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| 00:00.25 | Otyugh | It should. Still there would be to connect files and user accounts. |
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| 00:00.52 | Lady_Aleena | Let me reinstall task-kde-desktop and see if that fixes other things. |
| 00:00.56 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
| 00:01.18 | neilthereildeil | i am trying to create a netwrok bridge for my Xen VMs to share the wireless card on my laptop |
| 00:01.32 | tremon | neilthereildeil: you can stop there |
| 00:01.38 | neilthereildeil | ? |
| 00:01.54 | tremon | creating a network bridge over a wireless interface requires you to reconfigure your access point |
| 00:01.55 | Otyugh | (Lady_Aleena: you don't lose anything trying to install another mail client, though) |
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| 00:02.36 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, since reinstalling task-kde-desktop, autoremove returns "0 to remove". |
| 00:02.40 | neilthereildeil | tremon: ive dont this in virtualboxwith windows |
| 00:02.43 | neilthereildeil | done* |
| 00:02.50 | tremon | neilthereildeil: that's still possible of course. You need to figure out if your access point supports wds mode, enable it and then configure your wireless card for 4addr mode |
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| 00:02.54 | neilthereildeil | i havent had to reconfigure anything |
| 00:03.24 | neilthereildeil | tremon: if VirtualBox worked, wouldnt Xen and bridging here work? |
| 00:03.54 | tremon | neilthereildeil: I'm not sure what virtual box does, but the easier solution is to create a separate private (internal) network on your machine, and setup nat translation between your guests and the wireless |
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| 00:05.26 | tremon | but yes, if virtualbox already did a bridge instead of a natted private network, xen should be able to do the same. keyword is still 4addr mode |
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| 00:06.58 | blackjack | tremon what is 4addr mode anyway. does all wifi router support that? |
| 00:07.15 | Lady_Aleena | Otyugh, I am losing faith in mail clients in general. When I left Windows and Outlook for Debian with KDE and KMail, I lost my address book. |
| 00:07.44 | tremon | neilthereildeil: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/howto-bridge-wireless-and-wired-network-interfaces-369455/#post4410213 |
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| 00:08.12 | Lady_Aleena | It also took me hours to reorganize my email folders and rewrite all of the rules I created in Outlook. |
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| 00:09.10 | tremon | blackjack: I'm not sure which access point supports what. The gist of it is that the client's mac address is part of the layer2 communications channel, and if you're a bridge, you are the source interface for multiple mac addresses |
| 00:09.13 | Paradisee | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 00:09.13 | Paradisee | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 00:09.13 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: go disconnected |
| 00:09.17 | Paradisee | how to interrupt it? |
| 00:09.19 | neilthereildeil1 | got* |
| 00:09.45 | neilthereildeil1 | tremooni already set my nic in 4addr mode |
| 00:09.46 | tremon | blackjack: 4addr mode is what enables your wireless card to send and receive packets on behalf of other mac addresses |
| 00:10.06 | neilthereildeil1 | but now debian wiki says i need to rely on the WAP name |
| 00:10.10 | neilthereildeil1 | which is just ridiculous |
| 00:10.13 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: good. That isn't what got you disconnected, right? :) |
| 00:10.25 | neilthereildeil1 | no haha |
| 00:10.39 | neilthereildeil1 | i shouldnt have to know the WAP name in order to use a bridged VM on it |
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| 00:11.46 | tremon | No, that shouldn't be necessary |
| 00:13.51 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: ok. so i set 4addr mode |
| 00:14.05 | neilthereildeil1 | but that ebtables thing i mentioned doesnt look necessary |
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| 00:14.12 | blackjack | tremon, what are this 'other mac addresses' you mean, other devices like a tablet or an iphone? |
| 00:14.20 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: you still think 4addr is necessary? |
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| 00:15.15 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: now, you should be able to use bridge-utils (brctl) to create a network bridge (br0, br1), and brctl add your wireless interface and the xen interfaces to it |
| 00:15.38 | tremon | blackjack: the mac addresses of virtual machines running on his pc |
| 00:16.09 | blackjack | oh ok |
| 00:16.19 | blackjack | is he running his own vps? |
| 00:16.32 | tremon | blackjack: or more generally, the mac address of network devices connected to your machine through other links |
| 00:17.05 | blackjack | ahhh ok . got it |
| 00:17.13 | tremon | well you could ask neil himself :) he's running some xen guests, but I don't know for what purpose |
| 00:17.51 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: i already did that |
| 00:18.00 | neilthereildeil1 | but when i booted, i was getting some errors |
| 00:18.06 | neilthereildeil1 | how can i verify the bridge is working? |
| 00:18.51 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: if you can still access the network over wireless, it is working. Your own machine is part of that same bridge |
| 00:20.12 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: heres my etc/networks/interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/1ZFW8v48 |
| 00:20.20 | neilthereildeil1 | please let me know if u see anything wrong with it |
| 00:21.53 | tremon | looks fine. Have you seen https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Setting_up_your_Bridge ? |
| 00:22.31 | tremon | you can check with brctl show if your bridge is setup correctly |
| 00:22.45 | Lady_Aleena | goes afk to make dinner. |
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| 00:24.49 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: btw that page does list some ebtables tips for wireless bridging. Have never tried that though |
| 00:25.04 | neilthereildeil1 | yea thats what scared me away |
| 00:25.29 | neilthereildeil1 | i shouldnt need to know the name of the WAP to get this working |
| 00:25.31 | neilthereildeil1 | if i go to a coffee shop, this should be able to share wlan0, whatever network it happens to be connected to |
| 00:25.33 | tremon | it's essentially doing network address translation on layer2. Didn't know that was possible |
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| 00:27.09 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: do i need to install drivers in the gurst windows VM? |
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| 00:27.21 | neilthereildeil1 | or can Xen just used Qemu to virrtualize the NIC? |
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| 00:28.07 | rook2pawn | is there a way to use the 'date' command to show the time from a timezone of my preference? |
| 00:28.16 | rook2pawn | i dont quite understand the --date option on date |
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| 00:28.52 | tremon | it depends on the device emulation in xen, which I'm unfamiliar with. Best performance is usually with dedicated virtual devices and specialized drivers |
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| 00:29.22 | tremon | rook2pawn: TZ=UTC-1 date |
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| 00:32.31 | tremon | UTC-1 is a timezone indicator, in this case one hour before gmt. It understands all symbolic names and shifts, like EST+1 or CET-10 |
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| 00:34.40 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: ok so i modified my VM cfg to add the bridge, which i called xenbr0 |
| 00:34.53 | neilthereildeil1 | and the VM sees the new device |
| 00:35.02 | neilthereildeil1 | but it doesnt see the actual network |
| 00:35.10 | neilthereildeil1 | it self assiged 169.254.... |
| 00:35.31 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: how can i make it see my physical wireless network? |
| 00:36.21 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: it will not identify it as a wireless network, but it should just be able to do dhcp requests on it |
| 00:36.37 | tremon | I think you need to wiretrace to find what's wrong |
| 00:36.44 | tremon | e.g. tcpdump or wireshark |
| 00:36.49 | neilthereildeil1 | yea im expecting to see it as an eth network in the windows guest, but it doesnt even see a network |
| 00:37.00 | neilthereildeil1 | i know that its not seeing the network |
| 00:37.10 | neilthereildeil1 | thats why its self assigning 169.254.*.* |
| 00:37.30 | neilthereildeil1 | how can i debug the bridge (maybe from the host?) to make sure its working? |
| 00:37.39 | neilthereildeil1 | maybe some config on the host? |
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| 00:38.57 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: you could assign a static network address to one of your vm's, and ping it from the host. And ping your access point from the host |
| 00:39.09 | memeka_ | I get Update UTMP about System Reboot/Shutdown on boot |
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| 00:39.15 | memeka_ | and / is mounted r/o |
| 00:39.23 | memeka_ | any idea why this happens ? |
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| 00:40.03 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: so i cant ping the 169.254 guest address from the host either |
| 00:40.20 | neilthereildeil1 | the bridge is somehow disconnected |
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| 00:40.44 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: that's expected, you don't have a route to the 169.254 network probably |
| 00:41.18 | anoob | while booting, my debian suddenly halt by itself ... |
| 00:41.48 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: wow! i have a lot of devices that now show up in ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/KZAhRcZn |
| 00:41.55 | anoob | debian sid ... it happened after installing mate-desktop and mate=session-manager |
| 00:42.53 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: whats this vif* and the second xenbr0? |
| 00:43.06 | neilthereildeil1 | i only expected 1 new interface which is the xenbr0 iface |
| 00:43.09 | neilthereildeil1 | the bridge |
| 00:43.25 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: looks like the vif interfaces are from xen. I'm unsure what avahi is doing with the bridge |
| 00:44.18 | neilthereildeil1 | is this a wrong config then? |
| 00:44.37 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: but from that output, it looks like wlan0 is not part of your bridge |
| 00:44.48 | neilthereildeil1 | hmmm |
| 00:44.55 | neilthereildeil1 | u saw my interface file, right? |
| 00:45.03 | neilthereildeil1 | i added it in there |
| 00:45.07 | tremon | I would have expected the RX/TX counters from the bridge to be at least as high as those from wlan0 |
| 00:45.08 | neilthereildeil1 | unless thats wrong? |
| 00:45.47 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: you said that you got errors during boot. I haven't seen those errors, nor the output of brctl show to tell you if anything's wrong |
| 00:46.37 | neilthereildeil1 | tremon: http://pastebin.com/nnvFqUet |
| 00:47.01 | neilthereildeil1 | isnt xenbr0 itself the name of the interface? why does that output say its vif2.0? |
| 00:47.14 | neilthereildeil1 | i was expecting xenbr0 to be on its own line.. |
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| 00:48.28 | tremon | neilthereildeil1: you have one bridge named xenbr0, which contains two interfaces vif2.0 and vif2.0-emu. wlan0 is not part of that interface, which is why your guests have no network |
| 00:49.07 | tremon | try brctl xenbr0 add wlan0 (iirc, check the man page) and look for any error |
| 00:49.13 | memeka_ | systemd[1]: Failed to initialize automounter: No such file or directory |
| 00:49.21 | memeka_ | what do I need to install for the automounter?? |
| 00:50.39 | niez | memeka_, ubuntu |
| 00:50.49 | memeka_ | niez: debian jessie |
| 00:50.58 | memeka_ | lol :) |
| 00:51.03 | memeka_ | why do i get that error? |
| 00:51.58 | memeka_ | Failed to open /dev/autofs: No such file or directory |
| 00:53.34 | niez | memeka_, unsuccessful upgrade? missing kernel modules? ... i don't know |
| 00:53.45 | memeka_ | niez: fresh debootstrap |
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| 00:54.08 | memeka_ | but i just copied my kernel and /modules from older wheezy |
| 00:54.31 | memeka_ | i don't have /dev/autofs ... is it a kernel thing or do i need some package ? |
| 00:54.56 | memeka_ | right ... kernel |
| 00:55.11 | memeka_ | can i disable that autofs feature ? |
| 00:55.48 | memeka_ | # CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set |
| 00:56.59 | niez | memeka_, in your host kernel, or in older wheezy? |
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| 00:57.06 | memeka_ | both |
| 00:57.19 | memeka_ | I don't have autofs module ... so systemd complains |
| 00:57.29 | memeka_ | can i disable it from systemd ? |
| 00:58.16 | niez | can't help, don't know |
| 00:58.40 | memeka_ | k niez... i'll just recompile kernel with that option |
| 00:58.42 | memeka_ | what's a man to do |
| 00:59.02 | niez | memeka_, I would do just that |
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| 00:59.24 | caermin | jelly-home: https://www.debian.org/News/2014/20140719 :( |
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| 01:18.46 | bsdator | http://paste.debian.net/117175/ ,how to fix this? |
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| 01:25.42 | wubic | How do i trigger it to send a mail on a single rule and event? |
| 01:27.17 | neilthereildeil | tremon: how can i persist the changes to 4addr mode? |
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| 01:35.06 | neilthereildeil | guys, how can i persist "iw dev wlan0 set 4addr on" |
| 01:35.07 | neilthereildeil | ? |
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| 01:51.16 | xylox | tables, adding 'exec startxfce4' to .xinitrc |
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| 01:54.14 | blackjack | hello excuse me |
| 01:54.33 | blackjack | my server suddenly rebooted, when im not expecting a reboot |
| 01:55.04 | blackjack | how do i investigate on the problem as to why it did reboot? |
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| 01:58.29 | xylox | blackjack, there're many possible reasons, but a good start is a memory check |
| 01:58.38 | blackjack | ok |
