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| 00:04.24 | Somelauw_ | WizardGed: lspci displays 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 73) |
| 00:04.37 | Somelauw_ | i got the first one by googling for specs |
| 00:05.02 | WizardGed | i just need to know your kernel version |
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| 00:05.25 | WizardGed | to see how likely it is it is using the correct driver |
| 00:05.42 | Somelauw_ | 3.11-2-amd64 |
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| 00:07.29 | WizardGed | hmm, i see you like to live dangerously. that looks like it might not have the correct driver yet |
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| 00:08.22 | WizardGed | there was an update to that driver to fix issues like you're having. ill see which kernel version it was put in. |
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| 00:08.43 | Somelauw | ok, thanks |
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| 00:09.14 | WizardGed | no worries you may just have to install a newer kernel is all |
| 00:10.14 | Somelauw | ok, thanks |
| 00:11.40 | WizardGed | yep 3.13 has the driver update for sure according to iwlwifi website |
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| 00:14.06 | WizardGed | Somelauw: see https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel |
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| 00:14.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
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| 00:14.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | i need some helps.. |
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| 00:15.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/WUcA |
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| 00:15.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | this is the info i get when i check my ssl keys is that ok? i dont see any sha-1 reference in there |
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| 00:17.22 | WizardGed | looks like mine, and there shouldn't be any refrence of sha-1 |
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| 00:18.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok. i took sha1 and md5 out of my openssl config |
| 00:18.15 | WizardGed | sha-1 encryption type things you should see is communication protocols |
| 00:18.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | so it shouldnt be making those |
| 00:18.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok? |
| 00:19.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am trying to make sure my webpage is secured |
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| 00:20.47 | WizardGed | see http://www.networking4all.com/en/support/tools/site+check/ and https://www.scanmyserver.com/ |
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| 00:21.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 00:24.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok the signature alg. is sha1+rsa is that ok? |
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| 00:26.47 | WizardGed | depends on length of rsa |
| 00:27.00 | WizardGed | but otherwise sounds good |
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| 00:28.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | 2048 bit |
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| 00:30.29 | WizardGed | yeah that's pretty much standard, sounds good to me |
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| 00:31.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok aswesome |
| 00:31.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | thanks |
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| 00:34.41 | justanotheruser | hey, when I boot debian tells me it can't find my volume groups. I am on a livecd and I decrypted the volume and ran the command "sudo /sbin/vgchange -a y" which gave me the output "2 logical volume(s) in volume group "deb_crypt_group" now active" |
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| 00:34.46 | justanotheruser | how do I get them to be found on boot? |
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| 00:36.23 | kevlarman | so i just moved my debian install to a new motherboard, i need help figuring out if the network adapter is bad or if i've screwed up the configuration software |
| 00:36.33 | kevlarman | it was working on the old motherboard |
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| 00:37.10 | kevlarman | also i have no idea why i appended 'software' to that sentence for no apparent reason |
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| 00:38.48 | kevlarman | lspci does list the network adapter, but eth0 doesn't exist |
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| 00:49.05 | chomwitt | whats the default desktop in testing images? |
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| 00:56.41 | hooligan321 | sigh why do people allways do this stuff :(.. J |
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| 00:57.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | whereis dpkg |
| 00:58.02 | hooligan321 | is there no way to regulate the way apps start up |
| 00:58.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | i needn the nvidia one liner |
| 00:58.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | :(( |
| 00:58.16 | hooligan321 | instead of running nilly willy |
| 00:58.42 | slurpymcdurpy | Xfce is default desktop in testing. |
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| 01:04.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | mmm mmm mmm |
| 01:04.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | mmm |
| 01:04.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | not even a reboot woot ty devs you should pet your self on the back and eat some steak for me! |
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| 01:05.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | or a nice salad if you are a veggie eater. |
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| 01:16.55 | hooligan321 | that is a right old pain ... if any one else has trouble getting there apps to start up automatically in a orderly fasion beyond just being launched in alphabetical order.. so they dont all run into each other.. the trick I found that works is.. /bin/app1 & sleep 5 & /bin/app2 & sleep 1 & /bin/app3 & wait ... sleep 5 would be for something like jackd because if you launch a jack client while |
| 01:16.55 | hooligan321 | jack is busy starting its breaks stuff .. but thanks for help on that any way ;/ |
| 01:17.47 | kevlarman | hooligan321: depending on your desktop there's a saner way to do that |
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| 01:18.25 | hooligan321 | hey.. i am using xfce and slim and the login manager |
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| 01:19.19 | hooligan321 | and slim for the login manager^ |
| 01:19.48 | hooligan321 | slim has its own run command |
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| 01:20.09 | hooligan321 | but it runs as root |
| 01:20.20 | hooligan321 | and if you run as some one else its like gui apps dont work properly |
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| 01:22.38 | kevlarman | you can put it in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ if you want it to start for all users |
| 01:22.57 | kevlarman | probably slightly before xfce4-session |
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| 01:23.48 | kevlarman | there should be a saner per user way but i'm currently blanking on it |
| 01:24.53 | hooligan321 | exactly what i am left thinking there must be a way to launch apps and wait but not wait till the completed till the are actually in a running state |
| 01:25.05 | hooligan321 | i bet if you could watch ps in realtime you would see its flags change |
| 01:25.11 | hooligan321 | from launching to running |
| 01:25.38 | hooligan321 | theyy^ |
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| 01:29.50 | kevlarman | so can anyone help me figure out why eth0 doesn't exist? the kernel module appears to be loaded (the network adapter is intel 82579LM, lspci finds e1000e), i'm having trouble figuring out if it's a configuration issue or a dead NIC |
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| 01:31.11 | OldParr | i turned off the firewall with the command ufw, i disabled my ISP firewall, I took off the wireless router and connected it directly, but amule allways complains it is under firewall |
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| 01:32.19 | resixian | i am trying to move all users/groups/passwords from an old 32bit machine to a new 64bit by copying passwd*, group* gshadow. but when i try to login the password is always rejected |
| 01:32.53 | resixian | so i updted the users password (as root) and now as soon as i press enter after the pw it returns to the login screen |
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| 01:39.45 | takeyourhatoff | How can I delete a schroot without a livecd? |
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| 01:46.38 | hooligan321 | kevlarman dual ethernet ports? |
| 01:47.15 | hooligan321 | ifconfig -a |
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| 01:48.00 | hooligan321 | wifi card might also have eth1 |
| 01:48.05 | kevlarman | hooligan321: nope |
| 01:48.07 | hooligan321 | eth0 even |
| 01:48.09 | kevlarman | it's wired |
| 01:48.18 | RedDeath | Back |
| 01:49.14 | kevlarman | hooligan321: i would be extremely suprised and more than a little upset if i found out my lga2011 motherboard had a wifi card on it |
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| 01:51.16 | hooligan321 | fair enough if its not because of dual ethernet ports or that then its probably sumthing inside /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:51.30 | RedDeath | Quagmire: You must be this beautiful to ride the Quagmire. |
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| 01:59.35 | themill | takeyourhatoff: what sort of schroot is it? (directory, tarball, lvm, ...) |
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| 02:08.38 | hooligan321 | resixian if you can open the files on the 64bit system try and resave them and overrite the old ones with the newly saved versions i suspect you will run into problems I know this from programming qbasic believe it or not but certain file io operations are not portable from one machine to another so your files are effectively contaiminated as far as the 64bit machine is concerened |
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| 03:05.31 | dvs | Idoru? |
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| 03:06.27 | holycow | hi guys |
| 03:06.51 | Guest24298 | i am trying to find a debian 6.0.7 netinstall cd. anyone know if that is available in the archives anywhere? |
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| 03:35.45 | archdaemon | Hey guys: weird issue. I just installed a debian domU (both dom0 and domU are wheezy), and sometimes when I run various aptitude commands, like update or install, it sits doing seemingly nothing for about 5 minutes before finishing |
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| 03:36.49 | archdaemon | apt-get, on the other hand, doesn't have this issue |
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| 03:38.57 | archdaemon | aptitude does eventually finish successfully, but the 5 minute hang is pretty annoying |
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| 03:40.53 | archdaemon | usually, the message that aptitude shows when it's stuck is "[100%] Writing extended state information" |
| 03:43.18 | archdaemon | I tried purging and reinstalling aptitude and aptitude-common, as well as cleaning the package cache. no luck |
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| 03:44.40 | rryoumaa | archdaemon: no idea but i am curious why |
| 03:45.16 | rryoumaa | what-intensive is aptitude"? |
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| 03:46.43 | archdaemon | rryoumaa: i don't understand your question |
| 03:47.05 | emss | write ? |
| 03:47.17 | rryoumaa | well, it's probably not net-intensive when it is hanging |
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| 03:49.55 | archdaemon | rryoumaa: ah yes, checking top, it is 100% in io wait |
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| 03:51.35 | mischief | hi |
| 03:51.46 | mischief | how can i prevent alt-left/right from switching VTs? |
| 03:52.08 | mischief | i have debian jessie. |
| 03:56.22 | archdaemon | Strange, because io seems to be fine for everything else in this domU |
| 03:57.03 | archdaemon | including apt-get |
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| 04:05.34 | m3rl1 | bonjour tout le monde |
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| 04:07.11 | m3rl1 | question: je customise une iso linux .. mais l'iso utiliser demande uneconection lors de l'installation (pour le grub) . ai-je moyen de changer ça svp? en gros pouvoir faire une install complète sans co .. |
| 04:07.28 | m3rl1 | meri ;) |
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| 04:12.43 | rryoumaa | archdaemon: this means doing nothing? |
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| 04:25.17 | archdaemon | rryoumaa: I said seemed to be doing nothing. I still don't know what it's doing for 5 minutes or why |
| 04:28.35 | cafuego | m3rl1: nous parlons seulement annglais ici |
| 04:29.25 | cafuego | and though I can understand most of that question, I can't answer it in french |
| 04:30.26 | andry | hehe, same here |
| 04:31.15 | andry | writing "we only speed english here" in french would even take me 5 minutes |
| 04:31.25 | andry | speak |
| 04:31.28 | andry | speed... : |
| 04:32.04 | cafuego | andry: i can't even say "please type slower, my french is very bad" :-( |
| 04:32.50 | andry | me neither :) |
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| 04:34.06 | andry | oh, he is gone anyways |
| 04:34.27 | cafuego | stupid backlog |
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| 05:21.41 | ueoueoueoueo | what does it mean if grub-install is taking over 40 minutes? |
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| 05:27.01 | Shadow_7 | probably that it expects a parameter you did not provide. Or it doesn't have access to the device that it's installing to' |
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| 05:35.27 | cafuego | Milos|WebChat: generally, no |
| 05:35.38 | cafuego | Milos|WebChat: Are you going to run lvm on top? |
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| 06:44.54 | jelly-home | lskr: probably because the stdin action is a recent addition? |
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| 06:50.51 | lskr | jelly: hmm i guess you are right, i thought stdin was always there... |
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| 06:51.28 | lskr | (jelly-home: ^^) |
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| 06:52.22 | jelly-home | yeah, that's me in the corner |
| 06:52.50 | lskr | by the way, why does it suggest --merge-avail instead of --update-avail? |
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| 06:53.20 | lskr | wouldn't the dumpavail from apt-cache be a complete list? |
| 06:54.28 | lskr | (perhaps a better question: is there a "better" way to clone the package state from current system to a newly installed debian?) |
| 06:54.48 | jelly-home | it would, it probably makes better sense to --update-avail there |
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| 06:55.18 | jelly-home | you don't need to clone "available" at all, in most cases |
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| 06:55.43 | ageis | what's the key for a Debian package to be detected as an update by apt? Is it the Version field in control file? The filename? Or do I need a changelog file? |
| 06:56.40 | Milos|WebChat | ugh |
| 06:56.48 | Milos|WebChat | why is debian trying to install grub with efi |
| 06:56.50 | Milos|WebChat | I chose msdos partition |
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| 06:56.52 | jelly-home | lskr: to just clone the explicitely installed package set, see /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
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| 06:57.58 | jelly-home | ageis: it's the version field that gets copied into a repository's Packages file |
| 06:58.02 | hypermist | is their any command that i can use on debian that changes the file name and inside the file if the file it has the word dogecoin to replace it to mistcoin is it possibl;e ? |
| 06:58.16 | hypermist | all at once |
| 06:58.20 | hypermist | through every dir |
| 06:58.35 | jelly-home | hypermist: no, use two commands, one for contents, one for filenames |
| 06:58.38 | ageis | jelly-home: so you mean the DEBIAN/control file |
| 06:58.55 | hypermist | okay i have a file named dogecoin |
| 06:59.05 | hypermist | and the inside of the file has dogecoin through it |
| 06:59.05 | jelly-home | ageis: you don't normally edit DEBIAN/control manually |
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| 06:59.18 | hypermist | i want to replace it so that dogecoin = mistcoin instead for every dir and file |
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| 06:59.23 | ageis | jelly-home: I just tried incrementing that by adding a ~rc1, rebuilt the package and repository and it didnt detect as an update |
| 06:59.47 | jelly-home | ageis: 1~something is a lower version than 1 |
| 06:59.57 | hypermist | jelly-home, what are the two commands |
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| 07:00.22 | ageis | jelly-home o |
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| 07:01.41 | jelly-home | ageis: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version |
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| 07:02.36 | jelly-home | ageis: this was specifically introduced so that upstream versions like 1.0rc1 can be written as 1.0~rc1 and sorted lower than 1.0 |
| 07:03.29 | ageis | roger |
| 07:03.42 | ageis | so a plus would do? |
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| 07:04.13 | hypermist | ?? no help okay ;\ |
| 07:04.38 | jelly-home | hypermist: use something like grep -R -l keyword directory/ to figure out the files that need their contents changed, then sed -i or perl or something similar to change them in-place |
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| 07:05.03 | hypermist | i know what files need to be changed i just need it done all at once |
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| 07:05.32 | hypermist | Cause i need the file name changed |
| 07:05.32 | jelly-home | ageis: yes |
| 07:05.37 | hypermist | plus the contents of the file changed |
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| 07:05.59 | ageis | jelly-home: thanks |
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| 07:06.26 | jelly-home | ageis: what are you going to do when actual 1.0 is out, tho :-) |
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| 07:06.37 | ageis | =p |
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| 07:07.15 | jelly-home | 1.0+really1.0 (yes, there have been such package versions in Debian)? |
| 07:07.39 | hypermist | so yea thats my problem jelly-home i need the files name then inside the file wherever its got dogecoin to change it to mistcoin |
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| 07:08.28 | jelly-home | hypermist: I suggest learning for loops in shell to solve that. |
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| 07:10.24 | lskr | is the dpkg bot working now? i do not get any replay for /msg dpkg aptitude clone :-( |
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| 07:10.35 | lskr | (reply) |
| 07:10.45 | jelly-home | lskr: she seems to be absent, use dselect in the meantime |
| 07:10.55 | jelly-home | dselect: aptitude clone |
| 07:10.56 | dselect | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
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| 07:12.21 | lskr | thanks jelly-home |
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| 07:27.05 | User18 | Can anyone seed "the chi-lites albums" |
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| 07:27.52 | jelly-home | User18: quite probably the wrong channel for that |
