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| 00:00.22 | lanodan | Hello, can I cancel removing a package (linux-image-3.12-1-amd64 fails to be removed and I don't care about this package) |
| 00:01.16 | abrotman | why does it fail ? |
| 00:01.49 | l_r | i am afraid about resizing the windows 8.1 partition |
| 00:02.03 | l_r | is the installer reliable? |
| 00:02.06 | l_r | are there risks? |
| 00:02.31 | abrotman | sure there are risks .. it's a computer |
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| 00:03.08 | l_r | i am talking about the installer not supporting well the ntfs or whatever windows uses |
| 00:03.47 | lanodan | I dont know about the errors it give me: http://paste.debian.net/117929/ |
| 00:04.55 | abrotman | l_r: I used gparted livecd to do win7 resizing |
| 00:05.37 | abrotman | lanodan: put an 'exit 0' on the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.12-1-amd64.postrm |
| 00:05.50 | l_r | abrotman, does gparted support uefi? |
| 00:06.00 | abrotman | FIIK, I don't have UEFI .. seems like something to try |
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| 00:06.16 | abrotman | backup important data, blah blah balh disclaimer |
| 00:06.20 | l_r | it's going to be more risky than i expected |
| 00:07.08 | cynicallemon | l_r: are you just wanting to try debian? |
| 00:07.58 | abrotman | no, install it |
| 00:08.33 | l_r | cynicallemon, no,i want to install it |
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| 00:09.04 | lanodan | abrotman: exit(0); actually because It was in perl but thanks anyway |
| 00:09.12 | abrotman | who would want to just *try* debian .. |
| 00:09.13 | cynicallemon | just think a no risk way to do it would have been via virtualbox |
| 00:09.18 | abrotman | lanodan: okay |
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| 00:09.43 | abrotman | cynicallemon: that's so .. safe .. takes all the fun out of it |
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| 00:10.25 | cynicallemon | yes i know this... :) |
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| 00:13.56 | Sl0vi | my postgresql-9.3 disappeared after ugrading in debian testing |
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| 00:14.24 | Sl0vi | i can only install 9.4, how do I get my databases back? |
| 00:14.44 | Densukke | hello |
| 00:14.51 | abrotman | did you look in the docs/ dir and see about upgrading your DBs? |
| 00:14.54 | Densukke | any fella here know about cvsweb? |
| 00:15.11 | Densukke | Im kinda stuck getting it set for rancid cvs |
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| 00:18.37 | Sl0vi | abrotman: where is the docs/ dir? |
| 00:19.38 | abrotman | Sl0vi: /usr/share/docs/postgresql* ? |
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| 00:22.27 | Sl0vi | ok, I found it. I need to use pg_upgradecluster, time to do some reading :/ |
| 00:23.22 | Sl0vi | I know this is testing, but killing something as major as a database server could have come with bigger warnings |
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| 00:24.44 | cynicallemon | Sl0vi: youre expected to guess |
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| 00:27.55 | abrotman | Sl0vi: you missed the part where it removed your packages? That wasn't warning enough? |
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| 00:30.04 | particleman72 | man i miss getting ripped on by abrotman |
| 00:32.59 | Sl0vi | it removes and adds packages all the time, doesn't really matter most of the time so I don't really pay much attention to it. |
| 00:33.29 | Sl0vi | easy to miss something important in the wall of text apt-get spits out |
| 00:33.40 | abrotman | Sl0vi: you should .. at least take a glance .. look for key packages |
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| 01:18.41 | edju | When jessie goes stable, will there be a choice btw sysvinit or systemd? (It's a simple question, yes or no - I don't mean to start a big argument.) |
| 01:19.49 | dalias | edju, well to some extent there's always a choice. you can install debian without using _any_ of its init system by just putting init=/whatever on the kernel command line |
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| 01:21.57 | edju | dalias, So the "whatevers" will be in the repositories? |
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| 01:22.10 | dalias | no idea |
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| 01:59.46 | inthl | what is the matter with cgroups in wheezy? I have no cgred binary nor the config files in /etc - I can't find anything in particular about a special setup |
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| 02:02.37 | somiaj | inthl: for the binary looks like you need the cgroups package. https://packages.debian.org/stable/cgroup-bin |
| 02:02.59 | somiaj | inthl: that should have the binaries and might create the /etc/ config files when installed, there are various other cgroups packages too. Have you installed them? |
| 02:03.00 | dvs | inthl: /usr/share/doc/cgroup-bin/examples/cgred.conf |
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| 02:03.42 | inthl | yes, I have, however e.g. cgred is missing. |
| 02:03.45 | inthl | dvs, give me a sec |
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| 02:04.07 | dvs | nope |
| 02:04.23 | dvs | /usr/share/doc/cgroup-bin/examples/cgred |
| 02:04.52 | somiaj | yea I don't see a cgred binary, but I do see the example doc dvs mentioned |
| 02:05.06 | inthl | same here as for nnow |
| 02:05.26 | somiaj | dosen't even seem jessie/sid has a cgred binary. |
| 02:05.51 | inthl | is that a bug? :/ |
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| 02:06.22 | inthl | also I wonder why the config files were not created. there is nothing in /etc/cg* |
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| 02:08.57 | inthl | uhm |
| 02:09.00 | inthl | any suggestions? |
| 02:10.00 | inthl | now I wonder, https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/cgroup-bin/filelist does not list any of these files |
| 02:10.49 | inthl | is cgrulesengd called cgred perhaps? |
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| 02:11.16 | inthl | according to a red hat file which is for controling the daemon it says |
| 02:11.25 | inthl | CGRED_BIN=$sbindir/cgrulesengd |
| 02:11.42 | dvs | inthl: Did you use the web browsers search function (Ctrl-F) |
| 02:12.00 | inthl | at the filelist? yes i did |
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| 02:13.45 | inthl | seems that the names are other than commonly used. but however, why are there no defaults? or why is that /usr/share/doc/cgroup-bin/examples/cgred copied over to /etc/init.d/ ? |
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| 02:39.03 | BenLue | hi ppls |
| 02:39.34 | inthl | hm, however, I am getting " -bash: blkio.throttle.read_bps_device: Permission denied" when trying to echo to it, e.g. "8:1 5242880" |
| 02:39.37 | inthl | is there something I am missing? |
| 02:39.38 | BenLue | its possible to configure bind with the domain s3root.ff3p? |
| 02:39.50 | inthl | also my kernel is custom for now, do I have to enable something there? |
| 02:39.58 | inthl | cgroups is mounted |
| 02:40.35 | abrotman | BenLue: yes, but the outside world won't care about it |
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| 02:41.12 | Densukke | hello anyone on? |
| 02:41.20 | themill | inthl: which user are you doing this as? |
| 02:41.40 | BenLue | abrotman iknow. I have playing with my config files! domain.local working fine but domain.ff3p isnt working |
| 02:42.18 | Densukke | if anyone know about this: I want to make a cosmetic change to the cvsweb homepage...anyone know how to do so? |
| 02:42.36 | BenLue | bind runs without errors but when im trying debian01.s3root.ff3p = Server not found |
| 02:43.37 | inthl | root of course |
| 02:44.20 | inthl | ow, wait a second |
| 02:44.35 | inthl | I took the name blkio.throttle.read_bps_device from a tutorial |
| 02:44.44 | inthl | but there is no such file |
| 02:45.19 | abrotman | BenLue: perhaps you'd want to ask #dns |
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| 02:45.39 | BenLue | abrotman thanks for information |
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| 02:49.37 | ctmjr | exit |
| 02:49.46 | dvs | !exit |
| 02:49.46 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
| 02:51.06 | tomivs_ | !exit |
| 02:51.06 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
| 02:51.12 | Densukke | hello |
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| 02:52.55 | supaplex | hahaaa dpkg is awesome. |
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| 03:11.42 | inthl | what could be reasons for "cgroup change of group failed" ? cgcreate -a root:root -t root:root -g cpuset,cpu:foo ...was created, cgexec -g cpu:foo ls ..fails |
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| 03:37.39 | mason- | I have a laptop on which I would like to disable the scroll wheel function of the mouse pad, but I don't want to disable the scroll wheel on my USB mouse. How would I go about doing this? |
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| 03:41.50 | centurion18 | HI PEOPLE |
| 03:41.54 | centurion18 | sorry |
| 03:41.57 | centurion18 | i need help |
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| 03:42.40 | centurion18 | a friend installed debian wheezy from the 3.7GB iso and it installed GNOME by default, now he installed KDE and want to remove completely GNOME, which packages should be removed? |
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| 03:47.03 | centurion18 | someone?? |
| 03:47.37 | BostonEnginerd | centurion18: http://andym3.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/quick-howto-remove-gnome-from-a-debian-install/ |
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| 03:51.11 | supaplex | I think gnome is a meta package. purge that, and all its buddies should go with it. |
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| 04:15.21 | centurion18 | anyway to execute kate from terminal with sudo privileges? |
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| 04:15.41 | centurion18 | it complains about |
| 04:15.42 | centurion18 | No protocol specified |
| 04:15.44 | centurion18 | kate: cannot connect to X server :0 |
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| 04:16.17 | themill | centurion18: you'd use kdesu or gksu (or their sudo equiavlents). You probably don't really want to run kate as root though... |
| 04:17.04 | centurion18 | yes, i need to edit sources.list |
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| 04:17.11 | centurion18 | and i want to do it in kate |
| 04:17.15 | centurion18 | but it is not working |
| 04:17.24 | centurion18 | i use nano |
| 04:17.36 | centurion18 | but a friend of mine is trying to do it in kate |
| 04:17.39 | themill | centurion18: If you want a clicky editor, for kde I'd suggest kwrite rather than kate. Otherwise yes, nano or vi are generally better choices |
| 04:17.54 | themill | kate's a great editor but not for quickly editing one file. |
| 04:18.03 | centurion18 | but it does not work with kdesu or gksu |
| 04:18.14 | themill | yes it does |
| 04:18.29 | BostonEnginerd | centurion18: Try exporting the DISPLAY variable to :0 |
| 04:18.40 | themill | gksu takes care of that |
| 04:19.11 | BostonEnginerd | I would just use vi though to make the quick edit. |
| 04:19.17 | themill | quite. |
| 04:19.45 | centurion18 | BostonEnginerd: what is the command? |
| 04:19.54 | themill | "gksu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list" and "gksudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list" both work fine. |
| 04:20.07 | themill | centurion18: I wouldn't teach someone to use vi just to edit their sources.list once. |
| 04:20.38 | Rusty1 | emacs instead? |
| 04:20.48 | Rusty1 | ducks |
| 04:20.53 | cynicallemon | nano is far easier |
| 04:21.03 | themill | tell them to boot with init=/usr/bin/emacs? |
| 04:21.07 | cynicallemon | slaps Rusty1 |
| 04:21.08 | centurion18 | some one can tell me the command? |
| 04:21.12 | themill | centurion18: for what? |
| 04:21.24 | BostonEnginerd | sudo DISPLAY=:0 kate |
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| 04:21.29 | themill | BostonEnginerd: no. |
| 04:21.33 | yids | hello |
| 04:22.05 | centurion18 | BostonEnginerd: that does not work |
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| 04:23.33 | rryoumaa | is this disk dying? http://sprunge.us/FgSD |
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| 04:24.21 | BostonEnginerd | centurion18: strange, it works here on my fedora box. I'm with cynicallemon, nano is the way to go. Running GUI programs as root isn't really a good practice. |
| 04:24.33 | BostonEnginerd | Good luck! i'm off to bed! |
| 04:24.40 | rryoumaa | nano is great for that |
| 04:26.16 | themill | BostonEnginerd: you can end up making your user's ~/.Xauthority owned by root doing that. sudo is also configured to eat environment variables and not do what you ask there, so that's going to fail on multiple levels. That's why gksu/gksudo/kdesu exist. |
| 04:27.08 | themill | (also, kate may well decide to just open things in an existing session over dbus because it's designed to be a "project" based editor and not just a single file text editor... the behaviour there could easily be not as desired) |
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| 04:42.28 | G_Known | Does anyone here knows how to use openvpn? |
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| 04:58.57 | nezZario | Hey |
| 04:59.17 | supaplex | hey you... |
| 04:59.23 | nezZario | Someone told me I can disable X11 startup with runlevels, I'm not sure that I understand how or if this information is correct |
| 04:59.58 | nezZario | Basically, I have a workstation setup here, but I want to use it as a headless server for a while, i.e. don't want any kind of graphical stuff starting up, just back to the basics |
| 05:00.17 | nezZario | Someone suggested runlevels might be what I need, but inittab says runlevel 2 at the top |
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| 05:03.47 | jmcnaught | nezZario: on Debian instead of changing the runlevel you would disable the display manager from running. If you're on Wheezy and using gdm3 (gnome's DM) the command to stop it from starting at boot would be "update-rc.d gdm3 disable". "service gdm3 stop" to stop it from running right now. |
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| 05:06.22 | nmschulte | What's a good way to run a my IRC bouncer on boot (znc)? The configuration lives in my home directory, it's intended to be run as a daemon as a user. |
| 05:07.29 | centurion18 | how do i format a usb stick and leave it unpartitioned? |
| 05:07.37 | centurion18 | from terminal |
| 05:08.10 | nmschulte | centurion18: you want a fresh partition table? |
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| 05:08.24 | centurion18 | with no partitions yes |
| 05:08.38 | centurion18 | nmschulte: what command to hit? |
| 05:08.49 | centurion18 | mkfs... or something like that? |
| 05:08.56 | nmschulte | centurion18: fdisk |
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| 05:09.09 | centurion18 | fdisk ... |
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| 05:09.41 | nmschulte | fdisk doesn't actually support it from the cmd line, you have to pass the keystrokes via stdin |
| 05:11.08 | trogdor_ | or parted |
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| 05:12.22 | nmschulte | centurion18: or sfdisk |
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| 05:14.54 | nf7 | Is there any way to disable keyboard and mouse wake? I want the computer to only wake from sleep when the power button is physically pressed. |
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| 05:15.19 | somiaj | nf7: I belive you will have to control that though your bios |
| 05:15.36 | nf7 | somiaj: Oh ok. Let me take a look. brb |
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| 05:25.24 | nf7 | So I looked through my UEFI BIOS to see if there was an option to disable wake on keyboard and mouse, and there wasn't unfortunately. It's a very new ASUS motherboard. The manual doesn't have anything either. Am I boned? |
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| 05:29.47 | gasull | I'm trying netisnst 64 from a USB drive and the installation fails to find "the CD-ROM". |
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| 05:43.08 | asterismo | hi people |
| 05:43.26 | asterismo | i cannot burn a dvd in KDE with k3b |
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| 05:43.34 | asterismo | does anyone knows why? |
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| 05:43.50 | asterismo | it says insert a compatible medium or so |
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| 05:47.35 | cousin_luigi | is running a custom version of debian on a miniserver. He now replaced the hardware and a switch to 64 bit would be warranted. Is there any way to switch arch in place? |
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| 05:51.16 | asterismo | anyone? |
| 05:51.25 | cousin_luigi | I wish. |
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| 06:11.13 | nezZario | jmcnaught: i'm using lightdm and xfce, ... it's more than just the display manager though |
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| 08:10.36 | hid3 | Hello everyone. My system is using 99% of CPU for 'wa'. I discovered that vsftpd process is hung. I tried to stop the process, do killall -9 vsftpd but nothing helps, it's still there and probably causes the cpu power burn. How do I kill that process? |
| 08:11.16 | hid3 | in `ps aux` it is being shown in brackets: [vsftpd] |
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| 08:16.04 | piranha93 | hi |
| 08:16.43 | piranha93 | I use debian wheezy with xfce |
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| 08:17.13 | ChrisH | hid3: can you please show a ps -efl on paste.debian.net? |
| 08:17.31 | piranha93 | I would like to know how I can move windows from one desktop to another |
| 08:17.58 | piranha93 | workspace 1,2,3,4 |
| 08:18.52 | OpenTokix | piranha93: right click on the title bar somtimes have menuitem "move to workspace X" |
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| 08:19.28 | piranha93 | OpenTokix, one way to do keyboard there? |
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| 08:20.13 | OpenTokix | piranha93: depends on your wm |
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| 08:20.29 | hid3 | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/aa524098/ |
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| 08:21.04 | piranha93 | OpenTokix, I can set up in any way? |
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| 08:21.49 | OpenTokix | piranha93: It depends on the window manager and psossible your desktop enviroment. - Look in settings for keyboard shortcuts. |
| 08:22.32 | piranha93 | OpenTokix, use xfce, I've looked but can not find anything about it |
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| 08:23.39 | OpenTokix | piranha93: ctrl + alt + home|end |
| 08:23.51 | OpenTokix | piranha93: when the window you want to move is active |
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| 08:24.58 | hid3 | ChrisH, you probably missed my paste: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/aa524098/ |
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| 08:35.51 | ChrisH | hid3: I did, my DSL reconnected. check lines 59,66,81 second column. There you see a D which means, process blocked in kernel. (details see man ps PROCESS STATE CODES) There is not much you can do here but reboot or find the cause why all ftpd's are stuck. |
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| 08:37.48 | laite^ | piranha93: check 'settings manager' -> 'window manager' -> 'keyboard' (or something like that, I'm not on xfce right now) |
| 08:38.19 | ChrisH | hid3: offline for abt. 1h |
