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| 00:21.39 | Lildirt | Another quick question, whenever I'm partitioning and attempt to write the changes to disk, Debian says "No EFI partition was found", and asks if I would like to continue or not. What should I do? |
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| 00:25.45 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, is there something like "safe boot" on your BIOS? |
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| 00:25.58 | Lildirt | I'm not sure. |
| 00:26.57 | pfsense_rookie | You need to confirm this. It's one of those things that is made so that you can only boot windows. |
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| 00:27.44 | Lildirt | How might I go about confirming this? |
| 00:28.24 | pfsense_rookie | Just have a look at the options on your BIOS. |
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| 00:28.45 | Lildirt | Very well then. |
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| 00:30.32 | Lildirt | I'm looking under "BIOS Features", the only two things I can see that might be related are "OS Type" (which is set to "Other OS"), and "Boot Mode Selection" (which is "UEFI and Legacy"). |
| 00:30.43 | Lildirt | Otherwise, I don't see anything else relating to a "safe boot". |
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| 00:33.02 | Lildirt | pfsense_rookie: ^ |
| 00:33.07 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, what other options are there in Boot Mode selection? You may want to use straight legacy and then test if you can still boot to Windows and install Debian. |
| 00:33.37 | Lildirt | Oh, wait a second. |
| 00:33.48 | Lildirt | "Secure Boot" - Enabled, "Secure Boot Mode" - Standard. |
| 00:34.43 | Lildirt | I'm assuming this is what I'm looking for? |
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| 00:36.12 | pfsense_rookie | Yes, disable it id possible, |
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| 00:37.24 | sandman13 | is it normal if I can't see the man page for gcc in Debian? |
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| 00:39.37 | somoneon | Damn you for systemd |
| 00:39.38 | sandman13 | looks like gcc-doc was not installed |
| 00:39.43 | somoneon | Damn you |
| 00:39.45 | pfsense_rookie | sandman13, is it installed? |
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| 00:40.08 | somoneon | Damn you system d |
| 00:40.14 | somoneon | Fucks |
| 00:40.38 | sandman13 | pfsense_rookie: it wasn't installed but I am installing |
| 00:40.51 | sandman13 | thinks he should have googled first |
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| 00:41.06 | somoneon | I hope debian is destroyed because of systemd |
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| 00:41.49 | centrx | something is something because of something |
| 00:41.51 | Doxin | why is the krita package in squeeze, wheezy, and sid, but not in jessie? I'd really like to use it if at all possible |
| 00:42.27 | Lildirt | Yikes, think my IRC dropped for a sec there. |
| 00:42.29 | centrx | Doxin, https://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=calligra |
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| 00:44.02 | btcquant | Need some advice on "server robustness". Have a server at home that I rely on for work. It is plugged into a fairly heavy backup battery. However, the power recently went out long enough that the battery drained. When the power came back, the server didn't boot, got stuck somewhere in the process. |
| 00:44.08 | mechanicalduck | hi |
| 00:44.17 | mechanicalduck | uname -r |
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| 00:44.21 | mechanicalduck | gives me 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 00:44.21 | btcquant | Any advice on configuring the server so it *always* boots back up when power is restored?? |
| 00:44.34 | abrotman | btcquant: that's a BIOS setting |
| 00:44.37 | mechanicalduck | But in linux kernel upstream there is no tagged version 3.2.0. |
| 00:44.42 | mechanicalduck | Only 3.2.1 |
| 00:44.49 | mechanicalduck | So how can I find out what comes closest to upstream? |
| 00:44.50 | abrotman | mechanicalduck: what's your point? |
| 00:44.53 | btcquant | abrotman It did boot, but got stuck somwhere in the boot process. |
| 00:44.54 | abrotman | the sources are packaged |
| 00:45.00 | abrotman | btcquant: then you need to tell us where |
| 00:45.03 | btcquant | Maybe grub? |
| 00:45.20 | mechanicalduck | hm |
| 00:45.20 | btcquant | abrotman Unfortuanately, didn't record where it got stuck. So, don't know. |
| 00:45.31 | THX1138 | btcquant, it was not performing fsck on disks and you didnt waited? |
| 00:45.47 | pfsense_rookie | btcquant, probably the file system was corrupted. Was it not a network issue? |
| 00:45.47 | abrotman | mechanicalduck: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 00:46.08 | btcquant | THX1138 Nope. I was out of town, and couldn't connect back. WHen I got home, just pushed the reset button on the case, and it came up. |
| 00:46.17 | THX1138 | I see |
| 00:46.17 | abrotman | problem solved! |
| 00:46.29 | btcquant | pfsense_rookie That sounds like a possibility. |
| 00:46.49 | btcquant | So, any thooughts on some config settings to ensure best chances of always coming back online? |
| 00:47.00 | Lildirt | Okay, pfsense_rookie, it seems to not be asking that anymore, so hopefully the install goes smooth from here on. |
| 00:47.04 | abrotman | the OS already does that .. it's not made to fail |
| 00:47.27 | Lildirt | Thanks. |
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| 00:47.45 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, sweet. Tell us how it goes and also try to boot to windows to make sure that everything is fine. |
| 00:47.55 | THX1138 | btcquant, when power comes back it's usually of very poor quality, intermittent power, spikes etc.. that can definitely hang a computer despite settings |
| 00:48.11 | Lildirt | Well, worst-case I'm going to just overwrite the entire disk with Debian. |
| 00:48.17 | btcquant | THX1138 Good point. |
| 00:48.21 | THX1138 | btcquant, I would set some external hardware to: power PC only if mains if up for X minutes and so |
| 00:48.28 | Lildirt | But I will. |
| 00:48.33 | btcquant | THX1138 Interesting idea. |
| 00:49.01 | btcquant | THX1138 Thought my expensive UPS would ensure good clean power. Guess not :) |
| 00:49.11 | mechanicalduck | abrotman: my mistake - it works now |
| 00:49.12 | mechanicalduck | thanks |
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| 00:49.34 | THX1138 | btcquant, yeah... unfortunately, who knows. Try researching about your brand/model to see if other people are complaining etc |
| 00:49.46 | btcquant | THX1138 Will do. |
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| 00:50.20 | btcquant | Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to double check the bios, and maybe even kick the power cord out, just to see what happens on reboot from power loss. (What could possibly go wrong :) ) |
| 00:50.52 | THX1138 | btcquant, reproduce what happened, leave it on battery until it dies |
| 00:51.03 | THX1138 | then wait then power it |
| 00:51.17 | btcquant | THX1138 - True. But then I have to listen to the darn thing beep forever... |
| 00:51.25 | THX1138 | heh |
| 00:52.20 | btcquant | Unrelated question: Considering two factor authentication for SSH access to a very important box. Is there any particular hardware token that anyone has experience with? Recommendations |
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| 00:54.15 | rx_ | good ole securid keys ;-) |
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| 00:56.39 | THX1138 | most regular UPSs are good to fix usual spikes and trouble but for a real UPS that can handle most harder situations, thats like very expensive industrial like ones |
| 00:56.58 | THX1138 | -likes |
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| 00:58.51 | pfsense_rookie | And spike protector's fuse burns out, so you also have to check it from time to time. |
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| 01:00.37 | btcquant | Thanks guys - will do |
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| 01:18.25 | jms | hey guys |
| 01:18.52 | jms | i installed debian mini installation from a USB drive without internet connection because i didnt have the ucode files |
| 01:18.57 | jms | but now i have the ucode files |
| 01:19.04 | jms | so how do i install them on my minimal system? |
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| 01:20.21 | jms | this was the netinst image |
| 01:20.38 | centrx | jms, What form are the ucode files? |
| 01:20.47 | jms | .bin |
| 01:20.47 | pfsense_rookie | copy them to /lib/firmware and issue the appropriate commands. |
| 01:21.02 | pfsense_rookie | Or just reboot afterwards. |
| 01:21.31 | pfsense_rookie | If the directory doesn't exist, you have to create it. |
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| 01:22.28 | jms | wait sry |
| 01:22.37 | jms | they are .ucode and .tar files |
| 01:23.01 | pfsense_rookie | What's in the tarballs? |
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| 01:25.28 | jms | for example, i have a file called iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode |
| 01:25.41 | jms | im guessing its a ucode binary? |
| 01:26.10 | centrx | jms, This page says you can simply copy the *.ucode files to /lib/firmware, but I don't know -- http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi |
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| 01:27.29 | pfsense_rookie | Yes, it is. Copy it to /lib/firmware. Also, if it's not an open network you may need to get wpa_supplicant from another computer, if you don't have an ethernet connection. |
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| 01:27.55 | pfsense_rookie | I mean if it's WPA/WPA2 protected. |
| 01:27.56 | jmp | closed the tab by accident |
| 01:28.04 | jmp | ok im looking at the wireless for linux webpage |
| 01:28.09 | jmp | fir the ucode installation |
| 01:29.03 | jmp | man, to simply install linux you have to deal with hardware level ucode. and then everyone wonders why linux hasnt gained widespread adoption... |
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| 01:29.25 | jmp | Microsoft does it right, where everything "just works" |
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| 01:29.46 | Lildirt | pfsense_rookie: So far it's going well, but GRUB is recognizing my Windows 7 install as Windows Vista. Is that okay? |
| 01:29.55 | centrx | jmp, It's the hardware vendor's fault |
| 01:30.02 | Lildirt | It recognized Windows, fortunately, but not the right version. |
| 01:30.05 | pfsense_rookie | Software freedom as a cost in the current paradigm. You weren't clear enough do you already have the drivers or not? |
| 01:30.30 | jmp | centrx: why cant this be packaged with the linux installer? |
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| 01:31.04 | centrx | jmp, I think it is if you download the non-free installer |
| 01:31.10 | jmp | i think the masses want something that "just works" because they are not all computer pople... |
| 01:31.22 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, as long as it boots, it's not a problem. Did you upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 with Windows'? That would be expected. |
| 01:31.50 | centrx | jmp, Debian is strict about whether the included software is "free as in speech", but the non-free installer is available |
| 01:31.56 | pfsense_rookie | jmp, there is an installer with non-free firmware as centrx mentioned. |
| 01:32.05 | Lildirt | pfsense_rookie: No, I didn't. It's been Windows 7 from day one. |
| 01:32.24 | Lildirt | I haven't continued the install, it's asking me if I want to. |
| 01:32.37 | Lildirt | I suppose it doesn't matter at this point though. |
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| 01:34.08 | centrx | jmp, When you become familiar with Linux, it looks the other way around. Linux works seamlessly while Windows has minimal features, keeps getting viruses/malware, and is slow and bloated. |
| 01:34.16 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, do you have a Windows recovery partition? It would be bad if it's pointing to that instead of the actual OS. That would be the only issue. |
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| 01:35.52 | Lildirt | pfsense_rookie: My system was custom-built, Windows was installed onto a bare drive, so there's no OEM partitions (and I haven't set up anything like that to my knowledge), but there is a 100MiB partition on the system that I don't know what it's for. |
| 01:35.59 | jmp | ive been using linux for like 10 years, and its just as annoying to install now as it was back then. |
| 01:36.07 | jmp | it hasnt progressed |
| 01:36.16 | centrx | jmp, Yes, I mean once installed and configured |
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| 01:36.26 | cynicallemon | jmp: yes it has, look at arch... |
| 01:37.02 | centrx | jmp, The set-up is harder, but once set up it just works forever. Windows systems decay over time. |
| 01:37.18 | jmp | agreed. |
| 01:37.29 | Lildirt | Windows is funny because of how it handles being up for a week. |
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| 01:37.41 | pfsense_rookie | jmp, that's what happens with minimal installs. I spent 2 hours the other day with that. Most of the time was with wpa_supplicant and it's dependencies. It's really not made for wireless installations. I already knew how to install the non-free drivers. |
| 01:37.44 | Lildirt | After 2 weeks of uptime my computer slowed to a crawl. |
| 01:37.46 | jmp | nah i havent had any problems with windowssand uptime |
| 01:37.50 | Lildirt | After a month it was barely usable. |
| 01:37.54 | garyserj | I just changed my hostname. How can I make my prompt update itself to that new hostname without restarting the machine? |
| 01:38.04 | Lildirt | And I just format Windows yearly. |
| 01:38.24 | cynicallemon | Lildirt: windows up for a week, contact guiness book of records |
| 01:38.30 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, nothing to worry about as long as it boots. Yeah... it gets like that. It's a nightmare for system administrators. |
| 01:38.50 | Lildirt | I've been just forcing myself to reboot every 3 days because after that it fails horribly. |
| 01:38.58 | Lildirt | I don't know anyone that has made it over a month uptime though. |
| 01:39.12 | Lildirt | Because Windows has been known to just kind of stop recycling memory at that point. |
| 01:39.16 | Lildirt | Or so it has been for me. |
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| 01:39.59 | Lildirt | And installation complete. |
| 01:40.09 | Lildirt | Also who uses FLOPPY DISKS anymore?! ._. |
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| 01:40.45 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, I use one to put my glass on top of. |
| 01:41.13 | pfsense_rookie | Don't even know where it came from. Just says " '99 ". |
| 01:41.18 | Lildirt | Windows boots, fortunately. |
| 01:41.23 | Lildirt | Also it's checking for consistency lol |
| 01:42.05 | Lildirt | That is also the best idea for a cup holder I've ever seen. |
| 01:42.08 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, Windows normally doesn't like dual boot with Linux. That is to be expected for some time on your system. |
| 01:42.08 | Lildirt | I want to get one for that now. :D |
| 01:42.37 | abrotman | That's absurd .. and completely untrue |
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| 01:42.44 | Lildirt | I'm only leaving Windows on here until I know the one game I play actively, so. |
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| 01:42.53 | Lildirt | But actually I used to dual-boot Windows with Ubuntu and it played okay. |
| 01:42.58 | pfsense_rookie | abrotman, it's what has happened to me on multiple occasions. |
| 01:43.04 | abrotman | that doesn't make you correct |
| 01:43.14 | Lildirt | I think it was checking my disk because I kept rebooting it when it wasn't loading from my CD. |
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| 01:43.52 | pfsense_rookie | abrotman, doesn't make your correct either, if correctness is what we are discussing. |
| 01:44.05 | Lildirt | and Debian boots! Woo. |
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| 01:44.29 | pfsense_rookie | abrotman, only laptops though. That's what I have to maintain for the most part. |
| 01:44.38 | Lildirt | Apparently Gnome 3 failed to load, but the DE loaded o.o |
| 01:44.47 | abrotman | the? or a? |
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| 01:45.08 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, graphics... What's your graphics card? |
| 01:45.17 | Lildirt | AMD Radeon HD 7950 |
| 01:45.24 | Lildirt | Probably need the drivers. |
| 01:45.49 | abrotman | Lildirt: jessie or wheezy? |
| 01:45.52 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, I would stay away from proprietary if you can. |
| 01:46.17 | Lildirt | Well, I have no choice to be fair with you. |
| 01:46.24 | abrotman | I don't see 7950 in the 'radeon' man page |
| 01:46.30 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Lildirt about fglrx |
| 01:46.34 | Lildirt | I don't know of a STABLE open-source alternative. |
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| 01:47.45 | Lildirt | It might be "HD7950" |
| 01:47.57 | Lildirt | That's how AMD classifies it, as a "HD" class GPU. |
| 01:48.02 | abrotman | there is no '7950' in the whole man page :) |