| 07:28.48 | shomon | hi, I need radeon/R300_cp.bin - at least that's the message I get while booting... |
| 07:29.08 | shomon | I installed the apt-package for that driver but maybe I'm missing a step. |
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| 07:29.44 | User18 | Stu "d!ckless" Lantz betrays all; trannys & queers(chaste Homos/a$$holes), rule |
| 07:30.01 | Phyliares | shomon: apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 07:30.08 | User18 | Q bama, Q dubya, etc. |
| 07:30.33 | User18 | http://www.usa.gov/ |
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| 07:31.12 | shomon | thanks Phyliares! |
| 07:31.20 | Phyliares | np ;) |
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| 07:34.04 | anyMoreHC | +Wandip：wtf ? |
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| 07:45.43 | emss | hypermist this might work, would test it first! on a backup or something...: find . -name dogecoin | while read file; do mv $file ${file%dogecoin}mistcoin; sed -i 's/dogecoin/mistcoin/g' ${file%dogecoin}mistcoin; done |
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| 07:47.15 | emss | not sure if that's what you wanted... changing the file name and replacing "dogecoin" in the file with "mistcoin" |
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| 07:48.26 | __mel | has anyone deeper knowledge about using cpuid flags, the gcc compiler and libc6? |
| 07:48.34 | hypermist | yes that is mostly what i wanted can i do it all at once emss |
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| 07:50.40 | emss | hypermist that's one long command from 'find ... done' |
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| 07:51.01 | hypermist | will it work though cause thats basically what i need |
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| 07:51.19 | emss | would test it first |
| 07:51.23 | sweb | i have an erro during install package |
| 07:51.23 | sweb | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/6486869 |
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| 07:53.48 | hypermist | i will backup mah files emss |
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| 07:56.46 | sweb | is my server hacked ... a fool admin set root password to 123456 one day i change it today |
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| 07:57.11 | sweb | is my server hacked with these error s ? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/6486869 |
| 07:57.22 | takeyourhatoff | sweb: if you had ssh running on an internet accessible IP for more than 10 mins with a pass of 123456 yes |
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| 07:57.53 | takeyourhatoff | run ps aux |
| 07:58.08 | Nectur | takeyourhatoff: lol |
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| 08:07.22 | hypermist | http://hastebin.com/jubodaheve.mel hyperdebian |
| 08:07.23 | hypermist | :D |
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| 08:08.34 | hypermist | that command line didn't work when i pressed enter emss |
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| 08:10.23 | endthefed | hi does debian have a fairly recent version of swi prolog in packages? |
| 08:10.26 | hypermist | how to make it look in sub folders also emss |
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| 08:11.57 | emss | hypermist it should already do that |
| 08:12.03 | hypermist | its not finding anything :\ |
| 08:12.20 | hypermist | but i know there is |
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| 08:15.28 | emss | hypermist find . -name dogecoin |
| 08:15.41 | hypermist | that doesn't find anything |
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| 08:16.16 | emss | should find all files and directories named dogecoin |
| 08:16.17 | hypermist | well it doesn't report |
| 08:16.26 | hypermist | it just leaves blank |
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| 08:16.37 | hypermist | like when i go find . -name dogecoin |
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| 08:16.43 | hypermist | it doesn't say anything |
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| 08:17.54 | emss | try asking in #bash |
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| 08:18.59 | hypermist | done :D |
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| 08:21.37 | DaisyTheCow | I have a cron job that is scheduled to run at 5am on Monday morning. It downloads a file. The timestamp on the file says that it was created at 23:38 on Sunday. I've 'touch'ed a file to check see what date/time that gives and I get the correct time/date. Any ideas why my cron job is running too early? |
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| 08:44.56 | Tebyan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:48.18 | Snacksicles | test |
| 08:48.41 | Snacksicles | huh, cookies. |
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| 08:49.40 | Snacksicles | hey, I'm trying to switch desktop environment via commandline, or otherwise boot x with gnome, when the current default is xfce4. |
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| 08:50.20 | Snacksicles | but running "gnome-session" hangs for no apparent reason. Is that normal, and am I missing something? |
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| 08:50.44 | Snacksicles | when I run gnome-session from terminal, I mean, with no DE booted. |
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| 08:52.25 | Snacksicles | can everyone actually see this test? I can't tell if it's just people being AFK or not. |
| 08:52.36 | bhuddah | ? |
| 08:53.02 | Snacksicles | wait, can you see anything I typed before the previous line? or just that one line? |
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| 08:53.36 | day | Snacksicles: when i run gnome... was the previous line i see |
| 08:54.35 | Snacksicles | k, thought there might've been something weird hppening so I re-identified, nvm on that though |
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| 08:55.57 | Snacksicles | I've noticed that I can start desktop with either "startx", or "startxfce4", and I'm assuming that "gnome-session" is an analogous to startxfce4, but with gnome instead. |
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| 08:59.18 | Snacksicles | huh, that's odd |
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| 09:00.24 | Snacksicles | I rebooted, and it booted into gnome by default, and it also actively booted to desktop by default, rather than staying in tty until I started X manually. |
| 09:00.25 | MisterE | Hello, I have a normal user account with no password (auto-login on) and the root account of course but to install something running as regular user I need a sudo password... Do I need to set a separate password for sudo for this user? |
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| 09:01.06 | MisterE | sudo apt-get install xchat prompts me for "sudo pass" |
| 09:01.45 | blackjack | type none |
| 09:01.49 | Snacksicles | I think you need to know that "sudo" runs something with administrative privilege, it's different to the "root" user. |
| 09:01.51 | blackjack | i dont know why you did not put a password |
| 09:02.15 | MisterE | because I'm the only one with physical access |
| 09:02.26 | Snacksicles | like, if you type "sudo get-me-a-sandwich", it'll ask for MisterE's password. |
| 09:02.35 | MisterE | and I figured after getting my install set-up I could change it if needed |
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| 09:02.45 | MisterE | Snacksicles: exactly |
| 09:02.54 | MisterE | I want me sandwich yesterday |
| 09:02.58 | blackjack | Snacksicles, different than root? I thought that was just the same. and performs the same. and has the highest level, which is the same as root |
| 09:03.01 | Snacksicles | but if you type "su" (to switch to root), then it'll ask for the root password, and then you can just type "get-me-a-sandwich" |
| 09:03.02 | MisterE | how to do? |
| 09:03.09 | MisterE | ahh |
| 09:03.15 | MisterE | is installing as root ok? |
| 09:03.21 | MisterE | is that ok practice? |
| 09:03.27 | MisterE | best practice? |
| 09:03.33 | MisterE | I usually ran as root |
| 09:03.38 | MisterE | I'm trying to do it right now |
| 09:03.39 | Snacksicles | blackjack, they have the same elevations (mostly), but they're not the same. Sometimes you can do stuff as su, but not with sudo. Not sure why. |
| 09:03.47 | MisterE | almost every tool I use requires root |
| 09:04.05 | Snacksicles | you can only use sudo if you're in the sudo-ers group, by the way. |
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| 09:04.21 | MisterE | and you have to be root to add a user to sudoers? |
| 09:04.48 | SynrG | Yes |
| 09:04.55 | Snacksicles | you have to be root, or in the sudoers, to add to sudoers. |
| 09:05.10 | MisterE | and this has to be done via terminal right? |
| 09:05.33 | MisterE | how do I add my regular user as a sudoer and is that a security risk? |
| 09:05.40 | MisterE | why not just run as admin? |
| 09:05.43 | Snacksicles | not exactly. Technically you can do it outside terminal, but in practice you'll interface via shell |
| 09:05.54 | MisterE | ok |
| 09:05.54 | Snacksicles | sudo == run as admin, aka "root" |
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| 09:06.10 | MisterE | admin != root right? |
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| 09:06.13 | MisterE | not same |
| 09:06.38 | Snacksicles | eh, not entirely sure what "admin" means |
| 09:06.41 | MisterE | when I had an admin account as well it prompted me for admin pass |
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| 09:06.57 | MisterE | should I have a minimum of 2 accounts set up normal user and admin? |
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| 09:07.11 | MisterE | well root is always there |
| 09:07.12 | Snacksicles | root is a specific user, though - sudo just runs a command as if you were the root user. |
| 09:07.22 | MisterE | I can change password but you cant mess with root heh |
| 09:07.41 | Snacksicles | type "su" to switch to root user. |
| 09:07.51 | MisterE | is that the best way? |
| 09:07.59 | MisterE | to install stuff on a one off? |
| 09:08.08 | MisterE | I want to learn to do it the right way |
| 09:08.17 | Snacksicles | no. but it's useful for understanding root. |
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| 09:08.22 | SynrG | Is this a Debian system? |
| 09:08.31 | MisterE | ok I do understand that |
| 09:08.34 | MisterE | yes ofc |
| 09:08.38 | SynrG | Debian has no admin account |
| 09:08.43 | gXen | when I try to install mysql with 'apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client' on weezy, I get following errors: mysql-client : Depends: mysql-client-5.5 but it is not going to be installed |
| 09:08.43 | gXen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.55 | MisterE | SynrG: screenshot? |
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| 09:09.34 | SynrG | On my cell. No. |
| 09:10.02 | Rovanion_ | Is there any reliable way to mount a ssh share in my home folder, a way that reconnects it after suspend? |
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| 09:10.47 | SynrG | Debian, by default, does not create an account called "admin" |
| 09:10.58 | SynrG | How did you install Debian? |
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| 09:12.18 | MisterE | SynrG: pic is only 45k http://www.picpaste.com/pics/Debial-Admin-User.1410772319.jpg |
| 09:12.56 | MisterE | Rovanion: softether? |
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| 09:13.50 | SynrG | Which Debian release? |
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| 09:14.22 | SynrG | tbh, I've never looked at GNOME's accounts thing |
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| 09:15.00 | gXen | when I try to install mysql with 'apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client' on weezy, I get following errors: mysql-client : Depends: mysql-client-5.5 but it is not going to be installed |
| 09:15.01 | gXen | <gXen> , mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.5 but it is not going to be installed. what do I need to do? |
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| 09:16.17 | MisterE_ | sorry, was a power outage :/ last thing I said was I created the account there was only root setup by installer |
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| 09:18.49 | SynrG | MisterE: as i said, I've not looked at the GNOME accounts thing before, and I wondered which Debian release lists 'admin' there. |
| 09:19.03 | blackjack | <Snacksicles> blackjack, they have the same elevations (mostly), but they're not the same. Sometimes you can do stuff as su, but not with sudo. Not sure why. <-- is this statement really true? |
| 09:19.04 | SynrG | it just looks strange to me |
| 09:19.24 | blackjack | can you name a command that a sudoer can't do that root can? Hmm (i thought both are just the same) |
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| 09:19.48 | blackjack | thats why some distro default installs dont need a root, just a sudoed user is fine |
| 09:20.00 | SynrG | blackjack: absolutely. sudo is not root. |
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| 09:20.13 | SynrG | sudo is a means to elevate privileges to accomplish the specified thing ... |
| 09:20.39 | SynrG | you *can* configure sudo to allow a user to do *all* things, and that's how it is commonly deployed for the primary user of a system |
| 09:20.48 | MisterE | so its best for the one off odd install |
| 09:20.55 | MisterE | thats what I wantto do install xchat |
| 09:20.58 | SynrG | but it could also be configured, for example, to allow a 'special' user to do one privileged thing |
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| 09:21.03 | Rovanion | MisterE: Softether seems to be a vpn server. |
| 09:21.27 | SynrG | blackjack: does that clear it up? |
| 09:21.49 | blackjack | yeah ok. so thats why my installation did not have a root |
| 09:21.53 | MisterE | ahh that's right I'm sorry Rovanion I just remembered it was very good with arbitrating poor connections |
| 09:22.01 | blackjack | coz maybe my username has all the privelege, on the 'sudo' |
| 09:22.03 | SynrG | blackjack: so effectively, yes, sudo as configured for the primary user by many distros is equivalent to root |
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| 09:22.16 | blackjack | so if thats the case, my username is actually root itself? |
| 09:22.23 | MisterE | yea |
| 09:22.28 | MisterE | when you log in as root |
| 09:22.37 | MisterE | you need to do that and change the root pass |
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| 09:22.52 | SynrG | blackjack: well, not per se. your user is a user that is allowed to elevate privileges to accomplish anything it wants. |
| 09:22.56 | blackjack | ok SynrG. i got it now. :) thanks. so i dont need to create a root anymore then |
| 09:23.22 | MisterE | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:23.24 | blackjack | i thought i still need to create a 'root' one coz i might need it for some special occasion |
| 09:23.25 | blackjack | hehehe |
| 09:23.27 | MisterE | no |
| 09:23.39 | MisterE | thats what I wonder about admin |
| 09:23.42 | MisterE | but I will just su |
| 09:23.45 | SynrG | blackjack: the root user is always there, and you can see this in the ownership of many files of your system |
| 09:24.19 | blackjack | but right now SynrG i dont know its password. coz it nevered asked me to configure for one |
| 09:24.30 | SynrG | MisterE: i don't know a thing about this 'admin' thing you showed in the screenshot. that's alien to me |
| 09:24.36 | blackjack | it never* |
| 09:25.05 | SynrG | blackjack: there are many 'system' users on your system you'll never login as |
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| 09:25.12 | MisterE | maybe it's a Gnome aberration |
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| 09:25.19 | MisterE | right |
| 09:25.19 | blackjack | i know SynrG. like www |
| 09:25.23 | MisterE | I deleted it |
| 09:25.26 | MisterE | I will su |
| 09:25.33 | SynrG | if your system is configured with no root password, root still exists ... you just don't login as root |
| 09:25.39 | MisterE | when I delete a user and choose to keep its files where can I find them? |
| 09:25.40 | SynrG | you use sudo instead |
| 09:25.42 | blackjack | SynrG, so how do i set my root password for the first time? hmmm |
| 09:25.44 | fjalvarez | hello there. I need to update a memcached package but I'm not sure if this is safe ... I've added wheezy to my source list (i'm actually running on squeeze). Any clue ? Thanks! |
| 09:25.49 | MisterE | no I have a root pass! |
| 09:25.55 | MisterE | and not default heh |
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| 09:26.06 | MisterE | psswd command blackjack |
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| 09:26.11 | SynrG | blackjack: if you installed without a root password, you have your own user password and have been granted sudo access. |
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| 09:26.24 | SynrG | blackjack: so you can change root's password with that, enabling logins as root |
| 09:26.50 | blackjack | so with what command? sudo passwd root ? |
| 09:26.56 | blackjack | then put the password? hmm |
| 09:26.58 | SynrG | yes. |
| 09:27.04 | blackjack | ok thanks |
| 09:27.07 | MisterE | sorry blackjack "passwd" is the command |
| 09:27.17 | MisterE | you will be prompted |
| 09:27.28 | blackjack | i just wonder SynrG. if root has no password set to it, (what would the system generate as password for it?) |
| 09:27.40 | blackjack | i mean |
| 09:27.40 | MisterE | toor |
| 09:27.49 | blackjack | its imposible to hack it if there is no password eh? |
| 09:27.50 | jolt | Oden! |
| 09:27.55 | MisterE | ^ lel |
| 09:28.14 | blackjack | just to say.. |
| 09:28.25 | jolt | blackjack: It's hard to login, thats for sure |
| 09:28.28 | SynrG | blackjack: an account with no password cannot be logged into |
| 09:28.31 | MisterE | blackjack: logout login as root and password toor |
| 09:28.35 | MisterE | change the password |
| 09:28.51 | blackjack | SynrG, so its better that way then. much more secure |
| 09:28.52 | blackjack | lol |
| 09:28.57 | blackjack | i wont set a passwd then |
| 09:29.03 | SynrG | i wouldn't say so |
| 09:29.04 | MisterE | lol dude |
| 09:29.09 | MisterE | youre trolling |
| 09:29.29 | MisterE | not srsly :p |
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| 09:29.33 | blackjack | cmon technically |
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| 09:29.42 | blackjack | if someone wants to access my machine..for example |
| 09:29.47 | blackjack | theres only two account existing |
| 09:29.51 | blackjack | my user, and the 'root' |
| 09:29.55 | MisterE | yea they always go for root |
| 09:29.59 | blackjack | which cannot be log on to? right? |
| 09:30.00 | MisterE | already got user |
| 09:30.10 | MisterE | if yo leave pass default you're sploited |
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| 09:30.33 | SynrG | MisterE: what 'default'? Debian has no default passwords |
| 09:30.36 | jolt | I use ssh-keys and set sshd to "without-password", then you can SSH in as root, but not login via passwd |
| 09:30.40 | blackjack | MisterE, there is no pass default since the system never created one. |
| 09:30.47 | MisterE | SynrG: blackjack said that I kow of none |
| 09:30.51 | jolt | or just use sudo |
| 09:30.56 | MisterE | always 'toor' ime |
| 09:31.21 | SynrG | MisterE: again, which distribution? Debian does not have a 'toor' default |
| 09:31.24 | MisterE | jolt: clever! |
| 09:31.29 | MisterE | Kali |
| 09:31.34 | SynrG | !kali |
| 09:31.38 | MisterE | :( |
| 09:31.44 | SynrG | this is not Debian |
| 09:31.45 | MisterE | now no one will talk to me anymore |
| 09:31.55 | SynrG | and dpkg bot is not here to tell you this, but support is on #debian |
| 09:31.56 | MisterE | !Kali Linux |
| 09:32.13 | SynrG | so wtf, dude. earlier i asked you directly if it was Debian and you said 'ofc' |
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| 09:32.26 | MisterE | I promise you it is a debian based distro |
| 09:32.27 | SynrG | please don't lie to get support. this will get you banned |
| 09:32.29 | blackjack | lol MisterE. dude you are the troll one here. hmmm |
| 09:32.56 | MisterE | I will find the page with info to prove I am not trolling or lying |
