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| 00:08.15 | pussygladiator | hey |
| 00:08.21 | pussygladiator | i added a user to sudo |
| 00:08.27 | pussygladiator | and let all sudo group have sudo |
| 00:08.35 | pussygladiator | but it says the user is not in the sudo file |
| 00:08.37 | pussygladiator | what is wrong? |
| 00:09.05 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, how did you add the user to sudo? |
| 00:09.09 | pussygladiator | visudo |
| 00:09.30 | pussygladiator | nvm |
| 00:09.31 | pussygladiator | got it |
| 00:09.35 | pussygladiator | had the % missing |
| 00:09.39 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, also, you may have to re-login in order for the changes to take effect. |
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| 00:27.11 | pussygladiator | how can I install emacs with X |
| 00:29.18 | pfsense_rookie | That would be emacs23 for GTK, as far as Debian stable is concerned. |
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| 00:30.13 | pussygladiator | emacs23-nox? |
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| 00:34.41 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, that one is without X. The name speaks for itself. |
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| 00:36.08 | pussygladiator | yeah |
| 00:36.13 | pussygladiator | is there a 24 with X |
| 00:36.16 | pussygladiator | its a server |
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| 00:44.05 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, really confused man. emacs23 is what you want, if you want X. |
| 00:44.20 | pussygladiator | Isn't emacs24 newer? |
| 00:45.45 | pfsense_rookie | I don't have emacs24 available. I am on Wheezy 7.6 |
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| 00:47.08 | jmcnaught | emacs24 is available in wheezy-backports |
| 00:47.16 | pussygladiator | When is linux better than FreeBSD? |
| 00:47.21 | pussygladiator | For a server environment |
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| 00:48.55 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, not at routing as a starting point. |
| 00:50.35 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, then there's also the matter of licensing, but that has a less than obvious answer. |
| 00:50.55 | pussygladiator | Whos is more restrictive? |
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| 00:54.19 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, those are really questions for a computer scientist. I will not try to taint your opinion too much. Be aware though, there are different perspectives to restrictive. |
| 00:54.31 | pussygladiator | I got 1 more question |
| 00:54.40 | pussygladiator | Is it possible to run Gnome 2 like CentOS? |
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| 00:56.17 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, that makes little sense... Gnome2 being a Desktop Environment and CentOS being a GNU/Linux distribution. |
| 00:56.31 | pussygladiator | no i mean |
| 00:56.37 | pussygladiator | does the repos have gnome 2 |
| 00:56.39 | pussygladiator | on debian |
| 00:56.53 | pussygladiator | or can I install gnome 2 onto debian |
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| 00:58.44 | jmcnaught | pussygladiator: not really. the previous release of Debian (6, or Squeeze) came with Gnome 2 but it's no longer supported. Debian 7 (Wheezy) comes with Gnome 3. If you really need to have Gnome 2, you could look into installing MATE (which renamed Gnome 2 and continues to develop it). MATE is in wheezy-backports. |
| 00:59.42 | pfsense_rookie | pussygladiator, what jmcnaught said. |
| 01:00.32 | pussygladiator | ok |
| 01:00.33 | pussygladiator | ty |
| 01:00.39 | jmcnaught | pussygladiator: You can search for packages available in Debian here: https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and also on the command line with "apt-cache" and "aptitude". Read the man page for either of these commands, and also see the chapters on the package management system in the Debian Reference and the Debian Administrator's Handbook |
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| 01:06.35 | fishcooker | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8265436/ |
| 01:08.02 | dvs | ? |
| 01:10.03 | themill | dpkg: tell fishcooker about cross-post |
| 01:11.16 | montyboy | fishcooker: check the immutable bit on authorized_keys lsattr |
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| 01:16.22 | RayzrShrp | anybody know where in jessie the volume icon is? wheezy had the little speaker in the top bar but jessie is nowhere to be found |
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| 01:24.27 | voxadam | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:30.55 | RayzrShrp | anyone? |
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| 01:31.14 | pfsense_rookie | I have sound. |
| 01:31.23 | RayzrShrp | is there something different i have to do? |
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| 01:31.32 | RayzrShrp | sound works fine on wheezy but silence on jessie |
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| 01:31.56 | pfsense_rookie | I am not good with troubleshooting sound. Sorry. Look in the control center or something. |
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| 01:57.34 | RayzrShrp | does jessie handle sound differently then wheezy? is that from systemd vs systemv |
| 01:58.32 | pfsense_rookie | Maybe it's best if you go to #debian-next on the OFTC network as well. |
| 01:58.49 | pfsense_rookie | They're more used to Jessie over there. |
| 01:59.14 | centrx | RayzrShrp, If it really is just volume, you can use alsamixer to change the volume or unmute |
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| 01:59.29 | centrx | RayzrShrp, or if you are using pulseaudio there is another program for that like pavucontrol or something |
| 01:59.35 | RayzrShrp | centrx, i tried turning up volume but there is no output |
| 01:59.46 | RayzrShrp | i just installed jessie with the defaults |
| 02:00.03 | RayzrShrp | its running under vmware ws just like my wheezy is and wheezy has sound no problem |
| 02:00.32 | centrx | RayzrShrp, are you sure the underlying VM set up is identical? |
| 02:00.49 | RayzrShrp | yes triple checked it |
| 02:01.54 | RayzrShrp | i think its cause jessie is using systemd |
| 02:02.03 | RayzrShrp | only thing thats different that i can think of |
| 02:02.13 | RayzrShrp | my sound device hasnt changed |
| 02:02.30 | centrx | Could be, I haven't switched to systemd yet |
| 02:02.48 | jinppk | I installed an nvidia graphics card in my desktop, befor i was using the intel hd4600, and now it wont boot. i tried to chroot and install the nividia driverin recovery mode but it hasnt helpd |
| 02:03.20 | centrx | jinppk, Can you boot to console and install the drivers from there? Is that what you mean by chroot? |
| 02:03.56 | jinppk | No i cant boot to console. |
| 02:04.00 | jinppk | that i know of |
| 02:04.02 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell RayzrShrp about alsa checklist |
| 02:04.23 | jinppk | i booted with an install disk in recovery mode and it chroots to my / partition |
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| 02:05.19 | jinppk | iv just realised that i didnt have my boot partition mounted |
| 02:05.23 | jinppk | could that be why it didnt work? |
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| 02:07.38 | centrx | Seems like you would |
| 02:07.45 | centrx | need it |
| 02:08.03 | jinppk | ok so i mounted it and reinstalled nvidia |
| 02:08.16 | jinppk | but now i seem to be hanging on systemd-fsck |
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| 02:10.30 | RayzrShrp | jmcnaught, nope none of those helped |
| 02:10.33 | RayzrShrp | so weird |
| 02:10.37 | RayzrShrp | and frustrating |
| 02:10.42 | RayzrShrp | it works so well in wheezy |
| 02:11.36 | RayzrShrp | is there a way to configure the sound like with dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 02:11.48 | jinppk | centrx: fyi, turns out i forgot to disable the integrated card in bios! |
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| 02:16.28 | pussygladiator | hey |
| 02:16.31 | pussygladiator | I want to use this |
| 02:16.33 | pussygladiator | http://www.dev-metal.com/install-php-login-nets-4-full-mvc-framework-login-script-ubuntu/ |
| 02:16.46 | pussygladiator | but I need an SMTP |
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| 02:17.09 | pussygladiator | how can I setup the bare minimum of that functionality while keeping it safe? |
| 02:17.13 | pussygladiator | dont want a mail server tbh |
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| 02:20.28 | jmcnaught | pussygladiator: it seems like the instructions say you can use a third-party SMTP service and even has some links to some |
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| 02:25.02 | jmcnaught | RayzrShrp: did you try toggling the mute on every channel in alsamixer? I doubt it has anything to do with systemd, Jessie has newer everything. You might try asking in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net which is the official channel for Debian Testing, maybe someone there has encountered your issue |
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| 02:28.24 | RayzrShrp | ill give it a shot thanks |
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| 03:04.24 | deepblue | how to install Fedora20 ftom within Debian? |
| 03:04.37 | deepblue | how to install Fedora20 from within Debian? |
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| 03:05.55 | jmcnaught | deepblue: did you try asking in #fedora? Are you trying to install it in a VM or container or something? |
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| 03:26.39 | deepblue | jmcnaught, i wanna install it to the HDD /dev/sdb3 without using cd's or usb flash |
| 03:28.25 | jmcnaught | deepblue: you'd have to check the fedora documentation on how to install it from another distro |
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| 03:29.34 | PryMar56 | deepblue, best advice is find a fc19+, C6+ VM or install and do `yum install --installroot /mnt yum rpm fedora-release` , then tar cpzf that up and extract it into a folder on debian, then chroot |
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| 03:30.39 | PryMar56 | deepblue, that blob is only about 70MB |
| 03:31.20 | deepblue | PryMar56, vm is not supported by cpu |
| 03:34.11 | PryMar56 | deepblue, build a minimum package set and port it over to debian and finish in a chroot |
| 03:35.21 | PryMar56 | unless its a fedora with systemd, where chroot doesn't work |
| 03:35.58 | deepblue | PryMar56, ok,that may work,thanx |
| 03:36.28 | PryMar56 | deepblue, thats how I got a centos install into wheezy |
| 03:36.41 | PryMar56 | with no complications from systemd |
| 03:37.51 | deepblue | i'll give it a try now.i only do it for learning purposes |
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| 03:58.09 | Ooze | I'm trying to install Debian on my Poweredge 2950, but it can't find the network driver |
| 03:58.21 | Ooze | This says installation works fine up to that kernel https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/PowerEdge2950/lenny |
| 03:58.52 | Ooze | Does this mean I'm using a version beyond or do I need to manually install the driver either way? |
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| 04:00.46 | pfsense_rookie | Wbjhttp://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/poweredge-2950/pd |
| 04:01.01 | pfsense_rookie | Which is your NIC? |
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| 04:01.56 | Ooze | Network card: Broadcom Corporation ?NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet |
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| 04:02.44 | jmcnaught | Ooze: if the installer is telling you it cannot find firmware, there's a section of the install manual that covers this: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en (there is also a link there to a netinst iso that includes most firmware on the disc) |
| 04:03.11 | Ooze | I finish the installation though, then I install it afterwards? |
| 04:04.01 | jmcnaught | Ooze: sure you can do that. firmwares can be installed as packages, some of them require the non-free repository. |
| 04:04.19 | Ooze | Well if it's the network driver I don't be able to install from the repos, correct? |
| 04:04.55 | Ooze | I won't* |
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| 04:05.08 | jmcnaught | Ooze: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-bnx2 it looks like this is the package you'll need to install. And yeah, you might need to configure /etc/apt/sources.list after the installation because it will probably just have the CD |
| 04:05.44 | Ooze | Well sure, but I won't have internet connection without this driver |
| 04:05.45 | Ooze | Right? |
| 04:06.04 | Ooze | So I've got to install it from another disc? |
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| 04:06.41 | Ooze | Should I just be skipping the network hardware section of the install now? |
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| 04:07.18 | Rothgar` | Hi Guys I am having some problems with a script and have no idea why the issue is occuring would like some input from someone |
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| 04:07.35 | jmcnaught | Ooze: which iso did you use? You could also just download the firmware tarball linked in the install manual link above, unpack it to a USB stick, and have the installer look for the firmware again |
| 04:07.46 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: pastebin it |
| 04:07.48 | Rothgar` | I am trying to use the script here http://www.fuschlberger.net/programs/ssh-scp-sftp-chroot-jail/ |
| 04:08.09 | Rothgar` | It has a like where it uses the mktemp binary and that is failing on the latest Debian |
| 04:08.12 | Ooze | I think I'm going to try that now jmcnaught |
| 04:08.34 | Rothgar` | When I run the command manually on shell it works? However in the script it fails |
| 04:08.47 | Mr_Queue | full path it? |
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| 04:09.05 | Rothgar` | Well I am curious as to why it's not working? |
| 04:09.13 | Rothgar` | Example line in script: |
| 04:09.20 | Rothgar` | TMPFILE2=`mktemp` &> /dev/null || TMPFILE2="${HOME}/ldlist2"; if [ -x ${TMPFILE2} ]; then mv ${TMPFILE2} ${TMPFILE2}.bak;fi |
| 04:09.38 | Rothgar` | I've tried to cut that just back to TMPFILE1=`mktemp` &> /dev/null; echo "TEST: ${TMPFILE1}"; for testing and the variable is blank |
| 04:09.45 | Mr_Queue | full path it |
| 04:10.12 | Rothgar` | What static path it like it has as a backup? |
| 04:10.15 | Mr_Queue | lazy here.. TMPFILE2=$(which mktemp) |
| 04:11.11 | Rothgar` | How is that different? If I run TMPFILE2=`mktemp` &> /dev/null from shell and then check ${TMPFILE1} it is populated? |
| 04:11.34 | Mr_Queue | well, if that's not in the $PATH you're boned.. |
| 04:11.39 | Rothgar` | ${TMPFILE2} I mean |
| 04:11.57 | Mr_Queue | You're 99% of the time better off calling everything all the time from the full path always. |
| 04:12.16 | Mr_Queue | Plus, your shell history will make more sense in 10 months or to your colleagues. |