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| 01:48.19 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, you may want to have a look at dmesg. With my current device it recommended linux-firmware-nonfree. |
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| 01:49.15 | Lildirt | Oh glorious x.x |
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| 01:49.36 | Lildirt | It might also be 7900 (or 79xx) series. |
| 01:49.41 | Lildirt | They call it all kinds of things x.x |
| 01:49.51 | abrotman | 7900 is in there |
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| 01:50.02 | abrotman | if that's the case, then yes, you need linux-firmware-nonfree |
| 01:50.03 | Lildirt | Then that's what I need. |
| 01:50.11 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, lspci | grep VGA |
| 01:50.13 | abrotman | thought they listed all of the models in there though |
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| 01:51.12 | Lildirt | AMD classifies the GPUs mainly by series. For instance, an HD7950 would install the same software as an HD7970 user. |
| 01:51.59 | Lildirt | Well, it recognizes my Intel internal graphics, and "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Tahiti PR0 [Radeon HD 7950]". |
| 01:52.07 | Lildirt | pfsense_rookie: ^ |
| 01:52.40 | abrotman | Lildirt: try the linux-firmware-nonfree .. the man page lists Tahiti as supported |
| 01:52.47 | abrotman | really thought they listed each chipset |
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| 01:53.28 | Lildirt | So, just apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree I'm assuming? >>. |
| 01:53.30 | Lildirt | >.> |
| 01:53.47 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:53.51 | Lildirt | Alrighty then. |
| 01:54.11 | pfsense_rookie | <Lildirt>, https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-linux-nonfree . Your card seems to be in there. |
| 01:54.30 | Lildirt | "linux-firmware-nonfree" is not a valid package. |
| 01:54.38 | pfsense_rookie | You need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list files if you have not changed it yet. |
| 01:54.53 | Lildirt | "Radeon HD 7900 serie" is. |
| 01:54.56 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Lildirt about nonfree |
| 01:55.30 | Lildirt | Ah, what do I need to update it to? |
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| 01:55.41 | Lildirt | Well, what do I need to add, rathr. |
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| 01:55.48 | abrotman | Lildirt: did the bot not tell you? |
| 01:56.53 | Lildirt | Oh. |
| 01:56.56 | terabit | wonder how debian devs reaced to Christopher Barry's open letter |
| 01:56.59 | terabit | OneLinux == zero-choice |
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| 01:57.01 | Lildirt | My client just didn't make a noise. |
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| 01:57.02 | Lildirt | Sorry about that. |
| 01:57.09 | Lildirt | Usually it makes a ping noise when I get a PM. |
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| 01:58.17 | Lildirt | dpkg: tell Lildirt about non-free sources |
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| 01:59.41 | pfsense_rookie | terabit, the cost of progress it seems. Linus does not seem to be preocupied. |
| 02:00.27 | pfsense_rookie | terabit, I am not yet in touch with the developer world though. |
| 02:00.33 | terabit | I agree with the technical parts of the rant |
| 02:00.43 | terabit | I'm planning on switching everything to gentoo myself |
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| 02:01.28 | terabit | just haven't had time, it'd be a pain to migrate anything debian->gentoo lol , have others that are opensuse,etc... |
| 02:01.41 | terabit | the only pain is gentoo takes way too long for some simple machines |
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| 02:01.56 | terabit | I've always liked the stability and sanity of debian though |
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| 02:02.45 | terabit | https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/8/13/174 <-- this guy's message sums up how I feel( minus the 1337 kernel dev part lol) |
| 02:03.22 | Lildirt | Uh, I updated my sources list but it still doesn't recognize it. |
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| 02:03.32 | Lildirt | I also did aptitude update |
| 02:03.57 | Lildirt | abrotman: ^ |
| 02:05.20 | abrotman | hi |
| 02:05.45 | abrotman | Lildirt: pastebin your sources.list |
| 02:05.53 | abrotman | terabit: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 02:08.00 | terabit | abrotman: not at the moment,but thank you for asking :) |
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| 02:08.26 | abrotman | terabit: k, you can stop the systemd ranting then, thanks |
| 02:08.36 | Lildirt | abrotman: pastebin.com/SdpVDpBV |
| 02:08.46 | abrotman | especially as you plan to go use Gentoo .. thanks |
| 02:08.49 | Lildirt | http://pastebin.com/SdpVDpBV |
| 02:08.51 | terabit | you can stop harrasing people conversing about the disto too,thank you |
| 02:08.59 | terabit | I wasn't ranting fyi |
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| 02:09.37 | dvs | ...unless you're a moderator |
| 02:09.37 | Lildirt | Oh wait actually lol |
| 02:09.44 | abrotman | Lildirt: did you 'apt-get update' after editing the file? |
| 02:10.11 | Lildirt | Yes I did. |
| 02:10.27 | abrotman | Lildirt: paste.debian.net: apt-cache search firmware |
| 02:11.14 | Lildirt | abrotman: I feel like shooting myself, I was typing in linux-firmware-nonfree. |
| 02:11.23 | Lildirt | It's apparently firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 02:11.37 | abrotman | Lildirt: we probably told you that .. our mistake |
| 02:11.46 | Lildirt | That's fine. Uh, so what now? |
| 02:12.01 | abrotman | install it, reboot |
| 02:12.39 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, ah yeah sorry about that. I have installed it a few times, but still can't get the name right out of my head. |
| 02:12.50 | Lildirt | Haha, that's perfectly okay. |
| 02:13.33 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, you may want to install lm-sensors now so you can see if there is any difference in power management. |
| 02:14.30 | Lildirt | Woah. |
| 02:14.37 | Lildirt | Had some funky issues there. |
| 02:14.46 | pfsense_rookie | hmm? |
| 02:14.59 | Lildirt | I typed in reboot from the terminal and it caused Debian to fail to boot twice. |
| 02:15.05 | Lildirt | Second time Grub booted into recuse mode. |
| 02:15.08 | Lildirt | rescue* |
| 02:15.19 | Lildirt | it works now though, spans across all four of my monitors like it should. |
| 02:15.35 | rryoumaa | recuse mode would be horrible unless it provided a replacement |
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| 02:15.53 | Lildirt | and Gnome didn't show an error this time. |
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| 02:16.48 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, great! |
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| 02:17.19 | Lildirt | Uh, not so actually. |
| 02:17.27 | Lildirt | I still can't interact with my desktop. |
| 02:17.41 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, just to be clear you have Intel/radeon hybrid correct? |
| 02:17.41 | Lildirt | I dragged an icon onto it and it's not showing up. Also right-click does nothing on the desktop. |
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| 02:17.59 | abrotman | Lildirt: hit the 'win' key |
| 02:18.01 | Lildirt | I'm not using my Intel graphics at all. |
| 02:18.09 | Lildirt | Win key does nothing. |
| 02:18.24 | Lildirt | I have my four monitors connected to my HD 7950 GPU though. |
| 02:18.33 | Lildirt | The Intel graphics aren't being used at all. |
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| 02:18.38 | Lildirt | They're enabled in the BIOS though. |
| 02:18.58 | abrotman | Lildirt: is there a menu bar on the top ? |
| 02:19.41 | Lildirt | Yes. |
| 02:19.44 | Lildirt | There's a menu bar in the top and bottom. |
| 02:19.59 | Lildirt | But I just can't right-click on the desktop (where the background is) and I can't see icons that are on the desktop. |
| 02:20.23 | Lildirt | Also, all four of my monitors are mirroring each other. I can't change that, either. It just says the monitor is "unknown". |
| 02:20.32 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, I have that happen with multiple monitors. You may want to try with just one first and go from there. |
| 02:20.49 | Lildirt | asdf, oi very well then. |
| 02:20.54 | Lildirt | This is going to be fun. |
| 02:21.22 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, especially dragging icons or windows to the secondary monitor was impossible. |
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| 02:25.47 | Lildirt | pfsense_rookie: Still defunct. |
| 02:25.53 | Lildirt | With only one monitor hooked up. |
| 02:27.02 | Lildirt | Is there anything else I can do? |
| 02:29.03 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, ugh. Unfirtunately not that I am aware of. I have my own issues with AMD. |
| 02:29.25 | Lildirt | What's the exact problem with using their official Linux driver? |
| 02:31.00 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, for one it's proprietary, they generally ignore users in Linux and my own experience with their drivers is not very good. |
| 02:31.27 | Lildirt | .. and what other choices do I even have? |
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| 02:33.51 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, my case was.. follow the manual... everything works on boot, but temperature is still high... system breaks the next day at work. Cannot uninstall drivers because scripts are broken, ccannot switch between discrete and integrated graphics cards. Get more ignored by AMD. Loose a week, reinstall system, try again... |
| 02:35.07 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, not really my area. I do not know if there is another channel that is more appropriate for that. |
| 02:35.19 | pfsense_rookie | It's very specific to the hardware it seems. |
| 02:36.15 | Lildirt | Glorious. |
| 02:36.34 | Lildirt | My temperatures are actually at an all-time low surprisingly. |
| 02:36.39 | jpinx | is there an issue with cdn.debian.net ? I'm getting no connection for updates of wheezy |
| 02:36.46 | Lildirt | I'm looking at low 30C which is not normal for my system so x.x |
| 02:37.11 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, my laptop idles at 70ºC with proprietary. Glorious indeed. |
| 02:37.15 | abrotman | jpinx: use http.debian.net like you're supposed to :) |
| 02:37.31 | dvs | jpinx: Use http.debian.net instead. |
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| 02:37.37 | dvs | jinx! |
| 02:37.48 | jpinx | abrotman: it fails even more from here -- really crappy dns used by the isp |
| 02:38.10 | abrotman | jpinx: so pick a real mirror |
| 02:38.19 | dvs | ftp.jp.debian.org? |
| 02:38.20 | Lildirt | My laptop always idles at 70C lol |
| 02:38.40 | Lildirt | The problem is, I just installed Debian onto my main rig here. |
| 02:38.49 | Lildirt | and then I learn that this isn't going to work out very well,. |
| 02:38.54 | jpinx | ok - nothing to indicate why cdn isn't working now. I'll do something else |
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| 02:39.22 | abrotman | jpinx: if oyu have crappy dns, you probably shuldn't be using that service |
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| 02:39.32 | jpinx | thanks abrotman dvs |
| 02:39.41 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, the problem is when I start doing something. It generally just goes up to 85ºC and the VGA port burns my hand ... New old laptop incoming anyway. |
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| 02:39.59 | Lildirt | Oh, my laptop just sits at 70C no matter what. |
| 02:40.39 | Lildirt | Idle or under load, 70C, just doesn't change. It goes from sounding like a laptop fan to a jet engine though. |
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| 02:42.27 | Lildirt | Welp. |
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| 02:42.37 | Lildirt | I guess I'm going to try AMD's driver since I have nothing else to go off of. |
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| 02:43.49 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, start by looking at google. Hybrid Intel/AMD graphics on Linux are a pain. I have tried most types of distributions. This is a Linux problem. |
| 02:44.10 | Lildirt | Oh, the idea of a hybrid is the issue? |
| 02:44.29 | Lildirt | I can disable the intergraded graphics in my BIOS, maybe that will work? |
| 02:45.02 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, these is also Jessie. There is some more support in the kenel version that it has. Kernel 3.2 (stable) is not very recent - there is also wheezy-backports which has newer kernel versions. |
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| 02:45.50 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, yes. I would do that, but Samsung does not five me that option. Try that. |
| 02:45.56 | pfsense_rookie | give* |
| 02:46.23 | Lildirt | Will do :) |
| 02:46.31 | Lildirt | *begins praying to computer* |
| 02:47.02 | Lildirt | Also, can I do anything about Grub's resolution? lol |
| 02:47.16 | Lildirt | Whenever it boots up, the font is large enough to see from space. |
| 02:47.58 | Lildirt | Nope, that didn't help,. |
| 02:48.24 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, edit /etc/default/grub . There is a parameter that has a resolution ( <some_width>x<some_length> ). Uncomment it and change it to auto. Then do update-grub. You need to be root for both of these. |
| 02:48.31 | Lildirt | Sweet jesus. |
| 02:48.33 | Lildirt | Thank god. |
| 02:48.41 | Lildirt | The font is horrifyingly huge xD |
| 02:48.59 | pfsense_rookie | GRUB_GFXMODE=auto , that's the one. |
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| 02:49.53 | Lildirt | Oh, I just set it to 1920x1080. |
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| 02:50.28 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, I would refrain to insert manual resolutions as it can screw up grub, if it's not supported at boot time. |
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| 02:50.47 | Lildirt | Auto it is then |
| 02:50.50 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, Auto just uses the highest available resolution. |
| 02:51.19 | pfsense_rookie | "auto" , without quotes. |
| 02:51.29 | Lildirt | Yup. Got it. |
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| 02:52.39 | Lildirt | Anyways, guess I'll try AMD's driver since nothing else is working. |
| 02:52.46 | Lildirt | If that doesn't work I'm basically screwed. |
| 02:53.00 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, search google, really. |
| 02:53.11 | Lildirt | Oh yeah there's that oo. |
| 02:53.14 | Lildirt | >.< |
| 02:53.35 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, there are a few things you can try. Unfortunately, the path is not clear and the solution not always possible. |
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| 02:54.38 | Lildirt | I'm willing to bite some bullets and try new things >.. |
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| 02:54.40 | Lildirt | >.> |
| 02:55.09 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, oh oh and loose some time and eyelids. |
| 02:55.14 | gheck | hello |
| 02:55.22 | pfsense_rookie | gheck, greetings. |
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| 02:56.22 | Lildirt | Gee thanks for that xD |
| 02:57.49 | gheck | i am trying to run a setup.py installed version of kazam. I'm using Squeeze. I installed all newest versions of programs that it asked for, setuptools, python-distutils-extra, dbus, dbus-python, python 3.4, and the newest libtool, and it keeps giving me this error when I try to run: |
| 02:58.02 | gheck | ImportError: /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/_dbus_bindings.so: undefined symbol: _Py_ZeroStruct |
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| 02:59.25 | gheck | I typed nm -D libpython3.4m.a and it said it had U _Py_ZeroStruct |
| 02:59.44 | gheck | now It's saying something weird, like getbuildinfo.o: nm: getbuildinfo.o: No symbols |
| 03:00.03 | gheck | anyway I awnt to know why it isn't working, why can't it just run when everything right is installed |
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| 03:02.02 | gheck | do I need to link libpython3.4m.a into some executable I compiled from all the newest .tar.gz versions? |
| 03:02.55 | gheck | you might say to get sid and just use that version, but I'm reading a page that gives specific instructions to use it in squeeze |
| 03:02.59 | gheck | or wheezy |
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| 03:09.51 | gheck | sorry I meant to say I typed nm -D /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/_dbus_bindings.so and got U _Py_ZeroStruct |
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| 03:14.37 | gheck | why would it be undefined |
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| 03:17.14 | Lildirt | Ugh, this is infuriating. |
| 03:17.58 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, how is it going? |
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| 03:18.49 | Lildirt | Awful. |
| 03:19.15 | Lildirt | I tried the open-source drivers for xorg, nope. |
| 03:19.24 | Lildirt | Tried AMD's drivers against some of my own sanity. |