| 01:58.53 | blackjack | xylox,. the weird thing is. my screen is still working after i logged back |
| 01:59.55 | blackjack | its an ssh tunnel that i did. so for use for my browsing |
| 02:00.03 | blackjack | ssh tunnel to my vps |
| 02:00.13 | blackjack | but when i opened my browser. its still working |
| 02:00.23 | blackjack | i was expecting it will not gonna connect |
| 02:01.07 | blackjack | <xylox> blackjack, there're many possible reasons, but a good start is a memory check <== how do i do this? On the LIVE session? |
| 02:01.58 | xylox | blackjack, i usually use some live cds like systemrescuecd |
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| 02:02.55 | blackjack | xylox, and if a pass all the test. what would be the second issue to suspect? |
| 02:03.32 | xylox | it happened just once or more times? |
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| 02:07.36 | blackjack | just once |
| 02:07.37 | blackjack | now |
| 02:07.46 | blackjack | been up for like a week already |
| 02:07.50 | blackjack | sometimes 4 days straight |
| 02:07.53 | blackjack | or 5 |
| 02:08.17 | blackjack | i only reboot when i go out and be out like 5 hours. |
| 02:08.21 | blackjack | i mean, shutdown |
| 02:08.27 | blackjack | and i seldom do reboots |
| 02:08.32 | blackjack | but this time. while chatting |
| 02:08.51 | blackjack | while connecting to another session of irc. it suddenly rebooted |
| 02:09.11 | xylox | maybe a voltage updown, i'd wait if it repeats |
| 02:09.24 | blackjack | is there some logs as to when i rebooted maybe theres a reason as to why? |
| 02:09.41 | blackjack | no its not a voltage updown |
| 02:09.46 | blackjack | im sure of that |
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| 02:10.39 | xylox | debian-stable? |
| 02:10.52 | blackjack | yes |
| 02:11.09 | xylox | full up to date? |
| 02:11.14 | blackjack | yup |
| 02:11.34 | blackjack | just done apt-get update and upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 02:12.16 | mhoney | run a ram test |
| 02:12.25 | blackjack | xylox: i just wanted to ask, where do i verify the system logs, when it reboots and reason as to why? etc? |
| 02:12.50 | blackjack | mhoney: how? can i run a Memory test while still being logged in here and chatting with you guys? |
| 02:13.03 | mhoney | on a reboot like you describe, I doubt there is any time to write to a log |
| 02:13.14 | blackjack | also mhoney, my question is, why is my screen session still on? |
| 02:13.16 | mhoney | blackjack, you cant |
| 02:13.32 | blackjack | is it automatically turned on when rebooted? |
| 02:13.49 | mhoney | not likely |
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| 02:14.06 | blackjack | thats weird. its still on my ps ux list |
| 02:14.14 | blackjack | but i did not manually run it |
| 02:14.19 | blackjack | it just is there automatically |
| 02:14.21 | blackjack | hmmmm |
| 02:14.43 | blackjack | but ofcoourse other programs like my browser opened and xchat was needed to be loaded again |
| 02:14.47 | blackjack | after reboot |
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| 02:16.28 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
| 02:16.53 | neilthereildeil | how can i get "iw dev wlan0 set 4addr on" automatically on boot? |
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| 02:24.07 | neilthereildeil | anyone here know how to do this? |
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| 02:27.25 | centrx | neilthereildeil, You can always add a script to /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to add it to your startup |
| 02:27.36 | centrx | neilthereildeil, But there is probably a standard appropriate way with networking |
| 02:27.48 | centrx | neilthereildeil, e.g. adding the appropriate configuration to /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 02:28.29 | neo-laptop | i have a non working SD card reader. looking for info on getting it to work. RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader |
| 02:29.46 | pfsense_rookie | neo-laptop, have you tried adding the non-free repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list and installing firmware-realtek? |
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| 02:31.03 | pfsense_rookie | neo-laptop, my mistake I think that one is limited to wireless devices. Maybe there is one for such a device, have you had a look at the non-free repository? |
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| 02:31.41 | neo-laptop | pfsense_rookie: i have not looked in the non-free repo. what would be the best way to look? via synaptic? |
| 02:31.42 | neilthereildeil | centrx: does the interfaces file allow commands, or just configuration? |
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| 02:32.30 | centrx | neilthereildeil, iw commands have corresponding configuration values, so your command looks a little like what would go in the interfaces file |
| 02:32.56 | neo-laptop | i just looked, firmware-realtek is already installed |
| 02:34.09 | pfsense_rookie | neo-laptop, I am not sure about synaptic. |
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| 02:34.28 | neo-laptop | ah. i just found a driver from realtek and downloaded it. ill have a look at the readme file |
| 02:34.53 | pfsense_rookie | neo-laptop, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2059763&highlight=l530%20sd%20card/%22Lenovo%20ThinkPad%20E/L530%3a%20Realtek%20SD%20card%20reader%20not%20working%22 also possible solutions. It's on Ubuntu forums but implies compilation from source. |
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| 02:35.45 | neo-laptop | awesome, thanks pfsense_rookie :) |
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| 02:40.21 | neilthereildeil | thanks |
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| 02:44.21 | neo-laptop | pfsense_rookie that did the trick - card reader is working. thank you again |
| 02:45.47 | pfsense_rookie | neo-laptop, fantastic. |
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| 03:03.27 | fattratt | Hello. I've had a bit of a problem getting debian squeeze to boot recently. I think something in a recent security update disagrees with my system. I get as far as 'waiting for /dev to be populated...' and then an error msg flashes briefly before my eyes before the screen goes blank. |
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| 03:04.03 | opposition | try restoring from backup |
| 03:04.07 | fattratt | I've got my system up again using slackware, but I would like to go back to debian soon. |
| 03:04.34 | opposition | can anyone advice a decent laptop that runs debian problemless |
| 03:04.44 | pfsense_rookie | fattratt, you'll have to get to the logs in the Debian system. Is that still possible? |
| 03:04.48 | fattratt | Thanks, opposition. Maybe I should back up my system more often. |
| 03:05.14 | fattratt | I've overwritten them. The problem is replicable though, with some effort. |
| 03:05.24 | opposition | with the option to attach a regular keyboard and mouse and external harddrive |
| 03:05.53 | fattratt | I'm not really trying to analyse the problem too deeply at the moment. |
| 03:06.18 | fattratt | Perhaps I should try moving to wheezy? |
| 03:06.31 | opposition | no squeeze gotta work too |
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| 03:06.46 | pfsense_rookie | fattratt, I have had something similar happen to me, but that symptom has a lot of causes. In my situation it was the proprietary drivers for the AMD card going on a tantrum. |
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| 03:07.07 | fattratt | Thanks, pfsense_rookie |
| 03:07.15 | sysclone | hi people |
| 03:07.25 | fattratt | I'm glad I'm not alone in having problems occasionally. |
| 03:07.43 | opposition | same here fattratt |
| 03:08.08 | opposition | the recent squeeze upgrade seems to be broken |
| 03:08.15 | fattratt | Maybe I'll try making the problem happen again, and have a look at the logs. |
| 03:08.37 | fattratt | Thanks, opposition. That was the impression I was getting. |
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| 03:08.44 | pfsense_rookie | fattratt, I can count tens of reinstalls while I was trying to figure out this AMD/Intel hybrid thing. It was just that bad and badly documented. |
| 03:09.15 | fattratt | Where under /var/log should I look first? |
| 03:09.19 | opposition | the recent squeeze upgrade really trashed my video card |
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| 03:10.06 | swulf-- | Is it possible to install debian from CD using a specific mirror? I'd like to install from a testing snapshot (snapshot.debian.org/..). How do I do this? |
| 03:10.32 | opposition | im gonna run linux on a laptop but where do they sell laptops at a decent price that support linux ? |
| 03:10.36 | pfsense_rookie | fattratt, syslog I would say, but I have not had much diversity in critical errors like the one I mentioned. |
| 03:11.43 | opposition | you would not know where they sell linux laptops at an affordable price fattratt ? |
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| 03:12.24 | pfsense_rookie | opposition, as Debian experts usually recommend, stay of devices that require a lot of proprietary software (specially the newer hardware, since Debian takes a bit to keep up). I would say the thing you have to worry the most is related to graphics. |
| 03:12.47 | opposition | im prepared tho pfsense_rookie |
| 03:13.24 | opposition | i upgraded, took a look at the mess at my screen and restored from backup |
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| 03:15.00 | opposition | i can spare the extra keypress |
| 03:16.55 | pfsense_rookie | opposition, it's about sparing your hardware as well. By default, my laptop was running at 90ºC while idling. The battery is now only up to 70% of it's full potential according to Power Statistics. I have also noticed this change. |
| 03:17.37 | opposition | nice :) you can fry an egg on that |
| 03:17.58 | pfsense_rookie | opposition, some hardware is specially built for Windows. |
| 03:18.15 | opposition | yea i gotta have a laptop that is supported by linux |
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| 03:19.08 | cynicallemon | opposition: id stay clear of amd processors on laptops IMHO |
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| 03:19.33 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
| 03:19.41 | opposition | im sure there are laptops that run debian problemless |
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| 03:19.44 | neilthereildeil | im still trying to get the automatic bridge working on boot |
| 03:19.48 | neilthereildeil | its not working though :( |
| 03:20.09 | cynicallemon | im on a thinkpad edge e520 here, running debian sid |
| 03:20.30 | opposition | you got issues on that cynicallemon ? |
| 03:20.36 | neilthereildeil | im trynna add "iw dev wlan0 set 4addr on" to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:20.47 | neilthereildeil | as well as "brctl addif xenbr0 wlan0" |
| 03:20.57 | neilthereildeil | but it get issues trying to start/stop the networking serice |
| 03:21.02 | neilthereildeil | service |
| 03:21.22 | cynicallemon | opposition: no, lenovo are pretty good with linux in general |
| 03:21.36 | pfsense_rookie | neilthereildeil, did you ever try the Init script way? |
| 03:21.39 | opposition | is that a trademark 'lenovo' ? |
| 03:21.58 | karlpinc | opposition: In my (very limited) experience the problem is with network cards. I gave up and tether to my cell, using it's wireless. |
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| 03:22.22 | karlpinc | opposition: Atheros wireless chips always work, so I hear. |
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| 03:26.00 | okee | Does anyone know if Keepass 2.05 Alpha is in the testing branch? I hear it works decently, even though it is alpha. |
| 03:26.49 | opposition | where are the techies at ? |
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| 03:28.34 | cynicallemon | okee: keepass is 2.27 in testing |
| 03:30.04 | okee | cynicallemon> There is a separate development team working on KeepassX, which is native to Mac/Linux. Keepass2 works better than KeepassX version .047, but supposedly KeepassX 2.0Alpha is much better. |
| 03:30.28 | okee | Keepass2 runs in emulation mode, but I use it all time. |
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| 03:34.53 | okee | cynicallemon> Has anyone tried Keepass2.27? How is it? Any dependency problems? |
| 03:35.29 | opposition | is that spelled kee-pass or keep-ass ? |
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| 03:36.03 | okee | Keepass2 Version .043 is no longer functional with Chromium/Google Chrome/Midori? The problem is that the Ctrl V command won't paste, and you have to paste it into Leafpad, and then copy leafpad into your input box. |
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| 03:37.11 | okee | How come I can't joint #debian-next??? Censorship !!! |
| 03:37.38 | opposition | yup |
| 03:39.29 | opposition | they re elitists okee |
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| 03:40.23 | cynicallemon | opposition: well considering what it does then keep-ass seems more on the mark |
| 03:40.28 | okee | opposition> So who on here can give me an invitation??? |
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| 03:41.03 | opposition | if they dont know in this channel they dont know in #debian-next |
| 03:42.11 | okee | Well I have started my own channel called ##debian-next, so now we have the real debian-next |
| 03:42.24 | cynicallemon | lol |
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| 03:43.05 | cynicallemon | sid users need #debian-next-next |
| 03:43.27 | opposition | what is debian-next about ? |
| 03:43.36 | Penix | opposition: support for branches other than stable |
| 03:43.42 | Penix | and is on oftc, not freenode |
| 03:44.08 | opposition | then its funny its invite-only |
| 03:44.32 | pfsense_rookie | what does this "oftc" stand for? I was wondering about it earlier. |
| 03:44.46 | Penix | pfsense_rookie: go to their website |
| 03:45.00 | Penix | opposition: because it's not on this network. nobody is meant to join it |
| 03:45.28 | pfsense_rookie | Thank you, Penix. |
| 03:45.55 | opposition | this channel supports all branches of debian unless they changed that too |
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| 03:47.06 | Penix | opposition: general support is given here, but it's always been the case that using sid means you'll get less sympathy |
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| 03:47.37 | Penix | stable works. if something if broken with your stable installation, we can probably help. not so much with unstable |
| 03:47.41 | Penix | s/if/is/ |
| 03:48.02 | opposition | thats not my experience however |