| 04:12.17 | Rothgar` | Oh you mean it's not finding the mktemp binary? |
| 04:12.25 | Mr_Queue | Yes, perhaps. |
| 04:12.36 | Mr_Queue | cron can be weird like that. |
| 04:12.44 | Ooze | jmcnaught, I've got the .deb on a fat32 usb, it asks if I want to choose from installation media and I say yes |
| 04:12.54 | Rothgar` | The same exact script on Debian 5.0.5 with mktemp version 1.5 works which is weird |
| 04:12.55 | Ooze | but then says something about conflict w/ the kernel |
| 04:13.07 | Rothgar` | This is on Debian 7.6 and mktemp (GNU coreutils) 8.13 |
| 04:13.08 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: $PATH could have changed. |
| 04:13.43 | Rothgar` | Ok I will check with full path then and see |
| 04:14.59 | jmcnaught | Ooze: are you following the instructions in the link i gave you? that page has a link to a tarball/zip files (not .deb) that you can put on a stick. The section of the install manual on preparing USB install media also shows you how to put these files on the same USB stick as the .iso file |
| 04:15.02 | Rothgar` | It does have a PATH line in the script but let me check |
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| 04:15.17 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: If you look at the rest of your line, everything but 'mv' looks like it's already assigned full paths already.. |
| 04:15.24 | Ooze | jmcnaught, the installation media I'm using is a DVD |
| 04:15.26 | Mr_Queue | Just good practice. |
| 04:15.42 | Ooze | I put the .deb from https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-bnx2 |
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| 04:16.22 | Rothgar` | That made no difference? |
| 04:17.01 | Rothgar` | I ran a find and the binary is in /bin/mktemp |
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| 04:17.23 | Mr_Queue | yeah 'which mktemp' would have worked too.. |
| 04:17.36 | Mr_Queue | hang on, let me look at it again. |
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| 04:17.44 | Rothgar` | TMPFILE1=`/bin/mktemp` &> /dev/null; echo "TEST: ${TMPFILE1}"; variable is blank |
| 04:18.27 | jmcnaught | Ooze: okay. did the installer find it? if not you can still install the package after the installation |
| 04:18.59 | Ooze | No, I get "No kernel modules were found." |
| 04:19.20 | Ooze | So just don't install a driver now and install the .deb once I'm booted in? |
| 04:19.56 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: Well, || says if you didn't work then do the next thing.. |
| 04:20.01 | Mr_Queue | But your tmp file worked. |
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| 04:20.16 | jmcnaught | Ooze: should be fine if you're using DVD1 which is full of packages. Obviously you'd need a connection if using the netinst image |
| 04:20.18 | Mr_Queue | I think you want && instead. |
| 04:20.22 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: Y^ |
| 04:20.52 | Rothgar` | Well the temp file is not working and the variable is printing as blank |
| 04:21.13 | Rothgar` | I end up with /root/make_chroot_jail.sh: 431: /root/make_chroot_jail.sh: cannot create : Directory nonexistent |
| 04:21.49 | Ooze | jmcnaught, Would it be easier to install the iso to my flash drive and then put the modules in there? |
| 04:23.04 | Rothgar` | It seems to catch that mktemp worked and is not using ldlist backup |
| 04:23.45 | Rothgar` | If I use ldlist backup and remove the mktemp part it seems to work but I was curious as to what the issue is with the mktemp since it worked on the older Debian install I have |
| 04:24.28 | rx_ | hmm i was using an old ver of debian and moved to testing last nite (new install) but forgot to backup some fontconfig scripts... well i thought it would be okay without customizations but some fonts arent sexy by default... the text on osnews.com on chrome is too pale... i like darker/more contrasted font with cleartype on. is there a page in the wiki for this? |
| 04:25.27 | jmcnaught | Ooze: if you install without a network configuring your /etc/apt/sources.list is not that difficult. You'll need to use "dpkg -i" with the .deb for your firmware after the install too. If you prefer to start over with USB instead, https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en shows how to prepare the USB stick and put firmware on a second partition on the stick |
| 04:26.06 | Ooze | This is so much more than I signed up for |
| 04:26.16 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: use this: if [[ -f ${TMPFILE2} ]]; then mv ${TMPFILE2} ${TMPFILE2}.bak;fi |
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| 04:28.24 | jmcnaught | Ooze: the reason for this is that by default Debian doesn't include closed source firmwares. Debian distributes stuff that isn't "free as in freedom" in a separate "non-free" section of its archives. If you need firmwares during the install, the options are to put them on the install media yourself, or use the unofficial "firmware" netinst iso (which is also linked to in the install manual :) |
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| 04:29.25 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: I'm only half paying attention to what you're doing, but you may want to read about flock also.. |
| 04:29.53 | Mr_Queue | http://linux.die.net/man/1/flock |
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| 04:32.30 | Rothgar` | Mr_Queue: Is your change actually going to fix anything if $TMPFILE1 and $TMPFILE2 are still going to end up null because of the mktemp bug? |
| 04:33.50 | Mr_Queue | mktmp works, your test was broke. |
| 04:34.00 | Mr_Queue | missd [[]] and -x |
| 04:36.06 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: http://paste.debian.net/119571/ |
| 04:36.57 | Ooze | jmcnaught: Can't I just put that .deb in the root dir of my new install USB? |
| 04:38.26 | jmcnaught | Ooze: it'll be read-only. How did you prepare the USB stick? |
| 04:39.24 | Ooze | cp debian.iso /dev/sdg |
| 04:39.26 | Ooze | sync |
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| 04:39.55 | pfsense_rookie | jmcnaught, from past experience I used firmware files on the debian-installer to install network related drivers. Does it take debs as well? |
| 04:40.55 | jmcnaught | pfsense_rookie: the firmware tarball/zip is actually just full of .deb files. Or do you me the actual firmware files contained in those packages? |
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| 04:42.14 | Ooze | I'm able to boot into my new usb just fine. Do I really need to make a new partition to instal that driver? I read somewhere it just had to be in the root dir or /modules or something |
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| 04:42.26 | Rothgar` | Mr_Queue: Worked from command-line not from script? |
| 04:42.50 | Rothgar` | I ended up through command-line with a .bak file |
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| 04:43.22 | Rothgar` | But through the script it still fails mv: missing destination file operand after `.bak' |
| 04:43.41 | Rothgar` | Because the variable is null |
| 04:44.17 | pfsense_rookie | jmcnaught, I used a file named iwlwifi-6000g2b-5.ucode , which seems to be binary. |
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| 04:44.36 | Rothgar` | What version of mktemp are you using? |
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| 04:44.57 | pfsense_rookie | I'm sure it's included in a deb package somewhere. I just didn't know the installer took deb files for firmware. |
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| 04:45.59 | jmcnaught | pfsense_rookie: checkout the sections of the install mannual on "preparing usb media" and "loading missing firmware". |
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| 04:49.59 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: Debian stable |
| 04:50.03 | pfsense_rookie | jmcnaught, from "Loading Missing Firmware" : "loading the firmware is most likely to succeed from a FAT-formatted floppy disk or USB stick." This is the method I used last time. It did not always work and I used the .ucode files (binary) normally I would just copy these files to /lib/firmware after the installation process. |
| 04:50.22 | Rothgar` | Mr_Queue: No I mean version of mktemp |
| 04:50.39 | Rothgar` | I just tried an apt-get install mktemp and got 8.13 now same issue |
| 04:50.57 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: 8.13 |
| 04:51.02 | Mr_Queue | from core |
| 04:51.10 | Mr_Queue | which is what is in stable |
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| 04:51.54 | Ooze | pfsense_rookie: So should I be putting the .deb on my installation media or just do it after I've installed everthing else, like when I'm booted into the system? |
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| 04:52.34 | jmcnaught | pfsense_rookie: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en it shows you in these instructions how to format the second partition on the USB stick an extract the firmware tarball (which is just full of .deb files). Instead of manually copying the files into /lib/firmware after the installation, it would be better to install the firmware packages with apt-get |
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| 04:53.46 | pfsense_rookie | jmcnaught, hm I see. I am not yet familiar with this method. |
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| 04:58.39 | jmcnaught | pfsense_rookie: i guess you could say it's the "official method" since it's what's documented in the installation manual. even though the installer is easy enough to figure out without reading the docs, the installation manual is still worth reading at least once. There could be some useful tricks or features you don't know about yet, the installer is quite powerful |
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| 05:00.53 | pfsense_rookie | jmcnaught, yeah I have taken a look, but it still feels quite dense when I wasn't testing any of it and it just went through the sludge. |
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| 05:21.29 | Rothgar` | Mr_Queue: FYI removing the /dev/null redirects seem to have fixed the issue, not sure why this was not needed on older Debian there was other reference to teh default shell being the problem and changing to bash would also fix |
| 05:21.42 | Rothgar` | Thanks for the help |
| 05:22.12 | Mr_Queue | Rothgar`: Cool dude, good luck.. |
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| 05:31.10 | dpkg | MariaDB is a community-developed fork of <MySQL>, intended to be a backward compatible drop-in replacement. Packaged in Debian <testing>, packages from mariadb.org are not supported in #debian. http://mariadb.org/ #maria on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 05:32.12 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell terminator about selftell |
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| 05:32.45 | jmcnaught | terminator: there's also http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/search.php where you can search for factoids |
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| 05:35.36 | terminator | jmcnaught: alright |
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| 05:47.49 | zq | is it possible to live boot without aufs, and if so, how? |
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| 06:10.16 | raidensnake | does anyonw know an easy way to fix a host header attack vulnerability in apache? |
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| 06:12.30 | raidensnake | I'm having a hard time resolving this as I'm using the default 2.2 on wheezy |
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| 06:37.45 | InTheWings | can anyone point me out a way to find what package requires 2.19-10 (madison shows it not on sources) ? libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.13-38+deb7u4) but 2.19-10 is to be installed |
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| 06:41.44 | centrx | InTheWings, This is probably because you have conflicting entries in your sources.list |
| 06:42.14 | InTheWings | 2.9.10 being in sid but I don't have sources for sid. only wheezy + unstable |
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| 06:42.48 | centrx | InTheWings, unstable is sid |
| 06:43.03 | InTheWings | damn |
| 06:43.11 | InTheWings | but that source is removed |
| 06:43.29 | centrx | InTheWings, You may have inadvertently upgraded your system to unstable |
| 06:43.52 | centrx | InTheWings, Now you have libc6 2.19-10 installed, from unstable/sid or testing/jessie |
| 06:44.20 | InTheWings | installed state explains an "is to be installed" ? |
| 06:46.14 | centrx | InTheWings, It can |
| 06:46.29 | centrx | InTheWings, It could also mean you have other software half-installed that depends on 2.19-10 being installed |
| 06:46.30 | InTheWings | for confusion yes :/ |
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| 06:46.53 | InTheWings | I have to find out again what mess happens then |
| 06:46.56 | InTheWings | thanks |
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| 06:47.10 | InTheWings | blames puppet apt not allowing to disable sources |
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| 07:16.48 | Toto123 | "Warning: Network TCP port 60922 is being used by /usr/sbin/nginx. Possible rootkit: zaRwT.KiT" How is it possible to know if it is a false positive ? |
| 07:17.35 | kill_-9_1 | Toto123: You have a weak password. |
| 07:17.43 | kill_-9_1 | (true positive) |
| 07:17.51 | Toto123 | weak password ? |
| 07:18.10 | Toto123 | which one ? |
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| 07:19.13 | kill_-9_1 | Toto123: Weak password (for any account)providing shell access. |
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| 07:22.22 | Toto123 | kill> my passwords are not weak and there is no root access with ssh, I am also using fail2ban... |
| 07:23.09 | Toto123 | Doing lsof -i | grep "60922" or netstat -an | grep "60922" I got nothing but why do I have received this email ? |
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| 07:26.49 | rryoumaa | Toto123: false positives are most likely with a lot of those thins (rkhunter, tiger, chkrootkit), i found |
| 07:27.22 | rryoumaa | i spent much time getting rid of the false positives. now i'm not sure if much is left. :) |
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| 07:28.02 | Toto123 | rryoumaa> well yeah but how can I process to know if it a false or right positive ? |
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| 07:28.28 | Toto123 | rryoumaa> I am not a hacker :-/ |
| 07:28.53 | rryoumaa | neither am i. just common sense, googling, being impatient enough or patient enough, etc. |
| 07:29.23 | rryoumaa | ah, hang on |
| 07:30.28 | rryoumaa | some of those sockets are local sockets and those are probably false positives |
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| 07:32.07 | SanchoPensa | xfce and xdg-open? |
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| 07:32.46 | SanchoPensa | like for example when i click the "download now" link on adobes flash webpage? |
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| 07:58.15 | dontknow | so that i can remove them manually |