| 08:39.33 | hid3 | OK, thanks. It seems I'd better prepare for a long(er) drive, as the machine is far away and I doubt it will be able to successfully reboot... |
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| 08:40.56 | ChrisH | hid3: no serial console? Then invest some time to find the cause before driving.. Good Luck |
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| 08:42.14 | nezZario | exit |
| 08:42.18 | nezZario | ...oops |
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| 08:44.53 | hid3 | ChrisH: it's actually an RPi system. Hugs up now and then. Surprisingly, `reboot -nf` worked and it booted up (this time..). Thanks!!! |
| 08:45.01 | hid3 | *Hungs |
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| 09:35.43 | piranha93 | scusate come installo java ? |
| 09:36.12 | petn-randall | !it |
| 09:36.12 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 09:42.06 | LAWNMOVER | your ASS is GRASS abrotman |
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| 09:45.19 | irgendwer4711 | hi, how to lookup compile options aof Bacula? |
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| 09:47.13 | irgendwer4711 | I cant find the debian/rules in source file. |
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| 09:48.32 | mintgreen | i've connected a Tiger pc camera via usb.how to get it working? |
| 09:48.34 | irgendwer4711 | oh my fauld, wrong tar ball |
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| 09:51.16 | irgendwer4711 | hm, I am looking gor LZO support for bacula, it should be compiled in, but no hint. |
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| 09:52.09 | petn-randall | irgendwer4711: AFAIR it's a option you set in the config file. Does that work for you? |
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| 09:52.45 | irgendwer4711 | petn-randall: you mean bacula config file? |
| 09:52.54 | petn-randall | irgendwer4711: yes. |
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| 09:53.43 | irgendwer4711 | petn-randall: no, this didnt work. somehow lzo support was remove later. Found this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734361 |
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| 10:06.00 | Zzeiss | If I've got a .deb file that I want to install, how do I tell apt-get to install it from my disk, not try to fetch it from some repo? |
| 10:06.17 | Zzeiss | (it's gnu apl_1.4, if that helps. It's trustworthy....) |
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| 10:09.16 | tkl2 | Hey there, i try to image an ISO to a usb-stick and usually i have used isohybrid to make it bootable after i have changed some little things to it. |
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| 10:10.38 | tkl2 | Unfortunately that does not work anymore and i do get an error like: isohybrid: webc25dusche22.iso: unexpected boot catalogue parameters |
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| 10:10.54 | tkl2 | Anyone who can help me with this? |
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| 10:12.05 | themill | Zzeiss: you'd install a local .deb with "dpkg -i foo.deb; apt-get -f install" (or with gdebi). Trustworthy doesn't necessarily mean compatible, of course. |
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| 10:26.42 | Guest94072 | hi i got the following message while running apt-get upgrade http://imagebin.ca/v/1YN9auqrhBO1 i have grub-efi installaed. will my machine not boot up if don't install grub-pc??? |
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| 10:28.24 | petn-randall | Guest94072: Yes, that's pretty much what the message says. |
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| 10:29.43 | TJ- | Guest94072: If the system already uses grub-efi then extlinux isn't needed |
| 10:29.54 | Guest94072 | petn-randall: is there any way i could check if grub-pc would work on machines with uefi, i am using a HP Desktop, had a very hard time getting Debian setup on it due the UEFI mumbo jumbo |
| 10:30.39 | Guest94072 | TJ-: does that mean that i need not do anything? |
| 10:30.54 | hundfred | offtopic question: if i want to build a proxy clamav-squid-cluster with 2 nodes, what's the best choice of software, shipped with a debian-distri to realize that? |
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| 10:32.19 | TJ- | Guest94072: The screenshot you've posted looks like a debconf message box giving information |
| 10:33.21 | Guest94072 | TJ-: yes, it came up while i was running apt-get update |
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| 10:34.18 | piranha93 | i need help to install java |
| 10:35.10 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell piranha93 about java |
| 10:35.43 | TJ- | Guest94072: As far as I can see that is simpl warning users that had extlinux as the bootloader, that it no longer performs that function and that some alternative would be needed, if not already installed. But you have grub-efi installed/configured so the message can be ignored |
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| 10:43.07 | Guest94072 | TJ-: silly me :) thanks |
| 10:43.11 | piranha93 | ChrisH, not work |
| 10:43.15 | l1ar | Hi. I've a little problem, with my special Haswell Audio aka Realtek ALC283, so all things work very well, but not internal microphone. I hear only random noise. What should to do? |
| 10:43.31 | l1ar | Hi. I've a little problem, with my special Haswell Audio aka Realtek ALC283, so all things work very well, but not internal microphone. I hear only random noise. What I should to do? |
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| 10:44.22 | ChrisH | !not work |
| 10:44.23 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 10:44.40 | SynrGy | l1ar: using wheezy? and are you on the stable kernel, or backports? |
| 10:45.05 | l1ar | Kernel from backports 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
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| 10:45.18 | l1ar | Yeah wheezy, the best stable solution |
| 10:45.28 | SynrGy | backports, ah. |
| 10:46.03 | piranha93 | ChrisH, there is not a mistake ... I do not read java browser |
| 10:46.12 | SynrGy | if you're already on the latest backports kernel, that's all i would've suggested anyway. beyond that, see if upstream (alsa) has any issues filed about your chipset. |
| 10:46.28 | SynrGy | ,kernels |
| 10:46.30 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.16-trunk-686-pae (3.16-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.15-2); jessie: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.15-2); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.14.15-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 10:46.52 | SynrGy | l1ar: 3.16 is being worked on. eventually it will hit testing, and then backports. it's conceivable that might include a fix. |
| 10:47.18 | l1ar | SynrGy: Do you suggest me, migration to more supported OS? Like Arch Linux? |
| 10:47.29 | SynrGy | no, because the kernel would be the same. |
| 10:47.40 | SynrGy | this is not a debian problem |
| 10:47.50 | SynrGy | you're welcome to try, however. |
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| 10:49.35 | l1ar | I guess I should test it not on production environment |
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| 10:50.57 | SynrGy | you could also ask at #alsa |
| 10:51.18 | l1ar | I asked there |
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| 10:51.23 | SynrGy | and? |
| 10:51.23 | l1ar | But nobody knows |
| 10:51.32 | SynrGy | so search alsa's bug tracker? |
| 10:51.38 | l1ar | Yeah |
| 10:52.00 | SynrGy | i think we've come to the end of what debian support community can do for you. this appears to be an upstream issue |
| 10:52.22 | SynrGy | it *may* be solved in 3.16 (be patient and wait for it to be uploaded, then migrate to testing, then be backported) |
| 10:52.28 | SynrGy | or may not |
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| 10:53.10 | SynrGy | meanwhile, use an external mic |
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| 10:53.36 | SynrGy | there are some nice usb & bluetooth headsets. i'd go for something like that. |
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| 10:54.02 | SynrGy | internal mic tends to be pretty crappy anyway, picking up too much machine/room noise |
| 10:54.14 | SynrGy | i think it's almost not worth trying to solve :p |
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| 10:54.26 | l1ar | Fist off, I check this shit on another linux distribution |
| 10:54.33 | l1ar | Modern :D |
| 10:54.42 | SynrGy | fair enough. i predict the same issue. 3.14 *is* modern |
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| 10:55.13 | SynrGy | but sure. go for it :) |
| 10:55.27 | l1ar | Yeah, let's go |
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| 11:03.54 | menace | is software licensed under EUPL free enough to be distributed by debian (and not in the nonfree section)? |
| 11:04.16 | zoidberg- | Does anyone here use a DrayTek Vigor 120 ADSL modem? I just recieved mine in the post today and on the side, it has 4 exposed pins (i assume this is an RS232 port) was quite surprised to see these poking out of the router allowing me to play with it from a lower level? Wondered if they all come with this or if mine is just a special one? :) |
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| 11:07.51 | _mel_ | i'm using debian wheezy xen dom0 and domU. after live migration i sometimes get this messages: kernel: [586533.675624] php5-fpm[15071] trap invalid opcode ip:7fc7f66e6b51 sp:7fff2d27a258 error:0 in libc-2.13.so (deleted)[7fc7f65b0000+182000]. is there anything i can do? |
| 11:07.58 | jelly | zoidberg-: could be JTAG |
| 11:08.38 | _mel_ | mysql crashes as wel |
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| 11:10.19 | martinus | Dear #debian, hopefully without starting a flame war can anyone tell me if there's any hope of avoiding systemd? |
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| 11:10.46 | zoidberg- | jelly: erm i thought JTAG was more than 4 pins |
| 11:11.16 | martinus | I feel like this right now: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iTebY_B5uzE/U-x0WBgJhDI/AAAAAAAAMso/0I1-KDufxsg/s1600/bd0fb252416206158627fb0b1bff9b4779dca13f.gif |
| 11:12.11 | martinus | zoidberg-: Doesn't it have six? |
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| 11:12.37 | themill | martinus: you'll get technical answers to technical questions. |
| 11:12.54 | themill | animated gifs are rarely part of technical questions... |
| 11:13.24 | zoidberg- | martinus: i think more it can have more |
| 11:13.28 | zoidberg- | i forget now |
| 11:13.52 | martinus | themill: I appreciate that but rarely have I seen a gif that illustrates 'the problem' (from my perspective) as well as that one. |
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| 11:14.42 | rgr | What problem do you have? |
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| 11:15.39 | themill | martinus: there's no technical problem illustrated there or described by you. If you have a technical problem, ask for assistance with a solution. |
| 11:16.01 | martinus | themill: Is there a debian discussion channel? |
| 11:16.24 | themill | no. And you'll find the only place where people are interested in still discussing init systems is /dev/null |
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| 11:17.32 | martinus | I seem to have annoyed you. That was not my intention. |
| 11:18.12 | themill | You did exactly what was required to achieve that end. |
| 11:18.36 | rgr | martinus: Im also puzzled. What problem? What doesnt work for you? I switched to systemd a while back and it "all just worked". |
| 11:18.38 | themill | We've endured over 12 months of this nonsense. If you have a bug report, then report it. |
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| 11:19.26 | babilen | martinus: To answer your question: Debian will switch to systemd as default init system and support for other init systemd (sysvinit if you *really* want to keep on using that) is being provided. You can, for example, rely on systemd-shim to provide the functionality that would normally be provided by systemd. |
| 11:19.53 | babilen | martinus: If you have a specific problem after switching to systemd then lets discuss that. |
| 11:20.01 | martinus | Cheers babilen. That was concise and constructive. |
| 11:20.37 | rgr | More so than that gif. Please, i would like to understand what you problem is? |
| 11:20.42 | babilen | I'd like to point out that systemd-shim is not ready yet and misses functionality (and will likely play catchup forever after) |
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| 11:22.15 | martinus | rgr: I don't believe I can discuss it here without a hostile response from themill. |
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| 11:23.11 | martinus | Please note that as a infrequent visitor to the channel I was unaware of it being limited to technical issues. |
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| 11:23.41 | SynrGy | martinus: i believe if you actually ask support questions and don't resort to hyperbole (yes, i think the gif is hyperbole, and unconstructive) you won't annoy the helpers. |
| 11:23.54 | SynrGy | and themill is not alone in being annoyed by your gif |
| 11:23.59 | babilen | martinus: The point is that "generic systemd bashing" is simply not welcome and we had more than enough of "oh dear, systemd is the evil!" nutters in here. Many people are convinced that systemd solves a lot of problem and is, by and large, a better choice than sysvinit (which is why it is being adopted as init system). I'd recommend to read the position statements of the various CTTE members if you are interested in the finer points of that. |
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| 11:24.51 | SynrGy | martinus: you think this is a *personal* issue with themill? it is not. learn to communicate your support questions concisely, and focused on the specific issues you're having, and you'll get a more positive response. |
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| 11:25.20 | babilen | martinus: There is simply no interest whatsoever in providing room for yet another pointless discussion. If you need support with something specific then ask about that. This is simply not the right channel for sharing your personal feelings about systemd or animated gifs. |
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| 11:26.52 | martinus | SynrGy: I will repeat that as an infrequent visitor to the channel I was unaware of the protocol expected here. I was polite, perhaps somewhat tongue in cheek but I don't think I did anything to earn so pointed a response. |
| 11:27.27 | babilen | "themill > We've endured over 12 months of this nonsense. If you have a bug report, then report it" pretty much summarises it |
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| 11:29.20 | martinus | babilen: Is there any point in again stating that as an infrequent visitor to the channel there was no way for me to know this? |
| 11:29.20 | jelly | martinus: that's pretty much what the previous hundred people doing the same thing thought! |
| 11:29.59 | babilen | martinus: The general protocol is: This channel is for specific support questions *only*. Everything else should be discussed somewhere else (e.g. #debian-offtopic). To illustrate that point: Problems with, say, starting a specific service after switching to systemd is perfectly fine while discussions about systemd and its merits are not. |
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| 11:31.56 | themill | martinus: I don't know of any channel where that wasn't trollbait. |
| 11:32.14 | martinus | babilen: That's a comprehensive response, thank you for taking the time. |
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| 11:32.44 | SynrGy | martinus: you *stated* that it was not your intent to start a flamewar, and then made an *emotional* appeal using a gif as an illustration. you complain about "not knowing protocol". surely you could not have been ignorant that resorting to such tactics would achieve exactly the opposite to your stated intent. |
| 11:33.32 | jelly | I'm not a racist, but |
| 11:33.42 | SynrGy | yes, exactly |
| 11:34.05 | themill | Anyway... moving on. |
| 11:34.09 | martinus | I believe you have read malintent where none existed. At worst I was being irreverent. |
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| 11:39.41 | hramrach | hello |
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| 11:40.15 | hramrach | how do I configure a network interface so it joins automagically to bridge whenever it appears |
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| 11:40.32 | hramrach | which means that I have no address for it but need to bring it up |
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| 11:41.05 | TJ- | hramrach: custom udev rule |
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| 11:54.33 | micw | hi |
| 11:54.47 | micw | i have added deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free to my sources |
| 11:55.03 | micw | normally i should now see virtualbox 4.3.x but i still see 4.1.x |
| 11:55.11 | micw | (i did apt-get update) |
| 11:55.40 | Stummi | micw, what does apt-cache policy virtualbox say? |
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| 11:55.43 | nkuttler | ,v virtualbox |
| 11:55.45 | judd | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+2; wheezy-security: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.14-dfsg-1~bpo70+1; sid/contrib: 4.3.14-dfsg-1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.14-dfsg-1 |
| 11:55.57 | nkuttler | micw: you probably want to read the instructions on that page |
| 11:56.41 | micw | ah, prio 100 (vs 500) |
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| 11:58.58 | piranha93 | I do not work on java chromium and even on google chrome, I tried to create links IcedTeaPlugin.so |
| 11:59.15 | piranha93 | but nothing |
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| 12:04.44 | Densukke | hello, got a problem with apache2 servername config |
| 12:05.02 | Densukke | i get: The ScriptAlias directive in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf at line 32 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier ScriptAlias. |
| 12:05.05 | Densukke | any ideas? |
| 12:05.27 | OpenTokix | Densukke: paste your 000-default.conf to some pastebin-servive |
| 12:05.35 | OpenTokix | Densukke: or atleast up until line 32 |
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| 12:07.04 | Densukke | yeap |
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| 12:10.29 | os_ | hi, i have some problem with hurd installing using (crosshurd): |
| 12:10.31 | os_ | Building dependency tree |
| 12:10.32 | os_ | Reading state information... Done |
| 12:10.34 | os_ | E: Unable to locate package libparted0debian1 |
| 12:10.35 | os_ | Failed to download the .deb's. |
| 12:10.40 | os_ | Help! |
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| 12:11.04 | Densukke | http://pastebin.com/VBF8xZx2 |
| 12:11.24 | Densukke | opentokix here is my conf |
| 12:11.41 | Densukke | it was working, but i tried to replace the 127.0.0.1 for a server name |
| 12:11.43 | Densukke | and i got that |
| 12:12.31 | OpenTokix | Densukke: move the scriptalias directive, inside your virtualhost |
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| 12:12.37 | OpenTokix | no |
| 12:12.41 | OpenTokix | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.45 | OpenTokix | What does this file contain? |
| 12:13.00 | Densukke | let me see |
| 12:14.26 | mrtnt | Am I correct that traffic-control(tc) takes place before netfilter for incoming traffic and after netfilter for outgoing traffic? |
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| 12:16.00 | frostschutz | mrtnt, http://www.docum.org/docum.org/kptd/ |
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| 12:16.53 | Densukke | http://pastebin.com/cXbciemN |
| 12:17.02 | Densukke | opentokix that what it contains |