| 03:48.39 | Penix | of course there are people who can help with your sid problems, but it's harder to know what's installed or configured on your particular sid box, compared to a stable system |
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| 04:29.42 | scythe- | hi, i'm trying to install on a macbook |
| 04:29.52 | scythe- | so i will probably need nonfree firmware |
| 04:29.54 | scythe- | cf https://bugs.debian.org/725714 |
| 04:30.19 | avshalom | which macbook model? |
| 04:30.26 | scythe- | assuming i can use ethernet during the installation, will i be able to figure out and install the required firmware? |
| 04:31.04 | scythe- | early 2011 13-inch mbp |
| 04:31.16 | avshalom | i have one of those, running jessie |
| 04:31.33 | avshalom | yes, ethernet install, then you can install broadcom proprietary should you need it |
| 04:31.37 | scythe- | ^,^ that's what i was trying to do |
| 04:31.56 | avshalom | i actually installed wheezy first, then updated to jessie |
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| 04:32.07 | avshalom | there was something screwy with the alpha/beta installers |
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| 04:32.28 | scythe- | i guess that's pretty easy then |
| 04:32.37 | scythe- | so perhaps i'll try it |
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| 04:33.01 | scythe- | also i'm strongly considering dropping os x entirely |
| 04:33.10 | avshalom | yup, i have it on macbook (white) with no proprietary drivers, mbp 13, and a macbook air 11 inch, which needed an ethernet dongle |
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| 04:33.27 | avshalom | scythe-: i dropped os x entirely recently for debian / openbsd |
| 04:33.46 | scythe- | but i can't remember where to read about os x bootloader stuff. i have refind on this laptop but i haven't messed with it in a while |
| 04:33.51 | avshalom | scythe: you will probably need to figure |
| 04:33.53 | avshalom | yes. |
| 04:33.56 | scythe- | does wifi work on bsd? |
| 04:34.05 | avshalom | refind has a debian dpkg |
| 04:34.52 | avshalom | you can go to stackexchange, there is a small modification that you have to do to get the refind working right. otherwise, you need a usb thumbdrive to get it started |
| 04:35.49 | scythe- | hm, okay. |
| 04:36.10 | avshalom | it's a little painful, but confirms your anger at apple's proprietary bs |
| 04:36.21 | cynicallemon | scythe-: wifi works on freebsd from install time usually |
| 04:36.21 | scythe- | :p yeah |
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| 04:37.47 | cynicallemon | avshalom: debian and openbsd rock |
| 04:38.01 | scythe- | i'll read about refind. i think my version is pretty old but maybe it doesn't need to be updated. |
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| 04:38.21 | scythe- | i know i have it installed already i've just forgotten how to use it |
| 04:38.26 | avshalom | yeah, whatever gets it to boot |
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| 04:39.54 | avshalom | what distinguishes debian from openbsd is the easy upgrades |
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| 04:40.07 | avshalom | (i mean, amongst a million things, but for me) |
| 04:44.43 | cynicallemon | debian is easier for everyday maintenance for sure |
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| 05:30.05 | blackjack | hello. is it possible that my screen session is still there even i rebooted abnormally? |
| 05:30.17 | blackjack | or is it possible that only the openbux crashed |
| 05:30.30 | blackjack | coz it kinda reboot and it prompt me the login |
| 05:30.50 | blackjack | but the funny thing is my ssh tunnel which is on screen session on my terminal. was still online |
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| 05:31.14 | blackjack | is it possible?? |
| 05:31.33 | ompaul | what does screen -r tell you |
| 05:31.57 | blackjack | its still online |
| 05:32.04 | ompaul | what is |
| 05:32.10 | blackjack | its only a tunnel. so its just goes blank |
| 05:32.12 | blackjack | nothing |
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| 05:32.23 | blackjack | i use it for my browser |
| 05:32.28 | ompaul | what does screen -r tell you on the machine where you ran the screen session? |
| 05:32.33 | ompaul | one thing at a time |
| 05:33.01 | blackjack | none |
| 05:33.10 | blackjack | it just goes back to my ssh tunnel |
| 05:33.17 | ompaul | it does die on reboot |
| 05:33.25 | blackjack | weird. |
| 05:33.29 | ompaul | ssh can survive reboots |
| 05:33.43 | blackjack | now im thinking. there is something that did not reboot |
| 05:33.48 | ompaul | that I've seen |
| 05:33.54 | blackjack | is it possilbe that it did not reboot. but it still let me relogin? |
| 05:33.56 | ompaul | no a reboot is a reboot |
| 05:33.57 | blackjack | on my account |
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| 05:34.04 | Penix | blackjack: your X session probably died |
| 05:34.09 | Penix | that != reboot |
| 05:34.28 | blackjack | Penix: if my x session died. does it look like a reboot, i saw a text coming |
| 05:34.30 | blackjack | small text |
| 05:34.38 | blackjack | then it showed me the prompt again |
| 05:34.40 | blackjack | login prompt |
| 05:34.50 | blackjack | Penix: how could i verify if my Xsession abornamlly died? |
| 05:35.01 | ompaul | ps awux | grep X |
| 05:35.04 | ompaul | is X running |
| 05:35.12 | blackjack | right now it is |
| 05:35.30 | blackjack | that event happenned 2 hours ago. and athen i tried to memtest |
| 05:35.32 | ompaul | for your ssh session that seems to be hanging in deep space 9 |
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| 05:35.41 | blackjack | just to find out if i have faulty memory. but i passed it all after 2 hours |
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| 05:35.44 | ompaul | kill -9 the process |
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| 05:36.16 | blackjack | why? |
| 05:36.24 | blackjack | theres a use for it. its my ssh tunnel |
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| 05:36.52 | blackjack | i just wanted to ask if my x session died, how do i confirm it? |
| 05:36.58 | blackjack | cos it really seems not a reboot |
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| 05:38.30 | memeka | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:08.18 | Roenie | so i've setup samba, nfs, rsync, and set the best MTU for my NICs |
| 06:08.23 | Roenie | and it only took me all day and night |
| 06:09.44 | Roenie | ah yes also configured the network interfaces and got rid of an eth0 becoming eth1 issue |
| 06:10.02 | Roenie | and a not getting a gbit link issue |
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| 06:17.46 | ZitZ | I'm attempting to send email with exim to a remote host on my LAN, how do I do this? |
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| 06:54.48 | karlpinc | ZitZ: aptitude install bsd-mailx ; man mailx ?? |
| 06:55.22 | karlpinc | Roenie: Probably want to install ntp as well. |
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| 06:56.05 | karlpinc | Roenie: (Especially with samba. Kerberos gets cranky when the time skews.) |
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| 07:04.32 | ZitZ | mail tells me that mail for remote domains is not supported. |
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| 07:05.23 | jarray52 | I timed it. 'sudo ls' takes 25 seconds. And 'ls' returns almost instantly. What could cause this? |
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| 07:06.33 | ZitZ | excuse me, my bad, it says unroutable address |
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| 07:06.58 | r4co0n | Hello. I am running jessie with the standard desktop-task selected. With Brasero, the CD burning program, I want to verify a DVD I burnt. Brasero->Tools->Check Integrity->Select md5 file that was generated with "md5sum /home/r4co0n/Downloads/image.iso > /home/r4co0n/Downloads/image.md5" and my DVD-drive, containing the burned DVD. At my place Brasero immediately finishes the verification, tells me everything is fine, but the CD did not even spin up. |
| 07:06.58 | r4co0n | I think Brasero is lying.. Can someone confirm this behaviour, so I can file a bug, or, better, tell me where I went wrong? |
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| 07:09.26 | r4co0n | The CD was burnt on the same system with Brasero, too.. |
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| 07:10.54 | r4co0n | It is a live Linux that does indeed boot, but not run as expected/documented, so I want to rule out an erroneous CD. |
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| 07:30.30 | Psil0Cybin | what is a basic good calculator program for xfce? |
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| 07:35.48 | r4co0n | Psil0Cybin, galculator? It is not basic, but.. https://screenshots.debian.net/package/galculator |
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| 07:42.12 | Psil0Cybin | ty |
| 07:42.14 | Psil0Cybin | :D |
| 07:43.35 | r4co0n | Psil0Cybin, maybe try with "apt-cache search calculator" next time first. You're welcome. |
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| 07:49.04 | ln_ | is there any reason why I shouldn't make the swap parition a logical volume in lvm? |
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| 07:50.49 | ln_ | and also when I use grub2 I can also have the boot partition on lvm and it doesn't need to be ext2 right? |
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| 07:59.52 | r4co0n | ln_, /boot on LVM with any GRUB2-supported filesystem seems right. I haven't tested it though. A separate swap partition may be useful if you want to mount it from multiple installations, without accessing the other distros lvm, which may be compiled with another featureset or newer. |
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| 08:00.54 | ln_ | r4co0n, right I haven't thought about sharing the swap thats a valid point ty |
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| 08:37.42 | L4DD2 | Hello. Question: If I install Linux on UEFI mode (encrypted with LUKS/LVM). Do I need only an unencrypted EFI-partition or do I need an unencrypted EFI-partition and /boot-partition? |
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| 08:53.25 | freebsd | à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡ à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡ à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à ¹‡à |
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| 08:56.05 | Klept | Hi, I'm on Windows 7 (64bits) and I want to create a bootable USB with a Debian based distrib on it (kali). How do I make my USB bootable? |
| 08:57.13 | tremon | L4DD2: only unencrypted efi is enough, although it depends on how you configure it. You can include the image+initrd on the efi partition, but the default grub-efi setup only includes the extN driver and tries to read the kernel from /boot |
| 08:57.47 | cynicallemon | Klept: in a word, windiskimager |
| 08:59.44 | cynicallemon | Klept: win32diskimager to be more precise |
| 09:00.17 | Klept | cynicallemon thank you, trying it right now |
| 09:01.31 | Klept | cynicallemon Apparently it only takes *.img as input file. Mine is iso. |
| 09:04.03 | cynicallemon | Klept: ah hang on |
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| 09:04.11 | Klept | cynicallemon Ok, I figured out what was wrong. Thank you man! |
| 09:04.35 | Klept | cynicallemon It was still mounted in my daemon tool. I'm so stupid. |
| 09:04.44 | cynicallemon | Klept: yeah i thought it did img and iso |
| 09:04.50 | cynicallemon | :) |
| 09:05.54 | SquirrelCZECH | well |
| 09:06.00 | SquirrelCZECH | is it possible to setup sane nfs mount? |
| 09:06.18 | SquirrelCZECH | I mean, things like autoreconnect and some ways to handle files that appears on that place without proper folder mounted ? |
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| 09:22.08 | marvin-hh | Based on what documenation is apt-get remove allowed to *install* packages? |
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| 09:24.10 | marvin-hh | documentation* |
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| 09:25.19 | chickensk | hi. i have apple wired keyboard, and would like to use F keys as standard. so i found command "echo 2 > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode" which work, but i have to run it every time i start my computer and from root terminal. is there any way to add this command to startup script which i have and working for other things ? |
| 09:25.38 | cynicallemon | marvin-hh: i thought it was in the bible but i could be wrong |
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| 09:27.43 | marvin-hh | cynicallemon: I read the Bible, but it was not there. |
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| 09:28.10 | cynicallemon | marvin-hh: damn it, i thought as much |
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| 09:31.47 | marvin-hh | cynicallemon: the Bible does contain about the same amount of lies as man apt-get, however. |
| 09:32.00 | cynicallemon | lol |
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| 10:14.41 | mintgreen | here is the last lines of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1' , http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this? |
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| 11:12.56 | Bluewolf | How do I install wine in debian? |
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| 11:14.13 | AimHere | Blue1, same way you install any other package |
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| 11:14.49 | ompaul | !wine |
| 11:14.50 | dpkg | Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . http://wiki.winehq.org/HowTo http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>. |
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| 11:22.28 | zoidberg- | Hey anyone good with ip route/ iptables here, i have a very strange issue that i cannot seem to resolve :( |
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| 11:25.38 | ompaul | zoidberg-: you know the rules, write down the problem giving as much relevant information as you can - prepare route ; iptables.saved and other data in paste.debian.net explain it all as well as you can, in the mean time short cuts - ping from a to b ping checking mtu tracepath target tracepath other target arp data; ping -b |
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| 11:26.04 | jmd | zoidberg-: You might have better luck asking on ##linux |
| 11:26.14 | milezteg | Q: I'm running stable wheezy 7.5 on a production web server hosting some e-commerce websites. I definitely want the machine to be as secure as possible but am unsure what sources to include for updates. I am wondering if most of you add both the security and backports sources for updates on production servers like mine? |