| 07:59.10 | ln_ | I'm on debian testing. I cannot install monodevelop ( http://pastebin.com/SShSQwKY ) I guess it has dependencies in stable and my packages are to new |
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| 08:01.12 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell ln_ about basic apt troubleshooting |
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| 08:03.55 | dontknow | oh my! ok i found |
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| 08:05.58 | rrt | Hi guys, what is the encryption that disk utility uses? is it luks or dm-crypt? |
| 08:06.13 | rrt | I cant find it anywhere... |
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| 08:07.24 | shay_shay | SynrG just thought I'd update you on a project I have been working on related to the uefi stub loader stuff I was doing the other day. I just added some basic tests to it. http://flymal.asia/~shawn/zz-update-efistub |
| 08:09.11 | shay_shay | Rrt did you check your other pants? |
| 08:09.23 | shay_shay | :) |
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| 08:22.09 | ln_ | jelly-home, ty apparently monodevelop is a package from stable and not available in testing (found that out by using acp) |
| 08:22.25 | jelly-home | ,v monodevelop |
| 08:22.26 | judd | Package: monodevelop on i386 -- squeeze: 2.4+dfsg-3; wheezy: 3.0.3.2+dfsg-1; sid: 4.0.12+dfsg-4 |
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| 08:23.15 | jelly-home | ln_: if you're using testing, picking it from unstable will probably work better for the time being (until the freeze starts) |
| 08:23.29 | jelly-home | ln_: read /msg dpkg tum |
| 08:24.01 | jelly-home | ln_: also, testing has a separate channel, on the irc.oftc.net network, called #debian-next |
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| 08:24.43 | ln_ | oh oftc okay, I tried to join here on freenode and it didn't let me in |
| 08:24.46 | ln_ | thx for your help |
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| 08:25.43 | dutchfish | ln_, jelly-home i had alot of problems with 4.0.12 but there is a new version upstream 5.0.1, fyi |
| 08:26.08 | ln_ | thx dutchfish |
| 08:29.01 | zq | ;q |
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| 08:31.58 | dutchfish | ln_, https://launchpad.net/~ermshiperete/+archive/ubuntu/monodevelop/+build/6062580 (not for debian) |
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| 08:33.23 | dutchfish | ln_, but it give some clou's how to roll your own |
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| 08:33.48 | ln_ | thx |
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| 09:21.50 | SmokeyD | hey all. I have an mdadm raid5 array with 3 disks (sdb1,sdc1,sdd1 all 1TB in size). Accidentally (yes, very stupid) I wrote an (debian live) image of 280Mb to sdb1 while sdd1 was still being synced (added it to the array 2hrs earlier). So my array is b0rked. But I was thinking, since only the first 280Mb of sdb1 were erased, it might be possible to recover the rest of the data on that partition, and since sdd1 was already syncing for 2 hours, those 280 |
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| 09:22.58 | SmokeyD | any clues how to proceed and make sdb1 recognized as a raid partition again and recover the data beyond the first 280Mb? If I lose those 280Mb that is too bad but not a disaster. If I can recover them, even better |
| 09:25.10 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: is the raid for data or do you boot of it? |
| 09:25.51 | SmokeyD | cynicallemon: data only |
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| 09:26.40 | nibbler_ | hi. I'm running wheezy on my Intel NUC (celeron). XBMC gives me like 8 Frames per second and gnome3 refuses to start (falling back). i tried kernel from backports and latest from kernel.org. if i boot up OpenElec XBMC works just smooth. any hint? |
| 09:27.22 | nibbler_ | SmokeyD: what raid level? |
| 09:27.26 | SmokeyD | raid5 |
| 09:29.01 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: when you say you wrote that debian image i assume you use dd? |
| 09:29.15 | SmokeyD | cynicallemon: yes |
| 09:29.39 | SmokeyD | it will have only written the first 280Mb of blocks to sdb1 I assume. The rest will have been left untouched |
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| 09:29.47 | SmokeyD | and b0rked the partition table |
| 09:29.53 | SmokeyD | but that is easy to recover |
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| 09:30.15 | SmokeyD | it just had 1 partition with type Non-FS data and 100% of the disk. |
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| 09:33.02 | ashka | hey, I want to install a packages that depends on httpd, however I compiled my http server because it was not in the repository. |
| 09:33.10 | cynicallemon | well im not 100% sure but its not looking good |
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| 09:33.33 | ashka | can I force APT to install the package without the httpd dependency, or do I need to package my compiled http server and install it ? |
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| 09:37.05 | SmokeyD | cynicallemon: I am assuming I need to recover the mdadm header for sdb1, and the ext4 filesystem table. That will leave me with the first 280Mb b0rked (since it was overwritten), but the rest of the data should be fine after that (I assume) |
| 09:37.11 | SmokeyD | or isn't it that simple? |
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| 09:39.15 | SmokeyD | or is there a way to resync the first 280Mb of sdc1+sdd1 (sdd1 was being synced for a while already) to sdb1, and leave the rest of sdb1 untouched? |
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| 09:41.08 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: yeah, like i say it doesnt look good, if that dd command borked sdb but the array still kept synching then that damage will have been replicated to those other drives possibly |
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| 09:43.09 | kapteinis | Hello, how do I make the ctrl+alt+f* teletype screens occupy the entire monitor rather than only a portion. |
| 09:46.16 | SmokeyD | cynicallemon: I don't think so because the dd was to the whole /dev/sdb, so the whole partition table, mdadm headers and everything was b0rked on it, so it stopped being part of the array. And I rebooted almost immediately after the dd |
| 09:46.28 | SmokeyD | and even then, it would only be the first 280Mb |
| 09:46.36 | SmokeyD | which I don't mind if I loose it |
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| 09:49.29 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: so if the array minus sdb was synched as per raid 5 then you could be able to to completely wipe sdb and assuming the raid comes back online then add back sdb - just a wild guess |
| 09:50.25 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: have you disconnected sdb and tried to see if it comes back online? |
| 09:50.56 | nkuttler | kapteinis: play with the vga boot parameter |
| 09:51.10 | SmokeyD | cynicallemon: not yet. I can try that first. But the sync was incomplete |
| 09:51.34 | kapteinis | nkuttler... the... huh? where is that |
| 09:52.00 | nkuttler | kapteinis: before you boot the kernel, in grub, hit e |
| 09:52.11 | nkuttler | kapteinis: add vga=X to the kernel parameters |
| 09:52.48 | nkuttler | kapteinis: for values see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers |
| 09:53.05 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: yeah thats the issue - its up to you |
| 09:53.11 | kapteinis | :Uc wow. ill try that in a sec once I finish php things |
| 09:53.28 | nkuttler | kapteinis: once you have figured out which value works for you, /etc/default/grub |
| 09:53.46 | nkuttler | and run update-grub |
| 09:54.07 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: maybe browse this first for ideas - https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_Recovery |
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| 09:55.26 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: also you may want to ask in ##linux too, some good brains there sometimes |
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| 10:07.55 | Guest73367 | i've resesied / to 20gb, but why can't i make another partition? |
| 10:08.11 | Guest73367 | and why the hell is sda2 which is / showing as 1tb |
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| 10:09.22 | cynicallemon | SmokeyD: also look at the testdisk utility too |
| 10:09.30 | Guest73367 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zKRX1p7k bug :| |
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| 10:30.31 | oo_miguel | Can anyone recommend a command line tool, that I can use to translate words betwwen german, english and maybe some other languages too? I imagine it would connect to some on-line translation service. |
| 10:32.13 | cynicallemon | straight off the top of my head im thinking lynx web browser with google translate |
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| 10:32.47 | abrotman | judd: info translate --release wheezy |
| 10:32.50 | judd | Package translate (text, optional) in wheezy/i386: translates words from English into German or viceversa. Version: 0.6-11; Size: 6.3k; Installed: 32k |
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| 10:35.08 | oo_miguel | thank you abrotman and cynicallemon. There also seems to be a google-translate-cli. |
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| 10:35.29 | cynicallemon | oo_miguel: yeah, just saw this http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/google-translate-cli-lets-you-translate.html |
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| 10:35.56 | abrotman | oo_miguel: apt-cache search translate german ? |
| 10:38.19 | oo_miguel | abrotman: no its not part of debian. I found the same link cynicallemon posted already |
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| 10:38.33 | abrotman | Iknow .. |
| 10:38.39 | abrotman | I meant for the other app |
| 10:38.55 | oo_miguel | abrotman: ah yes thank you |
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| 10:40.51 | oo_miguel | abrotman: I just installed it and will see if it works for me. thanks again |
| 10:41.07 | nkuttler | oo_miguel: fwiw, there are translation dictionaries. i just grep the one for de-en |
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| 10:41.16 | nkuttler | with a short function |
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| 10:41.33 | KonomiEee | does anyone happen to know if a user should be in netdev for the usual use of network manager? |
| 10:41.41 | KonomiEee | netdev group* |
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| 10:42.14 | jambajazz | what is wheel in linuxmint? |
| 10:42.30 | oo_miguel | nkuttler: do you recommend some place to get dictionaries? |
| 10:43.08 | jambajazz | xfce4 panel has dictionary |
| 10:43.13 | nkuttler | oo_miguel: i really only use de-en, apt-get install trans-de-en |
| 10:44.02 | oo_miguel | nkuttler: oh it seems the translate" |
| 10:44.09 | oo_miguel | nkuttler: oh it seems the "translate" programm uses this too |
| 10:44.23 | nkuttler | oo_miguel: yeah |
| 10:45.11 | jambajazz | most my translazytion mistakes are from being impatient |
| 10:46.19 | jambajazz | the bird can not fly through the tree |
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| 11:01.53 | jackbrown | I have a device on my lan 192.168.1.103 that show info about it's fucntionin, Is there a way to put it in trasparence and live on my desktop ? I mean as docklet or something like that |
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| 11:06.54 | jambajazz | whats the modprobe for secure)ttl |
| 11:07.12 | jambajazz | spa/knock |
| 11:07.23 | jambajazz | in kern |
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| 11:07.49 | jambajazz | ima idjiot |
| 11:08.27 | jambajazz | lsmod | grep something... what |
| 11:09.05 | abrotman | Do you need help with Debian? |
| 11:09.16 | jambajazz | insmod blackmagick |
| 11:09.22 | jambajazz | i dunno |
| 11:09.26 | jambajazz | yeah debs |
| 11:09.44 | jambajazz | the kerenel |
| 11:10.10 | jambajazz | spaztastic |
| 11:10.20 | jambajazz | I gonna modprobe up |
| 11:10.27 | abrotman | you have fun with that .. |
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| 11:10.43 | jambajazz | okay so the thing aint in the kernel then |
| 11:10.57 | jambajazz | got the msg |
| 11:11.02 | jambajazz | thnks |
| 11:11.05 | jambajazz | tks |
| 11:11.22 | abrotman | !enter |
| 11:11.22 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 11:11.58 | jambajazz | also thanks for yo9ur hyelp |
| 11:12.08 | jambajazz | bye |
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| 12:00.22 | abrotman | sysx1000: there's a kfreebsd channel on OFTC, might be more help |
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| 12:05.01 | yeboot | I mean, if I want to figure out which package would provide /usr/include/stdio.h, for example |
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| 12:12.48 | doudou | hi anti-snowden people working there |
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| 12:18.29 | dutchfish | yeboot, or dpkg -S /somedir/foo |
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| 12:28.26 | bearbin | Clang can't seem to find the libraries to compile MCS. I think I've installed them, but this happens: http://bronze.bearbin.net:8080/job/MCServer%20Linux%20x86/7/console |
| 12:28.29 | bearbin | Can abybody help? |
| 12:28.32 | bearbin | anybody* |
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| 12:37.21 | dutchfish | bearbin, at least some source libs seams to be missing like sqlite-dev, i dont which version, and some more stuff |
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| 12:38.38 | dutchfish | bearbin, same for libpolarssl-dev |
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| 12:41.27 | dutchfish | bearbin, and libtolua++5.1-dev if this is wheezy |
| 12:42.06 | valdyn | dutchfish: why are you saying this? i see only libgcc.a being incompatible |
| 12:42.28 | dutchfish | valdyn, i dont know which system he is on |
| 12:43.52 | dutchfish | valdyn, 4.6 seams to be stable for that |
| 12:44.55 | dutchfish | valdyn, if not stable, libtolua++ wont match prolly |
| 12:45.07 | valdyn | bearbin: you are building or trying to build for x86 but the build system ends up trying to link a x64 libgcc.a |
| 12:45.07 | dutchfish | valdyn, same goes for the other dev packages |
| 12:45.41 | dutchfish | valdyn, opps, overlooked that, you are right |
| 12:45.49 | dutchfish | valdyn, sorry |
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| 12:46.01 | dutchfish | valdyn, my mistake |
| 12:46.59 | valdyn | is clang even supported for this package? |
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| 13:00.28 | dutchfish | valdyn, https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/llvm-defaults-3.5.html |
| 13:00.55 | dutchfish | (sid) |
| 13:01.04 | _unreal_ | looking for some help. I want to connect to wifi using console commands. wicd is not finding wifi, but the computer says found wifi as it first boots into gui. |
| 13:01.23 | _unreal_ | 1404 lts, xfce |
