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| 00:32.20 | konverse | qwk: http://download.pureftpd.org/pub/pure-ftpd/doc/README.Virtual-Users |
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| 00:33.15 | konverse | LDAP and SQL). Instead, it uses command-line options. For instance, the '-H' |
| 00:33.15 | konverse | flag is designed to speed up highly loaded servers, by avoiding DNS lookups. |
| 00:33.15 | konverse | To enable this, just add it to the server name: |
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| 00:34.23 | physixer | is there a difference between xserver-xorg-video-intel and xfree86-video-intel? |
| 00:34.42 | physixer | any open source intel video driver? |
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| 00:38.35 | abrotman | physixer: where are yo useeing these? |
| 00:38.58 | phogg | physixer: I would assume that the former is a newer version of the latter |
| 00:39.42 | physixer | I'm using xserver-xorg-video-intel from wheezy repository but it's giving me problem on dell c400 laptop with intel 830M graphics |
| 00:40.01 | abrotman | Right .. so where do you see the other? |
| 00:40.15 | abrotman | I can almost guarantee you don't want anyhting that says xfree86 |
| 00:40.44 | physixer | abrotman: the other is on internet. The freedesktop link refers to it by that name. It's also the name of the arch linux driver I think. |
| 00:40.56 | abrotman | arch isn't debian, not relevant |
| 00:41.00 | abrotman | physixer: URL ? |
| 00:41.01 | physixer | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/ |
| 00:41.56 | physixer | ok so slightly different name xf86 instead of xfree86 |
| 00:41.57 | abrotman | physixer: Right .. that's the intel driver in Wheezy |
| 00:42.11 | abrotman | physixer: lspci -nn .. what's the actual Device? |
| 00:43.51 | physixer | abrotman: lspci -nn ... http://paste.debian.net/118434 |
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| 00:44.52 | abrotman | jeez, how old is that? |
| 00:45.16 | abrotman | Do you really have a PCMCIA card in there? |
| 00:45.48 | abrotman | physixer: a) look for a bios update b) what's the difficulty you're having? |
| 00:46.08 | physixer | abrotman: I got the laptop from a friend. Yes it's an old laptop, kind of a challenge project lol |
| 00:47.22 | physixer | abrotman: so vanilla boot gives blank screen and no response (doesn't get to login prompt), nomodeset or i915.modeset=0 or acpi=0 let's me login but startx fails |
| 00:47.26 | cynicallemon | physixer: is that a dell c400 latitude with an external cd/dvd? |
| 00:47.57 | physixer | cynicallemon: my friend gave me an external drive yes but I never used it |
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| 00:48.58 | physixer | abrotman: for startx, xserver-xorg-video-fbdev succeeds but 8-bit colors, xserver-xorg-video-vesa succeeds but 640x480 16-bit. I need 1024x768 16/24-bit colors |
| 00:49.02 | cynicallemon | physixer: yeah i had an ex work one but gave up with linux on it about 3 years ago due to video issues |
| 00:49.38 | abrotman | physixer: how did you install X? |
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| 00:50.12 | physixer | cynicallemon: since intel 830m is fairly common card from around that time, are you aware of any bug report or some people being aware of actual problem? |
| 00:50.35 | abrotman | physixer: problem is Dell does the muckymuck with hardware sometimes .. especially in that era |
| 00:50.39 | physixer | abrotman: from apt-get ... I guess I just installed openbox and it installed the dependencies |
| 00:50.52 | abrotman | physixer: aptitude install xorg ? |
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| 00:51.49 | cynicallemon | physixer: i tried everything at the time and yes i followed several web related things about it but the c400 users always said they couldn't get it going with x |
| 00:52.04 | physixer | abrotman: I didn't use aptitude only apt-get, at some point probably I installed xorg after installing openbox |
| 00:52.37 | abrotman | double check |
| 00:52.59 | cynicallemon | physixer: IIRC it was a kernel issue with newer kernels at the time |
| 00:53.52 | abrotman | physixer: there's also the BPO kernel to try |
| 00:53.52 | cynicallemon | physixer: i ended up using it as a command line beast until it died |
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| 00:56.34 | physixer | abrotman: I have a 'install xorg' command after and 'install openbox obmenu obconf' yes |
| 00:56.40 | physixer | abrotman: in the command history |
| 00:57.38 | physixer | cynicallemon: yeah I'm pretty happy with what I've achieved with in in the last 36 hours. Just thinking if I can milk it even further lol |
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| 01:00.27 | physixer | abrotman: abrotman: i'm willing to try it. but would need some help with instructions. |
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| 01:02.32 | cynicallemon | physixer: dont forget the xinit package with xorg as startx wont work |
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| 01:02.59 | physixer | cynicallemon: ok I don't remember installing xinit explicitly |
| 01:04.11 | cynicallemon | physixer: just do a dpkg -l | grep xinit |
| 01:04.39 | physixer | abrotman: cynicallemon: just recalled the debian installer welcome screen looked good. Had background wallpaper and good resolution. If the wallpaper was more than 8-bit colors then I'd be interested in finding out how the installer did it. Do you think that might help? |
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| 01:05.13 | Densukke | hello |
| 01:05.35 | Densukke | anyone with apache experience? |
| 01:05.49 | nkuttler | !anyone |
| 01:05.50 | dpkg_ | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 01:05.53 | physixer | cynicallemon: just checked. xinit is installed |
| 01:06.07 | Densukke | Im unable to get the custome error messages to work for example : 401 or 403 |
| 01:06.09 | Densukke | anyone? |
| 01:06.43 | nkuttler | Densukke: what did you try to make this happen? |
| 01:07.14 | cynicallemon | physixer: ok :) |
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| 01:07.26 | nkuttler | Densukke: fwiw, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/custom-error.html , and #httpd for generic apache support |
| 01:07.31 | Densukke | tried adding it to .htaccess, used a php file, used the <Files and <FilesMatch variable |
| 01:07.35 | Densukke | none of them worked |
| 01:07.54 | Densukke | I have read them nkuttler.. just can seem to get it to work |
| 01:08.06 | nkuttler | Densukke: htaccess might not be enabled, php has nothing to do with this, no idea about the latter |
| 01:08.29 | nkuttler | Densukke: well, what did you *do*? pastebin your relevant config |
| 01:08.30 | Densukke | htaccess is enabled because i get the login prompt |
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| 01:08.55 | Densukke | I cant get the error page on , when the cancel button is pressed |
| 01:09.02 | abrotman | physixer: probably used the vesa driver |
| 01:09.10 | Densukke | comming right up |
| 01:09.21 | nkuttler | Densukke: that starts to sound like an app/framework-level problem.. |
| 01:10.53 | Densukke | here is 000-default: pastebin.org/7sf7eRC5 |
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| 01:11.23 | nkuttler | Densukke: that link redirects to / |
| 01:12.34 | Densukke | my bad |
| 01:12.36 | jmcnaught | Densukke: yeah that link didn't work. This channel also prefers http://paste.debian.net/ and if you make your links complete URLs they're easier for the rest of us to click |
| 01:12.37 | Densukke | use .com |
| 01:13.00 | Densukke | www.pastebin.com/7sf7eRC5 |
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| 01:13.40 | nkuttler | Densukke: i don't see any ErrorDocument |
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| 01:14.11 | Densukke | i set it in the htacess comming up: www.pastebin.com/R7LLKSgv |
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| 01:15.00 | cynicallemon | physixer: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=11560 - someone suggested using the liqourix kernel |
| 01:15.25 | cynicallemon | physixer: thats one thing i never tried |
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| 01:15.50 | physixer | abrotman: I'm wondering how can I find out if my xserver-xorg-video-intel version is older or newer than the Ubuntu 10.04 version. Acc to this link (3rd to last comment) someone had his/her dell c400 video issues fixed with Ubuntu 10.04 install: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/305909 |
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| 01:16.26 | pfdotn | physixer: have you tried dmesg -l|grep xserver-xorg-video-intel ? |
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| 01:17.53 | physixer | pfdotn: you mean dpkg? dpkg gives version 2:2.19.0-6 |
| 01:18.01 | pfdotn | yes, sorry, heh. |
| 01:18.03 | pfdotn | Had a brainfart. |
| 01:18.28 | Densukke | and here the error.php file: www.pastebin.com/1PwywXmp |
| 01:18.50 | physixer | pfdotn: haha np. I'm now trying to find Ubuntu 10.04's version |
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| 01:19.01 | pfdotn | Does Ubuntu have a packages.ubuntu.com or something? |
| 01:19.23 | Densukke | authentications works... just can seem to get it to go to the error page upon the pressing of the cancel button |
| 01:19.29 | physixer | pfdotn: apparently yes |
| 01:19.31 | pfdotn | Oh. Look at that. It does. |
| 01:19.32 | pfdotn | heh |
| 01:19.39 | physixer | cynicallemon: thanks, I gotta read up on that link. |
| 01:20.13 | cynicallemon | physixer: i think 9.10 was the last ubuntu to boot fine on my c400 |
| 01:21.12 | Densukke | nkuttler you around? |
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| 01:21.50 | physixer | cynicallemon: if there are distro versions that have worked on c400 then it should be doable in principle |
| 01:22.09 | jmcnaught | Densukke: have you checked the error logs for that virtualhost? |
| 01:23.56 | Densukke | nothing in error logs |
| 01:24.18 | physixer | would it possible to replace my current intel driver package with one in Ubuntu 10.04 from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/x11/xserver-xorg-video-intel ? |
| 01:24.26 | cynicallemon | physixer: yeah, you probably wont have any trouble running an older version of a linux distro, its just that if you can still update one it will probably kill xorg |
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| 01:25.47 | jmcnaught | physixer: i doubt that would work. Distros aren't meant to be mix-and-match, installing packages from an ancient Ubuntu release will just cause more problems |
| 01:26.03 | abrotman | physixer: you could just try to upgrade to jessie |
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| 01:27.38 | physixer | abrotman: jessie is in testing? and testing is like beta? |
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| 01:35.15 | jvelasquez | hi. I want to take my work to home with me and my boss says it could have sensitive data in it, could anyone recommend a partition encryption solution. some way to conveniently encrypt a partition or virtual partition or something? |
| 01:35.22 | cynicallemon | physixer: check this out too, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=78762 |
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| 01:38.01 | physixer | cynicallemon: ok a question about liquorix kernel. I has instructions for sid not wheezy. Should I add "deb http://liquorix.net/debian sid main" to my wheezy sources list or not a good idea? |
| 01:38.18 | physixer | cynicallemon: from here: liquorix.net |
| 01:38.59 | themill | jvelasquez: the installer can set up a fully encrypted install (everything on lvm inside luks except for a /boot outside to get it all going). Alternatively, you can just encrypt /home or some other filesystem -- once again, luks is the standard here |
| 01:39.33 | physixer | I guess sid means unstable, not a previous version |
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| 01:40.56 | themill | physixer: you'd have to ask the liquorix people that -- we cannot support those kernel packages in #debian |
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| 01:41.35 | qwk | how can I make so the user can see witch directory it is in? Now its just look like this http://puu.sh/bePE9/a541dc7b6f.png |
| 01:41.40 | cynicallemon | physixer: its looks like the only liquorix kernel available, your choice i guess |
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| 01:42.45 | physixer | cynicallemon: if I install it I'll have a choice to boot into either this or default kernel? |
| 01:42.52 | physixer | on grub? |
| 01:44.53 | cynicallemon | physixer: yeah i would say so but just do an update-grub after to be sure - im assuming the liquorix kernel wont remove the current kernel |
| 01:46.27 | physixer | cynicallemon: ok thanks. I'm gonna give it a go |
| 01:46.59 | cynicallemon | ok |
| 01:47.04 | cynicallemon | good luck |
| 01:47.56 | rryoumaa | jvelasquez: my understanding is that in the installer it is also possible to have everything except boot encrypted, without using lvm |
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| 01:49.14 | jvelasquez | themill, rryoumaa: thank you. I'm downloading a debian disk image now. |
| 01:50.30 | themill | jvelasquez: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html#di-partition |
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| 02:22.48 | physixer | ok the story so far: liquorix kernel install attempt has led me down the rabbit-hole of smxi ... liquorix only keeps latest kernel in its main deb, I had unmet dependencies, I searched liquorix forums (techpatterns.com) and the tech admin has answered that he maintains old kernel version in the smxi. I went to smxi.org and its apparently a script for maintaining a debian OS. What is that? can anyone help me with what smxi does and wh |
| 02:23.29 | abrotman | physixer: no, we really can't .. we have no idea what that stuff is |
| 02:23.37 | abrotman | would think it would be easier to dist-upgrade to jessie |
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| 02:25.33 | jmcnaught | physixer: last i checked smxi is a script that automates a bunch of stuff that isn't supported here, like installing GPU drivers the wrong way. Did you at least try a newer kernel from wheezy-backports before the liquorix kernel (which is not from Debian and not supported here) |
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| 02:31.28 | mintgreen | how to extract tar.bz2 files? |
| 02:31.50 | abrotman | mintgreen: man tar |
| 02:32.53 | physixer | jmcnaught: I haven't tried a wheezy-backports kernel, I guess I should take a look into that first |
| 02:34.18 | jmcnaught | physixer: if the issue is with the xorg intel driver a different kernel might not fix your issue. Have you researched the pci-id for your graphics card? If you do "lspci -nn | grep VGA" it should give you a number like [abcd:1234] |
| 02:34.41 | abrotman | jmcnaught: 830M is pretty old, but it's a Dell box |
| 02:35.01 | physixer | jmcnaught: yes my lscpci -nn is here, http://paste.debian.net/118434 |
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| 02:36.07 | physixer | jmcnaught: though I don't know what you mean by 'research the pci-id', meaning google it? |
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| 02:39.31 | physixer | the wheezy-backports instructions (scottlinux.com) say I might also need to install firmware besides kernel backport. How can I know which firmware will need to be installed? also is xserver-xorg-video-intel a firmware? |
| 02:39.46 | physixer | https://scottlinux.com/2013/11/23/how-to-install-newer-kernel-from-debian-wheezy-backports/ |
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| 02:41.05 | jmcnaught | physixer: you can search them here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ Also it looks like you might have the same problem as here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622695 which directs the original submitter to check /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/README.Debian to enable KMS |
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| 02:42.30 | cynicallemon | it was KMS that started the trouble i think |
| 02:42.36 | jmcnaught | physixer: See the instructions at http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ and also "/msg dpkg_ bpo kernel" |
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| 02:43.43 | ruukasu | is there any way to have apt-get warn me before installing from non-free and contrib? |
| 02:44.59 | Densukke | jmcnaught you around? |
| 02:45.12 | abrotman | ruukasu: just don't setup the sources? |
| 02:45.34 | ruukasu | abrotman: but I need them, I just don't want to use them accidentally, as I did earlier |
| 02:45.46 | abrotman | !tell ruukasu about vrms |
| 02:45.56 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ruukasu about vrms |
| 02:46.01 | abrotman | grr ... |
| 02:46.01 | jmcnaught | Densukke: i just said something a couple of minutes ago :) also you can just address the channel and if anyone can help they will |
