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| 00:11.12 | yeboot | how do I use my locale to get console/etc support for more than en_US.utf-8? If I want to show japanese/russian/korean in console, for example |
| 00:11.27 | yeboot | do I have to go around changing the locale environment variable every time? |
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| 00:41.46 | Lildirt | pfsense_rookie: Did you get my memos? |
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| 00:52.58 | Guest70634 | Does anyone here run a mail server on a commercial internet connect (eg comcast)? |
| 00:53.00 | Guest70634 | er |
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| 00:56.04 | sterns_ | I have in the past |
| 00:57.53 | Snuggyfoo | sterns_ are you aware if your ISPs ip block were blacklisted? Mine are according to mxtoolbox |
| 00:58.07 | Snuggyfoo | I just need to receive a verification of ownership email from StartSSL |
| 00:58.17 | RedDeath | Back |
| 01:00.02 | sterns_ | so you're on residential comcast? |
| 01:00.15 | sterns_ | do you have a static IP? |
| 01:00.45 | Snuggyfoo | residental comcast, no static ip |
| 01:01.06 | Snuggyfoo | web server is updated with afraid.org dynamic dns |
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| 01:02.59 | Snuggyfoo | I don't need to SEND any email either, just receive |
| 01:03.09 | Snuggyfoo | So would following any guide work in that case? |
| 01:03.09 | themill | It's pretty common (and probably a good thing) that residential IPs are blocked from directly sending or receiving mail. |
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| 01:03.29 | Snuggyfoo | I agree, but isnt that for sending on port 25 only? |
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| 01:03.44 | Snuggyfoo | w/o user/pass |
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| 01:30.52 | cusco | hi folks |
| 01:31.08 | cusco | I'm on debian installer right now, trying to install to a HP Smart Array |
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| 01:31.27 | cusco | I loaded the module hpsa ... but not sure on how to see the *logical* array disk |
| 01:31.35 | cusco | instead of the disks forming the array |
| 01:31.36 | cusco | ? |
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| 01:32.31 | civillian | cusco: if you can see the individual drives and not the array, then your array is not configured properly |
| 01:32.50 | cusco | civillian: it is.. its HP Smart Array |
| 01:33.01 | cusco | been there, believe me |
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| 01:33.37 | civillian | it's a hardware array, your OS will see what the hardware decides to present |
| 01:34.10 | cusco | ... |
| 01:34.18 | cusco | been there |
| 01:34.26 | cusco | for the last 2 hours |
| 01:34.39 | cusco | and I was thinking jut the same |
| 01:34.48 | cusco | turns out you need either the cciss or hpsa module |
| 01:35.00 | cusco | to be able to talk to the hardware and detect the array |
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| 02:01.41 | bt6 | I am trying to run the command vino-preferences to get a GUI for the vino VNC server however bash returns command not found. I have vino installed on debian sid. Any help? |
| 02:04.44 | ruukasu | if I understand correctly, flashplugin-nonfree is in contrib because the installer itself is free but the software installed by it is not? |
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| 02:05.19 | centrx | ruukasu, yes |
| 02:05.29 | rzeka | Does anybody know is it possible to boot from iso on usb using grub? |
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| 02:13.03 | dvs | rzeka: What are you trying to do? |
| 02:13.38 | rzeka | dvs: get multiple iso files on usb drive and boot directly from iso |
| 02:14.38 | dvs | rzeka: It's possible to put one Debian installer ISO on a USB flash drive and boot from it but not multiple ISOs |
| 02:15.07 | rzeka | dvs, the idea was not to extract iso but put the iso file :) |
| 02:16.48 | marbus90 | cusco in case that is a basic controller as in not an extra storage adapter card, it is likely to be a software raid which is only recognized by windows |
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| 02:22.58 | zq | is it possible to live replace the root fs of the running system with the contents of another debootstrap? |
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| 02:29.55 | themill | zq: you'd normally be using a live-image or rescue image of some description for that (or another partition). What are you hoping to do? |
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| 02:35.24 | zq | themill: rsync |
| 02:35.25 | zq | nvm |
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| 02:59.32 | critter | hi |
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| 03:00.26 | critter | is there a way to simulate unplug/plug of a USB device without actually do it? |
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| 03:01.46 | yates | the aptitude man page refers to the "Aptitude Reference Manual" - is that on a typical debian system somewhere? |
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| 03:03.29 | themill | !aptitude docs |
| 03:03.29 | dpkg | Documentation for aptitude can be found in the aptitude-doc package (to see the languages in which it is available, apt-cache showpkg aptitude-doc) or at http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/index.html . See also <aptitude build-dep> <aptitude clone> <aptitude-fu> <aptitude debug> <aptitude search> <aptitude states>. |
| 03:03.53 | yates | themill: thanks! |
| 03:05.04 | critter | Im working on a remote server and I need to "unplug/plug" a usb external HD, is there a way to do it via terminal? |
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| 04:45.31 | blackjack | i have a noob question. which is the older command, host or dig? And is it just the same command that performs exactly the same thing? |
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| 05:23.59 | mattcen | blackjack: Dig is far more powerful. Not sure which is older |
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| 05:25.53 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
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| 05:26.13 | neilthereildeil | i am trying to install fglrx-driver from wheezy-backports |
| 05:26.39 | neilthereildeil | so i added the entry for wheezy-backports to my sources.list file |
| 05:26.42 | neilthereildeil | and ran apt-get -t wheezy-backports install fglrx-driver |
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| 05:27.10 | neilthereildeil | but it says i have unmet dependencies |
| 05:27.11 | neilthereildeil | Recommends: libgl1-fglrx-glx-i386 but it is not installable |
| 05:27.17 | neilthereildeil | any idea how to fix this? |
| 05:29.50 | pfsense_rookie | neilthereildeil, you should run apt-get update making changes to your software sources. Did you do that? |
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| 05:30.47 | neilthereildeil | yep i already tried that |
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| 05:31.17 | pfsense_rookie | neilthereildeil, did you include the directive to add the non-free repo to your sources? |
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| 05:33.20 | neilthereildeil | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main non-free |
| 05:33.23 | neilthereildeil | thats my line |
| 05:33.58 | neilthereildeil | i think thats right... |
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| 05:35.16 | neilthereildeil | heres the output of the install command: http://pastebin.com/FeZKzEj2 |
| 05:35.32 | neilthereildeil | it says something about libgl1-fglrx-glx-i386 also |
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| 05:37.24 | pfsense_rookie | hmm, the package is there on the repository. Let's make sure you can see it. |
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| 05:38.15 | pfsense_rookie | Do "apt-cache search libgl1-fglrx-glx" |
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| 05:40.11 | neilthereildeil | pfsense_rookie: libgl1-fglrx-glx - proprietary libGL for the non-free ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver |
| 05:40.22 | neilthereildeil | that was one of the lines it outputted |
| 05:40.27 | neilthereildeil | so it looks like it sees it... |
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| 05:40.54 | arcke | neilthereildeil: are there unmet dependencies from contrib maybe? |
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| 05:41.35 | arcke | try using wheezy-backports main contrib non-free in sources |
| 05:41.47 | neilthereildeil | arcke: yep, that was it... |
| 05:42.28 | neilthereildeil | another question, guys |
| 05:42.47 | neilthereildeil | when i install stuff by default, will it get the backports now because they are newer versions? |
| 05:43.00 | pfsense_rookie | Ah, strange libgl1-fglrx-glx-i386 is on the non-free repo as well... |
| 05:43.12 | arcke | neilthereildeil: only if you use -t wheezy-backports when installing/upgrading |
| 05:43.35 | jelly-home | neilthereildeil: nope, the backports repo is configured to disable automatic upgrades, unless you already manually installed something from there |
| 05:44.13 | neilthereildeil | so fglrx-driver will be updated from there now? |
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| 05:45.38 | neilthereildeil | ok, it installed. i can avoid rebooting by just restarting kdm, right? |
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| 05:49.15 | neilthereildeil | cool that worked i think |
| 05:49.30 | neilthereildeil | how can i make sure i am using hardware acceleration for graphics now? |
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| 06:09.51 | SixtyFold | how do i do a dist-upgrade but exclude some packages? |
| 06:09.59 | SixtyFold | is there a option for this? |
| 06:10.13 | _FBi | && ;) |
| 06:10.45 | _FBi | ( I have no idea) |
| 06:11.01 | SixtyFold | && is and :P |
| 06:11.02 | jelly-home | SixtyFold: read /msg dpkg hold |
| 06:11.45 | arcke | neilthereildeil: to check if you have hardware acceleration enabled run the command "glxinfo | grep rendering" |
| 06:13.31 | arcke | neilthereildeil: and you should notice increased performance when running glxgears |
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| 06:24.19 | CygniX | does iptables v1.4.14 support ipv6 NAT? |
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| 06:25.21 | _FBi | I believe there is IPTAbles6 |
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| 06:26.04 | CygniX | no such package |
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| 06:26.43 | _FBi | hmm |
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| 06:27.35 | _FBi | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall |
| 06:27.38 | _FBi | ip6tables |
| 06:27.49 | pfsense_rookie | hmm, brilliant. Uninstall ATI proprietary graphics file system breaks, have to press "y" for 10 minutes and now a lot of programs don't work. |
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| 06:29.17 | CygniX | i wonder if there is a backport |
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| 06:31.05 | wojtas_ | hi all, i just buy smt like this http://www.galerieallegro.pl/zdjecia/ssd24g/3617381/2#zdj4 but when i plug in to my laptop, is't not recognizes as a disk, can smb know what shout i do? |
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| 06:31.44 | wojtas_ | in google i find out that system shoud find out as a normal disk |
| 06:32.39 | wojtas_ | for ex here http://pastebin.com/3fRywRtp and http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?p=4579319#p4579285 |
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| 06:55.50 | michaelis | Hi. How do you search for multiple keywords with apt-cache search? The man pages states that keywords can be and'ed. How do you do that? |
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| 06:56.33 | _FBi | I've never tried -- have you tried typing more words? |
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| 06:57.47 | nkuttler | michaelis: good question.. i have used grep.. for years |
| 06:57.57 | _FBi | that too |
| 06:58.06 | _FBi | tbh, I grep too |
| 06:58.20 | michaelis | nkuttler: Any good answer? I want to search for the keywords python and emacs. |
| 06:58.22 | nkuttler | michaelis: i think aptitude has funkier searching |
| 06:58.32 | michaelis | Maybe I will have to use grep then. |
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| 06:58.50 | _FBi | apt-cache search python | grep emacs |
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| 07:00.45 | michaelis | nkuttler: _FBi Thank you. |
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| 07:02.28 | SixtyFold | jelly-home: that didnt work |
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| 07:04.46 | jelly-home | SixtyFold: which method did you try, can you confirm the hold applied correctly? |
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| 07:08.21 | SixtyFold | i tried aptitude hold $package |
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| 07:08.42 | SixtyFold | maybe i did it wrong |
| 07:09.13 | SixtyFold | i typed sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude hold $google-chrome-stable |
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| 07:10.11 | rocko2 | what is contrib? |
| 07:10.19 | rocko2 | user contributed software? |
| 07:10.25 | themill | !contrib |
| 07:10.25 | dpkg | [contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ [wheezy|squeeze|jessie] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then «aptitude update». Also ask me about <non-free>, <contrib list>. |
| 07:10.27 | themill | no |
| 07:10.57 | rocko2 | !non-free |
| 07:10.57 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 07:11.28 | themill | rocko2: you can "/msg dpkg keywords" directly if you want. These things are defined in policy: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-contrib |
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| 07:12.18 | rocko2 | I see |
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| 07:14.34 | SixtyFold | jelly-home: im not typing it right i guess :| |
| 07:15.11 | jelly-home | SixtyFold: um... you have to hold it first, _then_ try to upgrade things? |
| 07:15.41 | jelly-home | SixtyFold: aptitude hold google-chrome-stable |
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| 07:16.35 | jelly-home | $package from the factoid is just borrowed shell syntax meaning "put the actual package name here" |
| 07:17.02 | SixtyFold | okay, i think this will work |
| 07:17.26 | SixtyFold | sudo aptitude hold google-chrome-stable && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 07:18.18 | Vahid | Hi, I just have a fast question LOL, For desktop user (Laptop) is the Wheezy-Backports stable ? |
| 07:18.35 | rocko2 | is sid testing? |
| 07:18.42 | SixtyFold | whole reason for this is that the new update to chrome that just came out bonks the shit out of the integrated flash player in it, it wont play any flash media, it just crashes them all haha |
| 07:18.48 | rocko2 | !sid |
| 07:18.49 | dpkg | i heard sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 07:19.15 | themill | Vahid: "wheezy-backports" isn't the thing you use though, it's "a few packages from wheezy-backports". |
| 07:19.27 | rocko2 | !testing |
| 07:19.28 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <jessie>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <wheezy->jessie> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 07:19.28 | jelly-home | Vahid: you're supposed to pick only the stuff you need from wheezy-backports, it is not a full distro. It should be safe if you use it correctly. |
| 07:19.32 | Vahid | honestly I don't like Gnome 3 and I want try MATE |
| 07:19.50 | babilen | Vahid: "stable" in Debian simply means "not changing" and backports are very much not stable in that sense (one reason why you want to install packages from there) -- Packages in there are, however, tested for a while and should be reasonably safe (and unproblematic) to use. |
| 07:19.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell rocko2 -about msgthebot |
| 07:20.26 | jelly-home | SixtyFold: 37.0.2062.120-1 ? |
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| 07:20.38 | SixtyFold | jelly-home: thanks, the last command i did held it |
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| 07:21.17 | SixtyFold | jelly-home: yes that but without the -1 after it |
| 07:21.19 | jelly-home | SixtyFold: which exact version of google-chrome-stable do you find problematic? |
| 07:21.26 | SixtyFold | just 37.0.2062.120 |
| 07:21.42 | themill | Vahid: I have no experience of MATE but yes, it should work just fine from wheezy-backports |
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| 07:22.07 | jelly-home | SixtyFold: ok. "apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable" says it's built for Debian as 37.0.2062.120-1 |
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| 07:23.15 | SixtyFold | jelly-home: yah, it's that one actually, it just doesnt show the -1 if you do about in chrome |
| 07:23.15 | SixtyFold | haha |
| 07:23.35 | Vahid | themill, what's your Desktop Enviroment? |
| 07:23.58 | themill | kde |
| 07:24.04 | _FBi | windows7 :( |
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| 07:25.59 | Vahid | I alwayse have issue with KDE ! but never tried on debian |
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| 07:26.23 | themill | I log in. It works. Has done quite happily for me for the last decade. |
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| 07:27.26 | _FBi | themill, never reboot |
| 07:27.55 | CygniX | !build |
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| 07:28.02 | CygniX | !compile |
| 07:28.02 | dpkg | tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package, or something you should only do if you're SURE there isn't already a debian package that meets your needs, and never into places that could conflict with dpkg |
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| 07:29.05 | jelly-home | SixtyFold: weird, the 32bit one works here |
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| 07:30.40 | SixtyFold | it's the 64 bit one that is crashing constantly |
