| 00:00.11 | mechanicalduck | centrx: I read this is OK, one would have to move those out of the kernel dir / delete them. |
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| 00:00.26 | mechanicalduck | But this also means that 1) no binary debian package is built and 2) .config is not used. |
| 00:00.34 | mechanicalduck | debuild doesn't like it and make, too. |
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| 00:00.56 | mechanicalduck | It suggests to run make mrproper (funny name), which cleans out debian/ and .config. |
| 00:01.25 | centrx | Can't you build the kernel with dpkg-buildpackage after you apply the package? |
| 00:01.42 | centrx | Is building the kernel Debian package so much different than another Debian package? |
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| 00:02.05 | mechanicalduck | interesting |
| 00:02.10 | mechanicalduck | the command is working now |
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| 00:06.37 | mechanicalduck | Ah, it is so wicked when the happily buzzing disk suddenly stops (which means it aborted because of some damn issue). |
| 00:06.40 | mechanicalduck | But now it seems to run. |
| 00:06.54 | mechanicalduck | OK, I will let that thing run in background, let's see. |
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| 00:07.15 | mechanicalduck | How can I ensure it uses the .config file? |
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| 00:15.23 | mechanicalduck | centrx: ^ |
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| 00:16.28 | centrx | mechanicalduck, I don't know, vanilla kernel compile uses it automatically |
| 00:17.39 | mechanicalduck | this is good |
| 00:17.42 | mechanicalduck | so it uses .config |
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| 00:29.29 | cafuego | mechanicalduck: use 'make-kpkg', possibly after 'make oldconfig' so you get prompted for any new options that may not be set yet in the old .config file. |
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| 00:32.11 | mechanicalduck | cafuego: ah, thanks |
| 00:32.40 | cafuego | make-kpkg will spit out .deb files with your new kernel and headers :-) |
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| 00:40.25 | mechanicalduck | cafuego: sorry, I didn't get your last message, please repost it (damn the irc client for this). |
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| 00:40.35 | cafuego | make-kpkg will spit out .deb files with your new kernel and headers :-) |
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| 00:44.43 | mechanicalduck | this is good |
| 00:45.04 | mechanicalduck | cafuego: and now the million dollar question: Can I use cowbuilder for building it (as I do this with other packages)? |
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| 00:48.00 | cafuego | mechanicalduck: maybe |
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| 00:48.19 | cafuego | mechanicalduck: either way; I have no idea. |
| 00:49.21 | mechanicalduck | cafuego: Because I want that disposable clean build system for building the kernel. |
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| 00:59.05 | Bartleby | If I've got another install on another partition, and I want to change which grub loads, what command do I have to run? |
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| 00:59.42 | zvz | has anyone here had to deal with their university's network requiring "antivirus software" to be installed? |
| 00:59.52 | Bartleby | I know I did it once, but I forgot the command, and when I search google now all I get is tutorials on how to dual boot windows :-/ |
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| 01:03.34 | Bartleby | zvz: That's horrible, sorry. |
| 01:05.33 | Bartleby | Is that USC by any chance? |
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| 01:05.51 | zvz | no, a mid sized state school in New England |
| 01:05.53 | zvz | The new NAC system will use a connection agent, a small program, which will be installed on your computer at the time of |
| 01:05.56 | zvz | your first connection to the upgraded âSalemStateâ network on September 22nd, or after. |
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| 01:06.24 | zvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.27 | zvz | date, you will not be able to connect to the âSalemStateâ network. Instead you will be placed into a quarantined area â |
| 01:06.30 | zvz | and provided links to assist you with updating, or downloading an AntiVirus program, if you donât have one currently â |
| 01:06.33 | zvz | argh, I'm so sorry |
| 01:06.41 | zvz | I didn't mean for that to be pasted through that way. |
| 01:06.45 | zvz | sorry, everyone |
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| 01:07.41 | seeker61 | where is a good room to discuss mint mate errors |
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| 01:08.26 | Bartleby | Probably #linuxmint |
| 01:08.39 | seeker61 | ok thanks Bartleby |
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| 01:12.00 | Bartleby | zvz: Is it a new policy? Maybe if you talk to IT somewhere, or send someone an angry email, they can build in some sort of exception? |
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| 01:13.03 | zvz | Bartleby: yeah, it starts later this month. my laptops have dealt fine with the previous system which apparently requires some kind of third-party certificate program for Windows and Mac though |
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| 01:13.42 | seeker61 | Bartleby: linuxmint is invite only |
| 01:13.44 | zvz | I will definitely let them know what I think either way, I just think I'll come off as some angry weird guy who insists on being difficult, honestly. |
| 01:13.46 | future28 | Hello all. I have an atheros wifi card that works occasionally. This is the dmesg log: http://paste.debian.net/119981/ |
| 01:13.52 | Bartleby | zvz: No one in the CS departments is throwing a hissy fit? |
| 01:13.57 | future28 | Could anyone help me diagnose this issue? |
| 01:14.35 | centrx | zvz, If you go talk to the people in the IT department, they may be able to give you an exception |
| 01:14.42 | centrx | zvz, You give them your MAC address |
| 01:14.56 | zvz | zvz: I'm not involved at all in the CS department so I don't know. honestly the CS department is small and seems like kind of a joke. the strongest STEM here is bio and chemistry. |
| 01:15.34 | zvz | centrx: I'll try that, thanks. I should try to get to know someone there a bit and see if they could just do that. |
| 01:16.19 | zvz | thanks and sorry for bitching |
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| 01:19.10 | future28 | Elaborating on my wifi issue: Sometimes I switch my laptop on and the card is not found at all. Other times it will work for say 10 mins and then it will stop working and dmesg is flooded with the entries I posted in the paste above |
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| 01:21.09 | drumr | i installed a machine with jessie. i did seperate partitions for usr, home, etc |
| 01:21.27 | drumr | this was no such a good idea. irs there a way to merge the paritions or am i better off reinstalling |
| 01:23.47 | centrx | drumr, If you can merge partitions, the tool is "parted" or "gparted" |
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| 01:25.30 | drumr | thanks. yes i just wanted to make sure if i was smart to do it that way |
| 01:25.43 | future28 | drumr: You could copy all of the partitions into one (eg /) and then resize / |
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| 01:26.39 | centrx | ^ that sounds like the preferred method |
| 01:29.16 | future28 | drumr: Found this on google: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/355533/easiest-way-to-merge-partitions-under-debian-unix |
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| 01:39.30 | DoKT0R | anybody use BHS debian ?? |
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| 01:39.43 | drumr | thanks future28 |
| 01:39.59 | drumr | and centrx |
| 01:40.14 | drumr | problem is the largest partition is assigned to /home |
| 01:40.25 | drumr | so there may be an issue but ill check that out |
| 01:40.29 | future28 | Will you be able to fit it all into / ? |
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| 01:46.01 | avshalom | ,anyone |
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| 01:48.58 | themill | qmr: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20140813 |
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| 01:58.04 | Lildirt | When I install fglrx-driver and firmware-linux-nonfree, shouldn't AMD's Catalyst Control Center come up? |
| 01:58.41 | Lildirt | So I've heard anyways. |
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| 02:31.51 | Bartleby | If I've got another install on another partition, and I want to change which grub loads, what command do I have to run? |
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| 02:37.00 | dvs | Bartleby: grub-install ? |
| 02:38.14 | Bartleby | Thanks |
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| 02:45.54 | sterns_ | This issue is with Chromium OS. The system is running from USB flash drive. When running on battery, the system will suspend, but on resume the USB drive is unavailable. I would like to get dmesg info to see what's happening. I tried to setup ramdisk in tmpfs, but when I try to run a command from there I get a "bus error". Anyone have any suggestions for additional troubleshooting steps? |
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| 02:46.42 | sterns_ | I'm happy to say that Wheezy runs great on this same Latitude D430 system. |
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| 03:02.21 | avshalom | never experienced such crash-tastic behavior as iceweasel on jessie |
| 03:03.12 | shay_shay | hello |
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| 03:08.54 | pfsense_rookie | Lildirt, if you are still around... there should be a package named fglrx-control. Last that I remember it was not a dependency of fglrx-driver so you have to install it manually as well. I hope everything is going better today. I have to run off now. |
| 03:09.21 | Lildirt | Of course he leaves the second I get back. |
| 03:09.22 | Lildirt | Fuuuu. |
| 03:09.53 | Lildirt | Is there like an offline messaging thing? |
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| 03:11.16 | Enochian | i dunno... does freenode have memoserv? |
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| 03:12.39 | afidegnum | hello, anyone know how to configure bitcoin to run directory by adding into the environment varilable? |
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| 03:16.29 | shay_shay | SynrG: hey do you remember the other day you were helping me with apt-get script, you said something about a --verbose option somewhere? |
| 03:17.05 | shay_shay | i'm done with my script now except i'm back to the original problem where its diffucult to test it because apt-get hides everything |
| 03:17.36 | andres833 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.51 | igi | andres833: apt-cache show php-fpm ? |
| 03:19.04 | andres833 | igi, thanks |
| 03:19.16 | Lildirt | Can someone explain why this is happening? http://gyazo.com/569911312740e4479d293cb79c2e9236 |
| 03:19.28 | Lildirt | I have three monitors and each time I try to unmirror them, that happens. |
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| 03:20.33 | cafuego | Enochian: it does, but only for reg'd nicks. |
| 03:20.47 | cafuego | Lildirt: /msg memoserv help |
| 03:21.00 | Lildirt | Uh.. |
| 03:21.22 | Enochian | thanks, cafuego. got some other stuff going. |
| 03:21.23 | Lildirt | Oh, I see. Thank you. |
| 03:21.30 | cafuego | :-) |
| 03:21.49 | andres833 | igi, thanks but i talk about php-fpm statis in the server connection etc |
| 03:21.51 | Enochian | Lildirt: hope that helps. memoserv is good for messanging someone who's offline |
| 03:22.15 | cafuego | Lildirt: ... but it sort of only works if they registered their handle with nickserv. |
| 03:22.23 | Enochian | ^ |
| 03:24.55 | Lildirt | Alrighty. |
| 03:24.59 | Lildirt | Now that that's done |
| 03:25.13 | Lildirt | I'm guessing absolutely no one has had trouble with multimonitor setups here, ._. |
| 03:25.33 | Lildirt | (that or multimonitors are just impossible in Debian) |
| 03:25.36 | igi | andres833: oops, i see. Sorry that i can't help you. |
| 03:25.51 | cafuego | Lildirt: Used to work fine back when |
