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| 00:08.51 | Tordek | 's one update available, but aptitude says otherwise. is there a way to see what the alleged pending update is? |
| 00:09.11 | Tordek | update-notification-daemon claims there's one update available, but aptitude says otherwise. is there a way to see what the alleged pending update is? |
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| 00:17.48 | _unreal_ | ugh re-install almost done |
| 00:18.17 | _unreal_ | its prob updated Tordek |
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| 00:18.37 | _unreal_ | the notification daemon may be out of synk |
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| 00:30.35 | _unreal_ | ok how do I go about installing this? also I need to add the non-free repositoryes |
| 00:30.43 | _unreal_ | looking for a little help http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=Legacy1&os=Linux%20x86_64 |
| 00:30.59 | dioz | you'll get raged out on for wanting to install that |
| 00:31.08 | _unreal_ | ? |
| 00:31.10 | dioz | they'll seggest you don't use the ati installer |
| 00:31.15 | _unreal_ | I have no idea what you mean |
| 00:31.26 | _unreal_ | oh??? |
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| 00:31.57 | dioz | but usually you just run the installer then there's a file you run to make the xorg conf |
| 00:32.10 | _unreal_ | and the alternative is? I've been running fedora for years. I"m building a debian media server so I'm a little slow |
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| 00:32.28 | _unreal_ | I dont have a gui installed currently |
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| 00:34.11 | _unreal_ | do I have to have xorg installed before I can install these video drivers? |
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| 00:35.08 | dioz | whenever you choose |
| 00:35.46 | dioz | but you see what's going on here right? |
| 00:35.50 | dioz | you're making a frankendebian |
| 00:36.00 | dioz | you'll be back in X amount of days cause "something new broke" |
| 00:36.04 | Tordek | python /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt_check.py -p <- That's what I had to run to see what was new |
| 00:36.09 | Tordek | and the updated package was... "init"... |
| 00:36.23 | themill | Tordek: which release of debian are you running? |
| 00:36.26 | Tordek | except it wasn't updated; it just wasn't installed |
| 00:36.49 | Tordek | frankentesting |
| 00:36.54 | themill | fun |
| 00:37.14 | Tordek | testing with a few loose packages from exp and stable (because Testing dzen2 sucks) |
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| 00:55.35 | meek_geek | guys how to choose the fastest repo ? |
| 00:55.58 | dvs | meek_geek: http.debian.net |
| 00:56.18 | dvs | or apt-spy |
| 00:57.11 | meek_geek | apt-spy? |
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| 00:57.37 | dvs | It's a package. |
| 00:58.31 | meek_geek | ok |
| 00:58.53 | meek_geek | dvs, Do you know how to install Windows 8.1 Dual boot if I am currently running Debian Xfce on my laptop ? |
| 00:59.03 | dvs | nope |
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| 01:01.52 | meek_geek | ok |
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| 01:06.05 | meek_geek | guys how can I install Windows 8.1 as a dual boot with my Debian Xfce |
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| 01:09.43 | tristero | meek_geek: you'll need a big enough free partition on your laptop's disk or SSD; is there one already? |
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| 01:10.39 | tristero | if not, it's possible to resize the existing one(s) by booting from a rescue image, but it might be easier to reinstall |
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| 01:15.10 | yoLo_ | am i the only one that cannot open more than one terminal in debian ? |
| 01:15.25 | meek_geek | tristero, no i do not have any free space right now? should i boot into debian installation disk and free some space ? |
| 01:15.54 | yoLo_ | nevermind :| |
| 01:16.44 | vook | How could I, with a single string of commands, list all users whose password has expired or will expire within X days? (using chage and standard auth (no ldap)) I'm leaving on vacation and would like to minimize interruptions. |
| 01:19.43 | abrotman | reset them all now :) |
| 01:21.21 | tristero | meek_geek: check out the resize2fs program (and some HOWTOs online) before doing it. You'll need to shrink your filesystem(s), then shrink the partitions that contain them. Make a backup of anything important first! |
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| 01:21.52 | meek_geek | tristero, so you want to say better not do it ? |
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| 01:22.27 | tristero | I've had about a 50% success rate myself :-) |
| 01:22.38 | meek_geek | tristero, with the resize ? |
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| 01:23.16 | tristero | yes, I'd say about half the time I've messed something up and had to reinstall from backup anyway |
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| 01:24.20 | meek_geek | tristero, ok |
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| 01:28.06 | meek_geek | tristero, but did you finally get to install windows 8.1 with debian? |
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| 01:32.23 | shellox | hi, is it necessary to reboot after this update |
| 01:32.25 | shellox | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.48 | dvs | yes |
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| 01:33.43 | shellox | dvs: but uname doesn't change any kernel version, no? in rhel for example i can see it from here" 2.6.32-431.23.3.el6 |
| 01:33.47 | shellox | how to do that in debian? |
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| 01:34.45 | dvs | the uname doesn't change but the package version number does |
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| 01:36.35 | shellox | dvs: so i look at the version number from the output of: aptitude show linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 ? |
| 01:36.43 | dvs | yes |
| 01:36.48 | shellox | i see. thanks |
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| 01:38.06 | el_inventor | hi, |
| 01:38.20 | el_inventor | i need help. :( |
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| 01:39.13 | el_inventor | How I can know if there is a network sniffer on my lan? |
| 01:40.20 | el_inventor | How I can know if a sniffer on my local network? |
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| 01:41.09 | abrotman | el_inventor: ask your network admin |
| 01:41.25 | JHoughtelin | el_inventor: http://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/tcpdump.1.html |
| 01:41.32 | abrotman | el_inventor: how is this related to Debian? |
| 01:41.57 | JHoughtelin | abrotman: Because all networks have Debian... don't they? lol |
| 01:42.15 | abrotman | lololololol |
| 01:42.32 | el_inventor | xD yes... |
| 01:42.38 | abrotman | el_inventor: how is this related to Debian? |
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| 01:45.17 | el_inventor | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.23 | JHoughtelin | el_inventor: Tell abrotman it's cuz you're google is broke. |
| 01:45.36 | JHoughtelin | and my your is broke |
| 01:45.37 | abrotman | JHoughtelin: please stop |
| 01:45.42 | JHoughtelin | stops |
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| 01:45.50 | abrotman | el_inventor: stealing keys? or passwords? |
| 01:45.54 | abrotman | el_inventor: tell your network admin |
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| 01:46.31 | JHoughtelin | abrotman: you're being as helpful as I am. Just look up `tcpdump` or some other network traffic sniffer el_inventor. |
| 01:46.52 | jhutchins | el_inventor: You can't. A sniffer can be entirely passive. |
| 01:47.09 | abrotman | JHoughtelin: that won't really help, you realize that? |
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| 01:48.13 | JHoughtelin | I read the initial question wrong. Fail. sorry |
| 01:49.05 | jhutchins | el_inventor: You have to know every devie connected to your lan, and what it's doing. |
| 01:49.18 | el_inventor | jhutchins: I know that, so I wonder how I can do |
| 01:49.55 | jhutchins | el_inventor: Assume there is one and secure accordingly. |
| 01:50.29 | el_inventor | abrotman: he manages the router, do not ask me why. |
| 01:50.37 | abrotman | el_inventor: then tell your boss .. this is dumb |
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| 01:51.39 | JHoughtelin | Yeah, if it's not your network and it's not your responsibility it sounds like an easy way to get in trouble investigating such a thing. |
| 01:51.53 | _unreal_ | http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=Legacy1&os=Linux%20x86_64 |
| 01:52.00 | _unreal_ | how do I go about installing these video drivers? |
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| 01:52.34 | dvs | AMD proprietary drivers? Not likely to find help here |
| 01:53.39 | _unreal_ | ? |
| 01:53.54 | _unreal_ | why? |
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| 01:56.35 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: the open source radeon driver that is installed by default is pretty good. you might need the package "firmware-linux-nonfree" installed for 3D acceleration to work. The details are here: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo which also has a link to instructions on installing the proprietary drivers if you really need them for some reason |
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| 01:58.08 | _unreal_ | as I understand it steam does not work well with the non-proprietary drivers |
| 01:58.59 | el_inventor | JHoughtelin: abrotman jhutchins , ok, me explico mejor, vivo en una departamento al que llegué hace poco, este muchacho, tiene acceso al router porque estaba mucho antes que yo, desde hace un tiempo atrás, están robando claves, de facebook, gmail, outlook, in cluso mà clave de gmail, y sospecho que es él, |
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| 01:59.10 | zamdroid | hi |
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| 01:59.22 | abrotman | el_inventor: wtf .. |
| 01:59.24 | _unreal_ | jmcnaught, I also do not have a gui installed currently |
| 01:59.37 | _unreal_ | do I need one to get the driver installed? |
| 01:59.42 | zamdroid | anyone use tlp? i installed on my Thomas now my Wi-Fi won't associate |
| 01:59.49 | zamdroid | thinkpad* |
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| 02:00.27 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: you certainly don't need to install the AMD proprietary drivers before installing a GUI |
| 02:00.38 | el_inventor | abrotman: but I can not report it until you try how he does. |
| 02:00.47 | JHoughtelin | el_inventor: Like abrotman said, I'm not sure this has anything to do with Debian. Sounds like you need some help with general security concerns. ##Security maybe? |
| 02:01.24 | el_inventor | excuse my English, I'm using GoogleTranslate. : ( |
| 02:01.46 | _unreal_ | heh I dont want to install a gui if I dont have to |
| 02:01.57 | _unreal_ | the computer is to be used as a DATA/MEDIA server |
| 02:02.38 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: why do you need video drivers at all then? |
| 02:02.59 | _unreal_ | to use the video cards hardware GPGPU |
| 02:03.30 | el_inventor | Yes, I wanted to know if I could do it from my computer (using debian wheezy) |
| 02:04.36 | _unreal_ | jmcnaught, I can use the video card for hardware accelerated media conversion and other uses |
| 02:06.00 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: on wheezy to do this you'll probably need the fglrx-driver, hardware acceleration is a fairly new feature for the radeon driver and it's not there in the version that wheezy includes |
| 02:06.51 | _unreal_ | are you talking about the propriatary or non proprietary? |
| 02:07.02 | meek_geek | its free or non-free |
| 02:07.34 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: radeon is the free driver, fglrx is the proprietary one |
| 02:08.13 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: but if you're going to install the proprietary driver, follow the instructions on the wiki for doing it the proper way with Debian packages from non-free |
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| 02:08.40 | abrotman | el_inventor: try #networking |
| 02:08.48 | _unreal_ | following |
| 02:09.12 | meek_geek | amd's non-free drivers makes no difference |
| 02:09.19 | meek_geek | keep the opensource one only |
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| 02:12.20 | KM0201 | why is it when using the 7.0 netinst... i have 3 hard drives, the OS installed on /dev/sdc... when it tries to install grub, i choose "yes" and it automatically goes to /dev/sda if i choose no, and designate /dev/sdc it fails. |
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| 02:13.14 | KM0201 | just seems like a major flaw in the installer, that really unless you put grub on /sda.. it seems to fail |
| 02:15.36 | dvs | KM0201: What "fails"? Installing GRUB or trying to run GRUB? |
| 02:15.51 | KM0201 | dvs: installing grub |
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| 02:18.42 | lozenge | hey, recently my jessie thinkpad t61 is telling me "no network devices available" but yet i am connected to the wifi network i had saved in the manager |
| 02:18.58 | lozenge | i can use the internet but im being told there is no network device |
| 02:20.10 | lozenge | any ideas? i cant find anything useful on google |
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| 02:20.36 | KM0201 | thats a little odd.. |
| 02:20.57 | KM0201 | dvs: any ideas? |
| 02:21.16 | KM0201 | i've read somme bug reports on this from '12... i can't believe the debian team considers this acceptable |
| 02:21.22 | dvs | KM0201: nope. When I install GRUB on another drive, it works for me. |
| 02:21.55 | KM0201 | i dunno, it's failed on me multiple times |
| 02:22.40 | _unreal_ | KM0201, I had the same issue |
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| 02:22.51 | KM0201 | _unreal_: well, at least i know i'm not crazy |
| 02:23.02 | _unreal_ | I had to remove all HD's except for the one I was installing to get it to install grub correctly |
| 02:23.17 | KM0201 | _unreal_: yeah... but.. that's kind of a ridiculous solution, don't you think? |
| 02:23.24 | _unreal_ | annoying yes |
| 02:23.33 | KM0201 | i'd say that's well beyond annoying |
| 02:24.17 | _unreal_ | I have an ati to CF adapter with a 16GB card in it. that will be my main install when I finish . I'll image it from the hd that I'm currently installing with |
| 02:24.25 | _unreal_ | ati heh |
| 02:24.32 | _unreal_ | ide |
| 02:24.55 | KM0201 | you don't think the amount of disk writing debian does will not nuke that cf card in no time flat? |
| 02:25.15 | _unreal_ | why would it...... swap will be on a HD |
| 02:25.40 | _unreal_ | and this will be a read only system |
| 02:25.53 | KM0201 | oh well its read only, then you're good. |
| 02:26.15 | KM0201 | and swap really doesn't matter |
| 02:26.30 | KM0201 | there's still a significant amount of disk writing that debian does to disk (logs, etc..) |
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| 02:27.06 | _unreal_ | I'm brand new to debian. been and still am a fedora user. but I'm doing a debian media server setup |
| 02:27.24 | KM0201 | _unreal_: you should look at OpenMediaVault |
| 02:27.29 | KM0201 | i personally love it |
| 02:27.38 | _unreal_ | open meia vault? |
| 02:27.48 | KM0201 | think FreeNas.. but based on Debian |
| 02:28.12 | KM0201 | there's an online demo at http://www.openmediavault.org |
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| 02:28.40 | abrotman | dpkg_: tell leni1 about root |
| 02:28.48 | abrotman | dpkg: tell leni1 about root |
| 02:28.51 | abrotman | damn bot |
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| 02:31.24 | _unreal_ | heh |
| 02:32.01 | spacebison | lozenge: That is a bit odd. It is "testing" though. Did you have the same problem with Wheezy? |
| 02:32.20 | lozenge | spacebison nope |
| 02:32.32 | lozenge | im gonna switch over to wicd and see if that helps |
| 02:33.04 | lozenge | http://s16.postimg.org/vi3xvafat/wtf.png |
| 02:33.09 | lozenge | thats what im looking at. strange |
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| 02:34.30 | abrotman | check your interfaces file |
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| 02:43.53 | bilgillz | How can I delete packages that didn't fully install |
| 02:44.10 | dvs | apt-get -f install |
| 02:44.12 | KM0201 | bilgillz: i would think apt-get autoremove should do it |
| 02:44.58 | _unreal_ | oook I followed the direction and when I enter: aticonfig --initial |
| 02:45.13 | _unreal_ | I get no supported adapters as a responce |
| 02:45.17 | bilgillz | And it's because I randomly get dependencies errors from dpkg? Is there a way to reinstall dpkg? |
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| 02:45.47 | _unreal_ | apt-get remove dpkg then apt-get install dpkg :) |
| 02:45.53 | _unreal_ | and update |
| 02:46.09 | KM0201 | why do you think the problem i sdpkg? what version of debian are you using? |
| 02:46.20 | KM0201 | sounds like you just have a broken package, in which case... apt-get autoremove will work fine |
| 02:46.50 | _unreal_ | KM0201, I followed this https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 02:47.21 | bilgillz | I'm using debian 7 but I didn't think it's working correct.. I'm going to try that thank I |
| 02:47.48 | bilgillz | And I'm having problem installing xorg ? That was my main problem |
| 02:48.18 | KM0201 | _unreal_: i thought you were building a media server? why doo you need the ATI driver? |
| 02:48.30 | _unreal_ | bilgillz, did you type: apt-get install xorg |
| 02:48.48 | _unreal_ | for things that I can off load onto the video card |
| 02:49.04 | bilgillz | Yeah then I got a dpkg error and a few files didn't unpack |
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| 02:49.26 | _unreal_ | hum.... |
| 02:49.36 | _unreal_ | have you run update recently? |
| 02:49.58 | bilgillz | I try to correct with apt-get install -f |
| 02:50.09 | bilgillz | But then I get a dpkg error doing that |
| 02:50.19 | _unreal_ | bilgillz, dont force first try making your up to date |
| 02:50.36 | bilgillz | Yes I update frequently |
| 02:50.50 | _unreal_ | ok how about aptitude update? |
| 02:51.01 | bilgillz | Yes |
| 02:51.22 | KM0201 | aptitude update isn't going to change anything that apt-get isbn't doing |
| 02:51.35 | _unreal_ | ok.... then the next step would be to do a remove apt-get remove "installed progra" |
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| 02:52.08 | _unreal_ | and try to re-install it |
| 02:52.12 | KM0201 | thus my suggestion that "autoremove"... will remove anything not being used any longer (including broken packages) |
| 02:52.50 | bilgillz | Ok thank you for this I'm going to try these suggestions |
| 02:53.15 | KM0201 | i woul ddo apt-get -f install as an absolute last resort |
| 02:54.10 | _unreal_ | KM0201, while he's futzing with that back to solving my video issue |
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| 02:54.29 | bilgillz | I tried removing what I had for xorg and dpkg and now I'm frozen? |
| 02:54.32 | _unreal_ | so I followed https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary this but I still dont have a working video card |
| 02:54.44 | KM0201 | _unreal_: i wish i could give yo uan answer... i've never installed a video driver on a media server.. ever |
| 02:54.46 | _unreal_ | bilgillz, are you in GUI? |
| 02:54.56 | bilgillz | Yes |
| 02:54.59 | _unreal_ | LOL |
| 02:55.14 | bilgillz | ? |
| 02:55.15 | _unreal_ | yes its going to freeze xorg is part of your gui |
| 02:55.26 | _unreal_ | xwindows |
| 02:55.28 | KM0201 | bilgillz: it actually let you remove xorg while running a gui? |
| 02:55.29 | _unreal_ | ugh |
| 02:55.29 | KM0201 | thats amazing |
| 02:55.39 | _unreal_ | are you sshed? |
| 02:55.40 | bilgillz | Oh ok well wow.. |
| 02:55.58 | _unreal_ | or did you switch to a different console window? |
| 02:56.13 | bilgillz | I have no desktop environment or manager |
| 02:56.21 | _unreal_ | YA CAUSE YOU REMOVED IT |
| 02:56.29 | bilgillz | It boots in console |
| 02:56.32 | _unreal_ | alt+f2-f6 |
| 02:56.44 | _unreal_ | ahh so you have console, do you have network? |
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| 02:57.19 | bilgillz | Yes |
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| 02:57.40 | _unreal_ | ok then apt-get install xorg dpkg |
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| 02:57.55 | bilgillz | Lol how do I get out of console? |
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| 02:58.01 | _unreal_ | you dont |
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| 02:58.07 | _unreal_ | you removed gui |
| 02:58.09 | bilgillz | It's booting in console now |
| 02:58.10 | NiLon | install dpkg, now what you people have done :D |
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| 02:58.37 | _unreal_ | NiLon, read up LOL |
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| 02:58.53 | bilgillz | Lol... Wow.. Poop |
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| 02:59.19 | _unreal_ | is it re-installing? |
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| 02:59.52 | NiLon | _unreal_ well it sounds like recovering from major f.. up :D |
| 03:01.00 | _unreal_ | NiLon, do you know much about installing ati drivers? |
| 03:01.12 | jidm | hi. dumb question: in iceweasel, if i open a 'normal' window and a 'private' window, both look equal... how can i tell which is which? |
| 03:02.04 | _unreal_ | one of them should have a Lock icon???? |
| 03:02.21 | NiLon | there should be purple mask (or somekind icon) on top |
| 03:02.49 | _unreal_ | NiLon, any input? |
| 03:02.58 | jidm | _unreal_: not here, both look the same... :( |
| 03:03.21 | _unreal_ | jidm, google |
| 03:03.56 | jidm | this is iceweasel 30, debian testing. I remember seeing the purple mask in the past, but is not here now :( |
| 03:04.16 | NiLon | _unreal_ I guess google will offer the most help, not open drivers for ati so it's bit a mess |
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| 03:05.10 | meek_geek | how can we check the apps we have installed from backports / |