| 07:30.45 | SixtyFold | it's just now from the latest update |
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| 07:34.47 | lucck | ls |
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| 07:38.27 | Bulld0zer | Greetings, I have a box running wheezy that has problems with vlan interfaces.. Specifically 2 physical interfaces with 2 vlan interfaces on each.. Problem is that on one of the physical interfaces only one of the vlan interfaces gets brought up on boot... Thoughts? |
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| 07:41.26 | ChrisH | Bulld0zer: not that I have ever used VLAN on Debian, but you should show the config used on paste.debian.net |
| 07:43.23 | jelly-home | Bulld0zer: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and output of "ip l" and "ip a" or "ifconfig -a" |
| 07:43.25 | wojtas_ | Bulld0zer: show tail -n 300 /proc/net/vlan/* |
| 07:43.43 | Bulld0zer | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/WQkntGyL |
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| 07:44.07 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: That's part of the problem I think... The troubling vlan is not added in /proc/net/vlan |
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| 07:44.31 | Bulld0zer | But I can add it manually after boot... |
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| 07:46.51 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: http://pastebin.com/4Q6pXyVz |
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| 07:48.02 | wojtas_ | Bulld0zer: but you up then mamualy ? |
| 07:48.32 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: Only the vlan interface that does not get brought up on boot |
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| 07:48.52 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: and that works without error |
| 07:49.35 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: just a vconfig add eth1 ... |
| 07:50.00 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: and /etc/network/interfaces looks exactly the same for all vlan interfaces |
| 07:51.14 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: kernel log does not log anything about the troubling vlan interface... thinking it could be a driver issue but that seems unlikely? |
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| 07:51.31 | wojtas_ | Bulld0zer: lol add auto eth1 and auto eth2 to |
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| 07:51.46 | wojtas_ | Bulld0zer: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:51.59 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: lol sure... but I bet you that will not change anything |
| 07:52.44 | wojtas_ | Bulld0zer: after reboot You have only eth0, riht ? |
| 07:52.51 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: No |
| 07:53.17 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: after reboot i have eth0 plus eth1.119 and both eth2 vlan interfaces |
| 07:53.21 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: :) |
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| 07:53.47 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: Only interface missing is eth1.120 |
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| 07:54.02 | wojtas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.02 | wojtas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.02 | wojtas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.02 | wojtas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.02 | wojtas_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:54.33 | wojtas_ | sorry :P |
| 07:54.38 | wojtas_ | Bulld0zer: priv |
| 07:54.49 | Bulld0zer | wojtas_: Sure |
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| 07:59.47 | jelly-home | wojtas_: auto eth1 doesn't make sense when there's no configuration assigned to it |
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| 08:02.04 | jelly-home | wojtas_: the issue was a typo in line 17, not that it matters now |
| 08:02.30 | wojtas_ | jelly-home: yep :) |
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| 08:11.21 | alexandernst_ | Why Debian Stable has NGINX 1.2.1, when the latest version in that branch is 1.2.9 (including some security fixes) ? |
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| 08:12.58 | Penix | alexandernst_: have you read the package changelog? |
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| 08:13.29 | alexandernst_ | Penix: you mean this one http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/n/nginx/nginx_1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2_changelog ? |
| 08:14.53 | Penix | alexandernst_: yes |
| 08:15.31 | Penix | alexandernst_: the nginx advisories page mentions versions which are vulnerable. none of the 2014 ones seems to apply to 1.2.x |
| 08:15.41 | alexandernst_ | Penix: yes, I have. And I'm still not happy. According to https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/nginx Stable is vulnerable |
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| 08:19.02 | cafuego | it's a penix |
| 08:19.20 | nkuttler | alexandernst_: which vulnerability are you concerned about? |
| 08:19.44 | alexandernst_ | nkuttler: CVE-2011-4968 |
| 08:20.23 | nkuttler | alexandernst_: you proxy through an insecure network? |
| 08:20.54 | alexandernst_ | nkuttler: would the problem magically dissapear if I answer "no" ? |
| 08:21.11 | alexandernst_ | (and what would be the answer if I answer "yes"?) |
| 08:21.27 | nkuttler | alexandernst_: if you don't have an answer to that question, who cares |
| 08:21.36 | MrStrike | where in the firewall chain is the best place to add rules for forwarding port on extr ip to an internal ip for a vm using qemu-kvm on debian 7? |
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| 08:21.48 | cafuego | If the answer were yes, a vulnerability in nginx would be the least of yuor issues ;-) |
| 08:22.44 | cafuego | If the answer is no, then you have control of the upstream servers, so if there's a problem you created the problem. |
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| 08:25.04 | alexandernst_ | Ok, one last question. Will I have any problems/incompatibilities with ISPConfig if I turn on wheezy backports ? |
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| 08:26.09 | t3ngu | alexandernst_: if I was so concerned i would have compiled the version of nginx that i desire, package it, and use it on the system in question. |
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| 08:27.59 | cafuego | alexandernst_: As a rule, no.. but individual packages might end up with conflicting depends, depdnding on which packported packages you install. |
| 08:28.32 | cafuego | If you install a backport that wants to upgrade libc6, maybe choose 'No' ;-) |
| 08:28.44 | alexandernst_ | cafuego: is there a list I could check and see what conflicts I could end up with? |
| 08:28.58 | cafuego | I don't think so |
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| 08:31.15 | alexandernst_ | are there any signs/guidance/whatever I can follow so I don't end up with a broken server? I mean, I do want to enable backports because of a few things, but I really don't want to break anything |
| 08:31.44 | cafuego | Basically just use common sense. Don't install soemthing that wants to replace a million core packages with new versions. |
| 08:32.17 | alexandernst_ | is nginx from backports fine to install? |
| 08:32.33 | cafuego | aptitude install it and see what it wants to replace :-) |
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| 08:34.21 | MrStrike | where in the firewall chain is the best place to add rules for forwarding port on extr ip to an internal ip for a vm using qemu-kvm on debian 7? |
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| 08:35.13 | cafuego | nat PREROUTING i think |
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| 08:36.51 | t3ngu | i think you think correctly cafuego |
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| 08:37.05 | dmi3on | may be i am tired, i can figure out why chrome can find flash plugin |
| 08:37.43 | dmi3on | i copied it most folders with name plugin :) and with chmod 7777 |
| 08:37.45 | nkuttler | !tell dmi3on about pepperflash |
| 08:37.46 | dmi3on | 777* |
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| 08:38.03 | dmi3on | nkuttler: i downloaded from adobe website |
| 08:38.04 | nkuttler | dmi3on: never use 777 on any file, and just install the package |
| 08:38.09 | nkuttler | dmi3on: yeah, don't do that |
| 08:38.14 | dmi3on | and fallowed there guide |
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| 08:38.24 | dmi3on | nkuttler: thanks I know just testing |
| 08:38.31 | cynicallemon | 777 on a flash player api - yep thats asking for it |
| 08:38.36 | dmi3on | i will delete all this files heh |
| 08:39.10 | dmi3on | cynicallemon: I am deleting all files any away |
| 08:39.32 | dmi3on | wired is i can play some youtube videos |
| 08:39.52 | cynicallemon | dmi3on: you should just install chromium-browser and pepperflash-nonfree |
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| 08:40.38 | cynicallemon | dmi3on: youtube vids may be html5 that you can see |
| 08:41.18 | dmi3on | cynicallemon: papperfalsh-nonfree not fund by aptitude and apt-get, even tryed backports |
| 08:41.25 | dmi3on | i have wheezy 7 |
| 08:41.33 | dmi3on | just wheezy |
| 08:41.56 | jelly | !tell dmi3on about contrib |
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| 08:42.40 | cynicallemon | dmi3on: sorry pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 08:42.50 | dmi3on | jelly: did you ready even what i said ? |
| 08:42.50 | cynicallemon | in wheezy backports |
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| 08:43.02 | jelly | dmi3on: did you enable contrib? |
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| 08:43.11 | dmi3on | cynicallemon tried with backports |
| 08:43.17 | dmi3on | samething :( |
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| 08:43.28 | dmi3on | and its not on backports website also :( |
| 08:43.37 | cynicallemon | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 08:44.45 | jelly | dmi3on: that can happen if you do not have contrib repository component enabled, try not to be flippant |
| 08:45.24 | cafuego | sets her hair on fire and runs away |
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| 08:46.40 | dmi3on | cynicallemon: http://pastebin.com/4YjjQU02 |
| 08:46.44 | dmi3on | this is what i get |
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| 08:49.46 | dmi3on | jelly: http://pastie.org/9541369 my sources.list |
| 08:49.57 | dmi3on | any suggestion what else can it by ? |
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| 08:50.23 | cynicallemon | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free |
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| 08:50.41 | cynicallemon | change it to that |
| 08:50.53 | dmi3on | jelly: sorry |
| 08:50.56 | cynicallemon | and apt-get update |
| 08:51.02 | dmi3on | cynicallemon: thanks |
| 08:51.29 | dmi3on | so adobe original driver is not working with debian and chrome ? |
| 08:52.03 | jelly | chrome 35 and newer do not support plugins with old NP API |
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| 08:52.56 | dmi3on | we need to wait for update ? |
| 08:53.20 | dmi3on | or papper is native driver for chrome ? |
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| 08:54.18 | dmi3on | i would not use chrome but nothing is faster :( |
| 08:54.45 | jelly | pepper is chromium and chrome's own API, yes |
| 08:54.53 | cynicallemon | pepperflash is the native flash api for chrome/chromium |
| 08:55.10 | dmi3on | oh cool |
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| 08:55.36 | jelly | amusingly, that pepperflashplugin-nonfree installer downloads the whole of Google Chrome, only to slice out and use just one plugin |
| 08:55.57 | cynicallemon | jelly: lol yeah quite amusing |
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| 08:56.25 | cynicallemon | jelly: its almost worth just installing chrome itself |
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| 08:56.59 | jelly | well chrome has some other annoyances that might not be enabled in chromium by default |
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| 08:57.30 | cynicallemon | jelly: yes and google spying |
| 08:57.48 | jelly | that's what I meant. |
| 08:57.55 | cynicallemon | :) |
| 08:58.14 | jelly | I wouldn't go that far to call sending partial search queries spying |
| 08:58.21 | dmi3on | now i get error could not load shockwave Flash :( |
| 08:58.50 | cynicallemon | jelly: well RMS does :) |
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| 09:00.05 | anyMoreHC | --||| |
| 09:00.44 | anyMoreHC | I think I should improve my English skills |
| 09:01.14 | anyMoreHC | wtf you say i really can not understand at all |
| 09:01.39 | dmi3on | anyMoreHC: my ? :( |
| 09:01.53 | rocko2 | RMS! |
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| 09:02.03 | anyMoreHC | sorry,i am not point at anyone |
| 09:02.04 | rocko2 | RMS is the FUTURE! |
| 09:02.21 | dmi3on | whats RMS ? |
| 09:03.08 | dmi3on | i get error "Could not load Shockwave Falsh" but flash is enabled papperflash |
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| 09:05.04 | anyMoreHC | quite amusing to check out what your have listed |
| 09:05.12 | anyMoreHC | on my screen.. |
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| 09:16.42 | dmi3on | ok, so i had to disable flashplugin in chrome, and there is no more errors |
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| 09:16.50 | dmi3on | any one has a min to explain why ? |
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| 09:26.22 | nido_ | does anyone know where the network is created that kvm virtual machines try to connect to? |
| 09:26.39 | dmi3on | is there any better browser then chrome, on my setup is x5 times faster then iceweasel or midori |
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| 09:27.17 | nido_ | depends on ones definition of better. links may be a LOT faster if that is your only measure |
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| 09:27.49 | nido_ | though most people do not consider lack of javascript a plus, so your milage may vary |
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| 09:29.12 | Kismet010 | hi |
| 09:29.20 | pexy_ | Hello. I can't make a bash regular expression work in Debian 7 (Bash 4.2) which works in Debian 6 (Bash 4.1). http://pastebin.com/z6zJZAtc The same pattern doesn't match with egrep either in Debian 7. What am i missing? |
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| 09:32.56 | dmi3on | i don't webpages are opening much more faster, scrolling, forward/backward way more responsive, so far huge deffirence |
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| 09:35.35 | themill | pexy_: that works just fine here. |
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| 09:36.48 | MrStrike | good morning |
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| 09:37.39 | jelly | pexy_: which locale is active for collation? (look at output of "locale" command, LC_COLLATE line) Does export LC_ALL=C and trying again make a difference? |
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| 10:26.54 | edoardo | hello, i don't know if it's a debian question or not |
| 10:27.08 | edoardo | however, i bought a game and even if i +x it i can't run it |
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| 10:27.19 | edoardo | edoardo@localhost:~/Gunpoint$ chmod +x Gunpoint |
| 10:27.26 | edoardo | edoardo@localhost:~/Gunpoint$ ./Gunpoint |
| 10:27.38 | edoardo | bash: ./Gunpoint: File or directory not found |
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| 10:27.56 | jelly | edoardo: what do "file ./Gunpoint" and "dpkg --print-architecture" say? |
| 10:28.15 | edoardo | edoardo@localhost:~/Gunpoint$ file ./Gunpoint |
| 10:28.15 | edoardo | ./Gunpoint: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=8a0e3f97e52cfa9c1722fca29fbba82e7f936f43, stripped |
| 10:28.26 | jelly | so that's a 32bit binary |
| 10:28.27 | edoardo | and amd64 |
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| 10:28.34 | jelly | and a 64bit system |
| 10:28.35 | edoardo | oh, so i need shared libs |
| 10:28.45 | jelly | !ia32-libs |
| 10:28.46 | dpkg | ia32-* packages provide a subset of libraries from <i386> for <amd64> systems. They are typically needed by 32-bit only software (such as <skype> or <wine>) and have been obsoleted in Debian 7 "Wheezy" by the introduction of <multiarch>. Wheezy users should ask me about <upgrade ia32 libs> for upgrade instructions. |
| 10:29.10 | edoardo | i'm on jessie, should i install them? |
| 10:29.14 | edoardo | since they are deprecated |
| 10:29.46 | jelly | edoardo: well, start with /msg dpkg multiarch howto and /msg dpkg upgrade ia32 libs |
| 10:29.50 | rocko2 | is there a tool to check which proxies work in a text file? |
| 10:29.57 | rocko2 | I think there is but I forget its name |
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| 10:30.29 | anikras | hello |
| 10:30.41 | edoardo | thank you jelly |
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| 10:30.45 | anikras | i have a problem with jre in google-stable |
| 10:30.51 | edoardo | also, with debian lxde, how can i set the default browser>? |
| 10:31.00 | anikras | it isn't working |
| 10:31.13 | edoardo | i guess is lxpanel of something like this, but i can't find anything in the preferences |
| 10:31.39 | anikras | i did install icedtea, and jre oracle |
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| 10:31.57 | anikras | i created directory /opt/google/chrome/plugins |
| 10:32.01 | anikras | but not working |
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| 10:34.12 | edoardo | oh cool |
| 10:34.19 | edoardo | so that's why i couldn't install some software |
| 10:34.24 | edoardo | it was onli 32bit! |
| 10:34.27 | ChrisH | anikras: why not using chromium and idetea plugings from debian repos. /opt/google does not match any debian package |
| 10:34.28 | edoardo | *only |
| 10:34.59 | anikras | ok |
| 10:35.07 | anikras | i test install chromium |
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| 10:36.10 | rocko2 | what is a debian approved vpn service? |