| 03:26.15 | cafuego | Lildirt: still works fine now actually, but not using debian on my desktop anymore :-/ |
| 03:26.37 | Lildirt | asdf |
| 03:26.59 | Lildirt | Well, uh, http://gyazo.com/569911312740e4479d293cb79c2e9236 , if you haven't seen it. |
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| 03:28.19 | cafuego | Lildirt: Back when I used xinerama, it was a matter of hand tweaking displays and their modes and their placements in xorg.conf, no idea what that dialog is whining about. |
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| 03:29.26 | Lildirt | Think I need to go throw a chair out the window then. |
| 03:30.47 | Lildirt | There's also "Failed to apply configuration: %s" "GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code3: required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(5760, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)" |
| 03:30.58 | Lildirt | Basically the same error though. |
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| 03:31.51 | cafuego | what's your video card? |
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| 03:33.14 | Lildirt | VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950] |
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| 03:33.28 | cafuego | using the catalyst drivers? |
| 03:33.36 | Lildirt | Installed firmware-linux-nonfree and fglrx-driver. |
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| 03:34.10 | cafuego | you'll want to use the AMD control panel then, not the default display one |
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| 03:34.20 | Lildirt | It's not there, that's the problem. |
| 03:34.32 | Lildirt | Wow. |
| 03:34.34 | Lildirt | Nevermind. |
| 03:34.40 | Lildirt | It wasn't in system settings |
| 03:34.54 | cafuego | fglrx-control |
| 03:35.04 | Lildirt | Just installed that like 10 mins ago. |
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| 03:35.57 | cafuego | :-/ |
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| 03:36.14 | Lildirt | I mean, I found it (now I just need to launch it as super-user) |
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| 03:36.31 | Lildirt | Think pfsense_rookie was onto something with fglrx-control because it wasn't there before I rebooted. |
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| 03:37.40 | Lildirt | Well, while I'm thinking about it, is there any way to change the Debian background on the login screen? xD |
| 03:37.50 | cafuego | of course there is |
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| 03:40.09 | Lildirt | Was just curious if it was possible, don't worry :p |
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| 03:46.11 | cafuego | sheesh, not doing bbq for all you you lot |
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| 04:01.06 | Lildirt | It seems I can't access a terminal anymore lol |
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| 04:24.01 | FreeNow | can someone guide me on my switch between desktop environments? |
| 04:24.12 | FreeNow | do I install the other one and then remove the existing one |
| 04:24.18 | FreeNow | or do I remove first then install |
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| 04:26.13 | civillian | FreeNow: I would keep them both at the same time, you can choose which one you want at GDM login |
| 04:26.45 | Shadow_7 | depends on how you start X. |
| 04:27.07 | Shadow_7 | with old school startx... you edit .xinitrc and that's about it |
| 04:27.22 | Shadow_7 | keeps them all installed if you want to flip flop |
| 04:27.42 | FreeNow | civillian oh ok, and I can assume GDM is installed and configured? |
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| 04:28.47 | Shadow_7 | some wm's (mildy different from de's) let you switch to other wm's via menu item |
| 04:28.48 | civillian | FreeNow: it's the default, if you just accepted the default X windows |
| 04:29.16 | FreeNow | civillian oh ok i probably did |
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| 04:30.49 | FreeNow | civillian ok i installed lxde now do I have to logout to switch? |
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| 04:38.51 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
| 04:39.09 | neilthereildeil | i am trying to install the unstable version of my graphics driver, because its the only one that worked |
| 04:39.28 | neilthereildeil | how can i install the unstable version of fglrx-driver? |
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| 04:44.34 | aFeijo | hello |
| 04:45.28 | aFeijo | I suspect that my server has IO problems, it runs with 2x 1TB HD drives, and a software RAID. I ran a dd command test, to /root it takes 20 mbps (quite slow), but to /var it takes good 120 mbps. If the IO is not the problem, what could be disrupting my MySQL performance? |
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| 04:50.08 | neilthereildeil | nay ideas how to install unstable packages? |
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| 04:53.07 | cinch | neilthereildeil, which debian version? |
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| 04:54.09 | cinch | neilthereildeil, you can do it with "apt pinning" https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
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| 05:03.32 | centrx | aFeijo, There are a lot of things that can affect DB performance |
| 05:04.05 | aFeijo | centrx, agreed, what should be the right steps for me to measure my MariaDB ? do you know? |
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| 05:04.59 | centrx | aFeijo, Usually it's related to the queries you are running, the indexes of the tables, how the data is structured |
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| 05:06.06 | aFeijo | centrx, the queries run fine, but the writing show problems. To create a simple table it takes over 0.5 seconds, that is a lot. I just erased a 80mb db, it toke near 1 minute. To restore a backup, it can take over 5 minutes. |
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| 05:06.41 | aFeijo | centrx, its a dedicated server with 8gb ram, the server is running with only 2gb ram right now. |
| 05:07.03 | centrx | aFeijo, There are a lot of MySQL/MariaDB config settings you can tweak |
| 05:07.14 | aFeijo | I try several tweaks :/ |
| 05:07.23 | centrx | aFeijo, If the DB is running properly, you can drop a db or table or truncate a table <instantly> |
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| 05:07.59 | centrx | aFeijo, queries read and write are supposed to be buffered, not dependent on disk, so that's one possible setting |
| 05:08.10 | aFeijo | hmmmm |
| 05:08.12 | centrx | aFeijo, but #mariadb or #mysql would know better |
| 05:08.32 | aFeijo | some time ago I try #mysql, they sense the problem was with IO, hehe |
| 05:08.40 | centrx | aFeijo, isn't software RAID notoriously slow? |
| 05:08.45 | aFeijo | I'll try again and gather better tech deails |
| 05:09.11 | aFeijo | centrx, no not necessarly, articles say that it takes quite low CPU, under 2% |
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| 05:09.26 | centrx | aFeijo, One technique is to put the DB on a different HD |
| 05:09.34 | kookiemonster2 | physical or virtual? |
| 05:09.34 | centrx | aFeijo, especially useful if your server is doing all sorts of other things |
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| 05:09.46 | aFeijo | centrx, I wonder if its safe to disable the RAID to test? |
| 05:10.04 | aFeijo | centrx, is a web dedicated server, running mostly Drupal 7 (php) |
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| 05:10.13 | aFeijo | kookiemonster2, my server? dedicated |
| 05:10.22 | aFeijo | kookiemonster2, *physical |
| 05:11.14 | kookiemonster2 | OK. dix you DD test it before perf pbs? |
| 05:11.23 | centrx | aFeijo, right so if your Drupal/PHP app is thrashing the disk for whatever reason, that could interfere with the DB |
| 05:11.34 | aFeijo | kookiemonster2, I did dd test, seems ok for the /var mount |
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| 05:12.11 | aFeijo | kookiemonster2, dd write speed for /var was 120mbps |
| 05:12.29 | kookiemonster2 | what are the /etc/fstab options? |
| 05:13.52 | aFeijo | /dev/md1 / ext4 errors=remount-ro,relatime 0 1 |
| 05:13.53 | aFeijo | /dev/md2 /var ext4 defaults,relatime 0 2 |
| 05:14.08 | aFeijo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:16.25 | kookiemonster2 | it's usually good to have dedicated partitions, both for data files ans log files |
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| 05:17.19 | aFeijo | kookiemonster2, too late for that :( I didn't know that... I will do that in the future |
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| 05:17.33 | neilthereildeil | also, how can i check whether or not hardware rendering is avaiable right now with my current graphics driver? |
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| 05:17.45 | kookiemonster2 | check also if MySQL ils fine with noatime on dedicated partitions. postgres is better this way |
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| 05:19.11 | kookiemonster2 | oh, oki. Maybe you know another box with the same provider that u can compare? |
| 05:20.07 | aFeijo | kookiemonster2, hmmm sadly no, and it would cost me $49 (a month) for the test. But if it proves successful, it would be a good way to fix. I transfer all my files and sites finishing the swap. But sound a bit harsh |
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| 05:20.54 | anyMoreHC | oh,my god |
| 05:21.19 | anyMoreHC | so many people here in this channelãã |
| 05:21.21 | cafuego | mysql is fine with noatime, though you might be better off actually adding a config (the defaults are not great and that's being kind) |
| 05:22.42 | aFeijo | anyMoreHC, isnt that awesome!? |
| 05:22.53 | cafuego | s/people/bots/ |
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| 05:23.15 | aFeijo | cafuego, hehe, I changed it a lot, didnt seem to help. But that was a few months ago, I should review it |
| 05:23.29 | cafuego | aFeijo: What storage engine are you using? |
| 05:23.51 | aFeijo | cafuego, innodb |
| 05:23.55 | kookiemonster2 | good luck ,have to go. bye. |
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| 05:24.13 | James_TR | stabs cafuego continuosly until he stops moving |
| 05:24.15 | cafuego | cool, that *definitely* needs configuration :-) |
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| 05:24.21 | cafuego | squirms |
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| 05:24.35 | James_TR | cafuego: i'm everywhere, including the #debian on OFTC |
| 05:24.38 | aFeijo | cafuego, you suspect that my innodb is bad configured? :D |
| 05:24.55 | cafuego | aFeijo: No, but out of the box on debian it's *not* configured at all. |
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| 05:25.16 | aFeijo | cafuego, can I pastebin my my.cnf file? |
| 05:25.16 | cafuego | aFeijo: and the defaults are pretty crap unless your server is a pentium 2 with 64MB of ram. |
| 05:25.20 | cafuego | aFeijo: sure |
| 05:25.55 | anyMoreHC | ... |
| 05:25.57 | James_TR | cafuego: debian's mysql defaults assume you're on a mega server with like, 10GB ram |
| 05:26.11 | aFeijo | cafuego, I'll get the file, might take a minute |
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| 05:26.31 | aFeijo | my server has 8gb ram, close enough to 10 lol |
| 05:26.31 | James_TR | and yeah, innodb is unconfigured |
| 05:26.54 | anyMoreHC | excuse me |
| 05:27.12 | cafuego | thinks he got home just in time |
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| 05:27.20 | anyMoreHC | but I really can not understand what you talking about.. |
| 05:27.49 | anyMoreHC | .... |
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| 05:28.09 | cafuego | James_TR: really? the default or the examples in the docs dir? |
| 05:28.26 | James_TR | the default |
| 05:28.29 | cafuego | James_TR: Then again, I've not run vanilla mysql mysql for a loong time. |
| 05:28.33 | James_TR | mmm |
| 05:28.36 | James_TR | mariadb ftw |
| 05:28.44 | cafuego | used to, percona now |
| 05:28.49 | James_TR | oh, mariadb's defaults are stupid |
| 05:28.52 | James_TR | :P |
| 05:29.08 | aFeijo | cafuego, http://pastebin.com/mHPXsU0s |
| 05:29.14 | James_TR | cafuego: i couldn't get percona's galera stuff to work |
| 05:29.24 | cafuego | James_TR: they're what debian used to have, it's not impossible i committed that at some pooint actually ;-) |
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| 05:29.35 | James_TR | :P |
