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| 00:04.25 | daniel-s | In addition, this update hardens GnuPG's behaviour when treating keyserver responses; GnuPG now filters keyserver responses to only accepts those keyid's actually requested by the user. |
| 00:04.42 | daniel-s | ^ That seems like a feature that should have been there from the beginning. |
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| 00:15.05 | abrotman | seems to think that's complaining to the wrong people? |
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| 00:20.55 | mckenneth | Hi, everyone, do I need to register somewhere to be able to use this channel? or can everyone hear me? |
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| 00:22.02 | MrFrood | mckenneth: your post is visable |
| 00:22.10 | MrFrood | !ask |
| 00:22.11 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 00:25.40 | mckenneth | ok thanks, I'm trying to build a .deb pacakge with python 2.6.5 for Debian 5, however Debian 5 latest Python version is 2.5.2. I was able to build 2.6.5 from sources, and externally downloading setuptools and argparse. Now I have some instructions to build the deb package, and I want to build a deb package from my working python installation. However, the steps to build the deb file seem to use the source code, not the compiled |
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| 00:26.36 | mckenneth | I did a "dpkg-buildpackage -b" and it started building something |
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| 00:28.20 | sparc | Isn't aptitude great? It offers to downgrade packages, when it would be needed. |
| 00:28.29 | sparc | Is it possible to get it to do that, without prompting? |
| 00:28.52 | sparc | The first option is usually, to take no action, so I can't use --assume-yes |
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| 00:51.53 | Biganon | Hello ; I'm looking for an alternative to Google Calendar, like a daemon I could run on my debian machine and access through a web interface, or maybe a PHP or Python thing |
| 00:51.55 | Biganon | any ideas ? |
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| 00:58.43 | Brigo | Biganon, may be php-horde-dav or radicale ... |
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| 01:00.16 | Brigo | Biganon, or try google: https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CalendarServer |
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| 01:02.32 | Lildirt | Is there any way I can get the keycode of any key I press on my keyboard? |
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| 01:05.15 | Shadow_7 | scancode ? or other similar tools |
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| 01:06.12 | Lildirt | Thank you. |
| 01:06.17 | Brigo | Lildirt, showkey |
| 01:06.21 | Shadow_7 | or was it keycode? Been a while. xinput, lsinput and all those friends and neighbors |
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| 01:07.27 | Shadow_7 | showkey sounds about right. It has a parameter to tell it how long to stay in that mode. |
| 01:08.14 | Lildirt | Mmk. I just need one specific key and I can't find it to save my life. |
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| 01:22.33 | Lildirt | Hm, it doesn't seem to be doing anything. |
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| 01:56.45 | bcx211 | Is there a net install I can download for debian? Or can I only get the iso |
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| 01:57.39 | bcx211 | I'm on a livecd and trying to install, but I keep getting the error "failing step: installing the system" |
| 01:57.53 | bcx211 | I assume that means corrupted iso I assume |
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| 02:01.07 | aoeuasdf | bcx211, There is a net install on the website. |
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| 02:05.06 | bcx211 | aoeuasdf: is there a binary? I don't see it |
| 02:05.31 | aoeuasdf | bcx211, I googled "Debian net install": https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 02:05.51 | bcx211 | That is an image |
| 02:06.05 | bcx211 | I was hoping to download an run a binary without making another image |
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| 02:07.49 | aoeuasdf | bcx211, How do you mean run a binary? From your existing install? |
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| 02:08.19 | bcx211 | aoeuasdf: from my live instance |
| 02:09.35 | aoeuasdf | I'm afraid I don't know how to do that. I don't _think_ its possible but I don't know. |
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| 02:19.08 | saow | hi how do i check temperature for my linux system? |
| 02:19.37 | somiaj | use lm-sensors |
| 02:20.00 | somiaj | it is a package you need to install, then run sensors-detect, after that make sure the right modules are loaded, then you can just type 'sensors' and get the output |
| 02:20.14 | somiaj | there are various graphical tools that use this like conky on your desktop |
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| 02:22.33 | Agent_bob | [ 1239.664266] ioctl32(mkfs.vfat:2859): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(00001268){t:12;sz:0} arg(ffaa8ab0) < anyone know why mkfs.vfat would burp that out ? |
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| 02:24.52 | saow | somiaj:Do you want to add these lines automatically to /etc/modules? |
| 02:24.53 | saow | yes or no? |
| 02:27.40 | Agent_bob | command seems to have worked in spite of the oops. not sure why i'm seeing the oops though. anyone have thoughts on it ? |
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| 02:30.45 | somiaj | saow: if they aren't being loaded automatically, yes |
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| 02:32.46 | saow | * /etc/init.d/kmod start |
| 02:33.46 | saow | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/3fZLmgT1 |
| 02:33.51 | saow | is this looks normal? |
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| 02:34.34 | Agent_bob | latest debian how to make the tty console not change size at boot time? it goes from 80x25 to 170x50 which is unreadable to me. |
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| 02:39.06 | saow | http://pastebin.com/3fZLmgT1 |
| 02:39.31 | saow | what about my temperature, come on folks? |
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| 02:39.34 | saow | fooks |
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| 02:44.46 | rx_ | monodevelop removed from jessie? |
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| 02:46.16 | somiaj | saow: you have temp1,2,3 there, not sure why tmp3 is off, maybe the bios needs to be configured, but I bet one is the cpu and the other is the mobo |
| 02:46.26 | somiaj | rx_: go check the qa page |
| 02:46.45 | somiaj | rx_: https://packages.qa.debian.org/m/monodevelop.html |
| 02:47.20 | {ssl} | guys how do i continue with this |
| 02:47.24 | {ssl} | E: Unable to find a source package for hexchat |
| 02:47.51 | {ssl} | i just tried to sudo apt-get build-dep hexchat |
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| 02:54.38 | somiaj | {ssl}: do you have a deb-src line in your sources.list |
| 02:54.50 | {ssl} | yes i already uncomment |
| 02:54.55 | {ssl} | it has # deb-src |
| 02:54.59 | {ssl} | i deleted # |
| 02:55.02 | {ssl} | is that correct? |
| 02:55.32 | {ssl} | now somiaj it tells me this |
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| 02:55.47 | {ssl} | E: Unable to find a source package for hexchat |
| 02:55.51 | somiaj | did you run apt-get update after |
| 02:55.57 | {ssl} | yes |
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| 02:56.10 | {ssl} | yes i know that every time i edit sources.list i need to sudo apt-get update |
| 02:56.12 | {ssl} | i did it |
| 02:56.21 | {ssl} | but this happens --> E: Unable to find a source package for hexchat |
| 02:56.22 | somiaj | is hexchat the name of the binary package, do apt-get show xchat and look for the Source line to get the source package name |
| 02:56.53 | somiaj | if you are running wheezy, you need a deb-src for wheezy backports or jessie, hexchat is not in wheezy |
| 02:57.06 | {ssl} | apt-get show hexchat? |
| 02:57.14 | shay_shay | hawn@vps24586:~$ apt-cache search hexchat |
| 02:57.16 | shay_shay | hexchat - IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2 |
| 02:57.28 | {ssl} | i see |
| 02:57.31 | somiaj | nevermind that, I looked it up. That package is not in wheezy, are you running wheezy? is the deb-src line for wheezy? you ned a deb-src line for wheezy-backports |
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| 02:57.35 | {ssl} | what should i put then? |
| 02:57.42 | {ssl} | yes im on wheezy |
| 02:57.50 | somiaj | look at a wheezy-backports line and made a deb-src for the wheezy-backports repo |
| 02:58.06 | shay_shay | ,checkbackport hexchat |
| 02:58.08 | judd | Backporting package hexchat in sidâwheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 02:58.08 | Gunni | hey, can someone tell me why this package <https://packages.debian.org/jessie/python3.4> is not availible in the package manager on debian jessie? |
| 02:58.20 | {ssl} | ok |
| 02:58.30 | {ssl} | somiaj: ok thanks. ill do that. brb |
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| 02:59.08 | shay_shay | you can add a deb-src line for sid instead , maybe a bit more practical than a wheezy-backports line |
| 02:59.21 | shay_shay | because wheezy-backports are already backported xD |
| 03:00.08 | {ssl} | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main |
| 03:00.10 | somiaj | Gunni: what do you mean not available. have you ran apt-get update recentally? |
| 03:00.14 | {ssl} | like that somiaj ? |
| 03:00.35 | somiaj | shay_shay: wheezy-backports come from jessie, but i would assume they may ahve their own source repo as the source packages are sometimes modified to be built correctly on wheezy |
| 03:00.36 | shay_shay | {ssl}: may i ask why you're compiling it? |
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| 03:00.54 | somiaj | {ssl}: correct. And yes answer shay_shay's question, why are you compling it and not just usign teh backport provided? |
| 03:01.02 | {ssl} | because i wanted the newest version shay_shay |
| 03:01.24 | {ssl} | which is not available on repo |
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| 03:01.51 | shay_shay | yes but wheezy-backports are already compiled |
| 03:01.51 | {ssl} | can you guys confirm that 2.10.1 version is on repository for wheezy? |
| 03:01.53 | Gunni | here's aptitude doing it's thing, still no python3.4 <http://codepad.org/lfX9xEXe> |
| 03:02.05 | shay_shay | ,v hexchat |
| 03:02.06 | judd | Package: hexchat on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; sid: 2.10.1-1; jessie: 2.10.1-1 |
| 03:02.18 | Gunni | woah, i see the problem, nvm |
| 03:02.28 | {ssl} | Ok. how do i install sid or jessie? |
| 03:02.28 | somiaj | Gunni: because python3.4 is not in wheezy |
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| 03:02.29 | {ssl} | hmmm |
| 03:02.55 | Gunni | somiaj, yeah, saw that, was on the wrong server ^_^ |
| 03:03.06 | shay_shay | {ssl} you need a deb line for wheezy-backports |
| 03:03.16 | {ssl} | i mean install the hexchat which is the sid/jessie part. but still use wheezy |
| 03:03.20 | {ssl} | is that even possible? |
| 03:03.20 | shay_shay | {ssl}: and then just apt-get install hexchat |
| 03:03.26 | somiaj | {ssl}: you don't install sid/jessie packages in debian. If 2.10 is good enough for you you add a deb line for wheezy-backports, then 'apt-get -t wheezy-backports install hexchat' |
| 03:03.31 | somiaj | shay_shay: missing a -t wheezy-backports |
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| 03:04.08 | somiaj | {ssl}: in this case the matainer has made a package for wheezy and provided it via wheezy-backports so you don't have to compile it yourself. I don't know what the recent upstream is but 2.10 is the version in debian it seems. |
| 03:04.23 | shay_shay | {ssl}: correction then just apt-get -t wheezy-backports install hexchat |
| 03:04.50 | {ssl} | somiaj & shay_shay , but they say its also ok to compile it myself. The only thing that i need to have is the dependencies first, which can be provided by doing sudo apt-get build-dep hexchat |
| 03:04.51 | shay_shay | sid version is exactly the same version as wheezy backports |
| 03:04.54 | {ssl} | but i failed that part |
| 03:04.56 | shay_shay | see output from judd |
| 03:05.14 | {ssl} | coz it says -- "E: Unable to find a source package for hexchat" |
| 03:05.29 | shay_shay | O.o |
| 03:05.29 | {ssl} | even i already enabled may -src |
| 03:05.53 | somiaj | {ssl}: yes, because you need a deb-src line for a repo that has hexchat, you can use a deb-src line from jessie, sid or wheezy-backports fro that. |
| 03:05.55 | shay_shay | sneaks away |
| 03:06.30 | somiaj | {ssl}: but lets get back to the orignal problem. What version of hexchat do you want to install on your system? |
| 03:07.31 | {ssl} | the latest. 2.10.1 |
| 03:07.39 | {ssl} | and not 2.10.0 |
| 03:08.18 | somiaj | !tell {ssl} about ssb |
| 03:08.28 | {ssl} | my compile was ok. however some dependencies made my hexchat 2.10.1 crippled with some things. like w/o ssl and w/o perl/python script |
| 03:08.47 | somiaj | those instructions shoudl work for building the version from sid on your system |
| 03:08.54 | somiaj | you may want to uninstall the local isntall you did first though |
| 03:08.57 | {ssl} | they said because i did not have the right dependencies. which is done by doing "sudo apt-get build-dep hexchat" |
| 03:09.19 | {ssl} | but its met with -- "E: Unable to find a source package for hexchat" |
| 03:09.34 | somiaj | yea you need a deb-src line, but since 2.10.1 is in sid you might as well just follow the ssb instructions and build a .deb package and not do a local install |
| 03:09.53 | {ssl} | somiaj> you may want to uninstall the local isntall you did first though |
| 03:09.57 | somiaj | yes I know and I have explained to y ou multiple times why you got that, no need to keep going in circles. Follow the ssb instructions from the bot |
| 03:09.59 | {ssl} | how do i do that somiah? |
| 03:10.17 | somiaj | it depends on how you installed it in the first place. If you ran 'make install' usually there is a 'make uninstall' script to undo it |
| 03:10.18 | shay_shay | o-o |
| 03:10.20 | {ssl} | how do i uninstall my originall install/comiple of hexchat 2.10.1 ? |
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| 03:11.08 | {ssl} | ok ill do make uninstall first |
| 03:11.17 | {ssl} | yes i go thru ./configure then make |
| 03:11.26 | somiaj | no |
| 03:11.30 | {ssl} | then make config |
| 03:11.38 | somiaj | because it has already been configured and made, you just need to unintsall it |
| 03:12.12 | {ssl} | i mean , make install |
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| 03:12.28 | {ssl} | so somiaj , how do i uninstall it? |
| 03:12.34 | somiaj | I told you |
| 03:12.49 | {ssl} | ok one by one. im confused |
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| 03:12.54 | {ssl} | lets uninstall it first ok? hmm |
| 03:12.59 | somiaj | run make uninstall in the top level of the source tree |
| 03:13.10 | {ssl} | ok. |
| 03:13.28 | {ssl} | thats ~/hexchat-2.10.1 |
| 03:14.09 | {ssl} | ok somiah |
| 03:14.14 | {ssl} | somiaj: its finished |
| 03:14.16 | {ssl} | then next |
| 03:14.32 | somiaj | okay now follow the instructions I had the bot dpkg tell you, you can skip the first two, check for a backport first |
| 03:15.15 | {ssl} | i already have back ports |
| 03:15.50 | somiaj | yea as I said you don't want the backport version, so follow the instructions just skip step 2 |
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| 03:19.25 | {ssl} | i do 1,,3,4 instructions? |
| 03:19.51 | {ssl} | somiaj: im kinda confused..is it ok if i just pate you the sources.list i have and tell me if its already good? |
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| 03:35.13 | shay_shay | {ssl}: i'll look at your sources.list |
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| 04:04.17 | stbatduke1 | Quick Question: I have a package called librsvg2-2 on two different servers, one has version 2.26.3-1 ... but the ohter has version 2.26.3-1+deb6u2 ... what is the difference between the two? |
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| 04:07.26 | somiaj | stbatduke1: look in the directory /usr/share/doc/packagename on the server that has the +deb6u2 version. These are securty fixes most likley. |
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| 04:07.41 | somiaj | stbatduke1: you will shee a changelog and debian change log file, read that file, it will tell you the differences |
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| 04:14.04 | hesperaux | on a 64bit install of debian, how can I obtain a 32bit ld-linux.so.2? |
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| 04:22.29 | somiaj | hesperaux: you can install 32bit libs on a 64 ibit install using multiarch |
| 04:22.33 | somiaj | !tell hesperaux about multiarch |
| 04:22.52 | somiaj | don't know about that paticular libary, but if the lib is multiarch compadable it can be done |
| 04:23.10 | hesperaux | i'm assuming the 32-bit build-essential would cover it. thanks somiaj |
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| 04:33.15 | wardhan | hi all. i have used a package long ago which shows server maximum no of files. i have used it primarily for downloading music & videos. i think it based for nzb r usenet files. can somebody please tell the package name. thank you. |
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| 04:44.17 | shay_shay | what do you want to know Hdhdheh |
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| 05:09.31 | tejas-manohar | does oh my zsh install zsh? im on ubuntu 14.04 |
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| 05:12.30 | Hunterkll | how can I do a dist-upgrade without getting slapped with system-d ? |
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| 05:13.59 | Hunterkll | or will it not change to systemd when i upgrade |
| 05:14.02 | Hunterkll | documentation seems unclear |
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| 05:18.46 | ag4ve_ | Hunterkll: distro? |
| 05:18.55 | Hunterkll | ag4ve_, look at the channel we're in |
| 05:19.04 | ag4ve_ | oh duh |
| 05:19.26 | Hunterkll | yes hello this is clubat |
| 05:19.28 | Hunterkll | :) |
| 05:21.17 | Hunterkll | the systemd rundown reeks of OS X and winodws |
| 05:21.19 | Hunterkll | heh |
| 05:21.26 | hanasaki | so? |
| 05:21.35 | Hunterkll | i like making baseless statements |
| 05:21.36 | Hunterkll | :P |
| 05:21.53 | Hunterkll | but no, really, the thing is, i'd like to upgrade as much as possible without chaning too much in heavily customized systems |
| 05:21.58 | Hunterkll | or having to re-learn things on semi-production systems |
| 05:22.02 | Hunterkll | and this is my test box for this |
| 05:22.09 | ag4ve_ | i used to put two APT::something options in apt.conf to make it not install x and the like, but i don't seem to need that much anymore |
| 05:22.11 | Hunterkll | so, if i blacklist systemd, will everything crash and burn horribly? |
| 05:22.13 | hanasaki | "heavily customized" is orthoganal to that |
| 05:22.41 | Hunterkll | or will it hold back anything that hard-depends on systemd |
| 05:22.47 | Hunterkll | or will that make the entire dist-upgrade fail |
| 05:22.54 | Hunterkll | in a non-hard way |
| 05:23.05 | ag4ve_ | you might just have to go out of your way (build stuff and pin packages) to keep it off |
| 05:23.08 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, some of the debain systems targeting this are on 64MB CF cards |
| 05:23.09 | hanasaki | Hunterkll: look at the email threads on it... looks like it's a total move to systemd and only systemd |
| 05:23.16 | Hunterkll | ouch |
| 05:23.26 | hanasaki | Hunterkll: what kinda stuff are you doing on 64mb |
| 05:23.45 | ag4ve_ | you shouldn't ask him that :) |
| 05:23.54 | ag4ve_ | he's not right in the head |
| 05:24.01 | hanasaki | Hunterkll: I just ran into that myself.. the systemd stuff... building docker and lxc systems |
| 05:24.12 | hanasaki | ag4ve_: hehe |
| 05:24.13 | Hunterkll | routers, filters, inspection systems, control systems, boot servers for ancient IBM hardware |
| 05:24.25 | Hunterkll | pocket sized netboot servers for NeXT hardware |
| 05:24.26 | Hunterkll | etc |