| 02:46.11 | ruukasu | I use vrms extensively, that's how I found out I had a nonfree package |
| 02:46.24 | ruukasu | I just want something like |
| 02:46.26 | abrotman | ruukasu: AFAIK, no way to do it beforehand |
| 02:46.28 | Densukke | I had... several minutes ago back...and got no reply :( |
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| 02:46.39 | abrotman | ruukasu: other than to remove the sources until you need them |
| 02:47.37 | ruukasu | ;_; |
| 02:47.51 | abrotman | I don't know what that means, use your words |
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| 02:52.39 | pfsense_rookie | ruukasu, you can also try reducing the priority of the package, but you probably won't be notified when a more up to date version is available. |
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| 02:53.05 | jmcnaught | Densukke: so the "error-code.php" in your ErrorDocument directive is relative to your DocumentRoot? And there is nothing relevant in your logs when you try to trigger the error? |
| 02:53.09 | pfsense_rookie | ruukasu, would this be fine in your case? |
| 02:54.14 | Densukke | yes and no |
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| 02:55.36 | Densukke | there must be something really stupid that im missing... |
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| 02:57.05 | jmcnaught | Densukke: have you tried doing it differently, like putting the ErrorDocument in the virtualhost file instead of .htaccess, using a different file for the error message. Is there anything in the apache logs, are you sure you're checking the right place? |
| 02:57.11 | physixer | jmcnaught: So I read the README.Debian and the bugs.debian.org link ... I have already exhausted the options mentioned in there. My KMS is already enabled, that itself gives black screen. If I disable it, I can log in in text mode, but still no X (startx fails). For X, fbdev gives lower depth (8-bit colors) and vesa gives lower resolution (640x480). Some forums seem to report this problem after upgrading their OS'es that means probabl |
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| 03:05.39 | jmcnaught | physixer: You could try with a newer kernel from wheezy-backports, or consider upgrading to Jessie (that has its own caveats though). It looks like there are several bug reports about this GPU around, some of them have people reporting that workarounds using different configurations in xorg.conf has worked for them. |
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| 03:16.53 | Densukke | jmcnaught :D |
| 03:17.02 | Densukke | yeah definately not having any luck |
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| 03:20.18 | jmcnaught | Densukke: well I don't know what you've just tried and I can't really see the results you're getting. You could try #httpd |
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| 03:21.00 | Densukke | i have and they send me to read stuff..when I have googled and read many hours alreaady into this |
| 03:22.39 | Densukke | I´ve tried pretty much everything... configuring .htaccess, on Vhost , using a .php file, plain .html... and still unable to get the page to be redirected to the custom 401 page upon pressing cancel on login prompt |
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| 03:25.28 | jmcnaught | Densukke: does it work as expected for any other errors, like 404? Have you tried using a simple html file instead of PHP? It's quite possible the stuff they're directing you to read is more relevant than the stuff you've read from google |
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| 03:28.20 | Densukke | actually yes |
| 03:28.25 | Densukke | i Just tried and 404 works |
| 03:28.36 | Densukke | but 401 is a NO go |
| 03:33.21 | jmcnaught | Densukke: does 401 work properly with just text instead of a file? |
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| 03:34.08 | Densukke | how can I check that out? |
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| 03:36.06 | jmcnaught | Densukke: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#errordocument see the documentation for that directive, you can specify a message instead of a file.. see if that works. Also have you been checking both the access and error logs, or just the error logs? |
| 03:36.17 | Densukke | what comes odd to me, is not the idea of the page not going toward the 401 error page, more than it actually loads the main site but broken, without images... |
| 03:37.24 | jmcnaught | Densukke: do you mean that unauthenticated users are able to access the site, but images don't load? |
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| 03:37.45 | Densukke | exactly, i cancel the login, and still loads up |
| 03:37.57 | Densukke | and it wont go to the error page as directed |
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| 03:49.09 | jmcnaught | Densukke: I see, from what you were saying earlier I thought the problem was that apache's default error page was being displayed instead of your custom one. It looks like you need to review the authentication docs: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/auth.html . For what it's worth, I don't know why you've split the config between virtualhost and .htaccess. The issue also might be that you're missing the "AuthBasicProvider file" directive. |
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| 03:51.14 | jmcnaught | Densukke: nah.. "AuthBasicProvider file" would be the default so that being absent is not likely the issue |
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| 03:53.09 | Densukke | let me go through the link... brb |
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| 04:01.05 | Macer | hi |
| 04:01.08 | Macer | /home/hts/tvh/dvbhdhomerun-0.0.15/kernel/dvb_hdhomerun_data.c:22:20: fatal error: dvbdev.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:01.21 | Macer | does anybody now what pkg the dvbdev.h include file is a part of? |
| 04:01.28 | Macer | i'm at a loss |
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| 04:03.30 | jmcnaught | Macer: you can use apt-file for that kind of search, but it's quite possible this dvbhdhomerun software requires libraries that are not in the Debian repositories |
| 04:04.21 | Macer | i see |
| 04:04.26 | Macer | i see the file in the kernel src |
| 04:04.31 | Macer | but i suppose it's not in the headers? :/ |
| 04:05.05 | Rusty1 | apt-file search dvbdev.h and apt-file search dvbdev-dev came up empty here FWIE , unstable, testing |
| 04:05.18 | Rusty1 | *FWIW |
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| 04:06.46 | Macer | i see :/ |
| 04:06.49 | Macer | no idea what it's lookign for then |
| 04:06.57 | jmcnaught | yeah same here, Macer where did you find that file? This software you're attempting to install, are you following its INSTALL and README instructions? Others might be able to help if you give a better description of what you're trying to do and pastebin complete output |
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| 04:20.21 | Macer | jmcnaught: yeah.. it was part of the tvheadend page's instructions on how to configure a hdhomerun for tvheadend |
| 04:20.33 | Macer | i just gave up on it. it seems that people have far better luck with mythtv so i'll try that instead |
| 04:21.26 | Macer | thanks for the help anyways tho. i appreciate it. |
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| 04:22.15 | Abbott | hey guys I'm trying to upgrade a single package to it's jessie release on a wheezy system but I'm having trouble. I am trying to use backports because it seems to be the easiest way to not break your system but i'm having some trouble |
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| 04:23.54 | Abbott | I added "deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main" to my /etc/apt/sources.list, ran "apt-get update", then "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install package" but it says that my current wheezy version is up to date |
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| 04:29.05 | Rusty1 | Abbott: what does apt-cache policy <packagename> return |
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| 04:31.06 | Abbott | I can't copy paste because I only have access to this machine right now, but installed and candidate are both the same version |
| 04:31.22 | LtL | Abbott: the package could be in contrib or non-free, or doesn't exist in backports |
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| 04:34.44 | Abbott | i just searched the backports and it appears that the jessie version is not there. What would be my second option for installing a jessie package? |
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| 04:37.43 | squisher | evening, I'm trying to mount an nfs share, but I get an rpc.statd error "failed to create RPC listeners, exiting" |
| 04:38.30 | squisher | it's working just fine on my sid box, but the wheezy laptop doesn't like it... |
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| 04:43.58 | themill | Abbott: specifically which package is this? |
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| 04:56.12 | blackjack_ | guys. whats the real use of watchdog? |
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| 04:58.34 | Abbott | themill deluge |
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| 05:01.53 | blackjack | ok i got it now |
| 05:01.57 | blackjack | nevermind. |
| 05:02.00 | phuh | what makes debian a better os than ubuntu? |
| 05:02.18 | blackjack | not just ubuntu phuh. also centos |
| 05:02.25 | phuh | why ? |
| 05:02.36 | blackjack | i also dont know. lol |
| 05:02.47 | blackjack | maybe because they have more dedicated community? |
| 05:02.48 | phuh | why don't you use ubuntu |
| 05:02.58 | blackjack | its bloated |
| 05:03.00 | blackjack | in some way |
| 05:03.03 | phuh | ubuntu is? |
| 05:03.49 | blackjack | beside debian is more solid. for a fact that it stayed longer than an ubuntu |
| 05:03.53 | blackjack | besides* |
| 05:04.02 | blackjack | its just a derivative |
| 05:04.44 | blackjack | but phuh do you like ubuntu much better? |
| 05:04.49 | blackjack | like linux mint? |
| 05:04.55 | phuh | i've only tried ubuntu |
| 05:05.05 | blackjack | oh sorry. i forgot mint is also a debian now |
| 05:05.05 | phuh | and saw that google runs debian, not ubuntu |
| 05:05.17 | blackjack | you saw google? how? |
| 05:05.26 | blackjack | google doesnt disclose anything about their servers |
| 05:05.36 | phuh | now they do |
| 05:05.39 | themill | Abbott: deluge isn't in wheezy-backports at all |
| 05:05.57 | peterrooney | very offtopic, if an actual question comes up, I'm dropping this, but... roughly speaking, ubuntu is based on debian's beta release, aka testing. as in, testing is the potential distribution that is being tested by the debian project, and is known to have large numbers of serious bugs and issues. |
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| 05:06.29 | blackjack | i remember deluge, its a torrenting p2p client i used to use in windows coz its way safer than sheraza or bittorrent |
| 05:06.55 | phuh | is wheezy version similar to ubuntu's LTS? |
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| 05:07.37 | blackjack | phuh, you heard peterrooney |
| 05:07.52 | blackjack | no ubuntu is debian |
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| 05:07.55 | squisher | I don't think that's an unreasonable question |
| 05:08.34 | peterrooney | it's totally unreasonable. there are ten thousand metrics possible for "better" |
| 05:09.30 | blackjack | squisher: usually the helpers here likes to answer questions that really could help a problem of someone using the 'debian' OS, and not just answer question that you can ask in a google search engine |
| 05:09.33 | squisher | phuh, debian stable is supported a little shorter than ubuntu LTS afaik |
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| 05:10.16 | squisher | but there is a currently an experiment going on to support the past stable release a little longer |
| 05:10.31 | phuh | squisher: i see so that must be ubuntu's edge over debian. long term support period |
| 05:10.54 | blackjack | yeah it needed to supported anyway. coz it has many bugs to begin with.. |
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| 05:11.56 | peterrooney | ,v deluge |
| 05:11.57 | judd | Package: deluge on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.3+git20110209.8c36830-0squeeze1; wheezy: 1.3.3-2+nmu1; jessie: 1.3.6-1.1; sid: 1.3.6-1.1 |
| 05:12.10 | peterrooney | ,v transmission |
| 05:12.11 | judd | Package: transmission on i386 -- squeeze: 2.03-2; wheezy: 2.52-3+nmu1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.52-3+nmu2; wheezy-security: 2.52-3+nmu2; jessie: 2.82-1.1; sid: 2.82-1.1 |
| 05:12.15 | phuh | so i found ubuntu 14.04 LTS is based on debian jessie, which is the testing distribution. this is what peterrooney meant right? |
| 05:12.30 | blackjack | In a default install of debian, is there existing exploit where in if i give someone a shell access, they can locally exploit it still? |
| 05:13.48 | blackjack | yes phuh. and Jessie is a think on 'beta' test strage which he said has many issues and bugs and therefore is not yet tested to be 'stable' |
| 05:14.00 | blackjack | stage* |
| 05:14.05 | phuh | yeah it makes sense now |
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| 05:14.48 | phuh | so do you guys never run a testing version of debian? |
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| 05:15.19 | themill | blackjack: all anyone can say is "probably" |
| 05:16.33 | blackjack | ok themill. i was on a bit of researching about it |
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| 05:18.36 | squisher | phuh, lots of people run testing or unstable. It's just not guaranteed to be as stable as stable ;-) |
| 05:18.53 | blackjack | themill: can you suggest a level of security if in case it that happens? Something that i can install and probably make a malicious shell user to not be able to attain his/her task? Or is their something like a malicious code scanner that scans my system or the home folders which they might probably upload something that i may not like? |
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| 05:20.59 | phuh | squisher: when comparing ubuntu LTS to debian's testing version, would you say ubuntu might have an edge because of its LTS driven by a company? |
| 05:21.26 | squisher | phuh, no |
| 05:22.29 | phuh | in that comparison, are they just about the same then? is debian testing version still considered more solid than ubuntu? |
| 05:22.29 | peterrooney | phuh: again, by what metrics? |
| 05:22.42 | phuh | stability mostly |
| 05:22.58 | phuh | and metrics most crucial for production server requirements |
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| 05:23.05 | cesurasean | trying to copy a file from a dvd drive, and it gets stuck at 220mb remaining. how can i copy it? |
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| 05:24.32 | squisher | cesurasean, ddrescue and/or dd-rescue may help |
| 05:25.57 | Abbott | themill: yeah i saw that. I think i'm just going to update the dependencies as well |
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| 05:26.16 | cesurasean | squisher, how do i use it, and what does it do? |
| 05:26.54 | squisher | cesurasean, they're cli tools which are usually used to copy the complete block device for rescue purposes |
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| 05:27.20 | squisher | they will skip over defective sectors instead of aborting. But maybe you can use them on a file within a filesystem, too |
| 05:28.04 | squisher | cesurasean, usually you'd do something like: ddrescue /dev/sr0 my-dvd-backup.iso; and then loop-mount the resulting image |
| 05:28.35 | cesurasean | yeah but what does it do exactly? |
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| 05:29.12 | squisher | eh, I just described it... if you need more info, read the man page, google it, /usr/share/doc... |
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| 05:31.23 | cesurasean | what does it do though??!! |
| 05:33.06 | cesurasean | what does error splicing file input output error mean? |
| 05:33.13 | rryoumaa | i have a brand new hard drive. smart says zero hours on it. however, it says "200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5" where 5 is the raw value. is this a concern? |
| 05:33.18 | cesurasean | windows 8.1 didnt throw such an error. just kept trying to read the disc. |
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| 05:34.44 | squisher | rryoumaa, smart values are a huge mystery and vendor specific... I'd guess it's probably fine, and I'd always run smart self-tests |
| 05:34.59 | rryoumaa | thanks |
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| 05:45.56 | blackjack | if i type service --status-all |
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| 05:46.01 | blackjack | what does "?" meant |
| 05:46.12 | blackjack | i assume + means its running, and - is not running |
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| 05:46.44 | blackjack | i just dont know the meaning of the marks on the list |