| 05:29.52 | cafuego | James_TR: I could, until it broke. Not ready for my production I'm afraid (not needed either) |
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| 05:30.40 | James_TR | mariadb doesn't check the authenticity of ssl certs >.> |
| 05:30.54 | cafuego | aFeijo: Yeah, that doesn't look unreasonable for a 10G server that runs other stuff too... |
| 05:31.15 | cafuego | log file size is maybe a tad large |
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| 05:31.35 | aFeijo | see? my config isnt that bad... yet the performance is |
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| 05:32.23 | cafuego | your query cache limit is huge! |
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| 05:36.06 | aFeijo | cafuego, to what value should I change? |
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| 05:36.50 | cafuego | aFeijo: that depends on your queries; mine is set to 256K so it can cache a lot of small queries and single large queries don't kill the cache. |
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| 05:37.06 | cafuego | but i run a lot of small queries a lot more often than huge queries. |
| 05:37.11 | aFeijo | cafuego, I believe its often small queries |
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| 05:39.37 | aFeijo | cafuego, I changed it to 256K, ran a simple create table with 2 fields, toke 1.12 sec, lol |
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| 06:01.39 | cafuego | aFeijo: Ummm... CREATE TABLE queries don't returns results sets that get cached. |
| 06:02.21 | aFeijo | cafuego, right! it goes direct into the disk write, right? |
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| 06:07.17 | rocko3 | is debian linux kernel they use is it free like linux-libre? |
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| 06:10.35 | aFeijo | cafuego, htop shows high TIME+ for mysql, over 16h, I restarted that service 3 or 4 days ago. Is that a bad sign? |
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| 06:14.02 | razieliyo | hi |
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| 06:14.22 | razieliyo | I'm on 64 bits, and trying to install ia32-libs, I'm asked to delete xorg and lots of related packages |
| 06:14.27 | razieliyo | this is a fresh install |
| 06:14.38 | razieliyo | I also added testing repositories |
| 06:14.44 | razieliyo | with stable ones |
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| 06:15.09 | razieliyo | don't know if this is what is getting in my way, or just the try to install ia32-libs |
| 06:15.11 | razieliyo | any help? |
| 06:15.33 | phy1729 | !tell razieliyo about frankendebian |
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| 06:16.03 | razieliyo | lol |
| 06:16.06 | razieliyo | I can guess by the name |
| 06:16.32 | shay_shay | well frankensteins monster was just mistunderstood |
| 06:16.33 | razieliyo | phy1729, okay |
| 06:16.39 | razieliyo | I'll try it on my own |
| 06:16.50 | phy1729 | try sticking to one release |
| 06:17.00 | razieliyo | I just want to access testing packages |
| 06:17.05 | razieliyo | like latest gcc |
| 06:17.06 | phy1729 | shay_shay: if you say so, I have to read it this semester |
| 06:17.15 | phy1729 | razieliyo: why not backports? |
| 06:17.24 | jmcnaught | razieliyo: instead of installing ia32, use multiarch (which is newer and solves the same problem as ia32-lib a better way): https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
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| 06:19.54 | jmcnaught | razieliyo: some safer ways of using newer versions of software not available in wheezy-backports are to attempt to backport it yourself ("/msg dpkg ssb"), or to isolate it in a chroot, container or virtual machine |
| 06:20.00 | razieliyo | jmcnaught, thanks! I was already using that, thought I needed ia32-libs anyway |
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| 06:21.47 | Savemech_ | guys what is interactive configure network interface program in debian? like in installer? |
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| 06:23.15 | aFeijo | 3 am here... time to rest, will continue digging this tomorrow. Thanks for those that helped |
| 06:23.42 | jmcnaught | Savemech: i think that's just part of the installer. what kind of network are you trying to connect to? are you using wheezy? |
| 06:23.42 | razieliyo | rest? what's that? |
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| 06:28.16 | deanrock0 | oh nevermind, i see that debian doesnt support upstart by default |
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| 06:35.52 | vikstrous | Hey guys, I'm on debian 7.6 (Linux testnet.txbits.com 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux) and when I install nginx from apt it looks like ocsp stapling is not enabled because I get `unknown directive "ssl_stapling"` |
| 06:36.04 | vikstrous | what's up with that? is this intentional? |
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| 06:37.47 | vikstrous | to be more specific⦠this is on DigitalOcean's version of debian⦠but I doubt it matters in this case |
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| 06:42.18 | vikstrous | nevermind |
| 06:42.24 | vikstrous | this version of nginx is just old |
| 06:42.27 | vikstrous | :( |
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| 06:46.57 | razieliyo | huh, bad thing steam is not on wheezy |
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| 06:47.50 | razieliyo | I'll just reinstall the entire system with jessie, that way I kill two birds with one stone |
| 06:48.41 | razieliyo | I guess an aptitude upgrade changing wheezy to jessie on sources.list is bad, even on a fresh install |
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| 07:02.22 | Savemech | jmcnaught, sorry my isp goes bad :D |
| 07:02.36 | Savemech | jmcnaught, its deb7, and idk where i did wrong, if i use dhclient eth0 it stucks and didnt bring my network interfaces to live, but if i do ifconfig 192.xxx.x.x. netmask 255.255.255.0 and then route add def gw 192.168.0.1 and network work fine |
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| 07:06.07 | nea1 | hi could it be that openssl 1.0.1i does no longer support aes-256-xts via 'openssl enc -e [...]'? because sine that update i have some errors in an script using that |
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| 07:16.26 | nea1 | older versions of openssl do it whichout problems >.< |
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| 07:17.30 | nea1 | and openssl enc --help shows it to (aes-256-xts & -gcm is available too, but doesn't work neiher) |
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| 07:18.34 | ISIL | ah shit! |
| 07:18.48 | ISIL | Someone just crapped all over the fucking bed. |
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| 07:21.43 | marbus90 | what, you can install jessie directly and not use aptitude upgrade? o.O |
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| 07:22.15 | yashi | I'm on Debian jessie. How can I upgrade my eclipse from 3.8 to 4.4 latest SVN stable release via apt-get? |
| 07:22.27 | marbus90 | j/k, but i don't know why I should reinstall that system for that... |
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| 07:27.32 | colo-work | !kernel |
| 07:27.36 | colo-work | hm |
| 07:27.43 | colo-work | what was the bot's command again? |
| 07:27.46 | colo-work | ,kernel |
| 07:27.46 | centrx | !bot |
| 07:27.47 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 07:27.47 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.16-trunk-686-pae (3.16-1~exp1); sid: 3.16-1-686-pae (3.16.2-2); jessie: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.15-2); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.14.15-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 07:28.13 | colo-work | are there any pre-built debian packages of kernel RCs available? |
| 07:28.33 | colo-work | (I'm building 3.17-rc4 myself right now, but if possible, would like to avoid that in future) |
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| 07:28.54 | themill | Given that 3.16 is going to be the release kernel for jessie, probably not for a while. |
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| 07:30.18 | yashi | When's Debian jeezy coming out? |
| 07:30.53 | centrx | jeezy fo-sheezy? |
| 07:31.14 | yashi | jeezy as in the adjective derived from jeez |
| 07:31.21 | jelly-home | yashi: debian does not have set release dates |
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| 07:49.41 | cpbl | whowas cpbl |
| 07:49.59 | anyMoreHC | u are |
| 07:50.23 | anyMoreHC | ... |
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| 07:50.46 | anyMoreHC | your name has been changed |
| 07:50.56 | shay_shay | can sid kernel be installed on wheezy or dependency problems |
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| 07:52.27 | rocko3 | does debian linux kernel contain non free binary blobs? |
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| 07:52.30 | centrx | shay_shay, Use wheezy-backports |
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| 07:52.51 | centrx | rocko3, non-free blobs were removed to separate packages like firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 07:53.41 | rocko3 | so installing debian and only using main repo you are sure fire to only use free software? |
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| 07:54.48 | centrx | rocko3, Correct, "main", no "contrib, no "non-free", no (non-free) third-party repositories |
| 07:55.05 | bielewelt | You could install the vrms package to have a report on non-free packages generated for you regularly. |
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| 07:55.32 | rocko3 | there is 100% free third party repositories |
| 07:55.33 | themill | vrms doesn't do anything useful other than tell you if you installed packages from contrib and non-free. |
| 07:55.53 | themill | (and aptitude can do that for you) |
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| 07:56.05 | rocko3 | like tor and i2p repo and DNS's repo for GNU related software |
| 07:56.06 | shay_shay | centrx: but if i wanted 3.16.2 ? |
| 07:56.52 | anyMoreHC | ho ho |
| 07:56.53 | bielewelt | And vrms sets up a cron jobs to remind you. Anyway, that's just a thought. |
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| 07:57.14 | rocko3 | cool bielewelt |
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| 07:57.54 | themill | stick «aptitude search '~i?or(~scontrib,~snon-free)'» in /etc/cron.daily... but really do you need reminding that you asked for a package to be installed? |
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| 07:58.17 | rocko3 | also the videolan repo for the dvdcss2 decryption library is free too |
| 07:58.28 | themill | rocko3: that's pretty irrelevant to the discussion though |
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| 07:58.59 | rocko3 | I see |
| 07:59.04 | anyMoreHC | I have a question |
| 07:59.11 | centrx | dpkg, tell shay_shay about ssb |
| 07:59.13 | anyMoreHC | anyone help ,thanks |
| 07:59.32 | anyMoreHC | how old are you guys here? |
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| 07:59.57 | centrx | Thousands of time intervals old |
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| 08:00.23 | anyMoreHC | i am serious |
| 08:00.42 | centrx | !serious |
| 08:00.42 | dpkg | i guess serious is You don't have to stay formal all the time, but going off topic for too long will annoy people. |
| 08:00.44 | anyMoreHC | ho ho |
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| 08:01.46 | rocko3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.52 | rocko3 | :) |
| 08:01.55 | Waheedi | lol |
| 08:02.22 | anyMoreHC | why should me go there? |
| 08:02.53 | rocko3 | I think it is pretty cool that debian is teaming up with FSF and helping out with the h-node hardware list |
| 08:02.55 | rocko3 | :) |
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| 08:03.05 | rocko3 | plus 10 debian |
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| 08:03.32 | shay_shay | anyMoreHC: this is a support channel |
| 08:03.51 | rocko3 | https://fsf.org/news/fsf-and-debian-join-forces-to-help-free-software-users-find-the-hardware-they-need |
| 08:03.58 | anyMoreHC | sorry,i am a Chinese,sometimes I can not understand your words |
| 08:04.02 | shay_shay | rocko3: we know |
| 08:04.25 | anyMoreHC | how do you know.... |
| 08:04.35 | shay_shay | O.O |
| 08:04.43 | anyMoreHC | 0.0 |