| 05:24.54 | Hunterkll | I have one cute little kit that has an AUI port on it and fits in my hand and runs off a small battery pack :D |
| 05:25.12 | NetEcho | is gnome overly heavy on stock debian? |
| 05:25.14 | hanasaki | fun or work? sounds fun :) |
| 05:25.27 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, both |
| 05:25.30 | hanasaki | just don't expect gnome to be unity hehe |
| 05:25.32 | Hunterkll | i deal in a lot of historic hardware |
| 05:25.41 | Hunterkll | yes. we wouldn't want it to be a worse system, would we hanasaki ? |
| 05:25.51 | Hunterkll | then again, KDE 3.5 4 lyfe if i have to use a heavy DE ... :P |
| 05:25.54 | Hunterkll | light DE? CDE all the way |
| 05:25.59 | Hunterkll | even lighter? eh. fluxbox |
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| 05:26.13 | NetEcho | I want to set my boss up with something easy to use but that won't take too much ram |
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| 05:26.24 | NetEcho | I'm going to be running some ram intensive applications in the backend |
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| 05:26.35 | hanasaki | I have a jessie system running .. seems pretty stable. then again.. deb usually is. not everything is on systemd off inetd yet .... |
| 05:26.39 | Hunterkll | Fluxbox. just tell him to right click for the proram menu anywhere on the desktop |
| 05:26.40 | Hunterkll | heh |
| 05:26.47 | NetEcho | yea I've used flux |
| 05:26.53 | NetEcho | so fluxbox with no DE? |
| 05:27.03 | Hunterkll | that's my usual desktop if i'm forced to use linux |
| 05:27.30 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, well, was hoping there might be a way. i doubt i have anything that's systemd reliant on headless systems where the most intensive serving software might be samba if i'm unlucky. and everything else is hand spun or 3rd party daemons |
| 05:27.34 | Hunterkll | might be time to finally make that slackware transition |
| 05:27.35 | Hunterkll | heh |
| 05:27.46 | NetEcho | I was thinking maybe lxde |
| 05:28.12 | NetEcho | but if gnome isn't a resource hog |
| 05:28.15 | Hunterkll | you said lightweight. i could have suggested twm ;P |
| 05:28.24 | Hunterkll | NetEcho, i'd expect gnome and KDE to take the most resources and be about the same |
| 05:28.28 | Hunterkll | they're equally as feature heavy |
| 05:28.33 | hanasaki | is kinda liking systemd - its got some nice controls.. not as easy to attack as inetd |
| 05:28.44 | Hunterkll | remember kids, sun tried to use gnome as a component of a JAVA desktop system :P |
| 05:28.54 | NetEcho | yea I've noticed jessie is using systemd for a lot of things |
| 05:28.58 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, reboot to upgrade init and init has .... yea |
| 05:29.07 | Hunterkll | init has a larger attack surface now |
| 05:29.10 | hanasaki | KDE is the way to go if they guy is a windows dude... unless you want ultralight X stuff.. might as well jump in |
| 05:29.23 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, KDE 3.5 maybe. KDE 4 was a mindfuck |
| 05:29.25 | hanasaki | Hunterkll: hmmm |
| 05:29.32 | hanasaki | why |
| 05:29.34 | NetEcho | hanasaki all he'll really be using X for is probably XBMC and some web browsing |
| 05:29.40 | NetEcho | it's a Media server |
| 05:29.45 | hanasaki | tomb? |
| 05:29.48 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, and i just read a recent thread on reddit detailing a few people who went and verified their systemd logs to fin dthey were mostly corrupted ;) |
| 05:29.58 | NetEcho | hanasaki I'll be tossing Plex on it |
| 05:30.20 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, oh, okay. KDE4 has gotten a /lot/ more KDE3 like i see |
| 05:30.25 | Hunterkll | when it first came out.... :( |
| 05:30.27 | ag4ve_ | NetEcho: than just give him x with no de - or whatever that default one with the crosses is |
| 05:30.33 | tacocat | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.35 | Hunterkll | ag4ve_, TWM |
| 05:30.42 | tacocat | er |
| 05:30.43 | ag4ve_ | ^^ that |
| 05:30.47 | tacocat | oops, wrong buffer |
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| 05:31.06 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, http://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/screenshots/general-desktop.png if that's current KDE, then they definately backtracked to the 3.5 lineage and looks :) |
| 05:31.11 | hanasaki | Hunterkll: would you elaborate on the kde comment? |
| 05:31.24 | Hunterkll | lemme see if i can find some early KDE4 screenshots |
| 05:31.51 | NetEcho | ag4ve_ is that the one that kinda feels like Windows 3.x? |
| 05:31.56 | Hunterkll | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/KDE_3.5.png was what i was used to. |
| 05:32.11 | Hunterkll | NetEcho, no. it's a basic "oh, this technically counts as a WM and spawns a terminal. " sort of thing |
| 05:32.32 | NetEcho | lol |
| 05:32.52 | NetEcho | might be a little too complicated for him if he has to exit XBMC |
| 05:33.18 | hanasaki | I switched to kde 4 few yrs back... gnome 3 was not good to me .... current gnome in jessie seems more usable though |
| 05:33.37 | Hunterkll | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4#mediaviewer/File:KDE_4.0RC2.png |
| 05:33.40 | Hunterkll | was jarring comparatively |
| 05:33.50 | NetEcho | Maybe I'll try running Gnome with all the other apps and see how the preformance is affected and work down from that |
| 05:34.17 | Hunterkll | KDE 4.2, apparently, was considered a decent replacement |
| 05:34.24 | Hunterkll | but I was running KDE4 2007-2008, so ... yea |
| 05:34.28 | Hunterkll | and 4.2 was 2009-2010 |
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| 05:35.01 | hanasaki | does kde 4 or gnome 3 in jessie work with touch screens and gestures on a tablet? |
| 05:35.17 | Hunterkll | i'd assume KDE 4 would |
| 05:35.23 | Hunterkll | i know i had touch out of box on some systems immediately |
| 05:35.42 | ag4ve_ | NetEcho: we run it on some boxes that require a ui to run an app |
| 05:36.00 | ag4ve_ | so, it's a fine DE, just not very colorful |
| 05:36.16 | ag4ve_ | shit, i should probably run it on my laptop, but meh |
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| 05:36.21 | hanasaki | what systems |
| 05:36.25 | Hunterkll | CDE for everyone |
| 05:36.32 | Hunterkll | CDE is best DE |
| 05:36.33 | hanasaki | lol |
| 05:36.37 | Hunterkll | for the masses |
| 05:36.46 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, i chose it every time on solaris and aix until it was no longer an option |
| 05:36.47 | Hunterkll | :( |
| 05:37.01 | NetEcho | ag4ve_ it's a decent system so I'm curious to see how the backend applications behave with a DE running. |
| 05:37.17 | Hunterkll | if it's truely decent |
| 05:37.20 | Hunterkll | you probably won't notice |
| 05:37.30 | Hunterkll | kinda like my laptop |
| 05:37.31 | hanasaki | Hunterkll: so what do you do to get deb running on 64mb and how much can you really do in that space? |
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| 05:37.39 | NetEcho | not sure which system he picked up but I told him at minimum 8gb DDR3, and it's most likely a AMD A10 proc |
| 05:37.45 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, hold one boot image and a bootp system with tftp support |
| 05:37.46 | Hunterkll | :P |
| 05:37.55 | Hunterkll | NetEcho, oh. so not like my laptop. :P |
| 05:38.10 | Hunterkll | (i7 haswell, 32GB ram, 1 SSD, 2 SSHDs, GTX 765m, etc. :P ) |
| 05:38.11 | NetEcho | Hunterkll I'm running the same apps on my system with no X and 12GB RAM and it takes some performance hits |
| 05:38.24 | NetEcho | nice |
| 05:38.27 | Hunterkll | have you profiled to see why? |
| 05:38.32 | Hunterkll | yea, i run 10-20 VMs at a time on my laptop |
| 05:38.33 | Hunterkll | heh |
| 05:38.42 | Hunterkll | so i kinda need it since i'm no where ever long enough to have desktop power or bring it with me |
| 05:38.42 | NetEcho | I'm running a i5 4670k on this bad boy currently 8gb going to be upgrading to 16 |
| 05:38.52 | Hunterkll | not bad |
| 05:38.56 | NetEcho | 1 SSD 1 mechanical, GTX 660Ti |
| 05:39.28 | NetEcho | got the i5 cause it was a bundle sale and I couldn't resist a cheap enough upgrade that allows me to go to a i7 4770k at any time |
| 05:39.31 | Hunterkll | heh |
| 05:39.55 | NetEcho | 660ti was from my old system, buddy gave it to me for watching his house 2 years ago heh |
| 05:40.14 | NetEcho | anyway I gotta head to bed, night |
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| 05:41.11 | ag4ve_ | NetEcho: tbh, on a beefy system, who cares? just run whatever he's confortable with and call it a day |
| 05:41.24 | hanasaki | Hunterkll: running kvm? vbox? ... |
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| 05:43.10 | ag4ve_ | hmmm, i only run about 10 dockers at a time... not much use for VMs anymore |
| 05:43.24 | ag4ve_ | otoh, i have no use for windows, so.... |
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| 05:44.15 | ag4ve_ | and desktop ram is soooo cheap - i need to max all of my desktops out asap |
| 05:44.32 | ag4ve_ | Hunterkll: got any desktop ram you want to sell :P |
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| 05:46.01 | Geoffrey_C | I am running stock wheezy install with gnome. I use vlc to watch movies as movie player crashes a lot. I went into sound settings and adjusted stereo balance to the left speaker and the sound got screwed up, some things too loud others too quiet. I went back into sound settings and the balance slider was back at middle. The weird thing is that the sound is fine in movie player but screwed up in vlc. I have tried completely removi |
| 05:46.02 | Geoffrey_C | ng vlc and reinstalling but it's the same. |
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| 05:46.58 | Geoffrey_C | Where do the sound settings actually live? I tried alsamixer but it's just a volume control |
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| 05:51.25 | Hunterkll | woo. no more LDAP vulns |
| 05:51.27 | Hunterkll | that are known. anyway |
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| 05:51.50 | Geoffrey_C | ok I fixed it. sorry for stupid question i swear i spent like 2 hours trying to fix that. |
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| 06:03.07 | gynter | Hello, I have this issue: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=319837 |
| 06:04.34 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, aptitude safe-upgrade kept me from getting infected, thanks |
| 06:04.56 | hanasaki | pardon? infected with what |
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| 06:05.43 | Hunterkll | hanasaki, systemd haters joke |
| 06:05.47 | Hunterkll | kinda like funroll-loops.com |
| 06:05.55 | Hunterkll | not meant to be taken serously ;) |
| 06:06.10 | hanasaki | umm ya... I have learned :) |
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| 06:07.48 | hanasaki | Hunterkll: does the stock download work on those small systems or what do you need to do to make it fit |
| 06:07.57 | Hunterkll | i tear it apart |
| 06:08.00 | Hunterkll | then copy it |
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| 06:17.30 | pederindi | Hi, a user I installed debian has blurry fonts. VGA: intel graphics. Is the dpi of the font? |
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| 06:21.08 | Yoshi1 | ummm i was updating and i got this message EXTLINUX No bootloader integration code anymore The extlinux package does not ship bootloader integration anymore. If you are upgrading to this version of EXTLINUX your system will not boot any longer if EXTLINUX was the only configured bootloader. Please install grub-pc |
| 06:21.14 | Yoshi1 | do i need to be concerned? |
| 06:21.38 | Yoshi1 | i dont think i have grub-pc is rthere a manual somewhere? |
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| 06:27.01 | talin | hello. i am looking for a distro that i can use on both server and desktop. i am narrowing in on debian and centos. i like that debian looks more traditional and unix-like (installation and so on). what would you say are the differences? does debian have long term support as well? |
| 06:27.15 | talin | primarily i care about security and stability |
| 06:27.30 | talin | for desktop i don't really need the latest and greatest... |
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| 06:28.37 | laite^ | talin: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
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| 06:29.52 | richac | i'm wondering if someone can help me |
| 06:30.13 | richac | i forogt the passphrase to my tripwire, then i deleted it, and now i can't get it working |
| 06:30.23 | richac | i'm missing the /etc/tripwire/tw.cfg file |
| 06:31.57 | talin | laite^: thank you |
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| 06:34.08 | talin | is debian being actively maintained? i hope it's not anything like its webpage :p |
| 06:34.19 | laite^ | If somebody in the channel has more info about how the LTS is going and if it will be extended with debian 7, I would be also very interested |
| 06:34.47 | laite^ | talin: I think debian is one of the most actively maintained distros out there :) |
| 06:35.04 | talin | laite^: ah, great |
| 06:35.18 | talin | laite^: the webpage looks like it was made in the 90s though, compared to centos.org, ubuntu.com etc |
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| 06:35.34 | talin | the content on the page is amazing, just not the looks |
| 06:35.36 | hanasaki | talin: its active.. it's the base for a lot of stuff.. ubuntu builds off it |
| 06:36.15 | talin | excellent |
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| 06:36.52 | bezaban | and the web page(s) are actually pretty functional and they load quick, which is all I ask of a web page :) |
| 06:36.58 | hanasaki | talin: it rollsout releases a bit slower than some dists... but it is rock solid |
| 06:37.49 | talin | bezaban: yep, they work well. when you want to convince some management guy that you want to install it on your servers, they usually check it out and thinks it's a neglected product though |
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| 06:38.24 | talin | hanasaki: rock solid is exactly what i'm looking for :) |
| 06:39.09 | hanasaki | talin: "corporate" likes "vendors" so they can buy support contracts... if you want that... go RHEL or Sun. If you have good team... go Deb! |
| 06:39.12 | talin | bezaban: what i'm saying is the webpage doesn't reflect the rock solid, amazing distribution that debian is |
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| 06:39.54 | talin | hanasaki: in this case they have no problem with not having vendors, but it's the 10th time this month that i have to defend the project after some management guys look at the project website |
| 06:40.11 | hanasaki | whatsthe project |
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| 06:40.21 | bezaban | talin: ah, I see |
| 06:40.42 | talin | there's this million lines, amazing distro with a website that has 100 lines of crappy css |
| 06:40.57 | hanasaki | talin: anyting can look pretty.... paint on rust is bad news. |
| 06:41.21 | talin | hanasaki: in this case, it's cheap paint on a diamond, i think |
| 06:41.31 | hanasaki | yuk.. why!? |
| 06:41.59 | bezaban | fire them up an osx server :P |
| 06:42.36 | talin | hanasaki: http://centos.org/ gives off an aura of a solid, clean project |
| 06:42.58 | talin | bezaban: well, i'll be the one running the servers, so i'd rather use debian |
| 06:43.22 | talin | bezaban: and i will use debian, i'm just tired of explaning that it's not some abandoned project from the 90s :) |
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| 06:57.12 | hanasaki | how can a remote computer bring up the kde and/or gnome login gui? |
| 06:57.34 | Hunterkll | hrm |
| 06:57.38 | Hunterkll | a problem we've solved ages ago |
| 06:57.39 | Hunterkll | :P |
| 06:57.41 | vSquare | VNC or X11 forwarding? |
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| 06:57.55 | hanasaki | been messing with vnc and xdmcp .. no luck |
| 06:58.12 | Hunterkll | XDMCP has the login manager urnning locally |
| 06:58.16 | hanasaki | kinda like the spice stuff that brings in audio too.. however that only works in a vm |
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| 06:58.43 | hanasaki | care to be more detailed and instructive than just "yup.. I can do that"? |
| 06:58.44 | hanasaki | grin |
| 06:59.05 | Hunterkll | http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ |
| 06:59.41 | hanasaki | been through all that |
| 06:59.52 | Hunterkll | well |
| 06:59.54 | Hunterkll | try it on something more simple |
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| 07:00.01 | Hunterkll | and don't use the KDE login manager, use XDM :D |
| 07:00.05 | Hunterkll | so it's even more simple! |
| 07:00.06 | hanasaki | why |
| 07:00.15 | Hunterkll | then just start your DE in .xinitrc or w/e |
| 07:00.20 | Hunterkll | (this is how i do it, so it's what i know) |
| 07:00.27 | hanasaki | ok |
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| 07:00.56 | Hunterkll | it works from my <1 year old laptop |
| 07:00.56 | Hunterkll | to my 1990 sun system |
| 07:00.56 | Hunterkll | :D |
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| 07:11.47 | Anarch | Somehow, using aptitude, I accidentally cleared the list of new packages before I reviewed it. Is there some way to recover that list, or to do something equivalent, like sort recently-added packages by date, either in aptitude from local data, or by reviewing some list available on the web? |
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| 07:35.37 | jelly-home | Anarch: aptitude and dpkg (and apt) keep logs in /var/log |
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| 07:35.54 | jelly-home | oh, you mean newly added to the repo |
| 07:36.00 | Anarch | jelly-home: Thanks, checking ... |
| 07:38.51 | Anarch | jelly-home: Sadly, the logs don't mention forgotten packages. The terminal log doesn't show the interaction that forgot them, either. Hmm. |
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| 07:48.22 | colo-work | is there a simple video editor available in Debian? all I want to do is speed up the playback of a certain section of a video, to reduce its runtime |
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| 08:03.37 | Deli_Blackrose | derp |
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| 08:14.52 | nezZario | Just wondering |
| 08:15.59 | nezZario | What's the most practical way to make shortcuts to remote boxes (ssh)? I really don't like using an external gui shell client. Right now I've just been doing aliases but it's getting impractical (like to connect to the server srv3 I type srv3 which is an alias to the ssh command) |
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| 08:17.06 | qjqqyy | .ssh/config allows you to give "nicknames" to servers, nezZario |
| 08:18.01 | tralala | nezZario, man ssh_config for details |
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| 08:21.12 | dagon_ | hey guys. I'm having some troubles with 'dpkg-scanpackages' |
| 08:21.19 | dagon_ | I'm getting Permission denied |
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| 08:21.37 | dagon_ | -bash: Packages.gz: Permission denied |
| 08:21.51 | dagon_ | but why? Internet is not being nice today |
| 08:23.24 | tralala | dagon_, why don't you show us the exact command and error message? |
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| 08:38.02 | widij | hi how do i check what ethernet card i using? |
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| 08:38.31 | bdog7 | widij, ifconfig ? |
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| 08:38.53 | widij | bdog7: no what i meant was |
| 08:39.01 | widij | drivers for ethernet card |
| 08:39.09 | widij | how do i check this? |
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| 08:40.20 | viktor89_ | any good free cpanel alternatives? |
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| 08:42.12 | tralala | widij, go through the boot logs in /var/log/syslog |
| 08:42.22 | widij | nono |
| 08:42.31 | widij | no need |
| 08:42.34 | widij | there is command for it |
| 08:42.48 | widij | to see what ethernet card you are using |
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| 08:43.15 | widij | ifconfig is showing IP addresses |
| 08:43.20 | widij | not the name of card |