| 05:47.59 | blackjack | and also i tried to initiate the service 'fail2ban' |
| 05:48.04 | blackjack | doing this command ---> service fail2ban start |
| 05:48.13 | blackjack | it told me this |
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| 05:48.27 | blackjack | Starting authentication failure monitor: fail2banSocket file /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock is present ... failed! |
| 05:48.41 | blackjack | does this mean, it failed starting coz its already running on the background? |
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| 06:01.07 | squisher | blackjack, I'd do a service fail2ban restart - see where that leads you |
| 06:01.22 | phy1729 | Is there a way to go from uid to username other than grepping getent passwd? |
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| 06:03.17 | blackjack | sorry Squirrel, i got it now |
| 06:03.22 | blackjack | forgot the sudo part. lol |
| 06:04.17 | blackjack | nice hack question phy1729 |
| 06:04.27 | blackjack | let them answer. im not good at that. lol |
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| 06:05.35 | themill | phy1729: the normal way is getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{print $1}' |
| 06:06.20 | phy1729 | I see, ok |
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| 06:26.46 | beepie | the ftp master for unstable? ( http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian ? ) |
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| 06:34.07 | themill | beepie: ask your real question |
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| 06:38.15 | jmd | I seem to have a package installed which dpkg denies exists. |
| 06:38.26 | jmd | viz: sendmail |
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| 06:39.09 | jmd | I wanted to reconfigure it so I ran "dpkg-reconfigure sendmail" and got "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: sendmail is not installed" |
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| 06:39.44 | themill | you probably don't have sendmail installed (and that's probably a good thing). What makes you say you have the sendmail package installed? |
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| 06:40.09 | jmd | themill because I have been sending and receving mail. |
| 06:40.20 | themill | that does not require sendmail |
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| 06:40.38 | jmd | Well it requires an MTA and sendmail is the one I use. |
| 06:41.11 | themill | what does "dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail" say? |
| 06:41.35 | themill | and "aptitude search ~Pmail-transport-agent~i" |
| 06:41.40 | jmd | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/sbin/sendmail |
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| 06:42.14 | jmd | i sendmail-bin - powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent |
| 06:42.18 | themill | jmd: do you have a /usr/sbin/sendmail at all? |
| 06:42.53 | jmd | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Aug 30 17:13 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> /etc/alternatives/sendmail |
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| 06:43.25 | themill | ah... I didn't realise that the sendmail packages use alternatives there... no other MTA in debian does. |
| 06:43.39 | themill | jmd: anyway, sendmail-bin is the package you have installed, not sendmail. |
| 06:44.16 | jmd | I presume one is a dependency of the other. |
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| 06:44.23 | themill | ,depends sendmail |
| 06:44.24 | judd | Package sendmail in wheezy/i386 -- depends: sendmail-base, sendmail-bin, sendmail-cf, sensible-mda. |
| 06:44.41 | themill | (the sendmail package contains pretty much nothing) |
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| 06:48.15 | jmd | I think my alternatives might be completely screwed. Is there a command to fix them? |
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| 06:49.08 | Snacksicles | hey, I'm upgrading to unstable right now, what sorts of stuff do I need to know? |
| 06:49.17 | Snacksicles | like, reverting packages? |
| 06:49.55 | jmd | Snacksicles: I think the main thing you need to be aware of, is that unstable is - well - unstable. |
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| 06:50.52 | themill | jmd: reinstalling the packages that created them might be enough. |
| 06:51.07 | jmd | themill: There might be a lot ... |
| 06:51.26 | Snacksicles | there's conflicting messages on how unstable unstable is, though. It changes constantly, so in that sense it's thoroughly unstable, but it doesn't necessarily crash daily... |
| 06:52.03 | jmd | themill: Anyway, thanks. |
| 06:52.19 | Snacksicles | unstable is the new "free". Maybe people should talk about unstable as in beer, and unstable as in speech? |
| 06:52.49 | jmd | Snacksicles: Yeah. the word was rather an unfortunate choice. |
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| 06:53.10 | themill | Snacksicles: unless you're unlucky, it won't crash at all. Normally, the time sink is dealing with a moving target and dealing with continual changes to your system, not in recovering from crashes. Sometimes a completely screwed package gets uploaded though and it's the job of unstable users to point that out... |
| 06:53.14 | themill | jmd: oh... all alternatives? |
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| 06:54.25 | Snacksicles | themill: If I spent half an hour thinking about it, I could come up with PLENTY. Like "dynamic". Or a better phrased "movingtarget". |
| 06:54.48 | themill | what? |
| 06:55.06 | jmd | themill: Well cruft is listing 419 /etc/alternatives as "unexplained" |
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| 06:55.32 | jmd | Snacksicles: That would satisfy one aspect. |
| 06:55.50 | jmd | I think they also wanted to convey a "caveat emptor" meaning too. |
| 06:56.35 | themill | unstable is designed for people who know what debian means by that word in that context. If you don't know all these things, you shouldn't be touching it |
| 06:57.07 | themill | jmd: hmm... I didn't know cruft looked at alternatives at all |
| 06:57.24 | jmd | ... but if they don't know that, then they wouldn't know not to touch it ... |
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| 06:58.00 | themill | a scary enough name is enough for that |
| 06:58.00 | jmd | themill: Would it be safe to delete all dangling links in /etc/alternatives ? |
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| 06:58.10 | Snacksicles | "bleeding edge" is a really nice phrase. It's a pity the name wasn't a variation of that. |
| 06:58.15 | Snacksicles | bleeding. |
| 06:58.22 | themill | jmd: hmm... you shouldn't have dangling symlinks there :( |
| 06:58.42 | jmd | I know I shouldn't. Unfortunately I do. |
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| 07:01.10 | themill | Snacksicles: it has existed in this form for almost 15 years. We don't rename it every few years when the cool kids make up a new set of names. |
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| 07:08.17 | Snacksicles | themill: I never suggested renaming it, just that it wasn't the best name in the first place. If it ain't broken, and all that. |
| 07:09.27 | Snacksicles | time to restart, and test out some more updated drivers! Will it make any noticeable impact on my framerates? |
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| 07:48.42 | danlamanna | do a lot of you run testing as your primary OS |
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| 07:56.18 | TomasCZ | danlamanna, depends what set of machines you include under that. |
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| 07:58.14 | TomasCZ | at work I use testing, here since I've installed it quite long time ago, I've just recently did oldstable > stable at least. I would have go for testing problem is not all packages might be there. Besides I need to re-new my personal HW. |
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| 08:00.28 | danlamanna | well i mean for desktop usage. it just seems like testing is pretty far along at this point |
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| 08:06.18 | TomasCZ | danlamanna, true. and if you don't hate ubuntu, then I've read somewhere on one of their sites, that LTR ubuntu is based on debian testing. |
| 08:07.21 | danlamanna | bah humbug. |
| 08:07.34 | danlamanna | glares at canonical. |
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| 08:10.44 | bdunlap | I hope someone here can help me install my bcm4331 wifi module. I am unable to do it with th help I've found on various sites. |
| 08:11.12 | cynicallemon | danlamanna: i run sid on my desktop and laptop too |
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| 08:13.18 | mad_ | I am on wheezy. Can anyone explain this to me: http://dpaste.com/1C9HYKZ ? SSH restarts, but then is no longer available. Yes, most likely I had a Typo when adding AllowTCPForwarding Yes to the sshd_config file. I can imagine this. |
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| 08:13.39 | mad_ | But why the f*** does the initscript claim to restart when infact it failed? |
| 08:14.24 | mad_ | And yes, I should have left a running session open while testing the new connection. And yes, I should not do this on a sunday-morning to a remote machine. |
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| 08:14.45 | mad_ | Yet it really annoys me that the initscirpt just says [ok] <.< |
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| 08:15.37 | mad_ | (And yes, I just 'tried' to add that one option to sshd_config and did not change anything about the post/interfaces) |
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| 08:25.22 | mad_ | So annoying <.< *gets into his car* |
| 08:29.49 | shay_shay | hello. i need to run a task after every kernel upgrade |
| 08:30.17 | shay_shay | is there some kind of postinstall.d/ directory i can use ? |
| 08:30.27 | shay_shay | or some other way i can hook into apt-get |
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| 08:33.45 | rryoumaa | there are hooks at least. etckeeper uses one. |
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| 09:12.20 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, for a few days now i don't know what happened, but any non-HTML5 video freezes at first 2 to 6 seconds of playback. i have reinstalled flash player, but still nothing. what could it be the reason? cheers |
| 09:12.28 | ToApolytoXaos | p.s.: debian testing 64-bit |
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| 09:15.44 | somiaj | What browser are you using? |
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| 09:20.32 | ToApolytoXaos | somiaj, both chromium with pepper and iceweasel behave the same |
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| 09:22.56 | somiaj | did this start after an upgrade? Did you upgrade your video drivers. sounds like flash isn't liking something |
| 09:23.07 | somiaj | ToApolytoXaos: do you use tmpfs for /tmp, is it almost full? |
| 09:23.54 | ToApolytoXaos | i think it's getting empty upon boot or restart; let me check |
| 09:24.41 | somiaj | yea it would be empty after a reboot, but I thinkf lash stores its videos there while html5 does not. Just a thought. |
| 09:24.43 | MY123 | ToApolytoXaos: ARM64 or x86_64 ? |
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| 09:25.21 | MY123 | (goto #debian-next on OFTC) |
| 09:25.43 | ToApolytoXaos | x86_64; tmp is nearly empty |
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| 09:26.35 | somiaj | ToApolytoXaos: what video drivers are you using? Are you sure they are loading correctly. Notice anything strange in 'xvinfo' or /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 09:27.08 | ToApolytoXaos | it's intel chipset onboard asus H87M-PRO |
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| 09:28.49 | tuxy972 | neeed help please. trying to reset my psdddeoer anf grt thr error... |
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| 09:29.32 | ToApolytoXaos | somiaj, no errors in xorg log file |
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| 09:30.48 | tuxy972 | cant accedss tty job control turnrt offf |
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| 09:41.27 | eXiLe | hi |
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| 10:04.34 | evripidou | I noticed that openjdk was installed on my debian. I tried to remove it, but then apt-get wants to install gcj instead. Could someone explain why? |
| 10:04.59 | nkuttler | evripidou: aptitude why openjdk |
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| 10:05.07 | nkuttler | but.. use the actual name |
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| 10:05.54 | evripidou | nkuttler: I don't understand. |
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| 10:06.07 | nkuttler | evripidou: it's a command you can run |
| 10:07.01 | evripidou | nkuttler: oh, thanks a lot! |
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| 10:09.38 | tuxy972 | help please :(p |
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| 10:11.40 | leafwiz | Hey, I have a strange problem with my sound in xfce. Running debian testing. The sound used to work in xfce, then it stopped. I get sound if I run aplay from console (ctrl+alt+F3), and I also get sound if I start aplay from xfce and then switch to console. It seems aplay in xfce locks, like the command hangs, but continues when I go into console.. |
| 10:11.45 | leafwiz | The volume is up in both alsamixer and xfce-mixer |
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| 10:14.43 | cynicallemon | leafwiz: anything is the log files? |
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| 10:14.49 | cynicallemon | *in |
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| 10:20.08 | leafwiz | cynicallemon: I cant see anything relevant in messages |
| 10:20.17 | leafwiz | /var/log/, that is |
| 10:20.51 | leafwiz | cynicallemon: nothing in dmesg either. |
| 10:21.46 | cynicallemon | leafwiz: tempted to blame systemd and/or pulseaudio but then again i always do |
| 10:22.39 | leafwiz | cynicallemon: heh.. I do have virtualbox on my system. |
| 10:22.56 | leafwiz | but the guests doesn't use the soundcard |
| 10:24.26 | cynicallemon | leafwiz: is this the host os or a virtual machine where the problem lies? |
| 10:24.40 | leafwiz | the host os |
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| 10:25.57 | leafwiz | cynicallemon: Hmm.. maybe I can go into alsa and ask.. |
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| 10:26.59 | cynicallemon | yeah |
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| 10:43.50 | rtur | Hey guys. I have to mirrors in two different .list files inside sources.list.d , on both those mirrors is a duplicate package. Can I tell apt to prefer one version over another ? |
| 10:44.00 | rtur | s/to/two |
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| 10:46.15 | rasp_pi | Hello, I wanted to install dropbox on my raspberry pi. How can I install this deb file? |
| 10:46.42 | Brigo | rtur, yes. |
| 10:46.57 | rtur | Brigo: :) How ? |
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| 10:47.34 | towo` | rasp_pi, dpkg -i foobar.deb |
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| 10:48.16 | Brigo | rtur, good, question, i do not know, man apt.conf could help |
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| 10:50.02 | rtur | Brigo: I rather hoped I could pass it to aptitude install or something like that since it should be done on multiple machines. It's un update/install script. |
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| 10:50.46 | Brigo | rtur, may be there is some option, yes, but i has never used it. |
| 10:51.05 | rasp_pi | towo dpkg: error processing /home/pi/Desktop/dropbox_1.6.2_i386.deb (--install): |
| 10:51.23 | towo` | rasp_pi, use your brain |
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| 10:52.00 | rasp_pi | Whats this mean too package architecture (i386) does not match system (armhf) |
| 10:52.03 | towo` | rasp_pi, the raspberry pi ist not i386 arch, its arm |
| 10:52.09 | rasp_pi | wow... |
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| 10:54.26 | rasp_pi | Cannot write to `-' (Broken pipe). |
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| 10:55.56 | bazhang | rasp_pi, is this raspbian? |
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| 10:57.41 | rasp_pi | Yes baz |
| 10:58.02 | nkuttler | !raspbian |
| 10:58.02 | dpkg_ | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 10:58.10 | bazhang | they have their own channel, I'm not sure it's supported here |
| 10:58.27 | rasp_pi | k |
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| 11:06.59 | arnuld | I want to know how to find out what driver Xorg is using on my installation |
| 11:07.01 | arnuld | I am using Squeeze. There is no xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log tells me I am using ati,radeon, vesa and fbdev drivers. |
| 11:07.23 | nkuttler | arnuld: paste.debian.net that file |