| 12:17.23 | OpenTokix | Densukke: |
| 12:17.23 | OpenTokix | <IfDefine ENABLE_USR_LIB_CGI_BIN> |
| 12:17.27 | OpenTokix | there is your overlap |
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| 12:18.20 | mrtnt | frostschutz: thanks! |
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| 12:18.34 | anon293 | How do you all remotely use your Linux boxes? |
| 12:18.37 | anon293 | VNC through an SSH tunnel? |
| 12:18.39 | OpenTokix | anon293: ssh |
| 12:18.40 | OpenTokix | only |
| 12:19.11 | Densukke | do i comment that line? |
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| 12:19.19 | mrtnt | frostschutz: I guess the best way to police or shape traffic is to use tc instead on netfilter? |
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| 12:19.32 | Densukke | oh i see |
| 12:19.36 | OpenTokix | Densukke: I think you should comment the include line |
| 12:19.40 | OpenTokix | Densukke: in the main config |
| 12:19.41 | Densukke | the statment is dobled |
| 12:20.10 | Densukke | not in the serve-cgi-bin? |
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| 12:21.23 | OpenTokix | Densukke: hard to say what you want to accomplish - but I would start by removing the generic include of the cgi-bin-conf |
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| 12:21.56 | Densukke | I had setup cvsweb to pull up rancid cvs repos |
| 12:22.46 | Densukke | that was working and I only modified the servername , so it dont look like 127.0.0.1 |
| 12:22.51 | Densukke | and thats where it came up |
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| 12:26.38 | Densukke | nevremind opentokix i got that fixed...but im still unable to get the 127.0.0.1 replaced by the servername |
| 12:26.41 | Densukke | any hrelp? |
| 12:27.24 | Densukke | or anyone for that matter? |
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| 12:28.13 | OpenTokix | Densukke: the servername 127.0.0.1 is just a warning, will not really affect your operation |
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| 12:28.47 | Densukke | i know but i wanted to swich from the localhost ip to a servername |
| 12:28.59 | Densukke | or the ip of the server to be accesible through it |
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| 12:29.13 | OpenTokix | Densukke: you listen on all interfaces already, so it should work now |
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| 12:30.59 | Densukke | how so? if I type the ip of the server it should be reachable? |
| 12:31.41 | OpenTokix | Densukke: yes |
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| 12:46.51 | edoardo | hello |
| 12:47.02 | edoardo | i have the jessie-CD-1 iso |
| 12:47.12 | edoardo | is it possible to install Debian without an internet connection? |
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| 12:47.28 | edoardo | the installer always complains that it can't find any wireless networks |
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| 12:56.44 | _mel_ | can i disable cpu features like sse4 on boot? |
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| 12:57.49 | Stummi | _mel_, I don't know of sure, but I would guess if its possible, than just in your bios/efi settings |
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| 12:59.58 | _mel_ | ok |
| 13:00.03 | iveevue | _mel_, Why do you want to? |
| 13:00.24 | fattratt | is away: bbl |
| 13:00.51 | _mel_ | i think my xen live migration between two server maybe crashes because of diferrent cpu version (with and withoud sse4) |
| 13:01.07 | iveevue | Ah |
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| 13:02.15 | _mel_ | i search for this error: "sp:7fff2d277d98 error:0 in libc-2.13.so (deleted)" and found something about avx wich is an other cpu extension. so i thought disable sse4 on one processort might help to prevent the crash |
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| 13:04.15 | jelly | _mel_: can't xen can limit exposed cpu features to domUs without having to mess with what dom0 sees? esx does that. |
| 13:04.29 | _mel_ | i Don't know |
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| 13:04.40 | _mel_ | but that would be good |
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| 13:05.34 | jelly | when you find out how that's done, you'll probably have to shutdown and restart vms to boot up with less capable cpu |
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| 13:06.43 | _mel_ | yes. i understand |
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| 13:13.29 | LRN | is there a way to completely reset pam? |
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| 13:13.58 | LRN | i've tried to integrate it with LDAP, and it didn't go well, now i can't even sudo |
| 13:14.38 | LRN | tried pam-auth-update, didn't help |
| 13:14.38 | jelly | LRN: if you do not have backups of /etc/pam.d/ contents, look at what this recipe can do for you: /msg dpkg confnew |
| 13:14.57 | jelly | LRN: can you su - ? |
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| 13:15.15 | LRN | no |
| 13:15.33 | jelly | LRN: can you... log in as root at the console? |
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| 13:15.58 | LRN | i have an ssh session opened, and that session still has unexpired sudo powers, so i can sudo there |
| 13:16.17 | jelly | LRN: open a root shell there, sudo -i |
| 13:16.41 | LRN | ok |
| 13:17.21 | avshalom | on debian hurd, how does one display the IP address (ifconfig is not available) |
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| 13:17.41 | LRN | avshalom, ip addr show |
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| 13:18.07 | jelly | LRN: you can now look at which packages contain the files you have changed, and carefully apply the confnew recipe to those. Be careful as that will also reset their other config files, not just pam |
| 13:18.09 | avshalom | LRN: hmmm no ip |
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| 13:18.48 | jelly | !hurd |
| 13:18.48 | dpkg | GNU Hurd (<HIRD> of Unix-Replacing Daemons) is a POSIX-compatible collection of servers which run on the Mach microkernel. It is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. http://hurd.gnu.org/ #hurd on irc.freenode.net. For the Debian GNU/Hurd port (not an official Debian release), see http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ and http://bits.debian.org/2013/05/debian-gnu-hurd-wheezy.html #debian-hurd on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:18.58 | jelly | avshalom: try that channel, #debian-hurd on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:19.17 | avshalom | mmkay thanks |
| 13:19.20 | LRN | avshalom, it comes with the iproute2 package. If it's not in Hurd, then ask on #debian-hurd |
| 13:19.29 | jelly | LRN: iproute2 is Linux only. |
| 13:19.32 | LRN | ok |
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| 13:19.54 | avshalom | aww, nobody is home on debian-hurd |
| 13:20.50 | jelly | avshalom: are you on the right irc network? |
| 13:21.19 | avshalom | jelly: i think so, i only use freenode |
| 13:21.37 | avshalom | jelly: i just asked at #hurd, that's has people |
| 13:21.46 | jelly | avshalom: again, the channel is on irc.oftc.net and not freenode. |
| 13:21.51 | avshalom | oh |
| 13:22.01 | avshalom | sorry about this |
| 13:22.06 | jelly | no problem |
| 13:22.43 | jelly | noone ever reads that "on irc.oftc.net" part nor acknowledges they did not understand it |
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| 13:23.45 | avshalom | jelly: seems an exception |
| 13:23.53 | jelly | hah, their topic redirects users back to... | User support in #hurd on irc.freenode.net | |
| 13:24.05 | avshalom | i mean "everything" is on freenode |
| 13:24.29 | jelly | most #debian* channels are on OFTC. OFTC is, actually, what irc.debian.org points to |
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| 13:27.40 | ch077179 | which package holds the android sdk? |
| 13:28.24 | Brigo | ch077179, apt-cache search android sdk |
| 13:28.49 | ch077179 | Brigo, returns nothing |
| 13:28.57 | ch077179 | (did that before I asked here) |
| 13:28.58 | Brigo | mmm |
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| 13:29.15 | Brigo | i am in jessie, and you in wheezy, righ? |
| 13:29.31 | ch077179 | my version is 7.5 |
| 13:29.44 | Brigo | ,v libandroidsdk-sdklib-java |
| 13:29.45 | judd | Package: libandroidsdk-sdklib-java on i386 -- jessie: 22.2+git20130830~92d25d6-1; sid: 22.2+git20130830~92d25d6-1 |
| 13:30.04 | Brigo | ch077179, upgrade it, there is a 7.6. |
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| 13:30.22 | Brigo | there is no package in wheezy, not backports, sorry. |
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| 13:30.42 | ch077179 | I see, thanks |
| 13:31.10 | themill | ch077179: do you actually mean android sdk or android-tools btw? (lots get that mixed up) |
| 13:31.22 | Brigo | ch077179, you can try simple sid backport technique |
| 13:31.37 | ch077179 | according this guide (http://www.all-things-android.com/content/performing-full-backup-android-device) I need the android sdk |
| 13:31.43 | Brigo | !tell ch077179 about ssb |
| 13:32.14 | Brigo | ch077179, what are you trying to achieve? |
| 13:32.24 | ch077179 | Brigo, what's that sid backport technique? |
| 13:32.40 | ch077179 | ok, got it |
| 13:32.41 | Brigo | i hope dpkg toll you in a private message |
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| 13:32.59 | Brigo | it is a wise bot :) |
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| 13:34.11 | ch077179 | Brigo, I want to fully back up my phone |
| 13:34.19 | ch077179 | to my desktop |
| 13:34.41 | Brigo | and the backups app are not enought? |
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| 13:35.23 | ch077179 | the ones I checked out only back up files, not settings, etc |
| 13:35.27 | themill | doesn't adb do that? |
| 13:35.42 | ch077179 | the guide is about adb |
| 13:35.53 | ch077179 | it requires me to install the android sdk |
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| 13:36.07 | themill | so adb is in android-tools-adb not the android sdk packages |
| 13:36.18 | Brigo | ,v |
| 13:36.19 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and i386 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
| 13:36.21 | Brigo | ,v android-tools-adb |
| 13:36.22 | judd | Package: android-tools-adb on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 4.2.2+git20130529-3~bpo70+1; sid: 4.2.2+git20130529-3; jessie: 4.2.2+git20130529-3 |
| 13:36.43 | ch077179 | ok |
| 13:36.46 | Brigo | installable from backpors for you, ch077179 :) |
| 13:36.52 | ch077179 | I'll try that first and see if it does the job |
| 13:36.59 | ch077179 | awesome :) |
| 13:37.29 | Brigo | ch077179, i am using oanbackup, it save config too, as far as it can. |
| 13:37.33 | ch077179 | I run my debian install on an old t61. Is there anything I should consider before upgrading to 7.6? |
| 13:37.41 | Brigo | ch077179, are you root in the phone? |
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| 13:38.14 | ch077179 | I don't think so. I haven't tampered with it |
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| 13:39.25 | Brigo | ch077179, not sure, 7.6 have few changes, but there is a changelog somewhere :) |
| 13:39.49 | ch077179 | android-tools-adb is not in the repositories I have active |
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| 13:40.23 | Brigo | a lot of things cannot be backed up if you are not root |
| 13:40.33 | Brigo | ch077179, so you have to add backports |
| 13:40.45 | Brigo | !tell ch077179 about wheezy backports |
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| 13:41.13 | ch077179 | thank you |
| 13:41.17 | Brigo | you have to add a line in your sources.list |
| 13:41.34 | Brigo | http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main |
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| 13:41.55 | Brigo | apt-get update && apt-get install android-tools-adb |
| 13:42.04 | ch077179 | how do I ask the bot things? |
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| 13:42.17 | streulma | hello |
| 13:42.17 | Brigo | should suffice :) |
| 13:42.31 | Brigo | ch077179, /msg dpkg <tag> |
| 13:42.42 | ch077179 | thanks |
| 13:42.44 | Brigo | or /query dpkg for a new private window |
| 13:42.53 | Brigo | you are wellcome :) |
| 13:43.28 | streulma | var cache and tmp are deleted how can I recreate on reboot |
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| 13:43.39 | streulma | is there a way to set on tmpfs ? |
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| 13:45.22 | Brigo | streulma, /var /var/cache and /tmp ? |
| 13:45.33 | streulma | Brigo yes |
| 13:45.50 | streulma | I mean, I make a backup of VPS, I restore, and those dirs are deleted |
| 13:46.07 | streulma | I want to tell the server to recreate this on boot and rebuild debconf |
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| 13:46.54 | Brigo | streulma, i understand you, but the date for recreating dpkg database was in /var/lib |
| 13:46.59 | Brigo | for example. |
| 13:47.11 | streulma | var lib is intact Brigo |
| 13:47.16 | Brigo | there are a lot of important information in /var |
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| 13:47.23 | Brigo | streulma, so /var is not deleted |
| 13:47.29 | streulma | no |
| 13:47.35 | streulma | only the whole cache |
| 13:47.48 | Brigo | only /var/cache ? |
| 13:47.54 | Brigo | not /var and /tmp? |
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| 13:48.01 | streulma | Brigo, tmp also |
| 13:48.17 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.29 | streulma | I cannot type / here |
| 13:48.33 | streulma | tmp |
| 13:48.55 | Brigo | streulma, ok |
| 13:49.03 | Brigo | but you just write it :) |
| 13:49.14 | streulma | lol |
| 13:49.18 | Stummi | streulma, type //something if you want to start an irc-message with / |
| 13:49.20 | streulma | not /tmp |
| 13:49.42 | streulma | Brigo, can I run a script on boot? |
| 13:50.56 | Brigo | yes you can, you only have to put it in /etc/rcS.d/ |
| 13:51.14 | Brigo | there is a README there. |
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| 13:52.09 | Brigo | streulma, the apt package cache is rebuilding with apt-get update |
| 13:52.13 | streulma | but the dirs in //var/cache |
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| 13:52.35 | streulma | debconf also stuck |
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| 13:54.03 | Brigo | streulma, i guess you can reconfigure defconf database rebuild the configuration step. |
| 13:54.15 | Brigo | you could try dpkg-reconfigure -a |
| 13:54.51 | Brigo | which will try to reconfigure all packages |
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| 14:14.36 | Viruser | Hi. anyone can help me? How can i add a iso to apt repository? |
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| 14:15.43 | babilen | Viruser: You might be looking for apt-cdrom, but then what do you mean by "add a iso to apt repository" exactly? |
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| 14:17.06 | BlueEagle | Viruser: man sources.list |
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| 14:17.44 | Viruser | babilen: Well, i have an iso to debian install disk 1. I need to install wpasupplicant from it so i can connect to internet. I try "apt-cdrom -d=/mnt/iso add". It says repeat this with rest of the cds. And sources.list doesnt get updated |
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| 14:19.54 | babilen | Viruser: And you mounted the iso to /mnt/iso already? |
| 14:19.54 | Densukke | hello |
| 14:20.13 | Viruser | babilen: Yes ofcourse. ls shows the files in it |
| 14:20.14 | babilen | Viruser: You would want "apt-cdrom -m -d=/mnt/iso add" in that case IIRC |
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| 14:21.06 | Densukke | anyone has any tut or program under debian to modify the perl: cvsweb homepage? |
| 14:21.22 | Tinned_Tuna | Evening. I've got a package which I'd like to build from source with some different build flags. I got the source with apt-get source <pkg_name>, and I can see the flags that I want to set in the configure script, and it talks about a command line flag (--with-fastcgi), but I can't see where I would look to *set* that before I build the package. |
| 14:21.35 | Viruser | babilen: Still, apt-cdrom says "Repeat this process with the rest of the cds in your set." and nothing happens |
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| 14:22.04 | Tinned_Tuna | dpkg-buildpackage just rejects the commandline, and I can't see from https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html where I might be looking |
| 14:22.16 | babilen | Viruser: I haven't touched apt-cdrom in many years, let me check |
| 14:23.24 | Densukke | bump |
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| 14:23.56 | DanDare | Tinned_Tuna, its not a option to be parsed to the configure stage? './configure --with-fastcgi' |
| 14:24.05 | jelly | Tinned_Tuna: which package is it? |
| 14:24.14 | babilen | Viruser: Could you paste the output of all those commands to http://paste.debian.net please? |
| 14:24.37 | babilen | (and your commands, starting with mounting of the image) |
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| 14:25.07 | Viruser | babilen: Well.. I suppose i could.. type them all. |
| 14:25.19 | Tinned_Tuna | jelly: libapache2-mod-shib2 |
| 14:25.27 | Tinned_Tuna | DanDare: oo, it might be :-) |
| 14:25.39 | babilen | Viruser: Ah, right. You are not online. :) |
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| 14:25.58 | Densukke | anyone has any tut or program under debian to modify the perl: cvsweb homepage? |
| 14:26.39 | DanDare | Tinned_Tuna, I guess you need to point that to the folder where fast cgi files are installed, like '--with-fastcgi=/usr/local' but Im not sure ... |
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| 14:26.56 | babilen | Viruser: I've just done what you said you did and it works without a problem. That is I ran (as root): "mount -o loop /path/to/debian.iso /mnt/foo" and then "apt-cdrom -m -d=/mnt/foo add" and it completed that and wrote a new sources.list with a suitable entry for that Image. |
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| 14:28.18 | babilen | Viruser: Can you please elaborate on what you mean exactly by "nothing happens" ? |
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| 14:28.44 | Tinned_Tuna | DanDare: thanks :-) |
| 14:28.51 | jelly | Tinned_Tuna: well, there's dh_auto_configure line in debian/rules that seems like a place where one might plug in some extra options for ./configure |
| 14:28.52 | Iridos | Densukke, not as such... but any debian-specific documentation on what may be different from a vanilla cvsweb you'll find in /usr/share/doc/cvsweb/README.Debian (and looking there, there seems to be at least an example-config file under "examples" in that directory) |
| 14:28.54 | Tinned_Tuna | DanDare: plan is to build a .deb that we can deploy to the servers |
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| 14:29.01 | babilen | also wonders why you didn't connect to your wifi from the installer as it would have configured your wifi, Viruser |
| 14:29.05 | Viruser | babilen: Well apt-cdrom's output is exactly "Repeat this process with rest of the CDs in your set." and sources.list is not updated |
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| 14:29.14 | babilen | Viruser: Nothing else? |
| 14:29.15 | jelly | Tinned_Tuna: read /msg dpkg package rebuild |
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| 14:29.33 | DanDare | Tinned_Tuna, I see. You might like 'checkinstall' for the .deb creation |
| 14:29.59 | Viruser | babilen: nope. Also, i couldn't configure internet at the install phase since it didnt have the non free firmware |
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| 14:30.50 | Viruser | babilen: I downloaded the firmware and copied it to system. What makes me wonder is why wpasupplicant is installed but it's dependacies aren't. |