| 08:43.49 | Hunterkll | lsmod ? |
| 08:43.55 | Hunterkll | lspci ? |
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| 08:46.49 | widij | Hinterkll: thanks |
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| 08:49.56 | tralala | widij, this will not show you the driver, only the device info |
| 08:50.15 | tralala | (lspci) |
| 08:50.45 | tralala | lsmod will show you all the drivers in use and it's up to you to find/guess which one is for the ethernet card |
| 08:51.28 | |\|19hTVV0|F | lol hunterkll |
| 08:51.54 | Hunterkll | tralala, he was asking for the specific card, not the driver |
| 08:51.56 | Hunterkll | oh |
| 08:51.57 | Hunterkll | nevermind |
| 08:51.58 | Hunterkll | missed that |
| 08:53.01 | |\|19hTVV0|F | so you left your irc for noobs? |
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| 08:56.06 | widij | tralala ok |
| 08:56.16 | widij | how do i check my sound drivers? |
| 08:56.22 | widij | for sound card |
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| 08:58.04 | Jonuz | Does option a mean that apt will ingore packages which have bug and doesnt install those? http://pastebin.com/Fq3cqUu1 |
| 08:58.42 | Sbroker` | greetings, I m using debian 7.6 and the stable version of chrome. I updated chrome from 37.90 to 37.120 and the adobe sockwave plug in has crashed ¿someone with the same problem? |
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| 09:01.19 | N3RG4L_ | Is there any version of lxde compiled for PowerPC (P8) ? |
| 09:01.44 | N3RG4L_ | ../ Hi |
| 09:02.17 | babilen | judd: v lxde --arch ppc |
| 09:02.18 | judd | Package: lxde on i386 -- squeeze: 0.5.0-4; sid: 4+nmu1; jessie: 4+nmu1; wheezy: 4+nmu1 |
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| 09:02.22 | tralala | widij, the same way as your ethernet drivers (assuming your sound card has been recognised and the proper drivers loaded) |
| 09:02.34 | bdog7 | Sbroker, yes I seen that too |
| 09:03.03 | bdog7 | Sbroker`, |
| 09:03.17 | tralala | widij, btw why do you care about the drivers? |
| 09:03.35 | bezaban | I've had to stop using chrome in stable for a while as it freezes and creates artifacts. Haven't looked into it yet as the easiest was just to use firefox |
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| 09:03.50 | Sbroker` | I sent the feedback to google but they dont answered me!! |
| 09:03.51 | babilen | (both are not in Debian) |
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| 09:04.51 | babilen | Sbroker`: Chrome does not use Adobe's flash plugin and isn't supported here anyway (as it is not packaged) |
| 09:05.13 | Sbroker` | babilen, what ? |
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| 09:05.31 | babilen | Sbroker`: Feel free to form a complete sentence |
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| 09:06.00 | relaxed | Sbroker`: maybe google-chrome-beta will work for you. |
| 09:06.05 | Sbroker` | babilen, chrome incluides adobe flash and all adobe plug ins in the package compilation |
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| 09:06.32 | babilen | Sbroker`: No, it doesn't. It includes pepperflash and not Adobe's flash implementation. |
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| 09:07.00 | babilen | Sbroker`: Either way, we don't support it in here. (chromium + pepperflashplugin-nonfree are in the repos) |
| 09:07.14 | Phyliares | Hi, anybody could tell me how can i authorize cn=admin,cn=config access in a slapd.conf installation? I want to be able to modify cn=config through ldapvi, cannot remember |
| 09:07.43 | babilen | Phyliares: #openldap might be a better channel for that discussion |
| 09:07.46 | N3RG4L_ | babilen, --arch ppc it returns a i386... |
| 09:07.59 | Sbroker` | babilen, go to the adobe home page using chrome and try to install flash and say to me what s the message that you can see |
| 09:08.06 | N3RG4L_ | but for P8 I think it doesn't support x86 anymore |
| 09:08.10 | Phyliares | babilen: Yes i've cross-posted... sorry but maybe someone could help ;) |
| 09:08.17 | N3RG4L_ | it should be ppc native |
| 09:09.33 | babilen | Sbroker`: Chrome is *not* working with Adobe flash. It does not use it nor does it support it, but ships its own implementation (pepperflash) -- Please drop it as we really don't support Chrome in this channel. |
| 09:10.11 | babilen | N3RG4L_: Are you running powerpc right now? |
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| 09:11.07 | N3RG4L_ | babilen, yes |
| 09:11.15 | N3RG4L_ | under debian wheezy |
| 09:11.20 | babilen | N3RG4L_: So, what does "apt-cache policy lxde-core" give you? |
| 09:12.02 | babilen | (please don't paste into the channel but to, say, http://paste.debian.net or http://refheap.com) |
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| 09:12.54 | Sbroker` | babilen, http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/flash-player-google-chrome.html ---> You dont know about you are talking |
| 09:12.58 | Sbroker` | and ok I stop |
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| 09:13.51 | dagon_ | tralala: nvm, fixed it. had to run as root |
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| 09:14.42 | babilen | Sbroker`: yes, that is pepperflash, not Adobe's implementation. And please refrain from comments like that. They are neither helpful nor particularly nice. |
| 09:15.17 | Sbroker` | read... |
| 09:15.29 | Sbroker` | and stop with the theme |
| 09:15.54 | N3RG4L_ | babilen, "apt-cache policy lxde-core" returns http://paste.debian.net/120508/ |
| 09:16.05 | babilen | Sbroker`: http://www.chromium.org/developers/npapi-deprecation -- so please drop it. |
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| 09:16.39 | Sbroker` | I m talking about chrome not chronium |
| 09:16.44 | Sbroker` | read... |
| 09:16.44 | babilen | N3RG4L_: You should be able to install that, but IIRC the recommended way is to use "aptitude install lxde" |
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| 09:17.44 | babilen | Sbroker`: Yes, Chrome is not supported here and ships its own version of flash (which is *not* Adobe's implementation that was based on NPAPI before. Flash is, however, generically called "Adobe Flash"'. So, if you want support for Chrome take it elsewhere. |
| 09:18.12 | Sbroker` | stop with the theme beacuse you dont have reason |
| 09:18.15 | Sergonium | so, what are we having for dinner? |
| 09:19.40 | jelly | babilen: Sbroker` is just nitpicking, what Google Chrome ships is Adobe's code adapted for new API. Not sure whether the best description would be a fork with Google taken care of it completely, or just a port |
| 09:19.59 | jelly | none of that is Debian related tho |
| 09:20.04 | babilen | indeed |
| 09:20.20 | babilen | And Pepperflash is not developed by Adobe AFAIR |
| 09:20.40 | jelly | if you have sources inside Google and Adobe to confirm that, good for you |
| 09:20.59 | jelly | does not |
| 09:21.00 | Sbroker` | I stoped , why do you continuos ? |
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| 09:34.24 | cusco | hey folks |
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| 09:34.41 | cusco | I'm trying to make grub boot from md0 |
| 09:34.45 | cusco | metadata is 0.90 |
| 09:34.48 | jelly | Sbroker`: there have been other reports of flash crashing with 64bit chrome 37.0.2062.120 |
| 09:34.53 | cusco | but it drops to a grub rescue |
| 09:35.06 | cusco | what am I missing? |
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| 09:36.10 | Sbroker` | jelly, I supose that I m not the only one... |
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| 09:42.48 | hetOrakel | hi, i have a harddrive of wich the bytes 0x1000 to 0x2000 are not readable. I have ddrescue-ed the whole drive to a spare one, but i can not read the drive with those missing 4096 bytes..... Any-one know how to proceed, or where to ask? |
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| 09:44.26 | hetOrakel | off course i can "magicrecue/aforemost/photorec" etc etc the data but i believe there must be a better way.... |
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| 09:55.06 | Wandip | Okay ive got my sound to work, My mic is still dodgy |
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| 09:56.33 | Wandip | I dont know if ive fixed the problem or just bypassed it for now |
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| 09:56.44 | Wandip | Could anyone here be so kind and help me? |
| 09:57.38 | Wandip | Ive been looking for hours, and i cant figure out WTF is up with this shit |
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| 10:02.26 | Wandip | Anyone here? Sound Releated Problems Need Help Please! |
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| 10:03.03 | Naphatul | i'm trying to install jessie with virt-manager, which type of OS version should i select since jessie isn't listed? wheezy? |
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| 10:10.26 | Wandip | I have some problems configuring my microphone, its static like fuck Anyone ? |
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| 10:14.37 | Wandip | 1 hour ive been trying to get a hold of any1 here |
| 10:14.46 | Wandip | impossibru |
| 10:16.03 | babilen | Wandip: microphones aren't really the main focus of this channel |
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| 10:16.31 | bdog7 | Wandip, yes we are hear, if people can help and available they will, maybe try some more details, mic tested known to be working? |
| 10:16.40 | babilen | (nor is your "shit", "any1", .. particularly inviting) |
| 10:17.34 | Wandip | Sec |
| 10:17.40 | Wandip | i can give you the hardware specifics |
| 10:17.41 | babilen | You might want to ask in #pulseaudio and/or #alsa (dependending on your configuration) or at least provide more details to what exactly it is you are doing and how you configured your system. |
| 10:17.45 | Wandip | if that would help you |
| 10:18.23 | widij | babilen: hes microfone sound is crackle |
| 10:18.26 | Wandip | its the sound in general |
| 10:18.53 | Wandip | it choose my hdmi over my normal sound outputs, i got a headset and speakers plugged in, it cant find the headset for example |
| 10:19.07 | Wandip | the Motherboard is gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 |
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| 10:19.50 | Wandip | and as widij said the mic is also sparkling, so i thing there is something wrong with the chipset driver |
| 10:20.41 | Wandip | im on a fresh install , so i havent really configured anything but the gfx card |
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| 10:23.51 | cienti | hi |
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| 10:28.20 | widij | hi how do i check my hard drives? |
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| 10:28.41 | Wandip | Hello everyone, I have a huge problem with the sound on my Ubuntu atm, After install it chose the HDMI by default, and now ive gotten the speakers to work, but for some reason it cant find the headset, Wich is weird, Also the mic is Sparkling like hell, So im thinking its something with the chipset drivers. Anyone know anything about this? |
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| 10:29.11 | SynrGy | !ubuntuirc Wandip |
| 10:29.11 | dpkg | Wandip: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
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| 10:29.28 | malinus | widij, what does "checking hard drives" mean? |
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| 10:30.47 | widij | malinus: i want to check both my hard drives on my computer |
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| 10:31.04 | widij | info |
| 10:31.12 | malinus | widij, what kind of info? |
| 10:31.24 | widij | malinus: name, space etc |
| 10:31.37 | malinus | widij, try "df -h" to start with |
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| 10:31.58 | malinus | widij, otherwise hdparm |
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| 10:33.03 | widij | malinus: it not display my both harddrives |
| 10:33.10 | widij | only 1 of them. it looks like |
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| 10:33.22 | SynrGy | the other one isn't mounted, then |
| 10:34.18 | widij | SynrGy: could i format the other hard drive somehow? |
| 10:34.43 | SynrGy | lshw -short -class disk |
| 10:35.05 | SynrGy | leave off '-short' if that doesn't give you enough info |
| 10:35.28 | SynrGy | you probably need to install lshw first: apt-get install lshw |
| 10:35.34 | widij | done |
| 10:35.40 | widij | * /dev/sdb |
| 10:35.49 | widij | could i format this one somehow? |
| 10:36.04 | SynrGy | yes. there's nothing on it you need to save first? |
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| 10:36.15 | widij | SynrGy: already saved |
| 10:36.16 | widij | :) |
| 10:37.12 | SynrGy | for a graphical tool, there is gparted |
| 10:37.27 | widij | SynrGy: do you know how to format it? i am using ssh right now. so only console please |
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| 10:37.48 | SynrGy | otherwise, parted, fdisk, or cfdisk, and mkfs.ext4 |
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| 10:39.03 | cienti | I'm doing [Windows + PuTTY] >> [Debian + screen]. Inside debian, I have a pdf open via framebuffer and "green" viewer, and is shown perfect but as "local" framebuffer on tty. I want to send pure keystrokes to the server, like if i have plugged a keyboard (i though on some like a virtual device, but don't know what to search for). Someon knows how to do this ? |
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| 10:42.33 | SynrGy | !debian handbook |
| 10:42.33 | dpkg | The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, it can also can be installed from the debian-handbook package. Also ask me about <books> <docs>. |
| 10:42.40 | SynrGy | widij: that probably gives step-by-step |
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| 10:46.27 | SynrGy | widij: huh. from a brief skim through the table of contents, maybe not :/ |
| 10:46.46 | SynrGy | it helps with the partitioning during initial install, but not after |
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| 10:55.36 | widij | SynGy: thanks |
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| 10:56.07 | widij | are selinux installed in debian by default? |
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| 10:59.51 | SynrGy | !selinux |
| 10:59.51 | dpkg | Security Enhanced Linux (SELinux) is NSA's port of the FLASK Security Architecture to Linux. Also it can make your system unbootable if you uninstall it. Unofficial FAQ: http://www.crypt.gen.nz/selinux/faq.html . http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux http://selinuxproject.org/ #selinux on irc.freenode.net. See also <apparmor>, <tomoyo>. |
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| 11:01.03 | SynrGy | $ grep -i selinux /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 11:01.03 | SynrGy | CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX=y |
| 11:01.07 | SynrGy | etc. |
| 11:01.18 | gribouille | hi |
| 11:01.21 | SynrGy | widij: so yes, it's in the kernel by default. but as to what you do with it, that's up to you. |
| 11:01.38 | gribouille | how can I monitor ethernet trafic on the terminal? |
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| 11:03.18 | malinus | Hello. How do I figure out which driver I should install for my graphic card? I have the "VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]". |
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| 11:04.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell malinus -about radeon |
| 11:04.46 | bdog7 | !radeon |
| 11:04.46 | dpkg | Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>. |
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| 11:07.17 | gribouille | I need a tool to display the ethernet frames on the terminal |
| 11:07.29 | malinus | babilen, seems I already have that installed |
| 11:07.43 | bogus- | iptrafic? gribouille |
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| 11:08.17 | bogus- | iptraf, sorry |
| 11:08.18 | gribouille | bogus-, what's that? |
| 11:09.11 | tralala | gribouille, the programme that lets you monitor traffic. tcpdump is another one |
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| 11:10.33 | gribouille | the programs work on the IP or TCP level. I need a program that worms on the ethernet level |
| 11:10.43 | ChrisH | CieNTi: what are you doing? You want to see a PDF on a textterminal (Putty)? I did not understand your question. |
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| 11:12.14 | malinus | maybe I should write out the problem to avoid A->B questions. I already have xorg, xbmc and the drivers for my card (or at least I think so?). However when I try to launch xbmc it tells me that "Error: unable to open display XBMC needs hardware accelerated OpenGL rendering.Install an appropriate graphics driver.". Any ideas? Obviously I don't have any DE/WM etc. |
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| 11:13.05 | jgeek | hi all, I'm unable to access share folder of debian from windows 7. any help ? |
| 11:14.13 | CieNTi | ChrisH: i phisically see the display of the debian machine, and is showing a PDF via command line with "green" application. But i have mouse+keyboard connected via USB to a windows machine. I want to send keys to that famebuffer application, no matter the way I use, but without connecting phisically the keyboard |
| 11:14.17 | tralala | gribouille, I'm pretty sure tcpdump can do what you need |
| 11:15.05 | BenNZ | jgeek: have you installed samba? how have you configured it? and what error message do you get when you try ? |
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| 11:15.46 | SynrGy | CieNTi: sounds like a job for 'expect' or so |
| 11:15.51 | jgeek | BenNZ: I installed samba, and configured with no security at all. but in windows 7 machine it asks for a user and password |
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| 11:16.10 | jgeek | BenNZ: I use wireless network |
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| 11:16.36 | Let-Love-Lead | Does "Debian LXDE" come with power manager? |
| 11:16.46 | CieNTi | SynrGy: but expect is an automation app, how can it help me ? |
| 11:16.50 | malinus | also when trying to startx, even though the graphical mode seems to change, it hangs after changing (the console is not responsive anymore) |
| 11:17.01 | SynrGy | CieNTi: then i, too, have misunderstood your problem. |
| 11:17.06 | BenNZ | jgeek: pastebin (ie use dpaste.com or similiar paste site) your /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 11:17.25 | SynrGy | CieNTi: when you said "send keys" i imagined you meant "programmatically" |
| 11:17.33 | CieNTi | oh no no |
| 11:18.24 | jgeek | BenNZ : http://dpaste.com/34Y98DA |
| 11:18.56 | jgeek | BenNZ : [public] is the one I configured |
| 11:19.42 | SynrGy | CieNTi: if not programmatically, then what is wrong with simply giving that window focus and pressing keys? still not getting it. |
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| 11:20.07 | SynrGy | CieNTi: what is special about the framebuffer being involved that makes it fail? |
| 11:20.18 | CieNTi | think this: work with windows, but I have another physical display at my right hand, connected to a debian box. That display can show text-mode and graphical-mode. I dont have full X + wm + dm installed, i'm just showing a PDF in a graphical way. |
| 11:20.28 | gribouille | how can I send a broadcast frame? |
| 11:20.39 | SynrGy | CieNTi: got it |
| 11:20.41 | CieNTi | This forces me, from window, only to see my ssh connection in my putty screen, but i cannot "send" keys to the viewer |
| 11:20.54 | BenNZ | jgeek: under global settings add security = share |
| 11:20.59 | SynrGy | right. the framebuffer is on the second physical box, but no keyboard attached |
| 11:21.04 | CieNTi | and without physically connecting keyboard, wants to control that app hehe |
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| 11:21.13 | CieNTi | yeeep |
| 11:21.14 | SynrGy | yep. so if it were X11, i'd say "synergy" |
| 11:21.15 | CieNTi | that is |
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| 11:22.36 | SynrGy | CieNTi: ttysnoop? |
| 11:22.45 | CieNTi | let me check |
| 11:22.47 | BenNZ | jgeek: also youre going to need to give "others" access to /bot/ |