| 03:19.26 | Lildirt | Nope. |
| 03:21.44 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, always the same issue? What version of proprietary drivers did you try? |
| 03:22.37 | Lildirt | Debian/stable. |
| 03:23.20 | pfsense_rookie | Oh, you installed with fglrx? |
| 03:23.42 | Lildirt | I tried. |
| 03:23.47 | Lildirt | Says "unsupported architecture". |
| 03:23.50 | pfsense_rookie | Do fglrx --version |
| 03:24.00 | Lildirt | Command not found. |
| 03:24.20 | pfsense_rookie | Hmm, try to find the version somehow. Maybe with aticonfig |
| 03:24.33 | pfsense_rookie | I'll check the repo. |
| 03:24.43 | Lildirt | No, you don't understand. It actually can't install at all. |
| 03:24.56 | Lildirt | When I try running their tool it says "unsupported architecture". |
| 03:26.05 | pfsense_rookie | hmm, it does say that the 7000 family is supported. |
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| 03:27.44 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, it's just like most things in Debian Stable the packages are old and that card is somewhat recent. It's now just a matter of you trusting the description of the package: "This driver release supports the following graphics adapter families: AMD Radeon HD 7000, AMD Radeon HD 6000, and AMD Radeon HD 5000." for the fglrx-driver. |
| 03:28.12 | pfsense_rookie | I guess desperetion calls you to install the most recent drivers from AMD's website. |
| 03:28.32 | Lildirt | That it did x.x |
| 03:28.34 | pfsense_rookie | If you do, remember to uninstall those first. |
| 03:28.45 | Lildirt | Fglrx isn't even installed. |
| 03:28.46 | Lildirt | At all. |
| 03:29.01 | pfsense_rookie | What did you install then? |
| 03:29.36 | Lildirt | I tried running the program for AMD's proprietary drivers, but it just failed to complete outright. |
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| 03:30.08 | Lildirt | http://pastebin.com/3mRqkzBM is the output ..< |
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| 03:31.55 | Lildirt | It's something I downloaded directly from their site. |
| 03:32.01 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, well. That's the architecture of your CPU or of the OS you installed. |
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| 03:32.17 | pfsense_rookie | You can still try fglrx-driver from the Debian repo. |
| 03:32.27 | Lildirt | Suppose that works. |
| 03:32.36 | Lildirt | Welcome to Linux, xD |
| 03:33.10 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, you have to be careful with architecture you chose when installing drivers. |
| 03:33.51 | shay_shay | Hello |
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| 03:34.28 | pfsense_rookie | Hello shay_shay. |
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| 03:34.53 | shay_shay | no likey pfSense |
| 03:36.03 | pfsense_rookie | shay_shay, that's okay. At least that makes you not a robot. |
| 03:36.08 | gheck | hello |
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| 03:36.30 | shay_shay | I'm using Debian for my router |
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| 03:36.45 | shay_shay | I built it originally to run pfsense tho |
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| 03:39.07 | Lildirt | Well fortunately now Grub's resolution doesn't want to kill me. |
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| 03:40.00 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, didn't auto work? Did you uncomment the line? Did you run update-grub? |
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| 03:42.57 | Lildirt | I was meaning it in a good way. |
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| 03:42.59 | Lildirt | It worked. |
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| 03:43.04 | Lildirt | Although I just got a kernel panic lol |
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| 03:45.39 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, the rabit hole deepens. |
| 03:45.48 | Lildirt | It's not even booting anymore. |
| 03:46.02 | Lildirt | lol |
| 03:46.11 | Lildirt | So I installed the driver in the repo and debian breaks. |
| 03:46.12 | Lildirt | Good to know. |
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| 03:46.27 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, I had same happen. Not as serious anyway. |
| 03:46.39 | Lildirt | ... |
| 03:46.44 | Lildirt | Well isn't this fantastic. |
| 03:46.47 | Lildirt | There went my evening. |
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| 03:47.21 | Lildirt | Yeah, it's stuck at "ADDRCONFIG(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready" |
| 03:47.25 | Lildirt | Nothing else is happening. |
| 03:47.46 | Lildirt | Oh, no, it's loading, just really slowly. |
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| 03:51.24 | Lildirt | Yeah, it's dead. |
| 03:51.48 | Lildirt | Sigh. |
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| 03:52.15 | Lildirt | Now with my luck, Windows will be defunt. |
| 03:52.21 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, did not boot to Desktop? |
| 03:52.35 | Lildirt | Debian simply didn't boot to Desktop. |
| 03:53.29 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, could you not change tty with (Ctrl + Alt + F1-F6)? |
| 03:53.58 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, or if you can login with rescure mode we can try to troubleshoot this. |
| 03:54.13 | sexyboy | fud |
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| 03:59.54 | Lildirt | Windows is just insisting on checking for consistency -.- |
| 04:00.08 | Lildirt | and every single time it does that it screws up my settings. >.< |
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| 04:02.10 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, I just really wish these hardware impediments would go away. Few are the devices that have not provided me with any issues in this regard. |
| 04:02.46 | Lildirt | Well, the unfortunate part is that I will need the power this graphics card can deliver in Linux. |
| 04:02.54 | Lildirt | Else I could have continued scott-free. |
| 04:03.09 | Lildirt | So this it literally my only barrier from hugging Linux and embracing it for what it is x.x |
| 04:03.23 | Lildirt | It's kind of funny though, Ubuntu actually gave me no strife whatsoever when I booted it into a live CD. |
| 04:03.49 | Lildirt | I considered installing it, but I kind of wanted to stay away from it. |
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| 04:07.27 | acu | I just updated Jessie, and I am locked out as user, I can go in only in rescue mode, and as root - any hints what to do ? |
| 04:08.26 | Lildirt | As well, Linux really doesn't give me as much strife in general as Windows does (or hasn't in the past). |
| 04:08.49 | Lildirt | Hell, I've got a 4-bay hard drive enclosure, and I usually have to have it on when Windows boots or else Windows never recognize sit. |
| 04:09.02 | Lildirt | Debian recognized it immediately, to be frank x.x |
| 04:09.45 | Lildirt | However, for tonight, I have to throw in the towel on fixing Debian, pfsense_rookie. |
| 04:09.57 | Lildirt | It's past midnight here and I have to wake up in six hours. |
| 04:11.11 | Lildirt | So, for the night, I bid you adieu. |
| 04:12.13 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, good luck. |
| 04:13.09 | mic_e | hi |
| 04:13.19 | Lildirt | I'll speak to you tomorrow on the matter, if you're here. |
| 04:13.40 | mic_e | I have a (gui-less) debian system that just uses /etc/network/interfaces to automatically set up some interfaces |
| 04:13.44 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, may be. |
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| 04:13.50 | mic_e | how do I prevent any automatic manipulation of resolv.conf? |
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| 04:14.30 | mic_e | alternatively: how do I specify the DNS servers manually in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 04:16.06 | mic_e | (I want it to use localhost as resolver) |
| 04:16.12 | pfsense_rookie | mic_e, hm let me see if I can find my notes on that: You're not supposed to manipulate "resolve.conf" manually if resolveconf is installed. |
| 04:16.42 | mic_e | pfsense_rookie: I don't have that installed |
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| 04:16.52 | mic_e | but I think resolv.conf is written automatically by dhcpcd |
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| 04:19.34 | mic_e | so... if all interfaces are configured as static (and I don't have anything like resolvconf installed), will debian guarantee that resolv.conf will stay untouched? |
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| 04:21.53 | pfsense_rookie | mic_e, sorry can't find which server I used. I can remember updating the database of some program, maybe resolveconf. It has been a while. |
| 04:21.58 | okee | test |
| 04:22.11 | okee | exit |
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| 05:00.51 | gheck | Isn't it awful that we live in a world where people don't give answers? |
| 05:01.06 | gheck | b+ÃXÃ^u ÂÃç¶v;#%æ |
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| 05:01.57 | Abhijit | what you just did? |
| 05:02.02 | gheck | (êNÃ!o(à |
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| 05:20.50 | narcarsiss_ | Can someone help my change a user on debian by adding this command to an existing user. --disabled-login <username> |
| 05:21.15 | arcke | aptitude update -> Err http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release.gpg Could not resolve 'security.debian.org' |
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| 05:21.21 | jelly-home | mic_e: if you had resolvconf installed, you'd use dns-nameservers and dns-search lines in /etc/network/interfaces (it's in resolvconf(8) man page) |
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| 05:22.10 | arcke | anyone else having issues with apt update? |
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| 05:42.29 | tayjes16 | How can I check when the last time I updated my linux kernel was? |
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| 05:43.14 | tayjes16 | I'm having a new hardware problem, and I think I remember the kernel updating very recently, but want to be sure. |
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| 05:43.28 | narcarsiss_ | tayjes16: uname -a ? |
| 05:43.56 | tayjes16 | narcarsiss_, I'm not trying to find my kernel version. I'm trying to see when the package was last updated |
| 05:44.03 | tayjes16 | (thanks though) |
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| 05:44.23 | WinCaptain | Hello, is it possible to have Two linux distros and Windows all in triple boot? |
| 05:44.28 | jelly-home | tayjes16: dpkg, apt and aptitude all have logs in /var/log |
| 05:44.47 | jelly-home | WinCaptain: it's very possible. |
| 05:45.09 | narcarsiss_ | tayjes16: unless you want to go through install.log ? |
| 05:45.19 | WinCaptain | So, I'm booted in windows now... can I just mount the arch (im gonna install arch now), install it, repartition and have it all go? |
| 05:45.28 | WinCaptain | I installed mint first, then windows, it's working fine. |
| 05:46.07 | jelly-home | WinCaptain: sorry dude, you'll have to ask in ##linux; this channel deals with neither arch nor mint... nor windows |
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| 05:46.35 | RayzrShrp | ok thanks guys got it all figured out |
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| 05:46.53 | tayjes16 | jelly-home, There are numerous files in /var/log/apt most of which are gzip'ed ... how can I search through those without having to manually decompress them? |
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| 05:47.31 | jelly-home | tayjes16: zless /var/log/apt/term.log to browse |
| 05:47.36 | jelly-home | erm. |
| 05:48.12 | jelly-home | well. zless will work on both .gz and those still not compressed, as will (Debian's) zgrep |
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| 07:43.28 | jelly-home | sylar_: given that lenny's been outdated since 2012, I'm not sure you're going to get a real answer. Try It and See. |
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| 07:45.48 | Iridos | ah, lenny, that were the days, when I was young and foolish |
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| 08:18.49 | hanasaki | is debian moving to systemd from init.d? |
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| 08:19.38 | rozie | unfortunately, yes. at least GNU/Linux Debian |
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| 08:20.09 | rozie | yet another reason to test kfreebsd |
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| 08:20.43 | hanasaki | is there another debian ? lkol |
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| 08:20.49 | hanasaki | so what don't you like about systemd |
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| 08:23.24 | SynrG | hanasaki: rozie's opinion is not representative of the whole channel. also, plenty has been written about this topic, and we're tired of it. use the debian-devel list archives, etc. |
| 08:25.20 | hanasaki | SynrG .. the topic of systemd or the topic of another linux debian? |
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| 08:27.41 | SynrG | hanasaki: systemd is not a topic, it's software |
| 08:27.57 | SynrG | "what don't you like about systemd?" is a topic |
| 08:28.20 | hanasaki | right. it is a fundamental change in the way debian does this going from wheezy to jessie right? |
| 08:28.24 | SynrG | if you're having a problem with systemd, we can help with that |
| 08:28.56 | hanasaki | so is "why did debian decide to switch? what pro's overroad the cons |
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| 08:29.16 | SynrG | yes. systemd will be installed by default and most modern desktops will not be fully functional without it. however, debian does allow you to use something else. |
| 08:29.50 | SynrG | as i said, this has been adequately written up online, and is not a suitable topic for here. if you want to read about the debate ... |
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| 08:30.15 | themill | dpkg: tell hanasaki about why systemd |
| 08:30.40 | SynrG | themill: thanks. was just digging that up :) |
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| 08:31.07 | hanasaki | new topic ok? how do I get a kdm and/or gdm greeter up for a remote user login on deiban? like the old xdmcp that doesn't seem to work anymore. although I perfer spic since it also brings the audio across the entwork |
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| 08:32.03 | SynrG | i've never done it. giyf |
| 08:32.03 | positr0n | http://pastie.org/9535726 |
| 08:32.49 | SynrG | there do seem to be tutorials for xdmcp with gdm at least. i don't know how relevant to the current version in debian they are, however. |
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| 08:34.07 | hanasaki | I have spent a lot of hours on this...... seems to be a thing that has been abandoned. |
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| 08:38.07 | positr0n | shit i pasted that in wrong channel |
| 08:38.23 | positr0n | guess it doesnt hurt to paste here too ! haha |
| 08:38.31 | positr0n | http://pastie.org/9535733 |
| 08:38.47 | positr0n | im having problems with reliability of establishing a pptp connection |
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| 08:38.52 | positr0n | problems with the routes |
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| 08:41.35 | khurram | how can i login to mysql command line utility without getting prompted for a password ? |
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| 08:42.13 | positr0n | tyope the password |
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| 08:42.18 | positr0n | -pYOURPASSWORD |
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| 08:44.13 | b-tag | khurram, there is a way to store your password in a file so you never get asked for it, but i don't remember the exact details. |
| 08:44.22 | b-tag | Ask in #mysql better |
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| 08:45.36 | Skyrider | Ello |
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| 08:59.07 | khurram | is it possible to send email from command line ? im using wheezy7 debian |
| 08:59.25 | bhuddah | khurram: yes. you can use e.g. mailx |
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| 09:00.10 | khurram | bhuddah: Package mailx is a virtual package provided by: mailutils 1:2.99.97-3 heirloom-mailx 12.5-2 bsd-mailx 8.1.2-0.20111106cvs-1 |
| 09:00.24 | khurram | how can i check if i already have one ? |
| 09:00.38 | bhuddah | just type mailx and see what happens, khurram |
| 09:01.27 | SynrG | or just 'mail' |
| 09:01.52 | khurram | mailx is already installed i guess and it has lots of Cron Daemon |
| 09:02.02 | khurram | now i have ? prompt :) |
| 09:02.07 | cafuego | ctrl-d |
| 09:02.19 | CissWit | aptitude search '~i~Pmailx' |
| 09:02.28 | CissWit | it will find the package that is installed and provide mailx |
| 09:02.31 | khurram | how to send a test email now ? |
| 09:02.47 | khurram | CissWit: i think i dont have aptitude |
| 09:02.50 | cafuego | khurram: If you want an actual CLI mail client, install `mutt'. |
| 09:03.02 | cafuego | khurram: ls | mail me@example.com |
| 09:03.18 | CissWit | ahem, i don't know how to do it without aptitude "^^ |
| 09:03.25 | cafuego | apt-get |
| 09:03.41 | cafuego | apt-get install aptitude, at a pinch ;-) |
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| 09:04.56 | khurram | mail doesn't go out ? |