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| 11:26.44 | zoidberg- | I have tried the relevant channels #netfilter/#iptables/#openvpn but no one can help it seems, so i asked here incase someone didn't like me asking. I will create a pastebin with all neccesssary information now, thank you guys. |
| 11:26.57 | ompaul | milezteg: leave backports out - check your compliance with PCI starndards and good luck with that |
| 11:27.29 | ompaul | zoidberg-: openvpn in the mix it usually does things you don't know about to routing check it is right too |
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| 11:27.32 | milezteg | ompaul: yesh I gave up on that a while ago. It always triggers something fixed in backports |
| 11:28.23 | jmd | backports and security, don't go together. |
| 11:29.08 | ompaul | milezteg: logging in behind port knocking - reduce ciphers and keep that damned rc4 off your box and the weaker ones this is all documented out there |
| 11:29.12 | zoidberg- | ompaul: i know where the problem lies to some extent its just fixing it that im struggling with. |
| 11:29.15 | zoidberg- | here we go: http://codepad.org/KLhhtnWR |
| 11:30.08 | zoidberg- | ompaul: The problem i have is, i have a raspbery pi connected to my bt home hub on eth1 and on eth2 i have it conencted to a linksys router (that proides my lan). on the raspberry pi it has a vpn server for incomming connections to the network (so i can hit my lan externall) i also have a vpn tunnel routing lan traffic out over the vpn |
| 11:30.24 | zoidberg- | it all works apart from when a client connects in i see a lot of those MULTi source address errors on the server side |
| 11:30.27 | zoidberg- | yet everything appears to work |
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| 11:31.28 | zoidberg- | Someone from openvpn said it had to do with the fact i was doing fwmark and not ctmark |
| 11:31.35 | zoidberg- | i've been reading about ctmark but am so confused by it |
| 11:31.37 | ompaul | zoidberg-: your server - is it being port forwarded |
| 11:31.46 | ompaul | from firewall |
| 11:31.52 | zoidberg- | yes |
| 11:31.55 | zoidberg- | so |
| 11:31.59 | zoidberg- | this is how it works if you connect to my vpn |
| 11:32.05 | zoidberg- | -> bt home hub -> raspberry pi |
| 11:32.12 | zoidberg- | bt home hub forwards 1194 to pi |
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| 11:32.27 | zoidberg- | a dude over on vpn said this: Use CONNMARK instead of MARK on mangle/PREROUTING to identify the source interface, then restore it in mangle/POSTROUTING with `-j CNNMARK --restore-mark` (which takes a mask, if you |
| 11:32.31 | zoidberg- | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.37 | zoidberg- | but i dont fully understand all of that |
| 11:32.46 | ompaul | zoidberg-: your server side is not accepting pings is that correct? |
| 11:32.58 | zoidberg- | no no, it all works pings work everything |
| 11:33.08 | zoidberg- | look at the pastebin, the first log is openvpn these issues are concerning me and the problem: |
| 11:33.09 | ompaul | zoidberg-: it isn't taking pings now |
| 11:33.14 | ompaul | I just pinged it |
| 11:33.15 | zoidberg- | RwRwrWRSun Aug 24 00:28:02 2014 us=698536 testclient/94.23.170.2:58612 MULTI: bad source address from client [94.23.170.2], packet dropped |
| 11:33.20 | zoidberg- | oh |
| 11:33.23 | ompaul | that's the client is it now |
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| 11:33.32 | ompaul | the server is the 83 |
| 11:33.37 | zoidberg- | yes |
| 11:33.40 | ompaul | 81 |
| 11:33.42 | ompaul | . whatever |
| 11:34.08 | zoidberg- | ompaul: just pm'ed you a dns address for the external vpn point |
| 11:34.12 | zoidberg- | so you can test with that if you want |
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| 11:34.55 | zoidberg- | ompaul: i just tested with a client (it uses udp 1194 btw) i can connect in and establish a connection fine |
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| 11:35.21 | zoidberg- | tun0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 inet addr:192.168.88.10 P-t-P:192.168.88.9 Mask:255.255.255.255 |
| 11:35.24 | zoidberg- | thats on the client |
| 11:35.25 | zoidberg- | vpn works |
| 11:35.31 | zoidberg- | its just those source address errors |
| 11:35.41 | zoidberg- | MULTI: bad source address from client [94.23.170.2], packet dropped <-- it shouldb't be the clients extenral ip |
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| 11:36.30 | ompaul | These errors occur because OpenVPN doesn't have an internal route for 192.168.100.249. Consequently, it doesn't know how to route the packet to this machine, so it drops the packet. |
| 11:36.32 | ompaul | Use client-config-dir and create a ccd file for your client containing the iroute option to tell OpenVPN that the 192.168.100.0/24 network is available behind this client. |
| 11:37.05 | ompaul | zoidberg-: ^^ that is the starting point - you need to have your 10. up first |
| 11:37.11 | ompaul | then you can push a to b |
| 11:37.24 | ompaul | in your case 172 |
| 11:37.49 | zoidberg- | ok this is sounding more like it |
| 11:38.04 | zoidberg- | did you see the other messages in pm they show the client log |
| 11:38.11 | zoidberg- | and also the client getting 192.168.88.10 i |
| 11:38.12 | zoidberg- | ip |
| 11:38.31 | zoidberg- | i dont think it should be doing that in the first place though as i wont ever know the clients ip |
| 11:38.37 | ompaul | your tunnelling is a bit crazy looking - let me suggest this to you - because I've a flu at this time of year that's not good :) |
| 11:38.39 | zoidberg- | im so confused |
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| 11:39.00 | ompaul | zoidberg-: my concentration won't be the best but this is how I do it |
| 11:39.01 | zoidberg- | ompaul: yeah my routing is a little crazy but its the only way i can get it done |
| 11:39.18 | ompaul | no iot should be cleaner I'll write up something |
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| 11:39.54 | zoidberg- | ok thank you i appriciate this, i have a netowrk diagram i made if it helps |
| 11:39.55 | zoidberg- | hang on |
| 11:40.00 | ompaul | no |
| 11:40.08 | ompaul | what I'll type will make sense |
| 11:41.10 | jmd | Anyway guys, you can all stop looking for a solution to my problem. I have fixed it. |
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| 11:41.21 | zoidberg- | ompaul: :) |
| 11:41.25 | zoidberg- | ok i grab a coffee while i wait |
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| 11:41.58 | MY123 | Did I have a disconnection in the night ? |
| 11:42.02 | MY123 | (IRC) |
| 11:42.12 | zoidberg- | check the status window of your client |
| 11:43.16 | MY123 | zoidberg-: ZNC with automatic reconnection (the server is on my home network) and I was disconnected from ZNC |
| 11:44.05 | MY123 | I may read the logs. |
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| 11:58.17 | jmd | When I try to download from alioth.debian.org I get 406 "Not Acceptable" |
| 11:58.25 | jmd | What is unacceptable? |
| 12:01.21 | metrem | hi all, does anyone know how to bring up a partition as usb disk that can be connect to the other device via one of the USB ports on your computer |
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| 12:03.49 | jmd | metrem: If I understand your question correctly it is "how do I mount a filesystem from a USB connected device?" |
| 12:04.25 | jmd | mount -t <fstype> <name-of-device> <mount-point> |
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| 12:05.47 | metrem | no, i try to transform my server to an hard driver external |
| 12:05.54 | metrem | drive* |
| 12:06.45 | jmd | You will have to explain better. |
| 12:07.35 | metrem | there is this solution : http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/ but that need special driver, so i can't connect my server to my TV |
| 12:08.20 | metrem | simply try to transform my server to an external hard drive |
| 12:08.46 | jmd | What do you mean "transform my server to an external hard drive" ? |
| 12:09.24 | jmd | A server is a process which provides services to other programs. A hard drive is a hardware item for storing data. |
| 12:09.26 | metrem | my server have 2 partition (1 system and 1 data) |
| 12:10.27 | metrem | i want connect my data partition to some other devices with a usb/usb cable |
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| 12:13.02 | metrem | like a USB NAS |
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| 12:15.15 | SynrGy | jmd: the server complains that your Accept-* headers sent in your request would not accept content characteristics the server would send in response to your request. http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html |
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| 12:16.14 | SynrGy | argh |
| 12:16.17 | SynrGy | jmd: the server complains that your Accept-* headers sent in your request would not accept content characteristics the server would send in response to your request. http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html |
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| 12:18.31 | jmd` | SynrGy: Odd. |
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| 12:19.27 | SynrGy | jmd`: yeah. i'll say |
| 12:19.31 | SynrGy | i've never seen it |
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| 12:20.08 | SynrGy | without looking at your user agent's headers and the server's, hard to know what's up, there. |
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| 12:23.24 | metrem | I rephrase, Is there a software solution to make it accessible - via a USB cable - the drive from my Debian laptop to any USB disk compatible device (another computer, media player, DVD player, ...)? |
| 12:25.44 | jmd` | You want to be able to access the hard disk plugged into your laptop, from another machine on the network? |
| 12:26.00 | Roenie | someome highlighted me here, but my channel log doesn't go back far enough |
| 12:26.21 | Roenie | I just woke up. whoever it was, might want to repeat yourself ;) |
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| 12:27.07 | metrem | not on the network because some devices don't have network, so i need usb |
| 12:27.42 | jmd` | So you have several machines all connected somehow via USB? |
| 12:28.37 | Maikel | if it is a lazy sunday for you I can recommend this: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ |
| 12:28.51 | Maikel | it's the filesystem hierachy system paper |
| 12:29.06 | Maikel | I liked it, makes filestructure more clear. |
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| 12:29.45 | deepblue | here is the tail of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1', http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this? |
| 12:30.25 | Roenie | I increased the MTU on both NICs I rsynced between. How do I verify the data integrity? |
| 12:30.48 | Roenie | (the source is assumed good) |
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| 12:31.28 | Roenie | some sort of crc check? |
| 12:31.40 | jmd` | deepblue: Buy a new disk. |
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| 12:32.06 | metrem | no, just one ( my debian laptop ) and i want plug my laptop to some other devices when i need (TV, DVD player, other computer...) |
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| 12:32.53 | jmd` | metrem: So what is the problem? You can plug more than one USB device at a time - no problem. |
| 12:33.44 | metrem | yes, it's not the problem, my problem is to share data via usb port |
| 12:34.24 | metrem | i don't have external drive and usb stick |
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| 12:34.37 | dunderburken | hi, any NAS-guru here? |
| 12:34.44 | metrem | just share my internal drive over usb |
| 12:35.21 | jmd` | metrem: Ahh. Well I think there are solutions for IP over USB |
| 12:36.22 | metrem | yes it's usbnet, but that need a specific driver |
| 12:36.34 | metrem | other solution? |
| 12:37.50 | frostschutz | metrem, you mean like usb gadget, so your laptop acts as an usb stick to the TV? |
| 12:38.13 | frostschutz | metrem, it might require hardware support, I'm not sure |
| 12:38.46 | metrem | frostschutz : exactly |
| 12:38.50 | Bluewolf | Does debian pre-install wine or any of its packages? |
| 12:39.19 | petn-randall | Bluewolf: No. |
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| 12:39.48 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: Thanks |
| 12:40.18 | petn-randall | hi dunderburken, better ask your question directly. Unless you're doing a survey about specialization of this channel. |
| 12:40.26 | blackjack | guys... if a debian system suddenly rebooted. Is there a way to know the reason as to why it rebooted unexpectedly? |
| 12:40.32 | blackjack | where do i start to investigate |
| 12:40.46 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: So your sure there no Wine binary packages on a fresh install of Debian Wheezy? |
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| 12:42.22 | Eleganza | I have a locale problem |
| 12:42.36 | Eleganza | and when I try locale-gen it says command not found |
| 12:43.10 | petn-randall | Bluewolf: Yes, wine doesn't get installed by default, you have to actually select it during or after OS installation. Why do you ask? |
| 12:43.23 | Eleganza | what can I do? |
| 12:43.51 | petn-randall | Eleganza: What exact problem do you experience? |
| 12:43.54 | pksadiq | Eleganza: Did you try as root? or sudo ? |
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| 12:44.08 | Eleganza | yes, sudo locale-gen |
| 12:44.19 | Eleganza | command not found |
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| 12:44.45 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: Okay, I am trying to install it and this is what its telling me - wine is already the newest version. |
| 12:44.48 | Bluewolf | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: |
| 12:44.50 | Bluewolf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:45.17 | pksadiq | Eleganza: try reinstalling the locale package |
| 12:45.19 | Eleganza | when I start some programs they say in terminal: Could not set locale. Please make sure all your LC_* / LANG settings are correct. |
| 12:45.24 | petn-randall | Bluewolf: Then that means you have it already installed. You can check in /var/log/apt/history.log when it got installed. |
| 12:45.25 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, i don't know what happened, but both on debian testing (64-bit) and on Windows XP (virtualbox) flash videos won't play normally; after 2-3 seconds of playback would stop on its own. is it something that has to do with graphics card drivers? i use intel chipset |
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| 12:45.52 | Eleganza | what is the name of locale packages? |
| 12:46.04 | pksadiq | Eleganza: if already installed try dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 12:46.30 | pksadiq | Eleganza: the package name is "locale" itself |