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| 11:23.17 | jgeek | BenNZ: I tried security = share, but still no luck, |
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| 11:23.28 | jgeek | BenNZ: how to give "others" to access ? |
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| 11:25.06 | SynrGy | CieNTi: that, or conspy |
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| 11:25.46 | CieNTi | i already tried conspy but ... or i'm configuring wrong or it don't works |
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| 11:25.51 | BenNZ | jgeek: use directory mask = 0777 , its not secure tho , everyone would have read/write |
| 11:25.57 | SynrGy | looks like conspy is more recently updated |
| 11:26.28 | CieNTi | anyway, if i'm in fail: the "place" where I see the PDF is, physically talking, in "CTRL+ALT+F7" |
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| 11:26.39 | CieNTi | how can I see which tty is it |
| 11:26.46 | CieNTi | to try conspy once more |
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| 11:27.03 | SynrGy | lsof? |
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| 11:27.08 | BenNZ | jgeek: also you might find you need to chmod 777 /bot/ , but again thats not secure at all |
| 11:27.09 | SynrGy | dunno |
| 11:27.13 | Tau | hello. it is crazy, i just installed the pepperflash thing it seems it is okay in the chromium plugin list but i cant watch porn it keeps saying the plugin wasnt loaded. |
| 11:27.19 | Tau | holy christ. |
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| 11:27.31 | jgeek | BenNZ : I did that, still it asks the password |
| 11:27.50 | BenNZ | jgeek: did you restart the samba daemon ? |
| 11:28.27 | CieNTi | dev fb0 and dev tty7 |
| 11:28.31 | jgeek | BenNZ: I used /etc/init.d/samba restart |
| 11:28.52 | jgeek | BenNZ: after all the configuration |
| 11:28.58 | Terminator | Tau: install mint. |
| 11:29.12 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.16 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.20 | Tau | what do you mean? |
| 11:29.27 | CieNTi | if I use "conspy 7" trying to connect to tty7, it do it right, but no keystroke are sent |
| 11:29.28 | Terminator | Yes |
| 11:29.36 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.43 | BenNZ | jgeek: i would use sudo service samba restart , youll probably have to refresh the network in windows too |
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| 11:29.59 | CieNTi | i tried also a simple echo > /dev/fb0 too if case, but failed |
| 11:30.07 | jgeek | BenNZ: I'll try that |
| 11:30.09 | Terminator | Because debian is mainly for server. |
| 11:30.15 | SynrGy | CieNTi: may be some fb-specific wierdness |
| 11:30.32 | SynrGy | weirdness* |
| 11:31.03 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:31.09 | babilen | Terminator: That is simply not true and it would be nice if you could rather help users use Debian so that they are happy rather than ask them to install derivatives. |
| 11:31.13 | Tau | i have been using it for years for desktop. |
| 11:31.24 | Tau | why didnt someone just tell me that before |
| 11:31.25 | Tau | ? |
| 11:31.29 | babilen | Tau: It is perfectly fine to use Debian on your workstation or desktop |
| 11:31.42 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.43 | jgeek | BenNZ: I restarted windows network and did service samba restart in debian. but still no luck. is it something to do with /etc/hosts configuration ? |
| 11:31.57 | SynrGy | CieNTi: oh, conspy *is* the framebuffer-aware alternative to ttysnoop (from reading the description) ... |
| 11:32.02 | SynrGy | CieNTi: bahh. ask upstream? |
| 11:32.12 | babilen | Tau: You are trying that in chromium aren't you? |
| 11:32.14 | SynrGy | CieNTi: every indication is, conspy *should* work |
| 11:32.20 | BenNZ | jgeek: you shouldnt need to change that unless you have a complex network setup |
| 11:32.23 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.40 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.44 | Tau | however i can't watch videos. |
| 11:32.48 | Tau | it says it couldnt load the plugin. |
| 11:32.54 | babilen | Tau: Does it work on, say, Youtube ? |
| 11:33.01 | SynrGy | Tau: works for me (TM) |
| 11:33.14 | babilen | (and you did restart the browser, didn't you?) |
| 11:33.23 | jgeek | BenNZ: I don't think that I have a complex network setup, but can't think why windows is keep asking a password |
| 11:33.51 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:33.59 | BenNZ | jgeek: pastebin the output of testparm |
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| 11:34.09 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.12 | babilen | Tau: Some websites are very particular/broken in their flash plugin detection, so it might simply be the case that you might need a newer (older?) version. I'd try a few more websites before I'd conclude that it isn't working. |
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| 11:34.21 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:34.33 | babilen | That shouldn't be necessary, but fair enough :D |
| 11:34.37 | jgeek | BenNZ : http://dpaste.com/2P6G6TD |
| 11:34.51 | BenNZ | jgeek: also the output of ls -al / | grep /bot |
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| 11:35.13 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:35.16 | babilen | Tau: It sounds as if it is rather a problem with those particular websites than with your browser and/or plugin installation. |
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| 11:35.34 | jgeek | BenNZ : # ls -al / | grep bot |
| 11:35.34 | jgeek | drwxrwxrwx 2 janith root 4096 Sep 12 14:53 bot |
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| 11:36.12 | babilen | Tau: I don't really know what they are doing, but they might check for and/or support only very specific flash versions (and in particular the 'old' npapi adobe plugin) |
| 11:36.24 | Tau | ok |
| 11:36.29 | BenNZ | jgeek: ok did you add security = share ? |
| 11:36.31 | SynrGy | Tau: if they're using java to deliver it, you are sol |
| 11:36.44 | jgeek | BenNZ: yes |
| 11:36.47 | BenNZ | jgeek: also change map to guest = Bad User to map to guest = nobody |
| 11:36.48 | SynrGy | afaik, due to killing npapi, there's no java on chromium |
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| 11:36.50 | babilen | Tau: Iceweasel and Chromium use different plugins these days (Chromium deprecated NPAPI and uses the pepperflash plugin that comes with Chrome) |
| 11:36.56 | SynrGy | (unless that has changed ...) |
| 11:37.17 | babilen | That was the case last time I checked (6-10 weeks ago IIRC) |
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| 11:38.12 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:38.24 | babilen | Tau: We would probably have to debug those websites directly which I, unfortunately, cannot help with at the moment due to their content. |
| 11:38.38 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:38.39 | zh1 | is chrome on debian with any bug on shockwave flash? |
| 11:38.48 | CieNTi | SynrGy: can't get work :S. I'm sshing to my debian, login with user and suing to root, and "conspy 7" becayse fb is on tty7. It appear the keystroke im trying to send on screen (not all) but the physicall app don't reply |
| 11:38.55 | SynrGy | zh1: what? that was barely english |
| 11:38.56 | babilen | Tau: But I can assure you that you general statement is not true |
| 11:38.57 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:39.07 | Tau | i tried to access my bank account last week and it didnt work either. |
| 11:39.14 | jgeek | BenNZ: now it doesn't show the shared folder from windows. it asks for the password. btw, why testparm doesn't show security = share ? |
| 11:39.29 | BenNZ | jgeek: ok i think its becuase security = share is now depreciated |
| 11:39.32 | bdog7 | zh1, yes google chrome last stable has issues with flash/shockwave |
| 11:39.53 | SynrGy | and is not a bug anyway? |
| 11:39.55 | nkuttler | chrome is fine, pepperflash is buggy |
| 11:39.57 | CieNTi | SynrGy: so after trying this i though on some kind of app that simply "listen" to keys and send to fb ... |
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| 11:40.28 | nkuttler | zh1: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761184 |
| 11:40.38 | zh1 | because removed flash and chrome and shockwave flash keeps always crashing, problem is that on my other pc with debian runs fine |
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| 11:41.13 | nkuttler | zh1: what does you "removed flash" mean? what does "flash crashes" mean? |
| 11:41.29 | BenNZ | jgeek: you might have to user security = user , try asking in #samba |
| 11:41.31 | SynrGy | zh1: we don't support google chrome here, in any case. if you want help with chromium, however, we can help. |
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| 11:41.49 | nkuttler | ugh, chrome again.. |
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| 11:42.04 | Tau | i dream with a day that i will wake up horny then turn my computer to fap to some porn without having to come to #debian for help on how to load a porn video because there is some odd bug in some odd stuff. |
| 11:42.05 | Tau | ;~ |
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| 11:42.30 | babilen | Tau: You could try running "update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install --verbose" to make sure that you have the latest version. It works fine here on sid with chromium 35.0.1916.153-2 (that upstream version is also in wheezy-security) and pepperflash 14.0.0.145 in about:plugins |
| 11:42.40 | SynrGy | i dream of a day when people treat this as a support channel, and not a place to share their private lives |
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| 11:42.43 | jgeek | BenNZ: ok I'll try. thanks :) |
| 11:42.55 | babilen | SynrGy: TMI indeed |
| 11:43.02 | zh1 | bdog7, the version i have of flash is the same at that bug report but issue doesnt seem exactly same |
| 11:43.29 | nkuttler | babilen: the latest pepperflash wants libc6 2.4, not in wheezy |
| 11:43.46 | SynrGy | ah, fun times |
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| 11:44.08 | bdog7 | flash sucks........ just sayin |
| 11:44.18 | zh1 | hate it too lol |
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| 11:44.44 | zh1 | i would ban it from the Outernet and pc world if i could |
| 11:45.10 | zh1 | forbideen to use it :) |
| 11:45.47 | zh1 | SynrGy, was just asking, i have chromium too but that one is fine |
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| 11:46.08 | SynrGy | sure, you can ask all you want. just don't expect results :) |
| 11:46.14 | nkuttler | zh1: you probably haven't upgraded the system-wide pepperflash |
| 11:46.28 | zh1 | how can i do it? |
| 11:46.41 | nkuttler | zh1: update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 11:46.47 | nkuttler | zh1: but that will break it ;) |
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| 11:47.31 | zh1 | nkuttler, what do you mean like break it? what would than mean |
| 11:47.52 | nkuttler | zh1: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761184 |
| 11:49.32 | zh1 | nkuttler, if i completely remove flash and chrome the issue should be resolved no? |
| 11:49.47 | jelly | zh1: sure, but you won't have flash then |
| 11:50.05 | jelly | it's not that much functionally different that having a crashing flash |
| 11:50.15 | jelly | than* having |
| 11:51.00 | SynrGy | too true |
| 11:51.08 | zh1 | jelly, but i pretend to reinstall again of course |
| 11:51.22 | jelly | zh1: it won't make a difference |
| 11:51.33 | zh1 | because last time i did this didnt work |
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| 11:53.03 | zh1 | forgot this, so if i have flash in chrome and have flash installed on debian for another browsers, its normal a conflict? |
| 11:54.17 | jgeek | BenNZ : it got worked, the debian machine I use had smbpasswd user added |
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| 11:54.55 | jgeek | BenNZ : I simply removed that user, thanks for you help :) |
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| 11:55.37 | jelly | zh1: chrome has its own flash. Chromium can use that one. Other browsers use a different build of adobe flash, and they won't break if you remove chrome. |
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| 11:56.20 | zh1 | jelly to have flash in chrome and iceweasel+chromium how should i setup in your view? |
| 11:56.54 | jelly | zh1: you should wait until Google realizes their build does not work on Debian and fixes it |
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| 11:58.43 | pgb | patternbook command not found, any ideas? |
| 11:58.44 | bdog7 | btw, is there a download for the previous chrome version? |
| 11:59.01 | yopyop | Hello, i have a problem with network manager on jessie. I use openvpn to create a vpn, I can't prevent nm to manage the tun device created and it generate bad config. With nm off, it works fine. How can i prevent nm to manager that tune device (i tried "iface mytun inet manual" in interfaces but it doesn't work |
| 11:59.01 | nkuttler | pgb: install it? |
| 11:59.08 | pgb | nkuttler: from where? :) |
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| 11:59.17 | zh1 | jelly, but im not sure if this is a bug, bdog7 said there was one reported but... |
| 11:59.17 | nkuttler | !tell yopyop about debian-next |
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| 11:59.22 | nkuttler | !tell pgb about errors |
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| 11:59.35 | voxadam | Does anyone ever see "Error: Timeout was reached" after any apt*? |
| 11:59.39 | bdog7 | i never said one was reported |
| 11:59.45 | Vaabric | I use a cronjob which running every day at 0:15. It copies files into another device. this works fine. Sometime it needs longer then 24hours. This make trouble, because then they start the compress process several times. For that i want to create a script which check "is a process with this name running? If yes then do nothing (because then they do it next time) |
| 11:59.54 | nkuttler | voxadam: sure, e.g. when the network is slow.. |
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| 12:00.04 | SynrGy | or completely broken |
| 12:00.16 | zh1 | bdog7, i mean you did a paste with a report |
| 12:00.24 | bdog7 | not me |
| 12:00.34 | bdog7 | I just agreed about issues |
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| 12:01.22 | zh1 | bdog7, sorry wasnt you was nkuttler |
| 12:01.42 | nkuttler | zh1: hm? |
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| 12:02.20 | voxadam | nkuttler: I'm 8 hops and ~34 ms from debian.osuosl.org on a 50/10 (about 47/7 in the real world) from my mirror. |
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| 12:02.29 | pgb | so I'm trying to build someone elses package, nad in his Makefile there is a line which runs a command called patternbook which looks like greps changelog and extracts version and some other stuff..., I didn't know about this tool and it may or may not be something this block hes wriote himself, but I thought I can ask here as he is on leave now |
| 12:02.55 | voxadam | f |
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| 12:03.12 | nkuttler | voxadam: or the mirror is slow.. |
| 12:03.29 | nkuttler | voxadam: try http.debian.net, and if not something like apt-spy i guess |
| 12:04.18 | nkuttler | pgb: is there a README or INSTALL file? |
| 12:04.47 | nkuttler | pgb: doesn't seem to be in debian anyway |
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| 12:06.40 | jelly | zh1: it's a bug to make a package for Debian 7 and build it against GLIBC_2.14 symbol |
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| 12:06.56 | jelly | zh1: it's an upstream bug, and only Google can fix it |
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| 12:07.12 | void | hello |
| 12:07.40 | void | i can connect to the vpn of my company but i cant use internet null conexion ... some help about it ? |
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| 12:11.36 | pgb | nkuttler: not to worry, I'll work sth-ing out... thx anyway |
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| 12:13.24 | malinus | I've followed this channels bot adivce, and installed all the packaged for my gfx. However, when running glx I still get "Error: unable to open display". I have xorg installed too. Any ideas? I'm trying to avoid installing non-free drivers, is that possible? |
| 12:13.46 | malinus | I have "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]" |
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| 12:14.24 | SynrGy | malinus: so, you installed the non-free firmware too? |
| 12:14.36 | SynrGy | firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 12:14.56 | malinus | SynrGy, I'm trying to avoid using the nonfree packages. but that is impossible? |
| 12:15.09 | SynrGy | !radeon firmware |
| 12:15.10 | dpkg | Binary-only firmware was removed from the radeon <DRM> driver at linux-2.6 2.6.29-1 (Debian bug #494009) and is packaged separately in firmware-linux-nonfree. Without this package installed, poor 2D/3D performance in the <radeon> xorg driver is commonly experienced. To acquire, ask me about <non-free sources>. This is not required for use of the <fglrx> driver. |
| 12:15.12 | SynrGy | no |
| 12:15.20 | SynrGy | and this is *only* the firmware, not the driver |
| 12:15.40 | SynrGy | if the card had come with a ROM embedding the firmware, it would be exactly the same situation |
| 12:15.46 | SynrGy | your card *needs* the firmware. |
| 12:16.01 | SynrGy | if you don't like that, then use different hardware |
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| 12:16.30 | malinus | okay thanks, I guess I just add the non-free repository then |
| 12:16.40 | SynrGy | or just install the one deb |
| 12:16.54 | SynrGy | (but then you need to watch for updates) |
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| 12:21.01 | WilliamDhalgren | hi! how long does it typically take for a major program to get into sid_ |
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| 12:21.16 | WilliamDhalgren | after a new stable release I mean |
| 12:21.34 | SynrGy | we thrive on specifics. we also are very poor with crystal balls |
| 12:21.36 | babilen | WilliamDhalgren: It is impossible to answer that nor is it very clear what you mean exactly |
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| 12:23.06 | WilliamDhalgren | I'm wondering if it is odd or typical for a wait to be 155ish days, as I'm nervously awaiting GHC 7.8 to get there. due to a significant improvement on ARM arch support. |
| 12:23.08 | SynrGy | WilliamDhalgren: 'major program' is not a clearly defined thing. don't be coy. just ask about the specific package you're interested in. also, see tracker.debian.org if you want to see *past* News for the package |
| 12:23.28 | SynrGy | and if you think it has any predictive value whatsoever for your case |
| 12:23.46 | WilliamDhalgren | not that I'm complaining as such, just so I can know if this is a regular thing or just a case of bad luck |
| 12:24.11 | WilliamDhalgren | its in experimental apparently, but doesn't build for ARM there |
| 12:24.25 | SynrGy | the more deeply infrastructural a thing is, the longer i would expect to wait |
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| 12:25.19 | WilliamDhalgren | right, that makes sense |
| 12:25.34 | SynrGy | as for specifics, there is often a wishlist bug to package a new version, and if there is, you find it and read comments on it |
| 12:25.49 | SynrGy | that can give you valuable information about how the effort is proceeding |
| 12:25.57 | WilliamDhalgren | that's useful, thx |
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| 12:26.30 | SynrGy | failing that, individual packaging teams (if it is team-maintained, which for infrastructural things is usually the case) have development mailing lists |
| 12:26.35 | SynrGy | and you can check those for progress. |
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| 12:28.15 | SynrGy | also, start with the assumption the maintainers know about the new release and are working as hard as they can to make sure it gets into debian, and not pester them needlessly about delivery date :) |
| 12:28.51 | SynrGy | funny thing is, they don't seem to like that, as a rule :p |
| 12:29.20 | WilliamDhalgren | oh, def. |