| 09:05.07 | SynrG | check your queue and find out why |
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| 09:07.58 | Skyrider | Ugh... |
| 09:08.04 | Skyrider | Install latest php5 installed apache as well |
| 09:08.07 | Skyrider | taking over nginx. |
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| 09:12.17 | khurram | cafuego: no emails ? |
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| 09:13.22 | SynrG | sounds like misconfigured. try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config (assuming you have exim) |
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| 09:15.46 | Skyrider | Sorry, exim not installed. |
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| 09:20.24 | petn-randall | Skyrider: In Debian? I'm pretty sure that's not the case. |
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| 09:30.20 | SynrG | Skyrider: my advice was intended for khurram, not you |
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| 09:40.19 | Waheedi | Im curious to know why my cronjob is not running |
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| 09:41.06 | Waheedi | i checked on my syslog and it shows CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) |
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| 09:41.21 | Waheedi | while my cron jobs are under crontab |
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| 09:41.57 | sylar_ | jelly-home, how time files ;) |
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| 09:42.53 | sylar_ | jelly-home, when was windows XP released? |
| 09:43.30 | jelly | sylar_: fiir, 2001? |
| 09:43.41 | sylar_ | oh, yes |
| 09:43.52 | sylar_ | ... and it still runs all browsers |
| 09:44.16 | jelly | points sylar_ to #debian-offtopic |
| 09:44.42 | Mrfai | I have problems with mount --move in jessie. These lines work perfect with wheezy, but failed in jessie: |
| 09:44.45 | Mrfai | mkdir -p /a/a /a/b |
| 09:44.47 | sylar_ | humbly go to #debian-offtopic |
| 09:44.47 | Mrfai | mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /a/a |
| 09:44.50 | Mrfai | mount --move /a/a /a/b |
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| 09:45.30 | Mrfai | I can fix this in jessie with "mount --make-runbindable /" but this breaks other mount commands |
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| 09:49.00 | gargaml | hi |
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| 09:49.32 | gargaml | does anyone know if it's possible to install only a subset of the available updates with aptitude (or any other tool)? |
| 09:49.55 | leni1 | Hi all. Is there a Silverlight equivalent for Iceweasel? I haven't found any Moonlight packages for Debian |
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| 09:51.14 | Nik05 | gargaml you can use the commandline "aptitude safe/full-upgrade [name of packages]" or the GUI and then you can use = as hold key i think |
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| 09:52.07 | gargaml | Nik05: thanks, I'll try that |
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| 09:54.00 | Eleganza | what is this error? |
| 09:54.17 | Eleganza | Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". |
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| 10:09.01 | Skyrider | Can anyone recommend me a few debian packages regarding hits / attacks, piecharts, etc? |
| 10:09.07 | Skyrider | That also gives a webview, like xcache/memcache. |
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| 10:09.29 | jelly | hits/attacks on what? |
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| 10:09.53 | Skyrider | More hits, like.. user hits, most accessed files, etc. |
| 10:10.11 | Skyrider | top 10/100 IP hits, and so on.. :p |
| 10:10.26 | Skyrider | I know I can shell this info, but I prefer a web overview. |
| 10:10.56 | SynrG | against your web server? you still didn't answer "on what"? |
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| 10:11.31 | Skyrider | Preferred a specific domain on the webserver. |
| 10:12.41 | Skyrider | Sorry if I'm vague |
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| 10:19.42 | khurram | can some one please help i want to send email from linux command prompt ? |
| 10:20.01 | ChrisH | khurram: date | mailx -s SUBject -v user@domain.com |
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| 10:21.13 | khurram | root@debian:/var/log# date | mailx -s hello -v khurram@liveadmins.com hangs for ever ? |
| 10:21.37 | khurram | ChrisH: no luck ? |
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| 10:22.04 | ChrisH | khurram: then you might did not (yet) configured your MTA |
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| 10:28.56 | yeboot | hi, I just installed https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/lua-json/filelist but the package isn't behaving as it's documented |
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| 10:29.43 | yeboot | require("json") in a lua script is supposed to include a table named json which contains two tables encode and decode, but it only contains a decode table, and that one is incomplete as well |
| 10:30.12 | yeboot | so, something is up with the package, I'm not sure where I go from here to try and fix/report it |
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| 10:37.51 | veek | anyone know how to get pdnsd to cache v4 and v6?? |
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| 10:46.08 | ChrisH | veek: http://members.home.nl/p.a.rombouts/pdnsd/doc.html The -a option is only available when pdnsd was compiled with both IPv4 and IPv6 support. With this option, pdnsd will try to detect automatically if a system supports IPv6, and fall back to IPv4 otherwise. |
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| 10:48.27 | veek | ChrisH, isn't that something to do with the local IP rather than DNS records? |
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| 10:51.19 | ChrisH | veek: a) have you checked it? b) unless you have no local IPv6 setup, you have no need to cache IPv6 addresses. |
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| 10:53.35 | Dagger2 | ...yes, you do. it's just slightly under the need to /get/ a local v6 setup |
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| 11:12.46 | bitcheker | deluged and deluge-console have so much problems and doesn't work |
| 11:13.37 | yeboot | that's what you get for torrenting |
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| 11:13.55 | yeboot | sorry, unhelpful. Last time I used deluge on a debian system it worked fine, though |
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| 11:20.34 | dgeary2 | i have an mdadm raid 1 array with 1.0 metadata (stored at end of volume) whose underlying volume i would like to shrink. i have already shrunk the contained filesystem and contained partition, and reduced the size of the array (array size is less than available size). what i think i need to do is move the metadata to where it is expected to be found once the underlying volume has been shrunk, but i was unable to find documentation on where the metadata |
| 11:20.34 | dgeary2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:21.12 | \name\space | I?m wondering what's wrong with my zone file http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cC28qTSP |
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| 11:21.44 | dgeary2 | missing 'IN' on the last 2 records? |
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| 11:24.32 | dgeary2 | 1st 3 records also appear to be incompletely specified |
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| 11:25.15 | Skyrider | I've been curious.. |
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| 11:28.31 | cebuano | hello anybody here can help me? I thnk my vps is compremised, how can i kill process running in httpd. source dir is /usr/sbin , i think it's a perl bot, how can i kill them all in a one blast? |
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| 11:34.46 | Skyrider | ThreadKiLL: |
| 11:34.50 | Skyrider | Can't kill the PID? |
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| 11:35.31 | ThreadKiLL | Skyrider , I can can bt it;s like 100+ threads *PID's |
| 11:35.59 | ThreadKiLL | bt is there any way to kill it in a one command , this one wont woth either --> killall -9 perl |
| 11:37.31 | petemc | you can pipe output of pgrep to kill |
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| 11:37.36 | jelly | cebuano: you could kill all the processes running as user www-data, pkill -9 -u www-data |
| 11:37.46 | jelly | petemc: there's a perfectly fine pkill command |
| 11:37.48 | petemc | if your machine is compromised tho, you'll want to do a lot more than kill processes |
| 11:37.53 | petemc | jelly: so there is |
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| 11:39.19 | jelly | cebuano: assuming they are, in fact, running as that user |
| 11:39.20 | \name\space | dgeary2: Do I need some privilege or something that enables me to add subdomains |
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| 11:39.31 | \name\space | dgeary2: I'm getting familiar with DNS |
| 11:41.00 | cebuano | jelly it doesnt work :( |
| 11:41.17 | cebuano | I mean i could kill this manually one by one bt i thnk this is too many. |
| 11:41.19 | dgeary2 | \name\space, i don't understand the question. i assume you are already administrator of that DNS server. |
| 11:41.46 | \name\space | dgeary2: kind of I admin my own VPS I'm just trying to add a subdomain to a domain that I have bought |
| 11:41.48 | cebuano | running in usr/sbin/httpd |
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| 11:42.35 | dgeary2 | \name\space, what do you mean by 'add a subdomain'? |
| 11:42.36 | jelly | cebuano: how does it fail to work? |
| 11:43.21 | cebuano | jelly, it doent kill anything |
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| 11:43.51 | dgeary2 | \name\space, you can create records for any names you want (including those with dots in them). |
| 11:43.55 | jelly | cebuano: are you running it as root? Have you confirmed the processes are running as that user? |
| 11:44.55 | jelly | cebuano: which debian release is this? Pastebin the output of pstree -Au |
| 11:44.59 | \name\space | Don't know what's wrong then |
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| 11:45.25 | \name\space | dgeary2: I have a domain mydomain.com I'm just trying to add a subdomain to that domain, namely texas.mydomain.com |
| 11:45.29 | cebuano | is www-data user is default on debian box? |
| 11:45.45 | cebuano | or i still have to create a user nme www-data |
| 11:46.04 | dgeary2 | \name\space, do you want that subdomain to be hosted by a separate DNS server? |
| 11:46.16 | \name\space | no, same server |
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| 11:47.19 | dgeary2 | \name\space, then nothing special needs to be done. just add the records as you would normally, eg www.texas IN A 127.0.0.1 |
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| 11:49.03 | \name\space | dgeary2: I guess this is correct: repo.mydomain.com CNAME mydomain.com. |
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| 11:50.32 | dgeary2 | \name\space, nope. if you want to use FQDN, put a dot on the end, otherwise the origin domain will be appended to the record. |
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| 11:51.28 | \name\space | dgeary2: so it should be repo.mydomain.com. <- dot at the end? |
| 11:51.30 | dgeary2 | \name\space, so that would be either 'repo CNAME mydomain.com.' or 'repo.mydomain.com. CNAME mydomain.com.' |
| 11:51.51 | dgeary2 | sorry, forgot the 'IN' again |
| 11:52.00 | dgeary2 | 'repo IN CNAME mydomain.com.' or 'repo.mydomain.com. IN CNAME mydomain.com.' |
| 11:52.08 | \name\space | both have dots got it |
| 11:52.21 | dgeary2 | \name\space, on the left side |
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| 11:52.42 | \name\space | yeah I got it, I'm trying that way now, I'll let you know if it works, thanks |
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| 11:59.08 | dgeary2 | \name\space, i've got to go now, but the wikipedia page has a good example zone file: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_file |
| 11:59.19 | \name\space | dgeary2: thanks take care |
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| 12:06.27 | cebuano | \name\space if it's vps , contact ur hosting company, ask for cpanel login. |
| 12:06.33 | Skyrider | Is anyone familiar with pagespeed? |
| 12:06.34 | cebuano | in there you can create subdomains. |
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| 12:06.54 | \name\space | cebuano: I am creating subdomains through their panel but I don't think it's working correctly |
| 12:08.00 | cebuano | are you in godaddy? hostgator? |
| 12:08.16 | \name\space | no |
| 12:08.19 | \name\space | Digital Ocean |
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| 12:09.10 | cebuano | if you're not familiar with commands/interface i guess you have hard time creating one. in cpanel click on the domain settings you can see there add sub domains. |
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| 12:17.49 | Waheedi | ok again my question, i have some corncobs in my crontab for user www-data |
| 12:17.56 | Waheedi | its not running |
| 12:18.02 | Waheedi | how can i make it run! |
| 12:18.10 | Waheedi | cronjobs* |
| 12:18.57 | Waheedi | i edited the syslog config to add cron.log for cron jobs, but only cron.hourly is getting run while its empty and has nothing |
| 12:19.41 | bogus- | hm |
| 12:20.39 | bogus- | is the user a member of the cron group? |
| 12:20.52 | Waheedi | didn't check on that |
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| 12:23.14 | ntz | hello |
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| 12:24.20 | ntz | can anybody remind me, howto I investigate the content of DHCPACK with dhclient ? can't find in manual howto do something like `dhcpcd-test eth0' with dhclient (that just doesn't touch an iface but prints the content of dhcpack) |
| 12:24.33 | Waheedi | bogus-: crontab group has no users |
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| 12:24.48 | Waheedi | but i have another machine that is running crontab just fine and it has no users as well |
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| 12:25.58 | bogus- | hm good point indeed, I see this on my ubuntu box as well |
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| 12:26.33 | bogus- | tried crontab -u www-data -e ? |
| 12:26.41 | bogus- | without the ? ofcourse :p |
| 12:27.12 | Waheedi | lol |
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| 12:28.15 | Waheedi | any idea what might be going wrong |
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| 12:39.18 | Waheedi | ok after restarting cron, crontab started to act |
| 12:39.25 | Waheedi | it was already running |
| 12:39.40 | Waheedi | why does it need a restart, thats a question I'm not going to answer |
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| 12:41.13 | irl | hi, i'm applying to become a debian maintainer but no one has replied to the bug yet and i'm wondering if i messed up the application somehow, maybe i missed a step? |
| 12:41.15 | irl | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760284 |
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| 12:44.40 | babilen | irl: You should ask in #debian-newmaint on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org) about that. :) |
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| 12:45.16 | babilen | irl: I bet its just that somebody needs to be nudged to process your application and, if not, they will be the right people to help you. |
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| 12:46.14 | irl | Ah, I was looking for such a channel. |
| 12:46.16 | irl | Thanks. |
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| 12:49.40 | Jonny135 | Hi! I would like to deploy a website with git on my webserver. I never used git before and it's very clear to me all the mechanic with git. This tutorial seam to be more or less what I need but I my webserver is not the same machine as the git server. Someone could help me to understand the right step to follow to do a nice job. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-automatic-deployment-with-git-with-a-vps |
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| 12:50.31 | gribouille | hi |
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| 12:52.14 | moth | Hi! I'm unable to use my AltGr button. It keeps acting like Alt_L even though xmodmap says it's bound to ISO_Level3_Shift (altgr). Any ideas? |
| 12:52.20 | moth | Running wheezy |
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| 12:53.16 | troulouliou_dev | hi how can i check all the packages installed frolm contrib or nonfree repo ? |
| 12:53.42 | jelly | !tell troulouliou_dev about vrms |
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| 12:54.28 | troulouliou_dev | jelly, thanks but with apt-get or dpkg itis possible ? |
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| 12:54.48 | jelly | troulouliou_dev: use aptitude as instructed. |
| 12:55.04 | jelly | (or vrms) |
| 12:55.20 | troulouliou_dev | jelly, ok thanks |
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| 12:56.18 | gribouille | which directories should I share when I use chroot? |
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| 12:57.02 | petn-randall | gribouille: It depends what you want to do with your chroot ... |
| 12:57.20 | gribouille | petn-randall, I run programs |
