcus | Can anyone tell me why I keep getting segmentation fault with aptitude? |
| 20:36.17 | fghrt | I'll just post it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/2cm2zz/intel_graphics_4500_hd_not_working_debian/ |
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| 20:37.16 | fghrt | abrotman, you are more than welcome to chip in if you have any idea on how I can install a newer driver/firmware on this current kernel. |
| 20:37.27 | abrotman | fghrt: which kernel? |
| 20:37.36 | fghrt | 3.14 |
| 20:37.52 | abrotman | fghrt: upgrade teh whole system to jessie |
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| 20:37.59 | abrotman | dpkg_: tell fghrt about wheezy->jessie |
| 20:38.13 | parabyte | Hi does anyone know what channel i need to ask about > 1500 mtu on a 8139too ethernet chipset |
| 20:38.21 | dvs | No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux Kali Linux 1.0.8 Release: |
| 20:38.56 | abrotman | so not really Debian? |
| 20:39.03 | fghrt | abrotman, I don't think I can do that. It's Kali Linux. |
| 20:39.05 | dvs | yup |
| 20:39.18 | abrotman | fghrt: right, so ask them .. any directions we'll give you could destroy your OS .. good luck |
| 20:39.26 | abrotman | fghrt: otherwise, install Debian |
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| 20:39.30 | abrotman | We do not support Kali here |
| 20:39.54 | abrotman | would install Debian, and run Kali in a VM if he needed it for school projecgts |
| 20:39.58 | fghrt | I just thought I'd try out here since it's a derivative of Debian. |
| 20:40.10 | abrotman | fghrt: and as you've just seen, we're good at breaking things that aren't Debian :) |
| 20:40.14 | fghrt | abrotman, But wifi wouldn't work in VM |
| 20:40.20 | nobotz | Trying to run Debian 7.6 on http://ark.intel.com/products/67787/Intel-Server-System-R2308GL4DS9 |
| 20:40.36 | nobotz | the disks are connected to the on-board mini-SAS ports |
| 20:40.38 | abrotman | fghrt: ask the kali channel |
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| 20:40.51 | fghrt | Yeah sorry. I'll leave you to it. Thanks for the information though! |
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| 20:41.05 | nobotz | the board has 2 x 6 gbps SATA-3 ports |
| 20:41.14 | nobotz | which get detected by installer |
| 20:41.24 | nobotz | but rest of the disks on mini-SAS ports don't get detected |
| 20:42.37 | nobotz | any pointers |
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| 20:50.05 | nobotz | it works on CentOS 6.5 though |
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| 20:56.47 | ThreeOClock | Man page doesn't say: can /etc/passwd contain blank lines? |
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| 20:57.05 | tremon | ThreeOClock: why would you want it to? |
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| 20:57.28 | tremon | I would expect the answer to be yes, though I haven't tested it |
| 20:57.33 | ThreeOClock | clarification... comment lines aren't allowed, so I'd like to use blank lines to make the passwd file more 'overseeable' |
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| 20:57.49 | ThreeOClock | as in: first come all the standard system accounts, then the server accounts, then the real user accounts |
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| 20:59.06 | tremon | nobotz: dmesg | grep firmware, or compare kernel versions between Centos and Debian. Maybe the 3.2 kernel of Wheezy is too old for that board |
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| 21:00.12 | ThreeOClock | Hmm, apparently some *nix versions have problems with blank lines in /etc/passwd... Better to just keep a separate file then. |
| 21:00.16 | nobotz | tremon the CentOS kernel version usually doesn't have an exact correlation with the upstream kernel versions, it has backported patches |
| 21:00.30 | nobotz | from later versions if I understand correctly |
| 21:00.40 | tremon | ah ok. Do you have the pci id of the sas controller? |
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| 21:01.04 | nobotz | how do I find that ? |
| 21:01.06 | nobotz | dmesg |
| 21:01.09 | nobotz | or |
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| 21:01.09 | tremon | lspci -nn |
| 21:01.24 | nobotz | does this command work in installer environment |
| 21:01.33 | nobotz | wasn't able to install debian yet |
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| 21:01.40 | tremon | yes, I think it does. try alt-f2 to get a console |
| 21:01.42 | nobotz | because the disks didn't get detected |