| 11:08.08 | backSlasher | current pip breaks with latest "requests" package. Should I file a bug on it? |
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| 11:08.23 | nkuttler | backSlasher: breaks? |
| 11:08.50 | backSlasher | nkuttler, yeah, I think it's the right term. Fails to do anything, even print help |
| 11:09.02 | arnuld | nkuttler: http://paste.debian.net/118538/ |
| 11:10.19 | backSlasher | nkuttler, http://paste.debian.net/118541/ |
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| 11:10.31 | nkuttler | arnuld: that's.. interesting. looks like the radeon one is used though? |
| 11:10.34 | bazhang | why post here backSlasher |
| 11:11.15 | nkuttler | backSlasher: that looks like an upstream problem with requests to me, not debian related |
| 11:11.35 | backSlasher | nkuttler, latest pip works, so I'm wondering if it's a good idea to file a bug |
| 11:11.36 | bazhang | backSlasher, you just said it'd ubuntu |
| 11:12.25 | arnuld | nkuttler: yeah, it seems so |
| 11:12.58 | nkuttler | arnuld: is there a reason you want to know? xorg should autoconfigure just fine nowadays |
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| 11:15.58 | arnuld | nkuttler: can not figure out how X is working here. I am running gNewSense, based on Debian but no binary blob support. X crashes on another distro (PARABOLA) where you do not get binary blob . But it working here. Was trying to figure out why |
| 11:16.20 | ompaul | arnuld: perhaps you might ask in #gnewsense |
| 11:16.32 | arnuld | nkuttler: yeah |
| 11:16.37 | arnuld | nkuttler: right |
| 11:16.50 | backSlasher | bazhang, I apologize. It only happens on Ubuntu. I was sure it would also happen on Debian. |
| 11:16.50 | arnuld | nkuttler: thanks for the help though |
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| 11:24.34 | rasp_pi | is there a way to read a usb over ftp? |
| 11:25.09 | nkuttler | rasp_pi: still the wrong channel. ##linux for generic linux support |
| 11:25.29 | sh\ | hey. debian 7.5 live here. no wireless extention detected |
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| 11:25.35 | sh\ | any suggestion |
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| 11:28.05 | deepblue | writing inodes tables takes so long.how to fix this? |
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| 11:29.13 | SirLagz | has anyone with a multiseat configuration ever had the 'main' seat get changed to a vty every time the 2nd seat logs in ? |
| 11:30.01 | NicksCode | I spent 4 hours setting up a server to download some files from another one, only to find out that it doesnt have enough space, lost it and ran rm -rf /* .... oops |
| 11:30.22 | SirLagz | NicksCode: well done |
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| 11:36.03 | SirLagz | grr. why you no stay on X computer =/ |
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| 11:40.29 | andreas_ | question for all testing users: do you use apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade for installing updates? |
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| 11:41.09 | abrotman | doesn't matter most of the time |
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| 11:43.43 | SirLagz | andreas_: apt-get dist-upgrade for me |
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| 11:44.10 | SirLagz | what could cause a X server to drop to a vty, needing a manual ctrl-alt-f7 to get back into X ? |
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| 11:48.20 | Sagar | Hello, i have wrongly typed "chown -R www-data /" and now my MySQL show no databases, how can i revert back to mysql show all databases? Please help? |
| 11:48.49 | SirLagz | Sagar: what's `ls -l /` show ? |
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| 11:49.18 | Sagar | SirLagz: http://prntscr.com/4i9ovz |
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| 11:49.52 | SirLagz | Sagar: ok, at least you didn't hose the permissions on everything |
| 11:49.57 | nkuttler | Sagar: doesn't look like your command did anything. or did you run it as normal user? |
| 11:50.10 | Sagar | nkuttler: i ran it as root |
| 11:50.15 | nkuttler | :| |
| 11:50.18 | abrotman | no you didn't |
| 11:50.19 | Sagar | SirLagz: How can i get back to original state? |
| 11:50.25 | abrotman | Sagar: did you already fix / ? |
| 11:50.37 | Sagar | nope |
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| 11:50.52 | abrotman | then either you didn't run it as root, or you've done sometihng to try to fix it |
| 11:50.54 | Sagar | i have wrongly typed "chown -R www-data /" and then i did Ctrl + C quickly |
| 11:51.06 | nkuttler | there we go.. |
| 11:51.18 | abrotman | Sagar: man find .. find the files owned by www-data |
| 11:51.21 | nkuttler | Sagar: find / -group www-data |
| 11:51.46 | nkuttler | Sagar: and log the output + paste.debian.net it |
| 11:52.06 | nkuttler | oh wait, chown.. |
| 11:52.13 | Sagar | can i echo all the out to somewhere in file directly, putty deletes the above log? |
| 11:52.19 | nkuttler | Sagar: that's -user, not -group |
| 11:52.39 | nkuttler | Sagar: cmd > log.txt |
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| 11:57.02 | Sagar | nkuttler: http://prntscr.com/4i9qup |
| 11:57.12 | Sagar | so outfile is here http://www.mindfreakers.net/cmd.txt |
| 11:58.39 | abrotman | heh |
| 11:58.41 | nkuttler | Sagar: that... doesn't even look sooo bad |
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| 11:59.01 | Sagar | what should i do nkuttler |
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| 12:00.43 | nkuttler | Sagar: what did you mean when you said your mysql shows no databases? |
| 12:01.04 | Sagar | when i open phpmyadmin |
| 12:01.09 | Sagar | it shows "No databases" |
| 12:02.05 | nkuttler | Sagar: but can you connect with the mysql command, or do you websites still work? |
| 12:02.52 | Sagar | website works but it says no database to select |
| 12:03.04 | abrotman | Sagar: that's not what we're asking |
| 12:03.14 | Sagar | ? |
| 12:03.52 | abrotman | Sagar: does "mysql" work and connect to the databases you need? |
| 12:04.16 | Sagar | mysql works and it doesn't not connect to database because their are no databases in mysql |
| 12:04.22 | abrotman | doesn't not ? |
| 12:04.26 | abrotman | how do you know there are no databases? |
| 12:04.40 | abrotman | phpmyadmin is not a valid test |
| 12:05.00 | Sagar | wait |
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| 12:06.39 | Sagar | http://prntscr.com/4i9t0s |
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| 12:06.46 | Sagar | see this where it says atozmp3_wp |
| 12:06.55 | Sagar | before it said "No databases" |
| 12:07.06 | Sagar | i did chown -R mysql /var/lib/mysql |
| 12:07.09 | Sagar | and the databases are back |
| 12:07.13 | abrotman | please stop using phpmyadmin .. we're not asking about it |
| 12:07.34 | Sagar | thanks i got the db backs i ran the command: chown -R mysql /var/lib/mysql |
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| 12:18.25 | andreas_ | when i get multiple 'input/output error' messages from various daemons during startup, what's the most likely cause? disk failure? |
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| 12:19.58 | Brigo | andreas_, may be. ¿can you paste the syslog output in paste.debian.net? |
| 12:20.10 | deepblue | how to make a taid array of ext3 2TB devices /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1?is it enough to mark the raid flag on both?or will it also require reformatting? |
| 12:20.11 | deepblue | how to make a raid array of ext3 2TB devices /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1?is it enough to mark the raid flag on both?or will it also require reformatting? |
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| 12:21.24 | coin3d | deepblue: from what i know, it requires reformatting |
| 12:21.36 | coin3d | since mdadm will have to create a superblock |
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| 12:27.55 | tuxysys | hi, i get an error when trying reseting the root passwort: bin/sh: 0: can't access tty; job control turner off, thanks |
| 12:28.55 | oskie_ | hello, I have an apt-get repo which is http://people.debian.org/~rbalint/ppa/xbmc-ffmpeg/xbmc-ffmpeg-wheezy-backports/Packages. Only problem, it redirects to https which apt-get does not support. Any ideas? |
| 12:28.56 | abrotman | tuxysys: in what OS? |
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| 12:29.58 | themill | oskie_: you'd need to install the apt https transport. |
| 12:30.36 | oskie_ | themill: ah. thanks |
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| 12:31.31 | tuxysys | abrotman wheezy |
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| 12:32.34 | TopGear | hcitool dev gives me an empty output. Is there a way to enable bluetooth devices? rfkill list says my BT is not hard- or softblocked. |
| 12:33.43 | Brigo | TopGear, hidd --search as root |
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| 12:34.32 | TopGear | Brigo: It speaks of command not found. Of what is hidd a part? |
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| 12:35.58 | wulllst | would it noticeably speed up my system, if i recompiled the debian i386 standard kernel for a dual core cpu (which i have)? |
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| 12:36.49 | Bluewolf | I have used backports on wheezy, that being said how do I install archive utility and winetricks? |
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| 12:38.06 | Brigo | TopGear, forget it, sorry. |
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| 12:38.20 | TopGear | Brigo: Ah, got it: bluez-compat. sudo hidd --search only gives "searching..." |
| 12:38.21 | Brigo | TopGear, did you install the bluetooth utils? |
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| 12:39.19 | wulllst | Bluewolf: there's a debian package for wintricks in wheezy. |
| 12:39.20 | TopGear | Brigo: Did you mean bluez-utils? If then, yes. |
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| 12:40.23 | Brigo | TopGear, well, i have no bluetooth here, and i do not remember how to make thinks, but i think in this packagae is the program you need. |
| 12:40.56 | Brigo | try the man pages or the README in /usr/share/doc/bluez-tools/README |
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| 12:49.15 | Bluewolf | wulllst: I know but how exactly do I install it, this is what I am getting when I try through the termial? http://paste.debian.net/118554/ |
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| 12:50.24 | wulllst | Bluewolf: lucky you. that says: "winetricks is already the newest version". so, it's already installed. |
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| 12:53.24 | Bluewolf | wulllst: It cant be, I never installed it. How do I check if its installed? |
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| 12:57.19 | wulllst | Bluewolf: it could have been installed as a dependency of something. |
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| 12:58.11 | wulllst | Bluewolf: you can generally check if a package is installed by using dpkg -s [package_name] |
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| 12:59.16 | wulllst | Bluewolf: or simply, go to the terminal, type "wine" and press tab. if winetricks is among the alternatives shown, it is installed. |
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| 13:00.27 | nh2 | what again are the prefixes or suffixes that I have to give in order to apt-get install and remove something at the same time? `apt-get install +packageA -packageB` or something like that, I can never remember it |
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| 13:01.14 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Okay so it does look like its installed? http://paste.debian.net/118557/ |
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| 13:02.00 | wulllst | nh2: i think it's [package]- |
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| 13:02.20 | nh2 | wulllst: ah, thanks. And it doesn't work with aptitude, only apt-get, that's what caught me |
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| 13:02.49 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well then, try to run it. |
| 13:03.01 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Or http://paste.debian.net/118559/ |
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| 13:04.20 | wulllst | Bluewolf: btw, it's probably not the best idea to press enter after having checked the alternatives with tab. in you case, for example, you din't actually want to run wine, did you? |
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| 13:08.40 | SirLagz | anyone know how I can get multiple users to use the same soundcard at the same time, but direct their audio to only one specific port on the sound card ? e.g. one user uses the 'headphone' port, one user uses the 'line out' port |
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| 13:10.00 | abrotman | SirLagz: seems like the app should be able to select? |
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| 13:10.50 | SirLagz | abrotman: well, this is more of a user-session-wide setting that I need |
| 13:11.01 | SirLagz | abrotman: I don't know what applications the users will be using |
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| 13:12.31 | wulllst | SirLagz: well, i'm not sure about this, but you could probably use jack and then use user-specific config files. |
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| 13:12.54 | wulllst | SirLagz: that may also be possible with other sound servers. |
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| 13:13.05 | SirLagz | wulllst: thanks, I'll look into that |
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| 13:14.03 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Wine works fine, I just need winetracks to run a certain program which does not want to run which leads me to believe its not installed as thats the only reason for it not running. I have run this programs on Ubuntu and Mint so it should not be a problem. |
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| 13:14.46 | wulllst | Bluewolf: there reason could also be bad configuration. |
| 13:15.15 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Care to elaborate on that? |
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| 13:16.17 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well, i'm not a wine expert. it's just that, egenrally, if a program doesn't run or doesn't seem to run properly/at all, it doesn't automatically mean it's not installed. |
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| 13:16.31 | wulllst | Bluewolf: how are you trying to run winetricks? |
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| 13:20.43 | Bluewolf | wulllst: In truth I'm not, but I know for a fact that the program I want run requires it. Everything is set as I have done countless times so it should run. The program installed perfectly now when I double click the .exe it simply does not run. |
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| 13:23.34 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well, that brings a whole variety of possible problems. |
| 13:24.20 | wulllst | Bluewolf: first of all, i'd suggest you run the program on the command line "wine [program]", to be able to get some error messages. |
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| 13:25.31 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Indeed. wine yWriter5 |
| 13:25.33 | Bluewolf | wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\yWriter5.exe" |
| 13:25.59 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well, that seems to be a wine issue then. |
| 13:26.02 | _unreal_ | hello I'm trying to remove the WL modules and drivers from my system. trying to remove the broadcom STA drivers. I've removed them but still seem to be resident??? dmesg |grep wl |pastebinit gave me http://paste.ubuntu.com/8196929/ |
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| 13:28.57 | wulllst | Bluewolf: but maybe the problem lies somewhere else: as far as i can see from the pkg description, winetricks is a package manager for wine. that is: it can install software easily, that is needed by programs runnign with wine. |
| 13:29.57 | wulllst | Bluewolf: so, could it be possible that the program you try to run does not actually "need winetricks", but need to have yWriter5 installed via winetricks? |
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| 13:45.18 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Ahh well see here http://www.spacejock.com/yWriter5_Linux.html |
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| 13:47.11 | timthelion | Does http://http.debian.net get pissed off and close the connection if you download too much from it? |
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| 13:49.10 | dvs | timthelion: It shouldn't. It isn't just one site. |
| 13:49.12 | wulllst | Bluewolf: ok, so it really is a wine issue. before following the instruction on that web page i would, however, visit the wine irc channel and ask if winetricks can, as the name suggests, do the trick. |