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| 03:05.57 | bilgillz | Ok now it keeps saying segmentation faulty tree ... 50% |
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| 03:08.58 | bilgillz | Yeah nothing's working |
| 03:09.15 | TJ- | bilgillz: Have you done a memtest ? |
| 03:09.49 | _unreal_ | eh eh ehe he eh removed xorg while in X heheheh |
| 03:10.24 | _unreal_ | segmentation fault |
| 03:10.33 | bilgillz | Hey lol how can I fix now |
| 03:11.03 | bilgillz | Do I gotta reinstall debian lol |
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| 03:11.16 | _unreal_ | um |
| 03:11.26 | _unreal_ | have you been getting segfaults? |
| 03:11.29 | _unreal_ | all along? |
| 03:11.38 | bilgillz | No |
| 03:11.44 | bilgillz | Just now |
| 03:11.54 | _unreal_ | hum |
| 03:12.03 | jidm | oh there he is the purple mask... i dunno why it was missing.. just reloaded iceweasel and came back there. thanks _unreal_ |
| 03:12.10 | bilgillz | But I was getting dpkg errors all along |
| 03:12.17 | jidm | and sorry |
| 03:12.28 | _unreal_ | well thats indicating a data error, could be memory could be harddrive |
| 03:12.40 | _unreal_ | jidm, good to hear its working |
| 03:13.01 | bilgillz | Any suggestions? |
| 03:13.28 | _unreal_ | is this an old install on a system or a new install? |
| 03:13.40 | bilgillz | Throw the computer away? |
| 03:13.49 | bilgillz | It's a new install |
| 03:14.07 | pksadiq | bilgillz: which (all) )package(s)) did you try to uninstall? |
| 03:14.17 | NiLon | bilgillz do the memtest like suggested earlier |
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| 03:14.37 | bilgillz | How to do this |
| 03:14.51 | NiLon | http://www.memtest86.com/ |
| 03:14.52 | b4tm4n | normally when debian boots it shows the version on the login window. however that recently disappeared as did every boot menu except the default - any thoughts on what happened? |
| 03:15.02 | jidm | _unreal_: i know more now why.. i am trying to launch "iceweasel --private" from cli and no mask if i do that. must investigate further |
| 03:15.29 | _unreal_ | if your going to do a memory test, I would first turn off the computer. and remove/reinstall the memory. always a good thing to ensure proper seating of the memory. then do a memtest86 |
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| 03:15.33 | NiLon | note that memtest will take hours to run |
| 03:15.56 | LtL | bilgillz: apt-cache search memtest |
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| 03:16.37 | bilgillz | That gave me segmentation fault |
| 03:16.47 | bilgillz | I'm going to reinstall... |
| 03:17.00 | _unreal_ | I dont think he has a memory issue, I think he is having a data integrity issue. or a new debian linux user errors causing the issue he is having currently |
| 03:17.25 | bilgillz | Lol... |
| 03:17.53 | pksadiq | bilgillz: could you try aptitude instead of apt-get? may be your apt could have some problem |
| 03:18.12 | _unreal_ | bilgillz, if your going to re-install, turn off the computer and un plug mem, hd cables etc... and plug them back in. just incase you have a bad connection somwhere, I dont know what other things you may have done to the computer that may have caused the issue your dealing with. |
| 03:18.29 | _unreal_ | but its always good to start with a clean slate. |
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| 03:18.42 | bilgillz | Yeah ima try aptitude |
| 03:19.29 | bilgillz | No cigar.. |
| 03:20.45 | jidm | ok the proper command was "iceweasel --private-window" that was it |
| 03:20.56 | jidm | thanx bb |
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| 03:22.48 | Akuw | is possible to find a mac address of pc ? |
| 03:23.10 | _unreal_ | ?yes... |
| 03:23.15 | NiLon | pc's don't have mac addresses :P |
| 03:23.38 | _unreal_ | NiLon, if they have embeded lans they do |
| 03:23.54 | _unreal_ | Akuw, what are you trying to do exactly |
| 03:24.49 | Akuw | my laptop was robered man |
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| 03:25.13 | NiLon | then mac isn't really doing good for you unless it can ping home |
| 03:25.45 | _unreal_ | ? meaning it was stolen? |
| 03:26.29 | NiLon | I wonder why laptops/tablets don't have gps chip built-in for tracking purposes :p |
| 03:27.01 | NiLon | well cost is clearly first factor there |
| 03:27.19 | NiLon | but imo paying 10 euros for such protection would be more than welcome |
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| 03:28.39 | Akuw | then no possible? |
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| 03:30.23 | NiLon | unless it does connect to known server or does somekind syncing etc, then no, it's not really possible |
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| 03:31.03 | NiLon | you could scan every computer in this planet but that is not going to be very practical |
| 03:31.30 | _unreal_ | Akuw, is the laptop protected or can someone just boot it up connect to a wifi and get online |
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| 03:31.53 | Akuw | is password protected |
| 03:32.16 | _unreal_ | if there are any services like facebook or other things. you coulld see if there has been any access to services and find out what the ip/mac address was at the time. chich means you may be able to track down the location |
| 03:33.18 | _unreal_ | then there is prob not much any one can do as far as tracking it with out tracking software |
| 03:33.38 | _unreal_ | unless there are any auto services that will connect regardless of logging it. |
| 03:33.47 | _unreal_ | thats your only hope to my knowlage |
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| 03:35.54 | NiLon | and even if you have ip it's going to be very iffy to get anything useful out of it |
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| 03:38.19 | Akuw | damm, is the tablet of my daugther |
| 03:38.25 | Akuw | she is very sad |
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| 03:41.24 | _unreal_ | again with out tracking software or the ablity to know of programs that auto log in. its hard to track. |
| 03:41.54 | _unreal_ | hate to say it but, she's going to have to keep a better eye on her stuff..... |
| 03:42.14 | _unreal_ | heh I dont let my daughter out of my sight when she uses her nabi tablet :) |
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| 03:43.24 | Akuw | i told the same |
| 03:43.36 | Akuw | but is hard to see his face sad |
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| 03:44.02 | _unreal_ | hard lesson. I've had stuff stolen from me as well. |
| 03:44.02 | Akuw | the good thing is she is now interested in security :) |
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| 03:44.17 | _unreal_ | like a LOCK heh |
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| 03:44.54 | exprtlynx | Excuse me fellow debian enthusiasts I'm havering trouble installing wheezy 7 on my computer |
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| 03:45.46 | jinppk | When setting up servers, do you ususaly assign the if staticaly from the dhcp server by mac address? or just hard code the ip in the /etc/networks/interfaces file? or both or neither? |
| 03:45.59 | jinppk | do you -> does one* |
| 03:46.26 | Akuw | exprtlynx: what problem? |
| 03:46.55 | exprtlynx | I can't get things to begin installing unless I violently shake my computer is anyone else experiencing this problem |
| 03:47.25 | thingfish | that's a feature |
| 03:47.33 | exprtlynx | And a few times it takes a good kick for things to begin installing |
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| 03:50.10 | rryoumaa | why are you trying to install debian on a coke machine? |
| 03:50.32 | LtL | roflmao |
| 03:50.39 | exprtlynx | Thought it might spit out alcohol |
| 03:51.02 | c|AFK|uego | jinppk: I'd like to be able to get at my servers if someone breaks the dhcp server |
| 03:51.24 | phy1729 | rryoumaa: where? |
| 03:51.48 | exprtlynx | Hey anyone got working debian on android phone? |
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| 03:54.39 | Akuw | is a hardware problem man |
| 03:54.47 | Akuw | check you CD/DVD |
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| 04:29.19 | k_sze[work] | Our server has both postgresql 8.4 and 9.1 running. Somehow, there is only one 'postgresql' service listed when I do `service --status-all`. How do I tell which version it corresponds to? |
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| 04:31.17 | alje | I am trying to boot a separate distro, problem is that its root fs is btrfs but it has btrfs-tools installed |
| 04:31.33 | alje | is it possible to install it *into* it from a separate distro or possible to install from setup/rescue? |
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| 04:32.31 | k_sze[work] | ah, nvm, so the postgresql service can take an extra version argument. |
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| 05:10.13 | fishiy_things | hey guys. is emacs-24 not available through the apt? |
| 05:11.11 | fishiy_things | through apt* |
| 05:12.16 | rryoumaa | fishiy_things: it is not in wheezy |
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| 05:12.25 | rryoumaa | some people are working on backports |
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| 05:12.40 | rryoumaa | emacs23 |
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| 05:12.49 | fishiy_things | rryoumaa: yes, i have emacs23 installed right now |
| 05:13.06 | fishiy_things | is that a big deal? i noticed that emacs24 has some nice things pre-included like a package manager |
| 05:13.29 | fishiy_things | if i want to install emacs24, how can i go about that? |
| 05:13.30 | rryoumaa | dunno the status of the backports. 23 is usable. |
| 05:13.50 | rryoumaa | you can backport it yourself, build from scratch and never mind backporting, or get it from naquadah |
| 05:14.17 | jmcnaught | judd: versions emacs24 |
| 05:14.18 | judd | Package: emacs24 on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 24.3+1-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 24.3+1-4+b1; sid: 24.3+1-4+b1 |
| 05:14.42 | rryoumaa | or do what i do which is not use 24 until the backport is available |
| 05:15.02 | rryoumaa | no amd64? |
| 05:15.09 | fishiy_things | rryoumaa: why is backporting necessary? |
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| 05:15.25 | fishiy_things | rryoumaa: do you use emacs too? |
| 05:15.37 | rryoumaa | yes. go to #emacs for further discussion, maybe. |
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| 05:16.07 | rryoumaa | backporting isn't necessary, but it makes apt understand your package |
| 05:16.13 | fishiy_things | ahhh |
| 05:16.14 | jmcnaught | fishiy_things: emacs24 is available in wheezy-backports, see http://backports.debian.org/ |
| 05:16.46 | rryoumaa | jmcnaught: how come aptitude search '?name(emacs24)~not(~Ajessie)' shows nothing for me? is the syntax incorrect? |
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| 05:19.28 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: do you have jessie in your sources? "aptitude -F "%p %V %t" search emacs24" shows the packages for me |
| 05:20.17 | rryoumaa | jmcnaught: shows tehm in backports? |
| 05:20.28 | rryoumaa | not for me |
| 05:21.45 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: that could be related to having jessie in your sources. "apt-cache policy emacs24" is any of them from backports? Are you updated? |
| 05:22.42 | rryoumaa | i have jessie in my sources, but only so i know about the existence of jessie packages. i do not install them. policy shows emacs24 in jessie only. |
| 05:23.26 | rryoumaa | i have pin-priority of -1 for testing |
| 05:24.14 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: even with pinning it will probably end in tears. https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/emacs24 |
| 05:25.14 | rryoumaa | i know that it is very recent in backports, maybe a mirroring thing? i will try removing jessie |
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| 05:26.15 | rryoumaa | with no jessie, your command works, but "aptitude search '?name(emacs24)~not(~Ajessie)'" still does not produce any output |
| 05:26.36 | fishiy_things | jmcnaught: when i try to install emacs24 through apt, after adding the wheezy backports repository in sources.list, apt says it cannot install stuff because there are unmet dependencies -- there is a package it can't install |
| 05:26.51 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. Is this the right place to ask about Debian Live? It won't load the rootfs from TFTP on one of my systems yet works fine on another, both VMs, different hypervisor. |
| 05:27.01 | fishiy_things | jmcnaught: when i try to install that package, then that package turns out to depend on three other packages that apt cannot install |
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| 05:27.29 | fishiy_things | jmcnaught: so...this is quickly becoming messy and not very nice, so i am clearly not doing something right. do you know what i could do to troubleshoot? |
| 05:27.41 | jmcnaught | !bat |
| 05:27.41 | dpkg_ | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 05:28.06 | fishiy_things | jmcnaught: okay, let me do that, brb |
| 05:29.01 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: the ~ before not should be a ? |
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| 05:30.36 | fishy_things | !bat |
| 05:30.37 | dpkg_ | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 05:30.38 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: if you don't install packages, why track jessie at all? If you just want to track jessie for curiosity without installing, it would make more sense to do that in a chroot or something |
| 05:30.50 | jmcnaught | dpkg_: tell fishy_things about selftell |
| 05:31.16 | rryoumaa | jmcnaught: yes, your syntax fix is correct. thanks. |
| 05:32.01 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: it didn't tell me about selftell! |
| 05:32.05 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: hmmm... not sure if the "tell" command is working on the bot tonight. but you can "/msg dpkg_ bat" for example if you want to ask it something instead of doing it in the channel |
| 05:32.07 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: also, http://paste.debian.net/113741/ |
| 05:32.17 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: got it, i'll do that! |
| 05:32.18 | rryoumaa | jmcnaught: i want to know about new packages by just running aptitude. i figure pinning was designed to be able to do things like this. in other news, strangely, i added jessie back to sources.list, and apt-cache policy now works properly. |
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| 05:33.31 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: your paste doesn't show the command that you typed, was it "apt-get install -t wheezy-backports emacs24"? |
| 05:34.11 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: ugh, i am not paying attention. no, it was "apt-get install emacs24" |
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| 05:34.37 | rryoumaa | sounds like you have jessie there too? :) |
| 05:34.42 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: that still sounds like a bad idea to me, setting up a chroot with debootstrap is pretty easy |
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| 05:35.17 | rryoumaa | jmcnaught: ugh, now i have to learn that. i also want to keep the possibility of installing a jessie package that has no dependencies, however. |
| 05:35.35 | rryoumaa | (yes, i realize that's considered harmful) |
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| 05:36.02 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: if it has no dependencies it should be possible to backport it, which is also easier than it sounds if you've never done it |
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| 05:36.23 | rryoumaa | hmm |
| 05:37.28 | rryoumaa | even if it is more straightforward than it sounds, chroot with debootstrap means i have to keep 5gb of data aroudn though right? |
| 05:37.56 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: message the bot "ssb" for simple backport instructions. https://wiki.debian.org/Schroot can get you started with a decent chroot |
| 05:38.16 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: here's the complete paste: http://paste.debian.net/113742/ |
| 05:38.53 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: my jessie chroot started at around 900 MB but is 1.3 GB now after installing some X applications |
| 05:39.28 | rryoumaa | what can you do with a chroot? |
| 05:39.46 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: i noticed that the command you suggested works - but i don't understand why. |
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| 05:40.41 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: -t specifies which repository you want to use, so when i don't specify a repository, why did apt have installation issues? |
| 05:40.54 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: "-t wheezy-backports" to target the release from backports, it explains it on http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ and in "man apt-get" in more detail |
| 05:41.51 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: thank you for your help and patience, i' |
| 05:41.53 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: oh, emacs24 is only available from backports so apt figured that out on its own, but the packages needs new versions of packages that already had versions in wheezy, so you had to specify |
| 05:42.06 | rryoumaa | fishy_things: you will also want the -el version of emacs24, and you also want the info packages, but those are in jessie, so you will have to backport those, if you go with jmcnaught's suggestion, i think. or be a badass frankenstein and install those probably-dependency-less packages. :) |
| 05:42.08 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: ahhh! |
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| 05:42.37 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: you can run stuff in a chroot, even X applications |
| 05:42.41 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: -el version of emacs24? |
| 05:43.38 | rryoumaa | jmcnaught: at the same time as running regular debian? silly question i'm sure. |
| 05:43.54 | rryoumaa | fishy_things: the elisp sources. most people want them. |
| 05:44.46 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: at the same time, look up chroots if you don't believe me :) There are also containers like LXC provide a little more isolation |
| 05:45.04 | rryoumaa | jmcnaught: so you're telling fishy_things that emacs24 needed new versions of packages that already have versions in wheezy, but can be told to use wheezy-backports versions of same? |
| 05:45.15 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: and the info packages are not already backported? |
| 05:45.21 | punkgeek | any body can help me how to set domain dns on apache? |
| 05:45.32 | rryoumaa | fishy_things: dunno, looks like they are not |
| 05:45.39 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: confusing. |
| 05:45.48 | rryoumaa | and i recall the backporter saying so a few days ago in #emacs |
| 05:46.03 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: why would those not be backported? |
| 05:46.09 | rryoumaa | the gnu info packages are, believe it or not, considered not free enough by debian :) |
| 05:46.22 | rryoumaa | and so they are separate and i think did not get backported |
| 05:46.22 | fishy_things | -_- |
| 05:46.27 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: type "apt-cache search emacs24" for a list of emacs24 packages available to install, the emacs24-el package should be there |
| 05:46.39 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: yes, i was able to install that :) |
| 05:47.01 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: how important are the info packages? i am a total linux/emacs newbie, as i only recently have had to start learning |
| 05:48.10 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: what about the emacs24-common-non-dfsg package? |
| 05:48.30 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: "This package includes the core Emacs documentation: the Emacs Info pages, the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, and the Emacs Lisp Intro. " |
| 05:48.32 | rryoumaa | that is those. they are the documentation. you can get them online also, if you need to. |
| 05:48.53 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: you might need the manuals if you're just learning :) |
| 05:48.58 | rryoumaa | you want them, so you are stuck with learning backporting, being a badass, or reading them online. or a chroot. :) |
| 05:49.06 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: those are available in the standard repositories though, you don't need to backport them |
| 05:49.22 | rryoumaa | fishy_things: not in wheezy, i don't think? |
| 05:49.28 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: what are you talking about, all of the packages that fishy_things are in wheezy or backports |
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| 05:50.02 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: yes, jmcnaught is right |
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| 05:50.15 | rryoumaa | jmcnaught: your script says "emacs24-common-non-dfsg <none> " |
| 05:50.27 | rryoumaa | then it must be me |
| 05:51.30 | rryoumaa | but removing jessie from sources.list still produces that |
| 05:51.36 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: that package is showing up in every search i do for "emacs24", it's in wheezy non-free |
| 05:51.37 | punkgeek | no body help me? |
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| 05:51.47 | rryoumaa | oh, i have to add non-free for it to work |
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| 05:51.54 | rryoumaa | i was reluctant to do that |
| 05:51.57 | jmcnaught | punkgeek: did you ask a question? |
| 05:52.09 | punkgeek | yes, any body can help me how to set domain dns on apache? |
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| 05:52.11 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: yes! i didn't realize that, but that's something i had done |