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| 13:02.08 | bearbin | valdyn: Clang should be supported. Most of those libs you said should be installed are our own custom versions and so packaged with the source for MCS |
| 13:02.43 | bearbin | I'm not that great with building software, but I wanted to fix it being unable to find the 32 bit libgcc |
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| 13:03.10 | Behruz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:04.13 | _unreal_ | ooooo got it |
| 13:04.25 | dvs | !ask |
| 13:04.25 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 13:05.58 | Behruz | My debian 7 with kde starts very slow about 2 min |
| 13:06.32 | nkuttler | Behruz: that's not so bad.. |
| 13:06.47 | nkuttler | i mean, i boot in 13 seconds, but that's with an ssd and into xdm.. |
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| 13:07.40 | montyboy | Behruz: Did you have a different KDE experience in Debain 6? What are your system specs? |
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| 13:07.44 | Behruz | Really? It's because of kde and other pachages? |
| 13:07.54 | _unreal_ | o_o ohh I thought I was in ubuntu sorry, ugh my 5yo is motor mouthing me crazy |
| 13:07.55 | nkuttler | Behruz: don't you see any messages during boot? |
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| 13:08.47 | dutchfish | bearbin, is your debian system running stable aka wheezy? |
| 13:08.59 | dutchfish | bearbin, 64bit? |
| 13:09.04 | sysx1000 | no one knows how to use GELI on Debian/kFreeBSD |
| 13:09.15 | sysx1000 | seems like it is not implemented feature |
| 13:09.35 | Behruz | No much unusual! |
| 13:09.48 | dutchfish | bearbin, aptitude show gcc-4.6:i386 |
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| 13:10.15 | nkuttler | sysx1000: ask in #debian-kbsd on oftc |
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| 13:11.25 | bearbin | dutchfish: It's running stable |
| 13:12.36 | bearbin | dutchfish: http://paste.md-5.net/taqesinodo.avrasm |
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| 13:13.00 | Behruz | I don't have any problems with this but windows 7 runs way faster |
| 13:13.08 | dutchfish | bearbin, and you are compiling the 32bits version on your 64bit version system? (multi-arch) | then you prolly want gcc-4.6:i386 |
| 13:13.24 | valdyn | Behruz: let us know where exactly booting is spending much time |
| 13:14.04 | dutchfish | bearbin, or compile it for 64bit if possible |
| 13:14.10 | bearbin | dutchfish: Yes, I'm compiling 32 bits on a 64 bit system using clang (with the -m32 option) |
| 13:14.25 | bearbin | dutchfish: It's for a buildserver, so it has to be 32 bits. |
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| 13:14.46 | valdyn | bearbin: how do you know that clang even works for this ? |
| 13:14.51 | Behruz | From showin kde boot menu and after setting password it takes very much |
| 13:15.02 | bearbin | valdyn: What do you mean? |
| 13:15.12 | valdyn | Behruz: so that is not booting, but logging in |
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| 13:15.29 | valdyn | bearbin: compilers are not simply exchangable parts, you have to use a supported compiler |
| 13:15.48 | Behruz | Sip I'm stand corrected |
| 13:16.11 | bearbin | valdyn: Yes, clang works. Here is a working clang build: http://http://ci.bearbin.net/job/MCServer%20Linux-x86-64/ |
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| 13:16.29 | valdyn | bearbin: ok - so only cross compiling fails |
| 13:16.46 | valdyn | bearbin: and the reason for this seems to be that the build system uses the wrong ld program |
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| 13:17.18 | valdyn | bearbin: you see, /usr/bin/ld has to be the default system ld, but its probably the 64 bit binary |
| 13:18.09 | valdyn | bearbin: and /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/libgcc.a has to be the 64-bit version too |
| 13:18.32 | valdyn | bearbin: I cant help you fix the MCServer build system to work with debian multiarch |
| 13:19.06 | bearbin | The thing is it should work, and I got it working on my other buildserver. But I don't know how I got it working |
| 13:19.28 | valdyn | bearbin: is the other build system the same debian release and arch ? |
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| 13:20.30 | bearbin | It's the same arch, and it _was_ the same release (stable) but then I upgraded the other buildserver. |
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| 13:22.26 | aaron83 | hey i need declare in my samba4 connection to openfire only one group....declare in cn does not work..if i declare full dc=User doit ok..but i dont want all user get access to openfire account...any idea? |
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| 13:23.25 | valdyn | bearbin: probably involves installing something like gcc-4.6-multilib |
| 13:23.50 | aaron83 | cn="Users",dc="mydomain",dc="com" work fine but list all user of samba4.... |
| 13:24.01 | Behruz | Thanks valdyn |
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| 13:24.19 | aaron83 | cn="Jabber,"cn="Users",dc="mydomain",dc="com" is the ideal but does not list user in that group |
| 13:24.26 | valdyn | Behruz: i would compare the packages *gcc* between your build servers |
| 13:25.17 | Behruz | What? |
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| 13:25.27 | dutchfish | aaron83, you probably have to cast the right OU for that where you users life |
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| 13:25.45 | valdyn | Behruz: compare which packages containing gcc in their names you have installed |
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| 13:26.27 | Behruz | I can't get it.I'm so user |
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| 13:27.37 | Behruz | Gcc ?why gcc |
| 13:28.01 | valdyn | Behruz: because the error in your build log is about libgcc |
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| 13:28.38 | _unreal_ | any one big on networking? |
| 13:29.18 | _unreal_ | I am using a DSM-G600 its a NAS server but has built in wifi, I have it setup as an access point. but I seem to be only able to connect one device at a time via WIFI? |
| 13:29.41 | Behruz | So then? Still I've not got it. |
| 13:30.00 | bearbin | valdyn: How would I compare the GCC packages? |
| 13:30.05 | _unreal_ | now I was going threw the settings on it. and I noticed there is an area for channels, and its set to a channel but there is a checkbox that says auto select. could that effect multi devices being able to connect to the access point? |
| 13:30.13 | valdyn | bearbin: "dpkg -l | grep gcc" |
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| 13:31.38 | Behruz | I'm on my phone let's check it on my laptop then? |
| 13:32.19 | bearbin | valdyn: old: http://paste.md-5.net/vuwehixedi |
| 13:32.48 | bearbin | valdyn: New: http://paste.md-5.net/xowutabiju |
| 13:32.53 | dutchfish | _unreal_, probably not, the channel selection always uses 1 channel be it either fixed or automatic, however, your problem of connecting more devices is not related to the channel, but can be related if the choosen channel is allowed to share its connection. |
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| 13:33.33 | valdyn | bearbin: dont show me, now you just install the missing packages |
| 13:34.16 | _unreal_ | hum |
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| 13:36.13 | dutchfish | _unreal_, thats is if you have setup that device as an accespoint |
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| 13:37.39 | _unreal_ | I'll try enabling auto channel select as soon as this update is done. |
| 13:38.17 | _unreal_ | the one device that is connected to the AP is doing a massive update heh figure, and its an old single core computer naturally |
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| 13:53.51 | anikras | hello |
| 13:54.04 | anikras | i have a problem with plugin java in my chrome-stable |
| 13:54.56 | anikras | i had ln -s /opt/java/../amd64/libnpjp2.so /opt/google/chrome/plugins/ |
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| 13:55.09 | anikras | but it isn't working |
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| 13:57.50 | _unreal_ | enabling auto channel select fixed the issue. it switched to channel 10, and all the wifi devices just suddenly connected |
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| 13:59.05 | dutchfish | _unreal_, mm... weird tho ... i gues there was some other qrm on that channe; |
| 13:59.29 | dutchfish | _unreal_, good luck |
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| 14:39.32 | Nectur | How can i compare two files needed.list and available.list and only print lines that exist in needed.list but not in available.list? |
| 14:40.00 | Nectur | I cant seem to grasp grep yet |
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| 14:40.36 | Nectur | The syntax is diff then im used to |
| 14:40.40 | heurist | Nectur: try diff --left-column needed.list available.list |
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| 14:42.02 | Nectur | Ok |
| 14:42.27 | heurist | Nectur: see man diff for the details if that does not do what you want |
| 14:42.56 | Nectur | Okie tnx |
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| 14:47.24 | BCMM | got a laptop with a intel graphics here where i can change brightness with /sys/class/brightness, but kde can't change brightness. any ideas? |
| 14:47.49 | BCMM | also, how does kde actually set brightness? how do the permissions work? |
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| 14:51.29 | syntroPi | how would i pervent a package from ever being installed "blacklist"? i moved to systemd and on dist-upgrade it always wants to remove systemd-sysv and reinstall sysvinit which i dont want, hence looking for blacklisting sysvinit |
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| 14:53.06 | gravspeed | good morning |
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| 14:55.15 | gravspeed | i need to find a kernel module for an oddball kernel... |
| 14:55.34 | gravspeed | 3.8.7-yocto-standard (intel galileo) |
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| 14:56.13 | noc0lour | BCMM: afaik adjusting brightness is done with acpi_events. Try acpi_listen and push brightness up/down to see if the events are triggered |
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| 14:58.22 | gravspeed | i believe i may actually be the first person to try this, since i am the #1 google result with my post to intel... |
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| 14:59.49 | gravspeed | either that or i'm just searching for the totally wrong thing |
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| 15:01.01 | jhutchins | gravspeed: pciid? |
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| 15:01.27 | jhutchins | gravspeed: lspci -nn, post the 8086:xxxx id. |
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| 15:03.53 | BCMM | noc0lour: thanks, but i think i found the issue - there are 2 backlight drivers enabled and the x driver has chosen the one that does nothing |
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| 15:04.38 | noc0lour | BCMM: Great :) |
| 15:05.07 | gravspeed | pciid? |
| 15:05.21 | gravspeed | i am working on an intel galileo |
| 15:06.15 | gravspeed | the kernel is 3.8.7-yocto-standard, i have installed debian 7.6 on top of that |
| 15:06.43 | gravspeed | (debootstrap) |
| 15:07.33 | heurist | syntroPi: maybe look in apt-mark showauto | grep systemd to make sure they are not all "auto" installed. if so apt-mark manual systemd-sysv |
| 15:07.38 | jhutchins | gravspeed: lspci -nn, post the 8086:xxxx id. |
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| 15:09.06 | jhutchins | gravspeed: ok, sorry, different topic. |
| 15:09.56 | gravspeed | no worries man |
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| 15:10.19 | gravspeed | i actually did not have pciutils installed, so this might take a few minutes |
| 15:10.41 | gravspeed | actually that was pretty quick |
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| 15:11.21 | jhutchins | gravspeed: http://sourceforge.net/p/galileodebian/wiki/Home/ |
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| 15:11.49 | syntroPi | heurist, i did install systemd-sysv manually with "Yes, do as i say!" |
| 15:12.17 | gravspeed | jhutchins: yes, that's basically what i am using |
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| 15:12.48 | gravspeed | the process has changed a little for firmware 1.0.2 |
| 15:13.34 | heurist | syntroPi: maybe not the same thing, "auto" packages are ones that will be removed is nothing else depends on them (simplified) check those commands, you can also look in aptitude to see if it has an A in the third column |
| 15:13.39 | gravspeed | jhutchins: which line from lspci do you want? the |
| 15:14.03 | gravspeed | they all contain 8086 |
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| 15:15.45 | jhutchins | gravspeed: That's 'cause 8986 is "intel". |
| 15:15.59 | jhutchins | gravspeed: You said you were looking for a module for it? For which device? |
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| 15:16.09 | jhutchins | 8086 is intel. |
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| 15:16.36 | gravspeed | ps3 controller, sixaxis requires uinput, which apparently is not part of the yocto kernel |
| 15:16.55 | syntroPi | heurist, aptitude wants to remove systemd-sysv (red) |
| 15:17.35 | gravspeed | these things are weird, it's not an arduino, but it's not a full on linux box either... |
| 15:18.14 | jhutchins | Yeah, not an arm either. |
| 15:18.19 | heurist | syntroPi: what is the output of those commands? or aptitude versions ^systemd-sysv or select systemd-sysv in aptitude and press m |
| 15:18.28 | gravspeed | so i'm hoping that maybe this kernel is close enough to another that i could use the module from it, but i'm thinking i'm probably going to have to compile it myself, but i have no idea how |
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| 15:19.34 | gravspeed | this is the device (lsusb) Bus 001 Device 007: ID 054c:0268 Sony Corp. Batoh Device / PlayStation 3 Controller |
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| 15:21.04 | gravspeed | i was hoping that becasue it is i386 that this stuff would be all put together |
| 15:21.43 | syntroPi | heurist, its not listed in apt-mark showauto | grep systemd (libpam-systemd libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-id128-0 libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0) and aptitude versions ^systemd-sysv shows Package systemd-sysv: iB 44-11+deb7u4 stable 500 |
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| 15:24.27 | heurist | syntroPi: aptitude why systemd-sysv and aptitude why sysvinit sounds like you will have to resolve some conflicts |
| 15:28.00 | syntroPi | hmm the output of these make no sense to me (gpsd depends on netbase | systemd-sysv) while sysvinit it cant find a reason to install it (but suggest to replace systemd-sysv with sysvinit??? |
| 15:28.23 | syntroPi | this is a headless server without any gui (nor gps or kde) |
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| 15:29.42 | syntroPi | heurist, cant i just blacklist sysvinit and have peace? |