| 08:04.54 | anyMoreHC | you are Chinese too... |
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| 08:25.30 | themill | MO_Handes: purge it in the normal way (aptitude purge $package) |
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| 08:29.06 | MO_Handes | themill, now the package is marked as rc |
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| 08:30.07 | MO_Handes | themill, thanks purging it again with dpkg did the trick |
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| 08:32.24 | Gabi- | hi , how can i install zend guard loader , via debian 3.2 , using php 5.5 |
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| 08:46.02 | colo-work | ah, probably due to CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=Y)... |
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| 08:53.39 | gribouille | hi |
| 08:54.16 | gribouille | I can't use the bash <(...) construct in a chrooted system |
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| 08:54.43 | jelly | gribouille: how does it fail, which OS is outside of chroot? |
| 08:54.46 | gribouille | cat <(ls) gives : cat: /dev/fd/63: No such file or directory |
| 08:55.15 | gribouille | jelly: outside: wheezy, inside: jessie |
| 08:55.29 | jelly | gribouille: /proc has to mounted inside chroot, since lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Aug 27 14:49 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd |
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| 08:56.11 | gribouille | ok thanks |
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| 08:56.49 | gribouille | genrally, in a chrooted system, should I bind /proc and /dev? |
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| 08:57.29 | jelly | gribouille: only if you need it |
| 08:58.10 | gribouille | jelly: the programs I use may or not need it. it is not easy to know |
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| 08:58.53 | gribouille | are there any dangers if I use the host /proc and /dev? |
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| 08:59.46 | jelly | gribouille: access to /dev gives many ways to escape a chroot |
| 09:00.04 | qwebirc57593 | Hello, I have Debian testing in which the sound was fine. Few days ago, after an update, I have "no soundcards found" with "aplay -l". lspci: "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)". I've tried everything and searched everwhere. I prefer not reinstalling the OS. I hope someone can help me |
| 09:00.18 | jelly | but then again a chroot on its own isn't supposed to be a security measure |
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| 09:01.47 | qwebirc57593 | I've done another update before sending the question. Menashè |
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| 09:35.32 | rzeka | Hola. How does it work in Sid - it's unstable, ok, but are the packages in stable versions or there are betas too? |
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| 09:37.21 | themill | rzeka: only things that are likely to be up to scratch for the jessie release are uploaded, but that's not to say that the compiled packages work or that the packages can even be installed properly. |
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| 09:40.01 | rzeka | themill, so another question. While jessie is testing, is it possible to run always-testing? Is it even possible to use debian like a rolling-release distro? |
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| 09:40.59 | AlexPortable | Any way to export the start menu entries to a folder? |
| 09:41.03 | AlexPortable | so i can click without having to re-open the menu ever ytime |
| 09:41.35 | themill | rzeka: mostly. Sometimes you will want to pull a package from unstable or even experimental |
| 09:42.15 | rzeka | So testing instead of sid and from time to time pull from unstable. Got it, thanks :) |
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| 09:44.11 | noesc | Has anyone noticed problems with webkit enabled browsers since yesterday (running jessie) |
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| 09:44.44 | noesc | All of a sudden I can't surf the net with any browser except links. Which leaves a bit to want for. |
| 09:44.54 | Gabi- | how can i downgrade php in debian from 5.5 to 5.4 |
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| 09:48.53 | noesc | My problem is that I can't surf with any webkit based browsers: firefox, chromium, uzbl, surf are the ones I've tried. I have cleared the firewall. With & without ssh proxy. If I try to surf to a IP adress, I get the name resolved but result "server not found" |
| 09:49.02 | themill | Gabi-: php5.5 isn't in any debian release. |
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| 09:51.57 | sandman13 | noesc: I think even if PHP5.5 is in Debian release, PHP version shouldn't affect your browsing experience. |
| 09:53.24 | AlexPortable | anyone? |
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| 09:54.54 | noesc | sandman13: I have not said anything about PHP :) Sorry for the confusion |
| 09:55.45 | Gabi- | themill , #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 09:56.01 | Gabi- | Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l |
| 09:56.19 | Gabi- | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.20 | Gabi- | PHP 5.5.16-1~dotdeb.1 (cli) (built: Aug 22 2014 14:18:50) |
| 09:56.20 | Gabi- | Copyright (c) 1997-2014 The PHP Group |
| 09:56.26 | themill | dpkg: tell Gabi- about dotdeb |
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| 09:56.49 | sandman13 | noesc: sorry for that I got confused |
| 09:56.52 | sandman13 | :D |
| 09:57.00 | anyMoreHC | lol |
| 09:57.42 | cantoma | hey guys, any image viewer that allows me to see multiple eps files in one grid. This is because I have generated many eps files and it would take for ever if I have to open one by one in order to check them. |
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| 09:58.45 | anyMoreHC | 0.0 |
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| 10:01.10 | themill | cantoma: I'd use about 8 lines of shell script and latex for that... |
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| 10:01.48 | cantoma | themill, i was trying to get that done in a single apt-get command |
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| 10:15.27 | marbus90 | maybe even replace that apt-get for aptitude so you don't have to move your finger out of the 10-fingers-system range :p |
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| 10:18.38 | peetaur2 | alias a=apt-get |
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| 10:21.01 | ShalokShalom | hi there |
| 10:21.12 | ShalokShalom | is there a way to ship a multi lingual debian iso for me ? |
| 10:22.09 | Penix | ShalokShalom: you want the debian installer in your native language? we've got that |
| 10:22.51 | ShalokShalom | the interface |
| 10:22.56 | ShalokShalom | kde sc |
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| 10:24.12 | Penix | as an ignorant monolingual english speaker, I hear kde has very good i18n support |
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| 10:24.24 | Penix | do you want specific languages to be included on install media? |
| 10:24.35 | hegemoOn | where is it possible to know which arguments were given to ./configure a package ? |
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| 10:24.47 | hegemoOn | like nginx |
| 10:24.50 | hegemoOn | i need a module |
| 10:24.54 | Penix | config.log? |
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| 10:25.11 | hegemoOn | i did an apt-get install nginx |
| 10:25.20 | hegemoOn | running since 3 months |
| 10:25.30 | hegemoOn | but now i need a new module for nginx |
| 10:25.39 | hegemoOn | not available on default debian package |
| 10:25.44 | ShalokShalom | Penix: yes, multilingual support > when the installer choose german > install german kde (and iceweasel) ? |
| 10:26.05 | ShalokShalom | without manual change in the kcm |
| 10:26.14 | hegemoOn | i have to compile nginx from source and including module, but default ./configure option isnt matching debian file policy |
| 10:26.31 | hegemoOn | like sbin dir in /usr/local/sbin instead of /usr/local/bin |
| 10:26.48 | themill | hegemoOn: you may want nginx from wheezy-backports rather than wheezy btw. But see http://sources.debian.net/src/nginx/1.2.1-2.2%2Bwheezy2/debian/rules/ |
| 10:26.50 | ShalokShalom | best would be, if it works in live mode as well, when i choose another language in gfxboot with F 2 |
| 10:26.57 | Penix | hegemoOn: check the 'debian' directory of the source package perhaps |
| 10:27.12 | hegemoOn | and so on, so i would like to know which were the option of the ./configure for building this package |
| 10:27.12 | Penix | hegemoOn: debian/rules etc. |
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| 10:30.45 | hegemoOn | penix gotcha ! |
| 10:30.52 | hegemoOn | http://sources.debian.net/src/nginx/1.2.1-2.2%2Bwheezy2/debian/rules/ |
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| 10:34.41 | AlexPortable | Any way to export the start menu entries to a folder? so i can click without having to re-open the menu ever ytime |
| 10:34.49 | AlexPortable | or a location where all start menu entries are stored? |
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| 10:36.29 | rfreeman_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTDS3iCqRY why this does not play on debian, is that requiring flash? |
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| 10:37.24 | vaidas_k | rfreeman_w: you tell us. :) |
| 10:37.53 | rfreeman_w | though this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3SbajhMfXo plays... and flash works uhh |
| 10:38.59 | petn-randall | rfreeman_w: If the flash works, I guess it requires flash. Some videos on youtube are available through HTML5, a quick google search might give you some hints how to make that happen. |
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| 10:44.05 | ShalokShalom | AlexPortable: DE ? |
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| 10:45.25 | AlexPortable | ShalokShalom: gnome 2 i think |
| 10:45.39 | AlexPortable | top left shows me applications and places |
| 10:45.47 | ShalokShalom | yep |
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| 10:45.54 | AlexPortable | top right indicators and username |
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| 10:45.57 | AlexPortable | can also be gnome fallback |
| 10:46.40 | ShalokShalom | i use just kde sc, maybe ask in #gnome and #mate ? |
| 10:47.08 | ShalokShalom | ah, yeah, i guess gnome fallback (wheezy) or gnome classic mode (jessy) |
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| 10:53.48 | bl4ckdu5t | Hi all. Lately I've been having issues with dpkg. I tried installing eclipse and I got the following http://paste.debian.net/120018/ |
| 10:54.32 | bl4ckdu5t | I was getting something similar when trying to install acpi_fakekey after deleting it inadvertently earlier |
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| 10:57.19 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: Are you still running that frankendebian installation? I still remember supporting you on similar issues a few weeks back. |
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| 11:00.20 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: Also, don't run eclipse as root, doing that out of habit is a recipe for trouble. |
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| 11:05.39 | ccazzo | bl4ckdu5t petn-randall : i had the same problem when i installed eclipse-cdt. i remember that there where an ugly way out. |
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| 11:08.26 | bl4ckdu5t | petn-randall: I'm on a normal wheezy now |
| 11:08.58 | bl4ckdu5t | and not running eclipse as root is different from installing as root. I guess it doesn't hurt installing as root? |
| 11:09.38 | ccazzo | bl4ckdu5t: i had to purge all the packages that were installed for eclipse. then i installed all the 'unconfigured' packages separately. after this i installed normally the eclipse packages... and it worked. |
| 11:09.51 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: "root@noxiux /h/bl4ckdu5t# eclipse" â from your paste, that is running eclipse as root. |
| 11:10.14 | petn-randall | !tell bl4ckdu5t -about bat |
| 11:10.39 | bl4ckdu5t | yes I just realized that |
| 11:10.41 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: You know the drill then. Can you please paste us the info the bot requested from you? |