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| 05:52.22 | fishy_things | rryoumaa: added the non-free repository. why are you unwilling to do that? |
| 05:52.30 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: you should probably be more reluctant to have jessie in your sources too :) |
| 05:52.39 | rryoumaa | i do not want "real" non-free to creep in |
| 05:52.55 | fishy_things | ohh |
| 05:53.05 | rryoumaa | well, it would be best if i could pin both jessie and * non-free i guess if and only if that worked |
| 05:53.13 | rryoumaa | (to -1) |
| 05:53.20 | jmcnaught | dselect: tell punkgeek about ask |
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| 05:53.40 | punkgeek | can i settings ns on apache? |
| 05:53.46 | punkgeek | setup* |
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| 05:54.17 | rryoumaa | how does one keep up with personal backports? you'd have to backport every time there is an update. |
| 05:54.20 | jmcnaught | punkgeek: apache is a web server not a name server. what are you trying to do? |
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| 05:55.15 | jmcnaught | rryoumaa: yeah, that's a pretty strong incentive to doing as much as you can with the versions available in stable. The more you stray from stable, the more work you're committing your future self to |
| 05:55.33 | punkgeek | i need set domain on my ip but idont know how to setup dns on linux |
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| 05:56.14 | rryoumaa | one problem i have is i prefer using debian packages to downloaded firefox extensions. but the mozilla debian repo does not have extensions. and i don't want to stick with wheezy iceweasel. |
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| 05:58.55 | jmcnaught | punkgeek: try and explain it in as much detail as you can. If you have a domain registered, where ever you got it is probably the best place to ask how to get it to point to a particular IP |
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| 06:01.33 | fishy_things | jmcnaught, rryoumaa: is unstable really very unstable? |
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| 06:02.11 | fishy_things | jmcnaught, rryoumaa: or should i just switch to unstable rather than stable if i need a few "backported" packages? |
| 06:02.43 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: as a self-admitted newb you should be using Debian Stable while you learn, and even after that if you want a computer that works everyday without having to fix it |
| 06:03.19 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: you don't switch to unstable if you need a few backported packages. If they're not already available in wheezy-backports, you can try to backport them yourself |
| 06:03.30 | jmcnaught | dselect: tell fishy_things about ssb |
| 06:03.42 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: got it, that is good enough incentive. so what rryoumaa was saying is that now that i have installed emacs24, i have to manually update it every time? |
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| 06:04.41 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: not sure i understood that part of the discussion, so just asking for clarification: "how does one keep up with personal backports? you'd have to backport every time there is an update." |
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| 06:04.54 | jmcnaught | fishy_things: stuff you install from wheezy-backports will get updates if they are available. What rryoumaa was talking about is if you backport the packages yourself. |
| 06:05.08 | fishy_things | jmcnaught: ahhh, hence "personal backports", okay. |
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| 06:32.35 | engblom` | I am in big trouble: A recent upgrade breaks grub. So far 3 computers have had this issue. I know how to fix the problem (chroot from a live-cd and grub-install /dev/sda). However, I am administrating 100+ debian computers and I would need a fix before this happens to them. I do not want to boot all of them with a live-cd. |
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| 06:33.37 | engblom` | They all have salt-stack installed, so I could fix any problem as long as I know where the problem is. |
| 06:33.55 | engblom` | The problem is in wheezy. |
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| 06:42.04 | jmcnaught | engblom`: some more information about what's going wrong might be needed to help you figure out a way to prevent it form happening |
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| 06:44.37 | engblom` | jmcnaught: I wish I would have some information on where it goes wrong... These computers are having unattended upgrades configured and they have all been nicely upgrading until now. Luckily most of those computers are not in use at this moment as they are the property of some schools. I hoped this would be a known issue... |
| 06:45.04 | engblom` | The school begins next week, so I would need to sort this out very soon. |
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| 06:46.30 | engblom` | Grub is starting up without the menu, with some kind of debug mode |
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| 06:47.44 | engblom` | Grub is installed in mbr and / is xfs (/dev/sda1) |
| 06:48.24 | ag4ve | how do i ping (or traceroute or whatever) from a specific interface/ip ? |
| 06:50.07 | ag4ve | nm, apparently -I does it.... |
| 06:50.09 | jmcnaught | engblom`: have you changed anything in /etc/default/grub? |
| 06:51.22 | engblom` | jmcnaught: Nope. Nothing is changed there. |
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| 06:52.59 | Kira | Packages in debian can have subpackages? |
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| 06:54.12 | Kira | I was trying to find where the file '/usr/lib/libpq.so.5.4' comes from. So `dpkg -S /usr/lib/libpq.so.5.4` tells me it's from libpq5, and then `dpkg -s libpq5` lists a 'Source: postgresql-9.1'. |
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| 06:54.53 | Kira | So libpq5 is a *subpackage* of postgresql-9.1? |
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| 07:02.11 | themill | Kira: think of a source package as a tarball that you'd download and compile. The output of the compilation is normally split up amongst different binary packages (.debs) because you probably don't want the client and the server on the same machine. Or you might want the client library but not the qt bindings or the cli version etc. |
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| 07:05.00 | Kira | So the 'postgresql-9.1' in this case refers to the source tarball that would be downloaded if I wanted to compile from source, not to a binary 'postgresql-9.1' .deb package? |
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| 07:05.12 | themill | yes |
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| 07:07.00 | themill | Kira: if you "apt-cache showsrc postgresql-9.1" and look at the Binary field, you'll see a list of all the different binary packages that come out of that source package. One of those binary packages also happens to be called 'postgresql-9.1' but that isn't required. |
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| 07:07.28 | Kira | I see. Thanks for the clarification. |
| 07:08.22 | themill | (there are plenty of source packages that don't build binary packages with the same name as themselves and, confusingly, there are even source packages that build binary packages with the same name as a different source package) |
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| 07:09.56 | Kira | ouch |
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| 07:19.29 | anton02 | https://i.4cdn.org/g/1407215345698.png |
| 07:19.30 | idioterna | mirrored (NSFW): http://bou.si/4c/1407215345698.png |
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| 07:26.48 | OpenTokix | hmm, that image has nothing to do with that quote. |
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| 07:38.59 | KM0201 | OpenTokix: true... but.. for all the good things Stallman does for free software and GNU/Linux.. he is kind of an oddball. |
| 07:39.05 | KM0201 | (by normmal standards) |
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| 07:41.27 | OpenTokix | KM0201: kind of... - he is the oddball |
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| 07:57.54 | `ajven | Hi, how i can display full list of repo ? |
| 07:58.18 | DoverMo | omg. stupid lxde shutdown + restart buttons don't work. polkit is running and i edited consolekit files and still nothing |
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| 07:59.45 | `ajven | anyone ;-) ? |
| 07:59.55 | DoverMo | `ajven, there's some file |
| 07:59.57 | DoverMo | somewhere |
| 08:00.34 | `ajven | its /etc/apt/source.list but its not full repo list |
| 08:00.48 | DoverMo | yeah |
| 08:01.07 | DoverMo | `ajven, did you enable 32bit? or more |
| 08:01.23 | `ajven | o_O ? |
| 08:01.28 | `ajven | im not sure abou what you ask |
| 08:01.31 | NCS_One | hi |
| 08:02.06 | KM0201 | there might be additional sources ilsts in /etc/apt/sources.lists.d/ |
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| 08:02.31 | KM0201 | if you've followed some "cut and paste" instructions, it's possible it did not add the repo to /sources.list |
| 08:02.55 | `ajven | ye i was add repo for teamviewer |
| 08:03.00 | `ajven | want to remove it for now |
| 08:03.17 | `ajven | but i dont see it inside /etc/apt/sources.lists.d/ |
| 08:03.27 | KM0201 | well, it's gotta be somewhere. |
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| 08:03.45 | KM0201 | why did you use a repo for teamviewer?.. just download the most recent .deb |
| 08:04.12 | somiaj | `ajven: apt-cache policy |
| 08:04.27 | somiaj | `ajven: though be careful with third party repos, they could not be compadable with the version of debian you are running. |
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| 08:04.53 | `ajven | thanks for advice its first time im using debian, was using arch before |
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| 08:05.19 | NCS_One | I'm doing a small web server, I have 2 40GB HDDs what partition scheme you recommend? |
| 08:05.44 | KM0201 | `ajven: i'm looking at teamviewers homepage, and i don't even see a repo for teamviewre |
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| 08:06.08 | KM0201 | seems they recommmend downloading the .deb file (like i suggested) |
| 08:06.19 | KM0201 | where did you find this repo? |
| 08:06.21 | mepl | I am used to Navicat on Windows, now I am new to linux and I need a db browser. Any tips? |
| 08:07.06 | `ajven | i think about using source files |
| 08:07.07 | KM0201 | mepl: http://alternativeto.net/software/navicat/?platform=linux can't really offer a suggestion, but that might help |
| 08:07.10 | `ajven | and compile it myself |
| 08:07.13 | DoverMo | NCS_One, what ideas do you have? |
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| 08:07.59 | `ajven | there is some comand to print all repos added by add-apt-repository ? |
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| 08:08.34 | mepl | KM0201: my eyes... oracle! |
| 08:08.40 | KM0201 | lol |
| 08:08.51 | KM0201 | like i said, not a suggestion, that just came up on google |
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| 08:09.21 | KM0201 | oracle isn't all bad |
| 08:09.23 | KM0201 | i like vbox |
| 08:09.32 | `ajven | ye but stim vmware > vbox |
| 08:09.39 | KM0201 | that's a matter of opinion |
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| 08:09.43 | KM0201 | i personally disagree |
| 08:09.58 | `ajven | show me server in corporate who is using vbox lol |
| 08:09.58 | `ajven | ^^ |
| 08:10.11 | KM0201 | show me a dumbass who used some repo for teamviewer |
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| 08:10.13 | DoverMo | KM0201, any idea about lxde power buttons not working? reinstalled upower, acpi is installed, user added to sudo,adm,users. polkit running and consolekit installed |
| 08:10.14 | nido | `ajven: sure, follow me downstairs and i'll show it to you |
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| 08:10.17 | `ajven | there is no doubt vmware is much better |
| 08:10.28 | DoverMo | KM0201, and i'm not getting any complaints. just no action |
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| 08:10.50 | KM0201 | DoverMo: honestly, i i saw your question a few minutes ago, sorry i have no idea. |
| 08:10.55 | DoverMo | heh |
| 08:10.58 | `ajven | km0201 i see youre quite poor kid if you saying vbox is better than vmware than flame ppl ... im sorry i dont like talk with so poor intelectual kids, muted |
| 08:10.58 | bezaban | how does debian handle expiring DHCP leases when the DHCP server is down? |
| 08:11.07 | NCS_One | DoverMo: probably use LVM and give /var most of the space |
| 08:11.11 | nido | though i agree virtualbox isn't quite the solution for the server stuff. If you want to do that you might want to like at kvm instead |
| 08:11.12 | KM0201 | lol |
| 08:11.15 | mepl | so much rage here |
| 08:11.25 | KM0201 | i wish he'd just rage and make sense |
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| 08:11.32 | bezaban | ie. not able to do a renew. Will it drop the address or just keep it and keep sending requests? |
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| 08:11.54 | themill | DoverMo: so which release of debian is this? |
| 08:12.06 | DoverMo | themill, latest jessie |
| 08:12.07 | `ajven | i dont think its rage, just this kid dont know how to install anythink more than vbox so he will say vbox is best ... and if someone say vbox is low soft he will flame ... so typical |
| 08:12.13 | DoverMo | themill, lxde ofc |
| 08:12.29 | themill | DoverMo: /topic -- you |
| 08:12.42 | themill | you'll have better luck in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 08:12.58 | KM0201 | `ajven: lol.. i've done plenty of vmware installs... i have reasons for liking vbox (i mostly use virtualization at home)... like i said... youc an't even understand how to remove a repository, yet you want to insult me.lol. |
| 08:13.08 | DoverMo | themill, ok |
| 08:13.25 | KM0201 | what is debian going to do when it runs out of Toy Story characters? |
| 08:13.39 | themill | KM0201: that's not going to happen any time soon |
| 08:13.41 | nido | buy pixar and get them to make more characters |
| 08:13.51 | KM0201 | themill: yeah.. i'mm just thinking ahead |
| 08:13.53 | nido | there's always 'toy soldier #N' if it comes to that |
| 08:14.20 | KM0201 | boy that would be tedius |
| 08:14.21 | KM0201 | lol |
| 08:15.04 | KM0201 | yeah, i guess about that time if tim allen and tom hanks aren't dead, they'll have to do Toy Story 4 and add some new characters |
| 08:15.05 | nido | especially i they use random numbers for N instead of sequentially counting up |
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| 08:15.53 | KM0201 | what's gonna be after jessie? |
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| 08:16.43 | KM0201 | slinky? |
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| 08:17.33 | themill | We had slink back in 1999. |
| 08:17.46 | KM0201 | oh thats right |
| 08:17.52 | KM0201 | well hell, we might be getting close then |
| 08:18.12 | Kira | So I have both postgreqsl-client-8.4 and postgresql-client-9.1 installed. And also postgresql-client-common, which "provides a wrapper which selects the right version for the particular cluster you want to access (with a command line option, an environment variable, /etc/postgresql-common/user_clusters, or ~/.postgresqlrc)". |
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| 08:18.31 | Kira | But *what* commandn line option? |
| 08:18.43 | `ajven | can i use make option (while compile kernel) with -j9 option ? or it dont work on debian ? |
| 08:19.03 | NCS_One | KM0201, nido: maybe they will start with GRU, there will be alot minions :) |
| 08:19.07 | KM0201 | themill: i guess it depends on if you limit yourself to andy's toys.... and to episode 1. |
| 08:19.08 | `ajven | make -j9 && make_modules_install install ? |
| 08:19.28 | themill | KM0201: well we already don't do that. |
| 08:19.51 | KM0201 | which one wasn't in the first episode? |
| 08:19.55 | istram | `ajven: why not? |
| 08:20.08 | KM0201 | (obviously i'm not a toy story expert..lol) |
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| 08:20.18 | `ajven | becouse im not sure debian can work with -j9 so just asking :) |
| 08:20.36 | istram | `ajven: that's not a distro-dependent thing. |
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| 08:20.46 | istram | you're only telling make how many threads it can use |
| 08:20.52 | `ajven | try to make it on ubuntu / mint or other "pro" distro :) |
| 08:21.05 | `ajven | its not working there |
| 08:21.13 | `ajven | so i was wondering about doing it here |
| 08:21.16 | `ajven | anyway thanks :) |
| 08:21.22 | istram | `ajven: uhh. I did not had the chance to use *buntu yet. |
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| 08:21.35 | themill | KM0201: wheezy, jessie; sid. |
| 08:21.41 | `ajven | i got 1 ubuntu in job ... its unreal piece ....... |
| 08:21.52 | istram | `ajven: so you have 8 cores? * gets envious* |
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| 08:21.57 | KM0201 | themill: they weren't andy's toys? ( i know sid wasn't.. but that's to be expected, that's why it's unstable) |
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| 08:22.10 | `ajven | 4 cores + 4 virtual |
| 08:22.10 | themill | KM0201: they're TS2 |
| 08:22.17 | KM0201 | themill: oh ok.. gotcha./ |
| 08:22.44 | KM0201 | i just finished watching stir crazy..lol.. what a great movie... pryor and wilder were comedic geniuses |
| 08:23.15 | istram | `ajven: by the way, while you go installing the kernel, you should be able to use the make modules_install && make install if you have the kernel-wrapper installed. |
| 08:23.31 | istram | it'll do all the boring work for you. |
| 08:24.05 | somiaj | you can actually make a debian package form the upstream kernel source, though I forget the make target |
| 08:25.14 | istram | make dpkg? I've actually never used it as the debian packages work even if you don't have the kernel listed as a pkg |
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| 08:25.58 | factor_ | I am trying to upgrade a debian system but have u1 install of glibc how can I get it to apt-get upgrade, i have the cdrom mounted |
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| 08:27.10 | `ajven | just wondering, its possible to install pantheon shell on debian ? |
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| 08:28.37 | Kira | `ls -l $(which psql)` tells me its actually a symlink to /usr/share/postgresql-common/pg_wrapper. |
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| 08:29.08 | Kira | but if I try to execute the pg_wrapper, I get 'Error: pg_wrapper: invalid command name' (even if I supply the full path to pg_wrapper). |
| 08:29.10 | Kira | What's going on? |
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| 08:29.44 | themill | Kira: you're supposed to run it as "psql" not as pg_wrapper. |
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| 08:31.09 | Kira | it's really not very helpful. |
| 08:31.15 | Kira | I mean the pg_wrapper. |
| 08:31.23 | Kira | :q |
| 08:31.27 | themill | You might find "perldoc /usr/share/postgresql-common/pg_wrapper" instructive |
| 08:31.54 | themill | (or postgresql-common(7)) |
| 08:31.57 | Kira | yeah, it sucks that it doesn't expose that info via --help switch |
| 08:32.09 | Kira | you're left stranded unless you know perl. |
| 08:32.13 | themill | well it can't really unless it breaks the help option of the things it calls. |
| 08:32.15 | Kira | (like myself) |
| 08:32.28 | themill | so man 7 postgresql-common |
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| 08:33.08 | Kira | it could remap the --help of the targets via a proxy option, no? |
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| 08:33.36 | themill | then you'd complain that psql's --help was broken. |
| 08:34.13 | themill | boohoo debian changed things, look they even screwed up psql --help... I can see the rage on reddit already. |
| 08:36.21 | peetaur2 | Kira: many programs look at the argv or $0 to see what name was used to call it, and behave differently based on the value |
| 08:37.02 | themill | Kira: it would be entirely appropriate to report a wishlist bug suggesting that the package description contain "See postgresql-common(7) for details of how to use the wrapper." That would have been helpful for you in working out what it was and how to use it. |
| 08:37.03 | Kira | It's already breaking vanilla psql by adding a --cluster option anyway, so why not go the whole nine yards, right? |
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| 08:37.24 | AlexKa-71 | sorry ;-) |
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| 08:39.40 | factor_ | How can I update the libc6 , will init 1 then init 3 get it instal . |
| 08:39.49 | factor_ | without reboot |
| 08:40.02 | factor_ | Or wil init 1 still use the same libc6 |
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| 08:42.35 | NCS_One | I'm doing a small web server, I have 2 40GB HDDs what partition scheme you recommend? |
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| 08:45.51 | `ajven | there is some easy way to install nvidia 32 libs ? |
| 08:45.55 | `ajven | for wine ? |
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| 08:48.37 | Kira | In fact, pg_wrapper is broken in that it picks the older version of the psql client when you don't specify the cluster. Connecting to an old server using a new client almost always ok; the converse will result in a warning immediately. |
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| 08:59.51 | huleo_ | hi guys |
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| 09:00.07 | huleo_ | I have small server here with wheezy and somehow broken postfix |
| 09:00.25 | huleo_ | now, it seems to start alright, but no logs are written |
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| 09:00.59 | huleo_ | and it doesn't work |
| 09:01.00 | huleo_ | simple as that |
| 09:01.21 | nkuttler | huleo_: what starts? which logs are not written? what does not work? how do you know? |
| 09:01.34 | `ajven | "got log and watch log" ;) |