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| 12:29.48 | WilliamDhalgren | obv they are working on it, as I said it is in experimental. but seems not to exist on arm. problems I suppose |
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| 12:31.22 | SynrGy | yeah. i wouldn't worry about it overly much. if it looks like they've hit some blocker you think you can help with ... great! otherwise, just be patient |
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| 12:32.20 | SynrGy | (i.e. look for bugs filed on that version, the maintainers' dev list as i mentioned, etc.) |
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| 12:32.55 | WilliamDhalgren | yeah, thx for the references. I really didn't know where to seek further info, hence asking here. |
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| 12:34.16 | SynrGy | bugs.debian.org for bugs, the Maintainers: field of the package often contains the dev list ... |
| 12:34.29 | SynrGy | and those lists have archives. seek and ye shall find :) |
| 12:35.57 | WilliamDhalgren | but I do gather from that response - prob a blocker - that it is an atypical situation, for sid? I know the q is generic, just curious, and perhaps people more familiar with the workings of deb have a feeling on the matter, whereas I'd have to compare date for date, do statistics... |
| 12:36.27 | SynrGy | WilliamDhalgren: large, complex transitions can take multiple months |
| 12:36.39 | SynrGy | if you're on sid, see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
| 12:36.59 | SynrGy | in particular, read the 'sid faq' in channel topic, and in there are some more resources on tracking transitions, etc. |
| 12:37.26 | SynrGy | a 'transition' occurs when a large set of interdependent packages in the archive all need to change together |
| 12:37.34 | WilliamDhalgren | makes sense. thx. no, testing w some few sid packages via pinning. |
| 12:38.01 | WilliamDhalgren | ie I'd take a sid pkg if I really need the new ver, like in this case, and its still not in testing |
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| 12:38.30 | SynrGy | WilliamDhalgren: well, you know that unless you're rebuilding from unstable sources, stable/unstable mix is not supported at all |
| 12:38.38 | SynrGy | it's a good way to break things |
| 12:38.51 | SynrGy | !ssb |
| 12:38.51 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 12:39.00 | SynrGy | ^^ that's the only supported way |
| 12:39.22 | SynrGy | if your package has a backport, then great, use that. otherwise, it's up to you to backport your own. |
| 12:39.49 | WilliamDhalgren | yeah. ah, muddling through when I need to, nothing more, I'm aware there is no support |
| 12:40.01 | SynrGy | k. i suggest you use a chroot for that. or a VM |
| 12:40.02 | talin | how does debian manage to compete with distributions such as redhat who have lots of paid (and unpaid) individuals working on it, in terms of security and progress? |
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| 12:41.10 | SynrGy | talin: don't know what you mean by "compete", since debian is not a commercial entity, and therefore does not compete in the marketplace with these companies at all |
| 12:41.39 | talin | SynrGy: i mean in terms of security. or perhaps how it "compares" would be a better way of asking |
| 12:41.48 | WilliamDhalgren | compete for mindshare? for installations in the real world? |
| 12:42.20 | SynrGy | i think debian takes security seriously and i find the security team hard working, responsive and trustworthy |
| 12:42.27 | SynrGy | what else do you want? |
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| 12:43.10 | talin | i'm very happy with debian - i'm just curious if e.g. centos has quicker response times when security issues are discovered, or if anything else is greener on that side |
| 12:43.19 | SynrGy | if you want an objective analysis by "unbiased" "security experts" you probably aren't going to find that here. |
| 12:43.26 | SynrGy | try google |
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| 12:44.02 | SynrGy | as i said, i've not been unhappy so far (using debian nearly 20 years) |
| 12:44.22 | talin | SynrGy: have you been experimenting with lots of distros? |
| 12:44.25 | POSlaA | Hello, I am totally unfamiliar with command line programs and I need help. I installed Coreutils and I managed to run it from command prompt, but I am not sure how to process a file, what I should type. |
| 12:44.25 | SynrGy | but i'm only one biased user |
| 12:44.49 | SynrGy | talin: no, but neither do i live under a rock |
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| 12:45.49 | SynrGy | i may lack broad experience with different distros, but have broad enough social connections in the field to get a sense that those who stick with debian long-term, prize it for its stability and responsive security |
| 12:46.06 | talin | SynrGy: excellent. that's the kind of thing i'm looking for |
| 12:46.09 | SynrGy | and mutter and curse and some <other distros> for the same |
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| 12:46.32 | SynrGy | but this is why i point you away from irc ... i don't think you'll get unbiased evaluations on that here :) |
| 12:46.41 | CissWit | talin: i think response time is the same. The main advantage of red hat is that they maintain systems for a *very* long time |
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| 12:46.49 | CissWit | or more or less the same |
| 12:46.58 | SynrGy | which may or may not be an advantage |
| 12:47.01 | SynrGy | depends on what you value |
| 12:47.08 | WilliamDhalgren | talin: its really a rock-solid platform. high number of voluteers etc. Not sure how much commercial involvement in it - would make sense given how large entities use it (eg munich, german embassies...). derivatives with some commercial entities behind it, like ubuntu, have some interest in contributing to debian etc - but no idea on exact numbers etc... |
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| 12:48.27 | SynrGy | POSlaA: *installed* coreutils? wtf? |
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| 12:48.45 | SynrGy | POSlaA: which debian release is this you are using? |
| 12:49.03 | talin | i see. it doesn't seem like there's any great advantage to using centos over debian |
| 12:49.05 | POSlaA | I am using Windows, sorry. :) |
| 12:49.07 | SynrGy | POSlaA: because the only systems i could think of where you do not *already* have coreutils would be embedded systems (i.e. not debian) |
| 12:49.14 | POSlaA | Yeah. |
| 12:49.15 | SynrGy | POSlaA: or that. |
| 12:49.19 | SynrGy | POSlaA: see ##windows ? |
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| 12:49.44 | SynrGy | or else see GNU |
| 12:50.15 | POSlaA | I tried GNU but nobody answered there for hours. I am desperate. It shouldn't metter, the commands are probably the same cross-platform. |
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| 12:50.20 | POSlaA | Did I say I am a total noob? |
| 12:50.53 | CissWit | we noticed :D |
| 12:50.58 | POSlaA | Yep. :) |
| 12:51.00 | SynrGy | POSlaA: i'm sorry, but we only support debian. we can't know what differences there are between coreutils on your platform and on debian. we only support debian here. |
| 12:51.13 | SynrGy | POSlaA: maybe ##linux could give you some tips? |
| 12:51.30 | SynrGy | but don't go around bugging the invididual distro channels. they'll likely give you a similar cool reception. |
| 12:51.46 | POSlaA | OK, I'll try Linux, though I only need an example script for processing a file with DD (program included with Coreutils). |
| 12:52.24 | zh1 | POSLaA gonna have to read a lot of manual |
| 12:52.30 | zh1 | for a start |
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| 12:53.01 | SynrGy | i've found windows dd to be a somewhat horrible implementation :( for what purpose do you need dd? if you're trying to simply write a bootable image to USB, for instance, there are better tools for that. |
| 12:53.19 | POSlaA | I found a list of available commands that DD supports, but I don't know what I should type in order to apply them to a file. |
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| 12:53.28 | malinus | I'm trying to install the non-free radeon drivers for my switchable graphic cards. However apt gives me this error: http://paste.debian.net/120525/ |
| 12:53.28 | POSlaA | Can't find any examples. |
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| 12:54.23 | SynrGy | malinus: you gave up on just trying to use the non-free firmware? |
| 12:54.29 | soffio | why weechat is outdated there? http://paste.debian.net/plainh/69f9221b i can see a new version by web https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/weechat |
| 12:54.36 | POSlaA | SynrGy: I actually need to strip 44 bytes of a MP4 file. |
| 12:54.49 | malinus | SynrGy, didn't seem to work... |
| 12:54.54 | zh1 | malinus just install broken packages |
| 12:54.59 | SynrGy | malinus: you rebooted afterwards? |
| 12:55.14 | malinus | SynrGy, after install firmware-linux-nonfree? yes |
| 12:55.25 | SynrGy | malinus: and what was the result? |
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| 12:56.14 | SynrGy | POSlaA: so yeah, there's info out there if you look for it, but your inquiry is off-topic for here. sorry |
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| 12:56.58 | malinus | SynrGy, glxinfo still says that it's unable to open display, xbmc still says that I have no drivers. But I saw a slight change in the terminal (other resolution that doesn't fit the screen). |
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| 12:57.12 | SynrGy | malinus: glxinfo is a whole different issue |
| 12:57.12 | POSlaA | OK. Thank you for trying anyway. By the way, I cannot send a message on Linux channel, it says: "Cannot send message to channel, you are not voiced" Whatever that means. |
| 12:57.27 | SynrGy | malinus: so then we need to verify if you have mesa |
| 12:57.36 | SynrGy | have it, and didn't break it ... ;) |
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| 12:58.18 | SynrGy | malinus: do you have libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx installed? |
| 12:58.47 | malinus | SynrGy, yes |
| 12:59.01 | SynrGy | did you run glxinfo from within X? |
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| 13:00.10 | malinus | SynrGy, thing is, X seems to be one of my problems too. when I start x (initx/startx). It changes the font, resolution etc. but the terminal is not responsive. |
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| 13:00.47 | cusco | I have no ideas of how to make grub detect and boot from md0 |
| 13:00.57 | SynrGy | malinus: so i think you have something more than just broken graphics driver issues |
| 13:01.34 | SynrGy | malinus: terminal is all black? what do you mean by "not responsive" |
| 13:01.52 | SynrGy | i've seen gnome-terminal in a non-gnome environment come up with black foreground on a black background ... |
| 13:01.58 | SynrGy | this obviously does not work very well ;) |
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| 13:02.33 | SynrGy | and so, flipping to a virtual console or using ssh and typing 'glxinfo' and expecting that to work ... is not reasonable |
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| 13:02.38 | SynrGy | it must talk to X |
| 13:02.51 | SynrGy | so fix your broken terminal first (just don't use gnome-terminal if you're not in gnome :) |
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| 13:03.20 | malinus | SynrGy, I don't have any DE/WM installed |
| 13:03.29 | SynrGy | lxterminal, xfterminal, xterm, rxvt-unicode ... take your pick |
| 13:03.36 | malinus | let me try a few |
| 13:03.57 | SynrGy | so how are you starting up? startx /usr/bin/xterm ? |
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| 13:04.13 | soffio | can i ask something again after some time if i don't get a reply? |
| 13:04.14 | SynrGy | that would start X and and xterm. nothing else |
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| 13:04.46 | SynrGy | soffio: checking your paste ... |
| 13:05.05 | SynrGy | because you're on armel perhaps? |
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| 13:06.14 | malinus | SynrG, exactly (startx /usr/bin/xterm) I get a, white background filling about 1/4 of the screen (upper left corner). I can see the black text on the white background, (malinu@malserver:). but it seems to hang (no blinking off _ and no respond to input) |
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| 13:06.57 | SynrGy | soffio: http://packages.debian.org/weechat-core |
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| 13:07.18 | SynrGy | soffio: see wheezy-backports entry, which has the newer version for a bunch of arches, but not yours |
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| 13:08.04 | soffio | SynrGy: i see, thanks |
| 13:08.06 | SynrGy | soffio: see also http://tracker.debian.org/weechat links in the sidebar |
| 13:09.00 | SynrGy | soffio: hmm, logs & ports neither of those seem to give any backports info ... |
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| 13:10.10 | soffio | idk :( |
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| 13:13.19 | SynrGy | malinus: odd. well, it's conceivable that fglrx solves this. do you have a mix of wheezy + backports installed there? |
| 13:13.27 | SynrGy | ,v fglrx-driver |
| 13:13.28 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:13.12-4~bpo70+1; sid/non-free: 1:14.4.2-1; experimental/non-free: 1:14.6~betav1.0-1 |
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| 13:17.10 | SynrGy | malinus: i mean, did this system formerly have a different gfx card / drivers on it? something that would account for that conflict? if you just apt-get install fglrx-modules-dkms, does it go into details why that (or any of the other recommends) are not installed? |
| 13:18.27 | malinus | SynrGy, no this is a fresh debian install. I have no idea what was on it before that and how it worked. However the display (it's a laptop), is not working, hence I'm using the hdmi-out. Which might have something to do with the resolution-bug. I was however successfully able to launch xbmc. |
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| 13:20.11 | SynrGy | malinus: the conflict doesn't make any sense to me, then. what do you have in your /etc/apt/sources.list? and when i say "formerly", i mean from *this* install, not any previous install. |
| 13:20.32 | SynrGy | malinus: let's see the output of 'apt-cache policy' |
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| 13:21.47 | malinus | SynrGy, both things right here: http://paste.debian.net/120530/ |
| 13:22.48 | SynrGy | looks pretty normal to me. and the output from 'apt-get install fglrx-modules-dkms' please |
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| 13:24.09 | malinus | oh that works just fine SynrGy, installing |
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| 13:26.34 | SynrGy | curious that fglrx-driver doesn't. must be some other dep it breaks on |
| 13:26.56 | SynrGy | malinus: iterate over each of the Recommends: it tries to install that currently breaks (see your previous paste) |
| 13:27.10 | SynrGy | see if we can get more info about why one of those is breaking |
| 13:27.18 | jeredepp | hello everyone, i setup backup-manager on my debian machine, and i'm trying to test my configuration, it needs to backup 133gb onto a mounted sambashare, now i started the tool with "backup-manager -v -d" to get some output, but the tool seems to hang, archive gets created but doesn't grow. Any hints on how to properly evaluate my setup? Permissions are correct, drive is mounted and has enough space. |
| 13:27.23 | malinus | okay, thanks |
| 13:27.44 | SynrGy | malinus: afaik, you need the whole fglrx-driver, not just the one package i asked you to install, so ... |
| 13:27.49 | SynrGy | !fglrx |
| 13:27.49 | dpkg | fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD/ATI Radeon HD and FirePro graphic processing units. As of fglrx-driver 1:12-6~beta-1, R600 and R700 based GPUs (Radeon HD 2000/3000/4000 series) are no longer supported; ask me about <fglrx legacy> or use the <radeon> driver for device support. To install fglrx, see http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary or ask me about <fglrx dkms>. |
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| 13:28.27 | SynrGy | malinus: should be following the wheezy instructions there ... |
| 13:29.01 | SynrGy | malinus: don't forget you also need the linux-headers package, as that wiki pg indicates |
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| 13:29.49 | SynrGy | for your card, the wheezy version (not wheezy-backports) should suffice |
| 13:30.20 | SynrGy | just as a refresher for anyone else helping him: |
| 13:30.21 | SynrGy | 09:13 < malinus> I have "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]" |
| 13:30.30 | SynrGy | i'm busy elsewhere now |
| 13:30.31 | SynrGy | later |
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| 13:31.35 | pompeii | hello everyone, can anyone suggest a linux/foss application to have all social accounts at one place and post simultaneously? |
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| 13:36.48 | centrx | pompeii, I think you're more like to find a website/webapp that does that |
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| 13:38.14 | pompeii | centrx, yes, there are a handful of commercial websites of sochcial medhia markethers..with free/basic/xyz memberships..but I wanted to know if I can find a free one that doesnt take my whole life hostage |
| 13:38.37 | zetheroo1 | using UVNC to remotely access Debian Wheezy causes UVNC to crash, whereas for other Linux distro's it works - what could be the cause of this? |
| 13:38.47 | SynrGy | pompeii: if you're on social media, your whole life is already taken hostage |
| 13:38.54 | allthatisthecase | pompeii: gwibber |
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| 13:40.43 | pompeii | SynrGy, true, but then this one company will have an aggregate peek on all..better one less..:) |
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| 13:40.56 | SynrGy | pompeii: true again |
| 13:41.15 | SynrGy | i haven't used gwibber recently. did an initial try and it seemed to be pretty fat |
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| 13:41.29 | SynrGy | didn't see the advantage to throw it huge amounts of resources for my use case. ymmv |
| 13:41.50 | pompeii | SynrGy, which made me feel like checking again what the guys busy with alternative networks have been doing |
| 13:42.07 | SynrGy | yeah |
| 13:42.16 | SynrGy | i've never seen any of those "take off" :/ |
| 13:42.40 | SynrGy | if you want your message to reach any sizable audience at all, you are hostage to the "big" social networks :( |
| 13:43.11 | SynrGy | self-publish as much as you can, and just link back to your self-published material. |
| 13:43.32 | pompeii | allthatisthecase, thank you, I'd used gwibber briefly a while ago, will try again |
| 13:43.35 | SynrGy | at least then the social media networks only claim ownership of the links, which are of little value |
| 13:44.19 | SynrGy | got a self-hosted blog? put your stuff up there. |
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| 13:44.52 | pompeii | SynrGy, yes, I'm mostly self-publishing blog-length posts. haven't done it with microblogging yet, though |
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| 13:45.46 | pompeii | when one uses microblogging, it sort of self-imposing to tell what you'd like to on the spot |
| 13:45.54 | pompeii | it is* |
| 13:46.26 | pompeii | due to reaching the message question, as you mentioned |
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| 13:46.55 | SynrGy | yeah. haven't found a good microblogging alternative |
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| 13:47.24 | pompeii | there used to be identi.ca RIP |
| 13:47.48 | SynrGy | pump.io? but i don't know anyone who actually uses that |
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| 13:48.42 | SynrGy | ah, identi.ca was pump.io based? |
| 13:49.01 | pompeii | they turned it into pump.io based..I could never make it beyond login screen. always got the message that new registrations are stopped |
| 13:49.45 | SynrGy | well, the thing about "federated" microblogging is that it doesn't depend on the continued existence of central authorities, right? |