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| 09:33.15 | blackjack | SynrG, by the way im using crunchbang. which is also a debian based OS |
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| 09:33.29 | blackjack | it never asked me to set a root password |
| 09:33.33 | MisterE | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Linux Kali Linux is a Debian-derived Linux distribution designed for digital forensics and penetration testing. It is maintained and funded by Offensive Security Ltd. |
| 09:33.37 | SynrGy | MisterE: it's a dead issue. give it up. it's not debian, and we can't know what changes Kali made. we know it's Debian-based but that's not the same thing. |
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| 09:33.50 | MisterE | I dont appreciate being called a liar first line in wiki |
| 09:33.51 | blackjack | so you mean to say SynrG, it cannot be logged unto, unless i make a password for it eh? |
| 09:34.02 | MisterE | better edit that wiki page to let them know that |
| 09:34.18 | SynrGy | !abk MisterE debian-derived *IS NOT DEBIAN* |
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| 09:34.27 | SynrGy | feck |
| 09:34.38 | SynrGy | don't have the energy for this |
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| 09:37.11 | jelly | !comfort SynrGy |
| 09:37.23 | no_gravity | Good Morning! Whats a good way to make scanning available on debian? Gimp doesn't show a menu item for it by default. |
| 09:37.32 | jelly | dselect: comfort SynrGy |
| 09:37.32 | dselect | There, there, SynrGy. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 09:38.18 | SynrG | dselect: tell me a story? |
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| 09:38.53 | SynrG | <dselect> No, synrg, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 09:39.01 | SynrG | cold, dselect. cold. |
| 09:40.04 | SynrG | no_gravity: you need sane ... |
| 09:40.27 | SynrG | probably xsane |
| 09:40.36 | no_gravity | SynrG: apt-get install xsane? |
| 09:40.40 | SynrG | yeap |
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| 09:40.58 | SynrG | then gimp has it added under Create |
| 09:41.12 | no_gravity | ok, lets see... |
| 09:41.19 | SynrG | should at least have a Device Dialog entry from which you can probe for your device |
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| 09:42.07 | no_gravity | SynrG: yes, it works! awesome! thanks! |
| 09:42.38 | SynrG | yay |
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| 09:48.45 | blackjack | SynrG, what windows manager you using for debian? |
| 09:49.19 | SynrG | depends |
| 09:49.49 | SynrG | at this instant? cinnamon |
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| 09:52.12 | SynrG | blackjack: comparing notes like this really belongs on #debian-offtopic though |
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| 09:58.50 | munnis | how can I read my syslog.gz? It is kinda big and I need to browse through it |
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| 09:59.03 | munnis | I tried zmore, but I dont feel like going line by line for 100 000 rows |
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| 10:01.22 | SynrGy | munnis: zgrep helps, too |
| 10:01.31 | SynrGy | munnis: and 'zless'. use "/" to search |
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| 10:02.40 | munnis | that sounds like a pain |
| 10:02.48 | munnis | can I turn it into a normal file for nano to use? |
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| 10:04.32 | dselect | Yes, themill, you are online. |
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| 10:08.41 | SynrG | munnis: yes, you can gunzip with an output filepath |
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| 10:09.06 | muculus | I want to make a public repository of debian in IRAN, what is your approximation for server specification(such as hard disk, ram and cpu)? |
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| 10:09.10 | munnis | gz files cant simply be extraced as an archive? |
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| 10:11.16 | munnis | oh well, gzip -c foo.gz > test worked great |
| 10:11.23 | SynrG | munnis: the default behaviour is to decompress 'in place'. you can use zcat which is equivalent |
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| 10:11.32 | SynrG | zcat foo.gz > test |
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| 10:14.08 | SynrG | munnis: i can't say about ram and cpu. that depends on how many users you have ... see https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror and particularly mirror size linked there. |
| 10:14.42 | SynrG | munnis: mirrors vary in size as well. not all mirrors carry everything. |
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| 10:25.49 | SynrG | muculus: i can't say about ram and cpu. that depends on how many users you have ... see https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror and particularly mirror size linked there. mirrors vary in size as well. not all mirrors carry everything. |
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| 10:59.47 | Nectur | I'm trying out unetbootin and it warns me that i need a debian-iso installer/file where would i find one for testing? |
| 11:00.34 | jelly | Nectur: best not to use Unetbootin for Debian, it does not work well |
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| 11:01.24 | Nectur | what would you recommend? |
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| 11:02.30 | iugrina | Hi guys. I would like to get involved in Debian project. More correctly, I would like to help with https://bugs.debian.org/752392 . I've send an e-mail to the current maintainer but haven't got a reply. If anyone is willing to lead me through the process I would be glad. |
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| 11:10.11 | colo-work | HA IPv4 addresses on Debian - how do you do it? ucarp with the way it integrates with the network scripts does not support more than one HA IPv4 address per _physical_ interface, which sucks. any alternatives that are not a dead-end in theirselves? |
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| 11:14.06 | ChrisH | colo-work: bonding with active-backup? I have not yet tested it on Debian but on RedHat, assuming as its a kernel feature, it should behave similar/same. |
| 11:14.49 | colo-work | ChrisH, I don't want to protect against interface failure, but against host failure. two distinct hosts in the same broadcast domain shall be able to have N IPv4 addresses migrate between them. |
| 11:15.08 | ChrisH | colo-work: OK. Next one please :) |
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| 11:15.26 | jelly | colo-work: a coworker uses pacemaker & corosync |
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| 11:15.37 | colo-work | jelly, and is he happy with it? |
| 11:15.42 | colo-work | I looked at it briefly already |
| 11:15.46 | ChrisH | BTW, carp on BSD allows more IPs per physical NIC. |
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| 11:16.10 | jelly | colo-work: it works; however his installations deal with a single floating ip per cluster |
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| 11:16.15 | colo-work | ChrisH, ucarp on Linux allows for more as well, but the Debian _integration_ with /etc/network/interfaces is broken in that regard |
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| 11:16.41 | colo-work | jelly, I see. tell him that if he ever wants an alternative, ucarp might fit the bill ;) |
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| 11:16.48 | jelly | ... don't except interfaces(5) to be able to deal with complex situations |
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| 11:17.18 | colo-work | jelly, it's not really that complex; there's third-party hacks around the limitation, and I tried to beat it into shape as well |
| 11:17.23 | Knaldgas | How can I get rid of the "Couldn't register with accessibility bus:" warning when starting emacs in terminal? Tried the "export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1" in /etc/environment, but that didn't work... |
| 11:17.34 | colo-work | I ultimately decided against it, I don't want to maintain another potential dead-end again |
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| 11:49.20 | gXen | was wondering: if I use 'rsync -avz --delete root@0.0.0.0:\ \ |
| 11:49.29 | gXen | will I have a full functioning backup? |
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| 11:51.58 | Floris497 | i can read the serial but after it’s done booting i cant press space to login.. |
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| 11:53.16 | oznt | hi guys, I am tried to install a package I built myself, when I install it with dpkg -i mypackage.deb it complains: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1, |
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| 11:56.48 | jelly | oznt: add set -x as the second line in your /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postinst script, and run "dpkg --configure -a" to see where it breaks |
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| 11:58.35 | nkuttler | !ping |
| 11:58.35 | dpkg | Sorry nkuttler, you're not online. |
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| 11:59.05 | petn-randall | oznt: Your post-installation script didn't return 0, dpkg checks for that. |
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| 11:59.29 | petn-randall | oznt: Oh, you crossposted on the other #debian channel, too. Bad thing :( |
| 11:59.49 | oznt | petn-randall: are you there too? |
| 11:59.59 | petn-randall | oznt: Yes. |
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| 12:17.13 | Nectur | when i do dd if=Deblive.iso of=/dev/sdb i end up with a oddly formatted usb drive that claims to be 29Gb, but it's only 8GB 0.o |
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| 12:21.02 | gXen | is rsync -az --delete root@0.0.0.0:/ / creating a working copy? |
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| 12:22.25 | Nectur | gXen: have not ried it i thought it was for backups |
| 12:22.47 | ChrisH | gXen: do not expect it to be bootable, it might be |
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| 12:24.13 | Z1T1TTT | HI guys when I right click on my debian desktop, it desnt show the usual stuff. I want to change desktop wallpaper can I dont see that option anymore\ |
| 12:24.26 | gXen | creating a fall back server... need it to be in sync... wondering if I need to sync specific dirs or just sync the whole thing |
| 12:25.00 | petn-randall | gXen: Syncing the whole thing will result in an unbootable system. |
| 12:25.23 | gXen | petn-randall: which dirs should I avoid? |
| 12:25.39 | petn-randall | gXen: Just sync the relevant bits, so the config you want to replicate. |
| 12:26.27 | gXen | petn-randall: are /var and /etc safe to sync? |
| 12:26.28 | petn-randall | gXen: Things like /etc/fstab will reference different UUIDs, and things like /var/lib/mysql will change during copy, resulting in a corrupted database. |
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| 12:31.22 | ChrisH | gXen: define fall-back sever in details. eg. for a DB sever things like Mysql-master-slave replication will make more sense. |
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| 12:32.19 | gXen | server contains mysql db and functions as webserver |
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| 12:33.05 | petn-randall | gXen: The most sensible approach would be to only copy those things over that you need. You need a good picture of that anyway in case something breaks down. |
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| 12:36.40 | gXen | I already have a script that syncs the db, and an rsync for the webserver files... but the performance of the mirror server is less good. |
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| 12:37.26 | gXen | no idea which configuration files to amend... but thanks for the help... rsync the whole thing was too easy |
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| 12:43.30 | ChrisH | gXen: eg. git save the config files; sync the DBs ; setup orchestration tools to keep the server config in sync and to be able to setup a replacment box fast and easy |
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| 12:45.00 | Knaldgas | Got 5 x "Failed to connect to the VirtualBox kernel service" in .xsession-errors, but virtualbox appears to work fine. Any hints of what may be the problem? |
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| 12:48.01 | petn-randall | Knaldgas: .xessions-erros comes without per-line timestamps; are you sure it's current? |
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| 12:48.44 | Knaldgas | petn-randall: Pretty sure, its first line is "Xsession: X session started for XXX at Mon Sep 15 14:41:55 CEST 2014" |
| 12:49.06 | Knaldgas | I presume it gets cleared before each start |
| 12:49.39 | petn-randall | Knaldgas: Ah, ok then. So you can start your VMs without problems, and things like USB passthrough work fine? |
| 12:50.01 | Knaldgas | Not sure, havn't tried that |
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| 12:51.54 | Knaldgas | petn-randall: The modules loaded (lsmod) are: vboxdrv, vboxnetadp, vboxnetflt, vboxpci - Are any missing? |
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| 12:53.54 | Knaldgas | petn-randall: My answer was not that precise... I can start VMs, and they seem to work just fine, but didn't try USB-passthrough |
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| 12:59.58 | petn-randall | Knaldgas: Then I have no idea what the cause would be, googling the exact string with a restriction on the last year for results might get you closer to the cause. |
| 13:00.10 | ShalokShalom | my apper is broken since the last update in jessy, am i alone ? |
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| 13:01.37 | petn-randall | ShalokShalom: Try asking on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, where jessie/sid are supported. |
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| 13:02.15 | ShalokShalom | i cant log in the oftc, since my router is broken and freenode is as well only accessable with webchat |
| 13:02.22 | sine0 | hello. I have setup exim4 on my debian server and i have sent an email from there and it went well. however im not sure if i can receive emails to it, do i have to forward smtp ports (probably obvious..) |
| 13:02.26 | ShalokShalom | which dont work for oftc |
| 13:02.47 | sine0 | but also what method do i use on the system to see the emails |
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| 13:03.35 | Knaldgas | petn-randall: Yeah, I did search the string, but didn't restrict the search though - Tried now but no luck so far |
| 13:03.51 | ShalokShalom | petn-randall: can you copy please my error log ? it appear, when i try to search in apper: |
| 13:03.52 | ShalokShalom | sdf |
| 13:04.04 | ShalokShalom | Unable to open database read-only: Database action 'prepare app insert statement' failed: SQL logic error or missing database (table applications has no column named unique_name) |
| 13:04.09 | bezaban | sine0: to receive email to a mail server you a) need to open smtp b) need an mx record in dns for the domain you want to receive email for. Also quite a few mail servers will reject mail from servers which do not have a matching PTR (reverse) lookup. |
| 13:04.24 | petn-randall | ShalokShalom: You're running a pre-release version of Debian, we expect you to know how to operate an IRC client if you want support. |
| 13:04.41 | bezaban | sine0: typically you can not reliably run a mail server on a residential line |
| 13:04.41 | ShalokShalom | once again: my router is broken |
| 13:04.53 | workerbeetwo | Hi is ther a "startproc" equivalent on debian to start, stop, restart usual scripts? startproc makes sure that a process is not already running before starting it. |
| 13:04.55 | ShalokShalom | quassel dont work |
| 13:05.15 | ShalokShalom | all other things work nice, just irc not |
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| 13:06.07 | sine0 | bezaban: my isp is a little different. my ip reverses to a domain stfutbh.plus.com. also i have bought a domin which points to my ip address, however reversing hte ip points to the plus.com, and your saying to use my bought.co.uk it needs to reverse to ip and back again |
| 13:06.41 | sine0 | which my isp also supports this options in the online setup, I just have not done it yet :D |
| 13:06.58 | sine0 | because im not sure on the domain i bought yet |
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| 13:07.43 | bezaban | sine0: if you can change your PTR record with your ISP that is nice :) Then that is all that should be needed along with an MX record and opening/forwarding smtp to your mail server |
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| 13:08.09 | sine0 | if i send a mail from my gmail account to sine@stfutbh.plus.com it will revsere the ip and search for port 25 to be open? im going to try this now. |
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| 13:08.31 | sine0 | bezaban: what i dont know of an mx record, this is another newbie stumbling block haha |
| 13:08.35 | sine0 | is there a man page |
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| 13:08.39 | bezaban | sine0: no. the ptr record is to prevent other mail servers from rejecting mail from your server |
| 13:08.53 | sine0 | and what is the ptr |
| 13:08.56 | bezaban | sine0: the MX record is in DNS where it says 'deliver mail to this domain to this server' |
| 13:08.58 | sine0 | is it like a validation cert |
| 13:09.20 | sine0 | so these are not local files ? |
| 13:09.22 | bezaban | sine0: ptr is the reverse lookup record. If your ISP lets you change that they sound very good, but most do not |
| 13:09.23 | sine0 | mx |
| 13:09.24 | reugh | how to fix that all new folders and files are created with lets say group backup as owner |
| 13:09.30 | bezaban | sine0: you set this in your DNS server |
| 13:09.40 | bezaban | sine0: or DNS provider control panel |
| 13:09.52 | sine0 | would this be my router or on my local machine# |
| 13:10.00 | bezaban | sine0: none |
| 13:10.11 | sine0 | So its part of buying a domain name too |
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| 13:10.14 | sine0 | you can set ptr and mx |
| 13:10.16 | bezaban | sine0: there you maintain the zone file for your domain. yep |
| 13:10.30 | bezaban | sine0: no. PTR is set by the people who own your IP address. most do not let you change this |
| 13:10.33 | sine0 | ok ok i think my isp s good there was lots of options so i will check |
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| 13:11.42 | sine0 | bezaban: http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php?topic=96429.0 |
| 13:12.15 | bezaban | sine0: neat. Good isp :) |
| 13:12.25 | sine0 | sweet |
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| 13:12.57 | sine0 | so i still have to contact an admin on the forum. i think i will wait untill i get a domain i want to stick with. say for work etc |
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| 13:14.31 | sine0 | bezaban: if i buy a domain and setup the dns for it so ip==lulzdomain.co.uk then can i add things like i.like.teh.lulzdomain.co.uk |
| 13:14.34 | sine0 | like yours |
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| 13:15.11 | sine0 | I have static |
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| 13:15.14 | sine0 | but only 1 ip |
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| 13:17.12 | bezaban | sine0: yes, but only one PTR record per IP address for use with stuff like IRC |
| 13:17.41 | bezaban | sine0: for A records you can have as many you like. |
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| 13:18.46 | sine0 | im not sure what you mean as i dont fully know the difference between A records and PTR |
| 13:18.54 | sine0 | but i will look it up, its just chat at the moment |
| 13:19.20 | bezaban | we're drifting slightly offtopic, but I can continue in #debian-offtopic if you like :) |
| 13:20.42 | sine0 | ok im there |
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| 13:24.37 | sephioh | somebody already used debconf to provide database parameters to a debian package like mediawiki, otrs or wordpress? |