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| 14:31.09 | babilen | Viruser: http://paste.debian.net/118005/ this is what I did and what I see |
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| 14:31.29 | Tinned_Tuna | jelly: that's actually a far more helpful bit of text than the web pages, I think! |
| 14:31.56 | babilen | Viruser: The installer should ask you to provide firmware. You would just skip that step and it should have loaded your firmware. (assuming your adapter is supported by the wheezy kernel) |
| 14:32.04 | jelly | Tinned_Tuna: it has to fit in irc' 300 or so characters :-) |
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| 14:33.22 | Viruser | babilen: Well.. i did exactly like that too. maybe my image is corrupt. And nope unfortunately my wifi wont work without firmware. and what's worse i didn't install a de i guess it would have installed the needed things if i just installed gnome |
| 14:33.43 | babilen | Viruser: Well, that is if you used the image with firmware -- /msg dpkg firmware image -- or provided the firmware .debs on the second partition (if installing from usb) or on a usb stick (if installing from cd) |
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| 14:34.35 | Tinned_Tuna | jelly: well then, it's high-density and very useful. It has my (fairly meaningless) seal of approval :-) |
| 14:34.40 | babilen | Viruser: So, lets start a bit earlier. Which wifi adapter do you have? (pciid at the end of "lspci -nn|grep -i network") and which image did you install from? |
| 14:35.29 | Viruser | babilen: It's an intel centrino wireless-n 2230. It definitely needs a firmware |
| 14:35.38 | Viruser | non-free firmware i mean |
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| 14:36.07 | jelly | did not expected a seal from tuna |
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| 14:36.56 | sh00p | So I'm starting a daemon-like application from rc.local (i.e. it's not ever supposed to exit). This inhibits my consoles from launching. So now I'm putting a & behind the launching of my app |
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| 14:37.18 | sh00p | Now I have consoles back, but the printout from the daemon on tty1 get's strange newline/tabindentation |
| 14:37.22 | petn-randall | sh00p: Your application isn't forking into the background then. |
| 14:37.23 | babilen | Viruser: No pciid? |
| 14:37.36 | sh00p | petn-randall, it is now |
| 14:37.43 | sh00p | petn-randall, I put the & there |
| 14:38.04 | sh00p | but now the printout is all fubar |
| 14:38.07 | petn-randall | sh00p: No, it'll still direct output to STDOUT/STDERR on that console, that's not the proper way to fix it. |
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| 14:38.37 | petn-randall | sh00p: It also probably has STDIN still attached to that tty somewhere, you'd have to check. |
| 14:38.39 | Viruser | babilen: No 8086:0887 |
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| 14:38.48 | Viruser | I mean yes* |
| 14:38.52 | babilen | thanks |
| 14:38.56 | sh00p | petn-randall, what do you suggest? inittab? |
| 14:39.10 | Densukke | anyone has any tut or program under debian to modify the perl: cvsweb homepage? |
| 14:39.13 | Densukke | anyone? |
| 14:39.37 | babilen | Viruser: Yeah, that one is supported by the kernel and needs firmware. fwiw, you should be able to install using the firmware image and/or provide firwmare during the installation. Which image did you use? |
| 14:39.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell Viruser -about firmware image |
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| 14:40.02 | babilen | dpkg: tell Viruser -about installer image |
| 14:40.06 | DanDare | sh00p, you can redirect all the output from that script to /dev/null or to a log file to avoid it being displayed on standard output |
| 14:40.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell Viruser -about installer firmware |
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| 14:40.57 | Viruser | babilen: Well. i used the official cd-1 image. which doesn't come with nonfree stuff |
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| 14:41.07 | sh00p | DanDare, well I sort of like having it there |
| 14:41.13 | sh00p | but I'dl ike the newlines to be propwer |
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| 14:41.18 | sh00p | omg spelling... |
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| 14:41.26 | sh00p | well I'm putting it in inittab, thanks anyway |
| 14:41.34 | babilen | Viruser: Not sure what the best option is, but you will need to install the firmware-iwlwifi package on your system. A tar.gz/zip of all firmware packages can be downloaded from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ |
| 14:41.43 | quinso | Where can I read about reasons why debian team decided to for and rebrand firefox and create iceweasel? |
| 14:41.44 | babilen | Viruser: Did you install from USB or CD? |
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| 14:42.20 | Viruser | babilen: I already installed the firmware. the hardware is working. i just don't have any daemon to make it connect anywhere. I installed from usb |
| 14:42.56 | blackjack | is debian popular in russia? |
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| 14:43.25 | babilen | Viruser: Okay, for next time: Either use the firmware image or unpack the firmware.tar.gz file to the *second* partition on the USB stick on which you manually created a suitable filesystem (e.g. vfat) |
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| 14:43.35 | l1ar | babilen: We don't know :( |
| 14:43.37 | quinso | blackjack: I am from Russia and I have no idea how anyonce could know that |
| 14:43.40 | babilen | Viruser: What are you missing now for making it work? |
| 14:43.46 | babilen | l1ar: shush |
| 14:44.07 | l1ar | babilen: What's with you? |
| 14:44.27 | oobe | wonder if you could make a geo profile of mirrors hit for apt sources |
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| 14:44.33 | babilen | l1ar: I find random comments such as "babilen: We don't know :(" distracting |
| 14:44.38 | blackjack | quinso: coz its in the news that theres so much russian hacker today. i might be thinking maybe they are using debian as well? lol |
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| 14:45.17 | Viruser- | got a dc. |
| 14:45.48 | petn-randall | blackjack: Hackers most of time use axes. Sometimes chainsaws. |
| 14:45.49 | l1ar | babilen: Nonsesne |
| 14:45.54 | oobe | blackjack, the russian hackers that get in the news are not necessarily that computer skill orientated but more the kind that simple do it for money as a means to an end |
| 14:45.58 | quinso | blackjack: I bet you read about a lot of russian hacker on some retarded news site on which journalists have no idea what they are talking about (like in 90% of nowadays news) |
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| 14:47.10 | oobe | its scary how much stuff is way to easy for people to do anyone who knows anything knows that watching a youtube tutiorial on how to type ./script doesnt make you a hacker |
| 14:47.10 | blackjack | how are you sure about that oobe? Arent they the high end elite ones ? |
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| 14:47.28 | quinso | blackjack: also if you mean hacking as in breaking computer security, there is a distro special for that - kali linux |
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| 14:47.37 | blackjack | not alot quinso just today. coz its on the headline news. |
| 14:47.39 | oobe | blackjack, your now just talking about perception |
| 14:47.42 | babilen | l1ar: Just drop it, okay? I am perfectly capable to decide for myself what *I* find distracting and what I don't find distracting. So please don't highlight me with random stuff for no reason. |
| 14:47.52 | blackjack | i usually dont read news by the way. mostly pr0n alot. lol |
| 14:47.54 | quinso | blackjack: haven't seen that news. Can you give me a link? |
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| 14:48.38 | oobe | most people who get into ID theft etc. dont really know much of anything they just read posts on forums and put together other peoples work till it fits their need |
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| 14:48.45 | oobe | I wouldnt call it hacking but the media does |
| 14:48.48 | babilen | Viruser: My last question was: "What are you missing now for making it work?" |
| 14:49.06 | Viruser | babilen: wpa_supplicant. and it's dependacies |
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| 14:50.21 | oobe | when I say they dont know much I dont mean they dont know anything just their aim and skill level is limited only to what they need to know |
| 14:50.29 | oobe | I wouldnt call that a hacker at all |
| 14:50.49 | oobe | you could train a low level help desk operator to do the same thing in 2 weeks |
| 14:51.32 | babilen | Viruser: I really wonder why you cannot add your image with apt-cdrom ... add. You really did it exactly like what I showed earlier? I guess another option is to manually download the packages (or use them in /mnt/iso/pool/main/w/wpa/wpasupplicant_1.0-3+b2_amd64.deb) and install them manually with "dpkg -i /path/to/the/foo.deb" |
| 14:52.04 | oobe | babilen, why dont u make a custom initrd? |
| 14:52.09 | babilen | s/them/those/ |
| 14:52.43 | Viruser | babilen: Well i guess manually installing the with dpkg would work then. i don't need the iso after connecting to internet anyway. Thanks for help |
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| 14:53.25 | oobe | also Viruser check out persistant mode for iso images |
| 14:53.45 | oobe | this would allow you to install into the sqaushfs and save the changes on reboots |
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| 14:55.13 | babilen | oobe: That doesn't really apply in this case, does it? |
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| 14:55.39 | oobe | babilen, I am uncertain just know he wanted to run from usb |
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| 14:56.25 | Viruser | oobe: Actually, i installed the distro on my laptop (hard disk), Just couldn't make the wifi work |
| 14:56.30 | babilen | oobe: That's not the case at all. Viruser just installed Debian on his/her harddrive and wants to bring the system online. For that packages from the ISO image are needed and (s)he installed from USB. |
| 14:56.40 | oobe | I assume if he wants to boot a minimal usb with network support to do an network install then no the latter would not apply however the custom initrd would allow you to add modules |
| 14:56.56 | oobe | ah ok |
| 14:57.01 | oobe | yea ok got it |
| 14:57.08 | oobe | sorry I make assumptions |
| 14:57.53 | babilen | np :) |
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| 15:00.12 | yyttr3 | I'm on a remote server and I can't run vi: "Screen: Unknown terminal type. Visual needs accessible cursor or upline capabilities." Anyone know what this problem is? |
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| 15:00.48 | bhuddah | yyttr3: what's the value of your terminal variable? |
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| 15:02.13 | yyttr3 | Nevermind: Export TERM=xterm. |
| 15:02.23 | yyttr3 | Thank you. |
| 15:03.25 | jelly | yyttr3: "screen" with all lowercase ought to have worked as well |
| 15:03.25 | oobe | very efficient |
| 15:04.05 | jelly | unless the remote machine is not Debian and misses terminfo for screen by default |
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| 15:07.56 | Densukke | anyone has any tut or program under debian to modify the perl: cvsweb homepage? |
| 15:09.58 | oobe | lol k lined |
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| 15:11.29 | supaplex | http://paste.debian.net/118020/ not sure why I only get one instace of line 4 (line 7), but if I comment out 34-37, I see line 4 display lines 7-12. |
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| 15:12.04 | supaplex | for whatever reason the while do loop doesn't continue. |
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| 15:18.27 | Viruser | babilen: haha, i'm sorry to annoy you again. So, i manually installed wpasupplicant and it's dependacies. It connects fine, But how can i get an ip from dhcp? |
| 15:18.30 | jelly | supaplex: you could run the script as "sh -x ./go-rbackup01.sh" or sh -vx ... |
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| 15:21.28 | supaplex | http://paste.debian.net/118021/ |
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| 15:23.19 | babilen | Viruser: "dhclient $INTERFACE" should do it? Or read https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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| 15:24.54 | Viruser | babilen: That did it. Now i am connected. thanks. You are my hero! |
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| 15:27.50 | ChrisH | supaplex: I am not able to understand this script, so my recommendation is to split these | \ lines into single smaller and understandable lines. There you can add some debug echo $VARIABLE to understand whats going on. |
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| 15:28.00 | oobe | babilen, our accounts on free node are only a few weeks apart |
| 15:28.07 | oobe | from the date registered |
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| 15:29.30 | supaplex | ChrisH: I rewrote it slightly. seems to be a bad interaction of read. http://paste.debian.net/118022/ |
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| 15:32.39 | ChrisH | supaplex: replace line 27 with "while read fs" and line 32 with done < rbackup01 should reduce the number of forks by one |
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| 15:36.09 | supaplex | ChrisH: ok. when I ommit the ssh ... ls -1 subshel, the rest of it works. |
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| 15:39.50 | supaplex | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/118025/ eg, killing line 19 allows the other filesystems to be used (but I lose --link=dest logic) |
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| 15:46.17 | supaplex | I change !/bin/sh to !/bin/bash, and I get the same result. it's something about ssh. I change ssh to echo, and all the rest work. wtf. |
| 15:47.15 | supaplex | ahh ssh -n maybe. |
| 15:47.38 | ChrisH | supaplex: Sadly I need to leave now... Will work sometime. If its still not working tomorrow I can check some of my sripts doing similar ssh gathering stuff |
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| 15:49.35 | supaplex | ChrisH: looks like ssh vs ssh -n was the culprit. |
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| 15:52.20 | streulma | now I get dpkg-preconfigure unable to re-open stdin |
| 15:52.24 | streulma | how do I fix ? |
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| 15:58.15 | bigorangemachine | Could I PM someone with a permissions issue between SFTP (ssh filezilla) and my webserver (Cherokee Apache) on my Raspberry Pi. I had something working before but I lost the file with the instructions I had setup before :P |
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| 16:08.18 | pigro | hi all |
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| 16:08.51 | tecnico | any idea on how to force permissions on a mounted ext3 disk so that a regular user can mount a USB drive and have at least read permission on all files, even those owned by root on that external drive ?? |
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| 16:10.15 | tremon | tecnico: try man mount. I don't think it's possible |
| 16:11.32 | tecnico | I've tried looking at fuse related docs but can't find a way yet |
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| 16:19.50 | sakal | hi. I have update my debian sid and got a adventures :) so, I have nvidia-driver 340.32, but nvidia-kernel 340.24. So, now I can't update nvidia-kernel and can't downgrade nvidia-driver. What must I do now? |
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| 16:20.36 | stangeland | hi, i am trying to do mount compute-0-1:/media /disks/compute-0-1 but i get timeout...i know that compute-0-1 exists, and when i ssh to compute-0-1 and do hostname i get compute-0-1.local. On compute-0-1 i have also added /media*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,crossmnt) to /etc/exports and done exportfs -a. What am I missing? |
| 16:20.45 | jhutchins | sakal: Restore the snapshot from before your update or just wait until the other packages get updated. |
| 16:21.10 | jhutchins | sakal: Someone in #debian-next on oftc.net might have specific info. |
| 16:21.33 | jelly | sakal: prebuilt modules or nvidia-kernel-dkms? |
| 16:21.52 | jelly | but yeah, the right place to ask about sid is the OFTC network, that there channel |
| 16:22.15 | sakal | jhutchins: I didn't found nvidia-kernel 340.32 on packages.d.n |
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| 16:22.30 | tremon | sakal: the nvidia driver 340.24 can be found on snapshot.debian.org |
| 16:22.32 | jhutchins | sakal: Right, that's how sid works. |
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| 16:22.52 | sakal | jelly, already have and reinstall - it's not help |
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| 16:23.31 | sakal | jhutchins: I know :) but in last 3-4 years I have no problems with drivers on sid ;0 |
| 16:23.33 | sakal | :) |
| 16:23.39 | jelly | sakal: are you using nvidia-kernel-dkms or the packages that have binary modules built by debian? |
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| 16:23.58 | jelly | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 16:24.00 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.117-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.82-1~bpo70+2; sid/non-free: 340.32-1; jessie/non-free: 340.32-1 |
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| 16:24.45 | stangeland | anyone? |
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| 16:26.04 | jhutchins | stangeland: showmount compute-0-1 |
| 16:26.09 | jelly | stangeland: what does "showmount -e compute-0-1" say? |
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| 16:27.04 | valdyn | sakal: install nvidia-kernel-dkms ? |
| 16:27.06 | sakal | jelly: good question. I have nvidia-driver, nvidia-kernel-dkms and just now remove nvidia-kernel-3.14-2-amd64 (340.24+2+2+3.14.13-2) |
| 16:27.18 | sakal | valdyn: yes |
| 16:27.19 | linuxthefish | exim4-base : Depends: exim4-config (>= 4.30) but it is not installed or |
| 16:27.24 | linuxthefish | why do i get this when try remove? |
| 16:27.28 | valdyn | sakal: so just run "dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
| 16:27.31 | jelly | !tell linuxthefish about bat |
| 16:27.37 | sakal | ok |
| 16:28.09 | linuxthefish | oh, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ysmcLHdE and i just want to remove all this crap! |
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| 16:28.52 | rgr | have you been installing naighty packages? If not try the "-f"... |
| 16:29.15 | linuxthefish | nothing :( |
| 16:29.41 | goose | I've got a home server that is running hot, when I check the output of powertop I see: "Audio codec hwC0D0: IDT" at 100% usage and suspect that to be the culprit. I'm using this laptop as a server, so I don't even need sound drivers loaded. How can I unload whatever's using that to prevent this thermal issue? |
| 16:29.44 | jelly | linuxthefish: please pastebin also the other commands dpkg told you about. |
| 16:29.45 | stangeland | jhutchins, should i run that on compute-0-0 where i am trying to mount or on compute-0-1 where i am exporting? |
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| 16:30.09 | sakal | valdyn: thank you. now it works |
| 16:30.11 | jhutchins | stangeland: Use jelly's command, try it on both. |
| 16:30.14 | linuxthefish | nvm i'm just reinstall |
| 16:30.14 | jelly | linuxthefish: if possible, put everything in one paste and use http://paste.debian.net instead of the ad-ridden pastebin.com |