| 10:36.49 | ChrisH | rocko2: what do you mean? OpenVPN, PPTP or IPSec or something completely different? |
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| 10:37.26 | rocko2 | the service provider you use to connect to from openvpn |
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| 10:40.15 | Rhomber | Heya |
| 10:41.05 | Rhomber | anyone know where I can get a modern version of the nvidia proprietry drivers and bumblebee? having a heck of a time with my NVidia GTX 870.. the driver that is in backports is 20 versions behind what I need |
| 10:41.09 | edoardo | i can't install ia32 libs on jessie |
| 10:41.12 | edoardo | what happened? |
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| 10:42.19 | ChrisH | edoardo did you see this line and followed the suggestion? 12:29 < jelly> edoardo: well, start with /msg dpkg multiarch howto and /msg dpkg upgrade ia32 libs |
| 10:42.25 | edoardo | yes |
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| 10:42.58 | edoardo | but i don't need to install i386 packages, i need to run a i386 binary on my amd64 machine |
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| 10:43.05 | edoardo | and i can't find ia32-libs anywhere |
| 10:43.15 | edoardo | at least in jessie/testing |
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| 10:44.07 | andie | Hello everybody! For a package I wish to install, I need a newer libgcrypt11. Installed (in wheezy) is 1.5.0, it needs 1.5.1. I see hell of a lot of packages use libgcrypt11. Will upgrading it to 1.5.4 from Jessie break everything? Nothing in wheezy-backports, as far as I can see.. |
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| 10:44.20 | babilen | Rhomber: You can either: 1. Backport a newer driver yourself 2. Install the driver from nvidia.org and accept that it stomps over symlinks and is not supported 3. Track testing or unstable or 4. Get the maintainer to backport 340 from jessie to wheezy-backports |
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| 10:45.34 | ChrisH | edoardo: looks like you did not read, there are no ia32-libs anylonger. ask dpkg for multiarch |
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| 10:46.29 | Rhomber | babilen: I had hoped others may have already experienced my woes and there was another repo somewhere.. I already installed the Nvidia 340 properietry drivers.. and compiled and installed bumblebee by hand.. I have no idea what it's mean to be doing / how it works.. but seems really unstable and all I really want is my nvidia card, not the intel one.. :/ |
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| 10:48.39 | foraay | dmesg -T shows me: Out of memory in UB 16112: OOM killed process (update-apt-xapi). Can I purge remove the apt-xapian-index package? |
| 10:49.58 | babilen | Rhomber: Well, 340 is only available in testing or unstable at the moment and I am not aware of any unofficial backports. Why did you compile bumblebee manually? 3.2.1 is in wheezy-backports! |
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| 10:50.56 | babilen | foraay: You can, but there might be other processes that gobble(d) up your memory. What else is running and uses lots of it? |
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| 10:55.06 | foraay | babilen: shouldn't be nothing else using so much ram..It's update-apt-xapi process started automatically once a week |
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| 10:56.41 | babilen | How much did it require? |
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| 10:57.52 | foraay | I don't know since now it's not running and when it was I wasn't logged in to the vps, that has 128MB of ram |
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| 11:08.13 | Rhomber | babilen: the bumblebee-nvidia installs the old nvidia driver :( so I figured I had to compile it by hand.. |
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| 11:12.07 | babilen | judd: depends bumblebee-nvidia --release=wheezy-backports |
| 11:12.08 | judd | Package bumblebee-nvidia in wheezy-backports/i386 -- depends: bumblebee (= 3.2.1-4~bpo70+1), nvidia-driver | nvidia-glx | nvidia-kernel-dkms | nvidia-kernel-amd64 | nvidia-kernel-686-pae | nvidia-kernel-486 | nvidia | nvidia-current | nvidia-current-updates | nvidia-304 | nvidia-304-updates | nvidia-experimental-304 | nvidia-310 | nvidia-310-updates | nvidia-experimental-310 | nvidia-313 | nvidia-313-updates | |
| 11:12.09 | judd | nvidia-experimental-313 | nvidia-319 | nvidia-319-updates | nvidia-experimental-319 | nvidia-325 | nvidia-325-updates | nvidia-experimental-325. |
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| 11:12.24 | gXen | hi, my software clock is 2min wrong... when I set it correctly via 'date...' after a while its readjusted automatically to the wrong time (2min wrong) |
| 11:12.26 | babilen | Rhomber: You don't have to, but *something* must satisfy one of those dependencies ^^^ |
| 11:12.36 | gXen | any idea what could cause this auto-readjustment? |
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| 11:13.09 | gXen | I dont have any tasks in my cron that does this readjustment |
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| 11:14.02 | Rhomber | hmm, well the driver should be installed |
| 11:14.20 | ChrisH | gXen: use ntp not cron |
| 11:14.39 | gXen | ChrisH, I am not using cron |
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| 11:15.24 | dgeary2 | in a mdadm superblock format 1.0, why is the superblock offset recorded in the superblock? refer https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_superblock_formats |
| 11:15.38 | gXen | something is resetting the time and I cant set it correctly and then it readjusting again... its a production server, where timestamps are important |
| 11:15.50 | ChrisH | gXen: are you using ntp? If not, PC Hardware is known to be not very excat |
| 11:16.29 | gXen | i am not using ntp. if I use it, will the software clock not be reset to the hardware clock? |
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| 11:17.20 | jelly | gXen: a physical machine or a VM? |
| 11:17.25 | gXen | VM |
| 11:17.50 | alexandernst_ | how can I resize a currently running Debian server's / partition? |
| 11:17.51 | jelly | gXen: it might be the host or the vm additions that are setting the clock |
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| 11:18.18 | jelly | gXen: consult the documentation for the specific VM solution on how to set time properly with a Linux VM |
| 11:18.26 | gXen | ok, thx |
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| 11:19.53 | dgeary2 | alexandernst_, how is the root volume configured? |
| 11:20.29 | alexandernst_ | dgeary2: it's a software RAID partition, but I'm not sure if it's using LVM (don't know how to check, sorry) |
| 11:20.52 | alexandernst_ | dgeary2: there is an empty /home partition that is taking all the space |
| 11:20.55 | dgeary2 | alexandernst_, which filesystem? are you using software raid, lvm? if so, which type? |
| 11:20.59 | Rhomber | lol, the nividia proprietry drivers won't let me install whilst the debian packages are installed :( |
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| 11:21.15 | alexandernst_ | dgeary2: I want to remove the /home partition (easy, just delede that line from fstab), and then make / use the space from /home |
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| 11:21.57 | dgeary2 | alexandernst_, understood, which partitioning scheme? |
| 11:22.34 | alexandernst_ | dgeary2: I'm sorry, what do you mean by "partition scheme" ? |
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| 11:24.12 | alexandernst_ | dgeary2: maybe http://pastebin.com/KqtMY2Ui ? |
| 11:25.56 | b-tag | Guys, how do I fond whether a library is installed and of what version? |
| 11:26.31 | b-tag | Say, I need to install a software, who requires e.g. pygtk >=2.12 |
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| 11:28.00 | alexandernst_ | dgeary2: also http://pastebin.com/bM4aZPd0 |
| 11:28.18 | jj-- | helloo debian has nano by default? |
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| 11:29.55 | themill | ,v python-gtk2 |
| 11:29.56 | judd | Package: python-gtk2 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.17.0-4; wheezy: 2.24.0-3+b1; jessie: 2.24.0-4; sid: 2.24.0-4 |
| 11:29.57 | themill | b-tag: ^^ |
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| 11:31.31 | b-tag | themill, so I just need to check whether I have python-gtk2 installed... |
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| 11:33.24 | themill | b-tag: assuming that's the right package -- python projects don't use names that uniformly represent what they actually provide. |
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| 11:41.23 | b-tag | ty, themill |
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| 11:54.41 | fdsaf | hello. is there option for slow formating when i install debian? slow formating (check for bad blocks) like in windows xp. |
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| 11:55.36 | banjo | ive set x-terminal-emulator to urxvt. but now when i start 'x-terminal-emulator' it doesnt read the 'Urxvt*'-settings in .Xdefaults/.Xresources. starting urxvt works fine. how to fix it? |
| 11:55.36 | L0aD1nG | hello people! |
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| 11:56.53 | t3ngu | fdsaf: # man badblocks |
| 11:57.23 | L0aD1nG | I am experiencing a problem on both debian stable and backports, when I try to shutdown the computer sometimes it stacks on "Power off" and it doesn't shut down, I searched on google but wasn't able to find something interesting about my problem. |
| 11:57.30 | fdsaf | t3ngu, but is there no option in the default installation? |
| 11:57.39 | L0aD1nG | anyone have any idea what would maybe be causing this? |
| 11:57.55 | t3ngu | fdsaf: what do you mean no option? |
| 11:58.42 | fdsaf | in windows xp i can select slow formating or fast formating. is there something similar to debian? |
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| 11:59.41 | banjo | L0aD1nG: ive the same problem. even with reboot. it started when systemd came as default in testing. ive switched back to sysv but still have this problem |
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| 12:00.26 | fdsaf | t3ngu, in windows xp i can select slow formating or fast formating. is there something similar to debian? |
| 12:00.27 | banjo | stable works as it should here |
| 12:01.43 | t3ngu | fdsaf: i dont do XP. if you want to check for bad secods thats the command to do it. |
| 12:01.59 | t3ngu | i said man so you can see what it does and how to use it. |
| 12:02.19 | dgeary2 | alexandernst_, looks like you have a GPT partition table, try using parted or gdisk to view it |
| 12:02.24 | fdsaf | t3ngu, ok thanks |
| 12:02.26 | L0aD1nG | banjo: I checked out something about adding to the grub.cfg file this line "acpi = force quit" or something similar I can't remember totally clear atm man, but I didn't think that it was helpful and didn't try it out. Because its so weird, the computer seems to react normally all the time just sometimes does that. I am about reporting the bug on the official debian site if hasn't been reported allready I just need some pictures |
| 12:02.40 | L0aD1nG | I would like to take some opinions if possible from jelly |
| 12:03.15 | L0aD1nG | also from SynrG if he is available and wanna help |
| 12:03.45 | L0aD1nG | so I can solve it, it is currently happening on 3 from the 11 persons that I have installed debian stable on them |
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| 12:04.16 | L0aD1nG | one of them switched to backports though |
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| 12:05.16 | kernalogs | root terminal open? |
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| 12:07.58 | banjo | L0aD1nG: i didnt found any bugreport to this but didnt report either because dont know what package it should be. cause systemd is gone here. but i wonder why you have problems with stable |
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| 12:08.53 | dgeary2 | alexandernst_, deleting the volume mounted at /home is a bit more involved than deleting its entry in /etc/fstab. you will also need to unmount it and stop /dev/md3 (and possibly zero its superblock) |
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| 12:10.54 | banjo | i checked everything and only URxvt.perl-ext-common and URxvt.matcher.button is being read by x-terminal-emulator |
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| 12:13.19 | banjo | ah now ive got it x-terminal-emulator reads 'URxvt*' but not 'urxvt*' |
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| 12:17.42 | L0aD1nG | bajno: I don't have problems on stable (though I use backports now for fan speed improvement but used stable for long time), never happened on a PC of mine, but it happened to 3 persons 2 of whom are friends of mine and I know they don't do shit usage of the internet plus installing anything on the computer by their own. Its so weird... Should I find out what is the package that causing the problem to make a report?? |
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| 12:18.34 | L0aD1nG | I don't think that I need to know information, I could upload or send a picture if more info is needed I can't really understand what would be causing it cause it happens so rarely.. not all the time |
| 12:19.37 | banjo | L0aD1nG: dont really know the bugreporting system if a packagename is needed or not |
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| 12:36.29 | bonobomapper | Anyone here can tell me what is the best IM client now for Debian? Something like Pidgin/Adium? |
| 12:37.23 | jelly | pidgin seems good enough except for irc |
| 12:37.25 | shay_shay | Pidgin |
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| 12:37.48 | croddy | if it doesn't work in bitlbee i fail to see why i should have to use it |
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| 12:40.11 | bonobomapper | thanks |
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| 12:48.39 | dubtech | hi. i'm running debian on a thinkpad x220 which has the fn key left to the ctrl key. i would like to bind fn+backspace to function exactly the same as the delete key - any hint what to look for? |
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| 12:50.08 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 12:50.23 | xemdetia | I ran apt-get source on a package. Where does this all end up? |
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| 12:50.40 | nkuttler | xemdetia: cwd |
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| 12:51.07 | johnfg | If I want to run git instaweb (on wheezy), and use the default port, I need apache2 to listen to port 1234. |
| 12:51.17 | xemdetia | nkuttler, thanks I was looking everywhere other than under my nose. :) |
| 12:51.22 | nkuttler | xemdetia: hehe |
| 12:51.23 | jorge | how do I know what my host name is? |
| 12:51.49 | jorge | I mean domain name |
| 12:51.50 | nkuttler | jorge: use hostname |
| 12:51.51 | johnfg | Do I just set that in /etc/apache2/ports.conf as 'Listen 1234' ? |
| 12:51.57 | nkuttler | jorge: domain? smb stuff? |
| 12:52.22 | jorge | no I am doing a netinstall and it is asking for domain name nkuttler |
| 12:52.23 | nkuttler | johnfg: you'll probably also have to configure the virtual host to bind to that port |
| 12:52.34 | jorge | how do I find out what it is on my host machine? |
| 12:52.36 | nkuttler | jorge: just leave it empty |
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| 12:55.42 | johnfg | nkuttler: Do I need a whole other stanza beginning with: <VirtualHost *:1234> like what's in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default? |
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| 13:00.41 | jorge | is it safe to use words in passwords if you use numbers, lower and upper case and special symbols too? |
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| 13:01.26 | avshalom | jorge: if there is a question in your mind, don't use words |
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| 13:04.08 | lorenzo | hi, can anyone help me set up a scsi tape drive? |
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| 13:05.05 | lorenzo | http://pastebin.com/ZuzzzfuU |
| 13:05.08 | lorenzo | here's dmesg output |
| 13:05.10 | lorenzo | I've loaded st too |
| 13:05.16 | lorenzo | but I can't find the st0 device |
| 13:06.10 | jackbrown | does anyone knows a fast way to convert a PDF file to a PDF/A format ?pppppppppp |
| 13:06.12 | Brigo | lorenzo, we need more log, this is too short. |
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| 13:06.36 | thomas_sch | I'm running debian wheezy and want to install a few libs/programs from jessie.Can I really deb $url jessie main contrib non-free and do an update,upgrade or could this break my setup? (I don't want to dist-upgrade just yet) |
| 13:06.42 | lorenzo | Brigo: full dmesg? |
| 13:07.01 | Brigo | lorenzo, for example |
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| 13:07.33 | lorenzo | http://pastebin.com/Hu7vbUVG |
| 13:07.49 | jorge | what should I use debian stable, testing or sid? |
| 13:07.58 | jorge | is sid safe to use? |
| 13:08.03 | jelly | jorge: stable. no. |
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| 13:08.36 | jorge | ubuntu uses sid so ubuntu is not safe? |
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| 13:09.05 | jelly | jorge: ubuntu does LOTS of work to make their distro usable and safe |
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| 13:12.15 | lorenzo | uff |
| 13:12.18 | lorenzo | looks like the device is deteted |
| 13:12.21 | lorenzo | but not attached by default |
| 13:12.22 | lorenzo | how do I do that? |
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| 13:24.41 | Brigo | lorenzo, what disk, i see at least 2 disks |
| 13:24.57 | lorenzo | Brigo: tape drive |
| 13:24.59 | lorenzo | not disk |
| 13:26.17 | midacts | is there a way to have a script run (to open an internet browser) after startx is run |
| 13:26.19 | Brigo | lorenzo, this? Vendor: SEAGATE Model: DAT DAT72-052 Revision: A060 |
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| 13:26.40 | lorenzo | Brigo: correct |