| 15:32.01 | heurist | syntroPi: apt-mark hold sysvinit might work, but something is wrong with your installation so you may have other problems (later) |
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| 15:33.52 | syntroPi | that will be ignored by apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:34.52 | syntroPi | all i did was enabling systemd according to https://wiki.debian.org/systemd |
| 15:36.35 | syntroPi | there is a section "sysvinit vs. systemd-sysv" telling "Upgrade to sysvinit ≥ 2.88dsf-44. " well but i do want systemd-sysv |
| 15:36.51 | zophy | hi |
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| 15:40.37 | gravspeed | so am i screwed or what? |
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| 15:47.41 | gravspeed | jhutchins: you still there? |
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| 15:52.05 | gravspeed | anyone ever had to compile kernel modules for oddball kernels? |
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| 15:55.59 | jhutchins | gravspeed: I know that it's possible to compile for a different architecture, so you could compile it on a regular PC, but that's the extent of my knowledge. |
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| 16:16.46 | _unreal_ | can any one help me with virtualGL and vnc? |
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| 16:19.52 | jhutchins | _unreal_: Why vnc? |
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| 16:20.34 | jhutchins | _unreal_: In linux there is almos always a better way to do something than vnc. |
| 16:22.34 | gravspeed | if you really need to access the gui of a linux system remotely i always liked xrdp |
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| 16:25.18 | _unreal_ | xrdp |
| 16:25.39 | _unreal_ | my rdp server computer is an ubuntu 14.04 I just got vncserver up and running |
| 16:26.19 | _unreal_ | has a few small flaws but its the image updating I'd like to do better with. |
| 16:26.19 | jhutchins | The only real use for rdp or vnc is administering Windows or Mac systems remotely. |
| 16:26.52 | _unreal_ | the tower I have is a super media server, tower grade case |
| 16:27.11 | _unreal_ | err super server tower |
| 16:27.47 | jhutchins | Well, if it's a tower case you'll want to do everything completely differently. |
| 16:27.55 | _unreal_ | 40TB hd storage etc.... the drives are there but non are plugged in currently |
| 16:27.56 | _unreal_ | ? |
| 16:28.14 | _unreal_ | do tell |
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| 16:28.54 | gravspeed | the uses are few and far between for sure... i have an xrdp system that is multihomed into the vrfs that host my ubiquiti long range wireless euipment, i use it to access the webguis on those antenna's |
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| 16:29.30 | _unreal_ | hum |
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| 16:30.00 | gravspeed | _unreal_: what're using this thing for anyway? |
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| 16:30.28 | _unreal_ | the setup I have is an AMD 3400+, 3gb ram, 40TB hd storage, its a MEDIA server for the home network, mainly for the livingroom media pcd |
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| 16:30.30 | _unreal_ | pc |
| 16:30.52 | gravspeed | so... file services or something like plex? |
| 16:31.00 | _unreal_ | exactly |
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| 16:31.38 | gravspeed | so is it going to be connected to your tv/projector? |
| 16:31.44 | _unreal_ | I just got the last 2 major issues fixed, needing a RDP of any kind. and the biggest pain in the rear was getting the broadcom wifi working |
| 16:31.49 | _unreal_ | no |
| 16:31.58 | _unreal_ | its nothing but a server source |
| 16:32.29 | gravspeed | then administer it with ssh |
| 16:32.33 | gravspeed | or maybe webmin |
| 16:33.14 | _unreal_ | http://www.overclockers.com/berins-case-mods/ this is the tower though its now dual PSU and a lot of other changes. this is a very very old post |
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| 16:33.46 | _unreal_ | I thinkI posted that in ? 2001? |
| 16:34.25 | _unreal_ | http://www.overclockers.com/wp-content/uploads/images/stories/articles/Berin_s_Case_Mods/dcp_0008.jpg there are now 3 HD holders at the bottom instead of 2 |
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| 16:34.46 | gravspeed | gui's are overrated, probably 90% of the systems i administer i have never seen the gui, if one even exists |
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| 16:35.54 | _unreal_ | I only have the gui installed on it for some media support i MAY need.. other wise its a system that the gui is never loaded |
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| 16:36.56 | gravspeed | if you don't have a display attached why does it need media support? |
| 16:37.35 | gravspeed | if it's just file services your media center will do that, if it's something like plex it can run off a nas that doesn't even have a display connection.... |
| 16:37.44 | gravspeed | maybe i'm not understanding what you are trying to do |
| 16:38.09 | jhutchins | !webmin |
| 16:38.10 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
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| 16:38.58 | _unreal_ | plex is already installed on it as well |
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| 16:39.44 | _unreal_ | media transcoding etc..... |
| 16:39.45 | gravspeed | dpkg: absolutly true, it sounds like he is using this inside his house so i think security isn't the highest concern, i use webmin on my dns servers because bind configs can be a pain in the ass, but it is only available on a non-routable managment subnet |
| 16:39.46 | dpkg | gravspeed: what are you talking about? |
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| 16:40.33 | heurist | gravspeed: you talking to the bots? |
| 16:40.35 | gravspeed | _unreal_: you don't need to be able to see the video to transcode it |
| 16:40.49 | _unreal_ | i know as I said the gui is never loaded |
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| 16:41.24 | _unreal_ | but the server will need to do transcoding for devices like xbox360 |
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| 16:41.44 | gravspeed | ok, make sure your codecs are installed |
| 16:41.45 | _unreal_ | its fast enough for DVD quality media. |
| 16:41.57 | jhutchins | _unreal_: So mediatomb, which has a web interface anyway. |
| 16:42.10 | _unreal_ | ya.... I'm slowly learning |
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| 16:42.24 | _unreal_ | i'm not sure if mediatomb is installed on it or not |
| 16:42.25 | jhutchins | _unreal_: Nothing you've said so far justifies a VNC/RDP setup. |
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| 16:42.58 | _unreal_ | desire |
| 16:43.00 | _unreal_ | :) |
| 16:43.26 | gravspeed | i'm going to agree here, you would just be adding overhead, and if you are trancoding 1080p you're going to want as much available as you can get, especially if you are going to be streaming to multiple devices |
| 16:43.54 | _unreal_ | its not capable of 1080p transcoding |
| 16:44.02 | _unreal_ | at least not live streaming |
| 16:44.28 | _unreal_ | there mediatomb has been installed as well |
| 16:45.57 | _unreal_ | if I was to upgrade the motherboard what would you guys suggest? it just has to handle my sata expansion cards |
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| 16:46.44 | _unreal_ | got a 16 and an 8 sata expansion card. flipping $ for the 16 |
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| 16:48.16 | _unreal_ | but lets say I wanted to have at least 3 1080p streams. gig ethernet will handle that but if there is any media transcoding I dont know what kind of cpu support I may need? |
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| 16:51.13 | gravspeed | quick google fu tells me this... http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?s=dc2624b14567d99417c6465570bc005f&p=35258731&postcount=12 |
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| 16:54.29 | _unreal_ | hum, I do have an unused core2quad 6600 if mem serves |
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| 16:56.52 | _unreal_ | the only reason I didnt use that motherboard was because it only has one pcie slot |
| 16:57.15 | _unreal_ | well 2 video and a 4x but there is no onboard vga |
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| 16:58.59 | icanhasiphone | ##fuck-metaleer is very good new channel for chat please enter :) |
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| 16:59.12 | icanhasiphone | ##fuck-metaleer is very good new channel for chat please enter :)) |
| 16:59.14 | icanhasiphone | ##fuck-metaleer is very good new channel for chat please enter :)))) |
| 16:59.16 | icanhasiphone | ##fuck-metaleer is very good new channel for chat please enter :))))))) |
| 16:59.18 | icanhasiphone | ##fuck-metaleer is very good new channel for chat please enter :))))))))) |
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| 17:14.27 | _Will | Hey, I could use some help setting up an FTP server |
| 17:14.32 | _Will | I am apparently retarded |
| 17:15.01 | nkuttler | _Will: nah, ftp just sucks |
| 17:15.08 | _Will | better ideas? |
| 17:15.20 | nkuttler | scp |
| 17:15.23 | _Will | I want to be able to upload from windows to will.apoda.ca/data |
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| 17:15.34 | _Will | Is there good windows SCP client? |
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| 17:15.59 | nkuttler | _Will: there is one, yes. i don't use windows though |
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| 17:16.42 | gravspeed | winscp |
| 17:16.53 | _Will | what do I have to do to set it up on the Debian side? |
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| 17:17.09 | gravspeed | nothing, scp is part of modern ssh (most of the time) |
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| 17:17.30 | _Will | k |
| 17:17.32 | nkuttler | _Will: if you have ssh, nothing |
| 17:17.39 | rio14 | hello. i helped a friend migrate to gnu/linux and installed debian. everything went well for several months. but now all of a sudden it stopped working (after turn on it does not load). computer was under routine use (web, word processor, etc...). nothing was done out of the ordinary routine (no changes, no added software,...) . i dont have computer at hand but need to find a quick solution for my friend or i'll be in |
| 17:17.52 | phy1729 | note: sftp can be better locked down (sftp is not related to ftp or ftps) |
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| 17:18.00 | _Will | thanks :D I'll be back with results |
| 17:18.10 | _Will | honestly don't care about security on this |
| 17:18.14 | _Will | is a VPS |
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| 17:18.28 | _Will | if get hacked I just click a button to reinstall the OS |
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| 17:18.39 | gravspeed | you should defianlty be concerned with security on a vps |
| 17:18.41 | nkuttler | rio14: could be hardware failure |
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| 17:18.53 | nkuttler | _Will: yeah, your hoster cares |
| 17:19.03 | _Will | gravspeed: how so? |
| 17:19.08 | gravspeed | most of them will charge for traffic, if you get hacked it could co$t you |
| 17:19.10 | nkuttler | _Will: and the police might, once people start downloading child porn from your box |
| 17:19.10 | rio14 | nkuttler: thank you. can anything be done? |
| 17:19.20 | nkuttler | rio14: forensics |
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| 17:19.48 | _Will | my plan just shuts it down if too much traffic |
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| 17:20.15 | _Will | you're right though, I'm not going to have it be an open anon upload |
| 17:20.40 | rio14 | nkuttler: "could be" means it's not sure though ? if it's not hardware failure, then what? |
| 17:21.00 | _Will | take the HDD/SSD out and put it into another PC |
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| 17:21.05 | gravspeed | just make sure you are using the latest versions, following best practices and run some iptables and fail2ban, good securioty is not hard, you just have to think about it |
| 17:21.11 | nkuttler | rio14: "after turn on it does not load" is meaningless |
| 17:21.29 | nkuttler | rio14: maybe he has a power outage. who knows.. |
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| 17:21.53 | _Will | nkuttler: but it's wireless!!! |
| 17:22.09 | rio14 | nkuttler: did you see screenshot? |
| 17:22.16 | nkuttler | screenshot? |
| 17:22.27 | petemc | rio14: your text was cutoff mid sentence |
| 17:22.30 | rio14 | nkuttler: the link i put |
| 17:22.33 | nkuttler | rio14: there was no link |
| 17:22.38 | _Will | you hit max chars |
| 17:23.00 | nkuttler | rio14: also, just focus on the problem, and don't tell us the entire story around it |
| 17:23.13 | rio14 | hello. i helped a friend migrate to gnu/linux and installed debian. everything went well for several months. but now all of a sudden it stopped working (after turn on it does not load). computer was under routine use (web, word processor, etc...). nothing was done out of the ordinary routine (no changes, no added software,...) . |
| 17:23.24 | rio14 | i dont have computer at hand but need to find a quick solution for my friend or i'll be in a bit of trouble. please help me. what's the problem? here is a link to screenshot: http://s14.postimg.org/o9vau8e81/image.jpg |
| 17:23.50 | _Will | that's not "turn on and does not load" |
| 17:23.50 | nkuttler | rio14: yeah, hd is dead |
| 17:23.53 | _Will | >:( |
| 17:24.00 | centrx | rio14, That loks like a hardware error |
| 17:24.02 | _Will | that's "Turn on and shits itself" |
| 17:24.10 | nkuttler | rio14: it says right there i/o error |
| 17:24.20 | _Will | dev/sda even |
| 17:24.35 | rio14 | sorry i am a beginner :) |
| 17:24.44 | nkuttler | rio14: no problem |
| 17:24.45 | _Will | basically it says "I cannot read the hard drive" |
| 17:24.59 | heurist | rio14: yep, drive is dead, but check cables first. |
| 17:25.06 | jhutchins | rio14: Sounds like disk failure. |
| 17:25.28 | _Will | do you have access to a live cd/usb? |
| 17:25.56 | rio14 | i do, but my friend no (my friend is far away) |
| 17:26.21 | _Will | then you might be SOL :( |
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| 17:26.40 | rio14 | SOL means? |
| 17:26.45 | _Will | Shit outta luck |
| 17:26.53 | rio14 | :) |
| 17:27.05 | heurist | _Will: please try to keep the language polite. |
| 17:27.13 | _Will | :P |
| 17:27.18 | _Will | he asked |
| 17:27.34 | rio14 | i just feel my friend will be disappointed at me and at gnu/linux if i dont solve the thing quickly |
| 17:27.51 | jhutchins | rio14: You should be able to check the filesystems either from a live CD or by using shutdown -Fr now - not sure if that will work from busybox or if you have enough left of the system to save it. |
| 17:28.02 | rio14 | yes, i asked |
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| 17:28.07 | _Will | Tell him to unplug the HDD and replug it in |
| 17:28.07 | heurist | rio14: linux did not kill the drive, hardware fails. |