| 12:46.33 | petn-randall | dpkg-reconfigure locales (notice the s) |
| 12:46.40 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: Well then I'm lost, I can't find it in my menu to run? |
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| 12:47.18 | pksadiq | Eleganza: oops, locales, as petn-randall said :-) |
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| 12:48.35 | Eleganza | if I install locales I have to remove a lot of dependencies, including i2p and hexchat |
| 12:49.24 | petn-randall | Bluewolf: wine comes without a GUI. If you want one, you can install q4wine |
| 12:50.38 | petn-randall | Eleganza: Are you sure you're running a pure Debian stable then? |
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| 12:51.02 | Eleganza | not sure |
| 12:51.08 | petn-randall | Eleganza: Sounds like you're running a different distro, or mixed releases, or added repos not compatible with stable. |
| 12:51.22 | Eleganza | I once installed a program from testing repositories but deleted it |
| 12:51.39 | ompaul | Eleganza: paste please the following /etc/apt/sources.list if it is a single file and if you have multiple files /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |
| 12:51.56 | ompaul | please paste all files - accuracy helps us help you |
| 12:52.09 | ompaul | Eleganza: http://paste.debian.net |
| 12:52.11 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: So installing q4wine will allow me to open programs with it by right clicking and going to properties to choose? |
| 12:52.33 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: And I simply install it in Software installer? |
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| 12:54.07 | petn-randall | Bluewolf: You can already do that, depending on your file browser. Right click and then select "open as ..." and then select 'wine'. |
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| 12:55.46 | Eleganza | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hjEyBibE |
| 12:55.48 | Eleganza | this is it |
| 12:56.14 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: That my point, I can't do that. The only option it gives me is Mono Runtime, unless its under another name? |
| 12:56.14 | ompaul | Eleganza: you were asked to use the debian one because it doesn't do adverts or that crazy captcha |
| 12:56.53 | Eleganza | I can't post on debian one, because my isp blocks all the sites and I am behind tor |
| 12:56.53 | ompaul | Eleganza: you seem to have a strange mix in there |
| 12:57.11 | Eleganza | and paste.debian.org blocks me from posting |
| 12:57.46 | Eleganza | what can I doL |
| 12:57.50 | Eleganza | *do? |
| 12:57.59 | ompaul | get a better isp |
| 12:58.20 | Eleganza | no, what can I do for my sources.list |
| 12:58.23 | ompaul | heh |
| 12:58.29 | ompaul | I'll do a little editing |
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| 12:58.39 | Eleganza | I don't live in a free country, tor is the only option |
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| 12:59.52 | petn-randall | Eleganza: .de? |
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| 13:00.08 | Eleganza | no, i don't live in germany |
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| 13:01.05 | r-x-w- | haha, ha. DE is in the EU. It's a magical place where internet neutrality exists. |
| 13:01.19 | Eleganza | i do not live in .de |
| 13:01.33 | Exagone313 | germany? |
| 13:01.40 | Eleganza | i don't |
| 13:01.43 | r-x-w- | Eleganza: I was commenting on petn-randall -- where do you live? |
| 13:01.56 | Eleganza | I am in Israeli now |
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| 13:03.26 | ompaul | ,v tor |
| 13:03.28 | judd | Package: tor on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 0.2.2.37-1~bpo60+1; squeeze: 0.2.2.39-1; squeeze-security: 0.2.2.39-1; wheezy: 0.2.4.22-1~deb7u1; squeeze-security-lts: 0.2.4.23-1~deb6u1; wheezy-security: 0.2.4.23-1~deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 0.2.4.23-1~deb7u1; sid: 0.2.4.23-1; jessie: 0.2.4.23-1; experimental: 0.2.5.6-alpha-1 |
| 13:03.33 | ompaul | Eleganza: ^^^ |
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| 13:03.39 | ompaul | see you can get tor |
| 13:03.49 | ompaul | you don't need to go around the world |
| 13:03.57 | ompaul | ,v ip2p |
| 13:03.58 | judd | No package named 'ip2p' was found in i386. |
| 13:04.05 | petn-randall | ,v i2p |
| 13:04.06 | judd | No package named 'i2p' was found in i386. |
| 13:04.11 | r-x-w- | ,v openvpn |
| 13:04.12 | judd | Package: openvpn on i386 -- squeeze: 2.1.3-2+squeeze2; squeeze-backports: 2.2.1-3~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.2.1-8+deb7u2; wheezy-updates: 2.2.1-8+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 2.3.2-7~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.3.2-9; sid: 2.3.2-9; experimental: 2.3.3-1 |
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| 13:04.25 | Exagone313 | I think he wants to route 80 and 443 ports to tor network to do debian updates |
| 13:04.27 | r-x-w- | ^ this |
| 13:04.33 | Exagone313 | isn't this? |
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| 13:05.26 | ompaul | Eleganza: you got spam sorry you got a link http://pastebin.com/TK6kYHC7 |
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| 13:05.49 | ompaul | Eleganza: apt-get update on that and then apt-get dist-upgrade and that should clean some of the box up unless the tor stuff has contaminated your machine |
| 13:05.54 | ompaul | in a bad way |
| 13:05.56 | ompaul | which it might |
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| 13:10.51 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: That my point, I can't do that. The only option it gives me is Mono Runtime, unless its under another name? |
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| 13:16.34 | Eleganza | thanks a lot |
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| 13:38.50 | leaeasy | hello, everyone, How can I get python2-pyqt5 from debian |
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| 13:50.17 | wubic | How do i get auditd to send a mail everytime a rule is hit? |
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| 13:56.03 | metrem | hi |
| 13:56.25 | metrem | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:59.52 | jmd` | metrem: Possibly there is, but if so it would be a rather specialised thing, and #debian is unlikely to be the best place to ask. |
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| 14:42.23 | NaturalMess | anybody that are using selinux? |
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| 14:42.30 | NaturalMess | debian users? |
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| 14:42.45 | NaturalMess | for desktop |
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| 14:51.22 | woshty | Not debian related: Is there any documentation on the kernel thermal zone system? A better place to ask on freenode? |
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| 14:53.59 | roshanavand | 389-ds does not bind to ipv4! |
| 14:54.01 | roshanavand | any idea? |
| 14:54.11 | roshanavand | I have installed it alongside with kolab |
| 14:54.28 | roshanavand | and it only binds to ipv6 on port 389 |
| 14:54.31 | roshanavand | :\ |
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| 15:13.10 | b4tm4n | how can i tell which driver my usb wifi adapter is using? |
| 15:14.38 | Ostm | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7817/how-to-find-out-which-wi-fi-driver-is-installed |
| 15:14.56 | tensorpudding | Well, you can look through the loaded kernel modules and do a guessing game. |
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| 15:17.01 | b4tm4n | maybe a better question is, what driver should i be using for the Alfa AWUS036NHA |
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| 15:19.46 | Ostm | http://www.rokland.com/mask/drivers/alfa/AWUS036NHA-win8.zip |
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| 15:25.54 | jonasxx | Hi, i just installed debian wheezy (32 bit) and then upgraded to testing |
| 15:26.13 | jonasxx | now i am really interested in checking the integrity of the OS, check if it's complete and not broken... is there any suggested way? |
| 15:26.16 | asandweech | Hey, I just switched to using jessie, and I am having a hard time getting fglrx installed. Keeps failing during compilation of the modules |
| 15:26.32 | asandweech | Is there any documentation on installing it anywhere? |
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| 15:30.35 | jonasxx | nvm, desktop got stuck... gona reinstall 64bit |
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| 15:43.36 | ompaul | jonasxx: you install testing ... and you want it to be stable - interesting |
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| 15:49.32 | uwjesq | So my Samsung display turns it self of and has problems turning itself on again. |
| 15:50.12 | jonasxx | ompaul: interesting only if you otorge a cinical term to stable |
| 15:51.25 | jonasxx | ompaul: i meant, interesting only if you grant a cynical term to stable |
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| 15:52.58 | ompaul | jonasxx: if your objective is to see something in a state of flux on its way to becoming stable that will be testing |
| 15:53.12 | ompaul | jonasxx: if you want to see what is left to do the BTS will help you there |
| 15:53.14 | ompaul | !bts |
| 15:53.15 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 15:55.26 | ompaul | jonasxx: please note also that complete is a strange word :) |
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| 15:55.51 | ompaul | and with that I'll leave it to you for a while |
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| 16:00.08 | jonasxx | if your still around, thanks for the tips |
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| 16:05.54 | chickensk | hello, im trying to get fuse+ntfs automount but get this error: http://pastie.org/9499038 |
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| 16:06.19 | chickensk | is ntfs-3g built with fuse support in wheezy? |
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| 16:10.12 | Bluewolf | When does Debian Wheezy 7.6.0 Gnome become outdated? |
| 16:10.44 | tensorpudding | What do you mean? |
| 16:10.52 | linuxthefish | why are all new debian installs giving locale errors? |
| 16:11.17 | tensorpudding | linuxthefish: Which are you installing? |
| 16:11.30 | linuxthefish | 3 default debian installs |
| 16:11.38 | linuxthefish | all complain about some crap on apt-get update |
| 16:11.52 | linuxthefish | *** update-locale: Error: invalid locale settings: LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 LANG="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 16:11.59 | linuxthefish | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 16:12.01 | linuxthefish | all like this :/ |
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| 16:13.04 | tensorpudding | Bluewolf: The GNOME in wheezy will be supported by Debian as long as wheezy is, so in that sense it's not "outdated", but the GNOME project might not really be concerned with supporting it anymore, since it's rather old now. |
| 16:13.38 | tensorpudding | linuxthefish: Is that wheezy? |
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| 16:13.58 | linuxthefish | yes |
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| 16:14.02 | linuxthefish | basicly on any command... |
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| 16:14.24 | Bluewolf | tensorpudding: I meant with security updates as well...? |
| 16:14.32 | Bluewolf | :D |
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| 16:17.29 | tensorpudding | Bluewolf: I would assume so, since GNOME is a core part of Debian. |
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| 16:18.24 | Bluewolf | tensorpudding: Okay, so you don't have a date when things go south? |
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| 16:19.24 | tensorpudding | Bluewolf: I think wheezy will continue receive support until it ceases to be oldstable, which is whenever the release after jessie releases. |
| 16:19.44 | tensorpudding | linuxthefish: What have you modified from the default install? You might try and find out. Unless this problem started when you installed. |
| 16:19.50 | linuxthefish | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VeBE4hNL this error :( |
| 16:20.01 | linuxthefish | it's seriously default install and SSH'ing in |
| 16:20.37 | Bluewolf | tensorpudding: Okay thank you :D |
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| 16:20.41 | Bluewolf | Is there anyone here who is familiar with gtk2,-3 Themes and how to change or edit them? |
| 16:20.47 | jelly-home | !tell linuxthefish about locales |
| 16:21.09 | tensorpudding | Bluewolf: squeeze, the release before wheezy, has security support until February 2016, squeeze released in February 2011...so you can probably expect 5 years from when Wheezy released (it released in 2013). |
| 16:21.48 | Bluewolf | tensorpudding: Thanks that is great :D |
| 16:21.58 | linuxthefish | i generate all in "dpkg-reconfigure locales" ? |
| 16:22.04 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 16:22.20 | linuxthefish | why does this not happen on install now? :( |
| 16:22.35 | jelly-home | enable at least the ones your commands are complaining about |
| 16:22.49 | tensorpudding | linuxthefish: did you modify locales by hand? |
| 16:22.52 | jelly-home | linuxthefish: it does, actually |
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| 16:24.12 | linuxthefish | seriously default netinstall with ssh server |
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| 16:24.23 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if 3.15 is coming to wheezy backports or is it gonna stay on 3.14 |
| 16:24.38 | tensorpudding | Maybe the network failed during a step for configuring packages and it got skipped? |
| 16:24.47 | shay_shay | JyZyXEL: whezy backports is whatever jessie kernel is |
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| 16:24.59 | asandweech | does anyone know of a way to restore the graphics drivers that get configured during installation? |
| 16:25.39 | JyZyXEL | shay_shay: is there an easy way to check at what kernel versions each debian version is? |
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| 16:26.14 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: /msg judd kernels |
| 16:27.02 | JyZyXEL | hmm, i thought jessie was gonna go with the 3.16 kernel |
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| 16:27.46 | linuxthefish | argh locale error fixed but in german now! |
| 16:27.53 | Bluewolf | Is there anyone here who is familiar with gtk2,-3 Themes and how to change or edit them? |
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| 16:28.25 | shay_shay | JyZyXEL: it is, just not yet. 3.16 isn't ready yet |
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| 16:28.33 | JyZyXEL | ah, i see |