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| 13:38.55 | txomon|fon | you guys for sure know. resolv.conf is shitty when speaking about having several dns servers, (for example, VPN), and you have 2, non-regular nameserver, one local and another in the VP |
| 13:38.58 | txomon|fon | VPN* |
| 13:39.08 | txomon|fon | do you know any way to achieve this automatically? |
| 13:39.20 | txomon|fon | http://superuser.com/questions/690751/use-vpn-dns-only-for-domains-matching-a-pattern-otherwise-continue-to-use-isp-d |
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| 13:40.29 | rozie | txomon|fon: you can setup dnsmasq on local machine |
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| 13:40.54 | rozie | it can ask several dns servers at the same time |
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| 13:43.39 | txomon|fon | rozie, and make it dynamic depending on which VPN I am connected to? |
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| 13:44.45 | rozie | well, don't know what is your case exactly |
| 13:44.52 | txomon|fon | have a local domain |
| 13:44.55 | txomon|fon | i.e. .home |
| 13:45.00 | txomon|fon | and connect to office |
| 13:45.06 | txomon|fon | VPN, .ofi |
| 13:45.16 | txomon|fon | how will it handle where to send requests |
| 13:45.18 | oskie | I need to set up a new disk for EFI boot (not secure). The Debian installer does that automatically. But how do you do set up that once installed? |
| 13:45.19 | txomon|fon | if I don't configure it |
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| 13:45.33 | yates | in the aptitude reference manual topic "Searching for strings", the following is stated: Regular expression metacharacters include: â+â, â-â, â.â, â(â, â)â, â|â, â[â, â]â, â^â, â$â, and â?â. Note that some of these are also aptitude metacharacters, so if you want to type (for instance) a literal â|â, it must be double-escaped: â\~|â. |
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| 13:46.24 | yates | i want to search for "g++", so i entered "g\~+\~+", but i'm getting "E: Regex compilation error: trailing backslash" |
| 13:46.58 | yates | why? |
| 13:47.15 | txomon|fon | I don't think you need that much |
| 13:48.09 | txomon|fon | g++ alone doesn't work? |
| 13:48.24 | themill | yates: + is not an aptitude metacharacter |
| 13:48.41 | yates | themill: you contradict the manual |
| 13:48.49 | themill | yates: I do not. |
| 13:48.59 | Phyliares | yates: g\+\+ |
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| 13:49.05 | yates | it is a "Regular expression metacharacter" |
| 13:49.09 | yates | http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s01.html |
| 13:49.12 | yates | see note 12 there |
| 13:49.16 | themill | yates: which is not an aptitude metacharacter. |
| 13:49.22 | jorge | why is erasing a virtual drive take so long? |
| 13:49.30 | themill | yates: the specific example of g++ is even given on that page |
| 13:49.38 | txomon|fon | jorge, are you putting all 0? |
| 13:49.53 | txomon|fon | xD |
| 13:49.56 | jorge | no |
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| 13:50.03 | themill | yates: you might also find the more up-to-date documentation at http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s01.html useful |
| 13:50.04 | rozie | txomon|fon: you can ask all defined NSes at the same time with dnsmasq |
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| 13:50.19 | jorge | it is standard installation on netinstall graphical |
| 13:50.19 | txomon|fon | oh ok |
| 13:50.20 | jorge | in a VM |
| 13:50.35 | rozie | or, as written in example, you can ask defined NS for given domain |
| 13:50.37 | txomon|fon | so I should stop using networkmanager to achieve that I suppose, shouldn't I ? |
| 13:51.07 | txomon|fon | jorge, you have the console in F4 |
| 13:51.13 | txomon|fon | you might have some info there |
| 13:51.17 | rozie | just run dnsmasq on localhost and setup NM to use 127.0.0.1 as DNS server |
| 13:51.27 | rozie | (not use DNS from DHCP) |
| 13:51.30 | yates | themill: oh, i see. thanks. thanks for the updated reference too |
| 13:51.42 | rozie | not sure if NM has such an option, wicd has it for sure |
| 13:51.53 | txomon|fon | yeah :( |
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| 13:52.17 | txomon|fon | and I have to configure in dnsmasq the DNS servers |
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| 13:52.51 | rozie | you can use resolv.conf for this |
| 13:52.57 | themill | network-manager does have that option too |
| 13:53.46 | rozie | IIRC dnsmasq uses reslov.conf by default |
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| 13:54.36 | jorge | txomon|fon, just shows that it downloaded or got some from the cd image for encryption |
| 13:54.43 | jorge | software |
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| 14:00.03 | yates | does the apt package system have a thing like yum's "groups", i.e., that group packages into functional groups? |
| 14:00.20 | aktau | Hey guys, I've been trying all kinds of mirrors but I keep getting things like "W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80]" on my wheezy boxes |
| 14:00.44 | aktau | Very similar results for other mirrors (US, Europe, ...) |
| 14:00.57 | babilen | yates: What would that be used for? |
| 14:01.17 | aktau | Checking out the ftp server I see that Packages.gz and Packages.bz2 exist, but Packages doesn't |
| 14:01.26 | aktau | How can I tell my apt-get to ask for the compressed versions? |
| 14:02.03 | themill | aktau: it automatically does |
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| 14:02.31 | babilen | aktau: Mind sharing your actual setup and the resulting errors/warnings on http://paste.debian.net ? (and please don't use ftp.debian.org) |
| 14:02.47 | yates | installing all packages in a functional group, e.g., c/c++ development. instead of have to install a dozen packages individually. it is quite nice, actually. |
| 14:03.04 | themill | yates: there are task-* packages that do some of that. You can also either make your own metapackages really easily with the "equivs" package or make your own groups with aptitude's tagging features |
| 14:03.21 | yates | ok, thanks. |
| 14:04.23 | aktau | babilen: I will. Btw, why shouldn't I use ftp.debian.org? |
| 14:04.27 | themill | yates: there's about 4500 packages that are for "c/c++ development". You probably don't want them all... if it's just the toolchain you want then just install build-essential. |
| 14:04.38 | aktau | babilen: my config was (is) generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/, btw |
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| 14:05.01 | themill | aktau: ick :( |
| 14:05.16 | themill | !debgen |
| 14:05.16 | dpkg | Websites that generate a <sources.list> for you (like http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/) create terrible sources.list files, encourage you to mix releases or even distributions and do silly things like using "stable" instead of the code name. Instead, ask me about <wheezy sources.list> or <jessie sources.list>. |
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| 14:06.11 | aktau | themill: yes, I changed stable to wheezy myself, but otherwise I used a generated file |
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| 14:06.43 | babilen | aktau: Because not every user should use the same server and because we provide a plethora of mirrors. Also: DO NOT USE debgen.simplylinux.ch. It is broken in many ways. |
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| 14:06.52 | themill | that site generates sources.list files with syntax errors too... it's crap |
| 14:07.00 | aktau | babilen: I will take that to heart |
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| 14:07.58 | stbatduke | Hey all ... trying to fix a bunch of versions of packages I have installed ... when I try to specify a verseion to downgrade a package, it warns me that a bunch of things will be removed, but I do not want them to all be removed, I want to only downgrade the one package, I will address dependencies later. How to force only one to downgrade and not allow the removal of the rest? |
| 14:08.00 | babilen | That sites has caused us (and the Debian community) nothing but headache and the maintainer does not listen to reason and input from the community. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about that sites. |
| 14:08.07 | yates | themill: my response was meant to inform babilen of the purpose for such a function and should not have been taken as a prescription for an actual group. just a rough example. |
| 14:08.09 | babilen | s/sites/site |
| 14:08.21 | themill | yates: ack |
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| 14:08.59 | l1ar | Who uses windows? |
| 14:09.00 | babilen | yates: It does not, but we have metapackages for that purpose. You can also install packages by tags or other search terms. |
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| 14:09.20 | yates | also, 4500 packages for c/c++? this is my career and i don't use 1/100th that many packages. |
| 14:09.36 | yates | babilen: ok, thanks. |
| 14:09.59 | themill | yates: indeed. That's why I say that grab bag thematic packages tend not to be useful |
| 14:10.01 | babilen | l1ar: How is that question related to Debian? |
| 14:10.43 | l1ar | babilen: Totally offtopic, but never mind |
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| 14:12.00 | babilen | l1ar: You should be well aware of the policies of this channel and what we consider on-topic or off-topic. Please adhere to that. |
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| 14:13.16 | yates | themill: i see your point, but in the days of terabyte hard drives and dozens of Mb/s network connections, many people don't care if a few extra unwanted packages are installed... |
| 14:13.37 | yates | we've become lazy... |
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| 14:13.57 | themill | yates: so you could aptitude install ~nlib.*dev ;) (they probably can't all be installed at once) |
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| 14:14.34 | yates | themill: my specific use-case doesn't match that scenario - it's a Beagle Bone Black. |
| 14:14.47 | babilen | yates: So, what are you actually trying to achieve? |
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| 14:14.53 | stbatduke | Is there a way to use apt-get with --no-remove but have it still install the package you want to install, just not remove anything that it wants to remove? |
| 14:14.55 | babilen | dpkg: tell yates -about xy problem |
| 14:15.08 | themill | yates: that makes it sound even more like you want to install only the packages you really need and not a grab-bag. |
| 14:15.16 | yates | mainly i'm trying to learn how to use apt and aptitude now. |
| 14:15.47 | yates | it turns out my problem wasn't a lack of g++ - i worked too late last night and was getting sleepy... |
| 14:16.12 | themill | stbatduke: apt's only job is to keep the package set consistent. aptitude's interactive resolver might let you guide it to the solution you want. /msg dpkg partial downgrade |
| 14:16.24 | yates | babilen: financial independence. |
| 14:16.58 | yates | apt-get install financial-independence ? |
| 14:17.04 | aktau | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/120218/ |
| 14:17.43 | aktau | babilen: I've retried with the sources.list suggested by dpkg, the result is similar |
| 14:17.53 | aktau | babilen: (and that's the result I pasted) |
| 14:18.01 | babilen | yates: I don't quite see how that is related to anything that would be considered on-topic in #debian. In case you misunderstood: I was under the impression that you asked about package groups because you thought that they would be the solution to a problem you are trying to solve. I think that it is a better approach to help you solve your *actual* problem than to talk about "package groups" which don't exist on Debian in that form. |
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| 14:18.07 | stbatduke | themill: thanks! But, I don't know what to change in my sources.list, and I don't understand the difference between apt-get/apt-cache etc and aptitude |
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| 14:19.00 | themill | aktau: can you run «apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=true' update» and pastebin that output for us? |
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| 14:19.38 | stbatduke | It looks like someone who was here before me and is not here now had arbitrarily upgraded only a few weird things, like gcc-4.4, and now there are a bunch of things that are just a slight version higher and all our developement applications are not working slightly |
| 14:20.00 | themill | stbatduke: different implementations aiming at the same end goal; one of the good things about interoperable but different implementations is that you can use the different features of each as needed |
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| 14:21.15 | stbatduke | got a good link to an aptitude walkthrough? :D I'm so used to apt-get (due to my time on the other side with yum, /me ducks) that I am kinda scared to try aptitude and worried about breaking things more than I have |
| 14:21.26 | stbatduke | I already wiped out gcc and will need to put that back (accidentally) :D |
| 14:21.45 | aktau | themill: sure, http://paste.debian.net/120219/ |
| 14:22.28 | themill | stbatduke: accidentally removing things and then reinstalling them is probably the easiest way of solving your downgrade problem |
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| 14:23.20 | stbatduke | themill: how bad though is it if wanting to downgrade something like libc6 wants to remove apt ? |
| 14:23.27 | stbatduke | :D |
| 14:23.45 | yates | babilen: thanks for being helpful. essentially the problem i was originally trying to solve has been discovered to be a "non-problem" - pebkac. |
| 14:24.00 | themill | yeah, be careful with libc6... that's one you don't want to remove. What version do you have and what version do you want? |
| 14:24.01 | stbatduke | or can I somehow freeze the apt and dpkg packages to prevent problems of losing my package management? |
| 14:24.33 | stbatduke | I have 2.17-92+b1 and I want 2.11.3-4 |
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| 14:25.10 | themill | stbatduke: you're not going to be able to downgrade that far ever |
| 14:25.20 | stbatduke | shoots myself |
| 14:25.26 | stbatduke | crap that's not good |
| 14:25.33 | stbatduke | to expand my story .. |
| 14:25.41 | stbatduke | I'm trying to make our dev server match our production server |
| 14:25.44 | aktau | stbatduke: if it's only a few applications, you can run them with a special ld invocation |
| 14:25.57 | stbatduke | so, dev has 2.17... and prod has 2.11... |
| 14:26.15 | themill | stbatduke: you might want to consider upgrading the production server to a supported release while you're at it... |
| 14:26.33 | aktau | stbatduke: I'm basically doing the reverse, running binaries built with 2.17 on a server with only 2.11: exec /home/luma/eglibc/tmp/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-2.17.so --library-path /home/luma/eglibc/tmp/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu /usr/local/bin/ffprobe "$@" |
| 14:26.41 | nido | the problem with production servers is that people depend on them running though |
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| 14:26.49 | f-a | question about popcon: su; popularity-contest <-- generates a list of packages, but how do I send them do debian servers? I ask because my connection is shaky and the process fails, so I would like, in those cases, to call it 'manually' |
| 14:26.56 | aktau | themill: all you have to do is extract 2.17 into some folder |
| 14:26.58 | stbatduke | the ultimate plan is to create a new server with debian 7.5 instead of what is currently install 6.0.9, and then with one working environment, duplicate them all over so every server in our workflow are nearly identical matches |
| 14:27.10 | themill | aktau: ick |
| 14:27.19 | lulz0r | Hey guys I don't have much experience with linux so don't shoot me pls. <3 I have a "LAN" Server here that sits behind a normal consumer router and only needs "client" access to the internet. The Problem is that the server uses 192.168.0.1 as DNS Server (the router), but that doesn't quite seem to work. So I added 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 to the /etc/resolv.conf, which worked fine yesterday, but today I noticed that |
| 14:27.19 | lulz0r | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.26 | stbatduke | the problem however is that we have projects that must go live TODAY and i don't have time to get the new servers all setup, and I cannot migrate everything today either |
| 14:27.28 | themill | stbatduke: yes, that sounds like a much bette rplan |
| 14:27.30 | stbatduke | so I have to downgrade today |
| 14:27.32 | aktau | themill: yes, very ick indeed. But it does allow the binary to run until I can re-do the server |
| 14:27.36 | stbatduke | and then fix it all next week |
| 14:27.52 | aktau | themill: I didn't feel like upgrading the glibc system-wide, and I can't rebuild the binary (out of my contorl) |
| 14:28.03 | babilen | lulz0r: How do you manage your network connections? |
| 14:28.06 | aktau | themill: so that's the path of least resistance I took, for now. |
| 14:28.10 | stbatduke | Otherwise, all of our federally funded research may end up freezing mid trials and a bunch of people may not get their medical treatment |
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| 14:29.09 | lulz0r | babilen: idk... I guess it's handled automatically by debian, it pretty much just worked out of the box, I'm only having problems with the DNS Server |
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| 14:29.57 | lulz0r | babilen: It wouldn't generally be a problem to set it to "manual" though, if that is the problem, I just don't really know how |
| 14:31.28 | babilen | lulz0r: So, are you connecting to wireless or ethernet? Do you use a desktop environment? If so: Which? Do you know if you use network manager or if it is being setup in /etc/network/interfaces? (it's okay if you don't know, then just say so!) |
| 14:31.39 | aktau | themill: any idea where my apt-get woes are coming from? |
