| 00:00.58 | *** join/#debian Nintendo4DS (Nintendo3D@cpe-69-206-66-179.hvc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:02.50 | *** join/#debian dmi3on (~dmi3on@unaffiliated/dmi3on) |
| 00:04.07 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 00:05.08 | *** join/#debian onitaL (~Lat@pool-173-72-165-184.clppva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:06.00 | *** join/#debian ambuss (ambuss@unaffiliated/ambuss) |
| 00:08.15 | *** join/#debian artinox (~Icedove@athedsl-367285.home.otenet.gr) |
| 00:08.29 | *** join/#debian simpletoon (~kvirc@cpe-174-108-021-154.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 00:08.34 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 00:09.09 | Psil0Cybin | okay it worked |
| 00:09.50 | Psil0Cybin | although it said initramfs unpacking failed: junk in compressed archive, kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown wn-block |
| 00:09.51 | *** join/#debian Zero_Flag (~Zero_Flag@gateway/tor-sasl/zeroflag/x-93430316) |
| 00:10.10 | *** join/#debian ageis (kevin@ageispolis.net) |
| 00:10.28 | mtn | I would hate to see it not work :P |
| 00:10.28 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-99-32-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 00:10.55 | *** part/#debian ancky (~freddyfre@2a01:4f8:d12:1d05::2) |
| 00:11.09 | *** part/#debian simpletoon (~kvirc@cpe-174-108-021-154.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 00:11.28 | *** join/#debian Guest16622 (kevin@ageispolis.net) |
| 00:11.31 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 00:11.51 | *** join/#debian systmkor (~systmkor@unaffiliated/systmkor) |
| 00:12.02 | Psil0Cybin | k mtn i followed https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 00:12.11 | Psil0Cybin | it boots up but i cannot get into the live cd now i keep getting a kernel panic not syncing |
| 00:12.16 | Psil0Cybin | someone says you do not use Cp and instead use DD |
| 00:12.34 | Psil0Cybin | What is the correct method to get this ISo onto a USB and getting it booting properly.. |
| 00:12.54 | *** join/#debian dundel (~daniel@190.98.82.213) |
| 00:13.23 | Psil0Cybin | i guess im going to skip trying the live cd |
| 00:13.23 | mtn | Psil0Cybin: I have used cp and dd, in the way the link says and have never had it fail. |
| 00:13.27 | Psil0Cybin | and just install it and see what happens |
| 00:13.28 | *** join/#debian scanman84 (~scanman84@gateway/tor-sasl/scanman84) |
| 00:13.38 | Psil0Cybin | because i cannot get the live cd too boot i keep getting a kernel panic error |
| 00:14.03 | Psil0Cybin | it did boot successfully using unetbootin |
| 00:14.05 | mtn | Psil0Cybin: though I admit I have never tried the live disk, only the installers. |
| 00:14.14 | Psil0Cybin | but as i can see the grub menu was different, so i will just try to install it |
| 00:14.16 | Psil0Cybin | and see what happens |
| 00:14.44 | Psil0Cybin | now in the installer i get |
| 00:14.59 | Psil0Cybin | there was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM please make sure it isi the drive, if retrying does not work you should check the integrity of your CD-ROM |
| 00:15.01 | Psil0Cybin | i am using a usb though |
| 00:15.05 | mtn | Psil0Cybin: I would suggest you try this: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
| 00:15.20 | Psil0Cybin | failed to copy file from CD-ROM retry |
| 00:15.25 | Psil0Cybin | i am going nuts |
| 00:15.28 | Psil0Cybin | i just wnat to install this OS :( |
| 00:15.30 | *** join/#debian mordocai (~mordocai@75-132-196-42.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 00:17.11 | *** join/#debian lennycz (~lennycz@ip-89-177-132-112.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 00:17.32 | mtn | Psil0Cybin: download the netinstall iso from that link and use the cp command to put it on your usb. then boot off of the usb. |
| 00:25.42 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:25.54 | *** join/#debian ariscop (~Phase4@icookc.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 00:31.57 | Psil0Cybin | okay it worked with dd. from what i did, wierd. but cp and dd did different things with the same strings on sdc. |
| 00:31.59 | Psil0Cybin | not sdc1. |
| 00:32.18 | *** join/#debian gswain (~gswain@71.39.116.1) |
| 00:32.55 | *** part/#debian gellioth (~gellioth@186.77.197.8) |
| 00:35.22 | *** join/#debian teraflops (~teraflops@mysticemporium.cf) |
| 00:36.55 | *** join/#debian systmkor (~systmkor@unaffiliated/systmkor) |
| 00:37.39 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:38.31 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@cpe-071-071-210-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 00:39.00 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 00:39.05 | *** join/#debian GeekMan1222|Desk (~Matt@75-143-252-99.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) |
| 00:39.29 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 00:42.12 | *** join/#debian treaki__ (a139e9bd5c@p54A44698.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:42.38 | *** join/#debian cuppscakes (~cuppscake@cpe-72-177-210-179.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 00:43.11 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 00:45.04 | *** join/#debian zophy (~sy@host-98-218-220-24.midco.net) |
| 00:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1385] by debhelper |
| 00:59.55 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~ridout@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 01:00.44 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~waterlae@71-212-147-70.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 01:02.18 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 01:02.30 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin (~psil0cybi@unaffiliated/psil0cybin) |
| 01:03.05 | *** join/#debian Ard1t2 (~Ardit@109.69.5.21) |
| 01:03.25 | *** join/#debian b1g1r0n (~b1g1r0n@c-24-3-135-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 01:03.49 | *** join/#debian ArsoniK (~StoneHead@modemcable160.150-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 01:05.51 | *** join/#debian bwilson (~bwilson@8.18.203.252) |
| 01:06.04 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 01:06.56 | *** join/#debian digilink (~weechat@unaffiliated/digilink) |
| 01:08.48 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~dayangkun@123.118.216.73) |
| 01:08.53 | *** join/#debian cuppscakes (~cuppscake@cpe-72-177-210-179.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 01:08.57 | *** join/#debian sebastian (~sebastian@gateway/tor-sasl/imadeanamefast) |
| 01:09.05 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@dslb-092-073-144-114.092.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 01:09.05 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 01:10.59 | *** join/#debian erfolg (~erfolg@72-28-182-130-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net) |
| 01:11.09 | *** join/#debian the8thbit (~the8thbit@41.sub-70-195-4.myvzw.com) |
| 01:14.20 | *** join/#debian Al3xG0 (~t7DS@37.221.170.110) |
| 01:14.22 | *** join/#debian Al3xG0 (~t7DS@unaffiliated/al3xg0) |
| 01:14.58 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:18.46 | *** join/#debian anonnumberanon (~anonnumbe@unaffiliated/anonnumberanon) |
| 01:18.57 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 01:19.40 | *** join/#debian jareddlc_ (~jareddlc@64-142-88-9.dedicated.static.sonic.net) |
| 01:20.49 | *** join/#debian micechal_ (~quassel@adlp6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 01:21.24 | micechal_ | I'm on Debian Wheezy, and I need cmake 2.8.10 |
| 01:21.31 | micechal_ | but the latest available is 2.8.9 |
| 01:21.42 | micechal_ | what would be the best way to upgrade this package? |
| 01:22.21 | croddy | backport it by building your own package from the source package from a later debian release |
| 01:22.24 | dvs | ,v cmake |
| 01:22.25 | judd | Package: cmake on i386 -- squeeze: 2.8.2+dfsg.1-0+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.8.9-1~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2.8.9-1; wheezy-backports: 2.8.11.1-1~bpo70+1; sid: 2.8.12.2-1; jessie: 2.8.12.2-1; experimental: 3.0.1-1 |
| 01:22.26 | *** join/#debian bwilson (~bwilson@8.18.203.252) |
| 01:22.45 | dvs | micechal_: wheezy-backports |
| 01:23.07 | micechal_ | dvs: should I add it to my sources list? |
| 01:23.15 | dvs | micechal_: yes |
| 01:23.21 | *** join/#debian cli4life (~Gui4life@71-89-80-63.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 01:23.58 | micechal_ | like this? "deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main" |
| 01:24.08 | cli4life | What is the correct way to restart networking services in debian. Service networking restart just says that it is depreciated |
| 01:25.19 | dvs | micechal_: that'll work |
| 01:25.20 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~ridout@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 01:25.53 | dvs | cli4life: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 01:26.22 | micechal_ | dvs: I added such line to my sources.list but it still says "cmake is already the newest version." |
| 01:26.39 | civillian | micechal_: did you apt-get update? |
| 01:26.43 | *** join/#debian pankid (~pan@c-98-243-38-225.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:26.43 | micechal_ | yes |
| 01:26.43 | *** join/#debian paul0 (~paul0@177.207.222.145) |
| 01:26.58 | civillian | micechal_: after the backport addition? |
| 01:27.06 | micechal_ | yes |
| 01:27.15 | cli4life | dvs: I tried that but changes I make to the /etc/network/interfaces file don't update when I do and ifup up and down |
| 01:27.49 | *** join/#debian paw (~afong@198-48-224-134.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 01:27.51 | civillian | micechal_: could be priorities, not sure what backports gets in apt preferences... |
| 01:28.01 | micechal_ | hastebin.com/ujofalosug |
| 01:28.10 | micechal_ | here's the sources.list |
| 01:28.25 | civillian | micechal_: apt-cache policy cmake |
| 01:29.03 | micechal_ | hastebin.com/ujofalosug |
| 01:29.06 | *** join/#debian santiago_32 (~santiago@r186-49-11-126.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 01:29.12 | micechal_ | so it seems like it "sees" the new version |
| 01:29.22 | *** join/#debian jareddlc (~jareddlc@64-142-88-9.dedicated.static.sonic.net) |
| 01:29.30 | civillian | micechal_: that's the same paste from before |
| 01:29.50 | micechal_ | oh |
| 01:29.54 | micechal_ | http://hastebin.com/lopipoxega.rb |
| 01:29.56 | micechal_ | sorry for that |
| 01:30.00 | dvs | micechal_: Did you use the "-t wheezy-backports" option |
| 01:30.11 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 01:30.32 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin (~psil0cybi@unaffiliated/psil0cybin) |
| 01:30.45 | Psil0Cybin | is it normal for the install to be erasing contents off the hd for like an hr? |
| 01:30.57 | micechal_ | dvs: tried now witht that switch and it seems to be updating something |
| 01:30.59 | micechal_ | thanks |
| 01:31.05 | dvs | micechal_: no prob |
| 01:31.22 | nkuttler | Psil0Cybin: are you using an encrypted partition? or is it a mkfs? |
| 01:31.36 | Psil0Cybin | encrypted |
| 01:31.38 | micechal_ | civillian: thanks to you too |
| 01:31.39 | Psil0Cybin | well i selected that |
| 01:31.52 | Psil0Cybin | that is why its taking a while? |
| 01:32.09 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@host-56.13-234-182.cable.dynamic.kbtelecom.net) |
| 01:32.15 | nkuttler | Psil0Cybin: yeah, that will fill the partition with random data |
| 01:32.21 | Psil0Cybin | okay ty |
| 01:32.30 | civillian | micechal_: you're welcome :) |
| 01:32.40 | *** join/#debian pet2001 (~peter@p548238EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:33.02 | micechal_ | so the software I was trying to run also required newer yasm |
| 01:33.08 | micechal_ | so I used the same command as before |
| 01:33.12 | micechal_ | and it worked too |
| 01:33.28 | rypervenche | Psil0Cybin: You can skip it if you're not worried about your entire being written by random data. |
| 01:33.34 | micechal_ | backports are great and you guys too :D |
| 01:36.05 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 01:39.38 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 01:40.14 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 01:40.35 | *** join/#debian Bluerr (~Blueer@p5B359106.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:40.58 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 01:41.40 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~waterlae@71-212-147-70.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 01:43.05 | *** join/#debian t1tan (~t1tan@c-50-140-163-226.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:43.32 | *** join/#debian tokik (~tokik@122x212x176x138.ap122.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 01:43.40 | rypervenche | Psil0Cybin: Otherwise be prepared to wait for many hours. |
| 01:44.50 | *** part/#debian t1tan (~t1tan@c-50-140-163-226.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:49.36 | *** join/#debian amoise (~amoise@172.56.23.51) |
| 01:50.15 | *** join/#debian Lilian` (~Lilian@gateway/tor-sasl/lilian) |
| 01:50.51 | *** join/#debian aschro_ (~aschro@dslb-094-219-044-243.094.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 01:52.13 | *** join/#debian Wharncliffe (~coffee@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 01:53.22 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@dslb-092-073-144-114.092.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 01:53.23 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 01:54.48 | *** part/#debian teraflops (~teraflops@mysticemporium.cf) |
| 01:55.59 | *** join/#debian syssi_ (~syssi@unaffiliated/syssi) |
| 01:56.56 | *** join/#debian noisyc (~noisy@c-76-123-43-150.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 01:57.07 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 01:57.48 | *** join/#debian junhao (~AndChat74@www19206ui.sakura.ne.jp) |
| 01:58.38 | blackjack | hello. what do i need to install if i want openssl installed? |
| 01:58.52 | *** join/#debian sidmo (~sidmo@p5489CBCD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:59.00 | Psil0Cybin | rypervenche, ill wait many hours |
| 01:59.07 | Psil0Cybin | i already did 2 or 3...might as well keep er rolling all night. |
| 01:59.18 | *** join/#debian Guest53424 (~tcpman@85-220-31-214.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 01:59.26 | *** join/#debian oeitei (~oeitei@109.88.155.203) |
| 01:59.49 | dvs | blackjack: chances are, it's already installed |
| 02:00.09 | blackjack | dvs how do i verify that? |
| 02:00.23 | dvs | blackjack: dpkg -l | grep openssl |
| 02:00.28 | blackjack | coz my znc bouncer seems do not detect it |
| 02:01.06 | blackjack | ii openssl 1.0.1e-2+deb7u12 i386 Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools |
| 02:01.08 | blackjack | ii openssl-blacklist 0.5-3 all Blacklists for OpenSSL RSA keys and tools |
| 02:01.10 | blackjack | oops sorry. |
| 02:01.22 | blackjack | is that it? |
| 02:01.26 | dvs | yup |
| 02:01.30 | *** join/#debian unop (~unop@host86-155-37-155.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) |
| 02:01.33 | blackjack | ok. how do i enable it? |
| 02:01.44 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~ben@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 02:01.54 | dvs | ??? It's up to the program to use it. |
| 02:02.10 | break19 | blackjack: are you trying to -build- znc, or just -use- it? |
| 02:02.18 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@5.18.182.68) |
| 02:02.23 | *** join/#debian optraz (~cyzie@175.139.106.99) |
| 02:02.30 | blackjack | im trying to build znc |
| 02:02.44 | blackjack | i reinstalled my vps again so im kinda like starting in scratch |
| 02:02.46 | blackjack | heehhe |
| 02:02.50 | break19 | then you need to get the -dev files |
| 02:02.56 | break19 | like openssl-dev |
| 02:03.57 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~ben@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 02:04.38 | *** join/#debian comradegarry (~garry@adsl-68-89-137-193.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) |
| 02:05.45 | cafuego | libssl-dev in fact |
| 02:06.24 | blackjack | hmmmm |
| 02:06.31 | blackjack | i should get that before installing znc? |
| 02:06.38 | jaybe | sid/unstable has 1.4-1. just backport it. |
| 02:06.38 | blackjack | the libssl-dev ? |
| 02:06.39 | break19 | cafuego: ah, my mistake |
| 02:07.01 | break19 | I dont actually -use- debian atm. so.. :) |
| 02:09.38 | blackjack | cafuego |
| 02:09.50 | blackjack | should i do apt-get install libssl-dev ? |
| 02:10.00 | cafuego | blackjack: indeed |
| 02:10.06 | blackjack | ok thanks |
| 02:10.30 | break19 | blackjack: if you have to ask that, you're better off apt-get install znc instead. but if you insist on building it yourself, then yes, you'll need to get libssl-dev |
| 02:10.56 | blackjack | i like the newestversion |
| 02:10.57 | cafuego | If you're missing headers (or other files) you can install and use `apt-file'. |
| 02:11.03 | blackjack | aptget's version of znc is way to old |
| 02:11.26 | cafuego | blackjack: If you use a compile dversion you *will* need to compile a new one each time a new znc is released. |
| 02:11.47 | cafuego | blackjack: Best bet is to do a backport. |
| 02:14.38 | *** join/#debian noisyc (~noisy@c-76-123-43-150.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 02:15.30 | *** join/#debian noisyc (~noisy@c-76-123-43-150.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 02:16.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1378] by debhelper |
| 02:16.27 | cafuego | Or realise that you didn't actually need the new features in the new version, if there are any, even. |
| 02:16.35 | rryoumaa | wants jessie to be stable already |
| 02:16.50 | rryoumaa | wrong channel! |
| 02:16.52 | cafuego | "The other version umber is higher" isn't really a good enough reason to bypass the apckage syste, |
| 02:17.23 | blackjack | ok thanks |
| 02:17.49 | blackjack | cafuego after doing apt-get install libssl-dev |
| 02:17.57 | blackjack | it should be working ok right? if i enable ssl on znc? |
| 02:18.08 | blackjack | and if i set it to connect on the right ports |
| 02:18.12 | blackjack | just asking. |
| 02:18.20 | blackjack | i remember doing this, but i just forgot |
| 02:18.45 | *** join/#debian Solo456 (~Solo456@ip70-174-30-37.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 02:18.45 | blackjack | i mean, theres no other thing i need to do for ssl to work right? hmm |
| 02:19.14 | cafuego | blackjack: if you apt-get install znc, ssl will already just work (assuming you configured a cert) |
| 02:19.21 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 02:19.55 | cafuego | I'm using the oldest version in the universe, and that has ssl support. |
| 02:20.58 | blackjack | ok ok |
| 02:21.00 | *** join/#debian hubutm20 (~hubutm20@79.114.23.219) |
| 02:22.37 | *** join/#debian WinstonSmith (~WinstonSm@unaffiliated/winstonsmith) |
| 02:22.38 | *** join/#debian noisyc (~noisy@c-76-123-43-150.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 02:22.39 | jaybe | (better off ssh-tunneling to it anyway) |
| 02:24.47 | *** join/#debian rmdashrf (~rmdashrf@unaffiliated/rmdashrf) |
| 02:26.02 | *** join/#debian okee (~Okee@50-0-108-248.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 02:26.45 | okee | Does anyone know what the name of the file is called, for the Java plugin runtime? I am trying to get a plugin that will work in the chat area of web based irc (see ircsearch.com) |
| 02:27.19 | blackjack | what is the chmod level of a user on ~ ? |
| 02:27.27 | blackjack | by default |
| 02:27.31 | blackjack | i kinda set it up wrongly |
| 02:27.59 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 02:29.02 | *** join/#debian CeBe2 (~CeBe@port-92-206-10-19.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 02:29.11 | *** join/#debian CeBe3 (~CeBe@port-92-206-10-19.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 02:29.30 | noisyc | pulseaudio 'refused to start/autospawn', so I deleted my pulse cookies, checked my default.pa, and rebooted, but I'm still getting the same error. |
| 02:29.48 | noisyc | blackjack: should be drwxr-xr-x |
| 02:29.56 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:30.18 | *** join/#debian nintendo3DS (Nintendo3D@cpe-69-206-66-179.hvc.res.rr.com) |
| 02:31.25 | *** part/#debian cli4life (~Gui4life@71-89-80-63.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 02:31.40 | *** join/#debian Scar3cr0w (~Scar3cr0w@173-13-173-53-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 02:32.43 | *** join/#debian traph (~traph@unaffiliated/traph) |
| 02:35.01 | *** join/#debian Skaag (~skaag@ip-64-134-17-216.public.wayport.net) |
| 02:35.45 | okee | Anyone alive and BREATHING??? |
| 02:36.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1371] by debhelper |
| 02:36.14 | onitaL | depends |
| 02:36.45 | *** join/#debian vimel (~vimel@unaffiliated/vimel) |
| 02:38.27 | break19 | is holding his breath. |
| 02:39.29 | okee | break19> What's the deal with openjdk-7-jre? It is installed, and the following irc channel doesn't recognize it in Firefox: http://searchirc.com/javachat.php?c=Yml0Y29pbi1kZXY&p=NjY2Nw&n=NDQ0NQ&nick=okee&s=d2ViZXIuZnJlZW5vZGUubmV0&Submit=Connect |
| 02:39.48 | okee | Do I need the Sun Java? Or am I doing something wrong? |
| 02:40.12 | okee | I get an error message on my screen, indicating a plugin is needed to display this content. |
| 02:40.18 | raSter^ | noisyc, the only numbers that i tinker of was chmod 644 and chmod 711 |
| 02:40.28 | raSter^ | for ~ |
| 02:40.30 | break19 | okee: you need the plugin that links the jre to firefox. |
| 02:40.30 | themill | okee: you'd need icedtea-7-plugin |
| 02:40.33 | break19 | ^ |
| 02:40.48 | okee | themill> Thanks, I would have never guessed. |
| 02:40.58 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 02:41.22 | break19 | okee: the jre, by itself, is just a java engine. it will run any .jar files you tell it to... but to make a web browser use that engine, you need a plugin. |
| 02:41.30 | break19 | okee: to simplify the explanation a bit :) |
| 02:41.50 | *** join/#debian SofS_ (~SofS@unaffiliated/sofs) |
| 02:41.58 | okee | themill> I get an error message indicating that icedtea-7-plugin depends on 1.4.3~deb7u2, but 1.4.2-1 is to be installed. |
| 02:42.43 | *** join/#debian wulong710 (~andrew@119.139.168.246) |
| 02:42.55 | themill | okee: sounds like you're missing an apt-get upgrade |
| 02:43.17 | okee | the mill> apt-get upgrade? How so? |
| 02:43.41 | noisyc | raSter^: 755 (rwxr-xr-x) should be default, though 711 (rwx--x--x) should be ok too |
| 02:43.53 | themill | with only half the actual message, I'm left guessing. paste.debian.net works... |
| 02:44.36 | okee | themill> Do I need to uninstall open jdk as a condition of installing icedtea? |
| 02:45.46 | *** join/#debian rooferdave (~dad@66-87-137-170.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 02:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1359] by debhelper |
| 02:46.25 | *** join/#debian brianherman (~brianherm@c-73-36-224-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:46.31 | themill | no |
| 02:46.42 | *** join/#debian finlstrm (~quassel@ip68-0-223-26.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 02:47.06 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 02:47.19 | okee | If I am understanding the error message correctly, icedtea needs an earlier version of icedtea-netx. I just uinstalled icedtea-netx. |
| 02:47.44 | themill | it really would be easier if you'd actually show the full error message. |
| 02:50.28 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:51.25 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 02:52.03 | noisyc | pulseaudio 'refused to start/autospawn', so I deleted my pulse cookies, checked my default.pa, and rebooted, but I'm still getting the same error. Anything else I could try? |
| 02:52.10 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 02:53.52 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@244-79-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 02:53.56 | *** join/#debian capiira (~capiira@p50897F72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:54.11 | *** join/#debian Shock255 (~Shock126@172-8-92-59.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:54.12 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@cpe-071-071-210-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 02:55.21 | okee | Well I tried fixing some of the dependency problems, and was able to get iicedtea-7-plugin to install, but the java runtime still doesn't work in Firefox. |
| 02:55.43 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:6cde:3405:3cad:443b) |
| 02:56.10 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 02:57.37 | *** join/#debian the8thbit (~the8thbit@204.sub-70-195-0.myvzw.com) |
| 03:00.57 | *** join/#debian sssilver_ (~sssilver@99-47-180-251.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:02.59 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 03:03.23 | *** join/#debian paw (~afong@198-48-224-134.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 03:05.11 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 03:05.42 | *** join/#debian koderok (~koderok@117.96.7.171) |
| 03:06.39 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 03:07.31 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@host-78-144-141-143.as13285.net) |
| 03:09.12 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~waterlae@173-14-29-54-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 03:09.14 | *** join/#debian mixomathoze (~mixomatho@139.39-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 03:09.57 | noisyc | pulseaudio 'refused to start/autospawn', so I deleted my pulse cookies, checked my default.pa, and rebooted, but I'm still getting the same error. Anything else I could try? |
| 03:11.03 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 03:11.09 | break19 | noisyc: sorry, i dont use pulse |
| 03:11.13 | *** join/#debian Bluerr (~Blueer@p5B35B1B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:11.41 | onitaL | wild guess. /etc/init.d/gdm stop && /etc/inid.d/udev restart && /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 03:11.43 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 03:12.03 | noisyc | break19: what do you use? |
| 03:12.25 | *** join/#debian snuffeluffegus (~snuffeluf@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845) |
| 03:12.48 | noisyc | onitaL: I don't use gdm, but I could try restarting udev and slim. Should I give it a go? |
| 03:12.55 | onitaL | yes |
| 03:12.57 | break19 | noisyc: depends on the system i'm on. but usually just pure alsa on linux systems |
| 03:13.03 | onitaL | ^ |
| 03:13.26 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip72-210-77-104.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 03:15.26 | *** join/#debian T0rch (~T0rch@187.20.225.90) |
| 03:15.55 | *** join/#debian ageis (kevin@ageispolis.net) |
| 03:16.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1365] by debhelper |
| 03:16.38 | noisyc | onitaL: I tried it, but no luck. Same error message. |
| 03:17.07 | *** join/#debian Ratboy (~ratboy@essn-5d8393e8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 03:17.17 | onitaL | ah, sorry. I also use alsa |
| 03:17.31 | noisyc | worth a shot |
| 03:17.53 | okee | Well IcedTea-Web plugin has crashed...... |
| 03:18.19 | okee | Now I get an error message that an exception has occurred. |
| 03:18.26 | onitaL | on what browser? |
| 03:18.35 | onitaL | oh |
| 03:19.27 | *** join/#debian avshalom (~brown@c-24-12-215-229.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:21.14 | *** join/#debian cheetah2 (~cheetah2@181.51.254.116) |
| 03:21.31 | *** join/#debian the8thbit (~the8thbit@204.sub-70-195-0.myvzw.com) |
| 03:21.50 | *** join/#debian simpleirc1 (~cheetah2@181.51.254.116) |
| 03:21.59 | okee | Is there an alternative to iced-Tea? It looks like Iced-Tea doesn't work: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Iced+Tea+Plugin+for+Firefox+and+Debian+Linux+crashes |
| 03:22.44 | onitaL | try with iceweasel? |
| 03:25.29 | mikey | okee: you can install the actual java plugins. |
| 03:25.35 | mikey | it'll require a little effort. |
| 03:25.48 | mikey | s/actual/oracle |
| 03:25.51 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 03:26.16 | themill | okee: your applet works just fine with icetea |
| 03:26.26 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@vutral.net) |
| 03:26.26 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 03:26.56 | *** join/#debian O00O (~O00O@unaffiliated/zz0) |
| 03:27.03 | okee | themill> Huh? It says there are errors, and it will not load....... And there are innumerable reports on the net about this. |
| 03:27.24 | *** join/#debian Pupuser (~puppy@118.97.95.28) |
| 03:27.25 | okee | http://www.linuxine.com/story/iced-tea-web-plugin-crashes |
| 03:27.27 | themill | there are errors.... |
| 03:27.59 | themill | I don't care about what random hits you might find for what other people may have experienced with a different applet with a different version of the java plugin. |
| 03:30.04 | *** join/#debian Harkenn (~Cryp71c@c-69-180-225-23.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 03:30.18 | Harkenn | sid packages are unstable ones? |
| 03:30.32 | onitaL | yes |
| 03:30.37 | Harkenn | thanks |
| 03:30.39 | *** part/#debian Harkenn (~Cryp71c@c-69-180-225-23.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 03:30.39 | themill | Harkenn: sid is the codename for the unstable release. |
| 03:31.21 | *** join/#debian day (~day@p5080E9F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:31.53 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@gateway/tor-sasl/guampa) |
| 03:32.39 | okee | What is the file name of the oracle jre? |
| 03:33.47 | *** join/#debian safridzal (~aragorn@114.79.17.120) |
| 03:33.56 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 03:34.08 | okee | Looks like a lot of people have problems with Java/icedtea plugin: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=60150 |
| 03:34.21 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 03:34.48 | *** join/#debian ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@unaffiliated/archduker) |
| 03:35.25 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~dayangkun@101.78.195.61) |
| 03:35.27 | themill | okee: do you actually want our help? |
| 03:35.45 | okee | themill> How did you guess? |
| 03:36.22 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@177.158.103.11) |
| 03:36.23 | *** join/#debian ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@unaffiliated/archduker) |
| 03:36.29 | themill | It's hard to tell because you never actually provide answers to the questions you are asked. |
| 03:37.38 | okee | Wizard of Oz> what is your question? |
| 03:37.38 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.134.227) |
| 03:38.19 | themill | My crystal ball is rusty and I can't see your screen. If you want me to guess what's wrong, you might have to actually tell me what "there are errors" means. |
| 03:39.59 | *** join/#debian DividedByZero (~usr@cm56-159-73.liwest.at) |
| 03:41.39 | *** join/#debian fstd_ (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 03:41.46 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 03:43.41 | *** join/#debian catpigger (~catpig@p54BD6E90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:44.03 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 03:44.30 | okee | I tried to download the Oracle JRE, and received a 404 missing message: https://www.oracle.com/technology/software/index.html |
| 03:44.51 | okee | The world is doomed; no plugin, no chat. I am completely depressed. |
| 03:45.26 | *** part/#debian comradegarry (~garry@adsl-68-89-137-193.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) |
| 03:45.53 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 03:46.16 | *** join/#debian mindstorm (~mindstorm@ip70-170-43-111.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 03:46.17 | *** join/#debian afei418 (~yaaic@112.97.38.74) |
| 03:46.24 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 03:46.51 | *** join/#debian d0liver (440079d6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.0.121.214) |
| 03:48.03 | d0liver | Where can I get a net install of debian Jessie? Alternatively, how do I get support for Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 on wheezy? The installer isn't detecting the network card so I can't finish the installation. Any help is appreciated. |
| 03:48.57 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-74-115.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:50.00 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~CrazyEddy@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 03:50.38 | themill | d0liver: the first beta of the installer was released a couple of days ago: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 03:50.50 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:8993:9251:6f7e:5bb) |
| 03:51.46 | themill | d0liver: alternatively, the kernel from backports.debian.org supports that chipset -- you could copy the necessary files over using a usb stick |
| 03:52.50 | d0liver | themill, I'm going to try the installer. Thanks for the help. |
| 03:53.29 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~Rodrigo@pdpc/supporter/active/arduguy) |
| 03:53.42 | okee | Installing Oracle SDK is not so easy either, and I received innumerable error message indicating I had dependency problems. I tried working through the dependencies one by one, but then ended up with a file that said it couldn't be installed, so I wasn't able to fix the dependency problem. |
| 03:54.24 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 03:54.53 | themill | You'll struggle to find people to help you install oracle java when openjdk-7 is in debian and doesn't have any dependency problems. |
| 03:57.00 | *** join/#debian jimbohertz (~quassel@modemcable062.153-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:57.55 | *** join/#debian dotDeb (~dotDeb@unaffiliated/dotdeb) |
| 04:01.49 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-152-210-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:03.19 | *** join/#debian mdim (~user@c-98-202-96-222.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 04:04.32 | *** join/#debian wolrah_ (~wolrah@24.239.210.140) |
| 04:04.59 | *** part/#debian okee (~Okee@50-0-108-248.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 04:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1358] by debhelper |
| 04:06.58 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~Ardit@109.69.5.21) |
| 04:06.59 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~Ardit@unaffiliated/ard1t) |