| 11:10.41 | bl4ckdu5t | my bad |
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| 11:14.13 | anyMoreHC | +bl4ckdu5t what is your meaning by "I'm on a normal wheezy now"? |
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| 11:18.38 | petn-randall | anyMoreHC: He had a Frankendebian a few weeks back, wheezy + Ubuntu PPAs + jessie + other random repositories, which made the system unusable. We advised bl4ckdu5t to reinstall, which he apparently did. |
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| 11:18.56 | bl4ckdu5t | anyMoreHC: petn-randall I was on a ^ |
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| 11:19.20 | bl4ckdu5t | Yea I saved myself the headaches |
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| 11:20.02 | bl4ckdu5t | The eclipse ran properly when I ran it as a normal user |
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| 11:20.40 | bl4ckdu5t | notices he is using the word "normal" too many times |
| 11:21.20 | bl4ckdu5t | \me feels abNORMAL |
| 11:21.25 | bl4ckdu5t | \me |
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| 11:21.39 | threadlock | /me |
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| 11:21.56 | bl4ckdu5t | hehe :D |
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| 11:24.05 | petn-randall | \ is for windows users ;) |
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| 11:36.07 | jcm | hi, I'm stuck in initramfs busybox shell after boot (migration squeeze to wheezy done, / on soft raid 5 lvm partition). I can retrieve my /dev/md1, but lvm vgscan fails (no volume). Do I miss a module? how can I repair the boot? |
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| 11:36.09 | hadi | Hi guys. I want to transfer a directory with all the files and directories in it to my new VPS, from my OLD VPS. how can i do this? |
| 11:36.34 | jcm | hadi: with scp -r over ssh? |
| 11:36.43 | ChrisH | hadi: man rsync |
| 11:36.46 | nosklo | rsync |
| 11:37.21 | hadi | Thanks. i will take a look |
| 11:37.42 | ChrisH | jcm: lsbk, blkid show LVM signatures on your disks/partions? |
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| 11:39.54 | jcm | ChrisH: the manually rebuilt /dev/md1 is not in the blkid list. What should I do? |
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| 11:40.43 | ChrisH | jcm: can you paste blkid, pvs, cat /proc/mdstat onto paste.debian.net |
| 11:41.11 | TheQuestionmark | I'd just do some 'scp -r /path/to/dir user@ip:/path/to/dir/'. |
| 11:41.16 | jcm | ChrisH: I have no way to copy screens from initramfs shell :/ |
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| 11:43.12 | jcm | ChrisH: I'll take pictures. The strange thing is I managed once to repair the array from the live cd; then booted; then updated grub; now hangs on reboot. |
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| 11:44.06 | ChrisH | jcm: md1 is rebuild and md1 is expected to be the PV for your VG. so pvscan and vgscan should show something useful. I assume you need any update-initramfs too |
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| 11:44.56 | jcm | ChrisH: yes I forgot to update-initramfs after reinstalling grub. I thought it would have been done automatically. |
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| 11:49.32 | sandman13 | say if I changed the sources.list to that of Testing/Sid and only updated but NOT upgraded and later changed the sources.list to that of Stable, and upgraded, would it lead to a broken system? |
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| 11:52.14 | rgr | err, yes. |
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| 11:52.55 | rgr | you'd end up with loads of unstable stuff which is way ahead of your testing or stable repo - causing newer stable/testing updates to be ignored. |
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| 12:06.06 | jcm | ChrisH: paste.debian.net/120025 |
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| 12:12.29 | ChrisH | jcm: they are upside-down, but I do not see md1 in blkid |
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| 12:14.44 | jcm | ChrisH: no, probably because I rebuilt it manually |
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| 12:15.59 | jcm | ChrisH: do you thing I could use the install cd to have proper grub and modules (that didn't come on dist-upgrade)? I didn't do it yet because it seemed to me that the partionning step would erase my disks, even if I reenter the same sizes and config. |
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| 12:21.04 | ChrisH | blkid must show /dev/md1; at leastr blkid /dev/md1 needs to show LVM |
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| 12:27.16 | jcm | ChrisH: I'll reboot once more from live cd, manually mount my / part, chroot in it and try to fix grub and update-initramfs |
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| 12:42.15 | ChrisH | jcm: Keep us posted |
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| 12:46.39 | woshty | Does vim from testing/unstable have html syntax highlighting? |
| 12:46.50 | woshty | *html5 |
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| 12:51.05 | nkuttler | woshty: not out of the box afaik, but it's easy to install anyway |
| 12:51.05 | pfsense_rookie | woshty, are you testing this on a ".html" file? |
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| 12:52.18 | woshty | pfsense_rookie: yep |
| 12:52.21 | pfsense_rookie | Ah, missed that "html5"... |
| 12:52.41 | pfsense_rookie | It seems to support some type of HTML on wheezy. |
| 12:53.37 | bl4ckdu5t | how long till jessie becomes stable? |
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| 12:54.37 | bl4ckdu5t | vim doesn't recognize HTML5 elements like article, header, footer, aside |
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| 12:56.51 | pfsense_rookie | bl4ckdu5t, there isn't a specific date for Debian stable releases, but I have seen a mantainer or two mention early 2015. |
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| 12:58.23 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm being too enthusiastic |
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| 12:59.34 | pfsense_rookie | bl4ckdu5t, testing seems "stable" enough right now, if it's just a simple deployment that you are looking for. |
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| 13:02.18 | woshty | nkuttler: I will take a look at that, thx. |
| 13:03.51 | bl4ckdu5t | I was just trying to get it installed |
| 13:04.05 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: Some time after christmas. We just don't know which christmas yet. |
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| 13:05.04 | anyMoreHC | hi guys,I will go to sleep now! see u tommorrow/ |
| 13:05.06 | anyMoreHC | lol |
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| 13:05.45 | bl4ckdu5t | petn-randall: lol it can't be 2015 christmas or latter |
| 13:06.10 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: Aha, and how do you know? |
| 13:06.38 | bl4ckdu5t | That's just too far |
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| 13:07.24 | sterns_ | I'm using Keepass 2.7 on Jessie and Gnome 3. The add/modify account window does not fit on the screen 1366X768 screen. This means that the OK/Cancel buttons are not visible. Would this be considered a bug? |
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| 13:08.20 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: Look at the Debian release history. There was an unfreeze between Woody and Sarge because so many things went wrong back then. Just saying you can't say anything for sure. |
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| 13:10.53 | bl4ckdu5t | that's true anyway |
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| 13:12.23 | abrotman | sterns_: IMO, yes .. That's not a small resolution |
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| 13:16.05 | sterns_ | abrotman: thanks |
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| 13:18.01 | tomodachi | grim4593: 1 install windows |
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| 13:19.25 | petn-randall | tomodachi: ?? |
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| 13:24.21 | gribouille | hi |
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| 13:39.39 | SA007 | I've got something simple but I don't know where to fix it |
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| 13:39.53 | SA007 | i' running debian with xorg, icewm and xterm |
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| 13:40.30 | SA007 | if I press <alt><number> i don't get that send to bash/etc but I get a charachter |
| 13:40.51 | SA007 | outside of X it works fine |
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| 13:41.15 | petn-randall | SA007: Do you mean Alt + F<number>? |
| 13:41.34 | SA007 | no, the normal numbers |
| 13:42.00 | SA007 | it seems there is a key combination defined 'somewhere' but I can't vind it |
| 13:42.33 | SA007 | my icewm/keys file onl contains my multimedia keys, my xorg.conf does not exist (the default works fine) |
| 13:42.35 | petn-randall | SA007: Those are normal key codes that the currently focussed application will process. |
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| 13:43.06 | SA007 | petn-randall: they are supposed to do that, yes |
| 13:44.46 | SA007 | in xev i see what i expect |
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| 13:45.17 | SA007 | but in xterm/gnome-terminal I don't get a alt-2 key send to bash |
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| 13:47.20 | petn-randall | SA007: Those applications don't "send to bash" when pressing that, e.g. alt + 2 will change to the 2nd tab you have open. If it doesn't exist, nothing will happen. |
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| 13:49.29 | SA007 | petn-randall: I have irssi running in a terminal, normally on other computers if 1 press alt-1 it switches to the first window, it does not do that but I get a ± character |
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| 13:50.31 | movic | hi |
| 13:50.33 | movic | anyone here? |
| 13:50.43 | SA007 | yes |
| 13:50.47 | movic | hi SA007 |
| 13:50.59 | movic | need some help with raspberry pi |
| 13:51.28 | movic | i cant remove hostapd that i have in old verison |
| 13:51.39 | movic | When I install new version via apt-get |
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| 13:51.43 | movic | it still runs old verison |
| 13:51.45 | movic | i'm stuck |
| 13:51.46 | movic | :/ |
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| 13:51.52 | SA007 | how did you install the old version? |
| 13:52.04 | movic | manualy |
| 13:52.07 | movic | from git |
| 13:52.21 | SA007 | there is you problem, you need to remove it manually as well |
| 13:52.41 | SA007 | do you still have the makefiles? there is often a make uninstall |
| 13:52.45 | movic | how to do it? |
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| 13:52.49 | movic | yeah, i tried this |
| 13:52.55 | movic | but no go :) |
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| 13:53.14 | SA007 | then just remove the binaries |
| 13:54.03 | SA007 | in the make install you can see which binaries are copied to which place and delete those |
| 13:54.27 | movic | from /usr/local/bin |
| 13:54.36 | SA007 | probably ys |
| 13:54.37 | SA007 | yes |
| 13:54.56 | movic | ok, I'll try. |
| 13:54.56 | movic | thanks |
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| 14:13.16 | Halma | hello all |
| 14:13.51 | Halma | how can i compile source code without building the documentation ? |
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| 14:15.03 | Halma | i mean man file stuff like that |
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| 14:16.46 | petn-randall | Halma: That depends on the actual source in question. Check the INSTALL file if there are any instructions on that. |
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| 14:18.44 | Halma | there is no INSTALL file |
| 14:19.01 | Halma | id like to compile bridge-utils from source |
| 14:19.13 | Halma | but without all the documentation stuff |
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| 14:22.02 | Halma | at ./configure --docdir=/dev/null is that an option ? ;) |
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| 14:29.19 | petn-randall | Halma: That likely won't work, check the configure script if there's a possibility to not create the documentation. Likely there's no switch to turn it off, though. |