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| 13:49.50 | SynrGy | or am i missing something important ... |
| 13:50.12 | pompeii | I'd read about that they have given up some aspects of identi-ca in transition |
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| 13:50.38 | pompeii | yes. it was supposed to be that. |
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| 13:52.07 | Gr1 | Hi everyone |
| 13:52.21 | Gr1 | Do we have someone here that worked with FAI? |
| 13:52.30 | Gr1 | Desparately looking for some help |
| 13:52.47 | SynrGy | pompeii: hotpump.net? i have a feeling we're veering OT for here though :) |
| 13:53.15 | t3ngu | Fédération Aéronautique Internationale ? |
| 13:53.22 | SynrGy | pompeii: except for the fact that yes, any pump.io client in debian ought to be able to talk to hotpump.net ... |
| 13:53.32 | SynrGy | !fai |
| 13:53.32 | dpkg | Fully Automatic Installation (FAI) is an automated tool to install or deploy Debian (and other distributions) on a bunch of different hosts or a cluster. It is more flexible than tools like <kickstart> (Red Hat), autoyast and alice (SuSE) or jumpstart (Oracle Solaris). FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. http://fai-project.org/ #fai on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:53.42 | afidegnum | hi all, , good evening, I am using a dedicated server running on debian 7, I have configured my vanity nameserver, how do I set up a reverse DNS and PTR in my account? |
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| 13:54.04 | SynrGy | !ask |
| 13:54.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:54.10 | centrx | vanity nameserver: 2COOL4.com |
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| 13:54.45 | Gr1 | When we are trying to clone boxes today, its giving this error on the nfs server. |
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| 13:54.51 | Gr1 | mount call failed: nfs-mount1 rpc.mountd[39670]: can't stat exported dir /srv/fai/nfsroot:vers=3: No such file or directory, as it is trying to stat the file /srv/fai/nfsroot:vers=3 and not accepting :vers=3 as itâs version. Once we change it to /srv/fai/nfsroot (without specifying the version), it mounts ifs root directory, but is giving a filesystem readonly error and is stuck. |
| 13:54.54 | Gr1 | on top, we can see /usr/lib/fai/prcopyleftL line16 Cannot create temp file for here-document: Readonly filesystem |
| 13:55.00 | Gr1 | http://pastebin.com/5SarPaPx |
| 13:55.05 | Gr1 | for the pxe cfg |
| 13:55.07 | t3ngu | SynrGy: my bad. had no idea :) |
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| 13:55.28 | t3ngu | i bet its WAY better than fucking chef |
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| 13:57.31 | SynrGy | Gr1: you may have better luck checking #fai @ irc.oftc.net as indicated above. |
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| 13:57.45 | SynrGy | Gr1: don't forget the network part. i.e. oftc is not freenode |
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| 13:58.32 | Gr1 | SynrG: Tried my luck there mate. Not a good day for me. |
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| 13:58.52 | t3ngu | speaking of FAI, has anyone managed to kickstart debian? |
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| 13:59.38 | pompeii | SynrGy, also many others: http://status.net/wiki/List_of_servers |
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| 14:02.20 | SynrGy | pompeii: most of them dead, or nearly dead? :/ |
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| 14:02.53 | SynrGy | and page not updated since 2012. yay :p |
| 14:03.34 | pompeii | SynrGy, oh really are they?..but hotpump.net works |
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| 14:03.58 | SynrGy | yeah, looks like |
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| 14:12.05 | doubletwist | IN wheezy - I can't find anything on google about this - pidgin [2.10.9-1~deb7u1] has a week or two ago started having issues - works fine for awhile then stops updating the windows? Just me or is anyone else seeing this? |
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| 14:13.04 | doubletwist | been running with debug logging on and i'm not seeing anything there that looks relevant |
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| 14:16.11 | Nectur | doubletwist: i haven't used pidgin that long yet. i have had no issues with 2.10.9 yet though |
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| 14:19.04 | EdePopede | could it be the graphics driver?i have the same issue with xchat sometimes and with many open tabs in one firefox window sometimes some of the tabs at the right margin disappear untill scrolling them. (i have a cheap nvidia, so a tend to blame this part for problems) |
| 14:19.47 | doubletwist | EdePopede: I suppose it could be - though nothing else is having issues. It's an ancient Quadro card [NVS 285] |
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| 14:21.55 | EdePopede | isn't there something like the directx tests in <censored> or memtest? could be some specific operations, so i think this could help |
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| 14:26.36 | pompeii | Gwibber seems to have changed a lot since Iast time, though I haven't had done much with it then..but 'add account' is not clickable at the moment.. |
| 14:26.41 | pompeii | last* |
| 14:27.02 | jnny | in i3 window manager, what stands for mod2 on config file? |
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| 14:31.10 | allthatisthecase | pompeii: yeah, I've just noticed that it seems to require unity or the gnome account settings to set up. how lame! |
| 14:31.18 | allthatisthecase | sorry about that |
| 14:31.40 | pompeii | allthatisthecase, do you know how they should be set up? |
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| 14:32.31 | allthatisthecase | pompeii: not sure. I guess you have to have that gnome3 online account set up tool. i think it's also in the recommends of that friends tool or whatever they call it now |
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| 14:38.19 | pompeii | allthatisthecase, oh, ok, I think I must do a short reading :) |
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| 14:39.13 | bumbar | i have a long log line (showing in terminal), which command would i use to strip first n words/characters? |
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| 14:41.09 | centrx | bumbar, you could use cut, that's usually used based on delimiters, not first n characters |
| 14:41.32 | centrx | bumbar, but it will work, e.g. with words the delimiter would be a space -d " ", assumings it's formatted regularly |
| 14:41.48 | centrx | bumbar, You could also use regex |
| 14:42.12 | centrx | with sed or perl or egrep or something |
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| 14:43.42 | delaytime0 | bumbar: awk is also possible, but cut should do the job |
| 14:44.05 | pompeii | allthatisthecase, I read that I might have to restart pc..maybe it helps |
| 14:44.06 | EdePopede | unless it isn't a purely english text :/ |
| 14:44.31 | EdePopede | cut should still be broken regarding multybyte characters |
| 14:44.35 | EdePopede | s/y/i/ |
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| 14:49.08 | bumbar | centrx, delaytime0, thanks, did it with cut |
| 14:49.55 | bumbar | is it possible to get it to work with words? had to do a trial and errors with character counting :P |
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| 14:51.10 | centrx | bumbar, s/^(\w+ ){x}// |
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| 14:51.27 | centrx | bumbar, something like that, replacing {x} with {the number of words}, like {2} |
| 14:51.43 | centrx | bumbar, you can do that with sed 's/etc |
| 14:52.04 | bumbar | that just replaces first n words with empty string, right? |
| 14:52.24 | centrx | might need sed -e |
| 14:52.26 | centrx | bumbar, correct |
| 14:52.30 | bumbar | neat, thanks |
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| 15:02.42 | t3ngu | fine weekend folks |
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| 15:10.20 | hichamat | What is the best tool to make incremental file backup ? rsync ?? |
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| 15:14.01 | bitgeek | hello, I'm trying to install Steam on my Jessie with GeForce 7300 |
| 15:14.06 | bitgeek | but when I do aptitude install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 |
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| 15:14.28 | bitgeek | it installs drivers 340.XXX which aren't compatible with 7300 |
| 15:14.47 | bitgeek | is there a way to block upgrade from 304.XXX ? |
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| 15:16.14 | babilen | bitgeek: Why don't you have nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms installed? |
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| 15:16.30 | babilen | Oh, and you want #debian-next |
| 15:16.44 | bitgeek | ohh ok, thanks |
| 15:16.51 | tuor-work | hi, what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get? I allways use apt-get but what is aptitude and what has it, what apt-get not has. |
| 15:17.13 | jordanm | !tell tuor-work about aptitude |
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| 15:17.55 | babilen | bitgeek: The channel is on irc.oftc.net though (and you are probably looking for libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx) |
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| 15:18.49 | tuor-work | jordanm, ah thx. |
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| 15:19.06 | babilen | bitgeek: Also: tell them if you are installing the package in Debian |
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| 15:19.18 | babilen | *from Debian |
| 15:19.27 | malinus | there is some flag or something I have to change in dkpg that allows me to run X-application remotly on the local display. (i.e. DISPLAY=:0 startx xterm). I can't quiet find the right thing, could someone guide me in the right direction? |
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| 15:20.27 | bitgeek | babilen: new to weechat, trying to register the new server so I can join #debian-next, will try your suggested package in the meantime. |
| 15:20.36 | babilen | sounds good |
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| 15:21.19 | lax_ | Hello every one! I'm a noob on Debian and I need some help please... I have done a copy of a folder from an external disk and pasted it in a folder at my Debian's system disk... The transfert was interrupted and I have to do this copy / paste again... I would like to know how can I do it without replacing existing files please (I have a graphic interface that says "replace the file / replace all / ignore this file / cancel -> there is n |
| 15:21.24 | lax_ | very much |
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| 15:22.11 | bitgeek | lax_: man cp |
| 15:22.14 | Tau | hello. i want to develop addons/extensions for iceweasel. |
| 15:22.21 | Tau | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/Tutorials/Installation |
| 15:22.28 | bitgeek | lax_: the switch is -n (no clobber) I think |
| 15:22.29 | Tau | it says i need to install sdk. |
| 15:22.40 | Tau | my question is: i'm running iceweasel which is the fork of mozilla. |
| 15:22.52 | Tau | is there something else that i need to do in order to get it working? |
| 15:22.53 | lax_ | bitgeek : "man cp"? (I'm noob AND french :D lol) |
| 15:22.59 | Tau | is there a way to install addon-sdk from apt? |
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| 15:23.37 | bitgeek | lax_: man is help pages, at the command line just type 'man cp' without the ' |
| 15:23.44 | jelly | lax_: the command "rsync -Pan /source/directory/ /destination/directory/" might do the trick |
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| 15:24.12 | babilen | lax_: If you copy with the file manager it sounds as if you are looking for "ignore this file" (apply to all), but you might want to consider one of the command line alternatives that have been suggested. |
| 15:24.13 | lax_ | bitgeek : ok I will try this .. Thank you very much |
| 15:24.14 | jelly | rsync avoids copying if filenames, sizes, timestamps and permissions match |
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| 15:24.52 | lax_ | Thank u :) |
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| 15:25.30 | jelly | lax_: the command I wrote does nothing -- you can safely run it to see what it _would_ do, then when you're safe it does the right thing remove the -n option |
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| 15:30.18 | Aias_ | jelly: does rsync avoid doing that by default? |
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| 15:30.32 | Aias_ | that's nice |
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| 15:30.48 | Tau | which is the name of the package for iceweasel that is addons-sdk in mozilla? |
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| 15:32.35 | bitgeek | babilen: FYI, that packages caused problems, dmesg says 'no screens found (EE)' |
| 15:32.55 | bitgeek | had to do --purge remove nvidia-* to get my screens back |
| 15:33.03 | bitgeek | need to do some research |
| 15:33.21 | babilen | Please do, those are AFAICT the ones you want. |
| 15:33.30 | ruukasu | Need to get 5,815 kB of archives. |
| 15:33.30 | ruukasu | After this operation, 96.7 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 15:33.31 | ruukasu | wot |
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| 15:34.22 | babilen | ruukasu: Please elaborate on "wot" |
| 15:34.48 | ninad_d | please suggest, kali or wheezy⦠which is goof |
| 15:34.54 | ninad_d | good |
| 15:35.02 | ruukasu | how does less than 6MB of data extract into over 96? |
| 15:35.28 | jelly | ninad_d: given that you're in #debian, do you think we'd suggest using something other than Debian? |
| 15:35.29 | babilen | ninad_d: This is #debian, we naturally recommend running that. You might, however, like tracking testing or a testing/unstable mix. |
| 15:35.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell ninad_d -about install debian |
| 15:36.38 | jelly | ruukasu: that's a misinterpetation. You may have more packages, downloaded previously, waiting for installation as well |
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| 15:36.50 | ninad_d | greta, i thousht so, however if i need kali tools i can get them in deb right? |
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| 15:37.21 | jelly | has no idea what kali tools are |
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| 15:37.51 | jelly | is not called Greta, but it's a nice name |
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| 16:01.36 | gnugno | Hi, i have a problem with SMB i`m hoping someone here can help with. Whenever i try to transfer a file from my deb to windows using SMB it times outs if the file is more than 1221 bytes big. |
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| 16:01.57 | gnugno | less than that and it works fine. Transfer the other way is also fine |
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| 16:38.30 | abaday | has anyone here configured rancid on debian? |
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| 16:39.06 | abaday | I cant find the log file, that is supposed to be in /var/log/rancid |
| 16:42.40 | aaron83 | ok after aptitude purge apache2 i deleted manualy /etc/apache2 and /var/log/apache2 directories |
| 16:43.02 | aaron83 | then i try toinstall apache2 agains but....does not generate directories agains!!! |
| 16:43.14 | aaron83 | any idea why? |
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| 16:45.46 | stbatduke | abaday: this is not really a debian thing I'm guessing, but what did you see when you ran "sudo -u rancid -H /usr/bin/rancid-run" ? |
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| 16:47.18 | crhylove | What's the "proper" way to forward the default path of a server to a /folder (for instance /owncloud)? |
| 16:47.28 | crhylove | .htaccess, or? |
| 16:48.16 | stbatduke | crhylove: are you meaning like configure http://domain.com/ to forward to http://domain.com/folder ? |
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| 16:50.02 | jelly | crhylove: what kind of a server? |
| 16:50.05 | crhylove | stbatduke: Yes! |
| 16:50.19 | crhylove | debian owncloud |
| 16:50.31 | stbatduke | what type of web server crhylove ? |
| 16:50.37 | jelly | so, a web-based app on a http server. |
| 16:50.39 | stbatduke | apache / nginx etc ? |
| 16:50.45 | crhylove | apache2 |
| 16:51.13 | crhylove | I think I'm in jessie. |
| 16:51.15 | jelly | crhylove: you could just change the DocumentRoot to point to app's folder |
| 16:51.30 | stbatduke | My answer would be: depending on if you are in a hosting situation that involves cpanel or not, the best option would be to change the DocumentRoot in the vhost, but Jelly beat me to the answer |
| 16:51.32 | jelly | then there's no /folder from http://domain.com/folder at all |
| 16:51.39 | stbatduke | ^^ yes that |
| 16:51.45 | jelly | stbatduke: there is no cpanel in Debian :-) |
| 16:51.54 | crhylove | This is a standalone. :) |
| 16:52.00 | stbatduke | YAY!!!!!! |
| 16:52.09 | stbatduke | puked a little when I mentioned cpanel |
| 16:52.14 | stbatduke | hehe |
| 16:52.18 | stbatduke | so yeah the vhost option |
| 16:52.26 | crhylove | Well, it's a VM, anyway, so.... And yes, I also hate cpanel. |
| 16:52.32 | stbatduke | unless you really want the /folder to be visible |
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| 16:53.31 | crhylove | No vhost should be fine. Is that the one in /apache2/sites-available ? |
| 16:53.38 | crhylove | (default) |
| 16:53.56 | crhylove | Now to find the folder that owncloud wants to point to.... |
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| 16:55.18 | crhylove | This looks right: http://www.nineproductions.com/owncloud-quick-setup-for-debian/ |
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| 17:03.08 | crhylove | Success! |
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| 17:28.16 | cusco | ok folks, I'm in serious trouble for some time to be able to boot from md0 |
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| 17:29.01 | cusco | so, I resized a partiotion of the swap area (md1) and separated a few MB to /boot and crecreated md1 with less storage space |
| 17:29.11 | cusco | for some reason grub won't boot |
| 17:29.20 | cusco | I'm stuck here for quite some time and going mad |
| 17:29.40 | cusco | in the past I made a /boot partition on a md array, and booted from it |
| 17:29.48 | cusco | but I can't understand why I can't do the same now ! |
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| 17:30.17 | cusco | must boot partition be at the beginning of the disk ?? |
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| 17:32.55 | Sl0vi | what is a good way to run a bash script at startup? |
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| 17:33.09 | resixian | Sl0vi: for the systme or a user? |
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| 17:33.18 | Sl0vi | for the system |
| 17:33.38 | Sl0vi | and I don't want a service, I just want to execute some commands |
| 17:33.55 | resixian | you can use /etc/rc.local |
| 17:34.16 | resixian | or you can put the script in /usr/local/bin or so, then run it with cron @reboot |
| 17:35.20 | resixian | or you can create symlinks to your script from the appropriate /etc/rcX directories |
| 17:35.38 | resixian | but i guess that would be making it more like a service.. |
| 17:35.54 | Sl0vi | I'll try rc.local |
| 17:36.00 | resixian | so yeah. I usually do things with a script and the @reboot |
| 17:36.02 | Sl0vi | seems the simplest to start with |
| 17:36.30 | resixian | google can help you find some tutorials on it |
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| 17:43.07 | rcsheets | I'm having trouble figuring out which package I may need to install to alleviate this Python ImportError: http://paste.debian.net/120572/ |
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| 17:43.29 | resixian | does debian having anything like kdump pre-packaged? |
| 17:43.29 | rcsheets | this is on wheezy |
| 17:44.50 | rcsheets | resixian: like this maybe? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/kdump-tools |
| 17:45.03 | resixian | rcsheets: thanks |
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| 17:47.03 | resixian | rcsheets: isn't email part of the python standard library? |