| 12:58.01 | petn-randall | gribouille: I guess the answer is "none" then. |
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| 13:04.17 | gribouille | and should I share /dev? |
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| 13:05.18 | moth | So where can something go wrong. I xev says the key is bound to the right value, but it still doesn't have that effect while typing? |
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| 13:08.31 | moth | If xev* |
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| 13:09.57 | t_dot_zilla | hello, i see ksoftirqd is using a lot of CPU. I don't know what this process is |
| 13:10.03 | t_dot_zilla | can someone tell me? |
| 13:10.24 | tlund | t_dot_zilla: it is a kernel thread. |
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| 13:10.29 | t_dot_zilla | okay |
| 13:10.41 | t_dot_zilla | what about watchdog ? |
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| 13:10.46 | tlund | yes |
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| 13:11.36 | t_dot_zilla | another kernel thread? |
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| 13:19.14 | tlund | yes |
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| 13:23.28 | Gractu | how to run debian dual boot with windows 7 64 bit |
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| 13:33.30 | nkuttler | Gractu: last time i checked the installer detected windows installs and addem them to grub |
| 13:33.45 | nkuttler | oh yeah |
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| 13:39.46 | pombreda | Hiya :) Anyone would know of a tool or apt/dpkg call that could could get me the exact list of download URLs for the deb I have installed on a box (same exact version) and the corresponding source urls? |
| 13:40.05 | pombreda | I found bits left and right but nothing definitive |
| 13:40.36 | pombreda | (all command line btw, these are servers) |
| 13:41.09 | themill | pombreda: that can't actually be done. What are you really trying to do? |
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| 13:42.27 | pombreda | themill: exactly no more and no less than what I just stated: get the list of download URLs for all installed binary debs and their corresponding source URLs |
| 13:42.42 | themill | You would want that list for a reason |
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| 13:43.11 | pombreda | themill: of course: this is for an inventory |
| 13:44.00 | themill | So you don't need the URL for that. That's much easier. |
| 13:44.15 | pombreda | themill: Well I want the urls too :P |
| 13:44.16 | themill | aptitude search ~i -F'%40p%20V' |
| 13:44.22 | themill | Well you're not going to get them. |
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| 13:45.00 | pombreda | themill: apt-zip and apt-offline do some of it but this is neither complete nor consistent :( |
| 13:45.19 | themill | that's for a different purpose, hence wanting to know your purpose |
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| 13:45.25 | themill | (probably should make the format string wider for the version or use --disable-columns and make it comma separated) |
| 13:45.27 | cantoma | hey guys, anyone knows why package ufsutils (creating UFS partitions) is only available in sid and why? If so how could someone create a UFS partition in Debian (not sid). |
| 13:46.12 | petn-randall | !tell pombreda about xy problem |
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| 13:46.23 | themill | ,bug rm ufsutils |
| 13:46.27 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/730774 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: ufsutils [alpha amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390x sh4 sparc sparc64] -- ANAIS; newer version is kFreeBSD-only»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-11-29; last modified: 2013-12-31. |
| 13:46.28 | themill | cantoma: ^^ |
| 13:47.12 | themill | pombreda: a list of URLs is meaningless at best anyway and if you don't have a use for them... |
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| 13:48.25 | cantoma | themill, so the bugs basically says that no one cares about UFS anymore |
| 13:48.44 | themill | cantoma: indeed. |
| 13:49.32 | cantoma | themill, I was just trying to format an USB pen stick to some format that would work in linux and as well in windows machines |
| 13:49.46 | cantoma | themill, i was trying to avoid NTFS and FAT |
| 13:49.59 | themill | Ah. I just avoid windows machines. |
| 13:50.21 | petn-randall | cantoma: UFS is readable in Windows? If you want a format that works with both, and have journalling, use NTFS. |
| 13:51.15 | cantoma | petn-randall, aparently UFS is supported in Windows |
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| 13:52.21 | SirLagz | I'm trying to get a PCI sound card working, `lspci` lists it as "Multimedia audio controller: Hint Corp Device 101c (rev 01)", but aplay -l doesn't list it, and lspci doesn't show it using a kernel driver |
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| 13:53.57 | SirLagz | I can't seem to figure out how to get linux to recognise the pci card properly |
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| 13:55.30 | cantoma | petn-randall, I end up with NTFS as you suggested |
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| 13:58.59 | urn1 | If I want to set the nameservers, I can add them to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base correct? |
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| 13:59.33 | Phyliares | Hi, is there a way to read a README.Debian.gz whithout installing package? |
| 13:59.47 | themill | urn1: or you can set them in your dhcp client's config or in the dhcp server config |
| 13:59.59 | themill | Phyliares: sources.debian.net is handy |
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| 14:00.14 | estevao | exit |
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| 14:00.50 | Phyliares | thanks themill, didn't know that service, very usefull |
| 14:01.11 | themill | it's reasonably new and yes, incredibly useful. |
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| 14:01.59 | marvilekke | urn1: That would be "wrong " you'w better add them in file :/etc/network/interface as parameter : dns-nameservers : ns0.example.lan ns1.example.lan |
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| 14:02.47 | urn1 | marvilekke: gotcha. that is what I will do then |
| 14:02.50 | themill | depending on how you're configuring your network that's not correct |
| 14:03.03 | urn1 | the network has static iface set up |
| 14:03.17 | themill | any reason to use resolvconf at all then? |
| 14:03.54 | urn1 | nope. I just haven't had to set nameservers before :) |
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| 14:04.04 | marvilekke | urn1: package resolvconf will handle nameserver resolution correctly by "overwriting " the all known file /etc/resolve.conf |
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| 14:05.01 | urn1 | my vps host has written my /etc/resolv.conf, even though they have static IP set in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:05.13 | urn1 | so they are doing it wrong? |
| 14:05.16 | function1 | i've made some edits to /etc/bash.bashrc, if i source /etc/bash.bashrc i see these edits applied (just a PS1 change). subsequent ssh logins do not have these changes... i'm confused as to why, and about who sources what and when. i think ssh opens an interactive shell which i think is supposed to source /etc/bash.bashrc, any tips or just a link to some definitive documentation would be appreciated... |
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| 14:05.32 | urn1 | themill: ^ |
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| 14:06.01 | themill | urn1: there's nothing wrong with that -- you don't really need the machinery of the resolvconf package if that's all you're doing though |
| 14:06.57 | urn1 | okay, resolv.conf didn't get overwritten on reboot so I think it's going to work |
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| 14:07.21 | SirLagz | Debian wouldn't only load the modules for one sound card even if there's 2 in the system right ? |
| 14:07.46 | marvilekke | Themill: It could be handy when you make us of package avahi however It might not be that flexible when using your own local domain name like eg springfield.lan while avahi uses its own syntax whatever.local. Im not not quite sure how to alter that. And that's why i skipped avahi and resolvconf apckages by doing it on the old fashioned way |
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| 14:08.13 | babilen | SirLagz: Correct |
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| 14:08.27 | SirLagz | babilen: correct...as in it *would* load both modules ? |
| 14:08.35 | themill | marvilekke: avahi doesn't use /etc/resolv.conf at all |
| 14:08.41 | babilen | SirLagz: Yes, that it was you asked, wasn't it? |
| 14:08.46 | SirLagz | babilen: yes, just doublechecking |
| 14:08.50 | SirLagz | babilen: i'm tired =/ |
| 14:09.06 | SirLagz | babilen: this stupid sound card gets picked up by lspci, but won't show up anywhere else and Debian isn't autoloading any modules for it |
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| 14:09.27 | themill | SirLagz: what's its pciid? |
| 14:09.33 | babilen | SirLagz: I thought you meant to imply "My assumption is that Debian would load both modules, is that correct?" (hence my answer) |
| 14:09.51 | marvilekke | Themill: true although I removed resolvconf from my machine |
| 14:09.56 | babilen | SirLagz: Could you show us the corresponding line from "lspci -nn" ? |
| 14:09.59 | SirLagz | babilen: you thought right. I'm just confusing myself |
| 14:10.20 | SirLagz | 06:00.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Hint Corp Device [3388:101c] (rev 01) |
| 14:10.28 | SirLagz | lol...that pci-id has changed since i last booted the machine... |
| 14:11.19 | babilen | What was it before? |
| 14:11.21 | SirLagz | wait no it hasn't |
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| 14:11.29 | babilen | .coffee SirLagz |
| 14:11.34 | SirLagz | sorry, confusing myself with a different card. *sigh* |
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| 14:11.38 | themill | ,pciid 3388:101c --release sid |
| 14:11.40 | judd | [3388:101c] is 'Unknown device' from 'Hint Corp' with no known kernel module in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=3388:101c |
| 14:11.43 | themill | not a good sign |
| 14:11.48 | SirLagz | themill: using Wheezy |
| 14:11.51 | babilen | No, not at all. |
| 14:12.11 | SirLagz | hmm |
| 14:12.12 | babilen | SirLagz: The likelihood that a device that isn't support in sid is supported in wheezy is quite small. |
| 14:12.23 | SirLagz | babilen: ah right |
| 14:12.56 | veek | any idea how i might cache A and AAAA records in pdnsd |
| 14:13.00 | babilen | The idea was, more or less, "would installing a new(er) kernel from wheezy-backports allow you to use that card?" |
| 14:13.06 | SirLagz | ahh I see |
| 14:13.13 | SirLagz | I also tried it in a Sid machine. no dice either. |
| 14:13.21 | SirLagz | sid or jessie. I forget which |
| 14:13.36 | themill | yeah, wouldn't matter |
| 14:13.39 | mechanicalduck | hi |
| 14:13.51 | mechanicalduck | So there is a patch which doesn't merge completely with the downstream Debian 3.2 linux kernel source. |
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| 14:14.04 | mechanicalduck | Can I use the upstream kernel source instead to get that patch merged? |
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| 14:14.16 | SirLagz | so I guess chances are I wouldn't be able to easily use this sound card then ? |
| 14:14.28 | mechanicalduck | How can I make the upstream 3.2 kernel source as similar to the downstream Debian kernel as possible? |
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| 14:20.54 | pombreda | <themill> you said "a list of URLs is meaningless at best anyway and if you don't have a use for them.." ... ok so stating things differently: given an empty apt/cache how can I get back the the exact same debs that were instealled? |
| 14:21.28 | pombreda | if I can get that with apt-get somehow I could also --print-uris |
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| 14:22.50 | pombreda | at least I would get all the original debs alright |
| 14:23.02 | themill | !aptitude clone |
| 14:23.02 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
| 14:23.26 | SirLagz | hmm might try another sound card |
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| 14:25.33 | SirLagz | wooooo this other one works |
| 14:25.39 | SirLagz | i can *seeee* it ! |
| 14:26.40 | SirLagz | wonder why my other machine wouldn't see this card =/ |
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| 14:26.54 | MeanGuy | http://cfnarede.com.br/sites/default/files/infographic_debian-v2.1.en.png |
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| 14:28.22 | pombreda | themill: Thx for that. but that does not rpesever the exact versions. and I am not interested in cloning here, just having the original exact same set of binary (and eventually source) debs as on a given machine |
| 14:28.41 | themill | pombreda: given there is only one candidate version of each package in a stable release in any case, the version info isn't interesting |
| 14:28.44 | pombreda | s/rpesever/preserve |
| 14:28.57 | themill | You can always change the format string to add it in though |
| 14:29.26 | veek | how do i prevent my resolv.conf being nuked by pppoe - i have usepeerdns hashed |
| 14:29.28 | pombreda | themill: in general may be, but that does not help in my case |
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| 14:29.36 | pombreda | themill: good point |
| 14:29.46 | pombreda | and then use <package=version>? |
| 14:30.08 | veek | i'm using resolvconf |
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| 14:30.33 | jelly | MeanGuy: testing for general users? |
| 14:31.00 | MeanGuy | jelly: what :) |
| 14:31.08 | jelly | what what |
| 14:31.24 | jelly | MeanGuy: it's what the infographic says |
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| 14:31.42 | MeanGuy | "understanding debian" |
| 14:32.09 | jelly | yes, I'm not sure how much that bit shows understanding |
| 14:32.18 | MeanGuy | xD |
| 14:32.21 | MeanGuy | true |
| 14:32.38 | MeanGuy | The Debian Way for Illumination |
| 14:33.11 | MeanGuy | I miss the step where Ubuntu steals all debian packages and gives no changes back, can someone find it? |
| 14:33.23 | themill | MeanGuy: wrong channel? |
| 14:33.30 | rgr | uh oh... |
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| 14:33.46 | MeanGuy | why do I have to post the infographic more than twice for people to read it |
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| 14:33.54 | jelly | MeanGuy: let's continue in #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:37.47 | pombreda | themill: I can get the urls for a deb with this: apt-get install --reinstall --download-only --print-uris packagename=version ... combining that with a -F%p%v with the clone aptitude above I guess I can manage something after all |
| 14:37.56 | pombreda | themill: thanks for your help! |
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| 14:38.14 | pombreda | themill: so I guess this can be donw after all? |
| 14:38.21 | pombreda | s/down/done |
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| 14:39.50 | themill | It'd be easier to grab the path from Packages or apt-cache output. It's not going to be helpful though... you either install the package (which will work) or if you're really worried about versions, then the URL is going to 404 later anyway. |
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| 14:42.00 | pombreda | themill: true, but I can still at least refetch now the apt/cache exactly as for the deb I have installed |
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| 14:42.23 | pombreda | themill: in anycase thanks mucho for the help :) |
| 14:42.35 | themill | No, that's not going to work. |
| 14:42.50 | pombreda | themill: care to elaborate why? |
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| 14:43.09 | SirLagz | so I plugged in that sound card that worked into another machine, and it doens't even pick it up =/ |
| 14:43.12 | SirLagz | not even in lspci |
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| 14:43.37 | SirLagz | whats going on =/ |
| 14:43.50 | themill | pombreda: If the specific version you want is still there, then it is the only version there so you don't need the version. If it is not the version that is in that release any more, then it is not on the mirror so you'll just get a 404 when you try to fetch it. |
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| 14:44.47 | pombreda | themill: ok, but that version must still be available somewhere somehow? |
| 14:44.55 | themill | !snapshot |
| 14:44.56 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 14:45.07 | themill | pombreda: so the URL doesn't help you |
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| 14:46.26 | SirLagz | the BIOS can see the sound card, but linux can't...hmm |
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| 14:48.57 | Skyrider | How useful is mounting /tmp noexec? |
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| 14:49.42 | urn1 | isn't noexec easy to get around? Or am I thinking of the executable attribute for files? |
| 14:50.18 | themill | Skyrider: it's useful enough to foil a script-kiddie that's playing with php-hack-of-the-day. You have to remount exec for dpkg though. |