| 16:28.37 | tensorpudding | Bluewolf: You can switch themes in GNOME using the GNOME Tweak Tool. |
| 16:28.45 | shay_shay | i was using it on ubuntu utopic, it was giving me deadlocks |
| 16:29.12 | shay_shay | 3.15.9 is the last one i can even use |
| 16:29.20 | shay_shay | from mainline^ |
| 16:29.42 | Bluewolf | tensorpudding: Yeah I know that, I wanted more advance options. I mean changing actual themes settings. |
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| 16:31.39 | tensorpudding | Editing themes is a complicated process, there is a stylesheet of sorts in there which has values you can edit by hand, but different themes will use that file differently. http://worldofgnome.org/making-gtk3-themes-part-1-basics/ has a guide to the format that GTK 3 themes use, but it's a bit obsolete. |
| 16:31.45 | t4nk420 | Good day! Need some help on debian |
| 16:33.22 | Bluewolf | tensorpudding: Yeah thats exactly what I want to change, the theme I have is just about perfect except for on or two things and I just wanted to change them. |
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| 16:34.06 | t4nk420 | have some issues connecting to my router |
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| 16:35.12 | t4nk420 | Donnot know if it is a hardware or software problem. Someone help me please! |
| 16:36.49 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: What's the router, what is the wifi chipset, can you verify that the router is otherwise working properly? |
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| 16:38.14 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: What are you using to connect? |
| 16:38.21 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: yes the router is working properly, it is a Nexxt router. |
| 16:38.49 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: I had Kali linux install before and it was working properly |
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| 16:40.51 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: This is the output for ifconfig http://pastebin.com/vBgRSQxj |
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| 16:41.27 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: I think that Debian doesnot recognize the wireless card of my PC |
| 16:41.43 | asandweech | Would it be possible to go through the normal jessie install process but skip the grub steps? |
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| 16:47.42 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: What about the output of 'iwconfig'? |
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| 16:48.30 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: What is your wireless chipset? You might not have the driver module installed, and in that case there is no way that your wifi card would be seen in order to connect. |
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| 16:48.56 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. |
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| 16:50.45 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: how do I install the driver module, on Kali it was working fine |
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| 16:54.18 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: First you have to know what the wifi chipset is. |
| 16:54.33 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: Is it a laptop or a desktop? |
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| 16:55.03 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: Its a laptop, Dell Inspiron 14 |
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| 16:56.18 | tensorpudding | That has Broadcom wifi, so it's not surprising that it doesn't work on Debian, which refuses to package proprietary firmware in the default install as a matter of principle. |
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| 16:57.05 | teraflops | lolbcm |
| 16:57.06 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: Get the output of 'lspci' and put it on a pastebin for us, so we can see the particular one that you have. |
| 16:57.20 | jelly-home | lspci -nn would be better |
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| 16:59.32 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: http://pastebin.com/ZCq2vjt4 |
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| 16:59.58 | tensorpudding | Ah, Atheros? |
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| 17:01.14 | tensorpudding | Reading online, it seems that it should be supported by a free driver but wheezy's kernel might not be new enough. |
| 17:02.43 | tensorpudding | Maybe getting a backport kernel will help. |
| 17:02.57 | tensorpudding | Is there a dpkg infothing for kernel backports... |
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| 17:04.23 | damo22 | what does it mean when i get SCSI error on write(18432,16): See MMC specs: Sense Key 3 "Medium error", ASC 10 ASCQ 00. when trying to burn a cd? |
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| 17:04.26 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: well I am totally new in Linux, its seems to be very dificult |
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| 17:05.20 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: https://scottlinux.com/2013/11/23/how-to-install-newer-kernel-from-debian-wheezy-backports/ is a rough guide, it's not hard, you just add a new repository, update packages, and install the proper kernel package for your architecture. |
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| 17:07.43 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: Then reboot and it will use the new kernel. |
| 17:08.00 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: But you can still use the old one if the new one has some kind of problem. |
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| 17:08.48 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: Do you know what would be my architecture |
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| 17:11.07 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: You have amd64, so you would just install linux-image-amd64 and it'd pick the right one. |
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| 17:12.56 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: It is asking me to insert the cdrom but I installed debian with a flashdrive |
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| 17:13.02 | qjqqyy | #nig hi |
| 17:13.07 | qjqqyy | #nig hi |
| 17:13.13 | qjqqyy | #nig hi |
| 17:13.19 | qjqqyy | #nig hi |
| 17:13.25 | qjqqyy | #nig hi |
| 17:13.41 | petn-randall | qjqqyy: stop spamming the channel. |
| 17:13.47 | qjqqyy | sorry |
| 17:13.49 | qjqqyy | misfiring script |
| 17:13.50 | qjqqyy | ignore that |
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| 17:14.18 | shay_shay | Hey guys I select ssh from the "load extra installer components" screen in the Debian expert install, how to use? |
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| 17:14.50 | petn-randall | shay_shay: You mean ssh to continue installation? |
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| 17:17.37 | shay_shay | Maybe I selected the wrong one |
| 17:17.59 | shay_shay | Last time I used it a screen popped up giving me IP address and password |
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| 17:18.08 | shay_shay | This time it just kept going |
| 17:18.14 | kahiru | hello |
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| 17:18.25 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: Where is it asking that... |
| 17:18.41 | petn-randall | shay_shay: Yeah, you have to select a point in the main menu after setting up the network, then it'll display something like "Log in via ssh install@<ipaddress>". |
| 17:19.04 | shay_shay | Oh gotcha |
| 17:19.21 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: when I enter this apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
| 17:20.19 | shay_shay | I guess I should figure out how to make a preseed iso which automatically enables ssh |
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| 17:23.10 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: You should remove the CD archives from your /etc/apt/sources.list file. |
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| 17:23.52 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: When they say "CD" they just mean the packages in the installation ISO, nowadays lots of people use that ISO on flash drives instead of burning a blank CD for it. |
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| 17:24.56 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: Afirmative, now downloading |
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| 17:27.23 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: when Installing I got this http://pastebin.com/wrbqejG8 Do you know what is that |
| 17:27.33 | kahiru | if i install debian now from testing cd image, will there be systemd as init? |
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| 17:28.39 | rgr | kahiru: if not its trivial to change it after install. Simply a grub entry modification. |
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| 17:29.23 | kahiru | rgr: i know its not hard to replace sysvinit with systemd, id just prefer not to have to do it |
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| 17:29.59 | t4nk420 | tensorpudding: Thank you so much for your help, I will reboot my laptop to see if it works. |
| 17:30.03 | tensorpudding | t4nk420: It means that they're not sure if your ethernet chipset will work, but unless you plan on using it that's not a problem, it might not be a problem in any event. I have that warning on my own computer sometimes. |
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| 17:31.19 | rgr | well ok but it takes less time than asking.... and if its so critical then the time to do it is somewhat inconsequential. |
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| 17:35.02 | t4nk086 | tensorpudding: Hey you where helping me with my wireless card, it works, thank you so much you are a genius |
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| 17:38.34 | tensorpudding | t4nk086: You're welcome. I'm glad it works. |
| 17:39.54 | t4nk086 | tensorpudding: you're the best, Bye |
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| 18:18.13 | linuxthefish | how do i install GTK? |
| 18:18.25 | linuxthefish | ** (xfrun4:27129): CRITICAL **: GTK is not available, failing. |
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| 18:19.02 | julss | is security.debian.org down? can't apt-get update... |
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| 18:23.56 | banjo | julss: depends on what server you want to connect, US/GER/BE/NL/CN/etc |
| 18:24.26 | linuxthefish | E: Unable to locate package gtk2 |
| 18:24.35 | julss | banjo: in my sources.list, the URL is just security.debian.org; I am located in Germany |
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| 18:25.20 | julss | banjo: the server I am connected to is slow, but finally it worked |
| 18:27.02 | banjo | julss: i see it looks like there is only one security server http://security.debian.org/ |
| 18:27.31 | banjo | so could be slow...dont know where its located |
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| 18:28.19 | banjo | linuxthefish: do you mean gtk2-engine? |
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| 18:30.28 | petn-randall | banjo, julss, security.debian.org resolves to three IP addresses, those three servers are always kept up to date. Btw, it works for me, you might need to check your connection. |
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| 18:43.22 | jelly-home | linuxthefish: since xfce is built on top of it, you ought to have it already |
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| 18:53.16 | nwpt | In nm-applet when I try to add a connection, all fields are greyed out in the dialog that pops up and I can only click cancel. Why is this? |
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| 18:54.13 | sexyboy | nwpt: privileges |
| 18:54.29 | rgr | you're not in the netdev group. |
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| 18:54.57 | nwpt | but of course |
| 18:54.58 | nwpt | thanks |
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| 19:07.49 | opposition | anyone can name a trademark for a laptop that runs debian ? |
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| 19:08.57 | opposition | or linux to not be precise |
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| 19:09.42 | DelphiWorld | hey debianisers |
| 19:09.46 | DelphiWorld | using ftp put |
| 19:09.53 | DelphiWorld | if i connect to my ftp |
| 19:09.55 | DelphiWorld | and use mput * |
| 19:10.03 | DelphiWorld | its asking me for the files every time |
| 19:10.09 | DelphiWorld | how to make it upload all one by one? |
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| 19:10.36 | opposition | to upload the files all at once |
| 19:10.56 | DelphiWorld | opposition: yes what to use? |
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| 19:11.38 | opposition | the day will come that someone in this channel will answer your questions |
| 19:11.42 | kahiru | you could use curl |
| 19:11.57 | sexyboy | opposition: well, system76 laptops claim to be made for linux |
| 19:11.59 | DelphiWorld | kahiru: curl with ftp? |
| 19:12.23 | sexyboy | opposition: also, chromebooks should work nicely |
| 19:12.58 | DelphiWorld | people claim to be using mput but asking for confirmation every time |
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| 19:13.43 | opposition | hows the pricing of those sexyboy ? are they affordable too ? |
| 19:14.26 | opposition | DelphiWorld: you are using an terminal to ftp ? |
| 19:14.37 | DelphiWorld | opposition: yup |
| 19:14.44 | opposition | good 4 you |
| 19:14.57 | DelphiWorld | yes this is not gnome or kde;) |
| 19:15.11 | kahiru | DelphiWorld: curl -u username:password -T file1 -T file2 ftp.somewhere.com/folder/ |
| 19:15.12 | sexyboy | opposition: most chromebooks are pretty budged |
| 19:15.14 | sexyboy | budget* |
| 19:15.36 | opposition | k thanks |
| 19:15.47 | opposition | ill check it out |
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| 19:16.06 | DelphiWorld | kahiru: thanks let me try |
| 19:16.26 | opposition | curl is what an applet ? |
| 19:16.38 | opposition | curl is what ? an applet ? |
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| 19:16.59 | opposition | you can do better than curl DelphiWorld |
| 19:17.04 | DelphiWorld | opposition: curl is a command line program |
| 19:17.10 | kahiru | ^ |
| 19:17.22 | DelphiWorld | kahiru: lol i dont think opposition know bash ! |
| 19:17.37 | opposition | youve been wrong more than once |