| 09:01.54 | huleo_ | it's supposed to create/append to /var/log/mail.log, right? |
| 09:01.58 | huleo_ | postfix |
| 09:02.00 | xintron | I'm creating deb packages for our testing server using a git repository as source (fetching the latest development branch). How would I create new packages (incrementing the version) if the current development is version 3.4? |
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| 09:02.10 | huleo_ | no error starting it, but no functionality and no logs |
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| 09:03.34 | istram | huleo_: you might want to try to run it without detaching directly in terminal |
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| 09:03.41 | huleo_ | hmm |
| 09:03.52 | istram | and if that doesn't help, strace is your last friend. |
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| 09:10.13 | robin_ | Hello, I have jessie and I want to put Windows 8.1 on a different partition to play games and waste my time with. How may I go about by doing that? |
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| 09:11.41 | somiaj | robin_: this really isn't a debian question. But provided you have a partition to install windows on you will then need a rescue image for debian, so you can get into your install and reinstall grub after windows overwrites it |
| 09:11.47 | Kira | And since I have both versions 8.4 and 9.1 of postgresql installed, both services are started when the OS boots. |
| 09:11.56 | somiaj | robin_: once you do that os-prober should see the windows partition and set up the correct entries for grub |
| 09:12.05 | Kira | Is there a way to make one of the versions not start automatically without completely uninstalling it? |
| 09:12.30 | Kira | s/both services/both versions/ |
| 09:12.54 | Kira | (there is only one `postgresql` service, which controls both versions) |
| 09:13.03 | robin_ | somiaj, thank you for telling me about the rescue image. Can you link one? Or can I just use the installer? The problem is that Windows refuses to use the partition. |
| 09:13.16 | boratynskikamil | Dear all, I have problem with GlusterFS. |
| 09:13.25 | boratynskikamil | I have the same disk on each node. The same device. |
| 09:13.27 | somiaj | robin_: the debian installer can be used. You just need to boot onto a linux kernel so you can chroot into your old install. |
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| 09:13.36 | boratynskikamil | Created one partition and formated it into ext4. |
| 09:13.41 | boratynskikamil | Then mounted on each node. |
| 09:14.05 | somiaj | Kira: why do you have two versions isntalled? Anyways on sysvinit you can do 'update-rc.d service disable' and that will keep that servive from starting at boot |
| 09:14.06 | boratynskikamil | After that I added a replicated volume on these nodes. |
| 09:14.21 | boratynskikamil | When I create a file on node0 i do not see it on node1. |
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| 09:14.32 | Kira | somiaj: the problem is that a *single* service is controlling both versions of postgresql. |
| 09:14.37 | OERIAS | Can Debian 7.6 boot from a Ext2 partition? |
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| 09:14.45 | robin_ | somiaj, okay. What about Windows refusing the disk partition? I really don't want to go to #Windows because I already went there and :C |
| 09:14.56 | robin_ | I don't want to insult anybody. |
| 09:15.01 | Kira | somiaj: I want to disable only one of the versions, without completely uninstalling said version. |
| 09:15.32 | Kira | (without hand-patching the init.d script, that would be horrible) |
| 09:15.43 | somiaj | Kira: sounds like you need to go modify the init.d scripts and split it apart so one controls only the version of postgres you want |
| 09:16.02 | Disconsented | I want to serve files to some windows machines what is the easist way to do this? |
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| 09:16.39 | somiaj | robin_: windows support is off-topic here. How to get windows to see a partition is not a question for #debian. How to reinstall grub after you sucsfully install windows is. Until that point you should be in ##windows |
| 09:16.54 | huleo_ | Timeout waiting for data from client. (in reply to end of DATA command)) |
| 09:16.59 | somiaj | Disconsented: samba is a server that uses the windows share protocol |
| 09:17.06 | huleo_ | that's what's logged when email is supposed to be sent |
| 09:17.10 | Disconsented | Anything else? |
| 09:17.16 | huleo_ | postfix, got it logging |
| 09:17.31 | somiaj | Disconsented: you could also set up a ftp/sftp/http server to get them, but if you want file sharing like windows share use samba. |
| 09:17.55 | Disconsented | http would work, what do you recommend? |
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| 09:18.16 | somiaj | Disconsented: for http you have various options. apache and lighthttpd |
| 09:18.24 | somiaj | (there may be others, those are the ones that jump into my mind) |
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| 09:19.14 | qjqqyy | nginx |
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| 09:21.19 | mepl | Anyone know of a package that will organize my wine installations? I would like to have it in my start menu or something. |
| 09:21.28 | Disconsented | I want to just server files internally (LAN) which is the easist to set up to do that? |
| 09:21.28 | mepl | Instead of each time having to run wine in the terminal |
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| 09:22.32 | somiaj | mepl: what desktop/wm do you use. Wine usually creates a .desktop file for anything you install via some installer |
| 09:23.06 | mepl | using linux mint mate |
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| 09:23.20 | mepl | it did not create anything on the desktop |
| 09:23.42 | peetaur2 | Disconsented: also scp/sftp |
| 09:23.43 | somiaj | mepl: this is #debian, if you want linux mint support please use their support. |
| 09:23.44 | somiaj | !mint |
| 09:23.44 | dpkg_ | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 09:24.35 | mepl | That channel is just dead, I have recieved help here before thats is why I asked. Oh well thank you anyway! |
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| 09:25.10 | mepl | oh, it was on another network ^ |
| 09:25.27 | aypea[0] | does anyone know of a netbook like device that is actually linux-friendly these days? my eee 901 is a mite slow and I'm hoping to upgrade |
| 09:25.40 | somiaj | mepl: for social and tech reason we choose to only support debian proper. You need to use mint's support to figure out how to configure it to read the .desktop files made by wine to add them to your menu. There is also ##winehq, but you may have better luck asking in a channel for the desktop/wm you use. |
| 09:26.01 | mepl | Thank you |
| 09:26.11 | somiaj | aypea[0]: there are lots of them, I would find one you like and then check if it is supported. |
| 09:26.32 | aypea[0] | samiaj: I've been doing that. keep hitting dead-ends. |
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| 09:27.37 | aypea[0] | laments the death of the eee line. it worked. :/ |
| 09:27.40 | somiaj | aypea[0]: I recentally found a ubuntu site that has a list of certified hardware. Maybe start there. I also think linux foundation has a list of supported devices. |
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| 09:30.15 | mepl | somiaj: they sent me back here to #winehq :D |
| 09:30.49 | aypea[0] | somiaj: thanks. will keep poking. |
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| 09:31.37 | KM0201 | aypea[0]: youu're using Linux Mint Mate... just add your menus/icons just like you did w/ gnome 2 |
| 09:31.42 | KM0201 | i guess i don't understand the problem |
| 09:31.56 | meek_geek | hi |
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| 09:32.13 | aypea[0] | isn't! :) |
| 09:32.15 | meek_geek | anyone knows how to install Windows 8.1 with Debian |
| 09:32.19 | meek_geek | I have debian installed |
| 09:32.21 | byte | lol :> |
| 09:32.25 | aypea[0] | er |
| 09:32.32 | KM0201 | meek_geek: ah, thought you said Mint Mate.. my bad |
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| 09:33.03 | KM0201 | oh wait, that was mepl |
| 09:33.19 | KM0201 | mepl: if you're using Mint Mate... just set up new menus... |
| 09:33.37 | Disconsented | meek_geek: Burno the W8 iso to a disk and boot from it /? |
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| 09:34.27 | meek_geek | Disconsented, but i need to shrink the current disk for extra space |
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| 10:00.19 | NCS_One | any howto on how to install debian with raid1? |
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| 10:00.49 | SynrGy | NCS_One: read the debian installation guide |
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| 10:00.59 | ntz | hello |
| 10:01.02 | ntz | may I ask |
| 10:01.04 | SynrGy | i found it quite straightforward. |
| 10:01.29 | SynrGy | !ask |
| 10:01.30 | dpkg_ | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 10:02.23 | ntz | I have ordinary name services resolution subsystem setup (files dns for hosts: in nsswitch.conf) but some apps are reporting, that they can't resolve localhost and also when I type `host localhost' it spits right away 127.0.0.1 but then timeouts attempting to contact dns servers |
| 10:02.28 | ntz | why ? |
| 10:02.30 | ntz | etc/hosts is fine |
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| 10:04.01 | ntz | http://susepaste.org/view/raw/34437059 |
| 10:04.19 | SynrGy | NCS_One: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition and particularly 6.3.3.4 |
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| 10:04.55 | SynrGy | (i'm assuming amd64; if your architecture is different, follow the manual for your architecture) |
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| 10:05.41 | NCS_One | SynrGy: thanks |
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| 10:06.17 | NCS_One | SynrGy: have to leave. brb |
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| 10:08.40 | SynrGy | ntz: try host -r localhost |
| 10:09.24 | SynrGy | forwarding lookup of 'localhost' to dns servers is nonsense |
| 10:09.34 | SynrGy | but 'host' apparently tries anyway |
| 10:10.03 | SynrGy | i don't use it. too simplistic. use dig instead. |
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| 10:10.41 | SynrGy | ntz: curious that you use susepaste. are you using debian? |
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| 10:11.58 | ntz | no, I hate debian in real |
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| 10:12.23 | ntz | SynrGy: but sometimes I have to do something on someone's else debian |
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| 10:12.59 | ntz | SynrGy: anyway, I have full log of: |
| 10:13.00 | SynrGy | ntz: why are you asking on the debian support channel for a non-debian support question, then? |
| 10:13.00 | ntz | 1843:20140805:114922.920 Sending list of active checks to [127.0.0.1] failed: host [localhost] not found |
| 10:13.29 | ntz | and I have no clue why when the name resolution subsystem including nsswitch, hosts and resolv.conf is absolutely ordinary here |
| 10:13.40 | ntz | SynrGy: it is actually debian |
| 10:13.51 | SynrGy | ntz: then why did you answer "no" to my question? |
| 10:13.53 | ntz | was just replying why I use susepaste |
| 10:14.20 | SynrGy | ok. you confused me. my question was whether you are using debian or not. you answered "no" |
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| 10:14.48 | ntz | reread please .. you asked if I am using debian and I said no: personally I'd never use debian howevber I have sometimes some duties on debian system(s) which I don't regulary administerer |
| 10:14.53 | ntz | **administere |
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| 10:15.46 | ntz | anyway, is there anyone able to tell me why have debian issues with resolving localhost when files are before dns in nssqitch ? |
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| 10:17.02 | SynrGy | ntz: i did read that. however, i read it as incidental to your report ("sometimes" is not necessarily now) |
| 10:17.05 | Disconsented | How do I allow anonymous access to just /home/ for members on the internal network via FTP? |
| 10:17.11 | SynrGy | ntz: but thanks for clarifying |
| 10:17.28 | SynrGy | ntz: for comparison, on a normal debian host: http://paste.debian.net/113764/ |
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| 10:18.21 | SynrGy | ntz: my nsswitch.conf for this host: http://paste.debian.net/113765/ |
| 10:18.47 | ntz | thanks |
| 10:19.05 | SynrGy | ntz: anything different there? |
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| 10:19.36 | ntz | yes, you use mdns but that should not be an issue |
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| 10:22.29 | SynrGy | ntz: does host -v localhost shed any additional light on the timing oddity? |
| 10:22.33 | themill | btw "host" is the wrong tool to be using to test resolution of things from /etc/hosts. |
| 10:23.27 | SynrGy | hm, and i guess dig would be, too |
| 10:24.02 | themill | yes. You need things that actually look at /etc/hosts, preferably using libc's resolver (so getent hosts) |
| 10:24.14 | SynrGy | files that in brain for future reference |
| 10:24.16 | themill | although getent hosts could do with some additional debugging output |
| 10:24.24 | ntz | yes, but I kust don't catch why zabbix says that it can't resolve localhost and why host localhost takes so long |
| 10:24.55 | ntz | host should just stop asking anywhere when files dns are in nsswitch |
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| 10:25.04 | themill | host doesn't look at nsswitch |
| 10:25.13 | ntz | it should not attempt to contact any nameserver |
| 10:25.16 | ntz | themill: I know |
| 10:25.24 | themill | host's only job is to contact nameservers |
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| 10:26.44 | SynrGy | ntz: re 'host should just stop asking anywhere when files dns are in nsswitch', i know that's the behaviour *you* desire. however, it is apparently not what really happens. |
| 10:27.29 | themill | that's not what it is designed for. "host" is for talking to dns servers. rm is for deleting files. |
| 10:27.32 | ntz | weird .. just for test did strace on my suse workstation and also on some el6 (rhel) systems |
| 10:27.58 | ntz | ofc it doesn't even attempt to contact nameserver when it receives localhost ip from local facility |
| 10:28.13 | ntz | but in debian it queries nameservers for host "localhost" ?? wtf |
| 10:28.32 | themill | that's it's job... can we please not go around that block yet again? |
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| 10:29.04 | themill | there are lots of different things that might be your host(1). Debian's is from bind and its one and only job is to talk to nameservers. It has a man page. |
| 10:30.30 | ntz | hmm |
| 10:30.36 | ntz | I know that manpage |
| 10:31.12 | ntz | and moreover from my POV it's yet another nasty debian misbehaving (like several segfaults of up-to-date utils in 6.0.9) |
| 10:31.30 | themill | that's nice. /dev/null is over there |
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| 10:37.36 | jargon | what happened to ffmpeg and what can i use in its stead to convert .mp4 to .mp3? |
| 10:37.53 | SynrGy | ntz: so, let me explain a little about getting help on the internet. going to a support channel and ranting about how much you hate the software you're seeking support for doesn't incline the helpers much to help you solve your problem. |
| 10:37.58 | babilen | jargon: libav-bin |
| 10:38.40 | babilen | dselect: tell jargon about libav |
| 10:38.41 | acemi | jargon: you can install original ffmpeg from deb-multimedia.org repo |
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| 10:38.58 | babilen | advises against dmm |
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| 10:39.13 | babilen | And jessie will have ffmpeg again fwiw |
| 10:41.19 | SynrGy | babilen: interesting development. i must've been napping ... |
| 10:41.31 | Disconsented | I am trying to install debian 7.6 and its spitting out that I am missing the firmware files and that I can load them from remoavable media. Where do I go to get these (rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin) |
| 10:42.24 | themill | babilen: maybe |
| 10:42.39 | SynrGy | it would need to be in sid first. and apparently isn't |
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| 10:43.39 | jargon | babilen: acemi: thanks |
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| 10:44.14 | ntz | SynrGy: my apologize, but you asked |
| 10:45.56 | SynrGy | ntz: i didn't ask you how you felt about debian. i asked you if you were using it. and from context, i had hoped you'd understand you meant "right now, for this support question". instead, i got a declaration of hate. and you followed that with later ranting. please stick to support questions here and keep it professional. i did *not* ask to be bitched at |
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| 10:47.51 | SynrGy | ntz: blaming me for asking colours your "apology" as pretty insincere |
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| 10:54.41 | jargon | babilen: is the libav-bin installed by installing libav-tools? |
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| 10:57.38 | babilen | jargon: Ah, yeah. Sorry, I was under the impression that the package name is "libav-bin" rather then the actuel "libav-tools". Please forgive this inexcusable oversight. |
| 10:58.19 | jargon | babilen: ok. so i installed libav-tools and i have no command starting with lib except libreoffice :-/ |
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| 10:59.02 | babilen | jargon: You are looking for avconv, avplay, ... (cf. "dpkg -L libav-tools") |
| 10:59.23 | Brigo | jargon: /usr/bin/avconv,/usr/bin/avplay,/usr/bin/avprobe,/usr/bin/qt-faststart |
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| 11:01.05 | jargon | babilen: Brigo: thanks! |
| 11:01.17 | SynrGy | jargon: and in future, do not assume equivalence between package name and name of executable. |
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| 11:01.46 | SynrGy | lib* are libraries and have no executables (but -tools, -utils, -bin associated with that library might) |
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| 11:03.21 | themill | (dlocate -lsbin $package) |
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| 11:05.14 | SynrGy | themill: cool. didn't know that one (and -lsman does the expected, too) |
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| 11:07.01 | qjqqyy | qwinff? |
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| 11:07.07 | qjqqyy | heard it's a cool frontend |
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| 11:08.10 | SynrGy | qjqqyy: is this a debian support question? if so, please rephrase as an actual question ... |
| 11:08.23 | SynrGy | !ask |
| 11:08.23 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 11:08.23 | qjqqyy | no sry was @ jargon |
| 11:08.24 | qjqqyy | oops |
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| 11:10.18 | veek | any idea why this: dispcal: Error - tcgetattr failed with 'Input/output error' on serial port '/dev/ttyS0' |
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| 11:10.30 | veek | its not able to find my video device? |
| 11:10.45 | veek | open("/dev/bus/usb/001/002", O_RDWR) = 3 etc fail |
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| 11:12.57 | SynrGy | veek: permissions? not in the 'dialout' group? |
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| 11:13.25 | SynrGy | veek: 'serial port' is not a video device. it's a serial device |
| 11:14.08 | SynrGy | veek: i gather it's trying to use a serial calibration interface |
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| 11:14.55 | veek | ah.. so i definetly need a colorimeter hooked up then |
| 11:15.09 | SynrGy | if that's the hardware it's probing for, yes |
| 11:15.22 | SynrGy | but you would still need to be in 'dialout' |
| 11:15.35 | SynrGy | (assuming that's the group /dev/ttyS0 is in; it is on my system) |
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| 11:16.11 | veek | yup same here 'dialout' ty though |
| 11:16.17 | veek | didn't know about that |
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| 11:24.32 | Lope | Can a user only mount a single ecryptfs volume simultaneously? I'm trying to make a 2nd ecryptfs volume and it says "wrapped-passphrase file already exists, use --force to overwrite."? |
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| 11:25.23 | `ajven | hi, im not sure why i cant make ssh auto start, any idea ? - http://pastebin.com/VCuWhmbV |
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| 11:28.54 | `ajven | nobody ? :) |
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| 11:30.03 | Extensa5630G | !wrapper |
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| 11:42.24 | viscera | Does anyone bother with "packaging-dev" package to install packager tools? I just discovered it in the Debian archive but haven't seen it mentioned anywhere (e.g. on the web). |
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| 12:00.05 | matvgr | hi all |
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| 12:02.15 | matvgr | I try to solve a problem I have with locales. |
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| 12:05.53 | matvgr | Am I at the right place to discuss about it ? |
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| 12:07.16 | qjqqyy | yes |
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| 12:07.29 | pfote | matvgr: just describe your problem and your attempt to solve it, then we'll see |
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| 12:08.59 | matvgr | thx. ( i'm on an unstable radio-link) |
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| 12:11.37 | matvgr | I need to store files named by a wide range of clients. Filenames are tested utf-8 compliant. |
| 12:11.37 | matvgr | files are stored on a file-mounted etx4 on an en-us utf8 server. |
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| 12:21.50 | matvgr | (i have to deal with a huge number of files with really long filenames, so i can't waste any space) |