| 14:50.24 | babilen | Skyrider: Remember to remount it without when installing packages. |
| 14:50.51 | themill | (istr setting TMPDIR also works) |
| 14:51.16 | Skyrider | Or it is without noexec.. |
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| 14:51.24 | pombreda | themill: I think I get your point: I shoudls just as well use a snapshot URL instead that can I build based on the package name and a little API query to snapshot? http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/mirror/snapshot.debian.org.git/tree/API |
| 14:51.26 | Skyrider | Honestly, I'm just following this tutorial :p http://howtogetitworking.com/2011/06/28/installing-mysqld-dreamhost-vps/ |
| 14:51.41 | Skyrider | it says "request for the admin to mount /tmp folder without noexec" |
| 14:51.41 | dontknow | why isn't iceweasel profile guided optimized in debian? |
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| 14:52.51 | petn-randall | dontknow: Can you rephrase your question? I don't understand what you mean. |
| 14:53.28 | babilen | Skyrider: Is it mounted noexec and did you run into that error? |
| 14:53.38 | themill | pombreda: yes, you can programmatically work out what the path in pool should be for any package or you can extract it from the Packages file. grep-dctrl would help here |
| 14:53.55 | Skyrider | if I check the mount list, the noexec is under /tmp |
| 14:54.00 | Skyrider | as far as the tutorial says, it should be gone. |
| 14:54.38 | jcm | hi, after upgrading from squeeze to wheezy a RAID5 server, I have big pb with mdadm. I found out how to rebuild the array in the busybox shell of the live cd, but it fails to boot, hanging after grub (root partition not mounted, no more /dev/md1). Any ideas? |
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| 14:56.17 | babilen | Skyrider: But it was noexec earlier and you encountered an error during the installation of the mysql packages? |
| 14:56.39 | dontknow | petn-randall, pgo (profile guide optimization) is something that optimize software better. it compiles twice and gain better binary. it is default for firefox |
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| 14:57.50 | Skyrider | No idea, as of yet.. I received multiple errors when installing the server. |
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| 14:58.19 | babilen | Skyrider: Such as? Could you paste those to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 14:58.51 | petn-randall | dontknow: Probably because the doubling of compile time isn't worth the small performance improvement. |
| 14:59.48 | Skyrider | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b8cf4c19/ |
| 15:00.15 | Skyrider | after that, I just removed it again |
| 15:00.44 | babilen | Skyrider: We do not support dotdeb packages |
| 15:01.00 | Skyrider | figured as much |
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| 15:03.55 | dontknow | petn-randall, it has big performance impact |
| 15:04.17 | petn-randall | dontknow: Do you have numbers to back that up? |
| 15:04.43 | jelly | dontknow: as a workaround, you can use Mozilla's Firefox builds without a lot of trouble |
| 15:04.51 | jhutchins | It's a Microsoft thing. |
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| 15:05.25 | jelly | did not know pgo was available for gcc builds |
| 15:05.41 | dontknow | petn-randall, it is like getting 190 score without pgo and getting 175 with pgo |
| 15:05.47 | jelly | dontknow: on linux? |
| 15:05.50 | dontknow | in sunspider benchmark |
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| 15:05.54 | dontknow | jelly, yes |
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| 15:06.23 | jhutchins | dontknow: So recompile it. That's always an option in Linux - do it the way you think is best. |
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| 15:08.08 | jelly | judd: bug 531348 |
| 15:08.09 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/531348 in iceweasel (open): «Please compile xulrunner with PGO optimizations»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2009-05-31; last modified: 2012-04-09. |
| 15:08.34 | jelly | dontknow: the bug is open since 2009. Someone has to do the work. |
| 15:09.05 | dontknow | jelly, lol since 2009! great! |
| 15:09.30 | babilen | so funny |
| 15:09.59 | Skyrider | yay.. removed dotdeb.. |
| 15:10.04 | Skyrider | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.12 | dontknow | other distros have pgo builds |
| 15:10.24 | jelly | dontknow: hey, if you make the thing work, feel free to send a patch there. It would probably be nice to show some popular page works markedly better with PGO. |
| 15:10.48 | dontknow | jelly, sure :p |
| 15:10.51 | babilen | Skyrider: You would have to remove all packages installed from dotdeb and then reinstall the Debian ones again. |
| 15:10.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell Skyrider -about bat |
| 15:11.18 | themill | dontknow: you'll see the discussion in that bug about the segfaults it causes too. Running faster isn't much use if it segfaults. |
| 15:11.19 | jelly | dontknow: in the meantime, I'll use Firefox, so hurry up |
| 15:11.58 | jelly | themill: that was 3-4 gcc and zillions of firefox versions ago tho |
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| 15:12.36 | jelly | dontknow: if you fix this before November, it may be part of jessie |
| 15:13.10 | themill | jelly: sure |
| 15:13.32 | dontknow | jelly, i have no knowledge about patching etc.. i am only able to modify things |
| 15:13.37 | SirLagz | woooo it suddenly picked it up |
| 15:13.40 | SirLagz | stupid computers |
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| 15:13.59 | jelly | dontknow: well, I'm just saying the package is not going to fix itself |
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| 15:15.42 | dontknow | he says "Let's add to that that I don't know if PGO builds require network at |
| 15:15.42 | dontknow | build time, but I sure hope it doesn't because that'd be a big NO." it requires phyton to get incoming 8080 connction |
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| 15:15.56 | jhutchins | http://cfnarede.com.br/sites/default/files/infographic_debian-v2.1.en.png |
| 15:16.09 | mgaunard | hi, how can I convert a debian gnome installation to a minimal gnome installation? |
| 15:16.23 | mgaunard | I want to remove everything related to X and GNOME |
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| 15:16.44 | jhutchins | mgaunard: How is it a minimal gnome installation if you remove gnome? |
| 15:16.47 | SirLagz | mgaunard: don't install X or gnome ? |
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| 15:17.49 | centrx | jhutchins, That graphic is even more confusing |
| 15:18.08 | mgaunard | sorry |
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| 15:18.13 | mgaunard | I meant a minimal debian installation |
| 15:18.33 | mgaunard | SirLagz: it's already installed. I'd like to avoid having to reinstall just because there are extra packages I don't need |
| 15:18.56 | SirLagz | mgaunard: it's probably easier to start afresh if you want a minimal installation |
| 15:19.31 | dontknow | jelly, actually iceweasel stable performs better than latest pgo iceweasel lol |
| 15:19.32 | mgaunard | surely there is a way to uninstall all packages related to window management |
| 15:19.33 | SirLagz | otherwise you'll have other cruft to remove then that will cause other things to not be needed anymore etc etc. |
| 15:20.16 | SirLagz | mgaunard: depends on how much time you want to spend on it |
| 15:20.44 | mgaunard | running "sudo apt-get purge xorg" hardly takes a lot of time |
| 15:20.48 | mgaunard | but i'm not sure that's enough |
| 15:20.52 | SirLagz | mgaunard: no, it's not enough |
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| 15:20.57 | mgaunard | i'm looking for the right packages to remove, which is why i'm here |
| 15:21.04 | SirLagz | mgaunard: that'll leave any gui programs still installed |
| 15:21.19 | SirLagz | mgaunard: probably also leave your WM instlaled |
| 15:21.21 | SirLagz | installed* |
| 15:22.03 | jelly | dontknow: tbh I don't use Debian's iceweasel but Mozilla's Firefox ESR |
| 15:22.08 | dontknow | jelly, i mean comparing to parabola's iceweasel-libre. but i installed the latest iceweasel on debian stable. i think it is also not pgo |
| 15:22.08 | SirLagz | mgaunard: just start uninstalling things until the GUI goes away :P |
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| 15:22.21 | dontknow | jelly, why? |
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| 15:22.26 | mgaunard | is there a way to remove all the packages installed because of a metapackage? |
| 15:23.35 | jelly | dontknow: because it works, and I don't have time to test iceweasel and see whether Debian reliably releases fixes for it these days |
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| 15:24.08 | mgaunard | tasksel can apparently do this |
| 15:24.19 | SirLagz | is there a way to determine the current audio playback device via a command of some sort ? |
| 15:24.47 | SirLagz | or the default device rather |
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| 15:26.38 | mgaunard | SirLagz: alsa or pulseaudio ? |
| 15:26.41 | SirLagz | mgaunard: alsa |
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| 15:27.33 | dontknow | jelly, but they releases it in time and it is really solid |
| 15:27.37 | mgaunard | aplay -L should tell you |
| 15:27.55 | SirLagz | mgaunard: it's showing 2 defaults |
| 15:28.05 | SirLagz | mgaunard: probably because I have 2 sound cards in this machine |
| 15:28.06 | dontknow | jelly, i am talking about stable not the latest |
| 15:28.19 | mgaunard | only one for me here |
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| 15:30.29 | jelly | dontknow: iceweasel in debian used to lag behind quite a bit, it's nice to hear that changed |
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| 15:35.13 | SirLagz | woo using .asoundrc did what I needed |
| 15:35.26 | SirLagz | now just need to make .asoundrc dynamic depending on where the user logs in |
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| 15:46.29 | sine0 | do we have a denyhosts apt-get package |
| 15:47.01 | jelly | sine0: do we? apt-cache search denyhosts |
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| 15:47.55 | centrx | sine0, It's in stable, but looks like it was removed from future releases because it is really old: last release 2008 |
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| 15:49.20 | sine0 | I have someone or a few ips from china trying to hammer my shells root password |
| 15:49.34 | sine0 | any suggestions |
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| 15:50.04 | dontknow | why does cern uses centos instead of debian? http://linux.web.cern.ch/linux/centos7/ |
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| 15:50.39 | jelly | dontknow: best to ask them? |
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| 15:50.54 | centrx | sine0, install fail2ban |
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| 15:51.09 | centrx | sine0, also make sure root login is disabled entirely for SSH |
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| 15:51.30 | jelly | centrx: well, that's not really an issue if the password is random enough |
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| 15:55.06 | petn-randall | dontknow: How should we know? You'll have to ask CERN. |
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| 16:01.54 | dontknow | petn-randall, maybe debian is not enough to make accelerator work |
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| 16:04.21 | petn-randall | dontknow: I don't really know. Let's drop it, it pretty offtopic anyway. |
| 16:04.54 | dontknow | yes. just chitchatting |
| 16:05.51 | somiaj | dontknow: that is what #debian-offtopic is for. (: |
| 16:06.15 | dontknow | yea |
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| 16:15.52 | mechanicalduck | Following these instructions for rebuilding official debian kernel: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
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| 16:16.00 | mechanicalduck | Step 7 |
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| 16:16.06 | mechanicalduck | make -f debian/rules source-all |
| 16:16.08 | mechanicalduck | make: *** No rule to make target `source-all'. Stop. |
| 16:16.13 | mechanicalduck | So there is no target source-all anymore? |
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| 16:16.27 | centrx | mechanicalduck, Are you running this command from the right directory? |
| 16:16.28 | mechanicalduck | Is that tutorial outdated? Or did I miss something? |
| 16:16.46 | centrx | mechanicalduck, make commands need to be run in the right directory, usually the top level |
| 16:16.48 | mechanicalduck | I am inside /usr/src/linux-3.14.15 |
| 16:16.51 | mechanicalduck | I can see the debian directory. |
| 16:17.01 | mechanicalduck | $ make -f debian/rules clean |
| 16:17.02 | mechanicalduck | works fine |
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| 16:19.31 | mechanicalduck | centrx: Can I use the default target instead? |
| 16:19.39 | mechanicalduck | I want to rebuild the kernel and install it on the system. |
| 16:19.45 | mechanicalduck | I patched it with overlayfs. |
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| 16:20.28 | mechanicalduck | I have pulled the linux source using $ apt-get source linux |
| 16:20.33 | mechanicalduck | (as described in tutorial) |
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| 16:20.42 | mechanicalduck | Then I ran $ make -f debian/rules clean |
| 16:20.56 | mechanicalduck | But the next step doesn't work: make -f debian/rules source-allmake: *** No rule to make target `source-all'. Stop. |
| 16:21.18 | centrx | mechanicalduck, "Note: on the first run, the target fails. Make sure you run it twice." ? |
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| 16:21.27 | mechanicalduck | yes |
| 16:21.29 | mechanicalduck | ah |
| 16:21.31 | mechanicalduck | Just read it :D |
| 16:21.41 | mechanicalduck | they should highlight it somehow, red color and bold or something |
| 16:22.05 | centrx | There's a giant box :) |
| 16:22.07 | mechanicalduck | So I ran it three times now and I always get an error message. |
| 16:22.12 | mechanicalduck | make: *** No rule to make target `source-all'. Stop. |
| 16:22.14 | mechanicalduck | again and again |
| 16:22.16 | mechanicalduck | damn |
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| 16:23.25 | mechanicalduck | This is really wicked :( |
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| 16:24.15 | centrx | I'm not sure, I've only built vanilla kernels or used dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 16:24.32 | Gractu | How to run debian besides windows 7 |
| 16:24.58 | centrx | Gractu, Resize partitions during installation and install |
| 16:25.08 | mechanicalduck | centrx: oh, is there also a tutorial about rebuilding it using dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 16:25.23 | Gractu | Do I need a cd ? Or direct install ? |
| 16:26.11 | centrx | Gractu, CD is usually the best way, you can get a "net install" CD, 180MB, everything else will be installed from the Internet as you choose |
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| 16:27.46 | Gractu | Actually I live in a remote area and we do not have cd shops here , I was thinking if I could download debian OS on windows directory and the run it and something like that? |
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| 16:28.12 | Gractu | New to linux |
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| 16:28.24 | abrotman | Gractu: goodbye-windows.com or something like that |
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| 16:29.43 | Gractu | Also are there different gui available for debian? GNOME? |
| 16:30.00 | arcke | Gractu: do you have a usb and usb bootable machine? |
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| 16:30.51 | Gractu | Yes I have a sd card reader type usb, put in sd card and run like usb |
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| 16:31.16 | Gractu | 2GB of sd card |
| 16:31.21 | arcke | you can write the disk image to a usb card/stick and try booting from it |
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| 16:31.32 | terabit | Gractu: try enlightenment for something light, or kde for something featur-full |
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| 16:32.03 | petn-randall | Gractu: Gnome, KDE, Xfce and a dozen lesser known desktop environments are available. If you live in a remote location, but have good bandwidth at some place, it might make sense to download all DVD images. |
| 16:32.34 | Gractu | All! |
| 16:32.54 | Gractu | I have 3G and I get 7 mbps :D |
| 16:33.00 | Gractu | Speed* |
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| 16:33.07 | arcke | if you want up to date software you will be downloading everything again, preferrably only use DVDs/USB media for a first installation |
| 16:33.14 | Gractu | terabit thanks |
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| 16:33.31 | Gractu | Ok architekt |
| 16:33.37 | Gractu | arcke* |
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| 16:34.11 | petn-randall | Gractu: Then it might make sense to order the DVDs for a small price. Or you just let the download(s) run overnight, assuming your connection isn't metered. |
| 16:35.03 | Gractu | How much will it be in size? |
| 16:35.08 | Gractu | To download* |
| 16:35.17 | Gractu | 180 mb ? |