| 13:50.28 | timthelion | dvs: hm, I'm getting "failed to fetch deb" errors on an up to date settup, from both jessie and sid :P |
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| 13:51.27 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Yeah I was about to take this conversation to #winehq before an unsuspecting observer lay down the rules :D |
| 13:52.17 | KBme | hi |
| 13:52.31 | KBme | is there a way to have a usr run with a low priority? |
| 13:52.34 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Okay then back to debian issues, How can I install archive utility. It wont install in the software manager or the terminal as I change the backports for my Nvidia drivers? |
| 13:52.34 | timthelion | devotes a minute of silence to the fact that notepad is still the default text editor on his girlfriends box due to wine. |
| 13:52.44 | KBme | like, every process spawned should have such nice and ionice value |
| 13:52.51 | timthelion | KBme: google cgroups |
| 13:53.03 | KBme | I know cgroups |
| 13:53.05 | abrotman | timthelion: silence? The anger is welling up inside? |
| 13:53.25 | KBme | but there is nothing in debian that does this? I would need to group that user's processes somehow? |
| 13:53.34 | timthelion | abrotman: honestly, I have no idea why wine is so obsessed with setting up windows default programs |
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| 13:54.21 | wulllst | Bluewolf: i don't really understand that. is archive utility a linux program? |
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| 13:55.11 | timthelion | KBme: I have never done this, but I think the answer is to set the user's shell as being launched in a cgroup https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Resource_Management_Guide/Starting_a_Process.html |
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| 13:55.30 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Yes, it appears in the software manager. And it does not look like third party ether? |
| 13:55.38 | MY123 | timthelion: There is not LSass in Wine (the user manager of Megadollar Door) |
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| 13:58.37 | timthelion | MY123: was that meant for me? |
| 13:59.11 | wulllst | Bluewolf: what is your distro? |
| 13:59.38 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Debian wheezy 7.6.0 |
| 13:59.54 | MY123 | timthelion: For your default Windows program thought, that decision was made partially because of "security". |
| 14:00.18 | timthelion | MY123: I don't understand what it has to do with security. |
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| 14:00.46 | timthelion | MY123: Why is it more secure when double clicking on a text file in thunar opens notepad? |
| 14:01.01 | timthelion | Than say gedit. |
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| 14:01.41 | MY123 | timthelion: Because you can't know if notepad is not modified . :-) |
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| 14:02.12 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well, i don't see anything called "archive utility" there. |
| 14:03.06 | timthelion | MY123: that seems to sugest to me that the opposite shoud happen, and that it should be impossible to accidently open notepad by simply trying to open a text document. |
| 14:04.28 | rgr | correct. But its a load of paranoid nonsense too. If notepad is "modified" you have far bigger issues. Not least because its used for sweet fa by just about anyone competent enough to double click an icon. |
| 14:04.47 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Oh right its called Ark, in Add/Remove Software its under as archive utility. Its a package for: Ark manages various archive formats, including tar, gzip, bzip2, rar and zip, as well as CD-ROM images. Ark can be used to browse, extract, create, and modify archives. This package is part of the KDE SC utilities module. |
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| 14:05.27 | MY123 | rgr: You can modify notepad in Wine simply as it's located in $HOME/.wine. |
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| 14:07.55 | wulllst | Bluewolf: are you on KDE? |
| 14:09.09 | Bluewolf | wulllst: No. As I said earlier - "Debian wheezy 7.6.0" |
| 14:09.47 | dvs | Bluewolf: KDE is a GUI, not a distribution |
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| 14:10.21 | wulllst | dvs: how can you post these nice little "tell user xy about this and that" texts? |
| 14:10.34 | wulllst | dvs: there's probably one for kde, isn't there? |
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| 14:10.42 | abrotman | wulllst: /msg dpkg foo |
| 14:11.04 | Bluewolf | dvs: I know. No I'm not using KDE GUI. |
| 14:11.16 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Pardon me I am on Gnome |
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| 14:11.42 | wulllst | Bluewolf: ok. so, why would you want to install the KDE program for archive amanagement? |
| 14:12.31 | Bluewolf | wulllst: I don't what I want is a package that: manages various archive formats, including tar, gzip, bzip2, rar and zip, as well as CD-ROM images. Ark can be used to browse, extract, create, and modify archives. |
| 14:12.45 | wulllst | abrotman: so that would be [reciepient]: /msg dpkg foo then, right? |
| 14:12.59 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Know of one I can use in Gnome seeing as there is a vast difference |
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| 14:13.03 | Bluewolf | ? |
| 14:13.14 | MY123 | wulllst: No. dpkg: tell NAME -about THING |
| 14:13.28 | wulllst | MY123: thanks |
| 14:13.45 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well, gnoe does have an archive utility. |
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| 14:14.40 | MY123 | Bluewolf: 7-zip? (using the console for nearly everything so I can be wrong) |
| 14:14.46 | wulllst | Bluewolf: anyway, if you want "ark", just install "ark", e.g.: apt-get install ark. |
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| 14:15.36 | wulllst | Bluewolf: but what exactly is the problem with gnome's archive utility? |
| 14:15.48 | abrotman | wulllst: that'd be you |
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| 14:16.18 | wulllst | abrotman: don't get it. |
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| 14:16.23 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Well It won't do what ark states, I need it to do that unless you know how to make it so? |
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| 14:17.09 | Bluewolf | MY123: Yes among the few things - as well as CD-ROM images. |
| 14:17.46 | wulllst | Bluewolf: You mean, you need to do what Ark can do and the gnome utility can't? |
| 14:17.53 | abrotman | wulllst: try it and see |
| 14:18.18 | MY123 | I have a VERY odd problem. (the ACK compiler only supports variable declaration at the beginning of the function) is that ANSI behavour? |
| 14:18.53 | MY123 | (the arch I use does not support GCC or Clang) |
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| 14:19.34 | SirLagz | MY123: are you still compiling Debian for the VC4 core ? |
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| 14:19.59 | MY123 | SirLagz: Yeah. Just stuck at a compiler thing. |
| 14:20.14 | SirLagz | MY123: fun times |
| 14:20.25 | Cylta | hello. I've messed up with pulseaudio permissions\users\groups. Where to look how it should be by default? reinstalling pulseaudio does not help |
| 14:20.26 | MY123 | SirLagz: Python works. |
| 14:20.33 | SirLagz | MY123: nice |
| 14:20.47 | SirLagz | Cylta: how did you reinstall pulseaudio ? |
| 14:21.04 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Yes exactly? |
| 14:21.14 | Cylta | SirLagz: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio, sudo apt-get install pulseaudio |
| 14:21.18 | MY123 | SirLagz: Python works with the nonfree VBCC compiler. (I can't afford continue with it) |
| 14:21.30 | SirLagz | Cylta: tried apt-get purge pulseaudio ? |
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| 14:21.40 | Cylta | SirLagz: will try |
| 14:21.42 | SirLagz | MY123: damn non-free stuff! |
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| 14:22.48 | wulllst | Bluewolf: you could simply install ark then, but it will probably bring tons of kde required stuff to your system. alternatively, you could try to "enhance" the gnome utility, by installing additional software that can make it hanlde archive type x and so on. |
| 14:22.52 | MY123 | SirLagz: I'm searching some persons that are motivated enough to help writing a compiler. |
| 14:23.23 | MY123 | (there is a static binary translator but that's badass) |
| 14:23.34 | MY123 | (from ARM->VC4) |
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| 14:24.05 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Then I will go with that as I don't want tons of KDE requirements. How would I "enhance" the gnome utility? |
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| 14:25.17 | wulllst | Bluewolf: that depends on what features you miss. if, e.g. you are want it to use the non-free version of unrar because you have problems unpacking certain rar packages, you would install "unrar-nonfree" from the non-free repo. just as an example. |
| 14:25.32 | MY123 | SirLagz: For persons who would like to try , there is that : github.com/freeblob/samples. |
| 14:25.57 | SirLagz | MY123: looks interesting |
| 14:26.09 | SirLagz | not that I have any time to muck around with that stuff anymore :( |
| 14:28.05 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Okay then what do I do. I need it to manage rar, zip, as well as CD-ROM images? |
| 14:28.37 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well, have you tried zip and rar? |
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| 14:28.53 | wulllst | Bluewolf: i mean, that should work out of the box, i guess. |
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| 14:31.13 | Bluewolf | wulllst: I hate computers sometimes - Okay now it appears zips and rars work (Its doing that just to spite me!) |
| 14:31.40 | Bluewolf | wulllst: What about something that can mount CD-ROM images? |
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| 14:32.05 | rgr | sure. because they "didnt work" before.... |
| 14:32.16 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well, nautilus should be able to do that. |
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| 14:32.43 | rgr | Bluewolf: what do you mean by something? A GUI app? its trivial from the command line and easy to find via google. |
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| 14:33.38 | wulllst | rgr: i guess, Bluewolf is a beginner wiht linux/debian. |
| 14:33.50 | Bluewolf | rgr: By something I do mean a GUI of sorts like Archive Manager? |
| 14:34.10 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Yeah you could say a long term beginner :D |
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| 14:35.04 | wulllst | Bluewolf: so, i'd suggest, you try munting an iso image with nautilus (if it is still called nautilus), the file manager (desktop shell) |
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| 14:36.17 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Ahh how would I do that, Strangely in Ubuntu when I right clicked a .iso it gave me the option to mount? |
| 14:36.56 | timtheli1n | It seems that the server at http://http.debian.net with the IP 46.4.205.44 is having problems. |
| 14:37.02 | ompaul | Bluewolf: search for loop mount |
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| 14:38.05 | ompaul | timtheli1n: no it is not, what are you trying to do |
| 14:38.47 | Bluewolf | ompaul: Where, The Gnome menu, google? |
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| 14:39.11 | timtheli1n | ompaul: I am trying to install a large number of packages, I have received multiple connection closed errors on various debs from that IP |
| 14:39.16 | wulllst | Bluewolf: you favorite serach engine, ompaul means. |
| 14:39.19 | Basketball | is anyone here good with crontab and rtcwake |
| 14:39.21 | timtheli1n | ompaul: it responds to my pings, but gives me errors... |
| 14:39.38 | wulllst | Bluewolf: you could also go with "man mount" |
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| 14:39.46 | timtheli1n | ompaul: E: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/libm/libmail-sendmail-perl/libmail-sendmail-perl_0.79.16-1_all.deb Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 46.4.205.44 80] |
| 14:40.07 | abrotman | try a different mirror |
| 14:40.28 | wulllst | Bluewolf: or try this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26167/nautilus-mount-iso-file-with-right-click-menu |
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| 14:41.01 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Bad idea giving me an option, which is better or easiyer? loop mount or man mount? |
| 14:41.28 | timtheli1n | abrotman: I might do that, but its in a Dockerfile, and docker currently lacks the ability to do parametric builds, so...setting a "non-standard" mirror is a little weird |
| 14:42.20 | ompaul | timtheli1n: paste your sources |
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| 14:43.05 | ompaul | timtheli1n: in http://paste.debian.net and as the man says try some other one -usually means your upstream has an ugly config for routing |
| 14:43.22 | ompaul | timtheli1n: which is not going to help you |
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| 14:44.19 | wulllst | Bluewolf: "man mount", if typed into the terminal and being confirmed by pressing enter, will give you the linux manual page for the mount command. |
| 14:44.52 | timtheli1n | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/118570/ |
| 14:45.14 | timtheli1n | ompaul: who is my "upstream" in this case? |
| 14:45.36 | ompaul | timtheli1n: your isp |
| 14:45.38 | ompaul | or theirs |
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| 14:46.16 | timtheli1n | ompaul: I can consistently ping the IP, but it is possible that something is wrong with my ISP as they are O2... |
| 14:46.17 | wulllst | Bluewolf: "loop" is an option to the mount command, which makes you iso file accessible as it were a normal block device (disk partition) |
| 14:46.22 | ompaul | timtheli1n: try this and see how it works get rid of http://http and use http://ftp.ie and do apt-get update (they have HUGE bandwidth) |
| 14:46.54 | ompaul | timtheli1n: try that if it fails again and O2 and you are using wireless - move your dongle |
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| 14:47.25 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Loop sounds better, so it will give me the option to mount or unmount a desired .iso? |
| 14:48.04 | wulllst | Bluewolf: so you could manually mount that iso image by executing "mount -o loop [iso_file] /mount/point". understandable? |
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| 14:48.50 | ompaul | Bluewolf: if you can't understand that you shouldn't really try until you understand what mounting means because you can if you mess with mounting the wrong way leave your computer in a not very healthy state which may or may not recover after a reboot |
| 14:49.17 | ompaul | Bluewolf: and if not and given your current skill level ... well it's never going to end well |
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| 14:50.10 | CieNTi | hi |
| 14:50.41 | timtheli1n | ompaul: thanks for your help, now we'll find out in half an hour if this helped ;) |
| 14:50.52 | ompaul | timtheli1n: why half an hour? |
| 14:51.06 | ompaul | timtheli1n: apt-get update will either work or not |
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| 14:51.25 | ompaul | I can has creditz |
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| 14:51.29 | Bluewolf | wulllst: In theory yes. I usually avoid the command line. |
| 14:51.32 | Bluewolf | ompaul: Well my current skill has resaulted in a broken system in the past, don't ask me how. Thats why I was asking for something that just allows me to mount an iso as it is done in Ubuntu? |
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| 14:51.52 | timthelion | ompaul: its been downloading about 250mb before it gets to the error each time... |
| 14:52.16 | ompaul | timthelion: so the thing is this, you should clear out the old partial package |
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| 14:52.41 | ompaul | timthelion: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 14:53.08 | timthelion | ompaul: I'm doing this in a chroot(Docker) so that should always be clean and fresh... |
| 14:53.27 | ompaul | Bluewolf: it's not ubuntu, also mounting stuff using nautilus as root is just plain dangerous |
| 14:53.36 | timthelion | ompaul: btw, you are right, that the irish mirror is FAST... |
| 14:53.42 | ompaul | Bluewolf: one wrong click bye bye system |
| 14:53.49 | wulllst | Bluewolf: well, that's a pitty. i think there is probably some tiny little software ackage that just does the job for you (as in ubuntu). or maybe it's really just a configuration issue. but you would have to talk to someone using gnome on debian. i cannot help you with that, sorry. |