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| 14:36.22 | movic | SA007: thanks, it helped |
| 14:37.10 | LordDeath | what is the name of the ZFS on linux packages for debian? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems.zfs.user/18418 |
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| 14:38.24 | dodo__ | hi, any expert for installation odbc progress open edge on debian in UNCOMMITED READ mode ? |
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| 14:45.24 | _1_Jan-Eric | hi |
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| 14:47.41 | sterns_ | att |
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| 14:49.19 | likevinyl | is away: rodeado de negricos que aman el capitalismo. |
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| 14:49.30 | sterns_ | dodo__: sounds like a bunch of gibberish to me... guess I'm not your guy :) |
| 14:50.55 | rgr | it is gibberish. |
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| 14:52.50 | dodo__ | have true, my english is horrible but traying get help for my problem with progress open edge |
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| 14:54.35 | dodo__ | i install progress open edge driver to the debian , connect for remote progress database is ok but have small problem |
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| 14:55.50 | dodo__ | in odbc.ini i set condition UNCOMMITED READ , this condition should create connect read only |
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| 14:56.13 | dodo__ | but not work , i can still write to progress database |
| 14:56.22 | jcm | ChrisH: seems this describes exactly my pb : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=59310 |
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| 14:56.41 | dodo__ | i looking progress open edge expert for fix the problem |
| 14:57.09 | Ridley5 | hi all |
| 14:57.19 | jcm | ChrisH: I reinstalled all (raid array, lvm, wheezy system) and installer stops on grub-install... really strange that it worked correctly with squeez |
| 14:57.35 | Ridley5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.46 | Ridley5 | i have this error: ERROR: could not open directory /lib/modules/2.6.32-042stab092.3: No such file or directory |
| 14:57.57 | Ridley5 | can anyone help |
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| 15:03.56 | abrotman | Ridley5: that's nto a Debian kernel |
| 15:04.20 | Ridley5 | sorry abrotman ? |
| 15:04.36 | abrotman | Ridley5: what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 15:04.55 | Ridley5 | 2.6.32-042stab092.3 |
| 15:05.04 | Ridley5 | it's a VSP abrotman |
| 15:05.12 | Ridley5 | VPS srry |
| 15:05.13 | abrotman | Yes, I can tell |
| 15:05.57 | svvitch | somebody know reason why vsftpd reconnect when starts to send data, and finally send 0 bite file https://dpaste.de/Xz8H ? |
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| 15:07.27 | SA007 | still no closer to getting alt-0 to alt-9 to register in irssi |
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| 15:07.44 | SA007 | anyone know how to find key settings in X? |
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| 15:08.46 | babilen | SA007: Which terminal are you using? |
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| 15:08.58 | SA007 | babilen: xterm and/or gnome-terminal |
| 15:09.35 | SA007 | xterm gives me °±²³´µ¶·¸¹ when i press alt-0 - alt-9 |
| 15:09.43 | SA007 | gnome-terminal gives nothing |
| 15:10.24 | babilen | SA007: As you ask in here (not #debian-next) I assume that you use wheezy rather than testing/unstable. Is that correct? |
| 15:10.44 | babilen | Does the switching in irssi work in xterm? |
| 15:10.46 | SA007 | afaik i'm running stable, let me check |
| 15:11.22 | SA007 | ok, this machine is testing, sorry |
| 15:11.26 | babilen | SA007: "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'gnome-terminal'|tail -n1" should be clear |
| 15:12.12 | Nectur | What irc client you all using? |
| 15:12.20 | SA007 | Nectur: i'm using irssi |
| 15:12.47 | Nectur | Its console based? |
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| 15:12.51 | SA007 | yes |
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| 15:12.55 | SA007 | Nectur: yes |
| 15:13.15 | babilen | SA007: Ah, that version of Gnome terminal defines alt-[0-9] keyboard shortcuts itself. You will have to unset them .. One second |
| 15:13.40 | Nectur | Yes seen it today somewhere |
| 15:14.03 | SA007 | I see, let me try to unset them all |
| 15:14.49 | SA007 | babilen: awesome, that works :) |
| 15:15.33 | babilen | \o/ |
| 15:15.37 | SA007 | babilen: thanks, i was not expecting it to be in gnome-terminal since xterm also doesn't work |
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| 15:15.58 | babilen | I have no idea what the problem with xterm might be :-/ |
| 15:16.04 | socfocus | my desktop is not usable I right click on it and nothing happens is the desktop locked by default or something |
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| 15:16.13 | SA007 | babilen: I don't care, i normally never use xterm |
| 15:16.16 | babilen | ack |
| 15:16.57 | SA007 | socfocus: what window manager are you using? |
| 15:17.15 | SA007 | gnome/kde/icewm/fluxbox/etc |
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| 15:18.11 | socfocus | gnome |
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| 15:18.41 | socfocus | the regular old gnome not the new window manager i swapped back but it was an option i didnt have to do anything in the latest stable debina |
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| 15:19.36 | babilen | socfocus: So you are using wheezy with Gnome from squeeze ? (how did you manage that?) |
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| 15:28.45 | socfocus | wheezy |
| 15:28.55 | socfocus | just a drop down list box at login |
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| 15:30.40 | Nectur | How to determine window manager |
| 15:31.06 | Nectur | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.37 | centrx | Nectur, lightdm is your display manager (DM) / login screen |
| 15:32.05 | Nectur | ok |
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| 15:32.32 | Nectur | Then i dunno, digging further |
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| 15:34.28 | jelly | Nectur: what does "xprop -root _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK" say? |
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| 15:48.55 | Samouy | hi , someone could help me ? I have a problem with Eclipse |
| 15:49.23 | Samouy | I can't create any projects (java , C , C++ ... ) |
| 15:49.31 | Penix | Samouy: is it Debian-specific? if not, #eclipse |
| 15:50.19 | Samouy | Penix, Oh okay , thanks you! |
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| 15:51.02 | Samouy | I don't often use irc channels , sorry :-) |
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| 15:52.39 | rgr | Samouy: you installed java properly from the Debian repos? |
| 15:52.58 | Samouy | rgr, no i use custom installation of java 8 |
| 15:53.07 | Samouy | in /opt/ |
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| 15:53.49 | Penix | Samouy: you'll need to inform eclipse of its location then |
| 15:55.10 | Nectur | jelly: it says id 0x1000014 |
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| 15:55.49 | Samouy | Penix, ok |
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| 15:57.59 | Samouy | anwser on #eclipse : Then you'll have to check in #debian if thw wizards and UI aren't showing up. It's their way of packaging it. |
| 15:58.03 | Samouy | ^^ |
| 15:58.26 | centrx | hah |
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| 15:58.42 | abrotman | Samouy: did you use Debian packages for java or eclipse? |
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| 15:58.45 | centrx | Samouy, okay now visit #freenode-adjudicator to decide which channel to...jk |
| 15:58.54 | jelly | Nectur: alright, now do xprop -id 0x1000014|less |
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| 15:59.20 | jelly | Nectur: that ought to be your window manager and some information about it |
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| 15:59.37 | Samouy | abrotman, yes , from the debian repos |
| 15:59.44 | SA007 | hmm, i can't find 'eagle' in debian testing, I have non-free in sources.list but can't find it |
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| 15:59.58 | SA007 | https://packages.debian.org/testing/eagle |
| 16:00.27 | SA007 | anyone know how to find why it is missing? |
| 16:00.29 | Samouy | abrotman, but for java i use the java8 JDK from oracle |
| 16:00.31 | jelly | ,v eagle |
| 16:00.32 | judd | Package: eagle on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 5.10.0-2; wheezy/non-free: 5.12.0-3; jessie/non-free: 6.6.0-1; sid/non-free: 6.6.0-1 |
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| 16:00.56 | abrotman | Samouy: so we have no idea if or how well that would work |
| 16:01.06 | jelly | SA007: forgot to apt-get update after adding non-free? |
| 16:01.11 | SA007 | jelly: i'm running x64, would that make a difference? |
| 16:01.11 | Nectur | I see interesting |
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| 16:01.21 | jelly | ,v eagle --arch amd64 |
| 16:01.22 | judd | Package: eagle on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 5.10.0-2 |
| 16:01.23 | Nectur | Ty jelly |
| 16:01.24 | SA007 | jelly: no, just did it again to make sure |
| 16:01.32 | jelly | SA007: apparently yes |
| 16:01.39 | dubtech | hi, so, a usb stick gets automounted but a user can't write to it... drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 32768 Jan 1 1970 usb0/ - any hint how to change this? (debian testing, systemd, probably with a mount-target? not sure at least...) |
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| 16:02.11 | SA007 | jelly: hmm crap, now to find how to run i386 aplications on amd64 |
| 16:02.30 | jelly | dpkg, tell SA007 about multiarch howto |
| 16:03.43 | sterns_ | dubtech: you looking to change this permanently or just one time? |
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| 16:08.09 | dubtech | sterns_: permanently. |
| 16:08.29 | dubtech | sterns_: but feel free to tell me a one time solution as well if you know one and feel like doing so. |
| 16:09.08 | dubtech | sterns_: anyways, this is a single user workstation and i want things to "just work" for usb storage things. |
| 16:09.50 | dubtech | sterns_: though i'm using i3 and not kde/xfce/gnome - that might be worth mentioning because those probably start a bunch of background daemons and other weird stuff that handles it. |
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| 16:11.52 | sterns_ | do you have root acces? |
| 16:12.16 | dubtech | yes. |
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| 16:13.48 | SA007 | jelly: awesome, multiarch is actually really easy, got it working already :) |
| 16:14.35 | SA007 | 2 commands and a 10 minute wait on this crappy 1mbit dsl line and it worked |
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| 16:19.07 | Samouy | I found a solution for Eclipse : i installed C++ dev tools and Java tools are working now |
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| 16:20.48 | sterns_ | dubtech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB |
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| 16:25.44 | dubtech | sterns_: hm. seems like sticking with usbmount (which i just managed to configure) seems a better option. problem with usbmount that persists: error when trying to set permissions. but as long as that is all i can live with that i think. |
| 16:26.07 | dubtech | sterns_: thanks though. :) |
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| 16:54.19 | mechanicalduck | hi |
| 16:54.41 | mechanicalduck | How can I instruct cowbuilder to directly use a source package directory? |
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| 16:56.15 | dondelelcaro | mechanicalduck: build the source package first using dpkg-source -b, then use cowbuilder |
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| 16:59.20 | mechanicalduck | dondelelcaro: So I _have_ to use a source package? I can't instruct it to use the directory directly? |
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| 17:00.09 | dondelelcaro | mechanicalduck: if you want to use the directory directly, use pbuilder. |
| 17:00.26 | mechanicalduck | ah, I can use pbuilder and instruct it to use cowbuilder internally. |