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| 12:22.20 | matvgr | back, sorry |
| 12:24.14 | petn-randall | matvgr: And what is the locale problem you are seeing? |
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| 12:26.59 | matvgr | what a link :-) |
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| 12:31.50 | jdennis1 | We run debian stable on about 15 rackmount servers, can I start a conversation about hardware brands in here? |
| 12:32.16 | OpenTokix | jdennis1: I dont know, buf defintly in debian-offtopic |
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| 12:35.05 | jdennis1 | We've been running Dell rackmount servers for 7+ years(here again with Debian stable). We have been able to get Dell OSMA to run, so we can check the ESM log and other support related things. For a number of reasons I'm looking at moving away from Dell. |
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| 12:35.52 | jdennis1 | Anyone familiar with other major hardware vendors for rackmount servers that have tools that also can run on Debian stable for basic hardware troubleshooting, etc.? |
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| 12:36.14 | formorer | the debian project uses a lot of HP server internally |
| 12:36.22 | matvgr | I also have a question about entropy gathering and how entropy is stocked in debian |
| 12:36.27 | formorer | I for myself have good experiences with TK (Thomas Krenn) |
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| 12:38.55 | jdennis1 | HP is probably the main brand I'm looking at. WHen I asked about something like OMSA they mentioned "Inside Control", which I feel like is something very different. |
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| 12:39.34 | OpenTokix | jdennis1: I have had great sucess with supermicro hardware |
| 12:40.28 | petn-randall | jdennis1, formorer, I can also recommend Thomas-Krenn, though I don't how far they ship. |
| 12:40.32 | matvgr | got some hp G5 that works fine |
| 12:41.06 | jdennis1 | I'm in USA |
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| 12:42.11 | jdennis1 | matvgr: do you have any tools you can run to monitor the hardware? |
| 12:42.39 | jdennis1 | for example with OMSA, we had one sever that had a thermal sensor tripping, it was writing to the ESM log that we could check from the command line |
| 12:42.42 | matvgr | Integrated Lights Out |
| 12:42.56 | ioudas | does anyone have experience setting up alfresco cifs on debian? |
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| 12:45.16 | matvgr | (have to quit, bye) |
| 12:45.32 | himuraken | jdennis1, I second the notion that super micro has treated us great. Our super micros are just as reliable as the poweredges etc |
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| 12:46.23 | petn-randall | I'm not sure how trustworthy their IPMI firmware is, though ... |
| 12:46.29 | Jn_Kell | jdennis1, multiple HP proliants here, all work as expected (fileserver, webapps, DNS and distributed workstations). |
| 12:47.11 | jdennis1 | Jn_Kell: do you use integrated lights out? |
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| 12:48.05 | Jn_Kell | jdennis1, i don't think so. |
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| 12:48.57 | Jn_Kell | jdennis1, wait, just checked, yes we do :) |
| 12:49.46 | jdennis1 | I'm still reading about it, looks like you probably don't even need to have any debian packages installed to take advantage of it, if I understand it correctly |
| 12:50.15 | jdennis1 | my big thing is when we have hardware related issues, we can't just re-boot the server to run some vendor provided diagnosis, that is a major pain in the *** |
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| 12:52.10 | Jn_Kell | jdennis1, maybe i'm a but old-fashioned, but i've yet to run into a hw problem which i couldn't diagnose through Debian. |
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| 12:52.57 | Jn_Kell | jdennis1, been running proliants for at least 7 years. |
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| 12:57.17 | jdennis1 | Jn_kell: depending on the problem through debian may work fine, but if it's something very specific and unclear what's causing it and even random in occurance, I want all the help I can get tracking it down |
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| 12:57.59 | jdennis1 | with Dell, in my experience they typically want output from their tools before they'll send replacement parts, etc. |
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| 13:01.27 | jdennis1 | How often do you guys run apt-get upgrade on your production servers running debian stable? |
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| 13:02.29 | peetaur2 | jdennis1: use unattended-upgrades instead, set to security only |
| 13:02.53 | jdennis1 | peetaur2: what about kernel updates though? |
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| 13:03.17 | peetaur2 | jdennis1: unattended does those, but doesn't auto-reboot |
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| 13:05.18 | jdennis1 | maybe I'm just a control freak or old-fashioned, but we try to do apt-get upgrade once a month, typically there is a kernel update in there so we reboot then |
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| 13:06.24 | jdennis1 | auto upgrading packages kind of scares me, like if it's a new version of MySQL, etc. |
| 13:06.34 | fflush | how do I prevent debian wheezy from suspending when the machine is iddle |
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| 13:07.09 | OpenTokix | jdennis1: you will not get a new mysql version, but minor patchlevers within the same version, during a release |
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| 13:07.43 | OpenTokix | jdennis1: I have done several dist-upgrades on production machines running mysql, with major version upgrades. - Have worked some some minor configurations changes. |
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| 13:10.14 | Otyugh | hey |
| 13:10.16 | ghoulsblade | hi all, having some trouble with eSATA port multiplier pci-card, should be SI3132 or SiL 3132 chipset in device called LG56CM1, but lspci -vvv doesn't show it http://pastebin.com/uHwKSVdf any idea how/why i dont see it ? |
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| 13:10.51 | Otyugh | I can't access my bank account because I'm not using firefox, but iceweasel ? oO |
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| 13:15.29 | petn-randall | Otyugh: Guess your bank has a crappy web page. You can override your user agent string with a plugin. Search for "user agent switcher" in the firefox extensions. |
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| 13:16.46 | petn-randall | ghoulsblade: You have a intel S-ATA controller. If lspci doesn't list it, it isn't connected to your PCI bus (e.g. not in the PCI slot). |
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| 13:40.39 | ghoulsblade | petn-randall, what i'm tryng to get to work is a pci-express card that connects via eSATA to an external hard-disk array, the internal sata slots work fine. the pcie card is physically in the slot |
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| 13:41.22 | [TheFlash] | why is gnuplot in the main repository? its license doesn't pass the dissident test |
| 13:41.27 | [TheFlash] | it should be in non-free |
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| 13:42.01 | centrx | [TheFlash], Debian packages need to meet the DFSG-free test: https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
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| 13:42.42 | [TheFlash] | centrx: so, why is a package which doesn't pass the test in the main repository? |
| 13:43.01 | centrx | [TheFlash], What is not free about it? |
| 13:43.14 | [TheFlash] | centrx: you can't redistribute it without disclosing personal information |
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| 13:44.45 | [TheFlash] | centrx: that part of the license wasn't present before, btw |
| 13:44.49 | [TheFlash] | it was added later |
| 13:44.59 | [TheFlash] | perhaps after it was first packaged into debian |
| 13:45.59 | centrx | [TheFlash], Here is a discussion on it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/12/msg00205.html |
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| 13:47.33 | centrx | [TheFlash], I think it's a close call. After all, it does not say you must provide your birth name. |
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| 13:48.08 | centrx | [TheFlash], It really means you must uniquely identify your new version as being from a new source with a new name. That could be an organization's name or an alias potentially. |
| 13:48.17 | [TheFlash] | centrx: so, a pseudonym is fine? |
| 13:48.32 | bolt | i am trying to output to an old lcd tv that has a vga in. allegedly, the tv supports 800x600, but while the display is perfectly crisp, it's a little bit too wide for the tv. i can adjust the position on the tv, but i can't adjust the image width. i need like 780x600, it looks like. how do i get xorg to do this? |
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| 13:48.50 | [TheFlash] | and a pseudonym + a free email address is enough for the contact information? |
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| 13:49.49 | centrx | [TheFlash], I think that's a reasonable interpretation and the reason why gnuplot is widely accepted as free software, but I have not done a full legal analysis of it |
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| 13:50.07 | centrx | [TheFlash], The DFSG puts it as "The license may require derived works to carry a different name or version number from the original software. (This is a compromise. The Debian group encourages all authors not to restrict any files, source or binary, from being modified.)" |
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| 13:50.57 | centrx | [TheFlash], You can call yourself anything you like, you can give yourself any name. This is well-established legally in England/America at least |
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| 13:53.46 | neglesaks | Does Debian 7 have a default installed file/folder sharing control panel (primarily for SMB/Samba)? If not, is there a package that provides this functionality (like in Ubuntu)? |
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| 13:56.53 | centrx | neglesaks, Debian has file sharing through Samba. There are probably several available GUI tools to configure it I'm not familiar with. |
| 13:57.00 | centrx | neglesaks, It may be in Gnome control panel by defualt |
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| 13:58.35 | neglesaks | centrx, thanks, ill have a look. I see several smb related packages are already installed |
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| 14:00.00 | petn-randall | Hi everyone, I'm looking for a tool that can display which process used how much network traffic during a certain timeframe. Any suggestions? The data needs to be persistent, I want to review not only the current situation/processes, but also previous timeframes. |
| 14:00.07 | centrx | neglesaks, If you are looking to browse shares, I believe that is in Nautilus (Gnome's file manager) by default. For sharing your own directories, I always configured it manually in the configuration file so I don't know about the GUI tools |
| 14:00.16 | [TheFlash] | centrx: well yes, also international copyright law allows copyright assignment to pseudonyms, although it expires in a set amount of years in that case |
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| 14:01.26 | [TheFlash] | centrx: that's why i thought the license is non-free, since if it asked for the birth name, it would restrict something normally allowed by copyright |
| 14:02.42 | [TheFlash] | ok, thanks for the explanation, bye |
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| 14:49.20 | tvonlaptop | I would very much like to watch TV on my laptop and the only USB TV Tuner that I found where I live is the ISDB-T Receiver/DVB (EzTV939). But will it work on GNU/Linux? |
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| 14:49.54 | abrotman | tvonlaptop: that would depend on the device (if there's a driver) and your current kernel |
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| 14:50.34 | tvonlaptop | abrotman, how can I be sure? |
| 14:50.46 | tvonlaptop | http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ezcap-usb-isdb-t-stick-Full_1927900320.html |
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| 14:51.26 | abrotman | that's a useless wsebsite |
| 14:51.33 | abrotman | but it does list linux as a supported OS |
| 14:52.12 | abrotman | (though I can't get google to agree about that) |
| 14:52.47 | abrotman | tvonlaptop: contact the manufacturer |
| 14:52.57 | tvonlaptop | This wholesaler's page says that Linux is supported but I have seen that other wholesalers pages that do not say so. Moreover, some individuals selling the device claim that it is not supported by Linux |
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| 14:54.59 | abrotman | tvonlaptop: contact the manufacturer |
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| 14:56.47 | tvonlaptop | abrotman, could not find anywhere the manufacturers email/number |
| 14:57.12 | tvonlaptop | http://www.szforwardvideo.com/article_read_312.html |
| 14:58.26 | abrotman | okay |
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| 15:03.46 | tvonlaptop | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/n2xCH4rY |
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| 15:04.53 | tvonlaptop | abrotman, is this the right channel to ask if the device is supported by Linux? |
| 15:05.04 | abrotman | tvonlaptop: which Linux? |
| 15:05.13 | tvonlaptop | Debian |
| 15:05.23 | abrotman | ask the manufacturer |
| 15:05.32 | tvonlaptop | abrotman, could not find anywhere the manufacturers email/number |
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| 15:06.15 | tvonlaptop | abrotman, and afaik the manufacturer is not on IRC |
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| 15:08.48 | abrotman | I'm not the manufacturer either |
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| 15:09.14 | trogdor_ | (ooooop |
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| 15:10.34 | nicxz | tvonlaptop: several things you can try. ask manufacturer is a good one. failing that, google away on all known specs to see if someone else has been kind enought to figure it out and share. and finally, try to get it working yourself. |
| 15:10.57 | nicxz | if you get to the third option and run into difficulties, feel free to ask here ;) |
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| 15:18.09 | tvonlaptop | nicxz, , could not find anywhere the manufacturers email/number and googled away before entering this channel. Any other suggestions? |
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| 15:19.19 | jaybe | if the manufacturer tried that hard to not be identified/found/contacted... and you are incapable of identifying contact informatoin of a company you purchased a product from... you are going to have a bad time with this particular product me thinks |
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| 15:21.38 | nicxz | tvonlaptop: find a general howto for tv cards on linux maybe? |
| 15:22.00 | nicxz | and hope there's a commonly used module that works |
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| 15:26.44 | tvonlaptop | nicxz, a general howto will not do for ISDB-T devices |
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| 15:27.55 | nicxz | tvonlaptop: the best advice i can give you is something you probably don't want to hear right now. but for future reference: research before buying. |
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| 15:28.20 | blockh34d | anyone have any tips or a guide they'd suggest for best practices integrating man into an apps deployment? ie where should i install man pages too, is there a standard structure they should follow, etc |
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| 15:29.10 | blockh34d | i actually dont use man a whole lot but it seems like a good idea |
| 15:30.39 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: check out http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ISDB-T_USB_Devices or similar, and try to identify which chipset your card actually is |
| 15:30.40 | tvonlaptop | nicxz, i have not bought ISDB-T Receiver/DVB (EzTV939). However, that is the only USB TV Tuner that I could find where I live which is a disgrace. So i do not understand why you are giving me such advice |
| 15:30.51 | jaybe | blockh34d, pretty much every debian package includes a man page; just see how they've done it |
| 15:31.04 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: it probably isn't exactly an eztv939; it's probably some other chipset which they rebranded |
| 15:31.13 | tvonlaptop | dondelelcaro, i visited that page before entering this channel |
| 15:31.19 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: and? |
| 15:31.32 | nicxz | tvonlaptop: ah i misunderstood than, thought you already bought it. |
| 15:31.38 | nicxz | *then |
| 15:31.51 | blockh34d | jaybe: yah i'm not using apt-get its this other hookey thing for raspberry pi.. thanks though i'll try to have a look |
| 15:31.56 | tvonlaptop | dondelelcaro, the only useful info that could give us a clue : http://pastebin.com/n2xCH4rY |
| 15:32.22 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: that doesn't contain anything useful. |
| 15:32.43 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: you need at least the usb device ids |
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| 15:33.05 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: if the store does returns, then you can find that out |
| 15:33.20 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: if it doesn't, they might allow you to plug a demo unit into a machine |
| 15:33.22 | blockh34d | if i wanted to escape from the socalled 'pi store' and into a proper deployment system like apt-get, anyone have any suggestions for how to get started with that? |
| 15:33.28 | tvonlaptop | the "store" does not do returns under any circumstance |
| 15:35.04 | tvonlaptop | and they do not offer the possibility of plugin a demo unit into a machine either |
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| 15:35.43 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: well, your choices are to google search and try to figure that out, or take the plunge, or find a friend who has one |
| 15:36.09 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: you might also try posting on whatever mailing list is associated with the dvb project, and someone there might know specifically about this usb dongle |
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| 15:37.57 | blockh34d | what is dvb? i've had people ask me about supporting it but i'm not sure what it does... sounds like, video streaming |
| 15:38.16 | tvonlaptop | dondelelcaro , could not find anywhere the manufacturers email/number, asked friends and googled away before entering this channel. The archives for the mailing lists you mentioned are searchable but could not find anything either |
| 15:39.02 | jaybe | tvonlaptop, what product did you purchase? provide the full manufacturer name, model number, etc. |
| 15:39.40 | tvonlaptop | nicxz, i have NOT bought the ISDB-T Receiver/DVB (EzTV939). However, that is the only USB TV Tuner that I could find where I live which is a disgrace. |
| 15:39.56 | tvonlaptop | jaybe, i have NOT bought the ISDB-T Receiver/DVB (EzTV939). However, that is the only USB TV Tuner that I could find where I live which is a disgrace. |
| 15:40.14 | jaybe | i don't care what you *haven't* bought - what *did* you buy. provide the full manufacturer name, model number, etc. |
| 15:40.17 | abrotman | wtf .. |
| 15:40.26 | jaybe | it is dark here. you are likely to be eaten by a grue. |
| 15:40.29 | dondelelcaro | jaybe: he hasn't bought anything |
| 15:40.40 | jaybe | wtf; then don't buy it. feels like trollville. |
| 15:40.48 | dondelelcaro | jaybe: he is trying to figure out whether the dongle is supported at all in linux. |
| 15:40.58 | jaybe | my bad; /me silences himself |
| 15:41.25 | tvonlaptop | jaybe: http://www.szforwardvideo.com/article_read_312.html |
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| 15:42.03 | tvonlaptop | jaybe, the only useful info that could give us a clue : http://pastebin.com/n2xCH4rY |
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| 15:43.19 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: does the "store" have this dongle plugged into anything? |
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| 15:43.48 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: if it's into a windows machine, you can figure out what its manufacturer id actually is... |
| 15:44.06 | ag4ve_ | i have an iptables.save file in /etc/default but it isn't being loaded when the network starts...? |
| 15:44.25 | ag4ve_ | is this the right place for it? |
| 15:44.27 | jaybe | ag4ve_, check out `apt-cache show iptables-persistent` |
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| 15:44.47 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: but besides that, your best bet is still to send an e-mail to the dvb people or the dongle's manufacturer; we don't know specifically. |
| 15:45.38 | tvonlaptop | dondelelcaro, no. they just have the devices in their boxes and they do not open have a demo unit. They can guarantee that the device works on windows and that is it basically. |
| 15:45.42 | petern_ | What's a nice tool for drawing diagrams? I'm trying to use dia but it's a bit awkward with things like lines and text labels :( |
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| 15:46.35 | ag4ve_ | hmmm, a "script" seems a bit much for just [ -e /etc/default/iptables.save ] && iptables-restore < /etc/default/iptables.save |
| 15:46.44 | dondelelcaro | petern_: inkscape, dia, or dotty is what I usually use |
| 15:46.52 | ag4ve_ | if that's the way i should go, i guess i'll do it but.... wow |
| 15:47.11 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: heh; sucks. well, good luck. |
| 15:47.32 | tvonlaptop | yes it does suck. thanks anyway |