| 14:32.07 | babilen | lulz0r: Does your /etc/resolv.conf start with "# Generated by NetworkManager" by chance? |
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| 14:32.54 | themill | aktau: no -- the files that you are getting 404s for are on the server |
| 14:33.09 | lulz0r | babilen: No I don't use a desktop environment, I do everything over SSH usually. It's connected through ethernet. No the resolv.conf does not start with # Generated by NetworkManager, it starts with "domain ..." |
| 14:33.16 | aktau | themill: that's indeed what I thought as well |
| 14:33.32 | themill | aktau: don't have some proxy between you and the mirror do you? |
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| 14:33.46 | lulz0r | babilen: I don't know if I use a network manager though |
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| 14:39.38 | babilen | lulz0r: Okay, do you have configuration settings in /etc/network/interfaces? Could you paste that file (redacted if necessary) to http://paste.debian.net ? (you can do that by installing "pastebinit" and then running "pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces" -- If that contains your configuration you could install the resolvconf package and add "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8" to it. (cf. ... |
| 14:39.44 | babilen | ... https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers ) |
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| 14:43.14 | lulz0r | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/120225/ |
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| 14:44.34 | kruug | I'm trying to install php5-fpm, but I keep getting `Err http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main php5-fpm amd64 5.4.4-14+deb7u12 404 Not Found [IP: 128.101.240.212 80] Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/p/php5/php5-fpm_5.4.4-14+deb7u12_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 128.101.240.212 80] |
| 14:44.39 | kruug | ` |
| 14:44.41 | kruug | any way to fix this? |
| 14:45.17 | themill | kruug: you need to apt-get update |
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| 14:45.46 | kruug | headdesk |
| 14:45.47 | kruug | wow... |
| 14:45.51 | kruug | normally I do that :/ |
| 14:45.54 | kruug | thanks themill |
| 14:46.06 | themill | np |
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| 14:47.18 | stbatduke | themill: aktau: yay! I totally get to backup the problem environment and start from scratch !! |
| 14:47.26 | avshalom | i'm worried that I'm in a mess: today's update to jessie wants to remove my efi boot manager, and install grub-pc. (i'm on a macbook air, with EFI) |
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| 14:48.14 | lulz0r | babilen: Soo... should I install resolvconf then? http://paste.debian.net/120225/ |
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| 14:52.04 | touki | Hi, dummy questions |
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| 14:52.21 | touki | where can I find the exec installed via apt-get in the filesystem? |
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| 14:52.42 | abrotman | touki: dpkg -L <package> |
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| 14:54.19 | aktau | stbatduke: very good :) |
| 14:54.43 | touki | ty |
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| 14:55.15 | stbatduke | now I just have to figure out how to backup roundup o_O oftc#roundup here I come |
| 14:55.25 | aktau | babilen: it must have been. I told the technician on site to try to do it over his mobile phone's 4G connection. Everything worked. |
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| 14:55.48 | aktau | babilen: it seems that someone's been messing with the internet connection in a very strange way |
| 14:56.02 | aktau | babilen: guess I'll have to talk to some people. Sorry for the disturbance babilen. |
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| 14:57.07 | lulz0r | babilen: Alright I just set the interface to static now, should kinda solve the problem, and it's not too bad since it's just a small network anyway. Thanks for your help^^ |
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| 15:35.00 | belowzero | strange things happens to my computer today |
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| 15:35.13 | belowzero | first firefox tainted, then xorg :| |
| 15:35.32 | belowzero | ssd failing maybe? |
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| 15:36.02 | belowzero | Xorg: Corrupted page table at address 7f01897cc470 |
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| 15:37.50 | belowzero | http://pastebin.com/294PNPBU from dmesg |
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| 15:44.16 | Phyliares | belowzero: video card? |
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| 16:14.52 | jelly | touki: what kind of a problem? |
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| 16:17.51 | jelly | belowzero: you seem to be using nvidia blob, so all bets are off |
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| 16:23.30 | stack | hi, should /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ files be sourced when using startx? in particular should the gpg-agent be started automatically when using startx? |
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| 16:31.08 | stack | ok I had to config use-agent in gpg.conf .pardon |
| 16:31.53 | centrx | stack, is the gpg-agent X-specific or something? |
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| 16:32.59 | CygniX | where's the guide to build a .deb file for wheezy, need the latest iptables |
| 16:33.21 | somiaj | ,v iptables |
| 16:33.31 | centrx | dpkg, tell CygniX about ssb |
| 16:33.43 | judd | Package: iptables on i386 -- squeeze: 1.4.8-3; wheezy: 1.4.14-3.1; jessie: 1.4.21-2; sid: 1.4.21-2 |
| 16:34.10 | CygniX | I need minimum 1.4.18 because of ipv6 NAT support |
| 16:34.21 | somiaj | CygniX: why do you need the latest iptables? would 1.4.21 from jessie work for you, then follow what centrx had teh bot tell you. You may also need a backported kenrel as well. |
| 16:34.52 | CygniX | yep, i have kernel 3.14 |
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| 16:38.59 | stack | centrx: why are you asking? |
| 16:39.27 | centrx | stack, just curious, it sounds like you want to start a service, which would normally go in /etc/init.d as opposed to X-session, |
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| 16:39.51 | centrx | stack, so I was wondering if gpg-agent is like that, seems like it wouldn't be related X |
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| 16:40.26 | stack | centrx: gpg-agent is user session specific |
| 16:40.37 | stack | centrx: look at /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*gpg-agent |
| 16:40.48 | centrx | hm ok |
| 16:40.50 | centrx | thanks |
| 16:41.34 | CygniX | somiaj: here is my sources.list http://paste.debian.net/120255/ |
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| 16:46.51 | CygniX | I have build essentials installed |
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| 16:52.16 | CygniX | building iptables 1.4.21 failed http://paste.debian.net/120258/ |
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| 16:53.16 | jelly | CygniX: did you apt-get build-dep iptables? |
| 16:53.28 | CygniX | jelly: yep |
| 16:53.45 | CygniX | I have the dpkp instruction |
| 16:54.12 | jelly | CygniX: make a dummy check target in the /home/cygnix/iptables-1.4.21/extensions directory's Makefile |
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| 16:54.57 | jelly | CygniX: because that's where a recursive "make check" fails |
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| 16:55.53 | CygniX | jelly: could this be the issue, http://paste.debian.net/120259/ |
| 16:56.06 | CygniX | notice it didn't pull the dep from sid |
| 16:56.34 | jelly | that's fine |
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| 16:57.21 | CygniX | <jelly> CygniX: make a dummy check target in the /home/cygnix/iptables-1.4.21/extensions directory's Makefile |
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| 16:57.26 | CygniX | not sure what you mean by that |
| 16:57.28 | jhutchins | It appears that rhn-satellite stop does not shut everyting down, files are still open in /rhnsat |
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| 16:57.50 | jhutchins | ... which I just entered in #debian, please excuse me. |
| 16:58.10 | centrx | Yeah we need to get that toilet fixed pronto |
| 16:58.52 | jelly | CygniX: well, it means "learn how makefiles and building works", so you can fix the build |
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| 16:59.31 | CygniX | jelly: :) i wouldn't be here if I knew what to do. :P |
| 16:59.56 | jelly | CygniX: I can tell you what to do, but not how to do it |
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| 17:00.26 | Alina-malina | when i connect with ftp, why i get owner groul as www-data www-data? |
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| 17:01.15 | CygniX | jelly: well, kind of difficult to know how to do it without some guidance |
| 17:01.31 | jelly | CygniX: you'll want to cd iptables-1.4.21/extensions, and edit Makefile there so that "make check" does not error out, in that directory |
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| 17:01.37 | CygniX | I followed the instruction in the dpkg help, just that it didnt work |
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| 17:02.28 | jelly | alternatively, edit debian/control so that dh_auto_test is not even started at all |
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| 17:03.23 | jelly | there's probably a channel for GNU Make somewhere on Freenode to help you making a dummy target for your Makefile |
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| 17:05.55 | CygniX | jelly: is it a good idea to be trying to defeat the make check instead of correcting the problem? |
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| 17:06.31 | jelly | CygniX: only if you want the darn thing to binld packages :-) |
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| 17:07.04 | socomm | Alam_Squeeze: what? |
| 17:07.28 | jelly | CygniX: I mean, if you're knowledgeable enough to write checks for all the stuff in extensions/ directory... sure, go ahead, but then you wouldn't be asking that question anyway |
| 17:08.27 | jelly | CygniX: I'm going AFK, good luck |
| 17:08.37 | CygniX | thanks jelly |
| 17:09.26 | CygniX | might even be easier to upgrade to jessie no? |
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| 17:23.24 | CygniX | i decided to upgrade to jessie testing instead of messing with building iptables |
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| 17:28.38 | duelle | Hi there, is it possible to use an existing lvm/encryption setup during the debian installation process? |
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| 17:30.41 | centrx | CygniX, Be careful if you have a publicly-accessible server on jessie, it doesn't get security updates promptly |
| 17:31.08 | CygniX | centrx: yep, these server are vpn server |
| 17:31.24 | CygniX | my productive server remains Wheezy |
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| 17:35.16 | martianlobster1 | I would like to map ctrl-alt to f1 ctrl-x to f2 and ctrl-c to f3. ctrl-whatever is killing my left hand. Can anyone tell me how to do this? |
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| 17:37.55 | duelle | martianlobster1, Depending on your desktop environment there might be a tool related to setting up shortcuts. |
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| 17:38.19 | martianlobster1 | duelle: I have gnome 3.9 |
| 17:38.40 | martianlobster1 | I will google gnome 3 shortcuts |
| 17:38.56 | duelle | martianlobster1, I am not that familiar with gnome but you could look at the keyboard settings (there these options are in the xfce env) |
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| 17:39.24 | martianlobster1 | ok thanks |
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| 17:42.04 | duelle | Hello, I have an existing device setup using lvm on top of an encrypted partition. Now I would like to reuse this setup during the installation process of Debian wheezy. There are some hints I found in the internet, but it seems they do not work as stated there because the "console" does not support some of the commands mentioned |
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| 17:43.13 | rgr | reuse what exactly? Why not just start from scratch and do an LVM install? |
| 17:44.23 | duelle | rgr, The encrypted partition including the data contained in one lvm volume. The point is, that I can't backup the data somewhere else due to space problems.. |
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| 17:51.59 | jhutchins | duelle: You need to solve the space problem first. Not having backups is a problem. |
| 17:52.17 | rgr | how much space? Surely you can plug in a dirt cheap external drive and back it up. You should anyway when messing with partitions. |
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| 17:53.07 | jhutchins | duelle: Especially since you will be modifying the system that decrypts the storage. You could loose the volume and not be able to access it any more. |
| 17:53.14 | rgr | (FWIW, my little experiments with really cool LVMs (home use) soon ended when I realised that any slight error can end up in a host of admin issues trying to untangle volumes from multiple partitions and devices ;)) |
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| 17:54.35 | CygniX | damn, my /boot partition was too small so upgrading to jessie testing may fail |
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| 17:54.58 | duelle | jhutchins, rgr I backed up the most vital data. If not necessary I would like to keep the data. |
| 17:55.16 | CygniX | gzip: stdout: No space left on device |
| 17:55.18 | CygniX | E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1 |
| 17:55.19 | CygniX | update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.14-2-amd64 with 1. |
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| 17:56.06 | Eulipion | anyone know how to fix ca-certs not working for curl/apt/openssl/etc, but working in a browser (yes the ca-certifcates pkg is installed, uptodate). tried a million things and im hitting the wall |
| 17:56.23 | jhutchins | duelle: I think you might have difficulty because the installer does not have access to the key to decrypt the volume. You could test it by booting to a live CD/USB and seeing if you can mount the encrypted volume manually. |
| 17:56.38 | Eulipion | ^ its a wildcard cert from godaddy |
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| 17:56.52 | jhutchins | duelle: You might want to have a look at debootstrap. With that, you can build a seperate install in a chroot within the encrypted volume. |
| 17:57.18 | jhutchins | duelle: What is installed on the system now? |
| 17:57.33 | duelle | jhutchins, rgr I was able to mount the volumes using the rescue mode. The real problem is, that the shell available during installation seems not to be able to load stuff like cryptsetup |
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| 17:57.49 | dunc_ | nvidia-detect recommends me to install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver, but when i try to aptitude it, it lists 6 packages to be installed, claims there is missing dependencies and comes with a solution....and ends up not touching a single package |
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| 17:58.17 | jhutchins | dunc_: What release? |
| 17:58.30 | dunc_ | i started with wheezy, currently running sid |
| 17:58.32 | dunc_ | same both issue |
| 17:58.49 | dunc_ | wheezy recommended nvidia-driver |
| 17:59.28 | jhutchins | dunc_: Missing dependencies are part of the sid experience. |
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| 17:59.48 | dunc_ | fun, but wheezy gave me the exact same "solution" in aptitude |
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| 18:00.20 | edjix | i have a problem with ssh, it refuses to start on boot, but starts with the service command. i have run rc.d-updates and followed steps related, and tried to troubleshoot, but everywhere there is supposed to br logs, theres none relating to ssh, any ideas? debian wheezy |
| 18:00.22 | cusco | marbus90: its not. it requires a closed source module after some reading.. I ignored it and moved on to md |
| 18:00.31 | jhutchins | dunc_: Do you have contrib and non-free enabled? |
| 18:00.36 | dunc_ | yes |
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| 18:00.46 | cusco | hello folks... talking about md ... |
| 18:00.53 | cusco | installing grub on /dev/md0 fails |
| 18:01.03 | cusco | squash fs something |
| 18:01.05 | cusco | what can I do? |
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| 18:03.36 | dunc_ | the wonderful world of linux._sighs_ |
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| 18:04.40 | dunc_ | stuck in tty,the only graphical interface i can use is blurred out so much its giving me a headache |
| 18:05.15 | dunc_ | tty is clear, works fine. besides only taking 1/3rd of the screen instead of using it all :/ |
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| 18:05.19 | EdePopede | good morning, and again i have a problem with mounting a non-linux fs. i vahe an old laptop here with i think debian 4 and i can't make it mount an usb stick writable for users. and it changes everything to lowercase, not even using the same fstab line as in debian 7 helps. and pmount? "no rights". to whatever, no idea. |
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| 18:07.29 | yates | all i see in my aptitude is g++ 4.6 - is there anything newer available and if so how do i get it? |
| 18:07.40 | centrx | ,v g++ |
| 18:07.41 | judd | Package: g++ on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.9.1-1; sid: 4:4.9.1-4 |
| 18:07.42 | Nectur1 | is there a truly noob friendly compile from source tutorial out there somewhere? |
| 18:07.45 | yates | apparently 4.6 does not have the c++11 extensions |
| 18:07.56 | centrx | yates, the package is probably called g++-4.7 |
| 18:08.23 | dunc_ | ok, dunno why, driver magically installed when i removed the xorg conf folder |