| 14:54.01 | ompaul | Bluewolf: you have to be a bit more unluckly with keystrokes to take out a whole system |
| 14:54.45 | ompaul | timthelion: you should look at the http://www.heanet.ie to see what it is you are connecting to |
| 14:54.49 | timthelion | ompaul: switching mirrors fixed it, unpacking now :) |
| 14:54.50 | ompaul | it's kind of a monster |
| 14:54.58 | wulllst | Bluewolf: and ompaul is right: try not to run nautilus as root. |
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| 14:55.18 | Bluewolf | wulllst: Thanks for the help then :D |
| 14:55.31 | Basketball | is anyone here good with crontab and rtcwake |
| 14:55.37 | wulllst | Bluewolf: welcome. |
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| 14:58.23 | CieNTi | I know the topic about "testing/unstable" but i figure this problem is not a matter of that, or maybe the people here knows how to fix it: |
| 14:58.29 | CieNTi | it is happening to me something weird: I'm not using X and don't want to, but my computer have integrated a video card that have 3 outputs, 1VGA + 2LVDS. LVDS are internal without cabling, so i can't use it. BIOS,POST and full debian (jessie) installation is done via VGA, but when I finish and start debian, 3 seconds after boot (just 5 lines of dmesg) VGA output is off but computer is working (i can blindly enter commands via console). How can i change that? |
| 14:58.36 | CieNTi | I googled it but almost all the results are based on X and "i have 2 monitors with my window manager and want to ..." ... i want only console |
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| 14:58.48 | Basketball | is anyone here good with crontab and rtcwake |
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| 15:02.33 | Bluewolf | ompaul: By the way thanks for putting up with me again :D |
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| 15:06.41 | pycoderf | hello all. is there a way to avoid doing a new install of debian when a new release version come sout? |
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| 15:07.47 | CieNTi | pycoderf yes, search "wheezy to jessie" as example |
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| 15:08.46 | pycoderf | CieNTi: i have done that on my rpi. seems to be just changing the repos. but what happens when testing freezes? |
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| 15:09.27 | CieNTi | i have a rpi too with xbian and ... is not a stable machine and eat and destroys SD cards hahaha |
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| 15:09.37 | CieNTi | let me check which version i have now |
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| 15:09.57 | pycoderf | i use raspbian and not had an issue so far |
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| 15:10.02 | pycoderf | same sd card for multiple years now |
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| 15:10.15 | CieNTi | it will destroy, dont worry, matter of time |
| 15:10.34 | pycoderf | nature of he beat probably |
| 15:10.43 | CieNTi | SD cards have finite cells read-write cycles |
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| 15:11.20 | CieNTi | and if not happening to you yet is because dont had a process changing so often at some address but it will happen xDDD |
| 15:11.29 | CieNTi | as XBMC never happened to me yet |
| 15:11.53 | CieNTi | bus as little server, yes, suppose via log writing or database writing, dunno, but fisically destroyed 2 SDcards |
| 15:12.02 | pycoderf | in any event |
| 15:12.09 | pycoderf | for debian itself as a desktop os |
| 15:12.11 | CieNTi | (some sectors was unable to work, rpi, debian or windows based, fisically destroyed xD) |
| 15:12.30 | pycoderf | just changing repos to say testing should be enough to prevent new installs at new versons? but what about when testing freezes |
| 15:12.32 | CieNTi | bus = but* |
| 15:13.05 | CieNTi | dunno why freeze really, never happened to me and almost all the times I use testing |
| 15:13.17 | CieNTi | computer and rpi |
| 15:13.22 | pycoderf | they freeze before stable releases |
| 15:13.41 | SynrG | pycoderf: are you thinking of upgrading to testing now? if so, see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net where testing/unstable are supported. |
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| 15:14.44 | pycoderf | SynrG no i am thinking of installing it on my gaming machine |
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| 15:14.56 | SynrG | pycoderf: before or after jessie releases? |
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| 15:16.13 | roshanavand | hi, I just set up postfix+dovecot |
| 15:16.27 | roshanavand | I receive mail on the server, but can't see them in my imap inbox |
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| 15:16.43 | roshanavand | my postfix virtual_mailbox_base is /home/vmail |
| 15:16.56 | roshanavand | and dovecot mail_home = /home/vmail/%d/%u |
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| 15:17.15 | pycoderf | SynrG I am going to install using the testing iso. i want to avoid reinstalling |
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| 15:18.42 | SynrG | pycoderf: substitute 'jessie' for 'testing' in your /etc/apt/sources.list everywhere |
| 15:18.52 | pycoderf | does testing not have the same result? |
| 15:18.59 | SynrG | pycoderf: that way, when jessie releases, you won't be switched to jessie+! |
| 15:19.03 | SynrG | jessie+1 |
| 15:19.20 | SynrG | no, because after jessie becomes stable, testing is for the *next* release |
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| 15:19.54 | pycoderf | ok i guess i am confused then |
| 15:19.56 | SynrG | also, in the period after a new stable release comes out, there follows very turblent times in the archives |
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| 15:20.08 | timtheli1n | bangs his head on the wall. |
| 15:20.17 | SynrG | the floodgates open and stuff that previously couldn't migrate all of a sudden does |
| 15:20.22 | SynrG | with disruptive effects on testing. |
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| 15:20.29 | timtheli1n | autoconf finally works, overwrites Makefile which was used to launch autoconf... |
| 15:20.32 | SynrG | it's not normally something you want to suffer |
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| 15:20.48 | pycoderf | so if i want to make the install more "rolling" use jessie in sources.list |
| 15:21.08 | SynrG | i don't know what you think "more rolling" means ... |
| 15:21.29 | SynrG | jessie is now "testing". jessie will later be "stable" ... |
| 15:21.34 | timtheli1n | SynrG: broken a greater procent of the time :) |
| 15:21.39 | pycoderf | i do not want to reinstall each time a new stable vversion comes out |
| 15:21.44 | pycoderf | i want to install once and be done |
| 15:21.46 | SynrG | if you don't want to suffer the instability that always follows a stable release, use "jessie" |
| 15:21.58 | SynrG | if you *do* want to suffer instability, leave it as "testing" |
| 15:22.00 | timtheli1n | pycoderf: use plan9 then. Hasn't been updated in decades! |
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| 15:22.27 | SynrG | so my advice is (to minimize suffering) to say "jessie" for now. |
| 15:22.46 | SynrG | later, when it looks like things have calmed down in the archive, switch it to "testing" again |
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| 15:23.09 | SynrG | (or the codename of the next release) |
| 15:23.24 | SynrG | no matter *which* way you choose, you will not need to reinstall |
| 15:23.27 | pycoderf | is there somethign i can use to avoid changing sources.list alot? |
| 15:23.44 | SynrG | i don't consider "once per release" to be "a lot" |
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| 15:23.47 | timtheli1n | pycoderf: what kind of packages are you installing that need to be supernew? |
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| 15:24.22 | SynrG | let's say arbitrarily that three months after the release is a good time to change ... |
| 15:24.25 | timtheli1n | pycoderf: I, for example, install all my build environments in Docker, libs can be as new as the please, but it never messes with the base system. |
| 15:24.37 | SynrG | *once* you change from jessie to the next codename, three months after the release |
| 15:24.50 | SynrG | approximately two years later, three months after the *next* release, you do the same thing |
| 15:25.19 | pycoderf | ok so change to jessie and then wait for next testing codename and go to that? |
| 15:25.23 | SynrG | that will keep you tracking "testing", but during the period of instability after a new stable release, keeps you on stable for three months (or however long the instability actually lasts) |
| 15:25.42 | SynrG | well, some time *after* the next codename |
| 15:26.37 | pycoderf | ok. so then difference between testing and jessie is semantic |
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| 15:27.30 | SynrG | the difference is that jessie will *always* be jessie ... before and after the release. but testing always points at the current "testing" release. |
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| 15:27.55 | SynrG | to avoid being "jumped ahead" to the next release after jessie releases, use the codename "jessie" |
| 15:27.57 | pycoderf | so then i want testing |
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| 15:28.10 | SynrG | so you like instability? sure. let the good times roll |
| 15:28.30 | pycoderf | i dont mind bumps along the way |
| 15:28.40 | SynrG | trust me, lagging behind for a few months is a *good* thing |
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| 15:28.50 | SynrG | don't say i didn't warn you :) |
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| 15:28.56 | pycoderf | i appreciate it |
| 15:29.10 | pycoderf | i use testing on my pi |
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| 15:29.14 | pycoderf | no major issues yet |
| 15:29.16 | SynrG | and i'll reiterate: support for testing is on #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
| 15:29.27 | SynrG | testing on your pi? i thought you said you used rpi |
| 15:29.35 | SynrG | er, raspbian |
| 15:29.41 | SynrG | on your rpi |
| 15:30.03 | pycoderf | raspbian on my pi pointing to the testing repos |
| 15:30.11 | SynrG | raspbian isn't debian, though |
| 15:30.58 | SynrG | have you ever gone through a stable release cycle with that? because if you haven't, you really have no frame of reference for what it's like. |
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| 15:34.29 | MY123 | Is there any plans to include fbturbo with Debian? (will be good for sunxi and RPi systems) |
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| 15:40.43 | clyfe | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.59 | clyfe | where do I put my files (using nginx) ? |
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| 15:41.18 | abrotman | wherever you'd like |
| 15:41.29 | clyfe | is there anything canonical ? |
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| 15:46.52 | oznt | hi guys, I am trying to package mongodb, and I get this error: dpkg-genchanges: error: file ../mongodb_2.6.4-1.debian.tar.xz has size 43228 instead of expected 43292 |
| 15:47.01 | oznt | can someone help me resolve the error? |
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| 15:54.51 | grandie | hi, i have seen that using (!) with a word or command dpkg gives some short information on the subject, how or where do i find all the listings of this information |
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| 16:01.16 | peterrooney | grandie: /msg dpkg listkeys <topic word> |
| 16:01.56 | grandie | peterrooney: thank you |
| 16:01.58 | peterrooney | grandie: or, if you know the keyword already, /msg dpkg <keyword> |
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| 16:02.35 | grandie | peterrooney: i was looking for a list of the key words |
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| 16:05.53 | peterrooney | grandie: then the first (listkeys) is what you want. ! as first character in a line normally triggers the dpkg bot to respond in channel |
| 16:05.58 | peterrooney | !listkeys key |
| 16:06.00 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'key' by key (15 of 160): _default keyboard ;; bdo key ;; etch key #del# ;; graphmonkey ;; key server ;; keychain ;; keyserver ;; lenny upgrade key ;; magic sysreq key ;; monkey nutsack linux ;; ssh-keygen ;; subkeys ;; turnkey ;; xkeycaps ;; xterm home key. |
| 16:06.33 | jmcnaught | there's also http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/ |
| 16:06.39 | grandie | peterrooney: again thanks that is basically what i wanted |
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| 16:08.05 | grandie | jmcnaught: thank you also, i'm already at the site |
| 16:08.07 | supaplex | my iMac OEM BT keyboard refuses to work/associate in linux. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYzyzdQp-N8 |
| 16:09.51 | qwk | Hi guys, for some reason my debian boots without gui |
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| 16:10.29 | Nik05 | qwk do you have a desktop manager installed? |
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| 16:20.05 | oznt | come on guys, there must be some here that knows how the debian part of a source package is created. I can't find any documentation for it, but maybe it's because I am asking the wrong question? |
| 16:21.03 | oznt | If you look at source packages they have a file called orig.tar.{xz,gz...} and a file called debian.tar.{gz, xz} |
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| 16:22.01 | oznt | the packaging information I found until now, helps me build a package if this two files were obtained by apt-get source ..., but how do you create the debian file ? in case you create a new package? I am really helpless here |
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| 16:27.48 | Basketball | is anyone here good with crontab and rtcwake |
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| 16:29.56 | [sr] | hi |
| 16:30.26 | nkuttler | !tell oznt about new maint guide |
| 16:30.26 | [sr] | to report an issue in a lib dep should i use the email that apt-cache show show's or bugs.debian.org ? |
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| 16:30.57 | nkuttler | !tell oznt about new-maint-guide |
| 16:30.59 | nkuttler | !tell oznt about mentors |
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| 16:32.01 | oznt | nkuttler, the packaging tutorial does not cover it |
| 16:32.41 | oznt | the New Maintainer's Guide is probably one of the worse documents I have ever read. |
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| 16:32.48 | oznt | it's a real crap |
| 16:33.12 | oznt | I found a solution by reading the logs of building another package I am familiar with. |
| 16:33.49 | oznt | dpkg-source -b ., does what I wanted! it creates the missing debian.tar.xz file I needed |
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| 16:36.21 | qwk | Nik05, for some reason had debian uninstall the gui but i dl'd gdm3 again |
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| 16:38.22 | Nik05 | qwk it doesnt for "some reason" i does when you tell it to continue... |
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| 16:48.41 | [sr] | guys, where's the debian bug system? |
| 16:48.56 | [sr] | i see so many pages/links and dont see the place to really report |
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| 16:50.28 | babilen | dpkg: tell [sr] -about reportbug |
| 16:50.34 | babilen | [sr]: Also: http://bugs.debian.org |
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| 16:55.40 | [sr] | babilen: im there but dont see |: |
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| 17:05.13 | babilen | [sr]: Yes, you would use reportbug. Read the message our bot sent you (in private) and the references articles/wiki pages |
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| 17:12.27 | KAristide | Hi ! |
| 17:12.48 | KAristide | I try to make a symbolic link in this way [http://paste.kde.org/pb2rjbnba] |
| 17:13.11 | KAristide | And the code is here (you can say variables value in previous output http://paste.kde.org/pgh4cdhdp |
| 17:13.12 | [sr] | babilen: tks |
| 17:13.50 | KAristide | But, in $rootpath/$1/public/my public i get lot of « my public » in « my public » in « my public » in .... |
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| 17:32.20 | shurtagul | sg NickServ identify keygun55 |
| 17:32.30 | shurtagul | ok |
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| 17:35.00 | KAristide | x) |
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| 17:35.15 | GreenBlood | Oh le génie |
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| 17:53.31 | riot | ohai. why is apt trying to deinstall all my various compilers etc. when i try to install a i386 gcc on an amd64 multiarch system? |
| 17:53.55 | riot | its essentially removing everything amd64 :/ |
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| 17:54.52 | riot | thats not what i understand under multiarch.. |