| 17:28.27 | jhutchins | rio14: If there was nothing like a power outage, the drive is failing. You might recover it but it will probably fail again soon. |
| 17:28.28 | rio14 | yes but you know how beginners think.... |
| 17:28.54 | _Will | WinSCP works |
| 17:28.58 | _Will | <3 you guys |
| 17:29.01 | jhutchins | rio14: If there was a system crash or something that damaged the filesystem you might recover it, but you should run diagnostics to see if the drive is healthy. |
| 17:29.19 | jhutchins | rio14: There's really not much help we can give you if you're not able to work with the system live. |
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| 17:29.47 | jhutchins | rio14: Does the person have windows on the system too? |
| 17:29.53 | rio14 | could you please give me an easy step by step procedure to tackle the issue? |
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| 17:30.06 | rio14 | no windows, i replaced it |
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| 17:30.22 | _Will | rio14: the issue is that we can't really do that w/o access to a live OS |
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| 17:30.44 | jhutchins | It's strange that it's saying /root rather than / |
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| 17:30.47 | _Will | THat's what we use LiveCDs for |
| 17:30.58 | rio14 | ok so i will express-mail a live-os cd to my friend and then what ? |
| 17:31.13 | nkuttler | rio14: probably better to mail him a new hd.. |
| 17:31.15 | _Will | your friend doesn't have access to a library? |
| 17:31.30 | _Will | is he on ISS? |
| 17:31.33 | _Will | or moon? |
| 17:31.37 | nkuttler | rio14: but it could also be the cables, or something else. but hd most likely |
| 17:31.39 | _Will | or submarine? |
| 17:31.39 | rodrigc | I'm interested in creating a Debian package. I've read a few docs, but am wondering is there a quickstart guide which is the best place to start from? |
| 17:32.02 | rio14 | yes but my friend is more beginner than me. say i am beginner and my friend is superbeginner. |
| 17:32.18 | nkuttler | rio14: there are linux user groups everywhere on the planet |
| 17:32.23 | rio14 | :) |
| 17:32.33 | nkuttler | rio14: have him go to a local meeting |
| 17:32.44 | _Will | Where is friend? not like specific, but city? |
| 17:33.09 | jhutchins | rio14: So you want to be able to give your friend instructions and have the friend fix the problem? |
| 17:33.34 | rio14 | no city, little town in africa |
| 17:33.56 | jhutchins | rio14: What about the possibility of shipping the system to you? |
| 17:33.58 | nkuttler | rio14: i'd install debian on a new hd, and mail him that |
| 17:34.09 | jhutchins | nkuttler: Good idea! |
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| 17:34.52 | nkuttler | but i'm betting on the hd being broken, and nothing else ;) |
| 17:35.08 | nkuttler | but africa, heat, spinning disks... sounds legit |
| 17:35.25 | _Will | maybe opt for hybrid or ssd? |
| 17:35.30 | rio14 | but we do not have certainty of this if i understood well, right? |
| 17:35.52 | nkuttler | rio14: i'd say high probability |
| 17:36.04 | rio14 | could you tell me what lines indicate the problem? |
| 17:36.04 | nkuttler | personally, i never had a cable or controller fail.. |
| 17:36.12 | nkuttler | rio14: i/o error |
| 17:36.26 | heurist | rio14: have them unplug and replug the cables if that does not help replace the cable, if that does not do it then is is the drive that is dead |
| 17:36.29 | rio14 | so why is it not sure? |
| 17:36.53 | _Will | New question: Anybody know how to SCP on android? (Nexus 7) |
| 17:37.17 | nkuttler | _Will: people in #android? |
| 17:37.26 | heurist | _Will: there are plenty of ssh apps for android |
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| 17:37.44 | rio14 | heurist: sorry which cables you mean? |
| 17:37.57 | heurist | rio14: hard drive cables |
| 17:38.10 | rio14 | so laptop must be opened? |
| 17:38.25 | heurist | rio14: it is a hardware problem so yes, you will need to go inside |
| 17:38.28 | nkuttler | rio14: yeah. unplug hd, plug in |
| 17:38.41 | nkuttler | rio14: i doubt there even is a cable though |
| 17:38.42 | rio14 | but is it something a superbeginner can do? |
| 17:38.52 | heurist | rio14: with a laptop there might not be "cables" but still unplug the drive |
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| 17:39.03 | _Will | Should be like 3 screws |
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| 17:39.27 | _Will | and 2 plugs that HAVE to be plugged in a certain way (are shaped like Ls) |
| 17:39.32 | _Will | is not difficult |
| 17:39.50 | heurist | rio14: again, this is a hardware problem, a linux noob might be a electronics guru. But I would have them take it to a shop for repair. |
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| 17:40.20 | rio14 | is the data safe? |
| 17:40.55 | nkuttler | rio14: unlikely |
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| 17:42.19 | jhutchins | _Will: #android has 800+ users, should be helpful. I'm sure there's an ap for it. |
| 17:42.40 | rio14 | so you mean there is a good chance my friend lost anything not backupped? |
| 17:42.51 | jhutchins | rio14: No, data is not safe. Drive has already failed. If your friend wanted the data safe they should have made backups. |
| 17:43.03 | heurist | rio14: yes, that is why we back up |
| 17:43.40 | nkuttler | rio14: disks die all the time |
| 17:44.01 | jhutchins | rio14: There is an app called photorec that might be able to recover things, or you might succeed in getting the drive mountable and be able to recover some of it that way. |
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| 17:45.20 | rio14 | i am thinking how can i make a superbeginner understand that this has nothing to do with the migration i did..... this will be the hard part... |
| 17:45.43 | rio14 | but ok, thank you all for the help |
| 17:45.59 | heurist | rio14: ddrescue can also make an image of the dive that you run photorec on so you do not risk losing more while you work, but this is *not* beginner stuff. |
| 17:46.00 | jhutchins | rio14: The reason we're fairly certain it's a hardware problem is that unlike Windows, Linux doen't just spontaneously fail, and the screenshot you posted indicates a serious problem with the filesystem. |
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| 17:46.21 | jhutchins | rio14: The only way that happens for a normal system in normal use is hardware failure. The software is pretty solid. |
| 17:46.26 | Jolein | hi everyone |
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| 17:46.55 | Jolein | i wonder if anyone could help me with a sound isue, google is not of any help |
| 17:46.57 | heurist | jhutchins: those ata errors are not fs related, the pertain to hardware |
| 17:46.59 | jhutchins | rio14: One way would be do run diagnostics on the disk and confirm that it failed, not the software. |
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| 17:47.13 | jhutchins | heurist: Yep. |
| 17:47.24 | rio14 | ok |
| 17:47.34 | rio14 | i will save this chat for later reference |
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| 17:48.25 | Jolein | problem i am having : squeeky audio in some video files not all, not in browser and not with mp3 or flac |
| 17:48.27 | rio14 | and one (far) day i will be an expert like you guys :) |
| 17:48.28 | nkuttler | rio14: the ideal scenario would be to remove the hd and put it into another computer for testing |
| 17:48.36 | jhutchins | rio14: One thing for sure, this would be just as bad if not worse with windows. |
| 17:48.59 | _Will | jhutchins really doesn't like windows |
| 17:49.02 | jhutchins | Jolein: What player? |
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| 17:49.16 | spectr | Hello, people ! :) |
| 17:49.22 | Jolein | both VLC and movie player |
| 17:49.23 | rio14 | i suppose this is a test for our friendship :) |
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| 17:49.41 | _Will | hi spectr |
| 17:49.41 | nkuttler | rio14: that's also why you never do computer support for friends |
| 17:49.45 | centrx | Hard disks die all the time. Friendship is forever |
| 17:49.51 | jhutchins | Jolein: mplayer is my standard reference. If it doesn't play them right it's the files. |
| 17:49.54 | heurist | Jolein: and in windows or something the audio is fine? what do you mean "squeaky"? |
| 17:50.31 | Jolein | high pitch noise (but only with high sounds, low sounds are fine) |
| 17:50.34 | spectr | How are you ? ;] |
| 17:50.34 | rio14 | but i thought the community is happy for people like me that go around installing gnu/linux to people.... |
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| 17:50.48 | Jolein | and yes heurist windows plays them fine |
| 17:51.11 | spectr | Maybe some of you have some interesting thoughts about talking within shell ? |
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| 17:51.31 | spectr | For example : there is 1 ssh server, 2 local users. We want to chat within ssh |
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| 17:51.41 | wallbroken | hi |
| 17:51.44 | spectr | I know write, talk |
| 17:51.46 | heurist | spectr: use irc |
| 17:51.47 | rio14 | centrx: yes, true friendship is forever.... |
| 17:51.48 | nkuttler | spectr: man wall |
| 17:51.50 | wallbroken | i have problem with "alt gr" key |
| 17:51.56 | wallbroken | it doesn't work on debian |
| 17:52.03 | spectr | heurist - not an option |
| 17:52.11 | Jolein | nobody has any idea ? |
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| 17:52.19 | spectr | nkuttler, wall is like for everyone within ssh |
| 17:52.22 | nkuttler | spectr: man talk even |
| 17:52.31 | rio14 | thanks all again, bye |
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| 17:52.42 | nkuttler | spectr: yes |
| 17:52.47 | spectr | Yea, whats what I'm using at the moment |
| 17:52.55 | nkuttler | spectr: why is it not good enough? |
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| 17:53.25 | spectr | it shows no names, no datestamps |
| 17:53.37 | spectr | if another user presses "enter" |
| 17:53.43 | spectr | it jumps over the text |
| 17:53.47 | nkuttler | sounds like you want irc |
| 17:53.49 | spectr | if you know what i mean |
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| 17:53.59 | spectr | Yes, thats exactly what Im thinking |
| 17:54.17 | jhutchins | spectr: Yes, it sounds like you want to run an irc server and use something like irssi for clients. |
| 17:54.21 | spectr | Oh, man... |
| 17:54.23 | heurist | spectr: set up a xmpp server and user a terminal client, options abound. |
| 17:54.37 | spectr | You mean run irc server in local server and listen only to local connections ??? |
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| 17:55.10 | spectr | then connect to ssh and connect with irssi to irc server ? :) |
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| 17:55.27 | heurist | spectr: small irc servers are not hard, especially if you do not need services |
| 17:56.09 | spectr | Which one you would recommend ? |
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| 17:59.00 | heurist | spectr: I have used inspircd, but there are options: aptitude search "?and(~Gnetwork::server, ~Gprotocol::irc)" |
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| 18:03.48 | spectr | heurist, what do you think about running inspircd only locally ? |
| 18:04.02 | spectr | so this goes like this : |
| 18:04.21 | heurist | spectr: yes, that is what we are talking about doing? |
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| 18:04.37 | spectr | user -connects to ssh---> ssh ---user with irssi connects(locally)----> ircd server |
| 18:04.40 | spectr | is this possible ? |
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| 18:06.01 | gribouille | hi |
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| 18:06.21 | heurist | spectr: yes. they can connect to localhost, or some lan IP, you can bind or firewall the server so only those you want can connect. you can even run irssi/weechat in automatically on login and have it auto connect. |
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| 18:06.37 | spectr | Nice. |
| 18:06.37 | gribouille | I need to run jessie on top of wheezy. what is the most efficient solution? |
| 18:06.50 | heurist | gribouille: lxc |
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| 18:10.54 | gribouille | heurist, is it hard to use? |
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| 18:12.04 | somiaj | gribouille: what do you need to do with jessie? chroots are quite easy to make and can be run on top of wheezy. If you need more security than a chroot (anyone with root access can easily break out of the jail) then something more sophisicated like containers may be better |
| 18:12.25 | somiaj | you can also run it in a virtual machine, the option depends a lot on what it is you are wanting to do |
| 18:13.33 | heurist | gribouille: "hard" is relative. but not really, lxc is a bit "safer" then chroots and also a bit easier to manage, kvm is even safer and as easy but much less efficient. |
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| 18:14.15 | gribouille | somiaj, I have installed wheezy, but I need to run a script that I developed on jessie and that doesn't run on wheezy |
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| 18:17.24 | gribouille | can I use chroot for this purpose? |
| 18:17.24 | somiaj | gribouille: well you have various options. If you aren't worried about the security issues with chroot, you can 1) use debootstrap to create a jessie chroot. 2) mount --bind any thing you may need like /proc, /sys, /dev, /home into the chroot 3) chroot into the location 4) install the software you need and run the script. |
| 18:18.12 | somiaj | I don't know much about lxc or what is needed. I thought you needed a special linux kernel for that, but maybe that is no longer the case. It has been a while since I have looked into lxc at all |
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| 18:19.14 | heurist | somiaj: no more, all in standard. lxc is just chroot on steroids, it is very much like the bsd jails (that is a lie, but one that helps). |
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| 18:20.08 | somiaj | heurist: maybe I'll play with one oneday, I mainly use chroots out of habbit and the fact there is nothing I'm worried about securtiy on (I doint' actually run services or users in them) |
| 18:20.21 | somiaj | they just make nice clean enviorments to build packages |
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| 18:22.11 | heurist | gribouille: depends what the script needs from jessie. start with a chroot, if that does not work move to lxc, if that does not work move to kvm. they each take you further from the host OS so solve more "need jessie" problems but add overhead. |
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| 18:24.20 | sand3r | hi |
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| 18:24.49 | sand3r | is there any good app for linux, like msn messanger, icq? |
| 18:24.58 | w00tw00t | try pidgin |
| 18:25.07 | sand3r | w00tw00t thanks :) |
| 18:25.11 | sand3r | you like pidgin? |