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| 21:01.47 | nobotz | okay |
| 21:01.48 | nobotz | let me try |
| 21:02.22 | tremon | I was going to say that can get a newer kernel for Debian 7 from debian backports, but that presupposes a working install first |
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| 21:05.31 | nobotz | tremon which one is the PCI ID |
| 21:05.36 | nobotz | the first digits |
| 21:05.52 | nobotz | 07:00.0 |
| 21:05.59 | tremon | the last id on each line, like [abcd:wxyz] |
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| 21:06.43 | nobotz | [8086:1d6f] |
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| 21:07.40 | nobotz | intel corporation C600/X79 series chipset 4-Port SATA Storage Control Unit |
| 21:07.51 | nobotz | (rev 06) |
| 21:07.55 | tremon | ,pciid 8086:1d6f |
| 21:07.56 | judd | [8086:1d6f] is 'C600/X79 series chipset 4-Port SATA Storage Control Unit' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1d6f |
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| 21:08.28 | tremon | hmm, no mention of required firmware |
| 21:09.35 | tremon | however it also only mentions ata_generic, I would have expected an intel-specific storage driver |
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| 21:10.19 | nobotz | tremon what would be the best course of action |
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| 21:11.22 | tremon | I'm not sure, I'm sadly not familiar with many sas controllers |
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| 21:12.03 | nobotz | given that it works with CentOS |
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| 21:12.21 | nobotz | would re-compiling the driver into debian kernel work ? |
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| 21:12.35 | tremon | any chance you have a second pciid for a storage controller? The Internet seems to suggest that the controller is a re-branded LSI megaraid one |
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| 21:13.02 | nobotz | okay let me look into the list again |
| 21:13.17 | tremon | yes, normally you could try that. But you would also need to include that driver in your installer image, which is another challenge |
| 21:13.46 | tremon | you could try asking #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
| 21:14.20 | nobotz | so there is no other |
| 21:14.32 | nobotz | Serial Attached Controller in the list |
| 21:14.37 | nobotz | perhaps |
| 21:14.54 | nobotz | it doesn't exist in the pci database that installer has |
| 21:14.54 | dvs | nobotz: Why don't you pastebin the entire list? |
| 21:15.08 | nobotz | dvs I am connected to the console via the RMM card |
| 21:15.19 | nobotz | I don't see an option to copy text |
| 21:15.22 | nobotz | off the console |
| 21:15.32 | dvs | !pastebinit |
| 21:15.32 | dpkg_ | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 21:16.19 | tremon | dvs: iiuc he's in the installer environment, do you know if there's a pastebinit udeb? :) |
| 21:16.20 | nobotz | unfortunately the installer console doesn't have pastebinit command |
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| 21:16.40 | dvs | oh, he's currently installing.... nvm |
| 21:16.46 | nobotz | I see another |
| 21:16.54 | nobotz | PCId with no device description |
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| 21:17.16 | nobotz | 8086:0eb6 |
| 21:17.31 | dvs | ,pciid 8086:0eb6 |
| 21:17.32 | judd | [8086:0eb6] is 'Xeon E7 v2/Xeon E5 v2/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller 1 Channel 0-3 ERROR Registers 2' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0eb6 |
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| 21:19.20 | nobotz | 8086:1d02 |
| 21:19.41 | nobotz | 6 port port SATA AHCI Controller |
| 21:19.54 | nobotz | tremon ^^ |
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| 21:20.43 | tremon | nobotz: I have no other suggestions for you. You can hang around, maybe someone else can help you along, or ask #debian-boot |
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| 21:21.42 | tremon | oh wait :1d02 is a normal sata controller |
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| 21:22.38 | tremon | that should just work out of the box. But didn't you say you had 2 regular sata channels, not 6? |
| 21:22.41 | nobotz | tremon I think the first two disks can be connected directly to SATA |
| 21:22.48 | nobotz | yes |
| 21:22.56 | nobotz | there are only two ports on-board |
| 21:23.20 | tremon | well if you have a spare/sata disk or can reconfigure one of your disks, you can always try to install using just one disk |