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| 17:55.36 | musca | !multiarch skew |
| 17:55.36 | dpkg | Packages that are marked as co-installable across different architectures can only be installed if the version for each architecture is identical. If the <buildd> network has not kept up, you cannot install them. If only one arch is binNMU'd, you cannot install them. Wait for a while until it is sorted out. Ask me about <multiarch> <multiarch failures>. |
| 17:55.53 | riot | musca: thanks |
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| 18:05.36 | qwk | for some reason while im trying to install things via apt I get this error: pastebin.com/8YdtDYAP Notice I have updated my kernel to 3.14.12 grsecurity |
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| 18:05.54 | qwk | I cant start any program for some reason |
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| 18:07.06 | KAristide | Hi ! |
| 18:07.15 | KAristide | Do you know a solution for prevent 2nd line (mv) directly in « ln » ? http://paste.kde.org/pwueti4ay |
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| 18:07.44 | physixer | I installed backports kernel but it's not showing up in grub. I did sudo update-grub. What else needs to be done? |
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| 18:17.57 | physixer | nevermind. the kernel didn't install. It says linux-image-686 is already the latest version. Do I need to use some other package name to force the new install? like linux-image-bpo-686? |
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| 18:19.08 | towo` | physixer, you have more than one linux-install? |
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| 18:27.32 | physixer | towo`: no just one |
| 18:27.39 | mirda | hello |
| 18:27.54 | mirda | i have mainboard gigabyte x58a-ud3r with ITE IT8720F sensor |
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| 18:28.04 | physixer | I just did dpkg --get-selections | grep linux ... and it doesn't show any linux image with bpo in the name |
| 18:28.04 | mirda | please what sensors are temp1, temp2 and temp3? |
| 18:28.24 | mirda | in lm-sensors |
| 18:28.44 | centrx | physixer, How did you install it? |
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| 18:29.28 | physixer | centrx: i issued this command (which didn't work, saying currently installed is the latest version): sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-686 |
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| 18:30.07 | centrx | physixer, What does your sources.list look like? |
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| 18:31.38 | physixer | centrx: sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/118611 |
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| 18:31.58 | edakiri | How can one see # of free inodes on ext4? |
| 18:32.24 | petemc | df -i |
| 18:32.54 | centrx | physixer, That dpkg command you wrote above, actually |
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| 18:33.11 | physixer | centrx: I just spotted a potential fix: ftp.debian.or vs ftp.us.debian.org |
| 18:33.13 | centrx | physixer, It wouldn't have bpo in the name of the package. bpo is in the version, which is not shown by that command |
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| 18:33.34 | edakiri | thanks, pete |
| 18:33.36 | centrx | physixer, Yes, I would change them all to: http://http.debian.net |
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| 18:33.53 | centrx | physixer, dpkg -l |grep linux |
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| 18:35.03 | physixer | http://paste.debian.net/118613 |
| 18:35.16 | physixer | centrx: ^ |
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| 18:36.51 | bosher | hello guy |
| 18:37.02 | bosher | i need help with fedora |
| 18:37.14 | bosher | cpu 100 % used |
| 18:37.20 | bosher | no process open |
| 18:37.28 | bosher | why? |
| 18:38.56 | physixer | bosher: this channel is for debian linux. For fedora linux, try #fedora |
| 18:39.21 | bosher | really? |
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| 18:41.09 | bosher | no people in that channel physixer |
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| 18:42.33 | centrx | physixer, Did you run apt-get update after changing your sources.list |
| 18:42.40 | physixer | centrx: yes |
| 18:42.47 | bosher | fedora? |
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| 18:43.09 | centrx | !fedora |
| 18:43.10 | dpkg | Fedora is the Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, although it is not supported by Red Hat officially, you can get help from the community: #fedora on irc.freenode.net. http://fedoraproject.org/ |
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| 18:44.49 | bosher | had the same problem on debian cpu used 100% open programs without the processor is an intel quad core |
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| 18:45.04 | centrx | physixer, Your command: sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-686 |
| 18:45.16 | bosher | then go to fedora and still the same problem |
| 18:45.23 | centrx | physixer, If you look at https://packages.debian.org/linux-image-686 you'll see that particular package name doesn't have a backport version |
| 18:45.33 | centrx | physixer, It's a metapackage that refers to other packages, doesn't contain any software |
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| 18:46.47 | physixer | centrx: so how do I find the name of the latest kernel package in backports? |
| 18:47.06 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 18:47.08 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.16-trunk-686-pae (3.16-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.15-2); jessie: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.15-2); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.14.15-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 18:47.27 | centrx | physixer, Looks like this package name has it: linux-image-686-pae |
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| 18:47.39 | centrx | physixer, Assuming you mean to use PAE, it looks like you have both PAE and non-PAE installed, |
| 18:47.42 | bosher | ? |
| 18:47.53 | physixer | centrx: ok let me try this |
| 18:47.54 | physixer | !pae |
| 18:47.55 | dpkg | Physical Address Extension (PAE) is an x86 processor feature allowing more than 4 gigabytes of physical memory to be used. Linux supports PAE since version 2.3.23 (up to 64 GB of memory on 32-bit systems). PAE is supported by the Intel Pentium Pro/II/III/4/4M/D, Xeon, Core and Atom; AMD Geode NX, Athlon (K7), Duron, Opteron, Sempron, Turion and Phenom; Transmeta Efficeon; VIA C7 and some others. Ask me about <686-pae>, <bigmem>. |
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| 18:49.21 | centrx | physixer, If you are using any CPU from the last 8 years or something, you may want the AMD64 version of the kernel |
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| 18:50.22 | physixer | centrx: my laptop is really old, 256 MiB RAM ... also the linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.2-pae name has worked, it's installing. |
| 18:50.46 | centrx | great! |
| 18:50.50 | bosher | is is a fossil this computer |
| 18:50.54 | bosher | XD |
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| 18:55.19 | centrx | bosher, It doesn't work to handle different distros in the wrong channel because many of the tools are different and then even if you go through the process you may find out woops it's some specific thing not affecting Debian |
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| 18:55.52 | bosher | ._. |
| 18:56.04 | bosher | centrx you're wrong |
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| 18:56.18 | centrx | bosher, There are users in #fedora, even if they may not be active at the moment |
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| 18:56.43 | bosher | I insist that I happened to both distributions |
| 18:57.01 | centrx | bosher, Okay, yeah I believe you |
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| 18:57.28 | centrx | bosher, but if you're not running Debian currently, we aren't the best people to diagnose it |
| 18:57.39 | centrx | aside from "off-topic" |
| 18:58.52 | bosher | you're right |
| 18:58.55 | bosher | sorry |
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| 19:00.40 | physixer | centrx: wow. Not only the bpo kernel works. My problem for the past 48 hours is solved! Thanks for your help. And everyone in this channel! |
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| 19:01.15 | physixer | I have a beautiful 1024x768 high color openbox screen with iceweasel running. Yayy! |
| 19:02.21 | mirda | physixer: congrats :) what problem did you have? |
| 19:02.48 | centrx | yay |
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| 19:04.08 | physixer | mirda: I had a Dell C400 laptop. Pentium III 1GHz, 256 MiB, Intel 830M graphics, no USB, no CD/DVD. I installed debian wheezy through pxe boot (without X). and restarted but got blank screen. I was told I should try nomodeset in kernel line in grub. and that worked but startx failed. |
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| 19:04.49 | mirda | ahh |
| 19:04.55 | physixer | I spent all day yesterday trying fbdev and vesa with startx. fbdev had lower depth (8-bit), vesa had lower res (640x480) |
| 19:05.27 | physixer | trying a bpo kernel was my last option before redoing some other distro or version. And it finally worked! :) |
| 19:06.17 | bosher | guy i've a problem with 0 ad |
| 19:06.18 | physixer | All this with the help of #debian. You guys are great! |
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| 19:06.34 | bosher | game no run |
| 19:06.47 | mirda | yeah, backports kernel can solve some issues, i had some issues with acpi on ibm xserver 235 and bpo kernel fixed them |
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| 19:07.14 | mtn | bosher: is this a windows game you are running in wine? |
| 19:07.20 | centrx | backports resuscitated by pet rock |
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| 19:07.44 | mirda | 0 ad is linux game |
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| 19:08.17 | mtn | I was trying to guess what "game no run" might mean. ;) |
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| 19:09.13 | bosher | no 0 ad is a linux game |
| 19:09.25 | bosher | but not run in fedora |
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| 19:09.43 | mtn | bosher: this is not fedora support! |
| 19:09.52 | bosher | yes |
| 19:09.56 | mtn | no |
| 19:10.00 | bosher | fedora support is heri |
| 19:10.06 | mtn | !fedora |
| 19:10.07 | dpkg | Fedora is the Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, although it is not supported by Red Hat officially, you can get help from the community: #fedora on irc.freenode.net. http://fedoraproject.org/ |
| 19:10.11 | bosher | no |
| 19:10.26 | bosher | no people in this channel |
| 19:10.39 | bosher | can you help me? |
| 19:10.58 | mirda | i looked into that channel and there are 383 nicks |
| 19:11.00 | mtn | bosher: no. not a debian problem. you need to go elsewhere as you have been told several times |
| 19:11.24 | mtn | I suspect he is just a troll anyway |
| 19:11.29 | bosher | no |
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| 19:13.38 | bosher | how to register my nickname on irc? |
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| 19:14.35 | mirda | please do you know what are temp1, temp2 and temp3 sensors in chip ITE IT8720F on gigabyte x58a-ud3r mainboard? |
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| 19:14.55 | mirda | temp1 and temp3 are thermistors, temp2 is thermal diode |
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| 19:17.20 | Nectur | i cant acces my externall hdds in debian jessie fuae is installed |
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| 19:19.09 | mirda | Nectur: are that hdds or partitions on it mounted? |
| 19:19.27 | Nectur | yes |
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| 19:19.55 | Nectur | the are mounted to lib/live/mount |
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| 19:20.02 | Nectur | they |
| 19:20.14 | ItsLuke | Servers are goin cheap these days.. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IBM-eBladeCenter-HS20-884335G-Server-Price-per-single-Blade-unit-only-/281421285749?pt=UK_Computing_Servers&hash=item4186040975 |
| 19:20.28 | ItsLuke | 99p per server# |
| 19:20.30 | ItsLuke | used tho |
| 19:21.27 | dvs | ItsLuke: and this is Debian relate because....? |
| 19:21.50 | ItsLuke | just thought i'd share it :) |
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| 19:22.07 | Nectur | the labels do show on desktop but when i tey to open them it says: failed to mount"LABEL" |
| 19:22.45 | Nectur | not authorized to perform this operation |
| 19:23.03 | ItsLuke | Your using root.. right? |
| 19:23.05 | Nectur | tey=try srry |
| 19:23.06 | mirda | Nectur: look into dmesg |
| 19:23.10 | mirda | ah |
| 19:23.24 | mirda | Nectur: you should mount drives only as root |
| 19:24.02 | Nectur | they were automaticly mounted |
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| 19:25.45 | Nectur | im not sure im root |
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| 19:26.12 | Nectur | i cant do su as i dont know the pass |
| 19:26.34 | Nectur | sudo works without pass so i think i am |
| 19:27.11 | mirda | sudo needs your login password but your account must be in group sudo |
| 19:27.46 | Nectur | im logged as :user |
| 19:28.30 | Nectur | visudo seems encrypted only jibberish shows up in nano |
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| 19:29.12 | dvs | mirda: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1435251 |
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| 19:30.24 | mirda | dvs: oh thank you very much, i didn't find this page |
| 19:30.55 | dvs | mirda: Or this one http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Configurations/DFI/Lanparty%20MI%20P55-T36 |
| 19:31.23 | mirda | i realized, that temp2 (thermal diode) should be CPU temp because it has values most close to coretemp values |
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| 19:35.06 | tekkitindisguise | Hello |
| 19:35.27 | tekkitindisguise | I've been using manjaro linux a few days now after usig |
| 19:35.34 | tekkitindisguise | Ubuntu |
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| 19:36.14 | dvs | !based on Debian |
| 19:36.15 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 19:36.41 | tekkitindisguise | And I like it but It always crashes. Is debian stable? |
| 19:37.24 | tekkitindisguise | Also, can I customize it much? |
| 19:37.43 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: yes and yes |
| 19:37.45 | tekkitindisguise | ex. Installing compiz on xfce |
| 19:37.52 | tekkitindisguise | and all that |
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| 19:39.11 | tekkitindisguise | I had moved to manjaro because it was very customizable and faster than sluggish Ubuntu. Manjaro is new and crashy. Do you suggest debian under these circumstances? |
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| 19:40.19 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: this channel suggests debian under almost all circumstances :) |
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| 19:41.39 | mirda | debian is very stable and doesn't contain surprises (change mount points under /media to /media/user/ without warning for example) |
| 19:41.46 | tekkitindisguise | I know but personally, not for advertisement, would you say Debian would fit under what I want?(Fast, customizable, and stable) |
| 19:41.57 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: of course it would |
| 19:42.22 | mtn | notices tekkitindisguise does not include new software in his criteria |
| 19:42.53 | tekkitindisguise | Does it have new software? |
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| 19:43.03 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: nope |
| 19:43.10 | tekkitindisguise | Can I add Ubuntu repo's If so choose? |
| 19:43.14 | mtn | nope |
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| 19:43.32 | tekkitindisguise | Really? :( |
| 19:43.35 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 19:44.04 | ffog | there are things to translate packages from one distro to another but uhhh i think its only worth trying in unique cases |
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| 19:44.44 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: debian has stable software, not the latest software ;) |
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| 19:45.01 | edakiri | I'd say Debian has been stable in the past year. -- not always. and Wheezy was reliable. |
| 19:45.03 | tekkitindisguise | Aww I might not switch |
| 19:45.05 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: this might be of interest: http://packages.debian.org |
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| 19:45.33 | tekkitindisguise | I've seen 'em I have a Ras Pi |
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| 19:46.39 | ItsLuke | debian all the way |