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| 18:26.17 | w00tw00t | just a quick Q, seems like I'm worthless at google-fu. When booting, it seems like I have to add "rootdelay=10" (pressing "E" when booting at grub). How do I makes these changes permanent after successfully booting? |
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| 18:28.35 | nkuttler | w00tw00t: /etc/default/grub |
| 18:28.44 | nkuttler | w00tw00t: and run update-grub |
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| 18:30.11 | sand3r | w00tw00t do you know any protocol with encryption? |
| 18:30.26 | sand3r | i dont like msn |
| 18:30.32 | w00tw00t | But I'm confused, in /boot/grub/grub.cfg I find the line I want to edit --> "linux /vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/scar-root ro quiet", there I want to add "rootdelay=10" |
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| 18:30.52 | w00tw00t | nkuttler: what am I supposed to edit/add in /etc/default/grub ? |
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| 18:31.29 | autochthon | I would like to read the library manual. I type: man 3 printf --> No manual entry for printf in section 3 |
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| 18:33.41 | heurist | sand3r: if you like irc you can look at bitlbee |
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| 18:34.04 | sand3r | heurist thanks |
| 18:35.16 | w00tw00t | nkuttler: thanks, solved it :) |
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| 18:39.59 | gribouille | I've just run debootstrap jessie jessie-root http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/. can I use the new system, or do I have to bind some directories of the host system? |
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| 19:26.00 | heurist | SanchoPensa: scp? |
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| 19:26.52 | SanchoPensa | yes heurist, thanks alot! :) |
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| 19:39.07 | wallbroken | guys, i have a real problem: "alt+gr" keyboard key is not working with debian virtual machine |
| 19:39.26 | wallbroken | and i cannot use a lot of characters, like @#... and so many |
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| 19:40.36 | nkuttler | wallbroken: start by running xev, and see what happens when you hit altgr |
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| 19:42.14 | wallbroken | nkuttler, xev is not on my repository |
| 19:42.27 | nkuttler | wallbroken: install x11-utils |
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| 19:43.21 | wallbroken | nkuttler, i'm not under x11 |
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| 19:43.30 | wallbroken | i use debian without graphic server |
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| 19:46.03 | nkuttler | wallbroken: showkey |
| 19:46.25 | wallbroken | nkuttler |
| 19:46.26 | wallbroken | ok |
| 19:46.28 | wallbroken | done |
| 19:46.38 | wallbroken | 0x1d 0x64 |
| 19:46.44 | wallbroken | 0x92 0xe4 |
| 19:46.59 | wallbroken | i get these combination when pessing "alt+gr" |
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| 19:47.49 | nkuttler | wallbroken: well, you'll have to find out more on your own from here. e.g. what those codes mean, and how to remap your console keymap |
| 19:48.49 | wallbroken | /etc/default/keyboard |
| 19:48.57 | wallbroken | maybe can do something editing this file? |
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| 19:49.17 | nkuttler | wallbroken: no idea. never had to mess with the console keymap |
| 19:49.31 | nkuttler | but man 5 keyboard, like it says |
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| 19:49.55 | nkuttler | yeah, the options look like they might give you some flexibility |
| 19:50.07 | nkuttler | wallbroken: but really, you should probably fix your virtualization software.. |
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| 19:50.35 | nkuttler | wallbroken: altgr not working sounds like a faq level thing to me |
| 19:50.39 | wallbroken | nkuttler, you think is a virtulization software problem? |
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| 19:50.54 | wallbroken | it works, in the sense of debian recognize it |
| 19:51.01 | nkuttler | wallbroken: well, it's a guess |
| 19:51.18 | nkuttler | wallbroken: but debian will get whatever keycodes the virt stuff passes through |
| 19:52.03 | _unreal_ | any one ever tried to install a drawing tablet? I got one of these bamboo tablets and I cant get it to work |
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| 19:59.48 | CyberGabber | _unreal_: It tryed for al long time, but gave up. Bamboo Model CTH-470. My distribution = 10.04 Lucid |
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| 20:00.57 | _unreal_ | I'm prob going to return the POS then |
| 20:01.10 | _unreal_ | cth-300 |
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| 20:02.42 | CyberGabber | _unreal_: I saved this link al long time ago, read this, maybe it will help you. |
| 20:02.53 | CyberGabber | http://frankgroeneveld.nl/2010/04/11/get-wacom-bamboo-fun-pen-working-in-ubuntu-lucid/ |
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| 20:06.20 | _unreal_ | thanks for the link but thats for debian. the computer I need it on is this one that is a fedora computer |
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| 20:17.53 | heurist | _unreal_: you know you are in #debian right? |
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| 20:19.22 | pagios | hi all , i want to run this as soon as my system reboots: /sbin/iw phy phy0 interface add wlan5-sta type managed |
| 20:19.37 | pagios | where should i include it? /etc/rc.local no good @reboot crontba no good |
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| 20:22.44 | heurist | pagios: why do those not work? /etc/rc.local is the logical place to run something during boot if you do not want to make a whole init script for it. |
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| 20:27.18 | bravvve | hi,i get some problem to run squirrelmail ,i get error the config/config.dph does not exist |
| 20:27.36 | nkuttler | bravvve: have you checked /usr/share/doc/squirrelmail* ? |
| 20:28.14 | bravvve | nkuttler:yes |
| 20:28.41 | nkuttler | bravvve: no mention how to create that file? |
| 20:29.05 | bravvve | yes with conf.pl |
| 20:29.11 | nkuttler | have you done that? |
| 20:29.22 | bravvve | nkuttler:yes |
| 20:29.36 | nkuttler | bravvve: sounds like you didn't put it in the right location then? |
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| 20:30.19 | valdyn | pagios: this should be in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:30.34 | pagios | valdyn: what should be there? |
| 20:30.55 | valdyn | pagios: /sbin/iw phy phy0 ... |
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| 20:30.55 | pagios | /sbin/iw phy phy0 interface add wlan5-sta type managed in /etc/network/interfces valdyn ? |
| 20:31.09 | heurist | pagios: check man interfaces look for pre-up post-up commands |
| 20:31.11 | pagios | are you ure? |
| 20:31.11 | bravvve | nkuttler:i'v changed the index.php to get to login.php,i got black screan |
| 20:31.21 | nkuttler | bravvve: i don't use webmail, sorry |
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| 20:31.56 | bravvve | nkuttler:is there better choise |
| 20:33.28 | nkuttler | bravvve: well, better is something personal. i like mutt |
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| 20:34.17 | pagios | valdyn: are you sure? |
| 20:34.24 | valdyn | pagios: yes |
| 20:34.36 | pagios | why not in /etc/rc.local? |
| 20:34.41 | pagios | maybe coz its too early? |
| 20:35.01 | valdyn | pagios: because the command clearly depends on a network interface, not on a boot order |
| 20:35.41 | valdyn | pagios: and dependency based initialisation is clearly superior to a predetermined order |
| 20:35.43 | pagios | valdyn: even include the dhclient in that pre-script? |
| 20:36.06 | heurist | pagios: why do you want to split the configuration for you interfaces up and run commands "manually"? put the configuration for your network interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:36.37 | valdyn | pagios: you only need to use the commands themselves where theres no direct support in interfaces |
| 20:36.54 | valdyn | pagios: dhcp client is directly supported |
| 20:36.59 | pagios | valdyn: i need to assign dhcp address to that virtually created interface |
| 20:37.36 | bravvve | nkuttler:for me,can use it,but for the other users at the office,i don't think so,and they have windows |
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| 20:38.03 | nkuttler | bravvve: well, i would offer imap/pop first |
| 20:38.05 | pagios | valdyn: so possible to include a dhclient script in @reboot? |
| 20:38.13 | valdyn | pagios: thats wrong |
| 20:38.22 | valdyn | pagios: this is done in the interfaces file |
| 20:38.24 | nkuttler | pagios: < valdyn> pagios: this should be in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:38.31 | nkuttler | pagios: see also man 5 interfaces |
| 20:38.35 | bravvve | nkuttler:am using dovecot |
| 20:38.40 | nkuttler | bravvve: nice |
| 20:38.45 | valdyn | pagios: of course you can use various worse methods |
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| 20:39.19 | pagios | valdyn: so if i use a pre script to create the virtual itnerface i can follow that with a auto virtual-interface auto? |
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| 20:39.42 | valdyn | pagios: i guess in your case the iw command can be in the pre-up stanza and after that its just a regular interface |
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| 20:40.35 | valdyn | pagios: that was confusing, i cant answer yes or no to that |
| 20:41.09 | WinCaptain_ | Hello, I want to merge together my windows 8 laptop with my jessie pc. I hardly know what I'm talking about, but I want it so that I can do stuff on my pc without getting up, right from my laptop just as if I was sitting at the pc. |
| 20:41.18 | pagios | valdyn: pre-up /root/hiper_scripts/virtual.sh auto rename4 iface rename4 inet dhcp |
| 20:41.26 | pagios | cool enough? |
| 20:41.33 | pagios | rename4 is the virtual itnerface created by the script |
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| 20:42.17 | valdyn | pagios: that of course cannot work |
| 20:42.37 | valdyn | pagios: one interface definition start with "iface" |
| 20:42.44 | valdyn | pagios: read the manpage |
| 20:43.03 | pagios | i have an iface ^ |
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| 20:43.36 | valdyn | pagios: and your system will sort your one-liner till the syntax is ok? |
| 20:44.01 | pagios | you mean iface betofe the auto ? |
| 20:44.17 | valdyn | pagios: auto is not even part of the interface definition |
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| 20:44.35 | valdyn | pagios: i cannot explain the syntax to you in irc, thats why theres a manpage |
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| 20:46.44 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: you can use putty (from windows 8) to log into your pc |
| 20:47.02 | WinCaptain_ | Isn't that console only? |
| 20:47.37 | WinCaptain_ | I want to have like a window that I can pull up containing my linux desktop. |
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| 20:47.40 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: the name would be terminal, but yes of course |
| 20:47.47 | pagios | valdyn: ok so the virtual interface is showin on reboot now, the pre-script is initializing it, but i am not able to connec to a wpa_supplicatn with itCould not set interface rename4 flags: Name not unique on network |
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| 20:48.20 | WinCaptain_ | valdyn, right, but suppose I want to have a window that I can pull up that's like virtualbox only instead of a vm it's my other computer. |
| 20:48.24 | pagios | Failed to initialize driver interface |
| 20:48.27 | WinCaptain_ | Can I hook up a rig like that? |
| 20:48.34 | WinCaptain_ | I think the x window system had something like that. |
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| 20:50.26 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: you run "vncserver" on your jessie system, then you use any vnc client on windows 8 to connect |
| 20:50.35 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: that vncserver is run as *user*, not as root |
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| 20:51.05 | WinCaptain_ | vnc instead of sudo vnc got it. |
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| 20:51.35 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: that vncserver will create its own desktop, its not the same as you would see when sitting in front of that jessie system |
| 20:52.02 | WinCaptain_ | valdyn, like logging in from a different user? |
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| 20:52.47 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: its a desktop that can only be accessed using a vnc client |
| 20:53.26 | WinCaptain_ | Can I access the drives and files and run console and perform sudo? |
| 20:53.28 | heurist | WinCaptain_: many people prefer xrdp over vnc |
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| 20:54.21 | heurist | WinCaptain_: there is also synergy to share keyboard/mouse |
| 20:54.43 | WinCaptain_ | heurist, that's cool, but not for this project. |
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| 20:54.48 | valdyn | xrdp looks like its more similar to windows terminal server i guess |
| 20:55.03 | WinCaptain_ | Do I get to see destop and use mouse with xrdp? |
| 20:55.32 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: its about the same, except that you see a login screen |
| 20:55.41 | heurist | WinCaptain_: from what I understand it works like rdp in windows, try them and see what you like |
| 20:55.47 | WinCaptain_ | Kay. |
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| 20:57.34 | valdyn | of course xrdp needs to vnc client - you can use the windows ts client |
| 20:57.48 | valdyn | of course xrdp needs *no* vnc client - you can use the windows ts client |
| 20:58.03 | WinCaptain_ | too much |
| 20:58.04 | WinCaptain_ | what |
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| 20:58.20 | WinCaptain_ | you're telling me vnc and xrdp are two separate things? |
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| 20:58.50 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: its 2 *different* protocols for (near) identical purpose |
| 20:59.09 | WinCaptain_ | Okay, I thought so. |
| 20:59.40 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: and windows already includes the client for xrdp (or at least some versions of windows do) |
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| 21:01.06 | WinCaptain_ | I'm going with xrdp |
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| 21:02.09 | pagios | valdyn: i cant figure out whats wrong, read the man page http://pastebin.com/rLJWFhUp |
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| 21:02.43 | WinCaptain_ | Lots of php updates lately... |
| 21:02.56 | valdyn | pagios: what is rename4 ? |
| 21:03.10 | pagios | valdyn: the virtual interface created , it is showing in ifconifg -a |
| 21:03.28 | valdyn | pagios: what is wlan5? |
| 21:03.31 | bravvve | nkuttler:are u there |