| 18:08.27 | dunc_ | sweet randomness |
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| 18:08.55 | Nectur1 | i've cloned a git repo n i installed build-essentials then what ? 0.o |
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| 18:14.33 | jorge | what is "debian desktop environment" during installation? |
| 18:14.54 | jorge | gnome? |
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| 18:15.06 | slurpymcdurpy | Gnome in Wheezy, XFCE in beta jessie installer. |
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| 18:15.16 | yates | centrx: ok, but an aptitude search of g\+\+ reveals only 4.6. this is on Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone50 #1 SMP Tue May 13 13:24:52 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux |
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| 18:15.50 | slurpymcdurpy | there's also a boot line you could use if you prefer kde, and "advanced boot options" for any of the desktops |
| 18:15.52 | mtn | jorge: using the advanced options, you can install other desktops during install, as well |
| 18:16.03 | centrx | yates, THat doesn't sound quite like a Debian machine |
| 18:16.35 | yates | debian is an os, not a machine |
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| 18:16.47 | jorge | how do I do advanced options? |
| 18:17.14 | centrx | yates, I mean e.g. the kernel version doesn't match up with a Debian release |
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| 18:17.36 | centrx | ,v g++-4.7 |
| 18:17.38 | judd | Package: g++-4.7 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.7.2-5; jessie: 4.7.4-2; sid: 4.7.4-3 |
| 18:18.08 | centrx | yates, So g++-4.7 is definitely in Debian. What does your sources.list look like? |
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| 18:18.53 | yates | centrx: where is sources.list located? |
| 18:18.54 | slurpymcdurpy | uhh, advanced options is one of the lines on the very first prompt shortly after boot starts |
| 18:19.27 | centrx | yates, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:20.44 | yates | is there a paste utility in debian, where i could do something like "cat sources.list | debpaste" to quickly dump to a pastebin? |
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| 18:21.33 | centrx | yates, you can install "pastebinit" |
| 18:21.34 | yates | http://paste.debian.net/120272/ |
| 18:21.35 | slurpymcdurpy | !pastebin |
| 18:21.35 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 18:22.18 | yates | centrx: ok, thanks - i pasted sources.list above. |
| 18:22.41 | centrx | yates, you've done an apt-get update recently? |
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| 18:23.07 | yates | no. i gues i should? |
| 18:23.40 | yates | doing it now. |
| 18:23.42 | edjix | anyone up.for an ssh start failed at boot problem? |
| 18:24.40 | yates | ok, i did an apt-get update and still only sett 4.6 g++ |
| 18:24.44 | centrx | edjix, wow that sounds so exciting |
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| 18:24.45 | yates | s/sett/see/ |
| 18:24.49 | jhutchins | edjix: Have you tried changing the log level in sshd_config? |
| 18:24.55 | centrx | yates, strange |
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| 18:26.00 | yates | centrx: if i presumed it was available, what apt command would install it? let me just try it. |
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| 18:26.09 | centrx | yates, apt-get install g++-4.7 |
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| 18:26.28 | edjix | jhutchins: not yet, don't know why its not throwing anything for a start failed |
| 18:26.44 | yates | oh goodie! |
| 18:26.45 | edjix | centrx: yeah, i.know |
| 18:26.48 | yates | it's there. |
| 18:27.06 | yates | i don't trust this aptitude search for some reason. or perhaps i'm using it wrong |
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| 18:27.35 | yates | can you search with apt-get or some apt-xyz instead? |
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| 18:28.32 | Riastradh | apt-cache search mumblefrotz |
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| 18:29.15 | yates | ah. thanks Riastradh. |
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| 18:30.15 | yates | ok, do i have to remove the old 4.6.3? when i "g++ --version" i'm still getting 4.6.3 after installing 4.6.2 |
| 18:30.25 | yates | s/4.6.2/4.7.2/ |
| 18:30.26 | Riastradh | update-alternatives |
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| 18:31.07 | Somelauw | Is there a way to try different keyboard layouts without setting one globally? |
| 18:31.31 | Somelauw | Right now I'm using US-internation, but i want to try altgr-int instead |
| 18:31.39 | Somelauw | or maybe us-international-alternative |
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| 18:32.33 | Somelauw | I thought that at least during installation there was a way to test it |
| 18:32.55 | jhutchins | edjix: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/ | grep ssh |
| 18:32.57 | aaron83 | any solutions to mount a wsus over debian??? |
| 18:34.38 | edjix | jhutchins: its there |
| 18:34.46 | edjix | S18ssh |
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| 18:35.50 | edjix | jhutchins: its in all rc#'s except 0, 1, 6 |
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| 18:37.20 | edjix | jhutchins: i did install chkconfig, i dunno if that would have something to do with it or not, |
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| 18:39.30 | edjix | : error: Bind to port 22 on 192.168.1.2 failed: Cannot assign requested address. |
| 18:39.48 | edjix | but on a service ssh restart, it binds, |
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| 18:40.54 | jhutchins | edjix: Sounds like it's trying to start up before networking is enabled. |
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| 18:41.03 | jhutchins | edjix: wheezy? |
| 18:41.09 | edjix | jhutchins: yup |
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| 18:42.20 | mechanicalduck | hi |
| 18:42.31 | edjix | jhutchins: ok, yeah, network manager is starting at S20, so i change SSH to, say, S99, that might work out? |
| 18:42.33 | mechanicalduck | So I installed the custom rebuild linux kernel - how can I get back the official kernel? |
| 18:42.39 | mechanicalduck | For debian wheezy amd64. |
| 18:43.13 | edjix | ..or S21? |
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| 18:50.37 | Somelauw | is tehre a nicer way to change keyboard layout without directly editing xorg.conf? |
| 18:50.58 | Riastradh | setxkbmap? |
| 18:51.16 | Somelauw | Riastradh: yes, but one that persists after reboot |
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| 18:52.02 | Somelauw | some say to put it in .xinitrc but gnome login manager seems to ignore that file |
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| 18:52.59 | SanchoPensa | hi guys! i was trying to accomplish teh following task, and didn't succeed, so i was wondereing, whether one of you could maybe help me figure it out: |
| 18:52.59 | SanchoPensa | i wanted to put all of my pink floyd mp3 collection onto a DVD, so that i can choose from the folders on my tv, which is connected to the stereo, just like i would select from folders on a foto CD. |
| 18:52.59 | SanchoPensa | unfortunately i can't seem to find the right sophtware/operating modes to even get my DVD player to read my DVDs. I tried with K3B. any recommendations highly appreciated. |
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| 18:53.15 | Riastradh | Somelauw: Call setxkbmap in your ~/.xsession / ~/.xinitrc? |
| 18:54.03 | Somelauw | Riastradh: doesn't the log-in manager ignore these files? |
| 18:54.15 | edjix | jhutchins: ok, set everything to S99ssh, and still same error, |
| 18:54.21 | Riastradh | Well, then I guess you'll have to configure whatever session manager you're using that ignores those files... |
| 18:54.26 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: reading a dvd is done by the kernel, k3b just takes the data, if k3b cant read the dvd then probably nothing can, or theres a different problem |
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| 18:55.26 | SanchoPensa | valdyn: thanks for your answer, but undortunately misses the point. i am not having a kernel read problem, i am having a linux burn&dvd-player "obey" problem *g* |
| 18:55.52 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: what is the actual problem then? |
| 18:56.16 | SanchoPensa | please read my initial post again, and describe, what you don't understand? |
| 18:56.52 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: Just tell us what k3b is doing different than you think it should |
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| 18:57.26 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: "k3b cant read my dvd" is not useful |
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| 18:58.35 | SanchoPensa | ok, one more slightly diferent approach: when you insert a foto CD into the DVD player, it recognizes folders with contents, i.e. in this case pics. |
| 18:58.36 | SanchoPensa | i would like to have the same with mp3s. |
| 18:58.36 | SanchoPensa | unfortunately, when i just burn folders on da data DVD, the DVD playa wont recognize it, says enter a disc with data on it blah... |
| 18:59.07 | SanchoPensa | so i treid to trick it, by chosing to burn a video DVD, and only filling up the audio track folder, but of course k3b youldnt let me do that... |
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| 18:59.32 | edjix | SanchoPensa: burn the MP3's onto the disc, no folders, |
| 18:59.40 | SanchoPensa | i haven't the heck of a clue, what i am missing... :D |
| 19:00.10 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: which dvd player is not finding the mp3 tracks? |
| 19:00.12 | SanchoPensa | edjix: mhm, that would indeed maybe even solve the prob, but you know, it is 4,6 gig of mp3s... |
| 19:00.32 | edjix | dvd players aren't exactly "smart", and depending on your model, it won't read any folders, |
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| 19:00.45 | SanchoPensa | try and skip those on a DVD playa wiht the usual customer 5,3 digit display... |
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| 19:01.42 | SanchoPensa | edjix: exactly my problem, dude! it CAN read my foto CDs but i can't seem to be able to figure out, how to burn a freakin music disk! :D |
| 19:02.17 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: are you trying to burn an audio cd or are you trying to burn a dvd full of mp3 files? |
| 19:02.36 | SanchoPensa | ya actually both ofm which, right? |
| 19:02.43 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: audio cd is a technical term |
| 19:03.00 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: musik disk is not, so i dont know what you really want |
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| 19:03.47 | SanchoPensa | ya i am sorry, valdyn, but i don't know how to describe it any more precise to fit your needs in descriptions... |
| 19:04.08 | SanchoPensa | i treid two different attemts now, and i thought they were both pretty accurate? |
| 19:04.23 | SanchoPensa | sry 4 the dyslexia btw... |
| 19:04.29 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: well, theres 2 things some typical cd or dvd players can play back: one is the "audio cd" or a disk full of mp3 files |
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| 19:04.36 | SanchoPensa | i know it makes it hard to read my stuff... |
| 19:04.40 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: you can only want one of those 2, make up your mind |
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| 19:05.29 | SanchoPensa | valdyn: ok, so far so good, but what i fail to grasp then, is why i can browse folders with a foto cd, but then i can't with an audio content? |
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| 19:05.58 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: you are not sticking to technical terms, thats the first problem |
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| 19:06.02 | SanchoPensa | tha being, waht i basically meant by "music" DVD? that the content is audio instead of pics? |
| 19:06.06 | Edvan | olá pessoal, podem me ajudar num problema? |
| 19:06.25 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: you can browser "audio cd" on windows, you cannot in typical linux file managers, thats just how it is |
| 19:07.13 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: a "foto cd" as you describe is probable a cdrom containing files, of course you can browse that in a file manager |
| 19:07.20 | SanchoPensa | look dude... i really don't know what technical terms the language police prescribed, i am trying hard to expalin a problem here, ok? |
| 19:07.20 | SanchoPensa | in terms of, i am explaining it to you as god as i can, so therefore that being as good as it gets. |
| 19:07.45 | SanchoPensa | so can you please quit the criticizing, and actually try and help me solce my problem? yes? thanks? |
| 19:08.00 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: im just trying to help you tell me what the problem is |
| 19:08.06 | SanchoPensa | valdyn: sounds plausible, doesn't it? |
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| 19:08.29 | SanchoPensa | yes, and i thank you for it. can you please do it in a more constructive way? |
| 19:08.38 | valdyn | i feel trolled |
| 19:08.59 | SanchoPensa | omg mee too, you know? lets please talk about the issue. |
| 19:09.16 | SanchoPensa | why can i read folders with pics, but i can't wiht mp3s? |
| 19:09.33 | SanchoPensa | with mp3s it tells me insert something that i can read? |
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| 19:10.50 | EdePopede | SanchoPensa: did you try to create an image only and then let file tell you what it sees? |
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| 19:11.24 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: what is "it" ? |
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| 19:11.54 | SanchoPensa | "it" is the DVD playa, the computer can red the DVD just phine of course... |
| 19:12.15 | SanchoPensa | and nope, i haven't tried the file approach, thansk for the hint! |
| 19:12.33 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: so your dvd player cannot read those files, maybe because you put them into a folder |
| 19:12.38 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: some dvd players are like that |
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| 19:13.11 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: or maybe it just cant read mp3 files at all, we cant know that |
| 19:13.16 | SanchoPensa | but basically, if my ROM can read it, it shouldn't be the problem, that there is something wrong with the DVD but i am having some sort of fomrat problem ehre, if yoiu ask me |
| 19:13.28 | SanchoPensa | oh but it does! |
| 19:13.53 | valdyn | SanchoPensa: so, are the files inside a folder? |
| 19:14.02 | SanchoPensa | if i play DVDs with some 100 tracks that aare NOT in foldersl it does |
| 19:14.09 | SanchoPensa | hehe, nope |
| 19:14.12 | EdePopede | SanchoPensa: which dvd player can't read it? the drive or the player attached to your TV? |
| 19:14.16 | SanchoPensa | which is the actual issue :D |
| 19:14.25 | SanchoPensa | EdePopede: the latter |
| 19:14.34 | EdePopede | maybe the file system is the problem? |
| 19:14.38 | SanchoPensa | as said, my PC reads them just phine |
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| 19:14.53 | SanchoPensa | EdePopede: yeah, that is what i figured! |
| 19:14.55 | EdePopede | or was it the charset, wait... |
| 19:14.55 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: So your player doesn't understand mp3s in folders. Simple enough. |
| 19:15.04 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: How is this a debian problem? |
| 19:15.10 | EdePopede | i remember, when i bought my dvd i tested around |
| 19:15.14 | SanchoPensa | cos as saif, the DVD ülaya also reads pic disks with folders on them... |
| 19:15.18 | belowzero | Phyliares_, jelly: Im using nvidia blob yea, but the exact same type of crash happenend some minutes before, but that time to iceweasel. (sorry a answering a little late :p) |
| 19:15.30 | SanchoPensa | so i am freakin missing something and i can't figure out what it is... |
| 19:15.56 | belowzero | "[ 2692.818413] iceweasel: Corrupted page table at address 7f66b9484f70" |
| 19:16.09 | belowzero | must be something hw related? |
| 19:16.14 | belowzero | or kernel? |
| 19:16.18 | belowzero | Ill try upgrading |
| 19:16.36 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: So your player doesn't understand mp3s in folders. Simple enough. |
| 19:16.36 | EdePopede | not sure atm, but if you used UDF only, maybe your player knows only ISO9660? or at least an older version of UDF |
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| 19:16.49 | SanchoPensa | jhutchins: ya i am sorry pal, but that doesn't make too muhc sense... |
| 19:16.50 | SanchoPensa | and after all, me being to stupid to figure out the right settings, isn't a debian probolem either, but WTF, i thought this was a HELP channel? :D |
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| 19:17.14 | edjix | !pastebin |
| 19:17.15 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 19:17.38 | EdePopede | SanchoPensa: maybe try the image approach with both, mp3 disk AND pics disk and see what it tells you about the used filesystems |
| 19:17.51 | edjix | jhutchins: http://paste.debian.net/120280/ that's my auth.log |
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| 19:19.23 | EdePopede | using *only* UDF was a problem iirc. hybrid and iso both were ok, only the usual problem with long filenames... and special characters. |
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| 19:19.50 | SanchoPensa | EdePopede: mhm... you are probably right there... |
| 19:19.51 | SanchoPensa | i litte bit of field testing, i guess... :) thanks for the help guys, i will reprot back, in case i should be able to solve the enigma! |
| 19:20.16 | EdePopede | SanchoPensa: waiting for the feedback ;) |
| 19:20.20 | EdePopede | and good luck |