| 15:47.41 | formorer | ag4ve_: libreoffice draw is also usuable |
| 15:47.41 | dondelelcaro | tvonlaptop: no problem. |
| 15:48.54 | dondelelcaro | ag4ve_: if that's all you want, you can stick that into an up rule in /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 15:49.19 | dondelelcaro | ag4ve_: but I would actually suggest switching to something like ferm or similar instead of just writing rules directly |
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| 15:50.15 | dondelelcaro | (the advantage of things like ferm is they have interactive modes which can roll back the rules if you accidentally lock yourself out, do subchaining easily, etc.) |
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| 15:50.29 | formorer | ferm++ |
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| 15:52.34 | ag4ve_ | heh, and iptables-persistent does what i said inside an init script (used -f instead -f my -e as that was an err) |
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| 15:53.17 | dondelelcaro | ag4ve_: right |
| 15:53.40 | ag4ve_ | the problem with automated iptables builders is that none of them make human readible rules |
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| 15:54.00 | ag4ve_ | i'll look at ferm, but.... not much hope :) |
| 15:54.03 | dondelelcaro | ag4ve_: ferm has human readable files, actually... |
| 15:54.53 | dondelelcaro | ag4ve_: ferm is more of a terse method of writing the rules that you already have; it's a one-to-at-least-one correspondence to actual iptables commands |
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| 15:55.37 | dondelelcaro | (the more than one is because you can do things like proto (tcp udp) dport (sunrpc 4000 4001 4002 4003 4004 37276 2049) saddr 192.168.1.12 ACCEPT;) |
| 15:56.01 | dondelelcaro | which in a single line produces 16 rules |
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| 15:57.53 | ag4ve_ | the only part of that that can't be one rule might be dport where you could just use -m multiport ... but, as i say, i'll look at it |
| 15:58.55 | BackEndCoder | yo guys, i get 86% [Waiting for headers] alfl the time (different percentages) on apt-get update |
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| 15:59.16 | BackEndCoder | i have tried commenting out most of my extra repos but it keeps doing it |
| 15:59.21 | BackEndCoder | is there a cache i can clear ? |
| 15:59.39 | ag4ve_ | oh, i guess that'd be one issue - it'd need to check for modules - if i feed it a list of addresses and i've got ipset, i don't want 1k rules - i want one rule with an ipset |
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| 16:35.35 | mlq | anything useful in the log. Has anyone an idea? |
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| 16:35.41 | bolt | i am trying to output to an old lcd tv that has a vga in. allegedly, the tv supports 800x600, but while the display is perfectly crisp, it's a little bit too wide for the tv. i can adjust the position on the tv, but i can't adjust the image width. i need like 780x600, it looks like. how do i get xorg to do this? |
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| 16:39.26 | TJ- | bolt: a custom modeline in the xorg.conf, or via xrandr, that sets the exact timings for the mode |
| 16:39.59 | jhutchins | bolt: There's a program you can run that will generate a configuration rule... |
| 16:40.54 | jhutchins | bolt: ... now if I could just remember what it's called. |
| 16:40.58 | bolt | :D |
| 16:41.07 | qjqqyy | cvt |
| 16:41.14 | qjqqyy | is the name |
| 16:41.21 | qjqqyy | bolt, usage: cvt [-v|--verbose] [-r|--reduced] X Y [refresh] |
| 16:41.37 | bolt | cool. i'll try that. thanks, all of you :) |
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| 16:42.19 | jhutchins | bolt: I think it was xvidtune, which may not exist any more. |
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| 16:44.36 | jhutchins | bolt: Ah, there it is: x11-xserver-utils: /usr/bin/xvidtune |
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| 16:44.46 | jhutchins | bolt: Run it in an xterm. |
| 16:45.49 | bolt | ooh |
| 16:45.49 | bolt | cool |
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| 17:02.55 | NCS_One | on debian install if I configure raid1 am I able to resize disks like with LVM? or should I also configure LVM? |
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| 17:04.00 | osnt | hii all |
| 17:04.05 | osnt | how i can see what is the color depth? |
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| 17:04.46 | osnt | someone here? |
| 17:04.54 | mtn | nope, they all left |
| 17:05.00 | osnt | :( |
| 17:05.04 | mtn | all 1467 of us |
| 17:05.09 | osnt | poor irc :( |
| 17:05.32 | osnt | but how i can see what is the color depth? |
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| 17:05.50 | mtn | osnt: did you ask a search engine? |
| 17:06.15 | osnt | yes. |
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| 17:19.37 | jhutchins | Curiously I think xvidtune is the answer to that one too. |
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| 17:26.38 | abrotman | xdpyinfo |
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| 17:30.02 | deitarion | How do I programmatically query the release name so I can sub it into a sources.list line? |
| 17:30.20 | dondelelcaro | deitarion: in general, you shouldn't have to do that |
| 17:30.36 | dondelelcaro | deitarion: but see lsb_release -a; if you actually do |
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| 17:31.06 | deitarion | dondelelcaro: I'm trying to remove the need to manually update a non-Launchpad add-apt-repository line in a post-install script. |
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| 17:31.54 | dondelelcaro | [A[B |
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| 17:33.08 | deitarion | ? |
| 17:33.15 | dondelelcaro | deitarion: uh... why are you programmatically altering configuration files in a postinst script? |
| 17:34.19 | jhutchins | deitarion: Why does this need to be compatile with multiple releases? |
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| 17:35.19 | deitarion | dondelelcaro: My current approach to installing and reinstalling certain Debian and Ubuntu machines is to manually maintain a script which replicates every change I intentionally make so that, on reinstall or upgrade, I only need to deal with drifts like "Lubuntu 14.04 needs the Lubuntu 12.04 Geeqie 1.0 packages because Geeqie 1.1 is unusably broken" |
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| 17:37.01 | deitarion | For an example, the one which I use for my primary desktop PC is in the roaming profile I keep on GitHub --> https://github.com/ssokolow/profile/blob/master/ubuntu_setup.sh |
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| 17:40.05 | dondelelcaro | deitarion: hrm; sounds like a lot of work... but yes, lsb_release will give you the right codename |
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| 17:40.19 | dondelelcaro | deitarion: you might eventually want to switch to something like chef or puppet... but you probably already knew that |
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| 17:41.04 | deitarion | dondelelcaro: *nod* ...though I'll still need to maintain at least a stub for this since chef and puppet aren't part of the default loadouts offered by the Debian and Ubuntu install processes. |
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| 17:42.16 | dondelelcaro | deitarion: right, but you can easily include them in the install process using preseeding or similar, which you're probably going to also want to do |
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| 17:42.27 | dondelelcaro | (depending on how many machines you're deploying, anyway) |
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| 17:43.23 | deitarion | dondelelcaro: I only maintain three or four machines, so it's usually easier to use an unaltered CD for the desktops and one of the provider-offered Debian images for the VPSes. |
| 17:43.51 | dondelelcaro | deitarion: ah; makes sense |
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| 17:44.12 | deitarion | As for it being a lot of work, I find that it's easier to record every change I want to keep in a shell script than to flush away accumulated cruft after the fact or try to piece together my desktop again by hand after a bad upgrade or a boot drive failure. |
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| 17:46.42 | deitarion | It means that, aside from things I can't anticipate like the bugs in Geeqie and nVidia binary drivers under *buntu 14.04, I can just `git clone [...]; ./ubuntu_setup.sh; ./install.py` and I have a desktop ready for me to reinstall my backup credentials and pull my data back home. |
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| 17:47.37 | deitarion | (Which means I can get a working desktop, sans the private data that needs to be pulled in from incremental backups, in under 60 minutes) |
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| 17:48.17 | Ridere | Hi, anyone has any experience debugging slab / dentry cache? |
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| 18:04.51 | Asuran | hi, dpkg-buildflags --export shows me that my buildflags.conf is succesfully read in, but it take no effects when using debuild. can packages prevent overriding parameters? |
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| 18:15.56 | solidoodlesuppor | Does anyone know a good channel to discuss kernal stuff? |
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| 18:16.03 | solidoodlesuppor | #kernal and ##kernal and empty |
| 18:16.26 | Asuran | #linux maybe |
| 18:16.37 | nkuttler | solidoodlesuppor: try http://kernelnewbies.org/IRC ? |
| 18:16.41 | solidoodlesuppor | They said they don't about the kernal there :/ |
| 18:16.47 | Asuran | strange |
| 18:16.57 | solidoodlesuppor | (At #linux) |
| 18:16.58 | nkuttler | yeah, #linux here is for the mythical linux "os" |
| 18:16.58 | Asuran | i thought the kernal is what linux really is, a kernel |
| 18:17.20 | solidoodlesuppor | I was asking how memory safety is implemented in linux. No one knew. |
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| 18:17.53 | Asuran | what you mean exactly? safe malloc like in openbsd? |
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| 18:18.08 | nkuttler | solidoodlesuppor: there is also a ##kernel |
| 18:18.13 | solidoodlesuppor | No, how are rings of privilage maintained? |
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| 18:18.23 | solidoodlesuppor | Like on windows, it is done through the page directory |
| 18:18.31 | jelly-home | solidoodlesuppor: ##kernel with two 'e's |
| 18:18.32 | solidoodlesuppor | (Which keeps track of who is a 0 or a 3 privilage wise) |
| 18:18.45 | solidoodlesuppor | DERP |
| 18:18.47 | solidoodlesuppor | One of those days |
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| 18:19.25 | Asuran | can no one here help me with my debuild problem? i cant get that package using buildlfags.conf |
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| 18:21.38 | seaoftea | ok debian friends.... I'm having an issue changing the keyboard layout from the console. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to change the default keyboard layout. I have already tried reconfiguring /w 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' followed by 'setupcon'. No go.... |
| 18:21.49 | seaoftea | I still have a qwertz keyboard |
| 18:22.07 | seaoftea | I want a qwerty keyboard |
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| 18:23.38 | nkuttler | seaoftea: console or x? |
| 18:23.47 | seaoftea | console |
| 18:24.05 | seaoftea | This system doesn't have x. It's a VM of a openvas that I was testing |
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| 18:24.17 | nkuttler | oh.. no idea about that.. |
| 18:24.30 | seaoftea | But dear lord I am having a hard time doing anything /w out the right keyboard |
| 18:24.40 | nkuttler | i think when my vms had a messy keyboard, it was because of locale settings, and forwarding over ssh |
| 18:25.01 | seaoftea | I am direct connected to the console of the VM no ssh |
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| 18:30.54 | seaoftea | omg this shouldn't be this hard |
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| 18:35.05 | deitarion | seaoftea: What does `localectl` say? |
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| 18:37.08 | deitarion | (My keyboard has always Just Worked⢠at the console, but according to ArchWiki, localectl is what you use to inspect and temporarily set console keymaps. --> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_Configuration_in_Console) |
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| 18:38.22 | deitarion | ...and it looks like, to permanently set them on Debian-based distros, you edit /etc/default/keyboard |
| 18:39.24 | seaoftea | omg that worked.... I didn't have the console-data package installed in this vm |
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| 18:45.43 | d2dchat | How do I upgrade my version of sqlite 3.7.13 to latest 3.8.x? |
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| 18:46.04 | nkuttler | ,v sqlite3 |
| 18:46.05 | judd | Package: sqlite3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.7.3-1; squeeze-backports: 3.7.13-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.7.13-1+deb7u1; jessie: 3.8.5-2; sid: 3.8.5-2 |
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| 18:46.37 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport sqlite3 |
| 18:46.45 | judd | Backporting package sqlite3 in sidâwheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: tcl8.6-dev. |
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| 18:48.50 | d2dchat | nkuttler, judd what does that mean? |
| 18:49.06 | nkuttler | d2dchat: basically, you don't |
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| 18:50.36 | d2dchat | nkuttler, I have to upgrade to jessie or something? |
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| 18:52.42 | nkuttler | d2dchat: well, that's not recommended. why do you need 3.8? |
| 18:53.05 | nkuttler | you might be able to backport it manually, but usually you don't want to do that.. |
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| 18:54.20 | d2dchat | nkuttler, doing some CSV import/export stuff with it and it actually has a nice feature in 3.8 where it auto creates the table for you based on the headers |
| 18:54.28 | d2dchat | nkuttler, 3.7 does not |
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| 18:57.56 | deitarion | nkuttler: From what I remember, TCL is only required for the bindings, so it should be possible to backport /usr/bin/sqlite3 pretty easily. |
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| 19:00.48 | nkuttler | deitarion: could be |
| 19:00.58 | nkuttler | !tell deitarion about ssbp |
| 19:01.04 | nkuttler | !tell deitarion about package recompile |
| 19:01.10 | nkuttler | the latter for the flags |
| 19:01.40 | deitarion | nkuttler: I'm not the one who needs sqlite 3.8 |
| 19:01.48 | nkuttler | errr |
| 19:01.50 | nkuttler | d2dchat: ^^ |
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| 19:07.15 | Ney | hi, i have a program that I use, where the latest version is not available via the package repository, but some of the bug fixes is essential, now i can get the new version in a tar.bz2 file, but i am clueless as to how to update the program, what is a proper way? |
| 19:07.35 | d2dchat | nkuttler, do I have tcl already? |
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| 19:08.02 | d2dchat | nkuttler, Sry I'm a noob with debian.. not sure how I would go about this without just manually compiling sqlite3 |
| 19:08.02 | dondelelcaro | Ney: if they're that essential, normally the maintainer of the package will introduce fixes for the package |
| 19:08.08 | d2dchat | deitarion, ^ |
| 19:08.16 | d2dchat | also just tried to manually compile it and it's saying htis: |
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| 19:08.28 | somiaj | Ney: what program is it? Is the version in sid but not in wheezy? Depending on the situation there are various things you can do. |
| 19:08.29 | d2dchat | $ sqlite3 |
| 19:08.29 | d2dchat | SQLite header and source version mismatch |
| 19:08.29 | d2dchat | 2012-06-11 02:05:22 f5b5a13f7394dc143aa136f1d4faba6839eaa6dc |
| 19:08.29 | d2dchat | 2014-06-04 14:06:34 b1ed4f2a34ba66c29b130f8d13e9092758019212 |
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| 19:08.45 | dondelelcaro | Ney: but otherwise, you can apt-get source foopkg; uscan; and possibly uupdate, and then cd foopkg-newversion; fakeroot debian/rules clean binary; or similar. |
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| 19:08.55 | d2dchat | http://paste.debian.net/113844/ |
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| 19:09.22 | Ney | it is xmltv (a program for scanning EPG data) |
| 19:09.39 | somiaj | ,v xmltv |
| 19:09.41 | judd | Package: xmltv on i386 -- squeeze: 0.5.59-1; jessie: 0.5.63-2; sid: 0.5.63-2; wheezy: 0.5.63-2 |
| 19:09.47 | Ney | and the update is essential only because one of my providers changed source names |
| 19:09.57 | Ney | so my tv info is borked :) |
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| 19:10.12 | Ney | 5.65 is newst on sourceforge |
| 19:10.14 | dondelelcaro | Ney: looks lik the bug is #753570 |
| 19:10.55 | somiaj | Ney: well as dondelelcaro said you can compile the source on your own machine. Complining the source with make && make install (to install in /usr/local) is the simpiest and is acceptable. But maybe /msg dpg uupdate and try to compile your own custom .deb package. |
| 19:11.17 | Ney | ugh, gotta run, sorry. bbiab |
| 19:11.44 | dondelelcaro | d2dchat: you may just be able to backport sqlite against the older version of tcl |
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| 19:26.36 | linuxthefish | why do I get "The certificate's owner does not match hostname" in wget? |
| 19:27.20 | nkuttler | linuxthefish: because it doesn't have a gui that can show you some red danger icon? |
| 19:27.42 | linuxthefish | does https://linuxthefish.net show red danger icon for you? |
| 19:27.51 | somiaj | linuxthefish: sounds like someone is using a certifict for security reasons but it is not being used on the domain it is registered for. This is an additional security safty of certificite authorities. If you trust you are on the right sight it should be okay. |
| 19:28.29 | nkuttler | linuxthefish: no, but i get no wget error either |
| 19:28.35 | linuxthefish | oh |
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| 19:28.46 | nkuttler | linuxthefish: i'd guess you're on stable and use some self-signed thingie with a ca that's included now? |
| 19:28.53 | somiaj | linuxthefish: what weg command are you running? |
| 19:28.58 | somiaj | wget |
| 19:29.06 | linuxthefish | wget https://linuxthefish.net/speedtest-cli |
| 19:29.13 | nkuttler | nope, no error on stable either |
| 19:29.22 | linuxthefish | oh odd |
| 19:29.25 | linuxthefish | oh well |
| 19:29.34 | linuxthefish | curl works fine so it's ok :D |
| 19:29.58 | somiaj | linuxthefish: does using www.linuxthefish.net work better with wget, that is the domain name of the actual cert when I look at it. |
| 19:30.10 | linuxthefish | oh ok thanks |
| 19:30.32 | somiaj | I too don't get any errors, but I'm on sid, maybe there has been a chance in how wget handels certs. |
| 19:30.55 | nkuttler | i get no errors on sid and wheezy |
| 19:31.26 | nkuttler | ah, squeeze bitches certificate common name âbilling.hostwithlinux.netâ doesnât match requested host name âlinuxthefish.netâ |
| 19:31.40 | linuxthefish | oh wtf |
| 19:32.40 | linuxthefish | is that through ipv6 nkuttler ? |
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| 19:33.01 | nkuttler | linuxthefish: no |
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| 19:44.15 | d2dchat | nkuttler, deitarion took me way too long to figure this out by eventually I got it: |
| 19:44.17 | d2dchat | http://askubuntu.com/questions/443379/sqlite-header-and-source-version-mismatch |
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| 19:50.18 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: You're refusing connections on ipv6 btw. |
| 19:50.45 | Ney | ok this make thing is not making (haha) sense to me. I downloaded the source, extracted it, read the readme, and it said to "perl Makefile.PL" - "make" "make install" but i get "make: command not found" |
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| 19:51.10 | Ney | and the perl script runs fine |
| 19:51.44 | jhutchins | Ney: You don't suppose that make is not found because you don't have it installed? |
| 19:52.12 | Ney | well ... now you just make me look silly |
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| 19:52.39 | jhutchins | Ney: Well, at least I helped. |
| 19:52.47 | some-cowbell | We have non-permanent markers for that :) |
| 19:52.53 | Ney | yes, and thank you |
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| 19:53.39 | jhutchins | Ney: There is a build-essentials package that includes all that, but it also includes Toledo, Ohio and several kitchen sinks. |
| 19:54.00 | some-cowbell | , v build-essentials |
| 19:54.01 | judd | No package named 'build-essentials' was found in i386. |
| 19:54.37 | jhutchins | Sorry, build-essential, no s. |
| 19:55.08 | jhutchins | gets his red nose and floppy shoes. |
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| 19:59.00 | Ney | well the make thing seemed to work, now to scramble some data and see if it works |
| 20:00.14 | some-cowbell | Ney, if you installed build-essential you should also have a few C compilers and related utilities |
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| 20:01.26 | Ney | just installed male |
| 20:01.28 | Ney | make* |
| 20:01.52 | Ney | it's a headless nas box, it is not supposed to do anything heavy like compiling really |
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| 20:02.52 | Ney | but it is always nice to learn some new tricks |
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| 20:06.30 | Ney | speaking of tricks, i want to run a python script like everynight automatically, but i have never gotten around to looking into how |
| 20:06.39 | Ney | any quick ideas on what to google? |
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| 20:07.11 | phogg | Ney: use cron, man crontab |