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| 16:36.25 | Gractu | I have 6 GB limit and I just started using it . I have 6000 MB so I think it will do ! |
| 16:37.21 | Gractu | Ok :) I will download tonight on my usb and come back :) |
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| 16:38.25 | arcke | Gractu: good luck |
| 16:38.32 | Gractu | Thanks |
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| 16:39.57 | arcke | Gractu: in Windows you need a tool to write iso images to USB |
| 16:39.58 | Gractu | Thanks everyone who responded :) and the whole community too for the open source contributions :) brb. |
| 16:40.02 | Gractu | Oh |
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| 16:40.20 | Gractu | Where to get this tool? |
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| 16:40.38 | arcke | i dont think this is possible in Windows normally |
| 16:40.44 | Gractu | What are ISO images? Copy right protected? |
| 16:40.46 | arcke | something like rawrite.exe iirc |
| 16:41.03 | centrx | Gractu, ISO is the raw format for CDs/DVDs |
| 16:41.11 | arcke | they are cd9660 filesystems encoded in a file |
| 16:41.18 | Gractu | Ah! |
| 16:41.31 | arcke | if you copy the file, it wont boot |
| 16:41.42 | petn-randall | !tell Gractu -about usb install |
| 16:41.43 | arcke | you have to write the image in raw format to the device |
| 16:42.09 | Gractu | Is debian cds available in India? |
| 16:42.18 | petn-randall | Gractu: dpkg should have sent you a link how to create USB images. |
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| 16:42.34 | Gractu | Yeah I am reading |
| 16:42.39 | petn-randall | Gractu: Sure! https://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
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| 16:55.36 | zzz | question, how would i do a raid1 -> raid10 migration with mdadm? |
| 16:55.41 | zzz | with lvm |
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| 16:58.15 | jhutchins | zzz: 1) Back up contents. 2) Restructure RAID. 3) Restore contents. |
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| 16:58.43 | jhutchins | zzz: Do you think software raid 0 will give you better performance? |
| 16:58.48 | zzz | raid10 |
| 16:59.03 | jhutchins | zzz: Ah, missed that. |
| 16:59.26 | centrx | 10 = 1+0 = 1 so you're already all set |
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| 16:59.33 | zzz | i get the general flow of it, i just don't know the commands or which to fail and add spare during the resync |
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| 16:59.56 | zzz | i know i'd have to --zero-superblock on the new disks and fdisk and set partition type to linux raid |
| 17:00.04 | zzz | but other than that |
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| 17:01.00 | zzz | also, it's lvm, so i'd have to lvextend ya? |
| 17:01.27 | zzz | guy has 2x2TB disks in raid1 currently |
| 17:01.53 | zzz | actually i could just tell him to get a new server, that chassis can only support 2 drives anyway |
| 17:02.03 | zzz | would it just be better to set it up in raid10 in the first place? |
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| 17:04.01 | jhutchins | Software raid 10 really doesn't make sense with less than four devices. |
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| 17:04.06 | zzz | yeah |
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| 17:04.35 | zzz | trying to get him on a 3ware 9650 |
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| 17:04.54 | zzz | so he doesn't have to futz with mdadm |
| 17:04.57 | zzz | but he's cheap |
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| 17:05.12 | zzz | also, he's on centos, so there's that |
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| 17:05.51 | zzz | but i'm more versed in debian, so it translates better for me |
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| 17:07.43 | zzz | but say they did a chassis swap jhutchins |
| 17:07.50 | zzz | and added 2 more drives |
| 17:08.08 | zzz | is there a guide on the RLM from raid1->raid10 (with lvm) |
| 17:08.32 | jhutchins | zzz: 1) Back up contents. 2) Restructure RAID. 3) Restore contents. |
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| 17:08.42 | zzz | again, i get that, but i mean the commands |
| 17:08.50 | zzz | so i know which disks to fail and which to spare etc |
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| 17:08.52 | jhutchins | zzz: REstructuring the raid without a backup is foolish. Just build a new one and restore. |
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| 17:09.01 | zzz | yeah backup is a given |
| 17:09.22 | jhutchins | zzz: So why agonize about trying to grow the raid when you can just rebuild? |
| 17:09.29 | zzz | because customer is cheap |
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| 17:09.44 | zzz | and hundreds of private nameservers |
| 17:09.45 | zzz | also cpanel |
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| 17:10.18 | jhutchins | zzz: Did someone tell him he could do this with no downtime or something? |
| 17:10.33 | zzz | no i told him if it were possible, there definitely would be |
| 17:10.54 | zzz | he's just wondering about the step-by-step procedure |
| 17:11.08 | zzz | and frankly so am i |
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| 17:11.19 | zzz | never done a RLM with lvm |
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| 17:12.08 | jhutchins | zzz: I don't really know mdadm well enough to give you a step by step for something I probably wouldn't do in the first place. |
| 17:12.17 | zzz | fair enough |
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| 17:12.34 | jhutchins | zzz: Mostly I don't do RAID unless there's a dedicated physical controller with cache ram. |
| 17:12.40 | zzz | yeah |
| 17:12.45 | zzz | trying to talk him into 9650 |
| 17:12.46 | jelly-home | zzz: #linux-raid is the md channel |
| 17:12.50 | zzz | orly |
| 17:12.55 | jelly-home | yarly |
| 17:12.59 | zzz | gnarly |
| 17:13.08 | Mousey | nowai |
| 17:13.13 | zzz | yawai |
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| 17:16.45 | jelly-home | zzz: it's a small channel so be patient |
| 17:17.26 | valdyn | zzz: the recipes are in /usr/share/doc/mdadm . Did you read that? |
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| 17:17.52 | jelly-home | zzz: and don't expect a lot of hand-holding. You might get better help if you propose a solution that shows you've read the docs, and ask whether it seems correct |
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| 17:19.02 | valdyn | theres a couple way to do this live anyway, if youre on lvm |
| 17:19.13 | jelly-home | or right, pvmove is an option |
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| 17:19.42 | zzz | well, i read up on raid1->raid5 but fk raid5 |
| 17:19.48 | valdyn | ( no where they say that pvmoving your swap partition is broken, but dont do it anyway, it *is* broken ) |
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| 17:20.35 | jelly-home | valdyn: Tried That and Saw? |
| 17:20.51 | valdyn | jelly-home: yes |
| 17:20.54 | jelly-home | swapoff ftw |
| 17:21.14 | valdyn | yea, theres no issue if its off of course |
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| 17:21.42 | jelly-home | (and if you can't swapoff with normal workload, you need to get more RAM anyway) |
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| 17:23.35 | valdyn | 18:59 < zzz> i know i'd have to --zero-superblock on the new disks and fdisk and set partition type to linux raid |
| 17:23.43 | valdyn | zzz: ^^ is mostly wrong |
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| 17:23.56 | jelly-home | if they're new there's nothing to zero |
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| 17:24.10 | zzz | i happen to know that the dc doesn't shred the disks |
| 17:24.32 | jelly-home | zzz: "new disks" fsvo new, eh |
| 17:24.39 | zzz | which is another issue in itself, but outside the scope of my issue |
| 17:25.04 | jelly-home | are they like Hetzner, where there's no way in hell you're going to get new disks |
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| 17:25.12 | valdyn | zzz: the partition type hardly ever matters, except to show humans what a disk is meant for |
| 17:25.19 | zzz | yeah |
| 17:25.24 | zzz | @ jelly-home |
| 17:25.42 | zzz | they just take a disk from cancelled customers and plug it in |
| 17:25.52 | zzz | gotta zero it and shred it yourself |
| 17:25.57 | petn-randall | jelly-home: That's why I run LUKS on the Hetzner machine, and open it on boot through dropbear. |
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| 17:26.02 | Nohus | Hello, could someone point me where should I seek help after I updated my Debian Testing and suddenly things don't work, some apps don't start so I can't even open a file manager, Chrome tabs crash for no reason and generally my computer is not very usable. How do I find out what happened, I don't know where to start. |
| 17:26.20 | petn-randall | jelly-home: Data on that machine is too important to trust the grunts there to wipe any defect disks ... |
| 17:26.23 | valdyn | Nohus: #debian-next |
| 17:26.27 | mechanicalduck | hi again |
| 17:26.36 | Nohus | valdyn: Nohus #debian-next Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited |
| 17:26.44 | valdyn | Nohus: on oftc |
| 17:27.00 | mechanicalduck | So how can I find out what debian/rules.gen was passed to for the current linux kernel I use? (wheezy linux kernel 3.2)? |
| 17:27.21 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: strictly you cant |
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| 17:27.41 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: maybe apt-get source will work though |
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| 17:29.00 | petn-randall | Nohus: #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 17:29.37 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: right, I got the linux kernel source and now I want to rebuild it with the same options the kernel was built I am using now: https://packages.debian.org/de/wheezy/linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 17:29.51 | Nohus | petn-randall: Oh, thanks. |
| 17:29.52 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: why are you doing this? |
| 17:30.06 | zzz | dat grsec |
| 17:30.08 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: the build config is in /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 17:30.12 | mechanicalduck | ah |
| 17:30.14 | mechanicalduck | thank you! |
| 17:30.31 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: I patch the kernel with overlayfs support. |
| 17:31.41 | mechanicalduck | whoa, the kernel config got 5658 lines. |
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| 17:31.59 | mechanicalduck | Can I feed that file back to the build process? So that it is now rebuild using that very file for the options? |
| 17:32.21 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: how are you building the kernel? |
| 17:32.52 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: I pulled the source with apt-get source linux |
| 17:33.01 | mechanicalduck | I got directory linux-3.14.15 |
| 17:33.12 | mechanicalduck | I added the patch using quilt, dch for a new debian package release. |
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| 17:33.19 | mechanicalduck | Now I want to build it using that option file. |
| 17:33.32 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: of course, but i asked how you build |
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| 17:34.08 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: single machine |
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| 17:34.21 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: Can I reuse an existing kernel binary / speedup the compilation? |
| 17:34.27 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: "make", or "make deb-pkg" or "buildme" |
| 17:34.36 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: no |
| 17:34.40 | mechanicalduck | and all of them would accept that kernel build option file? |
| 17:34.49 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: i asked how you build |
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| 17:34.57 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: some of them wouldnt work at all |
| 17:35.05 | jelly-home | zzz: so... you get data from someone else available?? |
| 17:35.14 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: I usually build them using cowbuilder or debuild command. |
| 17:35.21 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: i see |
| 17:35.23 | jelly-home | zzz: that's somewhat fuckin horrible |
| 17:35.29 | aristea | While trying the migration from 32 to 64 bit Debian, I'm stuck at a situation where I have unmet dependencies, that can't be resolved with apt-get -f install. The error is related with libc6. I dont know what kind of info would help you to debug this. Any clues appreciated. |
| 17:35.40 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: But I haven't build a kernel yet and I somehow think cowbuilder would slow it down? |
| 17:35.46 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: then i dont know if this will work, but it probably should: cp /boot/config-whatever kerneldir/.config ; make oldconfig |
| 17:35.55 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: ah |
| 17:35.55 | zzz | jelly-home: i'm aware :( |
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| 17:36.03 | zzz | sometimes you find some neat stuff tho |
| 17:36.07 | zzz | :) |
| 17:36.10 | jelly-home | I bet |
| 17:36.15 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: More processor cores = faster build? And more ram is also good? |
| 17:36.26 | mechanicalduck | I ask because it is a virtual machine and I can assign resources to it. |
| 17:36.34 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: kernel build take a while, even more so since debian builds all kinds of drivers for all kinds of machines |
| 17:36.57 | mechanicalduck | valdyn: so even when I build for amd64, it would still build all kinds of drivers? |
| 17:37.18 | centrx | mechanicalduck, kernel build is very CPU-intensive and will happily use a fair amount of RAM too |
| 17:37.24 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: i dont really know what you need for fast kernel building, i have alot of everything |
| 17:37.35 | mechanicalduck | OK, so many cores, memory, alright |
| 17:37.40 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: im sure kernel builds are cpu bound with much ram and an ssd |
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| 17:38.04 | jelly-home | zzz: can you disclose the provider so I never have to deal with them |
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| 17:38.20 | mechanicalduck | When I build normal packages I enable multicore support in gcc, can I do this for the kernel build, too? Or it is too delicate? |
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| 17:38.37 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: you should google this stuff |
| 17:38.56 | zzz | i don't know if it's me specifically or everyone |
| 17:39.01 | valdyn | mechanicalduck: its off topic and im sure someone wrote this up more nicely than i can do right now |
| 17:39.05 | zzz | but every time i've had a new drive put in |
| 17:39.12 | zzz | i had to wipe it myself |
| 17:39.18 | zzz | but phoenixnap |
| 17:39.37 | jelly-home | thanks |
| 17:39.41 | valdyn | ( i dont even know about gcc multicore support, its probably pointless ) |
| 17:39.48 | valdyn | ( or doesnt exist ) |
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| 17:40.14 | Mousey | ( or runs on windows ) |
| 17:40.23 | jelly-home | mechanicalduck: make -jXXX works with kernel builds fairly well |
| 17:40.27 | zzz | mechanicalduck: you can compile faster with make -j# |
| 17:40.31 | zzz | lol jelly-home |
| 17:40.49 | zzz | beat me to it |
| 17:41.38 | mechanicalduck | thanks! |
| 17:41.42 | mechanicalduck | I will try it out now. |
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| 17:43.19 | jelly-home | mechanicalduck: also, if you give dpkg-buildpackage a -j# parameter it will try to pass that over to debian source |
| 17:43.53 | mechanicalduck | jelly-home: ah, this is even better |
| 17:44.02 | mechanicalduck | jelly-home: it is the same as running make directly? |
| 17:44.48 | jelly-home | mechanicalduck: dpkg-buildpackage is only applicable to building .debs from debian source packages. |
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| 17:45.46 | mechanicalduck | jelly-home: yes, I use a source package |
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| 17:46.17 | _Sayf | Ohai ! |
| 17:46.23 | shay_shay | aristea: are you following this? https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading |
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| 18:05.38 | gribouille | hi |
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| 18:07.19 | gribouille | I have a set of directories containing source code. each directory has a debien subdirectory. what tool can I use to install a package and its dependencies? |
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| 18:07.52 | jhutchins | gribouille: Your question seems unrelated to your premise. |
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| 18:08.10 | gribouille | jhutchins, what do you mean? |
| 18:08.22 | jelly-home | gribouille: each of those directories is likely a debian source tree. What's your real goal? How did you obtain those trees? |