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| 19:21.03 | SanchoPensa | EdePopede: err yes i catually ran into the joliet names-to.ong issue, i clicked, the shorten the names automatically option AND the ignore option, both DVDs unfortiuantely only were readybla on the PC as said... |
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| 19:21.20 | SanchoPensa | hehe, thanks, pal, i can use some :) |
| 19:21.29 | EdePopede | and there also are some nice nonofficial settings |
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| 19:21.51 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: This is not a general help channel, it is a Debian support channel, specific to Debian. |
| 19:21.52 | SanchoPensa | oh gawd sry 4 syntax... i meant both were readyble only on the PC |
| 19:21.54 | jhutchins | !ot |
| 19:21.54 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 19:22.15 | SanchoPensa | ya well, this is why i am here. |
| 19:22.15 | SanchoPensa | because i am using debian, u know? |
| 19:22.28 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: You might check for a firmware update for your player. |
| 19:22.41 | edjix | SanchoPensa: you have a k3b to dvd player issue, not a debian issue, |
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| 19:22.59 | zoku | everything in /dev/snd is set to gid 0 |
| 19:23.05 | zoku | I can only play audio as root |
| 19:23.11 | zoku | how can I change the gid of my audio devices? |
| 19:23.12 | SanchoPensa | jhutchins: maybe you have a suggestion for me, what sophtware you use, because, you know, maybe does some other sophtware than k3b approach the issue differently, so that i dont run into it? |
| 19:23.21 | EdePopede | pff... i actually do have a debian issue (i think?), but nodoby cares :( |
| 19:23.37 | edjix | EdePopede: or we don't know... |
| 19:23.48 | EdePopede | zoku: chmod may be the answer |
| 19:23.50 | SanchoPensa | edjix: i have a some-sophtware-on-debian-to-DVD-playa_issue |
| 19:24.00 | SanchoPensa | i don't care what sophtware actually |
| 19:24.09 | SanchoPensa | i cate that i have an issue. and i am on debian |
| 19:24.17 | SanchoPensa | fullstop, gentlemen. |
| 19:24.25 | minus1999 | I installed kali linux on a spare box planning to pen test some sites but never did, I just booted it back up the username and password is failing, I also tried root/toor, and a article I found that explains to press 'e' when grub starts loading but grub never loads lilo does. can any one give me a link on how to i can reset my username/password or just reset the os |
| 19:24.26 | nido | EdePopede: what filesystem is on this stick? |
| 19:24.27 | SanchoPensa | again, thanks for the help i appreciate it. |
| 19:24.34 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: No, you don't have an issue with debian, you have an issue with the player. |
| 19:24.49 | edjix | it's "software".... |
| 19:24.57 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: It's not a matter of how k3b structures the disk, a data disk is a data disk. |
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| 19:25.08 | SanchoPensa | lol... dude... i am having an issue, tha i am trying to solve with my debian installation... ;) |
| 19:25.11 | edjix | and more like a dvd-read issue, which has nothing to do with the dvd burning on k3b |
| 19:25.23 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: WHich we've explained is not an issue with Debian. |
| 19:25.25 | mechanicalduck | hi |
| 19:25.36 | edjix | SanchoPensa: putting a bandaid on a finger to fix a broken leg won't solve anything, |
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| 19:25.43 | EdePopede | nido: according to fdisk -l: W95 FAT32 (LBA) |
| 19:25.46 | SanchoPensa | yeah, those are all valid objections, and i recognize them, yet still am still sitting hjere wiht an issue |
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| 19:25.54 | SanchoPensa | lol |
| 19:26.03 | zoku | doesn't quite work like that EdePopede |
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| 19:26.44 | SanchoPensa | yeah, and i don't really know what that has to do with anything, but then you know i don't want to make so much noise with futile discussions here, after all it is a help channel, right? and thena fter all, we ahve all been through that, haven't we? |
| 19:26.55 | SanchoPensa | so why don't we keep it at that now? :) |
| 19:27.02 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: If you would like to undersstand more see http://www.cdrfaq.org/ |
| 19:27.05 | SanchoPensa | once again THANKS FOR THE HELP, APPRECIATED! |
| 19:27.47 | SanchoPensa | mhm, thank you, jhutchins |
| 19:28.21 | jhutchins | SanchoPensa: Again, I would look for a firmware update for your player. |
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| 19:28.57 | Somelauw | I figured out an alternative way to configure keyboard other than using x-session |
| 19:29.08 | Somelauw | using dpkg-configure |
| 19:29.21 | SanchoPensa | basically a brilliant advice, only that piece of c*** is predelucian and hasn't got a net port... |
| 19:29.23 | Mousey | dpkg --configure |
| 19:29.24 | dpkg | Mousey: bugger all, i dunno |
| 19:29.30 | Mousey | <_< |
| 19:29.50 | Mousey | or dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 19:30.08 | minus1999 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.41 | Somelauw | but some websites say that keyboard is configured through .Xorg, so that confused me |
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| 19:31.42 | centrx | !kali |
| 19:31.42 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 19:31.57 | Somelauw | is any of those preferred? |
| 19:32.41 | minus1999 | ah, #kali-linux.. ok thanks |
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| 19:33.01 | Lildirt | Oh god I just broke something. |
| 19:33.02 | Lildirt | http://gyazo.com/b5a2631569198e1ef914418af9690270 |
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| 19:33.43 | Somelauw | Mousey: dpkg --configure just says it's already configured |
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| 19:40.33 | Nectur1 | how does export PKG_CONFIG_PATH= behave by default? |
| 19:40.50 | Nectur1 | will it reset after the terminal closes? |
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| 19:42.48 | EdePopede | debian must have some magic.so oO |
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| 19:45.27 | valdyn | Nectur1: it can only ever be valid for childprocesses of the process you set it at |
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| 19:48.31 | donky | hi |
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| 19:48.44 | donky | is there any debian server edition? |
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| 19:50.27 | valdyn | donky: no |
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| 19:51.31 | donky | valdyn: ok . what debian should i use for server? |
| 19:52.10 | stbatduke | ohai! I'm back! I cannot seem to find a proper source for my debian 6.0.9 build-essential ... |
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| 19:52.22 | stbatduke | I am trying to determine what to put in my sources.list ...... |
| 19:52.51 | stbatduke | when I do "sudo apt-cache policy build-essential" I get (none) for both installed and candidate, and nothing in the version table. |
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| 19:53.45 | stbatduke | I am also remembering to run "sudo apt-get update" every time I update the sources.list, to be sure that it knows that I made changes (and can get the new information into its db) |
| 19:54.01 | donky | what debian should i use for my server? |
| 19:54.09 | ctmjr | donky: debian stable during install you can choose not to install a desktop and then after it installs you can install the services you need |
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| 19:54.28 | donky | ctmjr: thanks |
| 19:55.16 | EdePopede | hm, how stable is jessie (or whatever is the one to come) for daily use on the desktop? |
| 19:55.17 | ShalokShalom | when i boot with the non free firmware iso image in live iso and installation, prefer debian the open source drivers, if both (free and nonfree) are available, yes ? |
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| 19:55.51 | ShalokShalom | EdePopede: I use and love it, its very stable on my desktop. |
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| 19:56.04 | EdePopede | my worst problem is my nvidia card i think, freezes regularly, so wheezy isn't reaaly longrunning *g* |
| 19:56.08 | Mousey | i game exclusively with jesse/sid using LXDE (for gaming), and KDE for work. stable is in my sources-list too, but it defaults to jesse |
| 19:56.30 | ShalokShalom | EdePopede: Install wheezy and upgrade to jessy, that is currently the recommend way. |
| 19:56.35 | Mousey | i haven't had any problems that i didn't cause myself. =) |
| 19:57.03 | EdePopede | pebkac? *g* |
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| 19:58.02 | edjix | sleep 30; in ssh in init.d worked |
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| 19:58.59 | shay_shay | http://paste.debian.net/120285/ does anyone understand this? |
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| 19:59.17 | shay_shay | why is it saying .iso has files on ubuntu mirror? |
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| 20:00.19 | ShalokShalom | oh yeah: there is an issue with jessy: vokoscreen wont work |
| 20:00.49 | stbatduke | Hey, anyone able to help me? I need to figure out how to fix my debian sources.lit for apt - I am trying to install build-essential, but it is seeming to be missing from my repositories http://pastebin.com/iYZdsyZB |
| 20:01.24 | stbatduke | I cannot find a page that I can understand that explains what I would want to put in my sources.list to get thet build-essential ... I need build-essential verseion 11.5 |
| 20:01.28 | stbatduke | *version |
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| 20:03.43 | somiaj | stbatduke: can you put the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
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| 20:04.18 | somiaj | !tell stbatduke about squeeze sources.list |
| 20:04.24 | somiaj | !tell stackofcats about squeeze-lts |
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| 20:05.43 | Nectur1 | valdyn: what do you mean? |
| 20:05.58 | stbatduke | Hey somiaj ! Thanks I am getting that into a paste.debian.net for you! |
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| 20:07.36 | stbatduke | somiaj: here http://paste.debian.net/hidden/29a8ae6d/ |
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| 20:09.14 | somiaj | stbatduke: looks like you only have the security soruces. you will need to add the main mirror sources (probably only need one line) sent to you by the bot |
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| 20:09.39 | somiaj | stbatduke: you will then want to include the lts sources (provided you are on i386 or amd64). If you are on a differnt arch than those two you will want to consider upgrading to wheezy. |
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| 20:11.39 | msrsp | waves hello |
| 20:13.47 | stbatduke | somiaj : thanks! I am trying the ones that dpkg sent me, the sources I had to start with were : http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8711a3ce/ |
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| 20:14.06 | msrsp | hello, good people |
| 20:14.09 | stbatduke | weird part is that they are "working" on another server, and not this one ... but I know this doesn't mean anything :D |
| 20:14.22 | msrsp | I wonder if anyone can help me with a doubt regarding dancer-ircd |
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| 20:14.49 | msrsp | didn't find a proper channel to ask about it, so as I'm running Debian on my server, thought I'd ask here |
| 20:16.02 | somiaj | stbatduke: squeeze has reached it's eol (but additional support is provided by squeeze-lts). It could be that your mirror removed squeeze because of that. Maybe try a diffrent mirror |
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| 20:16.17 | stbatduke | gotcha that makes sense |
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| 20:16.37 | stbatduke | that fixed it! |
| 20:16.43 | somiaj | stbatduke: also lines 8-9 are not needed any more, there will be no squeeze-updates and fixes are provided via squeeze-lts, and lines 11-12 are duplicates of 1-2 and not needed. |
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| 20:17.08 | stbatduke | :D I knew it looked wierd |
| 20:17.25 | stbatduke | How can I tell if a mirror has the stuff I need? |
| 20:18.46 | yates | Riastradh: "update-alternatives --config g++" returns "update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for g++" |
| 20:19.45 | somiaj | stbatduke: look at the mirror and see what it has |
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| 20:21.11 | yates | i see. it installed as g++4.7 |
| 20:21.23 | shay_shay | holy crap jigdo is hard to use |
| 20:21.35 | shay_shay | whats wrong with torrents guys lol |
| 20:21.47 | stbatduke | is there a good book that discusses the apt-get/apt-cache, repo, and aptitude stuff, andf maybe goes over the structure of a mirror and how apt determines what software and what versions are avaialble from a mirror? |
| 20:22.29 | tethra | stbatduke: seen the debian handbook? it goes into detail about some but not all of that |
| 20:22.31 | shay_shay | http://debian-handbook.info/ |
| 20:22.36 | tethra | ^ |
| 20:22.46 | tethra | the section on apt is excellent |
| 20:22.57 | stbatduke | awesome, thanks!! |
| 20:23.50 | stbatduke | new quick question: How to tell apt-get NOT to remove something when I install a different version of something else? |
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| 20:24.22 | somiaj | stbatduke: it is removing it due to a conflict/compadability issue. |
| 20:24.24 | stbatduke | or maybe, can I put a freeze on a package to porotect it? |
| 20:24.35 | tremon | stbatduke: the default is to not remove. apt only removes packages in case of conflicts or replacements |
| 20:24.35 | stbatduke | likely yes |
| 20:24.42 | somiaj | stbatduke: you can hold a package. Do you have a custom version it is wanting to upgrade. |
| 20:24.43 | stbatduke | well yeah |
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| 20:24.52 | somiaj | !tell stbatduke about hold |
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| 20:25.03 | SynrG | a hold probably won't work |
| 20:25.18 | stbatduke | I want to install an older version of something yes, but it wants to remove apt and aptitude o_O |
| 20:25.22 | stbatduke | which scares me |
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| 20:25.49 | SynrG | !bat |
| 20:25.49 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 20:25.49 | shay_shay | stbatduke: you need to bump the version number when you build a custom version |
| 20:25.52 | somiaj | stbatduke: sounds like you need to recompile what you need to be compadable with your version. |
| 20:26.07 | SynrG | compatible* |
| 20:26.36 | stbatduke | I am probably simply going to re-install the OS entirely |
| 20:26.44 | stbatduke | Just was trying one more time to avoid that |
| 20:27.04 | shay_shay | D: |
| 20:27.11 | stbatduke | frustrating having to make a duplicate install of a server to make everything work |
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| 20:27.27 | somiaj | stbatduke: you should think about upgrading to wheezy if you can, since squeeze is past it's EOL. Now there is still some support for squeeze if you are in a case you need it over wheezy. But if wheezy will suit your needs you will get much better options. |
| 20:27.33 | stbatduke | have a silly developement situation where we have developement server, test server, qa server, and production server ... all with different versions of everything |
| 20:27.34 | SynrG | stbatduke: why? have you done things to that system that would make it untrustworthy in the state it's in? mixing different releases or distributions or some such? |
| 20:27.44 | SynrG | ah |
| 20:27.57 | stbatduke | unfortunately until our developers can get the software working with wheezy, we have to stick with squeeze |
| 20:28.09 | SynrG | ouch |
| 20:28.25 | stbatduke | once we have some new stuff in production and working so that customer (research doctor) can do their thing, then we're going to build a whole new set of servers |
| 20:28.35 | SynrG | stbatduke: the removal probably *must* happen to resolve a conflict with one of the things you want to upgrade ... |
| 20:28.35 | somiaj | stbatduke: well maybe if you give more specifics of what package you want to hold or install an older version of we can give better advise. |
| 20:28.35 | stbatduke | that way we can force all new things to use wheezy |
| 20:28.46 | SynrG | stbatduke: and a hold is probably not going to be effective as a result. |
| 20:28.58 | stbatduke | I agree |
| 20:29.04 | SynrG | short of rebuilding the conflitcing packages to be compatible with the versions of libraries you now have ... |
| 20:29.10 | SynrG | i can think of no other solution |
| 20:29.11 | stbatduke | the package is libc6 |
| 20:29.12 | stbatduke | ducks |
| 20:29.13 | yates | how do i list all the "link groups" availabl ein update-alternatives? |
| 20:29.28 | stbatduke | among other packages |
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| 20:29.41 | SynrG | stbatduke: squeeze plus libc6 from a later release? or wheezy plus libc6 from an earlier release/ |
| 20:29.42 | somiaj | stbatduke: depending on how long it is going to take you to get it working on wheezy, you may want to think about just focusing on jessie (the freeze is gonna happen in a couple of months), this means wheezy probabaly only has about 2 years left of support. |
| 20:29.44 | SynrG | ? |
| 20:29.55 | SynrG | neither of those are workable |
| 20:30.05 | somiaj | stbatduke: yea messing with libc6 can cause lots of problems, :/ |
| 20:30.16 | tremon | stbatduke: btw, having os differences between qa and production is a problem in itself |
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| 20:30.32 | stbatduke | squeeze libc6 2.11.3-4 and currently it has squeeze libc6 2.17-92 |
| 20:30.35 | stbatduke | o_O |
| 20:30.50 | stbatduke | yeah I am learning this :LD |