| 16:30.22 | valdyn | goose: try to unload your sound modules |
| 16:30.24 | linuxthefish | there should be big delete button though! |
| 16:30.46 | sakal | jhutchins, jelly, tremon. thank you too |
| 16:30.51 | goose | valdyn: how can I figure out which ones are loaded? |
| 16:30.54 | stangeland | jelly, it says clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered on both |
| 16:31.04 | goose | valdyn: were you helping me with this issue in ##linux a few days ago, also? |
| 16:31.20 | irinix | question: why did installing GCC 4.9 require updating CUPS and various other non-development packages? |
| 16:31.26 | valdyn | goose: no, not with sound |
| 16:31.38 | jelly | stangeland: what about that rpcinfo command you were given in ##linux? |
| 16:31.54 | valdyn | goose: i told someone to install cpufrequtils |
| 16:31.57 | linuxthefish | Removing dovecot-imapd ... wtf why would it try to "Starting IMAP/POP3 mail server: dovecotFatal:" when im removing... |
| 16:32.11 | jelly | stangeland: it should list a couple lines for "mountd" on the server. |
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| 16:32.16 | valdyn | goose: uh, but not in ##linux, im not there ever |
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| 16:32.59 | valdyn | linuxthefish: dovecot has several components, it should restart when you remove just one |
| 16:33.04 | irinix | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/83f4f7bcbb9afc8214ce |
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| 16:33.19 | linuxthefish | i did "apt-get --purge autoremove dovecot* |
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| 16:34.01 | irinix | BUT_WAIT_THERES_MORE! |
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| 16:34.31 | goose | ah. well anyways, valdyn, how can I find out what sound modules are loaded? |
| 16:34.50 | valdyn | goose: run top first if theres a runaway process |
| 16:34.59 | goose | htop doesn't show any |
| 16:35.00 | valdyn | goose: and sound modules start with "snd" |
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| 16:35.32 | goose | so, "modprobe -c | egrep ^snd" ? |
| 16:35.51 | valdyn | goose: your 100.0% Device Audio codec hwC0D0: IDT does for sure not make your system run hot |
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| 16:36.22 | goose | lots of results. there's no harm in unloading all of them, as long as they begin with "snd"? |
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| 16:36.31 | valdyn | goose: yes |
| 16:36.38 | valdyn | goose: but again, this is not your issue |
| 16:36.59 | valdyn | goose: you need to install (and possibly configure) cpufrequtils to use ondemand governor |
| 16:37.00 | goose | what do you think is the issue then? |
| 16:37.19 | valdyn | goose: most cpus run at max frequency by default |
| 16:37.22 | goose | I did, that was the first solution #Debian offered me a few days ago when I initially started troubleshooting this issue |
| 16:37.33 | goose | they're running at 800 MHz, lowest possible frequency |
| 16:37.34 | valdyn | goose: many laptops are trash and that they (near) overheat by default |
| 16:37.48 | valdyn | goose: then it cant run hot |
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| 16:39.09 | valdyn | goose: 800 mhz is like 1/4 the heat generated compared to 1600 mhz, probably, makes no sense that it would overheat, not the cpu |
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| 16:40.37 | tkew | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.22 | goose | well, I just blacklisted every sound module my system has and am rebooting since i couldn't modprobe -r the ones in use |
| 16:41.25 | goose | let's see if that fixes it! |
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| 16:42.16 | jelly | tkew: do you have a debian support question? |
| 16:42.38 | tkew | jelly why people dont use debian? |
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| 16:42.46 | tkew | instead of windows |
| 16:42.55 | jelly | I'll take that as a no. |
| 16:43.09 | tkew | jelly how to make debian support mouse? |
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| 16:43.46 | momomo | How do you connect to a pptp VPN using hexchat or pidgin? On this site, they make it sound easy: http://freevpn.me/accounts .. i am thinking of the one to the left .. i have no idea what to do with the certificate |
| 16:43.50 | brupha | hello all, have a bit of a problem booting into my debian jessie install. Installed windows on an extra drive. Disabled the drive debian resides on prior. However, the efi entry no longer exists for my debian install |
| 16:44.03 | brupha | I can boot into it using rescue |
| 16:44.11 | goose | temperature is dropping valdyn :D |
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| 16:44.19 | goose | down from 80 C to 73 C already |
| 16:44.19 | jhutchins | brupha: So maybe restore grub? |
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| 16:44.25 | rgr | cant he just reinstall grub2 ad that takes care of it? |
| 16:44.48 | rgr | brupha: boom frmo sysrescue or something then google "chroot grub2 install". |
| 16:44.52 | rgr | boot |
| 16:44.58 | brupha | this is what I'm unfamiliar with |
| 16:45.11 | brupha | I'm in at a system rescue prompt |
| 16:45.16 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 16:45.17 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
| 16:45.21 | brupha | the grub.cfg looks correct |
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| 16:47.10 | rgr | dont worry about what it looks like. Just run the reinstall. It will regenerate it. update-grub will find your windows too. |
| 16:47.26 | brupha | I'm assuming I don't have to chroot into the target system if in the rescue process I mounted it's boot? |
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| 16:48.06 | brupha | well update-grub did something different. Will see on reboot |
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| 16:48.54 | brupha | though before I reboot, afer running "update-grub", should I not see the new entry when running efibootmgr? |
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| 16:49.32 | brupha | I'm still only seeing 0000 Windows Boot Manager and 0007 UEFI (myusb) |
| 16:51.04 | somiaj | brupha: you shoudln't see the new boot entry in efibootmgr as far as I know because it is a boot entry in grub. All update grub does is change the grub config files to include new stuff, and you should most likely see the single efi entry for grub. If you dn't see an efi entry for grub, maybe you are missing grub-install onto the efi partition (though not clear now the details here for an efi partition) |
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| 16:51.29 | brupha | currently I don't see any entry for "grub" |
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| 16:51.48 | brupha | http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/installing-debian-gnulinux-and-windows-dual-boot-under-uefi.html |
| 16:52.06 | brupha | that's what I was looking at earlier before I hopped on. But wanted some advice before I started to muck around with it |
| 16:52.09 | somiaj | I think it would be an entry fro debian, that is what it is on my system (which then chainloads grub) |
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| 16:52.35 | somiaj | but with efi I don't htink you want your windows boot in grub, I think you can just use the efi option to pick which you boot |
| 16:52.42 | TwoWholeWorms | I don't suppose any of you lot know if there's a free or not-stupidly-expensive equivalent of those PCI-DSS scans which is intended for open-source projects and similar? |
| 16:52.50 | TwoWholeWorms | So, for a general is-your-server-shit scan sort of thing. |
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| 16:53.19 | brupha | I have a /boot/efi/EFI/debian |
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| 16:54.15 | brupha | and /boot/grub/grub.efi ... in the debian directory of the first grubx64.efi exists |
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| 16:54.37 | brupha | I do appreciate all the help and sure I'm just missing one small part |
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| 16:55.26 | somiaj | brupha: yea that is what I have, and efi entry for debian (which then loads grub). I don't have windows or dual boot so I don't have any other efi enteries |
| 16:55.34 | somiaj | brupha: I missed your original problem, but does anything boot right now? |
| 16:56.12 | brupha | with efi, Windows boots. Using a debian usb install, I can use rescue to mount and run on my debian install |
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| 16:56.35 | brupha | debian is missing entirely from efi |
| 16:56.53 | somiaj | brupha: did you install debian from the debian installer or a debian-live image? |
| 16:57.05 | brupha | installer |
| 16:57.12 | brupha | same usb I'm using for rescue |
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| 16:57.41 | somiaj | well you said 'usb install' so I was double checking. Are you sure you booted the installer in efi mode and not legacy (it supports both) |
| 16:57.49 | brupha | https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20140813 |
| 16:57.55 | brupha | this is what I used for installing |
| 16:58.13 | somiaj | oh you are using the testing/devel installer, that could be your problem. That installer can sometimes be very buggy. |
| 16:58.19 | somiaj | I would try the offical debian wheezy installer. |
| 16:58.24 | jen29 | if i installed kde using apt-get install kde-standard, how would i remove it and everything it installed now that i don't want it anymore? |
| 16:58.36 | ifdsahidsnxy | hi. i used wheezy gnome-shell and now i use jessie. i created a new profile in iceweasle with my old /.mozilla/ff/X.default folder, but it doesnt work. there is no error message it just still the default profile. anyone knows that problem or can help me? |
| 16:58.45 | somiaj | (at this point you shouldn't have to reinstall, but you can make sure that you boot into efi mode and not legacy mode, then once in efi mode reinstall the efi stuff to set up the boot entry for grub) |
| 16:59.04 | brupha | somiai, if I use the wheezy installer, will it mess up the jessie install? |
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| 16:59.26 | somiaj | TwoWholeWorms: what are you wanting to scan for. Are you wanting to audit the code of a paticular project or just do a whole server scan for something inpaticular? |
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| 16:59.51 | TwoWholeWorms | somiaj: I think it's a server scan they're wanting to do rather than an actual code audit. |
| 16:59.57 | somiaj | brupha: not if you are just doign the resuce mode. ONly difference is you will be using a 3.2 kernel instead of 3.14 -- but that should be fine to recover/get the system booting in efi mode. |
| 17:00.26 | brupha | ok |
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| 17:00.42 | brupha | I will try this approach |
| 17:00.45 | somiaj | TwoWholeWorms: what are you wanting to scan for? I know there are somethings but most are escaping my mind. The common one I can thik of is chrootkit, but sounds like you want a more quality check than to check for being hacked. |
| 17:01.07 | brupha | somiaj, after I boot into rescue for wheezy, would I just do update-grub? |
| 17:01.08 | somiaj | brupha: just make sure you boot into efi mode, maybe disable legacy boot in your biso first too |
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| 17:01.53 | brupha | ok, thank you |
| 17:02.02 | somiaj | brupha: no you will want to reinstall grub, make sure you have grub-efi installed (and not grub-pci) then use install grub to put it on the efi partition (here I do not know the details, but it seems you need to reinstall grub into the efi partition) |
| 17:02.26 | somiaj | brupha: I have never had to rescue my few machiens I have efi boots setup on, so not entierly sure on the process. |
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| 17:03.04 | brupha | somiaj, just to verify installer from https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/debian-installer/ ? |
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| 17:03.13 | somiaj | ifdsahidsnxy: how did you create the new profile? Maybe you have to launch iceweasel tell it ot use it |
| 17:03.21 | jen29 | how to i uninstall kde and everything it installed with it in the kde-standard package |
| 17:03.43 | somiaj | brupha: and the one on the netinst cd image should be just fine |
| 17:04.11 | somiaj | jen29: how did you install kde in the first place. did you install it via a task or did you just install the kde-standard package? |
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| 17:04.50 | ifdsahidsnxy | i started the pm with iceweasel -ProfileManager and created a new profile set the folder to my profile folder and set the pm to take that profile and not ask again then clickt start iceweasel |
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| 17:05.52 | jen29 | somiaj: apt-get install kde-standard |
| 17:06.13 | somiaj | jen29: then everything it brought in are marked as auto pacakges |
| 17:06.13 | jen29 | but trying to remove that only removed a few kb worth of metapackages |
| 17:06.26 | somiaj | jen29: apt-get remove kde-standard then apt-get autoremove should remove everything |
| 17:06.36 | somiaj | jen29: if you use aptitude it will remove the auto install packages in one command |
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| 17:06.43 | jen29 | somiaj: oh, thank you |
| 17:07.36 | somiaj | ifdsahidsnxy: I don't know how the profiles work well enough to ensure it loads the correct one, but maybe double check you set the default correctly |
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| 17:10.41 | TwoWholeWorms | Also, what's the name of that firewall that people seem to like more than iptables these days? |
| 17:11.02 | ifdsahidsnxy | yes i check it again by until now i never had a problem with migrating ff profiles even from win do debian |
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| 17:11.43 | somiaj | TwoWholeWorms: you really don't need a firewall on the actual machien you are running as you shouldn't be running services that you don't want open to the internet. |
| 17:12.04 | BenLue | I have some trouble with my Bind9! Here my Confs: named.conf.local: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3cd81cfa/ db.s3root.ff3p: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/88766f4b/ db.2.168.192: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/30795532/ |
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| 17:12.22 | TwoWholeWorms | somiaj: True, but $they have asked for one *sighs* |
| 17:12.25 | somiaj | TwoWholeWorms: I think most prefer to use a firewall on their network (not on their machine). But if they put a firewall on their machine they most likely use iptables or some front end to it. |
| 17:13.14 | somiaj | TwoWholeWorms: But maybe you are thinking of shorewall, this is a more user friendly front end to iptables |
| 17:13.25 | BenLue | And here my Error: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/85c74cfa/ |
| 17:13.25 | BenLue | host: couldn't get address for 'debian.s3root.ff3p': not found |
| 17:13.25 | BenLue | anyone ideas? |
| 17:14.06 | BenLue | My resolve.conf: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b62427ad/ |
| 17:14.36 | TwoWholeWorms | somiaj: Sounds familiar. iptables it is then. |
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| 17:16.29 | ifdsahidsnxy | checked it still doesnt work |
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| 17:18.15 | somiaj | ifdsahidsnxy: well maybe check the bug reports, or file one. I don't see any current bugs that seem to be your issue |
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| 17:19.53 | ifdsahidsnxy | ok i try, is there a log file for the iceweasel profilemanager , thank you |
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| 17:49.14 | Densukke | hello |
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| 17:49.32 | Densukke | anyone know where cvsweb save the images files to add to homepage? |
| 17:49.47 | brupha | somiaj, ok I am booted up in the rescue from https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/debian-installer/ . I followed http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/reinstalling-grub-on-unbootable-debian/ (ran grub-mkdevicemap grub-install /dev/sda update-grub). efibootmgr shows 0000 Windows Boot manager, 0001 debian & 0002 UEFI: usb. When I reboot, the debian entry is gone entirely |
| 17:50.22 | Densukke | bump |
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| 17:51.30 | ska | Why don't 'apt-get -f install' and 'aptitude -f install' agree with each other? How can I default to apt-get ? |
| 17:52.57 | metaspike | its to do with how they interact with dpkg |
| 17:53.09 | somiaj | ska: use apt-get, aptitude and apt-get have different logic so they may resolve dependencies differently. If you have a broken system with various sources and versions to choose from each may find a different solution to fix it. |
| 17:53.23 | jelly-home | BenLue: which IP does your bind9 listen on? |
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| 17:53.41 | somiaj | brupha: hmm, not sure, I don't know enough about efi to debug what could be wrong. |
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| 17:54.06 | Densukke | anyone? |
| 17:54.28 | metaspike | look at the config of csvweb? |
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| 17:54.52 | ska | somiaj: ok.. |
| 17:54.53 | BenLue | jelly all my devices like 192.168.2.5 |
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| 17:55.13 | jelly-home | Densukke: there's no need to "bump" that often. If noone answers, you can safely assume they do not know. Try again in a couple hours or try debian-users mailing list or forums. |
| 17:55.15 | brupha | fair enough, at least I'm seeing the efi entry now |
| 17:55.21 | Densukke | metaspike im not sure were is the root folder for images in cvsweb |
| 17:55.24 | brupha | thank you |
| 17:55.44 | Densukke | thx jelly-home will keep it in mind |
| 17:56.12 | Bluewolf | Hi all, How do I install Wine in wheezy, the interface? |
| 17:56.44 | jelly-home | BenLue: alright, so ask 192.168.2.5 directly -- dig debian.s3root.ff3p @192.168.2.5 |
| 17:57.23 | jelly-home | BenLue: or if you still use the host command, "host debian.s3root.ff3p 192.168.2.5" I think |
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| 17:57.56 | BenLue | jelly-home http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e49b3c62/ |
| 17:58.24 | BenLue | Host debian.s3root.ff3p not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 17:58.39 | brupha | Bluewolf, have you checked out playonlinux? |
| 17:58.56 | jelly-home | BenLue: so your server thinks it's authoritative for that domain, and it says there's no A or AAA record for "debian.s3root.ff3p" |
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| 17:59.06 | brupha | usually what I use for tinkering with wine |
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| 17:59.18 | jelly-home | BenLue: flags: [...] aa indicate authority |
| 17:59.44 | Bluewolf | brupha: I have in the past, but I come from ubuntu where one can run programs with wine. |
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| 18:00.19 | brupha | with playonlinux you can setup multiple versions and manage them pretty easily |
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| 18:00.38 | jelly-home | BenLue: note the SOA serial: 2011041101 in the reply, it's the same as in the zone file. Did you forget to change it after editing the zone? |
| 18:00.55 | jelly-home | BenLue: 2011-04-11 was a long time ago... |
| 18:01.00 | brupha | it also comes with a lot of install scripts specifically for a lot of popular applications |
| 18:01.24 | Bluewolf | brupha: Last I remember it only installed programs in its data base? |