| 18:08.39 | gribouille | jelly-home, I created them myself |
| 18:08.50 | jelly-home | gribouille: did you also create .dsc files? |
| 18:08.58 | gribouille | jelly-home, no |
| 18:09.14 | jelly-home | gribouille: how did you create the contents of debian/ subdir? |
| 18:09.31 | gribouille | jelly-home, with tools such as dh_make |
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| 18:09.56 | jelly-home | gribouille: so, what exactly is the problem? |
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| 18:10.29 | gribouille | jelly-home, I want to be able to install any package with its dependancies |
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| 18:10.51 | jelly-home | gribouille: did you create resulting .deb binary packages? |
| 18:11.18 | MY123 | gribouille: You should edit debian/control for depends. |
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| 18:12.05 | gribouille | jelly-home, yes |
| 18:12.12 | gribouille | MY123, I did it |
| 18:12.25 | MY123 | I also recommend adding: Breaks: systemd :P |
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| 18:13.09 | jelly-home | gribouille: create a repository with all the .deb using eg. reprepro, and add that repository to your sources.list |
| 18:13.11 | gribouille | I need a tool that tells me the dependencies I have to install to install a given package |
| 18:13.28 | jelly-home | !tell gribouille about reprepro |
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| 18:14.13 | jelly-home | then you'll be able to install them the usual way with aptitude or apt-get or whatever |
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| 18:14.49 | arcke | im prepared to install proprietary/unchecked software in sandboxed accounts, what I am not prepared to do is give proprietary/unchecked installers/applications root rights on my machine, sucks that this makes unusable almost all games on linux |
| 18:14.50 | jelly-home | MY123: please don't spew random anti-systemd nonsense |
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| 18:16.40 | gribouille | isn't there a tool that takes several debian/control files and that gives the dependency relationships bethween them? |
| 18:16.56 | abrotman | gribouille: like apt? :) |
| 18:17.14 | jelly-home | ^^ |
| 18:17.25 | gribouille | abrotman, yes |
| 18:17.33 | zzz | lol |
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| 18:18.09 | zzz | is there any .d like file i can fill in to hold packages like i would with apt-mark ? |
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| 18:20.01 | jelly-home | zzz: you can simulate the behavior with apt-preferences but that doesn't go into the same database apt-mark and aptitude use |
| 18:21.48 | gribouille | are there tools to analyze debian/control files? |
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| 18:23.17 | jelly-home | gribouille: it's like this: package dependencies are a property of binary packages. debian/control is really a template more often than not, to be filled in by dh-shlibdeps and similar |
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| 18:26.14 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Having encountered more dependency hell building from source than I ever did with rpm or dpkg, I don't think binaries are to blame. |
| 18:26.40 | jhutchins | Dependency hell is a function of modular code. |
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| 18:33.49 | troulouliou_dev | hi i need to download the source of a package with apt-get source apply a patch ; make deb and install it; is there a good tuto somewhere for this task ? |
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| 18:34.13 | jelly-home | troulouliou_dev: there's this recipe to read, /msg dpkg package rebuild |
| 18:34.27 | troulouliou_dev | jelly-home, nice thanks |
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| 18:35.08 | jelly-home | fail! |
| 18:35.29 | MasterPiece | Who worked with "git build package"? |
| 18:35.30 | sysvalve | troulouliou_dev: no spaces before the slash |
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| 18:57.23 | witnes | Hello, is there a way to find the binary of a file that you execute through GUI menus? I only know to use locate, which doesnt work if the binary |
| 18:57.24 | witnes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:59.11 | peterrooney | witnes: depends on the particulars of the GUI. |
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| 19:00.19 | witnes | thanks peterrooney, I tried to right click, just did the same as a left click. What do you do when you've got same problem? |
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| 19:04.32 | peterrooney | witnes: Again, that depends on the particulars of the GUI. Some are very straightforward, others require digging. |
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| 19:05.04 | witnes | Okay, thanks for your help. I'll have a look into gnome. |
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| 19:11.34 | kattming | does anyone here use awesome or i3 or something similar on a laptop? If so, what do you use for network management? |
| 19:12.33 | centrx | kattming, I use wicd-gtk with openbox |
| 19:13.06 | cynicallemon | wicd-curses is a good alternative interface |
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| 19:13.27 | kattming | nm-applet doesn't seem to play nice with tiling wms, and it has a ton of gnome dependencies |
| 19:13.38 | kattming | I suppose I'll give wicd a try, thanks for the suggestions! |
| 19:13.45 | cynicallemon | but why bother with any network management? |
| 19:14.15 | kattming | cynicallemon: when I go to class I need to be able to connect to the internet... |
| 19:14.17 | cynicallemon | wireless is easy enough to configure in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:15.14 | b-tag | Guys when I execute apt-get update, I get quite a few "Ign" statements. Is that normal? |
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| 19:15.34 | cynicallemon | kattming:yeah if your using multiple access points during the then it might pay to use some sort of manager |
| 19:16.45 | jhutchins | b-tag: Yes, it means there's nothing new there. |
| 19:16.47 | cynicallemon | b-tag: usually its fine if the update completes |
| 19:17.59 | Busserl | kattming: My friend connects via CLI in class. |
| 19:18.02 | b-tag | cynicallemon, and by "update completes" you mean... |
| 19:18.57 | cynicallemon | b-tag: well i mean completes normally without and errors indicated when the update has finished |
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| 19:19.11 | b-tag | oh okay, ty :)\ |
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| 19:23.57 | Anuska | Hi, question: how i apply a .diff on other file? |
| 19:25.01 | threadlock | Greetings, answer: man patch |
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| 19:25.24 | Anuska | thanks |
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| 19:30.33 | bbtech | Does this look like a safe install (installing teamviewer): http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fF3cq6fJ |
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| 19:32.04 | centrx | bbtech, Looks okay. Teamviewer is not free and it just requires i386 |
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| 19:32.53 | bbtech | centrx, ok thanks! |
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| 20:05.49 | Otyugh | anyone succeeded to make nginx work with fcgiwrap here ? |
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| 20:11.43 | mechanicalduck | I am so excited, I will rebuild a linux kernel from source today. |
| 20:11.55 | mechanicalduck | So how long does this take usually? 2 hours? 10 hours? |
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| 20:12.15 | mechanicalduck | 8 core amd64 and lots of memory, how much time would this take? |
| 20:12.21 | centrx | half hour? |
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| 20:12.47 | rryoumaa | stock not working? |
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| 20:14.36 | Busserl | mechanicalduck: you can pass an options to compile with multiple cores I think. |
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| 20:20.51 | sinonick | does anyone know which packages enable xmpp video for kde-telepathy? |
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| 20:26.20 | koshie | Hey |
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| 20:26.55 | mechanicalduck | Busserl: oh |
| 20:27.01 | mechanicalduck | Busserl: you remembered me, that's nice |
| 20:27.46 | koshie | I'm using testing and I've a problem to update the path of java with update-alternatives --config java, it said there is only one alternative which is openjdk, I've openjdk installed on my system beside java (default-jre package). I can't go on #debian-next because I need to be invited. |
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| 20:28.12 | koshie | Have you an idea please? |
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| 20:29.00 | jhutchins | koshie: debian-next is not on freenode.net, it is on oftc.net |
| 20:29.17 | jhutchins | I really wish they'd change that bounce message |
| 20:29.24 | koshie | Yeah sorry I saw that a minute ago. |
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| 20:29.26 | koshie | I'm connecting ;) |
| 20:29.28 | koshie | Thanks. |
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| 20:43.19 | Lildirt | Has anyone here ever had experience with installing AMD's drivers on Debian Wheezy? |
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| 20:45.04 | thingfish | Lildirt: no, I just use the ones from non-free. |
| 20:45.11 | Lildirt | Hm. |
| 20:45.21 | Lildirt | I installed them and now Debian doesn't boot at all. |
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| 20:45.43 | thingfish | which ones, the drivers from AMD's website? |
| 20:45.49 | thingfish | Or the non-free Debian ones? |
| 20:46.13 | Lildirt | The one from AMD's website. |
| 20:46.59 | Lildirt | Debian just stops loading whenever xorg is meant to load. There's just a blinking cursor in the top left. |
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| 20:48.07 | thingfish | Wow, not good. |
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| 20:48.20 | Lildirt | Yeah, Debian is basically unusable outside of Rescue. |
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| 20:49.43 | Lildirt | I believe pfsense_rookie was with me on this yesterday. |
| 20:49.50 | Lildirt | OH MY GOD I ACTUALLY GOT IT TO LOAD |
| 20:49.51 | Lildirt | OH MY GOD |
| 20:49.53 | Lildirt | WHAT IS THIS |
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| 20:50.14 | Lildirt | Literally uninstalled everything relating to ATI and it magically loads. |
| 20:50.16 | Lildirt | Okay Debian. |
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| 20:55.52 | Lildirt | Well, I'm still stuck with a derpy Gnome :l |
| 20:56.27 | thingfish | Lildirt: why can't you install the drivers from non-free? |
| 20:56.42 | Lildirt | I installed firmware-linux-nonfree, but Gnome still isn't functioning properly. |
| 20:56.56 | thingfish | you want fglrx-driver |
| 20:57.12 | Lildirt | Do I need to remove firmware-linux-nonfree? |
| 20:57.18 | Lildirt | Or keep it? |
| 20:57.25 | thingfish | it will tell you, I don't know |
| 20:57.28 | jhutchins | Lildirt: Did you have the option to switch to the console with Ctrl-Alt-F1? |
| 20:57.45 | Lildirt | jhutchins: I'm back in Gnome now, fortunately, but it's still broken. |
| 20:58.06 | Lildirt | Also, thingfish, I installed the fglrx-driver and it CAUSED this issue. |
| 20:58.13 | Lildirt | As in the issue with Gnome not booting anymore. |
| 20:58.19 | Lildirt | I removed it and it's working fine. |
| 20:58.39 | thingfish | oh I thought you were installing the ones from AMD's website and that's what caused the problem |
| 20:59.26 | Lildirt | No. |
| 20:59.29 | sicretor_ | Can somebody tell me which Kernel version debian 7.6 is using? |
| 20:59.30 | Lildirt | They flat-out didn't work at all. |
| 20:59.41 | Lildirt | I tried them. |
| 21:00.04 | thingfish | Do you have a really new card? |
| 21:00.28 | Lildirt | I have an AMD Radeon HD 7950. |
| 21:00.33 | Lildirt | So it's somewhat recent. |
| 21:00.52 | thingfish | but not cutting edge |
| 21:00.55 | Lildirt | No. |
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| 21:01.13 | Lildirt | "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Tahiti PR0 [Radeon HD 7950]" |
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| 21:01.50 | thingfish | when you installed the non-free drivers (fglrx-driver) did you do "aticonfig --initial" afterwards? |
| 21:02.41 | Lildirt | That might explain a lot. |
| 21:02.54 | Lildirt | Think I'll give that a shot. |
| 21:02.56 | Lildirt | x.x |
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| 21:05.32 | Lildirt | Is that all I have to run, aticonfig --initial? ._. |
| 21:05.36 | thingfish | yes |
| 21:05.54 | Lildirt | Well, time to find out! |
| 21:05.59 | thingfish | good luck! |
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| 21:07.22 | Lildirt | Woah, it worked. |
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| 21:07.29 | thingfish | sweet |
| 21:07.35 | Lildirt | Except it's only recognizing three of my monitors. |
| 21:08.08 | Lildirt | Oh god yeah it's definitely working now. |
| 21:08.19 | Lildirt | Now there's actually icons on my desktop. |
| 21:08.22 | thingfish | cool |
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| 21:09.52 | Lildirt | Can't thank you enough, I can't believe I missed that dialog on installing the driver last time. |
| 21:09.53 | Lildirt | <3 |
| 21:10.21 | thingfish | no problemo |
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| 21:28.25 | millican | Is there a way to install nvidia drivers on Wheezy? I've had two weeks of frustration. |
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| 21:29.17 | comradekingu | millican: blacklist noveau and install nvidia-glx from what i remember |
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| 21:30.53 | sarnex | hi, is there a way to automate changing the version of a debian source directory? i am using dch -v `cat name` but it always opens the editor and wants a reason, and dch -i "Reason" -v `cat name` doesnt work |
| 21:31.16 | millican | Thanks comradekingu. That's what I did most recently after a fresh re-install. I still get the blinking cursor on a black screen. |
| 21:32.15 | jhutchins | !nvidia |
| 21:32.16 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 21:33.47 | millican | ok |
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| 21:41.09 | Lildirt | Okay, I have another issue. |
| 21:41.13 | Lildirt | I can't configure my monitors at all x.x |
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| 21:48.05 | phy1729 | Is there a syste-wide file for pre-bashrc, login shell only execution? |
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| 21:48.52 | phy1729 | like /etc/zsh/zprofile but bash not zsh |
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| 21:50.21 | TJ- | phy1729: "/etc/bash.bashrc", "/etc/profile" ? |
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| 21:51.49 | phy1729 | profile is executed before /etc/bash.bashrc and only on interactive login shells right? |
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| 21:53.28 | TJ- | phy1729: "man bash" and "/^INVOCATION" |
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| 21:54.37 | phy1729 | ok |
| 21:54.46 | Lildirt | Has anyone had success configuring four monitors on Debian Wheezy? ._. |
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| 22:38.20 | piranha93 | hi |
| 22:38.29 | piranha93 | i connect my pc on the tv by hdmi |
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| 22:39.25 | piranha93 | I send the video but no audio |
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| 22:39.46 | piranha93 | how can I do? |
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| 22:42.05 | Lildirt | Still having some issues with my 4-monitor setup, can't seem to configure them at all. Anyone? |
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| 23:17.55 | _Sayf | #fsf and #debian join forces to help free software users find the hardware they need. https://u.fsf.org/12r h-node > http://h-node.org |
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| 23:21.27 | OldParr | i followed the instructions in https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard#Keyboard_configuration carefully but it does not matters how many times i configure when i restart all the configurations are lost |
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| 23:38.05 | OldParr | i followed the instructions in https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard#Keyboard_configuration carefully but it does not matters how many times i configure the keyboard, when i restart all the configurations are lost, when i give the command udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change it fixes the keyboard without any previous configuration |
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| 23:50.10 | mechanicalduck | hi again. |
| 23:50.24 | mechanicalduck | So I patched source from linux kernel debian package. |
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| 23:53.58 | centrx | How's it going |
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| 23:59.52 | mechanicalduck | centrx: ah, well, it wants to get rid of debian/ directory and .config |
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