| 17:47.48 | malinus | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.48 | rcsheets | resixian: i thought so. actually it seems this is somehow related to my cwd |
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| 17:48.55 | rcsheets | so, i retract the question |
| 17:49.58 | resixian | rcsheets: did you make a module named email? |
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| 17:50.48 | rcsheets | no, i just had an email.py that i was trying to use in order to test some mail stuff. and i forgot that python pays attention to files in your cwd when you do an import. :-/ |
| 17:50.49 | rcsheets | oops |
| 17:51.02 | resixian | rcsheets: i've dont that before too |
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| 17:53.17 | rcsheets | >_< |
| 17:54.18 | malinus | friday evening - where are my nerds at :)? |
| 17:54.25 | malinus | (jk) |
| 17:54.57 | dagon_ | hey guys. My sis has an Acer Aspire 5750g. When she connects to a TV via hdmi randomly the screen turns to black and it affects both the computer screen and the TV. What's wrong? |
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| 17:57.02 | SynrG | malinus: did you try just installing glx-alternative-fglrx itself to see what it is conflicting with? |
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| 17:57.52 | malinus | SynrG, http://paste.debian.net/120577/ |
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| 17:59.12 | SynrG | uhh |
| 17:59.19 | SynrG | ,v glx-alternative-fglrx |
| 17:59.20 | EdePopede | one general question: what about support/questions on programs that are not part of something bigger like GNU or Mozilla? |
| 17:59.20 | judd | Package: glx-alternative-fglrx on i386 -- squeeze-backports/contrib: 0.2.0~bpo60+1; wheezy/contrib: 0.2.2; wheezy-backports/contrib: 0.4.1~bpo70+1; sid/contrib: 0.4.1; jessie/contrib: 0.4.1 |
| 17:59.34 | SynrG | malinus: great. seems you added non-free but not contrib |
| 18:00.13 | SynrG | malinus: if you add non-free you almost always also want to add contrib |
| 18:00.52 | SynrG | malinus: fix your sources.list, apt-get update, and try the install again |
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| 18:03.33 | malinus | SynrG, well dang. This is what I get for not reading the wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList). thanks a lot! |
| 18:04.07 | malinus | SynrG, one last thing, which packaged should I install? All of them? Or just the -driver? |
| 18:04.09 | resixian | EdePopede: what about them? |
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| 18:04.56 | EdePopede | resixian: actually i got a (little as usual) problem with recode. and this is NOT GNU (though the --version says this) |
| 18:05.05 | EdePopede | so what to do in such a case? |
| 18:05.07 | SynrG | malinus: if you install the -driver package as per the wiki instructions, it brings in the recommends as well by default |
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| 18:05.28 | SynrG | the only reason i asked you to try the deps individually was to get info out of apt about what it found objectionable |
| 18:05.44 | malinus | yeah, got it. Thanks |
| 18:05.47 | SynrG | stupid me, i didn't see the alternatives package at the top of the list .. |
| 18:05.55 | SynrG | or else i'd have asked you to try that hours ago |
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| 18:06.02 | SynrG | must've been napping |
| 18:06.12 | malinus | nah I'm still the stupid one here :P |
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| 18:07.44 | SynrG | well, let's not get into a self-denigration war. let's just say ... i own my failure to be observant today :) |
| 18:08.08 | malinus | hehe |
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| 18:16.16 | ompaul | SynrG: what was that? I wasn't paying attention. :-) |
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| 18:16.22 | ompaul | gets his hat and coat |
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| 18:17.29 | SynrG | ompaul: *hours* ago, malinus showed a paste with fglrx-driver install failing. my eyes skidded right over the first dep, which was failing due to contrib missing from sources.list :p so i failed to ask him to try to install it separately |
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| 18:17.54 | ompaul | SynrG: that might be ooch, I guess it was |
| 18:18.09 | SynrG | i claim the Mr. Unobservant award today |
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| 18:18.50 | ompaul | SynrG: your claim has been overlooked by the unobservant council, it must be yours |
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| 18:19.39 | SynrG | ;) |
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| 18:21.14 | tree123 | hi I get this error when i try ot copy on usb device from system and i dont know why usb is mounted as 4E71-AB11. Error while copying to "4E71-AB11" the destination is read only plse help me .... |
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| 18:22.53 | SynrG | it's mounted as that because it has no label |
| 18:22.54 | tree123 | hi I get this error when i try ot copy on usb device from system and i dont know why usb is mounted as 4E71-AB11. Error while copying to "4E71-AB11" the destination is read only plse help me .... |
| 18:23.26 | SynrG | lay off the up-arrow, eh? |
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| 18:23.57 | SynrG | does it have a physical write-protect switch? |
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| 18:25.31 | tree123 | No it doesnot |
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| 18:26.49 | tree123 | hi I get this error when i try ot copy on usb device from system and i dont know why usb is mounted as 4E71-AB11. Error while copying to "4E71-AB11" the destination is read only plse help me .... |
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| 18:27.31 | SynrG | tree123: what did i say earlier about repeating yourself? |
| 18:27.33 | SynrG | cut it out |
| 18:27.40 | ompaul | tree123: paste in http://paste.debian.net the output of the command at the end of this - run as root - fdisk -l |
| 18:30.04 | tree123 | ompaul: i did |
| 18:30.23 | ompaul | it might be good if you told me the link |
| 18:31.15 | ompaul | tree123: thank you now the following command please in the same place and paste the link here - mount |
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| 18:32.38 | ompaul | tree123: I'm afk for 2 minutes |
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| 18:33.21 | tree123 | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/120587/ |
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| 18:35.03 | SynrG | ompaul: how about the output from: dmesg | grep sdb |
| 18:35.16 | SynrG | er, tree123, i mean |
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| 18:36.16 | ompaul | tree123: did you set it to automount in /etc/fstab by any chance? |
| 18:36.44 | tree123 | no i dont think so |
| 18:36.55 | ompaul | no and I don't think so are not the same thing ;-) |
| 18:37.08 | tree123 | ompaul: and there is no any line with media or usb in fstab |
| 18:37.10 | ompaul | tree123: do this cat /etc/fstab in the usual location |
| 18:37.20 | ompaul | fine so it is not there |
| 18:37.31 | ompaul | how did you mount it - just plug it in and it came up like this? |
| 18:37.44 | shay_shay | hallo |
| 18:37.45 | tree123 | yea |
| 18:37.46 | resixian | tree123: were you logged in as a different user when you plugged it in? |
| 18:37.59 | tree123 | no resixian |
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| 18:38.16 | tree123 | same is that case when i am plugging my mobile in the system |
| 18:38.42 | tree123 | ompaul: yea by default it is like this |
| 18:39.05 | tree123 | I am not able to write to usb device |
| 18:39.11 | ompaul | tree123: su - resixian and use the password |
| 18:39.28 | resixian | ompaul: :S |
| 18:39.32 | ompaul | damn it |
| 18:39.35 | resixian | lol |
| 18:39.53 | resixian | actually laughed out loud.. |
| 18:39.58 | ompaul | I know I drove a long way today - didn't think it was that far |
| 18:40.01 | shay_shay | i was mostly confused |
| 18:40.13 | tree123 | what is that :/ |
| 18:40.23 | ompaul | tree123: safe to ignore that is what that is |
| 18:40.41 | shay_shay | tree123: youre supposed to login as resixian xD |
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| 18:40.59 | ompaul | shay_shay: which is not the case |
| 18:41.05 | ompaul | tree123: you can ignore that |
| 18:41.27 | resixian | tree123: did you ever post 'dmseg | greb -C2 sdb' output? |
| 18:41.39 | ompaul | tree123: try sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 /media/4E71-AB11 |
| 18:41.41 | shay_shay | s/greb/grep |
| 18:41.53 | resixian | oh jeez... it's contagious |
| 18:42.10 | ompaul | resixian: shh more of them will catch on or catch it ... |
| 18:42.19 | resixian | ompaul: haha |
| 18:42.33 | shay_shay | i'm loling right now. |
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| 18:43.20 | resixian | ompaul: you don't need the device (or path) in your remount command do you? |
| 18:43.47 | tree123 | ompaul: that does not work |
| 18:44.00 | resixian | tree123: what does it do/say? |
| 18:44.36 | ompaul | resixian: true but it should work given his layout |
| 18:44.36 | tree123 | no it remounts but the sam problem pop ups destination is read only |
| 18:44.48 | ompaul | tree123: did you do that as root ? |
| 18:44.55 | resixian | ompaul: yes, I was just being pedantic. sorry |
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| 18:45.18 | SynrG | which is why it would be really nice to see that dmesg output ... |
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| 18:45.21 | ompaul | resixian: hey, that's my job being pedantic but seems today I'm the confused |
| 18:45.29 | resixian | :D |
| 18:45.40 | tree123 | ompaul: yea |
| 18:45.46 | ompaul | tree123: please paste the dmseg | greb -C2 sdb |
| 18:45.52 | SynrG | requested 10 minutes ago ... though given the hilarity that has ensued ... |
| 18:45.56 | SynrG | ompaul: oh no, not again! |
| 18:46.04 | SynrG | s/greb/grep/ ;) |
| 18:46.09 | ompaul | affffffff |
| 18:46.12 | ompaul | tree123: please paste the dmseg | grep -C2 sdb |
| 18:46.18 | ompaul | tree123: that version |
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| 18:46.41 | ompaul | is going to bed .... [ this line was edited more than once ] |
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| 18:47.03 | resixian | lmfo |
| 18:47.07 | resixian | lmfao |
| 18:47.13 | resixian | roflmao |
| 18:47.18 | resixian | crying |
| 18:47.39 | tree123 | ompaul : that gives a large thing :/ |
| 18:47.56 | resixian | tree123: thats what we want |
| 18:48.02 | ompaul | tree123: and you pasted it didn't you and you told us the link didn't you |
| 18:48.02 | resixian | you can pipe it to a file |
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| 18:48.17 | ompaul | grabs unobserver grade 2 flag |
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| 18:48.36 | tree123 | http://paste.debian.net/120590/ |
| 18:49.06 | shay_shay | or pipe it to pastebinit |
| 18:49.32 | ompaul | tree123: looks like the disk is somewhat shot - might recover after a format |
| 18:50.02 | tree123 | I dont think so same was the case with my phone :/ |
| 18:50.18 | shay_shay | your phone? |
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| 18:50.33 | resixian | tree123: how are these connected to your computer? |
| 18:50.34 | tree123 | ompaul: I see the same when I connect my phone to the computer |
| 18:50.39 | resixian | usb hub? |
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| 18:50.53 | tree123 | via usb |
| 18:50.58 | tree123 | yo |
| 18:51.08 | shay_shay | ok well the phone might be r/o for a different reason right? |
| 18:51.22 | resixian | is that 'yo' or 'no' tree123 ? |
| 18:51.31 | shay_shay | lol |
| 18:51.53 | resixian | have you another pc that can read that USB drive? |
| 18:52.01 | resixian | because it looks fscked to me |
| 18:52.03 | tree123 | yo |
| 18:52.14 | resixian | or you have it plugged into a broken usb hub |
| 18:52.17 | shay_shay | xD |
| 18:52.20 | tree123 | yea windows read it |
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| 18:52.39 | shay_shay | windows says there is a probem with it surely? windows says that about everything |
| 18:52.39 | ompaul | tree123: how big is it? |
| 18:53.02 | ompaul | shay_shay: it's a bit crap at dying when it should (about 1990 to be precise) |
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| 18:53.15 | tree123 | :/ |
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| 18:53.32 | lelo | anyone experienced with sharelatex installation? |
| 18:53.33 | ompaul | tree123: how big is it |
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| 18:54.16 | ompaul | lelo: ask your real question OF the channel framed - using debian vN program X doing Y expected Z what am I missing style |
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| 18:55.00 | malinus | could someone help me out, what do I change to allow my non-local terminal-user to launch X locally? (i.e. ssh into the computer and "DISPLAY=:0 startx"). I think it has something to do with some dkpg settings, but I simply can't find it :(. |
| 18:55.30 | malinus | currently I get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.". Even though the same user can launch X locally |
| 18:55.46 | shay_shay | malinus: its in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 18:55.47 | lelo | ompaul: well, I've installed sharelatex on a debian server here at our university, but when it runs the web interface wont run and gives no errors in the logs.. |
| 18:56.36 | ompaul | lelo: am I the channel? I know nothing of that, what version of debian - you say runs ... it is a web application which web server |
| 18:57.00 | malinus | shay_shay, which setting? |
| 18:57.05 | ompaul | lelo: the more info you front load the better the result - a bit like good research :_) |
| 18:57.08 | ompaul | :-) |
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| 18:57.35 | SynrG | malinus: it's the difference between running it from a virtual console and not |
| 18:57.35 | shay_shay | malinus: "X11Forwarding Yes" is the one you want but I recommend you only enable it for the users or groups or hosts that will need it |
| 18:57.50 | lelo | ompaul: sure, but I dont understand it either... the more you understand, the better the questions |
| 18:57.54 | malinus | shay_shay, no that's not what I'm interested in. I don't want to forward X |
| 18:57.55 | lelo | ompaul: hah! =) |
| 18:58.03 | SynrG | malinus: by default, non-local users are not permitted ... |
| 18:58.21 | malinus | SynrG, exactly. and I think I've read years ago that it can be changed somewhere with dkpg. But I can't find anything! |
| 18:58.22 | shay_shay | you just want to startx remotely? |
| 18:58.34 | malinus | yes (with DISPLAY=:0) |
| 18:58.35 | SynrG | malinus: something like /etc/X11/xserverrc ... er ... let me actually look it up :) |
| 18:58.40 | SynrG | malinus: nothing to do with dpkg |
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| 18:58.53 | ompaul | lelo: let me see if I can get you asking a great question :-) I'll try to get you there as root uname -r on the machine |
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| 18:59.24 | lelo | ompaul: 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 18:59.24 | ompaul | ,v sharelatex |
| 18:59.25 | judd | No package named 'sharelatex' was found in i386. |
| 18:59.37 | ompaul | lelo: where do you get sharelatex from? |
| 18:59.50 | lelo | ompaul: sharelatex'sgithub |
| 18:59.52 | lelo | ompaul: sharelatex's github |
| 19:00.01 | lelo | https://github.com/sharelatex/sharelatex/wiki/Production-Installation-Instructions |
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| 19:00.26 | ompaul | lelo: ok so we are not going to be much use to you with that, however you do have a functioning web server? |
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| 19:01.00 | lelo | ompaul: yes, but it does not use the web server for the app, it runs with nodejs/redis on port 3000 |
| 19:01.21 | SynrG | malinus: umm, /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config i think |
| 19:01.40 | SynrG | malinus: how about: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 19:01.49 | SynrG | malinus: since the file contains that advice :) |
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| 19:02.10 | ompaul | lelo: you didn't just do dpkg -i packagename.goes.here.deb ? |
| 19:02.15 | SynrG | malinus: and yes, smarty-pants, dpkg does have a question for this and i forgot all about it :) |
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| 19:02.26 | malinus | SynrG, I knew it ;P |
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| 19:02.39 | malinus | (and thanks a bunch) |
| 19:02.42 | SynrG | np |
| 19:02.47 | lelo | ompaul: nope... I followed the instructions on the site and installed it via git clone |
| 19:02.53 | lelo | ompaul: then npm install and grunt install |
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| 19:03.54 | SynrG | malinus: and just to prove i'm not getting senile, the other tidbit i had confused with this one is /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc (to drop -notcp to allow nonlocal X clients without ssh forwarding :) |
| 19:04.14 | SynrG | but that's a different problem for a different time |
| 19:04.28 | ompaul | lelo: it looks to me like you need to find their community - they have a .deb that does it all for you on a ubuntu box - http://search.mibbit.com/networks/dalnet/%23sharelatex is where they hang out - I'd have to install it to debug and have no use for it |
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| 19:04.41 | SynrG | er, -nolisten tcp, i mean |
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| 19:04.59 | ompaul | lelo: because it is a problem with their stuff not debian as far as we know |
| 19:05.17 | lelo | ompaul: sure... thanks anyway |
| 19:05.33 | lelo | Ill connect on dalnet :) |
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| 19:05.36 | malinus | SynrG, hopefully not :) |
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| 19:10.01 | neglesaks | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:10.37 | TJ- | neglesaks: It's used as the base for user file-system mountpoints |
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| 19:11.11 | neglesaks | right... im trying to recall where the devices listed by UUID would be found, but im being forgetful.. |
| 19:11.24 | SynrG | FHS 2.3 ftw |
| 19:12.02 | SynrG | specifically, "mount points for removable media" |
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| 19:12.40 | TJ- | neglesaks: udev will create sym-links in "/dev/disk/by-uuid/" |
| 19:12.44 | malinus | SynrG, hope you won't mind too much I ask you directly. Now even though I installed fglrx (and all its spawn), I get the "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@2:0:1) found \n FATAL: Module fglrx not found". And obviously the X crashes (full log: http://paste.debian.net/120596/) |
| 19:13.04 | neglesaks | right, thats the one. thanks TJ! |
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| 19:15.47 | SynrG | malinus: any errors when the dkms was built? you rembmered to install headers for your kernel? |
| 19:16.09 | SynrG | oh wait, not sure if fglrx uses that |
| 19:16.44 | malinus | SynrG, not as far as I remember (I'm 82% sure I would notice). |
| 19:16.57 | SynrG | that's oddly ... precise ;) |
| 19:17.13 | SynrG | umm. you rebooted after all this? |
| 19:17.44 | malinus | let me do another reboot, just to be sure |
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| 19:19.03 | malinus | SynrG, nope, wasn't it. |
| 19:19.15 | SynrG | any fglrx module in lsmod? |
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| 19:20.33 | malinus | SynrG, nope. So I guess I need to load it manually? |
| 19:20.50 | SynrG | no. it will probably fail anyway, if you try |
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| 19:22.50 | SynrG | malinus: did you generate an xorg.conf with aticonfig with this or so? |
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| 19:34.02 | hgghjgf | Can I install packages into an existing installation environment? I mean to add the full gnupg to a running expert install menu from the dvd. Not to the target |
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| 19:34.28 | hgghjgf | I dont care for permanence, one off is ok |