| 13:25.12 | cntrx | I wonder what it means |
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| 13:28.19 | tomodachi | belowzero: if you havent had a kernel upgrade lately it sounds hardware related |
| 13:28.25 | TyrfingMjolnir | I have 2 installs of debian |
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| 13:28.35 | TyrfingMjolnir | one of them is configured |
| 13:29.03 | TyrfingMjolnir | can I rscyn root from the one that is setup to the base install? |
| 13:29.08 | TyrfingMjolnir | *rsync |
| 13:29.20 | TyrfingMjolnir | or will that break? |
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| 13:31.05 | petn-randall | TyrfingMjolnir: Did you ask that earlier as 'gXen'? |
| 13:31.10 | TyrfingMjolnir | Nope |
| 13:31.19 | TyrfingMjolnir | Must have been several years ago |
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| 13:31.25 | TyrfingMjolnir | What is gXen? |
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| 13:32.15 | petn-randall | TyrfingMjolnir: Because a few hours ago someone else asked the exact same question. The answer is 'no'. |
| 13:32.28 | TyrfingMjolnir | Why? |
| 13:32.43 | TyrfingMjolnir | What will break? |
| 13:32.50 | TyrfingMjolnir | Or will this crash in the process? |
| 13:33.19 | gXen | petn-randall, I am a different person than TyrfingMjolnir |
| 13:33.33 | petn-randall | TyrfingMjolnir: It will break because things like the UUIDs in /etc/fstab will be different, or the MAC addresses in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. |
| 13:33.51 | TyrfingMjolnir | Are those the only two? |
| 13:33.55 | TyrfingMjolnir | That is easy to fix |
| 13:33.59 | gXen | no Tyrfing |
| 13:34.08 | petn-randall | TyrfingMjolnir: There's probably a few dozen more, you'd have to find out yourself. |
| 13:34.17 | gXen | your mysql wont work anymore |
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| 13:34.33 | petn-randall | TyrfingMjolnir: If you don't want do an install with the installer, consider using debootstrap. |
| 13:34.35 | gXen | and /etc/network is another one that will break stuff |
| 13:34.44 | TyrfingMjolnir | I just debootstrapped it |
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| 13:35.04 | TyrfingMjolnir | But I would like to not think about what is installed |
| 13:35.15 | TyrfingMjolnir | perhaps I only need /etc and /opt |
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| 13:37.34 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: numeric uids and gids |
| 13:38.22 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: unfortunately even the base install has a couple dynamically created system users and groups, and those may differ between installations |
| 13:38.53 | TyrfingMjolnir | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 13:38.54 | TyrfingMjolnir | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.57 | TyrfingMjolnir | This is the problem |
| 13:39.02 | TyrfingMjolnir | The VDI is 138GB in size |
| 13:39.11 | jelly | thus if you clone /etc/{passwd,group} and friends, you'll have to fix ownerships all over the filesystem not just /etc and /opt |
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| 13:46.45 | TyrfingMjolnir | Perhaps it's simpler to mount a new HDD in vbox and tar my running system onto the new disk? |
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| 13:55.11 | TyrfingMjolnir | Will this work? tar cvf - / --exclude /mnt | tar xvf - /mnt |
| 13:55.44 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: perhaps tar cvf - / --exclude /mnt | { cd /mnt; tar xvf - } |
| 13:55.58 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: or --one-file-system |
| 13:56.12 | TyrfingMjolnir | ? |
| 13:56.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | One file system? |
| 13:56.20 | jelly | it's an option for tar. |
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| 14:02.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | Reading up on it |
| 14:03.02 | TyrfingMjolnir | Looks tempting |
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| 14:03.53 | TyrfingMjolnir | But I only have 1 system.... |
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| 14:04.54 | bmr | TyrfingMjolnir, not much point doing tar | tar on a single host (although it works nicely over e.g. a compressed network pipe via ssh or whatever) |
| 14:05.00 | bmr | TyrfingMjolnir, any reason not to use rsync? |
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| 14:05.22 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync will preserve ownerships? |
| 14:05.25 | TyrfingMjolnir | tar does... |
| 14:05.46 | bmr | It supports tar style excludes via --exclude so your --exclude /mnt would work exactly the same |
| 14:05.55 | bmr | tyler-baker, yep just specify the -p switch |
| 14:06.12 | bmr | -p/--perms |
| 14:06.15 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync -p --exclude /mnt / /mnt |
| 14:06.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | like that? |
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| 14:07.13 | bmr | TyrfingMjolnir, that should work |
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| 14:07.31 | bmr | TyrfingMjolnir, although my usual combo is "rsync -avP" |
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| 14:07.54 | bmr | (-a is archive mode - sets -rlptgoD, -v is verbose, -P is progress) |
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| 14:08.43 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync -avPp --exclude /mnt / /mnt |
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| 14:08.46 | TyrfingMjolnir | ? |
| 14:09.10 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: with rsync you may want to add --numeric-ids, -H and -S to -a depending on where you run it and whether you care about hardlinks or sparse files |
| 14:09.14 | bmr | -r - recursive, -l - links, -p - perms, -t - times, -g - groups, -o - owner, -D - devices & special files) |
| 14:09.35 | jelly | and -x for single-file-system traversing |
| 14:09.58 | TyrfingMjolnir | ownership should be preserved |
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| 14:10.26 | bmr | you might also want to feed it '/*' as the source; otherwise it may try to create a directory named /mnt// and get confused (can't honestly remember what rsync does when you pass it / otoh) |
| 14:10.27 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync -ravPptgo --exclude /mnt / /mnt |
| 14:10.31 | TyrfingMjolnir | How does D work? |
| 14:10.50 | bmr | TyrfingMjolnir, 'a' sets all those options |
| 14:10.59 | bmr | TyrfingMjolnir, there is no need to write them out. |
| 14:11.04 | jelly | bmr: there's no need to do that, just provide a tail / to both source and destination. My idiom: out my idiom rsync -PaHSx /source/ /destination/ |
| 14:11.04 | TyrfingMjolnir | oki |
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| 14:11.12 | jelly | argh. |
| 14:11.15 | bmr | -a -> -rlptgoD, |
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| 14:11.36 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync -avPp --exclude /mnt / /mnt |
| 14:11.38 | bmr | jelly, so source would be //? |
| 14:11.50 | jelly | bmr: just / works |
| 14:12.00 | bmr | TyrfingMjolnir, the 'p' is still implied by -a.. no need to duplicate it |
| 14:12.12 | bmr | jelly, ah, good to know - been years since I pointed rsync at / |
| 14:12.26 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync -avPHS --numeric-ids --exclude /mnt / /mnt |
| 14:12.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | This looks bootable to you? |
| 14:12.38 | bmr | sounds reasonable to me |
| 14:12.41 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: if you do not use -x, you will have to avoid copying the contents of /sys, /proc, /dev and other virtual filesystem mounts |
| 14:12.43 | TyrfingMjolnir | How do I avoid copying /proc? |
| 14:12.47 | TyrfingMjolnir | and /dev? |
| 14:12.50 | bmr | -x :) |
| 14:12.56 | bmr | (assuming your dist makes /dev a devtmpfs) |
| 14:12.59 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: multiple --exclude are allowed |
| 14:13.08 | bmr | I supposed I should be assuming that's Debian here :) |
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| 14:13.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync -xavPHS --numeric-ids --exclude /mnt / /mnt |
| 14:13.23 | TyrfingMjolnir | OK, I will try |
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| 14:13.48 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: if you use -x there's no need to exclude /mnt as it's already a separate mountpoint |
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| 14:14.18 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync -xavPHS --numeric-ids / /mnt |
| 14:14.50 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: right |
| 14:14.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | Perfect |
| 14:15.07 | TyrfingMjolnir | pulling down the VDI now |
| 14:15.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | Will be down in 5 hours |
| 14:15.21 | TyrfingMjolnir | Thank you! |
| 14:15.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | But I will have to make the same folders that I make when I debootstrap on /mnt, right? |
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| 14:16.25 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: you can do an initial rsync in advance, then at downtime repeat it with --delete added and it will sync just the changes, shortening the downtime |
| 14:16.26 | TyrfingMjolnir | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:16.57 | TyrfingMjolnir | Ohh this is a copy I already made |
| 14:17.08 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: then add --delete right away |
| 14:17.18 | TyrfingMjolnir | --delete what? |
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| 14:17.24 | jelly | to rsync options |
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| 14:17.36 | TyrfingMjolnir | ahh |
| 14:17.37 | TyrfingMjolnir | oki |
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| 14:17.54 | TyrfingMjolnir | rsync -xavPHS --delete --numeric-ids / /mnt |
| 14:18.05 | petn-randall | TyrfingMjolnir: It will still be unbootable unless you fix dozens of things. Any reason you want to do a copy of the system like this? |
| 14:18.24 | TyrfingMjolnir | 3.8GB of data |
| 14:18.28 | TyrfingMjolnir | image is 138GB |
| 14:18.37 | TyrfingMjolnir | I would like to turn it into a template VM |
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| 14:18.50 | jelly | TyrfingMjolnir: it makes a lot of sense to do a file-based copy in this case, yes |
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| 14:19.22 | jelly | you can make the template tiny |
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| 14:23.21 | TyrfingMjolnir | petn-randall: Which things? |
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| 14:26.04 | colo-work | hm. where does corosync persists its resource configuration to? |
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| 14:31.48 | leafwiz__ | Hello, I think i derped my debian install. I wanted to have lvm on raid on boot partition. But I need lilo then? |
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| 14:32.29 | leafwiz__ | So in need to load that package at startup of the installer when asked about loading extra modules? |
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| 14:36.04 | jelly | colo-work: probably better to ask in #linux-ha |
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| 14:36.39 | colo-work | hm yeah, I was thinking the path (if any) might be Debian-specific :) |
| 14:36.48 | colo-work | but I will do that and ask there |
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| 14:37.04 | alreece45 | leafwiz__I just did my first install with /boot on an lvm volume; grub2 can work with it. I'm not sure how far that functionality extends. |
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| 14:37.50 | MrAlexandro | i have 12 debian vm's and would like to shrink the virtual drives. I think the only way to do so now that the diskspace is allocated is to clone the disks over to smaller disks. is there a great software to do that in |
| 14:37.57 | leafwiz__ | alreece45: yeah. I use wheezy. Unsure of which grub i use. Seemed not to find the lvm volumes |
| 14:38.45 | leafwiz__ | alreece45: the tut said to use lilo, but I didn't get the option to choose it.. |
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| 14:39.53 | jelly | MrAlexandro: making the VM disks sparse ("thin-provisioned") will probably be a VM solution-specific problem |
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| 14:40.38 | MrAlexandro | jelly i agree, but i would just like to know what you would do with physical disks if lets say you moved from a 1tb os disk to a 128gb ssd. of cource considering usage of the os disk is within the limits |
| 14:40.43 | alreece45 | leafwiz__: does grub finish loading? (does it load itself and show a menu) |
| 14:41.28 | MrAlexandro | jelly. is there an easy way to perform the migration within gpartet or should i opt for a solution from acronis or paragon for instance |
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| 14:41.58 | jelly | MrAlexandro: I'd zero the empty space within the VM, then do storage migration to thin provisioning in vsphere client |
| 14:42.06 | leafwiz__ | alreece45: yes |
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| 14:42.16 | jelly | MrAlexandro: but you probably don't have vSphere |
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| 14:42.50 | jelly | MrAlexandro: how much space is actually used? |
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| 14:43.27 | MrAlexandro | jelly no im using workstation at my homeserver. at school we use vsphere and vcenter. space used 10gb space designated 20 gb |
| 14:43.45 | sakang | I'm wondering if someone would know why the initrd img in deb/sid is about 2x bigger than a cb/sid and deb/jessie on the same box. this is a compiled kernel in deb/jessie |
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| 14:45.04 | jelly | MrAlexandro: with just 10GB, you can probably survive downtime for shrinking the original filesystem, then shrinking the partition, then shrinking the disk |
| 14:45.30 | jelly | MrAlexandro: gparted can do the first two |
| 14:46.02 | jelly | MrAlexandro: needless to say, verify you have working backups before messing with gparted |
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| 14:46.16 | jelly | shrinking is not done too often |
| 14:46.30 | MrAlexandro | jelly I tried shrinking and then moving it to a smaller (12gb) virtual disk. however i am not getting the bootloader or something is missing |
| 14:46.40 | MrAlexandro | the other disk wont boot |
| 14:47.00 | jelly | MrAlexandro: how did you move? |
| 14:47.21 | MrAlexandro | i copied all the partititons in gparted. the disk, the swap and the small part at the beginning |
| 14:47.45 | jelly | MrAlexandro: well, that means you didn't move the boot loader part that resides outside the partitions |
| 14:48.02 | MrAlexandro | pls tell me how to do that :p |
| 14:48.09 | jelly | MrAlexandro: boot a rescue/livecd/installer and reinstall the boot loader |
| 14:48.15 | MrAlexandro | oh |
| 14:48.19 | MrAlexandro | that simple |
| 14:48.28 | MrAlexandro | will try!! |
| 14:48.38 | MrAlexandro | thank you :) |
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| 14:49.49 | MrAlexandro | jelly: you think there will be sideeffects? like will it eternally search for the old disk or will the livecd install of bootloader reset it |
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| 14:51.00 | jelly | MrAlexandro: if you install it again on /dev/sda things will hopefully Just Work |
| 14:51.09 | MrAlexandro | ok |
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| 14:57.03 | leafwiz__ | ? |
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| 15:44.45 | Lis | hi everyone |
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| 15:47.05 | justanotheruser | Guys, "sudo grub-install" is taking over 10 hours. When I boot debian it says it can't find my volume group. What do you recommend? |
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| 15:57.42 | stark` | what kind of precaution should i take after adding backports and how should i handle system upgrades ? |
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| 15:58.52 | jelly | stark`: since backports do not get installed automatically, you only have to worry about those packages you explicitely pull from there yourself |
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| 16:00.13 | stark` | jelly: so that backported package won't break normal packages and libraries i.e if they have critical bugs ? |
| 16:00.20 | stark` | *the |
| 16:00.41 | jelly | that is the idea, but still mistakes can happen |
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| 16:02.20 | stark` | ok thanks i don't use backports for everything just the necessary ones |
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| 16:08.42 | jhutchins | stark`: Backports only install requested packages and dependencies, they won't affect a system upgrade. |
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| 16:09.24 | jhutchins | stark`: The system's been pretty smooth for me since etch. |
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| 16:10.41 | centrx | yeah individual leaf packages and their dependencies work well for it |
| 16:11.07 | centrx | If sysvinit and libc6 were backported, there might be some serious problems |
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| 16:11.37 | jhutchins | centrx: That's a release, not a backport. |
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| 16:17.48 | jelly | jhutchins: still there's a backport for a compatible /sbin/init alternative. A backport of sysvinit would not be that bad as long as it was feature worthwhile and fully backwards compatible. |
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| 16:29.15 | centrx | jhutchins, touche |
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| 16:29.46 | stark` | and which is better upgrade or dist-upgrade ? |
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| 16:32.39 | somiaj | Still trying to figure out why my wirless card will not stay assoicated with AP's on a large guest network (such as a university). I have tried three different cards and they all have the same issue, they don't keep assoicated with the AP and thus I cannot get a dhcp response or an ip on the network. |
| 16:33.23 | somiaj | stark`: it depends on what you are doing. read the man page for the difference. For stable you should only ever need upgrade. For testing/unstable or going from one stable to another you need a dist-upgrade. I personally on my testing/unstable boxes run an upgrade followed by a dist-upgrade |
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| 16:33.38 | somiaj | the difference is upgrade will not install or remove packages to resolve dependencies while dist-upgrade will |
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| 16:35.43 | stark` | thanks somiaj and i know the basic differences but i need to know the practical ones as in has dist-upgrade ever brought any harm to stable ? whats the worst case situation ? |
| 16:36.06 | stark` | also you may need to swap out nm for wicd |
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| 16:36.39 | somiaj | stark`: stable is frozen, as such there should not be dependcies that will add/remove packages from your current configuration |
| 16:37.22 | somiaj | stark`: so for a stable system upgrade will do all you need and not be a problem unless you have unoffical third party repos. But even those should be properly made if you trust them to work against a frozen stable release |
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| 16:38.07 | stark` | hmm ok thanks got that clearly :D |
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| 16:40.24 | somiaj | as for my problem, I prefer to do everything with the interfaces file. But both interfaces file and wicd have the same issue. Haven't tried nm as I don't use a desktop and don't want all extra dependencies |
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| 16:51.54 | edoardo | Hello. I'm on debian, fresh install, and lxpanel is doing this |