| 21:23.46 | nobotz | so lets assume I am able to install the box |
| 21:23.57 | nobotz | in that case I should be able to get a back-port kernel |
| 21:24.03 | nobotz | and get the other disks detected right ? |
| 21:24.04 | tremon | in my experience the installer environment is quite limited, it's much easier to use a full installed debian for bootstrapping than the installer itself |
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| 21:24.31 | nobotz | does my approach sound promising or I am missing something ? |
| 21:24.53 | tremon | yes, that's my theory so far. Although when I said that, I had assumed your controller to either be too new, or require firmware |
| 21:25.24 | tremon | neither seems to be the case (according to judd's output), so I'm at a loss why the disks aren't simply recognized by the installer |
| 21:26.18 | tremon | well as long as the box isn't doing anything useful now, there's nothing stopping you from trying it and see how far you get |
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| 21:27.18 | nobotz | so another challenge is that the two SATA ports are 6 Gbps |
| 21:27.28 | nobotz | and instead of using it for OS |
| 21:27.38 | nobotz | it is planned to be used for SSDs for mysql |
| 21:27.40 | nobotz | partition |
| 21:27.44 | nobotz | in RAID-1 |
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| 21:27.59 | nobotz | so that got me stuck with none of the HDDs getting detected on the mini-SAS ports |
| 21:28.30 | tremon | that doesn't have to be a problem. There's always options to migrate your install from one connected disk to another, once all drives are recognized and usable |
| 21:28.52 | nobotz | right |
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| 21:29.10 | nobotz | can rsync and then re-deploy Grub2 |
| 21:29.14 | nobotz | to use the HDDs |
| 21:29.23 | nobotz | and then format SSDs |
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| 21:29.57 | nobotz | its about 3 AM in India now thank you tremon for your suggestions |
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| 21:30.10 | tremon | for instance. You can also install your system on LVM, and do a pvmove to move your system from one disk to another |
| 21:30.35 | nobotz | interesting idea |
| 21:30.42 | tremon | other options as well. Just pick what you're comfortable with |
| 21:30.45 | nobotz | the grub would link up with UUID |
| 21:30.48 | nobotz | of LVM |
| 21:31.01 | nobotz | so it would detect the correct root partition then right ? |
| 21:31.02 | tremon | yes. You'd still need to reinstall grub on the new disk though |
| 21:31.10 | nobotz | right |
| 21:31.24 | nobotz | but ofcourse assuming the backports has drivers for this mini-SAS |
| 21:31.34 | nobotz | so firmware upgrade for BIOS is ruled out |
| 21:31.36 | tremon | I'd tell you to /msg dpkg bdo kernel, but the bot appears to be offline. The bot has some useful quick hints about enabling backports |
| 21:31.40 | nobotz | because the CentOS 6.5 is working |
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| 21:32.41 | tremon | if you boot centos, you can probably use lsmod to find out which storage modules are loaded |
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| 21:33.01 | tremon | it then becomes easier to determine if that driver/module is in debian as well |
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| 21:34.10 | nobotz | yes |
| 21:34.23 | nobotz | intel has released the sources for drivers but targeted only at |
| 21:34.26 | nobotz | RHEL |
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| 21:34.31 | nobotz | and SLES |
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| 21:35.00 | nobotz | I am hoping it went into the upstream kernel as well |
| 21:35.44 | tremon | usually they do |
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| 21:37.25 | mkad | Hi |
| 21:37.58 | surfbrand | Does debian wanna ride me surfboard |
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| 21:39.01 | surfbrand | Hey I'm installing debian now what's a good mirror? |
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| 21:40.54 | dvs | surfbrand: http.debian.net |
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| 21:42.01 | surfbrand | Oh bugger during install of debian 7 I fail to select and install software? No good |
| 21:42.38 | surfbrand | Hmm bootstrap error everytime |
| 21:42.56 | dvs | surfbrand: If you have a connection to the internet, you can install it now. |