| 04:07.54 | *** join/#debian safridzal (~aragorn@114.79.16.120) |
| 04:09.35 | mns_ | How do I swap capslock and ctrl so that it is swapped whether I'm on console or gui ? |
| 04:12.33 | *** join/#debian moveax3 (~moveax3@46.165.12.227) |
| 04:13.47 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 04:14.01 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.217.163) |
| 04:14.40 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@188.120.148.104) |
| 04:16.49 | *** join/#debian Skaag (~skaag@ip68-5-251-50.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 04:16.51 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@34.sub-174-250-213.myvzw.com) |
| 04:18.28 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@y213083.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 04:19.01 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@188.120.148.104) |
| 04:19.46 | *** join/#debian greyscale (~quassel@quentin.thru.io) |
| 04:20.43 | sithfm | what is the recommended JRE to run with wheezy |
| 04:21.13 | *** join/#debian sssilver_ (~sssilver@99-47-180-251.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:21.16 | sithfm | since oracle's license prevents inclusion in the official debian distribution for dfsg compliance |
| 04:21.41 | sithfm | dpkg_: java |
| 04:23.22 | sithfm | also, i think 'sql server' in tasksel is postgres now by default in debian-installer and not mysql is this the case? |
| 04:23.33 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:a17e:173a:c4df:1761) |
| 04:23.35 | *** join/#debian idstam (~yG9iywoq3@c-e97172d5.027-359-73746f23.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 04:24.54 | *** join/#debian ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@unaffiliated/archduker) |
| 04:25.25 | *** join/#debian joj (~joj@unaffiliated/joj) |
| 04:25.32 | *** join/#debian yanger (~yanger@unaffiliated/yanger) |
| 04:25.37 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 04:26.51 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 04:27.41 | yanger | hi. trying to run debian 64bit wheezy xfce4 teamviewer9 headless. if i plug the hdmi in, teamviewer works, but if i boot with no hdmi, seems like it won't startup anymore.. [teamviewer shows it's online, but can't connect.] plugging the hdmi back in, i see a blackscreen, terminal |
| 04:28.52 | *** join/#debian mpmc (~mpmc@unaffiliated/mpmc) |
| 04:29.01 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 04:29.56 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:30.40 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-152-210-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:32.22 | *** join/#debian sssilver_ (~sssilver@99-47-180-251.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:33.38 | *** join/#debian whiterice (~poeticrpm@rrcs-71-42-179-100.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 04:37.29 | *** join/#debian atyoung (~atyoung@gateway/tor-sasl/darkwurm) |
| 04:38.01 | *** join/#debian xtor (~extor@198.50.143.188) |
| 04:38.44 | xtor | Is there any way to install pico in debian? It doesn't seem to have the package any more and someone wanted it. |
| 04:39.57 | *** join/#debian innmalint (~innmalint@ip68-97-4-130.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 04:42.33 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 04:44.15 | *** join/#debian kapo (~kapo@it.l4n.it) |
| 04:48.33 | *** join/#debian Hurtz (~Hurtz@p4FFCB671.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:50.14 | *** join/#debian drone (~wat@unaffiliated/drone) |
| 04:50.32 | drone | Anyone ever see GPG errors when trying to apt-get update: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1587841717 |
| 04:50.40 | drone | my sources.list looks fine, and my apt-key list looks fine |
| 04:52.47 | *** join/#debian iliv (~iliv@91.214.131.127) |
| 04:53.06 | *** join/#debian idstam (~yG9iywoq3@c-e97172d5.027-359-73746f23.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 04:54.11 | *** part/#debian innmalint (~innmalint@ip68-97-4-130.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 04:55.30 | O00O | hi all... whats the problem with authorized_keys on debian 7.5? |
| 04:55.43 | dotDeb | tips on upgrading to jessie from wheezy? |
| 04:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1350] by debhelper |
| 04:56.43 | O00O | im allways use the ssh-keygen on my notebooks... and now im trying to make a new key and cant conncert... |
| 05:00.03 | *** join/#debian Lilian (~Lilian@gateway/tor-sasl/lilian) |
| 05:01.39 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~waterlae@206-124-6-140.denver.dsl.forethought.net) |
| 05:02.45 | *** join/#debian sandman2 (~z@71-13-140-45.static.ftbg.wi.charter.com) |
| 05:05.11 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 05:07.40 | *** join/#debian BarthezZ` (~BarthezZ@ip51cd391a.speed.planet.nl) |
| 05:08.09 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.217.163) |
| 05:09.20 | *** join/#debian zz_unglid (~unglid@83.240.200.90) |
| 05:11.01 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD62147.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:11.15 | *** join/#debian sssilver_ (~sssilver@99-47-180-251.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:12.30 | *** join/#debian SquirrelCZECH (~squirrel@ip-89-103-45-17.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 05:13.03 | *** join/#debian meek_geek (~meek_geek@gateway/tor-sasl/meekgeek/x-51922446) |
| 05:17.01 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r_ (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:a17e:173a:c4df:1761) |
| 05:17.21 | *** join/#debian sharky (~sharky@lak-39-124.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) |
| 05:18.58 | *** join/#debian azizLIGHT (~azizLIGHT@unaffiliated/azizlight) |
| 05:19.15 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 05:20.01 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@business-86-101-180-92.business.broadband.hu) |
| 05:20.12 | *** join/#debian joelsmith (~joelsmith@162.243.9.37) |
| 05:21.45 | *** join/#debian anoy1 (~Thunderbi@107.170.193.130) |
| 05:22.10 | *** join/#debian anoy1 (~Thunderbi@107.170.193.130) |
| 05:23.26 | *** join/#debian heurist (~heurist@unaffiliated/heurist) |
| 05:24.49 | *** join/#debian GarethTheGreat (~gareth@unaffiliated/gareththegreat) |
| 05:25.57 | *** join/#debian traph (~traph@unaffiliated/traph) |
| 05:29.07 | *** join/#debian meek_geek (~meek_geek@gateway/tor-sasl/meekgeek/x-51922446) |
| 05:29.43 | *** join/#debian eanyx (~olivier@2a01:e35:8b2f:df10:810b:ac58:902a:b9ad) |
| 05:29.45 | *** join/#debian ilk (~sysadmin@99-194-168-166.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 05:30.04 | *** join/#debian MaekSo (~MaekSo@107.170.228.92) |
| 05:30.56 | *** join/#debian istsehrgut (~istsehrgu@216.160.84.199) |
| 05:31.10 | *** join/#debian doev (~doev@p5B02CDDE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:31.12 | *** join/#debian Dry_Lips (~cuneiform@unaffiliated/dry-lips/x-3531376) |
| 05:31.22 | *** join/#debian Solution-X|AFK (~Derp@173-14-222-85-Atlanta.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 05:32.16 | *** join/#debian simulq (~joaquim@pool-108-50-162-252.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:33.48 | *** join/#debian Bwithmore14 (~Bwithmore@222.127.85.242) |
| 05:34.53 | shal3r | Is it possible to setup grub on GPT partitions with software raid1? |
| 05:36.08 | *** join/#debian indyend (~indyend@49.48.55.100) |
| 05:37.04 | *** join/#debian fatih (~Fatih`@78.186.36.182) |
| 05:37.31 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 05:38.46 | *** join/#debian mishal (~Miranda@228.34.broadband9.iol.cz) |
| 05:39.38 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@5.18.182.68) |
| 05:40.35 | *** join/#debian Faisal (~IRCSHOARE@212.17.34.54) |
| 05:41.13 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#debian hellangel7 (~hellangel@117.192.190.189) |
| 05:42.08 | *** join/#debian hellangel7 (~hellangel@117.192.190.189) |
| 05:42.14 | *** join/#debian SrvK (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/srvk) |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:42.59 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-457f51c5.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:43.25 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 05:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1356] by debhelper |
| 05:47.14 | *** join/#debian Plasmastar (Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) |
| 05:47.20 | *** join/#debian cybrNaut (cybrNaut@2001:0:53aa:64c:30be:d0d9:bcca:66c4) |
| 05:47.43 | *** join/#debian amoise (~amoise@172.56.22.92) |
| 05:47.54 | *** join/#debian testi (~quassel@adsl-62-167-38-209.adslplus.ch) |
| 05:48.21 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@90.sub-174-250-208.myvzw.com) |
| 05:49.20 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 05:50.05 | *** join/#debian Sauvin (~Savinus@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 05:50.24 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 05:51.40 | *** join/#debian r420r (~r420r@unaffiliated/r420r) |
| 05:54.04 | *** join/#debian jiku (~jiku@1.22.175.229) |
| 05:54.39 | *** join/#debian cynfor (~cynfor@unaffiliated/cynfor) |
| 05:54.45 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.233.171.159) |
| 05:54.45 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 05:54.53 | *** join/#debian Santiago (~IceChat9@adsl-67-114-9-201.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:55.00 | Santiago | Hello people |
| 05:55.02 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@y213083.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 05:55.16 | Santiago | I have a question about MX |
| 05:55.22 | amoise | My memory's rusty... when building a .deb, how do I make it a debug version? "export DPKG_BUILDFLAGS='debug nostrip'" is what my memory says... |
| 05:56.01 | Santiago | I can send mail, but not recieve |
| 05:56.36 | Santiago | anyone? |
| 05:56.48 | civillian | Santiago: that's 4 statements without a question |
| 05:57.35 | amoise | DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug,nostrip ah yes I am remembering |
| 05:58.03 | *** join/#debian fusmu (~fusmu@gate.dpc.bg) |
| 05:58.04 | *** join/#debian Rikairchy (~Rik@2a01:7a0:10:151:236:17:48:1) |
| 05:58.11 | Santiago | oh, sorry civilian ...Here is the question... How do i set up my MX server, so that when I send myself from gmail or any other mail service, I can recieve it on my domain? |
| 05:58.42 | *** join/#debian KyokoDebian (4d4da301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.77.163.1) |
| 05:58.44 | *** part/#debian KyokoDebian (4d4da301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.77.163.1) |
| 05:59.13 | *** join/#debian eniac_petrov_ (~quassel@91.196.224.231) |
| 05:59.38 | civillian | Santiago: Do you have the MX record setup? |
| 06:00.30 | Santiago | civillian : I am looking at the control panel of my hosting service, and it has a slot for MX record, is that what you were asking? |
| 06:01.23 | *** join/#debian Hennek (Hennek@ip-83-134-135-172.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 06:01.25 | civillian | Santiago: a domain must have an MX record to receive mail |
| 06:01.26 | Santiago | civillian : I can give you my domain name, you can dig it for my MX, hopefully that will be easier. |
| 06:01.38 | civillian | Santiago: probably not the best idea |
| 06:02.08 | civillian | Santiago: just check that the MX record points to the server willing to receive the mail |
| 06:02.23 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.207) |
| 06:02.36 | Santiago | civillian, ok, you are right. I was hosting my site and had recieved my domain from Godaddy, I now have mocved my site to linode, but, my domain is on godaddy. |
| 06:02.40 | *** join/#debian kriger (~norge@71-90-14-51.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) |
| 06:02.44 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@cpe-071-071-210-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 06:02.45 | Santiago | I set up a mail server on linode. |
| 06:02.58 | civillian | ok |
| 06:03.13 | Santiago | Now the issue is, I am not sure, how to go about doing the MX record thing. |
| 06:03.16 | *** join/#debian osfd_home (~olivier@mar44-6-78-238-152-140.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:03.36 | Santiago | I understand that, an MX record is needed for emails to be sent to my server. |
| 06:03.59 | Santiago | These emails originate from outside (not localhost) servers; |
| 06:04.18 | *** join/#debian abll (~abll@comp-nbabll.imm.dtu.dk) |
| 06:04.26 | civillian | Santiago: does your MX record point to your linode host? |
| 06:04.27 | Santiago | thats about it |
| 06:04.59 | Santiago | civillian : No it does not |
| 06:05.16 | Santiago | When I do a dig, this is all i am getting back: |
| 06:05.24 | Santiago | <domain name> IN MX |
| 06:05.27 | Santiago | thats it |
| 06:05.49 | Santiago | actually, ignore what I said, because all lines that I get back are commented. |
| 06:06.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1363] by debhelper |
| 06:06.06 | civillian | ok, so setup an MX record |
| 06:06.31 | Santiago | ok, and I should do that on my linode server, right? since my mail server resides there? |
| 06:06.45 | *** join/#debian wulong710 (~andrew@183.11.254.179) |
| 06:06.48 | civillian | Santiago: do it in your DNS hosting panel |
| 06:07.07 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 06:07.12 | Santiago | ok |
| 06:08.36 | Santiago | civillian : This raises another question, the control panel is asking for Mail Sever, Priority, subdomain, and TTL, I understand Priority and TTL, would the subdomain be www.<my-domain.name>.com, and not sure about the mail server |
| 06:09.53 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.177.246) |
| 06:10.08 | *** join/#debian baron_ (~quassel@216-58-107-38.cpe.distributel.net) |
| 06:10.39 | civillian | mail server is the IP address with port 25 open |
| 06:11.10 | Santiago | civillian : thank you, and I apologize for dumb questions. |
| 06:11.39 | *** join/#debian greyscale (~quassel@quentin.thru.io) |
| 06:12.44 | civillian | Santiago: no problems |
| 06:12.56 | civillian | Santiago: subdomain is a confusing one, leave it blank if you can |
| 06:14.42 | Santiago | civillian : ok |
| 06:15.07 | Santiago | civillian : I entered my I.P. for the Mail Server, it told me that, that was not valid. |
| 06:15.42 | Santiago | civillian : Do i need to modify or update my /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 06:17.22 | civillian | Santiago: no, just the MX record. Try using a hostname instead of the IP, it must be a globally-resolvable address pointing to your port 25 host |
| 06:19.20 | Santiago | civillian : done |
| 06:24.53 | *** join/#debian Rikairchy (~Rik@2a01:7a0:10:151:236:17:48:1) |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian bcd (~bcd@albundy.hq.mendix.net) |
| 06:27.26 | *** join/#debian wulong710 (~andrew@183.11.254.179) |
| 06:28.07 | *** join/#debian rmdashrf (~rmdashrf@128.54.162.28) |
| 06:28.07 | *** join/#debian rmdashrf (~rmdashrf@unaffiliated/rmdashrf) |
| 06:29.05 | *** join/#debian kottlett (~quassel@dslb-088-074-000-180.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 06:29.16 | *** part/#debian drone (~wat@unaffiliated/drone) |
| 06:30.56 | Santiago | civillian : how long should I wait, until i can determine if the MX record worked for me? |
| 06:31.07 | *** join/#debian Shock255 (~Shock126@172-8-92-59.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:33.14 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 06:33.14 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@y213083.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 06:37.58 | *** join/#debian Gatis (~gatis@95.68.114.84) |
| 06:38.19 | pfote | Santiago: have you checked if the NS returns it correctly? |
| 06:38.36 | Gatis | What debian distro is fastest? |
| 06:39.33 | rozie | Gatis: what do you mean "fastest"? in typical benchmark they will be pretty much the same |
| 06:39.47 | Gatis | Well |
| 06:39.48 | Santiago | pfote : I checked, but it does not return it correctly |
| 06:39.51 | Gatis | I have slow pC |
| 06:39.58 | Gatis | Graphics are weak |
| 06:40.00 | *** join/#debian vire (~vire@gw.zoomint.com) |
| 06:40.01 | rozie | but if you mean look and feel, probably light window manager will be most important |
| 06:40.14 | Gatis | What is Debian standard? |
| 06:40.20 | rozie | Gatis: can you provide details? what GPU, CPU, how much RAM |
| 06:40.26 | pfote | Santiago: paste your zone file somewhere |
| 06:40.38 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@177.96.115.93) |
| 06:40.38 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 06:40.57 | Gatis | ok. HP Compaq 6715s, 1GB Ram, 128 Integrated graphics ATI x1200, AMD Mobile Sempron. |
| 06:41.09 | Gatis | slow pc |
| 06:41.19 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@5.18.182.68) |
| 06:41.30 | rozie | OK, I see |
| 06:41.50 | rozie | I worked on even slower PC 2-3 years ago |
| 06:42.06 | Santiago | pfote : http://pastebin.com/mKyk8h3G |
| 06:42.10 | Gatis | rozie. ok |
| 06:42.12 | rozie | Debian with LXDE should be OK |
| 06:42.26 | Gatis | alright. What is standard DE for Debian> |
| 06:42.50 | rozie | I mean window manager will be light, but apps... Firefox has its needs ;/ |
| 06:42.55 | *** join/#debian level7 (~quassel@31.44.17.249) |
| 06:43.07 | rozie | probably gnome is standard. but you can switch anytime |
| 06:43.14 | Stummi | rozie, there a lighter browsers than firefox |
| 06:43.25 | Gatis | Stummy what kind? |
| 06:43.34 | pfote | Santiago: thats the dig output, not the zone file :-) .. do you run the dns yourself or have you rented some? |
| 06:43.48 | Santiago | pfote : rented |
| 06:43.55 | Gatis | I just need flash to work and youtube to work. |
| 06:44.05 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 06:44.06 | Stummi | Gatis, look for webkit based browsers, they have less needs than ff, iirc |
| 06:44.09 | rozie | Gatis: check chromium, if you need something faster/lighter |
| 06:44.12 | *** join/#debian debianinneed (~root@c-67-172-139-125.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 06:44.13 | pfote | Santiago: ok, how did you enter the MX then, with some web interface? |
| 06:44.19 | Santiago | yes |
| 06:44.24 | Gatis | ok thanks |
| 06:44.25 | rozie | midori is also good and functional |
| 06:44.46 | rozie | there are some more light browsers, but they don't look "normal" |
| 06:44.58 | pfote | Santiago: guess you have to talk to their support then |
| 06:45.08 | rozie | Gatis: flash can be PITA. it uses lots of CPU |
| 06:45.21 | Gatis | What is PITA? |
| 06:45.28 | Santiago | pfote : Sounds good, I will shoot them an email. |
| 06:45.32 | rozie | pain in the a** :-) |
| 06:45.38 | Santiago | pfote : Appreciate your help, tho. |
| 06:45.44 | pfote | yw |
| 06:45.54 | Gatis | rozie where can i find Debian openbox distro? |
| 06:45.56 | Santiago | Thanks pfore and civillian for your help. |
| 06:46.17 | rozie | it was main reason why I changed my PIII 1GHz 1GB RAM and some old ATI card to new laptop |
| 06:46.39 | rozie | Gatis: don't know what you exacly mean by "Debian openbox distro" |
| 06:46.41 | *** part/#debian debianinneed (~root@c-67-172-139-125.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 06:46.43 | *** join/#debian debianinneed (~root@c-67-172-139-125.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 06:46.50 | Gatis | i mean |
| 06:46.51 | rozie | I'd just use Debian with openbox ;) |
| 06:46.55 | Gatis | yes |
| 06:47.01 | Gatis | How can i use Debian with openbox? |
| 06:47.22 | formorer | install it and use it. |
| 06:47.39 | rozie | apt-get install openbox |
| 06:47.48 | Gatis | hmm on and do what will happen to LXDE? |
| 06:47.53 | rozie | probably you need to choose openbox in your login manager |
| 06:47.54 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 06:47.59 | Gatis | rozie ah ok |
| 06:48.01 | rozie | and probably configure WM |
| 06:48.04 | formorer | your login manager will offer you a different session type |
| 06:48.06 | Gatis | what is WM? |
| 06:48.11 | rozie | window manager |
| 06:48.15 | formorer | at login time you can choose whatever you want. |
| 06:48.28 | Gatis | formorer, aa ok |
| 06:48.39 | rozie | as I said: you can switch DE/WM anytime, no need to reinstall. they are just programs |
| 06:48.47 | Gatis | What's the difference between Debian Openbox and Crunchbang?" |
| 06:48.56 | Gatis | rozie, i got you |
| 06:50.13 | rozie | crunchbag is based on Debian. same as Ubuntu ;) |
| 06:50.44 | Gatis | I mean if i can have Openbox on Debian why should i install Crunchbang? |
| 06:51.09 | *** part/#debian debianinneed (~root@c-67-172-139-125.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 06:51.11 | heurist | Gatis: crunchbang is still debian though, they just make some choices for you on install and change the colors on openbox. |
| 06:51.25 | rozie | you shouldn't! (did you expect any other answer on this channel?) |
| 06:51.39 | Gatis | no :) |
| 06:52.06 | heurist | Gatis: you keep using the debian programs and install stuff from the debian repositories. |
| 06:52.18 | rozie | heurist: no, it's not. they have their own repos |
| 06:53.16 | Gatis | And what's the difference between Ubuntu and Debian? |
| 06:53.20 | heurist | rozie: which are mostly empty and contain their theme and install script, you can not run crunchbang without also using the debian repos (last I checked) |
| 06:53.32 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:53.34 | heurist | Gatis: ubuntu is nothing like debian anymore |
| 06:53.49 | *** join/#debian jtruent (~root@c-67-172-139-125.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 06:54.35 | *** join/#debian dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-5d8491df.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 06:55.47 | *** join/#debian waka (~wakariera@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 06:56.25 | *** join/#debian gnoid (~gnoid@shpd-178-64-233-213.vologda.ru) |
| 06:56.29 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.207) |
| 06:57.18 | Gatis | ok |
| 06:57.32 | Gatis | So i except Debian to be faster :) |
| 06:57.48 | Gatis | expect.. |
| 06:58.14 | heurist | Gatis: the fancy UI stuff that ubuntu does makes it very slow, you can do much the same on debian and make it slow, but that is not the default |
| 06:58.48 | Gatis | Yes Unity for my pc is very slow. |
| 06:58.58 | xiqy | I don't know about that. GNOME is the default in Debian, and it's not exactly lightweight. |
| 06:59.10 | xiqy | Don't know how it compares to Unity though. |
| 06:59.19 | Gatis | I downloaded Debian LXDE |
| 06:59.48 | heurist | xiqy: gnome is only *one* default in debian. |
| 07:00.37 | xiqy | LXDE should give you good performance, but there's no reason Debian w. LXDE should be faster than Lubuntu. |
| 07:00.59 | xiqy | Don't get me wrong, I prefer Debian to Ubuntu, but to say that one is faster than the other is incorrect. |
| 07:01.36 | Gatis | xiqy really? |
| 07:01.40 | xiqy | heurist: Are you saying there is more than one default? That sounds suspiciously like an oxymoron ;) |
| 07:02.02 | Gatis | I came exactly here because someone said Debian LXDE is faster than Lubuntu. |
| 07:02.03 | xiqy | Gatis: really |
| 07:02.11 | xiqy | They were wrong. |
| 07:02.13 | heurist | xiqy: my ox is a moron, but quite smart for an ox. |
| 07:02.13 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 07:02.44 | heurist | Gatis: about the same, probably. |
| 07:03.13 | Gatis | SO difference between Lubuntu and Debian LXDE is apps? |
| 07:03.22 | *** join/#debian dezgot (~dezgot@triad.ece.umd.edu) |
| 07:04.12 | bezaban | and whatever changes ubuntu does downstream, which is a few |
| 07:04.24 | xiqy | I don't know what programs are installed in Lubuntu by default, but I imagine it's similar to standard LXDE. |
| 07:04.53 | *** join/#debian pchero1 (~pchero@109.70.54.56) |
| 07:04.56 | heurist | Gatis: you also get the debian community with debian, you do not with lubuntu |
| 07:04.57 | fusmu | i prefer debian + something rather than [x]ubuntu |
| 07:05.20 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@cpe-071-071-210-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 07:05.31 | Gatis | ir person that likes that i have stuff on my pc i use :) |
| 07:05.55 | Gatis | I mean don't need fancy things |
| 07:05.57 | fusmu | true :) |
| 07:06.23 | Gatis | i use Web Broswer 90% of time |
| 07:06.45 | OpenTokix | I use xfce4 |
| 07:06.50 | OpenTokix | and is very happy with that |
| 07:07.01 | Gatis | that's nice but i have slow pc |
| 07:07.12 | OpenTokix | lxde works I guess |
| 07:07.17 | heurist | Gatis: then get the netinstall iso and chose everything you want, but that is more work than some people want. I have base + 13 + xterm + mplayer + firefox, and that is about it. |
| 07:07.19 | *** join/#debian ekuric (elvir@nat/redhat/x-kksweckwbfmxqlln) |
| 07:07.20 | OpenTokix | Very similiar |
| 07:07.36 | OpenTokix | I have never understood the reason behind "kubuntu, lubuntu" etc. - Just switch your DE? |
| 07:07.45 | OpenTokix | dumbuntu |
| 07:07.46 | rozie | lxde is OK. I use it even on fast computers |
| 07:07.47 | Gatis | OpenTokix, hehe |
| 07:08.17 | Gatis | Yeah i have recently discovered that some people change colors and name make distribution. |
| 07:08.27 | heurist | OpenTokix: it is for those that can not make the switch, it comes pre-packaged, no need for choices. |
| 07:08.31 | *** join/#debian mossman (~mossman@unaffiliated/mossman) |
| 07:08.42 | xiqy | The raison d'être for the *ubuntus are people who want everything configured for them. |
| 07:08.45 | OpenTokix | heurist: It's dumb |
| 07:08.51 | rozie | Gatis: if you need just web browser (and flash), you need to try some browsers (firefox, midori, chromium at beginning) |
| 07:08.58 | heurist | OpenTokix: that's what I said! |
| 07:09.13 | Gatis | rozie if midori and chromium are faster than firefox i should try |
| 07:09.15 | rozie | and probably another important thing will be graphic driver |
| 07:09.17 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny) |
| 07:09.20 | Gatis | Because firefox is pretty slow |
| 07:09.30 | Gatis | rozie i can't have proprietary graphics driver |
| 07:09.30 | *** join/#debian mansson (b92009fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.32.9.250) |
| 07:09.30 | rozie | and acceleration in flash/browser |
| 07:09.31 | *** join/#debian zapotek6 (~zap@176.200.218.15) |
| 07:09.32 | xiqy | There is nothing wrong with wanting that, but once you spend some time with your system you tend to realize that what Ubuntu thinks you want isn't always what you actually want. |
| 07:09.35 | OpenTokix | Gatis: I prefer chrome actually |
| 07:09.47 | heurist | Gatis: but firefox has pentadactyl, so it stays on my system |
| 07:09.51 | mansson | If I want to use KDE4, which debian should I download? Can I use KDE4 in Wheezy? |
| 07:10.03 | rozie | Gatis: consider switching to html5 if possible |
| 07:10.07 | OpenTokix | heurist: but then again, I remember when you did startx and got like "grey checker pattern and a cross" - So... hmmmm this linux thing is HARD! |
| 07:10.18 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:10.32 | Gatis | rozie, how do i do that? |
| 07:10.56 | OpenTokix | mansson: DebianWheezy contains KDE 4.8.4 with KDE PIM 4.4.11. |
| 07:11.03 | rozie | youtube.com/html5 IIRC ;) |
| 07:11.12 | heurist | OpenTokix: I did not use X in those days. |
| 07:11.13 | Gatis | my card supports proprietary driver only for Debian 8.04 Hardy Heron |
| 07:11.31 | rozie | Debian 8.04 Hardy Heron ;> |
| 07:11.32 | OpenTokix | heurist: I switched to debian as my main desktop in 2001 |
| 07:11.44 | Gatis | rozie, i didn't know about html5 thing |
| 07:11.48 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~dayangkun@101.78.195.61) |
| 07:12.05 | rozie | Gatis: not all content is avaliable with html5 |
| 07:12.16 | rozie | there are also tools like minitube |
| 07:12.27 | rozie | but flash is not only YT |
| 07:12.31 | heurist | OpenTokix: I had linux (mainly debian) server, but only made the switch to desktop in 2003, with enlightenment and then awesome. |
| 07:12.42 | *** join/#debian zapotek6 (~zap@176.200.218.15) |
| 07:12.51 | *** join/#debian snuffeluffegus (~snuffeluf@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845) |
| 07:12.51 | mansson | OpenTokix: Ok, so I downloaded debian-7.6.0-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 07:12.54 | mansson | shouldnt matter right? |
| 07:13.51 | OpenTokix | mansson: will probably works - I personally always do netinstall and then install whatever I need after base install. - but that should work, yes |
| 07:14.10 | OpenTokix | heurist: Awesome, I havent gotten my head around - but it looks very nice |
| 07:15.05 | *** join/#debian Alula_ (~filly@gateway/tor-sasl/suhosin) |
| 07:15.32 | heurist | OpenTokix: I am using i3 now, do not have the time to fiddle with awsome or xmonad configs. my awesome config was 373L, 15263C long |
| 07:15.52 | OpenTokix | heurist: wow =) |
| 07:16.00 | OpenTokix | heurist: I just do vanilla xfce4 |
| 07:16.40 | heurist | OpenTokix: and I was bleeding edge awesome too (contributor), so we kept breaking the config. |
| 07:16.57 | OpenTokix | heurist: like a baws =) |
| 07:17.09 | heurist | OpenTokix: I do not use mouse, else I would xfce too, but it is too mouse focused. |
| 07:17.40 | OpenTokix | heurist: sounds like a great aproach |
| 07:17.43 | OpenTokix | approach |
| 07:18.51 | heurist | OpenTokix: i3 works flawlessly (after changing vi-keys over by one bug), but I still keep wanting to go back to xmonad, just no time. |
| 07:19.24 | heurist | OpenTokix: but this is straying far off topic for debian support. |
| 07:19.37 | OpenTokix | =) |
| 07:22.06 | *** join/#debian zapotek6 (~zap@176.200.218.15) |
| 07:22.18 | *** join/#debian koderok (~koderok@223.180.68.15) |
| 07:23.01 | *** join/#debian anoy1 (~Thunderbi@107.170.193.130) |
| 07:24.51 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@unaffiliated/gnugr) |
| 07:25.07 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@p57A08282.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1357] by debhelper |
| 07:26.07 | *** join/#debian mijicd (~mijicd@branko-tmd.ftn.uns.ac.rs) |
| 07:26.17 | *** join/#debian r420r (~r420r@78.165.252.141) |
| 07:26.19 | *** join/#debian r420r (~r420r@unaffiliated/r420r) |
| 07:27.04 | meek_geek | hi |
| 07:28.05 | *** join/#debian zapotek6 (~zap@176.200.218.15) |
| 07:28.41 | *** join/#debian mijicd (~mijicd@branko-tmd.ftn.uns.ac.rs) |
| 07:28.59 | *** join/#debian CrackerJack (~show@84.238.204.59) |
| 07:29.57 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 07:30.17 | *** join/#debian Dreaman (~show@unaffiliated/dreaman) |
| 07:30.24 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 07:31.48 | *** join/#debian acu (~acu@50.244.13.222) |
| 07:31.59 | acu | hello guys |
| 07:32.11 | acu | what is the best command to upgrade from wheezy to jessie ? |
| 07:32.54 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.182.229.7) |
| 07:32.54 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 07:33.02 | acu | !jessie upgrade |
| 07:33.12 | acu | !upgrade from jessie |
| 07:33.17 | Dreaman | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting acu :) |
| 07:33.58 | heurist | acu: bot is down atm, check Dreaman's link |
| 07:34.00 | Dreaman | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:34.16 | Dreaman | but change list jessie |
| 07:34.35 | acu | thanks, wondered whether should use dist-upgrade or upgrade only |
| 07:34.35 | Dreaman | /etc/apt/sources.list replacing "stable" or "testing" with "jessie". |
| 07:34.50 | heurist | acu: also maybe ask #debian-next on irc.oftc.net they are better equipped to answer jessie questions |
| 07:35.01 | acu | and whethere I should use aptitude instead of apt-get (I stopped using apt-get since long) |
| 07:35.19 | Dreaman | apt-get update apt-get upgrade i use jessie with gnome 3.12 |
| 07:35.23 | heurist | acu: they are really much the same thing, use whatever you like |
| 07:35.24 | Dreaman | os[Linux 3.14-2-amd64 x86_64] distro[Debian jessie/sid] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.35GHz] mem[Physical: 3.6GB, 83.6% free] disk[Total: 228.5GB, 39.3% free] video[NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8100 / nForce 720a]] ether[NVIDIA Corporation MCP77 Ethernet] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] |
| 07:37.12 | *** join/#debian goTAN (~goTAN@HSI-KBW-091-089-238-206.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 07:37.39 | themill | !ping |
| 07:37.39 | dpkg_ | Yes, themill you are either online or you are not... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000326 |
| 07:37.57 | themill | ^^ bot isn't down, it just can't answer questions it doesn't know the answer to |
| 07:38.18 | heurist | themill: it is _ though |
| 07:38.28 | themill | sure, but it still works. |
| 07:38.47 | themill | it responds to both ! and 'dpkg' still in the channel. |
| 07:38.54 | heurist | themill: k, was not responding to wheezy->jessie earlier |
| 07:39.06 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@78.189.143.72) |
| 07:39.06 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny) |
| 07:39.14 | themill | does not see that being requested anywhere |
| 07:39.19 | *** join/#debian magnulu (~magnulu@5.254.148.178) |
| 07:41.11 | dexta | morning |
| 07:42.44 | *** join/#debian zapotek6 (~zap@176.200.218.15) |
| 07:42.45 | *** join/#debian mijicd (~mijicd@branko-tmd.ftn.uns.ac.rs) |
| 07:42.55 | *** join/#debian pinkbits (~james@59.167.114.37) |
| 07:43.23 | *** join/#debian boycottg00gle (~user@stgt-4d02dc34.pool.mediaways.net) |
| 07:43.26 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~j@62.0.168.213.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 07:43.50 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@095-097-139-090.static.chello.nl) |
| 07:44.36 | *** join/#debian chth0n (~forcefsck@193.120.208.221) |
| 07:44.37 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@095-097-139-090.static.chello.nl) |
| 07:44.50 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 07:45.10 | *** join/#debian enZer0 (~0ilm@tjure-mac.netzquadrat.de) |
| 07:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1367] by debhelper |
| 07:46.25 | *** join/#debian fosser_josh (~prathames@80.229.134.77) |
| 07:47.13 | *** join/#debian wtkp (~wtkp@unaffiliated/wtkp) |
| 07:47.40 | *** join/#debian Dreaman (~show@unaffiliated/dreaman) |
| 07:48.06 | *** join/#debian vurma (~kimchi@130.238.193.211) |
| 07:50.37 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.207) |
| 07:51.16 | *** join/#debian dobalina (~dobalina@gateway/tor-sasl/dobalina) |