| 16:52.04 | edoardo | http://osdir.com/ml/general/2014-08/msg49589.html |
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| 16:52.33 | edoardo | It never did that, even before reinstalling Debian (and there wasn't any update in the middle). |
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| 17:06.03 | somiaj | edoardo: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 17:07.36 | edoardo | somiaj: jessie |
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| 17:09.36 | somiaj | edoardo: there have been many updates in jessie probabaly since your last install, so this is probably a new bug. I can't test it myself, but do you have an actual debian bug report for this? |
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| 17:10.05 | edoardo | somiaj: i can't find it |
| 17:10.13 | edoardo | so i guess there isn't any |
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| 17:10.39 | edoardo | when ran from the console, i get "segmentation fault" as an error |
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| 17:12.45 | somiaj | edoardo: is the bug you linked an upstream bug, if so I don't know if reporting it to debian would be needed. Hopefully it gets fixed and into jessie before the freeze. (: |
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| 17:14.37 | edoardo | somiaj: hope it's fixed, since it's really annoying |
| 17:14.41 | edoardo | thank you anyway! |
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| 17:18.39 | somiaj | edoardo: well you can double check the debian bts and if you can't find a bug report one. This may be useful because maybe if upstream doesn't fix it debian might for the jessie release. |
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| 17:24.53 | edoardo | somiaj: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=759554 |
| 17:24.54 | edoardo | :) |
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| 17:26.28 | somiaj | edoardo: looks like it already has been fixed upstream, might have to wait a few weeks for it to get to jessie |
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| 17:28.02 | edoardo | perfect :) |
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| 17:32.16 | Z1T1TTT | Failed to execute child process "gnome-control-center" (No such file or directory) |
| 17:32.28 | Z1T1TTT | I try to setup wallpaper and it fails |
| 17:33.11 | somiaj | Z1T1TTT: how did you try to setup the wall paper, what de are you using? sounds like you are trying to use a tool that requires gnome-control-center but you don't have it installed. |
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| 17:34.20 | Z1T1TTT | somiaj: it just that when i right click on desktop i get soemthing else now, i dont know what i did. but the old menu is not there anymore |
| 17:34.43 | Z1T1TTT | I was trying to use gThumb now to setup the wallpaper |
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| 17:34.59 | somiaj | Z1T1TTT: what desktop do you use? |
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| 17:35.15 | Z1T1TTT | LXDE |
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| 17:36.38 | Z1T1TTT | somiaj: |
| 17:38.21 | somiaj | Z1T1TTT: that is your issue, you are trying to use a gnome tool to change the wallpaper on an LXDE desktop. You should use the LXDE tools, I would assume there is a setting in the control pannel somewhere (I don't use lxde myself so I wouldn't know where it is) |
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| 17:39.05 | Z1T1TTT | somiaj: it worked fine before by doing right click on the desktop. now , for some unknown reason, the right click menu is different |
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| 17:39.28 | somiaj | Z1T1TTT: what version of debian do you run? |
| 17:39.47 | Z1T1TTT | wheezy |
| 17:39.54 | Z1T1TTT | somiaj: |
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| 17:40.36 | somiaj | this is very strange, did you install some gnome tools recentally to try to fix your lxde issue, wonder if you loaded up into a different de on accident. |
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| 17:41.01 | Z1T1TTT | somiaj: nope, no other desktop |
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| 17:42.01 | jpinx | Z1T1TTT: are you getting the window manager menu ? |
| 17:42.25 | Z1T1TTT | jpinx: u mean when i right click the desktop? |
| 17:42.36 | jpinx | Z1T1TTT: yes |
| 17:42.48 | Z1T1TTT | jpinx: yes i get a different menu then before |
| 17:43.22 | jpinx | Z1T1TTT: you need to reconfig lxde to show it's own menu - not the window manager |
| 17:43.44 | Z1T1TTT | jpinx: how to reconfigure lxde? |
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| 17:46.11 | jpinx | Z1T1TTT: years since I did that -- there's a config option in the menu I believe |
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| 17:46.40 | Z1T1TTT | jpinx: ok ill check it out |
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| 17:51.16 | Artemis3 | Z1T1TTT, next time right click the desktop :P |
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| 17:51.59 | Artemis3 | and gthumb is a bad tool to put into an lxde desktop |
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| 18:00.57 | level7 | hi all...I have a NAT question which is not so simple as it looks like... The problem is the following. The linux box has 1 WAN Public IP and 1 LAN private 192.168.0.0/24 network. The thing is that if I do a simple destination-nat I see the packet getting into the linux box toward the 192.168.0.0/4 net but thje packets still have the public IP address... what I would like to see is that all packets coming from the internet, will be mapped into the 192.168.0.X |
| 18:00.58 | level7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.23 | level7 | with a simple destination nat, the IP source is still the public IP address.. which is not what I want. |
| 18:01.30 | level7 | any suggestion ? |
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| 18:03.22 | tremon | level7: you need masquerading for that. But why would you want to masquerade the entire internet? |
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| 18:04.49 | user187 | hi people I have an odd problem My default gateway and broadcast keep changing from 197.168.0.1 197.168.0.255 TO 197.168.1.1 197.168.1.255 and I can't find the cause. |
| 18:05.21 | level7 | well.. the device I am trying to reach has a different default gw.. therefore when it sees packets from the public internet it is using the "wrong" gateway... |
| 18:05.22 | tremon | user187: 197? |
| 18:05.58 | level7 | so what I need is that the device thinks I am on the local lan... and to do that the source IP of my "internet packets" should look like local 192.168.0.0/24 |
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| 18:06.41 | karlpinc | user187: I don't suppose that you've more than one dhcp server supplying different numbers? Is there more than one interface? |
| 18:06.51 | user187 | sorry 192 |
| 18:07.10 | user187 | karlpinc: no only eth0 |
| 18:07.13 | tremon | level7: it should work, but your router may run out of memory with a lot of traffic going to your server |
| 18:07.21 | zleap | ok sort of fixed, i just ran md5sum file.iso and checked it visually |
| 18:07.30 | level7 | no it's just to connect locally to that thing |
| 18:08.13 | karlpinc | I've checked out the upstream moinmoin and am trying to run py.test. I get this: http://paste.debian.net/121000/ Is there some other package should be installing besides "pytest"? What's wrong here? |
| 18:08.16 | level7 | so what I need is: I am on the public internet e.g. 9.9.9.9 is my public address, then I have the WAN public IP of the linux box which is 16.16.16.16 and then the private 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 18:08.53 | level7 | the thing is that my 9.9.9.9 shoul be reach the 192.168.0.X which the private 192.168.0.0/24 address (the linux box has 192.168.0.7 for example) |
| 18:08.55 | karlpinc | user187: I suppose you could pastebin your interfaces file. |
| 18:09.09 | user187 | it's currently 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.255 but it should be 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.255 |
| 18:09.28 | user187 | karlpinc: what exactly do you want me to pastebin, what output? |
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| 18:09.46 | karlpinc | user187: The content of /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 18:09.58 | level7 | that's why I need to "masquerade" also the damn public IP.. or that device will not use the "right" gateway (the gateway I want) |
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| 18:10.46 | level7 | so the use case is: I want to access to a local device that has the wrong gateway via a public IP (that's why I need to masquerade my public IP). |
| 18:11.00 | tremon | level7: have you tried solving it with a static route? i.e. ip route add 192.168.0.0/24 via $internal_address_of_16.16.16.16 |
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| 18:12.01 | tremon | hmm, that may not work if the 9.9.9.9 and 16.16.16.16 can't reach each other locally |
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| 18:12.29 | level7 | I cannot reach that damn device.. or it wouldd be easy... so I really need that the linux box will "proxy" all my packets, in the sense that when I reach the public IP of the linux box, all packets will be on the 192.168.0.0/24 network |
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| 18:12.53 | BBBG | Hello |
| 18:13.03 | BBBG | Anyone can help me with some issue? |
| 18:13.14 | karlpinc | !ask |
| 18:13.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 18:13.44 | level7 | with the destination nat what I get is that the damn 192.168.0.0 still sees my public IP as source so it tries to reply to that source and that means that that device will use its WRONG gateway....instead if everything will be locally translated (192.168.0.0) I can reach that device |
| 18:13.46 | BBBG | !ask -bash vit: command not found what i need to do? |
| 18:14.24 | karlpinc | BBBG: What do you expect the 'vit' command to do? |
| 18:14.24 | BBBG | !ask |
| 18:14.25 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:14.41 | karlpinc | BBBG: You're talking to the bot. |
| 18:14.47 | tremon | level7: the keyword is still masquerade. Just remember that all howto's you will find will tell you how to do a default masq on the outgoing interface, whereas you want a conditional masq on an internal interface |
| 18:15.01 | level7 | yes.. it looks like |
| 18:15.03 | BBBG | downloading a tar file |
| 18:15.35 | tremon | you already have a prerouting rule for the dnat, simply add a matching postrouting rule |
| 18:15.42 | karlpinc | level7: FWIW, I prefer working with ferm rather than directly with iptables. It's just syntatic sugar but I like it. |
| 18:16.32 | BBBG | @ |
| 18:16.37 | BBBG | karlpinc |
| 18:16.44 | BBBG | may you help me? |
| 18:16.46 | karlpinc | BBBG: Well, there's lots of ways to download files. Do you really need to use 'vit'? |
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| 18:16.58 | karlpinc | BBBG: Patience. |
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| 18:17.28 | BBBG | yes i just need download a file from a url |
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| 18:18.04 | karlpinc | BBBG: It's telling you that you have no 'vit' command. You could use wget instead. 'aptitude install wget' will install that if it's not installed already. |
| 18:18.08 | level7 | it worked... just had to change my mind :) |
| 18:18.47 | BBBG | can you show me example how to download from a url like parameters |
| 18:18.56 | karlpinc | BBBG: If you want to find the vit command and install it you could find it via packages.debian.org (or other ways.) |
| 18:19.19 | karlpinc | BBBG: wget http://www.example.com/foo.tar |
| 18:19.34 | BBBG | ty |
| 18:19.46 | BBBG | oh srry i was confused |
| 18:19.52 | BBBG | i meant to edit a file |
| 18:19.59 | BBBG | not downloading file |
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| 18:20.57 | karlpinc | BBBG: Then you need to pick an editor. Most people who are serious will use either vi or emacs. It's a religious issue. I prefer emacs myself. But you could use nano if you like. |
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| 18:21.50 | BBBG | well im newibe i don't know what you mean by this, i just want to edit a file and change some value |
| 18:22.27 | karlpinc | BBBG: If you're only going to edit one file, use nano. Read the bottom of the screen. Otherwise, learn to use a real editor. |
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| 18:26.42 | stillimmortal | help |
| 18:26.46 | fragtastic | BBBG, would be a good idea to take a look at this as well https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/index.en.html |
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| 18:32.50 | asterismo | hi people |
| 18:33.24 | asterismo | i need help with something, i think i'm having a DDoS attack and i'm trying to understand some output from netstat, where is the right channel to ask this? |
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| 18:39.54 | ompaul | asterismo: can you install jnettop ? |
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| 19:06.10 | WilliamWS | hi people |
| 19:06.22 | WilliamWS | Why there is not a power group ijna fresh Debain instalation? |
| 19:06.41 | WilliamWS | in a* |
| 19:06.58 | ompaul | what is a power group - like wheel in BSD? |
| 19:07.30 | WilliamWS | I just can not use the XFCE GUI to power the computer off |
| 19:07.49 | ompaul | by the way it is Debian after Debbie and Ian |
| 19:08.12 | WilliamWS | Oh sorry. |
| 19:08.14 | WilliamWS | Debian* |
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| 19:08.17 | ompaul | no idea I don't use XFCE :) |
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| 19:08.28 | ompaul | what version of debian |
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| 19:08.39 | WilliamWS | whezzy |
| 19:08.48 | ompaul | two e one z |
| 19:09.00 | WilliamWS | wheezy* |
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| 19:10.21 | WilliamWS | There is any equivalent group to the power group? |
| 19:10.26 | ompaul | do this usermod -a -G power username |
| 19:10.33 | ompaul | it might help |
| 19:10.34 | WilliamWS | I want to be able to turn the computer off with a particular user |
| 19:10.39 | centrx | the superpower group! |
| 19:10.53 | tremon | WilliamWS: there is, but being able to turn of the computer isn't controlled by a power user group |
| 19:11.01 | ompaul | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png |
| 19:11.14 | WilliamWS | tremon, so how debian does this? |
| 19:11.24 | ompaul | just seemed like exactly the wrong thing |
| 19:11.28 | tremon | debian does have an adm group, but by default it only has access to system log files |
| 19:11.30 | ompaul | the right time |
| 19:11.48 | WilliamWS | ompaul you made the same research as me and ended up in the same forum. |
| 19:11.55 | WilliamWS | this link is from there... |
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| 19:12.29 | msrsp | Hey people, gd'afternoon |
| 19:12.29 | tremon | WilliamWS: normally, any (local) user should be able to power down the machine. I don't use xfce, but this is normally handled by consolekit and/or your display manager (graphical login) |
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| 19:13.05 | WilliamWS | tremon, I do not care if this is not done by the xfce gui, I jsut want to be able as normal suer to halt the machine. |
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| 19:14.18 | msrsp | I have two systems installed on a drive and they're essentialy the same (regarding purpose and installed packages). One is 32-bit and the other is 64-bit. Does anyone see any downsides to using a single shared /etc folder? |
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| 19:14.59 | msrsp | Just /etc, not any other folders. |
| 19:15.21 | msrsp | Although, I was just thinking of /etc/init.d and rc*.d and those would be a real problem |
| 19:15.41 | msrsp | I was just trying to centralize the configuration for the services and packages. |
| 19:15.54 | tremon | WilliamWS: on my machines, I do this via sudo: something like "WilliamWS ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/poweroff" in /etc/sudoers.d/$file should do it. Be sure to use sudoedit, it's really easy to lock yourself out if you make a typo in /etc/sudoers |
| 19:16.31 | tremon | (or preferably, use sudo -s, and test your modifications in a separate shell) |
| 19:17.19 | tremon | msrsp: if there are library paths configured in /etc (e.g. for plugins), the paths will likely be different |
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| 19:17.49 | msrsp | yeah, that's what I thought of, specially regarding initialization scripts |
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| 19:18.08 | msrsp | but having the chance to centralize that would be awesome. |
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| 19:18.55 | msrsp | thing is: I have a rescue 32GB flash drive that I use with two persistent systems on it: one 32-bit and the other 64-bit, to be able to rescue different machines. |
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| 19:19.10 | upwardindex | Why does /sbin/dhclient-script flush all ip addresses from interface when it times out? It’s pretty naughty since it also flushes avahi-autoipd’s IP |
| 19:19.27 | msrsp | it has grub installed, it's great. only problem is keeping both systems sync'ed. |
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| 19:19.36 | perastikos | hello all, anyone here working for gemalto? |
| 19:19.38 | WilliamWS | tremon, thank you for the help. Well I will stick to sudo, but I am nor a lover of sudo. |
| 19:19.43 | msrsp | i use a shared /home with an encrypted account so that works well |
| 19:20.52 | ompaul | WilliamWS: true |
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| 19:30.31 | Z1T1TTT | I have an external hdd that i plan to use on both, windows and debian. should i make it ntfs or exFat ? |
| 19:31.21 | upwardindex | How to only flush IP address that has no label? |
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| 19:31.56 | tremon | "flush" an ip address? |
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| 19:32.49 | t4nk836 | hi |
| 19:32.49 | upwardindex | tremon: `ip -4 addr flush dev eth0` |
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| 19:33.49 | tremon | hmm, I'm not familiar with ip addr flush. What does it do? |
| 19:34.02 | upwardindex | tremon: the problem is that dhclient flushes avahi-autoipd’s but it’s just trying to flush it’s own ip |
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| 19:34.18 | somiaj | Z1T1TTT: vfat would be the most compadable, but I think ntfs support is better than exFat in wheezy. |
| 19:34.33 | t4nk836 | I am on my Beaglebone Black revC using debian |
| 19:34.36 | upwardindex | tremon: removes the ip from the interface |
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| 19:35.20 | tremon | upwardindex: ah, then use ip addr del $ip/$mask dev ethN |
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| 19:35.59 | somiaj | Z1T1TTT: looks like exfat-fuse is available in wheezy, so for either ntfs or exfat you will be using the drivers over fuse. I think ntfs are a bit more mature, but either would work. vfat would be the easiest and not require additional packages. |
| 19:36.01 | t4nk836 | Will 'flash' work on this and play Youtube ? Is it a waste of time trying ? |
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| 19:37.09 | somiaj | t4nk836: the debian flash plugins they install via adobe are only i386 and amd64 packages so it won't work on arm processors. I am unsure how well gnash would work though. |
| 19:37.11 | tremon | t4nk836: I don't think adobe bothers with flash versions for arm. Maybe gnash or lightspark does, but I prefer youtube-dl and mplayer |
| 19:37.23 | Z1T1TTT | somiaj: ok thx |
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| 19:38.41 | tremon | Z1T1TTT: keep in mind that fat32 has a 4GB filesize limit |
| 19:39.30 | somiaj | it also has a partition size limit, wasn't it like 2TB with that? |
| 19:39.32 | upwardindex | tremon: interesting, i think i’ll be able to fix it with that, thank you for the help |