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| 20:07.28 | formorer | Ney: man 5 crontab |
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| 20:07.57 | phogg | yeah, crontab.5 is going to be more useful |
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| 20:08.43 | Ney | will read up on it, thx |
| 20:09.13 | phogg | Ney: Briefly: '0 1 * * * /home/you/bin/yourscript.py' # run yourscript.py on the 0th minute of the first hour of every day (script must be executable) |
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| 20:12.58 | Ney | and if i need to add arguments to the script? |
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| 20:14.19 | Ney | normaly i run the script "pything grabber.py --out /path/to/xml" |
| 20:14.32 | Ney | python* jeesh fat fingers today |
| 20:14.33 | nkuttler | Ney: you just add them in the crontab |
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| 20:17.38 | phogg | Ney: the only other caveat is that cron jobs run with a restricted environment, meaning PATH will probably only have /bin/:/usr/bin/ in it |
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| 20:21.29 | Ney | so i basically just create a file with whatever name i want in cron.daily and put "0 4 * * * /usr/me/python script.py --args" save the file and et voila? |
| 20:21.39 | Ney | to run the script at 4am every night? |
| 20:21.52 | formorer | no. |
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| 20:22.08 | Ney | see I knew that seemed to easy :) |
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| 20:22.33 | formorer | if you want cron.daily, just drop a script in it. it doesn't accept a timespec |
| 20:22.40 | formorer | cron.daily runs at a fixed time. |
| 20:22.57 | Ney | oh |
| 20:23.03 | formorer | if you want to define a timespec use cron.d |
| 20:23.20 | formorer | but then you need a username to run the script as in the middle of the arguments |
| 20:23.30 | formorer | like: "0 4 * * * root /usr/me/python script.py --args |
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| 20:25.44 | jhutchins | Ney: Files in cron.daily will get run at 1:05 or the time specified in /etc/anacrontab. |
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| 20:26.06 | jhutchins | Ney: A common method is to symlink the script to that folder from /usr/local/bin or wherever. |
| 20:26.19 | Ney | script output that is normally displayed in commandline will just be output to nowhere right? |
| 20:26.26 | formorer | jhutchins: of course only if anacron is installed. |
| 20:26.27 | jhutchins | Ney: email |
| 20:26.45 | jhutchins | formorer: That's the default for wheezy I believe. |
| 20:26.48 | formorer | jhutchins: otherwise it runs at 06:25 |
| 20:27.02 | jhutchins | formorer: For which cron system? |
| 20:27.02 | formorer | jhutchins: no. |
| 20:27.10 | Ney | lets try the cron.d way |
| 20:27.16 | formorer | jhutchins: vixie cron. the default cron |
| 20:27.29 | formorer | jhutchins: 25 6* * *roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) |
| 20:27.37 | formorer | jhutchins: see /etc/crontab |
| 20:27.39 | jhutchins | formorer: Ok, this thing upgraded from etch or lenny so maybe a holdover, but very few distros default to vixie these days. |
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| 20:28.00 | formorer | jhutchins: in fact its debian fork of it. |
| 20:28.19 | formorer | (forked a long long time ago) |
| 20:28.37 | Ney | so i put a file in cron.d, can I check if it is recognised? |
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| 20:29.04 | jhutchins | formorer: Most run anacron or crony, I guess Debian's using a combination of forked-cron and anachron. |
| 20:29.19 | jhutchins | formorer: iirc there's a fork of anachron that will do both jobs. |
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| 20:30.55 | jhutchins | Ney: Run it. |
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| 20:31.16 | jhutchins | Ney: Needs to be executable. Will run as root. Full path names for everything. |
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| 20:37.35 | Ney | think i got it |
| 20:37.44 | Ney | at least i got a simple executable bash script made |
| 20:37.48 | Ney | and put it into cron.daily |
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| 20:38.54 | Ney | and now we will see tomorrow if it has done anything |
| 20:39.24 | heurist | Ney: set it to run in a minute from now and see that works, then set it to the time you want. |
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| 20:41.24 | bob3 | hi - what is the difference between an official debian repository and say debian.net and kernel.org? |
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| 20:44.34 | heurist | bob3: the repos listed in https://www.debian.org/mirror/list are all the same. just spreading the load |
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| 21:06.35 | jthomas | heurist I've recently seen issues where the 'main' repo at "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free" does NOT have any contrib and non-free sections. I've had to add other 'normal' repos to get non-free drivers and whatnotr. Was it just a bad day for me or is that normal? |
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| 21:07.43 | heurist | jthomas: the non-free and contrib stuff is on http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sounds like you just hit bad luck. |
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| 21:08.05 | jthomas | ok good to know |
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| 21:10.12 | junka | hi can i install a package from sid? |
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| 21:11.01 | teraflops | use backports junka |
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| 21:11.05 | heurist | dpkg: tell junka -about frankendebian |
| 21:11.22 | jthomas | into a Stable install? You can try, it may try to pull in a lot of dependencies and cause instability. Generally, mixing releases like that isn't recommended |
| 21:11.50 | junka | heurist: lol |
| 21:12.25 | junka | teraflops: my backage is offered for oldstable backports but not for stable debian :( |
| 21:12.36 | junka | package* |
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| 21:13.09 | heurist | dpkg: tell junka -about ssb |
| 21:13.37 | jthomas | !ssb |
| 21:13.38 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 21:14.21 | junka | it is avalaible in squeeze-backports |
| 21:14.51 | jthomas | but if you're not running that, the 'ssb' tells you how to build a newer version for yourselv |
| 21:14.58 | jthomas | on wheezy |
| 21:15.22 | junka | jthomas: but won't i mix releases like this? |
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| 21:15.53 | jthomas | deb-src will only pull in the source package, and then the rest of those steps walk you through compiling the package to meet your current setup |
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| 21:17.50 | dioz | if i make a bond0 and i set a static... is that untagged traffic? making it default vlan on cisco switches? |
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| 21:19.08 | junka | jthomas: do i have to do the same thing for every new release? |
| 21:20.06 | jthomas | of that package? yeah, those steps are re-compiling the source code into usable machine code; if the source changes your OS won't do this on its own |
| 21:20.44 | junka | jthomas: thanks |
| 21:21.00 | junka | so this is the safest option |
| 21:21.16 | jthomas | yeah |
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| 21:26.26 | _unreal_ | hello |
| 21:26.51 | _unreal_ | ok I'm still trying to get my video drivers working, fresh install debian 7.6 with an ATI X1050 RADEON |
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| 21:27.43 | KM0201 | _unreal_: still? |
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| 21:28.01 | _unreal_ | I just got home |
| 21:28.03 | _unreal_ | work |
| 21:28.39 | KM0201 | you're not using a GUI are you? |
| 21:28.40 | bob3 | is apt-transport-https recommended in general vs plain text repository mirror (i understand they are both gpg signed packages)? |
| 21:28.41 | _unreal_ | SOoooo yes still heh |
| 21:29.11 | _unreal_ | KM0201, prob not |
| 21:29.22 | _unreal_ | I'm trying to keep the install as light as I can |
| 21:29.23 | KM0201 | "probably not"? |
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| 21:29.39 | KM0201 | i thought the ATI driver required X |
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| 21:29.50 | bob3 | btw thnx for previous reply heurist |
| 21:29.56 | _unreal_ | I believe it requires at least xorg |
| 21:30.30 | KM0201 | why are you so concerned again, about having the ATI driver son a command line machine? |
| 21:30.33 | _unreal_ | bob3, apt-transport-https not sure to be honist |
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| 21:31.26 | _unreal_ | bob3, in reality its just different methods to do the same thing depending on needs and desires. |
| 21:31.27 | bob3 | i would think so, but wanted to consult the gurus here, it just seems derth of https mirrors |
| 21:32.24 | _unreal_ | remote vers at the computer its self and different levels of control. |
| 21:33.00 | bob3 | _unreal, k thnx, more ssl traffic the better |
| 21:33.21 | _unreal_ | KM0201, because... I can always off load task's to the video card hardware |
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| 21:33.40 | _unreal_ | like hardware decoding |
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| 21:34.29 | _unreal_ | use the video card to decoded and the CPU to transcode. to devices on the network like xbox and media pc's etc.... |
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| 21:36.02 | _unreal_ | bob3, if there is a better answer to your question I really dont have a strong enough background to give a reliable answer |
| 21:36.57 | bob3 | no, thats cool - https it is |
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| 21:40.08 | _unreal_ | bob3, how's your background on installing video card drivers? |
| 21:40.27 | bob3 | not that great |
| 21:40.32 | _unreal_ | dido |
| 21:40.36 | bob3 | heh |
| 21:40.45 | _unreal_ | I dont have a strong background in debian. |
| 21:41.00 | bob3 | me neither - just kickin tires myself |
| 21:41.02 | _unreal_ | I'm more of a fedora person. so the methodology is throwing me |
| 21:41.10 | bob3 | ah |
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| 21:41.33 | bob3 | coming from da mac side actully |
| 21:41.36 | _unreal_ | I've had more people tell me I should build my media server from debian |
| 21:41.55 | _unreal_ | well if you dib into the console its unix/linux |
| 21:42.01 | bob3 | havent had linux on my macbook since ppc linux circa 90's |
| 21:42.19 | _unreal_ | have you used osx any version? |
| 21:42.28 | bob3 | all and pre |
| 21:42.34 | _unreal_ | ugh..... |
| 21:42.51 | _unreal_ | then you've had a linux like environment. that YOU have just not used |
| 21:42.51 | bob3 | since pre mac |
| 21:43.14 | bob3 | depends on the type of work |
| 21:43.38 | bob3 | just been on the content side for a while |
| 21:43.43 | _unreal_ | naa depends on the needs and the applied uses |
| 21:44.01 | bob3 | ha fair nough |
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| 21:44.29 | bob3 | tried lmde and crunch so far |
| 21:44.37 | linagee | does anyone know when mysql 5.6 might be brought into wheezy or squeeze? |
| 21:44.39 | _unreal_ | lmde and crunch? |
| 21:44.40 | bob3 | but maybe i shouldnt mention that here |
| 21:44.44 | bob3 | hehe |
| 21:45.08 | bob3 | mint debian edition and crunchbang debian distro |
| 21:45.35 | linagee | some time between now and never? :) |
| 21:45.55 | _unreal_ | linagee, I'd check out mysql site or its wiki site for any release date info |
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| 21:46.26 | _unreal_ | linagee, ya just like duke nukem forever |
| 21:46.32 | teraflops | linagee: dont bother to ask such things |
| 21:46.55 | linagee | teraflops: why not? |
| 21:47.09 | _unreal_ | teraflops, could you help with my video driver issue? |
| 21:47.14 | teraflops | keep asking and youll find out linagee |
| 21:47.23 | teraflops | _unreal_: yep |
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| 21:47.26 | _unreal_ | muhahahahahah |
| 21:47.36 | teraflops | _unreal_: use radeon |
| 21:47.45 | _unreal_ | teraflops, ok new install 7.6, radeon x1050 |
| 21:47.57 | _unreal_ | no gui installed just xorg |
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| 21:48.04 | linagee | so I guess it is part of experimental. so its just a matter of experimental -> some dist |
| 21:48.18 | teraflops | unse foss radoen video driver _unreal_ |
| 21:48.21 | _unreal_ | long story short this is a media server computer with MANY TB of storage |
| 21:48.24 | r0x | Hi people |
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| 21:48.37 | teraflops | _unreal_: i use a rpi for that :P |
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| 21:48.47 | r0x | If i install debian 6, i still receive the security updates? |
| 21:48.51 | _unreal_ | foss? know of any good sites with a guided walk threw for install? |
| 21:49.00 | r0x | or any other update? |
| 21:49.02 | _unreal_ | I'm not to the debian side of the force |
| 21:49.07 | _unreal_ | i'm NEW |
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| 21:49.26 | _unreal_ | been a fedora user for years so debian is throwing me a bit |
| 21:49.34 | teraflops | _unreal_: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 21:49.42 | r0x | _unreal_, newbie |
| 21:49.45 | _unreal_ | checking |
| 21:49.54 | _unreal_ | :p |
| 21:50.06 | linagee | experimental -> unstable -> testing -> stable. mysql 5.6 has an endless number of hoops to jump through. :( |
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| 21:50.12 | _unreal_ | r0x, aged newbie |
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| 21:50.44 | _unreal_ | linagee, not really. your hoop depends on your level of stability needs |
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| 21:51.51 | r0x | so? anyone that knows the answer to my question? |
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| 21:52.05 | r0x | i have to go to the bathroom! please! do quickly |
| 21:52.06 | _unreal_ | brake down the pro's and cons of each option and choose what will best suite your needs, mainly depending on what will result if there is a failure after x amount of time. x being rapid or prolonged and un predictable fail time frame |
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| 21:53.08 | _unreal_ | r0x, how about you go to the water closet and look for posted responses apon your return |
| 21:53.37 | r0x | it seems a good idea! |
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| 21:53.55 | r0x | thanks for the answer |
| 21:54.40 | _unreal_ | ok checking posted site from teraflops |
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| 21:57.07 | _unreal_ | ok teraflops rebooting |
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| 22:06.20 | _unreal_ | wow every body go byby |
| 22:06.42 | gtech | For some reason my cron job is being killed mid-execution, would it ever be killed automatically for using too much system resources or running fro too long? |
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| 22:07.22 | _unreal_ | is it causing a kernel panic? |
| 22:07.32 | _unreal_ | or just ending? if its just ending check your logs |
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| 22:09.01 | gtech | I run the command manually and it runs fine, my mail log just says killed |
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| 22:10.43 | gtech | checking execution log... |
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| 22:15.16 | _unreal_ | gtech, anything jumping out at you? |
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| 22:16.49 | _unreal_ | is cron setup as a batch job? |
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| 22:18.06 | _unreal_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:22.07 | gtech | _unreal_: batch job? I wrote it myself, it's worked in cron before |
| 22:22.22 | gtech | and there have been no recent changes to the script or the job |
| 22:22.46 | dym | Hey! I have a machine with a very weird behaviour. It has 2 interfaces: eth0 with 78.46.140.185 and eth1 with 144.76.215.169. Now when i ping 144.76.215.169 from the outside, tcpdump tells me the ICMP requests reach eth1, but nothing is replied. When i went to tcpdump on eth0 i say that the ICMP echo replies were sent through eth0 rather than eth1. What could this be all about? |
| 22:22.55 | gtech | _unreal_: sorry, multitasking really hard, looking at the log now |
| 22:23.33 | _unreal_ | heh |
| 22:24.10 | _unreal_ | dym, is one ethernet and one wifi? |
| 22:24.29 | qman__ | Dym, multiple default gateways with the same metric |
| 22:24.42 | dym | _unreal_: No, it's a vm that has the vmbr's added to itself via 2 seperate if's. |
| 22:24.51 | dym | qman__: just one default gw |
| 22:25.03 | _unreal_ | gtech, if its been working and no changes have been made to your knowladge, I'd wonder if an apt-get update altered something |
| 22:25.17 | dym | qman__: http://pastebin.com/HG3pX1PE |
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| 22:26.09 | _unreal_ | gtech, did you find anything that jumped out at you as the time point where your cron job halted? |
| 22:26.55 | _unreal_ | dym, sorry I dont have much of a background in VM |
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| 22:27.40 | dym | _unreal_: well, it's been working for the past months and now all the sudden it stopped. which is pretty odd. The only thing that changed was the webhosting panel was upgraded |
| 22:27.46 | dym | but that hasnt changed anything routing-wise. |
| 22:28.01 | _unreal_ | did you reboot? |
| 22:28.12 | DanDare | Debian Wheezy says to me that "/etc/init.d/networking restart" is deprecated. What should I use? just "/etc/init.d/networking stop" then "/etc/init.d/networking start" ? |
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| 22:28.26 | qman__ | dym: actually its because you only have one route to the internet |
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| 22:28.58 | qman__ | dym: hosts local to 144.x will work as expected, other internet hosts will not |
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| 22:29.33 | qman__ | dym: you would need to configure it to be dual WAN and multiple gateways and such to work |
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| 22:30.16 | NCS_One | hi |
| 22:30.20 | dym | qman__: well, eth1 has multiple virtual interfaces and also a seperate gateway set |
| 22:30.29 | dym | but i fail to see why it doesnt show up on the routing table |
| 22:30.51 | qman__ | dym: linux does not route that way by default |
| 22:30.59 | dym | qman__: http://pastebin.com/ygb3QBF9 |
| 22:31.18 | qman__ | dym: it must be specially configured to do source-based routing |
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| 22:32.13 | TJ- | dym: see e.g. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 22:32.25 | gtech | _unreal_: the script just ends, I think there shoudl be a stacktrace in the log, I'm checking now to make sure I didn't mess that up in the command |
| 22:32.49 | dym | qman__: TJ-: this is highly odd. the configuration worked for the past months without any special settings |
| 22:32.58 | qman__ | dym: TJ posted the link I couldn't find, and is correct |
| 22:33.07 | gtech | _unreal_: to clarify, no stacktrace was printed which makes me think the process was killed, that specific spot in the script is very memory and hard disk intensive |
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| 22:34.18 | _unreal_ | hum |
| 22:34.34 | _unreal_ | gtech, at this point I dont think I can be much of any help. |
| 22:35.06 | _unreal_ | ! though I would suggest a disk scan? Just incase there may be some data discrepancies |
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| 22:35.46 | NCS_One | I'm mounting a small server for a small web app. I have 2 40GB HDDs (I know, low but its what I have for now), should I configure it with Raid1 and LVM or only LVM? |
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| 22:37.00 | dym | TJ-: okay, one question. $P1_NET - would exactly would that be? the network address? |
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| 22:38.16 | _unreal_ | dym, if its related to VM is self as the issue I cant help. but I have has issues in the past with shared networking. and finding faults due to updates and reboots and appon reboot I found that the networking inishalisation was out of order and causes the worng networking device to be internet source device. that is the reason I asked if you had rebooted after any of the updates. but again if it is a VM its self issue or scr |
| 22:38.16 | _unreal_ | ipting I'm worng and cant help |
| 22:38.24 | _unreal_ | scripting |
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| 22:39.13 | _unreal_ | ugh this keyboard is driving me nuts.... doesn't pick up on key presses at times |
| 22:39.32 | _unreal_ | wireless touchpad/keyboard from logitech |
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| 22:40.08 | _unreal_ | NCS_One, I would NOT raid it |
| 22:40.39 | _unreal_ | NCS_One, what kind of access do you need to the HD? is this high bandwidth? or just a NFS |
| 22:41.11 | NCS_One | its just for 1 office with 34 or 5 users |
| 22:41.21 | NCS_One | s/34/4 |
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| 22:41.41 | _unreal_ | and I would prob NOT suggest logical volume manager. |
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| 22:42.06 | KaaK | can anyone recommend some software/service that can send email notifications based on log contents in real-time or pseudo-real-time? |
| 22:42.23 | TJ- | dym: "Finally, let $P1_NET be the IP network $P1 is in" |
| 22:42.23 | petemc | logwatch |
| 22:42.48 | NCS_One | _unreal_: why not? when that 2 small HDDs go full with LVM I can replace them with bigger ones |
| 22:42.54 | gtech | _unreal_: yeah according to dmesg it was an out of memory error |
| 22:42.55 | _unreal_ | ext2-4 partitioned drives should be fine. if you dont need high bandwidth adding complication would prob be less desired. |
| 22:43.17 | _unreal_ | AHHHH..... |
| 22:43.27 | _unreal_ | ? physical memory or out of swap? |