| 07:53.17 | *** join/#debian dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-5f715b9c.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 07:53.48 | *** join/#debian jampola (~james@171.4.127.26) |
| 07:55.07 | daswort | what is the difference between "apparent size" and "disk usage"? What means apparent size in that context? I have a mdb file that has an apparent size of 844K but uses over 80G of disk sapce. |
| 07:55.20 | *** join/#debian Zebroid (~Zebroid@cm-84.211.72.225.getinternet.no) |
| 07:56.08 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-178-48-154-32.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 07:56.17 | *** join/#debian maxorator (~maxorator@185.7.254.18) |
| 07:56.27 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@71-84-78-55.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com) |
| 07:56.42 | *** join/#debian Zebroid (~Zebroid@cm-84.211.72.225.getinternet.no) |
| 07:56.43 | heurist | daswort: where are you seeing these numbers? |
| 07:58.44 | daswort | du -sh and du -sh --apparent-size and the apparent size is 80GB not the other way round. If i rsync that file it uses 80G disk space. heurist |
| 07:59.00 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny) |
| 07:59.42 | *** join/#debian k_sze[work] (~kvirc@unaffiliated/kira) |
| 07:59.46 | daswort | In my Backup (via rsync) the difference is 81GB vs 80GB. |
| 08:01.00 | heurist | daswort: I assume this is a new file? the difference is because the file is sparse, most of it contains no data and therefore does not use space on the disk. tell rsync to use --sparse |
| 08:03.58 | *** join/#debian tonythomas (uid25971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pabxozcvvsonlvkp) |
| 08:04.17 | daswort | it is (today). that should explain why the disk usage changes so much from backup to backup. heurist |
| 08:05.42 | *** join/#debian CodePulsar (~quassel@unaffiliated/shiningthrough) |
| 08:08.34 | *** join/#debian fusmu (~fusmu@gate.dpc.bg) |
| 08:09.09 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p54A85036.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:09.40 | *** join/#debian jampola (~james@171.4.127.26) |
| 08:09.44 | *** join/#debian mijicd (~mijicd@branko-tmd.ftn.uns.ac.rs) |
| 08:11.46 | *** join/#debian Gatis (~gatis@78.84.27.44) |
| 08:11.58 | *** join/#debian RayzrShrp (~scott@162.243.39.64) |
| 08:12.04 | Gatis | How do you people get info on desktop like on Crunchbang? |
| 08:12.12 | Gatis | ram info/ CPU info |
| 08:12.57 | *** join/#debian Aaron (~Aaron@ubuntu/member/aaron) |
| 08:13.01 | *** join/#debian dobalina1 (~dobalina@gateway/tor-sasl/dobalina) |
| 08:13.30 | formorer | Gatis: try conky |
| 08:13.35 | heurist | Gatis: crunchbang uses conky |
| 08:13.41 | formorer | Gatis: http://conky.sourceforge.net/ |
| 08:13.46 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@5.18.182.68) |
| 08:14.41 | daswort | Gatis, a more complex conky config you might like: http://zagortenay333.deviantart.com/art/Conky-Harmattan-426662366 |
| 08:15.51 | Aaron | hi i have a question how can i easy install grub themes? |
| 08:16.55 | *** join/#debian ByT3b0N3 (~ByT3b0N3@gitlab.cloud.hs-furtwangen.de) |
| 08:18.28 | *** join/#debian Iridos (~k@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 08:19.24 | fusmu | you want just to adjust resolution and splashimage or you need something specific ? |
| 08:21.10 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@37.163.245.198) |
| 08:21.18 | *** join/#debian M0ulin (~M0ulin@ANancy-652-1-481-197.w90-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:21.40 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.207) |
| 08:22.01 | *** join/#debian tzafrir (~tzafrir@bzq-218-28-58.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 08:22.29 | *** join/#debian btiefert (~btiefert@173-8-238-129-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 08:22.32 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~dayangkun@101.78.195.61) |
| 08:23.10 | Aaron | i want to change the image, |
| 08:23.17 | Aaron | and put something i like |
| 08:23.24 | *** join/#debian bakaneko (~d@kuzh.polytechnique.fr) |
| 08:23.37 | *** join/#debian zoso (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 08:23.53 | daswort | heurist, thanks for you help. |
| 08:24.07 | *** join/#debian ACiDC0re (~ACiD@ip-static-94-242-243-230.as5577.net) |
| 08:25.43 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@37.163.245.198) |
| 08:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1379] by debhelper |
| 08:28.25 | *** join/#debian whiterice (~poeticrpm@rrcs-71-42-179-100.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 08:28.28 | *** join/#debian cynicallemon (~cynicalle@gateway/tor-sasl/cynicallemon) |
| 08:29.03 | *** part/#debian tzafrir (~tzafrir@bzq-218-28-58.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 08:30.04 | *** join/#debian Tjati (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/tjati) |
| 08:31.30 | *** join/#debian pagz (a@hj0.org) |
| 08:31.32 | *** join/#debian ToApolytoXaos (~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128) |
| 08:36.21 | *** join/#debian wcfields (~keynull@cpe-23-241-41-217.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 08:36.41 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@d594e6a3.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 08:36.53 | *** join/#debian Chrisje (Chris@2a02:418:6050:ed15:ed15:ed15:1a27:a32b) |
| 08:38.33 | xiqy | I have wheezy-backports enabled, but I'm not sure if I'm using it. How can I tell if I have any packages from a certain repository installed? |
| 08:38.33 | *** join/#debian whiterice (~poeticrpm@rrcs-71-42-179-100.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 08:38.41 | fusmu | <Aaron> in /etc/default/grub |
| 08:39.05 | fusmu | ypu have to add GRUB_BACKGROUND="path-to-image" |
| 08:39.17 | fusmu | then update grub |
| 08:41.41 | *** join/#debian netinvman (~netinvman@218.8.10.155) |
| 08:41.52 | heurist | xiqy: aptitude search "?installed(?origin(backports))" |
| 08:43.06 | heurist | xiqy: I have more () in there than is needed, but hey |
| 08:44.07 | xiqy | heurist: Thanks! |
| 08:44.25 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@cpe-071-071-210-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 08:45.37 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 08:47.01 | *** join/#debian GusBricker (~GusBricke@c220-237-20-42.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 08:47.42 | *** join/#debian taylanub (~taylanub@p200300514A44E2820213E8FFFEED36FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:48.31 | babilen | dpkg_: tell xiqy -about which repo |
| 08:49.07 | taylanub | can I install just GCC 4.9 from testing, or what's the best way to get GCC 4.9 on Wheezy? |
| 08:49.35 | *** join/#debian goldkatze (~nobody@unaffiliated/goldkatze) |
| 08:50.52 | *** join/#debian dimir (~dimir@83.99.142.86) |
| 08:53.45 | *** join/#debian RayzrShrp (~scott@162.243.39.64) |
| 08:55.33 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@191-124-11.connect.netcom.no) |
| 08:55.36 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@ubuntu/member/hubuntu) |
| 08:55.52 | xiqy | babilen: dpkg seems to be down. It's up on OFTC though, but <which repo> only tells me how to find out which repository a certain package is from. My question was the opposite; do I have any packages from a certain repository on my system? |
| 08:55.55 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~enkrypt@d51A48B68.access.telenet.be) |
| 08:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1373] by debhelper |
| 08:56.09 | xiqy | But heurist helped my with that. |
| 08:56.43 | *** join/#debian TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@cm191.iota111.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 08:59.38 | *** join/#debian doev (~doev@p5B02CDDE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:00.02 | babilen | xiqy: Yes, I saw that. I simply wanted to provide you with the opposite tool. It wasn't necessarily meant as "Use this to solve your immediate problem" (even though you could and then just grep for backports), but rather as an additional hint in the "How to figure out where packages are from" area. |
| 09:00.29 | babilen | I will refrain from doing that in the future if you wish |
| 09:00.35 | *** join/#debian frediz (~Fred@jor31-1-78-225-230-73.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:00.52 | jelly-home | dpkg_: ping |
| 09:01.00 | heurist | babilen: Noooo! there goes my safety net! |
| 09:01.30 | *** join/#debian sabatu (~sabatu@dynamic-adsl-94-39-246-57.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 09:03.57 | *** join/#debian Nurbs (~nurbs@essn-5d83995b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 09:04.34 | *** join/#debian skyrter (~skyrter@117-191.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 09:04.46 | *** join/#debian cynfor (~cynfor@unaffiliated/cynfor) |
| 09:05.55 | *** join/#debian __sim__ (~sim@evr91-1-82-227-12-249.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:07.30 | Nurbs | Is there a way to show what versions of which packages (or a specific package) have been forbidden with aptitude forbid-version? |
| 09:07.56 | *** join/#debian ariscop (~Phase4@ppp118-209-31-221.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 09:09.51 | xiqy | babilen: I'd appreciate that, actually. Or if you could provide some context that be great too, like "In case you ever need to do the reverse, here's how". |
| 09:10.10 | xiqy | Otherwise I get confused and wonder if I'm just dense and missing something obvious. |
| 09:10.36 | *** join/#debian adev_ (~adev@2a02:2770:3:0:216:3eff:febe:3d4) |
| 09:12.25 | *** join/#debian cerebro (~cerebro@123-243-231-21.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:12.32 | *** join/#debian zapotek6 (~zap@176.200.218.15) |
| 09:13.18 | *** join/#debian geothom777 (~Thunderbi@ppp-94-68-86-120.home.otenet.gr) |
| 09:14.03 | *** join/#debian PotatoGim (~PotatoGim@220.90.135.162) |
| 09:15.37 | babilen | xiqy: I would have done that, but was called away :) |
| 09:16.11 | *** join/#debian adac (~adac@host68-217-static.10-188-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:17.02 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~enkrypt@d51A48B68.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:17.59 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r__ (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:a17e:173a:c4df:1761) |
| 09:18.26 | *** join/#debian voltagex (~voltagex@unaffiliated/voltagex) |
| 09:18.35 | Dixi | Im wondering.. I have created cronjobs, added strings to cron.d/ and made sure cron is running.. But the crons are not completed..? |
| 09:18.49 | Dixi | theyre not even initiated. |
| 09:18.50 | voltagex | I'm not entirely sure what I've done but I can't dist-upgrade - http://sprunge.us/BKEQ |
| 09:19.18 | Dixi | The scripts that cron is supposed to run, is executable, theyre owned and run by root |
| 09:19.18 | *** join/#debian cerebro (~cerebro@rpl-ipsec-052.tip.csiro.au) |
| 09:19.39 | voltagex | hm, thought I was in debian-next, sorry! |
| 09:20.14 | OpenTokix | Dixi: Added strings to cron.d ? |
| 09:21.05 | Dixi | yea, script |
| 09:21.09 | Dixi | sorry |
| 09:21.09 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@d58-111-87-126.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 09:21.27 | OpenTokix | Dixi: oj, did you put the script in /etc/cron.d? |
| 09:22.04 | babilen | Dixi: I'd recommend to use a pastebin such as http://paste.debian.net to show us what you've done *exactly* (along with permissions of those files) and also how you determine that they aren't run/executed. |
| 09:22.06 | OpenTokix | Dixi: in cron.d you put files with actual cron lines that point to your script. - in /etc/cron.daily you can put the actual scripts to run daily for instancxe. |
| 09:22.23 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~agiofws@athedsl-119096.home.otenet.gr) |
| 09:22.32 | Dixi | i know |
| 09:22.33 | Dixi | I did that |
| 09:22.39 | Dixi | and theyre run as root |
| 09:22.41 | OpenTokix | Dixi: did what, there is two options there |
| 09:22.46 | Dixi | so permissions should not matter |
| 09:22.56 | babilen | Dixi: Why don't you just us what you've done and we'll take it from there? |
| 09:23.08 | babilen | +show |
| 09:23.10 | Dixi | I did both. I added them to cron.d/ as well as a normal crontab |
| 09:23.14 | Dixi | sure, hold on |
| 09:23.20 | babilen | Both would be wrong |
| 09:23.41 | Dixi | i know, but I only tried that, because crontab failed to execute |
| 09:23.52 | babilen | At least if my mental model of what you did is correct (I think OpenTokix understood it in the same way) |
| 09:24.17 | heurist | Nurbs: aptitude search "?upgradable?action(keep)" |
| 09:24.20 | OpenTokix | babilen: I am not sure if Dixi added a crontab line in a file in cron.d or the script. |
| 09:24.44 | *** part/#debian sabatu (~sabatu@dynamic-adsl-94-39-246-57.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 09:25.18 | *** join/#debian patrikas9 (b224b971@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.36.185.113) |
| 09:25.47 | *** join/#debian Satchmo (~Satchmo@188.94.18.67) |
| 09:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1380] by debhelper |
| 09:26.18 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-99-32-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 09:27.02 | xiqy | heurist: Looks like aptitude search "?installed ?origin(backports)" returns packages which are both installed on the system and available from backports, but not necessarily installed FROM backports. |
| 09:27.21 | *** join/#debian koderok (~koderok@106.216.243.140) |
| 09:27.23 | xiqy | I'm reading up on aptitude search strings, I should be able to figure something out. |
| 09:28.04 | *** join/#debian lool_ (~mujtaba@37.63.141.41) |
| 09:29.20 | heurist | xiqy: maybe aptitude search "?and(?installed?origin(backports))" would be better? |
| 09:29.22 | Dixi | Here you are guys: http://paste.debian.net/115703/ |
| 09:29.45 | Nurbs | heurist: Thanks, even though that unfortunately won't display the versions which are forbidden. Also, an additional | grep ^.F filters it to only those really forbidden it seems. |
| 09:30.21 | jelly-home | Dixi: files in /etc/cron.d/ require a username in sixth column |
| 09:30.32 | xiqy | heurist: Returns the same. |
| 09:30.58 | Dixi | Omg, so embarresing! |
| 09:31.02 | Dixi | of course |
| 09:31.05 | OpenTokix | Dixi: =) problem solved |
| 09:31.18 | jelly-home | Dixi: you may want to read man 5 crontab |
| 09:31.33 | Dixi | i know how to add user to 6th col. |
| 09:31.36 | Dixi | i just forgot |
| 09:32.04 | Dixi | guess i just got myself looking blind at it |
| 09:32.22 | patrikas9 | Hi. I am back here to get help. Could someone tell me, how to properly use authbind? I just want to bind port for teamspeak, so I am trying to use something like this ... sudo -u ts3user authbind --deep ./ts3server_startscript.sh start 500 ... but still I get error that virtual server is unable to bind ports |
| 09:32.42 | *** join/#debian Rikairchy (~Rik@2a01:7a0:10:151:236:17:48:1) |
| 09:33.28 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@77.88.2.248-spb.dhcp.yndx.net) |
| 09:33.44 | Dixi | show us your startscript |
| 09:34.08 | Dixi | and whats this sudo stuff? |
| 09:34.13 | Dixi | are you using ubuntu? |
| 09:34.51 | patrikas9 | its debian 7.5 minimal |
| 09:34.56 | *** join/#debian lrockhq (~quassel@unaffiliated/sirlongrock) |
| 09:35.06 | *** join/#debian Gatis (~gatis@78.84.27.44) |
| 09:35.07 | Dixi | sudo is not used in debian |
| 09:35.12 | Gatis | what is better Debian or ubuntu? |
| 09:35.17 | Dixi | debian is |
| 09:35.23 | Dixi | ubuntu is a port of debian |
| 09:35.29 | Dixi | and its full of crap |
| 09:35.32 | jelly-home | Dixi: it's used, it just might not be installed by default |
| 09:35.33 | Dixi | and insecure shit |
| 09:35.39 | taylanub | I had Ubuntu break itself with an endorsed system update |
| 09:35.41 | Dixi | its probably not |
| 09:36.05 | Dixi | and theres a reason sudo is not used as per default ;) |
| 09:36.10 | borg2 | I think it's hard to claim what's better or worse. I'ts a matter of taste |
| 09:36.21 | jelly-home | Dixi: please try to press enter less and think out your full thoughts before writing down a stream like that |
| 09:36.30 | taylanub | ("break" means WiFi stopped working. I manually updated the kernel to fix it, then immediately disabled system updates forever -_-) |
| 09:36.50 | *** join/#debian SubjectOne (~section1@78-21-59-98.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:36.56 | lrockhq | i've always enjoyed poetic phrasing such as dixis |
| 09:37.12 | lrockhq | does that style cost the network more bandwidth? |
| 09:37.31 | Gatis | There are so much linuxes i don't know what to choose :D |
| 09:37.56 | *** join/#debian cynicallemon (~cynicalle@gateway/tor-sasl/cynicallemon) |
| 09:38.04 | jelly-home | Gatis: well... what kind of answer do you expect to that question in a channel populated by debian users? :-) |
| 09:38.08 | Dixi | I have used debian since 5.0 and I have never looked back. Before that I was using gentoo. |
| 09:38.16 | tremon | lrockhq: it costs screen estate. It requires other people to use the scrollback to follow the interesting messages |
| 09:38.17 | CissWit | Gatis: here, on #debian, people like debian more. But ubuntu is still a good system despite Dixi rants. You should try both, maybe in VM. And use the system you like the most |
| 09:38.46 | borg2 | Well said CissWit :) |
| 09:38.53 | lrockhq | it can tremon i understand your argument |
| 09:38.54 | Dixi | Its not a rant CissWit.. Its the obvious truth |
| 09:38.56 | *** join/#debian TheLive1 (~sajjad@5.246.121.234) |
| 09:39.19 | lrockhq | if you're going to try ubuntu you should CERTAINLY try Mint as well |
| 09:39.37 | lrockhq | 'nuff of that |
| 09:39.48 | lrockhq | debian's the honorable grand daddy, in my parlance |
| 09:39.56 | Dixi | debian is primarily used by server administrators, where as ports of debian such as ubuntu etc, are used for desktop environments.. |
| 09:39.57 | jelly-home | patrikas9: can you show your /etc/authbind configuration? put contents of "find /etc/authbind -ls" into a pastebin |
| 09:40.09 | Dixi | thus it is not a ranting.. but a fact.. |
| 09:40.21 | lrockhq | lol Dixi |
| 09:40.25 | lrockhq | is this guy building a server? |
| 09:40.27 | CissWit | Dixi: that's false, ubuntu lts versions are very suitable for servers and often used |
| 09:40.41 | lrockhq | ubuntu lts server edition was recommended to me just the other day |
| 09:40.43 | *** join/#debian Zero_Flag (~Zero_Flag@gateway/tor-sasl/zeroflag/x-93430316) |
| 09:40.46 | lrockhq | by a person who knows and respects Debian |
| 09:41.11 | lrockhq | just knows my level of skill and commitment to learning more |
| 09:41.22 | Dixi | CissWit: yes it is, but there is a perfectly good reason to use debian over ubuntu if you want a stable server. 1 reason is that testing lå |
| 09:41.31 | *** join/#debian cantoma (~jduro@cspc-res-20.campus.bath.ac.uk) |
| 09:41.34 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@ubuntu/member/hubuntu) |
| 09:41.45 | Dixi | CissWit: yes it is, but there is a perfectly good reason to use debian over ubuntu if you want a stable server. 1 reason is that testing pkgs' are released, in my oppinion, waaayyy to soon in ubuntu etc. |
| 09:42.04 | patrikas9 | jelly-home: sure, It will take me some time because I'm not familiar with linux |
| 09:42.09 | Dixi | Theres a reason, why alot of stuff are not made stable in debian untill it has undergone a long testing period. |
| 09:42.24 | jelly-home | dselect, tell patrikas9 about paste |
| 09:42.29 | lrockhq | if that is your philosophy you ought to be using BSD Dixi |
| 09:42.41 | taylanub | pulls patrikas9 aside and explains in excrutiationg detail why what ey's referring to as "linux" should in fact be called "GNU/Linux" |
| 09:42.52 | lrockhq | unless ya got something you use that just needs to work that's in the middle ground |
| 09:42.54 | Dixi | No, because Debian suits me just fine, and has done, since 5.0 |
| 09:43.00 | jelly-home | taylanub: please don't start that. |
| 09:43.04 | lrockhq | i understand |
| 09:43.10 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@unaffiliated/redguy) |
| 09:43.15 | taylanub | jelly-home: well it is Debian GNU/Linux, right? |
| 09:43.22 | Dixi | i may remind you again, that you are in a #debian channel.. Not #bsd, not #ubuntu and not #mint |
| 09:43.32 | lrockhq | i am moving to BSD long term myself, probably not for all my systems..and Anyone i turn on to linux, which happens monthly, gets a debian derivative recommend |
| 09:43.34 | heurist | xiqy: babilen's solution should work, just add a | grep backports to it. |
| 09:43.44 | jelly-home | taylanub: putting on the op hat, I repeat, please do not start that argument again. |
| 09:43.53 | lrockhq | yeah dixi and we aren't even in offtopic |
| 09:43.54 | lrockhq | oh my |
| 09:44.04 | lrockhq | i'm sure you have more fans here than me so |
| 09:44.04 | Gatis | ok thanks |
| 09:44.09 | taylanub | jelly-home: meanie. |
| 09:44.16 | Gatis | To me |
| 09:44.21 | Gatis | I don;t know what is good or not |
| 09:44.22 | Gatis | :D |
| 09:44.23 | lrockhq | i'm done, sorry for taking up screen estate |
| 09:44.28 | *** join/#debian bmr (bmr@nat/redhat/x-cjjhbjzvacrpqzky) |
| 09:44.47 | patrikas9 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/vcZEMum8 I am actually trying to use port 811 for user unkn9wn |
| 09:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1389] by debhelper |
| 09:46.15 | jelly-home | patrikas9: hm, looks right to me |
| 09:46.26 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 09:47.14 | xiqy | heurist, babilen: Yep, that works. Thanks again! |
| 09:47.40 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 09:48.17 | patrikas9 | everything looks fine, but when I am trying to run server as user, i get this in teamspeak log "failed to start, error: unable to bind network port". When I run it as root, server works as it should |
| 09:50.05 | *** join/#debian Otyugh (~otyugh__@ARennes-251-1-197-232.w2-10.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:50.10 | patrikas9 | btw why is it unsafe to run teamspeak server as root |
| 09:50.30 | babilen | xiqy: Please note that apt does not save where packages have been installed from, but simply answers the question "What is the policy for the currently installed one?" and therefore only works with repositories that are still enabled. |
| 09:50.36 | patrikas9 | I will probably have to run it as root |
| 09:51.09 | *** join/#debian joj (~joj@unaffiliated/joj) |
| 09:54.09 | *** join/#debian Zebroid (~Zebroid@195.69.50.183) |
| 09:54.56 | *** join/#debian TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@cm191.iota111.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 09:55.50 | *** join/#debian oeitei (~oeitei@2a02:2788:48:379:b8ba:1c7e:cf60:e4d8) |
| 09:56.30 | *** join/#debian cerebro_ (~cerebro@123-243-231-21.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:57.47 | *** join/#debian maxorator (~maxorator@185.7.254.18) |
| 09:58.18 | *** join/#debian cynicallemon (~cynicalle@gateway/tor-sasl/cynicallemon) |
| 09:58.48 | jelly-home | patrikas9: setcap cap_net_bind_service=+ep /path/to/teamspeak/binary ought to allow it to bind to any low port, which is somewhat problematic but still better than running with all the root capabilities |
| 09:59.05 | jelly-home | https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NonRootPortBinding |
| 09:59.35 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 09:59.40 | patrikas9 | Ok I'll give it a try |
| 09:59.42 | jelly-home | haven't used authbind so I've no idea what's going wrong there |
| 10:00.35 | jelly-home | port translation via iptables is an option as well (also shown on that page) |
| 10:01.24 | jelly-home | that's what we used to do with java servlet containers like tomcat |
| 10:01.25 | *** join/#debian cynicallemon (~cynicalle@gateway/tor-sasl/cynicallemon) |
| 10:01.28 | *** join/#debian ChrisH__ (~dg7pc@dslb-092-072-185-182.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 10:02.28 | *** join/#debian nse1 (~leo@177.134.202.119) |
| 10:02.37 | rtur | Hey guys. I want to parse aptitude show output but the language may differ from time to time. Can I set some LANG variable to force aptitude to use a language without changing the system defaults ? |
| 10:02.43 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 10:03.37 | tremon | LANG=C aptitude ... |
| 10:03.42 | *** join/#debian Ariannah (~adagio@blk-224-144-23.eastlink.ca) |
| 10:03.42 | *** join/#debian SynrG (~synrg@debian/developer/synrg) |
| 10:04.58 | rtur | tremon: Thank you. |
| 10:05.19 | jelly-home | LC_ALL=C may be a better fit if you just want to override everything |
| 10:06.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1382] by debhelper |
| 10:06.10 | jelly-home | LANG=C wouldn't affect an existing nondefault LC_MESSAGES |
| 10:06.35 | tremon | thanks :) |
| 10:07.39 | tremon | what's the best way to share a patch with a maintainer? through a bugreport or just sending it to the maintainer list? |
| 10:09.01 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.191.185.221) |
| 10:09.21 | patrikas9 | after setcap I get error while trying to run server. "Please make sure you use the supplied ts3server_minimal_runscript.sh to run the server, or set LD_LIBRARY_PATH yourself". Yeah I am using minimal runscript, and I also tried to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH by myself. As root still everything works |
| 10:09.53 | *** join/#debian btiefert (~btiefert@173-8-238-129-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 10:09.58 | *** join/#debian D-Boy (~D-Boy@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 10:10.35 | patrikas9 | ah also after that error it says |CRITICAL|DatabaseQuery | | unable to load database plugin library "libts3db_sqlite3.so", halting! |
| 10:10.43 | *** join/#debian jrgill (~jrgill@unaffiliated/jrgill) |
| 10:10.50 | *** join/#debian btcNeverSleeps (~user@ANice-652-1-401-216.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:11.09 | btcNeverSleeps | can I mix testing and stable on my stable Debian Wheezy? |
| 10:11.15 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 10:11.28 | btcNeverSleeps | (I need >= GLIBC_2.14) |
| 10:11.46 | heurist | dpkg_: tell btcNeverSleeps -about frankendebian |
| 10:12.09 | joj | dpkg_: tell joj about frankendebian |
| 10:12.24 | heurist | dpkg_: tell joj about selftell |
| 10:12.30 | *** join/#debian unop (~unop@host86-155-37-155.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:12.51 | btcNeverSleeps | yup, tell me about it dpkg_: is a frankendebian something I'd want or should I absolutely not do it? |
| 10:13.03 | tremon | btcNeverSleeps: there are no benefits to mixing testing and stable. If you need stuff from testing, then just run testing. |
| 10:13.08 | joj | heurist: this is funny, it doesn't respond at all. The trailing _ is wrong too. |
| 10:13.14 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 10:13.50 | joj | dpkg is not logged into freenode at the moment! |
| 10:13.50 | dpkg_ | joj: I give up, what is it? |
| 10:13.52 | heurist | joj the trailing _ is needed right now. |
| 10:13.57 | heurist | !selftell |
| 10:13.57 | dpkg_ | Please do not use the bot's !tell feature on #debian to see factoids for yourself (!tell me about something). Doing so could be considered spam. Instead, send a private message to the bot (dpkg) containing the factoid you want to read. For example, instead of "!tell me about foo", use "/msg dpkg foo". See also <msg the bot> |
| 10:14.13 | heurist | !frankendebian |
| 10:14.13 | dpkg_ | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 10:14.56 | btcNeverSleeps | I installed the latest Haskell platform + emacs stuff like haskell-mode-stylish-buffer but some stuff "doesn't work" [TM] and requires GLIBC_2.14. :-/ |
| 10:15.24 | btcNeverSleeps | (emacs 24 compiled from source btw, so I take I already have a frankendebian) |
| 10:15.46 | heurist | btcNeverSleeps: run haskell in a jessie chroot or lxc container |
| 10:16.18 | btcNeverSleeps | heurist: ah I like that idea: never tried lxc yet... So basically I'd run testing inside lxc or ? |
| 10:16.34 | heurist | btcNeverSleeps: yep |
| 10:16.38 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~spadewise@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 10:16.40 | btcNeverSleeps | oh gotcha, "jessie" is testing |
| 10:16.53 | heurist | btcNeverSleeps: yep again |
| 10:16.57 | btcNeverSleeps | :) |
| 10:17.27 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 10:20.09 | *** join/#debian TheLive1 (~sajjad@5.246.121.234) |
| 10:21.55 | babilen | btcNeverSleeps: You might also want to consider tracking jessie (aka testing) on your development box. See <testing> <jessie> <wheezy->jessie> <jum> <jum caveat> and <sid faq> for starters. |
| 10:22.00 | OERIAS | Hey everyone |
| 10:22.13 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@108.96.134.167) |
| 10:22.52 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 10:23.28 | btcNeverSleeps | babilen: what does "tracking jessie" mean in this context? |
| 10:24.35 | *** join/#debian jayne (~jayne@freenode/staff/jayne) |
| 10:24.35 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.88.71) |
| 10:24.38 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-178-48-154-32.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 10:24.57 | *** join/#debian bitcrunsher (~androirc@dyndsl-080-228-183-009.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 10:25.10 | bitcrunsher | Hi |
| 10:25.29 | *** join/#debian TheLive1 (~sajjad@80.84.58.162) |
| 10:25.54 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@247.Red-88-21-109.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:27.21 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 10:28.34 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.207) |
| 10:28.44 | babilen | btcNeverSleeps: It means to run jessie rather than wheezy (track mean "to follow") |
| 10:29.23 | babilen | You would, essentially, upgrade to the development release from which we will cut the new stable release in due course. |
| 10:29.37 | *** join/#debian TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@cm191.iota111.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 10:34.49 | *** join/#debian apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 10:34.49 | *** topic/#debian is openssl: /msg dpkg dsa2896 | wheezy released: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy | current point release: /msg dpkg 7.6 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) |
| 10:36.20 | babilen | btcNeverSleeps: You should be able to easily upgrade that (just like the real thing) -- It is just that if you will spend all your time working on jessie anyway you could just run it on your box to begin with. |
| 10:36.34 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 10:37.57 | btcNeverSleeps | babilen: yes, I might just end up doing that... But I don't mind trying lxc (never tried it). |
| 10:38.07 | babilen | Sure |
| 10:38.36 | btcNeverSleeps | should lxc-start be run as root? |
| 10:38.49 | btcNeverSleeps | (the tutorial I'm following mentions nothing about that) |
| 10:39.45 | OERIAS | Anyone here with Unity Desktop? |
| 10:40.46 | *** join/#debian bitcrunsher (~androirc@dyndsl-080-228-183-009.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 10:41.08 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~enkrypt@d51A48B68.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:42.31 | heurist | btcNeverSleeps: is you are using the lxc package then I think you need to start it as root. however "lxc" is not that package, it is the technology used by that package and libvirt-lxc, many prefer libvirt. |
| 10:42.55 | xiqy | OERIAS: Probably not, since it's not packaged for Debian. |
| 10:43.11 | *** join/#debian jrahmy (~jrahmy@cpe-24-94-26-137.san.res.rr.com) |
| 10:43.15 | OERIAS | I heard some one ported the desktop. |
| 10:43.34 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-178-48-154-32.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 10:44.05 | *** join/#debian btcNeverSleeps (~user@ANice-652-1-401-216.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:45.24 | xiqy | There's some Unity related stuff in the experimental repo, but nothing in unstable or testing, and certainly not in stable. |
| 10:45.49 | *** join/#debian mattcen (~mattcen@c110-22-201-130.sunsh4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 10:46.06 | *** join/#debian n-st (~n-st@188-192-74-226-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 10:46.10 | *** join/#debian halt2 (~Thunderbi@83.218.157.210) |
| 10:46.46 | halt2 | Hi All, does nayone have a nie handy script for listing out all cron job ? User, System and package as well ? |
| 10:46.50 | OERIAS | I see, |
| 10:47.11 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 10:47.34 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 10:47.36 | halt2 | one liner bash, or anything like that ? |
| 10:48.10 | forcer | halt2: cat /var/spool/cron/crontabs/* /etc/crontab /etc/cron.d/* ? |
| 10:48.21 | *** join/#debian hellangel7 (~hellangel@117.192.190.189) |
| 10:48.46 | relaxed | man crontab |
| 10:49.07 | *** join/#debian grandie (~siducer75@p57ACE612.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:49.43 | *** join/#debian linuxguy101 (~ssvlack@unaffiliated/linuxguy101) |
| 10:50.44 | halt2 | that's missign the daily weekly etc, but yeah that spool trick is quite good |
| 10:50.46 | *** join/#debian hellangel7 (~hellangel@117.192.190.189) |
| 10:51.34 | forcer | halt2: Strictly speaking, cron.daily etc. are not crontabs, but are run by run-parts from /etc/crontab |
| 10:51.41 | *** join/#debian SquirrelCZECH (~squirrel@ip-89-103-45-17.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 10:51.54 | *** join/#debian Al3xG0 (~t7DS@37.221.170.110) |
| 10:51.56 | *** join/#debian Al3xG0 (~t7DS@unaffiliated/al3xg0) |
| 10:52.05 | *** join/#debian sebastianlutter (~sebastian@pd95cdee4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:52.22 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@f054144245.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:52.31 | halt2 | relaxed: very helpful thanks did you read it ? If so you should know that doe snot answer the question, I also like to point to docs, but here the qeustion was not how to list one but how to list ALL! |
| 10:52.56 | *** join/#debian Zebroid (~Zebroid@195.69.50.183) |
| 10:53.06 | halt2 | forcer: true but if you what to see what's will be exctuted then you should list that ones as well |
| 10:53.12 | heurist | halt2: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/134906/how-do-i-list-all-cron-jobs-for-all-users |
| 10:53.43 | halt2 | heurist: user yes, but still do not list the daily, and the system and package crons |