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| 21:45.10 | surfbrand | I do it stops at select and install software.. I have a NetBoot installer image keeps freezing at configuring locales? Should I redo the entire install.. I mean base system is already installed |
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| 21:49.01 | surfbrand | Maybe debian 7 isn't the answer |
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| 21:51.25 | dvs | surfbrand: If the base system is already installed then all you need to do is make sure your internet connection works. |
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| 21:52.47 | Otyugh | hey. I'm wondering if there is any sort of software or inbuild function that would get me some logs of the system "before shutdown" ? |
| 21:52.53 | nkuttler | can anybody here run vice/x64 on amd64? I'm getting a SIGILL (Illegal instruction) after munmap() |
| 21:53.14 | nkuttler | ,v vice |
| 21:53.15 | judd | Package: vice on i386 -- squeeze/contrib: 2.2.dfsg-1+b1; wheezy/contrib: 2.3.dfsg-4; jessie/contrib: 2.4.dfsg+2.4.6-2; sid/contrib: 2.4.dfsg+2.4.7-1 |
| 21:53.25 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport vice |
| 21:53.35 | judd | Backporting package vice in sidâwheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy-backports, wheezy, virtual. |
| 21:53.40 | surfbrand | Indubitably |
| 21:54.10 | dvs | nkuttler: I think I installed it on my other computer but I haven't run it for a LONG time. |
| 21:54.30 | nkuttler | dvs: yeah, i'm not sure i've run it since wheezy got out |
| 21:54.39 | surfbrand | Is it gonna install gnome what if I don't want gnome |
| 21:55.19 | dvs | surfbrand: it's going to install what you select to install. |
| 21:55.21 | nkuttler | judd: liar! |
| 21:55.47 | nkuttler | wait, that can't be... must have messed up this system, build-deps won't install |
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| 21:56.14 | tremon | nkuttler: did you notice judd saying "using wheezy-backports"? |
| 21:56.37 | mtn | surfbrand: don't do the desktop task and install what you want after the intall is finished |
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| 21:57.07 | nkuttler | tremon: heh, thanks |
| 21:57.08 | dvs | mtn: surfbrand said the base system is already installed. |
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| 21:57.31 | byte | n8 |
| 21:57.37 | dvs | d8 |
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| 21:58.22 | surfbrand | Yeah it def installed gnome.. No worries I can fix |
| 21:58.36 | dvs | !remove gnome |
| 21:58.37 | dpkg_ | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 21:58.43 | mhoney | anyone know of a provider that will host an arm box like a cubietruck or radxa that you send them? |
| 21:58.54 | mtn | dvs: sounds like conflicting stories, though ;) |
| 21:59.33 | abrotman | mhoney: ask #debian-offtopic or #defocus please |
| 21:59.53 | surfbrand | Hey is there a way to have more than one desktop? |
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| 22:00.30 | dvs | surfbrand: yes, you can |
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| 22:01.08 | teraflop | surfbrand: if I get your question just install a login/session manager and as much _desktops_ as you want |
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| 22:03.41 | day | irssi doesnt get terminated ocassionally when i close my ssh session, any idea what might cause it? Using putty |
| 22:03.42 | julius_ | hi |
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| 22:04.51 | julius_ | on a quad core intel cpu, the amd64 iso just freezes when i hit enter on "install debian" - what could that be? wasnt the amd64 image also applicable for intel? |
| 22:05.58 | surfbrand | Try the net images |
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| 22:06.49 | tremon | julius_: it is, unless your "quad core intel cpu" happens to be an Itanic, which is not very likely. Try booting with some safe flags, like noacpi, noapic |
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| 22:07.10 | surfbrand | Is your computer a mackintosh? Some of them use intel also |
| 22:07.17 | julius_ | tremon, its a desktop q something |
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| 22:07.25 | julius_ | no mac |
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| 22:09.41 | tremon | while you're editing the kernel command line, you can also remove "quiet" and "splash" so there's more information about what's going on |
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| 22:11.31 | cbbigone | hy |
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| 22:12.19 | abrotman | fail |