| 17:00.34 | dondelelcaro | mechanicalduck: which is capable of calling cowbuilder itself... but that effectively generates a source package in the middle anyway |
| 17:00.38 | mechanicalduck | Alright, so with what option can I instruct pbuilder to use the directory as source? |
| 17:00.40 | mechanicalduck | oh |
| 17:00.47 | mechanicalduck | it generates a source package anyway |
| 17:00.52 | dondelelcaro | right |
| 17:00.54 | mechanicalduck | alright, then it wouldn't save any time |
| 17:01.05 | dondelelcaro | yep. You're pretty much always going to generate a source package |
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| 17:01.57 | mechanicalduck | thanks for the clarifying |
| 17:02.11 | dondelelcaro | mechanicalduck: no problem |
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| 17:02.51 | dondelelcaro | it is possible to do some building without a source package, but usually then you'd use schroot, and you don't get any of the automatic build-dependency satisfying that way |
| 17:03.02 | dondelelcaro | (or pbuilder login) |
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| 17:04.12 | mechanicalduck | Someone just told me that sbuild is better than cowbuilder. |
| 17:04.28 | mechanicalduck | But being honest - even the installation/configuration of that unfriendly thing is too painful. |
| 17:04.43 | mechanicalduck | I doesn't even support all time-saving features as pbuilder does. |
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| 17:14.00 | zorg24 | What's the best way to install eclipse 4.4? It seems like the latest version in the repo's is 3.8. |
| 17:15.22 | tethra | zorg24: checked for a backport? |
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| 17:18.03 | zorg24 | tethra, no how do I do that? |
| 17:18.04 | nkuttler | ,v eclipse |
| 17:18.06 | judd | Package: eclipse on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.2-6squeeze2; wheezy: 3.8.0~rc4-1; sid: 3.8.1-5.1; jessie: 3.8.1-5.1 |
| 17:18.14 | nkuttler | zorg24: no 4.x anywhere |
| 17:18.54 | zorg24 | I found these instructions for ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/26632/how-to-install-eclipse |
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| 17:19.50 | nkuttler | zorg24: sure, just get the source |
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| 17:20.57 | zorg24 | ok wasn't sure if better to do that or add the ppa |
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| 17:52.49 | adamsilver | guys i need to compile nginx with zlib. I should pass the path of zlib during configure. how can i find it? |
| 17:54.02 | Ove__ | I took a snapshot of the disk in the raid of server we're about to migrate. |
| 17:54.12 | Ove__ | On amazon that is. |
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| 17:54.59 | Ove__ | Recreated a volume from the snapshot and added that to the temporary server I am about to do a pg_dump from. |
| 17:55.13 | Ove__ | Also installed mdadm on that temporary server. |
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| 17:55.25 | Ove__ | Is there a special way of reassembling that raid? |
| 17:56.14 | Ove__ | because I can mount it and so on. But postgresql is not starting? |
| 17:56.23 | Ove__ | I am a newbie when it comes to mdadm. |
| 17:57.19 | Ove__ | mdadm --assemble --scan is what I used to assemble it. |
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| 17:57.49 | jhutchins | Ove__: Sounds like you need to look at why pg is not starting. |
| 17:58.28 | Ove__ | The relevant lines I can see in logs are: Sep 9 17:51:44 ip-10-0-100-181 kernel: [44332117.812900] postgres (3591): /proc/3591/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/3591/oom_score_adj instead. |
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| 17:59.48 | jalalsfs | How can I make debian run level 3 'mulit-user' without GUI, as a default run level? |
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| 18:00.32 | jhutchins | Ove__: That shouldn't prevent it from starting. You might want to increase the log level. |
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| 18:05.36 | Ove__ | jhutchins: I am so f*cking ashamed. |
| 18:05.38 | Ove__ | Permissions... |
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| 18:28.44 | mechanicalduck | hi |
| 18:28.53 | mechanicalduck | permissions always get you |
| 18:29.01 | mechanicalduck | so I build that linux kernel package using sbuilder / whateverbuilder. |
| 18:29.02 | mechanicalduck | How can I specify that I only want the kernel package(s) for arch amd64? |
| 18:29.06 | mechanicalduck | Because it seems to me that it currently (it is still running) builds for all archs. |
| 18:29.09 | mechanicalduck | can sbuilder use the .config file in the directory? |
| 18:29.12 | mechanicalduck | Or do I have to pass it separately? Or pass it as argument to it? |
| 18:29.31 | nkuttler | what do you guys use for apt caching? i think i tried all, and all were buggy. apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, .. |
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| 18:31.44 | mechanicalduck | nkuttler: I use squid-deb-proxy. |
| 18:32.02 | mechanicalduck | nkuttler: It is a package which sets up a second squid instance with apt caching dedicated config. |
| 18:32.32 | mechanicalduck | And then there is also the possibility of setting up an usual squid proxy and let it use apt-cacher-ng for apt related things. |
| 18:32.34 | nkuttler | mechanicalduck: how long have you been using it? |
| 18:32.53 | nkuttler | yeah, i've never really used squid, but if it does the job i'd be happy to |
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| 18:33.18 | mechanicalduck | nkuttler: I am using squid-deb-proxy since a year or so. |
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| 18:33.30 | mechanicalduck | *for |
| 18:33.35 | mechanicalduck | mh, common mistake |
| 18:33.40 | nkuttler | mechanicalduck: well, that sounds good. i'll look into it |
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| 18:34.13 | mechanicalduck | nkuttler: you will have to know some squid though |
| 18:34.20 | mechanicalduck | if you want to fine-tune it to your needs |
| 18:34.36 | nkuttler | mechanicalduck: oh well, that can't be too hard, can it? |
| 18:34.56 | mechanicalduck | nkuttler: when you don't need ssl support, then it won't be that hard, no. |
| 18:34.59 | nkuttler | i mean, i've set it up once as trivial proxy for a dorm, that was easy enough |
| 18:35.06 | nkuttler | hm |
| 18:35.13 | nkuttler | no, don't need ssl locally |
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| 18:35.37 | mechanicalduck | and deb packages are using its own signing anyway. |
| 18:35.42 | nkuttler | right |
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| 18:36.52 | nkuttler | i've been without local cachine for two or three years, but had to do multiple reinstalls this week. such a drag.. |
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| 18:37.01 | nkuttler | caching even |
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| 18:38.59 | nkuttler | mechanicalduck: fwiw, the people in #debian-admin @ oftc probably know about sbuild config |
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| 18:40.53 | mechanicalduck | ah, thanks |
| 18:41.18 | mechanicalduck | nkuttler: yes, caching is very useful. Especially when having multiple machines or containers. |
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| 18:42.57 | zvz | hi, all of my generic X11 window application windows open at the smallest possible size, xclock, xfontsel, etc. I'm using Openbox and have no special rules set up for these applications, let alone any that force windows to be small in any way. screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/edG4GjA.jpg |
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| 18:49.28 | mechanicalduck | So I think I found an issue but I am not sure whether this is really one. |
| 18:49.41 | mechanicalduck | in /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 18:49.52 | mechanicalduck | # Linux/x86 3.2.60 Kernel Configuration |
| 18:50.01 | mechanicalduck | when I reuse that config and run on it |
| 18:50.10 | mechanicalduck | make oldconfig |
| 18:50.20 | mechanicalduck | it changes the config file only at that single line: |
| 18:50.39 | mechanicalduck | # Linux/x86_64 3.2.60 Kernel Configuration |
| 18:50.46 | mechanicalduck | x86_64 instead x86 |
| 18:50.51 | mechanicalduck | why the difference? |
| 18:50.57 | mechanicalduck | it is just the comment |
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| 19:27.48 | stbatduke | Hello #debian! I am trying to change around packages on serverA to match serverB ... and I've run into an issue: When I "sudo apt-cache policy" some packages, on serverB they will have one version option in the version table, but on serverA it will list multiple version in the version table |
| 19:28.16 | stbatduke | It is the /var/lib/dpkg/status that has the different version in serverA ... how can I change the version in the status file? |
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| 19:28.36 | valdyn | stbatduke: the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives/ and the currently installed package add up to the one (or more) available from repositories |
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| 19:30.01 | stbatduke | ok, so can I actually specify one of the two versions listed in the version table to install? |
| 19:30.16 | valdyn | stbatduke: yes, of course |
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| 19:31.15 | stbatduke | just do "sudo apt-get install package=1.2.3.4" ? |
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| 19:31.24 | valdyn | stbatduke: yes |
| 19:32.02 | stbatduke | cool! |
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| 19:35.55 | PurpleDog | if I installed nginx from stable, is there a way to upgrade it to the version from testing or do I have to uninstall the stable version completely? |
| 19:36.57 | valdyn | judd: versions nginx |
| 19:36.58 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy-backports: 1.6.0-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.1-1; sid: 1.6.1-2 |
| 19:37.15 | BenNZ | PurpleDog: you could pin the version from testing , https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 19:37.23 | valdyn | PurpleDog: technically you can install that package from testing, but you should use backports |
| 19:37.38 | BenNZ | PurpleDog: but its not a good idea to mix repos |
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| 19:37.58 | PurpleDog | I know but I need to proxy websockets and it's not working in 1.2.1 |
| 19:38.16 | PurpleDog | and I don't want to build nginx from source |
| 19:38.20 | qjqqyy | dotdeb (a third-party repo) also packages a less patched latest version of nginx |
| 19:38.20 | valdyn | PurpleDog: what "but", the version in backports is about the same as in testing |
| 19:38.37 | PurpleDog | I was responding to BenNZ, valdyn |
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| 19:39.06 | valdyn | PurpleDog: dotdeb is no recommended here, fyi |
| 19:39.18 | PurpleDog | okay |
| 19:39.19 | kristijonas | Hello, I have just installed Debian Wheezy, using entire disk with LVM, I have selected the last option, to use different partitions for /home, /var, /tmp and /usr. The installation decided to use only 300 MB for /root. as I expected that is now a problem. Why in the would would setup decide to only use 300 MB for root if my HDD is 1TB? |
| 19:39.56 | valdyn | kristijonas: feel free to report a bug |
| 19:40.27 | valdyn | kristijonas: reality is that any "automatic" partitioning will suck for some people and/or setups |
| 19:40.42 | valdyn | kristijonas: so just dont use automatic partitioning |
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| 19:41.08 | valdyn | kristijonas: since you're on lvm you can trivially grow that /root |
| 19:41.32 | valdyn | kristijonas: and you can do that live |
| 19:42.11 | kristijonas | valdyn, last time I used LVM and Encryption (with /home and /root), and I had a problem to grow /root, but some of the users in this channel help me with that. This time I decided to stay away from encrypting the whole system. |
| 19:42.46 | kristijonas | valdyn, I would me more than happy if you could help me to resize /root and /home partitions. |
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| 19:43.13 | valdyn | kristijonas: lvresize, resize2fs |