| 10:53.50 | forcer | halt2: If the script in cron.daily runs five other scripts, do you want to list those as well? That might get tricky :-) |
| 10:54.07 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@octave/developer/carandraug) |
| 10:54.24 | *** join/#debian viscera (~viscera@unaffiliated/viscera) |
| 10:54.56 | heurist | halt2: answer 2 appears to do that. |
| 10:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1389] by debhelper |
| 10:56.09 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 10:56.16 | *** join/#debian PcJamesy (~James@unaffiliated/pcjamesy) |
| 10:56.17 | *** join/#debian Zebroid (~Zebroid@195.69.50.183) |
| 10:57.24 | halt2 | heurist: right ! i missed that long long bash script ok I copy that thanks |
| 10:57.41 | forcer | That looks nifty :-) |
| 10:57.59 | heurist | halt2: read it carefully before you run it. I did not read or test it. |
| 10:58.04 | *** join/#debian btiefert (~btiefert@173-8-238-129-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 10:58.17 | *** join/#debian Zebroid_ (~Zebroid@46.156.12.207.tmi.telenormobil.no) |
| 10:58.50 | halt2 | I'm reading it now, but it's look like a lot of formating but less work |
| 11:00.20 | *** join/#debian sandman (~z@71-13-140-45.static.ftbg.wi.charter.com) |
| 11:00.21 | halt2 | otherwise it's looks good and harmless |
| 11:01.33 | *** join/#debian meaneye (~meaneye@bzq-79-177-54-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 11:01.47 | halt2 | great, it's beautiful !! |
| 11:01.48 | *** join/#debian wtkp (~wtkp@unaffiliated/wtkp) |
| 11:03.16 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 11:03.19 | *** join/#debian parameter1 (~parameter@c13-65.i07-4.onvol.net) |
| 11:03.25 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@dslb-092-073-144-114.092.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 11:03.25 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 11:03.49 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 11:04.09 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 11:04.44 | *** join/#debian maroloccio (~marolocci@21.Red-83-53-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:05.21 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@cpc20-nail3-2-0-cust985.18-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 11:05.36 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 11:05.38 | *** join/#debian osf (~osf@189.58.110.185) |
| 11:06.01 | *** join/#debian LeMike (~Thunderbi@dslb-188-100-014-218.188.100.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 11:06.08 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:06.25 | *** join/#debian btcNeverSleeps (~user@ANice-652-1-401-216.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:07.48 | *** join/#debian lool_ (~mujtaba@37.63.141.41) |
| 11:09.36 | *** join/#debian Wharncliffe (~coffee@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 11:10.57 | *** join/#debian Slumlord_ (~234923714@173-21-201-146.client.mchsi.com) |
| 11:11.14 | *** join/#debian froken_longstock (~quassel@2601:8:8280:3a1:bd7c:352b:6dcf:dcd9) |
| 11:11.44 | *** join/#debian kottlett (~quassel@dslb-088-074-000-180.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 11:12.02 | *** join/#debian wtkp (~wtkp@unaffiliated/wtkp) |
| 11:14.30 | *** join/#debian mick0 (~user@unaffiliated/mick0) |
| 11:14.57 | *** join/#debian WinstonSmith (~WinstonSm@unaffiliated/winstonsmith) |
| 11:15.30 | *** join/#debian jackbrown (~se@93-44-41-0.ip95.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:16.06 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p54A85FBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:16.34 | *** join/#debian sandman2 (~z@71-13-140-45.static.ftbg.wi.charter.com) |
| 11:17.36 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-173.net-81-220-233.bruay.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 11:18.00 | btcNeverSleeps | how can I check which package version does a specific Debian version provides? (given I'm at a prompt in that Debian version). For example I have Debian Jessie and I want to know which Emacs version is in the Jessie repo (before installing it) |
| 11:18.03 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a79-168-159-95.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 11:18.56 | heurist | btcNeverSleeps: aptitude search emacs |
| 11:19.37 | tremon | btcNeverSleeps: also apt-cache policy $pkg |
| 11:20.39 | tremon | and use packages.debian.org for suites not in your sources.list |
| 11:21.54 | formorer | btcNeverSleeps: devscripts provides a handy script: rmadison: rmadison package name gives you the the version and architectures of a package in the archive |
| 11:22.30 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 11:23.27 | joj | formorer: that's just awesome. I've been using sr until now. |
| 11:23.52 | *** join/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 11:23.53 | formorer | btcNeverSleeps: http://paste.debian.net/115721/ |
| 11:24.15 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~Jeff_Ward@cpe-67-249-197-133.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 11:24.30 | *** part/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 11:24.32 | *** join/#debian SergeyTreinis (~HnH@s094127067121.m.truevds.ru) |
| 11:24.42 | *** join/#debian ayaz (~Ayaz@linuxpakistan/ayaz) |
| 11:25.34 | btcNeverSleeps | thanks guys, saving this in a file, will be handy |
| 11:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1397] by debhelper |
| 11:27.07 | babilen | joj: Take a look at the other scripts in devscripts and debian-goodies, you might find other gems :) |
| 11:28.00 | btcNeverSleeps | geez: "apt-get install devscripts" install 384 MB of stuff : ) (but that's on a brand new system I just installed inside a lxc container) |
| 11:28.18 | formorer | not installing recommends helps |
| 11:29.31 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 11:30.28 | btcNeverSleeps | I'm a bit ashamed to admit that I'm using Debian since version 1.2 or so and still don't really know how it works ; ) |
| 11:33.25 | heurist | ! tell btcNeverSleeps -about apt recommends |
| 11:33.58 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 11:35.11 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF6413.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:37.49 | *** join/#debian terribleplan (~terriblep@ec2-50-112-56-197.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 11:38.48 | Walex2 | btcNeverSleeps: 'aptitude' helps me look at dependencies |
| 11:39.02 | formorer | btcNeverSleeps: curl --data "package=iproute2&table=all" https://qa.debian.org/madison.php 2>/dev/null | sed -n -e '/<pre>/,/<\/pre>/p;/<\/pre>/q'| sed '/pre/d' |
| 11:39.18 | formorer | if you don't want use rmadison itself |
| 11:40.42 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 11:40.57 | btcNeverSleeps | formorer: tried rmadison, looks great |
| 11:41.51 | btcNeverSleeps | but of course "rmadison emacs" didn't do what I wanted. I realized "rmadison emacs24" is what I wanted : ) |
| 11:42.32 | *** join/#debian zophy (~sy@host-98-218-220-24.midco.net) |
| 11:42.41 | heurist | btcNeverSleeps: aptitude search emacs would have told you that too. if you have the repos "enabled" |
| 11:42.53 | *** join/#debian lunux (~test@94.54.100.231) |
| 11:43.23 | *** join/#debian CoreIT84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 11:44.18 | *** join/#debian bakaneko (~d@kuzh.polytechnique.fr) |
| 11:47.57 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 11:49.11 | btcNeverSleeps | great, so now I have emacs 24.3.1 working inside a Debian Jessy inside a lxc container. "emacs -nw" (no window) works fine. How do I run it in windowed mode, on my Debian Wheezy? |
| 11:49.26 | btcNeverSleeps | I tried to export "DISPLAY=10.0.0.77:0.0" but it doesn't seem to work |
| 11:49.49 | *** join/#debian s7pn (~s7pn@gateway/tor-sasl/s7pn) |
| 11:49.58 | formorer | btcNeverSleeps: you are aware that you can just install emacs24 from wheezy-backports? |
| 11:50.15 | *** join/#debian Frosh (uid4206@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-btegqukdgxtmhnik) |
| 11:50.16 | froken_longstock | btcNeverSleeps: also did you check the manual page for emacs? |
| 11:50.20 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~grobda24-@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 11:51.04 | forcer | Setting DISPLAY should be enough; I suspect that DISPLAY is not correctly connected. |
| 11:51.23 | forcer | Assuming Emacs was built with X support, that is |
| 11:51.24 | btcNeverSleeps | forcer: ok, good to know |
| 11:51.40 | *** join/#debian swordsmanz (~swordsman@unaffiliated/swordsmanz) |
| 11:51.58 | *** join/#debian mechanicalduck (~mechanica@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 11:52.03 | btcNeverSleeps | formorer: wouldn't using wheezy-backports turn my Wheezy into a frankendebian? (anyway I find the process of trying lxc interesting) |
| 11:52.18 | formorer | into what? |
| 11:52.24 | heurist | btcNeverSleeps: backports are supported |
| 11:53.37 | *** join/#debian CoreIT84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 11:53.41 | froken_longstock | btcNeverSleeps: if you are worried you could containerize or have a virtual machine |
| 11:53.57 | *** part/#debian taylanub (~taylanub@p200300514A44E2820213E8FFFEED36FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:55.10 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~Jeff_Ward@cpe-67-249-197-133.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 11:55.11 | btcNeverSleeps | I'm not worried but I've got a working Emacs 24 setup compiled from source on my Debian Wheezy which I'm using for work. Now I need a more recent glibc than the one in Wheezy to be able to run some recent Haskell emacs packages, so I'm trying to install a second Emacs inside Jeezy (which is in a lxc) |
| 11:55.31 | talin | hello. how can i install a package with "options"? e.g. with ssl disabled? |
| 11:56.12 | *** join/#debian SynrGy (~synrg@debian/developer/synrg) |
| 11:56.29 | formorer | talin: you can't |
| 11:56.41 | *** join/#debian MY123 (uid37100@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbtgaiiytumoxiiu) |
| 11:56.42 | tremon | talin: you have to build that package with options first |
| 11:57.21 | talin | hmm, so i have to download, ./configure, make and all that stuff? |
| 11:58.02 | tremon | that would be apt-get download, dch, and dpkg-buildpackage in debian |
| 11:58.40 | *** part/#debian fosser_josh (~prathames@80.229.134.77) |
| 11:59.51 | talin | apt-get source nagios-nrpe-server |
| 11:59.52 | mactimes | talin Take a look at this for some guidance: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcePackage |
| 11:59.52 | talin | dch? |
| 12:00.31 | tremon | debchange. Usually it helps to add a changelog entries for the changes you made (iirc dpkg-buildpackage enforces that you do) |
| 12:00.38 | *** join/#debian mechanicalduck (~mechanica@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 12:00.44 | *** join/#debian lunux (~test@78.188.83.87) |
| 12:00.46 | talin | ah, excellent |
| 12:00.57 | tremon | although I'm not sure if that applies if you only modify the build options |
| 12:01.26 | tremon | talin: oh and yes, it's apt-get source, not apt-get download. My bad :) |
| 12:03.32 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~user@2001:4ca0:0:f300:2c0:caff:fe75:c1e2) |
| 12:03.47 | *** join/#debian Defaultti (defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi) |
| 12:04.24 | *** join/#debian sandman13 (~sandman@49.244.7.197) |
| 12:04.59 | *** join/#debian svetlana_ (quasselcor@gryllida.xen.prgmr.com) |
| 12:05.48 | *** join/#debian wildc4rd (~nick@91.85.41.9) |
| 12:06.49 | *** join/#debian svetlana (quasselcor@freenode/staff/gry) |
| 12:06.52 | *** join/#debian lrockhq (~quassel@c-98-208-95-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 12:06.52 | *** join/#debian lrockhq (~quassel@unaffiliated/sirlongrock) |
| 12:06.55 | *** join/#debian gregor2 (~gregor@93-82-114-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 12:07.14 | *** join/#debian mms_ (~chatzilla@triband-mum-120.62.203.48.mtnl.net.in) |
| 12:08.02 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 12:08.24 | mms_ | when I click the root terminal it brings up window. I want to customize it so it has black background and white foreground so some thing that is easy on eyes. I tried to put things in .Xresources but that works only for xterm. |
| 12:08.52 | mms_ | the existing window is good but just that its color I want to reverse |
| 12:08.55 | *** join/#debian Gu_______ (~textual@86.89.212.168) |
| 12:09.09 | froken_longstock | well why not just make a shell script that opens up a terminal then goes su |
| 12:09.29 | froken_longstock | just one line |
| 12:09.31 | froken_longstock | "sudo xterm" |
| 12:09.36 | froken_longstock | I beleive |
| 12:09.46 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5DDFC8A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:10.34 | heurist | mms_: froken_longstock: better xterm -e sudo -i that way only the shell is running as root, not the term too. |
| 12:10.53 | froken_longstock | heurist: yeah that was what I was wondeirng |
| 12:11.00 | heurist | mms_: you have not said what terminal you are running, read the docs for your terminal |
| 12:11.38 | mms_ | heurist: I do not know which application runs that window which I choose from menu |
| 12:11.45 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@77.88.2.248-spb.dhcp.yndx.net) |
| 12:11.56 | *** join/#debian [TheFlash] (~theflash@cable-188-2-2-248.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 12:11.57 | mms_ | heurist: I knows its gdm3 |
| 12:12.09 | heurist | mms_: then we can not help you configure an unknown application |
| 12:12.21 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@221.217.216.197) |
| 12:12.21 | [TheFlash] | is there any chance GNU DMD will be packaged in debian? |
| 12:12.38 | [TheFlash] | i guess i should try to make it work |
| 12:12.44 | mms_ | heurist: default install of debian wheezy gdm3 what is the application for that terminal and root terminal ? |
| 12:12.46 | [TheFlash] | if it does, i can make a debian package |
| 12:13.27 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 12:13.45 | mms_ | its nice white window I like way it works just the colors |
| 12:13.45 | heurist | mms_: I do not use gnome, I can not help you. look around in the menus maybe? |
| 12:13.53 | mms_ | ok |
| 12:14.46 | *** join/#debian goldroom (~goldroom@chello084114174150.4.15.univie.teleweb.at) |
| 12:15.44 | *** join/#debian Gu_______ (~textual@86.89.212.168) |
| 12:15.46 | xiqy | mms_: The default terminal emulator in gnome is gnome-terminal. |
| 12:16.16 | xiqy | I don't know if the root terminal is different - I don't have one on my system. |
| 12:17.02 | heurist | mms_: type xprop then click on the root-terminal to see what it is running. |
| 12:17.11 | *** join/#debian Phil-Work` (~phil@2a02:b90:7004:4000::b5bd) |
| 12:18.31 | *** join/#debian NiLon (nilon@unaffiliated/nilon) |
| 12:19.13 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 12:19.44 | mms_ | ok I went into profile and chagne the color |
| 12:19.54 | mms_ | now its as I want |
| 12:20.10 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-drxsskqawgcafsbe) |
| 12:20.42 | mms_ | its gnome-terminal |
| 12:22.22 | *** join/#debian fold (~JimmyRcom@66-169-184-128.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 12:22.38 | *** join/#debian brianblaze420 (~brianblaz@unaffiliated/brianblaze) |
| 12:23.16 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@77.88.2.248-spb.dhcp.yndx.net) |
| 12:23.41 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 12:23.49 | *** join/#debian nyuszika7h (nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h) |
| 12:24.23 | *** join/#debian Dreaman (~show@unaffiliated/dreaman) |
| 12:25.36 | mms_ | thanks guys |
| 12:25.38 | *** part/#debian mms_ (~chatzilla@triband-mum-120.62.203.48.mtnl.net.in) |
| 12:25.54 | *** part/#debian halt2 (~Thunderbi@83.218.157.210) |
| 12:27.28 | *** join/#debian mithrandirr (~mauricio@201.234.41.210) |
| 12:29.59 | *** join/#debian cromag (~cromag@irssi/user/cromag) |
| 12:31.36 | *** join/#debian mijicd (~mijicd@branko-tmd.ftn.uns.ac.rs) |
| 12:32.16 | *** join/#debian santiago_32 (~santiago@r186-49-11-126.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 12:34.11 | *** join/#debian santiagoR (~santiagoR@190.111.244.210) |
| 12:34.36 | *** join/#debian kikimeter (~kikimeter@pdm33-h01-176-179-208-119.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 12:34.50 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 12:35.08 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@177.98.49.20) |
| 12:35.43 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 12:35.46 | *** join/#debian tryin2dev (~tryin2dev@74-94-234-132-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 12:36.27 | *** join/#debian tryin2dev (~tryin2dev@74-94-234-132-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 12:37.03 | *** join/#debian Phil-Work (~phil@2a02:b90:7004:4000::b5bd) |
| 12:38.05 | *** join/#debian tryin2dev (~tryin2dev@74-94-234-132-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 12:38.40 | *** join/#debian nse1 (~leo@177.98.49.253) |
| 12:39.46 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@p57A08282.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:39.48 | *** join/#debian leitao (~breno@179-125-243-145.desktop.com.br) |
| 12:40.20 | *** join/#debian alexdmccabe (~alexdmcca@23-126-134-28.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 12:40.37 | *** join/#debian Asiajey (~Asiajey@unaffiliated/asiajey) |
| 12:41.48 | *** join/#debian monod (~monod@host54-34-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:42.34 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@178-25-29-71-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 12:42.45 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@f054144245.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:43.12 | *** join/#debian tryin2dev (~tryin2dev@74-94-234-132-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 12:43.15 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-457f51c5.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 12:44.11 | *** part/#debian [TheFlash] (~theflash@cable-188-2-2-248.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 12:45.20 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 12:46.51 | *** join/#debian sandman13 (~sandman@182.93.68.161) |
| 12:47.22 | *** join/#debian ixti (~ixti@77.226.194.200) |
| 12:47.56 | *** join/#debian gregor2 (~gregor@93-82-114-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 12:48.35 | gregor2 | beep |
| 12:48.40 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 12:49.16 | *** join/#debian shinnya (~shinnya@49.132.210.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 12:50.13 | gregor2 | :hi |
| 12:50.25 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@177.96.115.93) |
| 12:50.36 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 12:51.11 | *** join/#debian rrehbein (~rrehbein@71-13-171-2.static.fdul.wi.charter.com) |
| 12:51.17 | *** part/#debian gregor2 (~gregor@93-82-114-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 12:56.01 | *** join/#debian suriv (579e9093@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.158.144.147) |
| 12:57.28 | *** join/#debian finga (~finga@88.151.74.70) |
| 12:58.02 | *** join/#debian paul0 (~paul0@191.191.52.36) |
| 12:58.34 | *** join/#debian Mikrop_ (~mikrop@office.bearstech.com) |
| 12:59.06 | finga | i tried to install debian jessie from https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ but at the step 'select and install software' it fails. what can i do? |
| 12:59.32 | froken_longstock | fails how? |
| 12:59.44 | *** join/#debian gandaliter (~toby@host-2-101-21-173.as13285.net) |
| 13:00.19 | *** join/#debian Fruckiwacki (fruckiwack@2001:41d0:8:7056::1) |
| 13:00.22 | *** join/#debian Psychon4ut (~tux@p5488C86B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:01.38 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 13:01.44 | finga | froken_longstock: red screen, like an standard error msg: \an installation step failed. you can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else...' is this step mandatory? |
| 13:01.48 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 13:02.04 | *** join/#debian kikimeter (~kikimeter@pdm33-h01-176-179-208-119.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 13:03.07 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.148.195.141) |
| 13:03.27 | *** join/#debian paxcoder (~paxcoder@unaffiliated/paxcoder) |
| 13:03.33 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@host-78-144-141-143.as13285.net) |
| 13:03.49 | paxcoder | any idea why i would see a bluetooth device via hcitool scan, and not bluetooth-manager? |
| 13:04.11 | Zharf | http://eclipser.xmms2.org/wat.png <3 |
| 13:05.32 | NiLon | finland upgraded the internet |
| 13:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1407] by debhelper |
| 13:07.15 | Zharf | :) |
| 13:07.49 | heurist | finga: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 13:08.00 | babilen | dpkg: tell finga -about testing installer |
| 13:08.03 | *** join/#debian tremo (~tremo@wurzeldiener.jfreitag.de) |
| 13:08.44 | *** join/#debian Jouzu (5c5a0eb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.90.14.178) |
| 13:09.08 | *** join/#debian TheNumbers_ (uid21212@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xseftaojfdhaxmux) |
| 13:09.50 | *** join/#debian valeriusL (~quassel@2a01:4f8:d16:2052::2) |
| 13:10.09 | *** join/#debian Satchmo (~Satchmo@188.94.18.67) |
| 13:10.34 | *** join/#debian Cybert1nus (~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl) |
| 13:10.44 | *** join/#debian razorfront (uid33426@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vidymuoomesckyjy) |
| 13:11.04 | *** join/#debian noisyc (~noisy@pool-72-73-46-118.clppva.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:11.16 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kcqkurpevfaswnmn) |
| 13:11.23 | *** join/#debian everjeje (uid25240@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-afdhclhpttuqegqb) |
| 13:11.59 | Jouzu | Hi, I'm trying to install debian on my laptop instead of windows 8, but when I start my laptop, I'm on the grub console. I don't know how to do to can launch debian. Can you help me plz ? |
| 13:12.18 | *** join/#debian realitygaps_ (~realityga@2a01:4a0:3::5096:aeb) |
| 13:12.30 | paxcoder | howdoi blootooth |
| 13:12.48 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 13:13.03 | *** join/#debian nyuszika7h (nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h) |
| 13:13.08 | finga | babilen: okay ;) i meant can i help you with something as an error log? |
| 13:13.26 | *** join/#debian BaT- (~timur@dzokonda.xs4all.nl) |
| 13:13.31 | *** join/#debian halt2 (~Thunderbi@83.218.157.210) |
| 13:13.31 | NiLon | Jouzu pick usb or dvd (depending where you are booting) as first boot device from bios or use F12 or similar hotkey while bios is booting |
| 13:14.02 | *** join/#debian ypks (ville@elsa.ypcs.fi) |
| 13:14.09 | *** join/#debian HicksD_ (~quassel@2a00:f10:103:201:ba27:ebff:fe28:63fa) |
| 13:14.27 | *** join/#debian johnnyb_ (~johnnyb@2a00:1028:8388:70e6:222:faff:fe4d:2680) |
| 13:14.54 | *** join/#debian CoreIT84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 13:15.00 | Jouzu | Nilon I used usb boot to install debian, i putted it at first boot device |
| 13:15.42 | *** join/#debian astRocre1p (~nez@192.241.247.61) |
| 13:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1400] by debhelper |
| 13:16.05 | *** join/#debian ghostlin_ (~ghostline@095-097-139-090.static.chello.nl) |
| 13:16.08 | *** join/#debian Shadda (mwilson@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe96:aebe) |
| 13:16.42 | *** join/#debian |Lord_Zoo| (~zoo@181.29.54.33) |
| 13:16.53 | *** join/#debian Behi_ (~textual@CPE-124-180-226-49.lns9.lon.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:17.33 | *** join/#debian horsik_ (~username@77-254-197-97.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 13:17.36 | *** join/#debian amospalla (~amospalla@unaffiliated/amospalla) |
| 13:18.03 | *** join/#debian qwyeth (~qwyeth@static-108-27-36-18.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:18.06 | Jouzu | Nilon do you mean that I have to boot on the installation usb device to launch debian ? |
| 13:18.10 | *** join/#debian trem0r (~trem0r@snakeeyes.etherninja.net) |
| 13:18.17 | *** join/#debian Behi_ (~textual@CPE-124-180-226-49.lns9.lon.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:18.28 | babilen | finga: Only if you ask an actual question :) |
| 13:18.29 | finga | connect oftc |
| 13:18.37 | *** part/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 13:18.37 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 13:18.41 | NiLon | Jouzu um if you are already booting to grub you are most likely booting from hard drive already |
| 13:19.00 | *** part/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 13:19.00 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 13:19.07 | *** join/#debian leitao_ (~breno@179-125-243-145.desktop.com.br) |
| 13:19.08 | *** part/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 13:19.08 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 13:19.13 | Jouzu | Nilon, yes I'm booting from a SSD |
| 13:19.51 | NiLon | I don't understand your problem.. |
| 13:19.52 | *** join/#debian pquarles (~pquarles@unaffiliated/pquarles) |
| 13:20.20 | *** join/#debian mattcen_ (~mattcen@c110-22-201-130.sunsh4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 13:20.25 | *** join/#debian lamasnik (~Nikolas@195.191.146.39) |
| 13:20.37 | Jouzu | Nilon In fact my laptop start but I the start stop to the grub |
| 13:20.37 | *** join/#debian mms_ (~chatzilla@triband-mum-120.62.203.48.mtnl.net.in) |
| 13:20.37 | *** join/#debian Dalgas (~pdj@dce.dongenergy.dk) |
| 13:20.41 | *** join/#debian milligan_ (~milligan@voyage.vhost.usr.no) |
| 13:20.59 | SynrG | i can make an educated guess about Jouzu's problem, though. the grub menu appears but then drops you to a prompt when you try to use it? |
| 13:21.07 | *** join/#debian Dad` (~Dad@unaffiliated/dad/x-6432127) |
| 13:21.22 | mms_ | hi i have supervior running but does not seem to run the files fro /etc/init |
| 13:21.26 | *** join/#debian lift (~lift@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:21b:21ff:feda:4ca7) |
| 13:21.30 | Jouzu | SynrG exactly |
| 13:21.31 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 13:21.33 | SynrG | Jouzu: how did you install debian? what tool did you use to make the image? |
| 13:21.43 | SynrG | the install image, i mean. |
| 13:21.52 | *** join/#debian extor (~extor@198.50.143.188) |
| 13:21.53 | *** join/#debian xBytez (~xBytez@2a00:f48:1025:feed:b00b:feed:7ae9:4cde) |
| 13:21.53 | *** join/#debian xBytez (~xBytez@unaffiliated/xbytez) |
| 13:22.01 | *** join/#debian fosser_josh (~prathames@134.146.0.4) |
| 13:22.04 | SynrG | if you use some tool to 'make USB bootable' it probably broke the installer. |
| 13:22.06 | Jouzu | SynrG I used a usb device with a debian net installation |
| 13:22.20 | SynrG | yes, but prepared how? on a window system? |
| 13:22.23 | *** join/#debian KBme (~r00t@gar13-9-83-156-138-125.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:22.24 | SynrG | and if so, with what software? |
| 13:22.45 | Jouzu | SynrG Yes windows |
| 13:22.45 | finga | babilen: i skiped the failing step and finished the installation process, but the system fails to boot. i could chroot into it and try to figure out whats going on... don't know if thats helpful |
| 13:22.46 | *** join/#debian jkw (~jkw@ooh.se) |
| 13:23.05 | Jouzu | SynrG but this usb device worked to install debian on my desktop computer |
| 13:23.17 | *** join/#debian Pontus (~ponto@2a01:2b0:301d:100:4a5b:39ff:fecb:373f) |
| 13:23.34 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@183.17.176.94) |
| 13:23.39 | SynrG | Jouzu: which OS is on your desktop computer? |
| 13:23.50 | SynrG | is it dual-booted too? |
| 13:23.57 | Jouzu | Debian |
| 13:24.09 | SynrG | so it has no other OS on it |
| 13:24.11 | babilen | finga: I would start with a working installer (i.e. the wheezy one) and use that to install wheezy (i.e. not jessie). Then upgrade that to jessie, see <wheezy->jessie> <jum> <jum caveat> ... but then you could try to repair it with, sayn <fixmbr> -- /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 13:24.16 | babilen | bbl |
| 13:24.27 | *** join/#debian ee2455 (~ee2455@unaffiliated/ee2455) |
| 13:24.29 | Jouzu | SynrG on ly laptop I try to remplace Windows 8 by Debian so it's single boot |
| 13:24.30 | mms_ | I have /etc/init.d/supervior running but then what to do so it will kickoff the /etc/init/countly-supervisor.conf |
| 13:24.30 | *** join/#debian nollidj (~stu@ma.sdf.org) |
| 13:24.41 | Jouzu | SynrG Yes my desktop only has debian |
| 13:24.54 | SynrG | Jouzu: is the laptop currently single boot too? |
| 13:25.04 | Jouzu | SynrG Yes |
| 13:25.11 | *** join/#debian huario (~huario@195-241-169-88.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 13:25.20 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 13:25.23 | SynrG | did the install finish completely, and were there any errors? |
| 13:25.32 | *** join/#debian lbatalha (~lbatalha@2a00:dcc0:eda:89:14:179:1a3f:4038) |
| 13:25.32 | *** join/#debian McLive (~McLive@www.freecraft.eu) |
| 13:25.48 | *** join/#debian cali (~cali@unaffiliated/cali) |
| 13:25.54 | Jouzu | SynrG It finnish completely |
| 13:25.58 | finga | babilen: okay, thx |
| 13:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1415] by debhelper |
| 13:26.04 | *** join/#debian nezZario (~nez@unaffiliated/nezzario) |
| 13:26.06 | SynrG | does the laptop have UEFI? |
| 13:26.23 | *** join/#debian azizLIGHT (~azizLIGHT@unaffiliated/azizlight) |
| 13:26.24 | Jouzu | SynrG I think so, but I'm not sure |
| 13:26.48 | *** join/#debian resolutions (resolution@resolutions.uplinkcorporation.net) |
| 13:26.59 | *** join/#debian DrTaft (~DrTaft@2a01:1e8:e100:82ee:208:54ff:fe56:a419) |
| 13:27.01 | SynrG | it may be an EFI related problem, but i don't know how to debug those |
| 13:27.01 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (foobar@142.196.202.161) |
| 13:27.12 | *** join/#debian mixomathoze (~mixomatho@139.39-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 13:27.12 | *** join/#debian rosseaux (~BeRo@2a00:1828:2000:859::2) |
| 13:27.13 | SynrG | hopefully someone else here does, or else that's enough of a hint for you to search for a solution |
| 13:27.13 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@siktas.com) |
| 13:27.21 | *** join/#debian niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) |
| 13:27.33 | *** join/#debian Unity (~Mitsuki@unaffiliated/unity) |
| 13:27.43 | SynrG | https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall may or may not be helpful. |
| 13:27.56 | *** join/#debian whiterice (~poeticrpm@rrcs-71-42-179-100.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 13:28.08 | *** join/#debian holmgren (~magnus@h-79-68.a163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 13:28.15 | Jouzu | SynrG ok thank you |
| 13:28.29 | *** join/#debian mo1991 (~mo1991@68.51.110.195) |
| 13:29.07 | *** join/#debian subcritical (~jaime@204.79.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 13:29.29 | *** join/#debian Jarus (~Jarus@irc.thelabmill.de) |
| 13:29.30 | *** join/#debian n2diy (~darryl@24.102.213.51.res-cmts.t132.ptd.net) |
| 13:29.40 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 13:30.00 | *** join/#debian theanalyst_ (theanalyst@open.source.rocks.my.socks.firrre.com) |
| 13:30.25 | *** join/#debian capri (svedrin@ketos.funzt-halt.net) |
| 13:30.26 | *** join/#debian euphoria (ToBeFree@freiwuppertal.de) |
| 13:30.29 | *** join/#debian ZIPY_ (~ZIPY@dslb-188-109-028-017.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 13:30.32 | huario | Why is fcron no longer in the repositories? |
| 13:30.34 | *** join/#debian ectospasm (~ectospasm@unaffiliated/ectospasm) |
| 13:31.00 | *** join/#debian realitygaps (~realityga@unaffiliated/realitygaps) |
| 13:31.02 | *** join/#debian Rikairchy (~Rik@2a01:7a0:10:151:236:17:48:1) |
| 13:31.05 | *** join/#debian mixomathoze (~mixomatho@139.39-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 13:31.17 | *** join/#debian santiago_32 (~santiago@r186-52-198-228.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 13:31.27 | *** join/#debian eest (~Brock@shell01.virtality.se) |
| 13:31.30 | *** join/#debian zz_LoRdToLsToI (filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-xlczyffeoziwganp) |
| 13:32.14 | *** join/#debian sebastian1 (~sebastian@gateway/tor-sasl/imadeanamefast) |
| 13:33.41 | Jouzu | SynrG I just tryed to run "boot" on the grub and it return me that it no load kernel, it's possible with a EFI related problem ? |
| 13:34.15 | SynrG | just a guess, since it was a win 8 system |
| 13:34.20 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@dslb-092-073-158-240.092.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 13:34.21 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 13:35.25 | *** join/#debian netkat (~me@80.79.126.176) |
| 13:35.37 | *** join/#debian gregor2 (~gregor@93-82-114-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 13:35.43 | Jouzu | SynrG ok, and this gess still probable if the windows 8 isn't the same that the debian disk that I'm trying to boot on ? |
| 13:36.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1409] by debhelper |
| 13:37.19 | SynrG | Jouzu: i have no specific expertise here. just a hunch. i had hoped someone with EFI experience would chime in and help |
| 13:37.33 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@host-78-144-141-143.as13285.net) |
| 13:37.54 | SynrG | Jouzu: not sure i understand, though. you still have win8 on a different disk? i thought you said it was single-boot ... |
| 13:37.56 | *** join/#debian bmr (bmr@nat/redhat/x-luxinxepdlgcafht) |
| 13:38.22 | *** join/#debian Busserl (~sladjan@chello084112108179.11.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 13:38.48 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 13:38.48 | *** join/#debian theToastIsDone (~theToastI@dhcp152-54-6-213.wireless.europa.renci.org) |
| 13:38.50 | Jouzu | SynrG I mean that my disk with windows8 is broken, so it's a new disk with only debian |
| 13:39.02 | *** part/#debian theToastIsDone (~theToastI@dhcp152-54-6-213.wireless.europa.renci.org) |
| 13:39.04 | SynrG | it's not windows8 that causes it |
| 13:39.11 | *** join/#debian vladhaund (vladhaund@unaffiliated/vladhaund) |
| 13:39.11 | *** join/#debian vladhaund (vladhaund@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tivqgszzettetpdl) |