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| 18:02.06 | jelly-home | BenLue: change serial to eg. 2014082800 and do "rndc reload" again |
| 18:02.23 | brupha | Bluewolf, I may be missing something, but I've installed office, rosetta stone, steam and quite a few other other windows applications using it and not having many issues |
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| 18:02.45 | brupha | outside of using playonlinux to configure wine, I can't offer much help. |
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| 18:03.41 | BenLue | jelly-home i have change the serials and reload! |
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| 18:04.02 | bigorangemachine | Hey All, could I get some help? Just some permissions things. Linux n00bie here |
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| 18:04.37 | Bluewolf | brupha: Okay well with Play On linux, It will allow me to install just about any program even if its not in its data base? |
| 18:04.52 | BenLue | jelly-home, i dount understand the part "so your server thinks it's authoritative for that domain, and it says there's no A or AAA record for "debian.s3root.ff3p"" |
| 18:05.19 | BenLue | why debian.s3root.ff3p |
| 18:05.28 | brupha | yes |
| 18:05.33 | BenLue | im using debian01.s3root.ff3p |
| 18:05.38 | brupha | there's an option to install anything you want |
| 18:05.50 | jelly-home | BenLue: that's what you typed in http://paste.debian.net/hidden/85c74cfa/ |
| 18:06.14 | brupha | lower left should state "Install a non-listed program" |
| 18:06.25 | ska | I remember there was some command like apt-mark that could synchronize aptitude, but I can't find any exampls. |
| 18:06.47 | BenLue | ummps jelly-home typed fail :) |
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| 18:06.49 | Bluewolf | brupha: Okay next question, Do I install it through the software center or terminal? |
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| 18:07.35 | BenLue | but with debian01.s3root.ff3p the same error |
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| 18:08.32 | jelly-home | BenLue: verify with "dig s3root.ff3p SOA @192.168.2.5" that your new zone with the new serial is loaded |
| 18:09.26 | bigorangemachine | I am having a problem with Raspberry Pi. I am trying to use Filezilla to SFTP to my webserver folder. I can't overwrite the old files. I am sure its just a permissions group thing as the SSH/SFTP user is listed in the www-data group |
| 18:09.34 | brupha | Bluewolf, I just used apt-get |
| 18:09.37 | brupha | apt-get install playonlinux |
| 18:09.47 | bigorangemachine | apt-get ++++ :D |
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| 18:10.23 | Bluewolf | brupha: Okay thanks, I will try it out :D |
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| 18:10.26 | BenLue | jelly-home; s3root.ff3p was verified done? |
| 18:10.29 | brupha | good luck :) |
| 18:10.52 | Bluewolf | Thanks :) |
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| 18:10.58 | jelly-home | BenLue: do you see the new serial? |
| 18:11.13 | brupha | anyone good with troubleshooting efibootmgr? This is what I'm experiencing https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall#Problem2:_EFI_boot_entries_disappear_after_reboot |
| 18:11.35 | brupha | though, I see my path next to debian as File(\EFI\debian\grubx63.efi) |
| 18:12.08 | ska | aptitude keep-all ? |
| 18:12.31 | BenLue | jelly-home; in Answer Section? Yes! http://paste.debian.net/hidden/22bc1680/ |
| 18:13.31 | tremon | brupha: does that file exist? it's probably in /boot/efi/EFI/debian/ |
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| 18:13.47 | brupha | yes |
| 18:14.25 | jelly-home | BenLue: well then, "dig debian01.s3root.ff3p @192.168.2.5" should work now |
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| 18:14.40 | bigorangemachine | test |
| 18:14.49 | jelly-home | bigorangemachine: test failed. |
| 18:15.14 | bigorangemachine | that was weird jelly-home :) |
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| 18:15.41 | tremon | brupha: it's a stretch, but you could try again with the kernel from backports. Some vendors' efi runtimes require weird workarounds, if it's a known issue a newer kernel might help |
| 18:15.46 | BenLue | jelly-home; http://paste.debian.net/hidden/d475c4d0/ |
| 18:16.04 | jelly-home | BenLue: so you got an answer. |
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| 18:16.21 | BenLue | yes like debian01.s3root.ff3p. 172800 IN A 192.168.2.5 |
| 18:16.33 | tremon | brupha: otherwise searching the internet for your motherboard might help |
| 18:16.50 | jelly-home | BenLue: so your dns server is alright now. |
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| 18:17.35 | jelly-home | BenLue: what does not work? |
| 18:17.42 | tremon | brupha: and you are certain that running efibootmgr actually shows your entry present if you run it without arguments? |
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| 18:18.35 | BenLue | jelly-home; ping from other devices in same network to debian01.s3root.ff3p |
| 18:18.37 | tremon | you could even rmmod efivars ; modprobe efivars, to make sure efibootmgr isn't reading a cached copy even |
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| 18:19.11 | bigorangemachine | Trying not to lose connection :) |
| 18:19.12 | jelly-home | BenLue: did you configure other devices resolv.conf to use 192.168.2.5? |
| 18:19.16 | spaceshiiiiiip | i'm wanting to watch twitch.tv streams without downloading flash ( considering i use gnash ). are there any external programs for this? |
| 18:19.26 | BenLue | jelly-home sure |
| 18:19.30 | brupha | tremon, this is after running the commands listed on here http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/reinstalling-grub-on-unbootable-debian/ in rescue |
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| 18:19.50 | jelly-home | BenLue: which error do you get from some other device? |
| 18:20.03 | BenLue | In Windows NIC and in my Router use DNS 192.168.2.5 |
| 18:20.21 | jelly-home | BenLue: what does "nslookup debian01.s3root.ff3p" on windows say? |
| 18:20.53 | metaspike | spaceshiiiiiip, xbmc |
| 18:20.54 | BenLue | canot find host check name and try later with ping |
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| 18:21.21 | tremon | brupha: those commands don't deal with efi explicitly. Since you've already mentioned efibootmgr, I'm going to assume that grub does The Right Thing automatically, I don't use grub-efi |
| 18:21.59 | jelly-home | BenLue: do you see queries from th windows machine IP in /var/log/daemon.log on the bind9 server? |
| 18:22.00 | BenLue | jelly-home nslookup: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f5a42629/ |
| 18:22.21 | jelly-home | BenLue: Server: UnKnown Address: fd13:8e94:b98b::1 |
| 18:22.38 | jelly-home | BenLue: your windows machine is not configured to ask the right DNS server. |
| 18:22.52 | jelly-home | its equivalent of resolv.conf is not set correctly |
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| 18:23.03 | tremon | brupha: you didn't answer my question though (at least not explicitly). What's the output of efibootmgr -v ? |
| 18:23.09 | BenLue | jelly-home; http://paste.debian.net/hidden/be645353/ |
| 18:23.49 | brupha | tremon, sorry, need to boot back into rescue. One moment |
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| 18:23.55 | jelly-home | BenLue: fix the configuration on the windows machine |
| 18:24.11 | tremon | brupha: no need, your main debian install should also have efibootmgr |
| 18:24.30 | BenLue | jelly-home; http://s1.directupload.net/images/140828/4z8fo63p.png |
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| 18:24.48 | jelly-home | BenLue: why is .1 configured? |
| 18:25.09 | jelly-home | remove 192.168.2.1, leave just .5, try again |
| 18:25.38 | jelly-home | (from the dns configuration. don't touch the default gateway ;-) |
| 18:26.18 | BenLue | *** debian01.s3root.ff3p wurde von UnKnown nicht gefunden: Non-existent domain. |
| 18:26.30 | brupha | tremon: ok, this is the order of operations once chrooted into my working debian jessie install. I need to `mount /boot/efi` before running grub-mkdevicemap grub-install /dev/hda update-grub |
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| 18:27.00 | brupha | without mount /boot/efi , grub-install won't find the debian efi |
| 18:27.01 | BenLue | jelly-home; again, Not Found |
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| 18:27.15 | tremon | I really doubt that your harddisk is called /dev/hda |
| 18:28.15 | brupha | I get the same result with sda |
| 18:28.35 | tremon | BenLue: do you have ipv4 entries for that server as well, or only ipv6? |
| 18:28.38 | jelly-home | BenLue: I have no idea what's going wrong there, ask in ##windows or try with a linux client. |
| 18:29.14 | BenLue | jelly-home i need to remove dns entry in my router? |
| 18:29.35 | jelly-home | BenLue: what? |
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| 18:30.37 | tremon | brupha: I think that grub-install ignores your /dev/whatever argument. It knows to install itself in the efi system partition, which is the partition mounted on /boot/efi |
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| 18:31.06 | BenLue | I have set the DNS-Server 192.168.2.5 in my Router |
| 18:31.08 | brupha | once chrooted into my debian jessie install, efibootmgr -v displays 3 items. Boot0000 Windows Boot Manager, Boot0003 UEFI OS ...File(\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI) and Boot0004 UEFI: usb ... |
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| 18:31.24 | BenLue | Router/GW |
| 18:31.34 | jelly-home | BenLue: that sounds correct |
| 18:32.00 | tremon | unless that router/gw doesn't understand/forward aaaa records |
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| 18:32.16 | tremon | should be easy to check from a linux client |
| 18:32.30 | spaceshiiiiiip | metaspike: i'm on http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Add-on:TwitchTV and can't find a download link, and it's also not showing up in xbmc.. |
| 18:32.36 | tremon | brupha: I don't see a linux entry there |
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| 18:32.56 | metaspike | isn't there a plugin for twitch on xbmc? |
| 18:33.09 | BenLue | jelly-home; looks my Server resolv.conf correct? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/ac74f01d/ |
| 18:33.17 | spaceshiiiiiip | i have no clue, to be honest. |
| 18:33.29 | metaspike | http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Add-on:TwitchTV |
| 18:33.40 | metaspike | seek, and you will find. if you're lucky! |
| 18:33.41 | spaceshiiiiiip | yeah, i just sent you that lol |
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| 18:33.45 | brupha | correct |
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| 18:34.11 | tremon | brupha: but you did say you could make that linux entry appear, yes? |
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| 18:34.36 | jelly-home | BenLue: it still has itself as nameserver. That may or may not be correct. |
| 18:34.38 | brupha | tremon: if I mount /boot/efi and run grub-mkdevicemap grub-install /dev/hda (or /dev/sda), the debian entry will show |
| 18:34.44 | brupha | so let me do that and will give you this data |
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| 18:37.03 | brupha | tremon: Boot0001* debian HD(1,800,f3800,<id>)File(\EFI\debian\grubx64.efi) |
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| 18:37.38 | BenLue | jelly-home my android device: cant resolve "debian01.s3root.ff3p" No address associated with hostname" |
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| 18:38.02 | BenLue | with nslookup |
| 18:38.05 | jelly-home | BenLue: is it asking the right nameserver? |
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| 18:38.43 | jelly-home | I have no idea how resolver works on android |
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| 18:38.52 | tremon | brupha: ok, looks correct. And /boot/efi/EFI/debian/grubx64.efi exists, yes? |
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| 18:39.15 | brupha | yup |
| 18:39.26 | tremon | brupha: if so, do rmmod efivars ; modprobe efivars ; and check that the efibootmgr output is still the same |
| 18:39.28 | jelly-home | BenLue: its possible your router and dhcp server gave it incorrect nameservers |
| 18:39.34 | brupha | tremon: should I have to mount /boot/efi before all this takes? |
| 18:39.43 | brupha | ok, doing now |
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| 18:40.19 | tremon | brupha: yes, you need to have /boot/efi mounted. Otherwise grub will install itself on the linux partition instead of the efi system partition |
| 18:41.03 | brupha | should it state "mobprobe: ERROR: ../lib .... could not open file '/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/modules.dep.bin'? ... question, someone else suggested that I use the wheezy rescue |
| 18:41.21 | brupha | which would be 3.14 (not 3.2.0... kernel) |
| 18:41.36 | tremon | brupha: ah, in rescue. You probably need to do the rmmod and modprobe from outside the jessie chroot |
| 18:42.05 | brupha | ok, so when asked if I want to mount /boot in the install, don't |
| 18:42.18 | tremon | you need to have both mounted |
| 18:42.33 | tremon | without /boot, you will not have your /boot/efi mountpoint |
| 18:42.56 | tremon | although with an efi system, there really is no reason to have a separate /boot partition |
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| 18:43.17 | brupha | ok, running in the installer shell |
| 18:43.25 | brupha | with /target as the jessie root |
| 18:43.26 | bigorangemachine | If anyone is any good with web-servers and file permissions let me know. I am 99.9% I have a simple question |
| 18:43.50 | brupha | so mount /target/boot/efi ? |
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| 18:44.09 | tremon | bigorangemachine: just ask. You don't want 1440 people telling you that they can answer a simple question |
| 18:44.31 | bigorangemachine | tremon I asked earlier. I don't want to flood |
| 18:45.05 | bigorangemachine | I am having a problem with Raspberry Pi. I am trying to use Filezilla to SFTP to my webserver folder. I can't overwrite the old files. I am sure its just a permissions group thing as the SSH/SFTP user is listed in the www-data group |
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| 18:45.21 | brupha | tremon, well I have the jessie boot mounted at /x so what I had earlier as /boot/efi is now /x |
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| 18:45.23 | tremon | brupha: oh, if you meant if you need to have the esp mounted before running the rmmod/modprobe commands, the answer would be "no you don't need them for that" :) |
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| 18:45.48 | brupha | tremon: no, I mean do I need this mounted to get back to our current step |
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| 18:46.25 | tremon | you only need them mounted in the chroot. There's no need to mount them manually somewhere else |
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| 18:48.00 | tremon | bigorangemachine: you need to make sure that a) the files are actually owned by the www-data group, and make sure the group write permission is enabled. You should see -rwxrwx* in the file listing |
| 18:48.14 | tremon | needed a b) somewhere in there |
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| 18:49.11 | BenLue | jelly-home; i think it was an Ipv6 Problem |
| 18:49.41 | BenLue | i have disabled IPv6 in my Nic from Windows Maschine now, its working |
| 18:50.02 | BenLue | But i dount know the Problem |
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| 18:50.57 | brupha | tremon: good news, bad news. "debian" is now showing up, but only seeing "system setup" which is my BIOS settings |
| 18:51.32 | qman__ | bigorangemachine, tremon: www-data is the httpd's user and group; the website files should not be owned by www-data, if it does that opens you up to anonymous users having write access to your files |
| 18:51.40 | tremon | brupha: no windows and usb entries any more? That's definitely odd |
| 18:51.55 | brupha | no, usb & windows ... not in grub though |
| 18:51.58 | tremon | slaps himself |
| 18:52.08 | tremon | qman__: thanks, you're right of course :) |
| 18:52.59 | tremon | brupha: in grub? they shouldn't be there in grub |
| 18:53.26 | qman__ | The default perms are root:root, just chown to your own user |
| 18:53.50 | tremon | brupha: the efibootmgr output has nothing to do with grub |
| 18:53.57 | brupha | tremon: yes, but only system setup is in grub. So, we have our main 3 entries. Windows boots fine into windows, usb boots fine into usb, "debian" brings up grub, but only for system setup |
| 18:54.12 | brupha | ok, so then now my grub is not setup correct? |
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| 18:54.39 | tremon | brupha: so, it's actually grub that is not giving you a debian kernel to boot into? that's a whole different problem :) |
| 18:55.24 | brupha | tremon: here's the fun thing. /boot/grub & /boot/efi exists (always have). the grub.cfg in /boot/grub has all the fun stuff that appears to be my debian jessie install |
| 18:55.52 | brupha | in /boot/efi/EFI/debian I only see grubx64.efi |
| 18:55.56 | brupha | no grub.cfg btw |
| 18:56.37 | tremon | brupha: that may be correct, iirc the grubx64.efi has its configuration compiled into the efi module |
| 18:57.07 | brupha | tremon: might be correct as in the setup is right? |
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| 18:57.46 | tremon | brupha: I have too little experience with grub-efi to be certain that it is correct. But it matches what grub does on legacy bios |
| 18:58.07 | brupha | you know, it looks like all the devicemapping and other misc commands I've been running are only effecting the /boot/grub directory |
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| 18:58.26 | tremon | the efi module is only a small core that knows how to bootstrap the rest of grub from /boot/grub |
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| 18:59.41 | tremon | brupha: update-grub is responsible for configuring grub in /boot/grub. grub-install is (likely) what is putting the efi module under /boot/efi and registering itself in the efibootmgr |
| 19:00.58 | brupha | when I use grub-install should I be specifying /boot/efi ? |
| 19:01.54 | BenLue | Question, i have add my Bind9 DNS-Server in my Router. Now normaly all my DHCP clients known my new DNS-Server, is this correct? |
| 19:02.11 | tremon | that, I don't know. Or you should be specifying the partition that is holding /boot/efi, likely /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 if windows was installed first |
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| 19:03.27 | brupha | tremon: what would be the easiest way to find this out? I've run fdisk -l and it provides a lot of insightful information, but haven't stared at it enough to draw out all the conclusions needed for this |
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| 19:04.20 | brupha | originally, I had debian jessie on here first on the raid0 array. the related drives are /dev/sdd1 & 2 |
| 19:04.27 | brupha | I pulled them to install windows later on |
| 19:04.51 | brupha | I didn't expect to be installing windows outside of the vm I have setup ;> |
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| 19:05.06 | jen29 | does anyone know which directory to add files to your server once you install apache in debian? |
| 19:05.24 | bigorangemachine | jen29 |
| 19:05.30 | bigorangemachine | jen29 its by configuration |
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| 19:05.41 | bigorangemachine | if its the default it should be.... |
| 19:05.49 | brupha | jen29: /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 19:05.58 | brupha | default config should be in there |