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| 19:40.28 | t4nk836 | thanks ! |
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| 19:40.39 | somiaj | I'll ask this question again. My wireless card (Actually been three different cards on two computers) won't stay assoicated with the open wifi network at my university and also has trouble at hotels. What do I need to do to help keep the wireless card assoicated with the AP? |
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| 19:40.47 | teraflops | t4nk836: for the rpi yutube-dl ytp peerflix peertv yify.py ... and so on |
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| 19:41.28 | perastikos | maybe your open network disconnects all clients every hour? |
| 19:41.46 | perastikos | are you sure its your fault and not the AP? |
| 19:41.56 | somiaj | perastikos: it won't even stay assoicated long enough to get a dhcp response. And since all my students windows/macs don't have this issue. |
| 19:42.07 | perastikos | ok i see |
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| 19:42.19 | perastikos | your card is pci/usb? |
| 19:42.27 | somiaj | perastikos: I first blamed my crappy relatek wifi card, but have had the same issue with a realtek, linksys usb dongle and now my new laptops intel wifi card, and usually the intel drivers are solid |
| 19:42.33 | perastikos | do you have an antenna? |
| 19:43.07 | joelpet_ | I have a Samba share that I'd like to mount and use as backup destination (in a backupninja setup on my Debian server). However I can't seem to mount.cifs it without giving every user on the mounting system access to it. I'd like only root to be able to access it. Is that possible? Thank you. (I tried sending this before, but I believed it failed. If it did actually send, I apologize for the spam.) |
| 19:43.08 | t4nk836 | thanks !! |
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| 19:43.19 | perastikos | far fetched but is your usb ports ok? |
| 19:43.33 | somiaj | perastikos: nope just what is inside the laptop. My office mates have no problem on their machine, my andriod phone has no problem sstay connected |
| 19:43.42 | somiaj | perastikos: the problem has persisted on two different laptops |
| 19:43.48 | perastikos | hmmm |
| 19:44.11 | somiaj | and when I look at iwconfig wlan0 when I either lost internet or wouldn't get dhcp, it is always it looses assoication with the AP |
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| 19:44.27 | perastikos | somiaj you should try a usb dongle that someone else has and is working ok on this AP. just to be sure |
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| 19:44.34 | somiaj | and the problem never happens on any home private network via either wpa or wep...and I can't seem to get any google hits on this. |
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| 19:45.07 | perastikos | somiaj windows laptop? |
| 19:45.10 | sfdebug | hi, i would like to install postfix package without run the config script that is prompted on the shell... does any one have idea how to do this? |
| 19:45.18 | somiaj | the same laptop has no issues in windows with either the dongle or the internal wifi card. I dont' have this one set up to dual boot so I can't check it in windows, but I would assume the issue is only with linux like my previouis laptop |
| 19:45.46 | perastikos | somiaj ok, so its just on linux, do you have a firewall on linux? |
| 19:45.50 | somiaj | sfdebug: what do you mean? You don't want to run debconf or you want to avoid ruing the post/pre install scripts. That can usually be bad |
| 19:46.46 | somiaj | perastikos: nope, I do not have a firewall. As i said my laptop works fine on private networks. It is the large open guest network that it hasn't been able to work on. I was hoping this was only gonna be a problem due to my old cheap crapy laptop. But my new intel based laptop has the same issue and I don't have wired access everywhere I need it. I do have wired acces in most places though. |
| 19:47.18 | sfdebug | somiaj: when i install postfix, it gives to me some menus in terminal, but i dont want to run it to configure, because the config files i have they alrady and i'll just do a copy from these files... i'm creating a script to autotize that... |
| 19:47.20 | somiaj | the intel is slightly better, but still I sometimes I have to say connect 5-6 times before it stays assoicated |
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| 19:47.38 | petn-randall | sfdebug: Set the debconf level to 'critical' then, you won't be asked. |
| 19:47.42 | perastikos | somiaj did you do any tweaks on your linux? security patches, kernel addons, modules etc? |
| 19:48.18 | mechanicalduck | hi |
| 19:48.24 | mechanicalduck | So I got Debian Wheezy and set up timezone to CEST. |
| 19:48.27 | somiaj | sfdebug: okay this is done via debconf, you can as petn-randall said change the level of questions but debconf will still run. If you have a config file there is will copy/make a backup of it or ask if you want to keep it. |
| 19:48.28 | mechanicalduck | But date command and system date is messed up: Correct date/time: 21:46 15.09.2014 System date (although CEST is correct): 00:18 28.07.2014 |
| 19:48.30 | mechanicalduck | I already did a sync using ntpdate. |
| 19:48.45 | somiaj | perastikos: nope, default wheezy install on my old laptop, this one is jessie, but the issue is the same |
| 19:48.53 | petn-randall | mechanicalduck: Is it a VM? |
| 19:49.34 | somiaj | perastikos: I can paste some wicd logs if you are intersted, but really it always fails at the dhcp request (both dhclient and dhcpcd fail) and the issue is the wifi card looses assoication as I can watch it by looking at iwconfig wlan0 |
| 19:49.38 | mechanicalduck | petn-randall: yup |
| 19:49.41 | perastikos | somiaj i m sorry, i dont have any usefull advice, i believe its a driver instability |
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| 19:49.51 | mechanicalduck | petn-randall: hm, so it could be the simulated hw clock? |
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| 19:49.54 | sfdebug | let me see... |
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| 19:50.06 | mechanicalduck | I go into bios and see what is set up there. |
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| 19:50.11 | petn-randall | mechanicalduck: Then the virtualization solution is set up wrong and ticking the clock back again, check the manual to that. |
| 19:50.17 | sfdebug | have any way to set to critical without use the interface? |
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| 19:50.37 | somiaj | perastikos: when it was my crapy realtek card that was my conclusion (that driver would also crash my whole kernel if I pushed it to hard). But this new intel iwlwifi card I'm surprised is having that issue too. Makes me wonder if windows does anything special to help it stay assoicated. |
| 19:50.54 | somiaj | though this new card once I get it assoicated and an ip it works, my old card would randomally drop. |
| 19:51.02 | petn-randall | mechanicalduck: Usually the OS selection must be set to Linux so it passes the time through as UTC. Windows expects the BIOS clock to be local time. |
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| 19:51.11 | perastikos | somiaj i had some strange trouble with an old laptop and intel wifi connecting to a huawei adsl router |
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| 19:51.25 | perastikos | the problem was that they could not get more than 2 mbps speed |
| 19:51.47 | perastikos | and it was the intels problem |
| 19:52.01 | perastikos | so i dont have any high opinion about intel wifi :) |
| 19:52.12 | mechanicalduck | petn-randall: during debian installation I was asked about this (wasn't unattended/preseed) and I answered with UTC hw clock. |
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| 19:53.42 | somiaj | perastikos: http://paste.debian.net/121033/ -- as you see it won't assoicate with an ap. I can sometimes coach it to assoicate by running 'iwconfig wlan0 ap any' multiple times, took me 3 tries and it assoicated, sometimes it takes me 10+ tries and still won't work. My old reltek drivers were far less relaiable, but it is just annoying and I would like to use wireless on campus |
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| 19:54.21 | somiaj | perastikos: the other thing that always gets me is I never have any issue on a single router/AP secure network. I don't use to many but the 10 I have used never gave me an issue once. It is only the large open network and forcing the wifi card to assoicate with an AP |
| 19:54.59 | somiaj | but in this case now that I'm assoicated I can manually run dhclient to get an ip, but makes automated ways not work, no wicd or interfaces file presets, I have to play with voodoo |
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| 19:56.26 | sfdebug | is there anyway to configure the priority level without via prompt? |
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| 19:58.17 | valdyn | sfdebug: priority of what? |
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| 19:59.01 | somiaj | sfdebug: yea it cna be set from a command line flag I would imangine. |
| 19:59.16 | perastikos | somiaj? |
| 19:59.29 | perastikos | somiaj i think your wifi tx power is too low |
| 19:59.34 | perastikos | 16 dbm |
| 19:59.49 | perastikos | you should set it manually to 20 |
| 20:00.11 | perastikos | normal wifi cards have 100mw or 20 dbm |
| 20:00.26 | mechanicalduck | so I rebooted it after ntp and now the date/time is correct |
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| 20:02.09 | somiaj | perastikos: oh I didn't know this could be set, I just let it default. Where would I set this, via iwconfig? |
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| 20:02.28 | perastikos | iwconfig wlan0 txpower 20 |
| 20:02.53 | perastikos | next time that you connect to the open wifi check your tcpower |
| 20:02.54 | somiaj | sfdebug: hmm, actually I'm not seeing any way except 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf', now this edits a config file somewhere, let me see if I can track it down, /etc/debconf.conf didn't seem to have it |
| 20:03.03 | perastikos | and see ifconfig if you have dropped packets |
| 20:03.39 | somiaj | perastikos: I'll look there, usually once it is assoicated with this new card I am fine, but I can see the power keeping that from happining. Wonder if it is one of those centrino powersaving things |
| 20:04.16 | perastikos | somiaj i usually disable all powersaving features from a network wired or wireless card |
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| 20:04.59 | perastikos | i wonder if "Power Management:on" means autoset the txpower or means sleep when idle.... |
| 20:05.01 | somiaj | yea maybe I'll check my bios again |
| 20:05.12 | somiaj | could be an acpi thing |
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| 20:05.49 | perastikos | maybe |
| 20:06.16 | perastikos | i am not a fan of acpi.the only thing i enjoy is shutting the pc off when shutting down windows :) |
| 20:07.28 | petn-randall | mechanicalduck: So it works fine now? |
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| 20:07.46 | mechanicalduck | petn-randall: hm, some testing, but it seems to be ok now |
| 20:07.49 | sfdebug | somiaj and petn-randall, thanks, i got it doing this: DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical apt-get install postfix |
| 20:07.50 | mechanicalduck | gyp bitched about it |
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| 20:07.59 | sfdebug | :) |
| 20:08.04 | mechanicalduck | it tried to compile over and over again because of the wrong date/time (future) |
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| 20:08.54 | somiaj | sfdebug: yea I was just gonna metion you can use an env variable like that, seems you could also edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf |
| 20:09.15 | sfdebug | somiaj: thanks for the help :) |
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| 20:10.03 | somiaj | sfdebug: you might want to check the manpage debconf(7) - doesn't seem installed by default but I found it on the interwebs. It has a whole section about unattened package installation. |
| 20:10.28 | somiaj | this way you can actually provide the answers to the questions debconf might ask as opposed to hoping you don't have any only critical config options. |
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| 20:10.58 | yids | I was reading this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html#s3.3 and then thinking about how I almost always use a netinstall image to install debian. Can it indeed be a risk to use the netinstall and is better to use something else if you want a secure system? |
| 20:11.56 | valdyn | yids: what is "a risk" ? |
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| 20:12.10 | valdyn | yids: talking about "a risk" is pointless |
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| 20:12.37 | perastikos | even full images can be risky if they hack the repository |
| 20:12.38 | yids | okay a risk that you due to some vulnrability in some service or package get your system compromised |
| 20:12.42 | perastikos | as they did on a redhat repo |
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| 20:13.37 | yids | (that happended to the redhat repo?:P) |
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| 20:15.19 | perastikos | yes |
| 20:15.24 | perastikos | some years ago |
| 20:15.29 | perastikos | not the main repo, but a mirror |
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| 20:16.10 | perastikos | even apache repo was hacked :) |
| 20:16.57 | mwillbanks | is it possible to force a previous version of a package to be installed prior to installing an upgrade? aka I want version 1.0.1 if the user wants to install 1.0.2 |
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| 20:17.11 | somiaj | perastikos: well this card won't seem to let me set the power above 16 (as that is the max allowed). But that gives me a clue, I'll look into the power saving features and the actual power it needs |
| 20:17.28 | perastikos | 16 sounds too low |
| 20:17.29 | yids | but okay so repos can be hacked, but how I interpet what is in the securing debian howto is, you might install a package during installation wich might be vulnerable and your system might be compromised |
| 20:17.41 | somiaj | mwillbanks: what versiono of debian are you running? |
| 20:17.44 | perastikos | somiaj do you know what chipset does your wifi use? |
| 20:18.19 | perastikos | yids i agree, so using netinstall is the least of our problems :) |
| 20:18.21 | somiaj | ,pciid 8086:08b1 |
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| 20:18.23 | judd | [8086:08b1] is 'Wireless 7260' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:08b1 |
| 20:18.41 | mwillbanks | somiaj: trusty (ubuntu) - it's more a general question about packaging really :) |
| 20:18.45 | somiaj | ^^ that one, I had to put jessie on the laptop for this newer machine but iwlwifi works |
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| 20:19.09 | somiaj | mwillbanks: we do not support ubuntu here for social and tech reasons. Please ask in #ubuntu |
| 20:20.21 | mwillbanks | somiaj: yes; well i understand that but this is not a question tied directly to ubuntu; i'm talking about package management and packaging which is not tied to ubuntu directly. |
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| 20:23.10 | perastikos | somiaj? |
| 20:23.18 | perastikos | i think i found the solution |
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| 20:23.20 | perastikos | iwconfig wlan0 power off |
| 20:23.23 | somiaj | mwillbanks: as I said social reasons as well. We support debian only here, please ask in #ubuntu |
| 20:23.35 | somiaj | perastikos: ahh, so that could be limiting it, I'll try |
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| 20:24.09 | yids | perastikos: you mean better make sure packages are not vulnerable or at least not configured in a bad way by default?:P |
| 20:24.19 | somiaj | well turning the power off still won't let me set the power above 16 dBm perastikos |
| 20:24.56 | perastikos | somiaj yes but some people say when they disable power management they get a "solid" wifi connection |
| 20:25.12 | mwillbanks | somiaj: btw i run a mixture of both systems, my desktop is different than my servers but thanks anyways. seems like Pre-Depends might be my solution anyhow. |
| 20:25.13 | perastikos | and i am reading about someone with your card using ubuntu |
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| 20:27.16 | perastikos | i really REALLY hate mosquitos |
| 20:27.22 | perastikos | let the winter come |
| 20:27.28 | somiaj | funny telling it to turn the ap off won't dassoicate, I also find it strange it assoicated with an ap that gives a link of 33/70 but I have closer ones with 44/70 and even one that gives me 52/70 option. |
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| 20:27.31 | perastikos | i hope for 3 meters of snow |
| 20:27.47 | nander | Is this the channel to ask for setup help? |
| 20:28.05 | somiaj | nander: this channell is for general debian help (including setup) what is your actual question. |
| 20:28.25 | nander | I have a small server (for personal use) |
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| 20:28.31 | nander | With two western digital reds of 3 TB |
| 20:28.38 | nander | How do you recommend I set them up using LVM? |
| 20:28.39 | perastikos | somiaj your should dissasociate after changing the power, just to be sure |
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| 20:28.59 | somiaj | perastikos: yea I tried to just turn the ap off, that won't work, time to just bring the whole interface down |
| 20:29.17 | perastikos | nander i recommend a simple mirror if you need backup |
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| 20:29.29 | perastikos | if you need space do a stripe |
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| 20:29.40 | theslow1 | Hello everyone. In debian Jessie, uwsgi-emperor still uses sysv init script instead of SystemD units. |
| 20:29.42 | nander | I also have an SSD in it |
| 20:29.52 | nander | Should I put my home on the HDD or SSD? |
| 20:29.56 | perastikos | nander whats the usage senario? |
| 20:29.57 | nander | I'm gonna put my www docs on the SSD |
| 20:30.02 | nander | Owncloud, samba share |
| 20:30.09 | nander | And maybe some django things |
| 20:30.18 | nander | I'm not that important, so no really huge traffic amounts |
| 20:30.30 | nander | Unless someone wants to (d)dos me |
| 20:30.30 | theslow1 | uwsgi-emperor works, but I would like to use systemd. Should I try to add it to the existing package, or might it be better to add a package uwsgi-systemd-unit for example? |
| 20:30.38 | perastikos | i would say use only the 2 reds, and use the SSD on your windows pc :) |
| 20:30.44 | somiaj | theslow1: that should be fine, systemd is compadable with LSB init scripts and will run them |
| 20:30.50 | nander | My *linux* desktop |
| 20:30.54 | nander | Which already has an ssd ;) |
| 20:30.59 | nander | Unfortunately it runs ubuntu |
| 20:31.05 | nander | Because I couldn't be bothered to reinstall |
| 20:31.22 | perastikos | i think an ssd on a server is a waste |
| 20:31.27 | somiaj | theslow1: jessie will support both, but you may want to file this as a low or wish list bug if you need a systemd unit as opposed to LSB script for it. |
| 20:31.27 | nander | It's an experiment |
| 20:31.30 | perastikos | servers dont have many things to load |
| 20:31.34 | nander | And it's a mx-100 |
| 20:31.37 | nander | Lots of random reads on webpages |
| 20:31.39 | nander | In theory |
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| 20:31.44 | nander | So *in theory* it should be faster |
| 20:31.45 | m0rty | nander, |
| 20:31.45 | m0rty | ops :p |
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| 20:31.56 | perastikos | yes but thats a job for memory |
| 20:32.00 | perastikos | not hdd |
| 20:32.04 | nander | SSD is basically cheap memory |
| 20:32.09 | perastikos | not so cheap :P |
| 20:32.13 | nander | compared to DDR |
| 20:32.24 | perastikos | how much memory do u have? |
| 20:32.27 | nander | .5 eur / GB or ~8 eur / GB |