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| 22:12.55 | julius_ | tremon, for install purposes i only got a old elsa winner gfx card, maybe 2mb of ram from 1996....is that maybe a problem even for the non graphical install? |
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| 22:14.11 | tremon | that's not a problem, however are you sure that a card that old can still be properly connected to a recent(ish) machine? |
| 22:14.36 | tremon | even pci slots have had their supply voltage changed over time |
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| 22:20.00 | julius_ | tremon, looks all normal until i press enter, even the debian menu is displayed correctly |
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| 22:20.38 | julius_ | tremon, gonna take a look at this tomorrow..its late. thx |
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| 22:27.25 | loans | i'm running jessie and ran dist-upgrade the other day (whatup, systemd) and I've got an issue I'm not sure how to start troubleshooting. every time I boot up, networking quits working after 30s-1min |
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| 22:27.36 | loans | if I restart networking.service everything is back to normal |
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| 22:27.59 | strawberries | anyone try steam in multiarch setup on testing or sid? |
| 22:28.53 | Brigo | loans, strawberries for jesiie issues go #debian-next channel on ofct network. |
| 22:29.03 | Brigo | jessie :) |
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| 22:29.09 | abrotman | strawberries: no one at all .. |
| 22:29.11 | loans | ofct meaning not freenode? |
| 22:29.17 | Brigo | strawberries, i have played steam just an hour ago. |
| 22:29.19 | strawberries | loans: correct |
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| 22:29.25 | strawberries | Brigo: that channel is quite slow this time of day ;) |
| 22:29.28 | abrotman | loans: I'd probably guess network-manager is doing sometthing |
| 22:29.47 | strawberries | Brigo: doesnt it break a lot of stuff for you? for example desktop compositing, i mean its not even merging xresources properly anymore |
| 22:29.55 | Brigo | strawberries, may be you are right :) |
| 22:30.10 | strawberries | do i need to install virtually all driver related stuff for i386 as well then? |
| 22:30.19 | Brigo | strawberries, i am using mate with composition and no problems. |
| 22:30.39 | Brigo | i have isntalled steam some months ago. |
| 22:30.42 | strawberries | i see. is mate particularly good for steam? |
| 22:30.55 | abrotman | that would have no impact |
| 22:30.57 | Brigo | strawberries, as far as i know, no. It is a gnome2 port |
| 22:31.19 | Brigo | or fork, better said |
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| 22:31.31 | strawberries | abrotman: well, it cant get much worse/weird than right now. naturally this is on a separate drive so im just playing around with it |
| 22:31.56 | abrotman | naturally? |
| 22:32.19 | strawberries | abrotman: ? |
| 22:32.40 | abrotman | isn't sure why it's natural |
| 22:33.00 | strawberries | what specifically? |
| 22:33.09 | strawberries | installing nonfree junk on a separate disk? pretty natural to me |
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| 22:38.03 | strawberries | night |
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| 23:07.21 | deitarion | What's the recommended way to have apt install a specific few packages from an older release than the rest of the system? (Technically an Ubuntu question at the moment, but it's an APT question and I can see uses on my Debian boxes too) |
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| 23:08.03 | _unreal_ | ok needing some help, just got debian 7.6 installed finally and working |
| 23:08.17 | _unreal_ | I need to install ATI video drivers for my x1050 |
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| 23:09.07 | socomm | _unreal_: xserver-xorg-video-ati maybe? |
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| 23:09.17 | _unreal_ | I'm sshed into the computer that I installed to. also there is no gui installed yet |
| 23:09.40 | _unreal_ | ok how do I check to see what driver has been installed? |
| 23:09.56 | _unreal_ | err never mind I |
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| 23:19.08 | deitarion | Never mind. I'll just manually include the three .debs in the git repo I use for my roaming profile and add a `dpkg -i [...]; echo "geeqie hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections; apt-get install -f` block to my post-distro-install script. |