| 19:44.28 | valdyn | kristijonas: lvresize -L +1G /dev/mapper/whatever (grow / by 1G) |
| 19:44.33 | kristijonas | valdyn, here is my df -h output: http://pastebin.com/WF3kYHXp I have chosen the automatic partitioning as I don't know much about Linux systems. |
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| 19:45.23 | valdyn | kristijonas: i dont really need to see that df |
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| 19:46.02 | valdyn | kristijonas: try what i said, if you still cant do it you need to ask a specific question |
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| 19:47.25 | kristijonas | valdyn, what size would you recommend using for /root ? I think +1G is not enough to me, I would prefer having at least 50 GB for root |
| 19:47.43 | valdyn | kristijonas: do you understand what you have on / ? |
| 19:47.50 | valdyn | kristijonas: 1G should be plenty |
| 19:48.03 | valdyn | kristijonas: 50G means youre doing something very wrong |
| 19:48.45 | valdyn | kristijonas: only /lib and /bin should really contain any data, on your system, thats probably less than 300MB |
| 19:48.51 | kristijonas | valdyn, it's not the server, I use this computer on the daily basis. And some non-free software, like Google Chrome as well. |
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| 19:49.13 | valdyn | kristijonas: thats irrelevant to the issue at hand |
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| 19:50.06 | valdyn | kristijonas: youre probably installing software to a non-debian place (which is ok), in a way that does not fit your partitioning scheme (which is obviously not ok) |
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| 19:51.28 | kristijonas | valdyn, Google Chrome .deb package tried to install some files into /opt directory and it failed because not enough space there. |
| 19:51.43 | valdyn | kristijonas: exactly what i said |
| 19:51.56 | valdyn | kristijonas: that defeats the purpose of having / seperate |
| 19:52.10 | jhutchins | valdyn: I strongly recommend that you have one data partition and one swap, unless you are creating a dedicated device and know exactly how much data will go where. |
| 19:52.37 | valdyn | kristijonas: your split up partitioning is silly, its ok to have just 2 partitions, / (50G if you like) and /home |
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| 19:53.13 | valdyn | kristijonas: but if you dont want to reinstall, grow / to 50G if you like or add another partition for /opt |
| 19:53.16 | jhutchins | kristijonas: The most reliable way to do this is to back up all your data, which you always want to do before messing with partitions, then just repartition and restore. |
| 19:53.35 | valdyn | hes on lvm |
| 19:53.42 | jhutchins | kristijonas: It takes the guesswork out, eliminates chances to make mistakes, and is often significantly faster. |
| 19:53.43 | valdyn | repartitioning live works fine |
| 19:54.00 | valdyn | ( of course one should always have a backup anyway) |
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| 19:54.05 | kristijonas | valdyn, I reinstalled my system just an hour ago. so I don't really want to reinstall again. |
| 19:54.29 | valdyn | kristijonas: ok, then make up your mind on what you want. Doing it is easy unless you want to shrink a partition |
| 19:55.04 | kristijonas | valdyn, should I first shrink /home? Because I used the entire disk. |
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| 19:55.19 | valdyn | kristijonas: i dont see 2 TB being used |
| 19:55.32 | valdyn | kristijonas: run "vgs" |
| 19:55.53 | kristijonas | valdyn, server 1 6 0 wz--n- 931.27g 0 |
| 19:56.12 | valdyn | kristijonas: ok, you got just one tb , oops |
| 19:56.40 | kristijonas | valdyn, yes, a 1TB hard drive. |
| 19:56.48 | mechanicalduck | Is overlayfs in linux kernel / debian downstream kernel? |
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| 19:57.28 | valdyn | kristijonas: so you have to shrink, im not going to walk you throught that |
| 19:58.16 | valdyn | kristijonas: theres not much data at /home. Makes sense to just delete and recreate that logical volume |
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| 19:59.19 | kristijonas | valdyn, the problem is that I don't know how to do it. |
| 19:59.35 | valdyn | kristijonas: yes, of course, i didnt know that either before i knew it |
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| 20:00.49 | kristijonas | valdyn, I can try google'ing it, but in problems like "how do resized mounted partition? how to resize root partition?", there are a lot of articles which I don't know if I should trust. |
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| 20:01.16 | valdyn | kristijonas: you need to not be logged in as user |
| 20:01.26 | valdyn | kristijonas: then you unmount /home |
| 20:01.35 | valdyn | kristijonas: then you delete the /home lv |
| 20:01.55 | valdyn | kristijonas: then you recreate the same lv under the same name and mkfs on it |
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| 20:02.31 | valdyn | kristijonas: then you mount /home, then you copy the original data back |
| 20:02.56 | valdyn | kristijonas: ok, anyway i cant walk you thru that. |
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| 20:04.05 | kristijonas | valdyn, probably I will just get rid of LVM next time as it only makes resizing more difficult and will use Ubuntu Live CD to resize partitions. |
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| 20:21.08 | jhutchins | I'm pretty much following my own advice right now, I had to resize two volumes that were in LVM on VMware vdisks. Since I had to make a backup anyway, I just created new vdisks of the correct new size and am copying the data. When the copy's complete, I'll just mount the backup in place of the original and be good to go. |
| 20:21.33 | rgr | lvm makes resizing more difficult? Im with valdyn. /home and / are more than enough for 99% of people. Making more such as /boot and /opt leads to nothing but trouble and undue complexity IMO. No matter what the hard core say when I accepted Debians "default" multi partition set up a couple of years I ran out of apt.get space in no time at all and even after cleaning and removing caches had troubles updating. / and /home is where its |
| 20:21.33 | rgr | at. I keep / on an ssd and /home on an fast sata conventional hard drive. |
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| 20:46.29 | mikedebian | can anybody help me |
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| 20:47.38 | jhutchins | mikedebian: How would we know? |
| 20:47.41 | jhutchins | !ask |
| 20:47.42 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 20:48.01 | mikedebian | oh sorry |
| 20:48.19 | mikedebian | ok first time using irc i didn't even know this worked |
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| 20:50.45 | mikedebian | I'm trying to get devian to install on my windows 8.1 laptop as a dual boot. I downloaded the live installation and made a pen drive using pen drive linux. But when i go to install it it says that there is no CD media. Does anyone know what i need to do? Thanks |
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| 20:51.10 | mikedebian | And it's not a secure boot problem/bios problem (i think). |
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| 20:51.45 | jhutchins | mikedebian: win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from |
| 20:51.48 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.51 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:52.33 | jhutchins | mikedebian: pendrivelinux isn't very reliable. Also, you have to make sure you get the right image, the netinstall is preferred. If you get the "boot" image it'll ask for a CD. |
| 20:52.40 | mikedebian | Ok i'll try those options. |
| 20:52.53 | mikedebian | pendrivelinux is worthless |
| 20:53.00 | mikedebian | thanks |
| 20:53.18 | NetEcho | jhutchins funny you say that unetbootin has worked every time I've used it where other methods like pen drive linux and yumi have failed |
| 20:53.29 | jhutchins | mikedebian: See dpkg's private message, the install guide is very useful. |
| 20:53.41 | jhutchins | NetEcho: Me too, but I ran it on Linux. |
| 20:54.08 | jhutchins | NetEcho: We do get a lot of questions here from people who used it and either didn't get a bootable driver, or got one that asks for the CD. |
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| 20:54.33 | NetEcho | ah, I usually run it from W7 but I guess all the windows methods are prone to faliure |
| 20:54.34 | jhutchins | NetEcho: We find that they useually do better with the win32 thing. |
| 20:54.50 | mikedebian | I just want to get out of this windows hell. |
| 20:55.16 | NetEcho | mikedebian you're dual-booting? |
| 20:55.26 | jhutchins | mikedebian: You are familiar with the term "preaching to the choir"? |
| 20:55.47 | mikedebian | jhutchins: I hear you! |
| 20:55.54 | mikedebian | netecho: yes |
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| 20:56.04 | NetEcho | mikedebian do you have experience using debian? |
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| 20:56.39 | mikedebian | netecho: No i don't. I'm trying to learn as I go. |
| 20:57.08 | NetEcho | mikedebian might I suggest running it in a virtual machine environment for a few days before taking the plunge? especially if you're resizing partitions |
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| 20:58.02 | mikedebian | Ok i'll try that. I had whonix working on virtual box so i thought i'd give debian a plunge. I'll try it in virtual box though. |
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| 20:58.58 | NetEcho | mikedebian VMWare player is also free and I've found for test environments it tends to yield more performance on high end systems |
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| 21:02.32 | NetEcho | I tend to run my linux workstations in VMware Workstation as I do use Windows for gaming and don't like to reboot :P |
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| 21:05.06 | jhutchins | NetEcho: Booting Linux is much easier. |
| 21:05.26 | jhutchins | NetEcho: Our goal should be to have you running Windows on the VM under Linux. |
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| 21:06.13 | NetEcho | jhutchins unfortunatly for high end gaming that becomes an issue |
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| 21:09.40 | mikedebian | The file that i have is a .iso file, but it says i need a .img file. Do I have to convert it or something? |
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| 21:32.12 | zerick | Hi folks, I'm loosing SSH connectivity (indeed all ports but I noticed while trying to connect through SSH), I just see this (suspicious) message on /var/log/syslog -> [Tue Sep 9 16:01:02 2014] nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max) |
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| 21:32.55 | zerick | My Debian server is on lan, and ping (ICMP) works fine while any port is accessible |
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| 21:34.48 | Brigo | zerick, nf_conntrack is about iptables, look at your firewall |
| 21:34.48 | goozeman | ok, i think i found that sslv2 is disabled by default for crypto reasons |
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| 21:46.01 | LysergicDreams | Hi, I can't get my preseed's partman recipe working, it just makes root and swap LVs, any suggestions? http://sleepanarchy.com/p/gfNpZ3 |
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| 22:19.55 | LysergicDreams | Can anyone help me debug my preseed's partman recipe, it only makes root and swap LVs: http://sleepanarchy.com/p/gfNpZ3 |
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| 22:42.26 | zoku | whenever I suspend my thinkpad t60, the video gets all messed up |
| 22:42.34 | zoku | I'm using the vesa drivers though |
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| 23:04.02 | Okee | RichiH> The article says it is Debian based. |
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| 23:04.26 | Okee | RichiH> Feature set looks good, except for the gparted. I don't like gparted. |
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| 23:48.43 | NetEcho | how do I tell if debian is recognizing the HDD I just plugged in on one of my USB3 ports? |
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| 23:50.52 | NetEcho | Ok so it would seem USB3 isn't being detected by my system |
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