| 20:30.51 | stbatduke | :D |
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| 20:30.58 | somiaj | stbatduke: though jessie won't be stable for about a year, so it won't be worth using as a server until then. I was just mentioning this depending on the time frame you have. |
| 20:31.09 | stbatduke | right on |
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| 20:31.57 | stbatduke | yeah I am unfortunately just a whole lot more familiar with RHEL / OEL due to my time at cisco/netapp ... and so I am not as familiar with the package names and what's dangerous as I was with those other things |
| 20:32.05 | shay_shay | i cant help but wonder, why not use chroots to compile and run software which cant be easily backported without making an unstable situation? |
| 20:32.08 | tremon | oh, and squeeze never shipped with glibc 2.17 |
| 20:32.08 | stbatduke | though I have always liked Debian much more :D |
| 20:32.20 | stbatduke | yeah squeeze shipped I think with 2.11 |
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| 20:32.34 | stbatduke | I don't understand why the previous admin here put 2.17 on there |
| 20:32.45 | stbatduke | silly since production server has 2.11 |
| 20:32.58 | stbatduke | causes issues trying to install some python modules at times, strangely enough |
| 20:33.07 | somiaj | sounds like the privous admin wanted a broken system. :/ |
| 20:33.17 | stbatduke | wellllllll |
| 20:33.21 | tremon | in fact, 2.17 has never been in any official debian release. Wheezy shipped with 2.13, and jessie will ship with 2.19 |
| 20:33.28 | stbatduke | o_O |
| 20:33.42 | stbatduke | well dang son |
| 20:33.43 | stbatduke | lol |
| 20:33.43 | tremon | (current testing did have 2.17 for a while, but testing isn't a "release") |
| 20:34.35 | stbatduke | yeah basic idea in the situation here is that the previous admin is in the hospital o_O and previous to him was kind-of a cludge of application architect and a few other non-admins that were working on everything |
| 20:34.58 | centrx | stbatduke, did you put him in the hospital because of your outrage at his deployment setup? |
| 20:35.03 | stbatduke | the previous admin was building some new servers, he just didn't have time before he had to go get some organs replaced, and he's now in the hospital |
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| 20:35.13 | stbatduke | centrx: LOL |
| 20:35.16 | stbatduke | no I promise :)D |
| 20:35.19 | stbatduke | :D |
| 20:35.29 | tremon | notes that the brain is an organ too |
| 20:35.38 | stbatduke | bwahahahaha |
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| 20:36.59 | tremon | anyway, it's probably best to scuttle the current qa server, and rebuilding it from a production copy |
| 20:37.26 | centrx | Yeah treat production as your source |
| 20:37.42 | centrx | and re-image staging and qa and development or whatever, based on production |
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| 20:38.44 | centrx | you know, if you want... |
| 20:39.22 | stbatduke | that's totally the goal |
| 20:39.31 | stbatduke | for now I'm going to base it off production, which is 6.0.9 |
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| 20:39.46 | stbatduke | but then I'm going to build a new production with wheezy 7.5, and also re-build the others from that |
| 20:40.11 | stbatduke | and hopefully in a couple of months, everything will be wheezy and matching completely and all will be right with the world |
| 20:40.42 | tremon | you may want to start upgrading at the other end. Have your developers work with wheezy first, so they can start working out any issues with the upgrade |
| 20:41.12 | stbatduke | problem is that we have things that need to move into production before we will have time to finish the upgrades |
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| 20:41.39 | stbatduke | so we need to match to production first, then once deployments settle down I'll force it down their throat .. I mean kindly sugggest |
| 20:41.43 | tremon | ok. It all depends on your schedule |
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| 20:42.18 | stbatduke | lol awesome!! |
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| 20:42.49 | stbatduke | well we learned something today : setting a hold on apt does not protect it from apt-get when it removes due to compatibility issues |
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| 20:42.55 | stbatduke | apt-cache: command not found |
| 20:42.56 | stbatduke | :D |
| 20:43.12 | stbatduke | apt-get just removed itself!!! |
| 20:43.29 | stbatduke | not nearly as pretty as rm -rf /* |
| 20:43.36 | tremon | I don't know your situation (obviously) but I would probably do what somiaj suggested: consolidate on the current squeeze systems and do maintenance deployments, then have your developers start tracking jessie |
| 20:43.38 | slurpymcdurpy | It's like the big bang in reverse . .. |
| 20:43.57 | stbatduke | bwahahaha slurpymcdurpy awesome, that goes in my quote book |
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| 20:45.28 | yates | how do i list all the "link groups" available in update-alternatives? |
| 20:46.21 | somiaj | yates: would ls /etc/alternatives work for you? |
| 20:46.42 | tremon | yates: are you looking for update-alternatives --get-selections? |
| 20:47.02 | somiaj | yates: basically each link group is one of those links, or as tremon suggested you can list them all from update-alternatives. |
| 20:47.08 | towo` | update-alternatives --config <tab> <tab> |
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| 20:47.55 | stbatduke | Ok, thank you all of you for your help today! I am about to run home to finish this up ... much better to do this at the home office rather than the office office ... the home office has my friends Jim and Jack and Johnny and Marlborro |
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| 20:49.15 | centrx | Marlborro is the coolest |
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| 21:06.10 | NeV3rKilL | hello |
| 21:06.18 | zq | hello. is possible to reinstall all package in dpkg -l? |
| 21:06.31 | NeV3rKilL | I got problems with a custom init.d script |
| 21:07.50 | NetEcho_ | NeV3rKilL what's the init script for? |
| 21:08.06 | NeV3rKilL | NetEcho_: launch a vbox machine |
| 21:08.13 | NeV3rKilL | im uploading the init.d file to pastebin |
| 21:08.25 | yates | thanks folks. i didn't notice --get-selections in the man page was for link groups |
| 21:08.32 | NeV3rKilL | http://paste.debian.net/120309/ |
| 21:08.35 | centrx | zq, dpkg -l |cut somethingsomething |xargs apt-get install --reinstall |
| 21:08.35 | NeV3rKilL | it is a pretty simple one |
| 21:08.36 | NetEcho_ | ah, once you fix the offending script you shouldn't need to re-install anything |
| 21:09.02 | NeV3rKilL | I just have problems with the quotations and the spaces on DAEMON_ARGS |
| 21:09.14 | NetEcho_ | init scripts aren't my wheelhouse sorry |
| 21:09.25 | NeV3rKilL | the answer of the script is : VBoxHeadless: error: Invalid parameter: Stable |
| 21:09.43 | NeV3rKilL | so, the string "-n --startvm \"Debian Stable Server\"" I don't know why |
| 21:10.03 | NeV3rKilL | but its passing Stable has a different parameter when it's a full string "Debian Stable Server" |
| 21:10.07 | zq | centrx: yup, doing that already, but i'm getting lots of messages akin to: |
| 21:10.07 | zq | E: Couldn't configure pre-depend perl-base:amd64 for debconf:amd64, probably a dependency cycle. |
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| 21:11.17 | TJ- | NeV3rKilL: Use single-quote ' rather than escaped double-quote \" |
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| 21:11.32 | zq | ohi see |
| 21:11.38 | zq | reinstalling all at once is nono |
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| 21:11.59 | NeV3rKilL | TJ-: same error |
| 21:12.04 | NeV3rKilL | DAEMON_ARGS="-n --startvm 'Debian Stable Server'" |
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| 21:12.19 | NeV3rKilL | I tried with double-double quotes |
| 21:12.23 | NeV3rKilL | scape character |
| 21:12.38 | NeV3rKilL | I don't know what to do but change the virtual machine's name |
| 21:12.40 | NetEcho_ | might help if you read the logs to see what the exact error is |
| 21:12.44 | NeV3rKilL | but thats dirty |
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| 21:13.12 | NeV3rKilL | NetEcho_: the error is that it's thinking that Stable is an argument, when Stable is part of the server's string name |
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| 21:13.28 | NetEcho_ | you probably have to escape the spaces |
| 21:13.42 | NeV3rKilL | let's try, didn't think about that |
| 21:13.54 | NetEcho_ | or try naming the system Debian_Stable_Server |
| 21:15.09 | NeV3rKilL | NetEcho_: yes, that the dirty solution that i would not like to do |
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| 21:15.27 | NeV3rKilL | this is weird, scaping spaces drops the error |
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| 21:15.58 | NeV3rKilL | DAEMON_ARGS="-n --startvm \"Debian\ Stable\ Server\"" ----> Error: VBoxHeadless: error: Invalid parameter: Stable\ |
| 21:16.36 | NeV3rKilL | this is passing the scape symbol as a character :-? whats wrong with bourne! |
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| 21:18.06 | TJ- | NeV3rKilL: start-stop-daemon -v --start --chuid $USER --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON -- "$DAEMON_ARGS" \ |
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| 21:19.41 | NeV3rKilL | VBoxHeadless: error: Unknown option: ' --startvm "Debian\ Stable\ Server"' |
| 21:20.33 | TJ- | NeV3rKilL: lose the single-quotes - go back you how DAEMON_ARGS= ... was originally |
| 21:21.17 | NeV3rKilL | I tryed all the combinations with "$DAEMON_ARGS", no changes :( |
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| 21:22.04 | NeV3rKilL | I'm thinking that it's sometrhing related with start-stop-daemon and the way it's treatng the arguments. maybe i have to split each argument in different variables, dunno |
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| 21:22.52 | TJ- | NeV3rKilL: You're dealing with shell expansion. Surrounding the arguments with quotes should be sufficient |
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| 21:24.37 | NeV3rKilL | VBoxHeadless: error: Unknown option: ' --startvm "Debian Stable Server"' |
| 21:25.15 | NeV3rKilL | if I surround "$DAEMON_ARGS" then i'm creating an extra quotes |
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| 21:25.26 | NeV3rKilL | because all the sentence is already inside quotes |
| 21:26.17 | NeV3rKilL | lol |
| 21:26.30 | TJ- | NeV3rKilL: Just work around it! TITLE="Debian Stable Server"; DAEMON_ARGS="-n --startvm" ... start-stop-daemon ... $DAEMON_ARGS "$TITLE" ... |
| 21:26.37 | NeV3rKilL | start-stop-daemon -v --start --chuid $USER --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON -- -n --startvm "Debian Stable Server" <------- this works |
| 21:27.51 | TJ- | NeV3rKilL: You could put TITLE and DAEMON_ARGS in "/etc/default/vbox" and then "[ -r . /etc/default/vbox ] && . /etc/default/vbox" in the init script |
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| 21:28.54 | NeV3rKilL | TJ-: I've no idea about /etc/default :( |
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| 21:29.03 | NeV3rKilL | splitting the name drops the same |
| 21:29.20 | NeV3rKilL | I'm just gonna pass the commands directly in the command line, and skip the DAEMON_ARGUMENT |
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| 21:39.35 | jhutchins | NeV3rKilL: By any chance did you ask about this in #vbox? |
| 21:39.58 | troulouliou_dev | hi i m building a small htpc system with debian as core; i managed to made the boot quiet by removing all output here and there; any idea if it is also possible to remove the blinking cursor that appears before grub and after plymouth ? |
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| 21:40.51 | NeV3rKilL | jhutchins: no, it's not a vbox issue |
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| 21:41.25 | NeV3rKilL | I left it like: start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --background --chuid $USER --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON -- $DAEMON_ARGS "Debian Stable Server" |
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| 21:42.12 | NeV3rKilL | Maybe my shell fish is doing something wrong, but it's weird since the header of the document begins by: #! /bin/sh |
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| 21:53.49 | joshh20 | Ugh, force to use CentOS to run Virtualizor |
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| 22:00.38 | Kobaz | is it possible to get acl's to inherit from their parent directory |
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| 22:01.37 | Kobaz | is that the default acl? hmm |
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| 22:02.32 | robertbellarmine | Does anyone know any metapackage similar to Ubuntu studio, but for programming in any linux distro or debian based system. Thanks! |
| 22:03.28 | Kobaz | cool, that's it |
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| 22:07.27 | CygniX | v openvpn |
| 22:07.51 | CygniX | how do you do version check from here again? |
| 22:07.58 | CygniX | !v openvpn |
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| 22:09.25 | CygniX | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.55 | rx | robertbellarmine: apt-get install eclipse eclipse-cdt netbeans kdevelop qtcreator anjuta codeblocks monodevelop lazarus |
| 22:09.57 | rx | etc ;-) |
| 22:12.20 | rx | just to name a few |
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| 22:13.11 | robertbellarmine | thx, I was looking more for something like apt-get install one-name. This is especially helpful when you are installing in a bunch of PC's. |
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| 22:16.40 | abrotman | robertbellarmine: it probably depends on which languages you want to focus on |
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| 22:20.09 | Shadow_7 | what was the ide that redhat was working on 10-ish years back? started with S or something |
| 22:20.14 | rx | apt-get install eric geany gecrit monkeystudio pida projectcenter.app spyder |
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| 22:20.38 | rx | i was curious i did a case sensitive find in debian package list for IDE |
| 22:20.39 | rx | ;-) |
| 22:20.47 | rx | those are less popular but still |
| 22:20.54 | Shadow_7 | insight or something |
| 22:21.17 | Shadow_7 | virtual package in jessie... *sigh* |
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| 22:24.59 | rx | dont remember the redhat ide |
| 22:25.43 | somiaj | I still seem to have trouble connecting to open wireless networks (my unveristy uses them). Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and this time it is with an intel iwlwifi card. wicd seems to suggest using dhcpd over dhclient, is there really that much of a difference or is it most likely something else? |
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| 22:31.52 | RustyShackleford | my server has been unplugged for a couple weeks |
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| 22:32.03 | RustyShackleford | today I set it up and ran aptitude upgrade |
| 22:32.23 | RustyShackleford | it complains that the release file for Wheezy is expired as of about 2 days ago |
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| 22:33.51 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: is for some reason you have a bad bios battery and your clocks were reset during that time it was unplugged? Check that the date on the server is correct. |
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| 22:34.05 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: also check your mirror, maybe you need a different mirror. |
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| 22:35.37 | RustyShackleford | somiaj, it's been a couple weeks. Maybe the battery died |
| 22:35.48 | RustyShackleford | actually, a whole month |
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| 22:39.05 | RustyShackleford | it's showing the correct time and date. I've got ntp running, so I thought maybe hardware and software clocks weren't synced |
| 22:39.12 | RustyShackleford | but after a reboot same stuff |
| 22:39.54 | RustyShackleford | E: Release file for http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/Release is expired (invalid since 1d 2h 4min 24s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. |
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| 22:43.51 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: looks like it is just the wheezy-updates release on that server. These are not mandatory and you can just comment out that entery in your sources.list for now if you don't want to find another mirror |
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| 22:47.56 | RustyShackleford | somiaj, so the problem exists on the mirror? |
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| 22:48.11 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: in this case it seems so. |
| 22:48.13 | RustyShackleford | i could just wait it out and hope they fix it |
| 22:48.33 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: you could, as wheezy-updates does not contain vital updates you need on your system |
| 22:48.47 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: that is just were some updates will pool before the next point release |
| 22:49.06 | somiaj | most bug fixes that are not considered security updates |
| 22:50.01 | RustyShackleford | okay great. Thanks for your help |
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| 22:58.19 | abrotman | /win 1 |
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| 23:06.43 | srged | How do I "permanently " chenge wifi mac? |
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| 23:14.14 | qman__ | srged: custom eeprom flasher |
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| 23:16.48 | srged | qman__: what is eeprom flaser? |
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| 23:18.16 | qman__ | srged: a device used to flash data to an eeprom |
| 23:18.31 | srged | ok |
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