| 19:46.42 | ItsLuke | :) |
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| 19:48.43 | tekkitindisguise | Do you know of any forks of debian that are as fast, customizable, and with newer software |
| 19:48.51 | tekkitindisguise | a lot to ask |
| 19:48.56 | avshalom | debian testing |
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| 19:49.33 | avshalom | some examples: gcc 4.9.1, R 3.1.1, postgresql 9.4beta2. all current |
| 19:49.35 | tekkitindisguise | I think I'll choose #! |
| 19:49.43 | grondilu | How can I use flash with chromium? |
| 19:50.31 | mtn | grondilu: you need the pepperflash plugin. |
| 19:50.41 | avshalom | tekkitindisguise: i have a hard time believing that one distro will be significantly faster than another |
| 19:50.59 | tekkitindisguise | It's true Ubuntu is a slug |
| 19:51.07 | tekkitindisguise | I used it and i cant stand it |
| 19:51.34 | avshalom | tekkitindisguise: that may be its desktop environment. but i think if you install whatever that is on debian, or crunchbang, it will be the same speed |
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| 19:51.53 | grondilu | mtn: ok, thanks |
| 19:52.06 | avshalom | tekkitindisguise: but, if i wrote a fortran program, it would run the same speed on all distributions |
| 19:53.02 | tekkitindisguise | No, because some have sloppier code, like ubuntu |
| 19:53.34 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: no need to bash other distros in this channel. do you have a debian question? |
| 19:53.38 | tekkitindisguise | How Windows is to Ubuntu is how debian and faster ones like that are to Ubuntu |
| 19:53.43 | tekkitindisguise | Yes |
| 19:53.46 | tekkitindisguise | sorry |
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| 19:54.31 | mtn | tekkitindisguise: if you just wish to chat, there are off-topic channels |
| 19:54.33 | tekkitindisguise | anyway, I'll be looking around for a good distro now, but thanks for the help anyway! |
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| 20:06.02 | grondilu | hum, added non-free in debian.list but apt-cache search pepper does not show anything relevant. I did add non-free only in the unstable repo, though. Is it on testing/stable? |
| 20:06.49 | Rudde | Hello, rar2fs won't get automounted when I have it in crontab, but works perfectly when I run the samme command outside crontab, how is this possible? |
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| 20:07.32 | sinonick | grondily it's in non-free, the package is called pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
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| 20:07.39 | sinonick | grondilu, make sure you apt-get update first |
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| 20:08.19 | grondilu | sinonick: I did. I've just added non-free in testing and stable and re-run apt-get update |
| 20:08.59 | sinonick | is it an i386 installation? (i'm certain the package exists for wheezy and jessie for x86_64 |
| 20:09.08 | babilen | grondilu: And please do *not* mix stable with testing or unstable |
| 20:09.16 | jmcnaught | grondilu: pepperflashplugin-nonfree is in contrib (not non-free) in wheezy-backports for Stable. I hope you aren't mixing testing/unstable repos into your Wheezy sources |
| 20:09.21 | mtn | grondilu: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=pepperflash |
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| 20:09.26 | babilen | judd: v pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 20:09.27 | judd | Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.4~bpo60+1; sid/contrib: 1.5; jessie/contrib: 1.5 |
| 20:09.44 | babilen | grondilu: If you track stable you can install it from wheezy-backports ^^^ |
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| 20:10.02 | grondilu | is on Sid (siduction) |
| 20:10.18 | babilen | grondilu: Oh, we don't support siduction |
| 20:10.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell grondilu -about siduction |
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| 20:15.58 | captain_haddock | Is there any way of turning rate limiting off in ufw? |
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| 20:16.26 | ffog | oops |
| 20:17.19 | captain_haddock | (I've a script that makes multiple ssh calls to my server to perform tasks. This is triggering ufw's rate limit) |
| 20:17.58 | physixer | I'm unable to apply urxvt settings from .Xresources/.Xdefaults in openbox. Just trying to hide scrollBar e.g. |
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| 20:18.40 | hmw_ | >/part |
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| 20:21.03 | physixer | ok I see two urxvt options in Debian menu. plain 'urxvt' and 'urxvt Xft'. How do I make 'urxvt Xft' open when I click main openbox menu right-click option: Terminal emulator |
| 20:22.09 | physixer | but even then the scrollbar is not hidden |
| 20:22.18 | woshty | Anyone else having issues with 340 close source nvidia driver from sid? It seems a little slow .. |
| 20:22.51 | towo` | "It seems a little slow .." sayes nothing |
| 20:24.34 | woshty | towo`: I did not do benchmarks. |
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| 20:25.13 | towo` | and what do you expect now? |
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| 20:27.12 | rryoumaa | when i run pstree, it shows duplicates that do not show up in ps aux, and that show up after killall. for example, " |-login---startx---xinit-+-.xinitrc---fluxbox-+-emacs-+-bash" and " |-fluxbox-+-emacs-+-bash" |
| 20:27.20 | woshty | towo`: Are you running nvidia gfx with 340? |
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| 20:27.49 | towo` | no, i'm running nvidia with 343.13 |
| 20:28.32 | physixer | urxvt -sb ... does not turn off the scrollBar ... help! |
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| 20:31.48 | woshty | towo`: I suspected maybe some energy saving stuff that changed to be enabled by default or something along those lines. With 3.14 or newer kernel? |
| 20:32.27 | towo` | woshty, i don't know, since i don't know your "problem" |
| 20:33.09 | towo` | "It seems a little slow .." sayes nothing, again |
| 20:33.25 | mechanicalduck_ | glukt: Are you online? Or is your computer nonoperational now ? :D |
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| 21:11.59 | icor1031 | http://pastebin.com/REvh3t8F |
| 21:12.03 | icor1031 | How do I fix this? |
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| 21:13.24 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell icor1031 about -basic apt troubleshooting |
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| 21:13.35 | jmcnaught | errr |
| 21:13.40 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell icor1031 about bat |
| 21:14.52 | icor1031 | O.K., thanks. |
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| 21:17.49 | nullfaith | Any ideas? |
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| 21:21.25 | nullfaith | nvm i finally got it, thanks anyway. |
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| 22:05.14 | jhutchins | nullfaith: What was it? You're aparently the only one wo knows. |
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| 22:13.03 | pfsense_rookie | I have a Samsung NP530U4B-S02PT and I am running Debian 7.6 . It is running very hot while idle (~70ºC) and it goes up to 85ºC even with the proprietary drivers installed (without them it would easily overheat and shutdown itself). Needless to say that my battery is running out extremely quick compared to Windows. The main source of the issue is hybrid graphics: Intel HD 3000/radeon hd 7550M. I have tried other Linux distributions out |
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| 22:14.24 | dvs | pfsense_rookie: Have you tried the backported kernel? |
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| 22:18.02 | pfsense_rookie | dvs, well I have, but I did not see significant difference. I did install the proprietary drivers on that attempt. I am not sure if that's the correct path. |
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| 22:23.52 | pfsense_rookie | dvs, I am really fearful when dealing with the proprietary drivers. It installs well and all according to the manual, but then after a few reboots decides not to give a GUI and them I need to go into the logs and lose some time... |
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| 22:24.46 | dvs | pfsense_rookie: I've never used proprietary drivers |
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| 22:25.57 | Abbott | So is there no way to get deluge 1.3.6 on a wheezy box nicely? I decided to pull all the jessie dependencies because there wasn't a backport and now I can't apt-get install curl because it depends on libcurl3 which is now jessie |
| 22:26.13 | pfsense_rookie | dvs, I really wish I would not have to. |
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| 22:27.12 | Abbott | is there a better way to update a single package to jessie other than using a backport or pulling all of the jessie dependencies? |
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| 22:27.43 | Abbott | and/or is running a jessie system really that bad? |
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| 22:28.32 | mtn | Abbott: jessie is pretty good, at least in my opinion. depends on what you want, I suppose |
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| 22:29.49 | uniqdom | I'm debugging a program that i have writen with GDB. I get a segfault... and it says that it was in genops.c file, which i don't have. How can I find which package have that file, in order to install it? |
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| 22:30.38 | peterrooney | uniqdom: apt-file. as in, "apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search genops.c" |
| 22:31.47 | Abbott | I'll try going full jessie |
| 22:32.00 | Abbott | i think that could be cool |
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| 22:34.20 | uniqdom | peterrooney: "apt-file search genops.c" returns nothing here... could it be related to my /etc/apt/source.list not including deb-src repositories?? |
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| 22:49.24 | peterrooney | uniqdom: seems unlikely. I have various deb-src lines enabled on this box, and I too have nothing here. |
| 22:49.44 | uniqdom | :( |
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| 22:51.30 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: This bug?: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=634261 |
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| 22:55.20 | uniqdom | no... there is a bug with a pointer in my code... but need that genops.c file to detect what is causing it to do the segfault. obviously is not related to that file, is just my code |
| 22:57.31 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: so symbols are missing for further debugging the segfault? |
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| 22:58.49 | uniqdom | yes |
| 23:00.11 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: You build from debian source packages? |
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| 23:00.24 | uniqdom | no |
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| 23:00.48 | uniqdom | hmmn. what do you mean? |
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| 23:02.16 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: You compile some source, so the problem comes from a library. |
| 23:02.31 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: I mean, that source, is it custom, written by you or are you rebuilding a debian package from source? |
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| 23:03.32 | uniqdom | I'm compiling my code which includes some libs... those libs come from debian repository... they aren't from sources |
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| 23:06.33 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: You are linking against libs from debian packages. What lib is affected? |
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| 23:10.57 | uniqdom | ok... my code deals with some pointers... at runtime, a sigsegf ocurrs... it crash in a printf() with a literal string... I know that the problem is not with printf. but in order to debug it with GDB i need some .c files... in this case I need genops.c, to see which arguments it uses, and to check the value of them |
| 23:11.11 | uniqdom | mechanicalduck_: ^ |
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| 23:12.00 | uniqdom | I need the debian package that have that source .c file |
| 23:12.16 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: libio? |
| 23:12.18 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: http://fossies.org/dox/glibc-2.19/genops_8c.html |
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| 23:14.27 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: libc6-dbg |
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| 23:14.48 | mechanicalduck_ | https://packages.debian.org/en/wheezy/libc6-dbg |
| 23:14.52 | mechanicalduck_ | This package contains the detached debugging symbols for the GNU C library. |
| 23:15.10 | uniqdom | hmmn... it's installed in my system... |
| 23:15.11 | mechanicalduck_ | So libio belongs to glibc, glibc is provided by Debian package libc6. |
| 23:15.19 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: Can the compiler use it? |
| 23:15.23 | mechanicalduck_ | Or debugger in this case |
| 23:15.34 | uniqdom | it doesn't seem to detect it |
| 23:15.45 | uniqdom | locate genops.c returns nothing |
| 23:16.11 | mechanicalduck_ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10000335/how-to-use-debug-version-of-libc |
| 23:16.32 | mechanicalduck_ | so what gives you (gdb) show debug-file-directory |
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| 23:17.48 | uniqdom | The directory where separate debug symbols are searched for is "/usr/lib/debug". |
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| 23:19.01 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: hm, you are using libc6 from Debian Jessie, right? |
| 23:19.12 | uniqdom | no, wheezy |
| 23:19.18 | mechanicalduck_ | ok, wheezy |
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| 23:19.55 | mechanicalduck_ | It is version 2.13-38, with some debian-specific additions. So let's see if there is genops.c and friends for that version in upstream. |
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| 23:20.43 | uniqdom | could this be related to a 64 bit - 32 bit architecture problem? |
| 23:20.51 | uniqdom | this is a 64 bits machine |
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| 23:21.04 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: You cross compile for another arch? |
| 23:21.10 | uniqdom | no |
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| 23:22.09 | harlan | So I just upgraded from 7.5 to 7.6. I'm trying to install libseccomp and I'm not finding it in my package list. What do I need to do? |
| 23:22.48 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: So this would be the upstream source for libc version 2.13: https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=tree;h=a1624c51222177d47b3ddd0ba89e305436d10b5c;hb=6392473fe970b0cdace62f31000a83ba0fcf6161 |
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| 23:23.55 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: Check directory libio |
| 23:24.04 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: You will find genops.c in there. |
| 23:24.08 | uniqdom | i see the file there |
| 23:24.18 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: It is not 100% the same version, but for debugging it should be fine. |
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| 23:24.53 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: So you can check the source out (it is a git repository), check out commit 6392473fe970b0cdace62f31000a83ba0fcf6161 and build the debug symbols yourself. |
| 23:25.02 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: For tracking the real issue this should be sufficient I think. |
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| 23:25.28 | mechanicalduck_ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10138342/compiling-glibc-from-source-with-debug-symbols |
| 23:25.33 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: ^^ |
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| 23:25.41 | uniqdom | Thanks :) |
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| 23:25.48 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: no problem :D |
| 23:26.01 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: My irc client is always on, tell me whether this worked. |
| 23:26.16 | mechanicalduck_ | *then |
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| 23:28.27 | mechanicalduck_ | uniqdom: As a nice touch you can also replay the (quilt) patches in the debian glibc6-dbg source package on the checked out code, but I don't think it is necessary. |
| 23:28.31 | mechanicalduck_ | *libc6-dbg |
| 23:28.46 | uniqdom | ok |
| 23:31.06 | klys | .u ohkei |
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