| 13:39.16 | SynrG | that's only a correlation. "most systems with windows 8 have EFI" |
| 13:39.24 | SynrG | hence, my hunch it might be an EFI issue |
| 13:39.49 | Jouzu | SynrG i understand, I'll search on that way, thanks you very much |
| 13:39.58 | SynrG | no problem. good luck. |
| 13:41.05 | *** join/#debian paw (~afong@198-48-224-134.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 13:41.06 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@host-78-144-141-143.as13285.net) |
| 13:41.13 | SynrG | huario: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fcron |
| 13:41.22 | SynrG | huario: out of date and broken. removed in 2011 |
| 13:41.24 | *** join/#debian gregor2 (~gregor@93-82-114-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 13:41.25 | *** join/#debian meek_geek (~meek_geek@gateway/tor-sasl/meekgeek/x-51922446) |
| 13:41.35 | *** join/#debian ivanshmakov| (~ivanshmak@2001:470:1f13:1eb::1:1d) |
| 13:41.40 | SynrG | huario: i.e. nobody cared sufficiently about it to keep it in debian |
| 13:41.47 | *** join/#debian shroud (gunnar@icinga/team/shroud) |
| 13:42.10 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (Python1320@2001:470:27:1aa::2) |
| 13:42.24 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (Python1320@unaffiliated/python1320) |
| 13:43.03 | *** join/#debian Tarjaizaid (~Tgz@unaffiliated/tarjaizaid) |
| 13:44.00 | *** join/#debian BBQ_69 (~BBQ_69@cpc67843-slam8-2-0-cust229.2-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 13:44.10 | meek_geek | hi |
| 13:44.17 | *** join/#debian arun1 (~sudina@117.196.146.67) |
| 13:44.19 | *** join/#debian iveevue (~na@unaffiliated/iveevue) |
| 13:44.25 | *** join/#debian yxol (~none@46.246.89.153) |
| 13:45.00 | *** join/#debian hairyraven (~nobody@176.122.224.54) |
| 13:45.07 | froken_longstock | aloha |
| 13:45.56 | arun1 | hi all. i had just started updated on debian. had almost 138 mb\ |
| 13:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1419] by debhelper |
| 13:46.03 | *** join/#debian Zambezi_ (Zulu@bnc.from.hostbay.nu) |
| 13:46.04 | arun1 | now it stuck on checking updagtes |
| 13:48.01 | arun1 | its been a long time. how long should i wait? |
| 13:48.36 | ChrisH | arun1: can you show what happened so far on paste.debian.net ? |
| 13:48.50 | *** join/#debian magnulu (~magnulu@5.254.148.95) |
| 13:50.03 | arun1 | how to do that? |
| 13:50.18 | *** join/#debian gandaliter (~toby@host-2-101-21-173.as13285.net) |
| 13:50.22 | arun1 | all the updates were downloaded and installled |
| 13:51.12 | *** join/#debian yano (~yano@freenode/staff/yano) |
| 13:51.14 | ChrisH | copy and paste the output? |
| 13:52.28 | arun1 | and how to get the output? sorry very new to debian |
| 13:54.20 | ChrisH | arun1: If you upgrade the release notes suggest to use screen with logfile. thats one way to do it. or copy-and-paste with your mouse... |
| 13:54.31 | *** join/#debian sandman13 (~sandman@182.93.68.161) |
| 13:54.39 | *** join/#debian msmith_ (msmith@nat/acquia/x-npiebwqilqytvxmx) |
| 13:54.42 | xiqy | arun1: What tool are you using to update your packages? Command line or a graphical interface? |
| 13:55.00 | arun1 | graPHICAL INTERFACE |
| 13:55.05 | *** join/#debian Ericx2x (~textual@ip67-154-98-2.z98-154-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 13:55.24 | xiqy | Which desktop environment? |
| 13:55.37 | arun1 | its gnome 3 |
| 13:55.56 | *** join/#debian Guest53424 (~tcpman@85-220-31-214.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 13:56.07 | *** join/#debian jwheare_local (~sid1@5751ed16.skybroadband.com) |
| 13:56.30 | xiqy | In the lower left corner of the window there is a button labeled "Details". Click on it. |
| 13:56.54 | arun1 | they are all blank\ |
| 13:57.02 | *** join/#debian DividedByZero (~usr@p5B0F71FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:57.09 | xiqy | "They"? |
| 13:57.10 | arun1 | at the bottom i have 82 updates and then quit button |
| 13:57.13 | *** join/#debian rojem (~rojem@199.4.160.10) |
| 13:57.25 | arun1 | the update and details box are blank now after the updates got installed |
| 13:57.26 | ChrisH | might we switch to CLI? |
| 13:58.04 | arun1 | ok |
| 13:58.04 | marcidy | any idea why live debian 7.6 would freeze (as in, have to reboot, no cursor movement) while doing a dd if=/dev/sdb5 of=/mnt/someotherdrive/somefile.bin ? I've tried 3 times so far and it freezes at different points each time. /dev/sdb5 is not mounted at the time. any pointers appreciated. |
| 13:58.11 | *** join/#debian fusmu (~fusmu@gate.dpc.bg) |
| 13:58.44 | ChrisH | marcidy: is /mnt/someotherdrive/somefile.bin on any USB connected device? |
| 13:59.07 | marcidy | ChrisH: nope, it's another SATA disk. Space is OK. |
| 13:59.19 | SynrGy | marcidy: because /dev/sdb5 is on a disk that's throwing errors. check dmesg |
| 13:59.31 | marcidy | ChrisH: but im using a flash drive to boot live debian |
| 13:59.40 | SynrGy | i.e. failing drive |
| 13:59.48 | marcidy | SynrGy: lovely, will check, thanks |
| 13:59.56 | xiqy | arun1: Do you use sudo? |
| 14:00.05 | SynrGy | also use smartctl to see if any errors are logged |
| 14:00.17 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 14:00.18 | *** join/#debian teraflops (~teraflops@mysticemporium.cf) |
| 14:00.56 | ChrisH | marcidy: in case of a failing disk, consider using ddrescue - you could also use bs=1M or similar to improve the performance |
| 14:01.56 | arun1 | http://postimg.org/image/lunqtm8od/ |
| 14:02.14 | *** join/#debian rich- (~GOD@unaffiliated/rich-) |
| 14:02.59 | *** join/#debian Ericx2x_ (~textual@ip67-154-98-2.z98-154-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 14:03.16 | xiqy | Yeah, that doesn't look right. Exit the GUI and open a terminal instead. |
| 14:03.33 | ChrisH | arun1: _I_ would use the quit option and run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade in a terminal as root, instead. |
| 14:03.37 | marcidy | SynrGy: no errors on last nights short and long tests, but drive is oldage and pre-fail on a few items. Probably worth chucking it. ChristH: Thanks for tip, will try that with a new drive. |
| 14:03.50 | arun1 | ok |
| 14:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1426] by debhelper |
| 14:06.34 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 14:06.46 | *** join/#debian bbtech (~bbtech@c-67-160-52-74.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 14:07.07 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@177.96.115.93) |
| 14:07.07 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 14:07.13 | *** join/#debian j0z_ (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 14:07.49 | SynrGy | marcidy: when you said 'lock up' that was my first thought. nothing in dmesg? |
| 14:09.17 | *** join/#debian tokik (~tokik@KD106130084092.au-net.ne.jp) |
| 14:09.41 | *** join/#debian T0rch (~T0rch@187.20.225.90) |
| 14:10.12 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@177.96.115.93) |
| 14:10.12 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 14:10.14 | *** join/#debian j0z_ (~j0z@177.96.115.93) |
| 14:10.15 | *** join/#debian j0z_ (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 14:11.28 | *** join/#debian frangor (~frangor@unaffiliated/frangor) |
| 14:12.28 | *** join/#debian NicksCode (~nick@ppp046176095232.access.hol.gr) |
| 14:12.47 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-88-132-114-184.prtelecom.hu) |
| 14:13.14 | NicksCode | I have a directory of files with unknown characters (different language) whats the easiest way to rename everything to 1.extension 2.extension etc? |
| 14:13.22 | NicksCode | So its easily readable by other programs |
| 14:13.26 | *** join/#debian vagn (~vagn@72.10.119.241) |
| 14:15.03 | *** join/#debian pksadiq (~user@27.59.61.62) |
| 14:15.33 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.148.195.141) |
| 14:18.15 | jhutchins | NicksCode: Probably rename |
| 14:18.40 | abrotman | wonders if iconv could do that |
| 14:19.07 | abrotman | judd: info iconf --release wheezy |
| 14:19.09 | judd | No package named 'iconf' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 14:19.09 | ChrisH | NicksCode: like counter=1 ; for i in * do ; mv $i ${counter}.extension ; (( counter = $counter + 1 )) ; done |
| 14:19.15 | abrotman | judd: info iconv --release wheezy |
| 14:19.16 | judd | No package named 'iconv' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 14:19.17 | *** join/#debian unop (unop@nat/citrix/x-fmuiouyubtqzfgie) |
| 14:19.20 | abrotman | hrm .. /me gives up |
| 14:19.57 | *** join/#debian capiira (~capiira@p5089635A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:20.18 | SynrG | abrotman: libc-bin |
| 14:20.38 | abrotman | it has a man page! |
| 14:20.47 | ChrisH | NicksCode: you might want to backup and use echo "mv $i ${counter}.extension" first |
| 14:21.13 | NicksCode | ChrisH doing the backup right now and ill try that thanks |
| 14:21.58 | *** join/#debian sharky (~sharky@lak-39-124.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) |
| 14:22.24 | jhutchins | Or, y'know, you could use the rename perl script with regex. It's usually installed by default. |
| 14:23.04 | caveat- | I have systemd but not systemd-sysv init installed. So my debian system isn't using systemd as init system, but still sysvinit, right? |
| 14:24.21 | *** join/#debian sebastian1 (~sebastian@gateway/tor-sasl/imadeanamefast) |
| 14:24.56 | NicksCode | caveat- Actually wondering about that too I still have init as PID 1 |
| 14:25.30 | *** join/#debian liquidAnger (~sava6@46.10.220.122) |
| 14:26.10 | *** part/#debian liquidAnger (~sava6@46.10.220.122) |
| 14:26.16 | froken_longstock | I thought INIT was always PID 1 |
| 14:26.31 | *** join/#debian c3w (~user@unaffiliated/c3w) |
| 14:26.32 | heurist | even with systemd pid1 will be init |
| 14:27.34 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~enkrypt@d51A48B68.access.telenet.be) |
| 14:27.57 | caveat- | so, how we can undoubtedly check/say our system is using systemd as init system? |
| 14:28.08 | jhutchins | !systemd |
| 14:28.09 | dpkg | systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd is shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and will be be the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". https://wiki.debian.org/systemd #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. See also <why systemd>. |
| 14:28.31 | heurist | caveat-: ls -l /sbin/init |
| 14:28.37 | caveat- | ps aux | grep -i systemd shows the daemon running root 2912 0.0 0.0 4052 256 ? S 10:55 0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind |
| 14:28.55 | *** join/#debian greyscale (~quassel@quentin.thru.io) |
| 14:29.00 | heurist | caveat-: that just says that logind is running |
| 14:29.43 | caveat- | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 35204 Jun 8 02:00 /sbin/init |
| 14:30.00 | heurist | caveat-: for systemd it will say: lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 20 Jul 5 14:33 /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd |
| 14:30.08 | caveat- | Debian GNU/Linux testing (jessie) |
| 14:30.35 | heurist | that is a lot of w in those permissions? is that right? |
| 14:31.13 | heurist | -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 1027488 Jul 5 14:33 /lib/systemd/systemd that is better |
| 14:31.32 | *** join/#debian holy_moses (~pi@host86-129-194-214.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 14:31.40 | holy_moses | hi everyone, noob here with a simple question. i'm trying to do something difficult (for me) before i do, i want to double check i know my root password for my raspberry pi (raspian wheezy) is there an easy way to prompt me for my password (i don't want to change it - i just need a few goes at it to know which one it is) i tried typing in sudo su but i was abble to access the root without raspian prmopting me |
| 14:31.42 | holy_moses | for my password. anyone know any good tips. cheers |
| 14:32.11 | abrotman | holy_moses: su - |
| 14:32.14 | abrotman | no sudo |
| 14:32.27 | heurist | holy_moses: try ctrl-alt-f2 and log in as root? not sure with pi though |
| 14:32.31 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 14:33.11 | holy_moses | THANK YOU!!! |
| 14:33.25 | holy_moses | su - worked perfectly! |
| 14:34.09 | *** join/#debian bakaneko (~d@kuzh.polytechnique.fr) |
| 14:34.46 | *** join/#debian vagn (~vagn@72.10.119.241) |
| 14:35.23 | *** part/#debian holy_moses (~pi@host86-129-194-214.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 14:35.34 | *** join/#debian gregor2 (~gregor@93-82-114-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 14:36.23 | *** join/#debian jesselang (~jesse@73.185.155.233) |
| 14:36.35 | *** join/#debian capiira (~capiira@p5089635A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:37.37 | *** join/#debian gregor2 (~gregor@93-82-114-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 14:38.02 | jesselang | Glade on Jessie requires GTK 3. I can't seem to find a GTK3 library for Python. Only wxgtk. Anyone know how to use a glade file with Python? |
| 14:38.05 | *** join/#debian micechal (~quassel@agpq63.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 14:38.15 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p54A85FBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:38.18 | *** join/#debian Zero_Flag (~Zero_Flag@gateway/tor-sasl/zeroflag/x-93430316) |
| 14:39.40 | *** join/#debian monod (~monod@95.232.26.195) |
| 14:39.41 | *** join/#debian bytecounter (~bytecount@dyndsl-085-016-026-245.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 14:39.56 | *** join/#debian monod_ (~monod@95.232.26.195) |
| 14:44.09 | *** join/#debian Psychon4ut (~tux@p5488C86B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:45.11 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 14:45.26 | *** part/#debian fosser_josh (~prathames@134.146.0.4) |
| 14:45.54 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@91.218.144.129) |
| 14:46.03 | *** join/#debian Haswell (~Haswell@unaffiliated/haswell) |
| 14:46.54 | *** join/#debian huario (~huario@195-241-169-88.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 14:48.52 | *** join/#debian randy (~Randy@122.169.142.164) |
| 14:49.01 | NicksCode | Oh and 1 more question: I have a single file with non english characters, how can I rename it(obviously cant tab autocomplete because the first character is non english) |
| 14:49.58 | *** join/#debian bitcrunsher (~androirc@dyndsl-080-228-183-009.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 14:50.30 | heurist | NicksCode: mv tab tab copy.paste? |
| 14:50.45 | *** join/#debian rasper (~Android@36.58.228.124) |
| 14:50.57 | NicksCode | heurist im on full console cant copy paste |
| 14:50.59 | ChrisH | NicksCode: ls -li ; get the inmum and then use find -inum | xagrs mv |
| 14:51.05 | SynrGy | 100% non-english? mv *somechars foo |
| 14:51.06 | heurist | NicksCode: mv ?the_rest_of_the_name ... |
| 14:51.16 | SynrGy | ya |
| 14:51.32 | *** join/#debian oskie (usel@lilyleaf.info) |
| 14:51.34 | NicksCode | SynrGy the onyl english part is the extension and there are other files with that extension |
| 14:51.36 | formorer | midnight commander (mc) also does a good job when dealing with borken files |
| 14:51.38 | NicksCode | ChrisH let me tyr that |
| 14:51.52 | ChrisH | TMTOWTDI |
| 14:52.05 | MrFrood | NicksCode: can you use screen? if so use screens copy & paste buffer |
| 14:52.06 | heurist | NicksCode: the find and inode solution is a good one |
| 14:52.19 | SynrGy | sounds like a party game |
| 14:52.37 | *** join/#debian Corerris (~Corerris@c-178-73-196-235.anonymous.at.anonine.com) |
| 14:52.55 | SynrGy | "find the inode" |
| 14:53.15 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~user@2001:4ca0:0:f300:2c0:caff:fe75:c1e2) |
| 14:54.12 | *** join/#debian xcynthi (~xcynthx@unaffiliated/xcynthi) |
| 14:54.46 | heurist | SynrGy: that sounds like a scary game, if you system said that to you, you would be worried (: |
| 14:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1433] by debhelper |
| 14:56.43 | *** join/#debian AsumFace (~asumface@ip1f12ed0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 14:57.52 | *** join/#debian bboiye (~bboiye@208.94.181.112) |
| 14:58.56 | SynrGy | heurist: context is everything. most party games wouldn't be fun if they were real. "pin the tail on the donkey"? sounds like a recipe for disaster. |
| 15:00.04 | *** part/#debian sammi` (sammi@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-tsyebuixdxtopssl) |
| 15:00.22 | *** join/#debian sammi` (sammi@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-tsyebuixdxtopssl) |
| 15:00.28 | *** join/#debian icebourg (~icebourg@c-75-70-18-13.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 15:00.39 | *** part/#debian bboiye (~bboiye@208.94.181.112) |
| 15:00.44 | heurist | SynrGy: donkeys kick hard. They use them to protect sheep since they heard-bond with then, eat the same grass and *kill* thieves. |
| 15:00.48 | *** join/#debian RyanTG (~RyanTG@65.100.106.194) |
| 15:00.59 | *** join/#debian pLk (~sherwood@xdslae001.osnanet.de) |
| 15:01.40 | heurist | SynrGy: and what is a game without a bit of fear? but off-topic. |
| 15:02.35 | kor | "find the inode. i hid it pretty well. good luck!" |
| 15:02.53 | *** join/#debian namoamitabuddha (~namoamita@unaffiliated/namoamitabuddha) |
| 15:02.55 | SynrGy | yes, OT. sorry :) |
| 15:03.00 | *** join/#debian MoonkYang (~moonkyang@23.226.229.227) |
| 15:03.04 | *** join/#debian TheLive1 (~sajjad@62-210-141-30.rev.poneytelecom.eu) |
| 15:03.12 | namoamitabuddha | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-flexible |
| 15:03.18 | Stummi | copy & paste is bad idea for files with special chars |
| 15:03.34 | namoamitabuddha | Where are vmlinuz & initrd.gz? |
| 15:03.36 | *** join/#debian gr8 (~gr8@dslc-082-082-144-029.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:03.37 | Stummi | since ls may not print every character as it is |
| 15:04.03 | *** join/#debian Eleganza (~Eleganza@gateway/tor-sasl/eleganza) |
| 15:04.06 | gr8 | hi. how do I install the GNU moe text editor on debian wheezy? |
| 15:04.30 | *** join/#debian brontosaurusrex (~b@94.103.64.12) |
| 15:04.30 | *** join/#debian brontosaurusrex (~b@unaffiliated/brontosaurusrex) |
| 15:04.34 | namoamitabuddha | It's in the subsection "Manually copying files to the USB stick -- the flexible way" of the installation manual. |
| 15:04.51 | jesselang | Figured it out. Have to use gir. |
| 15:04.58 | nkuttler | namoamitabuddha: you don't have to do that. doing 4.3.2 is enough |
| 15:05.04 | Stummi | NicksCode, if you are on bash, this will work: files=(*); declare -p files; rm "${files[<number_of_file>]}" |
| 15:05.09 | *** join/#debian chwy (~chwy@unaffiliated/chwy) |
| 15:05.37 | NicksCode | Stummi did it with inode |
| 15:05.40 | namoamitabuddha | nkuttler: Um, I need the flexible way. |
| 15:06.29 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@cpe-071-071-210-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 15:06.47 | Stummi | okay |
| 15:06.54 | nkuttler | namoamitabuddha: iirc you can download those files from where you get the installer as well.. or get them from the installer image |
| 15:07.00 | namoamitabuddha | nkuttler: Since there's something more in my USB stick. |
| 15:08.10 | namoamitabuddha | nkuttler: Well, but when having installed squeeze, I remember that it should have been fetched from hd-media/vmlinuz, etc. |
| 15:08.37 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 15:08.38 | namoamitabuddha | nkuttler: Fetching them directly from iso file doesn't work. I don't know what happens in wheezy. |
| 15:08.45 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 15:08.52 | nkuttler | namoamitabuddha: yeah, haven't used that method in a while |
| 15:09.10 | *** join/#debian TheLive1 (~sajjad@h31-3-255-162.host.redstation.co.uk) |
| 15:09.14 | *** join/#debian fooctrl (~havoc@dhcp-077-250-179-234.chello.nl) |
| 15:09.34 | heurist | namoamitabuddha: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 15:09.47 | nkuttler | ah, there you go |
| 15:09.49 | jhutchins | namoamitabuddha: I don't believe the isos use vmlinux, they use isolinux. |
| 15:09.54 | *** join/#debian KBme (~r00t@gar13-9-83-156-138-125.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:10.25 | heurist | jhutchins: isolinux is a bootloader, still needs a kernel. |
| 15:11.43 | namoamitabuddha | heurist: Thanks! It should have been clarified in the installation manual. |
| 15:11.43 | gr8 | ok I got it already |
| 15:11.44 | huario | With the date command, is it possible to specify something like 'the next time it's 16:00', regardless of whether that's today or tomorrow? |
| 15:11.45 | *** part/#debian gr8 (~gr8@dslc-082-082-144-029.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:12.35 | *** join/#debian staylor (~staylor@mail.au-zone.com) |
| 15:13.01 | nkuttler | huario: what do you mean? |
| 15:13.09 | *** join/#debian bline79 (~Name@pfs01.lkz.foresightint.com) |
| 15:13.18 | nosklo | huario: in which context? Are you writing a script? |
| 15:13.33 | *** join/#debian jas4711 (~jas@2001:16d8:cca1:0:f2de:f1ff:fe16:509b) |
| 15:13.58 | *** join/#debian pankid (~pan@73.191.253.36) |
| 15:15.10 | *** join/#debian meaneye (~meaneye@bzq-79-177-54-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 15:15.13 | jhutchins | huario: You can do that with at or with cron. |
| 15:16.06 | huario | I want to rctwake until 7:00 in the morning, at which point my system should startup automatically. If I do this through (date '+%s' -d '07:00 tomorrow'), it gets messed up when I run the command after midnight |
| 15:16.59 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 15:17.18 | huario | Indeed with a script nosklo |
| 15:18.06 | nkuttler | sounds like your script needs a little more logic |
| 15:18.11 | huario | So if it's before midnight, it should get the output of "07:00 tomorrow", but if it's after midnight, simply 07:00 |
| 15:18.32 | huario | Does date have a feature for that or do I need to script? |
| 15:19.36 | jhutchins | huario: If it's before midnight, why do you need "tomorrow"? |
| 15:20.11 | *** join/#debian enZer0 (~0ilm@tjure.netzquadrat.de) |
| 15:20.21 | forcer | I guess the question is "what can I write instead of 'tomorrow' to get the next or upcoming 7:00?"... |
| 15:20.40 | huario | what forcer said |
| 15:21.03 | *** part/#debian MinusFour (~m1n054@gateway/tor-sasl/minusfour) |
| 15:22.20 | *** join/#debian shaolin (~quassel@inet-nat.tos.helsenord.no) |
| 15:22.34 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.177.246) |
| 15:23.27 | jhutchins | How about nothing? Unless it's befor 07:00 today it won't matter. |
| 15:23.51 | huario | jhutchins that's the point. Sometimes I run the command before 07:00 |
| 15:24.05 | nosklo | huario: maybe you want to ask on #bash or something |
| 15:24.24 | nosklo | It doesn't sound like a debian question |
| 15:24.28 | jhutchins | huario: before 07:00 or before 19:00? |
| 15:24.53 | huario | kk |
| 15:25.14 | *** join/#debian kris (~kris@aazw233.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 15:25.27 | kris | Hey guys, I have a mysql init script in /etc/init.d |
| 15:25.38 | kris | after reboot the mysql doesnt start automatically |
| 15:25.39 | *** join/#debian tcpman (~tcpman@85-220-31-214.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 15:25.45 | kris | i have to manually do /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 15:25.49 | kris | what can cause this? |
| 15:25.55 | kris | debian 6.0 |
| 15:27.06 | *** join/#debian stmaher (~stephen@80.68.89.200) |
| 15:27.32 | stmaher | hi guys.. does anyone know how to find out in mailman what lists archives are publically accessible? |
| 15:27.33 | heurist | kris: update-rc.d mysql enable |
| 15:27.36 | nosklo | kris: is it linked on /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc3.d etc? |
| 15:27.41 | shaolin | which distros are you running? (MX-14) |
| 15:27.50 | shaolin | (antiX based) |
| 15:27.51 | *** join/#debian GeekMan1222|Desk (~Matt@75-143-252-99.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) |
| 15:28.44 | *** part/#debian vagn (~vagn@72.10.119.241) |
| 15:28.58 | jelly-home | stmaher: just look at the contents of /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ |
| 15:29.25 | stmaher | jelly-home Thank you .. |
| 15:29.31 | jhutchins | kris: Did you use something like rcconf to activate the script? |
| 15:30.00 | jhutchins | kris: Or what heurist suggested. |
| 15:31.39 | *** join/#debian Jafura (~Jean-Fran@2a02:2788:114:11ce:7ce4:4b46:1d15:bc5d) |
| 15:32.25 | *** join/#debian beardy_ (~beardy@unaffiliated/beardy) |
| 15:32.26 | *** join/#debian phpp (~phpp@89.246.172.2) |
| 15:32.41 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exerruhrvcmjusew) |
| 15:33.49 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-99-32-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 15:33.49 | *** part/#debian jesselang (~jesse@73.185.155.233) |
| 15:34.21 | *** join/#debian earthian (~ea@gw.uk.fostral.net) |
| 15:34.48 | *** join/#debian Eurbus (~Eurbus@ip72-208-106-129.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:34.58 | *** join/#debian _motorhead (~motorhead@bfj224.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 15:37.03 | *** join/#debian ced4no (~ecedano@186.93.194.89) |
| 15:37.32 | *** join/#debian zanchoPa1sa (~pi@186-105-109-37.baf.movistar.cl) |
| 15:37.49 | *** join/#debian saurav (~saurav@202.166.205.214) |
| 15:38.04 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@host-78-144-141-143.as13285.net) |
| 15:38.09 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@cpe-071-071-210-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 15:43.55 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.237.134.227) |
| 15:43.57 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 15:44.33 | *** join/#debian redeyedman (~galym@37.151.155.128) |
| 15:44.36 | *** join/#debian gregor2 (~gregor@93-82-114-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 15:46.53 | redeyedman | hi, is it possibly to disable powersaving for all components of my PC in debian without rebuilding kernel ? i don't need that annoying powersave, as it decreases system performance |
| 15:47.57 | *** join/#debian saurav (~saurav@202.166.205.214) |
| 15:48.21 | *** join/#debian BlindP (~blindp@ip4-95-82-170-7.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 15:48.46 | *** join/#debian sandman13 (~sandman@182.93.68.161) |
| 15:48.51 | *** join/#debian squisher (~squisher@2601:0:580:8be:3285:a9ff:fe9c:4b04) |
| 15:48.51 | *** join/#debian squisher (~squisher@xfce/goodies-developer/squisher) |
| 15:48.51 | heurist | redeyedman: you should not have to rebuild the kernel, most power-management has configuration options, what specifically are you wanting to change? |
| 15:48.52 | redeyedman | i need permanently disable usb-autosuspend, hda-intel suspend, ethernet suspend and etc |
| 15:49.52 | heurist | redeyedman: I think there are boot parameters for most of those, ask google. |
| 15:50.09 | redeyedman | also i need permanently set governor to performance instead of ondemand |
| 15:50.35 | redeyedman | ok |
| 15:51.05 | heurist | redeyedman: governor is easy https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling |
| 15:52.13 | *** join/#debian rojem (~rojem@199.4.160.10) |
| 15:52.51 | redeyedman | heurist: thx, i found it |
| 15:52.53 | *** join/#debian amoise (~amoise@172.56.22.164) |
| 15:53.50 | *** part/#debian Mahjongg (~Mahjongg@unaffiliated/mrkeuner) |
| 15:53.53 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@244-79-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 15:53.57 | *** join/#debian parameter1 (~parameter@c13-65.i07-4.onvol.net) |
| 15:55.38 | *** join/#debian systmkor (~systmkor@unaffiliated/systmkor) |
| 15:56.19 | *** join/#debian gswain (~gswain@71.39.116.1) |
| 15:57.05 | *** join/#debian pcre (~quassel@manz-5f74a3a4.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 15:57.20 | *** join/#debian sakang (~chatzilla@108-240-29-53.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:00.57 | *** join/#debian huario (~huario@195-241-169-88.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 16:02.58 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 16:04.38 | *** join/#debian DividedByZero (~usr@p5B0F71FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:04.43 | *** join/#debian cheetah2 (~cheetah2@181.51.254.116) |
| 16:05.08 | *** join/#debian osmo_SMS (osmo_SMS@92.84.170.250) |
| 16:05.42 | *** join/#debian theToastIsDone (~theToastI@dhcp152-54-6-213.wireless.europa.renci.org) |
| 16:06.27 | heurist | !tell redeyedman -about guidelines |
| 16:06.31 | heurist | !tell redeyedman -about pm |
| 16:07.14 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 16:07.59 | *** join/#debian d0liver (~david@ip70-185-196-244.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 16:08.35 | saurav | can debian run on acer aspire 1810t |
| 16:09.11 | saurav | i have tried all the buntu variants and while booting every version just could not boot up and went into the root shell(busybox shell) |
| 16:09.13 | saurav | ?? |
| 16:09.27 | *** join/#debian ckt1g3r (~0utl4w@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) |
| 16:09.28 | r420r | saurav , you can try any livecd |
| 16:09.43 | r420r | kernel is same |
| 16:09.43 | saurav | i tried, live cd works fine but cannot install |
| 16:09.54 | saurav | yes, thats why i was wondering :) |
| 16:10.01 | r420r | hmm |
| 16:10.10 | r420r | what it say at installing ? |
| 16:10.27 | saurav | rk420r, is there something such as a bios restriction with install linux on certain computers |
| 16:10.42 | d0liver | Hey guys, I just finished installing jessie on my new Alienware 14 laptop. Everything is working well except that when I finished the installation the windows partition wasn't detected and so now there's no option to boot from it. I had to delete the recovery partition which is where I put the root filesystem for debian. What do I need to do to make grub find windows? |
| 16:10.42 | saurav | rk420r , no they just installed fine |
| 16:10.43 | *** join/#debian sssilver_ (~sssilver@99-47-180-251.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:10.46 | *** join/#debian fstd_ (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 16:10.53 | *** join/#debian Jegeva (~Jegeva@cable-78.29.235.126.coditel.net) |
| 16:11.11 | *** join/#debian mikeym (~discovery@textual/developer/mikeym) |
| 16:11.15 | r420r | saurav , mostly linux is about booting etc.. |
| 16:11.19 | r420r | and hdd |
| 16:11.25 | d0liver | Well, the partition was detected I guess but there's no option to boot from it |
| 16:11.27 | r420r | do you have ssd ? or hdd ? |
| 16:11.33 | saurav | r420r , hdd |
| 16:11.36 | heurist | d0liver: first off try grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 16:11.55 | r420r | saurav did you try different linux ? |
| 16:11.59 | saurav | rk420r , its an old machine acer aspire 1810t |
| 16:12.11 | saurav | rk420r , yes fedora |
| 16:12.16 | r420r | is it done ? |
| 16:12.28 | saurav | r420r , installing fedora? |
| 16:12.31 | r420r | yeah |
| 16:12.49 | d0liver | heurist, http://pastebin.com/PymJDZXa |
| 16:12.50 | r420r | can you see fdisk -l on livecd ? |
| 16:13.00 | *** join/#debian ThreadKiLL (~bisdak@125.60.248.244) |
| 16:13.04 | *** part/#debian ThreadKiLL (~bisdak@125.60.248.244) |
| 16:13.05 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@183.37.244.195) |
| 16:13.08 | saurav | r420r , yes i had installed it but the same problem persisted so I installed win7 back on it which worked |
| 16:13.15 | *** join/#debian Ericx2x (~textual@ip67-154-98-2.z98-154-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 16:13.25 | saurav | r420r , yes it didnt show the swap partition |
| 16:13.32 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 16:13.43 | r420r | saurav your system freezing ? |
| 16:14.03 | saurav | r420r , while installing? |
| 16:14.07 | heurist | d0liver: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 16:14.08 | *** join/#debian crsuarez (~crsuarez@181.143.226.148) |
| 16:14.19 | r420r | without swap i mean |
| 16:14.21 | *** join/#debian yuyu (~yuyu@KD125055027107.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 16:14.23 | *** join/#debian c3w (~user@unaffiliated/c3w) |
| 16:14.32 | pcre | Hi guys. Hi. Some how the desktop file i have created is not being loaded to the database. Even though "desktop-file-validate" does not show any errors. The new mimetype + icon are OK, but not the application itself. |
| 16:14.36 | d0liver | mmk |
| 16:14.41 | pcre | https://github.com/d4ndo/checksumjack/tree/master/linux |
| 16:14.41 | saurav | r420r , no |
| 16:14.45 | *** part/#debian redeyedman (~galym@37.151.155.128) |
| 16:14.48 | pcre | ^- repository |
| 16:14.54 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 16:14.54 | *** part/#debian crsuarez (~crsuarez@181.143.226.148) |
| 16:14.57 | Walex2 | my system was also "freezing" without the swap partition, it is a well known issue |
| 16:15.00 | *** join/#debian WormDude (~wormfood@183.37.246.140) |
| 16:15.10 | r420r | yeah , Walex2 |
| 16:15.19 | r420r | i was using 2gb swap with 1g ram |
| 16:15.36 | saurav | r420r , Walex2 , but i dunno what is the problem with swap |
| 16:15.57 | pcre | I'm using update-desktop-database to refresh the database. |
| 16:15.58 | Walex2 | the real cause is that 'kswapd0' starts working furiously, taking 100% of a CPU and doing mad IO |
| 16:16.16 | saurav | r420r , Walex2 , okay... |
| 16:16.37 | r420r | saurav did you search your problem on google ? |
| 16:16.47 | r420r | it could be hardware problem too |
| 16:16.52 | Walex2 | saurav: r420r: in my case this was because '/tmp/' was on 'tmpfs' and large |
| 16:16.56 | saurav | r420r , yes i have the log and the boot report on a forum |
| 16:17.03 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-178-48-154-32.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 16:17.13 | r420r | can you give link ? |
| 16:17.22 | saurav | r420r , yes i also think it is a hardware problem |
| 16:17.27 | saurav | r420r , sure :) |
| 16:17.36 | *** join/#debian mixomathoze (~mixomatho@248.145-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 16:18.07 | heurist | pcre: is the .desktop file in the right place? is the application in the right place? |
| 16:18.20 | *** join/#debian Tjati (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/tjati) |
| 16:19.08 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 16:19.22 | pcre | heurist: desktop is at /usr/share/applications/ . The binary is at /usr/local/bin |
| 16:19.34 | r420r | Walex2 you can use swap with dd too |
| 16:19.34 | saurav | r420r , http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f64/busybox-shell-error-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04-a-769834.html |