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| 19:20.06 | Nurbs | Is there a way to schedule a filesystem check during the next reboot? Or, asked differently, how do I btrfs check --repair a btrfs root fs without booting another system? |
| 19:20.07 | opposition | if i tell you bash is still an 8bit hog DelphiWorld then what |
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| 19:20.38 | opposition | try sh instead of bash if youre that good |
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| 19:21.02 | opposition | at least sh is ultralight compared |
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| 19:21.51 | teraflops | Nurbs: i dont know if that still works, it used to work for me: `touch /forcefsck` |
| 19:21.59 | DelphiWorld | kahiru: -T something.mp3 dont work |
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| 19:23.16 | kahiru | could you run the same command with -v added to the end and paste it to pastbin or something? |
| 19:23.26 | DelphiWorld | ppoi'm pro debian. if debian give me bash i use bash |
| 19:23.44 | opposition | debian gives you sh too |
| 19:24.02 | DelphiWorld | curl -u 'something:somepass' -T *.mp3 ftp://32.32.32.32/media |
| 19:24.34 | kahiru | you cant -T *.mp3, you have to prepend each file with -T |
| 19:24.41 | DelphiWorld | kahiru: there's no such verbosity curl see the file as an option |
| 19:24.55 | DelphiWorld | oh... but i want to upload all! |
| 19:25.00 | DelphiWorld | i have about 500 files:P |
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| 19:25.06 | kahiru | give me a sec |
| 19:27.02 | Nurbs | teraflops: Interesting, didn't know tha tone. Grepping /etc gave me that checkfs.sh and checkroot.sh seem to honor -f /forcefsck or forcefsck in /proc/cmdline, which I can simply append when booting.But unfortunately it also explicitly disabled checking of btrfs root, argh. |
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| 19:27.45 | kahiru | you can use this oneliner |
| 19:27.46 | kahiru | ARGS=""; for file in *.mp3; do ARGS="$ARGS -T $file"; done; curl -u user:pass $ARGS ftp://32.32.32.32/media |
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| 19:28.28 | opposition | a for loop is a workaround thp |
| 19:29.01 | DelphiWorld | kahiru: forget it ;) |
| 19:29.05 | DelphiWorld | kahiru: thank anyway :D |
| 19:29.10 | DelphiWorld | i got the solution for ftp |
| 19:29.19 | DelphiWorld | befaure runing mput i should run: prompt |
| 19:29.19 | opposition | if youre gonna use for loops in bash then its way faster in sh |
| 19:29.23 | DelphiWorld | to disable interactivity |
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| 19:29.46 | DelphiWorld | dear opposition ... this is just media files going to upload to studio:P |
| 19:30.07 | opposition | but how ? |
| 19:30.28 | DelphiWorld | ftp commandline |
| 19:30.34 | opposition | right |
| 19:30.37 | opposition | and a for loop |
| 19:30.44 | DelphiWorld | nop |
| 19:30.48 | DelphiWorld | opposition: i got the solution |
| 19:30.51 | DelphiWorld | ftp hostname.com |
| 19:30.56 | DelphiWorld | i login with user/pass |
| 19:31.01 | DelphiWorld | do prompt |
| 19:31.03 | DelphiWorld | then mput |
| 19:31.15 | opposition | you rock DelphiWorld |
| 19:31.24 | DelphiWorld | lol |
| 19:31.25 | DelphiWorld | i dont |
| 19:31.37 | opposition | and modest too ! |
| 19:31.45 | DelphiWorld | HEHE |
| 19:32.28 | DelphiWorld | opposition: if i was from your country i should have a coffee with you;) |
| 19:32.29 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: I find lftp to be a bit more friendly than the default ftp client, it can run jobs in its background and can save bookmarks |
| 19:32.52 | opposition | DelphiWorld: the grass is always greener they say |
| 19:32.57 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: ok, i'lle take your suggestion and try it, just i dont want to have ncurses |
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| 19:33.33 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: it doesn't open a full screen thing like ncftp by default |
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| 19:34.04 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: ncurses suck for windows users who use screen readers |
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| 19:35.10 | opposition | but debian does not give us delphi, instead it gives us c |
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| 19:35.29 | DelphiWorld | opposition: debian give me evean gold |
| 19:35.40 | opposition | is that so ? |
| 19:35.48 | DelphiWorld | yes is it |
| 19:35.51 | opposition | nice |
| 19:35.54 | jelly-home | gives opposition fpc |
| 19:36.10 | DelphiWorld | you look like drinky;) |
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| 19:40.38 | opposition | its just too bad linux uses the GNU compiler which is sort of malware |
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| 19:40.59 | opposition | the gnurus have made assumptions they should never have |
| 19:41.00 | jelly-home | eyes opposition |
| 19:42.07 | opposition | theyre a drag on fast code |
| 19:42.29 | opposition | if you know what youre doing you know im right |
| 19:43.46 | opposition | there should be some better c compilers outthere and ive tried some but i keep crashing em |
| 19:44.17 | opposition | maybe those are fixed in sid though |
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| 19:46.19 | jelly-home | opposition: there are different compilers, like clang, but your comment is too vague to consider it a tech support question |
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| 19:46.31 | opposition | no im just saying |
| 19:47.16 | opposition | and i doubt linux will change the GNU compiler but they should imho |
| 19:47.36 | opposition | asap |
| 19:50.00 | courtyard | bsd uses clang |
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| 19:50.52 | opposition | im havent checked clang so i wont make any statements about it |
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| 19:51.45 | shay_shay | This is a support channel people! |
| 19:52.02 | shay_shay | My 2 ¢ |
| 19:53.10 | opposition | shay_shay: when is the release of debian clang linux ? |
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| 20:04.51 | jelly-home | opposition: http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/2014/03/21/rebuild-of-debian-using-clang http://clang.debian.net/ |
| 20:05.43 | rgr | hands shay_shay his 2 cents back. |
| 20:05.50 | nkuttler | jelly-home: that's an impressive failure rate |
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| 20:07.18 | jelly-home | may comment about it further in #debian-offtopic, or not |
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| 20:07.41 | Otyugh | hey |
| 20:08.02 | Otyugh | I'm getting a problem. I want to access the dock of some C headers |
| 20:08.12 | Otyugh | "man 3 stdio.h" should print it |
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| 20:08.19 | Otyugh | I get "no entry" |
| 20:08.41 | nkuttler | Otyugh: install manpages-dev |
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| 20:09.10 | nkuttler | actually.. |
| 20:09.24 | Otyugh | well |
| 20:09.31 | Otyugh | it is installed already |
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| 20:09.54 | nkuttler | Otyugh: seems to show up in avr-libc, and there's a man 7 in manpages-posix-dev |
| 20:10.12 | nkuttler | Otyugh: /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 20:10.27 | nkuttler | the first one seems to be quite specific though |
| 20:10.48 | Otyugh | but gcc-avr seem to be a whole other thing |
| 20:10.53 | Otyugh | Well I don't know what it is |
| 20:10.56 | Otyugh | but it is heavy |
| 20:10.57 | nkuttler | Otyugh: it's man 3 stdio |
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| 20:11.18 | Otyugh | 63Mo of doc ? |
| 20:11.41 | Otyugh | I don't even know what avr is >< |
| 20:11.48 | nkuttler | Otyugh: see what i just said |
| 20:12.36 | Otyugh | why is there a gcc-avr installed with it while the package is in avr-libc ? >< |
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| 20:12.50 | nkuttler | Otyugh: aptitude why <package> |
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| 20:13.54 | nkuttler | Otyugh: did you just install avr-libc? you don't need to.. |
| 20:14.17 | Otyugh | I don't install. i first try to understand what it is :p |
| 20:14.33 | nkuttler | Otyugh: you realize you already have the man page you want installed, right? |
| 20:14.53 | Otyugh | I don't :p |
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| 20:15.00 | nkuttler | < nkuttler> Otyugh: it's man 3 stdio |
| 20:15.06 | nkuttler | not man 3 stdio.h |
| 20:15.12 | Otyugh | no, it prints only a partial doc |
| 20:15.25 | jelly-home | partial? |
| 20:15.25 | nkuttler | Otyugh: excuse me? |
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| 20:15.30 | Otyugh | well |
| 20:15.38 | Otyugh | I'm looking for FILE* structure :o |
| 20:15.53 | Otyugh | someone said in ##C that I could fin that in man stdio.h |
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| 20:18.10 | jelly-home | Otyugh: not on linux you can't, internals of FILE * are not part of open API |
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| 20:19.09 | lautriv | i installed systemd by accient, is there any way to revert this on a running system ? |
| 20:19.17 | jelly-home | Otyugh: there are some _* functions that allow peeking into a few specific bits, man 3 stdio_ext |
| 20:19.40 | jelly-home | lautriv: which debian release? |
| 20:20.10 | lautriv | jelly-home, jessie/sid appears dependencies are one-way |
| 20:20.35 | jelly-home | lautriv: ask in #debian-next, not on Freenode but over on irc.oftc.net |
| 20:20.48 | jelly-home | (same thing as irc.debian.org) |
| 20:20.53 | lautriv | will try, thanks |
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| 20:21.20 | nkuttler | !tell lautriv about remove systemd |
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| 20:21.55 | grawity | Is there a way to make 'netfilter-persistent' only load rules.v*, but never write back to the files, or should another tool be used for auto-loading them? |
| 20:21.58 | jelly-home | not sure how uptodate that factoid is |
| 20:22.10 | nkuttler | jelly-home: i just created it a few days ago. we'll see |
| 20:22.57 | banjo | lautriv: normally installing sysvinit-core should solve your problem. but since systemd is now default on testint ive problems (too) with systemd and now back with sysv |
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| 20:23.37 | nkuttler | i have systemd installed but just don't use it to boot |
| 20:24.25 | lautriv | banjo, systemd gas nothing to do with linux, but appears to have ireversible deps. |
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| 20:25.01 | nkuttler | lautriv: anyway, testing/sid support is on oftc |
| 20:25.21 | banjo | lautriv: i think systemd has only to do with linux:) but yeah deps and rdeps are horror |
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| 20:26.00 | jelly-home | which is probably why they're being fixed and tested in unstable and testing before being hoisted into users |
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| 20:26.15 | lautriv | banjo, linux is transparent and modular, that is the opposite of systemd. |
| 20:26.38 | jelly-home | lautriv, banjo: please move this to the right channel. |
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| 20:27.24 | banjo | lautriv: ok now i understand you:) |
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| 20:31.10 | lautriv | jelly-home, there is no right channel, however i'm done for now and let you talk about other things ;) |
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| 20:31.38 | rgr | *crickets* |
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| 20:36.23 | opposition | entertains rgr |
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| 20:40.46 | teraflops | thats annoying |
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| 20:47.30 | opposition | when i first joined this channel there were nerds that had build their own games and we got invited to play them in online matches |
| 20:47.37 | Lady_Aleena | ,v amarok |
| 20:47.38 | judd | Package: amarok on i386 -- squeeze: 2.3.1-1; squeeze-backports: 2.4.1-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.6~beta1+75.g47e75df-1; wheezy-backports: 2.6.0-1~bpo70+1; sid: 2.8.0-2+b1; jessie: 2.8.0-2+b1 |
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| 20:49.17 | opposition | back then this channel was scrolling mad |
| 20:49.57 | rgr | a few too many net nannies now that insist on "topic" even when there's nothing going on and they're the first to break topicality when it suits them. |
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| 20:51.31 | format_c | rgr, :-) |
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| 20:56.40 | opposition | to get 1500 people in the same channel and all shut up is an accomplishment too |
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| 21:01.42 | teraflops | opposition: if your comments are about mine, mine was about the annoyance of the systemd haters not about you nor rgr |
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| 21:03.45 | opposition | no teraflops dont worry about it |
| 21:03.51 | teraflops | ok |
| 21:05.14 | opposition | this was the first irc channel i joined and i remembered how it was back then |
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| 21:06.12 | Elisabeth22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:06.29 | doebi | is there a ffmpeg in debian jessie? |
| 21:06.37 | opposition | there was always lots of words going back and forth by virtually everyone and bans were common |
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| 21:07.38 | opposition | thats a funny quit message by Elisabeth22 |
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| 21:09.21 | opposition | :w |
| 21:10.19 | ompaul | ,ffmpeg |
| 21:10.22 | ompaul | ,v ffmpeg |
| 21:10.23 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.16-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.12-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.15-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 6:0.8.15-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.3.3-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.3.3-dmo3 |
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| 21:13.51 | shay_shay | Rgr I was joking |
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| 21:14.04 | shay_shay | I agree, and that's why I made that satire |
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| 21:16.53 | shay_shay | S/which/who |
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| 21:22.49 | opposition | stares at the join/parts |
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| 21:23.38 | Lady_Aleena | is doing other things. |
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| 21:28.16 | sunn | how can I check the definition of a known bash alias? |