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| 22:44.27 | _unreal_ | NCS_One, then use lvm, but I would NOT suggest soft raid if your going to be exchanging files often |
| 22:45.07 | _unreal_ | OHOHOH raid 1 mirror drive |
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| 22:45.52 | _unreal_ | you threw me off with raid 1 or lvm is like polar opposites NCS_One |
| 22:45.58 | gtech | _unreal_: I guess I'll have to look at the script and see where it's balooning, the script is calculating on some new data, which might be causing the problem |
| 22:45.59 | cafuego | If it's a server, and you care at all about the data stored, use raid1 minimum. |
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| 22:46.59 | _unreal_ | gtech, not releasing memory or producing a large file by design or in error? |
| 22:47.24 | _unreal_ | cafuego, he threw me off with raid1 or lvm |
| 22:47.25 | _unreal_ | hehe |
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| 22:47.39 | cafuego | is in ur drives, swappin ur bits |
| 22:47.48 | _unreal_ | I'm like do you want 40gigs backed up or 80gigs total |
| 22:47.57 | cafuego | hah |
| 22:48.03 | NCS_One | _unreal_: not "raid1 or lvm" but "'raid1 and lvm' or 'only lvm'" |
| 22:48.13 | _unreal_ | lol |
| 22:48.29 | jmcnaught | LVM actually has mirror/raid1 logical volumes |
| 22:48.30 | _unreal_ | then specify to begin with |
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| 22:49.03 | _unreal_ | that why I asked WHAT is important speed or data integrity |
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| 22:50.02 | _unreal_ | and what kind of data access high volume exchange of data or just stored files. |
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| 22:51.28 | NCS_One | data integraty is important |
| 22:51.45 | _unreal_ | the application of use alone will dictate the best HD setup for your server, unless it needs to be set up with LVM to give you the option of a virtual storage size for future modification by hardware. |
| 22:52.19 | _unreal_ | then raid1 would be the better method. add lvm if you desire. |
| 22:52.37 | cafuego | Step 1: 2 identical size drives (2 different brands) for raid1. Step 2: Put LVM on the raid1. |
| 22:53.09 | _unreal_ | cafuego, thankyou high five |
| 22:53.34 | cafuego | If you can manage, add a third drive to use as a hot spare; possibly a 4th (as large as you can afford) to rsnapshot the LVM data to as local incremental backup. |
| 22:54.02 | jmcnaught | Or take two or more drives of different sizes, put them all in a volume group, create some logical volumes as mirrored, striped or even raid5 or 6 on a LV by LV basis |
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| 22:54.20 | cafuego | Better yet is instead of the 4th, 2 large drives in 2 USB cases, so you have two rotating off-site abckups. |
| 22:54.41 | cafuego | You can easily add a little script that'll run rsnapshot to the external drives when they're inserted. |
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| 22:54.52 | _unreal_ | I was just about to say off site storage in the volume group |
| 22:55.20 | cafuego | It all depends on level of file security, effort and budget. |
| 22:55.38 | _unreal_ | which is the first question I asked |
| 22:55.39 | _unreal_ | lol |
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| 22:55.42 | cafuego | If you have a decent internet connection, maybe a server elsewhere and somehting like bttorrentsync will do. |
| 22:55.54 | _unreal_ | cloud |
| 22:56.08 | cafuego | _unreal_: cloud is subject to third parties. |
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| 22:56.19 | cafuego | (if that's not an issue, S3 is cheap) |
| 22:56.49 | _unreal_ | correct but again that is in direct dictation of the data volatility and integrity needs |
| 22:57.51 | _unreal_ | nice 64gig thumb drives for $12 on line |
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| 22:59.19 | weasel00 | _unreal_: where at? |
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| 22:59.51 | _unreal_ | ebay |
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| 23:00.27 | _unreal_ | http://slickdeals.net/f/6627138-64gb-ultra-usb-2-0-flash-drive-12-after-20-rebate |
| 23:00.41 | _unreal_ | ? wow ebay hehe talk about trained auto responce |
| 23:01.26 | jmcnaught | points to #debian-offtopic |
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| 23:03.43 | _unreal_ | which is lighter lxde or xfce? |
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| 23:05.07 | _unreal_ | I may as well install a gui on this server, ugh. |
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| 23:07.17 | _unreal_ | hum xfce I guess |
| 23:07.22 | KM0201 | _unreal_: i was wondering when you'd come to that conclusion |
| 23:07.30 | _unreal_ | :p |
| 23:07.39 | KM0201 | _unreal_: lxde is good |
| 23:07.48 | _unreal_ | well I installed steam |
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| 23:07.59 | KM0201 | just curioius, why did you switch from Fedora to Debian? |
| 23:08.07 | _unreal_ | I didnt |
| 23:08.21 | KM0201 | i thought you said yesterday you've been using fedora for years |
| 23:08.39 | _unreal_ | my laptop which is my main computer is fedora, my massive server I'm building for media sourcing is debian based |
| 23:08.47 | teraflops | _unreal_: 3dascii? |
| 23:09.02 | _unreal_ | ? teraflops |
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| 23:10.06 | KM0201 | _unreal_: ok.. so i guess the question remains.. why didn't you make your "massive server" you're building, based on Fedora... i'd assume you're comfortable with Fedora since it's on your home system.. thus why i was curious. |
| 23:10.08 | sebastian1 | how is it possible I have a bootlog without bootlogd installed? |
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| 23:12.05 | _unreal_ | because I have had so many people say that a debian based server would be the more reliable |
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| 23:12.32 | KM0201 | well, i agree it would be very reliable.. but i'm not sure i'd call it "more reliable" than Fedora. |
| 23:12.49 | addaitech | i would |
| 23:12.58 | KM0201 | To me, Fedora and Debian are two of the better distros out there... neither ar ereally for noobs, but they're both very good. |
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| 23:13.15 | KM0201 | addaitech: i prefer debian.. but i've never had problems out of fedora |
| 23:13.58 | addaitech | i've never had a problem with debian either that i couldnt fix, even running sid on my main computer |
| 23:14.01 | jmcnaught | sebastian1: what bootlog are you referring to? |
| 23:14.06 | _unreal_ | I run fedora on my main computer because I've had fewer crashes on a dynamic use computer then with ubuntu etc....... and it is just faster hands down. |
| 23:14.08 | KM0201 | used it quite a bit for a few years... while i think RH package tools (yum) are inferior to Debian (aptitude)... i'd say that hardly makes it less reliable. |
| 23:14.19 | _unreal_ | apt-get install xfce4-goodies |
| 23:14.21 | _unreal_ | crap |
| 23:14.26 | KM0201 | everything is faster than Ubuntu. |
| 23:14.32 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: KM0201: #debian-offtopic is a better place to compare distros :) |
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| 23:15.00 | KM0201 | jmcnaught: not really comparing... he just mentioned his fedora experience and i was curious why if he was experienced in fedora, he was putting debian on his server... i like them all. |
| 23:15.31 | jmcnaught | KM0201: still this channel is for support questions, and it's not any harder to chat in #debian-offtopic |
| 23:15.41 | KM0201 | other than he isn't there |
| 23:15.43 | KM0201 | lol |
| 23:16.03 | sebastian1 | jmcnaught: /var/log/boot. It exists on my system, with 2 days of logs. But bootlogd isn't installed, and I can't find it being uninstalled in dpkg logs |
| 23:16.48 | jmcnaught | sebastian1: does /var/log/boot have any dates on/in it? maybe bootlogd was installed a long time ago? |
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| 23:18.38 | sebastian1 | jmcnaught: yes 2 days oct 18-19 of 2013. My dpkg logs go beyond those days, without any removal of bootlogd |
| 23:18.40 | atannus | I fucking love Debian!!! |
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| 23:19.17 | sebastian1 | atannus: ha, me too. I've come in here before just to say that |
| 23:19.21 | _unreal_ | atannus, please love it somewhere else with that kind of language |
| 23:19.48 | _unreal_ | jmcnaught, beat ya to it :p |
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| 23:24.33 | atannus | _unreal_: I'll love it right here, you can cover your eyes if love hurts them. ;) |
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| 23:25.37 | jmcnaught | sebastian1: i don't know. does 'aptitude -F "%C %p" search bootlogd' show it as purged or removed? |
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| 23:28.57 | _unreal_ | Omg that server is so slow....... jmcnaught my server has an athlon x64 3400 and 1.5gb ram, being a media source server only. do you think it would help any if I upped the memory to the max? 3gb or would it even matter? |
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| 23:30.31 | User1 | Hello, I ran the command for Debian from this Github page: https://github.com/HikariKnight/rsu-client/ |
| 23:30.31 | User1 | How can I delete what I installed and remove the PPA? |
| 23:30.53 | User1 | The command is on the github page, I wont copy and paste as it is long |
| 23:31.10 | _unreal_ | User1, pastebin |
| 23:31.15 | User1 | Ok |
| 23:32.29 | User1 | http://pastebin.com/jg6pMas5 |
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| 23:32.40 | jmcnaught | User1: you remove the PPA by editing /etc/apt/sources.list as root. Removing the PPA repository does not automatically uninstall software that you added from that repo though. |
| 23:32.58 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: why are you asking me? |
| 23:32.59 | User1 | Oh yes, I forgot I could do that |
| 23:33.16 | atannus | User1: did you try apt-get remove --purge unix-runescape-client |
| 23:33.20 | _unreal_ | why not.... |
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| 23:33.54 | _unreal_ | you have more experience with debian than I. there for I'm asking for advice. second opinion if you will |
| 23:33.55 | User1 | Atannus: Yes, that doesn't seem to delete it |
| 23:34.10 | atannus | What error does it say? |
| 23:34.21 | User1 | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 23:34.31 | atannus | Then it was never installed. |
| 23:34.49 | User1 | I just clicked on the application and it works |
| 23:34.52 | jmcnaught | User1: did that unix-runescape-client install any thing else? Paste the command and complete output of "apt-get remove unix-runescape-client", but this time on http://paste.debian.net instead of pastebin :) |
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| 23:35.56 | _unreal_ | you could: apt-get remove unix-runescape-client* |
| 23:35.59 | User1 | http://paste.debian.net/113872/ |
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| 23:36.13 | _unreal_ | add * |
| 23:36.28 | atannus | apt-get autoremove |
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| 23:36.51 | jmcnaught | User1: wait! |
| 23:37.03 | User1 | Ok |
| 23:37.23 | jmcnaught | atannus: User1: that list of packages looks like it has big chunks of Gnome including network-manager |
| 23:37.39 | Intensity | Hi. I'm having difficulty understanding the cause of kernel symbol version disagreement errors I come across when compiling VMware tools on Debian. I'm running the same kernel version that I'm compiling for, and yet I find that nearly all symbols disagree on the version number. Even "modprobe --dump-versions" shows agreeing version numbers. |
| 23:37.58 | atannus | jmcnaught: right... maybe he removed another ppa? |
| 23:38.14 | User1 | I haven't removed any ppas yet |
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| 23:38.21 | User1 | Should I just re-install Debian? |
| 23:38.27 | atannus | User1: no, calm down. |
| 23:39.01 | atannus | User1: learn how to fix these things, it's worth it... When you installed, did it take a while or was it quick like a breeze? |
| 23:39.10 | jmcnaught | User1: line #5 of your paste is saying that this package is not installed, but you say it still runs? Maybe the package was itself just an installer that put its files somewhere else? You might need to check with the place you got this unix-runescape-client package for removal instructions |
| 23:39.33 | jmcnaught | User1: Also take a look at this: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian :) |
| 23:39.42 | atannus | jmcnaught: or maybe it's just the application running? Maybe the package doesn't stop it on remove? |
| 23:39.48 | saimouer | Hi everyone. Been battling with trying to get Debian Jessie to install. I'm unable to connect to my wifi during install. I'm given the error "Failure of Key Exchange and Association". This makes no sense to me, because I've installed Debian on this exact same computer many times in the past. |
| 23:40.39 | atannus | saimouer: from what I hear you're not supposed to install jessie unless you're testing the installer. |
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| 23:40.52 | atannus | saimouer: did you try to install stable and upgrade? |
| 23:41.08 | User1 | It doesn't have un-install instructions |
| 23:41.36 | atannus | "Don't make a FrankenDebian" <-- LOL! |
| 23:42.03 | jmcnaught | User1: maybe this runescape game has a linux channel/forum somewhere you could ask? |
| 23:42.21 | User1 | It does, but I can't post on forums |
| 23:42.49 | User1 | They usually require to login, or to enable javascript, cookies or something |
| 23:42.56 | jmcnaught | User1: well the folks here aren't going to know much about a package that isn't included with Debian |
| 23:43.05 | User1 | Fair enough |
| 23:43.27 | saimouer | atannus: No, I didn't. Can I do that? |
| 23:43.51 | User1 | On the "system tools" sub-menu I have an application called add/remove software |
| 23:43.53 | atannus | saimouer: I believe it is the correct way to achieve a jessie installation. |
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| 23:44.03 | User1 | Could I remove it that way? |
| 23:44.14 | atannus | User1: that's just a graphical interface for the package system. |
| 23:44.31 | jmcnaught | User1: that is probably just a GUI package manager woring with the same packages as the command line. The command line already told you that package isn't installed anymore |
| 23:44.42 | User1 | Ok |
| 23:44.45 | User1 | Well thanks anyway |
| 23:44.46 | atannus | User1: the issue is, all those packages in that huge list are not being used by your system, and many of them *should*, which is why jmcnaught told you not to run autoremove. |
| 23:44.49 | saimouer | atannus: Alright, thanks man. I appreciate it. I'll look up how to do that. |
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| 23:45.13 | User1 | Good bye |
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| 23:45.15 | atannus | saimouer: it's quite simple. |
| 23:46.02 | atannus | What I do is install wheezy, then change the ppas to to say jessie instead o wheezy, update/upgrade. |
| 23:46.10 | jmcnaught | simple, but irreversible without reinstalling. and jessie is prone to breaking because it's a development branch that's not finished yet. Wheezy + backports is at least worth a try before jumping to Testing |
| 23:46.11 | atannus | saimouer: takes a bit, but works like a breeze. |
| 23:46.12 | sebastian1 | jmcnaught: hey that worked, shows as purged. Strange that dpkg logs don't show that. |
| 23:46.35 | jmcnaught | sebastian1: purged is also what it would show if it had never been installed |
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| 23:46.45 | atannus | jmcnaught: wheezy + backports? is that a midground? |
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| 23:47.13 | atannus | saimouer: yeah, irreversible is a word you should keep in mind, but if you're trying to install jessie I guess you're adventurous. |
| 23:47.28 | jmcnaught | atannus: well Wheezy is the current Stable release, the one *meant* for end-users and that isn't prone to breaking. Backports has new versions of a lot of major packages |
| 23:47.45 | sebastian1 | jmcnaught: even more strange then since there is a boot log file. Would a virtual machine make one |
| 23:48.00 | saimouer | atannus: Am I really though? I heard Jessie was perfectly fine for pretty much everyone |
| 23:48.01 | atannus | jmcnaught: well, I know that much (stable vs sid) but I didn't know there was an in-between. |
| 23:48.18 | jmcnaught | sebastian1: if this is a VPS then it's possibly left over from however the host prepared the image |
| 23:48.25 | atannus | saimouer: read what jmcnaught said to me just above. |
| 23:48.38 | abrotman | change the ppas .. |
| 23:48.49 | _unreal_ | wow I'm dumb no wonder that computer is slow, no wonder I forget that it was a single core processor |
| 23:49.15 | atannus | saimouer: I use jessie, have used it for about 6 months, it is pretty stable BUT thinks change all the time. |
| 23:49.17 | jmcnaught | saimouer: it's not perfectly fine for just about anyone. it requires you to stay on top of things yourself in a lot of ways, and sometimes it breaks (especially if you're not paying attention or know what you're doing) |
| 23:50.13 | abrotman | marvels that there are nearly 300 QOTDs |
| 23:50.13 | atannus | saimouer: it's not like the os won't boot (though it can happen) but thinks change all the time... So you can't really rely on your sistem to do today what it did yesterday. |
| 23:50.14 | _unreal_ | jmcnaught, testing steam for the hardware support I got an error: opengl glx context is not using direct rendering |
| 23:50.18 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 23:50.19 | dpkg | <jetscreamer> hey isn't there some way to get a 4g file on fat32? like some different version of fat32 or something? |
| 23:50.41 | _unreal_ | I guess my install of the ati drivers is not fully accurate |
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| 23:51.00 | _unreal_ | any suggestions on what I need to do? |
| 23:51.13 | jmcnaught | saimouer: atannus: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#FAQ this is worth a read before considering using Jessie (it applies to Testing as well) |
| 23:51.31 | saimouer | jmcnaught: isn't jessie testing? |
| 23:51.36 | atannus | jmcnaught: I read that before upgrading. |
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| 23:51.58 | rgr | yes it is |
| 23:52.09 | jmcnaught | saimouer: yes, but even though the link says Unstable it still applies to Jessie/Testing |
| 23:52.13 | _unreal_ | 7.105900] platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: agent loaded radeon/R300_cp.bin into memory |
| 23:52.25 | saimouer | jmcnaught: ah okay I misunderstood you |
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| 23:52.37 | threadlock | hi, will you be able to install Jessie/Linux without systemd? |
| 23:52.59 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: you could try asking in #steamlug |
| 23:53.16 | _unreal_ | what???? this is a debian question |
| 23:53.27 | jmcnaught | threadlock: Jessie will have systemd by default, but sysvinit and upstart will still be options |
| 23:53.33 | rgr | wowa. ATI drivers still a pain in the arse? Amazing. |
| 23:53.37 | _unreal_ | I installed my video card driver but I am not getting opengl support |
| 23:53.52 | themill | threadlock: that is likely to depend on what packages you want to install and how well other non-systemd options manage to keep up with providing the interfaces required |
| 23:54.04 | threadlock | jmcnaught: cool, thanks |
| 23:54.05 | rgr | Testing didnt have systemd as the default a short while ago but it was easy enough to enable. It is the default now? |
| 23:54.08 | _unreal_ | you linked me to this and I followed it https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 23:54.18 | atannus | saimouer: are you moving to jessie because of gnome? |
| 23:54.30 | saimouer | atannus: No, I'm moving from LMDE. |
| 23:54.33 | threadlock | themill: uh.. well, I won't be running gnome (depends on systemd now, right? ;) |
| 23:54.44 | _unreal_ | followed with no errors. |
| 23:54.51 | atannus | saimouer: why not Wheezy? |
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| 23:55.11 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: please consider pressing <enter> less :) If Steam is giving you errors, they'll know more about it in #steamlug. Do other 3D games have problems with the radeon driver? |
| 23:55.18 | saimouer | atannus: I suppose because it's significantly out of date compared to my current distro |
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| 23:56.04 | _unreal_ | I cant even get glxgears to run |
| 23:56.54 | atannus | saimouer: well, that's the price of stability... |
| 23:57.06 | rgr | heh. I had that about 8 years ago with ATI. Gave up in the end and moved to Nvidia. Good to see its still as hosed. |
| 23:57.09 | atannus | saimouer: the ground will move beneath you... |
| 23:57.24 | saimouer | atannus: I haven't had a problem with LMDE, which is based on Jessie |
| 23:57.31 | atannus | saimouer: versions of things will upgrade all the time, apis may break... |
| 23:57.55 | sebastian1 | saimouer: there are threads on debian forums on how to manage testing/unstable. If you have maybe a year or two using the shell go for it. |
| 23:57.58 | atannus | saimouer: the ming folks make sure to fix anything that eventually breaks... |
| 23:58.13 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: do you have libgl1-mesa-dri installed? |
| 23:58.20 | sebastian1 | or even dualboot stable and testing/unstable |
| 23:58.27 | atannus | saimouer: sebastian1 told me the same thing about 7 months back. ;) |
| 23:58.41 | sebastian1 | i did? |
| 23:58.46 | atannus | saimouer: yes, definetely dual boot... |
| 23:59.16 | atannus | saimouer: mount /home to a different partition, so if jessie goes mia you can still find your stuff... |
| 23:59.29 | atannus | sebastian1: i believe so. |
| 23:59.41 | saimouer | atannus: oh also systemd |
| 23:59.47 | saimouer | atannus: is another advantage |
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