| 19:06.09 | hi2u | Does anyone know what happened to the 'weechat' package in Debian Jessie? It's gone from the repo. |
| 19:06.10 | bigorangemachine | that :) |
| 19:06.18 | tremon | brupha: how are you mounting /boot/efi now? if it's mounted, you can cat /proc/mounts and check which device it is using |
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| 19:06.56 | cynicallemon | jen29: try /var/www |
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| 19:07.05 | jen29 | bigorangemachine: brupha thanks |
| 19:07.13 | jen29 | i'll try those |
| 19:07.42 | tremon | hi2u: https://packages.qa.debian.org/w/weechat/news/20140826T163917Z.html |
| 19:08.12 | brupha | rootfs / rootfs, none /run tmpfs, none /proc proc, none /sys sysfs, devtmpfs /dev devtmpfs, devpts /dev/pts devpts |
| 19:08.17 | tremon | hi2u: relevant comment is "Finish the perl 5.20 transition". weechat wasn't compatible and not updated in time, so it was removed. Weechat 1.0 is reintroduced in sid |
| 19:08.29 | brupha | jen29 be sure to create a symbolic link in sites-enabled under /etc/apache2/ |
| 19:08.36 | jen29 | /etc/apache2 only has a conf.d folder in it. and /var doesn't have a www folder in it |
| 19:08.42 | hi2u | tremon: thank you. would pulling in from sid be my best bet now? |
| 19:08.51 | brupha | so symbolic links from /etc/apache2/sites-available --> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
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| 19:09.19 | jen29 | when i go to http://localIP i get a "It works" message saying the server works but no data has been added yet |
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| 19:09.24 | brupha | sorry tremon, getting that info I can cat /proc/mounts |
| 19:09.40 | spaceshiiiiiip | metaspike: "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing xbmc" in /etc/apt/sources.list to download from testing isn't working :( - Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-backports/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex |
| 19:09.41 | spaceshiiiiiip | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/Release Unable to find expected entry 'xbmc/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 19:09.46 | spaceshiiiiiip | sorry for the spam :| |
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| 19:10.00 | jen29 | brupha: but there is no /etc/apache2/sites-available |
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| 19:10.08 | tremon | hi2u: you could. But if the package doesn't migrate to testing before the freeze (unlikely) you'll be stuck with a mix of stable and testing for the duration of jessie's lifetime |
| 19:10.10 | jen29 | only /etc/apache2/conf.d |
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| 19:10.40 | hi2u | tremon: thank you again! |
| 19:10.48 | bigorangemachine | jen29: did you install apache2 or apache? |
| 19:11.10 | bigorangemachine | oh wait apache2 |
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| 19:11.13 | brupha | rootfs / rootfs, none /run tmpfs, none /proc proc, none /sys sysfs, devtmpfs /dev devtmpfs, devpts /dev/pts, /dev/sdd1 /cdrom, /dev/skynet-vg/root / (lvm root), devtmpfs /dev devtmpfs, none /proc proc, none /sys sysfs, none /run tmpfs, /dev/md126p1 /boot/efi |
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| 19:11.25 | brupha | so, the /boot/efi is mounted on the raid0 array |
| 19:11.34 | bigorangemachine | jen29: did you use apt-get? |
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| 19:11.41 | jen29 | bigorangemachine: sorry i messed up. just installed apache2 and i see it now |
| 19:11.44 | brupha | jen29 try /etc/httpd |
| 19:11.45 | tremon | brupha, jen29: debian provides a2enmod and similar to manage the symlinks in /etc/apache2/*-available |
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| 19:11.51 | jen29 | brupha: thanks i found it |
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| 19:12.38 | tremon | brupha: well, that would explain why it's not working as it should. You think your bios can read a linux software raid0 setup? |
| 19:12.38 | jen29 | so i should be able to just put a index.html file in there and go to http://192.168.11.X.X and see it right? |
| 19:12.55 | brupha | jen29, follow tremon's advice with a2enmod. I'm just used to managing all my site configs on my own. That's most likely an easier way of going about it. |
| 19:13.32 | tremon | brupha: the efi system partition you should have mounted on /boot/efi is most definitely a single-disk partition, and should be formatted as fat32 |
| 19:13.34 | brupha | tremon: actually no I don't, so lets correct the problem :) |
| 19:13.45 | jen29 | tremon: thanks |
| 19:14.50 | tremon | brupha: it should be the partition that also contains the \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI file that you launch windows with |
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| 19:15.40 | tremon | jen29: normally, under /etc/apache2 you configure the sites apache should serve. In such a configuration file, you specify the path where the files are stored on your system |
| 19:15.51 | jen29 | tremon: it's not finding a2enmod when i try to install with apt-get |
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| 19:16.07 | brupha | efibootmgr -v ... Boot0000 Windows Boot Manager HD(2,...)File(\EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI).... |
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| 19:16.34 | rgr | jen29: a2enmod is part of apache. |
| 19:16.35 | tremon | brupha: yes, that file I meant |
| 19:17.04 | tremon | jen29: the default debian setup provides a default site config, which puts the local site root at /var/www |
| 19:17.24 | brupha | tremon: I guess my question is how to hunt this down? I imagine it's on sd1 or sd2 |
| 19:17.31 | brupha | sorry, sda1 or sda2 |
| 19:17.45 | jmd | Anyone know how to debug printing /cups issues? Whenever I try to print, I get the error: "Failed to load PPM image" |
| 19:18.06 | rgr | you configure them under /etc/apache2/sites-available. not /etc/apache2. a2enmod then symlinks them or not into sites-enabled. |
| 19:18.22 | tremon | brupha: it could just as easily be on sdb1 or sdb2. I would run blkid /dev/sd* and look for msdos or vfat partitions |
| 19:18.40 | l_r | it looks it's not possible to use the wifi with net installer |
| 19:18.46 | brupha | /dev/sda2 |
| 19:18.55 | brupha | tehre's also /dev/sdd2 |
| 19:19.08 | tremon | jen29: as said, a2enmod is in the main apache2 package. They are in /usr/sbin, so only in root's path |
| 19:19.14 | l_r | right? |
| 19:19.20 | l_r | the option is not supported |
| 19:19.21 | jen29 | ok |
| 19:19.32 | rgr | brupha: it couldnt be easier. mount them in ~/tmp and have a look.... one by one..... |
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| 19:19.49 | brupha | wonderful, thank you |
| 19:20.08 | brupha | sorry, sometimes common sense flies over my head on these. Why I come to you fine folks |
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| 19:20.48 | tremon | l_r: it depends. Most (non-atheros) wireless chipsets require firmware, which debian doesn't include by default. Also, previous debian installers didn't support wpa encryption, but I believe the latest one does |
| 19:21.10 | l_r | but i have the firmware-debian-7.6.iso |
| 19:21.28 | l_r | isn't it supposed to include all the necessary firmware? |
| 19:21.43 | abrotman | l_r: is it loading the firmware for your device? your device may be too new |
| 19:21.45 | l_r | my card is intel based |
| 19:21.56 | l_r | :( |
| 19:22.00 | brupha | ok tremon: both sda2 and sdd2 have and efi entry |
| 19:22.10 | l_r | when is it supposed to load the firmware? |
| 19:22.12 | jen29 | i got it to work thanks for the help |
| 19:22.18 | abrotman | l_r: what is your actual card? |
| 19:22.26 | l_r | moment..i ll check |
| 19:22.28 | spaceshiiiiiip | how would i install xbmc from testing? |
| 19:22.39 | brupha | sda2 has \EFI\Microsoft ... & sdd2 has \efi\boot (with bootx64.efi) |
| 19:22.46 | tremon | l_r: might be, I have never tried that. Hang around, maybe someone else can help you further. You can also try asking #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
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| 19:23.20 | tremon | brupha: then it's likely that /dev/sda2 is what is actually used by your system |
| 19:23.56 | tremon | brupha: you need to mount /dev/sda2 on /boot/efi, then redo your steps (grub-install, update-grub, etc) |
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| 19:25.05 | l_r | abrotman, intel centrino ac 3160 |
| 19:25.12 | abrotman | doesn't know what that is |
| 19:25.15 | abrotman | l_r: how old is it? |
| 19:25.18 | Plouj | what's a good way to write a C file which includes vis.h such that it works on both Squeeze (#include <vis.h>) and on Wheezy (#include <bsd/vis.h)? |
| 19:25.50 | abrotman | dpkg: tell l_r about iwl7000 |
| 19:26.01 | l_r | abrotman, the laptop is a dell ,i bought it few days ago, i think it appeared some m onths ago on the market |
| 19:26.05 | abrotman | l_r: compare PCIIDs (lspci -nn) |
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| 19:26.09 | Bluewolf | How do I install q4wine in wheezy with the missing dependencies? |
| 19:26.13 | tremon | Plouj: that sounds like a job for autotools. Beware of the dragons ;) |
| 19:26.20 | Bluewolf | lib4 or so |
| 19:26.35 | Plouj | tremon: I was hoping not to have to use autotools for a single-file program. |
| 19:26.50 | l_r | abrotman, yes,but the qquestio n still remains, how/when is the .iso installer supposed to load the firmware? i am in expert mode and i son't see any options |
| 19:27.17 | abrotman | l_r: it won't load it if it doesn't match PCIIDs .. you can use the console in alt-f3 and scan through 'dmesg' |
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| 19:27.38 | tremon | Plouj: well, the "easy" way is to include both files, each guarded by a separate #ifdef guard, and provide two Makefiles (or a makevar) for the correct build |
| 19:27.41 | brupha | well ... I've succeeded in adding the windows booter in grub :) |
| 19:27.42 | l_r | what a pity |
| 19:27.48 | brupha | closer though |
| 19:27.51 | tremon | Plouj: but such a question is better asked on #c |
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| 19:29.15 | abrotman | l_r: pity? |
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| 19:29.38 | l_r | abrotman, alt f3 does not give me the shell to check |
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| 19:31.23 | l_r | my card is supported |
| 19:31.32 | l_r | 8086:08b3 |
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| 19:31.44 | l_r | so..how can i run the net installer via wifi |
| 19:32.22 | abrotman | l_r: maybe alt-f4 .. |
| 19:32.48 | l_r | i have the shell |
| 19:32.53 | l_r | i checked the 8086 |
| 19:32.56 | l_r | ids |
| 19:32.58 | l_r | it's ok |
| 19:33.10 | l_r | so, how can i load the wifi to use the netinstaller |
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| 19:33.20 | l_r | i don't want to struggle with manual configurations |
| 19:35.30 | l_r | sadly speaking, i chose a damn 100% intel based machine because i am tired to struggle with drivers & workarounds for anything. i at least expected the installer to work out of the box |
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| 19:38.38 | Bluewolf | I can't seem to install q4wine - any help? http://paste.debian.net/118066/ |
| 19:38.42 | Plouj | tremon: Thanks. Though I don't think people in #c like os-specific questions like this. |
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| 19:41.40 | rawsted | what are the basic steps for making nfs work under debian? i've got what i believe is a valid exports configuration, but clients can't connect |
| 19:41.47 | Shadow_7 | l_r: I just use a dedicated router and ethernet only from the linux box I'm installing to. |
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| 19:42.57 | Shadow_7 | rawsted: install the nfs-server package on the server and the nfs-client on the clients. The config is a stupid 3 liner. Can't recall the link that documents it. |
| 19:43.28 | l_r | howver the kernel 3.2 in debian 7.6 is too old for my card |
| 19:43.43 | l_r | so i would not be able to use it out of the box |
| 19:43.55 | l_r | i am sadly switching to kubuntu |
| 19:44.09 | Shadow_7 | there's testing / unstable |
| 19:44.13 | Shadow_7 | aka jessie / sid |
| 19:44.24 | l_r | yes, but i expect kubuntu to be more stable than debian testing |
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| 19:44.33 | rawsted | Shadow_7: i've done those steps -- i've got nfs-kernel-server running with an /etc/exports that is not generating any errors. atm the client i'm testing from is an osx box, but its nfs client capabilities are sound as i use it with an fbsd nfs host regularly |
| 19:44.39 | Shadow_7 | except for being based off of it... sort of |
| 19:44.58 | l_r | it's based on it, but i think they also work on making it more stable |
| 19:45.15 | Shadow_7 | if by stable you mean LTS |
| 19:45.35 | Shadow_7 | rawsted: you have to mount the share on the client |
| 19:45.42 | Shadow_7 | which might need root perms |
| 19:45.52 | TTT | hmm, Icannot join #debian-next. I am running sid on a laptop, and funny things started happening recently. Sometimes my USB mouse works, sometimes doesn't. Plugging it in and out doesn't help, and it runs fine under windows. Sometimes on bootup my wlan1 gets configured (it's set to auto on /etc/network/interfaces), sometimes it doesn't. It looks kinda random on each bootup. |
| 19:45.59 | TTT | some kind of UDEV/systemd issue? |
| 19:46.13 | Shadow_7 | the #debian-next is on the OFTC irc server |
| 19:46.13 | Bluewolf | How do I install this and its dependencies? http://paste.debian.net/118072/ |
| 19:46.31 | Bluewolf | q4wine that is |
| 19:46.33 | l_r | what's the mmost important complaint a debian user would have about ubuntu (kubuntu actually) ? |
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| 19:47.15 | Shadow_7 | unity probably... but their updates can break stupid things. Like the bootloader |
| 19:47.27 | rawsted | there it goes...it was my exports config after all. and now i vanish! |
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| 19:47.43 | Shadow_7 | and performance. *ubuntu's tend to run too much by default |
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| 19:54.52 | brupha | tremon: still there? Since we covered the raid array topic. /boot/grub/* all exists on the array (never had to mount). I have debian grub popping up, but with no option to select my debian install |
| 19:55.09 | brupha | looks like there's one piece I'm missing. |
| 19:56.07 | Shadow_7 | update-grub from the install that has the grub bits should auto-add "attached" bootable options |
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| 19:56.23 | brupha | ya I did that too |
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| 19:56.29 | tremon | brupha: at least the piece that you're now missing is no longer efi-specific so should be easier to solve |
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| 19:57.01 | brupha | Shadow_7: these are the commands I've used http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/reinstalling-grub-on-unbootable-debian/ |
| 19:57.16 | tremon | brupha: can you paste /boot/grub/grub.cfg (iirc) and the output of ls -l /boot |
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| 20:00.08 | l_r | will debian testing become stable during the time? |
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| 20:00.39 | l_r | i know testing is the candidate for stable, but my question is slightly different |
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| 20:01.17 | Shadow_7 | never ran grub-mkdevicemap myself |
| 20:01.21 | tremon | l_r: testing is the only candidate. Can you rephrase your question? |
| 20:01.51 | l_r | if i install testing now, will it be the same as stable when the actual testing has been tagged as stable? |
| 20:01.57 | tremon | Shadow_7: you shouldn't need it, unless you changed your disks (and then really only if you changed your boot or root disks) |
| 20:02.32 | rryoumaa | how do you purge something that you already removed? |
| 20:02.35 | l_r | (if i keep updating the packages of course) |
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| 20:03.04 | tremon | l_r: yes, it will be the same. Make sure your sources.list entries refer to jessie though, not testing |
| 20:03.28 | Shadow_7 | tremon: I tend to use UUIDs as my mobo supports PATA and SATA and /dev/ names are a game of roulette each boot. |
| 20:03.32 | l_r | tremon, what is the default? |
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| 20:04.06 | Shadow_7 | rryoumaa: dpkg --purge --force-all <packagename> |
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| 20:04.21 | Shadow_7 | rryoumaa: or apt-get remove --purge <packagename> |
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| 20:04.53 | tremon | l_r: not sure. The recommended way to install testing is to do a dist-upgrade from stable. I have no idea what the testing installer does |
| 20:04.57 | tremon | rryoumaa: my favourite is aptitude purge ~c |
| 20:05.26 | Shadow_7 | l_r: best to upgrade from stable to testing. The testing installer is for "testing" the installer |
| 20:05.42 | rryoumaa | thanks |
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| 20:06.40 | rryoumaa | tremon: that doesn't seem to get rid of /etc/pulse |
| 20:07.15 | tremon | rryoumaa: what does dpkg -S /etc/pulse say? |
| 20:07.47 | brupha | tremon: http://pastebin.com/z77z2D4t |
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| 20:08.06 | Shadow_7 | tbh... I do debootstrap installs. Which is basically sans installer. |
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| 20:09.44 | rryoumaa | tremon: ah that's libpulse0 which is depended on by too many things |
| 20:10.04 | rryoumaa | and here i thought i had gotten rid of pulseaudio |
| 20:11.00 | tremon | brupha: that grub config does show debian entries, and it shows bash source code in 41_custom. Do you get an error when grub loads, does it drop you rescue mode? Or does it simply show an empty menu? |
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| 20:12.16 | brupha | no errors when grub loads, just shows "Windows Boot Manager" & "System Setup (my bios)" |
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| 20:13.07 | jmd | Is there any way to run i386 binaries on a x86_64 kernel? |
| 20:13.21 | brupha | tremon: all of the menu options listed in the grub.cfg are the ones that used to be on the menu |
| 20:13.31 | brupha | it's behaving as if this grub.cfg isn't being run |
| 20:13.57 | tremon | brupha: I was going to say that. You wouldn't happen to have another /boot partition lying around, would you? |
| 20:14.18 | brupha | just the two, /dev/sda2 & /dev/sdd2 |
| 20:14.23 | brupha | /dev/sdd2 is the old |
| 20:14.34 | tremon | are those boot partitions of efi system partitions? |
| 20:14.54 | tremon | s/of/or/ |
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| 20:15.48 | brupha | my assumption is efi system partitions |
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| 20:15.56 | somiaj | jmd: provided you have the kernel set up to do so, yes there is (debian kernels do this by default). You just need the 32bit libs the binaries require using multiarch install |
| 20:16.00 | brupha | what would be the best way to answer this question for you? |
| 20:16.09 | somiaj | !tell jmd about multiarch |
| 20:17.40 | Shadow_7 | jmd: ofc... in a 32 bit chroot for example |
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| 20:18.45 | tremon | brupha: booting a linux system on efi requires three separate paths and at least two partitions. There is /, /boot and /boot/efi. The latter is (should be) the efi system partition, and the first is obviously the root of your debian install. Do you have /boot also in a separate partition? |
| 20:19.29 | brupha | /dev/sdd1 has an asterisk under boot when doing sfdisk -l -uM /dev/sdd |