| 16:20.00 | pcre | heurist: Does the binary belong to /usr/bin ? |
| 16:20.26 | heurist | pcre: that is not where the .desktop file you linked points, change the exec and tryexec lines in the .desktop |
| 16:20.51 | *** join/#debian juantelez (~weechat@unaffiliated/juantelez) |
| 16:21.12 | pcre | heurist: wow. I guess you solved it. |
| 16:22.29 | *** join/#debian TheQuestionmark (~Me@v22013111875415224.yourvserver.net) |
| 16:23.46 | *** join/#debian DomaMuff1n (~BotaniCar@93-141-111-196.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 16:24.46 | r420r | saurav did you check your all hdd ? |
| 16:24.58 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@187.107.9.56) |
| 16:24.58 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 16:25.20 | *** join/#debian dundel (~daniel@190.98.82.213) |
| 16:25.41 | *** join/#debian justanotheruser (~Justan@128.211.171.2) |
| 16:25.42 | *** join/#debian justanotheruser (~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser) |
| 16:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1439] by debhelper |
| 16:26.10 | r420r | saurav , i think problem is your hdd |
| 16:26.18 | *** join/#debian bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) |
| 16:26.31 | saurav | r420r , okay, so any way to solve it? |
| 16:26.32 | r420r | Mounting failed: mount: unknown filesystem type '' |
| 16:26.32 | *** join/#debian neglesaks (~neglesaks@82.211.198.249) |
| 16:27.00 | saurav | r420r , yes that was the problem i encountered with all linux, but not with windows |
| 16:27.02 | *** join/#debian |xk05| (~xk05@70.176-62-69.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 16:27.18 | r420r | saurav , you can try remove all hdd with dd |
| 16:27.21 | r420r | or fdisk |
| 16:27.51 | saurav | r420r , i will try that but i have not yet |
| 16:27.58 | r420r | saurav , it doesnt change anything when you format it |
| 16:28.04 | *** join/#debian TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@cm191.iota111.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 16:28.05 | r420r | old info in your hdd |
| 16:28.19 | r420r | you can try fix programs |
| 16:28.25 | saurav | r420r , so even when you format, the config files are there? |
| 16:28.36 | pcre | heurist: Thx. I was so bussy searching for error messages. I didnt think of the path. |
| 16:28.38 | r420r | it is about mbr etc.. |
| 16:28.48 | r420r | format removing your files |
| 16:28.52 | heurist | pcre: it happens |
| 16:29.00 | saurav | r420r , okay. i didnt know that |
| 16:29.06 | *** join/#debian ohich (~ohich@94.26.97.227) |
| 16:29.18 | saurav | r420r , so i guess i have to format it again with fdisk this time? |
| 16:29.20 | r420r | saurav, i was installing openbsd,gentoo,windows on same laptop |
| 16:29.23 | r420r | and freebsd too |
| 16:29.24 | r420r | =) |
| 16:29.45 | r420r | saurav , you can try fix programs |
| 16:29.49 | saurav | r420r , wow, did you do anything besides normal formating? |
| 16:29.56 | r420r | wait |
| 16:30.00 | saurav | r420r , okay |
| 16:30.38 | *** join/#debian msmith_ (msmith@nat/acquia/x-wyhlemhqiriihhyn) |
| 16:30.57 | *** join/#debian theToastIsDone (~theToastI@dhcp152-54-6-213.wireless.europa.renci.org) |
| 16:31.06 | r420r | saurav http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsck |
| 16:31.19 | jhutchins | r420r: fdisk only builds the partition tble. |
| 16:31.25 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@46.56.66.0) |
| 16:31.33 | *** join/#debian theToastIsDone (~theToastI@dhcp152-54-6-213.wireless.europa.renci.org) |
| 16:31.38 | saurav | r420r , thank you so much :D |
| 16:31.59 | jhutchins | saurav: fdisk only builds the partition tble. |
| 16:32.02 | r420r | saurav , someppl using dd but it could hurt your disk |
| 16:32.14 | jhutchins | saurav: To format the partition you need something like mkfs |
| 16:32.15 | r420r | because badsectors etc.. |
| 16:32.24 | saurav | r420r , okay |
| 16:32.44 | jhutchins | saurav: mke2fs |
| 16:32.50 | *** join/#debian lamasnik (~Nikolas@195.191.146.39) |
| 16:33.07 | *** join/#debian atyoung (~atyoung@gateway/tor-sasl/darkwurm) |
| 16:33.12 | jhutchins | saurav: That actually builds the filesystem, writes the block tables, etc. |
| 16:33.18 | saurav | r420r , jhutchins , okay... |
| 16:33.31 | *** join/#debian mijicd (~mijicd@cable-188-246-51-84.dynamic.kdsinter.net) |
| 16:33.51 | r420r | saurav , first step check your disk, sec. step dd or fdisk |
| 16:34.02 | r420r | dd is better mostly =) |
| 16:34.12 | r420r | but becareful if you didnt use dd much |
| 16:34.15 | jhutchins | fdisk only writes the partition table and does not affect the data. |
| 16:34.32 | saurav | r420r , okay. ill first read a bit on using dd, so that i dont get messed up :) |
| 16:34.43 | r420r | dd is better |
| 16:35.18 | jhutchins | saurav: Formatting with mkfs doesn't actually destroy the data, but it removes all the maps to where the blocks of a file are, and allows them to be overwritten, effectively deleting them all. |
| 16:35.37 | jhutchins | r420r: dd is a completely different thing, not better or worse. |
| 16:35.40 | *** join/#debian moha_hunt (~moha@2a02:8109:83c0:1e5c:aed:b9ff:fe6a:1fca) |
| 16:35.56 | r420r | jhutchins yeah |
| 16:35.57 | saurav | jhutchins: so if i format with mkfs all my data will be there but i cant access it? |
| 16:36.06 | *** join/#debian codesoup (~codesoup@CPE68b6fcf580d3-CM68b6fcf580d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 16:36.11 | jhutchins | saurav: Right. |
| 16:36.18 | r420r | saurav , do you have bsd cd ? |
| 16:36.35 | r420r | read about bsdlabel,fdisk on it , i using it mostly |
| 16:36.35 | heurist | saurav: *some* of your data *may* be there, do not rely on that. |
| 16:36.36 | saurav | r420r: nope |
| 16:36.44 | r420r | ahh never mind |
| 16:36.51 | jhutchins | saurav: Similar to what happens when you delete a file in Windows. Sometimes it can be recovered, and it can be found by forensic tools, but for practical purposes it's gone. |
| 16:36.52 | saurav | r420r: okay |
| 16:37.00 | saurav | heurist: :) |
| 16:37.08 | *** part/#debian theToastIsDone (~theToastI@dhcp152-54-6-213.wireless.europa.renci.org) |
| 16:37.25 | saurav | jhutchins: umm okay |
| 16:37.28 | jhutchins | saurav: I think gparted will also allow you to format a disk, although again it's a partition table tool. |
| 16:37.30 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@host-78-144-141-143.as13285.net) |
| 16:37.38 | r420r | yeah gparted is great |
| 16:37.41 | r420r | saurav |
| 16:37.48 | saurav | jhutchins: gparted didnt work |
| 16:37.59 | saurav | r420r: yeah? |
| 16:38.24 | jhutchins | saurav: I'm not sure what the original question was, if you're trying to get rid of your data so someone else can't recover it, Dan's Boot'N'Nuke is a good tool, it uses DD but is menu driven. |
| 16:38.25 | *** join/#debian himuraken (~himuraken@c-69-247-49-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 16:38.43 | *** join/#debian kriger (~norge@71-90-14-51.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) |
| 16:38.46 | jhutchins | saurav: What are you actually trying to do? |
| 16:38.47 | r420r | gpart has gmt etc.. mbr what you want |
| 16:39.00 | r420r | i using it at freebsd |
| 16:39.13 | r420r | freebsd install cd has gpart |
| 16:39.26 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@unaffiliated/redguy) |
| 16:39.30 | r420r | +1 jhutchins |
| 16:39.31 | saurav | r420r: i used ubuntu live cd |
| 16:39.45 | r420r | i dont know if ubuntu has it |
| 16:39.57 | r420r | use gpart |
| 16:40.11 | r420r | it is better than dd |
| 16:40.22 | saurav | r420r: okay, ill try again |
| 16:40.37 | saurav | r420r: should i do it using the bsd cd? |
| 16:40.42 | r420r | read about fix hdd problems on google |
| 16:40.42 | *** join/#debian Betal (~Beta@unaffiliated/betal) |
| 16:41.03 | r420r | for linux |
| 16:41.18 | saurav | r420r: that should help |
| 16:41.31 | jhutchins | saurav: If you're using ubuntu, please get help from #ubuntu. It is a different system and what might fix Debian can break Ubuntu. |
| 16:41.54 | jhutchins | saurav: I would not recommend the bsd version of Debian for a new user. |
| 16:42.02 | saurav | #jhutchins i plan on installing debian on my laptop |
| 16:42.06 | jhutchins | saurav: If you want to learn bsd, install bsd. |
| 16:42.21 | saurav | jhutchins: okay :) |
| 16:42.27 | jhutchins | saurav: So the original problem is that you tried to install debian and it dodn't work? |
| 16:42.50 | saurav | jhutchins: yes |
| 16:43.10 | jhutchins | saurav: Do you know if this Acer has UEFI? |
| 16:43.28 | saurav | jhutchins: yes, i think it has |
| 16:43.35 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.191.185.221) |
| 16:45.58 | jhutchins | saurav: Doesn't look like it comes with it. |
| 16:46.12 | r420r | saurav http://gparted.org/ |
| 16:46.27 | r420r | you can fix your problem with it , and you can install ubuntu after it |
| 16:46.35 | r420r | or debian |
| 16:46.37 | r420r | what you want |
| 16:46.38 | saurav | r420r: thank you very much |
| 16:46.48 | jhutchins | saurav: Usually EFI is Windows8. |
| 16:47.13 | saurav | r420r: so i should format it with gparted and try installing other system? |
| 16:47.26 | r420r | check your hdd first |
| 16:47.38 | saurav | jhutchins: it came with vista so i think it has uefi |
| 16:47.56 | saurav | r420r: okay.. |
| 16:48.13 | r420r | i think it is hdd problem |
| 16:48.16 | *** join/#debian BarthezZ` (BarthezZ@ip51cd391a.speed.planet.nl) |
| 16:48.37 | saurav | r420r: same here |
| 16:48.38 | r420r | have a good time |
| 16:48.41 | r420r | bye |
| 16:48.56 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 16:48.58 | saurav | r420r: thank you for all the help. cheers and bye |
| 16:48.59 | jhutchins | saurav: If it came with vista then it is NOT uefi. |
| 16:49.02 | *** join/#debian Coimbra (~Coimbra@pool-71-109-65-107.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 16:49.05 | saurav | r420r: :) |
| 16:49.08 | jhutchins | saurav: From what I can find on the web it doesn't. |
| 16:49.18 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 16:49.26 | saurav | jhutchins: okay... i think now i am confused o.O |
| 16:49.33 | *** join/#debian jareddlc (~jareddlc@64-142-88-9.dedicated.static.sonic.net) |
| 16:49.48 | *** join/#debian cadams (~obscurant@cpe-066-026-083-140.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 16:49.52 | jhutchins | saurav: I would suggest trying wheezy/stable on it, and if it doesn't boot come back here for specific help instead of a full install. You can use the installer tools to partition/format the disk. |
| 16:49.53 | Coimbra | Iceweasel is spitting out nasty force close errors. WTH |
| 16:50.08 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 16:50.17 | *** join/#debian aaron83 (~aaron83@200.55.136.83) |
| 16:50.22 | saurav | jhutchins: ill try that right away :) thanks for all the help |
| 16:50.23 | *** join/#debian blivande (~Chw@189.193.69.170) |
| 16:50.28 | saurav | jhutchins: :) |
| 16:50.43 | jhutchins | saurav: Here is some discussion of using the 2011 version of Ubuntu on one: http://www.linlap.com/acer_aspire_1410 |
| 16:51.20 | saurav | jhutchins: thanks |
| 16:51.33 | saurav | jhutchins: ill install and be right back... bye :D |
| 16:51.36 | *** part/#debian saurav (~saurav@202.166.205.214) |
| 16:52.01 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.162) |
| 16:52.20 | *** join/#debian K4k_ (~K4k@104-9-92-61.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:52.49 | *** join/#debian Satchmo (~satchmo@cpc2-wiga13-2-0-cust475.18-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 16:57.01 | *** join/#debian nacer_00 (~Icedove@197.200.57.121) |
| 16:58.49 | *** join/#debian simonlnu (eric@modemcable113.80-176-173.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 16:58.50 | *** join/#debian simonlnu (eric@unaffiliated/simonrvn) |
| 16:59.14 | *** join/#debian redeyedman (~galym@37.151.155.128) |
| 16:59.27 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 17:00.17 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 17:01.01 | redeyedman | heurist: sorry for my behavior. I'd was bombed |
| 17:01.33 | heurist | redeyedman: no worries |
| 17:01.39 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@61.19.147.130) |
| 17:03.07 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 17:03.54 | *** join/#debian tonythomas (uid25971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-quqqrjhpkqhvtyoc) |
| 17:04.38 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.162) |
| 17:05.19 | *** join/#debian pankid (~pan@73.191.253.36) |
| 17:07.43 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-99-32-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:08.24 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 17:10.07 | *** join/#debian msmith_ (msmith@nat/acquia/x-idrwqiljuqbpzjuc) |
| 17:13.51 | *** join/#debian blivande (~Chw@189.193.69.170) |
| 17:14.13 | *** part/#debian meek_geek (~meek_geek@gateway/tor-sasl/meekgeek/x-51922446) |
| 17:14.18 | *** join/#debian vimel (~vimel@unaffiliated/vimel) |
| 17:14.27 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744167020.direcpc.com) |
| 17:17.45 | *** join/#debian MisterBig195 (~MisterBig@2001:5c0:1400:a::71f) |
| 17:18.04 | jhutchins | Don't drink and IRC! |
| 17:19.00 | *** join/#debian siegie (~quassel@unaffiliated/siegie) |
| 17:19.40 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.207) |
| 17:20.02 | *** join/#debian GJdan (~dan@d154-20-234-134.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 17:22.20 | *** join/#debian zerick (~eocrospom@190.187.21.53) |
| 17:22.55 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~textual@host-176-38-85-40.la.net.ua) |
| 17:24.21 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 17:24.40 | *** join/#debian iveevue (~na@unaffiliated/iveevue) |
| 17:24.43 | *** join/#debian NeilHanlon (~NeilHanlo@unaffiliated/neilhanlon) |
| 17:26.33 | *** join/#debian teraflops (~teraflop@77.225.225.204) |
| 17:26.59 | *** join/#debian spudwebb (~spuddweb@24.147.244.234) |
| 17:27.40 | *** join/#debian twirlobite (~brian@d154-20-100-159.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 17:28.51 | *** join/#debian cstamasweb (~cstamas@demo.convos.by) |
| 17:29.00 | twirlobite | hi. i need help understanding an instruction i was given: "try adding: export PYLINTRC=~/.pylintrc to your .profile or .bashrc, etc.. and source it". i have both a .profile, and a .bashrc in /home/usr/...so which one should i use? i think what the instruction is trying to to do is get to me set an environment variable? |
| 17:29.21 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 17:29.41 | nkuttler | twirlobite: yeah. i'd use the bashrc |
| 17:30.35 | *** join/#debian Xiti (~Xiti-@c-50-134-127-54.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 17:30.38 | *** join/#debian Xiti (~Xiti-@unaffiliated/xiti) |
| 17:30.41 | *** join/#debian paw (~afong@198-48-224-134.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 17:31.37 | *** join/#debian grache28 (~glc@2601:e:9e80:f:76d0:2bff:fe8f:a0d0) |
| 17:31.59 | *** join/#debian artinox (~Icedove@athedsl-367285.home.otenet.gr) |
| 17:32.12 | *** join/#debian ebfull (~ebfull@c-76-120-40-34.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 17:32.24 | ebfull | i'm having weird troubles with my window manager (kwin) and maybe it's a common thing |
| 17:32.26 | twirlobite | nkuttler: so just to confirm, the lines i would be adding are "export PYLINTRC=~/.pylintrc", save .bashrc, and then in terminal i type in "source .bashrc"? |
| 17:32.45 | ebfull | basically some windows don't change (in response to clicks) when they're active but when i click on other windows and return, the window has changed |
| 17:32.51 | *** join/#debian ByT3b0N3 (~ByT3b0N3@gitlab.cloud.hs-furtwangen.de) |
| 17:32.54 | *** join/#debian lunux (~test@94.54.100.231) |
| 17:33.13 | ebfull | actually the windows don't really change at all when they're active they only change when i deactivate/activate them |
| 17:33.35 | mtn | ebfull: which version of debian? |
| 17:34.36 | *** join/#debian Gatis (~gatis@95.68.114.84) |
| 17:34.42 | Gatis | Is debian first distro? |
| 17:35.01 | *** join/#debian rojem (~rojem@199.4.160.10) |
| 17:35.11 | Aaron | yeah |
| 17:35.16 | Aaron | its been here for years |
| 17:35.24 | *** join/#debian byte^bnc (~byte@29.ip-37-59-98.eu) |
| 17:35.39 | mtn | no, it is not the first distro |
| 17:35.41 | mtn | was not |
| 17:36.08 | Aaron | the first distro with .deb files |
| 17:36.14 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:36.15 | Aaron | and its own package manager |
| 17:37.31 | *** join/#debian iCarly (~thomas@p5B09CF78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:39.08 | *** join/#debian cference (~vezril@64.187.189.2) |
| 17:39.09 | *** join/#debian Guest84323 (~systmkor@74.82.134.59) |
| 17:39.11 | n-st | hi, my system (running wheezy) refuses to start: "modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed" |
| 17:39.14 | *** join/#debian wcfields (~keynull@209.36.40.50) |
| 17:39.17 | *** join/#debian ilk (~sysadmin@99-194-168-166.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 17:39.51 | twirlobite | i am sorry to simply repeat this like a robot, but i need help understanding an instruction i was given: "try adding: export PYLINTRC=~/.pylintrc to your .profile or .bashrc, etc.. and source it". someone let me know that i should use .bashrc, so i put in the following line into it: "export PYLINTRC=~/.pylintrc". then i saved my .bashrc, and in terminal ran source .bashrc -- afterward, i tried to check if pylint was able to recognize my |
| 17:40.08 | *** join/#debian catpig (~catpig@p5B09E0A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:40.08 | n-st | everything related i've found so far suggest an error in /etc/modprobe.d/, but that directory only contains the default fbdev-blacklist.conf. what else could be wrong? |
| 17:40.27 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 17:40.33 | sebastian1 | twirlobite: yes add export PYLINTRC=~/.pylintrc to .bashrc, and you should be good to go |
| 17:41.01 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@46.56.68.253) |
| 17:41.29 | twirlobite | sebastian1: ok, thanks. so basically, if pylintrc is still not being recognized, then its not that i set the environmental variable wrong, but something else is the issue. |
| 17:41.31 | *** part/#debian mms_ (~chatzilla@triband-mum-120.62.203.48.mtnl.net.in) |
| 17:41.32 | sebastian1 | twirlobite: sorry, finish what you were saying |
| 17:42.01 | twirlobite | sebastian1: ah, no problem! i don't think i was saying anything more. |
| 17:42.09 | sebastian1 | what is pylint telling you? |
| 17:42.35 | *** join/#debian hubutm20 (~hubutm20@79.114.23.219) |
| 17:43.12 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@dech.winlink.ru) |
| 17:43.32 | *** join/#debian atyoung (~atyoung@gateway/tor-sasl/darkwurm) |
| 17:44.18 | *** join/#debian Otyugh (~otyugh__@ARennes-251-1-197-232.w2-10.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:44.43 | twirlobite | sebastian1: its raising a fuss about lines being too long ("> 79 characters..."), and i changed the relevant line in .pylintrc (under "[FORMAT] max-line-length=10000")...but pylint in emacs still keeps highlighting long lines as an error... |
| 17:44.43 | NicksCode | Whats the difference between the CD and the DVD images? |
| 17:44.57 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@dech.winlink.ru) |
| 17:45.34 | twirlobite | NicksCode: i think DVD images are bigger than CD images (so, if you have a 10 GB file, and it splits into x CD images, then it splits into y < x DVD images), but otherwise are the same |
| 17:45.34 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@104-9-92-61.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:45.37 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 17:45.57 | *** join/#debian MaekSo (~MaekSo@107.170.228.92) |
| 17:46.13 | twirlobite | NicksCode: because DVDs can hold more than CDs, so individual DVD images can be larger |
| 17:46.47 | NicksCode | Why are there muyltiple CD and DVD images? |
| 17:46.51 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-178-48-154-32.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 17:46.54 | jhutchins | NicksCode: You can do a pretty complete install off of the DVD, the CDs will either be very minimal or will download durinhg the installation for a full install. |
| 17:47.19 | jhutchins | NicksCode: Because there are over 30,000 packages in variouls languages and architectures. |
| 17:47.20 | sebastian1 | twirlobite: sounds like pylint error then if it finds the file. Can't really help more unless we see the file http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 17:47.57 | NicksCode | Well im looking to replace my workstation OS with debian, I guess I should go for the first DVD image? |
| 17:47.57 | twirlobite | sebastian1: how can i make sure that it is finding the file though? what if it is looking at a different pylintrc? |
| 17:48.23 | *** join/#debian theToastIsDone (~theToastI@dhcp152-54-6-213.wireless.europa.renci.org) |
| 17:48.27 | jhutchins | NicksCode: The Minimal/Netinstall image is good, you only download what you actually use. |
| 17:48.54 | jhutchins | NicksCode: If you're on wireless the DVD might be easier. |
| 17:49.23 | NicksCode | jhutchins nope its a desktop I have 3 switches in the room network isnt the problem... the speed at which it downloads is (300KB/s max) |
| 17:49.32 | *** part/#debian redeyedman (~galym@37.151.155.128) |
| 17:49.35 | *** join/#debian calisto (~calisto@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 17:49.41 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 17:49.49 | *** part/#debian theToastIsDone (~theToastI@dhcp152-54-6-213.wireless.europa.renci.org) |
| 17:50.01 | sebastian1 | twirlobite: you specified the file being ~/.pylintrc (/home/user/.pylintrc) and you're getting an error in the file, and emacs is also showing you errors, atleast that's how it seems to me. |
| 17:50.11 | sebastian1 | twirlobite: so looks like it's finding the file |
| 17:50.26 | *** join/#debian Pupuser (~puppy@118.97.95.29) |
| 17:50.47 | *** join/#debian kareem (~kareem@cpe-104-34-46-244.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 17:51.05 | *** join/#debian permalac (~RIERA-J@127.Red-83-43-85.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:51.09 | NicksCode | jhutchins I guess CD-1 is the minimal one? |
| 17:51.19 | sebastian1 | twirlobite: also try #python |
| 17:52.33 | twirlobite | sebastian1: ah, no pylint isn't getting an error in the file! i might have not been clear about that: but rather, pylintrc (the configuration file) does not seem to be affecting the configuration (so it still marks lines that are greater than 80 characters in length as errors -- i'll try #emacs and #python too |
| 17:54.41 | *** join/#debian b1tr4id (~b1tr4id@ppp-70-129-190-97.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) |
| 17:55.37 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@vutral.net) |
| 17:55.40 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@mr115.mr.aps.anl.gov) |
| 17:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1446] by debhelper |
| 17:56.57 | *** join/#debian Mac101 (~Mac@cpc11-lanc6-2-0-cust22.3-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 17:57.00 | *** join/#debian gswain (~gswain@71.39.116.1) |
| 17:57.30 | *** join/#debian ancky (~freddyfre@2a01:4f8:d12:1d05::2) |
| 17:58.01 | *** join/#debian cybrNaut (cybrNaut@unaffiliated/cybrnaut) |
| 17:59.37 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 18:01.35 | *** join/#debian zege (~zege@cpe90-146-193-81.liwest.at) |
| 18:02.02 | *** join/#debian autochthon (~autochtho@0170300545.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 18:04.08 | *** join/#debian theegirl (~free@238.Red-79-148-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:04.15 | *** join/#debian chwy (~chwy@unaffiliated/chwy) |
| 18:05.27 | *** join/#debian keoz (~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:05.33 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@76.21.119.81) |
| 18:05.36 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar) |
| 18:05.49 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:06.32 | *** join/#debian zinks (~zinks@118.ip-37-187-49.eu) |
| 18:07.00 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:07.48 | *** join/#debian _1_tuesencia (~21040008@186.14.244.155) |
| 18:08.07 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 18:08.15 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:09.05 | squisher | twirlobite, you're using python-mode? I'm using vim, but had a hard time getting the settings to work, too |
| 18:09.14 | *** join/#debian machete (~machete@31.220.42.96) |
| 18:09.37 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:09.37 | *** join/#debian Asiajey (~Asiajey@2001:5c0:1400:b::c15) |
| 18:09.37 | *** join/#debian Asiajey (~Asiajey@unaffiliated/asiajey) |
| 18:09.49 | *** join/#debian LIERO (~lulz@94.190.193.19) |
| 18:09.49 | squisher | in the end I figured out that it expects a pylama.ini, and then the long lines are being recognized by the pep8 plugin, not pylint |
| 18:09.51 | LIERO | hi |
| 18:09.54 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~big-byte@81.61.209.223.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 18:10.23 | twirlobite | squisher: weird. yeah, i just realized that my issue is that emacs is not using pylint to check syntax, but flake8 |
| 18:10.29 | LIERO | running 64 bit wheezy and apparently Skype won't recognize my audio devices if I don't install libpulse |
| 18:10.37 | twirlobite | squisher: but yeah, python-mode in emacs |
| 18:10.44 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:10.56 | LIERO | so i try doing apt-get install libpulse0:i386 but it doesn't find the package |
| 18:11.09 | LIERO | have they changed the name or sth? |
| 18:11.56 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:13.05 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:13.46 | *** join/#debian permalac (~RIERA-J@53.Red-83-61-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:14.12 | *** join/#debian bob_p (~robertpie@c-76-126-137-197.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:14.19 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:14.39 | *** join/#debian fold (~JimmyRcom@66-169-184-128.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 18:17.29 | *** join/#debian kisisten (~magyar@76.21.119.81) |
| 18:20.57 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@mumble144162.merl.com) |
| 18:21.05 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 18:22.04 | *** join/#debian Arctico (~Arctico@75.156.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 18:22.20 | *** join/#debian permalac (~RIERA-J@53.Red-83-61-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:25.20 | *** join/#debian break19 (~break19@unaffiliated/break19) |
| 18:26.11 | *** join/#debian abll (~abll@ip1.c213.obr204.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 18:26.21 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc5-mapp12-2-0-cust480.12-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:26.38 | *** join/#debian beejee (~beejee@2a02:1810:2f1a:8600:7c7b:4075:e82d:4012) |
| 18:30.43 | *** join/#debian rojem (~rojem@199.4.160.73) |
| 18:30.44 | *** join/#debian PsiloX (~psilox@2001:470:1f15:10f6:c87b:6383:c07c:faac) |
| 18:31.44 | *** join/#debian kisisten (~magyar@76.21.119.81) |
| 18:32.50 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 18:32.53 | *** join/#debian Storfiskaren (~robert@c-81d7e155.1228-2-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 18:33.00 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 18:33.27 | *** join/#debian micechal_ (~quassel@agpq63.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:34.15 | *** join/#debian terr1 (~terr1@unaffiliated/terr1) |
| 18:34.20 | *** join/#debian commodor (~commodor@ip-212-081-024-086.static.nextra.sk) |
| 18:34.32 | *** join/#debian Sir_Desi (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 18:34.58 | *** join/#debian poopieheadturd (~ircbot@195.238.75.17) |
| 18:35.04 | *** join/#debian codepython777 (~kp@c-69-244-213-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 18:37.00 | *** join/#debian sarlalian (~sarlalian@107.170.239.102) |
| 18:37.05 | *** join/#debian edggeek (~edggeek@ultra.edgonline.nl) |
| 18:37.11 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 18:40.14 | jhutchins | Lilian: aptitude search libpulse? apt-file search libpulse? |
| 18:41.59 | *** join/#debian stdusr (~stdusr@217.118.78.113) |
| 18:42.09 | *** join/#debian kisisten (~magyar@76.21.119.81) |
| 18:44.54 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-178-48-154-32.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 18:44.55 | NicksCode | Is there a list of what packages are included in each image> |
| 18:44.57 | NicksCode | ?* |
| 18:46.00 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1439] by debhelper |
| 18:46.07 | *** join/#debian Fruckiwacki (daniel@ns3265753.ip-37-59-53.eu) |
| 18:51.54 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 18:52.20 | *** join/#debian Fruckiwacki (daniel@ns3265753.ip-37-59-53.eu) |
| 18:53.06 | *** join/#debian IVplay (~ivplay@91.105.104.55) |
| 18:54.00 | *** join/#debian magic (~magic@unaffiliated/auv5) |
| 18:54.49 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs78193150.pp.htv.fi) |
| 18:55.00 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 18:55.07 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 18:55.18 | *** join/#debian norchacha (~norchacha@c-67-183-214-68.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 18:56.01 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:56.15 | *** join/#debian Reactorex (~Texnical@unaffiliated/reactorex) |
| 18:57.09 | *** join/#debian nasredin (~nasredin@47.131.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 18:58.16 | *** join/#debian kisisten (~magyar@76.21.119.81) |
| 18:58.46 | *** join/#debian Fruckiwacki (~frucki@ns3265753.ip-37-59-53.eu) |
| 18:59.12 | *** part/#debian ee2455 (~ee2455@unaffiliated/ee2455) |
| 19:02.29 | *** join/#debian Alexbleks (~Alexbleks@ti0043a400-4800.bb.online.no) |
| 19:02.47 | c3w | NicksCode: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/i386/list-cd/ |
| 19:03.01 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-178-48-154-32.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 19:03.30 | c3w | replace i386 with amd64 if you have 64bit img |
| 19:05.42 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 19:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1433] by debhelper |
| 19:06.05 | *** join/#debian devlaps (~davlaps@66-192-9-78.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 19:06.05 | *** join/#debian atyoung (~atyoung@gateway/tor-sasl/darkwurm) |
| 19:06.37 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:07.29 | *** join/#debian Extensa5630G (~hassoon@197.0.203.4) |
| 19:07.30 | *** join/#debian Extensa5630G (~hassoon@unaffiliated/hassen) |
| 19:07.44 | *** join/#debian Touma (~Touma@190.202.88.162) |
| 19:09.09 | devlaps | folks.. would appreciate any pointers on debuild. i'm looking to build source packages that i can pass into pbuilder. for some packages i get complaints about unresolved deps. do i need to have deps in debian/control myself or does debuild/dpkg-buildpackage do that automatically? thanks! |
| 19:09.45 | *** join/#debian r-x-w- (~worker@99-140-73-77.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:11.04 | nasredin | hi could somebody helpm with apt-build world? |
| 19:11.11 | nasredin | im still getting Missing source package name for source_by_source(). |
| 19:11.24 | nasredin | i wanted just try it but no successs |
| 19:11.55 | *** join/#debian Paradisee (~quassel@2.239.28.120) |
| 19:12.51 | devlaps | folks.. back again to answer my own question :) so it appears that manually installing the build deps fixes my problem. didn't think to test before. oh well. |
| 19:15.06 | *** join/#debian tcpman (~tcpman@85-220-31-214.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 19:15.23 | *** join/#debian steff (~steff@94.205.111.22) |
| 19:15.27 | *** join/#debian terr1 (~terr1@d40a449e.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 19:15.38 | *** join/#debian terr1 (~terr1@unaffiliated/terr1) |
| 19:16.10 | *** join/#debian binaryhat (~binaryhat@pool-100-37-192-166.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:17.38 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-99-32-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:19.24 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slv@50.12.171.235) |
| 19:24.36 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 19:24.37 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 19:25.30 | *** join/#debian WormFewd (~wormfood@116.24.101.129) |
| 19:25.47 | *** join/#debian Cyclohexane (idunevn@uk1.focushosting.com) |
| 19:25.48 | *** join/#debian Cyclohexane (idunevn@unaffiliated/cyclohexane) |
| 19:27.50 | *** join/#debian crimsoncrow (~crimsoncr@ip5455af12.speed.planet.nl) |
| 19:27.54 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 19:29.18 | *** join/#debian s0m3b0dy (~textual@209.222.7.237) |
| 19:30.28 | s0m3b0dy | hello, Im trying to install my servers as spacewalk satellites, but I can't seem to install the package "rhnsd" on my server |
| 19:30.53 | s0m3b0dy | Im running debian squeeze on ~30 servers, and I'd like to set them all up with my spacewalk main server, which is running centos |
| 19:30.56 | *** join/#debian autochthon (~autochtho@0170300545.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 19:31.25 | *** join/#debian dsana123 (~dsana123@5ec1b856.skybroadband.com) |
| 19:31.45 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@mr115.mr.aps.anl.gov) |
| 19:32.37 | *** join/#debian staropram (~staropram@unaffiliated/staropram) |
| 19:33.27 | *** join/#debian foo (~foo@unaffiliated/foo) |
| 19:34.30 | *** join/#debian commodor (~commodor@ip-212-081-024-086.static.nextra.sk) |
| 19:34.32 | foo | I updated from squeeze to wheezy and I notice nothing is getting logged in syslog or messages in /var/log - did something change here that I missed? |
| 19:36.28 | *** join/#debian Cutzenfreund (~Cutzenfre@2001:1a50:11:0:5f:8f:acfc:280) |
| 19:36.38 | *** join/#debian meaneye (~meaneye@5.144.58.209) |
| 19:37.07 | *** part/#debian halt2 (~Thunderbi@83.218.157.210) |
| 19:37.31 | *** join/#debian hacfi (~hacfi@lvps46-163-117-38.dedicated.hosteurope.de) |
| 19:39.08 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler) |
| 19:39.58 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@53513073.cm-6-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 19:40.26 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@dech.winlink.ru) |
| 19:40.43 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@dech.winlink.ru) |