| 20:32.29 | nander | 4 GB |
| 20:32.30 | Vasistha | I'm having a dns issue on a connection where I'm using static ip / static dns. Is there a way to test a particular name server for a particular domain that I'm having trouble with? |
| 20:32.34 | nander | Splendid for linux, I know |
| 20:32.38 | theslow1 | somiaj: thank you, ill file a wishlist bug |
| 20:32.38 | perastikos | yes |
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| 20:32.48 | nander | If debian stopped running on 4 GB I'm gonna be angry at someone ;) |
| 20:32.48 | somiaj | theslow1: I would assume you could just manually add your own unit and it would work fine, but a bug report might get the attention of the matainer to add it to the actual pacakge (or have the postinst script create it) |
| 20:33.02 | perastikos | nander you can do a mirror and boot from the ssd |
| 20:33.06 | perastikos | classic senario |
| 20:33.42 | nander | That leaves me with 3 extremely fast GB's, right? |
| 20:33.47 | nander | TB* |
| 20:33.56 | perastikos | no |
| 20:34.09 | perastikos | because in mirror mode the 2 reds wont provide more read |
| 20:34.18 | nander | They should (on paper) |
| 20:34.23 | perastikos | no |
| 20:34.26 | nander | Unless the data is checked as well |
| 20:34.28 | perastikos | they just mirror the date |
| 20:34.30 | perastikos | data |
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| 20:34.43 | nander | In theory they could both read from different spots on the disk at once |
| 20:34.44 | perastikos | if you want double the speed you can use stripe |
| 20:35.03 | nander | So - at least on paper - it could be faster |
| 20:35.14 | nander | It'd depend on wether the heads perform the same movements or not |
| 20:35.20 | perastikos | nander you can try it |
| 20:35.21 | m0rty | i have also read that it should improve performance somewhere |
| 20:35.36 | nander | According to my textbooks at least |
| 20:35.52 | nander | Writing speed isn't increased |
| 20:35.55 | perastikos | i have a server in hetzner using 2 disks in mirror and there is no read boost |
| 20:35.55 | nander | Reading should be |
| 20:36.11 | nander | Mind you, not on linear read |
| 20:36.13 | nander | On random read |
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| 20:36.27 | perastikos | hmmmm |
| 20:36.37 | perastikos | i had the idea that in mirror you dont gain speed |
| 20:36.47 | perastikos | in raid 5 you gain speed |
| 20:36.48 | nander | I don't know how it's implemented |
| 20:36.56 | nander | On paper you could increase speed |
| 20:37.00 | nander | Of random reads at least |
| 20:37.12 | nander | But if the heads perform the same movements it doesn't help |
| 20:37.23 | nander | It depends on the implementation |
| 20:37.25 | perastikos | nander i know in stripe mode you can increase speed because data are written in both disks |
| 20:37.31 | nander | True |
| 20:37.37 | perastikos | i mean half on one disk and half on the other |
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| 20:37.40 | nander | Mirror is more complex |
| 20:37.43 | nander | I know what you mean ;) |
| 20:37.46 | perastikos | mirror sucks |
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| 20:37.48 | nander | I did my homework before I came here |
| 20:37.50 | perastikos | as a backup |
| 20:38.07 | nander | I'm here mostly for technical help |
| 20:38.08 | perastikos | cause it only protects against a hw failure |
| 20:38.11 | nander | The tool seems a bit complex |
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| 20:38.26 | perastikos | what tool? |
| 20:38.29 | somiaj | perastikos: intersting, well if I bring the interface up and let it connect with any ap seems to assoicate with an ap (though it seems to pick one with lower connenction) but if I try to force it to use assoicate with the near by ap by using the address it won't assoicate with that ap and then won't assoicate with any other. Wonder if there is some capacity limit the ap's are reaching so I have to use further away ones. |
| 20:38.33 | nander | The one in the net installer |
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| 20:38.56 | perastikos | somiaj maybe! |
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| 20:39.08 | somiaj | perastikos: so maybe that is why wicd is failing, I actually see this wireless network mentioned 4-5 times in the list for each ap that iwlist wlan0 scan finds, and trying to force it to use a paticular one when it is full is making it not work. |
| 20:39.11 | nander | I'm in need of advice on how to set it up so I have striping LVM on my 2 REDS (sdc and sdd) and my OS on sdb |
| 20:39.17 | perastikos | somiaj i wonder how many clients can an AP have |
| 20:39.21 | nander | And maybe even my /home on the HDDs |
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| 20:39.30 | nander | If that's recommended |
| 20:39.34 | nander | If not, then forget I said that |
| 20:39.51 | valdyn | !raid0 |
| 20:39.51 | dpkg | RAID0 is the wrong choice and the worst solution of several options to solve the same problem (see <LVM>). It is also a misnomer, since the R of RAID is for Redundant, and RAID0 isn't. http://bash.org/?854608 . Ask me about <qotd168>. |
| 20:39.54 | nander | By the way, on a personal server, is it recommended to put storage in my /home or in a different folder with different permission |
| 20:39.55 | somiaj | and with everyones cell phones auto connencting to this open network, I'm sure it gets saturated fairly quickly. |
| 20:40.08 | perastikos | nander i recommecd 3 partitions. boot, swap and everything else |
| 20:40.33 | nander | That so the boot partition always has a few MB's to spare? |
| 20:40.39 | nander | so it can always update? |
| 20:40.44 | perastikos | not that |
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| 20:40.50 | greyscale | Whelp, this is the wrong place to ask, but does anyone in here work in C? |
| 20:40.55 | perastikos | something may go wrong when installing new kernel |
| 20:41.07 | nander | And then you can easily move your data? |
| 20:41.07 | somiaj | if you use lvm or encryption you will need a boot partition that is outside of the lvm/encryption/raid to boot from then that will configure the actual filesystems to get into your os. |
| 20:41.22 | nander | By the way, how much speed loss is there when encrypting LVM? |
| 20:41.22 | perastikos | nander yes, and you can try to rescue the system |
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| 20:41.36 | nander | Otherwise you could as well, but it might be a bit more of a fuzz |
| 20:41.42 | nander | I'd just take an ubuntu bootable USB ;) |
| 20:41.45 | valdyn | somiaj: that has not been true for 5 years or more |
| 20:41.49 | nander | Live usb and move it to a 1TB disk |
| 20:42.10 | somiaj | valdyn: I guess I don't keep up on grub, so it can boot directally form inside a lvm/raid? |
| 20:42.16 | nander | My server has about 1 TB (I think) of important data and a lot of data which is there for fun |
| 20:42.19 | nander | Like movies |
| 20:42.20 | valdyn | somiaj: yes |
| 20:42.34 | nander | It'd be annoying to lose them, but not like my own photo collection, etc. |
| 20:42.37 | perastikos | nander irrelevant but check edge of tomorrow :) |
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| 20:42.53 | nander | I'll push it up my to-watch list |
| 20:43.01 | nander | It was already on there, but I'm gonna watch it sooner rather than later |
| 20:43.03 | perastikos | nander the solution is to backup your photo collection to icloud :P |
| 20:43.19 | nander | The idea of this server is to ******* icloud, google and dropbox |
| 20:43.41 | nander | *** them and their stupid policies |
| 20:43.50 | nander | *** the NSA |
| 20:43.59 | perastikos | whats the speed of the line where the server will be? |
| 20:43.59 | nander | oops, I just got put on a wachlist |
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| 20:44.09 | nander | You're gonna cry when I tell you |
| 20:44.20 | perastikos | 2 mbps? |
| 20:44.24 | nander | My home connection is probably the fastest in the channel |
| 20:44.31 | nander | 1 Gbps symmetrical |
| 20:44.39 | perastikos | google fiber? |
| 20:44.41 | slurpymcdurpy | google fibre? or you live in korea? |
| 20:44.44 | nander | university fiber |
| 20:44.52 | nander | I live on the campus of a dutch university |
| 20:44.59 | nander | A bit of googling should tell you more |
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| 20:45.19 | perastikos | so they give 1 gbit per student? or 1 gibit for the whole building? |
| 20:45.22 | greyscale | Schmoke And a Pancake University in Holland. |
| 20:45.26 | nander | 1 GBit per student |
| 20:45.29 | nander | 10 GBit per building |
| 20:45.30 | nander | or so |
| 20:45.31 | greyscale | With mandatory clogs and windmills. |
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| 20:45.37 | perastikos | thats a waste of bandwidth |
| 20:45.44 | nander | not everyone smokes here |
| 20:45.48 | nander | Ok, quite a few people |
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| 20:45.57 | nander | Well, I do pay 15 euros each month xD |
| 20:45.57 | greyscale | More so than most anywhere else :p |
| 20:45.58 | perastikos | hahahha |
| 20:46.21 | nander | Included, but specified on the rent agreement |
| 20:46.28 | babilen | dpkg: ot |
| 20:46.28 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 20:46.34 | nander | sorry |
| 20:47.00 | perastikos | we got off topic |
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| 20:47.17 | nander | I know and it's partly my fault |
| 20:47.29 | babilen | (and there is a wonderful channel for that) |
| 20:47.38 | perastikos | what channel? |
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| 20:47.55 | babilen | #debian-offtopic (as noted in the bot's message) |
| 20:48.05 | nander | dpkg is more helpful here than irl ;) |
| 20:48.06 | dpkg | nander: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 20:48.42 | babilen | nander: lvm is probably a good idea and you might want to consider /srv |
| 20:49.04 | nander | what? |
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| 20:50.05 | nander | what's /srv? |
| 20:50.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell nander -about fhs |
| 20:50.58 | perastikos | does lvm allow for easy partition resize? |
| 20:51.07 | babilen | It does. |
| 20:51.18 | babilen | dpkg: tell nander -about srv |
| 20:51.30 | perastikos | and snapshots? |
| 20:52.01 | babilen | AFAIK you cannot easily resize those |
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| 20:52.10 | perastikos | guys does anyone here work for gemalto? |
| 20:52.14 | babilen | (never tried, ymmv) |
| 20:52.21 | perastikos | babilen the point is to be easy |
| 20:52.32 | babilen | perastikos: Easy to do what? |
| 20:52.39 | perastikos | if they implemented it and there is risk for data loss its now easy |
| 20:52.46 | perastikos | now=not |
| 20:52.57 | perastikos | easy to resize |
| 20:53.08 | nander | Can I have two LVM's on one set of two disks? |
| 20:53.19 | perastikos | the lvm wikipedia says that you can do a resize without even rebooting |
| 20:53.20 | babilen | perastikos: I already answered that, haven't I? |
| 20:53.33 | perastikos | babilen yes you have, i am just talking to myself |
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| 20:53.44 | penrod | greetings: what is the preferred gigabit nic card these days for Debian ? I have had too many failures lateley of those @^($^(*#$%# realtek chipsets. |
| 20:55.03 | valdyn | penrod: anything intel |
| 20:55.43 | valdyn | ( cant say i had problems with any realtek though ) |
| 20:55.53 | userf | penrod: with such stickers 'Linux tested' |
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| 20:56.45 | penrod | I have always trusted the Intel, back in the day the "tulip" chipset was rock solid. Just wondering if something eles came along to take over the "tulip" cards. |
| 20:56.53 | babilen | tulip! :) |
| 20:59.14 | nander | encrypted LVM vs unencrypted? |
| 20:59.26 | nander | What's the performance loss on a machine with a pentium 3.2 GHz dual core? |
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| 21:00.08 | stew | 7 |
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| 21:00.17 | dawin | hi how do i remove virtualmin? |
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| 21:00.26 | nander | stew, thanks a lot |
| 21:00.30 | nander | Your number really helped |
| 21:00.47 | nander | I meant: how noticable is it |
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| 21:01.12 | babilen | 2 |
| 21:01.40 | perastikos | the answer is 42 |
| 21:01.43 | stew | yeah, i would say that's more of a 2 |
| 21:01.50 | dawin | anybody? |
| 21:02.21 | dawin | i just did xdpkg --install webmin_1.700_all.deb |
| 21:02.27 | dawin | dpkg --install webmin_1.700_all.deb |
| 21:02.28 | dpkg | dawin: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 21:02.32 | valdyn | dawin: not a debian package, so how would we know? |
| 21:02.37 | stew | dpkg: webmin |
| 21:02.38 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 21:02.40 | dawin | now i want to uninstall and remove this |
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| 21:03.17 | RoyK | !webmin |
| 21:03.17 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
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| 21:03.37 | dawin | valdyn: i just did dpkg --install webmin_1.700_all.deb |
| 21:03.40 | dawin | now i want to remove it |
| 21:03.42 | dawin | how to do |
| 21:03.43 | dawin | ? |
| 21:03.50 | valdyn | !tell dawin -about grounding |
| 21:04.01 | valdyn | dawin: apt-get remove webmin |
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| 21:05.45 | dawin | valdyn: thanks |
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| 21:06.20 | nander | How do I set a LVM up in nonstriping (mirrored) mode? |
| 21:06.39 | valdyn | nander: you dont, you want to use mdraid for that |
| 21:06.45 | nander | Ah, ok |
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| 21:07.20 | valdyn | nander: lvm on top of that raid then is ok |
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| 21:08.11 | babilen | dawin: You probably want to purge it (apt-get purge ...) |
| 21:08.37 | dawin | babilen: already done. thanks :) |
| 21:11.34 | nander | what filesystem for storage? |
| 21:11.44 | perastikos | ext4 |
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| 21:12.01 | nander | btrfs isn't finished yet/ |
| 21:12.02 | nander | ?* |
| 21:12.19 | valdyn | nander: its usable for some cases, its not ok for you |
| 21:12.27 | nander | oK |
| 21:12.29 | perastikos | btrfs is zfs? |
| 21:12.29 | nander | Ok* |
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| 21:12.39 | nander | I think my jolla phone used btrfs |
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| 21:12.57 | valdyn | nander: yes, that might be |
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| 21:13.38 | nander | I set up my disks in 1 TB mirrored (important data) |
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| 21:13.41 | nander | and 2TB striping |
| 21:13.45 | nander | Or is that really stupid? |
| 21:13.54 | valdyn | nander: striping is pointless |
| 21:14.00 | nander | LVM* |
| 21:14.03 | perastikos | nander i would do 1 tb mirror and 2 x 2tb independant |
| 21:14.12 | nander | 2*2TB in LVM |
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| 21:14.17 | valdyn | nander: striping is not a speedup in real world load and its increasing risk |
| 21:14.20 | nander | That's how I set it up right now |
| 21:14.26 | perastikos | 2 separate partitions of 2 tb each |
| 21:14.32 | nander | Because if one disk fails all data is lost you mean? |
| 21:14.36 | perastikos | like regular disks |
| 21:14.42 | valdyn | nander: yes |
| 21:14.52 | nander | like, not 50%, but 50% of every file |
| 21:15.10 | valdyn | nander: or every other file |
| 21:15.10 | nander | Is lvm striping or not? |
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| 21:15.18 | valdyn | nander: lvm is not striping |
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| 21:15.23 | nander | So I *could* use lvm? |
| 21:15.37 | valdyn | nander: lvm is like partitions, but better |
| 21:15.48 | nander | partitions with magic? |
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| 21:16.34 | valdyn | nander: im sure plenty people abuse lvm to do something like jbod, but thats stupid to do |
| 21:16.36 | gotmynick | LVM _can_ do striping too |
| 21:17.23 | nander | hmm, how would I want to mount my important and unimportant data partions? |
| 21:17.31 | nander | What's the 'debian way' ? |
| 21:17.47 | nander | In windows I'd create a G: and H: |
| 21:17.49 | valdyn | nander: theres no debian way, theres sensible and theres stupid setups |
| 21:17.57 | perastikos | valdyn +1 |
| 21:18.11 | nander | The arch way is 'with a lot of random breakdowns after updates' |
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| 21:18.17 | perastikos | i use /disks/disk1 |
| 21:18.25 | nander | We moved your /bin, because this way is a lot more sensible |
| 21:18.40 | nander | Never mind that your system is now unusable because bash isn't in the right path |
| 21:18.41 | valdyn | nander: if you can anticipate your actual load, then you try to spread the load across many spindles |
| 21:18.54 | nander | Actual load < disk speed ;) |
| 21:18.57 | perastikos | nander who needs bash? :) |
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| 21:19.06 | nander | You need some executables |
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| 21:21.21 | nander | More than 8 GB of swap isn't sensible, right? |
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| 21:21.32 | nander | I prepared it for an eventual memory increase |
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| 21:21.44 | dawin | Swap: 2093052 0 2093052 |
| 21:21.49 | dawin | is this good? |
| 21:22.15 | nander | I always use RAM size as swap size, is that the correct way to go? |
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| 21:23.00 | perastikos | swap = 2.5 x memory |
| 21:23.04 | perastikos | i use it that way |
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| 21:24.59 | slurpymcdurpy | You probably don't need that much. |
| 21:25.05 | userf | nander: it's easy add swap if tou need more |
| 21:25.09 | slurpymcdurpy | maybe, if you have 1GB of memory, that's prob. good. |
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| 21:25.38 | slurpymcdurpy | depends on workload too, soo. |
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| 21:26.07 | NiLon | I use 0 bytes of swap |
| 21:26.23 | dawin | NiLon: why? |
| 21:26.31 | slurpymcdurpy | I also use 0 bytes of swap. |
| 21:26.35 | NiLon | I don't see point using disk |
| 21:26.38 | slurpymcdurpy | unless I configure zramswap . . . |
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| 21:28.21 | NiLon | and I have 16 GB of ram in system so I don't really end up in scenario where I need swap |
| 21:28.26 | NiLon | so it's rather pointless to have one |
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| 21:28.57 | dawin | Mem: total 1033344 used 107324 free 926020 |
| 21:28.59 | dawin | :) |
| 21:28.59 | perastikos | you should always have a swap, even a small one |
| 21:29.43 | dawin | Swap: total 2093052 used 0 free 2093052 |
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| 21:30.02 | Justin417 | I read somewhere that you should have as much SWAP as you do RAM.... does that sound right? Seems like a bit much. |
| 21:30.16 | MrAlexandro | do you need a swap partition in virtual machines? i am shrinking disks on my machines and was hoping i could perhaps drop it |
| 21:30.20 | dawin | Justin417: look mine |
| 21:30.24 | perastikos | i dont think 8 gbs on a 2 TB disk is too much |
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| 21:31.06 | NiLon | perastikos why? |
| 21:31.16 | fragtastic | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Suspend_and_hibernate |
| 21:31.28 | fragtastic | might answer some questions about the swap need |
| 21:31.43 | NiLon | Justin417 that rule is from the time of early computers.. doesn't apply today |
| 21:32.01 | NiLon | in fact that rule is rather obsolete |
| 21:32.02 | Justin417 | Ah ok |
| 21:32.23 | Justin417 | Thanks |