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| 23:21.18 | _unreal_ | deitarion, I'd help but I really have no idea :/ |
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| 23:21.53 | deitarion | _unreal_: I've confirmed that my somewhat hacky solution works... and does fix the freeze bug, crash bug, and removal of a desired feature that Geeqie 1.1 brough. |
| 23:22.04 | deitarion | brought* |
| 23:22.18 | _unreal_ | I'm building a linux install from scratch currently. I'm just starting to setup this HUGE tower I have to be my media server |
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| 23:22.36 | _unreal_ | geeqie? |
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| 23:23.09 | deitarion | _unreal_: Fork of GQview. An ACDSee-esque GTK+ image viewer. I've yet to find anything else more responsive for scrolling through images. |
| 23:23.18 | socomm | _unreal_: why would you need a huge tower for a media server? |
| 23:23.28 | nell | I want to setup my debian box so that I can connect to it remotely. for that I am gunna use freedns w/ static IP -- is this the surest way forward? |
| 23:23.49 | _unreal_ | because it holds over 20 multi TB hard drives to store all movies and music |
| 23:24.16 | socomm | nell: if your ISP provides static IPs at no extra charge, sure |
| 23:24.19 | _unreal_ | nell, ? what kind of connect |
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| 23:24.23 | socomm | nell: otherwise look into Dynamic DNS |
| 23:24.32 | _unreal_ | local lan or over the internet |
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| 23:24.52 | nell | SSH connect _unreal_ |
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| 23:25.18 | socomm | nell: why not VPN? |
| 23:25.43 | nell | I have a VPN already |
| 23:25.44 | socomm | nell: also if you're gonna expose SSH to the public internet I'd suggest looking at Fail2Ban |
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| 23:26.21 | nell | first i gotta edit /etc/network/interfaces and setup static ip for server |
| 23:26.25 | socomm | nell: If you've already got VPN its almost pointless to put your SSH sever on the public internet |
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| 23:26.47 | nell | socomm its not openvpn |
| 23:26.52 | nell | its just vpn i use for public wifi n stuff |
| 23:26.58 | socomm | nell: right, but that static IP is gonna a private IP, no? |
| 23:27.05 | nell | yes it will |
| 23:27.30 | socomm | nell: sure after you set a static IP you're gonna want to port forward on the router |
| 23:28.06 | _unreal_ | OMG I just cant win |
| 23:28.21 | socomm | nell: generally when I port forward a service that isn't HTTP or SMTP I pick a non-standard port for it |
| 23:28.22 | _unreal_ | my HD that I just installed 7.6 to has bad sectors |
| 23:28.33 | nell | but what if my IP changes @ home ? I need dns settings.. you said dynamic DNS |
| 23:28.43 | nell | i am looking @ freedns.afraid.org |
| 23:28.45 | socomm | nell: srcript kiddies are gonna scan the most common ports on your public IP |
| 23:29.03 | nell | I have a nonstandard port |
| 23:29.07 | socomm | nell: I've never used freedns, can't vouch for how good/bad it may be |
| 23:29.40 | socomm | _unreal_: thank god you got 20 other disks to use |
| 23:30.01 | _unreal_ | its a lonely 120gb |
| 23:30.17 | socomm | _unreal_: fsck the disk, see if you can repair it |
| 23:30.22 | _unreal_ | heh currently nothing else is plugged in for the install process |
| 23:31.08 | _unreal_ | not really sure how to be honist |
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| 23:42.36 | patchwerk | test |
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| 23:43.05 | dpkg_ | Test failed. |
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| 23:47.11 | _unreal_ | heh well looks like I'm re-installing with a new hd |
| 23:47.22 | _unreal_ | just popped an old 15giger in |
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| 23:51.10 | msdc | hello everyone. im sorry i realize this doesnt belong here. but im trying to get as many people to read this as possible. If any of you have a moment please try and read this and spread it any way you can or help out. you'll be saving a life. waqarlahore(.)tumblr(.)com/post/93700080566/seeking-asylum-need-your-help |
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| 23:57.02 | _unreal_ | heh almost wiped out the new harddrive before I checked what was on it heh |
| 23:57.13 | _unreal_ | fewwww. lucky there was nothing on it anyways |
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