| 19:40.47 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@53513073.cm-6-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 19:44.07 | *** join/#debian _motorhead (~motorhead@adol228.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:44.36 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 19:47.12 | *** join/#debian cantoma (~jduro@80-42-163-50.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 19:47.52 | *** join/#debian jcbjoe (~jcbjoe@c-67-182-184-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:48.00 | jcbjoe | is this chan the same as on oftc ? |
| 19:48.18 | s0m3b0dy | How can I install one package from a different repository without having to upgrade all the dependencies? |
| 19:49.05 | *** part/#debian jcbjoe (~jcbjoe@c-67-182-184-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:49.27 | rryoumaa | s0m3b0dy: you're supposed to backport it, as i understand it |
| 19:49.57 | s0m3b0dy | rryoumaa: do you know if there's any guides on how to do that? I'd like to install this https://packages.debian.org/sid/rhnsd on debian sqeeze |
| 19:51.37 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-178-48-154-32.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 19:52.11 | *** join/#debian frangor (~frangor@unaffiliated/frangor) |
| 19:53.18 | *** join/#debian rhizome (~rhizome@50-0-193-208.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 19:53.34 | *** join/#debian pankid (~pan@173-162-51-174-michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 19:54.04 | rhizome | i have to say that my heart sinks every time I see "choose helper application..." focused at, like, my downloads folder |
| 19:54.34 | *** join/#debian fran (~fran@199.185.9.46.customer.cdi.no) |
| 19:54.42 | fran | hey all! |
| 19:54.54 | fran | i'm having problems with debian on my macbook after upgrading today |
| 19:55.04 | *** join/#debian spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) |
| 19:55.14 | spectie | it basically won't boot any more |
| 19:55.23 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@91.218.144.129) |
| 19:55.24 | *** join/#debian icebourg (~icebourg@c-75-70-18-13.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:55.29 | spectie | i'm getting the error "FAT-fs unrecognised mount option '0' or missing value" |
| 19:55.36 | spectie | when i try to boot into debian |
| 19:55.55 | spectie | i can boot from a rescue-usb-stick |
| 19:56.16 | spectie | and guess the problem is that something has changed in grub/linux-image/... |
| 19:56.28 | *** join/#debian harpyon (~harpyon@haavardp.no) |
| 19:56.36 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 19:56.56 | spectie | has anyone come across anything like this before ? |
| 19:56.58 | rhizome | did you change fstab or something? |
| 19:57.00 | spectie | nope |
| 19:57.03 | spectie | i haven't changed fstab |
| 19:57.17 | s0m3b0dy | spectie: mess around with grub? |
| 19:57.19 | spectie | but that error comes immediately after selecting linux in grub |
| 19:57.25 | spectie | i've been messing around for about an hour now :) |
| 19:57.30 | spectie | at some point i broke it more |
| 19:57.38 | spectie | but now it's back to how broken it was before i started messing ;) |
| 19:57.39 | rhizome | single boot? |
| 19:57.49 | spectie | i'm using refind |
| 19:57.55 | spectie | for main bootmanager |
| 19:58.01 | spectie | to choose between macos and debian |
| 19:58.07 | spectie | and then after that, grub |
| 19:58.25 | spectie | it's not a problem with refind, because that loads fine, and i can boot the rescue disk, and boot into macos from it |
| 19:59.38 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler) |
| 20:00.42 | spectie | do either of you two have 'load fat' in your grub.cfg ? |
| 20:00.54 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:bc0c:9a0d:68b2:a1dd) |
| 20:01.57 | *** part/#debian nasredin (~nasredin@47.131.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 20:02.27 | *** join/#debian sexyboy (~sexyboy@unaffiliated/sexyboy) |
| 20:02.55 | *** join/#debian `Yoda (Yoda@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-mdnnhksgekxepopt) |
| 20:04.46 | *** join/#debian marcidy (~marcidy@184.152.32.199) |
| 20:05.13 | *** join/#debian marcidy (~marcidy@unaffiliated/marcidy) |
| 20:05.52 | *** join/#debian FloTiX (~FloTiX@tool.flotix.jp) |
| 20:06.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1419] by debhelper |
| 20:06.13 | marcidy | ChrisH/SynrGy: thanks for help earlier. ddrescue worked great, data is safe(r). Much appreciated. |
| 20:06.16 | *** join/#debian cstamasweb (~cstamas@demo.convos.by) |
| 20:06.54 | *** join/#debian marklite (croftworth@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-ijhrjhljyplkcpoc) |
| 20:07.02 | *** join/#debian jbraeg (~jbraeg@argalicontest.com) |
| 20:08.25 | *** join/#debian Qrc (~lehtine5@188.226.197.77) |
| 20:08.47 | *** join/#debian kor (~joakim@a88-112-194-25.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 20:08.47 | spectie | hmm, brb |
| 20:09.59 | *** join/#debian spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) |
| 20:10.03 | spectie | back in linux :D |
| 20:10.09 | spectie | whoever mentioned the fstab thing |
| 20:10.11 | spectie | thanks |
| 20:10.13 | spectie | i hadn't changed it |
| 20:10.15 | spectie | but something had |
| 20:10.27 | spectie | and fiddling with that seemed to fix the problem |
| 20:11.19 | *** join/#debian gswain (~gswain@71.39.116.1) |
| 20:12.01 | *** join/#debian mdim (~user@line-marko.cs.utah.edu) |
| 20:13.55 | *** join/#debian blivande (~Chw@189.193.69.170) |
| 20:14.24 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 20:14.31 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~Rodrigo@177.97.208.133) |
| 20:15.38 | *** join/#debian nothingisreal (~maxiu@c-50-139-98-10.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 20:15.44 | *** join/#debian Rudde (~Rudde@rudde.org) |
| 20:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1426] by debhelper |
| 20:16.28 | *** join/#debian vita (b2194c7a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.25.76.122) |
| 20:17.18 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~Rodrigo@pdpc/supporter/active/arduguy) |
| 20:17.20 | *** join/#debian bo` (~bo`@71.204.184.55) |
| 20:17.41 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-457f51c5.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 20:18.09 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@mr113.mr.aps.anl.gov) |
| 20:18.34 | *** join/#debian Schubser (~Schbser@176.102.175.137) |
| 20:18.37 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 20:19.10 | *** join/#debian teraflops (~teraflop@77.225.225.204) |
| 20:19.54 | *** join/#debian acu (~acu@50.244.13.222) |
| 20:20.02 | *** join/#debian i6ghost (~maxiu@c-50-139-98-10.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 20:20.32 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 20:20.43 | *** join/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 20:21.20 | *** join/#debian cian1500ww (~cian@unaffiliated/cian1500ww) |
| 20:21.34 | *** join/#debian chwy (~chwy@unaffiliated/chwy) |
| 20:24.00 | *** join/#debian WormFewd (~wormfood@116.24.101.129) |
| 20:25.03 | *** join/#debian dundel (~daniel@190.98.82.213) |
| 20:25.06 | *** join/#debian o1 (~o@81-233-156-195-no83.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:25.52 | *** join/#debian slv (~slv@50.12.171.235) |
| 20:25.56 | *** part/#debian o1 (~o@81-233-156-195-no83.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1439] by debhelper |
| 20:26.41 | *** join/#debian snuffeluffegus (~snuffeluf@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845) |
| 20:26.43 | *** join/#debian Al3xG0 (~t7DS@37.221.170.110) |
| 20:26.45 | *** join/#debian unop (~unop@host86-155-37-155.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:26.45 | *** join/#debian Al3xG0 (~t7DS@unaffiliated/al3xg0) |
| 20:28.48 | *** join/#debian Tom01_ (~tom@p5DDFD462.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:29.52 | *** join/#debian darkxploit (~nitin@197.224.128.114) |
| 20:30.04 | *** join/#debian breakerbea24 (~br3akerbe@8.12.28.81) |
| 20:30.17 | *** join/#debian tk75 (~kt76@ec2-23-21-162-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 20:31.53 | *** join/#debian chellomere (~alex@c83-191-74-67.cust.tele2.se) |
| 20:32.19 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~textual@bet.shavings.volia.net) |
| 20:32.35 | *** join/#debian tete_ (~John@178-82-233-196.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:33.53 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 20:36.57 | tete_ | i am facing some real evil problems when installing debian 7 on raid5 (/boot), raid5 (/), but somehow grub is not installed... when i do grub-install /dev/sd(a,b,c)1 it says no error occured, also with /dev/md0, but there is no grub when i do a reboot |
| 20:37.29 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~textual@bet.shavings.volia.net) |
| 20:38.10 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@broadband-109-173-61-206.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 20:38.30 | *** join/#debian gigasphere (~cag@host86-171-171-69.range86-171.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:39.02 | vita | tete_: I would guess that doesn't work, as the bios has to access/find grub, but has no idea how to access a dmraid.. |
| 20:39.38 | vita | I'd guess you need a plain /boot, with an initramfs including dmraid-drivers |
| 20:39.57 | vita | ..but then I'm just a user with problems in here too ;-) |
| 20:40.02 | tete_ | :) what probs do you have? |
| 20:40.44 | *** join/#debian cynicallemon (~cynicalle@gateway/tor-sasl/cynicallemon) |
| 20:41.12 | vita | [no answers in #KDE] Hello! I am running Debian 7 with KDE 4.8.4. I try to connect to an openvpn server with the regular plasma network-manager. It connects, but no traffic comes through, then it drops again. The very same openvpn config works fine when I use it in the shell. What would be the right place to ask for help? |
| 20:41.14 | vita | :-) |
| 20:41.47 | tete_ | puh sry no idea |
| 20:42.18 | vita | yeah, weird one.. *shrugs* thanks anyway! :-) |
| 20:42.19 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 20:42.37 | vita | ..how about a "real" hardwareraid or a bios-level raid5? |
| 20:42.51 | tete_ | bios does not have raid support, real hardware is too expensive |
| 20:42.54 | vita | (I'd prefer a small plain /boot though) |
| 20:42.59 | tete_ | hm |
| 20:43.00 | *** join/#debian z1haze (~z1haze@cpe-174-101-237-205.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 20:43.09 | tete_ | and then copy after each kernel update all files to all 3 partitions |
| 20:43.11 | *** join/#debian SquirrelCZECH (~squirrel@ip-89-103-45-17.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 20:43.13 | tete_ | and do a grub-install on all 3? |
| 20:43.15 | tete_ | boeh :> |
| 20:43.21 | z1haze | can someone please help me setup mail on my server? i just need to be able to send out mail.. but i dont know how to make it work |
| 20:43.29 | s0m3b0dy | vita: openvpn-as or regular? |
| 20:43.47 | tete_ | z1haze, there are many many tutorials out there |
| 20:43.48 | vita | tete_ oh, sure, you don't even have a "normal" plain hdd left I guess! |
| 20:44.10 | tete_ | vita, i do :) its just 3 SSDs and i set them up with dmraid |
| 20:44.41 | z1haze | ive tried installing sendmail and i get some dependency error |
| 20:44.52 | z1haze | sendmail : Depends: sendmail-bin but it is not going to be installed |
| 20:44.52 | z1haze | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 20:45.18 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: apt-get install -f |
| 20:45.20 | vita | sOm3body: uh.. regular, I guess.. a regular openvpn-server on linux, and importing the configfile and certs into the network-manager icon.. no special software installed on the client at all.. |
| 20:46.01 | s0m3b0dy | vita: in that case #openvpn would be the way to go :) |
| 20:46.15 | *** part/#debian gigasphere (~cag@host86-171-171-69.range86-171.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:46.26 | s0m3b0dy | vita: I personally hate setting up VPN services because there can be hundreds of errors and no documentation, but good luck! |
| 20:46.30 | vita | tete_: yeah, then those three drives are occupied already..? You could, of course, leave 1gb on one of them for a plain partition.. |
| 20:46.51 | tete_ | hm i hope there is a better way :/ |
| 20:46.58 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-7-15.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 20:47.09 | z1haze | s0m3b0dy it said the same thing |
| 20:47.19 | vita | som3body: oh, right, I'll try that! they might say "hey, server and config and certificates work, so it's no problem on our side!".. they might have heard of this already though |
| 20:47.23 | z1haze | all i want to do is be able to send registration emails from my forums |
| 20:47.54 | sebastian1 | z1haze: that's not something someone can exactly help you with here. There is quite a lot to configure to send and recieve email. Especially if you have no idea how to make it work. |
| 20:48.08 | z1haze | i dont care to recieve mail |
| 20:48.31 | sebastian1 | z1haze: if exim is installed, it's probably asking to be removed to install sendmail |
| 20:48.43 | vita | tete_: well, in fact, if grub has dm-raid drivers, it should work when any or all of the three drives have grub in the mbr.. maybe I'm totally off here though |
| 20:48.45 | z1haze | is exim default? |
| 20:48.55 | sebastian1 | recieving is a tiny part of config |
| 20:48.56 | *** join/#debian BarthezZ` (BarthezZ@ip51cd391a.speed.planet.nl) |
| 20:49.25 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~textual@bet.shavings.volia.net) |
| 20:49.41 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.207) |
| 20:49.51 | z1haze | so what should i do.. i mean i have my site and stuff, but i cant use it because i cant sen the emails |
| 20:49.59 | z1haze | i dont know how to fix it, i just wish someone would help me |
| 20:50.05 | vita | huh?!? "#openvpn Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned" I never was in that chan before..? |
| 20:50.17 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: apt-mark showhold |
| 20:50.33 | z1haze | whas that? |
| 20:50.42 | s0m3b0dy | you probably ran a script or something that held packages |
| 20:50.53 | s0m3b0dy | and because THOSE are held, you can't upgrade anything that depends on them |
| 20:50.56 | DanDare | vita, you may be get catch ed in a range IP ban |
| 20:51.03 | z1haze | well i ran that command. nothing happened |
| 20:51.14 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 20:51.28 | DanDare | vita, lets say they banned your entire country IP range (or something) :p |
| 20:51.43 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: can you run: apt-get install sendmail-* and pastebin the output? |
| 20:51.52 | vita | dandare: that's a possibility.. sigh.. this turns out more and more complicated lol |
| 20:51.54 | s0m3b0dy | er wait |
| 20:51.58 | z1haze | i didnt type the -* |
| 20:52.08 | s0m3b0dy | don't |
| 20:52.10 | s0m3b0dy | just do sendmail |
| 20:52.15 | s0m3b0dy | and paste the output in a pastebin |
| 20:52.36 | *** join/#debian diginet (~diginet@107.170.146.29) |
| 20:52.46 | z1haze | http://pastebin.com/WV5N0PE7 |
| 20:52.46 | DanDare | vita, connects using some VPN, to get an alternative IP and enter there |
| 20:53.28 | cynicallemon | z1haze: you could try doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and answer tne prompts |
| 20:53.35 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: what happens if you run: "apt-get install -y sendmail-bin" |
| 20:53.56 | *** part/#debian spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) |
| 20:54.07 | z1haze | its doing a bunch of stuff |
| 20:54.28 | z1haze | frozen now at Updating /etc/mail/aliases... |
| 20:54.36 | s0m3b0dy | hmm |
| 20:54.41 | s0m3b0dy | should have fixed it tbh |
| 20:54.51 | vita | dandare: well, my initial problem is my vpn doesn't work.. *giggle* enough for today I guess! |
| 20:54.51 | s0m3b0dy | it's weird that it doesn't autoinstall sendmail-bin though |
| 20:54.55 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@vutral.net) |
| 20:54.55 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 20:55.01 | *** join/#debian cat_pants (~kerry@209.189.196.1) |
| 20:55.13 | *** join/#debian Savemech (~Savemech@46.173.44.20) |
| 20:55.42 | z1haze | ./usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: exim4-config is broken or not fully installed |
| 20:56.00 | z1haze | i installed this straight from a cd |
| 20:56.03 | *** join/#debian asc232 (~Keith@190.51.20.158) |
| 20:56.24 | s0m3b0dy | hm |
| 20:56.43 | cynicallemon | z1haze: try sudo apt-get install exim4 |
| 20:56.44 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: try dpkg-reconfigure exim4 |
| 20:57.02 | *** join/#debian tenkyuu (~tenkyuu@pool-173-66-36-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:57.10 | s0m3b0dy | er, try his first to see if it's installed |
| 20:57.10 | z1haze | ok im gong to let this udpating /etc/mail/aliases sit here for a while or what? |
| 20:57.20 | cynicallemon | z1haze: then try doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and answer tne prompts |
| 20:57.41 | z1haze | its just sitting here http://puu.sh/aU18s/6681b83654.png |
| 20:57.47 | cynicallemon | z1haze: i think only a base exam system is installed by default |
| 20:57.54 | cynicallemon | *exim |
| 20:58.35 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: what are the stats on that box? |
| 20:58.36 | *** join/#debian wtkp (~wtkp@unaffiliated/wtkp) |
| 20:58.48 | z1haze | what do you want to know |
| 20:58.53 | *** join/#debian voxadam (~adam@unaffiliated/voxadam) |
| 20:58.55 | z1haze | there it finally done |
| 20:58.59 | s0m3b0dy | cpu/ram to see if it should be taking this long |
| 20:58.59 | *** part/#debian voxadam (~adam@unaffiliated/voxadam) |
| 20:59.01 | s0m3b0dy | ah okay :) |
| 20:59.03 | cynicallemon | z1haze: is this mail server on a box at home or on a VPS etc? |
| 20:59.11 | z1haze | dedicated server |
| 20:59.16 | z1haze | well actually its a vps within my dedicated server |
| 20:59.28 | z1haze | the box is running the vmware hypervisor |
| 20:59.59 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: should be fine though |
| 21:00.19 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: does your VPS have the hostname of your site? |
| 21:00.25 | s0m3b0dy | and the rDNS? |
| 21:00.31 | z1haze | it has its own ip |
| 21:00.32 | s0m3b0dy | otherwise sendmail will go straight to spam |
| 21:00.40 | *** join/#debian sharky (~sharky@lak-39-124.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) |
| 21:00.47 | z1haze | how do i test this sendmail to see if it works |
| 21:00.47 | *** join/#debian Mattry (~canaima@190.142.186.33) |
| 21:00.58 | Mattry | hola |
| 21:01.12 | z1haze | [ ok ] Starting Mail Transport Agent (MTA): sendmail. |
| 21:01.12 | z1haze | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.15 | s0m3b0dy | http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2011/03/sendmail-how-to-test-sending-email.html |
| 21:01.20 | s0m3b0dy | should be good :D |
| 21:02.24 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@177.96.115.93) |
| 21:02.24 | *** join/#debian j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 21:02.26 | *** join/#debian j0z_ (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) |
| 21:02.35 | *** part/#debian Mattry (~canaima@190.142.186.33) |
| 21:02.45 | z1haze | ok umm i created this mail.txt |
| 21:02.48 | z1haze | where do i put it though |
| 21:02.50 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: but this may be an issue that you run into as well: http://serverfault.com/questions/45272/how-does-a-reverse-dns-lookup-work-with-regards-to-spam-filters |
| 21:02.59 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: anywhere on the server, just open a new file with nano/vi |
| 21:04.36 | *** join/#debian RLW980 (516bc734@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.107.199.52) |
| 21:04.45 | z1haze | sendmail: command not found? |
| 21:04.49 | RLW980 | can I install debian onto a 2gb usb? |
| 21:04.59 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: you have to install sendmail as well |
| 21:05.04 | z1haze | yes its working this time at least |
| 21:05.07 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: you just installed sendmail-bin |
| 21:05.40 | z1haze | ok installed sendmail, same message; command not found |
| 21:05.46 | z1haze | do i need to sudo it? |
| 21:05.57 | RLW980 | msg |
| 21:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1429] by debhelper |
| 21:06.12 | cynicallemon | RLW980: you should be able to |
| 21:06.20 | z1haze | ok well i sudo'd it and its just sitting now.. |
| 21:06.48 | *** join/#debian donkey_boy (~sdfg@85-76-112-200-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 21:06.55 | donkey_boy | hi everyone burn all jews in oven! |
| 21:06.59 | donkey_boy | god bless allah |
| 21:07.01 | donkey_boy | allahu akhbar |
| 21:07.04 | donkey_boy | death to infidels |
| 21:07.07 | donkey_boy | sieg heil! |
| 21:07.09 | donkey_boy | heil hitler! |
| 21:07.10 | *** join/#debian w1sk4s (~Nobody@12.pool85-52-3.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 21:07.14 | donkey_boy | i throw stones to jews |
| 21:07.24 | donkey_boy | burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn |
| 21:07.25 | donkey_boy | all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven |
| 21:07.27 | donkey_boy | burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn |
| 21:07.27 | donkey_boy | all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven |
| 21:07.31 | sexyboy | donkey_boy: you like getting banned, don't you |
| 21:07.36 | donkey_boy | yes |
| 21:07.51 | s0m3b0dy | donkey_boy: well your name implies exactly what you are |
| 21:08.06 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: i'm downloading it as we are speaking, it is 1.2GB big how would I install it to the USB pen drive. |
| 21:08.07 | cynicallemon | z1haze: if you get really stuck, follow this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-send-only-mail-server-exim-on-ubuntu-12-04 |
| 21:08.17 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: did it work as sudo? |
| 21:08.32 | z1haze | yes, it spit out a ton of stuff, let me pastebin it.. it didnt send any email though |
| 21:08.43 | cynicallemon | RLW980: which iso are you downloading? |
| 21:08.44 | s0m3b0dy | well, that's a step at least :p |
| 21:08.57 | donkey_boy | BURN ALL JEWS IN OVEN |
| 21:09.04 | donkey_boy | MY STONES CRUSH ISRAELI TANKS |
| 21:09.07 | donkey_boy | I THROW STONES TO JEWS |
| 21:09.08 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso |
| 21:09.18 | donkey_boy | JEWS STOLE ALL DIAMOND MINES FROM INNOCENT PALESTINIANS |
| 21:09.31 | z1haze | s0m3b0dy http://pastebin.com/TB22LV8D |
| 21:09.38 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 21:09.48 | cynicallemon | RLW980: you on a windows or linux machine? |
| 21:09.48 | z1haze | and cynicallemon i dont have ubuntu; wouldnt that matter? |
| 21:09.58 | donkey_boy | burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn |
| 21:09.59 | donkey_boy | all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven |
| 21:10.00 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: okay easy fixes |
| 21:10.02 | cynicallemon | z1haze: doesnt matter |
| 21:10.07 | cromag | !ops |
| 21:10.07 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 21:10.14 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: linux |
| 21:10.15 | sebastian1 | I love debian! |
| 21:10.21 | donkey_boy | burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn |
| 21:10.22 | donkey_boy | all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven |
| 21:10.24 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: first of all, run this: apt-get -y install nano && nano /etc/hostname |
| 21:10.27 | teraflops | just ignore the troll |
| 21:10.32 | z1haze | i have nano |
| 21:10.38 | cromag | !ops have a look at donkey_boy |
| 21:10.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: cromag complains about: have a look at donkey_boy |
| 21:10.41 | *** join/#debian marcidy (~marcidy@184.152.32.199) |
| 21:10.42 | *** join/#debian marcidy (~marcidy@unaffiliated/marcidy) |
| 21:10.48 | z1haze | hostname is just 'terminus' |
| 21:10.48 | s0m3b0dy | oh, okay, just run the part after the && then |
| 21:10.52 | z1haze | thats what i set it up as |
| 21:10.52 | *** join/#debian blitzed (~blitzed@cpe-75-80-28-210.san.res.rr.com) |
| 21:10.57 | cromag | oh - easy |
| 21:11.29 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: it needs to be a real routable hostname |
| 21:11.38 | z1haze | like domain? |
| 21:11.44 | s0m3b0dy | yes |
| 21:11.49 | s0m3b0dy | or A record |
| 21:11.49 | z1haze | so my url of my site? |
| 21:12.08 | z1haze | this ok? terminus-gaming.com |
| 21:12.09 | s0m3b0dy | yes, but your site needs to have an A record of the same hostname that points to the IP of your server |
| 21:12.12 | s0m3b0dy | yes |
| 21:12.19 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: Is there something wrong |
| 21:12.23 | z1haze | yes an the arecord is already done |
| 21:12.24 | cynicallemon | RLW980: either install unetbootin or use the dd command - if you use the dd command then make sure you get the "of" destination partition right as it overwrites the volume completely |
| 21:12.28 | s0m3b0dy | oh, perfect |
| 21:12.36 | z1haze | the site is live on this vps now |
| 21:12.43 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@unaffiliated/se-bash) |
| 21:12.47 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: PM me with more help |
| 21:12.56 | *** join/#debian Kiril (kiril@freebsd/lover/kiril) |
| 21:13.15 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: okay, so change the contents of /etc/hostname to be your domain |
| 21:13.15 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: Let's wait for the .iso to download first |
| 21:13.20 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: and then run this command: /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start |
| 21:13.26 | cynicallemon | RLW980: do a "man dd" in terminal for more info |
| 21:13.47 | z1haze | done |
| 21:13.49 | *** join/#debian r4n13nt (~Raul@12.pool85-52-3.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 21:14.07 | ompaul | z1haze: you must have dns properly pointing to it and it has a reverse dns - i.e. you have a www.yoursite.whatever points to a sequence between 1.1.1.1 and 255.255.255.255 |
| 21:14.14 | z1haze | didnt return ayntrhing tho |
| 21:14.25 | z1haze | umm |
| 21:14.31 | z1haze | not sure what you mean |
| 21:14.37 | z1haze | i have an a record pointing to my vps ip |
| 21:14.38 | cynicallemon | RLW980: do a "sudo fdisk -l" to list your current partitions |
| 21:14.43 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.207) |
| 21:14.46 | s0m3b0dy | ompaul: he already does, which was explained above |
| 21:14.52 | *** join/#debian b3niup (~b3niup@2a00:dcc0:eda:98:216:3cff:fe43:4f2c) |
| 21:15.00 | ompaul | goes to read again |
| 21:15.01 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: if you run the command "hostname" what is returned? |
| 21:15.11 | z1haze | yes |
| 21:15.22 | s0m3b0dy | the domain? |
| 21:15.24 | z1haze | yes |
| 21:15.33 | s0m3b0dy | okay try running the sendmail command again |
| 21:16.11 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: also, the first email was sent, but it's likely in spam |
| 21:16.11 | ompaul | does it have an MX record for mail? |
| 21:16.21 | *** join/#debian TalkSoup (~eric@pool-74-99-173-12.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:16.24 | z1haze | im checking spam |
| 21:16.34 | s0m3b0dy | ompaul: MX records are for receiving mail :p |
| 21:17.07 | z1haze | http://pastebin.com/JztNx7iL s0m3b0dy |
| 21:17.08 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: if I can jump in and recommend something, why not use hosted email? That way you will be able to send/receive mail much easier |
| 21:17.18 | s0m3b0dy | you could use something like google apps |
| 21:17.28 | z1haze | i actually have hosted email |
| 21:17.28 | ompaul | sending from no mx will have you blocked on many servers incoming (permissible by RFCs and used as anti spam) |
| 21:17.30 | z1haze | i use zoho |
| 21:17.46 | *** join/#debian Guest84323 (~systmkor@unaffiliated/systmkor) |
| 21:17.52 | z1haze | but smtp settings i were using in the forum control panel didnt seem to be sending anything |
| 21:17.57 | s0m3b0dy | oh |
| 21:18.00 | *** join/#debian ThatGraemeGuy (~graeme@105-236-223-250.access.mtnbusiness.co.za) |
| 21:18.06 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: did you get that last email? |
| 21:18.13 | z1haze | no :( |
| 21:18.25 | *** join/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 21:18.36 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 21:18.48 | s0m3b0dy | HIDDEN@hotmail.com... Sent (s7FLGZv4012231 Message accepted for delivery) |
| 21:18.55 | s0m3b0dy | ^ should have sent properly |
| 21:18.57 | cynicallemon | z1haze: sometimes it takes a while to get a message |
| 21:19.23 | ompaul | does mailq tell you there are queued mails? |
| 21:19.41 | z1haze | ok i see both mails now |
| 21:19.43 | z1haze | both in spam |
| 21:19.59 | s0m3b0dy | z1haze: okay the reason the second one is in spam, is because you don't have the rDNS set up properly |
| 21:20.02 | *** join/#debian mvensky (~mvensky@2600:1012:b007:2168:225:ff:fe4a:695c) |
| 21:20.06 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~enkrypt@d51A48B68.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:20.09 | teraflops | ^ |
| 21:20.17 | *** join/#debian MrZodiac (~MrZ@modula.travishafer.com) |
| 21:20.23 | z1haze | and the first one? |
| 21:20.35 | s0m3b0dy | because of that, and because you were not using the right hostname |
| 21:20.49 | z1haze | so progress i suppose; now just need to get it out of spam |
| 21:20.53 | z1haze | easier said than done, or? |
| 21:21.05 | s0m3b0dy | pretty easily done too |
| 21:21.12 | z1haze | oh wait |
| 21:21.12 | *** join/#debian JNixx (~jack@57.175.251.212.customer.cdi.no) |
| 21:21.14 | z1haze | total fail |
| 21:21.19 | s0m3b0dy | not sure how to do that though, there is a setting in vmware to change the reverse DNS |
| 21:21.25 | z1haze | dont have the emails |
| 21:21.29 | *** join/#debian RaphaelT (~RaphaelT@mx.raphaelt.fr) |
| 21:21.32 | s0m3b0dy | D: |
| 21:21.32 | s0m3b0dy | no? |
| 21:21.33 | *** join/#debian towski_ (~towski@ip98-164-204-184.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 21:21.36 | z1haze | so back up a step, havent received any emails |
| 21:22.05 | s0m3b0dy | hmm |
| 21:22.07 | z1haze | ok :D again, i did find it |
| 21:22.15 | z1haze | had some erroneous email from |
| 21:22.18 | z1haze | but i foudn both of them |
| 21:22.20 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@dsl092-078-219.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 21:22.30 | *** join/#debian aindilis (~aindilis@173-165-36-107-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 21:22.34 | s0m3b0dy | oh, good! |
| 21:22.38 | z1haze | both in spam, from some random email to_whoever@example.org |
| 21:22.47 | s0m3b0dy | oh lol |
| 21:22.49 | z1haze | probably fro mthat mail.txt file |
| 21:22.53 | s0m3b0dy | yeah |
| 21:23.23 | z1haze | so, login to vsphere? |
| 21:24.01 | s0m3b0dy | yep |
| 21:24.09 | s0m3b0dy | I don't know where the setting would be |
| 21:24.11 | z1haze | well ive never used this lol |
| 21:24.22 | z1haze | ill look online, what should i search for |
| 21:25.45 | *** join/#debian rx (~rx@modemcable163.113-161-184.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1438] by debhelper |
| 21:26.30 | *** join/#debian centrx (~centrx@pool-72-74-93-20.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:27.09 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:bc3e:fba1:a90e:764c) |
| 21:28.25 | *** part/#debian w1sk4s (~Nobody@12.pool85-52-3.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 21:28.34 | *** part/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 21:30.52 | *** join/#debian RLW980 (516bc734@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.107.199.52) |
| 21:31.50 | RLW980 | Can I install Debian 7.6.0 - 1.2GB size onto a 2GB USB |
| 21:33.35 | s0m3b0dy | RLW980: what do you mean install it onto a USB? |
| 21:33.46 | s0m3b0dy | you want to install the whole OS, or have it as a portable OS: |
| 21:34.14 | RLW980 | s0m3b0dy: like burning a .iso onto a blank disk |
| 21:36.14 | ompaul | RLW980: you can copy it to the usbstick for installing - it must be copied DAO (disk at once) if you have a linux system cat some-image.iso > /dev/whatevertheusbis |
| 21:36.53 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744167020.direcpc.com) |
| 21:37.45 | *** join/#debian Starduster (~user@unaffiliated/starduster) |
| 21:37.52 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-152-210-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:37.54 | RLW980 | ompaul: I want to burn the .iso to the USB |
| 21:38.24 | *** join/#debian TheNumbers (uid21212@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-loxcxdtdjzfperyz) |
| 21:38.50 | *** join/#debian dawiss (~AndChat17@90-156-104-85.internetia.net.pl) |
| 21:39.03 | tete_ | dd is your friend |
| 21:39.16 | sexyboy | RLW980: use dd with caution |
| 21:39.25 | sexyboy | RLW980: dont overwrite your host by accident |
| 21:39.41 | *** join/#debian dawiss (~AndChat17@90-156-104-85.internetia.net.pl) |
| 21:40.09 | mtn | RLW980: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 21:40.27 | ompaul | RLW980: you don't burn but copy |
| 21:40.57 | *** join/#debian atyoung (~atyoung@gateway/tor-sasl/darkwurm) |
| 21:41.27 | RLW980 | sexyboy: ok |
| 21:41.31 | RLW980 | ompaul: ok |
| 21:42.42 | babilen | dpkg: tell RLW980 -about usb install |
| 21:42.57 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 21:43.17 | *** join/#debian manolete (~xxx@12.pool85-52-3.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 21:43.19 | RLW980 | babilen: thanks I'm new to all of this see |
| 21:43.46 | *** join/#debian blivande (~Chw@189.193.69.170) |
| 21:45.36 | b3niup | Hello, is any debian.org admin here? |
| 21:45.44 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@AAnnecy-552-1-420-103.w90-41.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:47.26 | *** join/#debian eanyx (~quassel@nan92-8-88-178-253-241.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:47.27 | *** join/#debian dawiss (~AndChat17@90-156-104-85.internetia.net.pl) |
| 21:47.32 | *** part/#debian dawiss (~AndChat17@90-156-104-85.internetia.net.pl) |
| 21:48.46 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~textual@5.18.183.234) |