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| 21:32.34 | yates | does the 3.8.13-bone64 attempt to use mmc1 even when the system (a BeagleBone Black rev. c) is booted from the external microSD (which is mmc0)? |
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| 21:32.46 | yates | i'm trying to troubleshoot this: http://www.digitalsignallabs.com/debian-problem-20140915170313.htm |
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| 21:33.23 | NiLon | fragtastic fair enough, but I don't use suspend nor hibernate |
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| 21:34.56 | NiLon | Justin417 or I might recall my statement there a bit, I just understood that people actuallu might use suspend feature that requires you to have as much of swap that you have ram to 100% store it |
| 21:35.14 | nander | Lol, I think debian just installed grub on my usb stick instead of my first partition |
| 21:35.37 | fragtastic | one can suspend/hibernate without swap as well |
| 21:35.46 | peterrooney | NiLon: then what rule applies now? |
| 21:36.18 | NiLon | peterrooney "if you don't know what you are doing, follow the manual" |
| 21:36.22 | MrAlexandro | fragtastic but by using ram then right? |
| 21:36.34 | nander | How do I manually install grub? |
| 21:36.35 | fragtastic | MrAlexandro, you can't hibernate to ram |
| 21:36.47 | fragtastic | and suspend doesn't use swap |
| 21:36.48 | MrAlexandro | no suspend |
| 21:36.53 | MrAlexandro | ok |
| 21:37.56 | nander | lol, now if I want to boot my PC I need this USB stick.. |
| 21:38.15 | jhutchins | MrAlexandro: There's suspend-to-ram and suspend-to-disk. |
| 21:38.49 | jhutchins | MrAlexandro: iirc at one point your /swap needed to be => your ram for suspend-to-disk, not sure if that's still true. |
| 21:38.54 | MrAlexandro | nander rescatux |
| 21:39.13 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 21:39.13 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
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| 21:39.59 | MrAlexandro | jhutchins i know theres a suspend to ram, but i was curious how fragtastic could hibernate/suspend not using swap and not using ram |
| 21:40.01 | jhutchins | nander: If you can boot the actual system you can skip the chroot. Might want to remove the USB before you do grub-install though. |
| 21:40.23 | jhutchins | MrAlexandro: Using some other location on the disk. |
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| 21:40.33 | fragtastic | MrAlexandro, IIRC it uses a file rather than partition |
| 21:40.42 | MrAlexandro | fragtastic nice |
| 21:40.51 | MrAlexandro | that i did not know :D |
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| 21:41.07 | jhutchins | That's probably configurable. |
| 21:41.10 | fragtastic | personally i haven't had a swap partition for years |
| 21:41.58 | MrAlexandro | fragtastic but i could probably remove the swap parittion from all my vm's saving about 30gb. i even think vmware has a suspend to host disk feature |
| 21:42.09 | NiLon | it's rather common to have swap file instead of swap partition, but I'm interested if you need to register that suspend file as swap file |
| 21:42.46 | fragtastic | https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition |
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| 21:43.36 | NiLon | "Now stop the kernel from using the swap file for swapping:" that is the key point there |
| 21:43.51 | NiLon | ok, then my statement is valid afterall ;D |
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| 21:46.24 | MrAlexandro | fragtastic nice!! i will remove swap partition and do that |
| 21:46.25 | MrAlexandro | thanks |
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| 22:02.24 | MrAlexandro | fragtastic: do you know how often those HAL files are updatet. is it with each new release of for instance debian or is it rare? |
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| 22:13.29 | NetEcho | I seem to be having some hangs at boot time causing it to take 5 - 10 minutes to boot and X doesn't even start |
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| 22:19.40 | somiaj | nutron: look at the output of wodim -scanbus (I belive that is the command) make sure you have pointing it at the right device? |
| 22:20.40 | nutron | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/121070/ |
| 22:21.01 | nutron | I've googled a bunch |
| 22:21.06 | nutron | ... still no love. |
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| 22:24.01 | somiaj | nutron: line 2 seems strange, 'wodim: no such file or directory' that is usually what happens if you type in a bad command, but then it runs. Also seems to not handel the -scanbus flag though it says it should |
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| 22:24.29 | somiaj | oh I see, wodim is looking for some file, maybe in /dev and it can't find it. That is probabaly what it is complaining about, lets try to figure out what file this is |
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| 22:25.29 | somiaj | nutron: what is the output of 'wodim -vvv -scanbus' |
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| 22:28.28 | nutron | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/121073/ |
| 22:28.51 | nutron | Yeah I thought the same thing as you. I have 3 drives, one usb, two sata. |
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| 22:29.51 | somiaj | nutron: do you get teh same output with 'wodim --devices' |
| 22:30.19 | nutron | somiaj: indeed I do |
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| 22:30.24 | nutron | want me to paste? |
| 22:31.02 | somiaj | sure, maybe the -scanbus option isn't being reconiginzed |
| 22:31.11 | somiaj | oh wait, you do get the same output...hmm |
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| 22:32.09 | nutron | I've tried modprobe'ing modules blindly, not sure which affect access via the scsi driver... |
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| 22:32.40 | somiaj | well libata should register the drives as scsi |
| 22:33.27 | somiaj | nutron: to me it is the wodim: no such file or directory that is probabaly the main error. It is trying to open up some file, but I don't know which. |
| 22:33.47 | nutron | hmm strace might tell me |
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| 22:38.54 | cafuego | for a cd/dvd writer, you need the 'sg' module (scsi generic) |
| 22:39.31 | cafuego | at least you did back in 2003 when i last wrote a cd ;-) |
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| 22:49.02 | nutron | hah |
| 22:49.09 | nutron | here's something interesting... |
| 22:49.53 | nutron | http://paste.debian.net/121074/ |
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| 22:51.35 | somiaj | nutron: were you running the other commands as root too? |
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| 22:57.24 | Justin417 | Aw crap that hard drive finally died.... :( |
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| 22:58.32 | thoonai | heyho |
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| 22:58.33 | somiaj | nutron: I wonder if it could be something as silly as it was looking for /dev/cdrom link as default, do you have that link or maybe /dev/cdrw |
| 22:58.40 | thoonai | I hope I'm right here: I want to set up an debian ldap-server to manage the users on the ubuntu workstations |
| 22:58.47 | somiaj | nutron: I have both links pointing at /dev/sr0 |
| 22:59.14 | thoonai | I need some easy tutorial just for the user log in stuff |
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| 23:05.09 | jhutchins | thoonai: Are you running debian or ubuntu on the server? |
| 23:05.44 | thoonai | jhutchins: debian on the server due to stability and security and ubuntu on the workstations due to the multimedia stuff |
| 23:06.12 | jhutchins | thoonai: Multimedia is pretty well handled by debian these days, but anyway. |
| 23:06.14 | jhutchins | !ldap |
| 23:06.14 | dpkg | Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) is a client/server protocol for accessing a directory service. Ask me about <openldap>. http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Ldap #ldap on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 23:07.46 | thoonai | jhutchins: no clue, should I take Debian for the workstations? |
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| 23:09.08 | jhutchins | thoonai: Up to you. |
| 23:09.28 | jhutchins | thoonai: Those links should be a good start. |
| 23:09.44 | jhutchins | thoonai: I'm probably going to be setting that up within a year. |
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| 23:09.54 | jhutchins | thoonai: Migrating an old NIS system. |
| 23:10.34 | jhutchins | thoonai: I want to avoid it as long as possible because someone's going to ask "why are you running your own ldap server instead of just using Active Directory?" |
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| 23:11.00 | nutron | wow sorry, got pulled away from my desk |
| 23:11.12 | thoonai | jhutchins: I start a new environment ^^ so I thought, I just could take the actual stuff ^^ |
| 23:11.15 | nutron | somiaj: yes as root |
| 23:11.37 | jhutchins | nutron: How old is the drive? |
| 23:12.10 | nutron | somiaj: mine is the same .. both links pointing to sr0 |
| 23:12.43 | nutron | jhutchins: the drives are no more than say 2 or 3 years old. |
| 23:12.46 | somiaj | nutron: well do you have a link /dev/cdrw? I don't know why -scanbus is not working, but I think you can just do wodim dev=/dev/cdrw, it is just rare I burn a cd anymore with having usb thumb drives. |
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| 23:13.11 | nutron | yeah, i'm backing up my dvd collection... wanted to script it |
| 23:13.14 | jhutchins | nutron: That's plenty old enough for a PC burner to fail. |
| 23:13.25 | nutron | jhutchins: all 3 of them? |
| 23:13.41 | jhutchins | nutron: If true for one, true for any. |
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| 23:14.11 | jhutchins | nutron: Have you tried something like brassero or k3b just to test it? |
| 23:14.14 | nutron | indeed, glass half empty kinda guy =)... |
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| 23:14.40 | nutron | jhutchins: no, not yet, but I'll install both for fun... then have a good time removing gnome and kde afterwards =) |
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| 23:15.23 | jhutchins | nutron: Yeah, well, some people might have already had one or the other. |
| 23:15.40 | jhutchins | nutron: There have to be a bunch of diagnostic procedures and programs out there. |
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| 23:16.06 | jhutchins | nutron: I just haven't used one in a while either. My burner does die after ripping 2-3 CDs. |
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| 23:16.20 | jhutchins | nutron: They're just cheap hardware with lots of moving parts to fail. |
| 23:16.27 | nutron | Minimalist here... fluxbox is my main environment and i've always used wodim ... well last time I used it wasn't more than say 3 months ago. In the interim I started tracking jessie because of steam.... |
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| 23:17.09 | jhutchins | nutron: http://www.cdrfaq.org/ <- everything there is to know. |
| 23:17.32 | nutron | jhutchins: I hear ya, I do have a stack of them at the lab in case these ones died.... though here's the thing... I'm ripping my dvd collection... these drives have zero issue pulling off the data with dd or dvd-backup to an iso... |
| 23:17.56 | somiaj | nutron: you are fully upgraded to jessie, and aren't mixing packages. |
| 23:18.13 | somiaj | nutron: I still don't like the fact that there is some file wodim needs and can't find, I would really like to know what file it is looking for. |
| 23:18.40 | nutron | they check out with md5sum as well... it's just the burning... wodim even accesses the drives fine with -prcap |
| 23:18.53 | jhutchins | nutron: You might find more familiarity in #debian-next on oftc.net. This does sound like just the kind of problem testing tends to have. |
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| 23:19.20 | somiaj | nutron: but you last paste seems to suggest it can see the drives just fine it just can't scan the bus, maybe just point it at the correct /dev/sr? device. |
| 23:19.49 | nutron | jhutchins: ahh indeed, though my chances of finding anyone with any familiarity with optical media these days are probably even more limited there... |
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| 23:21.09 | nutron | somiaj: indeed I have tried that as well, dev=/dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd etc... have tried all that out of desperation. Google does find others with this issue, but I have not found a single resolution to it or what it could be. In fact another debian user posted to the debian forums with this exact issue... never resolved. |
| 23:21.21 | nutron | I should jut hit it with strace like I said I would... |
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| 23:24.11 | nutron | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/121076/ |
| 23:24.42 | nutron | looks like ... well the way I interpret it is that it's trying to open any device under /dev/scd* .... of which I have none... |
| 23:25.45 | somiaj | well one thing I noticd is wodim has not been updated since squeeze (same version except for some minor debian revsion) along with that I see a few unanswered bug reports getting similar outputs |
| 23:25.49 | somiaj | ,v wodim |
| 23:25.50 | judd | Package: wodim on i386 -- squeeze: 9:1.1.11-1; wheezy: 9:1.1.11-2; jessie: 9:1.1.11-3; sid: 9:1.1.11-3 |
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| 23:26.17 | nutron | somiaj: indeed ... yeah |
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| 23:29.47 | nutron | somiaj: ... uhhh... it started working... |
| 23:29.48 | nutron | wtf |
| 23:30.07 | somiaj | nutron: also seems the cdrkit websight has been hijacked/infected, but either way guess no one burns cds anymore. Fairly sure cd technology hasn't changed to much since this fork was made in 2006 but seems it has seen little love since then |
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| 23:30.29 | nutron | i modprobed sr_mod and scsi_mod.... now it works... |
| 23:30.49 | nutron | I'm gonna reboot it and work through the steps to identify where it's broken. |
| 23:31.47 | Achylles | how do I fix this "Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1" when I am root and want to open a gui appl. I have searched the web, but answers do not help |
| 23:31.51 | nutron | once it's done burning the dvd of course... |
| 23:32.55 | nutron | somiaj, jhutchins thanks for the handholding... without it I wouldn't have got it to work. |
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| 23:33.13 | thoonai | jhutchins: I'll take Ubuntu for the Workstations, its the most used system by our users |
| 23:33.14 | nutron | Seems someone needs to save the cdr* tool suite from bitrot. |
| 23:33.25 | somiaj | Achylles: run the gui app with sudo and not as root |
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| 23:33.47 | somiaj | Achylles: this way it uses the magic cookie, enviroment of the user running X and doesn't try to use roots info which there is no for X |
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| 23:33.50 | Achylles | somiaj, it used to work |
| 23:34.07 | Achylles | And I am using sudo as well |
| 23:34.16 | Achylles | both do not work |
| 23:34.41 | somiaj | Achylles: are you running it from a xterm opened from inside your xsession? (you haven't say rerun login(1) as your user)? |
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| 23:36.06 | Achylles | sudo gvim -> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyE233: |
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| 23:36.38 | Achylles | somiaj, xterm gives me the same error |
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| 23:37.00 | Achylles | I am not able to open xterm or whatever |
| 23:37.02 | thoonai | do I can use ldap and kerberos without setting up a local dns-server? |
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| 23:39.10 | NetEcho | jessie uses unity? |
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| 23:39.33 | somiaj | Achylles: well the magic cookie is stored in ~/.Xauthority -- the suggestions I see on google is delete that file. But you may want to stop X and then delete that file, then restart X so it generates a new cookie |
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| 23:40.14 | somiaj | NetEcho: no, jessie can use many DE's, not sure if unity has been ported to debian. But I think the default is gonna be xfce, you can use gnome3, kde, lxde, xfce4, or many other WMs of your choice |
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| 23:40.36 | NetEcho | somiaj I'm on jessie now and it has some Unity style bs DE |
| 23:40.43 | NetEcho | it's annoying the crap out of me |
| 23:40.53 | somiaj | are you talking about gnome-shell? That is part of gnome3. |
| 23:41.08 | NetEcho | with that side bar crap and lack of usable menu's? |
| 23:41.19 | NetEcho | it's god a Windows 8 like feel that is nasty |
| 23:41.21 | Achylles | somiaj, I already used this technique. It goes like that -> issue xauth command to remake .Xauthority -> it really remakes the file, but do not work as well |
| 23:42.11 | somiaj | NetEcho: well my suggestion is install another desktop that you like. I think you are just seeing gnome-shell in the newer gnome releases |
| 23:42.11 | NetEcho | got* |
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| 23:42.45 | NetEcho | somiaj I think you're right |
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| 23:44.07 | somiaj | NetEcho: many like xfce4 as an alternative. Mate might be in jessie, but I wouldn't suggest it. To big of a project for a small fork to handel. cinimon desktop is another people wanting to get away from gnome3 are using. I think some of it is in jessie, but not all yet. |
| 23:44.21 | Achylles | But, if I copy my .Xauthority from my user home '~" to my /root it works. But it works only while working in that session. If I close the terminal and open it again and become root it does not work any more :( |
| 23:44.25 | somiaj | my suggestion is a windowmanager, but I'm in the days of the past. |
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| 23:46.06 | somiaj | Achylles: Something odd is going on and I can't think of what you are doing to change your enviroment such that you have to do this extra work with the magic cookie. :/ |
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| 23:47.16 | Achylles | somiaj, Yes. I know that something strange is happening I have tried to fix this issue for some time now. |
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| 23:47.41 | somiaj | Achylles: how do you run xorg? What desktop/wm do you use? |
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| 23:48.01 | Achylles | wdm |
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| 23:48.56 | Achylles | I am running Xfce4 and login to it using wdm |
| 23:48.58 | somiaj | Achylles: maybe try to disable wdm and run x from the cli, 'startx'. wdm I belive hasn't been updated in sometime, maybe it is the cause of the issue. This is just worth testing to try to figure that out. Or try another dm |
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| 23:49.12 | somiaj | ,v wdm |
| 23:49.13 | judd | Package: wdm on i386 -- wheezy: 1.28-13+deb7u1; jessie: 1.28-17; sid: 1.28-17 |
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| 23:50.37 | Achylles | somiaj, I will see then... |
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| 23:51.05 | somiaj | hmm strange, the last time I tried wdm squeeze was still testing. Wonder what happened to remove wdm and then put it back in, I dn't see much histroy pre 2010 on wdm on teh qa page, but do realize this was an old dm |
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| 23:52.41 | thoonai_ | got some connection problems it seemed |
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| 23:52.49 | somiaj | yea wdm 1.28 was released in 2005 and was only a bug fix release. |
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| 23:53.16 | thoonai | so again my stupid question: do I need dns for kerberos? |
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