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| 19:35.28 | jhutchins | hgghjgf: Good grief, why? |
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| 19:36.22 | SynrG | you understand the difference between the extremely minimal installer environment and a full system? you don't normally install anything in the installer environment. |
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| 19:36.46 | hgghjgf | Thats a long and embarassing story. But I want to verify a file against a key with an old and offline gpg and an old and offline key stored on cd/dvd |
| 19:36.48 | SynrG | yes, it's modular, but that's only for components of the installer, not arbitrary packages. |
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| 19:37.13 | SynrG | what does the installer have to do with this? |
| 19:37.24 | SturmFlut | Does anyboady here run Ubuntu for ARM64 on an actual ARM64 machine? |
| 19:37.28 | SynrG | sounds like you're looking for a live image, not an installer image |
| 19:37.34 | SynrG | !ubuntuirc SturmFlut |
| 19:37.35 | dpkg | SturmFlut: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 19:38.08 | SturmFlut | SynrG: Err, sorry, copy-paste-error. Should have said "Debian" |
| 19:38.20 | hgghjgf | so I tried it the stupid way, copying the package from the pool directory to /root, then have no dpkg for unpacking. then the vanilla tar.gz from the pool isnt understood by tar |
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| 19:39.07 | hgghjgf | why I want to do that on the installer? because its on a read only medium and quite old |
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| 19:39.18 | SynrG | !anybody |
| 19:39.18 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 19:39.25 | hgghjgf | I dont want to download a new iso |
| 19:40.33 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: I could not understand well what you said. First try to explain what you want to achieve, before saying how you are trying to do it. |
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| 19:41.48 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: but what you weant to do seems to me to need a full LiveCD environment. I usually use GRML for that. |
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| 19:42.42 | hgghjgf | Ok, I want to verify a new downloaded image of another distro against a gpg key that is stored on a cd. I do not want to verify from my installed debian desktop, as I want a more propably untainted gpg. Like for example using the installer cd for that, since that is read only and older. |
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| 19:43.04 | SynrG | SturmFlut: you've seen https://wiki.debian.org/Arm64Port ? apparently *somebody* runs it ... what's your real question, though? |
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| 19:43.50 | jhutchins | Would there be any reason to prefer ext3 over ext4 or vice-versa for a 40G /var/lib/pgsql volume? |
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| 19:44.11 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: just use a liveCD. |
| 19:44.21 | Walex2 | jhutchins: 'ext4' for sure. |
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| 19:44.40 | Walex2 | jhutchins: 'ext3' has so many crazy odd behaviours. |
| 19:44.41 | hgghjgf | I dont have a livecd and do not want to download a new livecd |
| 19:45.00 | hgghjgf | isnt it somehow possible in the limited installer environment? |
| 19:45.00 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: what have you got apart from the installer? |
| 19:45.01 | SynrG | "overly constrained problem" |
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| 19:45.14 | SynrG | all things are possible. but we don't have all day |
| 19:45.14 | hgghjgf | thats the only thing |
| 19:45.38 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: well, you have the installed system, and the installer CD you installed it from |
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| 19:46.14 | hgghjgf | I could propably install from the installer a temporary debian, where I could verify the things oO. But thats a lot of overhead |
| 19:46.32 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: and how much are you willing to download in MB if not a full liveCD? |
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| 19:47.01 | SturmFlut | SynrG: I am currently doing a bit of market research for my employer and would like to talk to people already running ARM64. Like which boards by which manufacturers are used, performance comparisons, stability issues etc. I have some offers for production hardware by different manufacturers, not just development boards, and the question is if we buy some. |
| 19:47.03 | hgghjgf | Download is not constrained, more that I dont want any recently created image |
| 19:47.03 | SynrG | you know 'full livecd' could just be console-only, right? it doesn't have to be huge. |
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| 19:47.22 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: then download an old LiveCD! |
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| 19:47.45 | hgghjgf | But how can one be sure that they are actually old? |
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| 19:48.15 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: you are starting to come across as a "misunderstood genius" :-) |
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| 19:48.48 | SynrG | push it downstairs. if it fractures a hip, it's old. |
| 19:49.30 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: you seem to have some concerns about the trustworthiness of recent software. How recent? |
| 19:49.35 | malinus | SynrG, it makes no sense. I've tried all kind of stuff now. I've tried doing aticonfig --init (which I think I've already did). But not much luck. I really have no idea how to make this work :/. |
| 19:49.51 | SynrG | malinus: i'm sorry. i'm no expert with fglrx |
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| 19:50.09 | SynrG | from the outset, i didn't understand why the free radeon driver + non-free firmware didn't work for you ... |
| 19:50.16 | SynrG | that *should* have worked for that model of card |
| 19:50.31 | Walex2 | malinus: today you are LUCKY! |
| 19:50.55 | hgghjgf | I do not want to download any new thing if it has an older date or not. I define old by having it offline since some time. I want to use that installer disc, which is my oldest discburned distro installer combined with the gpg keystore on another offline disc, as a core root of trust. |
| 19:51.54 | malinus | SynrG, well thanks anyway |
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| 19:51.59 | malinus | I guess I am lucky :) |
| 19:51.59 | hgghjgf | I will propably really install a temporary debian from it, just to check that^^ |
| 19:52.05 | Walex2 | malinus: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/14-one.html#140317 |
| 19:52.28 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: that is a "misunderstood genius" logic |
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| 19:53.08 | malinus | Walex2, is that for me? |
| 19:53.21 | Walex2 | malinus: yes, might help |
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| 19:53.57 | Walex2 | malinus: also perhaps (but it is a bit old) http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/13-two.html#131226 |
| 19:54.09 | hgghjgf | Walex2: Is that some insider definition of a specific class of problems? |
| 19:54.40 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: not sure what you mean with that :-) |
| 19:55.07 | hgghjgf | Walex2: I dont either |
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| 19:55.36 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: by "misunderstood genius" I sort of mean that you may think that your logic is very clever and secure, but perhaps it is not :-) |
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| 19:55.55 | hgghjgf | Thats what I wanted to know |
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| 19:58.06 | hgghjgf | Walex2: For that case it makes actually sense as I want to verify a distro installer that was stored offline too but lying around openly, its not downloaded either. |
| 19:58.35 | hgghjgf | Walex2: ...in a sense not recently downloaded |
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| 19:59.56 | hgghjgf | I do not intend to ever put, what I want to verify, to the internet, no updates |
| 20:00.44 | hgghjgf | See it more as a strange forensic type experiment. |
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| 20:01.43 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: but it makes no sense to avoid using recent versions of 'md5' or 'gpg'... |
| 20:02.02 | hgghjgf | Walex2: why? |
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| 20:02.30 | SynrG | can we, uh ... |
| 20:02.32 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: because they just do a mathematical job that is very easy to verify |
| 20:02.49 | SynrG | i think we answered this already. can't do it. use a live image. use an *old* friggen live image |
| 20:02.56 | SynrG | back to support questions? |
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| 20:03.31 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: also anyhow usually most installers have a self-verification step at least as to to the checksum. You verify the checksum, then verifying the authenticity of the checksum is different issue. |
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| 20:04.29 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: you seem to be treating computing the checksum and then verifying its signature as one problem, when they are quite separate issue with different security implications. |
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| 20:04.41 | hgghjgf | K, gotta do the song of whales now. It is about not trusting newer software from the net. About trusting that other distro installer is a whole nother thing. I just want to make sure that that thing hasnt been modified by a housemate |
| 20:04.44 | Walex2 | hgghjgf: the key security issues are the checksum and the signature. |
| 20:04.58 | atomic_ | where do i find my network configuration with jessie and systemd? |
| 20:05.19 | Walex2 | atomic_: #Debian-next on IRC.Debian.org |
| 20:05.48 | hgghjgf | atomic_: its "ip" as command now as I remember |
| 20:06.02 | DanDare | irc.debian.org is an alias to EFNET network? |
| 20:06.21 | SynrG | no, to the OFTC network |
| 20:06.28 | DanDare | Oh, ok, thanks |
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| 20:26.55 | JuanDaugherty | yello |
| 20:27.04 | bl4ckdu5t | I have this paste from my last apt-get install http://paste.debian.net/120609/ |
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| 20:27.27 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm tired of those packages with errors. Don't know how to fix 'em |
| 20:27.33 | bl4ckdu5t | any help |
| 20:27.34 | arcke | i am trying to build whatsapp-purple from a cloned https://github.com/davidgfnet/whatsapp-purple, i downloaded the pidgin source package and built it, i include libpurple for make through the PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable, now running make gives me an error while building whatsapp-purple --- /home/arcke/src/pidgin-2.10.7/libpurple/libpurple.la: file not recognized: File format not recognized |
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| 20:29.23 | arcke | no idea why this happens |
| 20:30.32 | JuanDaugherty | wonders if there's a general heuristic for the snagged 32 bit app (mathematic) in wheezy 64 |
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| 20:30.58 | JuanDaugherty | glib/gthread being the current snag point |
| 20:32.25 | JuanDaugherty | looks like i wiped multiarch and didn restore |
| 20:32.59 | JuanDaugherty | nope |
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| 20:33.33 | JuanDaugherty | *mathematica |
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| 20:36.26 | arcke | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:38.47 | lanodan | I was installing debian on my laptop (an i386) and it ask to insert the "Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 20140712-13:01" |
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| 20:39.40 | JuanDaugherty | u messed up |
| 20:42.09 | lanodan | I've installed it like my PC (64bits so not the same CD) |
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| 20:50.12 | Walex2 | icedp: 'man equiv' |
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| 20:51.00 | Walex2 | icedp: as to that you should put in "provides" that depends on what your out-of-package stuff actually provides |
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| 20:52.26 | icedp | Walex2: yes, I tried to use equiv, I put to provides "libc6-amd64" and made the dummy package of version 2.9 (libc6-amd64 >= 2.9 is what I need). But apt still says deps are broken |
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| 20:53.05 | Walex2 | icedp: ask 'apt-cache' why |
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| 20:53.42 | Walex2 | icedp: also do you need libc6-amd64' or 'libc6:amd64'? |
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| 20:54.44 | Walex2 | icedp: anyhow I usually use 'aptitude' to figure out dependency issues, because it lists them for each package in a very convenient folding-editor style format |
| 20:55.42 | icedp | Package fglrx version 2:14.100-0ubuntu1 has an unmet dep: |
| 20:55.43 | icedp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:56.33 | meLon | Doe devices exist that can be hooked up (USB 3.0/Thunderbolt) to provide an 'external' GPU? The point would be to increase performance, not have another display adapter. |
| 20:57.42 | Walex2 | icedp: you are trying to do soemthing very unholy and you don't have the knowledge to handle it. |
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| 20:59.04 | Walex2 | icedp: if you want to do unholy, use something more compatible with Debian 7/Wheezy than Ubuntu 14. Like SteamOS. |
| 20:59.54 | Walex2 | icedp: consider using something like this http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/14-one.html#140317 to build your FrankenDebian |
| 21:00.02 | Nectur | has anyone tried kwin on xfce? |
| 21:00.45 | Walex2 | Nectur: why bother? Anyhow it ought to "just work". But note that starting KWin in effect starts nearly all of KDE. |
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| 21:04.43 | Nectur | Walex2: what if most of KDE is not installed |
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| 21:04.52 | icedp | Walex2: I agree with your claims but how do I learn to make something unholy if not by trying) maybe I really should use something like SteamOS because amd drivers always get the system broken every year or so |
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| 21:10.45 | Walex2 | Nectur: then if most of the KDE infrastructure is not installed then KWin won't work,. |
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| 21:11.35 | Walex2 | icedp: there is a difference between suicidal unholy (mixing vastly different releases of Debian and Ubuntu) and less suicidal unholy. |
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| 21:12.27 | Walex2 | icedp: "less suicidal unholy" like mixing Debian with bits of SteamOS works better because SteamOS currently is *closely* based on 7/Wheezy. |
| 21:14.15 | Walex2 | icedp: Another option would be to install 'fglrx' from the AMD provided binary. This also requires some customisation work, e.g. as described here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/13-two.html#131226 |
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| 21:15.10 | Walex2 | icedp: but I have discovered that recent versions (like those in SteamOS) of Xorg with recent versions of MesaGL are as good or better than 'fglrx' even on pretty recent AMD cards, so I recommend those. |
| 21:15.12 | icedp | Walex2: no no, but I'm not mixing.. using Ubuntu atm, just asking question here about dummy-faking a package. I had installed binary AMD... |
| 21:15.35 | Walex2 | icedp: this is not #Ubuntu. |
| 21:15.46 | icedp | Walex2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451918/libc6-amd64-dependency-problem/514641#514641 this is what I've done. everything works except the apt complaining |
| 21:15.53 | teraflops | ^ |
| 21:16.07 | Walex2 | icedp: ask in #Ubuntu for how to build 'equiv' packages for Ubuntu. |
| 21:16.22 | Walex2 | icedp: Ubuntu questions will not be answered here. |
| 21:16.23 | icedp | hhmm.. I though it would be exactly the same ) |
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| 21:16.59 | Walex2 | icedp: but you may be interested in this: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/14-one.html#140315 |
| 21:17.48 | lanodan | It worked with the multiarch CD |
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| 21:18.14 | Walex2 | icedp: actually this is better: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/14-two.html#140711 |
| 21:18.23 | agoracrypt | close |
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| 21:22.49 | icedp | Walex2: thanks for checklist, but I'm using exactly that, 3.13 (trusty) kernel with prop fglrx (which caused the deps problem) |
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| 21:25.16 | Walex2 | again, this is not the right channel. Anyhow you don't need 'fglrx' with Ubuntu 14. |
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| 21:26.57 | icedp | Walex2: why is that? |
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| 21:27.24 | Walex2 | icedp: this is not the right channel. Read http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/14-two.html#140711 |
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| 21:29.37 | icedp | Walex2: oh so he uses 'radeon' driver. didn't catch it when reading the first time. thanks |
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| 22:22.18 | Megaf_ | Hi all. So, I'm running this process that is not behaving well and it got all CPU to itself, now my box wont respond to SSH nor HTTP request or anything else. Whats the best solution? Just wait till the process finishes or hard reset it? |
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| 22:26.44 | dagnabit | Hello all. Debian newbie here. I'm taking over work on a website that is being hosted on a few different virtual machines via VMware |
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| 22:27.21 | dagnabit | Is anyone active right now that I can ask some questions to? |
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| 22:27.54 | dagnabit | 1386 users idling? |
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| 22:28.17 | teraflops | dagnabit: just ask |
| 22:28.30 | dagnabit | Hi teraflops |
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| 22:28.50 | dagnabit | So the guy that was working on this system before was a unix guru |
| 22:29.02 | dagnabit | He wrote a bash script to push his local testing folder to the live site |
| 22:29.26 | dagnabit | I have access to the virtual machine console and have been trying to set up proftpd |
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| 22:29.29 | dagnabit | without success |
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| 22:30.26 | dagnabit | He has been working directly in /usr/local/apache2/htdocs |
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| 22:30.30 | dagnabit | That's where all the working files are located |
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| 22:30.55 | dagnabit | I checked the httpd.conf file and he has that set to the root directory but the user and group are still set to daemon |
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| 22:31.26 | Megaf_ | dagnabit: Freenode is having a hard time now |
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| 22:31.50 | dagnabit | seems like it lol |
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| 22:32.25 | dagnabit | Anyway, I've been trying to get FTP access for like 4 hours now without success |
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| 22:32.31 | dagnabit | can anyone help me? |
| 22:32.39 | dagnabit | I followed this tutorial: http://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Setup_FTP_Server_under_Debian#Installation_of_the_required_proftpd_Package |
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