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| 21:28.39 | sunn | i.e., I know the alias but forget what it does |
| 21:30.36 | trampel | sunn: type name_of_alias might do something like you want |
| 21:30.59 | opposition | alias | grep aliasname |
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| 21:37.43 | sunn | neat, both work |
| 21:37.57 | sunn | thanks guys |
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| 21:44.07 | tsam | Hey all. I installed the package firmware-realtek, but I still can find any wireless interface with ip a or iwconfig (lspci outputs RTL8111/8168B). Is there anything else to do, beside the package installation? |
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| 21:45.49 | relaxed | tsam: does "dmesg|grep firmware" say anything's missing? |
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| 21:49.10 | tsam | relaxed: It does. "firmware: agent aborted loading iwlwifi-6000g2a-5.ucode". Now I installed firmware-iwlwifi. Still no iw interface. Maybe I should reboot or something? Or just restart network? |
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| 21:50.05 | relaxed | A reboot should get you going. |
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| 22:01.41 | lmat | I'm trying to print some images. |
| 22:01.57 | lmat | I see that shotwell will print 1,2,4,6, etc. images per sheet |
| 22:02.07 | lmat | I'm trying to print 3 4x6 on letter-sized. |
| 22:02.26 | lmat | The only way to make it fit is to have two pictures side-by-side "long ways" (same orientation as the paper) |
| 22:02.30 | lmat | then one at the bottom the other way. |
| 22:02.37 | lmat | I also tried gnome-photo-printer. |
| 22:02.51 | lmat | Neither of them seem to have this option. The reason it was brought to my attention that this works out |
| 22:03.18 | lmat | is because I printed from Windows XP (like, the OS picture printer, right click the pictures, print...) and it suggested this layout. |
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| 22:08.17 | lmat | I don't even know how to search the web for it :( |
| 22:08.29 | lmat | "print 3 4x6 on letter size" doesn't seem to return anything useful |
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| 22:19.58 | lachesis | hey, i have two IPs on the same (private) network, to allow me to offer different internal services on port 80 for each IP. |
| 22:20.12 | lachesis | how can i use /etc/network/interfaces to set one as the default src address? |
| 22:20.33 | corretico | hello |
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| 22:20.55 | corretico | somebody know about MS Linux Integration Services on Debian 7 ? |
| 22:20.55 | lkamil | hi, I have some mess with my graphical card drivers |
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| 22:21.29 | lkamil | I use Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450/6350]. installed some closed drivers, then open ones, then removed some.. not sure what is the situation now and glx does not work |
| 22:21.55 | lkamil | how to completely clear and clearly reinstall drivers to support that card with 3d support? will open drivers work for me for games too? |
| 22:22.24 | lkamil | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.17 | onitaL | I haven't messed with fglrx in a while, but run dpkg -l|grep fglrx to see if there are any left over, lkamil |
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| 22:24.44 | lkamil | onitaL, for what should I be aiming? are the fully open-source drivers of this card working well, with 3d opengl? |
| 22:25.02 | lkamil | on1ald, also all fglrx are as "rc" |
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| 22:26.24 | cooldude | hi there, is there anyone in here that is a expert of CUPS, i have a problem with it and need help |
| 22:27.10 | onitaL | lkamil, I don't game with linux, so whatever 3d support the open source drivers gave me it was enough for me. |
| 22:28.08 | lkamil | on1ald, does "glxgears" work for you? |
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| 22:28.36 | lkamil | onitaL, as for cups I think if not here then maybe #linux |
| 22:28.37 | onitaL | glxgears worked for me, but that was two debian releases ago |
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| 22:29.23 | onitaL | CUPS? the printing service? |
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| 22:29.44 | onitaL | oh, you confused me with cooldude |
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| 22:30.57 | lkamil | oh right sorry. cooldude. |
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| 22:32.16 | cooldude | my problem with CUPS is that i'm unable to add a printer.. |
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| 22:33.48 | cynicallemon | cooldude: add a printer from a workstation or on the cups server itself? |
| 22:34.08 | cooldude | on the cups server cynicallemon |
| 22:34.33 | cynicallemon | do you have the correct permissions to do so? |
| 22:34.38 | cooldude | basically cynicallemon it is just refreshing the page with i'm trying to add a printer on the CUPS server |
| 22:34.55 | cooldude | i'm sure i have the correct permissions |
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| 22:35.55 | cynicallemon | cooldude: have you just set the cups server up? |
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| 22:36.06 | cooldude | well yes and no |
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| 22:36.46 | cooldude | i have reinstalled the whole debian OS on the server where i'm doing the CUPS server on and i still have the same problem |
| 22:37.19 | cooldude | it is just today i'm experincing this problem |
| 22:37.45 | cooldude | my CUPS server was working a couple of days ago.. |
| 22:37.52 | cynicallemon | cooldude: have you checked the logs to see if they have any hints as to why you cant add a printer |
| 22:38.33 | cooldude | i do see some errors that say " E [24/Aug/2014:18:25:15 -0400] SSL shutdown failed: Error in the push function. " |
| 22:40.25 | onitaL | hmmm "W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libcdio-dev' |
| 22:40.25 | onitaL | " |
| 22:41.36 | cynicallemon | cooldude: that looks like its cups related |
| 22:41.40 | nkuttler | onitaL: your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |
| 22:41.57 | cynicallemon | cooldude: you on wheezy? |
| 22:42.06 | cooldude | cynicallemon, no |
| 22:42.20 | cooldude | i'm on Squeeze |
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| 22:43.36 | onitaL | nkuttler, ah, ok, commenting out experimental "fixes" that |
| 22:43.40 | cooldude | oh cynicallemon i am getting these 2 lines of logs: |
| 22:43.40 | onitaL | thanks |
| 22:43.41 | cooldude | D [24/Aug/2014:18:42:46 -0400] [CGI] op="add-printer"... |
| 22:43.41 | cooldude | D [24/Aug/2014:18:42:46 -0400] [CGI] do_am_printer: DEVICE_URI="(null)" |
| 22:43.52 | nkuttler | onitaL: ;) |
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| 22:45.04 | cynicallemon | cooldude: i would suggest installing wheezy and try |
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| 22:45.34 | cynicallemon | cooldude: i assume you have done all the updates on squeeze |
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| 22:46.23 | cooldude | cynicallemon, there are no updates |
| 22:46.32 | cooldude | i just ran a apt-get update and upgrade |
| 22:47.08 | cynicallemon | cooldude: i assume then that youre up to date then |
| 22:47.12 | cooldude | yes |
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| 22:48.37 | Guest81567 | .nick deepblue |
| 22:49.54 | opposition | and maybe thats just the problem |
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| 22:51.11 | cooldude | you are still seeing what is wrogn cynicallemon..? |
| 22:51.16 | opposition | the recent squeeze update |
| 22:51.49 | cynicallemon | cooldude: if you havent gone too far with the server install then i would slap wheezy on it as its got a much newer version of cups |
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| 22:52.36 | opposition | if you restore your squeeze system from backup things will work again like they did just fine |
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| 22:52.52 | cooldude | cynicallemon, do i have to download a whole new ISO of Wheezy and redo the whole install or is there a apt-get cmd to update to Wheezy..? |
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| 22:54.39 | cynicallemon | cooldude: you could upgrade via apt but if you started out with problems then id be tempted just to download wehhey iso and start afresh |
| 22:54.58 | cooldude | sigh k |
| 22:55.07 | aib | my apt-get/aptitude is stuck Waiting for headers... how can I see which server it's waiting on ? |
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| 22:55.42 | cooldude | cynicallemon, do u know where a link to get the netinstall of Wheezy..? |
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| 22:57.35 | dvs | cooldude: ??? Top right corner of http://www.debian.org/ ? |
| 22:57.43 | cynicallemon | cooldude: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 22:57.54 | deepblue | here is the tail of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1', http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this? |
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| 23:01.24 | cooldude | cynicallemon, 32 bit is i386..? |
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| 23:01.32 | cynicallemon | yes |
| 23:01.33 | cooldude | k |
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| 23:01.38 | cooldude | just making sure |
| 23:01.47 | cynicallemon | :) |
| 23:01.49 | cooldude | i'm having a bad day as it is with this shit.. |
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| 23:03.22 | cooldude | ..like i'm having a bad day with this CUPS server not working as well as my lil bro getting locked off his XBox account.. :| |
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| 23:05.06 | corretico | somebody knows about LIS (Linux Integration Services) modules for Wheezy?? |
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| 23:10.34 | opposition | i think the squeeze upgrade is broken |
| 23:11.06 | opposition | dont know about cups but the latest squeeze update broke my screen |
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| 23:11.44 | opposition | so never update or upgrade stable debian on running servers |
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| 23:12.14 | opposition | if youre running a live server do not update/upgrade debian nomatter if its stable |
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| 23:13.51 | opposition | first you gotta run a test on the update and then transfer it to your live server |
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| 23:16.05 | opposition | if you can you backup your working system so you have the option to restore a working system |
| 23:17.13 | opposition | do not, i repeat do NOT just update debian stable and think things will work |
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| 23:18.12 | opposition | and gigabytes come cheap these days so there s no argument to not backup your working system |
| 23:18.19 | opposition | thanks nasa |
| 23:18.53 | opposition | and google and all those secret perverts |
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| 23:22.43 | opposition | rsync is a nice tool to backup and restore from backup |
| 23:23.21 | opposition | it copies only the changed files and optionally gives you a listing of the modifications |
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| 23:24.17 | opposition | making it lightning fast to restore very large systems |
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| 23:29.06 | opposition | -vaxdn to test and -vaxd to copy |
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| 23:33.15 | opposition | other than that .... |
| 23:33.30 | opposition | i advice STREAMRIPPER |
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| 23:33.35 | opposition | lol |
| 23:33.48 | threadlock | is it possible to install jessie from the netinstall image withour systemd? |
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| 23:34.43 | threadlock | *without |
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| 23:36.35 | rgr | opposition: rsync is absolutley NOT lightning fast to restore a live system. However it is lightning fast to do an incremental backup. A totally different beast. A beautiful tool. |
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| 23:37.18 | opposition | so ? thats just what im saying |
| 23:39.09 | opposition | rgr|android: you there ? |
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| 23:43.05 | cynicallemon | threadlock: simple answer no but, have a look at this froum thread - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=112364 |
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| 23:46.32 | threadlock | cynicallemon: ok, I'll se if I can do that before I reboot into the newly installed system |
| 23:46.41 | threadlock | I'd like to try Jessie with OpenRC |
| 23:47.33 | cynicallemon | threadlock: as they said, sysv-init will no doubt disappear at some stage anyway |
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| 23:48.52 | cynicallemon | threadlock: i guess future options for non-systemd will be gentoo, slackware and free/open/net bsd's |
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| 23:50.27 | neilthereildeil1 | hey guys |
| 23:50.38 | neilthereildeil1 | I am trying to set up a network bridge in debiuan |
| 23:50.45 | neilthereildeil1 | but im getting a lotta errors |
| 23:50.52 | neilthereildeil1 | can someone plesae help? |
| 23:52.18 | opposition | neilthereildeil1: yes |
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| 23:54.32 | threadlock | cynicallemon: even for Jessie? |
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| 23:55.11 | threadlock | I thought there would be options |
| 23:55.34 | threadlock | What will be the init system for kfreebsd (and hurd?)? |
| 23:55.42 | cynicallemon | threadlock: well its systemd from jessie onwards but sysv-init is still in the repos -but for how long? |
| 23:55.55 | threadlock | ..and non-i386/amd64 systems? |
| 23:56.08 | cynicallemon | to be honest im not totally sure |
| 23:56.57 | threadlock | so sysv-init and openrc (and others?) may be ripped from the repos before release? |
| 23:57.32 | nkuttler | don't we need sysv-init for kfreebsd? |
| 23:57.35 | cynicallemon | they will probably be there for some time i guess but they wont be there forever |
| 23:58.09 | cynicallemon | nkuttler: yes probably |
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| 23:58.47 | cynicallemon | do many people use kfreebsd? |
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| 23:59.33 | shay_shay | i counted exactly 7 last time I did a poll |
| 23:59.35 | threadlock | I doubt it, or define "many".. ;) |
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