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| 20:21.02 | brupha | /dev/sdd1 looks like my usb :) |
| 20:21.06 | brupha | so disregard it |
| 20:22.26 | tremon | brupha: can you paste the full output of mount? |
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| 20:23.03 | tremon | brupha: obviously, grub is getting its config from somewhere else than your /boot/grub directory |
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| 20:24.41 | brupha | http://pastebin.com/dLhkmFdQ |
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| 20:25.45 | jhutchins | Are we sure it's even grub that's displaying the boot menu? That sounds a lot like a BIOS boot menu. |
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| 20:26.25 | BenLue | jelly-home you there? |
| 20:26.29 | tremon | I don't know. Can't see that screen, for obvious reasons :) |
| 20:26.39 | tremon | brupha: that's not the output of "mount" |
| 20:26.56 | brupha | cat /proc/mounts ? |
| 20:27.09 | tremon | yes, that's fine. They're virtually similar |
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| 20:28.34 | tremon | brupha: that second efi partition you mentioned is your usb disk. Are you sure the system is booting from your internal disk when you try grub? |
| 20:28.35 | brupha | http://pastebin.com/JkTiGNsA |
| 20:29.00 | brupha | it asks if I want to use boot on the lvm |
| 20:29.25 | brupha | I can't say I'm 100% sure though since this problem exists |
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| 20:29.53 | tremon | brupha: ok, that's good, no separate /boot mountpoint. So no hidden grub.cfg lying around |
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| 20:31.05 | tremon | brupha: booting without the usb stick inserted would be a good test :) -- other than that, I'm at a loss. I don't see any other partitions where grub should be picking up a stray config |
| 20:31.31 | brupha | when I boot without the usb stick, I only see "windows...." & "system setup" ;> |
| 20:31.47 | brupha | in the grub menu |
| 20:31.52 | tremon | that's not grub at all |
| 20:32.13 | tremon | that's likely to be the efi menu |
| 20:32.27 | brupha | this grub.cfg is on the linux software raid btw |
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| 20:32.38 | brupha | not sure if you caught that earlier |
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| 20:33.19 | tremon | yes, but grub is happy to read linux raid. It has much more capabilities than efi |
| 20:33.23 | BenLue | i have add some A Records now i have trouble with my dns: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1b627c8e/ |
| 20:33.31 | BenLue | anyone ideas? |
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| 20:35.01 | brupha | hmm |
| 20:35.53 | tremon | brupha: I don't think we have made any progress here. We still have no linux entry in the efi menu, even though we've added it multiple times and you have verified that grubx64.efi exists in the correct path, on the same partition as windows' efi bootloader |
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| 20:37.26 | brupha | yes I've noticed unfortunately. Either way, thank you for your help. I'm going to tinker a bit more |
| 20:37.32 | brupha | if you have any ideas that pop up let me know |
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| 20:38.54 | tremon | brupha: my next step would be to find shellx64.efi on the net and put it on the efi partition, then look for a shell option in the efi system config |
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| 20:39.37 | tremon | that requires some familiarity with msdos, since (naturally) the efi shell is based on ms-dos, not unix |
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| 21:29.23 | stangeland | hi, i have done this on my server: /media*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,crossmnt) in /etc/exports and done exportfs -a, and on my client mounted that share...however i still cannot see filesystems which have been in /media on the server from the client...should i do something special before crossmnt works? |
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| 21:31.49 | jhutchins | stangeland: You appear to have an odd character after /media. |
| 21:31.55 | tremon | stangeland: iirc you still need to explicitly export the mountpoints under /media |
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| 21:32.10 | brupha | tremon: got it |
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| 21:32.20 | brupha | still there? |
| 21:32.35 | stangeland | jhutchins, thats a wildcard.... to export to any address |
| 21:33.03 | jhutchins | stangeland: It displays here as a reverse-color I then the asterisk. |
| 21:33.07 | stangeland | tremon, mmm no the idea is i want to share any systems which will be mounted under /media |
| 21:33.11 | tremon | brupha: only for a few minutes, need to get some sleep |
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| 21:33.19 | brupha | tremon: so here was the problem. First, what we did corrected the efi issue |
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| 21:33.30 | brupha | what I was doing incorrectly is mounting the old /boot |
| 21:33.52 | brupha | in the rescue, I should've not been letting /boot get mounted from the old one |
| 21:33.58 | jhutchins | tremon: No, /media will export /media/* |
| 21:34.18 | brupha | after I that, I ran the commands from http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/reinstalling-grub-on-unbootable-debian/ and everything cleared up |
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| 21:34.26 | tremon | jhutchins: there a space between media and * in my client (?) |
| 21:34.32 | stangeland | jhutchins, was that for me? |
| 21:34.36 | jhutchins | brupha: Thanks for the follow up! |
| 21:34.47 | brupha | haha, thank you :) |
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| 21:35.11 | jhutchins | tremon: Yes, in exports on the server. path space address(options) |
| 21:35.32 | brupha | I thought I was going to have to do a few quick rsyncs and just reinstall and setup everything |
| 21:35.58 | brupha | ok, time to get some actual work done now that my environment isn't thrown off by Windows ;> ... cheers! |
| 21:36.19 | tremon | jhutchins: sorry, I don't get your comment then. path *(options) will export to any client, not export path/* as individual mountpoints |
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| 21:36.31 | stangeland | jhutchins, so what should i do? |
| 21:36.37 | jhutchins | tremon: Yes, both. |
| 21:37.47 | jhutchins | tremon: For instance /home will export /home/jrhutchins which I then mount with mount -t nfs server:/home/jrhutchins /mntpnt |
| 21:38.13 | jhutchins | stangeland: Remove strange character. |
| 21:38.22 | zophy | with git, how can i use .git/info/exclude to exclude all files in a directory but still have git add the directory itself to the repository ? |
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| 21:38.44 | stangeland | jhutchins, you mean * ? |
| 21:38.49 | jhutchins | stangeland: Delete whatever you see between /media and the asterisk, replace it with a single space. |
| 21:39.06 | jhutchins | stangeland: I'm guessing you see a space there, but it's something else. |
| 21:39.13 | tremon | jhutchins: oh, sure. but the goal (as I understood) is to be able to mount something under /home/jrhutchins/mntpnt and still have it accessible from clients that have mounted /home/jrhutchins |
| 21:39.57 | jhutchins | tremon: Well, that should work. |
| 21:40.17 | jhutchins | tremon: iirc nfs doesn't care about the structure of the filesystem under the share. |
| 21:40.41 | stangeland | jhutchins, no that had no effect |
| 21:41.10 | jhutchins | stangeland: What are you using for a guide? |
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| 21:41.15 | jhutchins | !nfs |
| 21:41.15 | dpkg | Network File System (NFS) is a distributed file system protocol developed by Sun Microsystems. To set up and secure, read the Linux NFS-HOWTO at http://nfs.sf.net/nfs-howto/ . For notes on NFSv4 in Debian, see /usr/share/doc/nfs-common/README.Debian.nfsv4. Mailing list: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-nfs . http://wiki.debian.org/NFS http://nfs.sf.net/ #linux-nfs on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:41.30 | tremon | I thought nfs exported by inode, and didn't cross mountpoint boundaries. But it's been awhile since I've had to dig into it |
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| 21:41.56 | stangeland | jhutchins, this is how my /etc/exports looks like on server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8172708/ |
| 21:42.19 | jhutchins | stangeland: I believe there's a step after configuring the share to actually get it exported. |
| 21:42.34 | stangeland | jhutchins, im using my memory as guide |
| 21:42.49 | stangeland | jhutchins, yes exportfs -a but i have done that |
| 21:42.52 | jhutchins | stangeland: paste it again here. |
| 21:43.19 | jhutchins | stangeland: once you've edited it and re-exported to a showmount -e |
| 21:43.34 | jhutchins | do showmount -e |
| 21:43.38 | stangeland | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.54 | jhutchins | stangeland: Ok, looks clean this time. |
| 21:44.06 | stangeland | Export list for compute-0-0.local: /media * |
| 21:44.21 | jhutchins | stangeland: xlnt! Now showmount -e on a client. |
| 21:44.44 | jhutchins | showmount -e compute-0-0.local |
| 21:45.06 | stangeland | jhutchins, that shows the same |
| 21:45.21 | jhutchins | stangeland: Great! Off you go then, mount stuff. |
| 21:45.32 | stangeland | jhutchins, yes, i have |
| 21:45.36 | stangeland | and it mounts |
| 21:45.37 | stangeland | but |
| 21:45.52 | stangeland | i cannot see things inside subdirectory |
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| 21:46.17 | tremon | stangeland: I gotta go. But on the off chance that I'm remembering something useful here, I think you need to provide some sort of mount hook that explicitly calls exportfs /media/$new_mnt *($opts) after mount |
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| 21:46.56 | stangeland | like on compute-0-0 (the server) i have mounted a harddisk /dev/sdc1 on /media/DISKIP, so on the client i can see DISKIP after mount, but i cannot see the contents of DISKIP |
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| 21:47.23 | stangeland | hmm |
| 21:47.39 | jhutchins | stangeland: I would read the howto and trim back your options. |
| 21:47.57 | stangeland | jhutchins, what howtp? |
| 21:48.05 | stangeland | *howto |
| 21:49.18 | jhutchins | stangeland: no_subtree_check is the default. |
| 21:49.32 | jhutchins | stangeland: http://nfs.sf.net/nfs-howto/ |
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| 21:51.22 | stangeland | jhutchins, yes...so then i guess its ok to write that in the export list |
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| 21:51.40 | jhutchins | stangeland: Has no effect, may be invalid. |
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| 21:53.53 | stangeland | jhutchins, removing that had no effect :( |
| 21:54.13 | jhutchins | so there are files or just folders in /media? |
| 21:54.27 | hey_joe | anyone really, really good with debian security? |
| 21:54.38 | jhutchins | hey_joe: Yes, many people. |
| 21:54.40 | jhutchins | !ask |
| 21:54.41 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:54.54 | stangeland | jhutchins, there are folders and in those folders there are files |
| 21:55.21 | jhutchins | stangeland: what do you see in the mounted FS? |
| 21:55.40 | jhutchins | stangeland: It is mounted? check mount. |
| 21:55.45 | stangeland | jhutchins, wait...sorry i am making some mistake |
| 21:55.58 | stangeland | jhutchins, you are right something is weird in the actual mount |
| 21:56.18 | stangeland | its empty for some reason |
| 21:56.29 | hey_joe | well I have a site, that allows users to register and receive a shell account. I have hardened the system as much as I can, but was interested in seeing if anyone could find any holes |
| 21:56.36 | hey_joe | so if anyone is up for the task, PM me |
| 21:56.55 | jhutchins | hey_joe: There are commercial services that will audit your site's security. |
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| 21:57.24 | hey_joe | jhutchins: i know that |
| 21:57.29 | hey_joe | jhutchins: but thanks |
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| 22:01.01 | jhutchins | stangeland: Check ownership and permissions, and do bring up that guide. Time for me to hit the road. |
| 22:01.17 | jhutchins | stangeland: I might check in later, so let me know how it goes. |
| 22:01.18 | stangeland | jhutchins, thanks for yer help |
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| 22:15.12 | ifdsahidsnxy | hi, i mounted an 2TB dm crypt usb hdd, when i want to see the deteils of an folder i end up getting these error messages http://paste.debian.net/118092/ from nautilus. ran nautilus as root, running debian jessie gnome shell. i have no idea what that error means |
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| 22:17.12 | ompaul | ifdsahidsnxy: you shouldn't run nautilus as root it's not good for your settings and one mistake and all is dead |
| 22:18.24 | ompaul | cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdXXX my_encrypted_volume where XXX is the sd number of the disk |
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| 22:18.25 | ifdsahidsnxy | ok, so i have to change access rights first |
| 22:18.32 | ompaul | eh no |
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| 22:19.18 | ompaul | as root try that mkdir /media/my_device mount /dev/mapper/my_encrypted_volume /media/my_device |
| 22:19.36 | ompaul | what are people who don't understand root doing encrypting things |
| 22:19.53 | ompaul | access is easy to a working machine - but screw it up and game over |
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| 22:20.11 | ompaul | and I didn't mean root - but who don't understand permissions |
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| 22:20.19 | ompaul | the permissions are inside the encrypted container |
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| 22:27.06 | jen29 | i have a site i have served with apache and i can view it in my browser with http://mylocalIP/mysite but other computers on my LAN can't view the site in their browsers |
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| 22:28.09 | ompaul | and they too use the ip? |
| 22:28.21 | ompaul | jen29: ^^ |
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| 22:28.49 | jen29 | ompaul: yes they also try using the same ip for my machine |
| 22:29.08 | jhutchins | jen29: THe format of the allow,deny directives has changed. |
| 22:29.12 | ompaul | jen29: can you ping the clients and can they ping you |
| 22:29.14 | ompaul | ahh |
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| 22:29.48 | jhutchins | stangeland: Progress? |
| 22:29.51 | jen29 | jhutchins: sorry i don't know what that means. i just installed apache today |
| 22:29.56 | funnyfingers | Tried debian-next but it is dead. I use Deabian 8 and with no updates I try to login to Gnome and it takes a while the mouse arrow is a cursor and then gets to the desktop and logs off. I tried KDE plasma and it gives an error says unable to call inusertmp an says to check the disk space which I have 20% free. Ran an upgrade from terminal 1 and rebooted and still the same thing. |
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| 22:30.33 | sexyboy | funnyfingers: sounds like a crashing gnome |
| 22:30.43 | funnyfingers | how about kde? |
| 22:30.48 | sexyboy | it exists |
| 22:31.28 | funnyfingers | do you know of anything I can look at to narrow down the problem? |
| 22:31.41 | sexyboy | try dmesg for the start |
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| 22:31.57 | sexyboy | it contains segfault information in case of segfaults |
| 22:32.37 | jhutchins | jen29: Then you have some documentation to read. |
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| 22:33.19 | jhutchins | jen29: Start with README files in /usr/share/doc/apache* - they will explain any packaging changes unique to Debian (if any). |
| 22:33.48 | jhutchins | jen29: The documentation on the apache web site is excellent and fairly well organized. |
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| 22:34.11 | jhutchins | jen29: You probably need to adjust the <DIRECTORY> stanzas for your site in sites-available. |
| 22:34.29 | funnyfingers | sexyboy nothing seems odd there and the last log there is [ 4.683932] MacPhyMode: SINGLEMAC_SINGLEPHY |
| 22:34.45 | jen29 | jhutchins: that wasn't it. i just tried again while disabling ufw and was able to connect. so it was the firewall |
| 22:34.49 | jen29 | but thanks for the info |
| 22:35.18 | sexyboy | funnyfingers: im unsure where gnome logs stuff but have a look at xorg logs in /var/log/Xorg.?.log |
| 22:35.42 | funnyfingers | tail /var/log/gdm3/:0.log gives a segmentation fault |
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| 22:36.03 | ompaul | and nobody said the pings don't work |
| 22:36.10 | jhutchins | jen29: Ok, that's something that changed in 2.4, and it's caught a few people off-guard. |
| 22:36.10 | ompaul | they just fail and give you timeouts |
| 22:36.22 | funnyfingers | ok that references /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 22:36.29 | abrotman | that's not the gnome log |
| 22:36.37 | sexyboy | no one said it was |
| 22:37.27 | abrotman | funnyfingers: Try another DM like slim or lightdm |
| 22:37.41 | funnyfingers | sorry gotta go out with the wife and kids now. Will try that out and let you know how it goes. |
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| 22:37.56 | abrotman | has a similar issue with gdm3 he hasn't debugged yet |
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| 23:08.09 | codeyman | so I can cancel it's installation |
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| 23:11.00 | jordila | dear #debian community ... i would like to report a bug in my Debian Jessie ... can anyone point me to the correspondet IRC #channel ? thanks |
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| 23:40.26 | Egla | Hey guys. I've just installed wheezy and I got a problem with cifs on boot -- BUT: only with one share. o.O I have three entrys, one mounts /srv/Multimedia, one /home/username/Data and one /var/backups/system. And ONLY the last one fails on startup. but mount -a mounts it. I don't get it. |
| 23:41.27 | Egla | --> //192.168.0.2/backup-pc1 /var/backups/system cifs credentials=/home/username/.smbpasswd,uid=username,gid=groupname,iocharset=utf8,_netdev 0 0 |
| 23:44.13 | Egla | The thing is that it seems to have something to do with the mount point. If I try to mount it to /home/username/test, it works. So why can't I mount to /var/backups/mydir? It worked on Ubuntu before |
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| 23:47.33 | b4tm4n | i am trying to set up an AP using my RPi, but hostap is seg faulting - any thoughts? |
| 23:48.10 | Brigo | b4tm4n, strace it ... |
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| 23:51.48 | inthl | I am having issues with cgroups; after configuring it and creating a group I do see the tasks-file in the group-directory. however any write of a PID fails with "write error: No space left on device". why is that? |
| 23:53.32 | TJP | Anyone know why Angry IP Scanner wont return hostnames or any other info? I mean it gives me some stuff, but not much. Running Advanced IP Scanner on a parallel Win 8 pc gives me tones of info |
| 23:54.47 | TJP | I am constructing a live usb for others on my team to work off of in the field, but they are not at home in the terminal. I need them to be able to identify a specific device on an unknown network. We can do so by mac address or by Manufacturer |
| 23:55.53 | TJP | I tried Zenmap but it doesn't seem to have a good list view that they would be comfortable with |
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