| 21:03.41 | pagios | the physical wireess interface |
| 21:04.04 | WinCaptain_ | dude that sounds rad |
| 21:04.08 | valdyn | pagios: so the pre-up stanza should be with the rename4 interface |
| 21:04.36 | pagios | valdyn: the pre-up is running on wlan5 to create the device rename4 |
| 21:04.46 | valdyn | pagios: thats fucked up |
| 21:04.55 | valdyn | pagios: as i said, it should be with rename4 |
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| 21:05.10 | pagios | but rename4 is not created by default |
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| 21:05.20 | valdyn | pagios: what does pre-up mean literally? |
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| 21:05.38 | valdyn | pagios: "run that command *before* rename4 is up" |
| 21:05.39 | pagios | /sbin/iw phy phy0 interface add wlan5-sta type managed |
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| 21:06.08 | pagios | thats what i am doing, i amrunning that iwcofnig on wlan5 , before rename4 is created |
| 21:06.34 | WinCaptain_ | anyone else notice the transition from cutting edge to bleeding edge? |
| 21:06.37 | pagios | wlan5-sta is being named rename4 |
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| 21:06.45 | valdyn | pagios: yes |
| 21:06.51 | valdyn | pagios: so fix your pre-up |
| 21:07.06 | valdyn | pagios: (thats probably not all your issue, but its at the wrong place) |
| 21:07.39 | pagios | so you saying: iface rename4 inet dhcp auto rename4 pre-up /root/hiper_scripts/virtual.sh |
| 21:07.59 | valdyn | pagios: no, auto last |
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| 21:08.25 | valdyn | pagios: or more specifically: your "auto.." lines do not belong to an iface definition, they are seperate |
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| 21:09.02 | pagios | valdyn: d.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) has joined #debian |
| 21:09.12 | pagios | http://pastebin.com/72FbF9er |
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| 21:09.24 | avshalom | sometimes when i re-open my closed laptop (jessie, kde, on macbook air 11inc) my trackpad click stops working. is there a way to e.g. restart the trackpad service? |
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| 21:10.01 | valdyn | pagios: http://pastebin.com/kpAQLZbP |
| 21:10.39 | FalconGames | I posted this thread on the #! forums: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=393495#p393495 and someone told me to re-install the entire OS. Is that correct? |
| 21:10.47 | valdyn | pagios: what i pasted is the same functionality as your last paste |
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| 21:11.47 | WinCaptain_ | I'm about to do it guys! |
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| 21:11.53 | WinCaptain_ | ahhh nvm |
| 21:12.44 | pagios | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/9LwvSpZZ |
| 21:14.09 | valdyn | pagios: ok, your interfaces file is good now, but i cannot help with wpa_supplicant issues |
| 21:15.05 | pagios | valdyn: can i set a mac address in network/inferfaces? |
| 21:15.24 | valdyn | pagios: ok, thats what i just found too |
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| 21:16.15 | valdyn | pagios: im not sure, you could always use your virtual.sh |
| 21:16.20 | pagios | ifconfig eth0 hw ether 02:01:02:03:04:08 |
| 21:17.25 | pagios | valdyn: what is the auto usedfor |
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| 21:18.11 | valdyn | pagios: ifup -a brings up all interfaces that are set to auto |
| 21:18.20 | valdyn | pagios: the same command is run when you boot up |
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| 21:19.47 | pagios | valdyn: i think the mac needs to be set after the interface is init |
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| 21:20.13 | valdyn | pagios: so put it on the last line in virtual.sh |
| 21:20.22 | pagios | post-up |
| 21:20.25 | valdyn | pagios: NO |
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| 21:21.05 | valdyn | pagios: post-up you can do things that need the interface to be up and working |
| 21:21.38 | valdyn | pagios: setting the mac is not one of those |
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| 21:22.04 | pagios | it is not working in that virtual.sh last line |
| 21:22.08 | pagios | mac still the same |
| 21:22.20 | valdyn | pagios: try in your terminal |
| 21:22.26 | pagios | works |
| 21:22.47 | valdyn | pagios: show your script |
| 21:23.08 | WinCaptain_ | guys |
| 21:23.09 | WinCaptain_ | awesome |
| 21:23.10 | WinCaptain_ | i did it |
| 21:23.11 | WinCaptain_ | thanks |
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| 21:23.31 | diakonos | anyone have a solution for forcing a script to run absolutely last upon init? I've tried Required-Start: $all; however, I don't think it's running after the other two init scripts with Required-Start: $all |
| 21:23.55 | valdyn | diakonos: what is that script supposed to do? |
| 21:24.25 | pagios | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/D5iDqpQj |
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| 21:25.08 | pagios | it sems you can issue /sbin/ifconfig rename4 hw ether a8:54:b2:a7:65:ce on a virtual interface in post |
| 21:25.11 | diakonos | it uses AT commands to connect a modem then does a force-reload on networking-manager in order to obtain an IP address |
| 21:25.23 | valdyn | pagios: youre creating wlan5-sta but udev renames it to rename4? |
| 21:25.31 | pagios | yea |
| 21:25.42 | valdyn | pagios: thats going to be a race condition anyway |
| 21:25.47 | valdyn | pagios: you need to fix that later |
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| 21:26.01 | pagios | yea will paly with udev |
| 21:26.03 | valdyn | pagios: for now you can use wlan5-sta in that ifconfig line probably |
| 21:27.01 | pagios | valdyn: the pre script is executed by root righT? same for rc.local |
| 21:27.12 | valdyn | pagios: yes |
| 21:27.12 | vol4ko_k | when i reboot my server |
| 21:27.14 | WinCaptain_ | Okay, so, problem. I can only connect when firewall is down. What port should I allow? 3350? |
| 21:27.14 | vol4ko_k | root@server:~# reboot The system is going down for reboot NOW!unches.com (pts/0) (Sat Sep 6 21:26: |
| 21:27.24 | vol4ko_k | i am getting part of my domain appended to NOW! |
| 21:27.31 | vol4ko_k | what could it be? |
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| 21:28.06 | WinCaptain_ | has been using linux for too long because he saw root and thought it was refering to him |
| 21:28.40 | pagios | still not working valdyn for the mac.. |
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| 21:28.48 | valdyn | WinCaptain_: dont ask, run "netstat -plunt" or "netstat -plunt | grep rdp" |
| 21:31.43 | WinCaptain_ | Thanks valdyn :D |
| 21:32.37 | diakonos | valdyn the script I'm trying to boot last uses AT commands to connect a modem then does a force-reload on networking-manager in order to obtain an IP address |
| 21:32.48 | pagios | valdyn: seems you can use face eth0 inet dhcp ....hwaddress ether 00:a0:WH:AT:EV:ER |
| 21:33.28 | heurist | pagios: missed a bit of this, are you trying to change the MAC of a virtual interface? can you do that at all? |
| 21:33.37 | pagios | yea |
| 21:34.43 | heurist | pagios: yea you are trying, or yea you can? that is a hardware thing, surely it uses the MAC of the hardware? unless we are talking about different things. if so ignore me. |
| 21:35.02 | tra | hey i'm upgrading from lenny and I'm stuck now with udev and kernel upgrade. |
| 21:35.03 | pagios | yes you can |
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| 21:36.08 | heurist | pagios: good luck then, sorry for the noise (: |
| 21:37.32 | heurist | tra: you trying to go directly from lenny to wheezy? that is not supported, you will have to go through squeeze first I think |
| 21:37.49 | tra | what am i looking at, if i upgrade udev? apt-get is saying: You MUST install a compatible kernel version (2.6.32 or newer) before upgrading, otherwise the system may become UNUSABLE. |
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| 21:38.02 | tra | heurist: i did squeeze first. |
| 21:38.36 | heurist | tra: and that worked fully? then you are upgrading from squeeze. |
| 21:38.46 | heurist | !tell tra -about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 21:39.21 | tra | heurist: should i upgraded the kernel when upgraded from lenny->squeeze ? |
| 21:39.50 | heurist | !tell tra -about lenny->squeeze |
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| 21:40.16 | vol4ko_k | i think yum kills rhel based distos |
| 21:40.26 | heurist | tra: I would assume so. get everything working before moving to the next step |
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| 21:51.05 | gynter | Hello, i'm using debian jessie. When I close my laptop lid then macine goes to sleep/suspend (not hibernate). The xfce4-power-manager is configured to lock screen when closing lid. |
| 21:51.16 | gynter | It was working wine until "some" upgrade |
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| 21:51.44 | gynter | Any clues how to make it only lock the screen instead of suspend? |
| 21:51.49 | WinCaptain_ | You dont want hibernate, I heard it's bad for the system. |
| 21:51.58 | WinCaptain_ | From ancient sources. |
| 21:52.03 | WinCaptain_ | That's all I know I swear! |
| 21:52.19 | gynter | yea, I want to keep laptop running when lid is closed, but lock the screen |
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| 21:52.32 | gynter | it used to work so, but "some" (no clue which) upgrade broke it |
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| 21:54.11 | heurist | gynter: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 21:56.11 | WinCaptain_ | Okay, now I have a sort of a specific thing. |
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| 21:56.34 | WinCaptain_ | I have a second monitor attached. I want to dedicate that entire monitor just to... |
| 21:56.35 | WinCaptain_ | ok no wait. |
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| 21:56.39 | WinCaptain_ | if I extend monitors... |
| 21:56.46 | WinCaptain_ | and move my mouse cursor to the 2nd monitor... |
| 21:56.51 | WinCaptain_ | and press ctrl+alt+f1... |
| 21:57.00 | WinCaptain_ | It's difficult to explain... |
| 21:57.14 | mtn | !enter |
| 21:57.15 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 21:57.16 | WinCaptain_ | I want my box to ignore my 2nd monitor and only make it tail two different logs. |
| 21:57.34 | WinCaptain_ | sorry |
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| 22:03.19 | _Sayf | Ohai ! Proud New User Today :) Thanks Deb Devs ! |
| 22:04.10 | gynter | hmm thans, found a way. changed HandleLidSwitch=ignore @ /etc/systemd/logind.conf. Now it doesn't suspend anymore |
| 22:04.26 | gynter | thou it doesn't lock either but still better than suspend :) |
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| 22:07.09 | heurist | gynter: under stable/wheezy we would fiddle with acpid configuration. but I have idea how systemd does this. look for stuff related to lid open/close actions. |
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| 22:07.53 | Xaseron | how can i force installation of a package with umnet dependencies? |
| 22:08.05 | heurist | gynter: or ask the people who are more likely to in at #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:08.16 | heurist | Xaseron: that is a *bad* idea |
| 22:09.26 | tra | hey i'm a bit uncertain with the image i should choose. uname -a says: Linux host.xyz 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 06:39:26 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:09.29 | Xaseron | heurist: i'm using steamos and want some debian packages and the debian ones want a specific version |
| 22:11.31 | Xaseron | i know it is generally a bad idea. but i'm willing to continue! |
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| 22:15.14 | heurist | Xaseron: dpkg --force-help but don't say I did not warn you. |
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| 22:22.41 | tra | heurist: thanks for the tips, but: Unable to locate package linux-image-xen-amd64 |
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| 22:30.33 | heurist | tra: from what I have heard the xen specific kernels are not needed anymore, the normal kernels are xen compatible, so you should use linux-image-amd64 . but that is a guess |
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| 22:32.12 | tra | heurist: any odds for the vps to explode? :D |
| 22:32.26 | heurist | tra: https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-image-amd64 says: This kernel also runs on a Xen hypervisor. It supports only unprivileged (domU) operation. |
| 22:33.11 | tra | heurist: ok thanks. i'll try that. i have time till monday to get this done and all important things are backed up. |
| 22:33.41 | heurist | tra: quite possible. I might start thinking about doing a clean install instead. |
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| 22:36.21 | tra | heurist: hmmm well, i'll ask the isp if they can provide me a fresh start. |
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| 23:14.16 | kupo1 | Hello my toy story friends |
| 23:14.29 | dvs | the claw! |
| 23:14.38 | kupo1 | the chin |
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| 23:15.12 | kupo1 | i'm new to bash scripts whatever. and i have it so it updates and upgrades when i open terminal. is there a way to bypass it asking for password? |
| 23:16.14 | heurist | kupo1: depends what "it" is. but probably sudo. look in man sudoers for NOPASSWD |
| 23:17.08 | kupo1 | yeah. i added my user name to sudoers. i don't know much about it all yet. sort of new to me. |
| 23:17.14 | heurist | kupo1: make sure you limit the no password allowance to the upgrade command only. see the manual for that too. |
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| 23:17.41 | kupo1 | okay thannks will check it out. new to weechat as well. how do i add a room to auto connect? |
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| 23:18.27 | heurist | kupo1: /set irc.server.freenode.autojoin #channel |
| 23:18.36 | kupo1 | oops. somhow tried to leave another room and kicked me out this one. |
| 23:18.49 | heurist | kupo1: also join #weechat , they are very helpful there. |
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| 23:21.07 | kupo1 | How do you scroll around in weechat? like down user list and rooms etc? |
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| 23:22.18 | heurist | kupo1: page-up page-down |
| 23:22.20 | heurist | kupo1: also join #weechat , they are very helpful there. |
| 23:22.52 | Stevie-O | I'm trying to install Wheezy with LVM, but I want to leave a portion of the disk unallocated for future purposes |
| 23:23.10 | Stevie-O | how do I change the size of a LV in the "Partition Disks" section? |
| 23:23.30 | heurist | kupo1: note that in #weechat they will get grumpy if you have not read the docs before you ask. we will do that here too though. |
| 23:24.04 | craigevil | kupo1: http://weechat.org/doc/ |
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| 23:31.30 | craigevil | kupo1: or just install weechat-doc |
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