| 21:49.41 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 21:49.45 | *** join/#debian keoz (~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:51.08 | *** join/#debian Shock255 (~Shock126@172-8-92-59.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:51.31 | *** join/#debian jbraeg (~jbraeg@argalicontest.com) |
| 21:52.17 | mentor | b3niup: Why? |
| 21:52.48 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@cpe-071-071-210-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 21:54.13 | *** join/#debian rackjam (~Raul@12.pool85-52-3.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 21:55.09 | babilen | RLW980: Ask the bot about <install debian> <firmware image> <various cd1> too -- /msg dpkg install debian |
| 21:55.20 | b3niup | mentor: I'm always using PIA vpn when connecting to the internet and it seems that debian.org has banned pia ip adress(es?). And it's annoying to always add routes to bypass vpn for debian.org (yes, i know i can add this to vpn client config, but still..) |
| 21:56.05 | mentor | b3niup: Try asking in #debian-devel on OFTC |
| 21:56.53 | b3niup | mentor: thanks :) |
| 21:58.00 | *** join/#debian shinnya (~shinnya@22.86.236.133.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 21:58.12 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-147-98.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 21:58.36 | *** part/#debian rackjam (~Raul@12.pool85-52-3.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 21:58.44 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 21:58.50 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@ip1f13e402.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 21:58.51 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 22:00.00 | *** join/#debian Cyph3r (~Cyph3r@71-84-78-55.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com) |
| 22:00.41 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 22:02.02 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@105.157.156.184) |
| 22:02.30 | *** join/#debian cynicallemon (~cynicalle@gateway/tor-sasl/cynicallemon) |
| 22:06.49 | *** join/#debian plastixhd (~plastixhd@5419652F.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 22:07.04 | RLW980 | When I am using the "dd" command all I am getting is this: [root@acer-aspire-5315 Ryan]# dd bs=4M if=/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb1 && sync dd: error reading â/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.isoâ: Input/output error 27+1 records in 27+1 records out 113455104 bytes (113 MB) copied, 44.1267 s, 2.6 MB/s [root@acer-aspire-5315 Ryan]# |
| 22:07.06 | mhoney | join #debian-live |
| 22:07.24 | *** join/#debian Jafura (~Jean-Fran@2a02:2788:114:11ce:4cbf:5faa:8a2e:8949) |
| 22:07.59 | RLW980 | wHat does that mean? |
| 22:08.06 | plastixhd | Hey guys. |
| 22:08.11 | plastixhd | I have a problem |
| 22:08.13 | *** join/#debian Otyugh (~otyugh__@ARennes-251-1-201-226.w2-10.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:08.16 | plastixhd | preecherLDC |
| 22:08.19 | plastixhd | oops |
| 22:08.50 | babilen | RLW980: I wouldn't recommend to use dd, but just "cp /home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso /dev/sdb ; sync" (you copy directly to your stick not a partition, please check "dmesg|tail -n23" after plugging it in if it is really /dev/sdb) |
| 22:08.53 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar) |
| 22:09.14 | cynicallemon | babilen: why not dd? |
| 22:09.23 | plastixhd | Cqan somebody hlp me please |
| 22:09.26 | babilen | RLW980: And are you sure that you want to install i386 (32bit) and not amd64 (64bit) ? |
| 22:09.41 | cynicallemon | RLW980: /dev/sdb, not sdb1 |
| 22:09.44 | babilen | cynicallemon: Because it's syntax is horrible and it is slower by default |
| 22:09.54 | babilen | (it does not scale the blocksize automatically like cp) |
| 22:10.08 | babilen | dpkg: tell plastixhd -about smart questions |
| 22:10.14 | *** join/#debian arrith (~arrith@108-66-134-195.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:10.40 | cynicallemon | babilen: dd syntax is simple |
| 22:10.52 | babilen | RLW980: Furthermore, if you want to install Debian I would rather recommend to use an installer image rather than a live one as they are more thoroughly tested for that. |
| 22:10.58 | cynicallemon | babilen: but each to their own |
| 22:11.14 | cynicallemon | babilen: rubbish |
| 22:11.18 | RLW980 | babilen: yes i use 32 bit |
| 22:11.37 | babilen | cynicallemon: You can't tell me that "dd if=/path/to/foo.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M" is simpler than "cp /path/to/foo.iso /dev/sdb" |
| 22:11.46 | RLW980 | babilen: there we go cp: error reading â/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.isoâ: Input/output error cp: failed to extend â/dev/sdb1â: Input/output error |
| 22:12.06 | *** join/#debian dillybar (~anon@75-167-64-109.desm.qwest.net) |
| 22:12.19 | babilen | RLW980: Please check the command I gave above and note again that it is /dev/sdb and *not* /dev/sdb1 (note the missing 1 at the end) |
| 22:12.56 | babilen | cynicallemon: Please be so kind to refrain from statements such as "rubbish" - they add nothing and do not help |
| 22:13.04 | rryoumaa | cp scales? |
| 22:13.08 | *** part/#debian plastixhd (~plastixhd@5419652F.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 22:13.11 | cynicallemon | RLW980: dd if=/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M |
| 22:13.55 | *** join/#debian gswain (~gswain@71.39.116.1) |
| 22:14.05 | *** join/#debian chwy (~chwy@unaffiliated/chwy) |
| 22:14.47 | RLW980 | Nope still the same: [root@acer-aspire-5315 Ryan]# cp /home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso /dev/sdb ; sync cp: overwrite â/dev/sdbâ? yes cp: error reading â/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.isoâ: Input/output error cp: failed to extend â/dev/sdbâ: Input/output error [root@acer-aspire-5315 Ryan]# dd if=/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 22:14.47 | cynicallemon | rryoumaa: yeah its a new weighing system |
| 22:14.47 | *** part/#debian dillybar (~anon@75-167-64-109.desm.qwest.net) |
| 22:14.49 | babilen | RLW980: And you checked that your stick is indeed /dev/sdb ? This can be done by running "dmesg|tail -n23" after plugging it in. |
| 22:14.59 | *** join/#debian dillybar (~anon@75-167-64-109.desm.qwest.net) |
| 22:15.29 | babilen | RLW980: Which operating system is that? And it is not "sync cp" but just "sync" |
| 22:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1432] by debhelper |
| 22:16.02 | *** join/#debian cat_pants (~kerry@209.189.196.1) |
| 22:16.11 | RLW980 | babilen: my current os is fedora |
| 22:16.47 | blast_hardcheese | aksnowman: Did you figure it out? |
| 22:17.25 | babilen | RLW980: Both I and cynicallemon have given you commands that essentially do the same thing and you just have to run them exactly as they have been given to you. You might want to run "dmesg|tail -n23" after plugging in your stick and showing us the output on http://paste.debian.net |
| 22:17.57 | babilen | RLW980: But details such as /dev/sdb vs /dev/sdb1 and "sync" vs "sync cp" make a difference and you cannot just freestyle it :) |
| 22:18.05 | cynicallemon | or even pastebin, sudo fdisk -l |
| 22:19.22 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@88.253.145.213) |
| 22:19.45 | babilen | RLW980: You might also want to check that the download was completed correctly |
| 22:19.48 | babilen | brb |
| 22:19.56 | *** join/#debian zanchoPansa (~pi@186-105-109-37.baf.movistar.cl) |
| 22:20.06 | *** join/#debian swordsmanz (~swordsman@unaffiliated/swordsmanz) |
| 22:20.21 | RLW980 | babilen: it is downloaded completely |
| 22:21.25 | RLW980 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/115835/ |
| 22:21.28 | *** join/#debian |knack| (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 22:21.30 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@206.sub-174-236-131.myvzw.com) |
| 22:21.43 | *** join/#debian cheetah2 (~cheetah2@181.51.254.116) |
| 22:22.04 | cynicallemon | RLW980: yep its /dev/sdb |
| 22:22.31 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: OK |
| 22:23.13 | cynicallemon | RLW980: are you doing dd as root or sudo? |
| 22:23.17 | *** join/#debian FreezingCold (~FreezingC@135.0.41.14) |
| 22:23.58 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: root |
| 22:24.17 | cynicallemon | RLW980: ok |
| 22:25.32 | cynicallemon | RLW980: then try that dd command again without the bs=4m on the end, it maybe slower but ive found that causes problems on ocasions |
| 22:25.39 | babilen | RLW980: Is that USB 3? |
| 22:25.50 | babilen | dd really isn't needed here |
| 22:25.53 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: OK |
| 22:25.53 | babilen | But meh |
| 22:26.08 | *** join/#debian icebourg (~icebourg@c-75-70-18-13.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 22:26.43 | *** join/#debian Cyph3r (~Cyph3r@71-84-78-55.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com) |
| 22:26.52 | RLW980 | Nope still nothing |
| 22:27.09 | *** join/#debian froken_longstock (~quassel@2601:8:8280:3a1:51e4:b464:778d:ca1c) |
| 22:27.15 | cynicallemon | RLW980: do you have another usb stick you can try? |
| 22:27.26 | *** join/#debian ksh (~ksh@gateway/tor-sasl/skulls) |
| 22:27.37 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: nope |
| 22:28.23 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~user@dslb-188-104-105-190.188.104.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 22:29.15 | cynicallemon | RLW980: perhaps the usb drive is in a limbo state and needs a reformat, dd should not worry about that but ive had instances where I reformat a usb stick and its fine |
| 22:29.48 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: OK, can you help me then please or are you busy :) |
| 22:30.41 | cynicallemon | RLW980: do you have gparted installed? |
| 22:30.42 | babilen | RLW980: All the best, I'm heading off. This might very well be your USB drive and its connection (unfortunately you haven't answered about USB 3), but you might want to try different sockets and also to overwrite part of the stick (e.g. let cynicallemon show you an actual application of dd in which it is needed by writing a couple of blocks from /dev/zero to the drive) |
| 22:31.10 | RLW980 | babilen: I don't know what USB 3 means? |
| 22:31.17 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: and yes I do have it installed |
| 22:31.18 | babilen | Furthermore you might want to take a look at the structure that is already on that. Either way, /me is off and wishes you all the best. |
| 22:31.47 | babilen | RLW980: Different USB standards (depends on the age of your hardware and so on - also usb hubs are sometimes poison so play with that) |
| 22:31.49 | cynicallemon | open gparted and select your usb drive /dev/sdb |
| 22:32.06 | RLW980 | babilen: OK |
| 22:32.09 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: Right |
| 22:32.46 | MY123 | babilen: Will Mesa 10.3 be included in Jessie ? |
| 22:33.26 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: OK done that |
| 22:33.56 | *** join/#debian Extensa5630G (~hassoon@197.0.203.4) |
| 22:33.57 | *** join/#debian Extensa5630G (~hassoon@unaffiliated/hassen) |
| 22:34.04 | cynicallemon | RLW980: assuming you have selected the usb drive correctly in gparted then click on "Device" in menu and create new partition table |
| 22:34.32 | *** join/#debian Randy- (Randy@71-209-117-100.sxfl.qwest.net) |
| 22:34.47 | cynicallemon | RLW980: and apply that |
| 22:35.20 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: As ms-dos yeah? |
| 22:35.33 | cynicallemon | RLW980: yeah thats fine |
| 22:35.52 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: I've applyed that |
| 22:36.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1426] by debhelper |
| 22:36.02 | *** join/#debian ivanshmakov| (~ivanshmak@violet.siamics.net) |
| 22:36.19 | Randy- | Weird question |
| 22:36.27 | Randy- | does anyone in here have experience with government clearances in the US? |
| 22:36.40 | cynicallemon | RLW980: you can choose to format it if you wish but it should be fine as it is. close gparted and issue that dd command now |
| 22:36.58 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: so close Gparted? yeah? |
| 22:37.05 | cynicallemon | RLW980: yeah |
| 22:37.42 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: then what do I type in this: dd if=/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 22:37.45 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: or not |
| 22:37.51 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 22:37.59 | *** join/#debian pkv (~pkv_@liv26-1-88-167-196-149.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:38.32 | cynicallemon | RLW980: yeah and try it with bs=4M on the end first |
| 22:38.33 | *** join/#debian Svetlana__ (quasselcor@gryllida.xen.prgmr.com) |
| 22:38.53 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: righto ok |
| 22:40.04 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: nope here is a error: [root@acer-aspire-5315 Ryan]# dd if=/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M dd: error reading â/home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.isoâ: Input/output error 27+1 records in 27+1 records out 113455104 bytes (113 MB) copied, 36.9703 s, 3.1 MB/s [root@acer-aspire-5315 Ryan]# |
| 22:40.41 | cynicallemon | RLW980: i think you may have a corrupt download |
| 22:40.56 | *** join/#debian johnnyb (~johnnyb@2a00:1028:8388:70e6:222:faff:fe4d:2680) |
| 22:41.00 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@p5DDBF7DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:41.05 | *** join/#debian msmith_ (msmith@nat/acquia/x-oposxmgiuycfhocr) |
| 22:41.07 | *** join/#debian Rezachkata (Bobby@84.252.30.195) |
| 22:41.22 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: but I have been watching it download though |
| 22:41.34 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: What shall I do then? |
| 22:41.46 | *** join/#debian msmith_ (msmith@nat/acquia/x-nyhkmnsgnunwlpns) |
| 22:41.53 | cynicallemon | RLW980: do you have access to a windows box? |
| 22:42.35 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: Windows box? :S |
| 22:42.59 | cynicallemon | RLW980: :) |
| 22:43.17 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: What is a Windows box? |
| 22:43.42 | cynicallemon | RLW980: do you have a pc with Windows installed? |
| 22:43.43 | mtn | raises eyebrow |
| 22:44.12 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: Nope |
| 22:44.34 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~ridout@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 22:45.11 | cynicallemon | RLW980: no worries, i would try get another usb stick to try or download that live iso again |
| 22:45.18 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 22:45.20 | *** join/#debian Lazik (~341234123@unaffiliated/lazik) |
| 22:45.48 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: I ain't got a spare one :( |
| 22:45.53 | *** join/#debian brianherman (~brianherm@c-73-36-224-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 22:46.15 | cynicallemon | RLW980: it might be a bad usb stick... |
| 22:46.36 | *** join/#debian Rezachkata (Bobby@84.252.30.195) |
| 22:46.40 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: It can't be |
| 22:47.13 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: there must be a oher program to not just UNetbootin |
| 22:47.22 | cynicallemon | RLW980: you could try checking the md5sum of that download to see if it matches |
| 22:47.49 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: How do I do that |
| 22:49.42 | cynicallemon | RLW980: md5sum <your iso name> |
| 22:50.19 | cynicallemon | RLW so md5sum /home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso |
| 22:52.09 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: md5sum: /home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso: Input/output error |
| 22:52.16 | cynicallemon | RLW980: 9c08e2bad40b95ec72da4d83265f1703 debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso |
| 22:52.29 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 22:52.44 | cynicallemon | RLW980: it should match that string above |
| 22:53.01 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: md5sum: /home/Ryan/Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso: Input/output error |
| 22:53.16 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 22:53.16 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 22:53.18 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: I'm getting a input/output error |
| 22:53.35 | cynicallemon | RLW980: you have a bad download , sorry... |
| 22:54.05 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: So what AM I meant to do |
| 22:54.10 | cynicallemon | RLW980: just beacuse the download finishes doesnt mean its good |
| 22:54.30 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: SO.. |
| 22:54.35 | cynicallemon | RLW980: obvious answer is try to download it again |
| 22:54.38 | *** join/#debian debonaire (~debonaire@ip70-188-51-206.rn.hr.cox.net) |
| 22:54.51 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: it will take forever |
| 22:55.06 | debonaire | i just installed a 64 bit version of debian on this hp 2000-2b09wm laptop. i preserved the recovery partitions for windows 8 incase my friend decided that they wanted to go back to windows. when i boot though it says attempting automatic repair???? wth? should i just trash the windows partitions and reinstall? |
| 22:55.11 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 22:55.59 | squisher | RLW980, input/output error at that point means you have a filesystem / disk issue |
| 22:56.00 | debonaire | the automatic repair fails anyway... so should i just trash the windows recovery partitions and reinstall debian? |
| 22:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1417] by debhelper |
| 22:56.40 | cynicallemon | squisher: which means the download is bad anyway... |
| 22:57.05 | squisher | cynicallemon, yes, but that's the smaller problem at that point, isn't it? I apologize if I missed the bigger picture here... |
| 22:57.38 | RLW980 | squisher: meaning |
| 22:57.49 | *** join/#debian Schubser (~Schbser@176.102.175.137) |
| 22:58.00 | *** join/#debian centurion18 (~observado@r200-40-210-131.static.adinet.com.uy) |
| 22:58.33 | squisher | RLW980, your internal disk has an issue, not your usb stick |
| 22:58.34 | cynicallemon | squisher: the input/output error could just be indicating that the md5sum check could not read that part of the file for whatever reason |
| 22:58.49 | *** join/#debian gswain (~gswain@71.39.116.1) |
| 22:58.51 | squisher | I'd at least check with smartctl and probably run a selftest |
| 22:58.59 | squisher | an fsck wouldn't hurt either |
| 22:59.01 | RLW980 | squisher: OK can I fix it or not |
| 22:59.20 | cynicallemon | squisher: good idea, were running out of ideas :) |
| 22:59.44 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: UGHGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!! |
| 22:59.59 | debonaire | RLW980, what filesystem is it? |
| 23:00.01 | *** join/#debian lasagn4 (~lasagn4@cpe-104-33-3-65.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:00.02 | froken_longstock | RLW980: you can fix anything with enough time. |
| 23:00.03 | lasagn4 | hi |
| 23:00.06 | squisher | RLW980, pastebin sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda |
| 23:00.13 | froken_longstock | except humpty dumpty that poor bastard |
| 23:00.21 | cynicallemon | lol |
| 23:00.28 | *** join/#debian james41382 (~james@unaffiliated/james41382) |
| 23:00.34 | *** join/#debian pederindi1 (~music@237.Red-79-159-214.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:00.45 | lasagn4 | i try update.rcd vboxdrv start and gives error: no runlevel symlinks to modify, i try update-rc.d and i get insserv rejected the script header |
| 23:00.50 | RLW980 | squisher: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda - sudo: smartctl: command not found |
| 23:00.58 | *** join/#debian byte^bnc (~byte@29.ip-37-59-98.eu) |
| 23:01.00 | cynicallemon | RLW980: fedora has the "disk utiity" app which should show your disk health |
| 23:01.27 | *** join/#debian Kerber0s (~kerber0s@105.157.87.180) |
| 23:01.37 | *** join/#debian copec (~copec@schrodbox.unaen.org) |
| 23:01.40 | *** join/#debian avshalom (~brown@c-24-12-215-229.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:01.49 | cynicallemon | RLW980: ah it maybe called "Disks" now |
| 23:02.57 | debonaire | something called gsmartcontrol comes up when i apt-cache search smartctl says its a gui for smartctl .. maybe try that> |
| 23:04.00 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: do i install it |
| 23:04.07 | *** join/#debian copec (~copec@schrodbox.unaen.org) |
| 23:04.37 | *** join/#debian copec (~copec@schrodbox.unaen.org) |
| 23:04.46 | cynicallemon | RLW980: if you are on fedora then "Disks" should be installed i would guess |
| 23:05.15 | cynicallemon | RLW980: try looking in your accessories or system menu |
| 23:05.42 | *** join/#debian xylox (~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147) |
| 23:06.29 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 23:06.30 | debonaire | RLW980, install gsmartcontrol then that smartctl command sshould work |
| 23:06.51 | debonaire | apt-get install gsmartcontrol |
| 23:07.10 | cynicallemon | debonaire: i think hes on fedora |
| 23:07.35 | debonaire | oh... what does fedora use for package management? |
| 23:07.43 | squisher | debonaire, ...? smartmontools is the correct package. apt-file is your friend, don't just recommend random packages please ;-) |
| 23:08.03 | RLW980 | debonaire: just type into command: install gsmartcontrol |
| 23:08.08 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@c-71-62-245-28.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 23:08.20 | debonaire | RLW980, see squisher advice |
| 23:08.30 | *** join/#debian rom1504 (rom1504@rom1504.fr) |
| 23:08.33 | cynicallemon | debonaire: it should use apt but it use some hideous thing like yum |
| 23:08.45 | kirin` | does hplip depend on systemd? |
| 23:09.02 | squisher | RLW980, if you're currently on fedora, I'd suggest you ask in the fedora channel how to check your disks / filesystems. They will be able to help you much better |
| 23:09.07 | mtn | kirin`: nope |
| 23:09.19 | *** part/#debian rom1504 (rom1504@rom1504.fr) |
| 23:09.29 | cynicallemon | kirin`: everything will rely on systemd before long |
| 23:09.35 | mtn | heh |
| 23:09.56 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghostline@92.109.90.61) |
| 23:09.58 | *** join/#debian Shock255 (~Shock126@129.107.176.216) |
| 23:10.23 | *** join/#debian Nohus (~nohus@093105169009.bielskobiala.vectranet.pl) |
| 23:11.30 | *** join/#debian kkvlk_ (~kkvlk@p5B217DC5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:11.47 | *** join/#debian somazero (~somazero@iwhir.net) |
| 23:11.52 | Nohus | Hello, I wanted to know if there is anything wrong with using the 3.16 kernel from "experimental" on Jessie? I need to apply some kernel patches but they won't apply on 3.14. |
| 23:12.40 | debonaire | cynicallemon, i see. i haven't had the chance to play around with it yet. maybe i'll experiment some in a VM later |
| 23:12.51 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~sheltery@123.100.59.49) |
| 23:12.55 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~sheltery@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 23:13.22 | *** join/#debian Guest96303 (uid39513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spaubfrtvsalhnav) |
| 23:15.10 | squisher | Nohus, experimental doesn't mean there is necessarily something wrong with it. Among others it has not received much testing yet. If you're worried about brokeness, check the bug reports |
| 23:15.31 | *** join/#debian phpp_ (~phpp@i59F6A3C4.versanet.de) |
| 23:15.47 | teraflops | cynicallemon: http://bit.ly/1nTU4B5 |
| 23:15.57 | cynicallemon | debonaire: i would personally stay clear of fedora, i guess thats why RLW980 is trying to to test a debian live iso |
| 23:16.00 | *** join/#debian Aaron (~debian@ubuntu/member/aaron) |
| 23:16.26 | *** join/#debian yuyu (~yuyu@KD125055027107.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 23:16.29 | cynicallemon | teraflops: yep that sums it up :) |
| 23:16.35 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: NO!! I want to test it then install it to my HDD |
| 23:16.57 | Nohus | squisher: Well, ok, will try then. I can always boot the previous kernel if anything. |
| 23:16.59 | cynicallemon | RLW980: you had enough of fedora then? |
| 23:17.17 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: YESSS!! |
| 23:17.40 | cynicallemon | debonaire: ^^ take note ^^^ |
| 23:18.28 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@cpe-107-185-144-55.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:19.59 | debonaire | takes notes |
| 23:20.20 | *** join/#debian XSoul (~XRule@tooms.ddns.cablebg.net) |
| 23:20.46 | *** join/#debian james41382 (~james@unaffiliated/james41382) |
| 23:21.11 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: The O.S is saying 64-bit when it is meant to sinstall 32-bit |
| 23:21.50 | cynicallemon | RLW980: huh? |
| 23:22.13 | debonaire | maybe hes using a 64 bit ISO? |
| 23:22.51 | debonaire | RLW980, what kind of CPU do you have? |
| 23:23.21 | cynicallemon | RLW980: 64 bit machine can take either 32 or 64 bit installs |
| 23:23.46 | cynicallemon | RLW980: an older 32bit machine cannot install a 64 bit OS |
| 23:24.25 | *** join/#debian jitsinewbie (~jitsinewb@181.66.119.50) |
| 23:24.28 | *** join/#debian zrafa_ (~rafa@200.85.178.194) |
| 23:24.34 | cynicallemon | RLW980: but you should still be able to dd any iso on a 32 or 64 bit machine |
| 23:25.11 | *** join/#debian UploadDownload (~Upload@uploaddownload.pw) |
| 23:25.37 | zrafa_ | IN xfce, is some way to change the time and date easily without going to the terminal to use the date or hwclock commands? |
| 23:25.42 | *** join/#debian zh1 (~wiz@a85-138-73-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 23:25.47 | *** part/#debian zh1 (~wiz@a85-138-73-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 23:26.05 | *** join/#debian Schubser (~Schbser@176.102.175.137) |
| 23:27.12 | *** join/#debian rax0 (~nx@b0tnet.me) |
| 23:27.33 | squisher | zrafa_, I don't believe so... |
| 23:27.39 | cynicallemon | zrafa_: dont think so |
| 23:28.05 | *** join/#debian Schubser (~Schbser@176.102.175.137) |
| 23:28.30 | RLW980 | squisher: I've installed gsmartcontrol |
| 23:28.46 | cynicallemon | zrafa_: i use ntpdate <ntp server> to keep time synched |
| 23:28.51 | jitsinewbie | i am a desktop user and want to hold videoconferences with friends who are windows users and are desktop users who connect to the internet using a router. i am thinking about using jistsi. is anyone here using jitsi on jessie? i could not find any newbie friendly tutorial for jessie users |
| 23:28.57 | zrafa_ | squisher: cynicallemon very annoying for a simple user right= |
| 23:29.00 | zrafa_ | ? |
| 23:29.06 | squisher | yes |
| 23:29.11 | *** join/#debian icebourg (~icebourg@mobile-166-147-081-211.mycingular.net) |
| 23:29.13 | zrafa_ | squisher: cynicallemon (no gui for a just a really simple thing like time or date :P) |
| 23:29.28 | squisher | zrafa_, install ntp ;-) |
| 23:29.59 | squisher | RLW980, then can you now pastebin both 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' and the output of 'mount' |
| 23:30.05 | zrafa_ | squisher: well, my idea is different. I know all the details about date and time in a unix/linux debian system |
| 23:30.06 | *** join/#debian icebourg (~icebourg@mobile-166-147-081-211.mycingular.net) |
| 23:30.08 | cynicallemon | squisher: ntpdate is better for non-servers IHMO |
| 23:30.09 | zrafa_ | squisher: ntp, date, hwclock |
| 23:30.13 | zrafa_ | squisher: whatever |
| 23:30.24 | zrafa_ | squisher: but for our students, teachers, retired people |
| 23:30.47 | zrafa_ | squisher: I do not know tell them about commands or tools or scripts etc.. |
| 23:30.55 | *** join/#debian icebourg (~icebourg@mobile-166-147-081-211.mycingular.net) |
| 23:31.01 | zrafa_ | squisher: if they want to change to the time they want |
| 23:31.02 | cynicallemon | zrafa_: if you didnt have to visit the command line every so often it wouldnt be linux |
| 23:31.21 | squisher | zrafa_, feel free to contribute code to xfce. That's really what it boils down to, sorry. |
| 23:32.01 | RLW980 | squisher: [root@acer-aspire-5315 Ryan]# smartctl -a /dev/sda smartctl 6.2 2014-07-16 r3952 [x86_64-linux-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Hitachi Travelstar 5K250 Device Model: Hitachi HTS542580K9SA00 Serial Number: 080318BB2B00WFH5UR6A LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 52fd0bde5 Firmware Version: B |
| 23:32.08 | *** join/#debian codepython777 (~kp@c-69-244-213-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:32.17 | cynicallemon | zrafa_: i think gnome has a clock gui config so you could look at installing that but the reason i use xfce is to minimise the use of gnome |
| 23:32.18 | *** join/#debian glov (~marlon@41.85.8.91) |
| 23:32.23 | *** join/#debian bkraptor_ (~bkraptor@unaffiliated/bkraptor) |
| 23:32.44 | break19 | cynicallemon: funny, thats the same reason I use KDE :) |
| 23:32.57 | squisher | !tell RLW980 about pastebin |
| 23:33.00 | cynicallemon | break19: LOL |
| 23:33.10 | RLW980 | squisher: soz |
| 23:33.33 | teraflops | ^ |
| 23:33.48 | zrafa_ | cynicallemon: the same for us at uni. xfce to avoid gnome stuff |
| 23:34.05 | zrafa_ | break19: :) |
| 23:34.07 | RLW980 | squisher: http://paste.debian.net/115844/ |
| 23:34.10 | mtn | uses gnome to maximize the use of gnome stuff :P |
| 23:34.48 | cynicallemon | mtn: truly sad |
| 23:35.04 | mtn | cynicallemon: I feel for ya |
| 23:35.05 | *** join/#debian calisto1 (~calisto@r186-48-218-195.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 23:35.20 | cynicallemon | mtn: :) |
| 23:35.21 | mtn | I find the anti-gnome fud hilarious |
| 23:35.37 | teraflops | why do people hates so much gnome? |
| 23:35.56 | teraflops | use whatever respect the others |
| 23:36.05 | zrafa_ | teraflops: I like mate |
| 23:36.11 | zrafa_ | teraflops: that counts? :) |
| 23:36.30 | teraflops | i suppose so zrafa_ |
| 23:36.32 | squisher | RLW980, that looks good. You probably need to run an filesystem check. The complicated part is that you need to not be using the filesystem when you do that |
| 23:36.41 | *** join/#debian frangor (~frangor@unaffiliated/frangor) |
| 23:36.44 | teraflops | zrafa_: I use xmonad |
| 23:36.52 | cynicallemon | RLW980: agreed the disk looks oko |
| 23:36.59 | *** join/#debian btiefert (~btiefert@173-8-238-129-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 23:37.02 | squisher | RLW980, stupid me, actually, pastebin the output of "dmesg" |
| 23:37.10 | break19 | I don't -hate- gnome. I just don't want it on my system. And, just like systemd, pulseaudio, it's getting to the point where you have to conform or die. :( |
| 23:37.20 | RLW980 | CONFUSED |
| 23:37.49 | squisher | RLW980, just like you ran "smartctl" earlier, now run "dmesg" |
| 23:38.08 | cynicallemon | RLW980: as i said, download that iso image again, md5sum it and dd it |
| 23:39.27 | *** join/#debian Nyoom (Nyoom@unaffiliated/nyoom) |
| 23:39.37 | squisher | two different opinions ;-) if there's an FS problem, then the download may be corrupt again. But who knows, maybe it will work just fine if it was a more transient error |
| 23:39.42 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~tantarara@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 23:41.01 | RLW980 | squisher: http://paste.debian.net/115845/ |
| 23:41.46 | cynicallemon | squisher: yeah i would worry if i had a corrupt image after say 3 downloads |
| 23:42.03 | squisher | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 7033240 -- doesn't look that pretty to me |
| 23:42.30 | *** join/#debian bnc_savemech (Savemech@60e-008.static.bnc4free.com) |
| 23:43.30 | cynicallemon | squisher: then again... |
| 23:43.45 | cynicallemon | squisher: just saw that one too |
| 23:43.47 | squisher | RLW980, either do that cynicallemon suggests, or run 'smartctl -t short /dev/sda' wait a couple of minutes, and then run 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' again to see the result of the self test. IMHO chances are you're dealing with defective hardware |
| 23:44.18 | cynicallemon | RLW980: do as squisher suggests |
| 23:44.24 | RLW980 | squisher: OK |
| 23:44.26 | RLW980 | cynicallemon: OK |
| 23:44.45 | *** join/#debian codepython777 (~kp@c-69-244-213-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.52 | cynicallemon | squisher: can see 3 possible bad sectors there |
| 23:47.56 | RLW980 | squisher: done that |
| 23:48.55 | *** join/#debian TJ- (~TJ@jeeves.iam.tj) |
| 23:49.06 | squisher | RLW980, so what did smartctl -a say? did the test pass? |
| 23:49.26 | RLW980 | squisher: SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing |
| 23:49.47 | *** join/#debian Slumlord_ (~374123874@173-21-201-146.client.mchsi.com) |
| 23:49.58 | squisher | that doesn't look like it's done yet (see the Not_testing on every line?) |
| 23:50.08 | *** join/#debian SquirrelCZECH (~squirrel@ip-89-103-45-17.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 23:50.28 | squisher | RLW980, the line should look something like "# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 3300 -" |
| 23:51.11 | *** join/#debian sfmqur (~sam@108.178.197.179) |
| 23:51.37 | *** join/#debian CrypticSquared (~CrypticS_@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 23:51.46 | *** part/#debian sfmqur (~sam@108.178.197.179) |
| 23:52.00 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@65.sub-174-252-65.myvzw.com) |
| 23:54.30 | RLW980 | squisher: Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2314 - |
| 23:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1410] by debhelper |
| 23:56.09 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@65.sub-174-252-65.myvzw.com) |
| 23:56.25 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@65.sub-174-252-65.myvzw.com) |
| 23:56.29 | blast_hardcheese | Could someone please explain why aksnowman can't talk in here? I'm drawing a blank |
| 23:56.56 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (~washable@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 23:57.13 | *** join/#debian |oop (~loop@65.sub-174-252-65.myvzw.com) |
| 23:57.46 | *** join/#debian Overlordz (~Overlordz@50-46-176-46.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net) |
| 23:58.46 | RLW980 | squisher: is everything alright |
| 23:59.55 | cynicallemon | RLW980: "Completed without error" gives us a clue |
